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Oct. 23, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Addressing DRAMA! Exposing FLAKES! Timcast Mary, Violet, +7 Girls! | Dating Talk #111

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	Before I have the guests introduce themselves, just a couple things I'd like to address here really quick.
	The first thing is, where do I start?
	We had eight flakes today.
	So, and I'm trying to recall how much it was exactly.
	Most of them were with 24 hours.
	Four of them, it was like a group of four.
	I don't think I should book that many people at the same time, like two minimum, two minimum, bailed like an hour at like 3 p.m. or something.
	So I had to send Nick and Maddie down to the mean streets of Isla Vista and try to corral some people.
	And Maddie was able to get her.
	So, okay, there you go.
	So, yeah, they went to the very dangerous streets.
	It's like warfare down there, people are, so you're very brave.
	And she's got a soldier helmet too.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, so we'll get into it.
	So, the first one, Nick, if you can pull up the lip filler excuse.
	Guys, this happens every show.
	I don't like the ridiculous excuses these people come up with to cancel on the show.
	So, hey, I can't make it because my lips are bruised up from my lip fillers.
	And then she sent another one to double down.
	I could barely talk.
	It's really swollen.
	We're going to have to reschedule lol.
	I don't want to look crazy on a show.
	And my brother passed away today, too.
	I don't know if I believe that one.
	It's kind of like my dog ate my homework type thing.
	Not a good day for me.
	So, you know, first it was the lip filler.
	I feel like a lip filler is a bigger problem than her brother dying.
	And that was the first excuse she brought up.
	Like, I would feel like that.
	I guess y'all weren't close.
	I would assume that would be like the go-to my brother passed.
	But first, let me just tell you about my lip filler.
	Okay.
	And then, Nick.
	We have the other ones.
	So this is Gabby.
	And the text up there that I blocked out, she sent that at 11 a.m. today.
	Hey, can I bring blank and blank?
	They are, well, okay.
	She wanted to bring her two male friends.
	I said, unfortunately, we're like fully booked up on the panel.
	See all four of you at four today.
	So at 11 a.m., she's asking to be on the show.
	Conveniently, somehow a little bit later, she says she's in the ER right now.
	So we actually won't be able to make it at four.
	Sorry.
	We, by the way, not just me, but all my friends can't make it because I am in the ER.
	Just me.
	Next slide, please.
	So this is her other friends because we were DMing all of them.
	And so I asked her, are you not coming?
	I have no idea.
	Gabby's in the ER.
	Are you with her?
	Yeah, she got hurt last night.
	Show us the, this is a different girl now.
	Next one.
	I'm sorry, I wish we could, but we are with her in the ER.
	What's she in the ER for?
	She got an allergic reaction from something.
	So hold on.
	One girl is saying that she got injured last night.
	We have this girl saying she has an allergic reaction to something.
	The girl in question is texting us at 11 a.m. asking if she could bring two other people on the show.
	So did she get injured last night and she's in the ER because she got injured last night?
	Or is it because of an allergic reaction?
	Or are you just lying because something you don't want to be on the show?
	In any case, it's frustrating for me because obviously we're trying to run a production, but what frustrates me even more is we have people who at great cost and time come to be on the show.
	We have Mary here, you flew in from Washington, D.C.
	I did.
	That's a five-plus hour flight.
	Did you fly in today or yesterday?
	It was like all day yesterday.
	Yeah, I mean, she spent all day yesterday coming here.
	That, you know, the cost of that.
	We have Violet here.
	You came from Texas.
	You came from LA, correct?
	You're from LA too, correct, Priscilla.
	So we have a lot of people coming out of town to be on the show.
	And then if you take up four seats on the panel, it's kind of like, look, if you don't fuck with the show, that's fine.
	But it's very inconsiderate an hour before the show to make up some lie about how you're in the ER when we have people who have at great time and expense come to be here and you're potentially like doing that, like four people flaking that potentially, you know, I mean, I don't think we'd call off the show, but it's just like, it can really fuck up with the production, so it's not cool.
	Drag them.
	Yeah, exposed.
	Update on Reticia, the girl from last stream.
	So she actually came with Rhino.
	And if you guys didn't catch it, I'll give you the brief plot synopsis.
	Goes to UCSB, studying feminist studies.
	Apparently she has 170k followers on TikTok.
	I didn't know that.
	Anyways, halfway through the show, I heard a lot loud knock on our door here in our studio.
	And it's my property manager.
	Super cool guy.
	He's just confused.
	And he tells me that downstairs, there's a group of girls bothering all the tenants in the building, asking if the girl, Reticia, was with any of them and if she was safe.
	And I told him, yeah, she's here.
	We're doing a show.
	Keep in mind, there's like 10 people in the studio.
	We're doing it live.
	She told her friends she was coming to do a podcast.
	She refused to actually explain what happened.
	Essentially what was happening, all these girls, we have a call box.
	All these girls were on the call box calling every single tenant being like, oh my god, did somebody abduct Reticia?
	So it was pretty annoying.
	I kind of got upset.
	And she just refused to tell us what the deal was.
	She tried to play it off like it was an emergency, but it wasn't.
	I talked to Rhino afterwards.
	There was no family emergency.
	It was just her friends were actually brain dead, like toaster brain.
	I can't, it's ridiculous.
	My theory is, no emergency, no family issues.
	You know, I think it's pretty normal for girls to like let a friend know if they're going somewhere, hey, I'm going to be here.
	I don't know if you don't hear from me by 11 p.m.
	I've been murdered or some bullshit like that, right?
	Safety concern type of thing.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	Totally valid.
	So I think she told her friend she was going to a podcast.
	I don't know what she told them because she refused to disclose to us what the deal was, but I think her friends got overzealous and over-protective, like some main character syndrome shit.
	Like, oh yeah, she definitely got abducted on the live podcast that she went to, which is being broadcast live on the internet.
	So her friends must have mistakenly thought, because they had not heard from her for a few hours, that she must be in danger, that she was in some torture dungeon.
	Because heaven forbid, a grown adult woman stayed out past 9 p.m.
	Which never in the history of humanity has a grown adult woman stayed out past 9 p.m.
	So anyways.
	Never happened.
	Never happens.
	So Retisha and Retisha's ridiculous friends, I cordially invite you to come on the podcast and you explain what happened.
	Of course, you'd probably lie and make something up.
	In any case, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	I'm Violet.
	I'm 23 and I am a documentarian.
	Hold up.
	You're 23 and you're documentarian.
	What are you documenting?
	Your descent into madness and chaos?
	I'm documenting my sexual exploration of myself.
	Okay, so I think what I said checks out there.
	But so you're talking like you're OnlyFans, basically.
	Is that?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Subscribe.
	Violet Brandanny.
	Don't subscribe.
	Oh, no.
	Don't do it.
	Mary doesn't want people to subscribe.
	You want people to subscribe.
	No, you should subscribe to Mary's, too.
	She's really good.
	There isn't one.
	No, not her OnlyFans.
	She's not an OnlyFans.
	Are you requesting Mary do a collaboration with you on OF?
	That's declined.
	Decline?
	Sorry, Violet.
	Oh, come on.
	You meet Tim.
	We all come on together.
	Tim.
	Do you think Tim disgusting?
	Wait a little bit.
	Sorry, Violet.
	Freeway.
	No.
	Pod.
	No.
	Okay, shut down.
	Sorry, Violet.
	What about you?
	Go ahead.
	I'm Tarane.
	I'm 32, and I work as a realtor, property manager, and cosmetologist.
	Okay.
	You said 32, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, got it.
	And you're from LA, right?
	Yep.
	You do, you're a realtor, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay, gotcha.
	I work full-time in property management, but I have a real estate license.
	Got it.
	Okay, what about you?
	Hi, I'm Jocelyn.
	I'm 18.
	I'm also from L.A.
	And I'm a student at SPCC.
	Oh, okay, got it.
	What do you study at Santa Barbara City College?
	Politics.
	Politics, okay, all right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So my goal is not to say anything that's going to hurt my potential future, you know, today.
	It's already too late.
	It's already too late for that.
	You're on the whatever podcast.
	It's crack.
	Do you know what you want to get into?
	Do you want to be a lawyer?
	You want to go be a politician?
	I want to do like campaign managing.
	So I'm like not the actual politician.
	Got it.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm Sammy.
	I'm 18.
	I'm from Sacramento, and I'm also a student at SPCC, and my major is medicine.
	Medicine?
	Okay, so you want to be a doctor?
	Yeah, I want to be an ER doctor.
	A what?
	An ER doctor?
	Oh, ER doctor.
	Okay.
	You can treat the flakes.
	You can treat the girls who don't treat us.
	That's perfect.
	We'll check in in 10 years after medicine.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	My name is Chelsea.
	I'm 18 as well.
	And I'm from Hollister, California, and I'm a student here at UCSB.
	What are you studying at UCSB?
	Film and Media.
	Film and Media.
	Okay, do you want to get into directing or what do you think you have to do?
	I really want to do screenwriting, but I'm also leaning towards marketing and PR.
	Have you ever written a screenplay?
	Yeah, I have actually.
	Not published or anything, but all my free time.
	Was it like a short, a full-blown?
	No, a short, a short.
	And yeah, I really like creative writing, so I. What was the title of your screenplay?
	I can't even recall, honestly.
	It was a while ago.
	It was a mystery.
	It was a thriller.
	What a thriller.
	I don't want to give too many details in case it's out in the world one day.
	Right, okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Priscilla.
	I'm a college student at the University of Southern California, and I'm currently studying economics.
	And oh, I'm almost 25 years old.
	Gotcha.
	So 24.
	Yeah, I'll be 25 in a little more than a week.
	Okay, pretty soon then.
	Mary, what about you?
	All right.
	Yes, my name is Mary Morgan.
	I am a commentator at Timcast Media on a show called Pop Culture Crisis.
	I'm 23.
	I have been here in the past, what is it, two times, three times before?
	I think three times.
	I don't remember now.
	Because I almost didn't make it on time today, and I'm really glad that I did.
	I'm happy to be back, but not everyone can roll out of bed and look flawless like Brian does.
	I just want to say that.
	I just want to put that out there.
	Don't hold me back.
	I mean, it was just a mix-up because the previous times you had been on, our previous time was 7 p.m.
	We switched our time to start a bit earlier, and just a little mix-up there, but all good.
	We got you here, so welcome back, Mary.
	And Madison, what about you?
	My name is Madison.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I work for the Whatever Podcast.
	I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College studying business.
	I host at a bar and like other things, but.
	Okay, got it.
	All right, we're going to go around the table once more.
	So what is your current relationship status?
	Are you single?
	Are you in a talking stage?
	Situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule sex, cold harem, something else.
	There's probably other categories.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship that you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm single.
	I've been single since I've been an adult.
	Single since she's been an adult?
	You said you've been single for like six years, right?
	Yes.
	I saw a guy driving your van.
	Is that a love interest?
	No, that's my photographer.
	We've worked together for six years since I started, yeah.
	But it's not, it's strictly business.
	There's not an occasional.
	There's an occasional for recording and stuff, yeah, when we're doing content and stuff.
	But I really trust him, and we work really good together.
	So are you currently making content with him now?
	No, not recently.
	I flew him out for Joshua Tree to help me out.
	And yeah.
	Okay, so single for six years?
	Did you get a bunch of DMs after the show?
	Yeah, I got a few.
	A few?
	Okay.
	A lot of them were saying don't go back on because you're mean.
	Wow, exposed.
	What do you think?
	What's your diagnosis, Violet?
	Of you?
	Yeah, my mean.
	Do you think I'm mean?
	No, I think you get frustrated really easily and you need to chill a little bit.
	That's a fair assessment.
	Like you need a vacation or something.
	Or maybe you need to get a test somewhere else.
	What's that?
	Remember, I said maybe move to Texas?
	I think you would be happy there.
	No, Texas is kind of...
	You don't like it?
	You're a Callie Boy.
	I like the weather here.
	I think that's our disconnect.
	You're a Callie Boy.
	I'm a Texas.
	What do you mean?
	What disconnect?
	Callie boys are so Cali.
	Nobody actually says Callie, though.
	Oh, what do they say?
	It's just California.
	Okay.
	That's my Texas brain then, because I'm not from here.
	I don't know y'all's trends.
	but um yeah you're very um i'm a dickhead i I get it.
	It's all good.
	You can just say it.
	Yeah, no, I'm used to dealing with like more aggressive guys.
	Am I aggressive?
	Yeah, but you come off like you're trying to just get someone in a little clip, you know, just to let it go viral.
	And I'm like, you get so frustrated whenever it doesn't happen.
	It's so funny.
	Well, I think your diagnosis there is wrong.
	I think my frustration doesn't stem from my ability or inability to get some viral clip.
	My frustration stems from the absolute shit show that is running the whatever podcast and dealing with eight flakes every single show, dealing with people no showing, trying to fill replacements, dealing with kind of the bullshittery that goes on with having these sorts of conversations.
	Yeah, and all that, like, I don't see.
	Like, nobody else sees.
	So you're the only person who's not.
	Well, they know, but I mean, whether I get clips or not, I don't think that's my primary.
	I could do a podcast as long as it goes smoothly.
	I'm going to otherwise be happy whether I get a viral clip or not.
	The primary driving thing when it comes to the perhaps visible frustration that I sometimes display on this show is primarily related to the complexity of booking essentially 20 people week after week, months on end, and then just also dealing with sometimes the other big personalities that can come on the show who are sometimes disrespectful or rude or don't know how to conduct themselves in a professional podcast.
	Would you ever do more of a one-on-one or is that something?
	I've done those.
	I mean, I've hosted debates and I've done one-on-one interviews, but for the time being, we're just primarily focused on this.
	But actually, pretty soon I'm going to be doing, for those of you who are interested, I'll be doing a one-on-one interview with a divorce attorney.
	James Sexton will be on in about 10 days or so, I think.
	So that's going to be a really good one.
	He went crazy viral on the internet, so it will be very interesting to pick his brain.
	Very experienced New York divorce attorney, so that'll be good.
	Have you ever done just like face-to-camera podcasts?
	Face-to-camera.
	Like you're talking to the camera.
	I don't think I'm interesting enough to pull that off.
	I would like to know more about you, though.
	What's that?
	Feminist donated $100.
	Hold on.
	Sorry about my friend's last show.
	They were worried I would be exposed to dung-er-us and PR problematic ideas so they tried to come save me.
	We much prefer our echo chamber, THE Also.
	777,777, no, million,777, thank you.
	Arslurd, UCSB feminists, appreciate it.
	777.
	Yeah, that was interesting.
	She's welcome to come back on the show, though.
	If she wants to come back on the show, she's more than welcome to be on the show.
	She can explain what happened.
	$777,700.
	$777,000.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I think that's seven deadly sins.
	Can you, your relationship status, please?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Single for the last three years.
	My longest was four years.
	Sorry, you said single for the last seven years, correct?
	Three.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Clearly, I have trouble listening.
	Three years, but you've been what?
	Oh, my longest relationship was four years.
	Four years, okay.
	I added three and four and somehow arrived at seven.
	I think I'm dyslexic.
	So, single for three years, okay.
	Uh, and your longest was four.
	So, your last relationship was at 29 about when you ended when you were 29?
	Yeah, just about.
	Was that the four-year?
	No, that was three years.
	Are you Canadian?
	No, I get that.
	Because you said the way you said, I'm from New Hampshire.
	Ah, okay.
	So, you said about, I thought that's so funny.
	You're not the first person to have said that to me.
	I'm actually, well, I moved here from Boston, but I grew up in New Hampshire.
	Sorry about Boston.
	The whole Boston thing.
	I'm sorry about that.
	The whole Boston thing.
	Just sorry about having to live in Boston, I guess.
	That sounds miserable.
	It's cold as fuck.
	It is cold as hell.
	Yeah.
	The summers are really pretty, though.
	Yeah.
	And the fall is really cool.
	Yeah.
	This time of year was really cool.
	You know, the winters.
	Winters.
	I want to move to Boston.
	It's like, yeah, the summers, but also the winners.
	Yeah, the winners.
	That's what I, yeah.
	So you've been single for three years.
	So nothing.
	You've been celibate for three years.
	No.
	There's been situationships or dated.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Just nothing stoked.
	When's the last time there was like a situationship or talking stage?
	Maybe like a year or two ago where it like got kind of serious.
	Well, it seemed like it was going to go somewhere, but one sec, guys.
	Sorry, apparently we're getting reports of lag.
	Let me just look into this really quick.
	Nick, do you have the pop-up?
	You don't have the pop-up chat visible?
	I do have it.
	Have you seen the reports of the lag?
	Starting as soon as seven minutes ago?
	Sorry if there is lag, guys.
	I'm not sure exactly why we're getting that.
	It looks like it took parents up.
	Yeah.
	One in the chat if the lag is better, guys.
	One in the chat if the lag is better.
	Two in the chat if you're still experiencing lag.
	You said it's good now.
	It's good.
	Okay.
	Sorry about that, guys.
	Shitty fucking Santa Barbara internet.
	So you were saying?
	Oh, so I was.
	I dated someone a little more seriously like a couple years ago.
	I mean, that was like for a summer, so it wasn't that long.
	I don't really count it.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I've been single for a couple months now.
	How long was the relationship?
	Like a year, a year and a half.
	Okay, got it.
	And now I'm just in my college girl era.
	College girl era.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	College girl era.
	What was your longest relationship ever?
	Was it the most recent one?
	Yeah.
	And sorry, you said how long was that relationship?
	It was like a year ago.
	Oh, year and a half.
	Okay.
	But now you're in your college girl era.
	So what does that mean?
	That just means that I just don't give a fuck.
	You know, we're just doing degaff.
	Yeah.
	Don't give a fuck.
	Exactly.
	So then when I'm old and I'm like sitting in a actually, I don't want to be in a retirement home.
	But you know, when I'm old, I'm going to be happy.
	You want to be happy?
	Yeah.
	So wait.
	I'm happy that I lived life to the fullest.
	So college girl era equals living life to the fullest equals don't want regret when you're in a retirement home.
	Okay.
	I always see those like sad TikToks of like people asking older people like what do you regret in life.
	And what do they typically say?
	They say I wish that I had slept with more strangers when I was 18.
	That's what they always say.
	No, I think most of the time it's like about experiences.
	Vegas like that.
	Not taking risks.
	Not taking.
	But I mean, so because we're talking within the context of dating, you say you're in a college girl era, right?
	Girl era.
	I mean, does that mean like you know, a couple sneaky links?
	Does it mean kind of, you know, just kind of having fun dating?
	Like, if they give me the ick, then it's like, bye, and then they give you the ick.
	It's that should be a song.
	That should be a songwriter.
	Somebody has to freestyle it.
	I can't, but you know, okay.
	So currently, you've been single for three to four months.
	And that was your previous relationship, though.
	Was that a monogamous relationship?
	Yeah.
	What was the point?
	Was it kind of because I mean, we hear a lot people are in these on-again off-again relationships.
	No, it was like a good relationship.
	It was a good relationship.
	It was an open relationship.
	Was it an open relationship?
	No, it was not open.
	No, okay.
	But yeah, I mean, he's a year older, so no, he's a frat guy.
	He's doing his thing.
	Obviously, I'm not going to be with the frat guy.
	Like, do you know all the stuff that goes on in frat houses?
	No.
	Why don't you enlighten us what goes on in front houses?
	Well, I mean, I don't know if you heard, but SDSU, like, all the frats got suspended for like hazing a whole bunch of people.
	At the San Diego State University?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So now, like, I saw TikToks of people flying to other states so they could go party because everybody in San Diego is just like freaking out that they can't party.
	I mean, isn't there like UC San Diego?
	But that's like the school of the socially dead, apparently.
	Is it?
	Yeah, that's what it's known for.
	Yeah.
	So people who go to SDSU are flying.
	Yeah, I saw a TikTok of two girls going to Boulder to go party.
	Okay.
	God, college girl era.
	College girl era.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Grid one motor sports donated $100.
	College girl era equals failure.
	Your 20s are for growth.
	Besiding a full-grown human and understanding what it means to be an adult, it is exactly how you end up 30 and single with a kid from your frat guy wondering why your life sucks.
	Do better.
	That is grid one motorsports.
	He's our official commentator.
	Is he?
	Yeah, he's actually observing a NASCAR race right now.
	Oh, interesting.
	I don't know how I knew that, but so, okay, the college girl era, you don't want to, you kind of, did you break up with your boyfriend because he is in his frat boy life era?
	Is that who broke up with him?
	Yes, I broke up with him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Was it because of that?
	Partly, like, I just didn't, like, he would call me sometimes really late at night and stuff like that, and I just didn't want to deal with that.
	Does he go?
	No.
	He's at SDSU.
	No, he's up north.
	Oh, he's up north.
	Yeah.
	So I just, you know, I just, I feel like the most important thing to have is like a good peace of mind, like a calm state of mind.
	Sure.
	And like just having a boyfriend that's in another university doing a whole different thing.
	That's just not the way.
	No.
	Okay.
	Was he just overly clingy?
	No.
	Hold on.
	Let me just read this.
	Sorry, Mr. Meatball.
	I think the thing, if you use certain words, it won't read it.
	College girl era equals, I believe that's slut era.
	I had a couple different girls say this to me roughly the same age.
	His words, don't shoot the messenger, his words.
	No, I know.
	But I think like most people when like college girl era, they're like, oh, she's just like hooking up with hella guys.
	And I don't really participate in hookup culture.
	And that just means that I'm having fun.
	I'm trying new things.
	Good things, not like drugs and stuff, you know?
	Because when I hear, when I hear college girl era, when I hear trying new things, just having fun, my translation is just getting run through by a bunch of dudes.
	Like, is that no?
	No.
	Oh, sorry.
	Grid one motorsports donated $100.
	Sorry, no NASCAR.
	I raced sports cars in Le Covent Pro Racing, mostly with Portion Mazda.
	Oh.
	Mazda.
	Wow.
	What's that Mazda?
	Is it a Miada?
	Is that a Mazda?
	Is that your car, Nick?
	Do you drive a 97 Miata?
	No, but I had a Mazda.
	Oh, okay.
	No, Miada.
	Is that?
	I don't know.
	A bird?
	What's that?
	That bird's a bird?
	A bird?
	We are close to the ocean.
	Yeah, we are.
	So you're just like kind of having fun.
	not super focused on taking anyone like too seriously you're just exactly You don't want to get locked down.
	Okay.
	So.
	But so, do you currently like, do you have a couple sneaky links or what is that?
	No, I mean, like, I text guys, but it's not like, I'm like, okay, I'm going to go hook up with them and be right back.
	You know?
	Okay.
	Just getting to know people.
	For what, to what end?
	Like, for what?
	Do you want to eventually get a new boyfriend?
	I think it's just because I, when I, like, eventually, like, marry somebody, I want to be like, okay, I know what I like and what I don't like in a significant other.
	And that's, like, trait-wise, like, your habits, how you, you know, just stuff like that.
	If you're a good kisser, things like that.
	Like, what things have you experienced so far that are traits you want in your forever, husband?
	I, like, if I go out, we've got a little bit of lag, uh, according to the chat, but it's looking okay on my end.
	I mean, we should.
	Uh, visual lag.
	Hold on.
	I have it on my phone.
	It's doing okay.
	Um.
	I think it's good.
	Hold on.
	Sorry, guys, one sec.
	Uh.
	Okay, well, there's honestly nothing that we can really do, I think, to adjust a lot.
	Nick, can you just, one thing we can potentially do is on this screen here, like this primary screen, there's the YouTube tab.
	Give us just one sec, guys, while we work out the lag.
	It's that one.
	Just pause.
	I need you to pause that.
	Just pause that.
	That might help.
	Okay, bring it back.
	You're going to have to go stream yards.
	Close out the F11.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, you were saying?
	I don't even remember what I was saying.
	Oh, good, good traits.
	Hello, JK.
	One sec, one sec.
	$199.
	Political campaign girl.
	You can easily practice now by campaigning your 304 phase.
	You should get an OF to begin, gather funds from simps, and then realize in later lonelier years, man, I fucked up, shouldn't have gone to college and got wifed up.
	Oh, my God.
	He got a lot to say about you.
	He's actually, I think he is curious if you'd start an OF.
	OF?
	Only hands.
	Oh, no.
	I think he's saying you'd be successful.
	I mean, thanks, I guess.
	Oh, because we're homemade.
	Yeah, we sleep like three feet apart from each other.
	That could be a thing.
	Why are you saying this to a couple of 18-year-olds?
	That's honestly kind of weird.
	I started at 18.
	I'm not trying to groom anyone, but I was just saying.
	Sleep.
	Okay.
	Back on track.
	Yeah, back on track.
	College girl era.
	Yeah, just college girls.
	But so you're just kind of like talking to a couple different guys right now.
	Yeah, live in London.
	So you don't like, there's not, is there one who's like your main piece?
	Like your main?
	Do you have a main?
	I don't have a main.
	Do you have one that you have like, this one's my favorite?
	And then the other seven are kind of, eh.
	No, seven is a lot.
	Oh, okay.
	You can't do more than like four at a time.
	Can't do more than four at a time.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever tried five at a time?
	If you were to have a roster.
	Do you have a roster?
	I wouldn't say I have a roster.
	It's not like I switch them out and I'm like, okay, I'm done with this one.
	Gotcha.
	So I didn't mean to interrupt you.
	You said, but if you have a roster, continue with your point.
	Yeah, like if you were to have a roster, why would you want a lot of guys on it?
	I feel like that just takes up so much of your time.
	Do you think that you're on their rosters?
	Like they have.
	I mean, we're in college, so probably that's the way it rolls.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	Probably.
	A lot of dudes have rosters.
	A lot of girls have rosters.
	But so do you, you said, Max, you've dated or seen at one time is four people?
	I would say that's pretty accurate.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, she hears guys about everything.
	You see and hear?
	What do you hear?
	It's nothing bad.
	Nothing bad.
	No, but we're in the same exact room.
	So like I get, I see all the guys.
	I meet all of them.
	They're all amazing.
	Like they're really sweet.
	Yeah.
	They're kind of like, they're her hosts.
	They're my friends.
	They're your hosts.
	I guess so.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I mean, this is pretty typical college experience, I reckon.
	uh you said you don't want to look back when you're in your retirement when you're older and regret all the dudes the college dudes that um I guess uh I don't know I think my parents just met when they were really young.
	They didn't really date a lot of people.
	Yeah.
	And then they're divorced now.
	And I think maybe that could have been avoided if they had gone out with more people.
	And that way they would have been like, okay, this is what I are we compatible or not?
	Because you've been with, not been with, like literally, but talk to so many people that you know if you're somewhat compatible or not.
	Like opposites attract.
	I mean, I don't really know if that's true or not, but some people.
	Well, I mean, it's certainly possible that if they listen to your advice, you wouldn't be born, right?
	True.
	I mean, kind of, you know?
	Like.
	Yeah.
	Because it's all a glitch.
	Do you think it's necessary to talk to multiple people to know what you want?
	For me personally, yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Have you found figured it out?
	No, I have not figured it out.
	Sorry, hold on.
	What?
	Crimson $1,997 donated $100.
	Violet chat ships, you and Trump.
	Oh my God.
	Would you date him?
	Would you S his D?
	He and the Protestants.
	Would you take him to Poundtown?
	The Bone Zone?
	Brian.
	The Boone Palace.
	Would you tap that Australian dollars squat thrusts in the cucumber patch?
	Some bedroom acrobatics.
	I can deal with some of the acrobatics and cucumbers, maybe together.
	I don't know if Brian's down for it.
	He seems like he might be.
	Well, he's asking you, would you, all this other stuff about the Sing the D and the P and the V, maybe that's a bit much.
	He's asking, would you date Brian?
	I would date you, yes.
	You're definitely like, I love the beard.
	I love the manliness.
	If I go a little crazy, you'll guide me in the right direction.
	I would date you.
	If you go a little crazy, I would guide you in the right direction.
	Yeah, like if I'm, you know, acting out at a party, you'd be like, come on.
	I'll come back to the previous chat after this comes up.
	I'm going to go ahead and do a change for STEM science tech engineer, Mac.
	Why would you waste your time with extreme bad loans for a useless studies degree that amounts to nothing?
	Just work as an assistant or waitress, never go to OF.
	Huge fail.
	Honestly, they shouldn't even go to college for STEM because men are better at STEM.
	Mary coming in with the hot takes.
	Very controversial.
	Does that have to do with being a pilot too?
	Because aren't women pretty good at pilots?
	Oh, I certainly would feel less safe in playing.
	I heard that women are really good at having female pilots.
	I don't know about that.
	Are you against your own gender?
	I don't know if Andrew Tate agrees with that.
	Sorry, what did you have for me?
	Are you against your own gender?
	Like thinking that men are better at STEM and that.
	No, I think that's a good idea.
	There are things that men are better at and there are things that women are better at.
	And it just so happens that men have better spatial awareness.
	They just excel more in the sciences than women do, which is why there's this artificial push, like pushing all of these girls into STEM who probably wouldn't be interested in it in the first place if they weren't being pushed into it.
	And then they end up being like one of like two girls in their class for like engineering or something.
	And they're not nearly as likely to be gifted at that compared to guys.
	I just think that's sad, honestly.
	As a woman in STEM, not me personally, but other women.
	Like if you want to go into STEM and constantly having that being told.
	You know, if you're good at it, that's fine.
	But I'm just saying like men are far more likely to be successful.
	But I'm saying like you wouldn't recommend it for most women is what you're saying, right?
	Like you're not like banning them from doing it, but you're saying like, yeah.
	I feel like men love building things.
	They're super interested in things and women are really interested.
	Like naturally most of the time.
	Yeah.
	And women are like interested in people.
	So women can do the same thing.
	They're equal.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, equal but different for sure.
	I mean, of course they're different.
	One has a venous, one has a vagina.
	Of course they're fucking different.
	For sure.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Violet, can I just have you move those two cups into the table a little bit more?
	That one too.
	Yeah, thank you.
	So, okay.
	Thank you, Cheeks, for the chat.
	Crimson was asking, would you, Violet, would you date me?
	I said yes.
	Yeah, I know.
	You make me beg for it.
	No, I just got interrupted.
	So it's just like a one-sided thing where like she responds, but you don't.
	No, I'm going to respond.
	I'm going to respond.
	I got thank you, Cheeks.
	Thank you, Cheeks.
	I was trying to respond.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, God.
	I'll get to it.
	I'll get to it.
	Thank you, Cheeks.
	Men are better at everything.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	Beauty pageants, etc.
	Beauty pageants.
	Beauty pageants.
	700 hottest women in U.S. magazine, and a few males did.
	Dylan Mulvaney just won Women of the Year.
	Not a joke.
	Wow, we're getting into some hot.
	He thinks he's all cool when he's just sitting in the YouTube channel comments thinking he's like all the shit, like commenting this kind of stuff.
	I would not invoke Beaten Cheeks' wrath.
	Beaten Cheeks.
	I know his name is a little bit.
	No, I love it.
	You know, it might be.
	I love it.
	But he will come down like a Titan and unleash his wrath.
	What's that thing from?
	What's that movie?
	300.
	Pulp Fiction.
	Oh.
	Furious Anger and Righteous.
	Pulp Fiction.
	Okay, wait.
	Who thinks pulp fiction is an epic movie?
	I haven't even watched any of it.
	I don't either.
	I don't get it.
	I like some Tarantino movies, but that one, it's like I don't know.
	They're going to start super chatting about how men are better at making movies, men are better at understanding movies.
	And it is unironically true, but pulp fiction sucks.
	All right, Mary came to pulp fiction's pretty good, though.
	Do you like any of his movies?
	Wait a minute.
	Dating podcast, by the way.
	Tarantino movies.
	No.
