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She Keeps A LIST Of The Men She Sleeps With (100+)?! | Dating Talk #114

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	Sorry, we're starting a little late, guys.
	I'm tilted as fuck.
	Bunch of flakes today.
	It's just typical shit.
	Okay.
	So without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	Please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Hello, my name is McKenna Seegers.
	I'm 21, and I do OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm Haley Jackson.
	I'm going to opt out of the age one.
	I have a reason for that.
	Why?
	Are you over 18?
	Yes.
	Why?
	I'll show you Mighty.
	Why are you opting out of the age one?
	Two years ago, I had a subscriber on OnlyFans find my address because he did the math on my birthday and he had my full birthday and he had my full name and he was stalking me and had photos of my car.
	So it was like a really weird situation.
	So now I just decided not to share that on social media.
	I mean it's not clear to me if like someone being able to determine your birth date when it comes to the year you were born could lead anybody to have my full name and my date of birth.
	Like my actual date of birth.
	But your age would only indicate your birth year.
	Yeah, true.
	So I'm not that you don't need to tell us your.
	I just wonder if people would like see on my social media that my birthday.
	Can you give us an age range?
	26.
	I'm 26.
	Okay, what about you?
	Hi, my name is Sage and I'm 25.
	I work in finance.
	All right, welcome.
	I'm Jamie.
	I'm 31 and I work in the dog grooming industry.
	Hi, my name is Kiara and I'm 23 years old and I do OnlyFans.
	I'm Audi, aka Audi's Drip.
	I'm 22 years old and I'm an artist.
	I'm Mick and I'm 27 and I work in the music industry.
	I'm Madison.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College studying at business.
	I work for the whatever podcast.
	I'm a host at a bar.
	And yeah.
	All right, we're going to go around the table once more.
	What's your current relationship status?
	Are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult?
	How long have you been single if you're single?
	Longest relationship?
	Go ahead.
	I'm single currently, and I've been single for my whole life.
	Single, currently, single for your whole life.
	What's the longest period of time that you've dated somebody?
	I've never dated anybody.
	What's the longest period of time you've seen somebody?
	I've been in like situationship.
	I was in a situation ship for like a year.
	Okay, so your longest situationship was a year?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But single your whole life?
	Yes.
	Longest situationship one year.
	Was it on again, off again?
	Or was it a long time ago?
	Were you guys monogamous?
	No.
	Was it open on his end or your end or both?
	It was both ends.
	We were both like seeing other people.
	You were seeing other people at the same time?
	Yeah.
	How many people are you currently seeing?
	One.
	Is it the current situationship?
	Yeah, it is.
	You've been seeing somebody for one year, so you're single.
	Well, it was a year.
	Sorry to interrupt, but it was a year, and then we stopped seeing each other for a year.
	And now it's back on.
	Yeah.
	Oh, so it is on, again, off again.
	Yes, definitely.
	Okay.
	You're not really single, are you?
	I mean, you're currently sleeping with somebody.
	Well, I'll sleep with other people.
	Huh?
	I'll sleep with other people for sure.
	But you're just seeing him right now.
	Yeah, I'm not interested in anybody else to see or have sex with, I guess.
	Okay.
	In your first round of the situationship, you said you were seeing other people.
	Like, what was the most amount of people that you were seeing at any one given time?
	So I used to do professional fashion modeling, and I went to Milan.
	And when I was there, I probably saw, I saw a lot of guys.
	I can't even recognize that.
	Can you give us a range of range?
	Why not?
	Maybe like, so I was there for like two months, and I think I there was like probably two every week.
	Two every week?
	Yeah, two guys.
	Two new guys every week.
	Two new guys every week.
	Yes.
	In the rotation.
	Yes, in the rotation.
	And then I went back, came back to California.
	Wait, so let's do the math here.
	Two.
	You were there for two months, two every week, four weeks in a month.
	Not bad.
	16?
	Yes.
	Around there.
	More than 16.
	There's more than 10.
	Yeah, I mean, okay.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Maybe.
	Do you have a total number?
	Do you keep a diary?
	Who keeps a diary?
	I've kept it.
	I've kept a list, but now I just, I like lost.
	You lost the list?
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I didn't lose it.
	It's in your notes.
	It's on your phone.
	It is on my phone.
	It is.
	Wait, who else here has a list of all the guys?
	Everybody.
	No.
	But I stopped putting names on the list at a certain point because I would forget to.
	Can we see the list?
	You want to see the list?
	Some of them are like empty spaces because there was one that I just didn't know his name.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So I just made a little space.
	You should call them John Doe.
	I should.
	That is my John Doe's.
	Can we actually go through the list?
	You want to go through it?
	Can we go through the list?
	Let's do it.
	Fuck it.
	Let's go through the list.
	Okay.
	Is the list caught up?
	No.
	It's outdated.
	It's okay.
	That's sufficient.
	Outdated list is sufficient.
	Let's see.
	Okay, so while you're pulling that up, you were in Italy.
	You were in Milan Getting your date on in Italy.
	Was this while you were on with the situation ship or were you off at this point?
	We were on, but it was never like a it wasn't like we never had that like talk to be exclusive or anything, so that's why like we would just kind of do whatever we wanted.
	We got a squeaker chair, by the way.
	I don't know if you guys, can we do something about that?
	Which one is it?
	I don't know.
	Who's got the squeaker?
	Is it yours?
	Uh, just get a get a big proper chair and we'll we'll swap it out.
	Uh, yeah, that's definitely a squeaker.
	That's gonna trigger me all night.
	Okay.
	Um, what's the list?
	How's the list looking?
	Let's it's not even, it's not even that bad.
	You guys are not that bad.
	No, I just kind of scrolling, the scrolling.
	Yeah, the scrolling, the scrolling.
	Sorry.
	I also would put, okay, so last time I updated it was April 8th because I used to put the last day that I would have sex.
	Do you sleep with girls and guys?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, so that kind of makes it a little better.
	A little better.
	A little bigger, a little better?
	Bigger.
	Bigger list.
	Yeah?
	No?
	Well, so what's on the list?
	Can you, can you, before telling us what the list is, is it like name?
	It's names, and then it's also empty spaces and like usernames.
	But is it just names?
	Or do you put like the details?
	Like, is it a spreadsheet?
	Is there a spreadsheet where there's like pen size?
	No, no, no, no.
	I wish I did that.
	I should have done it.
	I used to, when I was in high school, I used to rank guys.
	I would have like five guys that I'd be like talking to, and I'd be like, oh, well, he talked to me today, so I'm going to put him at number one.
	You'd rank them.
	I would rank them.
	This is during high school.
	Yes, high school.
	You'd rank them during high school.
	Yes.
	And you said it was up to five.
	Was there more than five at any point?
	It was just five.
	Five.
	That was the extent of the roster in high school.
	Yeah.
	And were any of them, they were all high school boys or some of them like college boys?
	I started getting into college guys when I was like a sophomore.
	Yeah, still high school.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We need to boost the audio.
	Nick, if you can.
	Yep.
	So, okay, what does the list say?
	What's your list say?
	Just read it.
	Just read.
	You want me to name the names?
	Was it full names?
	I don't know if we're going to be able to do it.
	No, it's not full names, but it's first names.
	Okay, I guess that's cool.
	Can you say the title of it, too?
	List of bodies.
	That's in the notes.
	That's in my notes.
	Yes.
	That's all.
	Okay, appreciate the honesty.
	See, a lot of people have what you have, but they wouldn't have the courage.
	Oh, I don't have to.
	And the 40s.
	Because I know every girl has one.
	I talk to every girl.
	They're like, yeah.
	Or like, they don't even have one.
	I've never kept one.
	I can count in my head.
	Stop the cow.
	It's a brain list you have.
	Yeah.
	I don't lose track.
	Go ahead.
	Tell us.
	And wait, is this the Italy list?
	Oh, you want me to start?
	I'll start in Italy, yeah, because I don't want to start in high school.
	No, no, no, no.
	Let's start.
	Let's go.
	In high school?
	Fuck it.
	Let's do it.
	Okay.
	You're starting at the beginning of the list.
	Okay.
	And I'm naming the names.
	Sure, why not?
	Okay, first one was Guillermo.
	Shut the fuck up.
	No way.
	Yeah, yes, yes.
	Guillermo.
	Are you trying?
	Because I feel like that's the best.
	You know what's even more embarrassing?
	I literally am so embarrassed to say this.
	He was literally, he's a SoundCloud rapper, and it's still.
	Soundcloud.
	That might be enough to IDM.
	Chat, get on it.
	Get on it.
	No, Don't idea.
	Is that his SoundCloud room?
	No, no, no, no.
	That's not his name.
	Guillermo.
	Because Guillermo seems like a troll name.
	You could have said Bartholomew or some shit would be more believable than Guillermo.
	Wait, you lost your virginity to a Guillermo.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	No, for the backseat of a car, too.
	No offense to Guillermo's out there, but.
	Yeah, he's an awful guy, too.
	I'm not sure.
	Okay, so continue.
	Okay, I have Sammy.
	Is that a woman?
	That is a guy.
	I have Xavier.
	I have Jeremiah.
	I have Namir.
	I have Jet.
	Very unique names.
	Like, where's the John?
	Is there a John anywhere?
	Is there like a Benjamin?
	There's a Ben.
	I have a couple Ben.
	Are these all you're 21, right?
	Are you Gen Z?
	That makes you Gen Z. Does it just like Gen Z Zoomers just have like crazy ass names?
	I have no idea.
	Who names Gen Z?
	Are those, is that Gen X?
	Are your parents Gen X?
	no idea my dad my dad was born in when was he born 72?
	I think that makes him Gen X, right?
	The fuck, Gen X just be naming their kids some crazy shit.
	Okay.
	So, sorry, continue.
	continuum.
	I kind of want to get to the start from the beginning again and we'll just I won't interrupt.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, start from the beginning.
	You're going to repeat.
	Blast.
	Blast the names.
	Okay, Guillermo, Sammy, Xavier, Jeremiah, Namir, Jet, Peso, Roman, Jack, Bradley, Lucas, Sierra, Colby.
	I don't know how else.
	How would you pronounce that?
	Asking the wrong girl.
	Julio, he was from Italy.
	He doesn't tell any name.
	Ricardo, Ayrton, Lorenzo, another Ricardo.
	There's a lot of Ricardos in Italy.
	Okay.
	Dirk.
	Dirk.
	Olivier.
	Oliver?
	Olivier?
	I don't know.
	It's a very unique name.
	It's unique.
	They're from Amsterdam.
	yeah i feel like all their names would be kind of weird now no in italy but like keep going No!
	Keep going.
	Just keep going.
	Okay.
	Mikey.
	There you go.
	Seby, Ben, Sephir, Ben, Eddie, Cindy, Tim, Jason, Omar, Sam, Enrique, Nick, Daniel, Brandon, Eric, Tony.
	I have one.
	I think it's a username.
	It's Beach Life.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Brock, Yohen, Louie, Sana, Santa.
	Tyler, Andy, Johnny, Thomas, Emily, Steve, Brandon, Franco, Monty, and then Firefighter.
	I don't think I've got anything.
	Was anybody counting anything?
	I think I counted 51.
	That was impressive.
	You can tell right when it comes back to the States, though.
	Yes, yeah, you can tell when you're like, okay, these are like some American names.
	That was beautiful.
	That was like poetic.
	I know.
	I was like saying that.
	Okay, so you've got the list.
	And that's good.
	That was good.
	I mean, I don't.
	I haven't updated it.
	Was that a woman?
	I think that was a guy, actually.
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	His name is Cindy.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Huh.
	I know, interesting.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Okay, so who's the situation ship?
	Is that Lorenzo?
	That's Jack.
	Jack.
	Okay.
	Normal name, normal name.
	There we go.
	We're getting somewhere.
	We're getting somewhere.
	At least this longer term thing you have going on.
	His name's got a normal-ish name.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so.
	But you're not currently seeing anybody else right now.
	Or your options are open, you think?
	No, I do have a guy that I am supposed to film with.
	I actually got rid of the old guy that I used to film with for like OnlyFans.
	You got rid of him?
	Yes.
	First of all, he caught feelings for me, and he was just being really weird.
	Yeah, catching feelings.
	I don't do that at all.
	Like, once a guy catches feelings for me.
	Catching feelings.
	Yeah, I don't do that.
	Happens.
	Scares me.
	Doesn't happen to you?
	What do you mean?
	What happens?
	Like, you don't catch feelings for the people you sleep with?
	I've cotton feelings before, but like, not like super hard where I go fucking crazy over a person.
	So.
	Okay.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Well, first off, thank you for sharing that because I feel like most people would be maybe a little hesitant, but I very much applaud your openness.
	Thank you.
	And cool.
	What about you?
	So I'm in a relationship, like a six-month relationship.
	My longest was like two years, I think.
	And then what was the other question?
	I think that was it.
	So the longest relationship, two years.
	You've been in a relationship for six months.
	Is that your six-month relationship?
	Okay.
	Well, I'll come back to that.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was eight years off and on.
	Longest was eight years off and on.
	How many times was it off and on?
	How many breakups were there, I guess?
	Honestly, I don't quite remember.
	We met in high school.
	He'd disappear like after I honestly, I can't say we'd.
	I genuinely don't know how long the periods were.
	Usually around a year.
	And then we'd get back together, but we're completely off now.
	When's the last time that you were seeing this guy?
	2021.
	20.
	Okay.
	But so how many, you don't recall like how many breakups there were?
	Is it more than 10?
	No, not more than 10.
	Okay.
	And I was close with his family too.
	So even when we were off, I was still really close with his family.
	Okay.
	So how long have you been single?
	Two years.
	Six times.
	Okay, two years.
	So has there been no guys in that two-year period?
	No, I've gone on.
	Situationship.
	Kind of situationship.
	Sort of.
	Kind of my second longest relationship, five years, off and on.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So I'm currently single.
	My last relationship was a relationship turned situationship, and the situationship part of it lasted about two years.
	It lasted two years.
	Yeah.
	So the whole thing was like three years total.
	And then my longest relationship was six years with Baby Daddy.
	Six years?
	Oh, you have a kid?
	I do.
	Two.
	Two kids from the same guy.
	Were you married?
	It was not.
	You're not married.
	Did you, how long ago was that?
	2020 was the end.
	Was the end?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	And when, wait, when was the two-year-old you said the one-year relationship, two-year situationship?
	Is that right?
	So it was pretty much right after that.
	So like 2021 till very recently.
	Wait, how soon after breaking up with Baby Daddy did you get into this three-year thing?
	Maybe like three, four months.
	Okay.
	Is he a rebound, kind of?
	No, it was.
	The relationship with Baby Daddy was over a long time before it actually ended.
	So no, I wouldn't consider it that.
	Okay.
	You weren't married to.
	No.
	Okay.
	So one year, how did it go from a, was it a monogamous relationship?
	Baby Daddy or something?
	No, no, no, the other one.
	Yes, yes.
	So it was monogamous, but then it turned into a two-year situationship.
	How did how to do that?
	Yeah, so we lived together and then we got in a fight on vacation.
	He moved out and then ever since then it's just been kind of like touch and go.
	We haven't been able to kind of get it together.
	So.
	Can I ask a question?
	Go ahead.
	What's the difference between a relationship and a situationship?
	Are you asking me?
	Yeah.
	So in my opinion, I guess it depends on your agreement with that other person.
	So when you have those, you know, relationships where it's like, oh, we're not, we don't have a title.
	We don't have a, you know, a group that we put ourselves in, but we're still sleeping together and we're still like remaining monogamous, I would consider that a situationship.
	So still seeing each other, but like technically you can go out on dates, but you're not really supposed to type thing.
	I'm just wondering, like, who initiated going from a monogamous relationship into a situationship?
	Hold on one.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $100.
	Red doesn't catch feelings, but she likely catches pretty much everything else.
	Going to need some extra strength bleach on that chair.
	I always wondered what daddy issues actually looked like.
	Now we all know.
	Do you have a response to grid one?
	It's actually mommy and daddy issues that does it.
	Looks pretty good to me.
	Double trouble.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Go ahead.
	So I'm in a situationship with two guys.
	You're in a situationship with two guys.
	Do they know about each other?
	Yeah, they do.
	They know about it?
	Yeah, because I don't like doing that.
	You like doing what?
	Being monogamous?
	No, I just would like to be honest about who I'm seeing.
	Oh, okay, I see.
	How long have you been seeing both of them?
	So one of them is my ex, and I've been with him, or I was with him when I was 18, and then we broke up, stopped talking for a few years, and then we recently, like last year, two years, started talking again.
	And then the other guy, he's a pilot.
	I just recently started talking to him.
	But I think I'm going to end that one soon.
	How long have you been talking to the pilot?
	About two to three months.
	Two to three months.
	Okay.
	He got a girlfriend.
	He has a girlfriend.
	And then what about your other, the ex-guy?
	He's also seeing other women?
	Yeah, he has.
	Well, he has a girlfriend.
	They both have girlfriends.
	Do the girlfriends know?
	Yeah, do the girlfriends know?
	It's a very complicated situation.
	So you're sleeping with both of them?
	Yeah, the pilot when he lands over here in Los Angeles, but he lives over there in Salvador.
	Is he drugged?
	No, he's a pilot.
	Yeah, like for drugs?
	No, just to like go out.
	So is this an ideal situation?
	Do you like the current situation you're in dating two men who have girlfriends?
	No, not really.
	Don't you feel, I mean, they're aware that you're dating other people, but don't you have any qualms with the fact that they're not being honest with their girlfriends?
	That's on them.
	Yeah, but don't you feel complicit to some degree in engaging in sexual relationships with men who have girlfriends?
	I did feel bad, but they're gonna do it at the end of the day.
	They're gonna fuck, so you might as well be the one they fucked.
	I would rat them out if I were you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, just me.
	Okay.
	So are you seeing any other guys too?
	Or just these two?
	Yeah, just them.
	I don't like a one-night stand.
	I like something more.
	What is that?
	What is it?
	I don't know, I just...
	You want something more?
	Yeah, more.
	With two men who are in supposed committed relationships with other women?
	Two is better than one, no?
	I'm just kidding.
	No, but like, what is it more that you want?
	Do you want a long-term monogamous relationship?
	I did, but I mean, I'm not going to get it out of them, so I'm kind of just.
	So why pursue them if you can't get it out of them, if that's what you want?
	I don't like fucking new people.
	You don't like fucking new people?
	No, not really.
	So is it like you don't want to add a body?
	What's it called?
	Recycling?
	Is that the term?
	Yes.
	When you recycle a body?
	So, but what are you looking for?
	Are you looking for something right now?
	Yeah, whenever it comes.
	But I know I'm not going to get it from them.
	Okay.
	So how often do you see them, would you say?
	The two guys that you're dating?
	My ex, every week, sometimes twice a week.
	And then the pilot whenever he comes.
	So he usually comes to LA like three times a month.
	Are you open to like maybe introducing a married man to your maybe add a married guy to the rotation?
	What do you think about that?
	No.
	No?
	No married men?
	Would you?
	No?
	Would you feel more guilty about involving a married man, getting involved with a married man?
	Kind of like homewrecker type status, or you have dated the married man.
	No.
	Okay.
	Has anybody here dated somebody who's married or slept with somebody who's married?
	Who was not your husband?
	She's smiling.
	No.
	In a relationship but not married.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	Sam.
	Someone who's been in a relief.
	Someone who is in a relationship but not someone who's been married.
	Okay.
	So you're looking for something serious, but you're currently, don't you think sleeping with two men who have girlfriends who are, you yourself have assessed that they're not good long-term partners, don't you think it might be holding you back from finding somebody who would be good for a long-term relationship if you're currently spending time with these men?
	but you know.
	Yeah, I mean I go out by myself with my friends, you know, so I mean whoever comes to me like yeah so I think I don't think it's wasting time.
	It's like a good moment, you know?
	What's a good moment?
	You said you weren't really like happy, so like what why haven't you gotten out of that situation?
	Because I don't know, it's like I guess comfort to come.
	It's kind of a good moment on behalf of somebody else's pain.
	It's kind of crappy.
	Well, I think the person who has the ultimate accountability here is the two men for cheating on their girlfriends, but I mean, there's some culpability for you because you're knowingly doing it.
	Yeah.
	Like I had somebody cheat on their girlfriend with me and I didn't know, but that shit hurts somebody else.
	Did you rat them out?
	Yeah, as soon as I found out, I'm actually good friends with both of them now.
	I love the girl that was his girlfriend.
	They broke up pretty quick after they she found out.
	She was mean for months to me about it, but like one day I kind of got tired of her being mean to me and explained to her I didn't owe her loyalty.
	I didn't know her.
	And when I found out, the first thing I did was tell her.
	But her anger is directed at me when I had no clue.
	And I genuinely felt really bad because when somebody cheats, they're exposing their partner.
	They're putting their partner's body at risk for diseases and things that they'll never get rid of.
	Like that's the biggest thing about cheating that's messed up.
	You're hurting your body and somebody else's without their consent.
	That part.
	Valentine.
	Word.
	Word.
	So wait, you say you're like going out and trying to find a new guy or what?
	Yeah, talking.
	Get to know people.
	So you're open to meeting somebody new.
	Are you on any dating apps right now?
	Yeah, just to promote my OnlyFans though.
	Just to promote your OnlyFans?
	I don't talk to people.
	How do you promote your OnlyFans on dating apps?
	Well, I'll just, I won't make it clear like that because I think you could get banned, but I just put follow me on Instagram and those nice people.
	Oh, so you just have your Instagram linked and your profile.
	Do you match with men?
	Do you talk to them on the apps?
	On dating apps now?
	On the dating apps.
	Oh, so you just have the profile, you'll match with people, but you won't engage in, okay.
	I would preferably meet in person.
	In person.
	Okay, so you're using the dating apps to get more Instagram followers and OnlyFans subscribers.
	Would you, if you met a new guy, would you tell him about your current that you're currently dating two other men?
	You tell them?
	Do you think that most men, if told that you're currently dating two other men, would be cool about that?
	Cool with that?
	No.
	I don't think so.
	Do you think they'd, like, a guy who would be who you think would be good for a long-term relationship, do you think he'd be like ready to pounce on commitment?
	Definitely not, but depending on how long we talk and, you know, I would be willing to cut that out, you know?
	So you would or you wouldn't be willing to cut out?
	I would cut it out.
	would cut out would you when it comes to uh seeing somebody new and maybe we can go around the table We should go around the table on this.
	when it comes to having sex how long do you like to wait to have sex um is it i'd like to wait a You'd like to wait a while?
	How long?
	Like a month or two.
	A month or two?
	How many dates do you think that would be typically?
	She's good.
	She's good.
	I think it also depends on how good we vibe too.
	Dates, maybe like, I don't know, I don't know.
	Let's say if you went on one date a week, it could be like, what, eight dates a week or something?
	Yeah, like four weeks.
	Ten dates?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You said one to two months?
	Yeah, wouldn't that be good?
	So you meet a new guy, and then you tell him, okay, we're going to wait.
	No sex until...
	Yeah, I could wait.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Going around the table on this, how long do you guys think we should, and we will get around fully to get everyone's relationship status, but how long do you think you should wait before having sex with somebody?
	Or not at all?
	I feel like first time.
	It depends for people, but for me, I don't go on dates.
	I don't like to go on dates.
	When I use the term date, a date doesn't necessarily have to be super formal in the sense of like, hey, we're going to go get dinner and then we're going to go see a moot.
	Like, a date could just be, let's hang out.
	When you say you don't go on dates, what do you do?
	I just hang out with them, watch movies.
	Just like come over to my place.
	Yeah, like I don't, I don't like to.
	Yeah.
	Because I don't want guys to think that I want to be in a relationship with them because I don't.
	So I don't like going on dates.
	And I just honestly, I've gotten from so many guys.
	They're like, you know what?
	There's something weird about you.
	And then they come back and they're like, oh, I know what it is.
	Like, you don't ask questions about me.
	And I'm like, yeah, because I don't fucking care.
	I like, I could care less.
	Like, it's not even me just trying to have sex with them or anything.
	It's just like, I honestly just could not care.
	Like, I don't know.
	About getting to know them a bit.
	Because if they take me out on a date, sometimes I'll go and I'll see if I want to do it.
	And then I just get the vibe.
	I'm like, okay, I really don't want to be here.
	And then they just keep asking questions about me.
	And I'm just like, I'm just trying to get to the end of it and leave.
	But no, that's why I don't really like going on dates because I feel like you get trapped there sometimes.
	Like you don't have anywhere to go if something goes wrong.
	But for me, if I'm going to hang out with a guy, it's a guy that I'm sexually attracted to.
	so like we're having sex so of the you did anyone by the way chat did anyone get a total did we get a count on is Is it like 50?
	I think that was an eye counted.
	I think it's in the 50 rating.
	I don't know if you can do it too, but she didn't.
	She didn't count the John Does.
	Oh, you didn't?
	There were John Does.
	Yeah.
	Oh my god, how many...
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay.
	Okay, hold on.
	We must now revise the list.
	Just say John Doe, John Doe, John Doe, John Doe, as how many John Does there are.
	Okay.
	These are the names.
	Nick, if you're able to adjust the exposure, these are the names of the men that you've hooked up with that you don't know their names.
	There's not that many.
	One, two, three.
	Four?
	Oh, just four John Does.
	Yeah, four.
	Four John Does.
	Or like I knew their names, but I just didn't remember them when I put it in the list.
	I see.
	So I made a little space for them.
	Gotcha.
	They're still there.
	So for you, typically, the question was, how long do you think you should wait before hooking up somebody, having sex?
	For you, is it just same day?
	Yeah, same dick.
	Because if I'm going to hang out with a guy, I'm obviously sexually attracted to him.
	Right.
	What's the, so how do you typically meet the guys?
	Is it through Instagram?
	Is it on dating apps?
	I don't use dating apps.
	No dating apps.
	So how do you meet them?
	Like at bars and clubs?
	Yes, but also I feel like I just like I reuse the same guys.
	You really?
	I don't really find new guys, which is awful for me.
	What do you mean you reuse?
	Like I just use guys like from like my high school or something.
	What the fuck?
	It's awful.
	Please tell me they're of age.
	Yes, of age.
	Okay.
	No, not like.
	Oh, I'm just a estimated $100.
	Why would Red care about them as long as she gets paid up front?
	She only needs to wait as long as it takes for the Venmo to hit.
	Confirm or deny.
	Is there an exchange of cash?
	Is there an exchange?
	I know you were in Italy.
	Euros, do they use?
	No, I never got to.
	What's the old Italian currency?
	The old one?
	I don't know.
	What's the old?
	Does anybody Know chat, what was the old Italian currency?
	You know, like how France had francs, they'd switched to Euros, Lira.
	Is it the Italian Lyra?
	Did you receive any Liras for I never when I go out on no, definitely not?
	Wait, so you said you'd meet them, but you of the list, you'd meet of the list.
	So, like, how'd you meet them?
	So, some of those guys, some of those guys were also like sugar daddies, so sugar daddies, okay.
	So, like from Seeking.
	So, yeah, I guess I did.
	Like, they did give me money.
	Some of them did.
	But it wasn't just like for sex.
	Like, I would also like, you know, I would go on dates with them, I'd hang out with them, I'd go on their boat, I'd, you know, stuff like that.
	Wait, what percentage of the today, by the way, did anyone, what was the count?
	I forgot what the count was.
	I don't know.
	55?
	Was it?
	I was like 56.
	Because you added 45.
	Was it 51?
	Was it?
	Did anybody in the chat count?
	Sorry, I missed it if you already said it, guys, in the chat.
	How many of them were sugar daddies?
	A couple.
	I went through a phase for sure.
	A phase?
	Yeah, I think when I, the year that, I think it was in 2021, a couple of them were sugar daddies.
	But my thing was, like, I had a friend who would like just fuck any guy on there for any amount of money.
	Like, $50, and he was like 80 years old, or like something like that.
	She was wild.
	But me.
	For 50 bucks.
	Yes.
	No, like, she was checking.
	We should have had her on the show.
	No, yeah.
	No, yeah.
	Maybe.
	I'll give you her info, but she...
	Are you in L.A.?
	No, I'm in San Diego.
	Okay, is she in SD2?
	Yeah, she's in San Diego too.
	We'll get that arranged.
	But she was really wild.
	But for me, like, my sugar daddies were in the range of like 30 to like 40 years old or like 30 in like 40s.
	I would never do anyone like too old.
	I would do it for a certain amount of money.
	I would never do it for like a certain, like, less.
	Like, I had my standards with.
	Yeah, I wasn't just doing everybody and anything, you know?
	So with the sugar daddies, there would be a cash exchange for the services rendered.
	Yeah.
	Provided.
	Okay.
	So, but not all of the guys that you've, some of the guys you hooked up with wasn't for money.
	Yeah.
	It was because you were attracted to them, you thought they were hot, you were maybe interested in them.
	Maybe more so for those guys.
	How long would you wait for them?
	Is it just.
	I mean, I feel like now that I'm older, I would definitely try to wait because everyone tells me, they're like, oh, you should definitely wait.
	Like, if you're sexually attracted to somebody, you should make them wait a little longer.
	Even my dad tells me that.
	But I'm like, but my thing is, is like, I am a very, like, I'm a very sexual person.
	So I'm like, it's like hard for me to wait.
	And like, I don't want to.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	I mean, I'm, me personally, I'm not a huge fan of waiting.
	So what's the quickest?
	Like, you first meet a guy, boom, met him at the club, bathroom, like that.
	Have you had anything like that?
	Bathroom.
	Behind it in the alleyway.
	Dumpster.
	I was about to say behind the dumpster.
	Hey, let's not knock behind the dumpster, okay?
	It's a perfectly valid place to have sex with your future wife.
	I think it was in Italy.
	I met this guy at a party and he took me in the steam room.
	The steam room?
	Yeah, it was really hot.
	It was all wet and everything.
	It was nice.
	That sounds uncomfortable.
	No, it was amazing.
	In the steam room?
	Yeah.
	Fucking in the steam.
	I know, I wish I filmed it.
	I didn't do OnlyFans back then.
	I was a fashion model.
	Huram!
	Because I have a sauna I sauna almost every day.
	Okay, a sauna's like kind of extreme, though.
	I would not want to fuck in the sauna.
	Chill because you can control the amount of steam.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	How long do you think you should wait before hooking up?
	My most recent, I waited from like July to October, like July 14th to like October 1st.
	Is that your last year?
	Is this the no, this is not the guy you're currently in the relationship with?
	Yeah, it is.
	Oh, wait.
	So we had like a situationship before we actually officially dated.
	So wait, you said from July to October, July, August, September.
	So like three to four months?
	September, sorry.
	So it was two months.
	Two months.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But I'm like weird about like I like people to get tested and like all that.
	So you like people?
	I like people to get tested before you sleep with them.
	Yeah.
	Because I do just like straight up ask people like I need you to get tested before.
	I do OnlyFans and like if I do stuff with girls like we test before it's just like protocol.
	That's what I was gonna ask your occupation.
	Yeah, I would of course ask a guy to show me their test results.
	Valid.
	Unless it's like with protection, you know?
	Word.
	So okay, this one guy who you're currently dating, you waited two to three months to have sex with him.
	Wait, question.
	So you do OF.
	Do you do BG content?
	I have some X-ray tapes, but they're not like out there like that.
	So they're like in a vault and they're like for the big spenders.
	Like I've only sold them to like a few people.
	My VIP clients.
	Yeah.
	There's so there's boy girl content of you.
	Is it a literal vault or like a metaphorical vault?
	So on OnlyFans, there's vaults and we organize them.
	Is that what is called vaults?
	It's a vault.
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	If you go to like the sidebar, says a vault.
	Okay.
	But it's with my boyfriend.
	And then like I said, I do collabs with girls and like I do girl stuff.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Oh, the BG content that you have is with your current boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	I've never done boy girl content with anyone.
	Anybody else?
	I see.
	Okay.
	So you said with this most recent guy you liked, you wanted to wait with him.
	You waited.
	It sounded like two months.
	What about previous partners waiting for them?
	At least a month.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I went celibate for two years, actually.
	Celibacy.
	Yeah.
	You were celibate for two years.
	I was sober for a year.
	I did the vegan thing and I did celibacy for two years.
	Celibate, vegan.
	Altogether.
	Sober.
	Sober.
	But the sober lasted a year, like where I wasn't drinking alcohol and partying, and then the vegan lasted like six years.
	Well, like three, and then I switched to pescatarian, which is like vegetables and fish.
	I have a question.
	Wait, you're vegan too, right?
	If a guy blasts, sorry if this is vulgar.
	If a guy blasts in your mouth, are you tech, because that's technically you're consuming an animal product, right?
	So are you technically, can you not consume a man's seed if you're vegan?
	So no, you can't.
	It's not in the vegan books.
	It's not in the vegan books?
	Are you vegan too?
	I've been vegan for significant periods of time, yes.
	Yeah, I can't.
	There's nothing because as somebody who is not vegan, I would assume it is.
	I think it's wrong, maybe, no?
	Question, could you...
	Okay, hold on.
	Because that person's a little bit more.
	Oh, this is going to be a really crazy question.
	Okay.
	So you're saying it's okay to consume a man's, a human's male seed, right?
	Yes.
	But like, for example, you can't drink milk.
	Like cows.
	Can't drink milk because cows are hooked up to machines and they're being tortured throughout that process.
	I wouldn't necessarily say that the male is being tortured throughout that process.
	I kind of want to go with no on that line.
	I don't know.
	Some girls keep sucking after, like, and it hurts.
	Yeah, that's hurt.
	It hurts.
	Chill out a bit when we're climaxing.
	Also, I just recently swallowed for the first time.
	Thank you for sharing.
	One time.
	Literally.
	So when I was vegan no more.
	When I was vegan, I didn't get the wrong.
	Ever swallowed.
	Abdul.
	Because you were vegan?
	I just had never tried it.
	I don't know.
	So here's.
	This happened at a spa, though, so it was like really fun.
	But wait, so you're, but I thought just there's like vegans, it's not just because of the animal cruelty aspect.
	Yeah.
	It's like health stuff too.
	Like everyone gets into it for their own reasons.
	So I guess it really depends.
	Right.
	So maybe some vegans don't.
	I guess what I'm trying to get at is: if you're vegan, can you consume male seed?
	Thinking that deep.
	I'm also not vegan anymore, so.
	Would that be cannibalism if we counted as vegan?
	But here's the thing, right?
	Could you, as a vegan, if it's okay to consume human male seed, well, hold on.
	Because now I'm thinking about cannibalism.
	Could you be a vegan but eat a human?
	Can you be vegan and sorry, I'm totally derailing this conversation.
	Can you be vegan but eat a human and still be considered vegan?
	I think it's no meat at all.
	Like human meat, but are humans considered animals?
	We're considered meat.
	We're male.
	We're animal products.
	We are.
	So the product of just so.
	So technically, if you were to, if you ate a human, you would not be vegan.
	You'd be a cannibal, but you also would not be a vegan.
	Exactly.
	So if you're vegan, you're not allowed to consume male seed.
	So I think vegans are fucking up.
	That's a great point.
	I'm assuming there's a bunch of vegans out there that are just letting their boyfriends blast.
	Like I said, when I was vegan, I didn't, and I had never done it until recently.
	So where, okay, I don't know where that went.
	What were we talking about?
	We were talking about it.
	I got a question.
	What if you're vegan, but your boyfriend eats meat or your other person?
	Yeah, my boyfriend does eat meat.
	But like, I'm not vegan anymore.
	It's a rough life.
	I eat fish and like seafood.
	How did we get here?
	I forgot.
	That is a good question.
	How did we get here?
	You brought us here.
	What's your, how long do you think you should wait before hooking up with somebody?
	I don't really have a time period because I think that's kind of gamey.
