She Is "Traditional" BUT Has An ØF?! | Dating Talk #94
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| Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. | |
| So please tell us your name, age, and occupation. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Hi, I'm Christy. | |
| I'm 33 years old, and I'm an OnlyFans model. | |
| I'm Monica. | |
| I am 22. | |
| I do hair, and I'm in airport customer service. | |
| You're a hairstylist? | |
| I wouldn't say hairstylist. | |
| Oh, you cut hair? | |
| No. | |
| Are you a barber? | |
| No. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like what? | |
| Like, I have bray hair, I do wigs. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you don't cut hair? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because I know people who cut hair, that's kind of a red flag. | |
| No, I don't cut. | |
| Okay, okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Hi, my name is Yuan. | |
| I'm 36, and I am a physician, specifically a neurologist. | |
| You're an MD, is that correct? | |
| I am. | |
| And you said you were a neurologist? | |
| I am. | |
| That's right. | |
| All right, rock and roll. | |
| Hi, I'm Kelly. | |
| I'm 21, and I'm a personal stylist, and I also do content creation through Nordstrom, and I'm currently also a student. | |
| You do content creation through Nordstrom? | |
| Okay. | |
| Like you post to their pages or social media manager? | |
| Yes, I have my own page where they'll use my content on their own pages. | |
| And then I also do styling videos for the website. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| Hello, my name is Madison. | |
| I'm 18 years old. | |
| I work for the Brian Atlas. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Well, normally you say whatever podcast, so I guess it's a lot of fun. | |
| I decided to change it up. | |
| I'm a host at a bar as well as a student at Santa Barbara City College setting business. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| I'm Alex. | |
| I'm the host of the Spillover podcast and also real Alex Clark on YouTube. | |
| Did you say age? | |
| Oh, and I'm 30. | |
| 30, okay. | |
| I'm also 30. | |
| My name is Isaac Butterfield. | |
| I'm a comedian from Australia. | |
| Also a YouTuber, an author, and a father. | |
| Yeah, great. | |
| And you've reacted to a couple of our videos. | |
| I have. | |
| I have. | |
| You've got a great channel, man. | |
| Oh, thank you, brother. | |
| I was really hoping Al Weezy would be in here today. | |
| Next time. | |
| Next time, I will make the flight back just for Al. | |
| Perfect. | |
| We'll make it happen. | |
| Put me next to her, please. | |
| Three times at Charm. | |
| I'm the Q-Pill, behavioral scientist, certified relationship coach, also author of YouTube. | |
| I say YouTube. | |
| I'm the author of Amazon's number one newcoming book, The Q-Pill, an Overdose of Reality, the Remedy for a Cool World. | |
| And I do content creation as well. | |
| I'm a YouTuber, anti-political, correct. | |
| Anti-politically correct. | |
| I'm also 30 years old. | |
| 30. | |
| It's the 30 corner. | |
| It's the 30 corner. | |
| It's the old corner. | |
| There you go. | |
| All right, great. | |
| So we're going to go around the table one more time. | |
| So what is your current relationship status? | |
| Are you single? | |
| Talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult. | |
| If you're single, how long have you been single? | |
| And what's your longest relationship? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| My longest relationship is three years. | |
| I got out of my last relationship five months ago. | |
| And I got engaged in the DMs from my ex, a different ex, one of my exes. | |
| So I think we're getting married. | |
| Wait, hold on, Okay, you were on the last show. | |
| You were here on Tuesday. | |
| Yeah, I know a lot of you. | |
| You were single. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And now you're engaged to your ex-girlfriend. | |
| Well, yeah, we got engaged in the DMs. | |
| He proposed an idiot. | |
| That's true. | |
| Yeah, he's a Republican, and he comes from a traditional family, which I know no one believes I can get. | |
| But yeah, so I had to stay here a lot longer. | |
| I didn't expect to be here. | |
| So one of the only people I knew in LA was my Eskimo sister. | |
| And our ex, like, I keep in touch with him anyway. | |
| And I asked him why he's not a dad. | |
| And he asked me if he could make me a mom. | |
| And I said, it depends where we live. | |
| And he said, Florida. | |
| So I said, do I have to change my relationship status for the podcast? | |
| And he thought it'd be a good idea. | |
| And I asked him if this was a marriage proposal. | |
| And he said it was. | |
| So we're planning a life together. | |
| Wait, so okay. | |
| A couple points of clarification. | |
| You said your longest relationship with three years. | |
| Is this the ex that you're not engaged to? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| This is like a different ex. | |
| Oh, so actually this ex, I he kind of called me out like the other night because I ghosted him to get into the three-year relationship. | |
| And then when we broke up, we started talking again. | |
| So. | |
| Wow. | |
| Haram! | |
| So, well, the last time you were on the show, you said you were in the talking stage with a couple people, correct? | |
| How many prior to this engagement, how many talking stages were you in? | |
| You said it was a few. | |
| Yeah, like I was talking to two different guys that live in Miami. | |
| Oh, just two? | |
| There's a few more, wasn't there? | |
| Well, like two main contenders. | |
| Two main. | |
| Okay, so you had two main pieces, I guess. | |
| Yeah, two, like, main. | |
| And I thought. | |
| How many side pieces did you have? | |
| I mean, I don't know. | |
| Do my fans count because I had two main contenders, to be honest. | |
| I didn't expect him to want to mom me up, so that kind of came out of the blue. | |
| I do talk to him a lot, but I think it was the fact that I was hanging out with my Eskimo sister that I even asked him about the kids thing, and then you know, things just escalated from there. | |
| There's a lot going on. | |
| Yeah, wait, that's a lot. | |
| So, are you planning on? | |
| I'm still over the proposal in the DM. | |
| Yes, as long as he moves to Florida, like he says, yes, we will be having kids in a traditional household. | |
| Wait, so he's did he see you on the podcast, and that's what he, um, we talk in the DMs, like we talk, we keep in touch a lot. | |
| Um, but he did react to like um a story, okay. | |
| And then I was gonna hit him up since I was like with my Eskimo sister anyway, and we were like, We're just confused why you're not a dad by now because like he's kind of in the public eye, so like he's sure he has a lot of opportunities. | |
| And um, Nick, can you pull up that photo? | |
| You know, the photo of the guy. | |
| I think I know who this might be. | |
| Nick, you know which photo to pull up? | |
| I don't think you do. | |
| It's not that it's not the website, it's the photo. | |
| So, you're not single engaging. | |
| You got one, you got it, Nick? | |
| I'm apparently engaged, but I'm waiting. | |
| I'm waiting till it gets to the end of the day. | |
| There's only one photo. | |
| But he did say it was a marriage proposal. | |
| I specifically asked. | |
| Is it this guy? | |
| Oh my god, I wish it was him so badly. | |
| Like, I don't want him to cheat on Melania or anything, but like, but yeah, if he proposed, I would totally trump his daddy, so yeah, I would ghost this guy for a second time, to be honest. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| You would ghost the guy who you're now engaged to for Donald Trump? | |
| Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. | |
| What is it about Trump? | |
| What is it about Trump? | |
| It raises everything. | |
| I think, like, it's the way he talks. | |
| He's got Riz. | |
| It's the way he talks. | |
| Out of all the presidents, President Trump has the most Riz. | |
| No one can deny that, whether you're on the right or the left. | |
| What is Riz? | |
| What is Eskimo's guest? | |
| Where am I? | |
| He's got the Eskimo sister. | |
| There's like two girls who have hooked up with the same guy. | |
| Oh, like. | |
| Or, like, you've kissed the same guy. | |
| So it's. | |
| We found out after the fact. | |
| We actually found out at a wedding shower. | |
| Our mutual friends, like, by the way, you both. | |
| Yeah, she's twins. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But then we ended off because we loved Trump so much, and then we had like the guy in common. | |
| Now we became friends. | |
| I'm just curious how, in a less than a seven-day period, you went from having multiple talking stages, multiple situationships, to not being engaged. | |
| Oh, date. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, it just because, well, I mean, he's asked, he's told me he's wanted to date me before. | |
| This isn't like anything new. | |
| So you're going to marry someone? | |
| Wait. | |
| I'm waiting till he puts the ring on it. | |
| But like, why would you say, but even if he puts it on the ring on it? | |
| I mean, I like him. | |
| How old are you? | |
| 33. | |
| That's nothing. | |
| I like the way you use quotes, though. | |
| Well, yeah. | |
| There's a lot of quotes going on. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Who are you quoting? | |
| I'm just saying, like, you never know if it's going to happen, but we had a conversation. | |
| It definitely might not happen as it is. | |
| Well, that's why I'm doing quotes, but what is Powell? | |
| I'm doing pretty fast here. | |
| Power is in the palm of my hand. | |
| Can you show it to this camera right here? | |
| Oh, there's like Powell hand jobs or something. | |
| Well, that's why it's faded, to be honest. | |
| Actually, it used to just be like really black and dark, and there was no holes in the middle of it. | |
| So it got faded from hand jobs? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So his man walked around. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I lost 33 tracks. | |
| You being 33 tracks, apparently. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know what that means. | |
| Mr. Meepal, can you elaborate on that one? | |
| It means it makes sense. | |
| It means it makes sense that she's 33. | |
| But I mean, what he's referring to, I don't know. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, thank you, Eli. | |
| Oh, wrong. | |
| I got you. | |
| Do you think he'd be upset by the poll you would Donald Trump thing? | |
| Oh, no, no, no. | |
| He's been seeing my IG stories from the start. | |
| He knows my love for Trump. | |
| We both love him, but he doesn't want to. | |
| Do you think he would? | |
| Do you think your now fiancé would call off the engagement if he could get with Trump? | |
| No, okay. | |
| He doesn't go that way. | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm in a relationship. | |
| I've been in a relationship three years. | |
| We just hit our three-year anniversary last month. | |
| I like to say I'm happily married. | |
| I do plan on getting married to him, so. | |
| Wait, so are you engaged? | |
| No. | |
| But I like to say I'm happy. | |
| Like, that's my little, if people ask, like, oh, are you in it? | |
| Yeah, that's my quotes. | |
| If people are like, oh, you're in a relationship, I'm like, I'm happily married. | |
| But you're not. | |
| But I'm not. | |
| But I'm not. | |
| Okay. | |
| But it's the quote. | |
| But it's the quotes. | |
| It's the clothes. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Okay. | |
| Your wife feed to yourself. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| And is this your longest relationship? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm in a relationship for about two years, and my longest relationship is about two and a half. | |
| All right. | |
| I've been in a relationship for a little bit over a year and a half, and it's my longest one. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm very happily in a committed relationship. | |
| And this is my longest relationship. | |
| It's been 11 months, almost a year. | |
| I just want to say prove y'all wrong because y'all thought I was going to only be in it for 10 months. | |
| Okay, she has proved everyone wrong. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I'm single. | |
| I've been single for a little over a year and my longest relationship is a year and a half. | |
| Okay. | |
| I have been married for a year. | |
| We've been together for the best part of a decade. | |
| Been together for a decade. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| She's the funniest human I know. | |
| So that's. | |
| Does she also make YouTube content? | |
| Yeah, we've got a YouTube channel together, Lil Butzman, and we have a podcast together, The Mom and Dad Show, where we have our son, Atticus, on. | |
| We don't show his face that much because people in the comment section are weird. | |
| They try to diagnose people with, like, there's a few YouTubers she watches where they'll have like their son or their daughter and they go, oh, I think that's definitely autism there. | |
| There's something in the comment section and whatnot. | |
| So it's, we sort of just hide his face or hold him towards us, that type of thing. | |
| But she's hilarious. | |
| She could easily be a comedian. | |
| Okay. | |
| But she's a lovely human. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| And Q, what about you? | |
| I'm currently single, unmarried. | |
| That's what that means. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm enjoying the bachelor life right now. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I'm ready to settle down. | |
| I probably will, maybe in another two years or so. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do you have any girls in any girls in the picture? | |
| A couple girls, one girl? | |
| What? | |
| Yeah. | |
| All of the above? | |
| All of the above. | |
| Okay. | |
| All of the above. | |
| Okay. | |
| I got options. | |
| And so you, what's your longest relationship you've had? | |
| My longest relationship was three years. | |
| Three years. | |
| Okay. | |
| Three years. | |
| So you've got like a harem, basically? | |
| I don't want to say a harem. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But you do. | |
| You do, but you don't want to say. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're a handsome guy, so I mean, I don't, it's. | |
| Yeah, is it a harem or is it a roster? | |
| It probably would more be a roster, if we're being honest. | |
| But there is a lady who takes the cake. | |
| You have a main girl. | |
| Yeah, if I settle down, it's definitely going to be with her. | |
| You know, she's leaving the rest of the girls in the dust right now. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| But she knows that you see other women, too. | |
| Yes, I always communicate up front with the women that I date that dating multiple women until I decide that one is sufficient enough that I can put all my eggs in that basket. | |
| Sure. | |
| Until they show me that I can put all my eggs in that basket. | |
| Why do you keep up with so many? | |
| I don't. | |
| It's hard. | |
| I don't. | |
| I don't. | |
| Yeah, they kind of, what they do is I'll talk to one here, one there. | |
| We'll hang out. | |
| We'll do whatever. | |
| Then I let them go in the win. | |
| Then just, you know, when they pop back up, I'd be like, oh, you want to do this? | |
| You want to go here? | |
| They'd be like, sure, you know, I would love to. | |
| And I'm like, okay. | |
| I think girls like that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I never had that when I was young. | |
| I was super desperate. | |
| I was just like, please. | |
| And I'm on my male mission. | |
| So I'm on my mission in life to become who I want to become. | |
| So until I'm happy with myself fully, then I can't fully give myself to a woman until I'm content with where I'm at. | |
| So they kind of have to wait it out. | |
| So if they just happen to date somebody else. | |
| FDG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships. | |
| Really appreciate it, man. | |
| Does that trigger a fit check? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Go ahead with your point, though. | |
| Oh, I was just saying, as I'm on my journey to figure out who I am, if they end up dating somebody else and I tell them, if you want to date somebody else, go ahead and date somebody else. | |
| I'll see you when I see you. | |
| And the one who's sticking around, that'll be the one that I marry. | |
| What qualities does that one girl have that doesn't compare to the others? | |
| Oh, commitment and loyalty, respect. | |
| Like even when it's the most difficult of times, she's still there. | |
| She pick up the phone when I call. | |
| When I'm hurt, I can count on her to give me a massage, stretch me, cook me dinner when I need dinner. | |
| She does pretty much everything. | |
| She's there. | |
| It's loyalty. | |
| So is that always committed and go both ways or is it just kind of one-sided? | |
| Oh, it depends on the type of loyalty you're talking about because for women, women are typically sexually loyal. | |
| Whereas a man, we're loyal with who we invest our time in. | |
| So she gets more time than any other woman would get. | |
| Lucky her. | |
| Yeah, we do more things together than any other woman. | |
| So if I want to be vulnerable, I feel I can be vulnerable with her. | |
| I don't necessarily feel that I can be vulnerable, open up to other women. | |
| But she knows that you are sexually active with other people. | |
| Yep. | |
| Okay. | |
| And even then, it's seeing how she responds to the situation. | |
| See, I don't actually just go out and actively. | |
| So it's a test? | |
| Not a test, but it's so she doesn't feel betrayed. | |
| So it's like, if I do this, know that I probably would do it if the opportunity presents itself, but I'm not going out there hunting. | |
| Like I'm not approaching women day in and day out. | |
| Like, I'm trying to talk to you. | |
| I'm trying to, you know, I'm not doing that. | |
| But if I go somewhere, because I travel and things like that, if a woman pops up, she may come back to the hotel room. | |
| She may not. | |
| Is she okay with that? | |
| And does she know that that's a possibility that might happen? | |
| Yeah. | |
| She know now. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, you know. | |
| She knew before. | |
| I wouldn't put her on the spot like that if she didn't. | |
| She knew before. | |
| She knew before. | |
| Thank you for the membership. | |
| Sorry, Ron. | |
| Would you say that she's your best friend? | |
| Yes. | |
| I think that's the number one thing with the person you end up with. | |
| That's what it becomes. | |
| If you can grow old with that person, if you're happy to look at them when they're sitting there in a diaper when they're 80, 90 years old, and still they make you laugh, they make you happy, that's your person. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So just to clarify the loyalty part, it sounds like how you interpret loyalty from one way is different from loyalty the other way. | |
| Because it's demonstrated in different ways behaviorally between men and women. | |
| Yeah, as I said. | |
| So women, like I said, I can tell a woman, you're free to do whatever. | |
| But if that woman doesn't want to do it, she just made her choice. | |
| She doesn't want to do it. | |
| And why she doesn't want to do it? | |
| She's attached. | |
| She's committed. | |
| She wants to see what happens between us, what comes between us, you know, what develops between us. | |
| Me, on the other hand, like I said, it's with my resources, where my time's spent, where my pockets go. | |
| So that's typically how I show loyalty outside of sexual loyalty. | |
| Do you think that your attention to like other women, say, though, interferes with your investment in this one girl? | |
| No. | |
| How many side girls do you have? | |
| How many side girls? | |
| Side pieces, yeah. | |
| Jesus. | |
| Maybe only about four. | |
| Four? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Maybe. | |
| Maybe four. | |
| Maybe only about four. | |
| You can't have four. | |
| Maybe only about four. | |
| There's a limit. | |
| There's dudes out there desperately trying to find love and you're in here. | |
| Hogging everyone. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| Disgraceful. | |
| So I hear what you're saying that, you know, what you want and maybe what your partners want are a little bit different. | |
| So it hunts you to find loyalty a little bit differently. | |
| I guess with ethical non-monogamy, which it sounds like what you're doing, a question that often comes up for me is that time is a finite resource, right? | |
| So if you're spending time with one, you can't spend as much time with someone else. | |
| So how do you sort of, how do you sort of think about that with time being such a finite resource? | |
| Well, I'm actually a relationship guy. | |
| Like I like being in a relationship. | |
| I like being committed to one woman. | |
| But as I said, it's one of those things, it sounds complex. | |
| One sec. | |
| Yo, FDG, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| It sounds complex, but I've been navigating it really well. | |
| And this has been going on probably since 2016 with just me, well, I was in a relationship in 2018. | |
| I was in a relationship for a year. | |
| Was committed, monogamous, had no issues there. | |
| But as I said, as I'm on my journey trying to obtain everything I'm trying to obtain with this newfound going viral and blowing up here and on YouTube and everything, just traveling, doing different podcasts, I see a different side of life and I'm not ready to settle down yet. | |
| So it's kind of, if you want to stick with me through this journey as I gain more finances, as I gain more resources, then I'm going to remember that. | |
| And when it's time for me to settle down, I do have that one girl in mind that I want to settle down with. | |
| So it's kind of like, I'm not going to stop dealing with women just because I'm by myself. | |
| Is it that you love women so much? | |
| Yes. | |
| You need more than one. | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| There you go. | |
| Yes. | |
| I love that. | |
| If she asked you to settle down now, would you say no? | |
| If she asked me to settle down now, would I say no? | |
| No, probably not. | |
| Probably not. | |
| Would you risk losing her for not waiting? | |
| I mean, you'd risk losing her so that you can get it. | |
| To get where I need to be. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I guess sometimes, like, depending on what you're doing in life and where you're going, sometimes you can't take everybody with you. | |
| Right. | |
| So you have to. | |
| But also, in saying that, sometimes you've got to make sacrifices. | |
| So if you see that this is a very important part of your life to be with this person that you love, then perhaps you need to find a different way to approach how you're creating content, traveling, all these type of things. | |
| Like for me, for example, my wife, when I just started out in comedy, she was working. | |
| Okay, Flanlaife, thank you for the 50 gifted. | |
| Go ahead, Isaac. | |
| Listen, just. | |
| Thank you, Flannel. | |
| I'm going to keep it. | |
| Yeah, I know there. | |
| When she was working normal jobs, all that type of stuff, and I'd be away. | |
| But I made it, so I only went away from Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, and I was always back for the week. | |
| So we'd be there, we'd be together, and we'd spend that time together. | |
| It cost me more money to travel and all those different types of things, but that was a sacrifice that needed to be made at that point in our lives. | |
| And, you know, from that, from other sort of sacrifices we made, we now travel together everywhere. | |
| I think that's the important thing is like you've got to see who will come with you on the journey. | |
| But sometimes you need to sort of change your approach to the relationship to make sure that they are able to come with you on the journey. | |
| I got a question for you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Are all your girls like your main girl? | |
| Did you say you had, there's one main girl or were there's like, was it two main girls or just one main girl and then four side girls and then maybe there's some other girls that come and go. | |
| No, I mean the four that are my sides, they like come and go. | |
| So that's what I'm saying. | |
| Like I don't I don't look for them. | |
| I don't search for them. | |
| If they hit me up like, hey, I'm trying to link, I'm like, I'm cool with that. | |
| You know, I don't go looking for them. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I don't say, I don't say, yo, I need you to come over. | |
| I want to see you. | |
| They don't get that from me. | |
| Most of the time, the only one who gets that from me is the one that I talk to on a consistent basis. | |
| Are they all, including your side girl, all loyal to you? | |
| I have no idea, honestly. | |
| Well, hopefully they're not going to be after seeing this. | |
| I have no idea. | |
| Side girl members. | |
| I assume they aren't. | |
| I assume they aren't. | |
| Even your main girl? | |
| No, no, definitely not her. | |
| I know she's, I know she's loyal. | |
| I have a question. | |
| Does the main girl one watching this know she's the main girl? | |
| Or are the other four things? | |
| No, no, she knows. | |
| She knows. | |
| She knows. | |
| And she knows that she'll probably be the one that I marry. | |
| To the other four, no, they're not that main at all. | |
| They can't. | |
| They couldn't be. | |
| There's no way they could assume that. | |
| We don't hang out enough. | |
| We don't do enough. | |
| We don't see each other enough. | |
| I have a question. | |
| Sorry. | |
| So you just told her, like, you wouldn't, if she was to say, like, drop everybody. | |
| Drop all your money. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Yo, FTG, thank you for the gifted 50. | |
| We'll get the fit check in a sec. | |
| I just said, like, if she was to say, drop everybody from me, you just say you wouldn't do it. | |
| But you're saying, like, but you also say you like being in a relationship. | |
| So I'm kind of, I just need a little bit of clarity. | |
| Like, I'm trying to figure out. | |
| It's when I'm ready. | |
| So if she asks me to, and I'm not ready, I'm not going to. | |
| Once I'm ready, if she wants to come along with that, then that's when it'll be on my terms, basically. | |
| It'll be on my terms. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| Okay. | |
| And there's nothing you can do about it. | |
| Some people just danced deacon. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's the difference. | |
| When she asked me that, she said, if she wants it. | |
| And it's like, she doesn't determine that. | |
| I'll gatekeep my commitment. | |
| Okay, so the gatekeeping of commitment, let me just say this. | |
| As somebody who is dating for marriage and has been since probably I was 18, I mean, my entire life, I feel like I encounter that more often. | |
| And my friends and I are women who are looking to get married. | |
| And it's guys that give BS answers like that. | |
| It's not the women who are out here. | |
| Like, I feel like the chat makes it seem like all women are like hoes and nobody wants to settle down or get married or live a traditional life. | |
| Right. | |
| I encounter way more men like that with that mindset than the opposite. | |
| Wait, you encounter way more men? | |
| Met basically, like men who are like, you know, I'll be ready when I'm ready, even though I'm 30 years old. | |
| Like, I'm not looking to get married. | |
| Hold on, just dissonated $100. | |
| Lots of cognitive dissonance coming from this guy. | |
| Do you have a response to Mr. Meepal? | |
| Lots of cognitive dissonance? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| I mean, I wouldn't completely deny that it's cognitive dissonance because as I pointed out, I'm naturally a relationship guy. | |
| So this is kind of the route that I'm taking to ensure that I'm comfortable with myself. | |
| Alex. | |
| But as I said, I'm not going to stop dating women just because, you know, I'm. | |
| You did find like one in a thousand of girls, you know, though. | |
| Like, you found a really great woman. | |
| And are you willing to risk that? | |
| No, I'm holding on to her. | |
| Yeah, but like, what if she was like, what if she was like, oh, like, you have, I want to get married. | |
| I want to be with you. | |
| And I only want to be with you. | |
| I've been loyal to you, but I don't want you to see other people. | |
| I don't want you to see other women. | |
| Well, I'll give you an example. | |
| I'll give you an example. | |
| We had a conversation recently, right? | |
| And I asked her if she felt that she deserved commitment because essentially when we first started dating, it was just us two. | |
| I was monogamous. | |
| I was exclusive. | |
| And she was sabotaging. | |
| She wasn't sure. | |
| She was insecure. | |
| She wasn't sure if this, what she wanted. | |
| So I told her, I said, well, if you're going to sabotage, then I'm going to date other people. | |
| See, I didn't disclose that to y'all. | |
| It started off rocky. | |
| So I said, I'm going to date other people because you don't know if you actually want this. | |
| So when I communicated that to her and I went on about my business, she popped back up like, no, I do want this. | |
| I'm going to try. | |
| And I said, nah, I want to date other people. | |
| If you want to stick around and wait to see, you know, that's what happened. | |
| So I didn't start off that way. | |
| How long have you guys been talking? | |
| It's been almost three years. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, it's been almost three years. | |
| That's why I'm not sure. | |
| How old is she? | |
| She's been here. | |
| She's 26. | |
| Get out. | |
| She's been going anywhere. | |
| Because he's 30 and he's still like, I don't know what I want and I'm not ready to settle down. | |
| And she's getting close to that age where she's got to figure that out. | |
| She's wasting time. | |
| And she could find a guy that wants to be married. | |
| Yeah, but see, other guys ain't as dope as me. | |
| So difficult. | |
| That's what. | |
| Yeah, see, y'all forget that. | |
| We're aware when girls don't want to date other guys. | |
| We're aware when we're him, the cream of the crop for them. | |
| So if she's willing to wait, it's because she feels that she can't find better. | |
| And maybe she can, but I'm willing to bet she can't. | |
| I don't think it's always that she can't find better. | |
| I think most of the time, us as women, we look at your potential. | |
| So most of the time, we're staying around because we see potential that you're going to get with us. | |
| You're going to get over yourselves, see what you really have, and then come back to us. | |
| So I think that's what it is more than we can't find anybody better. | |
| Because like if we was to go out on the street right now, we can find somebody. | |
| Like that's not something that's what I'm saying. | |
| Like we can find somebody. | |
| So it's not like saying we can't find better. | |
| It's just saying like we want you. | |
| We want that potential, but you're not giving us that potential. | |
| So we're trying to hold on as long as we can until you give us that potential. | |
| No, the potential is the reason that you stay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And if you see progress, if you see, so if your boyfriend says, look, babe, I want to do this. | |
| I want to accomplish this. | |
| I want to accomplish this. | |
| And you see him accomplishing breadcrumbs. | |
| You see him getting breadcrumbs to where he's trying to get. | |
| That's going to make you even feel better. | |
| That's going to make you feel more better, right? | |
| Because you're working towards it. | |
| Exactly. | |
| You see it. | |
| You're like, oh my God, he's doing it. | |
| What you're saying is she wants you. | |
| You're telling her, nah, it's okay. | |
| I'm going to go find my other options. | |
| If you want to stay, you can stay. | |
| So she's staying in the hopes that you're going to come back to her. | |
| That's her choice. | |
| Which is like messed up. | |
| But that's her choice, though. | |
| Q, isn't it the case that a lot of women would rather be with like a really quality guy and share him than be in a relationship with a guy that they don't respect and weak or whatever? | |
| I don't think anyone wants to share their man though. | |
| A lot of women. | |
| If the guy is high status enough, I think a lot of women would be prepared to share him. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Really? | |
| I mean, women who are loyal and committed to just you, though. | |
| It doesn't have to be financial. | |
| It can be a myriad of things. | |
| It doesn't have to be financial. | |
| It could be financial. | |
| It can be the way he looks, the way he makes her feel, the way she feels about him. | |
| It's different elements that go into it. | |
| It's not a one-size-fits-all type ordeal. | |
| It's multiple things. | |
| And if you observe a lot of men, if you observe a lot of men who are high status or high quality, they date multiple women. | |
| And as long as they're open and honest, some of those women are willing to accept that. | |
| Okay, can I just ask something? | |
| If you know that she knows all of this about you and she's still willing to be with you, wouldn't that make you question her intelligence? | |
| And then therefore, wouldn't that make her less attractive to you? | |
| Not necessarily because what you're missing is y'all are talking about my main and the reason that I acknowledge she's my main. | |
| So I'm well aware of the loyalty and commitment that she's shown, which is why I'm saying when I'm ready to settle down, she's at the forefront of my mind. | |
| But it's a matter of me being willing to settle down. | |
| I want to make sure I can take care of her. | |
| I want to make sure I can provide for her. | |
| I want to make sure I can provide for our family. | |
| And you don't want to cheat on her when you're married to her. | |
| Yeah, and that won't happen. | |
| Like, I've never cheated. | |
| I've never cheated. | |
| I've never committed infidelity. | |
| Yeah, but how are you going to reach that elite status of being able to provide for her and take care of her if you're spending all your money on all these side chicks? | |
| Who said I was spending all my money? | |
| I just said literally you don't got to spend money on side chicks. | |
| I literally just said I only invest resources in one girl. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, so she's the only girl. | |
| So that's what I said. | |
| When you asked about loyalty, I said there's sexual loyalty. | |
| And then with men, how we show loyalty, that's who we invest our time, energy, effort, resources, and finances into. | |
| So she gets way more than that. | |
| You don't see me out on dates with side chicks. | |
| I'll take her out anywhere. | |
| I'll go on vacation with her anywhere. | |
| And it sounds like you would prefer her not to sleep with other people, or that might even be a deal breaker for you. | |
| Is that right? | |
| Absolutely, because she can't do it. | |
| I know if she sleeps with another guy, I've lost her. | |
| So I actually don't disagree with you as far as the consent part of it, which is that if she consents to you being with other people and consents to her being monogamous to you, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. | |
| If it's a mutually consensual relationship between two people, you don't always have to have the same rules for each other, and that can go either way for anything, right? | |
| The only concern I would have, I guess, is is she staying with you out of insecurity? | |
| And if she doesn't have all her things together, because it sounds like at the beginning when you left, she was like, correct me if I'm wrong if I'm getting the details wrong, but it sounds like you left and then she's like, no, no, no, I want you back, and I'm willing to put up with you being with other people because I like you so much. | |
| So that gives me the vibe of someone who's a little bit insecure and maybe a little bit unsure of other partners that she can find. | |
| I'll restate. | |
| I reinforce her ability to get other men, though. | |
| Thank you, FTG. | |
| I reinforce her. | |
| I positively affirm her ability to get other men. | |
| So just to finish my thought, sorry. | |
| So to finish my thought, so I guess what I would be concerned about is if she is coming from a place where she doesn't feel that she is whole and does not need your help to reaffirm her, can she truly consent in that case? | |
| So, you know, that would be something to consider. | |
| You said, does she feel, does she feel, can you repeat that? | |
| Yeah, so in the situation where she is feeling like she needs other resources for validation, such as yourself or other things, in that case, can she truly consent to you being with other partners? | |
| Because is she fully aware of all the repercussions that that will have on her? | |
| I am not aware of how she feels in that regard. | |
| We haven't talked about it? | |
| I mean, we open and honest, but a lot of the things that I say, look, I said, at the end of the day, it's your decision. | |
| If you want to be with another guy, and I've communicated this to her, if I say you'll make a great wife, whether it's for me or another guy, if you don't want to wait on me, you don't have to wait on me. | |
| All of these things have been communicated. | |
| So I hear what you're saying because you're talking a lot about consent, but however, there's consent and then there's informed consent. | |
| What do you know where the consent goes? | |
| That's what I'm trying to figure out. | |
| What does that have to do? | |
| I try to avoid conversations about consent. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Massively I variety. | |
| I think she's just trying to say maybe your maybe your main chick was only saying that just because she's scared to lose you. | |
| Wait, but okay, he's a letter or no. | |
| Agreeing to the trial. | |
| I don't see how consent comes in. | |
| He was upfront with her. | |
| He's not like cheating. | |
| He's not going behind her. | |
| Yeah, cheating. | |
| I will say consent, meaning like she knows what's going on. | |
| She's willingly doing it. | |
| You told her, though, right? | |
| You told her. | |
| Yeah, like she knows what's going on. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sorry, what's the concern? | |
| So one thing that kind of happens in the ethical non-monogamy community, and maybe this doesn't apply to you, but there's kind of like the don't ask, don't tell. | |
| So maybe you know that your partner's out there doing other things, but you would rather not know the details. | |
| And in that case, you know, it's sort of a gray area because it's like, you know it's happening, but what is the reason that you don't want to know how many other partners they have? | |
| You know, even considerations about say sex and protection and things like that, those are all relevant things, right? | |
| So, if you don't have those things laid out on the table, you can sense sort of on the superficial level, but there's not deeper informed consent with all the information in front of you. | |
| So, that's kind of the only thing I bring up. | |
| The ethical, non-monogamous community. | |
| And that's you're in that community. | |
| I just found this out. | |
| I was unaware of this. | |
| I hope it's ethical. | |
| But, but, um, but ethical? | |
| Uh, yeah. | |
| Do you mean, like, okay, say for example, I'm talking about STI tests. | |
| Like, you know, if I've been with somebody else or whatever, I'll take an STI test to make sure, you know what I'm saying? | |
| I'm clean, she's good. | |
| Like, is that what you mean? | |
| So, that's part of it. | |
| So, the STI part is sort of the physical health part of it. | |
| There's also sort of the emotional repercussion part of it. | |
| And so, that's a little bit of a gray area because you can make the argument, well, we've sort of talked a little bit about, you know, babe, how would you feel if I slept with another person or had four other side checks? | |
| So, it's a little bit of a gray area as far as how much you've talked about and how much of that is enough, or like what is considered informed. | |
| But, sort of the opposite extreme of that is the don't ask, don't tell, where it's like, I sort of know this happening, but I don't want to know anything about it. | |
| And in that case, what I would ask is, you know, are we really kind of considering your own emotional health in being able to say yes to the situation? | |
| Are you suggesting that there's an assault occurring because there's not you're you're suggesting that there's not no assault, is that what she said? | |
| Huh? | |
| Yeah, no, but but he he's already stated that he's he's told her and he's on a podcast in front of thousands of people watching. | |
| I assume they've had a conversation that I mean, he's pretty open about it here on the podcast. | |
| I assume they've had a conversation that it's open on the other side. | |
| We have an understanding. | |
| I mean, you guys are trying to get an understanding that you don't have, but we have that understanding because we've had these conversations. | |
| So, it's not like I'm in an official relationship, these are women that I'm dating. | |
| So, I'm so I date multiple women. | |
| I'm not in a committed relationship to anybody. | |
| So, she knows that you'll dine out of the business. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| So, I'm dating other, I'm dating other women. | |
| And what I'm saying is, I take the most interest in her because I've been dating her the longest and we've developed the strongest relationship out of all the women that I've been dating. | |
| So, does that clarify a lot more? | |
| She's your fave. | |
| She's my favorite. | |
| You know, I hear, and like I said, I don't think anything you're doing is considered like crossing a boundary because clearly you've shared what you're doing with her. | |
| All I'm trying to express is that there are sort of gradations in how you can do it. | |
| And kind of the more you share and the more you guys can kind of work through the repercussions of what you're doing, the healthier relationship that can lead to, even if in the future you decide to close the relationship and become monogamous. | |
| So, from what I've seen, right? | |
| So, there's different gradations of how you can do it. | |
| As long as you two are both consenting, I don't see anything wrong. | |
| Oh, yeah, I'm transparent about everything. | |
| I try to be transparent about everything so that nobody's left to wonder, nobody's left to make assumptions in the negative to where they feel overwhelmed with anxiety or they feel depressed. | |
| Or, you know, I don't want to break anyone's heart. | |
| You know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. | |
| I'm open, transparent, honest about what I'm doing, what my intentions are. | |
| And at the end of the day, I just take it one day at a time, though. | |
| And that's really hope you pursue her. | |
| I hope it works out. | |
| But who here? | |
| It seems like a lot of the girls here object to the fact that he's open with his partners about this, but you object to the fact that he's seeing multiple women. | |
| That's what I mean. | |
| I wouldn't say I object. | |
| I just don't like the dynamic because on one end, I'm sorry. | |
| On one end, he's saying, like, I'm free to do whatever I want with these women, you know, and that's how it's going to be. | |
| But if you were to do it, it's just a no-go for me. | |
| But doesn't that come down to me understanding the differences between men and women? | |
| I do it because I can do it. | |
| As I said, if she does it, I've lost her. | |
| Is it just because she wouldn't even do something? | |
| Does that make it right? | |
| It's not about writing. | |
| It's not about writing. | |
| I'm getting a dad. | |
| Yo, it doesn't mean I should do it. | |
| I don't think you would necessarily. | |
| I think it would be like her saying, oh, you got all these other people on one side. | |
| I'm just doing it because you're doing it. | |
| But do you know her, though? | |
| No, I'm not saying I'm doing it. | |
| I'm not saying I know her. | |
| You don't know her. | |
| You don't know her. | |
| I know her. | |
| So I'm telling you, if she were to do it, based on how I know her, her behavioral tendencies, her attitude, the way that she thinks, how selective she is, how secretive she is with her body, if she were to do it, that means she really liked the guy. | |
