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RUDE Girl INSULTS Brian?! She Is DATING 10 Men?! | Dating Talk #97

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Grace.
	I'm 29 years old.
	My occupation, I'm a content creator.
	I'm a comedian.
	I do stand-up comedy.
	And I'm all around silly goose.
	What kind of content creation do you do?
	I do social media content.
	I also do spicy content.
	Okay, OF?
	I do OF, yes.
	Do you do any traditional adults content, let's say?
	I would say like softcore.
	Thank you, FTG, for the control.
	I do traditional and non-traditional adult content.
	Okay, cool.
	What about you?
	Raw Rock Canups.
	I'm 24 and I am a corn star.
	I think you're a little too far.
	Can I have you scoot into the table, please?
	Rob Rock and Ups, 24, Corn Star.
	Okay.
	And you do like traditional adult content.
	Okay.
	What kind of companies have you worked with?
	Olivixon, Tinski, Black, Slade, Deeper.
	Oh.
	A bunch.
	Team Ski.
	Any bang bus in there?
	No bang bus.
	No bang bus.
	They're in Florida, aren't they?
	Yeah, Florida, they're Miami.
	Okay.
	It's in the works, though, right?
	Maybe in the future.
	Maybe in the future.
	Okay, I'll get you set up, I guess.
	I have no idea.
	I have no connections with them.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am Gianna Dior.
	I am actress, model, corn star.
	I have been on Bang Bus.
	Browsers.
	Vixen.
	Browsers.
	Congrats.
	Browser's Vixen, all of them, every single one.
	She's 26.
	Oh, 26.
	26.
	Thank you.
	I'm Alexa.
	I'm 30, and I'm a general manager at a gym.
	Any adult content?
	No.
	Can I have you tilt your mic so it's kind of straight on?
	More like this.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Okay.
	My name is Madison.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I work for the Whatever podcast.
	I am also a host at a bar as well as a student at Santa Barbara City College studying business and accounting.
	I am Micah.
	I'm a model and a content creator, and I am 23 years old.
	What kind of content do you make?
	I do social media, so I like TikTok, but I also am an OF model as well.
	So I do make that content.
	What do you do on OF?
	It's more traditional.
	So spicy content.
	I mean, so solo content, boy girl, girl, girl?
	All.
	All of the above?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm Olivia.
	I'm 23, and I model, and I'm also a creator.
	Hold on.
	Okay, what kind of, what do you create?
	Just like on Instagram and TikTok.
	OF or no?
	No.
	No?
	Fansly?
	Patreon?
	No.
	I don't know what the other ones are.
	Not yet.
	Nothing yet.
	Oh, not yet.
	So it's in the works or what?
	Maybe.
	Hurrah!
	Okay.
	Sorry if you have to.
	Hi, I'm Caitlin.
	I am 23 years old.
	I'm a university student, and I have our 10.
	What do you study in university?
	It was kinesiology, and then I'm making a dramatic change of major in the works to business.
	Okay, got it.
	Just a couple questions.
	So you do like boy girl content, but on OnlyFans.
	You guys work with like actual production companies.
	Do you do that too, or you're just OF?
	No, I'm not in the industry officially.
	I just do OF.
	Okay.
	Do you do BG content on OF or solo?
	What do you do on there?
	I do solo content.
	I have a little bit of BG content.
	I do a lot of girl-girl content.
	Okay.
	I love the ladies.
	Gotcha.
	Did I ask which production companies you've shot with too?
	Vixen, Browser.
	The same ones as well.
	Bangbuys.
	Blacked.
	Was blacked in there.
	But there was AVN Performer of the Year multiple years in a row.
	Yeah.
	AVN Performer of the Year.
	Yeah, I won that 20, I don't know.
	2017?
	She did 200 in a row.
	You don't remember?
	I won a lot of them.
	I won a lot of awards.
	I don't really remember the years.
	2019, 2020?
	I think it was 201, 2020.
	After COVID.
	I think it was last year.
	No, wait, it was 2022.
	That was last year.
	What's the trophy that you get?
	Do you get a trophy?
	Yeah, I have like fucking 15 of them.
	You got 15 AVN trophies.
	Do you have any AVN trophies?
	Where are they at?
	Where are they at?
	They're coming.
	They're leaving you out.
	They're coming.
	They're leaving you out.
	It's in the works.
	Okay.
	What do the trophies look like?
	Are they just penises or how does that work?
	No, actually.
	It's like two people, and they're kind of like intertwined, so it's like, I don't know.
	Intertwined?
	It's gold.
	FTG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
	It's a gold.
	It's a really heavy gold trophy and like two people intertwined.
	It's cool.
	Have you tried to sell one on eBay?
	No, I'm keeping those forever.
	Forever.
	Yeah.
	you're gonna put them in your do you have like a because you have so many are you gonna have like a a uh what do they call them like a trophy A showcase.
	Like a showcase.
	It's like a shelf thing.
	You've got a shelf.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	They're getting heavy though.
	Okay, there you go.
	All right.
	Huh, nice.
	Do you also, if you win an AVN, do you also, is there like a prize money or not?
	It's just that the accolade ranks.
	Okay, there you go.
	Well, we're gonna go around the table once more.
	So, what is your current relationship status?
	Are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule, sex cult?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's your longest relationship?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently single.
	I've been single for about two years.
	My longest relationship was around four years.
	Okay.
	I am in a couple situationships.
	My longest relationship was six years.
	Thought I was going to marry the guy.
	His parents bought us a house and everything.
	And then I broke up with him and moved to LA.
	And I don't know if I believe in monogamy, though.
	Your longest relationship is six years?
	Six years.
	And you're 24 now.
	So did this end recently or was this like a somewhat high school?
	It's 2020.
	Okay, so it was like 16 to 22-ish.
	Okay, so it started in high school and then...
	Yeah, but he was older.
	So I was 16, he was 21.
	But then I dated him for 16 years.
	That's probably illegal.
	That's it.
	His parents bought us a house and I got a lot of people.
	But I don't think that I got to live a really good life for a while, but then I got to.
	Well, it's not so much on you, but it doesn't.
	He was a good guy.
	He was a really good guy.
	But I got to live that housewife lifestyle for a really long time.
	And I had an itching of wanting to do something else with my life.
	I think you're a little too far from the microphone.
	I had an itching to wanting to do something else with my life.
	You had an itch?
	An itch.
	I was just like, physical itch.
	Like something was inside of me.
	I wanted to experience more life.
	Is she too far from the mic?
	Okay, go ahead.
	And then I broke up with him and moved to LA.
	Were you in California during this?
	I was in Vegas.
	In Vegas.
	And you were with him for six years and you were engaged, but you didn't get married.
	Not engaged.
	Fiancé.
	Ish.
	Ish.
	He bought you a house?
	My parents did.
	The parents bought you a house?
	The house was or is in your name?
	Or you were just, it was their house, but you were living in it?
	Well, they bought it for us to live in.
	Oh, so it wasn't in my name.
	You didn't have Aquity in the house.
	No, yeah.
	You were living in the house with your then boyfriend.
	Okay.
	I heard about this thing recently called palimony.
	So in some states, if you've cohabited and it's separate.
	It's 10 years, right?
	Yeah, but you didn't go for palimony, did you?
	No, I don't give a shit about palmony.
	But so you moved to LA.
	To LA.
	Matt Adam 22.
	He became my manager.
	Oh, Adam 22.
	Is he still your manager?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you do the management for Plug Talk.
	Is that it?
	Both of you or just you?
	and so do you book are you like booking guests or just kind of what do you mean booking guests Well, you're managing the plug talk, right?
	The podcast.
	They manage me.
	Oh, they met.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I got confused.
	Adam and Leonard are my managers.
	Okay.
	I thought, okay, okay, I get it.
	Okay.
	And how long have they been managing you for?
	Since March of last year.
	So like a year and a half.
	Okay.
	And so you moved to LA and immediately got linked up with.
	Well, I moved here at like end of COVID, so like August of 2020.
	Then I met them.
	No, yeah.
	Does that make sense, Matt?
	Yeah.
	2021, March.
	So yeah, it's been a year and a half, yeah.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	Has anyone ever told you, like, you could.
	Have you seen Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon?
	No.
	You could play it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I have gotten that.
	Oh, you've okay.
	Yeah, I have gotten that one.
	I've never watched it.
	You said you were in a couple situationships.
	I am.
	How many are we talking here?
	I love my little booze.
	I think, can you try to just try to just scoot into the table just a tad?
	We just want to get you a little closer to.
	I know it's a little tight there.
	I love my booze.
	I love having a lot of guys that I have for like different phases of my life.
	But I also don't, after my like long-term relationships, I just can't get into something like full-blown serious because it just I just can't do it.
	I just can't do it.
	At this age, 24, I just can't do it.
	You said you had a couple guys for your different phases.
	So do you mean like you have one guy who's really good in bed, another guy who takes you out on romantic dates?
	And different personalities for different things or like different moods that I'm in.
	Different moods?
	Different moods?
	How many are we talking about split personalities here?
	What are we talking about?
	Like bipolar?
	Is there a little bipolar going on?
	No, just is there such a thing as tripolar?
	Can you be tripolar?
	Probably.
	There's like multiple personality disorder.
	Is that what you have?
	What do you think?
	No, I'm just asking.
	I'm just asking.
	Well, okay, there's an argument for multiple personality disorder.
	There's debate as if it's real or not.
	Okay.
	Some people think it is.
	So is that what you got diagnosed with?
	And then?
	You know, no, I have not been diagnosed with that.
	I have been diagnosed with something with authority.
	Authority?
	Yeah, like I got diagnosed with something with authority.
	Like I don't like authority, but I think that you get over it when you're older.
	Okay.
	Real.
	Do you know what the actual team is?
	It's oh, yes.
	Opposition to authority disorder.
	I've never heard of that one.
	Yeah, it's.
	I think that's just not being tolerant of it.
	I mean, exactly.
	I'm like, not even sure that it's real either, but that's the only thing a doctor ever told me that I have.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Have you ever, so like if you were in a situation where the police were trying to arrest you, would you like fight back?
	Um.
	It's a police officer.
	If it was like wrongful, I would probably try and convey that.
	It comes out at like amusement parks and like movie theaters and stuff.
	I really don't like.
	Like I see it when like an employee is like taking their job too seriously.
	That like actually really upsets me.
	But could you argue that's a disability?
	Like if you were to go to court and you could say no.
	If I didn't.
	If it made me get out of something, then yes.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think that if you commit a crime, if you have something necessary, you're not going to be able to do that.
	I mean, maybe I didn't know better.
	But so going back to you, we were talking about you have a couple different situationships.
	So different phases.
	Like I have like, one of the guys is 22, so it's like he's like younger.
	I'm like, who grew over here?
	One guy's like 40.
	It's like different.
	Wait, sorry.
	So one guy's 22, one guy's 30.
	Another one is 39.
	So it's like they're all in different places of their life, so they bring different benefits to my life.
	Can you expand?
	Like what are the differences that each one is bringing?
	The guy that's almost 40, he's very like caretaker, very like wants to settle down with me, but I'm just like not in that place.
	So he brings like very safety net vibes.
	The 30-year-old, he's still a little bit of a cracky.
	Like he still likes to get done.
	Crackhead?
	What?
	Cracky?
	What's cracky?
	Like him?
	He's like a cracky.
	Like he's just like he still is in his era where he likes to have a good time, but like he has a lot of money, so he's able to crack.
	What is crack?
	Are you being dumb?
	No, I don't move in the same circles as you do.
	But like you can't like figure out what that means.
	Cracky.
	Like he cracks.
	He's unhinged.
	He has a good time.
	Yeah.
	He does drugs.
	Yeah.
	Well, not in like a bad way, not like meth, but like he just casual heroin.
	No heroin.
	No heroine addiction.
	Well, okay.
	And then there's a 22-year-old.
	Yeah.
	He's for fucking.
	Just for funsies.
	I love him.
	Well, is there more than that, though?
	There's a couple others, right?
	No, those are like the three main ones.
	The three main ones.
	That I'm like really comfortable with.
	Like, those are the ones that I'm like really comfortable with that I'll call them and like.
	They're your three main.
	Are there any side hoes?
	You got any side hoes?
	Side pieces?
	Yeah, occasionally.
	Occasionally.
	What do we give us some details?
	Once a month.
	I'm not.
	Once a month.
	Yeah.
	With like a regular guy, but he's a side piece or like just a new, a new guy will circle in, circle out.
	Okay, both.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do they know the three main guys, do they know about each other?
	No.
	You think they're watching the podcast right now?
	You're kind of snitching on yourself here.
	They definitely have seen me on podcasts before.
	Okay.
	Well, are they, is there, I mean, are they loyal to you?
	No.
	Or they're probably seeing other women, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, not that they're not the one.
	Not the old guy.
	No, the old guy wants to marry me.
	Love him if he's watching.
	Okay.
	He's amazing.
	He's a good guy.
	But the younger ones, they're living their truth.
	And I support them.
	Okay.
	What's the, so right now it's three.
	Has there ever been a period of time where you had even more main pieces, like five dudes?
	No, but my ex-boyfriend of six years, love him, really good guy.
	The last year of our relationship, I started cheating on him with a guy in LA.
	And that guy was the one who told me to break with your boyfriend, moved to LA.
	And that's how I moved to LA.
	Wait, so your six-year relationship, was he, it was monogamous up until the five-year mark when you started cheating.
	Was he cheating on you too?
	He's a good boy.
	And you were in Vegas, sort of at the time.
	stripper okay you were stripping uh in vegas at the rhino Oh, at the Rhino.
	Okay, we got one of those here.
	I spent many years there.
	Why did you cheat on your six-year relationship?
	I was so bored and so young.
	And just like, when you're that young, it's like you don't know what you want in life.
	And like in the moment, it seems like a good setup.
	And you think you're happy and content.
	And then you reach like 20, 21, and you're like, oh, fuck.
	Like, I have a lot of life to live.
	And like, I didn't want to stay in Nevada.
	And then I met this guy who was like my dream guy, who was like so fucking hot.
	And like my ex-boyfriend of six years, we stopped having sex.
	Like I wasn't sexually attracted to him.
	It was just like we were so comfortable and like family and like roommates at that point.
	But like just there was no sexual romantic aspect to it.
	So then I met that guy and I was like, oh fuck, there's a lot of life out there for me.
	Why didn't you just like break up with him instead of cheat on him?
	Well then I did break up with him.
	Well after you cheat on him?
	Well it takes a when you're with someone for six years and you have so many entanglements of like life like real life aspects like bank accounts like all that shit family you can't just break up with them when you're six years deep.
	You guys were sharing a bank account or there was a lot of shit entangled.
	When you're with someone for six years take a week or two to untangle?
	No, it just takes longer than that.
	What?
	What's your longest relationship?
	Five years.
	Okay.
	Are you still with me?
	There was no tangle.
	No.
	There was no entanglements.
	There was no one tangle with them.
	Not we weren't living together, no shared bank accounts.
	You guys were together for five years and lived together?
	No, never lived together.
	I think that's a NL.
	Yeah, I don't like that.
	Together.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't count.
	What do you mean?
	It was five years.
	You guys didn't live together?
	Unless you live together, then it's hard to get together.
	Live together with other exes, like with other relationships, but not the five-year girl.
	Not the five-year girl.
	That's insane.
	But you live with girls.
	There's circumstances.
	Circumstances.
	Exactly.
	Entanglements.
	There's different situations for different parts of your life.
	Okay.
	Do you still strip or not anymore?
	No, I don't need to.
	Don't need to?
	Okay.
	When did you start stripping?
	18?
	19.
	19?
	Okay.
	Wait, okay.
	But the guy was older.
	Okay, we went to the bottom of the page.
	But he was like my biggest supporter.
	He let me do whatever I wanted.
	He was really supportive.
	Okay, he was fine with it.
	I've just always been like a freebird, just wanted to do it.
	Yeah.
	Was that the only time you cheated on them?
	Yeah.
	That guy?
	Yes.
	Come on.
	I don't know.
	It took you a little while to answer that one.
	No, I've actually talked about this on podcast before, so I know he's seen it.
	So yeah, that was the only one.
	No, but I mean, like, with the six-year relationship, you said at the end you cheated, but at any other point in the relationship, like two years in, three years in.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Relationship situation.
	Yeah, what was the question?
	So just current relationship status.
	I'm single.
	Single.
	I keep rosters.
	That's my thing.
	You got a roster.
	Okay.
	So three.
	Okay.
	What's your roster looking like here?
	And how many professional athletes are on it?
	I have one.
	One of my teams.
	Oh, you have one guy.
	One of my situationships.
	Oh, is it the young guy?
	The 30?
	He's older.
	30 or 10.
	NBA, NFL.
	What are we talking here?
	NFL.
	I don't know if we could say.
	Chargers?
	Is it the Chargers?
	Wait, the Rams.
	No, is it the LA Rams?
	No.
	Yeah.
	For you?
	Who are we talking about?
	Tell us the team.
	Don't tell us the team team.
	How about offense or defense?
	I'm not telling T on this.
	I think it'd be offense.
	Offense.
	It's offense.
	Oh, for you?
	I was asking her.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	For you?
	For her, it's offense.
	I'm not saying anything.
	I'd be the fifth.
	So, okay, you've got a roster.
	Tell us about the roster.
	There's probably like around 10 on the roster right now.
	I've kept this roster for a while.
	But my last relationship ended like probably three months ago.
	I don't really know if I counted that one.
	We only dated for like six months.
	That's okay.
	I don't know.
	Roster of 10.
	Yeah.
	How frequently.
	But they're not like full situationships.
	They're more just like hookups.
	Yeah, like we're friends.
	We just like hook up.
	Okay.
	Nothing more than that.
	Good guys.
	But it's a regular thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Like different guys for different days.
	Whatever the mood is.
	I know exactly who to hit up.
	Okay.
	So in the past month, have you seen all 10 of them?
	Probably five.
	I would say like seven.
	Yeah.
	Seven or eight of them.
	In the past.
	Okay, so in the past month, you've seen seven to eight of the men on your roster.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm assuming you have sex with all of them.
	Of course.
	But how do you is it like you both do like porn.
	So in addition to your three situationships, your roster of ten, you're also like shooting scenes, right?
	With are any of the men on your roster, they also work in the industry or they're like civilians or whatever?
	Civilians, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You guys are good at balancing a lot of show business.
	There you have it.
	So in the past month, you've seen seven or eight.
	Do they know about each other?
	I think they have an idea, but it's like...
	Not of each other, but that you're saying other people.
	That I'm seeing other people, yeah.
	And like, that's just kind of understood.
	Is there one that stands out where you're like, I really want to lock this guy down and just be with him and want him to just be with me?
	No.
	Okay.
	There's not like not even like a little in that direction.
	I mean, there's some that I like hanging out with more than just fucking, but nothing more than that.
	Like, I wouldn't want to date any of these people, I don't think.
	Sure.
	And so, okay, so there's seven, eight.
	Well, there's ten.
	Do you?
	And you're 26, correct?
	26.
	Do you think, like, maybe you're looking at it like, well, right now I'm young.
	I just want to have fun, whatever.
	But, like, in the future, do you think you want to get married, maybe have kids?
	Or are you thinking, no, I just kind of, this is how I just want my lifestyle to be like?
	I know I definitely want to have kids.
	I don't know if I want to get married.
	That's the thing.
	Okay, maybe not marriage, but what about like a singular lifelong partner?
	I don't think I'm built for like full-on monogamy.
	Okay.
	At least not at this point in my life.
	I don't know if that's going to change, but right now, definitely not.
	And what about for you?
	Since you got the three situationships now, but maybe in the future.
	I want to get married, and I definitely want a lifelong partner, but I think it's going to be a situation kind of like Adam and Lena.
	It's not Polly.
	Or like open.
	It's like an understanding that you're going to be sexually attracted to other people.
	I would never make my partner not have sex with any other women.
	I think it's like an insecurity thing.
	It's like we're humans.
	We're going to be sexually attracted to other people.
	That's not natural to them.
	Sexual cheating, like just having sex, I don't think that's cheating.
	Like I think emotional cheating, where you like would carry on an outside relationship beyond just having sex, then that would be cheating to me.
	Just like if Adam was ever talking to another girl that they had slept with, then Lena would not be okay with that.
	Wait, just a point of clarification.
	You said sexual cheating is not a problem.
	Well, like, well, how people consider cheating is like, people consider cheating in society like having sex.
	I don't consider that cheating.
	Well, let me just clarify one thing.
	So let's say you are in an exclusive, monogamous relationship with somebody and your partner has sex with someone else, even though the understanding between you two was that you would not do that.
	Do you yeah, then that's cheating.
	But if you would not be cheating, so you're saying okay, so so long as the prior to getting into a relationship with someone, the boundaries were laid out and it was communicated between the two partners that we are going to sleep with other people, then you don't consider that cheating.
	Yeah, as long as you're not.
	Well, I would agree with you there.
	If both parties are aware, then I don't think it's cheating.
	Yeah.
	So yeah.
	I will get married and have a lifelong partnership.
	Like I love having a partner.
	I think it makes life, the enjoyments of life better when you have a partner by your side.
	I just got confused because you said having sex with somebody, somebody else who's not your partner, you don't consider that cheating.
	So that's where I got confused there.
	Yeah.
	But you meant so long as there was a disclosure in the relationship that's open, basically.
	Yeah, like Adam and Lena, yeah.
	So roster of 10.
	Okay, so any famous people?
	You don't have to name names, but.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Musicians, athletes?
	What do we models?
	Rodeo stars.
	Any rodeo stars in there?
	Rodeos.
	Rodeo.
	Like a bullfighter?
	Not that I know of.
	I feel like you'd really like a Spaniard.
	You seem like you'd like a Spaniard.
	My type is like tall, white boy who looks like he's about to die.
	You're kind of describing me a little bit.
	A little bit, but okay.
	Pasty and pale.
	Okay.
	Wait, so, okay, so MGK, is he kind of...
	Basically, yeah, he's not one of them, but I would love him to be.
	Have you slid into his DMs?
	No, actually.
	Okay, has he?
	Maybe you should.
	Is he still dating?
	What's up?
	Megan Fox.
	I don't know.
	Megan Fox.
	Yeah.
	You think you could want up?
	You're young.
	I would rather fuck Megan Fox than MGK.
	Oh, question.
	Is anybody on your roster a woman?
	You got any chicks on the roster?
	There was like a month ago.
	She kind of fell off.
	She has a boyfriend, so it was like, oh.
	Okay.
	So, wait, let's categorize this.
	So, how many pro-athletes are on the roster of 10 men that you're athletes?
	I don't know if athletes are really on my there's no athletes on your roster.
	I don't think that's a good one.
	I thought there was one.
	I thought there was a football.
	Oh, that was you.
	Okay.
	I don't think there's any musicians.
	Yeah, music people, models.
	Who else?
	I feel like we're missing one.
	We're missing a genre of men.
	Old men, 50s.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Anyone who's 40 plus should be on the roster because to have one.
	Okay.
	College students?
	I feel like I'm forgetting like half of the people that are on my roster right now.
	You're insane.
	Wait, okay, there's 10 on your roster.
	Do you think you could just tell me, like, not actually say it, but if we were talking privately, would you be able to just list their first names really quick without having to think about it?
	Maybe like five of them.
	You'd have to double check.
	I'd have to, yeah.
	I'd have to go look at my phone.
	So there are men you're currently sleeping with and you don't know their names.
	I know their names, but just not.
	You'd have to double check.
	Okay, you'd have to just double check.
	I need a refresher.
	You'd have to look in your contacts.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	Yeah, it's a lot of people, so it's like hard to keep up.
	Okay, wow.
	Good times.
	I feel like you're like entering this information to like an Excel spreadsheet right now.
	Yeah.
	This is the Inquisition.
	I am.
	I am interrogating all of you.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm currently single.
	I've been single for about two years.
	I did just get out of a situationship recently, and my longest relationship was six years.
	Wait, okay, so single for two years, recently got out of a situationship.
	Yes.
	How long was the situationship for?
	It was only like six months.
	Six months?
	Okay.
	And recently got out of it.
	So what, like yesterday?
	No, about a month ago.
	A month ago?
	Yeah.
	During the situationship, were you seeing other guys, or was it kind of no, I wasn't.
	I'm pretty loyal when it comes to things like that.
	I just, I'm a Scorpio, so I'm super like possessive.
	If I have one person, I usually.
	You're a Scorpio?
	I am a Scorpio.
	What does that have to do with?
	I'm just, they're known to be possessive from what they say.
	I don't know.
	I'm pretty worried.
	From what they say.
	From what they say.
	Okay.
	So are you jealous or possessed?
	Yes.
	I'm both.
	Like, I just don't like to share.
	Have you ever slashed a dude's tires before?
	I have.
	No.
	You have?
	No.
	How about you?
	Anybody else?
	Anyone in your sleep?
	I've eaten someone's car.
	You've keyed a key to slippers.
	I've keyed a car.
	Key to car.
	I've keyed a car.
	Slash tires.
	That was in my crazy era.
	I could change my control.
	Anybody over here tire slashers?
	I've taken a car back from him when he was pretending like it was his.
	I've wrecked a car before, actually.
	I just forgot about that.
	Intentionally?
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	I was like, also in my crazy era.
	There's a lot of felons who have been in the middle of the day.
	I gave the guy two black guys once.
	Wait, you what?
	I did give a guy two black guys once.
	Oh.
	But that, you know, like, that was before I matured as a person.
	And I'm like very anti-violence now.
	And also, you could argue he deserved it.
	destruction of property versus like what wait he deserves why did he why did he deserve it hot topic I came home one night and I heard him cheating on me through the door.
	Okay.
	So I was pretty fired up.
	What about the girl?
	Did you beat her too?
	Well, okay, at first I was like, seeing red, I guess.
	I kind of like grabbed her by the neck, but then I like saw the look of fear in her eyes and I was like, you know what?
	This isn't really about you.
	So then I kind of just like mature.
	Yeah, I was like, I was like, and then I was like, no, and I let her go.
	And then I started breaking all the stuff I bought him.
	Like 19 at the time.
	Hormones are high.
	Yeah.
	And he knew my family.
	And the next day I went to my mom's house and my mom was like, Grace, is it true you gave blank two black eyes?
	And I was like, yeah, mom.
	I was fired up.
	Did you continue seeing him after the violent incident?
	We actually had plans to move together and he had me wait for him and we were supposed to like move somewhat soon.
	So no, I didn't continue seeing him.
	However, over the years we have actually he lives in Ohio over the years we've actually become like good friends.
	You know I, we were both young.
	I put that behind me okay, and I guess he put me giving him two black eyes behind him, okay.
	Anybody else here committed any felonies?
	While we're destruction of property, I can't speak on it.
	I have another one.
	I did a car chase.
	That was it, you car.
	You chased someone yeah, my boyfriend because he was cheating on me at the time.
	So like, the chick was in the car with you.
	No, I found out, we were in bed together and I found out, and then he was like I'm gonna go and I'm like no no no, you're not gonna go, and I was kind of a crazy bitch back then or whatever.
	So, like a month ago, this was no, this was like high school.
	This is high school.
	We've all grown from our teenage years, sure?
	So how fast were you guys going?
	We were oh, not fast, it was just quick quick, quick.
	So it was like going like 50, going like it's not even a mile road.
	This was in Alaska, so there's not a lot of guns.