	No, you don't like any of them?
	No.
	Like, my whole family is like that is.
	Okay, hold on.
	You don't like Tarantino films.
	I mean, I haven't seen all of them.
	I'm not going to sit here and pretend I have, but the ones I've seen, I know.
	What about what's the 80s one?
	Reservoir Dog.
	Reservoir.
	Do you want to mansplain the movie?
	I'm going to mansplain.
	I'm going to mansplain.
	We got Reservoir Dogs.
	I haven't seen that.
	We have Inglorious Bastards.
	That one is so hard for me to watch.
	Is that Fear of Loathing?
	fear and loathing in las vegas no that's oh no that's not turned No, that's not Tarantino.
	Johnny Depp was in that.
	That was, fuck, who directed that?
	no that was not tarantino i don't know who i forgot who directed that movie but um there were uh django unchained I've seen that one.
	I haven't seen that.
	That's a good one.
	All right.
	All right.
	Okay, welcome to the whatever film review podcast.
	We have Swordless here.
	This came in before the show.
	Dude, thank you, man.
	Have fun and keep it up.
	Enjoy the show and don't hold back.
	Thank you, brother.
	He lives overseas, so I think he has to send it in because it's probably, like, really late where he is.
	Okay, so to finally here, I'm going to pull at Crimson's back up here really quick because I'll read, or Conan 19, or I'll just, Conan 19, Brian, what's wrong with cold weather?
	I live on Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
	The bugs, traffic, and annoying tourists go away.
	Snow days are great too.
	Dude, the winters in Boston are brutal, my friend.
	But if you enjoy it, hey.
	Shout out.
	Good for you, dude.
	And Conan, I think I've seen you before.
	Thank you for coming back, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, let me trigger the scan.
	Nick, you can go ahead and hide that.
	So we can finally address it.
	Crimson $1,997 donated $100.
	Violet, chat ships, you and Brian.
	Would you date him?
	Would you S his D?
	P in the V. Okay.
	Would you take him to Pound Town?
	The Bone Zone?
	Drillville?
	The Boone Palace?
	Would you tap that Australian dollars?
	Squat thrusts in the cucumber patch.
	Some bedroom acrobatics.
	Yes.
	This is the third time.
	No, but you got to understand.
	I keep getting interrupted.
	I keep getting interrupted.
	That's three times, by the way, that you've...
	Okay, I'm just letting you know.
	Three times.
	You're a very pleasant girl, very attractive girl.
	However, because you have done porn, for that sole reason, I would not date you.
	Wait, I thought that you said you would date a girl who has an OF.
	So my previous stance was I would date, and I think it's since changed.
	Again, could I be convinced if she's doing like tasteful lingerie stuff?
	Maybe.
	She's so tasteful about it.
	It is artsy when you're doing like lingerie and things.
	Generally speaking, though, I mean, if I have other options, like two girls, one has OF, one doesn't, I'm going to pick the girl who doesn't do OF.
	Right, exactly.
	And I have not dated a girl who does OF.
	I've not hooked up with.
	I've not done anything with a girl who has an OnlyFans.
	But so my previous position was, well, I would date a girl so long as she hasn't done boy girl content.
	That was my previous position.
	People didn't even like that position.
	So when I say boy girl, like a girl who hasn't had sex on camera with another guy.
	my new position though is pretty much like yeah if only fans even if it's solo content even if it's there's no new i mean i'd have to meet someone pretty amazing but you have done boy girl content Are you going to answer my would you rather today?
	I could, yeah, I forget what it is, but um, and the thing is, Violet, you're actually a very pleasant person.
	You're very attractive.
	Thank you.
	You're five foot, you're five feet, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I like short women, so that's good.
	But because you've done adult content, I would not date you.
	Got a week.
	I'm not saying anything about you seem like a fantastic person, but just on that soul metric, there's videos of you online on the internet fucking other men.
	I would just, I couldn't deal with that in a relationship.
	Yeah, I understand.
	I mean, everyone has their personal preferences.
	I'm not asking anyone to accept me for whatever, but, um, or associate with me, but I get it.
	I totally get it.
	Having, especially because you're kind of an influencer, a lot of people know you.
	Having your girl out there, like, hoeing it might be a little stressful.
	Not hoeing it, but like flashing, you know, all of that.
	Yeah, I mean, it's just like if, again, you're a very pleasant woman, you're very attractive.
	However, because you have done porn, I could not date you.
	Even casually, I wouldn't even hook up with you.
	I wouldn't even want to have sex with you.
	So, my would you rather was would you rather date someone who has a really high body count but doesn't do sex work or has like a body count of two?
	But does like and she's done BG content with other men.
	She has like, yeah, say her body count is two.
	And then another girl ten.
	They're both undesirable situations.
	But you have to choose one.
	For what?
	For just for the two.
	For the game, it's a game.
	And you have to do it with a new human race.
	Dialogue.
	Yeah, it's a good idea.
	Well, the last two, I mean, the last two humans on earth.
	If she has an OnlyFans, but her body count's low.
	I'm going to tell you, I probably would take the low body count OF girl in that situation.
	Wait, if it's the last two people, wouldn't you have to do your work and do both of them?
	Because you're trying to just get it out there.
	Fair point.
	Right?
	Repopulate.
	And like, you need to repopulate.
	Repopulation comes in.
	So I guess out of the goodness of my heart, it's open.
	You're still in real world.
	I will begrudgingly have sex with the 100 body count woman.
	And because I'm a out of the niceness of my heart, I would like to repopulate the world.
	So yes, sure.
	I get it.
	But okay, of the two, like the OnlyFans girl with a low body count versus what's the body count?
	Two versus a hundred type of thing?
	Oh, I was saying like two versus 15.
	Oh, two versus.
	Yeah, isn't it 15?
	Wait, what's a high body count?
	Because I really don't know.
	It's good enough there.
	Yeah, I thought that would be, I mean, past like.
	Shit, that's a tough one, not gonna lie.
	Well, OnlyFans, it doesn't stay in the past.
	Honest, you know?
	What's that?
	I mean, if you have OnlyFans, like pornography doesn't stay in your past because it's gonna live on the internet.
	Yeah, it's forever.
	Yeah.
	And they're otherwise, in terms of their physical appearance and their personality, they're comparable.
	These two options.
	Oh, what about this option?
	Oh, God.
	All she has to do is take a scan of her body.
	And she can make millions, you know, because they'll make her fuck anything or, you know, porn everywhere.
	But all she has to do is take a scan, and it's AI porn.
	Would you be with a girl that did that?
	That did, that had an AI version of herself.
	Yeah, making porn.
	There are already girls with.
	I know it's coming.
	AI generated.
	Yeah, like there's a lot of like, it's kind of kitty, right?
	Not, I didn't mean kitty, but like play around, you know, like they're playing around with just funny AI porn memes and things like that, but it's going in that direction.
	You feel so wait, what?
	Would I just date a girl who even associated with it, like that?
	Well, when compared to better options, in other words, a woman who has done absolutely no kind of sex work, OnlyFans, anything, and I could date a woman who doesn't have that kind of presence on the internet.
	Absolutely, I would much rather date a woman who doesn't have that presence on the internet.
	But so your question is, would I date a woman who's done that?
	No.
	The AI, I think.
	Yeah, no.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen that?
	There's this Black Mirror episode.
	I don't know if you guys watched the new season where she sold her rights to, they made, it was called Joan is Awful.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know if anybody in the chat saw that.
	What did you think of that episode?
	I keep asking that.
	What you think of episodes and movies?
	It was cool, I guess.
	I thought it went off the rails a little bit.
	It was interesting.
	But it was an interesting episode.
	I mean, the older seasons were much better.
	They definitely were.
	Yeah.
	Sanjina Pero.
	San Junipero.
	That's my favorite.
	That was pretty bomb.
	That was my favorite one.
	Yeah.
	I liked the most recent, the one.
	Sorry, chat.
	Have you guys seen Black Mirror?
	The interesting one was when they were on the spaceship with what's that guy from Baking Bad?
	I like that one.
	I don't know his name, but he looks like a little Matt Damon or something.
	Grid one motorcycle.
	Oh, here we go.
	Here we go.
	Lingerie models, nurses, girls named Tiffany, and flight attendants are at best good for now, girls, men keep in the fun zone.
	They are fun, but you might get your car keyed or tires slashed.
	Corn stars, strippers, and models are in the no zone.
	What does he have against Tiffany's?
	And corn stores.
	Tiffany is a bad story.
	Tiffany is kind of a red flag, not gonna lie.
	Flight attendants made big red flag.
	Yeah, huge.
	I used to want to be a flight attendant.
	Huge.
	I thought that would be a really cool way to travel.
	Word.
	But you're really just kind of on a plane.
	But I don't know, did I thoroughly, we should ask the chat.
	So the question was, what, would you rather, okay, chat.
	One in the chat, if you would rather date a girl who's done OnlyFans and she's done BG boy girl content, so she's shot with men.
	There's videos of her having sex with men on the internet, but she only has a body count of one.
	Or would you date two in the chat if you'd rather date a woman who has a body count of 20 who doesn't have that shit on the internet?
	Someone said WTF, why is she only in a bra?
	Dude, I was wondering the same thing.
	I feel uncomfortable, but nobody wanted to mention it.
	I was like, is this just okay to wear underwear in public now?
	I saw another person doing that on the street earlier today.
	No, but I'm definitely promoting on here, so I gotta spice it up a bit.
	It's for promotion.
	Okay.
	There's like a mix.
	It's not like a family event.
	It was Aaron Paul.
	Okay, some guys seem to, they prefer the higher body count.
	Yeah, it's a tough one.
	It's a tough one.
	Okay, let's move on.
	I think I thoroughly addressed status.
	Addressed it.
	Yes, we were doing relationship status.
	I think we kind of covered you, but let's move on.
	What about you?
	I have never been in a relationship before, nor do I really plan on it.
	Just because I have a plan for myself in life.
	Sure.
	And as much as I want a relationship, it's just like I like to put myself first.
	I like to just go with the flow of life.
	And, you know, if I find some guy along the way, awesome.
	But I'm not going to force myself to try and be in a relationship because then it kind of just puts my goals down.
	And I think I'm important because there's only one of me.
	Wait, you think you're important?
	Yeah, there's only one of you.
	What do you mean?
	In a sense of not just draining myself in a relationship that just doesn't work, I want to find someone who pushes me towards my goals.
	And we are on the same path towards like, I don't know, if I meet someone in medical school, it's like, oh, he's going to medical school too.
	Then it ends up working out.
	But if I meet someone now, I know that I'm not going to stay in Santa Barbara because my parents live in South Carolina.
	So I'll probably end up going to South Carolina.
	But if I have someone down here, it just makes it really hard.
	Okay, so you're not.
	No.
	Nothing with guys.
	Not really.
	No, I mean, like, I'm not against it.
	Like, I'll talk to guys.
	Like, I go to parties and stuff.
	Like, and if there's guys there, I'm like, hey, and I'm just super honest about it that I'm just, I put myself first.
	And that's kind of it.
	You put, okay.
	You said that you don't see yourself in a relationship ever?
	No, not ever.
	Just, you know, it happens when it happens.
	Like.
	Like, you're not looking for it.
	No, it'll just come to me anymore.
	It'll just be natural.
	Yeah.
	Do you have like an age or anything you want to start looking?
	I don't really care.
	I think like there's a plan for everything in life and you know it'll happen when it happens.
	So I'm not going to rush it.
	I'm not going to force it because then it's just going to be like harder for me.
	So the right guy will come along and then it'll be a good idea.
	That's a cool way to look at it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Shit.
	So, but do you, oh, do you want kids?
	Yeah.
	You want kids?
	I do want kids, yeah.
	Do you know by what time, 30, 35?
	I just want to be set in life before I have kids because, you know, like I was talking about like being an ER doctor and that takes 11 years of schooling.
	So probably once I finish my medical school and stuff.
	Okay.
	So I hope by like 30, once I'm a little established and like I have, I can support them.
	Is that when you want to be married or when you want to start having children?
	Like I said, I don't really, I can't see in the future.
	So you know when it happens, it happens.
	And you know what?
	I might not even have kids and I might end up like adopting.
	And like those are my kids.
	But.
	Okay, so you're open to adopting?
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	Like I'm fostering like any of that.
	Like I want kids, but they don't have to be biological.
	They can just, but they're.
	Okay.
	But so but you would also be okay having your own kids.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a preference or like what do you mean?
	How many?
	Well, sure, but also, I mean, would you prefer to have your own biological kids versus adoption?
	I mean, it really doesn't matter because, I mean, adopting those kids need a home.
	And, you know, like.
	Sure, but I mean, it does, if your interest is in adoption, it does shrink your potential dating pool because a potential partner who does want to have kids, most people, I would say, want to have a lot, like, their own kids.
	Yeah.
	And that's fine.
	I'm not saying that.
	So that's their own opinion.
	But it does continue to shrink your potential pool of dating options if you want to adopt them.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, that's okay.
	That's their own personal opinion.
	That's why I hope to find someone who's open to anything.
	Sure.
	Like, because my nickname is 10 Second Sammy because I'm always down for anything.
	10 Second Sammy?
	Yeah, it's 10 Second Sammy.
	I'm down for honestly anything.
	I'm super cool.
	And I'm a very open person, open-minded and stuff.
	I'm open to understanding any opinions, and I just hope I find a partner like that.
	So, you know, we might have biological kids, and maybe we'll end up adopting.
	It just really depends on the future, which I can't see into.
	Okay, got it.
	Before we have you share your relationship status, I just need to get these chats before they disappear.
	We have not a simp, though.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	W Violet, the only OF girl who I would marry.
	I love you, Violet.
	There you have it.
	Not a simp, though.
	All right, we have Trenton Kingsley.
	Violet, you're great, but why don't you put on some clothes?
	I'm waiting for it to get colder and then I'll put on this flannel.
	It's going to get colder right now.
	Quick, turn on AC.
	Yeah, Mary's dying.
	I've never seen a nipple around here.
	She's so sad.
	I might need to inscot them, and you just don't need to show them to everyone.
	That reminds me of.
	Who cares?
	That reminds me of that scene from Meet the Parents where Greg and I forgot Robert De Niro's character.
	They're talking about milking a cat.
	Oh, and the father was like, Well, I have nipples.
	Can you milk me?
	I don't know why that popped up as well.
	He reminds me of my grandpa so much.
	De Niro?
	Yes.
	I love him.
	Grandpa vibes.
	Are you Italian?
	No, I mean, I'm half Italian, half Mexican, but the grandpa I'm talking about is Mexican.
	And Robert De Niro.
	Okay, got it.
	All right.
	Just the talking and we have Hector Rodriguez.
	I think this is directed towards Sammy.
	So, Sammy, if you have a response, cat's going to be her best friends later in life.
	Do you have a response to the cat accusation?
	That's okay.
	You know, if my life plan is being alone with cats, that is what it is.
	At least I'm a fucking rich-ass doctor.
	Like, you know, like, if my life ends up better at being alone, then that's how it works out.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I love that attitude.
	Thank you.
	So, what about you?
	I'm also single and I've been single my whole life.
	Single whole life?
	Boyfriends or anything at any point?
	Situationships for sure.
	Nothing.
	What's the longest period of time that you've been talking?
	Not a long time.
	Not a long time.
	How long?
	A month?
	One month?
	A couple months, maybe?
	A couple months.
	Couple months.
	Okay.
	I mean, you're 18.
	Yeah.
	Some people are just getting started on the romance front.
	Do you have a roster?
	A roster?
	No, I don't.
	I mean, I snap people, but I don't really consider that my roster.
	Snap people?
	What do you mean?
	Like, just like snap back and forth.
	Like, I know that, but not talking to anyone.
	So I feel like if you're kind of like talking, you know, then they're considered on the roster in my mind.
	But yeah, no one on no one.
	Gotcha.
	Well, so you three, do you guys all live here in IV or just in Santa Barbara?
	I live in Santa Barbara.
	We live in the same apartment.
	Gotcha.
	What do you guys think of the guys in Santa Barbara?
	SBCC, UCSB?
	Yay, nay.
	Honestly, I don't know.
	Yeah, be honest.
	Yeah, super honest.
	I was planning on being honest.
	Love it.
	Well, obviously, Santa Barbara is known for being a big party school.
	Yeah.
	And I honestly don't think it's that.
	Like, there's a lot of parties, but they all end at midnight.
	I feel like it's not as chaotic as they make it seem, if that makes any sense.
	Yeah.
	Obviously, if you find K, like, you can find chaos anywhere if you're like doing that.
	But how are the guys?
	The guys are mid.
	So mid.
	You mean mid in terms of their physical appearance?
	Yeah, because I'm not going to go up and like talk to every single guy that I see.
	The guys are mid.
	Yeah.
	Here.
	Yeah.
	But then, I mean, I feel like everybody has high expectations for strangers, you know?
	Sure.
	Like, you, oh, yeah.
	You just want to find attractive strangers.
	So, like, of the guys that you see, you go to Santa Barbara City College, right?
	Yeah.
	And I think, Maddie, I don't know if you know, is it, what, 10,000, 20,000 students?
	I have no idea.
	Probably in the middle.
	I think it's like 11,000.
	Okay.
	What percent of the guys that, when you're at the campus at Santa Barbara City College, what percent of the guys would you say you think you find attractive?
	I can't even say that because I just go to class and then I go back home.
	I live across the street.
	I don't roam around campus that much.
	But I mean, you have classes.
	I assume there's how many classes are you taking for?
	Yeah.
	Like, okay, let's say from like all the people in my classes, I would say I only find like three guys attractive.
	Are you in any lecture halls?
	Like 200, 300?
	No.
	I feel like lecture halls at the city college are like maybe 60.
	There's some big ones, I'm pretty sure.
	Yeah, well, I mean, not really that big.
	Yeah.
	Well, when I went there, there was.
	In any case, there's, okay, well, what.
	I mean, but even just walking from class, right?
	Yeah.
	So, okay, you have how many there's you probably have like a hundred other students in all your classes, maybe 50 of them are guys.
	I mean, you really have to like look for attractive guys, you know?
	It's not like you just bump into them.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But then maybe that's how guys feel about girls.
	Walking through campus, you're going from, do you cross the bridge at all?
	I don't even cross the bridge because I don't have classes.
	You're just on East campus or West Campus?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	On one side.
	So, I mean.
	And seriously, I think it's because I grew up in LA and in LA there's such a big diversity that it's like here, diversity as in like a lot of different ethnicities.
	And here in Santa Barbara, I think we do lack diversity a little.
	I noticed that driving in here and I like drove around the school.
	I was like, there's like not a lot of other races.
	So you don't want to date white men.
	I don't have anything against white guys.
	I just like in the past, I haven't dated white guys.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a type?
	Well, if my roommate was back in the room, she'd be like, you don't have it today.
	Wait, can you scoot your mic that way?
	Because you're kind of getting, no, no, no, no.
	scoot it that way um pull it closer to you because it's yeah yeah so So.
	Yeah, I would say my roommate would say that I don't have a type.
	And I don't think I have a type.
	It's not like I have anything against white guys.
	I just feel like white guys do tend to go for white girls more.
	Are you not?
	I'm not white.
	You're definitely white, though, because everyone in this room thought you were white.
	Yeah.
	You look exactly.
	So what do you mean?
	I hate to break it to you because you don't have as many oppression points, but you're like, you're white.
	Like my race is white, but my ethnicity, I'm Hispanic.
	Both of my parents were born and raised in Mexico.
	But there's white Mexicans.
	Yeah.
	So you're white, though.
	You have blue eyes and fair skin.
	Yeah, like skin color.
	Like my race is white, but my ethnicity isn't.
	You can be, like on the, when you fill something out, you can be white, but also be Latino, I think.
	Yeah, so like my race is white.
	My ethnicity is Hispanic or Latina.
	Like when you go to like Mexico and South America, you'll see very white people.
	Yeah, there's white people in Mexico.
	A lot of people don't think it's like that.
	Like when people, when I tell people, oh, like I'm Mexican, they're like, what?
	I speak Spanish.
	I'm a bit confused because there's actually a.
	Hold on, we'll come back to that.
	One Motor Sports donated $100.
	Case serious Q assuming you avoid Cat Lady status and a man deems you worthy.
	What do you offer a man other than the obvious sex and are you faithful enough to not cheat on a man that is away working for days or weeks?
	Who's this directed to?
	That's towards me because it says cat lady.
	Okay.
	But I'm not comfortable answering that.
	So I'm just going to say you can think what you want to think.
	Okay.
	I'm not even sure what the question is.
	I don't understand.
	I don't really understand what it means.
	Is it the infamous question?
	Like, what do you bring to the table?
	Yeah, like, what do you bring to the table?
	Okay.
	I think, like.
	I mean, it's a little bit of a loaded question, though, right?
	Yeah.
	I don't.
	A little bit.
	Just like building herself up to be the person.
	Like, I'm only 18.
	I don't have my life planned out for me.
	Like, I'm sorry that what I said was controversial, but it's all good.
	It might change, too.
	You know, I have a life ahead of me.
	It'll change.
	And stuff is going to work its way out.
	I literally just turned an adult like five months ago.
	I'm not going to have everything figured out.
	So you can think I'm an old cat lady or I'm going to be an old cat lady, but that's your own opinion.
	I think he likes you.
	Grid one is a little bit more.
	Okay.
	Hi.
	What's up?
	Are you into racing cars at all by chance?
	I would go to see a car race.
	Grid one?
	Oh my God.
	She does like car guys, though.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Grid one.
	Not really.
	Grid one.
	She does.
	I'm more into hockey guys.
	Hockey guys.
	Hockey guys.
	They're.
	Yeah, they're tall.
	Wait, this is a lot of fun.
	Hockey dudes are hot.
	What do you tell, like, what do you tell?
	Like, when they're passing by in a car that you think is attractive, what do you scream?
	There we go.
	You cat call guys?
	Not really.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, so the funny.
	Okay, okay.
	I'll tell you.
	Can I go on a little story time?
	Because this is a little bit of a rant.
	Okay, so when we're bored, don't I?
	I'm not trauma dumping.
	This is a little story time because one night, like, me and my roommates were really bored.
	I don't know if you were here for this, but my friend was driving her car and they were just rolling down the windows and they were cat calling.
	I was in the front seat.
	And at one point, we were driving down, and the girl, she rolled down a window and goes, break up with your girlfriend.
	I unbuckled my seatbelt and I hid it because.
	Oh, that was me.
	I said that.
	Oh my god.
	It scared me so bad.
	He was like, he was like, fuck you, and started running after the car.
	I pulled my seat back.
	I got under the dashboard.
	I was not for it.
	Like, I was not, I'm not a confrontational person.
	So as soon as he started, like, coming after us, I got under the seat.
	I was hiding.
	So, no, I don't cat call.
	Just to stop that.
	Like, you do when you got to the car.
	Well, he didn't get to us because we drove away.
	No, no, no.
	We didn't.
	No, he didn't get to us.
	Wait, just so you said to the.
	No, no, she said it.
	She rolled on the box.
	This couple arguing in Ivy.
	It was late at night.
	And the girl looked really miserable.
	And I was like, just break up with your boyfriend already.
	And then the guy just started running after the car.
	I thought I was doing her a favor.
	He did not like that.
	No, it was just flirt with the guy in the space.
	No, Oh, no.
	No, no.
	I was just telling the girl to break up with the guy.
	No, and then I hid.
	I hid.
	I did.
	I guess.
	I was very anxious.
	I did not like that.
	But you like car guys?
	No, I don't really know where you got that from.
	Cars?
	Hold on.
	We got another one here.
	One Motorsports donated $100.
	It was actually for the panel.
	The left side seems to be completely scuffed.
	I am an old married dude, so no, not since you're in the middle of the day.
	I'm sorry.
	It's okay.
	Sorry.
	I hope you're happy in your marriage.
	I hope all the best for you.
	G4 ID1 motorsports.
	So Grid 1 Motorsports, he's asking what everybody brings to the table.
	Grid, we'll come back to that a little later on in the show.
	I'm going to write it down to ask everyone what they bring to the table.
	Wait, I want to ask you first before we answer that question, what do you think women should bring to the table?
	Let's come back to that just because I've been wanting an answer.
	We will come back to that, but we have a couple other conversational threads we need to get to, and I do want to get everybody's relationship status.
	So, Grid, we will come back to that.
	And Mary, just ask that question again, and I'll come to it.
	I do wanted to wrap up our thread on you don't like dating white guys or no, it's not that I don't like dating them.
	I just feel like white guys tend to stick to white girls.
	And you are white, so.
	But they don't, like, they look at me.
	They don't make me see you.
	They look at me.
	They definitely look at you when they see you as white.
	They look at me and they're like, oh, like, you're probably mixed.
	Like, you're not just white.
	No one thinks that.
	She's a vanilla bee.
	I think they're intimidated by you.
	She's a bad bitch.
	Yeah, I'm too bad.
	They might be, but they just think that you're mixed.
	Well, they've told me this.
	Like, multiple white guys have told me this.
	Multiple white guys have said.
	Multiple white guys have said that.
	I can vouch for that.
	Yeah.
	I can vouch for that.
	What have they said, specifically?
	Specifically, I could tell that you're mixed.
	You're not just white.
	Like, there's something different.
	Is this before?
	Wait, wait, wait, Okay.
	Hold on.
	I'll wait.
	Repeat that again.
	That I could tell that you're mixed.
	You're not just white.
	Okay.
	They may have said that, but did they follow that up by saying, I'm not going to date you because of that?
	I doubt that.
	They might have made the obverse observation.
	No, no, they didn't say that.
	But I could see, like, that's the observation that is made.
	So you're kind of just assuming that they're not interested in you because you're mixed race when you're not actually mixed race and nobody.
	Thanks to people.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Well, just because someone makes an observation, for example, you're an Asian woman, if I opted not, like, just because I've observed that somebody is, I'm honestly getting a little confused by this myself.
	If you make an observation about somebody in a casual conversation, oh, if I were to ask, are you Korean?
	Are you Vietnamese?
	Are you Chinese?
	I'm Korean.
	Korean?
	Okay.
	Unless I explicitly state I don't date Korean women.
	To be fair, I did have a specific interaction with a guy where he was like, where he was like, to be honest, I just really like dumb blonde bitches.
	And I'm like, oh.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And then he's like, and I'm pretty sure this is so stereotypical, but he was like, since you're Mexican, because you just said that, you probably know how to cook and clean.
	And I just don't think that's wifey material.
	That's what needs to.
	Wait, hold on.
	He thinks it's not wifey material that you cook and clean?
	That's a little confusing.
	What do I know this person?
	I thought this is a random guy.
	That is wifey material.
	What the fuck?
	This guy sounds like a kid.
	How old is he?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	It was a guy at a party.
	Yeah, probably this young and wasn't at Shark's.
	No, it was a guy at a frat party.
	That's extremely weird.
	I don't know.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	That gave me a headache.
	I know.
	But okay, you think that white guys here in Santa Barbara don't date?
	Because I would actually argue men and actually white men are much more likely to date outside of their race than the reverse.
	I guess so.
	I mean, I don't know.
	It's hard to put it in a nutshell, to be honest.
	Like, it's hard to just say that all white guys are the same.
	I think the only cohort of women that perhaps dates outside their race more so than the other races when it comes to women is Asian women.
	Otherwise, I would argue that white men are much more likely to date outside their race.
	Yeah.
	So I don't, I'm a little confused.
	I went to an all-white high school and like nobody was wanted to date me, pretty much.
	But okay, just because there is some discrepancy or just because something is happening, for example, in your case, it's not because of your race or your ethnicity.
	You would need to have some linking.
	No, there's links.
	There were links.
	Well, I'm half Persian, so I had like, people used to say like the most racist, ignorant things.
	But I, and here's the other thing, though.
	I think people are entitled to have their own preferences.
	Like, so if you prefer to date white women or you prefer to date Asian women or you like Latino women, that's cool.
	Like women, women have those same preferences too.
	You ask a lot of women, oh, I prefer to date so-and-so, like this race.
	I agree.
	And I wouldn't generalize, like, oh, all white guys don't like it.
	Yeah, but here's the thing, though.
	It's only wrong when white people do it.
	When white people do it.
	If white people have a preference.
	If white people have a racial preference when it comes to dating, that's wrong.
	But it's not wrong, for example, if another race, especially a woman.
	Yeah.
	I don't see it that way, but I do hear.
	I think everybody has.
	I have heard black men getting flack from black women for dating outside their race.
	I've heard that too.
	I've heard that.
	It's both sides from what I see.
	Yeah.
	Wait, okay, so I'm just, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this.
	Okay, so you primarily, do you primarily date like Latino men, black guys?
	What are we talking about?
	I think my roommates and I have come to the conclusion that I don't have a type.
	That's true.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to tally it up for us?
	Tally it up.
	I mean, well, I went to mostly Hispanic high school, so I would say most of the guys that I've talked to slash dated are Hispanic because that's the majority growing up.
	But Santa Barbara's not diverse.
	Yeah, I think, do you guys think it's diverse?
	I think it's pretty diverse.
	I think it's diverse.
	Really?
	At least like from what I've experienced.
	Well, not compared to the rest of Southern California.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Yeah, I mean, is everybody here from California?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, it depends what kind of diversity we're talking about here.
	But I mean, I would say we have a substantial Latino population here in Santa Barbara.
	Granted, I think we have a pretty minor, at least locally.
	I don't know what the case is for the colleges.
	I think the colleges is a bit more, but locally, I don't think there's a very large black population, but a lot, I think, a pretty high Latino population in Santa Barbara.
	We also have a bunch of people coming from out of the States too to Santa Broad.
	So I feel like that's a lot of people.
	But so far, you haven't dated any white dudes.
	Yeah, one, one, just one.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	And he's from Alaska.
	Is he what?
	In the room with us right now.
	In spirit.
	Wait, isn't he back in Alaska?
	Yeah, he's in Alaska right now.
	And so I want to go around the table on this.
	You said that in all your classes, you've only seen like three guys who you think are attractive.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What about just are you on dating apps by chance?
	No.
	No dating apps?
	Okay.
	I don't want to get there.
	Don't want to get there?
	They said yes to both.
	They both said they're on dating apps.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I just feel like you really don't need to be on dating apps to get to know people.
	Like if you're social enough and really try to put yourself out there, like you'll find guys to talk to.
	Well, especially in college, I think.
	Especially in college, yeah.
	You have an abundance of ways to connect with people while you're in college.
	So.
	Sammy, why are you on dating apps if you're not interested in mathematics?
	I think the first time I downloaded Hinge was because I needed math homework help.
	I'm not even kidding.
	What?
	That's silly.
	I know.
	I'm not even kidding.
	I could not.
	It did not.
	And I deleted Chegg or something.
	No.
	Wait, did you say?
	I said download Cheg or something.
	No, it's okay.
	I go to the math lab now.
	I decided to actually.
	So you're not on the channel.
	I was for like, I think, a month when I moved down here, but then I was like, you know, it's so much easier.
	It's on and off thing with you, though.
	Yeah, the personal interaction, I feel like, is a lot easier for me because I'm a very outgoing person.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Yeah.
	So, okay, you said you only see most of the guys that you see you're not attracted to.
	You've seen three guys on campus.
	Is that like just in your class total?
	You've only seen like three attractive guys in my class.
	Okay, we'll come back to that.
	Ghost O'Brien and Ghost Girl.
	Just because she looks white doesn't mean she is white.
	I mean, everyone around you interacts with you, thinking that you are a white person in what a meaningful way are you not white?
	Who's going to be a person?
	Hashtag not pale, hashtag free nick number eight at the end of the day.
	But like when I'm around white people my whole life, they were like, oh, you're the cute little Mexican girl.
	And then when I get around Mexicans, they're like, oh, you're so white.
