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May 30, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #77

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Anyways, without further ado, after that thoroughly long-winded introduction, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hello, my name is Jules.
Thank you so much for having me on.
I'm 22 years old, and I'm currently a bartender and server.
All right, welcome.
My name is Liv Margre.
I'm 22 years old, and I'm an entrepreneur.
Entrepreneur?
What do you mean?
So I have a media company called Culture Sigma.
I also have a cosmetics company called Margaret Cosmetics.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you do any content creation?
Yeah, I do a lot of social media and modeling.
Okay.
OF?
You know, you can find out somewhere.
So yes, you also do a lot of.
Okay.
Have you done traditional adult content or just OF?
What do you mean trad?
Oh, like.
Corn.
Oh, no, no, no.
Okay.
All right.
Hi, I'm Vicki or Victoria or Victoria.
I'm 22 and I'm currently a creative director slash like everything.
I love like dipping my foot and everything.
Slash student?
Yeah, slash student.
I'm studying creative direction too at Art Center College of Design in Pasina.
Rock and roll.
What about you?
My name is Jessica and I'm a student at UCLA and I'm studying gender studies.
Wait, hold on.
Age again?
20, sorry.
20, and you studied gender studies.
Yes, I do.
Okay.
What's your political orientation?
I'm actually moderate, right-leaning.
Moderate right-leaning, and you studied gender?
I was originally when I started out kind of studying it, I was way more liberal and then kind of changed along the way.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
We'll get into that in just a sec.
Hey, by the way, I think, chat, are we streaming in 4K?
I tested something out with a new computer.
Can you guys let me know if the frame rate looks okay, if the audio sounds okay in terms of there's not like a desync, or if our oh wait hello, holy shit uh Twitch, hello is the bitrate scuffed on Twitch.
Hold on, i'll pull it up um.
Chat on Youtube.
First off it.
Are you able to load it in 4k?
Um, are you able to load the stream in 4k, guys?
And do you have oh 1440, only 1440.
Oh shit, okay.
The bit rate is scuffed apparently on Twitch.
2K, not 4K.
That's fine.
Does it look good though?
On YouTube?
1440?
Only 2K?
Okay.
Also, not sure if you guys sponsored this episode, too, though.
What's up?
Do we have a sponsor this episode?
Don't.
Later, it's later on in the show.
Fucking.
Okay.
And then Twitch, hold on, let me pull up.
Continue introducing yourselves, please, and I'm just going to check in on this.
Hi, I'm Shania.
I'm 25, and I work for a hotel.
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
My name is Jake.
I'm 25 years old.
I own a swimwear brand.
I also run a community called Irrational Optimism.
So shout out to all my IOs that are watching.
And I also do sales for one of my best friends' companies.
It's called Launch Socials.
And shout out to Launch Socials.
Which night reminder, you're 25, right?
Yep.
Okay.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Jamie.
I'm 25 years old, and I run a conservative women's magazine where we talk about fashion, politics, and culture.
And it's called The Conservator.
And I'm the founder and CEO.
Don't you have some presence in media too?
Yeah.
Like you, because I've your Instagram, like you're on Fox News, or are you a correspondent, or what was your I was an associate editor.
Associate Editor, Fox News.
Okay.
Did you have airtime though?
Or were you more behind the scenes?
More behind the scenes.
Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
Madison, what about you?
Hello, my name is Madison.
I'm 18.
What's your nickname?
I was just going to get to that.
Brian, also known as ArkDouche.
Arch Douche.
Archduke.
Archduke Francis Futum.
Archdouche.
All right, your name's Arch Douche from now on.
Arch Duke.
Go ahead.
You're 18.
Keep cutting me off.
I'm 18.
I'm a student at SBCC studying accounting.
Rock and roll.
Okay, cool.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
What is your current relationship status?
Are you single?
Are you in a situationship?
Friends with benefits?
Are you in a relationship, engaged?
Are you in a polycule?
Whatever it may be.
Go ahead.
Oh, Andrew, did I say Andrew, longest relationship?
Go ahead.
I'm in a serious relationship right now, and my longest relationship was about nine months.
That's not your current relationship, though?
No.
How long have you been dating this current six months?
Person?
Male, female?
Male.
Male?
Okay.
Six months.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Married to the money.
My longest relationship was five years.
So you're married to the money.
So you're single.
Married to the money, yeah.
So you're saying are you married to the money?
You're in a relationship with the money.
Yes.
Okay.
Does it please you?
Yeah.
Like romantically?
Not so.
All the way, everything, you know, mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually.
When's the last time you were on a date?
Oh.
Not with money, I guess.
Oh, like a few days ago.
Was it with the money?
Or was it with like a human being?
With both.
Really with the money.
So the guy paid for the date?
Yes.
Wait, really?
Yeah.
So it's like a sugar baby sugar.
What do you mean?
Oh, like he paid you money to go on a date.
Oh, no, I thought you were just saying like regular date.
Like regular date.
Okay, but he paid for the date.
I mean, should man pay for the date?
Yes.
Well, we'll get into that later on.
Okay, yeah.
So you're married to the money, but you were on a date a few days ago, was it?
But that's not like a relationship.
No.
What is it?
A date.
Was it the first date?
Just one date, and that's it.
Is there going to be a second date?
No.
It was that bad.
Was it bad?
It wasn't that bad, but it was okay.
And was it with a guy?
Was it with a girl?
It was a guy.
It was a dude.
Okay.
It's 2023.
You can't assume anymore.
You're right, you're right.
Okay.
So how many dates a week are you going on, would you say?
I've only been on like three dates in my life.
Three dates in your life?
Like with not boyfriends.
Okay.
So with boyfriends, I feel like it's not a date date.
But what about like, because what about like just meeting someone at the party or, you know?
Well, I consider a date like when you, someone's like, hey, I'm going to take you out to dinner and you're not like together and then you go to dinner and have a date or like or like the park or whatever, you know?
Okay.
I consider that a date.
But you are married to the money.
And you said your longest relationship was what again?
Five years.
Oh, five years.
And you're 22.
Yeah.
So was that in preschool or oh my god?
No, I was like 15.
So 15 to 20.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why did he dump you?
Well, actually, I was young and I cheated on him.
But I was young.
But he dumped you?
He dumped me, but then he wanted me back.
But I was like, no.
After you cheated on him?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
And so this is the five-year relationship that ended when you were 20.
You cheated on him just once?
Yes.
That yes was a little suspect.
Yes.
Was it with just, did you cheat like with just one dude or were they like?
It was with one guy, but like obviously with that one guy, it was like I kind of had like two boyfriends at one time.
Situation.
So was your, you had, he was the side piece.
Well, I had my boyfriend and then I had like another guy.
The other guy was the side chick.
Yeah, but it was because, well, I was with my main boyfriend, but like, you know, things weren't going well.
Yeah.
Things weren't going well, you know what I mean?
So no excuse.
I don't condone in cheating.
Never would do it again.
But I was young and he like took my virginity and everything, you know what I mean?
So we were like, you know, and then things happened, you know?
So this was like a high school relationship?
Yeah, basically.
It was like my first, you know.
Or did you drop out of junior high school?
No.
Okay, you did go to high school.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
Did you go to college, by the way?
I forgot to ask.
Yes, I'm in college.
Oh, you're currently in college.
Okay, what are you studying?
Pre-law.
Pre-law?
You want to be a lawyer?
Possibly.
Possibly.
Or a.
What else can you do with if you're pre-law?
I mean, what?
Well, I mean, right now, yes.
Because you don't have to go to lawyers.
Because the thing is, I don't know if I'm going to use the degree.
So I'm doing it, but I don't know if I'm going to keep doing it, you know?
Right.
You're getting the prerequisites or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So is that the major, though?
Pre-law?
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
Pre-law.
So you get your degree in pre-law.
Okay.
And then if you're so inclined, you could go to law school.
But okay, so let's get back to your five-year relationship.
So you cheat on him.
Was it just like, was the writing on the wall kind of, you know?
What do you mean, was it writing on the wall?
Was the writing on the wall for the relationship?
Well, I mean, basically, he found out and then he broke up with me.
And then he wanted to get back together, but it didn't work out for me.
Hold on just one sec.
Eric, can you put the audio on, please?
It's muted right now.
Cool.
Sorry, go ahead.
But it didn't work out because he couldn't trust me anymore, obviously.
And also, I didn't want to do that to him because I feel like we kind of grew up apart.
So it was more like, you know, it was my first relationship type thing.
And we kind of were just growing apart.
So it wasn't working anyway.
But I was like afraid to leave at the time, you know, because I was like, oh, my first love type thing, but it wasn't like working out.
Like, cheat back on you or not?
I don't know.
You don't know?
Okay.
But you cheated on him.
Did he discover it or did he tell him?
He discovered it.
He discovered it.
Like he walked in?
No.
Oh, my God.
And saw.
No, He hacked my iPad.
He hacked your iPad?
Don't use your iPad.
I got two of those.
I gotta be careful.
Did you notice he like text with him or something?
Yeah, he hacked my iPad and literally broke my iPad.
He freaked out?
Yes.
I was sleeping and he like woke me up and like literally broke my iPad.
Yeah.
But he was like so sad about it and stuff and I felt really bad.
Did he punch a hole in the wall?
No, but he was like, never mind.
I'm not talking about it.
Did he know the other guy you cheated on him with?
Don't answer that.
Answer it.
Were they friends?
No.
No, I would not.
Wait, brothers?
What?
Stepbrothers.
Wait, father?
Stepbrothers.
It was his dad.
It was his dad.
Wait, was it?
No, I'm kidding.
Was it actually his dad?
No, no, no.
You can be honest.
It was his dad.
Yeah, it was his dad.
It was his dad.
Okay.
His dad's good looking.
It wasn't his dad.
Oh, my God.
Oh, you hooked up with the dad.
She did too.
I could have.
You got with the dad.
Okay, got it.
Okay, this is quite a love triangle you guys have going on here.
So, okay.
So.
I don't condone any cheating at the end of the day, and I would never do it again.
It was a one-time thing.
I had another boyfriend never cheated on him.
But then you said he wanted to get back with you?
Yes.
Did you take him back?
No.
I didn't.
That's an L as a dude to get cheated on and then break up with your girlfriend and ask to get back.
Right?
Strange.
Because he actually came to me.
He's like, I realized I wasn't treating you the right way.
Like, I want to treat you the right way.
And that's why you did that to me type thing.
Which, I mean, it's not, I mean, I don't condone any cheating.
Like I said, there's no excuse to what I did, but I mean, obviously he wasn't treating me the right way.
So kind of.
Good times.
Okay, maybe we'll come back to that later.
What about you?
Current relationship status?
Oh, just closer to the mic.
You can't see it.
I'm like, I'm like single, I guess, but I'm not like looking for anyone.
Single, you guess.
I got married.
So is there low-key?
You're claimed.
I'm busy in life.
You're claimed low-key.
Cleaning Jesus.
Yeah, clearly.
Amen.
Wait, so you're claimed?
Yes.
By a dude?
I belong to myself, period.
Kind of.
I don't know.
You're married to yourself?
Yeah.
I've heard of people that marry themselves.
I'm here for that.
Is that a thing?
There was like some story.
Really?
100%.
What?
I need to know more.
It seems like a very freaking thing.
So is there currently any guy in the picture, like a guy you've recently been on a couple dates with?
Any of them?
I have people in my life that I have love for and that have love for me.
I have people I go on dates with.
Just dates are fun.
But like, I'm so focused on school, it's like, I don't even give it the time of day.
You have people in your life who you have love for and they have love for you.
What does that mean?
It's just like, you know, like I'm busy and I push everyone away and I'm just like not invested in like getting into a relationship.
But like if I was going to, I have people that I might consider dating.
So you got some sneaky links.
No, it's not a sneaky link.
I mean it's celibate.
I'm celibate.
I'm celibate as fuck.
You're celibate as fuck?
Yeah.
What?
It's been like a fortnight?
No, I just 14 days.
14 days.
You're celibate as fuck.
When's the last time you uh I'm not do I have to answer that?
Well, I mean you said you're celibate.
How long have you been celibate?
How about that?
My whole life.
Huh?
You've been celibate your whole life?
That's cap.
Is it true?
You're friends with her.
I actually know the truth, but why don't you just say it?
So it's just captain.
Just say, that's a good thing.
I don't know.
I'm just not interested in anyone right now.
It's not that long.
Wait, so what?
I mean, that's not my business.
That's why I love you.
But it's a good answer to celibacy if you want.
You want me to tell them?
No, no, no.
Later, me and you can break my celibacy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because, you know, you vote for me and might be like, we love it.
You're feeling me.
Wait, so, okay.
You're celibate.
Question mark.
Yeah, I guess so.
I'm just not interested in anyone.
Have you ever had a period of non-celibacy?
That's such a well-worded question.
Yeah.
The gears are turning.
I'm going to drag it out.
Why can't I just be someone who's like, doesn't, who can't answer?
Yeah, I've had periods of non-celibacy, I guess.
How long?
Okay, so you're not.
So you have had sex at least once.
Yeah.
At least once.
At least one time.
Yeah.
Okay.
At least once.
Okay.
Well, you were kind of angling there to...
You were kind of angling there to...
It sounded like you were going to try to say you were virgin, but.
I'd love to be a virgin.
But alas, that is not the case.
Well, clearly, because you've already said you're not.
I feel like I'm gonna answer this question on a contingency.
So okay, look, you said you're celibate as fuck, right?
Yeah.
How long have you been celibate?
I was going to answer that question one day.
It's kind of long.
Don't answer it.
Kind of long.
Kind of long.
It's a good thing.
Like, oh, the period of her celibacy is kind of long.
You know what?
Three weeks.
That's not true, but that's the.
Longer than three weeks?
I think the longer the better.
I don't think it's embarrassing for you to be like, eh, it's been fucking four score and seven years.
I don't know.
It's been four score and seven years ago.
Many moons have passed.
What's the score?
Is score five or is it ten?
Many moons have passed.
Wait, score is ten, right?
Many moons have passed.
Chat is.
Many full moons.
Chat is score ten.
Any case.
So, what, like, it's been a year?
How long?
Just answer the question, please, so I can move it along.
I really don't want to.
Are you playing the fifth?
I played the fifth, yeah.
All right, whatever.
Okay, what about you?
Oh, I've been in a relationship for two years now.
Okay, two-year relationship.
All right.
What about you, Shania?
I'm single, and my longest relationship was roughly seven months.
Seven months?
Oh, by the way, guys, Eric, can you find the photo of her dad?
Her dad's a famous rock star musician.
Wait, before, because there's some people who are in the middle of the day.
Yeah, there's my name is Rockstar.
You have to Google it, I'm pretty sure.
Or wait, actually, it might be in one of the folders.
I'll look for you really quick.
But guys, if you want to guess in the chat, some of you might already know.
80s hair metal band, right?
Sure.
If you sing the song, we don't have to pull up a photo.
Oh, but I'm not the musician in the family, so.
Round and round.
There you go.
Get it, dude.
Okay, in the chat, who's her dad?
Wait, don't say me, by the way.
Okay, that was corny.
Eric, can you find a picture?
I'm going to have to, like.
I'm going to have to tell you.
Yeah, I'm going to have to.
Wait, Eric, Eric, do you remember how to do a full mute?
I'll say it to you.
Mute it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, just press the button real quick.
Do a few.
It's break.
Yeah.
Robin Crosby.
Okay, you can.
That's what I thought, yeah.
Just Google it.
Okay.
All right, that's what it's like.
All right.
Did you guys hear that?
Hopefully not.
This picture better be worth it.
Yo, is our Twitch scuffed?
Oh, video is fine on Twitch.
Hey, Twitch mods, can you just in our Twitch chat, can you guys tell me if there's any dropped frames on Twitch or is the video okay?
Just keep me apprised to that.
And then mods on YouTube.
Is the frame rate okay?
Is it all good?
Wait, hello?
Sydney, huh?
Okay, wait, so single seven months.
Okay, we'll keep moving while you find that.
Did you find that like blue photo with the guitar?
I know exactly what you're talking about, and no.
Oh, you don't.
Come on, bro.
Does he look pretty in it?
He always looks.
All these pictures are pretty sick on some of the things.
Oh, wow.
What about the red background one?
Shania's dad was a legit GigaChad.
What is that?
True?
You don't know what a GigaChad is?
Okay, after you find a photo of GigaChad, too.
YouTube chat is acting weird.
Hello?
Eric, why don't you go ahead and pull it up?
Why not?
Yeah, I'm just talking about.
Yeah, that's fine.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, wow.
Wow, it's such a low-res potato photo, dude.
What about the purple one?
Scroll down.
Do you play instruments?
Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
Not at all.
The purple?
Do you think you're no music at all?
No.
There you go.
Giga Chad.
What's that thing?
What the fucking Wait is there There's a lot going on What What year was this?
How tall are you, Shania, by the way?
I am 6'2.
6'2.
And her dad was pretty tall, too.
Do you model?
Is this cringe?
I feel bad.
Bro, Robin with two B's.
Hello.
Did you ever graduate college, Eric?
Hello?
I'm teasing you.
You got a job.
Oh, it is?
Fuck.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I'm the college dropout then.
Fuck.
Okay.
and then giga chat find a photo of giga chat it's the can chat We have a GigaChad emote.
Can chat just spam GigaChad in the chat, please?
Just spam yeah, that's God.
Is that his name thing?
Click the one where it's GigaChad.
What does that mean?
It's a pretty dark photo, eh?
I love Crimson Chin.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Is that a lot of people?
Oh, my God.
Spam Brian, spam GigaChad in the chat.
I think my dad was a little fluffier than him, though.
Is that your type, though?
No, not.
GigaChad?
You're telling me GigaChad slides into your DMs and you're not going for it?
Hell no.
Hell no.
Absolutely not.
All right, if you say so.
What about you?
Your relationship status?
I'm single.
My longest relationship was about like two years.
Yeah.
Single two years.
Okay.
Eric, can you adjust the exposure on the camera?
Go ahead.
Your status.
So I'm married and I've been married for one and a half years.
And my husband and I had our first baby in December.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Congratulations.
You know what?
We actually have the baby in the studio, believe it or not.
Hold on.
Brian's going to hold a baby.
There you go.
Show us your motherly instincts, please.
Okay, you have to hold that the rest of the show, by the way.
Are you seriously?
Yeah.
Okay.
Actually, though.
Okay.
That's your daughter.
Go ahead.
My current relationship status, I'm taken.
And I've been with my boyfriend for almost 10 months, but my longest relationship in the past has been 10 months.
Okay.
Good times.
Okay, did you, wait, what were we going for?
Oh, let me do a couple chats here really quick.
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The stream doesn't appear to be FUBAR.
That's effed up beyond all repair tonight.
Like on Sunday, good work, Brian, and his team.
A CR learning GS major cap.
She probably somewhere between Mao and Stalin.
Oh, a CR.
Wait, what does CR stand for?
Learn.
I know what GS, gender studies.
Yeah, I don't know what to do.
She's probably somewhere between Mao and Stalin.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, we need to come back to that.
What?
Elaborate, please.
And then we have John Galt here.
You guys should get Farha back on the show.
She's cool and the respectful disagreement makes things entertaining.
Destiny 2, great podcast, Brian.
Keep it up.
Yeah, we're going to have Destiny back.
I think Farha, we have her next week.
So, yeah, we should have her back on.
Thank you, John Galt.
Really appreciate the donation, man.
Thank you.
And then we have Sweet Potato, or excuse me, Sweet Tooth.
Hey, Sweet Tooth.
Welcome back to the stream.
Thank you for all the support last show.
Really appreciate it.
You dropped a ton of memberships last show, so thank you so much.
That was a super stressful stream for me.
I was, yeah, it was technical issues out the wazoo.
So thank you.
She belongs to the streets.
Who's this in reference to?
Clarify, Sweet Tooth, 989.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
So let's go back to you really quick.
You study gender studies at UCLA.
Yes, I do.
But you consider yourself like moderate, right-leaning?
100%, yes.
But isn't gender studies like a pretty liberal major, yes.
Liberal, like 100% feminist.
Yes, and when I started out, I was very passionately liberal, like throughout high school.
And then kind of when I started getting into like politics, I guess, in middle school, I would have considered myself a liberal.
But kind of COVID, and then I went to a Black Lives Matter protest, and I had a pretty bad experience there.
I could get into that later on if you wanted me to, or if I could explain it now, whatever you want.
But yeah, just kind of spewed over into a lot of things.
And I noticed the world kind of just breaking down into chaos.
And I just had a switch, I guess.
Yeah.
And wait, so you're, remind me, you're 20, is that correct?
Correct.
When did you kind of switch to become more conservative?
Or moderate, I guess?
Like, 2020, I would say, is when it kind of started.
And then now, like, I very much can articulate my opinions, I guess.
I'm just curious, though.
I mean, you're studying gender studies, but I mean, it sounds like your switch occurred prior to you entering school at UCLA.
So why did you go into that field?
In the beginning of it, like COVID, I guess, I was still very socially liberal, but COVID just started to make me uneasy, I guess.
Right.
And just kind of all the censorship surrounding it.
And so that was just kind of the beginning of it.
And then I started with like the classes.
And I enjoyed them in the beginning, but then like I went to a Black Lives Matter protest and they I was walking with my friends and you know we're chanting doing the whole thing and then did you get jumped?
No, I was not jumped.
I was not jumped.
But these basically there's an interviewer there and I had like this sign and like me and my friends are having a good time and I'm like wanted to just shake the sign in front of the news reporter basically and she kind of just asked me a question.
She's like, oh why are you out here today?
And I was like, oh I believe in the principles of Dr. Martin Luther King, you know, and I believe in peace and equality and kind of the basic rundown, you know.
And then these two girls started like harassing me and the newscaster, they were just like, why would you interview a white girl at a Black Lives Matter protest?
This is ridiculous.
And then the girls came up to me and were like, next time, check your privilege and hand the mic over to a person of color.
And I just started.
Yeah, like I was just like, I was just out there talking about Martin Luther King and like spewing what you guys are supposed to be out here talking about.
And that's not even good enough.
So I just, that was the start of it.
And then I just started to see in media and pop culture that there was just this disdain towards white people.
And it's kind of alarming, quite honestly.
So you got red-pilled.
I got red-pilled.
Yes.
But also white-pilled because I moderate.
That's like another term for it.
I've never heard the white pill.
Yeah, white pill.
White pill?
Yeah, white pill.
Just like your senator.
Yeah, you're neither.
I guess it could be a purple pill because blue and red together makes purple.
It's that TikTok song.
It's like, oh, something.
She said she liked purple, so I blew her back out and left her on red.
Well, now get it?
Because don't let that go over your head because blue hair is purple.
Welcome to California, yeah.
I'm sorry.
No, no.
I can't even remember where I was going with that now.
Okay, but so you're studying gender studies, but you're still in it.
How do you not feel the need to just throw yourself off a building every time you're in a gender studies class?
I'll be honest, I don't go to class a lot, which kind of tells you something about gender studies.
Is it online?
You get away with that?
Yeah, I get away with it.
Are you going to switch your major?
Are you just going to try to?
No, I'm too far along.
Like, I would have to, I don't, I don't really like school.
I went and I started with gender studies because I was interested in it.
I knew I could get good grades and I knew I could get the degree.
And my grandma told me when I was a kid that nobody can ever take a degree away from you.
And that was just kind of important to me.
I didn't really give a fuck about what the major I chose was.
Yeah, no, I wanted to do something after more creative, like start a business or go on creative projects like content creation.
And I you know, I mean, I don't think I need a major for that.
I was going to say, with a gender studies degree, that's probably like the joke is often like you're basically unemployable.
Well, but with all the like DIE shit, you could probably like infiltrate like 100%.
That was my original plan.
I wanted to go into HR.
So there is a lot of people.
Like actually be based in HR, like not be a fucking cuck in HR.
Yeah, no, and I, that was kind of like my original plan with it, is to go into HR.
SYOP the HR department, exactly.
Yeah, do HR, but you can also like go and work in news or media.
You could go and run a business on your own, or you could become like a lot of, a lot of, sorry, like fire, not fire departments, police departments are actually looking for like DEI majors because why to appear more equitable.
Like failed society, equity, and inclusion, yeah.
Start learning Chinese, guys.
It's done.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what was I going to say?
I don't know.
Good times.
Yeah, it's good times.
I mean, I want to kill myself half the time.
Like when I, when, when the lecture slide comes up, it's that metaphor.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I'm not sure if you're a YouTube moderator.
I'm not sure if you can do it.
I'm so sorry.
I think it's good that your challenge can't talk about being in an environment that's opposite to what you believe.
Yeah, that was why I started college, and that's what I think was so fruitful about my experience.
Yeah, and like that is what ultimately made me decide to stick with it.
I was like, okay, I want to be fully armed with all of the opposing arguments so that I can not only create a decision for myself as to what do I believe, but also what, like, be able to argue it from both sides, basically, you know, and like have really nuanced conversations with people about it.
Yeah, I agree.
I went to Berkeley, and I always say it made me a better conservative.
I'm kind of studying creative direction to get into the content creating field and stuff, which is actually doing me.
Into the mic.
Oh, I'm studying creative direction to get into that field, and it's doing me pretty good.
I'm learning a lot.
All right, we have Bob Loblaw.
Bob Loblaw.
I can't pronounce that.
White pill means you have hope for the future, and black pill means you have no hope for the future.
Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
We have Odin with the 99.
Thank you, man.
Thank goodness nobody is hitting on Nick this time.
For the group, what job and degree is the biggest red, green flag for dating versus hookup?
Why that specific job?
Odin, hey, thank you, man.
Yeah, we'll go around the table on this really quick.
Let's start with you.
Go ahead.
I guess red, to me, it's more about the person someone is.
Because I think you can meet someone at any point on their journey.
And so it's about their efforts and where they are.
And I don't look at a partner based off of what they've achieved, but kind of how they're showing up, the efforts that they're putting in.
So I don't really think that there's a red or a green flag for me.
There's not like any job a guy could have that.
I mean, maybe if it was illegal and like, you know, dangerous to me, then I would definitely think that's a red flag.
But other than that, no.
What about like someone who I'm trying to think of something that could be a red flag for someone?
You have different goals.
Like if you're seeking out a husband that's going to provide for a family, you might want them to have a certain income to provide and protect, but not everybody has that goal.
And so yeah, not for me.
Do you make content online?
Me?
Yeah, do you like do OF or anything like that?
I've like for fun, I've done like TikTok videos, but not that kind of videos.
Yeah.
But no, you don't have OnlyFans.
No.
would you okay so the question is is what job and degree I think we'll just pick one of those So we'll do job is either biggest red or green flag.
And then he specifies for dating versus hookup, but I just want to try to minimize this.
So what job or do, no, hold on, what job is the biggest red flag?
I think the biggest red flag would be a job where somebody is not being conscious about how their actions or behavior in their company or in their real life is affecting other beings on the planet.
So if they're not being conscious of that and just being greedy, that's the biggest red flag for me.
What's the term for people that are, I'm blanking right now, it's on the tip of my tongue.
You're a lobbyist.
What about a lobbyist for the tobacco industry?
Is that a red flag for you?
Probably, yeah.
I mean, not like a red flag.
I guess I'm an open-minded person, but I'm definitely someone who would want my partner to also want to be involved in a career path that is supportive of helping humanity become healthier, become happier.
So for me personally, it wouldn't probably be my cup of tea, but everybody's entitled to their own preferences.
Okay, so no to the tobacco lobbyist.
Let's say he's making 300K a year, though.
don't care that doesn't you don't care You don't care about money?
No, no, but I can't.
I don't look at a partner through the lens of how much money they're making.
No.
Well, what about like, do you want to have kids one day?
I don't.
Oh, you don't want to have kids?
Yeah, I don't.
Okay.
Well, have you always felt that way?
I have always felt that way.
Okay.
Do you think that's going to change?
Or you're pretty, like, you've already got your tube side, basically.
No, but I'm not going to, I'm open-minded to my mind-changing, but it's always been something that's like very apparent to me that I feel like I have other things that I want to do with my life and that you can have a family in a way that's not necessarily that traditional.
So for me, I've always known that, but I'm always open-minded.
I'm not going to never say never, you know, but pretty sure.
Okay, got it.
And then do you know, do you have a sense of what you want to do career-wise?
Like, do you want to?
I studied psychology in school, but I didn't really see myself going on that traditional path of getting a master's and becoming a therapist, but definitely want to work in helping empower women to be confident in themselves and all people as well, helping people with their relationships, with their health, that kind of stuff.
Okay.
Do you think you'll be a high earner one day?
I do.
Okay.
But in terms of a partner, you wouldn't care about the money they make.
No.
Like, even though perhaps you intend to make six figures in a year, you would date a guy who works at McDonald's.
100%.
Really?
I would.
Come on.
I mean, to me, it's about when you die, you take your memories.
And so if that guy who works at McDonald's, like if I share like the best laughs and the best memories, that's all I'm taking with me.
And so, you know, if he's a good person and I respect him as a person, that's what I look for in a partner.
Okay.
What about you?
So biggest red flag in terms of like a job from a guy?
I agree with her with a lot of things she said as well.
As long as they're doing something that they love and that doesn't affect humanity in a negative way.
But for me, I would, if I had to pick, I would say like a red flag one would be something illegal or a corn star wouldn't do that.
A corn star wouldn't do that.
Agreed.
Would not.
Agriculture.
Absolutely not.
Okay.
Just want to check in here really quickly with the chat.
Is the viewership or sorry, excuse me, not the viewership.
Is the video quality okay?
Just want to check in.
This is our first time streaming at a higher, what's it called?
Like a higher quality.
So just want to make sure that the chat is, or the quality of the video is okay.
One in the chat if the video quality is okay.
There's not any dropped frame rates.
The audio sync is fine.
Yeah.
Okay, it sounds like it's good.
So wait, but okay, you'd have an issue with a guy who does porn.
Yeah, just because, I mean, I don't want my guy to be with like a bunch of women for his job.
That's just not.
You said you do OnlyFans, right?
Yeah.
Do you do solo content?
I don't do any like things with anybody else.
It's mainly just like solo stuff.
Like extra bikini picks.
You know what I mean?
It's nothing crazy.
Okay, got it.
But so you wouldn't get with a guy who does porn.
That'd be like a red flag for you.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay.
And then just really quick, money-wise, like, do you want a guy who makes about as much as you make?
Because you said you're married to the money, right?
Yeah.
And you said you own like two businesses, you make content.
Yeah.
A lot of girls on OnlyFans make quite a bit of money.
Yeah.
How much money do you make from OnlyFans?
I'm not going to say.
Maybe a range, five figures, six figures a month.
It's a good amount.
Five figures?
I'm not going to say that.
Mid-five figures.
It's pretty good.
It's good.
Give us a range.
It's above six figures.
Above six figures a month.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, wait, not a month, not a month, not a month.
Yeah, yeah, a month.
Oh, a month?
Okay, they're.
No, It's not $100,000 a month.
I'm not saying.
But you said in a year it's over six figures.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
That's all I'll say.
So do you need a guy that you're potentially going to date to make as much money as you?
No.
No?
You don't care about money?
No.
Okay.
I just want a guy that I have a connection with and that, you know, I love as a person.
Sure.
So you would date a guy who works, even though you're 22 and you're making more than six figures a month.
Totally fine dating a guy who works at McDonald's.
Okay, maybe not McDonald's.
As long as they can provide for themselves.
Sure.
I don't want to pay for them.
Okay, what about Wendy's?
Like a more reputable fast food restaurant.
I mean, I want the guy that I'm with to have goals.
Like, if he's working at McDonald's and he's pursuing something else.
Why do you want him to have goals?
What is the end benefit of having goals?
Because, I mean, what are we going to talk about?
Like, I'm going to be so.
Do you talk about goals?
I mean, yeah.
Like, talking about the future or talking about something you're passionate about.
I want a man to be passionate about something while they're talking to me.
You know what I mean?
If they're just like, yeah, I worked at McDonald's today.
It shows their pursuit to grow.
But is that what you do when you're with a guy?
You just talk about work?
I mean, not all day.
The last thing I want to do with a girl is talk about my work.
Okay, maybe not at work, because, okay, let's say he's working at McDonald's.
We're not talking about, oh, I was making the burgers.
It's about like, okay, his future goals that he's pursuing.
But once he pursues the goals, we're not going to talk about it every day.
Do you want to do like a power couple thing?
Yeah.
Maybe.
Power couple.
Power couple, yeah.
I would like a power couple.