	You're from Alaska, not born there, but I was raised there.
	You okay, you grew up there.
	When did you move part of Alaska southeast?
	So this part right here, that makes sense.
	I know yeah, that of course, the that part of Alaska.
	So this is, this is the whole state of Alaska itself, and then this is the southeast.
	I'm intimately in southeast, so it's gonna be right there.
	Yeah.
	So like, this is Juneau, this is where I'm from.
	This is Anchorage.
	It's gonna be mainland.
	So what?
	What is the finger?
	It's the ship.
	That's the Aleutian chains.
	Oh, the Aleutian chains.
	Yeah, those are the native islands, but those are pretty much gone now.
	They're gone.
	Climate change, that's okay.
	There you have it, folks.
	So you chased him in Alaska.
	Was it snowy?
	No no no, this is summertime in Alaska.
	Yeah, it was like working season summertime.
	Okay, there wasn't any snow on the ground, all right, it wasn't.
	It wasn't exciting, it was like two minutes and then we went back together, got it.
	Wait, how did we get here?
	You, I think you were finishing up on your yes.
	How did we get to the?
	You asked me if I slashed any tires.
	No, I haven't slashed any tires.
	But um, my six-year relationship, he cheated on me with a 17 year old.
	He was 26 and we lived together.
	What are these guys doing?
	It was a lot.
	There was a lot going on.
	It was my hometown too, so everybody like knew about it.
	Where's your hometown from?
	I'm from the Jersey Shore love, that's nice.
	So I'm from Toms River, if anybody knows where that is.
	You're from Jersey.
	I'm from Jersey, born and raised, born and raised.
	Yeah, I definitely like give off Jersey vibes for sure.
	I don't really hear it'll come out when I get mad or drunk.
	When I get mad, drunk, hyped up, it'll come out.
	Madison, what about you?
	Oh, I've been in a relationship for about a year.
	Cutie, on the beach where Santa Barbara, literally like right here.
	Kay, are you from Santa Barbara?
	No, I'm from San Diego.
	Cutie, is he your age?
	He's 22.
	I love that you guys live together.
	Yes, I love that.
	She loves it.
	21, 17.
	I was 16, so you said illegal.
	Well, I think you were 18 when you met him, right?
	She just said a year.
	I was 17 when I met you.
	Wait, Frankie!
	Oh, Frankie.
	Oh, oh, wow.
	I was talking about that.
	Frankie.
	Okay, you gotta be.
	It's like really.
	I was your own.
	It's your own people.
	Is that Romeo and Juliet?
	Is that like, because there's...
	What?
	No, I'm in California.
	They don't have that in California?
	What?
	The Romeo and Juliet, well.
	What's the Romeo and Juliet?
	Okay, so.
	It's like a three to four year difference.
	My daughter is 16 years older than my mom.
	Yeah, I don't really think they care about it.
	It's more so when like one person is underage when you met.
	That's yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm single.
	I'm single.
	I've been single for a couple months.
	A couple months?
	And no situationships or anything.
	I do have an ex that hits me up every now and then, but that's boring.
	How long have you been single?
	You said a couple months.
	Like two or three.
	Two or three?
	Okay.
	Sorry, longest relationship?
	Is two years off and on.
	Two years off and on.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How many times did you guys break up?
	Like three times.
	Oh, three?
	Okay, for off.
	I mean, there's people that do that shit every week.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's super toxic.
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	Bender the offender.
	Hey, Bender, good to see you, man.
	Thank you.
	Slow-mo is back.
	Unfortunately, I cannot change the playback speed of the stream.
	She would have a sentence out before she turned 50 years old if I could change it.
	I think this is.
	Is that about me?
	I think your nickname is Slow-Mo.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm so glad you remembered me.
	We have a little thing going.
	Bender likes you.
	I know.
	All right.
	He wants you to go faster.
	In your speech, not in other ways.
	I can talk faster, but I know that you're still going to find something to say about how I talk.
	But I can talk really fast if you want.
	What's up, Bender?
	Hey.
	By the way, we miss.
	Last time when you were on the show, did you have your like the red and blue?
	I probably had my right eyebrow dyed.
	Yeah.
	And I probably have blue hair.
	I'm kind of like natural right now.
	Is it going to come back, you think?
	Yes, of course.
	I bring it back every week.
	No, just like every couple months when I feel like I need some flair.
	Actually, I'm kind of inspired right now.
	I might go die out when I get home.
	Oh, there you go.
	So, okay.
	Longest is two years.
	You been single for two, three months.
	Why did he dump you?
	Oh, no, I dumped him twice.
	Oh, okay.
	He was cheating on me the entire time.
	So, yeah.
	The second time, he wanted to get back together, and then I found I caught him like sexting in my shower.
	In the shower.
	Yeah, like not in the shower.
	Like, he was sexting in the shower, then he comes to my bed, and then his phone's blowing up, and then he opens it, and it's the Snapchat of the sexing with the.
	Sexting was cheating, or like he actually slept with the girl?
	No, he had like five other girls on the roster he was sleeping with during that time.
	They were like coming over to his house using all my stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	And he was saying he was using it.
	Were you guys living together?
	You should have been.
	No, I basically, we have our own places, but I spent so much time over at his place.
	Okay, I see.
	I see.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I have a boyfriend right now, and my longest relationship was three years.
	Three years?
	How long is your current relationship?
	Nine months.
	Nine months, okay.
	I am in a relationship, and my longest relationship was one year.
	How long is your current one?
	Six months.
	Six months.
	Okay.
	Rock and roll.
	Rock and roll.
	Let me get a couple chats in here.
	We have X5.
	I recognize the blonde from Planet of the Gapes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, was that a scene?
	Nah, I don't know what you're talking about.
	And I love you, X5 podcast.
	Yo, X5, thank you very much for your very nice super chat there.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys, get your soup chats in if you want.
	And let me just check.
	We have.
	Okay, cool.
	We're all caught up.
	Okay, so I had a couple questions here for you guys.
	Let's see.
	Who here, maybe just by show of hands, wants to get married and/or have like a long-term life partner?
	Oh.
	No marriage.
	I think that's everybody but you.
	My dad's been married five times, though, so she has a different view on marriage.
	Yeah, my dad's on his fifth wife right now.
	So it's a different cue of marriage.
	You know what I mean?
	That's great.
	Wait.
	He didn't, like, do you think maybe by the fourth he would have like, you know.
	Yeah.
	I think with my biological mom, he should have stopped.
	She was only the second.
	Which your mom was the mother?
	Her mom was the second wife.
	My mom got me the third wife.
	Wait, can we have you tilt your microphone a little bit more straight towards you?
	There.
	Yeah, that's perfect.
	Wait, your bio mom was his third wife?
	This is his third wife.
	Now he's on its fifth.
	What do you think is going wrong in his marriages?
	Is it him?
	Is it the wives?
	I think it's the wives.
	I really don't think it's his problem.
	FTG, thank you for the I don't think my dad is the problem.
	God dang.
	He has married the most insane people I've ever met in my life.
	And one of them is my biological mom.
	One of them is like the woman I call my mom.
	And she used to be crazy.
	She's not crazy anymore, but like he just has a bad toxic.
	Yeah, he loves toxic, I think.
	Okay.
	So your mom, bio mom, is crazy.
	Psycho.
	Psycho.
	Not even just psycho, like evil person.
	Really?
	Somehow his fourth wife is who she calls her mom.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Your stepmom, I guess.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, technically she's not going to be a moment.
	Well, there are no more.
	So, okay, I guess.
	Now she's just some lady.
	She's just a lady.
	Okay.
	And so.
	Okay, hold on.
	So there's five, five.
	He's on his fifth wife.
	Fifth marriage.
	Okay.
	Is this one okay or still pretty crazy?
	She's actually not crazy.
	She's more of just like kind of snooty and like not the nicest person.
	So I'm like, I feel like this one might stick for a while just because she's different from the rest.
	Is your dad rich?
	Like what's your dad do?
	My dad's a pilot and he just like commercial like airline.
	Yeah, he used to fly for United and now he like manages a helicopter company.
	So yeah like he has money but like I don't know.
	He just pissed me do you feel like he has a type?
	Crazy bitches.
	Yeah.
	His dad is crazy bitches.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Which of the wait the third one?
	Did you meet the first two?
	I met the one right before.
	I didn't never know the first one.
	Which one's your favorite of your four kind of moms?
	Probably my stepmom.
	Stepmom.
	Yeah.
	Well, she used to be fucking crazy, but now she's not anymore.
	So now we're best friends.
	Do you still talk to your bio mom?
	No.
	Cut her out of my life.
	What's she up to?
	I don't care if she lives or dies.
	I literally, like, evil person.
	So I have no idea where she is, what she's doing.
	Fuck.
	She's dead to me.
	Holy shit.
	Yeah.
	The last time I saw her was my 21st birthday, and I had just started porn that week.
	And I was like testing the waters, trying to see if, like, okay, maybe people just say bad things about her.
	Let me like test her out again because I hadn't seen her in years.
	That bitch was crazy.
	Like physically tried to fight me.
	I like had to get security to escort me out of the hotel.
	Like it was a whole thing.
	And I was like, I'm blocking you on everything.
	Don't ever reach out to me again.
	Holy shit.
	Yeah.
	Was she kind of physically abusive to your dad too?
	Maybe to my dad.
	I don't know.
	But she was kind of like to you.
	She wanted to fight you.
	Yeah.
	At least then.
	When I was a kid, she didn't.
	At least I don't remember.
	I blocked all of that out of my memory.
	At what age did your bio mom get divorced with your dad?
	I was less than one year old.
	And then what age did your dad remarry?
	When I was like two.
	Two.
	And then at what age did he remarry again?
	Not until I was like 18 or 19.
	So that was like my mom basically during that time.
	So at two, so from two to like 18, you did have.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't too turbulent or was it still kind of turbulent?
	Totally normal.
	From like two to like eight, my bio mom still had like custody of us.
	So like it was a little rocky.
	It was like some really sketchy shit.
	But then she lost custody, disappeared.
	And then I had like a healthy life for a little while until I got divorced.
	You got divorced?
	No, they got divorced.
	Oh, they got divorced.
	Okay, okay.
	Do you think that the framework with the parents, you know, your dad divorcing so many women, do you think that that kind of left an imprint on how you view relationships?
	Definitely, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm more of just like, okay, like I actually love my dad and like believe it or not, he loves me.
	Like I know it's like a stigma where like porn girls don't have dads or whatever, but like we have a good relationship.
	But I never see him as like the problem.
	Like I don't think he's really the problem.
	I think he's been the people he's picking.
	It's like, maybe you're just not meant for like one person.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Just going kind of around the table on this.
	Who hears parents are still together?
	That's crazy.
	I'll raise my hand there too.
	Your parents still together.
	Okay.
	Turbulent childhood or otherwise pretty tame?
	No, very normal.
	Like, my parents are religious, like, they're very, I grew up very normal.
	I'm from Pismo Beach, San Luis Obispo area.
	Oh, slow.
	Okay.
	Yeah, slow.
	Yeah, they're still there.
	Is that 805?
	Yeah, it's 805.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	My dad's like my biggest supporter.
	Like we have all the time.
	Wait, your dad's your biggest.
	Yeah, like always.
	Even when I was a stripper, like my family, I've always been like the oddball of my family.
	So when I became a stripper, it was like, that's just Rochelle.
	That's my real name.
	And I just always took a different route in life.
	Can you just straighten the microphone a little bit so it's kind of more perfect?
	Yeah.
	You said you have to go to the bathroom.
	I'm very open with my family.
	I have two older sisters.
	Two older sisters, are they also doing this kind of content or they have like?
	No, they're like almost 40.
	Oh, they're okay.
	So there's quite a gap there.
	My dad had me at 53.
	So I think that's also why like my dad had my sisters when he was like 30-ish era.
	Yeah.
	So then by 53, my dad was just like been around the block with raising girls.
	Like he had three daughters and I just also like was a good kid.
	Like I just always wanted to do, take different routes in life of having life experience.
	Did you ever get detention?
	I did it a lot.
	You were trying to get back here in high school.
	Yeah, but I also was in all AP classes and I also did competitive sports.
	So then I also was able to have a lenience with my parents where they would turn a blind eye of like fucking around.
	You were taking advanced courses in high school.
	Yeah.
	Were you bored in high school?
	Bored?
	Bored.
	Was it boring to you?
	Yeah, for sure.
	Okay.
	But I also was a really smart kid and really athletic.
	Did you get in trouble?
	Yeah.
	Like what are we talking here?
	Like smoking a little weed in the middle of the day.
	I was never a weed girl.
	I was a Molly ecstasy girl.
	A what?
	Met.
	No, no, no, a molly.
	Molly and ecstasy girl.
	Oh, ecstasy.
	Sorry.
	I actually, you know what?
	I went six years.
	I met him in Santa Barbara at the Earl Warren Showgrounds.
	Oh, the six-year guy.
	The six-year guy.
	Earl Warren Showground.
	Was it like a concert or something?
	It was a concert.
	Okay.
	Are you not from here?
	No, I'm from Santa Barbara.
	Okay.
	I just, sometimes they do quite a variety of different things there.
	It's like fairs.
	I love fairs.
	Yeah.
	I did a lot of Molly at fairs when I was a teenager.
	There you go.
	Congratulations.
	I was working at the fair when I was a teenager.
	Thank you for letting us.
	Anyone else a fair worker?
	Any other carnies or anything?
	Any other carnies?
	Any other carnies?
	I think Brian's giving Carney vibes.
	I'm a carnivy.
	Do you want to do give Carney vibes?
	You look like you would be a carny.
	I look like I'd be.
	I look like I'm like kind of more like finance, bro.
	The guy at the sledgehammer trying to get people.
	No, I think I'm more like the guy who from like 18 to 22 stuck to his music taste for the rest of his life.
	What's your music taste?
	Cold play?
	Like, no, no, no, no.
	Oh, excuse me.
	That was a really good 3-11.
	I love Cold Play.
	90s grunge music.
	Same.
	Pearl Jam.
	Stone Temple Pilots, et cetera, et cetera.
	A little bit of tool.
	I don't think they're crunch, but I guess tool's okay.
	In any case, okay.
	So I think besides you, was there anyone else who parents?
	Oh, you're still together again.
	Okay, your parents are still together.
	Okay.
	Who here wants to have kids?
	Is that every not you two?
	No.
	No children?
	Probably not.
	Why?
	I would probably have to get a C-section for me to have a child, and that's not something I really particularly want to do.
	Why is that?
	I have such small birthing hips.
	So I wouldn't be able to.
	So I don't want to do a C-section and end up having to go under the table for all of that.
	Small birthing hips.
	How old told you that you had small birthing hands?
	That might change as you get a bit older as well.
	Is that a medical diagnosis?
	I've never heard of that.
	My mom had to get a C-section for.
	Because of the small.
	She's basically the same size as me.
	She's just teeth.
	Yeah.
	A lot of smaller women, though, like, don't have to get C-sections for that.
	Yeah.
	My mom did, so she's, I guess.
	My mom's, she's super tiny, too, but she didn't have that issue with having to get a C-section.
	Yeah, my best friend is 4'11 and just had twins.
	So she can do it.
	She pushed them out.
	Also, good news, you don't have to decide that right now.
	Yeah, I know.
	If anything, I could just freeze an egg and get a surrogate if anything like that.
	Yeah, that's an option.
	That's an option.
	I got a question for you guys.
	So, okay.
	What's the most amount of money a guy has ever spent on you early on?
	So, you know, guys.
	In like one day or just in total over time?
	It could be one day.
	It could be for like a specific, maybe got you a gift, maybe took you on the, and I'm talking early on, so it could be even before you guys have even hooked up.
	So.
	Can this be like art cold cash or can this be just like gifts?
	I mean, if they just, here's the thousand bucks, that counts too.
	Okay.
	So let's go around the table.
	Let's start with you and then we'll go around.
	Go ahead.
	Well, when I was a stripper, I had some guy give me like 17 grand.
	Wait, 17?
	Yeah, roughly within like 45 minutes.
	Oh, okay.
	That's like stripping.
	But that's, yeah, I don't know if that is what you're talking about.
	He gave you 17 for what?
	He was just like, there you go.
	Honestly, I think he had just like won a lot of money or something.
	He was burning a hole in his pocket.
	Okay.
	It was a good idea.
	Was it at the club?
	Yes.
	Okay, so he went to the club and he just gave you.
	He's just.
	I mean, it was like kind of like handfuls in total.
	It was like throughout the night.
	Yeah, I think he was like, two hours.
	Okay, sure.
	I think like a fair amount and pretty quickly.
	Well, what about maybe a more normal situation?
	Ah, more normal.
	Okay.
	I would say I had a guy who I ended up dating for quite a long time who lives in another country like fly to see me and like take me out over a couple like a week.
	So that was probably the most like someone's ever spent on me right away, including like a flight to see me and stuff like that.
	He flew through?
	He flew through, yeah.
	Okay.
	We had met briefly and then he went back to his country and then we talked for like two weeks and then he came back to see me.
	Okay.
	What about like I'm thinking more in terms of like they're giving you something.
	I mean when I'm like like a gift like when I first started dating guys like I don't know if they normally just like hand me cash but like taking you to dinner and stuff.
	Yeah like maybe I don't know if the guy ever brought you a gift and it doesn't have to necessarily be first date maybe the second date.
	Wait what?
	Like I would say like something worth like a couple thousand dollars.
	So like just cash?
	No, like if you like took me out to like what time period are you talking about?
	What time?
	Like a month?
	Like over a month?
	What time period?
	I mean really confusing.
	You said the most amount of money a guy spent on you in a short period of time.
	So the Renaissance?
	It was a great time period.
	No, like within the let's say within the first five dates.
	Oh, I don't know like $1,000.
	But on what?
	Like on dinners and like, yeah, like dinners.
	Sure, cheap.
	Dinner can get expensive, you know.
	Have you ever been flown out by a guy?
	I have for like work stuff.
	Like when I'm doing a photo shoot or something, a guy that I'm seeing.
	No, like a guy who's romantically interested in you for, for example, slid into your DMs and he's like, hey, let me fly you to Miami or Vegas or wherever.
	I have not, but I was in a long-distance relationship in another country, so they did pay for some of my flights back and forth.
	What country was it?
	It was England.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Such a broad question.
	It was a broad question.
	Just like, how much money has someone spent on me?
	Broad in that sense.
	Because you've got experiences with men.
	Yeah, it's just like when you're saying what the most someone spent on you.
	It's just like a broad question.
	Right?
	I was like, it's a hard thing.
	A guy who's romantically interested in you, who within the first five dates.
	I've gotten a Cartier bracelet, bags.
	Cartier bracelet?
	How much is that?
	I don't know.
	They're like 5K.
	Bags.
	Louis.
	$2,500.
	And they're giving this to you on the first date, second date, third date.
	If you remember for those two examples.
	Dates.
	What?
	Dates?
	I don't know which date.
	I can't remember.
	It's such a broad question.
	I've lived a lot of lives.
	First time meeting, second time meeting, third time meeting.
	I don't know.
	Does it matter?
	I don't recall.
	Well, I'm just curious how early on.
	Why does it matter?
	What do you mean?
	Why does it matter which day if it was the first, second, or third?
	Well, I'm just curious how early on they are spending an insane amount of money.
	I think also men go into situations with me and Gianna.
	They know who we are, so they know that they know who we are.
	So they're willing to pay weird amounts.
	For what?
	Because we're Rob Rockinaps and Gianna Dior and just men have their DR. What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	We mean for what?
	No, but like, are you- Use common sense.
	We- Well, are you saying you guys escort too?
	No.
	No, we're saying that people flight into us differently as opposed to because we are corn girls.
	If we were like normal people.
	Yeah.
	So they wouldn't be offering this to like a normal girl.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Correct.
	I don't know what other people's experience is, but I would imagine they're not offering me Rocks to fly to fucking wherever.
	Oh, have you had that offer?
	Yeah, and I'm going in like a couple weeks.
	Wait, okay, we'll get into that.
	But okay, so a couple bracelets, you got some bags.
	Well, those are like outside of relationships.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then in relationships.
	Just like normal amounts of money, like that you wouldn't.
	Oh, they'll just give you money.
	No, not give me money, but I'm saying like a normal relationship.
	Yeah, you take them on dates, you do shit, you live together, just normal.
	You said you had a five-year relationship, so you know how much you spent on your girlfriend, right?
	I think I bought her dinner once.
	Oh, but I'm dead serious.
	That's really good.
	Trying to think, yeah, maybe a couple times I took her out to dinner.
	Maybe.
	Wow.
	Five years, by the way.
	That's crazy.
	I'm a gentleman, okay?
	You didn't live with her either.
	I am a gentleman.
	Was she ugly and fat?
	No.
	Why would no, she's actually like that.
	Nick's giving yes.
	No, she's.
	She's implying yes.
	No, I don't think.
	Can I see a picture of her?
	I could show you a picture.
	I'm not going to show you a picture now.
	Right now.
	I'm not showing you a picture now.
	You're interrogating us when we interrogate you.
	Yeah, but I'm not going to go pull up her fucking Instagram right now.
	She's a fatty.
	No, she was not.
	She's not fatty.
	It was so weird.
	Yeah, it was kind of weird.
	That's the weird question.
	I'll tell you this.
	I mean, she was thinner than you.
	She's a funny.
	Thinner than me.
	She was thinner than you.
	Are they calling me fat?
	Is that what I said?
	Saying she's hot.
	She's thinner than you was crazy.
	What's that?
	Saying that she was thinner than her is crazy.
	She was thinner than her.
	Why was she with you?
	What do you mean, why was she with you?
	Did she have low self-esteem?
	Why is that because?
	Because you didn't buy her dinner or anything and didn't live with her for five years.
	Is that the only thing?
	If I was with a man for five years and he didn't want to move in with me and didn't offer to buy me dinner every single time and like take me out and take me on trips, why was she with you?
	Is that the only value that you see in men that they can provide for you?
	No.
	Was it a very low maintenance relationship?
	Yo, FDG, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships.
	That was me.
	Clearly, it was you.
	Well, I mean, I suppose that's the only value that you see in men.
	I never said that.
	Did I say that?
	Well, it's just asking me.
	You seem a little defensive about it, but you seem defensive.
	I'm not defensive at all.
	Are you sure?
	I'm not.
	Have you ever got her flowers?
	You're getting red.
	No, never got her flowers.
	It just seems like a lot of people.
	You guys are fresh.
	Yeah, you guys were friends.
	I don't know.
	We were friends.
	There was too much fucking for us to just be friends.
	Yeah, we're fucking for her.
	But it's like, why is the expectation on men to be just always men are providers and protectors?
	That's the number one thing.
	And what are women?
	They cook and provide.
	You are nurtured.
	You don't come on.
	I think Wayne, I couldn't.
	For your 10, the 10 men on the streets.
	I'm not sure the guys on the roster, but if I'm not.
	Of course.
	You have 10 men on your roster.
	For funsies.
	Yeah, because if I'm not dating them, they don't get anything.
	The 10 men on your roster, they're providing and protecting for you on the street.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	They're not.
	That's why they're not my boyfriend.
	That's why they're not my boyfriends.
	They're on the roster.
	If any of the guys, hold on.
	So do you go out to dinner, go out to events, parties, clubs, bars with any of the men on your roster?
	Yeah.
	And if a guy made a sly comment to you, wouldn't you want your guy to confront you?
	No, I don't expect that.
	Okay, would you expect them to protect you in some sort of self-defense?
	Not unless we're dating or something more than on the roster.
	There's no way.
	There's no way.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Who's the defensive one now?
	Hold on.
	I'm not, I'm just.
	We're having a relationship.
	You're getting heavy right now.
	No, we're just having a relax, okay?
	Nick loves me, by the way.
	I don't think he loves you.
	Okay.
	You're telling me if you were out with one of your men, one of the 10 men on your roster.
	On the roster.
	And they didn't defend you in some sort of situation where you needed physical defense, you wouldn't end things with them.
	I wouldn't need to.
	She was just like, can I say something?
	You wouldn't have to.
	Have you ever been in a situation like that, though?
	I've never like been in a certain statement.
	Yeah, that's never happened in a way.
	I've never seen anything like that.
	But also, no, I wouldn't expect them.
	Unless we're like dating, I don't expect them to do anything for me.
	So in some situation, I'm blanking on a hypothetical I could paint here.
	But let's just say there was some situation where you wanted him to defend you, but he didn't.
	That just wouldn't happen.
	I wouldn't want them to defend me.
	So if he just walked away?
	If you just walked away, you'd be cool.
	Is that a real situation people get in that?
	I've never been in that situation.
	You've never been in a situation.
	You would fuck a guy up, Brian?
	Be dead ass.
	What do you mean?
	If a guy came at you right now, you think you could fuck him up?
	I think I'd shit you.
	No, we're saying if a guy came up with that.
	No, no, no, hold on.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yo, yo, hold on.
	You're being fucking goofy right now.
	Relax.
	Okay.
	No, you're being disrespectful.
	You're being very disrespectful.
	You need to check it.
	Check yourself.
	Oh, I'll leave then, because I'm just.
	No, you're being rude.
	I'm not being rude.
	You literally said, oh, you think if a guy stepped to you, you wouldn't be able to take him?
	It was a serious question.
	Yeah, but what do you mean it was a serious question?
	That's what you're asking her a little bit.
	How was it similar?
	It wasn't similar.
	No, it is different.
	Well, we're asking for a different perspective.
	You're asking for her perspective, but we're flipping the script and asking for your perspective.
	If a guy went up to your girl, would you do that?
	Well, that's the same question you're asking her.
	If a guy went up to her and disrespected her, would she expect her roster to defend her?
	She doesn't expect that.
	They don't have that emotional connection, so it's a no.
	The two scenarios you're describing are totally different.
	Okay, if you want that to be.
	That's your opinion.
	For sure.
	We'll respect it.
	The reverse would be if, like, there's not even a mirror image reverse.
	Yeah, I don't think there is.
	Like, the reverse would be a girl, me expecting my girlfriend to physically defend me if a girl was fucking with me in some way.
	But like, that's not your belief.
	Yeah, but we're asking, would you defend your girl if she was in the situation?
	Not your girl defending you, you defend your woman.
	I feel it.
	Like if a man came at you in most defense.
	Relationships, even friend relationships, like it's normal to have someone's back.
	Like if someone was messing with my friend who was like a girlfriend or just even someone I knew, a family member, I feel like it's just natural if you know someone to stick up to them to some extent.
	My man needs to be able to fight because I'm going to fight.
	And then we both got to fight.
	If I'm fighting and you're standing there, you're gone.
	But back to like, I wouldn't expect a guy on the roster to do that just because like we're friends and like whatever.
	Like I don't really have expectations for them.
	I don't really like need them to do anything for me.
	But if I'm dating someone, then I would see where like if someone was fucking with me, I would expect them to say something or do something.
	Okay, so that is one component of the conversation we were having.
	We were talking about protecting and providing.
	So you don't expect any of the 10 men on your roster to protect you.
	However, do you expect them to provide for you?
	No.
	When I say protectors and providers, I mean if I'm in a marriage or if I'm in a serious relationship, then they should be protectors and providers.
	So then on like a first date, you split the bill?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	I would, yeah.
	I would pay the entire bill.
	I would too.
	Do you, though?
	I have many times.
	So you, okay, of the men on your roster, you have absolutely no expectation that they pay for dates or anything.