| That means she liked that guy more than me. | |
| I lost her. | |
| So that's what I'm saying. | |
| So I'm like, $199. | |
| Q, what is your ratio of women? | |
| What is my ratio of women? | |
| How many women approach me versus how many women I actually accept? | |
| Oh, my ratio is similar to Raspby's. | |
| I get approached by a lot of women, and I turn down a lot of sex, honestly. | |
| I feel yeah. | |
| I turn down a lot of sex. | |
| My DM is full of thousands of women, and a lot of the times I just ignore it. | |
| Thousands? | |
| Yes. | |
| Stop fogging the women. | |
| I have a question about your question. | |
| So another way to look at it, couldn't you also say that she has the freedom to leave if he isn't giving her what you want, what she wants, and she could look for a guy who was more willing to be monogamous to her? | |
| Yeah, she could. | |
| She just didn't choose to. | |
| If she made her decision, she just told me that she was a little bit more. | |
| Did you guys live together? | |
| Do we live together? | |
| Not anymore. | |
| We did. | |
| Okay, so we did at one point. | |
| And when we did, I didn't even see other women. | |
| Well, the thing is for me. | |
| Even though we weren't committed in a relationship, I still didn't see other women out of respect for the fact that we lived together. | |
| Go ahead, Kelly. | |
| I'm just saying that I don't see the problem with you seeing other women just because of the fact that you are transparent with her, which is automatically it's in her hands. | |
| So if she chooses not to go see other people knowingly that you are dating other people, that's her choice to do. | |
| And it's like, like you said, like men and women are different. | |
| We have a man who's going to spend all of his time with the woman that he cares about the most. | |
| He's going to spend the most money because he works to make his money. | |
| So why would he go waste it on some girls that he doesn't see any potential in? | |
| So as long as you're not saying this is my girlfriend and there's no like, there's no title on it. | |
| There's nothing. | |
| I don't see anything wrong with that. | |
| That's exactly what it is. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, she could be his girlfriend even, but as long as she understands the situation. | |
| You know, they're dating. | |
| It's a part of dating, but they haven't, it's not like you ever said, will you be my girlfriend? | |
| Because once that question comes out, then that's a completely different story. | |
| Then you dating other women is cheating on her. | |
| Well, she could still be your girlfriend, though, but you still have this understanding. | |
| Right. | |
| But if she was my girlfriend, though, yeah, I cut off everybody. | |
| I cut off women instantly. | |
| Wait, so Alex, you were saying a little bit earlier that you think it's more so men that are operating like this, that are moving like this as compared to women. | |
| Yeah, the inability to commit, I do find it to be a lot of men. | |
| I mean, you are like that. | |
| Like, you talk about that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wait, how am I like? | |
| You are very anti-marriage. | |
| You don't want to commit either. | |
| So this is like a phenomenon I'm seeing growing. | |
| I think a lot of the men that watch this show, I think they would agree that is where they fall is they're very anti-commitment. | |
| And it's because they think that there are no women worth committing to. | |
| I understand that. | |
| I would like to just point out, make one clarification. | |
| I don't have any qualms with commitment. | |
| I have qualms with marriage. | |
| I could have a life partner that I am monogamous with and I spend 20, 30 years, however fucking long it is. | |
| Marriage, on the other hand, you need not have marriage in order to be committed to somebody. | |
| Got it. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I'm not anti-commitment. | |
| They're against the legal things that marriage entails. | |
| Yeah, what it locks you into. | |
| Yeah, it's just there's the financial ramifications of marriage. | |
| And like the thing with marriage, I don't object to it from a religious standpoint, but the thing is, is that if there's ever an issue in the marriage, for example, let's say you're both religious, your wife is not likely to go to God or to her church or, you know, to her priest, whatever it is, for like the religion does not preside over the marriage. | |
| The state presides over the marriage. | |
| So she's going to seek recourse through the court system. | |
| She's going to go to the state. | |
| And so once you have the state involved, then you have alimony, then you have all these negative repercussions. | |
| Then you have to, if you're the breadwinner as a guy, not only do you have to pay for your lawyer in the event of a divorce, you have to fund, you have to pay for her lawyer. | |
| So it gets very nasty. | |
| This is why you need to choose very carefully, though. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| But how many decisions do you make? | |
| And people change, though. | |
| People change over years. | |
| So no doubt that's an issue. | |
| But I mean, how many people, like when they get married, they're going into the marriage thinking, this is my person. | |
| I think so many people get married way too early. | |
| I think people get married. | |
| I got married 29 and my wife was 26. | |
| And we sort of planned it out in a way where we lived together for a certain amount of time and we spend all this time together. | |
| We traveled the world together. | |
| We did all these things. | |
| We know who we are. | |
| And we grew as a couple and we became the people that we both, basically, we cannot be separated. | |
| Like the fact that she and my son and my mate Morgan, who's with us on this trip, are out in the car at the moment or they're going around somewhere. | |
| Me being here, I'm just like, oh, I probably should be there. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Because we are almost joined at the hip. | |
| We do everything together. | |
| And the fact that marrying her was an important step for us, I think it obviously being involved with the government and signing the contract and being involved in that sense, it does scare a lot of people. | |
| But I think it is an important move for a lot of people to make. | |
| Just so you feel fucking good. | |
| It's such a good feeling. | |
| But weddings do cost a fuck ton of money, too. | |
| It's a great way to spend $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 on one day. | |
| It was awesome. | |
| You could just go to a courthouse though if you really just want to be married a nutshell. | |
| Yeah, but I'm not a redneck. | |
| I'm fancy. | |
| I'm just saying, like, you can get married at a moment. | |
| Like, yes, most people don't. | |
| Steve-O's sister could get married there, but not joke about Steve-O. | |
| And the voice. | |
| I think that going somewhere nice is very important. | |
| But you could say there's also something special about the contract of standing up in front of everyone and saying, hey, we're going to spend the rest of our lives. | |
| Because it's a culture thing. | |
| It's not so much about religion. | |
| It's a culture thing. | |
| That's what you do when you love this person more than anything else. | |
| You spend all your money and you get locked into a contract with them. | |
| It doesn't make sense when you think about it. | |
| Like, it doesn't ring. | |
| It doesn't. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Well, if everybody's so worried about the government repercussions, why not do it specifically through the church? | |
| Write out a contract for you and the person you're marrying through the church and do it that way and not legally get married at all. | |
| Oh, God. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, but I will. | |
| Can I say something to this point? | |
| Let me just say one thing and I'll let you come in. | |
| Well, I mean, I'm not like if you go to a church and you get married, I think the state would, even though you don't get like a marriage license, I'm pretty sure you're still deemed by the state to be married. | |
| And then once you get married, even if it's just through religion, then there's various legal triggers that occur. | |
| I mean, people often bring up prenup. | |
| Well, just get a prenup. | |
| But a prenup isn't, prenups get thrown out. | |
| It's not going to save you if the woman is motivated enough. | |
| You just tell the judge there was coercion or fraudulent inducement. | |
| So prenups get thrown out. | |
| I don't know if I think prenups can address your assets prior to marriage, but things that you earn in marriage, I think they've donated 100%. | |
| I'm going to have to tell attorney comment to talk about that. | |
| I'm going to take a $30K a month for 20 years and millions in assets from a divorce. | |
| If you have any real amount of money, it makes no sense to get married. | |
| Good point, Mr. Meeple. | |
| Yeah, I have a question. | |
| Isn't it there a thing that if you get married in other countries, it doesn't necessarily hold up? | |
| So you could still get married in another country, but then not actually have repercussions you're worried about. | |
| Not guess why Brody Jenner and like his like ex-wife, like apparently they weren't actually married because it was like in another country and they never got a marriage license here. | |
| So I think you could still have the commitment and celebration of getting married. | |
| And I think that you do it in certain countries, it doesn't hold up here. | |
| So you don't have to worry about that. | |
| Well, but then you of the sort of benefits that do exist, because I guess there are certain tax benefits or something if you get married, if there's a health crisis, there's certain like benefits there, I guess. | |
| But do you think it matters when you make the money too? | |
| Because if you make the money together, and if she's a stay-at-home mom and she looks after the kids and allows you to go out and work, and by allows you, I mean to look after the kids, lets you. | |
| Do you think that matters as well? | |
| Because once again, not to go back to my situation, but we made the money together. | |
| We bought the houses together. | |
| We did all that together. | |
| So if we were to divorce, then I'd be like, well, you just. | |
| Do you think that she still deserves it if she cheated on you? | |
| Nah, fuck that bitch. | |
| No, but here's the thing. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| Oh, hold on. | |
| I'll let this come in. | |
| Bender, the offender, donated $99. | |
| Christy, are you advocating for Passport Brothers? | |
| I don't think that's what she's advocating for. | |
| She's just saying you can get married in a different country and perhaps the U.S. would not, but you would be subject if you ever went back to that country. | |
| You would be subject to their marriage laws. | |
| But, and I would assume you need to go get divorced. | |
| Because you can't, if you're already married, you couldn't, you have to get divorced before you can remarry. | |
| In the U.S., your wife could, your wife could participate in a gangbang, divorce you, and still get paid alimony. | |
| Well, Steve Harvey's wife just cheated on him with like their personal chef and their butler or whatever, the driver. | |
| And now she wants like $400 million for their divorce. | |
| It just sounds like victim whining to me. | |
| Like, I think the guys, you guys have to step up and be confident that you're picking the right woman. | |
| Well, don't root the bottler. | |
| I should explain root. | |
| Root means sex in Australia. | |
| But you're removing... | |
| Hold on. | |
| But you're removing all accountability from women. | |
| not if so step up pick the right woman but if she ends up cheating cheating on like well is that still your fault for not like how people cheat harvey's situation i feel like it's different because he he she had like two different relationships before then and one of them was in jail so And Steve Harvey took in her pre, she already had kids before him. | |
| Okay. | |
| She loves him. | |
| See that he ignored. | |
| Like he took her in, took her kids, adopted her kids, but she was messing with him while she was still with somebody else. | |
| I think he went to jail. | |
| That's why she started messing with him. | |
| But she already had kids while they do who. | |
| If the guy cheats, does the girl get more money than her? | |
| What's that? | |
| If the guy cheats, should the woman get more than that? | |
| Money? | |
| I think so. | |
| I think so. | |
| I do know. | |
| If there's infidelity, that would not preclude you as the cheating partner from getting alimony. | |
| So then if the other way around was true, like the woman made more money in the relationship, then you would agree for the same sort of terms where if the man were to cheat, the man should not get any money? | |
| Well, okay, I can talk about what should, like what ought to be, what should be. | |
| It's not a perfect world, like what's most ethical. | |
| Oh, in my perfect world. | |
| Working in the world. | |
| If there's infidelity, then I don't think that'd be a fair reason to not be subject to alimony. | |
| Whether you're the man or the woman. | |
| I think that makes sense. | |
| But the reality is, is that, I mean, I think it's something like 97% of alimony payments go from men to women. | |
| So, I mean, you know. | |
| I think everyone should get a prenup, and if you cheat, you should not get a payout. | |
| Both ways. | |
| Pretty straightforward. | |
| Sure, but I mean, and also, well, but okay, to bring it back to Alex, just point of clarification, because you mentioned commitment. | |
| I am perfectly prepared to have a long-term or lifelong monogamous relationship with a woman. | |
| What I'm not prepared to do is to needlessly involve the state with my love life. | |
| I don't want to allow the state to be judge, jury, and executioner over my hard-earned resources and money in the event of a divorce. | |
| So, like, the U.S. court system has very strong bias against men. | |
| And if there were changes made to the court system to better protect men from financial ruin in the event of divorce, then I might be a bit more obliged to get married. | |
| But until then, I don't sign contracts that don't benefit me. | |
| What would they need to change? | |
| To benefit or to at least each of the playing forces. | |
| So, okay, there's a couple things. | |
| I think, one, there needs to be like just a base cap on child support. | |
| So, doesn't matter, like, if whatever the bare minimum it takes to raise a kid, you can adjust for cost of living of that city or whatever. | |
| There's no world where if you choose to divorce someone and they're a high earner, that you should be getting, you no longer get the benefit of the lifestyle that that person brings. | |
| So, you get bare minimum child support. | |
| There should be a cap on child support. | |
| You should not be getting $400,000 a month in child support when it comes to alimony. | |
| Same thing. | |
| There are certainly good arguments for alimony. | |
| For example, if the woman, she chooses to disregard pursuing a career to be married to you and to have kids, it makes sense under those circumstances that as the guy, you should support your ex-wife. | |
| However, there ought to be a cap to alimony. | |
| And if she's involved with another guy, she gets remarried, then alimony should cease. | |
| If she's able to find a new guy to support her, she's living with a new guy, then alimony should cease. | |
| There should be a cap on it. | |
| It shouldn't be based on your income. | |
| If you're making 200, you know, like you hear these, like Dr. Dre, you hear all these guys who get absolutely wrecked in court because they have to pay like insane amount of alimony. | |
| If you choose to leave your partner, if you choose to initiate a divorce, you should get like a, there should be a cap. | |
| I think the problem with the cap, though, is if you live in that person's house or you own a couple of houses or whatever the situation is, particularly in relationships where there's a lot of money involved, if you live in a house that's still on a mortgage, you're going to need that exorbitant amount of money to pay it off. | |
| So it has to be a case-by-case thing. | |
| Well, if the primary breadwinner keeps the house, then I don't know, they go to an apartment. | |
| Divorcee. | |
| I guess it depends on how bad the divorce ends. | |
| Because some divorces, you just realize, I don't love you anymore. | |
| Or it's a horrible situation. | |
| Is that a good reason? | |
| Not being in love with somebody a good reason to get a divorce? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, I absolutely think so. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| And in fact, I think it's inevitable that there will be times in a marriage where you're not in love with the other person, but that is the purpose of marriage. | |
| So that you can't just walk out like that. | |
| That commitment is what's supposed to drive you. | |
| So that even in the lulls, even in the low points, you're still committed to that person. | |
| Well, yeah, what are the vows? | |
| Till death do us part in sickness and in health. | |
| It says nothing about, I'm bored. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm feeling a little bored. | |
| I guess I can leave. | |
| And I just, and I just, I just seen the research today. | |
| Some additional research came out that said 54 with infidelity, 54% of women cheat because they're unhappy. | |
| And I just want to talk, point on that. | |
| That unhappiness that leads to women cheating and then essentially women cheat to get out of relationships. | |
| That just speaks to how unstable that marriages typically are and how they operate on the whim of a woman's emotions because women initiate divorce at a higher rate than men do. | |
| So that commitment that's made for sickness and in health till death do us part, that commitment is supposed to be honored. | |
| So when a woman feels that she doesn't love her husband anymore or she's bored or whatever the case may be, those principles are supposed to stand. | |
| Those pillars of those principles are supposed to stand. | |
| She's supposed to, she's supposed to fight through that. | |
| And that's when I come back to your point when you said most people get married too young or they don't know each other. | |
| You described how you and your wife developed your relationship. | |
| You said that you guys knew each other. | |
| You guys learned each other. | |
| A lot of people don't know how to properly vet. | |
| When they jump into relationships in the infatuation stage, they're not prepared for, oh, we're going to have these disagreements. | |
| Here's where our personalities don't align. | |
| Here's where our values don't align. | |
| And the minute those things rise to the surface, they want out. | |
| And typically it's the woman first because the woman is the one who gets fed up first. | |
| She's the one who gets irritated first. | |
| She's the one who gets annoyed first. | |
| And she wants out. | |
| Typically, men don't expect that because men, we go cry in the car, we sit, we decompress, we go in our man cave or whatever the case may be. | |
| And then we come back, we're feeling better, let's have sex, let's make up. | |
| But once that woman starts to feel bored or unhappy, the relationship is now in jeopardy. | |
| And that's the issue with men picking better women. | |
| We do have to pick better women. | |
| We have to pick women that we know are going to hold us down. | |
| Just like I said, going back to my situation, I've seen what she can stand by me through. | |
| She stands by me through absolutely the worst of things that she doesn't agree with because she loves me and she sees who I am and what I will become. | |
| So I can honor that. | |
| So now I know I feel safe and secure that if I commit to this woman, I know this woman is going to be here even when she can't stand me, even when she doesn't love me. | |
| And that's why I feel that in the future I can marry her. | |
| I have a question for the whole table that's semi-related to commitment. | |
| And who here has been in a couple different relationships? | |
| I mean, I assume probably everybody here. | |
| I want to go around the table starting with you, Christy. | |
| More often than not, who, and this is for everybody, more often than not, who is the one who is having to end the relationship? | |
| And this can apply also not just towards like for your long-term relationships, but also even if you've gone on one date with a guy, two dates with a guy, three dates with a guy, more often than not, is it you that is saying, I don't want to see you anymore, I want to break up, or is it the guy saying that? | |
| If you had to attribute maybe a percentage to it or more, or just more often than not, should we do it? | |
| Is it the guy or the girl? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| We'll come to that later. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| Okay, so out of my actual relationships that I like count, because you know how you have like, you've dated exes and then you have like girlfriend, boyfriend kind of exes. | |
| So, like, actual real relationships, it's usually me because I come to the conclusion that he's not my soulmate, and I'm in a relationship to get married. | |
| And there's no point of wasting either of our times if I know that it's not going to get to marriage. | |
| And I don't want to marry the wrong person. | |
| I don't want to settle when it comes to that because I don't want to get divorced. | |
| I'm married once I'm married. | |
| I'm in it for the long haul. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't want to put my kids through divorce. | |
| So, usually, it's you and me. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But with that being said, when it comes to just guys that I've like casually dated to see like think it might go somewhere. | |
| Maybe you're talking someone for a couple months thinks it's going to go somewhere. | |
| Doesn't officially go somewhere. | |
| It's usually the guy that. | |
| Okay, but in the longer term. | |
| Like it makes it fade out. | |
| In your longer-term situations or relationships. | |
| I'm ending it because I really want to get married for the long haul and I would never, I don't want to waste either of our time if I don't see that happening. | |
| What about you? | |
| So like her, like I date to marry. | |
| So if I can't see myself with you, like I'm not even gonna fake it. | |
| Like I'm gonna tell you straight up, like I don't want this. | |
| Okay, so how many boyfriends have you had? | |
| Like actual boyfriends, two. | |
| Two. | |
| What about like medium-term? | |
| Maybe they didn't end up being a boyfriend, but you were dating for three months, six months. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| Like, how would I break up with them? | |
| No, just like, are you ending it or are they ending it more often? | |
| Oh, no, I'm ending it. | |
| FTG thing for the 50 gifted memberships. | |
| Would you say 100% of the time you've ended it and ended it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I would say it's been a pretty even split. | |
| 50-50? | |
| Okay. | |
| I would say even just in general, not just me, but women just are the ones to end things. | |
| Loose all the energy, donated $99. | |
| LPE, let's go. | |
| Help a brother out. | |
| Get Walmart Kevin Hart a boost a seat so he can see over the table. | |
| He likes to be stretched out and has 1,000 decimeters. | |
| It's not fair. | |
| I'm in the different 204s. | |
| First, pause and second, stop the damn cap. | |
| Also, of blondie sound like she eats 10 packs a day of cigarettes? | |
| You eat 10 packs of cigarettes a day. | |
| First of all, I believe Q because Q He's a handsome guy. | |
| Like, don't, I'm, I'm straight. | |
| Don't worry. | |
| I'd fuck it up. | |
| Q's a handsome. | |
| He's a handsome dude. | |
| He's fucking ripped. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I'm average-looking, though. | |
| Dude, dude, dude. | |
| I tell everybody I'm an average-looking guy. | |
| Also, the fucking. | |
| It's not fair because the it's the angles. | |
| No, it's the fucking angle because I'm closer. | |
| Like, I'm closer to this camera, and I'm in, I'm in the Herman Miller, and he's in one of our regular chairs. | |
| And how tall are you, dude? | |
| I'm six eight. | |
| He's six, eight. | |
| So he's just towering. | |
| Should we swap saints? | |
| I'll just crunch down. | |
| Guys, be not, come on. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| So go ahead. | |
| Go ahead, Kelly. | |
| What were you talking about? | |
| Like, breaking up. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| No, yeah. | |
| Men don't really like leave that much. | |
| Like, men don't like leaving because if you have like a woman that is doing whatever you need to, like, there's no point of leaving her. | |
| It's like, you're just going to go and go with other women. | |
| You're going to do whatever you need to do. | |
| You're going to hope she doesn't find out. | |
| But they're not going to leave. | |
| So at the end of the day, like a woman is going to end it. | |
| For the one other relationship that I've had, like, I've never casually dated. | |
| Like, like they said, I've only ever dated to Mary, and I did end it because he was just not fully invested in me. | |
| I was fully invested in him. | |
| He was just lacking. | |
| He cared more about his friends and me and just ends for a bunch of reasons. | |
| What about something, your more short-term situations? | |
| Was it you saying, don't want to see you anymore? | |
| No. | |
| Every other short-term situation, the guys left me. | |
| Or was it a mutual ghost? | |
| No, it wasn't a mutual ghost. | |
| Oh, so you were pursuing it? | |
| I was just ghosted. | |
| Oh, shit, I was like, every single time. | |
| Rip, R.I.P.'s in the chat for Madison. | |
| Alex, what about you? | |
| Majority of the time, the guy is breaking up with me or ghosting me. | |
| Oh, that's not okay. | |
| Is it not? | |
| No, don't say it bye. | |
| Can I give context? | |
| Sure, sure, sure. | |
| All right, the context is, is that I am in, and this is what may be to my detriment, but right out the gate, I always say I'm dating for marriage. | |
| First date, you'd say that? | |
| Yes. | |
| Alumbi. | |
| First date I say that, and every single time the relationship has ended, and I'm thinking, I would say since 23 years old, I've probably had five serious relationships. | |
| Every single one, it ends because they're not on my timeline. | |
| They say similar things to what Q says. | |
| What's the time? | |
| They're not ready for marriage. | |
| They're not in a time in their life where they're ready for marriage and things like that. | |
| So that's why they're ending things because they know that that's my what I'm looking for. | |
| But so you're you're in a relationship with these guys. | |
| You're kind of starting to have serious conversations about the future and then they end it or because there's more than one way. | |
| There's like you can ask for a breakup. | |
| Like there's more than one way to ask for something, you know? | |
| No, I think they're ending it because they're like, yeah, I can't give you what you want. | |
| Like I know that you don't want to date. | |
| I don't want to be in a serious relationship dating somebody for probably now that I'm 30 longer than a year before getting engaged. | |
| So if we're dating for a year or so, at that point I'm wanting him to know if he could marry me or not. | |
| Okay. | |
| Isaac, what about you? | |
| More often than not of your anything, whether it's short-term, medium-term, long-term, more often than not, were you ending things or was the girl ending things? | |
| I think it would be probably if I probably had like four proper girlfriends before I met my wife. | |
| But we met, I was 21, she was 90. | |
| So I think it was probably even, you know, 50-50. | |
| But I think dudes just don't end it because if dudes are getting, get in the business, why would you? | |
| Exactly. | |
| Like if you get your ball strained, like what are you doing? | |
| Like if you're eating, if you get and take out every dollar. | |
| There's more to relationships than that, right? | |
| But it's like for you, it's like, why would you leave that? | |
| Why would you leave your favorite girl? | |
| Like, you know, like you're not going to do that, especially not for one of the side chicks. | |
| Also, as you said, with the marriage thing, if you don't want to scare guys away, maybe it's the timing is when you bring out marriage. | |
| Well, and that's the thing. | |
| But I'm not like, so where's this going on the first date? | |
| I'm not saying that, but I'm just like, hey, you know, after we've been there for a while and the small talk and everything, that's when I'm like, you know, so what are you looking for? | |
| It's a little scary for guys on the first date when a woman brings that up. | |
| And we don't. | |
| Christio donated $100. | |
| I think it's nice that Steve-O finally transitioned to a woman. | |
| Welcome, Christy. | |
| You look like someone microwaved to Barbie. | |
| Just kidding, God. | |
| I am tired of seeing all these beautiful women on the whatever podcast. | |
| Thanks for changing things up, Christy. | |
| Do you have a response to that? | |
| Okay, so I think it ended as a compliment. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So thank you. | |
| Steve O, Christy O. | |
| I mean, the username is cool. | |
| Okay. | |
| Thanks. | |
| Would you do a show with Steve-O if we got him? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Couldn't even speak. | |
| All right. | |
| Q, you were in the middle of saying something, I think. | |
| No, I was just responding to what you said. | |
| Alex was talking about her marriage or her timing thing. | |
| Yeah, I mean, I think I'm just saying it here directly, but like in a real life scenario, I'm not being super aggressive about it. | |
| But I do on a first date, I think it's fair to just be like, so, you know, what are you looking for? | |
| Are you looking for something casual? | |
| Are you here because you're just looking for a long-term relationship? | |
| Are you dating for marriage? | |
| It's some, it's, you know, it goes like that basis. | |
| So, you have an issue with the go-with-the-flow mentality. | |
| I, yes, I do. | |
| But that's how men operate, though. | |
| Well, that I'm, I want someone that's more grown than that. | |
| So, you're just wanting to just. | |
| I think it's immature. | |
| But I think a lot of grown men do like to just date for a while before they marry. | |
| Especially we're just talking about marriage. | |
| But a year to two years, I think if you're at a certain age, like if you're a guy that is dating for marriage, you should know. | |
| There should be qualities that you get to know that you're like, okay, I could see this person being my wife or not. | |
| How long do you want to date somebody before you get married? | |
| That's how women operate. | |
| Probably, I think men operate very differently from that. | |
| Between a year and two years. | |
| So, like, a year in, like, you need 10. | |
| No, you don't know. | |
| I'm 30. | |
| Yeah, but isn't that better than divorcing in 10 years? | |
| Date for 10 years. | |
| Date for 10 years. | |
| No, I will not have to have kids. | |
| Five years. | |
| Yeah, that's still putting you in a danger zone for like having kids and stuff. | |
| I mean, if I was 23, yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think that's different. | |
| When you were 23, like in the, like, like in your 20s, like, what, were you dating? | |
| Like, yes, but I think I always. | |
| Why didn't you feel like you wanted to get so? | |
| All the guys that you dated were just no, several of them. | |
| Okay, well, I say several, but I've had five serious relationships in my 20s, and four of them, I think I would have been willing potentially to talk marriage and maybe see. | |
| If, but none of them were wanting that because all of them. | |
| You're saying it happens like that flip to where you're sort of like dating to meet people and dating for marriage. | |
| That happens later for guys. | |
| It sounds like that's what you've experienced too. | |
| Like for generalizing here, obviously, but for females, that happens kind of like mid-20s, maybe. | |
| For some people, it's later. | |
| But for most guys, I hear it's like, oh, I was in my early to mid-30s, and then I was like, oh, I'm looking for a wife in the middle of the day. | |
| Well, and that's what happened. | |
| I think a lot of them, it was like the girl after me that they dated. | |
| That's who they end up getting engaged to. | |
| It's like they're just, our timing is just slightly off where I'm ready and they're not. | |
| Let me just finish this off cue. | |
| More often than not, who was ending things? | |
| Was it the girl or the prior to age 24? | |
| It was the girl ending things first. | |
| After that, it's been me. | |
| I mean, I've only been in two relationships after 24, but I ended both of those. | |
| And you say after 24, was that just because circumstance, like happenstance, or did you level up at least? | |
| It had to do with leveling up, becoming more mature, being aware of women and how they behave. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I'd say for me, more often than not in relationships, I found it's women that not all of my relationships, but women tend to, maybe it's like 60-40 tend to end them more so. | |
| Maybe even 70-30. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I got to do the math. | |
| I got to do the ratio math. | |
| Do you think that's because dudes are just like, girls? | |
| Sorry, I'm just like, I can find a better dude than this. | |
| Well, I think women definitely have a lot more options. | |
| A thousand percent. | |
| Way more options. | |
| Gaws don't care. | |
| They will have sex with anything. | |
| That's literally completely, absolutely true. | |
| Any dude. | |
| But they don't care. | |
| The reason I ask this, though, is Alex, you're talking about men being afraid of commitment. | |
| And I mean, the thing is, is that, but it's interesting to me that even though commitment is the thing that women really, really want, when they get it, they seem to overwhelmingly end relationships and they overwhelmingly initiate divorce. | |
| I think it's 80% of divorces are initiated by women. | |
| So it's not that. | |
| Yeah, I think that's part of culture feeding into women telling us like it's always greener on the other side. | |
| You know, you have to look outside of the home to find fulfillment. | |
| Like, you know, raising kids, being a stay-at-home mom, you're going to be so unhappy. | |
| And they tell us that and it seeds doubt in us. | |
| And then we look for that elsewhere. | |
| And I think that contributes to women being the ones to file for divorce more. | |
| Yeah, but I mean, couldn't you say that actually men are more commitment-minded? | |
| Because just going off of the marriage statistics. | |
| Potentially in the past, I just, I think tithes are turning, because I think feminism really ruined women in that perspective. | |
| So then obviously men were like, uh, well, I don't want that. | |
| So then they went the other direction. | |
| Now you're seeing a lot more younger, conservative women that are like, no, wait, like I'm being left in the dust now. | |
| Like I do want to get married and have a committed relationship. | |
| And those guys are like, I'm not buying it. | |
| But I do, I think it's interesting because one, you said men fearing commitment. | |
| And then on the other hand, you said after they got done with you, they ended up committing to the next woman. | |
| Because then it's been a couple years and by that point, they're in their late 20s. | |
| And I think then they're ready. | |
| So fearing commitment is merely a perception. | |
| Do you think that it's valid to assume that they aren't ready? | |
| And when you, on a first date, if you say, I'm dating to marry, as I said, men don't approach dating like that because we want to know who we're getting with. | |
| We just had a conversation about the woman you get with, that's probably the most, you know, important choice you make in your life as a man. | |
| So if you come to me, oh, I'm dating to marry, then I'm like, this woman might pressure me. | |
| This woman might try to get me to speed up my process. | |
| This woman is going to make me feel uncomfortable. | |
| So if you make me feel uncomfortable, then naturally I'm going to divert away. | |
| So do you think that's a possibility? | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| You know, because you just put it on the men fear commitment. | |
| You made it, you put the accountability on the men as opposed to doing some introspective assessment and seeing if there's anything you could work on in your approach to dating and what your expectations are. | |
| Potentially. | |
| I mean, I roast myself all the time for that. | |
| Is that it could be that I am, maybe I should, you know, just step back and just be like, go with the fruit, see where it goes and not say anything. | |
| So I mean, that's what I'm saying. | |
| You can always say, I really like you. | |
| I really like you. | |
| You know, the closer we grow, the more we develop, I would like something serious. | |
| You could approach it in that way as opposed to this is what I want. | |
| And evolutionarily, it's understandable because you have a biological clock. | |
| So if you want to have kids and you want to start a family, then of course you're going to push for marriage sooner than a man would push for marriage because a man has ample time. | |
| And it's not. | |
| Let me just be clear on this. | |
| It's not every guy I go on a date with or something. | |
| I mean, sometimes I go on a date and I know within 30 seconds I am not interested in this person. | |
| So it's not like every guy I'm saying that. | |
| It's if I've, if I've been with someone or talked to them and I really like them, you know what I mean? | |
| Then we're having those conversations. | |
| You get infatuated? | |
| You want him to be daddy? | |
| No, I actually, I feel like I feel like I don't like that many people. | |
| Like when it's few and far between, when I find somebody that I really like, I'm always very taken aback by it. | |
| That makes it worse. | |
| That makes it worse. | |
| For sure, probably does. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| So you get infatuated. | |
| You meet a guy and you're like, this guy is unusual. | |
| He makes me feel a way that most guys don't make me feel. | |
| So he must be the one because he's the one making me feel like other men do. | |
| I think that's fair. | |
| I think that's fair. | |
| Like, I don't think like your view on marriage is wrong. | |
| I just think like your timing, because like I'm 22. | |
| Me and my guy, we've been together for like three years. | |
| We've talked about potentially marrying each other, but it's not like that big deal where it's like, oh, you have to marry me or it's just not going anywhere. | |
| Like I just think right now we know. | |
| But how much time, how much of your time would you let a guy waste before asking that? | |
| I wouldn't worry about how long it'll take him to marry me as long as I know like he wants to marry me. | |
| Like if he was to tell me right now, I would marry you, that's all I need to hear. | |
| So he's telling his girl that. | |
| I don't think a guy is necessarily like wasting your time either by making the weight because I think those conversations often scare men away. | |
| He's probably more than a moment. | |
| A lot of women, younger women end up dating older men, I think, because of that commitment issue that we're talking about. | |
| But yet, younger women get a lot of flack for dating older men at the same time because they're viewed as gold diggers and things like that. | |
| So, is it also fair to say then that it's understandable that younger women are dating older men because at that point, men have reached a certain maturity level? | |
| Absolutely, yeah. | |
| I definitely had no qualms with that. | |
| I mean, I say all the time: if a guy can provide what you want in order to provide a stable environment that you can raise kids, then yeah, go for that guy. | |
| That means that guy is 20 years older than you because you don't want to wait on the guy with potential, you don't want to wait to see if he fulfills that potential, then absolutely jump on the opportunity to secure whatever it is that you're trying to secure for your future. | |
| Can I say something? | |
| I do, I do have to move things along here a little bit. | |
| Um, yo, chat, uh, there were some adjustments made to the audio which might not have been the right call. | |
| Uh, chat, has the audio just been absolutely fucked, like way too low on some people, too hot. | |
| Like, has it just been totally fucked this entire time, guys? | |
| Um, Nick, can you pull up Twitch? | |
| It's good now, but was it bad before? | |
| Like, just totally unlevel. | |
| Okay, oh, everyone's saying it's been fine. | |
| Okay, that's fine. | |
| Oh, uh, so guys, go to twitch.tv/slash/whatever, drop us a follow in a prime sub. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| We have Zeton thing for the prime, Pubtest, thing for the tier one, monkey thing for the prime, hell shock thing for the prime, Carloo thing for the prime, rockin' thing for the prime, I body drop thing for the prime. | |
| I'll get the fit check here in just a sec, guys. | |
| Let me do a couple chats. | |
| We have Puffy Vegas. | |
| Hey, thank you, man. | |
| Good to see you in the chat. | |
| Puffy Vegas, I will rate all girls rate with the blonde, all seven. | |
| Okay, thank you, Puffy. | |
| I have 13 side girls, Puffy Vegas. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Puffy Vegas, I've never met. | |
| I've never met a woman in my entire life. | |
| And I'm what? | |
| And I'm known for thousands. | |
| I've never met a woman that was, he's never met a woman that was faithful. | |
| We have infinite singularity here. | |
| Hey, thank you, man. | |
| Major premise: child rearing thrives in consistent settings. | |
| Minor premise: EM inherently presents more flux than monogamy. | |
| Conclusion, hence, EM could pose challenges to optimal child rearing. | |
| Okay, I actually agree with that. | |
| Monogamy's when it comes to having kids. | |
| I'd say probably monogamy is probably the best way to go. | |
| Infinite singularity, girl in blue. | |
| So by who's in blue? | |
| Alex. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| All right. | |
| I guess I can't see tonight. | |
| So by simply choosing right, love's all sunshine, genius all these years. | |
| And here I was thinking relationships took effort. | |
| Guess I've overlooked my crystal ball. | |
| Who knew predicting the future was so basic? | |
| That is. | |
| Do you have a response to that? | |
| Well, first of all, that is so stupid. | |
| That's exactly what I'm saying: is that love isn't all sunshine. | |
| It's super, super tough. | |
| But if you're marrying somebody, you have the same worldview, you know, all the big key things that typically contribute to problems in a relationship. | |
| If you pick the right person that you mesh well with that stuff, then all of those hardships are going to come a lot easier. | |
| Okay. | |
| We have Ryan the Eating Warrior. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Women after 30 want marriage fast because they got nothing to lose and everything to gain LMFAO. | |
| Correct. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| That's correct. | |
| I mean, like, that's what I'm saying. | |
| Like, we do have, I think, one huge problem is that we have been told as women that we basically don't have a biological clock, that we don't have a timeline. | |
| Like, pursue your career first in your 20s and your 30s. | |
| Worry about marriage in your 40s. | |
| And that's absolutely a lie. | |
| I don't think that's what is taught nowadays. | |
| I mean, like, it's more common nowadays, but that's not the traditional way of how. | |
| You don't think that we're told, like, put career first, worry about faith? | |
| Traditional ways to get married as soon as like, isn't it? | |
| Wouldn't you say, Kelly, that the traditional way is kind of in the rear view? | |
| Well, you just say, because you're against marriage. | |
| No, we're saying like traditionally getting married first, not putting career first. | |
| Like, I think my, I mean, I'm a young millennial growing up, like, it was always like girl boss culture, put your career first, family leader. | |
