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Sept. 4, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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She Is "Single" But STILL Hooks Up With Her TOXIC Ex?! | Dating Talk #96

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	Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast.
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	We are coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California every Sunday and Tuesday, now at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	I am your host, Brian Atlas.
	I'm joined by my co-host, Sidney Watson.
	Name change again.
	It was Ashley St. Clair.
	Used to be Kiki.
	Now it's Dr. Sidney Watson, Dr. Sidney Watson.
	She's a bit shy.
	Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins.
	My sincere apologies that we are about 30 minutes late here.
	We had four no-shows.
	Not even flakes, just didn't let us know they weren't coming.
	I confirmed with them the night before.
	So sorry about that.
	Four no-shows, super rude.
	Like if they could have told us, they wouldn't have been able to make it, but it is what it is.
	And we tried to go to the streets.
	Nikki and Maddie went down to the streets.
	Nikki and Maddie, did I?
	Nikki?
	Oh, sorry, Nick.
	Do you like that nickname, Nick?
	You want to be Nikki?
	I'll pass it.
	Nikki.
	Okay.
	Nick and Maddie, excuse me, went down to the mean streets of Santa Barbara.
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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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	Hi, I'm Ali Boba.
	I am 26 years old and I'm from Los Angeles, California.
	You guys speaking to the microphone?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	I'm Ali Boba.
	I'm 26 years old and I'm from Los Angeles, California.
	And I am currently a streamer.
	I stream games and just chill in.
	Okay.
	On Twitch, Kick, YouTube.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I am Elizabeth Wynne.
	How was your last time?
	I am 23 from Los Angeles, California.
	I'm not last time, but.
	Oh, wait, I'm 24.
	My birthday was last week.
	My birthday was last week.
	Yes.
	It's all downhill after 24.
	Was?
	Yeah.
	Why do you say that?
	You're excited.
	You can confirm, right?
	It's all downhill after 24.
	Yeah.
	24 is the just.
	Your back starts to hurt.
	Back hurts, knees hurt.
	I'm old.
	Ovaries hurt.
	You're not an old lady.
	What do you mean?
	I'm not sure.
	Wait, your ovaries hurt?
	Yes.
	My ovaries and gonads are hurting.
	Is that what they're called?
	Go ahead.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm a model actress.
	Yep.
	How was your last time?
	Don't you guys remember?
	Well, not last time, like two months ago or something.
	Yeah, a while ago.
	But you were on before.
	Anyone remembered me, though?
	You were on before.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, don't undersell yourself.
	You also.
	What?
	I also run a business.
	Family business.
	What about the ice skating?
	Don't forget the ice skating.
	Yeah.
	I forget.
	Olympics?
	Was there a one-time shovel gold medalist?
	What?
	Olympic?
	It's like throughout the U.S. Yo, FTG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
	That triggers.
	Hold on.
	Boom.
	Fireworks.
	Yeet.
	Thank you, FDG.
	Appreciate it.
	So you were nationals?
	Yes, it's like internationally.
	I represent the USA.
	Okay.
	And I did Youth Olympics.
	I didn't do actual Olympics, but Youth Olympics.
	Got it.
	Very cool.
	And you said you, if I recall from last show, you own supermarket businesses in various South East Asian countries.
	Is that about right?
	Yes.
	Family business.
	Yes.
	Is it money laundering?
	What?
	Huh?
	No.
	Huh?
	What?
	Okay, okay, okay.
	What are you trying to make me say?
	No, I don't know.
	I'm just asking.
	I'm just asking.
	Because a lot of people in the chat were like, what's going on here?
	I read everything.
	I'm like, they don't trust me.
	That's your problem.
	Like, I know myself.
	I stand for who I am.
	I also was Maxa Magazine cover winner, cover model.
	Rock and roll.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Amar.
	I'm 22 years old.
	I'm a content creator from Los Angeles, California.
	What kind of content do you make?
	I do YouTube.
	And I do brand.
	I do a lot of things.
	Like, I'm just, I do a lot of things.
	So on YouTube?
	I do bikini hauls.
	I do like fashion.
	I love fashion.
	Because if you just say you do YouTube, you could ostensibly do like play Minecraft video games, you know?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	I do bikini hauls.
	I do like fashion hauls.
	I love that.
	Got it.
	I'm working.
	Hold on.
	Let's allow Dr. Sidney Watson to weigh in here.
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	All right.
	What do you mean?
	I'm clicking on it.
	I'm not coming up.
	Jesus.
	There's always something weird.
	I'm trying to figure out why that might be.
	Morgan, why don't you introduce yourself?
	Hey, I'm Morgan.
	I'm 24.
	Also just turned 24 last week.
	So maybe we're BD twins.
	And as my best friend now calls me old, so that's funny.
	But I am a turning point USA contributor, and I do social media and content full-time.
	Social media stuff.
	Sorry, age again?
	24.
	24, okay.
	Madison, go ahead.
	My name is Madison.
	I am 18 years old.
	I do the whatever podcast.
	I'm a host at a bar as well as a student at Santa Rosa City College studying accounting.
	Okay, welcome.
	Sorry, guys, we're having an issue with our stream yard.
	I don't know why it's not working.
	No, that's not the issue.
	I'm trying to.
	Sorry, guys.
	Hold on one sec while I'm trying to troubleshoot this right now.
	Madison, why don't you tell us about your situation with your dad from last show while I'm trying to figure this out?
	Yeah, so basically, after the show went out, we kind of took a moment to kind of re-watch it and everything.
	We didn't really appreciate kind of the things that each of us shared.
	So we're not really on talking terms anymore.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Yikes.
	But if you click on it again, I was on the show.
	Huh?
	What if you click on live?
	Nope.
	The next one?
	No?
	Don't do that.
	Okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	Yeah.
	It's been a shit show today.
	Y'all messed it up for me.
	You ruined my relationship with my father.
	Wow.
	What do you say?
	Who was this?
	How long ago?
	Last week.
	What did he say?
	Last week.
	We had my dad on the show.
	He was on the show.
	Oh, my God.
	Yo, thank you, FTG, for that.
	That's fireworks again.
	Also, a fit check, so I'm going to go behind the scenes really quick, try to get that fixed.
	And so, Madison, if you want to lead there.
	Ready?
	If everyone just wants to scoot out and stand up for a sec, fit check.
	Is this a new thing?
	Is this a new thing?
	didn't do this last time if you'd like to explain your outfit please do so Like in the mic, like this.
	Honestly, I think the shoes make the fit, so show us the shoes.
	Gotta show the shoes.
	Gotta show the shoes.
	I like that.
	I'm just not cozy vibes today.
	This is really nice.
	Well, my fit.
	Your vlogs, Madison.
	You got your vlogs.
	Do you see my fit?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	My fit was inspired by you guys.
	You guys wanted this top?
	I saw some people mentioned it.
	This one.
	Is it a dress?
	It's a dress.
	Are you cute?
	All right.
	Fixed.
	Oh.
	If you.
	My fit is just from White Fox and Ebercramie jeans.
	And then they said comfy shoes, so hulkas.
	I love them.
	They're like the best.
	They're like so cute.
	Bro, your titties are about to pop out.
	No, they won't.
	I promise.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	I was like, oh, fuck, we're going to get.
	TOS, you monitor.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	So I got Streamlabs working.
	Let me just, you know, thank you, Eric, for becoming a member.
	Thank you.
	Oh, fuck.
	I hot.
	Shit.
	I lost one.
	David Carter, thank you for becoming a member.
	Sorry, I unstarred one of the memberships.
	It was like from New York somebody.
	I apologize.
	Mark C. Ferg, thank you for being a member for three months.
	Keep up amazing work, bro.
	I love the show.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Did we pull this one up?
	I think we did.
	Thank you, Keenan.
	All right.
	Okay, so we're going to go around the table once more.
	So what is your current relationship status?
	Are you single?
	Are you talking stage?
	Situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And also, what's your longest relationship going?
	I'm currently single, and it's by choice.
	A lot of reasons for that, but mainly just because I'm focusing on myself and like career stuff right now.
	Also, to the dating pool is like terrible.
	You live in LA, right?
	Yeah.
	Born and raised too, so it's rough.
	Yeah.
	And I've been in a relationship before, but I was actually younger.
	It was from 18 to 21.
	He actually ended up cheating on me.
	So.
	Good times.
	Great times.
	And that was actually my last real serious relationship.
	Did you cheat on him too?
	I didn't.
	I should have.
	No.
	Shut back.
	Yeah, I was.
	I was.
	I did.
	And you know what?
	Like, everything that happened, it was like whatever, you know, but I feel like sometimes breakups just like, you know, they kind of make you.
	Everything happens for a reason.
	Yeah.
	And if he was just not meant to be, exactly how it goes.
	Everything happens for a reason.
	That's what I say.
	Did they break up on you?
	Okay, so everything happens for a reason, right?
	Yes.
	Have you heard of the brain-eating amoeba called Nigleria Falaury?
	No, I have.
	So basically, this is why you got to be very careful in like hot springs or still water.
	So it's not a risk in ocean water.
	But if you're ever in like a lake, you don't want to dunk your head under the water, especially in the hot spring, because what they do is this brain-eating amoeba travels up your nose, dating podcast, by the way, travels up your nose, and it's like the death rate is 99%.
	What?
	And you're dead within like five days.
	Yeah.
	Ooh, that's a good idea.
	Nigleria falauri, I think I'm pronouncing it right.
	So, but you could have a bad thing.
	Does everything happen for a reason?
	Like the brain-eating amoeba son?
	And then donated your organs and saved someone's life.
	Yes.
	I don't know about.
	But what were you talking about?
	Like, everything happens for a reason.
	was that like a category of that though well getting okay I got the brain-eating amoeba Everything happens for a while.
	I think more of an example would be like a death of like your mom or something like that.
	Maybe that would be a better example.
	That's still pretty bad.
	That's true, pretty bad.
	But you would have to learn how to become stronger.
	My entire family got wiped out in the meteor strike.
	Everything happens for a reason.
	I mean, I'll repeat that.
	It doesn't work.
	It is true.
	Wait, so you were in this relationship for three years from like 18 to 21.
	Okay.
	Then he cheated on you and then you swore off men.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you've just been.
	You know what's funny, though?
	I didn't really tell you the full story.
	Oh.
	He actually ended up being gay.
	What?
	You turned him.
	What?
	I swear.
	You turned him?
	I think I turned him.
	I think I did.
	Wait, how did, did you, so in the three years you were dating him, Eden?
	So.
	Were there hints?
	Well, we were like really traditional old school, right?
	So like we, I'm going to be honest, we weren't intimate until I turned 18.
	So like it was like, you know, and like.
	Wait, hold on.
	So you were dating him before you were?
	I was 17 when he started courting me.
	How old was he?
	He was also 25 years old.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Let's when you were 17?
	Yes.
	That's a guy.
	He was 25 and 19 and I was 17.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	What?
	Wait, did he cheat on you with a guy or with a girl?
	With a well, I don't know the terminology for it, but it was like a guy turning into a girl.
	Oh, it's a guy.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Wait.
	Wow.
	Wait, wait.
	He cheat on a trans?
	Hold on.
	Not only.
	Wait, oh, he cheated with a trans.
	He's not trans.
	He's not, but I'm not.
	Wait, can you just scoot the mic that way just to tap?
	Yes.
	Okay, so cheated on you with a transgender woman.
	Yes.
	Or transgender man.
	So a man that's actually turning into a woman.
	Yes, a trans woman.
	So used to be a man.
	Yes.
	Became.
	So pretty much she had the boobs, but still had the thingy down there.
	Had the pee.
	He had the pee-pee still.
	So does that make you gay?
	That's gay.
	Right?
	I think so.
	Yeah, I would say that.
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	He was getting banged.
	100%.
	I don't know.
	I think that's neighborhood.
	What I was about to say is, I think if you're a dude and you're sucking dick, that's kind of gay.
	I'm just going to say, I'm saying it.
	I think that's Wouldn't that be gay?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Is that not?
	I just filmed a video on this last week.
	And I asked like 200 college kids, is it gay to date a trans man?
	Like if a woman's dating a trans man, it's funny.
	It's funny.
	Some people just don't think it's gay, which it's gay.
	Yeah.
	I think so.
	That's interesting.
	So you never dated ever since?
	I dated some, like, I had situationships.
	We'll call them.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Multiple situationships.
	One year long situationship.
	One year long.
	Oh, wow.
	And not a relationship.
	Commitment issues.
	I see.
	He had commitment issues.
	And here's the thing I learned: when a guy says he's not ready for a relationship, he's probably not ready for one just with you.
	This is why I'm talking to what guys have a client.
	That was my favorite.
	This is why I say, like, if you're going to introduce me into a situationship, best believe I don't want you.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm like, that's a huge turn off.
	Sorry.
	If it's a situationship, I'd rather just be single.
	You know what I mean?
	I want a guy who actually knows what he wants and not a situationship.
	He's just going to play.
	So during this situationship, were you seeing other guys or were you loyal to him?
	I was 100% loyal.
	Was he seeing other girls?
	I honestly think so because when I ended things, he popped out with a relationship three weeks later.
	Wait, he what?
	He popped out with a new relationship three weeks later.
	But did he call it a relationship?
	New situationship.
	Hosted her, flies her out.
	And after he told me I lived far away when I was he lived in East LA, I lived in the Valley.
	Like, sure, that's long distance in LA terms, but it's not.
	How long is that?
	How much of a drive?
	Like an hour.
	Whoa.
	That's justified.
	That's legit.
	That is not long distance.
	In LA terms, it is.
	That's not long distance.
	That's a medium.
	That is not long distance.
	I've done multiple hits long distance.
	Yeah.
	No.
	That's not long distance.
	If I have to drive more than 20 minutes.
	That's called long distance.
	No.
	No.
	I wouldn't even drive.
	She has to just come to me.
	What?
	Yeah.
	If you're in a relationship, driving an hour is nothing.
	That's not that bad.
	That's nothing.
	You want to drive to see her?
	I think, okay, like, here's the thing: when it comes to love and relationships, a lot of people think it's about shared values, loyalty.
	No.
	It is.
	No, it is.
	What do you mean?
	Let me finish my point.
	It's about convenience.
	If you're living close.
	If you're close, if you live five minutes from the person, that's not what you're doing.
	It makes it easier.
	It makes it easier to do that.
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, okay, sure, it makes it easier, but that doesn't mean long distance doesn't work out.
	You can know somebody multi-states away.
	And I think it is honestly dependent on the man.
	So like you said, you're in a situationship and then he came into a relationship later.
	If a guy actually wants to date you, he will date you.
	If he doesn't want to date you, he'll say, well, I'm not ready for a relationship.
	And that's your sign to go.
	Yes.
	If they're not ready, just leave.
	I think convenience is underrated when it comes to relationships.
	Like, think about it, right?
	It's not about convenience, though.
	Long term relationships.
	Aren't you trying to find true love?
	But long-distance relationships are hard.
	I've been in three.
	They're tough.
	They're hard.
	That's an L.
	But if you're passionate about each other, it shouldn't.
	Like, the distance shouldn't matter, is what I believe.
	That's true.
	It should not matter.
	That's the thing.
	For me, it's like long distance is not a thing.
	Because it just depends on the person because I'm very touchy.
	Like, I want when I feel like I'm having a mental breakdown, like, I want somebody to be there for me.
	You know, I don't want you to call me, oh, you can't even, like, you know, come and hug me or something like that.
	What?
	I think it just comes down to prioritizing each other.
	Like, if he can prioritize you and you prioritize him, like, it does work.
	But in long distance, like, it's hard.
	You know, like, yeah.
	It's just different.
	So, how frequently are you having mental breakdowns?
	Not frequently.
	I mean, it just.
	She just wants someone to comfort her.
	Yeah, because, I mean, it depends.
	I'm very physically.
	Are you a once-a-week mental breakdown type of chick?
	It depends.
	I mean, I'm in my 20s.
	Come on.
	Like, this is a lot.
	So, wait, you're in a lot of time.
	Oh, you have a lot.
	I'm 22.
	So, like.
	So, is it better now or worse, your mental breakdown frequency?
	I think it's better because I've had things that, you know, I go to the gym, like, I have a therapist that helps me out.
	Oh, I see.
	That helped me a lot.
	Who here is in therapy, really?
	Show of hands.
	Anybody in therapy?
	I'm anti-therapy.
	I'm strong.
	I'm strong to therapy.
	I just like to like.
	I'm very strong.
	My debate is like tough.
	My therapy's the jar.
	Okay.
	No, honestly, I feel like we kind of underestimate people having mental illnesses.
	Oh, hold on just a sec.
	Brandon Meltz donated $99.
	I'm donating specifically to say hi to Madison.
	Hi, Madison.
	And also, hi, Brian.
	Yo, what's up, Brandon?
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
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	Oh, and hi, Nick.
	Hi, everyone.
	Nick, say hi to Brandon.
	What up, Brandon?
	Yo, thank you, Brandon.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	Welcome, welcome.
	So you were saying something a lot of people.
	They might look like they're fine because you can't tell.
	Hold on just a second.
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	Elizabeth, you were saying.
	Are we going to get interrupted again?
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying, I just feel like we just kind of underestimate people.
	They look like they're really, they look perfectly fine, but inside they're struggling mentally.
	I think now that we prioritize mental health more, like it's talking about more, but the thing is, so I said I'm anti-therapy, which, you know, some, it works for some people, but also largely a lot of therapists are prescribing women antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications.
	And then, I mean, now more than ever, women are hooked on pharma to self-medicating those types of things.
	Or you have ADHD, you're now on antidepressants, you're on anti-anxiety medication, you're on Adderall, you're on Vibance, whatever.
	And your entire hormonal, your body just gets completely jacked up.
	And I feel like, you know, as much as we talk about mental health and we should talk about it because it's really important.
	But I also think that therapists kind of use it as a way just to make money.
	Well, I just, my therapist is different from my psychiatrist.
	Psychiatrist prescribes you drugs.
	Therapy just to talk to somebody and like have somebody like there to tell you, you know what?
	I see a cycle that you're doing or like, hey, like you're kind of dating somebody like your dad's traits.
	You know, I really love talking to someone like that that actually has experience or years of experience that has seen people that had the same stuff as me.
	You know, just talking to somebody like kind of helps me a lot to just like, oh, wow, I didn't, you know, realize this stuff about myself.
	Wait, you said you would talk to your therapist about guys, guys you're dating, and she, is your therapist a male or female?
	Female.
	And she'd say something about your dad's traits.
	Just like, for example, like, well, my dad's an alcoholic, and I, you know, I don't want to date somebody like that.
	I don't want to date somebody that's a therapist to tell you that, though?
	No, not just in general.
	It seems like kind of cool.
	I think she just wants someone to guide her.
	Yeah, right?
	I think somebody that like someone.
	You need a strong masculine boyfriend.
	You need a strong guy.
	I know.
	She needs a strong guy, guys.
	I do, actually.
	I do.
	I actually think it's a red flag to be dating a girl who's in therapy.
	No feminist.
	Or maybe she just needs to heal herself.
	Yeah, this thing is like, that's not heal yourself.
	Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
	I'm healing myself from things that I've had in my childhood.
	Like, you know, like, I really like talking about it and telling me, you know, she's kind of helping me.
	She has like, you know, 10 years of experience, so she can tell me, like, these are ways that you could actually cope with that.
	Or try this, you know, try to go to the gym and stuff like that.
	I want somebody that has experience, you know, as well as obviously I'm looking for a good guy, you know, but that comes with like fixing myself from the inside first and bettering myself.
	Wait, question.
	Is she a feminist?
	You think?
	Me?
	No, no, no.
	Well, I guess you, but like, is your therapist a feminist, you think?
	You know what?
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	Because she just, I mean, actually, I've only gone once with her because I changed my therapist.
	Because the other one I've changed?
	Therapist.
	Yeah, because I didn't like the other one.
	Like, she wasn't really like telling me, like, hey, I want somebody be straight up with me.
	You know, and be like, hey, this is what you're doing.
	You know, like, you're doing this and that.
	Hey, kind of like this.
	Straightforward.
	So you want accountability.
	I do want to cut out it, but I want something that I could tell, like, you know, I have trust issues.
	So, like, I want someone that I could not, you know, someone professional that won't say my secrets that I could actually talk to, you know?
	It's very different talking to like, you know, a friend or something like that, like a boyfriend, because you never know where you're going to break up with them.
	And then they're just going to leave with all your, you know, stuff.
	You never know what happens.
	And with a therapist, you can never like break up with them and they'll tell your secrets and stuff like that.
	You know, that kind of thing.
	Hopefully, that's the go.
	Yeah.
	Hopefully they can.
	I mean, if I let you, I can't do that.
	I mean, yeah, therapy is great if you just like want to vent to somebody.
	And then I feel like she just needed someone.
	A therapist, though, will tell you kind of what you want to hear.
	And like, yeah, sure, it can work through things.
	But I mean, our generation, Gen Z, mental health-wise, is down the toilet.
	Oh, yeah.
	Ever since 2019.
	But then the thing is, I think more than ever, our society lacks God.
	I'm a believer and I'm a Christian.
	And I think a lot of people need to come back to Christ, honestly, because I mean, in the church, you have accountability.
	You can talk to your pastoral team.
	You can have almost like counseling through the church to where you're rooted in biblical truth.
	So, I mean, I don't go to therapy, but I have biblical mentors to where then, you know, they can help push you along the way.
	And then it's rooted in scripture and rooted in truth instead of just, you know, hey, because I used to go to therapy when I was younger, when I was like seventh grade, eighth grade, high school.
	And it's like, you know, hey, journal this and like, tell me how you feel.
	But I think a lot of things, like when you pray about it, when you talk to God about it and you read your Bible, you finally, you have that peacefulness and knowing that your anxieties and your troubles, like God's got it.
	And, you know, you just have to like talk to them about it and work through those things, you know?
	So you said you kind of talked to your therapist about some like relationship type stuff.
	What were what was the guidance that she gave you on relation, like dating a particular guy?
	Yeah, because basically I'm in an on and off relationship for two years, but it's like a very like emotional abusive relationship.
	Oh no.
	Red flag, red flag, yeah.
	Let's tell us before you get into that story.
	Wait, Elizabeth, did you tell us?
	Oh, yeah, no, no.
	Elizabeth, you tell us your relationship situation.
	You tell us yours.
	Then we'll get into it.
	Go ahead, Elizabeth.
	Oh, are we going to cut her off or finish?
	No, no, no, go ahead.
	Fine.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I've been single for 24 years, but I'm talking to someone in.
	I mean, hopefully you were single from like at least the first 14, 15, you know?
	Yeah, as I never had a boyfriend.
	Because I mean, wouldn't you?
	That way.
	And because I didn't know that.
	And you would have been dating at like one year old, you know?
	So you've been single for 24 years.
	Were you really gonna be dating at like three years old?
	Like no, but then as in I wasn't really seeking, I wasn't seeking anybody.
	Like whoever gave me attention, I didn't really care.
	Like that.
	Okay, for sure.
	Yeah, because like I was focusing on my career.
	You know what I mean?
	Right.
	Yeah, so I'm talking to Celia.
	Like two years old, though.
	And I'm tape.
	Like, you're trying to like, come on, Ryan.
	Come on.
	Who's dating at like three years old?
	You can't even talk, right?
	Or wait, can you talk about it?
	Is that like three years old?
	Like a kindergarten crush.
	Hey, I'm just saying.
	I'm just roasting you.
	I'm roasting you.
	Go ahead.
	Like, do you got her?
	Okay, so.
	Yeah, so I'm talking to someone.
	I have someone.
	You got a situation.
	Okay.
	So you're single?
	No.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, you're in a relationship?
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	How long have you been talking about that?
	And I want to respond.
	I really respect him, so I don't.
	Sure.
	How long have you been because last time you were on, I think you were single?
	Actually, I could be wrong, but I think he found me from the last podcast.
	Oh, have you met in person?
	I haven't met him in person yet.
	Wait, you're.
	Oh, my God.
	I haven't met him in person yet.
	You're dating a guy, but you haven't been in person.
	Wait, how long have you been talking about this?
	I respect him enough to talk on the phone?
	We've chatted, we messaged, we talked.
	So that's all.
	Like FaceTime.
	You haven't?
	Bro, what?
	I'm very picky with my guys.
	How long have you been talking to him?
	I was going to say, how long?
	When I find someone, best believe that he has checked all my boxes because I have high standards.
	As in, when I say high standards, listen, why are you giving me that face?
	She hasn't talked to the guy on the phone even, and she's in a relationship with the dude.
	Guys, no, it's because I respect.
	You see what I mean?
	Like, I'm not the type to go looking.
	I don't want to look.
	But you said you're in a relationship with him.
	Yes.
	I call it that because we both trust it.
	You haven't talked to him.
	You haven't even told me.
	I've all messaged.
	You messaged him?
	Have you been messaging him?
	I said since the last.
	Why are you giving me that face?
	First off.
	Red flag.
	Let her answer my question.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	How long have you been messaging him?
	I said since the last podcast, which is like a couple months ago.
	He's a viewer of mine.
	He is a.
	Wait, is it Markavius?
	No.
	Markuvius, the guy who's dropping.
	Has he sent you photos of himself so like you know what he looks like?
	Is it through Instagram?
	He's pretty big on TikTok.
	Oh, okay.
	So you know that.
	I know him.
	I know his actual.
	Okay, so you know he's real.
	Yes, and also I found out that we have like a mutual friend, so it's kind of.
	But how long have you gone to months though without like a phone call or a FaceTime, but still like, you know, trusting him with that?
	Like through, I guess we communicate through stories.
	You know what I mean?
	Like that way.
	Through stories.
	Or like IGs.
	No, we also messaged.
	Do you send Instagram stories?
	Yes, Instagram.
	So I was like, we still were.
	Is he foreign?
	Is that why?
	Does he not live in the U.S.?
	He doesn't live in the U.S.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's really focusing on his career as well, which is respect because I want to focus on mine.
	You see what I mean?
	It's either be single and focus or like, because that's all I really want to focus on.
	Sounds like you're in a situation ship, but you just said you're not down for a situation ship.
	But I don't call this a situationship.
	What do you call it?
	What do you call it?
	You're in a talking stage?
	What do you call it?
	You said you're in a relationship.
	I call him my guy.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Wait, so he asks you out.
	Your boyfriend, who you've never even spoken to.
	You've never met in person.
	The thing is, this, it's because, like, I'm not the one to look around.
	Like, I don't really care.
	Hold on.
	What does looking around have to do with you having a phone call with your boyfriend?
	Like, honestly, what if I say, like, I'm not even.
	Are you okay, Elizabeth?
	Are you okay?
	What?
	Like, I'm not, like, ready to date yet because I'm still focusing on my career.
	You see what I mean?
	Didn't I tell you this?
	How to explain this?
	This is tough.
	Like, okay, I think I sort of understand.
	Is this a change of him?
	Is this?
	So you don't have time to call that.
	You don't have time to call him or actually meet him, go on a date with him, but you are in a.
	I sort of see.
	You're in a boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Yeah, like, I guess you can say talking stage.
	Wait, you don't have to stop.
	Yeah, we're both so busy because we're both working on ourselves.
	You see what I mean?
	So he doesn't do that.
	You're in a relationship.
	Is he a fuckboy?
	Is he a TikTok?
	Fuckboy?
	I thought he was, but apparently he's not.
	Where is he?
	Is he in the States?
	Is he in the U.S.?
	No, he's not in the States.
	Where's he at?
	Shoot, should I expose him?
	Yeah, well, if you say a country, it's not going to.
	Continent.
	Germany.
	What the fuck?
	Bro, Elizabeth.
	So we got it.
	Do you feel like you're wasting time ever?
	Like, do you actually see it being a relationship eventually?
	Because we're talking about distance.
	Like, does that.
	Where's the fucking asteroid?
	No, I don't think it's wasting time.
	Does he take care of you like a man should, like, in a relationship would?
	Like, I see all the qualities.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You know what I mean?
	It's rare when you see someone with good qualities.
	It's super rare nowadays.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Did you see that on his when he was doing his TikTok dances?
	Is that what he's doing?
	No, it's not that.
	What's he do on TikTok?
	You can be vague.
	Everything.
	What kind of content?
	Does he do TikTok dances?
	Is he one of those?
	Hold on, one sec.
	I mean, there's no evidence that that's actually the...
	Here, send something, send a chat where Elizabeth would be able to confirm, like, if you guys have some inside joke or something that would reveal that this is actually the dude that Elizabeth is dating.
	Wait, hold on.
	He's in Germany?
	It's fucking.
	Wait, in Germany, it's like, what, 3 a.m.?
	3, 4 a.m.
	It's nine hours later.
	We're having donated $100.
	Or genius.
	How can you be in a relationship with someone you've never spoken to, let alone seen?
	Please, Brian, get real.
	Natch on.
	Smiley face.
	Yo, Mr. Ben Having, thank you so much for the Streamlabs tip, man.
	Appreciate it.
	People keep telling me about the real Natchez.
	I gotta check him out.
	I'll take a look at his stuff.
	But word, like, it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
	So he's in Germany.
	What, yes?
	Do you have any plans to visit him?
	Like, be together?
	No, definitely.
	So you wouldn't consider yourself single right now?
	No.
	Because I respect him, because I don't want to be talking to anybody else.
	Like, I don't have interest with anybody else.
	Because I see.
	Is that true?
	Hold on.
	Are your parents.
	Because last time you were on the show, both your parents, your mom and dad, were watching the stream.
	Yes.
	Did they drive you today?
	Yeah.
	Are they watching in the car right now?
	I have no idea.
	They're probably watching.
	I have no idea.
	Okay, so you have to be careful.
	Okay, all right.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah.
	Tell them to stop watching so we can get into the nitty-gritty.
	Mommy, can you leave?
	Huh?
	Mom, can you leave right now?
	Thank you.
	What about dad?
	What about dad?
	What about what?
	Can you say in Vietnamese?
	Just in case, you know.
	I don't speak much Vietnamese.
	You don't?
	Sadly.
	Wow.
	Haram.
	Okay.
	So this whole situation is very confusing.
	So is he?
	You have to understand.
	I do want to understand, though.
	So he does TikTok dances?
	No, it's not TikTok.
	And he's in Germany.
	How many followers does he have on TikTok?
	Quite a bit.
	How many?
	I think reaching 12 million.
	Oh, okay.
	12 million?
	And he's, how many on Instagram?
	How many followers on Instagram?
	Like 1.5 million.
	How old is he?
	23.
	Is he attractive?
	Very.
	Okay.
	And he's a nine, ten plus hour flight away from you.
	Listen, he's talking to other women.
	I don't.
	Do you have an issue with that?
	There's no way he's committed to you.
	Talking or not, I don't think so.
	Or like if you.
	You don't think so?
	I'm pretty sure he sees it as more like a friend.
	He's got.
	Because that's what I do too.
	I believe he is.
	He's your boyfriend, but you don't know if he's religious.
	Are you religious?
	I'm religious.
	Remember, I'm Catholic?
	You're Catholic.
	But how.
	You never had the quick convo.
	You know, well, you message back and forth on.
	Yeah, but not that topic.
	Would it bother you if you knew right now he was just like getting down with some Fraulein?
	Do you know what a Fraulein is?
	No.
	What's a Fraulein?
	a young german woman that wouldn't bother me but i don't it wouldn't bother you that your boyfriend I don't think.
	You know what I mean?
	But what if he was?
	But why would you want to think that?
	It's not about whether you want to think it or not.
	trust issues in this in this sense it's not about i mean you you've never met in person You've never even had a phone conversation.
	Yeah.
	He's an attractive guy, young.
	He's got, you said 12 million followers on TikTok, 1.5 million on Instagram.
	There's probably chicks in his, there's probably women in his DMs.
	You're probably just, I mean, I'm just being, don't shoot the messenger.
	You're probably just on the slow burner for him.
	Like slow burner.
	Like at one point he'll meet you and then.
	But he's probably seeing other women.
	I think that's what he thinks I'm doing.
	Like he thinks I'm seeing other guys because there's like a bunch of guys trying to hit on me.
	Oh, he's has he mentioned like, oh, are you.
	He has stress issues because he.
	That's projection.
	Because he's probably fucking other chicks.
	Does that upset you that your boyfriend is fucking other women?
	Why are you saying this into my head when it's not facts?
	Well, I don't.
	I can't say definitively, but like given the information you've provided, again, I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong here, but given what you've told me, I'm strongly leaning towards this guy's fucking.
	Whatever you believe.
	This is what I do.
	Yeah.
	Do you actually, the not a catfish, do you want to issue a breakup right now?
	Because I'm like 97.33% sure he's cheating on you.
	Ah, it doesn't matter.
	Next.
	Whatever podcast, breaking up relationships.
	Next question, Brian.
	Who cares?
	I know.
	I mean, I'm, well, I'm.
	Are you jealous?
	I'm not.
	I'm not jealous.
	Is that why?
	Actually, there was a little, you know, last show, there was a little.
	Brandon Mels donated $99.
	Just talking to at Folkabunch TV.
	Is that who it is?
	No.
	That sounded like a yes.