	I think that once you talk about intentions and if there's a connection, I don't really even believe in kissing until you talk about intentions.
	And once you have a connection, so I just kind of think it depends on your communication with the person, what you both want, and how do your goals correlate.
	But you said you're currently single, right?
	Yeah.
	Is there any, I might have forgotten, is there currently like anybody in the talking stage with you right now?
	No, I've gone on a couple of dates, first dates, but I haven't kissed anyone.
	There just wasn't a connection.
	And I kind of have non-negotiables.
	So.
	What are those?
	One of my non-negotiables is, so I'm Christian.
	Well, kind of.
	I don't go to church, but I do believe in Jesus Christ and the Bible.
	Not to be preachy.
	But whoever I'm with, they have to believe in something.
	I can't be with somebody that doesn't believe in anything.
	I don't mind your God.
	But you have to believe in something because people that don't believe in anything I've noticed don't have a lot of ambition.
	Also, a non-negotiable is purpose.
	I do believe that people should have a purpose and have a goal they want to get to in life, where they want to be.
	So I don't really think a relationship, like a girl, should be a man's priority.
	So I want to kind of know their priorities.
	Not their top priority.
	Their top priority.
	Wait, are you waiting until marriage?
	No.
	To have sex.
	Okay.
	So you're Christian, but you're open to dating anyone so long as they believe in a God.
	Doesn't matter which God, just a God.
	Well, it's kind of more than that.
	Well, I know you have other standards, but specifically on that, no.
	Well, on that, like I would prefer them to believe in Jesus Christ and my God.
	Well, you'd prefer them to believe in Jesus Christ, but you said non-negotiable was they have to believe in something.
	Yes.
	What about Shiva?
	I think that's the Indian way.
	Shiva, Hindu.
	He has a lot of six arms, and she's a goddess of war or something.
	I think I'm not an expert in, is it Hindu?
	i've never dated somebody that believed in hinduism um when i was a kid my dad took us to it was kind of what about zeus I have met people that believe in that.
	Like somebody who believes in any of the Greek or Roman gods.
	Well, so it kind of depends on how that plays part into your life.
	And if it's just something you say, oh yeah, I believe in this, but you don't actually follow its values or its teachings.
	My dad, I grew up going to different temples and churches.
	It was kind of despite my mom, but we benefit off of it.
	We learned a lot about Buddhism.
	We learned a little bit about Hinduism.
	We learned about Muslim culture and beliefs.
	So I'm just not out here telling people what God to believe in.
	Okay, so when it comes to how the quickness with which you'd like to get intimate with somebody, hook up with them, what are we talking here?
	It genuinely depends on the connection and our intentions and if they align.
	I'm not into hookup culture.
	I'm not into sleeping with somebody just to sleep with them.
	Oh, it's probably fine.
	Kind of feels like...
	Have you ever?
	Have I ever?
	I've never really been into hookup culture.
	When I was younger, I've been manipulated and kind of like deceived, but I play a part into that.
	But I've never been a fan of hookup culture.
	I don't go out much.
	I've never left a bar with a man and hooked up or woken up next to somebody in a bed and not know who it was.
	Okay, what about you?
	So just like her answer, I definitely think it depends on the connection that you have with the person.
	Maybe like, I feel like if I've known someone in the past or previously knew them and then started dating them, maybe that would be something that would happen a little bit quicker.
	If it's like a complete stranger, then it's definitely going to be a while.
	Have you ever been on a dating app?
	Yeah.
	Let's say you met a guy on a dating app, never met him before.
	Oh, yeah, that's going to be a while.
	Because I was saying this on my intake questions.
	Psychologies say that you can only hide yourself for about three months, but these fuckers are evolving.
	They hide themselves and their true character for a year, six months, two years.
	So especially if you don't know that person, especially me having children, if I don't know someone, it's definitely going to be a long time before I introduce them to my body or my personal self or like let alone my children.
	Say long time.
	What's a long time?
	Three months, four months?
	Yeah, it depends on.
	So we're just talking about sex, right?
	Yeah okay, so if I did not know that person, probably about three months, I see okay, all right.
	Okay, three months, all right.
	What about you?
	Sorry, what was the question bro we talked about?
	We keep forgetting.
	Yeah, how long should you wait?
	Oh, you already asked me the.
	Oh, did you already answer?
	Yeah, remember I said she was the first one oh yeah, and then I went around the table on it, yeah, yeah.
	So what was your answer?
	It was um, like about to ten dates in two months.
	Ten dates.
	Oh, I see, and this stemmed from your situationship with two guys.
	Okay, got it.
	Okay, what about you?
	People have had sexual and romantic relationships with all these rules since the beginning of time, but I'll say that the end that matters is if you're comfortable with someone and what type of relationship are you looking for.
	If you're looking to get to know a person for real, I would say you're not gonna just jump right for sex, but if you do really care for a person, you should probably should be sexually attracted to them as well.
	Okay, so I mean the reason I wanted to just go around the table on.
	That is if I was dating you and you said okay Brian, we have to go on 10 days.
	I mean I know you wouldn't articulate it this way but okay, we're gonna go on 10 dates.
	I like to wait two months, but in that time period if I knew that you were fucking two other guys, you're not the type of girl that I would wait to have sex with.
	I'll wait.
	I would, maybe me personally.
	Some guys are more cool with waiting.
	Me personally.
	I don't really believe in in waiting.
	I'm not in, but I'm not interested in just like one night stands.
	I'm not interested in sport fucking.
	I'm not interested in sleeping with a lot of women, but I also don't believe in like waiting long periods of time.
	So I mean, just even the waiting thing would be a big no-go for me.
	But waiting and while I'm dating you doing romantic things, take you on dates, buying you flowers, whatever it is, you're sleeping with two other men.
	I'm out, most men are probably out too so um, but I don't see why you would make.
	Why would you make a guy wait while you're fucking two other men?
	That's what I don't get.
	I get it.
	If you're like that's your standard okay, I see one guy at a time.
	I like to wait, I like to actually feel it out, boom boom, boom.
	Actually we reacted to Nick.
	If you can find, there was this Reddit post that we reacted to and maybe we can just do it again.
	Do you know what I'm talking about, Nick?
	It was two weeks.
	what's that I don't think it's pulled up on the tabs I think it was I'm trying to think what it was you it was a Reddit post I have no idea where it is it was
	it might be in the drop box hold up sorry I'm trying to see if I put it in the drop box no I don't think it's in the drop box it was the Reddit post it was the girl who was dating a guy for a month or two and you're not gonna find you're not gonna find it by Google because she deleted it from Reddit I might have emailed it
	do you at least remember though what I'm talking about it was the the girl who made a Reddit post and she was like hey so I've been dating this guy for two months I really like him but I'm like currently fucking I have a friend with benefits and she was asking like if you can try to find that one okay hold on we have here I'll just pull this up Cost times donated $107.
	Yo, thank you.
	Thank you, thank you, sir.
	Alright, and then, let's see here.
	Do you have it?
	I'm looking for it.
	I think another TTS.
	We got another TTS coming up here in just a sec.
	One sec, guys, while Nick finds it.
	Seven Deadly Simpsons donated $100.
	Thank you, man.
	My sprinkler goes like this, comes back like question for the ladies, would you rather have a husband or your Instagram?
	Husband.
	Husband?
	Husband?
	So you have to delete your Instagram for your husband.
	That would kind of suck.
	I have 100 followers.
	I don't care about Instagram.
	It depends who that is.
	I mean, obviously, I'm only going to choose a husband if it's the right person.
	But if it's a man who leads and takes care of me in the way that I need, then why would I need an Instagram if that was really an issue?
	But if I was dating someone who didn't necessarily take that role and wanted me to do that, hell no.
	Do what?
	Anything.
	Anything that I currently have going, if they wanted me to delete my Instagram, change something about my looks or my job or the way I dress, absolutely not unless it's the right person.
	Okay, what about you?
	Husband.
	I find it so sad that this is a question to be asked, but a husband will always be more fulfilling on a social media app.
	Nick?
	Oh, I guess that's for the ladies, Madison.
	I already have money.
	All right.
	I couldn't find it.
	It's probably here.
	Let me see if I can find it on my.
	With Rhino.
	Yeah, when Rhino was on the 17th.
	Maybe.
	Was it?
	Yeah, it was.
	I don't see it in.
	I'm looking at your emails.
	I'll try to.
	Nick, what's your relationship status?
	Let's just finish up on that.
	I'm currently single right now.
	Here, hold on.
	Sorry, you.
	Did we get your relationship status?
	We did?
	No.
	No, we didn't?
	Oh, no, we didn't.
	Go ahead.
	I am single.
	I have been taking some time for some focus on self, but I have my eye on somebody.
	Okay, here, Nick.
	send it again so you're single mick It's going to be in the inbox here.
	What happened?
	Well, that's what I'm here to discuss.
	Nick, that's what I'm here to discuss about is being single now.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Mick, give us the background here, okay?
	So last time I was on the podcast that many have seen, I was with Keith.
	Can you screw into the table a little bit?
	It's kind of hard between these two.
	Do you want to just hold the mic?
	You can hold the mic.
	I can.
	Just get close to it.
	Get close to it.
	Okay, so last time I was on here, I was with Keely Rose, who is an OnlyFans girl.
	And yeah, she basically, after six years of living together and being together every day, she left me for another guy.
	And she's currently in Melbourne, Australia with this other guy.
	And it kind of came abruptly out of nowhere for me a few months ago.
	And I was very heartbroken about it.
	But now I'm here ready to discuss it and show that I am okay and I will survive.
	You guys were married, right?
	Were you guys married?
	We were engaged.
	Engaged.
	And for a few years, we were engaged.
	And I definitely was committed to her and definitely loved her and wanted to be in a monogamous relationship with her and was monogamous during that period.
	Even though she was doing things with other guys for money, I always figured that at least, even if it was for money, at least she still loved me and it was just sex.
	It wasn't love and it wasn't making love and she would come back to me and that would be love.
	And, you know, now I'm definitely shocked by it.
	You don't expect your spouse to leave you for another man.
	But, you know, stranger things have happened in this world.
	And so I'm not alone.
	I'm sure there's many guys in my boat, but I'm all right because I still have my dog.
	And we go hiking and do things together.
	So at least I'm not alone.
	And I do, I am, you know, I purchased my first property for investment.
	So I do have cash flow that's going to be coming in soon.
	So I don't need her money anyway.
	And I'm purchasing a house in North Carolina.
	It'll feel pretty empty up in the mountains there by my, without her, you know, because I was going to buy it with the intention of her being with me.
	But now it's just going to be my little buddy and I.
	And I'm going to build a recording studio in it and go hiking and hopefully meet someone new.
	So that's, you know, that's kind of what my deal is.
	Nick, are you able to, can you pull up, no, no, no.
	Can you pull up Dating Talk 65?
	That's the episode that Mick was on with Keely.
	We don't really need to watch anything, but we'll just show, because Mick was previously on with his then fiancée girlfriend.
	Just for context for people, they appeared together.
	Keely, at the time, and I believe still currently, she is a stripper, correct?
	Well, she started as a stripper for a few years, and then when lockdowns happened, she wasn't able to make any money, so she went to being a porn star, and then from being a porn star to doing OnlyFans.
	And when she was on here, she hadn't done porn in like a year anyway.
	So it was like just OnlyFans that we were basically living off of and then my income too.
	But she was doing scenes on OnlyFans with other men.
	Is that correct, if I recall?
	No, not necessarily, unless it was like a sugar daddy that was giving her, you know, money and then they would film content or something around it if there was.
	And then she, but no, it was mostly just pictures of her and stuff.
	Just one sec.
	So while you were with her, she was sleeping with other men.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And do you feel like, if I recall the conversations that we were having about that, you said you were okay with it, but it seemed to me, it occurred to me that you felt to some degree pressured by her to accept the situation.
	I think at first I was like really disturbed by it and didn't want it.
	Then I started to get more used to it and become numb to the fact that that was what was going on.
	But then as time went on, it was like, like, we're going to have a home together.
	I want to have kids.
	Want to have this is what I was saying to her, you know, like I want a committed relationship, I want to love you and cherish you as my wife.
	I don't want you sleeping around anymore.
	Like that, that started to sink in more as I was getting older.
	Like when we met, I was like 20, 21, but now I'm 27, almost 28.
	And a lot can happen in those few years.
	So it's like I've matured now to where, like, you know, before I was young and naive, and now I'm like a man who wants to have a full-time job, you know, a committed wife and kids, and raise them and have a home and pay a mortgage and do all those adult stuff that I didn't want to do previously, you know, when we first met.
	So it's just, it's a very different mindset.
	So I think we kind of went further and further apart because I wanted to be essentially a normal middle-aged adult in America.
	Grid one motorsport donated $100.
	McHugh dodged the bullet there.
	Don't be a simp, be a pimp and move onto a woman that is not a 304 come dumpster.
	Maybe get TF out of CA, take some testosterone, hit the gym.
	Your future children will thank you.
	I hit the gym every day, actually, right down the road here.
	But yeah, I agree with you.
	I did dodge a bullet.
	I definitely, it could have ended worse.
	But, you know, the thing is, is that she wants to continue to, you know, sleep around, meet other guys.
	She wants to party and drink and smoke.
	And I don't drink at all.
	I don't party at all.
	I don't smoke at all.
	I don't do any of that stuff.
	I love socializing.
	I love meeting new people.
	But I'm not into partying and all that stuff.
	And that's what she really wants to do.
	And I think she's almost become like an alcoholic because she can't handle it.
	I've done a lot of research into psychology and I believe she's a malignant narcissist.
	And her coping mechanism for her anxiety and for her narcissism is to sleep with men, smoke weed, you know, and drink alcohol to cope with that because it's like almost like a mental disorder that she has to cope with to deal with all the stress and anxiety that comes with being a narcissist.
	And if you don't know what a malignant narcissist is, just Google it.
	But how recently did you guys officially split or break up?
	So she flew out about a week ago to Melbourne's Australia.
	So that was like officially the like it's over kind of deal for me.
	But we were keeping in touch for the past few months and she was lying to me about it.
	She was kind of manipulating me and like telling me that she still loved me and she still wanted to be with me because I think she couldn't deal with the me leaving her and being apart from her.
	So that was a very big stress for her.
	But I think, but basically like we I went out and saw, you know, we were spending time together and everything and she would like completely ignore me and start talking to this other guy and I'm like thinking some things up and then she started acting like I'm just not even there.
	Like spending 99% of the time with this other person.
	Like she's like, no, I'm here.
	But you know when someone's there in the room with you but not present and not looking you in the eyes and talking to you.
	That's essentially what was happening for like a month.
	And she was falling asleep in another bed away from me and video chatting with this other guy.
	And I'm thinking, this is just wrong.
	Do you love me anymore?
	Like she's like, you don't have to get upset about it.
	And she's kind of gaslighting me too.
	It's being like, well, you can sort of be with, you can still be with me and I can be with him and we can be in an open relationship.
	And I'm like, I don't want an open relationship.
	I want you.
	And you're trying to be with this other guy and I don't understand why you think this is okay.
	So, and how long has this been going on?
	For the past few months.
	But you said just a week ago.
	She finally left.
	When's the last time you saw her?
	About a month ago now.
	Oh, a month ago.
	So you guys had kind of been split, but she went through to Australian shit.
	Well, I had a lot of her things.
	I had to give her some of her stuff and everything.
	She basically was living in, you know, away from me.
	So it was like I, you know, was giving her back some of her things and she and I were still like, I was taking her out to eat and talking and asking how she was doing and stuff, you know.
	But she just started treating me so shitty for no reason.
	Like, like I'm just like, it's like, I'm not even being mean.
	It wasn't like I was abusive or a drug addict or something.
	I was just literally like, can we talk and have just normal discussion?
	But she couldn't even talk her attention span right now is like a goldfish.
	Last time you guys saw her, she's a completely different person.
	Let's actually just really quick pull up the episode for context.
	Here, get rid of the super chat though.
	Like move it to a different time stamp.
	So we can see, so we can see, not me.
	Like, so Mick, yep.
	Okay, so there's you, Mick.
	When was that?
	That was like six months ago or something.
	There's Keely with the red hair.
	Okay, and you guys came on the podcast and it was, you kind of talked about your guys' relationship and kind of what you've already said.
	You know, she does OF.
	She's got sugar daddies.
	She used to be a dancer.
	But she still kind of danced a little bit, was my understanding?
	Not as much at the strip clubs, but she did it if we needed money or something, yeah.
	Okay, and so she's now moved to Australia to date some dude in Australia?
	Yeah, this guy looks like a crackhead too.
	How did she, me, meet him?
	Online, through like live streaming and stuff, it was just meet me.
	So it wasn't, you know, it was just, but she did live streaming when I met her.
	That was how we met was on live stream.
	But she just was doing live streaming again for like fun.
	And then she totally, I think in her mind, you know, she was using me to get out of Vegas because she didn't want to be there.
	And almost like, I'm this person and I'm comfortable because we've been together for so many years now.
	And it was like this comfort, but she didn't really care or love me.
	And I cared and loved about her.
	I cared and loved her.
	And so what I think happened is we basically donated $100.
	Brian, please keep calling for solidarity of men against paying for low-quality content like of.
	Mick sounds like you're living it up.
	Lucky no marriage.
	No alimony.
	Keep your assets.
	I got off easy too of a similar situation.
	Hashtag blessed.
	Yeah, I definitely, I mean, you guys definitely in the chat tried to warn me and I definitely had some hesitation on it.
	We tried.
	Yes.
	So, but, you know, yeah, I definitely, I got lucky because I never actually got, you know, married and I got to keep all my assets and everything and, you know, didn't like have to pay child support or any of that stuff, you know?
	Yeah.
	So I am lucky in that situation.
	Have you had a rebound yet?
	Are you ready?
	Do you think you're ready for a rebound?
	I went on one date a bit ago, like a few weeks ago, with a girl, but she kind of ghosts of me since our date, so I don't know.
	But that's it.
	So no.
	But I would be happy to, if any girls out there want to message me, I would be happy to respond.
	Would you date another OnlyFans girl?
	You're like, no.
	I would consider it if she's really great.
	You can be traumatized.
	But I think it would probably be best if I just hooked up with an OnlyFans girl and not tried to get in a committed, you know, loving relationship with an OnlyFans girl.
	However, if she's really nice and she's still committed to me, I would be okay if she had an OnlyFans.
	However, I probably should be looking for something else, you know?
	Which, with your past experience, would you recommend to other men that they don't date girls that do OnlyFans?
	I would suggest you date someone who makes you happy and who's going to love you for who you are.
	And probably don't date a narcissist unless you are a narcissist yourself.
	Do you think that because of the self-centered nature of a narcissist is just they're not going to truly love you.
	And only narcissists can love other narcissists, I feel like.
	Was there a narcissistic red flag?
	There's a lot.
	Every single behavior role trait, if you just read down what a malignant narcissist is, Keely fits the description for every single one.
	And I still love and care about her.
	Like, I'm not hateful in my heart for her at all, but she does have issues with it.
	A lot of it stems from insecurity about herself.
	So there's insecurity.
	The narcissism is needing constant attention, not feeling that you're self-worth.
	So constantly trying to act out to feel that you deserve that self-worth.
	You know, doing things like partying and stuff so that you get more attention.
	Trying to sleep around with a lot of other guys.
	That's traits that a lot of female narcissists will have.
	Actually, it's almost like her behavior was almost like masculine behavior.
	Like, it's usually women that want to be more committed and have a family and all that.
	You had something.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	So a couple things.
	I don't think we should throw the term narcissist around because that gets thrown out a lot towards men and sometimes women in relationships.
	And typically they're not narcissistic.
	They're just shitty people.
	She sounds like she was just a shitty person.
	But also.
	Well, you're not privy to the details.
	The whole narcissist.
	No, I'm not saying I'm crazy.
	I'm not sure if she's favorite psychology.
	Like if I were to talk to a psychologist, they would say she exhibits all the traits of a malignant narcissist.
	But from your viewpoint, she sounds terrible, so I'm not trying to justify her at all.
	What does it matter if she's a narcissist or not?
	But what's the point you're trying to make?
	It's just weird.
	Everybody's not going to be able to do that.
	And she has many whites.
	Stop.
	Hold on.
	Go ahead.
	So, like, mental illness, everybody throws around mental illness with everyone constantly.
	This person's bipolar.
	This person's this.
	People are just.
	Is this like just a moment for you to virtue signal about?
	I'm not trying to virtue signal.
	It's just weird when people constantly throw out mental illnesses.
	But do you think nobody's capable of being a narcissist?
	What if she actually is?
	Narcissist.
	She could definitely be narcissistic.
	So what is your quarrel with him calling her a narcissist?
	Scratch that then.
	No, I mean, defends your position.
	I'm equating it to her.
	Narcissism is a coping mechanism for people that have had rough childhoods.
	Like 90-something percent of the time, that's what it is.
	So she had a rough childhood.
	You know, her mom died young and stuff.
	She had all these things and issues and insecurities.
	In her mind, when she's developing as a child, that's where it created the narcissistic personality.
	So everybody has different personalities.
	Narcissism creates a certain personality path that someone lives by.
	Hold on.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
	Mick, dude, just know, don't do it.
	Red is over there sizing up your wallet.
	Just know you just got your balls back.
	Learn from the experience and move on.
	Say no to OF304s.
	Find a nice church.
	Live a purposeful life.
	I don't have enough money, but what was your second thing?
	What was your yeah, yeah.
	I was just wondering, how did the beginning of the relationship start out?
	And like, did you notice like certain changes before it ended?
	Or was it kind of were you kind of blindsided?
	When I met her, she was this sweet, shy girl that worked at a subway that used to bring the subs out for the homeless and stuff when I met her.
	She was a completely different, sweet girl, and she was just very insecure and shy.
	But when I let her, you know, and that probably is a regret for me now, but when I let her go to do from working at a grocery store to stripping, that's when she very much changed.
	It helped her with some confidence, but it made her bring out even more of those narcissistic tendencies that she had before.
	How long had you guys been dating before she became a stripper?
	We lived in Tahoe for a while, so I believe it was seven months.
	I mean, look, truthfully, Mick, she obviously made, if she cheated on you, if she wasn't treating you well, that's on her.
	However, the moment your girlfriend came to you and said, I want to become a stripper, that's an insta fucking breakup for me and for any self-respecting dude.
	You should have dumped her that moment.
	You should have dumped her immediately.
	Yeah, in hindsight, I should have said, no, don't do it.
	But that should have, at the very least, been a pretty big red flag for you.
	Should have, yes.
	There was a lot of red flags.
	It should have either been an insta-breakup or a – it doesn't necessarily have to be an insta-breakup, but that's a position where you're going to say, babe, I love you.
	If we're going to stick together, you're not doing that.
	Would you afraid if you said no, she would break up with you?
	I was.
	Or were you actually like, were you actually down for that?
	Were you actually okay with that?
	I wasn't at first.
	I told her no at first and let's wait and see if we can make some more money.
	And she kept pushing it.
	And then she kept pushing it like we're going to go broke.
	We need money, you know?
	And so I mean, Momiko make money.
	So, Mick, this is this, welcome to the red pill.
	This is your red pill moment.
	This is the defining moment that will make or break you.
	And don't take this the wrong way.
	I'm just trying to give you some feedback here.
	I think you were Keely's to some degree, at least once she started getting involved in some of the sex work.
	You were her placeholder boyfriend.
	So a lot of these girls who do, especially who do sex work, they need a guy to fill that emotional abyss that is caused by doing sex work.
	So you're going to be their comfort.
	You're safe.
	You're comfortable.
	Most men, most men are not going to be like, are not going to be cool with their girlfriend being on the internet, naked, nude, fucking other dudes.
	Well, and she needed me to take care of her too.
	I mean, she couldn't drive.
	She never went to the grocery store.
	She never paid any bills.
	She didn't know how to, you know, even pay the cell phone bill.
	She couldn't talk to people because of her anxiety and insecurity.
	I had to handle all the adult stuff and drive her to where she needed to go.
	And so I was that comfort and that thing that she could rely on to do everything for her.
	And stupid me, I did everything for her and then let her, you know, keep doing it.
	But I took the money and managed the finances.
	So I felt like I did get something out of it, but it was, but at what cost?
	You know, I did lose, you know, a little self-respect in myself and then, you know, and then a little bit of, I lost, you know, the woman I love.
	So it's like.
	Does she actually have that bad anxiety or was she lazy?
	A little bit of both.
	Yeah.
	And a lot of narcissists are very lazy, yes, because they don't want to do much.
	Unless they're a psychopath.
	So yeah, I mean, Mick, I mean, as your father, I am hereby banning you from dating any other sex workers.
	No strippers, no OnlyFans girls, no girls who send out feet pics.
	Nothing, dude.
	No more.
	Like, you're done, Mick.
	You cannot date these girls anymore.
	I'm sorry, dude.
	Go find yourself a girl who studies STEM or something.
	I like smart girls.
	There you go.
	Beautiful.
	She's a nice, smart girl.
	Who doesn't do OnlyFans?
	Well, if she takes feet pics, it's not that big.
	No, no, no, no.
	Feet pics are not that bad.
	Backtrack, backtrack.
	Mick.
	I'm being facetious.
	Mick.
	Based.
	Nothing.
	Zilch.
	Zero, nothing.
	Well, sorry to hear about that situation.
	You know what could be interesting if you're down and Keely's down would be to hear the other side of the story, get you both on the show.
	We'll do a dedicated episode, and we'll just have you guys on the show.
	Just you two.
	So if she's down.
	If she comes back on, I mean, I don't know if she's going to because she doesn't know what she's even doing.
	Even Stevie Wondersworld never commits to 304s and never sim.
	Have some balls to dip on these hoes.
	I'm cringing.
	Grow a fucking bear.
	Hashtag fuck'em.
	That's 304s.
	That's an area code.
	Area code.
	Definitely an area code.
	Yo, LPE, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I want to see hashtag free Mick in the chat.
	That was big last time, yeah.
	Hashtag free Mick.
	Hashtag Mick Freed.
	Hashtag, or maybe hashtag Mick Freed.
	You're free.
	Free at last, free at last.
	Here, say it.
	I am free.
	No, say free at last, free at last.
	Free at last, free at last.
	Do the rest of the monologue?
	Oh.
	Do you know the rest of the monologue?
	No.
	Free at last?
	Martin Luther King Jr.?
	Oh, no, I don't.
	This guy.
	This guy.
	Okay.
	Can I add a controversial topic to that?
	Okay, so it's apparent that it's kind of like what he's into, right?
	Like it seems like he kind of...
	What's he into?
	I don't know.
	Like, he said, well, not even if she's on Feet Finder.
	Like, that kind of tells me that he's kind of like into that world a little bit.
	I don't think so.
	Wait, feet?
	You're into Feet Finder.
	He was brainwashed.
	He was just into anything.
	I don't know any sort of fetish.
	I was like, sex worker type of like atmosphere.
	So my family members own a strip club.
	So I grew up like doing my math homework next to strippers.
	And, you know, some of them are exactly what he's explaining.
	They have narcissistic tendencies.
	They have, you know, all sorts of issues stemming from their childhood.
	But there's also ones who have husbands who they go to work and they go home and their husbands are okay with it.
	And I really.
	That's a big L. That's a big L for me.
	No, it is.
	But if that's that person's choice, then at least look out for the red flags.
	Like he was explaining, she doesn't drive.
	She has anxiety to do this.
	What else is this person offering or bringing to the table if that is what you know your choice is to choose someone in that field?
	I wouldn't just say don't date anyone like that because there are shitty people everywhere and there's good people that's so true.
	Like, I really have to take when you're getting into a relationship with someone that does work in the sex industry.
	They have such a big audience, they can easily cheat on you no matter what.
	You don't think anyone can easily cheat on you no matter what?
	Actually, yeah, but hardcore Christian people are doing way worse than that.
	People like those have a bigger audience, more options, and more opportunities to be able to cheat on.
	There's a statistic that says that people in the medical field cheat the most.
	Literally, number one.
	I hear that.
	Yeah.
	Firefighters.
	I hear that.
	And like I think OnlyFans creators, yeah, there's probably some bad people in there, but everyone I've met through OnlyFans have been the most genuine, like hard-working people.
	They're good parents.
	They're good girlfriends.
	Raven DT donated $100.
	Mick, learn to recognize enabling behaviors in yourself because that's what allows people to take advantage of you.
	Learn about healthy boundaries.
	Be willing to walk away if she won't respect them.
	Talk to a therapist to help guide you.
	Hashtag free MIG.
	Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
	Like that's the answer right there.
	Not necessarily avoiding someone in any certain line of work because that can be anywhere.
	Set boundaries and precautions.
	And she stripped with some girls that were just trying to put themselves through medical school and they were just very normal outside of the strip club.
	So it's not, it's not just.
	It doesn't mick.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	My dude, there are a lot of fish in the sea.
	You need not date one of the fish that does sex work, my dude.
	You don't like it.
	You got to understand, man.
	Like, it's just an immediate L to be dating that kind of girl.
	I get it.
	It's immediate L.
	I don't care how nice she is.
	It's definitely a red flag, yes.
	It's a done deal.
	Yeah.
	If I was a, bro, if I was a.
	They're good for hookups, but they're not necessarily good for hookups.
	They're not even good for hooks.
	Well, at least in my view, not even good for hookups.
	Really?
	I don't want anything.
	Well, with a girl who does sex work.
	Oh, you know, anything.
	Well, I would say, yeah, I mean, definitely if you're looking for someone you love and want to be committed to, you probably should look for someone in a different industry.
	I told you he's into it.
	But is he into it?
	He's into like something.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	Not even the field.
	Why don't you want to let go of that?
	No.
	I'm just saying that they're not all bad people, okay?
	That's what I would say.
	Person are good partners, you know?
	Yeah, well, and they might necessarily be a good partner, but maybe a friend, you know.
	Mick?
	Get lost through there.
	Wait, question, Mick.
	If Keely came back right now and was like, I want to get back together, would you get back with her?
	That's what she wants, but that's not happening.
	Okay, good.
	Let's go.
	Because she told me, she's like, you'll stick around for me.
	I can go bang this other guy in Australia right now.
	And then if things don't work out with him, you can just come back to me.
	It's better than being single and stuff.
	And I'm like, no, actually, you're treating me so shitty.
	Like, nobody wants to be second fiddle.
	I mean, do you ladies think that that's okay for her to act like if she if she breaks up with him and things don't work out with him in a year and I take her back, I'm a sucker, right?
	I mean, never gonna lie.
	I would never let a guy treat me.
	Ever.
	So, yeah, we'll move on.
	But and that's part of her delusions that she has is she really thinks that I will be like, I can be manipulated that far that I can be manipulated to just come back with her, you know, like that.
	It's just crazy.
	What a shame.
	Don't get back with her.
	Don't get back with her, Mick.
	Yo, Ravens.
	They're not bad people that just make really bad decisions.
	What good is hooking up with an OF304 if six months later your peen falls off?
	That is true.
	Most people in the age of 10.
	They put dynamite around it are really good about their health.
	Like, really.
	Are they?
	Yeah.
	No.
	No, I'm serious.
	Where's Jay Butler?
	Jay Butler fucking starts dropping chats because we're going there.
	In what industry are you referring to?
	Hold on.
	We'll get to that.
	Yo, Mick put on a flannel like Brian and I got it.
	Hold on, I'm going to get him a fucking probably get laid to hashtag free Mick.
	He's got one of those.
	When I'm hiking around the mountains and stuff in North Carolina, I usually will be wearing a flannel.
	Yeah.
	I used to do forestry firefighting and I would wear that sometimes.
	Be cold up there.
	It is.
	It's cold up in the mountains.
	It's going to be a cold winter.
	For sure.
	What is your biggest takeaway from this breakup that you've been going through?
	I think when we first met, I was more young and naive.
	I was like just willing to get with whoever was the first cute girl that would talk to me and now I'm like You're gonna be smart now Now I'm willing to be a little more patient and stuff, especially because I'm older and not as horny as I was when I was a young man.
	Forget settling.
	You know, so I'm not going to settle.
	I'm going to find someone that's perfect for me.
	And that doesn't mean I can't talk to you and we can't get to know each other.
	But if I don't think it's going to work out, I'll just be like, hey, it's not going to work out.
	That's beautiful.
	Put it on.
	All right, Mick's joining.
	I also have a seven lapel here.
	Seven lapel pin for you to wear.
	Okay.
	Now we're matching, right?
	Maybe you'll have to earn it by the end of the show.
	All right.
	Mix putting on the purple flannel.
	There you have it, folks.
	Okay.
	Let's pull up the Twitch really quick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop as a prime sub.
	If you have one, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Let me shout everybody out here.
	Yo, swordless, hey, thank for the tier three.
	Blur, thank for the prime.
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	Appreciate it, guys.
	Thank you guys.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drops a follow, drops drapath prime sub.
	Hold on just one sec.
	Let me just make sure we got through all these.
	I think we got them all.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we got this coming in.
	Hold on.
	Wait.
	Oh, I'll read it.
	75 bodies.
	I didn't even have one until I was 20.
	Please find God.
	So to me?
	Wait, just one clarification on your list.
	So if we do the counting, of the people on the list plus the four John Does, was it four John Does or five John Does?
	Four.
	Four?
	I think the math that the chat did was at 56 total.
	Do you have, have you counted?
	No.
	But you said you stopped the list in April.
	Yeah, but is there a new list?
	So since I have like stop with seeking and stuff, like I honestly, I normally just stick to like one or two guys.
	Like I don't seek.
	Are you talking about the website?
	Yeah.
	But ever since I stopped with that, like, because I used to have like multiple sugar daddies at the same time.
	But no, ever since I stopped with that, like, like I said, like, I only see like one guy.
	Actually, I see like I see another guy every so often.
	Like when I go hang out with like certain friends and stuff, we also hang out in the same group.
	But that's not like, I don't like hit him up and like every week and stuff.
	And like we hang out.
	It's just kind of like whenever I see him.
	Okay.
	But no, I don't like hook up.
	Like that was all in the span of like, I know that is a lot in the span of like a year, but that was kind of like my whole phase, if you would say it.
	Like I don't really, like even with OnlyFans and stuff, like most girls, like myself, they hook up with one guy.
	Like they only do boy girl content with one guy.
	They won't do with like a whole bunch of guys like when you're on porn hub and stuff.
	Same like with girls too, you kind of hook up.
	You hook up with like different girls as well.
	But it's normally kind of like the same girls that you see or like that are your friends with that you collab with and stuff like that.
	So okay.
	All right.
	You mentioned ho phase.
	Let's go around the table on that.
	Who here by show of hand has had a ho phase?
	Show of hand.
	Have you had a ho phase?
	What does that mean?
	Like or you just wild out.
	Wait, what was your show?
	Can you show this camera your tattoo?
	Oh, yeah.
	I have two palm tattoos.
	I'm covered in tattoos.
	What does it say?
	Heartless?
	Yeah.
	Are you heartless?
	Have you seen The Weekend, the song?
	It's from his song.
	Heard.
	But no, I'm definitely not.
	That guy.
	Who?
	The weekend.
	What about the weekend?
	Who's he?
	The weekend.
	What about the weekend?
	He has a song called.
	Are you talking about Saturday and Sunday?
	Yeah.
	His name's Abel, but whose?
	Whose name?
	The Weekend.
	From the band.
	What about The Weekend?
	Oh my gosh.
	He's a famous artist.
	You know who he is.
	But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's also a word in the English dictionary, but it is.
	What about you?
	Oh, sorry, Hofez, were we doing...
	Yeah, we all had our hands up.
	All of us, really?
	I think everybody did.
	Maybe I had my hands.
	You had one?
	What everybody's had that make have you had a ho phase?
	No, I haven't.
