Dating Talk #66
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| Thank you for tuning in tonight. | |
| You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California every Sunday and Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific. | |
| I'm your host, Brian Atlas. | |
| I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki. | |
| She's somewhere back there. | |
| She's a bit shy. | |
| Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins. | |
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| Scuffed. | |
| Okay, so yeah, if you go to Streamlabs, basically the difference is if you super chat 100 through YouTube, YouTube takes $30. | |
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| However, guys, for this episode, keep this in mind, please. | |
| TTS is going to be through Streamlabs only. | |
| There was a bit too much interruption last show. | |
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| So maybe that might mitigate it a little bit. | |
| So yeah. | |
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| Yeah. | |
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| Scuffed. | |
| Hello. | |
| Typical. | |
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| Last thing here, I don't know if you guys notice, I got this goofy thing on my neck. | |
| I've been having some ongoing neck and back issues for a couple years now. | |
| You've maybe noticed the ice packs and shit I have during the shows. | |
| Tweaked my neck pretty bad about 10 days ago. | |
| Powered through the last two shows, but pretty bad flare-up. | |
| So might be worse than my initial neck injury. | |
| So yeah, it's been a little rough. | |
| You know, haven't slept much in the past 10 days. | |
| Some muscle spasms. | |
| So I'm going to try to get through this show and the Tuesday show. | |
| I don't know if you guys can hear my voice. | |
| It's kind of scuffed. | |
| But yeah, so, and then I'm going after the Tuesday show, I'm probably going to take two, three weeks off. | |
| Maybe I'll try to, I mean, maybe I can bring in someone to host in my absence. | |
| But yeah, I'm probably gonna take at least two to three weeks off while I try to recover from that. | |
| But yeah, you know, if I could build a team around me to kind of handle everything and then get a hope coast to come in, that could be cool. | |
| But yeah, but we will be back, guys. | |
| Anyways, without further ado, after that thoroughly long-winded introduction, I'm going to have the guests introduce themselves. | |
| So please tell us your name, age, occupation. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| My name is Avery. | |
| I'm 28, and I do social media and OnlyFans. | |
| When you say, okay, you do social media, okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| OnlyFans. | |
| Any other kind of adult content or strictly OnlyFans? | |
| Just OnlyFans. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| My name is Missy. | |
| I'm 30. | |
| I do a lot, actually. | |
| I bartend. | |
| I do OnlyFans and I also do tattoo modeling for clothing brands. | |
| Rock and roll. | |
| Hi, I'm Hannah Jo. | |
| I'm college-aged, and I do OnlyFans. | |
| College-age? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, fine, whatever. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| My name is Kenny. | |
| I'm 32, and I work for the government. | |
| The government? | |
| You do. | |
| I'm an investigator for the government. | |
| You're an investigator? | |
| You didn't know that yet. | |
| I'm terrified. | |
| What, like, are you, when you say investigator, what are we talking about here? | |
| I investigate, I have to, there's some words I can't use, but internet crimes against children. | |
| Yikes. | |
| Okay. | |
| And so are you, is it like a state agency, local Santa Barbara agency? | |
| It's a government agency. | |
| Okay, you want to keep it maybe a bit? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| I can't say it. | |
| FBI? | |
| I work closely with the FBI, but I am not the FBI. | |
| But I know a lot of special agents, so be careful. | |
| No, I'm just kidding. | |
| Fuck. | |
| Okay. | |
| Already regretting. | |
| No, I'm kidding. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Hi, I'm Violet. | |
| I'm 24, and I do social media marketing and brand building. | |
| All right, welcome. | |
| Hi, I'm Gabby. | |
| I'm an actress and model, and I'm also a full-time college student studying journalism. | |
| Age? | |
| Oh, I'm 29. | |
| 29. | |
| Yeah. | |
| My name is Marie. | |
| I am not nearly as interesting as all these other beautiful women, but I'm an HR manager here in Doleda. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did you say your age? | |
| Sorry. | |
| I'm 32. | |
| 32. | |
| Yo, Eric, this pen is scuffed. | |
| Can you go grab me, keep it center, and just grab me a different pen? | |
| It's under the island. | |
| What about you? | |
| Hi, I'm Kiria. | |
| I'm 19. | |
| I'm an admin in investment banking, a full-time college student pursuing economics, and I create home content on TikTok. | |
| Home content on TikTok? | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| Like cleaning, cleaning, and household tips, home decor, et cetera. | |
| Did you say your age? | |
| 19. | |
| 19, okay. | |
| Hi, I'm Edie. | |
| I'm 23, and I'm a tattoo artist. | |
| You said 23, yeah? | |
| Holy shit, all these pens are scuffed. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool, cool. | |
| Guys, everyone's Instagram is in the description. | |
| Go check them out, give them a follow. | |
| Okay, so we're gonna go around the table one more time. | |
| What is your current relationship status? | |
| You know, are you single? | |
| You got friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship, relationship, engaged, married, et cetera. | |
| And what is your longest relationship you've ever had? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay, I'm single. | |
| I was in a situationship like last week, but trying to stay away. | |
| So we're gonna go with single. | |
| You're trying to stay away. | |
| Yeah, he keeps texting me trying to reel me back in, but I'm resisting. | |
| So. | |
| How long was this situationship going on for? | |
| It was like three months. | |
| And I was like, all right, this is about the time when you start dating. | |
| But he didn't want to put a label on it. | |
| So I was like, I don't just want to be a situation ship. | |
| So you wanted to put a label on it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you actually talked to him. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I was like, because I've just been in so many situationships, and I feel like three months, maybe, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't have these time limits, but I feel like three months is about the time when it should start turning into something. | |
| And if it's still like these once-a-week nightly hangouts, that's when I think, yeah, this is not going anywhere. | |
| So you brought up a conversation about wanting more. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And he said no. | |
| He's like, no, I'd like to just keep it what it's at. | |
| Okay. | |
| But he's still sliding back and he's like, you know, if you want to come over and watch Marvel movies and do our usual thing, like, I'm down. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm like, no, I really want to finish the Marvel series, but I can't do it. | |
| Okay, so single, freshly out of a three-month situationship. | |
| What's your longest relationship you've had? | |
| Four years. | |
| Four years. | |
| Okay. | |
| Got it. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I am talking to somebody. | |
| How would you classify it? | |
| Situationship, talking stage. | |
| We're on the talking stages. | |
| Okay. | |
| He doesn't live in the same state. | |
| Yikes. | |
| Okay. | |
| What state? | |
| Montana? | |
| More like the Mormon state. | |
| Oh, what? | |
| The Mormon state. | |
| Utah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So is he Mormon? | |
| No, he's definitely not Mormon. | |
| No. | |
| He gets asked that question a lot. | |
| How long have you been talking to this guy? | |
| I'd say like a month. | |
| A month? | |
| Okay. | |
| And then your longest relationship? | |
| My longest relationship was about four years. | |
| Four years? | |
| On and off, yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Rock and roll. | |
| Did you guys, how did you guys meet? | |
| Was it here? | |
| Instagram. | |
| Through Instagram? | |
| He slid into your DMs or? | |
| I slid into his. | |
| You slid into his. | |
| Does he have a blue check mark? | |
| He does, yes. | |
| Athlete? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Musician? | |
| No. | |
| Like, bodybuilding. | |
| Bodybuilding. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, like, natty, or like, is he, is he on some like trend? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| I think it's all natural. | |
| All natty? | |
| Okay. | |
| All natty. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, you've narrowed it down. | |
| He lives in Utah, natty bodybuilder. | |
| I think the chat's probably going to figure out the moment. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you said you've been talking to for a month. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You slid into his DMs, correct? | |
| Correct. | |
| Okay. | |
| How did you just stumble on his thing? | |
| Were you stalking him for months? | |
| What was the. | |
| Somehow I found him on the Explore page, and I follow like every hot tattooed guy that I see on my Explore page. | |
| And just started. | |
| Okay. | |
| I have a question for you. | |
| Would that stop if you were in a relationship? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, moving on. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I am in a relationship. | |
| Okay. | |
| How long have you been in said relationship? | |
| Four years. | |
| Four years. | |
| So is that your longest relationship? | |
| Okay. | |
| Are you guys going to get married, do you think? | |
| I hope so. | |
| You want to? | |
| Yeah, I do, but he wants me to propose to him. | |
| He wants you to propose to him. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because he's already been engaged once before and he doesn't want to do it again. | |
| And I also think it would be adorable to propose to him. | |
| You think it'd be adorable to propose to him? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Here, can you use this ring here to do it? | |
| To do it? | |
| To propose to him. | |
| To propose to him? | |
| I'll give it to you after the show. | |
| How about that? | |
| Oh, sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| I thought you meant right now. | |
| Oh. | |
| Do you think he's watching? | |
| Does he? | |
| I don't know if he's watching. | |
| I want you to look into this camera right here, stare deeply into the camera, deep, and I want you to say Cornelio. | |
| That's his name, right? | |
| We'll say it's Cornelio. | |
| Okay. | |
| Just to keep his identity safe. | |
| Bert. | |
| How about Bert? | |
| I don't like that. | |
| I like Cornelio. | |
| fine we'll propose to your can i have the ring Sure. | |
| Can you pass that long? | |
| You're close enough. | |
| What have I done? | |
| Cornelio, love of my life. | |
| Will you marry me? | |
| I'll make you cookies if you say yes. | |
| I think we actually have him tuned in here to the. | |
| He's in via Discord. | |
| That's his response. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| He rejected your proposal. | |
| Cool. | |
| You can send it back this time. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| What about you? | |
| I am single, yes. | |
| And my longest relationship was about four years. | |
| What's, okay, y'all, everyone's been in four-year relationships so far. | |
| Okay. | |
| How long have you been single? | |
| Oh, gosh, a couple months. | |
| A couple months? | |
| Okay. | |
| Got it. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm single. | |
| My longest relationship was seven years. | |
| All right. | |
| Oh, I'm single, and my longest relationship was six years. | |
| I'm in a relationship, a little less than a year. | |
| I know I'm going to marry this man. | |
| And yeah, before this, I was in a 10-year relationship. | |
| Wow, okay. | |
| So you know you're going to marry him. | |
| Have you guys had that conversation? | |
| Yes. | |
| We've had that conversation. | |
| He didn't want kids before me, but now we've decided we want kids. | |
| I want kids, so it's the healthiest relationship I've ever been in. | |
| Huh. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So he didn't want kids, but you convinced him or just you're so fantastic. | |
| No, not to sound like that, but he didn't realize he didn't want to seek someone out or he didn't want to be with a woman that was just trying to find someone to have a baby with. | |
| And that was his fear. | |
| And I think just being with someone in a healthy relationship made him realize that he wants my kids. | |
| Got it. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm seeing someone and my longest relationship was a little over two years. | |
| How long have you been seeing this new guy? | |
| Is it two years? | |
| No. | |
| We went on our first date last week. | |
| And so I guess since then. | |
| Oh, what? | |
| I guess since then, sorry. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm single. | |
| I'm single. | |
| And my longest relationship was about two years. | |
| Single, two years. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay, so we have one, two, three, four, five people who are single here. | |
| So I guess in today's day and age, what does single actually mean? | |
| And I kind of prompted it initially, you know, are you single, friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship? | |
| Because a lot of people would categorize themselves as being single, but hooking up with someone, being in the situationship, but because there's no label, you still consider yourself single. | |
| So you said you just got out of a situationship. | |
| So have you lined up a rebound? | |
| I've been swiping on the dating apps, but haven't found something better yet. | |
| So it's hard. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that's why I keep going back to his text messages. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you're in the talking stage, sort of, with a. | |
| Have you met in person yet? | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| Did you fly there or did he fly here? | |
| I flew there. | |
| Okay, wow. | |
| You're pretty into the sky, I savage. | |
| What about you? | |
| You got Hookup thing here. | |
| No. | |
| Friends with benefits there. | |
| No, not really. | |
| That just, I'd rather just, I like to be alone. | |
| It's either I have a boyfriend or I'm alone. | |
| I don't really like to date. | |
| I don't like to hook up. | |
| It happens. | |
| It happens. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Occasionally. | |
| Occasionally. | |
| Time. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool. | |
| Same. | |
| Yeah, I like sex. | |
| Same. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So as you should. | |
| Vouch. | |
| Really? | |
| Really, though? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You think? | |
| Do you not enjoy sex? | |
| I don't follow the logic on that one, but what do you mean? | |
| But she said she enjoys sex, and you asked really. | |
| Oh, no, I meant really as in compartmentalizing. | |
| So in other words, not going on dates, not hooking up outside of a relationship. | |
| Because I mean, it seems to me, I mean, most adult relationships, it's not let's go on seven dates, wait to have sex, and then get into a relationship. | |
| It's typically people hook up fairly early on and they continue hooking up, having sex, and then they find themselves in a relationship, right? | |
| Yeah, I'd say that's how it goes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I've never done that. | |
| I've never done that. | |
| I'm the opposite. | |
| I'm like, by third date, yeah. | |
| We got to see if we connect in that way. | |
| You've never done that? | |
| No. | |
| Stop the cap. | |
| Come on. | |
| No cap. | |
| You've never had a one-night stand. | |
| I didn't say that. | |
| But it's the same shit. | |
| I don't like, I don't really believe in casual sex, so I don't hook up with people. | |
| Didn't you say you had a one-night stand though? | |
| It's happened. | |
| Oh, it's happened. | |
| Okay. | |
| One time. | |
| One time. | |
| In my life? | |
| Yeah. | |
| One time. | |
| Yeah, but like on a regular basis, I don't believe in casual sex. | |
| Like, I just, I don't know. | |
| Multiply it by three, and that's the real number. | |
| I have a vibrator for that. | |
| I mean, I've only had one boyfriend, and I'm 29. | |
| You've had one boyfriend and you're 29. | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| It was a six-year one. | |
| What was the, from what age to what age was your six-year relationship? | |
| 22 until like, I don't know, like last year, a little bit of double backing, but what's that? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Double backing? | |
| Like, okay, so we broke up last year, but, you know, kind of went back, got like, started talking to each other again. | |
| But not really got back together, but I don't know. | |
| I'm so like attached. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| All right. | |
| Sorry, what were you saying? | |
| You said something I wanted to touch on, but it slipped my mind. | |
| Sure. | |
| Should I just repeat myself? | |
| Sure. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I said, usually I don't have a lot of casual sex, but, you know, three dates in, you want to see if you connect with somebody. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think sex is important in a relationship. | |
| It's not number one, but it's top three. | |
| So yeah, I'd like to know if we can connect because I've had some bad sex, you know? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Congratulations. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Good times. | |
| Good times. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, on that note, so you said by date three. | |
| That's usually mine. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I've definitely heard that. | |
| People will have like a three-date rule. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And if it doesn't happen by then, I typically hear this more so from the guy's end. | |
| Okay. | |
| Where if sex doesn't happen by the third date, it's like she's just not interested or just like, you know, whatever. | |
| But I mean, yeah, we're all different. | |
| We're all not every single woman is going to be the same, but that's how I view it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Got it. | |
| Got it. | |
| Well, on that note, let's go around the table on this. | |
| How long do you think you should wait before hooking up with someone, before having sex? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Be honest, too. | |
| Be honest. | |
| See, I've made the mistake of hooking up after the first date, and it does not ever go well for me, personally. | |
| So I'm trying to learn from my mistakes now. | |
| I think I think third date, I think third date. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Third, by the third date. | |
| The third, after the third date. | |
| Like if you guys go out to dinner, then maybe afterwards I would. | |
| So you would wait until the third date. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I feel like for me, I don't know. | |
| It's hard to say. | |
| For me, I'd personally wait maybe like a month. | |
| Let's say a month. | |
| Just to see if I can test myself. | |
| Well, yeah, this body filter, right? | |
| What about that? | |
| Well, we were talking for a little bit beforehand before I decided to fly out there. | |
| But when you did fly out there. | |
| Oh, it was like, yeah. | |
| It happened. | |
| It happened. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Question on that. | |
| From the point that you first actually met in person, what was the duration of time that occurred? | |
| An hour. | |
| Before y'all got to it. | |
| An hour. | |
| Okay. | |
| So long as you've talked online for a period of time, I mean, did you guys have any phone conversations? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you wait until the third date? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Have you always had that standard? | |
| No, I used to do it right away because I just am a people pleaser. | |
| And I used to think that sex would make them fall in love with me. | |
| So I was like, yeah. | |
| You know. | |
| I just wanted to do a really good job. | |
| I thought if I did a really good job, then it would make them fall in love with me. | |
| Obviously, that did not work out. | |
| So. | |
| What about, you said you were just out of a situationship. | |
| How long did you wait with this guy? | |
| It was the third date. | |
| Third date? | |
| But it still didn't work out for me. | |
| Still didn't work out. | |
| So maybe we need to move it to the fifth date now. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yeah, I didn't wait a month. | |
| Maybe you need to wait. | |
| Yeah, I think women in some ways are kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't, because on one hand, even if you do wait, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that the relationship's going to work, obviously, you know. | |
| But yeah, it's kind of on one hand, you wait too long, and that could be an issue. | |
| But if you're too quick, some guys might view it negatively. | |
| So it is a bit of a difficult position. | |
| Okay, so how long do you think you should? | |
| I don't think I can give an answer because I think it's entirely circumstantial. | |
| Like you're not going to have the same connection with everybody. | |
| So with one person, you might feel more comfortable waiting. | |
| And with one person, you might feel more comfortable just jumping right in. | |
| I think it's, there's no rule. | |
| When you say more comfortable just jumping right in, do you mean that you recognize that perhaps, for example, maybe some girls here have had this experience that if you don't hook up with him, maybe he's like really attractive, like a high status or whatever it may be, really attractive. | |
| You're concerned that you might lose him or not get him if you don't sleep with him too quick. | |
| I don't do that, no. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because there's definitely guys, like if they're they don't want to wait, you know, so. | |
| If he is worth keeping around, he'll stay around. | |
| I won't have to make him with my body. | |
| Okay. | |
| Were you about to do some snapping? | |
| What about you? | |
| Yeah, no, I would say I'm usually about three dates in. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, three dates. | |
| But I agree. | |
| I think there's circumstances where in which you might wait longer and or quicker. | |
| Yeah, it just depends. | |
| Say you're friends beforehand, right? | |
| I mean, so just jump in. | |
| And that's a choice. | |
| Maybe, I don't know. | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Except you. | |
| Sure, there's always variables. | |
| What about you? | |
| Yeah, I mean, when I go on dates, I tend to have that conversation pretty early on on what my partner is comfortable with and what they would desire, and vice versa, what I'm looking for. | |
| And if I don't feel that connection or spark on the first day or second day, I prolong it until I get to know that person and become more comfortable with them. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I think it just depends. | |
| Like, I really just go off a vibe. | |
| Like, I don't know, but the last relationship I was in, we didn't have sex for like three months. | |
| I feel like if when you feel like a connection with the person, then that's when it happens. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't put like numbers or dates to it. | |
| Just like a feeling. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I completely agree. | |
| It's all depending on the situation and like what you want out of it. | |
| I mean, if you are connecting with someone and you can really see this like lasting a long time, sex shouldn't make that shouldn't make any difference, really. | |
| But if you're like, this guy's cool for a hookup, then so be it. | |
| Sure. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think that you guys are right. | |
| It's completely circumstantial and we all differentiate. | |
| However, me personally, three to six months. | |
| Personally. | |
| Three to six months? | |
| Yes. | |
| Did you want me to say why or elucidate it? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Mostly because I did experience what you experienced and I did think that doing certain things would make whoever fall in love with me until I, you know, figured out, no, this is not how to do it. | |
| This is not the way to go about it. | |
| Thankfully, it only happened once. | |
| So with my last relationship, I made him wait about three to four months, mostly because that's when the honeymoon, three to four months after exclusivity. | |
| So again, that could also range. | |
| But that's when the honeymoon phase ends. | |
| So I feel like that's a good time to lock it in. | |
| You know, like this is like the last step before, you know, because I date to marry. | |
| So it's like, I don't know. | |
| I don't know if I explained that right, but I feel like you guys understand what I'm trying to say. | |
| But so you said that previously, this is a new rule of yours, waiting three to six months, correct? | |
| Well, it happened after that one occurrence, yes. | |
| That one occurrence where you hooked up too soon and he ghosted you or what? | |
| No, it was more like a friends of benefits situation with a guy too old to be doing that with someone my age at the time. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| How old were you? | |
| How old was he? | |
| I was, I just turned 15 and he was a junior in college. | |
| That's a yikes, okay. | |
| That's a yes. | |
| Yikes. | |
| She yeah, yeah. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| I thought it was gonna be like you're 90, 18 and he's like in his 30s. | |
| No. | |
| 19, some shit like that. | |
| You're a victim. | |
| That's Jesus Christ. | |
| Okay. | |
| So and besides that one example, were there other situations where you were hooking up with people kind of more quickly or? | |
| Well, if I'm being perfectly honest, after that occurrence has ended, when it did end, I didn't think that I was worthy of love at all after that because, you know, like she said, I was a victim or whatever. | |
| So I didn't really think that, you know, I was already scarred. | |
| I grew up very religious. | |
| My virginity was gone. | |
| So I kind of hooked up a little bit and then I found religion again. | |
| And I know this is like, I'm not a born-again virgin or anything, but then I found myself again and I was just like, yeah, this isn't going to work. | |
| So whenever I was in the mindset to date again, that was the rule. | |
| So my first and only boyfriend, I did wait. | |
| And then now I'm going to wait with the next one. | |
| Okay. | |
| Mm-hmm. | |
| Okay. | |
| Got it. | |
| Can I ask a question? | |
| Yeah, go ahead. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is this solely based on like sex or the control that you want with it? | |
| You mentioned that you mentioned that you made him wait six months. | |
| Oh, I didn't like, I mean, I had a conversation with him about it, like, once I was comfortable enough. | |
| And I was like, okay, I'm not really comfortable having sexual relations with you. | |
| I didn't tell him what happened. | |
| I just wasn't comfortable with it. | |
| And then he was just like, okay. | |
| And then whenever I was comfortable with it, we just did it. | |
| But he never really initiated anything like that. | |
| I'm not sure what I knew about it. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| Sorry, I was just curious. | |
| No, that's fine. | |
| What about you? | |
| I typically like to talk to someone for a good amount of time and get to know them before anything happening. | |
| Into the mic, please. | |
| Before anything happening. | |
| So how long? | |
| At least a month of talking. | |
| At least one month. | |
| Yeah, like one, two, three months talking, getting to know them. | |
| I like to talk to someone for maybe a few weeks before even meeting up with them, just to like test the waters of who they are or stuff like that. | |
| But have you had any previous experiences where you just hooked up really quick? | |
| I had, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Like, it's sometimes called like a ho phase, party phase. | |
| You know, you don't like that. | |
| Of course I did, yeah. | |
| Oh, oh, okay. | |
| I thought you were like grimacing at the term ho phase, but guys can have ho phases too, I guess. | |
| So everyone's had ho phases, I guess. | |
| I don't know about everybody. | |
| What's that? | |
| I wish I had one. | |
| Oh, my. | |
| Don't say that. | |
| That's. | |
| Haram! | |
| Okay. | |
| Yo, the audio kind of seems a bit low. | |
| I don't know if you can boost it to 80, Eric. | |
| One quick reminder, and I do want to hit on this topic. | |
| Guys, TTS is through Streamlabs only. | |
| Just a reminder. | |
| TTS is through Streamlabs only now. | |
| Here, let me just get this one, though, just to clarify. | |
| James Wilson, thank you for the Canadian 140 man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Yeah, maybe, sorry if this, you thought it would go through as a TTS. | |
| Just only through Streamlabs is TTS. | |
| Question for Brian, and in No, that you've said this before, however, you have a lot of new viewers, subscribers, so can you please explain the seven on the caller for everyone cheers? | |
| I might reveal that maybe on episode 77. | |
| Maybe. | |
| We'll see. | |
| But yeah, it's kind of a mystery. | |
| So don't worry. | |
| It's not like some cult shit. | |
| But yeah, it's just. | |
| Anyways, okay. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you, James. | |
| Merci Bucou pour le Canadienne. | |
| Okay, so I kind of wanted to come back to what you said and a couple of you said. | |
| So shifting standards on this, which I think is kind of interesting. | |
| So my feeling on this is, and it rubs me the wrong way, and I want to make it clear. | |
| Like, obviously, it's totally, you know, if you want to wait until marriage and you previously slept with 100 people, that's your call. | |
| However, like, I think a lot of men and a lot of guys are going to look at that and be like, well, you had one standard before and now you've shifted it. | |
| And again, 100% your call. | |
| It's your call. | |
| But men are also free to feel a certain type of way about this shift in the same way that, for example, I guess I could give maybe a somewhat equivalent. | |