	I thought you were white too.
	Yeah, no, that's true.
	Really?
	That's how it works.
	I might be looking more white these days, but I think in my childhood, I probably looked a little more white.
	Well, I guess it's what is the definition.
	Don't they say it's a social construct anyway?
	Isn't it the social construct?
	Don't they say that?
	I don't know.
	Listen to the experts.
	Is this the stream where Mary reveals she's actually Guatemalan?
	No, no.
	Sorry to break it to you.
	There you have it, folks.
	Isn't it the case that there are white Hispanics?
	Am I wrong?
	I could be wrong.
	I don't know.
	I feel like there's white in every word.
	So my question is for everybody here at the panel.
	Either on dating apps or just as you're going about your day, those of you who are currently in college, and if you want to break it down into those categories, feel free.
	What percentage of men do you find attractive?
	We'll start with you, Violet.
	We'll just go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	What percentage of men is like from 35 to 55?
	Wait, what?
	You find all men in that age cohort attractive?
	Offender the offender donated $99.
	Good to see you in the chat Bender.
	Have you ever dated a guy you thought was white but was mixed race instead?
	No, I don't think so.
	Did you see that guy behind you?
	Would you date him?
	Oh my god.
	Is this like an actual person?
	It looks like a fake person.
	It's a real person, but AI person.
	Yo, R.I.P's in the chat for Ziz, please, please.
	R.I.P.s.
	And he unfortunately passed away a couple years ago.
	So we have that there as a vigil.
	R.I.P.s in the chat for Ziz, please.
	We have that there as a vigil.
	But would you date him?
	Is that no?
	He looks a little scary.
	It might be just because, like, the way the pictures.
	I feel like he needs to be on the table.
	He needs his moment.
	His eyes are intense.
	No, yeah.
	A really intense stare.
	Oh, okay.
	What is going on?
	Go ahead.
	Oh, yeah.
	So percentage of 35 to 55.
	Like, that's probably my main group that I can find a lot of men attractive in.
	There's some bums to weed out.
	So it's all because of age?
	sure we're not in we're good um no it's good You're fine.
	You're fine.
	Okay.
	Okay, you're walking around the street.
	You're at a party.
	You're at a club, wherever.
	What percentage, generally speaking, what percentage of men do you find attractive?
	Are you on dating apps?
	I just got back allowed on Tinder somehow.
	Okay.
	Allowed back.
	Yeah, wait.
	Yeah.
	Because there's a lot of fakes of me, and they'll make Tinders.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	You're famous.
	I would say 75% men of men.
	Of like normal men.
	Stop the cap.
	So you think 75% of men are attractive?
	Like, if you're not diagnosed mentally ill, I would say you're normal.
	Okay.
	Right?
	So you think that's what I'm saying?
	You find 75% of men attractive?
	Like the homeless guy, like on the corner, he's not interested in it.
	Probably mentally ill.
	Yeah.
	So are we locking that in as your answer?
	You find 75% of men attractive?
	Yes.
	This is her OnlyFans procurement answer, but.
	You are fucking liar.
	You're a fucking liar.
	What about you?
	Do you mean like on the dating apps or just in general?
	You can break it down to however you'd like.
	Okay.
	This percent on dating apps, this percent just out in the real world.
	Go ahead.
	I would say 5% on dating apps.
	And I think it's a higher percentage in the real world.
	It's like maybe 15, 20.
	15 to 20%.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Do you want to break it down to a percentage?
	I'll just say social media because I'm not on dating apps.
	So on social media, I think it's harder.
	Well, there's a lot of catfishes, even for guys.
	Are you talking about guys who are DMing you?
	Because when you say social media, are you talking about Instagram?
	Yeah, there's just...
	That's your dating pool?
	No.
	No.
	I'm just saying that there is like random people that just DM me sometimes.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	And most of the time, no.
	Those are never attractive, the ones that DM you.
	How many DMs do you get in a week, would you say?
	In a week?
	No, I'm talking about maybe once or twice a month.
	Like it's not that frequent because my Instagram is private, so I don't have lurkers or anything.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So of the how many men have DM'd you?
	10 20 30 40 i can't keep track but well you said it's only one to two months so yeah Yeah, and I've had Instagram for like, I don't know, six years.
	So since high school, let's say maybe like 50 guys at most.
	Okay.
	I'm hoping they're also high school boys.
	No, they're actually, most of them are like sugar daddies, like fake sugar daddies.
	Okay, that shit's weird.
	That's true.
	That is weird.
	So, okay, none of the guys who DM you on Instagram you find attractive.
	What about just out?
	In person?
	Walking around.
	You party, right?
	Don't you party?
	Yeah.
	So like when you go out to IV, you're going to a party.
	There's a ton of people walking around.
	What percentage of the guys that you just see would you say that you find?
	Put it this way, it's not like I randomly like bump into for into attractive people.
	Like I have to look around.
	But I'm not saying these are even people that you talk to.
	I'm just saying like you're walking.
	Attractiveness, I would say, like maybe 20% of all guys are very attractive.
	I'm not sure women even think this way, that they're like evaluating their attractiveness as much as men are evaluating women's attractiveness.
	Oh, they're definitely evaluating men on physical attractiveness.
	Like in rating reactions, but just strangers walking by, I just can remember a woman's face a lot easier than I can remember a man's face.
	Because like women stand out more to me than although I'm very attracted to men, women are obviously the more like stand out.
	No, I'm not.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	I don't think I'm like in my head rating someone from like one to ten, but I think I'm like admiring their features.
	Like if I'm talking to someone, I'm sure.
	Okay.
	Here, let's keep this moving.
	Go ahead.
	What about you?
	I would say like 40%, but then there's that 10% that like aren't bad looking, and then I end up like falling for them because I'm kind of a personality person.
	Like their personality makes for it and their looks.
	Sure.
	And then I'll be like, okay, this person's actually really cute because they're like really nice.
	But you wouldn't get that off of first glance, if that makes sense.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I don't know.
	I don't really think I have a percentage.
	Like, I grew up in a really small town.
	So, like, coming here, it's kind of like a culture shock.
	Well, you're on dating apps, right?
	Yeah, but I don't really use it.
	But you've been on it, though, I've been on it, but I just for fun, though.
	Just for fun, like a little game.
	But I don't, like, it's just, it's completely different here.
	And, like, yeah.
	So you go outside VM party?
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, I have a social life.
	So, like, I'm just a lot of RBC college, you on campus, you see guys, I assume there's guys in your class.
	What if you just had to assign like a percentage?
	What percentage of men do you think are attractive?
	Um, like, I would say 40%.
	Like, I would say the same with her.
	Yeah.
	40%?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	It's like, sorry, I'm so sorry.
	It's just, it's different here because, like, this campus is so big, and like, my classes are so much bigger than they were in, like, my hometown.
	Sure.
	So, it's like, I don't know.
	It's like a broader group of people.
	And, like, I'm just used to the same people, you know, growing up.
	What about you?
	I don't think I really have a percentage either because to tell you guys the truth, I feel like I don't really go out in the real world enough to really answer that.
	Like, I don't know.
	Are you just a hermit?
	Kind of.
	Based.
	So, and we haven't quite yet gotten to your relationship status, but when you say you don't go out into the world, like on the you don't go to the bars or clubs or anything like that?
	Not really.
	I mean, a couple times, but like, I wouldn't go out alone for sure, and it'd have to be like a group of like girlfriends.
	You're just like friends, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you're currently in college, right?
	Yeah.
	Are you doing your, what's it called?
	Post-graduate?
	No, I'm still an undergrad.
	Yeah, because the thing is, I've taken a few years on and off between, but I am trying to, you know, graduate and get my degree.
	Okay.
	So when you've been on campus, you know, I'm sure there's guys in your classes, you see guys walking around that are around your age.
	Well, maybe, maybe, I don't know about that, but I haven't paid attention to that yet.
	So that's not what I think about all of you.
	Have you been on dating apps at all?
	No.
	No.
	Do you want to just throw out a percentage out there of the men that you do see in any context?
	I mean, maybe based off TV shows, pretty much all of them are attractive, you know, because they're actors.
	On TV shows.
	I watch TV shows and I see guys through TV and I think they're all attractive for the most part.
	But I mean, you see people in real life, I assume, right?
	Like your classes.
	Do you think Brian is attractive?
	Okay, I've seen old photos of you from like maybe 2014.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I've seen old photos of you from like 2014.
	There we go.
	Okay, good.
	Maybe back then I would have considered you attractive because you didn't have a lot of facial hair, but probably not now.
	Because of the facial hair?
	Yeah, I'm not a big fan of beards.
	So maybe, okay, after it's eating solar, here, scroll down, scroll down, we'll fucking pull it up.
	Scroll down.
	These are the clean look.
	Yeah, I like the clean look for them.
	What about, let's pull up the Lewandowski one, the soccer one?
	I was going to say, you did remind me of Robert Lewandowski.
	Some kid came at me to sign his cleat when I was pretending to be Robert Lewandowski.
	Oh my god.
	All right, so you prefer the soccer look for sure.
	Yeah, well, I also stress eat, so I've gained like 20 or 30 pounds.
	So I have a fucking dad bod right now, so my cheeks are fucking chubby.
	I also love dad bods.
	Okay, Violet.
	Do you use the beard as really trying to get at you?
	Contain yourself.
	Do you some guys use the beard as a contour for the face?
	Like if they gain weight.
	Dude, are you calling me?
	I'm trying to hide.
	I am trying to hide my triple chin.
	Okay.
	So, okay.
	Wait, why are you asking?
	I don't know how that came about.
	I don't know either.
	You were asking her if she thought.
	She's kind of an average guy.
	Like you, if you think you're attractive, you'll think 75% of the men are attractive, right?
	Well, I also.
	I'm average looking.
	I do take age into factor, so preferably closer to my age.
	More attractive than.
	How old are you?
	34.
	34?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm a boomer, basically.
	Actually, millennial, but whatever.
	Who's keeping track?
	Okay, so did you give a percentage?
	Okay, I'll say like majority of men are attractive.
	Majority, unless they have a beard.
	It's all good.
	Mary, what about you?
	What about you?
	It's all good.
	I cannot quantify this.
	I don't know.
	I think I have blinders on because I'm in a relationship and I don't really care what people look like.
	Even before I was in a relationship, I was not scanning around in public for potential suitors.
	I just don't think about men that much.
	Besides your boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	But also before I was in a relationship, I just did not think about men that much.
	How did you meet your boyfriend?
	It's too bad.
	She doesn't know.
	I don't want to say how I met him.
	If you don't think about men.
	She doesn't have beards.
	It's very upsetting.
	She doesn't like it.
	I'm not like that.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not a natural circumstance.
	Okay.
	Like, I'm not being mean.
	I was just genuinely curious.
	But why don't you chit-chat?
	Don't worry about it.
	Okay.
	Here, let's, I don't know where it's like.
	I think that attractiveness is mostly personality when it comes to men.
	Do you have desires for men, though?
	Like, you desire to have a man around, right?
	She's got boyfriends.
	Yeah.
	And you like having.
	It's not just a man.
	Yeah.
	It can be any man.
	There's a particular.
	But before you had your particular man, did you have desires?
	You wanted to have a relationship?
	Oh, and to answer the relationship status question, I'm in my first relationship right now, which is obviously the longest one.
	So about a year.
	Word.
	Okay, let me finish on the numerical thing.
	Maddie, what percentage of men would you find attractive if you were single?
	If I was single, not gonna eyeball.
	Before Frankie.
	Probably like 10 to 20.
	Okay.
	So you said on dating apps you only find 5% of men attractive.
	Because men, I mean, sometimes people don't take the best pictures.
	Or it's like the pictures they post, it's like them holding a fish or like something.
	What's wrong with that?
	What's wrong with the fish pick?
	They're trying to show you that they can provide talent.
	It's a thing.
	It's like so many.
	I would say like primal.
	Yeah.
	And an excuse to put a shirtless pick on your profile.
	It's actually so hot to me when men are bad at social media.
	Like they have no socials.
	They're just like, you know, yeah, their one picture is like them near a fish because they caught their fish.
	I think that's so hot.
	Right?
	I think you're holding like your cat.
	That's kind of cute.
	Cat men are past.
	Like when the TikTok guys go ahead.
	Like when TikTok guys are doing the videos that a lot of girls do and then you see a guy do it and I'm like, oh, a video like this is face.
	Oh, yeah.
	I like, yeah, exactly.
	They're funny.
	Yeah.
	Based Violet.
	Okay.
	So you dislike the fish photos, but you like guys with cats.
	Don't you want a guy who's do you want a masculine man?
	Somewhere in the middle, like has feminine and what's in the middle for you.
	I don't mean like, I'm not talking about like trans.
	Hold on.
	No, no, no.
	That's not what we're talking about.
	We're talking about physical features or things like that.
	But like, okay, we're talking about physical or I don't get that.
	It seems like at least 50% of women object to the fish photo.
	Can you explain why?
	And does any, look, it's fine, but does any girl here also dislike the guy holding up a fish?
	It's very common.
	It's like played out.
	I would love to pull up your Instagram and see how common your photos are.
	Or sorry, not your Instagram.
	Do you have a dating app right now?
	Could you take screenshots of all the photos that you are you on Hinge?
	Yeah.
	Could you take screenshots of all your photos on Hinge, send them individually to whatever Instagram page?
	We'll pull up your thing and we'll see all the extremely creative and unique photos that you post that certainly no other woman has ever taken.
	You're going to be sorry.
	It's going to be like pictures of her doing parkour.
	You don't have to be able to see it.
	Yeah, I could be fucked up here.
	That's a good point, Mary.
	They're really just basic selfies.
	Oh, so it's okay for you to take basic photos, but if a guy has a basic life, that's like that's just an activity.
	Brian, do you have a fish photo?
	I don't have a fish photo, but that's a lot of fun.
	You need to work on that then.
	I'm going to get a fish photo.
	I don't know.
	I'm just not impressed.
	Do you not have a fish paw?
	Me and Mary are actually going to, me and Madison and Nick, we're going to do a whatever fishing day here soon, probably.
	We can.
	We can work on the photos.
	What were you going to say?
	Go ahead.
	I'm just not impressed by the fish photos.
	It's not my point.
	Okay, but they have one fish photo.
	What's wrong if they have just one fish photo and a bunch of other regular photos?
	I mean, if they had like other nice photos, but I usually end up swiping by them.
	Is it really the case that, like, on dating apps, every single photo of a guy is a fish photo?
	Like, normally...
	There's a lot.
	No, no.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, just let me properly articulate this.
	I don't think it's the case that every single photo that a guy is posting is a fish photo.
	I'm not saying that I'm sure a lot of guys have fish photos, but maybe it's one or two.
	I'm sure they have other photos on their dating profiles.
	That's true, but I mean, let's be honest.
	We just quickly evaluate the, you know, the first picture you see, and you're just kind of like swiping.
	You know, it's not like I don't really like if I don't like the first photo, I'm not going to like dig deeper because there's just so many people on the app.
	So it's like what?
	Okay, I just don't get the fish photo thing.
	Whatever.
	I feel fucking weird.
	I kind of, I don't know.
	I feel like some girls don't really like the fish photos.
	Wait, the fish photo is weird or you disliking the fish photo?
	Are you vegan?
	Are you vegan?
	Do you not eat fish?
	It's just a weird trend that I've noticed.
	You know what's a weird trend is women on dating apps not including a photo of them without a face filter and without makeup.
	I think that's weird.
	But their ass out.
	Okay.
	What's your opinion?
	On your dating app, if we were to pull it up, would there be at least one photo of you with no makeup on and no filter?
	No, probably not.
	That's called filter.
	That seems a bit more weird.
	Without filter, but.
	That seems a bit more weird to me than a guy who has a useful life skill that holding up a fish.
	I thought you said everybody has a preference.
	So that's just my preference.
	I mean, sure, everyone's entitled to their preferences, but we can also make criticisms of said.
	I think it's common, though, because men are proud of things like that.
	They're proud of providing.
	And so it's kind of like pick and choose your battles.
	Like, if he's cute, just go in with it.
	Like, oh, cool fish.
	Right?
	I think I would kind of do.
	Sometimes when men post pictures, they're posting pictures that would like they'd want to show off to their friends instead of like to attract a woman.
	I feel like if a guy's profile were too curated to the female gaze, then you would know he's a hoe.
	True.
	So if it's a fish photo, like he's grounded.
	He's humble.
	He's looking for something real.
	Yeah.
	Do you concur?
	I concur.
	Okay.
	I concur.
	Like in Leonardo DiCaprio and Catch Me If You Can.
	I concur.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	Where were we?
	I totally forgot.
	Oh, your relationship status.
	Did we come to the end of the day?
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, I've been pretty much single my entire life.
	Single your entire life?
	Yeah.
	No boyfriend ever?
	Well, I guess I've been in a situation short for like two years on and off, but.
	Okay.
	No, when?
	When did that end?
	Yeah.
	Like a month ago.
	A month ago?
	Yeah.
	But you said it's on and off.
	Well, yeah, it was two years on and off, so that's like two years ago, I guess that's when we're starting to get started.
	Oh, wait, it ended two years ago?
	No, no, no.
	Sorry.
	It started.
	The situationship started two years ago and then it ended recently.
	But it's been on and off.
	It was like on and off.
	How many times would it be was there on and off?
	How many breakups were there?
	I don't.
	Okay, maybe it's not a situation ship.
	Honestly, I'm like, I'm kind of confused about these terms, yeah.
	Wait, what's wrong?
	Oh, oh, oh, am I.
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	Yeah, you're talking.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, now that I think about it, I don't even know if it'd be considered a situationship.
	But what do you consider a situationship?
	When we're like almost about to start a relationship, isn't that what that's?
	Please listen to the mic.
	When we're almost about to start a relationship, so you thought for two years?
	I mean, we were attracted to each other for sure.
	He was attracted to me first, and then I grew attracted to him.
	Okay.
	Probably my lack of like self-esteem is probably the reason why we didn't really start a relationship.
	How do you have specific things?
	How does your lack of self-esteem manifest?
	I definitely would have gave him a chance to be my boyfriend because he wasn't to me first, but like I was just kind of afraid of what?
	Having your heart broken?
	That too, ultimately, yeah.
	But how does your self-esteem manifeste manifest?
	I just feel like, well, in general, I just feel like I'm not really attractive enough to most men.
	So that's why I didn't really.
	Sorry, it's complicated.
	I cannot be beautiful.
	Oh, thank you.
	There's one man that was attracted to you.
	You didn't think you were attracted enough to him.
	Or I felt like if we were to be in a relationship, I wouldn't be good enough for him.
	So that's why I didn't really.
	But was he pursuing a relationship with you?
	I think he was at first.
	And then he probably couldn't handle the fact that I was also going through some anxiety during the time.
	Sure.
	I feel like most guys wouldn't be able to handle a woman who has so much anxiety.
	Do you have panic attacks?
	Not panic attack, but I do overthink things a lot.
	Okay.
	And I don't think a guy would be able to put up with that.
	So I didn't really kind of.
	What are you doing to work on your anxiety?
	I do therapy through telemedicine once a week through Zoom.
	And I just kind of tell.
	Are you doing cognitive behavioral therapy?
	No, maybe I should try that.
	Are you seeing somebody who has expertise in panic attacks and anxiety?
	Or are you seeing a talk therapist?
	Are you seeing a talk therapist?
	Just the talk therapist, yeah.
	Okay, well.
	I think you should see somebody who specializes in treating anxiety disorders, but are you taking SSRIs or any, what's it called?
	Benzos or anything like that?
	I don't know what those are.
	Like Adivan, Lorazepam.
	That's typically.
	Psychiatric medicine, yeah.
	No, I don't, I don't, no, I don't think I've taken anything like that.
	I mean, anxiety can be treated without taking medication, but how long have you had anxiety for?
	I think it really peaked.
	Wait, we're not allowed to talk about this, though, right?
	It peaked in, like, 2020, I would say.
	Maybe.
	So like the pandemic.
	Yeah, a lot of people's anxiety peaked then.
	Like everyone is just.
	Yeah.
	Because I thought we weren't allowed to talk about COVID, so I was like.
	So you say you have very bad anxiety, and that makes it difficult for you to be in relationships with men.
	How precisely would that manifest?
	I mean, he is currently dating someone right now.
	Who's he?
	The two-year guy.
	so i think that you broke up with a month ago Were you in an open source?
	Wait, is there breaking up in situationships?
	Not really.
	Were you guys when we were off?
	I guess, okay, basically what we would do is like we'd see each other, hang out, and then maybe then a couple months later we'd see each other again.
	It was that kind of thing.
	But it was every couple of months?
	Around, yeah.
	I remember I kind of like disappeared for a year saying that like I don't I can't really hang out with you because I'm going through stuff.
	So like I kind of like we didn't really see each other for a year at one point and then like we slowly started seeing each other again and then but now he has a girlfriend so let me let me ask some clarifying questions so we can actually get an appropriate timeline.
	So two years ago, precisely about two years ago, you started talking to this guy, correct?
	No, it didn't start two years ago.
	Okay.
	I am so sorry.
	I went abroad to Spain actually.
	We were in the same study abroad group.
	Okay.
	I first knew him there.
	And then maybe like a year later he reached out to me saying, hey, let's hang out.
	Particular.
	Okay, so you were in Spain?
	I was in Spain.
	I met him there because we were part of the same study abroad group.
	And that was the summer of 2021?
	No, it was like beginning of 2020, like right before the pandemic hit.
	Oh, okay, right before the pandemic.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You met him in Spain.
	You were?
	We were in the same study abroad group.
	Okay, so you were friends for a little bit before?
	Right, like we got to know each other.
	I got to know pretty much everyone in that group, but then we all kind of just kind of grew apart because of the pandemic.
	So, you know, we weren't really allowed to go outside or anything like that.
	Okay.
	So how soon after meeting him did you guys start dating or hooking up or whatever?
	About a year after that.
	He reached out to me first because that's when I had transferred to USC and he saw my Snapchat story and he's like, hey, let's hang out.
	It's been a while.
	Okay, so in summer of 2021 is when you started the more like fall 2021.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	Like August, September.
	So two years ago.
	Yeah.
	How long did you Talk until there was the first off.
	Because you said it was an on-again, off-again relationship.
	Yeah, so we started talking.
	Situationship, I guess.
	Like, we've had intimate moments.
	And then it wasn't until after we got back from Vegas.
	That's when I couldn't really speak to him.
	Because I was going through stuff, so I told him, I can't really, I'm not really going to be hanging out with you.
	I'm going to disappear from the world.
	That's basically what I said.
	And how was that six months into how soon?
	After that, he reached out to me again in the summer of 2022.
	No, So you started dating him fall 2021.
	At what point was the vaguest thing and you guys were?
	Oh, like late October, around my birthday.
	So you guys had only been kind of linking up for what, two months or something?
	Two months, yeah, two months.
	Two months.
	And then you said, I can't see you anymore to him.
	Yeah, I was going through.
	So I don't want this to be like a therapy session, so I don't think I want to go into detail on why.
	You don't need to go into detail.
	So then you guys split up.
	Yeah.
	And then did you reach back out to him or he reached back out to you?
	He reached back out to me.
	When?
	Around like summer.
	Summer.
	Okay, you get back together.
	Yeah, we just like we saw each other like once in 2022.
	Yeah.
	You saw each other one time?
	Yeah, during the summer of 2022.
	And then you never, you stopped seeing each other again.
	Yeah, because he's also busy.
	The thing is, he would go on business trips every couple months or so.
	So it was really hard.
	And like my schedule, I was busy at that time too.
	Okay, so you saw him one time and then you didn't see him until again until I want to say around November.
	That's when the FIFA World Cup had started.
	I started posting videos and stuff about that, you know.
	And then he reached out to me again.
	And then how long were you guys you saw each other once again and then never talked?
	No, we saw each other a couple times after that and then like he we took a and then we like and then we stopped again because he had to go on a business trip.
	How old is he?
	He's two years younger than I am.
	He's younger than you and he's going on he's a businessman.
	Yeah, he didn't he didn't go to college.
	Okay, sure.
	I mean that's fine.
	So he was going on business trips.
	Okay.
	What kind of business?
	You know what?
	That's the thing I'm not entirely sure about.
	I know he also has a family business.
	Like I know he's going to take Vietnamese.
	No, he's Latino.
	He's Salvadorian.
	Was he going to Salvador?
	El Salvador.
	Oh, wow.
	For his business trip.
	I don't know about you, chat, but that sounds like a little bit of a bunch of things.
	What I'm perceiving, do you think that maybe he thought of it more as a friendship?
	Because I feel like guys would be attracted to a girl first.
	And if they're like, no, I don't want to be in a relationship, they'll still keep her around, keep a friendship with them until they find someone else.
	Maybe that's what it was.
	Because ultimately, he did find someone.
	Yeah, yeah.
	In the end.
	So you said you guys split up again.
	Split up, I guess.
	I don't know.
	A month ago.
	How long had you been seeing each other most recently?
	The last time I saw him was about a month ago, like in September.
	No, but okay, then did you said a month ago, but like how long?
	Before because when you say on again, off again, I'm thinking there's a continuity in how long you're seeing each other.
	So if you broke up a month ago, that was in September, maybe from June to September.
	Like I'm just trying to get a timeline here.
	Okay, I don't really like to say break up though, because we've never been in a formal relationship.
	I wouldn't consider that.
	We were friends, but we were also attracted to the business.
	You said on again, off again.
	Okay, maybe that's the wrong terminology then.
	So he would just come into your life and yeah, he will he would text me of course.
	He wouldn't just randomly show up and be like, hey, I'm back.
	But in none of these off-again periods, neither one of you would say, I no longer want to see you anymore, that type of thing.
	No.
	No, but earlier you said that You told him you don't want to be with him because you're going through things.
	Well, I didn't exactly say that, but I'm saying, like, oh, I don't really want to see anyone for a while.
	It wasn't just him.
	It was like just everyone.
	Like, I just, you know, wanted to kind of disappear.
	Okay, so in any case, you've been single your whole life.
	You've never been in a relationship.
	You've never had a boyfriend.
	No.
	Besides this guy, have there been any other guys?
	No, just him.
	Just him?
	Nothing?
	Not even another friends with benefits or another situationship?
	No, just him.
	Just him?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so from, and you're 23, is that correct?
	Or no, sorry, 22.
	About to turn 25, okay.
	Yeah.
	So 22 to 24.
	So.
	Why is that so hard to believe?
	It's not.
	It's just.
	So there's been no other guys in the picture.
	You seem a little shocked.
	No.
	Okay.
	I lost my virginity at 22.
	I put it all.
	Yeah.
	How.
	You knew.
	Oh, well, you knew him for a year.
	And then.
	How quickly after you guys started dating did you guys hook up?
	Like right away?
	Pretty much, like a couple weeks after.
	A couple weeks after?
	Yeah.
	And then.
	And then, so the first guy you hooked up with, he pretty much ghosted you or what?
	No, he didn't ghost me.
	He did tell me, like, oh, like, I'm actually seeing someone right now.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	So you're not on dating apps, are you?
	No.
	You, are you, there hasn't been a rebound?
	What do you mean?
	Like, there's been no other guys?
	No.
	She told you she doesn't.
	Yeah.
	I need to stay at home and watch TV shows and watch soccer content.
	That's what I do.
	I'm just putting it out there.
	Or football.
	I'm going to call it football, not soccer.
	The rest of the world calls it football.
	Well, I have some notes here that you provided before the show.
	The craziest story was that you used your dad's backup credit card to book a hotel to meet your friends with benefits, aka this guy.
	You drove on the freeway for the first time.
	Yeah, I guess I'm not sure.
	Meet my friend.
	Is this like clueless?
	No.
	Compared to the average person, I did get my driver's license pretty late.
	Okay.
	Even after getting my driver's license, I was never confident enough to drive on the freeway by myself.
	But because I wanted to see him and he wanted to see me, I took the risk and I just drove the freeway without any guidance.
	Okay.
	Sounds like clueless.
	You said that your dad found out about the card.
	Yeah, I was an idiot.
	What happened with your dad?
	Because you booked a hotel to meet your friends with benefits.
	Why didn't you go to his place or vice versa?
	He said his place was not available.
	Okay, the first.
	Okay, that was not the first time we hooked up though, actually.
	We hooked up before that.
	Okay.
	Keep going.
	That just startled me.
	I'm sorry.
	He paid for the first round.
	The first hotel?
	Like the first time.
	The prostitution?
	What?
	No.
	You're a prostitute.
	I'm not a prostitute.
	Oh, so sorry.
	I heard he paid for the first round.
	I got confused.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm hard of hearing.
	Did you go to?
	Women and men are splitting the bill 50-50 on a hotel room to hook up.
	Yeah, he paid for the first hotel.
	And then a couple days later.
	A couple days later.
	It was a phone.
	It's fine.
	So, okay.
	Stop.
	Just pick it up if you need to.
	Yeah, he paid for the first time.
	Well, he paid for the first hotel, and then I pay for the second hotel.
	I told him.
	Wait, you lost your.
	Wait, please.
	was it oh god you You lost your virginity in a hotel.
	I guess that bad?
	Was it a motel?
	Was it the hotel?
	It's actually super common to lose your virginity in a whole lot.
	Is it?
	Yeah, I know a couple people.
	Oh, you know the stats?
	I guess.
	Oh, no.
	Are there stats on this?
	Was it a three-star hotel, four-star hotel, five?
	I think it was like four stars.
	Was it four-star?
	It was in San Diego.
	I'm like, yeah, it was a nice hotel.
	San Denis.
	Okay, all right.
	Wait, you drove all the way over there?
	Yeah, for the first time.
	I drove the freeway for the first time.
	Does he live with his family?
	Was that the problem?
	Yeah, he does live with his parents, actually, because he does his business with his dad.
	Okay, I got it.
	But what's the whole situation with your dad?
	Well, he found out about it, because I guess he probably saw the transactions.
	You know, I was an idiot.
	I should have known not to use that, but I did it because I wanted to see him.
	But like, you know, but since it was a second round, I wanted, I offered to pay for the hotel, to book it, because I thought it would be fair that way.
	That whole thing sounds like a big mistake.
	No, I do think it's a good idea.
	But so your dad came to the hotel?
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, he found out later.
	He found out a couple days later when he actually, because he lives in Florida.
	He came to California to visit me.
	It was like during parents' weekend.
	He found out about the hotel.
	He was asking me, where is this place?
	And like, I was honestly, it was so awkward.
	I just wanted to get out of the car because I didn't want to explain why I used his credit card and why I spent like almost $120 on it.
	And I told both my mom and my dad the truth about the whole like card thing.
	And then he got out of the car and like left because he was so upset.
	He started crying.
	And then my mom was like, you need to go follow him and get him back.
	So I tried to, I got out of the car as well.
	I told him like, I'm sorry.
	Like, please come back.
	And then my dad told me to get lost.
	And then he said he wouldn't come back to LA again after what I did.
	When was this?
	A year ago?
	Two years ago?
	This is two years ago.
	So what did you tell your parents?
	What are the words that come out of your mouth?
	Yeah, I told them that I had sex with my friend from Spain.
	Did you need to go into that much detail?
	I mean, that's something I don't really know.
	I think going into detail would be like, well, here's the position that we do.
	No, I don't know what I mean.
	Like, I met up with this guy.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Why do you need to say that?
	Sorry, Especially when you're explaining it to your father.
	We did some Kama Sutra shit.
	I can't lie.
	I don't think fathers like to think about their daughters in context.
	I know, but I didn't know.
	How was I supposed to lie?
	No, you don't need to lie.
	I met up with one of my friends.
	Well, no, they knew.
	My mom knew.
	She's not dumb.
	She knew that.
	Did your mom knew why?