	Or no, I haven't had a ho phase.
	Yes, you do now after the partners have that.
	Do you even men have a ho phase?
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	They are man wars out there.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean.
	All right.
	No, I don't know.
	I'm kind of like a wallflower, you know.
	I've had a ho phase and a celibancy phase.
	I've had a celibacy phase.
	How about that?
	Let's double whammy.
	Okay, well, she left.
	When you say you had a ho phase, what does a ho phase look like?
	What are we talking here?
	You asking me?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I slept with like four guys in a month.
	That was a ho phase when I was like younger.
	It's not the worst I've ever heard.
	I lost my virginity at 18, so it was like right after that.
	Four in a month.
	That's one every week.
	I mean, some girls be doing three in a day.
	Five in a day.
	Never have I had that big of a ho face.
	We had a girl on who did five dudes in a day.
	I bet that was a very sore day for her.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure.
	I would think so.
	She seemed cool with it, so I don't know.
	She was also a sex addict.
	So she was like, again, sexual addiction.
	She was recovering.
	A recovery addiction.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, because she regretted that decision to do that every day like that.
	So four in a month.
	Was that the extent of the ho phase?
	Just like a one-month.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	I lost my virginity and I was like, woo.
	Oh, so the wait.
	The ho phase started at the loss of your virginity.
	Actually, no, I had two ho phases.
	Let me go back to this.
	Let's talk about the ho phase.
	So I had one when I lost my virginity at 18, and then, May of 2020, I had another one after my celibancy, because I got really attached to the guy that I chose to sleep with yeah, and he broke my heart.
	He broke your heart, he broke my heart.
	So I just went wild dating the guy.
	I wasn't dating him.
	Oh, how did he break your heart?
	Because I liked him a lot and I lost my celibancy to him.
	I felt heartbroken wait.
	So you met him, you were celibate and he was so hot that you chose like, were you planning already?
	I was ready yeah, I was ready to get out of it.
	So I started like going on dates with people and we waited like a month and a half and it was my birthday and I was like you know what?
	This is my birthday present.
	So, oh, you had been dating him for a month and a half.
	Seeing each other, hanging out, Netflix and chill, dinners.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then you guys hooked up just once and then it was over?
	No, we hooked up for like three months.
	And then that's whenever I was like, I got really attached to him because like I hadn't felt like intimacy in so long.
	And then, you know, I really liked him.
	Huh, okay.
	So, but the ho phase, you said you lost your virginity and then you had a ho phase.
	Yeah.
	So like who you the person you lost your virginity to, was it just like a random guy?
	It was a guy I was dating in high school.
	He actually, his dad was a preacher.
	So.
	Preacher's son, yeah.
	Very uncomfortable.
	Uncomfortable.
	Yeah.
	You hooked up in the church.
	Is that what happened?
	No, but his mom was kind of crazy and like made us leave the door open and like she like walked in.
	Made you leave the door open while you guys were just like hanging out, yeah.
	He was 19, I was 18.
	Okay.
	But so okay, you hooked up with him.
	How long were you see him after like three months?
	Oh, three months.
	He was too boring for me.
	I couldn't do it.
	He was too boring for you.
	Yeah.
	Too boring.
	What do you mean, too?
	How so?
	Like he was just a boring person.
	I'm also from a really small town.
	Like there's like 500 people in my hometown.
	What does it mean if a guy's like too boring?
	I don't know.
	What does that mean?
	He just wasn't interesting.
	Like he was lazy and just not an interesting person.
	So do you, but I mean, wouldn't you find that out pretty early on?
	Like you lost your virginity to like a really boring guy that you don't really like?
	Yeah, it sucked.
	And that's why I had that little phase.
	Because I had to like get some excitement, I guess.
	I don't know.
	You had to get excitement?
	I had to get some excitement, yeah.
	And also I was really young and like that was like 18.
	Come on.
	Wait, where are you from?
	I detect a bit of an accent.
	So I'm living in LA.
	I've lived there for a bit, but I'm from Tennessee.
	Tennessee.
	Morgan County, Tennessee.
	How close is that to Nashville?
	Oh, like three hours.
	I literally live in the mountains.
	Yeah.
	You're in the sticks.
	I graduated with 50 people.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Okay, so this bore.
	Maybe we can come back to the whole boring thing.
	That could be interesting.
	Some guys are boring, no?
	Are you boring?
	No, I'm so fun.
	Are you?
	Yeah.
	Make me laugh.
	I think I have a great personality.
	Make me laugh right now.
	Okay.
	I'm ready.
	I got a joke for you.
	What did the grape say when it got stepped on?
	Probably could have been split on the...
	What did the grape say when it got stepped on?
	No answer.
	Wine?
	It let out a little wine.
	Damn, you're ahead of me.
	Has someone told you that on the show?
	No, I just, I was thinking, what can you make with grapes?
	That's a good joke.
	Come on.
	Give me a little credit.
	Give me like two points out of ten.
	I'll give you three.
	Okay, thank you.
	I thought it was a good joke.
	Okay, obviously I'm.
	I'm stopping.
	Get some help.
	Okay, I'm a boring person then.
	Entertain me.
	I could tell you some crazy stories, but that's not really entertaining.
	It's just like wild and okay.
	I don't know where I'm going.
	I'm not sure where I'm going.
	I don't think I'm a boring person.
	I'm boring.
	You're boring?
	Yeah, I'm really boring.
	What's your favorite thing to do?
	I love movies.
	I like movies.
	I spent the last two months.
	My weekends, I typically am home, so I spend Fridays.
	I go to the gym five days a week, but I spend, typically I love to spend my Fridays and Saturdays watching movies.
	Like last weekend, I watched Interview with the Vampire, the original movie, the weekend.
	And then the night before the pod, like coming to California, I watched The Forever Purge.
	That movie is so good.
	But yeah, I'm pretty boring.
	I don't enjoy going out too much.
	Checks out.
	You weren't always boring, though, were you?
	I was still pretty boring.
	Did you tell us you used to dance, right?
	Yeah.
	You used to be a stripper.
	Yes.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Hold on, guys.
	I'm just getting my notes here.
	Where the fuck were we?
	We're talking about boring.
	the reddit thing oh that was related to i guess we could do that really quick All right.
	We already did this before, but it was related to the conversation, Nick, if you could make it smaller.
	Not video tab.
	We're not on the video.
	No, no, no, no.
	Make us smaller.
	make the text bigger please but can you make it all right i'm i'm i'm oh my god i can't fucking speak tonight Okay, I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information.
	I've recently gone official with a man.
	I've been dating for a couple months.
	This is related to your thing with the, you got two situationships.
	And if a new guy were to come into the picture, you'd make him wait.
	I've recently gone official with a man.
	Oh my God, I can't believe it's taking us this long to get to this.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	I've recently gone off fishing with a man.
	I've been dating for a couple months.
	He's kind, respectful, and considerate.
	I really think he could be the one.
	But something is eating at me.
	I want to build slowly with this man.
	So we didn't become intimate until after going exclusive.
	But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple of times.
	Back then, I didn't think anything of it, as I wasn't exclusive.
	But I underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend, and I feel almost like I've cheated on him.
	Have I done something wrong?
	Do I need to tell him?
	Will he end things with me?
	So this girl is posting on Reddit asking for advice.
	Update.
	So she did.
	Tell him.
	There was mixed reactions here, but my gut told me I should tell my boyfriend.
	He said, sorry, I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that.
	Then he blocked me on everything.
	Good for him.
	Yeah.
	Boom.
	Honestly, see, I think it's different because that guy ended up being the boyfriend, right?
	And then she went to go see a friends with benefits.
	So it would be different.
	While he's going on dates with her.
	Well, he's going on dates with her, and she says they were not exclusive.
	There was no discussions of being exclusive, but yeah.
	Oh.
	Well, I mean, I don't know what to say to that.
	I guess, well, because, okay, you said that you would like to wait to have sex with a new person you meet two months, something like that.
	Was it two months, a month, one month, two months, ten dates or something?
	And it's kind of like similar to that situation because you're currently in a situationship with two guys.
	You're sleeping with both of them.
	I don't, like, what guy in his right mind would want to wait to have sex with a woman who is while you are courting her, while she's making you wait, she's fucking two other men.
	I also feel like it should be a discussion, let's say with that new person.
	Okay.
	Depending on, like, what we agree on, like, okay, if we're like, oh, you know, I'm not seeing no one, and I agree with that too, then I would definitely cut that off.
	I think first day, I mean, isn't it?
	It's too soon to cut ties.
	But I think it was more than a one date, right?
	Well, yeah, the Reddit post, it was they were dating for what, was it two months, if you can pull it up real quick, Nick?
	She recently went official with the guy she was dating for a couple months.
	So for those first couple months, I guess they weren't official.
	They weren't exclusive.
	But during that non-exclusive period, she was having sex with the friends with benefits.
	But they didn't have sex until she was They didn't have sex until she was they were exclusive because she said oh, I want to wait So I guess my issue is it's like it's fine if you want to wait, but it's kind of Don't drag it along right?
	Yeah, that's gonna drag what along like how no it's just like have I feel like you should have one standard like If for example if I met a girl and the like a week before we met she fucked a guy immediately and then I meet her and she's like oh I'd like to wait two months.
	I'm like okay you're playing me.
	Goodbye.
	Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
	Oh no, it's just like look you're free at any given time.
	You could have slept with a thousand men before me.
	You could have slept with a thousand men before me within 10 minutes of meeting them.
	You meet me, you could say I'm waiting till marriage.
	That's always going to be your right, but I'm going to look at you like a fucking clown and you're not getting my time.
	Yeah.
	Does nobody have anything to do with that?
	No, I could agree.
	I kind of agree with that.
	Like it would be like if it was vice versa, like if a guy, you know, did that to me, I wouldn't like that.
	Yeah, but then why are you making this one guy wait and why are you not making this other guy wait?
	So people girls tend to make guys wait because why?
	They take that seriously.
	If they don't take it seriously, then they're just going to sleep with you because that was the goal.
	But why wouldn't they sleep with them immediately, no?
	What?
	Why wouldn't they sleep with them immediately then?
	I guess if you care about that person and you're supposed to wait and not rush things, I guess, as opposed to just having a one-night stand and meeting someone and sleeping with them.
	Here, let me ask this question for the whole panel.
	Have you ever been dating a guy and you made him wait because maybe you really liked him all the while you were like hooking up with a friend?
	Yeah, the friends with benefits and F buddies.
	Not that situation, no.
	No, I've never dated.
	Well, you've never dated anybody.
	You've never waited.
	So around the table on this?
	I wasn't hooking up with people at all.
	I was like really focused on that one person and like going on dates with them.
	But I definitely didn't close off my roster.
	I still like flirted with people and talked to them just in case it didn't work out.
	But I was very interested and when I know I'm interested in someone, I pursue that.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah, I guess just to your point, it depends on the situation.
	So yeah, you shouldn't be fucking someone while making someone else wait for it.
	That is like contradictory for sure.
	Yeah, no.
	Like if I truly liked that person, of course I would like, you know, not meet up with other people.
	And as you said, I would keep my roster open, but I don't think I would be like messing up.
	Actively flirting or sex without having said.
	You'd keep your roster up or?
	Open.
	Open for now.
	Like, you know, still talk to them and stuff like that.
	Because what if the guy ends up being a total loser?
	Yeah.
	Well, if I like someone, I'm, you know, focus on that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	If sex is about being comfortable with somebody, I don't think that if you're waiting for three months at a weird, like, you're not comfortable around your person after months.
	Okay.
	I like to get to know someone as a friend, though, too.
	Like, you know, beforehand, kind of, like, vibe them out, you know?
	Before I give them my body.
	I agree with what you said though because I did say three months but however if I did fully wait three months with you I probably don't like you that much.
	So that is an honest answer.
	Can I ask a question about rosters?
	Yeah.
	Let me I just want to address the Red Post really quick.
	I think while they weren't exclusive, I do think it's a reasonable assumption for someone to make that if you're waiting and they claim to be building something, they aren't out fucking other people.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know, you cannot be ready for an emotional commitment to someone and want to take it slow while still seeking casual intimacy with someone else in the meantime.
	So yeah, I don't know.
	Buy a sex toy.
	If you want that.
	Grow it.
	That's not the same as the real thing.
	Yeah, I was about to say the real thing is different.
	Here, I'll be reading it.
	Let me read this.
	All right, Austin Smith.
	We all saw that coming, you fool.
	This dude.
	Did I read this?
	I don't know.
	Did I read it?
	This dude is walking all these other men we have.
	When the draft comes, Austin Smith, directed to Nick.
	Nick?
	Or sorry, Mick, excuse me.
	You had something you wanted to ask on something?
	Rosters, yeah.
	I just learned what they were at the beginning of the year from my friend.
	What's the point?
	So is everybody on your roster like people that you like that you're trying to figure out if you're gonna date?
	Or is it like people that you're sleeping with?
	For me, since, well, yeah, some people do like dating and sleeping with, but like since I don't date, it's just people I sleep with.
	Different for everyone, I guess.
	Yeah.
	It could also be just like a backup, like if you're talking to the top guy on your roster.
	Yeah, like you're gonna go to the next person.
	Which I don't, I personally think that if you're talking to one person, your attention should be to them.
	Well, you could be talking to, you could be sleeping with all of them or you could be sleeping with none of them, but I feel like as long as you're in some sort of constant like flirtatious activity with them, then that's like could be your roster.
	Yeah.
	But like I said before, when I was in high school, I had a roster of like five guys, but like I used to rank them.
	Like that's different.
	But like, it was still a roster.
	Like, it's still like people that I liked and I wanted to do stuff with, you know?
	Good times.
	So I'm going to get into the pre-show notes segment.
	A lot of you guys provided some pre-show notes.
	We have Kiara.
	You said you were dating an ex and we were both very abusive and I kicked him in the throat.
	Yeah, I did say that.
	Yeah.
	Do you want me to kick it?
	That's pretty funny.
	Not really, because I mean, I'm not, that's not like one of my proudest moments.
	You kicked him in the throat?
	So it's because we were like not good.
	It's just he, I was like in a Prius and I don't know.
	I think it's called the dashboard.
	I was like, you know where the passenger seat is, but my back was kind of like face on the dash.
	Like where the window's at?
	The dash.
	So you were facing towards the channel.
	Turned around.
	Yeah, I was turned around.
	Yeah, that's cool, but can you talk into the microphone?
	Yeah, I had turned around and like he grabbed me by my shirt and I was like, don't do that.
	And like, you know, he was like grabbing my shirt and I had some sandals on and I like kicked him kind of a little hard.
	What's the context still?
	Like he was grabbing your shirt.
	Why?
	This was like a Chris Brown end of relationship argument.
	Honestly, I don't even remember why that happened.
	Like was he angry at you?
	Yeah, we were like trying to mess around.
	I'm trying to remember why that happened.
	I think cause I think cause I was I went to my we went to drop off one of my friends and I went inside to go say hi to her his mom.
	I mean I'm sorry, my friend's mom.
	And he thought I was doing something else and we had like a whole argument when I came back into the car.
	Was it the male friend?
	No it was a girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I just want to go say hi to her mom because I've known her for like 10 years.
	Is this the ex that you're currently seeing?
	No, no.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Who do we have?
	We have...
	I feel bad.
	He was crying.
	He was crying?
	You like smash his wind.
	I kicked him literally like right here.
	Was he choking?
	He was like, and he was crying and I felt bad.
	Was it self-defense, though?
	Yeah, I feel like it was self-defense.
	Self-defense.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	We have Sage Brush.
	Is that your actual name?
	Or that's just your Instagram name?
	Sage is my real name.
	Sage is my real name.
	Okay.
	You said you used to be a stripper, which is something you're not proud of.
	How long did you strip for?
	About three months.
	Okay.
	You.
	Is there something wrong with your bladder or are you just getting up a lot?
	I've been.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You said you dated a business, commercial construction business owner who came to see.
	Sorry, I kind of explained it where I'm bad at texting.
	I dated somebody that did, he worked in commercial construction.
	He did sighting and framing and came to the States when he was about my age, 18.
	He was 49 now.
	Okay.
	You said he forced you to grow.
	He was very harsh, but ultimately it was a blessing.
	So did he get you out of stripping?
	Sort of.
	I also didn't like it.
	I really hated stripping.
	I'm not big.
	I've never been a club person.
	And so when it became my job, I hated it even more.
	But he forced me to grow because he was harsh.
	Like, he's definitely, Andrew Tate's one of his favorite people.
	And he is very self-made, came from everything.
	Like, I have so much respect for him.
	But he's like really harsh.
	You're Gordita.
	You need to lose weight.
	Gordita?
	Crunch?
	Gordita.
	What's Gordita?
	Fat girl.
	Fat.
	Fat girl.
	Gordita?
	I thought that was a Taco Bell.
	I'm probably pronouncing it like that, but...
	gordita uh he's he would also um gordita you're my crunch like Like, puta and all this stuff, but not, it was mean, but it was like, I really respected how he thought, how he built himself up, and being surrounded by somebody that is as smart as he was kind of lifted me up to where I wanted to change and better myself.
	Gordita?
	Okay.
	I'm trying to see what other.
	You also said that I do believe that someone doesn't have to be successful or living their purpose to be worthy of a good relationship.
	I believe you can help them achieve their purpose and success.
	That's someone who's building an ambitious in their future is just as desirable as someone already there, if that makes sense.
	The love is real.
	It doesn't matter what someone has or doesn't.
	You can build an empire together from scratch.
	Agree.
	Yeah.
	Do you care to add?
	I'm just giving you a prompt so you can talk.
	As long as someone is ambitious and wants to build something with their life, I don't really think it matters what they have.
	Like, I believe you can be happiest with somebody and have nothing.
	Then you can be with somebody that has everything and can give you money.
	But at the end of the day, I don't think money has that much value.
	You don't take it with you when you die.
	take life experiences, love the people you know when you pass away, so I believe.
	Would you date a broke guy?
	Yeah, I have before.
	You have before?
	What about now?
	Now I would still date a broke guy.
	Do you have kids?
	I don't have any kids.
	Do you want to have kids?
	Yes, when I'm married.
	I want to get married and wait two years till I have kids just because I want to raise them in a happy family.
	But I mean, so you don't care at all about your money at all?
	I do care about money, but it's more mindset because if you have the right mindset, you'll have the money.
	You'll make the money.
	It's all about the mindset.
	Where are you now?
	I believe so.
	Where are you now?
	Where do you want to be and how are you going to get there?
	It's a bit of survivorship bias though, because wait, is that the right term?
	There's plenty of people who have the right mindset and who have XYZ good characteristics, but they don't end up making it.
	In the same way, like I'm sure there's a lot of ambitious people in Hollywood that want to be A-list celebrities and actors and they never make it.
	There's a lot of people that never make it in a lot of fields.
	And you can be ambitious and talented and skilled and not make it.
	Well, yeah, you cannot make it, but how many times are you willing to get back up?
	And if one thing doesn't work, you can move on to another.
	Like I believe in who I was is not who I am now.
	Who I am now is not who I will become and who I die as is not who I become is not the same as what I became.
	So it's really just how many times are you going to get up?
	How much do you really want this?
	I feel like if you truly want something, you will do everything to have it.
	So I don't really believe in failing and not getting back up.
	And if one thing doesn't pan out, then I do think you can move and go on to something else that you're better at.
	So you're kind of saying like for you at least you care more about somebody's ambition than their actual like you're you're willing to build with a guy.
	It's not clear to me if a lot of women want to build with a guy.
	I think most women want to move in, to met like with men who are and I don't I don't mean that literally but they don't build.
	A lot of women don't build.
	They move in.
	I'm learning.
	They want a guy who's already successful.
	Yeah, I mean, I've been with both.
	I'm learning construction and trying to be a part of that and learn that world because I genuinely love it.
	It's so much fun to be on project sites and I feel strong when I do roles and stuff.
	But yeah, I want to be.
	It's just not clear to me, like I often hear women say that they're attracted to ambitious men, it's not clear to me if women are attracted to ambitious men or men who have already reaped the benefits of their ambition, because there's plenty of ambitious men who are not particularly successful, who never made it or don't have a bunch of money.
	Like a very ambitious homeless person is not likely to be seen as a suitable mate for women there's.
	There's so much more value that you can gain with ambition than you can from somebody that's already made it.
	I know people that went to college and got their degree, and that's hard, so I'm not devaluing that.
	But their family supported that.
	They don't know what it's like to truly struggle, to come from nothing and build everything.
	And the conversation is different with those people.
	I'd much rather struggle with somebody that I can be mind, body, soul, naked with than somebody that I can't relate on those certain levels or they can't relate to me on those certain levels and the conversation is just kind of shallow.
	So when you get married, do you want to have a 50-50?
	Like you want to equally contribute?
	You said, because you said build together, right?
	So do you want the 50-50?
	I believe in traditional values, but I wouldn't mind doing 50-50.
	But you said in your notes to us, you said you can build an empire together from scratch.
	So what precisely would you be contributing to build that empire together?
	Well, I've been trying to learn payrolls, like starting a business.
	I've been trying to learn more of the financial spots of that.
	My buddy that does construction that I'm close to, he...
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	He knows everything about the construction and the group part of it.
	I'm not sure if everything has to be 50-50, but I also do believe that you can support someone.
	And that's to say, if somebody is not where they need to be, you can help them get there.
	That doesn't mean that you have to stay at that same level.
	Okay, so you said you can build an empire together.
	When you say empire, what do you mean?
	Anything a business, a successful business, a successful.
	Who here wants to build an empire with their future partner?
	You have to have money, though, to back that.
	So the guy would need to have women have worked.
	Hold on.
	Just show who wants to build an empire with their future partner.
	What's an empire?
	Yeah, I don't even know what that means.
	Yeah, we should have to do it.
	We need to define the terms, I guess, but it could be...
	A legacy, a foundation.
	It could literally be anything.
	Whatever it means to you, whatever empire means to you, that could be something.
	Maybe we should ask the chat.
	Chat, what do you guys think?
	What is an empire?
	What's an empire here, guys?
	What does it mean to build an empire together with your partner?
	Are we talking a business?
	Are we talking a business?
	I probably do.
	We hit the finish line.
	Financially and build a family.
	An empire.
	Well, when we are talking about empire, do we mean like, let me Google empire just so we're empire definition?
	Bro, don't give me the dog shit TV show.
	Hello?
	An extensive group of states or countries under a single supreme authority formally?
	Okay, wrong one.
	Hold on.
	Let's see.
	I'm looking at disregard.
	I think the word you were looking for more is like foundation, like a foundational family.
	You have a business, you have a home, you have kids.
	I think it's like the better term, right?
	What's it called?
	The power couple thing.
	When people are talking about empire, they want to be a power couple.
	They got a business together.
	They're making a lot of money.
	A large commercial organization owned or controlled by one person or group.
	For example, her business empire grew.
	So when you say that you want to have an empire, build an empire with you can build an empire together.
	That's what you, is that what you want?
	You guys want that?
	Build an empire with a partner?
	Yes, sir.
	What are you guys going to do to help build the empire?
	Okay, I dated somebody that started their own business.
	I didn't build their business.
	I had no part in that.
	They did that completely on their own.
	Well, at their two-year anniversary, I tried to show my support.
	I paid for a five-star restaurant in Denver to take their family and their friends out to dinner.
	And I put this in my thing.
	Helped pay for their car, $5,000, and bought them a camera because they wanted to try podcasting and videotaping for their business.
	So it's showing support.
	It does not meet the empire criteria.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Then show support in some way.
	If somebody's trying to build something for their life, I do think as a woman, it is your responsibility to show support in ways not in ways.
	Let's see the bowing video.
	This is how you build an empire with your husband.
	Nick, the bowing video.
	What's the bowing video?
	Make it bigger, Nick.
	Can you control?
	No, hey.
	Huh?
	Wait, make it bigger.
	Can you scroll up, like make it one bigger?
	Scroll down just a tad?
	Scroll up just a tad?
	No?
	Eh, that's fine.
	All right, this is an empire here, okay?
	This is what I'm talking about.
	Build an empire.
	Okay.
	I've got my seven-figure a month job, and this is my stay-at-home girlfriend slash wife.
	This is some empire shit.
	Hold on.
	Watch the bow.
	Wait for the bow.
	Boom.
	Fuck.
	That's empire shit.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Whoops.
	You girls want to build an empire with a boyfriend?
	I don't want to do that.
	Let me see your bow.
	Show me the bow.
	Oh.
	Do I have to stand up?
	You got to stand up for the bow.
	Yeah, I've never done this before.
	You've never bowed?
	That was dog shit.
	How about you?
	No, you're not going to bow?
	You wouldn't bow to a dude?
	To my husband, for sure.
	I don't know if I would or not.
	I've never really been in that situation.
	Bruv.
	I don't want to bow on a podcast, though.
	Huh?
	I don't want to bow on a podcast, though.
	Rude.
	Just kidding.
	Sorry.
	Let's see.
	Okay, let's move on.
	We have McKenna.
	McKenna.
	You've provided some pre-show notes to us.
	Yes, I've had a lot of crazy situationships.
	Every time I try to leave, they blackmail me and stalk me.
	Yes.
	Every time?
	Most, yeah.
	Was it Lorenzo or Guillermo?
	Guillermo was in a situation shape, but he still hits me up, and it's so annoying.
	How did they blackmail you?
	One did, so one, oh, this is going to make me look so bad.
	So basically, I was like best friends with this guy.
	And I really liked his best friend, though.
	But the guy that I was best friends with, he...
	Should I give names?
	I feel like it's going to make it too confusing.
	We don't give names.
	Sure.
	You can make up names.
	Yeah, you can make up names.
	Okay.
	So the guy I was best friends with was Steve, but his friend Jeremy was the guy that I really liked.
	But Steve was really into me.
	And we were like best friends and everything.
	we would we would hang out like every day go hiking do stuff like that and then okay Okay, and then we started to do some, you know, some paraphernalia together.
	And that's when I hooked up with him.
	And then we kind of would keep hooking up.
	But I was also with Steve, but then I started hooking up with Jeremy too.
	But so then when I tried to stop being friends with Steve, he would basically tell me like, oh, if you leave me and stuff like that, I'm going to tell Jeremy that we're hooking up or we're doing drugs together and like all this stuff.
	I've also had, like, I've been, I feel like all the men I've been associated with have been so awful.
	But when I was in high school, I was situated with this drug dealer too.
	And he used to wait outside my house and he'd be like, oh, can I come over?
	And I'd be like, no, like my family hates you.
	Like, you can't come over.
	And he would just keep bugging me until he would finally be able to come in.
	And then I'd be like, yeah, fine, you can come.
	And then in like two seconds, he would just walk through my side gate.
	And I was like, how did you get here that fast?
	But this man was waiting outside my house until I said yes or no.
	Like most of the guys that I get situated with, and not just like one night stands, like that doesn't, that's not like a situation ship.
	But most guys that I get situated with were like, you know, I hang out with, I have sex with, I like, you know, eat like food with and stuff like that.
	And then like if I try to break things off, like the guy I used to film with, he literally just, he would keep texting me and asking me to hang out and everything.
	And I was like, no, dude, like, I don't want anything to do with you.
	And then when I was in dance class, he sent me a text and it was like, cutie.
	And I was like, what the hell?
	So I like scrolled down and like the scroll bar and everything.
	And then I was like, what the heck?
	So I opened it and then he sent me like clips of our sex tape together.
	And I was like, what the fuck, dude?
	Like, you do not need to do that.
	That's extra.
	Okay.
	But you said they blackmail you?
	One did.
	Yeah, just the one.
	Yeah.
	That sucks.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, it's pretty.
	That's why I'm also like, I don't date people and stuff because that already happens when I don't date people.
	And like, just imagine what would happen if I was actually in a relationship.
	Like, I feel like would it get abusive?
	Like, I don't know.
	Could it just be the guys you're dating?
	I think it is.
	I honestly, it probably is that too.
	What's your type?
	Let's go to the table.
	What's everybody's type?
	My type?
	Let's talk, let's do physical traits and then personality traits.
	Okay.
	I don't even know.
	Physical traits.
	I really love tattoos.
	Okay.
	I like curly hair.
	Oh, no.
	Wait, like the perm moth thing?
	Stop!
	what's that style called does that is that Does that have a nice name?
	I know what you're talking about.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Does that have a name?
	Can we Google, like, dudes with that dog shit?
	It's mostly Zoomers who have that.
	Mullet.
	No, it's not a mullet.
	No, it's not a mullet.
	I don't know what it is.
	It's like short on the sides, and they got the fucking spaghetti.
	It's what?
	The spaghetti?
	What's that stupid fucking haircut called?
	Sphetti.
	They got the fucking spaghetti.
	The fucking spaghetti haircut.
	I've never heard of this.
	The gabagoul.
	Come on.
	What's up?
	Who is a picture of this right now?
	Curly fade, maybe?
	It's like they got the, it's like.
	Isn't it called the spaghetti?
	There's no way it's called the spaghetti.
	I thought it was called the spaghetti.
	Why not?
	The ramen?
	Like the ramen noodle.
	It might be the noodle haircut.
	Hold on.
	Let me ask the chat.
	Chat, what's it called?
	Nick, do you have photos?
	Broccoli heads.
	The broccoli.
	No, it's the broccoli.
	The fuck is this?
	Yo, what the fuck ain't that?
	Okay, that's what it is.
	The broccoli.
	I think it's called the broccoli haircut.
	Is it the broccoli?
	I think it's the broccoli.
	The spaghetti.
	I never heard of it.
	The broccoli haircut.
	These fucking guys.
	They all got the same dumb fucking haircut.
	Oh, I see it right there.
	I fucking hate this haircut.
	It's just like a fade with really curly hair.
	The fade on the side.
	It's the broccoli.
	I think, Nick, no offense, you kind of got a fucking broccoli.
	But you don't have the curls, but you don't have the curls.
	You don't got, no, it's Nick.
	Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
	I don't think that.
	I don't like that.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so is that the kind of, I don't know why I'm not.
	I hooked up with a guy that had the hair for sure.
	Yeah, I was in a sister relationship with that.
	But I also, I like dark hair, I like brown hair.
	It has to be taller than me.
	I'm like 5'9, 5'8.
	How tall does the guy have to be?
	I would prefer taller than me and heels because I wear heels a lot, and that's just kind of embarrassing if he's like shorter than me.
	So what are we talking here?
	Six feet minimum?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or is that six feet too short for you?
	No, six feet is fine.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	And then what other physical personality?
	Okay, so I like my men very simple.
	Like, I feel like I'm a very high-maintenance.
	All the way to the table.
	Bender the offender donated $99.
	Mick, you chose an excellent costume.
	Brian is proud that you've chose to look like him to dress up as for Halloween.
	Yeah, Nick's actually dressed up as me for Halloween.
	So what else?
	But personality, I like my men very simple.
	I'm a very high-maintenance girl, so I like my low-maintenance guys.
	It's like.
	That's why I feel like every time I bring a guy around, I introduce him to my friends.
	My friends are like, McKenna, we see you with such a different kind of guy.
	And I'm like, yeah, but I'm like, that's kind of the guys that I like.
	And I feel so embarrassed that I like guys like that.
	What?
	Simple, low-maintenance guy?
	Yeah, just very simple.
	You said you dated a drug dealer.
	I didn't date him.
	I didn't date him.
	Oh, you fucked him experience.
	Yes, I fucked him explaining.
	That doesn't strike me as low maintenance to date a drug dealer.
	Well, that was also when I was like 17.
	I'm 21, though.
	Was that Namir?
	No, that was, that was Jeff.
	Jet.
	Yeah!
	Fucking Jet.
	I swear to God, you said it a little before me, but I was about to say Jet.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	Does that just sound like a drug dealer name?
	What?
	Huh?
	Does that sound like a drug dealer name?
	I don't know, that's just, it was like, I was looking in her eyes and I just knew it was Jet.
	Intuition.
	I just peered into her soul.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Through her eyeballs.
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	Personality-wise, what are we talking here?
	What's your type?
	Personality.
	I feel like everyone just says, like, oh, I like a really funny guy.
	I don't really know for personality.
	Do you like a guy who treats you like shit?
	Pretty fucking much.
	I swear, like, girls, they do not like good guys.
	Like, only some girls do.
	But, like, most girls, like, they'll be like, oh, if this guy treats me right, they're like, no, that's not it.
	That's not what I want.
	Like, I want a guy who treats me like shit.
	Like, they like that toxicity.
	And I kind of do.
	I'm trying to get away from it.
	You like toxic guys?
	Literally, the drug dealer was toxic.
	What do you think about, can I set you up with Nick?
	Mick, sorry, so sorry.
	Can I set you up with Mick?
	Mick?
	Oh, my goodness.
	so toxic he's like super Super toxic.
	He doesn't seem toxic.
	He seems very sweet.
	Nick, would you date?
	Would you date her?
	Oh, wait, so she does.
	Yeah, I was about to say.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	She's very beautiful, I will say that.
	Thank you.
	He does like, are you a natural redhead?
	Yeah.
	Wait, Keeley was not...
	Was she real redhead?
	Uh, she...
	She had kind of brownish hair, but ever since I was like six years old, I always had a thing for redheads.
	That's kind of weird.
	So Haley died.
	Sloorely, I think.
	Slow early.
	Keely died at red to fulfill your young childhood fantasy.
	What the fuck, Nick?
	Yeah.
	I mean, when you were six, you weren't attracted to girls like you.
	Bro, I was like playing handball and shit.
	I was doing skin, what are they called?
	Skitters?
	Skinners?
	And watermelons and shit, son.
	I wasn't.
	I was like fucking demolishing these chicks on the handball court.
	I didn't give a fuck about dating these chicks.
	I wanted to fuck people up at handball, son.
	I don't know.
	What were they called?
	Skidders?
	Chat?
	Were they skidders?
	Do you know what I mean?
	The skitters.
	Remember, chat, handball?
	Were they the skidders?
	You know, where they were like, here's the wall, right?
	And it's like slicies, skidders, skitters.
	I don't know.
	Handball?
	Skeeters?
	Handball, son.
	You know the game with the wall?
	There's the wall, and you hit the ball.
	I think it's ballball.
	Not tetherball, dude.
	Wall ball.
	Yeah, wall ball.
	No, we called it handball in my day.
	Oh, there's the big wall.
	It's tall.
	A tall wall.
	Hit the ball.
	We caught that handball.
	That's wall ball.
	Excuse me.
	I said that.
	I was playing.
	We called it handball.
	I mean, same thing.
	Handball, wall ball.
	It makes sense.
	You're hitting it with your hand.
	Wall ball, excuse me.
	Wall ball.
	But there were, remember, there were watermelons and waterfalls.
	You need to re-familiarize yourself with the wife hack.
	The danger zone is the group with the redheads.
	Strippers, girls named Tiffany.
	You end up getting your stuff burned, your car keyed.
	Stay away.
	Yeah, avoid Tiffany's for sure.
	Really?
	Is that a thing?
	Huge red flag.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	You've been with the girlfriend?
	Almost as much of a red flag as a girl named McKenna.
	Anyways, moving on.
	Just kidding.
	I'm just kidding.
	What about you?
	What's your type?
	So, tattoos, double points if they have a face tattoo.
	Double points if they have a face tattoo.
	Yeah.
	Big lips.
	Big lips.
	I like guys that wear.
	You like.
	Big lips.
	Is that weird?
	No, that's fine.
	Go ahead.
	I like guys that wear like Rick Owens and Palms Angels.
	That wear what?
	Rick Owens and Palm Angels.
	It's very specific.
	You don't know what that is?
	Who the fuck is that?
	It's a clothing.
	They're like clothing brands.
	Rick Owens is expensive, girl.
	Okay, so yeah, they gotta be fashionable.
	Personality.
	Irresponsible with their money.
