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June 4, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #46

Dating Talk is LIVE on youtube.com/whateverSunday & Tuesday at 7:00 PM Pacific Time

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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California, every Sunday and Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific, sometime 7:30 p.m. Pacific.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
She's a bit shy.
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We had something like four or five people flake.
So Kiko didn't flake, though.
No, I did not.
No, she did not.
Welcome back, Kiko.
We were going to have Hensley.
I don't know if you remember Hensley.
She was going to be on tonight, but she bailed, unfortunately.
She got married.
Oh, I just, I was going to save that for the next time she comes on the show.
To a woman.
Yeah.
That was surprising to me.
Why was that surprising when she came on the podcast to talk about how she wanted to use and show men how they are terrible beings?
Yeah, she's laughing.
Surprising that she's right.
Come to think of it, you might be onto something.
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So without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
Go ahead.
Okay, I'm Kiko.
I'm 22.
I'm a bartender and I'm a sociology major at UCSB.
Hello, I'm Jordan.
I am 20 and I am a waitress.
Hi, my name is Day.
I go to UC Santa Barbara and I'm studying and doing research in biology.
Hi, I'm Damiana.
I'm 22.
I'm a bartender, and I'm not currently in school.
I'm Tara.
I'm a senior at UCSB studying philosophy and psychology and doing research in psych.
Hi, I am Taylor.
I'm 28 and I'm a YouTuber, baby.
Don't forget, TikToker.
TikToker.
Instagrammer.
I advocate for men's mental health.
Oh, you've seen her.
I thought it was just maybe like, I don't know.
I was just tripping.
Okay.
Good times.
Good times.
All right, guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
Show them some love.
Give them a follow.
And yeah, so we're going to go around the table once more.
So what is your current relationship status, your longest relationship?
And are you on any dating apps that does include seeking?
It's not seeking arrangements anymore.
Seeking.
So go ahead.
I am single right now.
My longest relationship was like two and a half years.
And I'm on Hinge.
When was your last relationship?
I've been single since like about April, March.
Okay.
I am currently in a relationship.
It's our two-year anniversary is tomorrow, actually.
Oh, okay.
Well, there you go.
I'm currently single.
My longest relationship was about six years.
For some parts of that, we weren't together, but yeah, six years.
I am single.
I am on Hinge.
And my longest relationship was almost four years, and we were engaged.
Yes.
I'm Tara.
I'm single.
My longest relationship was a year, and I'm not on any dating apps.
I'm single.
My longest relationship was six years, and I hate dating.
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Okay, so a lot of you said you were single, right?
Just you.
You have a boyfriend, correct?
Okay.
And remind me, how long were you?
Are you two years now?
Two years.
Okay.
So of those of you who said you were single, are you truly single?
Yes.
Yes.
Come on.
Come on.
100%.
Come on.
I'm literally 100% single.
But are you talking to a guy right now?
Are you going to go to the next stage?
No, I'm not hooking up with anybody talking.
Literally, maybe this meeting, this guy started messaging like yesterday.
Probably will stop by tomorrow.
Oh, is it the guy that you showed me who was shit talking about?
What's his name?
Adam Adrian.
Okay.
He might be in the chat.
I would honestly be surprised if he's not.
What would he have to do in the chat to get a because he was talking shit to you because he saw the show, but then he was like trying to hit on you too, right?
Yeah.
What would you have to do to get a date with you?
Fly me out to the UK, that's where he lives, and then give me a two-week stay so I can travel a part of Europe and then take me around.
That's the way he can make it up to me for harassing me for two months straight.
Oh, harassing?
Okay, he's been harassing you.
Good times.
Good times.
By the way, guys, if any women want to be on the show, we are looking for new.
Yeah, you'll get some.
Okay, so, okay, so what about you?
I just go on dates.
Sorry.
I just go on dates.
When's the last time you were on a date?
That's a good question.
Yeah, when's the last time you were on a date?
I don't know, maybe a couple weeks ago.
I'm on Hinge and Tinder, and I let men court me and take me out.
You let men court you and take you out.
Have you ever courted a guy?
I mean, I guess I've like shot my shot, but I've never been like, I'm taking you out here.
Yeah, that's okay.
Be ready by eight.
Like, no.
Okay.
Okay.
And when was your last date?
Date.
What is a date anyway?
Yeah, it's hard to define.
Let's say I feel like.
Let's say the last time you met up with a guy one-on-one.
First time meeting.
Since before the pandemic.
I swear to God.
Come on.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
I am like anything.
Wait, okay, before the pandemic?
Yes.
But you were in a room.
I started dating my ex-boyfriend like a couple months before the pandemic hit.
We were together until March of this past year, and I haven't gone on a real date since then, no.
Since March of 2022?
I went on dates with my ex-boyfriend when we were together, but since a first date, like a first date with a stranger?
No, I haven't done that since before the pandemic.
Since before the pandemic?
Like 2019.
You and your boyfriend broke up in March.
Yes.
This most recent March.
Yes.
Okay.
So you've been on dates.
Have you been celibate?
No.
Well, I mean, that's kind of.
It counts.
That's like a date.
So you're sleeping around no dates?
Yeah.
I was sleeping with girls and I wasn't really interested in dates.
You've only slept with girls since your...
I have slept with one man.
One man?
Okay.
One time or multiple times?
Multiple times.
Okay.
But no longer.
No.
Why did he kind of dump you?
He didn't.
Oh, that's a great assumption.
My bad.
Okay.
So some girls.
You seeing any girls currently?
No.
No girls.
Well, you two are roommates, so I want you guys to rat on each other.
If one of them caps.
Am I lying?
Nope.
If anybody's caps.
But so your last date you said was a couple weeks ago.
Yeah.
Okay.
And there seems to be some discrepancy between a date, but then you can also like, you can hook up with a guy and it not be considered a date.
I genuinely think a date is anything where one person plans something.
It could be a picnic.
It can be going out to dinner, a movie.
Anything where somebody is putting in effort and inviting you to come and enjoy you as their company.
That's a date to me.
Okay.
So could you, for example, let's say a guy said, come over at like 10 p.m.
I'm not saying you would, but would you consider that to be a date if you did go over?
Have you guys ever done that though?
Yes, of course.
The come over.
Okay.
But okay, so for you, you're single, kind of.
Allegedly.
I mean, I talk to people, but I'm definitely single.
When's the last time you went on a date?
I mean, yeah, I guess it depends on your definition of a date.
I could say last week or I could say like a few months ago.
I mean, the last time I went like out on a date with someone, the way that you were describing it, like they invite you somewhere, you do something.
I mean, probably a month or two.
What's the other definition of a date?
I'm like a hookup.
I don't agree with either of those.
That's why it's called a hookup, though.
That's not a date.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, I don't know.
I guess it just depends on what you're talking about.
To me, a date, a few months for sure.
Yeah, if a guy's not asking you out, like, you know, hey, let's go out to eat, or I picked you out a dress, it's not a date.
If he's just fucking you, you're like, you know, or, you know, you're basically ran through some of the things.
Okay, definitely not a date.
Yes, wrong definition.
But yeah, I would say a few months since like an actual date.
Okay.
Yes.
Tara?
Is the question last time you went on a date?
Yeah.
Or did a hookup, we'll say.
I went on a first date last week.
That's it.
Yeah, he's definitely watching right now.
Oh, he's watching.
Oh, God.
Was there a subsequent date, or it's just been one?
I saw him again after he came.
He lives far away.
He's in Ventura.
So it's kind of like a distance.
So it's hard to see each other.
Did you talk about this dude last time?
Nope.
Is this like the server dude or whatever?
No.
It's not the bartender.
She's like, it's a new one.
What is up with you and dating men that don't live within a 30-mile 30 minutes?
It's not my preference.
I don't know.
It just happened like that.
But why date someone so far?
Ventura's like, guys, Ventura's 45 minutes away, 40, 45 minutes away.
Damn.
That's not the far.
That's not on the far.
You're going to commute 45 minutes.
Yeah, well, I mean, things are different now because I totaled my car.
So.
Oh, no.
Even more.
Yeah, I take the bus to work and everything.
Even more reason to not date someone.
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, but I was, yeah, yeah, I guess.
I mean, I would, if he, if he's willing to like drive to see me, I don't, you know, I don't know what the problem is.
Okay, all right.
What about you, Tay?
What about you?
So I actually don't do hookups.
I don't believe in that stuff at all.
Last person I messed around with was my ex, so yeah.
Okay.
Much with me, so good times.
Good times.
Okay.
So question.
Question.
I don't know why I'm pausing to build suspense.
It's not even a good question.
What are your base standards?
What am I what?
Base standards for a guy.
My base standards.
Base standards.
So like for me to go on a date with a date.
It could be physical, it could be personality, it could be character.
For me to go on a date with them?
Is that the question?
Just in general.
Well, like.
What are you looking for in a guy?
I suppose, yes, for a date, but I mean, for someone that you would partner with.
I don't know, because I'm not looking to partner with anyone right now.
Why?
Because I was in a relationship majority of my college, a lot of the last few years of my life.
I haven't learned how to be single and be alone.
And I need to work on myself and rectify some things I have going on before I start giving attention to another person.
Okay.
So that's why I'm not really going on dates and stuff.
Are you on the dating app right now?
I'm on Hinge.
Hold on.
So you're on Hinge, but you're not trying to date right now?
Because I'm thinking, like, I don't know.
I'm confused.
And it's okay to be confused about certain things in life.
Like, damn, this podcast acts like you have to have everything lined up in your life.
Well, it's just because like, yeah, maybe I might want to go out and like experience some things, you know, but I don't think right now I am ready for, and also I've never even met anybody from a dating app.
Like, I've had these dating apps for years, and I've never actually met anybody.
Like, it's the only person I've ever met from a dating app is because he came into my job and was like, oh, hey, we matched on Tinder.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Okay, we probably never would have met if you didn't just come to my job and see me, you know?
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
What's your definition of healing?
Because you said healing, but then you said you were hooking up with a whole bunch of people.
I'm not.
I never said I was hooking up a whole bunch of people.
So I said, you said girls and then one guy.
Yeah, so two girls and one guy since March.
If you're healing, so what are you doing to heal?
I'm just asking.
I said not healing, but I said I have to work on some stuff.
Like, so for a moment, I was in between houses and stuff.
I didn't think there was a reason to be dating if I'm in between homes and stuff.
Two, it's just I want to learn how to be single.
I've been in a relationship since I was basically 16 years old, hopping to the next person, the next person, the next person.
I want to give myself some time because I know right now I couldn't probably love somebody the way they want to be loved.
So I don't even want to put somebody else in that position.
Got you.
Again, you missed my question.
What are you doing exactly to heal?
I'm not.
I'm not trying to heal.
Okay.
Is the point I'm trying to make.
Okay.
Wait.
Your base standards for a guy.
I don't know, because I guess my base standards is I would expect somebody to have a job, have a car, and do something, like have some type of physical activity that they do besides their job, not just like they go to work and then they sit at home all day after.
Like either if they like to go to the gym or like to go hiking or something of the sorts and a strong family relationship.
Facts.
Because I don't really have one.
So I would, I want, it's a big, it's important for me if I have a family that the other side can help with that.
Okay.
So you said they got to be physically active, they got to have...
Physically active in a way that it's shown that if you just sit inside, you just go to work and just fucking loathe after, you're not going to be a truly functioning member of society.
So I want, it doesn't have to be like, you have to be a gym rat, like super fit or anything.
I'm just saying like they have some hobby besides like hopefully not just gaming all day or something.
Oh, gaming.
They could game if they want, but they have their like, you know.
You know, you know, I might actually have a guy for you.
Carson, can I have you pull up?
It's an Instagram tab on over here.
It should already be in the browser.
Just look for one of the Instagram tabs.
It should be a picture of a dude.
It's his profile of a dude.
Oh, wait, F11, F11.
Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, wait.
Scroll back up, scroll back up.
Okay, that's good.
Scroll down just a TID.
Tid?
What do you think about, like, would you, we'll go around the table on this.
Oh, I don't know.
Did this person consent to have their profile on you?
Bro, what's with the buzzkill over here?
Okay.
Well, I don't want to roast somebody who's like just a random person.
He's about rowing.
Don't worry about it.
Okay.
Oh.
So around the table, what do you guys think about this guy?
Like, would you date him?
It's not my personal type.
I wouldn't picture us coming into contact into a form where a date would ever be the end thing.
I don't ever see us having a, I don't know.
I'm good.
Would you date?
Absolutely not.
Carson, you can scroll down a little bit on that.
What about you?
Would you date him?
Personally, not my type, but there's somebody for everybody.
You're right.
Yeah, he's not really my type, but I see how he could be like funny, and he seems like he has a big personality.
I'm sure he's there for somebody.
Tara?
No, probably not.
But my guess, sorry to ruin your bit, but my guess is you're going to tell us that this guy's actually ultra-billionaire YouTube champion of the video game champion of the world or something.
Carson, you can scroll.
I don't know.
I feel like that's what you're gonna wear.
It doesn't matter.
The subscriber count doesn't change what he looks like.
I love white boys, but like colored eyed white boys.
So no offense, not fully my type.
Just being honest.
Gotcha.
Carson, scroll all the way up.
Okay, so this guy's, his name's Asmund Gold.
He's a Twitch streamer.
He's got 100K followers on Instagram, but on Twitch, he's big.
He's one of the top streamers on Twitch.
I think he's probably making several million dollars a year.
Millionaire several times over.
And so, yeah.
Nobody?
Rich.
Good dude.
You should see his last girlfriend.
She had...
Hold on.
Oh, my God.
So, no go for any of you?
No, thank you.
Super successful, makes money.
Money doesn't change it for me.
At least maybe.
I've got to be attracted to you.
He's a really cool guy, too.
I feel like it's hard to say I would or wouldn't date someone just based off of their profile that they would be.
Like, I mean, yeah, if he had a super dope personality and he's a personality.
Maybe laugh, he'd be different.
Okay.
No go.
I think personality.
He has a car.
Okay, he has a car.
He has a job.
That's a plus nowadays, for sure.
Oh, the bar is in hell.
No, it's sad.
There's so many guys that don't have cars.
Like, I don't.
You don't only date him now because he has a car?
Dave?
No, no!
Color is just my foot.
I agree with you in the sense that I don't want to date a girl that doesn't have a car.
Yeah.
I feel like, for me, at least.
Am I like undatable now that I totaled my car?
It's the biggest turnoff.
Well, I mean, I think guys probably care about it less, but for me, I'm just, it's kind of, I'm just lazy.
I don't want to be your chauffeur.
Yeah.
I don't want to drive you around everywhere.
I can, this trainer is going to be a little bit more.
Oh, hide it.
Hide it.
Carson, hide it.
My sprinkler goes like this.
Comes back into me.
I don't need to sweet it when your cat wakes you up like this.
Meow.
Meow.
Yeah, but by the way, Carson, for the TTS stuff, 50 and up, just let it do TTS.
You don't have to show the super chat, but we will pull it back up.
Joel Taggart, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Okay, so Asmund Gold, no go.
Okay, that's unfortunate.
Unfortunate.
But yeah.
So, okay.
Okay, hold on.
What's up?
How can the British Patriot literally say gold digger alert when none of us were even changing our answers?
That's like, that makes no fucking sense.
That was actually dumb as hell.
I didn't even see that comment.
Well, I did.
Well, thank you for pointing it out, Kiko.
That was good.
You're welcome.
Carson, can I have you pull up?
There's a TikTok tab open.
We're going to react to that.
You will not play the video.
Okay, so let's see.
You might need to hide us just so I can read it really quick.
Carson, in the sources tab, do you see where it says GH5 Center?
Click the eyeball really quick just to hide us.
Perfect.
All right, so this is a TikTok I saw of this girl for some reason.
My TikTok is mostly Asian women in Canada for some reason.
I don't know why.
That's what you like.
The algorithm.
The algorithm.
Anyways, the shorties, we're not going to play the video, but there's not much else to it.
The shorties who have to lie about their heights on dating apps, y'all can sit this one out.
And then the description, too many 5'11s capping on Hinge right now.
And Carson, can you just hit the eyeball again on the GH5?
Other one?
Other one.
Hide the other one.
There you go.
All right.
So do you guys think it's wrong if a guy hides, or sorry, doesn't hide, if a guy lies about his height on a dating app?
It's just weird as fuck because if your point is to meet people off the dating app, what are you going to do?
It's like, I think it's weird as hell if I have friends who overly edit their photos and use like FaceApp and all this stuff.
I'm like, what do you do when you meet a dude or somebody in person and they can't even recognize you damn near?
Or like you're saying you're six foot and you walk up to me and you're shorter than me or something.
Like it's not even that big of a deal, but now it is because you're lying off rip already.
Like that's just weird.
Okay.
What do you think?
Yeah, I just would want them to be honest.
I would hate to date a short guy.
There you go.
Wild that TikTok.
Wait, okay, you would hate to date a short guy?
Yeah.
I'm not about the shortcuts.
How tall are you?
I'm just 5'5, but my boyfriend's like 6'2, so I've got a type.
That's an exaggeration.
Okay, so you're 5'5 ⁇ , your boyfriend's 6'2.
Do you have a bare minimum height?
Like 6'0 ⁇ .
6 feet, bare minimum?
Yeah.
And we'll go around on this really quick, and then we'll also get your reaction to the TikTok.
So height, bare minimum height.
For a man or a woman?
Man.
I used to always say my height, but I've ran into issues where, I really don't care, but I like to wear platform shoes.
I like to have big chunky shoes on all the time, and they do start getting their feelings hurt sometimes when I'm taller than them on the daily, and I just don't want to deal with that.
I don't really care.
I can give a shit less how tall they are.
So your height or taller?
Yeah.
I don't think I would be too into a man who's like 5' or something.
That's a little crazy.
I'm 5'7, bro.
And how tall are you?
5'7.
Oh, 5'7.
Is somebody shaking the table right now?
It feels like there's inside.
It feels like they're too ADHD.
Can you guys just deep breath in?
Nicotina break.
Okay, what about you?
So first just react to the TikTok.
Do you have a would it be wrong for a guy to lie about his height on a dating app?
And just how tall are you?
And do you have a height preference?
I think that it would be weird for you to lie on a dating app because I'm gonna meet, I would think it's weird for you to lie on a dating app because I'm gonna meet you in person and I honestly do not care about height.
Just, I mean, it would be cool if the guy I was dating is taller than me, but I also date women and I don't care.
How tall are you?
5'5.
Okay.
Got it.
And you've had a boyfriend before, correct?
Yes.
How tall was he?
He was six foot.
Have you had other boyfriends too?
No.
Just the one boyfriend?
And wait, going back to you, how tall was your last boyfriend?
5'8.
Okay.
Maybe a half on that.
And you said your boyfriend's 6'2, correct?
Yeah.
What about any previous boyfriends or is this your first relationship?
No, I've had a previous boyfriend.
Yeah.
How tall?
How tall was he?
He was like 5'8 ⁇ .
Oh, okay.
Okay.
All right.
That was way back then.
Sure.
I mean, I think it's kind of weird to be lying about that, but I mean, if it's only an inch or two off, if you're saying you're six foot and you're 5'11, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
It's weird, but I can see how for some women it really is the difference between if I'm going to swipe on you or not, whether you say you're 5'11 or 6'0.
I would definitely prefer to date a guy who's like 6' But I'm 5'4.
I'm short.
My ex that I was with for four years, he was 5'7, and it was fine.
We made it work, so I don't know.
Okay.
So is your standard just your height or taller or a game?
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't.
Well, I mean, maybe like 5'7 and taller.
I don't want you to be like that.
Okay, so three inches or taller.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
And so, okay, you're 5'4, your last boyfriend, you said he was 6' correct?
No, no.
I mean, that's what my preference is for.
He's 25'7.
Yeah, and he was short.
And people said it all the time that we looked the same height, but I don't really care that much.
Okay.
I noticed it when people pointed it out.
Okay.
But you do think it's wrong if a guy were to lie about his height on the dating app?
I mean, if it's like an inch or two, yeah, I really don't see the big deal.
What if it's like 5'11 to 6'1?
I mean, you should just say 6-foot.
I feel like.
Yeah, why 6'1?
Yeah, I think it's stupid.
I'll get to that.
I guess I wouldn't judge you super.
I might make fun of you if I realized that, but I don't think it would be like an end-all-be-all for me.
Like, oh, you lied about two fucking inches.
You're out of here.
Like, sure.
I don't.
Well, yeah, anyway.
Maybe another side.
I don't know.
Okay, Tara.
I don't think I have a strong opinion.
Like, I don't know.
I don't think it's.
I don't think it's wrong.
Yeah.
I don't think it's wrong.
But I feel like, I know that I do care, though, about height, honestly.
You care about height?
Okay.
Yeah, not like a ton, but my minimum is probably like 5'10, maybe.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Would you think it's a red flag if he lied, or you just like don't care?
Well, I'm not on dating apps, so it's not something that would affect me.
That's one of the, like, not, that's like, that's not the reason I'm not on dating apps, but like a big reason I don't use dating apps is because I just, I always think it's important to see how you connect with them in person.
Otherwise, like, it doesn't really matter.
They lied to you, like, before they even met you.
Would that bother you or no?
Yeah, no, that totally would.
I like recently had there was a guy I just went on that like first date with.
I found out like lied to me about his age, which I feel like is super suspicious and like concerning.
So yeah, that's like my even itself.
Did you specify the age?
Like what did he say his age was and what his age is?
He, I was thinking maybe he was like 21, but then he tells me on his first date that he's 25.
Did he say he was 21 or did you assume he was 25?
I assumed he was like probably 21.
So you never knew his age?
I never knew his age.
No, he does lie.
We're getting there.