| Yeah, even now, like, the kids growing up right now, they're not worried about boyfriends and marriage, and they're worried about where's my next check coming from the bag, what's gonna help me live my successful life. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Like, they're not thinking about the long run. | |
| They're thinking about house and kids on the hill somewhere with a picture of the city. | |
| I do get what you're saying, though, Kelly. | |
| Like, just like the initial traditional way is to get married first. | |
| Like, I don't, I'm not saying that there's a problem. | |
| I'm just saying, like, once, like, we do have a biological clock as women. | |
| We're at a certain age. | |
| Like, once we're 30, then our options get lower. | |
| It's harder for us to find. | |
| As women get older, it's harder to find, you know, someone because men now at 30, they're looking at the women who are still in their 20s and they want those. | |
| And those women are looking to get married. | |
| So I think that getting married later on in life is it wouldn't be like personally my preference. | |
| But Kelly, wouldn't you say that? | |
| But then I think we're agreeing. | |
| Wouldn't you say that with feminism and mainstream culture of like, hey, go be a girl boss, get your bag, get your money. | |
| Yeah, I know that's thinking about marriage right now. | |
| Like the younger generation. | |
| Yeah, I would agree with Alex that I do think, generally speaking, there's we are teaching women focus on your career, disregard relationships, get your career built up, and then in your 30s, your magical husband will appear. | |
| The traditional way is now looked frowned upon when it really should be being embraced. | |
| Like, I think feminism completely ruined so many things. | |
| Because now, like Kelly said, it just works to the detriment of women. | |
| Like, you get to that age 30, and then there's no one there for you. | |
| We got a bunch of people wanting the fit check for the gifted subs. | |
| So if we can have everybody stand up, we're going to do fit check. | |
| If y'all want to stand up and show them, I guess, the outfit, I guess. | |
| I wasn't taught I'd be standing up. | |
| You might have to stand up. | |
| I wore shorts. | |
| Even better. | |
| All right, we got the fit check over here. | |
| I'll just stay seated to control this over here. | |
| Okay, is that some. | |
| What do you got, Madison? | |
| What are you wearing? | |
| Skims. | |
| Is that it's a dress? | |
| Who is it? | |
| Kardashian or Kardashian? | |
| Okay. | |
| Actually, just Kardashian. | |
| All right, we got. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Okay, can't even see those guys. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's the fit check. | |
| All right. | |
| There you guys. | |
| I think I got to get rid of the fit check. | |
| It's so ridiculous. | |
| I just checked last time because I liked my outfit. | |
| Yeah, I removed the fit check option. | |
| I think I'm just going to get rid of it. | |
| Chat, here. | |
| Wait, let me ask the chat. | |
| One in the chat. | |
| Guys, is the fit check. | |
| What's the point? | |
| What is the point of the check? | |
| Yeah, what is the point of that? | |
| It's a little objectifying anything. | |
| I think, well, hold on. | |
| The gentleman here also stood up besides me. | |
| I mean, but most of your cast is girls, so it's not really for the guys. | |
| One in the chat to keep the fit check, two in the chat to get rid of it. | |
| One in the chat to keep it, two in the chat, get rid of it. | |
| I really think it would have been better last time. | |
| With Adam and Lena. | |
| Oh, yeah, yeah, so much better. | |
| And like, why was Isabella wearing a straw out of the water? | |
| I was jumping. | |
| Like, I was just confused at a lot of people's outfits. | |
| So, yeah, it would have been way better last time. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think I. What's the chat saying? | |
| Mostly black people. | |
| I guess they like it. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's kind of cringe, but whatever. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| So we, let's see, what did we have to? | |
| Oh, we have Puffy here. | |
| I've never met a woman that was faithful. | |
| Puffy's doing a top. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| The women that he's dating? | |
| I guess so. | |
| I guess so. | |
| How many women have he been with? | |
| He says he's got 12 side chicks right now, which I... | |
| Thirteen. | |
| I... | |
| Oh, was it 13? | |
| I'm calling, I'm calling bullshit. | |
| One of them is loyal to him. | |
| I'm calling him. | |
| I think he has seven, but 13, Puffy, come on. | |
| Let's be let's be real. | |
| What's his ratio? | |
| Speaking of ratio, speaking of ratio here, let's see. | |
| So, okay, I'm trying to think where I wanted to pick up on this. | |
| So, some of you were so kind as to provide some pre-show answers to a couple questions. | |
| So, Christy, I think the big thing that we argued on last show is: so, you do OF, you have adult content, and you described yourself as conservative and traditional. | |
| I think the big sticking point last show was that we rejected your title of being considered traditional. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, but, but, so you consider yourself traditional, but you post very revealing photos online and you have an OnlyFans. | |
| So, I guess my question, again, is: how do you continue to reconcile your basically doing porn and also being traditional? | |
| So, I'm a monogamous, and like, I think that just because I have an OnlyFans, people think I'm like having sex with all these people. | |
| Like, I'm literally only having sex with my boyfriend. | |
| I would never have sex, let my boyfriend have sex with someone, or I have sex with someone if I'm in a relationship. | |
| I'm not into that. | |
| I want to raise my family very traditionally. | |
| I believe that the man is the leader of the household and the woman should be the caretaker. | |
| Like, I'm going to raise a very traditional family, you know. | |
| Just because I have OnlyFans with my boyfriend, now ex-boyfriend, that's not going to change how I raise my children or how our household is. | |
| Like, we're going to have a traditional household. | |
| I don't think it's the monogamy that's in question. | |
| It's the fact that you have an OnlyFans. | |
| That's what's in question. | |
| Here's the definition of conservative: a person favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas. | |
| Also, averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values. | |
| Now, when I think of traditional values, I don't typically think that like doing adult content and OnlyFans falls in the lane of doing of tradition, of being traditional. | |
| I think people are just mad because I don't fit into a box and they wanted to like fit me into some sort of box. | |
| Like, my conservative, traditional values, I've always had them, and then I got into OnlyFans later, but like, I'm not like, I had like porn stars on the left of me saying how they like have orgies and all this stuff. | |
| Like, I don't do stuff like that, so there's like a new day and age. | |
| Like, OnlyFans, like, it's not like there's so many different Christy, there's photos and videos of you online of you having sex with that's not traditional. | |
| Public identity is not very traditional. | |
| I'm going to raise my children. | |
| But would you be mad if your daughter was doing OnlyFans? | |
| I'm going to raise my kids to be entrepreneurs, and I actually don't want my kids to go to college because they're getting indoctrinated. | |
| So, whatever they want to do as an entrepreneur, you're going to have to do it. | |
| Is it entrepreneurial to jam yourself on OnlyFans? | |
| With my boyfriend. | |
| So, like, what is that? | |
| But is that entrepreneurial? | |
| Like, would Elon Musk look at that and go, wow. | |
| Okay, but did your parents, did your parents raise you as an entrepreneur to make an OnlyFans? | |
| Well, OnlyFans. | |
| I have, okay, I looked, I didn't subscribe to your OnlyFans because I don't do that. | |
| I'm very sure, but I did look at the landing page and it says, warning, don't stay here too long or your cock will explode. | |
| Yeah, it does. | |
| That's because you hide it. | |
| When your cock explodes, when you hang around the two. | |
| That doesn't strike me. | |
| By the way, forgive my French, it doesn't strike me as particularly conservative or traditional. | |
| I have the same description on my comedy website when I sell tickets. | |
| Don't come to the show because your cock will explode. | |
| That would actually make me want to come even. | |
| You'll come. | |
| No pun intended. | |
| No, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No pun. | |
| No pun intended. | |
| We'll all come. | |
| It's an orgy. | |
| So I think, okay, here's the distinction that I think needs to be made. | |
| You're saying that you can be conservative and do OnlyFans. | |
| But you love Trump and all these different things, and that's how you vote. | |
| You vote red. | |
| I would argue that you're a Republican, but not conservative. | |
| And there's a huge difference. | |
| I think with being conservative, you're conserving something. | |
| And typically that means traditional social values. | |
| But that doesn't mean that you can't be a Republican. | |
| They're just very different. | |
| Yeah, I think you're certainly a Republican. | |
| Obviously, 2024. | |
| I think that's the whole thing. | |
| Where's the Trump photo? | |
| Pull the Trump photo up again. | |
| Can you bring his Trump on the spot, guys? | |
| I think that's going to be a stretch, but I'll do my best. | |
| Would you make content with Trump? | |
| Because you said you wouldn't do it with anyone but your employer. | |
| Well, apparently, you know, we were going to get married. | |
| Would you let Trump dick down? | |
| Because I would. | |
| If he was my boyfriend. | |
| Do you think he would be your boyfriend? | |
| I don't think he's going to get divorced. | |
| He loves blonde women. | |
| He loves blonde women. | |
| He loves jackass. | |
| I don't think he's going to get divorced because I want him to be happy, but I do think if he were single, he'd be very happy with me. | |
| Yeah, you look like Melania. | |
| He is like, you know, he wasn't like, I mean, people could also argue he's not even a conservative, you know? | |
| So I completely understand. | |
| Like, I think people are trying to say, oh, I'm not a conservative. | |
| I'm a Trump supporter or Republican, but I don't think people understand that I am very conservative in the way I want to raise my children and want my family. | |
| And in, like, I hate feminism, and I think men should be the leaders. | |
| Women should take care of the children. | |
| And like, that's what, that's what they don't seem to understand. | |
| So you're, you're, but, so, okay, you're, you are, let's say you are traditional in all the other realms with the exception of not shooting porn, which I think is like, that's like. | |
| I don't identify as a porn star. | |
| Well, getting dicked down on the internet, love. | |
| I don't identify. | |
| Is it sexual acts that you're doing or just nude photos? | |
| Sexual acts. | |
| Which is with my boyfriend. | |
| Are you still going to do the content now that you guys are broken it? | |
| Also, now that you're my new husband that I got engaged to, now that you're quote-unquote engaged and you want to be a mommy soon, like, do you think you would stop your OnlyFans to do that? | |
| So you're going to do OnlyFans when you have a daughter? | |
| Would you do pregnant OnlyFans? | |
| Wait, what would you say? | |
| I don't think that's raising your children very traditionally. | |
| That is not raising a traditional family. | |
| I mean, it's not even going to be weird by the time I have kids because there's so many. | |
| Your pussy's going to be on the internet. | |
| It's not going to be weird. | |
| Everyone's going to be in school. | |
| Yeah, like everyone's mom's going to be having OnlyFans mom by the time. | |
| My pussy is not about to be on the internet. | |
| Ellie's pussy. | |
| Or Ellie's pussy ain't going to be on the internet. | |
| I mean, I'm not telling you to put yours on there, but it's not going to be a weird job by the time I actually have kids and stuff. | |
| See, here's the bridge. | |
| She's not a traditional. | |
| She's saying that culture is going to change. | |
| She's saying culture is going to change by the time that she has kids. | |
| It'll be normal for everybody to have dance. | |
| We cannot. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Christy, we cannot allow the Overton window to shift for it to be normalized for your mom to have nude photos of herself on the internet. | |
| We cannot allow it. | |
| This already is going to happen because of how they already are. | |
| We cannot do it. | |
| I have a question. | |
| We cannot allow it. | |
| Trustees. | |
| They're going to be super rich, though. | |
| But if your, let's say, your husband is so wealthy, he wants you to be stay at home. | |
| I want to be stay-at-home. | |
| But would you stop? | |
| Would you stop? | |
| Would you stay at home? | |
| No, but would you stop doing content? | |
| I don't. | |
| It doesn't really make sense to me, because why would I, like, I don't want to be a working mom, but I don't really have to do anything to work, except for put a camera in my bedroom and make sure that you're going to be able to do? | |
| But, let's say, your husband. | |
| But if my husband doesn't want me to do it yeah, I would consider stopping. | |
| But I would consider yeah, like if he doesn't want me to do it, but like, so the guy that you're in that situation, like my engagement guy, like he's down to do it and he's down to promote it so, and he's from a traditional household okay, but are you not traditionally $99. | |
| Dating is difficult as a 29 year old woman, but it became 10 times harder after hitting a six figures. | |
| Rachel, is there hope for women that make a lot of money in the dating scene? | |
| Well, I think Q. | |
| I think you have something on this. | |
| But isn't it the case, Q that as a woman starts earning more, her pool of potential partners tends to shrink absolutely? | |
| What and why is why? | |
| Is absolutely because women require a man who they feel is more competent than them, and finances is one of the markers that indicates that's true. | |
| Men don't really care what women, how much money women make. | |
| I think women are more often to leave to because they know they have money and they don't have to depend on anyone for money. | |
| Right? | |
| Yeah definitely, I mean that's cute and I and I get it. | |
| I get it, I understand. | |
| But um, it comes down to it. | |
| In a lot of social conversations, women think that men value that. | |
| So women will say, you, what do you? | |
| You know the classic question, what do you bring to the table? | |
| Oh, I make my own money. | |
| Well, that doesn't really matter, because you're not really benefiting you exactly, you're not going to be fun in the relationship and you still want me to do it, and so so I would agree. | |
| I don't think men care about your accolades. | |
| I don't think they care about our education level. | |
| I don't think they care about how much money that we make, what our career is. | |
| I think women think that they do, and I don't think men care about that at all. | |
| All right, I think we're gonna have you guys. | |
| Let's see if they wait. | |
| You guys look kind of on my head, really briefly. | |
| Do we look similar? | |
| Is it just because we're super agent? | |
| Yeah, that's what I was about to say. | |
| Definitely look similar. | |
| Yeah, because of the pickle ha, buzz Pickle. | |
| Because the hats, the military helmets, looks good Kelly, it's a good look for you. | |
| You should try to introduce this to Nordstroms. | |
| I don't think that would. | |
| You, don't think the World War I helmet? | |
| No, it's a good look, okay. | |
| Um we're, we were talking about tradition. | |
| Yeah, I was just gonna say I don't think it's very traditional to raise your kids. | |
| That's fine, that's fine. | |
| Do you want to just put it on Kiki's lap? | |
| Yeah, oh sure, let's put it on her lap back there. | |
| Kiki has no knees. | |
| Yeah, it's weird. | |
| Yeah, it looked like they were eight the, the rubber, it's I don't think you can see it on camera, but basically the rubber on her knees. | |
| It's like not the same. | |
| There's a joint, there's a joint and if she's bent, the rubber sheer like sheared. | |
| So okay, Christy Bender. | |
| The offender donated $99. | |
| We must not get to a point in society where boys in high school trade new photos of their friends' mother-like baseball cards. | |
| Damn. | |
| Get them graded. | |
| Like I said, we cannot allow the Overton window to shift for OF. | |
| I invite OF girls on the show. | |
| I'm cool with it on that angle, but I don't think we need, we cannot mainstream this. | |
| It can't be normalized. | |
| It'll be the downfall of society. | |
| It hurts girls. | |
| It already is. | |
| It hurts young girls. | |
| Like, it's you sit there at the end of high school and you go, I have a way out. | |
| I think the best way for someone to succeed in life is to have no other option. | |
| You have to be successful. | |
| And it's not saying that people can't be monetarily successful doing OnlyFans, because obviously you are, right? | |
| But there's something about not pursuing things that really give you happiness. | |
| Sorry, sorry. | |
| Sorry, go ahead, go ahead. | |
| When you see that as an easy option, and it is. | |
| It's an easy option. | |
| You still have to do work, but it is like, you know, playing life on recruit mode. | |
| It's always a fallback. | |
| And I don't think that's a healthy way for young girls to grow up. | |
| I mean, yeah, I think people don't really understand it. | |
| I've had a lot of other jobs, and this is honestly my favorite one. | |
| The easiest one, the one that I make the most money. | |
| I didn't really have to do anything. | |
| I'm just like living my life. | |
| I don't know people think I'm not happy as I'm doing it, but I it's like Best job I've ever had so Is it because it pays or it really gives you something? | |
| No, because it lets me just live my life in a very feminine energy. | |
| Like, I don't, as a female, I hate feminism telling females to go to school. | |
| But what is the feminine energy of having guys jacket to you online, though? | |
| Because I wake up and I decide, oh, do I want to work out? | |
| Do I want to go to the pool? | |
| What do I want to do? | |
| Like, I just, I don't believe like women should really have been in the workforce in the first place. | |
| But you think women should open up their pussy on the internet? | |
| Done, open it up. | |
| I mean, Robert by the Pussies 2024. | |
| I just not bothered. | |
| I mean, mine looks really good, so I don't really care if people see it. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| It's just weird to me that you would like possibly consider quitting your OnlyFans if you're a future. | |
| If she wants me to, but you wouldn't just do it out of the sake of your own goodness and your own values, especially for your children's. | |
| Well, you have to take a look at consideration before you decide on doing it. | |
| I have a question for you. | |
| So would you want your, like, say you're your daughter's idol or whatever, and she knows you do OnlyFans, would you let her get the OnlyFans? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You would let her see your content? | |
| No, she doesn't need to see my content, but if she wanted to become like an OnlyFans model, like she's having a dudes over here, I believe in freedom and entrepreneurship. | |
| She's having dudes over every day in her room. | |
| She's having dudes over every day. | |
| But I think now you have her because she's, like I'm saying, she's looking up to you. | |
| She's like, oh, my mommy does this. | |
| She's making a good life for herself. | |
| We're living good. | |
| I'm about to do it. | |
| I'm not going to be monogamy, though. | |
| There's been several people. | |
| She doesn't have to know it's through monogamy. | |
| I don't think she would know it was through monogamy. | |
| Through her growing up, she's not going to know what monogamy is. | |
| I will have a teacher what monogamy is. | |
| What about for young boys? | |
| There's been several cases of young dudes who have something. | |
| Like they've been bullied, deleting themselves. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because people found out about their mothers. | |
| I wasn't going to say it. | |
| I think you have to just. | |
| Because they get bullied with it. | |
| They're getting shown it every day. | |
| Look, here's my kids. | |
| I see your mom. | |
| Clip that. | |
| I'm homeschooling my children. | |
| Well, don't you do it. | |
| I'm not sure if I'm doing this right kid to get indoctrinated into schools. | |
| Okay, so do we just concede that she's traditional? | |
| You're kind of not, though. | |
| How do you just think, okay, I should say I'm a Trump supporter and I'm a Republican, but I'm not traditional. | |
| A traditional mom puts cookies in the oven, not cookie on the internet. | |
| I'm literally going to cook and clean and raise the kids. | |
| Jamie Cell think that's my husband. | |
| Yeah, which is great, but that's their dad. | |
| Go ahead, Kelly. | |
| How do you expect to teach your child monogamy when there's videos of you fucking multiple men on the internet? | |
| Only that have been my best friend, though. | |
| So, like, I've always in a monogamous relationship. | |
| But you're sharing. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| You're sharing the most sacred part of the relationship with the whole internet. | |
| A monogamous relationship. | |
| But you're sharing the most sacred part of your relationship with the whole internet. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you think your son's going to care if you were monogamous with Brian when he shot a camshot on the Face or did he use that name? | |
| Wait, what? | |
| But if he saw that and you said, no, no, but I was dating him at the time. | |
| Oh, cool, mom. | |
| Nice. | |
| Moisturizer. | |
| I mean, like. | |
| You keep focusing on monogamy. | |
| My stepdad just. | |
| You keep bringing up monogamy. | |
| But I'm not mad that he's a CPA. | |
| Does he have nudes on the internet? | |
| No, but like, I don't know. | |
| How do you know that your stepdad doesn't pay to watch your OnlyFans? | |
| Oh, he probably does. | |
| He's just under a different usage. | |
| He does. | |
| Q, you had something. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I'm serious. | |
| No one will ever go for a. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| Go ahead, Q. | |
| I think it's interesting that you keep highlighting monogamy, which tells me that you're more concerned with the perception of being a whore as opposed to what? | |
| I mean, I just only want to have a monogamous relationship. | |
| Maybe. | |
| But how does that negate the fact that you have OnlyFans, though? | |
| Like you keep saying, monogamy, monogamy, monogamy. | |
| I don't think that since it's with my boyfriend, I'm not like, I don't think it's considered being a whore if you're not like sleeping around with like a bunch of people. | |
| But everyone's supposed to hold it. | |
| But you're a sex worker. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Like, regardless, you're with your man or not, people don't know he's your man. | |
| They're not going to deal with it. | |
| Everyone knows. | |
| No, I think it depends on them. | |
| They're not going to deep dive and be like, oh, it's just because it's her boyfriend. | |
| I mean, it's only been the same person. | |
| People aren't going to come on your show because they're like, oh, it's just her and her boyfriend. | |
| They're coming on your show because you're getting fucked. | |
| And that's all they care about. | |
| You have something. | |
| Yeah, I was just going to say, it sounds like this disagreement is kind of like how you define monogamy. | |
| Because if you don't know what that is. | |
| No, it has nothing to do with monogamy. | |
| No, but what you guys, like what Q is saying is that you're just colours. | |
| Just because you get dicked down in a MAGA hat doesn't make you conservative. | |
| You're lying to yourself, like you lied about the police officer assault. | |
| Yes, I know the truth. | |
| Do you want to address that? | |
| Brandon? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is that the X? | |
| There was an article, and it was: if you have a brain, clearly could tell the guy that wrote it was really, really mad that I'm a Republican and trying to make me look bad. | |
| But yeah, I didn't get any charges or anything for that. | |
| It's just an article on. | |
| What did you do? | |
| It says I assaulted a police officer, but I didn't actually assault a police officer. | |
| The charges were dropped? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, but you were. | |
| I was in my own home and like there weren't supposed to be police let in in the first place and yeah, the charges were dropped. | |
| But so you gotta do that. | |
| And the article was made because the guy was trying to bash me for like being a Trump supporter, but like not backing the blue. | |
| Like, so he's just trying to make it. | |
| So you got arrested, but the charges were dropped. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Finish my thought. | |
| It sounds like, you know, what Q and maybe what Brian, you're saying also, is that monogamy isn't just a penis inside a vagina, but it's also who you're stimulating sexually, visually. | |
| So it sounds like the argument that you guys are making is that if you're stimulating other people sexually, then that in itself is not monogamous. | |
| That's actually a very good point. | |
| Even the bio, even the bio on the OnlyFans, your deck will explode. | |
| You're also not. | |
| That's almost cheating, right? | |
| Like if you have a boyfriend and then imagine saying your boyfriend another dude's dick. | |
| It depends. | |
| Like, what do you mean doing all that? | |
| My dicks aren't. | |
| It just depends. | |
| Like, my actually didn't have any problem with my OnlyFans. | |
| I think he liked my OnlyFans more than I liked it. | |
| So, Chrissy, if you consider yourself to be conservative, but you still have an OnlyFans and you're really worried about, well, I'm monogamous because I'm only having sex with my boyfriend and all these different types of things. | |
| And you promote the idea of conserving family and all of that. | |
| Don't you think that the content you're putting out has the potential to destroy other marriages and other families? | |
| There are probably a lot of married men that are subbing to your content. | |
| Yeah, but that's because you're getting money at the end of the day. | |
| The thing is, it's just like if people are going to do what they want to do, they're going to watch whatever they're going to do. | |
| Like, I can't control their actions. | |
| So I understand why, like, your point, but like I said last time, I'm like, it's not my fault. | |
| Eve ate the apple. | |
| Like, I can't control people's actions. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like, you can't control their actions, but you're also condoning their behavior of just subscribing to your job. | |
| And you're like, people sell weed shit all the time. | |
| People sell like protein powders to someone who's not going to the gym. | |
| They're still spending that money. | |
| Like, does it matter that she's selling something? | |
| Like, even if it is herself. | |
| It's just the selling it, period. | |
| Yeah, but at the end of the day, it's just supposed to be free on porn hub. | |
| I'm confused. | |
| No, it's just exposing yourself. | |
| You don't give it at all. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Make people work for it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Buy your dinners because it's the same thing, right? | |
| But I want to bring up those shit. | |
| Flan Life, thank you very much. | |
| Oh, wow, everyone's getting in on the thank you, FlanLive. | |
| Good to see you. | |
| Good to see you in the chat. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I think that just the big thing is, and just the way you've described it, like you may very well, in all other aspects and all other realms, you might very well fit into like your traditional in terms of your politics, in terms of how you want to raise your family, perhaps some of your other values. | |
| But in this specific instance, I think it's like you just, I think the fact that you are engaged in doing adult content precludes you from identifying as someone who's traditional. | |
| Yeah, that's making a lot of people very mad. | |
| That you're identifying as a message. | |
| I don't think they're making us mad. | |
| We're just trying to get to the bottom. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| I mean, like, in general, I think we're just trying to get to the bottom of how you're viewing it. | |
| Will you admit that you are in this particular dimension when it comes to, you know, producing this sort of content, that you have, you're not traditional. | |
| I don't know what the synonym would be of traditional. | |
| I don't have a traditional job. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Would you acknowledge that you're progressive in this particular realm? | |
| Is that the same thing? | |
| That's, like, the only thing that you could say would be non-traditional. | |
| Okay, so you would... | |
| That would be the one... | |
| Like, me having an OnlyFans might be a non-traditional job, but the way I think every single other part of it is very traditional. | |
| But it's the ratio. | |
| Because like, that's a really hard thing. | |
| Because there's so many traditional things, and then it's out of one. | |
| So let's say it's a scale. | |
| Sure, sure. | |
| Here's a let's say there's a scale of being a traditional person and you have to like drop various factors for the scale to reach a threshold of being considered traditional and then you have on the other side of non-traditional you have yeah but that that's like a huge weight on the non-traditional weighted the most let's let this come through yo brandon and went off the grid bail was posted but you and i know you're not off the hook i have the receipts The people shall know the truth. | |
| Brian Brandon knows what I know me and you're not traditional. | |
| Also hi, Madison. | |
| Oh, Rip. | |
| Madison is not here, but Brandon, I will let you know that you said hi. | |
| Do you have a response to that? | |
| Yeah, he's acting like I'm in hiding. | |
| First of all, I don't have any charges or anything against me. | |
| There's no pending anything against me. | |
| I wish that my socials didn't get deleted. | |
| My first Instagram that I love, that I had the most engagement with, got deleted from Instagram because I went on a political rant about how they're indoctrinating children in schools and I wouldn't trust that and they're trying to transform the children. | |
| And that's when my Instagram got deleted. | |
| I did not like delete it on purpose. | |
| I really actually want to get it back. | |
| But my hair used to be dark. | |
| Yeah, I had really, really blonde hair and then I went dark and then I went back to being really blonde. | |
| That just was because I felt like changing my hair color though. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let me get a couple chats in here. | |
| You definitely don't know the truth. | |
| You just think you do. | |
| Nick, did you get the orange one from Emmanuel? | |
| Oh, is it sus? | |
| What? | |
| Wait. | |
| Is it? | |
| Uh, it's, uh, that's okay, I'll... | |
| Here, let me read a couple. | |
| All right, we have Puffy Vegas back. | |
| I'm going to say this one more time. | |
| All women cheat. | |
| I've never cheated in my life. | |
| All women cheat. | |
| According to Puffy Vegas, all women cheated. | |
| I've never cheated. | |
| You might just need to go to therapy and talk about it. | |
| You're not picking the right one. | |
| So, Madison, Brandon, wanted to say hi to you. | |
| Oh, it's because I said hi to him after the last chat. | |
| He said, Okay, yeah. | |
| He sent in a TTS while you're gone. | |
| Thank you, Brandon. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| Good to see you, Brandon. | |
| I think it's just because you're in Las Vegas and a lot of the women there in your scene just maybe are good. | |
| Loose very, very promiscuous. | |
| So maybe all the girls at your meeting. | |
| Are they promiscuous in Vegas? | |
| You asked me. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, there you have it. | |
| People were getting mad at me because, or at least one person really was, because I said people in like rural areas didn't have like, they weren't going out the way you go out in Vegas and that changes the ratios. | |
| But like that is actually what I was saying. | |
| Like, yes, like if you're in like Vegas or Miami or like a certain city, like hot cities. | |
| Rachel Falling donated $99. | |
| I don't do off and already have a hard time dating. | |
| If I had an off, I'm giving up the one thing that could secure a future family for me. | |
| Hello. | |
| Thank you, Rachel. | |
| Yo, Rachel, this name sounds familiar. | |
| I don't know if you DM'd us asking to be on the show. | |
| Or wait, has she been on the show? | |
| Wait, Rachel? | |
| I'll know, but hey, Rachel, thank you for the TTS. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| I don't have a hard time dating, so I don't really know what to tell you about that. | |
| You don't have a hard time dating. | |
| I actually can. | |
| Yeah, I'm engaged. | |
| She's engaged. | |
| To be honest with you, like, first of all, my OnlyFans, like, took off as an accident. | |
| It was kind of like a social experiment. | |
| I was selling bikini pictures for $100. | |
| $100? | |
| Yeah, bikini. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's how it started. | |
| And then things escalated. | |
| What were you doing in these bikini pictures? | |
| You have your butthole hanging out or something? | |
| No, I totally. | |
| I swear to God, that's how it started. | |
| Who's paying $100 for that? | |
| That's how it started. | |
| And I used to have like my old, this is why I wish I had my old Instagram account because over the years from like going to school and moving around so much and doing different careers, I had, and like being a bartender, I had so many guys follow my Instagram that wanted to get with me that as soon as I dropped my OnlyFans, they all went in there and then they were telling me how like one fan told me he went to college with me and I didn't like, | |
| I know who, I know his name and I know the fraternity he's in, but I don't remember like seeing him in person or like who he like what he looks like. | |
| But he told me that he would always go out to the bars and jerk off to my Facebook page, which Facebook pictures are horrible. | |
| Go out to the bars and dude, this is in 2010, 2011. | |
| You can at least stand outside your window. | |
| So like, yeah, like people, people have been jerking off for me for free on Facebook. | |
| You should have a t-shirt. | |
| You should have a t-shirt. | |
| Like, I'm just now making money off of it. | |
| I'm sure they're doing it for free on my Instagram too. | |
| But the Facebook pictures thing, I think, are nuts because that's like group photos. | |
| Yeah, it boosts your ego. | |
| No, it didn't. | |
| It boosted my ego. | |
| It's just why I made a lot of money really fast and why I escalated. | |
| I've subscribed to probably about 10 OnlyFans accounts with my wife. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Because they're people we know. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| And we, we just, I've reviewed it on my YouTube channel. | |
| And it's hilarious to watch these people just open their legs on camera and you know. | |
| Okay, but this is what I'm talking about. | |
| This is why I could never, I mean, there's a million reasons why I would never do OnlyFans, but I could not get past the idea that people I know in real life, my neighbor, my step parent, or whatever, are making accounts and watching me. | |
| And I feel like, wasn't it a girl in Australia? | |
| This just happened. | |
| This girl had an OnlyFans and then she found out that her stepdad was like her biggest sub and paying thousands of dollars a month and then she figured it out. | |
| That freaks me out. | |
| That went viral on TikTok about a month or so ago. | |
| And it was, it was crazy. | |
| I'm just not bringing that about. | |
| Hold on just a sec. | |
| Raspy looks and acts like a Dollar Tree Marjorie Taylor Green. | |
| Doctor. | |
| Do you know? | |
| I assume you know who that is. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| And MTG. | |
| Do you want to say anything back to Friend Life? | |
| I don't really have like a comment back to that. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me get a couple of the chats here. | |
| So we have, did we do this one from, I do the same thing channel. | |
| I have Fitbit reviews. | |
| This guy has got to save his money. | |
| I can't say something, though. | |
| I have a lot of... | |
| Do you mind if I say something? | |
| Okay. | |
| I have a lot of fans that would also consider themselves conservatives. | |
| Are they fans, though? | |
| Yeah, I was just about to say they're not fans. | |
| People who come to my comedy shows, right? | |
| They're fans. | |
| They want to get photos. | |
| They want to get merch, all that type of stuff. | |
| A little closer, I'm sorry. | |
| They want to get merch, all that type of stuff. | |
| They watch all the videos and that type of stuff. | |
| But after these guys blow their load, do they care about you still? | |
| Nope. | |
| Yeah, like this is the thing that people don't understand on my OnlyFans. | |
| And it's a lot different from the couple that I was on with last time. | |
| Like my OnlyFans, like we have, we're actually like talking about a lot of things. | |
| Like we're like connecting. | |
| We're not always just talking about actual things at all. | |
| Like we're actually, we talk about politics. | |
| I talk about politics with them all the time. | |
| My bio also says patriot. | |
| And a lot of the people I've gotten are because they're like, oh my God, finally, like a conservative girl. | |
| Cause like so many girls are like Many girls these days are like liberals, so it's smart what you're doing, like it's good marketing because these guys are like finely. | |
| Like, I've got a MAGA girl I can jerk off over. | |
| Like, it's smart. | |
| You understand? | |
| But they identify as conservative too. | |
| So that's all they can. | |
| You consider yourself conservative, but you may not be. | |
| So the argument is like, I should be saying I'm Republican and not conservative. | |
| Do you need to say it? | |
| Who cares? | |
| Exactly. | |
| I don't literally care. | |
| I mean, just everyone's not going to consider you conservative if you say that. | |
| You don't consider me conservative, but I. | |
| But you are. | |
| But I, yeah, I mean, I don't care if they like. | |
| You are, but you're not. | |
| I don't care if they believe what's in my heart, but I definitely don't want to have anything to do with being like a leftist, a moderate. | |
| Like, I am a complete Republican. | |
| So you don't want to say that. | |
| I know nobody likes fighting the River. | |
| But I know SBA guess you're a left thing. | |
| You're woke, I think. | |
| Yeah, you're woke. | |
| You're woke. | |
| You're woke. | |
| Stick a MAGA hat in your ass or you are woke up. | |
| I can't say I woke. | |
| I don't do like the ass stuff. | |
| Oh, so you're missing out on such a huge potential of this. | |
| That's where you draw the line. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Pussy. | |
| Of course not. | |
| I pull out. | |
| Okay. | |
| So we got some chats here. | |
| We got some more from Puffy Vegas. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| He said, never met a faithful woman. | |
| I'm going to say this one more time. | |
| All women cheat. | |
| I do. | |
| He says, oh, I already read Fitbit reviews. | |
| Okay, we have the Cast Man 777. | |
| Hey, thank you, man. | |
| Trump is not actually a conservative. | |
| He was actually a populist moderate. | |
| This is not necessarily a bad thing. | |
| However, support for Trump can't be used as a litmus test for being conservative. | |
| Getting digged down with the MAGA hat is not conservative. | |
| Oh, not moot, thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| It's not ideal, but someone's gonna do it. | |
| The extra thing she gets is living the easy life since it's possible at all. | |
| Nobody wants to see Christy be the grasshopper. | |
| Don't gang up on the girl, Toe. | |
| She's a guest, and also don't be jealous of the easy life. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| I agree. | |
| I completely telling us to stop missing with her. | |
| Don't gang on. | |
| And not to be jealous that my life is easier than other people's. | |
| Thank you. | |
| All right, there you have it. | |
| We have Puffy Vegas once again. | |
| Leave the blonde girl alone. | |
| This is her life. | |
| Let it be in life. | |
| I'm sick of you acting like I'm just sick of it. | |
| Okay, Puffy Vegas. | |
| I just can't believe little old me is so controversial. | |
| I don't think you're controversial at all. | |
| It's just that one thing. | |
| Like, you say that you're a traditional person. | |
| That's like saying you don't like gay people, but then you suck one dick a day. | |
| Like, it's not, you're not quite there. | |
| You got to commit to the bid. | |
| You know what, though? | |
| There are people who say that they can suck dick and not be gay. | |
| It's a thing, apparently. | |
| You're not gay for sucking my. | |
| What's that from Harold and Kumar? | |
| You're gay for sucking my dick. | |
| I saw that. | |
| Nothing's gay. | |
| Like, Trump Republican OnlyFans girls. | |
| There's a whole thing on Reddit. | |
| Is it like a fetish? | |
| Oh, you know what? | |
| Is actually a fetish that I get a lot of. | |
| I get a lot of liberal men wanting to pay me to degrade them. | |
| They don't actually even want pictures or videos of me. | |
| They just want to pay the Republican girl to degrade them for being like a pussy little bitch. | |
| Based. | |
| So that is actually a huge thing. | |
| Hey, I can do that also without naked pictures. | |
| Like, I would do that for free, but they're not paying for the naked pictures. | |
| They're paying for the. | |
| Yeah, they have a degradation kink. | |
| Yeah, Okay. | |
| Like, I would do that for free if they like commented on my Instagram. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Well, there you go. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Now you're going to get a whole bunch of people. | |
| Nobody's paying it for it no more. | |
| All right, we have Virgin Slayer. | |
| Raspy traditional sex worker, please steel man the argument against doing OnlyFans. | |
| Wait, who do you want to steel man? | |
| You want Kristen to steel man? | |
| Chrissy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, sorry. | |
| Chrissy? | |
| Oh, Chrissy, excuse me. | |
| You want us to steel man Virgin Slayer? | |
| I think I'm confused. | |
| Yeah, he's directing it towards Raspy. | |
| Argument against. | |
| He wants to make an argument. | |
| He wants you to argue for the other side, which is why do you think people shouldn't do OnlyFans? | |
| What's wrong with OnlyFans? | |
| I don't think there's anything wrong with it. | |
| Or I wouldn't be doing it. | |
| So you don't acknowledge that there's you don't think there's any detriment when it comes to having these kinds of photos out there when it comes to your future husband, to your kids. | |
| Zero detriment. | |
| I actually, no, because, but I actually did, like, when my OnlyFans was super, super G-rated with just bikini and lingerie pictures. | |
| When I decided to, like, take it further, I actually thought it was going to negatively impact my dating life where I thought that could have been an option, but I decided to go through with it anyway, and it has not hurt my dating life. | |
| Yeah, but you've only experienced doing OnlyFans in the present. | |
| Like, you have no idea once you do have kids and stuff, how that could affect them. | |
| I mean, look at Brittany Spears' kids. | |
| They want nothing to do with her because they're so embarrassed by her nudes and stuff she keeps posting on Instagram. | |
| Yeah, I mean, no one can predict the future at this table, I don't think, but I do think it will be, I know you don't want it to be normalized, and I'm not saying it should be. | |
| It's just what is going to happen because there are so many content creators that like we're going to have kids and it's going to be a normal job. | |
| It just is. | |