	Not really, but we don't really go on dates.
	It's more of like hang out.
	And fuck.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's what a roster is.
	Like, they're not like, we're not, like, dating in any sort of way.
	We don't even go on dates.
	Okay.
	We hang out or like maybe we'll go to a party or something.
	So it's like if I'm not like cooking and cleaning for them basically, then I don't expect them to be providers protectors.
	I think it's like if I'm not giving you anything, you shouldn't give me anything.
	Sounds fair.
	Yeah.
	It was equal.
	Okay, so I'm trying to recall how we arrived at that conversation.
	I think you asked me.
	Spending money.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're like, how much money in the small amount of time?
	How much money we received in a small amount of time.
	I was like, what do I gotta spend?
	Like within five dates or whatnot.
	Go ahead.
	My six-year relationship was a drug dealer.
	So I can't even count the amount of money that he spent.
	Jewelry, bags.
	I would go in the drawer and just steal money every day.
	A lot.
	He would buy my family stuff.
	He's a great guy.
	You know, until he went off the deep end.
	But yeah, I can't put like a certain amount in, but he spent a lot of money every day.
	Early on, I feel the men that I've been with don't spend that much money on me.
	I feel like I'm more the one to spend on them.
	Yeah, I've probably gone on dinner, like dinner dates, that's about it.
	But I've spent more money on my men than they've ever spent on me.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I haven't really had like a boyfriend really spend like a lot on me, just mainly gifts on anniversaries and stuff.
	Yeah, I could say the same.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	We have, hold on, I'm going to check if we have any chats here.
	No, we're good on that.
	I don't have an answer for you.
	All right.
	So, okay.
	Have any of you ever had a sugar daddy?
	Start with you.
	I have not, but I would like one.
	She's taking applications.
	DM's open.
	Me?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Never had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I had a few, like, when I was in college before I was like making money.
	I'm like, they were chill.
	Haven't really had one since then.
	No.
	I had one for like one day and then I felt bad.
	So I was just like, no.
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	How much money did he give you?
	Like, literally, like $100.
	I was like, I felt so bad when I run our guy out, I guess.
	I just felt bad.
	So I sent it back and I was like, I'm sorry.
	If you sent me a bad, I was like, I'm sorry, I can't do this.
	Oh, you should have kept money.
	Oh, yes.
	How much did he spend on them?
	$1,500.
	Okay.
	And what, like, was it in-person dates that you had with him?
	No, no dates.
	He would just like send you money.
	No, no, no.
	No, nothing like that.
	You just hit me up.
	If you don't want it to hook up, you need to hook up.
	Oh, okay.
	You were hooking up.
	You were hooking up with him.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I've had a sugar friend because I didn't have to do anything.
	He lived in Texas, so he would just virtually send me money.
	A splendid addy.
	Yes.
	Yes, a splendid addy.
	Yeah.
	I have not.
	Did you say you had one?
	Long time ago.
	Long time ago.
	Okay.
	And what kind of arrangement was it?
	Like, would you guys meet up, hook up?
	He'd pay you money?
	Yeah.
	It was almost like hooking, basically, but I didn't know at the time.
	Escorting, basically.
	But I did see them multiple times, so like it was an ongoing thing.
	But yeah, like we would just meet up, they would pay me a little bit and then fuck and like maybe we would hang out a little bit and then that was it.
	But it was like ongoing arrangements, so it wasn't like a one-time hooking.
	I that's why I don't think it was hooking.
	Maybe it is, but maybe it is.
	Alleged.
	Allegedly.
	And di you said you had one, right?
	I did not say, but I said, I mean, I wouldn't mind having one.
	You don't get offers, though?
	Um, I kind of, I just feel like it's like a lot of work, and I don't know if I'm prepared to give out the amount of sugar that I think they might expect.
	Yeah, true, but it's a lot of work.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And, like, like, physically and emotionally, you know, I just don't feel like I have the capacity for that.
	But if a man just wanted to send me a bunch of money to like have me text him a couple times a week, I would absolutely accept that.
	There are people like that.
	I think that's just OnlyFans.
	It's kind of like mine.
	Yeah, right.
	OnlyFans team.
	Right, which is, I already do that.
	All right, we have, let me see here, one sec, guys.
	Can I ask you something?
	Yeah.
	If a lady wanted to, like, send you money for you to, like, talk to her, would you accept it?
	How would you feel about having a sugar mama situation?
	Depends how much money.
	Like, what?
	She just wants to fucking talk.
	Doesn't seem like a bad deal, does it?
	I'm pretty busy, so I don't know if I'd have to be a decent amount of money for it to be worth it for me.
	You know what you're doing.
	I guess, but I feel like most.
	There's definitely, certainly there's more sugar daddies than there are sugar mamas.
	Like, I feel most women don't really move that way.
	Most women don't want to spend money in that way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I feel like it's probably something you'd have to seek out if you're looking for a sugar.
	There are.
	There definitely are sugar mamas out there, but it's got to be, I don't know what the ratio must be, but it's for sure dwarfed by the insane amount of, well, insane, it's insanely more amount of sugar daddies that there are.
	So let's see.
	Question for the panel.
	So, hold on, I lost it.
	So, have you ever made a guy wait for sex who you saw long-term potential in while you had a fuck buddy or friends with benefits or casual?
	Not while I've had someone else, no.
	So there's never, like...
	I've definitely, like, took time before having sex with someone that I'm talking to, but not while I'm seeing someone else.
	So...
	Not while I have a friends with benefits or anything like that.
	Here's the scenario, right?
	So let's say you have a friends with benefits.
	You don't really see like a long-term thing, but you're continuing to hook up with your friends with benefits, fuck buddy, whatever.
	All the while, since you don't really see long-term potential with this person, you are out there dating, and you are dating a guy, and maybe you like him, but you're making him wait for sex all the while you're hooking up with your fuck buddy or friends with benefits.
	The answer to that is no.
	Nothing?
	No, that's not a problem.
	No.
	I feel like I used to wait to have sex with guys to try and have some sort of preservation that I probably shouldn't be because I thought it somehow affected my value.
	So I'd like want to wait to sleep with them.
	But that was when I was younger, and I wouldn't say I move like that anymore.
	Can you repeat the question?
	I didn't get it.
	It was like a two-parter.
	Okay.
	You have a fuck buddy that you're sleeping with.
	And then you're also dating.
	Have you ever been sleeping with somebody and then been dating somebody, but you're making that person wait for sex?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	So like first night?
	The guy I dated for six years, we fucked on the first night.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I typically never wait for sex just because I think it's like an important thing where it's like, if you suck at sex, great, I just wasted however many dates.
	I'm like, I'm not going to see you again.
	Yeah, I feel the same way.
	I'm like, we're all grown.
	You know, you don't have to wait.
	I mean, if you want to, that's totally fine.
	But I feel like you need to know what you're dealing with because if you wait and you can't put it down, you got to go.
	Exactly.
	So first night?
	It depends.
	It's just if it feels right.
	But like I said, I think we're all grown here.
	So first night, I don't think that's a big deal if you really feel like you want to do it.
	Yeah.
	But so the question is, though, like, have you ever made a guy wait while you were hooking up with another guy?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No.
	Nothing?
	Okay.
	That's a very, like.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I guess it happens.
	People do that.
	I guess this can't really be.
	That's like a very written out question.
	Like, who asked that?
	Yeah.
	I guess I've always just dated one person, but yeah, I agree with you.
	You're grown.
	Like, if you're seriously interested in someone, you don't need to make them wait for sex.
	Like, it doesn't make sense.
	Yeah.
	You should know right away if that's someone you want to pursue.
	Or if they're keeping you in the hookup only.
	Right.
	Then that's your choice if you want to hook up with them.
	And Caitlin, before the show, you provided some pre-show notes to us.
	And so you said your current relationship, your boyfriend is 37.
	So he's, what, 14 years your senior, correct?
	Okay.
	And we were kind of talking a little bit about age gap relationships.
	But since your boyfriend, he's 37, you're 23, what does everybody here think about age gap relationships?
	Cool with it?
	Not maybe an issue with it if it's too much of a gap.
	What do you guys think?
	So while we'll come back, we'll leave you to the end and we'll start with you.
	I think once people mature to a certain age, an age gap becomes less important.
	So if you're 27 and you're dating someone 37, just for example, there's not as much room for taking advantage of someone who's vulnerable and might not have as much life experience as if someone's like 17 and 37.
	So I think past a certain age, it becomes less relevant.
	But obviously if it's someone who's still a child and they haven't developed properly, then it can be inappropriate because it's an unfair power dynamic.
	Yeah, the age of consent is, you know.
	And of course, like, there's laws and stuff like that, which people should take seriously.
	As long as you're over 18, I don't think it matters.
	Yeah, I don't really see an issue unless you're a minor and you're dating older.
	Yeah, I feel the same way, honestly.
	As long as it's not weird.
	As long as it's not weird, but also if you're dating to actually settle down with the guy, make sure you're in the right maturity level as him in the same headspace as him.
	But I'm not opposed to that.
	I'm more of like, I feel like it's like life stages at that point.
	Like I feel like if people are over 25, it's like they're in a different life stage, but people under 25, that's still college, it's still like all that like young stuff.
	So I just feel like different life stages calls for different situations and different interests and whatnot.
	So I just feel like it's kind of important to notice that, oh, I'm in college.
	I just graduated high school.
	And you've been in college about to graduate college.
	So you're moving on to a different stage of your life.
	I'm just entering this one.
	So I just think it's important to acknowledge the different stages of everyone's life.
	Yeah, so my parents have a lot of people.
	I would say it doesn't matter as long as you're not a minor either because that's really gross.
	And my ex cheated on me with a minor, so I agree that it's gross.
	She wrote high schooler, by the way.
	I know.
	We've had a lot of talk about big problems.
	Yeah.
	Girls in the world.
	That is a shocker.
	That's absolutely a problem, not even debatable.
	But yeah, I have great parents.
	They're 10 years apart.
	Yeah, I wouldn't say that my man and I have a lot in common, but like we have similar interests.
	But like that's the whole point is that he's gonna hang out with his boys.
	Like that's who he has a lot in common.
	They don't offer him the same thing that I do.
	So yeah.
	How did you all meet?
	Like a dating app?
	I would credit Instagram because we have mutual followers, close friends.
	So I would have no idea who he was if I didn't get a follow from him and see his Instagram.
	Okay, we have a chat here from Doc Vanablis.
	Rahra, so your totally normal household let you date a 21-year-old when you were 16.
	Do you really expect us to believe that was a normal situation?
	Enabling statutory grape is still illegal.
	You owe yourself intellectual honesty.
	If you have a response to Doc Vanablis, he was a really good guy.
	He took really good care of me.
	I don't think it was creepy at all.
	I graduated high school at 17.
	I moved out at 17.
	What's one year difference, if I'm going to be honest?
	Okay, we have Bender the Offender.
	Ladies, whose needs and wants should be prioritized first when in a relationship?
	The man's or the women?
	Women's?
	Woman's?
	Well, if the man is broke, then I think equal.
	I don't think that anyone should be prioritized.
	I think if you want to have a healthy relationship, it's give and take.
	Both people should be sacrificing equally.
	I don't know.
	My grandma told me you always have to date a man that loves you a little more than you love him.
	That's the only way that it works out.
	And I truly believe that.
	I feel like only a man would ask that question.
	It's a lot of people.
	But I low-key think for you.
	No, in general.
	I think the girl has to like the guy more.
	That never works out for them.
	But you're not in charge of everybody.
	It doesn't really work out.
	It never works out.
	That's how they cheat.
	Disagree.
	They get so comfortable and the relationship becomes boring, stagnant.
	I would say.
	Liv?
	I would agree, just both of them.
	I'd agree both, but in reality, it's the women's.
	Like, that's the only way it's really going to.
	The woman's what?
	Needs.
	Wants and needs.
	Wants and needs should be prioritized.
	I'm not saying it should be prioritized.
	I'm just saying.
	I hope, like, generally in relationships that women have more wants and needs.
	Exactly.
	They have more wants and needs, so it's only going to be successful if we please them.
	Friends don't have those money.
	So it's, ladies, whose needs and wants should be prioritized first when in a relationship?
	The man's or the women's?
	I'm going to go ahead and say the man's just because I guess my life is fairly easy.
	I guess I'm very well taken care of.
	I'm not talking like financially.
	Like I get a lot of money.
	Like I work.
	I go to school.
	But yeah, he's working a lot of hours every single day.
	And I kind of just go to school and bartend on the weekends, have my money.
	I live rent-free at home, so I guess it's my job to really with your parents.
	Yeah, yeah, I do live at home.
	So I guess it's my job to like make him happy because I'm not really stressed out.
	I don't have anything to worry about.
	Okay, your job.
	Wait.
	So his needs should be met.
	You don't live with your boyfriend?
	No.
	Okay, okay, okay, got it, got it, got it.
	What are you guys talking about here?
	Nothing.
	Go ahead.
	Nothing.
	I don't know.
	There's been a little whispering back and forth between you two.
	Can I say something?
	Or am I going to be yelled at?
	I feel like when you're having a debate with someone, I've been on a lot of podcasts in my life.
	Even debates with friends, you start making jokes and you start fucking with the other person.
	And you took it and then you came at me so crazy that it like ruins the dynamic of like having like a funny thing.
	You got to speak into the mic.
	They can hear me, by the way.
	I've seen a bunch of your podcasts on my furry page when people are far away.
	You can hear it.
	okay that's just we're just go ahead I know.
	Okay, so what I'm just saying, when you're like going back and forth and like debating, you're like fucking with one another, you're like saying your shit back and forth, and then you take it one way and then you like make it all serious.
	It just like kills the vibe of like everyone having like a fun, good time and like joking around making debates.
	When you like spin it in like a way.
	You like spun it to make it like weird and it wasn't weird.
	It was like when you're I've been on so many podcasts even just debates with friends and then you start taking it personally.
	That's when it's just I just gave an example of podcasts and then I also gave the example of friends and then you start taking it personally and then make it weird and all serious.
	It was like nothing serious.
	Like why did you make it into something where you had to like kill the vibe?
	Like it was like having to kill the vibe.
	Okay.
	You did and it was fun and we were joking around and I was just like, it's not fun anymore.
	It was fun going into it.
	Are you gonna let me respond?
	Okay.
	So this is precisely what zero accountability looks like.
	First off, we don't have the level of rapport for the jokes that you made to be appropriate in my view.
	Perhaps you have a different sense of what you can say to somebody that you've never met before and you don't know.
	The two things you said were, I was talking about the relationship with my ex-girlfriend.
	And, you know, I was kind of, I revealed a couple details.
	we hadn't lived together, I, you know, I wasn't like, bought her dinner once or twice.
	A couple times.
	And you said, oh, she must be ugly.
	She must be fat.
	You said, was she?
	Oh.
	Well, that's kind of, okay, so I don't see.
	Can I say something?
	No, hold on.
	So that's kind of a semantic thing there.
	You essentially said she must be ugly.
	I said, was she ugly?
	That you fat?
	I said fatty.
	Was she a fatty?
	Okay.
	And I stand by that.
	That's kind of rude.
	It was a joke, by the way.
	Let's all.
	Was it?
	What was the joke?
	If you're dating a girl for five years and you only buy her dinner twice in five years.
	Wouldn't she, I mean, wouldn't the funny joke be that she's actually thin because she's emaciated because I'm not buying her food?
	I think that's funny also.
	That could be another joke.
	There you have it.
	I like that joke.
	Yeah.
	In any case, I don't see how, to me, it seems a little vulgar to call.
	Oh, your ex must be ugly and fat.
	I'm a very person.
	But explain the joke to me.
	I just explained it.
	It was funny.
	I'm a bad fellas here, okay.
	You think I'm funny?
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	Okay, look.
	And then the other thing you said was we were talking about a scenario with her where if there's some disrespect or something, you wouldn't expect your guy to protect you in some sort of scenario.
	And then you're like, no, I what I started off with was I've never been in a situation like that.
	Have you?
	You said no.
	Everyone else here said no.
	And I was like, when is this even like a real situation that we get put in?
	And then I said, have you been in a situation like that?
	What do you mean?
	What?
	Did I stutter?
	What do you mean?
	Like, did you guys have a situation?
	None of you have seen.
	None of you have been witness to a violent situation.
	I have.
	I have, but I've never been in a situation like that with my partner.
	Also, can I speak now?
	Is it related to yes, no, it's not.
	Yeah.
	Well, you said you guys don't have the rapport for her to be saying those things to, but just from my perspective, you were like being accusatory and making presumptions about them as well.
	Give me an example.
	You were saying you probably don't cook and clean, huh?
	Really?
	Really?
	And when I said, I don't have a sugar daddy, you looked at me like, come on, you don't.
	So from my perspective, and I would actually be curious to hear what everyone else thinks.
	It seems like the same thing.
	It's actually, it's kind of not.
	I feel like the first event with the mental jokes was a little bit different.
	I mean, I don't know if that was a real conversation happening.
	It's also another thing if you're being like rude and interruptive.
	And my petted contract.
	I'll hold it.
	I'm not saying what.
	Go ahead.
	Were you saying it's rude when people interrupt?
	Yeah.
	Are you talking to him?
	Are you talking to us?
	Because I've watched this podcast.
	Basically, perfect.
	I mean, I was just told I wasn't allowed to speak as well.
	It's because they were having a conversation, though.
	Are we now having?
	You did ask, so it was a yes or no question.
	And then he let you talk after.
	Okay.
	Well, my bad then.
	Okay.
	So.
	Are we good?
	What do you mean?
	We're cool.
	I don't know.
	You're the one who kind of.
	Do you have a rapport?
	Look.
	Can we just.
	In my view, in my view, you were being rude.
	And I told you that.
	That's your opinion, and I respect that.
	And I apologize if you think I was rude.
	It's not that I think you were rude.
	You were rude.
	That's your opinion.
	It's not an opinion.
	That's an opinion.
	What's the cooking and a crazy thing?
	I think if you were hot.
	I think questioning whether she doesn't cook or clean for her roster.
	Questioning whether you could look at you and your girl.
	It's just like it's all opinions.
	Let's all be chill.
	Let's all have nice debates without getting defensive.
	Okay, so let's, we can go into the whole like, oh, Brian, I, and then you said, I could probably take you, Brian.
	Because it's a joke.
	Get the joke.
	Get the bit.
	But what are you, what are, what's the underlying communication that you're trying to say there?
	What are you trying to say when you're implying that we can't cook and clean?
	You don't know us.
	It's all jokes.
	We're all just making jokes here for content.
	Let's all move on.
	Let's like make our content and have a good time.
	And without getting so serious and defeated.
	But okay, there's obviously scales.
	Can you stop interrupting?
	There's obviously scales to it, right?
	So me questioning whether she cooks or cleans for her roster of 10 men is a little different than you ad hominin attacking my ex-girlfriend for a call.
	I didn't attack her.
	I attacked you.
	By you not buying, you bought her two dinners in five years.
	No, We're not talking about that.
	We're talking about you saying that she must be ugly.
	She must be a fatty.
	Roll the clip back.
	I never said must.
	I said, was she?
	It doesn't matter.
	You're shifting the goalposts here.
	Did you say ugly and fatty?
	That's the set.
	Forget the lost.
	I stand by that.
	Don't you think that's rude to say about somebody?
	I think it's a funny joke.
	And you said the thing about her being.
	Would you say that to someone's face?
	What do you mean?
	Would you say it to a girl's face?
	I'm saying that to your face.
	Was your girlfriend an ugly or a fatty?
	Why you only bought her two meals in five years?
	I don't see the connection between the frequency with which I buy a woman meals and her physical attractiveness and her way.
	One thing about me, I make a lot of jokes.
	So why am I here if I can't crack my jokes?
	Because I'll fucking leave.
	Like, it's just like I'm trying to have a good time and you're making it so serious.
	I like to crack jokes.
	I want to make jokes.
	It was a joke.
	It wasn't meant to be that serious.
	What's but okay.
	I'm not going to explain why it was a joke.
	To me, it's a joke.
	But I see a lot of people.
	You can't just defend saying that.
	I don't even care enough.
	Can you stop interrupting?
	You stop interrupting.
	You've asked to have a conversation about it.
	I know we keep dragging on.
	Can you stop?
	Stop interrupting.
	You keep dragging on the same question.
	I'm not dragging on the same question.
	It was a joke to me.
	I'm asking you to stop interrupting, okay?
	Allow me to finish my point.
	I let you speak.
	Let me finish my point.
	And then you can come in, okay?
	So, I fail to see how just attacking someone, I fail to see the joke.
	Okay.
	Let me get back to what I said.
	I would like to open it up to the table.
	To me.
	It's an opinion.
	That's my opinion.
	Okay, but here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	I'll get to you in a sec.
	I'll get to you in a sec.
	Here's the thing.
	I want to talk about it.
	I said it's a joke to me.
	That's my opinion.
	We all have opinions here.
	It's America.
	I'm allowed to make an opinion and make a joke.
	Sure.
	Thanks.
	Sure.
	Can we move on?
	No.
	I'm going to just initiate an argument and then just be like, okay, now we're moving on.
	It's my show.
	I'll finish my point and then we can move on.
	But you're being really rude now.
	I am not being rude.
	Yes, you're trying to dictate the flow of the show on my show.
	We're going to continue talking about it.
	I'm going to make my point and then I.
	I did take the flow.
	You asked.
	Why?
	You need to stop fucking interrupting.
	Why do you keep interrupting?
	Chill out.
	Okay.
	Jesus Christ.
	Look, I don't like this whole thing of like people saying really mean things about other people and just being like, oh, it's a joke.
	If that's mean to you, then you got to get tougher skin.
	Because we're on the internet.
	We get ripped apart to shreds.
	You got to have to pay for it.
	Let me ask the girls here at the table.
	If someone to your face is not interrupting.
	Don't yell at me or I'm going to get you.
	You keep interrupting.
	It's very rude.
	You think it's rude that I'm yelling?
	You keep interrupting.
	Stop.
	Oh, my God.
	You've just, you not have the social grace to just stop interrupting?
	What a crazy assumption.
	Are you not interrupting me?
	I'd like to ask the girls here at the table, if someone to your face called you ugly, is that a joke?
	I would probably just laugh because I know I'm not.
	Is it a joke?
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to take anyone's opinion seriously.
	You're talking about trolling us all the time now.
	I mean, why would I take anyone's opinions of my appearance seriously?
	Like, why would I?
	And I think that if you do take it, if you do it.
	To me, it sounds like that you're expecting us to get hurt over people's opinions of us.
	And that's just not us.
	If someone's calling us ugly, I guess we're ugly to them.
	That's their opinion.
	It's valid.
	I don't think women get treated like children.
	If someone called you ugly.
	I do.
	Oh, you're afraid of me.
	Would you view it as a joke?
	I get told that every day on the internet.
	It doesn't mean that's a good idea.
	Roll back the chat.
	Roll back the chat.
	People have been gone.
	Either way, it's offensive, especially when you're talking about someone that you don't even know.
	I don't really see it.
	Martin donated 100%.
	If someone, like, street blunt, you are curt, confrontational, and you carry your life trauma heavier than your makeup.
	You're unattractive inside and out.
	Brian has a podcast to run.
	You don't recognize masculinity because your father is weak and a failure.
	Is that just a joke?
	That's kind of a joke because her dad is a very nice man and not weak or a failure.
	I think that's a joke.
	But would it perhaps be appropriate for someone to be upset at what he said about your father?
	Can I be honest?
	That went in one ear, out the other.
	I'm asleep great at night.
	So that shit.
	That wouldn't really bother me.
	That doesn't bother me because I know who I am.
	I know who my dad is.
	That shit doesn't bother me.
	I'm a very secure person.
	Thank you.
	And I like wearing makeup.
	I feel like since we're all subjecting ourselves to this and criticism, we should have like the wherewithal to not like take it offensively or to heart.
	And also, question.
	You're getting really defensive over this.
	So was she ugly or a fatty?
	Just wondering.
	I think you already specified.
	No.
	I've repeatedly said she wasn't.
	Go ahead.
	I try to move on from this.
	Let's get a picture.
	Five minutes ago.
	Can we get a picture?
	I try to move on from this topic.
	I said, let this topic go five minutes ago.
	It's not your podcast.
	Then I'm done talking.
	There's no point in being meta about it.
	No, I said meta.
	We've already discussed it.
	There's you think it's a joke.
	I don't.
	End of, that's the end of story.
	Agree to disagree.
	So we can move on.
	That's what I think is best.
	In any case, though, I fail to see how it's a joke.
	And I'll leave it at that.
	You think it's perfectly within the normal social graces to just call people fat and ugly.
	If that's your standard of conduct, then I suppose that's your standard of conduct, but it's not mine.
	And perhaps it seems like the other girls at the table here who want to defend her also think it's a normal standard of conduct to just call people who you don't know ugly and fatties.
	I think you're really just desiring to defend her because she's on your team.
	I actually don't think that that's your standard.
	I think that's bullshit.
	Anyways, we're going to move on.
	That's what zero accountability looks like.
	What do you mean, zero accountability?
	That's what you said.
	Like, you can't see in any type of way, like, even a sliver of her perspective?
	What do you mean?
	I'm sorry.
	Like, you are choosing to think that she's just doing that and saying that because it fits your narrative instead of actually listening to her and taking what she says as what she says because she's not agreeing with you.
	I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you or most women would think that it's just a joke to call a woman ugly or a fatty.
	I'm sorry if I'm a bit skeptical of the assertion that that's just like within the normal social media.
	Do you think we're operating right now in a normal social like way?
	This isn't we're not all at a bar where we are called ugly and fat on the internet every single day, so you kind of just have to get it.
	If you really took that as being dead serious, then I'm going to leave.
	If you don't understand that that was a fucking joke, if we can play the clipback, that that was a joke, I said that was one of the things.
	So I'm saying, it's like if you literally and you don't understand that when I said that, it was a fucking joke.
	And if you don't get that, then I'm out.
	Like if you, like, this is, like, I can't have this conversation anymore.
	It's so fucking stupid.
	I think we're just like a little desensitized because it's like, people call some crazy shit on the internet, like, every single day.
	Like, people have said some really mean things.
	And like, at first, yes, it bought me a lot of people.
	Yes, the internet is toxic.
	Right now, though, we're face to face.
	Shit that people will say anonymously on the internet would never fucking fly in person.
	And you know that.
	I mean, if we were like in a full-on argument and like you called me ugly or fat, yeah.
	But if you just like jokingly were like, yeah, you're ugly and fat, I wouldn't even like think twice about it.
	Just because it's like, I don't know.
	I don't really.
	I fail to see what the joke is, though.
	That's where I'm still stuck.
	I fail to see, like, usually there's in a joke, there's a punchline, there's some, like, I'm failing to see the joke.
	Well, like, there's different perspectives of, like, I can't, for example, if I just walked up to a random, if I walked up to a random woman in the street and I just said, you're ugly and a fatty, just joking, just fucking joking.
	I would think that's what I'm saying.
	Can I not say her joke?
	I think I understand it, and that's your problem.
	No one's explaining this joke to you in the way you can explain.
	But like clarify it, different people have different senses of humor.
	So that's not my sense of humor.
	What I made, that's why I wouldn't go up to a random woman and call her ugly or fat.
	That's not funny to me.
	That wasn't the joke.
	That wasn't the bit.