	Got it.
	Personality.
	They work hard.
	Work hard.
	Make me laugh.
	Makes you laugh.
	They also aren't like super like, oh, we have to be out all the time.
	Like, they can be like super chill and like introverted, I guess.
	Like an in-between.
	Face tattoo.
	My boyfriend has a face tattoo.
	A little tiny one.
	Introverted with a face tattoo.
	Oh, no, he's not super introverted, though.
	But it would be tough.
	Like, for how.
	Is he a SoundCloud rapper?
	No, he's actually a barber.
	Oh.
	He works really hard.
	He's very talented.
	He looks respectable.
	Yeah, no.
	He works really hard.
	I think all the barbers at his shop have face tattoos, to be honest.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	What about you?
	Yeah, that's mine.
	Brown eyes, tan, dark skin, dark hair.
	Brown eyes.
	Brown eyes.
	I love brown eyes.
	Personality traits?
	I think we went over it.
	Like ambitious, kind of stern.
	I kind of like somebody who's a little bit preachy, like has a lot of opinions.
	I like that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So.
	Here, wait, can you scoot your microphone to the left?
	Yeah, perfect.
	Can you scoot yours in, please?
	Can you scoot yours in?
	Yeah, that's good.
	So, I don't have any looks or height or weight requirement.
	Oh, I mean, if you look at my lineup, you'll see my lineup of my relationship.
	You were just dating dwarf, obese, obese dwarves.
	I mean, not in that order, but yeah, I've dated, my daddy dated the dwarfs.
	My baby daddy's significantly shorter than me.
	Really?
	Yes, and Hispanic.
	And then I've dated seven foot tall.
	I've dated people that people are like, What the hell are you doing?
	How tall are you?
	Five four.
	Five four?
	How tall was your baby daddy?
	Five one.
	He's five one.
	Five foot.
	Good for you.
	I'm proud of you.
	I'm proud.
	Well, because I date for the human experience.
	For the human experience.
	Yeah.
	What if they have a small pen?
	That's cool too.
	I also have the curse.
	That's what my friend.
	I only meet men with small penises.
	So I've only probably maybe had like one, maybe two or three that have been on the larger side.
	But other than that, that's just my bad luck because it's my curse.
	So that's obviously not a problem.
	You don't mind if they.
	How do you know?
	Sometimes you don't until you do.
	All right, that's fine.
	Yeah, so my lineup makes no sense.
	I guess if I'm really like trying to pinpoint what attracts me, it's definitely ambition and drive.
	And ambition is not just like, oh, they know what they want or they want to start a business because like you kind of got to be the person at the seat of shark tank, you know?
	Like there's these guys or women who like have all these ideas of, oh, I want to do this and I want to do that.
	And they can seem very ambitious, but the ones that actually have the discipline to like take off with those ideas is really what's important.
	So what you think can be ambitious isn't always ambitious.
	So that was my problem in the past was that I dated people who were like on the brink of maybe like being famous in sports or starting their own business or doing whatever.
	And the discipline didn't really back that.
	So that never really ended up being a thing.
	And then that's where I kind of fall off because I'm an entrepreneur.
	So I own companies.
	So if I see even a little bit of weakness in that area where you're saying you're going to do something, but you're not.
	But you're not doing that, that turns me off very quickly.
	Okay.
	I know an obese dwarf I'd like to set you up with if you're.
	You said you're single, right?
	Are you?
	Right.
	Could I make the connection?
	Remember, the G-spot is only two inches inside the blank.
	As long as he's got that, he's in the game.
	Hashtag shortkings, hashtag size queens.
	Okay, good talk.
	What about you?
	For me, physically, I do want someone to talk to me, but I don't think I really go for looks that much.
	Well, if I like you, I like you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I also like a guy who's fit as well.
	He could be a little chubby, but as long as you're working on it.
	I like a man who has goals and ambition and who's willing to grow.
	Yeah.
	Grow together.
	Grow together.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Build a foundation.
	Would you allow a guy to come in and manage your OOF and he takes 50%?
	Like a pimp?
	Like if he was like my boyfriend?
	I guess.
	I think a boyfriend would be different.
	I don't know, because I mean, I think I'd say.
	That's grown together, right?
	You're growing the OnlyFans together.
	Or is he making her 50% more?
	And also, does he know what he's doing?
	Yeah, is he leading or is he just like, I want half the cut?
	Because that's the difference right there.
	They're both pretty based, though, not going to lie.
	Whether he helps you or not, like if he comes in, he's just like, I'm just, I want 50%.
	I'll give a cup.
	That's even more gangster than, like, oh, babe, let me help you.
	I'll give a cup.
	That's more gangster, huh?
	I'll give a cup.
	Only if he's like making content with you.
	Yeah, like, especially, it depends on your subscriber count.
	Like, for him to be able to run it, like, you need like three chatters on there.
	If, Mick, when you and McKenna start dating, you're taking you're letting Mick take 50%, right?
	If he's fucking me on camera, really?
	Yes.
	Hold up, Mick.
	Hold up.
	You got a business deal over here.
	And you know, the great, you know, Mick has a track record of sick.
	What happened to Free Mix, Kay?
	Of spooks.
	What happened if dating women?
	He's very supportive.
	You play the guitar, right?
	Yes.
	I love you.
	He will serenade you.
	Mick will fucking.
	What you play?
	Do you know Wonder Wall?
	Can you play Wonder Wall?
	Do you have your fucking guitar?
	Did you bring your guitar, Nick?
	There is.
	Sorry, Mick.
	It's in the car, but no, it's in the car.
	It's just GCD.
	It's like a basic pop song.
	How good?
	Are you like a virtuoso at guitar?
	No, I'm not a virtuoso.
	But could you, but I can play what I play very well.
	Like, have you ever gone to like a college party and just been in the corner?
	Like, uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	And all the chicks are like, oh, my God, he's so creative.
	No, I have a lot of gear.
	I'm really into like rock, guitar, and solos.
	I'm a big fan of Hendrix.
	I like Hendrix.
	I like Gilmore and stuff, but I'm, yeah, I can solo like those guys.
	Like, Hendrix was my first inspiration to start guitar soloing and stuff.
	But no, I'm not as good as Hendrix, you know, by any means.
	That's not going to have a bar.
	No, I can sound like him, but never beat him.
	Right.
	What's your type?
	What's your type?
	I'll say to be cliche tall.
	Taller than me, at least.
	I like to feel teeny tiny.
	And then.
	She likes him.
	As far as personality-wise, I like somebody that can tell me what they believe in because nowadays a lot of people just do not know what they believe, whether it's morals or religion or really anything.
	So, and then on top of it, just passionate about something in life.
	Something.
	I don't really care what, but as long as you're passionate about it and have more to a day than just me.
	What if they've been like a corporate drone for 10 years and they work IT and they just do it for the money?
	Well, of course they do it for the money, but sounds like there's not really passion there then.
	They're just dead behind the eyes, you know what I mean?
	They just sit there with their IT work.
	I'm sorry.
	It's a tough crowd tonight.
	Tough crowd.
	Okay, Mick, what's your type?
	Besides malignant narcissists.
	He likes me toxic.
	Do you like toxic women, Mick?
	I like women who are.
	I like women who are maybe a little mean to me, yeah.
	But I think I'm...
	What the fuck?
	Wait, can Maddie slap you right now across the face?
	Would you kind of be into that?
	I don't know if I'm into pain.
	I heard you're about to say petitium.
	Well, no.
	Haley did hit me a few times.
	She did definitely do that.
	She hit, huh?
	She hit me a few times.
	She accused you?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	This girl is like hopefully.
	Like, just because she would be upset with me or think I did something bad.
	So she'd like.
	And then she'd like, if I was talking to another girl or something, you know, she would.
	Other guys?
	Yeah, but if I talked to another girl, like if I talked to the waitress and just asked her how her day was going at like a restaurant, she would hit me in the car because she would be like, That's you can't be, you know, talking to this other girl and stuff.
	But no, I really should be with someone that's nicer to me from now on.
	But no, I like femininity, like a girl that wears dresses, is short and petite and cute, you know, likes to go for walks and because I walk a lot and loves animals and good personal hygiene, sweet and caring, you know.
	That would be nice.
	Someone that likes to, you know, wrap a blanket around and have a fire.
	Burrito.
	Romantic.
	That sounds nice.
	I like that.
	That sounds kind of a word I can't say on YouTube, Mick.
	That sounds like a word I can't say on YouTube.
	Never mind.
	I mean, a girl that likes to travel a lot too, because I plan on traveling a lot, so you know.
	Bro, you just need to.
	I don't really advise men to be promiscuous.
	Like, I don't recommend men being promiscuous, Mick, but I feel like you just gotta fuck like 30 chicks, dude.
	Like, that's not my typical go-to advice, but Mick, you just need to fuck a bunch of chicks.
	I definitely need a redbound for sure.
	Is that degenerate?
	Is that degenerate?
	Is that degenerate advice?
	I'm sorry.
	I feel like, Mick, you gotta stamp it off.
	I need you to, you know what I mean?
	To like boost my confidence or something.
	Chat, what do you think?
	Figure out what you like.
	Exactly.
	Forget about that abusive person.
	Yeah.
	Not part.
	Mick is a hopeless.
	Hopeless romantic is what they're talking about.
	Mick was wondering what the hell that was.
	I mean, the only problem is what you've said with the statistics here.
	Like, it's so much easier if I go on like Tinder.
	I'm only going to meet with 1% of women on there.
	But women could meet with every guy.
	So that's the problem.
	That's what we call slam pigs, Mick.
	Yeah.
	Wear a conversation.
	Sorry, I'm sorry.
	Or like, or I'll have to set my standards so low it'll be like, you know, like someone I'm not really attracted to.
	And like, you know.
	Sometimes you got to take a grenade, son.
	Yeah.
	Is that what that is?
	You need to take a grenade.
	That's like some old school.
	All right.
	Where we were talking about types.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Did we get to Madison?
	What's your type, Madison?
	My type physically is.
	Yeah.
	Brown eyes, brown hair.
	I like someone who's physically fit personality-wise.
	I like someone who's nice, respectful.
	I like being treated like a princess.
	I like someone who's strong-willed, like in their occupation or whatever, because I do want to be like a stay-at-home mom, focus on the child.
	Someone who's confident but humble about it.
	And word.
	Okay, I'll go through my long-ass list, I guess.
	Any race is fine.
	Slight preference for white women or Asian women.
	Slightly awkward Asian women.
	If they've done the cello for three years, that's like huge.
	I'll accept it.
	I'll accept a violin.
	I'll accept a violin.
	Piano is kind of like meh, but whatever.
	Slight preference for like petite women.
	Like if you're 5'2, that's way too tall for me.
	Kind of joking, but I'll date a woman.
	I'll date a woman who's taller than me.
	Don't give a fuck.
	Height's not real deal breaker.
	No plastic surgery, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.
	Like, give me an A-cup over a girl who is, sorry, give me an A-cup or even a girl who's flat over fake tits.
	Minimal makeup or no makeup, large labia.
	That's big labia matter.
	Scroll up a little bit so we can see the follow my Instagram.
	What?
	Is that real or are you just trying to market your own companies right now?
	No, that's 100%.
	This is a non-profit.
	No, I know it's your cost, but is that your preference?
	What?
	Tax exempt, what?
	Is that really your preference?
	For big labia?
	Yeah.
	You rocking or what's up?
	Yeah, it is.
	No, it is.
	I like large.
	Listen, women have a penis size preference.
	I can have a labia preference.
	That's perfectly fine.
	So ladies, don't get labia plasty.
	You want to reveal something?
	You want to tell the table something?
	I just don't reveal it.
	It's not like I don't believe it.
	You don't believe me.
	No.
	I wish you could show us an example.
	Because I would love to see.
	Show us the video.
	I would.
	Or a reason.
	It's like a flower opening up.
	So like a sandwich?
	Like a butterfly wing.
	Yeah.
	You could, I don't like to, you know, as somebody who's an advocate for women with large labias, I don't like to make meat references, but you could say like an Arby's sandwich.
	Subway.
	I'm definitely not a vegan.
	Subway's great.
	They have great sandwiches.
	I don't eat pusway.
	They have pretty sandwiches.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't eat.
	I don't eat pussy.
	What?
	What?
	Are you being serious?
	But you would want a girl to give you a blowjob for sure, right?
	He's particular.
	Wait, what's your zodiac sign?
	If she doesn't want to, it's not a big deal.
	Okay.
	Like, I'm not bent out of shape, but yeah, I just, I don't really like to go to Chow Town.
	Go to Chow Town.
	Yeah, I could go to Poundtown.
	He wants to go to Chowtown.
	He doesn't want to go to Chow.
	Towntown's okay.
	Chow.
	Chow Town.
	Not so much.
	Go eat.
	Nope.
	So what does 30 years of marriage look like with you?
	Just straight poundtown.
	That's it.
	You're not going to ever.
	I'm not married.
	No, I know, but I'm saying like for your future, yes, like sleeping with the same person for an extended period of time.
	Like you're just going to have sex.
	If I'm on my deathbed, maybe.
	Maybe you'll eat pussy on my deathbed?
	Yes.
	Why on your deathbed?
	Because I'm about to die.
	I might as well, I guess.
	You know?
	I'm a nice guy.
	I would do that for my girlfriend or wife.
	For like a one last time, like I'm dying.
	I'm going to eat it.
	Or the nurse who's taking care of me.
	I'm on my deathbed.
	I'm in hospice care.
	Hey, nurse.
	I would probably be the worst.
	Like in hospice.
	I'd just be hitting on all the nurses.
	Oh, that's funny.
	I need to eat some pussy before I die.
	Even though I don't eat pussy.
	But first, how big is your labia?
	Yeah, you gotta check out the labia.
	That's very important.
	You have to ask them.
	If the labia is not clacking, then I'm not smacking.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	No, it makes a lot of sense.
	Yeah, I'm just not.
	Listen, it's never been my thing.
	I tried it a couple times.
	Wasn't for you.
	Wasn't for me.
	The last time I did it was the Bush administration.
	07, 08-ish.
	It's been a while.
	Maybe you should try it again.
	I'm okay.
	You can go back on the game.
	There's a lot of lasered labias.
	Lasers?
	Yeah.
	That's a hair removal.
	It's not about the hair.
	It ain't about the hair.
	It's just the hair.
	It could be about the hair.
	You don't have to.
	But it's not about the hair.
	Okay.
	But if there's hair, it's already, it could be bare.
	No.
	You still disappear.
	Still wouldn't.
	Did it stink?
	Is that why you didn't like it?
	But no.
	Does it stink?
	No, did it stink?
	That's why you didn't want to do it anymore.
	It wasn't really like, look, sometimes there can be an odor, but it wasn't even about that.
	It's just.
	You know what it was?
	I read an article about who's that guy who's the father of Charlie Sheen?
	What's his name?
	Michael.
	Who's wait, chat?
	Hello?
	Who's Charlie Sheen's dad?
	Or who's the somebody got some famous actor got throat cancer from eating pussy?
	Oh, HPV.
	Yeah, HPV.
	Yeah.
	Michael Douglas, I think it was.
	I think, did Mike, was it Michael Douglas?
	So the girl must have had HPV and gave it to him.
	Was it Michael Douglas?
	One of these guys got throat cancer from eating pussy.
	And ever since then, I learned about that shit early on.
	I was like.
	Yeah.
	I never heard that.
	Suddenly you're not hungry.
	You never know.
	The more you try something, the more you like it.
	You know, I got neck problems.
	Oh, my God.
	I got neck problems.
	The other thing is, definitely a hundred.
	I mean, I have, again, I haven't done it since 2007, 2008 or something.
	Crap.
	Yeah.
	The other thing is, definitely you can't do it.
	My advice to men: look, if you want to eat pussy, eat pussy.
	You can't do that shit in a one-night stand.
	Oh, absolutely not.
	You can't do that unless the girl is like, you fucking know she's loyal to you.
	You can't eat pussy.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I don't think you should be allowed to tell men when they should eat pussy when you haven't eaten pussy since 2008.
	I'm very much allowed to tell men.
	I wouldn't stretch it up on a one-night stand, so I back your statement.
	Like.
	Look, here's the thing.
	Like, people be fucking.
	A lot of people be fucking.
	And I'm not trying to, like, go down on a chick that just got fucked by another dude yesterday.
	That's how people move in the dating marketplace in 2023.
	Sorry.
	Well, that's true, but you said not at all.
	You said not too much.
	You said 2008.
	That's true.
	Can we count that?
	How far back are we going to do that?
	15, 16.
	So it's almost been two decades.
	Yeah.
	That's a long time.
	The internet wasn't even invented.
	No, I'm kidding.
	This was my space era.
	Like, Facebook was just getting started.
	That's the last time I ate some pussy.
	I almost wish I kind of regret, you know, like, I wish I could just say I've never eaten pussy.
	But then you wouldn't try it.
	Or somebody would make you try.
	No, I just wish I could claim that I'm never eating pussy.
	I've never got it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	If a girl doesn't want to suck dick, that's fine, too.
	That's her call.
	It seems to be the case, though, that women get bent out of shape, though, when men say they don't eat pussy.
	They do.
	Because it's not fair.
	Why is not fair?
	Look, I already said.
	I'm not a sucking dick.
	Well, I don't think it has to be tit for tat.
	Like, a girl could still enjoy sucking dick.
	Does girls enjoy sucking dick?
	Do you?
	There are women who need to.
	It's not just that they enjoy it.
	They need to suck the dick.
	I'm a giver.
	I'm not a receiver.
	Honestly, I'd prefer if a guy doesn't eat me out.
	I don't like it.
	They're bad at it.
	Some guys.
	She does.
	Only fans, though.
	That's based.
	Based.
	So no classic syrup.
	Tell me how you really feel.
	Tell me how you really feel.
	About what specifically?
	About the not eating pussy for two decades.
	You can feel however you want to feel, but you should definitely include that in your first date.
	Yeah, I should tell the woman that needs to be like your second sentence.
	Like, hi, my name's Brian.
	I don't eat.
	I don't eat pissy.
	I say it on the show.
	I do not eat pissy.
	But other than that, to each his own.
	Yeah, that way they know.
	A lot of girls don't suck dicks.
	You know what?
	I would be willing.
	I would be willing to say that if the women on the date say, here's my body count.
	So does body count matter a lot to you?
	Huge.
	Okay.
	Very important.
	Okay.
	What's a good one?
	What's like your range?
	What's a good number?
	What's a good range?
	Well, you know, that's not, you know, I don't want to.
	It depends on their age, right?
	Age is a factor, but, you know.
	Chase gave like the.
	I believe in redemption, though.
	You can redeem, not really, but you can kind of redeem yourself.
	What was the statistics?
	It was on your podcast where I heard it.
	Like in marriage.
	Here, I'll say this: virgin is ideal.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't eat pussy.
	Virgin is ideal.
	We got a good luck out there, man.
	Yeah, you got to start looking.
	Good luck out there.
	I'm rooting for you.
	Thank you.
	You're going to be searching the seven seas.
	It's not that hard to be honest.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Is it not?
	I feel like those are.
	I mean, it's hard for people without those restrictions.
	So if a girl was honest about her body count, I would be honest about not eating pussy.
	Okay.
	There's girls that don't suck dick.
	It's all good.
	It's better if she does, though.
	It's better if she does.
	But it's okay if she doesn't.
	It's okay if she doesn't, but it's better if she doesn't.
	What if a girl can't cook?
	I mean, it's better if she does.
	You can learn how to cook.
	I just started learning how to cook.
	Honestly, I don't give a honestly, this is going to be one of my ridiculous takes.
	I'm slightly paranoid.
	So when it comes to women cooking, I always feel like I'll be dating a girl and she'll eventually start to hate me and then poison me.
	So I'd much rather my are you a hatable person?
	Am I hateable?
	Yeah.
	Sounds paranoid.
	Huh?
	Are you?
	No, but I'm not kidding when I say this.
	Like a girl will like bring me over a smoothie or like food or whatever.
	You're scared.
	And I'm like, this bitch might try to poison me.
	Okay, let's thrill this back for a second.
	So don't eat pussy because you're scared of getting throat cancer and you won't let a girl cook for you because she's going to poison you.
	I'm sensing like a deep-rooted problem going on.
	Something beyond the pussy.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm just saying.
	I've watched too much crime shit.
	It's within the realm of possibility that some chick could try to poison me.
	I got enemies.
	I got ops.
	Some girl slides into my DMs.
	Ah, Brian, I got a big labia.
	I'm 4'11.
	Let me take you on the date.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, babe, come over.
	Boom.
	Oh, Brian.
	And then, like, two months down the road, she brings over some rice.
	You didn't want to pay for it.
	And that rice has grown.
	I don't know if you guys know about rice, son.
	Rice can grow really dangerous bacteria that will fuck you up.
	I think I saw this happen to a spaghetti recently.
	It kills me.
	No, I'm giving people ideas now.
	Shit.
	They left it in.
	Here, let me ask the chat.
	Chat, Let me ask you guys.
	Has a girl ever brought you over food or a smoothie or something?
	Did it never cross your mind that, like, should I eat?
	Like, what if she tries to poison?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, this is just normal human being shit.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it crosses your mind like, what if, do you know what I mean?
	Has it ever chatted cross your mind like your girlfriend brings you over some food?
	I don't think you're gonna get much feedback on this over here.
	I'm sorry.
	Wouldn't you be more worried about Chipotle?
	Yeah.
	Chipotle has killed like a few dozen people too.
	I am.
	I still eat Chipotle.
	I like Chipotle.
	What was your thing?
	What was the thing?
	What?
	What I said earlier?
	Wait, question for you, though.
	You have two kids.
	When you go on a date with a guy, do you tell them that you have kids?
	Yes.
	You make it very clear because I've on dating apps because I try not to put as much information.
	But the moment I start talking to you, I'm going to tell you.
	That's going to be like one of my favorite.
	What do you mean the moment?
	Like if it goes from like a match to like a DM, then one of my first few sentences will include the fact that I've because some women on dating apps will put in their bio and they'll wait.
	I've had girls on the date tell me they have kids.
	I feel like you should be more upfront.
	You should do it before.
	You should be upfront.
	When it comes to not eating pussy, that's like you can wait three months to tell her that.
	No, no.
	You want her to fall in love first if she's stuck.
	Wait, can you scoot the mic?
	Oh, skip it back.
	No, scoot it.
	I don't see why you would hide it, but also I don't see why you would lead with it either.
	I feel like you'll never know.
	She'll just know.
	She'll just know.
	Because you'll just never do it.
	You don't even have to tell her.
	Well, no, I would.
	What if she just walks in and sits on your face?
	Then what?
	I would never.
	I would never.
	That would be like very emasculating.
	I'd never let a girl just walk in and sit on my face.
	Could you imagine that?
	Like a girl just walks in.
	She tries to get away from me.
	Here's the thing, though.
	If I did eat pussy, that's not the position that I'm eating your pussy in.
	Why not?
	No, that's way too, that's way too, she's like, that's like her doming me.
	I'm not letting a girl dom me.
	No.
	I'm like, so I have a few.
	If you love her and you're going to marry her with her.
	Wait, did you let fucking Keely sit on your fucking face, Mick?
	I actually never did that with her.
	High five, dude.
	Thank you for you.
	But did you eat it from the back?
	I did eat.
	Talk her out a few times.
	You eat her pussy while she's like face down ass up.
	Yeah, like that.
	But never sitting on my face.
	I've never had a girl sit on my face.
	I'm just saying, like, if you loved her, I would see like, like, if she's like your wife or something, I could see like being like, yeah, I'll do it just to make you feel good, honey, or whatever.
	Just to make you feel good, honey.
	Because I love you.
	Even if it makes you feel good.
	Even if I was inclined to eat pussy, sitting on the face, that's a no-go.
	Absolutely not.
	Gentlemen, don't.
	You can't stop them, though.
	Like, what if they just do that?
	Men love it.
	Men initiate it.
	They're like straight.
	What?
	Yeah, fuck.
	They love it.
	I swear.
	Wait, I have a question.
	So let's say you're talking to someone and it's like been a few months, like six months.
	You're still not going to eat it.
	No.
	No.
	He doesn't eat.
	I've had long, multiple long-term.
	I'm talking five-year, I dated a girl for two years, one year, nine months.
	The pussy was never eaten.
	The pussy was never eaten.
	How's it getting eaten by somebody, though?
	I'm playing.
	I'm playing.
	No, like, look, I tried to upload.
	I'm playing.
	I'm not upset.
	I'm not, I'm not.
	But I'm very much into, like, I want to please my girlfriend.
	Like, and look, some girls, it's hard to make them come what you do, even if you're using, like, toys.
	Some girls, it's hard to make them come, even with, like, the help of toys, right?
	So, but, I mean, my goal, I will try to, I want my partner to come, preferably before me.
	Yeah, that's it.
	It feels good for me for her to come.
	So I'm always trying to, like, I would like to make my girl comfortable.
	It's not a beard.
	Sometimes it's hard, though.
	Sometimes it's hard.
	Sometimes it's hard.
	Have I thoroughly triggered you guys with the no pussy eating?
	Yeah.
	Is that the deal breaker for you?
	Let's go around the table.
	Is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
	Well, sometimes, yeah, I guess.
	Yeah.
	But I like to, I'm very much a giver, though.
	Like, I love to give heads.
	So.
	So it's not a deal breaker for you.
	It sounds like you don't like it from what you're doing.
	I don't really like it, but then sometimes it does sound good, but then I just get disappointed once they get down there.
	Yeah, because they don't do it, right?
	They don't.
	And like, I'll try to tell them they just don't.
	And it's kind of disappointing, too.
	I'm like, how do you not know how to do it?
	Here's the crazy thing.
	I'm fucking great at giving head, but I don't do it.
	How do you know?
	That's so fucking good.
	I haven't done it in nearly two decades.
	How do you know?
	Trust.
	Trust me.
	Was she in square roads?
	It just goes everywhere all over your face.
	No, I just know.
	I just fucking know.
	Did she wear the beard or what?
	I didn't have a beard back then.
	I just know.
	So maybe there's like just such a special woman.
	Such a special woman will be able to convince me to do it.
	Maybe you'll find your virgin.
	Like a virgin.
	She shouldn't have to convince you.
	It should be like animalistic.
	It should be like a drink.
	But it's only for certain people.
	You don't want to do it.
	You don't want to do it.
	That's okay.
	Deal breaker for a deal breaker.
	Is it a deal breaker for you?
	No, but I'm not going to reciprocate head, if that's how it's going to be.
	I like foreplay a lot, so like oral is foreplay for me.
	Okay, good talk.
	Yeah, good talk.
	I don't like when somebody goes down on me, so I don't, I prefer if they don't do it.
	Yes.
	There you go.
	That's awesome.
	Based.
	What about you?
	I feel like internally I would kind of make it a challenge.
	Like I would like reciprocate that even if it wasn't being done to me enough to where I would think that maybe the other person would want to do that.
	But in the case of like you, if I met someone like you who was just like, oh no, I absolutely don't do that.
	I guess they would have to bring a lot to the table for me to be able to overlook something like that.
	But you say you have two kids, right?
	Couldn't you say that it's sort of like the same thing with you?
	What do you mean?
	Well, you said a guy who doesn't give head, he has to bring a lot more to the table in other ways to make up for the fact.
	Do you feel that way with kids?
	Oh yeah, totally.
	I mean, I know because I have children that that automatically makes certain men not want to date me.
	So, I mean, that's just kind of a given.
	So maybe the trade-off is I have kids.
	He doesn't give head.
	No, there's other trade-offs.
	That's not going to be a good idea.
	You're not willing to make that trade-off.
	Not that one, no.
	I'm not willing to make that trade-off.
	Because there's people that are okay with me having kids that'll still do that.
	That's true.
	That is true.
	I'm just saying.
	I wonder what's more of a deal breaker, not going down on a woman or having kids.
	Going down.
	And it's not really the going down part.
	It's more of the like, I don't do that.
	Yes, because I feel like that trickles down to a lot of other parts of the world.
	Pussy's amazing.
	Pussy's beautiful.
	But when it comes to my mouth, I'm going to pass on it.
	Pussy's great, though.
	Love.
	I'm a big fan of pussy.
	Pussy's beautiful.
	I like large labia.
	I'm an advocate for women.
	I'm a feminist, basically.
	Basically.
	I'm basically a feminist.
	I advocate for women.
	Pretty much.
	Big labia matter.
	BLM in the chat.
	There you have it, folks.
	So funny.
	Instead of comparing a guy doesn't go down on a girl to a girl or girl having kids, why don't you just compare a girl going down on a guy to a guy going down on a girl?
	Because I'm autistic.
	Are you actually?
	Probably.
	What about you?
	Yeah, that's a deal breaker for sure.
	Because I'm going to need you to go down there.
	Hear that I'm going to go down down there and then work your stuff.
	Did y'all hear that?
	Don't let her.
	We're not letting you off the hook.
	Don't.
	Look at.
	What did she say?
	She oinked.
	Yo, pig emojis in the chat.
	Pig emojis in the chat.
	Let's hear it.
	She oinked.
	She snorted.
	Little snort.
	Pig emojis in the chat.
	Okay.
	So deal breaker for you.
	Is it a deal breaker for you?
	If someone really checked all my other boxes, going down is that'd be fine if they didn't.
	Based.
	And then the pigs.
	Mick.
	Wait.
	Mick?
	Keely only gave me a blowjob once and it was for my birthday.
	What?
	That's so sad.
	And it was not very good because she doesn't know how to give a good one because she uses a lot of teeth.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	I would like.
	Wait, wait, mick.
	But I'm glad.
	I got something for this.
	I got something for this.
	She was the mouth that got away.
	So I don't, I mean, I would like to get a good blowjob, but I mean, I think every guy wants a good blowjob, but it's not necessary.
	I mean, you know.
	Because, I mean, as long as we're just having, you know, passionate missionary sex, you know, fuck.
	Passionate missionary sex.
	Those two words not bad.
	That's the wrong show, dude.
	They could go together.
	I feel like more guys think it's a deal breaker than girls do.
	You ain't never put her on doggy.
	Doggy is like if you're trying to be really dominant, you know.
	I like doggy.
	I like doggy, too.
	But she didn't like that either, so, you know.
	L Keely in the chat.
	Yeah.
	What else?
	Let's see.
	How did we get to the moral sister?
	Wait, what?
	You said something about it.
	I feel like guys, it's bigger.
	It's a bigger deal breaker for guys than it is for girls.
	Yeah, usually.
	Don't go down on each other.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Yeah, guys, like, yeah.
	Well, let's be real here.
	It's obviously different.
	It's obviously eating pussy versus sucking dick.
	It's different.
	So how dick could possibly be how?
	Well, anatomically, it's just objectively different.
	So circumcised or uncircumcised because that really depends on what that might be.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah.
	If you're talking about uncircumcised, it's the same as eating pussy.
	I heard they are the same.
	Because you got to get in the skin.
	That's not true.
	I've seen it uncircumcised.
	Men who are not circumcised can observe good hygiene.
	So can women, but that doesn't mean they don't, their pH isn't off, or it's a part of your body that's unexposed to airflow.
	So you can clean yourself in the beginning of the morning, but if you eat like shit, you treat your body like shit, you're going to smell like shit.
	Have you sucked an uncircumcised penis before?
	No, but maybe you have.
	Have you?
	Sounds like it.
	Have you?
	I've been in a relationship with people who are uncircumcised.
	Was it the dwarf guy?
	No.
	Or was it the obese one?
	It's not dwarf.
	It's just shorter.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Okay, well, technically.
	Little guy.
	If you're four foot something, you're technically a dwarf.
	It's different, though.
	Watch, check this out.
	I can just, okay.
	Let's say I have sex with a girl.
	And then I take a shower.
	Good is new.
	No.
	No.
	What do you mean?
	That's not true.
	Like, what if you're on this TD?
	You're not good at it.
	No, no, no, no.
	But we're not even talking STDs here.
	However, we could talk about that too.
	If a guy, let's say a guy comes inside a girl, that shit kind of lingers.
	Does it?
	Yeah.
	And also, as women, I mean, I don't know if you guys are.
	My understanding, you're not supposed to douche internally.
	So you don't really have a procedure with which to clean it up.
	Because it cleans itself out.
	But you don't literally, when you're eating pussy, like you're not sticking your tongue inside their pussy.
	It's like most guys do.
	I gotta stick around.
	Okay, well.
	I mean, you could get around that.
	You could just do the top.
	The clip, right?
	That's out of our energy.
	That's proximity.
	It's proximity.
	And if there's lubricants, but the wetness spreads to other areas of the pussy.
	And it's the proximity.
	I'm just saying it's different.
	Okay, I have to.
	I agree.
	It is different.
	It's different.
	Because it's wet.
	Also, this vagina is wet really quickly.
	There's blood that comes out once a month.
	Oh, I was about to say what?
	Yeah, once a month.
	We don't.
	There's no blood coming out of our.
	But I do have to say something.
	It doesn't matter what you guys eat.
	Please tell us.
	It does matter what you guys eat because some guys come, he tastes like battery acid.
	That's like nasty.
	You think it's the water if they don't drink water?
	It has to be something, girl, because somewhere there is enough.
	Okay, let's move on.
	The chat is deeply disappointed.
	Yeah, they're like, what is happening?
	With this haram conversation.
	Let's see, where were we?
	We were on McKenna, I think.
	Yeah.
	McKenna.
	Is that your real name or your stripper name?
	No, I'm not a stripper.
	No, I know, but like you can, like, I could obviously.
	I do have a stage name, but yeah, my name's McKenna.
	Yeah.
	Oh, so you do have a stage name?
	Yeah, Stella Lux.
	Stella Lux?
	How many X's are there in the just one?
	One.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You said I would like to talk about situationships and how guys get really attached, especially when you play games or are rude to them.
	Make it easy.
	We literally just talk about that.
	Yeah.
	So what games do you play and how are you rude to them?
	I play a lot of games.
	So one thing that I do that I love to get a rise out of guys is I'll like, let's say like they're really horny or something.
	I'm like, I'm like, okay, like I get them in the mood.
	This is just plain cruel, but like I get them in the mood and we'll be like, sometimes even during sex, but normally before, like, I'll be like, nope, I don't want to do anything.
	And I'll make them wait.
	Or like during sex, I'll literally just stop and I'll roll over.
	Give them blue balls.
	I literally do it on purpose.
	I love doing it.
	It's so funny.
	They get so frustrated.
	They like literally, they get so mad.
	But then I let them take it out on me because I love that aggressive, angry sex.
	You know?
	What?
	I would get frustrated too.
	I would frustrate.
	They love it.
	They go crazy for it.
	I'd be like, what the fuck?
	They love it?
	They do, I swear.
	They probably do.
	I mean, that's kind of like the primitive game.
	It's kind of like foreplay in man in any way.
	The man is like trying to put on a show or attract the woman to get them into bed.
	And so it's like a game.
	So she's just playing the game.
	Not that that's right or that that's okay or like whatever your opinion is, but that's just kind of primitive.
	If they did it to me, I'd be okay with it.
	Like it's a game, you know?
	So just reiterate once again, what is it specifically that you do?
	You're like mid-hookup, and then you'll just like totally disengage.
	Yeah.
	Or like even before I'll like start sucking on their fingers and everything, I'll be like, oh, leaning in close, and then I'll be like, I don't want to have sex.
	But you do want to have sex.
	I do.
	And I eventually do, but like I said.
	I want to go around the table.
	Do you guys think that communication is important in a relationship?
	Yes, totally.
	A thousand percent.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that quite literally you not communicating though?
	I am.
	I'm saying I don't want to have sex right now.
	And I talk.
	You do want to have sex.
	I do, but it's a game that I'm playing.
	It's a mind game.