So I assumed he was like 21.
And then I like, we went on this first date, and then he told me he was 25.
And then I see him.
He comes into town.
I see him like downtown a couple days ago.
And he tells, he like meets my friends.
My friends ask him, like, how old are you?
And he's like, how old do you want me to be?
Like, he's really drunk or whatever.
And I was like, hi, he's 25.
And he's like, no, I'm 23.
And I was like, oh, you're 23?
Like, he told me you were 25.
And he's like, no, I'm actually 21.
Like, jokingly, lying by his age, but like straight up told my friends when they, I think he's 23.
I think he's 23.
He told, I honestly don't know for sure how old he is, but he told me on our date he was 25.
And I was like, I think I asked him later, I was like, why did you lie to me about your age?
And he was like, I thought it would, I thought I would seem cooler to you or something.
Did he think we have to ID our dates now?
I know, I know.
I know.
So that was.
No, you can lie about your age on gender and stuff.
It's crazy.
Wait, so okay, question about the age.
So initially he told you 21, correct?
No, no.
Initially, I, like, that was in my head.
Like, he kind of looked that age.
I was like, okay, maybe that's what he is.
What he told me on our first date was, I am 25.
And then he tells my friends when he meets them that he's 23.
And I think he's actually 23.
And told me that he was 25 because he wanted to seem.
Okay, so he lied up.
Yeah, he like.
Yeah.
He lied up, yeah.
I don't know.
I can't imagine you would have felt any differently if he was two years older than 20.
Yeah, I kind of feel I feel better knowing that he's like 23.
Because the older guy is, I feel like I would have higher expectations of maybe where he is in his life and whether he like uses his time wisely and is on like a, you know.
So I was actually, I like, probably would have preferred it knowing he was 23 based on where he is in life, I guess.
All right.
And anyways, that was like nearly a deal breaker because how am I ever like that's so that's such a like suspicious thing to do.
How can I literally ever trust like anything else like this person says?
What's that called when people just lie?
Just there's not really a purpose.
They just do it to do liar.
Yeah.
That just like what's the point?
I don't know.
That doesn't make any sense why he would do that.
I mean, he told me it's because he thought it would make him seem cooler to me.
I mean, that's already kind of a yikes.
It's already a yikes, but he admitted that is really embarrassing.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So are you still seeing him or no?
It's done.
I think it was, that was definitely a red flag.
And he was also drunk and like seeing someone, I don't know.
Yeah, there were just other like red flags that came up.
I don't know.
Is this the Ventura guy?
Yes.
Oh, the guy that you just went on a date with.
Yeah.
Am I missing something?
Yeah.
No, you're not missing anything.
Okay.
Yeah.
So what about you?
What's your reaction?
I agree with the rest of the ladies.
I don't like people who lie to me, especially in the beginning stages.
That's a tough one because I feel like women lie on dating apps as well.
So I don't know.
But yeah, I can't do the lying at all.
Just be honest.
If you're 5'11, 5'8, whatever, I'm cool with that.
But just be straight up from the jump because I'm not going to put myself as a white girl.
You see me on black.
Come on.
Oh, I thought I was about to.
I was about to quit because you said I'm a white girl.
No.
I was like, are you sure?
You got the opposite of whatever Michael Jackson had?
Is that a thing?
Can you have the opposite?
No.
I don't think so.
Vidal I go the other way?
No.
Okay.
I'm dead.
I'm dead.
Okay.
All right.
Wait, so okay, but just no, and then as far as height goes, what's your height and heights of last boyfriend?
I'm 5'8, and I think all my boyfriends were like only a two.
We're both 5'11.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
So kind of one of the reasons I asked this, and it was just interesting.
Actually, Carson, can you pull back up the TikTok clip really quick?
So here's the thing, right?
So, okay, she's talking about dudes capping on hinge, lying about their heights on dating apps.
I want you guys to look closely, though.
So this is on TikTok, right?
Look at her face.
that's a full face of makeup and a filter.
So...
Catfishing.
I'm like, I'm sure she's an attractive woman without all that, but, and we obviously don't have her dating app profiles.
Maybe all her photos on the dating app are no makeup, no filter.
Although, from my experience being on the dating apps, it's typically not the exception.
It's the rule that most of the photos on there, most women are using filters and makeup.
full face of makeup not not full face but and so to me it's just kind of interesting because you often hear complaints from women saying guys are lying about their height guys are lying about their height yet these very same women exhibit a are misrepresenting their facial features their physical appearance they're using filters they're photoshopping, they're fucking all this shit.
And it's just like, so I'm thinking, I'm listen, just for equality or whatever the fuck.
I think dudes should start lying about their age on dating apps.
Or age?
Oh, sorry.
My bad.
I was like, no, Tara.
Sorry.
Guys should start lying about their height.
Sorry, Tara's little thing about the age thing threw me off there.
I got my wires crossed.
Yeah, I think dudes should start lying about their height on dating apps.
Or we just all start being more real on dating apps.
You think makeup is a lie?
Makeup is 100% a lie.
I mean, I get filters, but makeup's a strong.
I feel like if you wear a full-face makeup every day, what's the problem with putting pictures on your dating app where you're wearing makeup?
That's how you present yourself every day.
The filters in Photoshop's different.
I'm sorry, but if a man cannot tell that I don't naturally have golden, shimmery eyelids and red lipstick, I feel like that's his issue, not mine.
I really do like her point, though.
Like, if a girl is like, yeah, besides the filters and the editing and stuff, makeup, if that's how she presents herself every single day, day in and day out, how is that not the woman that he's getting?
It'll be different if this girl is dressed like a bum 360 days a year and like five days she puts on the makeup and those are five days she has a picture on her profiles.
That would be a little different, but that's her day-to-day look.
That's her day-to-day look.
How can you tell her nobody else?
can you how can you tell her she don't look like that well i mean and also makeup helps enhance things that are it depends also what kind of makeup Are we talking like full like drag queen beat or like there's there's difference in between makeups that can change your features.
Not all makeup completely changes your features.
Sometimes it just makes whatever lighting from a photo that would mess up your features back to normal.
I can ask you a question.
So you've never in your life seen a girl completely different without makeup.
I have.
I used to do makeup.
I just, that's why I said there's a difference between like the drag queen, like, you know, layers of makeup versus like the more natural.
I understand where he's coming from because I wear makeup, but I do think that it is kind of like, because a lot of girls don't look the same without it.
And if you can't live in your natural self and you're sitting out here judging people for their height and things like that, you're not even living in your natural beauty.
And not just you guys and just in general.
And that's why I understand exactly where he's coming from with that.
And I get that too.
But then also a rebuttal to that is those girls who are doing the full beat down, like the kind of drag queeny makeup are probably going to attract men who like that, who like women who do that.
The men who like natural women aren't going to go for the ones who are wearing that drag queen beat.
And I can guarantee, like she said, if they don't know that they can't, you could usually see, come on, you could see that that's not what they look like.
You could see all that makeup on their face.
It's not like, you know, you're not being bamboozled.
Like.
Well, I think you underestimate, underestimate how naive some men can be in terms of the way, in terms of the ways in which women will enhance their appearance through makeup and filters and these sorts of things.
Let me come back to what you said, then I'll address what you said, but can you scoot your microphone to your right?
There you go.
Perfect.
That's good.
That's good.
So you said, can you remind me what you said?
Yeah, I said that I feel like if you normally wear a full face of makeup every day, not every day, but most of the time, then I don't see the problem with making those your pictures.
Okay, so my response to that would be, well, do those same women wear the makeup to sleep, to bed?
No, but when, like, I mean, they're wearing them when they're around.
But within the context of a romantic relationship, at some point, you guys are going to spend the night.
You guys are going to, you're going to see your girl without makeup.
So it is a bit of a mirage in a sort of way.
And the other thing I would add to that, too, is Why do people find a truly attracted to physical beauty?
What's one reason that?
I know it's a bit new on you.
Because it's a good indicator for health.
Well, infertility.
Yes.
But for example, one for example, if you had the choice to have children with someone who is very attractive and children with someone who was not attractive, you would want to pair with someone who's physically attractive so that your children are physically attractive because we know physical attractiveness gives you certain benefits and privileges throughout your life.
Well, my thing with that is that makeup only covers up so much.
I mean, if you like, I don't know.
I feel like someone who's pretty and wears just some makeup to enhance it.
I mean, you can still probably tell that they're a naturally pretty person.
I mean, no, or.
I mean, I don't know if you've seen some of these before and after.
I don't know if you've seen some before and after photos.
But it's like, I can, yeah, I can see that.
You're saying, I get what you're the point you said earlier about I'm not recognizing how like naive some men could be to like makeup.
Like honestly, I can maybe a few percent wouldn't agree, but almost everyone's makeup here in this room, if we were to take it off, we would all look damn near the same.
The men mostly would not be able to tell a difference.
I'm not going to do it, so don't fucking ask me.
But the thing is, is like, I said, don't fucking ask me that.
I got some neutrality.
Do you think I do my makeup for 30 minutes to be here to wear for an hour and take it off?
I'm out of here damn eyes.
Anyways, back to my point.
Yes, men could be naive, but most men can see when you're wearing that much makeup.
Like if you're wearing makeup to transform your face, unless you are a freaking Ariel or the Kardashians makeup artist, you're going to see that powder on their face, especially when you meet them in person.
You're going to see the layers.
It becomes to a point where it looks wrong.
They call it now, they call it birthday makeup.
You know, that's what the whole little thing is, birthday makeup.
Like, I get it.
I get your point, but a little bit of makeup, come on.
Someone wrote this in the comments, so I can't take credit for it, but they asked a fair question, which was, if you don't think makeup significantly enhances your attractiveness, then why wear it?
I didn't say that.
I said it does enhance yourself.
I said it enhances my natural features, which is why I do it, because it makes me feel better about myself.
More put together.
When I look in the mirror, I look like, okay, like, I look like I'm about to start my day, look a little bit more awake.
Not like I look like a completely different person, but something.
If makeup didn't have any sort of benefit to your appearance, women just wouldn't wear it.
Are you guys skipping past the word enhancing makeup?
But you're saying like, but in terms of selecting a partner, both men and women look to physical attractiveness to determine like, oh, I want to meet this person.
So you are essentially misrepresenting your actual appearance, or if you want to use enhancing, you are to a degree, that's not what you actually look like.
But my overall point, like how you said how men could be so naive to makeup, I, like, not just me, majority of us here would look, most men, the alley could be like, oh, maybe she looks a little bit tired or she looks a little bit less flushed in the cheeks.
They're not going to notice a vast difference.
I'm telling you this because of how it often happens to me from men telling me, oh, I didn't even know you were wearing makeup now or that you were making this time.
Unless I'm wearing sparkly shit on my eyes and a red lip, they usually can't tell.
See, but look, the difference from you and other women is you might look pretty without makeup.
There's a dozen other women that we've seen that hasn't.
And like you said, you've been with women.
I've been with women before and they take their makeup off and look completely different.
I have concealer on, so I'm fine with taking my makeup off, but there's a lot of girls who don't look the same.
So I understand exactly why men want women to live in their natural beauty because they love themselves and look at themselves that way.
Whether you want to believe it or not, I know dozens of women who wear makeup and are insecure as hell.
Yeah, so every kind of like makeup does enhance beauty and it does make a lot of girls more prettier and some girls don't even look good without it.
But my overarching point though is like those women who don't look pretty without the makeup, one, either aren't going to look still pretty with the makeup or they're doing a shit ton of makeup to look good.
So, the guys who don't like natural women aren't gonna go after them is my overall point.
Is that leave those beat-down faces for the men who like the beat-down faces and the natural beauties for the men like the natural beauty?
Sure.
Okay, well, I mean, we could probably go back and forth on the makeup thing for a little bit.
But the other point I was gonna make is, and I think this is, me personally, I think the makeup example is similar to the height-lying thing, but I can take it a step further.
I think a bigger faux pas is using filters on a dating app.
So, I mean, I pulled up Facebook dating right now, and I'm just looking.
I mean, like, first photo, filter, you can't even see your nose basically.
Makeup, let me see.
Oh, I'm not gonna show that one.
Let's see.
Oh, sorry, I should be showing these.
Okay, well, the age range on this is fucking silly.
Oh, shit.
Okay, I mean, filter, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like using filters, filtered photos on a dating profile is probably equivalent to lying about your height, you know, because that's not just, yeah, like usually.
I just would probably say it's just impractical for whoever's doing it because you're going to see them in person.
But I could totally see how a guy who is like really charming, great personality, but is like trying to meet someone on a dating app wants to lie about his height.
Because if that makes a difference to a girl, like going to see if going on a first date with him or not, and then he woos her over with his like humor, but like he wouldn't have gotten the chance to like show her his personality beforehand.
Like, that makes sense.
Carson, can you hit the on the sources tab in StreamYard, hit the eyeball?
Yeah, it's StreamYard.
Just the eye, StreamYard, StreamYard.
Nope, that's SL Alerts, StreamYard, one down.
Yeah.
I'm not literally not saying shit to Tara at all.
Like, how am I trying to run her over?
Like, oh my God, they can't let it go from that last podcast.
Like, let it fucking go.
So move forward with your life.
When it comes to using the filters on the dating apps, I would honestly say of the girls I see on Hinge, Facebook dating, whatever, like 50% or more are using filters on their photos.
I mean, and their first photo too.
And that's like, okay, that's the hook, right?
So it's pretty disingenuous, I think, to lie about your physical appearance, which I mean, both men and women care about pretty substantially, but men typically are not lying about their facial.
I know a lot of people are filters too.
I agree with you.
There are men that wear filters.
FaceTune, FaceApp stuff.
I think that's out.
Can I ask about all the filters that morph yourself?
Yeah, like that's just.
I don't even use them on regular.
But makeup cannot physically make your nose small.
It cannot make your lips huge.
It cannot make, you know?
Like, filters physically will make your lips bigger.
Filters will make your eyes bigger.
They'll like literally change you.
Sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
That's all I had to say.
You definitely lost your point with that one.
Yeah.
Yeah, filters are bad, but I guess what I'm just trying to say is I think guys should start lying about their height.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
Then don't be mad when they come up to the date and get clowned or laughed at.
That's, I mean, you can't be upset then.
Yeah.
Short King, Supreme, whatever.
But if you lie about your height and then show up to a date and you get clowned, can you be upset?
Can the guy clown y'all?
That's fair.
I don't think it's ever okay for a girl to like.
If you clown a guy, what are you talking about?
I think it's the same way vice versa.
A girl puts on her profile that she only weighs 110 pounds and then she shows up and he's 300 pounds.
I think that's why I'm not sure.
It's okay to laugh at her and clown her.
I don't think it's ever okay to clown somebody.
If you, that, that is not okay.
If you are hiding who you truly are to get somebody to meet you in person, they can respond anyway.
You can't choose how somebody's going to respond to you lying to them.
It'll be different if they were straightforward.
You know what I mean?
Then that's totally wrong.
I'm not saying people should slide up on their stuff and insult them or I'm not saying any of that's right.
But if you lie to me, make it seem like one way and what's another and you show up and it's not, you can't say how I can react to that.
How would you handle it if he was six foot?
Okay, you said he was six foot and he came to you, he was five eight or five seven.
You're gonna scream at him and yell at him?
Me personally, I wouldn't.
I would just be like, I would be like, really, dude, like, oh, so you would say something.
I would, because I'm five, seven, and I'm gonna be wearing heels probably, so I'm probably gonna be five nine.
So if you say you're six feet and I show up and I'm almost half a head taller than you, come on, bro.
That's weird as hell.
And I have, I have on my profile, I have my height on all my profiles.
So you see that I'm five, seven and a half, and you still chose to lie and then show up to the date knowing you're shorter than me and didn't get no still.
He was trying to get the hook.
He was trying to get the hook in the same way that women wear makeup to get the hook on the guy.
That is the exact same thing.
So like anything anyone has to be a little different then?
Maybe if he lies on his profile, right?
We're talking for a minute, we're getting to meet each other, and then he wants to take me out on a date or whatever.
Maybe tell me beforehand, hey, I'm sorry, it's something I'm insecure with.
I did lie a little bit about my height.
I hope it's not a big deal.
But to completely blindside me and not say nothing until we're in person, that's crazy.
I'm supposed to just skate past that.
Like, I'm not looking down at you.
Come on.
Well, just kind of going back to something you said previously, you mentioned weight.
Yes.
It is interesting that on dating apps, there's for Tinder.
Well, actually, I'm not sure about Tinder.
I haven't been on Tinder in a while.
Bumble, Hinge, Facebook Dating, a lot of these other dating apps.
There's a dedicated height field where you can actually put in your height.
Yet.
Wouldn't it be like crazy if there was a weight?
Why isn't there a Wakefield?
That would be...
Women should...
I think there is on some dating apps.
No, there's not a...
I think I remember.
I remember someone who's a bad person.
Dude, are you kidding me?
Like, there is no way.
There's no weight field.
Like in this America, that would like to be like, you might have said it's being one, actually.
F'd, I feel like the reason why height is in like hinge and stuff is because that you cannot like see in pictures, but like somebody's weight, you would be able to see in a picture.
I don't know about that.
I mean, if they're like lying and using hella old pictures, but for me, that's my logical thing.
Yo, have you ever seen like the fucking MySpace angles?
Like fucking up here.
I think the reason why it could be different.
Kind of what her point is, but not exactly.
I think the reason why maybe they don't include weight is like 5'5 is 5'5.
5'7 is 5'7.
130 pounds can look very different on everyone.
Even if they're both 5'2 women, they can carry 130 pounds so vastly differently.
Whereas both 5'2 women, they're both 5'2 at the end of the day.
Like that's not changing.
Okay, how about your waist circumference measurement, which is actually a really good indicator of like you mean like my waist, my hips, all that?
Yeah, yeah.
Like if you had to put your like, like if you're saying yeah, like if you're saying like that's not my motivation if I put on my app my bust is 33, my waist is 25, my ass is 40, they're gonna look at that and have no idea what you're saying.
But also that is true.
I got no idea what any of that is.
That means stuff to women, but no, if a man said his waist is 33 inches, I'm gonna be like, okay.
But her point still stands.
It's like you and I could have the same measurements, 33, 25, whatever, but look exactly different.
It's, you know, for men too.
That's like for men as well.
But for the most part, you're never seeing what they look like from their pictures unless they're lying.
That's why I'm saying, yeah, like for the women who sometimes only have their little part of their head and they end up being like some woman can like have a smaller face and not match their body.
That'd be fucked up if they showed up for the date, acting like they were little itty-bitty, and they were, you know, like 600-pound life.
That's me.
Word.
Word.
Okay, we got to get to these super chats here.
You can pull that one up, Carson.
Yeah.
Did you miss a few or?
I'll scroll out.
Yeah, make sure you, like, every 20, 30 seconds, you're just looking, looking, looking for.
Every time it updates, just be constantly looking.
I'll get this one while we're at it.
Yo, Praxis, thank you for the $20 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Even if men don't get tricked by your layers of makeup, your habits still show that you are financially irresponsible and deeply insecure about your appearance.
Also, an agreeable, plain Jane 6 trumps a disagreeable 10 any day of the week.
What do they mean by agreeable and disagreeable?
Can I make one statement before that, though?
I love how he's talking about our habits show that you're financially irresponsible, but you're spending $20 to make a comment on a podcast right now.
So I don't know.
Maybe, I guess you just got it like that, but that's a stupid ass way to spend $20 if you ask me.
Actually, kind of on this topic, Praxis, thank you for the $20 Super Chat.
So how much would you guys say you spend?
I don't know if you want to break it down by month or year.
How much would you say you spend on cosmetics, I guess, a year?
I guess that includes makeup.
I would have honestly no way to answer that question.
No way at all.
Like, I'm not going to lie, I just buy drugstore makeup.
I probably.
Yeah, I probably don't spend more than like $100 a year on makeup.
It's so random.
Like, before I didn't used to wear makeup that often.
Now that I work at a club and have to wear makeup, I wear a little bit more.
But like, literally, I'm so, I would have no idea how much I spend on makeup.
I would say maybe a year total, I would spend on makeup, maybe around $500 the whole year.
Okay.
I actually keep incredibly detailed logs of all of my spending so I know exactly what my beauty spending is per month.
And it's $40 a month.
There you go.
$40 per month.
All of your beauty in total is $40 per month.
Yes.
And that stays the same $40 per month.
It doesn't like your birthday month, it doesn't go up.
Well, it's all averaged.
And that includes like if you don't get like, yeah, I don't get my nails done, which like saves a lot compared to $40 a month other girls.
Yeah, I get like averaged out.
Did everyone get to answer that question?
You too.
I don't spend a lot.
I don't really do nails either.
I got these from CVS.
Okay.
What about you?
I have makeup that's expired that I still use.
It lasts forever.
I don't really buy makeup that often.
Who is on the riddle in?
Can somebody stop shaking the table?
I'm sorry.
It's definitely me.
I'm sorry, Brian.
I'll cut it out.
Did you take some adderall before the show or what's up?
No, just deterbids maybe.
Okay.
So you said 40 a year about?
Or what was it?
Maybe like 100.
I don't know.
Okay.
I'm like the same as we're talking about.
Too many caller.
Yo, it's bullshit.
No way.
Sorry, sorry.
It was probably me too.
I'm shaking like stripper rolls.
Is it too cold?
I mean, I have a finder's.
Everybody's ages are like I'm just a fidgeter.
I'm sorry.
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When they say I want to experience life, see what I like, travel, not ready to settle down.
All I hear is I'm going to be ran through with baggage, and my future man better accept me as I am delusional.
Wow.
Delusional.
Go ahead.
What is so wrong with wanting to be alone?
Like, I don't, I don't understand.