	So calling a woman who you never said that.
	In my agreement, I never said that.
	Never said that.
	If someone came up to me and said, you're fat and ugly and said I was just joking, I would think that was funny.
	Just because, like, what are you talking about?
	Even if they weren't joking, I wouldn't.
	I would think that was kind of funny.
	People wouldn't.
	But most people wouldn't.
	I would say most people wouldn't.
	Most people wouldn't.
	I agree.
	Okay.
	Did you want to explain it?
	Yeah, I'll explain it to you.
	So your guys' whole conversation literally was like, you took her out to eat like twice or whatever, like, whatever.
	And then she said that that was a joke.
	So when you connect it and you want to go deeper into it, you're placing like typically in our society, men who are proud, like men who have women, they're going out, spending lunch, like going out to dinner all the time.
	So if you're only going like once or twice, not a lot, then of course it's going to be like, so why isn't that whoa, you're interrupting, bro.
	Intentionally or not, a healthy, mature person would have apologized.
	Joke or not.
	I apologize that you thought I was being rude.
	So did I not?
	Yeah, but when you say that you're apologizing for his actions, your own.
	What?
	I'm sorry.
	It's like, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry that you feel that way.
	It's not really an apology.
	I don't, look, I don't need an apology.
	But the subsequent comment was like, oh, Brian, you think she'd be able to take a guy?
	I'd probably fuck you up.
	It's just like, okay, bro.
	Again, I don't think we have that level of rapport.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	Anyways, the TTS interrupted you.
	Oh, I'm all good.
	I'm all good.
	She was saying, if you have only taken the woman out like two times and you don't want to show her off, she was asking, like, maybe is she ugly or fat?
	Like, to you.
	Like, maybe she wasn't.
	Maybe you, she was asking, like, is she ugly or fat?
	Because you haven't taken her out, I guess.
	Because I think that's what you're saying.
	I've had this conversation with multiple women before, and they go up to the other guys and they're like, well, have you taken her out to dinner?
	Like, oh, once or twice.
	And they're like, well, is she ugly?
	Like, why aren't you taking her out more?
	Like, this is a normal conversation that men have, like, that I've been a part of.
	Yeah.
	So, like, a common steroid.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I think that's where you get to the joke.
	Yeah, that's where you get to the joke.
	So if you're not understanding that part, then of course you're going to get offended, you know?
	So the joke is that because she could be unattractive, that I don't want to be seen in public with her.
	Is that, I think, the joke is not like bingo kind of men say that, and like men have that kind of joke.
	Yeah.
	I've heard men talking about it too.
	I know.
	Yeah, same.
	I've been in those conversations where men are.
	It's like, oh, she must be fat or ugly.
	And I've been in the position of like, well, why?
	What?
	That doesn't make sense to me.
	And they're like, well, we like to show off our girls.
	Whatever.
	Like, the more, if they're prettier or whatever, they'll spend more money on them.
	They'll take them out more.
	They want to show them off.
	They want to make sure all the other men know who they're tapping and all that stuff.
	So if you're not going out in public, you're not showering with her all this stuff.
	There's going to be a little like, so what's going on?
	Like, is he not like, you know?
	Is she not that attractive?
	Is he not that attracted?
	Like, it's going to be something.
	There's going to be a little thing to think about.
	Okay.
	So that's one component of it.
	Truthfully, though, the big blow-up that occurred happened after the comment about the fighting.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That was just a matter of time.
	So honestly, I kind of glanced to some degree over the ugly and fatty comment.
	All right.
	We have some chats here.
	We have, let's see, I'm a 49.
	Puffy Vegas.
	I'm a 49, and I'm going to tell you, women in their 20s don't care about age.
	P.S.
	I never bought a woman anything.
	Okay, there you have it.
	See, this guy knows what he's doing.
	He's 49.
	Never bought a woman anything.
	Is he married or in a relationship?
	He's on a chat when he's in a house.
	He's 49 and he's watching a live stream.
	He said, Do you want a cookie?
	What's up?
	If you know who Puffy Vegas was, he is one of the preeminent Giga Chads in Las Vegas.
	Okay, we have hardbody.
	First two chicks aren't adding anything of value and dumb AS fuck, kick them.
	Them too.
	Whole chat wants at least blonde gone, personal for the first chick.
	And we'll try to move on.
	We'll see.
	Okay, Puffy Vegas, I'm 100% on Brian's side.
	Blondie was mean, and you're protecting her.
	And are all you are protecting her?
	Are all are full of BS because if you saw a hot guy and he called you ugly, all of you would cry PS Blondie's mid.
	Okay.
	We have Sloane Fideli.
	Have a roster of super hot young women in.
	But he just called you, but he just called her mid.
	Okay.
	Isn't that like it's just a joke, though, right?
	Right.
	I'm just saying.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, you didn't bat a hiring.
	You didn't.
	You didn't bat an eyelash at that.
	You didn't even bat an eyelash at that.
	She can't defend herself.
	I just feel like this was a perfect opportunity and an example of exactly what you were talking about.
	If you want to say something to Puffy Vegas, if you want to puffy Vegas, we don't care.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	It just doesn't.
	I'm just saying if he agrees with you, but is doing the same thing, it's kind of like hypocritical.
	I'm not co-signing on his statement.
	No, I'm not saying that you are.
	I'm just saying he is agreeing with you that he thinks it's rude and inappropriate for her to say she's fat and ugly and then called her mid.
	So that's like and then called her mid.
	So he's doing the same thing that he agreed with you that he doesn't think is appropriate.
	So it's just kind of hypocritical.
	Okay, so.
	Would you not agree?
	Would you not agree?
	Is it could it be hypocritical?
	It's a bit too cocoa.
	What's that?
	I feel like it's pretty cut and dry.
	Fallacy.
	Okay, in any case, so you wouldn't agree or you would agree?
	Mid is not nearly as insulting as ugly and fatty.
	What's your opinion, though?
	To you.
	What?
	What?
	Mid means you're like a fiber or something.
	It's still fine as an intensity.
	This girl argues to argue.
	That's what we're saying.
	This girl argues to be aware of it.
	You can find things as an intense insult, so just don't say them.
	Okay, yeah, but literally.
	Do you think mid?
	Hold on, hold on.
	You think mid is worse than ugly and fatty?
	I don't know.
	I'm not literally.
	So you're putting your words into my mouth is what's happening.
	I'm literally saying that some people, like other people, not me, could find mid to be insulting.
	Both are derogatives.
	So like, I don't know what you're calling for.
	It's like someone can be.
	It's like comparing ugly and hideous, you know?
	Like, both are a derogatory comment on someone being less attractive.
	Off the rails today.
	Okay.
	So you're not going to be able to do it.
	I don't think mid is as.
	I'm not saying it's a nice thing to say to somebody, but it's not as bad as ugly.
	It's a derogatory comment on someone's appearance.
	It could be a little insulting.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	It could be a little insulting, but if they're actually mid, hey, fuck it.
	Man, it's cool when you do it.
	It's a problem when I do it.
	I actually want to tip my horse.
	It's okay.
	Whatever.
	Okay, Sloan.
	I have a roster of super hot young women in, I assume, the Dominican Republic for 20 years.
	They are mature.
	I'm 61.
	I don't know.
	Your thumbnail doesn't.
	You don't.
	Okay, whether it's fit and wealthy.
	I know this guy.
	I would never deal with USA 25-year-olds.
	They can't even make my morning coffee without drama.
	Never get married-based.
	Never get married, gentlemen.
	Never get married.
	Take it from her father with the five.
	I'm not like her father.
	My father got married in support of my father.
	In support.
	Okay.
	In support.
	I mean, you even said marriage is a no.
	Cool.
	Why you didn't literally say that.
	Yeah, I don't think that.
	I just, in my opinion, I wouldn't probably get married.
	We have Puffy Vegas.
	I grew up with nothing but chats in Tyro.
	Why is Puffy Vegas everywhere?
	Because he's tipping the talk.
	We have never had a conversation like that.
	It is insane.
	Men don't talk like that.
	We talked about did you hit it or not?
	I've been dating since I was 12.
	You have no idea what you're talking about.
	Damn, he's 12 and dating people.
	I think you have to be aware of that.
	No, he's not 12.
	I think he has the trauma.
	I think you're the issue.
	You're the problem.
	I think you're the problem.
	You're speaking through trauma, Puffy.
	Puffy Vegas is one of the biggest giga chats in Las Vegas.
	What does that mean?
	Good for him.
	I don't really care.
	He is a fucking giga chat.
	Okay, let's see.
	We're all caught up on the chats here.
	I'll know where we left off in the conversation.
	We'll move on.
	Total derailment.
	But okay, we have Caitlin here.
	You know what?
	Let me reel you back in here.
	No, We're not going to talk about it.
	We're not going to, we're not.
	We're moving on from the thing.
	In your pre-show information here, I'm trying to reel you back into the condo.
	You said a traditional mindset that women.
	I was a little semi-confused exactly what you meant, but you said women shouldn't be working and shouldn't have equal rights.
	So I was just confused.
	Are you in favor?
	Are you in favor or are you against?
	No.
	I'm just trying to.
	That's not what I meant.
	Will you explain it?
	I think it kind of goes back to the right.
	Oh, was that you?
	Sorry, sorry.
	Was that you?
	No, we both were, when you put in saying we want to do this, it was both like us wanting to do it.
	Should we shake hands and then hug it?
	Are you shaking?
	I think you guys should hug it.
	They made a.
	I was never mad.
	All right.
	I think it goes back to just like our mindset of thinking men are providers and protectors.
	I think we have a very like traditional mindset where it's like modern society has ruined women shouldn't have rights.
	Like if you took away my right to work, have a job and you took away my voting rights, whatever, that's kind of like what I stand for.
	I don't know.
	Like my family is very traditional.
	And like just reminded of how I grew up.
	Yeah.
	Like my family's very conservative.
	Michael Old School.
	Yeah.
	So I think that's just like ingrained in my brain where like men are providers and protectors and women don't work.
	And like wait, so repeal the 19th?
	Yeah.
	Take away voting.
	Take away our rights.
	Like I don't care.
	Mika, what do you think of that?
	That's your name, right?
	Is it Mika?
	No, it's not.
	It's Micah.
	Oh, it's like the rock or you know, the character in the Bible.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, what?
	Sorry, I was taking away women's rights.
	I mean, I wouldn't, but, you know, that's her opinion, I guess.
	I respect it, but I doesn't apply.
	I see both sides.
	Yeah, yeah, you're like devil's advocate for sure.
	I think it's independent, too.
	Yeah.
	I just don't think women deserve rights.
	Women don't deserve it.
	It's so real.
	Like, if you took away my rights, it's fine.
	Like, I don't think it would really affect my life that much to wear, like, I don't know.
	It might.
	It's a hot take.
	I'm aware that that's a very hot take.
	So, okay, you want to repeal the 19th?
	Now you got him on your side.
	Yeah, I mean, now you got him back on your side.
	For myself, yes, I would agree that most women don't think that way, but I personally think that way.
	I don't think I deserve rights.
	Me personally, I don't know.
	Just you.
	Just me.
	Why?
	Why is that?
	Why don't you or other women deserve rights?
	Wow, you're such a misogynist.
	I will say I'm more in like a misogynistic mindset than a feminist mindset.
	Where like I think the woman's job is to cook and clean.
	That's why when you asked me that, I was like, Yeah.
	I was 100%.
	I hurt you.
	I was being so.
	I'm very sorry.
	Yeah.
	I apologize.
	So I think men are providers, protectors.
	Women stay at home, take care of kids, cook clean.
	That's like kind of how life was for a long time.
	Yeah.
	And so I stick by that.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I'm aware it's a hard time.
	So, who here, just like show of hands, who here, and I'm not co-signing on this because reasons.
	Who here wants thinks we should repeal the 19th Amendment?
	Like, show of hands?
	Nobody.
	Raise it.
	Yo, raise it higher.
	Don't be, come on.
	I don't completely disagree with her.
	Yeah, I wouldn't do it that extra.
	I don't know if you're repealing it, but she's got good sense.
	She's got a good idea.
	She's like, I'm not going.
	You cooked.
	Yeah, she's got to cook.
	I don't know.
	I'm aware that most women would probably not agree with that.
	And would it be on my balance?
	I mean, like, I feel like I already do have so many responsibilities.
	If you want to take away one, like, it wouldn't be so mad.
	But, like, what are other rights?
	Also, like, also, like, voting.
	It's so hard to want to vote with the government anyway.
	It's like, what's going on there?
	You know, I feel like we're missing one.
	Like, what's another right that women didn't used to have?
	Any right to work.
	Where did I go?
	Working, voting.
	What are other ones?
	Like, nothing that really affects me.
	Just get rid of them.
	Don't do what you do right now.
	What do you two here in the corner think about that?
	Let's get us to it.
	Yeah, I would not say, like, take away our rights, but I mean, I see, I'm not going to diss you for thinking that, but I do like being independent.
	I like being able to do my thing.
	She wants to take away your right to vote.
	Not hers.
	I mean, I mean, right now, both the options are pretty bad.
	I would never say, like, hey, take away her rights.
	Like, I would never like sign on something that said take away women's rights.
	I just think personally, I don't deserve rights.
	I would argue that, I mean, I've never done anything crazy, but if someone has to make a decision for me, I'd probably leave it up to my dad or fine.
	I wouldn't go extreme.
	That's not going to work out, though, if I don't already have a man that's willing to connect.
	You're a single woman, though.
	Yeah.
	If he tells me to do anything, I'm just like, all right.
	But like, I'm saying that as like someone who like I make my own money.
	So it's like, if I'm saying that, it's like, I really would go to war.
	Would I go to war?
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	I don't think women should be in the military.
	I don't think I go to war every day of my life.
	I also don't believe in war.
	So it's like, I don't think anyone should be going to war.
	Wait, you go to war?
	I go to war every single day of my life.
	How?
	What do you mean?
	Just taking like pussy pics, or what are we talking about?
	Oh, my.
	I was just kind of joking, you know, because life is hard and sometimes it can feel like an ongoing battle.
	I wasn't being serious.
	I'm not getting shipped out and fighting in Camel with the AK, but I'm just joking.
	So sometimes, you know, sometimes the game of life can feel like a war.
	Like yourself, you get me?
	You understand?
	I think I kind of get it.
	So you're saying like your war is having to like constantly be uploading nude photographs to OnlyFans.
	I get it.
	Like it's hard to click the buttons on the computer.
	That's me 24/7.
	That was a very backhanded thing to say.
	I get what you're saying.
	I thought we were joking here.
	I thought we were all.
	I think that's a joke.
	Yeah, like we click buttons.
	I think that's a joke.
	I'm good.
	We kissed.
	We made up.
	It's all good.
	But that was a joke.
	I promise.
	She still probably hates me, but we're homies again.
	I don't hate anyone either.
	It takes a lot to get me.
	You could pretty much say anything to me, and I promise you, I can take it.
	Yeah.
	I can take it.
	Wait, you sure about that?
	I can.
	Yeah.
	Challenge acceptance.
	I can't.
	Let me say it one more time.
	I'm just kidding.
	Maybe I can take it.
	I'm not kidding.
	Wait, what?
	Back to Diana.
	Just take away women's rights.
	Yeah, can we fuck skip?
	I would never be like, hey, take away all women's rights.
	Just like for me, I'm like, I don't.
	Like, I agree that other women don't think that way.
	So I would never be like, hey, take away all women's rights because I would say most women don't think that way.
	That would be like, I don't, for me.
	Take away hers.
	I'm totally fine.
	I mean, they're already taking away some right right now.
	She just did.
	You should tell us how you really feel, though.
	She just did.
	Well, no, I know you're saying like, take away your rights, but I feel like you really mean, like, deep down, you really want to just take away women's rights.
	No, because I think most women have like a, like, I don't know, they have a mindset where it's like, okay, we have the right to work and to vote, whatever.
	And, like, I feel like women protect that.
	Me, I don't really care.
	But I'm aware that most women do enjoy those rights.
	So I would never be like, hey, take away that rights.
	I'm just saying, I don't really.
	Just you want yours.
	You could just relinquish your American citizenship.
	And then I suppose that'd be one way to lose your point.
	Yeah.
	You can move to North Carolina.
	Wait, you can do that?
	Yeah, you can.
	Where do they put you?
	I forgot what it's called.
	Well, you'd have to find another place to live.
	What's the term called for emancipation?
	That's no, there's a term for.
	Oh, that's when you're a kid.
	How do you, guys, what's the term for like abandoning your citizenship in the chat?
	No, not sovereign.
	Renouncing citizenship, I think.
	Oh, towards renounce citizenship.
	Okay, we have some chats here.
	We have, oops, hold on.
	Conan 19.
	Has society improved since women entered the workforce and started voting?
	No.
	Wow, okay.
	She's just going full.
	No, society has improved.
	I don't really know like when, but I've been doing it.
	I was around you with the workforce and starting voting.
	I think it has to do with just society becoming more modern and technology this way.
	A little more.
	Benda the offender donated $99.
	Her brain cells go to war against the Xanax.
	Is she popping?
	That's not the word.
	To you.
	That's to you.
	Of course it is.
	Real.
	I didn't take any Xanax, gang.
	I don't know.
	Anything?
	Every time, you know what's so funny me?
	Every single time I go on something, people always think that I'm like drunk or I'm high or something.
	This is just how you are.
	Yeah.
	This is you.
	Like they think this cup is full of like straight booze or something.
	But I'm kind of just like this.
	However, I did consider taking an edible before I came on here, but I did not get around to the.
	Ah, okay.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	Should I next time, you think?
	Maybe.
	Yes.
	We'd like to see you on edibles.
	We have.
	Oh, wait, we did this one.
	Okay.
	Do you two want to weigh on in this one?
	The one that you just.
	Society improved.
	Has society improved.
	I think society has improved in ways of just like modern technology and that aspect.
	But I think women eating has gone backwards.
	I mean, I would say like all of the content websites, like we run that shit.
	Yeah.
	So in that way, but we don't really.
	I mean, we run it, but it wouldn't exist if there wasn't people buying it.
	I'm not doing all the content websites.
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying you run content.
	Like we are the like main source of honor.
	Yeah.
	I would say society, not what we're saying.
	Just society in general.
	The top five richest people in the world are men.
	So I guess women really need to be feminism coming up and sexual liberation after that.
	I'm not saying women don't bring anything to the table, but yeah, it's like I would say as a society with like no offense, but like how much money like you do make on OnlyFans, there's no way that's right for society.
	Yeah, no, I don't really agree.
	No, no one is making shit.
	I'm joking, by the way.
	I'm joking.
	We're back to the joke.
	But no, I'm looking for any woman.
	I like think of that for myself.
	I'm like, I shouldn't be making the amount of money that I am for like some pussy on the internet.
	On the internet.
	Oh.
	I'm actually the total opposite.
	I think we need to.
	I think we should switch things up for a little bit.
	Maybe, you know, with the draft, I think we actually switch it so like only women can be drafted and then we just populate the entire military with women because I think it's wouldn't the birthing rate go significantly down in the U.S. if you send all the women over?
	The birthing rate.
	Like the birthing rate already in the U.S. is already going down because no one's wanting to give birth.
	Like the birthing rate.
	I'm saying if you send all the women over to war, then your birthing rate for the U.S., the population, goes down.
	It's already going down.
	Actually, that shit might go up because I think the case is if you're in the military and you're a woman and you get pregnant, but women can't impregnate other women if you're only sending women.
	You can start committing war crimes against women getting pregnant.
	There's going to be some dick just maneuvering in the army.
	Let's say 90% women in the military.
	Okay.
	I think that's pretty feminist of me, right?
	Running.
	Is that pretty feminist now?
	I'm so feminist.
	I would never let that go.
	Is that feminism?
	Or more misogynist to say, I want to send more women.
	I think it's misogynist.
	I don't, I don't.
	I don't know.
	It's kind of both.
	It's kind of like feminist, but also like woman-hating.
	Yeah.
	Like you want women to die, but like it is feminism.
	You want them to die, but it's also like kind of, you know.
	Like you want them to have the same opportunities as men, basically.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, I'm a feminist.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	That's a joke.
	Okay, we have Jackson Taylor here.
	How the fuck was Brian supposed to laugh at someone he just met saying your girl you dated for five years was fatty, ugly, and you can fight like ghee.
	Not every guy, simp, you can talk to however you want.
	What?
	Not every guy, simp.
	You can't.
	It's easier to talk like a normal person.
	Jackson, your grammar here is a little.
	He's just drunk.
	And he can't talk at all.
	Then his opinion is not.
	Do you have a response, Miss Raw Raw, to no?
	I don't even know what he said.
	All right.
	Well, Jackson Taylor, she doesn't have a response.
	I'm a captain, you a lieutenant.
	If I took a photo of the flags of Albania, China, East Timor, Montenegro, Morocco, Vietnam, Switzerland, Tennessee, Tonga, Tunisia, Turkey, and the Isle of Man, there would still be fewer red flags in that photo than on the right side of this panel.
	Do you guys have a response to that?
	I think it's a funny joke.
	I think that's funny.
	That's funny.
	I wonder if he had to Google the flags to compose that.
	Yeah, which ones are those?
	I just imagine that they're all red.
	I just imagine him frivolously Googling the flags to your incel if you know the old.
	But overall, I get it.
	It's funny.
	He knew all of the flags were red.
	He just named them off.
	Like, he knew every flag had red in it.
	He looked that up for sure.
	Exactly.
	That's incel behavior.
	Can't that just be like someone who's like kind of interested in geography or some shit?
	It's kind of weird to know that off the top of your head if you like didn't have to search it.
	Plus, he really listed so many.
	Someone who's really into flags.
	There's like flag.
	Flag.
	There's a term for you.
	There's a term for everything.
	Flag, interest.
	There's a spit.
	Oh, vexiology.
	It's one who is a hobbyist or general admirer of flags is a vexillophile.
	So, Mr. He's a vexillophile.
	Mr. I'm a captain, you lieutenant, lieutenant, is a vexillophile.
	There you have it, folks.
	Let's not assume that he's an incel.
	He might be original.
	He could be bald.
	I just said it's intel behavior.
	I think it's vexillophile behavior.
	Presuming that he just knew that off the top of his head.
	Yeah.
	Do you not like incels?
	I love intels.
	We love incels.
	I've been an incel before.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Pay for my pussy packs.
	Jesus Christ.
	Okay.
	I want to like them so much that they're happier.
	You want to like them so much that they're not so stressed out, you know?
	Interesting.
	Like maybe find some common ground.
	Find some common ground.
	Good.
	Nick, can you pull up the Twitch?
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	Guys, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a Prime sub if you have one.
	All right, we have, yo, Hog of Fart.
	Oh, my God, that name.
	Thank you for the Prime.
	Thank you for the five community gifts.
	Thank you.
	Grikleck, thank you for the Prime.
	These are some like fucking MMO RPG names here.
	Draven, wait, Draven Knight.
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	Brian Goon, thank you for the tier one.
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	Pivers, thank for the prime.
	Jennifer, thank you for the tier one.
	Thank you for five months.
	Thank you for a lot of follows, guys.
	Really appreciate it.
	Okay, so do we have Puffy Vegas here?
	No, we don't have Puffy Vegas.
	Rock up on check.
	What?
	He's a fan of yours.
	What if Puffy Vegas is?
	He was very eating like the iron, actually.
	What was he saying?
	I don't even remember.
	I just remember he was confusing me.
	He was.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	That's what he was saying.
	And then one of you was talking about, let's see, wait, where was it?
	In the pre-show.
	No, it's just the.
	Is it you who's anti-feminist or the both of you?
	Both.
	Both?
	Okay.
	Yeah, we've already been there.
	Well, yeah.
	What's the backstop?
	Yeah.
	Why do we keep saying us?
	Well, no, because these are the pre-show notes.
	So who here is a feminist?
	Show of hands?
	Considers themselves a feminist.
	It's okay if you are.
	I don't think anyone wants to consider themselves a feminist.
	I mean, it's just, I'm just equality for all, just whatever.
	Equality for all of us.
	If feminism means like your definition of feminism means like equality for both genders, then I would say yes.
	I'm not sure.
	Well, live feminist, not feminist.
	No, I'm more in the middle.
	I'm sure.
	Like egalitarian?
	What do you mean in the middle?
	Like kind of feminist, but not really.
	Like equality, like what Micah was saying?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No.
	Not feminist.
	Not at all feminists.
	Why?
	No.
	I believe it's going towards a direction of like, I don't want to say hatred, but I guess like putting down men in a sense where we don't need them to do this.
	We don't need them to do that.
	And we just talked about all this right now.
	Like, I don't want to go to war.
	Yeah.
	Like, if you took away a bunch of my rights right now, it wouldn't really affect me personally.
	But I guess maybe if I was in a different situation, it'd be a little bit different.
	But I guess I can acknowledge my privilege that life is really easy for me.
	Yeah.
	And a privilege acknowledgement.
	I think life is easier as a girl.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	I would definitely be equal.
	Pretty privilege is a thing.
	It's like, I know my privilege.
	Well, it's not necessarily pretty privilege, just like being a girl in general.
	You had a lot of things just handed to you.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	As a feminist, what do you think about that?
	Agree, disagree?
	She said she wasn't a feminist.
	Yeah, she didn't.
	Oh, I saw you.
	No, I didn't.
	And I said, I'm equal, it's just like...
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	She said equality.
	Oh, equality.
	Okay, so you're not a feminist.
	No.
	It's okay.
	If you are, it's okay.
	No, I'm just saying I'm just equal.
	Like, I do agree that there are some points that feminists have that just seem like exact, like a lot.
	Like, it just seems it comes to a toxic point.
	But I do recognize that equality is important to me.
	Like, that's important to me.
	But I think that I do agree that some feminists.
	Yo, planned life.
	Think for the 20 gift emotions.
	Sorry, go.
	Continue.
	No, that's it.
	I'm just, I'm equal.
	Like, I'm, I'm neither.
	Okay, so you believe in equality, gender equality, but you don't necessarily identify as a feminist.
	No.
	Okay.
	Question, who should pay on the first date?
	What?
	Who should pay on the first date?
	Whoever asks.
	I literally, if it's split, it's split.
	I prefer to split it on the first date because at that point it makes me feel like they're expecting something from me.
	Okay.
	I feel like if they pay for my date, they're expecting me to do something for them.
	So I'm like, split, split.
	If the man asks, I won't be like, okay, you can pay.
	But usually I'm like, do you want me to pay or can we split this?
	Okay.
	That's equality.
	That is equality.
	Liv, did you have something on this?
	I was just saying, like, if the man asks you on this date and he wants to go out to a very nice restaurant and like have you dress up all nice and everything, I feel like he should buy since he asked you.
	But if you ask somebody else on a date, then like maybe you could pay.
	Like I'm just saying whoever asks who should probably be ready to pay.
	Okay.
	I would agree with whoever asks who.
	That makes sense.
	I'd say I'm like kind of weird about money in a sense where it's like if you were to like hand me money, I wouldn't really want to accept it.
	Or I wouldn't want you to spend a lot of money on me on a first date, especially.
	That would kind of make me feel awkward too because I wouldn't want anyone leaving the date either thinking, oh, she just wanted expensive food, expensive cocktails.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	It's more in my character.
	I want to go around the table on this.
	What's something toxic, if anything?
	Is there anything toxic that you like?
	Yes.
	In respect to romantic relationships.