| This is why men need to refuse to date and marry women who do OnlyFans. | |
| So if your kid, say if your daughter like came up to you and asked to do OnlyFans, you wouldn't warn anything. | |
| You wouldn't warn her about anything. | |
| I'm not saying I wouldn't warn her of anything. | |
| I would tell her. | |
| Well, I guess that's what we're asking. | |
| What would you have to not let when you knew it? | |
| That's what she wanted to do. | |
| I mean, I believe, so just who you are. | |
| Would you be cool with your mom starting an OnlyFans? | |
| I mean, she wouldn't, but that's fine. | |
| But you're fine with my sister starting an OnlyFans. | |
| Your sister did? | |
| No, but I'd be fine if she wanted to. | |
| She doesn't want to. | |
| You'd be cool with your mom doing Bukakis and shit. | |
| I'd be fine with anyone. | |
| You'd be fine with your mom doing Bukakis. | |
| Me and my sister have a joke about Bukakis. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| I've never participated in one, and I never will participate in one. | |
| Okay. | |
| You never can predict the future. | |
| I don't know if you can. | |
| Never say never. | |
| Never say never. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| We have life. | |
| Like, if you want to do a book. | |
| Here, we'll move on. | |
| It would explain the Raspi voice. | |
| The Bukkaki. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I didn't know you really swallowed in a Bukaki. | |
| I thought you were more just. | |
| Well, if you have an Ago. | |
| I thought it was kind of on you. | |
| Professionals swallow. | |
| I've never seen it. | |
| No, no. | |
| I don't know how. | |
| I really thought you just kind of got drenched in it. | |
| I didn't think you actually swallowed because there's so much at one time and you're in the middle. | |
| You're very far away to actually swallow it. | |
| What do you do in a buffite? | |
| Do you just chew it? | |
| No, you swallow it. | |
| Like a real. | |
| Traditionally. | |
| I don't think anyone on this table is not a Bukkaki. | |
| You don't know me? | |
| I don't understand you saying that you want to homeschool your kids and stuff because you're worried about them getting indoctrinated at school. | |
| You're obviously worried about the well-being of children, yet the content that you're putting out on the internet is so harmful, and there could be underage kids that are subbing to your content. | |
| I don't know if she is worried about the well-being of children. | |
| She's wearing them on her face. | |
| We're not going to talk about that. | |
| We do have Leonel Melendez here. | |
| Don't listen to the people that say you aren't Republican because you do OF. | |
| Well, that's not what we're saying. | |
| Those are the extreme incels of the right or the super closed minded. | |
| As to adult content with your partner, I'd say it's okay as long as it's not a partner every other month that'll make you a 305. | |
| I agree. | |
| I disagree with Mr. Lionel Melendez. | |
| That's like, I completely agree. | |
| That's like exactly how that's what I think too. | |
| So do you want to be a housewife? | |
| Like you just want to, you don't want to work, you just want to stay at home. | |
| Well, I want to be a housewife, but I'll have my OnlyFans technically. | |
| So you're going to have your OnlyFans for the rest of your life? | |
| Probably. | |
| Definitely, yeah. | |
| Because she's wrinkled. | |
| Fuck it, granny people. | |
| It's bringing in so much. | |
| Like, why would I stop slinging from bringing in revenue? | |
| Exactly. | |
| So that's what I'm just saying. | |
| So that's what I'm saying. | |
| So your daughter is going to be at home, homeschooled, on Zoom with her little, her teacher, but you're going to be getting fucked. | |
| In the next room. | |
| In the next room by your husband. | |
| But do you not understand how that is detrimental to your daughter? | |
| A daughter is not supposed to see a woman and their mom and dad fucking. | |
| A girl is not supposed to see no children. | |
| That's how it's going to lead to like resentment. | |
| But she can. | |
| She can see it. | |
| She can go on the internet. | |
| She can go on the internet. | |
| But she can go on the internet and see her mom and dad fucking. | |
| Or even if it's not her, people, like kids, kids are mean. | |
| Like they're going to send it to, they're going to send it to her. | |
| They're going to send it to her. | |
| They're going to be. | |
| They're like, oh, look at your mom. | |
| I'm going to teach my kids. | |
| Close their eyes when the photos come on. | |
| I know. | |
| I'm literally going to teach my kids to be entrepreneurial and to do whatever they want. | |
| That doesn't stop. | |
| Everyone has freedom to do what they want. | |
| We're not telling you to stop. | |
| We're not telling you to stop. | |
| We're trying to get you to be like, okay. | |
| Okay, you're trying to get me to say, stop. | |
| My daughter, my daughter is going to have a horrible life, but I don't know what to say. | |
| No, we're not saying anything about life. | |
| We're just saying, why? | |
| Like, think about, we're telling you, think about the kids aspect, like the perspective of a kid. | |
| You may be like, oh, they're going to have a good life. | |
| They're going to live up going happy. | |
| They're going to get to buy whatever they want. | |
| They're going to be able to do whatever they want. | |
| We're going to be at Abu Dhabi every other Christmas. | |
| But what I'm saying is. | |
| That's so specific. | |
| What I'm saying. | |
| Everything. | |
| What I'm saying is, like, kids are like emotional wrecks. | |
| They're not going to see it how you're seeing it. | |
| They're going to be like, oh, my mom is out here doing this. | |
| And then she's going to do that at a young. | |
| She's going to think it's okay. | |
| She's going to think it's okay. | |
| She's going to grow up. | |
| It's going to be somebody who tells who's, because she might not have thick skin like you. | |
| Like, you have very thick skin. | |
| Your daughter might not have thick skin. | |
| What people may say might get to her. | |
| She might get depressed. | |
| She might, you know, end up having problems. | |
| But you don't know that. | |
| You don't know what you're saying. | |
| I feel like my mom raised me real good, but what my mom expects. | |
| We're looking at her. | |
| Hey, Rachel, thank you. | |
| What would you do as a housewife if you don't want to cook or clean? | |
| I do want to cook. | |
| Isn't that what a housewife is? | |
| A person that takes care of the house and home living? | |
| I literally said I wanted to cook and clean. | |
| Like, I literally said. | |
| Yeah, but you putting coins together. | |
| I don't know if you answered this totally, but let's say your husband was very wealthy. | |
| He can provide for, you don't have to work. | |
| I don't know. | |
| He makes a million dollars a year, right? | |
| That's not a lot of money. | |
| Get fucked up. | |
| What? | |
| That's a ridiculous thing anyone's ever said. | |
| I don't think that's like, well, just curious, how much do you make from? | |
| I mean, I'm not going to say how much I make, but I'm going to make it. | |
| Why? | |
| You just said a million dollars is not a lot. | |
| So if you make more than a million dollars, you should be out here saying, yeah, I make more than a fucking million dollars. | |
| Why I'm still because my stepdad makes way more money than that. | |
| So I just. | |
| Your stepdad. | |
| But you're 33. | |
| So I just like don't. | |
| Why are you relying on your stepdad? | |
| I'm not relying on my stepdad. | |
| But wait, no, we're talking about your money. | |
| Because I don't, I can't like reveal certain things about my OnlyFans. | |
| Well, don't tell us how much you make a year. | |
| How much you make like a monthly year. | |
| Like a range. | |
| I thought making $2 million a year was normal for people. | |
| Yeah, it's not necessary. | |
| No, it is not. | |
| And if you're not making $2 million a year, you're an absolute loser. | |
| Talking about all of you. | |
| What's the average? | |
| What's the average salary a man makes a year? | |
| 80, 80K? | |
| No, 80 less than that. | |
| It's 40 something. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yeah, and us high-value people, we make $2 million, right? | |
| Hold on. | |
| No one's going to be able to do that. | |
| You think most people make $2 million? | |
| I used to. | |
| I found this out kind of. | |
| Well, did you have a brain injury? | |
| Why? | |
| I didn't think it was that weird from the area I grew up. | |
| Where did you grow up? | |
| Abu Dhabi? | |
| New Jersey. | |
| Okay. | |
| What's happening in New Jersey? | |
| Baskingers, New Jersey. | |
| I just don't, I don't think it was that weird. | |
| Can you give us a range? | |
| A range. | |
| Like, do you make five figures a month? | |
| I'm not going to give any range about anything. | |
| Six figures a month? | |
| I'm not going to. | |
| But you'll put your pussy on the internet. | |
| How many subs do you have when you're OnlyFans? | |
| I can't say that either. | |
| I was trying to trick that. | |
| Anyway, to go back and say that. | |
| To go back to Blue Year. | |
| Let me just. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, hold on. | |
| You think someone making a million dollars a year is not enough? | |
| Well, I mean, this is the thing. | |
| I'm not saying it's not enough for me, but when you're like, if someone, if you meet someone that's so, so wealthy, would you stop it? | |
| And then you said a million. | |
| I was like, oh, I don't think that's the wealthy person. | |
| That's me. | |
| Not saying you're not wealthy. | |
| A millionaire is not a wealthy person. | |
| I mean, I don't know. | |
| I live in Miami. | |
| Maybe things are different. | |
| I'm saying a million dollars a year. | |
| That's enough in any city in the U.S. For you to like for you to be a stay-at-home wife and not have to work. | |
| Okay. | |
| In any city in the world. | |
| So how about we take the million dollars thing away and just say if it was an extremely wealthy man and I did answer this, but they didn't like the word. | |
| I said consider it. | |
| 10 million a year. | |
| I said I would consider if he wanted me to do it. | |
| And then people got mad that I said consider and not just a hard yes because you can't just give anything a hard yes without consideration first. | |
| But yeah, if he wanted me to do it, I probably would get rid of it if that was a big deal to him. | |
| That was like a make or break and I was in love with him. | |
| But like I have addicted to the attention from OnlyFans. | |
| I have literally not had any guy tell me that I would need to delete my OnlyFans. | |
| Because no guy has wanted to marry you yet. | |
| For real, for real. | |
| What a rage. | |
| Where's the ring? | |
| My ex-boyfriend wanted to marry me and he loved that I was. | |
| But how did that turn out? | |
| Well, I broke up with him. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| So, but he wanted to make it work really, really bad. | |
| Like he thought. | |
| So then why didn't you want to marry him? | |
| Because I could just tell he wasn't my person. | |
| Like, I'm not going to just marry just anyone. | |
| Just like how we were saying it's very important to date someone and get to know them. | |
| And like, there's a thing called intuition. | |
| And you either feel like someone is meant to be with you forever or that you don't. | |
| And I'm not going to date someone just because I didn't feel like he was my forever and I don't want to get divorced. | |
| We've done a lot of talking about what's going to, like, why don't you think about stopping it for your kids, but it's too late. | |
| So you've got to think about now how you're going to allow them to cope, particularly if you have a young boy. | |
| Like I know we're talking about young girls and stuff, but I think it's really damaging for a young boy to be shown at school. | |
| To add to that, you also keep saying you're going to teach them to be entrepreneurs. | |
| You can teach your kids anything, but they're going to do something else. | |
| You can tell your kids to not do drugs, but they're still going to do drugs. | |
| Right, exactly. | |
| What would you say to your son if he's 15 years old and they say, he comes up and says this, and they keep showing me these photos of you and your ex-boyfriend from 2022? | |
| I mean, this is the thing. | |
| The way I'm gonna raise them. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| What is the answer? | |
| I think all of this is the recipe for creating a serial killer. | |
| Like that's like what I'm imagining. | |
| With my mom question you can answer. | |
| This is what you're imagining. | |
| But he just asked you what would you do with stars with kids. | |
| But how are the kids? | |
| Right. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Should we bring them all on this podcast? | |
| Should we interview them? | |
| But what would you say to your son? | |
| If your son said, I've seen this, I've seen it. | |
| He's going to have already known that before. | |
| But he's seeing it. | |
| There's a difference between knowing it and seeing it. | |
| I feel like we've been sticking on this for a little too long. | |
| Let's move on. | |
| Neally got it, bro. | |
| We have Puffy Vegas, have the blonde girl rape me, Puffy Vegas, have all the girls rape me. | |
| One out of ten picture. | |
| I think Puffy's off his hand. | |
| I think we saw him. | |
| Yeah, Puffy just drummed 50. | |
| Donations. | |
| Puffy, you got to do. | |
| Puffy, I've told you, man. | |
| If you want an Instagram rating, you have to do it through Streamlabs. | |
| Send one TTS through Streamlabs and we'll rate you, buddy. | |
| Infinite singularity. | |
| Hey, thank you for the 50. | |
| At this table, Foresight eludes us all, except, of course, for our resident Oracle, Alex. | |
| Boom. | |
| Resident Oracle. | |
| All right, we have Blackface Trudeau with 60 Euro, I believe. | |
| Was that Euro? | |
| Or no, wait. | |
| That's Euro, right? | |
| Yeah, that's Euros. | |
| European Gangsta Trump would say TRFK Jr. belongs to the streets. | |
| What up, Brian? | |
| Big fan. | |
| Also, Carbstrong can suck vegan balls. | |
| Isaac knows what I mean. | |
| I do. | |
| And congrats on 2 million plus subs, Isaac. | |
| Congrats, man. | |
| Not on OnlyFans. | |
| I wish they were. | |
| Do you have a response to Trudeau here? | |
| Mr. B-Face Trudeau, thank you. | |
| Yeah, Joey Carbstrong is a vegan activist who spent a bit of time in jail for some violent crimes and now he doesn't like me. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Oh, there's like a beef. | |
| I have a lot of beef. | |
| Yeah, great pun. | |
| I have a lot of beef with the vegans. | |
| I have anti-vegan merch. | |
| I sell fuck vegan jerky. | |
| I've made a lot of money out of them. | |
| You wouldn't care. | |
| You wouldn't convert. | |
| No. | |
| No, but it's just veganism is a cult. | |
| It's also fake. | |
| Veganism is a cult, much like religion's a cult. | |
| It's all a cult. | |
| We're supposed to be eating meat. | |
| Now. | |
| True. | |
| Stop talking about work. | |
| I'm a huge carnivore. | |
| I'm not into the vegan stuff. | |
| did that just yeah no No, no, I got it. | |
| Oh, okay, okay, okay. | |
| I got it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Penis. | |
| But I actually would just like, I like that you're so against veganism. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I built my start of my channel on anti-vegans and anti-psycho stuff. | |
| Do you? | |
| Yeah, Peter doesn't like me either. | |
| They blocked me. | |
| It's been trying to get them to eat me. | |
| It's easy. | |
| I've been trying to get them to eat me. | |
| Just keep going. | |
| Just don't stop. | |
| Just keep attacking. | |
| They're crazy. | |
| It's fantastic. | |
| They're very easy people to annoy. | |
| Wait, did I, and I've seen quite a few of your videos. | |
| Did you ever do a video where you went to like a vegan establishment and you were eating like meat in front of them? | |
| No, I did. | |
| I can't remember. | |
| This is because over the last five years, I've uploaded like 600 videos on YouTube. | |
| So sure. | |
| I forget about every video I do as soon as I post it. | |
| But there's been a lot. | |
| There's been, I've done a lot of different things on my channel and with stand-up, and I get the most death threats from vegans. | |
| It's hilarious. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| It's great. | |
| I've been cancelled for jokes about Muslim people, about just like I did a horrible joke back in the day. | |
| It was hilarious, but horrible as well. | |
| I had about 10,000 DMs in the first like two or three hours that it went through, and it ended up about 60,000 in two days. | |
| All death threats, but I still get more from vegan people. | |
| And that is because they are weak pieces of shit. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Okay, now I'm going to get there you go, right to that one. | |
| I'm going to get it canceled. | |
| Okay, just the last thing on the whole OF thing. | |
| I just want to say one thing. | |
| If there's any young women who are watching, please do not model your lifestyle after women who do OnlyFans. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I honestly didn't think my OnlyFans was going to be like such a big deal. | |
| I thought we were just going to be like not. | |
| Yes, you did. | |
| No, like, when I first came onto the show, I'm like, oh, I just thought we were going to tell funny dating stories. | |
| We'll get to that. | |
| We'll get to that. | |
| I didn't think it was going to be like that big of a deal. | |
| And I think if I said I was a liberal, it wouldn't have been a big deal. | |
| I think it's that I know myself. | |
| Oh, yeah, it's contradictory. | |
| So it's interesting. | |
| It's unique to have someone say, I'm conservative, but I do OnlyFans. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like if you're some liberal feminist chick, it'd just be like, okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's like that was a shocker that I'm like a Republican. | |
| No, that's not Republicans. | |
| The shocker is the fact that you say that you are a traditional woman, that you want traditional values. | |
| But you have an OnlyFans. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| I know. | |
| The shock is actually that. | |
| That is the shock. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I feel like you would be great for OnlyFans. | |
| I know. | |
| I know all the moves. | |
| I know. | |
| The idea of me having sex on camera is the most disgraceful thing of all time. | |
| Way. | |
| I am so pale and gross. | |
| It's hilarious. | |
| Do you hate OnlyFans models or vegans more? | |
| Vegans. | |
| Probably vegans. | |
| Vegan. | |
| I know. | |
| I'm a big fan of nudes. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Again, if there's any young women watching, if you ever want to get married, if pictures of yourselves, excuse me, if pictures of yourself doing sexual things are all over the internet, your husband and your kids will not appreciate that. | |
| Just saying. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't think the husband doesn't. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| All right, we have Danny De Latore here. | |
| Girls have asked me if I talk to other girls while doing so with them. | |
| I don't care if they're talking to other guys, though. | |
| But if you have side hose and your main talks to another guy, that is fair game. | |
| Dating cannot have double standards. | |
| I think this is related to Q with. | |
| Oh, FDG. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Thank you very much, Merci Buku. | |
| It means the world. | |
| We have, okay, so he's saying, if I talk to other girls while doing so with them, I don't care if they're talking to other. | |
| See, I think this is where Q disagrees. | |
| I kind of disagree. | |
| If this is what you've negotiated, if you've negotiated a unilateral closed on their end or closed on their end to open on yours, and they're cool with that, I think that's totally legit. | |
| I think it's going to be hard to get. | |
| And actually, Q, I have a question for you on this. | |
| And if you want to respond to him, what is your pitch to a girl? | |
| Like, so you say you disclose to them, hey, you know, like, what is your pitch? | |
| What is the selling angle? | |
| How do you sell it to a girl? | |
| Well, I guess there's a couple different things. | |
| One, there's the non-monogamy component, but then also, like, with your main chick, how do you sell closed on your end, open on mine? | |
| Just like that. | |
| Oh, you just say that shit. | |
| Oh, flam life. | |
| Just like that. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| And then responding to him, he said double standards cannot, but they can because of biology. | |
| They can because of biology and they can because of the way the male brain works versus the way the female brain works. | |
| And as I said, if you know that a woman gets attached, you know this woman is selective. | |
| She only wants to date one guy and she chooses to be committed to you. | |
| You're the guy that she's attached to and she chooses to remain committed to you despite the fact that you date other girls. | |
| That's 100% her choice. | |
| The onus is on her. | |
| However, if I communicate that I'm aware that you're this way, I know that if you date another guy, that you would like that guy because of the way you move with me and because of the way you move prior to me, then I'm not accepting that because I know I already lost you to begin with. | |
| There would be even no point in me and contesting it. | |
| It's like, oh, I started dealing with this guy. | |
| I know that for you to have been dealing with that guy, it's been premeditated. | |
| Y'all have been talking. | |
| You've allowed him to sexually arouse you. | |
| You've gone out with him. | |
| You've spent time with him. | |
| You've got close to him. | |
| You've been intimate with him. | |
| And so that guy's going to naturally give you what you feel like you aren't getting from me, which is the commitment, especially if he's only dealing with you. | |
| So you're going to have more incentive to leave regardless. | |
| So therefore, it doesn't matter. | |
| Also, aren't there? | |
| There's a whole bunch of double standards, some that benefit men, some that benefit women. | |
| And I guess Danny De La Tora, Torre, whatever. | |
| Sorry if I got your name wrong there. | |
| Do you pay for the first date? | |
| That's a double standard that men are expected to pay for the first date. | |
| Just saying, like, do you, are you 50-50 on everything? | |
| Danny DeLay de la Torre? | |
| There's a lot of girls running around with Frey Dinnas. | |
| Foodie calls. | |
| Is a thing. | |
| Nick, can you pull up Twitch really quick? | |
| Let's shout out Twitch. | |
| Guys, go to twitch.tv. | |
| Oh, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever. | |
| Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub if you have one. | |
| Wait, who? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Close that out. | |
| No, Go back. | |
| Close the little fucking at the top. | |
| It's all good. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I forgot to Hellshock thing for the Prime, Carly, thing for the Prime. | |
| Rocking thing for the Prime. | |
| Drop thing for the Prime. | |
| Blink thing for the Prime. | |
| Is that your username, Blink? | |
| Wow, good for you, man. | |
| After Dark, Thing for the Prime. | |
| Three? | |
| I can't pronounce it. | |
| The Riley, I think. | |
| Think for the Prime Minister. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Okay, so I had a couple notes here. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Actually, really quick on the whole Q situation and it being closed on one end. | |
| Would any of you consider dating a guy where it's closed on your end, open on his? | |
| No. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I would not. | |
| Donald Trump. | |
| What about for Donald Trump? | |
| No, we would have to have a monogamous relationship. | |
| Well, he's making 10 milli. | |
| That's why I said I don't want him to have to get divorced. | |
| That's why I wouldn't put myself in the picture. | |
| Okay. | |
| I wouldn't. | |
| What about you? | |
| Do that ever. | |
| Keep in mind, this could be like your ideal guy. | |
| He could be very high status, very attractive. | |
| I'm going to go from personal. | |
| Like, if the guy I was dating now wanted to do like the whole we break up, but you stay there. | |
| I go out. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, I can't. | |
| Sure. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I wouldn't. | |
| Monogamy would be a core value for me. | |
| And just on the double standard, you know, I would also offer up that there are women out there who have multiple male partners and the male partners are monogamous to them. | |
| So, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with double standards as long as everyone agrees. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, I wouldn't. | |
| I wouldn't want to do that. | |
| Personally, I could not. | |
| Would not be my ideal man if he would not be monogamous to me. | |
| Alex. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Donald Trump. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| She's scarred. | |
| No, I just like it's that's disgusting. | |
| And also, I just wouldn't, I would lose attraction for a guy if I wasn't like the only woman in his life. | |
| Like if I really liked him and he was my ideal 10 out of 10 guy or whatever, but if he was talking to other girls besides me and I knew I was an option, I would lose attraction for him. | |
| You know, one of the interesting things that I love about this is you asking them what they think they would do. | |
| And I always say women don't honestly know what they would do until they're actually in the situation and their emotions, the emotionally charged variables that factor into that equation are actually present. | |
| I think I know what I would do in this situation. | |
| Yeah, I mean, you can say what you would do on outside looking in until you're actually in the situation. | |
| I don't think any of you have ever been in the situation. | |
| You've never seen it. | |
| I'm like, this is Sophie's choice. | |
| Like, I would never be attracted to a guy who's talking to girls. | |
| No, I'm saying that because you've been in this situation. | |
| I'm saying that because I'm also a relationship coach. | |
| And I see women do, I see women all the time who say one thing and actually do another in reality. | |
| And that's most of the women that I deal with. | |
| Women love saying what they would or wouldn't do. | |
| As I said, you're on the outside looking in. | |
| You're not in love. | |
| You don't know how you feel. | |
| You're not overwhelmed with the feelings that you have for that guy. | |
| You don't know that. | |
| None of you do. | |
| You can't say that. | |
| You can say what you think you wouldn't do until you're actually in the situation and there are circumstances to where you start to rationalize. | |
| You start to tell yourself, well, maybe I can change his mind or maybe it's me. | |
| Maybe it's something that I can do. | |
| There are all kinds of things that women go through that they tell themselves emotionally when they're caught up. | |
| And that's how so many women end up caught up. | |
| That's how women end up talking about fuck boys. | |
| That's how they end up talking about, oh, this guy did me wrong. | |
| Because a lot of the times those women are caught in situations because they're slaves to their emotions. | |
| And women are often slaves to their emotions. | |
| When you're not emotionally present in what I'm saying, then yeah, you can say, no, I wouldn't do that. | |
| I absolutely wouldn't do that. | |
| But if we're talking about, sorry, here, do you want to go for it? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| If we're talking about non-monogamous relationships, 92% of non-monogamous relationships fail. | |
| And it's because one of the reasons is because it's not a mutual decision. | |
| Well, you say relationships. | |
| I'm not talking about relationships. | |
| Well, that's just what I'm talking about. | |
| Yeah, you're talking about like being in a committed relationship dating a guy. | |
| I'm talking about if a guy is dating you and he's dating multiple women, but y'all aren't getting into one another. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| That's what I'm about to say. | |
| Because it's never a mutual decision. | |
| And a lot of the women that are going into non-monogamous relationships that are initiated by the man just feel like they have to say yes because they're too scared to lose. | |
| You know what those women say they wouldn't do? | |
| They say they wouldn't stay if they got cheated on. | |
| So you're saying women are driven by their emotions a lot. | |
| So in that case, wouldn't you, as a relationship coach, try to coach women on understanding what their boundaries are and sticking with them? | |
| Who said I did? | |
| I didn't. | |
| I'm just asking. | |
| You asked that question and that question is already on the presupposition that I don't. | |
| Okay, so then open. | |
| I absolutely do. | |
| I absolutely do because I want women to make decisions. | |
| I want them to draw boundaries. | |
| And at the end of the day, the goal is to give the woman a choice. | |
| So women don't feel like they don't have a choice. | |
| That's why you're open, honest, and transparent. | |
| That's why you say, hey, this is what the situation is. | |
| This is what's going on. | |
| This is what I want. | |
| You can do what you want or you can tell me that you want to conform to what I'm doing. | |
| And you leave the decision up to her. | |
| Women feel, the feelings of malice come from feeling betrayed, feeling lied to, feeling like they didn't have a choice. | |
| So what do you do? | |
| You eliminate those feelings. | |
| You eliminate the feeling of betrayal. | |
| You eliminate the feeling of they don't have a choice. | |
| You allow them to make their own decision. | |
| And that's when their emotions come in. | |
| That's why I said if a woman really likes you, a woman will stay through things that she thinks she wouldn't stay through. | |
| I can attest to that. | |
| And men who get women can attest to that, regardless of what women say, because women say the same things. | |
| I've dealt with women. | |
| Oh, you know, I can keep this casual. | |
| Oh, no, I really like that. | |
| I want to relax. | |
| I'm going to talk a little bit is where you're saying that a woman will sort of prove your her, prove how much she cares about you if you can sort of, if she proves to you that she's willing to do things that she wouldn't otherwise do. | |
| What that sounds like to me is sort of already having a little bit of soft boundaries. | |
| So the other way to approach that would be asking the woman, what are your boundaries and coaching her on how to stick with that. | |
| And that would be the approach that I would take. | |
| Overall, I think it's just different when you, like he said, like you, we're not in, if you're in love, it's completely different. | |
| Like when you are with, like when you are really, really like in love with this person, it does not matter what they say, what they do. | |
| You're still just going to love that person. | |
| And like the fact that we're all talking, we were talking about this like shows that some of us are clearly not in love. | |
| I've like, you know, I've been with you. | |
| That's why I respect your answer. | |
| You said no, and then you said, I honestly don't know. | |
| You know why she doesn't know? | |
| Because she knows how she feels about him right now. | |
| And she make that decision based on how she feels about him right now. | |
| And I think it's perfectly fine to not know. | |
| You know, we don't all have the answers right here, right now. | |
| And things change over time. | |
| You know, maybe one day one person says they want to be monogamous. | |
| The next six months, after six months, things change. | |
| Or they are in their headspace, changes. | |
| They want to open up the relationship. | |
| A year passes, they want to be monogamous again. | |
| So it's a fluctuating thing. | |
| We don't always have to know in the moment. | |
| But I think there is a difference between saying a woman doesn't know because she's a slave to her emotion and how she feels might change. | |
| That's true, but you can also take the approach of saying, well, so think about what your priorities are, what you want, and how can we figure out how to navigate within those boundaries without violating your own. | |
| Do you know how many emotions are you? | |
| And see, once again, this is why I'm speaking from now, I'm speaking from a place of authority. | |
| Because do you know how often I've tried that? | |
| I've preached that to women. | |
| Do you know how much women don't listen when they're in love? | |
| Do you know how many women come to me when they schedule a coaching session and they tell me what the issue is and the type of guy that they're dealing with? | |
| And I tell them about boundaries. | |
| I tell them, leave. | |
| I tell them these things. | |
| They don't do it. | |
| They won't do it. | |
| It's simple. | |
| See, it's different. | |
| See, as I said, behaviorally, when you see it, their behaviors contradict what they say they would do. | |
| I would never, or I could do this. | |
| Then when they're in a situation, okay, this is your opportunity to do it. | |
| No, he told me this, he told me that. | |
| And you're also forgetting the fact that men say things to the women on the other end. | |
| So she's not going to listen to the outside world. | |
| If you could tell a woman, you need to leave him. | |
| Her friends tell her, you need to leave him. | |
| Everybody tells her, you need to leave him. | |
| What matters more to her is what he's telling her. | |
| So what would you advise a female to do in that situation? | |
| And if she's stuck in a situation where she wants to leave but is having a hard time leaving, there's nothing you can do outside of telling her what she needs to do. | |
| You can't force her to. | |
| She has to come to that realization on her own. | |
| Could you say all these things about dudes, though? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like everything that you've said about giving people, like I feel like one of the issues with people taking on board what you're saying is you're allowing people to do things. | |
| And when you say that you allow it, it sort of means that you're demeaning someone. | |
| I think I know what you're saying, but I reckon that wording is probably not the best way to get your point across. | |
| I think with dudes, because dudes can be emotional wrecks too. | |
| Dudes can be cheated on and stay with the woman. | |
| Dudes can do all of those types of things. | |
| And they're coach them too. | |
| So, yeah, you're saying you can say those, but I think it's important to say that because otherwise it looks like you're attacking women, which you're not doing. | |
| Well, yeah, no. | |
| But it's important to say that. | |
| Otherwise. | |
| Yeah, but it's about where does it occur more. | |
| Sure. | |
| There's a disparity between how often men experience that and how often women experience that. | |
| And typically it's the woman experienced a lot more than the man is. | |
| Because men are more like men will leave. | |
| If men get cheated on, they leave. | |
| Women stay. | |
| Is that a pride thing, do you think? | |
| Like, does it just hit the pride? | |
| Or does it is it more of a it's built into your DNA that this person isn't the one to carry your child? | |
| It's both. | |
| I say the pride stems from what's built into your DNA. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I also have that. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think that's a very concise way to finish off what you're saying. | |
| That it is all built into our DNA. | |
| I think there's a book. | |
| Is it someone younger? | |
| Carl Jung. | |
| Carl Jung. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The book about sexual behavior. | |
| A very interesting read talking about why we do what we do. | |
| And everyone should read that. | |
| How it sort of fits into current societal norms and cultural norms and how we sort of trust certain people to carry our offspring and don't trust others. | |
| I think that's it's really it really speaks quite loudly if you allow if you will listen to it. | |
| Yeah, and if you realize a lot of domestic abuse comes from women who have committed an act of infidelity or they perceive that the woman has committed an act of infidelity. | |
| That's that pride and jealousy that comes into play. | |
| So when a woman cheats, a man is much more likely to put his hands on her if he finds out because of that sexual jealousy. | |
| Like sexual jealousy is in a sense more intense for men because men value sexuality more than women do. | |
| Like emotional cheating is deeper for women and sexual cheating is deeper for men. | |
| So it's harder for a man to overcome sexual infidelity than it is for a woman to overcome sexual infidelity. | |
| And it's also more difficult for a woman to overcome emotional infidelity than it is for her to overcome sexual infidelity because they place two different values on those things, two different weighted values. | |
| So emotional infidelity means more to women because as I said, women are emotions is how men demonstrate, you know, allocating resources, investing in resources. | |
| So if a man is cheating emotionally, then to that woman, that means he's giving that woman other things that he normally gives her, which means he really likes her. | |
| Whereas a woman, if she's cheating, then that means she has the possibility of conceiving that man's child and him fathering a child that's not his. | |
| So we take that much more seriously because that possibility, because of that paternity uncertainty. | |
| Yeah, from an evolutionary biology standpoint, the worst thing a male can do is give his resources to an offspring that's not his. | |
| And the worst thing that a female can do is kind of lose the caregiver who can give the resources. | |
| So from a purely evolutionary biology standpoint, obviously society has evolved to be not just about that, but that still drives our actions. | |
| Right. | |
| I don't understand the concept of being a dating coach without being married. | |
| Like, what is your credentials to be telling people how they should date? | |
| My psych degree. | |
| And then the actual fact that you had to take a course, you have to take like a two-month course on becoming a certified relationship coach. | |
| And there's a science to it. | |
| So it makes no sense. | |
| I hate when people say that. | |
| You don't have to be something or in something in order to talk about what the science reveals about. | |
| No, I agree with that. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So that's that. | |
| You just answered your own question. | |
| Okay. | |
| How many women have you dated that have taken your course? | |
| That have taken my course? | |
| Have you ever dated a woman that is paid to take your course for coaching? | |
| You should brought it into the syllabus. | |
| Yeah, that's what I can't trust. | |
| You have to date me at the end. | |
| That's so weird. | |
| No, but I have had clients who are attracted to me, but I've never dated any of my clients. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, sorry, just going back to just clarifying how you would cancel a woman, just kind of trying to understand that. | |
| So you were saying that women are driven by their emotions, but in the sense where you see and she sees that she's in an unhealthy relationship, she wants to leave. | |
| You want her to leave as her relationship coach, but she's not leaving. | |
| So I guess in that case, it's like, how do you handle that? | |
| It's only so much I can tell you. | |
| It's only so much guidance I can give you because at the end of the day, you're going to make the decisions that you're going to make. | |
| So if you choose that, then at that point, then our personality is a good idea. | |
| So then when the coach can't make you do something. | |
| Yeah, I can only guide you and advise you on what would be the most effective course of action for your sanity. | |
| Yeah, I think we're kind of saying the similar things. | |
| I guess my angle is just that what, so it's how you would advise her is to sort of put herself first and listen to her sort of feeling on what is good for her and try to enact those things. | |
| So in a sense, not listening to her emotions as strongly, but actually acknowledging kind of where her boundaries and priorities are and going after that. | |
| So I think it sounds like we're kind of saying that this is a Yeah, we're saying the same thing. | |
| I'm just saying it's much more difficult in actual reality. | |
| You know, it's easier to tell a woman what she should do versus what she's actually going to do because as I said, I'm not the guy. | |
| I'm not the guy on the other end who, you know, every time she feels that she has the strength to leave, he pulls her back in. | |
| Or he tells her something she wants to hear. | |
| Or he tells her he's going to change. | |
| Or he tells her he's going to stop doing this. | |
| And because she loves him, she wants to believe him. | |
| And the fact that she wants to believe him keeps her invested in the relationship because she believes that at some point he'll change. | |
| See, it becomes what I was talking about earlier with the potential. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like, she sees the potential. | |
| Like, he can change. | |
| So hope is a strong emotion. | |
| See, hope is a really strong emotion. | |
| If that woman has hope for that man, then it's going to be really, really tough to get her out of that. | |
| I want to bring it back really quick to you, Christy. | |
| Then I'm going to go around the table on something. | |
| You said on another show that you do OnlyFans because men aren't doing what they're supposed to. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| Wait, sorry, can you repeat that? | |
| Yeah, you said on another show that you do OnlyFans or you were driven to do OnlyFans because men aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. | |
| Is that a correct correct statement? | |
| Maybe, and I'm not exactly sure if I'm like, there could be two ways that that goes, but I think that girl, like if we were being taught to raise, like, we were being taught traditional values opposed to being taught feminism, then women would get like married and people will just be getting married younger. | |
| And not do what? | |
| Not have an OnlyFans? | |
| Not have a job. | |
| Like the olden days. | |
| Well, you've kind of just walked yourself into. | |
| No, it's like if we were because they like are forcing like this feminist and like liberal stuff and it's like normalized now. | |
| But if this were like the olden days, it's like you get married young and the man goes to work and the female stays home with the kids and that's what I believe in, but that's just not how our society is anymore, which is a shame that it is. | |
| But a guy could be doing everything that he's supposed to do. | |
| Like if that's your standard, but not make a million dollars a year, you said that's still not enough then for you to quit. | |
| Well, I'm just saying that I don't see myself quitting in the future. | |
| Why do you want someone to do everything for you? | |
| Why do I want someone to do everything for you? | |
| How do I want someone to do everything for me? | |
| Well, you want to be the traditional, I don't want to have to work, I don't want to have to do any of that. | |
| Why do you want? | |
| I believe that men and women are not. | |
| We are equally as important, but we are not equally the same. | |
| A man's strengths and a woman's strengths are completely different. | |
| A woman's strengths are the equivalent to a man's weaknesses, and a man's strengths are the equivalent to a woman's weaknesses. | |
| And that's why together we make a whole. | |
| That's why we mate in the first place. | |
| Should you be seen and not spoken to? | |
| Or not speak rather? | |
| Like seen and not heard? | |
| That type of thing? | |
| Like, because that's the traditional mindset in a marriage. | |
| Like, the woman stands there and looks pretty. | |
| Is that what you mean by a traditional marriage? | |
| Because I would think if I was a woman, that that's shit. | |
| No, I think I just explained it. | |
| I mean that the woman is supposed to be the caretaker and the man is supposed to be the provider. | |
| And I think that's how it sounds like you and your wife work. | |