	The way you said no, it sounded like a yes.
	Hold on.
	Falco Punch.
	Let me look it up.
	Falco Punch.
	See, and I hope you enjoyed talking to him, but like, I don't understand how you can not have a phone call or a FaceTime.
	And, you know, I'm not saying he's catfish.
	He definitely probably is real.
	But if you want to be in a serious relationship with someone, you said you're a Catholic, how can you date someone you don't even know their religion?
	You don't really know where they're at.
	And like, I don't understand that.
	I believe he's first Christian.
	So, like, probably.
	But hold on.
	What do you mean you believe?
	Because he's on articles I read before.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's kind of like you get to know someone through that.
	But I mean, I feel like it's either they're Christian or they're not.
	So what did you specifically read that would make lead you to believe that he might be Christian?
	He has this reminds me of the same morals as me, like throughout his strata and things.
	In the articles you mentioned that were published, in any of those articles does he say anything about his faith or Jesus, or any mentioning any?
	So how do the articles?
	I'm just trying to connect the dots topic, please.
	No, I'm just trying to connect the dots, like, how do?
	Okay um, whatever.
	So okay, what about you?
	Thank you Brian, go ahead.
	It's complicated.
	Your relationship status is complicated.
	Are you still in that situationship that you were?
	Let's just say I'm single.
	Yeah, you're single.
	For how long have you been single?
	For like two months, two months.
	When's the last time you hung out with your on again, off again, two-year situationship, I don't know, like yesterday, I don't know, I'm just kidding.
	I mean, if we want to make this podcast spicy, I can like can what, what?
	I want to adjust your mic a little bit.
	What do you mean?
	Just my mic sometimes, whose face?
	Uh picture Nick Mark wait, what oh?
	I thought you said just my mic.
	It's tilted down a little down it.
	No, it's fine.
	It's fine.
	It looks.
	This looks fine to me.
	Should I put it down?
	I think it's fine.
	I'm Nick is has you in her whole mouth sometimes.
	Sometimes she gets accounting behind it.
	Okay yo, Flan Life.
	Thank you for the uh gifted partnerships.
	Man really appreciate it, thank you.
	Uh yeah no, let's get into it, okay.
	So uh, single two months, you've been single for two months.
	Uh you, but you, the guy who you wait, hold on.
	Okay, you've been single for two months.
	That's a whole story.
	Like it's really long story.
	Well, I'll try to ask questions to make things concise.
	So you previously mentioned that you were dating the guy for about two years.
	Is that correct?
	Okay, but it wasn't ever a relationship.
	Is that it was?
	It was a relationship then.
	I think it was a monogamous.
	It was a monogamous relationship okay, for two years, you said, but you said it was on on and off.
	Again, I think, towards like the end of the two years, it was very like obviously we fought more.
	We didn't really share that much like interest.
	I don't know he has like anger issues, so that kind of like you know, and he has, you know, he's insecure.
	So I think that kind of you know, insecurity opens a lot of doors, you know.
	And obviously, like I was like we're fighting too much.
	I think, like we should just be friends.
	It's just getting you know too much sure, wait.
	So okay, so you been single for two months.
	But my question was, when's the last time that you saw your I suppose ex-boyfriend, was it yesterday.
	He drove me here.
	We drove here together.
	So oh no, what?
	So you're single for two months.
	When's the last time you guys hooked up?
	Was it today?
	I don't remember.
	No, it was yesterday, no long time ago.
	This week you said okay, because you said you've been single for two months.
	Yeah, have you hooked up with your ex-boyfriend in the past two months?
	No, but he drove you here.
	Yeah, because the thing is like, I grew up Christian, I grew up in like in the Christian community and I, my sexuality actually got like suppressed.
	I don't really need sex.
	To be honest, like for me, I'm very like, I don't need it, like I'm more of a, you know, like emotional, you know attachment, more emotional connection with somebody.
	So you guys are just friends right now yeah, hanging out, So you've broken up, but you guys are.
	Do you hang out every day?
	No.
	How frequently do you hang out in a friendly capacity?
	Probably like twice a week.
	Twice a week?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Does he want to get back with you?
	Of course.
	Oh.
	But you don't want to get back with him.
	No, because I think I'm focusing on myself right now.
	I feel like I really want to kind of fix the things that I have.
	You know, like focus on myself, like, you know, insecurities that I have.
	Sorry, hold on just a second.
	Organized religion is all well and good, but it is an echo chamber.
	Just like social media, it confirms individual truths.
	Enabling therapists are a dime a dozen.
	Always ask questions, especially from the people giving you advice.
	Transparency, trust, whatever.
	Buddha Monk, thank you for the tip.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm confused.
	Okay, appreciate the comment, man.
	So, wait, okay.
	You he wants to get back with you.
	You don't want to get back with him.
	Don't you think for the sake of moving on for yourself and him that you probably shouldn't be hanging out with him twice a week?
	It's a whole long story.
	I feel like when you.
	Do you guys live together?
	No.
	We used to live.
	Yeah, we used to live together, but it just got really toxic.
	So we kind of separated and not lived together anymore.
	Did you pull an Amber Heard and take a shit in his bed?
	No, actually.
	I think it's like the opposite.
	He took a shit in the bed?
	I'm just kidding.
	No, no, he didn't.
	But there's like a whole story.
	Like, if you want the juicy story, like, he broke my phone.
	He threw my makeup out the window.
	It's a whole thing.
	Yeah.
	And that's.
	That's toxic.
	Yeah.
	Do you still hang out with him?
	Why would you still hang out with him?
	Because I feel like I understand people that are in toxic relationships because it's an addiction.
	It's an addiction.
	And I feel like it's like a drug.
	I feel like, you know, obviously you relapse.
	I'm the type, like, if you're going to ruin my mental health, just leave, you know?
	Or be violent.
	Wouldn't you want to leave that in the past and like not be around him if he did these things to you?
	And I mean, you're working past those things and working your own life.
	Why would you want to continue to enable him in a sense?
	Because if you're hanging out with him, you're giving him a sense of like, well, maybe I could still be with her and I still have her.
	You know what?
	I did think like that before I was in a relationship like this.
	I was like, why can't people just leave in toxic relationships?
	Why could you just leave, you know, people that hate other people?
	Until you're in one.
	Yeah, until you're in one.
	And it's so hard because you're emotionally attached and you're codependent to that person.
	And it's so different when you're in it because it's like, wow, like, you know, it's like an addiction.
	It's hard.
	It's hard to leave.
	But probably because you haven't met like the right person.
	I feel like if you met someone with better qualities, you could compare and contrast.
	Like, this guy is not good.
	I mean, that's true.
	I don't think that's true.
	I mean, it's like this guy sucks.
	This previous toxic guy sucks.
	Let's have an addiction.
	Let's go to the new one.
	One of the worst things that you can do, and I'm not, I am not, when I say this, I'm not advocating that you be toxic or abusive.
	However, one of the worst things that you can do is bore a woman.
	And I think that a lot of women find it exciting to be involved with these bad.
	That's why even women confess it themselves.
	I'm attracted to bad boys.
	Yep.
	Like, so women are attracted to them because oftentimes they display these dark triad personality traits.
	Not me.
	I think not all women.
	Not all women.
	I'm like, if you're bad, boy, leave.
	But like, a lot of women will say, I like bad boys.
	I'm attracted to jerks, assholes, whatever.
	I think it's like a phase too.
	No, I think it's like a trauma thing.
	I know, like, do you feel like you're trauma-bonded to him?
	Like, you have to be around.
	What is a trauma of him?
	Trauma bond is like, for example, like my parents, like, I think it's what you see as a child, like, how your parents' dynamic is.
	If your parents did have like a toxic environment, stuff like that, you're used to that.
	Like that makes you feel comfortable because your whole life you've been like, you know, kind of like used to parents fight all the time.
	They get, you know, like separated.
	They come back together.
	And as a child, like you see that, that's normalized to you.
	Were your parents divorce?
	I think your psychology's a therapist therapist.
	Did your therapist tell you that?
	Did she tell you to stay in the toxic relationship?
	No, I think I figured it out by myself.
	And, you know, it's true.
	Like, my parents, my dad's an alcoholic.
	My mom is like the opposite.
	Like, she doesn't do anything like that.
	But their dynamic has been for 25 years.
	Like, he tried, my mom tried to help my dad, and he didn't want help.
	He said, you know what?
	I don't want therapy.
	He literally told me, like, I don't want therapy.
	You know, he drinks.
	He's like a teenager.
	He drinks, drink drinks, and then like he feels sorry, blah, blah, and then he's okay and then he drinks again.
	This idea that like what you witnessed as a child with your parents' relationship dynamic means that you are going to be compelled to chase after or engage in similar relationships.
	This is why I'm kind of like psychology is not a science because for example you could have a father who's an alcoholic and that could either lead you in two different paths.
	It could either lead you to not drinking at all because you witnessed it or you too could become an alcoholic.
	So that's why I question like psychology because like you have the same you could take two people with alcoholic fathers and one of them as I just said swears off drinking entirely and the other becomes an alcoholic too.
	So it's like I don't know.
	Yeah like my sister like she's I mean obviously I don't drink at all because of my dad and my sister doesn't drink at all.
	My sister like obviously we're very different.
	Like she's 11 years older than me.
	She didn't actually like she has a healthy relationship and stuff like that.
	Obviously she didn't like end up with an alcoholic.
	You know, she got married.
	Okay, so but so he's kind of thrown your he threw your makeup out the window.
	He broke your phone, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Your ex-boyfriend who drove you here today.
	But you know, like I have my other relationships weren't like that though.
	Like I had healthy relationships.
	How long did those last compared to the two toxic ones?
	Well, like I said before, I was raced Christian, so all my relationship lasts two years.
	Like two years, a year, six months.
	Like I'm very traditional in that way.
	Like I have, you know, my hidden miss.
	Like I'm really in the middle with things.
	Okay.
	I'm like, yeah.
	Is this toxic relationship your longest relationship you've ever had?
	No.
	My first ever relationship was like three years.
	Well, you're 22, right?
	I know.
	It was 15 to like 17.
	I mean, it doesn't count.
	It doesn't count.
	But like, you know, for me, like, I believe like, what's the point of a toxic relationship when the person is just going to weigh you down?
	Like, don't you want someone to kind of uplift you up?
	I think it's a stability.
	Kind of like, for me, I envision your person, right?
	Doing to kind of grow and build your life together with them and not like, should I say, like, hurting you?
	Like, you don't want someone's going to hurt your feelings.
	Because good men are boring to most women.
	I know that's what everyone thinks.
	That's not the goal here, though.
	If there's a good masculine man, I don't think they're poor.
	But if given the choice between a good guy who's financially stable...
	If you want a good, healthy marriage and a husband and a family in the end, you have to kind of know that you don't want the toxic relationship.
	I don't think anyone wants like a toxic relationship.
	Or like you have to know you should leave to the end.
	You know what I mean?
	No one wants to settle down with a toxic man or woman.
	See, I think women just have a problem where they think they can fix and change a guy though.
	Just in general terms.
	There's a guy that comes in who's super toxic, but you're like, no, I can fix him.
	I can change him.
	But in reality, you can't.
	You can't change the guy.
	It's going to come down to the guy's choice, which, I mean, and for your sake, like, I'm sorry that you're dealing with that because that's really difficult.
	Like, us women also have to be strong enough to leave those situations and know what's best for us and for our futures.
	Because if you do want to find, you know, a good guy that's going to support you, gonna have that stability.
	I mean, stability is not gonna come with toxicity.
	And I'm not saying toxic masculinity because I also don't think toxic masculinity exists.
	That's aside from that.
	But there's toxic people.
	And if he has toxic behavior, then that's not healthy for you.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like a lot of just people with toxic behavior that lead into very toxic relationships are just also very immature people that turn it off.
	Yeah, I think very well.
	That's what it is.
	I mean, I'm curious why you broke up with him.
	I mean, typically the best MO after a breakup for the breakup to actually work is you can no longer see that person.
	I was going to ask if just like you hanging out with him still, do you feel like that interferes with your path to, I guess, focusing on yourself?
	Like moving on.
	Yeah.
	But I feel like how I see kind of like an addiction, because I feel like that's what is to me.
	I feel like you slowly kind of like leave it.
	You know, you can't just leave a vape and just culture.
	Yeah, some people can do that, but some people can't.
	They have to be like, okay, I'm not going to vape.
	What?
	Your therapist tells you this.
	No, I think you just.
	I think I just leave.
	Are you saying?
	Hold on, hold on.
	No, hold on, hold on.
	Maybe your mental illness is by him.
	Stop, Are you saying you need to taper off your toxic, abusive ex?
	Are you saying you're trying to taper?
	It's easy.
	I just delete his contact forever.
	I think everybody deals with it.
	It's dreams over, you know?
	I'm out.
	Just delete the contact.
	I do think that a lot of people deal with it differently.
	Like, this is definitely not the first time that I've heard about a situation.
	How did I send the nuke?
	Did I actually send the nuke?
	Yeah, you did.
	And like I said earlier, it's really hard to leave a toxic relationship.
	And a lot of people don't know because they're not in one.
	Yeah.
	And you never know how it feels.
	Exactly.
	Like, how hard it is to actually leave.
	I didn't know.
	Like, before I was like, you know what?
	Because you're kind of like attached, right?
	Yeah.
	You're emotionally attached.
	Of course.
	Like, trauma bonding is like, I feel like it's real and it's hard.
	It's really, really hard.
	It's like, ask a drug addict, like, it's really hard to get off of that.
	Like, how do you do that?
	Wait.
	So, okay, you mentioned that he threw some make out of.
	Oh, you want to know why?
	Well, hold on.
	You said he threw the makeup out the window and he did he break your phone or he just, what did he do to your phone?
	So basically.
	Yeah, so basically, like he got.
	I don't need to know the backstory.
	I'm just asking, like, he did it.
	Are those the only two things he did?
	Or was there more?
	There's other shit?
	Yeah.
	Did he hit you?
	No.
	Okay, so it's just like throwing things, breaking property, but he never laid hands on you.
	I think verbal was like one of the, for me, verbal.
	That's even verbal abuse.
	You know, that's worse than like physical abuse.
	You know, like, I feel like, because it's like, you know, psychology-wise, like, that's harder.
	You know, like, I don't think anybody should go through this.
	And that's why, like, I kind of like talking about it so people know that it's not okay.
	When people insult you with your insecurities, like, if someone like, what's an example of something he would say?
	For example, like no.
	He would attack insecurities of mine that I like told them to protect, you know, like to protect my feelings because I was wantable to him.
	You know, like, for example, like, oh, nobody's going to like you because you do this and this and that.
	Like, things that like, obviously, he knows that I'm insecure about.
	What do you do?
	Like, for example, like.
	You play, you collect Pokemon cards?
	That's cool.
	I don't know, something like that.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't mind that.
	Just saying.
	Just stuff like that.
	Oh, like, oh, I'm going to go and what did he say one time?
	He's like, oh, like, I'm not going to.
	Next girl that I'm going to get, she's going to have a big ass and stuff like that.
	You know, because he knows I'm insecure about my body, you know?
	Like, you know, my whole life, they call me skinny and stuff like that.
	That's like a good man.
	It is bad.
	This is like an enemy.
	He's like an enemy as your guy.
	Yeah, it's like, I don't think that's what I'm saying.
	And nobody should deal with that.
	Like, people insulting you with your insecurities.
	Yeah, he's not.
	He's not.
	He's even to protect.
	You know, that's what a man should do.
	Like, you know, like, be there to like.
	You know, it's a protected and protective.
	Are there any other examples of anything he said that was insensitive or mean?
	Yeah, whenever he doesn't get his way, he's like, slut-ho, like, just like, kind of like insulting me.
	And I'm like, so what makes you so want to hang out with him then?
	I think convenience.
	No, that shouldn't be the answer.
	Oh, like, you know, like convenience just because he's there and you know that he'll answer.
	Yeah.
	Like, do you feel like you're still getting it's almost like negative attention from him then?
	Like, even if he's saying something that you do want to hear, but you know that he's bad.
	It's not even about that.
	It's about like, because when I came to LA, he was the one that was there for me the whole time.
	And nobody, obviously, I didn't know anybody in LA.
	And then that kind of, you know, kind of gives that bond of like, oh, like, he's been there for me this whole time.
	It was.
	So you're dependent on him.
	You moved from here.
	Yeah.
	Where did you move from?
	San Diego is like two hours and a half.
	Okay.
	And you said he drove you here, so two-hour drive from LA.
	Yeah.
	You think he's watching the show right now?
	No.
	You sure about that?
	He's 33.
	Like, who the f?
	Oh, he's 33.
	And he's not 11.
	He's 11 years older than me.
	Well, no, I don't think that's it.
	Yeah.
	No, would you?
	Would you throw me back?
	No.
	I mean, if it's like a fetish and you just don't know this, he kind of just, I guess, picks on you because he's older.
	You think like that?
	I think it's because he's insecure.
	Like a lot of men that, or just women in general, when they feel insecure, I feel like they attack you because, you know, they feel like they're not good enough.
	You know, like maybe he feels like he's 33 and he's not where he wants to be in life.
	And that's why he insults me because he sees that he's insecure.
	Yeah.
	He's an insecure man.
	I mean, like, what he's doing is 100% wrong, but I was almost anticipating this would be like a younger guy.
	Like a 21-year-old.
	Like, it seems like kind of an immature thing.
	But I feel like, okay, well, if he is watching this show, that's going to be an awkward ass fucking two-hour drive back to LA.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	I don't care, to be honest, at this point.
	You guys are.
	I'm about to make a podcast just to say all this stuff.
	Do you eventually want to kind of just cut ties with him?
	Yeah, of course.
	When is that weaning?
	Because right now you're like weaning off, right?
	Yeah.
	Hanging out only twice a week.
	When do you have that?
	I don't want to, I want to stop seeing him now.
	Well, hold on.
	The taper thing.
	What is this?
	Like a methadone clinic?
	You got to fucking, okay, I'm going to go from four days a week to three days a week to two days a week.
	That kind of helps me.
	It does help me.
	It helps you.
	Babe, I just broke up with you, but can you please still be my support while going through the breakup that I have?
	Because obviously I relapse, you know, like I'm an on and off situation.
	This is like why you have this.
	Okay, go ahead, Elizabeth.
	Go ahead.
	This is why she has her.
	She needs a therapist, right?
	Because she has mental illnesses.
	It's because of this guy.
	You're not a podcast.
	But whatever podcast.
	I'm your new therapist.
	Okay.
	You want her to vent this out to everybody?
	How much does your therapist charge you?
	Zero because I have insurance.
	Insurance.
	Okay.
	I guess you just have to appear on the whatever podcast more.
	Once a week.
	I want an update.
	And you have to come back in two weeks.
	We're going to do sit down.
	I'll get a couch for you so you can lay down.
	And okay.
	Morgan, you had something there before I had to make the methadone.
	I just want to know, like, okay, you're weaning off.
	When do you, in your mind, want to be like, all right, now we're done.
	Because I feel like you're just instigating not only his own feelings of, you know, maybe we'll get back together if he does want to get back together with you, but also your own feelings of you're not actually going to be able to work past him if you're still seeing him.
	So when is that like timeframe of like, hey, it's been two months?
	Yeah.
	I, you know, I don't know.
	Like, obviously, like, I hope that if I work with a therapist, or like, I know I have support with my friends.
	But, you know, it's not the same.
	It's not the same when your friends, your friends are not going to be there all the time.
	It's just, I don't know, it's just so hard what I obviously been through, but at the same time, it's like when nobody's there, like, obviously he's there.
	You know, I understand that that's not okay.
	But I feel like now that I'm working on myself now, like, I'm working on myself more than I have.
	You know, that's good.
	Progress.
	You know, I'm going to the gym.
	I try to go to the gym every day.
	You know, I try to write things down.
	Like there's like a little later on, you have to learn how to like not depend on him.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, I feel like I'm going to get there.
	It's just like, for me, it's a lot of patience.
	I see.
	I'm going to do a poll in the YouTube chat, and the poll is going to ask: does she get back with her toxic ex hold on, guys?
	The poll's coming up.
	Does she get back with her toxic ex-boyfriend?
	Have you seen the comments?
	I'm sorry.
	So it doesn't distract people.
	Okay, that's fine.
	What are they saying?
	Does she get back with her?
	Okay.
	What do you guys think?
	Poll scent.
	It should be getting up there in a sec.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't know if I've been this befuddled by.
	I just don't understand why you don't leave.
	Because if you look at every relationship, even if the guy is in control, if a woman decides to leave, she can leave.
	And the guy can chase and chase and chase.
	But women hold the control whether it's you want to sleep with a guy, you're the one that says no or yes.
	You know, if you want to date the guy, you're the one that says no or yes.
	The guy is courting you and going after you.
	So really, women do have the control in that situation.
	So she's addicted.
	I encourage you.
	She says she's a lot of people.
	She got a taper.
	That's why she needs a therapist.
	You know what I mean?
	She can't function by herself.
	I'm her thing.
	I am herself.
	She can't function by herself.
	You need a tune-in.
	She needs to be able to do that.
	You need to learn how to be able to function by yourself or going to herself.
	To be a strong, independent woman, you have to know how to function by yourself.
	I encourage you to go to the bathroom.
	And you know how to make choices of new friends.
	Are you a strong friend?
	Constant new guy friends.
	Yes, Brian.
	Elizabeth.
	Yes, Brian.
	And that's okay.
	You know, everybody functions differently.
	You know, like, you could be so independent.
	I'm really proud of that.
	But I can't.
	She needs some help.
	Yeah.
	You know, like, you can't.
	You can.
	No, I can.
	You have the capacity to be independent.
	And I think women also need to be independent with themselves before going into relationships.
	Yes.
	And a man also has to be mature and independent with himself.
	So when you come together, you actually make a good, harmonious unit.
	Of course.
	It's like a teamwork.
	You know, it's a team.
	Okay, I have a question for you.
	So you've listed a couple things about your boyfriend kind of being toxic, doing some very unbecoming things.
	If you had to say, what are one, two, or even three things that you did wrong in the relationship?
	If anything?
	I think what I did wrong is not give him enough space to him being independent and like just doing his own thing as an adult.
	Like for example, like I too clingy?
	Like that.
	Super needy.
	Yeah.
	I think just like give him like space.
	So for example, I told him to live with me for three months rent-free for him to save up for his car because he didn't have a car.
	And he's a grown man.
	I know.
	At 33?
	That's not the mistake that I made.
	I don't.
	Wait, hold on.
	You're 20.
	Wait, You're 22.
	Yes.
	So were you 21, 20 when you moved in with you?
	How old were you?
	I was 21.
	You're 21.
	You were starting to do that.
	32-year-old man moved in with you at the end.
	Brandon Mills donated $99.
	I'll replace the toxic X. Brian, talk about how I saved you from that house fire.
	So that's Brandon Mels.
	He is a Bitcoin millionaire.
	He's been on the podcast before.
	He likes petite Latino.
	Are you Latina?
	Yes, I speak Spanish.
	Can we hear something?
	Mi mamazu rango y mi bapa esetijuana.
	Ooh, that was hot.
	Thank you.
	If only Elizabeth spoke Vietnamese.
	So he likes petite Latina women.
	Maybe if you know.
	I don't date crypto guys, though.
	You don't date crypto guys.
	I mean, it depends.
	She has a person.
	I know, right?
	And the thing is, I date guys who's a whole thing.
	Like, I actually had a situation with a crypto guy that was 23 years old before.
	So I broke up with my boyfriend and I had a situation.
	It's a lot.
	Wow.
	Yo, your life is a mess.
	I know.
	You need to fix this.
	I'm here for this.
	I know.
	I need to fix you.
	I'm here for this.
	So basically, I like put a project.
	You're strong and independent.
	Congratulations.
	You're still basically.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	That doesn't make you any more attractive, just like women do not like Mr. Nice Guy.
	Is this to Elizabeth?
	Is that to her?
	Because Elizabeth said she's strong and independent.
	Hi, sir.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what's the question?
	There is no question.
	I think it's no question.
	I personally like nice guys.
	That's all.
	It's just my preference.
	Nice guys with 11 million followers on TikTok and 1.5 million followers on Instagram that live in Germany and are definitely, definitely not loyal to you and sleeping with other men.
	Or excuse me.
	Hold on.
	That's her.
	My best.
	Sleeping with other women.
	Hey, that's.
	Okay, you are a hater.
	It's all in the same.
	You know what?
	I'm looking out for you, Elizabeth.
	We're fucking homies.
	I mean, she hasn't dated anybody yet.
	Yes, I haven't dated anybody.
	You're a virgin.
	I'm a virgin.
	Yes, guys.
	That's so crazy.
	Queen Cap.
	I call cats.
	You know, I haven't tied into any other guy in your life.
	Your parents are watching.
	That's why you're saying you're a virgin.
	Just be honest.
	You just don't understand because the thing is, my parents, like I said, I think my mom, when she met her dad, they were virgins.
	I mean, she was a virgin.
	So this is why I'm still keeping strong to my religion.
	That's good.
	As you should.
	And this is why I only see one guy as like, you know what I mean?
	One guy as in your soulmate.
	Remember, I mentioned that last time?
	Yeah.
	Did you ever date an ice skater dude?
	Or are they all gay?
	That's actually a thing.
	Most guys are gay than you're a skater dancer.
	Yeah.
	I noticed guys they have a crush on me, but like I said, I don't give them attention.
	Is this the first guy you've ever talked to in your entire life?
	That have interests?
	Yeah.
	or very into yes because it's so I mentioned to you last time it's very easy for me to friend zone people because I don't see that initial connection right away Or there's something that bothers me to make to decide for them to be a friend.
	Wait, hold on.
	Nick, can you pull up the pop-up chat and put it over to the window tab and pull up the Twitch too?
	We'll show it and then show it on the Twitch tab.
	So pull up the Twitch tab and then we'll pull up the Twitch tab tab.
	We'll show the results of the poll which we took.
	Gosh.
	About is she gonna get back?
	Dang it.
	I hate Twitch people.
	Wait, what do you just kidding?
	I love them.
	I love you they're gonna say you got the twitch Why am I gonna guess they're gonna say yes?
	So here are the results.
	Can you click on the yes?
	Wait, did they say yes?
	They said yes to get back total hood?
	No.
	Does she get back with her toxic X boyfriend 804 votes?
	Yes.
	66%.
	Nick, you can hide that.
	34% no.
	You can move that over.
	Let me shout out the Twitch people really quick.
	Yo, Mac Zach, thank for the 10 community subs or the gifted.
	Well, yeah.
	69 Francine thing for the Prime.
	Mad Teabagger thing for the Tier 1.
	Blaze thing for the Prime.
	Fetty thing for the Prime.
	Killer extra Prime, BZ thing for the or gifted tier one, appreciate it.
	That's the results.
	They think you're going to get back together with your toxic ex-boyfriend.
	You moved in.
	Wait, okay, I think before.
	It sounds like there's toxic men in the chat.
	There's a lot of toxic men.
	Toxic men in the chat.
	With experience.
	Yes, there is.
	So your boyfriend moved, at the time who was 32, moved in with you at your place at 21 and rent free for three months?
	Yeah, because his car- What a Chad.
	What a fucking legend.
	Because his car stopped working.
	Can I move in with you?
	My car's in the middle of the day.
	Not anymore.
	Wait, not anymore.
	Why not?
	A year ago, maybe.
	Oh, you've grown.
	I've grown.
	Okay.
	You know, I let him for three months and he didn't save money at all.
	Like, he didn't buy a car until like this year.
	Did you play video games?
	No.
	I don't want to talk to video games.
	I don't know.
	Just bear him out.
	You're going to leave him anyways.
	Just bear him out.
	Dude, ready for the buttons, okay?
	Okay, I'm ready for the buttons.
	He wants to be an actor and he's a server.
	That's pretty normal in LA.
	Sounds about right.
	But at 33, it's very unstable.
	It's a restaurant, like where you can make a lot of money from it, though.
	I mean, he's been working in that for two years.
	It's normal, but like the fact that he told me not to do some stuff and I'm like, okay, then get a better job if you don't want me to.
	Like get a what?
	Get a better job.
	Like he told me like, oh, like you shouldn't like do this, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm like, okay, then get it, get a better money.
	Has that happened before?
	For me, not to do that.
	What was he asking you not to do?
	Hold on, hold on.
	Like content on the internet.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	I was like, okay, then pay my bills.
	Then like, are we supposed to be able to do that?
	Does he support?
	Did he pay for any of your stuff, groceries, like help with anything?
	Yeah, he did pay for groceries, but I feel like for me, it wasn't important.
	Like, I was struggling, and I feel like, you know, I was struggling a year ago.
	A year ago, I'm not where I am now.
	And he didn't really do anything to actually better his life.
	He's still in the same position, and I'm not.
	You know, I better myself.
	I try to have a better job.
	I have, you know, a better job now that I had a year ago.
	And he's still kind of in the same position of like, you know, right now he lives at his dad's house to save money.
	He's just kind of like holding you back, you know?
	Yeah, I feel obviously you know you have the potential to get a better job, focus on yourself, get a better life than you did have like, what'd you say, a year or two ago?
	Yeah.
	Like, you know, you have the potential to do that.
	I feel like he's just holding you back because he's been the same person he has for the entire time that he's known you.
	He hasn't tried to better himself at all.
	And that works to the detriment of you.
	From the beginning, what actually attracted you to him?
	Because it sounds like, yeah, like Maddie said, like, he's had like a track record from, you know, a year ago.
	Okay, he moved into you rent with you rent-free.
	And now, you know, the toxicity got worse.
	So what actually made you want to stay with him like three months in?
	You know, because I feel like us women, you know, we have our boxes, our checklist boxes when we're looking at a partner.
	Okay, what qualities do you have that I want and what qualities do I have that they want?
	What red flags were you really missing from the job?
	Well, we met as a, we did a commercial together.
	We met there.
	We really had the vibes of like, you know, like the humor and stuff like that.
	Like, you know, in the beginning, you know, we went on first date.
	We really got along with what we did, you know, because we were both actors.
	You know, it was cool to like have somebody like to relate to and everything like that.
	Totally.
	I think I was just blind.
	You know, love is blind.
	You know, like it really gives you.
	I think so.
	Yeah, because from experience, yeah.
	You know, Brian looked like that.
	I mean, especially when you're first meeting someone, you don't really know who they are when you're first meeting someone.
	Even in like you can get into a relationship with someone, it'll be good for a year, a year after that.
	Like they're true colors.
	All right, Brian, what's your relationship status?
	Let's see.
	Single forever?
	We need to go to Morgan and then we'll go to Madison.
	I am single.
	I've been single for six months.
	Oh, recently.
	What?
	Why could you do me like that?
	Don't worry, don't worry.
	I've been in a couple relationships, but yeah, I've been single for six months.
	My relationship before that was a couple of months, and that was my first, I would say, like grown-up relationship, like waiting until marriage, you know, practicing just religion is like really important to me.
	And then my longest relationship has been six months.
	Okay.
	Are you purposely single right now?
	Yes, actually.
	Purposefully single.
	Like, I've been asked to go on dates, but I've respectfully declined because I'm right now focusing on my relationship with God, which that's really important to me.
	And I want to be like, I want to be whole, you know, have my reading down, my journaling down, be the word, and be 100% like plugged in.
	I'm serving at my church and stuff like that before I can, you know, fully do that.
	Which, I mean, I plan to be in a relationship in like a year.
	Yeah.
	I think it just comes to you.
	I feel like, you know, somebody's going to come to you.
	You don't have to look for somebody.
	Right.
	And those are the things.
	Yeah, it'll come naturally.
	That's what I believe.
	Like, not actively searching.
	I mean, you don't need a search.
	You don't need a tie or something.
	Right.
	But if a guy comes to me and I feel like it's time to go.
	Okay.
	Can you repeat what you said, though?
	Just now?
	A guy will just come to you?
	Can the guy think the same thing?
	The girl will just come to him?
	A girl will just come.
	No.
	No, no, no, it doesn't work that way for me.
	Well, it's not even about that.
	Physically, what would you?
	Oh, well, yeah, men need to work on themselves to attract a woman.
	Yes, Guys, one mic at a time, please.
	Well, the guys have to initiate, generally speaking.
	So, like, a guy can't just be like, a girl will come to me.
	No.
	I mean, it could happen.
	It hasn't seen a laboratory, but that's how it, you know, for the guy.
	He definitely searches more than the girl.
	Definitely.
	It depends.
	Like the guy will have to ask the girl on a date, take her out and whatnot.
	But I think for women, it's honestly, in a sense, easier because we, again, we have the power.
	We can say no.
	We can say yes.
	But also, when it gets to the point where I'm like, you know, I'll probably be in a relationship in the next year.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	I got to read this before it disappears.
	Yo, boss, man.
	Thank you for the AD.
	Sorry about girls flaking, Brian.
	It's in their nature.
	Is the real Natch still coming on?
	I'm sure you could bring girls to the show too.
	Again, first off, thank you for the donation.
	Yeah, I mean, flaking happens.
	I mean, it's unfortunate because it wasn't just flaking.
	It was no show.