	All of it.
	Let's start with you.
	Go ahead.
	I would say probably not consciously, but I feel like some toxic behavior.
	Oh, I would say probably not like consciously, but I feel like some toxic behavior can get in your head and make you want something more.
	So like what's that?
	I don't want to, like, I probably wouldn't like purposely seek that out, but like if someone is hard for me to read or they're like making me experience a lot of different emotions, I feel like it would make me feel like I need to conquer that somehow.
	So yes, I guess?
	Wait, this wasn't a yes or no question.
	No, just like, what's one example of something toxic that you like?
	Maybe there's nothing, right?
	But I don't know, maybe you like a guy that.
	Can you give me some explaining?
	Can you give me some options to pick from?
	Some toxic options.
	Can we do like an ABC?
	How about let's have some of the other girls answer and maybe that's why I'll be like ding ding ding.
	Go ahead.
	I like a little aspect of like jealousy because it shows that he really like wants you.
	If the guy's jealous.
	He shows a little aspect of like he doesn't want other men.
	Or it's like maybe like protective or like jealousy.
	I would say like possessiveness for sure.
	Like for like mental toxicity.
	You like possessive guys?
	I like possessive guys.
	But then like physically toxic.
	Like as long as you're not like beating the shit out of me, but like you can like hit me.
	You can like.
	In the bedroom.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't know if people will see that as like toxic.
	I guess somebody's gonna be able to do it.
	Like you want to be punched in the face type of shit.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	That's fine with me.
	No, come on.
	Like straight up punch, maybe like a black eye or something.
	I've had a black eye before from Okay, good times.
	Yeah, but I don't know if like people see that as toxic.
	I guess some people could because it's like a little abusive, but like I want it.
	So I wouldn't.
	If you're asking for it, it's BDSM kind of.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you could argue that.
	Okay.
	You said you like possessive men.
	Yeah.
	But you have a you currently have a roster of like 10 guys.
	So like and they know, right?
	Or do they know?
	I don't know if they know.
	They know I'm not.
	They know I'm single.
	They know that I'm like fucking other people.
	Do they get possessive?
	Any of the 10 dudes on your roster?
	Nope.
	That's why they're on the roster.
	So in order for a guy to.
	She wants her man man.
	In order for you.
	Yeah.
	So if one of these dudes stepped up and was like, yo, fuck these other nine dudes.
	Fuck them.
	Not like actually fuck them, but like, I don't want you to see them anymore.
	I only want you to see me.
	Yeah.
	I think that'd be hot.
	Yeah, that's hot.
	That's hot.
	100%.
	But would you, though?
	Like, it might be hot to you, but you'd still keep your roster.
	I wouldn't keep the roster.
	If I started dating someone on the roster, yeah, I would nix the rest of the roster.
	So one of the rostered guys could just be like, yo, these other guys are rap.
	Yeah.
	I just want to see you.
	Yeah.
	It's done?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Like that?
	Like, not one more dick appointment?
	No.
	Not even one.
	Like, it's just rap.
	So any one of these 10 dudes on the roster, if they wanted to, they could be in a relationship with you.
	Yeah.
	They just haven't.
	I mean, I guess it depends on the guy.
	I wouldn't say all of them are like boyfriend material, but like a few of them, yeah.
	So some of them have the qualities that they could lock you down.
	Right, yeah.
	And if they told me, hey, we're dating now, quit the roster, 100%.
	What's stopping you from like getting with them?
	Good question.
	I'm kind of just vibing right now, like having fun.
	I just got out of a relationship like a couple months ago and it wasn't really my vibe.
	I don't know.
	So I'm just having fun right now.
	How quickly did you amass?
	So you got out of a, was it a monogamous relationship?
	The one that ended two months ago?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I was like shooting porn during it.
	So it's like, I don't know if you call that monogamy.
	Like I let him fuck whoever.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	I don't know if you call that monogamy.
	Probably.
	I mean, it's my job, but it's also like, I can't say you're not allowed to fuck other people if I'm fucking other people.
	Yeah, well, actually, that's kind of interesting.
	So he would fuck other women, but not within the confines of, like, he's not a porn star.
	I don't think he was.
	I don't think he did, actually, was the thing.
	But I gave him, I told him, I was like, it's not fair for me to fuck other people and you can't fucking watch it.
	That's kind.
	That's nice of you, I guess.
	That's equality.
	Would you have, but it sounded like from what she said that there weren't guys, or the guy you were in a relationship wasn't seeing other women.
	Yeah, I don't think he was.
	We don't think he was.
	He couldn't really pull game like that.
	Like, we got a whole lot of people.
	It was like 50.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it wasn't girls.
	Yeah.
	We just don't think he did.
	I just don't think he was.
	But he had the opportunity to do it.
	Would you have been upset if he did?
	Not at all.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, there you go.
	Don't care.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	How quickly did you amass the roster of 10?
	Within like a week of the breakup?
	Some of them were like guys I knew before.
	Oh no.
	Not during the relationship, but like during before.
	Yeah, I'd like known a few of them for a while.
	This is why I don't think if you're in a relationship with a girl, I don't think that she should have social media.
	Women don't deserve rights.
	Women don't deserve rights.
	It's not about rights.
	It's not about rights.
	It's just about the different levels of optionality because men and women, I think we can all agree, are not the same.
	So a woman on Instagram is much different than the guy on Instagram.
	Right.
	Like it's totally different.
	So I think.
	But I also don't think men should even have Instagram.
	I agree.
	You think men shouldn't have Instagram?
	Why are dudes hosting?
	Why do you have Instagram and you're posting pictures of yourself on Instagram?
	That's a little picture.
	Yeah, I mean, fish picture is like whatever.
	That's kind of manly.
	But if you're posting selfies, one girl who likes fish pictures.
	I don't mind a fish picture.
	A lot of girls don't like a fish picture.
	Yeah, I'm very into aquatics.
	I have a fish network.
	Can I give my input on social media?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
	I love pictures of fish.
	Like, you love pictures of men holding fish, or just you like to look at like a salmon.
	Anybody has a fish net.
	I follow like a lot of, um, I follow like a lot of like aquatics influencers, and I just eat that shit up.
	Like, yeah, goldfish breeders and stuff.
	Oh, my God.
	It's one of my hobbies.
	Yes, I do.
	What kind of you got?
	How many fish you got?
	You got koi pond?
	You're not a legit aquatics person if you don't have a coke.
	I have a salt.
	Well, I live.
	Well, I don't want to say where I live, but I don't have a cookie.
	Tell us your street address.
	Just kidding.
	I live in an apartment that doesn't really have like a yard space for a koi pond.
	I do have a tank, though.
	You got a tank.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	That's rookie status.
	You got to step it up.
	You need to get a koi pond.
	Are you into aquatics?
	Not at all.
	Well, then, how do you know?
	I just, I move in various circles in my aquatics circle a little bit.
	When I go back to visit my family, there's a koi pond I check on there.
	You check on the koi pond.
	Yeah.
	Your family has a koi pond or a close family friend.
	Close family friends.
	Have you ever stolen a fish?
	No.
	What?
	I never know.
	That's a normal question.
	It would be, you know, I would be worried about the welfare of the fish.
	Liv, you stole a fish?
	She was joking.
	You said that's a normal question.
	I said yes.
	That's a normal question.
	It's super normal.
	It comes up in conversation every day.
	What are you talking about?
	A fish probably wouldn't do well in a heist situation because their environments are sensitive, so I wouldn't want the fish to come into any harm.
	You know what, though?
	I think there's definitely some fish that are expensive.
	Oh, yeah, there is.
	Some fish?
	Yeah, exotic fish.
	Some of them that are hard to find, they can go for a lot.
	Are pet fish edible?
	I would hope not.
	Like, you know, some fish don't taste good.
	Like, the fishes that are typically kept as pets, can you taste good, you think?
	Can you even get anything out of them?
	They're like literally that small.
	Yeah.
	Some fish are poisonous.
	It would be hard to get them eat out of it.
	I don't know what it is.
	Sorry.
	My input on social media.
	You don't want to eat a puffer fish.
	I'll leave you with that.
	Wait, I don't know if we totally went.
	We didn't totally go around on the toxic thing.
	Yeah, I forgot the topic after that.
	Yeah, we'll come back to the toxic.
	We'll come back to that.
	But I did say that in a relationship, I do think that the girl should either severely private archive her shit or just not have social media.
	I agree.
	So I have.
	Oh, all right.
	Look at that.
	There you go.
	Really?
	I don't think women should have social media.
	It's not that I don't think women shouldn't have social media.
	I just think it's the reality of Instagram and a lot of people meeting.
	Instagram can be a dating app.
	So dudes are in your DMs.
	Well, I prefer to meet anyone off of Instagram.
	What do you mean?
	I want to hear your talk.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Just let her come in and then we'll have you coming.
	I was just asking what your reason is why you don't think women should have that or like post anything.
	Like, do you not trust your woman?
	Because I like my man right now, he's confident.
	Like, he doesn't mind anything I share.
	Other men just get great.
	I mean, I ignore them.
	It all comes down to what the girl's doing.
	If you're going to cheat on there, then you are.
	Right.
	If you're going to be loyal to them.
	it's more the amount of men who come into dms and who like your pictures comment whatever well i think it's this right so when you okay when you're in a relationship with somebody typically there's like and it's a monogamous relationship you both either overtly or covert like uh covertly there's sometimes there's not always an overt conversation about by the way we're not going to be seeing each other anymore but sorry i'm my my tongue is getting twisted we're not going to be flirting with other people.
	We're not going to be talking to other people.
	You are loyal to that person.
	You are monogamous to that person.
	So how do men typically initiate?
	Well, they have to approach.
	The way women initiate, which is sort of this more covert sense of initiation, women just put themselves out there.
	Yeah.
	Like you want attention, you'll post an Instagram photo.
	You'll go to the club.
	You're not like, if you go to the club as a woman, you're not going to like go like approach like 10 guys in a row the same way that a guy might go approach 10 women in a row.
	First time I talked to my man, he swiped up on my story.
	But so women run this passive game.
	They don't approach men.
	They put themselves in positions where they could be approached by men.
	They won't DM a guy.
	They'll post a picture to lure him into DMing them.
	So men are.
	Sure, that's fine.
	But men are salesmen.
	Women are marketers.
	And in a committed relationship, a man should stop pitching and a woman should stop advertising.
	That seems like a fair proposition to me.
	I agree.
	So the man shouldn't have social media either.
	Because that's all men do on Instagram.
	Just bidding and do the action.
	Yeah, but I think neither should have Instagram then if you're in like a really serious relationship.
	But honestly, I think it's kind of childish.
	If you're going to cheat, you're going to cheat off of Instagram.
	Like even if you're not on Instagram, I know some cheaters that have zero social media and don't even have a smartphone and they're getting around.
	But would it be cheating for me in a monogamous relationship to just approach without the intention of sleeping with her to just approach a girl and like get her number, but not?
	Absolutely in my eyes, yes.
	What are you doing?
	Yeah, where are you going?
	What's your end goal?
	Well, I don't think you should do that in a monogamous relationship, but women will keep their optionality open by going to the club.
	Going to me, I don't do it.
	If I'm in a relationship, I don't do all that.
	Yeah, same.
	Having social media.
	Chilling.
	Yeah, I like disappearing.
	But most men aren't getting bombarded with DMs from women who are like, I want to take you out.
	I want to hook up with him.
	We're three blocks away from a college over here.
	You can pull a regular college girl who has a thousand followers on Instagram and she's getting DM'd by like if, you're just yeah, like if.
	But she's keeping her optionality open because as as soon as the relationship ends or things are rocky, she could be like maneuvering to potentially keep it open in person.
	In real life, there's more of like a state of deliberate.
	I don't think instagram is the only way to do it.
	I think if you're grown and you don't want to do it, then you're just not gonna do it.
	Also like, a lot of women post pictures and use social media for like, a sense of community and other things Too.
	It's not just trying to attract men and have options.
	I would say personally, if I was in a serious relationship and a man asked me to deactivate my Instagram, I would do it just because I post bloody shit.
	What about this?
	Like, I get flat tired.
	What if instead of me saying, I'll delete my Instagram, I said, I'll give you my password and so you can look at it and see everything I'm doing.
	I would be fine with that.
	Yeah, I'd be okay with that too.
	I feel like that would be a good compromise.
	Normal in relationships.
	Yeah, like I feel like there's passions.
	Because that way that you can have a sense of security.
	But if I want to use social media aside from being my job, of course, but to look at stuff I like or look at like post pictures of fish or look at fashion or like friendships and a sense of community or something like that.
	Like I have a meme page.
	I have a whole meme page I run.
	I will never give that up for anyone.
	Yes, I do.
	Mema Lama Ding Dong.
	It's fabulous.
	Wait, so you're saying like if you're in a relationship, you would just.
	But I feel like because like maybe a woman who isn't really involved in social media, she might be more inclined to give up her Instagram.
	But you're a content creator, like you're out there in the space, so your Instagram is kind of tied to your public.
	I was going to make that argument.
	Yes, like I do make money from my Instagram.
	So again, I would have to go back to that situation where if you're paying for my lifestyle, whatever, then of course I would deactivate.
	Have you ever done that for an ex?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about the well, no?
	Okay.
	No.
	You say paying for your lifestyle.
	What would it take for a guy to cover your lifestyle?
	I mean, bare minimum paying for my rent.
	Okay.
	Paying for like trips and like trips, kept anything.
	NAD.
	NED?
	Do you know what NAD is?
	The IV treatment?
	NAD.
	Oh, like the something we love.
	Yeah, I spent a lot of money on that.
	We spend a lot of money.
	Yeah, just like anything I want or need.
	personal trainer wait like the concierge doctors that come to you and they have like Have you heard of NAD?
	Look into it after this.
	I'll check it out.
	Is that tightening?
	Huh?
	Like, injection.
	Never mind.
	I'm probably being in something completely good.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, like if a man was like supporting every single thing in my life and he asked me to deactivate my Instagram, I would do it.
	Okay.
	You had something on this?
	Yeah, so I have two Instagrams, actually.
	I have my private Instagram, which is just friends and family only.
	Like if I wouldn't say hi to you at the grocery store, you can't follow that page, you know?
	And then I have my public Instagram, which, and I mean, to be fair, I'm not very good at posting anyways.
	Anybody can follow that.
	I follow back my friends, but I don't post like their straps.
	Like I wouldn't post anything that I would prefer anyone like swiping up trying to hit on me.
	And in regards to Snapchat, I actually only have my female friends on Snapchat with exception of like a few people.
	And those are people that I would invite to my wedding if it came down to that.
	So it's like, if you need me, just text me.
	Yeah, I don't want dudes on my Snapchat.
	I don't even want the bubble popping up in my recents.
	Like those texts disappear.
	Just sketchy to me.
	I wouldn't.
	Okay.
	I don't prefer that.
	Let's go back to the toxic thing.
	I think you got to go.
	Did you go?
	What's something toxic that you like?
	I would have to agree with them.
	I do like my man to be possessive.
	Like, I need you to chase me.
	If I stop talking to you, you better come back.
	If you just stop talking to me, then we'll never speak again.
	Yeah.
	Did you, Nick, did you bring it all the way down to zero?
	No.
	Yeah, just, yeah.
	Personally, I'm only happy if I'm in a healthy relationship.
	Like, I don't really like the whole toxicity, but I feel like being possessive and like, what are you being jealous?
	I feel like those things can be healthy in a relationship.
	I don't think it's always taunts.
	It's nice to feel wanted.
	Yeah, on both parts.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like, if you're not jealous about a man hitting on your girl, then you're doing something.
	Or you just don't like her that much.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's just the truth.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, that's why guys do care about what you post on Instagram.
	For that reason.
	Yeah.
	I think for me, it's like possession too, but mine is sort of like the emotional deattachment that they have.
	Like it's basically like we're in a relationship, but it's completely like they don't treat me like it.
	And I think it goes back to my childhood.
	My parents were very turbulent, so I never seen a healthy relationship.
	So that's the toxic him not wanting you makes him if you want him more.
	That's what you mean?
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then him not treating me like that and whatnot.
	And then we get into the arguments, and then that's when like the passion is there.
	And I'm like, oh, that's what I want.
	Because that's my parents' relationship.
	Very turbulent.
	Never had a you like arguments with you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So like I've had a very turbulent view of marriage and relationships.
	Nick, do you hear that beeping?
	See, like I cannot do that.
	I hate arguing.
	Oh, no, I'm very emotionally turned off now.
	Like I've, it completely just killed me on the inside.
	And it's just, it just, it's just like, this is how I grew up.
	I've never seen a healthy relationship.
	And it's just, I'm an independent part of my life.
	A question.
	Yeah.
	Because I know you talked about how you felt after you've been cheated on him as well.
	I mean, you gave a dude both black eyes?
	One black guy?
	Both of those eyes were black.
	Yeah.
	I went back to my guy.
	I went back to my guy multiple times.
	You didn't feel a certain type of way.
	Yeah.
	However, given that, like, you know, your job, do you see value in sex?
	Like, if you've devalued it, okay.
	So I don't see any value in sex.
	So your man would be allowed to cheat, and that's okay.
	No, no.
	So here's how.
	So I operate my thing completely different than everyone else.
	My content is based on whether I have a trusting, full, 100% relationship with someone that I trust and care about and know that they have only the purest intentions of me and whatnot.
	And I will only make content with people like that.
	I don't go find you.
	You only make content with your partner at the time.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And then like, same question to you.
	What was a question?
	Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	To reiterate my question, like, do you see a value in sex?
	Because you did feel a certain type of way after being cheated on.
	Yeah, I feel like there's value in sex.
	I'm actually the same way.
	I've only made boy-girl content when I've been in very serious relationships.
	I guess the same thing for like hookup culture.
	You can be hooked up with anybody and it's just meaningless.
	But I, if you've just never been meaningless.
	Like, I've just like never been inclined to have sex without some sort of like emotional connection.
	So like, I think there is value in it.
	I'm, yeah, like, also, I feel like because I'm over sexualized and I do so much sex work, I like to separate in a way like that life from like a real me and like a personal life in a way.
	So yeah, like I was a dancer for many years, but also during that time I was celibate as well.
	So like I'm in my regular life I'm not very promiscuous.
	It has to be like something.
	Yeah, like I have to see some type of value in it in order for me to like get there with someone.
	Okay.
	I have a question for you.
	You said, so you like kind of arguing.
	Is it like A sexual turn on to like argue with your partner?
	Or is it or is it more like it's more of like we get into the argument and then we make up and I'm like, okay, so now we're better.
	Like he loves me more now because we got through this.
	Like feeling passionate.
	I understand that.
	Like you're seeing emotion.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And like a demonstration, I understand.
	Is that how you feel or how you think he feels?
	That's how I feel in that perspective.
	I dead ass know that the man wants to get out of that relationship is just too freaking scared to say anything about it.
	The man's perspective of that is like he doesn't, it's like pushing you away or he wants to push you away more and more.
	The more and more you do that, the more and more you pick arguments and stuff like that.
	Like it just pushes him away because he's annoying.
	Yeah.
	So since you kind of like that conflict with your partners, do you find that conflict or arguments organically manifest or will you intentionally like you'll almost plan it the whole day?
	All right, we're going to get into an argument tonight.
	It's like 50-50 because I'm so in tune with my emotions and stuff and like I have a lot of baggage or whatnot.
	If I see something that feels familiar, if my body reacts to something that feels familiar in a traumatic way or whatnot, my brain won't shut up about it.
	And so I have to communicate and be like, hey, I don't want to get an argument, but if we get into an argument, can we talk about this?
	This is how I'm feeling.
	This is what I'm seeing that you're doing.
	I'm not saying you're doing anything, but I would just like some clarification because I need to figure out why I'm feeling like this because I don't want to feel like this.
	And so that's basically what it is.
	But it always ends up in an argument.
	How frequently you're currently single, right?
	Wait, hold on.
	Single, yes.
	I thought, okay, maybe I'm.
	But you were in a relationship for, was it nine months?
	No, That would be hurt.
	Oh, sorry.
	Okay.
	Okay, my bad.
	I got these two mixed up.
	Okay.
	You've been single for about two or three months, correct?
	Okay.
	And how long was that relationship?
	Oh, it was quick.
	It was like four or five months.
	And you said your longest was two years.
	Is this a pattern that you repeat with pretty much all your time?
	Yeah, I'm pretty much very self-aware.
	I attract the same man.
	They're literally the same sentence, different font, is what I say.
	What kind of, what's your...
	Just like narcissistic, emotionally unattached men.
	You like that?
	Yeah, that's literally my parents' relationships.
	That's what I grew up with.
	I've seen the violence from it.
	Like, that's literally what I grew up with.
	So as an adult, it's hard for me to get into a healthy relationship because that feels foreign.
	That feels scary.
	So I go into these toxic ones because that's familiar.
	That's what I grew up with.
	That's what I've seen.
	I know how to navigate that.
	And that feels familiar to me.
	That feels safety.
	Is there a false family?
	Do you feel like sometimes if you're like also at the same time, like if you're able to conquer that, then you're like validating yourself that like you can improve from that also?
	I relate, I like relate to what you're saying.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So like that's why I spend a lot of time alone too because once I get out of those relationships, I start to see the pattern, start to see the observation, start to see how it makes me feel.
	And I'm like, okay, I know that's bad.
	I don't want to do that anymore.
	So I know I need to figure out what I'm chasing in people because there's something wrong.
	Because I know not a majority of men are like this.
	I know not a majority of people are like this.
	It's just I'm chasing something that needs to be fixed.
	I feel like you being aware of that is like good.
	Like that's the first step in overcoming that pattern and like doing like work to be able to like move like grow from that.
	So is there a comfort in the chaos kind of?
	Yeah, there is.
	Okay.
	What would?
	I'm sure you've encountered men that don't fall into that behavior pattern and they do kind of give you like they.
	You say you like him.
	When the guy's kind of like emotionally detached, maybe he doesn't pay attention, like at first it's like a complete love bomb situation and then as soon as you start dating, they completely detach, pull away.
	Yeah okay, and what would happen if a guy didn't do that and he was not detached or whatever, if he was like it was a healthy relationship.
	Yeah, when you like yeah, like I've had, like I've had I have one of my guy friends, like he's su, like he's so nice to me, super sweet and stuff, and like he's he's a genuine gem and everything.
	But I've pushed him away because like something emotionally with me, wasn't able to connect at all because like, even though he was so healthy, in the back of my brain I was like there's something wrong, like there's an intention behind there, though he's lying blah blah, blah.
	So like I cannot believe that it's truly healthy for myself.
	So it's more of me setting myself back than anything else.
	And when you say friend, was this initially, was he romantically interested, and then you friend zoned him or like it was just, we started off as friends from like TikTok and whatnot, and then, like I got into like a relationship.
	He was still my friend and then we got, I got out of it and then he confessed his love to me and I was like I just got out of this relationship.
	I don't feel that way about you, like let's just not talk about that right now.
	And he respects it and we're still friends to this day, but it's just, it's one of those things that, like the healthy relationships, for me they fizzle out.
	So do you not want a healthy relationship?
	I do want one, but I know at this point in time I'm not capable until I like figure my shit out.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Okay, because I feel like a lot of people that come out, I'm not in the business of sleeping with someone because I'm lonely or like starting a relationship with someone because I'm lonely.
	I would rather stay isolated by myself than like do anything else than that.
	Like it's just a lot of me time.
	Essentially, I was just gonna say like personally, I know a lot of people that have come from like broken households and like broken parents, like that, and in a way it like strays them away from the toxicity and it makes them seek healthy relationships instead of sorry Madison, what I'm not saying, I had like a tamponicity, it's not.
	It was getting like a little depressing just saying, oh really, bring my spirits up.
	But it actually like makes them seek healthy relationships more, rather than like I need to keep this toxicity in my life because it's normal to me.
	Yeah, exactly like.
	Once you go through it, enough.
	Then you're like, no, like this needs to change.
	Like Liv, what about you?
	I could agree with like some of the possessiveness, like just being a little bit jealous, like if somebody hits on me when we're out, like don't do nothing about it, because then you look like a fucking pussy, but wait, so wait.
	If so, if a guy you're with your boyfriend and you're out and another guy hits on you you want your boyfriend to confront.
	If he like slaps my ass or is like very like yes okay, I would expect him to do something.
	Or like get a little bit like hey, don't disrespect my woman like that, I don't want to be defensive.
	I feel like that's just like you want to be protective.
	Yeah, so I don't know.
	I would say like toxicness, though, I've tried to avoid that because all of my years of dating have been so bad, and I feel like I like being healthy now.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Anything toxic that you like?
	Yeah, I mean, the possessiveness is.
	I think you can go a toxic way about it when if you're like confronting me about something you're not okay with, but I don't think being possessive is a toxic trait.
	I think it's that.
	That's what I mean.
	That's what I was kind of saying earlier.
	I think those things are pretty healthy in a relationship.
	Like, you should be possessive over your partner.
	If you're not, then you're not in a serious, monogamous relationship.
	All right, we have some chats here.
	We have Dryzala to the single ladies.
	Do I stand a chance with one of you?
	I'm 5'2, early 30s, Norse pagan heathen, and very much into monotonous traditional life.
	Also, I got no kids.
	So, ladies, we're gonna go around the table.
	He's 5'2, early 30s.
	That sounds like the man for me.
	Oh, but I'm also a heathen.
	Not the cap.
	Okay.
	What's a heathen?
	Heathen.
	Heathen, like out of control.
	Here, I'll get you the definition here.
	What is it?
	Heathen, mischievous.
	A person who does not belong to a widely held religion as regarded by those who do.
	So I guess I feel like that's not what I like, like that's not how I think of it in my head, but I didn't realize it was directly related to religion.
	Sure, he's 5'2, early 30s.
	Is he capping about the 5'2?
	The 5'2 is crazy.
	That's gotta be a cap.
	I think it's.
	I mean, you could be 5'0.
	He could be 5'2.
	I could never.
	I don't mind if you're with a guy who's shorter than me.
	What was his name?
	And I'm 5'4, so I'll say you gotta be pretty short.
	I don't think he provided the name, but his name is.
	Oh, hold on.
	Beaten Cheeks.
	Oh, there he is.
	Look at it.
	Hey, Cheeks.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Guys orbiting women with boyfriends are simps waiting for their chance due to psycho-mental issues they have.
	Even when that woman is single with that simp around, you should report him to the police because of his stalking.
	Wait, even though he's not a bad person.
	I like his username, Beaten Cheeks.
	He's Beaten Cheeks.
	That's his name.
	He's the.
	Good to see you back, man.
	It's been a while.
	Haven't seen you in a minute.
	You missed the earlier show.
	And I think this actually was directed at the Micah, Mika, with it.
	Micah.
	Yeah, she's in the bathroom right now.
	Mr. Cheeks.
	But yeah.
	Wait, guys orbiting women with boyfriends or simps waiting for their chance.
	Yeah, honestly, like, that's the thing.
	Like, a lot of male friends are just kind of biding their time, waiting for their.
	They want to fuck.
	Like, 95% of them just want to fuck.
	So, all right, we have Grik Griklek.
	Hi, Brian.
	Long time viewer.
	I've been in the army for six years.
	In the military, a woman, okay, a woman that gets around with other members are called a bare axe bunnies.
	I've heard that term.
	Should women be put into combat roles or just be put in supporting roles.