	Yeah, I'm teasing.
	I'm being a little brat.
	Yeah, I would hate that.
	They love it, though.
	I swear.
	Do they?
	I swear.
	It gets them so sexually frustrated.
	It's amazing.
	And then they take it out on you, and that's even better.
	It's like.
	It's like hate sex.
	Yeah, it's amazing.
	This is a dysfunctional group here.
	So are there any other games you play?
	Games?
	Because you said you play games.
	You said, because you said, I would like to talk about situationships and how guys get really attached, especially when you play games or are rude to them.
	So you gave us one example of playing a game.
	How are you rude to them?
	I guess it's more like I'm just straight up honest, but they think it's rude.
	Like I've had guys who like, they'll say like they're only fucking me.
	And I'm like, you shouldn't be doing that.
	Like, go fuck another girl.
	Like, because I'm, but, like, I'll be like, oh, I'm going out.
	Because I'm fucking another guy.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, I'll be like, oh, I'm going out.
	And this guy was like, are you going to get any guy's number?
	Like, fuck any guy tonight?
	I was like, maybe.
	Okay.
	I was like, what do you want me to say to that?
	Like, I'm being honest.
	And they think it's so rude.
	How else are you rude?
	They get so like.
	Because I'm just, I feel like it's more honesty than rude, I guess.
	Okay.
	But no, I just like say what's on my mind.
	I tell them what's going on.
	Like, if I'll be like, no, I don't want to see you.
	No, I don't.
	I don't.
	Like, they'll be like, oh, do you like me?
	Do you think it's right?
	No.
	You're a dangerous woman.
	Do you know that?
	Thank you.
	Maybe they think you're playing hard to get.
	Yeah, but I'm not.
	I'm being straight up with them.
	I'm being like, no, I like don't want to see you.
	I don't like you like that.
	I don't want to.
	I'm like, can I go home?
	Pay for the Uber.
	I'm like.
	I feel like you, like, when I say you're a dangerous woman, like, probably the guys, like, the, and I don't know if the type of men you go for are typically like fuck boys anyways, who they don't give a fuck about you either.
	But if you were to get involved with a guy who was like seriously pursuing you and actually like he didn't just want to be with you, just to have sex with you, like he actually liked you, I could see you being like a very dangerous person to be in a relationship with.
	For that type of guy like who cares, right if it's just casual.
	But like like, if I was in a relationship like what do you mean?
	Like if I dated, you'd rip out his heart and stomp on it.
	Yeah, probably.
	Why?
	Why do you laugh at that?
	I think it's kind of funny.
	I don't know.
	She doesn't want a nice guy.
	She doesn't need a nice guy, but like I can't explain it because, like I do want a relationship still together.
	My parents yeah no, it's going to have some Freud shit.
	No, they are not separated yes.
	At what age?
	When I was younger?
	Yeah oh, like.
	When did they split?
	Were they married or no?
	Not when I was eight.
	When I yeah, when I was like eight.
	Yeah, they were married.
	Do you have any siblings?
	Yes, I have four.
	Four okay, they divorced when you were eight.
	Was it a contentious divorce?
	Uh yeah, pretty much.
	I mean, my dad caught my mom cheating on him.
	Was your dad loyal?
	Yes, really loyal.
	And my mom he literally always says to me he's like you're just like your mother.
	Oh, it's bad.
	You did mention mommy issues in addition to daddy issues, very bad mommy issues.
	She was like Nick is gonna fix you.
	Okay, all right Nick, let's see what you can do.
	My parents divorced when I was like three.
	So three yeah, so I mean, I don't even remember.
	I want to be a good, good father.
	That's not like my, my parents, you know, I don't.
	I don't want to be a bad father, you know, be there for your kids for sure.
	Yeah, you've never had a relationship.
	No, I swear to God, I swear on everything you are on the whatever podcast.
	I want you to raise your right hand.
	Oh no, raise your right hand, okay.
	I want you, as an experiment, you have to date a guy for three months monogamous.
	No!
	There can't be any other men.
	We'll do a reunion episode in three months from now.
	We'll have you back on and we'll see how it goes.
	Okay.
	Just try it.
	What do you think?
	I'll try.
	I'll try it.
	I don't know if I could find a guy that would want to date me.
	You could.
	You don't think so?
	You're an attractive.
	You're an attractive card.
	I don't know.
	I feel like.
	You're a little crazy, but you're attractive.
	Okay, I'll try.
	I'll try.
	I'm going to.
	I'm going to ruin his life.
	Oh, Mick.
	I'm so sorry, Mick.
	Mick is like.
	What about me?
	Yo, we need another third guy for her.
	What?
	Oh, no.
	You want Mick?
	You want a piece?
	No, you want her.
	You want a piece of Mick?
	No.
	You want a piece?
	Do you know what his nickname is?
	Big Dick Mick.
	Oh, wow.
	Just saying.
	That's what they were calling me.
	That's C.
	Okay, so do you solemnly swear to not fuck 20 dudes in the next three months?
	Yeah, I solemnly swear I will not fuck 20 dudes in the next three months.
	You can only sleep with one man.
	Okay.
	No, look at me in the eyes.
	I looked at the character.
	Do you know that the karate kid, Mr. Miyagi, eyes?
	Always look eyes.
	I know.
	Guys tell me that all the time.
	They're like, you're lying to me.
	You look to the side.
	I'm like, fuck.
	Okay.
	You need a date.
	Like, I want you to have a boyfriend.
	You need to go find a boyfriend, date just one dude.
	Three months.
	Three months.
	Do you promise?
	I promise.
	For three months.
	You promise?
	I promise.
	Do you promise?
	A pinky promise.
	You want me to pinky promise.
	Do you promise?
	Yes, I promise.
	That's three times you've promised now.
	I'm holding you to it.
	Okay.
	So.
	I got to find a guy, though.
	And you can only be with him?
	Okay.
	And within three weeks, you have to have the what is this conversation.
	You're going to try to maneuver it, boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	You down?
	Yes, I'm down.
	You're going to try this?
	I do want to try to be in a relationship, but I've never tried it, so yeah.
	You've never tried it.
	You've got to give it a try.
	I know, I have to.
	Maybe you're missing out.
	I know, maybe I am.
	You know?
	You know what my brother said?
	He's like, you're going to get too bored in a relationship.
	You're going to cheat on him.
	I'm like, that's so messed up.
	I would not cheat on somebody.
	It's not.
	It's so true.
	Why would you think it's true?
	Because I feel like I have.
	My brother sounds wise beyond his.
	He is.
	He called me before this.
	He was like, you're going on that podcast?
	I was like, oh my God, Chris.
	I was like, stop.
	He is.
	He literally, he told me, he was like, you know, he's going to talk to you like how I talk to you.
	She says, okay, you like to play games.
	You're rude to them.
	Anybody else here into playing any games?
	Game playing, rudeness?
	Wow.
	I do the only ones.
	Huh?
	I do like Dominatrix stuff.
	Oh.
	You know what Dominatrix is?
	I know what it is.
	Yeah.
	With your current.
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	Hell no.
	He would never.
	Like, with my Instagram or my OnlyFans.
	Oh, like FinDom?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anybody else?
	Do you like to play games?
	No.
	No?
	I don't.
	Be honest.
	I really don't.
	Be honest.
	I really do not.
	Do I look like...
	Be honest.
	I like to play games.
	She doesn't have time for games.
	I really don't.
	She got checked out.
	Have you ever groomed a human?
	I have.
	Because you have a dog grooming business.
	Do I have three?
	Have you ever groomed a boyfriend?
	Yeah, I've done, like, his hair or, like, my son's hair will cut sometimes.
	Do you use the dog shears?
	Have you ever used the dog shears?
	Yeah, I don't buy human shears just to do it.
	So yeah, I typically use, I'll sterilize it and use sterilizing.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	No games, though, to answer that question.
	Anybody?
	Anybody else?
	I like my I feel like she likes playing games.
	Yeah, come on.
	Spill some spill some tea.
	Okay, I don't know.
	i don't know i'm very if i say that you're playing games and i'm gonna play games too but i could take someone serious Yeah, because once I see that you're playing games, I'm going to, I don't say much.
	I usually keep it to myself.
	And I play the game by myself.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	We have more from McKenna here.
	You say modern dating sucks and it's so hard to find someone to actually date.
	I've never dated anybody before in my entire life.
	And it's because men are just god-awful these days.
	Well, I don't want to say all men.
	I feel like it's the same for women.
	Because my brother says the same thing.
	He's like, women are awful.
	And I'm like, yeah, I feel like both equally are pretty freaking awful.
	But no, just the men I met, but you are right.
	Like when you're like, oh, I feel like the men you meet are like pretty trash.
	Like the guys that I get in such relationships with.
	I feel like that's my problem is like I attract just the wrong kind of guys.
	But also I feel like with me, if a nice guy meets me, I'm like, like what she was saying, she's like, oh, they're too boring.
	It's not like a it's not giving a little spice, a little kick.
	What makes a guy boring?
	For me, so like I like to play games, like even if in a relationship, like not like, not games where I'm like cheating on them or anything like that.
	Just like I like to mess with their head.
	So I like a guy to mess with my head too.
	How do you mess with guys' head?
	Like with the whole sex thing.
	There's other stuff.
	I'll leave them on red.
	I'll like make sure like if I like a guy, I never even let him know.
	You like them to chase you.
	Yeah, I like them to chase them to chase.
	This is way beyond chasing.
	But I just like if I like a guy, like he will literally never know.
	I never text guys first.
	Ever.
	Ever, ever, ever.
	I'll be on that phone.
	But okay, I mean, you said that.
	You've never dated anybody in your entire life because men are just god-awful.
	But given what you've said, could it be you who's god-awful?
	I am toxic.
	I've had guys tell me that.
	I know I'm toxic.
	But so you are what you, like, you're going to attract those kind of guys.
	Okay, yeah.
	Yeah, you're right.
	But how would I find, how am I going to find a guy to get in a relationship with me?
	I'm like scared.
	I feel like that's not going to happen.
	You'll find someone.
	The thing is, is that there's a lot of simps out there who tolerate bad behavior in women, who will tolerate toxicity because there's a lot of lonely men out there who don't get laid.
	Raven DT donated $100.
	I hope you are taking notes of all of these red flags.
	There will be a quiz after the show.
	Okay.
	Who's quizzing me?
	The chat and God.
	Okay.
	I'll definitely respond to comments later.
	what were we talking about we're talking about you you you're toxic your toxicity i think I think that's a generalization, though.
	You could generalize the genders in any way, you know.
	Like, but I have to agree, because I'm into men and women.
	Like, women are very stuck up as well, too.
	Same with men.
	So it's like, it's very equal.
	I shouldn't say just men, but men and women.
	Grid1 Motorsports donated $100.
	Some poor sap is going to catch a case over Red and Her Games.
	Where have all the good men gone?
	To women who actually want them.
	Why can't you find a good man?
	Good men do not want you.
	You will not find someone.
	They will see you coming a mile away.
	Good men do want me and they think they can tame me, but they can't.
	I ruin them.
	You what?
	I ruin them.
	You ruin good men?
	Yes.
	Why?
	Why?
	Wait, have you ruined a good man before?
	The last guy I filmed with was a really good man.
	But I didn't ruin him.
	I didn't do anything to him.
	I feel like I just broke his heart.
	He would tell me his feelings for me.
	And I was like, oh, it was funny.
	you asked why why why do you what why do i do that I don't know.
	I feel like it's kind of a defense mechanism because I just don't.
	I'm very scared to be in a relationship because I've seen a lot of toxic relationships in my life.
	Pretty much every relationship I've had in my, or not for me, but like people I've seen in my life have been in really toxic relationships and I've seen it go really, really bad.
	And I'm just like, I don't want that to be me at all.
	And I'm just really scared of love.
	Like I really am.
	I like love it at the same time.
	I used to want to be in a relationship so bad and everything.
	And I would try to lower my behavior and stuff.
	But it's just like I don't want to do that just to find somebody.
	Somebody would like me for me.
	I don't want to just lower my personality or my sex drive and stuff like that.
	Interesting.
	But yeah, long story short, I'm just afraid of love.
	So I feel like it's a defense mechanism when guys are have feelings for me.
	I get kind of scared.
	I literally, like, ghost them and shit like that because I just, like, don't want to deal with that.
	Do you...
	Do you want a relationship?
	I...
	I do.
	I want a husband.
	I want a whole bunch of kids.
	I want to live in freaking Montana and a little country house.
	I want that so bad.
	I really do.
	at this point in my life I'm like I'm 21 like I don't think that's you have plenty yeah Yeah, like I don't need to be tied down in a relationship right now.
	I definitely don't want to.
	i mean now what you could argue is actually the best time to find somebody not when you're why is this the best time Because it gets harder and harder.
	It's harder.
	Because you're young right now.
	Oh, really?
	Here, go into that.
	Why?
	So I'm 31 again.
	It gets harder because everyone that you start dating not only has baggage, but then you also accumulate more emotional damage.
	So the more guys you go through, the more you're going to be messed up in the head, the more undoing that you're going to have to do for this person that you're looking for.
	And like, besides being sexually a virgin, you want to be a virgin mentally as much as possible for this person that you're looking for.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it gets harder and harder from your own personality and the own things that you've built up and then also whoever you're dating.
	Also, everyone out there at my age has kids, has been through narcissists, have been abused, and like now we're trying to come together and form this thing and it just doesn't work as magically as it does when you're younger and you try to start something like that.
	The older you get, you just got to lessen your standards.
	And some of the people you see aren't going to check all your boxes like you want them to when they're young and they and they have the options to now it's like no one will ever check all your boxes at this age now you kind of have to just settle Kenpa donated $99.
	McKenna you say you attract tall guys but I think you reject the right ones.
	I think you're right too.
	I think I just am very afraid to be in a relationship but I need to learn that vulnerability and like that's what I was talking about with a guy one time.
	He was like that's the whole point of being in a relationship is to be vulnerable with that person.
	Like you trust that other person.
	And like I have major trust issues.
	Like I'm like very scared to be vulnerable with somebody.
	But I feel like that's something that I do need to experience and that I definitely want to experience but I'm just like I said I'm very scared to.
	It's much easier to be afraid of something that you've never done before.
	But once you get through that experience of doing it, whatever it is, not just relationships, literally anything, it's a lot when you're more comfortable.
	And you can even reflect like, okay, maybe it's not going to go perfect.
	It 100% won't because humans aren't perfect.
	Yeah, you know, but maybe just giving that opportunity to have that experience will take away that fear, you know, because it's not new anymore.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Where did your trust issues come from?
	Your parents?
	Yeah, parents, friends, men.
	Yeah, pretty much everything.
	When I was in high school, and I, before I was even a model, people kind of put me on this pedestal because they already knew that I was, you know, gonna be a model or like be something.
	So they put me on this pedestal and I never did that to myself, but people saw me and put me up there and then people would be like, they would be my friend and they would use me because they thought they were gonna get something out of it.
	And yeah, it was very, some very toxic friendships.
	And like I'd always, whenever they try to like, we would be like stop being friends, they would come back in my life and I would take them back and then they'd fuck me over again.
	So that's never gonna stop.
	It's just about how you were able to bounce off.
	I know now I'm like better with anything it gets worse.
	Now I'm better with friends and stuff.
	I literally have like three just close friends.
	I really like don't trust a lot of people.
	Don't let people in my circle anymore.
	I have a question for the table related to this.
	So it sounds like for you, you feel like a lot of men are awful.
	Do you have any guys in the friend zone?
	Friend zone?
	Yeah.
	I friend zoned a lot of guys.
	Friend zone a lot of guys?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Not attracted to them, not exciting enough?
	Yeah, not attracted to them.
	Not my type at all.
	Have you ever friend zoned a guy who's like good looking, but he just was maybe dull or didn't excite you?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Have you ever friend zoned a guy?
	No.
	I haven't.
	Never?
	Like, there's never been a guy who's like, hey, I like you, and you're like, oh, that's so sweet.
	But can we just be friends?
	Oh, yeah, actually, I have.
	I had like three people fall in love with me when I worked at Hooters.
	But they were like my people that were like regular people that would come in there.
	Yeah.
	And they were like older guys.
	Like they thought they had a chance with me or something.
	I don't know.
	Word.
	But yeah.
	What about you?
	It definitely takes something a little extreme for me to friend zone people.
	And like I said, now dating, like in my age, it seems like that happens a lot.
	But like younger men, just I don't have an age, so I'll date older or I'll date younger.
	What about Mick?
	Are you turning?
	Listen, Mick's on the fucking rebound.
	Yeah, you need to get on tenure tonight.
	Just one around.
	I'm just throwing it out there.
	All right.
	I don't mean to make it awkward or uncomfortable.
	What do you think about you and Mick?
	What do you mean, what do I think about me and Mick?
	You know, romantically, sexually.
	I don't know him.
	What do you think?
	I don't know him.
	How long are you in town for?
	I don't know, like three hours.
	You got flights?
	Oh, yeah.
	She's going to drive.
	Yeah, I drive like three hours.
	Oh, wait, where are you from?
	Corona.
	Oh, you're from California.
	I thought for some reason you from out of state.
	Let's just move on.
	Let's move on from that question.
	Sorry, Mick.
	I'm trying, Mick.
	I'm trying.
	Okay, I appreciate that.
	We didn't get him on a dating app.
	Go ahead, continue.
	I'm sorry, what was the question again?
	Friend zone.
	Have you ever friend zoned?
	Yeah, it takes something really extreme for me.
	Like, for example, someone could be a really nice guy, have a job, have all of his stuff together, but then once I find out that he wakes up in the morning and cracks open a beer from the moment his eyes are open, you're in the friend zone.
	Have you ever friend zoned a guy?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	For sure.
	Medicine.
	I feel like only like once in my life.
	We have a video to react to related to this, Nick if you can pull up the, oh before you switch to it make sure the video is full screen.
	It's the Reddit video about the friend zoning.
	Make sure it's full screen, though.
	Noise on?
	Yeah, yeah, I'll be on.
	Go ahead.
	Where the hell would y'all be finding these men that are obsessed with you?
	Check your friends on good fathers.
	Your friend zone can take care of you.
	Check your friends on.
	Check the friend zone.
	Here's the catch.
	Here's the catch.
	Check your friend zone.
	When they're mad.
	Check your friends.
	I'm going to need one of them.
	Check it.
	Do you guys think about that?
	What do you think?
	I don't have any friends like that.
	It's funny.
	No, I think the ending is true.
	For sure.
	Yeah, because the nice guys are usually in the friend zone.
	And those are the ones that are going to treat you good.
	Yeah.
	But they're in the friend zone.
	Yeah.
	That's why it's like you're friends with someone before you date them.
	What's that?
	Be friends with someone before you date them.
	Like both of them.
	Yeah, but the friend zone is like that's different than being well, that's like they liked you and you're just like.
	Friend zone is like you're permanently in that zone, like you're not getting, like you don't come back from them.
	Both men and women contribute to that, because if men are sitting around willing to um drool over a girl after she doesn't even show one ounce of reciprocation, that's also on him.
	But also um, the females is weird for just keeping men around that they don't actually want, because it's like that's just people you're spending your time with and giving your energy that you don't actually want in the long run.
	Yeah, can you skip your mic?
	That's why you don't really friend zone guys, because you already know what their intentions are, so it's like you might as well.
	Just out of the way, I don't have any like guy friends, like maybe one in Tennessee, but it's like no guy friends.
	So is that a real thing?
	Like women like, like guys that are just like going to treat them kind of crappy?
	I don't even think that.
	I don't think so.
	I, I want to be true.
	Some girls don't like put them down.
	You like stuff and be like you suck, she likes it just like, or just like being rude.
	Would being rude be considered bad?
	Ew, I think that's disgusting.
	Not like, not like rude, but like like what I was saying.
	Like I like a guy to play games with me and stuff like that.
	I understand the teasing thing yeah, but the teasing can be attractive, but I would say like not um, like being rude, because that's when I, when I hear like being like that, I would.
	That's what I think of Seabug.
	To Nated 1990, thank you.
	Taking the easy road now tends to lead to a hard road later.
	If you take the hard roads now, they tend to lead you to the easy roads.
	Love is the easy road that so many women are taking to see a hard future.
	Push past your fears.
	Do the hard things.
	That's beautiful, that should be.
	That sounds like a country song, almost a hard road.
	I got a chat here before it disappears from John.
	John says, can we talk about what non-physical traits on a guy is attractive?
	Uh, we'll do that.
	Then I want to get into like the boring thing really quick, because that's come up a couple times.
	Go around the table really quick on this.
	Uh non-physical yeah, what is attractive like, so like personality.
	Oh, personality we might have.
	Did we kind of touch it.
	Yeah, we might have talked about it.
	99 dollars, don't Red laugh at her dad because her mom cheated on him and wrecked her home.
	Now she is on the same path, according to her dad.
	Damn shame, run the Crumb.
	Stop being for the streets and find a guy like me.
	I just laugh a lot and that's not funny at all, but I really do laugh a lot if you can't tell.
	Well, some people laugh in uncomfortable.
	Yeah I, that's not like that's awful, I feel so.
	But like my dad went through a lot of hard stuff.
	But yeah yeah, i'm sure that was hard on the whole thing.
	We have one from GRID, ONE Motorsports.
	Uh Mckenna, can you read this?
	For us, Red is a perfect example of wasted youth.
	Your 20s are not for partying and being free.
	It is for learning how to be a good human and building your value, not adding bodies and baggage.
	Your response?
	Um, I partied when I was like in high school, like 15 16, 17.
	I don't really party anymore.
	I don't do drugs anymore.
	I know I brought that up.
	Now everyone thinks I'm a drug addict.
	But no, I don't do that anymore.
	I don't even smoke weed anymore.
	I drink every now and then.
	Normally, when I travel, like go out of state or different countries, and I go to clubs like in Europe and stuff.
	But no, I don't really party like in San Diego.
	There's not really a good party scene there, in my opinion, but.
	You said some guys are boring to you.
	I think you said, did you say boring too earlier on in the conversation?
	Who related to that?
	If a guy is boring as that to turn off.
	Turn off.
	Yeah.
	You need like a guy to be to some degree toxic.
	Not toxic, but just like creative and like fun.
	They like to be.
	That's going to have a different definition for everybody, I think.
	Yeah.
	Just like fun.
	Polite.
	Creative.
	They like to do stuff.
	Adventurous.
	Would you prefer.
	But here's the thing, though.
	Some women would rather date a toxic guy than a boring guy.
	Because toxic is more entertaining.
	Yeah, I probably would probably be toxic.
	Probably more entertaining.
	Now, I realize that you can be not boring and also be not toxic.
	Right, absolutely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It seems to me that, and I've mentioned this in previous shows, that a lot of women are looking to men when it comes to dating and relationships and a life partner.
	You're looking to men to be your entertainment.
	And like Newsflash, I mean, men have been taught, like, oh, you've got to be funny.
	Women like funny men.
	And look, obviously, the dating marketplace is very competitive.
	And as a man, you have to meet a million different criteria to be attractive to a wide array of women.
	But like my personal stance on this is, bro, we're not, we as men, we're not here to be your entertainment.
	And we have, there's a lot of men out there running around trying to be fucking dancing monkeys to entertain you.
	Like, oh, let me try to be a really entertaining guy.
	And I feel like, one, that does not necessarily make for a strong foundation for a relationship.
	But I just, it's only a couple levels.
	One, men have been told you need to be really entertaining and funny and charismatic and all these things to attract a woman.
	And also, we have a society which has basically rewired people's brains to be so focused on short-term pleasure seeking.
	Our attention spans are completely destroyed, completely diminished.
	You have TikTok, which, I mean, that totally warps your brain and how you're like, imagine trying to read a book after you just scrolled on TikTok for fucking two hours.
	Good luck.
	I read books.
	Is it nearly as entertaining as just scrolling on TikTok?
	That's fine.
	But I guess what I'm trying to say is my view is, we as men, we are not here to be your entertainers.
	If you want to be entertained, if you want to be not bored, go watch Netflix.
	Yeah.
	Like, I'm not saying, like, as a guy, you shouldn't.
	To be competitive.
	I'm not saying, like, in the same way that, for example, I say, while I personally don't think men should pay on first dates, men should pay on first dates just to min-max their dating success and dating results.
	So you should min-max your, excuse me, you should min-max your personality and your charisma in order to be successful when it comes to dating.
	But there's just like so many things that men have to do to be attractive to women.
	But I don't think it ought to be the case that men need to be these dancing monkeys.
	I feel like it goes both ways.
	Go ahead.
	How does it go both ways?
	When, like, is it ever the case that do you think like men go on dates and they're like secretly hoping that women are like really funny?
	No, but like how you said earlier, which it's appearance-based.
	You're like, I don't like girls that have fake boobs or fake lips.
	I mean, everyone has their type.
	Oh, sure.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	But I'm not really following.
	I don't know.
	I think she's saying, like, why can't funny just be part of someone's type without it being by act?
	You're like forcing someone to funny.
	Well, I accept that women are attracted to funny men, much in the same way that I accept women are attracted to tall men for a moment.
	There he is.
	Do not protect from genital herpes, as evidenced by all corn stars being infected, what a filthy animal red must be.
	Panel, do not touch her skin, it's dangerous.
	For the panel one by one, would you see with someone with genital herpes?
	Jay Butler, do you know that we conjured you like an hour ago?
	Jay Butler, what's the right word?
	Not conjure.
	We summoned.
	We summoned you an hour ago to ask a.
	So the question is, would you just quick yes or no?
	Would you date someone or what was did he say date or sleep with?
	Sleep, I think.
	Sorry, let me.
	Would you sleep with someone with genital herpes?
	No.
	Me?
	No.
	Hard, no.
	No.
	No, no.
	Not if I knew they had it.
	Like I said, test results and like testing are really important.
	Mick?
	Especially in our industry.
	No, no, I would not.
	Madison?
	No.
	I would not.
	Good talk.
	Wait, okay, we were talking about it.
	A lot of people don't disclose that, though.
	Can I add to that, Connect?
	Yeah.
	I actually really like boring men because I don't think they're actually boring.
	They value peace, is what I've noticed.
	So a lot of boring men are actually very ambitious in their careers, typically take care of their bodies and have a job that they have to extend their mind and bodies to.
	So when, like, boring, it's typically guys that enjoy movies or relaxing, being able to add to their piece.
	So I value my piece too.
	So somebody like that kind of adds to my piece and I can add to theirs.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I see like on dating apps.
	I used to see this.
	Well, I'm not on dating apps anymore, but when I used to be, I'd always see like women say, take me on an adventure.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, you're not that special.
	Like.
	I don't like the demanding of it, like, how it's like they expect the guy to do it, but like, it should be fun to like go on a trip with your boyfriend, and it's like an equal thing.
	Yeah, but that's after you like date a guy.
	Yeah, after you date.
	That's kind of like an entitled way to like approach.
	Yeah, I mean, I think when women say that there's like no chemistry or he's boring, translation, he doesn't trigger my anxious trauma response, which I confuse with love.
	That could be.
	Could be the thing.
	I think it could be it.
	Could be it.
	Sorry, there's a fly.
	I have a lot of trauma books that I read about like stuff like that.
	I think that would be awesome, though.
	Like go to a trip to like the Grand Canyon, like drive, like as your second date, you just like, you know, doing six two years.
	Second date?
	You wouldn't even know them.
	That's a long car ride.
	True, they might kill you.
	Yeah, you'd be like, actually, this person number, like fourth date, I would say like six months of dating.
	Oh, yeah, like something like that.
	I think like six months, for me, anyways, I'll take you on our first dinner date six months.
	Oh, what?
	Is that like talking or actually dating, like, committed in a relationship?
	Wait.
	Maybe.
	So what are you doing up until then?
	Yeah, like what's going on?
	Speaking to the mic if you're sorry about that.
	What are you doing up until then?
	You said no dinner date until six months?
	Netflix.
	You know, like going out to a restaurant.
	Like six months in, you know.
	Come over.
	Come over in Netflix.
	Let's just hang out.
	Just come over.
	So you're introverted to your house.
	I'm a homebody.
	Yeah, I'm a homebody too.
	No, I mean, I'm being a bit facetious, but like, uh, I feel like that's what people say when they talk about boring, though.
	Like, if you don't want to do anything and you just want to, yeah, you just lay in bed all day.
	Play video games all day.
	Yeah, I asked this guy to go skitty to pick me in the ocean, and he didn't want to go.
	That's a little different.
	That's a fun thing to do.
	That's fun, though.
	That's like spontaneous.
	I'm like, get naked and get in the ocean.
	If a guy asked me to come to his house on the first day, I wouldn't go.
	Yeah, I wouldn't either.
	I wouldn't either.
	Because it made me feel like it's not a good idea.
	Never say never.
	While we're talking about that, something I've been seeing a lot on like Facebook and like TikTok and stuff is girls complaining about dates.
	Like where a guy offered to take them.
	Can we?
	Oh, I saw that.
	It was like a viral Twitter thing.
	I was like, Applebee.
	I would love to go to Cheesecake Factory.
	What?
	He could take me to the drive-thru at McDonald's.
	I would not care.
	I went down at Cheesecake.
	Nick, are you able to find that?
	Remember the list of all the stuff?
	Yeah, there's a list of chain stroke that I saw.
	I forgot where it was.
	Didn't you just pull it up randomly or something?
	Yeah, it was on Twitter.
	Wait, we have it.
	I can send it to him.
	Wait, let's do Twitch really quick, Nick.
	Let's do Twitch.
	Let's not.
	We'll probably have to skip over that.
	I want to try to keep the conversation.
	Oh, Raven DT.
	Question for the panel.
	Would you date a man who played World of Warcraft?
	Oh my god, okay.
	If he's hot.
	If he's hot.
	Yeah, that's a fun game.
	I don't know what it is.
	Yes.
	No, I don't like people.
	Sure.
	Did y'all see the hardcore mock gora tournament today?
	On pretty.
	Okay, never wrong.
	Grid one motorsports donated $100.
	What 304s view as boring in a man is actually the lack of toxicity being serious about theater business and purposeful in the lives.
	Odd, you can't see that for the panel.
	How has modern feminism affected your dating?
	How can the patriarchy help you today?
	Didn't some big work.
	I don't know what that means.
	I don't think they're going to be able to interpret that last question.
	Well, I'm going to ask just this.
	Who here considers themselves a feminist?
	I don't even know what it means.
	I don't know what it means either.
	McKenna, in your notes, you said you were a feminist.
	I did.
	Yeah, you said you were a feminist, didn't you?
	I'm for feminism.
	Yay.
	I don't know what it means.
	I genuinely.
	I don't like the feminist movement.
	No.
	No, what?
	I'm not.
	I don't share any political stances or views on anything that's going on in the world right now, including that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm not into it either.
	I'm all for equality, but men and women is different.
	So I will say that I don't like the feminist movement, but I believe in equality as much as possible.
	Nope.
	Yeah, okay, nope.
	Okay.
	All right, right.
	Let's see here.
	We have, we got some more notes from people.
	Oh, yeah, Twitch.
	Yo, did I call it, did I get wall?
	Think for the prime.
	Body drop.
	Think for the gifted sub.
	R12, thing for the prime.
	Rid thing for the prime.
	Thank you guys.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Let's see here.
	We have Jamie.
	Yeah.
	Modern dating is absolute trash.
	Why, why, and how?
	Well, you caught me at a bad time when I was answering that question, but I don't know.
	Dating's like the economy.
	You know, sometimes business is booming.
	Other times, make you crawl right back to your toxic ex.
	But I feel like, at least for me, in the age that I'm at, I'm in kind of a divide where I can date like the age group ahead of me, or I can date the age group behind me.
	And I feel like I don't really fit in with either of them.
	So like the newer generation, when it comes to like employees, dating, and everything, seems to be really entitled.
	And that trickles down a lot into dating.
	And then the older generation is just kind of too old school for me.
	Like, so.
	What do you mean by entitled in the workplace?
	What do you mean by that?
	I feel like the newer generation is entitled in a lot of different aspects of life.
	So in the employment industry, in dating, in everything, it kind of trickles down.
	But it seems like everyone just, for example, my friend will be like, I want a guy who looks like this, does this, has just this job, but at the same time, she lives with her parents.
	So it seems like people are expecting a lot more than they can offer themselves.
	And that's what I mean by entitlement.
	I see.
	Okay.
	In what other ways do you guys, like, well, first let's ask the whole table.
	Do you guys think that modern dating is absolute trash?
	Show of hands.
	Is it absolute trash?
	Madison, please don't do the Roman solution.
	It may not be absolute trash, but it's not good.
	Okay.
	Because I think of like dating apps and stuff and like social media.
	I think it's because dating apps, people think cheating is okay now.
	Yeah.
	Open relationships.
	It makes people just be very surface too.
	Like you're literally just judging someone based off of their looks and you haven't spoken to them.
	You haven't had a conversation with them.
	And so what kind of real relationship can you start by just looking at left swiping someone, you know?
	Yeah.
	Without getting you said that you're kind of internally masculine and that you'll approach a guy if you see one that you want.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You know what we should do?
	Do any of the girls at the table think that they have game?
	Yeah.
	I don't.
	No game.
	Bad game.
	You got game.
	I'm pimp.
	You got risk.
	Yeah.
	You got game?
	No, sir.
	Okay, we'll still have you do it anyways.
	So here's what we're going to do.
	I'm going to pretend.
	No, well, because this thing you said is you'd be approaching a guy.
	So what we sometimes do is we'll have the girl pretend to be a guy and have her hit on someone pretending to be a guy, like to put themselves in the – but okay.
	So you'd approach a guy.
	Let's see your game.
	Oh, no.
	Come on.
	Pretend I'm like a four foot 11 dog groomer.
	Well, it's not always just verbal.
	So a lot of times I've like walked by and slipped a phone number on a napkin like to a person and then like I'll like make eye contact as I walk away.
	Or I'll just go up and be really bubbly.
	Like they don't expect me to go up and be like, hey, I'm Jamie.
	And I'll shake their hand very firmly and be like, so I do this.
	What do you do?
	I'll just like kind of start conversation.
	I'm not like, hey, baby, like what's a like.
	Wait, I'm just because earlier on in the conversation, you said you don't really, it sounded like to me, you said you didn't really care that much about physical appearance.
	I don't, but like if I was on a dating app, it would kind of force me to be that way.
	But you said, but you said you'll approach a guy, I'm assuming in person, if you see one that you want.
	Yeah, so that's, I can't really explain that.
	It's like the way that they carry themselves, the way that they speak.
	Yeah, and so it's not just a like typical, you know, what they look like.
	All right, let's do a little role play here.
	Let's see an approach.
	Okay, what's the.
	We're at the dog park.
	He's got a.
	You got a happy dog.
	Nanny's grooming.
	That's such a layup, but okay.
	Okay, I'm going to try.
	Hi, I'm Jamie.
	Nice to meet you.
	You literally just walk up?
	Is that?
	So, so, so, so, okay, okay, fine.
	Oh, yeah.
	A lot of times I'll walk up and just introduce myself.
	Hey, what's up?
	I'm Jamie.
	Nice to meet you.
	I won't be too.
	Okay.
	That's not every time.
	That's not the game.
	It really just depends on the game.
	Hi, I'm Brian.
	Good to meet you.
	Yeah, so you live around here?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	Where about?
	I live in that mansion over there.
	Oh, okay.
	I live about 10 minutes away.
	What kind of dog do you have?
	It's a Chihuahua and Pitbull mix.
	Oh, my God.
	How cute.
	Yeah.
	The father was the Chihuahua, surprisingly.
	I don't know how that worked.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	What's your dog?
	I have two standard poodles and a pit lab.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So what do you do?
	What do I do?
	Yeah.
	For work?
	Yeah, for a living.
	I am a dog groomer.