| So let me get your thoughts on this, guys. | |
| Let's say you've been in a relationship with a guy for six months. | |
| Sorry, excuse me, situationship with a guy for six months. | |
| You really like him. | |
| You want him to commit to you, but he says he likes to take things slow. | |
| Somehow you find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with he initiated the commitment conversation after only three weeks of dating. | |
| Would that make you feel a certain way? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You'd feel like, well, what, why don't you want to commit to me? | |
| But all these other previous ex-girlfriends. | |
| No, I think that's showing growth and change. | |
| Yeah, because maybe it obviously didn't work out for him. | |
| So maybe he's trying something different now. | |
| How does that reflect the person that he's dating now? | |
| It's showing growth that he previously had long-term, he got into long-term relationships early, and now he's in a perhaps non-monogamous situationship with you for six months. | |
| I'm not sure I see how that's growth. | |
| I'm not saying that that's a wrong thing necessarily. | |
| That's fair. | |
| It could be the other way. | |
| It could be negative, but at least he's trying something different. | |
| I mean, he's showing habitual patterns that he's not currently interested in. | |
| So he's showing a pattern of behavior that, and it seems to be that he is non-monogamous in this situationship, is what you're stating. | |
| Am I wrong? | |
| What's that? | |
| Am I wrong to assume that this individual is not participating in monogamy in the situationship? | |
| Well, it's a situationship, so I'm maybe it's monogamous, maybe it's not. | |
| It's fluid, okay. | |
| Yeah, I would consider it a red flag. | |
| If you're not sure about how you perceive me or want to be with me six months in and you're still wanting to see other people and you have previous record of doing something otherwise, then no. | |
| Your habit is off and I'm not interested. | |
| Yeah, I would think he's playing games. | |
| Like, what's up? | |
| Well, being in a situationship for six months is ridiculous in itself, not the fact that his past. | |
| It kind of is, but I think people find themselves. | |
| If it's a problem for the girl, then... | |
| It depends on the communication. | |
| Sure. | |
| I mean, here's, did you guys have, want to come in on this? | |
| I just, I was in a situationship for two years once. | |
| So to me, like, six months is, it's not okay. | |
| It just, it sucks. | |
| And then to hear that he was doing something different before, it just seems like she's not the right girl then. | |
| Here's maybe a better example than this. | |
| So let's say you've been dating a guy for six months. | |
| Let's say it's a relationship. | |
| He's kind of a homebody. | |
| He doesn't really like to go out too much. | |
| Maybe occasionally you guys get dinner, but he doesn't really take you out. | |
| You like him and he likes you, but doesn't really take you out, doesn't get you gifts, no vacations, anything like that. | |
| You find out that the last three relationships he had, he treated his girls all the time to fancy dinners. | |
| He paid for vacations. | |
| He'd get them gifts. | |
| All his previous relationships, but with you, he doesn't. | |
| Feeling on that? | |
| Yeah, that would make me really sad. | |
| That would make me feel like I'm like the least special out of everyone he's dated. | |
| Sure. | |
| You get friend zoned after that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like you're just a homie. | |
| The guy who gets friends. | |
| Like if you, like, yeah, we're just homies then. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I feel like it depends on the person. | |
| It depends. | |
| You can't, let's try to avoid it. | |
| It depends. | |
| Okay, well. | |
| It's just like everything can depend on. | |
| I think it's unfair to judge somebody on their past. | |
| If he did treat all his past girlfriends like that, then the best thing you can do is just ask him why. | |
| If it's an issue with the relationship, then lay your grounds for what you expect from each other. | |
| If not, go your separate ways, in my opinion. | |
| It could be that he's feeling hurt still from the last experiences, like he gave too much of himself to those girls, and he's afraid to do it again. | |
| If that's the case, he should communicate it, but that won't happen unless you address what's making you uncomfortable. | |
| Like, hey, I found out you did all these things for these girls. | |
| What's different about me? | |
| Do you not see a future with me? | |
| And if he can't answer that, is it? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I was thinking maybe it's a little unhealthy to compare yourself to his past relationships. | |
| So maybe just stick to the own standards that you have set. | |
| So if you're like, okay, I like these certain things, you know, and he's not doing it, then that's a problem. | |
| But if you don't care about that stuff, then why does it matter? | |
| That's true. | |
| I mean, for me personally, like, I'm like a big adventure bug. | |
| I love to travel. | |
| I love to like get out and do things. | |
| And if he's a homebody, like, that's not going to work out as is. | |
| And it, like, aside from the gifts, like, I could afford my own stuff. | |
| You know, I don't need the gifts, but it's like the big red flag for me would be the homebody aspect, you know, because I like to get out. | |
| I like to go travel and I want to do fun shit. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| Then let's perhaps exclude the homebody component. | |
| Okay. | |
| And just he bought all his ex-girlfriends' gifts. | |
| He paid for, he paid for dates, he paid for vacations. | |
| But with you, no. | |
| He probably realized he was attracting the wrong women with all of that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I feel like in a relationship, it should be like a 50-50 split. | |
| Like, you know, I like to spoil my dudes too. | |
| You know, like when I'm dating someone, I genuinely like to pay for dinner. | |
| I like to pay for concert tickets. | |
| I like to be out and do things that are fun. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I have no problem buying that. | |
| I'll have you answer it, but really quick. | |
| You mentioned 50-50 relationships. | |
| Who here is in favor of 50-50 relationships? | |
| Actually, can I say I prefer 100-100? | |
| Nobody should be giving their elders. | |
| Okay, semantics, but okay, yeah. | |
| But just another show of hands, I didn't see every who believes in 50-50, 100-100 relationships. | |
| What does that even mean, though? | |
| Wait, so hold on, keep your hands up. | |
| Do you mean like money? | |
| Like materialistic things? | |
| Well, I mean, I think that's often the paradigm in which it's viewed in. | |
| But I mean, it could come down to household labor in that way. | |
| I often hear, though, I mean, when it comes to 50-50, usually the protection component is not part of it. | |
| So, for example, like the expectation that your male partner protects you in the event of a home invasion, for example, or killing spiders. | |
| That typically. | |
| Oh, I need that. | |
| I need protection. | |
| I can kill spiders. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Hell yeah. | |
| There you go. | |
| But so into the mic, please. | |
| Are you talking more about like roles in the relationship? | |
| Whereas 50-50. | |
| Okay, got it. | |
| So, like, I mean, the obvious ones that occur to me is paying for the first date, providing. | |
| So, do you want to be 50-50 with the person? | |
| Do you want maybe in a long-term relationship? | |
| You know, some arrangements, there's a partner that's stay at home, taking care of the kids, the family, whereas the other person's the breadwinner. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| I didn't see everyone who raised their hand for 50-50, but yes, 50-50. | |
| No, so you two know on 50-50. | |
| No, no, on 50-50. | |
| I don't agree with all the qualities. | |
| Don't agree? | |
| What about you? | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Go into that a little bit. | |
| Why? | |
| Sure. | |
| I think nowadays, I'm not going to say all men, but a lot of men look to women to be everything, right? | |
| We have to have jobs that make a lot of money. | |
| We have to. | |
| Well, most men that I talk to do. | |
| I see your face like most men that you talk to. | |
| If we're talking about 50-50, if they're paying half the rent, they better have some money under their hands, right? | |
| So if we're going 50-50, no, I think that's bullshit. | |
| As a woman, I'm coming in there like, okay, I'm literally going to do everything and anything you want, okay? | |
| In the bedroom, you know, blowjobs are jobs, honey. | |
| So yeah, absolutely. | |
| I want you to pay for all of my shit. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| That's feminism. | |
| Oh. | |
| Here we go. | |
| Before I responded, one little maybe you guys had a response over here. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sorry. | |
| So when you say, I'm just piggybacking off what you said. | |
| Yes. | |
| So a lot of the men, especially the men who like to watch this show, love to like throw crap onto feminism. | |
| And I'm not a feminist myself, so I can see both perspectives. | |
| However, men are also victims of feminism or the feminist movement because the feminist movement tells women that, I mean, inadvertently. | |
| So because you could be everything, you could be anything you want to be. | |
| Now, you know, we're equal with rights and all that fun stuff. | |
| We could be anything we want to be, but we're interpreting it as we need to be and do everything. | |
| And the men are also now interpreting it like that. | |
| So I just, I don't believe in 50-50 relationships. | |
| And I personally want to be a stay-at-home mom one day. | |
| So it's just, it's not going to cut it. | |
| It's not going to work out. | |
| You know, like what? | |
| The woman's supposed to pay half the bills and do all of the housework. | |
| That just doesn't make sense. | |
| That's like 70-30. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's more what I'm talking about. | |
| Like, at least pay maybe 30% of the bills and she does more of the housework. | |
| Like, it has to be a certain, you know, just can't be like, you know what I mean? | |
| Yeah, I feel like kids make a huge difference in this conversation. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So we're just having kids. | |
| So we're the only ones having kids. | |
| I mean, we're spending nine, ten months, really. | |
| And you're just going to be a little bit more. | |
| Yeah, you're going to base your relationship off of that, even if you're trying to have kids with this person. | |
| No, but I think, you know, feminism isn't a bad thing. | |
| Of course, there's always going to be extremists, right, that are like, oh, just hate men, just hate men. | |
| I don't believe that. | |
| Isn't feminism all about equality? | |
| No, it is about equality for sure. | |
| But I think there's more to it. | |
| We've been completely erased from history. | |
| And now. | |
| Hilius. | |
| Hilius. | |
| And now. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Wait, wait. | |
| Feminism is about equality. | |
| Let me just hold on. | |
| Just hold on. | |
| Even now, there have studies that have been shown that quite literally show that when women start dominating a man's career, the cost of that job goes down, right? | |
| So once women go into the field, how much they're making goes down because it's women now, right? | |
| They don't really care about us as much. | |
| Hilarious. | |
| I mean, you can see that now with just health care, you know? | |
| I mean, I can't go to every state and have necessary health care. | |
| That's really scary for me, right? | |
| And that's where I'm coming from: is like, no, we should have, you know, the same abortion laws, right? | |
| Abortion laws, yes. | |
| Yeah, and also at the same time, it's becoming more dangerous for women because in certain fields, like I forgot the statistics, but in certain fields, women do make the same amount as men. | |
| And I'm from New York, so in New York specifically, women outearn men. | |
| In the age group from 20 to 40, women outearn men. | |
| We're more educated, too. | |
| Yeah, that's so all educated women in Manhattan alone outearn men. | |
| And this is, at least over there, it's making it really dangerous for women because men still want to feel dominant and they will inadvertently try to dominate the woman in another way, like a domestic violence short. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know, or emotional abuse to try to be like, you know, I'm the man, even if you're making the more money. | |
| Because even if you're not emasculating him, if you're making more than him and you're still splitting at 50-50, you'll have more saved, you'll have more invested, and you'll feel bad. | |
| Depending on the man, but I respect that. | |
| I definitely respect that, but what you have to understand is globally, men hold far more money than women ever will. | |
| So maybe not will, but right now. | |
| 80% of consumer spending is done by women. | |
| Women have the majority of debt. | |
| Yes. | |
| So. | |
| But I mean, the most billionaires, millionaires are men. | |
| I mean, that's the apex fallacy. | |
| You're looking. | |
| I'm not talking about that. | |
| The apex fallacy. | |
| You're looking at the top percentage of men, which happen to be a very small proportion of men and attributing to that as to, to men as a class, as a group. | |
| But don't you do that when it comes to, I can't bring it up. | |
| I'm about to use a P-word that we're not allowed to use. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I don't see how that's at all relevant. | |
| Oh, I do. | |
| Okay, so 99% of sexual perpetrators are male. | |
| That's false. | |
| No, look it up. | |
| Look it up right now. | |
| What about all these women teachers that are... | |
| Let me get into that because this is quite literally my background. | |
| This is what I do for a living. | |
| So I can tell you that it is 99% of sexual perpetrators are male. | |
| You can look that up right now. | |
| That's false. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm telling you, this is what bugs me about men who say things like that. | |
| That is willful ignorance. | |
| You can absolutely look that up and educate yourself right now, and you don't. | |
| Why? | |
| It's not true. | |
| When a high school on its face, it's not true. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| You have to look it up. | |
| How can you say that's not true? | |
| What's your background? | |
| Where are your statistics coming from? | |
| It also doesn't help that when a young man is like assaulted by an older teacher instead of getting support, you see the comments full of, wow, he should feel grateful. | |
| What a lucky boy. | |
| And I'm not saying that men cannot be raped. | |
| They are absolutely being raped, but they're being raped by other men. | |
| And they don't stand up for victims. | |
| Yes. | |
| Women can absolutely rape. | |
| I've seen bad cases in the cases that I've worked on with women. | |
| But this is a real statistic, and I'm going to say it again. | |
| And you're going to say that's not true, but you can easily look it up. | |
| So that's willful ignorance if you don't want to. | |
| 80 to 90 percent of sexual, or excuse me, child, child, you know what I'm saying, are male. | |
| 99% of sexual perpetrators. | |
| You've just given me two different numbers. | |
| Right. | |
| Previously, you said 99%. | |
| But we're talking about pedophilia. | |
| Yes, we're talking about pedophilia. | |
| I specifically instructed you before the show. | |
| We're not going to be talking about that. | |
| Not to say it. | |
| And then when I looked at you, you tried to say it, you looked at me here. | |
| I don't see how that's relevant to the conversation. | |
| It is relevant to the conversation. | |
| We're talking about men and women. | |
| Men have to be. | |
| You're totally derailing the conversation. | |
| We were previously talking about the wage gap. | |
| Of course, and I'm talking about the apex fallacy. | |
| And you want to be talking about something totally unrelated. | |
| And then it got into feminism, right? | |
| So then we were talking a little bit about feminism. | |
| And then I'm coming on here saying, okay, we're looked at as women, as these horrible, awful people. | |
| And yet what are you talking about? | |
| It's a big difference between saying that. | |
| Who? | |
| Okay, look at the chat. | |
| Oh, everyone's like hating me. | |
| It's okay. | |
| It's okay. | |
| This is something that you can, yeah, it's something you can easily look up. | |
| I'm not sitting here saying like, oh, we're not going to talk about that statistic. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, fine. | |
| Let's take children out of it. | |
| That's fair. | |
| And yes, but still, based off of that, 99% of sexual perpetrators are male. | |
| That's a real statistic. | |
| I don't see how that's at all relevant to this conversation. | |
| Right. | |
| But you're talking about men and women. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't see how that's relevant at all. | |
| Oh, see, I do. | |
| I think there's a big difference there. | |
| And are you just trying to point out that men do bad things? | |
| Like, I don't understand. | |
| We were talking about. | |
| I don't. | |
| Okay, yeah. | |
| Maybe I have derailed the conversation a little bit and I can definitely respect that. | |
| I think I'm coming more from a different background, right? | |
| I've seen the worst of humanity. | |
| And so I'm coming forward saying, oh, all these people are like hating on women, saying X, Y, and Z about women. | |
| But there's so much more to the story. | |
| If they directed their energy that they used to fuel hate towards women who live sexually fulfilled lives towards men who sexually assault, I don't know. | |
| I just feel like that's a better way to funnel all that energy. | |
| The fuck are you guys? | |
| I don't even know what you guys are talking about. | |
| Like, I literally were talking about 50-50. | |
| Correct. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| Then we got into feminism. | |
| We got into other things. | |
| Things got derailed. | |
| Yes. | |
| No, I don't believe in 50-50. | |
| But you're feminist. | |
| Yes. | |
| How do you reconcile that? | |
| No, I respect that. | |
| I think when it comes to parenting, sure, I think it should be 50-50, obviously. | |
| Do you? | |
| Most feminists are not in favor of shared custody. | |
| Default 50-50. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Feminists are not for 50-50 when it comes to raising children. | |
| When it comes, for example, if there's a custody dispute, most feminists are not in favor of 50-50. | |
| In fact, in Florida, a feminist organization, I believe it's called now, the National Organization of Women, fought against a bill that would have given men, men and women, presumptive 50-50 custody of children in the case of a divorce, for example. | |
| Women fight against that. | |
| Feminists, sorry, excuse me, feminists fight against that. | |
| Well, of course, I think there's always going to be an extreme feminist, and maybe I am one, right? | |
| I can certainly look at that based off of my background. | |
| All for women. | |
| No, I'm just kidding. | |
| But yeah, no, I think in, isn't it in California, it's like not 50-50 custody, but 70-30 as far as how much men pay in child support. | |
| I think it's something like that. | |
| Like men only pay 30% of their entire income, and women, it's generally like far more than that. | |
| Well, child support and payments overwhelmingly go from men to women, not from women to men. | |
| Correct. | |
| I've never heard this stat of when a woman has to pay child support, she's paying 70% of her income. | |
| Oh, I think it's a good idea. | |
| I don't know where you're pulling this. | |
| That's like ridiculous. | |
| It's care towards the child. | |
| The woman tends to put 70% of her income towards that child, where the male is putting 30%. | |
| Like they only legally have to put 30. | |
| The woman is not obliged to put any income necessarily, but she is putting 70% where the man is legally obliged to put 30%. | |
| Correct. | |
| And some men, when they get divorced from their, this has happened to my friend. | |
| Hold on. | |
| The mailman donated $100. | |
| This lady is completely insane. | |
| Number one, she's wrong. | |
| Number two, no other woman is standing up against this claim. | |
| Yeah, I'm all alone today. | |
| This is fucking ridiculous. | |
| You see it when a group of women all say they are a 10 tenths. | |
| Pure delusion. | |
| None of us said that. | |
| I don't think I'm a 10. | |
| You just think we're narcissists because you feel insecure when you look at the female. | |
| I think he thinks he's a 10. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, that's funny. | |
| Okay, let's, okay, let's go back to your questions then. | |
| This is too intense for you. | |
| So 50-50, you say you're against 50-50, yet you're feminist. | |
| Yes. | |
| Isn't feminism supposedly about equality? | |
| Yeah, I think it is equality. | |
| And once we, you know, as women do have more equality, then it should be more 50-50. | |
| But we have to- What do you mean by more equality? | |
| Sure. | |
| Because all the law, you know, we have everything in America. | |
| Oh my gosh, of course. | |
| No, I'm not saying that we're like living in Iran or something like that or India, right? | |
| Which are just like so awful against women. | |
| But I still think that there are issues in this country against women. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And abortion being one of them, which I know is like a tough subject, but and I'm totally pro-life, pro-choice. | |
| It's up to you. | |
| I just think that as a woman, if I go into $161 donated $100. | |
| Hi, Brian. | |
| Sorry about your neck and the people at the table being a pain in the neck. | |
| How can women keep their body count low if men don't want to wait beyond three dates for sex? | |
| Can women show their interest in another way? | |
| Yo, Alec, thanks for the donation, man. | |
| Appreciate the kind words. | |
| As far as the body count thing goes, I mean, I think you can hook up with a girl can hook up with a guy relatively soon and still keep a low body count. | |
| I mean, that comes down to vetting the guy, talking to the guy. | |
| Is he is there, is he going to be leaving the state soon? | |
| Are you traveling? | |
| Don't hook up when you're traveling. | |
| I mean, there's definitely ways to keep a low body count, but thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Continue with your point. | |
| Wait, I'm sorry. | |
| I already forgot what I was talking about. | |
| You're telling us the rights that we have. | |
| Or the rights that we need. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Yes, absolutely. | |
| No, I'm not saying, yeah, I'm saying we do live in a first world country where, you know, we do have rights. | |
| I'm allowed to vote. | |
| But I mean, it wasn't until like 1970-something that women could open up a credit card without their husband's signature. | |
| Before that, we couldn't, right? | |
| So these are all brand, or not brand new, but relatively new, right? | |
| These things have happened in modern days. | |
| This is back in the 70s. | |
| Our parents were alive in the 70s. | |
| You know what else happened in the 70s? | |
| The Vietnam War. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Men were exclusively drafted. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Pol Pot also was really bad during that time. | |
| Well, yeah, there's Cambodia. | |
| Sure. | |
| So. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, you say that we don't have equality yet between men and women, correct? | |
| To me, correct. | |
| In the U.S., correct. | |
| Okay, so name one right that a man has that a woman doesn't. | |
| Again, healthcare. | |
| So, right, if I, let's say I'm pregnant, God forbid I lose my baby and I go to Arkansas. | |
| I do not have access in Arkansas to legal, legally go into a clinic and get an abortion, which, you know, would happen if my baby was unfortunately dead inside of me, right? | |
| So those types of things, right? | |
| Let's say I was bleeding out or something, and it was from, you know, something happened in the birth canal, all that stuff. | |
| Like, we don't get that, right? | |
| That's scary to me. | |
| That's scary to my children, for my kids. | |
| Well, you know? | |
| Okay, so I would want to prompt you to give me one example outside of reproductive rights because men have no reproductive, men have no reproductive rights in this country. | |
| So it's not clear to me if that's an equality issue. | |
| So besides, and Roe v. Wade just pushed it back to the states. | |
| So some states where you still have that right. | |
| So besides that, the only thing that occurs to me, one right that men have that women don't, is in some states, it is criminalized to be topless. | |
| I know that sounds silly, but that's honestly the only thing. | |
| And it's not, some states you can be topless as a woman. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That is honestly the only right that I can think of that women, some women in some states do not have. | |
| Right. | |
| But so I ask you again, what right do men have in this country that women do not? | |
| Yeah, based off of laws, yeah, it's mainly abortion, right? | |
| But again, we've gotten these rights really recently. | |
| Again, we couldn't own a home by ourselves until like 19 something, right? | |
| I'd have to fact check that. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Okay, so you are into fact-checking. | |
| That's a good thing. | |
| So yeah, that's just mainly where I'm coming from. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think abortion is a big topic for me because of my work that I do. | |
| A lot of children do become pregnant, and I think legally they should not have to carry that baby. | |
| Do any of the girls on the side of the table want to address that? | |
| Abortion? | |
| Yes. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| Not to stir the pot or anything. | |
| Yeah, stir the pot. | |
| No. | |
| You can stir the pot. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Please stir the pot. | |
| At least you. | |
| No, I love hearing that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I love hearing from women, like, what they think. | |
| I am more so-like. | |
| Into the mic, please. | |
| I'm more so pro-life. | |
| Sure. | |
| So I believe there are steps that you could take before it comes to that. | |
| 100%. | |
| You know, like is it religious due to your birthday? | |
| I am religious. | |
| Okay. | |
| But also personally, like, I don't think anyone should have the right to decide if a baby who can't decide for itself whether they can leave. | |
| Would you keep a child that you got pregnant because you were assaulted? | |
| Would you keep that? | |
| Honestly, I think I would, but that percentage is very low in terms of who goes and gets an abortion. | |
| Like, statistically speaking, through how many people are. | |
| Don't those individuals deserve access if they do not want to be able to do that? | |
| I think that could be a topic that we could talk about. | |
| Like there could be like for those people. | |
| But it's like once you let something, once you let something be so easily accessed, it's really hard to draw a line of like when it stops or like when the cutoff is, you know. | |
| People are not getting abortions for fun. | |
| I can promise you that. | |
| I know. | |
| No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying at all. | |
| Yep. | |
| But I'm just saying it's really. | |
| Economically, let's say you couldn't take care of it. | |
| You don't have the family. | |
| You don't have the foundation. | |
| And you're now in a state that abortions are not available to you. | |
| You would still keep that child even if it ends up with you two on the street? | |
| First of all, I wouldn't. | |
| You're disproportionately putting that child at a disadvantage. | |
| No, personally, first of all, I wouldn't have a child if I'm not able to get a child. | |
| You didn't get a choice in the matter. | |
| You got pregnant due to assault. | |
| I think that's a good question. | |
| I mean, she spoke about certain people. | |
| How many kids have you adopted? | |
| I would be down to adopt. | |
| Actually, I really do want to adopt it. | |
| It's actually really hard to adopt. | |
| There are a lot of kids in foster homes who just never end up getting adopted because there's just so many of them. | |
| There are. | |
| But I think there's also a lot of programs that are working towards helping these children. | |
| But they're not quite there yet. | |
| So as of now. | |
| All I'm saying is I think people should not resort to abortion as a plan A. | |
| And there's just steps. | |
| I would agree. | |
| I guess that's what I'm saying. | |
| I understand what you're saying. | |
| Yeah, for sure. | |
| Okay, Kyria, right? | |
| How do you say your name? | |
| Kyria. | |
| Kyria. | |
| You're Christian. | |
| Yes. | |
| Do you have thoughts on this? | |
| Yeah, so I have two points. | |
| On the first point, the statistics of women who get abortions after a sexual assault are super low. | |
| And honestly, personally, if I wasn't financially stable myself, I wouldn't be having sex. | |
| And I personally would never let a man who isn't financially stable fuck me. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I didn't know. | |
| You know, I wouldn't do that. | |
| So there are ways to prevent it, is what I'm saying. | |
| Like, if you know that you're not supposed to have, you're not in a place where you can have a child and bring a child into a stable environment, then there are ways to avoid that. | |
| There are so many ways to avoid that. | |
| Like, the pill itself is revolutionary. | |
| I don't take it, but I'm pretty sure it is. | |
| Can I ask you a question? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What about married couples who are not financially stable? | |
| Should they just stop having sex? | |
| You can use a condom. | |
| Condoms are not 100%. | |
| Condoms break. | |
| Condoms break. | |
| Yeah, but there's both. | |
| You can also traffic cycle. | |
| There's only one weak method that's going to hold. | |
| That's 100%. | |
| There's not a single method of birth control that's 100%. | |
| You can try them all. | |
| If you really, really honestly don't want to have a kid, you could try them all. | |
| You can try them all, but things happen. | |
| I just think once you're actually engaging in that activity with someone, you're automatically knowing what could happen. | |