Or maybe even if he's not in like the spotlight of something, I would still want a man that has goals if it's a business or if it's something.
Hold on just a sec.
Feeling dangerous.
Thank you, man.
2013 donated $199.
I am really shocked she wasn't lying.
I mean the gender studies major who isn't a ranting communist.
Never thought I'd see the date she ain't bad looking either.
Oh.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Imagine our surprise.
A moderate person studying gender studies.
Yeah, I'm a paradox.
It's.
I do.
We'll touch on it a little bit later, but I would like to get into maybe you can reveal the disastrous stuff that they're espousing in the class.
Okay, so we were talking about basically what you're looking for in a partner.
But so you're 22, so I mean, I think most of the guys in your age range aren't going to be making six figures a month.
Or excuse me, six figures a year.
Yeah, well, I personally won't date below like 21.
She won't date below 21.
I feel like it's weird if they're like not 21.
To me, it's weird because I'm like, they can't even drink.
Sure.
And it's like, we're going to go, take me out to dinner.
I'm like, can I get a glass of wine?
He's like, not going to be able to give a glass of wine.
That's weird to me.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty normal typically you hear from women.
They want to date a guy who's at least their age or a bit older.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Biggest red flag in.
I guess anything that like takes away from them or that they don't feel happy about.
Like if you're like doing something that like makes you feel like shit and you just continuously do it because why for just the check?
Like if you're.
So like running a dating podcast.
I'm kidding, chat.
I'm kidding.
Or like anything that would like make you feel like just icky.
Like, um, I don't know.
Like, I'm trying to think.
Something that you don't feel happy about.
Like, if they're unhappy and whatever they're doing, like, I feel like if someone's working at McDonald's, like, they're not, like, waking up every day, like, I'm gonna go conquer McDonald's.
Unless you are, like, thank you for my extra happy meal toy.
But you gotta be, like, really passionate about what you do.
Um, red flag-wise, I guess anything that's like straight into the microphone.
Red flag-wise, like, I don't know, anything that would like be dirty or unhygienic, you know, something that would like make them like unhygienic.
Maybe if it's like if they're not good money, they gotta just stay clean.
You gotta have good hygiene, you know?
I wasn't particularly thinking of plumber.
I was thinking about like something that would make you smell.
I don't know.
Something that makes you smell?
Like an instruction worker or something?
No, I mean, there's showers.
Like, even like, maybe even like a butcher, like fingers.
I mean, I've heard people who work with like fish can kind of.
Yeah, but they make so much money.
Yeah.
And I'm not judging any profession.
I just like to do that.
But question.
So do you, at the end of the day, though, your answer is a little similar to theirs.
You don't care about how much money the guy makes.
And keep in mind, I know some of you guys are younger.
So at this point in time, maybe you don't really care about a guy's income.
But let's say like when you're 25, 30.
Do you want kids, by the way?
You want kids?
Yeah.
Okay.
So say down the road when you're 25, you've started your career.
Do you care or not care about a guy's money?
Yeah, I mean, he's got to be making me or more, you know.
At least as much as you are.
I plan to make a lot of money.
So yeah, I station.
I don't want to like, I mean, I believe I can take care of someone.
I feel like it is important for like a woman to take care of a man.
Yeah.
And like a lot of ways.
But I think that if he's kind of, and then like, I don't know, like, whether I'm dating like any, even a man if I'm dating a woman, like you can't have that inferiority complex.
And there are people out there who don't get that and who are just like super supportive and who are like super like peace-minded.
Sure.
But like, you know, there are people out there that are like, oh, okay, I'm making under my partner and I'm sitting on the couch.
And you said that you plan to be a high earner, correct?
Yeah.
Do you plan?
Do you anticipate making more than $100K a year?
Of course.
Of course.
Okay, you're very confident.
Okay.
But currently, do you not really care about a guy's money at this point in time?
I'm really focused on school.
Yeah.
So it's like, I'm not even looking for someone.
I mean, like, the people that I'd be going out with, like, they take care of me.
And maybe I'm just like, maybe I just attract that because I like to be taken care of and I like to take care of people.
Sure.
But yeah, definitely like.
It is attractive for someone to have bread, of course.
Sure.
But if I love you, I love you.
Do you know what you're going to be doing for work?
Hopefully going into creative directing or like something lovely like performing or okay.
When do you think you'll start making 100K plus by?
I'm going to cap it like before 25.
Before 25?
Yeah.
So within three years you're going to be making over 100K?
Even if it's 60K over $2 over, yeah, I'll put that as my goal.
Sure.
$2 over $100K.
$100K.
Yeah.
Even if it's just, you know?
I mean, that's pretty ambitious to be making $100K by the time you're 25.
But go ahead and what about you?
Thank you.
Biggest red flag and like job career-wise.
Besides anything illegal, like if you're a criminal.
Yeah, like if you're a drug dealer, Ponzi scheme, like anything like that, yeah, no.
Or pharmaceuticals, anything in there.
Sure.
And then, kind of related to this, currently and then perhaps in the future, do you want kids?
Yes.
Well, you're in a relationship now, so do you care about man's earning potential or his money?
Yes and no.
I don't know.
I think it's kind of a hard question.
Like, I think in general, yes, like it's good to have those wants, but you also can't control who you love.
So, you know, a big red flag for me personally is if you work in like a dispensary or like that.
I don't smoke, and so that has zero interest to me.
And, you know, kind of like what you said when you come home and you tell me about your job, I'm not going to care.
I don't know what's going on.
Okay, so you don't want to pothead, basically.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not.
I mean, a little bit here and there, you know, whatever.
Everyone does it.
But like I said, I don't do it.
So I don't smoke either.
Yeah.
I'm good.
I'm just thinking.
What about you?
Biggest red flag?
Yeah, career-wise.
And a girl, I would say, OnlyFans are like a corn star.
It's not my cup of tea.
Sure.
And what was the other question?
That's fairly true.
What about you?
No offense, but probably my biggest red flag would be like an HR job or if a guy worked at Planned Parenthood.
I feel like that would be a no-go for me.
Are guys allowed to work at Planned Parenthood?
I knew some people who are new guys.
No, I think so.
I've never seen a man in Planned Parenthood.
Not a good idea.
So deal breaker if they work at an HR or they're an abortion doctor.
Okay, got it.
Oh my God.
Understood.
Okay.
And without revealing too much, what line of work is your husband in?
So we met on a presidential political campaign, and so he works in politics.
For Kanye?
No.
Not for me.
We worked on the Trump campaign together.
Okay, got it.
So we met on the 2020 Trump campaign, and he is in politics like me, still.
He works, he does fundraising for an organization, and yeah.
Okay.
Fundraising, got it.
My biggest red flag career-wise would probably be.
Can we get Maddie some seat boosters?
Eric, can you get her to the seat booster?
Be like a gamer.
You're just kind of just sitting on a chair all day doing nothing.
I feel like that really affects your health mentally and physically.
Let's do both.
Let's get both over here.
My posture is just all so terrible right now, but.
There you go.
Double seat boosters for Maddie.
Here.
I'll let you figure that out.
Okay.
What was your answer?
Oh, you're talking to me.
Oh.
200 character limit on Streamlabs?
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Mike Davis, I'm going to boost it just for you, buddy.
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Hold your horses.
Okay, we're going to do that right now.
And does money matter, Maddie, to you?
It matters enough to a point where you're able to take care of me and our children later in life because I want to be a stay-at-home mom and take care of my kids.
So if you're making enough money to take care of the family, you want to be a stay-at-home husband.
I mean, what?
Trophy wife.
You want to be a trophy wife?
That's what I call it.
Okay.
And Frankie's cool with that?
Frankie's cool with that.
He's super down for it.
Okay, I'm making the oh So Mike Davis, the limit is 255 characters on Streamlabs.
They don't let you make it higher, so I'm going to bump it to 255.
That should be saved now, FYI.
He wants to write extra long messages.
Thank you, though, for the super chat, man.
Much appreciated.
OK, so we'll get to that here in just a sec.
OK, so, oh, I should answer this.
Okay, so, guys, here's some fucking game for you.
Hold on, let me just pull up the question so I have it.
Biggest red flag, career-wise, and degree.
So, HR, if she works in HR, that's a red flag.
If she's a flight attendant, also red flag.
If she's a travel nurse, also red flag.
Honestly, if she's a nurse, she's probably also red flag.
I'm just gonna reduce the dating pool to like zero.
Let's see.
OnlyFans, probably a red flag.
Stripper, red flag.
I mean, these are obvious, though.
Pornstar, red.
Oh, yeah, I was gonna say that, too.
Those are the given, though, if it's like OF.
I mean, yeah, no offense over there.
There's a stigma around it, because you don't got to do nude stuff all the time.
If you're the daughter of a 80s hair metal band, that's also a red flag.
Yeah, if you're the daughter of an 80s hair band guitarist.
Shots fired.
Specifically.
Shots fired.
Let's see what else.
Oh, and then as far as degrees go, anything like in the gender studies, shots fired.
Communications.
Calm's pretty bad.
Sociology, I think anthropology is kind of like soch, but soch is pretty bad.
And then I want to say dance.
Dance made.
Dance?
So what are green flags?
Huh?
What are green flags?
A green flag.
For women.
Degree?
Okay, so green flag degrees would be STEM.
So I think, like, a girl who's in STEM, that's green flag.
And then work-wise, I mean.
Unemployed.
Unemployed's probably pretty good, though.
I'm trying to think of what a green flag would be for a job, for a girl.
Anything STEM-related, I think.
That's a green flag.
Teacher?
Red flag.
Teacher's red flag.
Major red flag.
Why?
She's dealing with obnoxious children.
I mean, it depends if she's like, yeah, she's just like, that's such a stressful job and they make dog shit money.
And it's just like, teachers are miserable, I feel like.
So you care how much money your woman makes?
No, I don't really care.
Doesn't matter.
That's lovely.
I'll date.
I mean, yeah, I'll.
So what if she worked at McDonald's?
Yeah.
I dated a girl who worked at Chick-fil-A.
I dated her for like two years.
Did you have any goals or aspirations outside of that, though?
Nah, she, huh?
But was she like doing other stuff outside of that?
Yeah, she's pursuing a STEM degree.
What if she's going to pursue Chick-fil-A?
Like, work?
Nah.
Like, just work there.
Oh, I wouldn't care.
I just don't, me personally, given my income, I don't really care about a girl's money because I could support.
She could be stay-at-home, at least for me.
But the reality is, though, for most men, and I want to speak more in general terms because most men probably can't afford to hold down the household on just one income.
Just the economic reality is that basically because of feminism, you now need two incomes to support a family.
Some people can do it, but so.
Depends where you live.
Yeah, definitely depends where you live.
Like the cost of living in California, you probably, I mean, there's different parts of California where the cost of living living is lower, but yeah, if you want to be in a city, major city, probably need, if you're making like the average or median salary or whatever it is.
So yeah, did I thoroughly disqualify like 90% of women there?
Probably.
Okay.
No nurses.
That's like probably most.
So the only green flag is STEM degree.
That's it.
There's no.
No, I'm sure there's more, but like STEM, like a girl who's studying STEM, to me, I think that's a green flag.
I feel like too that when we like have these discussions about flags, it's sometimes not really applicable to like actual connections and how they kind of just happen or even people having children, sometimes it kind of just happens and people end up in these situations where it might not be ideal or it might have not checked off every box on their list, but that's the situation they're in.
Sure.
So I feel like sometimes when we talk about these flags and we're all like trying to make these lists, that's not always how it actually unfolds, you know?
Yeah, well, I really don't care a whole bunch about like a woman's career.
Like it doesn't, and well this kind of leads into my next question.
So just a question forever.
Actually, hold on, let me do one chat here and then we'll get into my next question.
Actually, no, I think we're tapped out on chats here.
Let me just double check.
One thing.
Yeah, we're good.
Okay.
So who should pay on the first date?
Men, the guy, the girl, you split.
Well, no, let me frame it like this.
Who do you think?
Yeah, just who do you think should pay on the first date?
Whoever initiates the date and asks you out, I think, should offer to pay.
Sure.
And if you can't pay and you want to meet someone, you should just be upfront about your situation if you want to meet someone for a second.
Tell someone up front.
Okay.
Sure.
Tell them.
Okay.
And okay, so whoever asks should pay.
Yeah.
What about you?
I think the man should pay.
Man should pay.
Okay.
What about you?
Just how it ends up.
I feel like it shouldn't really be a convers.
I feel like it shouldn't always be a conversation.
You know, just the flow of the date kind of determines who pay for yourself.
I mean, of course, like, you want to be taken care of.
Who doesn't want to be taken care of?
Especially with gender roles.
And like the man pays for the first date.
But like, you know, if you're chilling, you're having a good time and the bill comes and you just kind of like casually put your money down.
It's like, fuck it.
You mean the guy?
Yeah, the guy or the girl.
I've never like.
That's like a non-answer, but okay.
I guess like, let go with the flow.
If it's a good time, it's a good time.
Probably the guy's mostly going to, most likely going to pay.
But like, what if it's not even like a guy-guy, guy-girl relationship?
What if it's like a girl and a girl?
Like, who pays then?
That is the Rubik's Cube of the dating world.
Or masculine one?
I don't know.
Like, what is gender rules?
Please tell us.
Well, okay.
Sorry.
Who should pay on the first date?
Ideally, I think that it should be men, but I also am very open to the idea of paying for myself, especially on the first date.
Just because women are, like, it's kind of this common trend now to like go on Tinder and then just find some dude to take you out to dinner.
So I can totally understand like a guy not wanting to pay on the first date.
And I would be totally open to splitting it on the first date going forward if I exit my relationship.
I don't think I would have in the past, but my eyes have opened a little bit, and I can understand how that would be a predicament to be in as a man.
Okay, so would it be, I mean, I know you're in a relationship right now, but if you weren't in a relationship, and let's say you went on a date with a guy, and he asked to split the bill, or he asked for separate checks, would that be like a...
I don't know if it would necessarily be a red flag to me.
I think it would kind of depend on the date, like, altogether.
that wouldn't be like the like the end line for me um if I had a great date with a guy like all up until and then like they want to split like I I think it's really insincere to go into a date and expect a man to pay for you like you should you should be willing to pay for yourself Like, I think it's very nice and it's a wonderful gesture to pay for the first date, but I don't think that you should go in expecting that.
Yeah, and just to bring it back to you guys, so you kind of chuckled there.
So you go on a date with a guy and waiter comes and he's like, hey, we're, he says, hey, let's get separate checks.
It's kind of like a, is it a deal breaker or is it kind of like some negative brownie points?
Like, what is it?
I mean, everything's, of course, circumstantial and like how he's feeling, how I felt.
Like, if he's saying, let's get separate checks in, like, a way that means, like, this is the last date we're going on.
It's like, okay.
He's not, it's just.
Give it in the most charitable, view it in the most charitable way as possible.
So he's not being weird.
He's just like, ask a waiter, hey, two checks.
But it's not, in a way, it's like, oh, this is the final.
It's interesting that that's the assumption there, but go ahead.
What do you mean by the assumption?
Well, you're suggesting that the guy wanting the split is him not being interested in the second date.
Well, that wasn't my reaction, but I mean, like, I feel like that is the assumption genuinely.
And then, like, if he does that, do men do that?
Like, as like a sign that, like, it's not the next day?
I mean, me personally, if he's like, let's split, let's split it.
Like, it goes over my head, you know?
But, like, if you're like on a date with a girl and you're chilling, but you don't want to go to date again, and you're, would you use splitting the check as like a reason to like to like let her know, like, you're shy?
I don't know.
Like, there's hints.
There's subtle hints, you know?
Like, I'm like, can you Uber home after two?
Like, I've never been through that, but like, geez.
If you're best friends with someone, for example, and then you guys end up falling in love and you, before you guys were dating or in love, you kind of knew their personality.
Can somebody stop shaking their legs, please?
Is somebody shaking their legs?
Please stop.
Go ahead.
But yeah, if two people were best friends and they kind of knew each other's financial situations and maybe, like the man in that situation wasn't like thriving necessarily and they fall in love, and then you know, I feel like, like you said, it is kind of circumstantial and that it shouldn't be this kind of like one size fits all standard for sure.
I feel like if a guy asked me on a date, like I'm kind of expecting them to pay just because they're inviting me, they're asking me, kind of like, even if you ask your friend to go somewhere sometimes like oh, like it's on me with a friend, but in a date situation, I'm definitely expecting them to pay.
And if they say oh, like separate checks, I'm gonna find that weird.
It's like, why do we even go on this date?
Like I don't know?
I just define that.
Yeah, let me try to get around on this.
So Shania, did you answer the question?
No, but I 100% agree that it's whoever asks the other person, whoever asks okay yeah, I agree with that too.
It's like kind of like a birthday party thing.
You know, you invite people to your birthday party and then ask them to pay doesn't make any sense, I mean, I don't want to be rude, but if, if the guy didn't pay for our date, there wouldn't be another one, there wouldn't be another one.
I'm traditionally agreed agreed, okay.
I think a man should pay for the date well obviously, like whoever initiates it, but men are more likely to initiate dates anyway.
So right, okay.
So who?
Who here?
Some people said man, some people.
I think you said whoever asks should pay, just show of hands.
Yeah, show of hands.
Whoever asks should pay.
And then man should pay.
I'll pay.
All right.
Man should pay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wait, so we're just sorry.
Whoever asks should pay?
Andreas?
Okay.
Okay.
Have you ever asked out a guy?
No.
Shania?
I have.
Okay.
Did you pay for the date?
We didn't go on the date.
Okay, you got rejected.
What?
Okay.
Well, so my first thing is that my first thinking is on this, is that whoever I should pay is de facto men should pay.
Because women aren't out here really asking men out on dates.
So anybody who says, whoever I should pay, your answer may as well be men should pay.
because women are not out there in droves to the same degree that men are asking women out on dates.
Some women do ask men out on dates, but it's like probably 1% of all the, yeah.
We got this happening right now, too, with Streamlined.
And it didn't play, you better fix that shit.
Hold on, let me see.
I've been trying to fight.
You might have used a banned word.
It didn't trigger.
Hold on, let me check.
Let me just see.
Oh, shit.
It's not playing.
That's scuffed.
Sorry, man.
I don't know why.
Better food start shooting.
There's always something weird going on with.
Hashtag save Mike Davis.
Hold on, let me see what's going on here.
One sec, Mike Davis.
Wait.
$199.
One sec, one sec, one sec.
That's so weird.
I don't know why that's happening.
I love that you're still holding the baby.
I know.
Yeah, she's still holding the baby.
I think she really has to hold him for the whole time.
That baby looks like E.T. Where's your baby right now?
She's with her mom.
Oh.
And dad.
It's grandparents.
It's so freaking funny.
Let me see if I can trigger it.
One sec, Mike Davis.
Bro, I drank way too much of this energy drink.
Fuck.
Bro.
What happened?
I drank way too much of that energy drink.
I'm like super wired.
Gonna fucking explode.
Okay.
I need to do some jumping.
I think Brady gonna have to choke a bitch.
What the fuck?
Hello?
Brian.
Okay, so whoever I should pay, right?
So I'll wait till she's back from the bathroom.
Let me see if I can trigger this one more time.
I feel like I don't know.
Hey, I gotta read it.
Sorry, Mike Davis.
I guess I'll know why it's scuffed.
Mike Davis, seven minutes ago, I've been trying to fight the good fight, but you simps never learn.
We got a panel who deserve nothing better than a port-a-potty cleaner.
Yet, just like the sun will rise tomorrow, you simps will be in their DMs.
I'm choosing violence and y'all on notice.
Okay.
Small dick energy.
Oh, SD Small Dick Energy.
Did you hear that, Mike?
That's interesting.
Okay, let's talk about small dick energy really quick.
Okay.
Who here has ever used the term small dick energy?
Besides you?
Well, you know.
I have and I regret it.
You have and you regret it.
Okay.
What about you, small dick energy?
I'm not a fan of the phrase personally.
What about you, small dick energy user?
I think it's a metaphor.
Not literally, I guess.
It's a metaphor, but it means something still.
Yeah, I think the problem with it is that if you're, as a woman, going to ask for men not to objectify your body, it's hard to go and then objectify their body and belittle it.
So that's just kind of what?
No, you talk.
I'm sorry.
Oh, sorry.
But that's just kind of my issue with it.
And my friend actually brought it up to me because we were sitting together and I just threw out the phrase I was talking about some guy and then he was just like, don't you find that like a little offensive?
And I was like, oh, you're right.
That is kind of like he went.
It was just funny.
He went into this whole thing about hoe.
I pissed about it.
What about big dick energy?
That's the more common one you hear.
It's not real.
You don't have to actually have a big dick to have big dick energy, though.
You know what I mean?
Right.
It's just the energy.
But it presupposes that if you're attaching a body part, which tends to be something that a lot of men are insecure about, to confidence, essentially.
So for, okay, for example, who here is for body positivity?
Show of hands.
Ish, kind of.
So, I don't know.
I'd like to propose some new terms to the table.
What do you think of loose pussy energy?
Loose pussy energy.
Yeah.
It's giving 3-0-5.
I think, too, like, at the end of the day, if you have to insult either side, if you have to insult someone in order to get a point across, your point probably isn't that strong.
Sure, I agree.
So I don't, yeah, so I'm not a fan of those kind of terms personally, but I think that it is thrown around, especially in our online culture where people aren't looking each other in the eye and like, you know, they feel kind of empowered when they insult people.
Okay, got it.
Cavernous Vag energy.
Who's for it?
What does that even mean?
Cavernous.
Not really.
Cavernous.
Doesn't flow off the cavernous.
Oh, it's like a Simmons synonym.
Cavernous Vag energy.
Would the big dick energy parallel?
Would that be tight pussy energy?
Yeah.
It'd be like a bunch of energy.
Yeah, tight pussy energy, I guess.
My issue with that term is, and it's so casually thrown around, you could, in most circles, you can probably throw around big dick energy.
Like, it's perfectly acceptable.
But if you were to, like, say tight pussy energy, that's probably going to like look at you.
Yeah, they're going to be like, that's.
Yeah, no, you're right.
I had never thought about like big dick energy also kind of, I had thought about it for small dick energy, but I had never thought about it for big dick energy.
It's kind of.
Yeah.
I think it's small dick energy is worse because they're both bad.
Placing importance on somebody's body parts.
It's interesting.
But in society, they do that anyway.
Like men are still going to do that to women.
Do what?
Talk about our bodies.
Sure, probably.
I feel like women talk about men's bodies all the time.
Like I hear all the time.
I always hear people talk about man's height is like a huge thing.
Like, oh, I would never date someone below six feet.
And like, that's the equivalent, I feel like, of a man saying, like, talking about like a woman's weight or something.
I think you owe an apology to Mike Davis for saying that.
He wanted to be rude to us.
Yeah, if you want to.
And I wasn't trying to say the phrase as in that way.
You guys made me think of it differently, but I was just saying the phrase as a metaphor, not thinking about actually like the size of your thing.
You probably have a great, huge thing.
What exactly does like small energy talk?
Energy is about the answer to this one.
It has to like originate from the fact that if you're extremely like tiny or like you have a really insecure about your size, when you sleep with people, you're going to act a certain way.
Like when you don't, when you have your one-night stand.
Like insecure.
You're going to act a certain way so that they don't talk about it.
Like if you're insecure about your size, what are you going to do?
Like, are you going to treat the bitches that you can have one-night stands with like shit?
Because you're nervous that they're going to go talk.
Like, I don't know.
I feel like it has to come from how those people feel, if anything.
And then big dick energy is like just confidence flowing.
Which is small.
Showing energy is more of a joke, though.
But this is like, but small dick energy is more of like a joke, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
No one's going to be like, oh, yeah.
Well, yeah, but it's a joke.
It's a joke.
If the reverse would not be viewed as a joke, for example, if you were to like say, I'm trying to think one of the more positive ones, like not like skinny girl energy or some shit.
They kind of say that, they say like skinny clean or whatever, or like things like that, or I hear the opposite.
But uh uh anyways, let's move on from that.
Okay, let's bring it back to the money thing.
So um, I forgot where we left off on the on that.
So uh, I had a question about the money thing.
Like yeah um, I was gonna say, like when we're talking about, for example how, like you were saying, how you know, usually it's like men paying.
Um, don't do you think that sometimes, maybe it's also a good idea to encourage women to be independent, in the sense that you don't, they don't want to jump to depend on a man for finances, because they can wind up in a situation where, if you are dependent on a guy and it's not a healthy situation and you're relying on them in that sense, then it's harder for them to leave.
Maybe they haven't sought out a path to support themselves and maybe being independent can be a way out of a dangerous situation for a lot of men.
Well, I understand your question, but what the question is related specifically to like dates, first dates, I don't think it's that first deep until, unless you're in like, really deep into this relationship with this.
I don't think it goes further right, long term first date, I wouldn't think of that.
Yeah, but then into the relationship, does that expectation carry on?
Does the woman continue to expect the man to pay?
Because, do you not?
Because you said, whoever I should pay right, and I think that well, you're okay, you're six months into a relationship right, did your current boyfriend, did he pay for the first date?
He did.
Did he pay for the second and third?
Um, we kind of help you split, help each other out or switch off.
Like you know, I love to pay and like um, we both work hard, we work together, and so um, I love to pay for him sometimes and he loves to pay for me too, and like, we take care of each other and he's definitely, you know, taking me to very nice places and paid as well.
Just closer to the mic, please.
Um okay um, so I I want to try to keep this minimized.
Just, I mean that that is something that happens, but it's, it's typically something that might play out uh, later on in uh, a relationship.
So uh, so you said whoever I should pay.
You said the man should pay.
You said the man should pay, correct?
Yeah.
You said gender roles.
I said that I can.
It wouldn't be like the end of it for me.
Basically I could Shanaya, you're, whoever.
Whoever pays?
You said the man, the man, the man.
Okay, I said the man, but I also don't mind paying, right?
You also don't have to break the bank on the first date too.
Yeah, first date period yeah, exactly.
Oh yeah, I mean for fun things without having to go to dinner.
First dates, you should very low commitment, I reckon, but that's not.
A lot of guys are not tuned into that and sometimes they'll go a little overboard.
So um, why it's interesting?
So you said whoever asks?
You said the man should pay.
You said the man should pay.
But all three of you said you don't really care about the guy's money earlier on in the conversation.
So how do you reconcile saying you don't care about the guy's money but expecting the guy to pay for the first date?
Okay well, the first date is kind of different than throughout an entire relationship, like you're asking me like long term do I care about?
Like him paying for everything or like making a certain amount of money.
That's different than like okay, first date, like first date if he's asking me on a date, which is, like you said, most women are not asking men on a date.
So i'm assuming the man and I don't ask guys on dates.
So if he's asking me, i'm assuming he's gonna pay because he's inviting me to dinner.
So that's kind of what you're saying is like they're different, like she wouldn't be going out there to that restaurant on her own and paying for that.
So if someone's saying hey, like i'm inviting you to come, then you know you.
And if they say like I actually like, don't have the means right now, like I feel like that's the individual situation where you can decide.
You know yeah, and if he doesn't have the means to pay on the first date, then he probably shouldn't be in a relationship.
I think He shouldn't be on a relationship if he, if he doesn't.
He should be focusing on himself.
So shouldn't we say the same thing about women who expect men to pay for first dates?
Yes, of course.
I don't think women shouldn't use men to go on dinner.
You literally just said that men should pay for the first date.
Yes, the first date if they're asking the woman to go on the date, yes.
Okay.
Which is how it always happens, right?
Like women don't know what they do.
Typically, exactly.
Women don't ask for dates, but exactly.
They do sometimes.
Yeah, sure.
Sure, they do.
Rare.
Rare.
I don't think it's rare.
It's super rare.
It's heteronormative.
I think it's more rare, yeah.
In hetero, well, hetero.
Heteronormative, like in heterogeneous.
Well, non-heteronor normative relationships are rare too.
I shouldn't say rare.
They're not the norm.
No, that's not the right wording.
They're not, I don't know, what's the percentage breakdown of straight?
It's what, 90%, 95%?
No, in Gen Z, 21% of Gen Z is identifies as LGBTQ.
Yeah, I think it used to be 10%, like when we were, when I was growing up, at least.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay, well, who hears by?
I mean, I guess.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't really care about putting a word over what I like or what I like to fuck or who I like to sleep with and make love to or whatever.
I kind of agree with that.
It's like the least interesting thing about it.
I feel like that's something that should like.
Yeah, like I mean, I've only dated men, but I would say that like if for some reason I happened to fall in love with a woman, like it wouldn't be like I wouldn't XNAI that because I'm straight.
Okay, but so you're saying in lesbian relationships, obviously a woman obviously has to ask a woman out.
Or sometimes like we have examples of women that like are interested.
And like I've seen examples, I mean, maybe it's more rare, but you know, every situation is so unique, so unique, you know?
Even if it's like the same sex or different sex, it's totally unique situations of how people end up having dinner together.
Yeah, but the exception doesn't make the rule.
Generally speaking, I'd say overwhelmingly speaking, probably more than 95% of the time, the guy is asking the girl out.
So, I mean, we could talk about the 5% where the women do ask a guy out, where they're, in addition to, you know, a much greater likelihood of it being successful if a girl does ask a guy out.
So, I mean, I mean, we can get into that.
But it's just interesting to me, though.
All of you said that you three said you don't care about a guy's money, yet you said whoever I should pay, aka the man should pay.
You said the man should pay.
You said the man should pay on the first date.
So how do you reconcile?
And maybe you can weigh on this.
I haven't heard from you.
You don't care about the guy's money, so why should the guy pay on the first date?
You said gender roles, right?
I just feel like you want to take care of someone.
You want to show them that you're like responsible, that you're like, you don't care enough to make her pay.
God, I guess you just.
Why can't you do that for the guy?
You can, but like...
But you don't want to.
Well.
You just said the man should pay.
I guess it's sort of like a, it is a gender role thing.
And I think you want to be taken care of.
You want to feel respected.
It's like, if it's a stigma, if the stigma around it is respect, then yeah, the man should pay because it's a respect thing.
It's a, oh, you fuck with me thing.
Oh, it's a I like you thing.
But like, if it's a stigma around it is like, I don't know.
What do you guys think?
You can open that or leave it open.
Pardon?
Huh?
Okay.
What do I think about what?
Like the stigma around is paying equal to I respect you, that's the type of guy I am.
How does that reflect?
I guess because of like we're talking about it right now, it's obviously a thing that people think about.
It's reflectory of like whether or not what the guy likes you, whether or not he's respectful to you, whether or not he has PDE, whether or not he has, what is it, small?
What is it?
What's the acronym?
SPE, like, is it S-P-E to not pay for the bitch?
Like, SP.
Yeah.
I feel like when, like, I also feel bad if I'm trying to pay because I feel like it's like their masculinity and they like want to pay and they feel like, oh, like, I'm supposed to pay type thing.
And I feel like, because like when I was with my boyfriend, you know, like, if I paid for things, he would be like, like, I would, obviously, we'd pay for things.
Like, I paid for a lot of things for him, but because I did make more money than him at the time.
But literally, like, he would be like kind of insecure if I was paying for things.
you know what i mean and i feel like that's kind of because i feel like they have to though which is kind of sad I think too, you shouldn't, like, for me personally, at least, I'll always offer because I don't go into a relationship with that expectation of somebody to take care of me.
And like, maybe that expectation is like exists in society, but I don't think everybody like goes into it with that intention.
I also feel like it's not that deep.
Like, just hold on.
And enjoy the rest of your night.
So I have a question for the men.
Yeah.
So if you guys got asked on a date by a woman, are you paying?
Or are you?
Yeah, I don't care.
So are you like, okay, like, hey, let's go on a date.
Are you paying?
I really don't care.
So what if she tried to pay?
Would you let her pay?
Sure.
She's like adamant about it.
Like, I think there's like the like, no, let me pay.
And you're not going to be a jerk about it.
Closer to the mic, please.
That's cute, you know.
What about you?
If a girl asks me out, yeah, she can pay for that shit.
Ha!
Would you say yes?
Yeah.
I like it if a girl sins for me.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Fuck yeah.
It's so fucking rare, it's refreshing.
It is fun, huh?
No, yeah.
If a girl's a bad person, is this a free game for us?
Should we be asking men on dates?
Well, I think you would have a very high success rate.
I mean, really?
There's a couple different train of thoughts on this.
I think some guys are like into this, like they want to be in their masculine frame.
Yeah.
And I think there's validity to that.