	So flaking would be the day before, hey, sorry, can't make it.
	Even the day of, sorry, I can't make it.
	No show is, I checked in with them the night before, we're going to be there.
	And then no communication, no, hey, we're not going to make it, just not showing up, which is super rude because I don't like if someone flakes in under 24 hours, I don't like that either because it's hard to get people last minute, but at least they let me know.
	But if someone just no shows, they're basically just locking in three seats that it's going to be very hard to fill.
	So yeah, as far as real Natch, I'm sure he could bring girls on the show too.
	So I've had some really bad experiences with guys who are like, oh, because we get 100 guys a week wanting to be on the show.
	And they're like, oh, well, one of the things we used to do is like, can you bring some girls?
	And we've done that.
	And then the guys talk a big game.
	Yeah, I'll bring five chicks, whatever.
	And then they fucking, they're dog shit.
	They can't fucking lock down the chicks.
	And we had one dude.
	Huh?
	Lag.
	There's lag.
	That's one person.
	Oh, well, before that, it was like a lot of people, yeah.
	Yeah, I was checking it out.
	Oh, no.
	What the fuck, bro?
	Is it, yo, chat, hold on.
	Did it just start, guys?
	Did the lag just start?
	It did just start.
	I think it just better.
	Hold on, let me look at it on my end.
	Okay, can someone explain to me what 304s mean?
	304 means.
	It's an area code.
	Area code.
	Don't worry about it.
	Okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	Hold on.
	Let me.
	No, we've invited, there was this dude who came on an episode and he was like, he literally took up the entire booking.
	He booked seven girls and he showed up with like two.
	Oh my God.
	Or sorry, three, which like fucked up the show.
	So I'm never booking dudes with chicks again.
	It's never happened.
	It's never happening.
	Not lagging.
	No lag for me.
	You want to, and also we, oh, the other thing when it comes to guys, look, I know maybe some of you watching have reached out wanting to be on the show.
	The reality is, guys, is we've given a lot of normal guys the opportunity to be on the show, even some normal women to be on the show.
	Well, it's different with the women, but and a lot of guys are like, oh, let me be on the show.
	I'm really good.
	Like, I'm really entertaining.
	And they come on the show and they're sitting in front of 3,000 people.
	There's four cameras.
	There's lights.
	They're sitting across from people who probably disagree with them.
	And they fucking choke.
	They sit there.
	They don't say shit.
	They detract from the conversation.
	It's a dead seat.
	So when it comes to the guys, so I'm getting fucking worked up because I'm like, I've had.
	The guys are not good.
	No, like they're not.
	They don't know how to die.
	They eat up a seat.
	They talk a big game.
	And then when it comes down to being on the show, they fucking choke and they waste a seat and they sit there fucking nodding their fucking head.
	So I'm very skeptical.
	You are very mad.
	No, I don't know why.
	It just terrifies me.
	Beta males is what they are.
	No, it's not even that.
	It's just like it's very easy from the comfort behind your screen to be like, oh, I'm such a good debater.
	I'm such a good arguer.
	But in the moment, in person, it's a lot harder.
	Don't call me up like that.
	Yo, Brandon, I'm going to be honest.
	Like, I'm not going to lie, dude.
	You didn't say much during your appearance, but I appreciate your support, man.
	But listen, Brandon, there were a lot of guys who been on the show.
	It's not just, it wasn't just you.
	I'm not trying to call you out, but like, it has been our experience when we invite dudes on, they fucking choke.
	That's why, like, I'm very, very picky with the guys we invite on.
	Typically, they have to like have some proven track record of public speaking, content creation, doing something with public speaking, because, again, a lot of guys, it's, I was this way too.
	Like, it's very easy from the comfort of your home watching the stream.
	Oh, I would respond to, I would say this when they say this.
	And trust me, guys, it ain't like that.
	It ain't like that.
	It's different.
	Okay, so, anyways, moving on.
	Appreciate your super chat there.
	Okay, we have Kips.
	I got to get through some super chats.
	Then Morgan, we'll go back to you.
	Kips, I've just recently turned 40.
	I'd say I attract women around my age well.
	Would you girls, 18 to early 20s, be attracted to a 40-year-old high-value man?
	Absolutely.
	Based.
	It depends.
	I mean, your boyfriend is.
	Preferences too.
	It depends on how mature or mature.
	I have standards now, guys.
	Do you?
	I'm getting there.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I have preference.
	That's too old.
	I like old guys.
	What's the oldest for you, Elizabeth?
	Is it 34?
	Probably 34.
	35.
	I like that she has standards.
	I don't know.
	Just saying.
	I do, yeah, that's...
	34 is too old?
	I think 34 is still too old.
	I think it's too young.
	You like older guys?
	I like older guys.
	You're how old again?
	I'm 26.
	How old would you be go oldest?
	Probably 50.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What's the oldest guy you've dated?
	I've been, I've actually dated somebody that was 45.
	That's the oldest one.
	But he looked 30.
	Was super awesome.
	Like, was the coolest guy ever.
	Had a lot of fun dating him, but it just didn't work out.
	How old was the.
	Oh, wait.
	We already.
	Okay, never mind.
	We already talked about that.
	Yeah.
	This is just like a guy that I've dated.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Thank you, Kips.
	Oh, FTG.
	Hey, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
	I think that triggers fireworks.
	Hey, thank you.
	We have not catfish here.
	Brandon.
	No, I think this one already came through.
	I am confirming that I am real.
	We and Elizabeth are talking.
	Back off, everyone.
	That's so cute.
	All right, we have.
	Hold on.
	Don't come here.
	That's really cute.
	I think there's an hold on.
	I'm preempting because there's another super chat about to come in here.
	We have.
	I'm squinting because I'm blind.
	Can you see?
	No.
	I can't see.
	Brandon Meltz donated $99.
	I will become the best debater the world has ever seen.
	Chat believes in me.
	Ra hashtag bring back Brandon.
	Yo, one in the chat if you want Brandon to come back on the show.
	One in the chat if you want Brandon to come back on the show.
	Two in the chat if you say no.
	Sorry, Brandon.
	Who's Brandon?
	Sorry, Brandon.
	One in the chat, you want him on?
	I see more ones.
	Hey, he was saying, like, I'm their girlfriend, too.
	Brandon was on the show, what, three weeks back?
	Who else was on that show?
	Aubrey.
	Who were the girls on the other side?
	You see the guy with the shortened hand on Aubrey.
	Like a flat.
	Shout out to Aub.
	Who is Brandon?
	I think some of the people are thinking like old school Brandon with the face tats.
	Not that Brandon.
	In any case, thank you.
	Appreciate it for the donation.
	All right, we have House of Matrix.
	You're worried about mental health.
	You don't even have a real boyfriend.
	LMFAO.
	Hashtag Germany.
	Can I ask a question next?
	Elizabeth, your response to this?
	Wait, is this?
	Wait.
	Yeah.
	Is this for Elizabeth?
	Is that for me?
	If you guys don't think it's real, then that's your.
	That's your opinions.
	Yeah.
	Like, I know what's in my head and I know what's what I have.
	No, I don't think they're claiming that it's like.
	They think it's imaginary.
	I don't think they're saying it's imaginary.
	She's not like a literal boyfriend.
	I don't think.
	Like, y'all are just talking.
	He's like a companion.
	Like, not your boyfriend yet.
	It's not validated.
	Oh, I see.
	I see what you mean.
	I see what's happening.
	It's not validated.
	You know?
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have big whatever that is.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	We have Usagi Rabbit, Mercy Buku for the Canadian 100.
	Madison is the best.
	Elizabeth is the worst.
	What?
	What?
	Don't hate all of us.
	Elizabeth is the homie.
	Are you kidding me?
	Brandon Meltz donated $99.
	I won't let you down, chat.
	IT will be scorched earth when I am back.
	Let's go hashtag bring back Brandon.
	I need to see him.
	Like, what does he look like?
	No comment.
	What does he look like?
	I forgot which dating talk.
	I think it was 92 or something.
	Four or five episodes ago.
	He's a chat.
	He's a dog.
	Yeah, he's cool.
	Brandon.
	He's cool.
	I gotta give the tough love, man.
	You gotta step it up.
	Stochastic Decay donated $99.
	Oh, gosh.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Stochastic.
	Brian, Bran, Stochastic Decay thinks you should bring back Brandon and add Puffy Vegas with all his girls.
	Puffy, be quiet tonight.
	Yeah.
	Puffy, yeah, Puff.
	He'll pop up.
	He'll pop in later on in the show for sure.
	All right, thank you guys so much for all your chats.
	Really appreciate it.
	It means the world.
	Thank you for your patronage.
	Oh, wow.
	There's a lot coming in right now.
	Holy shit.
	We got like two.
	We got a few.
	King underscore Iron Donation.
	Yeah, thank you, Ryan.
	Ladies, would you rather have an average man who's your height and is monogamous, or a great man who's above six feet but isn't monogamous but expects you to be?
	Brian, definitely get it there and you guys would make a great combo.
	Yo, King Ryan, thank you very much.
	Ladies, would you rather have an average man who's your height and is monogamous or a great man who's above six feet but isn't monogamous?
	An average man that's my height and is monogamous.
	Yeah, the average man who's monogamous, not monogamy.
	Wiley Coyote 50 donated $99.
	I will never understand why beautiful women go for losers.
	One day you will look back on the time you spent with this guy and realize how you wasted years of your life when there are legitimately good men out there.
	I pray you figure it out soon.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	Is this directed towards you?
	Follow me.
	I have a question for you.
	So like, let's say a great guy tomorrow asks you out on a date.
	Is your toxic ex-boyfriend going to drive you to the date?
	No, I have my own car.
	Oh, you drive?
	Yeah.
	Oh, why did he drive you then?
	Because it's convenient for me.
	I'm not going to drive two hours here.
	Did he like offer to drive you or something?
	Yeah.
	Oh, he's because.
	Oh, I see.
	So you used him for a ride.
	Yeah.
	Because he wants to.
	The entire car ride, was he like trying to talk you back into taking him back?
	No, it was just chill.
	I was doing my makeup.
	Did he throw that out the window on the highway?
	Probably.
	No.
	You know what?
	He throw out the window and then he like bought them back, but I know like it's not the same.
	Like obviously.
	Yeah.
	Can I have you just tilt your mic your mic a little bit faster?
	Whenever you guys hang out, does he initiate the hangout or do you?
	Um, he does.
	Okay.
	Bro, you gotta go cold turkey.
	Yeah, I am, but that's still hard, though, because he keeps asking me.
	Why is hard?
	Because he knows that you're being saved.
	I already have stuff that is so hard.
	I'm like, wow, like one more hard thing.
	You know, it's like, wow.
	Like, I don't know.
	I know.
	It's life, but it's like, I guess I just have like.
	Do you guys still cuddle?
	Yeah.
	Have you slept over?
	Get the fuck out of here, Pen.
	Have you slept over at his place since?
	I swear I don't throw things.
	Well, I said before he lives at his dad's place.
	Has he slept over at your place?
	Yeah.
	So he has slept over at your place since you've broken up.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you definitely have to go.
	This whole story would get people would be so angry.
	But you're not sleeping together.
	But he's still in the city.
	Bro, they're for sure smashing.
	You guys are.
	Come on, be honest.
	Please be honest.
	You guys have hooked up.
	Yeah.
	So you lied earlier.
	But what?
	But like in the past two months, have y'all hooked up?
	When you guys were broken?
	Bro, I literally asked.
	I asked.
	Trust issues there.
	Yes.
	Yo, yo, yo.
	You said, I've been single for two months.
	And I asked, in the two months, have you hooked up with him?
	And you're like, no.
	Well, I'm shy about it.
	You know, like, it's something that's like really personal.
	You know, this show gives me trust issues.
	That's true.
	You're giving me trust issues.
	This is an abusive relationship.
	Yeah.
	You have lied to me.
	I'm a fucking idiot.
	I mean, if you're still sleeping together, then are you actually broken up?
	Yeah, okay.
	Not really, probably not.
	Yeah.
	I think, honestly, if you're still seeing each other to a certain extent, you're not completely broken up because the way that he constantly will ask you to hang out, he knows you're going to say yes.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	Which gives him the message that one day you're going to go back to him.
	So when's the most recent time you guys hooked up?
	Was it today?
	Yesterday.
	Yesterday?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	Okay, so you guys are still together.
	I think I'm just obviously scared.
	Like, I have this thing where I'm really scared of, like, you know.
	Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Well, I don't know.
	Dude, I think I'm too hyped on fucking caffeine right now.
	I think Brian's really jittery right now.
	The secret sauce, this is the juice.
	This is my juice that I drink.
	I have two of these every show.
	There may or may not be performance-enhancing drugs in there, but like PEDs.
	Like, if I tried to do a race or some shit, they'd probably get sponsored.
	I'd probably get pinged for like, you know, the juice.
	Okay, so, Morgan, were you on the show where I was like, hmm, I don't want to pay for first dates.
	Were you on that show, Morgan?
	No, but my friend was.
	Holy fucked up.
	Look, there's a really big dragonfly up there.
	Fuck that.
	Bug up.
	Yo, no, man.
	Nick, it's cool.
	It's cool.
	It's cool.
	No, it's like a really big dragonfly.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's a bug that went into our extremely hot lights.
	Like our giant brain.
	It's going to burn.
	Fake.
	Fuck that bug up, son.
	Sometimes I'm not.
	Oh, I've been looking at it since it's flowing.
	Wait, it's going to catch on fire.
	Is it going to get electrocuted?
	Wait, this is talking about certain preferred subjects.
	Elizabeth, feel like I've seen you at Javier's, not once, but many times.
	I love Javier's.
	Best place.
	Bro, that dragonfly is actually like...
	What did he say?
	Get the enchiladas.
	I was about to say the enchiladas.
	Yeah, but don't burn yourself.
	It's hot.
	The lights are really hot.
	I think it's dying.
	Oh, no.
	You're like too hype for me.
	Bro, it's my fight.
	Hey, he's not.
	Yo, do we have any chopsticks?
	It's still going to be hot if you're going to get it.
	Can we get some chopsticks?
	Who carries chopsticks?
	Get that.
	Fuck that dragonfly up, Nick.
	Fuck it up, Nick.
	There we go.
	That is huge.
	It's not dead, right?
	It's huge.
	Is it dead?
	Isn't it flying?
	Is it dead?
	I think you need to step on it.
	Brian, you'd be such a good hype man if one of your friends were in a fight.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	You got him there?
	Oh, my God.
	Fuck that dragonfly up.
	Oh, it's dead.
	Wait, should we here?
	Just put it in the middle of the table.
	Middle of the table.
	I want to see the dragonfly.
	I don't like you to see dead fly.
	Bam, son.
	Nick, fucked that dragonfly up, son.
	It's so good.
	It's so huge.
	Watch, it starts flying again.
	Oh my god, my God.
	I thought it moved.
	I swear to God.
	The way it's moving.
	Oh, my.
	The legs are moving.
	It's not dead.
	Oh, my God.
	Do you have a put a Tupperware over it?
	Yo, it's wait, Nick.
	Get that shit out of here, dude.
	Get that shit out of here.
	Get that fucking dragonfly out of here.
	Get it out of here.
	Brian's scared of bugs.
	Oh, Nick appearance.
	Oh, wow, Nick.
	Identity revealed.
	Okay, I don't know where the fuck we're doing.
	Yo, Azul, hold on.
	Paying for first dates.
	Wait, yeah, yeah, we'll come back to that.
	Azul69.
	He says he's autistic, so he can't be a guest on the show.
	Hey, that doesn't prevent me from being on the show, son.
	That's right.
	Doesn't stop me.
	Yeah.
	I'm autistic, probably.
	Okay.
	Hyperfixated.
	Can't stop talking about certain preferred subjects.
	Elizabeth, feel like I've seen you at Javier's, not once, but can you outskate Kim?
	Who's Kim Yuna?
	Oh, you know, you're big Javier.
	Javier.
	I have never been to Javier's.
	I've never been to either on the side of the city.
	This is not.
	You have to go.
	Javier.
	Javier.
	You guys are both both living on Java.
	J-Vier.
	No, it's not JV.
	Did you say J-Vier?
	Javier.
	He said Javier's a Mexican restaurant.
	It's so good.
	I suggest you go.
	Oh.
	I've never been there.
	Me neither.
	What about the Kim Yuna thing?
	Okay, whatever.
	She's on hunting.
	Wait, so Morgan, were you on the show where we were talking about me not wanting to pay on first dates?
	I think it was mentioned, but I know Alex was on that show.
	Yeah, we got into it heavy with Alex.
	I'll get into it.
	Have you?
	Well, so one of the arguments I make when it comes to not paying for the first dates is you don't know.
	Like, a girl could say she's single, but I could say he's several.
	That's true.
	A guy could say he's single and sleeping with his ex-realing me out, damn it.
	But women don't pay for first dates.
	Right, but I mean, you don't have to spend $100 on a first date, $200.
	I mean, five.
	But okay, so your name is Amber, correct?
	Okay.
	If I was on a first date with Amber, and because you said you hooked up with your.
	You said you've been single for two months.
	Yeah, but I'm not dating anybody.
	Like, I'm not going on a date with anybody.
	You're still cuddling with your ex-toxic ex-boyfriend.
	And you still have to say that.
	No, she's saying she wouldn't go on a date.
	She wouldn't go on a date with anybody else.
	Yeah.
	You wouldn't date anybody else.
	No, because I feel like I'm not.
	You're not really single.
	I'm not a single situation.
	Because the thing is, I wouldn't want to do that to somebody.
	That kind of sucks.
	I'm not that person that's going to be like going on a date to see if like you're still kind of hooked.
	I want to focus on myself and like.
	Okay.
	You know.
	Makes sense.
	So, so.
	Kind of.
	This is one of the reasons why I don't think dudes should be paying for first dates.
	Because if I was on a date with you and it's like, yeah, I fucked my ex yesterday.
	I'm single, by the way.
	And you spent five bucks on a cup of coffee and you end it after $5 ton of coffee and you walk out on the date.
	I mean, I am pro.
	Like, if a guy finds something out and that's a major red flag, like leave the date.
	You don't have to stay.
	You're not bound by two hours sitting at a dinner table.
	You can go both meal.
	And it can go both ways.
	But there's, like, me as a woman, okay, I am in the dating market, kind of, in the next couple of months.
	What are your pronouns, by the way?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	My pronouns?
	Let's not go there.
	Pronouns are stupid.
	Please don't assume your own gender.
	You don't want to assume my own gender.
	Yeah, please do not assume your own gender.
	Oh my gosh, they expose it.
	It would be woman.
	They know exactly what I mean.
	Women talking to.
	Wait, huh?
	Brian is on crack.
	I know.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, what?
	Wait, who is it?
	Wait.
	Go to the live.
	Go live.
	Let me see who it is.
	Oh, God.
	Who is it, boys?
	Who is it?
	It's the newest comment.
	I saw all the way down.
	Wait, down?
	I'm not on crack.
	I just had way too much caffeine today.
	Why did they find out who's ill for me?
	Wait, I saw it.
	See it?
	Go up a little.
	Stop.
	Where?
	Jacob Rott?
	Oh, Jacob Rott.
	Who the fuck is.
	Hold on.
	Let's look him up.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	I have no idea who that is.
	Hold on.
	How did.
	How is it?
	Why are we?
	They're detective.
	I'm so sorry.
	Detective.
	If you want this private.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Somebody donated money and they said, like, they called you hot.
	Who?
	I saw the chat.
	Called who hot.
	You.
	My guy.
	Who?
	Oh, your guy.
	Oh, your guy?
	Yeah.
	Co-founder.
	Runaway.
	He's handsome.
	He's handsome.
	Let me see.
	You're still talking?
	Can I see him?
	Can you pull it up?
	Brian, what would you rate him on a scale of?
	I want to say.
	On the scale of 1 to 10.
	He's kind of a Chad.
	Kind of a Chad, okay?
	Kind of a Chad.
	What do you think?
	I give him like an.
	What do you think?
	I think he's an eight.
	Solid, solid eight.
	I call myself a solid eight.
	Me too.
	He's 6'1.
	Wait, are we pulling it up?
	No, we're not.
	We won't.
	Oh, wait, that's true.
	Okay.
	Or maybe we should.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Should we?
	Do we?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Oh, my God.
	I'll show you my ex.
	I'm scared.
	Well, sorry, my boyfriend.
	Oh.
	You want us to pull up his Instagram right now?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so, okay.
	I don't know where we left off here.
	First aids.
	First aids.
	Yeah.
	We were talking about paying for president.
	Yeah, I mean somebody did say something.
	They donated money and they said, oh, like, watch out, guys.
	They're like, girls can bumbuzzle too.
	And I don't know.
	Someone said that something.
	it must have been under the threshold but okay we were talking about I don't even know I'm just, I'm bamboozled by this conversation.
	The fucking dragonfly, your boyfriend who you're single, but you're tapering, but you fucked him last night.
	It's just.
	Not single.
	Just, bro, this is.
	I don't think he thinks you guys are single.
	Or like apart.
	Of course not.
	Yeah.
	Do you think he could possibly be the one, or do you think you just are personally?
	I don't think so because I feel like I need to be emotionally detached from somebody and like fully like, hey, like, I don't want to be with you anymore to actually see myself like, oh, I want to date again or as single.
	How are you supposed to emotionally detach though if you're still sleeping with him?
	I don't know yet.
	I don't know.
	Wait, okay, I have a question.
	Was it a nighttime that doesn't really matter?
	Was it at nighttime that he was it the same day he threw your makeup and your phone?
	No, no, no.
	This is like months.
	Yeah, like this is like smart.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	The day he threw, was it all your makeup or just like concealer?
	No.
	What did he throw?
	I love how you know what concealer is.
	It was like a good amount.
	He threw like your stock, your entire stock out or just some of it?
	I think half of it.
	What did he think of?
	Yeah, like, I think it was like my highlighter, like my bronzer.
	Oh, the bronzer.
	Yeah, the bronzer.
	That's expensive.
	That's not the bronzer.
	Still highlighting.
	Everything but the bronzer.
	Yeah, highlighter is like 65.
	It's like 75.
	The highlighter.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Question.
	The night he threw out some or all of your makeup.
	Did you fuck him after?
	No, I don't think so.
	No.
	There wasn't like makeup sex?
	I left.
	No.
	Fuck you, motherfucker.
	You threw out my fucking bronzer, bitch.
	You didn't say that shit.
	I think I'm more of an emotional person.
	Like, I would cry more.
	I'm not, like, really a violent person.
	I know I'm, like...
	Violent, huh?
	I'm not.
	I was talking if you guys fuck, not throw fist at cups.
	No, we didn't.
	You didn't?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Makeup sex?
	No makeup sex?
	No, I don't like that.
	You don't like makeup sex?
	No.
	Yeah.
	It's kind of like lamb, you know.
	Makeup sex is very toxic.
	I'm just super.
	Yeah, I just don't.
	I don't have that if you're into toxic sex.
	Yeah.
	I'm not such a sexual person.
	Like, sometimes I'm not.
	Are you asexual?
	I don't know.
	I. How often do you and your sort of kind of not really, but sort of?
	Like, I can go, yeah.
	Like two months, three months.
	Well, when you're single or when you're in a relationship?
	When I'm in a relationship.
	That's a yiki.
	Because I don't.
	That's a yiki.
	Yeah.
	Because, hold on, but is it because your partner doesn't initiate?
	No, it's because of like, for example, like my current relationship, it's because he's toxic.
	Like, I'm not attracted to somebody.
	Like, if he does something to me, like, I'm not attracted to somebody like that.
	Were you with me?
	Y'all fucked last night, son.
	What?
	I know.
	But it's probably because I'm like hormonal right now, to be honest.
	Wait, that's what?
	You're horny right now?
	Why are you?
	Hormonal.
	You're pro what?
	Hormonal?
	Are you on a hormones?
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Suck my blank from the back, B.
	I mean, he didn't donate $100.
	Is that your boyfriend?
	Wow, that's very abusive.
	That was a very abusive TTS that didn't even.
	I think if you curse in the TTS, guys, it won't trigger.
	Yeah.
	I'll have to read it.
	Okay.
	Your life's a mess.
	You need to come on this podcast every two weeks for your therapy session.
	I am your new therapist.
	You can call me Dr. Brian and I will try to help you.
	But honestly, I think you're a lost cause.
	I think it's a lost cause.
	Well, you're emotionally harming yourself.
	Of course.
	And physically, because I mean, the more you're sleeping with him.
	I know that.
	It's just like, you know, like, it's just so hard for me.
	I don't know.
	Cope.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it's so hard.
	So I think the more you sleep with someone, the more emotionally attached you're going to need to do.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	So I think maybe just start off with not sleeping with him.
	Yes.
	You go three months without fucking your boyfriend.
	That is.
	First off, that's grounds for a breakup.
	Yeah.
	Or you just don't sleep with them until you get married.
	Yes.
	And then it's not an issue.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Because you're committed to that person and you know you're committed to that person forever because then when you sleep with them, it clouds your judgment.
	Yeah, but did you miss the person?
	That's true, though.
	But like, to be honest, hold on.
	Did you miss the part, Morgan, where Amber said that she was a Satanist before the show?
	Did you miss that?
	She's not.
	No.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Did you not see that?
	But did you miss that part, Morgan?
	You worship Beelzebub, admit it.
	What's that?
	Beelzebub?
	Lucifer.
	Diablo?
	Oh my god.
	Diablo.
	No, no black magic here, guys.
	I love black magic.
	Diablo.
	I love puss in boots.
	Yeah.
	I love that.
	I love his voice.
	I always refer to my cats.
	See, but look, this goes back to what I was saying: is women have the powers.
	If you decided to stop sleeping with him, then he would still try and get you back, but you have the power to stop it.
	And that's why I think, you know, even in hookup culture, women need to say, no, I'm not going to hook up with you.
	Because I think hookup culture wouldn't be a problem if women just decided to, you know what, actually, I am going to treat my body with respect and I'm not going to hook up with you as a guy just for a one-night stand.
	I'm not going to hook up with you two weeks into the relationship, three months into the relationships.
	Like, ladies need to hold out for it until, you know.
	And if, you know, I think you should save yourself for marriage.
	I did it in the past.
	Now I'm saving myself.
	Yes.
	But like men need to provide and improve it.
	I'm just saying, like, I thought that too, but oh my gosh, like I seismatic.
	That's why I'm like, wait, hope.
	Wait, what?
	Wait, what?
	Wait, what happened?
	Penis size matters.
	Penis size matters?
	It matters.
	So you're saying about that?
	I know why you're hung up on your toxic exercise.
	He has a huge pen.
	How.
	What?
	You really think that size matters?
	Yeah, because I've had experience.
	Wait, don't throw Frankie out.
	I'm kidding.
	Wait, no, no.
	I'm just saying.
	Wait, trust.
	Like, I understand, like, trust me.
	Like, it's just, like, I've had before, like, you know, smaller than five.
	I've had experience.
	And it's like, I don't think it matters.
	I understand, like, when you love somebody, like, it doesn't matter and stuff like that.
	But, like, as a little relationship goes on, I'm like, bored.
	But don't you think that intimacy is something that should be learned between a man and a woman and that you can learn what each other likes?
	Like, that's the beauty of intimacy with somebody.
	Yeah, like, it's really different.
	Like, but, you know, obviously Christianity, like, it's all about, like, the love of God.
	Like, you know, when people, two people love God, you know, that's first and then their relationship.
	It's like a foundation.
	But I mean, sexual intimacy is still a huge part of like a marriage.
	Like, of course.
	That is huge.
	Like, I don't think a woman should ever withhold sex from their husband because like, then why would you put your husband in that situation of like withholding sex from them?
	But when it comes to like size, like that's something that I think is learned to get.
	Let's say you like date for marriage and then you find out and then you don't like it.
	Like, what do you do there?
	You learn how to do that.
	I mean, that is kind of semi-valid.
	Like, what if you don't like obviously?
	You cry so much and like you don't like it.
	Like what if you're just like, yo.
	But if you're waiting until marriage, like, you're probably at least somewhat religious.
	So, like, till death do us, till death do us part in sickness and stuff.
	I feel like sex is different to people.
	It's like religious.
	Yes, it is.
	Sex should be even more valuable.
	It's more like because I see it as a value.
	You're a moral treasure.
	If God intends you, intends for you to marry a guy with a micro-penis, like that's God's will.
	Well, I also think this also.
	Why are we talking about this?
	I don't know.
	She's talking about penis size.
	Apparently, her boyfriend has a giant dish.
	No.
	Okay.
	It's huge.
	So I got where you're staying with him because they're giant schlong.
	No.
	Wait, I'm going to open this up to the other girls here.
	Yeah.
	I want you to be really honest, right?
	Does size matter?
	I don't think so.
	I'm going to say no.
	Yeah.
	Well, for you, yes.
	Are you a size queen?
	No, the thing is, like, I think it, I saw something, you know, it is true.
	Like, it depends on how they use it.
	I think, you know, like, he could have a, you know, a micro, whatever, and then he knows how to use it.
	He knows how to move, you know?
	Like, I think.
	Would you marry a guy that's a virgin?
	Of course.
	Like, it goes back to, like, I still have, like, you know, religious beliefs of, like, I understand.
	Like, I kind of want to go back one day to that.
	What's preventing you from going back?
	I think for me right now, I'm like doing stuff that, like, obviously is not okay.
	You know, and like, that doesn't mean you're not welcome in the church and like God doesn't still love you.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think it's just like a whole like, I need to actually be super into like really having a relationship with God.
	Like, and for me, like, I don't think I'm in 100% there yet, you know?
	But also, I think God can find us in our lowest places.
	Yeah.
	That's what you can get into those dark places, and that's how you can come to Christ.
	That's true.
	Speaking of people.
	Because when you believe in the world, her boyfriend has a giant fucking picture.
	Oh my gosh.
	I'm sorry.
	What's wrong with that?
	No, there's good for him.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, Brian, you always say, like, you know, body count mattering, experience, and stuff like that.
	You want a virgin.
	I think, you know, lower body count is better.
	So then sexual experience, that's what going back to, like, does size matter?
	No, because I don't even, like, body count matters to extent because then you can work together on learning that intimacy.
	I mean, that's true.
	Yeah.
	And there's toys.
	You can always throw toys in the middle.
	So then, like, I'd argue a virgin could be equal to like, you know, maybe a smaller size because if they're a virgin, they don't know what they're doing in like societal standards.
	A guy who has a smaller thing, you know, may know how to whatever.
	But if a guy's a virgin, he's never done it before.
	So you still have to learn that intimacy in the same way that if, you know, you have slept with somebody and you're working together in that relationship.
	I think it's all about teamwork.
	Like, if the person really wants to, like, really loves that person, they will work hard to obviously satisfy their wife.
	Right.
	You know, I think that's really important.
	So size doesn't matter.
	It shouldn't matter.
	And you're right.
	You know, like, you know what?
	I think it's absolutely fine for you to have a genitalia preference because it happens to be the case that I've got a genitalia preference.
	Oh my God.
	Oh, no.
	I like, you know, I'm also, I'm a size king.
	I like women with giant labia.
	Just huge armies.
	Hey, let's be nice.
	Offensive terms.
	Well, would you girls 18 to early 20s be attracted to a high-value man?
	How much is an age of 10 to 15 years a factor in considering a relationship?
	Personally, I like to date Men kind of around my age within five years older, I would say, because I'm kind of on the same page as them in a way.
	It depends with life and everything.
	I feel like if I were to date an older man, they'd have more they'd just like want to settle down faster than I do, or they want to do things more than I do because you're older, you know, like you're just on different wavelengths of life.
	There's maturity differences, developmental differences.
	You also have to think about, you know, if you're 60, when you're older and you're dating someone who's 80, well, if that person passes away, you know, you have time to live that they're not going to be there with you in your support.
	And, you know, I'm not opposed to, you know, if you want to date someone older than you.
	I think my limit, I'm 24, my limit probably be at this point 28, so four years older, because I think it is important, like, when you are building a life with somebody, you know, men do develop emotionally a little bit later, maturity level a little bit later, but not like 20 years later.
	It's just, I think, a difference.
	And then it gets to the point, you know, if they're old enough to be your dad, that's, you know, it's like, where is their head to?
	Yeah.
	I think it just depends on the person.
	Like, I could see that.
	Like, if you're more mature, then you would want probably an older guy, you know, to match with your level.
	But if you're not on the same page, I guess you would know when you talk to someone who can still be very immature.
	They can.
	And it's the same thing with women.
	That is true.
	Older men can be very immature.
	A lot of older women can be closer to that.
	That is true.
	I think for me, it was always just because I've tried to date guys that were either younger or like within the same age group.
	And it's just, I feel like I was always at such a different level because I had the party phase, I had the going out phase.
	And when I started dating guys that were a little bit older than me, I was like, okay, like, because I'm at the point of my life, I'm going to be honest with you.
	If I met someone that, you know, provided for me and gave me, you know, we had a good relationship, a healthy relationship, I would definitely settle down.
	Got to be equally yoked.
	Equally yoked.
	Exactly.
	That's true.
	That makes a lot of sense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What about you, Brian?