| So you should be prepared for that. | |
| It's like you're doing something and I don't think sex with a spouse should come with the punishment of a child that you can't take care of. | |
| Okay, but why do you think a child is a punishment? | |
| Children are if you're not ready for a kid, it can be seen as a punishment to a lot of people who just they're not financially able, emotionally able, or they just don't want to put their body into that. | |
| Yeah, but as an as an adult or as a married couple, you're engaging in a certain activity to instantly gratify you and just being completely ignorant of the consequences. | |
| And there are ways to go about it. | |
| There are many different ways to not get pregnant. | |
| And not all of them are 100%, though, is what I'm saying. | |
| So you wouldn't have sex with that. | |
| So we're just adding sexuality. | |
| I'm not having sex is for sure. | |
| 100%. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So, you know, I wouldn't have sex. | |
| Even if I was in a marriage. | |
| In a marriage. | |
| If you were ready to have a kid, you would just put off having, you would just tell your husband, no, we can't have sex right now. | |
| Because we're not in a place. | |
| Like financially ready? | |
| If you were in a place where you and your husband, you know, somebody got laid off, somebody was sick, bills were coming in, you guys are both in debt. | |
| You obviously can't take care of a kid at that point. | |
| You don't want to put yourself through that. | |
| Would you just stop having sex with your spouse? | |
| Okay, so I'm 19, right? | |
| I want to get married. | |
| I want to get married early. | |
| I want to have kids early. | |
| But with that being said, because I want those things and because I have that teleology already in place in my mind, I don't have any debt. | |
| I'm paying school out of pocket right now. | |
| The person that I, my future husband, hopefully he won't have debt. | |
| If he does, I will help him. | |
| I personally have a good job right now, and hopefully he does too. | |
| So there's certain steps that I would never make myself get into a position that bad and marry into that position or bring a child into that position. | |
| There's certain steps that you could take now. | |
| I'm always planning for the future. | |
| Well, that's good for you, but there are married couples. | |
| I know, but you asked me personally. | |
| Like, what if somebody gets cancer? | |
| What if somebody's sick? | |
| What if somebody like at the pandemic you can't carry a baby? | |
| Okay, well, what if somebody's sick? | |
| Like, what if you're not a person? | |
| Which isn't catering to her, which was your original question. | |
| Do you come from a place of personally view of privilege? | |
| Because you said when it talks about financial stability, because you said you have set yourself up in a specific manner and are able to follow it thoroughly and wouldn't deviate from that. | |
| There's people that don't have that same, if it is financial or you have a security belt, that don't have that. | |
| I don't have a, I don't, I mean, I do, I, you know, I have an emergency fund and all of that, but are you asking about parents and things that you a fallback plan? | |
| Because there's some individuals that end up pregnant that don't have that same. | |
| Yeah, no, I've been living alone since I was 17. | |
| I don't have a fallback plan. | |
| Thank you. | |
| And no, I didn't grow up in privilege either. | |
| It's just, you know, I'm friends with a lot of older people and I like to learn from their mistakes. | |
| Totally. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So whatever they say don't do, I don't do. | |
| So everything is set up because I really want a husband and I really want a family. | |
| So I'll make sure that it gets there. | |
| But that's me personally. | |
| And I know not a lot of women want children. | |
| And I'm not saying you have to have children. | |
| But there are ways to not have children. | |
| So that's good for you that you're stable, but do you think your beliefs should affect whether or not another woman has the right to choose? | |
| That's why we're just saying it's our belief. | |
| Yeah, if it is our belief. | |
| A lot of people who believe that will lobby for and support anti-abortion laws. | |
| So where would you stand there? | |
| I don't think. | |
| I still don't think that it's okay for you to decide to kill a life. | |
| Because have you seen a 15-week fetus? | |
| Have you seen a fetus? | |
| I don't care to, no. | |
| Well, exactly. | |
| So if you don't care to know, then that's what it is, but it's still a baby. | |
| And I'm not sure if you're not. | |
| I definitely have, but I'm saying it's to me it's not a baby, and that's just my belief. | |
| So it looks exactly like a baby. | |
| It looks like an actual baby you can carry, but you don't think it's a baby is what I'm hearing. | |
| I don't. | |
| It definitely can't. | |
| Can't survive out of the womb. | |
| Okay, it can't survive out of the womb. | |
| Yeah, but it's still your child. | |
| So you would, you would have to be aware of that. | |
| With your other woman having the right to choose because of your personal beliefs and your situation. | |
| But she chose to have sex. | |
| But she did not choose to get pregnant. | |
| And yes, it's always a risk, but I'm saying what if somebody's taking all the precautions, taking all the birth control they possibly can. | |
| It's like a 99.9%. | |
| And then we can have this discussion, I think. | |
| Yeah, but do you personally? | |
| If they're taking birth control and that happens, that's not a lot of people. | |
| But if there's a law in place to stop them from doing so, why should we wait until it comes to that? | |
| Okay, but on, if we're, you're talking about, you know, the 0.001% chance that it happens if you take all the precautions, right? | |
| Like, that's what you're asking. | |
| Do you honestly, do you honestly, really think, I'm not shitting on women right now. | |
| I'm not. | |
| But do you honestly, really think that all these women are taking every single one of those precautions or are responsible enough? | |
| No, I don't think they're all taking precautions. | |
| Exactly. | |
| I don't think it matters because it's her right to choose. | |
| At the end of the day, it's her body. | |
| If she doesn't want to gestate a baby and damage her entire pelvic floor delivering said baby, she shouldn't have to. | |
| Then why did she choose to have sex knowing that? | |
| Because humans were built to piss and shit and have sex. | |
| They were made to procreate, actually. | |
| They were made to procreate. | |
| Not all to have. | |
| Humans and dolphins are the only two mammals who have sex for recreation. | |
| Dolphins. | |
| Dolphins, yes. | |
| Dolphins. | |
| Dolphins have sex for recreation. | |
| You know what we should talk about? | |
| We should talk about dolphin mating. | |
| Let's talk about it. | |
| Welcome to the whatever podcast where we discuss the mating rituals of aquatic animals. | |
| I also enjoy killing our animals for fun. | |
| Let's move it on from this. | |
| Let's keep talking. | |
| I'm going to bring it back to the 50-50 feminist. | |
| I'm sure. | |
| So I wanted a bit of more clarity on that. | |
| So you're against 50-50 relationships, but consider yourself to be a feminist. | |
| Yes. | |
| I'm a radical feminist, meaning that I think men should do everything for me in life, and I shouldn't have to lift a finger. | |
| I'm totally messing with you. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| I bet all your viewers are going to believe that. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| No. | |
| There's some truth there, right? | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| No, I definitely, I can tell you this. | |
| Listen, I've gotten got by a man before. | |
| You got? | |
| Yeah, I paid this guy's rent for a long time, right? | |
| What a legend. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And then after that, you're like, yeah, I'm never doing that again. | |
| So if any man wants access to me, like, I'm not going to pay his rent. | |
| I'm not going to do that shit. | |
| I would never ask someone to pay my rent. | |
| But initially, I think if I recall what you said, you said something along the lines of, well, I'm doing all these sexual things for the guy. | |
| Yes. | |
| Ergo. | |
| No, he should pay everything. | |
| I understand. | |
| I think I meant that more in like a joking way. | |
| Like, BJ, they don't call out a job for nothing, right? | |
| Sure. | |
| But, yes, but I do know that, you know, a lot of women during sexual intercourse don't actually come, right? | |
| So already here, we're not having as much fun. | |
| You're definitely a government employee. | |
| So knowledgeable, useless ignorance about you. | |
| They should transfer you to the USPS. | |
| You're a bucket of bad ideas. | |
| God luck with your future. | |
| Daddy government, cat shelters, and Pfizer are cheering you on. | |
| Your response to Markavius. | |
| Hi, Markuvius. | |
| I love you. | |
| No, I'm not a Fed. | |
| I am a government employee. | |
| Yeah, you try doing the work that I do, and then we can talk about it. | |
| Love you. | |
| Okay, so you were saying. | |
| Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| I keep coming back. | |
| I don't even know what I'm talking about. | |
| Yeah, the 50-50. | |
| Yeah, no, okay. | |
| So I should, I'm going to base this off of my own familial interactions. | |
| Okay, so growing up, my mom not only had a full-time job, but she also raised my brother and I. | |
| I have an older brother and did everything in between. | |
| My father went to work and worked on his cars, you know. | |
| And if it was like, oh, you know, can you help with the kids here? | |
| No. | |
| In fact, my dad went to pick me up in kindergarten. | |
| They wouldn't let him take us home because they didn't believe he was our father because he had never, they like never saw him so much, right? | |
| So that's what his complexion was a bit different, all right? | |
| Well, he kind of does look Middle Eastern, I won't lie. | |
| Okay. | |
| But yeah, it was different. | |
| He even had to like show his ID and everything. | |
| It was really funny. | |
| But see, that's more where I'm coming from. | |
| Whereas, you know, I felt like my mom did absolutely everything growing up. | |
| And my father was just kind of there to be like, yeah, cool. | |
| I'm down with that. | |
| Was your mother the breadwinner? | |
| Technically, my father made more, but probably only like 50K difference. | |
| 50K difference? | |
| Yeah. | |
| A year? | |
| A year, correct? | |
| That's a pretty substantial difference. | |
| How much? | |
| Okay, so how much was he making? | |
| How much was she making? | |
| I would say he was probably making $250,000 and my mom was probably making two. | |
| $250, $200. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I mean, that's pretty high income for both of us. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Once you get up there. | |
| Was he working more than she was? | |
| Well, he technically had longer hours, but again, I think that was to avoid the kids because he would wake up and leave the house at seven and couldn't home, wouldn't come home until like seven or eight. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, but anonymous donated $100. | |
| She was just a diversity hire. | |
| We're not getting paid to be here. | |
| We're not. | |
| This is for you. | |
| No, I think he's talking about your job. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| So, but your dad was working more than your mother, correct? | |
| More hours. | |
| More. | |
| I mean, I don't know. | |
| This was like 90s fun. | |
| They were at the golf course, you know. | |
| My mom was like in biotech and my dad was in sales. | |
| So it was very different. | |
| But you said he would leave home at 7 a.m. | |
| Right. | |
| But I mean, in between, he'd go to the gym in the morning, then he'd go to work, then he'd go to lunch. | |
| Then after, he'd go to golf, you know? | |
| I mean, it wasn't like he was working 24-7. | |
| Did he work more than your mom? | |
| I would say no. | |
| You okay? | |
| I'm getting a little conflicting information. | |
| My mom worked eight hours a day. | |
| My dad worked eight hours a day. | |
| But my mom came home and took care of us, which she is not compensated for. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Well, you had a dual-income household, but I would say, I mean, he was out earning your mom. | |
| So, I mean, there is an argument there for. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Martin donated $100. | |
| Thank you, Markuvian. | |
| I'm a multi-millionaire with businesses across the southeast. | |
| Hundreds of employees, post-lady. | |
| What do you do that I couldn't do drunk as hell-blindfolded? | |
| What? | |
| Make a woman come? | |
| Watch child pornography for eight hours a day? | |
| Yeah, that's what I have to do, honey. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Can you avoid using like that? | |
| It's just like, oh, geez. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| So it would seem to me that the field mailman donated $100. | |
| What a sad time we live in. | |
| People are literally fighting for the right to kill their babies just so they can run the streets and take raw meat with zero consequences. | |
| Also, they don't want 50-50. | |
| Feminism isn't about equality. | |
| It's about superiority. | |
| Cry. | |
| I would like to be superior. | |
| Thank you. | |
| No, I'm just kidding. | |
| It's so funny listening to them cry. | |
| And a lot of these laws that are in place were put in place by men. | |
| So. | |
| What? | |
| I mean, there's actually more women who are, if you're talking about the pro-life stuff, there's more women who are pro-life than of course. | |
| No, I agree with that. | |
| So it's not like a man thing. | |
| Right, but I mean, not a lot of women have been making laws for too long, right? | |
| We didn't have the right to do that like the past like 50 plus years. | |
| The past 50 plus years? | |
| Probably, yeah. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| When did we have like the first congresswoman? | |
| Yeah, that's a good question. | |
| Or the first, we haven't had a female president yet. | |
| We have a vice president, which is nice. | |
| But we just, we haven't whole, we haven't held those seats, right? | |
| Hold on, hide that. | |
| Poker Smith donated $100. | |
| She likes her job. | |
| Disgusting. | |
| Actually, they tend to hire women more than men. | |
| So less liability. | |
| Okay, so can you please clarify? | |
| You've said you don't believe in 50-50, yet you're feminist. | |
| Yes. | |
| Because of how I was raised again, just I saw my daughter. | |
| But that didn't, I mean, according to you, so your assessment of it, it wasn't a 50-50. | |
| Correct. | |
| And that's what I, okay. | |
| Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| I apologize. | |
| I should speak better. | |
| Speak more better. | |
| I saw that it wasn't 50-50. | |
| In my household, yes, I would want 50-50. | |
| When I'm dating you, I would want you to, you know, provide. | |
| I want to see if you're a good provider. | |
| Why? | |
| Because isn't that, I mean, what men want to be? | |
| I mean, most, like, look at Andrew Tate. | |
| Isn't this guy, like, you know? | |
| Where are we? | |
| I know. | |
| Wait, you just went back on that now and saying that if you are in a relationship, you do want 50-50? | |
| So you said, like, when you're in a relationship, get married, you want it to be 50-50. | |
| Yes. | |
| However, during the initial courtship process, you want the guy to pay for everything. | |
| Not necessarily pay for everything, but potentially do a little bit more. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How so? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, okay, so the last guy I dated, it was a little like contentious because I only took him on a couple dates, and we had probably been dating for six months. | |
| And out of those six months, I think I took him out maybe two or three times. | |
| He was very upset by that. | |
| He thought that like as many times as he took me out, I should take him out. | |
| I guess I'm just old school. | |
| I don't believe that. | |
| I think a man should be taking the woman out more. | |
| So you want equality only when it benefits you? | |
| Yes. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| But it's like, how do you reconcile believing in feminism, believing in gender equality, but saying that you want the guy to take care of it, you want the guy to adhere to his traditional gender roles during the initial courtship. | |
| That doesn't make sense to me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I think that's what I believe. | |
| I think gender norms in the beginning make sense. | |
| But yeah, as you get to know each other, they go away, right? | |
| Okay, so traditional gender roles when it benefits you, and then those disperse when they don't benefit you. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let me be a little more careful with how I'm saying things. | |
| So in the beginning, I think it's up to a man to woo a woman, right? | |
| He should be the one that takes her out. | |
| He should be the one that wants to do all these things for her, right? | |
| That's not very feminist of you, but okay. | |
| Yeah, and I respect that, right? | |
| But again, feminism is a spectrum, right? | |
| And we're all in certain places in the spectrum. | |
| I disagree. | |
| I think equality is black and white. | |
| I personally don't think feminism is an equality movement. | |
| But that's the more generate, like that's how some people will describe feminism is it's about equality. | |
| But through the movement, we have gotten equality. | |
| We have the right to vote now, which we didn't get until like, what, 1915, 16, something like that. | |
| We couldn't, you know, buy our own house or excuse me, take out our own credit cards without a man's signature until like the 1970s. | |
| I would have to fact-check that out. | |
| Yeah, and you can. | |
| You absolutely can. | |
| What's that? | |
| Would you reiterate your view on feminism and how your generous view you give it? | |
| Sure. | |
| So feminism, the most generous definition I would give it is it's a woman's advocacy movement. | |
| That's the most generous definition I would give it. | |
| However, my view of it, what it actually is, is it is a women's advocacy movement. | |
| However, the rhetoric and the ideology is steeped in man-hating. | |
| and conspiracy, hold on. | |
| Typical government stuff. | |
| Everything they say never makes sense. | |
| Yeah, so that's my view of feminism. | |
| Sure. | |
| Should women not advocate for themselves? | |
| I didn't say that. | |
| There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy. | |
| However, but to portray feminism as an equality movement, hold on. | |
| To portray feminism or to suggest that feminism is a movement about equality is on its fit. | |
| It's just wrong. | |
| There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy, women's rights, that's great. | |
| However, feminism has gone way beyond that and throughout its entire history has, quite frankly, been a man-hating ideology. | |
| So you're saying we can support one side without bringing down the other? | |
| Well, that's called egalitarianism, and I consider myself an egalitarian. | |
| I can agree that it's derailed. | |
| I don't think that its original root was to hate on men directly. | |
| Well, I mean, its original root was also deeply racist. | |
| I would agree with you there. | |
| I would agree with you there. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| So was Leonardo. | |
| But it's always been a man-hating ideology. | |
| Well, here's why. | |
| I think that's changed recently. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You think that's recent? | |
| Yeah, I think it is more recent. | |
| Well, the core tenant of feminism is this conspiracy theory called the patriarchy theory, which posits, I mean, she's laughing. | |
| It's not a conspiracy. | |
| It is a conspiracy theory. | |
| You're saying that men as a class throughout all history oppressed women as a class. | |
| Yes. | |
| Throughout all history. | |
| That's not the same thing. | |
| Quite literally. | |
| We were erased from history. | |
| We weren't allowed to do jobs that men were doing. | |
| We weren't allowed to become doctors until like the late 1800s. | |
| I don't see that's not really related to patriarchy theory, but also not entirely. | |
| I don't think women were completely erased from history. | |
| I think when it valued the education system for women to be put in a place of a submissive nature, then it was taught and it was educated. | |
| Women got us to the moon. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You're talking about that lady who did like that whole stack of coaches. | |
| That was Jack Black's mom. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Isn't that interesting? | |
| I mean, I just reject outright that women were oppressed and men were the oppressor. | |
| I reject it. | |
| I believe. | |
| There's historical evidence that that's happened due to religion being one of the predominant factors of how we viewed society. | |
| Men have a divine right over women. | |
| I've never seen that. | |
| That happened in like medieval times, but yes. | |
| You've never seen it. | |
| Have you not heard of King Henry VIII? | |
| And he's a good idea. | |
| I've seen the Tudors. | |
| I've seen the Tudors. | |
| I have no idea. | |
| And he went to the Catholic Church and said, I'm more divine than God. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The Tudors is a great show, but I have no idea how that's related. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| So you're asking me to continue? | |
| Yeah, you were asking me something. | |
| Well, just if you date back far enough that you see that women were put in a place to be very submissive. | |
| So their role was to be mothers and caretakers. | |
| They were not given the opportunity or even considered intelligent enough or able enough to do chores outside of that. | |
| Well, I reject that, but I mean, couldn't, you know, first off, there's a few considerations biologically that you have to think of. | |
| First off, there's certain sanitary realities, and then there's also birth control. | |
| So, and, you know, we have such conveniences that have come about in the past hundred years. | |
| Life was incredibly difficult hundreds, two hundreds of years ago. | |
| So, I mean, there is a certain component of, you know, and obviously the risk of death during pregnancy. | |
| If there was an expectation to continue the human race and women were the ones that gave birth, and if there was a high probability that you could die during childbirth, wouldn't it almost make sense to invest, for example, educational opportunities in men who don't have that additional risk of death during childbirth? | |
| And a lot of women my age, like in their 30s, actually sometimes don't get hired because we're technically in an age where we will have kids and they don't want to have to pay for us to go and have kids, right? | |
| Because usually if you're now, I acknowledge that maybe some women don't want to have kids. | |
| However, historically, there were certain gender expectations and things were very different. | |
| Women were biological. | |
| Yeah, it's biological. | |
| But when we say, okay, we want a man to provide, which is what they have been doing for thousands of years, all of a sudden, like, that's not okay, right? | |
| But if you're expecting that from a man, shouldn't he expect you to act as the traditional formal? | |
| Totally. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, okay. | |
| So you're traditional in your behavior? | |
| I have traditional behaviors. | |
| Yes. | |
| I would say so. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You can talk to any of my exes if you want. | |
| What are your traditional behaviors? | |
| I like to cook. | |
| Cooking. | |
| Woohoo! | |
| Feminism. | |
| No, I'm just kidding. | |
| Yeah, I like to cook. | |
| I actually have to get going. | |
| So sorry, this isn't going to be as much fun anymore. | |
| Everyone's loving me. | |
| Yeah, they love me. | |
| Okay. | |
| I have to get going. | |
| But yeah, this was actually really fun. | |
| I think we should sit down and have more conversations about feminism. | |
| But I think that might be the only, I might be the only one who wants that. | |
| It's a bit early, you sure? | |
| Yeah, I do have to go. | |
| I have a job tomorrow doing stuff for the government. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so before you leave, I guess, and I will touch back because you were asking me a question, so I'll touch back on that. | |
| I just, again, you've said that you believe in 50-50, yet, or sorry, excuse me, you don't believe in 50-50, yet you describe yourself as a feminist. | |
| No, I do believe in 50-50, but not in the beginning. | |
| Right, that's what I mean. | |
| Okay. | |
| So would you take an issue with a guy wanting to split the bill on a first date? | |
| I would, yes. | |
| I wouldn't. | |
| Yeah, I would not. | |
| Guess what? | |
| We're all different, see? | |
| But I just, I have difficulty reconciling your. | |
| I assume you believe in gender equality, right? | |
| Yeah, of course. | |
| And feminism, that's the supposed common sense. | |
| Get paid more. | |
| It's also just romantic for a guy to have a lot of people. | |
| So we want to be wooed. | |
| I will say, there's often men that complain about women being in their highly masculine energy, right? | |
| Sure. | |
| And they want them to be more feminine. | |
| So if you do take up those traditional roles, you may allow that partner you're trying to pursue to lean into that feminine energy a bit more. | |
| Where if you don't, she may feel the need to continue to present more masculine. | |
| And that's okay if she wants to present in that masculine nature. | |
| But if you are looking for a feminine woman, you should take up those roles and give her that space of safety. | |
| Exactly. | |
| See, she explained that far better than I ever could have. | |
| That's why I tried to get on the point. | |
| Not saying that you didn't, but that's one of the reasons I wanted to go on the point. | |
| Okay, so I have a question for you. | |
| So you mentioned, I think we had spoke before the show. | |
| You said you're harsh on men. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| I think, again, just my background. | |
| You know, I think when you're just watching men do really bad things to children all day, it tends to, yeah. | |
| Okay, if you want to come and do a day at my job, you absolutely can. | |
| I'm good. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| That's what I thought. | |
| Okay, ladies, you guys are beautiful and wonderful, and I love you all. | |
| I sure will. | |
| Okay, bye-bye. | |
| She's so annoying. | |
| I de-delieved myself if I was married to her. | |
| All right, that's Frank Castle. | |
| All right. | |
| What's the number on that microphone? | |
| It's a number seven. | |
| Does that mean we're going out on a date? | |
| Uh-oh. | |
| You and I? | |
| You're gonna. | |
| You're gonna have to pay for the date, and it's gonna have to be a lot of fun. | |
| We're all looking for a feminine one. | |
| I'll pay for this date. | |
| I just won't be feminine. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Lovely. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Lovely. | |
| All right. | |
| It's a date. | |
| It's a plan. | |
| Okay, bye. | |
| Bye. | |
| Thank you for coming. | |
| Can I have you put the microphone on the ground, please? | |
| All right. | |
| Bye, guys. | |
| Have a wonderful night. | |
| Bye. | |
| Nice meeting you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Did you enjoy your roller coaster? | |
| Yeah, that was a heated. | |
| Okay. | |
| So. | |
| Where do we go from there? | |
| What's it? | |
| Can you wait for that? | |
| Oh, red. | |
| Martin donated $100. | |
| Let's hear more scholarly ideologies from Bella Thorne's special needs Hispanic second cousin, the one with bad hair and worse ideas. | |
| Tell us more, eyelashes. | |
| You're coated heavily in the devil's war paint. | |
| I bet you're even more stunning underneath. | |
| That's not very nice. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's all you got from Arquavius? | |
| No, that's not very nice. | |
| You should be nice. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| I lost some of the recent events. | |
| Oh, well. | |
| Okay, so I'll do a couple. | |
| We'll hold off on the super chats. | |
| Oh, fuck. | |
| Bro, she's, oh, I got to leave at 9:30. | |
| Okay, whatever. | |
| Consensus on her? | |
| I play the fifth. | |
| Come on. | |
| Yeah, me too. | |
| Yep. | |
| Not touching that with the temple pole. | |
| She's fun. | |
| Avery. | |
| I think it made the stream a little more interesting. | |
| For sure. | |
| She's a fireball. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| She's a. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Is that not fun? | |
| What's the, I don't think it's fireball. | |
| What's the word? | |
| Fire. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Firecracker. | |
| Firecracker. | |
| She's exactly what you need on a podcast, though. | |
| Wishing to see. | |
| Somebody to challenge you. | |
| She should have stayed longer. | |
| I agree. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| I'm going to take it off. | |
| I'm going to take it off members only for a little bit here, guys. | |
| Okay, so it got very heated almost immediately. | |
| Eric, can we? | |
| I'm going to ask the girls a question. | |
| So try to bring a little levity back to the show. | |
| Would you date the following man? | |
| Eric, can you pull up the Instagram? | |
| Oh, before you pull it up, scroll down so you don't see the bio on the guy's Instagram. | |
| Did I? | |
| Did I pull it up? | |
| I think I did. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Scroll down so you don't see the bio. | |
| Okay, so would you date this guy? | |
| Scroll down, Eric. | |
| No. | |
| I've already dated somebody who looks just like that, actually. | |
| He looks familiar. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Keep scrolling. | |
| Keep going down. | |
| Keep going down. | |
| Oh, this isn't getting the same. | |
| Oh, wait, I like the ears. | |
| Yeah, the ears is cute. | |
| All right. | |
| Keep going. | |
| And he's a gamer, bonus points. | |
| I kind of like the silly faces. | |
| He doesn't take himself too seriously. | |
| So his name's Zach. | |
| Okay. | |
| He's like, he's like Chad, World of Warcraft gamer. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Would you guys date him? | |
| I actually would. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I like nerdy guys. | |
| He's in Texas. | |
| I can get you guys linked up if you're down. | |