And some guys are just traditional and they're going to be like, nope, I want to pay.
Me personally, I don't think it's a turnoff if the guy pays.
I think that's more fucking gangster.
That's way more gangster than pay.
Then she's so into you that she's asking you out.
She's paying on the date.
You can still lead and be in your masculine and she's simping for you.
That's some gangster shit.
Do you like respect her less?
No, I respect her more.
Yeah.
Really?
I don't respect her less.
Because what if he's going to be like, oh, she wants me so bad?
Like, she's like taking me out.
Dude, I like rare.
I really.
It's a nice thing to do.
Dude, I like it when a girl's like kind of, I don't like it when a girl's like.
How do I explain this?
If a girl, if a girl's like, for example, if she were to approach me and it was like in a really masculine, like, hey, want to fuck, like, if it's super direct, but if she approached me and she was kind of like coy and a little shy about it, that would be super fucking hot.
So same with like if a girl DM's me first, if she went about it in like a tactful way, major turn on.
And if she fucking paid for the date, I don't know.
Maybe I'm going to get dragged in the chat, but like, I mean, I think that's an awesome thing.
She's super down for it.
It's also encouraging.
If it encourages women to like sit in their power or stand in their power and like not be afraid to maybe do something that might be perceived as a little bit more masculine, I think that's where that bridge of understanding is.
Yeah, and I still like to lead.
You know, I still like to lead in relationships, but if a girl is like, I don't know, I kind of like it when a girl's like, see, I don't like this chasing idea or like girls who play hard to get.
But girls like that.
Like what?
I feel like girls like to be chased.
Probably.
When I really wanted, like, I would never ask a guy out first.
Sure.
Even if I like someone.
But so I think the thing is though is that you like it because you're in a position of power.
Because if the guy's trying to get you, you're in like a better negotiating position in the same way that like, for example, if I reach out to a company to do a brand deal, they're in a stronger negotiating position because I went to them.
But if they come to me, it's just like a framework where I have more negotiating power if they're coming to me.
And that's how basically women's position is.
Women have a bunch of dudes coming to them, so they have much more options.
They're much more capable of being in the stronger negotiating position.
So I would say women risk more when they're dating.
I agree, I think it's a bigger risk as a woman dating yeah, especially like I mean age, like if you're trying to have kids or anything like men don't really have to worry about that.
Like you can be 40 and go around and find some 20 year old to.
But I, I look and I I I, because of i've had plenty of experience having to be the initiator, because for most men you have to be the initiator initiator, otherwise you're gonna be bro, you're gonna divergent bro.
If for most men, if you don't initiate like you're done.
Yeah, because girls like a masculine guy that will come and like show that they want them and like kind of work for them, like girls want that, like I feel like the whole feminism and everything they try to like they try to break that down and they're trying to say that's not true but it is.
It's like human nature for women.
I think you think girls coming to you and like being like more assertive to you is hot.
We think guys coming to us and doing the same, but that's the default, though that's the default, so i'm i'm perfect, perfectly capable of being the initiator.
I've done it for the vast majority of my uh relationships, although I have found that a lot of my relationships the girls met me more, a little bit more in the middle, like they showed a little bit more effort and interest.
Where there's like I don't want, a lot of girls will play like not play hard to get.
But my philosophy on being hard to get, if you're hard to get, you quickly become hard to want.
So I don't want a girl who's like I don't know, I like it when girls are like i'm, i'm a really no bullshit guy, so i'm just, i'm the type guy i'm like, hey, I like you, do you like me?
Cool, we're good.
I don't want a girl that's like where i'm on the I don't know where I stand with her, I kind of disagree.
I feel like I I want the guy to come to me, but I also want the guy to be kind of hard to get, like I think my husband did that and it worked, because he was like still hard to get.
Yeah, it's like a weird dance, like I feel like you need a little bit of both, like it can't be too hard to get, but you can't also be, just come and get me, i'm.
I'm open range, open season over, there's gonna be for anybody.
Yeah, like that's not a challenge if you're too forward early on.
Yeah, it's like, like you said, it's this dance, that you have to meet it.
If you're too forward early on, it's also kind of a turn off like yeah, I think you're like right on the money when you're saying kind of like you're acknowledging women being in this position of power where like, the guys are asking them out and so they're kind of the weak one where they might, they have the chance of getting rejected, and I think that's kind of where a lot of this resistance and the kind of issues come up in these topics about relationships, because we might think that because women are in that position of power,
we need to disempower them by teaching men like tactics that make them feel like they're in the position of power, when in reality, I think it's about seeing each other as like sentient beings, like deserving of compassion, deserving of love, deserving of healthy relationships, not about winning.
Yeah sure um, i'll just say, at least for me and look I, for the vast majority of my experiences with with women, I would say, generally speaking, i've been the one who's a bit more taking the initiative.
Uh however, I'm not gonna lie and sit here and say, if a girl slides into my DMs, for example, that that's a turnoff.
Absolutely not.
And look, I can lead it from there, but if a girl shows a little bit of initiative, and I don't want a girl in my DM like, let me fuck you.
No, I don't want that, but just like show you're interested, clearly, but it doesn't have to be this like really abrasive thing.
Yeah.
So, yeah, but I also don't like it if a girl like slides into my DMs and is like kind of coy with it and is like, hey, how's your day going?
I'm like, bro, just be, I like when girls are up front.
Just up front, hey, whatever.
Thought you were cute, whatever.
And yeah, so.
But to bring it back to paying, I also, I don't like to pay for the first date.
Actually, hold on, let's do some chats here and I'll finish up on the first date thing.
Okay, so we have, I'm sorry, I'm going to actually step up and fix the stream labs because it's not triggering.
Mike Davis, I apologize.
I'm going to try to get that figured out, but we have...
He can be a little rough, huh?
Okay.
Oh, she's not here, bro.
Come on.
All right, I'll read that in a sec.
Yo, Dustin Bond, thank you for the 100.
Why does everyone on the show, current episode and previous panels consistently say woman when referring to women plural because we fail at English in California, I guess.
I don't know.
Or in the U.S.
Yes, we do.
Consistent to say woman, women.
That's why.
I don't know.
That would also just sound wrong to you, but we are saying the right thing.
Yeah, maybe blame the sure SM7Bs, I guess.
Yes, Mike Davis, no apology needed from that blonde.
She's not even worthy to utter my name.
Holy shit, shots fired.
She talking about insecure energy when she got fake boobs.
I don't have fake boobs.
Hey, those titties are real.
Bro, check out her IG.
Just saying, okay, fake.
Look at the dicks.
Fake lashes, cake on her face.
Okay, I sell these lashes, so yeah, but I don't have a fake butt.
She doesn't have what?
He's loving those.
Chain courtesy of a goofy simp.
Did a simp pay for your chain?
I think he would still, I think he would still date me, though.
You know what I mean?
Mike?
Mike Davis would probably.
Maybe that's his way of saying.
Maybe he's curious if they're really.
Mike Davis, be gentle.
Be gentle.
Okay.
Maybe if you want to know if they're real, just ask that.
Say that.
I got to get up to try to figure out how to do it.
I think.
Thank you.
Madison, take it away.
What?
Huh?
I just want to say they look real.
They don't look fake.
They're not fake.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're saying, Mike, but can I tell you?
I've got a lot of money.
He owns a bunch of Burger Kings.
Really?
Mike?
What?
Yes.
Well, he should change his mindset on a woman.
He's not going to get married.
He's got a Burger Kingdom.
Where's the picture of Mike Davis?
Burger King.
Get the Burger Kingdom.
Do you want to be his Burger King?
It's just Burger Kingdom.
Burger to your king.
Well, you rule with the Iron Fist.
Simply father.
I don't know what to talk about.
I'm not a host.
All right, everyone.
I have a really important question.
Who items should be considered unclean.
Attention.
This is really deep, so if it's too deep, just let me know.
What's everyone's favorite color?
Oh, my God.
I'm a blue girl forever.
I like a good lilac.
Ooh.
Okay.
Wait, what did you ask Shana?
A very compelling question.
What was it?
What's your favorite color?
Bro, I leave for the pup.
One, two.
Eight, what?
Can somebody carry the conversation below?
We were carrying to the men in the chat.
Do you want the woman to pay for your meal at dinner?
Okay, I have a copy of that for everybody.
Or sorry.
No, yeah.
So I've noticed that there's this weird thing that we all refer to dating as a thing.
You have a thing with somebody.
You have a thing with somebody.
I find this to be the most disgusting and appalling Gen Z term ever.
Oh, I'm a thing.
I hate to think about it.
Oh, no, but a situation we have is dating.
That's what you used to call it in the 80s and the 90s.
You didn't call it a situationship.
You just were dating that person.
They weren't your boyfriend or your girlfriend.
I feel like relationships that start off with situationships and things are less likely to last.
Yes, that.
But I just hate the term thing.
It sounds just so like I'm a thing.
So what should the term be?
I would say I'm sitting there.
Like I'm dating.
I'm seeing somebody.
To be dating somebody doesn't mean you necessarily have to be their boyfriend or their girlfriend.
Yeah.
You can just go out and get out of date.
So you have a boyfriend.
They're courting you or whatever if you want to go.
I think there's guys also, but it's a TV effect.
Personal experience, being in like a thing, I was miserable being.
Yeah, they're terrible.
Situations like that.
They don't work.
we were talking about this earlier but and they last so long nowadays like It used to be like you go on dates and three dates maybe and then it's like your boyfriend and girlfriend.
And now it's a thing for like over a year and a half before.
Yeah, maybe that's why we call it a thing and it's not dating anymore because it's not just three dates.
I get it like right at the beginning.
Yeah, but once you've been on a few dates, it's like...
I just hate clients.
I mean, three months and then you're like luckless to be committed at like minimum.
More than three months and you guys are not going to work.
Do you think do you think it's possible to have like a healthy situation that might not last forever?
Like a summer fling when you know you're maybe not, you know, you love, you have love for someone, but both of you don't have the intention of like having a long-term committed relationship.
Do you think it can be the positive experience?
Yeah, you don't want to be able to do it.
To be real, it's not a bad deal at all.
No.
Yeah, if you're not on a summer fling, say you go to like Europe or something, find the summer fling.
You're going to leave and be so depressed.
Yeah, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You're putting too much value on the bad part of it.
What about the good part?
I mean, yeah, there's good parts, but don't you want that good part to last a little longer?
Yeah, just create other ones.
But how strong is it?
I feel like one side is going to be awesome.
And the other side, it doesn't go well.
I feel like there's always one person that's like, oh, I'm chill with this, just being a summer fling.
And there's always a person that maybe catches a lot of more feelings but doesn't want to admit it.
Yeah, that's true.
it's like situationships are just too common nowadays and it's like it's all there is Yeah.
I think people are just scared of commitment.
That's what I feel like.
Or they don't hold their boundaries firmly.
Because it's like, oh, we're together, but like, I'm allowed to maybe see other people if somebody else comes along.
Well, I'm about to say it's not even a fear of commitment.
It's just everyone is so disposable now with dating apps.
And I don't know.
You can just throw it away.
One wrong thing happens with the person that you're seeing.
You're like, oh, I don't like that.
But I know someone out there will else have it.
You know, you can date someone who's across the world now instead of just in your town.
It's also a good thing, too, though, I think, because if you are in a situation where you realize that someone does do that wrong thing, you know that there are plenty of fish in the sea.
That's fine.
And you shouldn't be afraid to hold your boundaries and know your worth.
Wait, are you saying that quote-unquote things might be good sometimes so you can catch red flags on the way?
Definitely.
I mean, I think before maybe you want to take something seriously, like your parents and stuff.
It's good to have a quick link.
I'm so excited.
It's going to be a good fight, but you simps.
I fixed it.
Is this the guy again?
Are we going to fight?
Oh, I read this.
I'm choosing violence and yeah, long notice.
Yeah, was this an old one?
The choosing violence does it all.
All right, we have energy.
Feeling she learns nothing.
Okay.
Feeling dangerous.
I said small energy.
I didn't say another word.
Okay, feeling dangerous.
113, donate 100.
Thank you, man.
For the women that define ambition, but not a dollar amount in terms of earnings, explain why that would be better than, I need to fix the size of this, but why would that be better than a steel worker, longshoreman, or oil worker, all three of which make six figures and don't cone with a risk of failure of blind emotion, come with a risk of failure or blind ambition?
That question was too long.
Yeah, I guess I'm not sure.
Explain why they would be better than a steel worker longshoreme.
I don't even think that they said that.
He's saying somebody that has ambition, but like has like a McDonald's job type thing is how is that better than somebody who has a skill worker job or whatever?
Okay.
I'm feeling dangerous.
Thank you, man.
Sorry.
It's going to cut off that last sentence, unfortunately, until I can fix it.
But did you have something?
No.
Oh, I thought you were about to.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't think guys should pay for first dates.
I don't think you should be expected to.
Well, I agree.
I certainly agree with that.
But I think that it's a nice gesture.
But you do pay for first dates, don't you?
Yeah.
You just don't go on dates anymore.
Depends.
Depends.
Here's my thing, Mr. Speaker.
How do you get, like, what reaction do you get to that?
Well, I mean, it varies, but my thing is when it comes to paying for the first date is you don't, a lot of people say, you don't get to keep the traditional gender roles that benefit you and disregard the rest.
So you have a bunch of liberal feminist women who will be, it's a deal breaker if the guy won't pay for the first date if they refuse to adhere to their own gender roles.
That's why I can't agree with paying, like, making you pay on the first date because it just doesn't, it doesn't add up with my other people.
I'm not saying making him pay.
It's more so if he's asking or just thinking that you're going to be like a shitter after that.
That's what I think.
If you don't like gender roles, then you shouldn't expect a man to pay for you on the first date.
Yeah.
You got to be consistent.
Wait, what's your response to that?
Oh, Jesus.
Like, I guess gender role, I mean, like, to negate gender roles doesn't mean that like the person who like asks you out or like if you're a submissive type, you don't want to be taken care of.
I can't really explain it.
It's like a mothers tell your daughters thing.
You know, he should pay for your first date.
That's gender roles, though.
Yeah.
So that means you believe in traditional gender roles.
Which I agree with you, but I believe in traditional gender roles.
I believe in certain gender roles.
Like in the form of like your own.
But you only believe in the ones that benefit you as a woman.
No.
Okay.
Not all.
Well, I think too, like, like you're saying, I don't think you necessarily have to abide by traditional gender roles to assume that a guy should offer to pay for a date that he asked you on.
I don't think that that's like necessarily completely true.
It's like situation-based.
So like, you know, for me, if a guy asked me on a date, I would still offer to pay, but I would expect him to offer as well because he's asking me.
And if he offered, like, I would probably say like, yes and say thank you, but that doesn't mean that I think that, you know, I should be a housewife and only like clean in the kitchen and that I shouldn't be independent.
Like I feel like it's deeper than that.
But if you don't believe in gender roles, then why do you think that men should in general pay for the date?
I don't think men should in general.
That's why I said like whoever is asking, you know, I think it would be respectful of them to offer because like they're asking someone else to come out and, you know, they're initiating the hangout.
But the majority of men ask, like we said, yeah.
Yeah, but the whole, again, the whoever asks, asks thing is at best naive because it ignores the fact that overwhelmingly men are the ones asking.
So, I mean, you can sort of play a word game and say, well, whoever I should pay, but if men are overwhelmingly, let's say in 95% of instances, the one who are asking, you might as well put an equal sign, Whoever asks, just replace whoever asks with men.
Okay, but like I said, I'm not the kind of person who, if a guy asked me to go on a date and I had an amazing time and met an incredible person and then had the best night of my life, I'm not just going to be like, oh, there's no second date because he didn't offer to pay.
And he was like, hey, do you mind if we split this?
That's not me personally.
So I think that I can say it, you know.
And that's, that's totally fine.
However, I think a lot of women would prefer the guy to pay.
And for a fair amount of women, that might be just a deal breaker full stop.
If regardless of how good the date would, it'd just be an instant stopper.
Hey, he paid or he wanted to split.
Wait, I have a question.
I'm no longer interested.
And we've had girls on the show admit as such.
Go ahead.
Do you, when you're on a date, do you expect the guy to open up the door for you, like pull out your seat when you sit down for dinner?
Like those gestures or drive you to the date?
I think that people are such unique beings.
And we come from different families and have different life stories and cultures.
And so I don't come in with the expectation of who I want them to be.
I let them show me who they are.
And that might be a traditional role that they're playing.
And I'll still have respect for that.
But I'm not looking for that.
And that's not a deal breaker for me at all.
But you also said that women should pay for a date, but then you said you don't care about how much money they make.
So it's kind of the same way of you saying to us, oh, but you want a man.
They're different gestures, so.
I'm just saying what you said to me is the same thing you said.
No, but I'm literally the same thing.
I said it's, I would think it's actually attractive if a girl offered to pay for the date.
But he said women should pay.
Huh?
But he said women should pay on the first date.
Well, I was being a little facetious because no sane man would expect a woman to pay.
So.
But you do.
But it's also like a pair of things.
I think what I said was that men shouldn't pay.
And I think it should be split.
To me, that's the most egalitarian thing.
That makes the most sense to me.
But you also saying you want to pay for your girlfriend to basically for everything.
You said you want to pay the bills.
No, so okay, I'm open to that.
I'm open to that.
Okay.
But it's not like I'm just exclusively dating women who are unemployed or in college.
I think she's kind of saying too, like, you, it's like a positive thing that you can admit being attractive to something, like while still kind of maybe respecting and wanting those traditional roles in your own future and your own relationship.
You can also, you know, find it attractive if a woman does something that's like not really that traditional, you know, thing.
It's also even like not that I'm, not that I'm like making the man pay for everything.
Like every date that I've been on, especially with my boyfriend to this day, like I'll still like hand out my card, but they just refuse to like let me pay.
It's not like, oh, I'm going to make you pay for the whole entire thing.
Like you have to pay.
Like I'm always going to offer, but.
I always offer to be nice.
I've got to do that.
But here's a question with a, like you, you offer to pay.
If the guy took you up on your offer, would you be a bit, I mean, I know you're married, but like let's say when you weren't, when you're still dating or whatever, would you be kind of turned off if he took you up on the offer?
Yes.
No.
I like that my husband, I would offer to be nice and like secretly white, but like he would be like, no way, you're not paying for anything on any date that we ever go on.
Okay.
And I like that.
You like that.
Yeah.
But if a guy were to have taken you up on the token offer, let's say, you would be a little deal breaker.
It would be a deal breaker.
I would pay, but then it would be no second date.
See, I got to challenge you a little bit on this here.
So women often complain that men are poor communicators, but if you offer to pay, I feel like men are very literal logical thinkers.
So like when I think of that, if a girl offers to pay and then say a guy in good faith takes up that offer and then you disqualify him because of the words that came out of your mouth, wouldn't that quite literally be poor communication?
I guess in a sense, but I think that that's like interactions with humans.
You know, there's gestures that you do to be polite and you know that there's just throughout life, there's gestures that people will do and you don't necessarily take it up on.
And it's more just about that guy's values, truthfully.
Like I like what I loved about my husband is that he's the type that would that feels that a girl should never pay for a date that they're on.
And so for him, that was like not acceptable, if that makes sense.
Sure.
So like I guess it's one thing if like the if you're like, oh, I want to pay, help pay for the state or whatever.
And he's like, no, no, no.
And you really, really pushed it.
Like truthfully, I went on a date with someone a few years ago before I was married and I didn't really want to have a second date.
And I kind of thought it was more of a friendship thing.
And so like on that date, I like really, really was like, no, no, I'll pay.
I'll pay because I didn't want to feel like I owed him anything, if that made sense.
And so then he ended up agreeing.
And so I think if you're, like you said, more forceful about it, then I don't think that makes you like a horrible guy.
Yeah.
And I have heard that from women where if the girl knows she's not interested, sometimes they will offer to split.
So I have heard that from women.
But look, I think the reason why I'm sort of hesitant to off the jump fall into the provider role, fall into traditional gender roles, is especially here in California, I would say 90% of women are not traditional women.
So like I'm not going to pay for a girl.
This is what I always say.
I don't want to pay for a girl who's fucking another dude.
And like in 2023, realistically, like a lot of girls have some dude that they're fucking and they're going on dates with other guys.
So like I don't want to be a sucker.
That's what it comes down to.
I don't want to feel like a sucker.
So I don't want to go pay for a girl, pay for her, even if it's fucking 10 bucks.
It's not even a money thing.
Yeah, it's a principle thing.
So I don't want to feel like a sucker, even if it's $10.
Like I don't want to feel like a sucker.
But do you date liberal women or is that like a turnoff for you?
Like, oh, I'm only interested in conservative women that are more along traditional general rules?
Because I get that.
That's hypocritical.
If you're like a hardcore feminist that believes in deconstructing gender roles and then you come in and you're like, I expect you to pay for my date.
Like I think that is hypocrisy.
And like you said, I come from a traditional background where you only date one person.
And so I don't think you should pay for a girl if she is going and sleeping around and everything.
Yeah, I feel like if you're intuitive enough to know what's going on, if you're going to go on a date with them.
Sorry.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I mean, I would say generally speaking, I'm not.
The women I attract and the women I'm interested in, generally speaking, are I like to think I have a fairly good radar for it, but like you genuinely, like even really unassuming women, they could be sleeping with three other dudes.
Like there's some shy, demure, introverted type chicks that are like, oh, they're fucking a lot of dudes.
And I don't know.
I don't want anything to do with a girl that's sleeping even with one other.
Well, I shouldn't even say even.
If you're sleeping with another dude and you're going on a date with me, it's over.
Bro, I don't know.
I mean, I don't have anything.
You're assuming.
So you're assuming that's his whole point.
I do assume that she doesn't know that.
So you just are going to assume and then kind of not pay because you don't know.
That's how I assume that because that's how a lot of people are moving.
Yeah, I think he's like saying that it's just kind of our culture now.
You'd have to initially assume that as a guy to kind of protect yourself.
I think it's your same aspect.
I mean, can you kind of assume the same thing though?
One way, I'm sorry, assume what?
Maybe a lot of women go on a date.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, but what about women if I'm paying for you and then you're fucking other girls?
We're not even paying, but like in general, going into, you know, it's kind of we're all in the same boat, not knowing who somebody is when you meet them face to face.
And so, you know, that's why I think it's all about like the really who who pays.
And at the end of the day, it's not really the big deal, but it's just about like who is that person?
Like, do you want to continue to spend time with them?
Are they, can you kind of sense, are they being true?
Are they being honest with you?
Because that day will turn into maybe a relationship and then obviously not going to be with other people during your relationship.
But it's the first date.
You can't expect them to be like loyal to you on the first date.
You do.
Yep.
If you're going to go out and like take the effort to go on a date with someone, then yeah, I'm not going to, I'm not going to go on a date with anyone if I'm kind of like, don't know where I'm at.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm saying like, let's say you're texting a guy or not even having sex with them or something.
And then you go on a date, but you're texting like a few guys or something or something like that.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
And then, or maybe she's not even having sex with them and then she goes on a date with you.
Like you consider that like unloyalty, but it's your first date.
Like why are you like expecting loyalty on your first date and you know this person?
Because she's not loyal if she's texting other dudes while going on a date with you.
That's already big.
Yeah, but I mean, but why would she be, why would you expect loyalty on your first date?
I don't expect it because I think it's a very rare thing.
It's what I want.
I don't, like, I want a girl coming to me properly single.
I don't want you to have a sneaky link.
I don't want you to have.
But you'd be considered a sneaky link or be considered one of the guy, or a guy that.
I don't want to be on the bench.
I don't want to be on your roster.
Go find, there's guys who are happy with that, but I want a girl to be properly single if she's going to be interacting with me.
But here's the thing, right?
Some girls are not going to be upfront with that.
And certainly guys are not going to be upfront with the other women that they're seeing.
The only difference is that I would say that women have to deal with that too.
Definitely.
Like, there's guys who have five chicks, seven chicks.
The difference is, though, is that there's more women who are seeing multiple guys or seeing another guy than there's guys that have multiple women.
Really?
Because I feel like, especially in this kind of world of podcasts and the red pill ideology, I feel like a lot of the time we hear men spewing this information about how, because like, you know, they're men and they need to spread their seed that, you know, women should accept that a guy's going to have urges and he might act on their urges, but she should be loyal to him and he can kind of fool around.
feel like that's a lot at least for me that's what I've heard a lot of and that I think makes women more kind of like the Andrew Tate sentiment yeah And a lot of those podcasts, you know, are in that similar realm.
So I think a lot of people might go into relationships or meeting people thinking they need that roster.
I mean, unless they actually want to be talking to all those people, but they think they need that to have this defense.
I mean, I don't think that women should be copying men's behavior.
A girl.
But so you approve of that men's behavior.
No.
Okay.
No.
I don't think men should be promiscuous either.
Okay, cool.
I think the thing is, though, is I think it's there are some.
I think the double standard though is that well, we don't have to get into the double standard, but yeah, let's not get into the double standard, but shit, where was I going with this?
Look, I just basically don't want to date a girl that's sleeping with another guy.
Like, that's just to me, it's just a matter of time.
I don't want to date a guy that's another girl either.
A guy who can't commit.
Yeah.
I think your initial response to me was: I was basically saying women are more likely to have other guys than men are.
Now, here's the difference, though, perhaps, because women are basically all chasing after the top 10, top 20% of men.
And we see this playing out on dating apps.
And the data is in from these dating apps.
Women swipe on like 10% of dudes.
I don't know the exact number.
It's crazy.
It's like they're above six foot.
Like, they're getting all the legs.
But dating apps are a horrible place to meet people.
They are, but I would say most people nowadays are actually meeting online.
I agree.
So they're not great places to meet people, but most people are meeting online.
And COVID started that too.
Yeah, definitely with COVID.
And so, and I mean, even before dating apps, like I would say women were like, if you have a room of 10 dudes and 10 women, there's going to be like one dude in that room that all the girls want.
And is that just by attraction?
Yeah, they're just all going to want the most attractive dude.
They might not be able to get him.
Which I think that goes for if there was a bunch of women in a room and there was a bunch of one man and he's picking the girl, maybe one girl in a room is getting majority of the men.
Well, yeah, certainly there might be one girl in that room who's the most attractive, but I think men tend to operate more in reality because here's the difference, right?
Like guys get slapped in the face every day with the cold, hard, brutal truth of the world, and that's through the rejection.
Whereas women don't really deal with rejection on the front end, women deal with rejection on the back end.
So basically that's like when you get fuck zoned, when a guy's not willing to commit to you or he keeps you as a side chick.
That's where women get rejected on the back end.
Men get rejected upfront really quick on the front end.
Like go up to a girl, nope, get away from it.
Like they'll get away with it.
That is what's painful though.
Imagine like you're trying to be with somebody, love somebody, and they won't commit to you.
That's getting you on about it.
Women also, this isn't the case for everybody, but women in general can be way more emotionally invested in relationship versus men can have, I think, way easier have that, you know, friends with benefit situation.
I mean, it's biological.
Women like release a chemical when they have sex with a man that they become attached.
And so I think that there's a lot more.
Really?
Yeah, you're a little bit more.
That is oxytocin.
Yeah, women.
That's such a love drug.
Yeah, women, I think, do build stronger bonds when they have sex with a guy.
And women in general, like I said, not everyone, but I feel like women in general look for relationships versus men aren't.
There's a lot of men on dating apps who are out there and they're just kind of looking to like really casually date.
And I feel like women, I'm a huge believer that feminism has completely destroyed our dating culture and has like really, I think, negatively impacted women.
Based.
Agreed.
Based.
I think it's also important to recognize, though, again, like, and I'm not saying you're wrong.
I agree with you on a lot of things you're saying, like the different goals of people in dating.
And it's about being upfront and honest.
It doesn't make people bad.
Like some people are polyamorous.
And if they're upfront and honest about that, then like they have to, they should just accept maybe they'll have a smaller dating pool with people that are open to that.
But people used to date for marriage.
That was the point of dating to get married and start a family.
But also marriage wasn't always a positive thing.
Marriage used to be like a man owned his wife in a lot of ways.
There was more domestic violence when in marriage.
It's hilarious.
Also, there's less benefits to marriage nowadays, too.
Marriage is the best possible thing for women.
It is.
It truly is.
Women do better financially.
Men do better financially as well when they're married.
Not when they get divorced, though.
But there's like 50%.
I already totally favor women.
And that's the kind of divorce.
If you divorce, all the laws favor women, you can take most of your husband's money when you're divorced.
This is a brina.
But financially, it makes way more sense for people to be married.
For your children, I mean, for men, especially if you grow up with a single mother, the rates of you being incarcerated, not graduating school, drugs, and all this stuff is sky high.
And so, you know, marriage is the best thing that's happened for both of the sexes.
And it's, I think, a huge problem in our society is a lack of marriage and relationships that are not traditional anymore.
And I think it's breaking down a lot of our cultural fabric and has very horrible implications.
I can definitely agree and understand with a lot of things you're saying, but I also think too that there's, again, so many situations where it might not be healthy for two parents to be together and they have children and they might, if they're trying to stay together in order to keep the family together, but it's a toxic environment, then that's going to have a negative impact on their children.
Like I grew up in a household where my parents got divorced and like it was one of the best things that ever happened to me personally.
Well, there is, obviously, I don't think it's a one-size-fits-all, but in general, children do better and people do better in marriages in a traditional nuclear family.
And all the data backs that up.
Yeah, I think you would statistically be happier if you got married and had kids.
It's just kind of a lot of people.
Conservative Christian women are the happiest.
There's been literally studying about this.
Married, conservative Christian women are the happiest people in society.
Amen.
Wait, you said you didn't want to have kids, right?
I don't want to have kids, yeah.
And you're also in a serious relationship?
I am.
How does your boyfriend feel about that?
He actually has kids.
Oh, okay.
And I love him.
How old's your boyfriend?
He is 48.
Oh.
Okay.
Per?
How many kids?
Yeah.
He has three kids.
So is that.
sorry go ahead is that like we are monogamy Does that affect your wanting of children?
No, honestly, it's been a blessing in my life to get to, you know, learn from children.
And I think the biggest thing I've learned is how they're so pure and that that gives me hope and humanity by seeing that like, you know, so there's these innocent souls that come into the world and the world might harden them as they get older.
But seeing that innocence and like that desire to give love and be love is like what gives me hope as a person.
Hope for what to do.
But the world can be a better place.
No, I don't, I just never, you know, I think that motherhood is a huge decision to make if you're going to make it and you should be enthusiastic and really want it if you're going to be good at it.
And you're going to, and if you don't enthusiastically want it, then you risk, you know, hurting an innocent child.
And so I take it seriously.
Like if it's not something that I know I want, I'm not going to do that to a child.
How old is he?
How old is he?
Boyfriend?
Okay.
Are you guys in a monogamous relationship?
I'm not in a monogamous relationship.
How did you meet him?
He is a DJ.
So I met him.
I met him on Maui.
He's a Tiesto?
No.
Is he a famous DJ?
He's like locally known, I think.
I don't know about you guys would know him.
Yeah.
Okay.
You said he's sorry.
48.
48.
Yeah, I'm going to say something else.
Wait, did you met him on Seeking?
No.
No.
I met him.
He's a DJ.
I dub.
And I met him because I went to a club.
There's like a little club on Maui, and he was DJing there.
We met.
Nice.
Yeah.
Really organic.
Definitely wasn't something I ever expected.
And I had had, you know, she's met him too.
And like, you know, he's very young at heart.
So.
Sure.
Okay.
So we're going to come back to some of that stuff later.
Question.
Who here, you know, technology's advancing real fucking crazy.
We've got a doll in the back there, you know, that's the future.
The way of the future.
Like Leonardo DiCaprio and Aviator.
Is he aviator?
That's the name of the movie.
Who here would be down to get with like a really high quality AI sex robot?
Like in 10 years or some shit.
Like if like do they have feelings and everything?
Like what?
This is like the start of the Matrix or something.
Show of hands.
Who would be down for like this amazing dude?
Amazing dude robot, I guess.
Like anybody down to like with a sex robe on it?
No.
That's so weird.
I'll raise my hand.
No, come on.
I'm down.
Let's never.
I mean more for the experience, but I think it would be like so.
It wouldn't be able to give me children.
No, because there's something so special.
No, it's just sex doll.
It's just you could still have it.
You still have a human, but like also it does chores for you and shit.
But it's a robot.
It's a robot.
It's not a human.
That'd be a terrible thing.
And it's happening.
