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March 23, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #65

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Anyways, without further ado, after that thoroughly long-winded introduction, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation.
Go ahead.
My name is Madison Vu.
I am 18 years old and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College, currently studying accounting.
Okay.
My name is Kelsey.
I'm 22.
I go to LCC in Eugene, Oregon, and I am a waitress, and I also just started a podcast.
What's the name of the podcast?
Chronicles of Craving.
It's kind of about addiction.
Any kind of addiction?
Sex addiction.
I'm a recovered sex addict.
Are you?
You're.
Yes.
Recovering sex addiction.
Okay, we'll talk about that in a bit.
What about you?
My name is Kaylin.
I am 23 years old.
I live in Santa Barbara, and I'm a sales and operations manager for corporate events.
Cool.
My name is Mick.
I'm 27 years old.
I live in Santa Barbara, and I'm an instrument dealer.
You deal instruments?
Yes.
Okay.
I don't know if I've ever heard that.
Like, you know, like on Reburb, Facebook Marketplace, I meet people, I buy stuff, I fix up like guitars, amplifiers, and then resell them for a little bit more and make a little on the side.
Sure.
What about you?
I'm Keely.
I'm 25, and I'm an adult entertainer, stripper/slash.
Sugar daddy, procurer.
All that, yeah.
All the good stuff.
Okay, what about you?
My name is Cassandra.
I'm 25 years old, and I work in hospitality.
My name is Monica.
I'm 24, and I'm a nanny.
I'm Vita.
I'm 22, and I sell employee benefits.
Hi, I'm Isabel.
I'm 25 years old, and I wear a ton of different hats for my job, but generally speaking, I'm a live streamer, an author, political commentator, and just overall content creator every day.
Okay, cool.
Rock and roll.
We have a full packed house tonight, so we got a good stream ahead of you all.
So we're going to go around the table on this.
What is your current relationship status?
So are you single, friends with benefits?
Are you in the talking stage?
Situationship, relationship, engaged, married, et cetera.
And what is your longest relationship that you've ever had?
Go ahead.
I'm currently very taken.
Very talking.
I'm very taken.
I'm going to marry the man that I'm with right now.
Really?
And you're 18?
Actually, I am 18.
That's true.
When you know, you know.
Let's go.
When you know, you know.
How long have you guys been dating?
We've only been dating almost seven months, so six and a half months.
But my longest relationship was probably 10 months.
Okay.
So, and you said this is, you know, this is your guy.
I know.
Did you say that about your previous 10-month relationship?
No, I did not.
Okay.
How old is he?
My current boyfriend, he's 21.
He's 21.
Okay.
You guys met in school, college?
On the beach in Santa Barbara.
You met on the beach?
Isla Vista Beach right here.
That's a movie waiting to be made.
Okay.
That's cool, though.
Cool.
Congrats.
Thank you.
Are you guys engaged or just planning on it?
You know what?
We should have him on and then he proposes to you on the show.
Oh, he would love to do that.
That would be cool.
I'd be more than willing to have my marriage proposal in this loved, this beautiful set.
Yeah, I'm sure that would be some wonderful memories.
Absolutely.
While we're talking about the nuances and frustrations of modern dating.
Okay.
What about you?
I am recently single.
I, like, so recent, I still live with my ex-boyfriend.
And.
Oh.
Sorry.
How newly single?
Probably like three weeks, I think.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why did he dump you?
I dumped him.
Why?
Yeah.
So we were friends for, like, from the time I was 18, and I'm 22.
Like four and a half, five years, something like that, and I just didn't see him as a boyfriend, like I think the reason why we were friends for so long was because there wasn't any chemistry there.
So I just figured it wasn't fair to him and yeah okay, and remind me how long had you guys been dating, because you said you were friends right he yeah, he was my longest relationship actually.
So like 10 months or something like that.
10 months yeah, okay.
Have you had a rebound since the breakup?
No, any other guys since the breakup?
No, I can't.
I mean that that would be a relapse for me, so I can't, okay.
So yeah, you mentioned earlier that you are a sex addict.
Yeah, recovering sex recovering is there like a?
You know how there's a, or?
Yeah, so I go to SLAA, which stands for SEX AND LOVE Addicts Anonymous okay, typically it's more women friendly.
I just obviously like.
Going to a mixed SAA meeting is like going to like an AA meeting in a bar.
I have tried it and guess what?
I relapsed.
So yeah, but you relapsed with someone who attended the sex addicts meeting who was also sex addict.
Is that pretty frequent occurring?
Yeah, I don't even know why they have mixed meetings.
It's like what why?
Even, it's interesting.
Yeah yeah, that would almost be like doing uh, like an alcoholics anonymous meeting in a bar.
Yeah yeah, it's just like.
Yeah, if you mix the, I can see that.
Yeah, well then, although I do suppose, like you could be buy, or in any case.
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Uh, so okay you're, you were previously in.
What's it SLA what?
What's the one you go to SLA?
And it's an all women's, oh sorry SLA, and it's an all women's like zoom meeting.
Okay, so you're.
So you're a sex addict.
Okay, so what?
What does that mean?
Um, it can look like a lot of different things for a lot of different people.
I'm i'm also a recovered drug addict, but sex was kind of like my um switch away from opiates.
So I, once I got clean off of opiates, it just kind of transformed itself.
I mean, it's always been a problem, but it really sorry.
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Hey, thank you so much for that super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
And you know what?
Maybe we'll talk about gamers later on.
Let me write that down.
We'll ask the girls about gamers later on in the show.
Thank you, man.
Okay, so wow, they really want to interrupt you on your sex addiction story.
So you said you were also addicted to opiates, correct?
Yeah.
Which ones?
Heroin and fentanyl.
Yeah.
I don't know if you can say that on it.
Sorry, I forgot if.
Yeah, whatever.
Okay.
It is.
It is.
That's fine.
It's whatever.
It happened.
Okay, so how long have you been clean on those?
I've been clean on those since I was like 18 and a half.
Okay.
After like my last OD, and it really scared me.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
And is it pretty common for people who have sex addiction to also have other kinds of addictions?
Yeah.
My mom's an alcoholic, so obviously it's genetic, but she kind of knows, has always known that I've had an addictive personality.
Yeah, so how did your sex addiction manifest?
It looked like a lot of different things.
I think it started with, can I say porn?
Boom.
Porn.
Oh, let's say adult content.
Okay.
Adult content.
Yeah.
Started with adult content when I was like nine, ten years old or something like that.
Yeah.
So, and I just, I kept getting addicted to it and I like could not stop watching it.
And then eventually it got to a point where like I was 19 and I got kicked out of my house because I was like bringing over six dudes a night.
Like it just was never enough.
Enough was never enough.
So yeah.
What?
Wait.
Six dudes a night?
For like a consecutive week, yeah.
Yeah.
Six times 30.
Wait.
Somewhere around there, yeah.
Hold on.
Six times six is 30.
Well, six times.
She said, wait, six times, well, I'm thinking a weekday, a week, Monday through Friday.
Weekends were my rally days.
What do you mean?
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay, my math needs some work here.
Oh, Eric, you're going to have to hide that.
I don't know.
My fucking Stream Deck's scuffed.
Okay, so.
Six dudes a night?
Like at the same time or like after the other?
Yeah, one after the other.
Yeah.
And how were you meeting these guys?
Usually dating apps.
I have like a hard time approaching men.
I usually just wait until they approach me.
Or I used to like to drink a lot too.
So I would go to the bar, drink, and hook up with guys.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you would sleep with six guys a night.
So like would you slot them in like 7 p.m., 8 p.m., 9 p.m., 10 p.m.?
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay.
And then I would even, oh, sorry.
No, go ahead.
I'd say I would even like have like my backup guys to where it was like if this guy didn't come tonight, then I have, then I would invite this guy.
And then if he did come, if the first guy did come, then I'd tell the other guy, oh, I'm busy, like I can't, you know, make it or whatever.
So that, like, did you have a spreadsheet?
Like an Excel spreadsheet?
Kind of, yeah.
I mean, I had to write, eventually, like, I had to write people's names down because it got like so insane.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what's the most amount of men you've hooked up with in a 24-hour period?
Probably like...
A little closer to that.
Oh, sorry.
Probably, I think six is like the most.
Six is the most.
Yeah.
But was that pretty regular to have six?
That wasn't the regular name.
No, that was just, okay.
Yeah, that was when I was like, I was like really depressed.
And when I'm depressed, like, I am going out.
Like, were you using production?
No.
No?
No.
Okay.
And you were meeting, you said most, almost all of these guys from Tinder or dating apps.
Tinder or Bumblebee.
I got kicked off.
I got perma-banned off Tinder.
They will not have me back.
Okay.
Maybe for the best.
Yeah, now it is.
Obviously.
Okay, so.
Do you.
I usually save this question for a little later on in the show, but do you have a sense of how many men you've slept with?
Yeah, it's not, it's honestly, it's not like 300 or anything.
It's like, it's like 136, I think.
136, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Which is a lot, but yeah.
Okay.
So did you.
I have like a million questions.
Yeah, no, it's a crazy thing.
Yeah, that's people like, what?
Yeah.
Okay.
And would you say that what's the most in like a week?
Because you said six in a day in 24 hours.
What about like a week?
Yeah, on average, it would probably be like if I wasn't like deep into it, like two to three times a week.
But I was also like acting out.
Like I would like flash my neighbors and stuff.
And like if I was just like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Okay.
Flashing the neighbors.
I feel like this could help people.
So I get like weird talking about it, but I feel like if I talk about it, that people.
Yeah.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
So, okay.
How much per week though?
Or sorry, what was the most in a week?
Probably like two to three.
Well, no, but you said there was six in the night.
Yeah, but on average, it was like two to three per week.
Two to two to three new guys hooking up.
Yeah, but like for a consecutive like one to two months, it was like.
But is there one week where there was just like you went on a tear and it was like 20 dudes?
Yeah.
Do you know how much the most in one week?
30, 20, 20, 30?
Not 20 to 30.
It's probably like 8 to 10.
Oh, okay.
8 to 10.
So that one, the six in the night, that was just.
You went hard.
Yeah.
You went hard though.
I went through.
Sure.
And then what about in the month?
What's the most in the month?
Most men you've hooked up with in a month?
Probably like, I don't know, like maybe like 20.
Yeah.
20.
Okay.
Got it.
And so you said you were meeting most of these men from dating apps.
What was your procedure?
Like, would you kind of make the move?
Because typically women don't need to make the move, but I mean, to put up six, to do six in the night, you're going to have to put in some initiative.
Yeah, yeah, I would.
And I like on average, I was getting rejected probably more than the average woman because I was like putting myself out there.
Sure.
But it's like being a woman, it's very easily accessible.
Sure.
Just looking at have sex.
So it was like I didn't really have to reach out most of the time.
Okay.
So during your peak, would you say that if you were so inclined, you could almost any given night, you could guarantee get a guy?
Yeah.
Like if you really wanted to, you could have sex with a new guy.
Yeah, especially if I went to the bar.
If you went to the bar.
Yeah.
For sure.
Okay.
And you're in a, you're, was this all in, you said you're from Oregon?
It was in Olympia.
So I moved because Washington.
Yeah.
You moved because why?
Because like I was like hooking up with like everybody in the area and then eventually like I literally like was out of control.
And then eventually my like my best friend, I think she's watching right now, but I was, like, I knew it was out of control when like I accidentally, like, I didn't know about it, but I hooked up with one of the guys she was talking to.
And she like told me about it, and I felt horrible.
And then it really, like, that was like my bottom, and it really hit me that it was like, this behavior is like out of control for me, and I need help.
So I went to rehab in Los Angeles.
Okay, did the guys know the guys that you were hooking up with, did they know that you were hooking up with a bunch of other dudes, or was it mostly one-night stands?
Some guys did.
So I used to, I don't know if I should say the restaurant that I worked at, I used to work at a sports bar in Olympia.
And I literally was such a hoe.
Like I literally would like sleep around with any new guy that walked in the door.
So like I made a reputation of myself there of like where it was like, dude, she's like crazy.
Yeah.
But most of the time, no, or they didn't care, you know?
Okay.
I might return to that a little bit later.
I want to let everyone have a chance to.
But thank you for sharing.
I mean, I appreciate your forthcomingness with all this.
And yeah, so we'll return to all that.
So I don't know if you recall the initial question, but what's your relationship status, single, talking stage, situationship, relationship, and your longest relationship?
I think I'm in a situationship.
You think you're in a situation?
so you you think what that is you that's just another step Not only are you in this situationship, you think you're in the situationship.
Okay, why don't you tell us a little bit about that?
So we've been dating for like maybe two months now, but he's like a little bit confusing and doesn't really know what he wants, but still wants to continue it, but didn't want a situationship, which not very clear.
And then we did break up at one point, and then we got back together the same day.
So I think I'm in a situationship.
Okay.
Yo, Eric, my pen is dead.
Can you look in the where it's under the island?
I think there's some other pens in there.
Sorry, boys.
Okay, so two-month situationship.
Yeah.
And what's your longest relationship you've ever been in?
Probably another situationship, and it was like 10 months under the age of the age.
Eric, like this one.
Like this one.
Okay.
So two-month situation.
Wait, I'm sorry.
I was trying to get the pen.
Can you repeat the last part?
My longest was probably like 10 months.
Relationship or situationship?
Situationship.
I've never been in an actual functioning relationship.
You've never called someone your boyfriend?
No.
Okay.
Have you ever had a guy who you called your boyfriend, but he didn't call you his girlfriend?
Not really.
I feel like we're all kind of on the same page.
If anything, it was probably that guy that was like the 10-month little stint.
I feel like I thought we were kind of close to dating there, but he was absolutely not there.
And then we broke up, but it's for the better.
Okay, so you're hooking up with your situationship.
Currently, yes.
Okay.
Because, well, I'm asking you, because the way I invited you on the show is I did the reverse finesse, procured you from a dating app, Hinge.
Very true.
So I assume then that your situationship is you're not monogamous?
Yes and no.
I feel like if I ever did actually see someone, I would definitely tell him.
I think I was getting really bored of this whole like back and forth.
Like, are we something?
Are we not something?
Like, all that.
And I was like, I'm not going to just sit here and wait for you to decide.
So have you brought up the conversation about, do you want more from him?
We've talked about it.
Hold on.
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All right.
Have you brought up this up with your situation?
We've talked about it a lot.
He just doesn't really know what he wants.
He's in nursing school right now, so I kind of want to give him time to develop his own things too.
How often do you guys hang out?
It's like at least once a week.
Once a week for about two months.
Yeah.
So would you say maybe you guys have only hung out like 10 times?
Yeah.
Ten-ish times?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So is he seeing other girls?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
But we've never really talked about it.
Okay.
Well, because you're on the dating apps.
Although, have you, while you've been seeing this guy, have there been other guys?
now it's just been honestly it kind of sucks because then I'm like okay well now I'm like people are still talking to me but it's like oh I still really like him So it's almost like you want more.
You want more.
Yeah.
But he doesn't.
Apparently not.
Or unsure.
Well, I'd say move it along, but okay.
So.
Okay, so two-month situationship.
And you said prior to that, you haven't had an official relationship, but there was a guy you were sort of seeing for 10 months.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
And then prior to those, have you kind of been, are you desirous of something more serious?
Or are you kind of like, eh, it's cool.
I'm down with the more situation.
It's fine.
Just I'm asking if it's, you're fine with the situationship or more casual stuff.
I definitely think I'm looking for like a little bit more.
I'm a person that I will give like everything to someone and it's hard when you're in a situationship or like just hooking up because it's obviously not reciprocated.
So I think I am looking for it.
I'm trying not to like force it.
But.
How do you, when you say you give everything, what do you mean?
Like I feel like I'd like, oh, I'd love to like cook for you or like hang out with you or like if I'm free, like we'll go like grab coffee together.
And it doesn't, it's definitely not like, I don't want to suffocate you.
Like I have my own things to do too.
But like I just feel like I'm a very giving person just in general.
Just kind of like.
And are you currently doing those things for your situationship?
The cooking?
Not like specifically for him, but if I like made cookies, I'd be like, oh, do you want to come pick one up?
Like I didn't make it specifically for him.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay.
So you two.
Yeah.
Yes.
I'm with her.
You're engaged to her.
Yes, we are engaged.
Closer to the mic.
And we do love each other.
And no, I'm not a cuck.
I do not enjoy watching her be with other men or any of that.
We were had $100 in our bank account when she started to do the work.
get a little closer to the mic if you can if you need you can hold it in your yeah it's a little little tough right here um No, I don't have low testosterone.
I've actually had my testosterone tested.
And I've read all the hate comments I watched when you were all, when everybody was going live.
I did see all the hate comments.
I did see what people are saying.
And I respect people's decisions.
most of the hate comments were from other men, not women.
And if you don't want to be with a girl that has an OnlyFans or has done porn or adult work, then don't be with that girl.
We were together for quite a bit of time before she did all that work, and I will be with her even after because I love her.
She's beautiful, and we're together.
And that's that.
So why don't we give it, there might be new people tuning in.
Why don't we give it a bit of context?
Keely, you've been on the past two shows.
Can you push that cup into the table, please?
So that cup right there.
So you guys are engaged.
Fiancé.
You guys have been dating for what, four years?
Five years?
Five years.
Okay.
So midway through your relationship, you started doing OnlyFans, correct?
Yeah.
And then stripping.
And then procuring sugar daddies and doing escorting or no?
No escorting?
No.
Just like stripping at the club.
Stripping.
On OnlyFans.
Adult content with other men.
Just to clarify.
For OnlyFans, if they have OnlyFans and they're into that.
Okay.
And then you also have like 10 sugar daddies?
Yeah, I have guys that will just text me and just spoil me and send me $100 or whatever.
Just take me to get like Louis Vuitton bags or whatever.
Sure.
Okay, so, but you're okay with it.
I am okay with it, yes.
I don't watch any of her porn.
I don't help her with a lot of this stuff.
It's just something that I'm very passive.
I don't want to know about it.
You know, if I had to be very involved in it, I probably would be a little disturbed because this is the woman that I do love and care for.
So yes, there is that aspect of it, but I don't get like, I don't think about it.
I don't let it keep me up at night.
It's just, you know, let her do what she does and make the money and come back because as long as she's not romantically involved with someone else, I don't view it as cheating.
It's the romance involved.
And eventually she does plan on retiring from it.
It's something we've had to do for quite a few years now to make money, but now we have goals in mind.
We are going to get a cabin up in the Smokies and we're going to have our own businesses and things that make profit.
So she doesn't have to do any of this stuff anymore.
It's just for profit.
And if some guys don't want to allow their woman to do that for profit, and I understand that.
I totally understand it.
But for me, when you're living in your car in one of the most expensive cities in America and you have $100 in your bank account and she says, you know, look, we're going to go hungry if we don't do something.
And you're like, I don't know what we're going to do.
And I've been trying to look for work and I've been applying at hundreds of jobs and I can't get a job and we need money.
And she says, hey, if I just go to the club and dance for a night, I'll make a couple hundred bucks.
And you say, okay, sure, go make a couple hundred bucks.
Because at first I didn't want her to do it.
I really didn't.
We both didn't want to do it.
I was really nervous.
Let's go into that.
So you said at first you didn't want her to do it.
Tell us what your initial instinct was.
My initial instinct was like, I'm really nervous.
I've never been to a strip club.
I didn't really watch a lot of porn and I didn't understand the sex industry.
I didn't know that there's good people in it, that you can be safe in a strip club, that they always felt like this unknown territory.
So I'm like, I don't know if I want to go to the valley and some part of sketchy part of town and let you dance for the night.
I don't know who's going to be there or how it's going to be.
But eventually, you know, you just say, look, we're desperate for money.
Let's give it a try.
And we gave it a try, and it's not as bad as people think it is.
Generally speaking, it's not as bad.
But so was there a gradual increase in terms of what was being done?
Because so, first it was the strip club.
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You had $100 in your account because you're selling freaking instruments.
You're a man.
It's your job to have a job.
Instead, your woman sells her body to keep you afloat.
How can you say you don't want her to do it, but live your life in a way that she has to?
Well, I will respond.
So at that time, I was not selling instruments.
I got into selling instruments in 2020, which is because of lockdowns.
And 2020 was the best year for musical instrument sales in history.
So I actually made quite a bit of money, thousands of dollars every month, and was doing just fine when lots of other people weren't making any money.
So I didn't need her for money to do that.
I can DoorDash two on the side.
I don't need her money.
We make more money now for things that I definitely wouldn't be able to afford.
I do plan on having my own recording studio up in those mountains, and that is very expensive.
And thankfully, she is helping fund that.
So what was our money?
We both spend it on stuff we want.
Like, I want my nails done.
I want my hair done.
I want to go get some clothes.
You know, he needs a new guitar.
You know, like, we have things that we want and that we need, but we both like work.
You know, we need to do it.
So just really quick to go back to my initial question before the TTS came in.
So you were kind of describing what your first initial instinct was.
And you initially were like, no, no, no, I'm not comfortable with this.
And so you started just stripping.
Right.
And then it then OnlyFans?
I would say it was then porn.
Yeah, and then it was OnlyFans.
And then it was OnlyFans she started.
Okay.
All right.
So, I mean, I guess my two questions are: you previously said that you consider you to be monogamous.
Yeah.
Do you agree with that assessment?
Yes, because she's not romantically involved with the other men.
I understand the implication that it is sleeping with other men on camera and stuff, but that's it's more acting.
So, you know, other people would say that's cheating.
I don't, because it's not romance involved.
Well, it may not necessarily be cheating, but I don't think you can classify what you guys have as monogamy.
And that's totally fine.
We all have our own opinions, but we're just doing it for money and so we can get a place.
Because, you know, like we used to work in grocery stores and fast food and we were miserable and broke 400 bucks a week or something and could barely eat.
And like we both have an understanding.
Like one day we were just like really broke and had 100 bucks like you said.
And I was like, well, what if I work at this club?
I know you and I think it's weird.
Are you okay with it?
I asked him permission before I did any of this.
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Oh, okay.
That's why you're worried about it.
I do agree with prenups.
I think everybody should get a pre-nup, especially if you have a lot of money.
That's totally fine.
She's the breadwinner, though?
Even so, I have things that I don't want to give her, and she has things that she probably wouldn't want to give me.
So the pre-nup makes sense.
Let me ask you a question.
If she were to sleep with another man, not within the context of creating adult content, would you have an issue with that?
Yes.
Yeah, of course, because that's actually cheating.
No, but let's say she doesn't, it's just a one-night stand.
She just wanted to fog.
There's no romantic component.
There's no emotional component.
She just wants to get her rocks off, whatever.
Would you have an issue with that?
I wouldn't.
She might not, but would you have an issue with that?
I would have an issue with that, yes.
Because that's not for the camera.
That's not for making money.
That's cheating.
Can I ask out of genuine curiosity?
You said telling your story early on that you kind of willfully remain ignorant about this, that you don't want to know what's going on behind the scenes, you don't watch the content, you don't subscribe to the OnlyFans.
Do you think that's intentional?
Like there's a part of you that knows something is not quite right about that?
I do think so, yeah.
I think there's a part of me that is kind of a little disturbed by it.
I'm not going to lie.
Do you think that's because really biologically speaking, I mean, I studied biomedical sciences.
You can't separate the romantic, emotional part of engaging in the most intimate experience that you can with another human being from solely the act of getting a paycheck or making money.
Well, that's the same thing, because no actor, even actors don't want to watch their other actor, if they're married, kiss another person on camera.
So it's normal to not want to see your other partner touching someone else, kissing someone else, engaging in sexual acts with somebody else.
Is that hard then to see that escalate from?
I can always quit.
I mean, we both have an understanding that we're doing it for money.
And I asked him from the day one, like, hey, can I work at the club?
I won't do it if you don't want me to, but we need money.
And we both came to an understanding, like, sure, you can try it out.
Work at the club one night, and it was a topless bar at the time.
So it wasn't even like a full strip club.
And they were like, okay, well, I'll do it for a night.
And if I don't like it, I never have to do it again.
And I was like, are you sure you consented this, babe?
Are you sure?
And he was like, yeah.
And I'm like, okay, I do too.
And everything has changed really substantially since.
Well, of course, yeah.
I mean, well, the strip clubs closed during COVID.
And so someone reached out to me online on Instagram asking if I wanted to do adult film.
And at first I was like, no way, that's just crazy.
But the clubs closed.
And I just said, are you, can we do this, babe?