	Oh, wow.
	Small world.
	Oh, you too.
	Do you need a job?
	No.
	I'm just kidding.
	I wouldn't say that.
	I don't know.
	It's just casual conversation.
	With girls, it's not the same typical game that you would see like a man pulling.
	Like, I'm not just going to be like, so did it hurt when you fell out of heaven?
	Like, that's not good.
	It's just all.
	No, it's just I'm going to be like confident in myself.
	I'm going to be bubbly.
	And then to a certain point, if he's not, like, reciprocating, then I'll be like, all right, nice to meet you.
	Like, have a good night.
	But, okay, I mean.
	You're a tough guy.
	That's valid.
	Are you going to look to the guy?
	Because I think a lot of women were like say, oh, I initiate.
	But even if you do that token initial approach, which that's more than 99% of women do already.
	So I give you credit.
	But hold on.
	I'll let this come.
	I've got donated $99.
	Brian, stop.
	Let's discuss Donald Trump.
	What do you all think of him?
	He's a rich man.
	Here, how about this?
	Yes or no?
	Would you date Donald Trump?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay So I give you credit for ripping lips.
	Thank you, man.
	Being forward.
	Yeah, no, I mean, most women, 99% of women would never approach a guy.
	So I give you credit for that.
	But where was I going?
	Something about what?
	It's true, though.
	I feel like guys have to have gain to handle.
	You got lost.
	It was working, huh?
	What's that?
	Oh, no.
	I think what I was going to say was, is that in the same thing with like Bumble, where here's a dating app where women have to make the first move.
	They have to send the first message.
	It's very token because a lot of women, one, they'll just send out a hay and then immediately shift the entire conversational burden onto the men already.
	But I'm curious with you, when you've approached men, like will you take, in addition to just that, which I credit you for, to that first initial initiative step, will you also do the other initiative steps?
	So for example, you do the approach, but then will you also be like, you know, you have a conversation for a couple minutes.
	Because you can't just continue the conversation indefinitely.
	Yeah.
	There needs to come a point where you need to lead and be like, well, hey, you seem really nice.
	You seem very pleasant.
	I'd like to grab a cup of coffee or grab food with you sometime.
	Are you single?
	Are you free?
	So will you be the one who will move things forward from there?
	So it depends, because obviously there are some guys who will just say dead conversation.
	Like they are giving you nothing to go off of.
	If someone's at least like bubbly and being reciprocative and like, you know, coming back at me, then I'll have the confidence to like continue and be like, so do you want to go get a drink sometime?
	Or do you have a girlfriend is normally what I asked before I asked if they want to go out.
	Well, because sometimes, because a lot of men don't get approached a lot.
	So do you make it pretty clear that you're hitting on them?
	Like you're not going to be able to do it.
	I would think so.
	That's why I'm saying I keep trying until I know that it's dead.
	Like until I know.
	You know how when girls are trying not to be approached, but they're trying to be nice and they're just like, guys do that too.
	So I can sense that after a certain point in the conversation and I'll be like, all right, I'm going to back out.
	He obviously does not want to talk to me.
	Or all right, I'll take that.
	If a girl approaches you and she's kind of, if she's like, it's not clear that she's hitting on you, because like, for example, if it's at a dog park, it's plausible that people regularly, like there's regulars at dog park.
	People might say hi.
	Oh, dogs interacting, right?
	I don't know if you're going to dog parks infrequently, but someone coming up to you might not necessarily like they could just be trying to have a conversation with you.
	But like at a certain point, they're not.
	Like if someone's talking to you enough and it's of the opposite sex, they're usually not just trying to see how your day is.
	At a certain point.
	Yeah, but like the thing is, if you approach a guy and you've not like because you said, well, if they're not really giving me anything back, like the way I'm going to be talking to a girl who I think is just like, it's like a casual conversation, I'm not going to like, I'm not really going to try to be flirting with her.
	But if she's made it clear to me that she's interested in some way.
	Not flirting, but like the one-word answers.
	If they give me like five one-word answers where they're not like, so what about you?
	And they're not reciprocating that, that's more what I mean.
	Not like plain black and white flirting.
	So then at that point, I'll either pull back and be like, all right, this person wants nothing to do with me, or I'll just jump right into it and be like, hey, so do you want to go get a drink sometime?
	Or hey, can I get your number?
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Let's see the Riz.
	Let's see the Riz from you.
	Go ahead.
	Riz time.
	Hi, my name's McKenna Seagears.
	Do you want to dance with me?
	We're at a club?
	Yeah, anywhere.
	I'll dance with someone anywhere.
	I'll dance with them.
	I'll play music off my damn phone and dance with a guy anywhere.
	I love dancing.
	She's just forward.
	I'm forward too.
	Like, I'll literally, if I'm at a club too, I'll tap a guy on the back.
	I'm like, you want to dance with me?
	I'm kind of aggressive like that as well.
	Like, I don't know.
	I'll literally walk in the club and I'll just.
	I mean, that immediately ends the conversation.
	So if he doesn't want to dance with me, then that's not.
	Well, that's what I do.
	My bad.
	Yeah, but then, like, okay, cool.
	If I say yes, then we've, we're now dancing and the conversation's over.
	I'm talking about some scenario where, like, you have to Riz.
	Like, you have to run game.
	You said you got game.
	Let's hear it.
	My game?
	Well, I wouldn't run a game on you.
	Well, we're in Trader Joe's.
	Hi, my name is McKenna Sujardla.
	Do you want to go dance?
	Yeah.
	Fucking Trader Joe's.
	Fuck yeah.
	Yes, I want to.
	I do it.
	Are we going to be finger banging in the Trader Joe's?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Is that it?
	Do you want to try again?
	No, you can skip me.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Rizz me up.
	Okay, name of the place.
	You're the Rizzler.
	Okay, okay.
	Come on, Rizzler.
	Rizzler?
	Okay, let's say at a park and you had a dog.
	I'll be like, oh, yeah, I was saying, like, do you have a nice dog?
	What's your dog's name?
	Maximilian.
	Oh, what a nice day.
	Name.
	What's your name?
	Brian.
	Nice.
	You come here often?
	I do.
	Yeah, I come.
	I love this park.
	My dog shits in it all the time.
	Oh, you're funny.
	That's kind of cute.
	Thanks, Bib.
	And you have a nice smile.
	Do you have Instagram or can I get your number?
	Maybe we could.
	What?
	Walk our dogs out.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Never mind.
	That was decent.
	She uses compliments for her Riz.
	I like it.
	It was good.
	You let on pretty early on that your interests.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Let's hear some news.
	No, no.
	Come on, come on, come on.
	I don't like to play no games.
	I like real conversation.
	I barely even like sarcasm.
	Let's be straight up.
	Let's be straight up.
	Let's just be straight up.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Fine.
	Fine.
	No more Riz.
	Zero Riz.
	All right.
	I kind of had a ridge at the gym once.
	Thank you.
	No, thank you.
	OK.
	Let's see.
	Let's.
	Haley Jackson.
	Yeah.
	That's my name.
	Wait, hold on.
	I don't think I put notes.
	Oh, yeah, I don't think you gave us anything.
	I think I've got.
	Let's see.
	Okay, okay, let's do video reaction.
	It's Nick.
	It's the one on the Twitter, I think.
	Make it full screen before you switch over.
	It's like the NBA player guy.
	All right, so before you press play, this has been going kind of viral recently.
	I don't know if I need to give context, but we'll just play the video.
	Yeah, I haven't seen it.
	Oh, can you make it louder?
	Just find it out.
	We cannot.
	That's bullshit.
	Wait, fuck.
	I'm telling you, though, that's fucked up.
	Wait, wait, no, no, no.
	You're not going to say fuck me or that's fucked up.
	It's not fucked up.
	Listen, it's not fucked up and we're going to, okay, look, so.
	So I have an OnlyFans page.
	And he's mad because he's just now finding out about it.
	I'm not doing it with anybody but myself, so why should I have to tell you my choice, my body?
	My body, my fucking choice.
	Yo, I've been talking to you about mad things.
	I've been asking for solutions to shit.
	You're not giving me none, so I've created one.
	That's no solution.
	Not in my book.
	You knew who the fuck I was when you met me.
	Before.
	Before.
	Before, yeah.
	And I thought that I would never have to go back to anything like that.
	That's not the case right now.
	Everything did change.
	No, it had to.
	You act like that's the only thing that I do.
	I have mad jobs, but they're not facilitating everything that needs to be done.
	So I got something extra.
	OnlyFans be breaking me off.
	What the fuck?
	Breaking me off.
	Disrespect that comes with it.
	What disrespect?
	You couldn't come and talk to me about it.
	Okay, well, we're talking about it now.
	okay no wait i had to find out on the fly so now you know Okay.
	And so?
	Whatever.
	I've been doing what I have to do, period.
	Like, that's bottom line.
	That's what it is.
	I think of it the context.
	That's an ex-NBA player.
	That's his wife, if I understand correctly.
	They've been together for, I don't know the exact period of time.
	It was, the volume was a little low, but she starts filming him.
	He's kind of talking about how he found out that she started an OnlyFans.
	And I think she had had it for a long time.
	He didn't know.
	His, or her husband, her husband, did not know that she had an OnlyFans.
	He's very upset.
	What's your guys' reaction to that?
	I think that she should have told him.
	That she should have been like, hey, I want to make this.
	Like, what do you think about it?
	Even if she's not like...
	She kept it from her husband.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
	Yeah, I think that's just.
	Dishonesty is just not like you got to be transparent in relationships.
	She could be upfront about it and be like, even if he's like, oh, I still don't want you to do it.
	She could still be like, all right, well, I'm still going to do it.
	But at least she, like, let him know, you know.
	Divorce.
	Call me traditional, but when you're married, it's no longer my body.
	You're a union and you're together.
	And anything like that is considered betrayal.
	Yeah, I don't know why that was kept a secret.
	Even if you say that it was not a secret, it kind of seems like something that you would just automatically share.
	Seems important.
	Yeah, I feel like he, like, most of the reason why he was upset is because he had just found out and like how long was she going to go without telling him?
	Yeah.
	When the fuck was he going to actually be told that his wife had an OnlyFans?
	And I feel like I agree with you on like, she kept saying like, my body, my choice, but when you're in a marriage, like, you're sharing your body and it is a union.
	Yeah.
	But she also disrespected him by posting that with their financial situation, saying why she's doing it.
	She's, that's really disrespectful to him, too.
	Grid One Motorsports says that the videos cap.
	Is it like it's probably clickbait to get views?
	Is it bullshit?
	It probably could be.
	I mean, people do that kind of, those kind of hoaxes to get more traffic, but I mean, he's an ex-NBA player.
	I don't know.
	Mick, do you have any reactions to that?
	I think she should just have told him.
	That's the main thing.
	Okay.
	Just be honest.
	I have tons of friends that are in the industry and that are married and happy.
	I feel like not even just told him, like, discussed if they were both willing to have her do that.
	She probably should have asked permission to be.
	Yeah, for real.
	It looked, I feel like it looked real.
	I think it was legit.
	Well, let's pull up our OnlyFans and see.
	I'll pass on that.
	But I think the, I mean, that's a really big red flag, but what's almost more triggering or tilting to me is that in an argument, assuming this is real, she is filming him when he's venting.
	That's a massive red flag.
	Yeah.
	That's worthy of a divorce on its own.
	Is that illegal to do?
	I mean, I don't, whether it's legal or not, it's probably legal to like in your own household.
	Like, you could argue, like, depending on the state, if it's one-party consent.
	Although, if you're holding up your phone, they know you're recording.
	So it's probably not like there's like wiretapping laws.
	But in any case, that's just like you don't do that to your partner.
	You don't like film your partner.
	So that's worthy of a divorce on its own.
	Even if he was venting about something not as serious, like if you're, it reminds me of that.
	There's this Nick.
	I don't know if you're able to find it.
	There's this clip with Jada and Will Smith where Jada is like filming him and he's like, Will Smith, you know?
	He's like, yo, babe, like, don't record me right now.
	Like, this is like, I have a public image.
	Like, you can't just, you got to ask me first.
	So, Nick, if you could try to find the video of Jada, like, maybe the Google search would be Jada Smith filming Will Smith.
	That might be, you might be able to find it.
	You shouldn't ever, like, film your partner while you're in, like, a serious conversation like that either.
	That's just, like, weird.
	Yeah, yeah, that's it.
	Audio, please.
	Max the audio.
	Max the audio.
	You know, Stair Perrell is coming to the table.
	She's going to be at the red table.
	Would you say she has been instrumental in you and I redefining our relationship?
	I would say don't just start filming me without asking me.
	Oh, my goodness.
	If you could film me.
	Astare, come help us again, please.
	I'm still dealing with foolishness.
	Don't.
	No, no, she, yeah, because she don't just think that she helped us heal the hurts that we caused be one another.
	My social media presence is my bread and butter, okay?
	So you can't just use me for social media and not, you know, don't just start rolling.
	I'm standing in my house.
	Don't just start rolling.
	Please watch a stare at the red table because she's helped us a lot.
	Can't you?
	That video is like really shitty quality and there was a bit more to it.
	But that's a yikes.
	That's a major yikes.
	You do not film your partner and fucking publish it to the fucking textbooks narcissist anyway.
	And she really is like very abusive to him.
	And I've read up on some of this stuff.
	And she even still acts like she's like says Tupac Shakur is the love of her life when she's with him.
	It's like, what?
	Yeah, she's really, really bad.
	Yeah.
	She's a terrible person.
	And that's why you shouldn't get married.
	What?
	I still believe in marriage.
	You're not going to get married.
	Huh?
	You're not going to get married.
	I'm not going to get married.
	You haven't found the one.
	Because he doesn't want to be a marriage.
	No, it's not about the one.
	It's not about the one.
	I'm just not.
	I don't believe in marriage.
	So you don't want kids either?
	I could have kids.
	I can have kids.
	Truthfully, I could go either way on the kids thing, but marriage, that's a- You'd just rather, it's like a piece of paper.
	What's the point?
	Pretty much.
	I mean, it's just an L.
	It's just an L for men.
	That's true.
	What's crazy?
	That's an L for men, marriage.
	That's a huge L. If they end up getting a divorce, then they're really.
	Well, that's what I'm saying, but the divorce rate is so high that it's such a high risk that I'm just nah.
	Okay.
	But actually, I think it's whoever makes more money to make more money than you, then it's not an L for you.
	Yeah, then you're racking in on her alimony to you.
	I could see myself getting married on that.
	Under these circumstances, I can be convinced.
	Yeah.
	However, it's not like most women don't typically don't fuck with men who earn less money than them.
	And I feel like most women are a little, like, if a woman makes a lot of money, she's going to probably want a prenup.
	A lot of men get blinded.
	So if she made more money than me, marriage is on the table.
	What if you got a prenup?
	What's that?
	Yeah, why don't you get a prenup?
	Prenups don't really work.
	Yeah, they do.
	No, it's only what you when you sign the prenup what that person had before that paperwork is signed once after that everything is together.
	Yeah so and they can be constantly challenged they can be challenged with infidelity.
	Yeah, no prenup can be challenged under any circumstance.
	Really?
	I know somebody who got away with a prenup.
	Well yeah, I mean if the person on the other side is operating in good faith, but I think he just did a really like very detailed you can be rich and have the best lawyers draft up the best prenuptial agreement if if the woman is motivated enough or whoever I mean typically it's if the woman is motivated enough yet like you can get around the prenup.
	You can challenge a prenup.
	You just tell the judge there was coercion or fraudulent inducement or something.
	Yeah like they were hiding money and shit.
	Well, it was with here in Santa Barbara County.
	It was fuck, what's his name?
	Kevin Costner.
	Nick, could you look up the divorce proceedings with Kevin Costner here in Santa Barbara County with his wife?
	He had a prenup with his wife, Kevin Costner, very successful actor, very wealthy, and in the prenup it even said, you will not challenge the prenup.
	She challenged the prenup and won.
	I don't know if she won, but it like, do you want the news story or the actual the news, the news story, the news story?
	Try to see if you can find.
	Can you also in the Google prompt look for, did you do prenup in the prompt?
	What was the prompt that you typed into Google?
	You gotta make it bigger too.
	I can't read this.
	Wait, let me check it.
	Can I put Kevin Costner in divorce proceedings?
	Do you want a prenup in it?
	Yeah, do prenup.
	let's do Is there good food around here?
	No, there's no food in Santa Barbara.
	No, I said, is there good food?
	I know there's food.
	I think Isla Vista personally, like sucks for food.
	You gotta leave I love, you gotta get it, or what's that you got?
	It's too small Nick, you gotta make it bigger.
	exile that uh uh can you find the section because he's a kid you find the section about her challenging the prenup though uh is there anything is there even a mention of a prenup in the article okay it doesn't matter it doesn't matter um
	so he had a prenup She still challenged the prenup.
	I can't find the whatever.
	Where?
	Their prenuptial.
	I think it's mostly because they had kids.
	No, but she actually challenged the spousal support too.
	In the prenup, it said, in the event of a divorce, here would be the terms.
	I would pay you.
	I think, again, I think upon divorce, he would pay her $1.5 million and then some amount of spousal support.
	I think, or it was just an upfront, just a flat fee, then there would be child support.
	I mean, $250,000 a month in child support support.
	I mean, that's what it said there.
	And $250,000 of child support.
	I mean, that's ridiculous.
	That is ridiculous.
	I mean, nobody needs to be aware of that.
	That's crazy, too.
	Like, you have to pay it for how many years you were married.
	So, yeah, just marriage is a huge L for dudes.
	So that's the team.
	But I mean, okay.
	I think a good starting point for the whole marriage conversation.
	A lot of you grimaced.
	Oh, Brian, why don't you want to get married?
	Can you present to me a compelling and convincing argument for why I or other men should get married as opposed to having long-term monogamous relationships?
	It's no different.
	What do I get in marriage that I cannot get from a long-term monogamous girlfriend?
	I think it's more of just like a commitment.
	Like it's like you're giving vows to each other.
	Okay.
	That's like the only difference.
	And then it's obviously a piece of paper.
	Check this out.
	McKenna, I promise to stay with you for life.
	Boom.
	Got it.
	I don't need to go to the courthouse to get it.
	A ring and a last name.
	We can do all that without getting married.
	No, you're alright.
	I want to do that.
	Huh?
	I want to do that.
	Do what?
	You're in two situationships right now.
	What are you talking about?
	I don't want to get married to the state.
	I think that's a ring.
	I think that'd be cool.
	You could still do like a ceremony, too.
	I think marriage is for when you want one.
	I'll get it.
	That would be maybe it.
	Like, if you're ready to have kids with that woman, you get it.
	Here, let me read this.
	Wait, this one, damn straight, if that was real, that would straight up be a divorce for putting our business on the streets.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Again, the OnlyFans thing, that's a big deal there.
	But even if it was some like minor argument or big argument, like you don't put your, you don't fucking record your partner in an argument, that's fucked up.
	You're here, let me trigger this.
	Married, is it muted?
	Is the audio muted?
	Married 17 years.
	Best thing in my life.
	I was 35, knew what I wanted, found it, and she is awesome.
	I am lucky, many are not.
	The reason I could retire at 45 is I did not have to give away half my sheets and start over, and no kids to be used against me.
	Based.
	We're going to switch into the after-show at this moment, people.
	So in just a moment here, I'm going to switch the threshold down.
	It's going to be 20 to read, 69 and up to trigger TTS.
	It'll take me a minute or so to get that all set up.
	We're going to do that right now.
	I want to go around the, as I'm doing that, I want, hold on.
	Uh, What can I do while we ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	Eight.
	I'm going to go based on my shoe size, a solid five and a half.
	Okay.
	Five.
	Seven now.
	Five, no makeup and air, I guess.
	Eight.
	I'll say a seven.
	Eight.
	Like six, six point five.
	Lots of different answers.
	Got some variety here.
	Okay, it should be swapped.
	So it's 20 and up to read, answer, 69 and up for instant TTS.
	That should be enabled now.
	So letting you guys know about that.
	Let me change that, change a couple things here.
	Oh, wait.
	Did I?
	Wait, did I pull this up?
	Did I pull up the stiffler?
	Did I pull up the stiffler?
	Did I pull it up?
	Okay.
	Had to check.
	Had to check.
	is there anything anything dating related anybody oh can we do the uh should we do the lights maddie Could you do the lights?
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	Can I add to the marriage one really quick?
	Yeah, sure.
	I would still like to get married.
	I don't really care about getting married understate, but I still would like to get married in a church and make that commitment with God and my husband.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	Is there anything dating related that anybody would like to talk about?
	Damn, y'all are.
	Okay.
	I'm fried from Halloween.
	Like, Halloween in LA is like two weeks.
	I have zero brain cells.
	Zero.
	Sounds like a nice party outside, though.
	Yeah, it does sound like some crazy stuff's going on.
	Stochastic Decay donated $69.
	Hey, Brain.
	Sorry I'm late.
	Yo, yo.
	Busy day.
	Welcome back.
	I've been collabing with my favorite sound cloud rapper, Guillermo.
	Bought some blow from my boys.
	Went trick or treating.
	Anyway, Mick, congrats on freedom.
	Red, find God.
	Gordita, suck.
	Thank you.
	Gordita.
	Wow.
	I'll try.
	I'll try my best.
	Should be looking.
	I'm trying to find him.
	I just can't find him anywhere.
	He's just hiding.
	You know, every time I owned a cross necklace, it would always break.
	I took that as a sign.
	Do you have a cross necklace?
	Master necklace?
	The LB necklace.
	Every time you owned a cross necklace, it would break.
	Not the chain.
	The cross would fall off.
	I took that as a sign.
	That is some sign shit.
	I know.
	Every time.
	I took it as a sign.
	Is it Louis Vuitton?
	Yeah, this is.
	Oh, okay.
	Louis Vuitton.
	You said you wanted to get married and have kids, right?
	Yeah.
	Like, around what age are you planning to, like, set down?
	I don't know.
	I guess whenever I just find that right person, I've been with them for a while.
	I wouldn't marry right off the bat.
	Like, I know people are like with, they get married so quick and they have kids really quick, too.
	But I do want like three kids.
	Like, I'm really good with kids.
	I know, like, with my whole histories and stuff like that.
	But, like, I worked with kids a lot when I was working in high school.
	And, like, I would, even, like, the parents would come up to me and be like, oh, can we have you babysit our kid?
	And I would, like, babysit them.
	I love kids so much.
	Like, I love, love, love them.
	Huh.
	So maybe when you're like 30s?
	Yeah, probably in my 30s.
	Like, marriage and kids and stuff.
	Good times.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	I have a question here for the peoples.
	The peoples.
	We were talking earlier about seeking and sugar daddies.
	I want to get into that a little bit.
	So you were on Seeking for a decent period of time, if I recall.
	Decent period of time.
	I was on and off it, but I started on it when I was 18.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Are you not on it anymore, though?
	You stopped.
	Yeah, not on it anymore.
	From 18 to what age were you on Seeking?
	18 to 20.
	18 to 20.
	Oh, no.
	Wait, did I go around the table about who's had a sugar daddy?
	Did that mean?
	Have you had a never had a sugar daddy?
	Regulars at Hooters, but it was never like a sugar daddy that I like went out or hung out with.
	They just tipped me like 700 bucks and would come hang out with me all day while I worked.
	Yeah, still friends to this day.
	Yeah.
	Simps are ruining, dude.
	They would give you $700.
	Yeah, one guy tipped me $700 around Christmas and bought me like a diamond thing.
	That's a simple.
	But you never, they just did you come and you'd just be working at Hooters?
	They would hang out with me at work.
	Life and Amy mode.
	Life is not fair for men, I'll tell you that much.
	Hooters, Hooters is like the hub.
	Like, it's like lonely men.
	They go in there and they sit there all day.
	They drink beer.
	Like, and like, we as waitresses, we didn't have to bust tables or anything.
	We just got to talk to our like tables.
	If you're a girl and you want to make money, I feel like a lot of girls are like, I want to make money.
	I'm going to work at Hooters.
	Yeah, you make great money there.
	But also, I did webcamming, so I had a lot of simps on there too.
	Okay.
	Have you been on Seeking?
	No.
	What about you?
	No.
	No sugar daddies?
	I've dated older people.
	Even during the stripper period?
	I didn't date at all when I was a stripper.
	You didn't date at all?
	No.
	Would you ever date a customer?
	Oh, you didn't date a customer?
	I never dated.
	Any sugar daddies?
	No, I wish.
	You wish?
	Like, I've downloaded the app, but I can never just like, I can never just do it.
	It would be weird to meet a stranger like that.
	Well, I think in my mind, I'm like, please, please, please.
	I think in my mind, if I'm like, if I'm already like dating people and not getting anything out of it, I feel like I've been in places before where I'm like, well, I might as well, you know, but like I said, I can never go through with it.
	I can never actually do it.
	What about you?
	I've never had a sugar daddy, but I've had guys who pay me money just to talk to them.
	That's a sugar daddy.
	That's a sugar daddy.
	But I never met up with them.
	That's fine.
	Okay, well, does that change the answer for any of you guys, guys who just like will send you money?
	I wish.
	No, like I said, I did cam.
	Like they would like tip me really big on cam.
	But obviously you talk on cam, but that's not a sugar daddy.
	When I think sugar daddy, it's like someone you're going on dates with.
	Not necessarily.
	Not even necessarily.
	I mean, it could be, but it could also just be like maybe what about a pay pig?
	Like a guy who just, yeah, but on webcam.
	Oh, on webcam.
	Yeah, and on like my OnlyFans, I have a ton of them.
	What is that?
	Yeah, webcam.
	PayPig.
	They just like, okay, pay pigs.
	I could open up my page right now and show you where they just like tip 15, and I'm like, tip another 15, tip another 15.
	Isn't that kind of like how they tip you on your podcast?
	It's a little bit the same.
	Yeah.
	It's a little bit the same.
	I just force them.
	I once had a dude offer to send me 500 and I didn't believe him, but he did it.
	And it was weird.
	I think the differential, though, is that it's like very different between what I do and what women do.
	I am an artiste, you see.
	I am a creative.
	So these are not my pay pigs.
	These are my patrons.
	There you go.
	They are patrons.
	They are.
	It's patronage.
	Like, I'm fucking Mozart here.
	Just like dunking on cheese.
	Yeah.
	Pizzos.
	Okay.
	Just kidding, just kidding, just kidding.
	I am Mozart, Walt Disney, Nike.
	Now, who's going to be the Medici family and stand up and let me create more?
	Or are you going to marginalize me till I'm out of my moment?
	Don't think shame.
	Don't think shame.
	Nobody.
	Raven DT is one of my patrons.
	Okay.
	I put respect on my patrons' names.
	I put respect on their names.
	You got these OF girls being like fin domming these dudes.
	Degrading them.
	I love it.
	It's a bad thing to do.
	Calling them pay pigs.
	These are my patron saints.
	I have immense.
	They respect you.
	Yeah, they respect you.
	it's not really that they just they are they are like i'm like i'm michelangelo Okay.
	Who's Michelangelo?
	Are you serious right now?
	Who is she?
	Mutant Ninja Turtles?
	Oh, I'm not sure.
	I am a creative.
	They are my patrons.
	They support me.
	It's good.
	They support my art.
	I like it.
	I'm going to go.
	They support our art too.
	This is the magic drink.
	I feel like I'm a creative person.
	This is the magnum opus.
	This is my masterpiece.
	Okay.
	This is the cystine fucking chapel.
	He's not going to stop you.
	This is your empire.
	Okay, good talk.
	You can hide that neck.
	What was I talking about?
	What were we talking about?
	Oh, seeking.
	Sugar daddies.
	Oh, yeah.
	You got guys who just send you money and shit?
	Yeah, where do you meet them?
	No, I don't.
	How do you mean him?
	OF?
	Oh, Instagram, like, promotion.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, they'll follow me on Instagram.
	Or like, yeah, sometimes I did like phone calls.
	And as I said, I have dating apps and they'll follow me.
	What about you?
	Any sugar daddies?
	No, I could never have a relationship with someone for money.
	Madison?
	No.
	Okay.
	Somewhat related to this, but it's perhaps a different question.
	Has a guy ever given you an allowance?
	And I'm not talking about your father.
	I mean, like, a guy.
	Yeah, especially if you're a dad.
	You girls get those offers, right?
	Where they're like, okay, I'm going to pay you $1,000 a week.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	This is what I want.
	blah blah blah like have you had a guy who gives you an allowance in exchange for yeah okay Okay.
	How many sugar daddies do you think you've had?
	So when I was 18, I like found one.
	I found one like right off the bat and then I went off of it.
	So like I had like one and then probably in total because I just have a couple out of time.
	Bringing in the big bags.
	Yeah.
	Maybe like 15.
	15 total.
	Okay.
	What's the most that one guy has spent on you?
	Has spent on me or given me?
	Both?
	Spent on me.
	I mean, I've gotten like trips, like I've been flown out to Miami and stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	Flown out to Miami?
	Yeah.
	And like Poltrip paid for.
	Whole trip.
	Yeah.
	Whole trip.
	Yep, whole trip.
	Booked me a massage in his apartment.
	He wasn't a sugar daddy, though.
	I mean, I guess you could count it as that.
	So what's the most amount of money a guy has just given you?
	Given me?
	Yes, given you.
	Hmm.
	Not like that much.
	Come on.
	It's been a lot, right?
	No.
	It's been a lot.
	It's been a lot.
	I'm trying to get it.
	Here, tell us this.
	Tell us in like one instance and then like the total.
	One instance and then the total one.
	Like, so like, let's say a guy just like sent you 2,000 bucks.
	Okay.
	And then like the total given by one guy.
	The total given by one guy.
	Yeah, like 10,000 total, but maybe it was over the course of three months.
	And he'd send you like 500 bucks here or 500 bucks there.
	I don't know about the total, but yeah, it would have to be around 10,000, 10,000.
	10,000?
	Yeah, because I went to Paris with that money.
	Nice.
	You send your money.
	Huh?
	That's from one person?
	Yes.
	That one person.
	You went to Paris?
	Yes.
	To see him?
	No.
	See a model guy.
	Wait, he gave you $10,000?
	Yeah.
	Wait, he gave you $10,000 to go so that you can get it.
	It was like over the course of.
	Oh, he gave you $10,000 total.
	Yeah, because I wasn't singing for that long.
	Okay, but what's the most one guy has given you in one time?
	One time?
	Yeah.
	Like, here's a thousand bucks.
	One time, maybe.
	I used to get monthly allowances.
	They used to pay me like monthly.
	So it was like $4,000, $5,000?
	From one guy?
	You're getting a $5,000 allowance from one guy?
	Yes.
	And did you have, at any point, did you have multiple allowances at the same time?
	Yes.
	How many allowances total?
	Probably like three.
	Three of the time?
	Three.
	That was the most, though.
	And how much?
	The other guys were like $2,000 a month.
	$2,000 each.
	Yeah.
	So you were making $9,000 a month.
	Just off guys.
	Just off of the allowance.
	That's nice.
	But then you were also monetizing, like, in addition to the allowance, would like other guys or those guys also be like, here's a couple hundred for rent.
	Here's a couple hundred to get your nails done.
	Here's a couple hundred for your hair?
	They wouldn't.
	I wouldn't really ask for that because they would give it to me.
	Like the allowance was like, they would give it to me the first of every month, and then I would use it for like that full month.
	So I would get my nails done like every two weeks and stuff like that.
	So it was like, and my hair done, like my, I would get my hair done like every three months.
	So it was not like I was like going crazy.
	What did these guys want in return for the allowance?
	Like sex.
	Oh, so you would sleep with them?
	I would sleep with them.
	I'd like hang out with them like on their boats.
	I'd drink with them.
	Yeah, I'd be like, some of them stayed up in like Newport, like really nice, huge mansion houses, really nice.
	Okay.
	In addition to the do you what about like guys you wouldn't meet up with but like maybe you just talk to them and then they'd send you money?
	Yeah, I go through my DMs.
	Guys will be like, what's your cash app?
	I'll send them my cash app.
	It'll sell me like $500.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about like just sending pics?
	Sending feet pics.
	They want feet pics.
	Okay, that's $300.
	I've never sent feet pics.
	I mean, actually, I think I have.
	No, people have wanted feet pics, but not just feet pics.
	They'll want nudes, but showing your feet off in the nude, if that makes sense.
	Like you'll point your feet at the camera while being nude.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How much do you think...
	Is this before you started your OnlyFans?
	Grid One Motorsports donated $69.
	Did I feel kind of attacked on that one?
	Brian is doing the Lord's work.
	I donate because I can, and I feel like it is worth it to participate in the conversation.
	I also fear the sort of women my sons will be exposed to changes are needed.
	I am a trailblazer.
	I'm changing the landscape.
	Who is not offended by?
	I don't know.
	Maybe the conversation.
	Maybe you guys insinuating that they're the same thing.
	Maybe trying to figure that out either.
	Look, they're patrons.
	Go ahead.
	Wait, what were you saying?
	You were telling us about the money you were making, I guess, from.
	Oh, the money I was making?
	Yeah, I was just.
	Oh, no, no, no, my question was, okay, so, and the whole time, you've been doing OnlyFans too, right?
	No.
	When did you start?
	I just started OnlyFans in August 16th of this year.
	I don't know.
	Oh, that's pretty recent.
	Wait, so but you said from 18 is when you started like doing Seeking, Sugar Daddies, etc.
	Yeah, 18 to 20.
	I was basically because you're 21 now.
	Yes, I'm 21 now.
	I turned 21 in August.
	I basically, like, that was kind of like my income for like, I was just kind of living off of like the Sugar Daddies.
	I mean, $9,000 a month.
	Yeah.
	That's a lot of money.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I suspect you were making more than $9,000 a month, correct?
	Yeah, because including people like other people.
	Yeah, like from DMs and stuff like that.
	Like people, when I told you like, how much do you think you made?
	What's the most you think you made in a month?
	In a month?
	Before OnlyFans, I guess.
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	$15,000 a month?
	Maybe around there.
	Do you think more?
	Have you ever made it?
	No, I don't think I was making that much money.
	You've made over $10,000, though.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Okay.
	On Seeking.
	I mean, yeah, I definitely, because I went to Paris and everything, bought me a Paris.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Fuck.
	Okay.
	What else?
	Let's see.
	You said you've had some pay pig type scenarios.
	What about you?
	Tons?
	I have like cucks, feet fetish, and cucks.
	Cucks.
	Cuck holding.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so those are like my main people on my cam site.
	How do these guys, like, it seems like the feet guys and the cuck guys are very always wealthy.
	I don't get it.
	What is cuck?
	Cuck is like where they want like to watch me get fucked.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Cuck holding.
	Good times.
	But yeah, I have, like I said, I'm on a cam site and OnlyFans and Playboy.
	Okay.
	I've got a couple different incomes.
	But I had a guy from my camming site want to do like a personal Skype.
	Yeah.
	How much was that?
	Off-site?
	$10,000.
	He PayPaled me $10,000.
	Wait, when you say off-site, off of the site, the campsite.
	Oh, but it was still Cam, but it was a private session.
	Private session.
	How much did he pay?
	$10,000.
	$10,000?
	Holy shit.
	Yeah.
	It seems to me having two caring parents will provide the best possible chance for success.
	You obviously have no choice in that matter.
	Awareness of a deficit and the ability to learn seems to be another way.
	The info is out there.
	You just have to look.
	Word?
	Uh-huh.
	$10,000 for a private.
	For one Skype session.
	How long was the Skype session?
	30 to 40 minutes.
	Were you on what kind of internet connection, like dial-up?
	Skype?
	Was it like a dial-up internet connection?
	No, it was my apartment, like wireless.
	Or what?
	ATT?
	DSL?
	I don't know.
	I should check when I get home.