It's starting to happen.
There's like $10,000 dollars.
Think about it.
Jeff Bezos would be just beyond dystopian.
Like she could mow your lawn and shit.
So you'd want a robot wife.
No, I'd still like get with real humans, I guess.
Well, hey, I'm careing my computer wife.
He wouldn't be opposed.
Why couldn't you just get a robot to do your chores?
Yeah, I want to do that.
I want to have a sex movie.
He said the sex doll.
I want the all-in-one package.
I want the chore robot.
He loves a chase, too.
He's got to have a chip.
And get a good traditional woman that will do your chores.
Or are you just shitting with this?
I'm dead serious.
Bring on the sex robots.
Okay.
I'm for it.
What if it's like not, how are they going to replicate the body?
Squishy.
I got a fucking cutie right over there, bro.
Touch her.
I'll touch her boots.
Let's talk about, let's talk about, let's talk about, oh, is it a vagina?
Yeah, yeah.
Hold on, guys.
So, show of hands.
Who here has ever used a sex toy?
Sex toy as in, like, a dildo or like a vibrator?
Is it weird that I've never used it?
A vibrator account?
Yeah, a vibrator account.
Yeah, vibrator.
Really?
So this is a question.
I've never used one.
Question for the girls here.
Would it be a turn off or a deal breaker?
Wait, so just show.
You guys already did it.
Would it be a turnoff or a deal breaker if you found out a guy had a male sex toy?
It's done.
Hold on.
Let's go around the table.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
If a guy had a male.
You start.
Go ahead.
No, I mean, I think when you, I think it's interesting to learn with a partner about how your habits can affect your sexual relationship.
Like, if a guy's watching porn, you can explore about how that affects dope amino.
If a girl's watching porn.
Okay, hold on.
Bro, he's got a pocket pussy like on the bedroom nightstand.
Deal breaker, yes or no?
I mean, it would be a discussion, potential deal breaker.
First time going over to the guy's house.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, it's just like off-putting to me personally.
Deal breaker.
Deal breaker.
Ignore the like nightstand scenario.
You just find out.
You've been dating.
Let's say you, I don't know, three dates or something.
He's got a pocket pussy.
I'm just not one.
I don't agree with like porn, like a guy like Jeff.
No, not porn, just like a fucking pocket pussy.
I think just jacking off is better.
Like why you gotta have a whole like fake vagina?
How else?
That like squirts water and shit.
That's like no water squirting.
Like a fake vagina.
Like a fake vagina.
And we put stuff in it, right?
To like make it went.
It isn't pouring water at you.
But they're like putting water in air.
No, Luke.
Technically, a vibrator is like.
It's like a vibrating penis.
No, it's like them jacking off, kind of.
Unless you're using like a giant dildo.
Do you want your girlfriend using a dildo?
When did we get used to the feeling of vibrations inside of us and lighting up to turn on?
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
Like, when did, like, when was it?
Like, pocket pussy is like, I mean, come on.
But it is like a fake vagina.
They do the book.
I feel like it's cheating.
You feel like it's cheating if a guy has a pocket pussy.
Yes, it's not my vagina.
It's someone else's.
But you said you had dildos and shit right now.
No, I don't have dildos.
I'm not using dildos.
Oh, vibrator, excuse me.
A vibrator, which I don't think is the same.
It's not like a fake dig that looks like a dick.
Yeah, but it's like, how else is a guy, like, a guy can't get off if you put a vibrator?
Like, that's not how a guy's get off.
He can.
And his blue.
Yeah, but that's not a sex toy.
We're talking about sex toys.
Wait, okay.
Well, what about you?
Deal breaker if a guy's got a pocket pussy.
Why should he?
Okay.
The question was: it's out.
It's out on the table.
It's like a flashlight of my vagina.
Fuck that, but let's just forget the out thing.
Well, first thing I know that, man, I'm not going to TPE this and be like, I know that pee-pee or whatever, pocket pussy is not comparing to like my acrobatic, whatever.
But like, it's not a deal breaker because, like, how you masturbate and how you relieve yourself is on you.
But, like, I personally, as somebody who like has like a weird relationship with, like, like, masturbating is like, would I want somebody more like me?
I don't really know.
If you're into the pocket pussy, man, I don't kind of care, but it's kind of like, I've never really, I've never been with someone who I know has one.
Like, I've never met a man who's like who I'm into, who we're talking, who if we're fucking or sleeping together.
And he's like, hey, I have a pocket pussy.
Do you have one?
But like, you want to fuck and bring it out?
Would you think less of a guy that you were dating if you discovered either he said, hey, maybe we could incorporate it or you just found out it was an, I don't know.
You found out or he just told you.
Why would he want to incorporate a pocket pussy if he is a real one right in front of you?
That means he doesn't like you enough.
Yeah.
If he got a pocket pussy, that means he doesn't like you enough to have sex pushes.
I feel like at that point they're just watching too much porn.
I gotta know.
Fair enough.
I gotta know.
Here, what about you?
I was thinking about, like, I feel like if they had like more like regular sex twice, but if there was one of those.
No, no, no, not a sex doll.
Just like a flashlight.
Like a pocket pussy, I guess.
Yeah, okay.
Oh, piss me out.
I don't know.
Like, I guess, I guess not.
I mean, it would be like a I, like, why is that out on the bed?
You didn't think to put it away before I got here.
But I don't know.
Like, I use a vibrator, so I feel like I cannot judge somebody for using a pocket pussy.
Shania, what about you?
I mean, I.
So I usually date men who live far away from me.
So I myself cannot be there every single night.
So if he has one and he needs to use it, get your thing, dude.
You do it.
Get your pocket pussy.
Yeah.
I'm cool.
Just don't leave it on the table.
while we're eating like you know but and it's like sorry sorry sorry Sorry.
That laugh was so hard.
The laugh is like for dinner.
That was awesome.
Ew, like, you guys have seen the memes of like the dirty ass, like, the fucking crackhead memes with like fucking pocket pussies like on the floor in like the car in like the fucking loft.
Okay.
What about you?
Me?
Yeah.
Absolutely huge turn off.
Huge turn off.
You discover like your husband, you're going through the drawers or whatever, and it's just like a fucking pocket pussy.
Like, is it a divorce insta-divorce?
It would be fair.
Its name is like therapy.
He would never do that.
I mean, I feel like there's this certain type of person that would do that.
And like that would just never be someone I would marry.
Okay.
But yeah, okay.
So I love that.
You wouldn't insta-divorce your husband, but insta therapy.
Insta therapy.
How do you feel?
Like, are you like, what the fuck?
What are we naming the fucking pussy?
Yeah, I'd be really angry.
I mean, I can't even visualize it because it's just like so out of the realm of possibility.
Like, I like I said, I just have never dated someone that would be that type of person.
And yeah.
Madison, what about you?
I'd say it's like a, it's not a deal breaker, but it's just like a, what the fuck?
Like, why do you have it?
If Frankie ever, no.
If Frankie ever, if I was going through his stuff and found a pocket pussy, not gonna lie, I would be mad.
I would be so mad at him, actually.
You'd be mad at pocket pussy pussy pussy.
I'd be mad.
You'd be mad at the pocket pussy.
I'd be kind of mad.
Yeah, as you should be mad.
Like, we're together 24-7.
Like, why do you need a pocket?
And I got weird ones too with like fake butts and stuff.
Freaking.
Oh, yeah.
That was something I thought about.
Like, I feel like it's a little different, actually, for women to have sex toys because it's so hard for women to climax.
I think women having sex toys is kind of weird, too.
Like, a guy loses your hand.
Yeah, like, it's so exciting.
It's so hard, but like for a guy, like, you just got your hand.
Yeah.
Like, it's.
You can't really use our hands.
Like, you can, but, like, it takes longer.
I couldn't use my hand.
I just feel like it's a part of this larger culture that sex is now just so transactional.
Like, and there's just no, like, there's nothing sacred now about sex.
It's just, like, two consenting individuals or a sex toy or whatever, and that, like, makes you happy.
And I just think that, like, completely has degraded, like, the meaning of what sex is supposed to be.
Yeah.
I think sex too, though, like, for example, like, a woman who might be like celibate who uses a vibrator.
Like, do you think that could potentially be a sacred experience for her to connect to her sexuality to figure out what she likes and to like, you know, become in touch with her body in a way that maybe she never experienced in a relationship and is celibate?
Like, do you think that that is, you know, a bad thing?
I, I personally, like I said, it's a free country, so people are free to do what they want to do in the privacy of their bedrooms.
But I believe that sex is supposed to be between two people who love each other and are committed to each other.
And so I think we live in a culture now that has completely degraded that and has made sex transactional.
And I think that largely hurts women more than men.
I feel like sex kind of always was secretly transactional, but then it was like the popularization of media and like book.
I mean, like, books always, but like the population of sex books, population of sexy TV scenes, population of sleeping around.
Like it's all glamorized on TV.
So it's like it comes to the light.
And it's like, of course, if you're sleeping around back in the day, you're not really going to talk about it because the word hoe predates.
Okay, hold on.
I need to stay the course a little bit on this conversation.
So just a little game, I feel like it's probably worse, actually, if a dude's masturbating as compared to using a black pussy.
because like these dudes like if they're if they're actually masturbating like you can holy shit what the fuck is going on with your mic over here you think it's gay or something that they like themselves a little too much no because like they've got the fucking if they have the death grip it's like they're not going to be able to some dudes like won't be able to come during sex if they've like fucked up their sensitivity because they got the fucking Well, if you do too much.
Okay, there's guys that need to be a bit of a single.
A pocket pussy is a bit more like, you can't death grip that shit.
So it's going to be like a little more.
The things that you're doing.
Or if they're watching men doing it.
Well, you mean death grip like because you could close your hand really hard?
Yeah, they got bigger.
Never mind.
They're like way too tight with the fucking sky.
They need somebody.
There would just really be sad satisfaction during sex if they're watching horns.
But it's interesting though.
Like nobody backs an eye.
Hold on, hold on.
Do you Kiggles?
Nobody backs an eye if a girl has a vibrator or dildo.
Like she's in touch with her sexuality, whatever.
But if a dude has a pocket pussy, all of a sudden he's less than huh?
He's looked down upon.
I don't agree with that.
I know.
I think it's so weird if you use a dildo.
No, that's just.
I think that's pretty common.
That's pretty normal.
But speaking of, we have something in studio here.
Shania, you were talking about putting it on the table.
So, well, I'm going to have you reveal this and then just put it on the table, please.
Me.
Yeah, that one over there.
So I have here what's called an auto-blow.
I don't want to see this.
It's freaky.
And it's actually, so this is an auto-blow AI.
And what it does.
You should not be promoting this.
And hold on.
So you turn it on, turn the switch on.
Okay.
And then press the power button.
Why does it do circles?
Oh, the play.
Is it used?
And then it's got 10 different speed settings.
So check this shit out, bro.
I need like the same thing.
I mean, at least we don't want to get it to be a little bit more.
That's sexy.
Why?
What is interesting?
Wait, what is the bottom part?
I'm like a little nauseous.
So this is like getting off shaming and not shaming.
That's horrifying.
That's like so disturbing.
What if you're like really girthy?
I don't want that shit.
I'm not against it.
Is that the fastest?
So wait, is this for a guy or a girl?
Here, put it on the table.
I'm confused.
This is for a guy, right?
Yeah, it's for a dude.
So wait, I'm confused on how you use this.
Are you laying down or do you put it against a wall or like pokey to just lie back?
You put on some jazz.
You put on some jazz.
No, you put on the music.
You put on what do men should do when they use this?
Please tell me.
Do you know?
Wait, I'm a question.
I'm putting on weakness.
I have a question, though.
Does this make men less satisfied during this at home?
If men do this often, does that make them less satisfied during actual sex, for example?
That's what I was thinking.
Can you hit the pause jacket off and using these?
They must be boring.
Yeah, exactly.
Is looking at this doing anything for you?
You don't have to answer, honestly, but is looking at it like doing anything?
That's disgusting.
Thank God we have hope based on this.
Is it due to the mechanical part?
This is the future.
No, I feel like a grandma looking at this shit.
This is lean on the diCaprio.
Someone said, imagine the bacteria.
Ew.
I don't like how it just like dangles.
Why can't we just use their hand?
I mean, listen, listen.
Sexual revolution wasn't.
Look.
I'm just saying.
By the way, these came from Bosnia, son.
Have you ever been to Bosnia?
Have you ever been in the shit?
I'm just kidding.
They don't know.
He said, Imagine the bacteria.
Look.
Yeah, come on.
Yeah, how do you do that?
Look.
It's an auto-blow AI.
I assume that AI stands for artificial intelligence.
You plug it in, fucking automatically blows you.
Word.
The worst part is it's.
It just makes me uncomfortable being in front of me.
Yeah.
Put it like right to it.
Take it away.
Take it away from her just a little bit.
Listen, as someone who has carpal tunnel syndrome, this shit seems like a game changer.
I'm just saying.
I don't know.
It's the Ferrari of Fallatio.
It's the Jaguars.
It's the Bugani of Blow Jobs.
No.
And it's got 10 different speed settings.
Use code whatever.
10% of it.
Use code whatever.
Link in the description.
Oh, this is like you need a blowout.
We have a link tree link.
You have to go to the link tree link if you want to check it out.
Guys, check it out.
You know, 10% off.
Use code whatever.
Yeah, okay, that thoroughly made.
I feel like self-love is very reflective of.
We gotta ruin your sex toys.
Do you think that's gonna make people less satisfied in sex?
Yes.
Yeah, I can't look at any more.
What do you guys think about the relation between, like, sex toys and self-love?
Like, if you're, like, really, if you're, like, personally, I'm just not into it because I, like, you know, like.
Into sex toys?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because just, I guess, like, I like a person, you know, and I don't like the like.
I think that's it.
And I don't even like really like doing it by myself unless like, I don't know, like, I don't know.
Like, it has to be special or like a special mood or whatever.
But like, if you're like, have a fanatic for sex toys and you're, you're probably lovely.
You're probably really creative.
You know, you probably really have a good imagination.
Wild thing.
Because you spend a lot of time.
Well, first thing, what scares me about that is that it's a plug-in.
It's not battery powered.
Second thing, that might make it safer.
That might make it safer.
But if you're sitting with your, if you're sitting with your, with your, what's it called?
I'm going to name it.
Autoblow.
What's her name?
It's the Auto Blow.
The Auto Blow.
But she needs a name, you know?
She's making you come.
Gertrude.
Gertrude.
So you're sitting there with Gertrude.
There's Kiki.
And you're getting imaginatory.
Are your eyes open?
Are your eyes closed?
Are you watching Gertrude?
Like, I mean, you have to be a really creative person to sit there.
Because I'm not turned on by the robot.
Or are you turned on by the robot?
That's okay.
It's just like you're watching.
You could be watching porn, I guess, while you're.
But are you choosing to watch porn or are you looking at the machine?
No, you don't look at the machine.
It's the feeling and then they're like watching something and they're just imagining.
Because the machine looks scary as fuck.
Stop.
Sorry.
That's why you guys shouldn't use tender.
But does it get us further and further away from actual like good sex is my question.
Yeah, like you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Look, if you just need to put it on my top.
If you just need a nut, why not?
But why do you just need it?
You know, it's actually bad for men to like jack off all the time and watch porn.
It's bad for them.
Word.
Bro, bad.
Porn is crazy.
I mean, I feel like it's fine if you, if you're, okay, don't get one if you're not single.
That's all I have to say.
It's so bad for men at the end of the day.
She's anti-porn if you're dating her.
Or you've got OnlyFans.
Hello?
But I'm not doing porn.
Like, I'm doing like soft porn.
It's not like posting on Instagram.
Like, it's not like I'm doing porn.
Just because you have an OnlyFans is a meeting porn.
Yeah, and like, I guess for you, because I know you personally, and I know you're like, you represent a huge amount of OnlyFans girls who, how do I put this?
They are not, they're not porn stars.
Like, you're, you're anti-porn.
You, like, a lot of it is like, I disassociate with the people who use my content, right?
Like, I'm not a porn user.
I'm not even a masturbator, but I have OnlyFans.
You have OnlyFans?
No, I don't.
No, I don't.
But I'm talking to like a hypothetical person.
But I have OnlyFans, but I'm not really into the whole idea of OnlyFans.
And it's fun for me.
I mean, I love, I love, like, I think it's funny, or I think it's kind of cute that like a lot of girls are kind of like, like, really, like, disassociate the customers.
I mean, I guess some people have to do it.
It's kind of like a drug dealer that sells weed but doesn't smoke weed.
Some people get off on it.
Like, I knew a girl who did OnlyFans when she sat home and like and like masturbated on like FaceTime all day.
Like she nutted like 10 times a day and she was like into it.
Oh, you're fine.
I knew an OnlyFans girl who would like masturbate and like all day and just do sentence like people would pay her for FaceTimes and she would like come over and over again.
And I know that if you're doing that, that's kind of like, it's become, I don't know, has it become your kink?
Or is it just like you liked it in the first place?
I don't know.
How does OnlyFans dictate your sex life?
And like if you're doing it hardcore, if you're doing it, personally, like I like looking at a picture myself.
You just asked like seven questions there.
Okay.
But can you explain what I'm trying to say?
Yo, hold on.
Feeling dangerous.
Thank you, man.
I'm sorry I forgot your name, but the based woman next to Madison, I pay for the first few dates as a man.
After that, I use as a means to communicate how much money I expect a woman to contribute to the household in the future, good or bad idea.
That's for you.
Okay, I pay.
Oh, wait, could you pull it back up?
Yeah.
I pay for the first gates as a man, and as a man, I communicate how much money acceptable.
Well, if you're going to read it, read it out loud.
I mean, I think it just depends on your relationship with that woman.
And if that woman is someone who's very career-driven and wants a career, I think that's great to support her.
But, you know, if she wants to be a mother and stay at home and raise the kids, it's a really important job.
I think it's the most important job in society.
And I think it's very undervalued.
And as someone who does have a baby, I know it's a full-time job.
And so I think men should also respect that that is a full-time job, cleaning, cooking, taking care of it.
It's the hardest job.
I can.
But, you know, obviously, we live in an economy, like you mentioned earlier, where that is not the case, where everybody can have a stay-at-home wife.
And so in a marriage, you need to make decisions together on what works best financially for each other and support each other.
Sure.
All right.
We have Rachel Fallen.
Thank you.
If being upfront about your goals, why not normalize arranged marriages in the U.S. Arranged?
Because it's not true love.
Yeah.
You have no idea.
You have no idea who a person is, like, even three months into a relationship, to be honest.
Like, I feel like it can take a long time.
Hold on just a sec.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
$199.
A lot, not all, of current women versus sex toy.
Both don't clean or cook.
Don't communicate when something is wrong.
And it is acceptable to replace the sex toy when loose.
Based?
Hello?
What?
Wait.
So he's basically saying that sex toys are the same as the robot.
The robots.
Okay, both don't.
Both don't clean or cook.
Don't communicate when something is wrong.
It is acceptable to replace the sex toy when loose.
Well, he's being the wrong woman.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you, Odin.
Just going back to Rachel's comment about why not normalize arranged marriages in the U.S.
I mean, I don't think that that would cause more divorces.
You know what?
Actually, that's not true.
That's not true.
People who are in arranged marriages are statistically happier and they get less divorces.
I think cultures with arranged marriages.
Yeah, they generally don't.
I'm not advocating for arranged marriages, but I just thought that that was an interesting thing.
So, like, there's no way that they can get out.
They have to be aware of that.
Well, but it's also happiness levels, too.
Like, people who are in arranged marriages also are statistically happier.
I think that there's the opposite problem in the U.S. where there's, like, we were talking about with dating apps, you're swipes, and it's like almost too many options.
Like, how do you actually meet someone?
Like, I think when you're dating someone, you can't expect that person is going to be absolutely perfect, and you have to take people at their flaws as well.
And so, like, obviously, totally against arranged marriages, but I think we have an opposite point.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Make no mistake.
She doesn't want love messing with a 48-year-old geezer.
Men already have a lower life expectancy, which means he's gonna kick the bucket before she hits 48.
Now, what?
The female equivalent of a male DJ is a truck stop lizard.
Weirdo.
He's on the bottom of the middle.
I'm really proud of your response.
So proud of you.
Thanks for your message, Mike.
First of all, he's not just a DJ.
That's like one of his business endeavors, and he has a couple.
Not that that matters anyway, but I think that if you have this assumption that just because people are different ages that they can't have a healthy relationship, then you're entitled to that, but that doesn't say anything about the reality of my relationship.
So I'll just keep being happy.
And you seem like you're doing really, you're happy with all your messages, too.
So spending money to hate.
She's happy.
Good for the pod.
Good for the pod.
Yeah, man.
Okay, we have, let's get some chats.
All right.
It's less pent-up anger than the others.
We love you.
All right, K-Pip, thank you, man.
Men in general want to feel desire.
Madison, can you read it?
Men in general want to feel desired if a woman pays for the date.
It's going to make him feel desired.
When women stop making a man feel desired, that is when they more likely will cheat, not saying that it's okay, just saying that's what happens.
Yeah.
I definitely think that, I mean, there's this talk about, there's definitely some talk about, well, you know, you'd want the guy to pay because that's him showing that he's actually interested in you.
But I think you could actually make a much stronger argument for the reverse.
If a girl pays for you, then she must genuinely be super interested.
Because if it's just the expectation that men should pay, I don't think it really indicates his level of interest in you.
I'm sure a girl has been paid for on a date and then got like maybe they hook up and then he never talks to her again.
So I don't think a guy paying on a date is any indicator that the guy's not going to hit it and quit it.
So yeah, whereas the reverse, if a girl's like, here, I'm going to, I want to pay for you.
Let me simp.
Then you're like, bro, she's fucking into you.
But I don't think the reverse is.
No, that's not always the case.
Like you were saying that you paid for like a moment.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
Yeah, because you can't give him that message.
That's when a girl will, like, if a girl splits on a date, that could be an indicator that she's just, yeah, she doesn't.
But he was talking about like not just dates, talking about like a whole relationship.
Yeah, that's true.
I love taking care of him.
I mean, like, off rip, when I first meet you, I kind of want to, I guess paying for it might be the sense of commitment.
Like, if we're into each other and him paying for it is a sense of, I don't want to say responsibility because I just don't, but like, you get, kind of get the feeling that he's serious.
Also, I feel when you're in a relationship.
Because of the stigma.
Yeah.
But that's okay.
I feel like also in a relationship, like, let's say, you know, he's like not doing as good financially, like in the long run, or something happens.
And if you have more, you can, like, help support that.
You know what I mean?
Like, it doesn't have to just be the man paying for everything.
It could be like if he's going down bad or something happens, like, you're there to support him as well.
Like, that's what a team is, like, supporting each other.
You know, it's another interesting aspect that we haven't talked about that I also think is because of feminism.
When men pay for, I've heard a lot of my friends talk about this.
When men pay for the date, they automatically expect that you're going to go home with them and that they're going to get something out of that.
And that's kind of like how our culture works nowadays.
Yeah.
I think that's, I mean, not with everyone, obviously.
Like, obviously not a good guy, but there are a lot of guys.
My friends have talked about that they feel like in a very awkward situation because of that.
And, you know, that's obviously because of hookup culture or everything.
Or you feel like you owe them something type thing if they pay for your dinner.
All the more reason to not pay for the first date.
Okay, we have a sweet tooth here.
Men should pay for the traditional woman.
It's if she's not traditional, split or have her pay.
3FOs can kick rocks.
What does that mean?
True.
304.
Area code.
That's an area.
304 is.
I agree with that.
Area code.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't say like if she's not traditional, split or have her pay.
I'm not, I mean, have, I wouldn't go into it.
I would never go into a date expecting her to pay for me the same way that a lot of women, not all women, but a lot of women will go into a date expecting the guy to pay for them.
But I think you should split.
Pay for your respective meals.
So especially if she spends more than like, yeah.
I also wanted to touch on something you said, and I think that's interesting how like when we're throwing out words like feminism or like traditional women, it's interesting because it is so layered.
I can like, call myself a feminist and then somebody else who might call themselves a radical feminist would say that's not feminist because you're wearing makeup and and somebody who might say that.
You know, we all have our own kind of personal definition of like where we stand, but a lot of the times we might find things that we actually do agree on and it's not black and white at all.
You know, I think feminism isn't what it used to be and it comes with like, a lot of values that I'm very pro-woman and I believe in women's equality and I believe in like, empowering women.
But I find that a lot of feminism does the exact opposite, which is why I call myself an anti-feminist based.
Wait, who here's a feminist?
How can you like?
But like what it can definition?
Definitely in definition.
Yeah, it has to be your personal definition, because some anybody because you know, like somebody who's a radical feminist, for example, like would call a lot of women who call themselves feminists like that say that they're not feminists.
But before we get into the feminist conversation, I just want to thank uh Sweet Tooth.
We, I know we read it, but thank you, Sweet Tooth, for the uh super chat.
Appreciate all your uh support tonight and in previous streams, and then we just have one here from Streamlabs.
We have, uh Shania, can you read this?
This is me shouting out, Shanaya, as the goat, every show she's on.
Can you make a goat noise?
I don't think I can.
What noises do goats make?
Yeah, can you do?
No, do it?
Come on?
Come on please please please, please.
I i'm not one of the oppression, what do you mean?
You don't need a voice.
Come on.
Yeah, that's a lot of stuff going on.
Give us a little mirror.
Okay, all right, stoically.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the uh donation.
Okay so uh, feminism uh, just again.
Just show of hands.
Who considers themselves a feminist?
Whatever your sense of that word is what?
Okay, all right, were you gonna raise your hand?
I mean, i'm like a woman's woman.
Wait, can you scoot the mic closer towards you and just tilt the mic down just a tad?
You're a woman's woman yeah, like I. Are you a boss babe?
A boss babe.
Are you a boss bitch?
I mean, i'm a.
I mean, i'm a boss.
Are you a boss ass bitch?
I mean I. She's married to the money.
Of course she's married to the money.
You're married to the game, but I know what you're trying to say.
You're trying to like make that a bad thing, but no, i'm just asking, are you a boss babe?
Like you're making fun of that kind of but whatever you are.
So that's why i'm not saying, fair enough okay, but are you a feminist?
You three right okay um okay um, so I I, actually we can start with you and then we'll work our way.
That way, what's your definition of wait wait, wait.
Actually, let me just read this super chat from Mike Davis.
Really quick yo, Mike Davis.
Um actually Madison, can you read it?
You goofs don't realize.
I'm a multi-millionaire and did so without selling my soul.
$100 to me is less than one cent to cheat, one cent to you, entertainment money.
The West is the lost cause.
I'm just enjoying watching it burn.
I got foreign women, much prettier than you basics, who worship me.
This is Mike Davis, by the way.
So is this like your main sponsor sponsor, guy boom define, Define our worship of you, please.
But at the end of the day, money doesn't buy happiness.
It does.
You know, there's a new study that proves that money does increase happiness.
It can increase happiness because you're not as stressed out financially.
But at the end of the day, long term, that's why you see all these celebrities commit suicide or doing drugs because they can't find that love.
Humans, at the end of the day, like want love.
We all just want love and acceptance.
It's not just about money and materialistic things.
It does make you happy.
It makes you feel happier.
Too much money can really corrupt and cause a lot of issues in your life.
I think there's a balance of being like wealthy and be able to provide for your family.
That'll bring a lot of happiness.
You know what, though?
My thinking is that, like, let's say you felt like you had some experience in the workforce for a couple years.
You're a wage slave.
It fucking sucks.
Maybe you're doing physical labor.
Maybe you're sitting for 10 hours a day at a fucking cubicle.
That to me is draining.
So I think money would make you happier insofar as if you came into such a significant amount of money that you could retire, say, for example, at 25 or 30, it would be hard for me to, if I came into such an amount of money where I could just never work again, I would be pretty fucking happy.
You wouldn't want to work.
Like, I'd all do anything.
Honestly, like.
You get bored of it quick.
Yeah, I know.
I got like a family or a good hobby.
Yeah, you need to build.
Oh, I have hobbies.
I have hobbies.
If someone just put $30 million in my bank right now, I'd probably just retire.
Podcast.
I just fucking chill.
Maybe I'd still do a podcast, but I'd.
Well, that's why you see a lot of super rare people.
They're just doing random things because they're kind of bored and they like start things because they're bored and they're kind of just bored, you know, because they have so much money.
Kids get there and get bored with life after that.
Go buy like a little go-kart or something right around the world.
And then you get bored after that.
Everything is temporary.
Temporary happiness.
Yeah, but like being a wage slave is not happiness.
Fucking sitting in a cubicle for 10 hours wage cook.
That's why it's good to choose the career path that makes you happy and something you're actually passionate about.
Hello, Eric.
Hello?
Hello?
I do agree with the point that you're getting at.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like success is very.
It's defined in two different ways nowadays.
I feel like.
Eric, you cannot have that window open, man.
What?
All right.
Anyway, people think like success is money, but success is happiness.
Exactly.
There's a balance, like everything.
Yeah.
Eric, that window can never pop up on stream, okay?
Yeah.
They're right next to each other, though.
But why were you in the Windows tab to begin with?
Does anyone just see my home?
Yeah, the pause.
Because the buttons are right next to each other.
Wait, so it's been running the whole time?
What?
The video's been running the whole time?
No.
Okay, whatever.
What were we talking about?
I don't know, Mike Davis's thing.
Okay.
More money, more problems.
Okay, we were talking about feminism, right?
Oh, yeah, that too.
What's your definition of feminism?
The belief that men and women are equal.
Okay.
That's it.
So feminism is about equality.
Yes, purely, in my opinion.
What's your sense of feminism?
Definitely equality.
It's kind of funny to see how, like, when people start to name movements that are like, I don't know what happens to like an idea and a belief once it gets a movement.
Why does it become so bullied?
Like, why is it when people stand up for like feminists?
Are you talking about feminism being like what happens when you feel like feminism and it's become such like a movement where it's like uplifting women by degrading men?
Yeah, correct.
That's exactly the same thing as the alpha male.
It's like the small technology.
Hold on, please, please.
Before we give our response, let's allow them to define what a feminist is.
Sorry.
Oh, you?
Oh, me?
Yeah.
Well, you didn't identify as feminist, right?
I think that we live in a society where, or just, I think that feminism is about liberty and about freedom for all people, for all beings.
And so that by supporting, and people have their different definitions of feminism, but by like generalizing feminism as a whole and saying that it means one thing is being kind of ignorant to the many, many layers of feminism and the many ways that people have completely opposite beliefs and will still call themselves feminists.
So I'm, my definition of feminism is being as free as the person next to me, regardless of their sex, regardless of their gender.
Okay, so equality or yeah, equality for all people.
Sorry, Madison, did you want to continue with your take?
Oh, I was just going to say, like, I believe in the same things that like all of you said, like, equality.
Hold on.
Okay.
Batsundus Corex donated $200.
Blonde girl with the fact has gap next to Shrek with a wig.
What you need to do is get married to a dentist to fix that messed up grill.
Catch braces, not bodies.
I already have braces.
You are truly a dying.
Why are you so mad?
Who's mad?
I love my gap.
If you check my Instagram, it says girl with the gap literally on there.
It definitely makes me money.
And why are you so mean?
Did you comment this just to come for me?
Who's discount Kate Beckinsale?
Who's discount?
Who is Discount Kate Beckinsale?
Yo, Victor, thank you, man.
Hey, Eric, can you pull up Victor's Instagram?
It should be on the tab.
Victor's one of our longtime supporters.
I want to ask the girls, like, would you date this guy?
Let's see.
Is this a guy who just said something rude?
Yeah, this is a guy.
This is, check out his Instagram.
Scroll up.
You can scroll up a little bit.
All right, Victor, can you pull up that first photo of him?
Yo, do you see all these comments?
That's from us.
Yo, go to everyone in the chat, pull up his Instagram.
And like, I want you to put you to put that emoji where there's like the fingernails and it's the nail polish.
The one that looks like this.
Yeah, the nail polish emoji.
I want you to spam his comments with the nail polish emoji, guys.
All right, sweet.
Oh, would you guys date him?
No, no, huh?
Because of what he said or just because of the money?
No, I mean, I'm one that's I'm not really attracted to him.
Oh.
Rip.
Sorry, Victor.
Okay.
Anybody else?
And also.
Shania, are you down for him?
I'm good, but thank you.
What the f?
Did he ever go on the or did he ever keep talking about?
He doesn't like my gap, so.
The what?