Are you sure?
And like, I always ask him if he's okay with it.
And he always says, yes.
And to this day, if he wants me to quit right now and go back to a regular job, I would.
I mean, it would suck not having the money and being able to pay the bills, but I would do it.
She definitely has wanted to quit many times.
I hate it too.
She really wanted to get it.
She definitely does not like it.
It's just literally.
Society makes it hard to make money.
Now, if McDonald's paid a livable wage and I can make thousands a month, I would do it.
But it's just not the reality.
And that's definitely the type when we did have that $100 in our bank account and she did this.
We did have jobs at the time.
They just were literally getting paid $400 a week.
And then after food, gas, insurance, any other bills, we only had $100.
And even that $100 was not going to last us the week.
So it was just tough.
I had to ask friends for money, stay on people's couches.
My car had engine issues, needed to get repaired.
It's tough.
And a lot of people have gone through this.
And some people find other alternatives to get out of it.
And then others, this is what you had to do to get out of it.
Go ahead.
I just have a question because, I mean, I've kind of been in similar situations, like living in cars and going through hardships as well.
Did you guys ever try to get like food stamps or anything?
Because we applied for that.
I would find that the money was both of you.
I need you speaking closer to the business.
I would definitely say that the money was not nearly enough from what you would get for food stamps.
I would say it would run out after like a week or two.
And then the other thing is the money that California tends to provide is like, I think it was like $300 a week or something, or $300 or something a month.
I mean, this state costs thousands of dollars to live comfortably, I would say.
100%.
But just as someone who's been on food stamps before, that would mean that both of you guys are able to get it.
So then that's doubled at that time.
Yeah.
And we had that.
Well, one of us had a job because one of us had to get a job.
Should both of us just quit and be on food stamps?
Even so, we would have the same amount of money, or if not less, because if I'm making 400 bucks a week at the grocery store and he's on food stamps, that's more than both of us on food stamps with no job.
Do you guys have a date for your wedding?
Is that out of curiosity?
No, it hasn't been top priority because buying a home and getting out of the car and having a nicer life, just nicer complaints.
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to have the wedding and people to show up.
And then, you know, I want to have a house first.
I don't want them to think, oh, like, we're losers.
We still have the car.
Like, I want it to be picture perfect before we have the actual wedding.
So we invite people over after the wedding, the after-party.
You know, we have like some cheese and some wine, you know, or just everyone's invited.
Am I invited to the wedding?
I invite anyone who wants to come to the wedding.
Anybody that wants to come, but I mean, the wedding for me would just be now that we've done everything that we wanted.
You can quit the industry.
Let's go get married.
Have you ever thought about the fact that marriage typically provides much stronger financial security and you could go to City Hall tomorrow and have a party a year and a half from now?
But we're already living together, so what's like marriage?
What is what is the greater financial security?
If we're already sharing everything, our money, we live together.
I mean, all kinds of things.
It's easier to get a loan for a house.
You can combine your bank accounts.
You have much better tax obligations than the federal government.
We don't really pay taxes and based.
I mean, we kind of do, but like only if you're not going to be able to do that.
Good for you.
I don't.
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of libertarian.
I don't really believe in paying.
Are you a sovereign citizen?
No, no.
I mean, look, I do believe we need a government.
I'm not like a libertarian who thinks there's, you know, we shouldn't have a government or police or some taxes.
We definitely need some taxes.
I'm just saying I don't want to pay them.
Okay.
Sure, sure.
Fair enough.
So to bring it back to kind of what we were talking about, your fiancé, your girlfriend, she strips, does OnlyFans, makes content with other men.
Do you have any concerns?
For example, I mean, the obvious one to me is STDs.
We get tested all the time, and it's people wear protection.
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I think I get what you're trying to say, but nothing bad's going to happen to us.
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I'm not even worried.
Like, I never thought I would find anyone because both of us are really weird.
It's hard for anyone to find their soulmate.
And once you find it, then you're good.
My response is I don't believe in a soul.
And I do meditate though, and I just let my mind be clear of thoughts and worries and depression and things like that.
So if that's how you feel, that's okay.
I don't think about it, like I said.
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Go ahead.
In what ways has your industry negatively impacted you?
Well, I really don't think it has impacted me.
Obviously, I don't like what I'm doing, but it's not that big of a deal.
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And you know what?
At the end of the night, she comes home to me and I get to give her a hug and a kiss, and the rest of you are all paying for that.
Yeah, they're just jealous because they're single behind a screen.
On that note, have you, ever since being on the show, this is your third appearance, have you noticed an increase in OnlyFans subscribers?
I have, yeah.
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You got at least 100, yeah.
Yes, 100.
What are you guys doing?
Yes, a ton of them.
Actually, I did check last night, and there's tons of you that are subscribing and following her.
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Okay, so the STD thing.
Is there a concern there?
No.
No, because they do get tested for the industry, and then there is protection.
But most of them can be done with medicine nowadays.
If she did get one of the ones that you can't take care of medicine, that would be a concern.
Well, sure, I mean, there's the treatable ones, but I mean the non-treatable ones would be a concern.
Yeah.
If it did happen.
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Well, you know what?
Look, we don't pay a lot of taxes, but we still have to some taxes you still have to pay, okay?
OnlyFans, you still have to sign that stuff, okay?
But yes, OnlyFans takes a lot of your money, too.
Yeah, and you know what?
And she gets, she doesn't, her agency, the management, everybody's getting a cut.
And by the time we pay the taxes, she doesn't get to keep a lot of stuff too.
So if we paid a lot more of the taxes, we wouldn't have a lot of money.
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Okay, so.
Can I go back to my question?
So you said that at times you want to quit and you come home and you hate your job.
Yeah, well, I mean, everyone has J's like that at any job.
You know, it's not just the adult industry.
Everyone comes home crying.
Like, I used to come home crying because my manager was a dick and I was making 400 bucks a week.
And, you know, they're like, you're not wearing your uniform right.
You know, and like, I get less micromanagement with the adult industry.
At least I get to look cute, you know, and show up when I want.
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When you kiss your girl's mouth, do you usually taste a black man?
Oh my God.
That's like, I obviously brush my teeth.
I don't touch him until I showered and brush my teeth.
Because hygiene, you know, even after you pee, you know, you don't want to touch your person.
If he eats an onion, I'm not going to kiss him right after.
If he's sick, I'll make sure he blows his nose and stuff.
She refuses my kiss in the morning.
Sometimes his breath stinks, and sometimes mine does too.
Normal.
So you brush your teeth there.
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You can't expect your.
I mean, one or two percent of the people are going to sub.
Not everybody.
5,000 people are not going to sub to OnlyFans.
I think that's an unrealistic action.
There's people who are going to like you, people who are not going to like you.
Just like all of us at this table.
Everyone's going to like some of us and like some of us less, you know, like people have opinions, you know?
But so it seemed like from what you said, the primary reason that you got into doing adult content and stripping was for financial reasons.
For money, and also, well, I got into dancing at the clubs because, for one, I was glamorous and fun.
Like, sorry, hold on.
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Dude, Keely opened herself up to danger and ridicule and still insists on sharing everything she gets with you.
And you still sit there and say you want a prenup.
You don't deserve her, and she doesn't deserve a guy so unwilling to sacrifice.
She resorts to sex work.
Yeah, but I mean a prenup too also means I don't get to take all of her money either.
I mean, I literally just talked to...
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Yeah, like you can make money gaming.
I don't play video games.
It's not that I hate them.
I have tons of gamer friends.
I just don't.
I don't care about video games.
I'm a musician.
I play guitar and I play with bands.
I don't play games.
I think a lot of us are hearing from both of you that there's some emotional wrestling with what your current situation is looking like right now.
You kind of want to quit and you say you really don't like your job, but you're not sure when you want to retire, and it seems to be escalating every day.
You don't want to know what's happening behind the scenes.
Do you think that there's a chance that that could ruin the opportunity to get married or leave some sort of emotional permanence?
We're together forever.
I'm not even worried.
I think she definitely wants to continue.
I think she definitely wants to quit.
She comes back and it's just like, I'm done with this job.
And she has weeks where she definitely is tired of it.
And if she wants to do it, then by far she can do it.
What if she doesn't want to?
If she doesn't want to, then that's fine too.
It's as long as she's working and bringing in money and I'm working and bringing in money, whatever job she has, she's probably going to quit in the next, you know, she's 25.
We'll probably say five more years of it.
What if she doesn't?
It could be low.
Theoretically, what if you guys aren't married in a few years and the cycle has continued to be?
If she doesn't, then I'll probably confront her and say, look, it's time to quit.
We have money coming in from other sources.
I believe she can keep the OnlyFans, but she doesn't need to do the other stuff.
As long as The OnlyFans is bringing in enough, that's the boundary.
Because that would be just like stuff that's already out there, content that's already there.
You can post it.
You don't have to do very much.
It's a very passive income, I would say, while the other stuff is more active income.
Wait, Keeley, if...
Sorry, your name again is... Mick.
Mick.
Okay, I thought it was Nick for some reason.
Keely, if he started in the OnlyFans and started just like running through chicks for content, would you have an issue with him like just fucking other chicks for content?
Oh, of course, of course I would because I'm already making so much money.
He doesn't need to do that.
He's mine.
He can't touch anyone.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, okay.
We've unraveled another layer here.
So if he was making content, strictly content, no romantic, no emotional connection, you would have an issue with him sleeping with other women.
Oh, of course.
Because I'm the one making money and he doesn't need to touch anyone else.
I don't even want to touch anyone else.
Listen, Mick's a handsome guy.
Yeah, but he's mine.
So anyone touches him, you die.
Not literally, but you know.
So why is it okay the other way around then?
Well, because we both decided this is what we're going to do for money.
So if he wants to have me quit, I will.
And he needs to find another job that's not what I'm doing.
Has your job given you any trauma?
Every job can give you a little bit of trauma.
You got a big one?
I don't know.
Mick, you got a big one.
Like, just for him to answer.
He can answer.
It's up to him.
I would say it is pretty big.
Yeah, it is.
All right, Mick.
Listen.
Yo, this has been too one-sided here.
You need to start an OnlyFans son and start getting into the game.
You can't do it then.
You know what I mean?
I've actually just said that that would be a problem, though.
Okay, so I have like a boundary.
So I was going to say, I'm very torn on what I'm comfortable with because I haven't really decided yet.
But I do think I've tried to get him a sugar mama because I have sugar daddies, but he hasn't pursued it enough.
And I told him it's okay if he wants to, but I guess.
She definitely has a jealous streak where if I even talk to other girls who are just, I have no intention of ever dating or I'm not flirting at all and I'm just talking to them.
You know, maybe they're just someone at the cashier counter and they're literally just taking my order for coffee, you know?
And she's gotten jealous.
Like, how that girl look at you and stuff.
Like, why is she looking at me?
Everyone feels that way.
Everyone watches.
She says everyone, but I feel like that's something she gets.
And I don't get that way when she talks to other guys.
I'm not like, I don't think she's going to try to bone a guy just because she's talking about.
Does that bother you?
It does bother me.
I hate jealousy.
I hate jealousy in a relationship.
I think women, if she should know that I'm with her, and just because I'm talking to another woman does not mean that I want to sleep with her.
And that's how I feel.
She definitely gets very particular.
Well, it's different because I'm not worried because this is a podcast.
You could talk to other women.
I don't care.
But like, it's about what you say.
I think it's maybe TikTok is very toxic because everyone's posting, my man looked at this girl, and then they're posting it on TikTok.
And it's all adult content with other men.
I'm just doing it to make money.
I'm not going to be on TikTok.
No, but he would do it.
Just because it's for money, the other song isn't for money.
He would be doing it to make money too.
But you just said it wouldn't be okay if he made it.
He wouldn't like it if he had an OnlyFans.
Well, he's okay if he has OnlyFans, but he can't touch anyone.
No, he's not going to like you.
No, he's going to sleep with other women.
Mick, I'm your manager.
Mick, I'm going to be your OnlyFans manager.
Okay.
We're going to start your OnlyFans.
It's going to be a good one.
That's fun.
Hold on.
Here's the name.
Big Dick Mick.
Okay.
That's the name of your girlfriend.
That's what it is.
Mick, I'm your manager.
I'm going to take 50%.
Okay.
I know how to do these things.
Do you guys ever talk about this all the time?
Everything is an open book, you know?
So you've been together for over five years.
You're engaged, but you don't have a date for your wedding.
And there seems to be a dichotomy here between what people are comfortable with in the relationship, but you're not on the same page with it.
Is that something you talk about at home?
Yeah, we talk about all this stuff we're kind of talking about right now.
I think we just haven't come to maybe an agreement on it yet.
And we still have.
Well, you tell me, you tell me.
I will quit this adult industry now if you want me to.
But you're always like, oh, but come on, babe, we need to make money.
So it's more you do need to make money.
I'm lazy not wanting to do stuff as much.
Oh my gosh.
As much as I love you, both of us got to bring in a little bit of money.
Shit.
Wait, so hold on.
Just more about the jealousy thing.
Like that thing we can't agree.
She thinks it's okay to be jealous.
I don't believe that's.
You know, girls are more jealous than guys.
I think that's just a relationship.
Do you feel your jealousy is amplified, though?
Because as much as you say you don't care and you know that you guys are like committed, there is a part of you that feels like he's going to leave for what you do.
Never.
I'm not even sure.
So where does the jealousy come from and why is it amplified?
If he can't talk to people, but you're sleeping with other people.
That's hold on.
She wanted to come in.
Go ahead.
I think jealousy, period, like aside from sleeping with other people is in all relationships.
Yeah, exactly.
Like every, you can't say that you've had a boyfriend or girlfriend before and you don't get jealous when they're talking to other girls or boys.
Like every single relationship holds jealousy.
And I wanted to ask Mick a question actually, but would you start or go into the adult industry?
That's not something I would actually be probably comfortable with.
I would be okay with starting an OnlyFans, but not the adult industry aspect.
He's too shy and nervous for that.
I'm a little anxiety.
I mean, I get a little nervous with that type of stuff.
I don't feel like I could be comfortable with that.
Both of us are nervous just being here sometimes.
I mean, we're just.
That's why I want to be like a studio musician and have a producer.
I'm like the behind-the-scenes guy.
Like even when I used to play live on stages with bands and we'd play rock and roll, I was the guy in the background doing background vocals or background guitar.
I wasn't on in front of everyone.
Mick.
Listen, as your manager, I think, you know, you're a handsome guy.
You kind of look like a young Burt Reynolds, kind of.
Does he?
Maybe.
I'll take it.
Thank you.
You know, you got the good jawline.
I know.
But I guess my confusion is you do OnlyFans.
He accepts it.
Allegedly, apparently.
However, you would have a major issue with him doing scenes with women.
Hold on.
Yeah, thank you.
Mick, save yourself and find someone who brings the best out of as you would with that person.
I'm the best thing he's ever going to get because I'm the best.
And we're soulmates.
I think she does bring the best out of me.
I think we both have our issues and we've both grown as people.
When we met each other, we were a lot younger.
We're a lot more mature.
Closer, closer.
We're a lot more mature and older now.
We certainly still have our issues, just like in any relationship, but we work those issues out.
We talk to each other.
And that's all you can ask for in life.
And here's like my thing with it because I used to strip, right?
Like my, not the ex that I currently live with, but another ex.
Yeah.
You used to strip too, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So, um, but it was like an act of addiction, kind of like I was clean off my drug of choice, but like not clean, clean.
So I was, it was more like doing it to make money so that I could go get high.
But I mean, you know, whatever people aren't going to care.
But sorry.
Oh, yeah.
A relationship is like a contract, right?
Like, and it's also about compromise.
If you respect each other, you're going to hear what each other has to say and you have to listen to each other.
And so when my ex was telling me like he's uncomfortable with like the fact that I can go to the strip club and do this, but like he can't make an OnlyFans or whatever, we made a compromise and we actually made an OnlyFans together and like started making content together.
So like, it's all about compromise.
Yeah, I'd be okay with that.
Yeah.
If he wants to make an OnlyFans, I'm totally fine with it.
I just would want him to do content with me.
And the reason I don't want him touching anyone else but me is because I've already done that and have been making money, and I don't even want to touch anyone else but him.
I just do it for money.
Yeah.
And that's something that you want her to quit eventually.
I want to quit today if I could, but we just need the money.
How do you cope with that?
I sleep.
I sleep.
I just look at the end of the light at the end of the tunnel and be like, look, there's people dying all over the world.
Someone always has it worse.
And that's not to say that my situation isn't valid, but no one's perfect.
No one's life is perfect.
No one's relationships perfectly.
Okay, but wait.
Why don't you want Mick to start an OnlyFans?
I never said he couldn't.
He can't.
You said you would have an issue.
He hasn't started one.
You said you would have an issue if he was doing BG content.
With anyone but me, because I'm already making content.
But that's what you do.
You do BG content.
I don't even want to do it, though.
Yeah, but you do content with other men, but he can't do content with other women.
I don't want to do it.
Huh?
But I don't even want to do it.
I don't want to do it.
But you do it.
But you don't want him to do it.
Why can't he do it?
Because he's going to make all the money because I'm already making content.
Don't you want double the money?
Doesn't you rush her from that?
That you have to make all the money in relationships?
Honestly, a little bit, because I want him to make money and pull his weight.
But I mean, I guess I just never, I don't know, he just doesn't make as much.
But you are refusing to let him do an OnlyFans.
No, he can make an OnlyFans.
No, no, no, but with other women.
Oh, obviously, yeah, because I'm already in the middle of the moment.
He's young Bill Reynolds.
But he's mine.
But I'm doing, I already, I'm doing, the point is he can't make an OnlyFans with content with other people.
You can't keep a man that handsome.
I can, and I will.
There is nothing you can do about it.
Mine, mine, mine.
I don't care.
Afterwards.
Manager.
I got you, man.
He can have an OnlyFans.
Look, he can totally have an OnlyFans, but he can only make content by himself or with me.
Look, OnlyFans, you can have chefs on there, guitar people.
OnlyFans just isn't adult content, you know.
Okay, Mick.
I guess my question to you is, and I do want to continue moving because I want to give everybody an opportunity to share their relationship status.
Mick, don't you think it would be more ideal to not have a girlfriend that is doing adult content with other men, to be stripping, to doing all this?
I would say it would be easier if she didn't have to do that, but I'm not going to leave her for someone that isn't doing all that because I loved her before it.
I love her after it.
That's not an issue for me.
Does she have to right now?
I mean, how financially secure are you guys?
We have Louis Vuitton bags.
We only have like 15.
She doesn't have a Louis Vuitton bag.
So it's not a long term sustainable strategy.
So what are you doing to build a sustainable strategy to get out of it?
If he made money, I'd quit doing what I'm doing.
If we both could find another job that wasn't in the adult entertainment, I would do it.
Like, I always say to him, look, we can go work and I can.
It has to make more than what we are right now, which I doubt most jobs would be paying as much as we're making right now.
However, I will say this.
We do have a plan.
We have a savings account.
We have about enough saved up.
We are planning on going to the Smokies and by the end of the summer.
Okay, how about for income, though?
Like, what are you doing to train for a workforce position that's not in the adult film industry or OnlyFans or having a sugar daddy?
I'm going to build out my recording studio.
When he gets a place.
I'm going to start, once we have that house, I'm going to start doing my own content.
It's going to be YouTube related and things like that.
I'm going to be building the studio.
I'm going to be having people come in and charge them to use the recording studio for whatever they are.
I'm going to be doing session work in Nashville with other guitarists and things like that.
So that's going to bring in an income for me.
She can get a job at a coffee shop or whatever if she wants to.
She can still do her OF if she wants to.
She does a lot of live streaming and I like live streaming.
Maybe one day I'll start my own podcast.
It's kind of fun, you know, talking to people.
Hold on, I just have to interrupt a little bit.
Guys, we put members-only mode on just for a couple minutes here.
The chat was getting a little hard for the mods and for Eric to keep up.
So I put members-only slurring my words here.
I put members-only mode on.
We'll leave it on for about 10-15 minutes and then we'll switch back.
Okay, maybe we'll touch base on that again.
I do want to let the rest of the girls go.
So, what's your current relationship status?
Single, situationship, relationship?
I'm in a relationship.
Okay, how long has that?
A little shy of a year now.
Is that your longest relationship?
No, my longest is five years.
Five, five.
Okay.
What about you?
I am with a life partner for almost five years.
Super taken.
Okay, super taken.
Okay.
Sorry, I will just say something.
I'm from New York, so sometimes I'll say like New York slang.
So I don't know if that's like okay.
Like, what's an example of what you're saying?
Like, oh, you're wilding right now.
I think that's a slang everywhere.
I've heard that before.
Well, okay.
Well, others.
Okay, got it.
Explain the neck tap, by the way.
I got it at a women's retreat.
Can you like pull your hair back so we can?
A woman's retreat.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm single, and my longest relationship was two, two and a half years.
Okay, single.
Like proper single?
Like 100% single.
Sure.
What about you?
I am very happily engaged to my best friend.
Engaged.
Okay, how long have you guys been together?
We started dating in July of 2021 and he proposed in December.
And I know you're watching.
Hi, Brock.
Yo, what up, Brock?
How you doing?
Okay.
All right, so that's everyone's relationship.
Jesus, what this is a mess of a panel tonight.
okay so hold on one sec i wanted to bring it back to Sorry, guys.
Yeah?
By the way, I don't think some of the super chats are.
They're not triggering?
Has more than one come.
Oh, is that it?
W super chatted $99.99.
Oh, I know what happened there.
To the girl with red hair, how can you say you love him and also say you are the best he can get?
Love is not selfish, it's selfless.
Guy with the black t-shirt, why don't you get any respectable you can get until you can fulfill your dreams so she can stop the of?
So to answer that, we're the best each other can get, but we love each other.
Like, you have to be a little bit selfish, not like...
You can still respect your partner and be a little bit selfish.
It's a balance, you know?
Oh my god!
Garbage.
Love you, Brian.
Everyone's getting a paycheck at the end of the day, and honestly, I will quit.
But like, babe, do you want me to quit?
I'll quit today.
Oh.
Do you want her to quit?
I've been wanting to quit anyway.
Is this a whatever because she can quit when she's ready?
Okay, but what do you want?
Yeah, what are you going to do to make money?
I would like her to quit, yes.
Well, you would like her to quit.
Do you want her to quit tonight on the whatever podcast?
Yeah.
Do you want to make it official?
Okay, we'll make it official.
She's quitting.
For real?
Yes.
Okay, then from this point on, what are we both going to do for money?
Because we need to have a plan.
You can still do OnlyFans.
Okay.
Compromise.
Compromise.
Okay.
Deal.
Oh, my.
And just so you guys know, he has access to my phone anytime.
Like, I have nothing to hide.
So if you want to look at who I'm texting, what pictures I'm like, okay, so you're quitting.
Yeah.
Wow.
Right now.
Yeah.
You're going to delete your OnlyFans?
You're going to keep that shit around.
Up to you, babe.
What do you want?
The OnlyFans money is too good.
Okay, then.
Wait, before you guys quit, though, you got to let Mick do one scene with another chick.
No.
Come on.
It's only fair.
It's only fair.
No, no, no way in hell.
Never happening.
Oh, he's never happening here.
He can't do a scene with a chick, but you can.
I don't even want to touch these people, though.
That's the thing.
Neither does he, but he needs the money.
I know, but I already have so much money for what I did.
Why do both of us need to do that?
Disregard her.
Listen to me, Mick.
I want you to say this.
Say, show me the money.
Say it.
Show me the money.
Louder.
Say with your chest.
Show me the money.
Louder.
Show me the money.
Show me the money.
Louder, Mick.
The money.
Louder, Mick.
Show me the money.
There we go.
Oh, I got so cringe.
There we go.
Jerry Maguire, by the way.
Okay.
So.
The super chat.
The missed super chat Eric.
Can you pull it up?
I'll read it.
I know what happened there.
Oh, wait.
There's another one that just came in.
Actually, hide it because there's one that's about to come in.
So, by the way, thank you for all the memberships, guys.
Oh, my.
Thank you.
$99.99.
This is some double-standard nonsense.
Yeah, Eric Slavias.
Men and women are different, right?
So there should be double standards for some things.
But it's, I mean, you could, that argument could be made more so in favor of if it was Mick who's.
Yes, I get that, but this is what works for us, and it's not permanent.
Mick, just be honest.
You want to start an OnlyFans?
Just say it.