	True.
	What about me?
	What are we talking about?
	What's your age or your dating age preference?
	Dating age preference.
	Are you even dating anyone, Brian?
	What do you mean?
	I have a relationship with Jesus.
	Are you still a man of God?
	I am a man.
	I'm still a man of God.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	We're working on this.
	I uh, why are you?
	Why are you stuttering?
	I'm thinking of becoming.
	What's the male version of a nun?
	Oh, a prophet.
	A monk?
	A priest.
	Yes.
	I'm going to become a monk.
	Well, a monk's not.
	A lot of Judas.
	He's a pastor.
	Priest, but that's Catholic.
	Pastors have families.
	Yeah, families.
	I'm going to be a.
	What?
	You okay, Maddie?
	Yes.
	I'm going to be a.
	What's the term for there's a term for it?
	Why, though?
	Why do you want to do that?
	You're going to save yourself for Jesus forever?
	I don't believe you.
	Do you think Jesus is coming back?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Like, that's the biblical prophecy.
	That's in Revelation.
	Do you think he would have a wife?
	Like, he comes back and have a wife, you think?
	I don't know.
	Is that part of the prophecy?
	No.
	He wouldn't?
	I mean, he's for sure.
	I mean, he's going to come back.
	He's the Messiah.
	That's Jesus Christ.
	He's going to come back.
	And I also, there's a lot of things that have been coming true in Revelations lately.
	Prophecy.
	Prophecy.
	Yeah.
	So he's coming back for sure.
	Do you think he would take a wife, though?
	Like, would you be in line to slide in his DMs?
	He's Zeus.
	Jesus.
	No.
	You wouldn't hit up Jesus somebody?
	But here's the thing.
	I want to meet Jesus.
	Like, when you know, when you, like, say, like, oh, who would you want to eat dinner with?
	And, like, a pick someone.
	Or like, if you could go back in time, where would you go?
	Like, I would go back and get some.
	Is Jesus your type?
	Nick, can you pull up some photos of that?
	Is Jesus your type?
	We're going to ask the girls if like Jesus is your type.
	But is it like tall, dark hair, can turn one vision too?
	Is he what?
	Wasn't he Middle Eastern?
	Yeah, like he's from Israel.
	Yeah, he's from Israel.
	So he looks like a, you know, okay.
	So, ladies, is like, would you, would you, are you like DTF for Jesus?
	Uh, like, are you down for is this?
	Did he really look like that?
	Okay, that one on the right corner, that white one right there, that looks like well, that's a real man.
	Yeah, okay, because the other is a real man.
	Well, Jesus is also a real man, but that's like a modern man, okay, acting like Jesus.
	Would you guys scroll down a bit, Nick?
	This is hard.
	Oh, pull up Cavaziel.
	Wait, what's his name?
	Didn't Jesus have a wife already?
	You know, the guy from the chosen, is that everything you know?
	No, no, no, the guy from uh Passion of the Christ.
	Oh, look up.
	Uh, what's his name?
	Chat, what's his name?
	Cavaziel, what's his first name?
	I know who you're talking about.
	Chat.
	Passion of the Christian.
	What's his name?
	The guy from Passion of the Christ.
	What's his name?
	Jim?
	Is it Jim?
	Jim Cavaziel.
	Cavizil?
	Yes.
	I thought it was Cavaziel.
	Nick, could you Google Jim Cavaziel?
	Like, JI.
	But that's not Jesus.
	He put the picture.
	Well, he depicted Jesus.
	But he depicts Jesus.
	Jim Cavaziel, Jesus.
	Passion of the Christ.
	Yeah, that one.
	Yeah.
	Scroll down.
	Great job.
	Phenomenal phone.
	Do the one where he's got the crown of thorns?
	Yep.
	There you go.
	No, the blue one?
	Yeah, that.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Click that one.
	Right before the crucifixion.
	What do you think, girls?
	Like, is he kind of your type?
	I mean, Jesus Christ was the strongest man to ever live.
	He died for all of our sins.
	Cavizier.
	I was saying that's my type.
	A strong man.
	Like a strong masculine man.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I don't know why I'm doing this.
	Can you also just really quick, Jesus the walking dead?
	What?
	While we're at it?
	What?
	What?
	Just no, just Jesus walking dead.
	Bro, we need to get you some typing classes, Nick.
	We need to up your words per minute.
	Type to learn.
	What about this guy, Jesus?
	No.
	That looks like a Jesus, not a Jesus.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, I don't know how.
	God, I'm always bringing in the conversation.
	you're a man of God um where I anyway You never even went around the table, I don't think, with the relationship.
	Relationships.
	Wait, did you answer?
	Oh, yeah, I did.
	You didn't answer.
	Arby.
	Arbies.
	No, wait, you got the Arby's.
	I've never had Arby's.
	We got the meats.
	Oh, I forgot that was their slogan.
	I think so.
	Yeah, that is their slogan.
	Yes.
	Let me do a couple chats here.
	Jesus.
	I'm not sure if you have this shirt.
	Someone's like, he looks like a bowman.
	My one-year anniversary is tomorrow.
	That's what I'm doing.
	We have Dragonfly Army.
	Peace is no longer an option.
	This is a declaration of war.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm not sure what that's revolution.
	He didn't even kill it.
	It killed itself, right?
	Oh, dragonfly.
	Oh, dragonfly army.
	Oh, dragonfly army.
	Oh, the dragon.
	We had our first dragonfly himself.
	Huh?
	So it was.
	It's a hard goodbye.
	R.I.P. The dragonfly was in therapy, but the point was.
	He had a funeral for like one minute, and then he started twitching.
	Yeah, he had mental issues.
	That's okay.
	It was a blue dragonfly.
	He went to the blue light, too.
	It was attracted to the blue.
	That toxic light.
	That toxic.
	So, wait, we didn't go all the way around on relation.
	Morgan, did you share your relationship with me?
	I've been sick of my shoes.
	Maddie hasn't shared.
	I just shared mine.
	I said I was taken.
	My longest relationship is my current relationship.
	It's one year tomorrow.
	Oh, wow.
	Happy early anniversary.
	That's it.
	So cute.
	Wow.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Yo, shout out to Frankie.
	Frankie is a fucking genius.
	Shout out, Frankie.
	Frankie is the homie.
	I love you.
	He's the homie.
	He's dumb.
	He's the homie.
	And I felt bad when during our last podcast with the American Gladiators, when you were like, well, I know he's the one.
	I'm in love.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	And they're like, that's so cute.
	I was like, Frankie, I didn't say anything, but like, I was like, man, that's kind of mean to say.
	And I was like, no, Frankie, I was going to, in my head, I was like, Frankie's a really good guy.
	And like, I actually do think that you guys are going to go the distance.
	So congratulations on your Brian.
	That was really nice.
	I wish you guys the best.
	You know the shorts that you gave him?
	He's been wearing them for like five days straight.
	Yeah, I've taken on that.
	Yeah, they're really cool.
	He loves them.
	He said, thank you.
	Oh, shout out to Mentality for sending us a bunch of merch.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Okay, so got a couple questions for you guys.
	I know we kind of lingered on the relationship status stuff for a while, and I will circle back.
	I actually want to come back to you really quick.
	So you were in a three-year relationship.
	The guy turned out to be gay.
	Yeah.
	You've been single this entire time.
	You said there's a situation shit.
	Yeah, I had like, I would date casually, but I also wanted to clarify when I date, I will not sleep with you unless I know for a fact that we are, like, we make this like communication that we are only sleeping with each other.
	And that's good.
	Yeah, just because I don't do hookup culture.
	Has that always been your standard, though?
	Like, you've had a one-night stand, I'm sure.
	Never.
	Have you ever hooked up with a guy?
	Not a one-night stand, but the same day or night you met him?
	No.
	Never.
	Yeah.
	I've always had a relationship girly.
	You have morals, and that's very good.
	I have two morals.
	You're very good.
	Hard to find.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	He plays the sus music.
	Brian, what?
	Brian, that's creepy.
	Yeah, I'm a monster.
	Okay.
	You're scared.
	You're scary.
	Everyone's like, cap.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I just prefer the traditional way, you know?
	Yes.
	The traditional way.
	I am.
	We will talk about that.
	Yeah.
	The traditional way here in a bit.
	But so when's the last time you were involved with a guy, whether it was relationship or situationship?
	It was in this April.
	I ended things.
	Like, it was like a year-long situationship.
	Sure.
	And it wasn't, it was such a weird relationship because I even hate saying that word.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	Because I'm not a fan of them.
	Of relationships?
	Of situations.
	Yeah.
	And it was one of those things where I honestly was just, I'm going to be honest, I was delusional.
	I was.
	Just because he would feed me certain things and it was like the whole, he was insecure to be with me because of what, one, what I do for work.
	He didn't like that.
	And two, he didn't like that.
	I was like super in the gym and he wasn't.
	What do you do for work again?
	I stream on, I'm a video game.
	I stream Call of Duty.
	He didn't like that?
	No.
	Why?
	What?
	He wasn't supportive.
	He just wasn't.
	He wasn't supportive.
	He wasn't supportive.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	Most of my friends are male.
	I game with most of the male.
	I have a couple girlfriends I game with.
	Oh, my.
	Online only, I swear.
	Sure.
	Yeah, sure.
	And we literally just game together.
	And like, I think he also, I'm going to be honest with you, like, on Twitch, it's.
	Scoot your mic.
	Oh, it's blocking?
	Yeah, we just don't want your face blocked too much.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Perfect.
	So if you know, I'm sure you know, streaming, most of your income comes from donations and whatever.
	And most of my donations are from males.
	And I think he had a problem with that.
	I think, can you, you need to scoot your mic, like scoot it to the very edge of the table.
	Yeah, like that.
	Perfect right there.
	Perfect, perfect, perfect.
	So, okay.
	He had an issue with the Twitch streaming.
	But you don't do OnlyFans.
	You're not.
	Okay.
	No, I'm really not sure.
	No Patreon.
	No, okay.
	Yeah.
	So he had an issue with it.
	And then yeah, which is crazy because I'm saying I don't do any of like the exclusive content that most people do.
	So I was like, I feel like I'm PG if anything compared to what other people do these days.
	So but that was like the main thing.
	And then I finally told him, I was like, look, I'm going to be honest with you.
	This has been a year long of off and on.
	And I moved back to LA.
	Haven't seen him.
	Like, I've only seen him like twice since I was here.
	Yo, FDG, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships.
	So you moved back to LA?
	Yeah.
	So you're living in LA now?
	I'm born and raised in LA, but during the pandemic, I moved to San Diego.
	Okay, got it, got it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you're you've been single since April.
	Yeah, but I also, like, I wasn't intimate with him.
	So again, it was me kind of, it was a one-sided relationship.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	One-sided how?
	Because I'm sure in his head, I'm almost positive he was single.
	Have you scoot your mic?
	No, no, no, not you.
	Scoot your mic that way.
	It's just kind of blocking your face a little bit.
	No problem.
	Perfect.
	That's perfect, perfect.
	But I feel like it was one-sided just because, like I said, I literally ended things.
	And three weeks later, I saw he was posting another girl already.
	And like, they're in a relationship.
	Like, they're in a full-blown relationship.
	She lives all the way up north and he lives out here and he flies her out.
	And when he used to tell me, like, yeah, hours too far.
	And hours too far.
	Wait, so when you say it's one-sided, it was one-sided.
	On my end.
	Like, so you were giving more or he was giving more?
	I was getting more.
	Okay, okay, okay, got it.
	But you, you said you were never intimate.
	You guys never had hooked up.
	We were in the beginning when we, when we, um, like the first six months of the situationship, he would come see me every now and then.
	Like a brothel?
	No, no, like a fucking brothel.
	Oh, no, just the way you say you'd come see him.
	No, no, no, we would literally go on dates and we would go to like, we would go to like Nobu.
	We would go, you know, to like just little stuff like that.
	Like, and it was like, it wasn't, it was very nice, you know?
	I'm a country.
	I'm a book in New Orleans.
	Lieutenant donated $101.
	Did you find out you ex was gay?
	Were there any obvious signs you missed what you realized after in hindsight?
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you want to answer?
	I would love to.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So he started.
	So like I said, we weren't really, I'm going to be honest, like I'm not a sexual person.
	When I was younger, I was like, you know, it was my first relationship.
	And it wasn't, you know, it was just like a typical, like, you know, I didn't know any better.
	And when we first moved in together, we only lived together for a year.
	I was cleaning his laundry and I opened one of his drawers and I saw a bunch of fucking sex toys.
	And I was like, okay, seriously, one, we don't use them.
	And two, there was a butt plug in there.
	That's awesome.
	I swear.
	Full-on, like, male lingerie, everything.
	And I asked him about it.
	I confronted him and I was like, male lingerie?
	Yeah, male lingering.
	Like a doctor.
	Like a velvet shit.
	I was like, whoa.
	Like, my mind was blown.
	And keep in mind, I was probably like 20 at this time.
	So I was just like, what is this?
	So then you asked him.
	And I asked him, and he says, oh, I just have like a dark side of me.
	Like, I like to be a little freaky.
	And I was scared to ask you.
	Like, he was just like scared to almost like, like, I thought in my mind, he was scared to ask me to do like things in the bedroom that we weren't normally doing.
	How long were we all together at that point?
	Two years.
	And we slept together a year into a relationship.
	So we waited.
	Yeah.
	So you waited a year, moved in together, found this two years later.
	Yep.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Sounds like a lot of fun.
	Yeah.
	And then the first year.
	We were younger.
	The first boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	I was 18.
	Were you a virgin?
	I was.
	Oh, I mean.
	That makes sense.
	Makes sense, yeah.
	A year's kinda long, though.
	As you're young, if you're a virgin, I'm not.
	And at that point, I really thought I was gonna hold.
	What about you, Morgan?
	Like, how long did you wait?
	Well, like, in the past, depends, but now, I'll wait two years, three years, when there's a ring.
	Right, but in the past, I'm talking in the past.
	I'm all for you.
	There were hookups.
	That's fine.
	In the past.
	In the past, but you've removed her mindset.
	She's walking with God.
	Yeah, but in the past.
	She wants to come with a new identity.
	Right?
	You want to like a moment?
	I mean, I think a year should be bare minimum, honestly.
	Like, even if you're not saving yourself for marriage and you're dating intentionally, you're dating whatever, a year.
	I think a solid three dates.
	Three dates?
	Three dates.
	And you expect a girl to put out for you?
	Wow.
	But you don't want to pay for the first date.
	What are you talking about?
	Whenever a hookup coach exists, people do it in the first day.
	Wait, why does it have to be the girl has to put out for me?
	Shouldn't it, I'm putting out for her.
	But you said you're not paying for the first date.
	So you're not going to pay for dates and then you expect for her to sleep with you on a third date?
	Wait, what does me paying for the date or not paying for the date?
	It just has to do with the relationship.
	It has to do with a mutually beneficial sexual encounter.
	No, because you know it's not mutually beneficial actually because it's harming the woman emotionally.
	Because we talk about disavow, disavow, and erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	I still love you, Morgan.
	But not like in a romantic way.
	Yeah.
	But like in a relationship.
	Okay, but here's the thing.
	If you're not going to marry that woman, okay, then she's now going off to her next relationship with another body.
	Is she not?
	After three dates, she slept with a guy.
	Okay, I've said this before on shows, but my goal, not my goal, but if I sleep with a girl, I'm not interested in a one-night stand.
	I'm not interested in sleeping with a girl just once and never talking to her again.
	So if I sleep with a girl, my intention is for there to be a continuity and for me to continue seeing her.
	So my goal isn't just sleep with a girl once more.
	But why three dates?
	Why three dates?
	Yeah.
	You've spent three one-hour dates with her.
	You know her for three hours.
	I don't have any qualms.
	Like, I think that's, I mean, we can do it sooner, even.
	We could do it the first date.
	We could do it the second date.
	Oh, man.
	Third date.
	My current boyfriend, I actually hooked up with him the very first time we hung out alone.
	I will say, like, you know, it can happen.
	Hookup collegiate relationships.
	No, no, if the man is invested, I think...
	Okay.
	Oh, well...
	Well, you have a different perspective about waiting till marriage.
	So I feel like I can't do it.
	Well, I didn't wait for a moment.
	I mean, some of my old relationships, though, did start with that.
	But I mean, obviously they ended.
	In an ideal world, I 100% agree with you.
	Like, yes, would it be best for people to the first person they ever meet?
	Yeah, I mean, it's very non-like societally conventional anymore.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, and I mean, I think like having family, that's wonderful.
	I'm all for that, but I don't think you.
	But you also don't want to get married.
	Don't want to get married.
	Right.
	I mean, this is very contradictory.
	Maybe like a strong, independent Latina woman might be able to convince me to marry her, but like, you know?
	Like an AOC, big booty Latina?
	AOC.
	Big booty Latina.
	Like in Miami?
	Does she have a big booty?
	I mean, allegedly.
	She's stacked up here, but I don't know about down there.
	Morgan, this is kind of a haram conversation to be having this.
	Do you know who Shawty Bay is?
	Who's Shawty Bay?
	I'm just, I'm just a little bit of a girl.
	So Brian, do you know you don't plan on marriage?
	I mean, Elizabeth, you might be able to talk me into it, but you got to take me on a couple dates for you.
	Do you know what a pastor is?
	Three days.
	Let's go to fucking cheese.
	Japan.
	I don't know.
	You know a lot of Colombia.
	A lot of, like, not a lot of, but a few men in my family have actually been passport bros, and it's come out very successful for them.
	Like, they found the woman that they love.
	They've built the family that they've wanted to.
	They want to come to America.
	That's kind of how you further your life.
	That's true.
	It's like with someone you truly love and that's like your ride or die.
	That's what I believe.
	You know.
	I don't know where were we?
	How did we get here?
	Well, we talk about butt plugs.
	Yeah, your ex-boyfriend.
	But like.
	Was that how you knew he was gay?
	No, so I found out because that was my first suspicion.
	I confirmed.
	What if he wanted to use it on the girl?
	I don't do butt stuff.
	That's like not for me.
	That was a red flag.
	Why do you have a butt plug when you have a but when we don't do that?
	That was the one first time.
	I thought it was.
	Did you believe him when he said like, oh, it's just like my dark side?
	Like, you didn't further?
	And I did, but I undercover Loki investigated.
	So when he was at work, this is like the Snapchat days, right?
	And back then, I had his laptop at the time.
	And this is how I was able to hack onto his Snapchat.
	I was being a little toxica, and I was like, okay, let me just go through his stuff.
	And I literally changed, okay?
	I changed his TV.
	It's so funny about that.
	But I literally went through his stuff and I like opened his email.
	Like I changed his email password because I had his laptop and his email was on there.
	I was like, perfect.
	So I switched the email, changed the password so he couldn't get in while he was at work if he saw I logged in, logged in and I went to the save category.
	Like, because you know how you can save photos?
	I saw.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure you can guess what I saw.
	I saw a lot of digs.
	Oh my God.
	But like, I feel like you would have had to gone a step further to confirm this.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Well, he dressed.
	He was very metro.
	That's why we got along.
	Did he have the lisp?
	No.
	No lisp.
	Not the lisp.
	You know, like the sort of a fet.
	Yeah, he kind of had the mannerisms a little bit.
	Is that your type?
	No, definitely not.
	Definitely not.
	It was a phase.
	You dated him for three months.
	It was a phase.
	I was so young.
	That was my first, like.
	Do you think he was dating you to like?
	I was his beard.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was definitely his beard.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	We were the sugar, like, my cutter life, you know?
	Would you call that you were like in love with her?
	I mean, him?
	That was my first love, but now that I'm older and like I've like dated and experienced other things, I would say that's.
	You're hiding behind the mic again.
	Hiding.
	I think what would help is if you're talk to me, I think it'll help.
	Okay, yeah.
	That's better.
	It's good.
	Yeah, I would.
	But scoot it closer towards you and scoot it this way.
	Like that.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Sorry, what was I saying again?
	It's all you lost.
	Were you in love?
	Oh, yeah.
	So that was definitely like my first love experience, but I've definitely been in like love before after that.
	And it was more of like a, you know, I've experienced love, if that makes sense.
	But I couldn't, I'm honestly, like, now that I think about it, I probably can say I've never really been in love with somebody like that, like deeply.
	Like to where we're spiritually, because you said you were blindsided.
	Very blindsided.
	And I'm not going to lie, it fucked me up a lot.
	I was very cautious.
	Especially now that he's dating like a kid.
	So shortly after you guys ended things, I literally blew up on him.
	I kicked all his shit out of the house.
	And that was it.
	And then did he admit?
	Wait, he did.
	You kicked, like, you threw his shit out of the house.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was sobbing on the floor.
	And my mom and my best friends at the time just came and got all trash bags.
	Got all trash bags and just a bunch of stuff to like just like get everything out as fast as possible.
	Because I was literally like sobbing.
	Like it was, it was.
	You're really.
	Wait, was he paying rent or how he was paying rent?
	To you?
	Well, to, yeah, but like it was a mutual place.
	Was it the one bedroom place?
	It was a one-bedroom.
	Yeah.
	One bedroom.
	At that time, it was like two.
	You were both on the lease?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you were on the lease together?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Were you the primer?
	Were you the master tenant?
	I don't know at that time.
	I think it was like a sublease.
	Like I was just on the lease.
	Like it was.
	Did you move into his place?
	I did.
	Like we moved in together, like to his place.
	But he was living there before you.
	Yes.
	And you moved in and you threw all his shit out?
	Hell yeah.
	I did.
	Hell yeah, I did.
	Because I was providing the home for him to come home to.
	He's working all the time, and I'm providing that home.
	But he was paying the rent, right?
	Yeah.
	When you were sleeping with him, was he sleeping with other guys?
	No.
	Thank God.
	He wasn't, he didn't come out yet.
	He actually didn't really hook up with guys until after I he was able to come out.
	So wait, do you think he was ever going to tell you if you didn't find out?
	Probably not.
	Wait, what prompted?
	So you okay, the throwing his shit out of the house, your shared apartment, it was prompted by the fact that you found out he was gay, correct?
	Yes.
	And what was the like moment you was at the internet thing when you I saw videos and conversations of him like sending dick pictures of other gay guys sending pictures?
	Yeah.
	Maybe he was by.
	That's what we think.
	Like, yeah, me and my mom.
	Sorry.
	I was a little person here.
	Does anybody ever sent him here to discuss?
	Yeah.
	How long was he sending nude images to other men and like, you know, emotionally?
	I mean, at that point, it's basically physically cheating.
	Yeah.
	I never really honestly looked, like, I was just so done and also embarrassed.
	That's why.
	I was very embarrassed.
	Question.
	Would it have been better if it was women?
	Definitely not.
	No.
	I think it would have been honestly.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's kind of.
	Yeah.
	It can be.
	I think cheating's cheating.
	Like, regardless.
	Did it hurt more, honestly, that it was a guy?
	Yes and no?
	Because it's like, also, too, like, I can't change you.
	I'm not going to be the one to change you.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So it's just more confusing mentally if you're not going to be able to do it.
	You're a woman.
	Do you think you wasted your time?
	You learned.
	Because you should learn.
	Did I learn anything from this?
	Yeah.
	And that's why when I hear your story, I'm like, because I was like, you know, you learned so much from relationships.
	What?
	What, Elizabeth?
	What?
	Oh, what?
	I thought you were looking at me in a certain type of way.
	I wasn't.
	Oh, okay.
	What do you think I was doing?
	Don't worry about it.
	Never mind.
	Okay.
	It's all good.
	But, I mean, more of the thing is, like, I mean, it's just like, it definitely built me.
	It changed me.
	Was it shitty at the situation at point in time?
	Yes.
	But I'm so grateful for it because I definitely wouldn't be here if it wasn't.
	You know?
	Everything happens for a reason.
	Yeah, as I said, everything happens for a reason.
	And you learn.
	I don't know if that one isn't everything happens for a reason.
	But can we still learn from every downfall?
	I do want to come back to.
	So you waited a year to hook up with him.
	You've been celibate since April from your one-year situationship.
	Actually, longer than that, but yeah.
	So you were dating.
	Wait.
	When we were like kind of talking in the beginning of the year until April, it was like through the phone.
	So it wasn't like, like, he came to see me a couple times when I moved back, but we weren't intimate.
	It was just to go on dates.
	You were never intimate with the situationship that ended in April?
	Yeah.
	Wait, so when's the last time you hooked up with the guy?
	It's been a while.
	Like, sexually.
	You've been celibate for how long?
	I don't even consider it celibate.
	I just consider it like just saving my energy and just not, you know.
	Saving your energy?
	Yeah.
	I think sexual and sexual interaction is so much energy being exchanged.
	That's why it drains you.
	Spiritually and physically.
	Yeah, I really think so.
	I mean, but that's the way I view sex.
	Some people can do it casually.
	Sex is draining for you.
	I feel like it's a lot of fun.
	Even with the partner that you have.
	I like to see sex as in, I said, a special intimate moment with your person, your partner, right?
	Are your parents watching?
	Is that why you're saying this?
	Your parents are watching?
	No, this is what I believe.
	I don't care if my parents watch or not.
	It's just what I per what this is what I believe.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, you're physically giving a part of you emotionally, physically, to that other person.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're tied to that person.
	So you don't believe his life.
	Don't believe what?
	Can I go get my glasses?
	No.
	You must remain blind for the remainder of the show.
	It's hurting my head.
	Wait, are you don't, what?
	Are you trying to read the there's nothing?
	No, I just like I can't like it really hurts to like see you.
	What's your correction level?
	You got contacts?
	What's up?
	No, I have glasses.
	You don't have contacts?
	No, because it got messed up.
	Like, I put them on and they were blurry.
	I guess they got me the wrong prescription.
	I actually prefer people viewing me in like a semi-blurry stage.
	Yeah.
	Because then you look like a 10.
	I look, yeah.
	I've got a little acne occasionally.
	You know, I got some wrinkles.
	I can't really see your imperfection.
	So like, it's almost like you got beer goggles on right now.
	So you're just like, wow, this guy's a little bit more.
	Okay, Brian, it's okay.
	You're a 15 out of 10.
	You're fine.
	Okay.
	I don't know if that's how math works, but we can show ratios.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, gosh, ratios.
	Okay, so you've been celibate for a minute.
	Yeah, by choice.
	The last guy you were with, you say you wait how long?
	I'm going to be honest with you, because after hearing your thing, I said, if the vibe is there, it's there, but I haven't had a guy where the vibes are there.
	You've never had the vibe.
	No, I've never had the vibe.
	Zero vibes.
	There's zero vibe.
	The vibes are gone.
	It's terrible.
	It's just all about, like, I feel like, also, too, guys, just like target girls that look a certain way, I feel like, because they just want to date you because you're hot.
	That's true.
	Or just hate yourself.
	I wouldn't date you because you're hot.
	I would date you for how kind you are for your whole life.
	It should be the inside.
	I would date you for your sick gaming montages and skills.
	I would date you for all the things you bring to me that are definitely not of a physical or sexual nature.
	The truth is, like, a guy doesn't actually care about that.
	You're lying.
	You know, I almost believed you there for a second work.
	If he's immature and doesn't know what to draw, it's different.
	A guy doesn't care about a girl's accolades.
	He's okay-based mortgage.
	I agree with that.
	I absolutely agree with that.
	He doesn't.
	A guy would marry.
	If there was a server at a restaurant, no hate to servers if you're a restaurant server.
	But if a woman does a server at a restaurant and this guy is like some multi-millionaire, but she's loyal to him and wants to be with him and will do anything, be a housewife, whatever he wants, he will marry her more than another woman that has millions of dollars and a PhD from Columbia.
	A guy doesn't care.
	Unless you do OnlyFans.
	Yes.
	That's true.
	I did actually ask a bunch of college guys this at Arizona State University last week.
	I said, would you date a girl with an OnlyFans?
	And I would say it was about 80% of guys said no, but the ones that said yes were very much low-value men.
	Like they weren't high-value men.
	There was this one guy in particular that told me he would actually show her off.
	And I was like, so you would be okay with your potential girlfriend selling her body on the internet for other men and you would show her off because you think she's like a trophy.
	And I was, but that, again, like that doesn't make him a high-value man.
	That just grows.
	Right?
	He would be okay with showing her off.
	Yeah.
	Like there was a guy that wanted to date a girl, would date a girl with an OnlyFans because it makes him look cool.
	Like look at my girlfriend.
	He would ask his girlfriend's boyfriend's permission to show his girl off.
	His girl off.
	Who has an OnlyFans?
	Good times.
	Good times.
	But yeah, moral story is like, you know, you said guys don't care about really what a girl does.
	I know.
	Being a little bit jokey, you know, but, you know, all right.
	Good times.
	I don't know where we were going with that.
	Yeah, where are we going?
	We were.
	Somewhere.
	We were talking about the vibe.
	The vibes, yeah.
	Oh, I saw on your, I don't know if it was your Instagram or maybe your kick.
	You describe yourself as Toxica.
	Toxica.
	What is that?
	Oh my God.
	So that's like my that's like my that's my yeah I like it.
	Thank you.
	That's like my brand.
	So honestly like when I play video games, I turn into a different person.
	I'm like I'm honestly I'm not gonna I'm pretty good at video games.
	I'm not gonna lie pretty good.
	I am okay.
	I'm a demon and I get a little passionate when I'm playing, so I scream, curse a little, I rage in relationship.
	Are you toxic in relationships?
	Only if they want me to?
	Brian, you think every Mexican girl is toxic?
	Yeah, is it?
	What is it?
	Is it because I'm Latino?
	You literally had it in your kick, or your?
	Was it your Instagram?
	Or your chip plays games?
	Yeah, that's in your description.
	Huh, you didn't answer my question.
	What was your question?
	Do you think like, every Latina is toxic?
	Okay no no, I don't think so.
	But I mean, is there is a stereotype?
	Right, there is.
	Yeah, like this fiery Latina woman, you know, I think it's.
	More of a passionate.
	I'm a passionate lover.
	I think I don't believe there's like something innately in Latino, like I think that's just like cope to justify shitty behavior.
	Yeah like, oh well, you should just deal with my shitty behavior because I happen to be Latina.
	No, shut the fuck up, anybody can be toxic.
	Like, we don't need that shit.
	Yeah yeah, I actually agree with that.
	When it comes to relationship stuff yeah, I think it's all about culture as well.
	Like where you come from, like your culture is very different, like you know.
	Yeah, Yeah okay, damn okay.
	Um, so wait, hold on.
	I got some notes here we have.
	Okay, let's talk about that really quick.
	So you, earlier you said, and in your pre-show notes to us you said you're traditional very, very traditional.
	You said old school values yes, you say.
	You said you come from a traditional family, so I have very old school.
	Excuse me, I have a very old school.
	Geez, I can't speak right now.
	I have a very old school view on dating and I feel like I'm one of the rare ones that are still like that.
	Yeah, so a couple questions.
	Um, what do you mean by rare ones?
	We're like the same.
	I mean, I'm gonna just say, because social media is such a spectrum, you know, like it's you're seeing, for what you see, obviously it's not gonna represent the entire world, but from what I've seen on social media, I see girls that are promoting like and it's not even me being a hater, it's just like the whole like, for example, like OnlyFans thing, or the whole like the.
	I think feminism is actually a little bit toxic in a sense of because like, feminism promotes that, it's like feminism all of a sudden is like, oh, you show your hoo-ha.
	Cool, you're feminine, but women's empowerment.
	All of a sudden it's not empowerment, it's completely more delusional and it gets me out.
	But but it's true, I just I think traditional, like I'm just a traditional girl, like I believe like, in what ways are you traditional?
	Um, I personally believe, like as soon as I become a wife, I am, my husband is my leader.
	He is there to guide me and my family and I'm his.
	Can you just tilt the mic down towards you a little bit?
	Uh, that was a little too much.
	I think a little less perfect.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Your husband, yeah.
	So I think like Again, like once I find my husband, he is my, I'm pretty much indebted to him.
	Like, I take care of the, I take care of the kids.
	I take care of him.
	I make sure he's okay.
	I make sure if he's getting up in the morning to go to work, I'm getting up at 4 a.m. to make sure he has a hot breakfast.
	And that's what my mom did for my dad.
	Your wifey material is what this is.
	This is good quality.
	She's good.
	And I just, I would.
	Would you marry her, Elizabeth?
	I would marry you, girl.
	Wow, okay.
	I do feel like it's very, it's really rare.
	And it is someone who's like, wait, what else?
	Keep the list going.
	Keep the laptop.
	Yeah, laundry done.
	You want me to wash your toilet stains?
	I'll do it.
	But also, too, you better be providing for me when I need to make sure.
	Like, I'm not saying I want a fucking Bentley.
	I want proda bags.
	I just want to make sure that I'm comfortable.
	And every single day I wake up knowing that I'm protected and safe.
	Yes.
	I agree.
	Toyota minivan.
	Is that cool?
	I mean, I agree with you.
	I don't know about the minivan.
	Can we just get a little bit more?
	The Camry at least.
	What's wrong with the minivan?
	I don't like minivans.
	Minivans are coming out.
	How many kids are we pumping out?