It's like so many men just get so upset when you say, like, yeah, I'm not looking for a relationship right now.
I'm not looking for anything serious right now.
You're making it seem like I'm going out and fucking the whole world.
I've been single since March, okay?
I've slept with two women and one men since then.
Oh my God, I'm a fucking slut.
I'm a hoe bag.
Take me to fucking hell.
Like, it's so contradictory.
Like, just say you get no fucking puss then.
If that's such a hoe-ish behavior to be, I know everyone is different.
Everyone has their different opinions, but I think it's kind of crazy.
I think it's because a lot of women lie about that and say they're single and don't really know what single means.
Like a lot of people, like I said before, will be like, oh, I'm healing.
They're sucking 20 pee-pees.
How the fuck is that healing?
Think about that.
I'm not saying you in general, but single is like you alone, no dating apps.
You got your own thing going to the gym.
That's why I'm around, you know?
I'm like, in 10 months, if I've happened to have relations with three people.
Did you just say relations?
Relations.
Yeah.
Sexual relations with three people.
Like, I just don't understand how that's like end all, be all.
Especially two of them being women, like I said.
So one man in the past 10 months.
So I've slept with, now let's break it down.
I've slept with two men since 2019, but I'm a whore because I don't want to date anybody right now.
Like it just, it doesn't add up to my brain at all.
Like I just, I know I don't want a relationship, but sorry, I don't, sometimes you want to.
Okay.
I got to be celibate for the rest of my life.
Like I'm not waiting until marriage.
So that's not what I've ever claimed to be doing.
Well, I think when here's like what we translate in our heads as guys when we hear women say, I just want to find myself.
I just want to, you know, explore, find myself.
Here's what we're thinking.
Getting ran through.
That's what we think.
These are the same men who want submissive women, right?
You want a woman who is going to be submissive and listen to you and stay at home.
You want her to stay home and not hang out with her friends when you want her to hang out with her friends.
So what is wrong with me taking a few years out of my life to do that so I don't have to sit and argue or make somebody upset?
I could do whatever the fuck I want.
Doesn't mean it has to be fucking.
It could be just, I don't know, hanging out with my friends, not responding to my phone 25-8, things like that.
Wait, 25-8?
You ever heard of the saying 25-8?
Come on.
Be for real.
24-7, 25-8.
It's like a dramatic way.
It's like a hyper thing, you know?
Who the fuck is that guy?
I've never.
He hates AAVE.
I don't know.
It's A-A.
A-A-V-E.
You're an Alcoholics Anonymous?
Oh, my God.
Oh.
How long have you been sober?
Wait, you're a bartender.
Hello?
Is he being serious right now?
Wait.
African American Vernacular English is A-A-V-E.
Oh.
I couldn't.
Oh, man.
I was thinking though, too.
Sorry, sir.
I was thinking this.
I didn't know.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, wait, what were we talking about?
Oh, you working on yourself.
Okay, I think.
When did I ever fucking say that?
I just said I wanted to be single.
Y'all kept saying that.
I'm trying to heal myself.
I'm working myself.
I never fucking said that.
I just said I don't want to be up underneath somebody else's asshole all day.
Like, I want to do my own thing.
Hey, don't knock it till you try it.
I have.
Not that way.
Good times.
Good times.
All right, we have, let's see.
Booty tang for me.
Okay, we have Sky Traveler with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Love the show, Brian.
Keep up with the good work.
Question for the panel: Would these girls date a cop, even with how the political climate is these days?
Yeah, we can go around on that.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I would date a cop.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Yes.
I am kind of surprised by all those answers.
Okay.
Cops are hot as fuck.
What are you talking about?
Yo, really?
EMT.
We love our blue-collar worker.
A uniform.
Security.
Security.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because we had one girl on the show who, well, she was very anti-cop.
So I figured in a more liberal area, you might.
I believe there needs to be some form of reformation in some areas of America with their cop system for sure, but that doesn't mean all cops are bad.
That's not what the statement is.
It's not all cops are bad.
It's all cops are bastards because I'm not even saying I really agree with that statement, but the point of the statement is like when you see things that are going on and they don't say anything.
Like, yeah, that's kind of bad, but I can't assume that every cop has seen bad shit and is letting it slide.
Like, I know a million cops that are great men.
I agree with that.
When I was alone on the side of the road after the totaling of my car on Christmas Eve, like at like midnight, I was, it was the cops and the fireman that showed up right away.
And cop like drove me home, so I wasn't like completely abandoned.
So, anyways, they do good.
They're good guys.
Thank you for that.
All right.
That statement with that comment was wild.
Yo, David Drysdale, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
If you meet a man your age, Carson, just careful with the feet there.
If you meet a man your age and he checks all of your boxes, then you guys have a conversation with him about exes and he reveals that he's never been in a relationship.
Would that be a turnoff for you?
We'll go around on that.
Sure.
I don't think so.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah, because I feel like he's getting his advice from elsewhere.
Not a reliable source.
From who?
Maybe, like, Andrew Tate.
Oh!
Oh.
You know.
Okay.
Wait, but so you think a guy who.
They just don't have any experience.
Like, what are they basing there?
Like, they don't have any experience.
I mean, I'm pretty sure like every single person that listens to Andrew Tate is just fucking slaying.
Just fucking slaying him.
I'm sure.
Sure.
So, like, they're just.
You know, the guys who probably aren't getting any are the ones that watch MSNBC.
But not the ones spending four hours watching a podcast on a Sunday night.
Hey, whoa, Kiko.
Whoa.
That's so mean.
Sorry, is that too far?
How dare you say that about my where's Mike?
Mike Davis?
I don't know.
Do you have a name for your fans?
Like, do you have a nickname?
Not really, but I mean one came to my mind.
The whatever warriors.
Were you going to say the whatever wiggers?
How dare you?
Definitely not.
That's weird.
Whoa.
Definitely was not going to come out of my mouth.
How dare you?
Okay.
So wait, the super chat.
What about you?
I mean, not necessarily, but I would ask him, like, why haven't you been in a relationship?
If it's like, I don't know.
Depending on that answer, I would go from there.
I agree with that.
I think that I'd be kind of concerned.
Like, I'd just be confused why.
But I also, at 22, I don't think that's that old to have not been in a relationship.
So I would just be curious why, but it's not a total deal breaker.
Tara.
I'm only 21, so it's not that bad.
If I was like older, if I was like, you know, 25 plus, that would probably be definitely like a concern.
Or like maybe a deal breaker.
But I only think the thing that would be like concerning or a problem is like figuring out if like a guy doesn't want to be in a relationship with me, that would be like a deal breaker.
But maybe that's like obvious.
I don't know.
But it's like I wouldn't even go on a date with him if it was clear to me that he wasn't interested in the relationship.
Sure.
So.
I see nothing wrong with dating somebody who's never been in a relationship.
What about a virgin?
Yeah, I would do that.
We'll go around the table this way, Tara.
I'm going to have to probably say no to a virgin.
Yeah.
R.I.P. in the chat for all the virgins.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, I'm going to say no.
I just, yeah.
I wouldn't say no, but I don't know.
Yeah.
I have a boyfriend, so four sides say no.
Well, assuming you were single.
Okay, then maybe.
I don't see why not.
Like, just show him around.
I can think of like a million.
Did you just say show him around?
Yeah.
Show him around.
You know, like.
What are you going to show him around?
You could teach them.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, you know?
Oh, okay.
It's not a total deal breaker.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Kiko.
If he was just a virgin because like the time hasn't come, then sure.
But if he's like waiting until marriage, then fuck no.
I would say no.
I think in the same sort of way that I can imagine why like guys wouldn't say, like would find it a little concerning for like a girl that had like a hundred bodies.
Like there, like it's it, there's something behind that sexual behavior.
That's like a reason for it.
So it's more of that.
That like if you're 21 and a virgin, there might be some sort of like emotional issues that are like, that are the cause of why that's your sexual history.
If that makes any sense.
Okay, word.
All right, we have, oh wait, did we do this one?
Yeah, we did praxis.
Thank you, man.
Yo, event on event, event-eyed fallacy.
Thank you for the $20 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Bro, you've got some fucking shoulders and traps and biceps and fucking pecs, dude.
Congrats.
Fucking shredded.
You Myron.
Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Is Kiko transforming because that masculine?
I don't know what happened there is oozing through the screen.
Is she also vegan?
Because that BS makeup or bubble was a bunch of word salad.
What do you have to say, Kiko?
I was born with a coochie.
I'm not a vegan.
I prefer red meat over chicken, actually.
But yeah, I don't know.
anything you want to tell him you're giving you're broke I would never date you.
Well done.
Well done.
Good one.
Gus, you're broke.
I would never date you.
It's because you're vegan.
But this guy I want to really talk to because he's just making some good comments.
Can you do a super chat?
Oh, oh, oh.
Okay, yo, Calvin Hamilton, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Calvin here, I don't think women today understand that most men just want simplicity.
Your physical appearance will change for you 10 years from now.
Do you ever think about longevity when it comes to dating?
I feel like that's slightly vague, but I feel like that was a pointless ass comment and a waste of $10.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to parse the question.
I don't think most men just want.
There's like three different semi-unrelated statements.
But yo, Calvin, thank you for the $10 super chat.
I appreciate the coochie.
Sorry, I was pointing to a comment.
Do you ever think about longevity when it comes to dating?
I don't really even... longevity.
I was going to say, I don't even know what that means.
The long-term mess of dating.
No, I know what it means.
Does he mean like when you're considering partners, do you think about whether this would be a good partner, not just to date and have as your boyfriend or fun with for like one night or like the next six months or a year of your life, but like long term for the rest of your life?
Like that depends what you're dating with.
Maybe what the question was.
So I think he's asking us, is that things we consider?
Some people date for marriage.
Some people date for experiences and then turn into dating for marriage, whatever.
You can pull it up, Carson.
I think that was a pointless ass question.
Yo, Hector Navarreas, thank you for the $20.
By the way, just keep it center on the super chats.
Hector Navarreas, thank you for the $20 super chat.
We are whoever is.
I mean, I was thinking whatever Warriors or whatever.
But hey, dude, thank you for the big $20 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
You can pull that up.
Yo, Reginald Walkin.
Welcome, excuse me.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate it, man.
Thanks for the support.
What do you think about disclosing plastic surgery?
You marry someone and your kids come out looking way different.
That's a good point.
By the way, guys, I know we skipped ahead.
We do have the rest of the super chats.
We just skipped ahead to this one, but we will get the rest shortly.
So, yeah, this sort of ties into the makeup filter conversation that we were having before, kind of misrepresenting what you look like.
And I actually had something related to this.
So what do you think about disclosing plastic surgery?
would you what i kind of want to reframe your question here reginald if you don't mind so would you do any of you have plastic surgery to start by the way Lip fillers, anything?
Okay.
Anybody?
Anybody?
Okay.
Do you think, and maybe it might be hard for you to answer on behalf of someone else, but do you think it'd be rude for a guy to ask a woman who's undergone a decent amount of plastic surgery, let's say rhinoplasty, let's say lip fillers, let's say maybe some body stuff, right?
Do you think it would be unreasonable for him to ask for photos of her, let's say a lot of facial work, to ask for photos of what she looked like before she got plastic surgery?
Is that an unreasonable request?
I wouldn't say unreasonable.
I would just say a little weird.
Like if we're getting to the point where we're talking about having kids and stuff, I would hope to God that you're close enough to where you've already disclosed if you've gotten procedures done and you've already seen pictures of your partner.
If you're talking about having children with somebody, I would hope you know what they've gotten done.
And yeah, I think it would be kind of weird if you never mentioned, oh yeah, I got a boob job when I was 21 or I got a little eyeball.
Like it's so weird.
Like I'm sure those women who don't disclose it out there, I'm sure.
But yeah, I'm hoping once marriage is coming around, that's already discussed.
I think any form of surgery needs to be mentioned, maybe, like, when you first start dating.
This is something that most people should know.
Kind of like, you know, trans people, how they get sexual changes or, you know, I don't even know the word, but yeah, I feel like people like that should say something when they're first starting dating.
Like, I wouldn't want to date a guy and then find out he has a coochie, you know?
Yeah.
Wow.
I want you down.
Carson, are you just pulling these up?
Just anything.
Yeah, yeah, you can show them while we're, well, I don't have another one pulled up.
That's fine.
What about you?
Yeah, I think honesty is the best policy.
If they wanted to see an old picture, okay.
Yeah.
I agree.
I mean, I think it's kind of weird if you just started dating someone for them to ask you for old pictures.
But I agree that it's the best policy, you know.
But I do think that why are you asking that question unless you're trying to have children with the person and wondering what that product is going to look like, you know?
Well, I think some people do date with the intention of, obviously, you don't anticipate having children with someone immediately, but if you're dating with some intention, you maybe see it going towards marriage, children one day.
And I feel like it's much better to know sooner rather than later.
But Tara, go ahead.
I think that's like totally fair.
I mean, I'm probably biased because I'm sort of like against surgery, like plastic surgery for women in general.
So I'm kind of biased in that like, I think less people should be getting it.
But yeah, so I think that's totally fair that you like disclose it.
Okay.
Yes, I agree.
Women should say something first.
I don't think a man should have to ask you for pictures.
You should just already tell him, like, hey, I got lip fillers.
Hey, I had my whole nose done.
I used to look like Michael Jackson.
And then show your pictures in Simple.
Got it.
All right.
Hold on, guys.
I got my place lost here with the.
Sorry.
I do not have that.
Or wait, did we?
Yeah, we already got that one.
My bad, Kiko.
Wait, what did they think I'm mad about?
What do you guys think I'm mad about?
Yo.
I'm literally just shutting up.
Aventide fallacy thing for the $20 soup chat.
Imagine complaining about $20.
What do you think most men in the West make per year, willing to bet you've taken more from men on dates who you had absolutely zero intent on sleeping with get a career?
Kid.
Kid.
What's your response to?
I'm not saying $20 or $10 is a shit ton of money, but when you're on this podcast multiple times a week, setting multiple of those ones all day and night long, yeah, it does seem like a stupid way to spend your money when it could go into either savings or something else.
Like I would definitely, I don't know, I'd rather go to In-N Out or something than comment on something like that.
You know what, Kiko?
Especially when you can comment for free.
They have to see, they're so like down on themselves, they have to see their comment up there and they have to hear their name read from you, but they can't just make a normal comment on the thing.
Listen, Kiko, I'm so deeply hurt and offended by what you just said.
On our next show on Tuesday, I want a $10 soup chat from you.
I would absolutely fucking never.
How dare you?
I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than do a somersault.
Is vile and disgusting.
By the way, I think this is Aventide's first time in the chat.
Thank you, though.
This is Aventide's first time in the chat.
So, hey, welcome, man.
Appreciate the subsequent super chats.
Y'all think I got a BBO?
That's crazy.
I'm like, thank you.
No.
I think that's insane.
Shut your fucking mouth.
Okay, we got the tick with the $10 soup chat.
This is the official rating from Brian on down.
475653.
Great show, fellas.
City boys, we up.
Look at his face.
Oh, my.
Look at what he looks like.
You look like that.
Okay.
Whoa, wait.
Come on.
Be nice to the tick.
You look like a chewed piece of gum talking about rating us.
That's insane.
Whoa, whoa.
That's insane.
You have to be at Lisa 5 to have rating privileges, I feel like.
Can we make that a rule?
If you're not at Lisa 5, you're not allowed to rate anybody else.
I mean, Aventide, he looks like a fucking babe.
He's like Giga Chad almost.
He looks terrifying.
I would cross the street.
What are you talking about?
I would literally.
If you.
Yo, Kiko, be honest.
You saw him in person, you'd cross the street.
No, you'd hit him.
I'd run for my life.
No, you'd hit on him.
Run the opposite direction.
No, you.
Sprint.
You saying bolt.
Out of there.
Let me tell you this.
If you saw a Ventide, this is what would happen.
If I saw Aventide, I'd probably ask him like.
Oh, Jesus, what is happening?
Okay, sorry, the soundboard went fucking gnarly there.
All right, yo, we got Eventide with the $10 Super Chat.
She just bragged about getting laid as an attractive woman, living life on easy mode with a game genie.
Father Time will quickly take what Mother Nature gave you.
It's called Forever 21 for a Reason.
Wait, who bragged about?
I don't know.
Did someone brag about getting laid?
I don't remember that.
Are you like that?
Aventide, can you just clarify who you're talking to?
What's in reference to?
Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Women and beta men.
Beta?
Beta?
I always forget if it's beta or beta, but use sign language.
Shame, insults, guilt need to be right when a fact statement that's said is true make the shoe fit.
You wouldn't be so defensive if that's not who you are exposed.
Thank you, Gus.
Yo, Hector Navarreas with the $20.
Oh, I think I got this one.
We are the whoevers.
Thank you, man.
Reginald Welkin with the $10 Soup Chat.
What do you think about disclosing plastic surgery?
Oh, wait, did we?
We did this one.
My bad.
By the way, Carson, you can star these and I'll just pull them up.
Are there any others that just star them and I'll pull them up after I get through all of them?
Yo, Praxis, thank you for the $10 Soup Chat.
Kiko, $20 Sup Chat.
Now 30 is a fraction of how much money women like you spend on makeup.
Please learn basic algebra instead of being so reactive and masculine.
Is there some?
He's talking about money.
Is there something you want to tell him, Kiko?
What?
You're broke.
Come on, don't.
Okay.
Red pill.
Like, what do you want me to do?
They keep saying the same shit to me over and over again.
Like, I don't know what you want me to say.
Well, say what you want.
Okay, Red Pill Crip.
Oh, you want to say what I want?
Oh, don't worry about that.
Okay, all right.
Red pill crip with the $10 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Hey, tattoos.
What about you?
It's real hair, nails, eyelashes, et cetera.
Asking for a friend.
So my nails are real.
These are extensions or my hair.
I do have falsies on right now, but usually I don't.
I just, I realized last time my eyes kind of got washed out by the camera.
So I was like, let me add a little extra.
I don't usually like, I did extensions for a while, but I usually just have mascara on them.
But yeah, any more questions?
You can send in for $30 next time.
Oh, God.
Okay, we got...
Mikey, Mikey Davis.
Hi, baby.
How are you doing?
We could do better than $9.99, Mike.
Do you want to read this chat for him?
From Mike Davis.
I see the Chihuahua is back and barking already.
Shiriam, thanks, Mike.
Back to you, Brian.
Thank you, Kiko.
Stressed teen with the $10 Soup Chat.
Why is Brandon not on every live?
Call him up.
Aventide Fallacy with the $10 Super Chat.
I've spent more money on subs, Netflix, Hulu, HBO that I never watch.
I've been a viewer of this channel for a while and have gotten thousands of dollars of entertainment for free.
Keep grinding, dude.
Aventide, thank you so much for the support, man.
Really means a lot.
Thank you, man.
Really appreciate it.
Yeah, I mean, the show is a form of entertainment, and they're patrons of the show.
Yeah.
I just, it's like so much fun to sit on this and just like make men spend their money to like say mean things to me.
It's like, Kiko, can you?
Honestly, why don't I get a cut of this, actually?
Because all of these super chats are about fucking me.
I didn't get some percentages on here.
I think maybe we could discuss if a fit check, if there's a fit check involved, maybe we can do it.
I did see how much the fit check costs.
Yeah, I'm not doing no damage.
I'll throw you without a demo.
I'll throw you.
If you're able to solicit a fit check, I'll throw you a 20.
I got you.
$20 or percent?
$20.
And $40.
Hold on.
$40.
It's a pretty good deal.
I got it.
I have a job.
Stop it.
Get some help.
Oh, wait, what?
Okay, sorry.
I'll give you this expired plan B.
I have an IUD.
I have a female condom.
Wow.
A dental dam?
No, it's a female condom.
And a bag of MeowMix cat food.
I have a dog.
Okay.
Next.
Tough negotiator here.
I don't take anything to her.
All right, we got it.
Oh, wait, I did this one.
Oh, can you do this?
Do you see the pose he's in?
The little fucking bicep?
Can you hit a little buy for us?
A bicep pose, yeah.
I don't even know how to do that.
It's like.
I don't think I've ever done that in my life.
Put your right hand on top of your other hand.
Other hand.
Boom.
Boom, flex.
Give us.
Wow.
Fucking shredded.
Jacked.
Kiko.
Kiko was a pole vaulter in high school.
Brian, pay Kiko.
Come on.
They don't even like me and they want you to pay me.
Yo, free Zen with each one of those soup chats.
Sup, Brian.
Love what you're doing, new subscriber.
Hey, welcome, man.
Thank you.
Appreciate the support.
Throught?
Throught Kiko was cute until she opened her mouth.
I also see that you have my girl Taytay up there.
Love you, you beautiful, beautiful human being.
Love you too.
Okay.
By the way, is it getting a bit warm in here for you guys?
Yes.
Carson, can you just pop the door open for us?
Thank you.
Is the table still shaking?
No.
No, it's good.
Yo.
It stopped.
It stopped.
Okay, I think we're all caught up finally on the soup chats.
Carson, just scroll down and just check on any other soup chats that came in.
How far?
God damn.
Okay, we're good, we're good.
Sweet, sweet, sweet.
Okay, so where were we?
I'm trying to remember where we had left off.
Were we going to react to a video?
I'll bring it up at the end of the show, actually.
Oh, let's just get this one.
Go ahead, pull it up.
Yo, Chris Pacino.
I think that's how you pronounce your name.
Thank you, man.
Hey, brother, love the show.
I'd love to hear more opinions from the other ladies.
Please and thank you.
It's usually the quiet ones that are more attractive and more intellectual.
then please because he forces me to fucking sit here and i have to answer every fucking question first like what do you he didn't like need to at you like so hard That was like.