It's up to you.
I'm not stopping you from doing anything you want to do.
Well, you don't want him to do it with other girls.
Well, obviously, duh, because I'm already making so much money from money.
Yeah, but you can double it.
Bro, this is Burt Reynolds in the flesh, son.
Yes, but he would be too nervous to do it anyway.
Instead of a two-bedroom.
You're underselling.
You're under a three-bedroom.
You're underselling your fiancée.
Not really.
I think he would kill it.
Yeah, but I just don't want him to.
What's that?
And he doesn't want to either.
What's that movie with Mark Wahlberg?
With the it from like the 70s or 80s, Mark Wahlberg.
Boogie Nights.
Boogie Nights.
That's you, dude.
It's a great movie.
Just look, you need to look yourself deep in the eyes in the mirror and just be like, oh, what the fuck does he say in that movie?
Anyone in the chat, can you let me know what he says in that movie?
But that's a prosthetic.
Don't worry about it.
You wanted to go in.
Or what were you going to say?
I lost my train of thought.
I was going to say something.
You said there's nothing romantic about the job that you have, but if you're so against him having the same job, will you admit that there is something romantic about your job?
No, what?
I just think it's both things, both of us are together and we just want to touch each other.
It's romantic, but I'm saying it's not romantic when I'm touching other people.
Like, I'm not enjoying it, is what I mean.
And he wouldn't enjoy it at all.
It's not enjoyable at all.
No, it's just a lot of people.
Just awkward.
Because we need money.
Look, why do people work at McDonald's?
Is that enjoyable?
I was about to say, I think most sex workers, they don't, it's a job, right?
Like, they're not necessarily having a great time 100% of the time.
But the money is very, very good.
Like, you make very good money doing it.
But it's like a job.
If you ask a sex worker, do you like your job?
It depends on the sex worker.
Some of them are like, yeah, I love getting railed by 15 guys.
Other girls are like, you know, I just kind of do this for money.
So it just really depends if you're willing to take that risk.
So, what then is the dollar amount that is the price of your peace and happiness?
Like, really, is it really?
But if there's no price, then why not struggle financially because you hold a career payment?
Because people say you don't need money to be happy, but you do.
You need money to eat.
You need money to pay.
Yeah, absolutely.
But you're just going to eat.
But at what cost?
But at what cost?
What cost?
Once it's over and done, and we have our place, we're never going to look back and be like, yep, we did what we did.
I worked at a burger place for minimum wage and did that for three months.
And the way the management and customers treated me there and throwing food at me and things was one of the worst experiences in my life.
I was so stressful at that end of the three months, I quit.
I was at that point, I was pulling my hair out and losing sleep and so stressed that I said I would rather be homeless and starving than working at this burger place.
I will not name it.
But wouldn't you be wouldn't you rather be all those things and not have your girl getting screwed by a bunch of dudes?
If it brings in money, then I'm okay with it.
It is what it is.
That's how our life has become, and that's our life.
I mean, I didn't choose it.
She didn't choose it.
But, you know, a lot of, I've had dozens of odd jobs, and 90% of them were awful.
I mean, the way I was treated, the you look strong, Mick.
You look like an ox.
I think you could handle physical labor.
I think you could handle like a good physical labor job.
I could.
I did forestry firefighting, and that was actually really good.
And I had to have a backpack on me and jump through those mountains with a chainsaw in my hand.
And I was in good shape back then, you know.
Got it.
Here, let's.
I got to get to these super chats.
Eric, can you pull up the one that I missed?
Or actually, wait, maybe I can do it.
Hold on.
I got it.
I got it.
Oh, oh, my bad.
Here.
I got it.
By the way, guys, just a heads up.
If you're donating in a different currency, if you're donating in a different currency, you need to do the conversion for it to trigger TTS.
So it needs to be 100 USD.
So if it's like, if you're donating Canadian or whatever other currency, it needs for it to trigger TTS.
It needs to be 100 USD.
So do the maths on that.
Jay.
Oh, shit.
Eric, can you hide those?
Scuffed.
Jay Ronald, thank you for the Australian 150, man.
Appreciate it.
This podcast is bloody fantastic, mate.
Always interesting and diverse guests with insights that surprise me for better or worse.
Keep up the good GIF.
Gif?
The fuck is that?
Brian, you absolute legend.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
I don't know what time it is in Australia, but thank you, man.
Really appreciate your patronage.
And sorry I didn't come through as a TTS.
It's through Streamlabs, so the conversion has to be done.
But if it happens again, I'll always try to read it.
Oh.
From Etheist Venom super chatted. Thank you.
I work full time and go to school I'm not doing OnlyFans There's probably women in same shoes as me And do not have OnlyFans as their source of income Yo, Mick, now that she's gone, bro Look, the table's back.
We're going to back you, right?
Right, girls?
I miss yourself.
Right, girls are going to back you.
Look.
Listen, you need to start fucking chicks on OnlyFans.
That's what you got to do, bro.
Bro, she's doing it.
You're doing it.
It's only fair.
Would she kill you?
Would she like fucking stab you?
What actually are saying is it's only fair.
That's what we always say to each other.
It's not fair, though.
I know.
Did you see what she said?
She's like, oh, no.
It's only fair.
No other girls can have BDM.
Yeah.
Only she gets BDM.
No, not cool.
I just think you guys deserve better than it is what it is.
I know, but she doesn't.
The thing is, is that I know she doesn't want to sleep with those other men.
And I don't want to sleep with other women.
I'm not going out trying to get with other women either.
So for me, it's like, it's not like, oh, I got to go do this just to get be fair.
I don't have that feeling.
I have a question for both of you.
Jesus.
Sorry.
I'm sorry, chat.
Okay.
What's the hashtag free Mick?
Free Mick.
Am I like in a toxic relationship where I wear some of that?
Is it that bad?
We're happy.
I mean, I'm happy.
Are you happy?
Which one of you wears the pants in the relationship?
Well, he drives.
I don't drive.
I just make some of the most of the money.
So I feel like we both wear the pants for certain things.
I cook, I clean, I drive.
I do most everything except for make as much as she does, and I still do make money.
So I would say I'm probably the pants in the relationship.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Kyle Henderson's.
Thank you, Kyle.
$100.
Mick could have joined the Carpenter's Union or so another trade.
Thoughtful face.
I did forestry firefighting.
I went to trade school to do that, and that was my profession for six months, and it was very good.
And I wouldn't mind doing it again if I was hired.
Anybody knows anybody in the forestry industry that wants to reach out?
Let me know.
If you want to save us, then you have to hire us at something that's going to make almost as much as what we're doing now.
How much are you making right now?
How much do you think we're making?
I don't know.
How much?
From all your puzzles and whatnot.
much you think i would say closer to the mic guys I would say five or six K a month.
But at what cost?
But at what cost?
At what cost?
I don't know.
I myself probably make a grand or two a month, maybe $3K on a good month from all of the instruments and stuff I sell.
I sell lots of pedals lately too because they take up less space and people love pedals nowadays.
I have a question for Kiwi.
Would you ever consider taking care of kids or something?
Like being a nanny?
Because that can pay a lot too.
There's a very high demand in being a nanny.
I don't know if I'm very good with kids.
I've never changed a diapers.
super chatted $100 your roles are swapped Mick she provides controls and she's territorial over you I thought maybe you were just lazy and pudgy and you are that but you're also softer than a role of charm in ultra your story is painful But I mean, if you're happy, you're not the man.
What does it make you feel like?
Most men, I would say most guys, would probably not be cool with the arrangement that you guys have.
Yes, I would say that.
I've been heckled and given a hard time by some of my closest friends for years now, and a lot of them don't think I should be with her, but I'm okay with it, and it doesn't bother me.
It just doesn't.
I'm sorry if it bothers you, if it would bother you.
I thought it did bother you, though.
I said there's some level of that discomfort and that, yes, I don't want this.
But at the end of the day, compromise and sacrifice, I guess.
You say, okay, it's fine.
I can handle it.
Keely, why don't you just join the military?
I'm not cut out for it.
I'm very into fashion.
I have anxiety.
I don't want to get blown up and die.
Okay, I'm not into that.
What's the point of the military operations?
That likely would not happen nowadays.
Okay, I'm just being dramatic.
But, you know, I don't want to be in the military.
I'm not cut out for it.
I respect, hey, if you do that, then more power to you.
Thank you for serving our country.
But I just, I'm not cut out for it.
Just like his friend.
He had a friend who was in the military, right?
And he wasn't cut out for it.
And he had PTSD just from.
Yeah, just for six months in the military and he had back issues and PTSD.
But I know other guys that were in it and did four years and are great and doing fine.
It all depends who it is.
All right, I'm going to do a couple chats.
This one came in at the top of the show, Liberty.
I'm not able to re-trigger it for some reason, but thank you for the $125 donation through Streamlabs.
By the way, guys, just a reminder: if you're just tuning in, instead of donating through YouTube, doing a super chat, YouTube takes 30%.
Whereas if you donate through Streamlabs, the link for that is in the description.
They only take like 3%.
So if you donate $100, YouTube takes $30.
If you donate through Streamlabs, they only take $3%.
So definitely I recommend if you guys would rather more of your patronage to actually go towards whatever instead of just throwing it towards YouTube.
Think about that.
Liberty, thank you for doing it through Streamlabs.
Question for the panel.
I am a husband and father of two raising a daughter in what to me is a continually failing world.
How could I be a better father by shaping her into a more whole woman for a worthy man to spend her life with?
Eric, can you close that?
It's just too noisy with the rain.
Can I answer that question?
Sure.
Don't worry about how much money he's making.
That's it.
Well, that's my biggest piece of advice.
If you're going to tell your daughter that, I mean, it's like, I don't know.
My whole issue, I could go into it, but my whole issue with this like high-value men thing is that, A, it's completely subjective.
People who designate themselves up as high-value men are not high-value men to me because I have a different set of morals and standards and values, right?
So, and if it's because they're making a lot of money, I don't date men who are rich.
So that's just like my main issue with it.
I would say just be present in your daughter's life and spend time with her and just be honest.
If she has questions, just tell her like it is.
You know, some of the ugly truths are out there, but they're really important to know.
And when you have that coming from your father, it makes the greatest difference.
Homeschool, by the way.
Homeschooling, not a bad idea.
Yeah, I think that's what we're going to do.
Not a bad idea.
I'm not going to have kids one day too, right, babe?
Is that what you want to do as homeschool?
Public schools are indoctrination.
Yeah, I definitely want to homeschool our children because I do not agree with the way public school systems.
Also, my childhood was the worst time of my life as an adult.
I would say I'm much happier than okay.
We have a veteran carpenter here.
Thank you for the 50.
How worthless do you feel that your girl has to sell her body to feed you?
If I pulled every man in America, I bet you are one of one.
I mean, don't underestimate.
Oh, shit.
I missed it.
Hold on.
Sorry, I'm trying to re-trigger it.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Go find a job and stop being a bee.
Your response to veteran carpenter.
Well, I would say that I know quite a few other people that are in a very similar situation.
And most of the people, the girls that she's met in the industry, have boyfriends, whether it be at the strip club or on a film set.
She does note.
I mean, it's more than you think if you're jerking off to a porn star.
She likely has a husband or a boyfriend at home.
It just is.
And kids likely too.
So So there's been like ex-male porn stars on this show.
I think I watched an episode a couple episodes back where he had like three girlfriends or something like that.
So like it's okay for a man to do porn.
It's okay for a man to do all this stuff.
And the woman has to sit at home and be submissive.
But when a woman's doing it, she doesn't gain the same respect.
And I kind of understand where it's coming from, right?
Because biologically, I understand what you're saying that like women aren't naturally designed to have casual sex.
Like I kind of agree with you there, but it doesn't, people don't really see it as that anymore.
I think we've evolved to like it's about mutual respect.
Like for example, if there's a dual income household, why do I owe you submission if we're making the same amount of money?
Why do I owe you submission if we're splitting chores?
Like that doesn't make any sense.
Who says it's okay for men to be porn stars?
Like I don't know.
I mean I just that's like the general opinion that I thought like the red pill community kind of had.
I mean it's true people not are not as hard on men.
Like oh when you're when you're a kid in high school and you're a guy for example you sleep around with a bunch of girls.
Everyone's like go bro but if a girl sleeps around oh she's a slut it's bad.
So I get what you're saying.
Yeah.
But at the same time it's like I listen I'm a psychoanadic so I agree.
I think sex addiction can definitely be a byproduct of this like hookup culture and casual sex.
Absolutely.
Like it was for me.
It was sex addiction for me was probably the only thing I got addicted to where nobody could say shit to me because I would hide behind feminism and I'd be like, it's women empowerment, y'all.
Like go.
Like let's, you know, and nobody said, I mean, people still call me a whore, obviously.
There was consequences for it.
But generally, like nobody really felt like they could call me out on it all.
So I see both sides, but at the same time, it's like, I don't know.
Do you think feminism today is a problem?
Is toxic?
Yes.
I don't think.
Why?
It's literally like a supremacist group.
It is.
It's a cult.
It's a new cult.
This is crazy.
Absolutely.
It's rooted in broken men.
All right.
Wait, somebody disagrees here, right?
I mean.
Well, I don't think.
I agree.
Wait, you agree?
I agree.
I think people take it.
Noah Wolf is super chatted.
169 New Zealand dollars and 99 cents.
Thank you, Noah.
Guy on right.
Rate every girl 1 to 10.
10 means you'd hit if you can.
1 means you would never.
So I assume that's Mick.
He's wanting me to rate all the way up.
He wants you to.
Maybe before we have you do that, we'll have you do that.
By the way, thank you for the New Zealand 169, man.
Thank you.
Stiffler, ask the ladies to rate their looks on the scale of 1 to 10.
Then, Mick, we will have you do the ratings.
Let's start with.
I don't know.
Okay, we'll just start over here.
Why not?
We're rating ourselves 1 through 10.
Wait.
Or start with.
I don't know.
Yeah, okay.
Sure.
Your looks on the scale of 1 to 10?
A 10.
I genuinely don't know.
Like, I genuinely have no idea.
Well, if you just had to throw the number out there.
Four, I guess.
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's like a seven.
Seven?
Okay.
Keely?
K-Dog?
He can't rate himself?
That's the ladies.
Okay, well, I would say seven, but sometimes ten, because I feel like, I don't know, it's you.
Seven, but sometimes ten.
Yeah.
I think like six, but like a seven on a good day.
Okay.
Yeah, I rate myself a six because I have croquettees.
I'd say six without makeup, seven with makeup.
A solid 8.3 because there's always room to be better.
Okay.
Solid 8.3.
Okay.
So 10, 4, 7.
Yeah, okay.
Mick, he wants you to rate all the girls.
So let's just try to run through it quick.
Okay, well, first off, I think all of you are lovely, and I don't want to do this, so just so you know.
But he's wanting it, and I'm full force.
My hands are tied.
I would say all of you are pretty accurate on what you gave yourself or what I would rate you.
I would say you could give yourself at least a six or seven.
You don't need to be not knowing.
I was playing a six-year-old.
I would say, you know, a nine or a ten, you know, a six or a seven.
Obviously, you're my ten, of course.
I would say like a nine.
I would say a nine.
I would say, you know, like eight and a half.
Yeah, eight and a half, like you said.
I would say about that.
What about Brian?
What's he?
I think he's a ten when it comes to men, especially because.
Oh, wait, so the girls are less than Brian.
No, no, no.
Why?
Because here's the thing.
He's successful.
He has a good beard and he dresses nice and he carries himself well.
And as a man, that's important.
It's true.
All right.
Okay, so I'm actually fascinated by the fact, though, that everybody at this table thinks that feminism is a scam.
Yeah, let's go back to that.
It really is.
Yeah, I agree with some things, right?
Like, as far as I don't believe in equality between men and women.
I believe in equity, right?
There's a difference.
So, like, there's place for women in the workplace, right?
But it's just in different areas.
Can you explain the difference to us?
What you think the difference between equality and equity is?
Yeah, so equality is like the same treatment given to like both sexes, right?
So that doesn't make any sense because are men and women the same?
Obviously not.
So equity is giving the same opportunities to equate to each person's ability.
You know, you might have them switched.
Generally speaking, equity is the end result is always the same.
So typically, countries that implement economic equity, for example, will bring the ceiling down to make sure everybody's at the same ending point.
Whereas equality is giving everyone the same opportunity and what you do with it, you can run with.
Oh, regardless of who you are.
Well, I, yeah.
But yeah, like general equity, equality, like somewhere in there.
Like, I think feminism, as far as that's concerned, like, that makes sense in certain circumstances.
Right.
So, like, if women are getting paid less in the caregiving industry because it's a caregiving is a predominantly woman field, right?
And I hate this.
Noah Morphis super chatted $169 New Zealand dollars and 99 cents.
Honestly, rate your girl.
We lost Brian for this.
Let's keep talking.
Okay.
I was going to say, we're at a good thought.
Yeah.
She's a 10.
We all are in our own way.
Where do you have an issue with modern feminism then?
Oh, I mean, definitely hookup culture.
I think feminism, like hot take, but I think feminism definitely.
Syvian super chatted $100.
Mick is the perfect example of a man-child.
This failure is entirely on him.
Big dreams, no direction.
His pattern of not making money, the entire relationship will not change and only continue if she keeps enabling him.
He's taken the easy path.
I do make money, though.
We're on feminism now, people.
Also, really quick, I did see while I was away from my chair that one of the TTS's sort of triggered but didn't get read.
Let me see if it had to say donated $100.
Mick, just Google Jobs in SP.
You can apply, get a forestry-fired job starting at $42K.
You need to get off your and apply.
Jobs are out there.
Also, Isabel, you are absolutely gorgeous.
Thank you.
It's very kind.
Sorry that it didn't trigger the first time it came through.
I'm not sure what happened there, but hey, had to say it.
Thank you for the $100 donation, man.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Okay, hookup culture.
Yeah, so hookup culture for sure.
It makes men like want to unalive themselves.
It makes women really like self-conscious.
It's a horrible thing.
You know, like, my ex has like really, really bad mental health problems.
And I think I said something on my podcast, like, don't ever date a man under 25.
It was really stupid and generalizing, but don't ever date a man under 25.
All he's looking for is sex.
Like, he's going to screw you over.
And he's like, you have to understand that when you make these generalizations about men and how men do this and men do that, like, it makes me want to unalive myself.
And the male suicide rate is freaking skyrocketing.
It is so sad.
I even want to make another episode about like men's mental health.
And I know most of this chat thinks I'm a hoe and like they don't want, like, they don't agree with me or whatever.
But regardless, I care about you guys and I want you here and alive, you know?
So I just think that males unalive rates are like not talked about enough as well.
Women too.
And what's really crazy is the CDC just put out a study a few weeks ago.
We can argue about the CDC later in the chat, just forewarning for that.
But teenage girls right now, more than ever before, are starting to struggle more than teenage boys in modern America, particularly with mental health.
So teenage girls are starting to see higher levels of anxiety, higher levels of depression.
And in 2021, one in three teenage girls seriously considered taking their own unaliving themselves because of the culture that we've created right now, which is so ironic, right?
Like, wouldn't you think that this culture that's all about women doing whatever they want and women having any pathway to success that they want to embrace?
We say that we live in this world.
And at the same time, the next generation of women, Gen Z women, are so unbelievably miserable and unhappy and discontent in today's society that they don't even want to be here.
Right.
And I will say to you, I'll say this and then I'll be quiet because I know I talk a lot.
But I, like in active addiction, I tried to unalive myself five times.
And that wasn't even substance abuse.
That was because I was convinced that no man was ever going to take me seriously or love me because all they wanted from me was sex.
Seriously.
And I said, some part of me is still convinced of that because I thought it was going to work out with this guy.
It happened to not.
But I'm holding out hope and I'm waiting.
You know what I mean?
But it's a real thing.
So, yeah.
Well, so you said that you think men might not want to take you seriously because of how many people I've slept with.
Yeah.
Okay.
You guys say that a lot on the show.
And so I was like, oh, I guess that's what guys don't want.
Well, I mean, that's kind of where I was going with it.
Because you said that your concern was men only wanting you for sex.
However, I would say that's probably not...
Thank you, Markwavius.
$100.
Mick, you're a manlet, chasing your silly dreams.
Meanwhile, she's got Demarcus making a human skin sock out of her innards.
Oh, my God.
At my boxing gym, I'll get you on the right track in under five rounds.
After that, Raggedy and Al will do exactly as you demand.
Why do you keep calling me Raggedy Ann?
You're just a hater.
Oh, well, whatever.
I think it's cute.
I have Raggedy Raggle.
I don't know what Raggedy Ann.
I was Raggedy Anna.
I'm not allowed anyone here.
I mean, I wouldn't mind going to your gym and sprawling a little bit.
I started recently taking boxing lessons and everything.
So if you want to fight, let's fight.
Oh, oh, my.
Oh.
Wait, we're going to live stream it.
Markuavius Martin versus Mick.
BD Mick.
That's fine.
As long as we have a referee, you know?
It's a pay-per-view in the works.
Wait, so you want to fight someone, babe?
Why?
What happens?
That's what men do.
We fight each other.
We fight each other.
Yo, no, Morpheus.
Thank you for the 90 New Zealand Ranga.
By the way, if somebody donates, I'm trying to think how much in New Zealand dollars.
I will do the Haka.
If it's impressive.
I'll do the Haka for $333 New Zealand dollars.
Okay, all right.
Fucking cash grab over here.
Okay.
Oh, can I say one last thing?
I feel like there's such a pressure to be perfect, and I feel like everyone should view themselves as a 10 because life is short.
Why do you have to be miserable?
Everyone deserves to be happy.
So that's why I called myself a half.
Heleni.
It's all about confidence.
Confidence will get you anywhere in life.
Anyway.
But the reason I didn't say that.
Hold on.
The reason I didn't say I was a 10 is because people will roast you in the chat if you call yourself a 10, no matter how good looking you are.
Yeah, but I don't care.
You know what?
You're right.
We're all freaking 10s up in here.
All of us are 10s, and we all deserve to be happy.
We're all beautiful.
Exactly.
Stop it.
Get some help.
Wait, so you said confidence can get you anywhere.
Absolutely.
Or what was it exactly that you said?
Confidence.
Like, confidence in general, just like, I don't know.
If you're confident about going into a job interview, you're going to get it.
If you're confident about being pretty, you're pretty.
Well, I mean, when it comes to your physical attractiveness, there is an outside component of that.
So how people view you, you know, you could, for example, like, you said just be confident.
Well, I would love to, you know, get paid tens of millions of dollars to go play in the NBA.
I don't, no matter how confident I am, that's just not going to.
I would say I'm talking more personality confidence-wise than physical appearance.
Wait, I'm confused.
You said that confidence can get you anywhere.
Yeah.
Can it, though?
What?
Like, what if someone without legs wants to, you know.
That's why I was saying not physically.
Oh, not physically.
Like personality-wise.
Like, and in your brain, if you're confident about something, like, if you're confident about getting a good grade on a test, most likely, it's kind of.
Or you could just study.
That might be.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, after you study, if you're confident about getting a good grade on a test, you're going to most likely get a good grade on that test.
What if you don't study, yet you still have confidence?
Do you think you'll still have to do that?
That's better than not having any confidence at all.
Well, I'm not sure if it would have any impact on your actual test score.
If your confidence, I don't suspect, let's say you take two people that one is a wreck and the other is confident.
I can't imagine it would have much of an impact on your test score if neither of them have studied the material.
Yeah, that's no, we're all tens, Gator.
Screw you.
I'm hot and you're not and you're just a hater and we're nephew.
Got it.
Yeah, he's hating.
He's literally hating on all of us for no reason.
My personal here and you're not.
I think everybody's beautiful, but like it is a little different when you're.
Hold on, everybody's physically beautiful.
Can we?
Okay, wait, let's go.
Can we confirm that?
Let me finish my thought.
I think everybody is beautiful in their own way, but then when we're all together, there is a difference.
It's because it looks like competition in a way.
That's what I'm saying.
The world is a competition.
It's toxic.
Very.
Like, why do we care?
Why do we even rate ourselves at all?
Who cares?
We know that there's, listen, I understand if I was an exceptionally attractive human being, I would be getting modeling contracts with Vogue.
I'm not stupid.
I don't think I'm ugly.
You know what I mean?
But like, I don't think I'm exceptionally attractive.
But, like, why does it matter?
I think students, like, judgment is there for a reason.