Did he ever keep talking to girls for gays?
Probably not.
No.
Probably not.
I wanted to touch on when you guys said equality, because I think that's an interesting word to use.
And I want to preface this by saying, I believe in we have the same rights under the eyes of God in America, and I will always fight for that.
But I don't think men and women are equal.
I don't think you can compare men and women.
I think they're intrinsically different.
And so that's my problem with feminism.
While they degrade men, they also are trying to make women more like men.
And women are special and unique in our own ways, and femininity is special.
And I think that there's a lot of things that women should aim for that's different than men.
And I think we should embrace that we're unique and different.
And I think a lot of feminism has brought out the worst qualities of men and are trying to make women follow those qualities, especially when it comes to hookup culture.
But how do you feel about like the alpha male culture, like the new culture with like Andrew Tay and all of them?
I think that's a complete like rebellion to feminism that you're producing kind of this hyper masculine culture.
And there's some parts that, you know, I agree.
We need more masculinity in the U.S.
I think men have been degraded in this country and I think they've been torn down and I think they're told that masculinity is toxic.
Masculinity is not toxic.
Masculinity is the most important thing to make a country.
But there is toxic masculinity traits.
There's bad traits that men have that are not good, but I think women enable that.
When we have a culture where you sleep around with guys, you enable toxic masculinity.
You enable guys to take advantage of your body and use you as like a credit card for sex rather than making that man work for you.
So I think it's like what I find funny is that feminism brings out that so-called toxic masculinity.
And we allow like the quote-unquote, I hate using this word, but like really the patriarchy to take advantage of us and use our bodies instead of work for us, build a family with us and treat us with respect and dignity.
I can hear and understand what you're saying completely, but I also think it's important while acknowledging the pitfalls of feminism in areas where it may be, you know, harmful and degrade men to also recognize where feminism has been necessary and fundamental for women's survival and safety.
Sure in 1950s.
No far.
Look at violence rates.
Like if you look at violence rates, you know, majority of crimes, violent crimes are commit by men.
Like that's a true statistic.
And when we're thinking about violence, for example, you know, that is, there's no liberty there.
There's no freedom.
If somebody's threatening your life, then, and obviously women commit violent crimes too, but you know, if we're looking at the statistics, men do commit more violent crimes than women.
And so when somebody is having a violent crime being committed against them, there is no liberty there.
There is no freedom.
And if we look at the roots of even marriage, men were permitted to beat their wives.
So it is still part of our history.
And feminism.
But those are laws that have been overturned.
And I'll say this: the whole hookup culture allows women to become victims of sexual violence and abuse.
It's not safe for a woman to meet a man at a bar and go home with him.
Someone she doesn't know, someone her friends don't know.
You put yourself in a very, very risky situation doing that.
But instead, feminism, instead of talking about that, how that is a huge cause of sexual violence, they're encouraging women to do that.
They're saying, go be like a man, go have sex with a random guy.
And women, just biologically, we have more implications when we have sex with a guy.
We could become pregnant.
We put ourselves at risk for sexual abuse and violence.
And like we talked about earlier, women become more attached to men.
So I think it actually leads a lot of women to depression when they're engaging in this meaningless hookup culture.
I don't think the feminism or feminist is, oh, them saying, oh, go fuck everybody.
And women, that's what it is.
But that's a sexual revolution.
It was, you know, women should be like men.
Maybe that's the radical.
But women are shamed for their bodies, which if women go to meet men at a bar or they go on a walk in their neighborhood in the morning, they're still vulnerable to being, you know, violently attacked.
No, no, no.
Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
So just because you feel more vulnerable doesn't actually mean you are.
But walking on a street, you're way less likely to be harmed by a violent crime than going home with a man from a bar that you don't know and going to his bedroom.
And you couldn't.
We're definitely not saying, oh, go do that.
That's not.
Well, I think that's part of the sexual revolution.
It's encouraging women to do what they want with their bodies.
And as long as it's two consenting individuals, there's nothing wrong with that.
And I think there's something completely wrong with using sex like a transactional.
No, yeah, I agree.
I think you should only be having sex with someone that you fully know you want to maybe be with or commit to.
I'm not saying to just go have sex with anybody.
I don't do that.
I don't have sex on the first day with anybody or even the second or third.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like or four.
Which I think is good.
But that's a sexual revolution.
Yeah.
But sex is also a power women have that has been stripped from them for generations.
But how is it empowering to have sex with a guy that uses your body and then discards you like you're nothing?
My, well, that might not be empowering to you and maybe like the way that you're wording, but to some women, having casual sex might be empowering to them.
And who am I to say that it's not if it maybe has been fundamental on their life journey, if it's taught them about what they want in relationships?
Like who are we to say and discard her experiences?
I mean, I think we are to say that that's a bad cultural trend that doesn't lead women towards success, happiness.
I think it leads women towards depression.
I already mentioned I think it puts women at risky situations.
And I think it enables toxic masculinity, quote unquote, and the patriarchy.
You're allowing men to just use your body.
Yeah.
But like I would say we shame women and say, oh, like you're a slut or I'm not saying that, but like you're doing that, like it's bad.
But then men, it's like they say, oh, like go have 20 women, go do this, that.
And then half the time they won't even be wearing protection.
And then they're the ones who are giving the STDs.
I completely disagree with men being promiscuous as well.
But there is just the reality that women can fall pregnant.
Men can't.
There's a way bigger risk as a woman.
You are in, biologically, we're smaller than men.
We're at a risk when we engage in casual sex that men don't have that same risk.
And I completely disagree with men being promiscuous as well.
But I think for women, it's even more important we protect our own bodies.
But I think we should be shaming men as well for doing that.
Yeah, I totally agree.
And I would shame any guy that goes out and say we're shaming women for doing that.
It's like we should be shaming men as well.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's like people are hyping men up to do this.
But if a woman is with a guy or like how you're in high school or whatever, right?
And then a girl gets caught like with a guy or something, everyone's like, ew, she's a whore, da-da-da-da.
But then the guy doesn't, everyone's praising him.
I think we should encourage a culture where people, there's a sacred element to sex between two people who love each other and are committed to each other.
And like I said, I don't think we should degrade that.
And I agree with you that I don't think we should be encouraging anybody to be promiscuous, men or women.
But there's a certain risk that women incur that's more than men, which is why I think throughout history, there's more of a societal state.
I mean, there's still a risk for men with getting STDs and half the time they aren't used.
Exactly.
And there's risks for men where if you're in a room alone with a woman you don't know and she claims that you raped her, bro.
And he may have not, but that's also a risk that men incur as well.
And vice versa.
Yeah, the whole situation I just think is so toxic and horrible for our society.
It is.
And also, if you think about it, then the man will have a kid with a woman that he doesn't know and then leaves.
And then now that baby is growing up with mental issues, baby daddy issues, trauma, which is what makes all of this problem.
Exactly.
It's a big problem.
Like what I kind of have dabbled into in my little feminist ways has been the abortion industrial complex and how that's really disproportionately affected women because basically we are telling men that and black women specifically.
Yeah, exactly.
That you can just fuck me.
It does not matter.
Like, because I can go tomorrow and get an abortion.
And that, not, I'm not saying that I disagree with abortion necessarily, but I'm saying that it's something to think about.
That we are allowing men to just say, yeah, no, it's cool.
Like, I'll just go get it fixed.
And then you're left with the emotional trauma and the pain from having that abortion.
They have some validation to do that more than that.
They don't have to go keep doing it and do that.
The emotional trauma, I'm very pro-life because I believe it's such a horrible thing for a woman to kill her own child.
I think it's against nature.
I think it's against every single thing inside of a woman.
And so that's why it's so important that sex is sacred because there are those implications that men do not have.
And as women, we should be holding men to a higher standard instead of lowering ourselves to theirs.
Yeah.
We should be leading on that.
But it's also important to acknowledge where is the man's responsibility.
And I think that's what when we're talking about feminism, as I'll be, of course, can agree with you that there are like, you know, ways that people can take it to an extreme that's harmful for men.
You have to acknowledge the flip side and acknowledge where are men not showing up in that regard and not taking care of women in that regard.
Like, we are both the wounder and the wounded.
I think AP Check.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I think women have allowed men to take advantage of us through feminism.
And I think it's, like I said, it's brought out the worst of men.
Yeah, because it's put under this guise of like, oh, I'm empowered because I can make the decision to go and do this.
But are you really empowered if he's just coming in you and then saying bye-bye?
Using your bar.
Yeah, and just using your body.
I don't know if that's a feminism, feminist, but it's also a product of feminism.
It's that sexual revolution.
Yeah, I don't think I know much about it.
Women should be like men.
Yes.
And men throughout history have slept around.
I figured that the sexual revolution was like a popularization.
Women throughout history have slept around.
More than that, it's all over TV.
It happened in the 60s and then it's happening now too as well, I would argue.
I guess it's like sex is like media.
That's what I always say.
Women, like we talked about earlier, women have different experiences with sex than men do.
And like I said, we should bring men to that same level and it should be a sacred bond.
I agree.
Okay.
Point proven.
I thought you guys wanted to talk more about abortion or some shit.
We can talk a little bit more.
I mean, I think, I mean, now we're getting political.
I mean, like, regardless of like, anyone's not going to be able to do that.
It's not right as anyone to stop it.
Yeah.
Personally, I feel like a lot of the mental issues and things that go on in society nowadays stem from how you're raised.
And if you're not raised, like you said, like with a two-parent household, right?
Which is a man is just having sex with any girl, right?
And then coming in 10 girls or whatever, getting them pregnant and then not being there for them and not being a good dad, those kids are going to grow up without a dad or even without a mom.
Of course that happens.
But it's mainly the man that the breakdown of the nuclear family has been one of the worst things for America.
Yeah.
Which is why men should.
But also, I think it's, you know, what?
Wear condoms.
I feel like a lot of men don't wear condoms.
Yeah, and that's because all of the times literally like this.
Stop $100.
Okay.
Men being promiscuous is one of the few double standards we get.
It is insanely harder for men to get laid than women.
Men's privilege to the world is to die for their country while women get to continue hot girls summer.
Yeah, I mean, I think the double standard on that front is justified, frankly.
I don't think men ought to be promiscuous, but I understand, for example, why it's impressive for a guy to sleep with a lot of women, and women are typically looked down upon or shamed if they sleep with a lot of men.
And that just comes down to the difficulty with which both men and women can get laid.
It's super, women have getting laid and honestly dating on easy mode compared to men.
Any girl, like girls can get laid super easy, whereas like for most guys, average guy, it's difficult to get laid.
Yeah, it's not like men's are the gatekeeper of sex.
Yeah, women are the gatekeepers of sex.
But also, I think it's like you have to look at these situations and how unique they are.
Like somebody, for example, like a girl in high school at a party and somebody, you know, she thinks she's drinking something and somebody pushes her.
What are you talking about here?
I'm just saying that like every situation is different.
And so to say like one person is completely responsible.
Wait.
Like you're saying that women are the gatekeepers, right?
This is what you were talking about.
And I was just coming back to what she was saying kind of about how like if we're just talking about abortion in general, that every situation is really unique.
That's what I was saying.
Okay, but we can come back to the abortion thing, but what I'm talking about here is the double standard between men and women when it comes to the ease with which both of the sexes can get late or get laid.
But that shouldn't be the goal to just get laid.
That's where the whole culture is wrong.
It should be to find the person that you love and build a relationship.
Yeah, but I don't think the cat is out of the bag.
But I think we can strive to improve our culture and create more of a culture that centers itself in building relationships with people and not having transactional sex.
I agree with you.
Idealistically, it would be great if we can have a return to more traditional values.
However, I think conservatives, generally speaking, are losing the culture war.
We don't have like conservative.
Obviously.
Conservatives don't have control of the media.
They don't have control of academia.
Corporations.
They don't have control of major mainstream news outlets.
Most people who are journalists who are reporting on the news tend to be, excuse me, tend to be left-leaning.
So you look at popular culture, you look at music, you look at movies, you look at the Hollywood, the entertainment industry.
It's dominated by people who are more liberal.
Yeah, I mean, every corporation, you see Target putting up pride things.
corporation is trying to market towards yeah liberals so I I think like but we can't just give up Sure.
But idealistically, it would be wonderful if we returned to traditional values.
because of feminism because of the of birth control um it's just changed the dynamics between men and women um so i mean that's why i don't think we're gonna unwind So it's like we now have to adapt to the new rule set.
I don't think that we should do that at all.
I think, like, for example, I run a woman's culture and fashion hygiene, and our whole job is that we're bringing conservative and Christian values into the mainstream and, you know, talking to women about that there are other choices outside of this like radical feminism that will make your life happier.
And I think as conservatives, older conservatives made the mistake of letting the culture just go so far left and you know giving away everything.
And I think you're now seeing an uprising of people who are fighting back.
I mean, like, look at the Bud Light situation.
There are points that now we're finally putting on the board and we can't just like throw in the towel and be like, you know, I have a daughter and I want to create a better world for her.
And so I think it's like my duty before I leave the planet to create a better world and not just throw in the towel.
No, and I agree with you there.
I just, it is, I suppose, a bit idealistic insofar as, and especially related to his super chat where he's talking about why the double standard is justified.
So in a society where hookup culture is the norm, where people have are sleeping with multiple people, where people are just hooking up.
And if we're going to have a conversation of, well, it's unfair for men to be praised for sleeping with a lot of women, whereas women are shamed for sleeping with a lot of men.
Well, first off, the world is unfair.
Society is unfair.
There's plenty of double standards that benefit women that don't benefit men.
So this is one of the very few double standards that benefits men when it comes to intersexual dynamics.
So, yeah.
But I don't think that also, like, men who are kind of that, like, oh, I'm sleeping around, then they can't expect the woman that they marry.
And I think a lot of men want a woman that hasn't been sleeping around.
And I think that's like a common thing that men want, but then men shouldn't be partaking in that culture as well.
Exactly.
So are you talking about a guy who has, for example, a high body count?
He should not desire in a partner a woman with a low body count because it would be hypocritical, so to speak.
Yeah, and I mean, there are situations where that probably folds out, but I think in general, women are the gatekeepers of sex.
So, the reason why men are allowed to get these high body counts for the most part is because women are giving into that culture.
So, as women, we can pull back and be like, no, we're not going to have this sleep around feminism culture that's so destructive to us and is like honestly disrespectful to us and is like not empowering to us.
Instead, we should be empowered and come back and you know, fight for a better culture with men.
Yeah, it just cheapens us, quite honestly.
Exactly.
That's sad.
Well, I mean, also when it comes to the double standard, too, very few men, a small percentage of men, can have high body counts, whereas almost any single woman could be promiscuous.
Very few men can be truly promiscuous.
So, I mean, there's another double standard there.
Women have the capability of being more women have the option of being promiscuous than do men.
You look at an average guy, he can't be promiscuous.
You can't poll every night.
Any girl can be promiscuous.
I mean, with dating ads nowadays, there's somebody out there that's gonna-not with what he just said.
If women are only swiping on 10% of the dating pool, then I think it's gonna be pretty hard.
You might but I think there's always somebody or a woman that may say yes to them, or they could even pay for it.
Or like, you know what I mean?
They can get it somehow.
Women are gonna try to get it.
Most average men, they're not going on dates.
Like, they're not easily able to secure dates.
They're not easily able to secure the easy, but they still can.
Like, I don't think they're like not at all.
A lot of guys.
There's a lot of women that want to be in relationships, and maybe they don't have the confidence, or they're maybe going for women that are not in their league.
And also, I think this idea of like how like shaming women, like, well, the world is unfair, so we should just accept like some men are going to be shamed for things and women are going to be shamed for things.
I think we should also ask, like, where has shaming women for sex, for example, gotten us?
Because it's existed for a long time, and it's also contributed to getting us to where we are.
And it's contributed to this, you know, like you said, how this new alpha male culture is, this rebellion against feminism.
Well, what is feminism the rebellion against?
And why is there that anger?
And why was there that desire?
You know, and I think it's important to ask that question too.
Well, I feel like there was real civil rights measures that needed to be achieved in the early 1900s, but I think it's been pushed too far.
And I think it was a movement that spiraled and picked up very bad values along the way that they've peddled to women, as I've explained earlier in the podcast, that have been very detrimental to women.
And, you know, I also wanted to go off of like, if you're a guy or a girl and you like having sex, there's something to be said about getting in a relationship where you're committed to each other and you love each other.
You'll have way more sex in sleeping around and better.
Yeah, obviously.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why people don't know that.
I think just pain, you know, like the sexual revolution promotes like promiscuity.
Promiscuity promotes heartbreak because people get sensitive when you share your body with someone and then, you know, it just becomes a tabby and it's all over TV.
It's all over market media.
It's like, oh, how many bitches did you get with bro?
Like.
I think feminism has contributed to how toxic and horrible our dating culture is.
And it's a real problem.
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Thank you, man.
My last chat for tonight.
Thank you, Brian, and the panel.
Just want to say, in regards to my chat, I'm fine with many answers to how much I want to provide to the home.
Anything from zero to 50 is acceptable, but not over.
Thank you, men.
What was your last chat?
It was.
Oh, you're saying I pay for the first few dates.
Okay, I see, I see.
Oh, okay.
I want to provide to the home anything from zero to 50 is acceptable.
For the first date, you were saying anything from zero to 50 is acceptable, but you would not go over $50 for a first date.
Got it.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
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All right, cool.
I think we were talking a little bit about feminism.
So you guys feminist, right?
What if I told you that feminism is not actually about equality?
Agree, disagree.
About awareness?
Awareness.
Wait, did Madison dip?
No, I think she went to the bathroom, maybe.
But I would like to hear what you think feminism is or what you're...
Because I took my definition straight from the dictionary.
At least from what I remember, it could have changed now.
They like to change definitions now.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think, I mean, the most charitable definition that I could give feminism is it's not, again, this is the most charitable definition I give it.
It's not an equality movement.
It's a woman's advocacy movement.
And there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy, but to try to paint feminism as seeking true equality.
See, feminists don't fight for equality if said equality does not come at the benefit of women.
If there is no benefit to be reaped by a form of equality, feminists will not fight for it.
Therefore, it is not a true equality movement.
Because if there was a form of equality that would in some conceivable way come to the detriment of women, but equalize the genders, for example, military conscription, feminists will not fight for it.
Even if you're granted equality, for example, if you equalized military conscription to the point where both men and women had to register for the selective service, had to, excuse me, if they both had to be conscripted in wartime, that would be equality.
But it's the case in today, women were able to secure the vote without having the corresponding responsibility of being conscripted into war.
So, and even to this day, women are not subject to military conscription in the US and the vast majority of Western countries where we have feminist movements and where we otherwise have equality between the sexes.
So, I mean, from my definition of feminism, like I said, the belief that men and women are equal.
And I kind of take like your version of it.
I know you're not a feminist, but like we are equal in value.
We are not equal in, like, we're just not equal.
Like, you can, we can't, it's comparing apples to oranges.
two completely different things.
So that's kind of where I see it.
And I don't know, it's taken since I've kind of switched political leanings, it's taken me a while to kind of like reclaim the term feminist because like I do just believe in that.
Like we are equal in value.
And I think sure that's like important.
And it goes into a whole bunch of other different definitions.
I guess everybody interprets it differently.
But like that's my belief of like what true feminism is.
I think another aspect of feminism that really bothers me is this obsessive culture of making women go into work and encouraging women to work, which I'm a huge fan of.
Like I love a, you know, I think we're all Americans and we should pursue our dreams in our career, but not at the expense of your family.
And so they're leading women into this corporate life that's so unfulfilling and it's just like honestly buying into this whole capitalist system where you're just sitting at your desk all day and you leave behind no legacy and you have no family and there's no fulfillment.
And as someone who works and also has a daughter, I will tell you every day of the week, every second of the day, being a mom is way more fulfilling and important to me than whatever career is happening.
And that doesn't say that you can't be passionate about your career, but I think there is no focus on that with women.
Instead, it's go into the corporate machine, work all day, freeze your eggs, we'll pay for your abortion.
And I think that's so toxic and detrimental to women.
I think that I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but we also have to always acknowledge that that's a luxury that so many women don't have.
And so like in this time where a lot of women do need to work and they don't have the luxury of, you know, getting to spend that time like with their children in that way, that feminism, there's aspects of feminism that do benefit women.
Just like there's aspects of feminism that might hurt women and hurt men, the same way there's aspects of masculinity in this modern movement that are positive.
But there's also aspects that hurt men and hurt women.
And I think it's on both sides.
It's not like who's to blame.
Is feminism to blame?
Is masculinity to blame?
But I think there's issues on both sides.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's like a one size fits all.
Oh my gosh, feminism is the only thing that's ever gone wrong.
I think it's the breakdown of traditional gender roles in the family.
I think there's a reason why that's existed throughout history and has been successful.
And I think there's this attitude with people nowadays where they think that everyone that came before us is stupid and we're going to create this whole new world.
And I think we can learn from people of the past and their successes and like what created happiness and what created fulfillment.
And like I said, my whole thing is I think feminism is very counterproductive to women.
And like even going into a whole nother aspect of this, they rare, like when I see actual civil rights deterioration for women, which is what feminism should stand up for, like the transgender movement that now is allowing men to basically become woman just because they like stereotypically feminine things, putting on dresses and heels and now they're invading our sports teams, our locker rooms.
Like these are civil rights that we've fought for and now are being eroded by men.
And then I see, rarely see feminists standing up against that.
And like men are taking our championships, our titles, they're competing in our sports.
And like Title IX, we fought really hard.
Like feminists fought hard for that.
Well, like, to be real, that's so like, Jesus Christ.
I feel like that's, how does that have anything to do with feminism?
When we come to feminism, it's just kind of about going to the places where like women are kind of considered not equal to men, where women should be equal to men.
Like, I feel like it was all about wages.
And then people drag it.
And then it was about wages.
It was about wages.
And then it kind of got dragged into getting bigger about what gender roles.
But it was, feminism was, of course, in the name created to protect women.
But then like to go through it and say that men are just choosing.
I mean, like, you don't understand, like, the chemical makeup of people and their hormones or their hormone imbalances.
And, like, what happens in the body is so organic.
Like, you can't tell me that there's enough science to prove that that's just so confused.
And an XX chromosome is female and XY is male.
Yeah.
But, like, who cares?
Like, every time we're in the middle of the female men are coming in and taking away civil rights achievements that we are in.
Man, coming into my prisons, raping women in prison.
Men aren't coming into the world.
Yes, they are.
They are.
Yes, they want to become our championship.
Look into Washington State prisons.
I'm saying my husband and a man just took that away from them.
I'm so sorry.
I keep saying the R word.
Are you saying?
I like to say that.
I'll let you talk, but I cannot condone grape.
Like, just saying that men are coming into our life as women when transgender women experience so much abuse.
All right, we're not, we're going to talk about that.
As well as women.
I don't know about that.
But basically, what you're saying is that men are better women than women.
Is what you're saying?
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
My whole thing is that feminism is not protecting women in this day and age.
And the actual erosion of our civil rights that I'm seeing unfolding through the transgender movement, there's very few feminists that stand up.
Patriarchy wins again.
Yeah, exactly.
I just find the entire movement overall extremely counterproductive for women and very toxic.
But do you think that that means that we just have to, we can't, you can't just like eliminate the idea that like there is that movement going on for like people who are transgender to do things like sports?
Like we can't deny that that's happening.
So if it's, I feel like it can't just be that we either accept that or we don't.
But what about, you know, finding solutions that everybody can agree with?
Do you think that that's possible?
That's supportive of everybody, that everyone would be comfortable with?
I have extreme compassion and empathy for people who struggle with gender dysphoria and that they do not like the bodies that they're in.
I have extreme empathy and compassion for that.
But that just because someone feels that way does not mean it's true.
If an anorexic person is telling you that they hate their body, they look in the mirror every day and they're like, I'm fat, I'm fat.
A doctor does not prescribe them diet pills.
It's the same way.
We should be teaching people that the body we're born in is the right body.
God does not make mistakes.
You have a beautiful body and you should embrace that and you should love yourself for who you are.
And regardless, you can't biologically and physically transition into a different gender.
And so, like I said, I have extremely.
Jesus really cares about whether or not you're transitioning.
Did Jesus, is there one time in the Bible where Jesus died?
Many times he made them men and woman.
Where did Jesus say that?
Jesus came to forgive and spread love for society.
And died for our sins to live in his honor.
Jesus died for our sins for so much.
There's nowhere in the heavens where Jesus is dating.
Yeah, what happened?
Jesus warned us about being too religious.
So going through and saying man and women.
It's not a religious.
It's not even a biological reality.
It's women are born with XX chromosomes because they have children, the bare pregnancy for the most part.
And men are born with XY chromosomes.
And they have complete different bone density, body structure.
They have different sexual reproductive parts.
It's reality.
And so by leading people down this false road that they can actually change their gender when it's not physically or biologically impossible, I think is cruel and medical malpractice.
I can't believe that.
Oh my God.
I can say that.
Oh my God.
Okay.
You know, a man maybe feeling feminine or feminine energy and them dressing up or whatever, that's fine.
But I could say I do agree with you on the part where the medical part, because a man taking estrogen is like, so, just weakens their body and is really bad for them at the end of the day.
And I don't, I personally, I don't know too much about it, so I can't say, but I would say medically is not really a matter of men.
I'm not even saying that.
At the end of the day, most transgenders that transition fully, like their bottom part, do commit suicide.
They know how introduced statistics are.
You are statistically more likely after you transition.
I'm true.
That's why I'm like, that's why I think the gender roles are fucking bullshit.
If anything, it's about gender roles.
Like, what about okay?
So, me being about a baby woman, okay, whatever.
Everything else about women is a gender.
Well, transgender.
It is literally gender.
And it's like, if you're going to sit here and talk about people who genuinely who persuade people who genuinely struggle more than other people.
That is what they're doing.
Because that's how their emotions feel.
This is what's going on.
I'm not trying to scream at you, but it's just like, it just feels stupid to me to sit here and be like, okay, you're mutilating your body.
You can be a transgender woman and not touch your freaking gender.
I don't care.
Like, my pussy's a dick.
I can say whatever the fuck.
I can believe and have whatever the fuck I want.
It's their words.
That's delusion.
What's ironic?
What's wrong with it about transgenderism is not like my pussy's a dick, but like my exact gender roles and whatever gender that that associated with.
Liberals are fighting against.
So the whole thing is: if a man likes stereotypically feminine things, then he becomes a woman.
That is cementing gender roles and saying, like, example, when I was little, I liked traditionally masculine things.
I liked sports.
I didn't want to wear a skirt.
I wanted to wear shorts.
That didn't make me any less of a woman.
And so that's what I find so regressive about transgenderism: that's cementing archaic and stereotypical gender roles and telling people that they can be whoever they want to be, but doesn't make them less of a man or less of a woman.
But I think that's why you brought God.
It matters because they're coming in, like I said, people are dying.
And there's very high suicide rates.
But also, I think it's important to acknowledge that you brought God into this conversation.
And I completely respect, and I think a lot of people respect your right to practice your religion, to have your beliefs, but then you also have to respect someone's relationship.
But these are my religious beliefs.
I do have religious beliefs, but it's a rejection of religious beliefs.
No, it's not.
It's a constitution.
It's a rejection of what I believe is biological reality that's existed since the start of humankind.
But then why does it, why, if we're not talking about like how it's coming into like our sports and things like that, I'm saying there's other alternatives for compromise that I believe are possible.
Maybe we haven't found them yet, but ways that we can all coexist peacefully.
Agreed.
And so, but to deny the experiences of people with gender dysphoria, I think.
I don't think she's denying anybody's experience.
I think that she is just merely saying that this is a mental illness and to treat it as anything other than that is a disservice to those people.
Yes, it's because you are telling them a delusion.
You're filling into a delusion.
And I know that there are some people who do experience gender dysphoria who do walk lighter with women after medical at having on this social transition.
But I think that for the majority of it, if we look at the statistics and the only long-term study done, it has done.
Can you pull up S-Fond really quick?
Can you pull up S-Fond?
It's one of the Instagram tabs.
Okay, guys, would you date this man?
Don't show the follower count.
I literally.
Okay, so this is S-Fan.
He's a classic Chad World of Warcraft gamer.
Keep scrolling down.
Yeah.
He's a girlfriend, no?
No, I don't think so.
He's a really, he's a cool guy.
He's got, look at his flow.
He's got really good flow and he's a paladin.
He plays a ret paladin, which, you know, like, not the best DPS, but like he runs his guild.
So like, he's going to get Thunder Fury, you know, whatever.
But right now he's playing hardcore.
And he's a sweetheart.
He's like a total sweetheart.
So, yeah, you know.
Seems like a fun guy.
Is he in the chat right now?
Probably not.
But yeah, this is S-Fond, and he's just like a fucking Chad Rhett paladin, like a pumper paladin.
He's still at the bottom of the bottom.
He's posting like random women, though.
Like, what about that?
Can I like that?
So, like, would you guys date him or what?
Personally, hold on, hold on, let's start with you.
Go ahead.
I would have to meet him in person, get to know who he is as a person.
I can't, like, look at a picture of someone and know a decision like that.
Personally, not really my type.
Okay.
Would you date him?
As long as he's not a prejudice.
Sure.
Wait, I'm so confused.
I like, I can't take the redirect from that conversation.
I just have to make a statement and say, you guys aren't even entitled to that opinion.
Yes, we are.
Yes, we are.
I think we are entitled to say that.
You guys are just like, wow.
It's just sad to me that there are people who can think that way and feel that way.
And I know that you think that it's a mental disorder, but people are like transgender people.
There's so much science on like.
Just answer the question.
Would you date S-Fans?
No, I would not.
I don't know him.
He looked like a nice guy.
I party with him.
Please just let me stand up for transgender people.
No, we're redirecting the conversation.
So, would you date him?
What's up?
I just think it's wrong.
Like, to like.
I mean, like, I don't know him.
I don't fucking care at this point.
At the end of the day, that conversation, like, everyone's going to have their own opinion.
We're not going to agree.
You know what I mean?
Like, no one's going to ever agree.
We're not going to get any.
I want you to know that, like, I really don't think that they're some disgusting, like, it's like wrong.
No, shut up.
I've redirected the conversation.
Answer the question.
I just said, I don't know him.
If he's sweet, sure.
But, like, why can't I sit here and talk about this conversation?
I mean, if you're talking about it, because I've chosen to redirect the conversation.
You can either accept that or you can leave.
Your choice.
Yeah, for people out there who are listening to this, I'm literally.
Get out.
I'm out.
And you got to say get out to me, but like people are fucked up.
Peace out.
Shut up.
I'm going to get up too, but thank you for having me.
Okay.
You can leave it.
It's nice meeting you.
Nah, you can't stay here.
You got to get out.
You got to get out.
We drove together.
Okay.
Make it on.
Is the whole squad leaving or what?
We got a whole squad.
Make it a hat trick then.
I'm sorry for not taking that, but I have to do that for like family members of mine.
And I'm not actually not.
I'm not sorry.
And God bless you.
Okay, can you just leave?
Yeah, I'm out of here.
Okay.
We drove together, so I mean, I guess I have to leave too.
Sweet.
So yep.
It was nice meeting you.
Nice meeting you.
Nice meeting you.
Drive safe.
You say?
Can you leave?
Yeah.
You guys gotta go.
All right.
Hat trick.
Let's go.
Three down.
Can we like, can we like?
No, we're just gonna.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Was that an appropriate kick, chat?
I don't know.
I mean, you did say you were gonna redirect the conversation.
I read it.
I read it in the pre-show.
Yeah, I mean, I wanted to move away from that conversation.
Like, if she wants to try to bully the conversation back there.
Yeah, it's probably a little TOS.
All right.
Hat trick time.
Okay.
So, S-Fans.
S-Fans?
Wait, did I think that he was cute?
Is that what you're asking me?
Yeah, like, would you date him?
If you weren't in the middle of the day, I wouldn't date him, I'll be honest, but actually, okay, I can't say that.
I haven't met him in person.
I'm not going to be that shallow.
Just based on fiction.
I kind of think he's your type, Shania.
No, she was saying she was over here.
She was dating.
Really?
You would go and date with him.
Okay.
He should reach out.
No, but he looks nice.
Like, he looks like he's somebody that I would, if I had met in person and they asked me out on a date and he is what I'm thinking he's going to be, I would enjoy that date.
You know, I don't know if I would go on a second, but I would enjoy the first date.
And I would split it.
Split the bill.
We're coming full circle.