| I'm actually down. | |
| I'm not kidding. | |
| Let's go. | |
| I need to try something new. | |
| Eric, can you lower it a little bit while I play this? | |
| So, okay, Avery. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| You would date Zach. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What about you? | |
| Would you date Zach? | |
| No, thank you. | |
| No-go? | |
| No, thank you. | |
| Sure. | |
| I mean, I think it's unfair to do that based on his appearance only. | |
| But yeah, like I said, I've literally dated somebody who looked exactly like him already. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| What about you? | |
| No. | |
| Not your type? | |
| No. | |
| He looks like a sweet guy, but not my type. | |
| Yeah, not based on the looks, but I'm not a big fan of gamers, so that's like a no-go for me. | |
| Sure. | |
| No. | |
| That would probably say no. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| So, Eric, can you just scroll up a little bit so we see who it is? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| This is Zach. | |
| His name's Asman Gold. | |
| Very popular Twitch streamer, probably one of the top Twitch streamers, owner of OTK. | |
| He's probably making like millions of dollars a year. | |
| Does that change anything for any of you? | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| Makes me less likely to want to date him, actually. | |
| Why is that? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I like somebody with humble beginnings. | |
| You want someone? | |
| Well, no, not broke. | |
| Not broke, but maybe not a millionaire. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't think I could see myself with a millionaire. | |
| Would you take care of your partner? | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| I currently do. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Well, I like that. | |
| I've been financially abused before, so I like the situation I'm in where I pay the rent and I pay for everything. | |
| And he's offered to help, and I told him no because I like that I have some control for once in my life. | |
| You like to pay for the rent? | |
| I do. | |
| Okay. | |
| Would you say you're more masculine? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm still kind of overwhelmed by the girl over there. | |
| Okay, Jesus Christ. | |
| All right. | |
| Here, let's do this. | |
| By the way, guys, just to run. | |
| Oh, Eric, can you pull up the Twitch? | |
| I need to shout out the Twitch homies. | |
| All right. | |
| Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever. | |
| Open up another tab. | |
| Go give us a follow. | |
| If you have a Prime sub, drop us a Prime sub, twitch.tv/slash whatever. | |
| If you have Amazon Prime, you link it to your Twitch. | |
| It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| You guys are on fire. | |
| Look at all these people following. | |
| Thank you, guys. | |
| Yeah, you link it to your. | |
| Yo, Bert, thank you for the gifted. | |
| Yeah, you basically. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Sorry, getting tongue-tied. | |
| The link is in the description. | |
| Otherwise, twitch.tv slash whatever. | |
| You link your Prime, Amazon Prime, to your Twitch. | |
| It's free. | |
| Yo, LostPod, thank you for the Prime Man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Thank you guys so much, man. | |
| Nebulas, thank you for the Prime. | |
| The Prime. | |
| Okay, so by the way, I think there are how many people are watching? | |
| Oh my God, there are 6,000 of you. | |
| The chat is on fire. | |
| Thank you guys so much. | |
| Really appreciate it. | |
| And yeah, just a reminder again: TTS is Stream Labs only. | |
| Sweet. | |
| let me get a couple of the super chats here guys okay we have this one came through Mr. Cappadocia, hey, thank you for the 50. | |
| She knows women are significantly less likely to be prosecuted for it. | |
| However, she brought up Eric, can you hide the Twitch overlay really quick? | |
| It's the Twitch alerts. | |
| Yeah, just hide that momentarily. | |
| However, she brought up the discussion to shame him into submission. | |
| Boys as young as 13 have had to pay women child support. | |
| Yep, that's definitely true. | |
| Sorry, I didn't read these while she was still here. | |
| She said she could stay until like 9:30, but then she dipped an hour earlier. | |
| So, speedy the unsilent. | |
| Thank you for the 50 man saying it's not a life is a lie. | |
| It's a coping mechanism to justify your actions. | |
| When you hook up, you are taking responsibility for what happens after lack of accountability. | |
| Word? | |
| Word? | |
| Okay, thank you, man. | |
| Richard Continey Jr. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Not only is the Fed a liar, but she has daddy issues too. | |
| She's definitely not worth having on a second time. | |
| Can't stand a liar. | |
| Okay. | |
| No boom naga. | |
| Thank you for the 100 man. | |
| Red-haired girl should understand when she says the child can't. | |
| Actually, you know what? | |
| You read this. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I'll have my glasses on. | |
| God bless. | |
| Red-haired girl should understand when she's doing. | |
| Red-haired girl should understand when she says the child can't live on their own inside the womb. | |
| Would it be okay to do to to-do post-abortions on adolescent children then? | |
| Also, people have been raising kids since the Stone Ages, so the money issue is null and void. | |
| Well, it's not really the Stone Ages anymore now, is it? | |
| Oh, fire. | |
| Okay. | |
| Eric, can you show the Twitch overlay again here? | |
| Thank you guys so much for the super chats, guys. | |
| If you want, get your super chats in $50 and up. | |
| And then Instant TTS, 100 and up. | |
| Everything else, it's Stream Labs only, though, for the TTS. | |
| Thank you guys. | |
| All right, we have, yo, we got to swap this chair. | |
| Can you take her chair? | |
| Yeah, it's squeaking. | |
| So get rid of that chair. | |
| All right. | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| We're doing a little musical chairs here. | |
| All right. | |
| So, Stiffler, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten. | |
| Okay, we're going to start over here. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| It's every podcast. | |
| This is the worst. | |
| Go for it, Avery. | |
| I believe in you. | |
| Okay, I'm going to like, like, so a 10 to me is like a Victoria Seeker model, so that's why I'm comparing myself. | |
| I would say a six. | |
| Okay. | |
| Seven. | |
| Like, appearance-wise, or everything? | |
| Looks. | |
| Just looks. | |
| Looks seven. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Anonymous donated $100. | |
| Oh, who's the audio? | |
| Before feminists from all races or religion would be so embarrassed. | |
| I'm 25, and some of you woman are old on this panel, and you're all embarrassing. | |
| I tell myself one day I'm going to be on the panel. | |
| Stupid woman equals broken society. | |
| I'm woman BTW. | |
| She's a woman, BTW. | |
| Shout out to that. | |
| Your grammar sucks, so I think you might be one of those stupid women. | |
| Yeah, I'm intelligent. | |
| I don't know what you're talking about. | |
| Fired. | |
| Okay. | |
| Pretty smart. | |
| What do you rate yourself on the scale of one to ten? | |
| Seven. | |
| I want to say like eight or nine. | |
| I want to say ten, but I'll say eight or nine. | |
| Okay. | |
| I hate this question. | |
| I guess a seven. | |
| I would say six. | |
| I would say seven. | |
| Save seven. | |
| All right. | |
| A lot of angel numbers here. | |
| There you have it. | |
| Stiffler. | |
| Okay. | |
| So let's see here. | |
| We had one other thing to react to. | |
| Let me see if I have it. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think we were going around the table on something. | |
| It was the 50-50 thing, but we can move on from that. | |
| Does anybody have anything dating related they want to get off your chat their chest? | |
| Maybe there's a frustration that you experience when it comes to dating. | |
| Men are pissing you off in some way. | |
| Just anything you wanted to get off your chest. | |
| And Avery, I want to prompt you really quick. | |
| I saw on your Instagram that you were thoroughly traumatized by one of your previous partners. | |
| It was in one of your clips or whatever on Instagram. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Wait, which one? | |
| Oh, it's been a lot of time. | |
| It's a lot of trauma. | |
| Like, just like, fuck boys, what are we talking here? | |
| Yeah, man. | |
| I just want love. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| I don't know if it's Los Angeles. | |
| Probably Los Angeles. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Probably Los Angeles. | |
| It's just, yeah, men haven't been, haven't been great to me. | |
| So, and to be fair, I've accepted that. | |
| Like, I accepted not being treated great. | |
| So I know a lot of it is my fault, but I don't know. | |
| Has there been a pattern of men not treating you well? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do you think part of that is because of the men that you find yourself attracted to? | |
| I do think, yes, which is why I'm trying to be attracted to something different. | |
| But I think, especially with dating apps, you're getting like the hottest matches ever, and that just doesn't ever go well. | |
| Because that's profound, yeah. | |
| So I'm thinking dating apps aren't just not going to work because you can't help but swipe on the hottest people, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| But then they're douchebags. | |
| So what are we supposed to? | |
| I think I'm just going to delete them. | |
| Do most of the guys you meet, are they from dating apps? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because I don't know how else to meet people. | |
| I work from home. | |
| What are we supposed to do? | |
| Can I find a husband through this podcast? | |
| Oh, I don't do church. | |
| The grocery store. | |
| Where? | |
| The grocery store. | |
| Avery. | |
| Will you marry me? | |
| Oh, my God, really? | |
| I'm so sweet. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Fuck, I didn't. | |
| There we go. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I'm going to cry. | |
| It's the sweetest moment I've ever experienced. | |
| You're going to leave me hanging here? | |
| What's up? | |
| I accept. | |
| I accept. | |
| Can I just throw it at you? | |
| Catch it on your finger. | |
| Okay. | |
| Eric gets under the bed. | |
| That's a terrible throw. | |
| I broke my face. | |
| That was a great throw. | |
| That was a great throw. | |
| Did I break it? | |
| No, that's good. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't think it's. | |
| You just made my whole life. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Eric, can you just hand it to her off? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Or Avery, maybe you can do a little reach for it. | |
| Did you wear it? | |
| Yeah, put it on. | |
| Bro, you put that on your right hand. | |
| What are you doing, Dork? | |
| Get it together, Avery. | |
| Oh, I look so cute. | |
| I'm so happy. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're dead. | |
| All right. | |
| But I mean, so you said you're looking for other dudes. | |
| So maybe Zach, the Asmongold, he's an option, you know? | |
| Yeah, I mean, look, whoever thinks, I just want to be with someone that thinks I'm special. | |
| So whoever is going to. | |
| That thinks you're special. | |
| I think you're special. | |
| So if you think I'm special, the short business devoted $100 of this is a lot of fun. | |
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Thank God, Margo. | |
| Robbie from Wish Self-Deported. | |
| Disrespecting the rules of your house and boogouting the convo with those san paku eyes. | |
| Facts. | |
| Let's hear more from Harley Quinn and the girls in the back corner. | |
| FJB Trump 2024. | |
| Jesus is king. | |
| Okay, Persian. | |
| Hey, thank you for the $100 donation. | |
| And thank you especially for the 69 cents on top of it. | |
| Much appreciated. | |
| Yeah, I mean, I do feel bad. | |
| Like, I feel like she did kind of dominate the conversation. | |
| Maybe I should have been like, okay. | |
| I think you were giving me daggers for a little bit during that. | |
| Oh, I was just. | |
| I don't know if you were just kind of like, what the fuck is going on or. | |
| God. | |
| Kind of. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Brian, may I ask you a question? | |
| What's up? | |
| Do you agree with the majority of your viewers and the perspectives they share? | |
| Do you, do you, you guys, you got beef? | |
| What do you want? | |
| Tell me how you really feel. | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| Tell me how you really feel about my viewers. | |
| I'm just genuinely curious. | |
| Well, I mean, I would say this. | |
| Majority-wise. | |
| Well, I would say this. | |
| And I give credit to Tupac who said this in the 90s. | |
| He said something along the lines of, I am only responsible for the words that come out of my mouth. | |
| I can't, I do not take ownership of what other people say. | |
| I don't claim to know the position on various political issues and social issues that all my viewers hold. | |
| I'm sure I have a diversity of thought when it comes to my viewership, so it's hard to say. | |
| I haven't taken a poll on what specifically my viewers think. | |
| You would have to ask me specifically what you think my viewers think, and I could confirm or deny whether I agree or disagree with them. | |
| I'm just curious if you've noticed that. | |
| Closer to the mic. | |
| I'm just curious because if you've noticed a string of either hate or disrespectful comments coming from your viewership, just genuine curiosity, and if you support that sort of behavior and demeanor. | |
| Well, I mean, you'd have to tell me which specific comment. | |
| We get something like over 10,000 chats a show. | |
| I don't read all the comments. | |
| I don't, actually, really, I just see the super chats and the TTS. | |
| I know you said not to read the chat, but every time I look over, I see somebody calling us sluds. | |
| 3F4s, is that what they're saying? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Which I'm sure stands for hoe. | |
| I mean, so as far as you'd have, again, you'd have to tell me a specific comment that someone makes. | |
| I'm not responsible for the words that somebody else says. | |
| I would say, though, sometimes, yeah, the super chats, they maybe can be insulting. | |
| I would agree with you there. | |
| Sometimes they're just playful roasting. | |
| I feel like they try to be witty and they try to be insulting, but it kind of flops. | |
| And I mean, I'd like to see somebody make me laugh with one of them. | |
| Like, banter should be encouraged in any setting like this, but I'm just curious. | |
| It was just genuine curiosity. | |
| Well, I mean, I would just, what I would say, what I told you before the show is that the internet, because of the anonymity, people are going to be like, say, fucked up shit. | |
| We have a couple moderators. | |
| We don't have a ton of moderators. | |
| We're pretty lax when it comes to the chat moderation. | |
| Unless there's something really egregious, we don't really, you know, like, you know, people are going to have their opinions and we just kind of free flow, you know? | |
| Yeah, they don't like us and there's nothing that we can say to make them like us because you have a pretty wide range of opinions and backgrounds sitting here at this table. | |
| But to your viewers, we're all hoes, and there's nothing we can say to change that. | |
| If we give an answer, they agree with we're lying. | |
| Chat, confirm or deny. | |
| Are they all hoes? | |
| I will say no. | |
| Confirm or deny. | |
| Are they all hoes? | |
| What does 304s mean? | |
| That means how can you get away from that? | |
| Oh, I keep seeing that. | |
| Well, I mean, we could, you know, assess the degree to which what makes a woman a hoe. | |
| Well, let's talk about body count. | |
| There's a double standard. | |
| What is that? | |
| What's considered justified body, or excuse me, justified double standard. | |
| Because emotional attachment and psychology would say otherwise. | |
| I have no idea what you mean, but we're going to get into that. | |
| So let's go around the table. | |
| First off. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Should body count matter? | |
| No. | |
| It should be a conversation of discussion between you and your partner. | |
| Okay, I'll go around the table. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| No. | |
| What? | |
| Say it again. | |
| I don't think the camera is on you. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Yes. | |
| I think yes, but I wouldn't want to know. | |
| You wouldn't want to know the guy's body count. | |
| Okay, let me just make the question a bit more precise. | |
| Do you have an issue with men who would you take quarrel with men having fuck, sorry, I'm thinking the best way to word this. | |
| Would you take quarrel with a man caring about your body count or a woman's body count? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Wait, do I have quarrel with someone else's body count? | |
| Would you take quarrel because I think men tend to care about this more than women do? | |
| There's certainly women that do care about their partner's body count. | |
| However, I think men have more, and there's reasons for this. | |
| Men care more about it than women do. | |
| So do you have an issue? | |
| For example, the previous question I asked is, should body count matter? | |
| And you could view that as, well, I don't care about body count. | |
| However, I guess the way I want to get to the bottom of this is, do you think, or do you have an issue with men caring about body count? | |
| Do you have an issue with that preference that men have? | |
| Oh, so if a man's going to be upset with me for my body count being too high, you're saying, would I be upset by that? | |
| Would you take issue with a man having a preference for a woman with a low body count? | |
| Do you think that's a wrong preference to have? | |
| It's not a wrong preference to have. | |
| I understand. | |
| It's just that I also don't like being judged because when I was more promiscuous, I was going through a really hard time and I was depressed. | |
| And that's how I dealt with it. | |
| It's a form of self-harm. | |
| I don't feel, yes, it is a form of self-harm. | |
| So that's why I just, I wouldn't want to be judged. | |
| But I understand if they would have a problem with it and then they're not the right guy for me if it's too high for them or whatever. | |
| But yeah. | |
| I wouldn't take issue with it. | |
| Like everybody has their boundaries and that's fine. | |
| Okay. | |
| But show of hands. | |
| Who says body count does matter? | |
| To a certain extent. | |
| Okay, you three. | |
| Okay. | |
| So for those of you who said, and perhaps the ones who also said it should matter can answer this. | |
| For those who said body count should not matter, does not matter, what's your body count? | |
| Okay, 45. | |
| 45? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm going to play the fifth on this one. | |
| Come on. | |
| Be a good sport. | |
| Be a good sport. | |
| She answered. | |
| Honestly, to tell you the truth, I don't really know, and I'll tell you why. | |
| There was a lot of years that I was using and drinking. | |
| I'm like two and a half years of sober sobriety. | |
| Okay, proud of you. | |
| Congratulations. | |
| Thanks, man. | |
| So there's a lot of situations where I don't remember. | |
| Sure. | |
| You know? | |
| Range. | |
| Do you want to give us a range? | |
| A guesstimate? | |
| I'd say it's like 60. | |
| 60? | |
| Okay. | |
| 60. | |
| What about you? | |
| What's yours? | |
| What's your body count? | |
| What's yours? | |
| I'm curious. | |
| Okay, there's a process to this podcast. | |
| It's my show. | |
| I'm asking you guys individually. | |
| You're not going to do a reverse UNO. | |
| What's your body count? | |
| Will you tell me afterwards? | |
| Because I'm curious. | |
| Answer the question. | |
| Okay, 14. | |
| Okay. | |
| Into the mic, please. | |
| And you need to scoot the mic that way, please. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm not stating. | |
| I thought body count shouldn't matter, though. | |
| That's not what I said. | |
| I said it's a discussion between the partners. | |
| That's fair. | |
| You're right. | |
| You're right. | |
| You did say that. | |
| Okay. | |
| So don't want to do you want to give us a range? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| I can give you the fact that I was in a seven-year relationship and I was engaged. | |
| And that was. | |
| Okay, so you had sex at least one time. | |
| Good to know. | |
| Okay, we call you. | |
| We're all doing this? | |
| Yes. | |
| Oh, I thought you were saying just the people that said by the way. | |
| Yeah, why not? | |
| We'll just go around the table. | |
| I would rather not say, but yeah, I don't know. | |
| I lost my virginity when I was 22, and I've been in one relationship. | |
| So it's use that little thing you calculate. | |
| What did they do? | |
| So they say multiply by three. | |
| Use your little calculations and figure it out. | |
| So it's low then? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What is it? | |
| I'd rather. | |
| I just told you. | |
| I mean. | |
| It's one? | |
| Everyone has. | |
| Is it one? | |
| Well, I said use the calculations, you know, so like. | |
| So, okay, so it's three? | |
| Something like that. | |
| All right, first of all. | |
| What about you? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't sit around and count, but probably 20. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sure. | |
| Four. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm not going to put it out there. | |
| Range? | |
| No. | |
| Range? | |
| Come on. | |
| More than 10? | |
| I'm not going to give you a question. | |
| Less than 10, more than 10. | |
| I don't want to put it out there. | |
| That's my answer. | |
| Okay, well, in any case. | |
| Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number. | |
| Whatever the numbers may be. | |
| So, no, I'm not going to answer your question. | |
| Why not? | |
| Well, I think body count matters. | |
| Thus, I'm not going to answer it. | |
| Okay, but if you pressed us for ours, why won't you give yours? | |
| Well, because I think body count matters. | |
| Yeah, but some of us thought it mattered. | |
| Yeah, I thought it mattered. | |
| And you still made me. | |
| Why people raised their hands? | |
| And you didn't really answer the question. | |
| So you're not going to answer, so I'm going to assume 10, multiply that by 3, so 30. | |
| Well, actually, for men, you divide by 3. | |
| You got some Riz. | |
| For men, you divide by 3, actually. | |
| I don't think so. | |
| That's how it goes. | |
| No, I don't think so. | |
| I'm going to put you at like 30. | |
| You think 30? | |
| You got Riz. | |
| Sure. | |
| I think so. | |
| I can either confirm or deny this guess. | |
| Okay, so you said it was a double standard. | |
| I do think. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| I think often men want women to have a very low body count. | |
| Sure. | |
| And when a woman objects to a man having a higher body count, it's seen like it's absurd. | |
| Why would you ask me that? | |
| Because men are praised for having sexual interactions while women are demeaned for having more sexual interactions. | |
| Sure. | |
| The double standard. | |
| Yeah, I've heard this also go something along the lines of, you know, when a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she's viewed as a slut. | |
| But when a guy does the same thing, he's viewed as gay. | |
| Huh? | |
| Wait, what? | |
| With a lot of women. | |
| Bad joke. | |
| Yeah, because when a man sleeps with more men, oh my god, they're gay. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, but yes, I know what you mean. | |
| But that's that really just comes down to it's easy for women to get laid. | |
| It's hard for men to get laid. | |
| I don't believe that, though. | |
| Women are the gatekeepers of sex. | |
| back to that and ten dollars don't think you're all 403s respect you for coming on and sharing your views would you ever date a virgin a guy saving themselves for marriage do you respect a guy with purity values who respects women um okay so let's do this um We'll do just the first two questions there. | |
| Would you date a virgin and would you date a guy saving himself for marriage? | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| Here, let's just go around the table really quick. | |
| Okay, absolutely. | |
| I would not date a virgin. | |
| Sure. | |
| I did. | |
| I will not again. | |
| I've never dated a virgin, but I would. | |
| I would not. | |
| I would. | |
| I would. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| Go ahead with your point. | |
| Oh, I just explained the disparity between the two of them. | |
| Well, you got interrupted there, so if you could just maybe rewind for a couple of times. | |
| The entire portion? | |
| I can. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was saying that women are often chastised or demeaned because they have a higher body count, where men are praised for having a higher body count. | |
| And there is a stark disparity between two. | |
| That's because it, well, the reason why men are praised is because it's hard for men to get laid. | |
| It's easy for women to get laid. | |
| I disagree. | |
| Women are the gatekeepers of sex, but it doesn't mean that it can't be taken from you. | |
| And many women, and many men are very manipulative with their intent. | |
| And I met plenty of women. | |
| Y'all love to derail the conversation. | |
| I don't understand. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| It's not derailing. | |
| It's not derailing. | |
| Brian has donated $100. | |
| Love him or hate him. | |
| Brian, always spit in straight facts on this podcast. | |
| A-O-K. | |
| And also my body count is over 9,000. | |
| It's over 9,000. | |
| Hold on, I'll play one more time. | |
| It's over 9,000. | |
| Yeah, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Brian, where would you like me to come back? | |
| Because I would rather have a discussion than you feel that I'm derailing the conversation because that's not where I want to go. | |
| But, okay, we're talking about the double standard, and now you want to bring up SA. | |
| I don't, again. | |
| That's not true. | |
| I don't see how it's related. | |
| I'll take it off the table. | |
| Most women who have high body counts, it's not due to SA. | |
| It's due to consensual casual sex. | |
| So I don't see how it's at all related to the conversation. | |
| But if guys were able to, they would too. | |
| I don't get this whole thing about guys get laid less than girls. | |
| Like, I don't understand. | |
| It's true. | |
| How? | |
| Men always have someone to cheat with, though. | |
| That is the same thing. | |
| If they don't get as much girls or the whole scenario, if that's true, how do they always find someone to cheat with? | |
| It makes no sense. | |
| How? | |
| Is that possible? | |
| You're just surrounding yourself by cheaters. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Well, I've never been cheated on personally, but I see it all the time. | |
| I see men that always have multiple girls. | |
| Eric, can you open the door? | |
| Nothing. | |
| It's fucking hot in there. | |
| It is hot. | |
| I'm sweating a million. | |
| Eric, trying to boil us. | |
| Okay, just kidding. | |
| I love you, Eric. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| So you think it's easy for men to get laid? | |
| I, yeah. | |
| I don't think it's as hard as they make it seem. | |
| Bruv. | |
| I will. | |
| No, I think it is really hard because I like girls too, and I can't fucking talk to them to save my life. | |
| So there we go. | |
| Okay, hold on. | |
| You deserve a little. | |
| There we go. | |
| Okay. | |
| You wanted to come in. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I would agree that men have it harder, but it is a specific percentage of men that have it harder. | |
| It's a very high percentage of men, though. | |
| Right, right. | |
| That percentage is large that have it harder. | |
| But that top 1%, that top 1%, which is not going to lie, that women tend to be panning for, have a much higher body count than the everyday woman because they have that access because they've built that access for themselves. | |
| But this is, again, the apex fallacy. | |
| You're looking at the top percentage of men. | |
| I'm speaking in generalities here. | |
| Are there men that are running through chicks who are top tier, really attractive, high-status, wealthy men? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| They tend to have the bigger views. | |
| There's regular men that are doing that. | |
| I'm from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. | |
| I know people down the street that work at the grocery store and still have a girl to cheat with. | |
| So he's not a top earner and he still has someone to sleep with on the side outside of his relationship. | |
| But it's over. | |
| Are there men that are promiscuous? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Are there men that I think all men are women are more promiscuous than men. | |
| Ah, I disagree. | |
| No, I agree with Brian. | |
| Women are more promiscuous. | |
| What world am I living in? | |
| Here's why. | |
| Here's why. | |
| Women have more capability to be promiscuous. | |
| You take an average dude, an average dude, bro, he's going to struggle to get a girlfriend to get laid. | |
| An average chick, if she was so inclined, could sleep with three new guys a day. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, that's fine. | |
| I think all of that. | |
| I mean, I could see it that way. | |
| So the standard stems from jealousy then is what you're saying? | |
| It's not jealousy. | |
| It's just it's easier for women to get laid. | |
| Okay, so if it's easier. | |
| So that's why men are praised for it because it's viewed as it's a pair of people. | |
| Because it's more of an accomplishment. | |
| It's difficult to get laid aside. | |
| It's fair, and I'm sure that's incredibly frustrating, but I don't think it's fair to be so hateful to the women who are able to have sex. | |
| Like, that's somebody else's life, not yours. | |
| It shouldn't affect you. | |
| I'm not being hateful. | |
| Your chat. | |
| I'm addressing your viewers, not you. | |
| I'm saying, like, in general, like, if a guy sees like a woman and like his immediate thought is, oh, she's a hoe. | |
| She has an active sex life. | |
| You're free to think what you want. | |
| That's fine. | |
| At the same time, you're not actively sleeping with her. | |
| That's not your girlfriend. | |