Yeah, but with people on their character, not how they can't control how they're going to be.
Yeah, 100%.
But again, judgment is a human characteristic, and we do it all the time.
We should try not to judge people on the way they look.
I'm just saying, though, it's a natural instinct, and we all do it.
It honestly makes you who you are.
Like, I would say for you guys as a couple, I bet you guys get judged 24-7.
They can suck it, so I'm better than them.
Yeah, exactly.
When I met her, I definitely found her to be attractive, but I still was looking for how do we connect as human beings and do we like each other's, you know, the way we're reacting?
And when we have long conversations late at night, do we get any meaning out of that?
I think men still want that connection with women.
There are certainly men out there that just want a hot girl and that's it.
Yeah, but the physical attractiveness had to come first.
Well, of course, but it's everything else that keeps the people together.
Right.
Anyone can be with the first one.
Look at Amber Heard and Johnny Deb.
She's good looking, but she's a horrible person.
Wait, what?
I'm so confused how we're talking about a penalty, right?
So just saying that, like, judgment is there for a reason.
Yeah.
You can't keep somebody with beautiful looks.
You have to have everything else.
To go to your point, not everybody is beautiful.
If we're talking about the same.
Not everybody's in a 10.
Okay, well, 100%.
But I do think that it's important for everyone to love themselves in some way, right?
Because if you're staring at yourself in the mirror and you're checking yourself out before you go into the sea of 100 attractive people, right?
You have to love yourself at some point and be like, yeah, I'm kind of cute, you know?
Yeah, what's the point of living if you're like, oh, I hate myself.
I'm not a 10.
You have to.
No, screw that.
Love yourself.
You delay yourself.
Look in the mirror.
Oh my God.
The show is not about you.
Let other people.
It's about everybody.
It's about everybody.
I like when Britney, you guys know Brittany Renner, right?
Like the infamous, you know, she's like incel nightmare.
But they like hate Brittany Renner for some reason.
But she said something that I really loved and she said, everybody is special to somebody.
You know what I mean?
Like we're all beautiful to somebody.
So therefore we're all beautiful.
Or you could have a pessimistic attitude at it and say, nobody's beautiful and nobody's special.
It's like a philosophical.
Thank you, Scott.
Shout out to the whatever podcast for everything.
A bit off course, but question to Isabel.
Having a successful career, do you believe to let your man lead the household?
Be submissive to him?
Would you forgive him if he was to cheat?
Well, those are three very distinctly different questions.
So I'll try to answer them as best as I can.
Yes, I do have a successful career.
I plan on continuing that successful career after we get married.
And as a parent, I grew up with two parents who worked in the home.
And my mom actually traveled for her job the vast majority of my childhood, like five days a week for seven years.
So I was very used to both parents taking on an active role in that capacity.
But I am extremely old-fashioned in that I do believe that my husband will be the leader of our family in many different capacities, largely spiritually and leading us in faith, which I believe to be the foundation of a marriage, of building a family, and of a relationship that lasts, which is incredibly rare these days and is something I feel incredibly lucky to be starting out in the journey for.
Second question, would I ever forgive him if he were to cheat?
Forgiveness and the health of that relationship are two different things.
Perhaps I would forgive him.
I don't think he ever would.
I have been cheated on by many significant others before I met my fiancé.
And ultimately, that always led to the demise of the relationship, and it just couldn't survive beyond that.
I am a huge monogamist at heart.
I want undying commitment from the person that I am dating and that I'm going to spend the rest of my life with.
I give that to them, and I expect that in return.
And I think our societies playing with that boundary is ultimately leading to a complete breakdown of healthy relationships.
It's why you're seeing the vast majority of Gen Z unhappy in their relationships.
It's why we have the lowest marriage rate since America began recording marriage rates in the 1860s, in the 1860s, and we have the highest divorce rate as well.
So we're unhappy when we're dating.
We're not getting married.
If we do get married, we end up getting divorced.
And as a result, Pew Research has found that our generation is just taking ourselves off the market entirely.
We decided it's not even worth it.
So I think that's a huge component.
Are you talking about that recently released data from Pew?
I mean, there's a whole bunch of data points, but the big one that I took from it was, I think it was comparing men and women between the ages of 18 to 29, and they found that women between the ages of 18 to 29 were twice as likely to be in relationships than men in a moment.
Separate study, but interesting study.
So the first one that I referenced, the majority of Gen Zers, if you are in a relationship, you are unhappy.
I think the figure from Pew, if I'm remembering correctly, and obviously I don't have it right in front of me, was about 73% of us who are dating are unhappy, really unhappy in our relationships.
Those of us who aren't dating are intentionally not putting ourselves on the dating market for either casual or committed relationships.
But the study that you're referencing was fascinating that came out a few weeks ago.
That women our age are more likely to be in relationships than men, which makes you think, who is everybody dating at the end of the day.
If the women aren't dating the men, then how did that statistic end up coming to fruition?
What crosses my mind is I think there's perhaps two explanations.
One, women in that age group are dating older men, 30 to 40.
But I think the bigger thing is, is that women are maybe think they're in relationships or are in a relationship and they're sharing higher quality guys.
So, and there's this concept called hypergamy.
Women are all chasing after the top tier of men.
So a lot of women are happier sharing a top tier guy than settling for a guy that's actually on their level.
So, oh, so I was going to say, I agree with you.
I like, I think I made like a TikTok the other day that was like, get yourself an average man, ladies, or something like that.
Because like the majority of your audience, I would say, is average males, right?
We're some chads.
Well, yeah.
But it's very rare.
It's like, what, less than 5% of men are making like 100 grand a year in America or something like that?
Like, it's really low.
So most people are average.
Yeah, yeah, just average.
Like, so I think we need to normalize the fact that like if you get in a relationship, he doesn't have to be making the same or more money than you, right?
Because that's true equality and like equity or whatever, however you want to phrase it.
It's about what you give to the relationship.
And so whether that means that you're a stay-at-home mom and he's out there working full-time or vice versa, it's about like everybody doing their part, whether you're man or woman, whatever role you want to play.
Yeah, but here's the problem is that you basically what you have going on in the dating marketplace is average women don't want average guys.
And I'm encouraging them to.
That's what my podcast is about.
Draw me crazy.
Why wouldn't average women just decide to stop being average ourselves and raise the standards for what we expect from the men that we're dating?
Sorry, explain that woman.
Rather than settling for an average guy, why wouldn't we just demand more from the men that we're dating?
Because it's very hard for a certain men like that.
Men respond extremely well to boundaries.
They do, psychologically.
If you set a boundary for a man, either intentionally or unintentionally, he will honor that boundary.
For example, if you let him continue getting away with cheating on you and being half in, half out of a relationship, being a situation ship for months upon months upon months without ever committing to you or wanting to put a label on things, that's a boundary that you've set, saying it's acceptable for me to be treated that way.
Why wouldn't we as women actual feminism, I suppose, to be theoretical about this, demand more from the men that we're spending our lives with?
I agree.
And I think, like, here's where the problem lies, right?
Men end up leaving because if they, that girl that's demanding respect and demanding boundaries, now she becomes high maintenance to them.
This is, again, I'm not even, I'm speaking anecdotally, but I've heard this from men before.
Now she's becomes high maintenance, so they're leaving and they're going to find somebody that just says yes all the time.
So what if we all did it?
I hear all the time, all men want our sex.
All men want a sex.
All men wanted sexual partners.
What if we as women just said, you know, we're not okay with that anymore?
Holocyst.
We want more.
Wouldn't that force men to rise to that occasion?
And similarly, men who might be listening to this, you should be going after women who expect those boundaries because a rising tide lifts all ships and that's going to be a problem.
Well, the genie is out of the bottle.
I mean, I think we can say in an ideal world, wouldn't it be fantastic if we did away with hookup culture?
And I think that is desirable, but I don't think, you know, I think the culture war has honestly been lost to decadence and degeneracy.
So, like, so there's no hope.
I mean, I think the culture war has been lost because you have academia, you have journalism, you have the mainstream media, which is all basically very, and without really going so much into politics, it's very left-leaning.
You know, every single university in the country has a feminist studies, a gender studies, a woman's studies program.
I mean, well, now this is getting into men's rights.
There's no equivalent men's studies or men's rights things in education.
We're two blocks away from UCSP.
University of California, Santa Barbara.
It's frequently ranked the number one party school in the U.S. Major hookup culture here.
And I would say across most universities and colleges, there is a major hookup culture.
And then beyond college, there's a major hookup culture where it's just casual sex, situation ships, all this stuff.
I don't think, I really think it's going to be a challenge to walk that back.
I don't see.
How about instead of walking it back, we as a generation and as a society acknowledge we are at the end of our rope, that we've never struggled more as a society from a cultural perspective than we are right now, despite living in arguably the most progressive and advanced society ever.
We're miserable.
So much so that a third of us as women in our teenage years and a significantly higher portion of men in their young adult years say we don't even want to be here at all.
So maybe rather than walking back, we choose a new path forward.
Well, but so, and you consider yourself pretty conservative, right?
Yeah.
Secrets out.
I'm extremely conservative.
Yeah.
I mean, one thing that occurred to me is, I mean, social media and dating apps, I think that these are majorly at the forefront of hookup culture, all this stuff.
So government intervention, like, how do you unwind the damage that social media and dating apps has done?
Well, that's the problem.
You can't unwind, in my opinion.
And this is the really hard reality of where we go from here.
I work a lot with generations older than us, and I cannot tell you how often every day I hear Gen Z is beyond all hope, Gen Z is destroying America, your generation will be the end of us.
When in reality, somebody else built this world that we have grown up in and have really struggled to come into adulthood in and now has been dropped in our laps, and we have no idea what to do with it moving forward.
Technology is a quintessential experience of what our day-to-day life is like, what reality is like.
It involves our school, our jobs, our dating relationships, our sex is happening online.
Let's just be totally honest.
We've had a really long conversation about that on this podcast.
I don't know that you can walk it back.
I think we as a society would have to come to a cultural conversation point and change minds and culture from the inside out rather than regulatory measures to do that by saying this is not working.
We need to do more.
I sound crazy that I'm like one of the only people in my own life that has never downloaded a dating app, nor have I ever wanted to.
I've never had a desire to.
I don't seek out opportunities to watch adult content.
I don't surround myself with opportunities to do that because I've set a different standard for my life and encouraged the other people in my life to do that as well.
Imagine if we all banded together, regardless of politics, where everybody is seeking to divide us on this issue, and start today by saying this is not working.
Generation Z is falling apart at the seams.
And clearly, our dating life is a great place to start that needs more help than almost any other aspect of our culture.
What can we do differently, returning to traditional values, but in a new way that would take us to a stronger future?
I don't think it can be undone, honestly.
I think it's just going to be the status quo.
I mean, I just, you have basically the destruction of the nuclear family.
That's gone.
You have feminism.
It's not gone yet.
People are attempting to.
It's not gone, but I mean, isn't it the majority of people are being raised in single mother households?
People say it's acceptable.
The majority of Americans say it's acceptable for people to do.
Well, that in the study of single mother, single mother households, I mean, you're like 75% or something like that, more likely to drop out of high school, like, you know, more percentage like to go or get arrested, like all that kind of stuff.
Like, single mother households are like not good for kids.
They're just not.
I understand there's circumstances where some men leave and there's nothing you can do about it, but that's the thing.
Like, that's why I'm divided on that issue because if we make this general statement, like, you know, keep the nuclear family together, but if he leaves, it's how is it her fault?
You know?
And then you could say, like, well, she picked a bad guy, but you're ideal and unideal circumstances.
Right.
But I guess just more generally, not pigeonholing ourselves in the single parent household conversation.
I'm curious what all of you would say.
Do you think that our generation is happy?
Do you think that we're thriving?
Do you think that this progressive society that we've spent so many decades trying to build a utopia to live in is working?
I don't think any previous generations were either happy.
I wouldn't say happy either.
Like, obviously, Gen Z's, like, hookup culture, blah, blah, blah.
They're so blindsided by that, but it's because it's just like occupying them.
Like, living in a college town, living here in Isla Vista, I go out, I see people have meaningless hookups, all this stuff.
But to them, it just like that's what college to them is about.
And that is kind of like ingrained into their minds from previous generations of people, too.
So how do we stop it?
We can't.
Yeah, I want to have faith.
We can like do a drastic turnaround, but I don't think it is.
The internet in itself, there's so much privacy of what somebody could do on their phone anyway that like I think we're too far gone, honestly.
Also, genuinely believe that people don't care anymore.
Yeah, well, one, I think one big issue is, so let's talk a little bit about divorce too.
So I think there's really two solutions to the divorce issue is either the okay, so men are disincentivized to get married because of the financial risks that are involved.
And, you know, men are waking up to the fact that 50% of marriages end a divorce, 80% of marriages are initiated, or sorry, excuse me, 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
So one of two things or both things have to happen.
Either we as a society, we need to re-stigmatize getting divorced, which right now there's no longer any social stigma.
There used to be.
There's no longer any social repercussions to getting divorced.
That's not going to happen.
So the only thing that can happen is we need to change the marriage laws to re-incentivize men to want to get married.
So there needs to, there can no longer be, and that might come to the detriment of some women because a woman who does fully sacrifice her career to raise a family, there is to some degree a legitimate argument to be made to continue supporting her in the event of a divorce.
However, I mean, I don't want to get too far down that.
There are some arguments to be made there.
There are definitely arguments for child support because it's for the benefit of the child.
However, the way it's currently is women are incentivized to get divorced because there's a financial reward.
So you never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it.
And if the male's a breadwinner, the woman's not, and there's a dispute in the relationship, it can be very tempting to be like, well, if I divorce him, I get this much money and I don't have to deal with him anymore.
So I think that probably the marriage laws have to be rewritten.
However, go ahead.
I was going to say, so the law doesn't specifically say, you know, women get all the money in divorce, right?
It says whoever is making the most income is getting alimony.
So yes, if the woman's, you're right.
If the woman's the breadwinner, then and she gets divorced, if she gets divorced, then she might be paying alimony payments to the men.
However, the stats also further show, I think it's like 97, it's either 90 or 97% of alimony payments go from men to women.
So there's that.
And then it's pseudo native 19.
Yo, thank you, man.
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Do buy oil geek slash prince, by the way.
You're an oil geek prince, by the way.
Hold on, I got something for you.
I drink your milkshake.
Favorite movie.
I drink it up.
Yo, thank you, man.
What was it?
A million a month?
He said?
Million a month?
Will get you any girl in the U.S.?
I think you need more than just money.
Yeah, you need more than just money in the U.S. Bro, you need an entire package in the U.S., I think.
Okay, so to bring it back, we were talking about marriage.
So, shit, I. Divorce.
Divorce.
Oh, yeah, I think 97% of alimony payments go from men to women.
But in addition to that, even if whether it's the man's the breadwinner, the woman's the breadwinner, there's a bias in the court system against men.
So I mean, I don't know if they've done studies on this, but I'd be curious to say if even in situations where the woman's the breadwinner, if there's a little more leniency, perhaps men are less likely to seek alimony.
I'm not entirely sure on all those details, but there's 100% of bias in family court systems when it comes to child custody and when it comes to alimony.
Well, I think it depends on where you live, right?
Like if you're living in a predominantly conservative area in America, like Mississippi, or like places where I'll just say women's reproductive rights aren't legal, I think they usually side with the men.
No.
Honestly, in some ways, this is like kind of a little advanced take on this.
Feminism and conservative conservatives have a few things in common.
Women need to be protected.
Like, there are, it's a different, I'm not sure exactly how to articulate this, but whatever state you're in, there's a bias against men in the court system.
Doesn't matter what state.
It's worse in liberal states, but there is a bias against men in the court system.
So I agree.
Like, I grew up with a single dad for a little bit, right?
My mom was like, she had her own issues.
And so I had a very strong relationship with my dad.
My dad's like my best friend.
So.
Oh, is there a problem?
It's about to come in.
So, yes.
So he got screwed over by the court system plenty of times.
He tried to file a no contact order against her, all this kind of stuff, got denied, got denied, got denied.
So I agree that there's like a stigma, but wouldn't like, I don't agree with any extremes for anything, but in that scenario, I'd rather have, this is going to sound so horrible, but I'm going to have to get a $100.
As a high-value man myself, I do not want a woman who has slept around.
I want a woman who does not party.
I want a wife not a 300 and 4 party girl.
Your past may be in the past, but that past will tell your future partner what you are capable of.
So can I respond to that?
Yeah, I think there's a double up here.
So maybe just hold up.
Speedy, thank you so much for the $100.
Oh, thank you, man.
So confused, super chatted.
$100.
I'm a college professor 33, 6 to 1.
I'm successful, have a house, honestly speaking, could work on myself a little bit.
What do you women want?
Also, I won't get married without a prenuptial agreement.
Also, great show.
What do women want?
Oh, also, as far as the prenups, just, I mean, they're not bulletproof.
Just letting you know.
Just be cognizant of that.
Yeah, I was going to say, just really quick to that.
If my past predicted my future, why wouldn't I relapse?
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
People can change.
People are, we're human beings.
We have issues.
My ex also sold drugs in his past, but does that make him like a bad person today?
No.
You know, people make mistakes.
So, I don't know.
Are you referencing the fact that you have a high body count?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So that's just my point.
People can change, but because of your high body count and your previous sexual addiction, that might be a reason or reasons why a man might want to disqualify you or preclude you, preclude pursuing you because of that.
And that's fine.
That's their personal preference.
But if you're going to use my past against me and say that, you know, like I can no longer emotionally connect with a man because I've done this, this, and this with however many people, that's just not true.
I feel like when I look at a man that I'm in love with to this day, I still feel, I just personal experience, I just don't feel that way.
But the thing is, is that, I mean, sure, that could be the case, but I mean, they've done their studies on this.
CDC did the study on this.
I mean, the more premarital sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of infidelity, the greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction, the greater likelihood of divorce, greater likelihood of STD, greater likelihood of, let's see, what else?
You have a more difficult time pair bonding.
Right.
So, but did they do that study with women that were consistently sleeping with multiple and multiple men?
Or did they do that study with women that like slept with like 50 dudes like one year and then they held off for like two years straight?
Because I feel like the longer as time goes on, my body's kind of like reset itself.
It's like I'm getting sober again.
You know what I mean?
I'm finally seeing with like a clearer head and not having to sexualize everybody all the time.
Because I sexualize women just as much as I did men.
Like it was always a competition thing, right?
Because I was trying to have sex.
So, but regardless, you know what I mean?
Well, I don't know if this is, and then this just occurred to me, so I don't know if it's an if it's a perfect analogy, but you mentioned, well, what if, you know, how soon after the promiscuity, so to speak, did they do the study?
I'm not sure on that, but I, this might not be an apt analogy.
I think take cigarette smokers, for example.
So if someone's just constantly smoking every single day and then you do a study on their lungs or something, this might be, this might not even make sense.
You do a study on their lungs and they just smoked a pack yesterday, you know, maybe there's going to be something there.
But then if they cease smoking, say for two years, I think there is some degree of regeneration that your lungs can undertake.
However, your lungs will still be fucked up.
There is some permanent damage there that's not going to be undone.
Yeah.
And I'm just, listen, again, I'm not looking for a high-value man.
You know what I mean?
I'm typically, I would probably find somebody within my league, like somebody who's in recovery, somebody who knows how, even then, like some people still can't understand sex addiction.
They don't even think it's a real thing.
But like somebody who's in that field.
So I think generally in life, people date within their leagues.
I don't think men date down or anything like that.
Actually, well, men, I would say men do date.
I don't think they well, why are like models marrying with athletes?
And like, why are celebrities marrying celebrities?
You know what I mean?
Or models marrying presidents, or you could say, you know, that people date generally within their social class or league.
Well, I mean, there's generally speaking, I say men date across and down socioeconomic hierarchies.
Women date across and up socioeconomic hierarchies.
I mean, I don't know.
It's just my opinion.
Not only date, but men will sleep down.
Most women won't sleep down.
Yeah, men will sleep down for sure, but I don't know.
I just men date down too.
I don't think so.
Men date down?
Yeah.
No.
It's way harder for men to get women than the reverse.
I also tell you, I've like flirted with guys that I know are out of my league and they don't want anything to do with me.
Yeah.
So they don't date down.
Well, it's not a guarantee that all men are going to, but I would say generally speaking, men will date down.
Oh, are you talking about social class or attractiveness?
Both.
Oh, men.
Men will definitely.
Okay, men definitely date down social class.
A man who's a doctor, a man who's an attorney will date a barista.
A female attorney, a female doctor, she's probably not looking a barista's way.
I don't know.
Attractiveness, that's a bit.
I'd say men still date down on that realm, but that I mean.
No way, dude.
No, come on, Brian.
You can't be pulling my leg like that.
Well, here.
I think they'll screw down.
I think they'll screw one.
You know how many, I've had like Instagram male models drive all the way up from LA to like my house to come get it on with me.
But would he ever date me?
No.
Okay, that's a fair point.
Yes.
Right.
A lot of men will sleep points down.
You know, if you think of their equivalent attractiveness level, yeah, they'll sleep down for sure.
But you're right that in terms of getting commitment from that guy, no.
There you go.
No, so yes, you're right.
But I would say, but here's the thing, though, is women don't sleep down looks either, generally speaking.
I would say, and look, obviously there's outliers.
Some chick might be drunk and she hooks up some people.
Well, she will if she's into the guy, right?
Like if she has an opening.
Okay, but yeah, so a guy can make up for it in other ways through status, money, and personality.
So if charismatic, men can make up for their bad looks in other ways.
Whereas I think women, you know, even if you've got a great personality, it's not going to shift that much in terms of the kind of sexual pull that or relationship pull that you can get from men.
However, for a woman to sleep with a guy, he needs to be at least attractive enough for her to consider being in a relationship with him.
And when I say attractive, at least attractive enough, physically attractive enough.
Oh, yeah, I agree then.
He has to at least be physically attractive enough for her to consider being in a relationship with.
Whereas for men, it's the opposite.
Men will sleep with women in terms of their physical appearance that they would never consider being in a relationship with.
Right, but you said that men date down as far as women's appearance.
They still do.
Because some men, yeah, because some men, like, yeah, men, men don't have a lot of options.
So women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they can.
So, and a lot of guys in the space.
Sleep or daint.
Well, a lot of guys in this space say women control access to sex, men control access to relationship.
Right.
I disagree with that.
Only the top tier men control access to relationships.
Women still have the power in both of those because most men, like a lot of men, really struggle to get women, whether that's even to sleep with or, by the way, the computer's going to go black.
Don't worry about it.
Whether that's to sleep with or to get a relationship with.
Right.
So.
But at the same time, like, sorry, I lost my train of thought.
It's all good.
Yeah, you can come back to me.
I'm sorry.
Did you want to come in on something?
Yeah, I feel like that goes both ways.
Like, speaking for all of us, like, for example, like, you're not going to walk up to a not that pretty girl and talk to her.
As a guy?
As a guy, yeah.
Have you heard of 2 a.m.?
I mean, but like remain pretty much.
Yeah.
No, I mean, well, like, relationship-wise, okay, hookup-wise, maybe, yeah.
But relationship-wise, you're not going to, like, be at a bar and walk up to an ugly girl trying to be in a relationship with her.
You're going to walk up to the prettiest girl that you see in the bar going for girls too.
You're going to walk up to the most attractive guy you see in the bar.
Like, everything happens.
First, initially, I believe is based off appearance.
I would actually disagree.
Like, when you say guys go up to the most attractive girl, I actually think it's kind of more like the average, maybe like above-average girls that actually get the most attention because most guys see like the really, really, really hot girl.
And some guys actually might be like, I got no chance.
So, they're actually the girls who are like sevens and sixes and like, bro, those are the girls that are putting the numbers for sure.
Well, I guess just like what, what's attractive to you, like as a person.
Yeah, but I mean, I think, and actually, I think women can make up for it, their looks in some ways, and that, and that's by being feminine, submissive.
Like, if a girl like can bring you peace, I think most men would sacrifice on the looks front if she brings you peace.
She's feminine, she's submissive.
So, I think a lot of men would like, I think you asked most men, would you rather have like a chick who's a nine who's a smokeshow who's an absolute babe, but she's fucking bitch and just, you know, masculine and uncooperative and all this stuff and promiscuous.
That's the other thing.
If men will men will, how do I word this?
If, if you're if you have a low body count or if you're a virgin or you have a low body count, men will will, that can bump you up in terms of your attractiveness, attractiveness to a guy.