You were all here when I argued and begged to not be sat in this seat because you have to answer everything first.
I did not want to sit here.
It's good to have the most opinion person, most opinionated person in that seat to get to get things done.
I think she's actually far more opinionated than me, but she's just being quiet right now.
Because you guys aren't talking about anything interesting.
Oh, point-proven.
Yeah.
Talking about all of that.
We ran through and stuff like that.
So yeah, no.
Talk about something interesting and I'll get it going.
Okay.
You got me started, so go ahead.
I'll get you good.
I think I'll get you on this.
You want me to get like that?
You just said it's not.
I was just saying, I think you're more opinionated than me just based on how you talk.
Damn.
I got a good one for us.
I got a good one.
There's nothing wrong with having opinions.
Okay.
Didn't mean to.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
All right, guys, just a reminder, all super chats will be displayed.
Guys, guys, you seem pretty.
Guys, guys, Kika.
I'm not going to do anything wrong about it.
I'm not going to.
Whoa, it's too early in the night.
Sax.
Let's just say it's actually 9 o'clock and we're wrapping up here.
You're sharing my government now.
Damn.
All right.
Oh, shit.
All right.
So, let me get these super chats.
Mike Davis, Tendo Super Chat Chat.
Does she look more like a Chihuahua or a hyena?
One for Chihuahua, two for a hyena.
Okay, so that's one for a Chihuahua, two for a hyena.
And then get the next one, Chaz.
Yo, at the gym, would you prefer to approach a man, him approach you, or neither?
Approach me.
I would love if a guy approached me at the gym.
I think there's a right way to do it when you're approaching someone in the gym.
But if you do it right, then I don't see a problem with it.
I have been approached at the gym before, and I did not appreciate it.
I would not like being approached at the gym.
That's my me time.
Kiara.
I don't really mind it.
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Okay, so if you guys want to get it a little heated, the last time you were on the show, Kiara, the big conversation was age gap relationships.
Yes.
Which you were critical of.
I knew I should have brought my notepad.
Yep.
So let's talk a bit about that.
So do you think it's wrong for a guy to date a younger adult woman?
Let's say a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old, for example.
No, I don't see anything wrong with it.
I just find it my thing was: okay, I'm not saying once they're a legal adult, that is her decision, right?
That is ultimately her decision.
It's not him grooming her or any of those sorts.
She's a legal grown adult.
I'm just saying I don't think it's fair to say there isn't a link with how men, the older they get, they still like very young women.
And my only point was, I know the stats start at 18, but I bet you if they started younger at 14, there'd be a lot of those grown men finding 14 to 18 year old women peak attractiveness as well, especially like 16.
I guarantee you would be actually 16 if that was a part of the stats instead of 18.
Because 16 to 18, you're not getting much different.
18, she could still be in high school.
Remember, we're talking about adults.
That's the thing you keep saying is you're talking about adults, but that's not my point.
So unless we want to go back to that, then maybe we shouldn't research that.
What age range bothers you?
Like, what's the issue with the age range?
No, so I'm going to give you context because he's bringing up from our last thing.
The last two times I was on here.
Let me just clarify.
I'm talking about adult relationships.
You keep bringing up high school.
I'm talking all this shit.
I suppose an 18-year-old could be in high school, but we're talking about 18-year-olds.
He's 18 and 30.
He said 20 years ago.
No, but he said, but he said 18 after.
He said 18 after.
He did.
He said 18.
Well, I just said 18 now.
No, you said after.
Okay, the first, okay.
The first example I gave was 30 and 20.
Yes, I said, I could even make it.
But the first thing out of my mouth was, that's fine.
My thing is, I kept going back to the data that you showed on the podcast, is my point.
When you showed the data that with women and men, as they age, women tend to find men the same age as them attractive.
While men, it stops at about 18 to 20.
My whole point is, I don't care if you don't want to bring this up and go into this deep down part of it, but you did.
So my point is, that stat started at 18, and I guarantee if those men knew they would not get in trouble or face any punishment, they would say that 16 was their optimal prime most attractive.
18 to 16 is not that far.
Okay, but you're basically just derailing the conversation.
I'm not because you brought it up.
No, no, no.
But, okay, but you're.
The conversation is men who are, say, a 30-year-old guy who wants to date a 21, 20-year-old woman, and you always want to bring it to the The P-word stuff.
Because last time we debated it.
But it's irrelevant.
Let's just, for the sake of a conversation.
How's it irrelevant if you're bringing up my last time on here?
You can't just bring up Pittsburgh.
No, but you were making.
But you were making the argument that 30 and 20 or 40 and 20, that's.
I did not make that argument.
I said, I must have said 18 because I know.
Do you feel the same way about women?
Because Demi Moore dated somebody really young.
Nobody batted an eye.
Jada Peekett Smith dated somebody 20 years younger than her.
Nobody gave a fucking thing.
I think it's disgusting.
Like even my ex-girlfriend, I started a huge thing in high school because my ex-girlfriend started dating her girlfriend when she was in seventh grade and her girlfriend was a senior in high school.
I was like, that shit's fucking nasty.
I exposed the hell out of her girlfriend.
I was like, you're a trifling.
I was like, if this was, she was my ex-girlfriend's best friend.
It was her older sister.
I was like, if this would have been, if you would have been a boy, this would have been everywhere.
This would have not been cool.
Everyone would have been on it.
And I exposed it too.
As soon as we got together and I found out about it, I was like, oh, she's out of her mind.
Like, she's nasty.
I don't think it's right if it's girl, girl, boy, boy, boy, girl.
And it's not because there is, I'm sure there are certain situations and instances where there is 30-year-old or 40-year-old men in the same position as maybe a 20 or one-year-old.
But it will never sit right with me how a 40-plus-year-old man could fall in love or be romantically involved with somebody under the age of 21 for it to not be for some type of weird reason.
20?
Under, yes, I think a lot of things change at 21, personally.
For the fact that, like, I remember I was 20 and I started dating this guy for a little bit.
He was 26.
When we, I felt like a whole child and it was only six years difference because I couldn't even go to the bar with him if he wanted to.
I couldn't go to the club with him if I wanted to.
I couldn't go into the 21 drinking section.
I couldn't go to concerts with him.
I felt like his little daughter that I couldn't do shit.
Like, I don't know.
I'm not saying every man who dates young is a pedophile.
I'm not saying that, but I'm saying there is a weird connection between men who are 50 or 40 plus going after 18 year olds because usually you'll see the trend.
They only go after 18 year olds.
It's not like, oh, he was dating all older women and then one 18 year old swept him off his feet.
Just remind me, how old are you?
22.
Probably 23.
22.
33.
So what about like a guy in his 30s dating you?
I would be fine with that.
Most men on my top 20.
But that's what we're taught.
That's kind of what we're taught.
I'm 23, not 18.
Okay, let's say 20 and 30.
Let's say 20.
20, even 20.
I'm saying, I just brought my situation of, I don't know, I think a lot of things change after the legal drinking age and those things.
I feel like you do grow a lot once you, at least for me, once I hit that point, and also now after the pandemic has happened, we have a lot of these 20-year-old adults who missed out on half of their high school and still have the mentality of high schoolers because they missed out on so much of it and are so behind.
Which I think adds a whole new tear into it.
Did you want to come?
No, I just personally don't think that it's weird or nothing like that, man.
I feel like people have preferences and there's a lot of women out here who have preferences.
Nobody bags on them.
So I'm very big on double standards.
I hate how women like constantly bag on men for things that women do as well.
Can you hide that, man?
Go ahead.
No, and I just feel like a lot of women, not you per se, but a lot of women have been through a lot of certain experiences and then they categorize other women like that or like even older women.
They'll complain about men dating younger women, but they're the ones who are not wanted anymore.
So they have a big mouth about that.
But when they were younger, they were sucking dick from a 30-year-old and they were 18 years old.
So like I never see the reasoning for it, especially because if that girl's not complaining, she's not saying something, why should it matter to you?
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just an opinion.
I want to let everyone else come in on this.
Do you have a take on age cap relationships?
Would you think it's an issue?
A 30-year-old guy dating a 20-year-old, for example.
I don't think there's an issue with that at all, honestly.
Like she said, people have their preferences.
So Personally, I don't think that legality equals morality.
So I would find it a little bit strange if a 30-year-old is wanting to date a 20-year-old.
Turn the mic a little bit.
It's a bit.
You'd think it's strange for a 30-year-old to want to date a 20-year-old.
Yes.
Why?
Personally, because I feel that a 30-year-old might not have as much in common with a 20-year-old.
Maybe this.
Sex.
Maybe this third.
Sex is in common.
Why does a 30-year-old want a 20-year-old?
Maybe because she's more impressionable.
because she's more vulnerable i mean well that's kind of even what andrew tate says sometimes why he wants younger women is because she is more impressionable and will listen to him easier than a man than a woman who's been with multiple men yeah And I don't think that's a safe connection for a 20-year-old and a 30-year-old.
So, I mean, there's a lot of little pieces I could jump off on there, but I'll respond really quick.
I know you want to go, and then I'll let you come in.
So you're saying that a 20-year-old is incapable of consenting to having sex with someone who's above a certain age, essentially.
No, I did not say that.
I mean, that's, you're saying it's wrong.
Like, so you're saying that somebody who is hella older, like, you're saying a 30-year-old and a 20-year-old, right?
Sure, 30-year-ling.
The 30-year-old is going to have the control in the relationship.
They're going to have the upper hand.
They're older.
They're going to have more influence.
This 20-year-old is going to be more vulnerable, not as strong.
Her prefrontal cortex isn't even developed yet.
You know what?
I agree.
In fact, I think we should raise the voting age to 25.
So, I mean, I don't know if any of you vote Democrat, but that would probably impact you guys quite a bit.
And there's been many women, like you brought up women who are like hella older now, and they're judging women who are younger.
Let me ask you a question.
Okay, go ahead, continue.
Who are judging younger women for doing those things?
Well, Brittany Renner came on TikTok or whatever, and she said, you know what?
At the time, I thought I was in my hot girl era.
I was like doing what men do, like hooking up, taking control of my life.
And she says, you know what?
I was letting very like older men take advantage of me.
But I thought that because I was an adult and I can make my own decisions, I was so grown.
But I really wasn't.
I mean, zero accountability, but let me just do one quick and then I'll have you come back in.
So do you think we should raise the age for when women can start in OnlyFans?
So women, I mean, 25 years old.
21 can be first.
I say 20, 25 years old.
21.
Okay, so then we should also bump the voting age for women to that I think the difference though between like We're also saying no, hold on, pause.
At 18, you're legally an adult.
You can, let's see, what can you do at 18?
I mean, you can sign legally binding contracts that will indebt you for the rest of your life.
You can join the, hold on.
You can join the military.
You can purchase a firearm.
You can start doing porn, you can start, I mean there's a whole bunch of other stuff.
We're saying raise the works for OnlyFans, strippers, sex workers in general to 21.
That's not just women, too.
Men are sex workers too, so it'll be raising for them, too.
So they would have to wait until 21, too, with your point there.
So I don't get how that makes any sense.
But this argument is always framed from the point of view of older men prefer to date younger women.
That's all.
You just ask us a new question about OnlyFans.
What's that?
You just ask us a different question right now about OnlyFans.
And we're saying to what she said.
Talking about the prefrontal cortex and that they're not able to.
Yeah, I have a big problem with like, I just don't really like any of the arguments that come from the standpoint of like women who are 20.
Because I'm 21, like I'm like basically that age right now saying that women that age have something wrong with their brains that they can't make proper decisions.
I just say yeah, well, okay, that they're not like developed enough, that I'm not developed enough to make she's saying the same thing.
It is biased.
It is a biological fact that your prefrontal cortex is not developed until you're like 26.
And she only said is the part of your brain that is important in making decisions.
I'm a psych major, so I know, but thank you for that.
I'm a clarifying reading.
I would just say, I have a question.
But for like a lot of you guys speaking on these type of things, not every woman is the same.
Like everybody grew up very different.
Like I know when I was 22 years old, I grew up in a very different lifestyle with my grandparents and stuff.
So like I never was ran through.
I never started sleeping around with guys.
I had like a good upbringing.
But this thing that you said before about Andrew Tate, something about a girl's want to listen to him, what's wrong with that?
How come a man can't have a woman who listens to him?
Why would he want to be with somebody who's not cooperative, doesn't listen to him?
You said that before, something about him wanting just a girl who listens.
Something along those lines.
Oh, I already mentioned before, I think men want a submissive woman.
That's totally fine.
I never said that.
I brought it up because he just said, I forgot exactly what he said, but he said something about how, oh, men don't care about like something.
He's stated something saying the opposite of what Andrew Tate said in that statement about how he wants, he does like women who are younger because they have less, they've been through less men and whatever.
And he was making some comment about how they wouldn't or something.
And I was like, no, that's literally what he said in the one we review here.
That was my only point with that.
I do believe why, if a man wants a submissive woman, hey, go for it.
I have no problem also being submissive in a marriage myself, but it's a marriage, not a relationship, is my only thing with that.
I mean, we're bringing it back to what Andrew Tate said.
I mean, better looking, lower body count, less baggage, more fertile.
I see nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, I mean, if that's what you prefer, that's what you prefer.
And there's other men who would prefer maybe an older woman or a woman who does have a ton of experience.
And that's okay, too.
My only point, because he brought this up from the last podcast, which you guys were present, so I feel like it was very unfair to even go back to this because now you guys are going to debate off the things that without knowing the full thing.
My thing was, I was never saying that because I know there's people who are different.
There might be some 20-year-olds out there that are in the exact same place as a bum ass 30-year-old or something.
I don't know.
Everyone's different.
I was just saying, I think, and he keeps, we keep getting away from it because he doesn't want this podcast to be about this.
So that's why we're not, my point's not getting across.
I'm just saying it's wrong to not say that there is a link between men who like very young women who would still, who would, if they could, go after women underneath the legal age.
That was my point from the last podcast.
I mean, if they're that bad of men, why don't they just go for the younger women then?
They typically do, but it's because he brought up a data point that started at 18.
And I was saying if it could go to 16, it would, but none of you guys saw that data point.
Is that how you view men, though?
That's how you are men.
Yeah, look what you just said.
Repeat what you just said all over again.
That's how you view men.
That you think that if they could, they'd date younger, right?
That's not a good thing to say at all.
I said some men, yes, I do believe some men.
You're trying to say there's not men out here that wouldn't.
But I'm saying from the moment there are some men who are P-words, and there are some men that are predators, but most, most men, and by the way, most men do prefer, or they do find younger women, keyword women, more physically attractive.
But that's not the sole reason they want to be with them.
What's the reason then?
Because you know.
There's other reasons, sure.
Yeah, because it could manipulate it.
They can manipulate them.
It's not always the case, though.
It's not.
That's like a big word to use.
Like, imagine if I said that about you, like, you manipulate a whole bunch of people.
That's not true.
You know what I mean?
Like, am I a 30-year-old dating 20?
That's 20-year-olds.
No, that is not.
I'm not a 30-year-old.
Not all men.
Not all men.
We're always not fucking seeing all men.
That's making sense.
We're talking about there's nothing wrong with them.
Why can't a man have a preference?
I'm not seeing the big issue.
We're not saying they can have a preference.
We're saying men will have a lot of different preference might be based on something that's not just a preference.
When it's based on something that's weird because it's not your preference, okay, Brian is saying that the main reason why older men go for younger women is solely because they're attractive, better looking than older women.
Not solely.
There's other reasons.
And that's one reason.
That's a big one.
Personally, I believe the other reasons why an older gentleman would want to go for a young girl that just turned 18, 19, 20 is because they can have more influence on her.
They can manipulate her more easily.
She's more vulnerable.
More so than a woman who is maybe 25, 26, 27, has had a lot of experience in relationships and experience with men.
Or we just don't want to date a woman who's been ran through and has a bunch of emotional issues.
Is every woman that's over 20 years old ran through?
No, but the older you are, the more likelihood to have had a higher partner.
Can men be ran through?
Men can't be ran through.
Why?
No, they can't.
Why?
So how is this?
It's different.
It's typically different.
Ran through is like loosening up, right?
Okay, can I say something about this?
You can't loosen up a man.
Hold on, please.
I mean, if you want, please, I'm not.
What makes you, so you're saying ran through loose, right?
What makes you, somebody who's been in a relationship the past two years, fucking who knows how much, versus me, who's had intercourse four times this past year, wouldn't it, just because it's the same dick, wouldn't yours be looser than mine on that logic, though?
When it comes to relationships?
Only four times.
Yes.
Okay.
I've been so, I've said so much shit on this podcast.
Why would I start lying now, Brian?
I've literally admitted to the fucking shit on you.
Sorry.
I won't shame it.
Lying is not something I do.
Okay.
So, okay, you said dominance, right?
They want to dominate the women.
It's kind of funny, though, that women try to frame this as a criticism of men, like that men are bad for wanting to dominate.
When 50 Shades of Gray is like one of the best-selling books of all time, and women want to be dominated in the bedroom, hey, I'm down for some fucking gentle sex, but y'all want to be choked and all this fucking shit.
Like, so on one hand, you want a man to be dominant, but you also criticize men for being dominant.
I do not want a man to dominate me.
I would like a man to lead me.
I would like a man to be respectful.
I feel like domination is a term that's like implying that a man is superior and the woman is inferior or whoever the partners are.
Like, I would not want a man to dominate me.
No, I would, I'd want us to dominate.
You don't like to be choked.
What?
You don't like to be choked in the bedroom?
Is being choked in the bedroom being dominated?
I mean, I think that's what he's like trying to do.
I think that's what he meant by bondage, domination, sadism, masochism.
I know, I'm not into BDSM, but so you just, you're not into rough sex, like strictly gentle sex?
No, I wouldn't say that.
That's fine.
I've been choked.
I've had my hair pulled and stuff, but I could say yes.
Yes, I do.
And that's dominating, right?
It is dominating.
If it's but okay, I mean, I to kind of argue for you, dominance within the confines of the bedroom, can be different than from the relationship.
So I don't want to argue against you.
But so I just, I don't get this because you're trying to link, you're trying to link guys who prefer to date younger women.
You think, and tell me if I'm getting this right.
Men who prefer younger women, if some of them, maybe even a good amount of them, if they could go lower, they would.
No comment.
I'm over this topic.
Come on, Kiko, don't give up.
We've done this.
Okay, no, because you have to understand where I'm coming from.
We started this argument actually the first podcast I came on.
And we argued about it almost half the time.
Second podcast I came on, we argue about it almost half the time.
Like, I'm over this fucking argument.
Like, I've done it for hours and hours and hours now already.
Like, it's tired.
It's so tired.
It's my personal opinion based off personal experiences and accounts I've seen from other women.
And I will die on this hill and I'm not changing my opinion.
And it sounds like you guys aren't either.
So on to the next debate.
Do you disagree?
No, well, we'll stick to it for a little bit.
So I'll stay quiet over here and you guys can continue.
So like, I'm trying to.
It's just like this comparison is strange.
Like comparing men or trying to create some sort of link that men who are attracted to younger women, again, keyword women, that it's somehow a P-word, pedophilia.
Hold on.
That would be like me saying that women who want to date tall men have some, have, are incestophiles because they have daddy issues because they want to look up to a guy because it reminds them of their dad.
Like you have some weird, incestuous fetishization to date taller men because they remind you of your father.
I'm not going on with that second statement.
I'm going to ignore that first.
That's how fucking crazy.
I'm going to pop your first statement, though.
You keep saying young women.
I just, I'm trying to emphasize I am talking about 18 to 20 years old.
I swear to God, I am.
That is young women.
I know it's young women, but you keep saying like younger women.
Like I'm saying like 25 and below or like 30 and below.
Like I mean that strict gap of 18, 19, and 20.
I'm happy to talk about that gap.
I think 30 year olds and plus should just wait until they are old.
Don't have teen in their name anymore.
I'm 33.
Yes.
You would take quarrel if I dated a 19 year old.
I would look at it like, damn, like you're a bum if you have that much in common with a 19 year old.
Yeah.
I mean, or that you're, or that 19 year old, I've been like, damn, she must either be a very successful 19 year old or he must be a very bummy 33 year old.
Because what do you guys have in common to be W to be dating a fucking 20, 19, 20 year old dad?
See, that's like, that's the problem with it.
You guys see it as a trophy, as a reward.
Like, that's weird.
But that's a price for men, though.
Oh, I agree with that.
Oh, I agree with that for sure.
But it's like, I don't know.
I don't say like, oh, yeah, I just scored a 56-year-old man.
I just scored a 35-year-old man.
Yeah.
I just don't.
I would never do that.
Let me ask you this.
So you're 23, correct?
Or 22?
23, basically.
Well, you're 22.
23.
Basically, 23?
I'm in a couple weeks, bro.
Okay, so you're 22, though.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm 33.
You're 22.
You would think it strange of me if I found you physically attractive.
I'm 22 years old now.
I never said that there was nothing wrong with.
But that's only two years older than 20.
That's not a huge difference.
I honestly look very, very different than I did at 20 years old.
Very.
And I'm not saying it in a sexual desiring way too.
I'm saying it in the point of like dating and on.
It's like, because one, okay, here.
Let me back up.
Let me retract.
Let me retract.
One of your biggest points, or at least Chase's biggest points the other time, was that men like younger women for fertility reasons.
Yes.
Right?
So that means that's saying that you are going to be obviously dating them.
I would hope you're not just meeting a random 19-year-old fucking them and getting them pregnant, right?
So you're going to be in a relationship with them, getting married, and then having kids with them.
I do see it kind of weird that somebody 30 plus is having enough in common with, which I said, there's obviously situational where there is some women who are much older for themselves and some men who aren't.
