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Nov. 1, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Muscle Mommy CONFRONTS Brian?! ft. HOE MATH | Dating Talk #113

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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hello, my name is Sammy Jo.
I'm an IFBB Bikini Pro, an online coach, posing coach, and a content creator as well.
Welcome.
Hey, I'm Mars Noir.
I'm 25 and I do OnlyFans.
I'm Kayden.
I'm 24.
And I'm a bartender and OnlyFans creator.
I'm Laura.
I'm 35.
And I'm also an IFBB bikini pro.
And I'm a full-time fitness and online bodybuilding coach.
No OF, right?
No, okay, got it.
Hi, my name is Anya.
I'm 18 and I'm a Twitch streamer.
Hi, my name is Angela.
I work in the automotive industry.
I'm 31 years old.
Hello, my name is Annette.
I'm 29 years old, and I work as a nanny because I'm a kindergarten teacher.
Where are you from?
Hungary.
Hungary.
And so you're just in San Laura, or excuse me, you're just in California for a couple weeks.
Yes.
Are you nanny for like a wealthy family?
Yeah, we can say that.
Okay.
Are they also Hungarian or are they American?
It's a French-American couple.
French-American couple.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Jake, Rattlesnake TV, 28 years old.
Are we doing relationship status?
Not yet.
Okay, we'll save that.
And you were recently where?
I was in Thailand.
Just came here two days ago.
So extremely jet-lagged.
So if I'm a little bit brain foggy.
I gotta fix the mic here.
Sorry, the thing.
The little thing was popped off slightly.
Yeah, so if I'm a little bit brain foggy, I do apologize, but we'll get through it.
What were you doing in Thailand?
Just training a bit of Muay Thai.
I was in Kai Samui for a little while, riding motorbikes, eating cheap food.
Nice.
And various other things.
Any ladyboys?
I told you before the show.
Okay.
Sure, sure.
There are ladyboys, but not for us.
Unfortunately.
Okay, got it.
And then our first ever video-in guest, why don't you introduce yourself?
Name, age, occupation.
Hello.
I am known as Homath.
I'll keep my name quiet for the moment.
And my face.
Age, I am on my way out of the dating market.
I'll leave it at that.
And occupation, I complain about things on the internet for money, full-time, starting very recently.
Nice.
Okay, very good.
By the way, since this is our first time doing a video in, can the chat give us a little quick feedback?
How was the audio from Homath?
Was it okay?
Was it a bit too loud?
Was it peaking at all, or is the audio okay?
One in the chat if the audio is okay.
Two in the chat, maybe if it was peaking a little bit or if it was maybe too loud.
But I think we have it pretty good.
So sweet.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
So what is your current relationship status?
So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycool sex, cult harem?
If there's anything else that I missed, if you're single, how long have you been single?
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
Go ahead.
I'm married and my longest relationship is my current one of six years.
Six years.
Okay.
And you're, sorry, I missed the age for you.
I'm 27.
I forgot to change it.
27.
Okay.
Got it.
I'm single.
I've been single-ish for like three years because I date a lot.
And my longest relationship was three and a half years.
You've been single-ish for three years because you date a lot.
Well, like-ish, yeah, because like I go out.
I like meet people, but I haven't been locked down in a while for sure.
In three years.
In three years, which is crazy to think about.
I broke up with my big ex-boyfriend right before I went to backpack for a month and a half.
He was obese.
What?
Huh?
Did I say that?
No, you said big ex-boyfriend.
Oh, okay.
Everyone questions me on that, and I never change my lingo.
It's just like the big ex, like your longest relationship.
Oh, okay, sorry.
That's where my mind goes.
my obese ex-boyfriend did you break up with him to go backpacking or you broke up because it was time and that was a good moment to do it you know like Like, all right, that's done, and now I'm off, you know?
Yeah, fair enough, okay.
I'm technically single, but I'm in a bit of a situationship with my ex.
Technically single.
We are not boyfriend and girlfriend.
But you're in a...
It's a situation.
Okay.
I got to understand what that word means.
Really quick, coming back to you.
You've been single for three years.
In that three-year period, what's the longest period of time that you've been with a guy?
Maybe a situationship or a short-term friends with Ben, whatever it may be.
What's the longest period of time that you've been seeing a guy in the past three years?
Okay, embarrassing.
Probably like a month.
Just one month?
Yeah, I had a joke of my friends that I'm like a two-weaker.
A two-weaker.
Yeah.
I like to kind of get to know people and then like shift around.
I don't see myself really interested in having like a long-term partner right now.
Okay.
And so I like just meeting people and going out and the whole thing.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Are you the one who normally breaks it off and moves about?
Yeah.
Never been broken up with before.
Is that a flex?
It's a flex.
I was like a little late, a little flex.
You've never been broken up with before?
Never, no.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
What about, did you finish on your relationships on this?
You said you've been single longest relationship?
The situationship that we're currently in.
Like, yeah, so you're technically single.
We've been together for like four years?
Wow.
Five almost?
But you're technically single, but you've been together for four years, but it's a situationship.
Is it on again off again?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
I would call it that for sure.
So how long have you been technically single?
A few months.
Like since like.
When's the last time you saw the guy?
Like two days ago.
But you've been technically.
You saw him two days ago, but you've technically single for a few months.
Yeah.
What makes you technically single?
He doesn't want to be my boyfriend.
I don't want to be his girlfriend.
Are you guys seeing it?
It's like no, it's that, yeah.
So it's like exclusive.
What's the point at the end of it?
If it's not, you don't want to stay together at all.
Well, I think it's the title.
He like doesn't want the title.
So it's like a relationship without anything.
What's the point of there being any title at all?
That's what I don't get at that situation.
Yeah, well, I don't really think that.
And then they used to call it a lot of people.
I feel like situationship is a lot of people.
But you're also inclusive.
Exclusively seeing other people.
Right, like we are.
But if you could, if you wanted to, you could.
Yeah.
I feel like he is encouraged by the data.
As soon as something better comes along for you or for him, it's done.
I hate to think, yes, but like maybe.
I don't know.
The lazy guys are on a street.
Are you afraid?
Exactly.
Are you afraid of being heartbroken?
Or was there a reason, if I can ask?
No, I'm like, I don't know.
I'm a tough girl.
So I don't.
I don't.
Tough girl.
Like, I don't know that I've ever been heartbroken.
Like, sad for sure.
Like, this is like my, like, I bounce back like that.
Like, no, but like, very sad at the thought of losing him.
Like, this is like my best friend.
So it's like hard to say goodbye for sure.
So we'll like break up and then just still keep hanging out.
Like perhaps, yeah.
So you don't want to be with him?
He's like your best friend and you'd bounce back.
Okay, like I would, if he wanted to be my boyfriend, I would be his girlfriend.
Oh.
But he doesn't want it.
Girlfriend.
Well, that sounds like a situation.
Exactly.
Exactly.
There's just a lot of complexity.
So much.
Yeah.
We're all going to have questions.
I hear.
Are you dating other people?
No, I'm not.
So, but you've been in this situationship for four years?
We, like, no, we were full-on together for, like, I think this is our second breakup.
This is our second breakup.
Like, who broke up with who?
It was mutual.
Okay, so we got together when I was in college.
He moved out to LA during COVID, and we were like, okay, like, we'll end it here.
And then I just kept flying out to see him, and he would come see me in the city.
So it just never ended.
Would he fly out to see you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He would.
So I'd see him like every other month.
And then we eventually kind of got back together.
Like, there literally would be a point where I'd be like, so am I your girlfriend yet?
Are you my boyfriend?
He'd be like, no.
And then one day he was just like, yeah.
And then you're going to be a little bit more cakey.
Nothing I don't know.
Doing some extracurricular behavior on the side.
Yeah, that's what sounds as cakey as it is.
Ignorance is bliss in my eyes.
So I'd rather not know, honestly.
During the time that you've dated him, have you seen any other guys?
During our first breakup, yeah, I did.
And he like told me he was seeing people out here too.
I was back in Chicago.
So I'm still living in my college town, actually, but yeah, yeah.
So he was seeing other people.
I was kind of like not really seeing other people.
Do you think it would hurt you if he found out he was seeing other people now?
Depends on in what context.
Like sleeping with other people, no, doesn't really bother me.
But if he were like full on dating another girl, yeah, I'd be sad.
Just a question.
For you two, you both do OnlyFans.
What kind of content do you do on there?
BG, boy girl content, girl girl?
What do you?
I'm so low BG.
I have boy girl content, though.
I don't really make it.
I'd say like less than a handful of videos over my career.
Okay.
But yeah, mostly just like cute pictures.
Well, can I say like naked?
Can I say that word?
Nude.
Yeah, I guess I take naked pictures.
And I put them online.
Alom!
But so you've done boy girl content.
You've shot content with guys, just one guy or multiple guys?
Multiple guys.
Most of my content is with one guy.
There's this couple in Vegas that I really like working with.
Johnny Sins.
Is he Vegas?
Johnny Sins?
He has to shoot with me, but we never shot.
No, you know, Jack and Jill.
No idea.
Very niche.
There's a lot of people in the industry, yes.
What about you?
I do BG solo content, only with my ex.
Oh, so you're my content partner.
Yeah.
Content partner.
OnlyFans partner.
Have you shot any content with other guys or just him?
Never.
No, literally just.
You do have content.
You do do content with men.
Yeah, yeah.
With one man.
Okay.
With him, yeah.
Gotcha.
Do you do OF2 or I still have it?
Yeah.
But are you trying to phase it out?
No, I still have it.
My business is up and running and trying all the time.
And then you too, are you doing boy girl content?
I just enjoyed our content, yes.
With your husband, I assume.
Have you done content with other men?
No.
Other women, but not men.
Other women, I've had a lot of money.
Solo women and then no other men.
Okay, got it.
And that's how you do, and I think sorry.
Go ahead, go ahead.
With other women?
If we're together, yes.
Like a threesome.
That in that sense, yes.
Cute.
Okay.
Well, we'll try to get through everybody's relationship status before we dig too deep.
Go ahead.
Sure.
So I've been single for about three months, and my longest relationship was three and a half years.
Three months?
Three and a half years.
Why did he dump you?
Sorry.
So sorry.
That's assumptions though.
Okay, okay, okay.
The most recent relationship, he actually, he did initiate the breakup, but ultimately it just wasn't working.
The lifestyle of a bikini pro bodybuilder, it's a lot.
And he wasn't really supportive of it.
So even though he liked how I looked and loved the fact that he was dating a tall, you know, bikini competitor, he wasn't really.
How tall are you, by the way?
I'm six feet tall.
Six feet?
Yeah.
So he's a little bit more like a lot of people.
Are you like 5'11 and a half and you're just like claiming?
You know, like how guys do that shit?
I'm kind of sort of rounding up.
We're 5'11 and 3 quarters.
Okay, I guess you can.
Yeah.
So only men round up.
I'm not on dating apps, but when I was, I realized guys round up.
So I needed to round up.
Because if I said I was 5'11 and I showed up on a date with a guy who's 5'11, he was actually kind of 5'9 a lot of the time.
I like to say I'm 6'3 in heels.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm also 6'3 in heels.
Yeah.
Wow.
Good times.
Was he a buddybuilder as well?
No, no.
So he didn't have a fitness lifestyle at all.
So it was really hard.
And he was more of an entrepreneur.
And I think he was going through some stuff mentally because he was very successful.
But he would spend a lot of his time during the day.
And he was, you know, he was a single dad.
So he was the first guy I dated with kids.
He'd spend a lot of time just in his apartment, like drinking beer, smoking weed, like just under the bus he goes.
I don't know.
No, I mean, he was a good guy, and I mean, we were really building a life together, so it's sad that he's not a bad person.
Every time I've seen, like, a competitive bodybuilding guild, I've always been dating an absolute gorilla.
Yeah, so I think that's what I realized is I don't need to date a gorilla necessarily, but I need someone who at least values and has a more similar lifestyle to me.
Yeah.
It's important.
Did you say you felt like he wasn't there for you towards the end of the relationship or he wasn't supportive of yourself?
Like, do you expect him to kind of do like rice and like cook you rice and chicken type of stuff?
No, I didn't expect.
I actually got meal prepped for him.
Oh, you meal prepped for OM.
Okay.
So I just, you know, when we're, I mean, Sammy's a bikini pro too, and that's, we know each other.
Can we see a double buy?
Oh, wait.
I think the, hold on, let me let me put it center.
Flock, Myron.
Nice.
Solid.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not dieting or anything right now.
Okay.
No, so it's dirty bulk.
No, not dirty.
Lean bulk.
Lean bulk.
Females, we can't dirty bulk.
Can't dirty bulk.
That's a disaster.
Real bodybuilders don't dirty bulk.
I'm on the dirty bulk right now.
That's a perma bulk.
Perma bulk.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So, no, it just, it got really tough because, you know, I kind of sat him down when I did start dieting this spring for shows.
And I said, look, you don't need to be a bodybuilder.
I don't want to change you.
But I'm going to be really busy.
And so just sometimes come to the gym with me.
Sometimes hang out with me when I'm meal prepping.
And he just, we never were really able to spend time together once I got busier.
And it just got harder and harder.
And I got more and more tired, you know, more and more hungry.
And it's hard to keep a relationship going if you're not seeing each other and you don't have that quality time.
Got it.
Got it.
What about you?
Longest relationship, I think, was a year.
And I've been single for about six months.
Okay.
One year.
All right.
What about you?
I'm in a very new relationship.
But my longest relationship is probably about four years.
And I also am divorced.
You're divorced.
Got it.
Okay.
How long were you married for?
Was it the four year?
No.
Was it the four?
No.
Probably about eight months.
Yeah.
Okay.
And you said you're newly in a relationship.
How long has that been?
Like a month.
One month?
Okay.
All right.
So for the divorce, what happened there?
I unfortunately was going through a lot of medical problems and it kind of put me in a really bad place.
I was on a trial drug and it unfortunately caused some really bad side effects and they became too much for him and he couldn't be there for me and support me because it was just a lot on him mentally as well.
So we parted ways.
What was the trial drug, if you don't mind me asking?
It's called Oralissa.
It's for endometriosis.
And basically they're using it right now to castrate and help do gender reassignment.
Okay.
So it causes a lot of side effects.
And unfortunately, that's not something that they talk about.
And it's also the liquid version of it is used to treat cancer patients of, I believe it's like prostate cancer in men.
So yeah, a lot of different uses for that drug.
It was passed.
I was in the stage three part of the trial, which is like the stage right before it gets approved by the FDA.
Okay.
Are you better now?
I am.
It took a lot of hard work.
I mean, I'm still taking actions every day to get better.
But I would say in the last like two years I've really made a huge amount of progress.
So God to say I have my life back.
All right.
It's a nasty one.
Oh yeah.
And I unfortunately have like the most advanced form.
So.
What about you?
Who who?
I should think of it.
Yeah.
I don't really want to say so much about my past because I'm not that proud of that.
But I was closed to get married.
And yeah, just about one month before the wedding, I said, no, it's not going to work.
And I'm just thankful for this decision.
And I guess it saved my life.
Wait, hold on.
There's a lot there.
So what's your current relationship status, just to start?
I'm dating someone.
How long have you been dating?
A week.
One week?
but you're traveling right now right so how did you is this a long distance relationship or it's gonna be a long distance relationship for a while Have you met this person in person?
Of course, I did.
Where?
Paris he's the he's your he's a relative of the family I thought he was going to say a relative of yours.
Wait, so he's your employer?
No, no, He's a relative.
The mom's cousin.
The mom's cousin.
Oh, okay.
So you met him once?
No, more times.
Oh, okay.
Does he know that you're dating as well?
Does he know that you're in a relationship with him?
What?
What?
No, I hope not.
She's not going to know it.
No, Because sometimes you ace in European girls, you know, no, I date only him.
I don't know where I said something stupid.
No, no, no, no.
Does he know that you're in a relationship?
With him.
With him.
Oh, yeah, yeah, he knows.
It's me.
Okay.
So, relationship one week.
You said longest relationship was what?
Like three years.
Three years?
Okay.
And you said you don't want to talk a lot about your past because you said you made mistakes.
What do we talk?
That's the most interesting thing to talk about.
I just think that being a boyfriend, girlfriend, it's just, I don't know.
I think there's more in a relationship, not just this.
There's higher rank in a relationship.
And the value of a person can be measured by how we call them, like friend, stranger, bus driver, homie, whatever.
Homie?
Just saying.
So yeah, I think like this.
Okay, okay.
And in your pre-show notes to us, you said you were a conservative Christian.
Is that correct?
Have you always been conservative Christian?
No.
Sadly not.
No.
I was.
My family is Christian, but there was a period of time when I wasn't with the Lord.
So this is why I'm not proud of that.
And I just want to restore my relationship with God.
Sure.
And this is what this guy supports me.
And also he shares the same views.
And I just feel blessed by him.
Are you waiting until marriage?
Yes.
For sex?
Yes.
I'm going to...
Wait, so are you...
It wasn't always like this.
Oh, okay.
So you're not a virgin?
Yes, I'm not sadly.
Do you consider yourself a born-again virgin?
Yes, yes.
Is that a thing?
Can you be a...
I think Jesus died for your purity, not for that piece of cell that you have there.
So I think if you can be clear in your heart and soul, it can work out.
Okay.
It's good to adopt those values anyway, regardless, you know?
You're from Hungary, which is a based country.
Victor Orban is a fantastic president.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Great conservative country, so it makes sense.
Based.
You said that you were engaged, but that you canceled 28 days before the wedding.
What happened there?
It was just not right.
I don't know if you've ever had this feeling that it's not good.
It's not good.
I should get out of it.
But you still had this feeling to do it, do it, do it.
But then I was like, no, no.
It got to end.
And yeah, I don't want to say bad things about him or anything.
It was just not right.
It was not from God.
It could be the biggest mistake of my life.
And I'm just so, so, so, so lucky to be out of time.
Was it Andrew Tate?
No.
That's not from God for sure.
Tate, if you see it, sorry, no.
But I like you.
Oh.
No, no, no, no, not like that.
Not like that.
Not like as a man, but yeah, there are very good viewpoints he's sharing.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Same as last time, unfortunately.
I mean, single and ready to mingle.
So not really too much different at all.
Longest relationship?
A year and a half?
Year and a half?
Okay.
Back in the days and glories.
And we have Homath.
Tell us your relationship status.
I am single and not prepared to mingle whatsoever.
I'm avoiding people as much as possible right now.
I think they call that fall cell, voluntary celibate.
You're a false.
You're voluntarily celibate.
Okay.
Kind of.
I mean, I'm just not putting in any effort.
I deleted all the apps.
I moved out of the city and into the woods.
And I'm just like going on walks by myself, not with anyone else.
Based.
And I don't know if I'm ever going to move again and try again and go out and talk to people.
I'm taking a breath.
And right now I am only interacting with women through Homath.
And so I'm kind of just checking out people all over the country, seeing how that goes.
And so you're talking like consultation type stuff, or are women sliding into your DMs?
This women slide into the DMs.
Yeah, they say they like my voice and like women will say that they're attracted to me and they haven't seen my face and I think that's crazy, but I'll take it.
And then I just go see what's up with that.
And then, you know, someone's going to fly up here eventually, probably.
And they like your art style too.
Is that, you know?
People always, no one ever says that they don't like it.
It's a very quick and easy art style, but people say, oh, you're a great artist.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Now, so we went around the table.
We asked everybody their relationship status.
Was there anything that anybody said that kind of that we can reference any of your either existing art pieces or is this a fresh drawing that you just made, by the way?
This?
I'm just taking notes.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Yeah, so I can respond.
Nick, can you see?
Oh, sorry.
Nick, can you show us the bigger Discord window if you unhide?
Let's see that.
Click it.
Okay, so this, I think that looks, if we need to see it, I think that works.
Okay, cool.
Nick, you can bring it.
You can hide that one.
Oh, okay, yeah.
I'm full screen.
But yeah, did you have any thoughts on any of the situations that we got?
We got the technically single for four years, but the, you know, did you have any things that came to mind?
Sure, sure.
I've got a few questions all around.
Technically single, I mean, that was the one where you said that you would date him if he wanted to, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's, I mean, we have kind of like a designation for that.
I mean, I have, like, I have, I don't know if you guys are familiar with my work.
I make these silly little drawings.
Nick, do you want to say?
I think that you're just sort of landing in this area right here.
Like, you would be the keeper if you could be, but he doesn't want you to be.
Would you say that that's right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would.
So why do you do that to yourself?
You know, the chances of him changing his mind are really, really low.
Well, I mean, I'm like, I'm very independent.
So, like, I live on my own.
I'm happy to be on my own.
So, the fact that I enjoy my time with him and he is like my best friend, I feel like I'm just enjoying the time that I do have with him in whatever context, whatever capacity.
So, I like I would like to be a mother someday, not necessarily a wife.
Like, that's not even, I don't ever need to get married.
I just want kids and a house to take care of.
I want to be a little professor at the house, but it's the future.
It's what we're doing now.
I understand that.
And he's like, he might be that.
You had kind of a reaction to what she said.
What specifically did she say that you well, it's a gigantic red flag when somebody says that they want to be a mother but not a wife, because it means that you're looking for a guy to give you his seed.
And then if you don't want to be his wife, then he's on the hook for child support.
And he's basically not going to be able to see his kid.
You're going to take his money.
That's what comes in our head when we do that.
I should have.
It's not that I don't want to be a wife.
It's like my whole life I pictured being a mother, a caretaker, like a housewife, but I just marriage in itself, like sharing taxes and all that.
I don't need to do all that.
Like a long-term partner that lives with me.
I want a partner.
You want a man to give you a child, but you don't want to be a wife.
I would be a wife.
I'd be a really good wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like, it's just not necessary.
Exactly.
So as in the middle of the level, children are necessary.
Correct.
That's exactly.
Exactly.
I agree with that.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Jay, did you have a response to that?
Yeah, I mean, how does that fit into your overall life plan?
One thing I do is I do kind of life coaching, and I just check on where people are going overall.
And I think that's something a lot of people are doing is thinking just like about right now what they're doing and what feels good.
And this is something that women have done with me over and over again is they kind of throw themselves into my life and they go, I'm enjoying it right now.
And I go, well, it's never going to go beyond that.
And they sort of wait to see if it does or if someone else wants to do something with them.
And especially if the other guys see that she's hanging out with me, they're less inclined to do that.
And it's kind of like, I feel like you're sabotaging yourself.
Perhaps.
I don't know.
My parents got married, had kids really young, so they always encouraged me to just wait and enjoy my youth and travel and, you know, enjoy life on my own.
So I'm like more than happy to do that right now.
I don't necessarily have a life plan.
Like, I...
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That was poetic, dude.
Thank you.
That was beautiful.
Can you send one as a haiku, please?
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Go ahead.
I think you were finishing a thought.
Oh, gosh.
I think I was finished.
I have a question for you.
Yeah.
Do you feel like, is there any part of you that feels like you don't deserve what you want?
Like you don't deserve to be a wife and a mother and have all those things to tap into childhood trauma, yeah, for sure.
Like, yeah, I definitely, yeah, feel like, yeah, I just, yeah, yeah.
Do you think the OF is do you think the OF might be putting like a strain on your relationship?
No, no.
Like, that is, like, sex is like the start of our, like, a base of our, a pillar of our relationships.
So that's.
That's not healthy.
Well, wait, you're not.
Your OnlyFans is the pillar.
No, not my OnlyFans.
The sex I have with this man.
Like, that's the pillar?
A pillar.
A pillar.
Oh, one of the pillars.
Like, that's just one of the.
The fact that other people get to see it, do you think that that's an issue?
You think that he might be really enjoying the sex, but then when it comes to the long-term point of view, that might be a disqualifier?
No.
I mean, like, he participates in the OnlyFans.
What would he manage the OnlyFans?
What would he get out of making it exclusive?
Like, what extra benefit would he get?
I don't know.
I'm giving him all the benefits already.
So while I don't agree with his mindset, I totally understand it.
Like, you know, I would love to be the wife and do all the things, but like, I understand that he's.
If he told you to delete it tomorrow, you would just mean he's giving him all of those wife things without being the title.
What about if you're not?
If I told you to delete it tomorrow and he said that we can be together, you just got to delete your OnlyFans, would you do it?
Yeah.
Okay.
As long as he's paying the bills, you know?
Because that's paying the bills now.
Does he get money from your OF?
No.
But you said that.
Right.
If we reach a certain profit, then he would, but we're not that.
He's not just in the videos, he's also helping you manage it too.
Right.
That's a new thing.
We're officially business partners.
But he's not getting paid yet?
No.
He doesn't want the money.
He wants me to have all the money, correct?
So he's not a business partner.
He's a helper.
Yeah, I suppose.
Then what's all that you give to him?
What's that all that you give to him?
What's that?
What you give to him, except, you know, like having sex all these, like, I mean, cook for it for him, clean his space, do his laundry, all the things that I enjoy to do.
I'm like a, no, we don't.
I'm like a total caretaker as a person.
Like, I just, that's the only passion I really have in life is taking care of other people.
So like, I love this man, and I love, like, I get joy out of taking care of him.
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Would any of the girls date a guy who plays World of Warcraft?
Oh, this is a 20 plus week.
Thank you.
We'll go around the table really quick on this.
Would any of the girls date a guy who plays World of Warcraft 20 plus hours a week?
If he was still successful in a career and had goals and passion, then I don't see an issue.
What about you?
Yeah, if they can manage their time and their hobbies.
I love video games.
I just finished Baldur's Gate 3, and so I think I could be down.
Yeah, I feel the exact same way.
Like, yeah, sure, if that's your hobby and you have other interests or income, then 20 hours a week is kind of a lot.
Honestly, though, for like an MMORPG, that's kind of rookie numbers.
I'm a Twitch streamer, and I stream, what, three times a week, and I collectively stream at least five hours.
So that's 15 hours in a week that I'm just spending on stream, and not a lot gets done.
Like, in the grand scheme of it, playing a video game for 20 hours a week.
If you're like in a hardcore rating guild, you're playing like seven hours a day.
That's even seven hours a day.
That's like rookie numbers.
Especially like if you're leveling up, like if you're trying to get to 60, like if it's a fresh, fresh server, like you want to put it in like 10, 12 hour days.
And then if you're like ranking in the PVP system, which they recently revamped, but like the old days, like the OG ranking system, you know, you, you do like 16 hour days and you're just in like, you're an AV Warsong Gulch, like maybe trying to fit in like, are you the gamer that has games?
Did you ask this question?
No, that's not me.
That's right.
Just wants to kill it.
What about you?
It's a red flag.
I would say if it was their full-time job, like they're a Twitch streamer and they're playing World of Warcraft and that's how they make their money.
It's just a hobby, I guess.
If it's just a hobby.
Yeah, 20 hours is like hobby territory for it would be tough.
If it wasn't consuming their life, then maybe I can make that work.
Yeah, see, if it's not consuming their life, like I play video games, so that's not a problem at all.
It wouldn't be a problem.
I also play video games.
Okay.
I think if there's anything sexual or violent in that video game, we shouldn't even play it.
So no.
GTA, you can take yells in the back of the mouth in San Andreas.
I appreciate the effort that people took in, you know, ranking up, going higher level, but I don't consider it as a job, as a verb, or yeah, World of Warcraft, there's not really anything sexual, but like there's RP servers, like role-playing servers, and sometimes those people like role-play weird shit.
I know, and it really helps with a lot of skills to develop and it can have good things, but I still don't support video games.
No.
But if your guy is on their phone and they see sexual stuff as they're scrolling, I mean, what's really the difference?
If you see, first of all, on Instagram, following those YouTube videos.
Because it's on your 4U page.
Your 3D page.
Anything in the algorithm can pop up.
But you can close your eyes and you can also scroll on.
That's what I do.
I just close my eyes.
No, I see anything pop up.
Yeah.
No, so we have a magnet in our finger sometimes that draws us to the titties.
Yeah, but click it sometimes.
Aerials, a button.
No, the algorithm is clever.
Of course, it's going to have naked pictures, whatever, but it can, you know, just pass by, pass by.
Okay.
Sometimes you double.
That's beautiful.
Double pass by.
All right.
Homath, did you have anything else?
Did you want to add anything?
If you're playing 20 hours of video games a week and you have a full-time job, when do you have time for anything else?
Like, what are you cutting out?
How much sleep are you cutting out?
Have any of you ever dated a guy who played 20 hours of video games a week?
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Well, yeah.
L on the girls.
You need to go to Colombia.
OF girls, not use Sam delusional.
Especially the poor liberal beta that falls and marries you.
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Yeah, beaten cheeks now to beat.
I think I've got you on Twitter, so yeah.
Yeah, Thailand is an L for the girls in Thailand because some of them have little penises between their legs.
So you've got to be very careful.
But Colombia is good, but it's actually not the best.
I actually don't really write Colombian girls that much because they're very, very sort of like materialistic.
Eastern Europe is the way to go.
Hungarian girls are my actual favorite.
So I'm not just saying that.
I promise you.
Hungarian girls are just sort of in between Russian and Italian, and I like them both, but if there's a nice in-between, you know?
Hungarian.
We're kind of like shopping the planet for a woman.
Did you want to come back?
You said you wanted to someone else.
What's your name?
Caden, really.
Caden.
It seemed like we were picking on you a bit before.
But I think the point that we were making is, and Homath, I think, nailed it when he said that you're in that sleeper zone.
You seem to be showing loyalty to this guy.
You said you cook, you clean, you do his laundry, all these things that we appreciate.
You're a lovely girl.
You seem clever.
The one thing that's keeping you in the sleeper zone is that you have your body on the internet.
And whether or not he tells you that, because he won't tell you that, but that, mark my words, that is what it is.
That's what disqualifies it because men, we care about how we look in public.
And if he has to introduce you and say, oh, this is my girlfriend, she does OnlyFans, then that's going to be embarrassing.
So you've got all of the, you tick all these boxes.
And that last one.
But we've been together since before I did OnlyFans.
And his state of mind has not changed.
It has been consistent.
And if he was that against it, why would he partake in it?
And he's benefiting from it.
He's disqualified her from the long-term relationship, though.
But they were in the world.
He's against it for his own interests.
So he's only okay with it because he gets the sexual pleasure out of it, but otherwise he's not okay with it.
So she's just said that she would be with him if it weren't for, if he didn't resist.
So if she wants to be with him, but he doesn't want to be with her, and she ticks all these boxes, they've been in a relationship before.
The disqualifying factor would be the OnlyFans.
Or is it that he has commitment issues?
Well, you can see that.
But the only thing that you're basing it off of is what you know about her.
You know nothing about him.
So he could have hard commitment issues.
I don't either.
Okay, so then let's not jump to generalizations then.
So what we're speaking about here, and I'm sure that Brian could attest, is that guys automatically disqualify girls, generalizing.
Obviously, you're married, so congratulations.
Thank you.
But guys tend to disqualify girls when they have their body online.
Yeah, because I mean, you can't take it back.
Like in their eyes, that's theirs.
They want it for their eyes only.
And now that you've put it out there, no, granted, yeah, he was with you before that, but obviously now he's not with you.
And the only thing that's, in our eyes, that's really changed is a really big factor.
And that's your body is now on the internet and you can never take that back.
Yeah, and you share it.
And I guess you don't only share your body, but those people are watching and they are sending that energy to you.
So you even share your soul because it's so intimate.
It's not just that it's a picture.
It's sharing that relationship.