I think that goes both ways, though.
With women, like women want a guy who, I mean, it's better than having a high body count for sure.
Well, I think some women do have that position.
Like, some women obviously don't want a guy who's promiscuous.
However, a lot of women, and I think this is a bit more of a tame panel, but a lot of women will say, I don't care about body count, body count doesn't matter, blah, blah, blah.
Like, it's not a thing to them.
And because men and women kind of value different things, I think, I do think it's 100% something that some women do care about.
However, I think it comes down to experience and women value experience.
Thank you, man.
You've shut down Keely Rose.
I know this is not specifically her episode slash podcast, but she gives a lot of points, even though I might not agree with them all.
Did I shut you down?
I haven't even spoken for the last 20 minutes, so I mean, the reason I told you to just because she was talking and we can't have two microphones at a time.
Some people talk too much, and I just get very passionate.
I've been quiet.
No, it's all good.
We spent some time talking about your situation, so that's all good.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I remember what I was going to say.
So like, as far as like men, so men talk about the friend zone a lot, right?
Yeah.
Because you said that men will date, you know, whoever they can for the most part.
Men will date whoever.
So they talk about being stuck in the friend zone, but we never talk about like the fuck zone that women get stuck in.
You know how many times?
Because again, I've slept with 134 people.
I thought it was 136.
I put down those.
I have my notes.
Oh, sorry, Brian.
Sure.
Okay, so go ahead.
So, yeah, but again, men have this like list or ladder of women that they'd sleep with, but they would never date ever, And they lead these women on into thinking that they will so that they can keep sleeping with them and keep them in this ladder.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think it happens equally, but like perpetuating the notion that like men constantly get stuck in the friend zone and women have all the advantages and that, you know, they can't, that it's not equalized.
It's just not true.
What's not one thing really quick here?
I will get to your point.
Yo, what's up, Big Moe?
Yo, can we get some W's in the chat for Big Mo?
Yo, Big Mo, he helps out with FNF.
Big Mo's a fucking legend.
By the way, Big Mo, if you're ever in California, please let me know.
We'll get you on the show, dude.
Major love for you.
This guy's awesome.
Big love for Big Mo.
And yeah, W's in the chat for Big Mo, guys.
And let me do a quick Twitch shout out really quick and we will come back to your point.
Eric, come pull up the Twitch.
Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
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Pull up another tab.
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And if you have a Prime sub, drop us a Prime sub.
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Oh my God, the chat is on fire.
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Thank you guys so much.
Neo Magic, thank you for the follow.
Thank you guys so much.
Okay, back to your point.
Go ahead.
Sorry to cut you off there.
I just had a big Mo in the chat.
Yeah, I think I was talking about like the fuck zone compared to the friend zone, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, so like everybody, like men and women have equal amount of struggle, I think.
It's just a matter of perspective.
You're living as a man, so you can't see what struggles we go through.
We are constantly trying to get taken seriously in the workplace, and we don't know if guys are like friends with us in the workplace or giving us advantages, I mean, in the workplace, if it's because we're attractive and they're trying to have sex with us, or if it's because we're actually doing a good job and getting promoted.
Well, okay, so just to address the friend zone, fuck zone thing.
I mean, I don't think those two are necessarily equal.
And here's why, is because I would say like 80, 90% of men, even like some top-tier dudes, get friend zoned.
Most men have the experience of being in the friend zone.
And they get that treatment from most women.
However, women who get fuck zoned get that treatment from a much smaller proportion of men.
Most men, most women can friend zone most men.
Most women, sorry, hold on.
Most geez, I got this.
Most women can friend zone most men, but most men cannot fuck zone most women.
The men who fuck zone women are the top 10, top 20% of men.
I disagree.
I don't know if I agree with that.
Yeah.
It is the end of the season.
I agree.
At the end of the day, everybody wants sex, right?
It's a natural human emotion.
Everybody has it.
It's just in a way and a matter of how much you have it and like who you're having it with.
Do you think that you have a right to sex?
Like to have me personally?
Yeah, do you have a right to have sex?
Yeah.
What makes you say that?
Because it's my reproductive right.
It was given to me to do to have children.
What's the purpose of sex?
To have children.
And I would argue emotionally.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, Marquavius.
Maybe concepts.
Biology doesn't apply to me.
I'm special.
We can eradicate evil from planet Earth.
Vibes, signs, energy, astrology, manifestation.
Latitude 34 degrees north, longitude 119 degrees west.
Just giving the asteroid the GPS coordinates for the valley location.
There it is.
The asteroid.
Boom.
So, arguably, sex has two purposes.
A, create new human life, which I think our society has forgotten about.
B, emotionally bond with the person that you're having sex with.
That's what your brain is designed to do.
Every time that you have sexual intercourse, your brain releases oxytocin and it makes you feel emotionally bonded to that person, which is why hookup culture is so damaging because it's not transactional.
It's not supposed to be transactional.
It's supposed to be bonding.
To suggest that we have a right to have sex, then, is to suggest that it's our way or the highway all the time and our emotional needs are more important than anything else for another human being.
I think that line of thinking is what's led to an extremely pro-abortion culture.
I think that's what's led to an extremely pro-hookup culture.
I think that's what's led to women being stuck in this zone and men being stuck in a zone of not being able to have a meaningful connection with their sexual partner or their emotional partner, right?
We're just constantly giving half of ourselves all the time.
I would argue we don't have a right to have sex.
It's a privilege.
It's a gift that we've been given from God, but it's not an inherent human right.
Well, yeah, so on the basis of that, I'm all about, like, accountability for both sides, right?
Because I've heard the statement from, like, the right that women don't have to take accountability anymore if they, you know.
Who says that?
What's her name?
Oh, God, who is it?
That super conservative red-headed girl.
I can't remember her.
Pearl.
Pearl, that's her name.
Yeah.
She constantly says that bullshit, but it's not true.
Yo, thank you, Ash.
It wasn't meant as disrespect.
I want to hear you talk more.
I want to hear all you ladies and guys talk a lot.
It is a podcast.
Yeah, agree.
Everybody jump in.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Actually, so maybe we can come back to that.
You said you got your neck tattoo at a woman's what?
At a woman's retreat.
Was it like a feminist thing?
I don't know.
Okay.
Because you said you weren't a fan of feminism, correct?
Because I was like concerned there.
Like, what if you got brainwashed to getting a neck tattoo at this like feminist shit?
And you're like, fuck.
No.
But you like the tattoo.
Yes.
It's kind of like a rites of passage tattoo almost.
Is it like Native American?
Yeah, it stems from like indigenous schoolism.
Okay.
Gotcha.
I was just curious.
I was trying to loop you into the conversation a little bit there.
Okay.
Let me get these two really quick.
We have average Oregon earner.
Thank you, man.
As a fit five foot five foot ten man who is an average earner, all I want is a traditional woman who's morally Christian and the virgin.
It's now unrealistic for me to find that.
So why date other than to just get laid?
Self-improvement is now my life.
Hashtag passport bros.
So your standards are too high.
What does that mean?
Not exactly.
Like you could find a virgin Christian woman if you really tried.
Yeah, you could.
It's tough.
You could, but guess what?
What's that?
What about go to church?
Go to church.
Born again.
Virgin Christian woman right now.
Virgin Christian woman right here.
Hey, are the DMs open for Oregon?
Average Oregon earner?
She's 5'10.
Aren't you from New York, though?
Where did you come from?
South Carolina.
Oh, she's in the SC.
Okay.
Well, by the way, okay, well, 5'10, I think.
Average earned?
No, it's fine.
I think it's a completely normal standard.
Like, I don't think his standards are too high.
Oh, sorry, go ahead.
I think it's hard, very, very hard for him to find what he's looking for, but good point.
Good differentiation.
We're the ones that our society that we're in right now is the ones that created the idea that that's unrealistic.
That should be realistic.
Holy shit.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
$1,000, dude?
Wait, hold on, let me.
Well, you have to do it now.
And he did it.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on.
Let me pull up a video.
Hold on.
More than that.
All right, I'm going to do the haka.
Continue with your point while I find the.
I need it playing while I do it.
I got what I was saying.
Yeah, okay.
Honestly, like, the reason why we're even living in the world that we live in today is because there's too much brokenness and we continue to go to our vices.
Like, for example, your previous sex addiction.
SA.
Or, wait, yeah.
No.
Like, that was due to brokenness that was deep within, right?
Like, like, you weren't happy and you decided to, you know, get into that addiction, right?
Right, right.
Right, so it comes from an emotional place.
And the fact that we live, like, most of I think it's 50% of teenagers, they live in a single parent household.
That is like a setup for disaster.
Like, that's automatically, especially if it's a single mother and she's raising daughters.
That daughter is going to grow up looking for validation from other men.
Like, again and again and again and again.
And it all stands for brokenness.
And we're not looking in the right places to actually be healed of that brokenness.
Yeah, I agree with that.
As far as his standards are concerned, there's nothing wrong with being a virgin and Christian, right?
And there's nothing wrong with wanting that.
I'm just saying it's improbable if you're not.
This sounds terrible, but if we're living in this world, like in this type of reality, it's improbable if you're not making enough money for that.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're saying, because women like that typically look for a man that's making enough substantially so that she can be submissive.
So it just doesn't make any sense.
Are you okay?
He's struggling with that.
Bro, I didn't think anybody would do it.
This guy drops $1,000 for me to do that.
You have to now $1,000.
Do I have to stand?
Do I have to stand that?
You have to put men on your way.
Hold on, let me button this up.
Continue talking.
Wait, so when you say you're a virgin, though, like born again or like 100% a virgin, always like from Super chatted $19.99.
Work culture says it's wrong.
I can't believe I'm confusion associated with this also has to do with the idea that the only way to be submissive to your husband is to have him make more money than you.
Like, we've repeated that throughout the conversation.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that women aren't going to want to do that for a man because the definition of submission, right, is giving your is being inferior to a superior, right?
It's authoritative.
I don't know that it's about inferiority.
I think it's about being servant to the person, giving service love to the person that you've dedicated your life to.
I mean, we're called to lay down our lives for each other.
It's not just about women being inferior to men.
I think that's what culture says it is.
Well, the definition of submission is reporting to an authoritative figure, right?
So that automatically makes the man, no matter how much money he makes, no matter how much he works.
I can't do it on the table, but I will do it.
All right.
This is going to be so fucking cringe.
Oh, my God.
All right.
I did say I would do it.
Okay.
Let me just see if this is going to.
Eric, can you pull up the chat?
So I just need to ask the chat a question if they're going to be able to hear this.
Actually, Eric, can you open up another tab, YouTube?
Because I'm going to do it along with the all blacks.
Wow.
We won't, don't show that on the monitor, but pull up search in YouTube, Kamate.
KA.
Actually, wait, here, let me send you the video.
Eric, I'm going to send the video.
Sorry.
Hold one sec, guys.
Continue talking about virginity or whatever.
Oh, my God.
You guys are crazy.
Wait, Eric, hold on.
Bro, these guys got us.
You guys got us to 106,000 followers.
How's that even possible?
Yo, oh my God.
Yo.
On Instagram.
On Instagram.
There hasn't even been that many.
Well, thank you, guys.
Appreciate it.
Oh, my God.
Well, don't show.
Here, I'm going to message it to ourselves, Eric, so don't show that.
All right.
Wait.
Jesus Christ, I can't.
That's not.
Yeah, it's not sending.
Hold on.
Okay, yeah, pull up a YouTube tab.
Search Kamate.
Jesus.
This stream has been derailed many times.
Okay.
So, not born again.
No.
Not born again.
I am a born-again Christian, but not a born-again virgin.
Okay, but you're a virgin.
Are you waiting until marriage?
100%.
100%.
Anybody else here, virgin?
Just kidding.
Well, born again.
Eric, search KA spit comate.
Well, I need to give you the right one.
It's the shit.
I just had it too.
Guys, someone donated $1,000, so I'm doing the all-blacks haka.
I'm doing the kamate.
Tipoke Smith don't have a title.
Table now.
I'm sorry, I can't do it.
They really want you to do this on the table.
I think you should.
Off the table's not strong enough.
I just fucking had it, but now it's gone.
Hold on.
Wait, it's the, wait, no, a space between committee, Eric.
You can show it on here.
Show it on the stream.
That's fine.
I can't do the table.
I'm sorry, guys.
I got back problems.
Yeah, search that.
It should be scroll down.
The all blacks, I think that one.
Alright.
Or maybe it's this one.
Hold on.
Here, no, do.
Okay, do the.
Go up.
Go up.
Yeah, do the second one down.
Oh, God, I can't believe I'm fucking doing this.
Okay.
Oh, great.
What?
Wait, you have to do a two-arrow?
Kill him.
Ah, jeez.
Why do I?
I gotta never say that again.
Oh, scuffed.
Wait, what?
Here, put in centers.
Go full out.
Well, he said, full send.
300.
Alright, here we go.
Scuffed.
Scuff left.
Sorry, guys.
Computer issues.
Welcome to the whatever podcast professionalism.
Okay, here we go.
Alright, so they can't just keep it.
I guess keep it.
No, that's not going to work.
How am I going to do this?
Tomorrow.
And they're not going to even hear me.
I need you to move the tab over there.
Wait, how am I going to move the tab?
There you go.
Here.
But I need space for this.
Like, I need space.
You want to swim?
Swim.
Yeah, maybe.
Alright, yeah, I need this whole area.
The whole area.
Alright, guys.
Brian, you know what I couldn't do?
What could you do?
Is it do this?
Nah, we're good.
And just make this bigger.
No, don't, Control Z, don't fuck with that.
Oh, make it bigger?
I can just make it bigger.
Just a little bit bigger and put it back to the original.
Come on.
I don't know if we can have a background.
I don't know.
Am I doing this?
Ah, fuck.
I don't know how we're gonna set it.
Make this just a little bit bigger.
Alright, well, but I need to see it.
Here, just we'll keep it.
We'll keep it like this.
Or actually, wait.
Did we do it?
No, we'll do it like this.
I should have worn my.
These are my baggy fucking sweatpants too.
I should have worn the better ones.
Okay.
But pull over the window so I can see it.
Sorry, guys.
Fucking scuff.
Like, so it's on this monitor, so just pull it up here and we'll keep it centered.
But make it big.
I need just the whole screen, or half the screen.
Yeah, that works.
Alright, so, bro, he's probably going to do Charge Back, too, after this.
Okay.
Alright, I'm ready.
This is so cringe, bro.
You did it to yourself!
Lower the volume.
Alright, loads of them.
New Zealanders in the chat, you should critique this whole thing.
Oh my god.
Cancel me.
A for effort.
Oh, my God.
I'm sorry. That was so bad.
It was so bad.
They like it.
Is that cool?
People like it.
Is that cultural appropriation, by the way?
Yeah, Frankie in the chat says that's cultural appropriation.
Rate his performance.
It was so it was like bad.
Everyone's praising me.
I should have just done it without even the video because I know that shit memorized.
I think the video might have messed you up a little.
Was it okay, guys?
Was it cultural appropriation?
Somebody said what I'm making up.
Someone said he got a Polynesian pass.
Am I canceled?
Brian can never judge Keely again.
Oh, God.
Bro, what?
I should have done it without the video because I know that shit memorized.
I'm like, I'm a rugby fan, dude.
Look, Rugby World Cup 2011, New Zealand.
But I'll do it again if you, without the, without the video, if you donate another.
Okay.
Just saying.
I'll do it again, but better this time.
Okay.
What the fuck we were talking about?
Virginia or some shit?
Sock check.
Oh, yeah.
Like what a man is entitled to in a relationship, right?
So if he, if we're making equal to or I'm making more money than him, or not, no, I won't even say equal to.
If I'm contributing more money than him, which I've done with all my ex-boyfriends, right?
Which I'll give the example, like, doesn't happen very often, but there's nothing other than by virtue of him being.
Dakota B super chatted $99.99.
I definitely agree, Brain.
I've definitely settled looking at the size and status-wise in my past relationships, even considering the growth I've gone through.
Also, love the pub that was the greatest thing ever, Brian.
Are you talking about the Haka?
Talking about the Haka?
For what?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Hey, Dakada, thank you so much, man.
Honestly, I could have done a much better job, you know, but I was like, I was like, you know, I was a little nervous, you know?
Because it's like, I got like all these like chicks here and like Kiki and like the dude over there.
It's like, you know, it's like kind of nerve-wracking to like culturally appropriate in front of like 7,000 people, you know?
It's great.
Now I'm like culturally appropriating Canada.
Okay.
All right.
Anyways, anyways.
So that makes it to where by virtue of him just being born a man and being in a heterosexual relationship with me, he is entitled to my submission, right?
So if he's not fulfilling his traditional role as a man and providing, why am I going to fill my traditional role?
You're way too far from the microphone.
Oh, sorry.
Why am I going to fill my traditional role as a woman and submit?
You know what I mean?
It's not a fair.
I believe in like respect, absolutely.
Like, I believe you should respect your partner all the time, healthy communication, all that good stuff.
But as far as submission, that undermines my authority with our children.
That means that like that he has the final say, so I can't, you know, I might not be able to go out.
You know, I just don't like it.
I would choose a man that I would want to submit to.
Yeah.
So like that's what I'm doing.
Like I'm not, I'm going to choose a man that I would be happy to submit to.
After you saw my Haka performance, like submission right away.
Are you like, did that get you a little excited?
If we're all tens here, then that was a 10, but that's not true.
i guess i'm gonna attend sir ash donated one hundred dollars how much to have you to work wait i correct myself to work passionately To have me twerk?
I don't even think I can do it.
I don't know how to twerk.
I can't.
I don't dance, so I don't know how to do that shit.
But I'll do a feet check for like $1,000, probably.
If you want foot check, feet picks?
You know what's fucking crazy, dude?
There is literally a...
Frankie K super chatted $100.
Sorry, Frankie.
This is just to cut off Pinky.
Oh, it did not work.
Yeah, you missed it.
You'll have to try again.
There's actually literally a website called like It's like Feet Finder or some shit.
And they, bro, they got a fucking account on me.
Someone's pretending to be you?
No, no, no, no.
Like talking about Wiki feet?
I think it's WikiFeet, dude.
Yo, I love WikiFeet.
She has like five stars.
You do?
I'm so tired.
Bro, this shit's crazy.
Like, dude's been finding photos of me where my feet are visible.
It's fucking weird.
Bro, I swear to God, Brian Atlas, WikiFeet.
That's just weird, dude.
I've seen you on there.
What the fuck?
That means you have good feet, though.
Dude, a high arch?
I don't know.
People have way too much time.
I learned about it from the H3 podcast, and he's like obsessed with it and stuff because he was like trying to get his score higher on there.
He wanted a perfect five stars and everything.
And that's how I searched other podcasts.
Wait, you searched my feet.
And I searched.
You saw my feet.
Yeah, I saw your feet on there.
No, the craziest thing, I wanted to search myself.
So I typed in my name and I looked in the image search and I like saw feet photos.
I was like, what the fuck?
And there's literally, but this is, it's not new.
Like, because some of these videos that they got the screenshots from, I took, I unlisted them like years ago.
Yeah, people take images from like several years back and stuff and we'll find it.
Yeah.
Bro.
This is crazy.
They are super.
It was literally like screenshots from a vlog from like 2015 I did and I took all my vlogs down.
The internet is forever.
Bro fancy.
Yo, my feet are out there.
That's just weird.
By the way, the Haka, I think we lost like 500 viewers, so that was a big L.
I think that was a big L.
I don't know if it was worth it.
Bro, we're down to like 5,000.
I think we're down.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
I'm sorry, guys.
I think, yeah, we lost like a ton of viewers.
Was it worth it?
I don't know.
How many, you made a thousand bucks, so.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, wait.
Are we at?
What's our viewership right now?
5.5k?
I think we lost 500.
Brix and Loki selling feet pics.
I don't know what the name is under.
By the way, thank you for all the new memberships, guys.
Eric, have you been highlighting them really quick?
Not highlighting them, but showing the memberships?
It already shows it.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Okay, cool.
I don't know where we were.
There's just a string of super chats and him doing the Haka.
Something about relationships and like what we're.
Oh, that's what I was going to say because Kiki said something like, I would find a man that I want to submit to, right?
Wait, Kiki.
Yeah, who's finding us?
Oh, my gosh.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't mean to.
That's fine.
Sorry.
Vita.
Okay.
Yeah, but you said I would.
No, you said I would find a man that I would want to submit to, and that's that's great.
Like, I'm glad that you like feel happy to do that, but at the same time, I think that's where it comes down to like a difference in preference.
You know what I mean?
I don't think there's any man that I could ever find that I would be okay with him having the final say in every single decision we make.
Like, there has to be some.
I'm probably one of the most agreeable partners you'll ever have.
Like, I really am.
I'm super easygoing.
I don't argue.
Like, I don't care.
I'm low maintenance as fuck.
But I don't like the idea of like wait, you're low maintenance.
Yeah.
Low, low maintenance.
Well, um, I should say easy going.
What?
Because low maintenance means that you can just get me in the sack, right?
And that's not true.
No.
Okay.
But, well, I mean, look, I don't know you, but I mean, I don't know if I would consider, and I'm not saying this to slight you, but you said that you're a recovering sex addict and recovering drug addict.
I don't know if that qualifies as low maintenance.
Yeah, I'm talking in regards to like how she treats herself.
Like she's a emotionally, how I would, you know, like I'm not gonna bitch at you every two seconds.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't care what you do.
If you want to go out to the bar, that's fine.
I don't, if, if, if it, I will tell you this: if it wasn't for my body count, I don't go out to bars.
I don't talk to other dudes, obviously, because I'm in recovery.
Everything I am is like technically a submissive, traditional woman.
You're not a traditional woman.
Well, except, okay, not traditional.
Well, okay, yes, you did preemptively say, besides my body count.
That's what I'm saying.
So, you know, but because this, that's why I'm saying men's standards are like a little bit too high.
Men's standards are too high.
Who are caring about like stuff like body count?
You know what I mean?
Wait, so you think it's wrong for a man to care about body count?
If it depends on the, I will say this: it depends in the way you carry yourself, right?
Like, it depends on the context of the situation.
Like, if I used to run around my old restaurant and throw it out there, you know, I got OnlyFans.
Fuck these men.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah, exactly.
I was for the streets.
Like, no man wanted anything to do with me.
In that circumstance, absolutely.
Like, you know, I would totally understand why a guy would discriminate against me if it were for my body count.
But if it was like I was recovering or, you know, whatever the case may be, some women, I know, try to find me a recovered drug addict that hasn't done sex work.
Because in today's day and age, especially when the drugs are so strong, it is like we are selling our lives for our drugs.
There's no purity and fucking drug addiction, right?
There's nothing left of you.
So there's certain circumstances where it's like, is it, it's our fault?
Yes.
But you have to take other considerations and factor, right?
Would you prefer a broke guy?
Oh, oh, go ahead.
Would you prefer a broke guy?
Yeah, completely broke.
Not completely broke.
I mean, I want him to have some type of job, but my ex was like a lead at a restaurant up in Eugene.
I literally don't care.
Most men don't want to marry the town bicycle.
Right.
That's, I mean, you know, but men care about body counts.
But I think I just said that, right?
That's why you meet somebody who is okay with what you do, like, you know, us.
So, right, right.
Not everyone is for everyone.
Guys can want to virgin.
Guys can.
Brian will make a feet find.
Yo, Metro, thank you for the thank you for the 100.
Well, I mean, I do already have an OnlyFans, onlyfans.com slash whatever.
Right now, we just have like seven pictures of Kiki on there.
It's very tasteful, very tasteful.
Obviously, like, you know, hit us up on OnlyFans.
I don't know.
Maybe I'll do something more with it.
But right now, it's just for the, it's a fucking meme.
It's a joke.
It's not, it's not serious.
I'm just trying to arrive at like what exactly are you trying to argue?
You're saying men have expect too much when it comes to a woman's body count?
I'm just trying to understand.
I'm saying men expect too much.
Average men expect too much out of average women and vice versa.
No, because I disagree.
Why?
Well, I mean, there's this concept called hoflation, where basically men have to work five times as hard.
Men, I think it goes something along the lines of, and this is hoflation, men have to work five times as hard as their grandfathers for women who are 20 times as worse as their grandmothers.
But again, 20 times worse.
I don't think most women are like me in this world, right?
I think most women, like I can objectively say I am like not part of a common statistic, right?
There's not many women sex addicts.