| But we work 50-50 on everything. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We look after our son 50-50 on everything. | |
| And I feel like that is absolutely, without a doubt, the best way to live it. | |
| And I think there's a recent stat or study or whatever came out about millennial fathers are spending something like 81% more time with their kids than ever before. | |
| And that creates a whole generation of better young people, be it boys or girls. | |
| It makes them a whole lot better. | |
| And I think mixing it up in the family household is such an important thing to do. | |
| There's nothing wrong with staying at home and cooking and cleaning and all those type of things. | |
| But as long as your husband pulls his weight, that is so important. | |
| Because otherwise you start to resent each other. | |
| Oh, I have to go to work all day. | |
| Oh, I have to clean all day. | |
| I'm not arguing against fathers being in the home. | |
| I think fathers should be in the home. | |
| No, no, no, that's not what I said. | |
| That's not what I mean. | |
| That's not what I mean at all. | |
| I know, but I think you're just like. | |
| What? | |
| What am I doing? | |
| I don't know what you're trying to get at that, like, it's so. | |
| No, I just don't think that you actually want to be completely taken care of. | |
| I don't think anyone wants that. | |
| I think you lose a place in life when you do that. | |
| You don't actually, you lay on your deathbed and go, fuck, well, I'm glad I, you know, got Cartier jewelry bought for me. | |
| Where's the fun in that? | |
| Where's the happiness in that? | |
| You've got to make something for yourself. | |
| Wait, so do you object to households where the husband is the sole breadwinner? | |
| No, not at all, because sometimes it's because I'm the sole breadwinner. | |
| Sometimes it's a financial decision. | |
| But you still got to have something that you're working on. | |
| But you were saying everything's like 50-50. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But are you talking about finances or? | |
| No, not so much finances. | |
| I am the sole breadwinner, but my wife is involved in creating the videos. | |
| Oh, well, she's involved in your business. | |
| Yeah, she's involved in your business. | |
| She helps with like editing. | |
| She has her own business that she works on. | |
| She helps with basically come out with video ideas. | |
| She's written jokes for me in the past. | |
| Sometimes the jokes are. | |
| So she's like involved in your investment. | |
| She's involved. | |
| And she sells the merch after shows. | |
| She does all of those type of things. | |
| And I love that we do that together. | |
| And I'm completely fine with that. | |
| And I want my husband to be the sole breadwinner, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do things with him. | |
| Like I would completely make businesses with him and stuff. | |
| I like the entrepreneurial mindset. | |
| It's just like I would go into real estate or create a business or something, but I'm not going to be like the leader of taking charge of that business. | |
| I'll play a role in that, but my main goal will be to be a mom. | |
| Wait, there's nothing wrong with that. | |
| I got a question for the whole panel here. | |
| First off, just show of hands, who here wants to be married, have a husband one day? | |
| Or a wife, I guess. | |
| A wife or not, you know, because we do have tight marriage. | |
| I do have two. | |
| So all the girls want to get married, correct? | |
| Wait, you're engaged, but nobody here is married except for you, correct? | |
| Question for the ladies. | |
| Do you take your husband's last name in marriage? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't want to take my husband's last name unless it's Trump or Kennedy. | |
| Cause mine is such a good one and it's, it's really like, this is another fact. | |
| Mine is such a good one. | |
| That is not traditional. | |
| I know, but that is not traditional. | |
| just really my last name's like i just really like my last name i know i know that's not traditional but traditional woman by the way she won't take her husband's last name i'm not I'm not saying I definitely won't, but like, I don't, I worry that my husband's last name is going to be something that I don't want. | |
| And I don't want to want it, though, because it doesn't sound good. | |
| Okay, here, let's go around the table. | |
| Let's go around the table. | |
| Would you take your husband's last name? | |
| I would. | |
| I don't feel strongly about it one way or the other way. | |
| If he felt really strongly about it and it was important for him, I would totally do it. | |
| But otherwise, it just feels like a lot of paperwork and hassle to go through changing everything. | |
| Well, okay, like I guess the other component of this is like he wants the kids to have his last name too. | |
| I mean, they have to have a last name, so it's probably more likely to be his last name than mine. | |
| So I'm totally fine. | |
| Well, I mean, that sort of thing is negotiated. | |
| I mean, it doesn't strike me as something that's traditional, but it is something that is negotiated. | |
| Kelly, what about you? | |
| I want to hyphenate. | |
| Kelly. | |
| Because I love my last name. | |
| Everyone calls me by my first last name. | |
| That's like my nickname. | |
| What's your last name? | |
| Lou. | |
| So my name is Kelly Lou. | |
| Kelly Lou. | |
| It's like fun to say, you know? | |
| So, like, and my boyfriend's last name is Murray, so it's going to be Kelly Lou Murray. | |
| Oh, hyphenated? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you want him to hyphenate too? | |
| No, no. | |
| What about for the kids? | |
| They can just have his. | |
| I don't care. | |
| It's just the fact that I. | |
| And then I also have my last name tattooed on my back. | |
| So it's like, you know, but like. | |
| Kind of committed. | |
| I do not. | |
| I really strongly genuinely love. | |
| Like, everyone calls it. | |
| My manager calls me that. | |
| Like, everyone calls me like Kelly Lou. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know, it's like, my name's just Kelly. | |
| It's kind of boring. | |
| Like, oh, hey, Kelly Lou. | |
| Like, that sounds better than just Kelly. | |
| A lot of people call me like with my last name, too. | |
| Wait, man. | |
| I absolutely want Frankie's last name. | |
| You want Frankie's last name? | |
| I didn't know. | |
| Are there any negatives to having? | |
| Well, I mean, just that it takes a bit of time to, you know, you got to go to the courthouse, get your name changed. | |
| It costs a little bit of money. | |
| Then there's some time. | |
| You got to get your credit cards changed, various. | |
| I'd do all of that to have Frankie's. | |
| But it's like, it takes like a day of work, a day or two of work, I think. | |
| I don't think. | |
| What's that? | |
| He can do the work and the paperwork. | |
| He can do the work. | |
| He'll do the filing. | |
| Alex, what about you? | |
| When I get married, I absolutely want to take a guy's last name. | |
| And I think that is the ultimate traditional thing to do because women, it's tradition and it's important because women have babies, right? | |
| We physically can say, like, this is my child, and there's proof physically. | |
| But the only thing that a guy can do is to give that child his last name. | |
| And so women have babies, guys have, sorry, yeah. | |
| Women have babies, guys have maybes, unless they're giving that child their last name. | |
| They are pledging to protect, to provide, and be there. | |
| And so I definitely want his last name and I want my kids to have his last name. | |
| I want the same name as my kids. | |
| Do you guys hyphenate or did she take your last name? | |
| No, she took mine. | |
| Well, if she wants to get paid every week, then yeah, she has to. | |
| It is 2023. | |
| Men can have children too as well. | |
| So I just like to add that in there. | |
| I think it's important because it's, I don't know, if you look into the crux of it, like it's actually not that important. | |
| And you start to really nail down and go, okay, why do we want that? | |
| Why do we want it? | |
| But it is tradition. | |
| And I like traditional thinking. | |
| Just for the sake of argument, so say you were in a household where the female earned more money and was the head of household. | |
| In that case, could an argument be made for the family to take the female's last name? | |
| So is this truly like who is head of the household or is it more likely to be a huge difference? | |
| I think who is stronger. | |
| Like in a bench press? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because my wife can bench press more than me. | |
| So it's just like a man who likes more masculine women. | |
| If she's got a bigger clip than my dick is, then she can take. | |
| What? | |
| Where people take the woman's last name or is that just like simple? | |
| I've had a couple who did that. | |
| Listen up. | |
| What do you think? | |
| Would you, let's say you were going to marry a girl and she's like, I'd like to hyphenate. | |
| No go. | |
| No, we ain't hyphenate shit. | |
| No, there you go. | |
| No hyphenating. | |
| No hyphenate shit. | |
| No hyphenating. | |
| Zero hyphenating. | |
| See, here's the thing. | |
| Here's the problem. | |
| Is that offensive? | |
| If a girl wanted to hyphenate? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think I did. | |
| My name is so short already. | |
| And even with Kelly Murray, that doesn't sound as good. | |
| But I think that's like saying when a girl is. | |
| I think you were traditional. | |
| Is that not? | |
| I mean, I don't care if I want my kids to have his last name, but it's like, it's like my middle name. | |
| I just think when a woman refuses to get rid of her last name entirely, even with a hyphen, you're saying like you're not fully willing to let him lead, commit, and you're wanting to keep a part of yourself. | |
| When you get married, you're supposed to become one, and then the man is supposed to be the leader and the head of the house. | |
| I think when we keep our last name, you have to love him so bad to get that last name. | |
| I don't want to do that to my kids if it's really, really bad. | |
| You don't want to give it to your kids, but you'll get it. | |
| His last name is bad. | |
| The kids are getting your name. | |
| I really like my name. | |
| It depends on what my future husband's last name is. | |
| Trump or Kelly. | |
| I would, I always thought like I'd end up giving my kids all the same middle name, which would be my last name. | |
| And then like, hopefully, they could go by kind of more their first and middle name if it was like a bad last name for them. | |
| But it could be like on their personal life. | |
| I don't really have a dog in this fight because, I mean, it's possible I could get married. | |
| Maybe. | |
| I could possible. | |
| Maybe. | |
| I think it's unlikely. | |
| How old are you? | |
| 34. | |
| You'll get married. | |
| I'm not married. | |
| Someone's going to turn out one day and you just get just going to rock your world. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They'll rock you well. | |
| Yeah, that's my body. | |
| But if, okay, if I were to get married, I would want to use my last name, certainly for the kids. | |
| I think the problem with hyphenation, especially with the kids, long term, just on a practical level, you cannot, like, let's assume everybody started hyphenating. | |
| You can't do it because then what you, like two people with hyphenated last names, they get married, then they got four last names all of a sudden. | |
| Then this shit is exponential, son. | |
| It's going to be like long ass last names. | |
| Then it's eight. | |
| Then it's what? | |
| 16. | |
| But does some culture? | |
| Some coaches do that. | |
| Like it's people who are born and they name their kids like these long ass names and they'll be like seven or eight names. | |
| Hispanics. | |
| Yeah, Hispanics, Africans. | |
| But just because I hyphenate the last name, does that mean my kids? | |
| Yeah, like you don't necessarily have to give it to your kids. | |
| Yeah, I think that's not as bad. | |
| But like when it comes to the kids, you know. | |
| Because I wouldn't want my kids to be last name to be mine and his. | |
| I would just want it to be his. | |
| I like that name. | |
| But she wants to keep her name. | |
| I've never heard that before. | |
| I like that. | |
| I don't think that matters. | |
| I don't care. | |
| But you just add it on. | |
| Yeah, it's just like, you know, I think that's how a lot of people do what you say, so like a lot of people don't make their kids. | |
| Yeah, my mom, she hyphenes. | |
| But for the most part, like on her marriage license is her name hyphenated my stepdad's name. | |
| But wherever she goes, she goes by his name. | |
| Like she says, fuck her name. | |
| She goes by his last name. | |
| I'm just, for me, I'm very, very, I'm pretty, pretty against getting married. | |
| I'm on the fence with it. | |
| So if you're trying to convince me as my future wife to get married, you got to take the last name. | |
| You want me to do this traditional marriage thing? | |
| You got to take the last name. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| Changing the last name is so cultural too because there's other cultures that are much more paternalistic where name changing isn't a thing. | |
| So this feeling of like, if you aren't truly invested in the relationship, you don't want to be my woman. | |
| This is America. | |
| You can't change my name. | |
| That's true. | |
| We're in America. | |
| That's true, but I'm just saying that this family. | |
| I don't want to change their names. | |
| Brian. | |
| Okay, go ahead. | |
| Let's calm down. | |
| I'm just saying it's not in the families. | |
| They don't change their name. | |
| Like, they just add it. | |
| And some coaches. | |
| I'm not saying that's for, like, you might get a girl super, like, I'm down for my family. | |
| We had this name in our family for like years, but for you, I'll change it. | |
| Word. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah, it's, I'm not. | |
| Like, we're not saying it's impossible. | |
| Okay. | |
| Brian, I think you're going to get married at like 39. | |
| It's going to be like a big news story. | |
| I know. | |
| It's going to just be all over the tablet. | |
| It's going to hit you like out of nowhere. | |
| It's going to randomly happen. | |
| You're going to be like, he'll wear a plaid tucks, a plaid flannel tucks. | |
| Stop, burn. | |
| For her, a white flannel. | |
| I think in order for me to actually consider marriage, she would have to outearn me. | |
| think like she would have to out-earn me that's you don't want you don't want a broke girl Huh? | |
| You don't want a broke girl? | |
| I mean, for a partner, I would date a broke girl, I guess. | |
| If for marriage you want marriage, it's very cond of you, Brian. | |
| Very kind of you. | |
| You're very generous. | |
| You have very normal. | |
| What's your ballpark range? | |
| Like, you're saying she has to make over more than you. | |
| For marriage, it's so beta to me to be like a guy to be that scared of women and like marriage. | |
| Bro, it's not beta. | |
| It's the most gangster shit you can do. | |
| Wait, wait, hold on. | |
| To be like smart about your money. | |
| It's like always thinking every woman is out to get you and manipulate you. | |
| Like, that is beta shit. | |
| It's not beta. | |
| It's not, no, it's smart. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| It's smart. | |
| It's probably smart, but I'm confused because you guys are always arguing that women who make more won't want a guy who makes less, but you're saying you want the woman who makes more. | |
| What? | |
| Play your math. | |
| Yeah, I was like, I don't think you're saying you necessarily want a woman who makes more. | |
| You'd only marry a woman who makes more. | |
| For me to get married, I think she's got to make more. | |
| Kelly's children are going to have the last name Lou Marie Ann King, Smith Hodgson. | |
| It's not Marie. | |
| Well, I think Kelly said that she's cool with her kids having the father's last name. | |
| I want them to have, I don't want them to, I don't want them to have my last name. | |
| Yeah, no. | |
| Yo, Bender the Offender. | |
| Thank you for the TTS. | |
| Yeah, I would say when it comes to marriage, she's got to make more than me. | |
| She's got to outer me. | |
| Oh, of course, Alex runs away when I'm about to respond to her. | |
| Sorry. | |
| It's okay. | |
| Apology accepted. | |
| Well, do we have any chats? | |
| We don't have any chats. | |
| Well, I'll wait to respond until she's. | |
| Where did Madison go? | |
| Madison? | |
| It's Madison? | |
| Just over there. | |
| She's back here. | |
| What are you doing back there, Madison? | |
| You're eating? | |
| What is that? | |
| Is that a taco? | |
| It's a turkey bath. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| What did I have? | |
| You had something that you mentioned in the pre-show notes. | |
| You do not like feminism. | |
| No. | |
| I don't like it either. | |
| Is that true? | |
| Feminism is a lie. | |
| Hey, feminism. | |
| That was a me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, I think it's more complicated than that. | |
| I think feminism, depending on kind of what wave and sort of the approach, can kind of give a lot of faulty ideas that are sort of deviating so far from who we are biologically and kind of how we are wired that it's sort of this unrealistic goal that we should be trying to strive for that I don't think really makes anyone happy. | |
| Sure. | |
| Yeah, I want to agree. | |
| Like feminism, I feel for like a lot of women, it gives them excuses. | |
| Like I'm doing this because I'm living in my feminism. | |
| I'm pro-feminist because I want to do X, Y, and Z. | |
| I did this because I'm a feminist. | |
| Like you can't tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm a feminist. | |
| Equal pay because I'm a feminist. | |
| Like all that. | |
| I feel like it's more excuses. | |
| I feel like it's more trying to form women to, I don't want to say like make bad choices, but like try and defend their choices by using it. | |
| Well, feminism also has evolved a lot over the times because initially it was like females want the same rights. | |
| Obviously we want the right to vote and we want to be treated the same. | |
| And then somehow it evolved into everything a man can do a woman can do just as well. | |
| And it's like, all right, like you can, you can think about it. | |
| And now you're not going downstairs and someone tries to rob your house. | |
| I'm going to be like, bait, go. | |
| So yeah, I think the initial intent was obviously good, but it's evolved into something that was good. | |
| You said that males and females are biologically different. | |
| I agree with you, obviously. | |
| You said modern-day feminists seem to not like the idea that men and women are biologically different. | |
| And you said there's a lot of data to back that up. | |
| And you said you're a neurologist, correct? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so is that kind of like within the purview of your field of study? | |
| I think so. | |
| I think I read a book or two saying that XX and XY have a few differences and kind of what they can do. | |
| It checks out. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| And wait, so you're a medical doctor. | |
| Do you work in a hospital? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you do neurology. | |
| Correct. | |
| And kind of give us a little scope about what, you know. | |
| what that entails? | |
| Yeah, in a hospital setting. | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| I do mostly outpatients, so more in the clinic, but some inpatient work as well. | |
| So my sub-specialty is movement disorders, so that's mostly focused on people with tremors and Parkinson's. | |
| But, you know, it also entails some somatization disorders where there's sort of functional and visible movements that aren't from a neurologic basis, but more from a psychologic basis, things like anxiety and depression. | |
| So we look at neurotransmitters a lot. | |
| That's sort of part of Parkinson's as well, where we're looking at the dopamine reward systems, which drive both human behavior in terms of healthy human behavior and negative human behavior like addiction. | |
| So yeah, a little bit of everything. | |
| Sure, can I just quickly, on the topic of movement disorders, I have paratismal dyskinesia. | |
| Oh. | |
| Do you know what that is? | |
| Basically what happens is I lose control of my eyes, my eyes turn to here, my neck turns and I go blind in one eye. | |
| It's sort of like in the same family of epilepsy, which is a really easy way to describe it. | |
| But I've had those since I was about 19 or so. | |
| Wow. | |
| And you know, are they attacks? | |
| Like, constant, right? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| No, it's just one. | |
| I'm on medication for it. | |
| I take an anti-seizure medication. | |
| And the neurologist I saw, he basically said, this could work. | |
| Maybe it doesn't. | |
| Not too sure. | |
| Carbomaspine? | |
| Yeah, yes, yes. | |
| Tegretoll, some people call it. | |
| And it was very interesting because I used to play a sport called Rugby League, and that's when they started happening. | |
| It's a big collision sport. | |
| So that would happen. | |
| I would run into someone. | |
| A big collision would happen. | |
| I'd lose control of my eyes. | |
| I'd go blind. | |
| It was a whole thing. | |
| Really, really crazy. | |
| And that's what they said. | |
| It's a movement disorder. | |
| I started a ketogen diet because of it. | |
| And it actually helped it. | |
| Which is very interesting. | |
| Here's a rugby ball. | |
| Almost. | |
| Rugby league. | |
| We're talking about here. | |
| This is a very different sport. | |
| Different ball, too. | |
| Wait, rugby league. | |
| Okay. | |
| Rugby league. | |
| And rugby union. | |
| No, this is for rugby union. | |
| Yeah, this is a rugby union. | |
| You don't use this kind of ball in rugby league? | |
| Very, very similar, but very different as well. | |
| It's like comparing cricket with baseball. | |
| Okay, got it. | |
| So they're sort of ball games, but they're different. | |
| All right. | |
| And then you have AFL. | |
| Yeah, that's just not fair. | |
| That's a lot. | |
| It's a bit different, thank you. | |
| Unless you want to hold on to it. | |
| It's good to hold what we call a footy. | |
| All right, you can hold on to it if you're working. | |
| Very good. | |
| It's nice. | |
| It's been a long time. | |
| Yeah, very interesting. | |
| Yeah, cool. | |
| Thanks for sharing. | |
| You're very welcome. | |
| Can you fix me? | |
| I'm all fucked up. | |
| He's all fucked up. | |
| Looks like you're already on the best medication for it. | |
| Yeah, I'm on. | |
| All right. | |
| Wait. | |
| So, okay, so you work in a hospital. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Doesn't it go down in the hospital when it comes to dating? | |
| Like, nurses, doctors, PAs, they've got to be. | |
| Like scrubs all over the place. | |
| Yeah, sometimes, you know, I would say that in training that was more common. | |
| So, I mean, medical training is forever, right? | |
| So you have college and then med school and residency and then like subspecialty training. | |
| So it's sort of just like college extended. | |
| So yeah, there was a lot of training, a lot of interdating both between like doctors and nurses and between doctors and doctors. | |
| Do you date a doctor? | |
| You said you're in a relationship for two years, is it? | |
| I don't currently know. | |
| Huh? | |
| I don't currently know. | |
| Oh, he's not a doctor. | |
| Okay. | |
| Question. | |
| Or wait, another question. | |
| Do the female doctors get upset that the male doctors fuck with the nurses? | |
| You know? | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah, this is a great question. | |
| So this does come up because the male doctors will get a lot of attention from the nurses, from the female nurses. | |
| And generally speaking, that is a huge asset. | |
| So a lot of the female nurses are sort of looking for the new batch of residents and the new doctors to sort of chase after and see if they can get in relationships. | |
| Why is that though? | |
| Like, why do they just go? | |
| Yeah. | |
| come they're so set on like going for the doctor well you know i think i mean i get like you know i get I get why. | |
| I get the idea. | |
| But are like the nurses really just waiting in there for the next doctor to come in? | |
| Not all nurses. | |
| And, you know, this is no detractment at nurses by any means. | |
| I think doctors have a lot to offer. | |
| You know, doctors are high earners. | |
| They're probably relatively intelligent people. | |
| Maybe they're kind of empathetic. | |
| So, you know, I think there's valid qualities that would make someone kind of pursue that. | |
| Who do you guys think cheat more? | |
| Who cheats more? | |
| Medical professionals or NBA players? | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Like athletes, like professional athletes or healthcare professionals? | |
| Who do you think cheats are? | |
| Probably athletes. | |
| Probably athletes. | |
| They get way more attention excuse me. | |
| I heard nurse infidelity amongst nurses is insane. | |
| And I actually think, well, you had a question though. | |
| No, I was just trying to get to the meat of the question you're asking. | |
| Oh, I was just curious. | |
| You're in the field in that. | |
| Well, I was kind of leading into, and I was going to ask the panelists, what the panel thinks are some red flag jobs in a potential partner. | |
| Because I was going to say nurses. | |
| Why would you say nurses? | |
| Nurses a little bit of a red flag. | |
| Why would you say nurses? | |
| Because they get down, son. | |
| They get, but I'm just saying, like, here's the thing, right? | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| Nurses, it can be a high-stress job. | |
| There's a lot of attractive men around. | |
| Stress, janitor's closet. | |
| I'm sure you got stories. | |
| People be fucking in the hospital. | |
| I don't got any of those stories. | |
| You don't got any stories? | |
| I don't get those stories. | |
| It's not exactly like Scrubs. | |
| I mean, Scrubs is a little bit exaggerated. | |
| I'm just, okay, I just, I think nurses, it's kind of a red flag. | |
| good at caretaking though you know they're they're honestly though Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, they would. | |
| I think nurses are way more telling than doctors are. | |
| Well, okay. | |
| I don't want to paint with a broad brush here. | |
| Of course. | |
| But like, there's definitely nurses who are very, you know, as you said, they're empathetic or caring, nurturing caretakers. | |
| But I don't know, some of them, not so much. | |
| Not so much. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| FDG, thank you for the 50 gift. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| You've had some bad experience with nurses, it sounds like. | |
| I've dated a couple nurses. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's a little something, there's a little something off, you know. | |
| Interesting. | |
| A little something. | |
| Tell us more. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's just a stressful job for starters. | |
| I mean, it depends what kind of work they're doing. | |
| But I think one of the big things is there's a lot of room for them to meet a lot of high status men. | |
| So if you're an average guy and you're dating a nurse, like she's going to be moving in rooms with like pretty high status guys. | |
| And they actually, I think they released a study recently, Nick. | |
| I don't know if you can search it up. | |
| That infidelity among nurses is very high. | |
| Interesting. | |
| That's news to me. | |
| I didn't know that was like a clear. | |
| The highest rates of infidelity is amongst nurses. | |
| And women said the doctors was higher. | |
| But that was based off a study of 367 individuals. | |
| Well, I that's that's sufficient. | |
| Well, I know that like alcoholism rates amongst 67 is sufficient. | |
| It's the case, right? | |
| I think alcoholism among physicians, doctors, it's pretty high. | |
| It's pretty high. | |
| You know, it's a high-end stuff. | |
| I have a lot of clients that are doctors. | |
| You've got female clients. | |
| It's also high among male clients that are male clients too, okay? | |
| Cops and firefighters, too, cheat a lot. | |
| Well, any stressful job, definitely like rates of alcoholism and infidelity, I think, are increased. | |
| Lawyers drink quite a bit. | |
| I just want to find someone who's doing it. | |
| That's all they're doing. | |
| So red flag jobs in guys and girls. | |
| Maybe we can go around the table on this, Christy. | |
| Well, everyone here obviously thinks my job is red flags. | |
| What? | |
| Where'd you get that idea? | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| It's nuts. | |
| But I mean, I obviously don't think it's a red flag job. | |
| What is? | |
| What would be a red flag job for me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like a garbage man. | |
| What? | |
| No, that's exactly who I want to marry. | |
| Stop it. | |
| So I wouldn't have to. | |
| Wait, do you? | |
| You are so wrong on this. | |
| Wait, Alex, you would, I think it's a respectful career. | |
| No, I absolutely do. | |
| I think the blue color meant, so that's a green flag for me. | |
| As guys that work those really blue collar jobs. | |
| And also, clearly you haven't looked on TikTok. | |
| There's so many viral TikToks. | |
| Garbage guys are so sweet with kids in the neighborhood. | |
| The little kids always love when the garbage man comes. | |
| They're always super caring. | |
| They love kids. | |
| Anyway, that is such a green flag job to me because they're hardworking. | |
| They're go-getters. | |
| Pick up a half of shit you leave behind. | |
| Garbage man. | |
| Well, what's like you, your dream man? | |
| What does he do? | |
| A real estate developer. | |
| That'd be a good go at you. | |
| I have two real estate licenses. | |
| So because you need them for different states. | |
| So I'm New York and New Jersey, which is where I'm from. | |
| So you need them. | |
| Yeah, every state. | |
| But I also have my interior design and architecture degree. | |
| So like you're saying of how you and your wife work together on things like a real estate developer, like we could make a really good job. | |
| Wait, okay, let's bring it back to the conversation though. | |
| So garbage man is red flag. | |
| I've never like thought about it, but yeah, I don't like, I don't really see that. | |
| What about a McDonald's worker? | |
| Like a cashier with McDonald's. | |
| I'm not saying anything bad about a McDonald's in my future. | |
| Plumber? | |
| I don't see that in my future either. | |
| It's not, it's not, maybe it's not a red flag job. | |
| It's just not who I see. | |
| It doesn't align with your supervisor. | |
| That's what all the money is, though, Christy. | |
| The plumbers, the electricians, the lovers, they're making it. | |
| I know. | |
| I just don't see. | |
| I actually just had a plumber at my house the other day. | |
| Was it a plumber? | |
| A plumber? | |
| He was like, Sarah Lake. | |
| He literally had to replace my toilet. | |
| And me and my sister, like, I didn't know this was going to happen. | |
| And my sister was visiting and we were going to the pool because I live in Miami. | |
| And then he texted me, thank you for the amazing views. | |
| Because he saw us leave with our bathing suits on. | |
| And I said, did you use my balcony? | |
| Because I have amazing views off my balcony. | |
| But so I did just get hit on by a plumber. | |
| He might even watch us. | |
| Maybe I'll send him the link. | |
| But I he actually seemed pretty cool, but I just not. | |
| What if I really turn it down? | |
| I turned it down. | |
| What about you? | |
| Any red flag careers or jobs? | |
| Like any type of performer? | |
| Performer? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like musicians, OnlyFans. | |
| Well, because they attract a lot of attention. | |
| You don't want a guy who attracts a lot of attention. | |
| I mean, I wouldn't say I wouldn't want one. | |
| I'm just saying anyone. | |
| It's more likely to have chicks, other women around. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Any red flag jobs? | |
| I can't think of anything specific that's red flag, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Any guy in the military. | |
| Oh, you're going to get dragged for that one. | |
| I know. | |
| But y'all just have so much time to go out and you're in another country sometimes. | |
| For years. | |
| You're there for years. | |
| I don't know what you're doing out there. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| I hear a lot of men that in the military end up cheating on their women back home. | |
| I hear a lot of women who are not women for each other with each other. | |
| Definitely will go both ways. | |
| But they probably have an understanding. | |
| I don't know about that, but Madison, any red flag jobs? | |
| A sex worker. | |
| Okay. | |
| I would say red flag jobs for me, a guy, would be anything that requires him being like a center of attention. | |
| So politician running for office, actor, singer, any type of. | |
| Yeah, like because my job, my job requires some of that. | |
| Oh, I thought you said Canadian. | |
| I think there would be natural competition. | |
| I think it would be hard. | |
| I think with my job, I do need a guy that prefers more to be like behind the scenes. | |
| Not that I want him to be in that way. | |
| I'm just saying, like, if there was a competition for attention and things like that, I think that could be bad. | |
| Competition for attention. | |
| Like Beth for you. | |
| Because you do content creation, like you're out there. | |
| How'd you define yourself? | |
| Would you consider yourself like a political pundit? | |
| Yeah, well, so I work in the conservative media space and I host a podcast and I do a lot of public speaking and things like that. | |
| So I can just see how if a guy was doing the same type of thing, it just might be competitive or difficult for them. | |
| But couldn't that be like power cup? | |
| It could. | |
| If I'm trying to think of like a single conservative guy who they're all married. | |
| I was thinking like Ben Shapiro, if he was single, if he was single, would you potentially go for Ben Shapiro? | |
| It's just hard. | |
| It would be hard. | |
| I think that would create a more difficult thing. | |
| Is he cute? | |
| I think Matt Walsh is super handsome, but he is married. | |
| He is married. | |
| is married trying to think of but yeah i would i think michael knolls all these guys michael knolls is also super cute And also, he's married. | |
| But one thing about Michael Knowles, he smokes cigars a lot. | |
| And I've always said I think that is one of the biggest turn-ons is a guy that smokes cigars. | |
| Oh, I love cigarettes. | |
| Michael Knowles. | |
| Maybe that's why my. | |
| You smoke cigars? | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| I think it's the cigar that you smoke. | |
| Maybe that's why. | |
| Do you smoke cigars? | |
| Not a lot. | |
| Do you smoke cigarettes too? | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| But I do like a cigar every now and then. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do you smoke weed? | |
| No. | |
| Meth? | |
| Never done it. | |
| Just curious. | |
| No. | |
| Just keep it again. | |
| Isaac, any red flag. | |
| Uber Eights. | |
| If they do Uber Eighths. | |
| Uber Eats. | |
| I'm fucking screaming. | |
| No. | |
| What about just regular Uber? | |
| Uber Shakespeare. | |
| Regular Uber? | |
| Maybe. | |
| What about DoorDash? | |
| DoorDash? | |
| You're in. | |
| But who? | |
| Closemates. | |
| Grubhub. | |
| We don't have Grubhub in Australia, but I'll do that. | |
| We have menu log. | |
| Do you have menu log? | |
| No, no. | |
| No. | |
| Or a comedian. | |
| Comedians are notorious for having extreme mental health disorders. | |
| You're coming through. | |
| Yeah, they're all insane. | |
| Although Tom Segura and Christina Pasiski do it very, very well. | |
| They're at cutter goals. | |
| They are. | |
| They are. | |
| So, yeah, anyone who is an Uber Eats delivery driver, get away from me. | |
| But why? | |
| Why? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I used to deliver pizzas when I was a kid, and I stank when I came home. | |
| I smelled like cheese and mushrooms. | |
| I don't want my girl coming to bed smelling like cheese and mushrooms. | |
| Well then see anybody like that works in a restaurant would that just be like a turnoff for you? | |
| Smelly yeah. | |
| I would say even besides smelly I would say anybody who is trying to make a career out of what is supposed to be a minimum wage job turn off and red flag for a job because those jobs are meant to be temporary They're not supposed to be careers and so if that is your full potential as a man that's a turnoff to me I was just joking okay because like at Nordstrom So the sales associate they get commission so what if like their commission is really good? | |
| Does that make a difference? | |
| I guess it would a little bit but I would be really weary of commission-based jobs because then it's like your income is never guaranteed. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So like during the pandemic, for example, if you're working a commission-based job, how many people weren't able to be face-to-face and selling? | |
| And that would just make me nervous. | |
| There's a lot of people like that have clientele who, like they are consistently like. | |
| There's this, I know this guy. | |
| He they're making a lot of money just selling designer shoes. | |
| Like they make they, their paychecks can be close to almost 10,000 sometimes. | |
| But it probably also depends on the market, like it depends on who it is. | |
| I was just saying, like would that matter? | |
| Like is that, would that make a difference for you? | |
| Yeah, I would be really weary of it. | |
| I would be really weary of it that he would, he could get be someone that could guarantee that he could provide for me and a family, whatever you guys want, because ideally I would like to step away and not be working full-time once I have kids, like be working in a very small capacity. | |
| So he'd have to be making a certain amount to take care of a family. | |
| How much do you think? | |
| What do you? | |
| What's your like? | |
| I think it's completely depends on where in the country we're living. | |
| If it's California, he's probably got to be making a higher earner. | |
| Yes okay, does he have? | |
| Does your guy have to make as at least as much as you or more? | |
| Um no, I don't care about that. | |
| I care whatever the number is that's going to be able to properly afford for having a family and me being able to be a stay-at-home mom. | |
| Okay, so you. | |
| So if he's making $90,000 a year but we live in Alabama, for example, then I'm fine with that because you can afford that there, but if he was making $90,000 a year in LA, no. | |
| So once you start having kids, then you like you're fine to work now, but once you have kids, you want him to be the sole income earner. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| Yeah, for sure, I would probably work in a small capacity speaking now, and then, you know, if I was able to just do my podcast and that only requires like one to two hours a week, then that, but I wouldn't want to be working full-time like I am now. | |
| Can I ask, what about if they're like when I was a comedian, when I was coming up through the ranks in comedy, I was making nothing. | |
| What if they're doing that? | |
| What if they're working in a job where okay, they're not making much money, they're delivering whatever just to go against what I said but but they're working on something, they're working on a craft, they're trying to be an entertainer, or they're working on an app, or they're working on whatever. | |
| Is that okay? | |
| I would have said yes if I was in my early 20s and he was also in his early to mid-20s, but now into my 30s. | |
| I wouldn't be okay with that because I wouldn't want to wait around for him to get his stuff together. | |
| If he's 22 and he's pursuing something like that, then yes, and I love the idea of a girl building something with a guy from the ground up when he has nothing, and I think he's more likely to be loyal to you when you're loyal to him when he has nothing to offer. | |
| It's real yeah, it's real, and I think that's what guys look for. | |
| I think that's why guys are weary of getting with a girl once they have everything, because it's like well, why is she actually with me? | |
| So if you are a girl that's in a position I can build something with a guy from the ground up, from the get-go, when he is getting started like that, then that's the best position to be in. | |
| Sure, uh Q. Any red flag jobs in women. | |
| Um, I'll just keep it simple. | |
| Yeah, sex work, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it. | |
| I have a list here of some red flag jobs in women, hairstylist. | |
| You're not a hairstylist, right. | |
| But I do hair. | |
| You do hair, but you're not a hair. | |
| You don't cut hair. | |
| No, I don't. | |
| See, the ones that it's a bit of a barber is what. | |
| Is that what you're doing? | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Like, she cuts hair. | |
| Like, what is the background between cutting hair? | |
| She's going to cut his hair off. | |
| No, just like, because I'm enjoying men's. | |
| You crazy. | |
| No, you. | |
| Just like, as a woman, if you're a hairstylist, you're just crazy. | |
| Why do you think that? | |
| It's just, it's like an it's a thing because hairstylists, women who cut hair, have to listen all day to other women complaining to them. | |
| Not always. | |
| No. | |
| Well, when I do hair, I don't, I'm not really. | |
| Like, we talk. | |
| Like, we're going to talk. | |
| We're going to have a conversation. | |
| Cut hair. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| What's wrong with having a job where women complain to them all day? | |
| Right. | |
| You're saying like, we're listening to what's coming. | |
| I'm listening. | |
| I'm a job where women complain to them all day. | |
| Why does that make it a red flag? | |
| It's like being a therapist. | |
| It's right or a doctor. | |
| I think a job where people complain to you all day has to be taxing to some degree. | |
| It's not always completely. | |
| Honestly, I don't think people are talking like just from my experience from like Brayden or whatever. | |
| You all never heard of this? | |
| No. | |
| Like you complain to your barber? | |
| No. | |
| Right. | |
| So why would you think somebody is complaining that? | |
| It's mostly happy conversation. | |
| Yeah, it's mostly happy. | |
| Especially if I don't know you and I just booked you for the day and I'm trying to see how you do it. | |
| I'm not telling you my deepest, darkest secrets. | |
| I think it's more like the eyelashes. | |
| I feel like that's more where you're talking about. | |
| I feel like it goes both ways because either way, I'm providing you that service. | |
| Whether I'm cutting your hair, braiding your hair, putting a wig on, you're going to talk to me because you're in my chair for so many. | |
| So, so whatever you do, it's a red flag. | |
| But what it's a hairstyle, like gentlemen. | |
| But I'm not mad at you. | |
| I'm just trying to rebuttal it. | |
| Like, you're not, unless you got a real bond with that person, like, you've been going to this person for years. | |
| I'm just saying it's a red flag. | |
| You can try to, you can, you can try to. | |
| So it's like a nail side. | |
| Yeah, like a nail tag. | |
| Nail text or the eyelash extension. | |
| Is that realist? | |
| I think anybody who's kind of in like the beauty industry, it's a little, you know, it's a little like makeup, like a makeup artist, red flag, big red flag, hair, like someone who cuts hair. | |
| You guys have never heard this thing of women who cut hair. | |
| It's like, be careful of hairdressers. | |
| What I'm thinking of it is different how you explain things. | |
| I'm saying how I was thinking about it, because you said women. | |
| I'm like, oh, because she's cutting men's hair. | |
| She's getting men's attention, but you went completely a different way. | |
| No, it's not even that. | |
| It's not. | |
| Like the whole completely different. | |
| Women who cut women's hair, that shit's a red flag. | |
| Trust me on this. | |
| Trust me. | |
| I got some more. | |
| I got some more jobs for you. | |
| Works in HR. | |
| That if she works in HR, HR is where humanity goes to die. | |