	Grikleck, hey, thank you for the super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Should women be put into combat roles or just be put in supporting roles?
	Well, if you ask me, just 90%.
	90%.
	The military is 90% women.
	It's been men for way too much men for way too long.
	And we send them to the front lines.
	Women should have no roles.
	Just put them in the meat grinder of war.
	Yeah, I don't think women could run it.
	We would die immediately.
	Yeah.
	The U.S. wouldn't die.
	It wouldn't even be like a war.
	It'd be like a war.
	A fighter.
	You guys would be fine.
	I think the real fight would be before them going to war.
	Asking them to be able to get to the water.
	We would just meals on our little outfits.
	No eyelashes when you go to hair extensions.
	You'd be fine to tell you that.
	Women would be completely useless.
	Yeah, we're completely useless in war.
	Like I said, the fight would be before that.
	It would make war sexier.
	Yeah, like we would look cute doing it.
	Yeah, like that.
	That's what you have to offer then.
	Us preparing for war would be like doing our hair together.
	I'm just saying.
	It would make war sexier.
	I don't.
	I don't know.
	Come on, a bunch of women all fighting each other.
	But like, who's the opposing team?
	They're all men, right?
	Just immediately.
	All army actors.
	I'm not alien.
	I'm not all.
	We're for equality in the U.S., so it's like all the other countries, it's men.
	Yeah.
	And then we're just like an all-female military.
	Maybe our fighting tactics are just like a lot of people.
	You know, just like captured by like Al-Qaeda.
	It's all good.
	Like, I'm sure.
	It would be destroyed before the war even started.
	Wow, man.
	Why is that cheerful?
	All right.
	We have Dingus Snorkel Butt 7.
	Jesus.
	Dingus.
	For the two adult actresses, how do you feel that anyone can look you up on Google and know what you look like without clothes on?
	Google Incognito page is literally your worst enemy.
	I think that's really hot.
	Yeah.
	Well, not just.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I think it's hot.
	I don't know.
	What's hot?
	I think for me, it's empowering.
	And like, part of the reason I do porn is because I think it's hot that other people can see me naked.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's just a mental thing.
	It's empowering?
	Yeah.
	I know that sounds feminist of me, but it's not.
	Super female.
	More of like, I have the sexuality.
	I want to repeal the 19th Amendment.
	I think I have the sexual mindset of a man, any man.
	Like, I think I have a stronger.
	Yeah, I definitely have a man mindset of like sex.
	Wait, question.
	When you come, are you just like, all right, I'm done?
	Yeah.
	You're just like, I'm over it.
	You're done.
	So the guy has to come before you.
	Well, no, I prefer to come first and then they can come right after.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Because there's some girls, once they come, they're just like, all right.
	They're like dudes, you know?
	Yeah.
	Like, once I come, like, sometimes I want to come like more than once, but like, even once, I'm like, okay.
	You know, your turn.
	You know, like, when a guy comes, though, it's just like, okay, get away from me.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	You're familiar with that, right?
	What?
	You know, when the guy climaxes, he's just like, okay, go away, Micah.
	Does that do your name, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You like that, right?
	Well, we cuddle.
	It's not like that.
	It's not that bad.
	As soon as he comes, he goes in the shower, like has to cleanse himself.
	Yeah, no, no.
	Usually we just fall asleep or something like that.
	Oh, okay.
	No, it's not that like not that crazy.
	I'm not that traumatized.
	Well, maybe I am.
	We'll find out.
	You wouldn't find that appealing for like you just have sex with a guy, he immediately just gets up, goes and showers, and then like you need to be like six inches apart from him in the bed and he's just like on his phone.
	That's not romantic to you?
	No, it's not.
	That's one of those things that would sit in my mind and I would be like.
	But that sounds like him being like distant.
	I thought you were into the yeah, well, it's a it's a she said emotionally.
	Oh, emotional.
	Okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough.
	Let's see.
	We have oh, wait, hold on.
	Let me read.
	We have Puffy Vegas.
	Oh, hold on one second.
	Thank you, man.
	I was going to see you.
	How women need to be, not ones that are showing their buttholes on the net.
	Nothing empowering about females wanted to have gang bangs.
	More embarrassing for their future family.
	Do you have a response to beaten cheeks?
	I think he thinks that he has a point, but like that does that just doesn't affect me.
	Like I make money from doing it, and I think it's hot.
	So me personally, I'm going to keep doing it.
	Just because some random man on the internet named Beaton Cheeks thinks otherwise, I promise it doesn't affect me.
	Beaten Cheeks.
	Okay.
	Question for both of you.
	How many, do you guys keep counting of how many scenes you've done?
	Do you know how many?
	Like it's 50 plus?
	It's somewhere on the internet somewhere, but I've done hundreds.
	Hundreds of scenes?
	Hundreds of scenes.
	I think I started last year when I signed with Adam.
	So like a year and a half in.
	So I've probably done what, 30 to 40?
	Yeah.
	Does he manage both of you or just okay?
	Do you have a manager?
	I used to have an agent, like a porn agent, and then now I'm just kind of on my own.
	I guess you don't, like with OF, do you really need it anymore?
	Yeah, and like once you make the connections within the industry, you don't really need an agent.
	Okay.
	I think he was great, but I just didn't really need him.
	How many points would he get?
	5%, 10%?
	I think like 10, 10%.
	I don't know.
	What does Adam get?
	I don't know.
	If you don't want to share, that's fine.
	I think a lot of people.
	Five points, 10%.
	Not how much he makes, but how many, since he's your management, is it 10%, 20%?
	Plead the fifth.
	Huh?
	Plead the fifth?
	She pleads the fifth, okay?
	True.
	Wait, so.
	Should we repeal the Fifth Amendment?
	Oh, God.
	Good.
	Solid.
	So, hundreds of scenes.
	What's the most amount?
	Is there like a limit to how many scenes you can do in a week, or is it just like as many as you can book, pretty much?
	Typically, it's one a day.
	I have done two scenes in a day, but I would say in the beginning of my career, I was working.
	I think the most I worked a month was 27 days.
	That's like every single day.
	So I was doing like a scene a day, basically.
	Was it always with a different guy?
	I would say the same 10 to 15 guys.
	There's not that many guys in porn.
	Like you would think there would be a lot more, but there's not.
	So it's like same people over and over.
	You know what?
	I'm a feminist.
	I think men should be paid just as much as the women.
	I agree.
	It is a tragedy that male porn stars.
	We need equal pay on OnlyFans and in the adult entertainment industry for men.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	That's just not how it works because men are watching porn for the women, not for the men.
	Unless you're gay.
	I know, but just as a matter of equality, I think what should be done on OnlyFans is there should be a tax on the women and it should be redistributed among the men.
	I mean, if they're working for it, that's kind of fair, you know?
	We should do that with a lot of people.
	I feel like you're trolling right now.
	Equality, you know, but okay, all right.
	I do agree in porn, men should be paid at least the same as women, if not more.
	They do way more work.
	Like for us a normal scene, how much would you get paid?
	Like, is it a thousand, two thousand?
	Pleading the fifth, but I need a lot.
	Do you know how much the men make?
	It was like a couple hundred.
	I heard it's like a couple hundred bucks or something.
	Not a couple hundred.
	I would say, like, yeah, I'm more than a hundred.
	Okay, more.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right, we have DryZola here confirming.
	Oh, wait.
	Let me.
	Oh, whoa, I skipped a few.
	My bad.
	All right, Puffy Vegas, Brian.
	If Bonnie wants to respond, pull up my G. Fair's fair.
	What?
	What?
	Who's Bonnie?
	Is that English?
	Who's Bonnie?
	That's not English.
	There's no fucking Bonnie here.
	Okay.
	What's close to Bonnie?
	He's dyslexic.
	Oh, none of us.
	Did he try to type Blondie and just get a chance to get a chance to try to type Blondie?
	Yeah, Blondie.
	But we have two blondes here.
	So it's not making sense either.
	Okay.
	Mr. Puffy.
	Puffy Vegas.
	You gotta hit the threshold for that.
	Yo, Eric Beck, what I have learned from today's panel, women's jokes are like comedy.
	Sans, the funny.
	Most of these broads want to be a possession instead of a partner and proof the pre.
	Oh, geez.
	Don't shoot the messenger, guys.
	Proof the prefrontal cortex development is not as rapid as we once thought, probably 30 to 35.
	I don't know if that checks out with the scientific literature, Eric, but anyone have a response?
	That's not the right word for it, first of all.
	That's the wrong word.
	Which word?
	Prefrontal cortex development is not what you call it.
	Are you talking about like your frontal cortex?
	Is that what he's trying to say?
	I do think there is a prefrontal.
	Pre-frontal, but that's when you're like a kid.
	That's like before you have your frontal cortex developed.
	Let me just Google that really quick.
	Prefrontal cortex development is younger.
	Anyway, he's prefrontal.
	30 to 35, which is also not correct.
	One of the last places in the brain to mature, the prefrontal cortex, is thought of as the personality center.
	So when you're a kid, doesn't it develop in men later than next arrow?
	Yeah.
	It develops later in men than women can't.
	I believe so.
	Are you saying that men are arslurred?
	Look it up.
	It's a thing.
	No, I'm just saying that's what the studies they have done have showed.
	I believe that we have Dryzala here.
	Yes, I'm really 5'2.
	My name is Ryan, and I'm putting a strong emphasis on my height because the modern preferences, excuse me, the modern preference puts guys like me on the back burner, if not off the stove completely.
	He's not even on the stove, not even the slow burner.
	He's still taller than me.
	I have a bunch of shit talking about it.
	How tall are you?
	I'm barely 5'1.
	They have height-lengthening surgeries.
	I know, I love that.
	I'm gonna say it's a modern thing.
	What's that?
	You said it's like the modern preference, but I feel like it's like since the beginning of the time.
	The prime, yeah.
	Just like based on like when people were cave people and stuff.
	Yes, definitely.
	You would go for someone who has stronger genes to be able to perform better, like hunting shit.
	Definitely during the cave periods of cave living.
	Okay.
	The average height of men is a lot taller than it is than it was like years ago.
	I think the average height was a little bit different.
	I'm going to wingman here a little bit.
	Dry Zolla here.
	I still like him.
	You being 5'1, could I set you guys up?
	No.
	You said 5'2 ⁇ .
	I don't know him, and I'm 5'2.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I don't care.
	He could still be mean to you, kind of.
	I don't care.
	I'm really, I'm just not.
	I'm tired of it.
	I'm tired of men.
	I'm tired of searching right now.
	It's me time.
	Should we?
	Why are you tired of men?
	She explained that.
	Yeah, I did.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You did?
	Yeah, you did.
	Yes.
	Was it the whole during the part where we were going into the thing that you like that's toxic?
	Going into my parents' relationship and how I'm operating in my relationships to this point now, which is I'm focusing on myself because I understand that I'm attracting the wrong people.
	So I'm tired and I'm taking a break.
	I'm going to focus on me for a bit.
	And I'm not going to put pressure with an intention of one guy being like, yeah, I'll go on a date with you.
	Like, I'm not going to put that intention, not going to put that pressure.
	I'm just going to make friendships.
	And if it happens, it happens.
	But I got to focus on me.
	My priority is me right now.
	What if he has a giant penis?
	I'm just throwing it out there.
	Does that help?
	No.
	It's huge.
	No.
	Huge.
	My whole career.
	You have this microphone just giant.
	Giant.
	Quit grab an ally.
	What were you talking about?
	The brooding hips?
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Okay, all right.
	Praxis.
	Brian, the draft is a dumb thing to whine about.
	Trauma and hardship are good for men.
	Bad for If more men served in the military, OF would go bankrupt and women would behave better.
	Also, women who serve tend to get ran through.
	No thanks.
	Well, okay, let me challenge a couple of the premises here.
	OF would go bankrupt if more men were in the military.
	Let me ask the girls here who have OF.
	Are there any military men that are in your OF?
	Yeah, quite a few.
	Men, just because they're in the military doesn't mean that they no longer have access to OF.
	And actually, I feel like you're probably more inclined.
	And actually, I've heard like military men, a lot of them when they're overseas or whatever, they'll like hook up with each other.
	No, they'll procure.
	They do hook up with each other.
	They'll procure the services of prostitutes.
	I don't know if by virtue of you being in the military, that immediately translates to you not consuming porn and whatever.
	So the draft is a dumb thing to whine about, disagree on that.
	Trauma and hardship are good for men, bad for women.
	That doesn't make sense.
	I think, isn't it bad for everyone?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, I think, I think what he's trying to say, and I've heard this before, like trauma and hardship being good for men, bad for women.
	So I think what it does to men, like if you go through hardships, it'll make men more masculine.
	No.
	It can.
	Maybe not necessarily.
	I don't think it's true.
	But it makes both men and women more masculine when you go through like traumatic trauma, hardships.
	So women who have had a lot of trauma and hardships can't, not necessarily, but could, can be more masculine.
	So that could have an impact romantically where most men probably aren't super attracted to masculine women.
	Yeah.
	So I think that's kind of where he's getting at.
	Are you telling me I'm masculine?
	No, no, not at all.
	I'm saying in other ways.
	So you're saying I have trauma.
	But I don't think all trauma and hardship are good for men.
	Like if you go through something that breaks you, then.
	Oh.
	I'm going to have to re-trigger that because here, I'll read Puffy Veg.
	Puffy Vegas, I meant blondie have have, but have all panel rape me.
	Puffy Vegas, you got to send one TTS.
	Puffy, I tell you every show, you got to do it through Streamlabs because YouTube, it's the woke mega corp.
	We can't be directing the Rev to YouTube because woke mega corp.
	Beat in Cheeks, I'm going to re-trigger this really quick.
	Let's see if it reads.
	It doesn't read.
	Yo, men in chat, avoid the Puffy Vegas syndrome.
	Come on, you guys are homies.
	Don't be mean to Puffy Vegas.
	He is proof of the blank.
	Oh, okay.
	Addicted idiocy running through most of the incels in the West.
	Avoid his behavior as women are on their way to get stalking orders on him.
	Weirdo.
	Hey, come on.
	But beat in cheeks, be nice.
	Be nice to Puffy.
	Puffy getting stalking orders.
	That is defamation, beat in cheeks.
	Puffy, I encourage you to hire a lawyer and sue beat in cheeks for defamatory statements.
	Puffy's a stalker.
	Okay.
	Puffy, send through a TTS and we'll react to your Instagram.
	Okay, how about that?
	We have non-stop munchies.
	Every time Slow-Mo speaks, I can see the hamsters inside her head working overtime trying to form a coherent sentence.
	I couldn't sit in a room with her for free.
	She's very pleasant, okay?
	My IQ is a good idea.
	You're right.
	You could not sit in a room with me for a freezer.
	Whoa, shit.
	It's going to cost you.
	Non-stop munchies, shots fired.
	Shots fired.
	Are you saying you just wouldn't?
	I was pretty quick-witted with that one.
	Oh, non-stop munchies.
	Step it up, man.
	Bring it up.
	Okay, there you have it.
	Boom.
	Puffy Vegas, you know what to do.
	All right.
	We were talking about toxicity.
	I think we got around the table fully on that.
	Is there something toxic that I like?
	No.
	Any toxic behavior is abhorrent.
	Do not display any toxic behaviors.
	Stochastic decay donated $99.
	Brian Breen Breon.
	Okay.
	Sorry, I'm late.
	Long day.
	Hey, good to see you, man.
	Clicking here.
	Welcome.
	Typing there.
	Stealing goldfish.
	Getting Botox.
	Functioning on Xanux.
	Every day of my life is war.
	Anyway, one in the chat if you want the dipsomaniac known as Puffy Vegas on the show.
	Yo, one in the chat if you want Puffy Vegas on the show.
	We're going to make it.
	Yo, I DM'd him and he never responded.
	So he's heartbroken then.
	He left me on red.
	What is a dipsomaniac?
	Anybody?
	Google it.
	Anybody?
	Bueller?
	Okay, nobody knows.
	Wow.
	I don't know.
	What do you want to know?
	Tell us what you want to know.
	I want to know what a dipsomaniac is.
	Okay, I'm Googling it for you.
	Dipsomaniac.
	All right, we have.
	Okay, all right.
	We have, oh, alcoholism.
	Specifically in a form characterized by intermittent bouts of craving for alcohol.
	So it's like going on benders?
	Wait, can you read it again?
	It's just alcoholism.
	Specifically in a form characterized by, oh, okay.
	Intermittent bouts, excuse me, of craving for alcohol.
	So I guess.
	So, yeah.
	It's like going on benders and then being regular and going on drinking benders.
	Instead of just like drinking like 10 beers every day, you know, something like that.
	Is 10 beers, that's...
	Are you an alcoholic if you have 10 beers?
	They say that if...
	If you have more than two drinks a day, I believe.
	It might even be a week.
	It's very low.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you have it, folks.
	There you have it.
	Okay, we have, let's see, we're caught up on all our chats.
	We have what's it called?
	Wait.
	Shit, where'd my nose go?
	Oh, I want to go around the table on this.
	And this kind of stemmed from a little bit what you were saying.
	So have you ever tested a guy?
	So you did something intentional, maybe even planned in advance to see how he would react.
	You tested him in some way.
	Yo, AB Check, very good to see you in the chat, man.
	Thank you very much for the 20 gifted memberships.
	Really appreciate your support.
	Thank you, man.
	We're going to start with you on this side, and we're going to go around the table like this.
	So have you ever tested a guy?
	I don't believe so.
	Maybe I'll need to hear some examples, but Liv, have you ever tested a guy?
	In high school, I did.
	Me and my friends all like shared an account of a really pretty model that we actually got permission from to use her photos, by the way.
	And we tested my boyfriend first, and he failed, and then we did not go to prom together.
	How did you, like, what?
	So, what did you do?
	You DM'd him and you're like, hey, QD, or what?
	Yeah, my friend mainly did the DMing.
	She just kind of sent me the screenshots, but yeah, she was flirting with him and actually got him to send nudes to the account.
	Okay, so you're testing if you're not aware of that.
	Yes, of his small days.
	It could be testing for cheating.
	It could be testing just to see how he would react in a situation.
	I'm trying to.
	Yo, chat.
	Anyone have some good examples?
	I mean, I could give you one.
	This is somewhat related to the channel.
	I can understand what you're saying.
	Any type of behavior that you're trying to find a reaction.
	Yeah, I think in some other ways some women might test a guy by challenging him in some way, not related to cheating, but like either starting an argument or maybe insulting him even and seeing how he's like seeing how much you can get away with.
	It could be that.
	It could be that.
	Seeing what he says when he's mad.
	Yeah.
	Like testing.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	Let me read a couple of those.
	Shit test to see if he would stand up for you.
	Let's see.
	Disrespecting him and looking how he handles it from WW when she asks you if this makes me look fat.
	Tell the blonde dude that he's wrong.
	Who's the blonde dude?
	Is it like when you have like a specific reaction in mind that you want and if they don't do it, then they like fail?
	What's that?
	Like if you like set something up and there's like one specific reaction in mind that you're like looking for.
	Yeah.
	Or like a good, maybe it's not one specific, but it's like a good, you want to get a good reaction.
	And maybe he does.
	What's up?
	We have a two-hour drive back.
	Do you know how much longer?
	Not to be rude, I swear to God.
	We have an hour left.
	And we are actually kidnapping you.
	So you are, yeah, you're kidnapped.
	We are keeping you here.
	I got snacks.
	Hi, yes, it's me, gum Dio.
	It's okay.
	Yeah, we're going to try to wrap at nine.
	Can you guys?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're good.
	Can I get my fruit snacks?
	Can I have some?
	Yeah.
	What you got?
	Can I get my chips too?
	You guys can't hold out for an hour?
	You just asked for some of my company.
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	Got to put a stop to the sympodemic slash sympocalypse.
	We should have Andrew Wilson on your show to instill order on these women.
	I'd pay for you to have Kiko and Bangs versus Andrew Wilson on your show.
	Also, Brian, keep up your good work.
	Don't ever move to Oahu.
	Yo, being Cheeks, thank you, man.
	Yeah, I don't think it would make sense.
	I considered moving the podcast to Hawaii.
	I don't think it would make sense to do that.
	It'd be a nice place to live, but I don't think I'd be able to get the requisite number of guests in Hawaii.
	It's pretty isolated.
	But Cheeks, thank you very much for your patronage tonight, man.
	Really good to see you back in the chat.
	I have not heard of Andrew Wilson, but Kiko Bangs, Andrew Wilson.
	I'll try my best.
	I'll see what I can do.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Wait, okay, we were going around on the testing thing.
	Hey, Josh.
	Josh, thank you for the membership, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Going around the table on this.
	So you did the whole thing where you set up the Instagram account.
	It was a high school thing.
	I probably wouldn't do that now.
	I would just dump him if I thought he was cheating.
	What about you?
	Any tests?
	Yeah, I've done multiple tests, shading tests and stuff.
	A lot of the tests that I do is good intentions, though.
	Like surprising him with redoing his whole room or whatnot.
	Is that a test?
	It's like a good intention test or whatnot.
	To see if he's going to get pissed off that I did it.
	Like if he thinks I'm going to be his mom if I like do his laundry.
	Do you like it if he got pissed off?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm just trying to get with you a little bit on that one.
	Okay, so that would be a fail of a test if he got upset at you for rearranging his room.
	Yeah, because then I wouldn't want to piss him off.
	But what if he liked his room a certain way?
	And you, maybe it was nice of you to.
	Wait, when you say rearrange his room, like you're moving his furniture and shit.
	Yeah, so I'd be like, I'd be like, oh.
	I'd be pissed off.
	What the fuck?
	Leave my shit.
	Where is he?
	It's not more like moving furniture.
	It's more like buying lights, buying, like, you know, my ex wanted to be an astronaut when he was a kid.
	He wanted to learn how to play guitar.
	So I was like, oh, so what would happen if you did get that stuff?
	And he'd be like, I'd be really excited.
	So I bought him a nebula projector astronaut man playing a guitar because I was like, you wanted to be an astronaut when you were a kid.
	You wanted to play guitar as a kid.
	So I bought you ukulele and I bought you this.
	And so like I tell him beforehand, be like, what happens if I would have got you this?
	And then he'd be like, oh, you know, I don't want you to get me that.
	Like, it just makes me feel weird.
	And I'd be like, okay, that's a tame reaction.
	I'm going to get him it because maybe it'll make him feel better.
	And so just like, I've done a bunch of tests like that.
	So.
	Okay.
	Madison, what about you?
	I've tested like my ways of communication with the guy, but like you said, with good intentions, if he were to lie or do something wrong, I would test the way of communication that I was being supportive and nice about it or just giving the cold shoulder about it, like seeing the reaction.
	Give us an example, like a concrete example.
	Like you would say something or do something that was a test.
	How would you test a guy?
	I would test, it's just like hard.
	I can't say the like reason.
	I might have one.
	I might.
	I like you.
	A most recent, I don't know if this is like what you're asking for or whatnot, but like the most recent was I felt this guy was like not telling the truth.
	Like he was talking to me as if we want to be exclusive.
	He said to be exclusive, but like the feelings I got in his actions didn't really match what he was saying and whatnot.
	So what I did as a test, I said, hey, my friend and her man are having this situation.
	And I basically explained it everything I was feeling in the relationship and everything I saw him doing and how it made me feel.
	And I was like, in your opinion as a man, because I don't want to assume because I don't know him like that, do you think this and this is happening?
	And most of the time they're like, oh, hell yeah.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	He's cheating on her or something like that.
	And then I'm like, okay, so you failed that test because this is about you.
	This is about us.
	And you're basically agreeing.
	And so I'm like, okay, well, I'm done.
	So I've done like something like that.
	I think I thought of one.
	I'll test to see if you'll tell the truth about something.
	Like if I already know what happened.
	If I already know what happened and I already know the truth.
	One sec, one sec, one second.
	Look up the crucible on.
	Yeah, thank you, Cheeks.
	He's the best debater that is not a politician.
	I had him on my thing.
	I think I've heard of him.
	I'm a man who was amazing, but I had to censor myself due to him being on YouTube, so I choked.
	Until then, great content and have him on.
	He won't disappoint.
	I've heard of his channel.
	I don't know if I've really seen much of his comment, but the name sounds familiar.
	Thank you for the recommendation, Cheeks.
	Nice.
	Oh, can you just push that?
	Madison can.
	I should have heard him.
	Madison, Madison.
	Yeah, I hope not.
	I hope not.
	I felt like there goes our fucking thing on the bob.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I'll do like a mini test.
	If I feel like something's not right, I'll walk out of the bathroom and I'll be like, oh, so what's up with the eyelashes in the garbage can?
	And see how they react.
	Because if there's nothing going on, they'll be like, what are you talking about?
	There's no eyelashes.
	But sometimes men, you could just tell right off the bat from their face will be like, what?
	There's no eyelashes.
	And then you know, there was a potential for them to be eyelashes.
	Wait, so you hid?
	No, I didn't hide anything.
	But I'll just, because a lot of men don't throw their trash out.
	It's known fact.
	They, especially in their bathroom, I have found so many things, like just laying on the top of the garbage.
	I'm not even looking through it.
	So I'll just come in and be like, oh, what's up with the makeup wipe in your garbage can?
	It's only if I think something's going on.
	Like really seriously think something is going on.
	Just to see the reaction.
	You could tell a lot by a person's emotion.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I had a girl do something like that, actually.
	Did it work?
	No.
	Well, okay, so I once had a girl I've been dating for what, I think, six months.
	She hid a pair of panties near my bed in my bedroom.
	And then like a little bit later on in the night, she found them and proceeds to confront me and acts like, who's are these?
	I've done that exact same thing.
	It does work.
	It was clever, but super fucking toxic.
	And I was like, bitch, they're yours.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah.
	I didn't call her a bitch.
	And then I was like, yo, did you fucking plant those?
	And she's like, no, what the f you're fucking cheating.
	I'm like, no, what the f?
	Like, because I'm very aware of my bedroom.
	Like, I clean and shit.
	I clean my shit.
	It's clean in my bedroom.
	It's really good.
	Kind of a German book.
	I saw.
	No, but then I think I broke up with her like a week after because I was like, yeah, this is the end.
	I saw something like that.
	It was like, put a water bottle.
	I saw this online.
	It was like, put a water bottle in his car and then ask where it came from.
	And like, if he's doing something or lying, he'll like make up a story for it.
	But if he's not, he'll just like be like, I don't know.
	Yeah, I think a guy has to make a year for you to be monogamous.
	Okay.
	It now seems a guy isn't shit if he doesn't make one mil a year.
	Hope blonde Megan Fox doesn't find herself at 50 alone.
	No kids married to a husband sleeping with all the 20 year old versions of her.
	Who is blonde Megan Fox?
	Because we have two blonde women.
	We have two blonde women here.
	I think that's a compliment.
	Oh, yeah.
	GP, we're going to finish up on the test question, then I'll get to this one.
	Have you ever tested the guy?
	All the time.
	All the time.
	Many occasions.
	Okay.
	If we were dating, like, no, how would you test me?
	Actually, I don't know.
	Never mind.
	I don't want to.
	The panties thing is a good one.
	Like, that's a classic.
	You've done it before.
	I've done that exact same thing before where I'll put my panties somewhere and then be like, who the fuck are these?
	You know what would be one step up from that if you got one of your girlfriends, like her panties, and then you did it.
	And if he questioned you, like, come on, that's yours.