	Did you drop it to the hotel?
	No, I drove myself.
	But you obviously lost your virginity too that night, right?
	Yeah.
	So it was a big deal for you, probably.
	And your brain is probably just spitting things out.
	No, no, no.
	The first time the guy paid for it.
	This is a second hotel thing.
	But it's still the same guy.
	Yeah, it's the same guy.
	So just so I can recapture what happened, second time you're hooking up with a guy, you book a hotel.
	Your dad, I guess it's your dad's credit card or something.
	He sees the statement on his credit card.
	He asks you about it, asking you why did you book a hotel.
	You explain to him that you're going to meet your fuck buddy, I guess.
	And so you tell him that, and then he's going to be a little bit more distracted.
	No, okay, I didn't voluntarily say it.
	My mom asked, did you go see a guy?
	Because she kind of knew what was up.
	And I told her yes.
	That's all I said.
	Okay.
	I said yes.
	And so your dad, did he disown you?
	He didn't disown me, but he was upset with me for a while.
	What was he upset by?
	The credit card thing or the fact that you hooked up with the dad?
	That I hooked up with a dude.
	It wasn't the money component?
	No, it's just the fact that I hooked up with the dude.
	They around me ball donated $100.
	Oof.
	Yeah, that's really all I have to say.
	So how long was your dad mad for?
	About like a week, week and a half.
	And then he.
	Okay.
	I wrote a really long apology.
	That was a text.
	Can we read it?
	Oh, my God.
	The text?
	But is that too prying?
	Is that a little bit of a little bit just a little because I thought this was supposed to be like a trauma-dumping session?
	Wouldn't that be like a little bit of a drink?
	That's the only one this has felt like.
	I don't know.
	I can feel a little bad.
	We're kind of like picking at her.
	Yeah, dear dad.
	Did you write it in?
	Is your dad Korean?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm full Korean.
	Both of my parents.
	Did you speak Korean?
	It was in English.
	Okay, just...
	Was that racist, though?
	Did I have something?
	No, no, no.
	It was not unnecessary.
	I was just curious.
	No, I was asking because if we wanted to read the letter, if it's in Korean, I don't think my audience would understand.
	I think it's a good idea.
	Or she could translate.
	Oh, she could translate.
	Yeah, I could translate it.
	I can summarize it.
	Is it a text message?
	Or was it a handwritten letter?
	No, it was a text message.
	Text message?
	Yeah.
	Chat, should we read it?
	Chat, do we read the letter?
	I love it.
	I have to scroll all the way back to two years ago to get a little bit more.
	You can look up keywords on the messenger search.
	Chat, do we read the starting of privacy?
	I'm just curious.
	I'm curious.
	Are you comfortable with that?
	She's comfortable.
	Okay, okay.
	You answered her words.
	How come they didn't I do you when you brought the card to the hotel?
	Don't they usually like ask for I dream?
	Yeah, how did you how did you I think the desk people were probably racist and because of the crazy rich agent they didn't they didn't know I mean they were Chinese so okay whatever I don't know um we're getting in the ball for a while.
	Yeah, let's answer one super chat about like what do you bring to the table or whatever.
	Let's get everybody's relationship status.
	Mary, if you can tell us really quick.
	I already did.
	I'm in my first relationship.
	Only relationships about a year long.
	Okay.
	This is my second relationship.
	It's been about sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	For a little over a year.
	A year and almost two months.
	Yo, what's up, Frankie?
	I don't know.
	He watches.
	I don't know, I see.
	Yeah, he's the homie.
	Okay.
	Let's do some chats and then we'll get into some of our conversations.
	Did you cry a little bit?
	For her?
	I saw the ring.
	Are you guys engaged or just like a punch?
	Oh, it's just a promise.
	That's cute.
	It's really pretty.
	Nick, show the ring.
	Can you show the ring?
	It's really pretty.
	Thank you.
	Wait, why would you guys?
	Why should she cry for me?
	Huh?
	Wait, what?
	Isn't that what Yasi said?
	Like, oh, for her, were you pointing at me, Brian?
	What?
	Oh, fuck.
	You know what?
	Never mind.
	Can I forget it?
	Move on.
	Move on.
	I'm very confused.
	Fuck, I can't get the ring off.
	Uh-oh.
	Wait, fuck.
	Do you have a marriage?
	He is struggling.
	Oh, fuck.
	Okay, thank God.
	I put the ring on to be fucking.
	You looked like you're going to cry.
	I was scared.
	I'm like getting.
	It's your trip to the ER and then you see the flame at the ER.
	Oh, my God.
	That's great.
	Okay.
	You were telling the truth.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Let me do a couple chats here.
	Yeah, I literally, fucking literally.
	All right, let me get a couple chats here.
	Violet, could you read this one for me?
	Mary, great question.
	When I was single, I looked specifically for an ambitious, motivated woman that held high standards and good morals.
	Married at 35.
	My wife was 24.
	That's good.
	17 years in and super happy.
	Waited five years to have our son when we could afford it.
	Yeah.
	What was that?
	That's good.
	That's a great age difference.
	Boom.
	Wait, what was it the question, though?
	What was that?
	Yo.
	Oh, by the way, AB check, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	I don't know why it's not triggering.
	I'll have to check that after the stream.
	Thank you for the gifted memberships, man.
	Can you read this one, Violet?
	Ladies, there are two men you are attracted to.
	They have the same physical qualities, the same amount of money, $170,000 per year, and have a good personality.
	However, one is a lawyer and one is a plumber.
	Which one are you picking?
	Interesting question.
	We'll go around the table on that.
	Let's start with you, Violet.
	Go ahead.
	I have to choose one.
	I'd probably go for the, oh.
	Probably the lawyer.
	They're both very time-consuming, right?
	My dad's a plumber.
	They make the same amount of money.
	Yeah, so I wonder which one's going to be away from home more because I do want to have like 7 to 9, like 7 a.m. to 9 p.m.
	Your dad's a plumber.
	No, it's a plumber.
	Oh, plumber.
	Yeah, he has his own company.
	Because lawyers can have cases and be stressed out, and you got to support them through that.
	I imagine the plumber's job is less time consuming.
	I don't know.
	It's just dirty.
	It seems more like a simple life.
	Lawyer, like, you might have some, yeah, just struggling with your husband being sad.
	Whoever I have the better connection with, so...
	Yeah, but he's...
	Is it, like, is everything the same except for the occupation?
	Violet, can you read it one more time?
	Hold on.
	Basically.
	Pretty much.
	Ladies, there are two men you are attracted to.
	They have the same amount of physical qualities, make the same amount of money, $170K per year, and have a good personality.
	However, one is a lawyer and one is a plumber.
	Which one are you picking?
	Hmm.
	I mean, I guess the lawyer.
	Because they make more money.
	No, but they make the same.
	They make a lot of money.
	They make the same money.
	So it's literally you're just choosing between do you want him to be a lawyer or a plumber?
	It's like kind of, yeah, stat.
	I mean, obviously, there's going to be probably the educational accomplishments of the lawyer.
	He's had to get his JD.
	He's probably done undergrad, a plumber.
	He's in the trade, so probably, you know, if education's important to you, perhaps.
	And also, I think the crux of the question is attorneys, typically, there's a bit more prestige, there's a bit more status there than the plumber.
	Not to say plumbers are fantastic people and they're incredibly important to society.
	That's not what I'm trying to say.
	But yes, I think generally speaking, lawyers tend to, it's a more prestigious job.
	I go with the lawyer.
	Okay, what about you?
	The plumber.
	You're just saying that because your friend's dad's a plumber?
	No.
	Because I would be less likely to get divorced.
	Lawyers like to argue a lot.
	Okay, that's fair.
	What about you?
	Do I have to pick one?
	I just don't really feel like it's my place to pick.
	What do you mean?
	It's not your place to pick.
	Okay, I'll be lawyer.
	Sure.
	Lawyer.
	We'll just go with lawyer.
	I'll go with the person that has similar interests as me.
	That's not really the question, though.
	They both have sexuality.
	We've asked the question two times.
	Everything's the same but that.
	They have a good personality.
	You're attracted to both.
	One's a lawyer, one's a plumber.
	Okay, um, I don't know.
	One eternity thing.
	Just choose lawyer or plumber.
	Pretty good.
	I'll pick the lawyer.
	All right.
	Me next?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	I really don't care.
	I think the plumber is more of a self-starter, knows more about starting a business, could teach kids that.
	The lawyer might have more social connections that will also help the kids.
	It's about the kids.
	I don't know.
	I really don't care.
	You have to pick.
	I just don't care.
	You gotta pick.
	I can't.
	You gotta pick.
	I feel like you can pick.
	It's would you rather?
	I would do like eeny meeny mini mo at that point.
	And then who would you end on?
	Damn, y'all, this really isn't that complicated.
	No, it's a question.
	Lawyer or plumber.
	We're ready to go.
	I don't know, plumber?
	I feel like I'd probably pick the lawyer.
	I don't know.
	I could be wrong about this, but I feel like lawyers' job positions are a little more consistent and staple, I would say.
	People are always going to have broken toys.
	I was gonna say like people always need you said last time you're a lot of corporate guys also Also, being a lawyer might have moral implications where you have to defend a criminal.
	Wait, what's wrong with that?
	That's their job.
	Yeah, it's their job, but it just has complications when it comes to the ethics of moral defense.
	So wait, you think criminal defense attorneys are immoral?
	No, I didn't say that.
	I just said it has ethical complications.
	But what are the even a lawyer who knows his client is guilty, even somebody who it's evident that they're guilty, they still deserve having a there's I'm butchering this, but you still deserve being represented by attorney who can make sure to protect your rights when it comes to the judicial system and make sure there's there's no fuck, I'm totally butchering the yeah, but if you're defending OJ, you have to live with that still, right?
	As a lawyer.
	I'm okay with your job, but you still have the list still works.
	I'm just saying, do I want to marry someone who is a criminal defense attorney?
	Maybe not.
	The correct answer was lawyer.
	There was a correct answer.
	Yeah, but you could also argue like a criminal defense attorney might also defend somebody who's innocent too.
	I mean, people who are criminal defense attorneys have many, many clients throughout their entire career, some of which who might be guilty, some of which who might be innocent.
	But ultimately, fuck, I can't, there's like a precise explanation for this, but even if you know that the client is guilty, they still deserve adequate and fair legal representation through the criminal justice system.
	I can't.
	So you're saying innocent until proven guilty?
	No.
	I'm not saying that they don't deserve that.
	I'm just saying, do I want to be married to the criminal defense attorney?
	Maybe not.
	Maybe he's more likely to have a relativistic worldview about morality.
	No, but I guess what I'm saying, even people who are actually guilty of the crimes they commit are deserving of a vigorous legal defense.
	Yes.
	But do I want to marry the guy defending them?
	I don't think so.
	But I don't think it's immoral to choose to defend somebody who's guilty of a crime.
	I'm not saying that's necessary.
	Okay, anyways, this is now the whatever legal podcast.
	But hold on.
	So we have grid one motorsports.
	Mary asked earlier that before you got into what women offered men, what men looked for in women, so I answered.
	Oh, okay.
	This goes back to his previous chat of.
	It was ambition, motivation, ambitious, motivated woman that held high standards and good morals.
	He said he's married at 35.
	My wife was 24, 17 years in and super happy.
	Waited five years to have her son and could afford it.
	Grid one, appreciate it.
	Let me get the rest of the chats here.
	Can you read this one, Violet?
	Here for Mary and Violet.
	Mary, love you for Pop Culture Crisis and the occasional Tim Cast IRL appearance.
	Thanks.
	Violet is kind of based since she comments and likes on Tim Cast posts on IG occasionally.
	Pick up on any good cards recently, Violet?
	Go, sons.
	I have not been card shopping lately, actually.
	I've been very much into nature, so I will let you know.
	I am sending out my Violet card soon, by the way, if anyone's watching.
	Did you have a response at all to D.B. Hart?
	Is it based to like my boss's Instagram posts?
	I don't know.
	I don't like them.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I wouldn't say that.
	I don't particularly care.
	Can you read this one, Violet?
	Brian, Halloween stream panel in the costumes, and you are full Dr. Evil cosplay with a bald cap and all.
	Staying character with the whole stream.
	The whole stream.
	Are we doing a show on Halloween?
	Maybe too.
	Are you going to have a cast?
	We should.
	We definitely should.
	Yo, Conan, thank you, man.
	Your costume should be holding up a fish.
	Yeah, it should.
	Doctor Evil, but he's putting evil.
	Dr. Evil.
	You are in full Doctor Evil cosplay.
	Oh, yeah.
	I haven't done the Doctor Evil voice in a minute.
	Should I just do it the rest of the stream?
	Doctor Evil.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	Actually, don't.
	Actually, don't.
	Yo, Hector Rodriguez.
	Go ahead, Violet.
	Mexicans come are mixed.
	Whoa.
	Inappropriate.
	So like, that threw me off.
	Mexicans come are mixed and Spaniard and Native American.
	Some of the Mexicans have African too.
	I am 3% sub-Saharan African Congo, apparently.
	Nope.
	All right, we have Graz City.
	Can you read this one, Violet?
	Race and ethnicity are different.
	Hispanic, Latino is an ethnicity.
	White, black, Asians are examples of races.
	The difference is that race is contrived based on how someone looks, while ethnicity is tangible identity based on your genetic and or geographic heritage.
	Thank you.
	There you have it.
	All right, Graz City, thank you very much.
	This is about a dating anthropology.
	Keep going.
	No, I'm laughing at him.
	Go ahead, anthropology.
	So, last one: ethnicity has a culture aspect to it, while race solely deals with the physical visual observations.
	Latino is anyone who is culturally from anywhere in Latin America.
	Hispanics and Spanish descent.
	Hispanic is Spanish descent.
	Sorry, I messed up.
	Thank you, Graz City.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for clarifying that.
	We are appreciate the input.
	Yo, Josh Berg, thank you very much.
	Mary, Violet supports Tim Cast with the I Am Gorilla t-shirt.
	Yeah.
	I'm confused.
	I have all of this merch.
	I am also confused because I have no idea what that is.
	It's from Alex Jones.
	Yeah, Alex Jones, and he has the I Am Gorilla shirt from there.
	Word.
	Word.
	Oh, was there something we had to react to?
	I'm trying to remember.
	It was the what we bring to the table.
	What we think that's the.
	Yeah, I need to get up really quick, but if everybody here wants to go around on that, so what do you bring to the table in a relationship?
	I wanted to ask you the question.
	I feel like we should have an answer to bring to the table.
	When I have a relationship that I want to be in, I will bring children, love, communication, support, etc.
	And lots and lots of videos on the internet of you having sex with other men.
	Oh, yeah, there's a few.
	Damn.
	You bring that to the table too.
	Thank you, Mary.
	My turn?
	Loyalty, honesty, caring.
	Very funny.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I'm like put on the spot.
	Now that I don't have like Brian commentating, I'm like, do I just answer and move on?
	How would you guys react if like a guy on a date asked you that question face-to-face though, not a super chat?
	I don't know.
	To be off-putting?
	A little bit.
	It's just like first date, and you're already asking me that.
	Like, who are you?
	Yeah, you just have to wait to find out, you know?
	That is a good question.
	Like, when do you start asking those questions if you're serious, you know, and you're looking when you start asking those serious questions?
	Because obviously, it can be very you get to know a person and then you find like genuinely getting to know them what they bring to the table.
	No, like I get asking that question like later on in the talking stage, but like first date, that's like, why do you want to know?
	Yeah, like that's the whole thing.
	I feel like some men that are looking for very serious relationships will ask that question.
	They're just like ready because they don't want to waste time.
	Yeah.
	But what are the things you can look for to like avoid people that aren't going to align with you later down?
	Like, what's something I can look for on the first date and be like, oh, that right there, you're done.
	You know, because I, yeah, is there anything like that I can look for on a first date?
	You know what?
	I'm going to weep out if they're nice to like the server who's taking your order.
	Like if they say please and thank you, things like that.
	Well, I feel like some girls have an issue with whoever pays on the first date.
	Like, did you have a preference last time we asked you that question?
	I definitely said I wanted him to pay, especially just because I am already expecting it and I don't want the awkwardness there.
	I feel like a lot of women will say that it is a turn off if a guy doesn't pay on the first date.
	So that's like one thing I guess a girl would look for in a man is for them to be paying on dates and things like that.
	But that's a good one.
	We need to finish with the question.
	What you bring to the table?
	Oh, honestly, I think I'm a really good caregiver.
	Like even to my roommates, I would be a very good caregiver.
	Loyal and just try to have my shit together.
	Yeah.
	I think I'm a really fun, like outgoing, bubbly person.
	I'm very random.
	So I'm funny.
	10 seconds Sammy, right?
	Yeah, 10 seconds Sammy.
	Like, it is, I'm always doing something.
	I just, I personally think that I'm a really awesome person.
	No, yeah, I kind of agree.
	I'm the same way.
	Like, I feel like I have a big sense of humor.
	Like, when you get to go get to know me, but then, like, also, I feel like honesty and loyalty is like the bare minimum that anyone could really bring to the table.
	And I feel like you could always build off of that and build, branch out, you know.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I think also I would consider myself loyal if I were to be in a relationship, and I think also empathetic.
	Like, if my future husband is having a hard time, I'll be, you know, I'll be willing to listen to him say his thoughts.
	So, okay.
	I have a really strong desire to be a mother, so I definitely want to have a lot of children.
	I have really strong moral convictions and a coherent worldview.
	I think I'm capable of being an intellectual sparring partner.
	I'm also saving myself for marriage, and I likewise expect someone who's a very good person.
	Why waste time if all a girl can bring is sex, a bunch of baggage from failed relationships, and a sense of entitlement?
	Men that will make good partners want good partners, so you need to endeavor to be one.
	Was there a question in that?
	Sorry, continue on, Mary.
	Thank you, Grid1 Motorsports.
	Appreciate it.
	Sorry, you were saying?
	Well, I was just saying that I really value my chastity, and I expect that the person I marry also sees that as a valuable thing about me.
	Sure.
	I feel like I'm also very loyal and honest.
	I'm a really good caretaker, like you said.
	I also plan on being, I hope to be a mother, obviously, so a lot of kids as well.
	I can, I'm a really good cook.
	I can clean.
	I am a really good listener, etc.
	Got it.
	I need to, I actually have a video of kind of what I think would be like super based when it comes to looking.
	Oh, beaten cheeks donated $99.
	Ladies on the panel, disregard for Violet as she is in adult films.
	If a man asks you for your body count on the first date, do you think it would be fair for you to ask how big his no-no place is?
	I am all for this as I am not Asian or a white.
	I am all for this.
	I am not Asian or white.
	Aren't you?
	Okay.
	So, to the panel, and we will come back to the what you bring to the table discussion.
	His chat was: if a guy asks you your body count on the first date, do you think it'd be fair for you to ask him how big his wang is?
	His willie?
	His dong?
	It doesn't matter what he's asking.
	That's either of those weird things.
	Yeah, that's neither of these.
	Both are just very.
	We were just talking about how simply asking, like, what do you bring to the table is a weird question to ask on the first date.
	Asking how to do that.
	It's a loaded question.
	As long as I feel like that's even weirder.
	Asking sexual questions on a first date will literally intend that you are just trying to have sex with someone.
	But hold on, Madison.
	What?
	But I mean.
	So first date, you ask, what are your intentions?
	You know what I mean?
	But what?
	You know what I mean, Madison?
	Come on.
	Okay, whatever.
	What's up?
	Like, is that a good question to ask?
	What are your intentions?
	And then you can learn about them.
	Because that's what a dad asks.
	Just to address beaten cheeks here, he's asking, if a man asks you the body count question, do you think it would be fair to ask about his women aren't interested in that information?
	I think it would be fair.
	Yeah, there's some size queens out there.
	Some girls care about, they want a giant.
	I mean, if you're going to ask me a personal question, I could ask you a personal question, so I think it's fair.
	I don't have to answer, so like, I mean, if you're not.
	No, I'm not asking if you.
	Okay, I'm not asking if you.
	But do you think it would be fair for a woman to ask about that if a guy's kind of maybe being, in your view, prying about body count?
	Yeah, I think it depends like the way he's.
	It's not that cold, Violet.
	Come on.
	Or like the tone.
	No excuses, play like a champion.
	Rule number 76: no excuses, play with a kid.
	I love his flannel.
	Okay.
	So yeah, it just depends like in the way he's asking, I guess.
	The way he's asking?
	You know, like the tone.
	Yeah, I think that matters too.
	He's asking it in a very polite way, in as polite a way as possible.
	Excuse me.
	Genuine body.
	Excuse me, miss.
	How many hot dogs have been through the hallway?
	How many peas are in the V. Oh, it also depends on the reaction.
	Yeah.
	The reaction you get.
	That's huge.
	Reaction.
	Very important.
	Yeah.
	What if the reaction's like, damn.
	That was the reaction.
	Damn.
	I'd be like, what if like he's, you tell it to him and, like, a single tear just starts streaming down his face?
	Yeah.
	Like, I'm too late or what?
	Huh?
	No, like, you're like, heyo, Gustavo.
	Not because you're Latina, well, just, that's what just came to mind, okay?
	I'm not, I'm not.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Keep going.
	My body counts 50.
	If you said that.
	And just like a single tear just starts streaming down his eye.
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't want to comfort him.
	Like, um, why are you at the end?
	He asks for it.
	And why is he going to cry on the first date?
	He barely knows you.
	Never mind.
	Point being, yeah, I don't know what a good reaction would be.
	Okay.
	Like, what it'd be like, high five.
	Like, I don't.
	Me too.
	I don't get that.
	I think it's actually more appropriate.
	Of the two questions, I think asking body count on the first date would be more appropriate than asking the guy his piece.
	Definitely.
	Because I think the corresponding question would be a for the girl asking the guy how big his D is would be how tight is your P.
	That would be like the equivalent question.
	So but I definitely think it's more appropriate to ask body count than about someone's.
	Do you see that on those dates?
	I mean, I'll usually ask pretty early on because it's important to me.
	On a first date, you're like, what's hold up a microphone?
	You're like, what's your body count?
	Yeah, I hold up a microphone because I'm recording for my new YouTube series, Fuck Boy Friday.
	Is that literally how you execute that question?
	Like, what's your body count?
	No, I mean, I'll go about it in as graceful a way as possible.
	But yeah, that's something I'd like to know early on because if it's a deal breaker for me, it's in the same way that you might, like, people often advise, okay, you shouldn't talk about politics, religion, and fuck money, I think, is the other thing.
	What else is there to talk about?
	Well, exactly, but what I'm saying is, I actually think on the first date, unless you're just trying to fuck, but I'm not just, I have no interest in sleeping with a girl once, so perhaps it'd be a good advice if my motivation is to just fuck a girl and not talk to her again or just keep her around for sex without having any long-term interest in her, then yeah, maybe I shouldn't find out what her values are.
	Maybe I shouldn't ask what her past sexual experience is.
	But for me, those things are important, so I'd rather know earlier on than wait till the third date and, oh, okay, there's this major red flag that I could have found out on the first date, but we've just wasted a bunch of time, so I'd much rather get through with it, like know early on.
	So I feel like context clues really give you the answer before you even ask anyway.
	Yeah.
	What I would say is the other thing is even if you do ask, someone, whether it could be man or woman, might lie about their past, their past in general, their past sexual experiences.
	So yeah, I 100% agree with you.
	There are other indicators that you can look towards to see, is this somebody who do I align with them on our values?
	Does this person seem like they were promiscuous in the past?
	There's other indicators you can look for.
	And certainly you should look at those other indicators too.
	Look someone in the eyes and if they have that blank stare.
	Yes.
	I think it's called the thousand cock stare.
	What?
	That's the one we have a thousand cock stare.
	You've seen, I'm sure you've seen it.
	It's just that dead in the eyes look that some people have, typically women.
	Although there are some gay men who also have the thousand cock stare.
	But some people ask that.
	I was going to say, I feel like you have a death stare and your death stare.
	But yeah, it doesn't make sense.
	Mary has like that Aubrey Plaza kind of chill, like dry.
	She doesn't have the thousand...
	It's not like Death Steer, but it's like, you can tell it's like...
	Oh, look, it's Klebus.
	I haven't seen that guy in a fucking year.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, Mary.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I finished already.
	I was just saying, like, your stare looks more pure than like death.
	You know what I mean?
	It's a pure death stare versus a malicious death stare.
	I don't know.
	Okay, where were we?
	I'm trying to remember where we were here.
	I wanted to ask you what you think women should bring to the table.
	Oh, the video you're talking about.
	You have to show us a video and not answer yourself.
	Yeah, I think I, Nick, if you're able to pull up the email tab on another tab, there's a, on the very top bar, there's a Gmail thing.
	Pull up the Gmail.
	I sent an Instagram link, if you can pull that up.
	It's a bit, I mean, it's obviously very exaggerated, but whatever is going on in that relationship is based as fuck.
	So what do women, what should women bring to the table?
	I think a big thing is peace.
	A lot of men, we go out into the world, especially if you're chasing after like a really successful guy.
	You know, a lot of men have stressful lives.
	We don't want our girlfriend to add to that stress.
	So I think it's a very common complaint you hear from men of like girlfriends nagging, girlfriends never being satisfied with whatever the situation is.
	So I think one of the biggest things you can bring is peace to a relationship.
	Okay, follow-up then.
	Sure.
	What should a woman do to address a real problem in the relationship without disturbing the peace?
	Well, one, I would say, and men can also do this too, but sometimes you can jump the gun on an issue.
	And sometimes I do think taking time to meditate on something and thinking about, is this really an issue?
	Is this really going to bother me in two or three days?
	So instead of like.
	I'm not going to grant it that it is an issue.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, my first line of advice would be meditate on a potential major issue for a little bit of time.
	Sometimes people like immediately want to, at the slightest grievance, want to start an argument.
	And I say, sometimes it's best to just pull back, be like, is this really worth arguing about?
	Am I really upset about this?
	So I think taking a bit of time first, but what would be an example of a legitimate issue that a woman encounters that she would bring to her boyfriend or partner or whatever?
	Well, I guess the context of whether or not they're married definitely matters here.
	You expect different things of a husband than of a fiancé or of a boyfriend.
	Sure.
	What if it's the infamous female friends issue?
	What if she thinks it's inappropriate for him to hang out with female friends one-on-one?
	And he seemingly sees no issue with it.
	How does she bring this up with him without disturbing the peace of their relationship that men value so much?
	Because to me, what it sounds like is you're just saying, you know, if you try to address any problem in a relationship with a guy, you're disturbing the peace, so you're not adding value.
	That's not what I said.
	That's not what I said.
	But I want to know.
	Sure.
	Certainly there are legitimate things that could come up in a relationship that are genuine concerns, and those certainly ought to be discussed and talked about.
	And hopefully both partners can come to an understanding and a resolution, whether that's one person having a better understanding, both people having a better understanding, or whichever side makes a compromise, I think that's fine.
	But I do think it is often the case, you don't often hear husbands complaining, or excuse me, you don't often hear wives complaining about their nagging husbands.
	You often hear husbands complaining about their nagging wives.
	Similarly, I mean, you're a Christian, right?
	Proverbs 21, 19, a quarrelsome, it's better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
	There's a reason that you typically hear this as a gendered thing where it's one side.
	I do think it happens to be the case that typically men generally, I think, tend to otherwise be happy, satisfied with the status quo of a relationship.
	Whereas I do think women tend to get bored.
	They tend to, there's little nitpicky things that, look, men can- I think women are just passive.
	So, like, I think in order to not get in a fight, if you're trying to tell them, like, hey, this sucks or you're doing this wrong, women should try to not like be just passive-aggressive.
	Do you mean passive or passive-aggressive?
	Passive-aggressive, like, oh, just kind of like making little comments, letting things build up, and then you're like, okay, this is my pushing breaking point.
	Well, I think that when women are, I guess, okay, how do I put this?
	Women tend to grab for control in a relationship, and men make a mistake of being too passive in a relationship.
	Like, not just in a relationship, but in life.
	If you're not examining yourself and you're not trying to constantly become a more virtuous person, what that looks like for women is like constantly wanting to control everything, and because that's not the natural posture of a woman's nature.
	And then for a man, that looks like being passive, letting things happen to you instead of taking action.
	So that's not the natural posture of what a man should be doing in his life.
	So it's sort of the opposite.
	I mean, I've had, for example, I've had situations where trying to think of an example.
	I've dated a girl and she got upset that I wasn't texting her as frequently as she would like.
	There's probably other examples I can think of, but and then I just ignored it.
	And then two days later, she's like, oh, hey, sorry, I was just kind of being emotional.
	Like, I don't know why I was upset.
	I think that she was able to introspect, but a lot of people aren't able to do that.
	I think a lot of women, when going about protecting your peace in a relationship, is to not go about it so aggressively, kind of like you said, is to take time and actually assess why it is a problem and why it's an issue with you and why it doesn't sit well with you.
	And just going about it very, very calmly.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
	Mary, if my wife asked me not to go out with the boys and made legit points, I would not go.
	It is simple respect.
	Men should be stoic, but we often fail at that with the women we love.
	Men must be the rock your anger crashes against, but does no harm.
	Or you could just get a peaceful fucking woman.
	But sometimes there are correct reasons to be angry.
	Sure, and the higher the stakes get, the more likely it is to happen.
	Sure.
	I think that the thing, though, with peace is why it's so important is sometimes you run a really chaotic and stressful dating podcast and you just need to go home and have a home-cooked meal and not have a woman nagging you.
	I get it.
	Right.
	And A quarrelsome woman is enough to upend your life, but and also like getting into a bit more of an extreme here.
	If you add mental illness into the picture, that could absolutely ruin your life.
	So, and perhaps it's like in the same way that we say, well, loyalty and companionship, that's the bare minimum of a relationship.
	I also think it happens to be the case, the bare minimum of a relationship is you're not cut, like, well, my recommendation to men is to not date women with severe mental illness.
	Good idea.
	So, I'm talking bipolar, BPD, any cluster B personality disorders, APD, BPD, as I mentioned, HPD, NPD.
	Nickelodeon donated $99.
	Men are tired of arguing with theo wives until they have to accept their wives are right, whether they are or not.
	Women learn to accept that you're not always right.
	Take a time out and come back to the argument and decide, is it really worth it?
	Nickelodeon.
	Yeah, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	So, okay.
	I mean, again, I'm getting into some.
	I'm trying to think where I want to go with this.
	Did you want to list other things that women should bring to the table?
	Other things they can bring to the table.
	I mean, peace is huge.
	Yes, I'm not saying it's not.
	I just want to either say that you're quick to, like, people in relationships are quick to go after each other because they're like life partners, and so they're doing everything together.
	And so they're quick to go at each other and be like, oh, you're just doing it wrong.
	But it's just because they're frustrated or they're going through a stressful time.
	I'm not saying that if I'm dating a girl and there's some sort of issue that she can't bring it to me and we can't resolve that in a perfectly amicable way.
	But not all women are guilty of this.
	Sorry, some motorcycles are going by.
	They heard you say that.
	Yeah.
	So, sorry, guys.
	I don't know if you guys can hear the motorcycles.
	So, what was I saying?
	Fuck it.
	Sorry, I lost my train of thought.
	She can bring an issue up, and that's fine.
	Yeah, she can bring an issue up, but I do think that there are just, and this is more so just avoiding these types of people in general.
	And certainly there are men that can absolutely upend women's lives too.
	You just need to be very careful with who you choose to date and associate with.
	So one of the biggest things I think a woman can bring to the table is peace.
	So basically, just essentially being pleasant.
	But certainly, like, going into some of those heavier things, I mean, I'd recommend men.
	And again, I think this is just the bare minimum.
	It's kind of obvious.
	It's kind of self-evident.