And people have the ability to remove emotion from that.
But the conversations that I have with people are a platonic relationship that I have with someone who's on the internet.
That would just be like, you know, Brian and Beaten Cheeks for example.
For people who subscribe to your OnlyFans, would you call that a platonic friend?
I mean, I don't call it a boyfriend or a platform.
Yeah, but there is relationships.
I have no control what the person on the other side is.
I'm there for there's a service or something that I'm providing.
How the other person on the other side is taking it is from their perspective.
But you're aware that they're buying makeup.
Oh, absolutely.
I'm putting it out there for them to buy.
But that's not platonic.
Platonic means that there's no sexualization and that's inherently sexual, what you're talking about.
But it's not more than what the transaction is.
If I have a friend, if me and Brian were friends and he started sending me nudes, I would be like, Brian doesn't want this platonic friendship.
He actually does that.
I do.
That's the same concept of someone thinking that you go to a strip club and you buy a dance.
They automatically assume that that stripper's in love with them.
That's not a possibility.
But it's not a service.
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I want to try to.
Homath, let's get you in here.
What you got for us?
What you got for us, homath?
I mean, I'm just trying to cut in with basically, like I gotta agree with the European accent, girl.
I'm sorry, I didn't get your name.
That there is something, there's something spiritual, there's something emotional that connects you to these people who are seeing you in sexual situations, just when they think about it, when they see the images of it, when they have the feelings that they feel.
I lived with a girl once.
I'll tell you a little short little story.
I lived with a girl who I found out was like I let her move into my closet.
It's all I had.
I had a space for her to live in a walk-in closet.
And she was just, you know, nothing.
This is like Harry Potter.
It's kind of like Harry Potter.
Yeah, she was doing witch stuff too.
She had like crystals and all that.
And she was just not doing great.
And I had extra space.
So I let her live with me.
It wasn't a sexual romantic relationship.
I found out that she was like doing prostitution on Backpage.
And as I got to know her more and more, I saw that it was affecting her emotionally.
Making it a transaction does not separate the emotional component from it.
And even if it's subtle on OnlyFans or on the internet, even if it's a more subtle form of it, because you're not actually touching or meeting the people, it still is there.
It still is.
There is some part of your deeper self that you are selling.
Is it transactional?
But what if, so what if you would consider the act that you're doing more of, you know, people have kinks and fantasies.
And so what if the act that you're doing is actually a kink and it's like recording yourself, right?
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Any advice on dating for a guy who is on a drug for panic disorder?
Nardil, I have edin and orgasmia from this drug and it's frustrating, but the drugs are necessary for me to function in daily life.
On dating for a guy who's on a drug for...
Well, I mean, it seems like the drug is impairing your sexual function, so...
Yeah.
But that doesn't preclude you from dating.
Obviously, you can have relationships.
Are you able to have sex?
Are you able to do other things?
But I have actually experienced on this.
I'm sorry.
I know that's like really weird.
Yeah, go ahead.
If you want to answer it quickly.
My most recent ex-boyfriend actually had an EDM.
But genuinely, I just, honesty is best.
I don't know.
Like, it wasn't weird whatsoever.
Like, he felt really weird, felt really, like, ashamed of it.
And I told him, I was like, oh, whatever.
Like, it just, it wasn't a big deal.
But especially when it comes to anxiety, again, honesty and communication.
Communication is key in relationships.
It's about not caring.
With that, it's a mental thing most of the time.
If it's a physical thing, then you should get medicated.
Yeah, as long as you...
But, like, a lot of the time it actually happens if you really want to impress the girl.
If you meet a...
If you meet a girl, you're like, I've got to perform here.
You won't.
If you don't care about the girl.
But at least if you give her a heads up and be like, hey, I know things are getting a little spicy.
I don't want you to feel like it's a you problem, not it's a me problem, or you know, or even bring it up before it even gets to that point and just make her aware that, you know, maybe.
And then the seeds planted, though, so you got to be careful with that as well.
Yeah, but I mean, again, it wasn't a weird thing.
It was like an, oh, okay, that's a medical condition that you have no control over.
I've found also that this is getting into a bit of a deeper conversation about it, but I've found this, like, because it's happened to me a few times as well.
There are certain girls who are just really good at like managing the situation, and then there are other girls who bring attention to it, and it's like it really is.
It's the worst thing you can do.
Not for nothing.
You never had a problem with me.
Like you said, it's more of like a if they just sort of chill about it and whatever, then you all just chill about it.
And then 10 minutes later.
You get caught up in your head.
Like, you know, when you have panic disorder, I call it hurricane brain.
Like, when I'm having anxiety about something, anything and everything in the world could just set me off or make it that much worse.
Let's try to address the question, though, instead of making it about you.
So, if you can.
No, no, but again, just honesty and communication is genuinely what I think is going to help in any situation like that.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree with you.
Like, the girl, if she's drawing more attention to it, that just makes it worse.
Honestly, yeah, it's true.
And then I would also just say, hey, just find a girl who's, I mean, there's obviously, you don't, you can do other things too, you know?
So, um, oh, wow.
Okay, look at that drawing there.
That's what he was getting.
I thought it was just a beautiful subliminal message.
It takes me a minute to get caught up, but someone said something about Jesus, so I just thought I would.
Okay.
Got it.
So I think you were saying something about.
Yeah, you were talking about like selling a piece of your soul when it happens.
Yeah, when your bodies connect sexually, you know, and you're basically the sperm and egg merged, that's two different lives coming together into the vibration.
That's what he does.
They become one flesh.
And the actions that lead up to that are also bonding in the more subtle realms of existence.
In the physical realm of existence, it's the sexual act creates new life.
But in the mental and spiritual realms of existence, sharing sexual experiences, even over the internet, is kind of sort of the same thing.
Yeah, you could, I mean, yes, there is that point too, but also, so for me, right, before I even started this, I was recording myself in the act.
And that thought process, the idea of someone watching or someone, you know, looking, watching, whatever it is, that could be considered a kink, right?
So if you're doing something because you think it's hot, it's turning you and your partner on in that scenario.
No real man will ever be with a woman that has done any sort of promiscuous activities, period.
Once you females accept that move on and find your simp, there are so many lonely, mentally weak males ready to save you when Jesus won't.
It's not entirely wrong.
Not entirely.
It's pretty, it's kind of wrong.
Like there are some guys will go for it, and Jesus will still save you, but it's directionally accurate.
Jesus will save you.
That is true.
Yeah.
But yeah, so basically in the grand scheme of it, while yes, you're creating a relationship with someone, you don't have to give up your soul or all of your emotions.
You can have a transactional relationship with someone who's seeking something.
And if you're pleasured by providing that service, then that's all that it is.
It's just revealed that I don't want to share or I want to share.
It's a fact.
You share your soul.
You share your soul.
I mean, everybody calls.
I think that's great.
And I don't think sharing yourself is a well that will run dry at any time.
I think to be alive is to love and be loved as much as possible.
So why not?
Like, which level are you think?
But the well always ends up running dry eventually.
I don't think so.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
It does eventually run dry eventually.
I don't think that's true.
And the metaphor that I'm using here.
That's a sad thing.
You want to bring water to the village while the well is still running.
Do you know what I mean?
I don't think that I always feel like I'm so overwhelmed and overflowing with love and care for people.
Whether it's sexual.
So you have to show yourself naked with love.
Whether that's sexual or friendly or doing good for others, I think I will never run out of the desire to do that.
And so I can't imagine desire.
It's not love.
It's desire.
But once you've put yourself all the way out there, what more do you have to give?
You know what I mean?
Like, I have so much to give.
I'm all well-rounded.
We all have a limited amount to give.
No, no.
Shut up.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Sorry.
You guys?
You speak?
Oh, my last thing I said was shut up.
You speak, and then I'm kidding.
I love you.
Okay, I think you're talking to me.
I'm getting, it's kind of fuzzy in the audio.
We all have a limited amount of things.
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You should look into the eyes of women who've done prom and bagged hundreds of bodies.
The light has literally drained from their eyes and they are hollow.
No, no.
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That's going us, yeah.
The chat is going in today.
The thing is, though, like what you're saying is I completely agree with you that you have a lot of love to give and everything, but maybe the love that you're trying to give is misguided to simps on the internet.
Maybe the love that you should be giving is to a partner and to a family.
I give my love to everyone I can.
You give your love.
Is it fake love?
To everyone you can.
Because I don't think love has to just be romantic love.
I think there's so many different types of love in the world.
And so that's what I'm meaning.
Maybe this is like the thing that I find with.
And look, I'm not judging you for doing OnlyFans.
I think you can do whatever the hell you want.
But it's just, it kind of seems like cope to me when you say that I'm spreading love.
You want to make money.
That's your primary objective.
Would you do it for free?
Oh, good.
Unfortunately, that was a good question.
I think, yeah, like the primary reason why girls go towards sex work is because it's lucrative and it can change lives.
It can help stabilize women.
So when you can imagine a guy who's spending his money on your OnlyFans and he's...
You kind of stopped.
When you can imagine a guy who's spending money on your OnlyFans, dick in hand, late at night, feeling lonely, are you spreading love to that guy?
Yeah.
You think that that's lovely?
Yeah.
What form of love is that?
What would you call it?
I don't know, because I really enjoy the experience of what I do.
Selfish love?
Like, don't you do it for yourself more than for others?
Yeah, is it self-love?
Is it friendly love?
Is it erotic, romantic?
Are you drawing Hitler?
I'm drawing the look in the eyes.
It's delayed by a minute, but they said that when, you know, the girls, the girls who do porn forever have like a look in their eyes that don't have a lot of stuff.
What's that called?
The thousand cock stare?
Yeah, I'm capturing the thousand cocks.
Is that what that's called?
You know, like thousand yard stare, but for cocks.
But yeah, I grew up really religious in a household where like my siblings.
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Yeah, I grew up really religious in a Catholic household.
My siblings all wear full-on pants and long sleeves to go swimming, like very conservative.
Bikinis?
Oh, wow.
Is that what it's called?
I think that's Go ahead That's sorry.
And so I found when I was trying to discover myself sexually, I felt a lot of shame in expressing myself and found a lot of comfort in expressing myself online because it was this way to dip my toes into intimacy and fun without it feeling like too serious or like, oh, I'm having this like interesting conversation with this guy online, but like it's at my pace.
It's like my comfort level.
And so yeah, maybe like it's not like love in that scenario that you gave, Jake, but like it's something and it sparks something in me and it's fun and exciting.
And I don't think that's wrong.
So at the end of the day, it's for you though.
You're not spreading love.
It makes you feel like you're not.
It's speeding you.
It would be in that situation where dick in hand at the middle of the night, it's not about love.
But that's essentially what OnlyFans is, though.
And like, trust me when I say I'm not judging you, I've done all of the bad things, all the sex, drugs, and rubber.
I'm not judging you.
But when you say spreading love, we just have to sort of get our facts right here because OnlyFans is inherently not spreading love.
It's actually fueling an addiction that guys have and it's fueling a loneliness epidemic.
And why do you have to take your clothes off to fulfill that need?
I mean, I didn't say this, but I model a lot in the automotive industry.
But I also have done like lingerie and stuff like that.
And to me, like I've been pressured many, many times to do OnlyFans and have I considered it?
Yeah, but at the same time, like I've said, once I give that or once I put that out there, like for that person that I want to spend the rest of my life with, like that's now no longer just his or like just for him or just for our intimate time.
I think that's where we differ because I really don't believe in ownership and relationships.
I believe it's two people, two individuals coming together to make something bigger.
And this is love when you don't share your stuff with someone, I guess.
But I don't also see like the human body as being something that's like degrading myself to have and show.
I really don't know.
But I mean, I think it's a good idea.
And we just have that opinion.
Like if you don't want to do OnlyFans and you feel like that's for your person, fuck yeah.
But I show my body, but I don't show all of my body.
You know what I mean?
What's the difference between your stomach and something else?
It's just your body and it's just.
But the thing is though, this is the thing that a lot of younger girls particularly will say.
It's the fluffy sort of like, oh, it's just free love and we can do whatever we want and show our body.
And at the end of the day, it's not just your body.
It's not just your body.
Your body's actually very significant, especially through the eyes of a man.
If you are, and like you're 25 now, you will have a completely different mindset in 10 years' time when it comes to this sort of stuff.
I guarantee you.
And like, I know it seems like I'm picking on you.
I don't, but I'm just saying that I think I'm not.
I'm just saying to who are your artists.
I think that you're like, there's more in you.
Hold on just one second.
I think that you're a really nice girl.
And honestly, you've got a great energy and you do have a lot of love to give.
I can tell that.
But you're corrupted by this fluffy-duffy narrative of, oh, we can give our love to anybody.
It's just lifestyle.
Think about all the people, Jake.
You want?
Because I agree with you that what you're talking about, it's more likely that we're spreading lust with things like this, right?
But why is it on her to stop offering it?
Why is it not on men to stop consuming it?
Yeah, it's true.
Well, it's both.
It's like everyone should do their part to not have good donation.
The interesting thing about OnlyFans is the girls think they are getting one over on men.
But the guy that owns OnlyFans is paying himself a million bucks a month.
And he still owns the billion dollar company where they are the product for sale.
It's actually a chick who owns it.
I thought it was a dude who owns it.
That's very assumptuous that an OnlyFans model thinks that they're getting one over.
If I'm laying out exactly what I'm offering you and you're choosing what you're buying, that's like walking up to a bar, right?
You have tequila, vodka, rum, bourbon.
If I'm choosing to order tequila and take a shot of tequila, that's on me.
But it's a tequila.
It's a little different.
It's a little soul.
It's a little different, though, because there's a lot of women on OnlyFans who have management companies who will respond.
Like you'll have some dude in Bangladesh responding on your behalf.
So the comparison would be like you walk up to a bar and there's a bottle of Don Perrion or whatever.
I don't fucking expensive bottle of alcohol.
And you fill in the cheap Costco liquor vodka in place of the high ticket.
And you're like, boom, vodka.
But actually, it's probably even worse.
But that's then now taking this massive group of people and conforming it into one and saying that everybody is the same.
We had that question before over here, though.
You did say that why is it her responsibility?
So it's like the analogy that's going to be.
Oh my God.
AOBTA.
What are the 304s going to do when perfectly curated sex dolls become socially acceptable?
Laura, what's the best place to meet a muscle mommy?
Captain Morgan pose.
He wants the Captain Morgan.
Captain Morgan pose.
I don't know what that is.
What's the best place to meet a muscle mommy at the gym?
Or the grocery store and the healthy sections of the home food meal truck companies or something like that?
I think they're going to be really disappointed about the impact of sex dolls.
I don't think that's like these guys talk about it like once they're real enough, it's going to change things around here.
And it's not.
It's like there's still going to be attractive men, attractive women finding each other, and the sex dolls are just going to be for the guys who don't have anything anyway.
What if it's like a really dope sex doll though?
Like that not only has sex, but also like cooks and cleans and what else?
Does your taxes wouldn't you rather have a real woman fight with you a little than program a robot to be to do everything you want?
Fight with you a little.
I mean we need submissive with a little bit of brat in there, you know?
There needs to be a little bit of like, I'm causing a problem for nothing or it's not like I'm gonna I would get bored of like oh you're nice again today.
That would be have a cute tantrum.
Wait, you would be homath, you would be bored by that.
Yeah.
Like programming.
When I'm getting to know a girl, when she starts getting all shitty with me, that's when I know she likes me.
When she's just going like, what are you doing wrong that I can pick at instead of myself?
Wait, are you joking?
Are you joking?
Are you joking?
No, that's the game.
Like, that's got to be there.
If she's nice to you all the time.
Oh, I like it when they're nice to me all the time.
I don't like conflict.
Yeah, I love feeding on a video game.
I'm like, oh, what am I even doing?
Wasting my time.
Can we get back to this question?
Yeah.
Okay.
So the question that you had, do you mean 100%?
I might have to boost it.
Did you all see the video of the guy walking around the mall with a big rolling TV screen with an anime waifu on it?
And that's not even an anatomical robot.
Just saying.
Waifu.
I didn't do that.
I think, I mean, I definitely think.
I mean, honestly, I think what the future holds, we're not even going to, it's not even necessarily going to be sex robots.
We're just going to have robots that can just help us take care of our things, and there'll be like a fucking DLC or some shit.
What's that?
Like, you know, like video games?
Yeah, DLC.
Like, here's the sex package.
And the sex mod?
The sex mod?
No, because, like, yeah, it's just going to be like, okay, they're going to, you know, take care of all the chores, and then the sex will be like a secondary, auxiliary sort of thing.
Does that get exhausted?
Yeah, it's like it's never, it's always like foreshadowing, right?
It's never personable.
Like, it's always gonna be like what you program it to be, and it's never gonna be like, oh.
Wait, Nick, pull up the video.
Pull up the bowing video.
Find that for me.
Yeah, find the bowing video.
It's a good point.
I have it on there.
There's not much Nick.
Go scroll, make it bigger.
Bigger.
Two bit.
I guess that's okay.
Yeah, that's fine.
All right, go ahead.
You can play it.
Scroll up a little bit.
Scroll up?
Wait, you missed the.
Wait, did we miss the bow?
Now we got the bow.
Did we get the bow?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, wait.
Are we too big on this, Nick?
Is there a smaller version?
Where's the smaller one?
That's fine.
That's fine.
See, this is what we need.
That's what.
We got the bow, right?
Did we see that?
Yeah, yeah.
I want a girl who bows.
That's just a jacket.
I want to bow.
Yeah, it'll serve.
I would appreciate it.
Look at the bow.
Look at the bow.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, he throws it.
He literally goes, that's based.
That's super based.
What do you provide in return?
Like, for the bow.
If you provide something, like, we always say, like, a high-value, as long as you're a high-value man and can provide something, you'll be submitted to.
Oh, yeah, that's a guy who's making probably like six figures a month.
That's what I'm saying.
But that's what that guy wants.
The guy who makes that much money, that's what he wants.
Sex workers are feeding an addiction.
You are not spreading love but a drug called lust.
You are no better than a drug dealer.
Wow.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah.
It's yeah.
I think he's pretty much true.
And like, you know, like, we've all done these sorts of things in the past, and I've had to like confront my own, like, how I was contributing to the problem as well.
And it's not a nice thing to confront, but eventually you do have to confront it.
So the analogy was.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Omat.
Go ahead.
Yeah, the way you got to think about it is the guys who consume this content, are they more or less loving the more of the content that they consume?
Like a guy who spends all of his time looking at OnlyFans and porn, is he a better person when he goes outside and talks to people, or is he a worse person?
There's no statistics on that.
You don't know.
It depends on the person, their values, their beliefs, their morals, how they act in the role of the world.
There's neuroscience that shows the effect of porn and what they're doing.
Like the Scarlet Johansson movie, remember, where her boyfriend's got to porn?
Y'all have never seen that?
I haven't.
I don't know that one.
Okay, well, that's a deep cut.
Yeah, that's a good question.
But the question, it's obvious that with the.
Sorry, I just wanted to finish the point that we're talking about.
So the analogy of a bar, right?
So we have all these different liquors, we have all these different liquors, and you can go in and buy the tequila or the bourbon or whatever.
If you're a person, if you're that person, that man, going into the bar and you have a drinking problem, isn't some of that responsibility on you not to consume that alcohol?
100%.
How does the bar know if you have a drinking problem?
Exactly.
Yeah, no, exactly.
It is a good point, but the question that you asked before was, why is it on her?
You said it's the main thing.
Well, I said she like collaboration.
She should give me some responsibility as well on not to consume this content.
Yes.
Right.
Definitely.
Because not everyone's.
We don't disagree with that.
We completely agree with that.
But the thing where we disagree is I would not absolve them of responsibility.
And you're not saying I'm doing that either.
Yeah.
So I think it's joint for sure.
And I also think it's the messaging around it as well.
That's this whole like, but yeah, like I said, it's not a lot of people.
Not everyone has a bad relationship with sex and is addicted to sex.
Anyone who's watching OnlyFans and is spending money on OnlyFans, that's an inherently negative relationship they've got with you.
That's not true because I spend money on OnlyFans and I have a great relationship.
How much do you earn on OnlyFans?
That's not something I want to tell you.
How much do you earn in life?
Yeah, but like, what I'm saying is that you earn more than you spend on OnlyFans.
You spend money to learn.
Well, sure, but it doesn't mean like, like, I'm just giving you an example of someone that has a fine relationship with, I love sex, I love, I don't know what words are going to say, masturbating.
And I get the rocks.
I don't feel shame or feel like I'm being hurt by enjoying and partaking.
And if someone does have an addiction, like she was saying, it's not the creator's responsibility.
Thank you.
But don't you.
Sorry.
No, you go.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, but you're saying it's not the creator's responsibility, but it's just like you could use the bar or you could use like a drug dealer at the same time.
But you also does a drug dealer have responsibility.
What she makes versus how much she spends.
No one should be spending their full income to consume something.
Totally.
That's right.
And like, I've even had people message me.
Fred underscore Dust donated $99.
I mean, we're posting any form of sex work/slash only fans, though I've used the services.
I didn't come out of the backside of said usage feeling any love from the poster/slash platform at which I received pleasure from.
That's all it is.
Momentary pleasure.
And that's all it should be.
It depends on what you're doing.
That was beautiful.
That was beautiful, Fred.
It's using the weakness of men because they are, you know, they go after their eyes, their desire, their testosterone.
And if they have good testosterone, they want to have sex every single day.
And if they don't have a physical partner, they want to search for someone online.
And don't you think you use their weakness?
It's like there's an obese kid with diabetes and you just take chocolates in front of the kid.
How I see it, though, is I'm not going into it with the intention.
Oh, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
You're good.
I'm not going into it with the mindset and intentions to abuse someone's sexuality.
I enjoy what I do.
I enjoy having sexual experiences with people.
And if they find me and want to have that, I am happy to host.
You know, like, I think intimacy is one of the.
Sorry.
One more thing.
I think intimacy is one of the main reasons why sex work is so like emotional intimacy is why it's like been like around for so long.
And of course it's about like sex and pleasure and all of that.
But a lot of people just want that connection and humanity.
And I think that is so beautiful that I can provide that to people.
But is the momentary pl I'm sorry.
Is the momentary pleasure worthy?
Last thing, and I want to move off from this topic.
Go ahead.
Is the momentary pleasure like worth the money?
I mean, because like there are repercussions moving forward because think about it, like if you do end up having children or whatever down the line, that the internet is forever and you're now affecting people in your life that's not even in your life right now.
And I feel like there's a lot of people like Kim Hardashi and Tricia Paytas who've done either a sex tape or OnlyFans and now they have children and now they regret it so much because their children are able to go on the internet and so easily find their parents' sex work.
I hope to raise my kids to understand that life is not black and white and that there's so many avenues that we can all fall down where like you have a past that you're not proud of.
It doesn't make you any worse of a person.
It doesn't make you any less deserving of love.
And I want my kids to like hold that and be like, everyone has their thing.
It's going to make it harder for you to get a relationship though.
Yeah.
I've seen them.
They got the best sex.
What's up?
I don't mind having problems, Brian.
What's that?
I don't have any problems getting a relationship.
Yes, you've been going two weeks on, two weeks off.
Yeah, I was going to say you haven't had a relationship.
Yeah, well, hold on.
Yeah, I mean, hold on, okay, we'll come back.
Raven DT donated $100.
The way I deal with my pran addiction is by dumping all of my disposable income on super chats for whatever.
Can't sub to OnlyFans if all my money goes to Master Brian.
This is genius.
All the OnlyFans simps should redirect their wasted money on my podcast.
That's what I think.
And that's what, like, it's like comparing you find a streamer, right, that streams and you like their message and you like what they stand for, so people spend their money on things that they enjoy.
Yeah.
Whether that's your content or our content.
Who was it who said, I don't have a problem getting a relationship?
That's me.
The feed is a couple seconds behind.
Were you one of the girls who does OnlyFans?
Yes.
I am, yeah.
So is your relationship quality, is the status of your relationship exactly where you want it to be?
Like, is this the final relationship you want to have?
I'm not in a relationship.
She's not in the relationship.
But that's also why, because I feel like I'm picky.
I travel a lot.
And double red flag.
Picky and red.
Yeah, but I'm a guy.
We're different.
Oh, I hadn't even said that.
Oh, my God.
Oh, you can get triggered about it, but you're getting triggered about reality.
Wait, how the fuck did that go?
Why is that looking?
Nick, why did you do that?
Because if a girl moves around a lot, generally it tends to mean that she's having various different experiences overseas and she's going to places like Dubai and Miami and these places, there tends to be trouble that happens.
We would like, guys are just, like, you may not agree with it, but guys just like girls.
God, we can't win, can we, Jake?
Oh, you can.
It's actually quite easy.
And if you do, if you listen, it's actually very easy.
Why is wanting life experience a red flag?
Because, I mean, in my case, at least, I've almost lost my life twice.
So I take every opportunity I can to travel.
I travel around the country, going to different car events, and that means everything to me because if I did.
You travel and go to different caravans?
What?
What is that button?
Car events.
Car events, not caravans.
Sorry.
Car events.
Which one?
Which one do you want?
The asteroid?
What do you mean?
I do think in RV.
I do.
I live in an RV.
I have tragic women.
Chad's at those car events.
A bit of a red flag, too.
Living in an RV.
Women who do van life, it's red flag.
But I'm in one location.
I haven't.
Yeah, yeah, no, no.
I'm in one location.
I plan on staying in one location.
I would love to travel around, but at this point.
Why can't I explore the world as much as you, huh?
Well, that was Jake's position.
What the fuck?
But it is kind of like, well, a girl who travels a lot, you're in a new city.
Mm-hmm.
Sure.
You're going to get a dick in the new city.
I didn't want to know that.
Maybe.
Maybe, maybe.
That's a vampire.
Maybe I'll try to get it.
What if she finds another woman?
What if she's into girls?
Like, is that a word?
It adds to your body count.
Listen, as somebody who travels a lot, I know.
Totally fine, by the way.
Yeah, absolutely.
It is.
It's fine.
It's a green flag for a guy.
I know.
Reality hurts sometimes.
But yeah, as somebody who does that a lot, I'm well aware of what happens when girls travel a lot, when girls are in new cities all the time.
I just lived in Asia for eight months.
You know how toxic traveling men are?
They're just like, I'm going to find new pussy every night.
I'm going to go off.
Like, I'm not going to talk to these girls.
Why is it like a man/slash woman thing?
The fact that you lived in Asia for eight months, like, honestly, I know what happens in Asia.
What happens in the world?
What are you kidding?
What's happening?
I wish I don't have any extra.
What happens in the world?
It's not like you're very knowledgeable.
You're having a lifestyle that's very specific.
I went to guitar sashes on the beach.
I learned how to scuba dive.
I don't know what you're up to.
But I guess you have to fly life.
I think you were making gold rights.
I think you were making content while you were in the world.
Oh, yeah.
Sons of Minor.
Mars Noir.
Yeah, so the argument is essentially that, like, you know, is there anything that you would do that would be something you think I don't really want to do that just in case, you know, it might limit my options?
Or is it just whatever?
Before I started sex work, I already recognized the things that I would be limiting myself in.
And I think if you're going to start in that industry, you have to be honest with yourself and comfortable with that.
Because in our society, it is very frowned upon.
For what?
What's frowned upon?
Well, just like y'all's view of bodily autonomy and how having sex and taking something away.
I think that there's a it's not it's not necessarily us doing it.
I think since the beginning of time, in desperate situations, women go towards sex work and men go towards crime.
So that's that's what we're drawing out there.
My family, my mom raised me to be very, like, I joke, colorblind, genderblind, everything.
And she taught me a lot about like sex and like non-vanilla stuff.
So I grew up very understanding and I don't judge people based on what they do in their personal life.
That's you.
Here, let me try to bring it back to a dating context.
You're free to do sex work.
However, I think the point I was trying to make is most men don't want to date women who are involved in sex work.
Yeah.
So that's why I said you're not going to judge people who do that, but men will.
That's why I said it's going to be, you may very well still be able to find a relationship, but you are going to reduce your pool of potential partners because of the work you do.
That's just reality.
There are women who don't want to date me because I'm doing this controversial podcast.
I accept that though.
As a man, I accept that.
There's a lot of women who don't want to date me because of the podcast.
Cool.
That's one of those things that I like keep in mind or kept in mind before I started sex work where it's like you're not going to be everyone's thing.
It's like if I had like blue hair, I wouldn't be everyone's aesthetic.
I mean having blue hair is different.
It's very different.
I'm just giving you like a similar direction.
But what I'm getting at is that people can be understanding, but then again, there's a whole, there's a difference about being understanding about the non-vanilla life and putting it online.
And also just being realistic about, like, when I say that these things are red flags, I'm not saying that because of my own personal biases.
These are like, like the vast, vast majority of guys would agree with me with this stuff.
They might not have to do that.
I think the human desire to travel is a red flag.
Like, come on.
I think it's a red flag for men too.
It's what's associated with it.
When starting it, that's like with any career, right?
You have to think, like, if I choose this career path, where is it going to take me, right?
And that's how you base your decisions.
Most humans will lay out the pros and cons of a situation before making the decision.
As a content creator or whatever realm of sex work you do, that's something that you have to think about before you do it, right?
But ultimately, you're still deciding to do it, knowing what the consequences, the actions, the limitations.
I don't know.
I don't really know what the consequences are.
But I don't think it's going to be a good idea.
Some people do, and some people don't.
Some people sign up, do it, and they don't care.
They don't consider it.
They're probably never coaching.
We get it.
Like, okay, we've talked about sex work for way too long.
Really, related to the traveling thing being a red flag, we have a video from Andrew Tate that's related to this.
While we watch that, Nick, if you can go in the podcast videotate folder, it's I think we have the video.
I could be wrong.
We'll watch it.
If it's not, we'll just get off of it.
It's let me know when you get that folder pulled up, Nick, and then we'll get to it.
While you do that, while you get there, I'm going to pull up a chat.
We have Stephen Ray 85.
Can the ladies answer this?
Would they date a guy who runs a farm and also love the podcast?
Just feel bad for your sanity.
My sanity is getting chipped away day by day.
Would you date a guy who runs a farm?
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
That's a green flag.
Yeah.
I think Stephen Ray owns a farm, so that's him shooting his shot.
Nick, do you have the folder pulled up?
What's the video?
You say red flag?
I think it's innocence.
Tate Nelk Innocence.
I think it's that one.
Yeah, right there.
We're getting it pulled up here in just one sec, guys.
Nick, if you're able to bring back a limit.
One sec, guys.
Oh, wow.
He is drawing Jesus.
Okay.
There you have it, though.
I think this, if it's not, then we'll.
Oh, I would keep it.
I don't know.
Okay, just.
Okay.
Yeah.
If you're looking for a one-night stand and one chick has three bodies and one chick has 50, a chick with 50 is going to give you a whip.
Can you press play?
A freakier night and then chick with three.
So I'd probably say that.
Whatever.
We'll just fuck it.
You're going to walk around looking for chicks thinking, I want one that smells good.
For a one-night stand, though.
I want one who's compliant.
I think he gets to smile.
Who's going to give you a freakier night?
Yeah, I wouldn't want that.
I don't think anyone's equal.
Okay, two bodies, two bodies.
Yeah, fuck it.
You virtual for a one-night stand.
It's innocence that men find appealing.
I know most people don't understand.
Women don't even know what men find attractive.