But yeah, and I would say the man is either a bum or something.
Like, how can you get along so well with somebody who just graduated high school when you graduated over a decade and a half ago?
Like, you should be in a different place of your life.
I understand your point exactly.
Like, I respect your opinion and all, but again, people can meet at the workplace.
People can meet all over the world, and you might not even know their age and then get with them.
And now, people are looking at you like you're a fucking perv or a weirdo, but you didn't even know her age when you first met her.
And a lot of these young girls look a little bit older.
I see nothing wrong with a guy dating a girl who's younger.
There's no problem with it.
And guys like anime, a lot of younger girls like anime, video games.
No, I'm being serious.
Older women, I'm 28.
I've met women my age who don't like anime.
They don't like video games.
It's boring to them.
So, of course, a guy's gonna talk to a 22-year-old who's into that because she's into that.
Why would he talk to a 30-year-old or somebody older who's literally bagging on everything that he does?
Older women, not to be rude, but a lot of them bag on men and bag on their preferences.
And that's why they're intolerable.
They're like so hard to be around.
They have so much trauma.
They don't heal from their stuff.
And trust me, guys, I'm studying to be a therapist.
So I talk to a lot of people.
So this is not just me talking out of my mouth.
I actually know this.
Can I ask you?
Can I ask you a question?
So, okay, so I'm 33.
I'm 33.
Can you articulate what advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus 21 for me?
It's not a thing about advantages.
It's just I would struggle unless I'm saying, yes, there's exceptional things, but I would just struggle to see what you have in common with somebody who just graduated high school a few months ago when you've graduated a decade and a half ago.
I would just, yes, you might have something in common.
You might have some things in common for sure.
Like, you might have some things in common.
That's what the sex is in common.
Oh, my God.
I have sex in common with.
I think you could have a lot more in common than just a lot of people.
There's a lot of people who are not.
That's why I'm saying there's exceptional things.
But for the most part, most 18-year-old girls I know are not in the same place in their life as the average 30-plus-year-old man.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
On average, I'm saying.
But what do men and women have in common in general?
Like, are you talking music and shit?
Because I'm not saying just music.
I'm just saying, like, this girl is going to cheer practice while he should be hopefully having maybe a home and like paying bills and shit while she's having a bow in her hair and doing the slits.
Like, that's two very different things.
Yo, Carson, can you pull up a photo?
I want to pull this up really quick.
It's the Leonardo DiCaprio photo.
Leonardo No Caprio?
Leonardo No Caprio.
Let's pull this up.
I do have a dog and live alone, actually.
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful thing.
Okay, so.
And I'll tell you when to switch it, Carson.
Not yet, though.
This is Leonardo DiCaprio.
They broke up, but Camila or some shit.
Oh, because I had another thing.
That was his girlfriend for a couple years.
I think he was in his 40s.
She was in her early 20s.
So this is what the world sees.
This is what the world sees.
And the next photo is what Kiara?
Did I say it right?
Kira?
Tell me, Kiko, please.
Okay.
This is what you see.
When you see this is what this is what you see.
Pull up the next one.
Control tab over.
Okay, here we go.
This is this is what this is what you see.
Damn.
That's how you're making it seem though.
I love Neil.
Like I said, do you see the difference?
But do you see the difference?
Like, it's.
Yeah, because that's a four-year-old.
Like, what do you please agree to fucking disagree?
Because I don't think you should not change your point.
I'm not.
There's literally nothing you could say to me.
I'm going to say you're right.
Other things, sure.
I'll be like, you know what?
Maybe?
Fuck.
You got a point.
This, I'm dying on this hill.
So I ask again, what advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus 21?
That she doesn't have a locker in a high school hallway.
That hopefully she's not living in her parents' house anymore.
Put her age up.
Maybe that her parents are.
What about her?
A 21-year-old has a locker and lives with their parents.
Once again, I'm not talking about 21-year-olds.
I'm talking about 20 years.
You said 18.
I thought he was.
Let me just ask you, though, the difference between those.
He said 21.
Did you not?
But okay, no, but my question was what advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus 21.
No 21 year olds.
I'm thinking you'd be in a similar, more similar place in life.
I'm not saying a woman to the same user listen to the same shit.
a woman who is 30 she might have a more developed career she might be do not care at all I just don't care about careers.
When you're building a family, a man wouldn't care to build with, okay.
Some men, if I mean, depending on their earning capability, but I mean, my goal is to be retired at 40 and I'll be able to provide for everything.
And so.
Okay.
Let's go, Brian.
Good stuff.
I mean, that's.
I think that a man would.
A man and a woman who are closer in age, they would just, like Yara said, they have more in common.
Like what?
What do they have in common?
I can say for surely that I'm 22 and I've made really poor decisions when I was 20 and 21 that I would not make today, that I would not.
Why does that mean that you wouldn't be able to date someone that was 30?
I'm sorry, this is actually crazy to me.
What's your name again?
Day.
Because I think.
So I'm 21.
So are you, you had this argument earlier about like the prefrontal cortexing and I guess your past self like 12 months ago is like way different than like decisions you would make now.
So are you telling me like right now I as a 21 year old do not have the like mental the enough mental capacity to make proper decisions about my body in relationships?
No, I'm saying that everybody who does not have a developed prefrontal cortex is probably not making the best decisions that they can for themselves.
That's because the prefrontal cortex, that's a part of the brain that deals with decision making.
Yeah, I get that.
So should we move the age of consent to 25 when everyone has a fully developed prefrontal cortex?
Or you're going to tell me to say that?
I feel like you have to say that.
Otherwise.
I don't.
Well then don't say that people understood.
It's because the example we're giving is somebody, no matter the gender, forget the gender.
Somebody dating someone for one person who's under that timeframe with your prefrontal cortex, whatever, fucking getting developed versus somebody who's already past that time where their prefrontal cortex is already developed.
So it may be easier for them to, like we said before, either manipulate or girls not to realize what's going on.
They could do things they wouldn't usually do.
Like maybe sign a lease with this man and be stuck with him forever.
Or maybe they would take abuse that they wouldn't usually take if they were older.
Like there's a lot of experiences.
I'm not even jacked that this doesn't happen.
And you guys are women, so this is like kind of crazy.
I feel like when women reach a less vulnerable age, they can make better decisions.
They can be like, oh, this guy, maybe this guy genuinely does enjoy who I am as a person and likes being with me.
I feel like maybe you are not that developed or that knowledgeable at a younger age to decipher whether a man wants you for you or your body or for like what you do for him, you know?
Yeah, so should then younger women or men not be, are we saying that like it's better that they not have relationships if they're not relationships with people in the same developed cortex of them.
So people with developed cortexes have relationships with people with developed cortexes and people with undeveloped cortexes have relationships with people with undeveloped cortexes.
Does that make sense?
I have a question.
That sounds kind of stupid to me.
I'm not going to say that.
I have a question.
A guy who's 27 could have a developed cortex and I wouldn't.
He's only five years older than me.
So you're saying I shouldn't be with him?
Oh my God.
How old are you?
Jamie, I don't know.
I don't.
That's why I don't think that age gap is too far out.
No.
It's like when we say a point, there could be no exceptions, but then when you guys say a point, it's like, well, obviously, we mean an exception of this.
Well, obviously, I'm just trying to tease you.
It's just a crazy thing to say that people who are like the 21-year-olds, like my, like, you're basically just saying, like, I don't have mental capacity to suffer one time.
You know what I'm saying, Tara?
What I'm saying, Tara, is that you may not have enough life experience or development to make the best decisions possible.
She's only us, though.
Yeah, and I'm saying I don't either.
I don't.
I feel like that's not a great argument because even the girl last time that was on here, she was like 30-something, didn't make the best decisions.
So that doesn't always go for her.
Yeah, so when she keeps saying this young shit, like it has nothing to do with that.
It's her advice who taught you what your upbringing was.
It has nothing to do with that.
Yes, I understand what you're saying, but that doesn't go for everybody.
And with all these young entrepreneur women, of course there's exceptions to everything.
You're going to tell me that a girl who's not at 18 years old, she's literally flicking her being online, lives on her own, doing her own thing, can't make her own decisions.
Did we not say there's exceptions?
Did we not say, hey, I didn't say that?
I didn't say she can.
She can definitely tell you.
I can tell.
Hold on, guys, one mic at a time.
Okay, I'll be bathing her.
Okay.
She can definitely make decisions.
That's not what I said.
You don't hear your tone.
That's not what I said.
You're insane.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, you're not talking.
Your tone of voice is very rude.
You're probably offended.
No, I'm not.
None of your points have affected me because they've all been sick as fuck.
Why are you screaming and insulting her?
I've gotten some of yours.
And I've honestly, sometimes when you say it, I'm like, maybe I get it.
But a lot of it just sounds like, pick me, pick me, pick me, choose me, choose me, love me, love me.
Like, we think you want to entertain me, we can't have the opposite fucking opinion of that.
No, you can't without being a pygmy.
You can get whatever's going to be.
I never said that, but the ones that you're like broadcasting are very pick-me-ish.
Can I be honest with you?
You're literally just arguing for no reason, insulting me.
I haven't insulted you once.
This is a debate, Mama.
Take it off.
It's a debate.
It's a debate.
I'm literally.
It's a debate.
Calm down.
And you're going to be.
You're a team tate because you keep bagging on him.
Team Tate.
Oh, yeah.
For the sex trafficker.
Yes, team Tate.
Where's your proof?
You got proof?
He posted it online.
Where's your proof?
He just got arrested.
Where's your proof?
He just got arrested.
Any proof.
Not accusations.
I think they want me out.
I'm like, totally ready.
Yes.
Peace.
I'm totally ready to go.
Don't worry.
Nobody fucking asked you, though.
That's crazy.
Whoa, bring them.
Okay.
I can't cuss all of them.
We've been cussing all podcasts.
You act like now because I'm cussing.
It's a fucking thing.
Like, you literally talk about labia remote surgery on here, and I can't say fucking, like, come on.
Hey, don't, don't shame women with a large labius.
Don't, don't do it.
I wouldn't be.
Kiko, don't do it.
I love all of you.
That's my soft spot.
Okay.
Wait, so I want to bring it back to you.
You were saying something good.
Oh, career.
Okay, so an older woman brings her career.
Okay, no, that's not the only thing she brings to the table, though.
I feel like an older woman is more intelligent.
She's more developed.
She's been through more in life to where.
So baggage?
I mean, is baggage necessarily a bad thing?
Yeah.
I think everybody has baggage, though.
Every single person.
Sure.
And that baggage doesn't only come from relationships.
It can come from family trauma.
It can come from other things.
So if you had to choose, well, I think it's a bit different, though, because I feel like men's God, I'm going to get canceled for this.
I feel like men's trauma tends to build them and women's trauma breaks them.
Oh, God, I'm going to get canceled.
That's a hot tape.
Yeah, that's definitely old.
I don't think I like that.
I feel like that's very bold to say.
I could be wrong.
I'm very bold to say when men lead our suicide rates.
So if they lead the suicide rate, like how can you date that company?
Finally, you are thrown down.
I'll take the L.
I don't know.
Maybe I take the L on this one.
But like, I just, to me, I don't see the benefit of dating.
And here's the thing, right?
I would say most of the women I date are around my age.
Like, because I don't think I'm, I don't think I'm. of a high enough status.
I don't think I earn enough.
I don't think I'm physically attractive enough to attract like a 21-year-old baddie.
Maybe in the future I got to lose a couple.
I got used like five pounds, you know?
But so, but most of the women I do date are within my age range.
Actually, I dated a 45-year-old cutie, you know, recently, but that's another.
Is that weird?
She was 45, 33.
What's up?
Actually, I was 32 at the time.
Do I have to answer that question?
Did she prey on me, Kiko?
Do I have to answer that question?
She prayed on me, didn't she?
I didn't know you were in a time machine and went back to the age of 10.
I feel like just because men like younger women, they do not have to go for exceptionally young women, like 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28.
That's young.
Are you telling me that's not young?
I'm just saying.
It's kind of like in the same way that you can keep edging out in terms of a guy's height.
Oh, you know, 5'11's good.
6 feet would be better.
6'1, oh, 6'1, 6'2.
So it's like 25, 24, 23, 22, 21.
You know?
Because, okay.
And this would maybe tie into our body count discussion.
The older you are, generally speaking, you're going to have a higher body count.
And men prefer women with a low body count.
Men value sexual purity in women.
And sexual purity, I mean, virginity is obviously crazy, but I'm talking low body count.
Are you saying you personally or like all men prefer a woman with a low body count?
Almost all men prefer low body count.
None of the men I've been with, really.
Not refreshments.
At least not they stated.
Maybe they could play inside.
Fucks that.
Bro.
I don't know why.
I've never been asked my body count.
Yeah, either.
I don't know why there's an assumption, though, that like there could be an 18, there could be a 20-year-old girl who has 50 bodies and a 30-year-old woman who has one body.
Like, I don't understand why that's such a heavy correlation.
It's so dependent on who that woman is.
And honestly, I would like to argue a woman that gets along, a younger age woman who gets along very well with an older man, the life experiences she's had means that she's probably been doing things that are of more grown stature from a younger age.
So she probably has more bodies than the average 18-year-old already does.
Okay, but here's the thing about the whole, well, yes, a 20-year-old could have 50 bodies and a 30-year-old could have three, but the 20-year-old who has 50 bodies, let's say the 20-year-old who has 20 bodies, how much is she going to have at 30?
That's the point.
But that's so dependent on the person.
That girl could that one day get in a relationship and never have one body the rest of her life.
Or that one 30-year-old, the 30-year-old with three bodies, could have been in relationship the whole time, get single, and now she's fucking the whole world at 35.
Well, the exception doesn't make the rule.
The exception doesn't make the rule.
Like, as you start to age, you start accumulating more and more bodies.
Of course, as you age, yes, you get more bodies, but it's not, it's not a direct lineage line.
Like, okay, she's 19, so she has four bodies.
She's 23, she has seven bodies.
She's 26.
It's so vastly different depending on woman to woman, even by look.
So it's like, that's why I feel like it's very hard to assume that because it is so fucking different.
It's so hard to look at somebody and actually know their body calories.
I knew a 19-year-old girl who had 100-plus bodies.
I'm not exaggerating.
I knew a girl who's 28.
She was a virgin.
Right.
I had a girl on, well, she's 26.
She was 26, lost her virginity, then she went crazy with 30 bodies by the time she was 30.
Swear to God.
She is a perfect example.
She was 30, had way more bodies than me, so I was like, oh shit.
Perfect example.
That's why I'm like, I don't like how to marginal.
She looked pure and innocent.
And that's the thing, too.
Like, I'm sure you've gotten this before.
I kind of just brought up my work the other night.
I didn't know before I got tattoos that tattoos were equate for women.
Like, you're a promiscuous woman, you're a slut, you're a whore, whatever.
I never, ever thought that.
Also, for trauma, like, it's considered men want women who are pure and feminine.
And when we're sitting here getting tattooed, we're self-mutilating ourselves.
That doesn't show pure and femininity.
So when they see us, they know we've been through too much trauma enough to deal and withstand us.
You know how hard it is to sit through tattoos, especially big ones?
A lot of women can't do that.
So that's how they view that.
I honestly, but I love that for myself, if anything, because then I'm going to attract the right man that I want.
But I just throw out my point was, though, I never knew that, because they didn't really say trauma.
A couple of them said, like, if anything, I think she's gone through hella shit because she can handle the pain.
But no, a lot of them are like, oh, no, like, she is a slave.
She has like multiple tattoos.
She's a whore.
She's a slut.
She's sleeping around.
And I'm like, I just, I've never, it's such a dated, like, I've never equated maybe certain tattoos, like tramp stamps or something.
Like, but just tattoos in general, I was just, I've never, but like this chat, like, they always hate to me, like, they just assume, like, I'm a whore.
I'm gonna slut on this forever.
Tattoos, whatever.
And it's like, I don't know what you're gonna say, Tara.
Well, oh, did you, did you want to come in?
Nothing.
Just, I, I was like, I think about that a lot recently because it's like really popular.
Like, I don't think in this way it's like a correlate for like trauma, but like a lot of, it's very popular for even just like girls that you wouldn't necessarily be like the type to get tattoos.
See it, like, you know, really cutesy, little tiny, like, heart ones or whatever, like, all this stuff.
But I, like, still don't think like it'll ever be something I do because, like, personally, I feel like it's like a body purity thing.
But we do need to get caught up on the super chats, guys.
So, uh, guys, get your super chats in.
I will get them really quick.
I just want to add one thing.
So, as far as like, and we'll move on as soon as I say it, but here's another example.
Okay.
So, guys who like younger women, if you want to make P-word comparisons, okay.
Women who have a preference for men who don't have beards, they're P-words.
Women who like guys who are clean-shaven, sorry, y'all are P-words.
I'm sorry, Kiko.
Do you have a preference for men who are clean-shaven?
I don't have a preference either.
Or I'm just saying.
If I do, I do love a good old porn stash.
You want a guy who's a little bit more powerful?
I love a thick porn stash, baby.
I'm just, there's some women who like guys clean-shaven.
I've never been one of the women.
I don't actually.
Those women are P-words.
The only women I've ever heard say that were usually bisexual or in the closet lesbian women.
To be honest, I rarely hear grown women say they prefer no facial hair.
If anything, that's like a red flag for them.
Okay, like I have friends who won't date dudes without facial hair.
If anything.
Yeah, you're their type, Ryan.
Hit them up.
Look.
Every single, like, I want to say, of the past three or four girls I've dated, they've all been very open that they do not like the facial hair.
That's so weird.
I've never heard that.
I really highlighted.
Yeah, I was going to say, I love a hairy face.
I prefer it.
I've never heard this.
Hairy chest now.
Love a mustache, love a beard.
Love hair.
Maybe they don't like ungroomed, like half-groomed, super like down-to-hear.
Like, you have food in your shit.
Like, that's a different story.
But, like, a beard, a mustache, a goatee, I would always prefer that, I think, over none.
It's not a deal breaker for me, but I think I would prefer facial hair.
Actually, and on the topic.
I feel like I'm dieting a little boy.
I'd also like to say that I don't care that the women that I see don't wax or shave down there.
Ooh.
I need a trimming.
I need a trimming.
You said it wrong.
I've had one time.
I feel like if you're completely bald like there, it's like, I don't know, a little childlike.
I'm down there.
What?
If you prefer a woman like completely bald, waxed, like you expect a grown woman to be completely bald down there on their arms, on their legs.
If you expect a woman to be bald on their arms, on their legs, on their vagina, everywhere, you expect a grown woman to be hairless.
I'm sorry, you're not looking for a grown woman.
You're looking for a child.
Whoa!
It's just a preference, honestly.
Some men don't like hair.
I was being kind of memeing with the women who prefer men with shaved beards are pedos, but you've gone full force with it.
If a guy was like, no, I don't want to talk to you.
You don't shave your arms or your vagina or your legs.
So are you?
I would be like, that's a little bit strange.
Into the mic straight on.
I would think that's a little bit strange.
If a guy had a preference for a woman who shaved her legs, I mean, that's pretty straight.
No, if a guy is like, I don't like women who are hairy on their arms, hairy on their legs, if they have hair on their vagina, like that is so heavy.
Let me try to scratch.
I think she's not saying, like, I don't fully agree with that, but I think what she's trying to say is not that it's their preference, but it's like, it's an end-all be-all.
Like, if you didn't shave your legs that day or whatever, he's like, I'm not even gonna fucking lady.
Like, has a guy told you that before?
I've, in my life, I've met men who are like, oh my God, your arms are so hairy, or like have made those comments.
And it's can you, do you, do you want to show the camera?
Like, your hair is like pretty.
I mean, that's not, that's not bad.
Like, I don't think so.
But some men are weird and they're like, I don't like hairy arms, hairy legs, or a hairy vagina.
I think, like, I get it.
Having a preference is totally fine.
I prefer more groomed than not for sure.
But I think it's just more of a, when it's like, with some men, it does become like a very big deal when you don't.
I'm not saying like, yes, it's very different if she decides like, I'm going to go have nature and I'm going to go.
I'm going to have my armpits like here in my coochie out, whatever.
That's completely different.
But if like you miss a couple days on shaving and your dude's already like having issues with it, that's kind of, yeah, that's kind of like you want me or a doll.
Do you have plastic surgery?
What do you mean?
Oh, I'm wearing a push-up for sure.
Oh, okay.
I thought it was.
I was like, what do you mean?
No.
Wait, I'm 22.
I'm poor as fuck.
Yeah, you don't.
Oh, okay.
Well, there's some 22-year-olds, sugar daddies and shit.
But wait, okay.
So the hair thing, but like me personally, if a girl had a bit of forearm hair, I don't give a fuck.
You don't have to shave that, but like, it is nice.
Like, shaved legs are nice just for the speed, you know?
Okay, what I'm saying is, like, a man.
Okay, so people, like, men will be like, I will not eat you out unless you're hairless down there.
Well, I don't.
Oh, jeez.
That's a little bit.
Okay, so do you ever put this into play?
Like, I have a lot of brothers.
What if they had a bad experience?
What if they, like, I don't know if you know this?
Hair carries odor.
And, like, not to be rude, I've known friends who wax.
A lot of women aren't very clean, baby.
So with all that hair, you're walking a fro, like, 80s fro.
I'm sorry.
A lot of people aren't going to go down on that.
It just shows that you're clean cut and stuff.
I'm not saying every single time and all that, but again, I've never been through that situation.
No guy is ever, a guy I've been with would ever tell me that shit.
Wait, quite.
Yeah, I don't mind.
I don't mind people waxing.
I don't, no, that's not really what I'm trying to say.