| I will say HR is hair. | |
| They really are. | |
| It is the most hot, but they don't care about shit. | |
| That's anything. | |
| HR. | |
| I agree with hairwork. | |
| They'll be like, we agree with you, but because of company policy, this is why we have to let you go. | |
| They're very, they're very like, even outside. | |
| Like, I dated a chick who worked in HR never fucking again. | |
| She was super feminist, just like very like, oh, very triggered and offended by everything. | |
| So HR is bad. | |
| Flight attendant. | |
| Uh-uh. | |
| I can understand that. | |
| Flight attendant, one, they're gone. | |
| Two, they fuck a lot. | |
| Every city they're in, they're, you know. | |
| No, I actually, I can agree on that because I work at an airport and the stories between like. | |
| Did you do hair in an airport? | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| Harris my side job. | |
| Harris is my side job. | |
| Oh, what's your main job? | |
| I work at an airport. | |
| What do you do? | |
| I hate that. | |
| I'm like customer service. | |
| Like, I'm the person who scans. | |
| And I'm at the ticket counter. | |
| Like, I'm checking you in. | |
| No, no. | |
| Southwest? | |
| Delta. | |
| Nice. | |
| I'm thinking huge red. | |
| Put me somewhere good. | |
| No, we love when you guys come through. | |
| Wait, huh? | |
| Like, Australia. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Like, when people come through. | |
| But I'm saying. | |
| I'm not saying flight attendants. | |
| But I'm saying, like, I work at an airport. | |
| So the stories that go on between the pilots and the flight attendants is crazy. | |
| And the pilots, they don't care who you are. | |
| They're just trying to smash. | |
| I have it. | |
| No, like they're in the cockpit. | |
| I don't know about the cockpit, but wherever they land, and then also, it's like they flirt with us. | |
| They flirt with the customer service. | |
| Like the people who are supposed to be scanning the people on, they're flirting with us. | |
| I've had so many. | |
| It goes down in the airport, huh? | |
| It goes down in the airport. | |
| And they have their own, and they have their own little lounge in the airport. | |
| Like while they're waiting on their flight to come in so they could go. | |
| Like they have their own little lounge. | |
| Look, here's what's going through my head when it comes to flight attendants. | |
| How many cities have you been to? | |
| Because here's the thing. | |
| No, I'm not a flight attendant. | |
| No, no, no, I'm not talking about you. | |
| I'm just saying like one of the reasons why I think it's a red flag if a woman's a flight attendant and as a dude, I don't think you should date a flight attendant. | |
| How many cities have you been to? | |
| How many cities have you spent? | |
| Yeah, because it's not on call, but it's like you have a whole schedule planned out already. | |
| And at any minute, they can call you in and be like, we need you to stand in. | |
| So you can say your in-flight might be LA, but last minute they can't find a flight attendant. | |
| You're going to Mexico or something. | |
| It's not even so much about them being gone. | |
| It's about like, okay, because I've been, I'm not on dating apps anymore, but I used to. | |
| And like, I would match with flight attendants and they wanted to meet. | |
| And I'm like, you got to be doing this shit in every single city you're in. | |
| You're fucking a new dude. | |
| Every single city. | |
| How many cities are you in in a year? | |
| Everyone in all those cities are seeing her tender too. | |
| But no, it's an hour cap. | |
| So like it's a they have certain amount of hours. | |
| So they can't like that they can fly. | |
| They just can't be in the air. | |
| They just can't be in the air. | |
| It's like a labor law. | |
| Like they get capped out at so many hours. | |
| And most of them stay domestically. | |
| So most flight attendants, they might just be from international travel nurses. | |
| Or not nurses. | |
| Flight attendants, you know. | |
| Look, they're in a new city. | |
| They're always in the new city. | |
| I'm just saying they'd be fucking in the new city. | |
| I'm not disputing. | |
| I'm just. | |
| Travel nurse. | |
| It's like a nurse, but even worse. | |
| And we get a lot of those nurses. | |
| Travel nurse because they're on assignment. | |
| They're in a fucking city making a shit ton of money for three months. | |
| They want some dude. | |
| And so they've been on assignments in 12 different cities. | |
| They done had fucked a bunch of, like, a dude in every new city. | |
| Travel nurses. | |
| Watch out, gentlemen. | |
| Be careful, gentlemen. | |
| Basically, any career where she travels frequently, obviously sex worker. | |
| Major red flag. | |
| Sorry, Christy. | |
| I would never date you ever in my life. | |
| That's cool. | |
| I don't date sluts, so it's all good. | |
| Yeah, I don't date guys that don't pay for the first date. | |
| I don't. | |
| That's, I mean, I know everyone's able to. | |
| Bro, you wouldn't even really hop about it. | |
| Yeah, if you didn't pay for the first date, you're like, yeah, I don't text you. | |
| If you're not paying, wait, you don't pay for the first date, Brian? | |
| There's some circumstances where I will pay for the first date. | |
| But isn't that a good way to weed out the libs and stuff? | |
| Because I know you don't want to date a feminist lib. | |
| And if she's like, oh, sure, yes, I'll pay because I believe women should pay, whatever. | |
| That is a fair point. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Bender the offender donated $99. | |
| Travel nurses are 304 S on tour. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Not only the stressful job, but they're traveling to their new city. | |
| I mean, for a long-term partner, unless you're going to fucking lock her down in the two months, six weeks, three months that she's on assignment. | |
| Unless she's like, you know, okay, I'll stick around here and get a job. | |
| I don't think six weeks, eight weeks, three months is a long enough time to be dating a chick and for her to like make the decision, okay, I really like this guy. | |
| I'm going to stick in the city. | |
| She's off to the next city. | |
| So long-term, not great. | |
| And well, even short-term, high body count. | |
| So what were you talking about? | |
| A liberal woman is going to be okay with you not paying. | |
| A conservative girl or a libertarian girl is not going to be okay with that. | |
| So if you're forgoing, not offering to pay, then you're only going to attract those girls. | |
| Here's the thing, though, is that if you do pay, liberal women are fine with that too. | |
| Are they? | |
| Liberal women. | |
| Yeah, like on the first date. | |
| Is anyone on the panel a feminist? | |
| Anybody? | |
| Jersey back there? | |
| What? | |
| Are you a devil's advocate? | |
| Are you a feminist man? | |
| Definitely is not. | |
| We had one girl who was going to be on. | |
| I can play a feminist. | |
| No, that'll juice everything up. | |
| No, we don't want to like stage. | |
| That is a good point, but I would say, like, I think even liberal women, like, we've had liberal women on the show, and they're like, yeah, I'd prefer for the guy paid. | |
| So, like, I don't think the paying thing is going to be. | |
| I mean, if you meet somebody on a dating app, I think most people, like, will put their politics and shit. | |
| Do they? | |
| On dating? | |
| Yeah, I really do. | |
| It's the whole sex change. | |
| I do too. | |
| Wow. | |
| Paying your relationship part of it. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| Yep. | |
| I mean, it's been a long time. | |
| And now they want to know if you want kids. | |
| Yo, but look, we talked about the not paying thing on the first date. | |
| Christy, last show, you admitted, despite your claims to being a traditional woman, you admitted you were like, you had multiple talking stages, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Last show, you had multiple talking stages. | |
| And then one of the guys, because you asked what happened to some of them, one of them after this podcast offered me a job. | |
| What? | |
| Like one of the dudes you're talking? | |
| Yeah, he offered me a job. | |
| To be a bedroom acrobat. | |
| He has, no, he has like a luxury car rental company. | |
| So he wants me to like kind of like be like, get him, pay me to, I guess, be like a broker to like get him luxury car clients. | |
| Well, but you had multiple talking stage you were talking to multiple guys. | |
| Yeah, I was mainly talking to two people. | |
| Like I've been on like dates before I left with two people in Miami. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that is precisely one of the reasons. | |
| But they paid for everything. | |
| That's great. | |
| That is precisely one of the reasons why I as a guy don't want to pay on the first date because women are talking to multiple men. | |
| But like also, like, do you know how much money women are spending to get like their hair, their nails, their outfit just to even look good for you on the first date? | |
| That's probably not a problem. | |
| Because a lot of women do it themselves, so that's... | |
| But, I mean, it does cost money to, like, get your nails done, get your hair done, get your eyelashes done, makeup, et cetera. | |
| But you, it's like, but you... | |
| You can't just expect that on a first date and expect a man to be taking you out to like some nice ass restaurant just because you got all pretty, which is what you do every day. | |
| How much money should a man spend on a first date? | |
| $150 around. | |
| I feel like a good, like, if you're going to a sit-down dinner. | |
| U.S. dollars? | |
| Yeah, like, no, I think $80. | |
| Or if it's like a dinner, if it's like a nice, if you're taking me to, if you're going to dinner, like a decent dinner and each get at least one cocktail, $80 to $90. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wait, so are we arguing that it's not that much? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I'm just saying if you're guys, like nowadays with it being so, everything's so expensive now, and it's like if a guy is taking you to a restaurant, like that with drinks and everything, drinks, two entrees, appetizer, like that's a that's gonna be that's gonna be up there. | |
| What do you think, Christy? | |
| How much? | |
| I go on a lot of oyster dates because I love oysters. | |
| Me too. | |
| My favorite. | |
| Yes, I love oysters. | |
| Is that a business run off? | |
| For you? | |
| I don't pay for it. | |
| I don't pay for my dates ever, but yeah, I go on a lot of first dates for oysters. | |
| So I know the bill is pretty expensive because I know oysters are expensive. | |
| Are you chewing or swallowing? | |
| I actually chew them and then I swallow them. | |
| Because I like to really get the same emotion. | |
| Oyster girls are red flags because it's just the most expensive thing. | |
| No, I know. | |
| Oh, they're so good. | |
| And it's such a fun experience to try every single type on the menu and like compare. | |
| Because they're from different places. | |
| They all taste different. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They all taste very different. | |
| And it's a fun activity to like talk about it and compare them. | |
| True. | |
| I don't know. | |
| This whole like women do more or spend more money to get ready. | |
| I've already made this argument before, but a lot of women say they don't wear makeup for men. | |
| They don't do XYZ for men. | |
| So I do. | |
| Okay, well, someone. | |
| I'm going to tell you that right now. | |
| I think it depends on the situation, like where I'm going. | |
| Like if I'm going on a date, yes, for the men. | |
| But if I'm going out or like hanging with the girls, it's not for, you know, it's not for the man. | |
| I think some people just do it to not look like cheat. | |
| Or yeah, or like. | |
| I wake up in the morning. | |
| I just go, that's what I'm dealing with. | |
| Is it? | |
| Okay, fair enough. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| It's just like, do we just tabulate all the ways men and women prepare themselves, not just on the day of, but throughout their entire life? | |
| Like, yeah, I mean, it's like guys pay for dates, girls pay to look good for the guys that want to take them on dates. | |
| Yeah, but guys do things to make themselves look good on the first date, too. | |
| They don't spend nearly as much time or effort or money in doing that. | |
| You're right. | |
| You know what? | |
| I actually agree with you. | |
| I think women shouldn't wear as much makeup as they do. | |
| I don't think they should be so fixated on their physical appearance. | |
| I don't think that they should get plastic surgery and fake tits and lipo and lip fillers and all this sort of. | |
| I agree with you on that. | |
| Yeah, you might get a second date. | |
| Huh? | |
| Might get a second date. | |
| Reduce the makeup and everything else that feels like we can't being catfish. | |
| How many women would be offended, though, if as the guy you said, hey, don't wear, listen, I don't want you to wear any makeup on our date. | |
| Don't wear any makeup. | |
| You can maybe get, you know, take a shower or whatever, but don't wear any makeup. | |
| Honestly, I wouldn't get offended. | |
| Like, Frankie says that all the time. | |
| I honestly take it as a compliment. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but you're dating him. | |
| Like, I'm saying like first date. | |
| Oh, for my first date, I didn't wear makeup. | |
| Okay. | |
| Me and my boyfriend, we went, we did like a sushi date. | |
| This is like when we were first getting together. | |
| Like, I didn't wear makeup. | |
| What if, but here's the thing, though. | |
| What if the guy conceivably spent more getting ready for his first date? | |
| So then, like, under those circumstances, should we're not going to look good? | |
| We're just not beating up. | |
| No, but I'm asking Christy. | |
| You said, well, okay, the guy should pay because we spend more money getting ready. | |
| But like, let's say in some scenario, the guy actually spent more money getting ready. | |
| I think the guys should always pay, but I think in general, like people don't take into account that a girl is spending a lot of time, money, and effort just to get ready for this guy for the date. | |
| Okay, so that's one argument. | |
| But I also will say, like, I get hit on the most when I'm like out in my glasses, like not wearing makeup. | |
| Like the days I just don't care, and I'm just like, oh, I'm just going to go run my errands. | |
| That's when I like get hit on the most. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, you know what Drake said? | |
| What? | |
| Oh. | |
| Sweatpants, hair tied chilling with the money. | |
| Best I ever had. | |
| Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on. | |
| That's when you're the person who's going to be able to do that. | |
| I wonder if girls would agree to come on the panel sometime if it was an all-makeup-free panel, if girls would agree to come on the show. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Maybe. | |
| Maybe. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But okay, like. | |
| But the thing is, also, though, like, I would totally do that, but I have eyelash extensions. | |
| So, like, does that count? | |
| Because I can't. | |
| I'm not going to do that. | |
| Here, let's move away from the makeup component of like paying. | |
| Guys should pay for the first date because women spend more getting ready. | |
| I mean, the original point I made is, is you said you were in the talking stage with two dudes, and now all of a sudden you're getting back with your ex who was out of the picture. | |
| Like, this is precisely the way women move, which makes me not want to upfront fall into the provider frame. | |
| Like, I'm not going to pay on the first date for a girl who's dating three other dudes or who's fucking three other dudes. | |
| Like, you expect me to pay for a first date, and you're fucking the motherfucker. | |
| Okay, so the solution to this is to just go out for a drink. | |
| You don't have to commit to dinner on the first night. | |
| No, you don't even have coffee. | |
| Yeah, you could go to coffee. | |
| You could get one cocktail. | |
| I agree with that, but even in that circumstance, you still, excuse me, it's tripping over my words. | |
| You still shouldn't pay. | |
| Even if it's a $10 drink. | |
| Again, it's just this victim mentality. | |
| Until I know you're not fucking another dude, I'm not paying for you on the first date. | |
| Isn't it worth just throwing that $10 in for a drink just to work out whether or not you like this person? | |
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | |
| So for me, this is more of a principle thing. | |
| As a guy, if you want to min-max your success when it comes to women, you should pay for the first date. | |
| Because it's conceivable that you go on a date with a girl who's otherwise meets your standards and she's bent out of shape because you don't want to pay for the first date. | |
| So if you want to min-max as a dude, yes, you should pay. | |
| However, for me, it's just a matter of principle. | |
| You don't get the traditional treatment. | |
| I'm not going to fall into my traditional gender roles with a woman who may very well be, and this is the way a lot of women are moving and the way a lot of men are moving too. | |
| If you're sleeping with other men, if you're dating other men while you're talking to me, I don't want to pay for you. | |
| We can split. | |
| And then when we're in a committed relationship, then we can have a conversation about traditional gender roles. | |
| But if you're fucking another dude, you're talking to another dude. | |
| I'm not going to be a sucker. | |
| I'm not going to pay for you. | |
| I'm also not trying to talk to multiple people at once, but like that's just what happens when you're dating. | |
| Like the first guy that I was talking to. | |
| It's not after I went on a first date with him. | |
| I want like I wanted, I wasn't like going on the apps or anything. | |
| But when things start to progress not as quickly, like we went on a lot of dates and then things started to slow down. | |
| And then I met someone out when I was wearing my glasses. | |
| So then I went on another date with him. | |
| But if the first guy progressed things along faster, I would have never accepted like a date with someone else. | |
| How many dates did you go on with the guy when you started seeing this other guy? | |
| Three, four, five days? | |
| I think around like five, probably like five, I think. | |
| How much did you, and did you guys go out to nice dinners? | |
| Well, we went to oysters. | |
| How much did he spend on you? | |
| We went to 11 and we had a table. | |
| So, I mean, a couple grand. | |
| This is exactly why you shouldn't pay for a girl on the first date. | |
| But we had a great time. | |
| And it wasn't my idea. | |
| It was his. | |
| Right, but you admit to talking to multiple men, and this is precisely the reason I advise men to not be a sucker and not pay for women on first date. | |
| This is why you guys clowned on me for saying on the first day, I say I'm dating for marriage. | |
| So then, like, look, our intentions are on the table. | |
| You can even put that as a setting on Hinge. | |
| I'm dating for marriage. | |
| Well, that wouldn't preclude you necessarily from dating like multiple men. | |
| Did all my living in this set, you're living in this state of fear. | |
| And I'm telling you, my, look, look, every day, my primary audience is young conservative women who are 25 to 35, who either are married or are looking to get married. | |
| They have these traditional values. | |
| I'm saying I talk to these women all day, every day. | |
| There are tons of women like this out there, and you won't even take the risk to pay for one drink to get to know these women that are everything that you're saying you don't want. | |
| I will be a traditional man when women return to tradition. | |
| How can we return to tradition? | |
| There's no traditional man to show up for. | |
| Okay, well, first off, I mean, sorry, repeat your statement. | |
| We are trying. | |
| Me and so many women I know are trying to be traditional women, but there are no traditional men to show up for. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| So, and please don't take this. | |
| I mean, they're few and far between. | |
| On your Instagram, you have bikini photos. | |
| Yes. | |
| If a guy you started dating came along and said, I want you to take that down, would you? | |
| Yes. | |
| But you have those up on your Instagram. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, I think to me, a bikini picture isn't like, isn't a big thing. | |
| It's not. | |
| I mean, it's, I think modesty. | |
| A bikini picture at the pool or the beach. | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Modesty coincides with tradition, I would say. | |
| Okay, that's fair. | |
| Then, yes, I would be willing to hear it. | |
| But I'm just saying, like, for me and so many other women, we're wanting to go on dates. | |
| We're wanting to find somebody to marry. | |
| And then there's people like you are like, well, I'm just taking myself out of the dating game completely. | |
| Then what are we supposed to do? | |
| Well, marriage-minded women should not, I don't think they ought to date me. | |
| Again, I'm open to long-term partners. | |
| That's fair. | |
| That's fair. | |
| No, I'm open to, again, monogamous long-term partner. | |
| It could happen. | |
| You never know. | |
| I'll also say, I think I literally have like one bikini picture on Instagram. | |
| I have hardly any. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I didn't do a deep dive. | |
| I saw a couple. | |
| Yeah, I think one. | |
| I saw a couple, maybe a slight look. | |
| It's not, it's not the fucking crime of the century. | |
| But like, guys, it's like, I think these girls be posting Bible verses in their fucking Instagram, and they got bikini, like really revealing like bikini photos. | |
| And it's like, look, some guys don't mind, but it's like it's not really traditional. | |
| Now, when it comes to paying for the first date, like, again, we had Christy here. | |
| She admits, I mean, you know, she's dating multiple men. | |
| I've been on dates with women where I'll ask them, I'm like, hey, because I'm pretty upfront about that. | |
| I'm like, hey, are you seeing other guys? | |
| And a lot of women, some aren't always upfront, but some are. | |
| And like, even average, unremarkable women. | |
| I was on a date. | |
| This was a couple years ago. | |
| Met her on Hinge. | |
| She had just downloaded the app three days prior. | |
| Oh, she had just down. | |
| Sorry, guys, there's some sound outside. | |
| She had just downloaded the app. | |
| Three days in, I think I went on a date with her on her fourth date after having had the app. | |
| She had already been on two dates, and then she said she had two dates planned for the weekend. | |
| And I'm like, at that point, I've just lost all interest. | |
| Well, that was super dumb on her part to even drink. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| Well, I don't know. | |
| Yeah, she's dating as a job. | |
| Oh, it's dumb that she revealed it to me or dumb that she's doing that. | |
| I mean, both, but like very stupid to say on a date. | |
| Like, I've got some other guys lined up after you. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah, but that's that's being honest because as a guy, I don't want to deal with a girl that's dating other dudes. | |
| It's very easy to be dating one person at a time. | |
| And if you're serious as a guy, or well, it's just weird to me to want that standard from a girl, but you're not willing to date for marriage yourself. | |
| It's just you're basically expecting her to be dating for marriage, like only talking to her. | |
| No, no, no, but you're confusing commitment with marriage. | |
| You can be committed to one person and not get married. | |
| You can be monogamous and not get married. | |
| You can have kids and not get married. | |
| You can have a lifelong partner and not get married. | |
| That's true. | |
| I'm just saying on the dating, I'm just saying when it comes to being on a first date, I mean. | |
| Will you just marry someone already? | |
| I'm not gonna buy me a fucking drink. | |
| I'm not gonna do that. | |
| But if it's a first date, so are like in your ideal situation, are you saying that they should not even set up another date until they've either gone on enough dates with you to either say this is a yes or no? | |
| Sorry, could you repeat that, Sarah? | |
| Yeah, because most people, when they're using dating apps, they're you know talking to multiple people and then some become dates, some don't. | |
| So you're saying that you don't want to be on a first date with a girl. | |
| You don't want the date, you don't want the girl who you're on a first date with to also be dating other guys. | |
| So then there's degrees to it. | |
| I think there's a difference between going on dates with multiple guys. | |
| Like if you're single and it's your first date, obviously you've gone on dates with other people, then sleeping with multiple guys. | |
| Yeah, there's degrees to it, right? | |
| So like, do I find it as like if a girl went on a date the week prior and she's got a, I mean, I probably would object if she's going on a date with me and she's got a date planned for the day after, but there's degrees to it. | |
| So if she's sleeping with another guy and she's going on a date with me, I know that's a no-go for me. | |
| So would you say for you, is there a difference between sleeping with other guys versus dating other guys, like going on multiple first dates to see who they want to commit to? | |
| There's degrees to it. | |
| Like if there's, obviously, I recognize like if she's single and we just met, there's potentiality for crossover. | |
| Yeah. | |
| However. | |
| I think what she's kind of saying is that say she has three dates lined up. | |
| She hasn't slept with anyone. | |
| Whatever you're gay for the drink. | |
| You're sort of out of competition, you know? | |
| But this, she's giving now hope to the potential for a relationship. | |
| She's like, oh, I'm not sure. | |
| I'm just like, she's got three other. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| She's got three other dates lined up. | |
| I don't like, nah. | |
| So then you're saying that you want her to go on a first date, go on a second date, maybe third date, she's unsure, stop dating you, then start dating someone else. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| So I think it's pretty easy to date one person at a time. | |
| I think that is the best way for women to maneuver. | |
| Is it just like the dating thing that throws you off, like the dates, or is it like the back of your head, you're like, oh, I know you're about to go smashing? | |
| Well, you never know. | |
| Like, even she might not even be honest. | |
| Like, a lot of people aren't going to be honest about, you know, if they're seeing other people up front on the first date. | |
| So the way that I know people move, especially here in Southern California, they're fucking one, two, three other people. | |
| That's what I have to assume going in. | |
| So that's my hesitation for paying for the first date. | |
| But it just sounds kind of cheap. | |
| Like, is it really that big of a deal to pay for someone's coffee? | |
| But couldn't you direct that question to women? | |
| I mean, if it's supposed to be the chairs, but are women cheap? | |
| But that's like us saying that we're going to go and take care of this guy on the first date. | |
| Like, we're going to go out to cook dinner for him on the first date. | |
| I would have to do it. | |
| I actually think that's a good idea. | |
| Yeah, that's fine. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| But then you're inviting a guy over here. | |
| But if you're at house on your first shoe, it doesn't have to be at your place. | |
| It could be at his. | |
| No, I wouldn't want to go to some guy's house on the first date. | |
| No, I mean, I mean, not for date, but like. | |
| I didn't mean to say I don't want to. | |
| I don't want to go to a guy's house. | |
| You could do it in like your, maybe, like, your apartment building if there's like a common area at some of the kitchens, like maybe in a house. | |
| It's a common air. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't like the campsite. | |
| But would you accept that as a first date? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like a home cook meal? | |
| I would accept that as a first date. | |
| I don't want to come to your house that you don't know. | |
| Yeah, like I would cook for someone. | |
| I would take the time to do that for someone. | |
| I would do that too, but it'd have to be like a third or fourth date. | |
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | |
| Just because it's dangerous to have someone you don't know like over your house. | |
| Look, I don't know. | |
| I think. | |
| Are women ever really truly single? | |
| Are they ever truly single? | |
| There's always some dude in the picture. | |
| There's always some dude in the picture. | |
| They've got a fuck buddy. | |
| They got somebody they're sleeping with. | |
| And then they meet someone and then they're like, oh, I like this person a lot more. | |
| And then they start giving them their attention. | |
| But here's my position. | |
| But just like being single in the wild, you're always going to be aware of that. | |
| Here's my position. | |
| I don't even want to pursue a girl if she's sleeping with another guy. | |
| If I know you're sleeping with another guy, that's a wrap for me. | |
| I don't want to go on a date with you. | |
| I don't want to pay for a first date. | |
| I don't want to hold your hand. | |
| Then the only thing all you're looking for is going to be in the church, but you don't want to wish marriage. | |
| Isaac, didn't know you were going to be a guest on the show. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | |
| Tell these women what a good woman is and what a good man wants in a good woman. | |
| Love your content, Isaac, and you too, Brian. | |
| I'll tell you about women. | |
| Thank you, Matt. | |
| Zach. | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | |
| I go back to the best friend thing. | |
| I think you can really figure out a lot about a person. | |
| And I think for a first date, go for a walk. | |
| If you don't want to spend any money and you don't want to control yourself financially, go and do something like that. | |
| And then over time, these things will sort of sort themselves out. | |
| But yeah, the whole thing about having three or four dates lined up, I think for a man, that feels very, I don't know, it just feels shit. | |
| You don't want to feel shit going on. | |
| I actually love the walk idea. | |
| Like, I've actually had a couple first dates where, like, we take my dog for a walk and like you can just conversate with someone. | |
| Is that a you? | |
| That's honestly like a great idea. | |
| That's like a great idea. | |
| I love taking my dogs for walks. | |
| Is this a euphemism? | |
| What do you say? | |
| No. | |
| Like, I'm literally, I'm fine with that idea, but if you are going with going for a walk date, that's fine. | |
| She just says what's up. | |
| But if you are going to go to a date that you have to spend money, then it's like the guy should pay. | |
| But if the guy doesn't want to, then come up with a creative date, like going for a walk. | |
| Cute, what you got for us? | |
| Just the fact that she said, take my dog for a walk. | |
| Like, how is like, how is that a date? | |
| I've. | |
| Wait, why can't we take a walk? | |
| Is it the duration? | |
| Is it the duration that it takes as long for your dog to shit? | |
| No, like, go for a nice walk. | |
| I live in Miami. | |
| There's so many. | |
| I don't want to, like, give away my... | |
| Hold on to the same. | |
| ...69 donated $99. | |
| This is for Singh Dynasty. | |
| What? | |
| What are your thoughts on Mav Couples? | |
| Also, want to take you to Mole Lu's in Monterey Park for Xiaolong Bao. | |
| You can check if I have CTE. | |
| Yeah, I train with UFC fighters. | |
| No big deal. | |
| I always get KTF, but it's worth it. | |
| Manchrugging. | |
| Why is he talking about Dimsum? | |
| I think this is directed at you. | |
| Okay, I can't. | |
| Can you read that again? | |
| Let's bring it back up. | |
| He's just saying, what is WMAF couples? | |
| Women, men. | |
| No idea. | |
| I have no idea. | |
| I don't know. | |
| She's in a relationship. | |
| He asks if you can check if he has CTE since you're a neurologist. | |
| Oh, that's chronic traumatic encephalopathy. | |
| That's basically like concussions, like brain injury after multiple concussions. | |
| You can't diagnose it until after death, right? | |
| Yeah, that's what's talking about. | |
| I see. | |
| Sorry. | |
| If you have a concussion. | |
| Wait. | |
| After. | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| After the podcast. | |
| I do love Shalom Balloon. | |
| He does mention that. | |
| So Isaac does have to take off here in a couple minutes. | |
| We're going to react to a quick video. | |
| Quickly before we react to the video, Alex, we were having a little back and forth. | |
| You were saying that I need to find a woman in the church. | |
| Is that? | |
| So I'm saying that the standards that you're looking for, like this idea. | |
| To just not pay on the first date. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I don't want a girl that's like sleeping with a bunch of different dudes and all this different. | |
| I'm saying like the standards that you're wanting, like this loyal woman, blah, blah, blah, you know, all of that, you would find just the list of things that are not a huge list. | |
| I'm just saying because otherwise it is going to be a little bit different, not being a lib and all that kind of stuff. | |
| Or just like a woman, she could be apolitical, she could be moderate. | |
| Okay, fine. | |
| But I'm saying that that type of woman likely is going to be found in a church. | |
| And I'm saying, so the ideal woman that you're looking for with all these characteristics, she's probably wanting marriage. | |
| It's like you're looking for a unicorn, this woman that's like super loyal, doesn't do this, but doesn't matter. | |
| I disagree. | |
| I disagree. | |
| I think there's plenty. | |
| Maybe in the tech space. | |
| But like, I feel like the type of woman you're describing could maybe be found. | |
| Do you think I'm like first dates do you go on? | |
| None. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How many dates do you like? | |
| How many first dates do you go on? | |
| What's the ratio? | |
| What's the ratio? | |
| How many in a month? | |
| Ever out of the middle? | |
| Okay, so ever since I started the podcast, because I've been super busy with work, so I started the podcast like a year and a, wait, when I about a year ago. | |
| I really haven't been dating. | |
| I went on a couple dates here and there. | |
| Previously, when I'm single, I'd maybe do two or three dates a month. | |
| Do any of them like have a problem when you say you're not gonna pay? | |
| When I'm not gonna pay? | |
| Yeah, like do you ever get backlash for that or they're all just really cool with it? | |
| Most of them are fine with it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Have you ever thought about looking for a girl in church? | |
| No, I'm not waiting until marriage. | |
| So like if she's super strict when it comes to the church stuff, then not for me. | |
| See, this is what I'm saying. | |
| But I think the way that you got it is not a matter of time. | |
| I just feel like besides the marriage. | |
| I'm really not asking you. | |
| No, besides the marriage. | |
| I just don't want a chick that's a hoe. | |
| Yes, I'm not a child. | |
| I'm not asking you. | |
| The red pill guys want a traditional woman, but they do not want to step up and be a traditional man themselves. | |
| They need to wait until marriage to have sex. | |
| That's the most important part of it. | |
| Well, not the most important part of a relationship. | |
| It's very important to get. | |
| You've got to get your rocks off. | |
| No, you don't. | |
| It's like buying a car. | |
| You can't just buy outside unseen. | |
| You've got to take it for a test. | |
| When you learn to ride a bike, did you have to learn on a whole bunch of different bikes or did you learn on one bike? | |
| I started with training wheels. | |
| Okay, but the same bike. | |
| You better toot the training wheels off. | |
| And if you're waiting till you're married to have sex, it's probably going to be not as great. | |
| It's going to be terrible. | |
| It's going to be awful. | |
| Your wedding line is going to suck dicks. | |
| Hymans will be broken and hearts will also be broken. | |
| I need to go. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Time for the video or not? | |
| Hey, dude, thank you for coming. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Pleasure. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| Guys, guys, go sub to his channel. | |
| He's got a kid. | |
| He's got to go take off. | |
| Isaac. | |
| I apologize. | |
| All good, man. | |
| Hey, thank you for coming. | |
| Thank you for coming. | |
| Okay, so actually, can we Let's no, put can someone put the mic just on the ground, maybe by his number three, Nick. | |
| Yeah, we have a little more space here. | |
| Yeah, it's fine. | |
| Um, I see, here's the thing when it comes to tradition, and maybe this is I don't know, the OnlyFans thing, that's that's okay. | |
| I don't think you like when it comes to being traditional or wanting a bit more traditional, I don't think it has to be all or nothing. | |
| And it quite clearly isn't all or nothing because we can make the argument. | |
| But then why is everyone? | |
| Stood up. | |
| Zip it, zip it, zip it good, Christy. | |
| Zip it good. | |
| Okay. | |
| So how many women who like you can make the argument that in order for a woman to be traditional, she needs to be a virgin, right? | |
| You can make that argument. | |
| But like, are you a virgin? | |
| No. | |
| Are we going to sit here like, but you're still a traditional woman, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| But you're not a virgin. | |
| So, and in the same way, like, I, and I don't know if I even really consider myself all that traditional, but is a guy not paying for the first date? | |
| Is that like the epitome of being non-traditional? | |
| No, but I just, I think it sets the standard to pay for a girl that's fucking another guy? | |
| I'm not prepared to do that. | |
| I'm not prepared. | |
| She's going on first. | |
| But she could be. | |
| She could be. | |
| But, like, you said you had two to three dates a month whenever you were dating. | |
| So then before you said you don't want to date a girl who has other dates lined up. | |
| So did you line up each of those dates after you stopped dating one girl? | |
| I mean, typically, I would typically, like the way I was, it depends, but I would typically pursue one girl at a time. | |
| But like, again, there's degrees to it, you know? | |
| There's degrees. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's degrees. | |
| But that's why I'm saying sleeping with multiple other people are different than having multiple dates lined up. | |
| Like that is sort of just like a practical thing that happens when you're using dating apps. | |
| You can skid over this way a little bit if you want. | |
| It's wait, okay. | |
| Just because she's going on first dates doesn't mean she's like having sex with anyone at all. | |
| Right, but again, there's degrees to it. | |
| If you're going on like probably by the time you went on like six, seven dates, you're probably not going on first dates with other people. | |
| Or at least I wouldn't be. | |
| Unless the rhythm slowed down and you're like, you know, this guy's clearly not serious. | |
| It's not going to get anywhere. | |
| So then you start going on first date again. | |
| Dates, yeah. | |
| Q, do you pay for first dates? | |
| Yeah. | |
| See? | |
| And I don't think that's wrong. | |
| Like, I think, but it's not. | |
| I don't think about it in a sense that he's thinking about it. | |
| And then most of the time, like, women have even paid for my first dates. | |
| So to me, it's more so it doesn't really matter to me because I'm really good at discerning what type of woman I'm dealing with. | |
| So I'm confident in that. | |
| So if I know I'm dealing with a woman who's I thought I don't even take her on a date. | |
| Like I won't take a thought on a date. | |
| Can I ask you a question though? | |
| Have you ever dated a woman who on the surface she was seemed innocent, seemed unassuming? | |
| She seemed a certain way, but in actuality, she moved very differently. | |
| Have you ever encountered a woman like that? | |
| Probably early on in like 21, but not since like just learning psychology and just dealing with women. | |
| I'm just really good at discerning which women are which women. | |
| Sure. | |
| So it's easier for me to tell. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And look, again, to the men watching, if you want to min-max your success when it comes to dating, you should pay for the first date. | |
| However, for me, it's just like, plus I kind of like it when a girl simps. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| I just think you're prohibiting like a lot of good girls that could have come into your life because you're going in with that mentality. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| I'm saying you're like exactly the red flag that you're telling men to avoid in women. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Like you are the girl version of what you're allegedly trying to avoid. | |
| I can't believe that. | |
| When you get a girl in change, you know? | |
| But I don't see what is wrong with wanting a woman to equally contribute to the start of a relationship. | |
| Nothing, but I think it is tradition for a guy to want to pursue the woman. | |
| And I think that first date, why not the second date? | |
| Oh, she offers to pay. | |
| I think second date. | |
| Although it's nice if she pursues. | |
| I just think first, just like with taking a guy's last name and all that kind of stuff, I think it is a good thing. | |
| It's a good act of faith for the guy to pay first date. | |
| And then yes, second date, she can offer to pay. | |
| Let's go for ice cream or whatever. | |
| Like she offers third date. | |
| Maybe she cooks for him or whatever. | |
| But then you can go back. | |
| There's no guarantee of a second date. | |
| I think it will be a daughter. | |
| You'll know before the date is over if you want to. | |
| How many of the women that you went on first dates with? | |
| How many of them actually wanted a second date? | |
| How many of the first dates? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, it's funny you laugh. | |
| That's a really good question. | |
| I would say like first dates, I think it was like 50%. | |
| I think. | |
| Okay. | |
| 50%. | |
| And how did you guys proceed after? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like, did she pay for the second date? | |
| Did you pay for the second date? | |
| Well, see, I wasn't really paying for the first date ever, really. | |
| I've paid occasionally on the first date. | |
| No, no, once you went on the second date. | |
| So you didn't pay on the first date. | |
| The women who wanted a second date were fine with that. | |
| I'm assuming. | |
| They were okay with that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you went on a second date. | |
| So what happened the second date? | |
| Well, okay. | |
| Second date, I mean, she's coming to my place. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Oh, God. | |
| No, what's your body count? | |
| What's your body count? | |
| Oh, I'm a man of God. | |
| I don't reveal that. | |
| Well, she's coming to your place the second date. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| I'm not waiting until marriage. | |
| I know, but did you ever answer what your body count was yesterday? | |
| No, I'm a man of God. | |
| I don't share that. | |
| Yeah, yeah, but she's coming to your place the second date. | |
| No, why not? | |
| You're doing the dirty. | |
| Never say never. | |
| I think your ratio is way higher than mine. | |
| My ratio? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| I mean, I don't go to guys' houses on second dates. | |
| Do you think that you have the highest body count at this table? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Just be honest. | |
| Just like, you know, do you think that's just the highest level? | |
| What's your body count? | |
| Q, what's your body count? | |
| Three triple jigs. | |