What actually amazes me is that women go through the world and they're so concerned with how they look, but they have no understanding on a basic level of what men find attractive in women.
And I know that for a fact because every single time I sit with a chick and talk to her, especially for the first time or on a date or something, she's saying always completely the wrong thing.
She's saying exactly which makes me less attracted to her.
The fact she's still hot will get her through it.
What's the worst thing a woman can say on a first date?
The worst thing is it's just basically things they don't think about, right?
What's the worst thing they could say on the phone?
I mean, there's a bunch of dumb shit they could say, but within a realistic, within a realistic frame, women will sit there and do something they think is innocent.
They'll talk about traveling.
I've been to here and I've been to there and I loved what I saw this.
My favorite place is this.
When you sit with a dude on a first date and tell him how many places you've been, all he's thinking is, you've been fucked.
You've been fucked by who.
Who paid for that?
Who paid for that?
Oh, nice hotel, bitch.
Like, it's bullshit.
Like, shut the fuck up.
And on top of it, men want innocence.
And the reason we find innocence attractive is because we want to be the female's portal to the world.
If I meet a woman.
You want to hear they've never been anyway.
Never.
I will shoot through the world.
100%.
The first private jet you get on will be mine.
You've ever been to Lambo?
No?
You're getting my one first.
I'm going to show you brand new experiences.
If I sit there with some bitch and she's like, I've been there, I've been that.
I went to this party.
My friend has a jet.
I was in this Lambo.
Da, da, da, da.
And you're just like, shut the fuck up.
There's nothing less attractive because we want to be their portal to the world.
The reason women don't understand this is they sometimes think, especially if they're sitting with a G, like if they sit with a guy like me, they feel like they have to prove themselves by pretending they've been with other ballers, right?
They don't want to sit there with a man like me and go, oh, I've never been to a restaurant like this.
I wish they would say that.
That's the most fucking attractive thing they could say to me.
But instead, they'll say, yeah, I've been here, da-da-da, my friend, and I did this.
They dropped Dubai and then.
And they start dropping about fucking other shit that they did with their motherfuckers.
If they say do bye, you got to get the check right away.
Yeah, it's just like, shut up.
Shut up.
But they don't.
So, women don't even know what men find attractive because we're interested in innocence.
So, he's talking about body counts.
It's not even just about the freaky da-da.
I'm interested if I have an experience with a woman, whether it's sexual or non-sexual.
I want to be her portal to the world.
I want to be the person who shows her something for the first time.
I don't want to fuck a bitch who's been fucked every way she can be fucked.
Like, why have I invented something new now?
Backflips?
All right, so that was sort of related to the travel thing.
Let's get everybody's reaction.
Let's go around the table on that.
Your reaction to the video.
I mean, he's not wrong in the sense of like wanting to show her the world.
I think that's that's there's nothing wrong with wanting to be someone's first experience for something.
But what if she traveled with her family?
Like, what if she had a family that was wealthy and really aspired to travel and show their children the world?
There's a difference between a girl going on girls' trips and hoeing out.
You have to distinguish though, because like that, that's obviously okay, right?
That's what I'm saying.
It's not about the fact that that's what I'm saying.
If she's going on a girls trip and hoeing around, that's very different than seeing the world with her family or going by herself and doing a solo trip.
Yeah, I think he's not wrong in the sense of what he's thinking, but there are situations that your reaction because that kind of addresses the whole travel thing.
Oh, I understand his point of being like, I want to show the person that I'm with new experiences, but okay, she's been to Bali.
Like, let me show her about like being a nice guy, or like, let me show her about dancing.
Is that what women like?
Yeah, but you earlier you said that you get bored with men after two weeks, so I would imagine nice men are even more boring than you get bored of men who I assume are even to some degree.
You said it's like my funny joke, but well, it's true.
It's not boredom, it's just like, especially like when you're like, because like I date to like have that connection and love with people.
If you can tell that I'm usually really honest with my intentions in a relationship or any sort of like dating that I'm doing, situationship or something, like I'll be like, I'm not looking for a long-term partner right now, and if that's what you're looking for, then this should not continue because I don't want to waste your time, I don't want to waste my time, and I don't want to hurt anybody for this.
I enjoy who you are, but it's not worth like seeing.
Yeah, I think that like girls tend to do this very well.
They tend to spin things.
You say, It's not boredom, it's just you know, me just like sort of spreading love.
It can be boredom.
It's not sex work, only fans, it's me just sort of spreading love.
And at the end of the day, it is boredom.
You're getting bored of the guys, you want to move on.
Like, that's that's what it is.
Well, if for it's not boredom necessarily, but like, let's say there's a guy that I'm not the guy anymore after, yeah.
Like, let's say there's a guy that I'm seeing and I'm having fun with, but I wouldn't want to be my partner.
Because for me, it's really important to be like, it means a lot to be a boyfriend, you know?
Like, it's not like just dating casual.
There's a lot of commitment, and I will say, though, what you're talking about, though, when you go traveling in Asia and stuff, this is like your bread and butter because this is exactly what it's like.
People are very free, love, and you know, just people are just traveling and like, yeah, we're just here for a few weeks, just a bit of summer loving.
So, I understand that those experiences are actually being in Asia had some of like the worst dating I've ever had because it was too much of that hippies on the beach.
Well, it was too much of that, like, I'm here for two weeks, and then we'll never see each other again.
And I crave connection and genuine care.
Do you?
I do, yeah.
But you've not, you say you move on from guys really quickly because there's so many like bits and pieces in that of like, maybe this person like wouldn't be my boyfriend, and I don't want them to like get attached in this way.
That's like one nugget of the mindset.
So you do seek something more long-term.
Yeah, of course.
But you just said you're looking for something short-term.
How are you going to know the guy?
How are you going to know the long-term guy when you find if every guy has just bits and pieces, but not everything you want?
Because it'll feel right and it'll make me feel good.
And I'll know.
Have you had that before?
Like, has it ever felt right?
Or are you like, what I'm worried about is you're going to wake up and be 45 one day and no one will have ever felt right.
I've been in love a couple times.
I feel a lot for a lot of people that I've gone out with, whether long term or short term.
And I know when I felt it, it's just been like, this is right.
So I don't think I'm worried about like being 40 and not offending my person.
Finding a single person.
Okay.
Here, let's continue with the reaction to the video, your reaction to the video.
Go ahead.
Oh, gosh.
Like, in terms of the traveling, I think it's so situational.
But like what he's saying about men want a woman who's so innocent so he can show them everything.
I feel like, yeah, they're like an alpha male is going to want that for sure.
But I feel like he underestimates the amount of simps in the world that do want a woman who has a lot of experience.
You know, there are a lot of simps.
There's a lot of simps.
I don't think so.
Generally speaking, though, men want women who are sexually experienced.
I'm not a man, so I wouldn't know.
We actually, there's another tape video on that, which maybe we can watch later.
Old guys saying that they like old women.
They don't like old women.
They just can't get young women.
Okay, I heard.
Your reaction to the video?
Yeah, I think he has a valid point there.
At the same time, I think the stereotype goes the opposite way too.
Like if there's a guy who's traveling a lot and partying a lot or going to yacht week in Croatia and things like that, I'm going to have the same stereotype in my head that he's out partying and not someone that I would want to date seriously.
Yeah, I think the thing is though is that then that brings us a little bit into body count.
I think generally speaking men care far more about females' past promiscuity or current promiscuity than the reverse.
I think women are free to care about it.
I think it just happens to be the case that they care far less.
And there certainly are women who don't want to date a promiscuous partner or a partner who had a history of promiscuity, but it's just something that men typically are more preoccupied than women are.
Sure, but I think that anyone who's looking for something real and stable is going to see that as a red flag on either side.
Can I just get a quick hand raised at the table?
Would you girls prefer a guy who is a virgin?
Raise your hand.
Okay.
Just you?
Just you.
See, are you a?
I'm Christian.
Like, a group Christian.
Are you virgin?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm saving myself for marriage.
Okay.
That's awesome.
Based.
did you have a follow up on the I was going to say and then the guys at the table see like that would be like a very attractive thing If a girl was a virgin, I'd be extremely attracted.
But you guys aren't attracted to a virgin because you girls want someone who's sexually experienced.
So there, therefore, lies the difference.
I mean, you also asked if we preferred it, right?
So it's like, it's not like that.
I'm not talking about one esoteric individual, like what they prefer.
I'm talking about generalities.
Women like a man with experience.
Men prefer women who are inexperienced.
It's a generality.
It's a fact.
Word?
Word.
Reaction to the video?
The thing is, I think it just depends on the situation.
I mean, like, I love to travel, but it depends on what they're doing.
Like, if they're going with a group of friends, just partying, I think I would see that as a red flag.
But again, if they're just going for work or with their family, then I think that's okay.
But it's about perception, right?
It's not about like, because, for example, a woman could be a stripper.
She could do OnlyFans and have a really low body count.
But just because you're engaged in doing that sort of thing, the perception is going to be this person may be sexually loose.
So somebody who travels a lot, what we're thinking is it could very well be the case that you've never hooked up with somebody while you're traveling.
But if you're traveling, we're going to think that's a pretty opportune moment to just have casual sex with somebody and just hook up.
A lot of people, you know, if you're on a dating app, you'll always see people dating.
They never count them in the body count either.
Yeah.
But then I feel like that's where communication comes into play.
That's something you're really concerned about.
That's when you ask details about, oh, who did you travel with?
What was your intent to travel?
They just weren't telling a lot of people.
But I mean, that's still, I would say that's still an opportunity.
That's where communication, like you guys just dismissed that immediately instead of actually considering communication.
No, no, no.
The thing is, though, we just know.
So that's it.
We can take alternate.
That's the sex on my Asia trip.
Yes.
No.
You did.
You don't have to tell me no.
I'm saying no.
Okay.
Okay.
What is a lot of sex?
What is a lot of sex?
What is a lot of sex to you?
I'm going to say you might have had two or three summer lovings, two or three boyfriends.
That might not be a lot to her.
That might not be a lot.
And it was like maybe three, four weeks.
You were on an island together, you know, enjoying the sunsets.
Now, boyfriends is different.
Yeah, I mean like boyfriends.
I don't mean you're having sex with me.
I have boyfriends.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, well, that's a red flag.
No, because I'm a young woman.
That's a new one.
No, no, you don't say no because I'm a guy and I'm telling you it's a red flag.
Okay, no, but I think it's a red most for you.
You can't say like no.
But there's on the opposite side of like, say this is most, this is the rest.
See, like I said before, we're not talking in esoteric generalities and some random guy who randomly, he's like, oh, awesome.
You're in Asia and like had sex with all these guys.
That's awesome.
We're not talking about those guys.
We're talking about generalities.
In general, if you tell a guy that you went to Asia and you had one boyfriend, one at a time, please go ahead.
If you tell a guy that you're in Asia and you had all these boyfriends, he's going to think that is a red flag.
Hippie dick on the beach is a red flag.
Trust me.
Are you not dating when you're traveling?
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm a guy, so it's very different.
True.
Let's continue with the Tate reaction.
Your reaction to the video we watched.
I think it's situational.
I mean, I've traveled for the last probably 10 years, and I can honestly say I've never had a one-night stand with somebody in a city I was traveling in.
I've literally just traveled to do what I was there to do and went home.
Never had a one-night stand ever?
No.
What about like a casual hookup?
No.
All boyfriends.
Yeah, I think you can travel for culture and you can travel for sex.
And the last one is like, no.
And I agree with Andrew.
If you've been to a lot of places, because you are craving for places, it's first of all, where do you have that much money?
I mean, for sure, it's not that easy.
You didn't work hard at Walmart and get all that money to go five countries in a month.
But if you have a normal partner, a good relationship, and you submit yourself to your love, he's going to open the world to you.
And he's going to tell you, okay, baby, let's go here.
Let's go there.
Let's go to the Modibs.
And it's going to be a different experience because it's going to be about you and him discovering things together, not you, you know, discovering things alone or letting guys discover you.
Why can't I discover the world alone?
Why do I have to see it through my man's eyes?
It just depends.
It just depends.
I think like where we're butting heads here is that you're looking at it through your worldview where it's like me, me, me, I want to experience everything and have this amazing life and that's that's awesome.
But when I'm speaking, I'm talking about from a guy's perspective.
And that's where the essential difference is here.
And you're not really...
I just haven't met any men with your perspective before.
They haven't told you that because they're not honest with you.
I'm being honest with you.
This is the first time someone's been honest with you.
I don't agree because I feel like I love it how you can tell a girl what guys think and they'll tell you that they don't agree.
Because you're not all men.
I'm not, but I'm sure you're not.
You are one general man with a thought process.
And I'm just saying, I agree.
I agree, Homath.
Homath agrees.
Homath.
A billion people in this world.
There is, granted, I'm not discrediting what you're saying.
I'm sure there is a vast majority that agrees with what you're saying.
You just said the world.
Let me just quickly untangle that.
How many Muslims are there in the world?
I don't know.
About two billion.
Do you reckon any of them like girls who hold up?
No, but a girl is a bad person.
How many Christians are there in the world?
I don't know.
Maybe like a billion or so.
All of these religious cultures around the world where female chastity is valued at the highest order.
This is specifically Western what you're talking about.
This attitude where you can just go and do whatever you want is specifically Western.
So I'm telling you from the perspective of a Western guy, if you spoke to an Islamic guy, he would go nuts if he heard this stuff because they are actually virgins until marriage, all of them.
Yeah, they would kill you maybe.
Seriously.
Bronx.
Abdul.
So when I talk about generalities, trust me, it's not just my perspective.
This is throughout cross-culturally, throughout history, and all around the world.
Absolutely.
I don't disagree with that part, but there is a small portion of people who are not.
We're not talking about the small portion of people, though.
But I'm saying there's always a flip side to that.
You said to me that I can't speak for men, and I'm telling you that I actually can.
But there's a flip side to everything, is all that I'm saying.
No, but I agree.
We agree because you're saying that there is a small percentage of men who don't care.
And I completely agree with that.
But what I'm saying is the vast majority of them do care.
Here, let's try to bring in Homath here.
Do you have anything for us, Homath?
What you got for us?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So there is a small percentage of men, of course, in the West, mostly, who are not going to care about a capacity.
Oh, we'll marry you and we'll have family with you and everything comes adults.
But it is a really tiny, tiny percentage.
Like, even men who are highly experienced still, you know, want.
Oh, do I have to be?
Is there a...
Oh, a TTS came through.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Continue.
Sorry.
Okay, sorry, sorry.
I can't tell.
There's a delay.
So, yeah, there is going to be some guys who don't care about that.
But if you have, you can't have like every woman has a huge amount of sexual experience and then there's like 1% of guys who don't care.
That's not going to match.
It's going to give you a really hard time finding someone who doesn't care that you're that experienced later in life.
Exactly.
This is why I chose the name.
I take a mathematical perspective to it.
It's just you can't have every girl is living that lifestyle and you all pair up with the five guys who don't care.
Yeah, exactly.
And also, as well, I can tell that you've got a strong personality.
You're going to want a guy who is going to be dominant.
You're going to want a guy who's a stronger personality than you.
You should see that.
That is not going to be the guy that you're talking about.
We should see the menu date.
Is that why it lasts two weeks, though?
Because you get border than this.
No, it's not.
Just because I don't.
There's so many different reasons why you don't want to date someone long term.
I've had like great relationships that last long.
I've had like a year long, two years, three and a half years.
And then I've had like lots of little fun moments in between.
See, I love girls like you, and I could tell if we met in a different country and we wanted a new date, I'd be able to save you.
I'd be able to help you.
Oh, no.
I would.
I would.
No, no.
You know you put a handle on his dress.
He's going to save me.
I could.
See?
He's happy though.
Well, I appreciate that.
Okay.
I've been looking for a man like you all my life.
We'll talk.
I'm gonna get some water.
Maybe your guys' paths could have crossed while you guys were in.
I wish I could have got up.
I wish I could have caught you in Asia.
It would have been so different.
Let me do a couple chats here.
Nick, if you could hide this really quick.
The dog 22, hey, thank you.
Oh, sorry, hold on.
Pause.
Brian, enough with the OF model influencers.
Get some educated girls with real jobs from different parts of the U.S. Wherein is Julia from DC coming back.
We might get her back on.
I was going to say, I'm educated.
So just because someone has an OF or model or influence title or whatever does not mean they're signs for a living and wrapped cars.
Am I part of the into the microphone?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I wrap cars for a living and make signs as well.
So, I mean, and I'm also a model.
Wait, you're literally a model, though.
Okay, so I mean, I guess this is directed at you.
Yeah, no, I know, that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, I work in the industry.
But also, there's a good cross-section of the population here as well.
Like, we've got like fitness girls, we've got like Christian conservatives, someone from Eastern Europe.
Like, yeah, I think it's a good panel.
She is.
Like, how many different nationalities?
Oh, that wasn't even like a ethnicity.
Oh, yeah.
No, she's an Imperial German swan.
Oh, that's right.
You're that.
Hmong, that's right.
Wait, did you...
Hmong?
Hmong.
There's just nothing.
You're not Hmong.
I am.
I thought you were Thai.
My dad's from Thailand.
Oh, okay.
All right, we have Ed Carter, 91.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
There's a saying in Poland: a woman is a man's business card.
Imagine your business card says, see my wife's slash girlfriend's Punani for $5 a month.
I love it.
How much do you guys charge?
What's your subscription?
$12?
$12.
$12.99 or $12?
$12.
Exactly.
Okay, what about you?
I have $15 and a free page.
$15 and the free?
My page is free, yeah.
Is there?
I mean, ex- Dude, do you have like a premium page?
No, I don't.
I see.
All right.
It's just a vanilla.
I have, by the way, Homath, I know you aren't able to say the entire show.
How much longer do you think you got with us?
I mean, I could, are we still talking about the tape clip?
I could comment on that.
See you guys next time.
What's that?
What?
I could comment on the tape clip and see you guys next time.
Does that work for you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you're welcome to stay longer.
I just wasn't sure timeline-wise if you had to.
I mean, I could stick around a little bit.
Yeah.
Before we got too far off the tape clip, I wanted to say, I mean, I don't know if you guys are familiar with my work.
I bet that you're not.
I know it's cartoonish and silly, but I made illustrations of what men are looking for from women and what men are looking for from women, what women are looking for from men.
And what Tate was talking about in that clip is here, I wrote other men.
And it's a really kind of an abstract concept, but it's like women's exposure to experience.
Like, has she been with a funnier guy than me or a hotter guy than me or a taller guy than me?
And the thing about women is you kind of get stuck on your highest setting.
And if you've been with a guy who has a trait that we can't keep up with, then you're going to, there's a chance that you're going to be thinking about that guy forever and we don't want to be in that relationship where we're putting in everything and you still are hooked on a guy from your past.
That kind of, it's not about traveling.
It's not about whether or not you've seen the world.
It's about in what context you've seen the world and who has facilitated that.
You know, have other men been showing you things that we no longer have left to show you so that you're not going to be attached to us.
Like that long-term relationship is built on that attachment.
And if it's all spent by the time you find us, then there isn't anything else to attach to.
Oh, don't sell yourself short like that.
I don't think it's personal to myself.
But it's like a weird thing to think that if your partner experiences anything in the world, it's like taking it away from you.
Like, I want whoever I end up with full-time in the end of all.
I want them to have had as much love, experience, and life as they could have.
I don't want to hold them back from that.
But do you not have insecure?
Well, one thing.
One thing, yeah.
Go ahead, Homath.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Yeah, one thing I've experienced a lot is I just haven't made a ton of money in my life, and I will very often meet girls who I like a lot, and they like me a lot, but they will just say, you can't provide the lifestyle I want.
Then they're not the girl for you.
And that's kind of what I'm talking about there.
Then that means that you need to find someone who matches your values and beliefs and what you want in life.
Just because someone has experienced something with someone else in their past doesn't mean that there was something about that person that didn't align with them, which is hence why they're not together anymore and why that person's now with you.
And there's something in your life that you share with that person, whether it be a thought, a belief, a goal, a passion, whatever it is, and that's why you guys are currently together and you make it work.
Whether that girl or that person has experienced something else with someone else, there's a reason that they're not with that person anymore.
And there's a reason why they're with you because maybe you provide more safety, more security in their life, but someone took them to Dubai.
For me personally, that trip to Dubai means nothing if you can provide me more safety and security in my life for my future.
Sure, but what I'm saying is I've had a lot of women, like, you know, a good handful of women tell me specifically, you know, the lower income is the reason.
Like, I don't feel good about you can't keep up with me financially.
Where are you finding with me?
That is the reality of being a man.
If you have a low income as a man, that is the reality.
Ladies will automatically dismiss you.
And a lot of guys.
I don't dismiss guys for that.
I'm not saying that.
I will say that women nowadays hold men to somewhat of an unrealistic expectation.
And I do think that that is an issue nowadays, that women want a six-foot man that makes six figures and wants to provide for them in safety and security, but then the women have nothing to provide back.
But don't you see.
And on that point, don't you think that if a woman wants six foot tall, six pack abs, six figures, six cylinder engine, and we say we want you to be humble and not have gone and traveled the world and had all of these experiences that give us anxiety?
Don't you think that that's a reasonable exchange?
I think that's reasonable if that's who you're looking for.
Because I don't think I've got to do that.
But I totally value what you want from the world.
And I think that's beautiful.
And I love that for you.
But do I want the same path?
I don't think so.
You know?
It's amazing.
Going back to the topic, I think a woman should see what the man can become.
What's the potential in the man?
Maybe now he's not right there, but he's going to be there.
But man loves getting the woman as a whole, as a perfect woman, and keeping it like that, not waiting for her to change.
It's a good point.
I'm not good at digging a good horse.
I got a question, kind of shifting gears here a little bit.
Going around the table, what percentage of men do you find attractive?
And I know you're married, let's say if you were single.
Oh, what percentage of men do I find attractive?
I feel like that's, I don't even know how to answer that question.
I'm not, like, just say you walked out of LAX of a plane and into a taxi, all of the men that you pass by in everyday life.
What percentage of them do you attract?
Did you go to university or college?
Yeah.
When you were in college, what percentage of the guys in college would you say you found attractive?
Oh physically like maybe 15%, 10 to 15%.
Under 15%?
Okay.
Yeah, roughly.
And then have you ever been on the dating app?
Yeah.
What percentage of the men on the dating apps would you swipe yes on or would you say you found physically attractive?
I would say I'm pretty open-minded in that sense, so I would say like maybe I swipe yes for 60%.
Swipe yes on 60%?
Were you promoting your OF when you were not on it?
When I was on a dating site, I wasn't married or anything.
That's pretty high.
What about you?
But it was 15 in college.
I mean, yeah, I guess.
I would walk around and think like I would, that's not conceptually how I walk around in life.
It's like, I would sleep with you, I would sleep with you, I would sleep with you.
Did we just see Homath's leg?
The grandma.
Is that a cock?
Did we see a cock?
Please tell me you're not.
Are you wearing pants?
I'm relaxed.
Okay, you're welcome.
The work from home attracts me.
I was like, worried if we just saw like a, if that was a cock.
Okay.
No, no, no.
I'm wearing sleep shorts.
Okay, right.
I'm Allie.
Go ahead, you.
Oh, I've been donated $100.
You see these videos of on-street interviews of women saying that if he doesn't make $200,000, we can pull that up.
$500,000 minimum.
She wants nothing to do with him.
The average annual wage in the U.S. is $61,000.
Women are cutting a large swath of good men by having unreal STNDRDS.
Word?
Word standards.
Go ahead.
With what percentage of men you find attractive?
I would say that's right.
That's so hard to answer, but I would probably say more around 60% on dating apps and somewhere below that in real life, because I like getting to know the people.
So it's fun to just go through their little profiles and see what they're into, how they like to present themselves.
Maybe in regular life?
Were you in university or college?
I went to vocational college.
It was all women.
so you said on dating apps 50 to 60 percent of men you find attractive yeah men women everyone on there because i it's pretty high for most women Okay, but I love people.
What about like if you're at a party or something?
What about that?
Yeah.
It depends like attractiveness of like I want to talk to them or not because I find most people attractive.
I find all of you very attractive.
And so what is the percentage of like finding everyone in this room very attractive?
I guess that's my answer.
Keep it vague.
Okay.
Wisdom Andy donated $100.
I never donate, but I feel an impulse to help everyone out.
Homath has a video called Relationship Zones from two months ago.
That's absolutely the most based instructional video on the internet understanding dating.
Watch after.
Yeah, definitely be sure to check that out.
It's a great video.
Thank you, Andy.
That's the standard.
What about you?
I'm thinking like college, back like at my university, probably like 20%.
20%?
Yeah.
What about dating apps?
I only did one dating app for a short time.
I feel like I probably only swiped right on like 5 to 10%.
5 to 10%?
Okay.
What about you?
I went to college at Notre Dame, so it's more like athletic, clean-cut, intelligent man.
So I'd say most of the guys I was attracted to.
If you had to attribute a percentage, what would 50%?
In college, no, in college, maybe like, I don't know, 60 to 80%.
Okay.
And then dating apps now, living in Southern California, maybe like a quarter to a third?
Quarter.
On dating apps?
Yeah.
Or just in real life.
I'm on dating apps right now.
So are you going off looks or personality?
Looks.
Looks?
Yes.
Okay, because I would say about like 10%.
What is it?
In person.
Yeah.
And are you been on any dating apps?
Briefly, just because more of curiosity, but never went on a date from a dating app or anything.
Okay, so 10% of guys.
Yeah, overall, like just in general.
Okay.
What about you?
I would say a very low percentage, like under 5%.
five percent it's yeah it's more of a I need a connection with the person like I need to It's not just a looks thing.
But do you need the looks to be there in order for a connection to develop?
No.
So I've had relationships with people that are overweight.
I've had relationships with people that are.
But if that's the case, wouldn't you find more people physically attractive then if you cared less about looks?
Or am I parsing this incorrectly?
No, I agree.
Yeah, it's like, that doesn't matter to me.
So it's like, that doesn't, that has like no, I don't know, relevance.
Well, it might not matter to you.
I guess it might not matter to you, but you only find 5% of people physically attractive.
Yeah, it's like if I'm just walking around, I'll be like, oh, like once in a blue moon, I'll be like, oh, yeah, that person is attractive.
but it's not like I just walked down the street and I'm just like, yeah, that person in charge, that person in charge.
Like, it's not like that to me.
Because again, it has to be like a...
When is I doing...
I said, if I'm walking around, I'm actually, my eyes gravitate to women more than men.
And I would actually think that woman is when they're attracted and then a man is in public.
I would say people judge, people watch, but I mean like it's not like for an attractiveness reason.
Have you ever been on a dating app?
Never been on a date.
What about you?
Yeah, I love the differences in humans, but as an attractive man, like 1%.
1%?
Yeah, like I would say like, ooh, wow, it would be like 1%.
That's more realistic.
Yeah, really.
But yeah, this is why.
Yes.
Have you ever been on a dating app?
For like one week, just out of curiosity.
But so you only find 1% of men physically attractive.
So I want to bring it to HoMath.
Do you have any art on this?
I mean, there's like hypergamy.
Hypergamy, maybe?
Yeah, Nick, can you go full screen on this really quick?
Wow.
Yeah, this old, the hypergamy map that I've re-depicted over and over again.
It's just when women don't know men, when you're walking around the world, there's very, very few of them that catch your eye.
Can you scoot it up a little bit?
Can you scoot it up?
Oh, yeah, sure.
Maybe center it a little bit if you can.
Yeah, sorry for the technical difficulties.
I got to get better camera equipment there.
good um but in general you know basically can you scoot it up a little more so we can see the bottom There we go.
We got it.
Tell me when it's good.
Is that good?
No, now there's glare.
Oh, man.
I can't.
That's good.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
There's a three-second delay.
That's fine.
That's fine.
But anyway, all of the women are attracted to a very slim section of the men at the top, and they end up having really low-quality relationships with them.
The green lines are the satisfying long-term relationships, and the orange and red are the ones where it's like, well, I would be, you know, I would date him, but he doesn't want to date me.
And I mean, I think that's what you're asking there.
It's like the experience of women using dating apps and walking around in the world.
It's like just a very small number of the guys at the top who get those kind of looks.
Right.
And can you explain the left side of your chart there?
The left one is the way that men see women in the world, is that they're very willing to have relationships directly across with women that they have never met before.
Like a male five walking around like on the subway will look at a female five and go, oh, maybe she's the girl for me, right?
But a female five does not do that with a male five.
It's they're only going to be looking at the top guys if they haven't met them and don't know anything about them yet.
So the dynamics of like you can only know so many men, right?
The dynamics of attraction are heavily weighted towards just the most desirable guys.
Word, word.
And did you have something also like another drawing that's somewhat related to this one?
But you said that there's a bottom portion of men that are invisible.
Yeah.
I just sort of keep this thing around.
It's a little joke that I tell.
Where, and this is, there's a study that confirms this as well.
Like they watched women's brains on a brain scan, and they said that with really unattractive men, really low-value men, that they saw them as not even there.
That they didn't register people in their brains at all.
So I've had this experience myself.
I used to drive for Lyft in Uber, and you know, girls with really good jobs and getting a lot of male attention would get in the car, and they would talk to me like I was, they would talk to each other in the backseat like I was not there.
They would say things that you would not say in front of a stranger.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Okay, cool.
And I think this is your cutoff here.
So any final thoughts?
And we'd be glad to have you back some other time.
But anyway, any final thoughts?
Is there one piece of drawing that you really want to show us?
I think, you know, someone paid to say, you know, to go watch this video.
This will show you everything you need to know.
I've got a 23-minute video on this about this on YouTube called Zones.
And it is, you know, go read the comments.
Everyone says it's been very enlightening for them.
It's just, you know, it's a quick look at what men and women value.
And I'm hoping to use that to sort of fix the problems in the dating world as much as I can.
Rock and roll, man.
Well, hey, thank you for joining us.
Guys, go check out Homath on YouTube, TikTok.
And he's got some really funny videos.
And thank you for joining us.
This was our first time ever having a video-in guest.
So thank you for being here.
We'll iron out the technical difficulties next time, yeah.
Well, thank you for being our guinea pig.
And yeah, we'd love to have you back, man.
Maybe face reveal next time, maybe, maybe.
We'll see.
Bye, man.
Cool, cool.
Well, hey, thanks for tuning in, man.
We'll catch you later.
See ya.
All right.
See ya.
Bye.
Bye.
All right.
Back to.
That's nice.
Chad, how did you.
There's a little technical difficulties.
It wasn't perfect, but Chad, did you like the video in?
Maybe we'll try to do this.
Maybe we'll have someone who is in Australia or some shit who just, it's just too complicated for them to make it here.
We'll have them do a video in sometime.
Yeah.
So I want to, let's see if we're.
Oh, hold on.
Let me have this one go.
Grid one motorsports donated $100.
Women have to qualify as money or hot.
If a man equals not hot and have no money at best friend's zone, the more money you have, the less hot you have to be.
Of course, women will keep hot dudes around for sex, but are broken using other men for money.
Word?
Word.
Thank you, Grid 1.
Appreciate it.
So some of you were very kind and provided some pre-show notes to us.
So I'm going to try to, and there's quite a few, so I'm going to try to get through everything.
Let's see.
I had a question for you.
So, you're married.
How long have you been married?
A year.
Is there any reason you don't, like, on Instagram, you don't post your husband or?
I mean, it's a business account, so most businesses don't post family.