There's not many women drug addicts.
Like most women have relatively low body count.
I will say it's inflated by feminism.
I have to say that.
No, I'd say most women are pretty promiscuous.
In today's dandy?
Well, let's remove most women from this.
Let me just say women are more promiscuous than men.
I don't think you can deny that.
Sorry, there are more promiscuous women than there are promiscuous men.
That's the best way I can phrase it.
I don't know.
I really don't know because part of me says yes, but then the other part of me is like women are also naturally selective, right?
So and they're all selecting the same, the top tier of men.
Right, but then those men have an abundance of options.
Hold on, let's let this come up.
Super chat is $99.99.
Are they telling me to move?
Mute pepper pig.
How about giving some other guests a chance?
Much respect for you, Brian.
But you really need to toughen up and host more professionally.
I'm new to your channel and have seen this trend of poor management of speaking time.
Yeah, definitely.
You know, obviously trying to improve.
Yeah, I'm kind of, I mean, I'm kind of like a space cadet to begin with.
I'm like all over the place to begin with.
And then add in the TTS, add in the soup chats, add in like the craziness of having a bunch of people sitting in the panel talking about this.
Yeah, I'm looking potentially to bring on a co-host where maybe like, you know, can take a little of the burden off of me.
I've been looking.
I'm looking, but that's maybe in the works.
I'm entertaining a couple options there.
But yeah, you're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
But wait, okay.
So, shit, what were you saying?
I'm sorry.
I know I forgot to ask.
It was, you were saying.
You were saying that most girls go for the 1%.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so pretty much any girl can be promiscuous.
However, not any guy can be promiscuous.
I agree with that.
But are they?
You know what I mean?
Right.
So even though a girl could be promiscuous, it doesn't mean that she is.
But however, what you have happening is like an average woman or below average woman could be really promiscuous.
Whereas like a below average man, like he's not, he's not getting laid.
He's not getting DMs.
He's not getting matches on Tinder.
He's not getting anything.
So.
Right.
But then, is that below average woman like going to be relationship material to certain men?
Like, it's all about a debate, like, of whether or not, again, I think men look for relationship, or women want relationships, men want sex, right?
So if we're going with this line of thinking, there's an equal trade-off between men and women.
I would say there's exceptions to the rule.
I think that definitely men struggle more as far as mental health is concerned.
But as far as sexual, intersexual dynamics.
What do you think?
I think that generally men and women have the same amount of struggle.
It's not the same struggle, but it's the same amount.
No, it is.
No, Women have dating on easy mode compared to men.
No, yes, okay.
We're dating.
But that's a component of modern relationships.
Not if the guy's not looking for it.
If he's just looking for sex.
Eric, can you pull up that comic photo just to give it a little context here?
You know which one it is.
So, I mean, I'll address that, but.
See, here's the thing.
I don't think men only want sex.
If I can draw your attention to this.
So, I mean, this is how I think it looks for most women.
Like, you have a bunch of suitors.
Oh, I've seen this before.
Men aren't like friend zoning chicks.
Like, most girls have, like, probably have or could have, a good amount of women have or could have a line of men that would be ready to be in a relationship with them.
Most men don't have any options, sexual or relationship.
I guarantee you, I don't know if any of you have a guy, if you're, those of you who are single, if any of you have a guy who's currently in your friend zone, he would be perfectly ready to be loyal, excuse me, a loyal, dutiful boyfriend.
He'd be ready to be in a relationship with you.
You just don't happen to find him attractive, and that's fine.
I'm not saying you should be in a relationship with someone you're not attracted to.
However, men don't have like girls that are just fucking dying to be in relationships with them.
And they're just some men, some men, yes, but most men, no.
Average women have guys in the friend zone.
Average men are like maybe getting two matches a month on Tinder.
But I also think it's the demographic and where you're at, right?
Like, I'm sure a lot of these women can agree.
And I live on U of O campus.
Like, I live in the pinnacle of frat culture, okay?
Like, I live where men are not looking for relationships at all.
So it's like, or, oh, sorry.
Or you could even say like below average men are looking for relationships because of like frat culture.
And it's like, screw these women.
I don't care.
It's like a cultural thing, depending on where you live, right?
Sure, I mean, depending on the age demographic.
Yeah, I mean, definitely in universities, there's, especially here, we're right next to UCSB, number one priority school in the U.S. There's a hookup culture.
A lot of guys and women aren't looking for commitment.
And I think part of that comes to, or excuse me, is related to the fact that it's kind of an age thing.
It's a cultural thing.
And there are some people that go here that are desirous of relationships and they struggle to find it.
But you can't say that the average man and the average woman's experience is comparable.
Not experience, but as far as struggle, yeah.
It's not comparable, but it's like equal.
Okay, so you think that...
Let's say we're taking an example of an average man, average woman.
Do you think that...
Can you guys stop flirting over there?
You think that it's an equal struggle?
Perhaps it's different the ways in which they struggle when it comes to dating.
However, it's an equal amount of struggle.
Okay, I mean, I disagree with you immediately, but here, let me let you come in.
Go ahead.
I was going to say, I feel like it's not like that shouldn't be like, I feel like you're kind of projecting me as like a fact.
It is a fact.
Hold on.
Let's get to this and then I'll have you come in.
Where is your World War I uniform?
Didn't he donate $1,000?
Oh, I mean, did he, what's his name?
Kit KTI Polka Smith?
Do you want me to put on, because you didn't, you meant you wanted the haka.
Do you want me to put on the World War I uniform?
Let me know.
Separate question.
Yeah, so yeah, I think it's like you got to request one or the other, you know, but let me know if you want it.
You wouldn't have to do another fucking massive super chat.
And by the way, thank you for your huge, I think it's 1,300 so far donations tonight.
That's wild.
Thank you, man, so much.
Are you like the owner of the all blacks or something?
Okay, sorry to interrupt you.
Go ahead.
Promise this $99.99.
I'm going to thank you for that.
He'll be honesty blunt about hookup culture and double standards.
I can't explicitly say it's because his language is too unique.
Where is the lamb salt?
Can all be Gordon Ramsey.
Okay, I think genuinely, you guys are all trying to say the same thing, just listening to the back and forth across this table, that both sides of this conversation are struggling, right?
Both sides are admitting whatever we're doing in culture is not working.
And I think a lot of that has come from, to bring things full circle, at the risk of sounding too much like Jenzaki, to circle back feminism in this idea that women are being specifically programmed by society to reject the idea of seeking out a life partner that would be a good long-term commitment for them.
Instead, she should be putting her career first.
She should be putting climbing the corporate ladder first.
She should be putting herself first.
Draw yourself a bubble bath and drink a glass of rosé, girl, because self-love is going to be way more important than investing in a long-term relationship.
Similarly, that is causing the friend zoning of countless men who are really looking for that type of relationship.
But we've convinced ourselves that all men want is sex.
So why would we even spend the time?
Why would we give them five minutes of our day to invest in something that could be the greatest thing that ever happened to us?
But instead, we're trying to put all of these pointless things first in our lives that ultimately 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years down the road are not going to make us have wholesome, happy, and fulfilling lifestyles.
So I find it interesting.
I think you guys are both saying similar things that come from the same root problem, but maybe it's less so about who's struggling more and just the fact that our system isn't working.
You got interrupted.
Go ahead.
I was just going to say, like, I agree with you that women definitely have a little more authority when it comes to relationships.
But as it goes, like, for men and women, it's not just like just men want sex.
Women want relationships.
It's not like that at all.
Like, women do the same exact thing.
Like, women look for sex.
For example, like, I'm not trying to, like, target you, but, like, as a sex addict, you're texting guys to come over every single night.
Like, I'm sorry.
This whole conversation is why it's important for women to not sleep around.
People would naturally date their level, but sadly, it's too late.
The highest value men are simply too scarce and valuable.
Now, when one woman holds out, another woman will always take her place.
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
Like I think I said before, the genie's out of the bottle.
I really don't know what the solution is.
Sorry, continue on with your point.
The moral of the story, like, women do it too.
Like, it's you can't target that specific, like, scenario towards men because I think it fluctuates.
Which specific scenario?
That men only want sex.
Oh, I agree with you.
I think there's plenty of men out there that would, they don't want to run through a bunch of chicks.
They want to have a relationship with one girl.
And a lot of people in this space say, oh, men are only as faithful as their options.
They can't be monogamous.
But I think genuinely a lot of men are more than capable of being monogamous.
They don't want to run through a bunch of chicks.
Oh my god.
Pokey Smith donated $100.
Mute Piggy.
Pink.
I think the mute a mic option is a bit more than that.
So you'd have to send it individually.
But just not really.
ATI PokeSmith, do you have a response to...
I mean, I can't tell if it's because I'm wearing pink or if I'm fat or balls.
But if it is, I mean, cool.
You know, I don't give a fuck.
Sorry.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
They really like interrupting you, by the way.
Go ahead.
That's all I really had to say.
That it's so different.
Like, you can't make it a fact that men do this and women do that.
Oh, okay.
So I think the point that I was making is just that there are men, and I think a lot of men that they'd be happy with just one girl.
Like, and for you to be consistently getting a lot of girls, you do have to become, like, I think a pretty top-tier guy to do it.
So, and me personally, I've really never been interested in just like running through a bunch of chicks.
It doesn't interest me.
I'm very busy.
I've always been busy.
I've always been kind of determined in terms of business and, you know, being focused, whether that's on my health or finances.
Oh, my.
Thank you, man.
No, I'm a little piggy and where the world war won me.
And where the world warrants.
All right.
All right.
I'll grab it in a sec here.
And actually, let me just do one more really quick before it pops off.
One sec, it's going to come through here.
My stream labs is lagging.
Bro, Pokey Smith, are you, can you, what do you do for work, man?
By the way, oh, send me a DM, dude, because we have a chat Chad's group on Instagram for Chads like you.
Veteran Carpenter, Chicken the Pink lacks basic intelligence.
She needs to shut her mouth and listen.
His words, not mine.
It's better to be silent and let people think you're an idiot than open your mouth and prove you are.
Not my words.
That's veteran carpenter.
Yeah, go ahead.
Apparently, I just need to shut my mouth.
I mean, like, we were going back and forth, right?
This is how debates work.
If somebody else was like, oh, I have something to say, can I jump in and say something?
Of course, I'm not going to be like, no, fuck you.
Just shut up.
You know what I mean?
If anybody else wants to, I'm not trying to dominate the conversation.
I was just finishing my thought.
Of course.
Of course.
Okay.
So what was your original thing that you were talking about?
I'm sorry.
This is the fucking struggles aren't exactly, I would say, equal.
Like, obviously, we have different struggles.
People struggle differently with specific things, but men are not entitled to just want sex for women.
No, and I don't think that they are.
I think there's plenty of men out there that'd be perfectly happy in a monogamous relationship.
I think a lot of men are struggling to find that, and so are women.
Just to kind of address your thing, so you said that you think that the struggle between men and women, it's about the same when it comes to dating.
Yeah.
But I mean, like, the ease, and I know you said dating, but would you agree with the following point?
It's easier, it's much easier for women to get laid than it is for men to get laid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So with that said, I mean, can you acknowledge that that is sort of, at least for most modern relationships, that is the beginning stage of most relationships, getting like getting to intimacy, getting to sex?
I don't think in my experience, and I've heard this from like most women, I don't think if you sleep with a man on the first date, typically it's going to last very long.
Like that's just my that's been my experience, you know.
If I even lie, because I've done this before, I've lied and told men I was a virgin.
I straight up, I was like, I was like, yeah, just to see what they would do.
I swear.
And they didn't, and guess what?
They didn't want anything to do with me after like the third date.
They were just like, bye, you know?
So, who knows?
So, wait, you lied to men saying you were a virgin and the hopes.
So, I talked about this on my podcast.
I did like a little social experiment.
No, no, I wasn't like hoping to be with them, but I was like, you know, I was like, I'm curious because people, or men say they value purity.
That's one of the things they value.
Yeah, but you're not pure.
Men, we can sniff that shit out.
No, I'm a good liar, Brian.
I'm telling you.
I covered up all my tattoos and everything.
It's like girls say, oh, I've only, I've never done this before, and then they got that fucking gluck cluck or whatever the fuck that bullshit's called.
It's like, okay, look, most modern relationships, I mean, we can have a discussion over, well, would it be better if people wait until marriage?
Sure, that's what that's a whole nother concept.
However, I would say most modern relationships, it's not, hey, let's date for three months, then have sex, be in a relationship, then have sex.
It's most people, they hook up relatively early on, and then it develops into a relationship.
You continue hooking up with the person, and then it develops into a relationship.
We can have a conversation over, is that good?
What does that lead to?
Does it work?
But I'd say that's how most relationships develop.
So, so sex is the first point.
So, I know you maybe disagree with me on this, but.
No, I agree that that's real.
I just hate that that's real.
Sure.
That breaks my heart that that is normal.
Yeah, but so if sex, if the first step to getting a relationship is getting sex, I'm not phrasing this right.
If women can get sex very easily, then it would follow that women are more capable of getting relationships.
Well, um, sorry, I forgot what point I was going to say.
Okay, you were saying that dating, men and women struggle about the same in different ways, but we struggle about the same if there was some way to measure it when it comes to courtship dating relationships.
However, I disagree.
I think women have it easier.
Yeah, and so to my point, like fucking on the first date, for example, that may be true.
I just have never heard and personally have ever had that experience, right?
Like, I think, I don't think men take you seriously when you sleep with them right away.
You don't, but you don't have to sleep with a guy on the first date.
No, but you're saying, like, the relationships, modern relationships typically start out sexual.
So, whether it's first, second, or third, it's pretty soon, right?
Yeah, it doesn't have to be the first, but yeah, typically I'd say most within the first three dates.
Right, so if they start out sexual, like really soon, how is a man supposed to respect you?
He doesn't.
And the relationship doesn't last.
I disagree with that.
I disagree with that in that you can have sex relatively early on and still it can flourish into a relationship and you can still respect them.
And I think a girl can sleep with a guy relatively quick and still have a low body count.
See, I was just about to ask that.
How do you expect a girl to have a low body count and try to find her Prince Charming by sleeping with him on the second date?
So, yeah, I mean, it is a bit of a dilemma for women.
It is a bit of a dilemma for women, but I mean, there's certain things that you can do, for example.
Like, first off, have a conversation with a guy.
Ask him bluntly what he's looking for.
Now, obviously, some dudes are going to lie to get sex.
Sure, that's going to happen.
But you can definitely ask.
And, I mean, I think women have a really good social intuition.
I mean, perhaps you want to believe his lies because you find him attractive.
That's another conversation.
But also, what is the long-term potential there?
Like, does he seem like a fuckboy?
If he is, he's probably, like, no matter what he says, probably not a good bet.
So, does he seem like a fuckboy?
Okay, I'm not saying anything for the rest of the hour.
Well, I mean, you can engage with me on this if you want, but he hasn't hit, the trigger has to be all in one donation.
But, okay, so is the guy, like, are you on spring break?
Are you in Tulum?
Are you in Miami?
Probably don't fuck a dude.
Like, if you don't want to rack up a high body count, don't sleep with men while you're traveling.
Don't sleep with men who are traveling.
Scooper and super chatted $100.
Thank you.
23 single engineer.
Caven dated in four years.
Too much risk.
Spend most of my time working or spending time with friends.
Most modern women don't see the common man looking for a relationship.
We don't even make it on their radar.
Engineer, what kind of engineer, man?
I mean, usually engineers do pretty well financially, I'd say, but I mean, that's kind of my stance: a lot of average women don't want average men.
So, okay, but in terms of keeping your body count low, so there's talking to him, seeing what he's about, getting a feel for him.
I think women have much stronger social intuition than men do.
Like, if you're traveling or you know that he's going to be leaving town in the month, don't sleep with him.
If he's leaving town in three months, don't sleep with him.
Like, feel out the logistic component of is there a potential, is there long-term potential here?
You know, like some girls will like hook up the guy who knows he's leaving town in three months.
Are you, I mean, unless you're going to get into a long-distance relationship, which I was ill-advised, but so feel it out on that end.
And then, I mean, I mean, I can speak from personal experience.
I've had multiple long-term relationships.
I've dated a girl for five years, three years, two years, nine months, one year.
I've had long, a few long-term relationships.
Most of these girls, like we, I'd say we had sex the first within the first three dates.
So, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Would you like and they had relatively low body counts?
Would you say, like, a woman, for example, like with a high body count like me, would you say she's not deserving of anybody?
Or would you say she's deserving of not high-value men, just average men?
Well, I mean, you're I'm not saying that you don't deserve anybody, but I you're there are some men, I suppose, will tolerate the fact that you're previously sex addicted and have a really high body count but donated $100.
Piggy had more pipe than a plumber.
What the fuck?
Okay, anyways.
Okay, Jesus Christ.
I'm not even going to entertain that one.
Let's try to keep it polite, guys, if we can.
Let's try to keep it polite, guys.
So, yeah, I'm sure there's some guy out there, but I mean, the high body count thing is probably going to be an issue for some guys.
For some guys, it's not.
Like, for example, do you care about body count?
No.
Yeah, some dudes don't care about body count.
I think they're perhaps should have some standards on that front, but I mean, everyone's entitled to their own view.
So, I'm not saying when I met him, I had a low body count.
And after you were still with him, you bumped up your body count.
I didn't make that money.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
But I guess the point, and to bring it back to the sex thing, so you said your body count is 136, right?
Yeah, around there.
Just to bring it back to the whole like men and women struggle the same, and I'm not saying this to be mean to you.
However, you're I'm just trying, I want to state this as you're not going to hurt my feelings.
Sure, I appreciate you saying that.
So, your male looks equivalent could not sleep with six women in a night, could not have a 136 body count, right?
Because you're saying I'm average-looking, right?
I mean, I don't want to make comments about your appearance, but I'm just saying you're yes, but your male looks equivalent could not sleep with six women in a night the same way that you slept with six men in a night.
Right, because men are willing to like fuck down.
Yeah, but basically, like you have the equivalent sexual pull of a famous athlete, musician, or actor, A-list celebrity, and you're an average woman.
And I'm not saying that to insult you, but what I'm saying, I guess to make my point, you can leverage your sexual pull to potentially, not guaranteed, secure a relationship.
Tipoke Smith donated 136.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yo, chat, hold on.
Chat, let me ask, chat.
Can you pull the chat over?
Is this guy going to charge?
Like, I'm kind of getting worried that this is, like, might be charge back territories.
Chat, your thoughts on this?
Like, I'm a little concerned that it's, I mean, I don't know.
Is it?
Hopefully not, because I did the fucking hawk up, bro.
If you.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Okay.
So you were going to respond, I think.
What was the last part of your statement?
I'm sorry.
Well, basically.
Oh, like I could basically.
Oh, sorry.
I keep wondering.
Could you open the door?
I'm an average-looking woman.
So, but even being an average-looking woman, I could still get more pull than an average-looking man.
I understand that.
But so, like, what was your point in saying that?
The, like, women don't have as much loneliness.
You know what I mean?
That it's harder for men.
Yeah.
That it's harder for men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To have sex.
Well, it's also harder for men in all other realms, too.
Tipoke Smith donated $100.
I want to charge back DW.
I don't know if you got that crazy oil money or something or you got some Bitcoin.
I believe you, but it's the volume of super chats you're sending makes me.
You know, you know what I mean?
You know, it's crossing my mind, but thank you.
If you're not, like, I, your patronage is deeply appreciated, but I'm, you know, it is something I'm considering.
Okay, so.
I don't know how exactly I want to tackle this.
So what was your previous point?
So you, like, let me, let me kind of like wrap it up.
You know what I think?
I think she's right.
I think we're arguing against feminism, but we're just picking at straws because we're saying who struggles the most, right?
So I think I'm like arguing for feminism against feminism within feminism.
You know what I mean?
So I think at the end of the day, we can come to the general conclusion that feminism is like bad for society.
It's just a matter of like who started it.
I don't know, chicken or the egg kind of thing, right?
Because you could say women started it, yes, but you could also say that men went along with it.
You know what I mean?
Well, I'm not sure if that's really addressing kind of the point I'm trying to make here.
The point I've been making, and the point you're pushing back against, is you're saying that the struggle that men and women experience when it comes to dating is about equivalent.
and I'm saying that men struggle more on the sex front and the dating front.
Yeah, I mean.
Okay, here, we can.
We can change it.
Let's even remove sex from this conversation.
How do most people meet?
They meet online nowadays, right?
They meet online.
me but well they well i mean sorry most people That's what he's saying.
Sorry.
Yeah, most people meet people online.
So as a woman on a dating app, you're far more likely.
And there are both men and women on dating apps who are looking for relationships.
So women get more matches.
They get more likes.
Women swipe no on more men than do men swipe no on women.
Women, as a guy, you're going to have to initiate typically the first message.
You're going to have to plan the date, set up the date, probably pay for the date.
Women, I mean.
And let me ask you a question.
Do women have more options than men?
Sexually, yes.
Relationship-wise, do women have more options than men?
I don't, it depends, again, it depends on certain circumstances, right?
It depends on the age demographic.
It depends on, you know, how attractive these men are.
It depends on a lot of factors.
If we're talking about men 18 to 25, I think that, yeah, women have it harder, a lot harder if they're dating within their age group.
If you have like a woman that's 25 and she's like dating within like 26 to like 35 year old men, then yeah, the 25 to 35 year old men are probably going to have it harder.
But it just depends.
Right?
I mean, I. Does anybody else want to come in on this?
I want to open it up to the rest of the panel.
Anybody?
Hello?
I feel like you're just speaking for like a small minority, but generally speaking, it's like pretty spot on about like what he's saying.
You mean like for men that like put women in the F zone?
Okay, women.
I'm kindly saying this, right?
The only type of women who mostly get put in the fuck zone are people who place themselves there.
Other than that, other than that, most women are like taken seriously.
Well, I agree with that, but the thing is, is like, I don't know.
Men also lie to women too, right?
Yeah, but I think as a woman, it's really easy to spot out lies and you know kind of exactly what to expect from guys.
Like I feel like it's such like you're lying to yourself if you're going to sit here and like listen to what guys tell you and then be like, oh, I can't believe this happened this way.
Like you know in your gut.
You know in your gut when it's going to be.
Sometimes you'll choose to ignore that, but that doesn't dismiss the fact that you knew to begin with.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I feel like I've been talking too much.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, let's move on to a different topic.
I think just ultimately, you know, if even if you remove the sex component, that there are, in terms of struggle, there's also just more burden, even removing, well, who has an easier time attaining relationships?
There is a higher burden on men to perform.
For example, we have the burden of having to be the initiators.
I don't think you deny that.
Men have to initiate.
Generally speaking, men have to initiate.
I don't like that generally, yeah.
Sure, women want it, but let's say a guy, he's shy, he's introverted, he's socially awkward, has social anxiety, he's probably fucked.
Whereas like, and actually, I mean, there's so many ways I can tackle this.
Like a guy who's neurodivergent is going to have a far higher time, excuse me, is going to have a much harder time getting a girl than a girl who's neurodivergent.
Also, like even a chick in a wheelchair, bro, she could put up some fucking bodies.
Whereas like a dude in a wheelchair, he's going to struggle.
Amputee.
Sounds pity fun.
Not necessarily, but.
I'm just kidding.
There's plenty of women in wheelchairs that are beautiful.
Also, I mean, here's another thing.
There's this femme cell.
I don't know if you know femme cell.
Yeah, like where it's not even, it's not even real.
No woman wants me, and there's like a bunch of guys that are like trying to get it.
Yeah, I mean, basically, it's almost impossible for a woman to be involuntarily celibate.
And there's a forum on Reddit of femme cells who claim to be involuntary celibate, and they actually had to like private it or shut it down because a bunch of men were messaging these supposed involuntarily celibate women, offering them relationships, offering them sex.
So women are never, women can never be as lonely as a guy can.
You might not have the optimal suitor that you want, but there's a different degree of loneliness that men experience when it comes to relationships than women.
See, I disagree with that.
In my active sex addiction, I was never lonelier in my life.
And arguably, you could say I shouldn't be because I was having sex with the most amount of people at that time, right?
I mean, you had 136 sexuality.
It's mostly because you're having like an emotional response to it.
It's not because like physically.
Yo, did any of the guys have a dude?
Did you do something?
Sorry.
Let me just come in really quick, then I'll have you come in.
Did you cuddle with any of the guys that you hooked up with?
Yeah.
Do you know how touch-starved most men are?