| Why does somebody else's life and their choices affect you so deeply that you have to direct hate towards them? | |
| Well, I mean, there's a couple questions there, but I mean, I think generally speaking, there's kind of a counterculture going on where people are not particularly enthused with hookup culture. | |
| I'm not either. | |
| But I don't think name-calling and singling out women to shame them for their private lives is. | |
| So how do we get rid of hookup culture? | |
| Well, we can't. | |
| Women. | |
| We can't. | |
| Women need to be cultivated. | |
| I think women need to start shaming women on this one. | |
| Yeah, women can stop. | |
| I'm not going to shame. | |
| Because we are the ones who decide outside of, you know, the other stuff. | |
| We are the ones who decide if a man is going to sleep with us or not. | |
| If you would say no, like, for example, the cheating thing, like, men would not be able to cheat on their girls if there wasn't a woman that was willing in saying yes. | |
| We are the ones who hold the power to that. | |
| We're the ones who control a hookup culture or whatever you want to call it. | |
| Like, it's our power. | |
| We can say no. | |
| I won't shame anyone, man or woman, because I feel like people's private lives are exactly that. | |
| They're private lives and it doesn't involve me. | |
| But that's only if you have a problem with hookup culture. | |
| Like, if you don't care, like, if you're for it, then whatever. | |
| Do what you want to do with your life. | |
| But for people who, you know, have a problem with it, just know you as a woman, you're the one who has the control over that. | |
| Like 100%. | |
| I don't partake in hookup culture, but I think like generally, I don't think anyone should shame anyone. | |
| You said you don't partake in hookup culture. | |
| I mean. | |
| Because I'm in a long-term relationship. | |
| And even. | |
| You previously partook in hookup culture. | |
| No, not really. | |
| I don't think there's not many times that I'm not in a long-term relationship. | |
| Excuse me if I'm misquoting, and I'm not saying this to attack you, but didn't you say your body count was like 14? | |
| Yes. | |
| I mean, I don't suspect all of those were long-term relationships. | |
| Obviously, I did have hookups, but it's not a regular thing I would ever partake. | |
| Sure, there's definitely girls who are more consistent in participating in huge culture. | |
| And I think that's fine. | |
| You know, again, like, that's their private life and that's their business. | |
| And I don't think anyone should shame anyone, even if you disagree with hookup culture. | |
| At the end of the day, you lay in your bed and you have your own thoughts and issues to reckon with. | |
| You know, everybody else's life is just that. | |
| They're like, we're all in this shit together. | |
| You know, like, you can't change what somebody wants to do with their body. | |
| You can only be responsible for yourself. | |
| And I think a lot more people need to be focusing on themselves rather than what others are doing. | |
| Okay, so to bring it back to the double standard, one of the reasons why there's a different standard on this is because it's very easy for women to get laid and it's hard for men to get laid. | |
| Do you agree with that? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Oh, me. | |
| I know you disagree. | |
| you think it's easy for men to get laid I don't think all like I don't think all women have it easy I think, again, it's like a top percentage that predominantly are viewed as attractive that have it very easy. | |
| I would say like almost barring like morbid obesity or like severe, like I'm talking like bottom one percentile in terms of physical attractiveness. | |
| I would say the top 90% of women could like fuck a new dude every single day of the week. | |
| Yeah, men don't say no. | |
| Like on Tinder, we had a girl, okay, we had a girl last show who pleasant girl. | |
| I'm not saying this to be insulting to her or to denigrate her in any way. | |
| She was of below average attractiveness. | |
| She was overweight. | |
| She said she had a sex addiction. | |
| She said that her body count was 136, something like that. | |
| And she was at one point sleeping with, she had slept with, I don't know how consistent it was, but at one point she was able to sleep with six men in one day. | |
| In order for a male to do that, you need to, I don't even think like a top tier guy just solely on top 1% of physical attractiveness could do that. | |
| In order for a guy to do that, you need status. | |
| You need to be like Drake. | |
| You need to be a male celebrity, like top tier athlete, musician, or actor to sleep with six new women in a day. | |
| I don't even, like I said, I don't even think a top tier male who doesn't have status could do that. | |
| So, and she's like a below, I'm not saying this to be mean, but just to articulate my point, she's like below average. | |
| Six dudes in a night. | |
| Very few men can claim being able to do that. | |
| Most men struggle to get a match on Tinder, to get a date off of Tinder. | |
| Well, men are just way less picky as well. | |
| Right. | |
| So their standards are less. | |
| What's that? | |
| I see your point. | |
| Oh, I'm not just saying that. | |
| For women, what you're saying. | |
| Almost. | |
| Yeah, I completely agree with you when I'm saying it because men, as long as they're having sex, they usually don't care. | |
| Unless they're looking for a relationship and that's a good situation. | |
| Any single girl at this table, and to be fair, we got some attractive girls at the table. | |
| Any single girl at this table could download Tinder right now. | |
| It's 9.11 p.m. | |
| You could get laid tonight if you were so inclined. | |
| Do any of you think you could, if you were so inclined, you could download the dating app and get laid tonight? | |
| 100%. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Most guys cannot answer that question confidently. | |
| Most guys cannot say on a Sunday at 9 p.m., it's going to be hard for me to fuck a girl tonight. | |
| I couldn't do that shit. | |
| I couldn't do that. | |
| Skillish always find someone. | |
| Skillish. | |
| I thought I had Riz. | |
| What's up? | |
| Throw me under the bus. | |
| Throw me under the bus. | |
| No, but it's just different. | |
| It's different. | |
| But you still think that it's easier for men to get laid? | |
| I just, I don't think it's as hard as, I don't know, maybe it's the type of guys that I'm mostly around. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe that's it because I'm mostly around like people in the entertainment industry sure, so maybe that's what I'm seeing, but I don't know. | |
| I like I said like I know people from my hometown that are not like if you want to like, put rates to it, like below average or not regular men, and they still have multiple people to sleep with. | |
| So I don't, I don't know. | |
| Well, it's like okay those, there's statistics, and then there's what I've seen in my life. | |
| Okay, so there's a couple things. | |
| So, besides looks, men are able to be attractive to women in other ways besides just their physical appearance. | |
| So there's a few ways. | |
| Status is one game. | |
| Riz, on one hand, I think I got, I got a couple moves here and there adds to it for sure. | |
| On the other hand, I'm like my own biggest cock block because I say some like ridiculous shit. | |
| Appreciative, I think I'm like slightly, I don't know, am I? | |
| Guys chat one in the chat? | |
| If you guys think I'm autistic, I don't know. | |
| Oh, I'm autistic. | |
| Buddies commonality, what is Riz? | |
| Am I? | |
| I learned that on TikTok. | |
| No, I literally just learned what that was on TikTok. | |
| So don't be 29, so we're. | |
| I want to say I've probably talked myself out of pussy more than I've ever talked myself into it. | |
| You think your podcast turns off women? | |
| Yeah, probably there's probably. | |
| I don't know if there's any girls watching, but his DMs are. | |
| All the guys watching are about me. | |
| It's like no matter, it doesn't matter what you say. | |
| It's like they're always they're gonna find a way to be like you're either capping or you're disgusting, or you're you're oh wrong yeah no, base music and keyboards or thing for a reason. | |
| Well okay, to answer your question, especially living in Santa Barbara, which is a really liberal city. | |
| It's also a very wealthy city. | |
| It's also wealthy. | |
| Yes yeah, definitely like. | |
| Girls have like checked out my podcast and been like, yeah, I don't know Brian, it's a little uh controversial, you know. | |
| So it is what it is like, but honestly I don't really care. | |
| Like there's no such thing as bad press. | |
| You do what you do for clicks well, I guess. | |
| But in the romantic realm definitely, women have been like it's definitely off-putting, bro. | |
| I mean I have like put because I've brought on like more conservative excuse me, conservative people and they're like, oh my god, fucking Michael Knowles and shit, what the fuck. | |
| And they're like, I'm not even I don't. | |
| I consider myself pretty moderate, but they see oh, he has conservative people on. | |
| He must be like hardcore conservative. | |
| Whatever you know I would, I'm not gonna get into politics. | |
| I'd have to go through you with, excuse me, I'd have to go through each of my political stances one by one. | |
| I wouldn't just say I'm this or I'm that. | |
| I'd in any case um, but yeah, definitely. | |
| Uh, I've lost some girls because of the podcast, but well, I would contribute to like woke culture and the change and that like people just look at politics as whether it aligns with them or not and they're not willing to see you pass that at all. | |
| So yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. | |
| And well, in addition to that, there's definitely girls who are like whoa, you're kind of out there in the public and like I don't know if I'd want to be dating someone who's kind of. | |
| You know, some corporate chick works in fucking HR at some fucking tech company in Goleta or whatever is, I don't know. | |
| It's kind of like a jab at me, yes, literally in office and HR manager at a tech company in Goleta. | |
| You're. | |
| You're in HR. | |
| Hold on, you're in HR, correct red flag? | |
| Okay, I'm sorry, but you seem based, but still a girl in HR. | |
| That's red flag. | |
| Also, travel nurses and air, was it steward? | |
| What's the flight attendants, excuse me? | |
| Yeah, So, but in the same way, like I'm getting the experience that I think OnlyFans girls get, because there's guys who don't want to date women because they do OnlyFans. | |
| I'm sure you guys have maybe had that experience. | |
| You guys do OnlyFans. | |
| Yes. | |
| Some guys might have an issue dating you because of that. | |
| That's fine. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I'm not forcing anybody to like me. | |
| Word? | |
| Good times. | |
| Word? | |
| But okay, so did you have more on the double standard? | |
| I don't feel like I've adequately addressed your argument. | |
| Oh, it was more to inquire whether or not you believe there is one, and then secondly. | |
| There is one, but it's justified. | |
| It's justified. | |
| But is it like, are you going to really care that much? | |
| Okay, great question. | |
| In your dating life, what is a okay zone for your person you're pursuing to have a body count in? | |
| What's her body count? | |
| Like, what are you okay with before it becomes an issue? | |
| Sure. | |
| I mean, it varies. | |
| Obviously, the lower the better. | |
| I'd say the lower the better. | |
| You would date a virgin? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| that's like preferred. | |
| I mean, the thing is, is that's rare. | |
| So it's, but. | |
| But would I find that more attractive? | |
| Yes. | |
| I don't believe that men really want virgins. | |
| As a 22-year-old who was a virgin, I don't, no. | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Because then you have to learn everything. | |
| It takes practice to be good. | |
| Yeah, it actually does. | |
| Oh, my. | |
| There's a lot of men that would rather have the ego boost of you learning from them and you having a lower body count. | |
| There's so many out there that take that in such stride. | |
| And I'm not saying I agree, but repetitively, I've heard it. | |
| I feel like men love hoes. | |
| No, they like the idea of it. | |
| That's what they like. | |
| The idea is appealing to have good sex, right? | |
| But more often when men are dating for long-term commitment, they're looking for somebody with that lower body count so that person can learn with them and be more submissive towards how his demeanor is and what he likes. | |
| So it's like it's a catering factor. | |
| I guess. | |
| I guess. | |
| Sex is not a complicated procedure. | |
| Like, especially as a guy, because even with women who are experienced sexually, they're still going to be looking to the guy to lead in the bedroom, generally speaking. | |
| Like, most women, even if they do have experience, don't want to fuck with a guy who's inexperienced anyways. | |
| So your experience when it comes to sex is kind of irrelevant. | |
| And like as a guy, if you're a leader and you have experience when it comes to sex, you can take a girl who's a virgin and have great sex with her. | |
| Because that woman's on your own. | |
| I don't mind a guy who's inexperienced. | |
| I think that's a rumor. | |
| And then he'll cheat on her with a hoe. | |
| Men and women are not the same. | |
| That goes without saying, but I'm saying you said that woman wouldn't want a guy who's inexperienced, but that doesn't bother me. | |
| It wouldn't bother you if your partner couldn't perform good oral on your own. | |
| If they're inexperienced and they haven't had the practice, like, sure, I'll teach them a thing or two. | |
| Yeah, you can definitely do that. | |
| That's great for you. | |
| However, most women don't want to teach men how to fuck them. | |
| Have you spoken to most women about that? | |
| Most women do have to do that. | |
| What makes sex so amazing is communication. | |
| Okay, sure, but most women want men who come pre-assembled. | |
| How do you know? | |
| Because it's first off, it's self-evident. | |
| Is it? | |
| Yeah, or based off of the men they get on our own. | |
| Yes, I'm speaking in generalities. | |
| I'm more than happy to generalize men also. | |
| We're speaking in generalities here. | |
| I don't think we should generalize anybody. | |
| Well, I mean, if we're going to have a productive conversation, there needs to be some degree of generalizing. | |
| Otherwise, we can talk about. | |
| We can talk about the dating, the dating experiences of biracial dwarves. | |
| I mean, yeah, exactly. | |
| It's just like we're going to generalize. | |
| Otherwise, we can talk about non-binary biracial dwarves and their experience. | |
| Okay, I get your asexual divorce. | |
| I'm saying I disagree with your generalization. | |
| I think that comes from a place of personal bias. | |
| I don't, whoa, that was a large bug. | |
| Anyways, I don't think most women mind a guy who's inexperienced. | |
| I literally think it comes down to the person. | |
| I haven't, like, I've known hundreds of women in my lifetime, and I've heard every opinion from I want a guy who knows what he's doing to I want a virgin and everything in between. | |
| So I don't think it's fair to make that generalization. | |
| Most women would prefer men who are sexually experienced in bed and know what they're doing. | |
| I agree. | |
| Most women would find it a turnoff. | |
| You might be willing to do it, but at some level, it's going to be a turnoff if you have to instruct a guy on how to fuck you. | |
| Women want men who just get it. | |
| I'm not saying all women. | |
| However, generally speaking, I would say, like, it's because women, typically when it comes to sex, women do, there's a Dom sub component to it. | |
| Women like to like men who can lead. | |
| Women like to be submissive in the bedroom, generally speaking. | |
| Are there some women who are dominant and who are fine teaching and leading in the bedroom? | |
| Sure. | |
| But I would say, generally speaking, women want men to take charge and take the lead in the bedroom. | |
| So you're saying so most women. | |
| No, I agree, because most women that I speak to, they don't want to date virgins. | |
| They want, you know, someone who's experienced. | |
| And most of the guys that get all the girls or all the women, they're out there. | |
| So it's fine, though, when the woman is inexperienced. | |
| Yeah, what is your reasoning on the virgin preference? | |
| Like, why? | |
| Because. | |
| Low body count is one. | |
| Well, there's no body count. | |
| But what does that mean to you? | |
| Men find low body count and sexual purity attractive. | |
| Why? | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's biological reasons, there's social reasons. | |
| Sure, absolutely. | |
| So I've made a list. | |
| So, I mean, the chief thing, I don't think it's the. | |
| Let me preface it by saying, I don't think it's going to be the most compelling argument that I can tell you. | |
| I don't think you're going to be like, whoa, I'm convinced, Brian. | |
| However, I think it's probably one of the strongest things as to why men care about body count. | |
| So aside from avoiding STDs, it comes down to paternity, guaranteeing paternity. | |
| So it's evolutionary psychology, biological reasons. | |
| If a woman has 10 husbands, sorry, excuse me. | |
| Actually, no, that's fine. | |
| If a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them concurrently, who's the father of the child that she will eventually bear? | |
| You don't know. | |
| Okay, DNA tests came around 40 years ago. | |
| That doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary hardwiring. | |
| Did you know that if you enter into a monogamous relationship with somebody who's not a virgin, but their past is their past? | |
| So if you're monogamous with that person from that point onwards, you know if she gets pregnant who the father is. | |
| So that kind of becomes void. | |
| The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. | |
| So if someone's previously promiscuous, they're more likely to cheat. | |
| There's a higher likelihood of the purpose of the purpose. | |
| I didn't say promiscuous. | |
| I just said somebody who's not a virgin because you said you prefer a virgin. | |
| Well, what if somebody's been in long-term relationships or they've been married, so obviously not a virgin? | |
| Sure, and that's more preferable than a woman who's been with 10, as is a woman who's been with 10 is more preferable than a woman who's been with 20, et cetera, et cetera. | |
| You're allowed to have your boundaries. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I'm just saying, like, if, like, why is a total virgin preferable then? | |
| Okay, so, well, it's just like, wouldn't it, here's a comparison. | |
| Wouldn't it be preferable to date a guy who has $300,000, who makes $300,000 a year? | |
| Wouldn't it be preferable if it was $400,000, $500,000, $600,000, $1 million, et cetera, et cetera? | |
| So obviously the lower the body count, and that extends all the way to zero. | |
| Is that because you see them as damaged goods every time they get a new body? | |
| Well, there is something to hold on. | |
| Martin donated $100. | |
| Thank you, Martin. | |
| Ladies, you've got thousands of men watching right now shocked at how utterly wrong your understanding of men is. | |
| Your fathers and brothers completely failed you. | |
| Elon, create a time machine so we can go back in time and slap the fuck out of these men. | |
| I can't understand you with Elon's dick in your mouth. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Okay. | |
| Mark Wavius, Sean's fired. | |
| How many, let me see, how many? | |
| But don't you think that perspective is dated? | |
| What perspective? | |
| Needing a woman that has a lower body count due to the fact that you have to figure out who the father is. | |
| Like, those are all very dated perspectives. | |
| Why are women attracted to tall men? | |
| I don't care about height. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Okay, I don't know. | |
| Give me this. | |
| Generally speaking, do most women prefer to date men taller than them? | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| Most, yeah. | |
| Me, nothing. | |
| Why? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Why? | |
| No, it's not personal preference. | |
| I'm not going to share your argument. | |
| It's a protective aspect. | |
| It's a biological aspect. | |
| It's an evolutionary thing. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| Don't know about that whole. | |
| Like, there are tribes out there that literally, women, do you sleep with every man in the tribe? | |
| I would say that's the whole tribe wants to raise the child as one. | |
| Careful. | |
| I was going to say that. | |
| You're going to tread on the, if you say it's disgusting, you're going to tread danger. | |
| Why? | |
| It's what? | |
| I just thought maybe you were treading somewhere. | |
| No, but what would it be? | |
| What would it be if I was about to say what I was about to say? | |
| It's just, it would go against a lot of traditional historical behaviors that have been. | |
| It's not our modern day society. | |
| It's okay for them to have done that for generations. | |
| That's their traditions. | |
| And it's an old belief system. | |
| Are we in the Paleolithic here? | |
| I don't know what to keep their belief systems? | |
| No, okay. | |
| I was about to say, if a woman is sleeping with an entire tribe, I think that's disgusting. | |
| Even if that's the tribal beliefs of their group and that's been staying there for years. | |
| As a rational individual who's capable of thought, I'm entitled to let me finish. | |
| I'm entitled to making judgment calls about different cultures. | |
| That would be like ethnocentric, though. | |
| Would you feel the same way if the tribe's belief was centered around one man sleeping with all the women in the tribe? | |
| What's the question? | |
| Would you still feel like it was disgusting if the genders were reversed in this situation? | |
| And the tribe was one man sleeping with all of the women in his tribe. | |
| I'll answer that in two ways. | |
| So first, I would say women are more than capable of having the same position as me. | |
| So if a woman was disgusted by that, I think that's totally fine. | |
| Now, there are certain biological differences in the example that you gave. | |
| From a practical point of view, I think I'm in favor of monogamy for both men and women. | |
| So practically speaking, I think that would be disastrous for the tribe because whoever that one dude is who's fucking all the chicks, the other men in the tribe are going to fucking kill him. | |
| So you're basing that off of society now. | |
| Like you're bringing like jealousy and all kinds of stuff that wasn't a thing back then. | |
| I think jealousy is not a problem. | |
| No, jealousy didn't exist. | |
| I think jealousy has always been a significant thing. | |
| No, okay, fine. | |
| Fine. | |
| Possibly. | |
| But the whole reason why they did this is because they wanted a child to be able to have the traits of all of the men in the tribe. | |
| And so they wanted it to be as diverse as possible. | |
| And no man could have a specific say in anything or more than anyone else. | |
| And so it's just like it's tribe mentality. | |
| It's raising kids up. | |
| Like in the 70s when your neighbors had to watch neighborhood kids and help, you know, quote, parent them. | |
| Okay, in the Western, I don't know what some tribe in Ethiopia, I don't know what some tribe somewhere is doing or has done. | |
| What I can speak about is broadly speaking, in the Western and Eastern world, monogamy has been the norm. | |
| Perhaps in some Muslim countries, there's polygamy. | |
| However, monogamy has been valued up until very recently. | |
| You know, we had Christianity. | |
| Chastity and monogamy was valued for both men and women. | |
| So virginity, bringing it back to that, has been valued for the past 2,000 years in both men and women. | |
| It's only until very recently where we've pretty much destroyed the social order. | |
| So I can't speak to some tribe. | |
| How I don't know. | |
| That's fair. | |
| I'm just saying that's not, that's not everything. | |
| But what was the original? | |
| Your fact was just pretty, like. | |
| What was my fact? | |
| It was more of his opinion of that. | |
| Well, I think I disregarded that. | |
| On a general level, I think promiscuity is disgusting. | |
| It's gross. | |
| I believe in monogamy. | |
| I do believe that. | |
| Okay, for myself, it's like the idea of sleeping with a woman who just slept with the guy the night before to me is disgusting. | |
| And I don't have a double standard on this. | |
| If a woman would be disgusted sleeping with a man who just slept with another girl, I think that's totally fine. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Yeah, that's fair. | |
| But you can't, in order for if a hookup culture exists, if promiscuity exists, having a high body count exists, you can't object to me finding that gross. | |
| Like, I just, well, I suppose you can, but I objected to your opinion on the tribe. | |
| I didn't object to your opinion of you having a preference in your dating mannerisms. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I thought that what you were saying was just like, you know, that. | |
| Martin donated $100. | |
| Here's why body count matters for women. | |
| Assured paternity issues. | |
| STI risk as receptive partner. | |
| Oxytocin trauma. | |
| Increased divorce likelihood and relationship dissatisfaction with increased number of partners. | |
| Breakup trauma masculinizes women. | |
| Then that's fine. | |
| Date who you're comfortable with. | |
| Yeah, so I mean, I'll go back to the, he kind of articulated a lot of the things. | |
| So paternity uncertainty. | |
| So, excuse me. | |
| Aren't we past that, though? | |
| Well, I didn't fully explain that, but basically, men have an evolutionary reason for that that doesn't exist in women because if a man has 10 wives and they all get pregnant, you know who the father is. | |
| However, if a woman has 10 husbands and she sleeps with all of them, you can't guarantee who the father is. | |
| Don't worry, the screen's gonna go black for a sec. | |
| We're still alive. | |
| The other thing, like he said, STDs. | |
| The more promiscuous you are, the more likely you are to have or get an STD. | |
| Vice versa for men. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes. | |
| Because men are. | |
| True. | |
| But I'm telling you why men care about body count. | |
| Ooh. | |
| And why body count matters. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you can definitely say that it's just about these disgusting factors or what you think is disgusting and whatever versus like a control aspect and wanting to mold someone into what's happening. | |
| It's not controlling. | |
| Because I feel like that's an underlying aspect that is hard to deny. | |
| What you call controlling, I just call having a preference. | |
| But based on someone who has zero experience. | |
| Right. | |
| So you're taking advantage of her expert naivete. | |
| That's not true. | |
| How is it taking advantage of someone? | |
| I don't see how that is. | |
| Having a preference for someone who has less light, who has no STD, if we're talking about virgins, who has less likelihood of an STD, who's more capable of pair bonding, there's a lesser likelihood of infidelity. | |
| There's a lesser likelihood of relationship dissatisfaction. | |
| They've done studies on this. | |
| The more premarital sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of divorce, the greater likelihood of infidelity, and the greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction, marriage dissatisfaction. | |
| But that goes for both parties, not just men and not. | |
| Or so for women, but yes. | |
| I feel like this just goes back to what I said, which is exactly do what you want, do who you want, what you're comfortable with, and let others do the same. | |
| But I'm being called selfish for thinking everybody should just do what they want and not judge others, which I find interesting. | |
| I think it's actually selfless to just exist in your own space and just be at peace with the world. | |
| You know, you don't have to have an opinion about everybody else. | |
| There are a lot of times in my life where I'll see somebody doing or saying something I disagree with, and I found the most peace in just accepting it. | |
| I've already been released from the obligation to have a take by Marcus Aurelius. | |
| I don't have to feel any kind of way about anybody or what they're doing. | |
| And I don't find that selfish at all. | |
| I'm not really following. | |
| I'm saying it's interesting that we can't just all coexist and let people do what they want. | |
| Like if somebody prefers a virgin or prefers somebody with experience, that's fine. | |
| I accept that people are promiscuous. | |
| Yeah, then that's fine. | |
| I accept that people are promiscuous. | |
| We're here to have a conversation and a debate, and so we're pushing back on certain things. | |
| It's not a problem. | |
| But what I do think is unfair, if you're going to call something, like, disgusting, I think that's... | |
| Yes, I think promiscuity is disgusting. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| So you're not promiscuous? | |
| Yeah, so you're proud of it. | |
| So why is he not allowed to say that based on your whole theory right now? | |
| Well, he is, but at the same time, I'm saying, wouldn't it bring you more peace just to not judge others? | |
| Well, I mean, I don't spend my time thinking about all the people that are getting herpes out there and that are destroying their ability to pair bond with future partners. | |
| I don't really give it a whole bunch of thought outside of this podcast, but we're having a conversation about it, so I'm engaged in the conversation. | |
| I don't spend my time like, oh my God, these fucking people are just fucking like crazy. | |
| Like, I don't really, like, I accept that people are promiscuous. | |
| Like, it is what it is. | |
| Well, it's not so much you in particular. | |
| It's your viewer base. | |
| It's like they're not. | |
| It's against promiscuity. | |
| Goodness. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I'm not saying you interrupted me. | |
| I would like it if you could let me finish. | |
| I'm saying they just see us as hoes no matter what we do when it's like you guys would all find a lot more peace if you just let people exist. | |
| I would say we're not hoes for existing. | |
| I wouldn't take what they're saying personally. | |
| Like, who knows who these people are? | |
| Like, what they're going to do is they're going to be a lot of people say so many times. | |
| I don't have a discussion person to person. | |
| Why are we basing this off of the comments? | |
| Yes, good point. | |