	Seven.
	Seven.
	You're going to need a Mercedes Sprinter for that.
	Okay, we're getting a spring.
	Honestly, minivans.
	Some dynasty shit.
	We can't have two kids.
	What if they die in the fields or something?
	Oh, my God.
	No, no, no.
	No.
	That wasn't like a, that wasn't like, I meant like, I know what you mean.
	We're going to live on a farm.
	It's going to be a farm.
	It's going to be a homestead.
	They're going to be working.
	You know, they're going to be.
	They're going to be milking cows.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Homesteads are in right now.
	It's got canceled right there.
	Homemaking country.
	But it's okay.
	You're good.
	Yeah.
	So, like, but I don't know.
	I just feel like that's like the biggest thing for me.
	Okay.
	But I don't know.
	It's just like, that's to me being traditional.
	But also, too, it's like everybody wants that life and you say that, but it's so much more than just being a housewife and being cute in your cute little Pilates outfit.
	It's so much more than that.
	Because I've seen it.
	Like I said, I saw my mom do it for us.
	Like, and it's just, I would thrive to be in a relationship like my parents would.
	My parents are in against that.
	That's what I say about my parents as well because I think upbringing is so important.
	Because you're kind of shaped by the way your parents raised you.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And the relationship with my parents.
	It's about the nuclear family and having an actual mother and a father in the household is super important because you're raising the next generation.
	I love the old-fashioned stuff.
	So basically, my dad's an alcoholic.
	He really, we moved to apartment to apartment because my dad couldn't contain his financial things.
	And my mom was the one always there for us.
	Like my dad really just was working, came home, and that really didn't have a relationship with us like a dad should.
	He had more of a relationship with my sister.
	That's why my sister's like a daddy's girl.
	And then I'm more of like a mommy's girl because my mom was always there for me.
	My dad was just kind of like, we, you know, I obviously couldn't talk to him about like personal stuff or like what I'm, you know, what actually is going on with my life.
	It was on and off.
	My mom left my dad for a couple months and then she came back with him and then she we moved and then we moved back and then we moved to Mexico for four years when I was in high school because we couldn't afford rent.
	Yeah.
	Kind of sounds like your current relationship.
	See, it goes back to what I said before.
	It goes back to what relationship your parents had when you were a kid.
	Yep.
	The way you were raised, I think that wasn't true.
	That's so important.
	What was that?
	And that you like kind of see your parents and that's kind of how you imagine a relationship.
	It's kind of like what do you think this is what love should feel like.
	I feel like because your parents are like raising you.
	They shouldn't.
	I mean look at fatherless homes and the women that are coming out of fatherless homes are most likely going to be on OnlyFans or going to go into things because they didn't have an actual leader in the household showing them what was good.
	But hold on.
	So you're saying that you grew up in a kind of toxic environment and that has been a blueprint, a framework for your current relationship.
	Yeah.
	Perhaps even previous relationships.
	Perhaps it might even be the case for your future relationships.
	But you are not beholden.
	Like, if it's your, but like, I feel like you're using it.
	You're using it as justification to remain in your toxic relationship.
	Like, well, this is, I just kind of have this ingrained in me, and I guess I have to be in a toxic relationship because my parents had a toxic relationship.
	Oh, I never said that, I think.
	But you are not, you are not chained to the relationship dynamic.
	You have to actually break my cycle.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I know.
	You should learn to break the cycle.
	You gotta go cold turkey, son.
	Cut this taper shit off.
	This isn't the Mercedes clinic.
	You can start fresh.
	This isn't a fed.
	I'm gonna open up an extremely expensive and in fucking Malibu rehab facility for women in toxic relationships.
	You'd make bang.
	But I need to taper off.
	No, motherfucker.
	We're putting you in there and then no confidence.
	We're gonna sing Kumbayan.
	I don't know what the fuck we do in rehab.
	I don't know.
	I've never been to it.
	Yeah, I mean.
	Have you, anybody here been to drug rehab or anything?
	No.
	Morgan?
	No.
	Morgan?
	No, I'm kidding.
	Okay, so.
	Wait, what?
	Okay, I don't know.
	Traditional relationships.
	Traditional relationships.
	Okay, so you're traditional.
	Yeah.
	That's the new question.
	Wait, so okay.
	And previously we're talking about like, well, in my past relationships, I waited really long before sleeping with the guy.
	So I'm going around the table on this.
	How long do you think you should wait before hooking up with a guy?
	I think if the vibe is there and you guys communicate that, like I said before, that you were both only with each other, then we're good.
	Yes, yeah, same.
	So if the vibe was there by the third date.
	What is it within the third date?
	I know.
	It's always like a date.
	I think that's a good.
	I think so too, though.
	Yeah.
	It's just more comfortable.
	It's a good.
	And if it's for you, that's fine.
	Well, it could be the second date.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it could be the second date.
	It could be the first.
	You never know.
	Yeah.
	You never say.
	It's a feeling.
	I think you would know when you communicate the feelings and there's this whole thing.
	It's mutual.
	And then you can move on from there.
	You never know.
	I mean, it's your opinion.
	Like, whatever you think is right for you.
	First date, yeah.
	Kidding.
	Wait, it's okay.
	You think what?
	I think it just depends on the person.
	Like, everybody has a different opinion on things.
	Like, you know.
	Sure.
	Well, okay, let me.
	I want to add a little extra thing to this.
	Okay.
	What's the quickest also that you've ever done?
	Three months?
	We're talking consistently?
	Three months?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about, well, you claim virgin?
	No.
	Zero.
	Don't know.
	Next person.
	You're being a little evasive there, Elizabeth.
	Is there something you want to reveal?
	What?
	What are you doing?
	Are your parents still watching?
	Mom and dad.
	Mom and dad.
	Mrs. and Mrs. Wynn.
	Is that how you say your last name?
	Yeah, that's how you say my last name.
	Is it Wynn or Nguyen?
	Wynn.
	It's Wynn.
	It's Wynn.
	It sounds like W-I-N. Wynn.
	Mr. and Mrs. Wynn.
	Please turn off the stream right now.
	Okay, tell us, what's up?
	There was some like hunky ice skater dude.
	Come on, behind the piece.
	Do you think ice skating dudes?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Come on.
	No, no, no.
	You said most of them are homosexual.
	They are.
	Okay, Madison.
	You said that too.
	Well, I didn't.
	I didn't.
	I said gay.
	You said you said it like very.
	I think Madison's got a little bone to pick.
	Okay.
	So how long do you think you should wait?
	What's the quickest you've ever waited?
	I think it just depends on you.
	Okay, and what's the quickest you've ever couple months.
	Probably.
	Stop the cap.
	No fucking way.
	No fucking day.
	I think, no, no, no.
	I think like the fifth date.
	Like definitely.
	The fifth date.
	Yeah, like fourth day of life.
	Your current toxic boyfriend.
	How long did you wait with him?
	Like, did you do the first date?
	No.
	That was the first date for sure.
	Come on.
	No, because I didn't go to his house until a couple weeks later.
	So second date?
	No, definitely like fourth and fifth.
	Oh, fourth.
	Because the thing is, like, at the time, I was living in San Diego and he was in LA, so I didn't really see him that much.
	It was medium distance.
	Yeah.
	So fourth date?
	Yeah.
	Is there second date?
	No.
	First date.
	Well, our second date was, it was even like.
	I shouldn't say date.
	We went to Disneyland.
	First, like first time meeting, second time meeting, third time meeting.
	What's the quickest?
	Like fifth time.
	Fourth time meeting.
	You got to pick one.
	Fourth, fifth?
	Fifth.
	Well, you said fourth.
	We'll just say fourth.
	Okay, fourth.
	Okay, fine.
	Morgan, what about you?
	I think that a woman, like, okay, society-wise, I think a woman should hold out as long as physically possible because as soon as you add sexual intimacy into a relationship, a situation ship, it just completely complicates things.
	So like society-wise, like ladies just wait, and you know, a man will chase after you and court you if that's actually somebody you want to be with.
	And but also in marriage, a woman should never withhold sexual intimacy from her husband.
	Faith-wise, I think a woman and a man should wait until marriage for that intimacy.
	I mean, that includes like oral too.
	Like I don't think a woman or a man, like they're when you're going into a marriage, you can learn that and you don't need to do that.
	Have I done it in the past?
	Yes.
	Like I am not a virgin.
	And I will always say that and be open and honest with a partner about that.
	And also I would like my partner would be honest with me of where he's at.
	But when going into a marriage, as I've gotten older, I've realized like that just clouds everything.
	And traditionally, you just don't need that.
	But I also am dating for marriage.
	I'm not dating just for fun.
	And I'm expecting to be engaged.
	Like, I mean, after a year to a year and a half, like be engaged.
	Well, yeah, I mean, you're walking a different path now.
	And you brought up an interesting point.
	Like, in marriage, the wife should not withhold sex.
	Well, Madison, I want to have you answer the original question.
	I think it obviously depends.
	Wait, Madison, you're hiding too much from the.
	Personal experience, I've never been, like, I've never been, I was never introduced to the fact that like you had to wait or like waiting was better.
	So I can't really say, like, I don't know, the fastest I've done it was like first hangout.
	Yeah, you said, yeah, the first.
	And relationships can grow from that.
	And I think that you can also learn with that person.
	Like, I luckily got the great side of it.
	Yeah.
	Pat's.
	Yeah.
	You got a good guy.
	I mean, of all my long-term relationships, it's like I've had a five-year relationship, two-year, one-year, one-year.
	It was pretty early on for all of them.
	I'm pretty sure either the second, by the second or third hangout, we hooked up.
	And I don't think, so long as you're both interested in pursuing something long-term, I don't think it's kind of arbitrary.
	But if your standard is like, I'm waiting till marriage, then obviously waiting makes sense.
	But if it's just like sort of this arbitrary thing.
	But also you don't know if you're going to marry that person by a second or third date.
	So then at that point, you're just confusing the relationship and adding a, like for a woman, adding to her body count is really important as if she has to go into another relationship and you don't actually end up together.
	It's more important for a woman than a man.
	Yes.
	I agree.
	I know exactly what you're talking about.
	You know, because if she's going into a relationship, she has a low body count.
	She has three bodies, right?
	And then she dates the next guy.
	And, okay, it's going well.
	They're on the same page.
	They hook up.
	But then all of a sudden they break up six months later.
	And then she goes into another relationship.
	And she's just, you know, at this point, adding more men to her roster.
	Well, now she's creating the inability to have bonds with more and more men instead of withholding a little bit longer.
	Even if it is six months, you know, it's easy.
	You can get to know that guy.
	And if you break up, well, it's okay because you did not have sexual intimacy with that person to where then going into another relationship.
	One, the breakup will be easier because you didn't create that bond with that person in that way when it comes to like, I'm talking like actual having sexual intimacy.
	But then into the next relationship, she is way better off and ready to be in an actual relationship to be married at that point.
	Because what's the point of dating and relationships if it's not procreation and marriage at the end of the day?
	Yes, that's exactly what I believe.
	You've said it.
	So I mean, actually, if you want to have sex, like date three, sure, but I mean, you're just emotionally and physically harming each other if you do not end up with that person.
	True.
	Very true.
	What is your opinion, Brian?
	Have I ever been harmed physically or emotionally by having sex with a woman?
	I think we're talking more about warming the women.
	Yeah, no, no.
	Won't you count obviously matters more for a woman?
	Eric donated $90 million.
	Lady in black, stop using vibe because that's just code for attractiveness.
	Gold medalist, fly to Germany and see that dude.
	Toxic relationship, fix yourself and leave him.
	Morgan, you are legit.
	Madison, congrats to you and Frankie.
	What, nothing nice for me?
	You know what's funny, though?
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	The whole attractiveness thing.
	I've been told that I've dated guys that are way below my league.
	Girls, I'm just saying.
	I'm just saying.
	Because I do not care about what you look like is it.
	Can you show after the show?
	I want to see your exes because I got it.
	You wouldn't, you would be mind-blown.
	Well, it's crazy because guys who, you know, below a more attractive girls league are more likely to actually chase after the more attractive woman because the really good looking like Chad dudes aren't necessarily going to go after the super attractive girls because they're insecure.
	They're insecure.
	Yeah.
	It's a double-ended sword, though.
	True.
	Because, I mean, they're ugly guys that never got girls in high school and then it's like kill the chealer.
	They date girls that are really pretty because they're taking revenge out of like, they didn't date me, so I'm going to like, you know, do this to her, do this to her.
	You know, it just depends on the guy, to be honest.
	He can be ugly and he can be a really nice guy.
	He can be ugly and be a really bad guy.
	That is true.
	You know?
	Yeah, I mean, bringing it back to Eric's super chat here talking about the vibe.
	I think it really ultimately does come down to the physical attractiveness has to be there to begin with, I think, for their.
	I mean, obviously, can the guy be charismatic?
	Can he be confident?
	Can he be funny?
	Can that make him more attractive?
	Absolutely.
	But I think because there's also this thing where behavior that a woman would otherwise find flirtatious, if the guy's not attractive, she's going to label it as creepy.
	True.
	So, like, the exact same sort of behavior, if it's coming from a guy you're not physically attracted to, it's going to be framed as like creepy.
	But, like, a guy you're attracted to doing the exact same shit, you're like, oh, flirting.
	So it's like, I don't know, the vibe's kind of like a lot of people.
	No, it depends.
	It depends on the approach.
	Yeah, yes.
	Of course, there's like clearly creepy shit that even if he's attractive, it's like, whoa.
	Okay.
	Hey, do you want to come check out my knife collection?
	Actually, I think some chicks might be a little bit more attractive.
	Actually, they're kind of funny.
	Okay, there you go.
	Neither kind of firearms today.
	Wait, what?
	I was approached today at Chipotle.
	Tell us about that.
	And he wasn't like attracted.
	Like, I definitely wasn't attracted to him.
	Like, not someone I would physically go for.
	Get your girl Frankie.
	Frankie.
	I was alone.
	Wait, what, Nick?
	Yo, go.
	So basically, I was like, he had like six friends with him.
	So it was like him and his six friends.
	And I was like.
	You were alone?
	I was alone.
	Like right before I came here, I was walking out of Chipotle and he like walks up to me and he's like, Oh, like, you're very pretty.
	And I was like, Oh, thank you so much.
	Like, I hope you have a great rest of your day.
	And then he was just like egging it on.
	He was like, I play basketball, like, all this stuff.
	He's like, You should come to one of my games.
	Like, can I get your Instagram?
	And then he was just like, I had like cool conversation with him, but I wasn't like giving ideas that I was attracted to him.
	He was like, Can I get your Instagram?
	I was like, No, I have a boyfriend.
	Oh, yeah, that's awesome.
	And then he was like, Oh, well, you and your boyfriend should come to my basketball games.
	And then I was like, Let's keep a genuine.
	He turned it into like, he was still trying to get him.
	I was fucking with you.
	I wasn't a genius.
	That's like, what's your boyfriend got to do with me type of shit?
	Yeah, yeah.
	What's your man got to do with you?
	Probably never going to go to one of his basketball games.
	It was just like a nice conversation.
	Like, it wasn't, like, creepy or anything.
	Even when he wasn't, even though he wasn't attractive, it was a good conversation.
	He was just not, yeah.
	Are you trying to say something?
	What?
	You don't like what?
	No.
	Is this a race?
	Are you racist?
	Ryan, you're always just trying to frame me.
	No.
	I kind of am, though.
	You always do.
	Okay.
	So.
	Wait, so okay.
	He approaches you.
	You're so beautiful.
	Like that.
	He was just like.
	What did he say?
	You're very pretty.
	That's it?
	Like, just pause and then was waiting for a response?
	Yeah.
	And you said what?
	And I said, oh, thank you.
	Like, I hope you have a great rest of your day.
	Because I was like, getting in my car.
	That's where he should have ended it.
	Wait.
	So he was in line behind you at Chipotle.
	No, I was walking out of Chipotle getting in my car.
	And they were outside of the Chipotle.
	Okay.
	And his six friends were just standing there watching us conversate.
	So I was like, were they quiet?
	That's a little weird.
	Yeah.
	And then.
	So he didn't come up to you.
	He was still in his friend group.
	And then he, like, and then he left his friends to approach me, but we were all still standing within like 10 feet of each other.
	So, okay, they overheard.
	So, okay, and then you say, thank you, have a good day.
	And then what did he say again?
	He was just like, oh, like.
	By the way, I play basketball.
	You want to know like the exact conversation we had?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He was like, oh, where are you from?
	I was like, oh, I'm from San Diego.
	And he was like, oh, cool.
	Like, I was just in San Diego.
	Like, I went out downtown.
	It was really fun and everything.
	And I was like, yeah, I love San Diego.
	Look how bored she is.
	She's not as low.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry, sorry.
	It's your vision because you have to like.
	Yeah.
	No, and then he was just like, oh, like, I play basketball too.
	Like, do you go to like the CC?
	And I was like, yeah.
	And he was like, oh, yeah, I go to CC.
	Like, I play basketball.
	You should come to one of my games.
	Can I get your Instagram before you leave?
	And then I was like, oh, no, sorry.
	I have a boyfriend.
	Actually, no, I didn't say sorry.
	I never say sorry.
	I have a boyfriend because I'm never sorry that I have a boyfriend.
	But I was just like, I have a boyfriend.
	And he was like, come to me.
	And he was just like, and then he goes, that's harmless.
	Like, he literally did that.
	That was very harmless.
	Like, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you then.
	I think he's respectful.
	That's flattering.
	That's respectful and flattering.
	There's a line between the two.
	I just want to sign, you know, be flat, like flatter a girl, and then there's like, versus do more, you know?
	Yeah, and then he respects her.
	You said you had a boyfriend, he respected the boundary.
	He's like, oh, yeah.
	Yeah, and he was like, oh, you and your boyfriend should come to my basketball games.
	And I was like, maybe.
	And then his friend started laughing and was like, ha ha, maybe.
	And then they all walked away.
	Yeah, that's chill.
	That's fun.
	Yeah, I mean, I just thought it was funny.
	Like, he was like, oh, you're very pretty.
	And you're like, thanks.
	And he's like, so I play basketball.
	What's up?
	You know, it's kind of like, check out my Ferrari.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Wait, where were we?
	We were talking about you being traditional.
	Yes.
	I don't know how we got.
	Because we were talking about.
	Oh, we were going around the table, like, how long you should wait.
	Okay, okay.
	So, traditional.
	Traditional.
	Traditional.
	You do traditional things.
	I do.
	If I were to.
	Allie, right?
	Yeah.
	If I were to propose to you, right, with a ring.
	Oh, my God.
	There's a light.
	That's so beautiful.
	She has a light.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	The whole $30 on Amazon.
	Why do you propose to like everyone?
	You were proposing to me last time.
	Yeah, but now you got a boyfriend.
	What's up, you fucking cheater?
	You know what?
	What do you mean, I'm just a little bit?
	You're a cheater.
	How dare you?
	You broke my heart.
	We were engaged, and now you're dating some fucking German Chad who's got way more followers than me.
	You've crushed me.
	You crushed me, Elizabeth.
	I am heartbroken.
	I'm going to need therapy.
	I'm going to go see her therapist.
	My life is over because of you.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I don't know what to say.
	You ruined everything.
	How could you?
	I thought we had something.
	I fucking thought we had something, Elizabeth.
	And how dare you backstab?
	How dare you?
	I'm hurt.
	You know what?
	Someone said, like, right after that podcast, you were rising up another girl.
	So who was I rizzing?
	Who did I rizz?
	I don't know.
	Someone said, oh my gosh, Brian cheated on you or something on the next episode.
	I don't have risk.
	I have zero games.
	You like give the ring to everybody.
	What do you mean?
	No, what do you think?
	I haven't done the ring thing.
	Madison, I haven't done the ring thing in a long time, right?
	Yeah, Manis as he does his options.
	Yeah, but he got his mindset on it.
	This is the first time hearing about this fucking new guy.
	I thought for the past two months, we were, I thought we had a like a non-communicative.
	I haven't talked to you.
	I haven't talked to you in two months.
	But I thought we were like engaged and shit.
	And now I find out tonight on the fucking stream that you're cheating on me.
	What the fuck, Elizabeth?
	Wow.
	You think the thing with you and your boyfriend is weird?
	We haven't even talked in two months.
	That's weird, son.
	I've just been busy.
	I'm so busy.
	We're busy.
	So I thought that's what it was, that we're so busy.
	And then you thought we were engaged.
	And I find out you're dating this dude.
	He can't give you, what does he have that I don't?
	Elizabeth, what does he have that I don't?
	Riz.
	Besides way more followers on Instagram.
	Riz, because you said you have.
	Yeah.
	He has Riz.
	No, I don't want to say that.
	I don't know.
	Wait, but we're engaged now.
	Oh, we are.
	So you're traditional.
	Do you take my last name?
	Yeah.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	If it's not cute.
	If I decide that I want my kids to be homeschooled.
	Oh, I want to homeschool my kids.
	I'm not.
	Or private school.
	I'm not putting my kids in public school, especially the way things are going.
	Let's say we have a disagreement on something.
	As head of the household, do I have final say?
	See, there's, it comes when it, if it's a sense of morals and you're guiding me, okay, sure.
	But if it's like an argument, like a normal, like, come on, we're a couple.
	We argue.
	Like, it's normal.
	We don't argue everyone.
	Oh, we don't.
	We never argue.
	We're perfect together.
	You, you, it's going to be pent up for you.
	You hold that shit in, and then the week goes by and you're like, eh, whatever.
	It's not a big deal.
	I don't know.
	I feel like everyone's different, obviously.
	No, no, no, no.
	Zero quarrel.
	Zero quarrel.
	Just hold it in.
	You're going to have to, maybe once a year, I'll allow like a boil up from all the pent up aggression.
	No.
	Once a year, I will allow an argument.
	See, but that's not leading the household.
	That's toxic.
	Yeah, that's not a good idea.
	No, no, no.
	That's like a dictator.
	I know.
	Yes.
	Our relationship, our marriage is a dictatorship.
	Yeah, totally.
	It's a dictatorship.
	Okay.
	I don't know if I signed up for that.
	It's too late.
	Now, this is a dictatorship.
	Stockholm syndrome.
	Let's go.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	So.
	Submissive.
	Traditional.
	Traditional.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to think of what other ways one could be traditional.
	Okay.
	Let's pull up your.
	I had a question.
	Because you said you're like waiting for you're not waiting for marriage, but you would sleep with someone after a year.
	What's preventing you from that?
	Because it sounds like you are religious.
	You do have all these traditional morals, these values, homeschooling.
	These are very biblical, traditional, traditional things, and society traditional.
	So what's, you know, why, why not wait for marriage then in that case?
	Or like, how quickly would you get engaged?
	Because you had a year.
	Would you get engaged that quick?
	If I'm in love, yeah.
	And if it's the right man, totally.
	I'm not against it.
	I just, I just know right now, it's just not, like I said, like dating is so hard.
	It's really hard.
	So finding a good guy, finding a good quality guy.
	It's really hard.
	It is rare.
	Very rare.
	The masculine.
	Yes, it is rare.
	Is it though?
	There's a lot of guys who are intimidated by women who are actually strong and want more traditional things.
	Because there are men that want traditional things out there.
	But some guys are scared of that because they're like, oh, she actually knows what she wants.
	Oh, she wants to raise a family.
	She wants to homeschool.
	Because I am the same.
	I want to homeschool.
	I want to have a family.
	I want to be a wife and a mother full-time.
	That is a full-time job.
	And men also want that, but sometimes when they're younger, they're like almost unaware.
	They're like, oh, you like, I need to provide for these things.
	And you're like, yeah, and I will provide back.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, from a financial approach, I feel like a guy's not going to.
	Okay, let's say a guy goes to college, right?
	That's four years.
	So he's 21, 22, by the time he gets out of college.
	So certainly not between the ages of 18 to 21.
	He's like ready to have kids, right?
	Right.
	But I mean, could he be settled there?
	In the Christian community, it is.
	Yeah, I was going to say, I could be married right now and have a kid.
	And like, of course.
	What went wrong, Morgan?
	No, I'm kidding.
	What went wrong?
	Actually, like, nothing.
	Okay, you're telling.
	I mean, I have a feeling I'll be married probably by the time I'm like 28, have my first kid.
	Am I invited to the wedding?
	To the wedding?
	I plan to have a big wedding, so sure.
	If we're still good, I'll make the future one.
	I mean, I'm still single, so.
	What if somebody, like, can I be, like, if somebody, a male, saw you on the whatever podcast, and then he slid into the, do you check your DMs?
	I do.
	I have to.
	Did you get a lot of DMs?
	I did, actually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I've gotten some.
	Hey, I saw you on the podcast.
	Any prospects?
	No.
	Not yet.
	Nothing.
	Nothing good.
	Nothing good.
	So we got to keep working on it.
	I want to be the best man.
	Oh, Batman.
	Well, okay.
	If they come to me.
	If they met you from the whatever podcast.
	Can you arrange that?
	Yeah.
	You have to bring her, though.
	We should be your bridesmaid.
	Yeah, could I be a bridesmaid, maybe?
	Oh, bridema?
	That might be a strange question.
	What if I identify as a woman?
	That doesn't matter.
	I don't use it.
	You know, you can identify as a woman.
	And you're definitely not invited to her wedding.
	You can have not invited to that wedding.
	you want to identify as whatever you want to identify it sure but like not not gonna fly Woman?
	Yeah.
	No, not going to fly.
	What about is Blair White coming to your wedding?
	I don't know Blair personally.
	You don't know Blair?
	No.
	Who's Blair?
	Would she be a bridesmaid?
	No.
	At the wedding?
	Okay, I don't know where I'm taking that there.
	Okay.
	So.
	But sure, Brian.
	You can come to my fictitious wedding.
	No.
	Or derbs.
	Or derbies.
	Crab cakes.
	Maybe.
	I do love seafood.
	Open bar.
	No, though.
	I will have a champagne toast only wedding.
	There will be champagne only.
	I do not want drunk people at my wedding because I also have children.
	Wow.
	You have to promise me.
	There will be crab cakes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I like that.
	What about lobster rolls?
	You know exactly what?
	I love lobster rolls.
	Dude, go to wedding.
	You would rather do crab cakes and lobster rolls?
	Oh, yeah.
	Listen, you have to promise me that there will be crab cakes at your wedding, whether I am there or not.
	Well, you just said you have to be there.
	That's right.
	Have to be there if it's somebody who's watched exactly and crab cakes.
	I'm trying to.
	I'd be down for crab cakes.
	I've never had them.
	What is that?
	A crab cake?
	Yeah, crab cakes.
	Like a Mexican, I don't know.
	Like, it's an appetizer.
	Yeah, like an appetizer.
	It's like crab.
	Just like with something like it's like crab, breadcrumbs.
	I've grown up in like low self-fried sandy.
	Yeah.
	If you like, I like truffle oil.
	Okay.
	Some parsley.
	So it's like, is it bread underneath?
	It's like crab that's breaded together, breadcrumbs, and it's like put into like a little patty.
	Okay.
	Yeah, they're really good.
	Okay, so Allie, you're a very traditional woman.
	Very traditional.
	However, we need to do a background check on you to make sure that you're actually traditional.
	Don't blame the IG because you have to understand I'm a brand and I have to bring people to my page.
	Oh, wait.
	Speaking of which, Nick, can you then pull up?
	I was going to just ask about modesty.
	Instagram.
	Is it really?
	Are we checking everybody's Instagram?
	You guys wouldn't recognize me.
	Let me see what I'm saying.
	So, oh, wait, before you go.
	Thank you, Doc.
	It's about that time you give her the ring.
	Please take the cash from this TTS and take her to that in slash shout hot dog joint you like to celebrate the engagement.
	Can you say In-NOW Spot Dogs?
	He did say, I think he's an East Coast person, so he's not familiar with In-N-Out, but there's definitely a joke somewhere in there.
	You want to get some In-N-Out after this?
	What's up?
	Boom.
	Sorry, Elizabeth.
	What's up?
	Thank you next.
	What's up?
	Come on.
	Thank you next.
	Speaking of Ariel Grande.
	I was going to say Ariana Grande.
	Wait, are we checking everybody's hand?
	Ryan, I know you were at jealous.
	Oh, guys.
	Wait, what?
	You're getting jealous?
	No, you.
	I'm jealous?
	Yeah.
	I'm not.
	You're jealous now.
	What's up?
	I got a new girl.
	He's taking you in and out.
	I'm taking her in and out.
	She took me in and out last time, guys.
	No, I took the whole team to In-N-Out.
	And I took your parents.
	I paid.
	Wait, did I pay for your parents?
	Oh, no.
	Your parents came.
	Your parents were very nice.
	Yes, they are.
	I spoke to your parents.
	They were very pleasant.
	I think they liked me, right?
	Did they like me?
	They said you were a really nice guy.
	So they really liked you.
	That's a good thing.
	That's a good thing.
	I'm not sure if that's right.
	My parents are strict.
	Var P. Schillo donated $100.
	Brain and Nick eat my R's from the back.
	This can be arranged.
	Nick, how much did you charge for that?
	A couple G's.
	No, it was.
	Didn't we go with it?
	Nick, Madison.
	Was Stay Safe on that?
	No, we went us, Stay Safe, that girl and her dad.
	No, but I didn't go with her.
	Nick, were you there with Elizabeth?
	I had Elzitch from that.
	Oh.
	Oh, yeah.
	Was it Eric?
	Who was it?
	Oh, which one?
	The last.
	We had other people there with us, though.
	I brought.
	Wait.
	I'm trying to remember.
	Right?
	Yo, FDG, thank you for the 50 gifted.
	Wait, was it just me, you, and your parents?
	It was just me, you, and my parents who went to In-N-Out.
	No, didn't we have sounds like a good first thing?
	Yeah.
	Hey, my parents on their birthday, man.
	My parents are there.
	Your parents liked me, I think.
	Wow.
	But not everybody can be like a TikTok dancer.
	Oh, geez.
	It's kind of rigged.
	He's bringing him back.
	Kind of rude, Elizabeth.
	Okay.
	He's making music.
	He's really good.
	I'm sure he is.
	What?
	Nothing.
	Just kidding.
	Okay.
	Let's pull up our dear friend Allie's Instagram page.
	Oh, scroll.
	Why is it at the bottom?
	Scroll to the top.
	Scroll, that's my favorite.
	I love it.
	I don't have a lot, honestly.
	I love it.
	Scroll down slowly.
	So, this is your Instagram page.
	Yep.
	Is that wait?
	Stop.
	The one with the Herman Miller chair.
	Yeah, Herman Miller chair is my dog.
	Like the Herman Miller chair.
	The war chair.
	Herman Miller, honestly.
	There's literally one photo with a chair in it.
	Oh, sorry.
	Oh, like people are.
	I think you're traditional, I think.
	Is that the B or the chair?
	The Herman Miller.
	Is it a B or a C?
	It's a B. Based.
	Okay.
	Is it like the gaming one or like the gaming version?
	It's actually.
	Let's just not talk about the fact that you're like naked kind of thing.
	It's the gaming chair that makes the picture.
	Is this loading Herman Miller?
	Is that underwear or a swimsuit?
	It's a swimsuit.
	It's my e-girl outfit.
	Because that's like.
	Okay, all right.
	Close that out.
	Close that out.
	But I will say this.
	Scroll down.
	Is it the dock?
	Is that you on a dock?
	Yeah, I thought I went to.
	Don't click it, but so that's your ass.
	Wait, hold on.
	Okay, now, Brian.
	I'm all on vacation.
	I'm on vacation.
	Brian, are you going to take that ring back then?
	And then ask again.
	No, but you have to do it.
	Could you reveal it?
	Scroll down.
	Oh, here's.
	It's kind of hard to see.
	Here's the butt.
	I mean, I'm on vacation.
	You know what I mean?
	You know what I mean?
	Wait, and then go to the next one over, Nick.
	The next tab.
	Is it tagged?
	Is that you?
	Yeah, I used to be a big raver.
	I was like a huge rave girl.
	Red flag.
	He said, don't say red flag because I was raving before it was cool.
	When?
	It was fun before.
	How old were you in these photos?
	Those are, I don't know.
	A couple years ago.
	That was during the pandemic.
	That was a drive-up rave.
	That's when I stopped first.
	I'm sure raving's been a thing for a while.
	I've been raving since 16.
	I have never been to a rave.
	I know.
	I'm so like, I think grandma.
	Listen.
	I stopped, though.
	I don't know.
	Look, these photos doesn't really come, like, traditional isn't the first word that comes to mind.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	No, no, I totally get it.
	But yeah, what the picture?
	Let me, if I'm allowed to.
	Yeah.
	So my thing with that is, like I said, like, I look at it as like a brand kind of thing.
	Like, that's my money.
	I financially support myself right now.
	And where I draw the line is obviously exclusive content.
	And that's, I don't do that.
	I don't like to do that.
	It's just because I think it's a little different.
	Because in that sense, you're essentially paying somebody, like saying, hey, send me an ass picture for $5.
	That's like, in my, I think that's prostitution in my mind, you know?
	Sure, that's worse, I suppose.
	Yeah, but you know what I mean?