So I just.
Do you have a personal too?
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
I have a my fitness account that I post most of my like fitness content, and then I have my business account that I post.
Do you have to do that thing where you like make yourself like brown and you go on stage?
Brown?
Yeah.
The tan.
Yeah, the tan.
I always find that they're just like so brown.
Almost could get cancer.
It's for muscle, it's to show muscle definition because the stage has really bright lights that would wash you out.
So it shows like actual muscle definition.
Nice.
All right.
Here are my notes here.
We're going to start with Caden.
Caden, I grew up in a small rural farm village and was engaged to my high school sweetheart in college.
He was in the military.
We dramatically broke up and I started seeing.
Do you want to tell us?
You started seeing, this is what you told us: D1 athletes, trappers, sugar daddies, etc.
And now you do OnlyFans, LOL.
LOL.
LOL.
What is a trapper, first of all?
What's that?
What's a trapper?
People who sell drugs.
Okay.
Yeah, drug dealers.
Yeah.
Did you have a, was there a, what's it called?
A totem pole of, like, because you said D1 athletes, trappers, sugar daddies.
What was the.
It started with the D1 athletes, and then I went to the Trappers and then I went to the Sugar Daddies.
Okay.
Back to the Trappers.
Back to the Trappers.
Okay.
How many Trappers did you?
Honestly, not like just a handful.
Yeah.
A couple.
A couple.
Hung around.
D1 athletes.
What do we talk about?
Rowing, football.
What are we talking?
Football, basketball.
There were some pros in there, baseball.
NFL?
No, no.
Wait, yeah, there was an NFL.
There was an MLB.
A couple NFL guys?
Not a couple, just one.
But no, it was like college.
And you said NLB.
NLB.
ML.
That's Major League Baseball.
Baseball.
Okay.
Couple, MLB, or just?
No, just one.
Just one.
Okay.
I have not infiltrated the NBA.
And was this like, you have not infiltrated the NBA?
It's in the works, though, right?
Any in your DNs right now?
Apparently, man.
So you said you were engaged, high school sweetheart.
Yeah.
Why did that end?
Okay, so he actually never proposed.
He bought the ring.
I tried on the wedding band and we ended up ending it.
I was 17.
He was my high school sweetheart.
Got me the promise ring when he went off to basic training.
So I wore that, like an engagement ring on my ring finger on my left hand.
And then I got to college, so that was in our small rural farm village.
And then I went to college where my undergrad class was eight times the size of my hometown.
So it was kind of like a culture shock, more or less.
Like I just realized I was like, oh my god, this isn't the only man in the world.
I'm like actually way more attracted to so many other people and like have way more and just people that I have way more in common with because I was always kind of settling for him like even like I was settling the whole time.
What do you mean how were you settling?
Like we didn't like we got along.
I was fairly attracted to him.
Fairly attracted to him.
The sex was not good.
That's where the attraction was.
Sex was not good.
Why?
You say why?
Why?
How?
I feel like that's been his business out there.
It was too quick.
Too small, too quick, too, you know.
Yeah.
Lots of things.
Yeah, I just, I didn't find myself pleased.
But then like religion we disagreed on and he was in the military and I was like a server and he hated that I made more money than him serving than he did in the military.
He got very angry about that.
He's making more now?
He is?
Yeah.
No.
I mean, actually, I don't know.
He's not married to the girl that was just a friend the entire time we were together.
Oh, he cheated on you too.
Yeah, for sure.
But I didn't know that until way later.
Yeah, so like we just got to the point, like I had tried on the wedding band.
We actually, like, we broke up before he proposed and then tried to get back together a couple years later.
No, a year later or the next year.
And it was just kind of all the same.
Like, I was just not satisfied.
Thought I should probably go find something else.
But like, because I want to be a mom and I want to have the house and the kids and everything, like, I was like, okay, so I found it.
So I should just settle and do that.
But then going to college and meeting tenfold people that I liked so much more than this guy, I was like, okay.
I should probably cut him free.
Did you like the drug dealers more than your military husband?
Yeah, I did.
Fiancé?
Yeah.
Okay, wow.
All right.
Drug dealers are.
Some of them are cool.
I don't know.
It's not about the fact.
It's not about the occupation, you know.
So you said you disagreed on religion.
Was he Christian?
Yes.
And you're an atheist?
I'm agnostic.
Raised in the church.
You said you dramatically broke up.
How did you dramatically break up?
It's because we were like on and off.
That was the dramatic part of it.
It wasn't like anything.
Like when we officially broke up and that was it, he like called me and he was like, are you sleeping with this frat boy that you hang out with?
And I was like, no, I'm not.
And I wasn't.
Like, I was not cheating.
And then he was like, stop the cap.
I was not.
He didn't ask if I was sleeping with the football players in my dorm.
So I would have, you know, maybe told the truth then, maybe.
But.
What?
Anyway.
Okay, good times, good times.
But yeah, so it wasn't like, it was just like a dramatic, like, teary phone call where I was just like, yeah, I just, I'm not feeling it.
I'm like, I'm not sure if I can do it.
Wait, let's hear.
Here, I'm fucking Bartholomew.
That's your ex-boyfriend.
All right.
Wait, you said you're from a small rural farm village?
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of like a southern.
All right.
What's up, babe?
How you doing?
No accent, but hey, hey, what's up?
What do you mean?
I'm just shooting guns because I'm in the military.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
I miss you, babe.
What's up?
Okay, so his best friend who was in the frat.
Are we still role-playing?
No, no, we're not role-playing.
I'm sorry.
This is important.
This was part of the dramatic part.
The best friend said that I was cheating on him with his frat brothers, or just assumed.
He was like, yo, like, Kaden's doing this, like, really, like, shit that you wouldn't approve of.
And so that's when he called me up.
That's a good thing.
And that's when he, hey, babe, what's up?
Wait, you went to school with his best friend.
Best friend.
Yes.
And he saw you doing scandalous shit at a frat party.
He, yeah, deemed it to be scandalous.
No, it was like, it was, I went to a semi-formal with one of his frat brothers.
So I was like a date.
Like, I hung out at their frat a lot because like.
While you were in a relationship with.
With his best friend.
So like I hung around.
It's kind of scandalous.
But like they were like watching out for me is how it kind of felt.
Like his friends were there to watch out for me in college, you know.
So I would like hang around them.
So I went to their semi-formal.
You know, like as a girl that hangs around with frats, like you just find a guy that will take you.
Maybe.
You just find a guy that'll take you.
Dramatically, what's the dramatic part?
That was, it was just, Alex said that you're doing this.
And that was a good time.
We're back to the phone call.
All right.
So, okay, dump me.
Go ahead.
Well, but that, he was like, do you even want to do this anymore?
And I was like, no, not really.
He was like, okay, I need you to mail my key back because I lived with him for a summer.
Yeah.
I was capped out.
I mentally broke up with him long before we actually broke up.
Good times.
Good times.
College.
So, and then question for you.
How soon, and you never, did you cheat on him or no?
Yes.
Yes, I did.
Oh, okay.
She's getting that before.
How much?
Like, it was like a couple guys.
Three guys?
Yeah.
How many?
Three.
Three guys?
Yeah.
And you went until sex?
Yes.
Question.
The day that you broke up with him, did you have sex with another guy?
No.
Like, I was not even when that happened, I was pretty well behaved at that point.
It was like, yeah, the engagement part, like when the ring was bought, that's when I was.
Really quick, I don't want to linger on the OnlyFans stuff so long, but you graduated from university, right?
Yeah.
What did you study in university?
My degree is in organizational psychology and communication.
Is there any reason you didn't want to pursue a career in that versus?
I did.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
And I worked 80 hours a week and I sat at home, worked from home with my little headset, 150 cold calls a day.
I was miserable.
I was not active.
So I told them, like, hey, like, you guys aren't paying me enough to pay my rent, so I'm going to go sell jello shots at the bar down the street.
Made my paycheck in two days.
I see.
I see.
Well, in another note you have here, you say you love talking about dating and relationships because I feel like I have a lot of insight, plus some taboo opinions on monogamy and domestic partnership.
You have a BS in psychology and communication.
feel like it has opened my mind to many forms of non-traditional relationships i don't necessarily have oh wait i don't know Yeah, like I don't.
I missed that part.
Yeah.
I don't necessarily, huh?
Does a BS stand for bullshit?
Bachelor of Science.
Oh, right.
It's a great thing.
So these two college disciplines, psychology and communication, opened your eyes to non-traditional relationships?
Like just the classes that I took, like communication a lot.
And then I took like a human sexuality course.
And I kind of just dove into how people interact with each other.
Okay.
ultimately and but they were they were like pushing non-traditional relationships or like no like i'm like thinking the human sexuality course in particular it was just educational of like how many dips different types of sexualities and partnerships may exist and what the science is behind some of them and things like that so So what are your taboo opinions on monogamy and domestic partnership?
I don't necessarily think monogamy is a must.
I don't think it's natural.
I don't think it's inherent.
I very much separate sex from partnership, relationship.
So I don't think that cheating is a be-all end-all.
I think in society there's a lot of weight on infidelity.
And I think that, you know, of course, like this, I feel like it is taboo.
I did have a sugar daddy one time that was like, you're so fascinating.
Like you're a gorgeous woman that thinks like a man.
Because I was just like, no, I think it's unrealistic to think that your partner is never ever going to cheat on you because they said so because everybody cheats.
It's like, I think a large majority of people cheat.
Well, you're right.
Because you wrote, I think you wrote here, my biggest hot take, cheating is inevitable and unavoidable 90% of the time.
And that's okay.
Hot take.
There it is.
I mean, I disagree.
I think the pursuit of the story.
I mean, maybe it's the men that you're chasing after that are D1 athletes.
What was it?
You make a race.
Sugar daddies, trappers, etc.
Perhaps it's the men that you're pursuing that are more prone to cheating.
But I think a lot of women are chasing after relationships with men that are frankly out of your league.
Not you specifically, but kind of going back to that thing, a lot of women are chasing after the top tier of men.
Those men have a sexual abundance, they have an abundance of options romantically, sexually, et cetera.
They have no incentive to really commit to one woman.
So those are the men who are going to just sleep with a bunch of chicks and they're not going to cheat on you.
They're not going to be a child.
They're not going to be in a monogamous relationship.
What's that?
Then why are they agreeing to a monogamous relationship?
Because the guy wants to know that that child is his and not somebody else's.
So you think they're just demanding monogamy from the woman, right?
While not being monogamous themselves.
So I mean, there are, like, if you actually look at it, like, a lot of really successful guys will be married quite young, and then they would have their success a lot later in life.
So if you look at the statistics, a lot of the time it doesn't, it's not really borne out by the statistics.
But then again, you don't really know what they do on the side.
But if you get guys who are young and successful, I mean like in their 30s, a lot of the time they would be rubbing shoulders with certain crowds and they would have sort of clawed their way to the top early and then they wouldn't really be wanting to settle down.
But a lot of guys who have become very wealthy are already married, already have kids.
Yeah, right.
So your taboo opinion was that you don't think monogamy is the natural order of things.
Yeah, more or less.
I think that sex can be separate from like cheats.
That doesn't mean they hate you.
That doesn't mean that they're bad to you.
That doesn't mean that you have a terrible relationship and shouldn't be together.
That's my hot take.
Oh, right, because I see what you, yeah, you also wrote, staying with someone who has cheated does not make you weak.
It does not mean your relationship is trash.
I have some notes, I have some thoughts on that, but who here agrees with her?
Does anybody agree with that?
You can go first.
Yeah, I'll go first.
I agree, I think they're, yeah, I don't know if you just want to hand her.
More of just a yes or no if you kind of agree that.
I agree.
Okay.
My take is, is that so you said that it does not mean your relationship is trash.
Your relationship may not necessarily be trash, but I would argue your partner is if they cheat on you.
Now, maybe, I don't know if women have a different view on this than me.
My advice to men, if your girl cheats on you, that's a wrap.
The relationship is over.
You're a dead man walking.
If you have any dignity, you walk and you never look back.
So maybe that applies to you, but I certainly wouldn't advise men to ever stay with a girl who cheats on them.
It's over.
It's done.
And I know, I actually do.
Like, as a woman, I feel like it's not that hard not to cheat.
But I think that men cheat far more often because they feel a need to disagree.
Women have more options to cheat.
Women have more ability to cheat.
I guess physically women cheat more, but men emotionally can't hide it or by watching.
Right.
Yeah, fair.
But also, I think what you're saying is true in the sense of, like, if you look at it biologically and like anthropologically, it's proven that like, you know, human beings aren't necessarily meant to be monogamous.
But if you look at the most healthy societies, they're all nuclear family societies.
And then as soon as the nuclear family starts to deteriorate, society starts to deteriorate.
So if we had it our way, we could all be running around and being non-monogamous in these little beach and Thailand, like little hippy-dippy relationships.
But if we want to have healthy societies, it's a man and a woman in a relationship with children raising those children in a two-parent household.
And they're not.
Right, okay, yes.
And you can have that.
I was raised in that family, and there can still be infidelity, though.
Yeah, there can be.
And actually, it's actually probably a lot more common than people think.
A lot of the time when people aren't like, they fall out of love when they get a bit older, 40s and 50s and everything.
And I'm from an Italian background, and this is very common with Italians.
Yeah.
Is that the woman has an attitude of just sort of turning a blind eye?
Yeah.
And it's very common, and then the guy will go out and sort of do what he needs to do as long as he doesn't bring anything home, as long as he doesn't impregnate anybody.
Right.
Tell me, Shelby.
Yeah, Greg $100.
Very funny, the girl who has not had a successful relationship thinks it's normal for cheating to occur.
I do not know man in my circle that would even consider maintaining a relationship with a cheater.
Nothing you have said is healthy.
Make better choices.
Good.
Don't you think that there's something deeper going on if one or the other cheats?
Like, isn't that so I like foster open communication in my relationships.
I say straightforward, if you cheat on me, please just tell me.
Like, let me know, like, it's a safety thing, you know, like sexual health is so important.
Like, I just want to know.
And then I would love to dig deeper into why.
Because if you are cheating on me because you don't respect me, because you are not attracted to me, because you're not happy in our relationship, that's so different than I was just attracted to that person and that had nothing to do with you.
But why would you stay?
Like, why would you continue to be with somebody who doesn't value you or want to value her?
It's just for me.
This is not my values personally, but a lot of the time for a guy, just having sex on the side with a girl isn't necessarily if there's an emotional connection, and if he gives her resources and he gives her his time, and like then that's it.
But I mean, he is giving her his time because he's having sex with her.
But that's where she comes into play in fostering open communication.
Is it, did you do it because you were just sexually attracted to that person and you were able to disconnect the emotions and you don't want to be with that person, but you were just sexually attracted to engage in a sexual act with them?
Or is it because you fell out of love with me, you have no respect for me, and now you just don't want to be with me?
If they say yes to that, then absolutely you're out.
But if it's you just have a sexual attraction to them and you just wanted to experience an experience with them with no emotion attached, then that's different.
It's not a disrespect to you because it's not likely it wasn't.
It's a major disrespect.
How can I despire real life?
To go and see somebody else and be with somebody else.
When you're supposed to be that core piece of, or that part of it.
And that's the thought of monogamy is the one and only way.
Yeah, you've also got a good point in the sense that you believe in monogamy in that sense.
But I think it's just like what you said before.
It's all about communication.
You want to lay down those boundaries at the start and you want to say cheating is absolutely not on.
And then if a guy comes to you, it sounds like with your value structure, and he says, you know, I've got a few things happening.
I'm traveling a lot.
And, you know, if something happens, I won't tell you about it.
And you say, cool, don't tell me about it.
Then that's your value structure.
A lot of the time when people are trying to keep families together in particular, they'll have a little handshake agreement on the side.
Right.
Like, it's better than breaking the family up.
That's what I'm saying.
Why is that okay?
Why is that something that we just accept and move on from instead of, you know, because it's two grown adults making a mutual agreement?
And that's the point where you pick someone who has morals and values that align with yours.
So you would be with someone who doesn't view or doesn't have that thought process.
And that's the difference.
Well, who's to say it's not going to happen again?
Right, but there's a difference.
I would say there's a difference between someone cheating because they're falling out of love or a mutual agreement between two people that understand, like, I know that you and I have an emotional connection.
We have a bigger picture in life, goals, aspirations, things that we want to achieve together, but you're able to have a sexual attraction to somebody else.
But that's what I'm saying.
If there's a mutual agreement, it's not cheating.
Like, if it's talked about before, right?
Like, obviously, we want to build a future together, but if you have a sexual attraction to someone, if you're asking for permission to go and engage in that sexual action, if he lied about it, you guys would be annoyed because it was cheating.
You'd probably be annoyed that he was too much for the pussy to tell you as well.
You lose a bit of respect for him at the same time.
Absolutely.
What were you saying?
I think it's never okay to cheat, but also it's forgiveness.
If you can forgive, that's saying, okay, I forgive you and let's work hard, let's fix what was ruined or why you went to that woman or guy.
This is the main part to forgive.
If you can forgive, if you can't, then let's separate, even though it's horrible.
Let's separate.
And I think you have to establish.
You can't meet everyone in different levels.
At the start of the relationship, you kind of have to establish those boundaries.
Like, if you cheat on me, it's done.
If I had a long-term relationship, obviously it would go without saying.
I would have to tell her, though.
But if you cheat on me, there's just no coming back from that whatsoever.
But, you know, everyone's different in that sense.
And it sounds like to you, that would be something that you'd have to establish from the dot, from the jump.
It depends on.
I don't understand.
Communicate.
It should be established.
I feel like it should just be a given.
Don't cheat on me.
Don't go sleep with other women if I'm trying to have a relationship with you.
I want to relate to sleep with you, not you and whoever else you want to have sex with.
And it should be never the first option story to cheat on.
It would be the first, let's go, let's talk, let's ask for someone to help.
And it's not even an option to cheat.
First, let's communicate, let's sit down.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I agree.
But that's where the, if you commit to a monogamous relationship, that's where the cheating aspect is.
But if you communicate prior and agree to a non-monogamous relationship, then cheating isn't occurring because it's been discussed.
It's just a relationship, you know?
It'll pretty much never work if it's open on the girls' side.
But if you bring, I think it can work if you bring girls into the relationship.
You bring a guy into the relationship, your husband's automatically a cuck.
It's not going to work ever.
Based.
Yeah.
Have you ever been in an open relationship?
No, not like a polyamorous relationship, no.
Oh, okay.
I see.
Okay.
Let's see.
What other.
We have a couple more from you.
Even as an adult content creator, I believe healthy relationships are achievable if you find someone who's emotionally mature enough.
Yeah.
So are you saying that men who would not date a woman who does OnlyFans, for example, they're immature?
No, I wouldn't say that.
Are they emotionally immature?
No, I wouldn't say that either.
I mean, like, you can be emotionally immature and still prefer someone who doesn't do OnlyFans.
What do you guys think?
That's just like a matter of knowing.
Do you think men who wouldn't feel comfortable or wouldn't want to date a girl who does OnlyFans, do you think they're insecure or immature in some way or just maybe sometimes, but I don't think inherently.
Okay.
Sometimes they are, though.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay.
Okay.
I would agree.
All right.
Okay.
Last thing from you.
We have a TikTok of yours to react to.
What?
Yep.
I post like twice a year.
Nick, there is a TikTok tab pulled up.
That's the scared.
Oh my God, what have I posted?
Oh, full screen, full screen before you go over.
My mom's part of me, by the way.
Let me preface.
Absolutely.
Let me.
Yeah, okay.
If there's music playing, just pause.
Is there music on this one?
It's like the voiceover.
Okay, just play it.
I think it's fine.
Go ahead, Nick.
I don't have goals.
I don't have ambition.
I only want to be attractive.
I only want to look good.
I just want to be sexy.
Fuck everything else.
Nothing else matters.
I just want to be pretty.
I don't care.
I don't care about shit.
Do a replay, Nick, on it.
Replay.
Just and pause it and then pause it.
I don't have.
So you say me explaining to my parents that I just want to bartend and live my stupid little life until I get married and become a stay-at-home mom.
Is that kind of, is that what you're going for?
Yeah, I feel like I said that.
Like, I just want to be a mom.
I want to pour my entire life into my kids.
But, I mean, do you think that a guy who is able to support a family on one income is going to want to marry a girl who spent her best years bartending and doing nightlife and living her best life and partying?
Yes, 100%.
You think so?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm in that situation, Chip, for a reason.
He, you know, that's, we want the same thing ultimately, and he can make me a stay-at-home mom.
If you could lay it out on the table for us, some of the things that you look for in a man.
When you think about who's going to be the one who gives you his seed and you become a mother.
Sorry to put it so vulgarly.
Lay out for me some of the things that you'd think that are essentially it is person by person.
I don't like I don't have a type.
I don't have like okay let me do it for you then.
Does he have to earn over 60K per year?
He for me to get what I ultimately want they would have to be able to provide an entire household worth of income.
So you're you're work.
Yeah, cool.
So let's say that's probably like 120K.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Does he have to be in shape?
Can he be fat?
Could be fluffy.
I'm fluffy.
Fluffy or can he be fat?
No, I'm not fluffy.
Does he have to?
Because you've been rocking with those football players and stuff.
The bar's high.
Does he have to be in good shape?
No, it does not have to be in good shape.
Okay, cool.
Can he be married?
Well, no.
Previously or currently?
I was going to say previously?
Currently?
Oh, you think there aren't girls out there who are getting locked up?
No, I was just trying to turn off.
No, definitely.
No, I would not like to be a third person.
He can't be married?
No.
Yeah, okay.
What's the age range?
What's the maximum and minimum?
Oh, gosh.
Minimum, like probably like 27.
Maximum, for me as a 24-year-old, probably, oh, gosh, like 35, because I want them to raise the kids with me.
I want them, you know, age has to be kind of close.
What, does he have to be tall, over six foot?
No.
No?
No.
Can he be like 55?
I would prefer, okay, in like a reproduction standpoint, I would like him to be tall and handsome and, you know, not necessarily fit.
All right, so we want a handsome guy who's under 35 years old and who makes over $150K a year and can support you financially.
Yeah.
We're looking at a pretty rare specimen here.
Yeah, fair enough.
And here I am with no successful relationships as was.
No, no, no.
I'm not trying to highlight it to you too much, but it's just that the expectation versus reality.
And this is where I think that a lot of girls don't think about this sort of stuff when you make certain decisions and when you think about what you really want in life.
Because if what you really want in life is to be a mother, then and if that's the expectation you have for a guy and some of the guys that you've been with being high-level athletes and everything, that sets the bar high for you.
Because next time when you're with Kevin from IT and you're thinking about Jermichael.
But that's like, that's where sex and partnership is different to me.
Because yeah, I was having sex with those high-tier people, you know, that are major and whatever.
I've just described you as another high-tier person.
Well, yeah, okay, but I mean, like, the people that you say my partner would compare themselves to.
Jermichael the quarterback.
Yeah, like, that was sex.
I would never date the football players that I was sleeping with anyway.
So there's a thing called being alpha widowed.
I think it's shout outs to Rolo Tomasi for that one.
And what it means is that once a girl has had a certain standard of men, whether it be sexual partner or a relationship, it's burned into her brain.
So when Kevin from IT is like having boring missionary sex with you, you're thinking about Jermichael, who had your face in the pillow.
Right.
And yeah, so that's burned into your brain.
So you think like subconsciously, I would never allow myself to be with someone that doesn't meet me.
No, it's just going to spell disaster for your future relationship.
You're going to present him for that.
And this is why when I say like, this ties back to us not wanting girls to travel and stuff so much, is because when you have those certain life experiences that you guys call it, then it affects your relationships down the line.
You might say, oh, but I want it, why can't I have those life experiences?
There's trade-offs in life that you have to make.
And some of those trade-offs is Jermichael, the quarterback.
I think it's also like a sense of awareness too, right?
I think nowadays people are a little bit more superficial, a little bit less self-aware.
And so if we describe that man who makes six figures and is six foot tall and all that, you have to be a partner that that person wants, right?
And if you lack the self-awareness to realize like, what are you bringing to the table that's going to attract and keep that partner, that's where I think a lot of people will kind of shoot themselves in the foot, so to speak, dating wise, because they don't recognize what the opposite sex really wants or values.
Well, to kind of add on to your thing with the whole alpha widow thing, I think where women typically get into trouble is once you've been with, and that could be sexually or could even if you're able to secure a relationship, typically it's not going to be a long-term committed relationship, but maybe you'll be able to snag a guy for a friends with benefits or something.
Once you've been with a certain tier of guy, certainly sexually, you're going to kind of compare all your future partners to that guy.
And it might be just sexually.
It could also just be if he's a certain level of physical attractiveness, maybe his status, maybe it's his personality.
It could be any metric.
Once you've been with a certain tier of guy, it's really hard to start to go and date a normal guy.
Because here's the thing, when it comes to securing sex, women can secure sex with men that are out of their league.
That's easy.
Very easily.
And that's where women will get in trouble because you will think, though, if I'm able to sleep with this man, that's the kind of guy that I deserve for a relationship.
But men will sleep with women that they have absolutely zero intention of ever being in a relationship with.
So women will hook up with like really hot dudes thinking that's who I deserve for a relationship.
You'll never get commitment from that tier of guy.
You're going to start looking at the guys who are actually on your level, who are your looks equivalents, socioeconomic equivalents, etc.
You will start viewing them as settling or even below you.
You're not going to be satisfied in the relationship.
You're going to be resentful.
The big difference I would say, what, you disagree?
Hold on, let me finish my point and then you can come in.
So typically, I think for a girl to sleep with a guy, he typically has to at least be physically attractive enough for her to be in a relationship with him.
The reverse isn't really the case, though.
Men will sleep with women of a physical attractiveness level that they would never be in a relationship with.
But for a girl, as long, like for you to sleep with him, typically you'll make exceptions.
For example, let's say you don't do one-night stands.
You might do a one-night stand with a guy who's really, really fucking attractive.
Whereas men will do the reverse.
We'll have a one-night stand with a girl who's that's much less.
So it's kind of this reversal.
We have to, you know.
Yeah, so you had something?
Just a small tidbit, but to me, it almost feels like settling to want your partner to have never experienced anything out of fear of not being adequate enough to meet their experiences.
Well, I think it's a super valid concern for men because as a normal dude, like the amount of sexual opportunity that women get is fucking insane.
Like an average girl has the equivalent sexual optionality, the equivalent sexual pull as a male celebrity, talking a professional athlete, rock star, musician, etc.
Any single girl here at this table, if you were so inclined, could fuck multiple new guys a day.
That equivalent in men is reserved for the top tier, less than 1% of men.
Less than 1% of men can do that, whereas more than 50% of women could do that.
I don't think that's what women necessarily want, but the reality is, is that Drake is fucking regular chicks.
He'll fuck a girl who has 100, or excuse me, who has 1,000 followers on Instagram, who's relatively attractive.
The reverse really isn't happening.
You don't have high status, super, and I mean, there's a differential here because men aren't really drawn to women with status, but you'll have women who will move in circles with like hyper successful men, really attractive men, but you're never going to lock those men down for commitment.
So then you, it's like once you get with a top G, you're going to look at the average dude.
You may be an average chick.
You manage to fuck a top G once, whatever.
You're going to look at the average dude and be like, eh.
And the laundry list just grows longer and longer as well.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I just don't agree.
That's fine.
Yeah.
I think it's really focused around sex, at least the way you're putting it.
Not even.
I mean, it could also just be like what, if you're fucking with a celebrity, he might be flying you out.
He might be, you might go to his million dollar house, apartment.
Yeah, it's like sex, money is like always the talking points you hear from this like man versus woman thing.
Like there's so much more.
Okay, status.
Sure, let's talk status too.
No, it's not status.
Like what do you offer outside of like just like money and looks and all this stuff?
Like who are we?
Like that's what I think like about like all this cheating stuff.
It's like, oh, they might find like a sexier woman than me.
It's like, but like I'm me.
And so like I might want to be with someone that wouldn't want to be with me.
So if you're like willing to hurt me to like fuck someone else, then like this wasn't working anyway.
But what what so what specifically did I say though that you disagree with?
I disagree with like I feel like a lot of the points you're making right now like revolve so much around like status, money, like looks.
And I feel like there's much more about people.
I really love people.
I mean you are so interested in personality.
Oh, thank you.
You are so unique.
I wish you could go from where you are to a better place.
I feel like you and I share similar values.
You look deeper into people and you value more than people.
But like this talk is fine and everything, but at the end of the day, it's a dating podcast.
And we look at it from a practical perspective.
Well, I'd hope that we feel the way out.
It's like a social experiment.
It's a social experiment that Grind's been running, if I can say so.
No, it's harder to identify.
Where we have a practical conversation about the actual facts about dating.
And this is the thing why a lot of men watch podcasts like this, is because they're looking for practical advice.
And practical advice is not, yeah, but you'll find your person one day because we can't live in fantasy world like that.
No, no, hold on a second.
If I go through my life in my 20s and I say, I don't want to work.
I just want to sort of go around and just play games and smoke weed and I'll find my person.
My person, I can't do that because in the real world, in the practical reality, that will be so glaringly obvious to me that I have no options with women.
And I've been in that position before, and you can't avoid that.
But unfortunately, girls and guys communicate a bit differently.
If Brian started doing that tomorrow, I'd be like, Brian, sort your shit out.
Like, why aren't you working anymore?
Girls will say to each other, Yeah, you go, girl.
You do your thing.
You go and you know, just be happy in you and love and hippy-dippy stuff.
And unfortunately, when you guys get confronted with reality sometimes, it's a little bit harder to swallow.
Can I just say the base Christian conservative wanted to say something?
Yeah, I just think that, like, so the reason why I'm a virgin is because I feel like I don't want to compare somebody, I don't want to compare my husband to somebody else, like sex-wise.
Like, I don't want to see that image in them.
So, like, seeing that, like, the whole cheating thing, like, if I'm with a virgin, I don't have to worry about that.
I don't have to worry about cheating because they're not comparing me, comparing the way that we have sex to somebody else.
And I think that's just a very common thing now: just sex, sex, sex.
Marriage, sex is like 2% in marriage.
You got to worry about personality, the way a person treats you.
Not one third $969 donated $100.
This chick thinking she's going to land a unicorn with what she has to offer.
Not sure how she can ask/slash expect so much when what is she offering?
Other than a lot of sexual experience, I've got some ocean front property in Iowa to sell her.
It might be.
But that's the thing, like, so focused on sex.
You don't know anything about me, what I offer.
The thing is, males, you have to, we're looking at this from a practical perspective, and this is something that's very important to men.
And I know you think you can do whatever you want, whenever you want, all the time, but men, we actually look at these things and we value them.
So, you might not value it.
But if you ever want to have a long-term relationship that's meaningful, and if you want a man that's worth his salt to look twice at you, you have to take these things in mind.
Here's the thing: OnlyFans has only been around for what, maybe five years?
We have no idea what the repercussions are going to be later on in life.
I know you have this thought that you're going to potentially find somebody that can make you happy or whatever, but in reality, you don't know what the future holds.
And you don't know what your children are going to think or what your family's going to think or anything.
And that's the thing, like, there's literally no case studies on if people that are doing OnlyFans consistently that don't have a partner that can ever find a partner or find something.
I mean, I think the, I mean, it's, it's, it's the sorry guys, I had the last time I trained.
Sorry, I mean, it's it's self-evident.