	But no alcohol addiction, no drug addiction, no self-deleting ideation.
	I mean, how about some positive things, though?
	Peace is a very positive thing that a woman can bring to the past.
	Okay, some other things.
	I want your the first time I meet you, I want your undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	So a lot of people, the way they move, they've got, they're talking to three people at the same time.
	They're sleeping with two of them.
	When I meet a girl, one of the things that you can bring to the table, and in years, in years past, this used to be the bare minimum you can do, but it's actually, I think it's rather rare today for you to meet a girl and she's not talking to other men.
	She's properly single.
	She's not sleeping with other dudes.
	She didn't just hook up with a guy last week and now she's on a date with you.
	So from the jump, I want your undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	All the other guys, all the other guys, once you meet me, if we go on the first date afterwards, it should be a wrap.
	Oh, wait, I have a question.
	That's something you can bring to the table for me anyway.
	Said a woman should bring sex to the table after her first date.
	No, that's not what I said.
	I'm saying a lot of women, the way they move, is they're talking, they've got situationships, they've got sneaky links, they're talking to a bunch of men.
	I think something that's rare nowadays, which I guess at least in the past wasn't rare, is not seeing and fucking a bunch of other dudes.
	So I do think that in years past, that might have been the expectation when first meeting somebody that you're not fucking a bunch of other people.
	However, due to, again, I think it is the bare minimum you can bring, but it is something a woman can bring to the table.
	If I know a girl isn't sleeping with a bunch of other dudes, isn't talking to a bunch of dudes, and is actually going to pursue me the same way I'm going to pursue her for a long-term relationship early on.
	That is something that a woman can bring to the table.
	And I would say a lot of women in today's day and age are not bringing what in years past was the bare minimum of undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	See, but this was so overcomplicated by casual sex being introduced into dating.
	Because I feel like, think about like stereotypes that you have in your head about how people dated in like the 50s and the 60s.
	There were girls who were talking to a lot of guys back when the word talking actually meant you're just talking to them, not you're hooking up with a bunch of people.
	And that wasn't a big deal because you were genuinely using dating to get to know people.
	And now it seems like the word dating is just used to say, I'm, you know, sleeping away.
	Sleeping with a bunch of people.
	Like, it's completely changed the definition of everything.
	And like, that overcomplicates it.
	I don't think that someone should give you their undivided sexual attention before marriage.
	And I think that sex outside of marriage and that becoming acceptable in society has just totally turned everything upside down and overcomplicated dating to the point where it's not facilitating people getting into long-lasting relationships.
	But I do think it's fair to say that sexual attention should be in relationships rather than casually.
	I would say those relationships should be marital relationships.
	But how do you get there?
	I mean, you're not just going to pick up a guy on the street and marry them.
	Like, what do you mean?
	How do you get to that marriage if there's no, I mean, I get it, you connect on like a friendship level and all of that.
	But how do you know you want to marry?
	People are married now who waited until marriage and it's a beautiful person.
	I believe it.
	I know people too, but I'm asking how do you get there?
	Like, with that.
	What do you mean?
	Like, do you think that having sex before marriage is like a necessity?
	No, but I think that people have sexual desires no matter what and you should go towards that sexual desire.
	Why should you automatically gratify all of your desires?
	Because you don't want to end up with someone unhappy.
	I mean, just because you're satisfying a desire doesn't mean you're going against something.
	What you're saying makes no sense.
	I feel like a lot of people that are saving themselves for marriage, though, are already on the same page with that.
	So they don't feel the need to just have sex before marriage, obviously.
	Yeah, but when they're in the talking stage, are they like they actually date talking?
	You use the word talking to mean hooking up with people.
	But are they, what are they talking about?
	Just like values, morals, the things that you should talk about when you're getting to know someone.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But, you know, could be anything.
	Just not, you know, how big is your dick?
	Okay.
	Or whatever.
	Those other questions.
	So when you're married, you're into that, though.
	You're like, when you're married, you can be freaky with each other, and that's fine, right?
	That's kind of a bizarre way to describe it, but like you have a sexual relationship once there's commitment involved.
	Sorry.
	You have a sexual relationship with your spouse once there is commitment involved.
	And the only real commitment, at least in my worldview, is marriage.
	And I have such esteem.
	I hold that institution and that sacrament in such high esteem that I don't think anyone should go into it for the wrong reasons.
	Okay.
	I definitely see that.
	I was just wondering, like, what the beginning stages are, like, for that's just what dating was until very long.
	Yeah, you're right.
	But we obviously live in a hypersexual world.
	So it's partly due to people who are probably hard to because you're pointing at people at the bottom.
	I'm saying, like, I'm tired of my fault.
	Brian is saying, like, Brian is saying, I'm tired of, you know, going on a first date with someone and not knowing whether they are talking to, hooking up with a bunch of other guys.
	I should have a guarantee that we're exclusive.
	But also, on the other hand, girls don't have the knowledge that this guy they're on a first date with isn't watching videos of other women having sex and doing sexually explicit things on the internet all the time.
	It's equally disturbing, at least to me.
	And you're part of perpetrating that problem on the modern dating world.
	Like, you do take part in that.
	You're not just complicit in it.
	You're right.
	But you're saying I'm the reason for that problem, is what she said.
	And that's not true.
	I'm not the reason.
	Yeah, part of that.
	But I'm also someone who grew up around a man's world.
	It's a man's world and men want sex.
	And why would you have to do that?
	Why would you call this a man's world?
	It's always been a man's world.
	What does that mean to you?
	I mean, it's a patriarchy?
	Institutionally, like, yes.
	Institutionally?
	There are men who have ran institutions.
	Men.
	Actually, I think the reason that society is collapsing right now is because we upended the patriarchy.
	You've never lived in a patriarchy.
	I have never lived in a patriarchy.
	Everything is falling apart and no one is happy.
	Well, can't go against you there, I guess, if that's how you do it.
	I think men had a pretty good system figured out until everything.
	But men being the sexual creatures that they are have guided us to a society of hypersexualness.
	I don't see men or women as sexual creatures.
	They have a faculty of sexuality.
	You can temper it or not.
	okay it's about you don't think men are more sexually like physiologically sure Yeah, physiologically, there is a difference between men and women's sex drives.
	Yes.
	And I think that we have made money.
	Do you really blame the past?
	Are you really blaming men's sex drives for the fact that you are creating a bad person?
	I'm not blaming anybody.
	I'm just saying what you said was not right.
	I'm not like the reason for so you're supplying porn, but blaming men for the demand.
	I think that porn can be in a good way.
	I don't think porn is like 100% bad.
	I do think that it's 100% bad.
	And I think that the women around here who are not doing porn would feel uncomfortable about their boyfriend subscribing to your OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	You don't have to.
	I didn't ask them to, but what I'm saying, I don't even know what I was saying anymore, actually.
	You can move on.
	Okay.
	That's fine by me.
	You got a little too complex for me there, Mary.
	I can tell.
	Yeah.
	I'm just a porn star.
	No.
	I'm just an OnlyFans girl.
	I mean, that's what you are.
	Well, I'm not, I think I mainstream it more and I definitely more than my cat fight.
	I definitely do my own thing.
	I'm not like mainstream.
	I think that what you do is so below your dignity and this is just not right for you.
	No.
	Are we, is this an intervention for Violet?
	Let's zoom out my life decisions.
	Yeah, I've definitely thought about these things.
	And you're not the first person in my life who has said, like, oh, have you thought about this or that?
	I have, and I am okay with my life decisions.
	Okay, we'll find out in 20 years how that works out for you.
	We will.
	We will.
	Should we do a reunion episode?
	We should.
	Let's see who gets married first, Mary.
	Let's see.
	Okay.
	She's currently, you're currently engaged, aren't you?
	No, she's not engaged.
	Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Okay, I hope I didn't jinx it or anything.
	I don't know.
	You did.
	Wait, Mary, here, can you look into that camera right there and propose to your boyfriend?
	Where is that?
	I don't believe in women proposing to their boyfriends.
	That's gross.
	All right, never mind then.
	All right.
	Okay, well.
	Speaking of which, oh, okay.
	Oh, it's not reading.
	Just because men have more testosterone does not mean men rule anything due to the feminism blank and tea ideology.
	The majority of the West is now living in a matriarchy and you can see it before your own eyes, the downfall of America.
	It's not okay with me.
	Because where are the mothers?
	It's like, it's a gynocracy is really what's going on.
	Oh, gynocentric.
	Okay.
	So the men aren't doing what the men should be doing.
	The women aren't doing what the women should be doing.
	Where did this come from?
	Like, it didn't just come a year ago or in 2017 when I started doing this.
	Where did the hypersonic?
	Because you're not because I'm not saying that you are.
	But where do you think it kind of like went wrong?
	Like the 60s?
	Like, where?
	Seneca Falls, the Seneca Falls computer.
	I would trace it back to the printing press, ultimately.
	Printing press.
	But.
	Get rid of books.
	The Industrial Revolution is your answer.
	No, like, I mean, all of these things are a domino effect to where we got feminism, which is a political liberation movement for women.
	And if we really want to place the blame on anything, it's feminism.
	And it started way before the 60s.
	That is when it really went into a crescendo and took over.
	Was it like the 20s, like 1919?
	I mean, feminism go before that.
	cynical trolls and i wouldn't consider my eye so a lot of witchcraft involved in that Witchcraft?
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, really?
	I'm trying to find the date.
	Seneca Falls was 1848.
	Yeah, somewhere else.
	But I'm just saying, like, we would all be in a better position if we were born a century or two ago.
	I'm just saying that.
	Well, like, morally, just one second.
	What does it take to change a light bulb?
	No.
	Feminists can't change anything.
	That's what men are for.
	I mean, they've definitely changed a whole lot.
	But so how many feminists does it take to change?
	I feel like a light bulb is not the most important issue.
	Like, who cares if feminists can change a light bulb or not?
	Who controls the electrical grid?
	Men.
	But, like, you just said, we would be in a better place if we were born a couple centuries ago.
	But we are all essentially all more comfortable than we were a couple centuries ago because of men.
	Well, we have so many.
	I say that, but it's also like men are the reason we have air conditioning, lighting, everything.
	So it's true.
	It's something that obviously there's give and take with everything.
	Like yin and yang.
	Well, I don't know if this is the episode where we're going to debate about the Industrial Revolution, but can everyone just get behind the fact that it was bad?
	I don't know.
	You'll have to ask the rest of the panel on that one.
	Like, I'm comfortable with living in industrial society and like having air conditioning and running water and all that stuff.
	But if I had never known what I was missing, yeah, if I had never known what I was missing, would I be worse off, really?
	I mean, maybe not.
	I think I would have.
	I like living where I am now, like, not 200 years ago.
	Can you scoot the mic all the way close to you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I like living in this society, not society 200 years ago.
	I'm glad you like it, but I just, I don't.
	I used to say that.
	So people are just forced to be comfortable in this society now because what else do we have to do?
	We're just like overabundant and all the things that we want, but we don't have the things we really need.
	I do feel bad for kids, though.
	Like, playing outside is so important, and nobody does that like they should anymore.
	Like, just going outside, you know.
	The iPads are going to inherit the society.
	Well, since we're talking about dating, I don't know how dating is going to look like in the future with these iPad camps.
	It looks dating already terrible already.
	No.
	I actually didn't have an iPad until like I was in high school.
	Pat stuff.
	I will say penicillin is kind of dope, just so.
	But I was walking through Best Buy the other day, and iPads are like $100 now.
	I'm like, everybody can get an iPad.
	Oh, that might have been like Google tablets or something.
	Never mind.
	I was like, girl, mine was like $3,000.
	I feel like these parents just, you know, sit their kid down with an iPad so they don't have to pay attention to them.
	And I'm not a parent, so I can't speak to how difficult it is, and I'm sure it is really difficult, but I just don't think that is justifiable.
	We don't know the long-term effects, and they're probably really bad.
	And I also like, okay, I wanted to get this off my chest.
	I was at the airport yesterday, and there were two parents that were struggling to wrangle their young daughters onto the plane we were boarding.
	And one was like six years old, the other was a toddler.
	And then this mom turns to a younger woman who was seated nearby and she was saying like, this is great birth control, isn't it?
	And then she just like walked away.
	And me and the younger woman made eye contact.
	Like, did she really just say that out loud?
	A lot of people joke about that nowadays.
	It's a really good joke.
	They joke about misery.
	Yeah, like I posted about this because it disturbed me so much and left such an impression on me.
	And a lot of people were like, you'll get it when you have kids.
	They're awful.
	And I just hate the way that they're justifying, like, dehumanizing children, really.
	And like, parents are treated so horribly when they travel with kids.
	And it just feels like our culture hates children at this point.
	Like, if you're going to go out in public and use your kids as a representation of like how they act and like how that is good birth control, then you probably shouldn't be having kids.
	It's not like why take care of themselves, please.
	Yeah, no, kids are not like that just because they're kids.
	They're like that because you're complacent.
	You don't discipline your kids.
	There's like a TikTok thing where the lady with a list.
	I don't know if you guys have seen that.
	Yeah.
	Like, every single time there's, like, a bad video of, like, children or something, like, this lady adds it to her list of, like, reasons to take their birth control, and it's just, like, ugh.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	I'm like, oh.
	LC, like this is a good idea.
	That's why you made it suck in a few years because people don't even want to have kids anymore.
	People don't even want to be mothers or fathers anymore.
	Even sadder is like if they do want to have a family, it's so much more difficult these days to actually get there.
	To like finding a long-lasting relationship, one that is geared toward marriage is so difficult on its own.
	And then when you get there, you can't afford to buy a house anymore.
	You're in real estate, you know this.
	You can't even buy a house anymore.
	The cost of living is just insane.
	It's skyrocketing all the time.
	And it's just looking really bleak for people who do want that.
	Let alone the problem of people not wanting it at all.
	Do you think it's just a phase in our society that we're like this?
	Or do you think?
	No.
	No.
	I think it's actually going to get worse in our lifetimes.
	I would like to say that it's just a phase, but it's not.
	So when, in 50 years, you think it's going to be, like...
	I don't think any of us are going to live to see things improve on that front.
	That's unfortunate.
	I feel like it might be just a phase, a hiccup in our society, maybe, like that men and women are so disconnected.
	No.
	Hopefully not.
	Hopefully it has been hundreds of years, and then the consequences are going to last hundreds of years, too.
	When do you think they start?
	Oh, you already told me that.
	Like, yeah.
	Probably 1990.
	Maybe the West is going to collapse.
	You know?
	What do you think about that?
	Do you think it's the end of the world or a hiccup?
	Maybe then the patriarchy will come back when society collapses and scarcity comes back.
	What do y'all think?
	Do y'all even think we're going through a hiccup?
	Do y'all think it's like better than it ever has been?
	I'm genuinely losing brain salts right now.
	Me too.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I don't know.
	Kind of like going back to the thing though, it's like people, women don't have to want to have kids.
	Like, I don't know.
	I feel like you were kind of emphasizing that like women are like, you should have kids in the society and that's how we're going to go back to how it was years ago.
	Did I say that?
	Well, I just, that's how I implied it and what you were saying.
	So it might have just been something that I caught up on, you know?
	I might have picked it up wrong, but I'm just saying that women could be so much more than mothers.
	Like, you don't have to be a mother, especially nowadays.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	They can be so much more than CEOs, too, though.
	Exactly.
	And it's okay to be a mom.
	If you want to be a mom, I think that's totally fine.
	But it's also okay to be a CEO.
	But there's so much more lasting significance.
	I think what you're saying is what you were saying before is like, what are you going to do with the moms who can't have a bad person?
	What about people who are infertile?
	We're talking about mothers who choose not to have kids because they don't want to procreate.
	But Mary was saying, like, these days, if you want to have kids, it's almost like you're shamed for it, which is like so weird, right?
	It's terrible because I feel like one of like the, I don't want to say like your only purpose as a woman is to have kids, but like one of your best, one of the best things you can do naturally is procreate.
	If that's how you see it, of course.
	Yeah.
	If that's how you see it.
	Well, I definitely think there's a culture of, and this has been going on for a long time, of boss babe, you don't need no man, go make a bunch of money, focus on your career, spend your 20s focusing on your career,
	have casual sex, date a bunch of men, figure out what you like, rack up a high body count, focus on your career, then you hit your 30s, and then you realize, hmm, working for some fucking whatever corporation, being a wage slave, isn't really all it's cracked up to be, and it's actually rather stressful, and it's actually rather unfulfilling.
	And you have a lot of women who are, and look, if I'm not saying you, if you want to go be a career woman, that's fine.
	But I think a lot of career, like a lot of women do that, and then they reach the finish line.
	They have their amazing career, but they don't have a family, they don't have kids, they're in their mid-30s, and then it's some, then you maybe have started aging out of even having children, and you realize that being some wage slave for some corporation that doesn't give a fuck about you, being submissive to your employer instead of your husband, isn't all it's cracked up to be.
	No fulfilling.
	To add some nuance to that, there's a way to have a career that isn't just being a slave to a corporation.
	Like you can start a business or do something you love.
	You know, I don't know.
	Most people are not going to be able to do what they love.
	The economic reality is that you're probably going to do some, and that's fine.
	You don't.
	Most people aren't going to be able to do what they love.
	You're going to do a job that you go to, you show up, and then you can pursue your passions on your time off.
	But most people are not going to be doing particularly fulfilling work, in my view.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you have to, obviously, people have bills.
	You have to live.
	But there's something honorable about it if a man has a job that isn't his passion, but he uses that to provide for a family.
	Absolutely.
	That's possible.
	Can a woman do that?
	Well, she can't do full-time mom and full-time CEO at the same time.
	Thank you for calling marriage a sacrament.
	Roles are indeed inverted, and occult feminism is ancient in the theosophical societies.
	Transhumanism seems spish.
	Kardashev 2-3 civilization with metaverse coom pod.
	I'd rather keep bees and stay offline.
	Keep bees and stay offline.
	Bone man 5-38.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Word?
	i don't know where we were um okay so oh that's right What I want, first Twitch, then we'll pull up the video.
	Then I got to move on to other topics.
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	And then we have the video.
	This is what I think a woman can bring to the table.
	Oh, Nick, you're going to have to put it on.
	Oh, look, I left a comment.
	Now, bear in mind, bear in mind, okay?
	Before you click play, how do I?
	This is an exaggeration, but I'm not gonna lie, this is fucking based as fuck.
	Keep in mind, though, if you're a guy and you want this, you probably have to be a very high honor.
	Go ahead, let's play.
	The sounds kind of meme.
	Nah, no sound.
	Just yeah, just go ahead.
	Based.
	Right?
	Great.
	That's literally my life.
	Isn't this great?
	Hold on.
	It gets better.
	This is.
	Gets home.
	Feeds him too.
	I'm assuming.
	Yeah.
	And just play it one more.
	Is it going to repeat?
	Okay, no, you can keep it.
	Look at the fucking bow.
	I want a bow.
	A woman who can bow, that's what you can bring to the table.
	A deep bow, not just like a little head nod.
	I want to bow.
	Are you going to bow back?
	Are you going to bow back?
	Is that a good one?
	Does the guy have to bow back?
	Would I have to bow back?
	It's what I mean.
	I think I'm the dominant one in the relationship.
	I would prefer.
	She doesn't have to stir my noodles, by the way.
	I can do that myself.
	But like, the attentiveness, the attentiveness, that's kind of attractive.
	Now, I wouldn't, I think they're doing the exaggeration there.
	The guy's like flinging his shit in a kind of aggressive way, flaying his shoes, flinging his shirt.
	That's why I like it because I like doing things like that.
	I like to be.
	I don't think it's an exaggeration.
	I feel like men actually do that.
	Do what?
	Just waiting or Tricky will come home and throw a shirt on the bed and I'll just grab it and throw it in the basket.
	Okay.
	I feel like people actually do that.
	Question for the chat.
	Does the guy bow back in that situation?
	Does he bow back or I think he just walks in and if he respects you, he bows back.
	I don't know.
	That's kind of fucking dope.
	When I'm talking about peace, when I'm talking about respect, hook it up with a bow, you know?
	Would any of you be down to like bow to your boyfriend as he came home?
	No.
	Why would you?
	Wait, why would you do any of this for a boyfriend instead of a husband is my question?
	The boyfriend could still provide.
	No, you should not.
	I'm against that.
	Like, I mean, me treating a boyfriend like a husband.
	What incentive does he have?
	Can we, you know what?
	We'll have Violet demonstrate.
	Violet, could you demonstrate a bow for us?
	What the fuck was that?
	Why are you doing a double?
	Never mind.
	Okay, Roman salute.
	Okay, okay.
	No, that's not.
	Is that some ballet shit?
	What are you doing?
	A pirouette?
	Which one do you want?
	No, eight.
	The blau.
	Just the bow.
	I mean, you don't have to do.
	Like that.
	One more time.
	In the video, did she have her hands on her?
	She still had her hands.
	Cradling?
	No, just put your hands like...
	Oh.
	Yeah, there we go.
	There you go.
	Okay, demonstrate a bow.
	See, I think you're doing too much at the hip.
	I think it's got to be a bit more.
	There we go.
	There needs to be a rounding, a rounding of the back.
	She looks like a cat throwing up.
	Oh, yeah, those TikToks are there.
	You can sit down and buy and see.
	I think you've seen enough.
	So, okay.
	I don't know.
	I feel like she should hug him.
	The bowing is a little...
	I'm a big fan of...
	She should get on her knees and second.
	As soon as he walks in, that's your man.
	You gotta get on your knees.
	That's a bow.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Okay, let's.
	Let's do a topic.
	Let me get through some of the pre-show notes here.
	So, let's see.
	How do you pronounce your name again?
	Terrane.
	Terrane.
	Yes.
	In your pre-show notes to us, you said that you're tired of the narrative that all women want a man to provide for them.
	Some women like myself are looking for a genuine connection and believe in equal partnership.
	Yeah.
	I feel like it's very hard to find a genuine connection these days.
	Sure.
	So you, and you, but you said you're tired of the narrative that all women want a man to provide for them.
	And you said some women like yourself looking for genuine connection and believe in equal partnership.
	I'm not getting your words mixed up here.
	That's, yeah.
	So you don't, okay.
	But then, and here's where I was a little confused.
	You also wrote that I am traditional in the sense that I feel a man should pay for dates in the courting stages, but I am not one to date someone for their income.
	Yeah, I think just in like the courting stages, to me, that's just what I've been taught.
	That's how I've been brought up.
	So I feel like that's what a gentleman does on the first date that they pay.
	You said pay for dates, though, so I assume the first few dates also, I'm imagining, right?
	I mean, if they could pay for the first date, that would be nice.
	I mean, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Have you encountered men who don't pay for the first date?
	Or who split, rather.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, who are like, oh, can we split?
	And how does that make you feel?
	To me, I put them in a different category.
	Like, they're more of a friend.
	Do you ever talk to them ever again category?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Or I'm just like, oh, that's good.
	Just a friend that you're not.
	You're never a friend that I'm.
	Wouldn't that be like equal partnership, though?
	Well, that's where I'm confused with what Maddie is saying here.
	Because, and I, this is just the words that you wrote to us.
	Yeah.
	You said you're tired of the narrative that all women want a man to provide for them.
	Some women, like yourself, believe in equal partnership, but I'm failing to see how do you reconcile both of these statements because they're kind of contradictory.
	You're saying you want an equal partnership, but you're also traditional and you feel a man should pay for dates in the courting stages.
	Yeah, because in relationships, I've always been the one to give more into the relationship.
	I've always been the one who's basically putting more of myself into it.
	And I feel like if someone was to take care of the first date, that shows me that maybe they could love the same way that I do.
	Because once I'm like getting to know somebody and I really like them, I do give a lot of myself to the person.
	But are you, when you give a lot of yourself, are you talking about financially?
	I feel like I have like, yeah, in some ways, yeah.
	Emotionally or emotionally, financially.
	Well, I suspect, well, okay.
	Yeah.
	Are you do you feel it's you giving more of yourself if you're splitting the bills 50-50?
	Have you ever held down a guy?
	Like, have you ever paid everything?
	I have.
	Okay.
	I guess where I'm confused, when you say you feel a man should pay for dates in the courting stages, how long is the courting stage?
	A couple weeks, couple months?
	I feel like at least like after, I mean, I don't know, at least for three dates, if the guy could take care of it.
	More often than not, of all the different men you've dated, more often than not.
	are they though paying for the dates yeah like the first date but and then but then then afterwards There's been occasions where I paid.
	For the.
	Yeah.
	When you say paid.
	And I feel like that person didn't respect me as much afterwards.
	Like they didn't hold me to the same regard.
	But when you say you paid, are you saying you paid for your bill or you paid for him too?
	I've paid for the guy too before.
	Okay.
	Again, but what I'm confused is, and perhaps you can help me try to reconcile this.
	You said in your pre-show notes to us, you believe in equal partnership, yet you said that you feel that men should pay for dates in the courting stages.
	That doesn't sound equal to me.
	What would be equal would be you split the bill or you each pay your own bill.
	However, so you want, you believe in equal partnership, except when it comes to paying the bill, that's where I'm confused.
	I'm just saying like for the first few dates, I want the man to initiate it.
	To me, when I say equal partnership, like I said, when I'm in a relationship, I usually give so much of myself, like financially, spiritually, emotionally.
	So I feel like that just shows that the man, like, you know, that he's trying to pursue me, that he cares, you know?
	That's the best way I can put it.
	To me, that's.
	But do you not see how it's a bit contradictory to say that you believe in equal partnership?
	Maybe equal partnership isn't the right word to use.
	I mean, I believe that that's it.
	That determines, you know, if this person is going to be worth my time, because I know when I'm in a relationship that I give so much of myself to the person, so do they not give themselves to you too?
	I'm just.
	I mean, my last relationship was not the healthiest.
	I've been in a healthy relationship before, but the last one was your last, was it the four-year relationship?
	Um, it was three years.
	The last one was three years.
	Three, okay, three years.
	Were you paying all the expenses in that relationship?
	A lot of times, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Were you guys living together?
	Were you splitting rent, or how did that work?
	Was he paying the rent?
	He would pay sometimes, but he just wasn't, he wasn't contributing like as much as he really was.
	Did you have conversations about that?
	Yes, yes.
	He was a toxic individual, so you dated him for three years, you said?
	Mm-hmm.
	You chose to cohabitate and live with a toxic individual?
	Well, what did you like about him?
	We had a connection.
	We did have a connection.
	You had a connection?
	Yeah.
	With a toxic individual?
	That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
	Like, what were the traits about him that you liked?
	We had.
	What kept you in that?
	We had a lot of fun together.
	Translation: he was a bad boy and exciting, and he fucked me really well.
	I mean, that was that chapter of my life, and I'm in a completely different space.
	What do you mean?
	So you agree with what Brian just said?
	I mean, I was in a different space in my life.
	What do you mean, different space of your life?
	Well, at the time, it was like I had the choice to either go to this toxic relationship or the alternative was other toxic things.
	Other toxic things.
	Like, be safe.
	I feel like I didn't have an option at the time.
	I don't want to really get into the details.
	Well, you had the option, but you didn't desire to be alone at that time for whatever reason.
	I didn't have support.
	And I think that's what, yeah, sometimes you need, like, people.
	I was in an unhealthy relationship where I didn't feel like I had anybody, any place to go to.
	Like, I was out of, I didn't feel like I had options.
	How at what point in your relationship did you guys move in together?
	It was kind of early, but initially I moved in with him and his mom.
	So like at first, yeah.
	But then later on, you became like the financial provider.
	His mom passed away, so then we ended up getting an apartment together.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's when you started bearing the brunt of most of the experience.
	Yeah.
	Like it wasn't, I mean, if I knew it was going to be that way, you know, I obviously wouldn't have got into it.
	But you live and you learn.
	I mean, that's why it was three years ago, and I'm took the time to hear.
	A lot of women complain about men being assholes and men being toxic, yet you find yourselves, interestingly enough, in long-term cohabitating relationships with the precise men that you categorize as toxic and assholes and jerks and bad boys.
	I think this is because women are attracted to these.
	Well, it's certainly the case that women are attracted to these kinds of men because they're exciting in one way or another.
	And you, a lot of we've had women who come on the show and they say, well, a guy could be attractive, be stable, have a good job, but he just isn't.
	We didn't feel the click.
	We didn't feel the connection.
	I wouldn't say that's the case with me.
	I just think I was a broken person at the time.
	And I was in a, like I said, I was in a different place in my life.
	I hadn't healed a lot of parts of me.
	And so I attracted that person.
	But I don't think I necessarily saw them in the beginning as being like a bad boy.
	I actually thought he was too nice.
	That's literally what I remember myself.
	But too nice.
	No, I mean, you don't know somebody until you're with them for a period of time.
	You can't just say after the first day, oh yeah, this person's like good or bad.
	Like, I don't know.
	It's just, it takes time to get to know someone.
	Does it take three years?
	No, but there's like, there's like deeper circumstances, obviously, why I would stay in that situation.
	But like I said, I think the biggest thing was I didn't have a family base or anything.
	Can you talk straight into the mic, please?
	I didn't feel like I had like a family base or anyone to fall on.
	So I feel like I stayed in it longer than I should have because I just thought like, why am I going to leave this toxic situation to go and be in a more toxic situation?
	Because you're addicted to the drama.
	You like the excitement that a toxic relationship brings you.
	Was him living with his mom ever a red flag for you or were you just kind of like that?
	A lot of women, hold on.
	A lot of women would rather date a toxic guy than a boring guy.
	Okay, women like that drama that's.
	I'm in early 20s.
	Now I'm in my 30s.
	I'm in a different stage in life.
	People also change.
	Have you heard of that?
	Like people change.
	Yeah, people don't stay the same.
	They grow and they evolve and you learn from your mistakes.
	Do you not believe in that?
	Is that why you care about body count so much?
	I mean, we can talk about body count.
	Yeah.
	I would like to add a little bit of a little bit of a message.
	I'm not saying that this applies to you and this relationship, but as far as why women get with toxic guys who obviously have a bunch of red flags that they ignore, I think sometimes it's actually more of a narcissistic thing that's about yourself as the woman, thinking, and I'm not saying this from experience at all, but from observation, thinking, I can change him.
	I'm special.
	He'll change for me because I'm just a special unicorn.
	It's rather naive, though, don't you think?
	Of course it is.
	Of course it is.
	But it's not just wanting excitement or maybe it's a mix of both.
	But oftentimes I think it's more that thing about yourself.
	Like I'm the one who's going to change him.
	Because I'm special.
	And I have to prove to myself that I'm special because my parents didn't.
	Like that's what it's like.
	I think this is the difference between men and women because you often hear women say, well, I need the click.
	I need the chemistry.
	I need the lightning.
	I need the butterflies.
	I need this ethereal thing that a lot of people cannot actually articulate what they're looking for.
	You often hear women say that they like funny men, that they like guys who are exciting and all these things.
	You often don't hear men saying, at least on the top of their totem pole, that they're looking for women who are humorous or funny.
	Most men, frankly, don't care.
	And I think that's why men generally have a stronger inclination to pursue women who would bring them peace.
	Women, I think, a lot of women look to men to be entertainers.
	You want us to be your fun and your entertainment.
	Now, I don't think that that is what makes a good partner.
	Generalizations.
	I mean, you're generalized.
	I think if you ask any woman what they're looking for personality-wise from a guy, at the very top, every single woman would be like, I like funny guys.
	I'd like a guy who's funny.
	My view is, is that actually a guy who's maybe a bit more dull Actually, might be the most suitable partner that you can find.
	But you like to be entertained.
	You want that sort of stimulation.
	Which is why there's it's not like I'm not pulling this out of my ass.
	Women admit it themselves.
	They say they like bad boys.