| No, but we, but we agree that the ratio is the same. | |
| I think you do get like problems. | |
| Yo, the ratio is bullshit. | |
| The ratio is bullshit. | |
| It is bullshit. | |
| Sorry, Brian. | |
| I have to go. | |
| No, Kelly, you're breaking my heart. | |
| I have school. | |
| Breaking my heart. | |
| I asked my mom at 8 in the morning. | |
| You could stay for another hour. | |
| Hours? | |
| It takes me two hours to get it. | |
| No big deal. | |
| It's no big deal. | |
| It's 9 a.m. | |
| 9 p.m. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I know. | |
| And then that means I have school. | |
| I'm like. | |
| It's all good. | |
| If you got to take off, it's fine. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Okay, I'll see you guys. | |
| Bye. | |
| Bye. | |
| Another one. | |
| Another one bites the dust. | |
| Okay, so what was the question? | |
| Your body count. | |
| She shared. | |
| I think you asked him a question. | |
| Nick, I put the mic on the ground. | |
| And you and you said something about the ratio. | |
| Oh, you're at, yeah, the ratio. | |
| Okay, so you're saying like the written, but you're saying, okay, your whole thing with body count is, well, it's the ratio. | |
| It's how many people want to sleep with you and you say no to, kind of, right? | |
| Yeah, it's about the opportunities that you're taking. | |
| So yeah, like if 12 people wanted to sleep with you and you took 12 opportunities, that's a lot sluttier than if 100 people wanted to sleep with you and you took 12 opportunities. | |
| Okay. | |
| Perhaps if you're coming. | |
| Perhaps if you're comparing. | |
| But when it comes to body count, it's a little different. | |
| Because the number, like a not one number, if we both say three, but you've only had three opportunities and I've had ten, three might sound like it's completely different, you know? | |
| Or if I say two, you say three people. | |
| I reject your ratio thing. | |
| Here's why. | |
| It's very logical. | |
| I know you don't like it, but let me explain. | |
| Your mind is at least thinking. | |
| I can tell you. | |
| Let me know. | |
| No, it's logical, but I'm thinking about desirability. | |
| Because if you're a woman, you're going to get more opportunities, but you're also more selective as a woman. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So whereas a man, if you get more opportunities, you probably take more because you're the one who's right, which is sluttier. | |
| So it's not about the number. | |
| Well, okay, here's when it comes to the ratio, though. | |
| Let's see. | |
| And also, does it matter what age you had sex with for the first time? | |
| Let me finish my point. | |
| When it comes to the ratio, let's say somebody, a woman, has slept with one guy, but her ratio sucks. | |
| Like, let's say it's... | |
| She only had one opportunity. | |
| Let's say she had 10. | |
| I don't know. | |
| She slept with one guy versus a woman who slept with 100 guys, but she's had a million opportunities. | |
| Yeah, you're going to do the math. | |
| You should do the math on it. | |
| Are you prepared to argue that the woman who slept with one man is sluttier than the woman who slept with 100? | |
| Okay, so how many opportunities did she get? | |
| Okay. | |
| She got 10. | |
| Wait, we're in those example numbers. | |
| 100, 100 to a million. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's not my fault that she didn't get that many. | |
| No, but the girl who slept with a lot of people. | |
| This is the thing. | |
| No, The girl who slept with 100 people, if she's had a million opportunities, technically her ratio is better than the girl who slept with one guy who's had 10 opportunities. | |
| So your whole ratio thing is bogus. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| But the thing is, like, okay, so you're saying, so, so if it's not the other day, okay, but so you're saying that hold on, let me ask you a question. | |
| The girl that slept with a hundred men who had a million opportunities is less slutty than the girl who's only slept with one guy, according to your ratio. | |
| They'd be pretty equal, to be honest. | |
| Equal. | |
| Yeah, they'd be pretty easy. | |
| A girl who slept with 100 men is equal to a girl who slept one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I can't. | |
| It's equal. | |
| It is. | |
| Send, send. | |
| She might have only slept with one, but like, she didn't get that many opportunities. | |
| Send the missile. | |
| She didn't get that many opportunities. | |
| I have just sent a nuclear missile to this podcast studio. | |
| You're saying the woman who's okay. | |
| You're saying the woman. | |
| You have to just do the math on it. | |
| Okay, how about a woman with a who slept with a thousand? | |
| A woman slept with a thousand people. | |
| Out of a million? | |
| Out of a billion. | |
| She's had a billion. | |
| That's not a lot when you knew the math on it, though. | |
| I mean, the guys next to me before were at 600. | |
| He's saying, regardless, that's a lot of bodies. | |
| Regardless, I know you everyone hates the ratio. | |
| The ratio doesn't matter. | |
| I can't believe I wasn't ratio, Christy, and not and I was raspy. | |
| You're raspy, Chris. | |
| I know, because that's more of a diss, but I think it should be ratio, Christy. | |
| I can't eat. | |
| I'm gonna, my next job is gonna be a mathematician, actually. | |
| Since everyone wants me to shut my own hands down so badly, I'm gonna change careers. | |
| It's mathematics. | |
| Okay, we have Bender the Offender here. | |
| Did I already read this? | |
| Blue-collar workers are not as valued anymore, and it truly breaks my heart because those men keep the country running. | |
| Very true. | |
| Instead, people in today's society value women who do sex work and value their career over a husband-based. | |
| Very true. | |
| Bender the Offender. | |
| Very true. | |
| I'm not against blue-collar jobs at all. | |
| I just don't see my, well, I'm engaged and he doesn't have a blue-collar job, but I don't go really out on dates with people and that. | |
| Yeah, I just so much. | |
| Your ratio thing only works if you're comparing a woman, like women who have equivalent body counts. | |
| In those circumstances, your ratio thing, you can make the argument that it makes somewhat sense in that context. | |
| However, you cannot make the argument that a woman with a higher body count compared to a woman with a lower body count because of the ratio. | |
| There's also things that have to do with it, like your age and how old you are. | |
| Like, obviously, if there's a girl that's 33 or a guy that's 33 and someone that's 23 and 33, and if they've been single for the same amount of time, like they're going to have like more opportunities. | |
| Or if someone's been in a very, very long-term relationship and someone has it, like they're going to have different opportunities. | |
| So there's just more that goes into it than just being able to say one body count number because it's going to sound like one might sound high and one might sound low, but you have to look more into that. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| He says erroneous. | |
| I think it's erroneous. | |
| You guys are running the show. | |
| All right. | |
| Bender the offender. | |
| Side note. | |
| I work in a steel mill. | |
| When Christy said that men who work blue-collar jobs is a red flag. | |
| I was thinking, don't you support Trump and he supports the blue-collar man? | |
| I'm not against. | |
| She just doesn't want to do that. | |
| I just don't think, like, I just, I mean, I don't know what you look like. | |
| If you have really long blonde hair with a man bun, I would consider it. | |
| I just don't see, I don't see it in my future. | |
| I love blondes. | |
| Your type is a guy with long blonde hair and a man bun. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, that's my favorite thing ever. | |
| Ever? | |
| Like, ever. | |
| Like, the long blonde hair gets me, but not in a liberal. | |
| Not in a scrawny one. | |
| We're going to react to the videos and then we're going to wrap up the show. | |
| Nick, can you pull up the first video, please? | |
| The TikTok, right? | |
| I think it's just the video. | |
| I think it's a TikTok. | |
| Yeah, it is. | |
| It's the woman. | |
| Yeah, I got it. | |
| Here's what to say to a man who cares about your body count. | |
| I saw a video the other day where a guy was asked whether he thinks body count matters than a woman he's about to date, to which he responded, if a girl is ran through, then she's for everybody else. | |
| I kind of feel like guys want girls for themselves. | |
| We care about women's body count because we want them to be all for ourselves. | |
| We don't want them to be any other guy. | |
| We want to provide for them. | |
| We want to be the man in their world. | |
| And then he went to go on and say that zero was his ideal body count for a woman because she got to be a virgin. | |
| I got to take that ish and show her what it's about because she's going to be mine at the end of the day. | |
| My dearest man child, what you're describing here is the fact that you see women as objects that you can have all for your little self. | |
| Because the reality is, your concern with your body count shows how little faith you have in yourself that you'll measure up to any of the men she's been with before you. | |
| A woman who's never been with another man can't find you disappointing in or out of bed because she has no one to compare you to. | |
| And while I think it's admirable that you think you want to provide for a woman and be the man in her world, I think what you mean is that you want her to think that you're the only one who can provide for her because that's how you control her. | |
| Because you're not secure enough in yourself to be with a woman who is free to leave you but chooses not to. | |
| And so in conclusion, ladies, your body count is your past. | |
| And any man preoccupied with your past has no faith in himself to make your future better. | |
| So the next time a man asks you what your body count is, tell him it's not his freaking business and leave the date as quickly as possible. | |
| Because why spend any time with a man who doesn't realize that even though your past and where you came from does matter? | |
| What matters more is what you learn from your past and where you're going next. | |
| I love that. | |
| That's amazing. | |
| I can't believe you guys just played that to be honest. | |
| What? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| That was awesome. | |
| She's correct. | |
| You agree? | |
| Yeah, your body. | |
| She literally just said your body count doesn't even matter. | |
| And it's like. | |
| It does though. | |
| The ratio matters, but like she just said the body count doesn't matter and to leave if someone asks. | |
| Like, that's cool. | |
| So you don't think you think a woman. | |
| I agree with what she's saying. | |
| You think a woman who slept with 100 men comparable to a woman who's only slept with one? | |
| I said my, I actually did say my body count was like around 22. | |
| I didn't bring my diary with me, but that's a very, very low body count. | |
| And so I'm not saying like is 23 a low body count for being 33 years old. | |
| The average is six for women. | |
| Compared to like how many opportunities I have on a daily basis, I know. | |
| Like modern times, that is a low body count. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I'm not like, like, I'm not like at, like, I don't think people should just fuck everyone. | |
| Even though everyone thinks I think that, but, um, but I agree with her. | |
| Like, it's kind of none of your business if you meet someone and hit it off. | |
| Like, why does it even, why was the past matter? | |
| Q, do you have a response to her and then also a reaction to the video? | |
| I love that video. | |
| Her on. | |
| Body count matters. | |
| Women. | |
| Oh. | |
| Body count matters. | |
| Women who say body count doesn't matter. | |
| And specifically, we're not talking about whether it does to men or not because this is the argument that women typically make. | |
| Why should my body count matter? | |
| The first reason it matters is biologically, evolutionarily, paternity uncertainty. | |
| It's a natural psychological adaptation for men to feel repulsed by body count because it's indicative that their paternity will not be ensured. | |
| That's the biological evolutionary explanation. | |
| Secondly, women are not very discerning about the men that they lay down with. | |
| If you pay attention to women who actually sleep with men, a lot of men try to get in without condoms. | |
| You notice that STI rates go up. | |
| That's the second thing. | |
| Third, the psychological effects that it has on women. | |
| Women typically are promiscuous when they have something else going on. | |
| Substance abuse, former abuse in their early teen stages. | |
| These kind of things manifest. | |
| That's why a woman's past matters because it's indicative that she has poor, she'll exhibit poor behavioral tendencies. | |
| She falls into ways that are not conducive to a healthy relationship. | |
| They'll be, you know, manifested in one way or another within the relationship. | |
| That's why it's important. | |
| So there are a whole bunch of markers that high body counts indicate. | |
| And it's also indicative, it can be a gene. | |
| There's actually been a gene that's been found for promiscuity in women and in men. | |
| It's called the D, the DRR4 gene. | |
| I believe that's the correct gene. | |
| It's actually associated with promiscuity. | |
| So the whole pair bonding thing is not even the more women you sleep with, it affects your ability to pair bond. | |
| It's you suck at pair bonding from the jump, which is why you become promiscuous. | |
| You naturally fall in a cycle of dating men, sleeping with men, and that's essentially what it boils down to. | |
| Everything you're saying is correct, but you yourself are not willing to not have sex before marriage. | |
| You're contributing to all these women's minds. | |
| And you're allowed to be promiscuous, but she's not. | |
| Well, yeah. | |
| But I don't think women should be promiscuable. | |
| Because y'all still speaking about the double. | |
| Y'all still speaking about the double standard, and it's because it's a disadvantage to y'all. | |
| It's a disadvantage. | |
| It's a disadvantage to y'all. | |
| It's a good moment. | |
| It's a disadvantage. | |
| That's why you don't like it. | |
| It's a disadvantage to both men and women to have a higher body count. | |
| And everything that woman said, it was like she was half there. | |
| But why is it a disadvantage? | |
| Why do you consider it a disadvantage to men as opposed to women when women don't go out of their way? | |
| A man will stop dating you if he finds out you have too many bodies for his liking, whatever that may be. | |
| The higher your body count is for men and women, men and women who get married who have higher body counts, both of them. | |
| Yes, they're well aware of how well aware. | |
| It's more pronounced in women, though. | |
| Yeah, and I'm well aware of what you're saying. | |
| You're not wrong, but what I'm saying is attitude towards body count. | |
| Like I did my own study on this as well. | |
| And I asked men, if you found out your woman had a promiscuous past, how would you feel? | |
| And I gave them the options, disgust, indifferent, repulsed, etc. | |
| The responses were overwhelmingly repulsed, disgusted. | |
| And then I asked another question, surveyed some more men, and asked them, would you ultimately end the relationship? | |
| The majority of men said they would. | |
| Now compare it to women, it's not the same results. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Stochastic decay donated $99. | |
| Stochastic Decay has a question for all raspy. | |
| You sit there and talk about ratio this, ratio that, and how the rest of the panel doesn't understand math. | |
| What's the ratio of duck size to glux that resulted in your vocal cord damage? | |
| The biggest was 12. | |
| 12 inches? | |
| Yeah, either it's, I measured it. | |
| You're going to see for yourself in my only chance. | |
| I put the measuring tape next to it. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Send the asteroid. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, I don't want to get raised into it, but I feel like it's pretty big for a white guy. | |
| Sorry, but I think that just has something to do with it, too. | |
| She had to clarify. | |
| What's that song by the offspring? | |
| Pretty far. | |
| I mean, it's pretty white guy. | |
| It's pretty rare to find, I'm not going to lie. | |
| Okay. | |
| But my voice was raspy way, way before this. | |
| Like, I've always had a raspy voice. | |
| Way before I even had sex. | |
| Yeah, I didn't have sex till I was 18. | |
| Okay. | |
| And people started talking about my raspy voice when I was around 16. | |
| Good time. | |
| Wait, so your voice has been raspy your whole life? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| So it runs in the family. | |
| Is that my mom's is raspy though? | |
| That's interesting. | |
| Twins also run my family. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I like bringing it back to the video. | |
| Do any of you, do you, let's go around the table on this. | |
| Your reaction to the video, agree, disagree? | |
| I would disagree with her only be, well, to a certain extent. | |
| Like, if I'm planning on dating you and you ask me, like, what's your body count? | |
| I'm going to tell you. | |
| But if I don't have any like form or if I don't want to pursue anything more with you, I'm not, like, it doesn't matter. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think the question of does body count matter depends on what you mean by matter. | |
| Like, there's two ways you could, there's two things you can mean when you ask this question. | |
| And one would be, does it matter for the partner in how he perceives the partner? | |
| And the other way to answer the question would be, does it matter for the individual as in their mental and emotional health when they increase their body count number? | |
| So, you know, I think for the question of does it matter for the perception of the partner, it really just depends. | |
| I mean, some people care, some people don't. | |
| So it's like, do people care the length of their hair of their partner? | |
| I think for some people have strong preferences, some people don't. | |
| So I think you can look at the data and the generalizations, but that's really going to be an individual question. | |
| Yeah, as with most things. | |
| Yeah. | |
| As with most things. | |
| As far as the individual part of it, I think that depends on the person as well. | |
| Because for some people, I think we can all agree if we're using sleeping with a lot of people to fill a void, whether that be loneliness, addiction, need for validation, need for attention, need to feel love, that's probably a negative thing. | |
| But you know, is there any good reason to sleep with a lot of people? | |
| No, no. | |
| I would say that for some people, they can separate sort of the intimacy part of it from the sort of the casual part of it. | |
| Sounds like a bad thing. | |
| I can't do that. | |
| Yeah, I think it's really hard to do, but I've seen people do it. | |
| I think it's pretty impossible. | |
| I put it. | |
| Wait, like the intimate from the physical? | |
| Or the personal from the physical? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| So like an example, for example, I was involved in the partner dance community for a long time. | |
| So one thing that happens in the partner dance community, that can be a very intimate thing. | |
| You're hugging each other, you're breathing together, there's a lead and a follow. | |
| And so it can be a very intimate experience, but you're also sort of dancing with the person and then saying like, thank you so much, like goodbye, and then you ask the next person to dance. | |
| So it can be a very intimate experience, but you can also kind of frame it in a way where this is a dance where we're sort of sharing this connection. | |
| So I think it's hard to do, but some people do are able to frame that in a way with sex as well where it doesn't really affect their intimacy because when they are having sex with an intimate, not intimate, but with like a partner that they really love or in a committed relationship with, it means something different, then we're doing it more casually. | |
| So the intention can be different. | |
| Until they catch herpes. | |
| But did you guys? | |
| I honestly agree with everything that she said. | |
| Okay. | |
| Also, can I add one more thing? | |
| Yeah, yeah, of course. | |
| Of course, another reason it matters is because of the orgasm gap. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Women are, if men's motivation for sex is because we know we're going to orgasm, then we're much more inclined to want to have sex. | |
| Whereas women, when they engage in casual sex, you're less likely to orgasm. | |
| Yeah, you usually don't orgasm if you have sex. | |
| Hold on, let them finish. | |
| Yeah, you usually don't orgasm if you have sex, especially with a casual. | |
| And things that help women orgasm are things like liking the guy and the guy being familiar with your body and you being attracted to the guy. | |
| So essentially, if you want to compare it, women waste their time more and sex involves more of a risk than a reward for a woman than it does for a man. | |
| Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. | |
| Familiarity sort of has like a double-edged sword because on one hand, familiarity, like you said, can breed comfort, can be trust, and that can lead to better and higher quality sex, more orgasms, exactly. | |
| On the other hand, familiarity can sort of lead to boredom for some people. | |
| And so, you know, it sort of has a double-edged sword in like which way it swings. | |
| I don't like to have sex with someone unless I feel like I have an emotional connection with that guy because it's just really not worth it. | |
| Like what you're saying. | |
| What you're saying, too, like, why would I have sex with someone if I'm not emotionally connected and can't have an orgasm? | |
| That doesn't make any sense. | |
| I'll quickly address the video. | |
| It's very interesting. | |
| Like, basically, she's saying she's basically shaming men for their preferences, standards, and boundaries. | |
| Men are not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries. | |
| What did she say? | |
| Oh, it's insecure. | |
| I'm trying to think what else she said. | |
| It's insecure for a variety of reasons. | |
| And I fail to see how it's about insecurity when, well, for some of the reasons outlined why it can be an indicator for various things. | |
| She also said it's not your business. | |
| It's not. | |
| And she said, like, if you're that great, like, your past doesn't matter because she won't be like thinking about that. | |
| Of course, people's past matters. | |
| I'm sure she would object. | |
| Like, she may very well want to disqualify a potential partner because of a criminal history. | |
| Oh, no, no, no. | |
| What she said, she said was: if you're, because the bodies are from my past, and if you're focused on my past, we can't build a future. | |
| That's what she said. | |
| I mean, that's a, what's it called? | |
| I think men. | |
| I reject it, but go ahead. | |
| Men and women are absolutely allowed to have body count preferences. | |
| You know, anyone can have their preferences. | |
| I don't think there's. | |
| So that part, I would agree with you that I disagree with what she was saying, that I don't think men nor women should be shamed for having a preference about that or really anything. | |
| People have preferences about every single thing. | |
| Like, I prefer blondes, and you prefer girls that want to pay up for the first date. | |
| Like, we're all allowed by our preferences. | |
| No, I'm not. | |
| We're all attracting very down to splits. | |
| Okay, so I'm not, but like, we all have our preferences, and we're all going to attract completely different people because we're all so different. | |
| I'll pay if she has a large labia. | |
| How about that? | |
| Well, I know. | |
| How would you know? | |
| I know that you have just thought about this organization of that. | |
| She's got to slide into my DMs. | |
| Would you slide it with a family? | |
| That's got to be her first moment. | |
| Would you go look at her OnlyFans to find out? | |
| How do you know? | |
| Who would you like to do? | |
| No, she's got to slide my DMs and be like, what's up, Brian? | |
| I'm 410 and I got a large labia. | |
| What's up? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| So let's see how many dates you get from. | |
| You know what? | |
| I actually have had a couple women DM me telling me like larger than life. | |
| We are soulmates. | |
| Wait, do you have a... | |
| No, that's what the girls are probably DMing you about. | |
| You got an Audi? | |
| What's up? | |
| I'm saying that's what the girls are probably. | |
| Huh? | |
| Is that not what they say? | |
| My lady is larger than life and the DMs you? | |
| I have received a few of those DMs. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I've received a few. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Have you got on with any of them? | |
| No. | |
| Here and there. | |
| Arby's favorite fast food? | |
| Yes or no? | |
| Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| I cannot, I disavow that statement. | |
| We should not be shaming women for the natural way in which they the pussy is. | |
| I'm just saying, you shouldn't shame women if they got more about cleanliness and hygiene. | |
| What do you talk? | |
| You can have a clean pussy and have an outie. | |
| I know, that's fine, but I'm saying. | |
| What are you saying? | |
| I'm saying it matters more about the light. | |
| What you say is how you keep it hygienic and cleanse. | |
| Oh, well, that's a thing. | |
| That's a gun. | |
| God's Dumbo. | |
| What? | |
| Dumbo? | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Tie your ears in a knot. | |
| It's quite the buzz. | |
| The bigger, the better. | |
| The larger the labia, the better. | |
| You should just go on. | |
| Any women, listen, ladies, don't let these men and women shame you if you have a large labia. | |
| There are plenty of men who will be appreciative of that. | |
| I think that is a whole category on pornob, like meaty. | |
| I think meaty vagina is this category. | |
| It can be found. | |
| Probably. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It can be found. | |
| Confirm or deny. | |
| Confirm or deny. | |
| It's a yes or no. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| So, look, body count is a proxy for promiscuity. | |
| If you have a high body count, you were promiscuous, you are promiscuous. | |
| Most people don't want to be involved in this soul has a high body count. | |
| Kristen Saint Regis. | |
| Christy. | |
| Christopher, I need you to stop interrupting me. | |
| It's very rude. | |
| Very rude, Kristen. | |
| That's not my name. | |
| Okay, Steve-O. | |
| That's actually better than calling me Kristen. | |
| I hate when Kristens steal the name Christy as their nickname. | |
| It's not my fault. | |
| I'm going to start calling you Christina. | |
| It's not my fault. | |
| Their parents name them Christina. | |
| How about that? | |
| I've heard this used: the adhesive tape analogy in regards to pair bonding. | |
| So it's like tape. | |
| When you place tape on something for the first time, the adhesion is strong. | |
| It sticks. | |
| But the more times you start putting the tape on to a new surface. | |
| Well, that's correct. | |
| It's scientifically proven that is what happens the more sexual partners you have. | |
| It is what happens. | |
| But what I think the red pill community fails to offer guys is hope that there is redemption. | |
| These are cue pills. | |
| A guy, a guy, or a girl with a high body count. | |
| A guy or a girl with a higher body count, there is redemption offered to them through Christ that they're not going to get through the red pill community. | |
| I just want to say that. | |
| So this idea, like, once you have a high body count, your life is over. | |
| Like, that's not true. | |
| I think that's a really damaging thing to tell people. | |
| Well, I mean, what I... | |
| And age depends on that, too. | |
| Like, if you were lucky enough to meet your soulmate at 23, then you're only going to, you're never going to be dating around, sleeping with people. | |
| But if you're 30, 33, 35, and single, you're just naturally going to have to like more often. | |
| We can't keep talking. | |
| We can't keep talking about the ratio. | |
| I'm not. | |
| I'm actually just going off what she's saying. | |
| Okay, my bad. | |
| I'm not talking. | |
| I'm not talking about it. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| I'd like to take this chance to apologize. | |
| To absolutely nobody. | |
| I mean, it's just like if we're in our 30s and single and trying to meet like a husband, your body count is going to probably have to be a little bit higher than if you met your person in your 20s just because you've had to date her. | |
| But then it would go into the ratio thing, which I'm not talking about. | |
| I don't think that's necessary. | |
| I don't think your age necessarily guarantees that you're going to have a high body count. | |
| But okay, so you're saying like through Christ, you can get redemption even if you were, you slept with 100 people. | |
| Jesus loves whores. | |
| There's born-again virgins. | |
| It's true. | |
| No. | |
| I don't believe in that. | |
| I will not allow the whole born-again virgin. | |
| So you would, let me ask. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| You're Christian. | |
| You're Christian, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| So let's say a woman, she previously was a prostitute and she slept, she slept with 300 people, but she found Christ. | |
| Yes, she goes to the church and get children. | |
| She's no longer, she's no longer a prostitute. | |
| She's now saving herself till marriage. | |
| Would you advocate a male friend of yours? | |
| Do you have a brother? | |
| Yes. | |
| Would you advocate for your brother, despite she's redeemed herself, right? | |
| She's found Christ. | |
| Would you advocate your brother marrying her? | |
| It depends on how long ago she was born again and saved. | |
| If she got saved last week, no. | |
| I don't think that's a good idea. | |
| I've been born again and a year. | |
| No. | |
| It's probably still too new in her walk. | |
| If she's somebody who has totally changed her life and she has been faithfully living that new life for five plus years, yes. | |
| But I don't think you can call yourself a virgin again. | |
| No, you can't regain a virgin. | |
| She's not a virgin, but she's a celibate. | |
| A born-again. | |
| Right. | |
| But like that past behavior, in my view, If you're an intelligent man, that should preclude you from a relationship with a man. | |
| And that would be so anything non-Christian that makes that you learn from. | |
| It would be advisable. | |
| It would be very advisable to recommend to men, despite her finding God and being celibate and waiting till marriage. | |
| If she was previously a prostitute and slept with 300 men, that does not a good wife make. | |
| Well, I feel like the number would play a part in me. | |
| You're saying 300. | |
| What if she had like 20 and she was like, you know what? | |
| I'm going to hang up the towel. | |
| I mean, a lot of women got 20. | |
| Like I think a lot of women. | |
| But I'm saying, I'm saying like it's a number thing. | |
| Like that's what I'm asking. | |
| Is it a number? | |
| Or is it just the fact that she did it? | |
| Or like the fact that she was a prostitute or was it the number? | |
| Well, I think there's, again, like degrees to it. | |
| Like, if she was a prost, if she's a prostitute, no. | |
| My God, I don't care if she has a prostitute. | |
| If she only had 10 clients, if she prostituted herself, done. | |
| You're done. | |
| I just, I think that's an incredible testimony for somebody to have. | |
| And I personally, in my life, know men who have body counts in the hundreds before they became Christians, became a Christian. | |
| But ever from the day they became a Christian, they walked that walk and they lived that life. | |
| The fruit of their life shows that they truly are saved and made a change. | |
| Then yes, I think that person can still be marriage material. | |
| Well, can't you also say for like men who's had sex with like 300 plus people, like it's also an emotional bond there too? | |
| Because out of the 300 people you've slept with, you probably fell for like 50 of them. | |
| You probably have like close relationships for like 50 of them. | |
| So now you're saying that's a good thing. | |
| Yeah, yeah, there's a couple things. | |
| So in terms of society functioning the best in an ideal world, everyone would just be a virgin and they would marry the, they would get married, they would wait till marriage, and then they would raise a deal. | |
| In an ideal world, that's yes. | |
| Nobody's perfect. | |
| It sucks that society is built up this way. | |
| I think it's a super sad, depressing world to live in where you think no past behavior can ever be redeemed. | |
| That everybody's so doomed to whatever their mistakes are that you can never. | |
| Yeah, like what if a girl is really messed up in the same mistakes? | |
| So you have, there's growth. | |
| There's something called growth and, like, you can't learn. | |
| No, you can grow, but, like. | |
| You can't grow without making a couple of mistakes. | |
| I mean. | |
| I mean, I don't think that a virgin guy, I don't think a guy who gets married, let's say a guy that gets married at 29 years old and he's never had sex once is probably going to be the best matchup to marry a prostitute or a former prostitute. | |
| But if you're talking about a guy who also has his own path, he's changed, she has it, you know what I mean? | |
| Then yes, there's not going to be that huge like imbalance of. | |
| And everyone has their own past and they're going to continue. | |
| Right. | |
| Like what if she had like people sitting there? | |
| I'm not saying she had a legitimate excuse, but what if she was like going through stuff and that's not, that doesn't and now in the no, she found the proper hope. | |
| She got the hope she needed. | |
| She's gone through her little therapy. | |
| Done. | |
| It's over. | |
| Become a nun. | |
| You can become a nun. | |
| How about that? | |
| Look. | |
| But then it was like online. | |
| I'm just talking for me and what I would recommend to other men. | |
| I don't care if she's now a godly woman. | |
| If you previously were a prostitute, drug addicted, 300 body count, I would recommend addicts, but there are people who are better women out there. | |
| For like seven, eight years, they don't deserve to get wife. | |
| For me, I would not date a woman who was previously a drug addict. | |
| If she was sober for years. | |
| I don't care how long she's been sober. | |
| I'm just, that's a metric with which I'm not going to date a woman. | |
| How is that fucking crazy? | |
| That's smart. | |
| I'm not saying I'm trying to drink. | |
| How's that crazy? | |
| That's just discernment. | |
| They probably went through some shitty stuff in their childhood. | |
| That's another reason. | |
| That is another reason to not want to date a woman. | |
| I mean, I'm not saying I'm trying to date someone like that, but I'm just saying if people change their lives around, they deserve a second. | |
| Like legitimately, like never look back either. | |
| I will say if that's all you can get, then that's different. | |
| But if you have options, that's the worst option to select. | |
| Right, regardless. | |
| If you're of how holy it may be or how much of a good person you may be trying to be, it doesn't matter. | |
| You don't want a woman that has that history. | |
| You don't want a woman that has that on her ledger. | |
| In the same way that women will make the optimum decision when it comes to who they're going to sleep with, who they're going to partner with, who they're going to marry, who they're going to have kids with, men are also free to make the optimum decision. | |
| Everyone. | |
| Everyone is trying to make the optimum decision. | |
| And as a guy, if you have other options, a woman who was previously a prostitute. | |
| I can't believe I have to explain this. | |
| A woman who was previously a prostitute and drug addicted does not make for a good potential partner. | |
| I think that's totally fine. | |
| I mean, everyone has their options. | |
| Again, if they should date you, if you got clean, if you're a clear colour, I just see her as myself. | |
| Like, we're just saying, if she was to clean her sofa. | |
| I don't care. | |
| No, here's another thing. | |
| I don't care if she's been sober for five. | |
| Hold on, let me finish. | |
| I don't care if she's been sober for five years. | |
| You have damn it. | |
| If you were previously a drug addict, there are probably some irreversible, there's some irreversible damage you've done to your body. | |
| Yes, of course. | |
| Perhaps even when it comes to fertility. | |
| So that could be, I mean, there's plenty of reasons. | |
| But also if you've got the vaccine, you're going to have to laugh. | |
| No, no, no, let's not. | |
| Two fertility. | |
| YouTube's going to cancel me. | |
| Let's not go there. | |
| We're not going to go. | |
| No, we can't because we're not going to go there. | |
| But look, but that might be that. | |
| And a lot of women who maybe a lot of conservative women that actually might be men or women. | |
| That might be a reflag that I'm going to do. | |
| Zip it quick. | |
| Zip it good. | |
| Okay. | |
| That might be a metric by which somebody doesn't want to date somebody if they got the jab. | |
| Hey, everyone can have their preferences. | |
| Yeah, a thousand percent. | |
| Like, that for me is way, a way bigger red flag than any type of job. | |
| But if everyone can have their preferences, then we can't really say, well, like, these preferences are okay, but these preferences are not okay, right? | |
| Like, it's either decide for themselves what they're preference. | |
| You literally just said, when I said, Brian's deciding for you. | |
| When I just said, Zip it. | |
| Zip it, okay? | |
| Chris Kirsten. | |
| You like to interrupt. | |
| You like to interrupt, okay? | |
| I'm not going to tolerate it anymore. | |
| Okay. | |
| Ooh, the sadness. | |
| Zip it. | |
| Okay. | |
| You literally just said, Brian, it's crazy that you wouldn't date a woman who's been seven years sober. | |
| That's not crazy. | |
| That's smart. | |
| I'm not saying for you, but I'm saying for someone else, like everyone deserves to find their person. | |
| Nobody deserves to find a person. | |
| Everyone's going to eventually. | |
| Well, not everyone. | |
| I'm not. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I think maybe here's where you're getting caught up. | |
| I'm not saying that it's going to be impossible for a woman who used to be a prostitute or who used to be drug addicted to find somebody. | |
| I agree with you on that. | |
| Of course. | |
| But what I'm saying, what I'm arguing is that for myself, and honestly as a recommendation for other men, don't date a previous drug addict. | |
| There are better options out there. | |
| In the same way that women are looking for the best options, you too as a man can go for the best option. | |
| You can optimize and try to get the best option. | |
| I just think it happens to be the case that a lot of women are unaccustomed to men articulating preferences, standards, and boundaries. | |
| Because most men are never most men are never in a position to. | |
| So when women hear it, they're like, this is unusual. | |
| Fuck, what's he talking about? | |
| Every woman deserves love. | |
| Every woman should have a man. | |
| Every woman gets a second chance. | |
| That's essentially how y'all treat it. | |
| And it's inherent. | |
| It's like y'all intrinsically believe that. | |
| I don't think that at all. | |
| But there's a lot of women who do. | |
| Well, I don't think everybody is guaranteed to have children or should have that. | |
| Yeah, should, I can't talk. | |
| I don't think everybody's guaranteed to have children. | |
| I don't think everybody's guaranteed to get married. | |
| I think that it totally depends on God's will for your life. | |
| Word. | |
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| Let's pull up the Q video, then we're going to wrap. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's the first one. | |
| Or sorry, sorry, it's the second one that's pinned. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, that one? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Now, I want y'all to understand that in this new age of modern women, this is one of the ways in which they will consciously sabotage their romantic opportunities. | |
| The last thing a man wants from a woman is for that woman to play mind games and downplay her attraction to him or her desire to see him. | |
| And this is one of the ways in which pop culture, media has led women astray and actually reduce their ability to form healthy romantic connections by getting them to behave in ways that are counterproductive to developing those healthy romantic interactions. | |
| When a man is interested in a woman and he's going out on a limb, he's initiating, he offers something for them to do, that is a woman's opportunity to reciprocate that romantic interest without any pride, ego, nonchalantness, apathy, manipulation, or reverse psychological tactics. | |
| A man with options is not going to come form and entertain such bullshit. | |
| And women's friends will even encourage just low IQ behavior amongst themselves. | |
| Don't appear too desperate. | |
| Don't move too fast. | |
| You don't want him to think you're a whore. | |
| I've dealt with plenty of women who, when I have something, were available in me where they modified their schedules to see me at their earliest convenience. | |
| And that's how healthy women tend to operate when they're genuinely interested in a guy. | |
| They want that man to know that they're interested as well. | |
| Women will engage in and utilize the most counterproductive dating methods and then get upset and vilify the man when those strategies fail to produce the desired effect or outcome. | |
| Truth. | |
| I agree. | |
| All women. | |
| And I've seen, like, that's not the only girl that I've seen, like, kind of do this, like, use that noise. | |
| It's like, it's one of those TikTok things, right? | |
| And she's like, oh, my, what is it? | |
| She's like, stoked that the guy is texting her, but then she's like, responding. | |
| Oh, I'm busy. | |
| Or like, even though she, you know, whatever. | |
| So. | |
| I think human nature, like, we're attracted to what's rare. | |
| And kind of full circle going back to the conversation topic where you started where you said something along the lines where if the guy was too available, that was unattractive to the woman. | |
| And because maybe you had multiple other partners, that it actually made women more attracted to you. | |
| I don't think that's weird. | |
| Like, I think it's human nature to want the thing that you can't have or want the thing that is rare. | |
| So essentially, what the woman in that video was doing was sort of trying to recreate that. | |
| So, you know, I think it's not great for either gender to do. | |
| I think everyone should, you know, if there is attraction and you're also reciprocally attracted to that person to be like full in and present and not try to play. | |
| I want to piggyback on what you're saying. | |
| I feel like a lot of it is how we're females, how we're raised growing up, especially by older females in our family. | |
| Like for me, it was like my grandma, she would be like, oh, you got to act like a lady. | |
| You got to do this. | |
| You can't let him. | |
| Like, if you want a good man, you can't perceive yourself as this, this, and that. | |
| Even though we're like super into you, we're super attractive. | |
| We want to spend like every single day with you. | |
| We don't want you to think that we're like hoes or we're just like out there, like we're doing this with everybody else. | |
| So it's not like a, we're playing games in a sense. | |
| It's like, okay, let me chill. | |
| Let me see how I can get him without him thinking too much of me. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| I was going to say that that could be the case. | |
| Like with a lot of women, I do hear that a lot. | |
| But like in the video that she's just representing, she's just. | |
| Oh, no, no, she wasn't. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Like, you can tell she was wrong. | |