I prefer to wax at all.
Yeah, I prefer to wax too.
But I'm saying, like, I'm not going to discriminate against a woman and be like, I'm not going to eat you out because you have stubble.
I mean, you're different from him.
It's a preference.
But men do that, and that's strange.
Why is everything a man?
Why every time a man has a preference, it's weird.
I never get that.
Like, why can't they just have preferences and that's it?
Or just, that's what they want.
If he doesn't want to be able to grow with a fro, that's his thing.
It's simple.
Simple.
Oh my gosh.
I'm your hype man.
But I mean, can't it just be like a utilitarian thing?
Like, it's maybe more uncomfortable for the guy.
Women were born with hair on them.
I'm sorry.
Women were also born not wearing makeup, so maybe you should stop wearing makeup.
So that's a good point.
And men were also born without Viagra, so maybe when you have a limp, they shouldn't use that either.
What kind of guys are you getting with?
They have to use that.
That says a lot.
I'm not, but if it's covered by insurance, obviously a lot of men need it.
So.
Wait, so okay.
I think she hates me.
I don't even.
How the hell?
Most of my men are.
She's actually probably one of my only girlfriends I hang out with here.
All of my friends are men.
Most of them are actually conservative Republican men, actually.
And we all get along just fine.
Because I can disagree with people, but we just move on.
We don't sit and debate it for hours.
But Tay brought up a really good point.
Like, it seems every time a guy has a preference, a standard, or a boundary, it's always like, I mean, normally it's just like, it's typically tamer levels of shaming.
Like, it's either insecure or misogyny or controlling or dominant or whatever.
But like, y'all want to go to the P-word thing real quick.
Because I feel like that preference is rooted in something else.
Well, have you ever asked, though?
Instead of assuming, you just look what you're saying.
That's a big word to use.
Ask him.
Ask him.
I never said anything.
I never said.
I never called somebody a pedophile.
I didn't say pedophile once on the show.
I said it's weird, though.
I said it's childlike.
I've never seen this.
So if a woman has a pretty good idea.
You're literally saying it without saying it.
So stop trying to backpedal.
If a woman has a preference, is it rooted in anything else?
Or is it simply justifying?
If that pref, like what you said, if a woman is preferring that a man is like all clean shaven everywhere, I also would think that's a little bit strange.
Why do you want him to look like a little boy?
I mean, I don't think, I think it's just their preference.
If a girl has a preference, I can articulate a reason why a woman might prefer a guy's clean shaven.
Some women, when kissing, the beard will rub up against them.
Maybe they get a little, I don't know, red, what's it called?
Irritation.
Irritation, thank you.
Or maybe they don't, just they don't like how it looks.
Okay, you can have your preferences, and I can believe that they're strange or not.
True.
But I mean, it's just unfair to assume that both genders are pedophilic.
Yeah, why does that get taken to you?
Like, it just seems very extreme.
That's very extreme, I do say.
But to be fair, though, you can't assume that childlike does mean pedophilic, but it is different when if she would be straight up using that word that it is.
She's just saying it does reason because she doesn't when we don't have hair.
Why is that the first thing you guys think of?
Like, I never thought that you would have to do that.
When I'm listening to you guys, and that's the first thing you think of, is it like, why does that you bring that up?
Is it trauma?
Like, that's not something I think of.
If somebody asks me, hey, Tay, I want you to be shaved.
Like, if that's something wrong, it's rooted in something you're thinking about.
I think that's rooted in our research.
Think about that.
My research if I think of it.
So what's the research?
I want to say that.
Sociology and education.
But what's the stat, though?
What are you talking about exactly?
Wait, the research shows that men who prefer women shaven are not.
That's not what I ever said.
Fucking.
Oh, oh my God.
I'm so sorry to make my shit.
No, it's for speed.
I'm telling you.
Literally, I'm saying it's just based off of my research that I do.
It does create me to look at certain things like this a little bit more deeply.
Like, hey, why is that?
Because sociology is a study of society and what we're doing and why things happen and the people in it and everything into working.
So sometimes based off of my research, I'm not saying exactly that I've studied the shaving thing, but in things like that, where there is sometimes something is like, you know, scraping the level and there is that iceberg underneath, that is some of a topic that we do bring up nowadays in sociology.
I'm not saying it's correct or I agree with it, but with my what I study, yes, sometimes you'll want to take that layer off and think, is there a deeper reason that we see this?
Especially after all of this, Gazley Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and all this.
Yeah, I can't, I can never present it.
Is it?
I can never pronounce her name.
But after that, I think a lot of us looked at things a little bit more with a critical eye.
Like, is this something deeper?
Because it was right in front of our faces and we didn't even know.
If I'm willing to concede that, not that I would, that men who are attracted to either younger women or who have a preference for women who are shaved down there,
if I'm willing to concede that that is problematic because they want children, are you willing to concede that women that are attracted to tall men have an incestuous fetishization for their fathers because they want to look up and look at a tall man?
Is everybody's dad taller than them?
Mine is.
Almost.
If you were a kid, my dad's 6'5.
But it's when you were a kid, though.
When you were a kid, of course your father was taller.
Anything I would say.
I also said that I don't care about height, so I feel like it's kind of you'll date a 4'11 dude.
Come on.
I mean, I'm the same height.
She's not looking at the same thing.
I'm saying the same height, though.
I don't, I would prefer somebody to be like, if I'm dating a man, I don't, for a woman, I don't care how tall she is or how short he is.
But if I'm dating a man, I think I would prefer a man that's like my height or taller.
Does that mean that I don't find shorter men attractive?
No, there's definitely some short kings out there.
Listen, Dave, what you've just told me is incredibly problematic.
The fact that you would prefer to date a guy who's taller than you means that you are incestuous.
But I'm not against you.
How dare you?
But I'm not against dating.
As tall as me or shorter.
This is an affront to humanity.
You are an incestuous.
I'm kidding, by the way.
That's okay.
But you see what I'm saying?
No, I'm not.
What I'm going to say next is: yes, if that's my preference and that's your opinion on my preference, okay.
So you're allowed to have an opinion and I'm allowed to have a preference.
I identify as the correct person on this issue.
Will you affirm my identity as the correct person on this issue?
What are we getting at here?
Oh, what is the point of that?
I can guarantee you it's my identity.
Anyways, I'm next.
Okay.
All right.
Let's do the soup chats.
Let's do the soup chats, boys.
Yo, guys, get your super chats in.
And sorry, let me get caught up here to where we were.
I'm trying to see the last one.
All right, so we have, yo, Kevin Hamilton, thank you, man.
Oh, did he change his thing?
Anyways, as always, Taytay says what all of us men want to say.
Homegirl Kiko is a walking red flag, so defensive and manic.
Can we give her a hug?
God damn.
But anyway, what's your definition of romance?
Do you actually want me to ask the girls that question?
I mean, do you really want to know?
I mean, come on.
Romance?
Anybody?
Anybody?
I'm not feeling romantic right now.
You're not feeling romantic at all, Kiko?
What about, hold on, what about anything?
No.
Okay.
Sorry, Calvin.
What the heck?
What?
Wait, what?
Stephen Solis?
Second to Lambro.
Oh, my.
Okay.
Andrew Stephen Solas, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
If a guy can't get it up, do you blame yourself or the guy?
And how does it make you feel?
My chick left me for that, even though I'm nine long.
She only saw it at four.
Grower and shower.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is that a deal breaker for you?
If, well, I guess you could just answer the super chat as is.
Go ahead.
It depends.
It depends.
If it's like one time, like, I'm not going to just off the first time.
Like, you know, maybe he's nervous, things happen, alcohol, whatever.
But if like consistently, yeah, and you're not willing to take like something for it, I don't think I'm going to be, I can't have limp dick.
No.
I'd rather get some plastic than to be real.
What if he made you come another way?
Still need the D?
I don't think that's.
You still need the D.
Yeah, because like, again, I could just get a bitch, you know.
Yeah.
That has like titties in the ass.
That has like, you know, that has like titties in the ass.
Like, why would I want a man with a lip dick if I, if he's going to do everything a woman's going to do for me, then I'd rather get a woman with some like, yeah, nice titties, areolas, and the ass and all.
Can I ask you a question on that?
So you're bi.
Yes.
What's your labia preference?
Do you like innies or outies?
Innies.
I've never even noticed a difference.
But you've been, have you had both?
I don't think I ever.
Are you by two?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I'm sure.
I don't think I've ever took her pants down.
It was like, oh, that's an innie, that's an Audi.
I don't remember.
I don't really know what you mean by any Audi.
What?
Some girls' lips are different than the labyrinth curtains.
I feel like beef curtains versus no beef curtains.
No beef curtains from me.
Jelly sandwich or something.
I don't think it's like what?
It's a debate.
Like, out of all the girls I slept with, I don't remember what.
I don't think they were within.
No, she doesn't either.
And I would like a smell.
I would remember if the guy asked me to smell.
I would.
Yes.
Have you ever gone through that before?
Yes.
Wait, wait, do you tell them or do you keep going?
Girl, you better not.
Ew, no.
I didn't keep going, but I didn't exactly tell them, but I didn't keep going.
I got out of the situation, if that makes sense.
I'm too nice.
I don't want to hurt her like that.
You know, I debated going to her later and being like, yo, like girl to girl.
But like, you never know how someone's going to take something.
I want somebody to tell me.
I wouldn't want to.
I would want somebody to tell me.
Tell me, tell me.
But I'd feel way too bad.
But she got back with her ex-girlfriend a couple weeks after that.
So I'm like, that's homegirl's problem.
No.
Like, that's her.
She's like, probably she'll turn away.
No.
Okay.
So, deal breaker if the guy can't get it up.
Yeah.
Deal breaker for sure.
I agree with Kiara.
I mean, if it's like every single time, yeah, no.
I would kind of go with that same sentiment.
I realize that there's a lot of other re, I wouldn't take it completely personal because I realize that there's a lot of other factors that could go into it.
But if it became an all-the-time thing, then I would, yeah, be, it'd be a deal breaker.
Yeah, sexual chemistry is really important.
If we were married, it's a different story.
But if we're just like relationship, I don't know.
Like if you were married and then he started getting away from me.
Yeah, because I usually don't snap around.
I usually have a boyfriend and then like we're already like together.
You know what I mean?
I don't like just doing stuff people I don't know.
Yeah, but like so but wouldn't you find out when your boyfriend's gonna be a little bit more like that?
So we're already together at that point.
I'm not gonna dump you for that.
I feel like that's so like fucked up.
But that's kind of why yeah, that's why like when people say they're waiting until marriage, I'm like, no, I don't think I can do it.
I don't know.
I can't do something.
He matches everything I need besides that.
That's fucked up.
No.
Because that's what leads to cheating and adultery and all this stuff.
If you're not pleased in bed to the full amount, then you're going to go seek for it other ways.
don't cheat regardless though that's that's what most people say but no i'm not most people baby And just the original question, like, oh, I kind of, just so it's fair to super chat, I do want to.
So I kind of reframed it, but would you blame yourself or the guy?
Like, let's say the first time if he didn't get it up, would you blame yourself, blame the guy?
Would you feel bad about it?
Or just be like, it happens like next time, you know?
Don't see the need to put blame on either person.
I think it just happens.
If it's a one-time thing.
Yeah, it just happens.
Sometimes girls will like me.
Yeah, that's dumb.
What's wrong with you?
I've been totally offended before.
I've been offended.
You've been offended once.
I thought I was like not attractive.
I had to tell her that it was not her.
I remember she was around.
I was like, oh, I'm ugly or something.
But they just had ED, I guess.
Did you react like all crazy or did you just like tell them?
No, I just went to her.
I just, I don't go and tell them, honestly.
But I was just like, ah, bummed.
Okay.
We have Kuku Kiko.
What is this photo?
Wait, that's a photo.
That's me.
That's me.
Wow.
Super unnecessary.
Wow.
What is the cuckoo kiku?
I'm in a straitjacket.
Thank you, Sunday.
I'm in a straight shot.
Okay.
Nice Photoshop.
I believe that's our homie, Nil Caprio.
Thank you, man.
It's kind of cute, though.
I left my soul.
Do you want to read it?
Can you read it for us?
I left my straitjacket at the nut house.
When I start clapping, just know it's not peanut butter.
And feel free to suplex me.
I have no self-respect for myself, anyways.
Yeah, we can tell, bud.
Back to you, Brian.
All right.
Yikes.
Yo, Pollux99.
Thank you, man.
Brian, for the show.
Instead of a Frank Castle, you can give the offender the heave-ho.
Send the asteroid.
I got you, man.
Hold up.
All right, boom.
Fucking asteroid.
Sent.
Appreciate it, man.
i also have a couple sounds i i instead of uh hold on let me see if i can find them I haven't yet had to do Frank Castle.
Just maybe my tolerance is really high, but fuck.
Let me see if I can find the sounds.
I want your guys' feedback on these potential kick out sounds.
Let's see.
Okay, so we have...
We have...
Peace out.
Peace out with you too, homie.
And well, we kind of.
You've been changed, you filthy animal.
Okay, those are the three sound.
I don't know.
All right.
Yo, Chaz, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
I think with an age gap present, it's just easier to establish a respectful dynamic between the couple.
The men with options will always take the best available option.
Also, Tara, what gym do go do go to?
Tara?
Enough.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, she left.
I'm sorry, this super chat probably came in when she's still here.
We're a little behind on.
Yeah, we're about 30, 45 minutes behind on the super chats or the most recent one.
Yo, Alex, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate the support.
Just a reminder, $10.
You guys know what nicotine is?
Cancer.
Yeah, but that's why I'm like, actually, matter of fact, I also pissed too.
Oh, oh.
Well, I'm going to go fucking hit my date.
Okay.
No, but they want to, they want, you got to stay for the super chats.
Whoa.
Okay.
Yo, Gus, the $10 super chat.
Thank you, man.
How would you feel if man called you weak, short, and dumb for wanting someone that is more stronger than you, more money, confident, taller, ambitious, good leader?
Sounds dumb, doesn't it?
Men lead, women follow.
Your thoughts on that super chat?
I think he's just angry.
I think Gus needs to work on wording his sentences because every single one he sends is like takes me a second.
Well, is it like he's saying if you want a guy who's stronger, taller, more makes good money, confident, ambitious, etc., does that mean that you're weak, short, and dumb?
Basically, because women shame men for what they want as preferences, and then what we say we can have tall, six figure, six inch, all this, and no one shames us.
We can have whatever we want.
I don't really get it still, no, because just because I'm with a man who's weak or with a man who's strong and whatever he said, other ones, doesn't mean now that I'm short or not.
You missed the point.
It's just because Wordy now because I don't think those go hand in hand.
Why can't we be strong and tall and shit together?
All right.
We got Dart Sam with the Canadian $10.
Thank you.
If women don't have their frontal cortex not developed until 21, then should women not date at all until they're 21?
Men in their 18s are more immature.
There is more chance to have a power play.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
I mean, when it comes to that whole thing, I mean, you could even argue that younger women are actually at their peak agency when they're between like 18 to 22.
I think you have the most negotiating power when it comes to finding a partner at that age versus when you're 31.
So who really has the power, I think.
Plus, also, oh, I wanted to bring this up related to that.
I think women get way more experience than men do in the dating realm at a young age.
So women are running circles around, and women are, I think, are just more attuned socially to begin with.
So women are just already running circles around men their same age.
So, like, women have by the time a woman's 21, she's had way more experience dealing with men.
Well, I don't know if I want to go down this road because this might happen.
You've had way more experience dealing with men than the reverse.
I wouldn't say that because I definitely know that boys at my high school at least were going rampant while most of the girls weren't for the fear of being called a hoe or more.
But I do agree with your statement that at the same age, at least intelligent-wise, and like, you know, the power field and stuff, most women, yeah, at the exact same age growing up, have more intellectual power and could maybe manipulate a man worse than they could them.
Yeah.
That doesn't mean that I don't think that's because they have more experience or not.
I just think because we're generally smarter.
Wait, you're saying the guys at that?
I was kidding.
Please don't start.
I was kidding.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no.
But the guys at your high school, you said they were, you mean like the top 10% of guys?
I would say overall, there was more guys getting more experience.
The guys were getting more experience with girls than vice versa because guys weren't scared of being called a hoe or a whore for hopping into a relationship relationship or hooking up with this girl or dating this girl.
They didn't have that fear.
Whereas as girls, I remember all my friends super scared.
Like if they would move on from one guy too quickly, they would be the next hoe.
That was a big thing at my school, at least in my schools in my area.
I don't know if that's common everywhere.
All right.
Well, we got Eric Shilson here with a $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
These women are looking at relationships like they're a battlefield instead of a union.
Thinking men want to manipulate their partners is such a pessimistic, excuse me, pessimistic view to have on men.
I mean, that is a good point.
And I often think, like, well, okay, let's say you, a 20-year-old girl, is she better off fucking a 20-year-old fuckboy who's going to fucking play games with her, fucking chuck her, boom, just run one night stand, or a 30-year-old guy who wants a genuine, loving relationship with her, who wants to provide, protect, and, you know, wants something serious.
Which is better for the girl?
The older guy.
Definitely the older guy.
Yeah, I prefer that too for younger women.
I mean, I don't know.
Because he's 60% of the time.
I think he's more guy because I think that guy's a good idea.
It is a good point.
Yeah, that's a very good point.
Yeah, because he's more secure.
He could do more things for you than a fuckboy.
He's probably going to be around a whole bunch of little girls.
That's all he wants.
Keep messing around with girls.
That's not good.
If somebody who's older, it's more stable.
I think it would be not, I don't want to frame it from a point of view of damaging, that it's damaging to date a guy who's older, but you can make that if you do say it's somehow problematic in some way for a woman to want to date an or for a woman to date an older guy.
I mean, in terms of the impact on her life, I would assume that just getting passed around by a bunch of 20-year-old fuckboys that'll fucking treat her poorly versus dating an older guy who's going to commit to her, who's going to be loyal, who's going to provide and protect.
I just, I'm trying to do the algebra here.
It just seems like that would be better for her.
Who's to say every older guy is like that and every 22-year-old man is like that?
I mean, within the example that I provided, there's certainly 20-year-old men that are happy to find commitment, and there's 30-year-old guys that just want a one-night stand.
But, I mean, you guys live in IV.
Some of you live in IV or did live in Isla Vista.
Did you live in Isla Vista?
No.
Wait, remind me.
You guys go to Carpenter.
Where do you guys go to school?
I'm not in college.
Oh, I guess I wasn't even listening.
I was at BCC for like a year, but that's.
Oh, so you guys are just working?
Yeah.
Oh, so you're from Santa Barbara then?
Okay, sweet.
805.
Let's go.
So.
Yeah, I was going to say, oh, it's kind of tough, but like a lot of the complaints that women have that live here in Isla Vista, college town, UCSB, they can't find commitment.
All the guys do is they just want to hook up.
That's the common complaint I hear from women who go to UCSB who come on the show.
And would it be so bad if instead of getting, you know, just fucked once and then maybe that's what they want.
Maybe they just want to fuck a guy once and then never talk to him again.
I don't maybe.
Have you guys ever met like a 30-year-old man that like you guys seen as like a good relation?
That's why I've seen that before.
Even one of my friends, she's way younger and she's dating like a 30-something year old.
Man, I'm telling you right now, best relationship she's ever been in.
He does everything for her and she used to get fucked over a lot.
And she's way younger than me.
So I just know this from experience.
So I see nothing wrong with dating an older guy, especially if he's more stable and like mature.
I don't see anything wrong with dating an older guy either.
But I mean, you're.
But it depends for me on how big that age gap is.
So 20 and 33 is too old?
You can offend me.
That's fine.
I personally, I have a little sister.
Would I want her as a 20-year-old to date a 33-year-old man?
No.
So you would judge her based off of that?
I would judge her.
No.
I would give her advice and be like, you know what?
I don't know if this is the smartest decision to make and to be in a relationship with a 33-year-old man.
He has like an upper hand.
He has more control.
Although that is not always the case.
I know that is not always the case.
And personally, I do think I would enjoy dating somebody who is older because they are a little bit more mature and have more going for themselves.
I think that you literally just answered your own question.
So why wouldn't it be okay for her to date that person?
Like, imagine he's stable.
He can take care of her.
He can lead her into success.
And you're over here thinking negative and you don't even know the guy yet.
And I'm not saying, I'm not saying all men and I'm not saying you're just exactly saying that, but you never know, you know?
You have a negative thought about that.
I would say you're 20, you're really young.
There's a lot of life to experience.
What's the life she needs to experience?
Getting ran through.
Yeah, that's all I hear.
Why?
A lot of women used to settle down young.
Why can't you connect with people without having sex?
Why can't you have a...
Why do that?
You just said that.
But you can.
That's why you're still in the middle of the day.
That's why it's okay to be in a relationship.
I never said ran through.
I'm asking her something completely different.
I know, but are you in a relationship right now?
No.
So are you ran through?
Nope, never.
Okay, so I don't understand.
You guys always saying if they're single, they're ran through.
You guys act like the only reason why someone wants to be not in a relationship is a fuck random thing.
The fact that she's saying just do whatever you want or just whatever, but if she has a guy who's stable for her, wants to be with her in the long run, because being in a relationship, In the long run, we all want to be married or want something like everyone.
I just said not everybody, but you're not listening.
So, if that's the end goal, why not let her be married and be with somebody who might take care of her in the future instead of changing it and having your mindset on something negative before you even know the person?
That's just all I'm saying.
You know, you can do whatever you want.
Your life.
I was just talking about your ran-through comment.
I wasn't even listening to the fact that you're not going to be able to do that.
He did, and you're coming at me.
All right, let's move on.
You said yep.
That's it.
You said ran through.