	And also, whether they admit to it or not, women constantly complain about men being jerks, assholes, whatever.
	You pick those men.
	You're attracted to those men.
	You have to have some accountability when it comes to the men that you choose to be in relationships with.
	How often is it the case that you hear a woman say, oh, he was the he was perfect, but we didn't have the click?
	Well, I think a lot of women collapse in their mind the idea of a guy who is exciting to be around, who excites them, who maybe entertains them or makes them laugh, who has a spark with the guy who introduces uncertainty into your life.
	And if you're someone with an insecure attachment style because of your upbringing, then you're going to be addicted to that uncertainty and not being able to stand on stable ground in a relationship.
	So if there is a guy who is toxic, an asshole, he's constantly making you question and testing your security.
	And women want security so bad in a relationship that if they have an insecure attachment style, they're going to be addicted to that guy who doesn't give it to them.
	Sure.
	Nick, there's actually a video on this in the podcast videos folder.
	It's called Boring No Chemistry.
	If you can get that pulled up here.
	Yeah, so.
	I think any emotionally healthy person is able to have an exciting relationship that is also stable.
	And I think that I have something like that, personally.
	Like, I am excited to spend time with my boyfriend.
	I have fun with him.
	Sure.
	And we have a stable relationship in which I'm not constantly questioning myself.
	But I do think there's this expectation on men that we be your perfect entertainers and always like if you want entertainment, if you want funny, like go watch Netflix.
	My role as a partner to you is not to be your entertainment.
	But like I do need some, I don't need you to be the most funny person in the world, but I need you to be able to take a joke because like a lot of people are sensitive.
	And I think that is just probably one of my main things.
	Just don't be super sensitive.
	But I often hear this complaint from women that, oh, he's kind of boring.
	Boring is not a bad thing.
	At least when I'm looking at the woman I want to date, if she's kind of now, obviously I want to be able to have a conversation with her.
	But if you think that the primary thing men are looking for is a woman's humor, I think that's very low on the toe for most men.
	Here, we have this.
	This is related to it.
	Wait, mute it, mute it, mute it, mute it.
	I don't feel that much chemistry with him.
	He's boring.
	He doesn't trigger my anxious trauma response, which I confuse with love.
	That's exactly what I said.
	Yep, yep.
	Yep.
	Pretty much what Mary said.
	Ding, ding, ding.
	That's why women like to date toxic men, because it keeps them on their toes.
	It's so thrilling to be in a relationship with them.
	They just always have, yeah, it's literally basically exciting and so thrilling that connected to the adrenaline that it gives them.
	But in the healthy sense of it, like, women do want actual, or at least women should want when they are emotionally stable.
	They should desire romance, excitement, fun, and all of that type of thing.
	Like, but not confuse it for something else.
	And you say you don't want a toxic guy, but when he's too nice, it's a red flag.
	I also think people don't give people enough chances.
	Like, you meet somebody on the first date, and it might not click right away.
	And so, like, sometimes people just write people off.
	I found that after the third date, like, nine times out of ten, I start to like the person.
	Like, I see, like, qualities in them that I like.
	But it takes time to like peel back layers and get to know someone.
	That's why you don't swap left on the guy with the fish pick.
	Well, gotta get to know a guy.
	Well, I agree.
	I'm not really into fishing, so whatever.
	But when it comes to the vibe or the click, who here, and this, I put vibe, chemistry, click in the same realm as love at first sight.
	Who here believes in love at first sight?
	I think we all realize that's kind of bogus.
	In a certain sense, though, I don't know about sight, but the fact that you're in someone's physical presence has a lot to do with your attraction to them.
	If you just see a picture of them, it's not the same thing.
	I mean, there's lust, but I mean...
	No, not lust.
	Is this not even dating?
	What are you talking about?
	Or like, is this for anything in general?
	Well, I'm talking about love at first sight.
	Yeah, but like, when a mother gives birth to like a child and they see their children.
	Yeah, okay, yes, I'm talking about romantic dating.
	Okay.
	In that sense, no, I don't believe in it.
	Yeah.
	I categorize the click in that same thing.
	In the same way that I think love develops, I too also think that that sort of chemistry and click can develop over time.
	A lot of women, though, want that instantly, otherwise they're just going to write off the guy.
	And typically the men who are able to elicit that vibe, that chemistry, that click, the rainbow, the butterflies, whatever, the electricity, the spark, all the bullshit terms that are used, they're able to elicit it in a lot of other women too.
	That's why a lot of women fall for players because I don't think a lot of women are feeling the click, the connection, the vibe with maybe a guy who's a bit more introverted, a guy who's maybe a bit more, maybe he's a little socially awkward.
	You're not feeling the fucking click with the socially awkward dude.
	You're getting the click with a guy who's super fucking confident.
	That dude's probably a player.
	So does any wonder why a lot of women are chasing after these really attractive player dudes who just have that level of experience of eliciting that feeling in women?
	Because you're looking for this thing.
	Also, let me ask you guys here, have you ever had the click, the connection vibe with a guy?
	Only to, whether shortly thereafter or maybe a couple weeks, couple months down the road, realize this person is a terrible fucking person.
	Have you ever had that?
	Yeah.
	No.
	You've never one boyfriend over here?
	Okay.
	No.
	You've never had a click or connection with a guy and then turns out he's not.
	I mean, not that I can remember right now.
	Yeah.
	I'll try to think of one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	You've had the click with a guy and then down the road you're like, oh, this guy, no, not so much.
	Yeah.
	So it's clear that having the click or connection is not the end-all-be-all when it comes to finding a suitable partner.
	What about you?
	I think so, no.
	Honestly, I've also never been in a relationship, so I've never, you know, I don't know.
	But maybe you've met a guy who you've got that click or connection with and then turns out might be a scumbag.
	I mean, I have an experience, but I totally understand how other people have experienced it too.
	So it's not like I'm saying, no, it never happens.
	Sure.
	So, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, let me see if we have any chats here.
	Do we have chats?
	Did I read this one?
	Violet, can you read this one?
	I tuned in for 10 minutes and I already hear the forbidden word patriarchy.
	I don't really think you flannel have a moral leg to stand on as well as complain about patriarchy when your lifestyle is funded by simps and weak men.
	I wasn't complaining.
	I think I was just making a statement.
	But I definitely love the patriarchy.
	I love the moment.
	She loves patriarchy.
	Yeah.
	Yo, bad ZXC.
	Very good to see you back in the chat, man.
	It's been a minute.
	Thank you, dude.
	Go ahead.
	If you want to read it.
	Errol Collins, who is that blonde chick to judge anyone?
	She's mad because Violet can pull and she can't.
	So who is she to judge anyone?
	Violet is not just a porn star.
	She is a very sweet person.
	So I suggest that chick back off.
	Love you, Violet, Master Errol.
	Love you, Master Errol.
	I am very nice, but I don't think that's a hard accomplishment.
	Wait, can you read this one, Nickelodeon?
	Violet, can you take a joke?
	That was the name they gave my Nick Jr. in high school.
	Okay.
	Do you guys want to come back to this one here?
	Very sweet person.
	Well, what I will say to that is you are a simp, and you're brainwashed and hypnotized by pornography.
	And in fact, I told Violet that her line of work is well below her dignity and she has plenty of other qualities.
	I don't know her very well that are very valuable.
	Thank you, Mary.
	Mary has the best intentions.
	She's good and she has good intentions.
	But you're a simp and you should change your ways.
	Just like Violet.
	Errol, do you have a response to Mary's accusations that you are a simp?
	Also, why is he called Master Errol?
	Is that?
	Yeah, he likes to be called Master.
	Does he have to pay extra?
	Does he have to pay extra for?
	Yeah.
	Do you have to pay extra for that?
	Okay, so I was proven correct.
	What?
	He is one of the simps.
	A paying customer.
	Yes, he's a loyal daddy.
	You just said, bruh.
	Okay.
	Gross.
	Do you want?
	Oh, no. That's.
	So.
	Also, by the way, Violet is single and I'm not.
	So.
	True.
	That is true.
	I made a best Mary that we're going to see who gets married first.
	So Mary's in a very committed relationship.
	I have never been in a relationship.
	Zero relationships.
	Not as an adult.
	I was in a long relationship in high school.
	That doesn't count.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, never been in a relationship.
	Mary has been in a very healthy one-year relationship.
	We're going to get ahead right now.
	But it's not how you start.
	It's how you finish.
	Should we wager?
	Do you want to wager on this, Mary, who gets married first?
	How much are you putting?
	Wait, like actual money?
	Yeah, we're betting.
	No, God.
	I want to bet with you, though.
	Let's see who gets married first between me and you.
	Oh, that's easy.
	You're going to get married first because I'm not going to get married.
	Oh, yeah, I forgot you don't really like marriage.
	That's sour.
	Anti-marriage sour puss.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Not a fan.
	Well, I don't object to it from like a religious perspective, but like a secular marriage is of course sexual.
	Yeah.
	People are lolly gaggy with it, but I love the idea of marriage and what it actually is.
	I think you love the idea of having a wedding.
	It's not clear to me if you love the idea.
	I really haven't thought about my wedding ever.
	I like the idea of having a life partner eventually, though.
	Okay, so I want to bring it to Priscilla.
	You said that you wanted to touch on gender roles, traditional versus non-traditional.
	What did you have on that?
	Oh, no, like, it's pretty simple.
	Like, I think that, like, in an ideal situation, like, the man should provide and the woman should focus on taking care of their children.
	At least not until when they're 18.
	The man should pay for the hotel room.
	Yeah, actually, yeah, my mom criticized me on that too.
	She's like, at least paid.
	She's like, at least if you're going to go hook up with a dude who doesn't care about you in the hotel room, at least he should pay for it.
	Yeah, my mom did it.
	Oh, can he at least have just paid twice?
	No, he paid for the first, though, right?
	Say for this first man for me.
	But my mom said that, like, instead of me paying for the second round, he should have paid for the second round as well.
	Was there a third hotel situation?
	No.
	Was it Hilton?
	Marriott?
	Ritz?
	Okay, no, one was in San Dimas.
	Other one was in Wescovino.
	No, not where, just like the chain.
	I don't remember the brand.
	Hilton has good bed sheets.
	I don't remember.
	I do have the address, but like, I don't remember the name.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	So.
	She doesn't know.
	Question for you.
	You think it you believe in traditional gender roles?
	Yeah, I think.
	Do you want to get married?
	I do.
	But like, realistically, I don't know if I can get married by the time I'm 30 because, again, I don't really put myself out there.
	And like you said, I am kind of a hermit.
	Sure.
	Because I do have anxiety.
	And like I said, I think I don't think a guy would want to put up with someone who has anxiety.
	You did say guys shouldn't date girls with mental illness.
	I think anxiety is borderline mental illness, is it not?
	Well, it depends how it manifests itself and its impact on the relationship.
	Hold on.
	Zeros, Maxie donated $100.
	We'll come back to that though.
	What's up, Brian?
	Yo, what's up, man?
	Thank you, thank you.
	I've recently been watching some of your past streams, and this is the first time I'm tuning live at 4. 1:30 a.m. in from London.
	Thank you.
	What is everyone's longest relationship?
	Would love to be on the show next time.
	I'm in LA.
	Happy to support.
	So we, I'm pretty sure we went over that at the beginning of the show.
	Everybody shared their longest relationships.
	We have a lot of people here who haven't been in any real relationships.
	So, yeah, that's pretty much the, I think one year, one year, a couple years, if I yeah.
	But hey, thank you, man.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	How's the weather in London?
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So your anxiety, you think it's going to be might be difficult for you because of your anxiety?
	I think I need to work on overcoming my anxiety.
	I can fix you.
	I think it's manageable.
	Will you marry me, Priscilla?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	You say you don't want to get married.
	Oh.
	Well, let's.
	Yeah, what's that about?
	Can I see your bow at least, and I might reconsider?
	Can you show us your bow?
	No.
	would you bow though would you do i mean i wouldn't bow like the woman in the video That's kind of base, though.
	Well, like, you were like saying, oh, she has good posture, blah, blah, blah.
	You're so like.
	I'm too precise.
	Yeah, you seem very like, yeah, like nitpicky about, like, can't she just, can't she slouch and bow?
	Like, is that a problem?
	You got to do, like, some sort of like, I don't know.
	I could do a cat hurling.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I will say I'm very particular about my bows.
	Have you had a woman bow to you before?
	Is that why you're so particular about it?
	Have I had a woman bow to me?
	I probably have, to be honest.
	Okay.
	But I guess she didn't stick with it.
	It's a rare occurrence, I feel like.
	But I saw, one of my viewers, thank you.
	I forgot whoever sent it to me, sent that to me yesterday, and I saw that video.
	Obviously, it's kind of like they're exaggerating the whole scenario a little bit.
	Not gonna fucking lie, though.
	That's kind of fucking based.
	That's so fucking based.
	Word?
	What he posted me?
	It's just like based in reality.
	It's like, that's awesome.
	Basically.
	Oh, okay.
	That's a half.
	Can we see your bow?
	Can you at least, Priscilla, please show us the bow.
	Can you just stand up?
	Show us the bow.
	Show us the bow.
	I edit what he said.
	I'll just do it.
	He's like, submissive housewife.
	Let's see it.
	Okay.
	Like, hello.
	Like, welcome home.
	That was so good.
	It should be a little deeper.
	Can we get a bit deeper?
	I need a deeper bow because I feel like that was not a respectful.
	Why are you trying to get her to show cleavage?
	That's not what I'm fucking doing.
	I'm asking for a bow.
	I didn't even get it.
	Wow.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	I know his way.
	No, it has nothing to do with cleavage.
	I'm just a bow fetish?
	I don't think so.
	How's it the fetish?
	That's respect.
	It's not.
	No, that's what I was telling you to leave.
	I don't even think he was.
	Well, even if he's not intending to do that, that's what the challenge is.
	That's not what I'm intending to do.
	It's literally covers.
	Put on a fucking burqa and bow.
	I'd like to see the appropriate bowing form.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I don't care about the cleavage.
	Okay.
	Violet and Mary.
	I hope not.
	Of course, y'all had to make it fucking awkward.
	Okay, what?
	Am I supposed to bow again?
	No, yeah.
	You don't have to fucking bow again.
	I think I did it more than once already.
	Pathologizing male preferences for bowing.
	Male preferences are always pathologized in some way.
	If a guy likes this type of woman or that type of woman or he wants this, he's either insecure in some way, he's misogynist, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	whatever um so uh i'm gonna go and work on my bows tonight You need practice.
	Okay.
	You need practice.
	We'll come back better.
	The two hands up was a bit surprising.
	That's definitely not.
	Yeah, the double Roman side of the city.
	Yeah, I was not expecting that.
	Wait, which one?
	I don't even know what I'm saying.
	I was like, oh, shit, okay.
	So, Priscilla, you said you're more traditional.
	When you get married, are you going to take, would you take your husband's last name?
	Yeah, I would.
	Maybe combine my maiden name and my husband's last name.
	Okay.
	Well, what about the kids?
	I think they should take after the father's last name.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What if it's like Hitler?
	I wouldn't go with someone who's like Hitler, though.
	What if it's just a fit?
	He's a fascist.
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't go for Hitler.
	I think they would be married if he was really bad.
	No, no, I mean, like, if their last name was Hitler.
	Oh, if it was Hitler.
	Like, he could be a perfectly nice guy, but his last name just wasn't hit.
	Okay, yeah.
	I think my children would probably get bullied.
	Right.
	Like, get made fun of if his last name was Hitler.
	But I don't.
	Is there like people whose last name is Hitler?
	I mean, like, maybe a politician.
	Not taking that last name.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Great last name.
	Traditional gender roles.
	Did you have more on that, Priscilla, or was that?
	Well, I will say that, like, I am, I am, despite that, like, I am pursuing a degree because, like, for me, like, I would like to provide for the kids when they're still really young.
	But maybe when they're 18, I kind of want to do stuff that I enjoy.
	Maybe somehow utilize my degree.
	Sure.
	Once they're old enough to move out.
	I wanted to touch back in on your anxiety really quick.
	So you said you're still kind of working on the anxiety.
	Yeah.
	And you think that that's going to be a barrier for you to find a partner?
	I think so.
	I feel like some guys would find that to be a red flag, especially if it's really high.
	Because like I said, ever since the pandemic, it's gotten pretty high.
	Like, it's gotten worse than before.
	And I overthink situations and etc.
	I think the right guy is going to be willing to help you, though.
	You think he'd be able to help me overcome that?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I would hope so.
	I mean, but.
	You're also on a podcast right now, so that you're doing pretty good, I think.
	Yeah, I am a fan of this podcast.
	Like, I was immersed in it.
	I've been immersed in it for a while.
	Oh, wow.
	It's an extraordinary thing.
	You're very vulnerable, which is definitely good.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I am trying to get out of my shell more.
	That's why I am here.
	Yeah, the fact that you're writing me on yourself.
	I haven't made an Instagram account to reach out to whatever.
	Like, I actually don't have Instagram.
	Good for you.
	I made one for screening.
	That's great.
	I'm just going to have patients for her.
	That's awesome.
	No Instagram.
	She made it just for you, Ryan.
	Bow was pretty good.
	He's following.
	He's following.
	Hey, you can overcome anxiety.
	A lot of people just go through phases with anxiety.
	I overcame anxiety.
	I had terrible anxiety.
	Maybe it's just younger.
	Like a young adult.
	I mean, I occasionally still have anxiety, but I used to have full-blown panic attacks.
	Me too.
	But you learn to manage it, right?
	Yeah.
	The weather in London is blank.
	Probably bad.
	What is everyone's take on long-distance relationships?
	And if you had a boyfriend and he had to move state or country for work, would you be open to moving with him?
	If not, could you?
	How would you deal with long-distance?
	We can only do one question.
	So if you had a boyfriend, let's just do: would you do a long-distance relationship, yes or no?
	Yes.
	I did it for a year or so, yes.
	No.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If it didn't begin long distance.
	Only for Frankie.
	I would not do a long-distance relationship.
	I just, there's plenty of people.
	I mean, it's conceivable that I could have been dating a girl two years in person and she moves away or some shit.
	And I think Nick is laughing because that's the predicament he's in.
	In any case, there's plenty of people locally.
	Distance, I think, is a major stressor on relationships.
	What's the point?
	And imagine being in a long-distance relationship for like two years, you rarely see each other, and then it ends.
	Like, I feel like it's just even more not worth it than because you didn't even get that time in person with the other person.
	So it's like you were in an isolated relationship.
	So I don't know.
	That's.
	What if you have to go off to war?
	Yeah.
	When the draft is going to be.
	That's why we should equalize the draft so my girlfriend can fucking go.
	She'll come with me to war.
	Let's fucking go.
	Equality.
	Oh, no.
	You're alpha, so you're going to throw her into the fire, like you said.
	Or whatever.
	Do you have a girlfriend?
	Are you single?
	What's your status?
	I'm a man of God.
	I'm dedicated to.
	Whoa.
	My nunnery.
	My male girl.
	Your nunnery.
	What?
	Wait, what?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	That's not answering that question.
	You don't want to say.
	Men of God don't.
	I'm a man of God.
	Don't see other people.
	I'm a man of God.
	Let's just say that.
	Or date.
	What is that?
	I'm a man of God.
	Are you a priest?
	I do have a Bible in here somewhere.
	Okay, whatever.
	You have a Bible.
	Wow.
	So, wait, the anxiety.
	How would that man?
	I think I already asked this, but I feel like you only gave one answer.
	Like, what are some of the ways it would come up be a negative in a relationship?
	I think I would just like.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	No, I definitely think it would affect a relationship.
	Because for me, at one point, my anxiety got so bad that I just cut everyone out of my life.
	And in that situation, I'd probably cut him out of my life or be like, well, I need to work on myself.
	That's what I would say.
	Are you impulsive?
	Impulsive?
	Yeah.
	No, I don't think so.
	No, I don't really have the impulse.
	But I overthink things.
	And sometimes, like, I don't know how my future partner would be able to handle that if I have so much anxiety.
	Because I'm always like, what if, what if, what if, huh?
	Like, would you overthink something with your partner?
	Um, no, no.
	Just just in life, just life in general, even small things.
	Like, give us an example.
	Um, like, what you're wearing today, like, things like that.
	Oh, she mentioned cleavage, that got me pretty worried.
	Oh, I don't think you're worried about it.
	Okay, I was like, I don't think I have much mine or out.
	Like, if your boyfriend, like, went out of the house for a day, you'd be overthinking about what he's doing.
	Oh, I know.
	One of my anxieties, like, possibility to getting cheated on.
	Because for me, I feel like, I don't want to, like, call the entire world out, but I feel like people from this generation tend to cheat more than our parents' generations.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	And like, I feel like, you know, like hookup culture is like a trend.
	Like, I think it just gives people an incentive to cheat more.
	So that's why.
	I was dating a girl who dreamed that I cheated about her, and then she was upset at me about that I cheated on her in her dream.
	I didn't actually cheat on her, but she dreamed that I cheated on her.
	You were just upset.
	I can't believe that.
	No, she was upset at me.
	She's like, why the fuck did you cheat on me in my dream?
	I'm exaggerating.
	I mean, she didn't say it that way, but she was.
	Emotions from your dreams can truly carry on to like reality, though.
	And you're like, definitely woken up from a bad dream and just had a shit day.
	Are you confused when you wake up?
	Hang on, half of you.
	What's real?
	Like, if, I don't know, I don't know a good example, but.
	Maybe she believed it was prophetic.
	Was it?
	Did you end up cheating on her?
	No, I didn't cheat on her.
	I didn't cheat on her.
	She just dreamed I did.
	And then she's like, what the fuck, Brian?
	How dare you cheat on me in my dream?
	I just don't, because I feel like in dreams, like you actually have a vision of what it looks like.
	You know what I mean?
	Talking about the actual act.
	No, not the act, but like you feel how it feels to be cheated on.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's brutal.
	So what's an example, though, with your anxiety?
	Well, I think we're not allowed to talk about COVID, right?
	For me, I'm scared.
	ahead talk about it i'm scared like oh if i like touch my eye with like my dirty hands i'm i'm i get really anxious like oh shoot i just put myself of getting covered like stuff like that like every time because oh Yeah.
	You're just building your immunity.
	It's.
	Yeah, I wash my hands like every, like, every time I grabbed it.
	Well, my mom was like, like, like, urging me to take it off because she's like, it's not as rampant as it was before, like, during 2020 and 2021.
	Wait, are you still worried about COVID?
	Time to time, yeah.
	Like, when I'm touching the doorknob and I, like, accidentally touch my mouth.
	Like, that kind of stuff brings me, gives me anxiety, thinking that, oh, I just put myself.
	Of course, you gotta wash.
	I'm with you.
	You should wash your hands.
	Sometimes I just keep touching.
	Yeah, I wash my hands too often, though, and that's something that I'm doing.
	How many times a day?
	Because I'm like at least 10.
	I think I wash my hands at least 10 times.
	I wash my hands more than I wash a lot more than that.
	I like double that like 20 times.
	I feel like it's more OCD than anxiety.
	Is it?
	That's definitely OCD.
	But don't you?
	They go kind of hand in hand, don't they, though?
	Yes, I guess.
	But OCD.
	Oh, actually, I do have another example.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Like, what is it?
	I couldn't find my phone for like an hour.
	It turns I had sat on my phone for the longest time and I thought like, oh my god, what if I get cancer in my rectum?
	Wait, you're not.
	What?
	Are you just looking at it?
	I'm not.
	Like, I started freaking out.
	Wait, wow.
	Because I sat on my phone the whole time.
	Because there was a time where I couldn't find my phone.
	I sat on my phone.
	It turns out I had sat on it for like an hour.
	And then when I found out that I sat on it, I was like, oh my god, what if I get cancer?
	Okay, that's like weird.
	Because I was told that if you put your phone too close to your body, radiation right now.
	Do you not have pockets?
	No, but I don't, I never put it against my skin.
	Yeah, I always put my phone in my pockets usually.
	Right now, that's your butt naked sitting on your phone.
	Okay, are you a hypochondriac?
	I kind of understand that because I've had like relatives tell me with my AirPods, you're going to get brain cancer because the sound waves are going to get in your head.
	And I just think about that shit that they say and I'm like, okay, well, okay, like five children.
	But I don't get anxious about that.
	I don't get stressed about that or anything.
	But like getting cancer in your rectum because you sat on your phone, that's the same.
	You can get cancer from a lot of people.
	That's Lol Delulu, but okay.
	No, no, but that's what I mean.
	I don't think a guy would want to put a part of you know that that's ridiculous.
	Yeah, like if I get a cancer in your rectum, it's gonna happen either way.
	Like there's not anything you can do about it.
	Can we just Google like do cell phones emit like dangerous radiation?
	I think it was proven that it doesn't.
	Radiation in pockets.
	I heard like you, it's bad if you like sleep really close to your phone.
	Or like if you sleep with it under your pillow or let me let me help you out with your anxiety.
	I don't know if you do Google because like I'm kind of like we're just feeding into anxiety now.
	Oh god.
	This is from the FDA.
	Do cell phones pose a health hazard?
	Cell phones emit low levels of radio frequency energy, a type of non-ionizing radiation.
	The available scientific data on exposure to radio frequency energy show no categorical proof of any adverse biological effects other than tissue heating.
	So if your phone's on your leg, it might get a bit warm.
	Okay.
	This is according to the FDA.
	And we trust the FDA.
	Well, since when?
	I mean, I'm pretty sure cell phones are fine, right?
	Yeah.
	No.
	How do we know?
	You don't ever put your laptop or your cell phone in the pocket or anything?
	No, I do, but I just know that it's probably dangerous.
	And those low levels that can accumulate over time.
	That's my question.
	I heard that about the microwave growing up, though.
	Like, don't stand in front of the microwave.
	I was told not to watch the microwave spin.
	It's going to give you breast cancer, brain cancer.
	I was like, oh, my God, I have to run away while the microwave's going.
	I got to go.
	So, but how would the example of your rectum cancer with the cell phone thing relate to difficulty getting a relationship?
	I'd probably freak out in front of my boyfriend saying like, oh my God, I'm going to get cancer.
	What do I do?
	Here.
	Do you have your phone on you?
	Yeah, yeah, I do.
	Okay, just like put it on your lap for like 10 seconds.
	No.
	Just like touch it up.
	I don't want to stick up.
	You're getting it.
	Stop freaking out.
	You're going to trigger her.
	No, but this is exposure therapy.
	I mean, it was on my hand, but I'm like, no, like the screen like that.
	This isn't a therapeutic session, though.
	This is therapy.
	This is therapy.
	This is exposure therapy.
	You need to acclimate yourself to the fear.
	In any case, though, so, okay, you've had that phone on your leg.
	You now have leg cancer, I guess.
	Probably.
	Go ahead.
	Show us your anxiety.
	I don't want to know.
	Like, how would you act?
	I think this is her being anxious already.
	You trying to force her to do it.
	I'm not being angry.
	No, because we're out in a public space, I'm not going to just really, I do keep it bottled up though.
	Yeah, I feel like anxiety is just like an internal thing, too.
	You can't.
	You can't act it out.
	You can't.
	Yeah, especially if you can't just get like anxiety.
	Go.
	No, but.
	But you're saying that due to your anxiety, that would make it difficult for you to be in a relationship.
	And I'm asking in what ways would it be difficult and how would it manifest and how would it be difficult?
	Well, maybe like just letting out my anxiety out on my partner.
	Well, that's why you're bugging him.
	Like, the rejection of your bugging him about what?
	About me getting cancer in my rectum.
	Like, constantly.
	Or just like she's constantly overthinking things that he's doing, things that she's doing wrong, maybe, or things that she should be doing.
	I think it's pretty clear that she's got a lot of internal dysfunction and that's not really someone.
	It's kind of going back to the topic of being in a healthy relationship if you've got a lot of dysfunction like that.
	Like what you need is a guy that is willing to be super duper attentive to you and willing to.
	I disagree.
	I disagree because then you're like a guy's going to reinforce her, frankly, dysfunctional behavior.
	A guy should not reinforce your anxiety.
	You can be attentive and not have to reinforce it.
	Okay, but these are things that I do think can be addressed.
	Like you should not just if you find yourself in an undesirable position in your life, as I think you've you have some self-awareness that, hmm, I don't I don't like that.
	I have anxiety.
	You can take you can there are actionable things that you can do to improve yourself and perhaps change the circumstances that you find yourself in.
	I mean, that's what I try to say.
	But I want to work on that first before I'm actually confident enough to seek a relationship.
	I mean, honestly, there's a lot of reasons why I'm kind of hesitant to be in a relationship.
	What else?
	What else are we talking about here?
	I don't want to say I got bullied, but in the past, a couple of girls shamed me, saying that I was going to die alone.
	That's fucked up.
	And that I was still going to be a virgin at 40.
	And also, actually, because of what they said, it got to me.
	It made me think, oh, maybe I'm just not attractive enough to be with a life, like my forever person.
	So that's other reasons why I can't hope that maybe you think that they're correct.
	Why would they say something like that?
	Why would you need to pull up on bigger issues?
	Let's pause the podcast and go beyond.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think sometimes I also just care about what people think.
	Like, if they think that I am going to die alone, then I'm just like, oh, it must be true.
	Girl, you cannot listen to them.
	There's going to be people like that.
	That's why I'm also hesitant to just put myself out there in fear of like, because if I do get rejected by a guy, right?
	Then that basically proves her point.
	How old were you when the, was this in person bullying?
	It was kind of in person, yeah.
	How old were you?
	I was like, like five years ago.
	Like 19, almost 20.
	Was it, how did you know the girls?
	Just random girls?
	Was this online or in person?
	It was in person, like I went to, I went, this is like another study abroad program that I went before I met him, like the, you know, the dude that I talked about earlier.
	We were playing a game, actually, and then they ended up saying my name.
	It happened while we were traveling that they said those things.
	It's just awful that it's still stuck with you.
	Like, you gotta learn to let that thing go.
	Things just stick with you.
	But, like, I have an anxiety too, and stuff like that.
	Like, I don't know if it's because I grew up with seven siblings, but you just gotta let that shit roll off your skin.
	Because, like, if you let it get to your head too much, then you become so like infused with what other people say that you're not actually acting yourself.
	Yeah, I just, yeah, I think sometimes I just care about what people think.
	So then I start to think that what they're saying is true.
	I don't think people need to figure out all of their problems and become like flawless before going into a relationship.
	I agree with that.
	I hate how people say, like, yeah, once I'm completely healed, then I'll find love.
	And it's like, you're never totally healed.
	You're healing, like, you know, through life.
	Ready is just this nebulous concept that people often use to avoid responsibility, to avoid intimacy, all sorts of things.
	That's also, I mean, this is kind of pathetic, but that's also the reason why I like decided to, like, why I lost my virginity to the guy that was attracted to me, just to prove those girls that, like, no, I'm not going to be a virgin at 40, as sad as, like, as pathetic as it sounds, but, like.
	Like, it didn't even have to do without anything.
	Yeah, like, if they hadn't said that, I think I would, like, I would have just waited.
	I would have been okay with waiting, but because of what they said, because they shamed me for it, I guess gave in to him.
	I mean, he was attracted to me so and I felt appreciated for the first time that like oh, a guy is attracted to me, so that's why I was giving, I wanted to give him a chance.
	Don't forget to pull up the thing you have to write down, the what, the thing you have me write down on your paper oh, the thumbnail.
	Oh yeah, we do have to react to that.
	Um well, first off, it's uh sorry to hear that those girls uh bullied you.
	Um, no worries, but uh, I feel like that's the sort of thing that uh, you ought to just kind of try to have a thick skin about.
	And I mean, we don't know the full context, but people say hurtful things and uh, I mean yeah, I wouldn't.