	And that's like where I draw the line.
	And when it comes to, like, for example, let's say I did meet a man that's like, hey, I don't want you posting photos like that.
	If he's financially supporting me and he's taking care of me, sure.
	Done.
	But what kind of men are you attracting by posting photos like that?
	Yeah, but I don't date anybody from Instagram.
	I don't.
	I refuse.
	I will never date anybody that has.
	But wouldn't you want a man to find you attractive for your own just personality and who you are?
	And, you know, because I feel like that's almost like counterintuitive is you want a traditional man, right?
	Yeah.
	I used to post bikini pictures on my Instagram.
	Now they're completely scrubbed because it's like, I know that that's not the attention that I want to attract.
	And if a man is seeing me on the internet, then I want them to know like that is authentically me instead of having, you know, because it's very easy.
	Sure.
	You know, you're on vacation.
	You want to post it.
	You want to create it.
	You're going to need a different way.
	Right.
	Especially through social media.
	but you know you don't have to put women don't have to put out just for you to get tips and money you know yeah Yeah, totally.
	But that's just like I said.
	It's just, that's me.
	I'm a fitness girl.
	I was a raver girl.
	Like, you know, I never really took Instagram seriously until I started streaming.
	And like, that was a way to promote it.
	But on stream and stuff, like, you know, it's like, it's like, you know, we're there gaming.
	We're just.
	Sex sells.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it does.
	I mean, be honest, it does.
	You'll make more money than exactly what you have on.
	Exactly.
	But I also feel, like I said, if I were to meet somebody, it's probably going to be somebody that I meet on the street or through a mutual or through a family friend.
	I just don't think social, like, especially like you said, what kind of man am I attracting that looks at me like that?
	But like, okay, let's say you meet that guy in that organic way and he's a traditional guy.
	Isn't he eventually going to find, like, find your Instagram or you'll tell him your Instagram and yeah.
	And some guys, like, from my experience, they are cool with it and some aren't.
	And I like I said, I respect like their opinion, you know, just like as if like I was dating someone and they did something I didn't like.
	In a relationship, would you take those down?
	Like if you were just dating a guy and you weren't married, he's not financially supporting you.
	You're just in a relationship out of respect for him.
	If he was like, hey, like you're traditional, I'm traditional.
	Like I don't want my girlfriend on the internet posting like this.
	Would you respect that?
	Probably no, because like you said, he's financially supporting her.
	I wouldn't.
	She's into the guy supporting her like 100%.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But what if he has little qualities?
	That's a little tough.
	I don't think you can be traditional if you can't financially support me.
	Yeah.
	But what if it was like a time?
	Yeah, But before marriage.
	Yeah.
	I mean, even dating, like, I've dated guys that have taken care of me.
	Like, and it wasn't a problem.
	And this is before I started streaming and doing like social media as a job.
	Now that I'm in it and I'm like in it like full force and stuff, like I said, that's probably why I don't want a relationship right now because I'm just trying to make my money and do it while I can while I look like this.
	Because I'm going to be honest with you, this isn't going to look like this forever.
	Yeah, so I think like that too.
	Like, focus on yourself for a while.
	And build a brand, you know, like I said, but are you building a brand based off of your local looks right now?
	Yeah.
	Looks.
	But it's just, like I said, I don't really use Instagram that much.
	My thing is more just like gaming.
	Like if, like I said, like I like to post more like silly clips of me doing stupid shit, like, you know, like raging and stuff.
	I mean, I think you could still make the money, arguably, without having to post or without having to.
	Oh, and I totally.
	And a guy who, you know, wants to date you, who actually respects you for who you are, out of respect for you would also ask that you remove them, you know?
	Because it's like, they're not, it's not only you respecting yourself and being, and I won't even say like fully modest, you know, like there's nothing wrong with like wearing a bikini out and like posting a photo, but it's like the way in which a woman posts a photo that's attracting that like, you know, negative attention.
	And I think if a man is like, hey, you know, I really don't want you posting like this on the internet.
	Like I want you to respect your own body and I respect you for that too.
	It does go back to like she said, it's a brand right now.
	Like she's definitely later.
	Yeah.
	Like you said, you're going to what?
	Get rid of it later?
	Yeah, she's going to like rebrand.
	Like when she finds, you know, she wants to be stable.
	She's going to like, you know, why not build the brand off of who you actually are?
	Because that doesn't work.
	Because I don't, kind of be honest with you, just for personal reasons, I'm sure you know streaming is really dangerous.
	I've gotten docs before.
	And for protection of my family and everything, there are certain things I don't share.
	I don't even use my real name.
	And it's because, like I said, it's different on gaming because gaming, it's like there's a lot of people that genuinely like don't leave their house and they're parasocial and it gets scary.
	So I choose to present myself on social media a certain way, but that is not me.
	That's not Allie.
	I like don't like like I like to keep my personal life completely separate from social media.
	But don't you think it might be an awesome thing?
	It's going to link though.
	Because I believe it's going to link.
	And I will definitely find out.
	So I mean, you might be prepared to take it down once the guy starts financially providing for you.
	But do you think it could be a hindrance to that sort of guy who's prepared to be that provider?
	Totally.
	He's like, might look at your Instagram and say, well, this girl's posting these kind of photos.
	She's not traditional ergo.
	I'm not going to even get involved with her or I'm just not going to give her the traditional treatment.
	Totally.
	I think it goes back to like him knowing her.
	Obviously, they're going to go on dates and know when you perform.
	And that's what I'm interested in.
	Probably by then.
	And be like, you know what?
	She's doing a brand and like it's not going to be forever.
	That's not, she doesn't like that.
	You know, she doesn't like that.
	She's just doing it for the brand because you don't pay my bills, you don't pay my rent.
	I have to do it, you know, somehow because you weren't there when you were going to pay my bills.
	I mean, if anyone could just use that argument, someone could say, I had to prostitute to pay my bills and pay myself.
	It's kind of like the feminist OnlyFans mentality in a sense.
	Like, I know you're not physically selling your body on OnlyFans, right?
	Yeah.
	But you're still putting out in a way that is encouraging the oversexualized society because we live in a very oversexualized society, sex sells, but you're encouraging that to where your viewers are, it gets almost counterintuitive.
	Yeah.
	Well, compare, I mean, it's low on the totem pole comparatively.
	Right.
	Like posting bikini pics and kind of provocative or revealing photos.
	It's not as bad as, for example, like if you're shooting boy or girl content on OnlyFans.
	Totally.
	Totally.
	But like there is still like a subset of men who's going to be like, that's probably going to.
	But I also think it's the way in which a woman also posts on the internet.
	Because there's like very more respectful poses like a woman could do, you know, if she in a bikini.
	You know, there's ways on which it will look more classy versus like, hey, I'm showing off my body.
	I have one more photo to pull up from.
	Wait, can you go back to the tagged Instagram, I think?
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, I gotta get there.
	It was so good.
	Just people's opinion.
	Like, whatever you want to do, like, it's up to them.
	Also, too, I feel like if the guy really is like, I'm not going to date you because your Instagram photos, no offense.
	Like, I don't want to date a guy like that.
	Like you're a bozo.
	Like, I like businessmen.
	I like businessmen that are on their phone all the time.
	Wait, what does that have to do with you posting bikini photos?
	Wait, what?
	Well, you said you like to date businessmen.
	What does someone do a businessman have to do with a businessman's not going on Instagram and worrying about what I'm doing?
	You're like ducking behind the mic.
	You got it.
	So it's money.
	I feel like you'd be worried about how you present yourself on social media.
	No, when it comes to a guy, not even money, just stability.
	Like, because I'm going to be honest, I come from a well-off family.
	You're hiding behind the mic.
	We need you to.
	There we go.
	Better.
	But would a guy of that high value and that stature necessarily, you know, it's like, oh, hey, it's like, can I see your girl's Instagram?
	I want to see her.
	Yeah.
	Would he want to show that off?
	I've been in a relationship.
	I think the guy is like a hype man.
	You know what I mean?
	He's like, this is my girl.
	She's sexy.
	Sometimes that's a thing.
	I usually ask my partners not to share that aliba.
	I usually do.
	And I'm going to be honest, like, I don't date guys in the industry.
	I don't, I just don't.
	I don't like to.
	I don't date athletes.
	They're all cheaters, in my opinion.
	So it's just, you know, I like a normal guy who usually is just like, oh, cool.
	She does this on this side.
	Because I'm going to be honest with you, once I do fall in love, and I, like I said, I'm at that point in my life where I'm like, okay, this is the one.
	I'll give up everything.
	And like I said, devote my life and time to becoming a mom and a wife.
	That's like the ultimate goal.
	Wait, you don't date athletes?
	No.
	Have you?
	She thinks that.
	I have.
	Did you?
	I don't like.
	I just.
	It's not hard.
	It's not hard.
	I was just, huh?
	NFL?
	NBA.
	NBA player.
	I've never met a man that didn't cheat in the NBA.
	Yep.
	You've met NBA players?
	No, I've had a lot of friends that like have dated NBA players.
	And I'm like, they took her private jets, like the yachts or whatever.
	Yep.
	But temptation is everywhere.
	You know, those guys are very tempting.
	A man is as loyal as his options.
	True.
	But if a man wants it, he wants that woman and he will stay loyal to that woman.
	But if he doesn't want that woman, then he won't.
	Wait, who here has had an offer from a guy to be flown out somewhere?
	Either flown out to Vegas, Miami, whatever it may be.
	I mean, everybody, yeah.
	Morgan.
	I have.
	You've been offered to.
	I have, yeah.
	I said no.
	Have any of you taken up the flown out offer?
	No.
	No.
	I haven't.
	You took it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but it was very respectful.
	And he actually was like this multi, like super like investor guy.
	And it was a really nice, it was just for a date.
	He just flew me for a date.
	And that was it.
	And he flew me back home.
	And that was it.
	And it just didn't work out.
	You never saw him again?
	He just wanted a little something more serious than what I wanted, honestly.
	Wait, but you literally just said that you want to get married and have kids.
	Yeah, but this was like a year ago.
	Wait, you keep ducking here.
	I need you to scoot your mic to your right.
	Right.
	Just.
	No, you're tilting.
	I need you to just scoot it that way because you keep hiding behind the mic.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	You're cute.
	Also, if you try to speak to me, that instead of speaking to Morgan.
	Okay, sorry.
	Yeah, I know I'm like, that'll help.
	You're such an eye contact person.
	So, okay, you had a.
	Where did he fly you out to?
	We just went to Dallas.
	Okay, it's Dallas.
	Athlete?
	No, investor guy.
	Money business guy?
	Okay.
	You didn't take any of the offers?
	No, because I'm scared.
	I'm scared of like, I don't know those people.
	Well, you know, I need to get to know you first before I go to an unknown location with you.
	Yeah.
	Like when someone offers something, it kind of scares me a little bit.
	It's like clarifying FaceTime before multiple times.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't like, yeah, no, yeah.
	I wouldn't just go on a plane with a stranger.
	Okay.
	So, but you've moved in circles with NBA players.
	No, I've never ridden.
	Oh, just your friends?
	Yeah, my friends.
	And you've moved in circles with athletes and musicians and actors.
	Just athletes I've dated.
	You've dated athletes?
	Yeah.
	One baseball player and one NBA player.
	And both of them were.
	No, they're just not cheating.
	One of them, I found out, ended up having a freaking girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	But, like I said, because he was just, oh, they're terrible.
	And she messaged me one time and she was like, hey, I think you're dating my boyfriend.
	And I was like, oh, cool.
	Great.
	Yeah, that was the baseball player.
	Ice ski.
	Yeah.
	And then I tried talking to another athlete that my friend actually knew because he did training camp with him.
	And he was like, oh, he hyped him up for me.
	Like, he's such a great guy.
	He was terrible.
	Terrible.
	Yeah.
	Just, it's the alcohol for me.
	Like, I just can't be around the partying and all that constantly.
	Wait, you're like a rave?
	Yeah, but you can rave sober.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, you don't have to go to rave on the bottom.
	Yeah.
	I love being sober.
	Going to bars, sober.
	Survive.
	It's a lot of fun.
	I mean, I can't go to nightclubs because it's so boring to me.
	I don't drink or anything like that.
	So insane.
	You know, like, wow.
	This is an interesting panel.
	I like this part of the social level that your drunk friends are when you are at a club or something.
	I just don't want to.
	Like, I just need to.
	I feel like, so I'd rather stay home.
	Wait, so is everybody here sober besides alcoholic Madison over here?
	Just kidding.
	Madison's okay.
	I'm kidding, Madison.
	I like wine and I smoke weed, but that's it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, actually, there's a video of you.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, dabbing.
	Yeah.
	I dabbed.
	Drop the video.
	Go to her Instagram.
	I cannot dab.
	I'm like a dabber.
	I can't.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know.
	That's like the one thing I like.
	Can you guys criticize my Instagram too?
	I would love feedback for what?
	Down for what?
	Scroll up.
	Oh, no.
	I'm like, don't give me the weed.
	Oh, it's in the tagged.
	Just go to the tagged.
	Are you talking about the one of me smoking the blunt?
	Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Yeah, there it is.
	Next to the rave.
	That was very weird.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	Actually, never mind.
	Never mind.
	We can't show her.
	Oh, yeah, you can.
	We can't show her doing that.
	That's probably just like.
	Well, that was the other thing I was going to ask.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Isn't like getting baked out of your mind on weed?
	Is that traditional?
	Traditional.
	No.
	No.
	Is that traditional, guys?
	I don't smoke all day.
	Like, that's terrible to me because I like to be functional.
	I smoke.
	No, no, definitely not.
	I just dab at night for my, like, when that's my content, I, like, dab and get really mad at people.
	You get mad at people?
	Oh, yeah.
	Is that the Toxica thing that you're talking about?
	Listen, if we're going to get married, okay.
	Oh, man.
	Are you the most that you can maybe occasionally a glass of wine, but you're maybe you can have tea?
	Yeah.
	Oh, when I have kids, I'm not smoking.
	Absolutely not.
	Yeah.
	You gotta cut the women.
	Would you call yourself a dickhead?
	Are you gonna pay her bills and rent?
	It's an amazing.
	Am I gonna pay her bills in rent?
	I mean, I don't think we can.
	You can have a minivan and I'll put you up in my shed.
	I don't think you can.
	I have a shed in my backyard.
	You can camp out there.
	Because I don't believe in sharing a power.
	What?
	I think the girls are.
	Bunk beds?
	Bunk bits, right?
	I believe you should sleep in bunk beds.
	I think the girl should have like a separate, your wife should have a separate room.
	Oh, my.
	Well, you know, you're a snorer.
	Do you snore?
	Yeah, you know.
	No, I don't.
	I'm the most quiet sleeper ever.
	I fall asleep in Discord every night.
	They say I'm like a little mouse.
	I'm just so quiet.
	Wait, you do sleeping streams?
	No, I've never done a sleeping stream, but I'll fall asleep to my friends.
	Like, we're nerds.
	We'll just be playing until like 5 a.m.
	Wait, you keep hiding behind the mic.
	I'm sorry.
	Scoot the mic this way and then move it this way.
	Tilt it towards you.
	Sorry.
	There you go.
	And then just freeze.
	Like straight back and don't slouch.
	Don't move.
	Yeah, there we go.
	There you go.
	You're stuck.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I'm in a gamer position.
	Yeah, I definitely think separate bedrooms is the way to go.
	Well, you know, Jewish culture, they don't sleep in the same bedroom only on their period when a woman's on period.
	That's like orthodox.
	Yeah.
	Orthodox.
	Orthodox.
	Okay.
	I mean, you want to be orthodox?
	What the?
	Okay.
	So wait.
	Yeah, separate bedrooms.
	Are you like taking back your proposal, Brian?
	You know, mine as well.
	I think you're second guessing is the second guessing.
	Mormonism, separate houses.
	You can have like five wives, different houses.
	You know, at that point.
	Yeah, actually, let's pull up her TikTok.
	Oh, I think it's always fun.
	Okay, I want to preface I might come off a little bit mean on TikTok, but that's just content.
	It's just content.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Because I got my views on it.
	The most recent one.
	No, no, no, no.
	Put it back.
	Put it back.
	The incoming stitch one?
	Video tab.
	TikTok is like a word of acting.
	But then you're portraying a different character.
	Yeah, that's.
	Actually, no, put it up one.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Sorry.
	Play the second one.
	I mean, it says that's so funny related to talking about it.
	This is not the same thing as a man liking another girl's picture.
	I'm not going to lie.
	This shit kind of like pisses me off.
	And I'm going to tell you why.
	I hate how like dating has become like so one-sided because I'm like used to dating somebody and giving them like the equal respect that they give me.
	So for example, if I ask my man to unfollow, let's say an Instagram model who happens to post a little bit more, you know, over-the-top photos or whatever it may be showing off their body, et cetera.
	I think it's only right for me as a woman that's, you know, trying to respect my man.
	If he's respecting me by unfollowing these girls, what gives it a right for me to be allowed to post, let's say, over-the-top photos of me showing my body?
	I just think it's like a double standard.
	And I think it's really fucking annoying how these women try to be like, oh, women power, like all that.
	But it's like, you're literally preaching the fucking opposite.
	Relationships should be like 50% of the time.
	X out of that.
	Now, the TikTok that you posted just before that one, play that one.
	You told me that you wasn't a freak.
	Remember that?
	Now I don't believe you.
	Because the way you're going to be feeling right now, every day, girl, I want to see you.
	You told me that you wasn't a freak.
	So the camera angle, right?
	So you have your cell phone.
	Yeah.
	And it's like.
	It's a TikTok tribe.
	It's like, you know, wait, I'm trying to get this.
	It's kind of like, here's my ass.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Come on, I know what I'm doing.
	But like, how do you go from that TikTok to what you see?
	You know what I mean?
	You know what I mean?
	The point of that TikTok, if you watched the video before, it's a girl saying, she's pretty much saying that if I tell my man I follow a picture of a girl in a bikini, I still can post one, which I think is stupid as fuck.
	Like, you're being hypocritical about that.
	Like, that's so hypocritical.
	No, I know, I know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But, like, I said again, if I were to later down the life, meet a man, he's like, don't post that.
	Cool.
	But, like I said, I'm only doing content and doing this stuff right now while I can.
	Because I don't want to do this forever.
	I don't want to be like, you know, doing this for myself.
	Don't you ever think you want to find something that you're passionate about and then you could do it for like the rest of your life?
	I have a side job.
	A side thing.
	Not all of us can launder money, okay?
	I just don't know how you can justify being traditional, but then actively posting things that are not promiscuous.
	Just seeking the attention.
	You've got to be honest.
	Those kinds of videos, a man's going to watch that and going to like that.
	Same thing with Instagram, same thing with bikini photos.
	So how can you claim, okay, I'm traditional, I want all these great things, but then still seek that.
	And I know it's like you're saying it's your character and it's just content.
	But the thing is, like, that content lives forever.
	That's still who you are.
	But that's not a second person.
	Like, that's still you.
	It's still content.
	That's you.
	That's the image that everyone has.
	Right.
	And so how.
	And I think that determines from, and this is, I think, the problem with social media these days is people base their entire identity and life off social media to justify themselves or validate themselves.
	I literally look at social media.
	I'm going to be honest with you, with money.
	Like, hello, I'm in this business.
	I'm a businesswoman.
	I'm going to do it while I can.
	And it's just like, I'm going to do it.
	Like I said, while I can right now.
	Wouldn't you rather make money in a more glorifying way to your own?
	I have examples.
	Yeah.
	No, yeah.
	After I mean, you could do it anymore.
	Oh, yeah.
	Getting in debt for like a year.
	But why do women feel the need to put out on the internet to make money?
	Like my whole family, we're all within like the medical field.
	Like my uncle, he's been doing college for eight years.
	I've been doing a nurse, dermatologist, I have dentists.
	My cousins are dentists.
	You can go to cosmetology school for $9.50.
	Hairdresser.
	I mean, on social media even, you don't have to.
	The point is, you don't have to sell your body on the internet to make money.
	I think women have been lied to that it's like, oh, it's super glorifying.
	This is women's empowerment of like, actually, no, you can post your body, be super promiscuous, and this is way more desirable.
	But then you're seeking the opposite negative attention of a man.
	And I mean, women also, it's like male validation.
	You know, women love attention.
	Like, that's just a fact.
	No matter who you are, women love attention.
	And so it's like, are you seeking out that negative attention from men?
	Not you, but I'm saying like, are women seeking out the negative attention from men by posting on the internet?
	Yes.
	If a girl says no, they're lying.
	And it's like, no, you don't have to do that to make money.
	But it's been so normalized.
	Oh, it's so easy.
	Sell your body on OnlyFans, you know, make more provocative TikToks.
	And you can now make money on TikTok.
	You make money on Instagram, make money on streaming simply by, I mean, even like the TikTok NPC trend, like that is very oversexualized with the women that are doing it, you know?
	Actually, Madison, we had our first Madison NPC.
	No.
	But it's not like sexual.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's not sexual.
	I didn't look sexual.
	Right, but the viewers do.
	Yes.
	Do they?
	Yeah, to the NPC girls, they do.
	Oh, okay.
	They do 100%.
	Gang.
	Okay, so I think the sticking point for us, because you, in your pre-show messages, and I think during the show, you said that you're traditional, that you have old school values.
	You said that you're a very old school view when it comes to dating.
	But like, if you look at like the Instagram, for example, you know, there's lingerie photos, bikini photos, ass photos, rave attire, blunt smoking.
	Was it blunt or was it the bong?
	I don't know.
	It was joint, yeah.
	Like that doesn't strike me as the epitome of traditional.
	Yeah, yeah, but you know what's so funny?
	When I go on dates and let's say they do know what I do, they meet me in person, they're like, holy fuck, like you were so the opposite of what I thought you were gonna be.
	And I love that, you know, I like throwing people off.
	Your personality, like what you're looking for in a man, like the way you move in a relationship, I'll give you that.
	It may very well be traditional, but what I would argue is, I don't think you can, there may be some traditional things about you, but I don't think you can just blanket say that you are a traditional or that you do have fully across the board old school values because some of these things seem negotiable with you.
	Like just based off the pictures you're posting, the smoke in the, is it a blunt blunt?
	It's a joint, yeah.
	Joint.
	Again, it doesn't your public facing, your public facing presentation doesn't strike me as traditional.
	Yeah.
	You could, uh, you can have traditional values, but a part of being a traditional person is also living out that life, you know?
	Like a majority.
	Sorry, I cut you off.
	No, I was just going to say, like, back when I was in college, I posted bikini photos.
	I was drinking, you know, used to smoke weed.
	But then once I was like, no, I'm going to live a traditional life because that's also what I want to attract is I want a traditional man.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay, I'm not going to post a bikini photo.
	I'm not going to drink anymore.
	I'm not going to do these certain things.
	And as I progress in life, so it's like you can have traditional values, but that being a traditional person looks different when you live out that life.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was just like, you had something?
	But didn't she say she doesn't want to date someone traditional right now because she's getting her bag?
	And then later on, she's going to like, you know, actually delete all the stuff.
	Like you did, you know, like you had a past that it was bad and you change it because you want to be a different way.
	And that's still valid.
	You know, like if people change, people change.
	You know, like people have pasts.
	But you actually know that you want to change.
	So why not?
	Why not try a different person?
	Like if you're passionate about gaming, still game.
	Oh, I love gaming.
	Yeah, the gaming is like, sorry, go ahead, love.
	It's okay, no, no.
	Continue.
	No, the gaming thing was like, you know, like I said, it's a passion.
	That's truly like what I love to do.
	But obviously, like, hello, it's a business.
	How, you know, I'm thinking business business standpoint.
	Wait, you're on kick or Twitch?
	I was on Twitch.
	I was on Twitch for a year and then I went to kick.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Madison, did you?
	Oh, I was just going to add to what Morgan said, but just like, I feel like a majority of traditional women can most definitely put pictures like that for their body online to gain money, but keep to their values so they don't do that.
	Yeah.
	But, okay, part of like, you could argue, part of like tradition, old school values, one of those traditions.
	What?
	It's like reputation or like the way you portray yourself.
	Just hold on, let me finish.
	Okay.
	One of the traditional things or an old school value is modesty.
	That is a traditional value.
	Okay, yeah.
	Definitely not modest.
	Yeah, definitely not modesty.
	I'm wearing a shirt.
	Yeah.
	I wear tank tops, you know?
	But that's like me claiming I'm a virgin, but I slept with 30 people.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like, how do you claim it?
	Did you have more on this that you wanted to, it sounded like you might have had more?
	It just depends.
	Like, everybody has a past, you know, like, there's probably that guy that was, you know, wants to be traditional.
	He probably has a past.
	Should we forgive people's past?
	Always.
	I think that depends.
	Obviously, if it's murder, obviously not.
	You know, like.
	Be nice to the murderers.
	Give them a chance.
	They're sweethearts.
	You're right.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	Would you date a murder?
	Who here would date a murderer?
	No.
	Anybody?
	No.
	No.
	If, like, my, if my boyfriend was, like, protecting me and murdered someone for me, then I think that would just be self-defense.
	Self-defense.
	Yeah.
	Homicide.
	People, but people change, you know, their past is their past, and like it's the person who they are now and who they're showing.
	Let me ask you a question, though.
	Who believes that here at the table, your past is your past?
	You shouldn't be judged on your past.
	If they've actively repented and changed their entire lifestyle, then yes.
	Question for all the girls here: Would you date a guy who in his past slept with a hundred different prostitutes?
	He doesn't anymore, he hasn't in three years, but he previously had was sex addicts, sleeping with prostitutes, slept with a hundred.
	Me personally, no, but I know he's repented more than that.
	I heard within that relationship that you have with someone and you discuss your past and you discuss what you want stuff.
	Like, that's up to that relationship.
	It's up to you, it's up to everybody.
	It has a different opinion.
	It's also like an extreme.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	That's an extreme.
	Don't say it.
	I feel like that's like a let's just say like a man has like an OnlyFans.
	There's a lot of cooking.
	It's so normal.
	That's kind of gay.
	I don't know any straight dudes.
	I don't know.
	Do straight dudes.
	Dude guys have OnlyFans.
	They do, but I honestly think questions.
	Yeah.
	First question.
	Anybody that takes a dance, I mean, it's less risky than him saying like 100 prostitutes.
	Like, what?
	You know, like, that's a lot.
	Like, that's too much.
	I told you, I feel like that's like the normal name.
	No, it says there's like 10 years.
	Wait, going to you, Amber, in your pre-show notes to us, you said that you, I don't know if it's two different people.
	You mentioned something about a spiritual fuckboy.
	Is that the current guy you're seeing?
	No.
	This is a guy that when I broke up with my toxic boyfriend, I met this guy from mutual friends.
	Like I used to, my old boss, he's friends with him.
	And it's crazy because I didn't know there was spiritual, you know, like F-boys.
	Like, I was like, what?
	Like, it's crazy to me because it's like, he seems like a really nice, like, you know, you would expect spiritual people to be like, okay, you know what?
	Like, I want with my soulmate.
	I don't want to, like, you know.
	And they're not going to play games with you, right?
	No.
	You know, but they're in the Christian community.
	I mean, there's a lot of people.
	When you say spiritual, what do you mean by the music?
	Okay, so just like you said, I mean, no, no, fucking shit.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hold on, hold on, just donated $99.
	Off topic.
	Bro, you gotta send these when she's at the table, brother.
	We need to recognize how badass she is.
	Everyone put W Madison in the chat.
	She can hear it.
	There's so much that the viewers don't see.
	We love you.
	Madison heard it, man.
	She's just behind the scene right there.
	She's coming back.
	Yo, Brandon.
	Maybe eating something.
	She's hungry.
	Thank you, Brandon.
	Oh, there.
	Oh, wow.
	Do you guys want to send Brandon a kiss?
	Yeah.
	Into this camera right here.
	Okay.
	Okay, that was.
	I'm sorry.
	That was cringe.
	Okay.
	Let's do it.
	That was so cringe.
	Spiritual fuckboy.
	So, like, heart chakras, fucking stones.
	So, this guy has done, you know, ayahuasca?
	He's done it four times.
	Like, he told me he's like, I don't believe in therapy because I do ayahuasca and crystals.
	Crystals, yeah, crystals.
	The way this house, oh my God.
	It was like crazy to me.
	You enter his house, above the fireplace, there's like a lion that has so many colors because they have like this UV light that shines into it.
	One time I went to his party and he had like a bowl of shrooms.
	Just casually, like people could just do shrooms however they want.
	You go ahead, you know?
	His kitchen was yellow.
	Okay.
	Was he like witchy?
	Like, what did he believe in?
	He believed that you can get cured with like ayahuasca and the spiritual and like going burning man.
	So spiritual.
	Spiritual.
	Sure.
	I was like, okay.
	Okay.
	He was like, tell me all this stuff.
	And you know, obviously, like, I'm stupid and I fell for it.
	Like, he was like, yeah, I'm a Christian.
	He had like a little like.
	At least you're self-aware.
	What?
	You can wear a cross.
	That doesn't mean anything.
	Exactly.
	Black.
	And yeah.
	And the way that he just like portrayed himself was so different.
	Like, he just lied, though.
	Like, if you're spiritual and stuff like that, he lied about it.
	He's like, I was like, um, where oh, he's like, yeah, I have a Tesla, but my brother's borrowing it.
	So he's using his mentor's Tesla.
	And I'm like, if you need a car, then why don't you ask your brother to give your Tesla back?
	He just portrayed, like, he was like this crypto guy that was like, you know, like, oh my God, like, I have all this money.
	I'm like an investor, whatever.
	And I was like, okay, where's your money?
	He's like, oh, I put it all in crypto.
	Like, it's all in Bitcoin.
	Okay, question for you.
	So you said this was after you broke up with your current ex.
	Yeah.
	So this was within the past two months.
	Yes.
	You were involved with the spiritual fuckboy.
	Yes.
	Did y'all sleep together?
	What?
	Did you sleep together?
	How long did it last?
	How long did it last?
	Probably like a month after I figured out that like he was like, no, but you didn't sleep together?
	Don't duck the question.
	Did you guys hook up?
	No.
	I don't believe that.
	Like, I was like, I don't believe that.
	You hung out just one time?
	No, no, no.
	We hung up like, it was like max like three times, like two times.
	And he like, third date.
	And I was like, this is weird of me.
	Be honest.
	You guys hooked up.
	Come on.
	No, I ghosted him.
	Okay, after you hooked up.
	No.
	Come on.
	No.
	Third base.
	A little blowy action.
	A little blowy.
	A little blowy.
	No.
	No blowies.
	She said no.
	Zero blowies.
	No.
	Did he?
	No.
	Where did y'all meet?
	We did shower together, though.
	Bro, you're so full of shit.
	You are so full of shit.
	You showered together naked on ayahuasca.
	Did you guys take ayahuasca?
	No, I love it.
	I love how open and honest she is.
	In between hats, she broke up with the guy two months ago.
	Yeah.
	And then you met up with this dude.
	Because I really thought this guy a couple of times.
	Yeah.
	I really thought this guy was like a really nice guy.
	Like he really said, like, you know what?
	Like, I'm a traditional man.
	Like, I really want to provide for my family.
	He kept saying, like, oh, you, you would be such a good wife.
	Like, I want you to have my kids.
	Did your current guy that you're like toxic ex slash not X know?
	Did he a little like manipulate?
	Yeah, I told him the truth.
	I was honest.
	You know, I was honest with him.
	Like, you know why I did that?
	And it was a mistake, you know, because I figured out that he was just weird.
	Like, he didn't text me for four days.
	Like, you know, he wasn't consistent.
	Like, he was just like, so weird.
	I'm like, I'm so confused.
	And there was like this part where like he just like he was so inconsistent.
	Like one time I hanged out with him at a mall and we were just talking, but we were talking, we're not even making, he wasn't even making eye contact with me.
	He was looking at other people while he was talking to me.
	That's so based.
	Just like, you're not even worth looking at.
	I'm just gonna.
	And he just randomly gets up and he's like, I think I'm gonna go hang out with my brother.
	And so funny, his brother doesn't answer him.
	And I was like, okay.
	We walk to like the main street and then he's like, okay, I'm gonna go hang out with my friend.
	I'm like, you didn't even tell me like, hey, like, it was a great time, blah, blah, blah.
	Like, he just, like, you know what?
	I was unbothered.
	I was like, okay, bye.
	And I just walked off.
	Wait, so, okay.
	How soon after breaking up with, and I put very strong air quotes on breaking up with your toxic ex.
	How soon after breaking up, breaking up with him, did you get involved with spiritual fuckboy?
	I think it was a month after.
	A month after.
	So like four weeks ago.
	Granted, you were still in the middle of the day.
	No, this was like your ex.
	Like in the months of like June, July.
	Okay.
	So you showered with him.
	Yeah.
	But you didn't sleep with him.
	No.
	Under which context would you shower with somebody?
	I don't know.
	You fucked him.
	Come on, be honest.
	Just be honest.
	You just don't want to say you fucked him because you're still in this weird situationship with your current.
	Why are you showering naked with him?
	Because I can sustain base sexuality.
	I'm not going to switch.