There's more.
You're saying there's more to life.
You're an answer.
You're saying there's more to life, but yet you can't answer what's more to life.
What else?
I'm saying you don't have to be just answer the question: what else is there more to life?
There's no marriage dating.
There's no nothing.
What's more to life?
Hanging out with your friends, having forever interview.
That's what I'm getting.
Yeah, some people are totally okay with that.
Not everybody's 80-year-old grandma hanging out with your friends.
Seriously?
Yeah, my grandma sees her friends every day and she loves them.
And she has her same friend group in her life.
Relationships are the end-all be-all of life.
The only point of life is to be in a relationship.
Relationships, we're different.
I was raised by grandparents, so I believe in traditional people.
Me too.
I was raised by my grandpa's by Catholic, Roman Catholic grandparents.
It doesn't seem like it.
Sorry.
So it doesn't seem like you even picked up any of their information that they told you.
Sorry.
But I'm just saying, like, everybody else has different things that they want from themselves.
Most women say they're getting mad when she's in the middle of the day.
Okay, hold on.
Hold on.
Yeah, actually, I pee really bad too.
Like, I can't even.
I need to get to it.
No, no, we'll do the super chats.
Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah, go for it, Coco.
I'm so done.
I'm getting a headache.
I know.
This question is annoying.
Okay.
Fluorescent lighting.
Troy Gabe, Canadian, $14.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
We have Truth Savant with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Yo, we have David Drysdale.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate the support, man.
Which is more attractive to y'all if a guy can get other women or if a guy can't get any women?
And is it attractive if you find out that your guy has visited lost drip clubs?
Guys, we'll come back to that just once Keith goes back.
We'll come back to your super chat.
Gus, $10 Super Chat.
Your money, career, status, and experience doesn't make a woman more sexier or attractive.
That's what makes a man attractive.
Attraction is not symmetrical.
We want ambition to be a wife, mother, feminine, fit, young.
And peace.
We want peace.
That's a big one.
Yeah, and also with the whole like career money thing, you brought that up before in terms of what a guy would have in common with someone who's a bit older.
One of the reasons men don't, it doesn't really matter to us is because women don't really share their resources with the men the same way that men share their resources with women.
Women rarely like will spoil a guy, especially early on, the same way that a guy will spoil a girl.
I feel like it's unfair to make that assumption.
That's not unfair.
Wait, unfair to make that assumption.
I think I know a lot of women who, women, who, if they have the means to, that they, that they would.
And spoiling doesn't only have to be in like terms of money.
You can be there, support your partner emotionally.
It's a lot of people.
Physically.
Just because a man is paying for all the work.
We're talking about money, though.
We're talking specifically about money.
Okay.
So I'm talking about spoiling someone.
I think it's just more.
Sorry, go ahead.
I was just going to say, I think it's more common, I guess, for the man to be the one spoiling and having more money.
But I mean, most of the time when I have met women who are financially able to, and they will if they can't.
I've dated very successful women who make a lot of money.
They don't even want to pay for the first aid.
That's crazy.
I used to pay for my ex-boyfriend.
And looking back on this, now I don't think I should have done this.
I think we should have gone 50-50.
But I used to pay for our entire rent, all our utility bills, everything to help.
And he went and he was in nursing school.
And I'm not, I don't think that's like a good thing on me.
I look back on that.
I'm like, okay, you were stupid.
But I'm just saying that I think that there are definitely women that do that to help a man.
There are, but it's achieved his dreams.
But most women, like, if they are supporting their guy, it's going to be like, they won't do it long term.
Maybe they'll like hold a guy down for a couple months, but like not, they're going to start having contempt for their partner if they're holding it down like for a long period of time.
That's a fair.
I think that's a fair.
And fairly.
Look, some women are happy, are cool being the breadwinner, but most guys' experience, and I can tell you from my experience, most women are not offering on a date to pay the whole bill.
Yeah.
Whereas guys will do that shit all the fucking time.
That's just a stereotype, I feel like.
It's not a status.
There's even a stat of the reason why divorces are ending because women make more money.
They see their husbands as less than.
So it's like, it's proven.
That's actually a good point.
I think the stat is, is that, so 50% of marriages end in divorce.
80% of divorces are initiated by women.
That number rises to 90% if she's college educated and she's the breadwinner.
So if she makes more money for some strange reason, they're more likely to initiate a divorce.
Can I initiate a point from that mic, just go to that and continue?
Go ahead.
Oh, you go ahead.
Well, no, I was just the only thing I was going to end with is that the way I can dispel this idea that women don't share their resources with men in the same way that men do, or that women don't spoil their men the same way that men spoil women, is women.
Kiko, who should pay on the first date?
Whoever's asking the person out.
That's not what you said last time you were on the show.
You said men should pay.
I said no.
It was actually on TikTok, so I just watched what I said, and I went to re-watch what you cut out what I said, too.
Yes, we just watched it.
I said, at first, I said, I would not typically be paying, I probably will never be paying for a first date because I don't ever see myself pursuing somebody and asking them out on a first date.
Okay, so the man should pay.
I think whoever asks some woman like asking men out on date, then if a woman asks a man out on a date, says, hey, I fuck with you.
I want to go get some coffee or go get some food, she better pay for it.
That does happen, and I think she should pay for it.
Okay, let me counter that.
So if a woman had the position of, I'm never going to approach a guy, I'll wait till guys approach me or initiate with me, she can find a partner.
The majority of men, if they say, you know what, I'm going to sit back, I'm going to let a girl approach me, ask for my number, set up the date, take the lead, go for the first kiss, escalate things sexually.
That man is a virgin for life.
He will die a virgin.
Correct.
He will, unless he's exceptionally attractive, guys don't have the benefit of just waiting for women to come to them.
Correct, but this is what the society that men created.
Y'all are the ones who set all these standards in place, not us.
So we natural selves for that.
But it is naive to say that whoever pays shouldering the word whoever asks should pay.
It's naive to say that that's how it ought to be because it ignores the fact that in the vast majority of instances where somebody's asking someone out, it's going to be the guy asking the woman out.
So you might as well just say men.
Yeah, that sucks.
But the only reason why I say whoever asks to pay is for those exceptions that we have.
That's literally why, because they are exceptions.
So yeah, I agree with you.
90% of the time, it will be the man paying.
Sorry.
I don't know if they want to cry about it.
I'll tell you anecdotally as someone who's probably gone over on over 100 first dates.
God damn it.
One time, one time a girl bought me a burrito.
Every other time, it was either split or I paid.
Every other time.
I've gone on over, it's probably over 200 first dates, to be honest.
Well guys want to be the provider don't know if it's like a red flag just kidding I just love you Brian W S R Brian in the chat Wynny I used to what's the percentage that got second dates I think that's the real question Yeah, it's so nice, too much.
But uh, and that you?
My experience is, the experience of most men.
It's either split or the guy pays.
We're the trophy.
Like, I don't know if you want me, I agree with you.
I don't know if you want, if you want to cry about it or not, but like yes, are women the trophy though?
Yes, a hundred percent women are the trophy.
You, you get down on one knee and you propose to me to make me say yes, you go and buy me a pretty ring worth thousands of dollars and ask for my hand in marriage.
I'm not asking for yours and that's why you should not get married.
Don't get married.
50% divorce rate, 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
And or get a prenup yeah, they get thrown out all the time.
Yeah, prenups are not ironclad, they can get thrown out.
he forced me to resign it Okay.
Um, I don't even know how did we get to all that the career?
Oh, I will come back to the super chat now that you're back.
He was asking what is more attractive to y'all if a guy can get other women or if a guy can get any wait, if a guy can get other women or if a guy can't get any women.
And is it attractive if you find out that your guy has visited a lot of strip clubs?
Go ahead, actually stay.
Let's start with you.
No, I don't like the strip club thing and i'd rather him not get a lot of women than get too many women, because women always complain about men being around so many.
So I prefer not to have that because I can't deal with like A Drake or Chris Brown not my style at all.
Yeah, I don't really think that that determines how attractive you are for me.
I mean I I just kind of like what she was saying.
I definitely would rather have you not get many women than get a lot of women.
And the strip club thing, I mean I don't like.
I don't like it, but I got.
I mean, if it's like a one night drunk out with your dudes, I mean I think it's something that I could look past, but it's definitely not something I like.
No um, what was the question?
Would you prefer your guy to?
To get a lot of girls?
I also agree like that's not really my base that how I would base a attraction and i've been to a strip club.
So okay, I would prefer it if my boyfriend didn't go to the strip club.
I wouldn't even mind if he was a gamer 24, 7 honestly, and yeah, i'd prefer it if he wasn't a man.
Whore you, you want him to be a gamer.
He is a gamer oh, he is, and I don't even mind it.
Now, what's?
He play everything.
Right now it's the call of new call of duty.
Call of duty.
Is he watching right now?
No, what's his name?
Maybe what's his name, or actually no no, no.
So I don't know, never mind, i'm not gonna say that.
Um actually, this kind of brings me back like so would you guys really quick, would you guys date a gamer?
Yeah yes, I want to date a gamer.
I'm gonna become a gamer soon.
They're out of trouble.
I don't know.
I've been, i've been there.
Yeah, I dated a gamer for almost four years, was engaged to him and no, if i'm a gamer Genuinely took a lot of time.
What do you play?
I mean, not anything like Black Ops or Warzone, but I like video games.
Animal Crossing.
I was gonna say.
I like the Spider-Man game.
I like the Transformers Batman.
I think it depends on what a game is.
Mortal Kombat.
If you're gaming.
Borderlands.
If you're gaming as a hobby, then no, it's really not that big of a deal.
But if you're his career, though, like, what if he was like a Twitch streamer like Aiden Ross?
But if he was really successful, yeah.
But if.
Oh, but it's only the money, though.
That's sad.
But what if it's his hobby?
That's sad.
Only money?
No.
Well, if he has a job and that's his hobby, sure.
But if he's trying to make it as a Twitcher and he's not going nowhere, doesn't have a job, I'd be a little bit more.
Okay, I want to paint a picture for you guys here.
Okay.
So, hold on.
I got to pull this up here.
Gaming as a hobby is cool.
Okay, so.
Oh, fuck.
I played the wrong man.
All right.
So, um.
Would you date the following man?
He's in the top North American hardcore rating guild in World of Warcraft Classic.
He's got four level 60s.
He's got a Rogue Mane, Warrior, Primary Alt, and then the Warlock and the Mage.
And he parses in the 99th percentile on Warcraft logs.
Oh, he's good.
All pigeons.
Yeah, he's good.
He's good.
And like, I'm telling you, all pink parses, guys.
All pink parses.
You know, okay, his entire guild, full consumes, full world buffs, summoning alts all over the place.
Gamers.
Gamers.
Am I the only one that doesn't understand what's going on?
Bro, Molten Core.
Let me have a build out player.
Molten Core.
We full clear.
Not we, I'm sorry.
He full clears that in like 30 minutes.
BWL, Blackwing Layer, 30 minutes.
He's got Scarab Lord.
Scarab Lord.
Even the comments are like, what the fuck?
Yo, yo, yo, yo, hold up, hold up, hold up.
Hear me out.
Okay.
Yo, yo, hear me out.
Okay.
They have the world bosses on farm in his guild.
Azergos in Ashara on farm.
Lord Kazakh in Blasted Lands.
The Tainted Scar on Farm.
Nightmare Dragons 2.
That's four locations spawning in one place.
This is not what I do.
My brain is out this window.
Okay, world bosses, though.
90% of the time, like we get.
Sorry, he gets the tag and we kill it.
We kill the world boss.
And we have multiple rank 14 no-lifers, like PvP ranking.
You could stop getting this.
Like, he's not doing anything for me.
Get this.
We level, like, sorry, not we.
Like, the guy, he's horde.
They're on horde rights.
Don't worry about it.
Like, most passionate.
I've seen you all stream.
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, okay.
But he's, when it comes to his DPS, when it comes to his DPS, guys, DPS, he's a pumper.
Yes.
He's a pumper with his DPS.
God damn it.
For sure.
Pumper.
Okay.
And then, get this.
Like, these guys, they grief too.
Like, so they'll level up an alliance priest on the opposite faction and dispel their world buffs and shit.
So, like, they're super competitive.
And, yeah.
By the way, I want to ask you guys a question.
What the fuck?
Yo, question, guys.
For Loot Council, like, for Guild.
Oh, my God.
Guys, guys, pay attention.
Pay attention, guys.
For the Loot Council, for the Guild.
Sorry, not.
Excuse me.
What are we fucking talking about?
Wait, wait, Kira.
Try to keep it.
I'm talking about his World of Warcraft character for the past five minutes.
The guild, guild loot.
What do you guys think is like the best guild loot system?
Like okay, you have uh LOOT Council DKP EPGP, suicide kings, or soft reserve.
Which one suicide king?
Yeah definitely oh, my god DKP, I mean.
Okay, all right, that's fair enough.
like suicide boys I don't know anything about word alerted and that's I was kidding hold on And that's how men feel about women's careers.
Okay, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
It's not careers.
Okay, I'm kidding.
Okay, let me.
It might have been a little funny.
Wait, Stiffler's curious.
Ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
Go ahead, Kiara.
Ten.
Like eight?
Ten.
I would say like the seven or eight average.
I would say a seven.
Wait, so did you both say ten?
Yeah.
Come on.
That's why it's stuttering.
Stop the cap.
You couldn't even get the button to work.
I'm very slow.
Because of the news cap.
No, it's because everyone has their different opinions.
What's a 10 to somebody is not a 10 to somebody else.
Brian, you might be somebody's perfect 10.
You might be somebody's seven.
You might be somebody's four.
Who knows?
I could be somebody's 10.
I could be somebody's seven.
I could be somebody's four.
But it feels, the first podcast that came on, I said I was a seven.
And I thought about it when I got home.
That just feels so stupid and wrong.
Wait, Carson.
You can pull it up, Carson.
Carson's really toxic.
This is his.
This is Carson's favorited tab on Instagram.
Wow.
Yeah.
See, I'm not even worried.
So like, exactly.
Scroll down.
Keep scrolling, Carson.
So like, maybe some of these are nines and tens, right?
Keep scrolling.
Go ahead, Carson.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Do all guys have this.
Is this Monka TOS, by the way?
Keep going.
Just keep going.
Keep going down.
Keep going down.
Keep scrolling.
Keep scrolling, Carson.
Oh, who's it?
Wait, go back up a little bit?
Who's that chick from Smallville?
What's her name?
She's a 10.
What's her fucking name?
I don't know her name, but she's a 10.
Oh, Kristen Krueck.
That's a 10.
Keep going.
She's a babe.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So, I mean.
A lot of those women are beautiful.
Oh, I would think majority of those women I would consider a 10, too.
But who am I to mark myself off points already?
That's like, I feel like that's just introducing or allowing somebody to come in and just disrespect me even more.
If I don't even see myself as a 10 because everyone has different preferences.
But also, it's very ironic to me because you guys spent so much time on here talking about filters and editing when half of those photos, if not more, were heavily edited.
And that's your tens?
What?
There's bikini photos.
that's why some of them were though i guarantee brian i could literally see most of the lines curving on them I saw a face app like a motherfucker on there.
They all almost have FaceApp on them.
Half those girls don't even talk like that in person.
No, it's hard to find the proper 10.
Not saying they're nothing.
I'm not saying that they're wrong for that, but to use as an example versus women sitting right in front of you versus some girls you've never seen in real life.
You could be, I guess the celebrities, some of the celebrities there, sure.
But all these women, you have no idea who they even are, probably never even seen them moving besides a still photo.
And that's why y'all shouldn't be using filters on dating apps.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I already agreed with that.
That's why I've been arguing.
We literally all agreed with you with that statement.
Okay, let's get to the next super chat.
Let's get into these super chats.
We got to get through the super chats and then we're going to use filters.
We're going to yo, guys, get your super chats in because once we're done, we're going to probably wrap up.
So, yo, freeze in.
Thank you for the $20 super chat.
Kiko obviously doesn't know Tay.
Tay naturally has a deeper voice.
Her tone of voice is only rude when she says something that the world doesn't agree with.
Once again, love you so much.
Tay.
Is my voice not deep?
I have a pretty fucking deep voice, too.
It's a tone of voice.
It's fine.
We both have attitude towards each other.
It's a debate.
Things get heated, but okay?
I don't think that she has a deep voice, sure, but I don't know if you're sitting on the line.
Yeah, because you were being, you were.
I'm telling you, you were being rude.
It's a debate.
I have no issue with you.
I think you're beautiful.
It's a debate.
I do this for a living, but you said I was rude.
That's why he's saying that.
Because you were rude in that moment.
I could be honest with you.
Your tone of voice is quite rude.
That's your opinion.
You might know me, though.
I don't assume.
If I know you, look, you were being rude in that moment.
That's fine.
See how you're pointy and all that stuff?
Like, you're very disrespectful.
You're very disrespectful, too.
You got a little mad earlier.
You got a lot of moments.
You got a little mad earlier, and you had a tone of voice with me that was rude.
I'm not mad at all.
I'm totally.
My tone of voice is drew back.
No one's rude.
You've been rude this whole time.
Okay.
Stop.
You're going to act like a child.
Get some.
See, and then here, I've never said anything about your character or anything.
And he's only like commenting on us.
Like, that's like so crazy.
Let me hear it.
Let me just listen, but I'm the rude one.
You just told me to shut up in another language.
Be quiet.
Let's just, everyone, everyone, let's just keep it.
No, I'm fine.
But it's just like, don't act like you're some cool, calm, eclectic person when you're far from it.
Trust me, if I was screaming and getting up and wild, you would know when I'm getting like that.
And I'm not far.
Like, I'm not even close to being upset.
This is what I do for a living, baby.
It's a debate.
Calm down.
I don't give a fuck if you're upset.
I'm just saying your tone of voice.
You can be rude sometimes.
Guys, guys, guys, guys.
Oh, God.
Hold on.
It's a debate, girl.
No, but you're not going to tell me to shut up.
That's when you're not going to start.
Everything means be quiet.
Guys, guys, guys.
Are those not sentences?
Please be quiet.
Okay, how about you shut the fuck up?
Yeah, I can go there too.
Guy and they.
Guy and they pork board.
Guy and they're all right.
Shut the fuck up.
You're embarrassing yourself.
I don't care.
I'm not embarrassing.
Both of you.
Yo, both of you.
Both of you.
Let me do the super chats and then you guys can go finally get some.
You guys can.
Hold on.
You guys can kiss after the show, okay?
Guys, hold on.
Hold on.
Yo, Quiznos with the $20 super chat.
No accountability.
They are gatekeepers of sex and they can't even take accountability for their own choice.
Word?
Are we talking about body count?
Yeah.
Quiznos, thank you for the big $20 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Let's see.
We have Hector Navares.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
My father is 67.
Mother is 53.
I'm 29.
Oldest sister is 35.
Both Mexican.
I think if you grew up and lived elsewhere other than the U.S., you wouldn't have the same mindset on what constitutes a Shmito.
What's the word?
Pedophile.
Oh, God.
P-word.
Let's use P-word.
Sharky, thank you for the $10 super chat.
If your mom raised you to identify good men versus predators, the benefits of dating an older man are massive.
If your mom didn't train you and you fall for the predator, well, then you turn bitter like Kiko.
Do you want to say something back to Sharky?
No.
No.
I'm like, so ready to go.
Roast.
Low roast.
Low roast.
Frankie Kay with the $20 Super Chat shaving down there is just being considerate these days.
Also, when you're 34 and you've got dozens and dozens of notches on your belt, what kind of man do you want to wife you?
Promiscuity devalues you in the dating pool.
Nah, I mean.
Word.
Thank you, Frankie.
Dude, really appreciate the support, man.
Big $20 Super Chat.
You're a legend.
Jordan, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Kiko, didn't you sell your childhood shoes to an older man?
Day?
Why is hygiene preferences P-word?
Men don't want women with a lot of experience because lower chance of pair bonding and combativeness.
Yeah.
Word.
Okay.
They don't have anything to say.
But Jordan, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
EP, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Can Kiko blow an O off the vape?
How's your duos?
You don't?
Okay.
Are we a lot of vaping here all of a sudden?
If you do the tricks.
Only if you can do tricks.
I'm sorry.
Only if you can do tricks, you know.
Okay, so no strings attached TV.
Thank you for the Canadian $10.
The Kiki.
Her name's Kiko, guys.
Okay.
Does not know any conservative men.
Chase was saying some basic, basic conservative things last time, and she was so triggered, she left.
I do know many conservative men.
I think, honestly, at this point in my life, I probably know more conservative men than liberal men.
And I'm quite close to them, hanging out with them almost daily.
Spent actually all morning helping me move into my place today.
Spent all yesterday with them, all day before.
Anyways, a conservative guy has helped you move.
Yeah, helped me move into my apartment.
They're like my closest friends, I would say, or lean more conservative these days.
Because I'm aware that we will have disagreements on things.
I just put my foot down with certain things.
Like with Chase, he was saying that a trans woman is a man, period, right?
If that's his opinion, that is totally fine if that's his opinion.
If he doesn't want to date a trans man or a trans woman, that's his prerogative.
I'm not going to say he has to.
Everyone has their preferences.
I just don't like when you try to make your views as fact.
Because that's where I lay an issue because he kept saying, no, this is true.
This is fact.
And it's quite clear that you and Chase control most of the narrative on this podcast.
So no, I did not want to be a part of something that was saying that trans people are stuck at what the gender they were born as because I don't believe that.
We have two different opinions.
There's different opinions on it.
Don't make yours seem fact.
Well, I mean, I just he was saying that he doesn't view it from a lens of gender.
He views it from a lens of sex.
And someone who's hold on.
Someone who is a transgender woman is biologically male.