Perhaps it was a one-night stand, the guy didn't text you back, but you got sex.
You got a cuddle.
Most men are so touch-starved that even the fact that you could cuddle.
And I don't, I'm not challenging the fact that you were perhaps dissatisfied or lonely or depressed because of your phase of promiscuity.
But most men don't even, they can't even get that amount of attention.
Most men are, I shouldn't say most, a lot of men, maybe it is most, are invisible to women.
They're not getting, a girl's never sliding into their DMs.
A girl's never asking them out on a date.
A girl's never paying them a compliment.
A girl is never going on a date with them.
They're not getting cuddles.
They're not even getting sex.
At least you can, perhaps it's not what women want, but at least you can get that.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
So, so I do actually agree with that.
But it's not like when you have like casual sex, even if it's like a cuddle, even if there's like some type of intimacy and you know what the other party's intentions are, it's not the same.
It doesn't mean that you get more satisfaction out of it versus when you're, you know, like alone.
I would rather be alone.
You know what I mean?
I would rather be alone than have meaningless sex ever again.
But you.
I'm just saying.
And that's why, kids, you should wait until you're married to me.
Right, but I mean, you at, I think sex is a, sex is considered almost a need.
Or what is the Maslow's hierarchy?
No, food, shelter, and reproduction, I'm pretty sure.
Well, I mean, I think women enjoy having sex.
Yeah.
And so, like, I agree with you in the sense that like probably most women are happier actually having a relationship with one person instead of having a string of sexual partners.
But like, let's not deny the fact that women on their own end, happily, I don't know if happily is the right word, they participate in hookup culture.
So, so confused, super $200.
So, I have a rule: no sex on the first three dates, but after that, free game, but these chicks come out for the free meal, say, single men will always be lonely and invisible.
I had a dating app for two years, got six matches and two dates.
So, men have it harder.
Yo, by the way, Pokey Smith, can you shoot me a DM on Instagram, please?
At whatever, shoot me a DM on Instagram.
Go ahead, Eric.
I need to step up for a sec to put on my World War I uniform because he's been asking for it.
Sorry for the delay.
I want to open it up to you guys at the table if you want to give me two, three minutes to go put my uniform on.
If you guys want to maybe shh, oh my god, I think I gotta bump the TTS again.
I don't know, guys.
No more dead arm for big spoons.
Yo, thank you, Spoony.
By the way, I appreciate all the TTS.
Don't get it twisted.
I really appreciate all the patronage and support.
Okay, so I feel like some of you over here haven't had a lot of opportunity to talk.
So if you guys want, go ahead.
I feel like going back.
No, no, no, you go.
I feel like going back to your point you made like kind of a while ago.
I think a lot of the new hookup culture is also really due to all the instant gratification that like, social media has given people and like all of the like.
I don't know, like kids these days have a brain span of like six seconds $100.
The reason why Keely is so defensive over Mickey is because if he left her, no one would want her.
She's selling her soul for money, which is cheap.
In men's eyes.
The more a woman has sex, the less they are worthy continue.
And I don't know that we could ever get back to like what it was before, to get rid of this instant gratification.
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Do better, Brian roasted.
No, I think you're right.
I think we've built a culture where everything is supposed to be immediate right.
So the idea of setting a higher standard, of respecting a boundary, of putting in the time and the effort and commitment for a long-term relationship that you're hoping to have for the rest of your life, for decades of your life, that sounds so unappealing.
For God's sake, you can get pharmaceuticals delivered to your door from Amazon in 30 minutes, right?
Why would you want to think about something that would spend the rest of your life constantly requiring your attention, the demand of your energy, the demand of your emotions, sacrificing things, laying down your life and being submissive to someone else, putting your needs behind another person's needs that's so countercultural.
But I find it really interesting looking around this table and we're all in very different phases of our lives, of our relationship statuses.
Uh, we come from really different places.
I'm sure we all have dramatically different cultural, Cultural and social and political backgrounds, and yet every single one of us is sitting here saying something is not right with how we're doing things right now.
So, I don't know what that means of where we go forward from here.
But wow, what a fascinating social commentary in a time where they say that we should be more divided than ever, especially on the biggest social and cultural issues of our day, like dating.
And I think the problem is that go ahead, go ahead.
I think that just proves that we're all very similar and no one's really unique because we're all in this whole world together dealing with the same things.
No matter what your political views are, no matter how you dress, no matter how many people you've slept with, we're all the same.
And, you know, we're all in this thing.
And we all deserve better.
Exactly.
And the problem is that it's only getting worse from here.
Like, it's not going to get better.
The only way it could get better is if everyone got healed.
But that's not happening.
Like, one day we're going to look back to this and think, like, oh, those were actually some pretty good days.
I would say a big problem, though, that I've noticed with men today that is certainly affecting your mental state is low testosterone.
And a big factor in that is the diet in America.
And I think if the government got, I don't usually like the government getting involved in things, but if the FDA got more involved in what we're eating, I mean, there's a lot of environmental factors we necessarily can't control, but food factors we can certainly control.
And a lot of the processed oils and sugars and grains and certainly that people are eating.
I have an autoimmune disorder that affects me where I'm a lot more sensitive than most people.
So I sought out diet solutions for that.
Nobody cares.
But a lot of other people are not going to seek out those solutions.
And I think that's affecting people, men's testosterone, which does, a lot of people don't think, but the hormones do affect your brain quite a bit.
And that's why a lot of men are depressed and not being good fathers that are staying home and why a lot of these social issues we're talking about really does, I know it sounds dumb, but really does have to do a lot with diet, I think.
Oh, it's a huge issue.
Women these days have more testosterone than they did like 50 years ago.
I made that up.
I mean, like the year.
No, women definitely have higher testosterone now because when you, it's like the opposite.
So if you're overweight and you're a woman, then you are going to be having higher testosterone while a man will have higher estrogen levels if he's overweight.
So it's definitely an issue that women have to deal with too.
Birth control absolutely squeezes up your horrible control.
Throw it away, everybody.
That's why women are birth control.
Is there a particular reason?
No.
But I want to do something.
Well, I'm taking the pill, but I would much rather resort to another form of birth control than the pill.
When you met your boyfriend, right?
You said you're very tasty.
When you met your boyfriend, were you already on the pill or not?
Yeah, I've been on the pill since I would.
I've been on the pill for about like two and a half years, I would say.
Describe your boyfriend.
Is he like very masculine or is he kind of feminine?
He's pretty masculine, I would say.
Her boyfriend's a chat.
No, he's actually not.
He's actually very, like, classy, put-together.
No, Chad is like a frat guy.
So what's really crazy is that this is a really universal experience for women our age that when we were 15, 16, even going into college, we were recommended to be prescribed birth control for anything.
Like literally anything under our skull for really bad periods, for back cramps, for migraines, even though the pill causes migraines, which makes no sense for acne.
That's why I started taking the pill when I was 15 because I was on Accutane and the government, the FDA, insisted that you absolutely must also take hormonal birth control with this basically experimental dermatology drug while you're on Accutane because Accutane can cause birth defects if you become pregnant while you're taking the drug.
So they force you to take hormonal birth control and then your dermatologist or for any other ailment outside of acne, they just suggest that you stay on it forever.
And the absolutely insane lie that we are feeding women right now totally plays into this diet thing with men that your hormones need to be balanced.
You need to regulate your hormones.
You need to even out all of your hormones.
Your hormones are supposed to peak and valley every single month, but instead we have an entire generation of women who for like 10 years have been fed this lie that your hormones are supposed to stay stagnant.
Simply from a scientific perspective, your hormones are you.
You are your hormones.
How you respond to stress, who you're attracted, how much you like listening to music, what things smell like to you, how often you get sick in your immune system.
All of that is regulated by your hormones.
And now we're just starting to study the idea that your personality changes, what types of people you spend time with, what your political beliefs are, your religious beliefs.
It's crazy.
And the same thing can be said about it.
I had a doctor that tried to prescribe me Accutane when I had acne when I was hitting puberty and he thankfully never prescribed it to me and I refused it because what they found out later on is that it was causing young boys to develop breast, which is definitely not something you want as a young man.
So, no, screw big pharma.
And they ruined my childhood.
I have a question for you.
Also, my conditions are bad too.
Have you heard about that whole theory about how a lot of people, or women specifically, get off the pill and then they don't like their partner anymore?
Do you fear that medical?
Oh, no, I don't fear that at all.
She said he's pretty masculine.
I was on birth control for many years and it caused me many horrible issues like my skin, my everything.
And then I've still been with him, so it didn't change it for me.
So I'm not on birth control.
But then I would say she had cancer-like symptoms on birth control.
That was literally making her hair fall out and her skin was horrible.
She was literally dying from it.
That's by the way, did a TTS come in that we talked over?
It didn't.
It didn't read in that lesson.
Oh, weird.
Okay.
I'll figure that out.
Is your boyfriend watching the stream, by the way?
He was probably watching earlier, but I don't know about right now.
Okay.
Do you want to say hi to your boyfriend in the camera?
Hi, Frankie.
I love you.
You said you guys were dating for how long?
We've been dating for six and a half.
Very taken.
But you said you go out and party, right?
Is he cool with that?
No.
I only go out and party when I'm with him.
Because I don't know.
Like, if I were to go out and party myself, like, in a guy's mind, like, it's just like, oh, she's going to cheat on me.
She's going to hook up with another guy.
I completely, like, I 100% respect my boyfriend, so I do not go out without him.
Okay.
That's good.
Oh, based.
Okay.
I want to circle back to, I think there was a question asked, like, who is responsible for promiscuity?
Like, who started that, like, the chicken egg thing?
I don't even think it's necessarily men or necessarily women.
I think it's due to the fact that birth control is extremely pushed and abortion is celebrated and pushed.
And if we completely annihilated both of those things, I mean, we'd be way less, we would be a way less of a promiscuous society.
Because women would be getting pregnant.
We'd be more cautious, as we were like decades and decades and centuries ago.
Facts.
I think another thing that we should talk about is how women don't know their cycle.
I think a lot of young women just think their cycle is just their bleeding period.
And if you were to get to know your cycle, you would know when you are ovulating and when you are fertile because you can only get pregnant one time out of the entire month.
And also, you're the most appealing to men when you're ovulating.
Whether they know it or not.
True.
Notice phylogenically.
See you.
I have the best.
when I'm So during your phase of ovulation, this is the amazing small part of how your body was designed.
Just the science nerd in me loves this stuff.
Literally, you look more attractive physically.
You look more attractive to the opposite sex when you are ovulating.
I know.
You get thinner, you're less floated, you're glowing, your skin looks really great, your hair looks awesome.
Like you genuinely are more beautiful while you are ovulating and you're able to conceive a child.
But when you take birth control pills, hormonal birth control pills, that's an important caveat, you keep your hormone levels that peak, that help you get to that point stagnant.
So instead of the peaks and valleys of your estrogen and progesterone, it stays flat all month, all the time.
So you're mid in your emotions and how you respond to stress and what you look like all month, every month, usually for decades on end.
And we're just now starting to research that, to ask that question.
Birth control has affected me a lot as like a person.
Like I feel like the biggest thing, like people will always say, like my personality changed the most, I would say.
Like out of everything.
Like before I was on birth control, I would say I was like a little more like bubbly, fun, you know?
But when I hopped on birth control, like I went on it for sex and my acne.
And like, I don't know, I was just so depressed.
Like it, it made me have more acne in a way.
Like I was depressed.
Like it kind of just like put me through this like phase of life where I felt like I was like empty kind of.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I'm back to normal.
Well, that's good.
And I'm still on birth control, so.
Is it the same birth control?
Like is it the same?
No, it's a little bit different.
Wait, why would you go back on it after all?
I never stopped.
She doesn't quit.
Oh, I gotcha.
I never stopped.
Okay, let's move it on to something else.
So you revealed your body count.
Really quick, just show of hands.
Should body count matter?
Yes, should body count matter?
No.
Shouldn't matter.
Yes.
Should matter.
Shouldn't matter.
Shouldn't matter, shouldn't matter.
Okay, so you revealed your body count.
Just show of hands again.
Should body count matter?
Kind of.
Okay.
Keely, what's your body count?
Like in the 20s.
What's your body count?
Closer to my close, close, close, close.
I want to say like five or six.
You're lying, babe.
Come on.
That's not a lot.
You told me it was one when we met.
Wait.
He's lying because he's embarrassed because he hasn't been with anybody but me except for like a line.
It's okay.
That's a good thing.
Why do you have to lie about it?
Why do you have to lie about it?
Wait, it was one.
I don't care about it.
After her or before her.
There's nobody after me, right?
I mean, as far as I know.
Wait, so did you lose your body?
Oh, she doesn't consider like, I consider getting a blow job or kissing, like hooking up with her.
I thought it was just like that.
But technically, she thinks it means like, you know, having insertion and stuff.
That's to her.
But I did have other girls that I like kissed or got a BJ from or whatever.
But you don't count in your body count.
I count that as body count, but she doesn't.
I thought body count was just sex.
Yeah, it is sex.
It is.
I guess there has to be.
Wait, both of you have to do it.
If it's just penetration, then yeah, it's like one or two.
Okay, for you?
It's okay.
Yeah, before her.
So you weren't like a virgin when you met her?
No, I wasn't.
Okay, but so for you, it's 20.
For you, it's five?
When I met him, I was at seven, and he was one number seven that I slept with.
When you met him, you were seven.
He was seven.
I was at number seven.
And now you're at what?
Like in the 20s.
In the 20s.
It doesn't matter if you're not.
Engaged, by the way.
I consider us both.
Engaged, by the way.
Yeah.
I consider us both ones to each other, like no one else.
I wish we could have lost it to each other.
It's just the two of us.
Okay, what's your body count?
20.
Body count is 20?
Okay.
Eight.
Eight?
Okay.
Oh, cool.
I sound like I'm judging.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Closer to the mic?
I don't think I want to answer this one.
Fair enough.
What about you?
Are we talking about penetration?
Yes.
Yeah, penetration, I guess.
10.
Okay, throwing like handies in the back of a 7-Eleven.
I've never done that.
Oh, okay.
Zero.
Zero?
Okay.
But I will say that with girls, it'd be 15.
Oh, including women.
Okay, because are you by?
I see.
Yeah.
And Martin Sarah.
Oh, Mark Flavius.
Lieutenant Labia, better wrap up pretty soon.
Mick has a really early morning preparing Raggedy Animals' meal for work tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm going to try to get through some super chats.
We're a little behind, so yeah.
Thank you, though, man.
By the way, all labia matter.
All labia matter in the chat, boys.
I want to see it.
You know, it's unfortunate that women get, if a woman has a large labia, it's unfortunate that they get shamed if they do.
This is true.
But it goes for men, too.
Yeah, women get, or men get shamed.
Yeah, you're right.
Men get shamed if they have small peens.
Or if they're not saturated, or if they are, you know.
Yeah, that's like one of the biggest.
Like one of my girlfriends, she was like, I will never touch an uncut thing.
And I was like, I didn't even tell the difference.
It's really normal.
Yeah, we're all just a bunch of superficial.
Okay, not us.
Just humans.
Are you going to propose?
Am I going to propose?
Or did I?
People were commenting they wanted you to propose to someone else.
To who?
I don't know.
Did I forget who they said?
Who has, I mean, speaking of large labias.
Is anyone here rocking?
Yeah, you want people to say that?
Is anybody rocking a beef curtain or what do they call it?
Oh my god.
Well, how dare you?
No, I call it that.
But I've seen it, an Audi.
I don't like these terms.
You know, women get shamed.
There's like beef curtains, wizard sleeve, roast beef.
It's not good.
Wizards.
I don't know.
Wizard sleeves don't hard life.
I mean, it's a good idea.
Anybody?
Large.
She got a line for me.
You got it.
I was going to have a question.
You're so uncomfortable.
It's a terrible question.
Yeah.
It would never.
My body count is zero.
What makes you think I would ever answer that?
For the memes?
For the memes?
No.
Will you marry me?
How much money is in your bank account?
What the fuck?
No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, sure.
Do I get to wear it?
Yeah, you can put it on.
All right.
This is for the engagement that never happened.
That was supposed to happen.
Yeah.
Okay.
It was like seven bucks on Amazon.
But it looks cool, right?
Oh, put it in real life.
Put it on.
All right.
All right, guys.
Me and this would be a bad time for me to ask you to repeat your name, right?
Vita.
V-I-T-A.
Vita.
No, like Vita.
Vita.
Like Vita Coco.
Like Vita Magazine.
That's such a weird name.
How am I saying it?
How do you spell it?
Vita, V-I-T.
Bad news blues super chatted $100.
Isabel, I have loved every comment you have had.
Would you be willing to co-host with Brian?
Please.
I have a stream every night.
I lost my booster seat, you guys.
I'm too short for this.
I have a stream every night, but certainly would talk to Brian about it.
I don't live here.
I live on the opposite coast.
I live.
It's a free state of Florida.
God bless.
What was the question?
Are you famous?
Yeah, she's verified on IG.
She got blue check.
Significant.
Do you have a YouTube?
I do, but I'm building my YouTube slowly, so we're getting there.
I think it's tagged somewhere in the chat.
You guys keep tagging.
By the way, guys, in terms of being a dictator, is the hand on the belt, is that part of the act?
I don't know.
Do I keep the hand on the belt?
Okay.
What about the proposal?
What?
Vita Atlas.
Do you have what's the dowry looking like?
Like, how many goats are you bringing to the table?
What does that mean?
Dowry.
The bride price.
Wouldn't you be bringing her the goats?
No, it's the woman who comes with the dowry.
So what kind of livestock are we talking about?
I don't know.
And also, like, how many tractors?
I need some equipment.
I'm selling old Porsche right now.
Maybe.
All right, well, I'll have to talk to your father about it.
Okay, by the way, do you guys remember there was a TTS that came through, but it didn't trigger.
Was it men are just grown boys?
Did that one come through?
Oh, that was the one that wasn't split like that.
It was this one?
Yeah.
Oh, whoa, okay.
There's a little.
Michelle.
SL underscore I.d.underscore CFB18C F0E993F32 donated $100.
Men are just grown boys.
Boys can learn camaraderie or they can learn animosity.
Men with animosity in their hearts will for ego.
The sex springs confidence which brings more sex.
We are a society of adults who have retained our middle school hierarchy.
Hey, Noah, I don't think I blocked you on Streamlabs.
I don't have anyone moderating really on Streamlabs, so I can't imagine why you're blocked.
It could be you're trying to send a word that is inappropriate, so it's automatically blocking it from going through.
Otherwise, feel free to just do through Super Chat if it's not working.
And we had Zenitsu.
I already did it, but here I'll give you a little.
Yes, you are a Chad.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
Let me get through a couple regular super chats.
We got it.
Oh, my God.
Fuck.
Okay.
We have quite a lot.
So I apologize, some of you guys.
I'm going to read them all, but we are going to power through them.
So, oh, before I do that, can we pull up Twitch?
Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Guys, go over to twitch.tv slash whatever.
Oh, my God.
Look at all these.
Cheers.
Asian Kyle NYC.
Okay.
I think that's like a penny.
Thank you, man.
Guys, go to Twitch, twitch.tv slash whatever.
Go give us a follow.
If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch account.
Quick, free, easy way every month to support the show.
Drop us a Prime sub if you have one.
Yo, thank you guys all so much for following us.
Yo, Jane, I thank you for the follow.
Appreciate it.
Asian Kyle, thank you for all the bits.
Much appreciated.
Oh, yeah, spam it.
Thank you, buddy.
That's nice.
I can't see the primes that are coming through.
Asian underscore Kyle underscore NYC with the bits.
Okay, thank you guys for all that.
Amazon Prime, go.
Oh my god, the mad bagger.
Thank you for the gifted subman.
Appreciate it.
Okay, let's do some super chats.
So we have Dusker, $50 super chat.
My voice is getting a bit parched.
Can I have you?
You have a pleasant speaking.
Oh, my God.
Wildebeat donated $100.
Thank you tonight, Bricksa.
Thank you.
Pinky actually refreshingly honest.
oh for sure conservative girls you broke up an engagement you'll see and for those who haven't spoke much tonight you bring me peace like geeky hey yo wildebeest beats Thank you, man.
And yeah, actually, major credit to you.
I know you honestly, you got scorched tonight.
But I actually commend you for being so forthcoming about everything that you spoke on.
From the sex addiction to the narcotics addiction.
And I think you were really super honest.
And I'm stoked on that because a lot of people can have some hesitations about sharing some of that stuff.
So I commend you for your.
Yeah, and my family did warn me about it.
They said, this is going to come with consequences, you know.
And I said, if I can help one human being recover, that's my goal.
The best thing is that you're not justifying it in that, like, you know, it's wrong, and you don't condone it at all.
By the way, we would have children with beautiful aquiline noses.
Okay, that was cringe as fuck.
We both have big noses.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Here we have Dusker here.
I'm going to have you read these if you can.
Dusker, if you're not in the content and other guys are, she ain't the one, bro.
Every company on the planet is hiring.
Stop making excuses.
I think.
I am the one, but I'm not actually doing adult film anymore.
I'm just doing the OnlyFans.
I haven't actually filmed a video in like more than six months, right?
I don't know.
By the way, guys, I do want to apologize that we're getting to these super chats so late into the show.
Just we got a lot of TTS that came through, and then we got a really high volume of super chats.
I bumped it up two shows ago, and people weren't happy about it, so I bumped it back down.
But maybe I think I just need to bump up the TTS, maybe.
I don't know.
I'm still figuring it out.
So I know a lot.
I'm probably going to get a couple complaints in the chat about the super chat.
And I'm not making excuses.
I have a job.
I'm self-employed, so I'm not complaining.
At the time, I was really desperate for anything, but not anymore.
Okay.
We have here, actually, you can keep going.
Kerm Wooda Perm Gaming.
Bootleg Lloyd Griffin out here taking everyone's Peters while bro is door dashing.
SMH, this is madness.
Bring back the bangs girl.
Yo, Kerm, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Hold on.
That one came through.
Oh, oops.
Daniel and Go super chatted $100.
A good reminder is our actions have consequences.
Most people try to ignore it in the future.
Each yourselves this question.
Would you want your child to become what you are when they grow up?
A 304?
No.
Hey, man.
Obviously, I don't condone, like, not everyone should do the job I'm doing.
Obviously, I don't even want to do it, but it's just money and what you got to do in today's world, you know?
Gotta do what you gotta do.
All right, we have, oh, by the way, for everyone who's asking about Shania's father from last stream.
Oh, I think it expired on my Instagram.
It's in one of my highlights in my Instagram story.
There's a photo of him if you guys are curious.
Did he pass away?
Yeah, he did.
That person.
Okay.
He did.
Yeah.
Okay.
Michael Metroke.
Oh, sorry.
Eric, can you close the door, please?
Go for it.
Michael Metroke IV.
Question for the ladies.
Would you get rid of your IG for a marriageable man?
We'll go around the table on this really quick.
Yes or no?
Yes.
I would get rid of my phone and everything.
I would get rid of my phone and everything for him.
Can you push the cup?
Go ahead.
Hell yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, it's a little bit more complicated than just an account, I think.
That's my livelihood.
That's my job.
But yeah, I would.
I would get rid of it.
Social media does not need to be a part of your relationship, to be honest.
Should we pull up your Instagram?
Because you have a boyfriend.
I do have a boyfriend.
Eric.
And I do have an Instagram.
Eric, should we do a little check?
Yeah, we'll look.
We'll do a look-see.
So if your boyfriend, has he asked you to delete your Instagram?
No.
Do you get a lot of DMs from guys?
Yes.
Yeah.
I assume after this show, you're probably going to get some too.
He doesn't have an issue with it.
Well, he knows that it's inevitable.
He can't control that.
Neither can I, but we just ignore them.
Like, we just ignore them or block them if they're being weird.
What if you were to private your Instagram?
What if I were to private my Instagram?
I mean, I suppose, I mean, if your boyfriend's not asking for it, then.
And you do.
Do you post your boyfriend?
I do post my boyfriend.
Okay, well, that's better than some girls.
Some girls dating dudes for two years and they're nowhere to be found on Instagram.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't post my Instagram.
We don't have to pull it up.
I would post mine, but he says it's not good for my money, which is true because those are sent to me.
That's true.
Yep, that is true.
If he asked me to post them, I will.
And he's on my Facebook and everything else.
So, I mean, Instagram, whatever.
Yeah, again, sorry, guys, that we're getting to these at the end of the show.