	It sounds like the therapy said than done.
	Was that easier said than done?
	You know sure, and I mean I, I deal with like negative comments super frequently, as I mean Mary, you probably experienced it being in the content creation space, being out there in public violet youtube grid, one social donated 100.
	If the Korean girl is being honest, she is about the bravest person on the panel to open up.
	Still look, get out of your head and enjoy your amazing life.
	Amen yeah, do you have a response to grid one?
	Thank you, and yes, I am being honest no, i'm not a liar like these things really happen and that has affected me to this day and i'm slowly working on overcoming that.
	That's why I do therapy.
	Once a week, I speak with the therapist and like like, let everything out instead of just keeping it bottled up all the time.
	What, what was the primary precipitating factor of your anxiety?
	If there was one, you mentioned it came up during covet.
	Was it the Covid kind of exacerbated, I think, aggravated it more like, made it worse?
	But I think I like I did have some anxiety beforehand, before the pandemic even started.
	Was there, was there a precipitating factor?
	Um, I can't think at the top of my head, I think i'll.
	Could we maybe get back to me on that once?
	I like figure out how I have to look back, because I feel like it does.
	Um, it stems all the way back to childhood.
	The way I see it.
	Yeah sure yeah, sometimes it's um, an imbalance though, like in your brain right, like it's not just necessarily things externally, it's something you might be.
	I mean, I think some people are naturally more neurotic.
	But if you have that inclination and your experiences like trigger it.
	That's when it becomes like a life, like something that makes your life dysfunctional, which it means that it's a like a diagnosed illness.
	I don't think my life is dysfunctional and I have anxiety like well, everyone has anxiety, but like medication, you're living in a life or death situation when you're just when you're not in fact like having your life threatened, like anxiety somewhat is a physiological response that you're being threatened in some way and that you're in danger because your heart is beating you're you're breathing heavily, like you feel like you're dying.
	I feel like that's not, in most cases, anxiety to a lot of people, because my anxiety is in like trauma related things, because it came from my parents divorced at like four and it's just like things like that.
	Certain things trigger my anxiety and make it worse, but like I don't think it, so there's nothing like physical about it, not really, it's just all in my head.
	Okay, I feel like that's what most mental illness is, is it's mental, it's not like something that's like projected.
	Well, I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder when I was a child.
	I got over it completely in a few years and I feel like not having physical symptoms of Illness.
	There's nothing physical about something.
	It's not consistent with the diagnostic criteria for a mental illness.
	And how they define that is that it makes your life dysfunctional.
	Like you can't see, your hands feel weird.
	I mean, that happens to panic attacks.
	And it's also in the head, but you feel it physically.
	Yeah.
	Like, I think that's what you mean physically.
	Everyone experiences like worry in their head, but I don't think that really is the same thing as anxiety.
	No, I get where anxiety is, but I feel like it's different for everyone.
	Like, there's no specific definition of what anxiety is for a person.
	Because she may have anxiety about touching a door.
	No, I feel like a lot of people are also encouraged to embrace these labels and it's debilitating to me.
	I can't do things because I have anxiety or I have whatever, like, disorder.
	Then you're just kind of leaning on that crutch and not a lot of people can.
	It's awful.
	I personally don't.
	I don't want it to hold me back, but I just don't think it makes you a dysfunctional person.
	That's like the only thing that's important.
	The definition of a mental illness is that it does affect your life and affect your ability to function as an adult.
	Dysfunctional would be like you're not operating normally.
	Right.
	Or properly.
	No, I get that.
	If the normal state of being is not in an anxious state, then you could argue that being in an anxious state is a non-normal state of being.
	Yeah, I mean, I could probably argue this.
	I just don't really think it makes you a dysfunctional person, but I understand the definition of a mental illness is that it makes you not normally functioning.
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	Violet, can you read this one?
	Brian, I agree with almost all your opinions except the woman doing the draft.
	I'm a vet and I really don't think women should be in the military in general.
	I also would not want my daughter being forced to see the horrors of war.
	It's very cowardly.
	I don't think women should be in the military in general.
	I also would not want my daughter being forced to see the horrors of war.
	Well, I mean, women can be...
	You were just joking, right?
	About the draft?
	Yeah.
	No, I definitely think women should be drafted.
	100%.
	Okay, the problem is, though, like, just in a practical sense, our male soldiers are going to be way less competent because their instinct is to protect the women that they see in the battlefield.
	And then everyone loses in that situation.
	But also, we have a sense that women have inherent value, men have value based on what they provide.
	Well, the thing is with the draft, there are non-combat positions in the military.
	So, I mean, true equality would, if you can get drafted as a male and be sent to the front line, true equality would be you as a female being drafted and sent to the front line.
	However, there are certain biological realities when it comes to warfare and combat where it's you can make very strong arguments for why men are more capable frontline soldiers.
	Do you want equality?
	Huh?
	Do you like want equality?
	Or are you just like trying to tell people that the logical conclusion of equality is like insane things like women being drafted into war?
	Like, is that the point you're trying to make?
	Or do you like actually want equality?
	Like, you're being serious?
	I actually.
	Well, are you trying to make like a philosophical point or are you serious that you like you, want equality?
	No, in reality, in actuality, I think if men are subject to military conscription and if we have a push for equality, if we live in an equal society, then women should also be subject to military conscription but like, now we can have a conversation of where those people end up going.
	Now we can, we could say that, for the good of the military, we should put uh, drafted women in support roles in.
	There's plenty of support roles in the military that are important.
	Okay, so they shouldn't be in combat.
	They, they could be, they could be, but would it be better for men to be in the wait?
	What are you saying?
	Like we have this push for equality.
	Like, are you saying that you want equality or are you saying, like society at large is kind of being coerced into well, the gender equality?
	There is no, the the cat's out of the bag paradigm, the the the cat's out of the bag.
	We have the cats not out of the bag until women and men are the same and they're never gonna be right, but like inequality will always exist.
	Right.
	But when it comes to military conscription, women are capable of.
	Women are okay.
	Women are already able to enroll in the military.
	They're able to uh, fill a vast array of roles in the military.
	Some women see combat, some women are more in support roles.
	Ergo, you can, if you can, get drafted as a man and be put in the support role.
	So too should women be be subject to military conscription and be put in a support role.
	That's your personal opinion or are you trying to like?
	I don't know why you're making it.
	Yes, my position is that, when it comes to military, are you an egalitarian?
	Am I an egalitarian?
	Uh yes, I am an egalitarian.
	Do you believe that men and women are different?
	Absolutely yes.
	Why would you be an egalitarian?
	That doesn't make sense.
	Why should everyone be treated?
	There's a difference.
	Of course men and women are different, but when it comes to when it comes to rights and obligations in the same way, for example, do you, do you think we should uh, repeal the 19th amendment?
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, I can see why.
	I mean, we're never going to.
	I'm being realistic, that's never going to happen.
	I'm saying like it would have been better if we never had the 19th amendment, that's.
	I'm sure a lot of the girls here appreciate your hot take on on.
	Do they know what the 19th amendment is?
	I don't really know.
	She okay, so basically, she doesn't want women to vote.
	Is what Mary's saying here?
	I, I just I don't want a lot of people to vote, but I mean, if we're gonna start somewhere once, I mean, I think that you could be uneducated like that doesn't have anything to do with your gender um, I just think that women are heavily influenced by groupthink, by emotions, collectivism and, And yeah, are easily brainwashed.
	And that's why most of them vote for the left.
	You can respond to her.
	I don't have the energy to do that.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	That's okay.
	I mean, I'm just saying to get back to talking about dating myself.
	Men are more, they have a better ability to vote on issues that they're emotionally disaffected from.
	I like to do that.
	You guys feel free to rebuttal if you want to provide a rebuttal.
	I'm going to do it because they know they're wrong.
	No, it's weird how you categorize women and like you don't put yourself in the shoes of your own gender.
	No, of course I'm a woman.
	No, but it feels like you're like, you're othering us and it's like we're the best.
	I definitely don't mean to do that.
	And let me correct myself.
	I think, well, obviously I'm a woman.
	Obviously, I have putting it makes it.
	There's no me without my womanhood and femininity.
	That's like innate to me.
	But I think that there are ways women can be statistically generalized.
	They have high openness, high neuroticism, okay?
	Also, like better ability to empathize, things like that.
	And there are ways that I differ.
	I'm low in neuroticism, high in disagreeability.
	Okay.
	Women are high in agreeability.
	Like, I've noticed these things about myself.
	So when I'm saying, like, women on the whole, I'm making generalizations.
	There are obviously many exceptions.
	But these generalizations are true.
	Like, women are high in neuroticism, high in openness, high in agreeability.
	These things affect their voting patterns, would they not?
	It's not about just voting, though, because at the beginning of the podcast, you're talking about how women shouldn't be in STEM and how women aren't supposed to be like pilots.
	Now, you're saying that women can't vote.
	The women who are excellent at STEM roles should be in STEM.
	I'm just saying that's way more rare than finding the men who are excellent in those roles because of the natural differences between the genders.
	I wouldn't even say it's natural.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, I don't think it has to do anything with biology.
	I think there's a reason to why there isn't a lot of females in STEM.
	We're not all like blank slates.
	Like there are ways that men are naturally different from women.
	Well, I think it's even just because females are the caregivers usually to children and things like that.
	And it's just because we're primarily like caregivers to children and things like that.
	And most of the time, you don't have enough time to have a career.
	As to a male, I mean, if your job is to provide, you're going to have more than enough time to develop your career compared to when you have to be a caretaker and have a career.
	I think academia and industries are trying to completely upend those social factors though by making mandatory quotas for women in STEM fields and affirmative action and all of these things.
	It's all artificially making up for the fact that men are just naturally inclined toward certain roles and women are not.
	And vice versa.
	And vice versa.
	Yeah, of course.
	Let's bring it back to dating semi-kind of sort of, but not really.
	So this is semi-kind of, sort of dating related.
	Has anybody here ever had a stalker?
	Like a crazy ex that stalked you?
	Anybody?
	Anyone?
	So my question is, you know, oftentimes these stalkers might come up from past relationship experiences, past relationships, unrequited love.
	That's typically, I think, oftentimes these stalking situations come from.
	They just won't leave you alone.
	I don't know.
	Has anyone here ever known like a truly just unhinged, crazy person?
	I mean, my mom has had a stalker.
	Anybody?
	Yeah.
	Show of hands.
	A friend of mine had a stalker.
	I have a question.
	Let's say you had a stalker, like a crazy ex, that you told them, hey, stop, leave me alone, stop contacting me, blah, blah, blah.
	And they just wouldn't.
	Someone who you just cannot reason with, you've told them, leave me alone.
	They keep trying to contact you, calling you whatever.
	Let's say they start coming to your house, whatever.
	That can be pretty scary, right?
	In that situation, and who knows, maybe they even try to break in or something.
	I saw a video the other day.
	This crazy ex-boyfriend tried to break into his girlfriend's house and it was caught on the ring doorbell.
	In that situation, would you want a gun to defend yourself?
	I want to start with you, and then we'll go around this way.
	If I didn't have any children, then yes.
	Okay.
	If you did have children, then you wouldn't?
	No.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think just a lot of things can go wrong when you have children.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I feel like there's different weapons, like a taser, or maybe like my stepdad used to keep like a baseball bat for like intruders or whatever.
	I feel like that's more like a realistic approach than a gun.
	Baseball bat?
	Yeah.
	I just feel like a firearm in a house, especially like if you have children or if you have guests or family members, I just I'm personally against that.
	So I would go for more like a taser or like something more realist, not realistic, but like for me realistic, I guess.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Exactly the same.
	Everything else you said.
	Can I ask like a follow-up question?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are you guys saying no because you guys would feel like responsible if something were to happen or because you feel scared to the fact that you just own a gun?
	No, I'm not scared of the fact of owning a gun.
	It's the consequences of the gun.
	I'd like to revise the question a little bit.
	You know your ex-boyfriend who's now your stalker, you know he owns firearms.
	Does that change your answer at all?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's kind of crazy.
	Okay, that like completely changes the question.
	This is like firearms.
	If he brings a gun to my house, like if he's breaking in my house with a gun, that's a different story.
	But you don't know.
	That's insane.
	Sure.
	No, but in that situation, would you want a gun to take away?
	Oh, I wouldn't even, I, no, this man, I would have the police like, like, depending on if like he's already there, like, and he just breaks in, and I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm screwed.
	Like, he's shooting me, I'm dead.
	If, then I would, I would, and this is very unrealistic.
	I would own a gun, yes, but I would never have it get to this point where my ex would be breaking into my house with a gun trying to get at me.
	If that makes sense.
	That wouldn't really, if you have, like, someone in the, like, you don't really have much of a say when somebody is unhinged and you cannot reason with them.
	Well, as of right now, I can't, because I don't have an ex.
	So I can't, I don't have anyone who's coming after me with a gun.
	No, but I'm.
	This is like a what if you don't?
	Well, my what if is.
	Okay.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I would not own a gun.
	Okay, what about you?
	You kind of changed the scenario, right?
	Yeah.
	like if my ex-boyfriend had a gun sorry i i almost sorry Should Raker not have a gun?
	He's breaking into your house.
	Would you prefer to have a gun to defend yourself?
	Honestly, yeah.
	Okay.
	Mary, what about you?
	Yes.
	I would for sure.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And I'd have a restraining order, and I'd probably set up cameras.
	in the house so I would know if he was coming.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I have, we have a couple notes here from, let me see.
	Violet, your favorite first date was at a strip club.
	Oh yeah.
	I was like, where?
	Just in your pre-show notes that you sent us.
	Yes, my favorite first date was at a strip club.
	I have fun at strip clubs.
	Girls are really nice to me.
	And one time it was a first date.
	And, you know, you just party, you all dance together.
	And yeah.
	Last night I went to a strip club too in LA and that was really fun.
	But it's a little strip club journey I'm going on just supporting other girls in the industry.
	No, I just like to throw them ones and talk to them.
	Do you want to go to a male strip club?
	I've never been to a male strip club.
	No, I want to go.
	Have you?
	No.
	Okay.
	I feel like if it's a bucket list.
	I feel like it's going to be more of a performance, you know, going to a male strip club.
	It's like magic mic.
	Yeah, yeah, like that.
	Probably.
	But I like to just, yeah, it's fun going to girls' strip clubs because the guys are cheap.
	Like, they're like hustling out there and the guys aren't throwing any money.
	And so I'm like, whatever.
	I'll just show you all.
	Do you have a gun?
	And the girls are really nice.
	One of those money guns.
	No, I need to get one.
	That's a good idea.
	I got to keep one of those in my van.
	You were also asking, how many dates before sleeping with a guy?
	Yes.
	So what do you think, Violet?
	I don't know.
	That's why I was wondering, like, what, when you're dating, how many dates?
	What do you do?
	I've never really dated.
	Well, you've had sexual partners, right?
	Yes, but it's always been geared towards my sexual exploring.
	So I'm always just getting people, like my photographer, he's someone that I have a close connection with.
	We work together, but it's not like we're dating.
	Like, he's married.
	Okay.
	Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Whoa!
	Wait.
	You brought this up four hours ago.
	You're who you sleep with, by the way.
	Sometimes, yeah.
	You sleep with your photographer who is married.
	And I assume his wife knows.
	Yes, they're in an open relationship.
	Because marriage doesn't mean anything anymore.
	That's why I don't want to get married.
	I don't want to get married.
	But it's to you.
	You have to be the same shit.
	Checkmate, Mary.
	Like, just because someone.
	Just because people in your neighborhood don't celebrate Christmas doesn't mean you're not going to celebrate it.
	You still have to keep this tradition alive in your household.
	I celebrate Kwanzaa.
	Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
	Please.
	I'm so sorry.
	Please.
	I'm just thinking everyone celebrates.
	Please be considerate of people's non whatever.
	Okay, never mind.
	There's other questions.
	I'm sorry.
	I really didn't mean to offend you.
	What is this about Christmas?
	I was just, he was saying, like, oh, I'm not going to get married because everybody takes it so.
	Because Santa's going to take half my present.
	No, I'm just saying, like, just because everyone else is doing something one way doesn't mean you have to do it the other way, obviously.
	Everyone kind of knows that.
	Mrs. Claus is going to divorce you.
	So how long should you wait before sleeping with a guy again?
	Please let me know.
	When there's a commitment.
	Like you're in a relationship.
	So I mean, that just depends how well.
	Three months?
	Two months?
	It depends.
	Okay.
	I don't think there's a number.
	Like, I don't think there's a number.
	I think it just depends where you are.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It depends on like your comfortability with them.
	If you really trust them, I mean, go for it.
	I can't really say much in this topic because I've never dated around or anything like that.
	But I mean.
	But I mean, you've hooked up with guys, right?
	No.
	Zero?
	Zero.
	Zero?
	Zero.
	Did not know.
	Yeah.
	Congrats.
	Oh, thanks.
	I guess.
	No, I don't really fuck around like that.
	I just kind of put myself first, like I was saying when we were talking about the whole dating thing.
	But yeah, I don't really know on this aspect.
	I guess it just really depends on the person.
	Worker, what about you?
	Depends.
	I disagree with you.
	It just depends.
	Yeah, I think it just depends.
	Definitely not like after the first date.
	Here's a better question.
	What's the fastest that you've ever?
	And I'll know, Mary, if you want to answer the first one.
	The first one.
	should you wait is it i mean no offense to any of you because you're only saying this since you've had no guidance but like all the shit that you're saying it's just the confusing everyone makes rules for themselves shit that gets people hurt these days and um leads women into situations where they're giving up their purity to a guy who doesn't actually care about them and isn't willing to commit to them so So the only real commitment in my mind is marriage.
	That's my perspective.
	Also, I believe in sacramental marriages.
	I'm religious, which most people don't.
	So that is when you should have a sexual relationship is when there's a commitment, which is marriage.
	But even in marriage, like what she was talking about, they're married, but they have an open relationship, which means even though there's a ring of marriage.
	But that's not real marriage.
	that's a joke.
	So your opinion on real marriages is...
	It's a sacrament.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Not just a contract or like a roommate situation.
	Like that guy and his wife, that sounds like people who are like roommates or like friends or something.
	Yeah, there's definitely a common thing with that.
	Obviously open marriages, swinging and stuff like that.
	What do you guys think about open marriages and swinging?
	No.
	Haram.
	You're not, but I don't judge people.
	Like, if that's what works for them, that's, you know, I don't care.
	In the end, it never really works.
	So it would never work.
	No, it would never work for me.
	Wait, what's that?
	I was kind of thinking the same thing.
	Like, obviously, I'm around people in those kind of relationships, but personally.
	The guy who you're currently fucking is in that situation.
	Right.
	I'm not committed to him.
	He's committed to someone else.
	And that's their relationship.
	What ways he could be?
	He's not really committed to that.
	But they're married.
	I'm not married to him.
	That's their decision.
	So I'm not denying that that's a thing, but when I get married, I would like to not be in an open relationship.
	But you're, I mean, you're kind of okay with it right now with your current situation.
	Yeah, she's okay with it.
	That's her situation.
	And he's okay with it.
	Zero self-respect.
	Were they married before you met him?
	No.
	So they got married while you were working with him.
	It's open.
	It's open, I guess.
	Do you know that it's an open relationship?
	It is an open relationship.
	What about swinging?
	What do you guys think about that?
	Like, have you ever known anyone to be like a swinger couple?
	Probably not okay with swinging.
	What's swinging?
	I've never known anybody to be swinging.
	What is the difference between swinging and an open relationship?
	I think swinging, you're all participating, like together.
	There's like clubs and that's even worse and events and stuff.
	Yeah, it seems very crazy.
	It a real hobby.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, if you did that, you shouldn't be in a relationship in the first place.
	Yeah, okay.
	What about you?
	What do you think?
	Me the same.
	I don't really have an opinion on it.
	Like, if you can, if you want to do it, do it.
	It's just up to the person, you know.
	I don't, I would not.
	So this came up, just changing topics here a little bit.
	This came up in one of our previous shows.
	And would you guys object a guy not wanting to date a transgender woman?
	Mary chopped in the water.
	Doesn't want to.
	Would you object?
	Like, do you think it's wrong for a guy to not want to date a transgender woman?
	No.
	No.
	It's a personal opinion.
	It's a personal preference.
	Yeah.
	It really depends on who they are.
	Like, what they want.
	So if a guy was just like, yeah, I don't date transgender women.
	Like, that.
	Well, if that's what they want, then I guess so.
	But they can also be like, oh, we don't click.
	Or maybe they do click.
	And then it's like the thing going back to what we were talking about.
	Like, it just really depends on how well they mix with this person.
	No, but without even, like, they just wouldn't even give a transgender woman a chance.
	So there is no opportunity for there to be a click or not.
	It's just that's a personal preference.
	I think this happens, like, well, obviously it's not the same, but it happens a lot with girls.
	They're like, I can't date a guy shorter than six foot or whatever.
	I won't even give him a chance.
	It's probably a little too much.
	It's really big.
	No, but a woman with a dick is a little different.
	I mean, I don't know.
	It's a preference too.
	It's all about the preferences.
	I just think she means like having a closed mindset like that, kind of like cutting all those people out.
	Like I wouldn't even consider it.
	Yeah.
	So do you object to that though?
	To having the closed mindset of.
	I don't really care.
	Like they're going to make their own decisions.
	Like if they are really against like transgender, like dating transgender women, so be it.
	Like you are inclined to your own personal opinion and you can have that.
	But your view of it, do you think that it's closed-minded or they're not being open because they just off-rip, they just wouldn't want to date somebody who's transgender?
	I mean, I definitely think it's like it's cutting off some of your options.
	Like if when people say like you have like a type or whatever, I feel like that's really narrowing down the kind of people you can meet because of this thing you have in your head like as a type.
	So I feel like people should just be open for anything and that being one of them is maybe you'll end up finding in love with a transgender woman like a girl with a certain color of hair, not a guy who refuses to date guys.
	But they aren't a guy.
	They don't but this is YouTube so I can't even say what I really think so never mind.
	What do you think?
	Like do you think it's closed-minded or is it just a valid I mean I think it's valid just how everybody's preferences are valid, you know?
	Sure, no, but I think what I'm trying to get at, you acknowledge that people are entitled to having their preferences, but do you think it is a superficial preference?
	Do you think it's an unfair preference or an unreasonable or maybe a bit more closed-minded?
	No, I do think it's valid.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Do you have any?
	I don't really have a comment on it.
	I think however you identify with your sexuality too like depends if you I don't know.
	I don't really have a comment.
	So you don't you have no issue with a guy who just like would not date a transgender woman?
	Yeah, I don't, I mean, I totally understand.
	It's how you identify with your sexuality, too.
	You know, because if you're considered straight, you know, I feel, I don't, I'm not very like, I don't know a lot, so I don't want to like say the wrong thing without knowing, you know?
	So I really just think it's how you identify.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	For example, I would not date a transgender woman.
	I have no problem with transgender people.
	But I would not date a woman, a transgender woman.
	No.
	I don't care if, like, there's, that's just an immediate no for me.
	Do you want to tell us why?
	Well, I have, I have a genitalia preference for one.
	What if they have a surgically produced?
	That's, it's still, it would still be sure.
	Well, it would still be a genitalia preference because that's not an actual vagina.
	Oh, they can get a really realistic i heard, Brian.
	No.
	No.
	Also.
	I heard that.
	Also, I'm attracted to females.
	They have the technology.
	Well, yeah, but I mean, the other thing is that I'm just attracted to females.
	So, yeah.
	Good point.
	Yeah.
	You can't change into a female.
	There's some debate over whether you can become a woman.
	You can change into a woman.
	No, but you can't.
	Well, sex is.
	You can't change.
	Isn't even a thing that exists.
	Well, we're getting into some interesting territory there.
	Interesting.
	Maybe you need to educate yourself.
	Here, let me do a chat.
	We have Seaberg.
	People try to sell you on ideas and you will buy some of these ideas.
	Some of the ideas that you have bought are bad.
	The sooner you can realize this, the better.
	I believe most mental illnesses are just bad ideas get sold on a better idea.
	Damn, that's some like poetic philosophical shit.
	Thank you, Seaberg.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	All right, we have J-Man.
	Violet, can you read this?
	Okay, here we go.
	Hey, Brian, any plans on addressing the recent comments made about you by FNF?
	Some valid criticisms there.
	Even though slightly hypocritical, maybe making an appearance on their show to clear your name.
	Also, hi, Mary.
	Sure.
	Hi.
	What was said?
	I'll just address it very quickly.
	What I want to do is actually do a thorough written response.
	Maybe I'll do an actual in-video response, but I haven't really perfectly determined what my response would be and be able to precisely articulate all my counter-arguments to it.
	The brief answer would be just as a point of clarity.
	Basically, Fresh and Fit is a very similar podcast to ours.
	They started before us.
	I've repeatedly credited them to some degree as inspiration for the show.
	I've had nothing but positive things to say about them.
	I've said, I've shouted them out a whole bunch.
	I've reached out to both Myron and Fresh to attempt to arrange for a collaboration.
	We have some mutual connections that I've tried to get an intro that way.
	It's been clear to me for a very long time that they're not interested in collaborating, which is fine.
	I am not owed a collaboration much in the same way that I do not owe anybody else who reaches out to me to want to collaborate with me.
	I don't have an issue with that.
	What I likely suspect is they view me as competition ergo.
	They do not want to compete, or excuse me, they do not want to collaborate with a competitor in the same way that you might, for example, say and shout out to Link or Gerf on Reddit for this one.
	Coca-Cola may not want to collaborate with Pepsi.
	I get it.
	Although what I would argue is that when it comes to the digital content creation space, it's not like a zero-sum game where if I have viewers, I'm taking away from their viewers.
	I don't really think that's how it works.
	I would compare it to like two musical artists, let's say two rap musicians.
	Rap musicians frequently collaborate, even though they're in the exact same genre.
	They're making the same type of music.
	Perhaps their lyrical structure is similar.
	The instrumentals have in C major.
	There's all kinds of things where you can find a lot of commonality in music.
	There's this complaint that, oh, well, that, you know, that the podcast is a ripoff or a copy.
	My response to that would be, first off, nobody has an intellectual property right to a live dating podcast.
	So there's certainly no copyright infringement or intellectual property infringement.
	You cannot trademark an idea.
	Now, in the same way that, for example, there's allowed to be more than one rapper.
	There's allowed to be more than one horror film.
	You're allowed to have more than one drama.
	There's a lot of similarities.
	What I would say is they are not the first to do a podcast.
	They're not the first to do a live podcast.
	They're not the first to do a dating podcast.
	They're not the first to do a dating roundtable.
	They're not the first to talk about these things.
	I would argue that Tim Likas, Patrice O'Neal, and a couple other people have been talking about this for a long time, dating all the way back to the 90s, early 2000s, Tom Likas.
	When it comes to dating shows, you have Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew dating all the way back to the 90s.
	You have, I've seen Oprah episodes where they assembled a panel of men and women and talked about dating.
	I've heard about who should pay on first dates.
	There's old retro video you can pull up of Oprah actually talking to Warren Farrell, who's a men's rights advocate, about who should pay for first dates.
	These conversations have been going on for a very long time before some of these people were even born.
	Who else?
	You had, so Patrice O'Neal, Tom Likas, Adam Carolla.
	I think I'm missing one.
	You have Kevin Samuels.
	You have a bunch of people.
	Oh, Howard Stern has been bringing on random women and talking about dating and relationships for a very long time.
	We've obviously gathered to some degree inspiration from their show.
	Now, in any case, if they don't want to collaborate, that's fine.
	My issue is when you start, and I'd rather save this for a proper actual response because we're limited on time here during the show.
	He said essentially that I'm in it for the money and that we don't share the same values because one time I promoted a sex toy.
	Again, I'd rather save my actual rebuttal when I've actually given it more thought.
	There's a lot of things I can point out in how they choose to conduct themselves that, I mean, I would say get off your high horse when it comes to your claims of value.
	Also, I could also make very compelling arguments of these accusations that we're just in it for the money.
	I'm prepared to show that in a lot of ways you guys have monetized your audience to a far greater degree than I have when it comes to, you know, our, again, I don't have an issue with the way they're monetizing.
	I don't have an issue, but don't make criticisms of me when it comes to the way I'm monetizing.
	And I could point out some ways that you guys, again, I don't have an issue with the way they're moving, but don't get off your high horse, okay?
	This cope about he's just in it for the money.
	I mean, my dudes, you guys charge a lot of money for some of the products you sell.
	The thing is, is that they bill themselves.
	I don't bill myself as a dating coach, a guru, or an expert.
	I'm just a normal guy that, and I talk about dating and relationships.
	I will never bill myself as an expert or a guru or a coach.
	I'm not going to do landing page funnels and charge you guys $500 to buy some product.
	Again, I don't have that.
	I have no issue with them doing that.
	But if you're going to get on your podcast when I've had nothing but nice things to say about you and essentially attack me, the insinuation that you're making with Fresh shaking his head, like, bro, this guy's in it for the money.
	Actually, should we?
	I don't know how.
	Look, it's just like you cannot sit there and say, I'm in it for the money when you guys are charging people thousands of dollars to go to your subscriber milestone parties.
	You're selling a $500 course on how to DM girls on Instagram.
	You're selling a $700 course on how to be a high-value male.
	You are doing live events where you're selling VIP tickets.
	We do super chats.
	We do donations.
	There are different triggers for that for us.
	We have memberships.
	We have, let's see, we got merch.
	We have, fuck, what's the other?
	Oh, merch, memberships, super chats, donations.
	I'm trying to think if there's another one that I'm blanking on here.
	What's that?
	Oh, no, that's not.
	They do all of that and more.
	So, I mean, it is what it is.
	We're not going to collaborate.
	I've reached out to them.
	And also, there's this thing like I've reached out to them to extend an olive branch.
	I say, and hey, let's work together.
	They either just don't respond or it is what it is.
	There's a lot of backstory.
	I'm not going to get into all of it, but it's kind of silly because I don't think it's a zero-sum game.
	I think actually it'd be a very mutually beneficial collaboration, but they don't view it in that way.
	Look, I'm not entitled to a collab.
	They've left me on red.
	They don't respond to me.
	I've even just wanted to have a conversation with Myron.
	He doesn't want to.
	I'm not all prissy about it.
	I just haven't followed up.
	I don't have an issue with them not wanting to collaborate.
	But when you go on your show, just say you don't want to collaborate because I'm a competitor.
	I get it.
	But don't get off your fucking high horse about, oh, don't share values, bro.
	I'm not going to get into it.
	I don't feel the need to engage in some beef.
	And there's a lot of things I could say about your guys' values because you're criticizing mine.
	And you're basically accusing me of grifting.
	I mean, again, there's a lot of things I could say.
	What I would point out is, again, actually, fuck it.
	Pull up Walter Weeks' Instagram.
	I think there might be a tab for it.
	I'm in it for the money.
	Pull it up.
	I'd like to remind you, actually, go back really quick.
	So I still drive a car I bought 10 years ago, a $20,000 Toyota.
	I don't have any bling.
	I wear $20 flannels.
	I wear $5 black t-shirts.
	I wear sweatpants from Costco.
	Pull up Walter Weeks.
	Let's talk about the money.
	It's all about the money, right?
	Go down.
	Okay.
	Scroll down.
	Click that one with the G-Wagon.
	Okay.
	Life is too short to drive born cars.
	Okay.
	X out of that.
	He's got, scroll up, scroll up.
	This one.
	He's got some bling.
	He's got a thing.
	I don't know if he has a Rolex.
	Click on the green car one.
	Here, you're gonna have to move us to the other side.
	Okay, is that a Lamborghini?
	Cool.
	Next, go down.
	There's another Lamborghini.
	There's another Lamborghini.