| Let's keep the conversation related. | |
| I mean, the comment, the people in the chat might be like talking about like I just think it's a greater indicator of like where we are like societally is that everybody is really happy to bring everyone else down. | |
| Don't base it off of this narrow homage. | |
| As the female receptive partner, you are 47% more likely to catch STIs. | |
| The total skin area and thinness of the vaginal walls is far more susceptible to disease than is the penile skin. | |
| Do you not understand science and biology? | |
| Or is that too patriarchal? | |
| Source? | |
| Are you a doctor? | |
| I mean... That sounds like some made-up numbers. | |
| I'm going to need a source. | |
| If you can provide me with a source, I'll believe you. | |
| Markuavius, I guess she's asking for a source. | |
| Okay, who was speaking? | |
| I apologize. | |
| Oh, I was just saying, like, I wouldn't, like, take this narrow group of people and compare that to society as a whole. | |
| I mean, that's, this is a small, like, it's not. | |
| I'm just going based off of my experience. | |
| There's a whole world. | |
| Like, my entire life, it's like, I've just wanted to exist and make friends and have a good time. | |
| And it's like over and over and over again. | |
| I'm just, I'm faced with this judgment just for being a woman. | |
| And I'm not even a promiscuous woman. | |
| Could it be related to your OnlyFans? | |
| Before that, too. | |
| I'm saying, like, starting from like age 12, I want to say, is when this, when it started. | |
| It's real this shit all the time. | |
| All right. | |
| You started what? | |
| Started. | |
| You were being slut-shamed at 12 years old. | |
| As a 12-year-old virgin, yes. | |
| It's like automatically they see a woman and their first thought is, oh, she's a hoe. | |
| That's not my first thought when I see a woman. | |
| I'm not saying it's yours. | |
| I'm saying that's a lot of people because they've been conditioned to just think negatively of women without getting to know them. | |
| But if you're okay with yourself and the choices that you decide to make in life, you shouldn't be concerned what anyone else thinks of you. | |
| Like, be okay with yourself and be okay with who you are. | |
| And who cares what anyone else thinks? | |
| The people that are supposed to be in your life, you will draw those type of people. | |
| The people that, like, you know, are giving you a hard time or you're getting that negative. | |
| They're going to be aware of that. | |
| You're right. | |
| You're right. | |
| And that's true. | |
| Do what you preach. | |
| You're right. | |
| And that's true. | |
| But I'm saying for the sake of discussion, I think it is interesting and sad seeing how so many people treat each other. | |
| I think war is bad. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Poverty is bad. | |
| Yeah, I'm bad. | |
| Starving children is bad. | |
| It won't ever change, but neither will promiscuity, neither will hook up culture. | |
| And here we are discussing it. | |
| I think it's not will be static forever. | |
| Yeah, I think it's just natural for people to have opinions on things and have beliefs. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Thank you, Markavius. | |
| Brian, do you possess the evidence that I am a Mensa member and a team research leader at a think tank in Tennessee? | |
| I have countless published studies and white papers on these topics. | |
| He also owns like 30 Quiznos, by the way. | |
| Oh, cool. | |
| I mean, that's like, should talk to me when you own 40. | |
| I mean, that should do something for his credibility. | |
| He owns like a shit ton of Quiznos. | |
| He can talk to me when you sandwich. | |
| Markuavius, you need to expand your franchise ownership. | |
| Okay, so here let's, by the way, Eric, that was a very good little hide there of the Twitch overlay. | |
| Well done. | |
| Let's pull up the Twitch while we're at it. | |
| Let me shout out to Twitch people. | |
| Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever. | |
| Yo, Green Bean, thank you for the prime. | |
| Go to twitch.tv slash whatever. | |
| Open up another tab. | |
| You guys were just prepped to do this. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Give us a follow. | |
| Drop us a prime sub if you have it. | |
| Link your Amazon account to Twitch. | |
| And every month you can sub to us totally free. | |
| It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every month. | |
| You know, YouTube, demonetization, all that. | |
| So just like a really easy way to support the show if you don't want to like, you know, super chat or anything like that. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| Oh my God, the Twitch followers on fire. | |
| Who was that? | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| I sorry, I missed it. | |
| Definitely a hetero. | |
| Thank you for the prime. | |
| Oh my God, super squishy. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Oh my God, you guys are on fire. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Okay. | |
| Thank you guys. | |
| Okay, so body count. | |
| Word? | |
| What word? | |
| Exactly. | |
| What word? | |
| Huh? | |
| Huh? | |
| Do what you want. | |
| I will. | |
| All right, let me do something. | |
| Oh, you wanted to come in? | |
| I'm just saying body count should be discussed between your partners. | |
| And if the person objects, do not continue to engage because it's going to create further conflict down the line. | |
| If you are somebody that wants less, c'est la vie. | |
| If you are somebody that does not care about past history, do understand because you mentioned what was, you used a specific term of connection. | |
| Pair bonding. | |
| Pair bonding. | |
| Yep. | |
| Study that. | |
| I would highly encourage people that don't know what pair bonding is to study it just a little bit because no matter your sex, it can affect your future relationships. | |
| Oh, so you're kind of agreeing? | |
| The more sexual partners you've had, the lower your ability to pair bond with future partners. | |
| If you're uneducated. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Just connect? | |
| No. | |
| Would you? | |
| Well, I mean, an easier way to look at it would be the ability to bond and pair with someone and to fall in love with them. | |
| It's emotional attachment. | |
| Emotional attachment, yeah. | |
| Yeah, and this can occur whether you're a male or female or spectrum-wise. | |
| The more partners you do have, psychology would say that it does make it more difficult for you to bond with a singular individual due to your experiences and how you perceive your partner. | |
| Are you saying you do agree with that? | |
| I do. | |
| I do agree with pair bonding. | |
| I think the more partners you have, it does make it more difficult for you to form longevity within your relationships. | |
| I don't think that overarching body count matters too much, but psychology would tend to disagree in some aspects. | |
| And I can't argue with, I'd study, I can't argue with psychology necessarily. | |
| Yeah, I mean, there's, I guess I'll add one thing. | |
| There's also this concept, and I think it typically is, I suppose it could happen to men, sort of, but it would be a different term, I guess. | |
| But there's this concept called alpha widow, where once you've hooked up or slept with or been in a relationship with a certain tier of man, a certain attractiveness of man, a guy who fucks you just right, it's going to be really hard to pair bond with a guy who doesn't match up to that. | |
| And here's where women get in trouble on this and men don't. | |
| As we already discussed, it's much easier for women to get laid than it is for men. | |
| So here's where women can get in trouble on this. | |
| An average woman can sleep with a guy who's of a higher status than her, who's more wealthy than her, who is more physically attractive than her. | |
| Because men will sleep down. | |
| Yeah, men will sleep down, whether that's socioeconomic status, whether that's looks, because we welcome the easy access to sex. | |
| So the difference there between men and women is, as a woman, for you to want to sleep with a guy, even for a one-night stand, he has to be at least attractive enough physically for you to be in a relationship with him. | |
| He might not be relationship material, but he has to at least be physically attractive enough for you to sleep with him. | |
| Whereas men, we will sleep with women who we would never be in a relationship with based solely on their physical attractiveness, but we welcome the easy access to not all men, but men welcome the easy access to sex, so they'll sleep with a woman that they would never be in a relationship with based solely on their physical attractiveness. | |
| Don't you have a diagram that you believe shows this accurately? | |
| A diagram. | |
| It shows hypergamy. | |
| I don't know if I have a diagram on this, but basically. | |
| I thought you had a I've watched one podcast. | |
| I'm not sure. | |
| I'm not going to pull anything up right now unless you can maybe more precisely tell me what the diagram is. | |
| But so as a woman, if you hook up with a really top-tier guy in terms of physical attractiveness, you're not like when here's the thing. | |
| Let's say you're a seven or a six. | |
| You could like hook up with a dude who's an eight, right? | |
| He might not ever commit to you. | |
| That's where women get fuckzoned by the guy. | |
| He might just want you for a one-night stand. | |
| He might just sleep with you a couple times, string you along. | |
| That's where situationships typically play out. | |
| Then when you look at the guy who's actually on your level, who's prepared to commit to you, who's prepared to be in a relationship with you, who's prepared to marry you, even though he's actually your looks equivalent, your socioeconomic equivalent, you think you're settling for him. | |
| Now, luckily, I think most of the girls at this table, none of you considered yourself to be tens, but we've had girls come on the show who they say, I think I'm a 10. | |
| Now, I don't know where that stems from. | |
| Maybe they've been able to hook up with really attractive guys that never committed to them, but that's where, again, that's where women get into trouble. | |
| They're able to hook up with guys of a certain status or certain physical attractiveness. | |
| And then they think, oh, that guy was a 10 who I hooked up with. | |
| Thus, I must be a 10 too. | |
| But that's not how it works. | |
| So then you look, let's say you're a seven. | |
| You look at the guy who's actually in reality a seven. | |
| You think you're settling for him, even though that's your looks equivalent. | |
| That's your looks match. | |
| I agree. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You're shaking. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| The whole concept of looks being so predominant on the scale system, like this arbitrary scale, it's so like looks are in the eye of the beholder. | |
| There's so many people that have separate, different preferences. | |
| So they really like interrupting you by 101. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| I'm a top 1% earner. | |
| Body count matters to a point. | |
| I have dated girls who say under five and ones over 40 partners. | |
| A past isn't as important as the present. | |
| If they are still wanting to be in a hoe phase, then hard pass. | |
| Brian, you are the man. | |
| Cool. | |
| There you go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Very well eloquent. | |
| Thank you, Nick. | |
| But I would reiterate again: I appreciate your donation. | |
| Past behavior is a great predictor of future behavior. | |
| So if you were promiscuous in the past, the likelihood that you're more likely to cheat. | |
| That is going to be all to change. | |
| Okay, let me ask you guys a question. | |
| Let's say you found out that you're talking to a guy and you found out that in all his past relationships, key word, past relationships, he cheated on every single one of his partners. | |
| It's his past, right? | |
| Is that not going to be part of the equivalent of the calculus for you? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like, I agreed, like, the cheating thing is a red flag, but like, for instance, I've hooked up with more people than I'd like to, but I'm a totally different person now. | |
| Like, I was on drugs doing all this crazy shit. | |
| So bride. | |
| Give me back the ring. | |
| No, no, no, wait. | |
| Give me back the ring, Ava. | |
| Wait, wait a sec. | |
| But I'm just saying, like, I'm a dude. | |
| I've hooked up with only a few people in the past couple years. | |
| Most of what I did was when I was a different person. | |
| So, like, I think it's sad that you would judge me on who I was when I'm a totally different person now, you know? | |
| I agree. | |
| Sure. | |
| Well, okay. | |
| So that. | |
| Certainly, it's if you had to choose between two women, one who is currently promiscuous and one who is no longer promiscuous but was promiscuous in her past, the choice is obvious, right? | |
| However, would the lesser of two evils opportunity? | |
| But you said, you didn't say promiscuous, you said cheating. | |
| If somebody cheated on all of their past partners, that's very different. | |
| I think you said, bro, that's like more than cheating and like other characteristics. | |
| Right, but you're looking at their past. | |
| Yeah, but you said cheating. | |
| I thought we were talking about promiscuity. | |
| You said promiscuity is a great indicator for how they will be in their future, but then you changed it. | |
| You flipped the script and you said, what if they cheated? | |
| No, I said past behavior is a great predictor for future behavior. | |
| Sure, that's true, but you didn't say promiscuity. | |
| You said specifically cheating. | |
| If somebody specifically cheated on all of their partners, then yes, I would assume that that's out of theirs. | |
| But you can make the same argument. | |
| Well, it was my past. | |
| I made mistakes. | |
| I'm a different, I'm a new person. | |
| I've changed. | |
| Sure, you could change anyone. | |
| Or would you have reservations? | |
| I wouldn't believe them. | |
| It would be a difficult conversation that we would have to have. | |
| Right. | |
| And I realize these two things are not entirely the same, but you're looking at their past. | |
| You're making a judgment call on their past behavior. | |
| And you're thinking, because of that past behavior, what does that say about them potentially moving forward? | |
| Well, promiscuity doesn't imply that they'd be so willing to break a boundary. | |
| If they were promiscuous, fine, but if they were cheating, then that's a boundary broken, as opposed to them living a single and consensual life. | |
| Agreed. | |
| So I don't think that's quite fair. | |
| If they're promiscuous in their past, sure, you can have your reservations. | |
| You can be wary. | |
| But I think it's a lot different. | |
| If they're cheating, then they're openly showing you that they've repeatedly broken a specific person's boundaries. | |
| If they're promiscuous in their past, I don't think that's necessarily to say it's not an indicator that they'll cheat on you, is what I'm saying. | |
| It's a totally different subject. | |
| Word. | |
| I got to pull this up really quick. | |
| Yo, David, think you're the 50 man. | |
| A key that opens many locks is better than the lock that opens up to many keys. | |
| It's been about five years since I've considered dating. | |
| I feel like I'd marry anyone who's just sensible at this point. | |
| Last, where do I send job inquiry? | |
| Are you talking about working for whatever? | |
| Brian at whatever.com. | |
| If it's been so long since you've dated anybody and it's likely because you think everybody is like us and promiscuous, you're looking in the wrong places. | |
| Delete social media. | |
| Get off Instagram. | |
| Get off Pornhub. | |
| Get off Reddit. | |
| Get off the internet. | |
| Get off OnlyFans. | |
| Go get off OnlyFans. | |
| I tell people on my OnlyFans, people have come to me and been like, I'm addicted to you. | |
| I'm addicted. | |
| I can't stop. | |
| And I've told them, leave. | |
| Or people who have told me, like, I would like to find an actual relationship. | |
| I tell them, leave. | |
| Just because I'm doing it doesn't mean you have to support what I'm doing. | |
| Get off social media for God's sake. | |
| Go. | |
| Join a yoga class. | |
| Go to the beach. | |
| Join any kind of extracurricular. | |
| Meet people in person. | |
| You are not going to find somebody long-term on the internet like this. | |
| You are not. | |
| Mine is bumble. | |
| Okay. | |
| I found the love of my life. | |
| Minority versus majority. | |
| I mean, most people meet. | |
| The men who think all women are like us. | |
| I strongly recommend you find somebody in the world. | |
| People that are 50 meet their partners. | |
| Okay, so we're talking about perspectives. | |
| Yeah, we're talking about specifically when it comes to demons. | |
| Into the mind. | |
| Well, that's all the men who are all hoes. | |
| The men who think we're all hoes, though. | |
| It's like, okay, if you want to find out. | |
| I'm really caught up on this. | |
| And I'm just saying, if you want to, if you want, if it's been five years and you've had no luck with somebody, it could be that you're looking in the wrong places and maybe it's not the women's fault. | |
| Maybe you're not putting yourself out there. | |
| Question for you guys, since you guys do OnlyFans. | |
| Do you guys do solo content, BG? | |
| What do you guys do? | |
| I do anything and everything. | |
| Avery? | |
| I do. | |
| Can you scoot the mic that way a little bit? | |
| This way? | |
| Yeah, perfect. | |
| I have done a little bit of everything. | |
| Orgies? | |
| No. | |
| Yes. | |
| No. | |
| I've done that. | |
| You've done orgies? | |
| With girls. | |
| With chicks? | |
| Yes, with chicks. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Like, what kind of content is on your OnlyFans? | |
| BG, solo. | |
| I've got BG, solo, girl, girl, boy girl. | |
| That's the same thing. | |
| I just, never mind. | |
| I explained it. | |
| What's that fucking closed nightclub in New York, CBGB? | |
| What is that? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Fucking hold on, those. | |
| All right. | |
| So BG? | |
| Yeah. | |
| With your partner, or just like with my partner. | |
| And we've also done videos with other couples that do OF. | |
| We've done like side-by-side stuff. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| And how long have you guys been doing OnlyFans? | |
| I think coming up on two years? | |
| A year. | |
| Okay. | |
| Have any of you done like traditional adult content or just OnlyFans? | |
| Just OnlyFans. | |
| Just OnlyFans. | |
| Okay, not like corn, so to speak. | |
| I mean, stuff of mine has been leaked, and I've let it stay up there because it brings good press in, but no, not of my own accord. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, question. | |
| How much money do you guys make per month? | |
| Enough for at least two hot dogs. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Give us a range. | |
| No. | |
| Come on. | |
| It's bad juju. | |
| It's good juju. | |
| No. | |
| What about you, Avery? | |
| I should have started with Avery. | |
| Yeah, yeah, because everyone knows I'm the one that spills. | |
| No. | |
| Avery, let's hear it. | |
| It's so all over the place, though. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| Like, it changes something. | |
| How much do you make in a year? | |
| Six figures? | |
| Could you pay someone's tuition here in Santa Barbara? | |
| Do you guys make more than six figures? | |
| Yeah. | |
| A year. | |
| A year. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you make more than six figures a year? | |
| It's bad juju. | |
| Wait, wait, wait. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| I'm going to show you how much I make on OnlyFans. | |
| You mean how much she makes? | |
| Wait. | |
| Oh, yeah, you have one. | |
| No, it's Kiki. | |
| OnlyFans.com/slash whatever. | |
| I literally have to. | |
| No, yeah, that's Kiki. | |
| How much does Kiki make? | |
| Yeah, but I'm going to. | |
| If Kiki pimps does. | |
| I'm running that shit. | |
| You're the pimp. | |
| You want to self-identify as a pimp? | |
| Huh? | |
| You're thinking too much about that. | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| So I'll reveal how much I make on OnlyFans if you guys reveal how much. | |
| I don't care to know. | |
| Me and Kiki are killing it, son. | |
| Do you have enough to buy three hot dogs? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| What's up with you and hot dogs? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Have you two ever had any other job? | |
| I know you do. | |
| I'm literally a pianist. | |
| That's amazing. | |
| A penis? | |
| What? | |
| I'm a pianist. | |
| Oh. | |
| How's your Chopin? | |
| How's my what? | |
| My Chopin? | |
| Not as good as my WC. | |
| Do you like perform? | |
| I used to. | |
| Oh, how cool. | |
| Not so much anymore since the pandemic, but I did. | |
| OnlyFans, I will say my favorite purchase is I got myself a grand piano. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| It's lit. | |
| That's really cool. | |
| Okay, so let me do some super chats here, guys. | |
| Sorry, I'm going to get caught up on the super chats. | |
| All right, the thank you, man, for the 50. | |
| Edie, let me have you read these. | |
| Let's hear that lovely diction voice of yours. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| If that crazy government. | |
| Answer the mic. | |
| If that crazy government cheese pizza watching blood challenge, Brian, then she lost. | |
| She ran away. | |
| These ladies say you have to bring out their feminine energy, but would dump a man if he showed up to the date in a dress and said the same. | |
| Based. | |
| True? | |
| Word? | |
| Okay. | |
| They're still so hung up on her. | |
| Well, this came in a while ago. | |
| Yo, continue eating. | |
| I don't go down the list. | |
| No, you got it. | |
| You're good. | |
| You're good. | |
| Young lady in the white talk, please move to the right side of the table because I'm about to rain fire on the red-haired side of the table. | |
| The red-haired side. | |
| We're called the red-haired side now. | |
| Oh, I love that. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, I think... | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| There are so many opportunities for asteroids. | |
| Fuck. | |
| Hold on. | |
| What is it? | |
| Oh, that. | |
| It's going to work for us. | |
| I thought your monitor broke. | |
| There you go. | |
| Boom. | |
| Okay. | |
| Thank you, Hernman. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Sonny, thank you for the 100. | |
| Avery, why don't you read this one? | |
| Men and women are not the same when it comes to sex and relationships. | |
| This is a fact you women have to accept. | |
| No amount of feminism is going to change that. | |
| As a woman, you should value yourself more. | |
| Women control access to sex, so therefore they bear responsibility. | |
| Word. | |
| Yo, Sonny, thank you for the 100, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Yo, James Wilson, merci bouquoupo la Canadien 140. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| This is. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah, they want to hear more from you. | |
| Why? | |
| So this is a big issue with my friends. | |
| I'm the only sexually active man where all my dudes and they can't even get a date. | |
| They don't understand that because I'm 6'2 and confident and slightly attractive, that I'm the only one getting dates and laid. | |
| Women don't get it. | |
| Yeah, so this is, excuse me, getting tongue-tied here. | |
| This is in response to our conversation where we were talking about men struggling to get laid. | |
| And you, I don't know if I convinced you yet, but you said that men have it easy when it comes to getting laid. | |
| I forgot exactly what you said. | |
| You want to. | |
| I just said that I don't think they have it as hard as people make it seem or like, I don't know. | |
| I think they have it harder than people make it seem. | |
| Most men have seen it. | |
| I'm being really scary. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, I don't know. | |
| Most men that I know that are sexually active are having sex. | |
| So. | |
| Well, most of the men you know that are sexually active are having sex. | |
| They're not lacking. | |
| I mean, that makes sense to me, but. | |
| Yeah, but they're not like struggling. | |
| Like, they just go to the club and take a girl home. | |
| Let me ask you, are you on any dating apps? | |
| No. | |
| You're single, though, correct? | |
| What percentage of men would you Do you get DMs from men Yeah On Instagram How many DMs a day do you get? | |
| I don't know, because I'm not on social media like that. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| Give me a range. | |
| I don't know, like maybe, I don't know. | |
| Depends. | |
| If I'm on social media, maybe like 10 a day? | |
| Yeah, I get it. | |
| Most men won't even get that in their entire lives. | |
| Most men won't even get a DM in their entire lives. | |
| How many of those men, okay, of the 10 men that message you a day, how many of them do you respond to? | |
| Zero? | |
| No, I'm actually really, like, I'll respond to anyone. | |
| I'm not going to respond, like, as in, like, entertain actually meeting up. | |
| Sure, that's what I'm saying. | |
| Oh, then I don't really, like, entertain anybody, but I'm nice. | |
| Like, if someone compliments me, like, I'll be. | |
| And when I say the men who DM you, I'm speaking specifically of the men that are messaging you where it's kind of clear that there's perhaps a romantic interest. | |
| How many of those do you entertain? | |
| None. | |
| Okay, so they're... | |
| What? | |
| Who here's on the dating app currently? | |
| Christian Mingle, I'm assuming? | |
| Me. | |
| Ava? | |
| You know what? | |
| Me. | |
| Oh, you, your own Christian Mingle? | |
| No. | |
| Well, you've got a thing or something. | |
| Of the men you see on dating apps, how many of them do you swipe no on? | |
| What percentage? | |
| Oh, gosh. | |
| I mean, it's, I think it's 60. | |
| No. | |
| 70% no. | |
| 70% no? | |
| Okay. | |
| Anyone else on dating apps? | |
| I had Hinge. | |
| What was the percentage of men that you swiped no or swiped no on? | |
| What was my necklace? | |
| No, I'm edging myself. | |
| I'd have to say like 85% would be a no. | |
| Okay, so you only found like 15% of men attractive. | |
| Yeah, I mean, no, I found a lot of men attractive. | |
| It's just I would swipe left if, because, you know, Hinge has the prompts and stuff. | |
| So if I didn't like what they said in the prompt, then I would just be like, no. | |
| Even if it was like, he was like a 10, super hot, I would just be like, no, because certain prompts did not sit right with me. | |
| Yeah, I feel that. | |
| Okay. | |
| Is this proving a point? | |
| Well, I'm trying to think how I'm going to. | |
| Because still, what I said, though, was, okay, if it's so hard for men to get girls or whatever, then how do they always find someone to cheat with? | |
| And I know. | |
| Who is they? | |
| Like, majority, I don't know. | |
| Is there statistics on how many men cheat? | |
| How many men are you referring to in your own life? | |
| That I've seen cheat? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, a lot of them. | |
| I've seen a lot of men in my, that I've seen throughout life cheat, but I've also seen a lot that haven't. | |
| I don't know if I've ever seen a man. | |
| And I've also seen a lot of women who cheat, and a lot, I know a lot of women who don't. | |
| So it's like, I feel like both sides, there's a lot. | |
| Okay, so you think it's kind of easy for guys to get laid or it's not as hard as people are leading you on. | |
| The reality is, most men are invisible to most women. | |
| Most women can sleep with most men. | |
| Most men cannot sleep with most women. | |
| Women sleep with who they want. | |
| Men sleep with who they can. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, I guess. | |
| Here, Eric, can you pull up that? | |
| We pulled it up a bunch of times. | |
| Maybe that was what I was referring to earlier. | |
| So y'all know men who do not cheat. | |
| I don't cheat. | |
| What's up? | |
| She. | |
| You better be loyal to Avery. | |
| You better be loyal to Avery. | |
| Or you just think they don't cheat. | |
| You actually know they don't cheat or you just think they don't cheat. | |
| You said you don't cheat. | |
| Have you ever cheated before? | |
| No. | |
| Have any of your friends ever cheated that you know of? | |
| Where you could have said something? | |
| Said something to who? | |
| My loyalty is to my friends, not my friend's girlfriend. | |
| Do you support your friend cheating? | |
| but I honestly I don't think I don't think I've ever had a friend come to me and say Brian I'm or I knew that he was fucking another girl I don't know. | |
| Maybe I'm just surrounding myself with decent people. | |
| I'm not really cheated on, and I still have faith in men. | |
| Well, I would say it is men who you surround yourself with. | |
| And if you say that, then I would credit that to your character. | |
| I don't think all men cheat, but I just think there's a high percentage of men who do cheat. | |
| And I'm not saying that it's a bad or a good thing, but it's just things that I've seen, I guess. | |
| And it's not even like, I don't know. | |
| I'm surprised that you guys don't see that as well. | |
| Eric, can you pull, did you pull up the infographic? | |
| What's it called? | |
| Sex frequency, I believe. | |
| I think media frequency. | |
| Sex freak. | |
| More male shooting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's because it's very zooming out a little bit. | |
| Actually, put it on window. | |
| Okay. | |
| Window tab. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So this is from 2018. | |
| This is from the Washington Post. | |
| It was from a general social survey that they do like every 10 years or something. | |
| So share of men and women between the ages of 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year. | |
| So in 2018, there's a 10% difference between men and women. | |
| So 10% more men are reporting having not had sex in the past year. | |
| It's not that much, though. | |
| That's pretty substantial. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| I mean, it's not like 70 and 10, you know? | |
| Well, sure. | |
| I mean, that would probably be social collapse if that shit was happening. | |
| What do you propose we do about that? | |
| What do I propose we do? | |
| Well, I mean, that's a good question. | |
| I don't know what the I'm not sure what the antidote is to that, but I think a return to perhaps more traditional values. | |
| People donated $100 out of love. | |
| Women become entirely what it is that they are in the imaginations of the men who love them. | |