	Is DSL even solid?
	No, I have the best internet because I live stream.
	Yo, chat, for any of you like tech-savvy, internet-savvy people, is DSL still a thing?
	Is DSL still a thing?
	Was it DSL?
	Hello?
	It was 30 minutes, though, you said, right?
	It was 30 to 45 minutes, yeah.
	Like, the connection was pretty good, though?
	I had the, like, I was the web stream, so I made sure.
	What kind of camera are you using?
	Um, I don't know.
	I have to connect it, and I have to use OBX as well.
	You're familiar with OBX, OBS, OBX.
	What's OBX?
	OBS.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, OBS.
	Okay.
	So I have to use that as well as like 10,000.
	300 or something.
	Damn, bruv.
	Yeah.
	You're washing fucking dogs like an idiot.
	I have to wash my dogs.
	Bro, you shouldn't.
	I'm totally just kidding.
	You should just start OnlyFans.
	You could be washing dogs.
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just like film myself, wash dogs.
	You could do the whole MILF angle.
	My camming was under an alias.
	You could do it under an alias for a bit.
	And now it's just like.
	You're attractive woman.
	You're an attractive woman.
	You can do it.
	You can't have lingerie on and just wash the dogs.
	But don't do it.
	But you could do it, but don't do it.
	It was a joke.
	But don't do it.
	You could, but don't do it.
	You're trying to get right.
	Don't do it.
	I think that the industry changed my life for the better, like in a positive way.
	Yeah, I really do.
	I really, like, I think OnlyFans really changed my life.
	For the worse?
	For the better.
	For the better?
	Yeah.
	Financially.
	Yeah.
	Financially, and just like I have the freedom to create whatever content I want.
	Like the sky is the limit.
	Like I can travel whenever I want.
	I know there's downsides.
	There's cons to every job.
	There's cons to probably working at Starbucks.
	There's.
	I'm sure a lot of people think.
	Smell of coffee beans.
	I like the smell of coffee.
	My sister worked at Starbucks for a bit and she hated it.
	She's a teacher now.
	I wish my girlfriend.
	My one, if I, if I wish, I would like to make a drink.
	No, what I'm saying is, I would love if my hypothetical girlfriend smelled like coffee.
	That'd be dope.
	Really?
	Yeah, I like the smell of coffee.
	Have you ever done the coffee scrubs?
	Huh?
	Coffee scrubs?
	They're so good.
	Huh?
	Do a coffee scrub.
	Would that make you go down on her?
	No.
	What the fuck?
	She'll smell like coffee for real.
	What do you think in a month?
	How long have you been doing OnlyFans?
	Like two years.
	Two years.
	But I've been camming for like four.
	Are you down to like share the money?
	Not share with me.
	Just like how much you make or made when you are camming, anyways.
	Well, there's like three different platforms that I'm on.
	So it just depends on what platform.
	I think one of my biggest months was like 50-something, 50-60.
	50-60,000?
	Combined.
	Total.
	All the platforms.
	But my OnlyFans stays now in the OnlyFans.
	Don't give me any ideas, Madison.
	My OnlyFans stays in the five figures, I guess.
	OF is five figures.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me count that.
	Yeah, five figures.
	Okay.
	And it's continuously growing.
	I definitely don't do like a lot of pornographic stuff online.
	Sure.
	It's mostly nudity.
	I swear.
	Okay, that's fine.
	You used to be a stripper.
	How much were you making?
	Probably a ton.
	No, I was really bad at it.
	I don't like being touched, and I'm not a good dancer.
	I'm really bad at it.
	She was a bad stripper.
	Why'd you strip?
	Didn't have rent.
	Lost my best friend a few months before and kind of just went through a downward spiral.
	But now she's better.
	Yeah, you learn from all of them.
	Did you say you had sugar daddies?
	You said no, right?
	I said no.
	Yeah.
	Oh, sorry.
	Details?
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, I've had sugar daddies.
	But details, like what would you send them pictures?
	Would you talk to them?
	Would you meet up with them in person?
	Yeah, I don't do meetups, but I would do like FaceTime calls.
	And you have an allowances.
	Did they give you allowance?
	They pay me for each phone call.
	How much would you get paid for a phone call?
	Well, honestly, I charge $40 for 10 minutes to talk to them.
	But do you have longer, like, would you have a 30-minute phone call, an hour phone call?
	Yeah, but it would be more money.
	Well, yeah, so how much for like 30 minutes or an hour?
	30 minutes would be about 50.
	50?
	Yeah, because.
	Wait, 40 minutes?
	Do you do it based on minute?
	Yeah.
	You got it.
	You should do like $8 or $10 a minute.
	Oh, really?
	For 30 minutes?
	Yes.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Because, like I said, I do the camming and it's per minute.
	Like, if you're in a private room with a private chat, it's per minute.
	It's $8.
	Damn.
	Yeah, you need to update yourself.
	But you said the number.
	So is that it?
	You just do the phone calls, but there's been other payments, right?
	Yeah, I do OnlyFans.
	I just take pictures and videos and they pay me for that.
	I get to, and then, like, yeah, some people don't have OnlyFans, so they'll be like, can I pay you?
	Oh, just like, what's the most amount of money a guy's ever given you in just like a one-time go?
	Like, here's 500 bucks type of thing.
	Um, it was that one guy said that he just wanted me to talk to him, so he gave me like 400 just to talk to him.
	For how long?
	For like the day.
	Where do you find these guys?
	I was texting him.
	Texting him.
	I was talking to him, and he wanted me to send him notes.
	And I was like, okay.
	Do you know how old he was?
	Oh, he was old, but he had money and he had a girlfriend.
	And then he just broke up with his girlfriend.
	Oh.
	He said, oh, man.
	You with guys that have girlfriends.
	What's like the weirdest request you guys have gotten from your dad?
	Is it?
	I want to ask the chat on this chat.
	Why do you think men do this?
	Because they're lonely.
	Why do they do this?
	Is it loneliness?
	I'm bored with money.
	Are they lonely?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Or they're in like a room.
	Get a hobby, guys.
	Lonely, it's like a kink for them.
	Get a hobby.
	To spoil people.
	Hello?
	Yeah.
	Cheaper than a reboot.
	Go surfing.
	That's way better.
	Hello?
	I think people just like to jack off.
	That's true.
	I know.
	I know.
	I get it that men are lonely, but it's like.
	I feel like they're just so deprived.
	It's just like.
	Video call is going to satisfy their needs.
	It's just easy, too.
	It's so accessible now.
	Like 20 years ago, they had to be buying like a Playboy.
	Oh, they had to buy like a Playboy magazine.
	Not as accessible.
	Now they can just.
	It's just a click and a click.
	Purchase.
	It's weird how life has been from like the 19 whatevers to now.
	So many different things have became normal that weren't normal.
	Right.
	Like women used to not even be able to vote at one point.
	That's crazy.
	And now it's like so normal.
	Women can vote.
	Women have been able to vote for over a hundred years.
	I know.
	I'm just saying.
	I said from like the 1800s to now, just like how many different things in history.
	A lot has changed in 200 years.
	Constantly is like getting normalized.
	Whoa.
	Getting worse.
	Did I blow your mind?
	My mind is blown.
	Let me read a couple chats.
	Grid one motorsports.
	The look on 18 up Snow White's face during the Sugar Daddy conversation is priceless.
	Who's that?
	18 up Snow White?
	Me?
	Maybe, I don't know.
	18 up Snow White.
	I think it might be me because I'm OnlyFans says I'm 18.
	Oh, you lie on your OnlyFans?
	You say you're 18 on OnlyFans?
	Yeah, rated number one, 18-year-old on OnlyFans.
	Oh, that's a good little tactic.
	Yeah, but you're red.
	They were calling you red.
	Snow White is someone different from you.
	I know, but I know she's 13, but I don't want to go.
	What is 18 up?
	I mean, send money again so you can respond to that dark-haired girl.
	Can you clarify?
	We have Seaberg.
	She could have hit it.
	He said in the corner.
	Madison, can you read this one?
	Ranking on physical appearance and personality/slash value, starting with red.
	Physical appearance, nine, values, two.
	Oh, here, sorry, I'll pull it back up.
	Physical appearance, five, values, five.
	Appearance, seven, values, nine, appearance, eight, values, ten.
	Five, three, five, seven.
	Just one man's opinion.
	Okay, thank you, Seaberg.
	We have Banksta.
	Red has no chance with having a successful marriage, maybe good with kids because she has their mindset, but will be divorced within a year.
	Go talk to your dad about picking a good man.
	Mick, speak up and help Brian stop letting him embarrass him.
	Wait, what?
	Stop letting him embarrass himself.
	Wait, me?
	Am I embarrassing myself?
	How is he embarrassing himself?
	That's a good question.
	We have Riker Carlson.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I think this is one of the better podcasts.
	Everyone's chilling.
	People aren't going off the rails.
	Brian's keeping a good conversation going and everyone's staying positive.
	Longest I've listened before.
	I don't know.
	I was pretty tilted at the beginning.
	And thank you, though.
	Thank you for it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Tommy, would you rather have a rich, successful partner who works all the time but doesn't have as much time to spend with you?
	Or partner who has no goals or doesn't or and doesn't work much but spends almost all his time with you going around the table?
	Guy like, barely listen to that.
	That was a lot, my bad um, can you shorten it a little bit?
	Yeah, I got you a rich, working partner that's successful, that doesn't spend too much time with you, or someone that doesn't work at, someone that spends time with me.
	That is not that successful.
	They don't need to be that successful.
	I just want someone to spend time with me going around the table.
	So I pretty much have that already.
	Like, my boyfriend works like 90 hours a week, so we only have sundays and like nighttime after like nine o'clock.
	So oh, let's continue on that, I guess.
	Oh, this one bank store donated 69.
	Who is paying these 304s?
	Who would be proud of this?
	Men, stop doing this vs. It's more women than men.
	We are more air, so let's stop supporting nonsense and make them support men.
	I know you're not going to, but come on men, Miquay CUP.
	Thank you Banksta, appreciate it.
	Man, who is paying these three foes.
	Lonely men, man.
	Lonely men.
	Um, all right, it was uh.
	Would you rather have a rich, successful partner who works all the time but doesn't have as much time to spend with you, or a partner who has no goals and doesn't work much but spends almost all of his time with you?
	Which one I already answered?
	Um, if I would have to choose someone successful um, but I wouldn't really want either I would choose the time one, but I don't like the no goals part.
	Yeah um, I do want a guy who's rich and says successful, but I love like, quality time.
	Honestly, I would rather have somebody that um has success and does their own thing a lot of the time.
	Let's say success.
	We have grid one.
	Whoa, I am old, I guess.
	The dark-haired girl in the corner in the white snow-white blouse.
	Wait, what did you say about her?
	Aw.
	Oh, you do kind of look like snow-white.
	Yeah.
	What's the 18 and up, though?
	18 and up, snow-white.
	Maybe is it because Snow White?
	Yeah, she like a no.
	She said, what's this?
	What's Snow White's story?
	Is that in the Seven Dwarves?
	Oh, it's because she was like 12 or 13, really like in the original story.
	Hold on, let me google this.
	That's crazy Snow White age.
	This is gonna get me on the list.
	What the?
	She's 14, she's 14 hundred.
	I did not know that.
	What why, what's this prince doing dude?
	What the?
	Okay, but back then they did date very young.
	It was different because it was normalized.
	It was back then.
	And well, like Snow White, you know, you know, I don't know Snow White, I don't know what year that was made, but like back back in the old days, it was very young.
	Back in the old days people okay no run no no no no, all right, what do we have here?
	What else we got?
	What else we got?
	Uh, I had a note here.
	I think Madison wanted to ask a question.
	What?
	I'm not a mind reader, Madison.
	Why don't you tell me?
	Well, we were going around the table about.
	Oh, wait.
	I think I asked, like, what's like the weirdest requests you've gotten from a sugar daddy?
	Oh, yeah.
	Um, I've gotten some weird ones that you've done.
	Oh, that I've done?
	Oh, I've done like no weird ones.
	Okay, maybe the other ones.
	Let's be honest, though, you have.
	Oh, I swear.
	Come on.
	I've only done like female daddy.
	Be honest.
	Yeah, I swear.
	I think the weirdest one: someone wanted to buy like my like pee or like my socks too, my dirty socks.
	I've heard that one before.
	And bathwater.
	I've gotten bathwater, too.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	That's super interesting.
	What about you, Haley?
	So it wouldn't be from a sugar daddy because I've never had one, but one of my subscribers, I don't even know if I can say this.
	It's disgusting.
	They requested like a scat video.
	Yikes.
	That's a yikes.
	Where you like.
	Yeah, we get that.
	Disgusting.
	And I did not do it.
	There's no amount of money.
	Really?
	Hell no.
	Really?
	He couldn't have paid me $20,000 to do that video.
	Oh, I remember what I was going to say.
	$9,000 a month with the sugar daddy allowances.
	How old were you?
	Like 18, 19?
	And you were making $9,000 a month?
	Me?
	Or you said more even.
	Yeah, you.
	19, 20.
	19, 20?
	It's kind of like life on easy mode, don't you think?
	Yeah, yeah, it definitely was.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, she agrees.
	Cool.
	Because there's not like, and again, I say this all the time.
	There's not like 18, 19, 20-year-old men who are having their life financed by semi-older women.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Like, that's just not a thing.
	Like, as a guy, if you're.
	There's like even average girls who are making bank, like making a lot of money, upwards of five figures a month, doing this kind of sugar daddies seeking whatever it is.
	Like, there's not dudes out there that are 18.
	I would even argue really like attractive dudes don't have this level of access.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I feel really bad.
	You know what?
	I think we need equality.
	I demand men, we need equality when it comes to we need more female pay pigs.
	I think feminists should start fighting for equality on OnlyFans.
	Men should be paid just as much as women on OnlyFans.
	It's only fair.
	Equal pay for equal work.
	Hello.
	Same with sugar daddies.
	You know what?
	Here, I'm going to reclaim.
	I'm going to.
	McKenna.
	Do you believe in?
	You said you were feminist, right?
	Do you believe in equal pay for equal work?
	Equal pay for equal work.
	Yeah.
	You're successful.
	You're making good money with your OnlyFans and sugar daddies.
	I feel like we need to equal.
	We need equality.
	And I think you seem like a trailblazer.
	Okay.
	What's shit?
	There's a specific term I'm thinking of for this.
	Be the change you want to see in the world.
	I think you should pay me an allowance.
	What do you think about that?
	What are you going to do for me, though?
	I will have.
	Are you going to get down on her?
	No.
	I'm not doing that.
	I'm not going to pay you.
	I'm not doing that.
	I will.
	Listen.
	I feel, McKenna, and this is the value proposition that I'm about to make.
	You know, you have these transient sexual encounters, casual sex partners.
	You've never had a boyfriend.
	I will be the emotional support that you need.
	We're not going to fuck, though.
	I'm not down to have sex with you, but I will be there for you.
	My rate is $7,000 a month.
	What do you say?
	That's pretty much my allowance.
	But I will, all your boyfriend needs, I will be there for you virtually.
	I won't see you in person.
	You live in San Diego.
	I'm sorry, it's too far.
	True, true.
	If you need to talk about something, my rate's $7,000 a month.
	What do you think?
	What do you think?
	Maybe five, but I gotta do five.
	Are we actually?
	Is this illegally binding?
	We're gonna sign up.
	When can you sign it in blood?
	When can you start?
	Wait, is this kind of an L, though, for me?
	You're so sad.
	Let me ask the chat.
	Chat, is this an L?
	Because it is kind of the reverse finesse.
	Let's see what the chat thinks.
	Is this like a W or is it an L?
	Like, is it a W for me or is it an L?
	Down payment.
	Is it a W?
	Like, because it's the reverse finesse?
	It's an L?
	Some people are saying it's a W.
	I see W in there.
	There's a lot of L's.
	There's a lot of.
	Okay.
	I think it's a W.
	I think it's a W. Because what's more gangster?
	Like, I'm doing the reverse finesse.
	I'm sure there's the reverse finesse.
	I'm sure that there's some guys.
	It's almost like justice.
	Justice for all the men out there who are spending a shit ton of money.
	Who's okay, all right?
	I think it's kind of a W. Right?
	No?
	You have to find someone who's willing to spend that on you.
	Huh?
	You have to find someone who's willing to spend that on you.
	Okay, all right.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	What do you think about girls who sell their feet?
	I wouldn't.
	Are you asking me?
	Yeah.
	Like, do you put them in the same category as girls who only fans are like.
	I mean, there's degrees to all this shit, right?
	So I feel like a girl who takes, like, if there's a girl who's like full nude, who does like prawn compared to a girl who just sells her feet.
	I mean, it's still like undesirable.
	I would say it's definitely undesirable in the partner, but it's not as bad as a girl, but it's still not, I wouldn't say it's just fine.
	I will say, I will say, I can kind of see the draw, though.
	Like, you're like, someone wants to pay you $500 to, boom, take it, take 10 seconds to take a photo of your feet.
	I kind of get it, you know.
	Like, let's ask the chat, chat.
	And I don't know, some of you are already established, successful.
	Let's say you're back, you're 18, you know, you're a broke college kid.
	Some chick DMs you, some chick messages you, and she's like, I'll pay you $500 for you to send me a picture of your foot.
	Do you do it, chat?
	Do you do it?
	Chat?
	Would you do it?
	Chat, hello?
	$10.
	$10?
	It's not just a feet pick.
	Okay, see, I was like, yeah.
	Some girls, like, just a foot pic, not nudity.
	Just like, send me a picture of your foot.
	What?
	You could go where you what you okay.
	Let's say if you're getting paid $10 an hour.
	I mean, I know in some places it's more.
	You're getting paid $10 an hour, a minimum wage job, but that's 50 hours of work.
	Or some paid patron saint chick wants to.
	I don't know, okay.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	What other things can we talk about?
	Oh, let's do the Sean Strickland video.
	Let's finally get rid of that.
	Let's finally get that done.
	Do you remember the time?
	Is it like 1050 or something?
	1045?
	10.40.
	I think I've seen videos of this guy.
	To these fucking dirty Brazilians.
	Oh, my God.
	You fucking goofed to that.
	Okay.
	Jesus Christ.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, some shit, man.
	Americans, we need to go back to like taking women out of the workforce.
	And maybe that's, and maybe that is where we, maybe that's where we fucked up, you guys.
	We let women vote.
	No offense.
	But let me tell you, no, no, I want to tell you guys something.
	Think about America prior to women voting.
	They try to ban alcohol.
	I don't even drink, but I'm not trying to ban alcohol.
	So what you did, man, you let these women come in the workforce.
	Now we make less money.
	You got kids raising themselves on fucking TikTok.
	We need to go back to like 1942, you know, especially after, you know, maybe 1958 after he fucked up the Germans.
	We need to put women back in the kitchen.
	We need to take fucking, only one man needs to be working.
	So I think as a collective man group, we need to elect somebody that's going to put women back in the kitchen, put one man working, raise the wages, and build a fucking wall.
	Have you ever thought about going to Senator?
	Positive positive positive reaction to the clip.
	I always think that the olden times were nice, and I'd wish that we'd go back to them too.
	So you agree with what he said?
	A little, I guess.
	A little, I guess.
	I don't know.
	Some of it's kind of just like silly.
	But just like five minutes ago, you were saying, can you imagine back then when women couldn't vote?
	That's crazy to me.
	He wants to take away your right to vote.
	That's wrong.
	You think it's wrong?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why should I not be allowed to vote?
	No, but you were kind of like co-signing on his.
	Not on the voting part.
	Oh, but everything else you're like.
	Like, I do agree that like back in the day, like some things were better.
	But also saying put women in the kitchen.
	Like, okay, you got to understand there's a lot of people that are in relationships that are abusive and they rely on their spouse, the man, to take care of them.
	And they're stuck in that situation.
	So like I do feel bad for people like that, you know?
	So I don't think that it should be throw the women back in the kitchen.
	I think everyone should work.
	Okay.
	I think it should be equal.
	Sure.
	I thought it was kind of funny.
	It was funny.
	He had a couple of points.
	I think there's a lot of screwed up things and a lot of it is not blaming women, but I think a lot of it, like there was a line and then everybody just kind of crossed it by miles.
	So I think he's a little out there, but he makes sense to some things.
	Just a little funny.
	You were cracking up.
	The way he worded that was just hilarious.
	That was really funny.
	So I do agree with the overall point of what he's trying to say.
	However, how he says it and how we come across, how he comes across, it's going to be really hard to get people to agree with what he's saying.
	So he needs to word that differently.
	He's a straight shooter, though.
	He's a straight shooter.
	He could be straight and not come off like that, though.
	Yeah, I came off kind of dickish.
	Yeah.
	I agree with him, but I also feel like, yeah, maybe a woman should work maybe from home, not something like, what a man, a man's job.
	Sure, what about you?
	He is definitely speaking of facts about having children.
	Every relationship is different, though, so.
	But when it comes to having kids, I think a more traditional household where a woman stays at home and a man goes to work will always work better.
	Mick?
	I think a lot of what he said is very true, but I think it's he, yeah, he said it very straight shooter-like and aggressive.
	So, I don't know.
	I co-sign.
	I wish I didn't have to work.
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	I'll take care of the kids.
	We have a couple chats here.
	Let me get them.
	Oh, Seaberg.
	I don't know why it didn't trigger.
	From an economics POV.
	A person will only value the money they earn based on the difficulty to acquire.
	Easy come, easy go.
	The amount of money you earn isn't what is important.
	It's what you put into earning it.
	And by adding value.
	Yo, Seaberg, thank you very much.
	Sorry the beginning of that was not triggered.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's see.
	Personal.
	Oh, okay.
	That's beautiful.
	Tommy Kowalski, what's your definition of a successful man?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	I mean, whatever he defines that success is, I feel like it's what his beliefs are.
	If he's happy in what he does and his job and he's a healthy man and, you know, he's got a good life, good head on his shoulders, then I consider that successful.
	That's beautiful.
	Someone who works really hard for their money and also someone that's motivated and driven and can like actually like do finances really well, I guess.
	Okay.
	Someone that has a purpose and lives to their purpose, also puts his physical and mental health first as a priority.
	Drive that's backed up by consistency.
	Yeah, I mean your life together.
	I think that's success.
	Like not just by money in any aspect.
	Someone that is disciplined, hardworking, and passionate.
	I would say someone who's happy.
	I agree.
	I feel like a lot of people try to bring success to how much money you make, but I feel like success is so much more than that.
	It's about like how happy you are with what you're doing.
	Someone who's passionate, someone who's well-driven.
	Yeah.
	Okay, we have Cam H here, if you can pull that back up.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Really appreciate your support.
	Love the conversation.
	I needed some advice and am newly single, whatever podcast rocks.
	Well, you were, what's Cam H, he was asking in the previous show.
	I recognize the name.
	Did you have a question for us?
	Do you want, we'd happy to give you some advice, man.
	Just ask a question.
	Thank you very much for your super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's see.
	We have Seaberg here for the OF girls.
	How do you feel after a session with one of your guys?
	Do you feel fulfilled?
	Happy, lonely, nothing, etc.
	I feel fulfilled because it's a guy that I actually enjoy doing stuff with.
	I would never do stuff with a guy that I don't want to have sex with or film content with.
	I film content with people that I very trust and I'm comfortable with.
	So I feel like I have an amazing time because I've just had some really great sex on camera.
	Oh, because I mean, you said that you've, I mean, you've had sex with men for money.
	So I assume some of these men, you wouldn't otherwise have sex with them if it wasn't for the money.
	The guys that I, yeah, for sure.
	Like, but they are, like, really cool guys.
	Like I said, like, the guys that I, the sugar daddies I would have aren't like super old.
	I'd have like 30s between in their 40s.
	And they were like really cool guys.
	Like I said, like some of them would have both.
	Some of them would fly me out places.
	Like they're actually guys I could hang out with.
	Like I'm not going to like have a relationship with a guy like that that I don't even like.
	You know what I mean?
	If you like them, why do you need the money from them?
	Because I don't want to be in a relationship.
	I liked having a sugar daddy because they didn't have time for relationships.
	So they would make it a transactional thing, which I enjoyed because I could still have company and time with them without knowing that they're going to fall in love with me or something like that.
	Okay.
	What was the question again?
	How do you feel after a session with one of your guys?
	Do you feel fulfilled, happy, lonely, nothing, etc.?
	A session as far as like me just being on OnlyFans talking with my fans.
	Yeah, I'm not sure what Seaberg means by session.
	Each session means like you hooking up with someone.
	I don't do like, like I said, I don't do a lot of pornographic content.
	Like it's only me.
	You're right.
	I have like, I have some home films.
	I'll say that.
	But yeah, I feel filled.
	I like making money.
	And I don't think that it's like, maybe I just got used to it.
	I don't know.
	I've been in the industry for like three, four years.
	So like it doesn't bother me at all.
	Like I feel happy and like I'm very, very interactive with my subscribers.
	So like I talk to them all the time.
	I'm checking my OnlyFans like every three hours.
	Like it doesn't bother me.
	Do you really respond to the people though?
	Or do you have like a yeah?
	I do voice notes every day.
	Like you got what?
	I do voice notes every day.
	So you don't have some team in Guatemala that's responding on your behalf?
	No, I don't.
	So at nighttime, I do have some help of a chatter.
	Like I split it up.
	But they know me really well.
	They know how to answer.
	But like I'm really interactive with my subscribers.
	But I also like I can't do it myself because I have like 40,000 people on there.
	Like how am I gonna, how am I gonna like talk to 40,000?
	Like, you know?
	But I guess the where my issue comes with it is they think they're talking to you, but they're not.
	But they are though, because like I said, I'm sending out voice notes and especially.
	No, but you said you have chatters.
	No, I said I have one person that helps me during nighttime.
	So what are they doing during nighttime?
	Okay.
	So it's not you who's messaging them, but the people who are paying to have the privilege of messaging you think it's you.
	When it's it depends on also like I have my folders of people.
	Like my VIP clients, I talk to only them.
	No chatters talk to him.
	It's only me.
	The chatters kind of talk to like the new people that come in there at like nighttime that are like new.
	But they still think it's you.
	Yeah.
	Don't you think that's misleading?
	No.
	How is it not misleading?
	Because I'm very hands-on with it.
	I'm constantly talking with my chatter.
	And if there's ever a time where I like want to jump on there and chat, I get on there.
	Like I said, I really like put a lot of time into my own account.
	I'm on there and how is it not misleading?
	Because it's like just help.
	But okay.
	If the value that I think I'm getting is that I am actually talking to the person, but it's not, I'm talking to some like Guatemalan dude.
	It's not like that.
	It's like a friend of mine.
	A male friend?
	No, girl.
	It's a girlfriend?
	But it's not you.
	But it's someone that knows me really well, knows how to talk like me.
	And like I said.
	That's even worse, but okay.
	Flatfishing.
	But it's not, though, because like I said, I'm still on there constantly.
	I can't.
	It's technically fraud.
	I can't be on there at midnight.
	Like, I can't.
	Well, but so you could opt to not monetize at that period of time.
	But why would I not want to monetize?
	That would be like.
	Well, look, I accept that women who have OnlyFans do this.
	They have people who chat on their behalf, where I believe it goes into the territory of like misleading or, I mean, fraud is if you're representing that you, like, oh, you're going to be talking to me.
	You pay this much, you're talking to me.
	Like, where's the disconnect?
	Because I'm saying, what I'm trying to strictly point out is they think they're talking to you, but they're not.
	They don't know that they're talking to Becky when they could be talking to Haley.
	No, I get what you're saying, but like I said, it's a very brief, like little bit, and it's faint.
	It's not exactly what I think.
	Because I'm on there non-stop.
	What if you paid for a donut and got a bagel?
	You feel pretty similar.
	You know what I'm saying?
	They're still getting my photos.
	They're still getting my voice notes.
	They're still getting my radio.
	So they're still getting me.
	And have him, you know?
	Like, I can't.
	How many of you have to do it?
	If your chatter is acceptable, Land's not lying.
	How will you feel when you are replaced by AI girls?
	Can I say that?
	They want us to have AI girls.
	No, I actually just did something.
	It's called Sugar World that's coming out.
	That's like a thing.
	Yes, I just did an AI scan in LA a couple months ago.
	It's for this AI game.
	How much did they pay you?
	They didn't pay me money, but I get money from the guys who buy for the character on a date and have to take them on a date to have sex with them.
	And it's like a whole thing.
	Oh, and it's free.
	But so you get like a, not commission.
	No, I do get a percentage.
	No, you get a percentage, but I feel like commission isn't the right word.
	You get a cut or what's the right word for this?
	Percentage.
	Sure.
	That's what I think.
	Has it been released yet?
	It's not released.
	I think it's released in November.
	I actually have a call with them soon.
	Bro, I'm telling, I mean, like, we put some, sometimes we put AI girls in the thumbnails, and like, you can make literally 10 out of 10 women that look pretty fucking real.
	The thing is.
	Like, stable diffusion and shit.
	It's insane.
	I've also seen stuff where people are like, they ask like porn stars to come on podcasts.
	They're like, oh, do you think AI is going to take over?
	And I don't think that's the case because all guys are going to want to see the real thing all the time.
	AI is just a thing that's like kind of keeping them occupied.
	It's just like a side thing.
	But they're always going to want to see the real you, real content, like real upcrysts.
	Sure.
	Stuff like that.
	The raw stuff.
	Yeah.
	And also, like, I don't think the AI thing will ever fly either because like they can't just make like a bunch of AI girls.
	Like my fans on OnlyFans are fans of me.
	They're not fans of like.
	Well, the thing is, is with the AI, like the images, some of them are very fucking convincing.
	Like some of them are like really good.
	Like research it's so I do think it will actually conceivably get to the point where the images are so good that you won't be able to tell if it's a real person or not.
	And that's when like fucking 10 out of 10 AI chicks are just gonna fucking sweep.
	It's probably gonna be like a bunch of sweep.
	But there'll be a bunch of guys doing it.
	Yeah, there'll still be a demand for like real women or whatever, but I'm actually all for it.
	The AI stuff.
	When I went there, they literally did a full body scan.
	They had cameras everywhere.
	I had to make like orgasm faces and stuff like that.
	I had to do voice.
	They're using my voice in it.
	Who's your manager?
	My manager.
	You don't have a manager?
	No, I don't manage it.
	You should, I mean, if I was your manager, I would be like, yeah, you get a cut, but also you get some sort of upfront flat fee payment to do this too.
	There's no way I would like let my, and I don't do OnlyFans management.
	There's no way I would let the girl I'm managing, like, we get something up front too.
	And a piece of the back end.
	Oh, like the manager that was like managing me would get something.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like you said you went to this place, you spent hours at this place.
	No, I didn't spend hours.
	It took me like 20 minutes.
	Okay.
	I mean, I think it's.
	The scan was really quick.
	They also did a vaginal scan.
	They did a pussy scan?
	Yeah, San Diego?
	It was in LA.
	Your legs are like spread open on like Sugarworld.
	Okay, I've not heard about this.
	Yeah, it's like little Pigboy are helping out with it.
	This company, Honeybird Debt, that's a really big lingerie company doing it.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	But no, look, I just think it's, and look, I know that for, especially like OnlyFans creators who have a lot of people, they have chatters.
	But it's like the person who is chatting is chatting with the per they're not like, hi, I'm chatter.
	Like, they don't, they're not upfront about the fact that it's not you.
	Yeah.
	Like, they're not like, hi, I'm Gustavo.
	A lot of agencies do do that.
	Like I said, they do.
	And they'll have the chatters.
	Like, a girl will never log onto her page.
	Like, I have friends that don't log onto their pages at all.
	It just completely ran.
	I'm not like that.
	I don't work like that.
	I'm on their own.
	But you do have a chatter.
	I do to help me.
	Like, at nighttime, like I said, but it's like for like two hours in the middle of the night.
	You only sleep two hours?
	No, but like I'm saying as far as like how much I pay for it.
	How much are you chatting?
	Are you like on your phone?
	I am on my, like I've had anxiety this whole time, like not being like being off my phone for four hours.
	Not anxiety.
	Like it's been fun.
	But I'm like, oh my God.
	Can you imagine dating an OnlyFans girl and she's like talking to a guy for 16 hours a day, texting him?
	Even though she has no intention of fucking him, she's like, oh, I want your cock so bad.
	This is why I don't think girls are.
	As soon as I get in the Uber, I'm going to have to sit on my phone for like two hours.
	Even if OF girls.
	He could imagine.
	Yeah, he's been.
	He could imagine that.
	Yeah, you know what it's like.
	That's cheating.
	I have a question, though, for you.
	It could be considered cheating.
	I can see that.
	You said you have 40,000 subs about?
	Yeah.
	Which is low.
	That's on the low end.
	That's on the low end?
	Compared to my friends.
	Because I would say, isn't it like majority of girls can maybe get 100 if they're lucky?
	I mean, but like, how did you get, like, how do so many people know about it?
	Like, without a marketing team behind you?
	I promote it on my Instagram.
	I know, but how many subscribers do you have on your Insta?
	I have 65,000 on Instagram, but I also do a lot of collabs.
	Like, I collab with girls that are huge.
	Oh, okay.
	So that's where some of it's coming from.
	Yeah, it's like floated from other girls and like collaborative.
	So do you like message them first?
	The girls I collab with?
	Yeah.
	I just, I've been in the industry.
	I know these people personally.
	Like I know some like huge porn stars.
	Yeah, the whole chatter thing though.
	Because I mean, even Keely never got to that, that level.
	And after all the years and stuff, she never got 40,000 subs.
	Did she live in LA?
	Did she live in LA?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, she just wasn't networking around the right people.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Because like I said, I don't do porn online.
	Like, I just do nudity.
	Yeah, and she did actual porn and it's like, and never got any of that.
	I feel like I would do it if I got an offer.
	That's good enough.
	But I'm not interested in it right now, though.
	For porn hub and stuff.
	Yeah, she definitely didn't want to do it.
	It was like, it was just because of lockdowns and like not no other income.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the whole chatter thing, though, that's.
	Like, everyone does it, though.
	I know.
	No, it's super common for girls who do OnlyFans to have somebody on there.
	A lot of times it's a dude too.
	It's a dude talking to a dude pretending to be a chick.
	That's a little fruitful.
	Like, fucking.
	But that's how you know it's me because mine are always voice notes.
	I never, I hate, I hate typing, and imagine typing 50 times over.
	Does your chatter, does your chatter on your OnlyFans, does he say, by the way, you're not actually talking to Haley, you're talking to someone who's not her.
	Basically, they do my mass messages at nighttime.
	So they just take, do you know the back end of my phone?
	They don't send any like one-on-one messages.
	No, they take my mass messages and they send them by the folders that they're under.
	I've organized it to where there's different folders.
	There's no back and forth.
	They don't do any like one-on-one back and forth.
	No, because when I wake up in the morning, that's like the first thing I'm doing for three hours.
	And mine are voice notes, like I said.
	Like these people know it's me because I'm talking to them.
	Okay.
	And I do the same thing on my webcam like I do.
	There's a lot of girls out there that have, that they don't, I think, like you said, they don't even touch their own.
	Oh, I have a good friend that has to be in the middle of the day.
	She never looks at her.
	They don't even log in.
	She doesn't even do her own payouts.
	She just lets them do it.
	That's crazy.
	It's pretty misleading.
	I have to do it.
	I think it's pretty misleading.
	I'm so obsessive.
	I have to know what's going on all the time.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I had one last question.
	Then Maddie's going to do a bit of an after show.
	Then we're going to wrap.
	Let's see.
	Oh, my last question is, you earlier mentioned, said you had a friend who, she was, fuck, what was she doing?
	She, Something about her body count.
	This was back during the list.
	Oh, like she was like a really dirty bitch.