| Like, all she wants is like the chase. | |
| And like, that's all she's seeking is the attention and everything. | |
| Yeah, I don't think men, I don't think men or women should be playing games like that. | |
| I think it's super detrimental. | |
| But I also think like when women are forward, I don't know. | |
| It's just like scares a lot of men away when we're forward. | |
| Like because you can be like, oh, you're hot. | |
| And I'm going to be like, oh, you're hot too. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Let's go to my place. | |
| And you're like, oh, no, you're too, you're too much. | |
| Like, I don't know. | |
| You guys want us to know games, but then when we are forward, we're like, okay, yes, I'm interested. | |
| Like, you know what I mean? | |
| It's like, you're maybe doing this with me. | |
| I can be in the background. | |
| But I like agree with your video, except for I just, because there was like the sound over it. | |
| It's like, if two people like each other, then yes, they both like each other. | |
| They should both be dropping things and prioritizing someone. | |
| It shouldn't just be the girl that has to prioritize the man. | |
| They should both equally be prioritizing each other. | |
| Right. | |
| And I understand what all of you are saying. | |
| The caveat is the guy having options and the way the woman responds. | |
| So I'm saying if the woman plays games and that guy has options, then he's not going to necessarily stick around for her to wait to see if she's going to be interested or reciprocate. | |
| But what I'm saying is he may move on. | |
| But if she really likes him, then she just sabotaged that opportunity because she wanted to downplay it, because she wanted to play cat and mouse. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| But she also encouraged men to not play games with colour. | |
| Which is true. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I kind of like it if a woman simps. | |
| You know? | |
| I do too. | |
| I love it. | |
| It's actually, it takes a lot of pressure off me. | |
| I love it, but not enough for you to get rid of your roster and not have other women that you're seeing on the side. | |
| Because you're still forgetting that. | |
| You gotta be aware of that. | |
| She's impossible. | |
| No, no, because you're missing the point to where I said we were monogamous. | |
| Yes. | |
| And then she was saying that. | |
| Okay, but now she got her. | |
| So now she got her stuff together. | |
| So you get your stuff together. | |
| Both of you stop playing games. | |
| Both of you get married. | |
| Who said we wasn't going to do that, though? | |
| You. | |
| No, we'll still do it. | |
| It'll just be on my. | |
| Yeah, it'll still be on my time, though. | |
| But it didn't go unnoticed. | |
| It didn't go unnoticed. | |
| I'm saying you guys have both established throughout this entire podcast that there you guys are. | |
| You know, in this mentality there are hardly any good women out there. | |
| And you are saying that you have a great woman, don't let her go once you leave this podcast. | |
| I didn't do you think you being less available than she would like makes you more attractive to her? | |
| Uh, absolutely subconsciously it does. | |
| Is that a? | |
| Is that a game, would you say, of being unavailable? | |
| Kind of no, because i'm not trying to play. | |
| I'm not. | |
| I'm not trying to play unavailable, i'm operating. | |
| I'm operating genuinely like this is. | |
| This is me. | |
| I have no ulterior motives. | |
| I'm not trying to make her feel a certain type of way. | |
| I'm just literally focused on me and where I want to be, and with that comes me. | |
| If other women are interested, then yeah, i'll talk to other women, i'll do other things. | |
| But it never gets too serious, it never goes too far. | |
| And at the end of the day, when I want to call somebody, when I want to talk to somebody, when I want to take somebody on a vacation vacation whatever, I call her, but what if she's just genuinely busy and has her own life too? | |
| That's fine. | |
| I never said anything against that. | |
| Yeah no, i'm like, I agree with you, except for like she shouldn't be the only one. | |
| I don't I don't stop her from doing anything she wants to do. | |
| Well, everything she does. | |
| Incentive for you to settle down with her if she actually finds you more attractive when you're less available, because i'm still doing things like this. | |
| So the only thing that would change is me just cutting off other women. | |
| No, but what would be? | |
| What would be the incentive for you, as in like, why would you ever want to give up this lifestyle if the more unavailable you are for her, the more she finds you attractive? | |
| Not this, not this lifestyle, just other women. | |
| The lifestyle stays the same. | |
| The the other women is what I mean. | |
| Yeah yeah, getting rid of the other women, that's easy. | |
| But why would you ever do that? | |
| I mean, it sounds like when you were fully available for her, she wanted you less. | |
| Right because because because, because she took it as a challenge and, I guess, as a motivation to improve herself. | |
| How old is she? | |
| You asked. | |
| I told you she's 27. | |
| Have you seen her like improvement ever since she, I guess, sabotaged you guys' relationship? | |
| Like, have you seen her actually trying to progress and improve herself? | |
| Yep, and that's, and that's what I respect. | |
| So yeah, at this point in my life, like I said I told you guys in the beginning, it's not all about me dating other women. | |
| It's about me trying to get somewhere where I want to be in my life, like financially yeah, I respect that and and i'm trying to accomplish certain things. | |
| So, but if you're waiting for that perfect moment, it's never going to come. | |
| I understand you're never going to make enough money to have feel comfortable. | |
| Yeah, I know I, I know that, I know, i'm well aware of that. | |
| That's why also, it's a matter of my discernment. | |
| So what i'm saying is um, I don't want to rush it, but at the same time, i'm still open to when it comes, and i'm not saying that's going to take years down the road. | |
| That could be next year, that could be in a couple months. | |
| But what i'm saying is i'm just going to operate on my time regardless. | |
| It's just going to. | |
| It's just, if she's still there, she's free to do what she wants, she's free to go wherever she wants she's free to be with whoever she wants. | |
| So when i'm ready, if she's still available and she's willing, then we'll make it work. | |
| But not sleeping with other people for you what she wants to do, because that grosses you out. | |
| Yeah no no, i'm saying if she slept with, if she no, if she slept with other people, that doesn't actually gross me out, because we met when she was in a relationship, so I know she slept with somebody else while we talked. | |
| Yeah, but you said you didn't want her to be because I know i'd lose her. | |
| I know i'd lose her. | |
| I'm saying what i'm saying is, if she's still there, the number one indicator that would be that she's no longer available is if she sleeps with somebody else. | |
| I'm saying I know she likes somebody else and at that point i've lost her. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| So that's, that's. | |
| That's what I use that as a proxy for. | |
| If I still have her, does she still love me? | |
| Is she still committed to me? | |
| Once she sleeps with another man, for that moment she may not like it it, you know, he it meant it might not work out, but for that moment if she told me, like listen, i'm interested in somebody else, i'm seeing somebody else and they sleep together. | |
| I'm operating under the presumption that she's moved on. | |
| Okay, so our next thing here. | |
| Nick, can you pull up the chat so I can see it? | |
| Yo, guys, one in the chat. | |
| Should I just start paying for first dates? | |
| Chat, do you think I should start one in the chat? | |
| Yes, Brian. | |
| Start, be a gentleman, start paying for first dates. | |
| Two in the chat. | |
| Nah, Brian, you're right. | |
| You are righteous. | |
| Stop. | |
| Don't continue. | |
| Oh, we got a couple twos. | |
| Don't pay for the first date, Brian, unless she has a large labia. | |
| One in the chat, one in the chat. | |
| It's like 50-50. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Seems like 50-50. | |
| Okay, I guess I'm going to pay for the first time. | |
| Nope. | |
| 50-50-50. | |
| That's enough to keep me stuck in my ways. | |
| Every podcast is stuck in my ways. | |
| There's a three. | |
| What's last? | |
| Yeah, I don't know what three is. | |
| I guess that's have her pay for the first date. | |
| That'd be nice. | |
| Last thing here. | |
| Does anybody here, like maybe you've seen the show before, does anybody here, aside from anything we've already talked about tonight, disagree with anything I've said in a previous show? | |
| Not off the top of my head. | |
| Any disagreements? | |
| The only show I ever watched before was the one I was in. | |
| Solipsism. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, like, I just, I disagreed a lot already on that show, but. | |
| Nothing. | |
| any final thoughts from anybody before Maddie you want to do a let's do a 15 minute after show Okay. | |
| Final thoughts from anybody? | |
| Speak now, forever. | |
| Hold your peace. | |
| I just want to say that for the guys that think like there's no good women anymore, there are plenty. | |
| There are tons of girls that have not gotten the juice, if you know what I mean. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| That are Christian, that are conservative, that want to leave a legacy through their family. | |
| There are women like that. | |
| Who are waiting for the right guy? | |
| Exactly. Okay. Bye. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| Final thought? | |
| Okay. | |
| I just think you should start paying for your first dates. | |
| I think not. | |
| No sign. | |
| We're never going to, like, I don't think we're ever going to see eye to eye. | |
| Stochastic Decay donated $99. | |
| Stochastic Decay has a data science question for Russ P. How would you adjust the ratio calculation for women who hang out at clubs versus women who hang out at libraries? | |
| I'm open to non-traditional methodologies. | |
| I mean, I still think it'd be the same math, though. | |
| Oh, God. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| You can't knock out the girls who hang out at the library because they get down to. | |
| But it's still the same math because they got less opportunities than the girls at the club, so it's still about the opportunities you took. | |
| Word? | |
| Okay, guys. | |
| Last call. | |
| We're going to do a brief 10, 15 minute after show with Madison here as your host. | |
| Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out. | |
| Thank you for tuning in tonight. | |
| You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, supports the show. | |
| Thank you to the panel for coming. | |
| Appreciate it, guys. | |
| Thank you to all our chat mods. | |
| Thank you to Britt, who's helping with timestamps. | |
| Any women who want to be on the show, DM out, whatever. | |
| We will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. or excuse me, Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific. | |
| We're changing the time. | |
| It's going to be a different show, the Tuesday show. | |
| I'll just reveal it. | |
| We're going to have, I don't know if any of you saw that Netflix documentary about the American Gladiators. | |
| We're going to have an American Gladiator panel. | |
| It's going to be a little different. | |
| It's going to be a smaller panel. | |
| But I wanted to, you know, do something a little different, something new. | |
| If you guys aren't interested in that, it's probably going to be a little more tame. | |
| But if you aren't interested in that, we will be back with our normal dating talk on Sunday. | |
| But Tuesday, 5 p.m., we have the American Gladiator Special Edition, whatever, Dating Talk podcast. | |
| So be sure to tune in for that. | |
| Anyways, guys, we'll see you next time. | |
| Good night, guys. | |
| We are doing an after-show. | |
| So if you want to stick around for 10-15 minutes, yeah, go for it. | |
| Oh, and you guys, if you guys want, you don't have to stick around for the after-show. | |
| I know we're getting late here, so if you want to dip. | |
| I don't even know what you do in the after-show. | |
| I know. | |
| Is this where the orgy comes in? | |
| Like the other after-show. | |
| No. | |
| No, no. | |
| Yeah, what happened? | |
| How does it look like? | |
| Right, like how we have to sign like that. | |
| The real conversation. | |
| Nick, if you could hit the lights. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| After show begins now. | |
| Honestly, basically. | |
| Oh, wait, last thing, last thing. | |
| I've set that the TTS for the after-show is 69, and we'll do, we'll read like 1999 and up, so like 1999. | |
| And Madison, you want to sit here? | |
| Sure. | |
| Are you just like asking the questions for the after show? | |
| Kind of. | |
| I'll explain. | |
| Does it get heated? | |
| Like, I'm curious. | |
| I am going to use, I'm going to go to the bathroom first. | |
| I'm very intrigued. | |
| I'm very Johnny. | |
| Welcome to the after-show, everyone. | |
| So basically, we haven't done an after-show in a very, very long time. | |
| When was the last time we did an after show, Nick? | |
| Like, Literally, yeah, a month and a half ago. | |
| But basically, after basically on the after-show, it's just like a little more intimate conversation, you know. | |
| We try to gear less away from what we actually talk about on the actual panel and all this like controversial shit. | |
| Just try to get to a little bit, know a little bit more about you guys. | |
| Are we still streaming right now? | |
| Yes, we are still streaming right now. | |
| And yeah, we're a little more intimate with the chat and the viewers as well. | |
| They can ask us more questions. | |
| Did you do it, Nicholas? | |
| Did you do it? | |
| Is it lowered? | |
| I think probably. | |
| Okay. | |
| One moment. | |
| Let me just try to. | |
| That's finally my room, though. | |
| Should I? | |
| Did we ever go? | |
| Did we ever read this one? | |
| Yeah, we did. | |
| Oh, was that gone? | |
| Was it about reading? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I didn't read it this side. | |
| Okay, we're going to see all the pressures in a minute. | |
| Maddie said she's not traditional. | |
| Attack Maddie. | |
| When did I ever say that? | |
| When did I ever say that? | |
| Ask you a question. | |
| Ask you a question? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| I wanted to talk to you. | |
| What is your type, Q? | |
| What is your type? | |
| What is my type? | |
| What's everyone? | |
| What is, yeah, I want to go around the table. | |
| What is everyone's type? | |
| Okay. | |
| My type is fit. | |
| Not a thought. | |
| I don't like women who party in club or who are always out. | |
| I like women with some substance. | |
| I like women who like to read a book, like a girl that I can take to the library or I can take to a museum. | |
| I love amusement parks, so I also like a girl who loves roller coasters. | |
| Physically, what's your type? | |
| Physically. | |
| Do you have a type? | |
| That's cute. | |
| As long as she's not overweight and she has a nice waist-to-hip ratio, I'm good. | |
| What do you think about that? | |
| Do you have any Christian girls? | |
| Christian girls. | |
| I mean, I don't really think much about girls based on their religion. | |
| If she's attractive, she's attractive. | |
| Are you religious at all? | |
| Am I religious? | |
| No, not as much as I used to be. | |
| I still have some spirituality in me, but not religious. | |
| I don't, you know, I'm not in the church every Sunday. | |
| I'm not praying every day like I used to. | |
| But yeah, it doesn't really matter. | |
| I'm not really big on religion like that. | |
| It doesn't matter as long as she's attractive physically. | |
| Okay. | |
| Alex? | |
| Absolute sucker for brunette, bearded. | |
| That is my jam. | |
| Almost exclusively brunettes. | |
| I think all of my exes look like they could be brothers. | |
| Always brunette bearded. | |
| Almost always. | |
| Besides, like, so like Brian. | |
| Similar to Brian. | |
| Yes. | |
| I like tall, dark, handsome. | |
| That is physically, that's my type. | |
| Do I like proposed to you right now? | |
| No. | |
| We do not have enough stuff aligned. | |
| But wait, you don't want to get married. | |
| I would say also I'm very attracted to kind of Eastern European guys or Middle Eastern. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think of Romanian dudes? | |
| Yeah, Romanian, very attractive. | |
| What about American-born British citizens that moved to Romania who are currently under criminal investigation? | |
| Oh, they're likely going to get off. | |
| Their last name rhymes with plate. | |
| They're also kickboxers. | |
| I'm not into bald. | |
| I'll say this. | |
| I like a full head of hair, not into bald. | |
| It's kind of superficial, doesn't it? | |
| A little superficial, but I think guys are a lot more superficial than they let on to. | |
| Great. | |
| What if you're bearded brunette? | |
| Who's more superficial? | |
| Men or women? | |
| Don't ask me that. | |
| Women. | |
| Women are more superficial. | |
| Question for everyone. | |
| Who is more superficial? | |
| Oh, who is more superficial? | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I've heard. | |
| I will say, I think it's about 50-50, honestly. | |
| It honestly just depends. | |
| It really does. | |
| Because biologically, men tend to value physical attraction. | |
| Yeah, we value it. | |
| More than women do. | |
| I think women are willing to make more concessions. | |
| Like, if you're really funny or y'all struggle though, I'm not a child to you, but you make me laugh. | |
| My biggest problem is I date guys a lot of the time. | |
| I date them for personality and not looks, and then I find myself very unattracted to them. | |
| But people changed me. | |
| Like, I might meet someone and think he's really hot, and then after I start to get to know him, I don't even know why. | |
| When you're first looking, I feel like I'm a little bit iffy about when people say, like, I date people for personality, because I honestly think everyone dates people for personality. | |
| Yeah, because you could be like the hottest person. | |
| As soon as I see something like that just gives me the ick. | |
| But it's also like when you're going out looking for people to be your significant other, you're looking for attraction initially. | |
| You need to have like both, but like I think there's an energy thing, and that's why I prefer to meet someone when I'm out and about in life versus like a dating app or something because then you kind of are just judging by like a picture. | |
| But if you start having an amazing conversation with someone, they're going to become like a lot cuter than if you just like saw them or make an app and we're swiping. | |
| Do you guys ever find that more attractive people are less what you're looking for in personality? | |
| I don't want to say I have bad personalities. | |
| Always. | |
| I almost always, like, the guy at the bar, whatever that I'm attracted to, that I point out to my friends and I'm like, he's cute, they would probably say he's a six or a seven. | |
| Always. | |
| Because if they know his personality, no, they're just saying, like, to me, I'm like, that's the cutest guy in the bar. | |
| And my friends were like, my friends, if they were going to rate him, would probably say six or seven. | |
| Yeah, me and my friends never have the same type at all. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's good. | |
| That's a really good thing. | |
| You don't have to worry if you and your friends have the same type. | |
| Then that could be trouble. | |
| That's probably always getting into it. | |
| A lot of guys, or a lot of girls don't like bonds. | |
| We have a TTS. | |
| Should men adjust their rate? | |
| Can you actually, I'll do it. | |
| Wait, I don't know how to do it actually. | |
| Do you want to put it back up, Nick, please? | |
| I don't know if that TTS back up. | |
| Go to the just full of suit chats. | |
| Wait, wait. | |
| Go to the sorry. | |
| Oh, there's nothing. | |
| It was a TTS. | |
| I'll pull it up when I sit back down. | |
| Okay. | |
| Anyway. | |
| Go on with what's your type? | |
| Oh, you have a boyfriend, right? | |
| Okay. | |
| Are we talking about physical type? | |
| Both. | |
| Physical and personality. | |
| Personality, I think, you know, definitely articulate, intelligent, able to have like a good conversation. | |
| I really love traveling, so someone who loves traveling and trying new things. | |
| I love trying new foods and just kind of adventurous things in general. | |
| Hiking nature, but yeah, someone who is kind of willing to learn. | |
| I think life is all about learning. | |
| So definitely that. | |
| From a physical standpoint, height is important to me. | |
| So probably someone who's at least a few inches taller than me. | |
| How tall are you? | |
| I'm 5'6. | |
| So I'd say like at least like 5'9, 5'10, something like that. | |
| It's reasonable. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And yeah, fit, someone who takes care of their body. | |
| And I like beards too. | |
| Beard gang. | |
| That's right. | |
| So for physical, I like a beard. | |
| So we connected. | |
| Everyone likes beards. | |
| I like a beard. | |
| I have, I mean, I like a fit. | |
| I like someone who like can, like, I wouldn't say fit. | |
| Like, you don't have to be like jacked out, but you do have to be. | |
| Be healthy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because I don't really, it's just not a turn on if you're not. | |
| But for what was the other one? | |
| Is physical? | |
| Just personality. | |
| Yeah, physical personality. | |
| Physical and personality. | |
| You got to be funny, or at least like try. | |
| Try to be fun. | |
| Try and fail to get it. | |
| Try to be funny. | |
| You have to be like, I don't know, like adventurous. | |
| You have to be willing to explore. | |
| Like, you can't be the type that's like, oh, no, I don't want to do it. | |
| Like, I don't, I don't like that if you don't like to explore your options. | |
| Like, yeah, I get you. | |
| With like the beard thing, just like a random question. | |
| Have you ever found it like giving you like acne? | |
| Oh my god, not acne, but I will, it looks like carpet burn. | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| Yeah, because I was gonna say, I think when beards, they are, I could say they're attractive, but every like when my boyfriend grows out his facial hair a little bit, I notice that I always just get like a pimple there. | |
| I get itchy, like dry it. | |
| There's like a little bit of itch. | |
| It needs to be like a little bit longer when it's too short. | |
| It's just like attractive but not functional. | |
| But I like when it's all grown out. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, she likes long blonde hair and man. | |
| Really, we know who we know. | |
| Like Chris Hounsmer. | |
| I do not like long hair on guys. | |
| Really? | |
| I love long hair so much. | |
| No, we're almost like I found guys attractive that have long hair, but at personal preference, I wouldn't like it either, I think. | |
| Because like, I don't know, there's something about it. | |
| Like, we're supposed to be like cavemen living off the land. | |
| Like, I don't know, it's just like a lot hotter to me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, personality-wise, what do you like for them? | |
| Sense of humor is like a huge, huge thing for me, but there's also like an energetic perspective. | |
| Like, I think there's some people that you meet that just bring your brings your energy up right away, and you're just like laughing and all on the same page. | |
| And then there's some people that just drain your energy. | |
| So, I think that's like super important, which is also why I prefer to meet people in real life. | |
| But yeah, like deal breakers, sense of humor. | |
| I could never date a liberal or a moderate ever. | |
| Yeah, I think I got that from like the last humor. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I feel like one thing that I've not even that I've looked for in someone, but I've just found being in a relationship with my boyfriend now was comfort and not just comfort in the way that it's just kind of like, oh, I feel comfortable just talking to you and telling you how I feel that, but also the fact that I'm like able to just come home from like a really long day of life, be excited to come home, be happy to come home. | |
| And the second I walk through the door, he's just like waiting there, like relieving my stress, you know, and that kind of comfort. | |
| I believe in like what Isaac, I know he's not here anymore, but what he said about like it being your best friend. | |
| I feel like when you're in like a good relationship, like they're like your best friend. | |
| You know, and you need the sexual aspect of it too, but like, I don't know. | |
| That's how I feel about like my current relationship right now. | |
| Like we were best friends before we ever were in a relationship. | |
| And with that being, it's just like we do everything together and we genuinely like doing everything together. | |
| People are always like, don't you guys ever get like tired of each other? | |
| Like, don't you ever need like a break from each other? | |
| And it's like, no, he's my best friend. | |
| Like, I want to do everything with him. | |
| Like, I'm happy doing everything. | |
| I don't think you should feel like you need to, or I just think that's probably not your person. | |
| It's like the place where you can come home to and be yourself because out in the world, depending on the situation, whether work, friends, family, you're always going to have some sort of conflict or maybe some defenses up. | |
| So having that person where you can just come home to and kind of be fully vulnerable and not have to have your defenses up, I think that's kind of the best friend thing. | |
| It sounds like that's what you're describing. | |
| Sometimes I find myself rushing home because I'm like, I don't want to see anybody else. | |
| Do you and your boyfriend live together? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, nice. | |
| Me too. | |
| We've lived together for like two years now. | |
| A good sign of that too is when you just like can't, something funny or weird happens during the day and you just like can't wait to go home until like babe. | |
| Guess what happened? | |
| I think I like it. | |
| I sponge it. | |
| I'm sorry to have abandoned you here, Q. | |
| It's okay. | |
| I know. | |
| It was the most dull conversation I've heard all night. | |
| What? | |
| We were getting really deep there. | |
| We're not into it. | |
| I want a spazzy guy that has Spongebob humor. | |
| That's my type. | |
| Like super weird, like more outgoing than me, like spazzy. | |
| What's your ideal person? | |
| Oh, hold on. | |
| I have a list ring. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me see. | |
| Like, physical and imagine, to be honest. | |
| I can't even imagine. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I really don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I feel like this is where you're about to put in the dig. | |
| Like, yeah, I can only see you dating cave trolls, Brian. | |
| Let me see. | |
| Yeah, I mean, I can date to your family. | |
| Yeah, Brian. | |
| I don't really like you, so I'm just going to say that. | |
| But you don't really like me either, so it's fine. | |
| I don't dislike you. | |
| You're just. | |
| We're just not each tiny babes. | |
| You're just you, you know? | |
| Yeah, neither is you. | |
| Just, you know. | |
| There's people I don't like a lot. | |
| Like, lot worse. | |
| Oh, you dislike me? | |
| No, I'm just like, I just like a lot more people. | |
| You're like, you're not like crazy, crazy on the low. | |
| You're not her top fucking ball. | |
| I'm in the middle. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, here we go. | |
| So we're talking physical appearance. | |
| Let's see. | |
| So, okay, you have deal breaker, deal maker, slight preference, strong preference. | |
| So slight, very slight preference for dark hair, very slight preference for blue eyes. | |
| But like, this is not like, I date women with dark eyes. | |
| Like, I don't really care. | |
| Medium preference for short women. | |
| The shorter, the better. | |
| So I'm trying to, if any of you know a dwarf, like, hook it up. | |
| I'm trying it's not even like Brenna does but it's a man It's so real. | |
| I'm so down for to go with a dwarf eye. | |
| I'm trying to get that guy. | |
| Fun size. | |
| Hello? | |
| I like being tiny. | |
| She can spin around. | |
| I like being tiny, but I like it. | |
| Yeah, in the same way that women like to be tiny, like it kind of works in the opposite way. | |
| Like, if she's petite. | |
| Yeah, I'm down for it. | |
| Fucking throw her around or whatever the fuck. | |
| I don't have blue eyes and I don't have brown hair and I'm not like midget tiny, but like, are you just kind of like? | |
| How much do you weigh? | |
| Why are you asking? | |
| Like, you're because I'm like, wait, wait, wait. | |
| Bro, you're engaged, dude. | |
| I'm not interested in it. | |
| Just be honest, you actually. | |
| She doesn't have blue eyes. | |
| I'm also like, wait, wait, wait. | |
| I don't have blue eyes and I don't have brown hair. | |
| It's hard to find a blonde with green eyes. | |
| You don't dye your hair? | |
| I can see the. | |
| Yeah, of course I dye my hair, but like I'm blonde right now. | |
| No, you're not blonde right now. | |
| You want a natural blonde? | |
| No, I don't want a blonde at all. | |
| You want a natural blonde? | |
| I prefer dark hair. | |
| I thought you said you didn't prefer dark. | |
| No, I prefer dark hair. | |
| Slight preference for dark hair. | |
| And wait, what about the blue eyes? | |
| Slight preference for blue eyes. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| But it's not like that's. | |
| So that was Brenna then. | |
| She has dark hair and blue eyes. | |
| Just keep going to chewist and we'll figure it out. | |
| Large labia. | |
| The bigger, the better. | |
| Right. | |
| Soft-spoken. | |
| Okay, so clearly not. | |
| Definitely. | |
| Bro, I kind of get the like, bro, you trying. | |
| What's up? | |
| It's obvious you're like super into me. | |
| Relax, dude. | |
| I'm not into dad bods. | |
| I do have a dad bar right now. | |
| I'm not into dad bods. | |
| I've been so dressed. | |
| I am. | |
| So just throwing that out. | |
| Green eyes or blue eyes? | |
| Hazel. | |
| She has hazel eyes. | |
| She's a brunette. | |
| How tall are you? | |
| Five four. | |
| She's pretty short. | |
| Too tall? | |
| Too tall. | |
| No, I'm not saying that for Brian. | |
| I'm just saying in general. | |
| I likely a midget. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, fuck. | |
| Dwarf, excuse me. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| I'm canceled now. | |
| I'm fucking canceled. | |
| Fuck. | |
| Little person. | |
| Little person is the correct. | |
| Her parents made her do at least three years of violin or cello. | |
| Very important. | |
| Very specific instruments or any instruments. | |
| Piano does not count. | |
| Piano. | |
| I did a little bit of piano. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about the triangle? | |
| Oh, no makeup. | |
| No plastic surgery. | |
| No fake tits. | |
| No lipo, no BBL, no lip injections. | |
| Minimal makeup. | |
| No fake nails. | |
| Slight preference for like if she has fake nails, whatever. | |
| It's all explained. | |
| No, I know exactly where Brian's gonna find this girl. | |
| A national park is where like an outdoorsy chick. | |
| Yes, that's who you're describing exactly. | |
| I don't like it. | |
| You could say previous to that. | |
| You don't like outdoorsy. | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| Because they be trying to camp and shit. | |
| Brian's a glam. | |
| I got the flannel. | |
| I don't like camping. | |
| Or like a hiker. | |
| They don't like to camp. | |
| They just outside. | |
| You literally last show asked me how I wipe myself after taking a shit with my nails without getting dirty. | |
| And I'm just why do you have this problem without your without long nails? | |
| And you're like, wow, she must have a really big problem if it happens to me on the daily and I don't even have those things. | |
| Like, I've just heard. | |
| I've heard anecdotes from chicks who got the long ass fake nails that they gotta wipe a certain way. | |
| Yeah, you have to. | |
| What actually is crazier? | |
| I don't. | |
| That doesn't matter. | |
| Have you ever heard? | |
| But what I think is crazier is how I can take my contacts in and out with them. | |
| That's like a crazier thing. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| Order in the court. | |
| Stochastic decay donated $69. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Stochastic Decay is morbidly obese. | |
| However, Stochastic Decay has a lot of opportunities to eat junk food. | |
| Based on the ratio of opportunities, stochastic decay doesn't actually eat that much. | |
| Stochastic Decay is going to start eating. | |
| I don't get it. | |
| But to be morbidly obese, then you actually did have to have ate a lot more than you're. | |
| Oh. | |
| Cameron Seodon donated $70. | |
| For men aged late 30s, early 40s, who are still attracted to girls 18 to 22, would you say it gets harder as we get older? | |
| Should we scale our age to older women? | |
| Shouldn't we scale our age? | |
| Wait, yeah, you definitely should scale. | |
| Should older men try to be attracted to older women as they get. | |
| I wouldn't say it is harder as men get older because younger women look for older men. | |
| Right. | |
| Well, I mean, you need to, like, once you start getting into your 30s and 40s, like, you can't be like, you need to be really solid if you're going to be like dating younger women. | |
| Like, it's. | |
| It's like it makes sense to be attracted to younger women. | |
| Younger women look younger and are prettier, generally. | |
| But it should be a bud. | |
| Less bodies. | |
| But then you also, intellectual compatibility is important to you. | |
| You may be in different places in your life. | |
| So then from that standpoint, maybe not. | |
| It just depends on what you're looking for, I think. | |
| Q, what's your standpoint on like cosmetic surgery? | |
| Do you find it unattractive? | |
| Yes. | |
| Like very unattractive. | |
| Is it like a duo? | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| No offense, Kristen. | |
| Christy, sorry. | |
| The only thing I have are my boobs. | |
| And I just got them six weeks ago. | |
| I don't have anything in my face and I look great for 33. | |
| I'm not like pro-plastic surgery, but I am not against getting a boob job. | |
| Or if someone really needs a nose job or something, like I'm not against it. | |
| I don't have to do that. | |
| I just got the boobs because I like them. | |
| Do you think you can like easily tell when a girl has something done? | |
| Yeah, it doesn't look natural. | |
| It looks asymmetrical. | |
| And like, I'm going to use you as an example. | |
| I can tell those aren't yours. | |
| Yeah, obviously. | |
| There's six weeks. | |
| They haven't even dropped yet. | |
| Literally, just on Tuesday, Tuesday was the first day that I could actually go without wearing a compression bra and officially start working out again. | |
| But like, look at my face. | |
| Like, I don't have work done to my face. | |
| I don't have any plastic. | |
| Take off a menu! | |
| I don't have any Botox. | |
| I don't have any filler. | |
| Pretty proud of my face for 33. | |
| All right, I'm going to read these chats and we're going to try to wrap this. | |
| Okay, should men adjust their age range as they older? | |
| I think we just. | |
| No, what if they're in their late 30s, early 40s, and are still attracted to girls 18 to 22? | |
| Oh, did. | |
| I think we just read that one. | |
| No, it was a little different. | |
| I really do think, though, that the older you get, you should adjust it a little bit higher. | |
| But I feel like for men, it doesn't really matter because I feel like the odor men get, they're always going to be desired by younger women. | |
| That's true. | |
| Yeah, but we have to think about it in a context of everyday life as well. | |
| Like, they can be attracted to 18 to 22-year-olds, but pursuing is different. | |
| You really have to have your shit together, and you have to be really, really attractive at that age to attract a woman that young. | |
| Yeah, I mean, it's like Leonardo DiCaprio. | |
| I was just thinking. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And I mean, he's Leo. | |
| He also attracts the younger woman because he has that sense in his status. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| But should men adjust their age range as they get older? | |
| Well, if you're not attractive enough as an older guy, you said late 30s, early 40s, to get a younger woman, then, yeah, I mean, unless you just don't want, like, unless you're just purely, absolutely 100% not attracted to older women. | |
| But yeah, if you can't get women 18 to 22, then probably you're not in a very strong negotiating position. | |
| And speaking of like the plastic surgery thing, I think there's a lot of girls that get plastic surgery or like preventative Botox or whatever way too young and they start actually looking older than the girls that don't do that stuff. | |
| So also this idea that plastic surgery makes women look younger. | |
| You look at the menu. | |
| No, I don't think it's the BBO culture. | |
| It makes your face look wider. | |
| Here's a hot take when it comes to plastic surgery. | |
| I think it makes women look worse. | |
| I do too. | |
| I do too. | |
| It's not even a neutral. | |
| That's the only thing I... | |
| More so on, like, your face, though. | |
| I think it makes you look a lot worse. | |
| All right, we have a chat here. | |
| Madison, can you read this one? | |
| The light of a reason can move us towards God, but through faith we are pierced by God's unapproachable light. | |
| For when we contemplate, is there a first principle? | |
| I'll pull back up. | |
| The mind has already ascended beyond itself. | |
| God is beyond knowledge and unknowing. | |
| All right, there you have that. | |
| Okay, we have Sniper Dose. | |
| Can you read this one? | |
| Brian, one person I would like for you to bring on the panel is at Vanessa Isenick. | |
| She's an OF Street vendor activist, donates all her OF earnings to charity and civil rights organizations. | |
| I'm calling bullshit on that. | |
| All her earnings. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Just like, yeah, just like all BLMs are on around the black community. | |
| Girls are going around. | |
| They're buying stuff here and they're like, guess how I pay for it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Please bring Chrissy back as a regular. | |
| She asks comedic humor. | |
| Need a surgery update too. | |
| Well, I just got these though, but being funny is the best compliment for me I could get. | |
| So way, way, way more than looks. | |
| All right, we have Jay Allen here. | |
| I think he meant to send this as craziest place you've done the deed, go. | |
| A lighthouse in Hawaii, a public lighthouse in Hawaii. | |
| I don't know if I can answer. | |
| Because they're embarrassed or it's not with the guy on wait. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No comment. | |
| I don't have any. | |
| I've never done the deed in a crazy place. | |
| Beach? | |
| No, not even. | |
| My public lighthouse video is on My OnlyFans if you wanted to see what it looked like. | |
| It was way, way before I made My OnlyFans. | |
| My hair is black in it. | |
| It was when I was a Pilates instructor, and it is with my ex-boyfriend. | |
| Haram. | |
| A cue, aquarium, aquarium. | |
| Wow. | |
| In the actual water. | |
| No. | |
| In the water with the fish, yeah. | |
| Yeah, with the shark. | |
| Like those dark tunnels, those dark tunnels that you walk through, like right before you go in. | |
| It was a secluded corner. | |
| I know exactly what kind of tunnels she had. | |
| She had it. | |
| She had on a sundress. | |
| I was horny. | |
| That's why I like what the turtles and stuff are, you know. | |
| What would you have done if someone came by? | |
| Were you like thinking about that at all? | |
| I go ahead and finish what I was doing. | |
| It's already too late at that point. | |
| I'm like, you already know. | |
| I'll just be like, don't tell the white bro. | |
| I'm stealing that idea for a video. | |
| I'm not going to lie. | |
| I just saw a video on TikTok of this couple getting confronted by the cops because they did it on a Ferris wheel. | |
| And they got arrested. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I know what you're talking about. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| I was just on a Ferris. | |
| I was like, I'm not sure if I'm not here, and me and Brennan were saying, we think people actually fuck on these things all the time. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, I'm fear. | |
| They make you take your picture before for the ride, before the Ferris wheel, because I think they don't accidentally want to get out on film because all the pictures are like out front. | |
| Yeah, I've had like a couple times. | |
| The beach for me. | |
| Oh, whoops. | |
| What? | |
| Okay. | |
| The beach. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's it. | |
| Hey, Brian, any plans on Michael Knowles coming back on the show? | |
| Still waiting for the much anticipated. | |
| Wait, hold on a little bit. | |
| What time at the beach? | |
| Like, was there a lot of people there? | |
| No, it was nighttime. | |
| Secluded. | |
| What's that? | |
| Like, pretty secluded. | |
| Yeah, there weren't other people. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, did you want to finish this, Maddie? | |
| Waiting for the much anticipated Brett Cooper episode. | |
| Also, do you guys still think a courier package delivery driver is a red flag for a profession? | |
| no to that last part uh michael knowles maybe i we were gonna have him on a while ago but like it fell through and And then we'll try to get him back on. | |
| We are going to have on Thursday the 7th, we're going to do an off day, Thursday the 7th. | |
| We're going to have, I don't want to reveal it. | |
| Good behavior. | |
| Don't reveal it. | |
| Don't reveal it. | |
| Yeah, I'm not going to reveal it, but we are going to have a Daily Wire guest on the 7th. | |
| Pretty sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think we're all caught up. | |
| Oh, wait, we have this. | |
| Question for the blue dress. | |
| Who is Aaron Pizzy, Terrence Pop, or Tom Likens? | |
| Your hit, YouTube hit, nothing not said before. | |
| Good luck, have fun. | |
| I don't know what any of that means. | |
| Sorry. | |
| From New Zealand. | |
| Okay. | |
| Thank you, Angry Casper. | |
| Thank you for the membership. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Any final thoughts, anybody? | |
| Can we see what your main girl looks like? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Not on stream. | |
| But can you show just us? | |
| Like, just pass it around. | |
| After the show, if she wants to. | |
| I can show y'all that thing. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| Well, you think so. | |
| I just want to see. | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| You're so judgmental, Chris. | |
| You're so judgmental. | |
| No, I really just want to see. | |
| Wait, what is your type? | |
| Did you answer that? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think I missed it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I just like an attractive girl who's not overweight, who has a good waist to hip ratio. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I like substance. | |
| So I like somebody I can go to the library with or I can go to the museum with. | |
| I agree with the substance thing. | |
| I hate when I say that. | |
| For drag queen story hour. | |
| I said for drag queen story hour. | |
| I'm just joking. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| Hope you enjoyed the after show. | |
| We will see you Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific for the American Gladiator special edition, whatever dating talk podcast. | |
| It's going to be a little different than our normal panel, so if you fuck with it, sweet. | |
| If not, no worries. | |
| 07's in the chat. | |
| Good night, boys. | |
| Good night, guys. |