Uh, men don't want to date women who are whores.
Yeah.
But just because you have an OnlyFans doesn't mean you're a whore.
I mean, you are.
I'm sorry, because there are people with OnlyFans that don't show up.
Here, let me let me revise.
Let me, hold on, let me just revise my statement then.
Since you don't find my statement satisfactory, men don't want to date sex workers.
Okay, that's generally speaking.
Most men, if you were to ask most men, they don't want to be.
What's that?
What is so wrong with sex?
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
Sex is wonderful.
Sex is wonderful.
It has to be under these guidelines, under this party.
There's all kinds.
You're the one who says you can't hold the guy down for longer than two weeks because you get bored.
So clearly, like.
But what I'm trying to say is there's clearly you, you even admitted yourself, you said earlier on the show you're very picky.
That must mean that a guy has to meet XYZ criteria.
It happens to be the case for us and for most men.
Men are also allowed to have standards.
And I would argue one of those standards is we don't want to date women who have.
Because when you talk about your standards, it's so generalized.
There's a majority of the people who are going to be able to do that.
Can you kind of continue?
Listen, your reaction to our standards, can you blame guys for not wanting to tell you?
To tell me?
Can you blame guys for not telling you their standards when you react like this?
Oh, I don't think I'm reacting that crazy, honestly.
You have denied reality time and time again when I've been telling you reality.
And then every time I totally.
You see me?
I'm reacting.
I'm getting real heated in here.
Well, I mean, unfortunately, it's true.
And like, you're going to go to these passive increases.
Are you surprised that the girl that wants to run away into the forest is not acknowledging reality?
Like, is that surprising?
Like, no offense.
No, no, no.
I think it's just like when I say my opinions, I feel like I have more space for yours.
And I'm like, I can hold mine and you can hold yours.
And I feel a lot on your side of the coin that it's more like you're doing something wrong.
You shouldn't be doing this.
So it's like, well, we all are our own people doing our own things in life.
So that's where it gets to be like a, hey.
Honestly, I don't give a fuck if you do porn, to be honest.
It's just like when we're having a live streamed dating discussion about relationship, like, yes, the reality is, like, if you are engaged in these sort of things, it's probably going to limit your pool of potential partners.
I mean, that's just the reality.
For sure.
Can you see your point earlier?
That's not an opinion, by the way.
That's just, it's fact.
In the same way, I can look up into the sky and tell you it's blue.
I don't need a study to tell you that the sky is blue.
Most men don't want to date sex workers.
Like, it is what it is.
In the same way that most women don't want to date men who are shorter than them.
We don't need a study.
We could do a study.
Why is it that you're not going to be able to have sex online?
Why can't you just go have sex with people?
Like, why does it need to be online and in front of one?
Okay, but let's say this is one of the things that I think that especially feminism has done to a lot of generations of women that's really rubbing off in the modern day as well is that there's just zero accountability.
Like you're in your mind.
Raven DT donate to yourself.
Yo, what's up, Raven?
Thank you, brother.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I would like to bet half of my net worth in addition to having to possibly pay ransom to see my children on buying the floor model that's been test driven by hundreds of men and has over 200,000 miles.
It's just that it's just, what's that?
It just sounds like test-driven over 20 miles.
Like, what a weird way to think about it.
Wait, are you talking about OnlyFans or are you talking about body count?
What do you mean when it comes to the driver?
He sounds like body count.
so he's like test driven it's like i mean it's body count's pretty important i'd say It's just like a gross way to talk about human beings.
Test-driven.
200 miles on them.
No, but why is it gross to care about body count?
Are you saying what he said is gross?
Yeah, what he said is gross.
Okay.
What he said is gross.
Well, I think he's kind of using an analogy.
Yeah, it's a gross one.
Otherwise, he's going to say, you fuck too many people.
Well.
Back to.
Sorry, just to kind of switch a little bit back to your point of not having, because OFS is so new, there's no statistics.
Make it quick, please, because we've talked enough about the issues.
But it's like sex work has been around for hundreds of thousands of years.
It's not online.
And not online.
Not these small things.
But what are you trying to say?
What do you mean?
Like, the corn industry has been online since online was a thing.
So it's like, where are those workers now?
For all human history, men have not wanted to wife up women who are involved in sex work.
No, no, no, no.
Someone's going to be a little bit more than he's just saying statistics by it.
Like there probably are some statistics somewhere because sex work's not a new thing.
So like when the internet came out, there was corn stars on the internet.
But porn is that probably have husbands and children now because they're not mainstream anymore.
But porn is not personal.
Porn is you're going on a website and you're clicking on a random video.
OF is you're paying a subscription to a specific person and talking to them and asking them for specific things and asking them for it's way so they go and they go to the website and click a specific category.
So it's like because they subscribe to me because I'm a redhead doesn't mean that their corn category that they select is redhead.
Can they get rid of the porn?
They interact with you.
They don't interact with the porn store.
I don't interact with every single person.
Okay, okay, cool.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Really quick, one more thing with you.
Oh, it was the TikTok, right?
We were reacting to the TikTok, and so I said, like, but do you think that a guy who is able to support a family on one income is going to want to marry a girl who spent her I forgot.
Can we pull up the TikTok really quick?
Just like that.
You know, TikTok said, like, her telling her parents that she just wants to live off and be a bartender until somebody wants her to be aware of her.
Yeah, me explaining to my parents that I just want to bartend and live my stupid life, little life until I get married and become a stay-at-home mom.
Yeah.
Wait, did you say that your current guy that you're dating, he wants to do that with you?
Yeah.
Like that.
But why is it a situation?
It's a predicament, right?
But he says he wants to, I think he's selling you the dream to keep you.
Which is like it's like I said, a predicament because I found that standard.
Like, I found what I'd be looking for in everybody else.
So I'm terrified to leave because I'll be looking for that standard that I already have.
So do you not want to do 50-50?
You don't want to equally contribute to the household income?
Because you said stay-at-home moms.
Right.
Well, that I think 50-50 is.
Like, you mean 50-50 financially?
Yeah.
I do not want that because that means I would not be able to give everything to my kids that I want to give them.
Okay, that's fair.
So like, I think that maintaining a household is one responsibility and financial, like paying the bills is a whole other responsibility.
That's 50-50 in itself in a different kind of way to me.
Sure.
Yeah, when I'm talking 50-50, I typically referencing like financial contribution to the household.
The situation shift, he makes more than enough to cover everything financially.
He's a high earner?
Yes.
Okay.
Why is it a situationship still?
That's his choice, ultimately.
It's my choice of the money.
Is he seeing other women?
Is he seeing other women?
No.
No.
Like, I mean, sexually, no, but like, I don't know.
I don't know what he's.
He's a flirt.
Like, yeah, of course he's going out and sounds like he's fucking other chicks.
Quite possible, but lucky for him.
I'm not asking.
Like, you know, it's he has the perfect situation for sure.
I don't.
So I know.
It's like, yeah, yeah, that's how it is.
But yeah, I mean, oh my God, I'm just a girl.
I appreciate the honesty.
Yeah, I just think for me, at least, like, because you are kind of looking for a guy to fall into his traditional gender roles of being the provider, right?
And I just think, like, not to bring it back here, but again, like, if you want to, like, live your hot girl summer, do the bartending thing or whatever, live your best life.
Typically, like, we translate that to you just want to sleep around, basically.
Like, I don't.
Oh.
See, I is that commensurate with what the guy who is prepared to offer you Being a stay-at-home mom, if he can financially provide that, is that what the guy wants?
Does he want to wife up a girl who has that background?
Does he want to be the sole breadwinner for that type of person?
He can find somebody, but I couldn't easily quit OnlyFans.
Well, you can quit OnlyFans, but there's like photos of you online, Sing D.
Yeah.
Right?
Are there video and photos of you online Sing D?
Yes.
Sing the D, Sing the D.
Yes, there are.
So why is the D. Why would he choose you versus somebody who hasn't done all of those things?
Was there P in the V. Well, maybe that's why I am.
Has there been P in the V photos?
Are there P in the V?
There's P in the V photos.
There's S in the D photos.
You know, I was going to say, it's free for a reason.
I keep them a different way, you know.
Like.vip.
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to go ahead and convince her to make a answer in the middle.
Did you put all the OnlyFans girls in a row?
Send them to me.
Yeah, that's silly.
Anya, right?
Anya.
You say modern dating is terrible.
Unfaithful people, girls and guys playing each other.
Also, sleeping around is so common.
It shouldn't be.
Your thoughts.
I mean, going back to what I was saying about just like sex, I mean, like, I'm again comparing people to your partner.
It's just, it's so sad to me.
And it's like, I mean, because I grew up Christian and my parents, they got baptized in the church and they met in the church and they didn't have sex before marriage.
And I gotta say, my parents are probably the best example of a marriage I can say.
Like, I see, they never argue.
They're so respectful for each other.
And I'm like, that's the example I want to live.
And I think most people should just see that and be like, dang, like, if you want to be in a serious relationship and if you want a successful marriage, I think even just living by the Bible, which I'm a Christian, I mean, obviously not everyone is religious, but for me, living by the Bible is probably the best example and it will lead you to a better marriage.
I mean, it's statistically proven.
Christianity, people who are Christian have better marriages and less divorce rates.
Yep.
Can I ask how that's measured?
What do you mean?
Like, they have people who have better marriages.
Because I know the longevity of the marriages is longevity.
Like, that's how it's being measured.
Yeah, I mean.
Because longevity and happiness are two different things.
Well, yeah.
You can't measure happiness.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
Yeah.
You made the point of hacking.
Lord, have mercy.
And then we said, we must stay focused, brothers.
We must measure.
Stay focused.
Oh, here, let me read this while it's up.
Yo, did you have more, by the way?
Okay.
Yo, grid one.
Okay, let's give the three FOs a break for a second.
Quick question for the panel.
If the man you were seeing wanted to move to a small rural town, live frugally, maybe buy a mini farm, what would your reaction be?
We'll go around the table, I guess, really quick on this.
You down?
I'm so down.
Yeah, it's, I think we're going to be able to do that.
Should grid one motorsports shoot you a DM?
Yeah, hit me up.
Okay, grid one.
Is that what you're offering?
By the way, fuck looks.
Go to a frugal, small mini farm.
And raise animals and plants together.
Yeah.
Hey.
Okay.
How do you feel with like toiling in the fields?
Would you toil in the fields?
I think you would be a good toiler.
Would you toil?
What is the term?
Toil.
To toil in the fields.
Do you toil?
Are you a toiler?
Toil means workout.
Toil.
Toil in the film.
Do you just keep saying the words?
Toil.
I know.
I'm like, right, right.
It's in my national anthem.
Do you toil?
Would you toil?
If Grid wants...
Please help me.
If grid one motorsports, grid one motorsports shot you DM and he was like listen I will give you this life but you're gonna just be like milking cows all day oh you probably have some never mind practice you got some practice I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Sean.
That's nothing.
You don't normally milk a cow with your mouth, but that's illegal.
Was I doing a mouth just like that?
I mean, I'm illegal.
I guess you both were.
Well, I was the best.
By the way, Grid One Motorsports, he once saved me.
We were on his racetrack.
He has a racer.
That was like, they once gave me a million dollars.
This wasn't her friends in the beginning of the chat.
No, he saved me.
No, Grid One Motorsports, we were like racing, right?
And it was like, it wasn't like exotic cars.
We were doing like more the, what's it called?
Grid one motor.
It was the like global time attack cards like a Miata Let me listen.
It was like, you know, we were like Vrooming, right?
And I was like going around the bend and I was like, oh, you fucking noob.
And he, and like, but he caught me, right?
And then I fucking spun out.
Boom, crashed into the wall.
The fucking car lights on fire.
And he fucking jumps out and he pulls me out of the car.
And he's like, Brian, I saved your life.
Oh, my God.
So he will protect you.
That is so hot, and I believe that.
What racetrack race?
Wow.
His racetrack.
Oh, yeah.
It's like hornets.
I'm a damn body.
I've already been told I need saving, so excited ideas.
I want to come to you racing.
We have a chat here from Hector Rodriguez.
She didn't.
She opened her legs for a whole football team.
No.
From Hector Rodriguez.
I think this might be directed at you.
For sure.
Was it the whole football team?
Confirm or deny.
Deny.
Definitely not.
Whole baseball team?
Or wait.
Wait.
It wasn't for the whole football team.
Wait.
Was it a quarter?
No, much less.
It was a select few.
A select few.
All right.
Rock and roll.
Cam H.
The select team.
My girlfriend is a dancer plus instant model.
And I'm highly educated, professional.
16-year education, post-high school, 800K annual salary.
10-plus year age gap.
I knew from beginning thinking about finding more traditional female versus asking her to be with me slash stopping thoughts.
So he is dating a dancer, which I assume means stripper plus instant model.
This guy's making fucking bank 800K.
Congrats, dude.
That's insane.
You're 10 years her senior.
My dude, you make 800K.
Can you give us some more details about like are you in the U.S.?
First off, I'm assuming you are.
How tall are you?
Are you a Giga Chad?
Are you good looking?
Are you in good shape?
To find a more traditional woman or if you should stay with the women's business.
But I want some more details.
I want some more details.
In any case, bro, you're a very high earner.
You can get, you don't need a date, no offense.
I mean, I would say if he's already with her and he knew from the beginning, then that wasn't a deterring factor for him to be with her regardless of his status.
So that means he likes her as a person and whether they should proceed forward with their life and if he should be with her and stop what she's doing.
He should break up.
He should break up.
Means that he needs to know if her goals align with his.
Why is she?
Wait, how long have you been dating her too?
Because I mean, bro, you make a lot of money.
You could probably, I don't know how long you've been dating.
He says girlfriend is a dancer.
My dude, you're a very high earner.
You don't need to date a lot.
16-year education sounds like it's some sort of STEM field or something like that.
And then once he got maybe sounds like he was suck it in a little bit.
I'm also wondering what he did at the dance club.
I mean, why did he go there?
Oh, you just had a bowl of starting around.
He doesn't say he met her there.
No.
So, Cam, can you tell us?
Let's see.
Oh, unfortunately, he sent this like 30 minutes ago, so I don't know if he's still in the chat.
But where did you meet her?
What else?
How long do you have?
Some stats on you.
How long have you guys been together?
But I think you have aligning goals and values.
Well, then that's the thing.
His values might have changed.
Has anybody here stripped?
Anybody danced just you?
In the beginning, he had some type of feeling towards it.
And then maybe as he was making more money or progressing in his career, he was like, oh, maybe this isn't really what I want.
So that's why I think what's happening.
Yeah, oh, no, absolutely.
People's ideologies and thoughts can change on the situation.
It's how you feel in that moment, whether you should progress forward or not.
Yeah.
I have a question for you, Anya.
It sounded like you're about to say something.
Oh, okay.
So, you know, your standard is you're a conservative Christian.
You're waiting until marriage.
My question for you is: of your female friends who maybe aren't religious or conservative or Christian, or maybe who are, do you know any girls who are like maybe you're friends with who have high body counts?
Who are promiscuous?
I have one friend, but I wouldn't consider it a really high body count, but she does like post herself seductively on the internet and do things like that.
But most of my friends are conservative Christian.
Okay, got it.
Well, I want to open this up to the whole panel.
So, not you, but of your female friends, if you maybe can think of one or a couple.
Oh, here, let me 5'11.
Yeah, I thought he was a, I figured he'd be a doctor.
Sub-specialist physician.
I think I'm a 7 out of 10.
She's 12-10 to me.
Two-month relationship.
She's a 12-10.
You're not in the middle of the day.
Date people you like No way If you're questioning it, that's your answer.
That's true.
Wait, what?
If you keep questioning whether or not he wants to be with her, if he has to ask a panel of strangers whether he should be with someone or not, then he shouldn't be with that person.
Yeah.
Regardless of her profession or anything.
A sub-specialist physician could be a very, very hardworking guy.
I can't imagine he'd get out too much.
And then the excitement of a girl like that, I reckon, can be so alluring that it's probably captured his imagination.
That's fair.
You're allowed to have standards, dude.
You have a very high-status job.
You need a lot of money.
You can add a lot of support.
Donate these $1,000.
Yeah, thank you, Goodman.
Even if I were single and I am happily married 17 years, there is only so much charity in my heart.
I was curious how these high-maintenance girls would view living simply.
That's what I mean.
That's very assumptuous.
They would view living simply.
So now when someone does OnlyFans, they become high-maintenance?
No, because they agree that they would go live in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He said, I was ordering a few high-maintenance girls, but that was.
He's saying you guys wouldn't be willing to live simply, but you guys very much so.
Yo, Cam H, one last thing, Cam H. How did you meet her?
That's the other thing I was curious about.
How did you meet her?
Because at the club, did you meet on a dating app?
Did you meet at the hospital?
Did she break her ankle on a pole or something?
I don't know.
She felt you both.
The sex and the physical attraction can be so overpowering sometimes.
The guys just get lost.
They get black.
Are there no red flags?
Like, I just, I've met strippers.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Totally.
You know strippers.
Yeah.
They be crazy, son.
It's a mixed bag over there in the clubs.
It takes a personality, you know?
I don't.
So, I feel you.
I wonder, is there like what it like on the totem pole?
Like you have like Street Walker and then you have P Star and then you have OnlyFans Girl and then you have Stripper and then you have like Feet Pick Sender.
Like where, like, do strippers look down on porn stars and do porn stars look down on OnlyFans girls and do sex workers, like hose, literal hoes, look down on porn stars.
I think there's, I don't know, some strippers look down on OnlyFans girls because they're like, I'm just dancing.
And then some OnlyFans girls look down on strippers because they're like, well, you're in person, letting people touch you.
But a smart one would have both, you know?
That's the helleraki.
If you're all my god, there really is porn.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
You're in the industry.
You're in the industry.
Like, we're in the Cam H. Also, Cam, send me a DM on Instagram out, whatever.
Send me a DM on Instagram, Cam.
Let's see, okay, we- Oh, let's bring it to you- Oh, yeah.
So of your female friends, do you know any girls who have really high body counts?
And if so, how high?
Yes, but I wouldn't say that I know what the number is.
Range?
Range?
Maybe like 15.
That's high.
That's not that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's not ideal.
I'm sorry, were you expecting me to say 300?
Well, that's what I'm, I mean, like, most of my most of my friends are very conservative, married children, families.
I don't really have.
Sure.
What about you?
What about you?
I know a couple triple digits.
Yeah.
A couple triple-digit ladies.
A couple triple-digit ladies.
Body count.
Crazy.
Triple-digit.
Yeah.
That's a lot of dedicated time.
Yeah.
You know, you have to be like, those are the girls you're talking about.
They're like, love sex.
All they want is sex.
That's them.
I think you're very sexually motivated people.
What about you?
Yeah.
Like.
Maybe some girls in Call of Friends or something.
Well, just currently.
Yeah.
Like, I think I have a friend with like an 80 body count.
80?
Yeah.
80.
80.
Oh, my God.
80.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, my God.
I've been living in the Valley too long.
What about you?
Question.
Oh, any friends of yours that you know that, like, you know, they have high body counts?
Maybe they told you.
If so, what is it?
Probably not.
No.
There's girls in our industry and like bikini pros and people in the fitness industry that do OnlyFans.
Question: Are you guys natty?
You guys natty?
I'm on HRT, so no.
Are you natty?
Yes.
It's impressive.
Nice.
I have a question.
Okay.
So I've heard like if a guy either say it, if you're S-ing the D and you consume the product of S-ing the D, that's like there's minimal amounts of protein in it.
Testosterone's in there, too.
I've also heard with sex too, if a guy blasts inside, it actually boosts women's mood because the seed.
So you're promoting sex because you want people to be in good shape.
Wait, what?
I don't have.
Sex is fine.
I'm just curious.
As bodybuilders, do you want to consume extra?
Do you want that extra nut?
I don't track it in my fitness pal if you're asking.
Do you know what I mean?
It's not incorporated in my macronutrients for the day.
Because I feel like it would help with the bodybuilding if you're just letting dudes blast.
You know what I mean?
Sorry, is that too graphic?
Is that too graphic?
That's too graphic.
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
It's okay.
I'm sorry.
I appreciate where your heads are, Brian.
You know, trying to help us with our bodybuilding.
Yeah, like, because I'm an expert.
Yeah, so we're going to go with an expert.
Okay, so let's see.
How did I fucking get there?
Oh, body count.
I don't really have any friends with high body counts.
No.
Oh, we asked you, what about you?
No, we say in Hungary that you get to know a bird by their feather and the person by their friends.
So, no.
Words.
Okay.
Good times, good times.
We have Mars.
Are you going off the list?
Yeah, this is my list now.
You said something about open dating.
You wanted to talk about open dating.
What do you mean by that?
I think I kind of explained it more in my we already talk about that?
Kind of?
What?
Did you?
Really?
Kind of just like the individualism.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'll went over that.
You also said autonomy in relationships.
I don't know if you went over that in your further notes.
When you say autonomy in relationships, what do you mean?
Two separate people, like with their own lives that come together for a greater good, whether it's family or building a life together.
And yeah, not like you control each other in the way of what you expect from your partner and what feels right to you and what feels right to them.
And you give and take, because that's what a good relationship's about.
But I don't think controlling if your girlfriend wants to go to Thailand for a couple months makes solo.
If you trust me.
Why would you be with someone that you don't trust enough to even leave your site for a while?
Why shouldn't you?
Why is there not a chance?
Why should I?
Because there's a whole world.
There's so much.
Why can't you discover that?
I personally wouldn't want my significant other to come with me and explain.
Well, they could, but it's also great to grow on your own.
For months, though?
See, this is the.
If I wanted to go to a retreat or something, and it was like, let's say a month-long silent retreat in Thailand or something, that would be wonderful to do by myself or with my partner.
And so we can trade ourselves.
I'm dumping you straight away.
Not my first one.
I'm breaking up with you.
Peace out.
Wait, what?
My first one.
No, just like, oh, you want to go to Thailand for a month to do a tantra retreat or some shit?
Why?
Rob your partner of experiences.
If I was dating anyone, I would trust you if you're going to be with me.
This is the thing.
Okay.
Okay.
Bye.
Peace out.
It's a different thing.
It's not for man for me.
Peace for RIP.
You too, homie.
Oh, Rip.
R.I.P.'s in the chat, boys.
Difference in values.
Just different preferences.
Definitely different preferences.
Yeah, I mean, it's just different values.
Like we said, there's trade-offs in life.
And one of the trade-offs that you have to make as a girl, like we said before, if it is something that you value to have a long-term relationship with a guy who has any sort of self-respect, one of the things that you will not be doing is saying I want to go to Thailand for a month because that guy will just say, see you later.
When you get back, you will be single.
Who are you dating?
I would never ever even go on a second date with someone that was that.
You haven't had a relationship for more than two weeks.
So that's kind of a good thing.
So three and a half years, a year, and two years.
Look, I'm just telling you the reality of how guys think here.
And in terms of a girl wanting to go away by herself to Thailand for a month, guys are just not going to put up with that.
And you can.
What are you scared of?
Me fucking someone?
Let's have a relationship conversation.
I'm glad to hear you.
A conversation where, like, I respect you and I love you, and my relationship with you is more important than bodies and people like that.
See, this is why you can live in that world if you want to.
But unfortunately, it's not my entire world.
In reality, guys know what happens.
You can come together and not make your partner like your living, breathing organ.
What type of relationship are you in if you don't want to see your partner for one to two months at a time?
Yeah, healthy.
Intentional.
In my opinion, because if you're going to be together for the rest of your life, there's years.
We have long lives.
So, I go in months and enjoy my life.
That's a lot of fun.
You're going to take any relationship and be around them 24/7 for the rest of your life.
If I'm in a relationship, I want to see my partner more often than that.
That's what I'm not kidding here.
But I'm choosing, like, I totally get like, I do understand what you're saying, and that's where my open-mindedness comes in.
And, like, I know that there are people out there that exist that have that view.
But, like, for me, I choose a partner that I would like to see every single day for the rest of my life.
And I would love to travel the world.
So, you're married, so you can speak to that.
You're not, you're 25, and like I said before, in 10 years' time, like right now, you're young, you're gorgeous, you're 25, you're getting all of this male attention, it's fantastic.
In 10 years' time, if you're 35 and you're buying your own drinks at the bar, it's going to be very different.
You're going to have a very different attitude towards this.
And this is the thing that girls don't get told.
Guys, we don't really need to get told because the world tells us every single day our flaws.
Girls, you can kind of just float about and say, Yeah, are you kidding?
The world doesn't tell girls every day their flaws.
No, when it comes to dating, no, you don't, because you actually don't know anything about like what men want.
So, it's manifestly true in you.
Such a harsh statement.
I don't know anything about what men want.
You kind of it's unfortunately.
You know, they want sex, they want body, but other than that, he's a straight shooter, okay?
He's a generalizer.
I like you, but I was like, Come on, I like you too.
Work with me.
The thing is, I think I could save you, honestly.
I think you're saying that to me.
The reason why I think I'm gonna put that one on the target.
No, no, no, I'll say what I want.
The reason why I think that is because, like, you're, I think you're actually a really nice girl.
You've got a lot to give, got a lot of love to give.
And if you gave that to the right place, it would be very powerful.
And this is what I always say: don't give me the violin.
This is what I say to girls though.
If you know this stuff and if you know it young, it's a superpower.
You're going to have a very successful marriage one day.
I could be certain of that.
It is so powerful for girls to know this sort of stuff and to know it young, but a lot they just don't get told.
What they get told is do whatever you want all the time with no consequences.
Exactly.
Word.
We have some more.
We got some notes here from you.
My stance on mind or dating, hookup culture, dating apps, etc., have made it so our dating pools are so much bigger than ever before.
Raven DT donated $100.
This is what happens when you try to detach intimacy from sex.
FHM interviewed four men 100 plus years old.
They were asked what the best vacation is.
They said the destination doesn't matter.
It matters who you go with.
It's about spending it with your wife.
I mean, but I mean.
Who you go with could be a couple of people.
I could go with someone dope to like Compton versus Hawaii.
Like the, you know, you know what I mean?
Like Hawaii might be a little nicer than Compton, just saying.
It definitely isn't.
Just saying in Compton.
I can confirm that.
Is that Compton a place people vacation in?
Have you ever seen it?
Really?
Really?
How much do you think?
I would love to take a look at this.
All right, Clara, let's take a girl's trip to you.
I will take you on the vacation to Compton.
You know, it's actually romantic.
Australians actually do do that.
We'll drive through because we've seen like baby movies and stuff like that.
Drive third.
Historical.
Yeah.
Historical one.
I sold this.
Having funny vacation and humding.
Well, I mean, Australians, American culture is very novel to us.
Like, I was at a Halloween party last night and I was like, couldn't believe it because I was looking around.
I felt like I was in a movie, like a scary movie or something like that.
You just do things very differently.
Are you in Vegas?
Because I was in Vegas last night and I don't feel the same way.
Unless I can't remember.
Let's see.
So you said, I think the abundance of opportunity and people to meet has made it so we don't take the time to take the people we meet as seriously.
We have troubles committing.
Something I can speak directly to.
When I was racing, I was gone sometimes for a month.
But I was working.
I missed my wife the entire time.
The difference with what this 304 is saying is as soon as she boards the plane, her BF is forgotten.
That's not what I'm saying.
Wow.
It's not what I'm saying.
Why can't I go on a trip and then call my boyfriend and be like, wow, that's what I'm up to?
With me.
I'm going to be excited to share that with them.
You know?
It's not like, don't shake your head.
What?
No.
I'm telling you how I feel.
Yeah, I know.
I just go and experience something without myself.
And they just don't want to let them know what I'm doing.
Doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
Once again, it just comes back to the fact that you just have trade-offs in life.
Guys have trade-offs we have to make all the time.
And girls have these trade-offs, and you can have them.
It's true.
Great.
You don't want to make the trade-offs.
Thank you, Grid One.
Thank you, Grid One.
Where was I?
Oh, okay.
So we have troubles committing, and long-term healthy relationships can be harder to come by because the dating pools are so much bigger than ever before.
Because abundance of there's an abundance of opportunity and people to meet.
It's made it so we don't take the time to take the time to take the people we meet as seriously.
Trouble committing, long-term.
What if I told you that this was only the case for the top tier of men on dating apps and nearly all women on dating apps?
Oh, because are you just like assuming that people, what is like top tier to you though?
Because it's only like money.
Top 10% of men.
It could be looks.
It could be.
But that's what that's what you always kind of generalize.
Like the top tier is just like and that's who the majority of women are all chasing after.
It's such a boring reason to chase someone.
It's what?
Such a boring reason to chase somebody.
Just because they're not, you know?
I mean, isn't that just human nature?
Heaven forbid.
Like if a guy comes up to me at a bar and is like, you're so sexy.
I'm just like, okay, like, it's just such a boring way to approach me.
What would you prefer?
Oh, your moon necklace.
Do you watch Sailor Moon?
Yeah.
Oh, I love Sailor Moon.
What a fun conversation, at least.
Not just like, what am I supposed to say?
Like, thanks.
Like, cool.
Like, now what do we do for you?
I love your clavicles.
You've got great clavicles.
Thank you.
Solid clavicles.
Do you know what a clavicle is?
Yes.
Okay, just, I wasn't sure.
I wasn't here.
You might be like, the fuck?
Don't talk about my clavicles.
I don't know.
Like, oh, look.
There's just so many more fun ways to flirt with people.
If I'm at a bar, there's like live music.
Okay, let's try it.
Let's get the microphones.
I'm a chick.
You're a dude.
Hit on me.
Go.
Oh, I saw a video like this on YouTube recently and it was very embarrassing for the girls.
So I'm a girl Usually like how I hit on people is I'm just kind of like No, but you're the dude You're the dude.
I'm the chick.
She's pit some game.
It's like...
Ha ha, he...
Jacqueline.
Ha ha.
This is hard.
Can I just describe what I think you should do?
Fucking lit.
I can't do this.
I'm not a theater kid.
I was in lighting.
I wasn't on stage.
I can't improv like this.
They're really ready to go.
I'm not jacking.
I'm not going to be able to do the microphone.
He's like ready.
You're trying to hit on my friend.
He's pretending.
Bitching about our friends.
This fucking.
What's up?
What?
Yeah, they did this well.
They did it this way.
Hi.
I've never been in this predicament before.
Hi.
You've never been in this predicament?
No.
What?
I think she dropped the roleplay.
Keep going.
That was your lunch.
Okay, Jeff.
Anyway, I'm going to go for improv.
Neither.
What if I start crying?
Would that be very interesting to you?
No, I'd probably just go.
What kind of girl am I talking to?
Because if it was me as a man talking to a girl, they would be like a snake.
You're over.
You're overcrying.
I'm the logo.
This is what I do.
I would say women respond to you complimenting their vibe or.
What?
Sorry, so this is.
What?
Yeah.
What?
Like, their vibe or complimenting them on something that they're wearing.
Like, actually starting a conversation instead of immediately going for a little bit.
Having a purpose to come up to them and then going away.
Sammy Joe, we're ready.
Go for it.
Have you seen Sally?
I'm not, but I guess I'm about to be.
You're better than me.
Sally.
Like, bitching about our friends.
Oh my God, do you want to go to the bathroom?
Hey, ladies, are you having a good night tonight?
Yeah.
You guys look great tonight.
Thank you.
Yeah, cool.
Awesome.
So what are you guys into?
What brings you guys out?