	What?
	Not my words.
	My words.
	I'll say her.
	Hi, friend.
	Oh, your friend.
	Not my friend anymore, but.
	Your friend with a high body count, she was selling something?
	Was she.
	No, she wasn't selling anything.
	I don't remember what it was.
	I think I know her.
	What was the thing with your friends that you mentioned very early on in the conversation?
	My friends?
	You said you had a friend who had a crazy list?
	Wait.
	No, I think we were talking about the Sugar Daddies where I said that she would have sex with Sugar Daddies for such a long amount of money.
	And they were really dirty guys.
	She had gonery and chlamydia in the same week.
	That's so yashi.
	She's so bad.
	She literally would get in my car.
	She'd be like, can we go to CVS anymore?
	I got her in medication.
	I was like, girl.
	I was like, oh, hell no.
	Was she just like a normal civilian?
	She was younger than me.
	She's like a year.
	I think she's a year younger than me.
	She's really, she was really, really gnarly, though.
	Like, it was really bad.
	And she was also just an awful friend.
	Did she like to hook up with regular guys too?
	Really dirty?
	Yeah, she hooked up with regular guys.
	I was the one who introduced her to Seeking because she needed to get a new car and stuff.
	And she literally, she also just like, we stopped being friends too because the guy, my situation shipped, she matched with him on Tinder and sent me a screenshot of it and then blocked me on everything.
	And then I and then I asked the guy, I was like, so why the fuck would you swipe right on a dirty bitch?
	Like, you know, she was dirty as hell.
	And he was like, oh, I thought it'd be funny.
	I was like, funny?
	That's not funny.
	And I told him, I was like, you finna get gone over your antichlamedia because that's when she had it.
	I was like, good luck.
	I was like, that's hard to get.
	What?
	For all the people that she slept with, way more than me.
	Like, just for money?
	Oh, wait, it's in the hundreds.
	Hundreds?
	Hundreds.
	It's a lot of people.
	She's in San Diego?
	Yeah.
	Let's get her on the show.
	I don't even want to give her that clout like that.
	She dirty.
	Oh, you don't like her?
	No, I don't like her at all.
	She fucked me over.
	She was, she was, she's a very awful.
	She would come on here and try to probably sabotage too.
	She's grimy.
	She's really grimy.
	She's awful.
	She's really awful.
	She literally showed me, oh my god, this is so nasty.
	She showed me her vibrator one time and it was just covered in dry ass, like, discharge.
	She doesn't clean it.
	She didn't clean it.
	She didn't clean it.
	It's disgusting.
	You're making it.
	She's literally making my skin.
	No, it's disgusting.
	And she would be like, she'd eat the kitchen.
	Oh, my God.
	She would also eat guys' ass.
	Like, she loved that.
	She got pink eye from it, too.
	She got pink eye one time.
	She's gnarly.
	She's so gnarly.
	How is she doing now?
	I have no idea.
	Don't talk to her.
	I don't talk to her.
	I don't talk to her.
	But I remember I checked to see if my situationship was still following her.
	This was like a really long time ago, and he was following her.
	And I was like, I swear to God, I'm going to beat your fucking ass.
	I was like, I will rip your throat out of my teeth.
	Like, don't even follow that bitch.
	A.
	She was a hoeer.
	B, she was a hoeer.
	Okay, wow.
	Sorry, got a little intense.
	Your body count was in the hundreds.
	Didn't you know her in high school?
	I started being friends.
	No, she was in my rivalry high school.
	So we're like in the same kind of neighborhood, but she went to my rival high school.
	Was she like saluting it up in high school too?
	She started in high school, and then she started like going to like college guys, and she just messes with like really gross guys, and like they treat her awful too.
	Like really bad.
	What do you think her body count was in high school?
	In high school?
	I think she started like her junior year.
	I think that's when she started.
	She started like it had to be a huge.
	Do you think she had a hundred plus body count?
	Maybe 75.
	I'd give it 75.
	End of high school?
	Yes.
	75 body count.
	I swear.
	Let's get this chick on the show.
	I gotta talk to her.
	She's so.
	She's nasty.
	You feel like what?
	I'm from San Diego too, so I feel like I really want to know who this person is.
	Really?
	After we're gonna talk, girl, I'm like, I mean, like, you know people around you.
	Yeah, San Diego's kind of like, I know people.
	It's big, but it's small.
	Yeah.
	You just know people.
	Okay.
	Good to know.
	She has me blocked on everything too, so it's not like I could give you a question.
	Would you say she's the girl who, of the girls you know, who probably has the highest body count?
	Yes.
	Like, have you heard any high body counts from any of your female friends?
	No, that's for sure.
	She's the dirtiest girl I know in the highest body count for sure.
	Word?
	Question for everyone.
	What's the highest body count you've heard from a girl that you know?
	I've never had that conversation with a girl.
	Oh, you don't know?
	Okay.
	Really?
	Even at the strip club?
	Never like.
	Okay.
	Definitely in the hundreds.
	In the hundreds?
	Yeah.
	Corona, California?
	Of course.
	From Corona River South.
	Are they available to be on the show, I think?
	Or you still know them?
	You know her?
	Yeah, there's quite a few.
	Literally.
	You should have invited them along.
	All right, what about you?
	I knew a girl, but she never told me her body count, but she would have sex a lot.
	Like, maybe in a month, I've seen her be with like 20 guys.
	20 dudes in a month?
	Wait, let's do the math on that.
	Okay, so there's 12 months in a year.
	The times 12, that's 240, right?
	Is that 240 in a year?
	Like, if it's 20 a month, 20 times 12, 240.
	20 times 12.
	Three years, after four years, maybe four years and three months, that's a thousand body count.
	Yeah, and she would tell me stories of her meeting up with guys, and she would say that she's a virgin.
	That's bro, can you imagine?
	Like, you think you have a virgin girl, and she's actually fucked like a thousand.
	She's happy.
	Yeah, she told me she would meet up with some guys and be like, oh, yeah, I'm a virgin.
	How do you even lie about that?
	Wouldn't they know?
	Yeah, they would know.
	They'd be like, why is she so experienced?
	Yeah, like their experience, their pussy, everything.
	How can I say that?
	Sorry.
	No, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	Get the rocks.
	Abdul?
	Yeah, get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	Maybe like 50 to 100.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	Let me get the chats done.
	Oh.
	Wait, actually.
	Should body count matter?
	No.
	Okay, it depends how long ago it was.
	Like, 'cause with me, like, that that was a while ago.
	Now I don't be having sex like that anymore.
	Kenna?
	I'm being serious.
	I then made a promise.
	I'm gonna have a boyfriend.
	I swear.
	But no, I feel like it depends if it was like a hoe phase, and if it was like over, and it's been like years.
	But also, they could be lying, so I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	So I feel like, I don't know.
	I feel like it kind of matters because if a guy came up to me and he was like, I have this much, I'd still be like, I'd be like, I wouldn't really say anything, but I'd be like, that's a lot.
	Let me change the question.
	Do you object to men caring about body count?
	Women, a woman's body count?
	Like a high amount.
	Yeah.
	Like, do you think that's immature or insecure?
	Well, no, because women carry it too.
	So women have like high body counts too.
	Can't like discriminate against men.
	What do you think?
	Did I answer wrong?
	What's going on?
	No, I mean like do you think for a man to care about a woman's body count?
	Do you think that's wrong?
	Oh.
	Like do you think it's immature or like insecure?
	No, because I would care about a man's body count.
	Okay, what about you?
	I absolutely think body count matters.
	Yeah.
	And I think you should tell people whenever you get with them, you know?
	Okay.
	To be honest.
	I believe in soul ties, so I do think body count matters a lot.
	Depends on the person, how they carry themselves, what that body count actually means.
	I like that.
	But do you think men who care about body count, do you object to that?
	No, I mean, some men don't eat pussy, so just eat his own, you know.
	We're really getting him with that one, yeah.
	It's not really, you're not really getting it.
	It is like the topic of the night.
	It's hilarious.
	It's not really like you haven't got in me.
	It's the topic of the night.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I think it shouldn't matter.
	Yeah.
	I don't want to.
	Well, I don't want to date no hoe for tonight.
	You don't want to date a hoe?
	You're sleeping with two men right now.
	I was going to say that it was better.
	You got two dudes.
	You're sleeping with two dudes at the same time.
	Ain't that some bullshit?
	I'm just saying, not trying to be mean, but like subscribers that might potentially have girlfriends.
	Like, I even feel bad about that.
	So I can't imagine knowing that someone had a girlfriend.
	I would hate it.
	What about you?
	Body count is important because it shows how people move.
	Just in the same way, it's like if someone is obese, right?
	You might not be shaming a fat person, but you might not date them because they might be distracted more by food than their actual life and being in a relationship with you.
	So if a body count is high, it just means that people be distracted from their mission of life, whatever it is.
	Nick?
	Oh, hold on.
	Calutronic donated $100.
	Brian, if you were sentenced to life in prison and a female guard said she would sleep with you, even though she has 100 plus body count from all the other inmates, would you do it?
	Also, crazy underscore.gunduscore lady is a babe.
	Thank you.
	You're a babe.
	Is that your Instagram channel?
	Yeah, I love it.
	That's cute.
	Are you a crazy dog lady?
	Absolutely am, yeah.
	Okay, to answer the question, if I was sentenced to life in prison.
	Life in prison.
	So this is my only opportunity pussy.
	Beggars can't really be choosers.
	That's a fucking really, that's a shitty situation either way.
	Is she clean?
	It's still a fucking big L, but it's like, you can't, like, bro.
	Being in life in prison.
	But I can get pussy.
	Ah, fuck, bro.
	I mean, that's such a bad.
	It's like the two scenarios, like, the scenario is so bad.
	Does she have large labia?
	That's what I want.
	She got she's clean and she has large labia.
	Like, oh, but she fucked the other inmates.
	Oh, that's like uh oh we got.
	I'm gonna quote Tupac here.
	I'm gonna quote Tupac.
	We gotta go back to the old school penitentiary days and just jack off.
	Was that an actual quote?
	Yeah, that is literally a quote from Tupac.
	I swear, I'm not making that up.
	There you gotta go back to the OG penitentiary days and just start jacking off.
	I swear to God, that's a Tupac quote.
	Not from a song lyric.
	He was just talking to the camera.
	Okay.
	Does that mean like they're like we're chasing?
	Okay, here's the con here's the context.
	Here's the context of the Tupac quote.
	He's talking about how he says something along the lines of when bitches, his I would never say this, but I'm just quoting Tupac.
	When bitches get horny, N-words die.
	Bitches horny, N-words die.
	Watch.
	At every funeral, it's because there was a bitch that was horny the night before.
	That's why I think we got to go back to the OG penitentiary days and start jacking off.
	We got to say, fuck these bitches, man.
	Because I think I got it pretty good.
	Alpha memory.
	But she's a walking Petri dish.
	Only woman you'll ever get.
	Keep in mind that that can be bad for you when the other inmates find out you turned down a woman.
	Oh, true.
	Damn.
	This is a good one.
	Yeah.
	So she's like, oh, and she's fucking other dudes at the same time.
	Fuck, dude.
	You would.
	Nah, bro.
	Yeah, you would.
	No, no, no, no.
	Nah, if, like, even if I'm in prison and I ain't got any other chance at pussy, if she's like fucking other inmates at the same time, I mean, nah, it's no, I don't think I could do it, to be honest.
	Just, I just go back to OG penitentiary days and start jacking off.
	Jerking off all the time.
	What's your jerk off material in prison?
	Huh?
	What's your jerk off material in prison?
	Largely.
	I'm actually impressed that I think I got that pretty much pretty close to verbatim.
	And I've only seen that video like three fucking times.
	Here, let's just, can you find it, Nick?
	YouTube, Tupac Shakur, jerking off.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Tupac on women?
	Sure, fuck it.
	Why not?
	Yeah.
	It is past my bedtime.
	So sorry, Calutronik.
	No, I'm not.
	I don't think, fuck, I don't think I could do it, bruv.
	I don't think I can do it here.
	Let me read this.
	Seaberg, I wonder how many OF girls will end up like the NFL players who got big money for a short time, then lost that opportunity.
	You earning like you are now is not forever.
	This is a time you could be gaining skills.
	You might find yourselves behind at 30.
	Not me.
	Now that brain has spit some bars, can the rapper fire off some lyrics?
	Who's the rapper?
	Who's the rapper?
	I think you're the rapper.
	I'm the rapper.
	Yeah, you just spit bars.
	Ah, bro.
	I'm not a rapper.
	I'm not a rapper.
	Sorry.
	Do you have it, Nick?
	He's like wearing a vest.
	He's wearing a vest.
	You'll know it if you see him wearing a vest.
	Oh, man.
	Okay, I'll do chats.
	Cam H, I'm the physician who was simping for the dancer instamodel LOL.
	I appreciate you.
	Yeah, yeah, I recognize you.
	Who was the dancer instamodel?
	Was it last show?
	I don't know.
	But hey, Cam H, thank you so much for your support, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Stevo, girls are so delusional nowadays.
	They don't care about personality or anything.
	All they care about is money.
	Change my mind.
	It's hard to find someone who isn't a 3-0-Foe.
	Do you guys have a response to this?
	I care about personality.
	There's always exceptions to rules.
	I don't just care about money, no.
	Like, OnlyFans for me is just kind of like a stepping stool.
	It's not something I want to do for the rest of my life.
	I actually want to be a sex therapist.
	Do you want to be a sex therapist?
	How would you therapize?
	Is that a word?
	I don't know if I wanted to help kids with sexual trauma or if I actually want to be a sex therapist.
	Sorry.
	Or if I wanted to be a sex therapist for couples and stuff.
	Sex therapist?
	Yeah, sex therapist.
	What does a sex therapist do?
	They help people with their sexual troubles and needs.
	It's like, I think the girls that work in the Bordello, they were saying that couples come to them and they give them sex therapy by.
	Would you fuck your clients?
	Literally tell me why I met with my financial advisor now and I met with him and I walked in and I had my wisdom teeth.
	It just got pulled out.
	I was so swollen.
	He comes in.
	He's wearing these fucking cowboy boots.
	He's this tall country guy and I was like, oh my god.
	And I told my dad about it.
	My dad was like, McKenna, do not fuck your financial advisor.
	And I was like, oh my god, he's so hot though.
	He was totally, he loved me.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Get some help.
	I liked that one.
	Why is it taking so long?
	That's wrong.
	Here, let me read this.
	Grid one motorsports must truly suck knowing you're not being paid for sex or real companionship, but to leave, probably almost as bad as knowing that you and your time is not priceless with an expiration hit.
	Ladies?
	What does that mean?
	About to leave.
	Ladies?
	Oh, okay.
	Here's the last thing.
	What's everybody's body count?
	Well, I don't even fucking know.
	75 plus, right?
	Something like that.
	Like around 75 for sure.
	Probably count, okay?
	Like 14.
	Five girls, 14 guys.
	Okay.
	I won't say publicly.
	Less than 10?
	More than 10.
	Less.
	13.
	I'm proud of you.
	Thanks.
	For saying.
	Because you were hesitant.
	Yeah.
	Less than 15.
	I choose to share that information with who I'm intimate with.
	Okay.
	About five women.
	Aww.
	Why didn't she get the less than 10, more than 10 question?
	What?
	She.
	Well, whatever.
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	Oh.
	They know.
	Okay.
	I'm going to wrap up.
	Maddie's going to do like a five-minute after-show if any of you want to say hi to Maddie and kick it kind of show.
	Let's see.
	Hold on.
	I think I got caught up on chats, let me just double check.
	Ah, shit.
	Okay.
	Okay, I'll get it really quick.
	Jay Lion, going around the table, if you're on the first date with someone and they say they will never go down on you, will there be a second date?
	No.
	I thought you...
	Oh, no, you said you don't like it.
	I said sometimes I do.
	Sometimes I don't.
	I thought you were like, I don't really care.
	I mean, I'm a giver, too, but sometimes I like it, so I feel like that'd be a no.
	All right, that's fine.
	Uh no.
	Yes?
	No.
	It's a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
	someone that's the hill you die on during a date says that then like i said that trickles down into a lot of other things that's not just like super sexual yeah Yeah, that tells me a lot about a lot of things.
	Okay.
	Zillow Burger, don't hit me up.
	I'd go on a second date.
	Oh, I don't care.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, Brian.
	Calutronic is my tech company name in reference to the calutrons used to separate uranium-235.
	I forgot to change it for the soup chat.
	What about if she threatens to beat you until you say yes?
	Bro, that's like SA, dude.
	Yes, you're going to get paid.
	You have to say yes.
	Brahma, I'm going to get trans.
	I'm just going to put in a, what's it called?
	One of the notes?
	A slip?
	What are they called?
	A kite.
	Or no, it's not the kite.
	I don't know.
	Nah, I'll just transfer fucking to a different, I don't know, right?
	Different prison.
	I'll transfer somewhere.
	Different holdings, a different cell block.
	Okay, let's see here.
	Okay.
	How would I snitch?
	I'd just be like, yo, my life is in danger.
	Okay.
	So, all right.
	Thank you guys.
	Last call, hit the like button, please.
	On your way out, we'll do a five-minute after-after show with Madison.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	You can anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
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	Thank you to the wonderful panel here.
	Thank you guys for coming.
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	We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got a really good lineup.
	I'm pretty sure.
	You never know.
	Sometimes people bail.
	We were supposed to have, well, whatever.
	Got a really good lineup for next week.
	Be sure to tune in Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	07's in the chat.
	Madison is going to continue doing a brief after show for 5-10 minutes, and then we're going to proper wrap.
	We'll see you next time.
	Good night, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	See you guys.
	So for those of you who need to leave, you're welcome to leave.
	If you want, we'll do Madison.
	I'm going to put, if you want, I'll put you in Mix seat, and if you want, I'll put, or actually I'll put you in Mix seat.
	Okay.
	If you want to stay for the next five, ten minutes.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, I'm going to jump out because I'm so hungry.
	Bye, y'all.
	Bye.
	Take some half say.
	Go ahead, Madison.
	I know, I just have to wait to see who's sick, who's staying and who's leaving.
	It doesn't matter.
	No, yeah, you can stay if you want.
	Are you going to stay?
	Yes.
	What?
	What?
	Oh my god.
	Should we move everyone, like, this way, or?
	No, well, I mean, if McKenna wants to join the, she can, I guess.
	Yeah, I'm joining.
	Oh, okay, cool.
	Then I'll just keep it like this.
	What does this say?
	I've always wondered.
	is only fans just like is it like instagram like do you kind of just like so yeah it's like a there's a feed and you can post like your feed pics like instagram But then there's, like, your messages, so like your DMs.
	Like your DM.
	And that's where all your content goes to.
	So your content isn't posted on your OF feed.
	It's through messages.
	And you basically have to buy it.
	And that's where your messages go and like all the content and stuff like that.
	And you can also do stories.
	You can post on your story, like Instagram, and then you can also go live.
	Is it just like a big explore page, kind of?
	Like, how do you reel people?
	So yeah, there's like your homepage and those are people that you're subscribed to so you can see all their content and stuff like that or like some people will pop up with like kind of like not like sponsored but like suggested stuff.
	And there's like people, there's people on OF who like don't do just sexual content.
	They do like cooking shows and stuff like that.
	That's the stuff that's like suggested.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	They'll do like yoga and stuff like that.
	Oh cool.
	But yeah.
	I don't think we like went fully around the table for the question that I asked Siri earlier, but I guess I was just asking if you had a sugar daddy like what's the weirdest request you've gotten, but what's the weirdest request you've gotten from just a guy?
	Put it back on last in 15 minutes.
	What?
	You gotta just stare like on Santa Barbara.
	Hiding behind the microphone too long.
	Do you want me to go like that?
	Yeah, like that.
	But what's like the weirdest request you've gotten from a guy in general?
	I've never, I had a guy ask if I would eat his butt.
	For what?
	Just to eat his butt.
	Not for anything.
	Which was kind of weird.
	But I've never really done anything for money.
	So sexual.
	Has a guy ever asked you to eat his ass?
	Yes.
	Have you done it?
	Yes, they asked me to put a finger in his ass too.
	And I was like, oh, hell no, I'm not doing that.
	That's where I cut it off.
	Like, I'm a freaky girl, but I'm not doing that.
	You're not going to put anything in the middle of the face.
	I'm not doing that.
	I'm not eating someone's ass.
	And I also think it's weird that a guy likes ass play.
	I'm like, I feel like when guys like ass stuff, it makes them a little gay.
	It does.
	Like, if guys, this guy, so like my situationship, he literally, he used to love to do anal, and I finally called him out on him.
	I was like, why do you, I was like, that's kind of sus.
	And then now that we like hook up and stuff, he like, I asked him, I was like, why don't we do anal anymore?
	He was like, well, when you said that, I like started to think about it.
	He was like, you're kind of right.
	Like, it is sus.
	I was like, yeah, because it's like, not everyone has a vagina, but everyone has an asshole.
	So, you know, it could be like face down ass up.
	You could not even care who it is, you know?
	I agree.
	Have you ever eaten a guy's ass?
	We pass on that question of gaps.
	Yeah, no problem.
	Wait, so you have kids, right?
	I do.
	How many kids do you have?
	You have two.
	Do you find it, I don't know, we have a lot of women like around your age on and they say it's like a little harder for dating, but I always wondered why exactly it is harder to date at an older age, especially when you have kids.
	Like what do you find difficult about it?
	Well because everything changes.
	Your standards have to change.
	So now who I would choose in a man is completely different than who I would choose if I was single or I didn't have children.
	I kind of have a requirement of like the guy must have kids now because you know, I don't know with the screaming and the craziness, like I feel like they need to understand my lifestyle.
	I was just gonna ask, like, would you prefer to date a guy with kids?
	I probably would not date a guy without kids.
	Okay, yeah, because they already kind of know how it is to be with kids.
	I feel like because like they understand like what you like.
	Like are you saying like you would date a guy with kids?
	I would probably only date a guy because they would understand and they like know how to take care of kids as well.
	So like if you ever introduce them to your kids like it'd be like easier.
	Like they would know what to do and stuff.
	Exactly.
	How long does it take to introduce someone to your kids and how do you like kind of weigh it out to decide that's where the step you want to take with them?
	Yeah.
	So with my last relationship he already knew my kids because we were friends from like teenagers.
	So in that situation it was a little bit quick.
	But if it was just like a random guy it would probably be like six months to a year before they would know my kids.
	Got it.
	That makes sense.
	Whoa, it's so close.
	Scoot that one man that's gonna scoot that one a little bit.
	With the mind too.
	How do you guys like meet people?
	Because I hate the apps, but also I don't like going out that much.
	I don't like apps either.
	I meet people when I go out.
	I rarely go out.
	My friends kind of make me go out, but the only clubs I've been going to are like gay clubs.
	So it's like, I don't really meet like guys, but like I haven't even met girls, which I like want to meet more girls and stuff.
	I don't think you necessarily have to be on dating apps or go out into clubs or just the nightlife in general to meet someone.
	I have like hobbies and stuff.
	Like I dance and if you go to school, stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	You're definitely going to meet people and go like then once you meet like say like in dance like I have like these these my girlfriends and stuff like that like I'm probably gonna hang out with them and then they're probably gonna introduce me to their friends and like you know kind of like a cycle.
	Like I met my boyfriend pretty organically.
	I met him like on the beach.
	So like you can really meet anyone anywhere.
	You don't necessarily have to like go out to meet the person of your dreams.
	But you said you're religious, right?
	Like I always say that if you are religious, you're only gonna find the man you want if you're like going to church, going to groups like that, that have like the same exact morals as you.
	Can that align with you?
	New churches.
	It's weird.
	I don't like the preachiness of it and that you have to follow this and do this and follow by this.
	I believe more in having a relationship than following a straight religion.
	I am currently reading the Christian Bible and I believe in God and Jesus Christ so that's why I just classify myself as Christian, but I don't necessarily believe in organized religion.
	Interesting.
	It's weird.
	But you said like you would want a guy that follows their religion and their teachings, right?
	Yeah, believe you do something in life.
	I follow a lot of Christian beliefs.
	But like a lot of people, I wear the cross not because Jesus died for our sins, but because to remind myself to have forgiveness because Jesus died for the sins of those who killed him too.
	So it's kind of like a constant reminder to have forgiveness.
	So like that's kind of why I don't really like organized religion is because I feel like the Bible, you watch the same movie with somebody and you both can take away different parts from it.
	And I think the Bible is very similar.
	feel like it's more of a telephone to communicate with God, and it opens that doorway, but I don't think it's 100% long.
	I don't know why it's planned.
	That's weird to hear myself now.
	I was like, in my heart, I was like.
	Stop looking at my phone.
	I don't know why it's playing.
	Who's that girl on your phone?
	I don't know.
	Just kidding.
	I just wanted to out you like that.
	All right, let's wrap up.
	Was it a riveting conversation chat?
	Was that a riveting chat?
	Did you like the five-minute after show?
	Nope.
	See on the web, Brian.
	They didn't like us talking about butt stuff.
	What the frick?
	Wait, that's what you're saying.
	Yeah, we went from anal to like Christianity.
	Yeah.
	L for the pot.
	Needed triggered Brian.
	The fuck are we talking about?
	What the fuck are we talking about?
	What the fuck does distro kid have to do with this fucking conversation?
	Was this the last part?
	No, this was like a couple episodes ago.
	Distro Kid?
	Wait.
	I actually think I saw a clip of that on like TikTok or something.
	Wait, there's a clip of me losing my fuck are we talking about?
	What the fuck are we talking about?
	How does this have to do with anything that we're talking about?
	No, I recall there was a girl sitting there.
	Fuck, I'm trying to remember.
	No, it was the one where Josie.
	Yeah, she brought it to me.
	Oh, Josie, I don't know if she did.
	She started talking about something, and you were like, what the fuck are we doing towards you?
	Yo, LPE.
	Oh, here it is.
	Curtis Underscorle donated $69.
	Crazy dog lady.
	I understand exactly where you are coming from.
	I have a son too, and I wouldn't ever see the lady when I'm with my son.
	I used to be freaked out if I met a chick with a kid, but now I would prefer someone who does have one.
	Maddie rules.
	Match.
	Matchmaker.
	I know Matchmaker.
	No, maybe that's something in your room.
	Can somebody send me the clip of the moment?
	Can somebody find me the timestamp where I lost my fucking mind?
	Sure, do a mind reaction.
	Yeah, we could do it.
	Let's do it.
	Wait, please, somebody find me the fucking timestamp.
	It was the episode, what, two episodes ago, right?
	Josie and I forgot.
	Josie.
	Josie's like a longtime supporter.
	She's always in the chat, but like.
	I was tilted to answer LPE, though.
	I was fucking tilted at the beginning of the show for like 10 minutes, and then I loosened up.
	I lined up a bit.
	It's so unfortunate because the previous show I was like super chill.
	Like, last year I was super chill, and then, yeah.
	I've never seen you chill in the beginning of your podcast.
	Never seen me chill?
	No.
	I'm always like, this guy needs to meditate before his shows or something.
	I fucking do that.
	literally fucking do the show's like are you have you found it nick Oh, you want me to look for it?
	Yeah, kind of like the words that literally came out of my mouth.
	I thought you were telling me that's right.
	I feel like I could find it.
	It's so funny.
	People are always like, be vulnerable.
	Be vulnerable.
	But like when I'm an emotional mess, people are, it's not at three minutes into the episode.
	No, I don't know.
	It's not.
	Are you talking three hours 39?
	I think it's three hours thirty-nine.
	Um...
	Do I wanna...
	I don't know if I want to fucking pull it up.
	That episode was a fucking mess.
	Do you have a favorite episode?
	Gorlock.
	That's a good one.
	Some of the early episodes were pretty cool, too.
	Brian, how would you suggest that I searched for this?
	Do you have the correct episode pulled up first?
	I remember the day.
	Yeah, 3 hour 39 minutes.
	Skip to there.
	What got you to want to change?
	Because you were doing social experiments on the beach originally, right?
	Or no?
	Oh, I mean, yeah, I used to do like pranks and social experiments and stuff, and I took a long hiatus.
	And then I was debating what I want to do.
	I kind of started doing pranks again, but it wasn't, I didn't know if I wanted to do that from a creative perspective.
	It's a lot of work, YouTube demonetized all the prank videos, so I was like, well, do I want to spend like 70 hours to make, like I was, like the few videos I did when I came back, I would work like 100 hours plus making a video, and that'd make like 100 bucks.
	I was like, this is not worth it.
	Like, so I was kind of like, well, can I, I'd like to transition to doing something else.
	So, uh, are you searching for it, Madison?
	Yeah, I think I, like, am close to finding it.
	Three hours, 39 minutes.
	Let's pull it up.
	Real suppression, real misogyny is not giving someone a seat to even talk.
	And literally, I'm so sick of like, if of media being like that, and it's just like, I've been in media for years, and it's so hard, you know, having a bin a sexual.
	I don't want to say, we'll move on.
	But anyways, yeah, I'm a musician.
	You know, you know how it is.
	It's like they look down upon that and then laying.
	I don't do that anymore.
	The search.
	He stole my audio fingerprint.
	So distro kid stole my audio fingerprint.
	Yeah.
	Like, my stuff is still there.
	They're stealing their royalties that they owe me still.
	By the way, don't use distro kid.
	What the fuck are we talking about?
	What are you talking about?
	What the fuck does distro kid have to do with this fucking conversation?
	I'm like, I'm a hot obstacle.
	I get suppressed too.
	Does it have anything to do with you being a little bit more of a drink?
	Look at Medicine.
	And I'm not suppressed here.
	I have a mic here.
	I have a seat here.
	I am not suppressed here.
	But I get suppressed.
	Not like you're not suppressed.
	That's literally.
	What the fuck does distro kid have to do with this?
	Somebody clipped that.
	I think so.
	You saw that on the title?
	I swear, Frankie and I were scrolling through TikTok and he was just like.
	He was like, do you remember this clip of Brian absolutely fucking losing it?
	And I just like, yeah, I think someone might have put that.
	Based.
	But seriously, Josie Ann, what the fuck were you talking about, dude?
	Josie Ann, you just like go into these non-sequitur, like totally unrelated things.
	You'll just like, we'll be talking about something and you'll just like go into some totally random fucking tangent.
	We were talking about some suppression and she brought up distro.
	Well, that girl over there also goes on tangents and then Josie Ann like doubles down on the tangent and is like I don't think that girl is super like I don't know.
	I feel like what she says is like she's a little in head in the clouds.
	I love her, Lauren.
	She's great.
	Yeah, she's great a little bit ahead in the clouds, but she's a very nice.
	She's a very nice, very.
	No, she's a very nice girl, very nice.
	She's one of the sweetest people we've had on the show.
	Okay, we're gonna wrap up.
	Um, we're gonna fucking wrap up.
	Does anybody have anything last to say before we wrap up here?
	You got nothing, you got nothing.
	How are you gonna come on my podcast and say fucking nothing?
	You think i'm funny?
	Yeah, I do.
	You think i'm funny?
	Yeah, what am I?
	A clown to you?
	Oh, i'm serious.
	Okay, all right, it's my joke.
	All right here, let me read these and then we'll wrap.
	Uh, triggered Brian 339.
	Oh, these are gonna take fucking forever to get there.
	Um, it won't take too long Brian, did you read this one from grid one, the Snow White, Snow White.
	What sort of work do you do in finance?
	Uh, I do sales.
	that was a one more dancer okay we got lpe coming in loose pussy energy donated 69 dollars alpha brian triggered brian was too lit should have put that energy on that destiny librarian troll she came with an agenda to disrupt and distract never invite her again Yeah, that was it.
	If I had a male backup, it would have been okay.
	But Dave Rubin, one, he had to dip.
	He left early, which we didn't know that was going to be the case.
	And I had literally no backup.
	So, yeah, like, because the thing with the show, I'm like, pretty much 1v7.
	Like, it's a 1v7 most of the time.
	So, yeah.
	By the way, LPE, is this name inspired by my statements about loose pussy energy?
	Is that is that from me?
	Thank you, sir.
	I mean, it's a term that's been around, you know, but And is lit a good thing?
	Is too lit?
	Is that a good thing?
	I think it means you're too lit.
	Super high or something.
	Or super nice.
	No, I don't think it means you're high.
	Like, lit is, like, good, right?
	Yeah.
	That's lit.
	It's good.
	It's too lit.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's too lit.
	I'm dumb.
	I don't know how.
	Brian's favorite one is when Layla was on.
	Nah, no, no, no, no.
	Oh, that was annoying.
	I made my boss watch that, because, like...
	Yeah.
	For sexual harassment training?
	she was we were like so confused to how that was okay Because if it was like flipped, everybody would be pissed.
	And it got like, it was funny for a few seconds, and then it just got really fucking annoying.
	I mean, Maddie can attest to this.
	What?
	It's not just, like, it wasn't just on the show, too.
	Like, before the show even starts, she's on my dick.
	Is she like trying to catch you up?
	She like walks in the door and she's like, hi, baby.
	Like, how are you doing?
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	That's exactly what she is.
	And I was like, I keep brushing it off, but like at a point, it's kind of like, okay, relax, you know?
	Like, I can be playful with it for a bit, but after a while, it's just like, you know, it's so cool.
	I mean, she's obviously fucking joke.
	Like, I'm not naive.
	It's like she's trolling.
	She just wants like a viral clip or whatever.
	Go ahead and do that.
	I had a dream that you and Layla like actually got together.
	It was in my dreams.
	You're dreaming about me and Layla fucking?
	What the?
	Well, you said got together.
	Like, you started dating.
	Check that out.
	Madison's, like, fantasizing about me.
	I feel like I was obsessed with you.
	What the fuck?
	Was that, what, what was the, what was the dream?
	It was at, like, it was at, like, a party, like, at a house that I remember from my high school.
	So random.
	And then we were all like working for some reason.
	That's why you were there.
	Yeah.
	And then Layla was like on the show.
	And then you, like, you were like, I have to tell you something.
	Like, I think I'm like getting, I think I'm going to like take her out and stuff.
	Oh, I came to you.
	Yeah.
	And then you guys just started dating.
	And I was like, okay, like, who am I to tell you what you shouldn't do?
	Love?
	Okay.
	Yeah, it was crazy, though.
	Have any of you guys ever dreamed about me?
	No.
	You haven't?
	You're making it sound like I'm dreaming about you.
	I did dream about podcasting.
	I was like, wow.
	Rude.
	Rude.
	All right.
	Why are you still, Nick?
	What are you doing?
	We're going to sit for six minutes.
	Okay, last one.
	Brian, bring on Matt Walsh, Brett Cooper, Casey Xander.
	I think we're going to – I'm in touch with the team at Daily Wire.
	We're going to see about Brett Cooper.
	I think we'll eventually get her on.
	I will say this.
	I don't want to reveal.
	End of the month, November, not this month.
	We do have a Daily Wire talent coming at the end of November.
	That's right.
	Can somebody do a dab really quick?
	Do a dab.
	Go.
	Woohoo.
	Look at that.
	Bam.
	Daily Wire dab.
	DWD.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to wrap up.
	Same shit as usual.
	Guys, we'll see you on Sunday.
	Got some salt, dude.
	Sunday show, I booked some pretty.
	It's, I think it's gonna be really good.
	So be sure to tune in.
	Be sure to tune in, lads.
	All right, guys.
	We're gonna wrap up there.
	07's in the chat.
	07's in the chat.
	Be sure to follow Maddie's OnlyFans account.
	Just kidding.
	Yo, Clay, thank you for the 100.
	Wait, before you.
	Oh, wait, too late.
	Oh, no, no.
	Okay, you didn't stop streaming yet?
	Let me just double-check.
	Okay, we're good.
	All right, 07's in chat.
	See you guys.

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