| Of the men you love. | |
| And love you, how does he imagine you? | |
| Yeah, Eric, go back to the chart really quick. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Oh, was this a question? | |
| The big thing is there's a 10% discrepancy between men and women. | |
| But note the change from 2008 to 2018. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| So it's a 20% change. | |
| So that's huge. | |
| That's a huge change. | |
| So what is happening there? | |
| And there's a, Eric, if you can search up like Pew Research DBE, by the way, thank you for the donation. | |
| Was that a question? | |
| I don't know if it was. | |
| Out of love, women. | |
| Of the men you love and love you, how does he met? | |
| Okay, yeah. | |
| Pew Research Singleness, single. | |
| Pew Research Single Men and Women, something like that. | |
| See if you can find the article. | |
| I think it was a Yahoo article that we had previously looked at. | |
| Let me know if you have it, Eric. | |
| I mean, I have Pew Research. | |
| PEW. | |
| Not sure if this is it, but. | |
| What's the date on that? | |
| No, it was recent. | |
| It was like the past month. | |
| See if you can find it again. | |
| Just Pew Research, do 2023 single men, women, something like that. | |
| This is 2023. | |
| Which one? | |
| Motherfucker Valentine's Day. | |
| What are you doing? | |
| Pew Research, Pew Research. | |
| Oh, no, different one, different one. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Actually, go back, go back. | |
| It might be in the related tab over there. | |
| Shit. | |
| Go look at research topics. | |
| Go to research topics there in the left. | |
| Eric? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is there a date, family, and relationships? | |
| Scroll down. | |
| Is this a study where far more women are stating that they're in relationships? | |
| Yes. | |
| Where. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Where is it? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Um, in any case case basically they found that It was really good, too. | |
| Eric, can you keep trying to search? | |
| And I'm going to search on my end. | |
| Pew Research. | |
| So what you're saying is that people are not having sex nowadays. | |
| More men than women are not having sex nowadays. | |
| Basically, here's what's happening. | |
| I think it's the age group of between 18 to 29. | |
| You have women in that age group who are reporting being in relationships. | |
| I think it's like 60% are reporting being, I don't know what the exact number. | |
| Whereas there's like 20% of men in that same age group that are reporting being in relationships. | |
| So that, to me, means two things. | |
| The women are dating in that age group are dating older men and they're all sharing the same guys. | |
| So you'll have a girl who's dating a guy who has like three girlfriends or some shit. | |
| Wouldn't that further support that men are not struggling getting the top tier of men, though? | |
| Okay. | |
| What is top tier? | |
| Like you're talking about. | |
| Like let's say the top 10% of men. | |
| Money. | |
| Well, it could be physical attractiveness. | |
| It could be the whole package. | |
| It could be socioeconomic status. | |
| Okay. | |
| Then just make yourself top tier. | |
| Take care of yourself. | |
| Get an education. | |
| Oh, that's convenient. | |
| Just become top tier. | |
| I mean, if you're going to sit around and complain about top-tier men pulling all the women, why not focus on yourself and grind? | |
| Well, yes, that's good advice. | |
| However, there's certain realities to society. | |
| Not everyone can be a rock star. | |
| Some people are going to have to be garbage men. | |
| Some people are going to be working in fast food restaurants. | |
| That's the reality. | |
| The difference is, is an average woman who works at McDonald's can fuck seven dudes a week. | |
| And an average dude who works at McDonald's ain't no chance in hell he's fucking six chicks a week. | |
| You don't think? | |
| No, I... | |
| I think that's possible. | |
| Oh, you know what? | |
| If he's like a top-tier Chad, maybe. | |
| Oh. | |
| Even then. | |
| Oh, there we go. | |
| What? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| I was waiting for the Chad lingo. | |
| All right. | |
| Well. | |
| Chads and Stacy's and such. | |
| I mean, it's a imaginary names we give to these imaginary people who threaten our security. | |
| Well, I reject that. | |
| It's just an easy way to basically say like a really attractive guy. | |
| That's subjective, though. | |
| Somebody who's a Chad to one person won't be a Chad to everyone. | |
| If you line up 100 women or 100 men and you say, okay, look at these people. | |
| There's going to be some degree of consensus.j slash KJK. | |
| But seriously, guys have to put in work to get laid versus girls. | |
| I agree with that. | |
| Yo, Wilster, thank you, man. | |
| Yes, I'm having like fucking panic attacks at night thinking about this shit. | |
| thank you guys grinders are find a dearth of quality women dated hundred plus most western women are absolute trash pretty butt trash redheads a perfect example Gorgeous face, but would never wife E. Thank you, and no worries. | |
| I'm not interested. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Okay. | |
| Eric, were you able to find it, by the way? | |
| Most men single. | |
| You know what? | |
| It might have been that Valentine's Day one, but I could have sworn there was another one. | |
| Can you just pull up the Valentine's Day one really quick and then? | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Okay, yeah, that's fine. | |
| It is. | |
| Okay, yeah, yeah, you're right. | |
| My bad. | |
| It is a Valentine's Day one, Eric, if you could pull it back up. | |
| Yeah, it says New York Post: six out of ten young men are single, disturbing reasons why. | |
| So it's 63% of men under 30 nowadays are electively single. | |
| Electively single. | |
| I don't know about that. | |
| Eric, can you pull it up? | |
| Okay, yeah, it's here. | |
| So can you make it bigger, please? | |
| Go to the Windows tab, Windows. | |
| Yeah, scroll down. | |
| Okay. | |
| Up, up, up, just up a bit, up a bit. | |
| Yeah, here, that's good, that's good, that's good. | |
| So I'm looking at the let's see, percent of U.S. adults who say they are single. | |
| Men, 32 women. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Oh, varies by age. | |
| Okay, so if you scroll down just a tad, Eric, just a little bit. | |
| So where it says men ages 18 to 29, 63% of men in that age group are reporting being single, whereas women in that same exact age group, if you look below, it says ages 18 to 29, 34% are reporting being single. | |
| So again, to me, that just makes me think they're either dating older men, or what I think is more likely, a large proportion of women are dating the same guys. | |
| And I think a lot of women would rather share like a really top-tier dude than get commitment from the Pew Research is a really reputable statistics and data. | |
| I'm not disagreeing with that. | |
| I'm just, I'm a little fluid and just never. | |
| Well, I mean, it kind of ties into hypergamy. | |
| Like, women have a naturally hypergamous nature. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Elaborate. | |
| I'll be the one to ask. | |
| Elaborate. | |
| Well, just. | |
| Do you want to come in on this? | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sure, I guess. | |
| I mean, I don't know. | |
| Do you want me to define? | |
| I'll define it. | |
| I got it. | |
| Women naturally just tend to gravitate towards men who can either provide for them or protect them. | |
| That's just what we gravitate towards. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| It's like the also, it falls under women won't date men who are in the same socioeconomic status, but they prefer to date men higher, as men could date lower or the same. | |
| It doesn't really matter to them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Where did Brian go? | |
| We lost our host. | |
| Is it a three-for-all? | |
| Three-for-all. | |
| I guess so. | |
| Everybody, list a fun fact about yourself. | |
| This is so off-topic, but you have the best dough eyes ever. | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm not really. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's so sweet. | |
| That's funny you say that because I was literally sitting here like studying you trying to figure out how you do your eyeliner. | |
| Oh my god, really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Thank you. | |
| You guys can read this if you want. | |
| Poor wait for Brian. | |
| Who wants to read? | |
| Men are simple. | |
| Make them feel appreciated. | |
| And show them with physical and emotional support. | |
| Have good sex, cook the meals, make them feel like men. | |
| Have good conversation and be a good listener. | |
| Guys don't want to go down girls. | |
| That's true. | |
| I can't cook, though. | |
| I know so many women that have been so good to men and they get fucked over. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| I'd agree. | |
| Easy reading. | |
| Oh, me. | |
| No one can do whatever they want. | |
| We need boundaries, so it won't be a culture. | |
| Like hookup culture. | |
| We can stop hooking. | |
| Oh, we can stop hookup culture by at least trying to tell other women to stop increasing body count. | |
| It's a first step. | |
| Yo, Lucia, thank you for the 800,000 Indonesian. | |
| I don't know what root. | |
| Oh, I'm half Indonesian. | |
| Nice. | |
| That's really cool. | |
| I just went last year. | |
| Are you from Jakarta? | |
| Where are you from, Lucia? | |
| Jakarta, Java, Bali? | |
| Let us know. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Okay, so what did I miss while I was gone? | |
| We were talking about eyeliner. | |
| Yeah, we were talking about eyeliner. | |
| Well, I told everybody to list a fun fact and we started talking about eyeliner. | |
| I just told them to read super chats. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| There was nothing. | |
| I'm going to stop talking about eyeliner. | |
| Yeah, some guy. | |
| As soon as I leave, there's no organic conversation. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| We have. | |
| Did this one come through? | |
| I forgot where I left off. | |
| Yeah, this one. | |
| Yeah, you read that one. | |
| We did this one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Who wants to read this one? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I don't appreciate being called women. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Go for it. | |
| Go, you have better. | |
| I can't. | |
| I don't hear this. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't appreciate being called mean. | |
| I see all of you as beautiful women, even if I don't agree with you. | |
| As an average dude who's on the spectrum, hey, buddy, I've given up on finding a wife. | |
| Spectrum. | |
| Yeah, on the topic of like being neurotypical, and here's another advantage women have. | |
| Even a woman who's not neurotypical, bro, she could put up some bodies. | |
| But like a dude who's autistic or has Asperger's, good luck dating. | |
| I mean, not if you're a person. | |
| If you date someone, no, my partner's autistic. | |
| I'm not saying it's impossible. | |
| I think autistic guys are cute. | |
| And a lot of women do. | |
| I think that's another generalization. | |
| That's just not true. | |
| Like, I see it more and more on Twitter and stuff. | |
| Like, girls are simping for autistic dudes because they're genuine and they're quirky and they're cute. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| Most autistic men struggle severely when it comes to dating. | |
| Well, they struggle in in-person interactions in general. | |
| Yeah, it's not just specifically dating. | |
| Well, yes, but I guess the point I'm trying to make is that same difficulty is not going to present itself for women who are autistic. | |
| Okay. | |
| Who aren't. | |
| Or are. | |
| Who are. | |
| Or maybe I got my words mixed up. | |
| But again, like, there's all sorts of realms where you can like handicap, and I'm using like the golf term, not the disabled term, I guess. | |
| You could handicap a girl as much as you want, and she can still outperform a dude. | |
| Like, you would have to severely handicap a woman. | |
| Again, golf term, not, not like a chick in a wheelchair could fucking put up some bodies, bro. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm just saying, like, she could get some. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know? | |
| Shit. | |
| I know we got Brian. | |
| I think I know men in wheelchairs. | |
| A man in a wheelchair, he's going to struggle. | |
| Trust me. | |
| Trust me. | |
| Brian, I think a lot of us agreed with you that, yeah, sure, women do have an easier time getting laid down. | |
| Oh, she does. | |
| She didn't. | |
| So I'm kind of. | |
| Yeah, I was like the only one, I guess. | |
| Let's do this. | |
| Show of hands. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Who has an easy. | |
| Let me think about how I want to word this. | |
| Do you think it's overstated the degree to which men struggle to get women? | |
| Overstated? | |
| Overstated. | |
| Do you think it's exaggerated? | |
| I think it's a little, sure, because I think in some cases people get very self-pitchous. | |
| And yeah, sure, it's a self-pitchous. | |
| Is that a word? | |
| It is. | |
| And I think I'm pretty sure it is. | |
| Pitch-pitchous? | |
| Like, pitch-E-O-U-S? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Piteous. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, pitchous. | |
| I didn't know. | |
| Okay, yeah, that's a word. | |
| Cool. | |
| Anyways, I think. | |
| Hold on, let me check the pronunciation. | |
| Piteous. | |
| Piteous. | |
| It's pitchiest threw me off. | |
| Piteous. | |
| Oh, piteously. | |
| Why do you got to throw me off like that? | |
| Sorry, I was homeschooled, so I learned the pronunciation of most things by myself. | |
| So do you want to know really quick how I thought fatigue was pronounced until I was 14? | |
| Fatiga? | |
| Worse, a fatigue. | |
| I love it. | |
| Anyways, I think, yeah, sure, it's definitely harder for men to get laid. | |
| However, I think a lot of people tend to wallow in that fact instead of thinking, okay, how can I better myself? | |
| And, you know, like, yeah, even if it is harder, it doesn't mean you should fall into that trope and stop and abandon taking care of yourself and give up. | |
| Well, I agree with you that you shouldn't just wallow in self-pity and you should try to level up. | |
| However, I do think there are certain realities when it comes to the dating dynamics that make it incredibly frustrating for some men, especially men who are, for example, really unattractive physically or are short. | |
| These men have genuine concerns when it comes to dating. | |
| Are you saying like somebody who's short, like they can't change that? | |
| There's nothing they can do to be taller? | |
| Like people who can't, people who can't level up. | |
| You can't make yourself taller. | |
| No, I know, I'm asking, is that what you're saying? | |
| Like people who have no choice but to accept that they'll never be top tier because they can't change something like their height? | |
| Well, I mean, there's just certain realities to, for example, facial symmetry. | |
| you know there's just the way your face is like that you can't really change and i mean literally like a few i don't know what the term would be like Like a few cubic, I don't know what the fucking term is. | |
| Literally, fuck, what's the term? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like the smallest amount of bone and meat could like transform someone's face. | |
| But if you're lacking in that way, there's really not much you can do to make up for it, for example. | |
| Now, no matter who you are, whether you're already really attractive or not, you do need to try to level up as much as you can, but some men are going to struggle more than others. | |
| And we're seeing that play out in actuality, in real time, in the dating marketplace, where you basically have swaths of men that are basically invisible to women. | |
| But all of this doesn't have to, it's not about looks. | |
| It's about how men talk to women and lack thereof. | |
| I don't know why this didn't get read. | |
| I'm going to trigger this again. | |
| Go ahead with your point, though. | |
| I just think so much of this is not based on looks and whatnot. | |
| It's about how men just literally don't know how to talk to women. | |
| I mean, perhaps that's a component, but I mean, looks is a hard time. | |
| That's a component. | |
| That's a huge aspect of it. | |
| Do you have the nerve to do it, to actually know what to say, to not have some terrible pickup line, to do someone? | |
| And the burden of which falls almost exclusively on men. | |
| Sure, I think. | |
| So men and women do as well, but you can have a lot of people. | |
| You can do what? | |
| You can have... | |
| What? | |
| What? | |
| Women don't really initiate to the same degree that men do. | |
| Women don't have to. | |
| Okay, but. | |
| So you just said, oh, they don't know how to talk to guys, but like, I could probably, we could run through this experiment right now. | |
| Like. | |
| No, I'm saying there's an aspect of that. | |
| It's way worse. | |
| But most women don't have game. | |
| I would disagree. | |
| Most women don't. | |
| You don't have game and you don't need game. | |
| Women don't need game. | |
| You literally just show up. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I've definitely turned off more than one person just from being weird. | |
| My point is that it's not about looks. | |
| Like a guy on a lower end scale of love. | |
| Then why is he talking to you? | |
| If he's like intriguing you. | |
| Into the mic closer to the mic. | |
| Sorry, if he's intriguing you, that will outshine anything. | |
| Yeah, but the basis for both men and women, the first thing is physical attraction. | |
| That has to be there. | |
| If you have like dynamo game or Riz or whatever bullshit term, yeah, you can make up for your lack of looks. | |
| If you have status and you have wealth, you can make up for your lack of looks to some degree. | |
| If you're meeting someone at a bar, like everything is on the line of what you're going to say to them. | |
| That's all. | |
| Also, your physical appearance. | |
| Fine, but if you're engaging in that person in the way that is intriguing the woman, that says a lot more. | |
| Well, I mean, people can get over how you look and they can grow to love you and accept. | |
| Then why is it that women only swipe? | |
| Like a couple of you answered this question. | |
| Most of you said, oh, I only find like 10, 15% of the dudes on dating apps attractive. | |
| And the data from the dating apps themselves say that women swipe on like, they swipe no on the vast majority of men. | |
| So if it really wasn't about looks, then why is it the case that women on dating apps where most people meet seem to care quite a bit about physical appearance? | |
| I think everyone cares quite a bit, and I'm— Doesn't that contradict your point, then? | |
| No, I'm just saying, I think, I mean, I'm a little bit on the opposite side, where I tend to date down, if anything. | |
| Jeffrey Wolf donated $100. | |
| Don't fall into that trope. | |
| Red-haired girl, you mean like the feminist victimhood tropes you've been throwing out all night? | |
| You want to kiss me so bad. | |
| Come play Mario Kart with me. | |
| You'll get creamed, trust. | |
| Creamed? | |
| What? | |
| Huram! | |
| Oh, Mario. | |
| Okay. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I just think if more men who were not in the top tier knew how to speak to women more so, their looks wouldn't matter as much. | |
| And women are able and willing to adapt to what their normal. | |
| You're too far from the mic. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Women are able to adapt their normal standards of what they think is attractive based on how attractive someone is speaking to them. | |
| So basically have game issues. | |
| And I know this because it happened to me. | |
| But I think most women don't care about looks anyways. | |
| Like I was reading this. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I was reading this book and they said that most women, they're seduced by words and men are seduced by physical appearance. | |
| I agree that women are seduced by words, but it is initiated by physical attraction. | |
| The physical attractive, like let's say, but why are women not even care about this conversation? | |
| I don't care about looks though. | |
| Oh no. | |
| No, y'all shouldn't have to be a little bit more. | |
| Not yet. | |
| Yo, when you date a guy shorter than you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, I've gone on a date with a guy. | |
| Well, shorter than me, I'm short. | |
| I'm only 5'3, so I don't mean many men 5'3. | |
| But let's say you did. | |
| Would you be attracted to him? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know if I would be attracted to him, but I would not stop that from giving, But you care about looks. | |
| No, because I don't stop that from, like, me giving somebody a chance. | |
| Like, even if I'm not, like... | |
| You would date someone you're not attracted to? | |
| Yeah, I have. | |
| But just because I gave them a chance to actually get to know him, and I actually like, I wasn't initially attracted to this person. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| I gave them a chance. | |
| You said you had one long-term relationship. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How tall was he? | |
| Oh, he's like 6'1 or something. | |
| That's convenient. | |
| The one guy you did have a long-term relationship happens to be three feet above diameter. | |
| So girls say this all the time, but then I ask, well, what is of all the men you've dated, they're like, oh, 6'3, 6'4. | |
| Okay, I like guys that are, I do like guys. | |
| I would date a short guy, but all my boyfriends have been 6'5. | |
| I wouldn't stop that from giving someone a, I wouldn't let that stop me from giving somebody a chance. | |
| Real. | |
| Like, I wouldn't. | |
| I think women actually care way more about looks than men. | |
| Hot take of the night. | |
| How about that? | |
| I disagree. | |
| Well, depends on what you're talking about. | |
| If you're talking about like long term, men would care about looks more, but short term, I don't think so. | |
| I also think though dating apps nowadays make it focused on poster checks. | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah, into the money. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I think nowadays dating apps make it really focused on looks. | |
| Because it's like you're putting up pictures. | |
| You could write whatever caption you want to write. | |
| Dating apps are extremely vapid. | |
| It relies solely on looks, and looks can be manipulated on photos. | |
| Yeah, totally. | |
| Well, like Avery. | |
| If something's not working for you, maybe try something different. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| Are you going to say my physical appearance as well? | |
| Like I could get surgery or something like that. | |
| I was gonna say makeup also does that okay let me make makeup is the most accepted lie in society I'm just as cute without makeup. | |
| Same. | |
| I have pictures on my Instagram with no makeup on. | |
| A lot of people don't even know if I'm not sure if I'm going to get it. | |
| Okay, I need to get these because they didn't come. | |
| By the way, sorry for, I'm about to re-trigger it. | |
| I don't know why they didn't come through as TTS. | |
| I'm about to re-trigger these. | |
| Okay, so I'm waiting for it to pass. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Whoops. | |
| Mrs. Unders call in $100. | |
| If our men put more of their time and money into improving themselves than spending it watching Slashoff and playing video games, they get the high-value females they are looking for. | |
| Yeah, but men are checking out of the dating marketplace because it's just the, what's the saying? | |
| It's the juice isn't worth the squeeze, I guess. | |
| Ew. | |
| Foul. | |
| That was worse than me saying creamed. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| literally it's just like men are like shit i have to do all this work i have to like for certain women if you're it depends on what type of women you're going after Like, I think it's a- It's called ho-flation. | |
| Well, it's coming from the whole woke feminist movement, I think, too. | |
| But what is the so-called work that you're describing? | |
| What is all this work that they have to do to date? | |
| Men, overwhelmingly, when it comes to courtship, do the heavy lifting. | |
| Men, I don't know if you're familiar with it. | |
| I've said this before. | |
| There's a video game term called carrying. | |
| So in the video game, when you're carrying somebody, they suck at the video game. | |
| You're presumably good at the video game, or at least you know what you're doing, and you're carrying them to the win, to the victory. | |
| So that's how a lot of men feel when it comes to dating. | |
| I feel like a lot of women feel similarly. | |
| That they're the ones having to withhold these conversations long. | |
| Women don't know what? | |
| I'm sorry, you interrupt. | |
| You first. | |
| Okay. | |
| The guy has to initiate. | |
| Point blank, period. | |
| Most men have to initiate. | |
| If they don't, they're not getting a DM. | |
| They're not. | |
| They're not getting anything. | |
| Okay. | |
| May I ask the panel a question as well? | |
| Well, let me just add to that and then you can ask. | |
| So the burden of initiative is on men. | |
| At almost every single step along the way, generally speaking, are there some women that approach guys? | |
| Sure. | |
| Are there some women that go for the first kiss? | |
| Sure. | |
| Are there some women that will carry the conversation and try to set up a date and plan it and meet me here? | |
| I'll do this. | |
| Are there some women that pay for dates? | |
| Sure. | |
| However, it's not the majority. | |
| So we have to look at what's happening generally speaking. | |
| So as a guy, typically the burden is on you to, let's say, it's on a dating app. | |
| You're going to have to maybe send the match. | |
| You're going to have to send the first message. | |
| You're going to have to carry the conversation there. | |
| You're going to have to ask for the number. | |
| You're going to have to plan the date, set up the date, pay for the date, and then move things forward physically. | |
| So there's all kinds of logistical things. | |
| Okay, do we, how am I going to try to get her back to my place? | |
| Okay, how do I close the physical distance? | |
| How do I go for the first kiss? | |
| Most women don't initiate first kisses. | |
| Some do, but I'm assuming most of you, your experience is the guy goes for the kiss first. | |
| No. | |
| And that's where I was going to pose a question to the group. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sure. | |
| Just in general, how many of you guys have initiated dates or intimacy with a partner and been that person? | |
| That's not a good question. | |
| The question should be: more often than not, who is initiating? | |
| It doesn't matter if once you saw some really hot dude and you asked him out on a date. | |
| The question is, more often than not, of your relationship and dating experience, have you initiated? | |
| And for most women, the answer is no. | |
| Yeah, mine would be no. | |
| Here, we'll go around the table. | |
| Here, let's start over here. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Wait, what was the question? | |
| Like, of all the times you've been on a date, you've hooked up with a guy, you've been in a relationship, like who initiated majority. | |
| You guys say into the mic, please. | |
| I would say, relationship-wise, I have initiated most of them. | |
| Yes, okay. | |
| Okay, most women will initiate the relationship conversation. | |
| I'm talking about the initial stages of courtship. | |
| Yeah, getting into the relationship, the relationships, the initial, I'd say I definitely was the one to go up to the person or pursue them. | |
| Pursue them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you went for the first kiss. | |
| Yeah, I did. | |
| I don't believe that. | |
| In one of my relationships. | |
| In one of the relationships. | |
| You're not going to believe us no matter what we say, so I don't see a point in answering this. | |
| So your perspective has been thoroughly ingrained into yourself. | |
| No, this is just the reality. | |
| This is just the reality of the world. | |
| Why are you asking us if you're just going to call bullshit? | |
| I do think men are pursuing. | |
| It's ludicrous to me. | |
| And women. | |
| I agree with what you're saying. | |
| But I also agree with that. | |
| It's absurd to say that generally speaking, like, for example, let's take the first kiss, for example. | |
| That's something that the man initiates. | |
| I agree with what you're saying. | |
| Like, most of the time, it's the men. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| Like, for you, I mean, maybe you guys are outliers on this, but like most men's experience, most women's experiences, the guy initiates, for example, the first kiss. | |
| But is that actually a lot of work? | |
| Like, you said that's a lot of work. | |
| Is that a lot of work? | |
| like talking to a girl and getting her number and taking her on a date or initiating the date. | |
| It's like, yeah, I would say so. | |
| Oh. | |
| Because we face the burden of rejection. | |
| It's a very privileged position to say, oh, is it a lot of work? | |
| Well, we're the ones that are putting ourselves out there to be rejected. | |
| And throughout the course of the initial stages of dating, there are like dozens of potential points of rejection that men face from approaching you to asking for your number, asking for a date, setting up the date, dealing with flaking, okay, moving things forward. | |
| So, do you want to go back to my place now? | |
| Not really. | |
| Going for the kiss. | |
| If you want to move things forward from there, taking the top off, whatever, you know, I'm sure your imagination can figure out the rest. | |
| If you think about it. | |
| Have you ever turned down the guy for sex? | |
| Me? | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, that's a point of rejection. | |
| Yeah, but I mean, life goes on. | |
| Yeah, it's not a big deal, but I'm just saying, like, the burden falls on men. | |
| And a lot of men struggle to navigate these dozens of potential points where men can be rejected. | |
| I don't even think I can learn to navigate it better. | |
| I mean, through practice. | |
| Okay. | |
| Trial and error, I suppose, but I don't object to women taking on some of the burden on this front. | |
| Okay, wait. | |
| But women don't, and they don't need to because they can just find a guy who will. | |