What about you, Jake?
Would you go on a date with him?
I'm not kidding.
And I'm married.
Not even just a tickle.
I'm married, so that's the end.
Madison?
If I do not have a boyfriend, still no.
Sorry, but you look fun.
I would definitely be open to being friends with you.
Just not my type.
Okay, that's SFAN for you.
Okay, just a couple things here, guys.
I think we're going to wrap up the show here pretty soon.
We are going to do an after-show.
Madison is going to host the after-show.
And yeah, so what we're going to do now is, hold on just a sec, guys.
Let me see if we have any.
We have Dre Moore here.
If you can just hide that for a sec, Eric, thank you.
Dre Moore, you women that have lost your minds, you need to focus on raising family.
Kids will make you happier than working and making money.
You could stay at home and do an online business, focus on family, and lock down the high-value man.
Trust me, infinitely happier.
Hey, Dray Moore, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
All right.
We have, who do we have here?
Selena.
She says very appropriate kickout.
If they can't respect the rules or podcasts, they can go.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, I felt really bad.
I kept engaging with her.
I probably should have kicked you too, probably.
Rams, Canadian, thing for the 28.
Anyone?
Oh, wait.
Oh, sorry.
Okay.
We have.
Okay, that's it for the super chats.
I just want to say one thing.
So I'm probably after the next two shows next week.
I'm going to at least take one week off.
It's been, actually, let's probably just keep it over here.
Been way too stressed out.
It's impacting the quality of the show.
I want to apologize to Eric because I kind of snapped at him earlier when that window popped up.
I've been like obscenely stressed out these past couple of weeks.
There's a lot going on behind the scenes that you don't really see.
You know, you see these couple hour streams, but I work every single day.
I'm working 12 hours a day to make the show happen.
We had 12 flakes today.
That's a fucking record.
I've already been stressed out enough as it is because I don't know if you guys know we had major technical issues last stream.
I was in here until 1 a.m. yesterday fixing the computer.
And that was a major headache.
The new computer I paid for, I got it working, but I basically had to do factor reset, basically, had to get everything set up again.
And then we just last minute had nearly the entire panel flake.
So I had to scramble.
And it's like the last thing I want to do on a show day instead of focusing on doing preparation and scramble to get replacements.
So thank you to those of you who I think we had to, well, in any case, yeah, it's just, it was a lackluster panel.
And yeah.
So, yeah, sorry for that.
And it's just been stressful.
Like, there's been a lot of, bro, we're under attack right now.
Like Someone came on the podcast two shows ago with the Destiny stream.
Well, basically, there's just been a shit ton of drama behind the scenes.
What's it called?
The podcast has been targeted.
We're fucking getting like death threats and shit.
My personal thing, and during the segment in question, I was silent during when the people were talking about that situation.
And apparently, people took that as a cosign because I was silent that I agreed with the statements that were made.
But let me emphatically say now that I disavow the stance that was taken.
That's not my stance, but people seem, at least me personally, the way I've always lived my life is I'm responsible for the words that come out of my mouth.
I'm not responsible for what other people say, especially other guests on my podcast.
I only know how to be responsible for me because I believe people have responsibility on an individual level.
However, some people are saying, well, because you're on that side of the table, then, look, in any case, I've been super stressed out, so sorry to Eric.
And it's just, you know, how it is with the flakes, man.
Like, it just, it's, it's a nightmare.
So, um, uh, yeah, I think I don't know where I'm going with this.
Oh, yeah, like, there's been some bullshit going on, like, every single week for the past couple weeks.
We had the whole drama with the chick who nip slip.
She's like threatening to fucking sue us because we, you know, whatever.
Um, so, bro, there's a lot of shit going on behind the scenes.
Um, and uh, just been super stressed out.
So, okay, um, and uh, what else?
What else, bro?
We got hit pieces from fucking Moist Critical, Obam Preach, all that shit.
Uh, a lot of shit going on behind the scenes.
So, uh, yeah, um, anyways, that's that was rather long-winded, but um, yeah, uh, final thoughts from it.
We are gonna do an after-hour show.
Madison's gonna host it.
Um, so if you want, you can stick around after the end of the proper show.
Um, so any final thoughts, anybody?
Thank you for having us on.
Yeah, thank you for coming.
Yeah, thank you.
This was really fun.
A little heated at the end.
I feel like she hasn't really talked, and everyone loves her.
So I like how they call you Shania Twain.
I hate it.
I love Shania Twain.
No.
No, no.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm kind of the type of person that doesn't talk unless spoken to, and there was very dominant speakers tonight.
So thank you for having me.
I love watching.
Cool.
Love being in the mix.
Okay, guys.
All right.
Let's see here.
I think I hit, yeah, I hit on everything.
Okay, so let's see what we're going to do here.
Okay, guys, so we are going to do a pre-show, or sorry, an after-hour show.
We're going to dim the lights.
And yeah, but last call, guys, hit the like button on your way out if you're not going to stick around for the after-hour show.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show.
It really means the world.
Thank you to the panel that made it to the end.
Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever.
We will be live again with our normal show Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
We will, if those of you who are taking off, we'll see you next time.
Good night, guys.
And we're gonna lower the soup the TTS trigger for the after-hour show and then we're gonna lower the read trigger to Let's lower to 50.
Maybe we'll lower it from there, but for for read we're gonna lower it to 50 and then TTS I'll lower to or 49.99 and TTS I'll lower to 99.99.
So yeah word word word word Shania do you want to after okay do you want to stick around for the after hours oh you have to leave you have to leave yeah yeah okay so at least it's good time yeah yeah okay cool maybe all right see you guys Eric can you uh put the no no no no don't stop don't stop don't stop recording or now no don't don't stop anything
And could you, what's it called?
Could you put the lights on dim?
There we go.
Welcome to the after hour show here.
Just fix this really quick.
You have to drive on too.
You didn't leave, what's that?
Oh wait, thank you guys so much.
Yeah, thank you for coming.
You have so much fun.
Thanks for coming.
Appreciate it on this side I don't know what's happening.
I'm kind of excited.
It's the after hours show.
Am I sit right next to me?
Yeah, just sit next to Madison.
Hold on second ever special guest on the after hour hi.
I've never been this close to the camera.
You can really see source family.
Are you usually in that corner?
Minimum donations to read.
You just get leg fuck by that pole.
Uh okay, i'm lowering the tts to uh 99.
I don't know 99.
I feel like we'll see I might lower it.
Lower it more.
Um, hold on just a sec.
You look so good with this lighting, she's like glowing.
Yeah, I mean to stay after hours.
More kidding, all right, that should fix it.
So what do we talk about?
Um, I honestly just well, some people like super chat into the mic.
You gotta do into the mic, okay.
Some people just super chat.
Some people um, sometimes I read the comments and reply to them or whatever.
So it's like a live.
Yeah, it's still live.
On the on the volume thing, like wiring us, my official role on the show is wearing this helmet and posting up.
So now yours is three.
All right, take care of my son.
Yes.
All right, thanks everyone for staying for the after show.
I don't know how many of you are on here, but it's good to see you.
How's everyone doing tonight?
Hi.
i'm just reading the comments do we have to sniff the seats no they always say that we're not sniffing the seats guys unless the normal chats see ya wait brian what normal chat are you talking about
yeah i am sorry all right people are just what's your daily routine like what's your daily routine like uh wow this is like this is insane yeah um daily routine it's very boring I work in a hotel.
Do you work every day?
I work every weekday.
Oh.
And I have to get up at 4:30 every morning.
Every morning.
Oh, no.
I'm not a morning person.
I go to work.
And then I work, and then I go home and I go to bed.
What time are you going home?
I go home at 3.
3 p.m.
Yeah.
Okay, that's not that bad.
So not terrible.
But I live kind of far away from where I work.
Where are you from?
I live in Ventura.
And so when you work in Malibu, it takes me about an hour to drive home.
So then I get home.
And then, like I said, I go to bed because I have to get up at 4:30.
She's a hustler.
She's a hustler.
I heard someone ask, What's her height?
You said you were 6'2?
I'm 6'2.
I'm 5'2 ⁇ .
She's a whole foot.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Can we see that?
She's a whole foot taller than I am.
Okay, to be fair, I am wearing heels, though.
So this isn't my real height.
Oh my goodness.
Do you want to put it?
I'll put it on the center.
This way?
Okay, here we go.
There we go.
I didn't even realize how the height difference earlier when we were standing next to each other.
Are you in heels though, Shania?
I am.
I said that.
Yeah, but still, they're like, yeah.
So, like, Rainwych heels.
Yeah, right now I'm 6'4.
Wow.
All right.
Woohoo!
Anyways.
Anyways.
They're like.
I am reading.
They're just, she's an inch taller than me.
She should have been a runway model.
That's what they were.
That's what we were saying earlier.
Oh, I would love to.
She should model.
If anyone knows any modeling agencies, hit her up.
Please.
Hit her up.
Where did everyone go?
The show, Brian.
I mean, the show.
I just read a comment.
The show ended.
How are Madison and Brian related?
I'm his younger sister.
I thought you guys were twins, to be honest.
Yeah.
We get that a lot.
Yeah, we are twins.
Brian, do you join us?
Do you join us?
Yeah, I'm going to step away for a little bit, but I'll join you guys for a few.
Okay.
Madison, why did you quit modeling?
I never started, but I would love to.
You're actually the look that they're looking for right now, too.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm short, though.
I feel like that does not matter.
Really?
It does not matter anymore.
Maybe I'll.
I'm just trying to find time to get into it, but do it, bro.
Learn your angle.
I really want to.
Especially because it's summer.
I don't have school, so.
Was I toxic this episode?
I feel like this one.
I feel like even more.
I'm going to be straight up with you.
Yes.
Straight up, I was toxic.
Straight up.
like that toxic just like a little here and there i was in the i've been in I was in a bad mood.
It's reasonable why you were, though.
I was about to say righteously so.
12 people flicked.
And then three people got kicked out.
Three people.
Was the kickout justified?
I mean.
People said it was appropriate.
Okay.
I mean, I do understand where she was coming from, but also it's you have to know when to hold your tongue.
So I mean, we tell them before the show, like, if I'm, if I'm like, hey, we're not going to talk about that, let's redirect.
Yeah, I literally read it in the pre-show.
So it was like.
And if a host of a podcast that you are a guest on is saying, hey, shut up, you should probably listen.
I feel like that's the big issue here.
People come on here and have the opportunity to be on this podcast and just tear ahead.
Yeah.
Very entitled people.
Brian, people are asking you to reveal the seven.
Doing great, my dude.
If you need some muscle, I got you.
Sweet Tooth989.
Hey, thank you.
Appreciate it.
Tater, big W for Brian.
Accountability and clearing the air.
Thank you, man, Shania.
Is your type?
S fond.
Is your type?
I really like funny.
So you mentioned when you were describing him that he, you know, was a sweetheart and that you could kind of tell that he had a great attitude and personality in his pictures because not all of them were super serious and all that.
You have to be funny.
Like if I'm going to be with you, you have to.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
But if you're boring, like, what do we talk about?
Well, that's what my mom.
This one?
Yeah.
Oh, we're admiring.
My mom gave me great advice when I started dating, and she said, um, she basically said like, you know, looks go so far.
Hold on.
I have a lot of legs.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I'm like, jamming her legs right now with my chair, and I didn't even know.
Anyways, her advice was always be with someone that you would be okay with on a deserted island.
And it's just you.
It's just good advice.
And of course, you know, your looks are going to fade on a deserted island.
And so if you guys are cool with each other, that's it.
So that's my tap.
If we can be on a deserted island together.
Looks-wise, like, what do you usually go for?
Like, brunettes, blondes?
It really ranges.
I mean, I've kind of said before, I guess I'm kind of pansexual because I really don't care about how you look.
And, you know, gender.
Of course, age you have to care.
You have to.
But yeah, so I mean, in the past, there's been surfer dudes, there's been tatted dudes, there's been blonde chicks, there's been everyone.
Wow, so anyone looking as long as you're funny, man.
And if you're funny.
Can you read this one, Madison?
Is Dolly, Dolly, Dolly really hitting you hard?
Because that's kind of wild.
I don't think you even said anything that crazy, and I haven't heard about it.
He didn't say anything crazy.
She was just being way too crazy.
And we wanted to direct the conversation multiple times and she kept going back to it.
So she got herself mad.
So that's why she had to leave, honestly.
Yeah.
Hey, thank you for the super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Is that who Dolly was?
I think he might be talking about something else.
He might be talking about destiny.
Oh, what happened?
Can we, are we, can we talk about it?
Well, basically, we had a male guest on the show, and I was honestly kind of a lot of times I start getting checked out of the conversation because I'm like paying attention to the chat and I'm like dealing with technical issues.
Especially if there's like other dudes on the panel like Chase, I kind of like lean back a bit and let the other male guests speak, especially when we had such a stacked panel.
I'm like, hey, I'm just going to play kind of moderator host.
I'm going to let other people speak.
MLD said that, and I feel like he basically said that to endure in abusive relationships.
But I want to be charitable, and I feel like at least the kind of the frame of view I'm viewing it as is that he may have very well meant that, but it sounded like he, the way he started what he was saying is like he was making, again, maybe he genuinely means that, but the way I sort of interpreted it, and if he does genuinely mean endure abusive relationships, disavow.
And that's not my position, but I stayed, I just was kind of, I wasn't even saying anything during that entire segment.
I think he was more so just generally speaking.
Hey, people are so quick to end relationships.
People are so quick to, the first sign of, look, if it's physical abuse, emotional abuse, yeah, you should probably get out.
But if there's like, people have arguments in relationships, people have disagreements, sometimes there's lows, sometimes there's highs in relationships.
I think he was trying to make a more general argument, but like, I think he, I don't know.
Look, he said what he said, disavow, but yeah, so basically then it just went super crazy viral.
Like, got like 40 million views on Twitter, a bunch of views on TikTok, a bunch of reaction channels are like, this podcast, by the way, he was a guest on the podcast.
He's not a host.
He's not part of the team.
He's a guest.
They're like, this podcast needs to be canceled.
This podcast is toxic.
And like, I was getting DMs, even though I was silenced the entire time.
I've gotten hundreds of DMs from people, hate DMs, saying, we need to cancel your podcast, blah, blah, blah.
All this stuff.
So, yeah, it got, and then Chase got some flack too.
The editing on, well, whatever.
I don't want to go into it too much, but we have Sugar Brian.
I'm not going to reveal what the 7 is at the moment, but.
On the 77th episode, will you?
This is the 77th episode.
Oh, we are here.
Mr. Cappadocia, what is the pre-show about?
What all goes on before the guests sit down?
That could potentially be interesting to stream.
Maybe we could do it on Twitch.
Just rules.
Yeah.
Rate them, guys.
I give you 6.9, brother.
You look like such a happy, like, genuine person.
Like, I would give you a 7.5.
Okay, so you know how everyone has their physical thing that they, like, the first 39 active?
Mine is Smile.
He has a great profile.
That's why I was like, he got so happy.
That was a great smile.
That's a great profile picture.
You are.
Very fine, sir.
Her DMs.
By the way, for the super chats, let's do just so we don't.
Let's do 10 and up, guys.
We'll read super chats $10 and up.
And then just do it through super chat.
You don't have to do it through Streamlabs.
It's just easier for me to do it through Super Chat.
I mean, if you want to do it through Streamlabs, the TTS triggers down, is reduced.
First girl that was kicked off was Wiggin Outside.
I think she was trying to get kicked.
She was hyper-fixated on her looks and threw on the hat.
Okay.
What?
Shania, can you wear this?
Do you want me to?
Yeah.
You mess up her beautiful hair.
Do you blow out your hair?
I literally just put water in it.
Can you read this, Madison?
Wait, what's the right way to do this?
Yes.
W Hat-Trick, she had like four warnings.
She was loud yelling into the mic the whole time.
Couldn't handle the 50mm Chad Kick Cannons from the legend Brian himself.
And the two others were collateral damage.
Yep.
AW.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Alright, the show was...
Oh, whoops.
Let me hide that.
What is?
Thank you, K-Pip.
The show was, what is that?
Badge heavy.
Like more feminine?
Petition to bring back.
Badge heavy again.
Oh, petition to bring back Chaser.
Yeah, we're going to have them back.
Chase is going to come back.
Just don't.
It would have been good to have Chase tonight, but yeah.
Chase will be back.
We'll have Lila back.
We're going to have Lila debate destiny, I think.
All right.
Did I say 10 and up?
By the way?
Did I say 10 and up or 20 and up?
10, 10.
Okay, we'll do 10 and up.
All right.
Buy yourself some bubble tea.
What's your bubble tea order?
Boba?
Thank you for the Australian.
Appreciate it.
My order is either a passion fruit green tea with extra boba or a milk tea with boba.
Extra.
I don't drink caffeine, so I don't know.
Do they have non-caffeiness?
No, yeah, they have non-caffeine.
Yeah, anything non-caffeinated.
Have you ever had boba?
I have.
Oh, yeah.
I've only been caffeine for a year.
Brian, love the show.
Would love to see Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, or Brett Cooper on the show.
Keep up the good work.
Hey, Sean, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, we're I've been talking to Brett Cooper's producers.
That may be in the works.
Maybe it's falling through.
It's hard to say, but I think I'm on good terms with the Daily Wire people, so I'd love to have Jordan Peterson on, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Candace, and all those people.
Brah, someone trying to make name, let me know.
I'm on disc.
Not sure what that means.
Thank you.
Brian, do you go shooting ski or target?
Shania?
Shania.
Shania.
Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Shania, what would you do in you free when you ain't in the hotel?
AJ Speed.
you man um sorry by the way just the it's hard for me to change the here actually if you It's harder for me to trigger the recent events.
So if you guys want, you can do it through Streamlabs.
I just, I can't.
I can't change the settings right now.
So, oh, fuck.
So if you guys, just submit them through YouTube, if you can, I guess.
TTS still triggers through what's it called? Streamlabs, but we'll just do.
Oh, I didn't answer the question.
Hey, Victor.
No, I don't really, I don't go shooting.
I have BB guns, but yeah.
What do you do in your free time?
Lately, I've just been escaping.
So, like, that sounds weird, but like, I'll just go to a town maybe three hours away and just go to like a bookstore, people watch, and then head home at the end of the day.
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
I just, and I hate.
Yo, I think she mentioned me in an Instagram story.
Let's see.
She's gonna be like, oh, my God.
Wait, wait, Jules?
Oh, Jules was a girl.
Oh.
Yeah.
She was.
She just posted a story.
Okay.
Can you reclick that one?
Here, I'm gonna get up, but do you want to how big of an age gap do you feel is too big?
For example, I'm 33 and a girl I'm sort of seeing is 22, but I feel like a creep sometimes when I'm with her just because of the social stigmas surrounding it.
Honestly, age does not matter.
You love who you love.
I'm not that.
I don't really care about like age, to be honest.
I usually prefer my partners to be older.
So, I mean, if it's making you uncomfortable, obviously stop doing it.
But if you're okay with it and she's okay with it, then who the fuck cares?
What everyone else is doing?
Just learn to be okay with it.
And honestly, 11 years is not that big of an age gap.
Not at all.
There's crazier going on.
You go for it.
You do that.
You do that.
With consent.
First, thank you so much, Brian.
You're awesome.
The show is awesome, and it's really helpful to clear out lots of issues.
Say hi to the girls.
I'm here if you need any IT help.
I can automate stuff.
Cool.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
I don't know if you can hear me, but thank you.
I think we'll get on the IT front.
I think I got it figured out, but I'll be sure to be in touch if any instances come up.
I can feel your stress, Bea.
The snuggle is real.
This is a spoony pillow.
You guys never sent me my pillow, by the way.
You DM'd me and I gave you my information and you never sent me a pillow.
Right?
Can you see that?
You need a good cuddle sesh from your cuddle buddy.
What is spoony pillow?
Is it like a.
It looks like literally the picture.
Like a mother.
It's like a cylinder kind of that you can like put your arm under if you want to like spoon with someone, I guess.
Oh, so your arm doesn't go dead?
Yeah.
Oh!
Oh, that's actually really smart.
I'd like one too, please.
Thank you.
Yeah, send her one.
Send me one too.
Yeah, send her hers first.
When I Google.
He said he has no kids.
This is interesting.
So when you Google my father, it says that he is married.
He's only been married once, unfortunately, not to my mother.
But when he was married, it says that they don't have kids.
Oh, so that makes sense.
I am exceptionally private.
Clarification.
Yes.
That's honestly kind of nice.
Yes.
If it was not like that, you'd be like blowing up.
Oh, yeah.
Would you like to read this one?
Oh, oh, okay.
Miss Tween, let's date.
By the way, sorry for the 12 flakes.
You deserve better, Brian.
You do, Brian.
I.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm kind of not actively looking to date right now.
I said it last time I was on the show, but I have not had the best luck with dating.
With dating.
And so I've deleted all my dating apps.
And you said you're 25?
I'm 25, almost 26.
Wow.
I'm getting up there.
So yeah, so I'm kind of taking a break right now, but you know.
Gotta do what you gotta do.
Maybe in like the future.
Yeah.
T-Giggles jiu-jitsu.
Yeah, Mr. Smileman.
All right.
I think the segue was needed and they need to respect the hoofs.
Not gonna lie, I was about to check out due to her being loud and not moving on.
You were 100% justified.
Great work here.
Thank you, half-dead.
And I mean, I think.
I can hear you guys, by the way.
I'm just behind the screen for a sec.
Yeah, Brian's behind the screen, but he can still hear you.
I'm gonna.
This is for the chat and for you guys.
Can they hear me?
Chat?
One in the chat if you guys can hear me back here.
I can.
One in the chat.
Can you guys hear me?
Hello.
Chat.
One in the chat.
Oh, I see a one.
Yeah, they can hear you.
Guys, I'm gonna go.
I need to ice my neck for a little bit.
I'm gonna lay down for a little bit.
So I'll be back in about 15 minutes.
So take it away, please.
All right.
Girls' party.
Oh, we read that.
All right.
Do you want to read this one?
I've only been watching the show for around a week.
I really enjoyed.
Wait, about around a week.
I really enjoyed it.
I like the fact that you have both sides of the table, and I completely understand why you ended the transgender conversation.
Thank you for being respectful.
Yeah.
All right.
When is Bangs coming back?
Chase is the goat?
Who's Bangs?
I never met Bangs.
Okay, Bangs is definitely not coming back.
Chase is the greatest of all time.
He will be back.
Just don't know when.
Yay, Chase.
Did you meet Chase?
I did.
Oh, he's super nice.
He's very kind.
All right.
It's amazing to me that this errak from the Destiny app is still running her mouth.
Elmeo, how is someone so bad, faith, and wrong, yet snarky and arrogant?
There's terrible people in the world.
Oh, it's in the mail.
Yay.
Okay, I'll DM you later after the show, but thank you.
Glad you didn't forget about me.
That's exciting.
Send her one too.
Please.
DM her for me, myself, and I. Wait, so you have a boyfriend, you said, right?
Yes, I do have a boyfriend.
You guys have been dating for 10 months.
We've been dating for almost 10 months.
Yeah, we actually met like right when I moved down here for school.
Did you guys meet at school?
No, we met on the beach, actually.
Oh my god, romantic!
Yeah, but I actually, I don't know if I should like just tell my story, but I had a boyfriend at the time that I met my new boyfriend.
Ooh.
Where's the button?
Brian said her arm.
But yeah, I just ended up being like really good friends with my current boyfriend.
And things weren't working out with my other one.
I wanted to break up with him for like months, but it's kind of hard to when you're in like a toxic relationship.
It's hard to get out of it.
So yeah, I did it.
And then me and my boyfriend are now very committed.
We're going to get married.
And then when you first met your current boyfriend, was there any inkling in your head being like, oh, like, how you'd someone?
Or were you like.
I don't want to sound like a bad person, but like, yeah, I thought he was cute.
Like, he had a great personality.
Like, he's the same person to this day.
Like, he hasn't changed a bit.
So I think that says a lot.
Because I feel like in relationships, like, you'll get a guy or a guy will want to get, like, try to get you.
And then you'll get with him and like do give your all to him.
And then he'll be like, okay, I have her, so I don't have to try anymore.
Yeah, now I'm bored.
Yeah.
Have you ever experienced that?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I just feel like they get lazy.
That was just the problem with my last relationship.
But now we like this one.
Yeah.
And she's going to stream the wedding.
I love it.
He's actually been on the podcast.
Has he really?
I brought him like one time.
Oh, my God.
Was that scary?
No, he was actually like the reason I came on the podcast for like the first time I ever came on because he was like, one day he randomly brought it up to me.
He was like, Do you know what the whatever podcast is?
And I was like, like, I've been seeing their stuff on TikTok and all this stuff.
Like, I don't really know them.
I don't really watch them that much.
But they DM'd me like back in October.
Yeah.
And he was like, no way.
Like, that's crazy.
You have to go on.
And he convinced me to go on, and now I'm here.
And now, look, posting the after party.
Yep.
Yep.
What's your boyfriend's name?
Frankie.
Thanks, Frankie.
Hi, Frankie.
He's probably watching right now, honestly.
Okay, we'll keep going with these.
I don't actually know if we read that one.
I think I might have.
Oh, they're coming.
There's like a bunch before.
These are like the ones.
Yeah, we'll get to there.
Brian, in all seriousness, you're a good man doing an important thing.
Keep building the whatever fam.
Find a co-host to help take the weight off.
You do too much.
Ladies, favorite guests, and why?
Oh.
Guests on the podcast?
Honestly, there was an episode that I did.
I'm going to totally blink on their names, and I'm so sorry because I love them so much.
Yeah.
Be free, chat.
Be free.
And so they were OnlyFans girls over here.
And then I had two girls from Ventura next to me.
And then I think I was sitting next to Brian.
And those OnlyFan girls, I didn't really get to talk to the Ventura girls.
I talked to them for a little bit before, and they were sweet, but they had to leave in the middle.
I think they were like from Florida.
And they were all blondes.
One was in the military.
One was in a pink dress.
And they were all gorgeous.
And they were literally the coolest girls ever.
Really?
I mean, they got a lot of hate on the podcast because of OnlyFans and stuff.
But they were honestly the coolest.
So they were forever my favorite.
Once again, I don't remember your names, but ladies, you guys were amazing.
And I still think about you today.
Honestly, I feel like people judge so hard about OnlyFans, which is like reasonable.
Like, you obviously, like, you can think what you think.
I think what I think.
I know that for a fact.
But they're honestly such nice people.
Like, when I meet them in person, they're very kind people.
My favorite guest, probably my boyfriend.
There we go.
That's a good girlfriend, right there.
Can you hide that on?
I'm going to show you something from Streamlines.
Yeah.
Guys, you don't need to do two streamlines.
Can you read that?
We need to set up a rule where a chat can kick a user.
We got the feeling right from the beginning, and we have been right on each one.
We needed to kick within the first five minutes.
I like the idea of ending on time.
On days, y'all go late.
I can't read the rest.
It's cut off.
On days, y'all go late.
I'm headed to work the next day.
Thank you.
The dance.
Fantastic.
Appreciate it.
You can go ahead and put the next one.
Do you have Instagram?
I do.
Everyone's asking for our Instagrams, Brian.
You better put us in there.
Brian.
This free show is just so visited.
You can both mess on the table.
Okay.
I also.
Oh, wait.
Brian, love what you're doing here, man.
But seriously, you need to chill.
Maybe take a vacation or something and unplug.
You deserve it.
One.
And two, it helps keep you goal-oriented.
Just want the best for you.
That's why we're taking a little break soon for a week.
Is that the girls out there?
I thought I heard the girls.
I was like, this is a college town.
You'll hear a lot of girls here.
Yeshi.
Madison's day.
Thanks, guys.
Do you want to read this one?
Oh, gosh.
I want a public.
Oh, oh, I forgot.
Sorry.
Never mind.
So, yellow, yellow.
Okay.
This is the fourth show I've watched.
I enjoy the mix between Christian Chad's, non-Christian Chads, and the others.
Good stuff.
Cheers.
$9.99 is fine.
Madison, what's your Instagram?
How do you stop it?
M-A-D-Y-S-E-N-V-U-E.
Alright, I'll actually.
All right.
Our Instagrams are in the description.
All right.
What's this talk about?
12 flasks tonight?
Whoa, we were talking about flakes.
People that canceled.
So people that were about to come on the podcast but canceled last minute, which was why it was very difficult.
Would you like to?
The after-show is so much more relaxed and personal.
Love it.
This is actually a very nice vibe that you guys have.
It's a lot more like intimate conversation.
That's why I like it.
Like, it's hard to talk when there's people arguing about stuff that sometimes you're not informed about.
So you don't know what to say or what to do.
Well, and that's a lot of the time.
Like I said before, I don't usually speak unless I'm spoken to.
But at the same time, a lot of the topics, like, I just don't feel like I can have an opinion on because it doesn't involve me.
So I'm always just like.
That's how I feel too.
Sometimes like, for example, politics will be brought up.
Like, I'm not, like, I know my own like political views, but I'm not informed enough to like chime in because I can't back myself on that.
You're wrong.
Like, I have no right to say that you're Ron for feeling this or anything like that.
Or like, even when, like, you know, all the bigger topics also come up, I'm like, this was a dating party.
Yeah, exactly.
Why are you doing that?
It always seems to stray to that too.
Yeah, and like religion and all that.
I'm like, y'all, it's not even Sunday.
The Destiny Ep was hilarious.
The Apple Girl was way too effed up when she came back from the podcast.
Or from the bathroom.
Was that just a rough episode?
It was just rough.
Yeah.
From start to finish, or was it just like a steady decline?
Like, yeah, a steady love line.
It was honestly pretty interesting, though, I would say.
It was very entertaining.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you can read this one.
Shania, do you want to be a traditional wife or more modern?
That's a tricky one to answer.
I mean, like, marriage and kids, I am open to having both of those happen for me.
However, if it doesn't, I'm also not going to be heartbroken.
So I guess in that case, it would make me more modern.
However, if I were to get married, oh, and a thousand percent, my dream is to be a stay-at-home wife.
Like, I'm so excited.
And I'm just like, like, I want to have children and I want to be able to like focus on my children and give all my attention to them.
So that's exactly why I want to be a stay-at-home mom.
And luckily, my boyfriend, who I plan on getting married to, has it set up to be like that.
Hear that, Frankie?
But that's it, yeah.
Like I said, even like a stay-at-home wife.
Like, once again, kids I'm open to, but if it's just me and my partner, I'll cook for you, I'll clean for you, I'll do anything for you.
Just let me stay home.
I'm tired.
Brian, can you move that tab that's covering the chat?
I can't see it completely.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, thank you.
You can read this one.
It would be really nice if you would rate me.
I'm the guy on the left, and I think you're both absolutely beautiful and have and have from what I can see great personalities.
You're definitely Shania's side.
The guy on the left.
He got a little big one.
Seemed like a rad dude.
I honestly can't see you, so I'm just going to assume from what Brian's saying is that I would probably go on a date with you.
Okay, you can read this one too.
You were in the right tonight, Brian, about the recent drama.
It will dissipate.
Hello.
Give it time.
As you said, you didn't agree.
You weren't really following along.
Unrelated guys quit simping for girls.
Shaking my head.
Okay, I'm very, I've heard this so many times, and I don't want to sound like an old lady, but what the hell is simping?
Simping, okay, there's like, it's, I feel like the definition got like very disproportionate over time.
But simping is, for example, like a guy that will like do anything for you.
Like, so a good partner.
But people, people think of it as like in a bad way because it's like a weakness.
Yeah, a weakness.
Like, oh, like, you're my little bitch or whatever.
Like, I see.
That's why, I don't know.
Especially if the girl doesn't reciprocate that energy.
It's fucked up.
Yeah, it's fucked up.
But necessarily, I don't think simping is a bad thing.
Like, I feel like everyone thinks it's a bad thing, but.
I would love to have a simp.
Oh.
Simps in the chat.
Yeah.
Your love.
We accept all simps here.
Was it simpkeens?
Like, I just, I like very kind people.
Like, if you're gonna, like, I don't know, if you would do anything for me, that says a lot.
That means you love me.
And truth be told, that should be what a relationship is.
You would literally do anything for each other no matter what.
So I think that's like if you want to be in a relationship, you kind of gotta be a simp.
Yeah, exactly.
And it'd be your healthier, healthier.
Yeah, sim kings and queens.
We love you.
Is that it?
No, there's more.
All right, a super chat option to kick that triggers Brian to spark a vote in the chat.