	But why?
	Hold on.
	In some universe, I could imagine you guys were at the beach together and you showered together for some reason with your trunks.
	He had his trunks on.
	You were in your bikini.
	But you hadn't had sex yet, but you were comfortable showering naked together.
	Because I told him I wasn't going to do that.
	So as a consolation prize, you showered with him naked?
	Yeah.
	That would do nothing for me personally.
	Oh, I get to shower.
	Spiritual people, I don't care.
	Wow, that's great.
	I'd rather just not do that and have a pleasant shower without you stealing all the hot water.
	For real.
	I mean, it wasn't ceiling because, to be honest, he lives rent-free.
	So.
	He lives rent-free.
	At his mentor's house.
	I'm not trying to make a point about the utilities here.
	I'm just.
	Hello?
	Okay.
	So.
	It's more so just like if you're showering with someone, it's kind of like, yo, go in the corner, lady.
	I'm trying to fucking shower here.
	It wasn't like that, though.
	He was like, I mean, he's 20.
	Like, he's in his 20s.
	Did y'all touch each other?
	Like, what's the point of showing you?
	Showering together.
	Wash your hair next to each other?
	Were you guys, were you guys like?
	It's like the same thing as Christians.
	They rub on each other, but when you're wearing clothes, like, it's the same.
	Are you talking about like Mormon soaking?
	Yeah!
	Wait, did you soak?
	No, he's not Mormon.
	Doesn't mean you can't get a little soak in the action in.
	Okay, so it was a nice thing.
	Don't use the word, the Lord's.
	I would still say that's intimate.
	Maybe seeing that.
	He's like the most he could get from you.
	Pretty much, no, because he actually texted me a couple like weeks ago.
	He's like, he's like, remember this?
	And he sent me a picture where I was really traumatized that night.
	The shower night?
	No, no, no, no.
	There was a night where I got really high to the point where I cut getting hired.
	Like, I don't want to do weed anymore.
	Like, I was paranoid.
	Like, I was so paranoid that I wanted to call the cops on him.
	Wait, because it was a second date.
	You know, and I was like, oh, I want to relax a little bit.
	Like, let me take something to like, because I was having a lot of anxiety.
	Yeah, weed is, I mean, weed can trigger fucking.
	And I realized that and I was like, I don't want to do that anymore.
	Like, that doesn't work for me.
	But you ended up smoking the weed.
	No, no, no.
	It was inedible.
	Like, it was like a lollipop.
	I didn't, like, it was just like, yeah.
	You had an edible and then you had a green out is what is that what it's called?
	Yeah, and it wasn't the fact that like I was at a stranger's.
	Wait, but hold on.
	You wanted to call the cops because you were freaking the fuck out on weed?
	Yeah, because whenever you're like, I couldn't do that.
	Yeah.
	Like I was freaking out.
	But you wanted to call the cops on him?
	Yeah, because I was so scared that he like kind of, you know, like did something to it.
	Like riffita?
	Like drug feed it or something?
	Yeah.
	Like I was scared because it's like this never happens kind of to me.
	Like it never happens.
	Like I never did you smoke weed a lot.
	Not really.
	But when I did, I wasn't like that though.
	Like I mean, that's a thing.
	I mean, I actually.
	If you could possibly just take too much, it could get you.
	Yeah.
	I probably did.
	Yeah, I don't care about edibles.
	The way that he handled it was so scary to me.
	Like, the fact that, like...
	Was he...
	Well, he might have been high, too.
	He probably was never going to see his podcast.
	I'm like, please don't see this podcast.
	You're still a good person, I promise.
	Did he take an edible too?
	Yeah, he did.
	But obviously, because he's used to that, like used to doing drugs and stuff like that.
	Like, you know, he can contain it.
	He gets it.
	Was this the second?
	You said you hung out with him three times total, correct?
	Was it the first, second, or third time you hung out with him?
	Second time.
	And then, so you went the second time you're with him?
	The first time was like a movie date.
	Are you movie date in public?
	Yeah.
	Or you went over to Netflix and chilled.
	No, no, no, no.
	I went to the next.
	Second date, you went to his place, though.
	Yes.
	And he got like dinner for me.
	That was really nice.
	Like, he had dinner for me.
	Like, we went to the hot dub.
	Like, I obviously had my bikini.
	He had like his swim trunks.
	And we were.
	That's when you showered naked?
	No.
	That was the third date.
	Excuse me.
	Wait, the third date was the naked shower?
	Yeah.
	You know what, guys?
	You're so.
	Which is the ball shower.
	Yeah, this is a watch.
	This is a watchy house of therapist.
	She needs to vent this all out.
	Yeah, guys.
	So you're my therapist.
	hello this is a this is welcome to the whatever intervention pod And what I didn't like is like he looked at me in the eyes.
	I'm not joking.
	He's like, it's normal.
	What?
	It's okay.
	You're going to get over this.
	That's some demonic.
	Yeah.
	I was like, well, maybe he was trying to do that.
	That's how spiritual men are, though.
	Yeah, that's how they try to calm you down.
	But I would see how you would take that in a way where you were.
	I would say that's right.
	That's when it kind of triggers me and kind of being like, oh my God, like I'm scared.
	Like, I was really scared.
	Well, it sounds like you're having, like...
	Instead of, like, comforting me, instead of being like, hey, like, it's okay, like, hugging me, like, hey, it's fine, like, petting me, no.
	No, he literally like was in a distance to me and he looked at me when I was on the floor and he's like, it's normal.
	You know, like, it's, um, as if he, like, did something to it.
	So that's what you're supposed to be.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, I was scared.
	And afterward, he literally like, like, he forgave me.
	I was like, I'm so sorry.
	Like, I got really, like, you know, I almost like was freaking out.
	And then afterwards, he literally like sent me this whole like paragraph later on getting me mad.
	He's like, you could have called the cops.
	Like, oh my God, I could have got ruined.
	My whole career could have like, I built this from the ground up, blah, blah, blah.
	And then he sends me a text.
	Did you call the cops?
	No, I didn't.
	I called my best friend on FaceTime.
	Yeah, because, I mean, from perhaps in the moment you had a fear that he laced the lollipop, I guess, but it sounds like you were just having an edible, like...
	Anything could have fentanyl in it now.
	Yeah.
	Instead of, like, cuddling me or something like that, tell me it's okay.
	Like, let's get your clothes ready.
	No, dude.
	Like, he didn't do any of that.
	You were freaking the fuck out, weren't you?
	Because this is why I actually don't smoke weed.
	When I was very young, I was 17 in high school.
	Yeah.
	It was maybe the seventh.
	I smoked weed a couple times.
	It was actually fine.
	Yeah.
	But then one time I smoked it.
	I don't know if it was a strain or I smoked too much, but I freaked the fuck out.
	Full-blown panic attack.
	I was having hallucinations, like intense, like physical hallucinations.
	And it was weed.
	I'll know what it was.
	In any case, haven't smoked weed since I was 17, whatever.
	But like, I was freaking the fuck out.
	So I don't think it was laced.
	I just think it was, one, it was edible.
	And that was probably, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Some people, it just happens.
	I've heard from a lot of people that they have like these strange experiences on weed.
	They have panic attacks.
	Yeah.
	You can have, I mean, it's psychoactive, so you can definitely have some weird shit going on, but you probably just had like a panic attack.
	Yeah.
	And like, whenever I agree now, I just feel like I'm not myself.
	Like, I'm not sure if you're not.
	He just is like an out of body.
	Yeah.
	That's why I don't do that in OCA.
	I think if you have anxiety, like that triggers it.
	Don't even start drugs.
	Don't get wrong.
	Don't smoke weed.
	Yeah, if you don't need to.
	Yeah, just don't.
	Please.
	If you have like an anxious personality or you have panic attacks, do not smoke weed.
	I know it helps.
	If you do smoke weed, you have to know what you can handle.
	Yeah, too.
	Anyways, okay, so I don't know why.
	Text me this picture saying, like, crazy night, a picture of when, like, I did that.
	Okay, so of you, like, freaking out.
	Not freaking out, but like, before, like, when we were like having dinner, and I was like, oh, weird.
	He likes to take a picture of you freaking out.
	Who does that?
	Remember what you hovered over for crazy night, right?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Sorry, Andy.
	Man, this story is going so much.
	Out of proportion.
	Despite your distaste for the way he handled your freak out when you were on weed, you still opted to see him a third time and then shower naked with him.
	Well, because he said, he like actually said, like, you know what?
	Like, I understand what, like, kind of he was like nice to me about it and stuff like that.
	And I was like, okay, that wasn't whenever he freaked out about like the whole like calling college.
	You could go.
	No, he was actually nice at the beginning whenever it happened the day after.
	And then why didn't you see him again?
	After the third time.
	What do you mean?
	You said you stopped seeing him.
	No, no, no.
	I stopped seeing him after like the third date.
	That's literally what I just said.
	Oh, I did.
	Or was it a fourth day?
	Because it wasn't a day we went to the mall together and we just like hung out, to be honest.
	You guys didn't smash?
	No.
	But you showered.
	Yeah.
	That's interesting.
	Was there like any fondling?
	No.
	Zero fondling?
	Yeah.
	Should we call him?
	Do you have certain standards?
	Do you want to call him?
	We can call him.
	I'm not going to sleep on the receipts.
	And all this while.
	All this while you were still seeing your current situation show.
	No, I wasn't seeing him.
	Like, literally, like, cold turkey.
	Like, I actually stopped.
	So you did go cold turkey.
	Why'd you go back?
	But why are you tapering?
	I know, stop.
	Going back to, like, toxic.
	But you already lied.
	You lied earlier on in the conversation, so now everything that you say is like questionable.
	Girls do lie.
	We're not.
	Questionable.
	No, but earlier you said, oh, I haven't two months.
	It's been two months.
	I don't know.
	I'm shy, but I'm not going to say it in like live, you know, like this is pre-recorded.
	Like, people can come back in the future and be like, what do you mean?
	She's been gradually telling the truth.
	I appreciate it.
	It is time to open up.
	It's not open up, guys.
	I'm just going to give her some time.
	I have a chat here.
	We have Stochastic Decay.
	Stochastic Decay has a question for the panel.
	Can each guest name two zodiac signs, no repeats?
	Two zodiacs?
	Oh, God.
	Well, there's six people here, so how many zodiac signs are there?
	What's up?
	What are you?
	Sagittarius.
	I don't know anything about it.
	I'm a Taurus, but I don't know what that means.
	Oh, me too.
	I'm a little bit more.
	You know what?
	A lot of people say about, apparently tourist men are, you gotta stay away.
	I'm gonna shut the f.
	Hell no, I'm not kidding.
	I'm not like a Zodiac sign girl, but that's what I hate.
	If a girl believes in Zodiac signs, run.
	Yeah, run for the hills.
	Okay, name two.
	I only know mine.
	Leo, Leot Lion, Lion, Leo?
	Let's just go around this quick.
	Hey, Aries.
	Hey, um, did you say Leo?
	Um, I said Taurus.
	Taurus and yeah.
	Go, go, go, That's what I said.
	Aries, okay.
	Okay, go, Oh, Capricorn, because I'm a Capricorn.
	And.
	You're such a Capricorn.
	Whatever that means.
	Whatever that means.
	Jupiter rising.
	I know, right?
	And I don't know.
	Jupiter's rising.
	What's the water sign?
	There's like a water.
	Aries.
	There's something similar to the Aries.
	I don't know.
	Like, I don't study this.
	Okay, Morgan.
	Virgo and Sagittarius.
	Can you tilt the mic down a bit?
	Sagittarius.
	A little bit.
	Yes.
	Sorry.
	Perfect.
	Perfection.
	Maddie.
	Libra and Cancer.
	Okay.
	Did anyone say Sagittarius?
	Yeah, I should have Sagittarius.
	That's why I didn't.
	I'm the last one.
	This is not fair.
	Yeah.
	But seriously, Zodiac signs or what?
	What about you, Ryan?
	Yeah.
	I forgot.
	Ryan said Jupiter rising.
	Well, I'm a Taurus.
	I don't believe in Zodiac shit.
	I don't know.
	Wait, people tell you to stay away from Taurus?
	I guess, like, I don't know.
	I see it on TikTok sometimes, but it's always like Taurus men are red flags as a Taurus.
	I don't know.
	I don't know why.
	I'm a red flag, I guess.
	Big red flag.
	You call yourself a red flag?
	Well, apparently, because I'm a Taurus.
	Apparently, like, a lot of Taurus men just don't bring anything to the table.
	Shut the fuck down.
	Good thing Zodiac signs don't matter.
	Wait.
	Yeah, it's a good thing they don't matter, right?
	Yeah, I guess I do.
	I guess you're right, Matt.
	I guess Brian Atlas brings to the table.
	Zodiacs?
	No, that's like the Greek gods.
	Like Zeus.
	That's like astrology, right?
	Astrology.
	Isn't it?
	It's astrology.
	Oh, I mean, is it Romans?
	Did you see the Romans?
	Because it's like, you know, I think it was.
	Yeah, well, that's astrology's planets, but that doesn't really correlate with.
	Well, kind of.
	Stars.
	Rising moon, downward sun, sideways duck.
	Yes.
	It is Greek.
	It is Greek.
	It's Greek.
	What about it?
	It's nice.
	I guess.
	I'm not thinking of Greece.
	I don't believe all of these angry gods.
	I don't believe these things.
	All right.
	I've got a couple questions here.
	Let's see.
	We have Elizabeth.
	Huh.
	Who is it now?
	Wait, okay.
	I got to check you on this, Elizabeth.
	What?
	Wynn.
	Miss Wynn.
	Yes.
	I think you're living a double secret life so your parents don't find out.
	A double secret life?
	Someone said that?
	No, it is you.
	Because your parents are watching the stream, I feel like you're not being honest.
	I like to be strict with myself because honestly, they raise me a certain way.
	And I actually like to enforce strict rules or boundaries for myself.
	Because it feels empowering.
	I mean, for me.
	Self-discipline.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I have a lot of self-discipline.
	You mentioned in your messages to us before the show, multiple groups of famous TikTok boys and other TikTok stars are doing the most to get my attention.
	The groups are actually enemies in the entertainment industry.
	They desperately want to be my boyfriend because of the way I view life, and they think I'm the perfect girl in quotes.
	Most of them look like bad boy players, and keep in mind, I'm still the virgin, LOL.
	The two thes, that was you, by the way.
	Just letting you know.
	The the virgin.
	You're the the virgin.
	I'm still the the virgin.
	What's the have you?
	What's the have you gone like third base or nothing?
	Like this is it?
	Kiss.
	Has there been the first kiss?
	What's what's third base though?
	Like oral.
	So when a man and a woman love each other very much, they do.
	Sometimes they kiss each other down there.
	Yeah, that's that thing.
	Wait, have you ever have you had a kiss?
	I have kissed because also like I have you have or haven't?
	I have okay in acting cap in acting class because I'm an actress.
	They teach you how to do it there.
	They teach you in acting class how to kiss?
	Yep.
	Nice.
	I've taken an acting class and I've never had to do that in my acting school.
	I did.
	That's why I left off.
	Weird ass.
	This must have been some like front.
	Have you only ever kissed people in acting class?
	Has there been?
	Or outside of acting class?
	Have you kissed anyone?
	That's it.
	That's it.
	Just acting class?
	Yes, as an actress, yes.
	Wait, so okay, hold on.
	There was acting class, but then did you have like a role?
	Yeah, those were my role.
	Yeah.
	What role?
	In the acting class?
	It was.
	Or was there a TV or something?
	Which is after I told my parents, you know, they're kind of like strict with that too.
	We just didn't like it.
	I didn't like the acting class at all.
	Was it in college?
	No, it was after college.
	Was it just like a three-week course or something?
	No, I was in the acting class for a year.
	What was the was it through like an acting school or why the fuck?
	They don't.
	Why would they teach?
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, that's.
	They probably have like written scripts and make you act them out and there's a kissing scene and how many people were in the class, Elizabeth?
	Um, like 30, 40.
	Did everybody have to do a kissing scene?
	Yeah.
	It was.
	What?
	I know.
	This is why I'm not.
	That's fucking weird.
	I've been to acting classes.
	Yo, Hollywood is whack.
	Yo, there's something weird going on in Hollywood.
	Oh my gosh, my acting class, they teach you everything.
	Like they want you to orgasm.
	They want you to laughing.
	I know.
	What can I act?
	You want to sign up for this?
	They want you to do it all.
	Did you?
	So it's like, yo, was this like some born acting?
	I was about to say, I'm like, were you a mattress actress?
	I went to class and they're like, we're going to orgasm.
	And I'm like, what's orgasm?
	You know, I'm like, I don't even know what that is at that time.
	Okay.
	I'm like, what is this?
	When a man and the woman love me.
	I know, I see, I see.
	I see.
	I get it.
	They have a climax of pleasure.
	Hollywood.
	That's groomy.
	Groomy.
	I was going to say, that's like Hollywood Green.
	How old were you?
	Let me see.
	Maybe like 20.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you were about to go.
	I mean, still go.
	You don't need to do that.
	Like, that's weird.
	Yeah.
	But if this was like a class for me.
	And I can't believe I stayed for a year.
	I think it was going on a year and a half.
	Oh, wow.
	I was a class.
	And every single day it was something like that.
	So they just had you.
	And I felt very active.
	So like in the class, were you just like diddling yourself trying to come?
	Like, what the fuck?
	It was like air.
	It was just you.
	And then everyone would watch.
	Wait, you'd go on stage and masturbate?
	Yeah.
	Wait, like actually doing it?
	There's no fucking way.
	There's no fucking way.
	You would actually do it or like acting it out.
	This is a cult.
	This must be a bad thing.
	Pretend to orgasm.
	Yes.
	Oh, like an acting acting.
	Yeah, but still, though, they're weird.
	They're still pretending to orgasm.
	It is weird.
	It's the principle.
	I guess like in an acting capacity, like an actor could be tasked with in a scene.
	But I feel like that's a very niche scene.
	And if you get cast for that role, then like you as an actor, if you needed to like learn that, you could get a separate code and be like, hey, I have the scene.
	And like, I want to do the scene, whatever.
	But like an actual class.
	They teach you.
	It doesn't seem appropriate for like an educational setting.
	I'm a classically trained actor.
	Worked in LA when I was a kid.
	Theater or film?
	Film.
	Film TV corrections.
	So I was in acting school in LA.
	And it was like the most.
	I've never had to do anything in the world.
	The other year I've never had a popular acting class in Hollywood.
	You mean that?
	Outdrop school.
	What's cool?
	Drop the name.
	What's the name of the school?
	You want to shame the school?
	I'm not that evil person.
	I cannot.
	Shame and shame, what was the...
	No, we're not going to shame that.
	I'm just going to leave and just forget.
	This is like Scientology infiltrating Hollywood.
	that's that's like kind of Should I drop the name?
	I mean, it's just shopping, people.
	Like, why do you think that's a good idea?
	It's a public school, right?
	Like, they probably have a website that you can go and sign up for.
	I'm curious.
	What was the class's name?
	What was the name?
	It's the name of the place?
	No, why not?
	It's like Spizors.
	Spis.
	I need to search for Spizors.
	What was the name of the class?
	Was it specifically like a sexual learning class for certain scenes?
	Or was it just like a mob, like what?
	It was a group class for actors.
	Acting students.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	They just did too much.
	Like, I couldn't even.
	This one is the thing that I didn't tell my parents about, but I told my mom that they had really inappropriate things that I did not feel comfortable about, and they always chose me because they would pick on me because I was the one the virgin.
	I was out of it.
	What?
	You told them that you were a virgin?
	They know I was.
	That's like predatory.
	How did they know that?
	Super predatory.
	Because they would ask everyone, and everyone would have these, like, can also when you do improv, they would ask if you were virgin or not.
	Yes.
	Was this an improv class?
	Like, what?
	I mean, because I mean, there's different types of acting classes.
	Like, did you know going into the class?
	Because, like, that's just wild.
	It's just a group class where like anyone can come.
	So it's like beginner, advance, and intermediate.
	So basically, like a free.
	It was the whole class on like sexual experiences.
	Yes, everyone had sexual experience, sexual experiences.
	And like, especially when you did improv and comedy, everyone would have sex stories.
	And that was funny for everybody.
	And I was so out of place because I didn't have any.
	You see?
	Have you seen?
	Who here has seen the 40-year-old virgin?
	Do you know when they're at the poker table and they're like kind of talking about sex and then like the Steve Steve Carell is it?
	He's like, they're like, he's trying to explain his sexual experience.
	He's a virgin.
	And he's 40.
	He's trying to explain his sexual experience.
	And he's like, yeah, she had great tits.
	And they're like, well, tell us about the tits.
	And he's like, yeah, they felt like sandbags.
	Cool.
	And they're like, anyways, I don't know why.
	That just made me think of that.
	Yeah, that class was if I'm glad you're not in it.
	Yeah, the other day with my friends, we were talking about sex scenes in Hollywood and how it just like, it's so gross and like it's doing too much and how like a movie can easily portray that action without actually doing it.
	Because I recently watched a video on like how sex scenes are actually done and the barriers and you're pretty much doing it.
	It's like it's not actually a bag of sand, excuse me.
	Yeah, that's like you can sue them.
	Brian have a funny question.
	Yeah.
	If, oh, if you were dating an actress and she was casted in a role to play a sex scene, like making out full-on sex scene, but there's a thin barrier, would that be cheating?
	Me and my friends were having this debate earlier.
	Would it be cheating?
	Yeah.
	You're in a committed relationship.
	What do you call this?
	She's playing a role that she's in a sex scene and making out with another dude.
	And like in a sex scene.
	Basically.
	I don't know if it's like cheating, but like I would very much not like it and I would ask her not to do it.
	But I still feel like it's cheating, bro.
	I don't know if it's because you're willing to do it for the money, like for the job, for the role.
	still willing to do it I don't know if it's cheating in the sense of like what makes so this is what you're talking about because again what makes it different it's bad on it's bad film you know you're making money so you're playing this role you're making money so you're doing it all of a sudden like it's okay to do it then but if you're just like doing it without making money it's like not a role then it's, you know?
	I don't know if it's cheating, but it's a very, it would be a very desirable undesirable situation.
	Because you still have to be intimate with someone else.
	Right.
	Probably a discussion you have to have to have with your other, like significant other.
	Yeah.
	Some people in the chat say it's cheating.
	I mean, it could go either way.
	In any case, I would not want my partner to do the scene.
	Whether I would categorize it as cheating, It's a I'm leaning towards no, but I wouldn't want her to do it.
	I feel like people in relationships shouldn't do sex scenes.
	Out of respect for your partner.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But this whole, the whole school thing, that's so fucking weird.
	That's really weird.
	It's weird, right?
	That's super weird.
	It's so weird.
	And the fact that every single day is the exact same topic, it's always sexual.
	Wait, wait.
	Sexual, yes.
	You're not exaggerating, but I'm not exaggerating.
	Because I don't want to get you in trouble.
	So you're being like 100% with.
	Yeah, it was really weird.
	Because it sounded like they almost target, like, focused on you because you told them you were a virgin.
	Yes.
	And they're like, whoa, that's really where we're all fucking degenerate sex addicts.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	You know what I mean?
	I see what you mean, yeah.
	It's a dark world of Hollywood praying after young girls.
	Like, you want to make money in the industry, become actors, and like seemingly, hey, come to this class.
	Like, this is what you've got to do in the industry.
	But like, in a class.
	But like, I feel like it's not normal.
	Yeah.
	But I feel like a lot of actors.
	I'm not in acting classes.
	And like.
	I think a lot of young girls, though, I mean, even 20, like, that's a young girl.
	Yeah.
	Are taken advantage of because they feel like, oh, well, I have to go to this class.
	I have to do this in order to make it in the industry.
	But the strange thing is, like, it wasn't even like in a one-on-one private setting.
	Like, this is in front of, what, 30 other people?
	No, it's humiliating.
	It shouldn't be illegal.
	Yeah.
	Or legal.
	Yeah.
	That's like.
	It was like that for the whole year and a half that you were there.
	Yeah.
	And then they would always sign me up for roles to where I was very uncomfortable with.
	That's so sad.
	They wouldn't even get your consent to those roles.
	I don't know.
	I felt like I trusted my teacher too much when I shouldn't have.
	Like I should have.
	At that time, I was 20, you know, like a little younger.
	So it was more like, let me listen to the, to the fact that she was taking advantage.
	Right.
	Did you have any friends also participate in this class or any people?
	Yes.
	Would they be able to vouch for.
	They all knew what they're doing.
	They all knew it.
	Because I was like trying to Google it.
	I was trying to Google it and see if people had mentioned it.
	I couldn't find anything.
	I had a group of five girls all together.
	You know what?
	Everyone know?
	Like every time you go in, there's that group of five girls and I'm one in there like that.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	They all knew who we were.
	Did your teacher always talk about this?
	Wait, was your teacher male or female?
	Both.
	There was both.
	It was male and female.
	That shit is weird, son.
	That shit's weird.
	We have some more notes here.
	We have, let's see.
	Wait, okay, Elizabeth, last thing for you.
	Oh, what is it?
	Actually, never mind.
	Next person, right?
	Ally, you, oh wait.
	No, sorry.
	Amber, excuse me.
	Allie's right.
	I'm offended.
	Allie.
	Hold on, I'm getting the notes here.
	Amber, excuse me.
	So.
	Why can't men be straight up of what type of relationship they have?
	Is emotional cheating worse than physical cheating?
	You said this generation of men ain't shit.
	Okay.
	They want the princess treatment and they want to be chased.
	Yes.
	So there's a couple things there.
	This generation of men ain't shit.
	Princess treatment.
	They want to be chased.
	Wait, question.
	What do you, generally speaking, and we'll go around the table on this.
	What do you think of men?
	It depends on the generation.
	I feel like there's a lot of like my generation, like in the 20s, I feel like it's just like princess era.
	Like, I want to get chased.
	You know, that's what I've seen, you know, maybe because I'm in LA, but in general, like, like I said on the first question, men ain't, you know, because that's what I've seen.
	Like, they just don't want to, like, back to the traditional thing.
	I don't think they want to do that.
	You know, like, they just want to, I don't know, maybe they're not ready yet in this, in their 20s, they're not ready.
	I've just seen a lot of things in like LA.
	You know, I've seen a lot of things of like commitment issues, emotionally unavailable.
	And I'm like, that's not who I that's not what I want.
	You know, some people do, and I feel like men just be straight up with women.
	Like, hey, you know what?
	I just want to mess around.
	I don't want a commitment.
	Be straightforward.
	You know, and that's okay because there's so many women out there that will accept because they don't want that either.
	You know, they don't want to emotionally get attached to you.
	And that's fine.
	You know, there's be straightforward if you actually want a relationship because then what if the woman doesn't?
	You know, like be straight up, guys.
	Like communication.
	Yeah, like be straight up.
	What's wrong with that?
	I don't understand why it's so wrong to say, you know what?
	I just want to have sex with you and that's it.
	I don't want to have a full-on relationship with you.
	Would you, if a guy ever said to you, I just want to have sex with you and that's it, would you have sex with him?
	No, because that's not me, that's the only reason why I don't have sex.
	I don't think men should lie, but I understand, but it's like there's other women that will, though.
	Like, homie, like, there's so many women that will.
	No.
	They, there is.
	No, well, there are women that will, but no, like, there's some degree of like most women, if you, I mean, we've done a video experiment on this.
	You cannot just walk up to a girl and say, hey, do you want to fuck?
	Like, it's not.
	No, not in that way.
	Just be like, hey, you know what?
	Like, I don't want to be a boyfriend right now.
	Like, I just want things to.
	There are girls that are down for like friends with benefits, though.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there are.
	There are, but I'm not saying, I'm not recommending men should lie, but like you wish men were more upfront about what they are looking for.
	I don't think that's hard to ask.
	I think the thing is, though, is that you're not saying when you say, I wish men were more upfront, you're not saying because I would accept whatever they are proposing.
	You're saying, I wish men could be more upfront so I wouldn't, so I could have the reserve of the option and have more knowledge about their motives so I cannot date them.
	Well, so you're not wasting your time.
	If he doesn't want a relationship and you want a relationship and he just wants to hook up, then you want to know.
	But I'm just trying to, I'm trying to explain it from not my point of view, but men who are maneuvering to try to sleep with you.
	That's true, yeah.
	Who might not want to be in a relationship with you?
	Like there is, again, I'm not saying it's a good thing.
	I'm not advocating for it, but I'm just don't shoot the messenger.
	There's a certain degree of gamesmanship that men are going to undertake.
	Like, I love you, babe.
	Like, they're going to, you know, obviously not upfront with that sort of shit, but they're going to fucking play you.
	Yeah, of course.
	There's going to be men.
	Like, a lot of guys will just say what you want to hear to get you in bed.
	Play the game.
	I don't think they're always like that.
	Or most of them.
	That was like a majority of the men that I've experienced.
	I also think that there's some component of, I think some women want plausible deniability.
	They don't want to be like, yeah, I'm just down to fuck.
	Like, they want to frame it.
	Because in case that in the event that maybe it starts casual, but then it leads to something serious, they want the plausible deniability to say, even though I was initially just looking for casual sex, I actually like you and I started liking you.
	I don't want you to think I'm a slut type of thing, you know?
	I mean, it's all about like people's opinion and like they what they want and like the person.
	You know, everybody's different.
	You know, couldn't it be the case that there's a cohort of women that are also down for like friends with benefits or casual sex?
	It's called like couldn't it be the case that there's a cohort of women that would be down for one night stands or casual sex or friends with benefits, but they are gonna play like they want a relationship.
	Liberals.
	I don't, you know what?
	I haven't seen that.
	I haven't seen that, to be honest.
	Like I haven't seen women do that.
	Like I'm in LA and I haven't seen like women really like, oh my god, like let's having a relationship.
	No, then, oh my gosh, I put, you know, I missed, you know, like, I had sex with this guy and then I'm gonna go.
	You know, I think they don't do that.
	They're like, I feel like girls are more upfront to men and being like, I don't want anything serious.
	Fair, but I mean, I said liberals, but it's like kind of true.
	Like, look at the, look at the feminist movement.
	Look at women's marches, my body.
	I can do whatever I want, sexual revolution.
	I can sleep with as many men as I want to.
	And like, this is actually empowering when it's actually quite the opposite.
	It's anti-empowering for a woman to do that.
	And like, I think a large part of the feminist movement has preyed into men, which is why, you know, you said men ain't crap now.
	Well, do you not think like women are kind of to blame for that?
	Because women have been saying, like, I can do it myself, that meant like feminist mentality to where then men are like, all right, then, you know, you pay for the first date.
	Like, I'm not going to be that masculine man because the whole feminist movement is telling me toxic masculinity and embracing my own masculinity is toxic.
	But it's really the opposite.
	We should be encouraging men to be a masculine man, be the provider when that's really what women want.
	Because even the feminist liberal, they still want to settle down eventually and they're still going to have a kid, but then it's a problem when the man wants to provide for the household.
	Like, no, I can do it myself, but then are they really being a mother and a wife?
	No.
	So it's like this whole contradiction, I think, between, if you look at first-wave feminism to now, it's like a funny thing.
	First wave feminists did not fight for your right to be a hoe.
	They fought for your right to vote.
	Like they just, they didn't.
	Because now it's been completely distorted decades later, or really centuries later, of, okay, women can sleep around and that's all of a sudden women's empowerment, but it's not.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it just goes with free will.
	You can do whatever you want, to be honest.
	Like, it's free will.
	Like, yeah, there's consequence to your actions, but I could still do it.
	You know, like, it's like.
	I mean, sure.
	Like, a girl, a woman could sleep with whoever she wants.
	A guy could sleep with whoever she wants.
	But I mean, a girl being a guys are upfront, but they're always going to naturally, instinctually want a relationship and be with a woman, where a girl holds that power.
	And I feel like women nowadays more, it's the feminist side that are like, I can sleep around with whoever I want with no consequences.
	And I mean, that's the same thing with abortion, how that comes into play, too.
	It's like, well, I can sleep with whoever I want.
	I don't want any consequences.
	Let's get on birth control.
	Let's have abortions.
	And I can continue to be empowered.
	Who here's on birth control?
	I have medical reasons, though.
	I used to, yeah, but I hopped off and I feel great.
	I'm actually on hormones right now.
	It pills and hormones.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I have the implant.
	What is it?
	Do you have the arm implant or the IUD?
	Explanon.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I had the IUD for six years and got off of it three months ago.
	This is really wild.
	Sorry, chat.
	I didn't have a period for six years of my life.
	And like, that's not normal.
	And I feel like a huge part of the birth control movement with feminism and like, you know, take control of your body is actually harming women more.
	I mean, it's already statistically like women are attracted to different men when you're on birth control versus off birth control.
	It completely rewires your hormones.
	And it's like we've bought into this lie that this is empowerment when really you're harming yourself.
	Yeah.
	I still like it though.
	Like what?
	My birth control.
	I love it.
	He's like a sniper.
	I love him.
	Who's a sniper?
	My birth control.
	He's like a sniper.
	Because he can't get pregnant.