Just hanging out.
Just dance.
Nice.
Are you guys celebrating anything girls' night?
Nice.
Do you guys do this often?
Huh?
Do you guys do girls' night often?
Oh, you know.
Wait, what's that?
Twice a week.
What's the MO?
Am I just trying to get to know you or like trying to smash?
Trying to smash.
Oh, well, if you guys are on a girls' night, then you're automatically smashing.
No, no, we're down to smash.
We're down to Smash, but only with, like, a chat.
So do you guys, like...
No, it can't be better.
Continue the roleplay.
You can't interrupt the roleplay.
Okay, okay.
Do you come here?
Do we continue to do it?
Your drinks look a little empty.
Like, do you guys want to know a drink?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, awesome.
Why don't you come with me to the bar so that you guys can see me ordering the drinks?
That's a little bit creepy, to be honest.
It does sound creepy.
You would rather me bring you a drink without you seeing it being made?
That's dangerous.
No, I think these guys are being aggressive.
That is so dangerous.
These guys are guys dancing a lot.
I would say, let's head on to the bar.
Let's head over to the bar and get a drink.
This guy's pretty forceful.
Maybe later.
These girls won't seem minimal.
We should leave them alone.
They don't seem like that.
We'll be here when you come back if you're interested.
Bitch.
I came back.
I came back in.
That just goes to show that you guys would carry a drink from the bar to someone without them watching.
No, we wouldn't have offered the drink.
No.
You wouldn't have offered me a drink?
No.
You'd be amazing.
What if I start coughing?
Thank you.
Well, I'll give you some cuffs there.
I'd be like, I'll eat that.
You turned that off in my back pocket.
That was just a big fail.
You guys were really poor girl actors.
That's how honestly we gave you a lot.
We gave you a lot.
Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot worse treatment than that.
It seems like girls, but like, obviously not interested.
So if I was the guy, I would have instantly been like, oh, okay, have a good night.
Yeah, but you got to break through the shell a little bit.
But if you are a girl that is out on a girls' night down to go home with someone, you're not going to have that front facade.
Yeah, why do you have a shell?
I don't have a shell.
A what?
You call it a shell.
You got to break through the shell.
Like if you have an Missouri.
Like if I see a guy, I like the gown.
I'm like, all right, he's got like funky garbage.
Normally, I won't just approach girls like that who I haven't had any.
Because normally girls will put themselves in your space.
Like if you're near them at the bar and they look close to you, if they give you the eyes a little bit, they give you signals.
If they've given you no signals, they're not normally they'll stay way away from you.
Even in the gym, if they come near you and stuff, you just know.
They want you to know.
We have a Twitter post of yours.
Oh, no.
Don't do that.
If you're able to pull it up, Nick.
Did I. Wait, scroll up, Nick?
Scroll up.
Did I write this?
Why do all boys get so boring after like two weeks?
Why do they do that?
I'm adding to the lore of that joke, you know?
Oh, Nick, did we close out her other tweet about the at the club talking to other people's best friends?
Did we close or non-traditional Twitter?
Yeah, how do I tell men I'm I think you meant flirting with, right?
Flirting with me.
Basically, I say flinging.
Oh, which means flirting, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
At the bar, did I want to go explore the room and flirt with strangers a little and I'll be RB?
I stand by this.
Truthfully, like if I was trying to talk to a girl in the bar, I mean, obviously we're not dating, you're not committed to me, but if like I was talking to you and then I see you like, you want to leave to talk to other men, like that's a wrap.
I'm not going to talk to you again.
We have established that we would not work.
This is just like no, but I'm saying in general.
Well, again, that's a cake and eat it too moment.
It's like you want everything else and then you then you're oh sorry.
It's a cake and eat it too moment.
It's you want that guy, but you want that guy to be okay with you going around.
I don't really want him to be okay with it.
If he's not okay with it and I mention it to him and he's like, oh, not really my vibe.
I'll be like, okay.
Why would you, if you're.
Why would any guy be okay?
Because I went to, I was in Asia and I went to this bar with this guy and he was just like really all over me and I wasn't feeling him that hard.
And so I was like, okay, I want to like enjoy this party and meet other people.
I don't want to be like attached at the hip to this person I don't really know that well, you know?
Sure.
Like we're not that close.
We're not flinging like that.
So like I'm going to go look around, have fun for a while, talk to some people, get a drink, you know?
Did you show up with him?
Yeah.
Wait, you went to the bar with him?
What was the context?
There was like, it's like an island that you can get to like each side by like in like eight minutes in Thailand.
Kofi Fi?
Ko Tau.
Yeah.
And so you just like run up the same people all the time.
So like I didn't really like know him like that.
Was it a date?
Did you guys organize to go to the bar together?
I mean we organized to go to the bar together.
I don't know if I was like, wait, but you went home.
But wait, wait, wait.
Why didn't it feel like a date?
Because obviously it's just like some travels to hang out with a hot girl.
How did you meet him?
I think I met him on the beach because I would go to this beach bar all the time and I'd just hang out with the bartender there.
So it wasn't a dating app, it was you met him on the beach.
For sure.
And he asked, was the subtext kind of he was romantically interested in you?
Oh, for sure.
Had you guys already hooked up?
No.
We're kissing.
Wait, hold on.
You'd already kissed him?
We were kissing in the bar.
Okay.
So was this before.
Was this you kissed him?
Wait, you kissed him and then you wanted to go flirt with other men?
Yes.
You kissed him at the bar that you wanted to go and flirt with the other men asked?
Well, once you established it.
Yeah, because like I was just realizing through that hangout that I was just not feeling this as much as he was feeling.
Energy and the vibes and that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, like he was like attaching at the hips, follow me around.
And like we were with like a huge group of our friends too from that island.
So the chakras just went aligning and the energy and the vibes and you wanted to just sort of be.
The energy and the vibes were.
But when that happened, did you establish that you were no longer interested and that you were going to go talk to other people?
That post is about.
How do I mention to the guy that I'm flinging with?
But did you?
I'm not flinging, but did you?
I'm a great communicator.
Flinging.
I thought you misspelled, like, you were flirting.
But this was a fling.
You were flinging.
It was a fling.
I was flinging.
But you said you hadn't hooked up with him yet.
No, other than just kissing in the bar that.
To be honest, that seems a little bit malicious.
Oh, well.
What do you have to say about that?
Huh?
I mean, that's why I try to have good communication like that, because that might be hurtful because I have these intentions for myself and my night.
But I try to, as quickly as I can figure out that I feel that way, like, oh, this guy was cute and we were having fun at that bar this morning, but now that we're out here, I'm not feeling it.
I'm going to move on and I'm going to tell him that.
I'm not going to just leave him and be like, fuck you.
And if you want to.
Essentially, that's what you did, though, right?
I mean, what?
Should I just like never ghost him?
No, you have to.
I think you probably should have been like, oh, I'm just going to go back home.
Thanks.
I've had a good night, but I'm not feeling so well or something like that.
And just maybe leave the bar rather than just like keeping him watching you go and we were out with a group of friends.
Sounds like you're trying to incite a little bit of jealousy, maybe.
Well, I hope not, but I guess people are more jealous than I am.
And so I can admit maybe I can unintentionally hurt people's feelings in the way that I interact with the world.
If I had just made out with a girl and I saw her go off and flirt with a bunch of other dudes at the bar, yeah, I'd feel a certain type of way about it.
You're not my future boyfriend.
I'm not going to be anybody.
That's cool.
We're going to go out late nights.
As long as you're happy.
We're going to turn like we don't know each other.
I'm going to sit across the bar with my drink.
You're going to have a lot of flirt with women.
You see, I think it comes out after us.
That's why I'm always a little bit suspicious of the like the love that everything's all love, lovey-dovey, all peace and energy and love types.
Because at the end of the day, that's quite mean what you did there, don't you think?
Well, I don't think any person is perfect, and I think I try my best to lead.
Seems like you kind of enjoyed it a little bit.
I don't enjoy hurting someone, of course not.
But I do feel like maybe because I'm young, I am selfish, and I will recognize that.
And so what I wanted to do that night was in the moment more important than maybe being like, I'll go home and not hurt this person.
Did I set out to hurt them?
No.
I don't think a lot of people.
More interesting question.
At what point did he lose your respect?
Because there's a moment there.
I can tell that there's an ick moment there.
What was it?
Did I lose?
He lose my respect?
Yeah, yeah, he lost your respect at some point.
I really don't like when guys lead primarily with sex.
And so it was very physical.
And I wanted, because I am a sexual person and I'm happy to have sex.
And I also value people that will kind of do more of that fun dance of getting to know each other, see how we feel.
You want a little bit more mystery.
He killed the mystery straight away.
You had nothing to long for anymore.
Not mystery.
Again, that's exactly the opposite of what I want.
I want more genuine human connection.
And I felt it was a little bit just too like, I'm on a trip.
You're hot.
I'm hot.
Let's do this.
And I'm like, that's not what I'm looking for.
Were you a little bit resentful?
What were you looking for, though?
There's fun little, like, balled-up moments of human connection where I'm like, wow, you are such a cool person, and I really enjoy your company.
And this is, what a great night work.
Peace and love and kumbaya.
But no sex.
Okay, you're like, you're doing a bit.
Yeah, you scoot.
What I'm trying to get at, though, is there's a point where this guy's lost your respect.
I don't care.
And then you don't care.
And then you've gone and like done this.
And it seems like there was a moment where you kind of were a little bit resentful of him and you wanted to make a difference.
She said he was too sex forward.
He was too sex forward.
He was too one-tried mindful.
I don't want to fuck you or hang out with you anymore because this is not what I'm looking for.
Peace, love, have a good night.
I'm not resentful.
But was he touching you?
Was he making out with you too aggressively?
Was he a little bit more?
You can just tell.
You're a woman.
You know, when like I'm so confused.
Here's what I'm confused about.
In the context of you traveling, what exactly, like, what is on the table besides a short-term casual sexual encounter?
Because, like, if I'm traveling, and I, I mean, if you are traveling, long-term relationship is kind of off the table.
You're both looking for a long-term relationship.
Exactly, but so why would you be upset in a context where it would make sense where the only thing on the table is a short-term casual encounter that that's what he was pursuing?
Because even you say you don't, hold on, let me finish.
You even said you're not looking for a long-term thing.
When people are traveling, like, if some girl is in town here and she's in town for a week, she's probably not looking for a long-term thing because just the context makes it nearly impossible because she's going back 5000 people about people.
Like, if this guy's just like trying to fuck me, he's not asking about me.
He's not interested in like vibing with me outside of just like kissing, like touching all this.
And girls, you guys know that if you go on a date with someone, I mean, you want they have different motives and what you want.
So I'm fine with short-term relationships, short-term.
But you want them to pretend like they care about you?
So I'm saying about me like he didn't, then I'm, I don't want you to pretend.
I want you to like pick up by.
But do you want a guy to care, like, to care about, like, you want, you want him to activate?
People like me.
You want him to act as if he would pursue a long-term relationship with you, even though the subtext is, we're not going to be in a long-term relationship.
The only thing is, is sex is short-term casual.
I understand what I'm saying, because I want small, like, bubbles of like experiencing people.
I want to know like all about you.
I want to know.
Why?
But if it's a short-term casual sexual encounter, what would be the purpose of getting this deep connection with someone for a short time?
Because I love people.
Because I love experiencing and finding out.
Again, again, my whole point of love or life is love and to be loved.
And so the point is not just to fuck.
The point is to experience something about you.
What I don't understand is the one time she's saying she actually doesn't just want to go and sleep with someone is when you guys are confused.
So at once in this conversation, she's actually saying my motive was not to sleep with this person and their motive was.
There's confusion on my end that she doesn't want to sleep with anyone.
That's not the confusion.
The confusion for me was the motive that ended up making you want to go and flirt with other guys in front of this person who you've just been kissing.
Because to me, that's just like kind of a mean thing to do.
And I was just kind of trying to get to the bottom of what he did that pissed you off, that made you want to go do that in front of him.
Because females can be very vicious like that.
If they get pissed off by something, then they will go and do something to really like.
I didn't mean to be vicious and I didn't set out to hurt him.
I did not know this man enough to consider that that would be a big deal.
And in retrospect, that probably could have hurt him.
And that sucks.
I don't want to do that to people.
For example, like I don't get if a girl's on a dating app and she's like, oh, I'm in town in Santa Barbara for a week or for the weekend and they're like actively looking to meet up with a guy.
Now I get it.
There's some girls who like want the fucking tour guide because that's whatever.
That's weird.
But it's like, why would you be on a dating app while you're traveling?
And I'm not saying, I don't know if you were on the dating app, but I've encountered this where the girl's like, hey, I'm in town for a week.
I want to meet up with a dude.
You're going back to New York in three days.
My assumption there is you want a short-term sexual encounter.
But I had an experience with a girl.
Granted, she might have just not been interested, but met up for a date, and she's in town for four days.
And I'm like, okay, this is just, she wants a hookup.
And then we're at the bar.
I'm not like, we met up for a drink or something.
And I was like, we hung out.
We were actually having a very pleasant conversation.
And I'm like, hey, do you want to go back to my place?
And she's like, I don't do that on the first date.
I'm like, bro, you're in town for two days.
What the fuck?
Like, I mean, it's fine.
It's cool.
But I'm like.
Well, you're just making a difference.
We don't have time for a second date.
Like, hello?
I acknowledge that my dating style is non-traditional, which is why I put that in my application.
That not a lot of people set out to date people for what I set out to date people for.
I don't really necessarily have a problem with your dating style.
The thing I have a problem with is the whole, like, I just love people.
It's like, did you love that guy when you did that?
Boom, roasted.
I think I said as much as I can on that people are imperfect.
Yeah.
And being young and selfish, you do things that you're not always like, oh, that's awesome.
Like, yeah, like, I don't mean to hurt this person that I met that day.
And I could have, and that sucks.
I don't want that.
So the intention was I don't know.
I always avoid the whole like, I just love it.
That language is just, just grinds me.
I will not.
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She wants to break the heart of men if she wants to get to know them and does this crap.
She's a psychopath.
Mrs. Mars Noir, I predict your future for you.
You hit the wall at probably 30.
No guy that you want wants you and you will die alone.
Wow.
Out.
Damn.
Do you have a response to Gregneck?
I mean, again, just kind of off of what I've been saying.
Nunnery is an option.
I know my intention.
I know the people that I date are down for what I got on the table, what I'm throwing, you know?
They can swing it.
So I don't feel offended by people being like, you're going to die alone because I don't like how you do things.
And it's like, okay, sorry.
What do you want from me?
I'm growing.
I'm learning.
I'm dating.
I'm young and I'm single.
And so I'm doing my best here.
Well, you have some more pre-show notes here.
You say, I think my hot take on dating is that I think we should embrace non-traditional dating more as a society than we do.
I don't believe in the ownership in a relationship that seems to be the norm in society.
I strongly believe that for me to have a healthy, long-standing relationship, we need to support each other in experiencing all that life has to offer.
I've been over this.
In sex, in love, and experiences, your relationship shouldn't hold you back from these experiences.
And that stands on good communication and trust.
What you want and what you get from your relationship is up to you and your partner, not social expectations.
So when you say, you say you don't believe in the ownership in a relationship.
We've kind of all been over this.
Did we?
But what precisely did you do?
The tape video, like we've kind of like roundabout at this point.
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought maybe you had more on that.
I'm talking.
But for example, like one of my standards for a girl that I would take seriously in the long-term relationship is I don't want a girl who's partying all the time, who's drinking, who's going to bars, who's going to clubs.
To me, that does not a good relationship make.
So if I girl.
I don't want that for my boyfriend.
I don't want my boyfriend to feel that about me.
And both of these opinions are chill.
You know, like you can think your way and find the person that you want to date, and I can think my way and find the person I want to date.
And I think both are fine.
But what we as men often hear when we say, yeah, we don't want our girlfriend going out to bars, clubs, parties, like going into these party-type environments with their typically single female friends.
Who hate you?
We hear insecure, controlling, et cetera.
My view is what the, and you haven't said it, but what they often say is insecure, controlling.
What these people call controlling, insecure, I consider just a healthy boundary for a relationship.
So I don't know if you have a differing view on that.
If you view, you might say that that's acceptable, but you might view it as controlling or insecure.
You might say it's not, it's a lack of trust or something.
It's kind of like I said earlier, it's like it can be either, you know, like, and that's what's the fun of meeting all the people and experiencing people and like everyone's so different.
And yeah, maybe it'll come from insecurity.
You had like a bad ex or your parents had a bad marriage or something.
And then maybe you can take that and work in that relationship to find your good boundary.
Or it just comes from like personal preference and you rather your girlfriend not do stuff like that and you'll find your person that is be like, yeah, sounds like a party.
Like that's cool.
Your person would have like no boundaries though.
And I think that you're like I said, they're just different than you're actually someone who has quite like a big personality.
And you would require a man who has very strict boundaries.
Big personality.
Yeah, you have a big personality.
You'd require a man.
And I'm really introverted.
This is really complimentatively.
Yeah, so you'd require a man from my observation that would have quite strong boundaries in order for you to respect him at all.
Because if you have strong boundaries?
Yeah, strong boundaries.
Someone who's assertive and someone who's quite a masculine sort of person.
For sure.
And if they mix with mine well, like there's certain things that I would be willing to sacrifice for a relationship and things that I wouldn't.
And they might be different than yours, but just like person to person.
Well, on your note here, you say, I strongly believe that for me to have, and I already read this, but I just have a point on it.
I strongly believe that for me to have a healthy, long-standing relationship, we need to support each other in experiencing all that life has to offer in sex and love and experiences.
When you say that in a relationship, we need to support each other in experiencing all that life has to offer in sex and love and experiences.
Are you talking about sleeping with other people while in a relationship?
If it makes sense for me and my partner, yeah.
Well, is that what you want?
Sure.
Yeah.
If I have a long-standing, committed relationship, I definitely see myself being very comfortable.
I'm not a very jealous person.
And I think the only time that that sucks is with cheating because you're doing something malicious towards me.
You are taking my trust for you and deciding that, fuck that, my sexual urges are more important.
So you would step out as well?
If I feel like it, yeah.
If you feel like it.
And it's like a very broad way to say that, but like...
But any guy who lets his...
I'm not a super, like...
Yeah, any guy who lets his girlfriend step out is a cock.
I saw a license plate on the way he said love to cut.
Well, maybe he's your guy.
I know.
I was like trying to wave him down.
I was like, hey.
But the more serious point, though, is that if that were the case, you wouldn't respect that guy.
You'd walk all over him.
You would absolutely eat him alive.
Sex is not the only way to respect people.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the actual fundamental respect in relationships.
Well, because my partner is cool with me having a sexual experience outside of a relationship, therefore, unrespectable, bad guy, walk all over him.
No.
I don't feel that way.
That's what you said.
I'm more talking about like a fundamental respect that happens in a relationship.
And this normally happens when the girl feels like the guy is in control and that he's taking the lead and she can respect him, and she can respect his authority and she can respect the decisions that he makes and think he, if you just let me finish my point if and she respects his, the decisions that he makes, and that um yeah, he's got the lead, when she has a problem, he can solve it.
And generally a guy likes to be respected.
We have we have egos, all of us guys and, like I said before, there's certain superpowers that you girls have that if you just tapped into would be so, so powerful.
And one of those things is just making a guy feel respected, if you know how to make a man feel respected.
But I think respect is earned through communication.
Like if my partner is closer, like okay, if my partner is, like if we get together and have a conversation and come to our boundaries and agreements, it's not disrespecting you.
Disrespecting you would be to hear what you're cool with and not cool with, like to hear that you don't want me to like flirt people at the bottom.
I'll tell you what respect would be.
Respect would be me telling you my boundaries and you saying yes sir yeah yes, your mouth is quivering as you're saying yes um, I like, I feel like most healthy, well-adjusted men are not gonna be cool with their girlfriend wanting to fuck or actually fucking other dudes.
Well, you always bring it back to fucking and it's not like, but that's what we're talking about.
That's pretty important.
Yeah like okay fine, I wouldn't want you to be, I wouldn't want you to be emotionally cheating either.
I wouldn't want you to be flirting with other dudes either.
What, what under like, what other contexts are there?
Those are great contexts, just saying, like they're all going back to fucking and I just, I don't know, I feel like with the people that I know and surround myself with where like, you surround yourself with a lot of people that are in your faith and respect your like virginity and probably feel the same, most atheist men don't want their girlfriend fucking other dudes.
It's not about religion, i'm not making about religion, i'm just saying she surrounds herself.
No, I don't, I don't know, i'm just trying to remember-minded people.
Yes yeah yeah, it's not about thinking liberal, atheist men probably don't their girlfriend.
It's not about religion, it's just like like-minded people.
So I found myself with people that make it a problem of morality.
So yeah, it is a religious problem and you're a, you're a liberal, i'm assuming, liberal atheist um, not an atheist.
Um yeah agnostic, I don't know.
I she believes in the movie God.
Yeah, I grew up Catholic and then I had um, I moved out really young and I kind of stopped practicing faith.
Okay, so i've never really like picked it up, and actually going to Thailand was like the first time in a long time that i've re-met spiritual people outside of, I mean people from all over different religions, like Buddhists too, for sure.
But yeah, I don't have like an idea of what my faith is.
You know, it's like one of those like moments.
Yeah, do you ever see yourself being monogamous?
Of course.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
But I mean, I feel like you'd be a very dangerous person to get into a serious monogamous relationship with just because of your proclivities towards wanting to experience all that life has to offer in sex and love and experiences.
I would hope that I would find like-minded people that make sense for me.
That's what everyone hopes in a relationship.
And if we agreed, like, hey, like, let's just do us.
It's not going to, like, again, like, I believe in like experiencing everything and not holding people back, but at the same time, like, you're doing a give and take in a relationship.
Sure.
I don't know.
Wait, I want to pull up your Twitter really quick, then we're going to move on.
Okay, another Twitter.
No, the first Twitter thing from her.
Okay, let's say, like, be careful on there.
Yeah, be careful.
Why do all boys get so boring after like two weeks?
Why do they do that?
I don't know if we really dove deep on this.
So the guys get boring, right?
She's a gag.
Any danger in a corner?
It's just a gag.
I was saying, I was like, I was adding more to a funny joke.
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Hold on.
She says that she wants all that, like a long-term committed relationship.
Shaw Santu is real and the Pope is Presbyterian.
Holy Brian, where do you find these people?
I'm sorry, the truth is every girl that does S-Work dies alone or with a simp she don't respect.
True.
Come on, women.
Yes!
Gregneck.
You really hit the soundboard on that.
I had to hit it.
I had to hit it.
Pull up the tweet once again.
So you're saying that it's just like a joke?
Yeah, because I had two really long relationships back to back, and then I started dating more casually.
Well, you said you've been single for three years, and none of them, like nothing's lasted longer than two weeks.
And you said you get bored super easily.
It's like an over-exaggeration of my point of trying to get the basis of how I date up.
But when you say bored, like do you feel that we as men ought to be your entertainers?
No, it's like the, okay, let's say I'm like dating a guy and we're having a lot of fun and we hang out, but maybe like we have fun when we're out at the movies or like driving around town, but when we're at home sitting and talking, it's just not doing it.
And I'm like, I'd rather just cut it off than like keep doing this.
You're a great person, but you're not the person for me.
Too much.
When you guys have all this life experience and you have all of these different guys, the laundry list grows.
And you're like, we had a great time outside.
Yeah, but when I was with, you know, Dean, we used to have a great time at home.
And you were, though.
And then when I was with him, we used to have great sex and sex isn't as good.
And then the laundry list is basic, boring topics.
Like, he can't talk to me about like politics or he can't talk to me about like current events.
He can't talk to me about like getting bored to respond to your tweet is because you have too many things that you're trying to look for.
Too many boxes.
You can't let them go.
I think one thing related to that that some women will do is they'll, if they've dated a lot of men, they will want the amalgamation of those men.
So this guy was really good in bad.
This guy had a great personality.
This guy was the provider.
This guy had the status, whatever it is.
But you're dating people, not amalgamations.
And I feel, again, like.
But women want the total package.
They want the amalgamation.
I'm not talking to me about my tweet.
Okay, we can come back to the tweet then.
We're talking about specifics, not general.
I'm just curious, how so the three years you say you keep finding yourself in these two week things and you get bored or you move on or whatever and you seem to be the one who ends all of them.
How many of these two week things would you say there've been?
Dozens?
So like the first year being single, I was celibate, didn't date anybody.
For a year?
For a year.
Had a long relationship, didn't work out.
There was a lot of emotional stress.
Needed some time alone to be young and grow into my own self before getting back into the sauce.
I don't know.
It is because I go on a lot of dates.
I don't know how long.
You go on a lot of dates.
What do you mean?
Those free dinners?
No, I actually am very Dutch.
You split the bill?
Often, yeah.
Okay, that's fine.
When you say you go on a lot of dates, what are we talking about?
A couple times a week?
Maybe some weeks.
What's that?
Maybe some weeks, but not like often.
How many in the past?
It's so hard to tell.
In 2023, how many first dates have you been on?
Hmm.
Could not tell you.
Above 50.
Give us a range.
Bo 50.
For sure.
20.
25.
20 first dates?
25?
I don't know.
30?
20 to 30.
I don't know.
You don't know?
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah.
Even with that.
How many two-week things have you had?
Like two weeks to like a month, so.
Well.
Count them on my fingers.
I don't know, like lesson six.
Okay.
Word.
But you said when you're just hanging out with them at the house, that's when you get bored.
That was that guy's reason.
That specific guy.
What about the other guys?
You get bored with them?
One guy, I couldn't see us having a life that made sense together because of what his goals were for his life.
It's like that.
It's like never anything so terribly crazy.
You don't make enough or something.
It's just like, I just don't see our lives working together.
But you say you get bored.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Because it's a part of the lore of the joke.
The lore of the joke.
Yeah.
Are you alone?
This is a lot of questions.
Yeah, this is the Inquisition.
I mean, just my whole thing on this boredom thing.
I definitely think if a girl is bored just hanging out with you, that's a pretty bad sign.
It's a pretty bad sign.
That's why it ends.
But like, for example, I think if a girl really fucking likes you, she will be super stoked to just hang out with you and do nothing.
Once your girl likes to be with you, you're not going to mesh with every single person ever.
And I just love meeting people and experiencing people.
And that's going to make it very hard for you to find a long-term relationship.
Will you ever match?
Huh?
What do you think?
Will you ever match?
Totally.
But like, once your girl, like if you've otherwise been just hanging out with your girl and then she starts saying, oh, can we go out and do more things?
I'm bored.
You might as well break up at that point.
I feel like at that point, you don't appreciate your girlfriend.
She doesn't respect you anymore.
A girl who respects you and really likes you and loves you will be happy to just be in your presence.
So she had to stay with that person.
Because they hung out, right?
She found that there was something about these people that she didn't like, right?
Their goals didn't align.
Their values didn't align.
They're great people.
But doesn't that mean that they're great?
So should she have settled and stayed with them?
Yes, because it's not romantic nicer than me.
No, no, it means that she's looking at the fair and doesn't have to be a lot of fun.
Of course, but I'm happy to put myself out there and try.
Wait, are they attractive?
Yes.
They're good people.
Yes.
They're great for you.
No.
But you said they're great people.
Sorry, that's a different phrase.
Just because they're a good person doesn't mean that we're a good fit.
I can appreciate her.
What would make somebody appreciate her?
You're married.
But like I can appreciate her and still be like, she's a wonderful, amazing person.
Should we be together?
I don't know.
Well, are you confirmed?
Are you bi?
Yes.
Okay, well, okay.
But she happens to be married, so I think she's off.
No, I'm just hey, she can bring somebody home girls.
Okay.
Don't answer for me.
I want a cut of whatever OnlyFans.
Oh gosh.
Oh my gosh.
You guys do.
I just think it's like this TikTok brain where we're men.
We're not your entertainers.
I'm not making you entertainers.
Hold on.
We're not your dancing monkeys.
If you want entertainment, if you want to be amused, if you want to be entertained, go watch Netflix.
When you're ready to have an adult relationship, the foundation of which it's not built on the degree to which we can entertain you.
That's not the vibe, and you don't get me.
I don't get you.
You don't get me.
I don't get you.
No.
You've gone on 21st, 25, 31st dates.
What's the common denominator here?
Of the people.
It's you.
Yeah.
It's you.
Yes, because I made a decision for myself that I wanted to date more people because I went from like dating sucks.
No, it doesn't.
I have a great time.
Get free shit.
I do relationships.
Honestly, bro, 31st dates in the that to me, that's.
I mean, it is November, almost November, so that's 11 months.
That's still a lot.
30?
I've been on three this year.
Because you go on.
Wow.
Well, yeah, women have dating on easy mode.
That's fine.
I've noticed that you've resorted to like passive-aggressive insults a lot tonight.
No, it's just a wow.
It's a wow because women have dating on easy mode.
Am I passive-aggressive to you?
Yeah, you are a little bit passive-aggressive.
That was pretty passive-aggressive.
Well, sorry.
Okay, whatever.
We don't need to get meddled with it.
But I mean, like, you've been on 31st dates.
Women have dating on easy mode.
I think for sure that, like, you have to be a little bit more.
Do you have a brother?
Do you have a brother?
I have seven siblings.
Wow.
How many brothers do you have?
All brothers besides one.
All brothers besides one?
Do you are they full siblings?
Like, none of them are.
Oh, none of them are?
When we're talking brothers, are we?
What kind of brothers are we talking about?
Don't step brothers.
Wait, what?
So I say, I don't know.
She's got.
Okay.
She's not.
Why did you have to make such an innocent question?
What is hell?
What are you doing with her?
I mean, we all love a good stepbro roleplay, you know, but you just asked her about her freaking brothers.
No, I guess, like, I'd be curious to know if they were like your full siblings.
Because it's always, I'm always curious, like, girls who have like a lot of, who can get a lot of dates.
I'm always curious to hear, like, let's say your brother, if he's around your age, is he able to secure as many dates as you?
And typically, what I find is, is like female, like, women are able to get way more dates than their brothers who you'd think are like, to some degree, their looks equivalent because they're biologically related to you.
So they're like looks-wise, they're probably your somewhat equivalent, sort of, I guess.
I don't know.
Sometimes.
Although, sometimes it doesn't work out like that.
Okay, good times.
Good times.
Let's move on.
We have, who do we have?
Do we have any chats?
Do we have wait, what's that?
You got questions?
Oh, we got a chat here.
Let's do it.
Thorium Fusion Dielectric donated $100.
TBH to red hair.
When you sigh, it sounds sexy.
I am good looking with six plus figures and related to the whole experience all of it vibe.
You've been taking it like a champ, but if I were to be up for it, you'd have to delete of and be monogamous.
I'm a good looking with six plus figures and relate to the whole experience.
You've been taking it like a champ, but if I were to be would you date him if you don't?
I don't know him.
All he gave me is I'm rich.
And what?
Okay, I guess does he have to send another chat and yeah, you have to send another chat.
I don't know you.
I'll put in a good word.
I'll be like, wow, you have money?
That's awesome.
We're going to have a beautiful life till we're now.
I will say that Thorium Fusion Dielectric did once save me from a honey badger.
Oh, no, no, no.
We were, yeah, we were on an expedition in you guys so good at this, like, role-playing chat.
This was an expedition in the Middle Earth.
Middle Earth.
No, okay, no, it's unrealistic.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'll just play along with that.