If chat votes cast off, bye-bye.
Still let's Brian be respectful, but solves a problem for the stream and viewership.
Oh, that's an idea.
Everyone in the chat saying, like, no simping.
Simping's dumb.
Why?
Well, I think everyone has a different definition of simping, and that's mine.
I was about to say, can the people in the chat who say that simping is not good, can you explain what simping is for you?
Yeah, chat, let's give a good definition of what simping is.
Yeah.
We want to know.
Basically, below a friend zone fool.
Below a friend zone?
Is there below friend zone?
Like acquaintance?
People just think it's like kind of cringy to be like a simp.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Simping is admiring and worshiping a woman totally unconditionally.
Never in your mind thinking she's doing something wrong.
Oh, I can see how that's.
Okay, yeah.
I see that.
Yeah.
I see that.
That's why I brought up like if the girl's not like reciprocating it, then that's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah, you shouldn't be a simp if that's the case.
But we also said that.
That's a relationship.
You both should be simping for each other.
Educate yourselves about simps.
I'm sorry.
I don't really know this whole thing.
Oh, paying for sex without sex?
What?
Oh, so like, like, kind of a sugar daddy, but not getting the sugar?
Could be.
I mean, you're only saying good things, y'all.
Okay.
Guess my ethnicity.
Brian, this podcast is great.
That whale had to go.
Well, I don't want that.
last part's a little rude i don't want to be rude and like i don't know if this is like cultural appropriation but like i will i will guess your ethnicity but I honestly can't.
Puerto Rican, maybe?
Mexican?
Hispanic.
I don't know.
I'm trying to go off the name, too.
Oh.
Could it be.
My eyes aren't honestly that good.
It could be that.
Could be that.
I do notice Army.
Are you Arabic?
You look Arabic.
Yeah, he looks Arabic.
Also, if we're offending you, that's why I said, like, I'm sorry if this is offensive.
Okay, we're going to move on.
Shania, holla at your boy.
I am trying to have some D1 athletes.
Have you ever played sports?
I danced.
You danced?
Yeah, I was a dancer.
I used to dance, too.
Did you choose to dance?
Absolutely not.
What kind of lifestyle?
Did you dance?
I did jazz.
I see that.
I did tap, ballet, and jazz.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Can we see a tap dance?
Well, I did that when I was like four years old for like five months.
I honestly would love to know how to tap dance.
If anyone's trying to teach me how to tap dance, let me know.
How much do they have to super chat for like tap dance?
Do I get all of the money?
I'll give you tree fibb.
Oh.
$3.50?
No, 350.
What is that?
$3.50.
Oh, no.
Okay.
You can read.
Brian, we need to get Chris Williamson on the podcast.
That would be awesome.
And need more Frank Castles when people are not listening to you.
Tell them, Brian.
What is Frank Castle?
I see people always commenting fresh and fit or something like that.
Right?
Didn't they do that?
I don't know what it means, though.
Can you remind them to do 10 and up?
10 and up, please.
Yeah.
10 and up for super chats.
You're a penny off, Shane.
What time is it?
999.
Okay.
999.
It is currently 11.26 p.m. in America.
Oh, Frank Castle is just kicking someone off.
Oh, that's what I thought it was, but.
Why do they call it Frank Castle?
I honestly don't know.
Lingo these days.
I've seen several times in the chat.
Madison, what's your zodiac sign?
Honestly, I don't believe in zodiac signs, but I'm a Sagittarius.
I'm a Sagittarius.
When's your birthday?
November 27th.
You hear that?
Send me some.
Her Venmo is open.
My Venmo is the same as my Instagram.
I'm a Leo.
My birthday is August 4th.
My Venmo is also open.
I heard, like, I don't, I, like, don't believe in this stuff, but, like, I heard, like, Leo's and Sagittarius get along.
Do we?
Because they're like fire signs or something.
I kind of feel them.
We're very spicy ladies.
I honestly hate Leos, though.
Like, I can't stand it.
Yeah, me too.
But you're like cool.
Like, my sister's a Leo.
Like, we're honestly the worst.
Like.
Anyways.
Okay.
Next one.
Simping is more so when a man does whatever for a girl, sometimes sacrificing his own dignity for a woman who does not reciprocate.
A simp doesn't really relate to someone in reciprocated relationship.
Okay, I get it then.
Yeah, simping, don't simp, guys.
Don't simp.
There should definitely be a limit to the simping.
Like, don't lose yourself, but it's okay to also, you know, treat your girl right or your boy right.
We don't judge here.
Yeah, exactly.
Stop simping.
I just said that because I didn't know like the true definition of it.
Sorry.
Right, Brian, I wrote at the start about your super long intro and mods put me in a timeout.
I want my $5 membership feedback if I can be blocked from making a genuine suggestion.
Okay.
Thanks.
Thanks, Carter.
for nothing brian i dm'd you way back when you said your channel was going a different direction away from the prank stuff Glad to see you're doing well, but yes, you need a break.
Ladies, great job on the after show.
You rock.
All nice.
This is my first time doing it.
I don't know what the hell we're doing.
Originally, it was men who were giving women online loads of money for no reason and being led on.
Oh, then yeah, no, that's not good.
Wait, wasn't there, do you watch like 90 Day Fiance?
I've seen like a couple clips of that one couple.
I think there's one on Rose and no, it was.
What was his name?
I'm going to totally blank on his name.
But yeah, he kind of did exactly that.
So now I'm picturing him as a simp.
And yeah, stop simping.
Yeah, don't simp.
sorry guys we were i don't know what simply was to be honest yeah We just really like the whole treating each other right sort of thing.
Yes, absolutely.
Oh.
Is that it?
Oh, nope.
Brian's thoughts on having Tim Poole on?
Brixon?
Yeah.
He said, yeah, he's down.
Okay, what you are asking is for a man who will appreciate you and respect you and treat you.
Good.
Simping is completely different.
You're absolutely right.
Okay, so there's good simping and there's bad simping.
I guess simping in general is just like if your woman is not up to par to what you're doing for her and if you're just yeah.
Okay, we should move on from the simping.
Anywho's love the show, Brian.
Love kicking back smoking while I watch the show and do my What is that?
Love from India.
Looking forward to more.
Thanks, Mohan.
Very cool profile picture, too.
Oh, yeah.
It's very dramatic.
Very mysterious.
Frank Castle is the Punisher.
He's a Marvel character.
Oh.
Okay.
Cool, cool.
We have to read these.
I mean, they're $10, but simping is one-sided desire when a guy gives a woman his all but is unreciprocated.
Keyword, unreciprocated.
When two people give each other the same energy, it's not simping.
Makes sense.
Okay.
Don't be a simp.
Yeah, never mind.
Everything we said in the past.
Yeah.
fuck that.
Joyce Benenson and Chris Williamson had a great conversation pertaining to the subjects of this podcast.
Sounds good.
Cool, cool, cool.
This one's for you.
Shania, who's your dad?
We have said that so many times tonight.
So obviously, go back and watch it podcast.
Okay.
But also very cool profile picture.
Yeah.
I keep feeling like I'm like smacking my face on it.
Frank Castle is a punisher from Marvel Comics.
The kickouts are punishment for bad behavior.
It came from FNF.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Because one of them went viral for saying you have to punish bad behavior from girls.
Got it.
There's a lot of these coming in.
Would y'all give Instagram or social or would y'all give up Instagram or social media in general for a long-term relationship?
You can answer that first.
I would be okay with it, but I'm also, like, I like showing off my partner.
And so, you know, I would be kind of sad that I couldn't post, like, sweet things.
Yeah.
But yeah, if my partner requested it or we both did it together or like they had a good reason, then I'd be like, okay.
I, um, same, honestly, same answer.
I would give it up for a long-term relationship.
Yeah.
But I do also like flexing my boyfriend.
He's all over my Instagram.
I like keeping up with my family and my friends.
So I feel like without Instagram or social media, I wouldn't be able to keep up as much with what they're doing.
Yeah, that's true.
Shout out Flan Life in the chat.
Shout out FlanLife.
You're the bestest.
You can read.
This is how you do it.
How are you?
On dating me, I'm Rich AF.
I'm Mike Davis' cousin.
Does that change anything?
Nah, JK, I'm a combat athlete.
I'm broke A-F-L-O-L.
But yeah, never simp.
And yeah, improve like there's no tomorrow.
Thanks.
Good job, TGiggles.
Yeah.
You do you.
You're doing great.
Stay happy.
Stay keep that smile of yours.
Combat athlete, that sounds like it's a very violent job, too.
Yeah, what is that?
If you want to send another chat to tell us what that is, bring it on.
Alright, you can read.
What is masculinity to you?
How does that play into toxic masculinity?
Like, honestly, for me, it's just doing manly things, like working hard, fixing things, protecting, providing, being the best me.
Exactly.
And being, like, being strong enough to, I guess.
like oh what am i trying to say andrew tate said something about this but it's a hard qu- It's like saying what femininity is.
Yeah, it's like being strong enough to like put your, I don't know.
i don't know i watched this video but basically i think we talked Toxic masculinity is very different from masculinity.
Toxic masculinity, I think, is...
Just being a dick.
Yeah.
Yeah, being a dick, not being a true man who knows how to do their duties.
Yeah.
And yeah, you're right.
You're pretty right on your definition of masculine.
We don't need to expand.
You've nailed it.
You should bring Sneeko and Zerka on the panel would be great content.
Berkson?
Brian Winnie.
No comment.
Frank Castle's a punisher.
Punishing girls.
Oh.
Gotcha.
Cool.
We now understand Frank Castle.
Would love to see him get Tom McDonald on here.
That would be awesome.
If you haven't heard of him, I highly recommend listening to his music.
Okay.
If you were financially cared for by a wealthy man who you only saw one month out of the year, would that become frustrating and make you want to leave the relationship?
Oh.
Personally, I cannot do long distance.
Long distance sucks.
And I feel like coming from personal experience, like every time I'm not with my boyfriend, I get really upset and moody.
Yeah.
But you said you dated guys that are like far from you, right?
Yeah.
My, I've actually only been in one relationship and he lived about four hours away.
And so I would only see him on the weekends.
And I mean, it's kind of a good balance because, yeah, during the weeks, it's so hard, especially leaving on Sunday.
You just, you know, you're leaving a piece of your heart back where they are.
However, I think it's also healthy too to have that distance.
But I don't know, one month out of the year?
like are are we still allowed to be in contact with them or like i think yeah be in contact but say you can only see them like physically yeah that's tough I mean, personally, I feel like I would eventually become frustrated.
I just don't think I could do that.
Like, even though I'm financially cared for, I'd personally rather would be in a healthy relationship.
Because I just know that would be toxic for me, personally.
I'd rather be in a healthy relationship and have to support myself financially.
Precisely.
Alright.
Seems Melina was a snake.
She comes with destiny, had what seems like a micable combo, then slices up a clip that directs a ton of heat.
Brian, don't let the stress get to you.
You got this mads.
I love you.
Love you?
Aw, that's so nice, Mark.
Also really good.
There's been some great profile pictures.
Hodge twins, would you bring them on?
Their dating advice is hilarious.
Brian said yes.
He's awake.
All right.
Maybe taking a break is a good thing for Brian and the audience because I think I'm starting to lose brain cells by continuously watching for so long.
Tonight was pretty good though.
Yeah, that's pretty.
We've got some heat.
Brixon, do you love steaks?
I work for a famous steak company and would love to send you some.
I love steaks.
Steak is my favorite food.
I love steaks.
Send me a ton of steaks.
Brian loves steaks.
DM at whatever on Instagram.
Send us some steaks.
You want to read?
Ladies, have you ever had a guy in the friend zone and how did you deal with the situation?
Wait, were like we put them in the friend zone?
Yeah.
I don't think I have.
I've been in the friend zone, but I don't think I've put someone in the friend zone.
Oh.
I have had a guy in the friend zone before and it's honestly really hard to deal with a situation like that, but I guess giving them the closure that it's okay to be friends and that even if you tried really hard to be in a relationship, it wouldn't be pure because you're kind of forcing it upon yourself.
So I guess just stay like really good friends with them.
Be kind.
My best advice.
Yeah.
Oh, um, Shania, I understand the idea of showing off your man, but social media is the devil.
It was a big reason for my premature exodus, I think, from my longtime partner.
Men don't want to be shown off.
They want peace.
That, I mean, so, like I said before, I'm actually huge on privacy.
And so when I show off my man, it's like little things.
So it's not like a big old, you know, projection of like, look at this, this is my boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever.
My last relationship, that was actually something that he brought up when we were on the decline is that I didn't show him off enough.
Yeah, I was just gonna say that.
Like, you said showing off your man, social media is a devil.
Well, I feel like if you want to bring your relationship into social media, you have to take that into accountability and you just have to ignore it or block anyone that tries to bash on your relationship.
And yeah, like she said, my boyfriend loves that I show him off.
praise me all the time for showing him off so that's it that's what my ex actually said that because i wasn't posting him enough i was protecting someone else's feelings which i was like oh that's interesting Very interesting.
Truth be told, I just looked ugly in all of our photos together.
Some girls, though, like, some girls will not post their man because of things like that, which is so sad.
Yeah.
Just don't date him then.
Like I said, I'm just, I'm private, but I still want it to be known that I am off limits, if that makes sense.
Oh, he changed his picture just so he could see closer.
Can you see me better in this picture?
You got glasses on.
Is that a do-rag?
I think so.
I mean, you're throwing up a shaka, so that's, you must be nice.
We still can't really see you.
I really don't like to judge on looks because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Here.
How about instead, why don't you tell us, since we both love humor, why don't you tell us your best joke and we'll rate you off your joke, whether we date you.
Best joke and best pickup line.
Send us a pickup lines are good too.
Then we'll give you a rating.
We welcome dirty pickup lines as well.
Yes.
Wait, did you like accidentally scroll down too far?
Because I feel like we maybe skipped a whole bunch of super chats.
I don't think so.
You sure?
Hold on, let's check.
What's up?
Welcome.
I'm back, guys.
Wait, so.
We did all of these.
You did?
Mm-hmm.
You sure?
Yep.
Oh.
Wait, where did we leave it?
This one?
Yeah.
Did you read this one?
No.
Brian, you should also try to get Matt Reif on.
Oh, that's the comedian my boyfriend and I've got to do it.
I watched him on pool you've had me on.
I'm gonna.
Yeah.
Dude cracks me up and is unapologetic in his comedy routine.
Chris is lord.
I don't know who that is, but I'll check it out.
I have a suggestion of who we should try to get on.
Chat, does anyone know who Shoddy Bae is?
Do you know who Shodi Bae is?
No idea.
By the way, I think we should boost.
Otherwise, we might be here all night.
We should maybe boost the super chat trigger to 19, 1999 and up.
Yeah.
The difference between you two ladies and most of the other female guests is you carry yourself with grace.
What do you think it means to be a true to purpose woman?
First of all, thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
I'll leave you in control.
To be a true to purpose woman, I'm just guessing like to be a woman, you know.
But to embrace your femininity.
I mean, I don't.
Once again, this is like the masculinity question.
Like it's tough to be like, what makes you a woman?
I mean, personally, for me, it's just calm.
Like, never lose your head.
Just stay chill.
Be peaceful.
Do you have the mouse?
Oh, here.
Yeah, I was going to say, sorry.
It's a weird mouse, though, if you know how to use one of the vertical mouses.
Oh, this button here.
No.
Oh.
That's right-click.
It's the top button.
So you have to...
Oh, Jesus now.
Whoops.
whoops what do you think it means to be a true to oh what What is that?
True to purpose woman.
And when I say embrace your femininity, I don't necessarily mean, like, feminism, blah, blah, blah, but, like, embracing your womanhood, your maternity?
So you press this one, the top one.
Okay.
Okay.
I did that, didn't I?
No, you pressed the right click button.
Oh.
Just look at your Instagram, and yes, you can see that you are very proud of your boyfriend and that you are very happy.
And I wish more women would make their Instagram look like that when they are taken.
Okay, so I do like it.
Yeah.
Is this my cup?
This wanderer?
Mine was lost over that.
Is this yours, Madison?
I don't know.
Is there lipstick on it?
No.
Are you wearing lipstick?
I think this is.
Is that one of yours?
because i didn't finish my water brian are you gonna do more vetting have more rules restrictions for future pods to cut down the stress of having to deal with kicking people out Or do you think it's good for viewership?
I mean, there's only so much vetting you can do.
I you never know.
You never know.
I mean, a girl who would otherwise seem normal.
You know.
Yeah, there's not much vetting.
I mean, there's some vetting you can do where it's obvious if they're going to be like a mess, a mess.
But you never know.
We do, we do, there's like a lot of people are like, Brian, why do you get so mad at the girls if they do this or they do that?
Or you tell them to speak into the mic.
I mean, we do like a 10-minute pre-show instructional, a panel instruction before the shows, and we say, speak into the mic, don't interrupt.
If Brian redirects, let them redirect.
It's a long-winded pre-show instructional.
And people just, even though I hammered away speaking to the mics, like people just forget.
And I'm OCD too.
So thank you, Joey.
We're going to be here all night, by the way.
So let's mods bump it to bump it to nine.
Well, it's guys from here on out.
We're going to do $19.99 and up.
So that should be the orange.
So we're not going to do anything.
No, we're going to read all the tens that came in, but just from if you got a $10 soup chat in $9.99, we're going to read it.
But just so we can get out of here pretty soon.
Hodge.
$19.99 and up.
Thank you, Blair.
But be a kick, but guess.
Would also, yes, be a kick, but.
Oh, kick, butt guest.
Okay.
Yeah, I actually discovered the Hodge twins like probably 10 years ago.
I used to watch their stuff when they were primarily doing like fitness and kind of funny videos.
They used to have this intro that they always did.
It was really funny.
Like 45-second intro.
Anyways.
Yeah, I love the Hodge Twins.
They're super funny.
Oh, that was a right clip.
Yeah, you're good.
Yeah, super violent.
I'm a pro-submission grappler trying to stay humble here.
But yeah, I'm broken people's feet in a toe hold.
Sounds like stepping on a tree branch multiple times, put people to sleep.
Damn.
He's strong.
Call me.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
It's going down in the super chat.
I'm just going with her.
Crazy.
Wait, was he the one that said the D1 athlete thing?
No, that was another one.
No, somebody else, okay.
We told him he had a nice smile and everything.
I remember that.
Would you choose six-pack or dad bod?
Six-pack.
Shania is for sure a dad bod.
I mean, I'm cool with anything.
What about you, Maddie?
Right now, I would choose a six-pack, but I wouldn't be opposed to a dad bod because eventually, obviously.
Eventually, Frankie's going to have a dad bod.
Don't you dare say that.
Frankie's going to be shredded until he's 70.
Exactly.
He's shredded.
He never said he was going to have a dad bot.
Okay.
All right.
Yo, we have the same birthday.
Ladies, would you prefer to live in the mountains or the beach?
Wait, I think.
Hello.
Oh, wait.
I wasn't here.
So I was like, why are you calling me ladies?
Hello?
Wait, you look really familiar.
I think I've seen you on Instagram.
Oh, shit.
Beach.
It's going down in the super chats for Shania.
I've stalked your page.
Beach.
Beach.
Brian, since Michael Knowles did such a great job giving his Catholic perspective to the OF girls, would you like a Mormon perspective on the show?
Let me know.
Yeah, it could be interesting to have somebody who's Mormon come on the show.
The thing is, though, is we get like 100, well over 100 DMs a week from guys wanting to be on the show.
So just due to the volume of requests we get.
And also I stack the panels with girls.
So like if I do have a guy on the show, it's either going to be someone who's notable or like the thing is that I've had experiences where we used to bring on just guys more frequently.
But what I found is that a lot of guys will talk a big game and they'll say, Brian, put me on the show.
I'll show these girls.
I'm such a good debater.
I'm like, you know, I know how to argue.
And then they come on the show and then they're sitting in front of eight girls, some of which are hardcore feminists, and the lights are on, the cameras are on, there's 10,000 people watching the show.
And they still donated $100.
Missed the show today.
I hope you guys are well and I keep hearing Brian needs a vacation.
I hope there's nothing serious weighing on your mind.
Much love, guys.
Hey, Victor, man.
I think I saw your.
I don't know if you messaged me on Instagram or what, but thank you, man.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you for that really generous TTS.
Yeah.
Oh, reminder: TTS is, maybe I should put that in the description.
TTS, we lowered it to $99 if anyone's interested.
Just to wrap up on the other one, though, if you could pull that one back up, if you scroll up just a bit.
Yeah.
So, what was I saying?
Oh, yeah, we get guys who say, oh, I'll do great on the show.
And then they don't really, they just, they choke.
They just sit there.
I mean, not to throw Jake under the bus.
He requested to be on the show.
Nice guy.
But he wasn't really able to insert himself into the conversation.
And we tell people before the show, a lot of people are like, oh, give other people an opportunity to speak.
But we tell people, hey, look, there's a tendency for one or two people to be conversationally dominant.
And I explicitly instruct them, if you want to speak, you need to either do a hand raise or try to insert yourself into the conversation.
I'm too busy trying to handle super chats, be conscious of time, and all these.
There's like so many moving parts.
And then I'm also trying to listen to the conversation and think of my own rebuttals or arguments.
So it's very difficult for me to be multitasking all these things.
So I tell people like before the show, very explicitly, insert yourself or do a hand raise.
And what ends up happening is a lot of people come on the show and then they just not able to insert themselves.
And look, it's tough when there's really dominant speakers, especially if you're more soft-spoken.
I consider myself soft-spoken.
I have the privilege of being the host.
So I'm kind of in a position where I'm a bit more capable of just interrupting and being like, you know, inserting myself.
And I've done 70 plus of these.
But yeah, a lot of guys say, hey, let me on the show.
And then they come and they just fucking sit there and they don't.
There's been a lot of guys who have come on the show who've either added nothing or actually been a detriment.
So I'm very selective with the male guests.
I basically want a guy who you need to basically have proven track record of being a capable speaker and debater.
I'm willing to put you on if you send me videos.
But then the other thing that we have other concerns too.
We now have security concerns because of the controversial nature of the podcast.
I have to be considerate of who I'm letting into the studio.
We run a very tight ship.
Nobody's allowed behind the scenes during the show.
I'm very cautious of who I let into the studio.
And then it's just a matter of volume.
I'm kind of rambling here.
We just have way too many people wanting to be on the show.
So yeah.
Sorry for the long-winded.
What's your ideal male body type?
How important is it that your boyfriend meets your ideal?
Honestly, I've dated, or I wouldn't say dated, but been with very various amount of body types.
I've dated skinny men, a little bit of larger men.
Just a reminder, 1999 and up.
Shania, what?
300 pounds plus is your type?
No.
Okay.
I like, truthfully, I do not care.
So that's it.
You can be a little fluffy.
You can be super fit.
You could be anything as long as you're funny.
Sure.
Next one.
Brian, we love you.
We really do.
And welcome back.
But this is Maddie's at the show now.
Word.
Yeah, Maddie should just host the show.
We should do this like every.
Yeah, I think I'd like to do that.
And just have like one or two of the guests stay after.
The cool guests, I guess.
Yeah, the cool guess.
Thank you.
Don't get a big head.
Ladies, would you give up city life to move to the countryside to have a slow and peaceful lifestyle if your partner was providing everything?
Absolutely.
Yes.
Yeah.
Who said I hated the countryside?
I feel like that's the dream now.
Yeah, that's the American dream.
Okay.
You want to read this one?
Me?
Yeah.
Men and women view each other as status symbols.
SM is the modern day ballroom.
Men and women want their significant others to be proud of them and show them off.
Discretion in SM.
Oh, on social media.
Required, though.
What's SM?
Social media?
Oh.
Social media is the body.
Thank you, Blair.
spam it every few every minute or something oh you skipped the yeah Thank you for the Canadian 55 man, Merci Buku.
Brian, this is for you to go out tomorrow and just grab some lunch and a drink.
I can see how stressed you are, but you need to persevere.
Your show will help a lot of men and women in the future.
Yeah, it's been pretty stressful.
Honestly, though, it's so fucking unfortunate.
Like, back in March, I tweaked my neck, and the show was already stressful to begin with, but like when you're in physical, I mean, I've had chronic pain issues for a while, but like I've had the worst neck pain flare-up for two months, basically.
It's really bad.
It's bad.
Like, I'm in pain right now.
And I took some, I took like a Tylenol before the show, but I've been icing.
So if it wasn't for my neck pain, I would, I don't think I would be, I think I would be able to better tolerate the stress of the show if I wasn't in just constant chronic pain.
But I think when you're in physical pain, it just like it lowers your threshold to like where just I'm my my what's what's the term for it?
I'm like my fuse is short or something.
So just like little little stressors that wouldn't bother me normally or bother a normal person.
Like it's just I don't know.
I don't know.
It's kind of like for example like let's say you have let's say you could deal with one life stressor that you know would otherwise be tolerable.
But if you start like okay you're you're having financial issues then you're having health issues and then you're having interpersonal issues.
You're having issues with your family issues with your relationship.
It just starts piling up and it just really lowers your threshold.
So I need to meditate or some shit.
But yeah, I've been pretty irritable.
It's something I need to work on, but I don't want to cop out like, oh, I don't want to use my chronic pain issues as a cop-out, but I don't know if any of you have dealt with physical pain.
Like, I would.
Physical pain is like a whole nother beast.
I don't know if any of you have had that experience, but, um, I think I can handle like emotional pain, but like, I don't know, physical pain is, uh, is pretty tough.
Anyways, I'm being, I'm being, you're trauma dumping right now.
I'm trauma dumping on my drink.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, I'm being a what's what's the word?
A Debbie Downer?
Pickle toe.
All right.
Thank you, Sky Patrol.
There's not enough space for my best joke on here, and I don't believe in pickle lines.
Just try to be real.
Brian, though, there's enough space for your best joke.
Come on.
Just from that, we're not going to go on that date.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, sorry.
We had to turn it down.
All right, Steven Crowder would be interesting to have on the show, but not sure it would be a good idea if you want to stay on good terms with the DW alol.
Yeah, I guess they're in the beef.
I don't think it would be.
I mean, if I hosted him, I don't think.
Daily Wire is pretty professional.
Like, it's not.
I don't think it would be an issue.
I don't think Steven Crowder would come, though.
I think he has kind of enough on his plate as it is right now.
But I mean, I'd love to have him on.
He's reacted to one of our videos.
Thank you, man.
Hey, boo.
But yeah, I've won multiple grappling championships on the East Coast, performed live on Flow Grappling and YouTube, among others.
Was in a camp for MMA fight, got a concussion.
Don't want CTE.
So grappling's the move long term, LOL.
I still don't know what that is.
That's nice.
Yo, giggles, did you wrestle in high school?
Are you from the U.S.?
Because I feel like a lot of people who'd like wrestled in high school end up going into jujitsu and MMA and stuff.
I wrestled in high school.
Common ground.
Yeah, I wrestled in high school.
Brixon, when is Tasha coming back?
Also, try to get Hannah Claire Bruno from Timcast on, I think, Mary.
Oh, Natasha.
Hey, thank you for the Canadian Rome.
Appreciate it.
I'm not sure who Hannah is, but I'll check her out.
I don't know if Natasha's coming back.
I think I called her in passing, like in one of our live streams, a pick-me.
And look, I wasn't like, she's going to be mad at me for even mentioning that.
But look, I called her a pick-me.
I don't dislike Natasha, just you know, whatever.
Okay, let's move on.
She's probably going to call me up and be all pissed with that.
I sent message to Insta about steaks.
Bet.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Is it filet mignon?
I could cook us a really nice steak.
I'm a great cook.
Let's do a cooking stream.
I don't know.
I'm a really good cook.
I have a stove over there.
Yeah, I cook every night for dinner.
That would be like the most gangster shit.
Like after this, like right before the stream ends, during the after show, we have you move the camera.
We move that camera and we have you like cooking steak and then we eat some stuff.
That's literally what I had for dinner.
I cooked my chicken and rice and bread.
Wow, okay.
Wow.
Lucky Frankie.
Okay.
Wait.
Oh, he's back.
There we go.
I guess a good pickup line would be for me, if you'd like to date a man who will love you, under you, and cherish you, I'll be sitting over here.
What?
That was going to be a hard pass for me.
It was always going to be a pass.
I'm sorry.
Appreciate it.
If I went that way, just saying you're a handsome man.
Great beard.
Right.
I'm very serious about the D1 athlete children.
It's simply a financial move.
Jake had nothing productive to say.
Very disappointing.
Yo, Victor, thank you, man.
By the way, did they blow up your did they blow up your Instagram when we showed your Instagram?
Wait, that's him?
Yeah, that's Victor.
What?
The number 1D?
The number 1D, the big D.
Oh.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate all the support you've shown.
Y'all's dream car.
Bugatti.
No.
I'd like a Lamborghini with the suicide doors.
That's cool.
I could see you driving that.
I just want a mom escalade.
A mom escalade.
I want a 65 Mustang in baby pink.
That's so fitting.
So cute.
Yeah, I'd like a McLaren would be good.
Lamborghini.
I'm not a flashy guy, though.
I mean, I still drive.
I bought a Toyota in 2013 that, you know, $20,000, something like that.
Maybe it was $25K Toyota.
Still drive it.
I'm not a flashy dude.
Funny, but it's only $10.
Go ahead.
We'll just pull it up.
Why not?
Hell yeah.
Thank you, man.
Thank you for the Australian 10.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
Been getting a lot of entertainment out of the shows lately.
You're the goat.
Hey, thanks.
Brian, what server faction do you play on Classic?
I'm the White Main OG.
Oh, shit.
First off, Shania, we need to hear the goat noise.
Do it.
Meh.
I said early cheap.
Meh.
Oh, goat noise.
My bad.
Okay, whatever.
Don't goats make the same noise?
Yeah, it's like meh.
Or something like that.
Can you make an alpaca?
It's like a good alpaca noise.
What do they make?
Don't they just scream?
They literally just scream.
Or do they spit?
What are the spitting ones?
I'm pretty sure they scream.
What noises do llamas make?
It's either the fox side.
Oh, goats scream.
Oh.
Yeah, so I played World of Warcraft during vanilla.
This was back in like 2005.
I played a little bit during TBC.
I played a little bit during CADA.
But I never was serious about it when I was younger.
But then I always preferred vanilla.
And then I stopped after CADA, basically.
And then I came back for classic, and I was like hardcore with it.
Joined a hardcore rating guild.
Had 460s, a mage, a warlock, a warrior, a rogue, rogue main, warrior, alt.
And then I had the mage and warlock alt.
I was on, I don't know if I want to reveal the server.
I was on.
I quit before AQ40.
People are like in the chat, what the fuck is he talking about?
I don't see that.
These girls over here are like, what the fuck is he talking about?
I just had elevator music turn on in my head.
I played horde.
You know, it's funny.
I was initially going to roll on white main.
Or maybe I was going to roll on Fairbanks.
But like my name was taken that I wanted.
So I went on a like a medium pop realm, which was really good towards the beginning.
It had a pretty good balance.
It was lower pop.
And my guild, I was in like the top rating guild.
But it was Loot Council and the Loot Council was corrupt.
But we were like speedrunning.
Like we were top 10 horde guilds in North America.
Yeah.
And my 60 warrior was named.
Does it fucking matter?
It was named Brian.
That's all I'll say.
Yeah.
Okay, the next one.
Make dudes who want to be in the show and up.
Put down $1,000.
If there are great guests who contribute to get their, who contribute, they get their cash back.
If they blow you, keep the money.
Let chat or Matty decide if they sucked.
Honestly, I mean, to me, it's just, I don't want to.
i'd probably honestly make someone pay like 10k for a seat at this point i'm just chase is a good host and then there's like content creators i can bring on that would be good co-hosts But back when we were doing 300 live viewers, I was more open to like just bringing on random guys.
But now there's just a lot more on the line, a lot more eyeballs.
I'm not ready.
I'm not really prepared to like risk a dead seat, as I call it, for the chance that the guy is maybe good.
So yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Thank you, though.
Appreciate the super chat, man.
No, I didn't say she should host the show.
Remember, I said we love you.
They're talking about you, Brian.
Oh, honestly.
Go ahead.
You honestly do a fantastic job, and nobody can replace you here.
But Maddie's a great after-show co-host.
Oh, yeah, no, I didn't take it in a bad way.
Yeah, and I think you did say after-show co-host.
Yeah, Maddie's the goat.
Maddie's the goat.
Sim for Maddie Squad.