	You're like, smell this shit, motherfucker.
	Does that smell like me?
	I don't think he doesn't know the difference between my pussy and someone else's pussy.
	There's different scents.
	Okay.
	There are different scents.
	I've never seen a lot of pussy in our line of work.
	Yeah.
	I don't think there's anything.
	Come on, there's differences.
	There's differences.
	I don't know if a man would be able to tell the difference, though.
	Maybe you can, but I don't think other men can.
	We can tell.
	Men can tell.
	There's differences.
	Right, you have to try that.
	Yo, let's ask chat.
	Nick, can you pull up the chat?
	Chat.
	Chat.
	Do some.
	Are there differences?
	One in the chat.
	If there's differences, you can tell that like there's different scents when it comes to pussy.
	Chat?
	What are they?
	Are there different scents?
	Can you describe them?
	Can I describe them?
	Yeah.
	I'm a man of God.
	I'm not going to describe the scent of a woman, but I can tell you.
	Man of God.
	There's different scents.
	There's different scents, ladies and gentlemen.
	Okay.
	But yes, I test men.
	You test men.
	What about you?
	Rah, raw.
	Oh, just like, have you ever tested a guy?
	If so, how?
	Honestly, I don't think I have.
	I've only had three boyfriends, and the guy first, one was six years, and he was super, super loyal.
	And then the next guy was six months.
	The next guy was six months.
	Can you turn the mic up?
	That was too.
	Nothing stands out to me that I remember off the top of my head.
	What about you?
	I don't like to intentionally set up tests.
	The only thing I can really think of is like if I know someone is lying about something, I would probably like give them the opportunity to either tell the truth or see if they lie.
	Okay.
	She's done that one.
	I actually did the thing that you're talking about where you have a fake girl DM them.
	Hell yeah.
	My guy passed, though.
	And I was like, damn, that's probably not.
	I was not expecting that.
	There's no women watching this getting these terrible ideas of things that are not.
	Ladies do not call it.
	Oh yeah, you're not a fan of Color Daddy, are you?
	No.
	Do you have anything to say on that topic?
	Well, I think it just relates to the toxic behaviors.
	They're not necessarily nice things.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Not to say you weren't smart for doing those tests, but then again, I think Color Daddy has more extreme examples.
	Yeah.
	They have a shirt that says cheat on him for their merch.
	A little toxic, in my view.
	A little toxic.
	Did you say that?
	I've seen it.
	Oh, you've seen them.
	Okay.
	Well, GP in his chat before, he was asking, minimum a guy has to make a year for you to be monogamous.
	To me?
	To everybody.
	Excuse me, the whole panel.
	Why don't we start with you, and then we'll go around this way.
	Go ahead.
	I feel like, well, I live in LA, so just like the standard of life, I would probably say like at least $100,000 to be able to support yourself.
	You know, I don't want to be supporting anyone.
	You think $100,000 is enough to live in LA?
	Definitely not.
	But to make you monogamous.
	I mean, yeah, I make money, too, so like for me to consider it, like, that wouldn't be ideal.
	Wait, hold on.
	And this is the question that he does ask.
	It is, minimum a guy has to make a year for you to be monogamous to him.
	So it's not clear to me.
	Right, yesterday's praise is not today's praise.
	I'm gonna say, like, 250,000.
	But why do you need to...
	I feel like that's, like, enough to be able to, like, support yourself to be able to do...
	Like, I like to do activities.
	Like, I like to take trips and go to amusement parks and go to dinner and stuff.
	And I feel like those are things that help build a relationship too.
	So I don't want to be having to support someone else.
	I like want you to be able to support yourself and be able to do nice things for me on occasion.
	I'm just a little confused by the question because shouldn't the question be minimum, excuse me, minimum a guy has to make a year for you to be in a relationship with him?
	I'm curious why the monogamous component is a relationship, but he just used the word monogamous.
	Because I'm thinking like, are you trying to suggest that it's less, a guy has to make less or more if it's poly versus monogamy?
	I think it's just if the woman is into poly relationships, like how much would he have to make for her not to be in poly relationships and just be monogamous with him?
	It's not clear to me for women who are polyamorous.
	I'm about to raise my number.
	If the amount of money, if the amount of money the guy makes is going to be the defining factor in whether she wants to be monogamous.
	I think it's more targeted towards women who make their own.
	Yeah, like if you want to come back to someone else.
	That was my first thought.
	My first thought was like that's not like a defining factor.
	And I also don't have like a number written down in my journal and in my head that I like have to check off.
	But I was just answering his question to the best of my ability.
	No, that's fine.
	I wasn't questioning you.
	I was more so just trying to parse the question a little better.
	But since he asked it, minimum a guy has to make a year for you to be monogamous.
	Like, so that I quit my job?
	Or what do you mean?
	Just to be monogamous.
	Yeah.
	Because, yeah, they do adult content.
	Like, they only pick him.
	Yeah, but I can still be monogamous and do...
	Oh, I feel like you can still be monogamous and do certain types of adult content.
	I don't know if it's technically, you might not.
	Well, as far as physically interacting with other people, or like physically hooking up with other people and having certain types of people.
	Like doing solo content or content.
	Doing solo content, doing content just with them.
	Like even when I was a dancer, I was in a monogulous, monogamous relation.
	Monogamous you know I can't always talk that should be a new thing.
	Monogulous monobulous.
	Let's make it a word.
	Monogulous.
	Magrobolis.
	Metropolis.
	Metrobolis.
	Monogamous in the metropolis.
	Let's go.
	I'm not sure.
	I think I have a warped view on money, living in LA.
	Yeah, how much things cost in LA.
	It's just way different.
	The way of life there.
	So I feel like to live super comfortably in LA, you have to make around like 500 to 600 giga.
	Yeah.
	What?
	At least.
	I'm going to go ahead and lock that up.
	Comfortably.
	To like be supporting a woman, probably.
	Yeah.
	500 to 600k?
	That's like two people.
	If you're supporting two people.
	Yeah, it's like two incomes.
	But I said I have a warped view on reality living.
	I grew up in San Luis Obispo, and even in California, everything's like way more expensive.
	So I just have a different view of it.
	That's a high number, but it's like the bare minimum would be like $200,000 or $300,000.
	To live in LA?
	For two people?
	What about if you're in the valley?
	Puffy underscore Vegas donates $99.
	All right, so you have it.
	Okay, so we have to be careful with his Instagram because he posts, okay.
	Thank you, Puffy Vegas.
	Appreciate it.
	Puffy, my brother.
	Just from the start, though, just do through Streamlabs because YouTube is woke Mega Corp.
	Well, okay, whatever.
	Let's check out his Instagram here.
	So let's find a good photo of him.
	Scroll down, Nick.
	He mostly just hang outs with women in Vegas.
	Oh, yeah, well, the kissing one.
	Let's look at the kissing one right there.
	Oh, look at this fucking giga chat.
	Hold on, X out of there.
	Wait, wait, Nick, wait, wait, wait.
	Click it, click it, click it again.
	I want you to write a comment and chat.
	Go to his fucking Instagram and you're going to write a comment on this post too.
	I want you to write, this is what peak performance looks like.
	You might not want to admit it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
	We need to work on Nick's words per minute.
	Oh, my, the typo.
	No, I'm messing with you, Nick.
	You're good.
	This is what peak performance looks like.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	Hard truth.
	Yeah, post it.
	All right.
	All right.
	There you go, Puffy Vegas.
	Let's X out of that.
	Let's see.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	Scroll down.
	Pull up the one with the woman in the center there.
	Yeah, that one.
	Oh, can you move it over to the other side?
	I would be so mad if someone posted a picture of me like that.
	Okay.
	X out of that one.
	Let's find a good phone.
	She didn't deserve that.
	Up a little bit.
	Up a little bit.
	Yeah, that one.
	That one's got a good.
	Oh, but.
	Why does she look like this?
	Were these taken on like an Android?
	Like, what were they taking on?
	Like an Okea?
	Yo, can you X out of that?
	He's holding me a gunpoint to take this photo.
	Yo, scroll down a little bit.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	Okay.
	Can everyone else too?
	Scroll down.
	I'm so sorry.
	Okay, the kissy one, the kissy one.
	Oh, that's a nice dress, though.
	It's pretty.
	I wonder if you link it.
	Okay, this is Puffy Vegas, ladies.
	This is Puffy Vegas.
	On a scale of one to ten, what do you rate him?
	Here, we'll start with you.
	We'll go around the table.
	Well, first of all, let's remember rating is subjective, not objective, but I'm going to have to give him like a 4.6.
	I plead the fifth.
	She pleads the fifth.
	I think I'm going to plead the fifth on this one just because I don't want to be rude.
	I didn't even know we could do that.
	Well, I'm not going to rate him off of his appearance.
	I'm going to rate him off of how he's been acting.
	And I'm going to give him a one because he spent $600 to do all this, but said he wouldn't spend any money on a woman.
	So that's insane to me.
	That's like insane.
	He's like anti-Sim.
	Okay, well, there's no reason why you can't spend money on a woman you like.
	Doesn't mean you're not going to be a man.
	But he's like simping for you.
	Yeah, he's like simping for you.
	Yeah, I'm not anti-Sim, but I'm not sure.
	I don't have to ask a straight man.
	You're spending $600 on this, but you won't spend it on a woman.
	He's paying for you.
	Smart.
	Yeah, 100%.
	You can be a simple person.
	He's supporting the creative arts.
	Or he's homosexual.
	He is.
	I don't think that's the case.
	He's a patron.
	All my fans are also supporting the creative arts.
	Thank you.
	I love you.
	Okay, Madison, what about you?
	Solid four.
	Oh, my man.
	Two.
	I also give a one on behavior because you just paid so much money to insult us when we don't give a fuck.
	Literally.
	You're still real for that.
	You have a two.
	You asked for Puffy Vegas.
	They gave you the rating.
	There you have it.
	Speaking of ratings, we have Stiffler here.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	That's a crazy question.
	It's a golden question.
	Right are up.
	Golden question.
	So we'll go around the table on that, starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	I'm always first.
	In order.
	You know what?
	If I got a blowout and a spray tan and I'm like styled, I would say I'm like, I could push into nine plus territory.
	Plus, I have a really good personality.
	I'm a nice girl.
	Okay, nine plus.
	I would say like eight for me.
	I'm going to say in LA seven.
	I'm from Alabama.
	I'm going to say in Alabama 12.
	Real?
	Yeah.
	That's real.
	LA 7.
	It depends where you're at.
	Yeah.
	I would say LA.
	I'm definitely seven at best.
	What are you in Mobile?
	I did not live there, no.
	I lived in a way tinier town.
	What are you in?
	You wouldn't even know about it.
	Okay, well, in the tiny town, you're 12, but like, come on, Mobile, Alabama.
	Let's talk Mobile.
	I've only been there one time.
	Let's talk Mobile, though.
	What are you in Mobile?
	I don't remember the girls there.
	I would still probably be like an 8.
	Okay.
	9 there, maybe?
	What's the other city in Alabama?
	Montgomery.
	Montgomery, I'm 12.
	There's Montgomery.
	Montgomery definitely.
	Montgomery, I'd be a 12.
	I was about to say Savannah, but that's Georgia.
	That's Georgia.
	Auburn?
	That's Alabama.
	Auburn, yeah.
	Where I'm from, 12 out of 10.
	Tuscaloosa.
	Tuscaloosa.
	I've only been there a couple times.
	That's a sublime.
	That's part of a sublime.
	I would say like a nine there, maybe.
	A nine in the six.
	They're mostly like sorority girl vibes there.
	So I don't know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	My dad fights chopper, isn't it?
	I would say an eight.
	Okay.
	Solid eight.
	With my glasses, a five.
	Without my glasses, a six.
	I would say like eight and a half.
	I just wanted to do a.5 for no reason.
	Okay.
	I'm a super average person, I believe, so six.
	However, I did get a boob job two weeks ago, so I think I deserve to go up half a point.
	Yeah.
	Or come on.
	Oh, no, no.
	Up half a point.
	I might go down depending on the point.
	Depends on the guy, I guess.
	Well, who's a fan of plastic surgery?
	That might deduct me even two points.
	Who knows?
	Okay.
	Oh, ask everyone.
	Uh, six.
	I give myself six.
	All right, cool.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, uh, Puffy Vegas for that.
	We have, oh, I think we're good on there.
	We were caught up on that.
	Oh, we have Brandon.
	Brandon Mels donated $99.
	Rate me in down like $100,000 at this point.
	Also, see you, Chads in November our hashtag Brandon is back.
	Yo, what's up, Brandon?
	Hey, good to see you in the chat, man.
	You gotta hit the threshold, but hey, good to see you in the chat, man.
	You're a fucking legend.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	I had a question related to this.
	Wait, okay, we were going to...
	Mr. Puffy Vegas, I forgot what it was.
	It was a good idea.
	For those of you who do adult content, I guess YouTube primarily, do you know what your work body count is?
	Oh, hold on.
	Stochastic Decay donated $99.
	Stochastic Decay doesn't think these women have ever met a real man.
	Puffy loses masculinity.
	These women are intimidated by his apex testosterone levels.
	W in the chat for puffy.
	That's called delusion.
	That's him on another account.
	Hey Delulu.
	That's called delusion.
	Simping for Puffy.
	I love it.
	Yo, stochastic.
	Thank you very much for the TTS, man.
	Much appreciated.
	We answered that, remember?
	She said over 100, and I said around 30.
	Oh, well, I was asking scenes.
	Work-wise, I would say less than that.
	Are we kind of girls too?
	Girls, too, or only guys?
	Maybe, can you differentiate?
	So this is how many guys, this is how many women?
	For guys, I would say it's the same people over and over, honestly.
	I would say like 30 at most.
	Girls, I think it's more just because there's so many girls.
	It's like oversaturated.
	But probably like 50 girls and like 30 at max guys.
	Okay.
	30?
	Wait, so more women than men.
	Yeah.
	50 girls, about 30.
	Yeah.
	Because you said you shoot with a lot of like the same guys.
	Right, yeah.
	Okay.
	30 to 20.
	But like there's threesums and stuff where like girls are in the scene too.
	So then like that counts too.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	How many guys would you say for me?
	20.
	I'd say 15 to 20 guys.
	Okay.
	And then double, yeah, double that for girls.
	For those of you, both of you and then the other girls who do adult content, do you think having done OnlyFans or porn, adult, whatever, adult content, do you think it's had a negative or a positive impact on your romantic prospects?
	Positive.
	Positive.
	Positive?
	Not even sure.
	I feel like it's positive.
	It's never an issue in my relationship, is the thing.
	For the men?
	Yeah.
	It's never an issue.
	Remember?
	Maybe you did say that you are or you are not attracted to or you attract the wrong men.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They have no issue with careering.
	But you said that you were based on your like childhood and things you've gone through, not yours.
	Wait, am I not understanding the question?
	What is the question?
	Positively, I'm way more confident sexually.
	Like before I ever did porn, I was definitely way more nervous.
	And now I'm just like really, really comfortable with my body and I know what I'm doing.
	So in my real life, guys love that shit.
	So I'm able to have like a hold on guys over girls that aren't as secure and sex.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that when it comes to like having long-term relationships though, that that's a primary focus for men?
	Oh, no, I just think it's just a positive thing that's come from it.
	Okay.
	But I mean like in terms of your romantic prospects, like you've never encountered a guy who had qualms with the fact that you do or did porn.
	I think doing porn opened up like within the past, like year and a half of my life, like has opened up so many doors for me and I've gotten to travel, career right.
	Well, notice even in just like making memories and life experiences of just like meeting people that like I used to like on the internet when I was like 15, like watching, like youtubers and stuff like I've gotten to like be introduced into like a social media world of like meeting all these people that I used to watch growing up and without doing porn I would have never gotten to like have these experiences.
	Well, I'm not.
	You might have opportunities, you might have made a lot of good money, but the question is, when it comes to your romantic prospects, is it positive or negative that you're involved in?
	Honestly, I've never had a guy have an issue with it in the past.
	I feel like the people that I've only been in it for a year and a half definitely I would say most men that I've at least dated like had an issue with it, but it helps weed out the insecure guys and the guys who like, aren't able to handle it, and so guys are insecure if they don't want to be.
	To date someone who has done adults, I wouldn't say you're insecure maybe insecure was the wrong word but like, if you're not open-minded enough to like understand that that's how I make money and like I already had a career, like I've already like been doing this for a while, then it's like I'm weeding out the ones who just can't handle it, who are like I don't know if you finished up everything on yeah yeah live, that's.
	She doesn't, she doesn't do that.
	I feel like oh, you don't okay okay right, all right, but you're thinking about, you're thinking about starting.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, I wouldn't be.
	I probably wouldn't do porn personally, but like I would just do.
	You know yeah, the the reason I bring it up and I don't know if you guys saw this.
	Recently this went pretty viral on I mean, I definitely on Twitter.
	Maybe it reached spread out elsewhere.
	I don't know if you guys are familiar with Trace Cyrus Miley Cyrus's yeah, I saw that so funny.
	Miley Cyrus's older brother, I think older brother, older brother.
	from Metro Station yes from Metro Station he went super viral Nick if you could pull up the yeah could you click on that so it's a little bigger I didn't even read all of it but I got the gist and I replied Nick can you control mouse wheel to make it a little dude Thank you, brother.
	What a fucking giga chat for brain.
	All-serial question for the girls.
	What got you guys into in the first place and do you have a backup plan if it doesn't work out in the long run?
	Yo dude, Brandon Mels, thank you very much for your very generous patronage.
	Show after show rain.
	Have a good answer.
	All right, we got.
	I don't know if the girls are going to want to have any champagne, but they're getting you over at UH 21.
	You're more than welcome.
	Uh, do you guys want to answer Brandon Mels question?
	While I get this opened, my thing is that I didn't get into only fans.
	I was doing porn before, only fans.
	So that was just already kind of like a obvious decision to like do only fans and I don't know what you mean by like a backup plan, like my life isn't ruined because I put my pussy on the porn.
	Yeah, my life.
	I just bought a house.
	Like i'm good, like what got you into porn?
	That's a long story, but tinder, tinder got me into long.
	Did you have a pimp or something?
	No, I had.
	I matched with a guy who was a performer in Miami and I lived in Alabama at the time, going to college, and he just like got me into porn.
	He wasn't really like a pimp, but he was just like a performer in Miami and then I just started doing porn from that long story.
	But that's how I got into.
	But yeah, I wouldn't say I need like a backup plan.
	Like, I don't know.
	I save money.
	Like, I'm not stupid with money.
	That's what they're returning.
	Like, even if I stopped working right now, I'd be fine.
	Like, for the rest of the day.
	Wait, do I forget?
	Did I forget how to fucking open the bottle?
	They're honestly really hard to open.
	Personally, I take a tap.
	I would not point it at Brian's camera or any electricity.
	Oh, don't point to him.
	I can show the fucking cap.
	I think it's a little bit more.
	I should open it.
	It doesn't want to open.
	Did everybody else.
	Can we use this?
	Oh my god.
	Sorry, it's not fucking opening, bro.
	What is popcorn that was mine?
	If you want.
	Did everyone get to answer the question?
	No, no.
	What got you into OnlyFans?
	Bro, it's not fucking opening.
	It's going to like explode, though.
	Please set it a little more upright.
	I would not open it right there for normal.
	Oh, yeah, that's sketch.
	Do it tomorrow by the way.
	No, I've done everything right.
	I've opened these without an issue before.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, no.
	This is scary.
	He's like, don't point that.
	Don't point it at me.
	Just keep it pointed.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	Wait, wait, don't.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Bro, I swear.
	Okay.
	I swear I was doing everything right.
	I don't know why.
	Does anybody want champagne?
	Oh, no.
	No, thanks.
	All right, I'm going to get fucking sloshed then.
	Do you want a rezone?
	You want that?
	Oh, cheers.
	I'm not going to leave you hanging.
	All right, thank you.
	I only have a sip, though.
	I just had surgery.
	Sure, I'll pour you a cup.
	Yo, Brandon Mells, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	No.
	Oh, really?
	I mean, you could.
	It's probably just not the best idea.
	I'm not taking any.
	He's asking what.
	So, what got you guys into if in the first place?
	I don't know if you answered.
	Only she answered.
	I said porn got me into OnlyFans.
	I don't just do OnlyFans like I did porn.
	Oh, first of all.
	What got me into OnlyFans was my back and forth ex finally said that if I got into OnlyFans that he would never date me.
	So I was like, bet.
	Perfect.
	So I got onto it.
	And if I'm using OnlyFans as a way to invest into my career into other things.
	Wait, you started an OnlyFans so he wouldn't date you?
	Yeah, so he wouldn't come back to me.
	And he still came back, but at that point, it was been so long that I was like, dude, I couldn't.
	You couldn't just like say no.
	No, it went back and forth.
	Like I keep saying no, but we get back together.
	And so it was one of those things that I like solidified it.
	It was like, you make this, this is where you're going.
	Then he wouldn't be spraying.
	But he still came back and he was like, hey.
	And I was like, nope.
	Got that.
	Spicy sprite.
	No.
	All right.
	The smell of alcohol isn't a PTSD.
	Sorry.
	It's alright.
	You wanted one, right?
	I just wanted to be a part of a choice.
	Yeah.
	Celebration.
	Champagne.
	Mr. Brandon Mells was very generous.
	So for those of you who are participating, cheers to Mr. Brandon Mills.
	Thank you very much for your very generous patronage.
	Salute.
	You could still be a part of something.
	They're checked out.
	Okay.
	We have.
	We have something to read.
	We have Flan Life here.
	I'm going to hop on the insecurity train as well.
	Rate me on the scale of 1 to 10.
	I'm around 6'5, but I'm a ginger.
	And he's not said anything nasty or mean this show.
	How does it work?
	That's a recessive treat, right?
	So if I'm.
	I think you're overdrinking a little bit.
	No, no, like I don't have any gingers on my side of the family, so I mean, my kids won't be gingered.
	Not that there's anything wrong with that, but what's wrong with being ginger?
	I don't know.
	Well, some people said they don't have souls.
	Well, there we go.
	He's implying that that might be.
	I'm not saying that.
	I'm just saying I've rated it less on the scale.
	Oh, we were doing the Trace thing.
	That's what we were doing before the pop.
	Do you guys want to rate here?
	Want to rate Flan Life?
	He's 6'5, but he's a ginger.
	Just throw out a rating if you want.
	6'5, ginger?
	I'm giving you an 8 without knowing what you look like.
	Yeah, we started an eight.
	6'7?
	7.
	Okay.
	Let's pull up the Trace thing and I'll continue reading that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Are you able to?
	Oh, I don't think.
	Here, just go back to normal and I'll just read it.
	I'll squint.
	Oh, there we go.
	That's better.
	So, this is from Trace Cyrus.
	Miley Cyrus is his brother.
	There's so many girls that do OnlyFans that have lost their chance of ever settling down with a good guy with morals.
	They will try and call those men insecure for having standards.
	They get a lot of attention from guys on OF, so they think they have options.
	But any guy who is so desperate to see sexual content, they are willing to pay for it, is a desperate loser.
	A lot of successful guys will sleep with those girls, but they don't want to wife them.
	I see a lot of these girls speaking out on this now, saying they can't get a serious relationship.
	It's because men see the value in those girls strictly for sex.
	They don't look at those women and equate their value as a future wife, mother, or loyal partner.
	I know some amazing girls that are genuinely good people that do OF.
	I just think this independent mindset of needing a man is extremely toxic and leads to a very lonely future.
	I hope more girls continue to speak up about this so other girls know the risk of getting into it.
	Having a good man in the family will bring you more happiness in old age than OF ever could.
	Scroll down just a little more.
	So this got like 14 million views on Twitter.
	It got a bunch of people responding to it.
	Kind of went a little viral.
	And he also did the little video too.
	Why don't we just watch the video and then I'll have the girls react to just the general statement in the video?
	It's just the next tab over.
	It's always the little dick men yapping away.
	It's the what?
	It's always the little dick men that are yapping away.
	You have Harvard graduate trace.
	What do you say?
	What's the thing with the little dick?
	That is a crazy thing to just be so mad about.
	I don't think he's mad about that.
	But if you're thinking about it that much to make a Twitter post, you're insecure or you're jealous.
	Do you have Twitter though?
	Yeah, I have Twitter.
	I mean, if you make a tweet about it.
	Like that was a long ass paragraph novel of like, let me tell you, what I think about people who don't affect me.
	Like, how are we affecting you in any way whatsoever?
	It probably took him like two minutes to write that.
	Just the energy that went into that is like, why are you even speaking?
	Yeah, like, why?
	Like, what is the point of that?
	It's like you either wanted attention for that or like you are really fired up.
	Yeah, like, I don't even know who that is other than Miley.
	Yeah.
	Like, I've never heard of him other than that.
	So he's got a band.
	He should have just left us shake, shake, shake it, that song, because that was a banger.
	But it's like a fortune affecting you.
	Trace?
	Metro staggering it.
	Exactly.
	It's like, sure, I'll play ball.
	You know, it's like, shake, I don't think that would be awesome.
	Once I get copyright on that, that was beautiful.
	That was.
	Thank you.
	That was great.
	I'm multi-talented.
	Very multi-talented.
	I think it's so weird to care about something that much about people who aren't affecting you in any way whatsoever.
	Like, it's just kind of weird.
	It's weird behavior.
	Like, what an LA fan is.
	That's kind of like displaying society, right?
	Dating in society.
	That's why he probably puts so many shared opinions on that, you know?
	And he, like, completely okay to talk about it.
	I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
	I'm just trying to imply that modern dating is so skewed now.
	And he could have just said that.
	Yeah.
	Isn't dating anyone?
	What's his relationship?
	You know, and you were talking about it that OF is so oversaturated now, like, yeah, with so much, and so many girls are thinking like it's okay for them because everyone else is doing it.
	They can make money, right?
	Yeah.
	And guys, I think, are seeing it.
	They're evolving in a bad way as well, where it's just normal now.
	Yeah.
	Which I don't think it was always meant to be normal.
	But like going into saying that like you can't be a mother or a wife is like really inaccurate.
	Some things might be okay for some people, while other people they aren't like okay for.
	So it's just taking such like a broad stance on something that's like much more common.
	My stance behind it is if you want to be like monogamous, then I obviously don't think that you can find that in someone that's done sex work just because of, like I was talking about it earlier, like the devalue of it.
	I believe like if you want to wife a sex worker, if you want to wife a sex worker, they should be okay with you cheating or whatever you're like you don't want a monogamous relationship, correct?
	Yeah.
	Like you're okay with that.
	But you're saying like even after you're like not working, you don't deserve a monogamous relationship.
	I'm not saying you don't deserve a monogamous relationship.
	That's the conversation.
	People don't expect it.
	Yeah, I don't think you should expect monogamy when you from like an ex-sex worker or like a current sex worker.
	Just sex work in general.
	I think she's saying both.
	So like if I quit porn right now, I should expect a man to cheat on me because I've done porn.
	Not to expect that he would cheat on you.
	I just don't see how you could see a problem with it.
	Like you should be able to agree with me.
	I feel like people can move past their porn and only these days.
	Especially in this day and age.
	It's not like a sexy thing when your man's having sex with someone else.
	I don't think if a girl like previously did sex work and she quits and then she gets into a monogamous relationship with a guy, I don't think that gives the guy carte blanche permission to cheat.