This has become intriguing.
To the land of Mordor and the far depths of Mount Dunn.
Gregneck donated $99.
Fucking silly.
Is this in response?
There's a TTS war between Gregneck and Thorium Fusion Delectric.
Funny.
That's funny.
Fusion, Thorium Fusion.
Do you have a response to Gregneck and you want to shoot your shot a little better at our friend here?
Just let us know.
Okay, we also have Modest Jacama.
Joe from IT here.
Thank you for the red pill, Brian.
Sexually experienced women will get bored with you, ask for an open relationship, then cheat, then ask for a divorce on your dime, of course.
Welcome to my life.
What?
That's Modest Jacama.
That's Hiccama, by the way.
There might be an infographic that we can pull up.
Nick, if you can go into the infographic folder, it's time for you to get a watch.
That's true.
Yeah, it's in the Dropbox.
Hold on, I'm trying to find it.
Yo, Modest Jacama.
This is my first time seeing you in the chat, man.
Thank you for your patronage.
Welcome, welcome.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
It's just Hiccama.
Oh, Infographics.
Jacama.
It's Hiccup.
It's a fruit.
Yeah.
Jacama.
Hiccama.
Hiccama.
I think you guys are mispronouncing it.
That's fine.
It's definitely Jacama.
It's called Marriage in the.
Oh.
Jay Butler.
Is it going to be about herpes, bro?
None of this.
There it is about herpes.
Oh, my God.
We must approach this exorcism using the genital herpes angle.
Condoms do not protect from this filth.
And once you get a certain amount of bodies, the infection is as sure as death and taxes.
She's got it for sure.
What's a high amount of bodies to you?
Double digits.
Double digits.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jay Butler always coming in with the herpes.
Always conversation.
He is a what is the he's a urologist.
Jay Butler is a urologist.
That's cool.
One of the premier urologists.
He works at the USC.
So no, no, no.
I didn't say that.
He works at a very prestigious medical establishment, and he's a urologist, which means he looks at cocks all fucking day.
Days are a bit more difficult.
In a medical capacity, I'm very, I'm very jealous.
I wish that was my job.
Because my job is looking at, never mind.
Oh, wow.
Brian, you're the one that asked me to come back.
Well, it wasn't directed at you.
I'm just saying, sometimes I'd rather just look at cocks all day than do this job.
I mean, absolutely.
I would rather.
There's definitely a subscriber creators.
You can definitely subscribe to someone's.
No, but it would be.
Listen, it would be within a medical context.
Okay, I'd be a professional.
I want to help.
I would help out men with their penises.
Are you going to start a medical media?
What the hell am I saying, bro?
Instead of BLM, you're going to start, like, a BBC movement.
Sorry.
Sorry, go.
Oh, Jesus.
Okay, I don't know.
Where were we?
Where were we?
Oh, the wedding thing.
Pull up the wedding infographic really quick.
You got it?
Marriage in the 21st century.
I want marriage.
Okay, I want kids.
Okay.
Okay, the wife is nagging while I'm trying to work.
I'm mowing the lawn and I'm cutting the grass and I'm walking the dog.
Here's me at work.
I get back from work.
I'm all stressed out from work.
My wife yells at me.
Gotta play with kids.
Oh, the wife, the romance is gone.
Can you scroll it up?
Make it bigger.
God, why are these always made in men's favor, though?
Put us on the other side, I guess.
Oh, man.
So I can read this one.
Occasionally.
Because men get fucked in marriage.
We're all humans.
Show us that on the other side.
Other side.
Yeah, that's fine.
And then you'll hide it again.
The romance is gone.
He doesn't give me enough attention.
You're so beautiful.
I can't stop thinking about you.
Stop.
You know I'm married.
And then, like, oh, the husband, he's just trying to like golf.
The woman, the wife nagging.
Come on, let me come over for a coffee while he's at work.
Boom.
Cucked.
How could you do this?
He made me feel special.
Divorce.
The woman gets all the money in the house, and then you're living.
Boom.
Life ruined.
Is modest Jacama?
Is that what happened to you?
Is that what happened to you?
This is in response to modest Jacama.
Welcome to his life.
He got divorced.
Divorced.
Apparently, the average divorce costs $20,000?
It's probably, I feel like it's more than that.
I don't know.
I mean, that's not, that's like maybe the attorney's cost or something.
It's a clean divorce, though.
Yeah, it's a cheap one.
My divorce is very cheap.
How much did your divorce cost?
We were very amicable.
Yeah, we were just like, you take your shit, I take my shit.
But you still had to get an attorney, right?
He did.
He paid me like $500 a month for like a year, but that was it.
No, no, no, no.
That's not what I'm talking about.
The attorney, you had an internal.
I did not have an attorney.
So you guys did self-help, divorce?
Yeah, basically.
Yeah, it was like all during COVID, so there was a lot of people that were helpful.
It was like a mediation type thing.
Yeah, like we never went to like.
Wait, how long were you guys married again?
Like eight or nine months.
Wait, you were married eight or nine months and he paid you alimony?
Was this in California?
No, no, this is in Florida.
I was on his, we got married so I could have medical insurance because I was really, really sick and going through like surgeries and stuff like that.
Were you guys actually dating?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We were together for multiple years.
We were planning on getting married.
We just like were going to get married the next year.
So we just moved it up a year.
But because I got so sick and because of everything.
Wait, so your husband, ex-husband, he paid you alimony?
Yeah.
How much was he paying you?
Just $500 a month.
It was just my, I needed health insurance and all of my medical bills were like six grand a month without insurance.
Why did you, but you, did you, who initiated the divorce?
He did.
He did.
Is it typical to get alimony if you've only been dating less than a year?
Well, you can be married less than a year.
I think.
Can you speak to a closer?
Sorry.
You mean married less than a year?
Yeah, I thought it was typically alimony only kicks in.
Yeah, I don't know.
It was.
Wait, did you ask for the alimony?
I did.
I did.
was just like hey i need help it was not uh i was like so basically he we were living together He took, like, we lost our condo.
He took the dog.
He left, took all of his stuff while I was in the hospital and moved out and left.
Did you ask the court for alimony?
Was it like court-awarded alimony?
I think I just asked him and his lawyer.
I don't think it was.
And then they just agreed upon.
No.
Okay.
Sounds like a good guy.
No, and we're actually like really good friends now.
We're better like divorced than we were together.
Sure.
For you too on this, you said you believe age is just a number that you can connect with anyone.
You are currently dating someone 28 years your senior.
Yes.
And you're 20 or 31, so he is.
59.
59.
Okay.
Good times.
Yeah.
Good times.
We were like really close friends longer than, sorry.
We were really close friends for multiple years.
And like he was married, I was married.
We were always in relationships that weren't obviously together.
And then when and then when it came to being, we both were single at the same time and we both kind of just decided it made sense because we had been hanging out and close for so long that we thought we would give it a try romantically and it's been working.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good times.
Do any of you guys object to her age gap relationship?
Nothing or something.
Anybody?
No.
Anybody?
Bueller?
Okay.
Yeah.
You also said I think it's horrible that women sleep around like it's nothing.
I'm not a modest woman or a virgin, but I have standards and self-control.
I don't do one-night stands.
Okay.
You think it's horrible that women sleep around like it's nothing?
Yeah.
I feel like there's just lack of respect, like I said, towards the man and then also towards yourself.
But again, that's my opinion.
And I believe that everyone can do what they want, but I do find that I do believe that later in life, you guys might have problems or, you know, run into issues where you think you might, you know, I hope that you find somebody that is willing to love you and accept you for all of the things that you, all the decisions you have made in your life.
But in reality, I do side with Ryan and Jake that, you know, you are probably going to have a harder time than, let's say, her or myself or even you who choose not to put themselves out there in that way.
Now, granted, don't get me wrong.
I'm, I model on Instagram.
I do, like, take my clothes off, but I don't put myself fully out there.
I don't show my chest.
I don't show my, you know, private.
I'm, I do.
It's just like the, which is worse, strippers or OnlyFans girls.
It's like you're like swimsuit modeling on Instagram.
Like, like someone else that's more conservative might be like, that's, like, impure.
And I agree because, you know, there is a sense of modesty.
You know, like, I, to me, like, I feel like I can put myself out there in lingerie because to me, I feel like I can go to the beach and see the exact same thing.
I feel like I'm still keeping my social norms.
Well, no, it's, it's more like I'm still going to dance and see naked people.
I've been to a new beach, don't get me wrong.
I've been to a new beach.
Do you get paid for the modeling or do you just pay for it?
I have.
I have been paid for modeling.
Do you have any paid for it all?
Or do you just do it?
No, not all of it, but I have done charity work.
But in the beginning, I wasn't paid for it.
You did pay modeling?
Yeah, like for charity events.
I do a lot of car shows and stuff like that.
We do car dating.
Yeah, we do charity car shows.
So I'll do modeling for the car show for free, not charging.
But I do get paid.
People will do, like, private message me and be like, hey, I would like you to do this type of thing.
So you do have the shoes that you just do, where you just pay someone to take photos of you?
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody will pay, be like, hey, I want to see you in this outfit doing this type of modeling.
And then they'll get select photos.
That's what I do.
That's what I do.
I call them taking my clothes off.
I call that a custom.
I don't always have to take clothes.
It is, but it's a lot of fun.
It's a way they're comfortable with.
Established so so you do get paid by people to take photos that are like sort of sexually explicit.
No, no, I would not say that my photos are lingerie.
Yeah, lingerie thinks it's explicit.
But I'm not you get paid by who though?
Directly to the customer or like by an agency sometimes, yeah, both.
Sometimes I get paid, I get paid by an agency to go and do a shoot or go and walk a runway or whatever or go and work a car event.
But then I also have people that private message me that want me to model with their cars or do whatever, like with their car, motorcycle, sorry, boat, whatever it may be, and they pay me specifically to model.
But do you just do it like in your living room, just you in lingerie?
No, It's usually like public.
It's usually multiple people on a set.
It's all professional.
Normally with the theme of cars, that's pretty much always.
majority I do I do do some cosplay and stuff like that but I mean yeah majority cars that's just it's kind of the same thing it's kind of the same video It is.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I don't feel like you're judging them, but you're kind of doing the same thing.
It's a strippers versus OnlyFans.
It's because I'm comfortable being naked.
I think everyone should be free to make their own choices and stuff, but I think that it's not fair that you're judging them when you're kind of doing the same thing.
I mean, lawyered.
Because not all OnlyFans models do new things.
No, you can do one on OnlyFans.
More money than you do, but have a paywall behind it.
But the difference that I see is that I won't, like, once it's, I don't know how to do it.
Selling pictures of you in your underwear, you could put that on OnlyFans tomorrow, make more money.
There is a way to do it.
And it's the same thing that you were already doing.
It's a good point that you guys have gotten the sense that it is philosophically the same.
No, no, I agree.
But I think, like Brian said before, it's about perception as well.
And if somebody says, like, I'm a model for cars, it's much less of a red flag than it is to say I'm an OnlyFans model.
So she's spinning herself, right?
She's spinning and selling herself.
Well, it's like she's, you know, if you were to go on a date with a girl, right?
And a girl tells you, okay, yeah, I do OnlyFans.
Yeah.
That sounds bad, probably right, to most men.
It sounds like what it is.
Yeah.
But if she were to say, oh, yeah, somebody can private message me and I'll take private photos and lingerie for them and send it to them for money.
It will never be in my bedroom.
It just depends, though.
It's not like I'm taking selfies and sewing it to somebody.
I'm going on a set and shooting and I'm also posting those publicly.
And I'm also.
But how is that person using that photo?
Like where they use it.
And I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with what you're doing.
Absolutely by all means.
Like I think the, I think, you know, photos in lingerie is the most empowering, most like thing someone can do, right?
Boudoir photography is essential.
I think we were talking about it from the male perspective, though, in terms of like if it's a red flag or something.
You guys are having a discussion between yourselves and going, if I could finish my point.
Is it from the male perspective?
Yes.
That man.
You're going to tell me from the male perspective.
I'm saying the photo that's being taken is with that person's car, bike, motorcycle, which they think is their possession.
So having a beautiful woman dressed in lingerie next to a thing that brings them joy, that might sexually arouse them.
You don't know what they're using those photos for where that content's being posted.
So I'm saying from the general perspective, looking at what that person's using that photo for, it's relatively different.
Well, what I think, though, is there's probably still going to be plenty of men that would object to what definitely you're doing because there is to some degree immodesty in what you're doing.
However, well, I mean, if you're posing in like bikinis and stuff, like there's definitely conservative men that are going to be like, even like, you might not be nude, but it's just to some degree.
I would say that's like literally 5 to 10% of my photos.
All of my modeling photos, I'm genuinely fully clothed.
I would say I have a very, very small percentage.
It's lingerie.
I don't actually prefer to do that.
I don't really keep it private.
That's fine.
But what I would argue, though, the differential between what you do and OnlyFans, you are, there's like a different layer of separation because on OnlyFans, these men are then messaging you, and you are basically trying to like, okay, how can I message this guy to try to pull as much money from him as possible, whether that's through flirting, whether that's through like trying to get him to do it?
She's hitting her prices.
Yeah, but I have one set price.
It's not like they can pay.
She donated $100.
Let's not be silly, Red.
In the future, her kids will not be bullied or punch another kid because she has new photos all being run through or poll smoking sex sex online.
Damn.
It is a different one.
Thank you.
Having boy girl content online.
Oh, and I'm sorry.
What I was starting to say in regards to just a little bit of a message.
But yo, you've got to keep that there has been conservative gospel.
Also, I was picking up.
I just want to say something about grid one.
I just want to tell everybody: grid one, he like talks a big game, but he drives a Toyota the Prius, just saying.
Go ahead and look at it.
I was wondering what he drove.
Yeah.
Oh, what I was starting to say was.
I have set prices, but my price is, let's say, I'm just going to throw out my number.
My price is okay, it's $100 and you're going to get 10 pictures.
And that's it.
It's those pictures that I choose to give you.
It's not you choosing, hey, I want you to do this and this and this.
You don't know my model.
No, but I know that you see pictures of me in socks.
I would love to do that for you.
Here's 10 pictures for $100.
Yeah, but it's not.
How much?
But then you can peeper and say, don't people have conversations with you?
Don't people have conversations?
They can get to know you more.
They can have conversations with you all your lives.
That's based on your cup.
I run my page how I want to run my page.
If I don't want to have an in-depth, if I don't want to have an in-depth conversation with someone salsy, then I don't have an in-depth conversation.
Like, I run my page.
Jacama is how I'm most likely to be able to do it.
We must read this from Jacama.
Jacama has returned.
Okay, six-year marriage.
I kept my assets.
No alimony.
3K or something on my Amex, Utah.
He must have killed her.
Six-year marriage.
I must have caught a buddy.
3K or something on my.
Yo, shout out to all the women who've been in long marriages and get divorced and don't ask anything of the men.
Shout out to the queens.
Isn't Utah known for polygamy?
No, well, they're known for Mormonism.
Word.
Yo, Monas Jacama.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Okay, we have Stiffler here.
Ask everyone to write their looks on a scale of one to ten.
Okay, go.
I'd say like a seven or an eight.
Same.
Same.
Yeah, I'd say seven and a half or eight.
Yeah, seven point five.
Seven, seven.
Six.
Caigano.
Six.
Maybe hive-minded and say seven.
Woo.
You?
Seven.
Oh, six.
We are all the same guy.
You're crazy.
Come on.
So hot, we think we're so hot.
Okay, we have Laura.
Laura.
Laura, did I say right?
Yes.
Is there an N?
There's no N. You're not Lauren.
You're Laura.
Yes.
With an E. Nah.
Oh, with an A. Normal spelling.
Laura.
Laura.
I don't know why I'm saying that.
I was very happy.
You think a lot of millennial women were told you could do anything growing up, but in reality, that became into you should do everything, which helped many of us at work, but not in relationships.
Yeah, I think, because I'm in my 30s, right?
So a lot of us, I think, grew up with a lot of expectations from our parents.
And I see that playing out in the dating world where you might, as a woman, you're told you have to go to college, you have to get an advanced degree, you have to do all of these things.
And these are very masculine traits.
And when you go into the dating world, it's like you kind of realize that that's not what guys care about.
At all.
Yeah, exactly.
We don't care.
Yeah.
We don't.
So I see, you know, I've like I haven't been married, but I'm happy in my romantic life.
And I see some of my friends struggle who are similar to me where they have advanced degrees.
And I think they're like kind of spinning their wheels thinking that men are going to value them for their intelligence and their credentials and all this stuff.
And it's kind of the wrong way to go about it.
I think intelligence is something that can make a woman more attractive.
But when it comes to your career or finances, that doesn't really matter.
Yeah.
I know women too that I think they, and this is across the board, but it's like women will go into dates with like checklists and they like treat dates as like almost job interviews and stuff like that.
Oh, we have, there was that long checklist of places.
Can we put remember Nick?
Oh my gosh, the Cheesecake Factory.
The Cheesecake Factory thing.
Let's pull that up because it's kind of, oh, was it, oh, it's already.
Was it there already?
Here's a list of places women absolutely refuse to go on the first date to.
And thank you to the ladies who reached out to me to help me on my list.
Cheesecake Factory, Applebee's, Chili's, Chipotle, Olive Garden, the movies, your house, any fast food chain.
Buffalo Wild Wings, Wingstop, Red Lobster, a buffet, a buffet, IHOP, Denny's, the gym, church, Starbucks, coffee dates, ice cream dates, family functions, movie night, somewhere that requires a long drive, bowling nightclubs, hookah bar, a bar for just drinks, waffle house, sports offense.
Wow.
So when does that leave?
Question to the girls here.
Questions to the girls.
Is there any of the items on this list that you actually agree to?
Like, yeah, don't take me to Wing Set.
Some movies, because how do you get to know someone at the movies?
You're sitting in silence.
Single thing in churches.
Some of those are valid.
Some of those are definitely valid, I would say.
I'd say some of these things.
I think the long drive one, because what if you don't like that person and you're stuck on the street?
What's the language?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Here, let's transition into the after show.
So what we're going to do is the TTS is going to be, hold on.
We're going to transition to the after show.
TTS is going to be $69 and up for TTS.
And read is on Streamlabs and Super Chat.
It's going to be $20 and up.
So you can hit the lights, Nick.
Boom.
Oh, all right.
Okay, let's see.
It's okay.
Maybe we should turn those lights back on back there.
Maybe, should we?
Or is it fine?
Is it fine like this?
A lot Kiki up.
Yeah, I like it like this.
Do you like it better like this?
With a pink?
Yeah, with a pink.
Madison Jew.
Can you do it?
So what was I saying?
Here, I need to change a couple things here.
Mumble list.
In my, we're going to just go.
After show.
Yeah, so, okay, we'll just do $69 and up for TTS, $20 and up for read slash answer, whether that's through Streamlabs or through YouTube.
So if any of you want, you can get in your other things.
Let's see.
do we have here what do we have to uh What does what mean?
Get any other things.
Oh, like if somebody wants to get in like a super chat at the lower threshold.
Wait, what?
Penis?
What?
I thought you were talking about us.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, does anybody have a question?
something they'd like to get off their chest related to dating what do you look for in a that's a great question that's a great question Nick, could you pull up that video again?
Can you pull up that video, the bowing video?
This is what I look for.
You know, that's like part of the Asian culture.
That's just like something fake.
Hold on, let me answer her.
I want a pale Anglo-Saxon woman to bow for me.
She doesn't have to be Asian, but go ahead.
Go ahead, pull up the.
But when you go on a first date with someone, do you ask, are you willing to bow for me when I enter the room?
That's my first message.
Just when you saw it in the DMs.
Like, you don't even meet them in person yet.
What's that?
Like, that's just like a DM question.
Actually, I want somebody to demonstrate their bow for me.
Who we got?
Who's down?
I'm not bowing.
And honestly, I can see her.
Just watch the video and pretend she's bowing to you because I don't think anyone here's going to bow.
Go ahead.
Play the video.
This is what I want.
You asked me what I want.
This is what I want.
Look at that fucking bow.
Respect.
That's respect.
I thought it was like the deeper you go, the more respectful.
That is true.
The deeper you go.
The deeper you go.
I'm sorry.
I'm about to say it.
I'm like, wait, what?
Yeah.
This is great.
This is respect.
Yeah, eating your soda, your food and stuff in your mouth, too.
What's that?
Do you want her to chew your food for you and stuff in your mouth too?
That's just fucking haram.
Get the.
I'm just asking.
Abdul?
Yeah.
Get the rock.
Let's see the bow.
Look at the bow.
Just beautiful.
That's what.
You see, I want the attentiveness is what's really attractive.
But you're asking what I, who asked what I'm looking for?
Was that just like a general, what are you looking for, bro?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to date you.
Yeah, you're married.
Why does everyone have to make that so clear?
I brought it to you.
I mean, he asked me, like, why would you ask me what I was asking if that's it?
All right, so I'll tell you, like, let's start with the looks.
Let's start with the looks.
Race, any is fine, but I'd say I have a slight preference for white women or Asian women.
Slightly awkward Asian women.
Irresistible.
Irresistible to me.
So like a social awkward?
Yeah, she'd be like slightly shy, like kind of like shy, quiet.
Just sippy in the back and just sort of like that.
Okay.
Slight preference for petite, fun-size, short women.
It's always like fun size.
What's a number?
Put a number to that.
Just throw them around.
What's your height requirement, Brian?
Her height starts with four.
Oh.
Like 4'11 is pretty good.
It's always funny telling a woman who's like 5'2 that she's too tall for me.
How tall are you?
I'm 6'1.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I have no issue.
But here's the thing.
It's not a deal breaker.
Like, I'll date a girl who's taller than me.
I don't give a fuck.
Oh, no way.
Will you?
No way.
You wouldn't date a girl who's taller than you?
God, no.
No.
It's good.
It's good.
I'll date a.
It's definitely good for children.
She'll give you tall children.
Yeah, it didn't work.
I just reached out and kissed her.
Yeah, that sounds like you want to bend down.
Yeah, it's not good.
Yeah, or it's just like you could do the gangster thing is just don't kiss them.
Oh, yeah, true.
Okay, what's your age range?
How old are you if you don't remember?
34.
Okay, well.
I would date anywhere from 18 to 45.
Okay.
Previously married or having kids?
Strong, strong preference for no kids.
To the point where I don't want to say it's 100% a deal breaker, but it's like 90% deal breaker.
Like most of the time, it's going to become an issue.
What if they're divorced?
Is that possible?
Divorced?
I don't.
Divorced with no kids.
That's probably fine.
I mean, if there's other issues there, then it's a problem.
But if she's divorced and she's otherwise a perfectly pleasant person, don't care.
Would it be my preference that she wasn't previously divorced?
But it's not on a deal breaker.
Let's see.
What else looks-wise?
Strong preference, no plastic surgery, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.
Yeah, what about like career-wise?
Stay-at-home moments.
I'll get there.
When it comes to the whole plastic surgery thing, I think women are beautiful as they are without the need for undergoing dangerous, expensive, and unnecessary cosmetic surgery, which I honestly think makes women look worse.
So I'd much rather like give me a girl with an A-cup or who's totally flat over some big giant fake titties.
I'll take a little belly over lipo, small ass over a BBL, small upper lip over lip fillers.
Basically, take any woman who's had any of these procedures, however they were before, no matter how small her boobs were or whatever it was, I'd prefer them as they were.
Minimal makeup or no makeup.
I guess a little mascara eyeliner is fine.
Large labia, very important.
BLM.
Do you ask?
BLM.
Huh?
Do you ask?
Is that a preference?
Yeah, like first three questions.
I'd say it's tell me the.
If she turned around and asked you what your size was, would you share?
Yeah, sure.
I'd be like, yeah, it's average.
Average penis size.
But like if she asks for specifics.
Specifics?
Yeah, because what you think is average and what's average might not be the same thing.
I mean, if she asked, yeah, I'd probably tell her.
Okay, I was just wondering.
Like if you're asking, can she ask?
Type of thing.
Yeah, I don't give a fuck.
Okay.
I mean, if he's asking, I feel like at that point he's open.
Well, look, women are allowed to have penis size preference.
I have a labia preference.
Don't get a labia placey ladies.
I'll talk you out of it.
My DMs are open.
Let's see.
What else?
Slight preference for dark hair, but I don't really care.
I'll date the blonde.
Personality.
Blue-Basion.
What's that?
Blondesian.
It would be fun.
Well, I mean, like, I don't care about hair color, but a slight preference for darker hair.
Personality.
I have a list here.
I'm kind of reading off of that.
I'm reading off of something.
Well, I have a list because I got a lot of fucking, I got some notes here.
He knows what he wants.
Introverted women, quiet, calm, soft-spoken, maybe a little shy, a little nerdy.
Modesty is huge.
I don't like women with big egos who are super vain divas, that type of shit.
Girl who brings me peace, that's number one.
Doesn't quarrel, doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs.
Look, if she drinks a glass of wine, whatever.
But somebody, like when I say doesn't drink, somebody who drinks in moderation, because I rarely drink, so doesn't go to bars, doesn't go to clubs, low body count.
But the biggest thing is just peace.
Yeah.
Personality-wise, girl who brings you peace.
So, yeah.
Now, career-wise.
Oh, career-wise, do not give a fuck.
Don't care.
If you think she makes more than you, honestly, here's the thing: like, I would not care.
I wouldn't care if she makes more than me.
What I would potentially care about is perhaps the personality traits that might come with somebody who is career-oriented or who is hyper-successful.
So, if she's a super feminine, meets all these other things, but she, I don't, I don't know what career field she would be in, but if she makes a lot of, it's not about the money, it's the corresponding career-focusedness.
For example, like if I want her, if I want me to be more of a priority, that could be an issue.
If I want our potential kids to be more of a priority, because I'd, yeah, I'd be able to hold down the household on just my income.
So, fuck your $50,000 a year career.
Like, let's focus on our kids.
That's my view on it.
Do you think that your pool of women in the dating scene is smaller because of all of those preferences?
Almost everything I listed besides all the physical stuff, most of those are not deal breakers.
Although plastic surgery is pretty close to a deal breaker with me, but never say never, I guess.
But I typically find that that is no offense to those of you at the table who have plastic surgery.
That tends to be an indicator of some deficiency.
No offense.
So, yeah.
I mean, yeah, if you're enhancing something, you were lacking in it.
Well, I think I don't think it's, I think women with small breasts are beautiful.
That's in the same way that women with the large breasts are beautiful.
I don't think you're deficient if you have small breasts.
Right.
And that's to say that the person who's getting the breast enhancement isn't doing it for themselves and their own self-image instead of what you think.
Yo, Arissa, I see you in the chat.
What's up?
My DMs are open.
What?
Sorry.
What?
Well, what?
I'm not.
No, but like, what?
I'm saying, like, obviously, if someone's enhancing something, there is a deficiency there, right?
If someone's getting a boob job, it's because they had no boobs.
But I'm saying they're probably getting it for their own self-image and the way that they see and view themselves as opposed to to impress you or to not impress you.
Word?
Yes, that's good.
Word?
No, I mean, it could be an indicator of insecurity.
If you are insecure about the way your body is presenting, you're choosing to get a danger, undergo dangerous surgery anytime you go under anesthesia.
There's certain risks involved with that.
You're putting this foreign object into your body.
You can have a botched surgery.
You might need revision surgery.
I believe with breast implants, they are approved for what, 10 years, and then you need to either get them taken out or put back in.
My understanding is over the course of your lifetime, when it comes to breast implants, you're going to need to get it redone at least two or three times within your lifetime.
I think that's what I've heard.
I'm not right.
So, I mean, and then that's a financial liability on me as the like.
Frankly, like, I would not, even if I'm making a shit ton of money, like, that's a big waste of money to go.
I don't know how much it costs, what, $5,000, $10,000 for fake tits?
I don't, that's.
And if you have kids and you get that second or third surgery and you get an infection, you can get sick and die.
You could literally have to have them removed and then you're stuck without boobs anyways.
So it's a lot of risk.
Yeah, it's probably also proxy for body dysphoria.
Dysmorphia.
Yeah, it's probably proxy for...
I'm still stepping on the stage.
Wait, what?
To compete.
Like, I'm saying body dysmorphia.
Like, yes.
Like, being in the fitness industry and going to the gym causes body dysmorphia, and that's the most healthiest thing you can do for yourself.
So it's, you know.
I mean, I would just say to any young woman.
Oh, okay.
Hold on.
Raven DT donated $69.
Even modern saline implants are encased in silicone, which increases risk of cancer.
Look, I mean, ultimately, at the end of the day, when you're getting plastic surgery, you're cutting into otherwise healthy tissue.
So I just, you know, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
No offense to the girls here who have fake titties.
I'm not offended.
I still love you in a platonic, friendly business sort of way.
Let's see, what else?
I would just say, like, I think a lot of women feel insecure about their bodies.
And maybe some of that is on men.
Maybe some of that is on other women, looking at the Kardashians.
Just know that the majority of men would prefer you as you are without any of this bullshit stuff that companies and surgeons are trying to tell you you need to be beautiful.
So, you know.
Just don't get fake titties.
That's all I'm trying to say.
Don't get fake titties.
Don't get labia plasty, you know?
Sorry to the ladies at the table who have labia plasty.
Fake titties.
Would any of the girls date a guy who had calf implants?
No.
How would you, what would you say?
I would never get a plastic surgery on something that you can naturally enhance.
Like if you can go to the gym and you can train your calves and you can grow your calves, then why would you get plastic surgery?
Some surgery.
For a woman, if you can go to the gym and work out and train your glutes and your hamstrings and you can grow your why would you get a BBL?
Like that was, you know, I couldn't go to the gym and train chests.
Right.
Yeah, that's fair.
When it comes to like surgical intervention, there's nothing you can do in the gym to get bigger boobs as a girl.
But definitely with ass and you can just work for that.
Yeah.
So BBL, that's cheating.
That is cheating.
I'm so happy.
You have to work for the message.
Oh, my God.
I had to work for my survey today.
BBLs are really dangerous, too.
BBLs are like one in a thousand results in death.
So it's really high.
That's really high.
Well, Kanye West's mom, she was getting a plastic surgery procedure and she died because of it.
R.I.P. Kanye West's mom.
And she's going out of the country for it, too.
People go out of the country to get these surgeries.
Because they're cheaper.
Because it's cheaper without weighing the risks of recovery and stuff like that.
So it's just.
Well, they're getting the surgeries and then they're getting right back on a plane and then that's risk of blood clots and so many more complications.
Let me, I got to read a couple of the chats here.
We have.
Steve-O.
Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Is the black hair girl a guy?
Huh?
Why?
Because she said she was on HRT?
No, they're probably talking about me.
No, I know, but that's what I'm saying.
Because that's what I'm saying.
Why?
Because she said she was.
I thought you were a woman.
I am a woman.
Yeah, no, I know.
That's the.
I have a YouTube channel, like, fitness videos and stuff, and people will be like, are you a man?
And I'm just, I'm tall, and I work on it.
You're a tall woman.
So.
A tall woman.
Yeah.
Dear redhead.
Oh, no.
Can you read it for us?
I can try.
I need glasses.
Here.
Wait, would you?
You're an empty-headed narcissistic sociopathic borderline viewer.
Wow, that's a lot of buzzwords.
Okay.
Mockery of a woman.
Deep down, you will never be.
Wow, okay.
Okay, that's a little.