	I don't know how much your necklace costs, but okay, scroll down.
	There's a red lamborgh.
	I assume he owns these, right?
	I'm pretty sure he owns these.
	There's you on a private jet.
	Scroll down.
	Okay, click the one with the three cars on the far left here.
	That's your three cars.
	God's plan, blessed, and highly favored.
	Okay, scroll down.
	Up a little bit.
	Up the one with the umbrella.
	Why do you have an umbrella, dude?
	It's sunny.
	You can exile that.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	I'm trying to find where there's a.
	Oh, this one of him getting off the private jet.
	Let's click on that.
	No, The private jet.
	Scroll down.
	Yeah.
	My life is a movie.
	It should be on film.
	Flexing with 100k.
	That shit sounds silly.
	Two Lambos at the same time.
	That shit sound litty.
	Now, bear in mind when Myron was saying that I'm in it for the money.
	Fresh was shaking his head, like in disapproval that I'm just in it for the money.
	I'll know your lifestyle is rather superficial, but pull it back up the Instagram.
	Okay, hold on.
	Grid one motorsports donated $100.
	One ST Violet, get out of CEA and go find a tall, cool Texan to marry you.
	Second, Brian, I have some issues with the financial side of the Red Build space, specifically Burr, etc., and some of the relationship advice they give.
	You show is cool, so here is few bucks.
	Yo, grid one, I appreciate the support, man.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Go ahead.
	Click on the one, the next one to Lambo.
	Yeah.
	Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you Lamborghini.
	I think that's the extent of what I need to show.
	These accusations that I'm in it for the money, meanwhile, you are sitting across from someone who, at least to me, appears to very much be in it for the money given the lifestyle that he is trying to sell.
	He has multiple exotic cars, bling jewelry, etc.
	So I think you ought to look, Myron, you ought to look internally at the people that you have around you before criticizing me for allegedly being in it just for the money.
	That's all I'll have to say about that.
	So moving on.
	Let's see.
	And look, I don't have anything against any of the like, bro.
	Whatever.
	So, look, I don't have anything against them monetizing, but don't sit there and sit like it's ridiculous, bro.
	Okay.
	Do you feel better now?
	It's not whether I feel better or not.
	I'm just addressing.
	Yeah, like letting it out.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Yeah.
	No, I really appreciated it.
	Okay.
	I appreciate your guys' patronizing tone with your questioning.
	But look, I've said nothing but positive things about these guys.
	They don't want to collaborate.
	That's fine.
	But it is what it is.
	So whatever.
	Okay, I'll know where we were.
	Well, Twitch.
	Oh, yeah, we need to do the thumbnail.
	Yo, Shadow, thank you for the Prime Raven.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drops afollow.
	Jobs a prime sub.
	Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, man.
	it's kind of frustrating, like, um, what's that?
	Uh, I'm just I'm trying to think if there's anything else I want to address with the whole FNF thing.
	I'll just say like you guys monetize your audience in a lot of ways.
	I don't have an issue with it, but get off your fucking high horse talking about I'm just in it for the money, bro.
	You guys charge you guys do your 1 million subparty, $550 general admission, $1,550 for meet and greets.
	This is what you're charging your viewers, by the way.
	I don't have an issue with it, but don't say I'm just in it for the money when you guys are fleecing your, like, doing this to your audience.
	$2,000 meet and greet, $4,000 for a VIP experience, $5,500 take a scene in the studio to experience a live show.
	Look, I don't have an issue with any of that, but like, if you're going to criticize me, I'm going to defend myself.
	So whatever.
	Like, it is what it is.
	You guys have promoted gambling.
	You guys promote penis pills.
	You guys promote, again, I don't have an issue with it.
	I did a Bluetooth.
	I did one or two Blue Chew promotions too.
	I don't have an issue with it.
	But like, you guys promote gambling.
	You guys promote penis pills.
	You guys have done promotions where girls were naked on your show.
	You have a stripper pull in your show.
	You have girls twerking on you.
	Like, fuck, like, this shit about values.
	It's fucking bogus.
	Fresh charges $1,000 for a 20-minute phone consultation.
	That's $3,000 for a one-hour phone consultation.
	It's just like, whatever, man.
	It is what it is.
	Okay.
	So, there's probably other shit.
	Whatever.
	Would you ever do Collins on this show?
	Whatever.
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	I think that would be cool.
	Because then they could make it out to someone and then that someone could answer.
	And then when you hang up, you all talk about it.
	Yeah.
	That's a good idea.
	You should do blind dates too.
	Like, set people up.
	I think that would be fun.
	I think people would be scared.
	Let's brainstorm your show right now.
	What's that?
	I'd be down ideas.
	Yeah, I'd be down for a blind date.
	Yeah.
	Also, like, this is your job, right?
	This is what you do for money.
	Why would you feel bad about that?
	No, I mean, the reality is, anybody who's in the content creation space and says they do it out of the goodness of their heart, obviously, like, if I can advocate for men, like, these guys say I'm not true red.
	Actually, oh, can you pull up?
	There's a photo.
	It's like a SpongeBob photo.
	This is kind of, could you make it smaller, the video?
	You're not really a red pill, Brian.
	You're here just for the money.
	Men, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like, this is, this was from Length for Gerf on Reddit.
	Like, this is what it is.
	Like, anybody who does content creation, like, they want, again, get off your fucking high horse.
	Like, honestly, I actually come at this more from a men's rights perspective than a red pill perspective.
	That's a whole nother fucking conversation.
	Shout out, like, Length or Gerf for that one.
	But anybody who is a content creator who says they're not doing it for the money, it's like, come on, bruv.
	Go check out all his exotic cars.
	Check out his G-Wagon.
	Like, I don't know.
	Whatever, dude.
	So.
	Period.
	Clearly, you're not going to be able to do it.
	Do y'all watch?
	Do y'all watch Fashion Fit?
	I've seen like a couple episodes or like clips of episodes.
	Clips.
	Like on Instagram.
	All right, let's move on.
	Let's move on.
	I addressed it.
	It's just like annoying.
	So, okay.
	Did you want to talk about body count?
	It sounded like you had an objection to the body count thing.
	I did.
	Wait.
	Like men having a preference for body count.
	You did make one offhand comment, but I'm not sure what you meant by that.
	I mean, to me, like, body count isn't important, personally.
	Okay.
	Go around the table on this.
	Um, how do I feel about body count?
	Is that I wasn't really sure.
	Okay.
	Um, yeah, I mean, from as a girl, I feel like for if I'm dating somebody, it body count doesn't really matter.
	But yeah, I'm, I don't know.
	I just feel like the more experience they have, that, like, maybe the better they are.
	I don't really know.
	I can't really talk on that topic, seeing that I have zero.
	Chris Chambers says, look at how these chicks are looking at Brian, and he's not even being emotional.
	This is why we don't express our feelings to women.
	I don't know, were they like all butt hurt that I was talking about this?
	Or was it in response to that?
	I think we just don't understand the context.
	No, I was very confused.
	I feel bad of your situation, though.
	Yeah.
	Because like looking at that and seeing you, like they're fucked for what they said.
	I don't even know what they said, but I'm on your side, Brian.
	I'm on your side.
	I think if you just keep doing your thing, though, eventually they're going to be like, dang, we should have collabed with him.
	What's that?
	Just keep doing your thing, and eventually they'll be like, oh, man, we totally should have collabed with him.
	No, I mean, that's just, it's pretty clear that's entirely off the table.
	There is a lot of people.
	I don't think they give a fuck, to be honest, but that's fine.
	Again, like, it was very, it's been clear to me for a very long time that they're not interested in collaborating.
	Like, for months, it's been very clear they don't want to collaborate.
	That's totally cool.
	But, like, just say you don't want to, I'm a competitor.
	You don't want to collaborate.
	But when you start making these accusations about me, I feel compelled to defend myself.
	And, like, if don't throw, don't throw rocks in glass.
	Is that, how's the saying?
	Fuck, I'm putting it in the middle of the street.
	Don't throw stones in the glass house.
	Don't throw stones in the glass house.
	Like, there's a lot of things I could criticize you on along your lines of criticisms of me.
	So it is what it is.
	I was going to say, it's very clear you put so much time and effort into this.
	And like, you probably invested a lot in your equipment.
	And it's clear that you put a lot into it.
	And why shouldn't you get something back from it?
	I mean, it's work.
	Oh, yeah.
	I work 80 hours a week.
	Yeah.
	So like what they're saying about that it's about money.
	I mean but then they're flaunting Lamborghinis and jewelry and all this stuff.
	It's like yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean I work I work very hard work 70 80 hours a week.
	I have $10,000 of expenses a month running the show.
	So yes, I'm trying to like at least be able to break even on that.
	And you know for a long time we didn't.
	I was $100,000 in the red doing the show.
	And so yeah, $10,000 a month in expenses.
	That's a lot.
	So whatever.
	Moving on, moving on.
	Okay, body count, whatever.
	I think they already answered.
	Yes.
	I think we stopped on her, but she's gone.
	Oh, she dips.
	Or she didn't dip.
	We'll go to Priscilla.
	Oh, it's my turn.
	Oh.
	Yeah, personally, I do think it matters.
	And also for both genders.
	I think it matters.
	I think body count doesn't matter for me.
	Would you say that?
	It's like the same number for both genders?
	No, I think.
	no not exactly the same oh not exactly the same but but i do think it's hypocritical for guys to like shame women for having a high body count if they think they can they can also have a high body count like Like they expect women to have a low body count when they themselves don't have one.
	Like, I think that's very hypocritical.
	You want me to go?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I agree that body count definitely matters for both men and women.
	It absolutely matters because it affects your ability to pair bond and have long-term relationships.
	As someone with a zero body count, I would be entitled to expect that out of a partner, but I don't.
	I definitely understand why it's more important to men, though, because of the biological differences between men and women.
	I think that having a high body count for a woman, it's definitely more detrimental to her ability to have a long-term relationship than it would be for a man, just because they're more able to dissociate sex from intimacy, from emotions.
	Now, that's a bad thing if you do dissociate those two things.
	Like, men absolutely shouldn't do that, but they're just more able to do that than women are just based on our biology.
	But yeah, what do you say?
	You work on.
	Oh, I don't care.
	Body count.
	Yeah, no, I picked up a lot of things.
	If a guy were to have, like, a three-digit body count, I definitely would think that's a red flag.
	I would not date a guy.
	I think 300 is excessive.
	Yeah, 100.
	Yeah, just like, that's kind of crazy.
	That's insane.
	Even two digits, two digits is like.
	Yeah, even that is a lot.
	It's like above average.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I don't think I answered your question.
	You asked, like, do you think like, or I think, no, like, oh, sorry, what's your, like, your friend.
	I think you asked me to say that.
	Yeah, I was asking, like, if you think, so if a high body count for a girl was like three or whatever, do you think it would be the same number for a guy, too?
	And I know in my specific case, I've only been with one dude.
	Yeah.
	So, like, I'm not going to reject a guy for having like two body counts simply because it's more than mine.
	I think it depends.
	Like, does he, has he slept with multiple women because he's dated that many women?
	I can get by that to a certain extent.
	But if he's just hooked up with multiple women, then I wouldn't go for someone like that.
	Like, if he's just doing it.
	I would not date a girl who has a high body count.
	What do you say is high?
	I mean, it depends on the age, but I mean, definitely over 10 is high.
	I'm pretty sure this, the average for women is like lifetime.
	That's if you're counting all the generations is five.
	That's some old statistics, right?
	It includes the older generations, which is why it's lower.
	If you looked at the different age demographics, I'm sure younger women have a higher average.
	But for women, total lifetime, it's five.
	For men, total, lifetime, it's like eight average.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	Yeah, high body count.
	Obviously, it's the lower the better, you know?
	It's a good answer.
	The lower the better.
	The lower the better.
	I mean, five is better than seven.
	Three is better than five.
	One is better than three.
	Zero is better than one.
	So the lower the better, I'd say, generally speaking.
	Me too.
	You too?
	You prefer a guy with a low body count or?
	Yeah, lower, because I do know that like when you're hooking up a lot, it's taking something out of you every time.
	So I would like to have the maximum emotional capacity.
	I would say if a guy had a past with porn addiction, that would be a lot more of a serious concern to me than if he had a body count that's on the higher end.
	Interesting.
	That is interesting.
	Because at least if he was hooking up with women, he has to still reckon with them as a human being and interact with them.
	And at least it proves that he had the ability to make women like him, even for a limited temporary period of time.
	Well, I think socializing and going out is just, yeah, you have to do that.
	But when it comes to hooking up, like if you're horny, I would say go masturbate and that's going to be better for you.
	Spend more time with yourself and not just hook up with a random person because you're horny.
	I disagree.
	I just think both are bad.
	And I think women have been shamed out of having a standard in regard to men using pornography.
	And that's really wrong.
	Word.
	Like, oh, if you don't, if you're not okay with your boyfriend or husband watching pornography, you must be insecure.
	Like, I've seen that so much.
	And they direct it at men when they prefer a woman with a lower body count.
	No, I would not be okay.
	Like, if we watched porn together, that's fine with me if we watched porn together.
	But if Lobi.
	He's in the other room.
	If he's in the other room watching porn, though, I don't, I would think that's like we're not healthy in our relationship.
	I think the men that are your paying customers are the guy who is in a relationship who is watching porn in another room.
	How do you know that?
	A lot of them are probably single as well, but just like looking at the numbers, like that's definitely true for a big portion of the men who give you money on OnlyFans.
	They're the guy in a relationship who is retreating to pornography instead of having to deal with real intimacy.
	And I think that is destructive, extremely destructive to relationships.
	Okay, porn bad.
	I don't think you guys are going to come to an agreement on that, but we get it.
	Porn bad.
	I need to get, we need to wrap up here pretty soon.
	So, Fally, hey, Brian, thought it was bad, excuse me, thought it was odd that you have anyone on the panel who's never been in a relationship.
	Supposed I assumed you were required to have past relationships to be on the show.
	It's definitely refreshing because I've never been in a relationship either.
	Hey, Fally, maybe you should shoot your shot.
	I don't know.
	But I mean, I think people, even if you haven't been in a relationship, you can still have dating experience.
	You still can have opinions and thoughts.
	And I mean, you still have preferences and there's still things that can be red flags for you.
	You can have interesting dating experiences or anecdotes.
	So I don't think that would, someone's lack of past, like proper relationship would preclude someone from coming to be on the show.
	Oh, we need to react really quick to the, let's do the thumbnail.
	So guys, oh, what the frick?
	Wait, hide it really quick.
	So this was our thumbnail.
	I forgot to mention this at the beginning of the show.
	I think if you guys recall, I mentioned that we had a bunch of girls flake.
	Two of the girls in the thumbnail, the one on the left and the right, they flaked out.
	So I wanted to ask to try to reel them into the conversation, even though they're on the thumbnail, but they're not here.
	One, do you guys think that they're wearing too much makeup in these photos, Nick, if you're able to go back?
	Do you think this is like too much makeup?
	Would you, like, is this too much makeup when it comes to, this is for the chat.
	Would you date a girl who wears this much makeup?
	And then also, let me see, what can I criticize here?
	What about the girl in the middle?
	Would you date the girl in the middle?
	My brows are so overdone in this picture.
	I'm realizing it.
	I wish I would have brushed them out more.
	It's fun.
	Their brows look really good.
	Yeah, so, you know, they both have the little filter on.
	I'm not a big fan of the filters on this photo.
	You know, it's a bit, you know, like the little, what's the one with the dots?
	The little freckles.
	The freckles.
	Maybe those are real freckles, but it might be a filter of freckles.
	Get them tattooed on faces these days.
	Freckles are nice, but like the fake freckles, I feel like you're misrepresenting.
	You guys are misrepresenting.
	Oh, Nick, we got to put on at least one of the videos, I guess.
	Maybe the small one, yeah.
	So, chat, would you date them?
	I don't know.
	I just kind of in the fucking thumbnail, so sorry.
	They literally flaked an hour.
	Well, they flaked an hour before the show, so no, I just put them in the thumbnail.
	How can I reel them into the conversation?
	But me personally, I'm not a big fan of makeup, so I think they're wearing a little too much makeup.
	I prefer girls who wear no or minimum makeup.
	So, yeah.
	I mean, at least they're good at it.
	If they're the ones doing the makeup, they're really pretty, though.
	Many people out there just don't know what they're doing, and they end up looking like a monster for me most of my life.
	I'm trying to think here.
	Trying to think what the example I could give.
	Okay, last thing.
	I want if you guys, last thing, what's your type?
	We'll go around the table, and then we're gonna wrap on that.
	I like, I guess you could say Guy Fieri, Tony Soprano type.
	That's so different.
	Guy Fieri.
	Those are so different.
	What?
	Moth.
	A Nike's old comfortable man.
	Okay.
	Who's strong?
	And like Fieri's strong in the kitchen.
	Soprano's strong in the streets.
	Am I supposed to name a celebrity or just like qualities?
	How long?
	Let me ask you a question.
	Let's say your boyfriend, he got involved in like a Rico case.
	Like he was the underboss for the DeMio crime family.
	And, you know, he got, what's it called?
	There was a Rico case against him.
	Am I supposed to know what a Rico case is?
	What is a Rico case?
	A Rico case.
	Like a rich.
	I don't know.
	Rico means rich in Spanish.
	Racketeering.
	Yeah, it's an acronym.
	Rico.
	Fuck here.
	Let me Google it just so I know what the actual, because it's Rico acronym.
	It stands for Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.
	So he's on trial, like it's a Rico predicate.
	That's like mob gang activity.
	Yeah.
	You said you like a Tony Soprano guy.
	I know, but I don't know the technicalities.
	Okay.
	Let's say your boyfriend goes, your boyfriend or husband goes to prison for 10 years.
	Do you stay with him or?
	Yes, you asked that last time.
	I would.
	I forgot.
	Okay.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, that's a little bit of a.
	What if your girl did?
	What's your type?
	What's your type?
	So someone I'm very attracted to is Post Malone.
	I just love his personality.
	I think he's just like such a softy.
	He's kind of like a gentleman.
	He's funny.
	He's like weird, which I love.
	So yeah.
	That's my type.
	Wow.
	I would say I'm all over the place, but like Devin Booker or Liam Hemsworth, they're all cuties.
	They just have to be like giraffes, you know?
	Giraffes?
	Yeah, tall.
	Oh, okay.
	Long necks.
	Long necks.
	I don't really have one, like a type.
	I mean, a celebrity that I find hot is like Jack Hughes, who's like a hockey player.
	Sure.
	I find him very good looking.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I don't think I have a type, honestly, but like my celebrity crush is like young Dylan O'Brien.
	Yeah, I don't think I really have a specific type, but it could be looks-wise, it could be personality.
	Well, looks like I don't really think I have a specific type, but I am attracted to celebrities like Johnny Depp or Kit Harrington from Game of Thrones.
	Okay.
	Like current Johnny Depp or young Johnny Depp?
	What are we talking about?
	Okay.
	Especially when he was younger, but yeah.
	Wait, would you, if Johnny Depp slid into your DMs and he's like, what's up?
	Would you date him?
	I don't know.
	I feel like he's too good for me.
	I don't think I would.
	I don't think, why would he, why would a celebrity do that to an older person?
	If he did.
	If he did, I don't know.
	I mean, you're an attractive woman.
	He grew up.
	Yeah, he's not with Amber Hurd in.
	Work case.
	Maybe he wants.
	Yeah, I felt so bad for him.
	That he had to go through that.
	Don't do that to him.
	No, of course not.
	Don't take a crap in his bed.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm not going to chop off his finger either.
	But he's not too old for you?
	Like, let's say he was genuine.
	Oh, no, okay.
	Yeah, actually, no, if he was younger, then yeah.
	More than likely.
	You would still go for him, though.
	Yeah, because he is a celebrity, I'll be honest.
	It's interesting, like, the whole age gap stuff goes out the window if the guy's attractive enough or he has some sort of celebrity or status.
	I mean, as long as he finds me attractive, then yeah, like.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	I don't have to.
	My ultimate answer is yes.
	It's just really interesting, like, if we pulled up, like Chris Evans, who he's like in his 40s.
	He's married.
	To someone who's like almost 20 years his junior or 50%.
	He got a lot of flack for that.
	He did get flack.
	He did get flack, but a lot of people that would object to like age gaps, even like younger women would probably jump at the chance of dating like a really famous or high status or really attractive older guy.
	So it's step one, be attractive.
	Step two, don't be unattractive with a lot of things in life.
	Mary, your type?
	I don't think I have a celebrity crush or a physical type.
	He just needs to be taller than me and he needs to be white.
	Okay.
	But as far as personality, you know, charisma, humor, the ability to talk to strangers, I don't know, be fluent in social situations, smart, morally principled, these things.
	Madison.
	Frankie.
	Oh my God, bro.
	I'll give mine.
	I mean, I'd say any race is fine.
	Slight preference for white women, Asian women.
	But I'll date, like, I'll date a black girl.
	I'll date Latino women.
	Like, don't really.
	It's not a deal breaker for me.
	Slight preference, though.
	Short, definitely, starting with the looks, definitely, like, short, petite, fun-size, whatever.
	But I'll date, like, I'll date a woman taller than me.
	I don't really give a fuck.
	Slight preference.
	I'll date a woman who's like 6'5.
	Let's do it.
	Let's go.
	Sears Tower.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	What else?
	No plastic surgery.
	Not a fan of it.
	No fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.
	I think comments.
	What about some like tasteful Botox?
	I don't think.
	Tasteful.
	Tasteful.
	I just prefer no plastic surgery, but again, there's degrees to it.
	Like if BBL is pretty intense compared to like a girl who maybe got like a rhino plasty.
	What if a girl was like, I will get my breast implants taken out for you or my butt implants taken out for you.
	And she was like a 10 all around and that was the only thing.
	And she was like, I'll do that for you.
	Do you have a BBL?
	No, I don't have a BBL.
	You don't?
	That would hurt.
	Like, the recovery time is too long.
	I mean, I just don't want that.
	Yeah.
	I think I'd rather just, I'd be curious what compelled you to get plastic surgery to begin with.
	Yeah, not you, but patriarchy.
	Oh, I thought you were talking about my boobs.
	No, no, I'm not talking about you.
	I'm just talking like...
	They get plastic surgery because of the patriarchy.
	Because of, yeah, because men's, it's all men's fault pretty much.
	It's a man's world.
	No, I would say for that, it's more like the aesthetics world.
	And I think that women sell that a lot, right?
	Don't you think women are very into like products, buying products and selling products?
	Well, I think you can look at like other.
	It's typically like other women that are putting themselves in this light, I think, that is causing it.
	I mean, you look at Kim Kardashian, that has influenced a whole slew of women to crazy fucking surgery.
	I think it's the celebrities that we idolize.
	There's a lot of celebrities that don't have plastic surgery.
	But like the Kardashians are just everywhere.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it's like I don't think they're good role models for women, but I don't think that's a good idea.
	Well, look, again, this is some people might call me like simp for this, but I do think women are beautiful as they are without the need for undergoing dangerous, expensive, and otherwise unnecessary, not medically indicated cosmetic surgery, which at the end of the day, I actually think a lot of these procedures make women look worse.
	Like I think the lipo belly looks worse.
	I think the weird, I don't know if they do something with the hips or something, I don't know, that looks worse.
	I think BBLs look worse.
	So I would much prefer a girl with like small boobs over fake tits.
	I'd prefer a girl with a little pudge, a little belly over a girl with lipo.
	Give me a small lass over a BBL.
	Give me some small upper lip over lip fillers.
	However, take any woman with any of these procedures, however they were before, I'd prefer them as they were.
	I think most men would agree with that, don't you think?
	I think most men prefer women without plastic surgery and who probably wear minimal makeup or no makeup at all.
	I think a lot of women after they get these surgeries done too, like later in life, really regret it.
	Like look at all the Kardashians.
	They're just getting their filler taken out and their butt shrunk.
	I think good point.
	A lot of people take their breast implants out.
	Yeah.
	I know like I have friends who have.
	Don't you have scars from that?
	From when you get because sometimes they go around like the areola or the armpit.
	Yeah.
	And obviously the biggest one when it comes to plastic surgery is labia plasty.
	Not disavow.
	How would you know if a girl got a labia?
	Oh, I don't know, but it'd be like I'd rather she didn't.
	I've known girls that I've dated and they're like really insecure about it.
	And I try to like be like, no, it's dope.
	Don't do it.
	Like.
	But what was wrong with it?
	What did they think was wrong?
	Well, they thought perhaps there's things that they saw.
	Like in porn, for example, oh, these girls have these perfect little slit pussies or whatever.
	Was it like hanging out?
	Yeah, like hanging down or whatever.
	And as the leading, I'm on the forefront of this movement.
	Big labia matter, Nick, if you can pull it up.
	Thank you.
	Big labia matter, BLM, grassroots movement.
	I'm a trailblazer when it comes to this.
	I don't think women should be shamed if they got large labia.
	It's unfortunate.
	You hear in casual conversations people throwing out these hurtful terms like Arby's, beef curtains, wizard sleeve.
	I've never heard roast beef.
	Roast beef.
	Roast beef.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	That's very upsetting to me.
	It's very upsetting to me.
	A lot of guys like a roast beef sandwich.
	I do.
	I'm a fan.
	I love what weekend.
	I'm a fan.
	And it hurts me that in the sense.
	Look, I don't think men should be shamed for their genitalia.
	I don't think women should be shamed for their genitalia.
	It's a sad state of affairs that people are made to feel insecure about something that's out of their control.
	That's what body positivity is really about.
	It's about things that are out of your control when it comes to your body.
	And yeah.
	And I'm a fan, so my DMs are open if you're rocking.
	Okay.
	But I agree.
	Don't mutilate your genitals.
	Yeah.
	Don't do it.
	You might lose feeling, too.
	Yeah, you could get botched.
	There's botched, and then you lose something.
	It's worse.
	I agree.
	I am also against sex changes.
	Wow, that came out of.
	That was not the topic we were talking about.
	Oh, mutilating genitals?
	I thought that was the topic.
	No.
	A lot of them do go wrong.
	Like, they haven't perfected those surgeries.
	So a lot of times they do end up with complications.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	All right, cool.
	Any final thought from anybody before we wrap up here?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	My favorite quote, I just want to share it.
	No matter how hard the past, you can always begin again.
	Oh, is that in reference to body count?
	Just in general.
	Like, past doesn't count.
	It's hard.
	The past is so hard.
	Like, if you make mistakes in life, you, you know, make mistakes in relationships or whatever.
	You can always start over and be a new person.
	I love that.
	So, like, but is your kind of argument that past doesn't matter?
	I'm saying that if you want to hit the reset button and you want to start over, you want to be a better person, you can always start today.
	It's kind of like it's never too late to be a better person.
	Yeah, it's never too late.
	I agree with that.
	I agree with that.
	I agree that too.
	Okay.
	Thanks, Violet.
	I am actually starting a new beginning myself.
	I am beginning a new journey all by myself.
	And you should join me on Violet Brand Danny.
	OnlyFans, Instagram.
	Violet Brand Danny.
	Thank you very much.
	Don't do it.
	Don't buy the OnlyFans.
	Also, follow me on Instagram at the Sunset Realtor.
	Slave.
	Anybody else?
	Anybody else?
	Okay.
	Wait, how do you feel about people shutting themselves out?
	Like, if you want, you told me that.
	No, I'm just saying.
	Are we planning to?
	I'm about to, I'm wrapping up here, but anybody?
	Final thought?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, let's wrap.
	I'm tired.
	I'm sorry.
	All right.
	Guys, oh, Twitch really quick.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Is there anything we're forgetting, Nick, or I think we hit everything?
	I believe so too.
	Okay, guys.
	Last call, please hit the like button on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been, oh, I need to shout them out.
	Oh, Shadow, thank you for the Prime.
	Raven, thank for the Prime.
	MK, thing for the Prime.
	I think I got these.
	Life.
	Let me read this.
	Or Violet, can you read this?
	Let's get a social awareness checkup from the ladies.
	How we truly feeling about the show tonight.
	No holding back.
	Can't grow from things if there's no true thought back.
	Okay, really quick, I guess.
	Reflect.
	Go ahead.
	Really good show tonight, y'all.
	What do I think about the show?
	I think it went well.
	I enjoyed meeting all of you guys.
	And I think the host was a little tense at moments, but he's stressed.
	I enjoyed it.
	Yeah, I also really enjoyed it.
	I think I had like anxiety because I was like, oh my God, this is going to be on the internet forever.
	But it wasn't too bad.
	Yeah.
	Well, there was definitely a lot of eye-opening conversations.
	I like getting a different perspective from everyone.
	And it's very interesting to see how other people view an opinion on life.
	So it was a good experience overall.
	Yeah, I had no idea what I was doing when I walked into this.
	I'm going to be honest.
	Never watched the podcast or anything.
	She got picked up IV.
	But yeah, I had fun.
	So yeah.
	I think I could use this podcast as a stepping stone to overcoming the anxiety because I did volunteer to be here.
	I did make an Instagram account just to DM Brian to be on this show.
	And I think I'm proud of being here.
	What is it?
	Iron sharpens iron?
	Iron sharpens iron.
	That's it.
	What?
	Diamonds are made in the rough.
	I don't know.
	She was trying to be inspirational.
	We're proud of you.
	Thank you.
	Very proud.
	Oh, shit.
	I just realized people in the chat are saying we just with the rush before the show because we were dealing with all the flakes and stuff and trying to find replacements.
	We forgot.
	Once the show ends, guys, I'll add the Instagrams to the description.
	It just slipped my mind.
	We forgot to do it.
	We'll add it after the show.
	Mary, final thing or whatever.
	Yeah.
	So since this is the, what, fourth time I've been on this show, I wanted to say this is one of the best episodes that I've been on.
	Welcome.
	And it turned into a weirdly wholesome conversation between all of us, which I didn't expect.
	In certain moments, somehow.
	Yes, absolutely.
	It was.
	That's not normal for this podcast.
	It was nice to kind of listen and hear what other people have to say.
	I'm going to be on in the future, maybe the near future.
	You can follow my Instagram and Twitter, MaryArchived, and also subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube if you want to see more of me.
	Woo.
	Same shit, different day.
	I'm just kidding.
	It was a good show.
	It was a good show.
	I feel like I wasn't bored.
	Shout out, Chelsea, because we just picked her up off the street.
	The meme stream.
	You agree, right?
	This is like a better episode than most.
	Yeah.
	I feel like for you, I feel like you agreed with more things than you usually do.
	Or it was a little more wholesome, yeah, like you said.
	Let me just get this from Fally.
	East Coast here, so it probably won't matter.
	Girl in the white next to Mary, do you like Starbucks?
	I'll bet I could pumpkin spice up your life.
	Okay.
	What does that really mean?
	She's shooting a shot.
	It's cuffing season, baby.
	It is cuffing season.
	What do you think about it?
	No, I think I need to work on myself first of all.
	You're literally, you look like a princess.
	Like, you're going to be.
	No, a great place.
	I mean, you guys are all beautiful too.
	So follow you on Instagram too.
	We're going to have a whole fodding session, though.
	It's like blank.
	Like I said, I made this account just to DM whatever or something.
	Yeah.
	Okay, guys.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please.
	On your way out, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	07's in the chat.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who so graciously super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Your patronage is very much appreciated.
	Thank you to the panel.
	Appreciate you guys.
	Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	We've got a really good show planned.
	We have some big guests coming Tuesday, 5 p.m.
	So be sure to tune in.
	Mary will be back.
	So tune in for that and some other really big guests.
	It's going to be Tuesday's show is going to be.
	It might be one of our super panels, like one of those shows that is just.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	You never know.
	Anyways, guys, 07's in the chat.
	We will see you next time.
	Good night, guys.

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