| Well, they do, just not the majority. | |
| Right? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| You said women don't take on the burden, but these girls are saying that they have done that. | |
| So it does happen, just you're just not likely, right? | |
| Generally speaking, I would say most women don't initiate. | |
| But do you think it's impossible for them to? | |
| No, of course not. | |
| Women have initiated with me. | |
| Although it's rare. | |
| Did you reject them? | |
| I was about to ask. | |
| Have you ever rejected somebody? | |
| Not as frequently as I've been rejected. | |
| Okay, but yeah, I've rejected. | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I think everybody needs to learn to navigate rejection. | |
| If you can't handle rejection, then that's a personal issue. | |
| Women don't really need to, though. | |
| Like, you can move. | |
| As a woman, if you want, you can just sit back and let guys come to you. | |
| You don't necessarily have to navigate rejection because you can pick amongst the men or deal with the men that will take all the initiative. | |
| Whereas men, most men don't have that option. | |
| Maybe really like attractive guys can do that, but most men do not have the option to, let me just sit back, let me just go to a bar and just wait for a girl to come up to me. | |
| 99 times out of 100 as a dude, like say an average dude, if you go out to a bar or a nightclub and you just stand there at the bar, ain't no chick talking to you the entire night. | |
| So what's the point you're trying to make here? | |
| Should we feel sorry? | |
| Like what do we do about that? | |
| Well, we're talking about whether dating and relationships and sex is easier for women to attain. | |
| So point made, it's easier for women, but who fixes that? | |
| What is there to be done about that? | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I don't really have a solution to that. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm just acknowledging the reality of the dating landscape. | |
| I think what you're getting at is that it's making men not want to date anymore. | |
| And that's because they're tired of giving effort, you think? | |
| Well, I hear you, but I feel like that's like a moving target. | |
| Again, I stated that the woke feminist culture, I think, is making it harder for men and confusing men and not understanding where, how, how to approach women nowadays. | |
| I mean, I feel that in like girl friendships with women. | |
| Like, it's really hard for me to get on the same level with the younger generation. | |
| Oh, I was just asking if Eric could. | |
| Find it hard to connect with other women your age? | |
| No, women, younger than me. | |
| Younger than you. | |
| Like, like new culture that I'm talking about. | |
| Do you think that's like a generational thing? | |
| Kind of, but I also think it's just like politics and just how things are now. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like, woke culture and things that have just sprung up with the last like 10 years. | |
| Define woke culture. | |
| Like, what about a woman that you met who was younger than you? | |
| What about her would signal woke? | |
| I can't connect with her. | |
| Well, I think it's a lot with the feminist movement as well, and just feeling superior over, like, I forget the woman's name that was here, but like thinking like she deserves more because she's a woman, and I just don't agree with that. | |
| But she's not younger, she's 32. | |
| So I don't think that's a good idea. | |
| So that's what I'm saying. | |
| I did say the feminist movement. | |
| Okay. | |
| Not everything is wonderful. | |
| I understand what you're saying. | |
| Because I feel like a lot of women I talk to nowadays, they always say, like, oh, I hate men. | |
| Or like, they put down like they, like, there's this phrase, like, toxic, toxic masculinity. | |
| Yeah, I don't agree with that at all. | |
| I don't agree with that. | |
| I think it is unfair to say you hate men. | |
| No, I'm saying that. | |
| No, I know. | |
| I'm agreeing with you. | |
| I'm saying it is unfair to say you hate men because like, as you guys already know, I think it's unfair to generalize. | |
| And I hate men as generalizing like half of the planet. | |
| So that's yeah, I wouldn't say that either. | |
| But so many women are. | |
| Adam Morris donated $100. | |
| I'm not trying to get laid. | |
| I'm trying to get married. | |
| I want a wife, not a buddy. | |
| As someone who has experienced sexual abuse, I don't look for who I can sleep with. | |
| I look for someone I can trust and invest in. | |
| Yo, Adam Morris, thank you for the 100 men. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Okay, let me get through some of these soup chats here. | |
| So we have this one? | |
| Yeah, we did. | |
| Avery, can you read this one? | |
| This podcast is controversial because Brian speaks the truth and some people find the truth offensive. | |
| Yo, Ty Collin, the bygone, thank you for the 50 men. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Keep going, Avery. | |
| There's a... | |
| Oh, there's a... | |
| Ah. | |
| Jeffrey Wolf donated $100. | |
| Poflation, the concept of men having to work 20x harder than their grandfathers did for women 20x worse than what their grandmothers were. | |
| Contemplate that. | |
| Why would we want to put in the traditional work when the modern woman is so non-traditional? | |
| Word? | |
| Find a traditional woman. | |
| Have fun. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think, like, back in the day is like romanticized a lot. | |
| I don't think it was as perfect as everyone tries to make it seem like. | |
| I'm sure there were women that were having sex before marriage. | |
| They were just better at hiding it. | |
| Look, I think a lot of guys try to do when it comes to the hoeflation thing. | |
| A lot of guys try to do the right thing. | |
| You know, they try to be romantic and do the flowers and pay for the date and take a girl out on dates. | |
| And then, but they don't, that's not rewarded, really. | |
| Like, women fucking clown on dudes who do that shit. | |
| Like, they honestly lose respect. | |
| And then that same girl is going to just go hook up with some dude who never had to do any of those things, never paid for a date. | |
| So guys are like realizing, hey, there's two standards here. | |
| So guys are checking out. | |
| I mean, I don't agree with that. | |
| I appreciate that stuff, and I never made anyone feel unappreciated for doing those things or felt like... | |
| Yeah, I think that also comes to, like, your choosing to date as well as a guy. | |
| Like more so women who act that way. | |
| And then there's also women who don't and actually appreciate it. | |
| Sure, there are some women that I suppose appreciate it, but there's a lot of women out there who will maybe claim that they want traditional courtship. | |
| However, if you look at their behavior, you know, they are like they'll have two different standards. | |
| So they'll accept that from the one guy, and then they will, what's it called? | |
| They'll just like go over to that hot dude's place, screw him. | |
| He never had to pay for a date. | |
| However, they'll have a different standard for another guy over here who you got to take me on three dates. | |
| I don't, I don't know. | |
| And pay for all my shit. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't do that. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me get through the rest of these super chats. | |
| Fear Maddox. | |
| Thank you for the 50. | |
| Avery, if you can go ahead and read it. | |
| Hey, Brian, love your show. | |
| Interesting. | |
| I'm a virgin. | |
| Understand the body count double standards. | |
| But I wait until marriage because I love to see a purpose. | |
| Guys can say no to sex as well. | |
| I'm an average guy. | |
| We're the ones on the side watching y'all suffer. | |
| Word? | |
| Hey, Fear Maddox, thank you for the 50, man. | |
| Really appreciate it. | |
| Good luck with the waiting. | |
| All right, we have Jeffrey Wolf. | |
| Thank you for the 50. | |
| Wait, learn these girls to the following body count paternity, lowered it. | |
| Oh, Avery, do you want to read this? | |
| Brian, learn these girls to the following. | |
| Body count, paternity, lowered STD risk, greater ability to parabond, and finally the worst of all. | |
| Micro. | |
| Chimerism. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So this kind of just ties back into our body count discussion. | |
| The microchimerism, I read a study that apparently, and this could be bogus, if a guy has, if you've had sex with a guy, and I think it's if he blasts inside of you, let's say, you actually, like, I'm not going to say it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You retain, like, his DNA. | |
| For a duration of time, you do retain. | |
| Like, how long? | |
| Well, how else am I going to clone him? | |
| Exactly. | |
| All right. | |
| Yo, Lemon, thank you for the 100 man. | |
| Avery, go ahead. | |
| You've got a lovely speaking voice. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| The reason why body count matters to most men is simple. | |
| If you've given away the most intimate part of yourself to a lot of men, then your intimacy is not worth all that much. | |
| If an entire basketball roster of men have slept with you, then your intimacy is worth nothing. | |
| Why do men always say they want these like good women or like virgin women, but they give attention to women who are not like that all the time? | |
| Like I feel like in this day of like social media, most women that get attention are not traditional. | |
| So why be traditional if they're the ones getting all the attention? | |
| That's not really true. | |
| That's what I see. | |
| I mean, social media, like look at the girls who are popular on social media. | |
| It's not girls that are covered and like being virtuous. | |
| It's women who are showing their body and doing what they want to do. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But that's getting attention. | |
| That's common. | |
| So men want perhaps what is uncommon, which is not spreading your butt cheeks on Instagram. | |
| But how is that? | |
| They follow that girl. | |
| Yeah, they're liking her pictures. | |
| They're supporting her. | |
| Yeah, there's a bunch of simps for sure doing following chicks. | |
| I feel like every guy I see these days opens their phone and their socials in front of me and it's just like, yeah. | |
| That's what they like. | |
| That's what they really want. | |
| Well, men are visual creatures and men, I think, certainly have a higher sex drive than women. | |
| So you're excusing it? | |
| What do you excuse? | |
| Are you saying it's fine that all these men like they have the gall to complain about these things, but then their entire timeline is just like various cheeks? | |
| Like that's fine because they're visual creatures? | |
| Or do you think they should have some self-control? | |
| Why should women, as the gatekeepers of sex, be the ones with the self-control when men can't even get ethos off of their timeline? | |
| I'm not really following the. | |
| You're saying men are visual creatures, so that's why their socials are so full of ass and titties, but like why does being a visual creature excuse virtual promiscuity then? | |
| If that's like not okay for a woman to be posting and showing off and doing, then why is it okay for men to be? | |
| Because so many men follow these. | |
| No, I'm not asking why they follow them. | |
| I know why they follow them. | |
| Ass and titties are pretty fucking sweet. | |
| But I'm asking like, why is it okay to justify it? | |
| Then by your viewpoints, you should find it disgusting. | |
| If you find promiscuity disgusting, you should be sickened by a guy's phone who's full of ass and titties. | |
| Well, promiscuity and consume. | |
| I mean, I personally think porn is, for example, porn's not great. | |
| I don't think, me personally, I follow one account on my personal Instagram, which is my whatever Instagram. | |
| So I'm not, I don't follow chicks on Instagram. | |
| I'm not liking their fucking bullshit pictures. | |
| I'm not saying you think that would be an enigma against the majority. | |
| Sure. | |
| Yeah, there's a ton of sims out there. | |
| But my recommendation to men is don't be following these chicks on Instagram. | |
| Don't follow chicks on Instagram. | |
| So you agree that they should have some self-control? | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Don't be simping over these chicks that wouldn't give you the time of day in public. | |
| In person, I mean. | |
| Sorry, I got a headache, guys. | |
| I'm getting a little fucking tired. | |
| Okay, let me continue with the soup chats. | |
| Go ahead, Avery. | |
| Ladies, what is your opinion on Brian not wanting to go down on girls ever? | |
| In my opinion, what comes next is serious when she's already. | |
| Is that like a back? | |
| You just lost all your riz points, my dude. | |
| I'm out. | |
| You should do the harangue sound. | |
| A win is a win. | |
| What? | |
| A win is a win. | |
| What? | |
| You're like DJ Khaled. | |
| I was just going to say that. | |
| DJ Khaled said that. | |
| Are you afraid of a little pussy? | |
| Oh, you're afraid of a little pussy. | |
| Do you want your dick sucked? | |
| Yeah, I enjoy that. | |
| All right, equal. | |
| But you're not going to return the favor? | |
| Equal sucks. | |
| I mean, it's just like, I don't really enjoy doing that. | |
| That sucks. | |
| What if somebody, like, so you would expect a girl, what if a girl didn't want to go down on me? | |
| I don't expect a girl. | |
| Like, if a girl didn't want to go down on me, that's. | |
| But in a relationship, I'm saying if you were in a relationship with somebody. | |
| What about it? | |
| Would you, if she wanted that from you, would you say no? | |
| And what if she didn't want to return the favor if you didn't? | |
| Well, I just don't do that. | |
| So what do you mean? | |
| Is there a reason you don't do that? | |
| Is there a reason? | |
| Do you think it emasculates you to please a woman? | |
| I mean, you're making some assumptions there. | |
| I'm asking, do you? | |
| No, I don't think it's emasculating, but people are entitled to having sexual boundaries. | |
| just asking why in the same way that a woman if she didn't want it's so funny like men are really just not allowed to have preferences standards and boundaries if Neither a woman. | |
| If a girl doesn't get a bunch of people, if a girl needs to stay in it like you don't like oral sex, that's one thing. | |
| If a girl, you're insane, then you'll get your job. | |
| That's not true. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| You can have a different standard on this. | |
| So you can, I can say, yes, I enjoy oral sex. | |
| However, I don't enjoy giving oral sex. | |
| I don't think that makes you wrong. | |
| I'm not saying it makes you wrong. | |
| I'm saying what if you were in a relationship with somebody who was happy to go down on you, but as soon as she realized you wouldn't return the favor, she rescinded her offer. | |
| How would that make you feel? | |
| I think that would be. | |
| I would understand it. | |
| I would understand why. | |
| I don't think it has to be a vindictive tit-for-tat thing. | |
| You know, people are entitled to have varying preferences. | |
| Does female pleasure get you off? | |
| It does, and there's other ways to make, to give a girl pleasure. | |
| Hands, toys. | |
| What if that is what gives her pleasure? | |
| And she deliberately asks her. | |
| It probably wouldn't be long-term compatible. | |
| Well, that's not what I'm saying, even if it was a one-night stand. | |
| Well, definitely don't go down on someone on a one-night stand. | |
| What are you crazy about? | |
| Okay, okay. | |
| Are you crazy? | |
| Hey. | |
| Oh, my gosh. | |
| Bro, you can't go down on someone else. | |
| I wouldn't suck a guy's dick on the first time if I was having a one-night stand. | |
| Bruv, I, guys, don't go down on chicks on a one-night stand. | |
| Hello? | |
| Viewers, this has been a good idea. | |
| I'm not. | |
| I don't understand how that's different than having sex. | |
| I don't get it. | |
| Well, I mean, it's really not. | |
| You're making it such a big difference. | |
| It's like pleasure is pleasure. | |
| It's all the same. | |
| In some ways, oral sex is more intimate than sex. | |
| Yeah, maybe, yeah. | |
| I actually feel that way. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I think oral sex is more intimate. | |
| I agree with that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, like, I don't want to see your eyeballs right there all the time unless I've been with you multiple times. | |
| I mean, I would say the bare minimum, the bare minimum, if you are as a guy going to do that, you need to be in a monogamous, committed relationship with a girl. | |
| So that, I mean, that should be your base standard, I think. | |
| But, bro, okay, we've established that women, some, excuse me, that there's a hookup culture. | |
| In a one-night stand, you have no guarantee that they didn't sleep with someone earlier that day. | |
| They didn't sleep with someone yesterday. | |
| It would make me very uncomfortable to sleep with, go down on a girl, or even kiss a girl who fucked a guy the night before. | |
| I am a monogamous individual. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I find it, again, disgusting if I were to sleep with the girl who fucked a guy the night before. | |
| Women can feel the same way. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sure. | |
| for a one night stand that's why I don't recommend like as a dude going down on a girl and the difference I guess the difference is because I thought you meant in general you'll never go down on anybody Like a long time ago. | |
| Yeah, that too. | |
| I don't do that. | |
| L. | |
| It's so funny. | |
| Like, the amount of shit, if there was a table of guys saying, girls who don't suck dick, it's fucking L, you guys would be like, bro, you guys are. | |
| Because guys do say that actually quite often. | |
| Yeah, I hear it a lot, actually. | |
| Actually, women are way more vicious when it comes to this shit than men are. | |
| Yeah, I disagree, but that's fine. | |
| You can think what you want. | |
| I feel like if men were saying that, I would say fair. | |
| That's fair. | |
| I would say that is fair. | |
| I like pleasuring my partner. | |
| But, you know, you're right. | |
| Everyone does have their boundaries. | |
| I feel like most women would find it objectionable for be like, if guys were like, oh, if she doesn't suck dick, there's something wrong with her. | |
| She's not a, I don't know what the fucking term is, but like a lot of women be like, wow, that's pretty crass. | |
| But all of you at this table like we're coiled because I have a sexual boundary. | |
| If a woman had a sexual boundary that says, look, I don't feel comfortable sucking dick. | |
| I think it's a good thing. | |
| I don't think any of you would be like, huh, what the fuck is wrong with you, L? | |
| I think it's fine to have a boundary, but I also think that's a good thing. | |
| It's perfectly acceptable for men and women to have sexual boundaries. | |
| A lot of men expect women to put out. | |
| And if we, like, you really can't win if you're not putting out, you're prude. | |
| And if you do put out, you're a whore. | |
| So you can't win either way. | |
| So I do hear it a lot. | |
| You're going to say that it's not true, but I do hear a lot of talks about, literally there are memes like all over the Discord, everywhere. | |
| Like, if she doesn't suck dick, if she doesn't do this, if she doesn't put out, she's not worth your time. | |
| Like, why are you chasing after somebody who won't even get you off? | |
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | |
| And it's like, we just have to accept that. | |
| You know, they're going to expect us to pleasure them. | |
| So I expect pleasure. | |
| Women have the exact same expectation. | |
| Sure, and that's fine. | |
| That's why I'll recoil if I hear you say you don't eat pussy. | |
| Just as I'm sure if a girl is proudly saying she doesn't suck dick, men would recoil in the same way because initially it's like, oh, interesting. | |
| Oh, you don't do that. | |
| Well, I'm not proudly saying it. | |
| It just happens to be the case. | |
| Even if you're not proudly saying it, the fact that you don't, it's going to garner a response because it's interesting. | |
| It's like, okay, interesting. | |
| You don't hear that. | |
| If a girl told me and she was just like, hey, Brian, I'm just, I don't really enjoy giving moral sex. | |
| It's just not something I really enjoy doing. | |
| Whether that be a potential future partner or just a casual conversation like the one we're having, I'm not going to be like, the fuck is wrong with you. | |
| Okay, well, I'm glad you wouldn't do it. | |
| Which is the trick of it. | |
| I disagree. | |
| Maybe in online spaces, but like in an in-person conversation, like most guys aren't going to be like in mixed company. | |
| Most guys aren't going to be like, you don't suck dick. | |
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | |
| Have you ever been to a single frat party? | |
| Like, have you been around? | |
| Have you been around? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| I don't really know because I don't party. | |
| Have you been around like college-aged men? | |
| Like they'll talk, they talk about this stuff openly and frequently. | |
| Women more so than men on this, actually. | |
| I disagree with that, actually. | |
| Here's how I, well, the point. | |
| Okay. | |
| After you hook up with a guy, do you share with your girlfriends the details of your first intimate encounter with a new guy? | |
| Not every single time. | |
| No. | |
| Guys don't talk about that shit. | |
| That's why. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| Guys really aren't saying girls will share with their girlfriends size of a guy's dick. | |
| Sure, an encounter, but I'm saying guys aren't talking about the menu. | |
| Men will frequently talk about like anyone here have an Audi, by the way. | |
| Anyone have an Audi? | |
| Are we talking about belly buttons? | |
| No, I'm talking about labia. | |
| No, I don't. | |
| Aren't they all out? | |
| I don't understand. | |
| No, there's no. | |
| No, there's anything about it. | |
| Wait, wait. | |
| I don't know. | |
| No. | |
| All right, moving on. | |
| Can we get some fun? | |
| I don't even know what that means. | |
| Go ahead, Avery. | |
| Red-haired girl letting people do what they want is complete anarchy. | |
| Society is defined by concrete rules and values. | |
| Be promiscuous and promote it. | |
| It will slowly break down society. | |
| The Roman Empire fell from within due to similar things you promote dysfunction. | |
| Duly noted, I'll keep doing exactly what I'm doing. | |
| No boo, no boo naga. | |
| Thank you for the 100 man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Go ahead, Avery. | |
| I'm a little Aspergery, and I'm a 43-year-old, successful and fit. | |
| And I can't count how many times I've been told I'll make some girl really happy someday. | |
| Okay, cheers. | |
| I'll pour one out. | |
| Average guys are invisible to women. | |
| We go through an astronomical amount of rejection just to get a chance at a date. | |
| I checked out 10 years ago in my 20s and increasingly less interested in even trying. | |
| Get your game up. | |
| Yep. | |
| I mean, a lot of people are checking out of the dating marketplace. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Brian, for the love of God, please explain the difference between sexual attention and relationship attention. | |
| Men put women into two categories. | |
| These women are confusing the two. | |
| We will never wipe up the first. | |
| Yeah, so I mean, really quick, basically, you have two different categories. | |
| So when, and this kind of relates to high body count, a guy will hook up with a girl with a high body count. | |
| Me personally, I'd rather not. | |
| But there are guys who will disregard certain things like your promiscuity. | |
| He'll put you in the hookup category. | |
| And then, so there's sexual attention and then there's relationship. | |
| Women often confuse the two. | |
| Word. | |
| Sorry, Martin. | |
| I've got a bump and headache, so I'm like, I'm losing that. | |
| I'm going to wrap up soon. | |
| Cam from TMR Radio. | |
| Thank you for the 50. | |
| Go ahead, Avery. | |
| Ladies, men have two different categories: fun and wife. | |
| You all make this terrible conclusion that men are wifing these Insta304s. | |
| If your goal is to be a wife, don't follow the likes in this case. | |
| Based. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| They'll leave the wife or they'll cheat on the wife for the other one. | |
| Hannah, how about a cup of joe? | |
| I've actually not heard that one before. | |
| It's better than Hannah Joe Mama, seems to be the popular one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay, so let's see. | |
| Last thing, I want to bring it back. | |
| So again, you think it's easier for guys to get laid? | |
| Yes, then they make it seem. | |
| Is it easier for them to get laid than women? | |
| Listen, all I'm saying is that, listen, they have side chicks. | |
| So how is it so hard if they have side chicks? | |
| I don't understand. | |
| Like, I get what you're saying. | |
| I see the statistics. | |
| I know that it is easier for women to have sex with a guy. | |
| Like, I could probably just have sex with any guy I want to. | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| Maybe not the same for a man. | |
| But I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Oops. | |
| Okay. | |
| Here, let's do an experiment. | |
| Okay. | |
| How do I do this? | |
| Edie, after the show, would you like to hook up? | |
| No. | |
| 10,000 Night Stand? | |
| No. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| 10,000 Night Stand. | |
| Are you down starting tonight? | |
| 10,000 Night Stand. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| He's asking you. | |
| Are you down for a 10,000 night stand? | |
| Stay with him for like 10 days. | |
| Nights. | |
| Nights. | |
| Get it correct. | |
| No. | |
| Rip. | |
| RIP. | |
| RIP. | |
| Like one night stand. | |
| No, no, no, 10,000 night stand. | |
| Are you talking about a relationship? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes. | |
| Will you be my girlfriend? | |
| No, I want to get to know you first. | |
| I know we just met, but like 10,000 night stands. | |
| I'm sorry, Avery, I'm cheating on you. | |
| I'd say that. | |
| I'm not. | |
| Did I just. | |
| I'd like to get to know you more. | |
| And then we'll see if that's the answer to your question that you want. | |
| Okay, but not down for tonight, though. | |
| I think you're on a date. | |
| Are you down for a date? | |
| You can reject me. | |
| It's okay. | |
| I'm down to hang out. | |
| You're down to kick it? | |
| That sounds like a yes. | |
| Is that a yes? | |
| That sounds like a yes. | |
| It seems a bit hesitant, but okay. | |
| Avery, after the show tonight, wife, would you like to hook up 10,000 night stand? | |
| You down? | |
| No, because I'm doing the three-date roll now, remember? | |
| Yeah, but it's. | |
| I get a pass, right? | |
| I'm your husband. | |
| You just know me. | |
| I'm confused. | |
| What about you? | |
| You down to hook up after the show? | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Into the mic. | |
| Oh. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I don't know what I'm even trying to prove here. | |
| I've got a fucking child. | |
| I'm delusional. | |
| I've got a fucking bumping headache. | |
| Not a fucking message. | |
| I'm the third choice. | |
| Can you give me a back massage or something? | |
| I'm fucking dying here. | |
| Okay. | |
| Kidding. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| Any final thoughts here before I wrap up the show? | |
| Are you asking us? | |
| Yeah, any final thoughts. | |
| If you want to play Mario Kart, hit me up. | |
| Mario Kar? | |
| I play online in the Japanese server, so good luck. | |
| Why do you play on the Japanese servers? | |
| Because they're more challenging. | |
| We're competitive. | |
| Oh. | |
| I had no idea. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| Anyone else? | |
| Final thought? | |
| To the people saying they were giving up, don't give up on dating. | |
| Love is out there and love is real. | |
| Don't give up. | |
| Like, you can find someone. | |
| Passport Pro. | |
| Oh, I needed that. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, your passports. | |
| Okay. | |
| Here, let me just send an asteroid. | |
| Just to end the show, I guess. | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| I got my neck's been fucking killing me. | |
| I've got a bumping headache. | |
| I kind of lost it there at the last hour of the show. | |
| Guys, actually, let's do Twitch really quick. | |
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| Twitch.tv slash whatever. | |
| Go give us a follow, guys. | |
| Thank you guys so much so much. | |
| Eric, pull up that last super chat. | |
| Redhead looks familiar. | |
| Wasn't she on FNF? | |
| Were you on FNF? | |
| What's that? | |
| What is that? | |
| I guess another podcast. | |
| Oh, this is my first podcast ever. | |
| Oh, nice. | |
| Cam from TMR Radio. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Go ahead, Avery. | |
| I have been married 15 years and have never cheated on my wife. | |
| Women statistically cheat more than men. | |
| Even if he did cheat in your hypothetical, who has the name, title, lifestyle, and kids? | |
| The wife is still winning over a hole. | |
| Well, shout out to you for not cheating. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| All right. | |
| Eric, hide that, please. | |
| Yo, Zoe, thank you for the 50, Brian. | |
| Keep up the great work. | |
| Enjoying your streams. | |
| Red is giving everyone the headache hanging in there. | |
| Your response. | |
| You're welcome. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay, guys, hit the like button on your way out, please. | |
| Thank you for tuning in tonight. | |
| You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show. | |
| Thank you to the panel. | |
| Really appreciate you guys. | |
| It was a good panel tonight. | |
| Thank you to all our chat mods. | |
| Thank you to Eric. | |
| Any women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever at BD underscore Atlas. | |
| My DMs are open if you're short or have a large labia. | |
| Okay, I don't know. | |
| Guys, I'm delusional. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| We'll be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific. | |
| And just a reminder, we are going to take a couple weeks off. | |
| But yeah, we'll be live again Tuesday, 7 p.m. Pacific. | |
| I have a good panel lined up. | |
| So we'll see you next time, guys. | |
| Have a good night. | |
| And yeah. | |
| Good night, guys. |