You hurt everyone you interact with.
You deserve the pain.
Wow, that is Australian.
Imagine spending $99 to insult someone you don't know.
Let me think about that.
That's a good way to spend $99.
Oh, there you go.
Brian, the top tree.
All right.
Okay, thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
I hate grid one motorsports.
Okay, can't let that pass.
I daily a Silverado, but have a Rocket Bunny FD in the fleet along with the race cars I kept.
No Prius.
No thanks.
Oh my gosh.
I'm actually building my Pandam R32 GTR, so I'm sorry.
Let's fucking go.
Hell yeah.
And I daily a right-hand drive Miata.
The guy in the black shirt probably knows the age of consent in every country he has been in.
Wait, what the fuck?
Oh, has he said it?
Oh, no.
I didn't know it, boy.
There just wasn't anything.
I'm glad you're here.
I didn't rate it.
Has he said anything that men want that does not better describe a person under the underground?
Don't take it personally.
No, he's talking about me.
He's saying I'm sure apparently the things that I'm doing.
Because you travel.
Because you're travel based on saying that you sleep around with travel and you know the age of consent in every country because things that you do are kind of sketchy.
Okay.
Who's next?
We have stochastic decay.
Brian, a question for the panel.
What are green flag hobbies for a guy?
Start with you.
Just a question for the panel.
Green flag hobbies.
I would say gaming is not a red flag for me.
Like hiking, being active.
What about you?
Yeah.
Green flag.
Man, are you the same guy?
A lot of that.
I like art a lot.
I like musicians, people that paint.
I paint a lot, so it's fun.
Yeah.
Gosh.
What are green flag hobbies for a guy?
Cars, like working on cars.
Okay.
I like that.
I think there's a lot of them.
Anything active, so gym, outdoors activities, anything with your hands, like carpentry, building computer servers, personal finance, reading.
Those are all.
Wait, question for you unrelated to this.
We'll go around the, we'll finish around the panel.
Can we see a tricep?
Sure.
Can we see a try?
Flock.
Iron.
That is a woman's tricep, okay?
How dare you, whoever senses it that previously?
Like, I'm just naturally, I have a faster metabolism, so I stay leaning on not computer.
Burnt ups donated $69.
Hey, Brian, big fan from Alaska.
Have you heard from Chase lately?
Slash plan to have him back.
Shout out to the best side of the panel, hashtag Christ is Lord.
Hey, yeah, actually, I think we're going to have him back on pretty soon.
So it's in the works.
I think he's in discussions, but I think we will have him back on pretty soon.
And I think he will be coming on pretty regularly, but we're still figuring out all the details.
So stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Thank you, man.
Question for you: Do you need a data guy who's like really buff, or do you not really care?
Okay.
No, I'm much more about personality and just who someone is.
Because I always figured with like women who work out that they probably especially want a guy who's like big or muscular or whatever.
But is that the case?
No, because I'm more of a nerd.
So before I was a fitness coach, I worked in engineering.
Okay.
I was a project manager in grad school, all that.
Engineer?
A geologist, actually.
But I graduated from this department of civil engineering where I went to school.
Dope.
Yeah.
Green flag hobbies for a guy.
What about you?
A guy who can cook.
That's a big one.
A guy who loves God.
And the third one is got to be if they like the way they respect their parents.
Like if they're really respectful for their parents, especially their mom.
So green flag hobbies.
Oh, hobbies.
I don't know if that's a hobby.
Like they collect Pokemon cards.
That's a great trait.
Yeah, I love video games.
What about you?
Just being active and, you know, how, like, I don't know.
I feel like anything that shows stability, like that they can, you know, afford to have a hobby and pay their bills.
So anything that's along those lines.
I agree with you.
And also anything with sport or nature or related to fixing things or being clever or art craft.
Okay.
What would you say are green flag hobbies for women for green flag hobbies for women?
Reading books.
Definitely.
Hmm.
Studying.
I don't think women should have hobbies.
No, I'm kidding.
Taking care of the household.
Green flag hobbies in women.
Oh, man.
That's a tough one.
Green flag hobbies.
I think you and I are a bit different like this in the sense that I really like smart girls, whereas you're not so bothered about it.
No, he likes nerdy.
He said he'd like quiet nerdy all the time.
No, I like smart girls, but I also like stupid women too.
No, no, just like there is something kind of hot about a dole.
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attractive women are hot too oh my god what Love you, baby.
Guess who tell us?
What?
Okay.
That was your boyfriend.
That's the situation shit.
That's the situation shit.
That's funny, me.
Finally me.
Ray DT donated $69.
Thank you, Brian.
What about guys who like to spend their money on super chats?
Smiley.
Okay, we can go around that.
Would you date a man who legally owned firearms?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yep, I own firearms.
Yeah.
Okay.
I would actually prefer it.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Let me get through these other chats here.
Nickelodeon is about to come up here in just a sec.
Nickelodeon says, Ginger, why is everything about sex?
Because that's what men think about.
Why do women expect men to think like them?
That's naive.
I haven't saved Brian's life, but I've almost made him say the N-word.
Oh, God.
Okay.
All right.
He actually did almost trick me into saying it.
It's a long story.
It's so scary as a streamer because you're just reading.
Yeah, I just read it.
I always read stuff in my mind first, like in my head, and then I say it out loud because I'm always like, is this to get me to say something I probably shouldn't?
This is you maxually blah, blah, blah.
Brian, it's time to mix up your wardrobe.
Wear something other than your black shirt and the fannel.
Look, I keep it simple.
Not throwing a vague.
Are you ever going to tell the story behind the seven?
Yeah.
I'm also curious.
Yeah.
Maybe someday, but not tonight.
What?
Ed Carter, F that Bible bashing Ned Flanders.
What?
Who's Ned Flanders?
Me?
What?
What?
Am I Ned Flanders?
Are you Ned Flanders?
I'm Blackboard.
No one's Ned Flanders.
We have Stochastic Decay.
Hey, Brian, sorry I'm late.
Question for China.
What type of gear are you on?
D-Balltrend, Winnie, NVR, and Adrol.
Oh, gosh.
I'm not on any of those.
Which so HRT is hormone replacement therapy.
So just like men, if you have low testosterone as a woman and you're the right age and it makes sense for your health, you can get that prescribed from a doctor.
So that's what I'm taking.
Is it like progesterone?
No, it's testosterone.
Oh, it is testosterone.
Testosterone.
Yeah, that's what hormone replacement therapy is.
Well, I wasn't sure if you were like taking hormones for like estrogen because I know some like I was actually taking estrogen.
Estrogen would be like birth control.
No, I was actually prescribed estrogen while I was on the child drug because it actually reduced my estrogen level.
So hormonal birth control is also usually estrogen or progesterone.
Yeah.
Let's see.
We have a couple chats here from Seaberg.
Brian, I think your dream girl works at Chick-fil-A.
Funny story.
I actually dated a girl for two years and at least when I had met her, she was working at Chick-fil-A.
So I dated a girl for two years.
She worked at Chick-fil-A.
Did you get free Chick-fil-A?
Once, maybe.
I think she brought it home, but I think they don't, they don't just get free.
It's an interesting thing.
I mean, I sort of brought Charlie.
Chick-fil-A is bomb, though.
It was.
I don't know.
Jenny, Jeremy, from right to left, 854510.
Not gonna lie, Laura is hot as AF.
I let her punch me in the face.
10, 6, 8, 10.
Wait, from right to left?
Right?
We are right.
Oh, oh, oh.
Stop so discreet.
Wait, 8.54510.
10, 6, 8.
10?
Okay, Jeremy.
All right.
Laura, can I set you up with Jeremy?
Sure, yeah.
She calls you a 10.
Do you want to get punched in the face?
Would you punch him in the face?
Like, would you?
I've never actually punched anyone.
Oh.
Really?
But I have been told I would do well in the WWE or something, so maybe that'll be after.
Okay.
All right.
It's in the works.
It's in the works.
What else do we have?
Hmm, let's see.
Sugar daddies.
Oh.
Sugar.
What the?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll read that later.
Who here has had a sugar daddy?
And we'll go around the table, have you?
No.
Kind of?
Yeah.
Sugar daddy?
No.
Would anybody here be a sugar mama?
Sometimes I feel like it in my relationships.
What?
You feel like it?
Sometimes.
Also.
Are you a high earner?
I do good.
Because I've definitely heard from some OnlyFans girls is in a relationship, because they do OnlyFans, because they're involved in sex work, they feel like they have to almost make up for it in a way.
And they'll typically make up for it by more so than the average girl, more so than like the general population of women.
They'll like buy a lot of gifts, they'll provide, they'll pay for dates, that sort of thing.
I don't think I do that because of OnlyFans shame, more because it's easier for me to do it for my friends and the people that I love.
And I know it'd be harder for them to get dinner than for me to get dinner.
Gotcha.
Okay, fair enough.
So sugar daddies, would you be a sugar mama to somebody?
No, I've dated guys in the past where that kind of became the dynamic and I really didn't like it.
You didn't like it?
I've realized over time dating, because I have master's degrees.
I was a six-figure earner starting in my 20s, right?
Yeah.
That tends to attract a type of male that's a little bit more like, I don't want to use this word, but like more just like beta or like feminine energy, right?
They want to refer to me.
Right.
Yeah.
And I didn't like that.
So I've been in a couple relationships where that kind of became the pattern and I just it doesn't work.
And would you prefer the guy to be a bit more dominant?
Yes.
You want the guy to be the leader in the relationship?
Do you want to arm wrestle right now?
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Are you down?
If we can get how much do you want to set the price for like a.
Sorry, my shoulder's kind of bumpy.
I'm right-handed.
I'm a lefty.
Oh, okay.
That's okay.
That would have been a shot out.
I know.
Where's the super chat leaf?
So you said you had a sugar daddy.
You were kind of like sort of ish.
Was your sugar daddy while you were in college?
Yeah.
Back in college?
How old were you when you had your sugar daddy?
19, I think.
Have you had multiple sugar daddies?
Really one consistent one.
Like, I was on seeking.
Oh, you got on seeking, okay.
Yeah.
So you were 19.
What was the arrangement?
It was like, I don't know, like coffee day, 200 bucks, his house, 200 bucks, depending on what we did.
Wait, 200 bucks for a coffee date?
Yeah.
And then 200 bucks.
It's like $200 per meeting, but more if we did more.
How much?
I never did more.
You never did more?
No.
But you said you'd meet at his house too sometimes?
Yeah, like he would wine and dine me or chat for $200.
So did you kiss him?
Yeah.
Did you charge for the kiss?
No.
Maybe I should have.
It was included.
It was included.
It was a package.
I think he got that.
Got it.
Yeah.
It was hard.
Is that the furthest?
Yeah, sing the D?
No.
No Sing the D. Like, tried, and he could tell I was not into it.
He tried.
He tried.
He offered?
Did he offer?
Was there a negotiation?
$500.
No, he was just like, you don't want to do this.
I was like, I don't want to do this.
And he was like, okay, here's your money.
Go home.
And I went home.
Was he like a much older guy?
Not like mid-40s, late 40s.
Mid-40s, okay.
I don't get what these guys, because a lot of these like sugar daddy, like the girls never end up fucking the, so I just don't get what the dudes are, what's the point?
He's lonely.
Yeah, say it's someone who works, you know, crazy hours and they don't have the ability to be out on the dating scene or go somewhere where they would meet someone.
So they, you know, use this arrangement to meet someone, have someone to talk to.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
If you say so.
You had a sugar daddy?
Kinda.
How much?
How much total do you think he paid you total?
She doesn't want to.
What about you?
This one guy, how many total meetups do you think there were?
Not many.
How many total?
He lived like an hour away.
So like five.
Five?
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
We have, hold on, I'm just going to read this.
Okay.
Zay VR, BLM is a scam.
Go sub to PragerU.
Bring back Deborah Lay.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, I need to DM her.
Pink Friday, two by Nikki Minaj.
What the?
Cardi B belongs.
Wait, did it come up?
Did it go away already?
It did, really.
CJ Pearson for president.
Miss Caden is the main character and a skinny legend, City Boys.
We up.
We have Brandon Mel.
I love Prigger You.
I think I'm in love with Anya.
Brian, tell her about the time I saved you from that wild chimpanzee.
So yes, Anya, Brandon did save me from a wild chimpanzee.
We're at the Santa Barbara Zoo and somehow it got out of its enclosure and it just started like, it was fucking, and people bring their dogs to the zoo and say, so the chimpanzee started chasing after dogs, trying to fuck up dogs and shit.
The dogs were barking.
I was there.
The chimpanzee saw me, came towards me, and then Brandon stepped in front of me.
Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z?
You know how Piccolo gets in front, like in the very first few episodes?
Piccolo blocks Goku from the attack from Raditz, right?
Is that wait?
Was it Piccolo?
Chat, confirmer.
Piccolo blocked Goku from the Raditz attack.
Was it Raditz?
Wait.
Chat, can you help me out here?
Wait, chat, Was it the Piccolo?
Chat, hello?
Help me out here, guys.
Was it, it was, no.
Hold on.
No, Piccolo got, it was the very first few episodes.
No, no, no.
Not Napa and Gohan.
No, guys.
That's like way into the Saiyan saga.
It's way into the same saga.
I'm pretty sure Piccolo sacrificed himself to protect Goku.
Am I wrong?
They're saying yes.
Piccolo stopped and that was.
No, but somebody, Goku held radits.
Oh, wait, Goku.
Wait, Goku.
Oh, wait.
Hold on.
Am I fucking the shit up?
What was it?
Okay, I don't know.
In any case, Brandon Mels protected me like it was Dragon Ball Z, took the beam for me, boom, got in the way of the fucking chimpanzee, started fucking that chimpanzee up like boom, boom, like animal abuse shit, right?
Fucked up the chimpanzee.
It was a wild chimpanzee, right?
Well, not wild, but it was acting wild.
Would you date Brandon?
I need to know more about him.
Brandon, she's got to know more.
You got to send some details.
Brandon, send some details.
I'll put them in the chat.
How do you treat your parents?
Yeah, what was the third one?
Gaming Christ.
Gaming.
Any relationship with God?
So we got this one.
Jay Lyon, 86.
Around the table, someone is breaking into your house.
Should your husband wait for the intruder to delete you or him or wait to find out?
Bro, can you please is actually your what?
Hello?
This doesn't, bro.
Is actually your future child one day sneaking back in the house before he deletes the person?
What?
I don't understand this whole screen.
Wait for the intruder.
Nobody's asking what we would do.
What we want our husband to do if there's a huge difference.
No, He's saying, if there's an intruder in the house, are you going to kill them straight away or are you going to wait to see if it's your child that snuck out and come back in?
Okay, well, first of all, if you're a gun owner, you know that if you are in a certain situation, you can't just shoot.
So if they're a gun owner and a smart one at that, and yeah, there's some guidelines that they follow before just deleting somebody.
Yeah.
Good times.
We don't get guns in Australia.
You guys are more badass than I'm going to do.
We have Vladdy Daddy.
What is the general roundtable perception of a good-looking 8 to 9 man with an extremely low to no body count who isn't interested in sex without romance?
Also, would anyone consider it acceptable to lie in order to date said man?
Yeah.
I don't really.
That's a lot to your pursuit of that.
Who is interested in sex without room?
We can typically only do like one question per chat.
So would you anyone consider it acceptable to lie in order to date said man?
Would you lie about here?
I'm just going to have to improvise on this.
Would you lie about your body count to a really attractive guy that you really like?
No, because if you don't like me for me, then why am I going to be with you?
I might fabricate it.
Jesus.
Oh!
No, and I don't feel like I have anything to hide from my partner.
Nothing to hide.
I wouldn't lie.
But he shouldn't know.
I think, you know, it would be in his mind.
It would burn in his mind and it would cause trouble in the future.
So it's better to keep like, yeah, you have, I don't know.
For example, if it's a red flag to have sex with a married person, ask it, did you have sex with someone married?
Yes or no?
And that's all.
Not the numbers.
We have Brandon Mels here.
Boy, I've been on You Know Me.
Yeah, he's been on the show before.
He has black hair.
He has black hair.
He's got dark hair.
Memorable.
It's old.
I love that person.
I made a really impression.
He's a nice guy.
He's got great hair.
Did I mention his hair?
Fantastic hair.
His hair is really nice.
If you like men with nice hair, he's your guy.
Speaking of body count, should body count matter?
Boom.
On which side?
Like, either way.
No.
Here, how about this?
Do you object to men caring about women's body count?
I mean, I think everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Same.
What about?
Sorry.
But the body counts.
Really?
Yeah.
You don't think anything about it?
Come on.
You don't know what you're saying.
Tell us how you did.
Tell us how you really feel.
I've been talking a lot.
You're right.
Moving on.
Go ahead.
Right.
Just kidding.
Go ahead.
Say your speech.
I don't know.
It doesn't really matter.
There's only been one time when I've dated a guy where it kind of mattered because he told me he was a sex addict.
And I was like, and I was like, that's not like a great way to start off, but he was so cool.
Words.
If he cares about your body count, right?
That was a question.
Do you care if he cares about it?
Do I care if a guy cares about my body count?
I think it's weird.
If you have a big body count and they're really not into that, then that's fair, whatever.
don't have to be into me um but you don't gotta be What's a big body count, do you reckon?
Well, hers was 15.
That was surprising.
She said it.
I must have been in the toilet.
Yeah, she said like a big body count.
I'll be 15.
I would probably say like over like 30.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a big, that's a big one.
That's a big body count.
But like not crazy.
For a girl, it's pretty crazy.
I'm just saying in general, like the guy that I was seeing had 80.
And I was like.
A guy you were saying?
The guy that I was like the one person I've ever been like, mmm.
He told me he was a sex addict and had 80.
And I was like, do I care?
Okay, moving on, one by you.
Same.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Yeah.
Like, if they care, they care.
But if they care about my body count, then I'm going to be like, sorry to disappoint, you know?
Like, I don't know.
Like, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Fair.
What about you?
I think everyone's entitled to their preferences.
At the same time, I feel like it doesn't come up that much after a certain age.
I don't think I've ever really had partners ask me that question.
Would you be offended if a guy asked you what your body count was?
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
I mean, yeah, I guess entitled to their own opinion.
But I mean, I could see why they would care.
Like, I could see why they care.
Yeah, I believe everyone can have their own opinion, but I do think that it does affect your relationship with that person.
I think that if they know, like you said, it kind of gets burned in their brain and then they'll start comparing themselves.
True.
It's just hard.
Yeah.
I think before marriage, you shouldn't even have one person.
So if you already had one, it's more than enough.
But if God has forgiven, let's move on.
Have you had one?
Yeah, Get the rocks.
Abdul!
Yeah, get the rocks.
Get the rocks.
I'm just kidding.
I'm not proud about that.
I'm not.
It's okay.
It's people have sex.
What is it?
With your current guy, I think you said you're waiting, right?
With your new guy?
He's Christian.
He's Christian?
Is he a virgin?
I get that.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
It's been one week, to be fair.
Yeah.
Just one week.
But it is your boyfriend.
But you know, if God forgave him, there's nothing I can bring against him.
Conversation hasn't come up though?
He hasn't told you about his past?
No, You guys haven't had the birds and the bays talk?
Not yet.
Thank you.
Okay.
I ask this every show because why not?
What's everyone's body count?
Go ahead.
Nine.
Nine?
Eleven.
I literally don't know.
It's like 20-something.
20-something?
Yeah.
2029?
Maybe.
I'd say like one.
Well, wait.
You've been dating.
You said you've been kind of dating a guy for like four years, right?
In that time period, I forgot if you've already – have you seen other guys in that time period?
The first time we broke up.
First time we broke up?
Yeah.
Okay.
This is mostly college, you'd think.
Like the body.
Yeah.
During college.
College, yeah.
College.
Early college.
College.
I was a small town girl.
Small town girl.
Big university.
Big university.
Sorority.
Alpha.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
It happens.
It happens.
One thing, one day you're a small town girl.
Living in a lonely world?
Half the, you said D1?
D1 athletes.
Baseball team?
No.
No.
I knew a girl who slept with the entire men's football team.
That's a lot.
I mean, college ball teams are big.
They're big, yeah.
They're second string.
Like, literally.
Third string.
Some people are red shirting quarterbacks and shit.
Seriously.
Nicholas knows all about that.
Right, Nick?
Okay, never mind.
He was a red shirt quarterback.
So he was on the list.
Nicholas, before he took an arrow to the knee, was going to be a quarter.
He was going to go play college ball.
Wow.
But now he's working the whatever pockets.
He's in the whatever dungeon.
I keep him in the whatever dungeon.
He's really loud on his face there.
Body count?
I prefer not to answer.
Range?
Length.
Less than 10.
Okay.
Zero.
Like I said, I don't save myself from marriage.
So seven.
Range?
Less than 10?
More than 10?
Less than 10, of course.
Of course.
I mean, I don't know if it's, of course, but Zero.
No, come on.
Before you became a born-again virgin.
Born again, bro.
I'm born again.
After Thailand, I was born again then.
Oh, you were.
Hold on, where is that?
She's a good one.
Oh, wait.
Never mind.
I had a public for it, but that's too much.
The moments pass.
I don't reveal my body count.
Just ask everybody else.
No, I do not reveal my body count.
I guess.
Okay, I'm not going to tell you, but you can guess.
Will you give me a wink if I get close?
Nope.
Okay.
Same numbers.
I'm like phasing it in.
I'm going to say like seven.
Seven people.
Seven.
Seven.
Okay.
Cool.
Okay.
Good guess.
You got to give me like a.
I can.
All right, we have.
Yo, Seeberg.
Mars, it seems to me that you have a really great personality.
Thank you.
You have a soft and nurturing demeanor.
Seems like you would make a great wife and mother.
Instant gratification can get in the way of our long-term happiness, purpose.
Easy now, hard later.
Your response, Mars?
That was a nice way to put your opinion.
I'll keep it in here.
Thank you.
I mean, it seemed fairly complimentary.
So that was a very nice thing.
So much better than the last one.
Oh, my God.
Now, before I wrap up here, any final thoughts?
Speak now or forever hold your peace.
If you have a final thought.
I've got a question for you over here.
Being a young Christian conservative virgin, you and your friends, you're all in that sort of ilk.
What are you guys looking for in a guy and what are the disqualifiers?
If a man was a man who were in a past life, is he just disqualified?
I mean, if obviously he, like, I do believe in forgiveness, and I try not to be judgmental, so obviously, like, if he does turn his life around and he gets baptized, whatever, then I will accept him.
Like, he doesn't have to be a virgin, but again, I'd rather be with somebody who has the Christian morals.
And all your friends are.
Sorry, along the same line?
Yeah.
I was just dipping my toes in the water.
Maybe I have to go all the way up and get baptized.
Anything from anybody else?
Come on.
Hungarian dating.
What's it like in Hungary?
How's it like in Hungary?
good yeah it's different but i've always wanted a day to hungary You shouldn't believe in the news, I guess.
You should keep in the rabbit hole and listen to Prigger You and everything.
We are so conservative.
I think we are light in Europe in a lot of ways.
So, yeah.
Yep.
Budapest is a great spirituality.
Thank you for having me.
Okay.
Are the men better than the people?
Budapest is the capital of Hungary.
I spend a favorite time that is.
Do they treat you better here?
Yeah, American men, you prefer the American.
This guy.
This guy is good.
This guy.
This guy specifically.
This guy.
Okay.
Anything?
I just want to say this was really fun.
Yeah, really fun.
Yeah.
I got a little bit of a turn.
I got roasted a couple times, but I had it.
I did it all in good fun.
We made fun of each other.
Yeah.
I think y'all have a good time.
I appreciate it.
We actually get along really well normally with the spiritual sort of talks.
Normally I have really robust conversations with them.
So we'll call it that.
Are you calling me spiritual?
Yeah, you're one of the spiritual talks.
Hold on.
She's one of the spears.
We're talking home tonight and I'm going to be able to do it.
Kumbaya belly dancing.
You definitely tried the fire sticks in Thailand.
I'm a little late to sage to clean this energy.
Just aligning the chakras and stuff.
Sick.
I'm going to rub it like you guys like it.
What?
What?
That crazy dancing making my penis off.
You have such a crazy soundboard.
My soundboard is lit.
Okay.
All right, let's see.
Oh, Twitch.
We got a shout out.
Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drop us a follow.
Drop us a prime sub if you're watching over there.
I'm a Korean.
Thank you for the prime, buddy.
Much appreciated.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Let's see.
We're caught up on chats.
Okay, we have this last chat here.
Whoops.
Yo, Nico, Brian, great show.
Well-diversified panel.
Jake was a great voice of reason for these girls.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Yeah, Jake was awesome.
His second time on the show.
Always happy to have him.
I appreciate you being level-headed and not shoving your opinions down people's throats.
Thank you.
I thought I was getting too shovy at Tom.
I mean, like, you were strong in your opinion, but not strong to where it was like, let me convert your thoughts because my way is the only way.
I feel like that happens.
I mean, his way is kind of the only way.
I feel like we all look at it.
Jake's weight is kind of the only way.
Let's be real.
If you watch my channel, it's the only way.
You said rattlesnake.
Rattlesnake, rattlesnake, what is that?
No, it's normally on it, it errs on the conservative side of political and social commentary, but I also commentate on a lot of geopolitics as well.
I did a little bit of hungry.
I'm gonna check you.
Yeah, I'm gonna.
And yeah, so I talk about a lot of things, a little bit about like dating and masculinity and feminism, which is the bane of my existence.
Talk about a lot of different things.
It's the bane of geopolitics.
It's the bane of his existence.
How does that make you feel?
How does that make you guys feel?
I'm not a feminist.
Does it make you feel good?
Do you agree with that?
Do you disagree?
Are you a feminist?
Or are you super-based?
True, sounds good.
No, I would say I'm feminist in that I believe in equality of opportunity.
The way feminism has been interpreted and is applied now, no.
I can say that, yeah, it's a very toxic ideology now.
It's always been very toxic.
There's a false notion that feminism used to be great when really the roots of feminism are actually very Marxist in their origin and it's all about power and oppression and seeing the world in a victim versus oppressor structure.
If you read the early Marxist, do you guys know like Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels?
If you read that early work, it's very like seeing pitting men and women against each other.
And the early feminists are all about destroying the nuclear family.
And it's toxic.
Toxic.
Society destroying perverse stuff.
Word.
Word.
Yeah.
Yay.
Oh, last thing.
Before our last show, our last show, you had a quarrel with me because I edited the thumbnail.
I did a little touch-up on your photo, and you did not like that.
You didn't like that.
It's not that I didn't not like it.
I was just wondering if you were being a little clickbaity.
Clickbaity?
What do you mean?
He like over-edited the photo, like my thumbnail.
No, it was pretty tame.
You know what's funny?
I've done a bunch of podcasts on my channel.
And the one time I interviewed a girl was the one time I ever got in trouble for a thumbnail.
She emailed me, change the thumbnail.
Oh, my God.
I didn't care.
I was really just like, it was trolling you to be funny.
I wasn't upset.
Is that why the caption in this one was back for a while?
I saved it for the very end of the podcast.
But yeah, oh, no.
I wasn't actually mad.
Oh, yeah, no.
I wasn't actually mad.
I just thought it was a good thing.
I thought there was going to be a bit of beef.
I was in the company.
It was like a little.
I was wondering.
I read that and I was like, who's coming?
I was like, is that me?
It's you.
Okay.
Exactly.
You're the drama.
Am I the drama?
You are the drama.
I mean, you know, but I forgot.
It seemed like you were a little hurt.
Oh, my God.
No, not at all.
On the last video.
I'm not easily offended.
So I think I was just trying to troll you.
That's good.
Because I know that's your mom.
Don't walk it back.
Come on.
Come on.
Don't walk it back.
You were upset.
I really wasn't.
You were upset.
Honestly, I really wasn't.
Oh, okay.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Because, I mean, you link my Instagram anyway, so if someone goes to my Instagram, they can see what the actual photo looks like.
It's really not the biggest thing.
I think I removed a mole or two.
I think that's literally multiple freckles.
I removed my face.
I got so offended when someone removed my freckles.
I'm like, I like my freckles.
I'm anti-freckles.
Really?
In my.
Yeah.
I have freckles in weird places.
I have freckles.
I have freckles.
I literally have freckles.
I have like freckles in my armpit.
I have freckles if I need to.
What if a girl has freckles on her labia?
What's that?
What if a girl has freckles on her labia?
That's fine.
That's fine.
Do you have freckles on your labia?
I'm a mole.
I was like, I've never even seen labier for so much.
I'm very curious now.
I would like to see.
On labias?
No, on body parts.
I have strong opinions on body parts.
So I'm just Freckles?
Is it like super cool?
I'm just when it's not like, okay, if I'm dating a girl and she has freckles, that's fine.
But like when it comes to the editorial, the final product of the image for the thumbnail, goodbye freckles.
That's why I never make it on.
I'm not gonna have a thumbnail.
You're gonna get the hot mums on there.
Okay.
Don't have anything else.
Do you want to talk more about labia?
Because I can talk about labia.
I will talk about labia all fast.
You know what?
What is your thoughts on Instagram Reels?
This see-through dress trend.
Love it.
What?
Love it.
Oh, my God.
See-through dress trend on Instagram where people literally put lunch meat in their hands.
Some people over-exaggerate it.
Really?
Oh my god.
Yeah, you've never seen that?
Are you seeing like the kind of sheer?
The girls that were this, they were like sheer dresses.
They stand with their legs spread, and there's light coming in from the back, so you can see everything that is there.
But some people overexaggerate it and literally put something in the middle of the game.
Are you legitimately a fan of big labia?
Yes.
Are you traveling about odds?
No, I'm 100% serious.
Yeah?
100% serious.
Okay.
I like innies are cool too, but like Audis.
What's up?
Yeah.
DMs are open.
This is the first time my feelings have been hurt this entire podcast.
Oh, why?
Because you haven't.
I don't like anyone out there for you.
No, it's not that I. Innies are good.
Innies are good.
Don't get me wrong.
It's not like I wouldn't date a girl who has an innie, but if she's got an Audi.
What is the finger guns?
Got it.
And on that note.
Hit me up.
There's definitely, I've seen some of that shit you're talking about, the girls who like.
It's wild.
I'm surprised that's not TOS.
I'm surprised that's not like.
It blows my mind.
Like leave something for the imagination.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I will say that.
I've invited them on the show and I've not heard back.
So I'm trying to.
And you're like an advocate for them as well.
I am an advocate.
I'm the trailblazer when it comes to this labia, big labia movement.
And I wish I had, I was a bit more recognized for what I have done for this community.
For the community.
444 followers, exactly.
Yeah, that's, isn't that good?
I don't know what it means.
Yeah.
It means that that's good luck that the girl's going to respond to you now.
We're caught up on chats.
Okay, cool.
Wrapping up here.
Guys, oh, Audi Labia equals lips that grip.
That is facts.
That is facts.
Raven DT.
Yeah, word.
Anyways, 07's in the chat.
Last call.
Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
Thank you to the wonderful panel.
Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
We will be live again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
We have a very good show planned, some good guests coming.
It's going to be a Halloween show.
So if you want to see Maddie, what are you wearing, Maddie, for that one?
What are you wearing?
I don't know.
Oh, don't spoil it, dog.
Don't spoil it.
Oh, that's true.
I know.
Anyways, guys, Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
Be sure to tune in.
We will see you next time.
07's in the chat.
Good night, guys.
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