Don't sin.
I was about to say we just found out don't bat.
All right.
Thank you for your explanation on the stressors.
Your chronic pain is not a cop-out.
I lost my leg three years ago, and I'm trying to persevere and become a high-value man, even with the pain, 24-7 pain.
Love your show.
Hashtag based.
Hey, Sky Patrol drones, thank you for the Canadian Merci Buku.
Sorry to hear about your leg.
Holy shit, man.
Three years ago, can you tell us what happened?
Like, how did you, was there a car accident, something else?
But do you get, by the way, do you get phantom limb pain?
Because you lost your leg?
By the way, is it below the knee, above the knee amputation?
Yeah, man, that's, I mean, I have pretty bad neck pain, but I know there's people who have it way worse than me, and they still persist.
So good for you, man, for continuing to persevere.
And yeah, I mean, that's a to lose your leg is just, hold on, leave it up for a sec.
I just want to.
That's pretty fucking major, man.
And I've heard, it's interesting, though, with people who have amputations.
There's, and this is kind of, I don't want to get too far into this topic, but there's this concept where I think there's a psychosomatic component of chronic pain, like especially for neck pain, well, especially for back pain.
And I think that a lot of pain can be in the mind and like rewiring your neural circuitry.
I mean, a lot of people report after having a major life stressor event that they get, they all of a sudden start having chronic back pain.
And I think that's a component of my pain.
I do have a structural issue.
I have a fracture in my L5S1.
So I have what's called a spondylasthesis.
Basically the vertebrae.
If I can, I don't know how to, if I'm here.
The vertebrae for, I have a fracture in my low back.
The vertebrae slides out of place.
So if you think about your vertebrae, it's stacked.
So mine will like slide out of place.
So I do have a structural issue, but I think some of my pain is also psychosomatic, and I'm working on that.
But one thing I heard with people who have an amputation, for example, even if, so if you have pain in your foot and you have to, maybe you have an injury on your foot and you have to amputate the leg, you will still feel the pain that you felt previously, even though they're the and that's perhaps related to nerves where the amputation, anyways,
this is totally unrelated.
I was actually like kind of interested in what you're saying.
Yeah, no, but people who have, for example, amputations, they will report feeling as if their arm or foot or leg is still there.
It's called phantom limb pain, and it's a really interesting, maybe it's related to the nerves, but I think there's a neural component to it because pain is in the brain.
Anyways, but Sky Patrol, thank you, man.
Sorry.
You are a high-value man already.
Hey, Brian, I've been living with chronic pain for 10 years now.
Muscle, nerve, and joint.
Find what works for your pain and use it when you need it.
If it's tens, get it set up before the show and turn it on when you need it.
Yeah, I've tried tens.
It's okay.
I use, there's a variety of stuff I'm using, but yeah, sorry to hear that you've been dealing with pain for 10 years, man.
It's rough.
And yeah, this most recent flare-up's been pretty bad.
And it's been two months now, so I'm a little worried, but whatever.
Next.
Yeah.
Brian, have you ever considered Chase being a co-host on the show?
And also, you need to get Ben Shapiro on there.
Yeah, Chase has other things going on.
I offered it to him.
Chase has, and I think he's mentioned on the show, Chase has, is it Lyme disease?
Yeah, Lyme disease.
Yeah.
And that impacts his energy.
So some days he just, like, I don't think he's in the place to, like, deal with arguments and debate.
And, like, you need to be pretty – so I struggle with it because I have brain fog and headaches because of my neck injury.
It's hard for me to stay focused.
So I understand that.
and he gets pretty bad brain fog.
So it's not, the invitation's there, but I don't think Chase has the time right now to just be constantly doing it.
And yeah, down for Ben Shapiro.
Oh, do this one?
Know your realm.
Thank you for the Australian Tony, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for the Australian Tawney Mon.
What about Gingersnap from LWC or Brett Cooper from DW?
Obviously, Steven is an O. What about Phil L from ATR?
I know you're stressed, but please know you're doing the world a legitimate justice simply by broadcasting.
Hey, Joshua, thank you, man.
I don't know, Gingersnap.
Brett Cooper, yes.
I've spoken to her producer.
I don't know.
And like, sometimes people reach out, and then, I mean, especially with some of the recent drama, I think we've had some people flake because of the drama.
And then a lot of girls, you know, people were like, oh, they're semi-getting canceled a little bit.
Don't want to go on the show.
Not really, like, I don't know, but maybe I'm over exaggerating with that.
I'm down to have Stephen on.
I wouldn't say it's obviously no.
I don't know, Phil.
But Joshua, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Had similar neck.
I don't know if yours is the same as mine.
I think mine has been sitting at my job for the last six years.
Personally, not as much physical activity as I should have.
Anyway, I appreciate you.
You guys are awesome.
Any steak.
You want to send steak too?
Bring it on over.
Yeah, filet mignon.
Let's go.
Yeah, sitting is not good.
Definitely, I start getting kind of dizzy towards the end of these shows, and sitting's not great.
So, yeah, thank you, man.
Got Claudio.
Thank you, man.
Would you ever have Justin Waller back on?
And damn, he got wrecked in the comments section kind of deservedly, though, or so, though.
Also, he didn't really add much, in my opinion.
Yeah, I would have Justin back on.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, the back and forth with Lila was a little because she was nice, I think.
I don't know if he was just in a bad mood that day or he seemed a little on edge.
I don't know.
Everyone has bad days.
He was super nice, you know.
I think I'm down to have him back on.
I don't know if he would come back on, though, because he got, I mean, the back and forth with Lila.
I don't think he came out looking looking the best.
I think she got under his skin a little bit.
So, yeah.
He was cool.
Oh, again, to your Googles.
Yep, wrestled in middle school and played football in high school.
You're right, Brian.
Raslins, OP, and MMA, Bo, Nickel, Khabib, Islam, LOL, Brian, Dude Jujitsu, you'll love it.
Twain, are we wifey and hubby?
You'd have to pay on the first date.
Shania, you gotta pay.
It is what it is, man.
Where do you live, Giggles?
Oh, shit.
It's going down like Donkey Kong.
Are you long distance?
Because, you know, I got a thing for those across the seas.
Wait, I have a thing for this.
Hold on.
It's on my Donkey Kong beach.
Okay.
Cute.
Wait, did he mute?
Hold on.
You can keep reading.
Okay.
If you want some Midwest steaks and burgers, messages in your insta.
Yes.
We would love some.
Do you like steak?
I am not a fan of red meat, so you guys can have my share.
Retired semi-pro wrestler with some neck and back issues after 12 years or 14 years of wrestling.
Foam roller and trigger point rollers really helped.
Buy two, roll it up in a hot towel, and you should see results.
Hope it helps.
Madison would make a great mom.
Why didn't I make a great mother?
Look at you with your interracial baby.
Okay.
What?
I'm all about interracial.
Okay.
Canceled.
Yeah.
Wait, did we read this one?
I have to hold the baby.
Oh, roll up in a hot towel and you should see results.
Yeah, I need to get on my, what's it called?
Just, I need to do like proper PT physical therapy.
Next one.
Thank you, Richard.
All right.
Victor says, my grandma is still getting blown up from two podcasts ago.
I'm probably going to set it back to private, but some of the comments are pretty funny.
It's given me pretty good content for my meme page.
Good times.
Wait, he's got a meme page?
Oh, shit.
He's funny.
Oh, by the way, Richard Tyler, yeah, I've heard pro wrestlers, their bodies go through the ringer.
Holy shit.
What was that movie with Val Kilmer?
Wait, is that Val Kilmer?
Miki Rourke?
Yeah, yeah, it was Mickey Rourke.
Excuse me.
He was in the wrestler.
Is that Darren Aronofsky?
That was a sad, that was kind of a pretty sad movie.
Okay.
Godspeed, though, and you're healing, man.
Hello from New Zealand.
Hey, thank you, man.
Shout out to Brian and his awesome work.
Also, up the All Blacks because I know you a rugby fan.
Last off, I wish New Zealand women were as stunning as...
Oh, that's so nice.
I would have been married years ago.
Check this out.
This is a New Zealand.
Let me see it.
Rugby World Cup 2011.
Yeah, New Zealand 2011.
Yeah, big fan of rugby.
I haven't been watching it.
I was super into it like a decade ago.
I still watch highlights and stuff.
Is SBW?
Is he still playing?
Rugby?
Sonny Bill Williams.
I'm trying to think like New Zealand rugby players.
I really liked, um, shit.
It was like, Who's really impressive?
You know who's really impressive?
Fuck, what's it?
He plays for South Africa.
He's the nine.
I forgot the names of the.
Oh, he's the scrum half.
Fuck.
Oh, anyone in the chat?
Chat, do any of you watch rugby?
Who's the who's the number nine for the South African team?
It's, I don't, I don't want to read the chat because I want it to come to me naturally.
It's Pete.
Fuck.
Wait, wait, wait.
Rugby, hello.
He's the short guy.
Really?
Fuck.
Anybody?
Anyone?
Chat?
Hello?
Fuck, what's his name?
How many hours do you take to prep for dinner?
Only about like a hundred.
Here, I'm gonna look it up.
Oh, Fafta Cleric.
Thank you guys.
It's Faft.
Yeah, it wasn't gonna come to me.
Faft to Cleric, the giant slayer.
Dude, he's I really like Fafta Cleric.
And who was good on the New Zealand team?
Quade Cooper, I liked.
Yeah, whatever.
He was Australian, though.
Door, thank you for the 20-man.
Appreciate it.
Sorry, that was a speech to textvail.
It was supposed to say, love, honor, and cherish you.
I will be over here.
Like a good woman should be entreated.
I love the Bronco and her Instagram.
Ooh.
Let me have the mouse really quick.
I'm just going to check if there was any TTSs.
So I love cars.
And we had an old Bronco pull up on my job for a photo shoot.
And I was like, I got to say that.
I was like, I'm curious.
Was I gone when this one came through?
Missed the show today.
I hope you guys are well.
That one never came through.
This one?
Hold on.
Victor underscore apostle donated $100.
Missed the show today.
I hope you guys are well, and I keep hearing Breon needs a vacation.
I hope there's nothing serious weighing on your mind.
Much love, guys.
I think it did come through, but hey, Victor, man, really appreciate it.
All right.
Oh, this is kind of sad.
Hey, Brian, I lost my leg from cancer.
I still feel my entire leg that isn't there.
I can still wiggle my non-existent toes.
Bro, this thing's been on the entire fucking time.
Hello?
No wonder it's not.
The pocket pussy or not the pocket pussy.
Autoblow.
Auto blow.
We're ruining a lot of money.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I said this was.
Sky Patrol.
I'm sorry, man.
I heard like this low-frequency buzzing, and I'm OC.
It's just your girlfriend.
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Okay, I'm going to reread it for this.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, man.
I'm a dickhead.
Hey, Brian, I lost my leg from cancer.
I still feel my entire leg that isn't there.
I can still wiggle my non-existent toes.
I lost my entire leg, but I'm not looking for sympathy.
I'm trying to persevere, hoping to start a new company soon.
Go you.
I like this guy.
Yo, you're a boss, man.
I mean, that's, I mean, to lose a limb is like a whole nother, oh, cancer.
Holy shit, man.
Yeah.
I hope.
Have you had any issues with remission?
Or like, you're good, like, totally clear.
I can still wiggle my non-existent toes.
That's wild.
Are you taking a photo?
That's really insensitive of you to take a photo with your interracial baby while we're talking about while we're talking about his leg.
I think you owe an apology to Sky Patrol Jones.
Or the auto-blowout.
That is true.
I think that was a bit more insensitive that I pulled out a fucking blow, auto-blow.
I'm sorry, brother.
But yeah, man, persevered.
And yeah, that's the phantom limb syndrome thing I was talking about.
So he can, even though his leg's gone, he still feels his entire leg.
Do you have what would feel like nerve pain in your leg?
Like, do you have, is your leg painful or is it just you feel it as if it was totally normal?
But, hey, man.
Sorry to hear about the leg, man.
That's.
Is it your left or right?
Because we actually had an amputee on the show.
A woman who also lost her leg, maybe.
A while ago?
Yeah, a while ago.
Yeah.
And she, like, took the leg off.
Do you have a prosthetic, Sky?
She took the leg off and like, boom, put it on the table.
Wait, were you there, Shana?
Like out of pocket, just bam.
Well, I mean, we're like, can you show us?
We asked if she could show us the prosthetic and she's like, puts it around the table.
I was here when Hensley showed off her killer boots.
Oh, shit.
The bloody one.
Sorry.
Go ahead, Go ahead.
Where's Kiko been?
I don't agree with what she believes in, but she brings a good argumentative dynamic to the show.
I actually saw her not too long ago.
Oh, when you snuck into a don't say that.
We're going to have Kiko back on.
We'll have her back on.
I'd like to have her do a round three with Chase.
That'd be fun.
That's your baby.
This is my baby.
My baby's more valuable than yours.
Here, hold on, Shania.
Shania, you need a baby too.
Get her a baby.
Here, catch.
Give me the baby.
Okay.
This is the weirdest stream ever.
I'm just saying Tom McDonald would be great.
I think it would do amazing.
He has great music.
It speaks truth to the people instead of lies like our media.
K-Pip.
Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
tom mcdonald oh tom mcdonald the guy with the uh hey flan life dude Thank you so much for the five gifted.
Yo, I want to do a big fucking shout out to Flan Life.
He's been a longtime supporter.
Almost every show, he's gifting 20 subs or 20 memberships, 50 memberships, 100 memberships.
By the way, Flan Life, this one's for you.
Can you hide it really quick?
I'm going to do the, we'll read this one sec.
I always forget to trigger the fireworks, so this one's for you, man.
Boom.
Yeah, fireworks for Flan Life.
Honestly, probably like 500 of you who have your memberships is because of Flan Life.
Flan Life's an OG fucking whatever supporter.
He's been supporting for a really long time.
He's a really good guy.
And I just really want to thank you, man, for your patronage.
It means the world.
And I appreciate you tuning in week after week and not only watching the show, but supporting the show.
And that's, I mean, to all of you who tune in, I really appreciate it, guys.
You guys are awesome.
So sorry that I always like forget, I delay the fit checks and I forget to do the fireworks.
But Flan Life, I really appreciate your support and patronage, man.
Thank you.
Yeah, pull that one back up.
Vosh, to come on this.
Do you want to read it?
I would like to nominate Vosh to come on this.
He's a streamer slash commentator, really good debater, same ilk as Destiny.
I think he lives in LA too.
Also, it might be interesting to have a pickup artist on the panel.
I don't know if I want a pickup artist on the panel.
I don't know.
The whole like, I feel like the pickup stuff's a little 2005.
But maybe, I mean, I don't know.
I feel like a lot of the pickup artists are kind of, I mean, they're a lot of them, I don't know.
Vosh, though, I don't, he's a political commentator, right?
I could be down.
I'd have to check him out.
But I'm open.
I'll bring on people.
Yeah.
Thank you, Green Lantern, for the, was it British Pounds?
Thank you, man.
Would you like to read this?
Shania, my looks didn't get me far in life.
It was mostly my sense of humor.
Also, it's Francois.
Francois.
Also, Francois.
Is that his name?
I thought his name was Victor.
Francois is such a beautiful name.
Wait, bad ZXE, confirm or deny.
Is your name Francois or Victor?
Vector.
Just a reminder, guys, 1999 and up for Super Chats.
T giggles.
Yep, babes.
I'm on the East Coast.
But yeah, I'll send you a DM, and I don't know, maybe I'll visit soon or vice versa.
Just don't be awkward.
I hate that LLLJK.
I don't really care.
But yeah, dub Brian, do yoga.
Sauna helps me with pan.
Yeah, I actually, at my other place, I have an infrared sauna.
I was going in almost every single day, but I've kind of pulled back recently.
I should try to get back to doing it every single day.
But yeah, I'll do a 20, 25 minutes sauna session.
I go in the pool almost every single day.
I'll go in for an hour.
Sometimes I try to do two hours.
Computer work doesn't help, and a lot of what I do is I sit at the computer.
I have a standing, I'll try to stand too, but I need a team.
What I would ideally like is I have a team around me where everything is taken care of.
I just come in and host, and then that's it.
And then I can do preparation for the show, because honestly, I wing these shows.
There's always like some last-minute thing, either tech issue or like trying to procure guests for the show, where I don't have time to like, okay, let me just do a deep dive in everyone's profiles.
Let me see who the guests are.
Let me see if there's anything I can talk about.
And then let me actually prepare like 10 questions for the show.
Let me do some catch up on reading in terms of like my debating and argumentation.
yeah so ryan says why doesn't shanai read me Modern unbiased science says that red meat is extremely healthy.
Eating saturated fat doesn't cause heart disease.
Eating processed food, sugars, and seed oils causes it.
I just truly don't prefer Lucy Burger.
Francois de Clerc, okay.
Yeah, I just don't prefer the taste.
I'd much rather have a turkey burger or turkey burger.
Ew.
Are you crazy?
I've never had a turkey burger.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Okay, when you make steaks, I'll make you a turkey burger because I make a really good turkey burst.
There is no such thing.
That is an oxymoron.
There is no such thing.
I've not had my turkey burger.
I don't care.
I don't care.
There's no such thing as a good turkey burger.
Yes, there are no.
There is no such thing.
I'm sorry.
Brian, you're upsetting the baby.
Upsetting the baby.
Good.
That baby deserves the trauma.
There is no such thing as a good turkey burger.
There is.
Brothers, I'm sorry, but like.
It's so good.
You have to season it.
I don't want to taste like turkey.
Oh, my God.
You have to season it.
Did it taste like ground turkey?
No.
Oh.
Oh my god.
Red flag if she likes turkey burgers.
Such a red flag.
It was a soft tissue tumor that was removed in 2018, came back and they removed my entire right leg in 2020.
Holy fuck.
No hope for prosthetic leg.
I walk with crutches.
I feel my leg, but not in a normal way.
24-7, harsh nerve pain.
I'm so sorry.
Fuck, man.
Can I recommend?
I don't know.
Maybe you've already looked into this, but if I can recommend a book for you, and maybe you've already explored this, because I mean, it sounds like you've been dealing with this for a long time.
I'm sure you've probably done everything you can to tackle the pain.
Maybe you haven't stumbled upon this, though.
If I can recommend, there's a couple books, but Think Away Your Pain.
I know it sounds fucking like woo-woo, whatever, but it's written by a medical doctor.
And I do think there is a psychological component to some pain.
Maybe you've already looked into it.
So it's Think Away Your Pain by Dr. David Schechter, I think.
And then there's another book called Back in Control from an orthopedic surgeon who was a back surgeon.
And that's called, yeah, it's called Back in Control by Dr. David Hanscombe.
That one's longer.
I recommend the audiobook.
Think away your pain's a little shorter of a read.
You can get the audiobooks, get it on Audible.
I'm not sponsored, just my recommendation.
Maybe you've already tried to tackle the psychosomatic angle to pain, but it's tough, though.
You had a legitimate structural issue.
So it might be worth looking into.
I recommend.
But yeah.
I found it very helpful for my pain.
Victor.
Francois de Clerc.
Lil.
My name is Victor.
That super chat was dropped when you asked, big rugby fan.
I actively play in SoCal.
Oh, shit.
Hell yeah, dude.
Victor, what position do you play?
I want to guess.
I feel like you're a forward.
I want to guess that you play.
Is Flanker seven, if I recall?
I think you're a seven.
Let me know.
Are you a seven?
Is that Flanker?
I think.
Thank you, man.
Francois de Clerc.
Who's the other really good?
I love the South African rugby names.
There's like, fuck, I'm trying to think.
Francois Stein is another one.
And then there's, shit, who's the other?
I can't there.
I'm blanking, we'll move.
We'll move on.
You're doing God work here, Brian.
He's either saying, thank you, I see you really care about your fellow men.
A lot of guys out here struggling.
Screw the reaction.
Like Tate said, you can only get canceled, if you allow it.
I'm East Coast but I always gotta watch.
Hey, Magnus Rex, thank you man, you're up super late.
Really appreciate you staying up late.
To you know, catch the after show and watch the shows, really appreciate it.
I know I know a lot of you are like Brian.
You should try to start the shows early or at least start them on time, because I know a lot of you on the East Coast.
So if we started at seven, it's 10 p.m.
Over there, but I wish I could start them on time.
But a lot of times people are kind of late and then sometimes yeah, a lot of times people are late and then I'm always dealing with some things last minute and so also, like I would, maybe I might want to start trying to get the shows out at 6 p.m.
Instead of 7 p.m.
Pacific.
So, thank you man, didn't it used to be that?
No, it's always been seven.
All right, there's such a good thing as a Turk, as a good turkey burger.
It just can never compare to a regular burger.
Erroneous, erroneous wait, by the way.
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
It's definitely different.
I'm not saying that a turkey burger is better or the same as, but you know for sure is different.
I'll make a good one.
Wait, hold on just one sec.
I think let's add, um, you know what?
Was there a Tate one recently pull up Tate again, the TATE, THE TATE Super Chat.
I'm gonna add Tate to the panel here.
do you like hold on i got another one oh my god sorry wait shania shania can you give tate a kiss hold on yeah give him a kiss sorry he's gonna disappear quick wait can you give him like a handy shania don't ask her my hands are full with precious get the auto blow get the auto blow here
okay by the way do you guys what about the question guys is um is this one kind of obnoxious do it holy shit just do it a little bit don't let your dreams be dreams yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true just wow do it
some people dream of success while you're gonna wake up and work hard at it nothing is impossible i i want to pull this up where anyone else when when someone refuses to answer a question i'm gonna pull this up every time do it like Like when girls are like lying about their age or like I'm trying to think of an example where I could bring it up.
Do girls like actually do that on your like?
Yeah, we've had girls lie about that.
And then I also have this one.
Do it!
Just do it!
Answer the body count question.
Just do it!
Okay.
Oh wow, tonight's the first time we didn't do our body count.
Oh yeah, we didn't talk about body counts now.
Okay, we can do it.
Oh, we should have hidden that one.
Oh, fuck, whatever.
All right.
All right, the guy with the facial tattoos and sometimes braided pink hair.
He's extremely truthful in his music, and it's a breath of fresh air to all the rest of the music I hear.
I do not like rap, but I love his music.
Oh, yeah, he's I've seen his music videos.
He's like super based.
And you wouldn't expect, like, based off of how he looks, you wouldn't expect it.
Oh, shit, I should put it back.
My bad.
Based off of how he looks, you wouldn't expect it.
But yeah, Tom McDonald, he's super talented.
Like his stuff.
I think this is the last super chat of the night.
Your last ones in, boys.
All right.
I want in and out.
Shania, the way you holding that baby is giving off big mom vibes.
We would be perfect.
You grab the things off the shelf, off the top shelf.
I carry all the groceries inside with one.
Brooks in number four, but I also switched jerseys, depending.
Number four?
So that.
Okay.
So you're front.
Is four front row?
Wait, four?
How tall are you?
Because number four usually is like a really tall dude because number four does the throw-ins, right?
Or wait, no.
Well, he does want D1.
No, Sorry, number four is not the throw-in.
Usually it's number a front row or some number one or two or something who will do the throw-in.
But number four is the tall guy who will catch the throw-in.
So I'm confused.
Okay, whatever.
God.
Is this the last one?
I don't think anyone's sending anymore.
Okay.
If you guys want, get your last minute super chats in here.
Let's go.
We'll answer every question.
No matter what.
What the f- Bro.
Don't tempt them with a good time.
Oh, there we go.
Here, I'll pull it up.
Oh, it hasn't populated yet.
While we wait for that.
Can you kiss him, Shania?
Can you punch him?
I can't.
My hands are full.
Oh, just throw the baby or something.
That's so rude.
It's a doll.
By the way, that's the baby.
If anyone's curious, that's the baby from my prank.
Oh, actually, we should.
Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever and drop us a prime sub in the follow if you have one.
Wait, what?
I've never actually watched your prank videos.
That's the one from the flyaway baby prank and the drowning baby prank.
Wow, those were the days.
Okay, we have Alex.
Can you read this one?
Brian, you're getting to a point where you'll need to add legitimate arm security.
Even in Cali, you can be armed in a BLDG you rent.
Avoid talking about it beyond saying it's their higher X SOF guys only.
We do good, lol.
Yeah, I do think we should get security soon because of the size of the podcast, the fact that we're doing it in California, the fact that we're, you know, a little controversial, a bit of a controversial show.
We have to kick people off now.
I think it's time to get some security.
Tom McDonald is the real goat-based MVP.
Thank you, Selena.
I play lock and prop.
Also, Shania, I'm not hearing a no.
How tall are you?
How tall are these children going to be?
Lock and...
Oh, yeah, it's prop.
Props are the, wait.
Prop is three?
Prop is one of the first three, and lock is four.
Acupuncture.
I'm actually going to have my first acupuncture appointment this week or wait, maybe next week.
I'm trying to remember.
I think next week, yeah.
I'm going to try it.
I heard it helps.
Oh, is this the capture the flag thing?
Wait, do you want to read this?
Did you see the whole Shia versus 4chan event?
That was crazy.
Also, you should get Tim Poole on the show.
I know Chase did his podcast.
Yeah, I was invited on Tim Pool, but this was like a couple months ago.
I don't know if the invite still stands.
I was just so busy.
I didn't have time.
But I'd be down.
I'm good.
I'm tight.
Well, Mary's been on and she's with Tim Cass.
Brian, I think you need a Swedish conservative guy to join the table sometime.
Also, Shania, how about a Swedish husband?
Dentaler Intasvenska?
You're such a pick-me, Shania.
Yeah.
People are saying I can't read well.
I'm just on one break.
It's late, yeah.
It's 12.43 in the morning.
Yeah, just really quick.
Yeah, I did see the capture the flag thing.
That was so funny.
Where they like, it was the you will not divide us thing, right?
Or he will not divide us.
And then they like, then he had the flag and he had to keep moving it because these guys would like triangulate where the flag was and like steal his flag.
That shit was so funny.
All right, if you have a dead seat like today, provide alcohol.
Shout out to the raw dogs in Cambodia.
Sweet, sweet.
Good times.
Raw dogs in Cambodia?
That's a Euro, though.
I'm confused.
Provide alcohol to the dead seat.
I don't want to.
I don't want to provide alcohol because then the last thing you want is someone saying, oh, he got us liquored up and like, I said some stupid shit.
And I don't want that.
So, yeah, we don't provide any alcohol to the guests beforehand because we don't want like, oh, I said something and they intentionally got us drunk.
Yeah, we don't want that.
And I'm not a drinker myself.
So, yeah, especially.
And then also, like, we have guests that are not 21.
So if incidentally a 21-year-old is drinking, then that's a whole under-21-year-old is drinking.
That's a whole nother can of worms.
Hey, man.
Sky Patrol, thank you.
And thank you for all your support and your patronage, man.
Really appreciate it.
Do you speak French?
Are you in the Canadian-speaking part of the French-speaking part of Canada?
Quebecois?
Thank you, man.
Really appreciate it.
Check out that book, by the way.
I'm 5'9, but I'm also the shortest male in my family.
I just got the stocky jeans.
But yeah, Brian, I can only play 15s, and I switch between the 3- and 4 jersey depending on who's playing.
You're 5'9 and you play 4?
How does that...
I mean, there's no way in professional...
maybe you're playing like on a small city team um but there's n plus we're in the u.s so i feel like there's less people playing rugby but But dude, rugby is fucking hardcore.
I actually kind of, I enjoy it more than American football because it's like the pace is faster.
There's not breaks.
Like, there's just a continuity of play, which is really cool about rugby.
I like American football too, but rugby is pretty fucking dope.
And I think it's catching a bit of steam in the U.S.
So, yeah, and rugby, rugby union.
I don't like, I don't really follow sevens or league.
So, thank you, man.
I think that's it.
And then Sky Patrol is in British Columbia.
Okay, I think that's it.
Let's wrap up.
It's late.
I want to try to snag in and out, but I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it.
Yeah, probably not.
It's scuffed.
Fuck it.
Okay.
All right, guys.
I think, let me just check one last thing.
Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
Drop us a follow and drop us a prime sub if you have one.
And big, big shout out to Madison and Shania for sticking around for the after show.
Really appreciate it.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Yeah, thank you for coming back.
And yeah, guys, hope you guys have a good night.
We're going to be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
Go subscribe to us, youtube.com slash nevermind.
Drop us a sub on there.
Let's get us to 100K on there.
Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Really appreciate all your support, guys.
I'll read this last super chat and then we'll say goodbye.
Okay, let's see.
Sky Patrol.
Thank you.
I'm still waiting for this other one to pop up.
Oh, do spam youtube.com slash nevermind.
EOG, thank you, man.
Brian, thanks for hosting this type of content.
Wish you stream more often, would give more awesome content to listen to while driving across the country.
OTR trucker?
Off the road?
Trucker?
What does OTR stand for?
But yo, EOG, I just want to, and to anybody who works, I mean, trucking is a very specific thing.
You're in transport, but anyone who's like in the trades, who's like working on an oil derrick, who's a who's a, what's the, on the road, trucker, over the road.
You know, I have so much respect for men who work in a trade or who truckers.
Like society would break down if there weren't men doing these sorts of jobs.
So what I know some people get down on themselves.
Like I genuinely have so much respect for people who do jobs like that, who are truckers, who are work on oil rigs, roughnecks, roughnecks, iron workers, whatever it may be.
You are the backbone of society.
You guys are what makes society function.
If we didn't have truckers, if we didn't have all these people, and a lot of people like want to hate on the fucking, I don't know.
It just bothers me that like a lot of this feminism shit is just such a contempt for men.
Sorry, I was just about to end the show, but now you got me going.
Instead of demonizing men, we ought to be show a little more appreciation.
Like no offense to the ladies here, but like men play such a significant role in the fuck, what's the word?
In society running smoothly.
You know, we, in terms of, fuck, I'm like on my last brain cell here, guys.
I'm blanking on the term, but you know, the I don't know.
Guys, I'm sorry.
I'm so tired.
I'm so tired.
We need to go to bed.
Yeah, but like it just, it bothers me that there's you hear like male privilege and all these terms and how you know men are like the enemy and the patriarchy and all this stuff.
And I don't think there's enough appreciation of men because truly if all men disappeared, it would be fucking chaos.
It'd be chaos.
Society would collapse within 72 hours if all men disappeared.
And it's men like you who are doing the necessary work to keep society functioning that I'm sorry.
I'm losing my train of thought.
I'm sorry, guys.
I got a headache.
Okay, but you're a fucking legend.
Thank you for what you do to keep society functioning.
Thank you, man.
Because look, if truckers, am I stoned right now?
What the fuck?
If truckers were gone, how do you transport food?
How do you transport oil and gas?
Truckers are such a fucking essential part of the economy and society functioning.
Bro, I'll know where I'm going with it.
I'm sorry.
Bro, you're a fucking legend.
Keep trucking, brother.
We don't need more YouTubers.
We need more fucking people that are going to do the jobs that is mad.
Okay, man.
He's trolling me now.
Okay.
Okay, last one.
I really appreciate your show.
I'm glad I found it.
And I will be tuning in as much as humanly possible truck driver from Chicago.
Infrastructure.
Thank you.
Infrastructure is the word I'm going for.
The infrastructure would fucking crumble if all men disappeared.
Everything, bro.
Okay, think of like the water infrastructure, gas, heating, all this shit.
Okay, let me collect my thoughts.
I'll have it more.
I'll be more articulate next show.
Wait, did we read this one?
Yeah.
Yeah, I just read it.
Thank you, Pip.
He really is on one brain cell.
Go get some sleep, guys.
Love ya.
Love y'all too.
Next show, you should hand the baby dolls to the girls and see who holds them like a mother would.
I think that's a tell.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, if I just, you know what?
I should crack one of these windows open and just like mid-show, like, toss one of the babies out the windows.
But no, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
They're fake babies.
But that'd be interesting.
Get a reaction.
Just like toss.
Toss it off.
Holy shit.
Just toss a baby at one of the people.
Like, all right, show us your instincts.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
We'll be live again Sunday at I need actually I need to get up to stop the stream We will be live Sunday at 7 p.m. East or yeah Pacific my bad.
We will see you guys.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah, I'll go over there and stop the stream.
You guys can do an outro.
But Sunday 7 p.m. Pacific.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
Thank you for all the support.
Have a good night, guys.
All right.
Thank you for being on the after show.
I hope you guys like today's special guest.
And we will see you guys on Sunday.
Bye.
Bye.
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