	No, I'm not saying like that's on the terms of your relationship.
	But I do, I mean, I think what he's trying to get at is like your future husband and children are not going to appreciate that there's naked photos of you on the internet.
	Don't get over it.
	I feel like it's fair and important to have an understanding of like because you have that career path, like certain people are not going to be able to deal with that or like people are going to handle it differently and it's unfair to expect that they don't.
	But I don't think that it makes you know having a monogamous relationship impossible for someone.
	I mean there's like so many people that are together, are married, maybe they do OnlyFans with their partner that are monogamous.
	Like there's so many examples of that not being the case to just like act like that's so it's so broad like to act like that's 100% the truth is just false.
	Well in the porn industry I would say probably 70% of the performers are married with children.
	So like it's not like oh my god you did porn like you're never gonna have a family whatever like I would say most of the people in porn have a family and like I feel like the people that do work in the sex industry aren't attracting the people that care about it.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, you'll find the partner that's meant for you.
	Well no they're not like dating they're not like married to people in the industry like they're married to like normal people.
	Yeah.
	I mean some of them aren't.
	No, I'm just saying like they wouldn't care about it, which is why they're fine and have a happy family and everything like that.
	Right.
	Wait, okay.
	But okay.
	I mean I guess the ramification would be is like there is you can at least acknowledge that there's a risk for example with bullying if I mean you know young kids are brutal.
	Oh, your mom, they find the mom's photos, videos, whatever.
	There's also a risk about bullying if you're a ginger, too, you know?
	Like, there's a risk for bullying if you're poor or if you have braces.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	Especially, like.
	But, like, it's going to be a lot of fun.
	My heart would not be going to a public inner city school.
	Like, I don't know.
	I mean, kids' brains are like, I mean, kids like to bully.
	Like, kids will find something to bully someone about no matter what.
	Like, of course, you would try and protect your child from that.
	Yeah, but look, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	You've made your decisions, but that, with any sort of decision, whether it's related to sex work or not, there's going to be consequences to those sorts of decisions.
	Of course.
	But then it's like the money goes into it where it's like, okay, and it's like the intelligence that you have to be able to raise a child.
	Hold on just a sec.
	Oh, it's not going to trigger.
	I can.
	Am I the Bama girl?
	Oh, right, because she said the little dick thing.
	Okay.
	Loose pussy energy from Bama Girl.
	She's projecting hard.
	P.S. I'm not puffy.
	Does Puffy's vernacular include words like dipsomaniac in his repertoire?
	Puffy is such a chad that he doesn't even spell check.
	L in the chat for the incest states, roll eagle.
	Roll eagle is incorrect.
	It's war eagle or roll tide.
	So that's the one thing.
	Is that the first thing I should acknowledge?
	I don't know.
	Is there a roll eagle even a thing?
	Maybe.
	War Eagle or Roll Tide.
	So, first of all.
	Okay, there you have it.
	There you have it.
	I don't remember anything you said.
	I don't care.
	What do you guys think about the term like big dick energy, small dick energy?
	It's a real tick energy.
	I don't really know what that means.
	Approach?
	I don't use it.
	Yeah, I don't really use it.
	I am very much against the terms big dick energy and small dick energy.
	Because I think the reverse would be upsetting.
	Like if I was just talking about loose pussy energy and shit, I think I'll be able to do it.
	See, I use it for both men and women.
	I just use it if like if they're acting like like childish or immature in some sort of way.
	You say they have what?
	What do they have?
	Big dick energy.
	If they're being a child, like and they're like immature or whatever, I'll say that.
	But it's not something I go for because to me, it doesn't really make sense.
	The wording of it.
	Yeah.
	The wording of it?
	Yeah, like big dick energy, small dick donuty.
	I'm like, okay.
	Like I don't get an insult from that.
	I'm just like, okay.
	Like saying loose pussy energy doesn't affect me.
	Yeah.
	I'm pretty sure though, like a lot of people who would find loose pussy energy offensive are fine.
	I feel like you're only going to be bothered by that if it like applies to you and that's something that you are worried about already.
	No, not necessarily.
	You can just in the same like I'm six foot one, but I don't like it when women make fun of short men.
	It doesn't mean I'm short.
	Oh, you said you don't like it or you do?
	I don't like it when women make fun of short men.
	So it's like a solidarity thing.
	But I'm six foot one.
	I don't really have a stake in the short guy.
	Yeah, but if someone was like, oh, you're short, it wouldn't affect you at all because you're not going to be able to do it.
	Oh, you should at least stay for the Treys thing.
	By the way, it's been very rude that you've been checking your phone this entire show.
	I'm sorry.
	I realized that it was so long.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, you did.
	I know.
	I wanted to go on, but we didn't know it was going to be for ourselves.
	You requested to be on the show.
	I know.
	Didn't you say it was only at 8, you said one more hour.
	It's 8.48.
	Well, I mean, as a concession, but we were going to try to wrap up around 9.
	Okay.
	But we go, typically, the shows, we go for 4, and you guys were 30 minutes late too, so we delayed our start a little bit.
	But yeah, I mean.
	I have no excuse.
	I have no excuse for that one.
	You go to the channel that episode Adam was on was five hours.
	So if you gotta go, like, you gotta fucking go, but I'm sorry.
	It's not even so, it's not so upsetting that you have to leave.
	It's just like you've been checked out for the past hour.
	You've been on your phone, like, pissy about the fact that we're going late, even though you requested to be on the show.
	Not pissy.
	I just have like a social battery, and my social battery gets fried.
	I need food.
	If you gotta talk, you gotta, I mean, my social battery gets fried.
	My social battery gets like fried, where it's like at the beginning, I'm like checked in and I'm able to like take part in the debates, but like I reach a point where my social battery, where it's like, I just can't even.
	We also did a shoot today.
	It's still rude to be checking our phone, but like that, that's that's fine.
	Laugh goes on.
	Yep.
	Good meeting you all.
	Take off.
	Thank you for your time.
	Thanks for having us.
	Bye-bye.
	Nice to meet you.
	Drive safe.
	Thank you.
	Let's.
	Well, we can't have you guys linger in the back of the studio if you're leaving midway through.
	So, I mean, we need you to just like, we need you out.
	You can't just be lingering.
	We need you out of the studio, guys.
	Now I have so much to say.
	I don't know if you can do it or not.
	I wish we could spread it out.
	Yeah, can we scoot down?
	Because this corner's so.
	Yeah, we'll scoot people around.
	Okay, like.
	Wait, what's the place if we only have 10 minutes left?
	You can be like here and all the way over here.
	And you can be like, what's up?
	You can choose a different chair every time.
	Yeah.
	I can really kick back.
	Yeah. Sorry.
	Yeah, they were saying a little kind of whispering under their breath as they were leaving.
	But honestly, I should have called out sooner.
	She was fucking checking her phone.
	I should have called out sooner.
	I thought you were going to.
	I was like, okay, I'll let her.
	Oh, fuck.
	I'll let it slide one more time, whatever.
	And then I just was in no conversation.
	I should have checked it sooner.
	She was super rude.
	Like, here, let's take her fucking shit out of Instagram.
	I mean, out of the fucking show.
	I mean, they're talking shit as they're leaving.
	They're fucking, she's checked out the entire show.
	She was rude at the beginning.
	I try to make things cool, but.
	Can I.
	And they were fucking 30 minutes late.
	What's up?
	Can I be here now?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I think maybe we try to readjust something.
	Yo, can you scroll down?
	Yeah, I mean, look, it's crazy because they requested to be on the show.
	I'm pretty sure they probably got linked up with Adam because Adam is her management, I guess.
	Adam's been on the show.
	The shows are three, four, five hours long.
	They were 30 minutes late.
	So I think we started the show a little bit on, I don't know, whatever.
	And then she was rude during there.
	And she's checking her phone when we specifically instructed her not to do it.
	I was just trying to let it slide because I didn't want to get in a fucking another argument with her, especially normally I would check that shit if a girl's checking the phone that much, but we already, I don't know if some of you guys are just tuning in, major fucking argument before.
	So I was like, fuck it, I'm going to just let it slide.
	Whatever.
	I'm just going to bite my tongue.
	But all right, out The description you guys fucking go.
	Like, I'm not, if you're just gonna fucking be rude about it.
	So, it's funny too.
	I was actually gonna try to wrap it.
	What's that?
	I just felt the energy when they walked in.
	What do you mean?
	Like, they were being a little rude while I was doing pre-show, too.
	Were they a little bit?
	They just weren't listening on their phone.
	Oh, they were on their phone.
	Okay, so one thing I'd tell you, Madison.
	So, I'm like when you're doing the pre-show instructions, I'm like handling the cameras.
	I'm not paying attention to so, like, you have the authority here.
	Yeah, but then I, and then I just stopped until they like put their head up in the air.
	Yeah, yeah, you know, feel free, Madison.
	Like, you have the authority to be like, yo, yo, yo, shut the fuck up, pay attention, get off your fucking phone.
	No, I'm giving you that.
	Like, you can, you can tell them to, like, in fucking line.
	Don't, like, if you're, I specifically said, hey, Madison has to go over some pre-show information.
	Please give her your attention.
	Yeah.
	And then, so, hello, super rude.
	Okay.
	Um, Puffy underscore Vegas donated $99.
	Every girl I met gives me a 10 out of 10.
	I will pay for a girl cause if she like you don't have two.
	It's funny that you didn't notice the thousands of girls on my page.
	Many of them are F-creators.
	Every girl you meet is like drunk, toughy, and just like my friends.
	I'll try to wrap through.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Should I move to that seat?
	No, we're not.
	There's a lot of room over here now.
	It's fun.
	I was trying to wrap up anyways.
	I know we're a little jam-packed on this side.
	Run it.
	Maybe I'll do the.
	I want to see it.
	It's okay.
	I'll.
	Okay.
	I mean, I can look it up on my own time, but I might forget.
	Let me ask here.
	Let's ask chat.
	Chat, do you want to watch the video?
	It's like a 45-second video from Trace Cyrus.
	He's just talking about the OnlyFans thing that he read up.
	Chat, one in the chat if you want to see the Trey Cyrus video.
	It's 45 seconds.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Let's watch it.
	Actually, we might try to have Trace on the show.
	We'll see.
	Really?
	You can play it.
	And then you can have him sing this shake shake.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Go ahead.
	I can do backup.
	Shake, shake.
	All right.
	Can you?
	So I basically broke the fucking internet by saying the most logical statement ever.
	I have TMZ, E-News, all these blog sites, over 10 million views on my fucking Twitter post, which I really don't even use Twitter anymore.
	I didn't post this to cause people to freak out or anything.
	I thought what I said was pretty much common sense and everyone knew this.
	I said, no fucking good-hearted man with morals wants to wife a girl who's posting her naked body online for the entire world to see, doing sexual acts on the internet.
	Like, this shit's vile, it's gross, it's disgusting.
	Like, how is this controversial in any way?
	At no other time in human history with what I said would anyone be offended by it.
	Nobody would give a fuck.
	Like, up until three years ago, until the pandemic and everybody just fucking resorted to doing OnlyFans as a courier, nobody would have cared that I said this at all.
	I stand by everything I said.
	I don't care what anybody thinks.
	So, okay, that was the video that was in response to his viral tweet.
	Opening up to the panel, your thoughts on.
	Actually, yeah, let's start with you.
	Go ahead.
	You got scooted into the table a little more, though.
	You know, like, he's entitled to his opinion.
	I feel like there's obviously a lot of people that agree with that, and that's okay.
	I think, you know, he's stating a lot of those things, like, they're fact when it's, like, super debatable.
	Aside from that, this is the first time I've saw it.
	I didn't know it broke the internet.
	I guess thank you for sharing, Travis.
	Trace, what's his name?
	Trace?
	Trace.
	Thank you for sharing.
	And also, I love that Metro Station song, man.
	Next time, bring it back.
	I want to see you perform that.
	That would make me happy.
	Yeah.
	Any reaction to the video?
	Agree or disagree?
	I mean, everybody has their opinion.
	I feel like there's people that probably agree with him.
	I just think it's corny when people take it to the internet because then it just feels like you just want clout.
	Because I don't think you can talk about that with whoever you want to talk about it with.
	And you can feel that way, but why are you doing the most on the internet?
	Like, why are you posting something on Twitter?
	It's kind of just corny.
	Well, I guess it's like, why do you think every...
	Hold on, hold on.
	Do you think women should not post on the internet about abortion?
	It's kind of extra, don't you think?
	I just think the whole thing is extra.
	I feel like it's a lot of people.
	I mean, abortion applies to them.
	You know, he seems to be more fired up and passionate about this subject than me, and it directly applies to me.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I'm not trying to force or like my opinions on other people.
	I don't need other people to like agree with me or have some type of like stance that, you know, like I'm not trying to convince anybody.
	Like, I know how I feel, and like, that's okay with me.
	Here, let's let the other girls weigh in on this.
	Do you have anything?
	I was just gonna like respond to what she said.
	Like, he's just doing it for clout, but don't you think every girl who does OnlyFans is posting pictures for clout and for money?
	No, it's just a monetary thing, you know?
	Like, clout doesn't pay the bill.
	But what?
	That's an I love you, Madison.
	That's an L take.
	What?
	If someone has a position on something, they're just doing it for clout.
	No, I wasn't saying, I'm not saying that.
	You think the girls, but you said he's doing it for clout.
	I know, I didn't say that.
	I didn't say that.
	Okay, so I misunderstood.
	My bad.
	She said that she was just saying that he's posting these things on the internet just for clout.
	I'm just saying, don't you think OnlyFans girls who post their bodies on the internet are doing it for clout too?
	But so do you.
	I agree with what he says.
	Okay, okay.
	End of discussion.
	Okay.
	i mean i respect his opinion and whatnot i don't think it's i i don't Yeah, I mean, I can respect his opinion and share a different one at the same time.
	Two truths to be universal.
	But at the same time, I don't think he's speaking fact.
	It's his own opinion, and he has every right to say anything about it.
	But, you know, it's whatever.
	It doesn't affect me.
	It's not any big deal for me.
	It's just not my type.
	Then move on down the line.
	Liv.
	I would say I kind of agree and disagree a little bit because he said multiple things.
	But I don't think that if somebody had an OnlyFans or porn, that they are just ruined and they're just never going to find a good man.
	I think that there are men out there that are like, I don't care about your past.
	Like, I want to be with you.
	A lot more men are like not okay with the current OnlyFans and porn.
	And I understand that too.
	So I see both sides.
	But I do not think that somebody is just never going to find a man because she had OnlyFans before.
	Like that's kind of just a shitty way of thinking.
	He said it himself in a statement.
	He knows OnlyFans girls that are really good girls like really down to herself.
	So like, you know, at that point, it's just how the men are in taking that information and what they're going to pass their judgments on.
	Do you think it's right that he says like in the future it will affect your kids and things like that?
	I think that depends on your situation for sure.
	There's a lot of things that are affected.
	But I'm not like, you know, like screaming online like everything that's going to affect children.
	Like there's so many things that can affect kids.
	I guess in retrospect, men really do care about your past.
	And that's just, I guess he's more trying to empower the men.
	Should we care about their past?
	Some men.
	Yes, women do care about men's past.
	I said yeah.
	And you know.
	So women just have zero preferences, standards, and boundaries for men.
	Like, let's not kid ourselves.
	Women are incredible.
	Hold on.
	Women are incredibly selective over the kinds of men that they're going to date, that they're going to fuck, and that they're going to marry.
	Of course.
	He needs to be this tall.
	He needs to make this much money.
	It's only upsetting when men have standards, preferences, and boundaries.
	I'm just saying.
	Hold on.
	The moment a guy has any sort of preference, standard, or boundary, it's, oh my God, that's unacceptable.
	That's discriminatory.
	That's not what any of us just, any of us said, though.
	We said that is acceptable.
	I respect your opinion.
	That's okay with me.
	And I accept that.
	Like, we didn't say that's unacceptable.
	We all said that's perfectly fine for you to feel that way.
	But didn't you say why should men care about a woman's past?
	She's no, I said so we should care about because there's a lot of men that do really do know that and then they want to be in a relationship after that.
	That's totally fine.
	If you don't want to date a guy who's for whatever reason.
	I think everybody's different.
	If you care about that and you value it, then that's fine.
	But everybody's different.
	There are people who won't care about that and they can still find a good relationship.
	Also, if I'm boxing people into one box and everybody's different, there's a lot of different crazy personalities.
	Just one point of clarification.
	When you say you're boxing people into one box, are you talking about men who their preference and standard is they don't want to date a woman who's done porn or OnlyFans?
	Is that the box that we're in?
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying he's boxing that all into one box saying that they'll never find anything and everybody's different.
	So there's a chance that someone might not care.
	A lot of people do and that's okay and they can care.
	I think it's hyperbole to say that women who do OnlyFans or who do porn, it's going to be impossible for them to find.
	That's what he said.
	Yeah, right?
	He might be exaggerating there.
	Ultimately, though, I'd have to pull it back up.
	It's just speaking in absolutes about a subject that is way more complicated.
	I'm not going to speak in an absolute about that.
	The more defensible position is, if you engage in porn or OnlyFans or sex work, it's going to be harder for you to secure a long-term relationship.
	It's going to be harder on your children.
	It's going to be potentially harder on your marriage.
	Yeah, but not impossible.
	Of course, the same thing could be impossible.
	The same thing could be said about a lot of other things that make it more difficult to find someone as well, you know, but the focus is specifically on this.
	I think it's a bit of hyperbole on his part to say it will be impossible.
	I think he's just exaggerating to make a point.
	I'm sure if you were to ask him to clarify, he would say if you're not going to be able to do that.
	I mean, he had his hey, do you think it would be possible for one woman who does OnlyFans or porn to find a loving husband and have a happy family?
	He'd probably say yes.
	But he's speaking, I think what he's trying to get at, he's using hyperbole to make a point.
	Generally speaking, I would say if you do sex work, if you do OnlyFans, if you do adult content, it's going to be harder for you.
	You're going to shrink your pool of potential partners because there's just a subset of men that don't want to be involved with women that do porn and OnlyFans and sex work.
	And they don't want to have kids with women that do porn and OnlyFans and sex work.
	There's some men who are not going to have a problem with that.
	The question then becomes, are you going to be attracted to those men?
	I don't know.
	I think there's enough people in the world that it's going to be okay.
	And that's fine.
	I would want a man that would not be bothered.
	I mean, if you're finding a guy to say that.
	But that's the thing.
	You're only going to be like, you're only going to attract the men that aren't going to be bothered.
	And some of them are great.
	Yeah.
	Also, like, you know, if I met a really great guy and he ticked all these boxes for me and I felt like a spark and love and connection with him and there was something, well, like use the example you like to give, like he was short or something.
	I would be able to put that aside.
	Or there was something in his past.
	Maybe they like, you know, and I saw that they were a different person and we had all these great things together.
	Like I would be able to put that aside and not judge their entire character based on that.
	And maybe not everybody can do that.
	And that's totally okay.
	Like doing OnlyFans, like I for sure am not sitting here blind.
	Like it doesn't affect my life.
	Like I understand that and I respect that.
	And I actually really try and understand that more.
	Like what other people's perspective is because like I care about it.
	But like it doesn't like to speak in such absolute like that.
	Like I'm never gonna find a man is I just think it's like aggressive and like kind of not correct.
	Well, I think he said a good man.
	Yeah, well that's a good man.
	But he's saying most good men who have like say traditional values.
	A lot of men with those sorts of values are not going to want to date a woman who's been involved in sex work, OnlyFans, et cetera.
	Trust me, I'm so aware.
	It's my life.
	Oh, so you have encountered difficulties finding a relationship because of that?
	I actually haven't.
	I haven't personally encountered that, but I definitely understand that it's important for me.
	Anyone that I'm like interested or is in seeing interested in or is seeing me that I like check in with them how they feel about that.
	And if someone isn't like okay with that, then obviously they're not the person for me.
	Sure.
	All right, we have, we're moving on.
	All right, Conan 19.
	Oh, you had something really quick?
	Yeah, just really quick.
	I guess this kind of relates to who should like who more.
	And I think the woman should like the man more.
	Just personally, I wouldn't want to attract a simp.
	I don't think men should simp over women.
	But that goes back to what do you have to offer besides like your looks?
	Like if they really care about your past, not something that bothers them, but you're hot.
	And that's the only reason why they want to date you is because you're hot.
	But that's not your value.
	You probably do have other things to offer.
	Probably.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	And like, I know that.
	Like, I had, I do not identify as solely an OnlyFans person.
	I identify as a person based on so many other things.
	That's why so much of this shit doesn't make me feel bad, you know?
	Like, I don't feel bad about myself when I know my value.
	And people can argue with me about it all day.
	Conan 19, thank you, man.
	Gun range for the first date.
	W or L. Go ahead.
	Oh, W. W. W.
	I think that'd be really fun.
	That's fire.
	W, but I prefer throwing knives.
	Okay, you too?
	Oh, yeah.
	Sorry, I was nodding my head.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Nick, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
	Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub.
	Let's see.
	Let me shout these people out.
	Yo, Sammy, thank you for the prime.
	Pibbers, can you move it over?
	Pibbers, thank for the prime.
	Jennifer, thank for the tier one.
	I might have already read these.
	Siro, thank for the prime.
	Viking, Mac, thank for the prime.
	Gion nen.
	Oh, that's neon genesis.
	It's like you gave me dyslexia there.
	Yo, thank you for the prime, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Let's see here.
	I think we're caught up fully on chats.
	After show, Maddie.
	I'm down.
	I'm kind of, I don't.
	Maybe how long we kind of have a headache, but yeah, I think I just want to wrap up.
	No after show tonight, guys.
	Let me just double check one last thing here.
	I'm going to go, those of you who are watching on Twitch, guys, I'm going to host somebody.
	One sec.
	Let me pull up the outro here.
	Sorry, guys.
	I want to try to host somebody on Twitch.
	So, guys, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	Just one kind of commentary on tonight's show.
	You know, we have a lot of girls reach out wanting to be on the show.
	I'd say, hey, if you want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	Ladies, please do a modicum of research before messaging us.
	It amazes me how many people come on the show and they're like, oh, I thought this was an hour podcast.
	It's like, we've done almost 100 of these shows.
	They're between three, four, five hours.
	If that's too long for you, don't come on the show.
	Don't have an issue with it, but don't come on the show and then show up late.
	We've had times where the girls show up late, necessitating us to start late, and then they get all start rolling their eyes.
	Oh, the show's going long.
	Even though they requested to be on the show, they're on their phones.
	They're being rude.
	Look, you want the show to end on time.
	Don't show up late.
	It's very simple.
	It's very simple.
	They said, oh, I'll be five minutes late.
	They're 30 minutes late.
	Okay.
	So if you're hungry, in the pre-show instructions, we say, eat a hearty meal before the show.
	My last meal was right before, was at 2 p.m.
	It's 9 p.m. now.
	So look, do a modicum of research, ladies.
	If four hours is too long for you, then just don't come on the show.
	Whatever.
	It's not a big deal.
	It's funny because if they stayed an extra 20 minutes, like we were wrapping up soon, anyways.
	In any case, and actually, you know what?
	If they were kind of more polite about it, if they just said, hey, I'm sorry, we got to get home to LA.
	But like, she was on her fucking phone, checked out of the conversation.
	So you request to be on the show.
	You want to be on the show.
	We ask you before the show, don't check your phone.
	We shouldn't even have to ask that.
	It's just fucking rude in the middle of a conversation to be checking your phone.
	In any case, if they had just sat there politely, continued with the conversation, my social battery blow.
	Okay, whatever, bro.
	Maybe you shouldn't have booked a fucking porn shoot before a two-hour drive and then a four-hour podcast gig.
	I don't know what to tell you guys.
	Okay, guys, last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Last thing.
	Okay, last thing, last thing.
	Look, we've had people that need to leave and they'll politely excuse themselves or they'll stay for a little bit.
	But just don't be rude and be on your fucking phone and have a fucking sour puss on your face and be rolling your eyes.
	I let it fucking slide because we already had an argument early on in the show.
	I was like, whatever.
	I'm just going to let it go.
	But then she just, okay, anyways, whatever.
	Thank you to the panel that made it to the end here.
	Thank you to everyone who Super Chats donates and supports the show.
	Normally the shows are not this combative, but it is what it is.
	I don't I don't know if it's good content but I think we've got TikTok memes now.
	Nick, can you scroll down?
	Or actually just show more the chat.
	It's fine to like, I like having debates with people, but when it gets fucking nasty and like, I don't know.
	I think you can have good debates with people and activity detected.
	Oh, weird.
	It's fun.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you to Britt, who's helping with timestamps.
	Any women who want to be on the show and who can stay for the entire show, DM us on Instagram at whatever.
	We will be live again.
	Let's see.
	Tuesday.
	Wait, no, today's Tuesday.
	Excuse me.
	We're going to be doing a Thursday show, guys.
	It's going to be a little later.
	It's going to be 7 p.m.
	We have a very, very, a pretty big guest coming on Thursday.
	It's going to be a good show, guys.
	So be sure to tune into that.
	Guys, we'll see you next time.
	Have a good night.
	Nick, before you end it, let me just.
	Any final thought?
	Okay, before I end, I'm going to do a Twitch raid.
	I want to give anyone here an opportunity, final thought.
	Is there anything dating-related you want to get off your chest before we wrap up here?
	Liv, I feel like you didn't get to speak much, so if there's anything.
	I actually had kind of like a question for Liv.
	Okay.
	You said you were thinking about doing OnlyFans.
	What's stopping you from it?
	I feel like I'm doing well right now, like on income, pretty much.
	So I just, it could be like an extra one that I add on to in the future.
	Is that the only reason that you were for right now, yeah?
	Okay.
	Any final thoughts, Liv?
	No, I'm tired.
	All right.
	Okay, chat.
	Do we raid?
	So this is on Twitch.
	Mitch Jones, World of Warcraft player, or Bobka, World of Warcraft player.
	Mitch Jones, World of Warcraft, or Bobka, World of Warcraft.
	Let's see.
	Is Bobka a rogue?
	Hold on.
	Bobka.
	I think we do Bobka.
	Whoops, hold on.
	One sec.
	One sec, guys.
	One sec.
	Bobka rogue.
	Just remember, you can see.
	Yeah, we're going to raid Bobka.
	Yeah, I was going to say there's non-nudity in the future.
	Mormon moms are in bikinis.
	Yeah, that's a thing.
	Yeah.
	What if I just said OnlyFans have just made pancakes?
	I'm raiding Bobka so you guys can do that.
	Oh, rating intensity.
	It's like the title of having like OnlyFans kind of like hobbies on OnlyFans.
	07's in the chat.
	07s in the chat, guys.
	I respect that.
	Because there's a lot of people that are just like, bye.
	Yeah.
	What if I just made an OnlyFans to like read Bible verses?
	I know Bob does OnlyFans and she only cooks.
	Like there's, you know, so like.
	One sec, guys.
	One sec.
	It's deeper than that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's more complex.
	Yo, we're raiding Bobka.
	All right.
	07's in the chat, boys.
	07's in the chat.
	Thursday, this Thursday.
	We're doing, I know we don't do sh shows normally on Thursday.
	We're doing a show on Thursday.
	Be sure to tune in.
	See you on Thursday, guys.
	7 p.m.
	Good night, guys.
	Bye.
	Wait, raid that one.
	Did I raid it?

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