So he views it when it comes to the media.
He wasn't saying that, though.
When we were talking about it, I gave him a second before I left because I wanted him to get off his chest.
Actually, the main reason why I left is because he told me to make him do something or whatever.
And I was like, okay, this is getting too much.
Let me just leave.
It's that's not what he was saying.
The original question that got popped up was it asked Chase, would you date a trans woman?
And he said, fuck no.
That's a man.
That's forever going to be a man.
That's only a man.
That's his opinion.
And he kept saying that that's fact.
How are you going to tell me that people like Nikita Dragon...
That is a fact, though.
Nikita Dragon was put in a male's prison.
Why?
It never actually happened.
It was all rumored.
It was possible that it could happen.
The judge said, I can't help you if it does, but I never did.
Before we have a heated conversation.
She came out and said she was never placed in a man's prison.
But before we have a heated conversation on this, why don't we save it till the end of the show?
No, I'm not having this conversation because I'm not debating.
Is there a single trans person sitting at this table?
No.
So why are we debating something that no one here can stand up for themselves and state their opinion?
We have no business debating that.
Just like I wouldn't debate, I don't think anyone here is Asian, right?
So I wouldn't debate Asian rights right now.
We debated man versus woman and those things because that affects us all directly.
Well, I think that's what we're doing.
And we are a part of it.
Well, I mean, but I think on the topic of the Asian.
It will not be a dick in debate, though.
Okay, so like, for example, you said there's no Asian people here.
I mean, I could say, for example, that I think it's unfair that Asian people are discriminated against when it comes to college and fuck, what's it called?
They have to score higher on the SATs in order as compared to other races.
Fuck, I'm butchering this, but.
What's your point, though?
What's that?
What's your point, though?
Well, I'm not Asian.
There's no Asian people here, but I'm happy to say that I'm more than happy to discuss that Asian people are discriminated against when it comes to college enrollment.
Okay, but it's debate, right?
So somebody here is supposed to disagree with you or supposed to go back to the community.
You don't have to.
But then it's not a debate.
If we all just sit here and agree and laid, then we're not debating anything.
We can have a conversation about ways in which people that are not presenting.
But think we're here.
We're mostly here debating.
We're not just having some cordial little conversations.
We're here to debate back and forth.
Like she just said, it's a debate.
So I don't want to debate things that nobody, I'm not saying I have to be a part of it, but if not a single person at the table can fit that category, then no, I don't think we have any business discussing those matters.
Well, I mean, I think you can have conversations and debate things where there's not like someone who has a Interest in nobody wants to watch a group of all white people debating about black rights and what they're doing.
Nobody wants to fucking see that.
Sorry, I don't.
I know that.
At least I don't want to see that.
Because what do you know about the black experience or the things going into that?
Maybe if there's a couple black people and a few white people all debating who knows what side they're on, that's totally fine because they're there to defend themselves.
But I'm just, I'm letting you know.
I will walk out of here.
You're the great debate person because you're a part of the LGBTQ.
I am.
I'm gay, but I'm not trans.
I'm gay.
I'm not trans.
That's two very different things.
And you could still debate it.
It's not that.
Whether someone would want to.
This is people's lives and it's people's livelihood.
What do you mean?
This podcast gets thousands and thousands and thousands of views.
Yes, and we're debating.
This could be life-ending careers.
You guys sitting up here and saying all this bullshit.
I mean, I think it's okay to have an education.
I mean, if people are spewing a bunch of hateful shit, then that's annoying.
But even though none of us fall into that category here, I wouldn't see a problem with talking to that.
That's why I'm saying he wasn't saying it was his opinion.
He was saying this is straight up facts.
This is never changing.
This is not my opinion.
This is how it goes.
And then he's already saying hate words and hateful things.
That's why I left.
Because I didn't sit right with me.
We know nowadays we're not stupid.
Anyone can get canceled nowadays.
This podcast is starting to go viral on TikTok.
All it takes is one little clip of you saying some trans public remark, and here you are never getting hired in California again.
Like, and I'm not saying that that's my prerogative for what I'm doing.
It's because I too truly believe those things.
But I can't believe how no one takes that into consideration sometimes during these little podcasts.
Well, Chase isn't here to defend himself, but I think you did slightly misquote what precisely he said.
And I think I don't recall it verbatim, but I believe he said something along the lines of he would view it.
He's not gay.
He views it as gay.
I think that was the thing.
That's exactly what pissed me off.
He said, no, if you sleep, if you're a straight man and you sleep with a trans woman, that's gay.
You're now a gay man.
That is your opinion.
That is not fact.
That's what pissed me off.
I'm so glad you said that.
I couldn't remember exactly.
So I want to make this comment.
I'm making this comment in good faith.
I don't want to stick on this conversation too long, but just I'm curious.
So if a straight guy sucks the dick of a transgender woman, I'm just curious.
Transgender woman, is that still straight?
Because I don't know the rules.
I don't know the rules.
I'm just asking.
Whatever he sexually identifies himself as?
Yes, because I don't choose people's sexual identities.
So it's multiple.
Is it not gay for a man to have his dick sitting out there while having a double man threesome with another woman?
Isn't that weird for their dicks to be touching a little bit and them staring and having sex with a naked man next to them, but they're still straight?
I mean, there's sex.
I mean, the devil's threesome is.
Sex isn't black and white.
Like, there's ins and outs of it.
Just because you have one experience doesn't change your whole sexuality forever.
That's why I'm saying it's his opinion and it's not black and white.
And it was wrong for him to state that as a fact.
If he thinks if he sleeps with a gay woman or if he sleeps with a trans woman, that will make him gay.
That's his opinion.
That's his prevrogative.
But to say, whatever, I can't pronounce the word.
But to say that that's fact is just wrong to me.
I'll give you the final, I'll give you the final word on that.
We're going to move on.
All right.
Let's see.
We have, did we, did we do this one?
Joel Taggart, $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Scientific fact that women in their early 20s are more emotionally immature than men of the same age.
Hence why younger women are attracted to older men when wanting something serious and stable.
Okay, Joel Taggart, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Max with the $10 soup chat, emotional damage has also been proven to stunt the growth of the prefrontal cortex.
Sorry, Kiko, no dating for you until you're healed by a licensed therapist.
Do you want to say anything back or no?
Okay.
We have Oni Nofro with the Canadian $10 Super Chat.
How does the older guy have the upper hand when it is women who initiate divorce over 80% of the time, resulting in the men losing accumulated resources, representing the results of work?
Explain.
Do you?
I think that was maybe you who said the thing about the upper hand, Day.
We're both ready to go home.
I think we're all ready.
Yeah.
Well, we'll just stick through the super chats here.
We have praxis here with the $10 super chat.
Kiko and Day, you can't manipulate someone unless they're incapacitated or disabled.
Are you two saying that younger women are mentally disabled?
That's misogyny.
That's a stupid ass fucking way of thinking.
If you think people can only be manipulated if they're incapacitated or disabled, you're actually slow.
Sorry.
Couldn't you make the argument that women manipulate men more than men manipulate women?
Maybe.
Because that's why it's.
Yeah.
This doesn't happen to just incapacitate or disabled because it happens on both sides.
Yeah, no, it happens all the time.
Yeah, I mean, I disagree with that.
The term manipulate.
I disagree with the incapacitate or disabled thing.
But I mean, when it comes to finessing, bro, women finesse men way more than men are finessing women.
When men finesse women, they make Netflix documentaries about it.
A la, the Tinder swindler.
Whereas women are out here finessing dinner dates.
That was honestly a pretty good one.
That's a good point, though.
The Tinder Swindler was crazy, though.
That was a story.
It is a pretty good thing.
Even if a girl did that, I would have been like, damn, like.
That's what divorce is.
That's what divorce is.
The ultimate finesse.
Okay, Krispy.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
They weren't ever married.
We're married.
No, but divorce is a finesse.
Okay, we were married for five years.
Doctor, oh, Dr. Dre, I was married to Dr. Dre.
I want $300,000 a month in spousal support.
Okay, lady.
Yo, we got Krispy Kim with the $10 Super Chat to the girl that asked if relationships are the end-all be-all to life.
Yes, they are.
You can have all the money in the world, but you will be miserable without strong relationships in the long run.
I meant a relationship with a partner.
I think your relationships with your family and your friends are just as important.
By the way, we do have an Asian person because that's Krispy Kim.
He's been on the show, by the way.
What's up, Crispy?
Good to see you, man.
Yeah, anyways.
Yo, only no for a thing of the Canadian $10.
It's simple.
Who buys the other more gifts?
Who is expected to pay for the dates?
Who is expected to ask for marriage?
Accept responsibility in perpetuity.
Girls have a hard time cooking a.
What was that?
What was that noise?
I don't know.
Girls have a hard time cooking a plate.
Okay.
I'm trying to remember.
Okay.
Thank you for the super chat, man.
Jacob Schroeder with the $10 Super Chat.
Does Kiko think we forgot about the LOL?
But yeah, this panel thinks female promiscuity is nice until it comes to admitting their body count to a potential significant other.
I mean, we didn't ask that.
Is that you guys?
I think we've talked about that.
I feel like if they, I don't know, it's tricky.
I mean, I feel like if they ask, and you guys are far enough in, I don't really see the big problem in giving out your body count.
I think if they're asking on the first date, it's kind of just like, why is that the first thing that you're curious about?
But I don't think it's the worst thing to ask.
Okay.
Should we do body count?
You want to do body count?
Sure.
Five.
Oh.
On the spot.
Questionable.
15.
Damn, girl.
15?
Okay.
One.
Oh, whoa, whoa.
One, okay.
Four?
Four.
Fourteen?
Four, four.
Four?
Okay.
Definitely four.
I'm a virgin.
Come on, bruv.
Come on.
I'm a virgin.
Come on, Kiko.
It's already out there.
I've said it.
Multiple outputs.
That's the real number.
All right.
So my body count's three.
Yo, Joy.
Yo, G. Jill?
Jill Steven.
Yeah.
Actually, I wanted to ask you on one of the previous shows, you said that you had some bartender female friends that were like in the hundreds or something?
Yeah, for sure.
Not bartender female friends, but just friends in general.
Oh, so like some guys too.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, guys, for sure.
I mean, I've known guys 100 since we were 19 or teens, but I mean, since I've come the past few years, I've definitely met women with pretty high body counts.
Yeah.
What's the highest?
If you know?
The ones that don't know anymore, who they would probably assume it's around like 200 or something.
Does anyone here have a friend that you know she has the highest body count?
I know she's admitted.
I know a few people who have given me numbers in like the 50s and 60s, but I haven't heard something more than like 100.
And I'm talking women friends, not guys.
What about you?
Anything?
Probably her.
Oh, she is the friend.
That's crazy.
Oh, Jordan.
She's the sorry.
Yo.
I love you.
Hey, at least she's honest.
You know what?
I have an honest friend right here, and that's all I can ask for.
Shots.
Like, I'm not embarrassed about it either.
Like, that's like, I don't, I don't, I don't think that is the best thing that I've done that, but it's.
I don't have that many friends either.
Most of my friends were like in their 30s and stuff.
So, I mean, as time goes, I guess.
Still pretty.
Oh, 100.
That's pretty odd.
That's pretty crazy.
Yo, we got Jiol Steven with the 1600 yen.
Konichi wa.
Thank you.
Jacob Schroeder, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Women complain about men built societal structures, yet they enforce the six-foot, six-figure rule.
Don't forget the six-inch rule.
Okay.
Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 sip chat.
The saddest demographic of people in Western countries is 42 plus your women making 50K plus no kids family.
If studies say otherwise, that's because one-fourth of women take antidepressants.
Menopause equals zero eggs.
100 times more emotional.
All right.
That's a lot of numbers there.
Thank you, man.
Oni Fro with the Canadian $10 Super Chat.
The hypergrammy of these girls is unreal, and they can't even admit it to their motivations.
So much hypocrisy barring Tay.
It's sad but predictable.
Okay, the token Asian $10 Sup Chat.
If Asian men are at the bottom of the sexual marketplace, but when it comes to money, they are at the top.
And most women are looking for money.
What keeps Asian men at the bottom, which I think is CAP BTS for the win?
Okay.
Are you asking the girls this?
What's SM?
Social?
Oh, sexual marketplace.
I find Asian guys attractive, but I think Asian guys like black girls, do they?
I never really see them with black women.
And they don't look at me at least.
Usually white boys and Mexican boys will look at me a lot.
What I've noticed at least, the black woman they do go for is not like clear cut, peppy, like that's the type that they usually go for, but it has not had an N Flex in it.
And it's always so cute.
Like when I see Asian men, I love Asian men.
I was actually very upset last time I stepped away to the bathroom when a question like this got brought up.
And then I guess people at the table were all saying they're not attracted to Asian men and I was not there.
And then you guys just lumped me into that when I would absolutely never say that.
And I was very offended, actually.
I watched it later.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Get that off my chest.
I'd like to have a special hand to apologize.
Yeah, please.
Absolutely, nobody.
I can't do it.
It's not a push-up.
All right.
We have Alex Mac with the $10 Soup Chat.
Nobody liked this chick bottom right.
Not the chat nor anyone on the table.
I'll say it.
Wait, what were you just doing?
Jimmy.
Hold on.
Wait.
Go ahead.
All right.
Tell me more.
Hat trick.
Tell me more.
Hat trick.
Hat trick.
Tell me more.
Yo, we got no strings attached TV.
Thank you for Canadian $10 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
I want to say something, but I feel like you don't want me to say it.
Let me just get through the Super Chats.
The fact wait I don't want you to say it Yeah.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say it.
All I'm going to say is I feel like I did a job well done tonight.
Okay.
All right.
For these fucking amount of, you've probably made about, I don't even know how much money on them just sitting in super chats to comment my name in it.
Oh, shit, that reminds me.
Carson, did someone become a member?
I forgot to tell you about that.
Did you ever see a green?
I did not.
Okay, because if you do see, I forgot to tell you that, it's probably way, you're not going to be able to find it.
Just Carson, if you ever see someone became a member and you can star it, star any green things in StreamYard.
Guys, sorry if I missed it.
But if you did become a member, thank you for the support, guys.
Appreciate it.
All right.
No strings attached TV.
The fact that women all around the world were shocked that Andrew Tate message was so relatable to men just shows how men lie.
Just sorry.
Just shows how men just lie to women to get laid.
Yeah, men will say what women want to hear to get laid.
No strings attached TV.
Thank you, bro.
Bro, Kiko, you don't know any conservative men.
You're so far left that Brian looks like bro Chump to you.
I'm like center left, you know, I mean, I don't know.
But it's interesting that you got conservative men to help you move and not liberal.
And that's my friends.
I don't have any liberal men friends right now.
Okay.
Maybe if I did, I would have called them.
Yo, Calvin Hamilton with the $10 Super Chat.
Kiko is showing the world what kind of women men don't love.
I think they're obsessed with you.
I want to check.
I think they love you.
You're probably.
They really do like you.
They are in my damns hard, too.
Not good for not good reason, but Taytay gives me so much hope that real intellectual women do exist.
She has a new fan here.
Can we bring her back on the show?
Brian, I mean, Taytay, I'll leave that up to you.
What do you think?
I'm down.
You're down?
Yeah, you're in Vegas, right?
I know, so I'm going to have to come back down.
Yeah, well, next time you're in Cali, we'll get you back on.
Gus, $10 Super Chat.
It's scientific fact that a man cannot be a woman.
Intersex.
Is that like a saxophone?
An intersex.
It's like a trombone, part trombone, part clarinet.
What the fuck?
Is less than 1% of the population.
There's empirical data, statistics that allow us to talk about issues in other communities.
All right, and we have Ragu Man with the $10 super chat.
Any more makeup, Kiko?
Okay.
Take it out on that cup.
Take it out on that cup.
I really need my nicotine stick.
Your what?
My nickstick.
Okay.
So, I'm sorry.
Did someone want to come in on something?
Okay.
So that's all the super chat guys.
Carson, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
Let me shout them out.
I have one final question and then we're going to wrap.
Yo, Rose, thank you for the follow.
Nashon, thank you for the follow.
Zinx, thank you for the follow.
Frids, thank you for the prime.
Appreciate it.
And Rubius, thank you for the two bits.
Much appreciated, man.
Okay, so final question.
Do you think it's, hold on actually, wait one second.
Actually, before I do that, I want to open it up to you guys.
If any of you have a final thought or something that you want to get off your chest, dating related or final thought, open it up to you and then we'll do my question and then we'll wrap.
Go ahead.
Anybody?
I'm just happy.
Honestly, every time I come on here and everyone in the comments disagrees with me because I want to be nothing like the majority of the people who watch this podcast.
So it just affirms me that I'm going in the right direction in my beliefs and who I am as a person for the fact that they think they don't agree with me.
I'm like, then I must be doing something right because these are not the type of men that I want to be agreeing with me or on my side.
So, honestly, it's very, kind of.
Do you think that there's any truth to what they're saying?
Or do you think they're just I'm sure I could definitely miss the head on some of my opinions.
I'm not saying my opinions are fact and always correct, but I do think hard on a lot of my opinions, and that's why I stand on them.
Sometimes they might have a point.
Sure.
I'm not saying they're always 100% wrong, but over our Kane, we believe in very different things.
Okay, gotcha.
Question.
So here's the final question: Do you guys wish that men were more straightforward?
And do you think it's easy to get women as a guy?
I believe men are already straightforward.
Actually, let me.
Ooh, okay.
Let me just start with and we'll go around this way.
Go ahead.
No, I don't need men to be any more direct than they already are.
I think they're doing just fine with that.
What was the second part of the question?
Do you think it's easy for men to get women?
I would say in some it depends.
I would say not all over the whole world, no.
But I know there's towns like the town we live in, Isla Vista or Santa Barbara, where I know plenty of women who would go home with any man they met from the club that night or party in IB.
I saw many of my friends like fuck a different girl every night.
They didn't care what number they were on the list.
So I would say it depends what kind of man you are.
Like, yeah.
But also if you're like, you know, you got to date in your realm, stay in your realm, stay in your league.
But like here, no.
Maybe in LA, maybe not.
I don't know.
Okay.
I think it is difficult for a guy to get a girl most times just because, you know, they've got standards.
We've got standards.
And what was the other part?
Do you wish guys were more straightforward?
No.
Okay.
I feel that guys are already pretty straightforward.
And I don't know.
I can't really say I'm not a man.
I don't know.
Okay, well, let me reframe it.
When it comes to getting laid, is it easier for men or women to get laid?
I think it might be easier for women.
Okay.
I wouldn't say that they need to be more straightforward on every aspect, but I think for the most part, they are pretty straightforward.
I think there's a couple things, but some people have a problem with honesty.
Sure.
So that can be difficult.
And then I would say with if it's easy to get women, it really just depends.
Like she was saying, if you're out at the club all the time, yeah, it's going to be probably pretty easy.
But it just, I think it really depends on a lot of different factors.
Kiko?
Or sorry, Kiki?
No.
I got you.
I'm sorry.
I got you two mixed up.
And then Tam.
So I agree with what they're saying.
Like, I think it depends on how the man looks as well, too, but it is hard for a man to date in general.
But to get laid, I think it's women.
Women can get laid easier than a guy can.
Sure.
Okay, we're going late, so we're going to wrap there.
Yo, no strings attached.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
Kiko has to come back with Chase, please.
I don't know if she wants to do that.
Mango King with the $10 suit.
Or do you?
I don't know.
I don't want to put what you're doing.
I'm fine with going on, Chase.
I just don't want to debate religion anymore.
I think that's a stupid topic to debate.
Let people believe what they want to believe.
I think it was Hensley that didn't want to come back home with Chase.
Yeah.
Mango King.
With the $10 Super Chat.
My previous super chat did not get read.
I was agreeing with Kiko.
Men would date younger girls.
Look at our grand or great grandparents.
Men, 24, dating 14-year girls.
Wait.
Men would date younger girls.
Look at our great.
Sorry that we missed it.
I don't.
I'm wondering.
Yo, Mango King, is it cool if I snag it next show?
I mean, actually, let me.
Fuck.
Did you miss it, you think?
Carson?
I don't remember seeing another one from Mangu King, so I don't know.
Yo, Mango, let me just look real quick.
My bad, Barrel.
We got like over 70 super chats tonight, so there's a lot.
Let me get it next show, my guy.
Anyways, we are going to, okay, pull it up real quick.
Gus, thank you for the $10 super chat.
She hooks up with these types of men that think like the chat does and notice how hard it is to talk about the truth in commie, fornia.
Feminism is damaging these poor women.
Any okay, we'll leave it there.
All right, Gus, thank you for this super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
So, guys, thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thanks to everyone who super chatted and supports the show.
If I miss any of you guys' super chats, just shoot me a DM.
I'll get it.
I'll read it on the next show.
My bad, guys.
I really appreciate you.
I hope I can start breaking even soon.
We're close.
I think we're going to break even soon.
But yeah, thanks to everyone who supported the show.
Really appreciate it.
Been in the red on this podcast for a while, so appreciate it, guys.
Thanks to all our chat mods.
Zach, Candace, Nemesis, Urumeshi.
Thank you, guys.
Thanks to top producer Carson there.
That was his first time.
Can we get some W's in the chat for Carson?
That was his first time running the show.
Eric's still on the team, but he couldn't make it today.
Guys, big thank you to the panel.
Thank you guys.
I know we went a little late.
Thank you all for coming.
Had a very fun, lively debate.
Much appreciated.
Guys, we'll be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
Once again, we're switching to Sunday, Tuesday.
So yeah, Tuesday, 7 p.m. Pacific.
Anyways, guys, we'll see you next time.
Have a good night, guys.
And we'll see you soon.
See you guys.
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