	It's a boy.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it prevents pregnancy, but you could have lifelong.
	Holy shit.
	That was really loud.
	I mean, sure.
	I mean, it was invented to prevent birth, but the thing is, when you get on it, you don't actually know what the side effects are to you and your attraction.
	You know, you like realize the side effects that it has on you until you get off of it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I mean, I did get off of it for like a couple months and nothing changed.
	I was like, I still feel depressed.
	I'm one of the sons.
	I know what I'm saying.
	Oh, you're still on it, correct?
	Yeah.
	But I went off it and then I went back to get it again.
	I think you have to be off of it for like a consecutive period of time.
	Yeah.
	Like a year.
	I've only been off of birth control.
	I've been off of it for three months.
	I've been on it for 10 years.
	I was on it for seven years.
	Yeah.
	But like I said, they medically found cancer cells in me when I was younger.
	Oh, shit.
	So I had to, yeah, I had to.
	But we're here.
	It's all about it.
	See, and I will say that there are certain medical conditions where birth control, estrogen, supplements is necessary.
	Stand up.
	We are going to work hard.
	I'm not surviving.
	I'm not going to work.
	I'm not going to survive.
	Okay.
	That was cringe.
	Sorry, guys.
	Very.
	Thank you.
	But you know, like widely.
	Yeah.
	It's birth control has been sold as this one size fits all.
	Take this pill.
	You're cured.
	14-year-olds are going to their gynecologist and saying, like, oh, I just got my period.
	Here's birth control.
	When I got off my birth control, my OB was like, are you sure?
	Like, totally gaslit me and telling me like I'm so not validated.
	She's like, you're waiting for marriage.
	Like, that's wild.
	Like, are you sure you want your period?
	Like, this is really weird.
	And I just think like women have largely just been sold like this is your one size fits all.
	Slap on a band-aid.
	Everyone needs to go on birth control.
	I mean, there's different types of birth control.
	Like they can actually regulate some of the ones that they put.
	They put less hormones or more hormones in you.
	But what do you need to regulate?
	Well, there's non-hormonal IUD.
	Just that scares me.
	Like that's one they put in you, right?
	Yeah, I was on an IUD, not the copper.
	They can fall out.
	I had the marina, the hormonal IUD.
	Can't you buy birth control like over-the-counter?
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	There's actually a video.
	Yeah, I did a video on this.
	So there's this new birth control, it's hormonal birth control.
	It's called the OPIL, and it's the first ever over-the-counter prescription or over-the-counter pill birth control.
	So it's just like, you know, if you were to get a pack of birth control pills prescribed, but the thing is, it's now over-the-counter.
	You don't need a prescription, and you can just buy it at a drugstore.
	It's even going to be available in some gas stations.
	And here's my thing: that is so dangerous because think of how many 13 or 14 year old girls who may want to be sexually active, but they don't tell their parents.
	And so all of a sudden they don't go to the doctor's office.
	They just pop into a Walgreens and buy this.
	Think of the girls that are going to abuse it and overtake medications.
	And I think it's just highly unregulated and like not allowed, but it's being pushed because this is accessible for underserved communities.
	But I mean, it's been proven that underserved communities and poor areas, that's where Planned Parenthood started.
	It's because they want you on birth control and they want you to have more and more abortions so you don't actually get pregnant.
	The younger you are, the younger you started.
	I mean, there's girls literally getting on birth control now at 11, 12, 13.
	I mean, I would rather be in birth control than like have a child, low-key.
	So you're saying that is your toxic ex-boyfriend just blasting?
	Is that what you're saying?
	No, but I'm just saying, like, even if he doesn't.
	What happened yesterday?
	Oh, my God.
	What?
	I'm just saying.
	You said you don't want to have a kid.
	You're on birth control.
	I'm just assuming.
	Yeah.
	I mean, later on, yes, but not right now.
	No blasting.
	What does that mean?
	I'm not going to say it, but connect the dots.
	No.
	I still want to be protected as much as I can.
	You never know.
	Stay safe, guys.
	Stay safe.
	Well, sure.
	If you're sexually active, but if you're not.
	I mean, my parents never educated me like in like saves like what sex was and like birth control and all stuff.
	She they never did.
	And I wish they did so I could actually go with them, you know, to like actually get something, you know, together or something like that.
	I had to like ask my friends, you know, like I had to like find out about sex in the playground on like elementary school.
	Like it was crazy to me.
	I think natural cycles.
	Huh?
	Huh?
	That's wild.
	That's wild.
	Yeah.
	And playgrounds.
	It's like, I don't like that.
	You know, like.
	I think what's crazy is that women don't actually know that you can only get.
	And the fucking monkey bars you guys were talking about that shit?
	What the fuck?
	No, it was like this grass area.
	Because I was like, all the grass, the meadow.
	The meadow.
	They eventually educate you about it in like middle or high school.
	In eighth grade.
	Yeah, eighth grade.
	I got it in like sex.
	But it wasn't like, oh my God, it's the debt of like, I got educated about sex editing.
	I heard that.
	Well, sex ed now is starting.
	Yeah.
	But I went to private school, so they teach you sex ed differently, actually.
	Oh, yeah.
	But public school sex ed is like just.
	Is it when a man and a woman they love each other very much?
	Yeah, they like emphasize like, make sure you're married, make sure you're married.
	And they just hug each other and they hold it.
	When they love each other so much, a baby comes out.
	And then nine months later, the stork comes.
	Oh, my God.
	Here's the thing about birth control, though, is women can only get pregnant three to five days out of the entire month.
	So why are we medicating ourselves for 365 days a year when we can really only get pregnant three to five days?
	Where if you just track your cycle properly, don't have sex those days.
	I agree.
	Of course, I'm being safe.
	I pull out.
	Of course.
	So that I agree with you.
	I actually think like five days out of the month, that's when you wear the condom.
	What?
	No.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Hello, GameStrong.
	Brian, no.
	What, huh?
	You just don't do it those five days.
	You've got 25 other days in the month.
	Oh, oral sex is what you're talking about.
	My cousin did that.
	She didn't use birth control at all.
	She used this thing where it tells you when you're fertile.
	Yeah.
	And she, it's like a whole thing.
	Like, it's like this thing where did it have the temperature gauge?
	Or something like that?
	Because if you check your temperature, there's a whole thing about body regulations called natural cycle.
	She did that, and that's how she got pregnant.
	That's also how you get pregnant.
	There's also this thing, like the year, like if you're a Taurus, if it's the month of April, you actually can't get pregnant in that month.
	It's a thing.
	If the moon isn't risen, it's a full moon setting.
	I've tried that before and I did it.
	The Taurus energy.
	Whoa.
	It's a push.
	It applies to every month.
	So if you're fucking Aries, whatever the fuck month that is, you're good to go.
	You don't need.
	Okay, I don't.
	What?
	I'm joking.
	That's a bad joke.
	Okay.
	We have to wrap up here in about 10-ish, 10 minutes or so.
	So I think we're caught up on chats.
	Nick, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Ooh, he was quick.
	Oh, Nick.
	He was quick with that.
	Pretty tough.
	Oh, yeah, Nick.
	Let's fucking go.
	Yo, hey, I want to see W's in the chat.
	I want to see Wick in the chat.
	Wick, W Nick.
	W Nick in the chat.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, Nick, could you move the thing over?
	Yeah, so I think it's the top one.
	Yo, guys, go sub to us on Twitch, twitch.tv slash whatever.
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	Thank you, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so final thoughts here before we wrap up.
	Is there anything before we wrap up that you just really want to get off your chest?
	Maybe men are pissing you off in some way.
	We didn't even get to body count.
	Oh, should we talk about body?
	It's a tradition.
	Is it a tradition?
	It's a tradition.
	I feel like it is the whatever tradition.
	Yeah.
	We just haven't talked about it.
	I've seen it on every video.
	I feel like the whatever.
	And not rating yourself.
	Yeah.
	That's the tradition.
	We'll do it.
	We'll do it.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
	All right.
	He knows.
	He knows.
	You start.
	Honestly, I mean, beauty is so subjective.
	It could be different from my perspective.
	I think I'm a Latina queen, so I'm going to give myself a 10 out of 10.
	Huh?
	Huh?
	Okay.
	You're a Latina queen.
	Yeah.
	I love that.
	Are there different kinds of Latinas?
	Like you have Spanish versus Puerto Ricans, you have Mexicans.
	But we're all the same.
	We're all unified at the end of the day.
	Yeah, we all speak Spanish.
	There's a unified front?
	Yeah, there's a private group.
	I just think being Latino.
	I mean, it's Latina.
	You know, it's Latino Heritage Month, right?
	The what?
	It's Latino Heritage Month.
	Is it?
	I thought it was another month this month, too.
	I thought it was Black Business Owners Month.
	I saw that show on Amazon.
	Black-owned business.
	Make sure you.
	The pride month was in June, but you know, it now is every month, apparently.
	Wait, okay, so you're a Latina queen.
	So you're a 10 out of 10?
	Because you're a Latina queen or just for other reasons?
	I mean, inside and out, I'd say I'm a good person.
	I take care of myself.
	I work out five days a week.
	I love that.
	What do you think about dad bods?
	I love dad bods, actually.
	I really say if you don't have a bonsa, you don't have a chanza.
	A bonsa means a melody.
	I love that.
	Okay, all right.
	I'm very interested.
	Elizabeth, what about you?
	A solid seven out of ten.
	Okay, all right.
	I'll do it eight out of ten.
	Okay.
	I think the last time I said an eight.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Please do not interrupt Sidney Watson.
	Doctor, excuse me.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't get time.
	I've interrupted her.
	Dr. Sidney Watson.
	She just is so shy.
	She is really shy today.
	She's okay.
	What do you rate her?
	She's Australian, huh?
	A 10 out of 10.
	Honestly, she talked some shit about my podcast recently.
	So I'm going to give her a big zero out of 10.
	She talked that shit.
	You know what, Sydney?
	Sydney, listen.
	I know we have our differences, Sidney Watson, Dr. Sidney Watson, but I wish I want to extend out an olive branch.
	I think you're in.
	Are you in LA?
	I don't know.
	You don't have to come on the show.
	I will allow you to take me on the first date.
	You can pay for it.
	I like Mexican food.
	I could have just paused at Mexican.
	I would have loved if you just got to go.
	I can go to Avi Airs.
	Let's go.
	You're going to have to pay.
	But I think it would be productive.
	You know, think about it.
	Sidney Watson.
	Just saying.
	Is she Australian, like, Mexican, or is she like?
	She's a Mexican-Australian, come to think of it.
	That's pretty good.
	I've never heard of that.
	Yeah, it's getting hard to cross the border in the U.S.
	It is from Australians.
	She took somehow a raft over to Australia.
	I don't know how that must, that shit was crazy.
	That's great.
	Am I going to get canceled for saying this, Anna?
	Is this.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how that works.
	There's Mexican Australians.
	I feel like they're an Australian Spanish.
	I'm teamwork.
	feel like wait speaking of this would anybody oh god Morgan, would you.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, no.
	What's wrong with you?
	No, no, you can't say that.
	Say it what is on your mind.
	Never mind.
	No, no, no.
	I want to hear what I did.
	Say it.
	Say it.
	Were you gonna say an immigrant?
	What?
	I mean, I said close the border.
	That's why I said immigrant.
	What do you girls think of that?
	No.
	That she wants to close the border.
	What do you guys think of that?
	I mean, that's a whole other podcast topic, dude.
	That's a whole lot of money.
	We only have 10 minutes left.
	Yeah, that is.
	Welcome to the whatever politics podcast.
	Wait, what?
	I did a what?
	An illegal immigrant.
	It's kind of bad.
	Actively illegal?
	Yeah.
	No, I wouldn't.
	What if.
	Fun fact, my mom's actually an immigrant.
	She immigrated from the Philippines when she was five.
	Wait, your mom's Philippine?
	Filipino.
	Really?
	You're not fine?
	Yeah, I'm Asian.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	What if they're in Dakota?
	What?
	No, like, I am not joking.
	I am 30% Asian.
	Wait, so she's half.
	My mom is a little bit more than half.
	How do you get?
	She's 30%.
	It just works out.
	So what 70% are you?
	Other than that, I'm like British, Scottish, like very European.
	So your mom is.
	I could say, wow.
	Sort of.
	My grandma is full.
	Like, my mom was born in Manila and like immigrated to the States.
	That's my fun fact.
	Yeah.
	My dad.
	But would I date an illegal immigrant?
	No.
	Like, come to the United States properly.
	Give me your forearm.
	No, I am like very white.
	Me too.
	Filipina?
	Are you sure?
	No, I am so serious.
	I believe you.
	I'll show you a photo of my mom, Brian, after.
	And like, she's, she's like a more light-sided person.
	I think this is like cultural appropriation.
	Are you assuming my like ethnicity right now?
	Like, that's kind of racist.
	Like, just call me white.
	Like, I'm a first-generation, like, literally American after my mom.
	You're claiming Filipina, Filipino.
	I'll pull up myancestry.com.
	I'm messing with you.
	I'm messing with you.
	Well, you took a 23andMe or whatever?
	No, ancestry.
	Oh, ancestry.
	I want to do that.
	I want to do 23andMe.
	But anyways.
	A legal immigrant?
	No.
	what if you what if it was like a from what about DACA The Netherlands.
	Like an illegal immigrant from the Netherlands?
	No, like, if you want to come to the United States, come legally.
	Do it the right way.
	Get the papers.
	What about you?
	Like, I know it takes time and I know it takes effort, but like, I know people that it took decades.
	Half my Filipino family that are like my Filipino side of my family are all immigrants.
	I would date an illegal immigrant.
	Me too.
	What if she just wants to get married to get citizenship?
	Hello.
	Obviously, she would love me for me.
	Right.
	Obviously.
	Right.
	That's why.
	She has no ulterior motives.
	Obviously.
	No green card, no citizenship.
	Hey, love is love.
	Okay.
	What?
	Love is love.
	Is it?
	L. Wait.
	Love is love.
	But I mean, sometimes I want a green card.
	Citizen?
	I am.
	Okay.
	I dated a guy that wasn't DACA.
	But my family isn't.
	I would date your family.
	What?
	No, I'm serious.
	Wait.
	You would give them the papers?
	He loves Mexicans.
	What?
	Um.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Any final thoughts?
	Wait, are you upset?
	No.
	Okay, I don't know what.
	No.
	I thought it seemed like you're upset.
	No, no.
	I wish we could have talked about this.
	We had more time.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I would love to come back and talk to you.
	I'm not really good about that.
	I would love to.
	Immigration?
	Yeah.
	I didn't have to come.
	What?
	Another time.
	Another time.
	I didn't bring that up.
	No, I did.
	I don't know, but I just wanted to go to the next one.
	That was definitely Morgan who brought that up.
	I don't want to talk about that.
	Morgan, why you got to throw me under the bus like that?
	I'm sorry.
	My fiancé.
	She took a count of the family.
	I take full accountability for that because I don't remember what you said, but then I just said close the border.
	And then it just worked.
	How do you feel about that?
	I mean, I have, like, here's the thing.
	Like, my grandma literally had to come here because she was getting, she was forced to work in a brothel at eight years old from 15.
	So it's like, I understand that, but when you have no life and that's your life and you have nothing and you will take, you will fucking fight.
	Will walk barefoot through the night of like the fucking terrible terrain just to get out of the way.
	Don't look at me while you're look at Morgan.
	Oh, I know.
	Look at Morgan.
	I know, I know, but I feel like I feel like you're upset at me.
	I feel like you're upset at me.
	And I'm not upset.
	I'm just up at Morgan.
	I'm not upset at all.
	Trust me, because I have friends that are like super lucky.
	Yeah, America.
	So, like, it's fine.
	You should see her Instagram, okay?
	It's like, she's got Trump hats.
	No, you don't.
	She's got a Trump flag.
	Nick, pull it out.
	Wait, it's not even political because I'm not physical.
	I still love Daddy T, okay?
	It's just lay it out.
	Wait, Nick, can you pull up the photo that we showed last time?
	You know which one I'm talking about?
	Yeah.
	Topical.
	Let's pull that up.
	We're going to react to it really quick.
	Next time we should rate people's Instagrams.
	Are you coming back?
	I don't know.
	Do you want me back?
	I'd be down to have you back.
	I feel like I interrogated you quite a bit, though, so I don't.
	I mean, I love QA's.
	Okay.
	I want a three-week update.
	Yeah, I went.
	Yeah, no, I need an update.
	I'm wearing a lot of things.
	We need an update from you.
	Oh, yeah.
	We need to know what the situation is.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	What if it was like false the whole time?
	Allegedly.
	What you've just been lying about.
	That's wonderful.
	Well, don't you have to say allegedly to everything that you do?
	Because then you can get in lawsuit and stuff like that.
	I don't think your boyfriend's going to throw.
	Let's follow a lawsuit because you said he allegedly.
	That's going to be an awkward.
	He's probably for sure watching this.
	That's going to be an awkward as fuck.
	My friend is watching.
	Dylan.
	You have a male friend?
	Well, yeah.
	It's not allowed.
	Kevin Delbas Renai.
	Girl, Bashman.
	Haram.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, my God.
	What?
	Oh, he's watching me.
	He said he was going to put it in his big TV, too.
	Nick, do you have the photo?
	Yeah, I searched it up, but it's all with me, so it's.
	Yes!
	What?
	What is that?
	That is Trump.
	Getting arrested last week.
	He couldn't just find the tilt his head, though.
	The camera angle is really low.
	Nick, right-click on the photo and do open an image and new tab.
	His control tab over.
	I um if he could have just like you know, like if he saw the camera, he could have just, okay, so question for all the girls here: would you date Donald Trump?
	Fuck no.
	Excuse my language.
	No.
	Okay.
	No, I mean, not because like anything.
	Like, I just.
	Allie.
	I just.
	Wait.
	Amber.
	I'm talking about.
	Okay, you know what?
	I'm Allie.
	It's okay.
	I'm Amber.
	It's okay.
	You know?
	I'm Allie.
	She's Amber.
	You know, the best of the world.
	Question: If you were in bed with the guy and during the act, he called you another girl's name.
	Is it over?
	Over.
	Oh, definitely.
	It's over.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Yeah, it's over.
	What if it was like you had kind of similar names?
	No, that's still over.
	Okay, question, question.
	What if it was like, like, your name's Allie, right?
	And you're in bed with a guy and it's going, it's going good.
	It's going good.
	Yeah.
	And he's like, oh, Gertrude.
	Gertrude!
	Is that No Would that be That's a no.
	I'd be like, I would literally stop and be like, who is Gertrude?
	Not a good look?
	No.
	Have you done that?
	Have you done that?
	No.
	I haven't said Gertrude, but I did say Patricia's kind of old.
	I'm like, Barbara?
	Barbara.
	Actually, I knew a young Barbara.
	Hillary?
	Hillary.
	What's like an old.
	Yo, chat, What's an old lady name?
	Gretchen.
	Oh, yeah.
	I knew a young Gretchen.
	I knew a young Gretchen.
	Chat, what's an old lady name?
	Person?
	Olga.
	Olga.
	I feel like that's too European, though.
	Yeah, that's a very European name.
	Guys, guys, give me like an old lady name that would be ridiculous to say.
	Myrtle.
	Ooh.
	Oh, my God.
	Imagine.
	Mildred.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Mildred.
	Edith.
	But here's like the reverse.
	Like, if you're with a girl and she's like, oh, Bartholomew.
	Bartholomew is like an old, like, like, English.
	That's a good name.
	I knew a Bartholomew and he went by bar.
	Can you really talk dirty if the dude's name is Bartholomew?
	I know.
	I know an Aristotle.
	Oh, Bartholomew.
	That's very, like, spelling.
	What about like Meredith, Lucille?
	Lucille.
	Deborah, Martha, Helga.
	Agnes.
	Agnes.
	Lucille is named.
	Mabel.
	Mabel.
	You look great.
	Matilda.
	Ben White.
	Betty White.
	Ben White.
	Dorothy, Maxine.
	Blanche.
	Estelle.
	Somebody said your name.
	Billy.
	Brian.
	Esther.
	Nah, Esther's biblical.
	Inez.
	What is it?
	Abigail.
	Beatrice.
	I would say Laquisha.
	Winifred Zelda.
	Mabel.
	Mabel's like old one time.
	Dolores.
	Oh, my God.
	Judy.
	Is coming back to her.
	That's another.
	What was that show on HBO?
	What was that show?
	Westworld.
	One of the main characters was called Dolores.
	Okay.
	Wait, what were we talking about?
	We were.
	Would you date Donald Trump?
	Oh, yeah.
	Would you date Donald Trump?
	No, I don't think he's my type.
	Oh, okay.
	I've been to Mar-a-Lago.
	I love the Trump family.
	Voted for him twice.
	We'll do it again.
	And no, I couldn't do it.
	What about one of his sons?
	Are any of them single?
	Oh, that's 6'5.
	I mean, his, like, his youngest son.
	Baron.
	No, no, no.
	Well, he's Eric, Don Jr.
	No, they're bad.
	There's like the older guys.
	Eric's married to Laura.
	Don Jr. is engaged.
	We're married to Kimberly.
	Okay.
	Wow, you're keeping a bit too young for you, Marlon.
	Baron's young.
	Yeah, he's young.
	No, Mar-a-Lago is a great place.
	Trump family, they're great, but would not date Donald Trump.
	All right.
	Madison, would you date?
	Narrator.
	Narr.
	I don't like dating older, older, older.
	Yeah, I already said my cutoff is like 29.
	My cutoff is like 85.
	What's your cutoff?
	35.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	That's normal.
	Final thoughts.
	They're all quick, quick.
	Any final thoughts, anybody?
	I love you guys.
	Thank you, Seth.
	You said a lot today.
	Yeah, this was a good show.
	Got it promoted.
	Interesting.
	It was a smell group, but it was really like, we had some good points of views.
	Like, it wasn't really nice.
	Make Madison great again.
	Yeah.
	That's why I said interesting.
	Body jump.
	Oh, we could really quickly.
	You said this generation of men ain't shit.
	Do you guys agree with that?
	No.
	No, no.
	I think it's just generalized.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I still have hope for you guys.
	For men.
	There you have it.
	Men just need to have masculinity.
	You have like 30% chance, guys.
	30% with what?
	Don't back down.
	Don't worry.
	I'm not backing down.
	I feel like girls will go through one bad experience with like two guys and be like, men ain't shit.
	But I've had a lot of fun.
	That's super true.
	That is very, very, very good.
	They have like two.
	Like, that's two guys out of fuck boys.
	Like, they pick the wrong dudes.
	And then we're like, oh, all guys are fucking dicks.
	It's like, okay.
	I think my best advice is like, especially you, because you're still like, you know, your young 20s, like date as much people, different types as you can.
	You don't have to necessarily sleep with them, but like, you know, just get to see what you like and stuff because, you know, I'm still tired of it going on date.
	Just be friends with guys.
	Like, you'll be friends with the guys.
	I love, I always tell people, like, you should be friends with someone first and then see if they don't like it.
	Yes, because you don't talk about that.
	That's what I do.
	For sure.
	I'm being a hypocrite.
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	Disavow.
	I don't think you should be friends with somebody first.
	Why not?
	Yeah.
	You said you had a male friend, didn't you?
	Yeah.
	Why should a male that makes me question every single male friend you have?
	If you should start as friends, and then it should lead into a romantic relationship.
	Hold on.
	I think romantic relationships ought to start from the jump romantically.
	Now, of course, look, if you're, if you have a friend and it develops, that's okay too.
	But I'm not, I certainly don't think it's wrong to like, from the moment you meet somebody for it to have like romantic undertones.
	I think that's super normal.
	That's fine.
	But I think you can develop feelings like if you're like friends in class first and then like it.
	Yeah, you can.
	You can.
	But this idea that, oh, let's start as friends.
	Oh, no.
	I think that's the dude just like being a P-word because the guy needs to just be a third of you.
	Yeah, hey, I like it.
	I like to get to know each other because get to know each other, not just over strictly friends.
	Friends, no, but it's like, as a guy, if, I mean, it's like a friend zone.
	You don't want to be friend zoned.
	Like, if you're being upfront with your romantic interests and she's like, let's start as friends.
	That's like goodbye.
	Like, that's your friend zone.
	I feel like a guy should just be afraid of it.
	It's like friend zoning at that point.
	I'm like, you're not that into me.
	Yeah, do you think if you're in a relationship, you should have no male friends?
	For a gal.
	I do think it's a bit of a red flag if a girl has a lot of male friends.
	That's true.
	A lot of people.
	What if she just has a few male friends?
	What if it's like a child?
	Here's the thing.
	I think women can genuinely have friendships with men.
	It's not clear to me if men can genuinely have friendships with women.
	Because women can put a hole in front of her.
	Because you know, if a girl told the guy, hey, I want to hook up, you know, he's in a child.
	He would say yes, totally.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Of course, if he's both in a relationship.
	I also think there's boundaries.
	If you're in a relationship, you're not hanging out with a guy friend alone.
	You're not like late night calling a guy alone.
	But like if your boyfriend or husband is also friends with that person, same thing with like, you know, there's multifamily friendships, family friends.
	Yeah, that's, I mean, if it's, I think that's okay, but it's all about boundaries.
	Like, that's the thing, like, most guys, but like a girl, yeah.
	Most guys who you would consider to be your friends, if you were like, hey, do you want to hook up?
	Assuming they're single, right?
	Or maybe even if they're in a relationship, if you said, hey, do you want to hook up?
	They're probably say yes.
	True.
	Here, you have a male friend you want to text.
	Your male friend, Dylan, what's his name?
	Dylan.
	Is he watching right now?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so I was going to say text him and say, hey, do you want to hook up?
	I think if a guy has an opportunity, I think if he had the opportunity, that little door, like, I feel like it is true.
	Yeah.
	Because girls put boundaries, but men obviously, you know, you know.
	Nine times out of ten, it's the girlfriend's guy.
	And then the guy's like, okay, well, I'll still be your friend.
	Yeah.
	That's boundaries.
	And I think there's like a lot of male friends that are like, they like you, and they're just biting their, maybe you're in a relationship.
	They're going to be there.
	Some guys aren't bad enough either.
	They know who cares.
	Like, that's on them if they want to think that and not be straightforward, you know?
	Like, that's on them.
	If you want to waste your time, okay, then go ahead.
	That's not my problem.
	But it would make, it wouldn't perhaps make your boyfriend uncomfortable for you to have a relationship, a friendship with somebody who has these ulterior relationships.
	But did he tell me?
	Because if he didn't tell me, how am I supposed to know?
	What about a gay best friend?
	I mean, he's, I mean, I don't mean to say that.
	I know a lot of best friends that are like friend, best friends with girls.
	They like kiss and think it's fine.
	You know, I've seen it.
	Because they're gay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what was the thing you said before?
	What?
	What did I say?
	I had a response to something, but it slipped my mind.
	I said about friends.
	Dylan.
	I said, if you never, like, actually, if they never tell you, like, how would I know?
	Oh, like, if the guy who's your friend doesn't tell you.
	Because you can just tell.
	You can just tell.
	Every single male friend of yours wants to sleep with you.
	Okay.
	Like.
	But am I going to let them?
	No.
	No, but like if they're secretly like waiting for the opportunity for you to be single, it's like pretty bad luck.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't think that's a good thing.
	But I do think that you like can have like a genuine relationship.
	I think it depends.
	Just like a guy.
	Depends on a person.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But like very rarely ever does that happen.
	Like my friend Dylan.
	He's so nice.
	He is really nice.
	I love him.
	This song is great.
	For me personally, I grew up with older brothers, so it's easy for me to bro a guy.
	You know what I mean?
	What a guy?
	To call him like a brother or bro him.
	Sure.
	So there wouldn't be any romantic.
	Okay.
	We have to wrap up the show, guys.
	Dylan, you son of a.
	Is he in the chat?
	Dylan, a hostage?
	I've just seen these little girls.
	I love people.
	Yeah, he used to like be with you guys, girls, and stuff like that.
	But he has like a whole story, and I love stories about dating because it's so interesting.
	Like it was just a whole thing.
	Like she had a whole boyfriend.
	Like it was just a whole thing.
	He didn't know about it.
	Like it was a whole thing.
	Anyways, I love the chat.
	I love the mean comments about the shower.
	Only if we take a shower together.
	Word.
	Okay, guys, last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports.
	Nice video 2020.
	I see you.
	Amber, Mary Me, James.
	Why would I do that?
	Okay.
	Thank you to the panel, those of you who showed up.
	Thank you to our chat mods.
	No, approach.
	Thank you to Britt, who is helping with time stamps.
	Any women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever.
	Any women who are considering a labia place to my DMs are open.
	I'll convince you as part of my nonprofit organization, Big Labia Matter, to, you know, not.
	Are you considering a labia placey?
	I'm just like cheering you on.
	Oh, I thought you said me.
	Yes.
	I don't know what that means, but yes.
	You don't know what a labia placey is?
	No.
	Let's look up pictures.
	I'm kidding.
	Okay.
	No, I'm not going to do that.
	No, it's not.
	Actually, I don't want to give you that.
	Yo, guys, so the schedule for this week.
	Oh, my God.
	No, my body count is not over 30, guys.
	Oh, body count.
	Okay.
	What's your body count?
	Co-three.
	Stop the cap.
	Okay, I grew up Christian.
	I only had my first boyfriend, I never did anything because then, like, it was Christian.
	Like, we were like, actually.
	And then the second one, I didn't really do anything because I was still a Christian.
	Then the third one, like, the third boyfriend that I had, I did do stuff with.
	And then, wait.
	If you count oral sex, what does that change things?
	No.
	Because I've only had like four boyfriends.
	Still three?
	Yeah.
	I've only had four boys.
	How many?
	Yeah, what's your shower count?
	What's my show count?
	I was about to ask.
	Okay, okay.
	My show count is two.
	Okay, all right.
	Body count?
	Zero.
	Zero?
	Next.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	Like, be honest.
	I don't really count that.
	Like, I'd have to sit down and like, but it wouldn't take me long.
	But, I mean.
	Let's count.
	We've got time.
	Sort of.
	You're counting.
	I'm thinking.
	I'm literally thinking.
	I'm being honest here.
	It's fine.
	Take your time.
	I have six.
	Think about it.
	I lost my virginity when I was 18.
	I was with the guy for three years, so it makes sense.
	Wait.
	How old are you?
	We broke up when we were 22, and I'm 26 now.
	And then I was in 26.
	I don't entertain a lot of men.
	I don't have time.
	All right.
	All I care about is video games.
	Six?
	You look good.
	You said you had a count, though.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, because I don't like think, hey, I fucked this guy tonight.
	Let me add it to my list.
	Like, you know how some, like, you know what I mean?
	Multiply it by three.
	Well, what the f- Multiply it by three.
	Multiply by three.
	Okay.
	Sidney Watson.
	Okay.
	Can we zoom in on her?
	Mew.
	100.
	Oh, my God.
	Sidney.
	Dr. Sidney Watson, you have, you have quite a quite a lot.
	Because she see, she has like hair all over her eyes.
	She does that to hide her shame.
	Okay, Morgan, what about you?
	I stand by what I said last podcast, and I'm not going to share.
	And I think I'm not disclosing, but I do think that body count is something that should be discussed in a serious relationship because it does matter, which is why I don't share.
	Okay.
	Madison.
	Eight.
	What?
	She's eight.
	Sorry, I'm a bit hard of hearing.
	Okay.
	There you have it, folks.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	See, guys, but I got to come in here in Madison's defense, right?
	She has, despite her sordid, I'm kidding.
	Her sordid past.
	Just kidding, Madison.
	She has turned a new leaf.
	I have.
	She has been in a long-term relationship with Franklin.
	Wait, what's it?
	Is it short for Franklin?
	No, his name on, like, his name is just Frankie, not even Frankie.
	It's just Frankie.
	Yay.
	She is committed to Frankie.
	She has seen the light.
	Yes.
	She's on a new path of righteousness and dignity and grace.
	Appreciate you, Nick.
	Okay.
	As far as me, as a man of God, I do not share my body count.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	So the schedule for next week, the schedule for next week, or sorry, this week, we are doing a show on Thursday and Tuesday.
	So we're doing three shows this week.
	Tuesday is 5 p.m.
	Assuming we don't have any hiccups with our pre-show.
	Should be live at 5 p.m.
	I know we started late today.
	Although lately, guys, I don't know if you, we've been pretty good with starting like pretty much on time for what, the past month or two.
	I think it's been really consistent.
	With starting on, you know, we used to be like 10, 15, 20, 30 minutes late a lot of time, but now we're pretty good with it.
	So Tuesday, 5 p.m.
	Thursday, we're going to do 7 p.m. Thursday show, we have a very, very, very special guest coming.
	Very big guest coming.
	Arguably our biggest guest ever.
	No way.
	Potentially.
	I don't want to reveal it because I don't know.
	I don't want anything to throw, you know, somehow interfere with that.
	But be sure to tune in Tuesday.
	Tune in Thursday.
	We'll see you then.
	Guys, we will see you next time.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	Good night, guys.
	Good night.
	Bye bye.
	Bye, guys.

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