Just we had a really high volume today.
So go ahead.
Oh.
Matthew John, this is the exemplification of narcissism and manipulation under the guise of money.
Mick, you have to wake up.
As someone who was subject to the same emotional abuse, it will erode your mind.
Who's the bad guy here, me or him?
Who are you attacking right now, Matthew?
Which one of us is being attacked?
No, he's saying that I'm being manipulated.
How is he being manipulated?
I'm being manipulated.
If anything, he's a man and don't really make any money, and I'm the one doing the job I don't want to do.
I could look at it from either way.
I choose to not be with her if I didn't want to, but I choose to be with her.
Standing next to each other.
There's nothing wrong with him, and there's nothing wrong with me.
I deserve to be happy, so does he.
Go for it.
JA says, Brian, as hilarious and off the hook this show sometimes is, there is something really good about it.
I honestly think this is going to do a lot of good for this country somehow.
It has a lot to do with how you steer it.
Good God's work, props.
Hey, thank you, man.
Really appreciate it.
That's quite the endorsement there, JA.
Sorry that I'm getting to your super chat so late here into the show.
Really appreciate that positive message, man.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's nice.
I hope I can, I mean, perhaps you're overselling me a little bit there, but thank you, man.
All right, we have that one came through as a TTS.
TTS, thank you guys so much for all the TTSs tonight.
Kyle, thank you, Prometheus.
Dakata B, go ahead.
Dakata B says, let's get a flex check for Mick.
He looks like he has a sleeper fit.
He looks jacked under that shirt.
Wow, that was underwhelming.
roll the sleeves up that's okay Oh, that's so cute.
Isn't this a weapons-free zone?
Yeah.
All right.
Go for it.
Black soap.
Socrates.
Socrates.
Whack.
This guy's so self-centered and weak, he would rather Keely sacrifice her standing, status, and purity than deal with customers yelling at him in a store.
You're a disgrace, and that's a fact.
Okay, well, you're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that.
But, you know, at the time, I was on the edge of not even having the job anyway that I had.
And I didn't have customers yelling at me.
I was wiping old people's butts.
So.
I don't know why I played that one.
All right.
Yo, Noah, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Honestly, rate your girl, honestly.
I don't think this came through.
Did it?
It did come through.
It did.
Oh, okay.
Okay, cool.
Let's see.
We have this one.
Yo, Mark Wavis, thank you, man.
Sivine, thank you, man.
Noah Morphus, Ram.
No one came in.
Okay.
Ian Adkins, thank you for the 55. Question for Brian.
What is your ultimate goal for this podcast?
Also, Chick in the Maroon, what's up?
Do you want to say anything to Ian Adkins?
Hello.
Okay, my ultimate goal for the podcast is, look, I need a little breathing space.
Okay, we need a little Lebens ROM.
Okay, so this is a World War I costume, guys.
It's not World War II.
Relax.
Yeah, you know, just the Sudetenland would be nice.
But yeah, I mean, honestly, just I'm enjoying as it is right now.
I'm overwhelmed with the huge increase in viewership we've had recently.
I'm overwhelmed by all the patronage we've had.
It's certainly more than I could have ever hoped for and hopefully keep growing.
And yeah, I don't know if that ultimate goal for this podcast, just yeah, keep having good conversations and having debates.
Yeah.
So, and I would like to, if I can build a solid team around me, I'd like to maybe do more shows a week, bring on co-hosts, maybe have like, I'd love to maybe even like have this same format, but like have someone, me still host it, but maybe have like, I don't know if you saw the show I did with Taytay, like maybe she could come in for like Taytay Thursday or something, and she's just like with a bunch of girls because she's she's fire.
So yeah, okay, we have Corey Jefferson, thank you for the 50 men, much appreciated.
Sonny, why don't you go ahead and read that one?
The blondie is delusional and her way of thinking is the actual problem here in Western countries.
This idea that if you choose an average guy, you are settling is idiotic.
Women.
Sorry.
Sorry, I gotta finish.
Women are and will be single and sad because of this type of narcissism.
I never said you were.
I think I was actually advocating for you to date average men.
You know what I mean?
Because the minority is high-value men.
I literally was advocating for that, so I don't know what he's talking about.
Work?
All right, we have Corey Treverson here.
Hey, Brian.
Gotta stop bringing on all these annoying Jesus people.
Lemao.
Also, for everyone, if the world was about to end and you could escape alive on a spaceship with one other human, who would it be?
Him.
My boyfriend.
My fiancé.
Oh, my dad.
On a spaceship?
So, okay.
See, I'm like a dude, so I'm going to think this shit out.
So, okay.
Are we eventually going to land on a habitable planet or are we stuck in space, you know, forever?
I'm going to assume stuck in space.
There's no people who can direct you to a new planet.
The world's done.
Because I was going to say, like, if we crash land on some like alien planet that's habitable, but there's like fucking dangerous, like, dinosaur-type shits in there, and, like, survival, like, we need basic survival.
Who's that dude?
Is it bear grills?
Who's the survival?
i'd honestly probably like i'd probably like shit maybe repopulation though so i maybe i pick a chick but i feel like i'd want like to get someone who's like got survival skills so So who's the guy who was on Joe Rogan, who was the survival guy?
Does anybody know?
Cameron Haynes, the hunter?
He was on some reality show where he got partnered with a girl in a survival situation.
Naked and Afraid?
It might have been Nate.
Yeah, I think it was Nate.
Yes, it was Naked and Afraid.
What's his name?
Neil Dick.
No.
Wait, Naked and Afraid, Joe Rogan.
Naked and Afraid.
Who's that guy?
Maybe I'll partner with him.
Forrest Galante.
Maybe I'd try to partner with Forrest Galante.
But if we're stuck on a spaceship and we're good, we're just going to die out.
Yeah, I guess a chick.
Your fiancé?
Hello.
Oh, shit.
We just got engaged.
Aren't you thrilled?
How about the rock with a spear?
Oh.
Honestly, like Jordan Peterson.
What the fuck?
Elon Musk.
Oh, man.
Elon Musk.
If I didn't have a boyfriend, I would say Elon Musk.
Wait, question.
So you're a virgin.
Do you want your partner to be a virgin?
It doesn't really matter.
so like it is a preference but i understand that that's not very common so it's not like a it's not a deal breaker but i would want i would have to see that his life truly changed and that his ways are different So if he's like, oh, okay, I'm waiting, but he still uses pornography, like, no.
You know?
Hey, we're over.
I already have the ring.
We're going to figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
Okay.
Did this one come through?
Yeah.
Okay.
That one came again.
I feel like luckily nope in that episode of Parks and Rec and the meme.
He's talking about me.
Yo, speedy, thank you, man.
So confused.
Thank you, man.
Go for it.
Like comedian John Mulaney said, men are just D salesmen.
Men are just D salesmen.
I saw this good Twitter thread recently.
It's women are marketers and men are advertisers.
Wait, I don't, whatever.
I'll pull it up on a separate stream at some future point.
Thank you, man.
Yo, thank you, Prometheus.
That came through.
Flintstone, $50 sock check.
Listen.
I'm not a cheap.
Hold on.
I got something here.
Wait, let me see if I can find it.
Do you need new pics for WikiFee?
I guess.
I'm not a cheap.
Not cheap.
It's going to cost more than that if you want a sock check.
Thank you, Flintstone.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Thank you guys all so much for all these TTSs that came through.
Okay, wow, oh my god.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay.
So it's not too bad.
I think we're pretty close here to getting, oh my, wow.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, all right.
These are all just TTSs.
Thank you so much, guys.
So we're caught up on that.
Let me just check if we have any here.
Okay, cool.
We're all caught up there.
So, let's see.
We're going to wrap here pretty soon.
Anyone have anything?
Final thought or final question or anything that they wanted to chat about.
Maybe a dating frustration you have.
Maybe men are pissing you off in some way.
Anything?
Anything?
Stop watching porn.
Agree.
Agree.
Wait, what's your take on that?
Like, why do you disagree with watching porn?
It's just like ultimate lust after something that like doesn't bring anything.
And from that, you can kind of like lack intimacy with your partner because you're always lusting after something else.
It's true.
It's not done good for anyone whatsoever.
Like it's an it usually becomes an addiction and it destroys marriages.
It destroys relationships.
It's also made really unrealistic standards for people.
And I think that's just like, what do you mean?
I think like women are supposed to look like this and they're supposed to be waxed and all of the things you typically see in adult film where it's like this is the picture perfect woman and now you have to look like that in order to receive sex or feel valued as like that kind of sexual person.
So you're not a fan of waxing?
Is what you're telling us?
Not saying that, but I think that because of like these adult kind of things, it's made women, like social media, how it's made like this picture perfect woman, that like these are the standards you now have to try to obtain in order to feel attractive or to be like a socially or yeah attractive person.
Jordan Peterson actually does talk about it, but yeah, it definitely affects the chemicals in your brain and it has this way that is certainly unnatural to get all this high and dopamine hit immediately and there's a dissatisfaction.
A lot of men you talk to and they don't feel satisfied with their relationship or girls in real life, because porn is more exciting and you can click through so many things, and we've never had this for our monkey minds for millions of years.
And now to be in this world where we have something on our phone that gives us that quick access is definitely not natural and it is definitely harming young men at a rapid rate and I think society is being impacted by it, especially future generations.
And I also feel with the rise of like OnlyFans and everything, so many people will make you sound like you're crazy if you're like, I don't want my partner to watch porn.
And then that is just bad.
Like being gaslit by whole society.
You were saying I was just going to say, I agree.
It's seen as like jealousy for some reason.
Yeah, no, it's crazy.
Yeah, if anything, it just means you care about them.
Yeah, the fact that I'm jealous and don't want him doing certain things means that I love him.
Like if you don't care what your partner does at all, like whatsoever, it's like, well, then you don't really care about them at all.
Like you can go hook up with whoever, you know, but money aside, you know, this is different, obviously.
But nobody actually wants to be with somebody who's like lusting after someone on a screen all the time or like scrolling through pictures, liking girls on Instagram, looking at girls on TikTok who are wearing like bikinis and stuff.
I mean, post what you want, but if you're with somebody, you obviously don't want your man looking at that stuff all the time.
What were you going to say?
I was just gonna say, like, consuming porn literally decreases, like, levels of testosterone.
As you were saying earlier, that's a huge issue amongst men and pornography.
Um, if I could add something, I want to add on to what he was saying about the youth.
Um, I was watching this video.
I don't know if it was like by that Jubilee YouTube, whatever.
They were doing like an anonymous thing with some teens, and they had them wear like these masks, and they were talking about porn at some point.
And one of the these young men were saying how they watched so much porn, like they were a lot of them were addicted, and they go through so many pages, and then nothing appeals to them, so they resort to something more aggressive, like transgender porn, and like just things that they would normally not watch because it's nothing will suffice at that point.
That's happened to me, like when I'm a woman.
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was actually in a relationship and I found out that like my partner was cheating on me with a guy, and he wasn't even gay.
I was like, damn, that's crazy.
Wow.
You want to comment on that?
That's crazy.
I would like to hear more about that.
Actually, that's pretty crazy.
It was wait.
Why do you want your boyfriend to comment about that?
Do I did you slept with a guy?
No, no, no, no.
Do I want to say no?
You don't need to say.
What are you trying to say?
No, I know.
No, say it.
Say it.
Into the mic.
Say it into the mic.
He's going to get mad at me if I'm wrong.
I'm going to kill her.
What the?
Oh, my God.
Okay, wait.
Anyway, it was really crazy.
So I was like with this person for probably like two years, going on three years, and we lived together.
And so I would go to work early in the morning and then he would just send out these like crazy messages to these people.
And I found this like treacherous website for like local cruising around and like all of this stuff.
So like addresses were being sent.
Yeah, I sound crazy right now.
I went to this guy's phone, obviously, because something felt wrong, but I didn't have any like proof.
So I go to this phone and I find like he has like alter ego type things and like secret emails and so much shit.
It was the craziest thing I've ever experienced.
But aside from like the cheating, I think it for me, what made me feel the most like terrible is just the deceit of like I had been sharing my life with this person.
Like, I would go to sleep next to this person every single day.
And then, yeah, it was just like.
How long were you with this guy?
Uh...
A little over two years.
And he was hooking up with dudes cruising?
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.
Yikes.
And he was so yikes.
Also, because, yeah, it was a lot.
Oh, look who it is.
I haven't recovered.
Look who finally joins us.
Mike Davis with the $50 soup chat.
Can you read this for us, dear?
Yes, of course.
Thank you.
If I were to ever be stuck in a tight capsule with one other person, it most definitely not be a female unless I was suicidal.
I'd rather bust a nut until the end of time than be confined to that bullshit.
If I ever get bored, I'll use my left hand.
Jesus.
I was like, better women.
What did you bring then, Mike?
Hold on one thing.
So Vita, right?
Did I say your name right?
Vita.
Vito?
Vita.
Vita.
Like, spell not the T, but like pronounced the T.
Oh, Vita.
Vita.
Okay, I see, I see.
Just like kind of like Vita.
You live in South Carolina, right?
Yeah.
Mike Davis is in North Carolina.
Oh, gosh.
And for your burgers, right?
Is that burgers?
Can you show Mike Davis the ring I just gave you, by the way?
All $7.
Here, do a little.
Oh, what?
White?
Yeah, do a little.
There we go.
Mike Davis, confirm or deny, would you be willing to get my fiancé some hamburgers when she goes back to the East Coast?
He owns like 255 Burger King restaurants in the Carolinas.
I looked him up and it says he's just a manager.
What?
Yeah, last night, like I looked him up.
You've got him confused.
LinkedIn.
You looked him up on LinkedIn?
Oh, I mean, I looked him up and then the LinkedIn came up.
You're telling me you looked up Mike Davis.
Yes, because he said the Burger King thing and I was like, let me check this.
And it says he's a manager.
Are you doxing Mike Davis right now?
Mike Davis doxed.
He's the manager of what?
Of the Burger King?
Yeah.
No, he's the owner.
He's the proprietor.
I mean.
He's proprietary.
Sure, but...
You think he's lying?
You think he's lying?
I mean, I would have thought if he truly, like, owned, you said 200?
It would have come up.
Like, I dare you.
Maybe he goes by a different name.
That does seem a little...
Mike Davis.
Look, this is a photo of Mike Davis.
Here, let me put it up here.
Yeah, that's Mike Davis there.
Is that a Burger King hat?
Yeah, that's a manager hat.
When do owners wear their...
Well, here's the thing, right?
Is like, he's like boots on the ground leadership.
So like, he's like those CEOs that will go in and like flip the burgers like every once in a while.
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
So like, I hope he says like free burgers.
But if Mike Davis has misrepresented his stake in Burger King restaurants to me, that is a bigger deception than your boyfriend that's sleeping with dudes.
just saying I'm saying your boyfriend your boyfriend who's like cruising for dudes like this this Mike Davis if you're Let's clarify.
Oh, ex-boyfriend.
No, we do not claim him.
Damn, that's.
I hope he's still watching and can speak for himself.
Mike Davis?
Yeah, Mike Davis.
Well, if he is the Burger King or not.
All right, we have DB here.
Mick.
Wait.
Oh, yeah.
Blink if you're being held against your will.
Never blinks.
Wait, so hold on.
I'm not going to let you guys off the hook that quick.
She was about to say that you had an orgy with dudes or some shit like that.
I was not about to say that.
You were about to say that.
There was some suspicion.
I was about to say something.
Say it.
Say it.
Do I have your consent to say it?
Consent.
I don't know what you're going to say, so you don't have consent.
What the?
I'm going to say something about the phone and the dirt.
Can I say anything?
Tell us about the dirt.
What if I found?
Mick, give her, come on, consent.
Can I give you consent?
I feel like this says enough.
Yeah, the phone and the dirt.
Okay, it's just like certain people's Instagram photos.
No, it's not just that.
It's the searching.
He's actually on websites that he shouldn't be on.
And he's on dating websites.
I'm sorry, Mick.
I didn't mean to throw you on.
He's on Tammy.
He's on Tammy.
He claims to.
I hate to do this, but anything to go viral, right?
But at least we're being aware of that.
That's not going to go viral.
What if I go viral?
You can't say that.
Wait, can I say the truth about the thing?
No.
No.
You don't have permission.
No, what's the problem?
I can't talk about Okay, I'm going to save you here, Mick And no, I'm on them for the same reason that she is, to make friends and to talk to people.
Yeah, that's why we're here, is to make friends and talk to people.
Welcome to the whatever council, whatever relationship counseling services.
Yeah.
Do we, I don't push on this one, I don't think.
I don't think I dig on this one.
Okay.
You really threw your boyfriend under the bus there, if I'm going to say it, though.
You threw him under the bus.
Into the mic.
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Yes, but I'm not trying to, but I'm tempted to because of something she said, and then it just popped in my mind.
Because you're upset?
I mean, something that bothers me.
Well, she's jealous of me.
I got my stuff.
Feel free to throw me in there, too.
I don't want to.
I'm doing it, but I've gotten better about it.
I don't.
When you say talking to other people, are you talking to other women or other men?
Other women, other people.
I don't know.
It's just, but generally, like, you know, like the Bumble Friends or something.
She found me on doing that or talking to people.
And she's like, oh, are you meeting?
I haven't met anyone on any of these apps.
And then even going on Instagram and liking photos of other girls, like I stopped doing it.
I mean, when we were first together, yes, I was going on and still doing it.
I was still following a lot of other girls.
But eventually I learned like, you know, it's proper when you're in a relationship not to do that stuff and everything.
But I grew over time.
She was my first serious relationship, you know.
She still has an issue.
She's still held up on it.
Do you play for both teams?
No.
Okay, so you're straight.
But he told that.
I never told you anything.
He said that he...
Closer to the mic.
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Scoot your chair in if you have to.
Oh my gosh.
So it's not really.
Oh my gosh, do I really want to say this?
I do want to say this.
I'm not going to evil, though.
but like what if it but what if it what if it helps somebody else What if it helps somebody else?
It's not helping anybody.
Just trying to embarrass me and say things that are not evil.
Honestly, honestly, you're right, but also not right because it's something that I need advice on.
But I don't know.
I don't have no one to talk to but you about this thing that I can't talk about.
You can talk to me.
But you're not always honest about it.
I am honest with you.
For the most part, but you know.
This is not the whatever podcast anymore.
Yo, I'm going to pull the super chat back up.
Meg, is there something you want to tell us?
No, she's just trying to, she's just trying to go viral, right?
Not true at all.
Do you guys, wait, I'll let you go in just a sec.
Do you guys live in Santa Barbara or you live like Solving or some shit?
Santa Barbara.
We live in Nesby.
What?
Mike Davis?
It didn't trigger.
Oh, did he do it through, oh, it's a soup chat.
Never had a LinkedIn, so this female is talking out her blank.
I don't blank with Caucasian women, so it's a no from me.
If it's snowing, I ain't going.
If it ain't brown, it ain't down.
I ain't down.
Oh, I ain't down.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
No problem.
I'm engaged.
Yeah, I know.
No, no, no.
It was more like Mike Davis is the homie.
So it was more just like, you know, he could get you some Burger King gift cards and maybe a complimentary burger.
No burger.
Okay.
Well, I'll say what it actually is.
I'll say what it actually is.
Okay, one time I found him searching for something, but it was because of a pop-up ad because of, you know how when you watch movies and you pirate them?
I saw something and it wasn't what I thought.
So, like, you know, those ads that come up with like inappropriate websites.
This is going to be a really awkward car ride back home for you.
Not really.
Nothing's awkward unless you make it awkward.
Jesus.
I'm not awkward at all.
I really don't care.
I don't care.
I'm just saying that it wasn't really a big deal.
It was just something like, because sometimes we don't want to go on Netflix because there's nothing to watch.
So I wanted to watch a movie.
He wanted to watch, what movie was it?
The Pirates of the Caribbean.
It was some movie.
I do.
W Super Chattano $99.99.
Red.
How does it feel to contribute photos and videos that continue to deteriorate the human mind?
You stay with McNott because you're the best he can do, but because he's the best you can do.
We're both amazing.
I'm not toxic.
I'm an awesome person.
And screw you.
You're toxic.
I'm great.
He's great.
We love each other.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be together.
We wouldn't be together if we didn't love each other, obviously.
So I'm amazing.
I can get anybody I want.
And anyone who doesn't want me, I probably don't want to be able to do it.
Are you going to stand for that, Mick?
Stand for whatever you want.
She does have suitors going after her, even though we're together every day, often.
Has she ever slashed her tires?
No, because we only have one car.
Oh, it'd kind of be like a self-inflicted wound.
Wait, I'm going to move away from this.
Okay, so do you have a brother?
I do have a brother.
Older, younger?
Younger.
Younger, how old?
16.
Oh, okay.
Never mind.
I was going to ask a dating-related question of his experience, but I assume he's too young to really be dating you.
He tells me that he has too many hoes.
Too of a girlfriend.
My 16-year-old brother.
Your 16-year-old bro, he's got too many hoes.
Yes.
He's only 1%.
That's what he says.
Your little bro's a chad.
Is he watching, you think?
I don't know.
Is he in the chat?
Honestly, I haven't seen his name.
Shout out, little brother.
Yeah, he's like a gamer, popular water polo player.
Oh, water polo.
Okay, okay.
So he's got too many hoes, is his problem.
Yes.
All right.
Just curious there.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let me check if we have any.
Oh, oh, from Indonesia.
Okay, what's up?
Hold on.
Lucia, thank you for the 50.
Hello from Indonesia Q.
We want men to value sex by not watching corn, but women also get angry if men care about body count.
When I think men who care about body count is because they think sex is valuable.
Isn't ignoring body count add isn't ignoring body count add up to hookup culture?
I don't think so at all.
I think if you if you don't care about body count and we don't have hookup culture, why would you need to care about body count?
If everybody's body count's low, right?
Why would you need to care?
Well, it would just you would be caring about it.
Yeah, but like if you ass if there's no hookup culture, right, and you assume your body count's low because there's no hookup culture, why would you need to care?
Well, I mean, if money grew on trees, then that would be cool, but it's a bit of a hypothetical scenario because there is a hookup culture.
And I mean, throughout, even when there wasn't a hookup culture, men throughout all of human history, actually, I think both genders throughout all human history valued chastity, valued sexual purity, both men and women for religious reasons chiefly.
Although men were more invested in it because one of the reasons men care about a woman's body count or a woman's promiscuity, if a woman's promiscuous, you cannot guarantee paternity.
So one of the biggest L's as a guy that you can take is raising a child that's not yours.
So a promiscuous woman or a woman who's not a virgin, if she's sleeping with other men and she gets pregnant, then you can't guarantee who the father is.
Now, obviously, today in the past, I think DNA test came around in the 1980s, now we can determine who is the father.
However, that doesn't undo our evolution and our biology for men having a evolutionary hardwired desire to know that the child that we're raising and investing our time, energy, and resources in is actually our child.
So I think that's one of the reasons why men care more about promiscuity and body count than women for evolutionary and biological reasons.
Because as a woman, if you get pregnant, you know for certainty the child is yours.
However, if a man you it's unless you get a paternity test, there's really no way to ensure that.
And the way they ensured that as best as they could in the past was with virgins.
If the woman's a virgin, she's had sex with no other men, you know for certain that if you have a child with her, that the child is yours.
Yeah, I think, but even like back in the day, right?
I think you could tell if a woman was promiscuous.
Because sex work and prostituting has been, has existed since the dawn of time.
Women, as soon as women figured out that they could commodify off of sex, that's what they did.
So it's like it was in the olden days.
So everyone thinks this whole OnlyFans stuff is new.
It's not, you know, but like, yeah, I think a true promiscuous woman like carries it with her.
Like you can tell when a woman's sleeping around.
So.
Yeah, you can, I mean, there's definitely indicators.
Although I would say that there are definitely some unassuming women who you would not think who are shy and quiet and introverted and reserved and aren't blasted with tattoos.
And they can be, there's some promiscuous chicks out there that you might not be able to, I'm not, and by the way, if you have tattoos, it's not for sure that you're promiscuous, but like that is one indicator that men are going to look at, be like, is she heavily tatted?
She's maybe, again, you might, you could be super relationship status, but men do look at the degree to which you tattoo yourself and think she might, she might be more promiscuous because of how fucking blasted she is on her fucking, you know, full sleeves or whatever it is, you know?
So.
Well, I'm sure you looked at me and like did not assume that like sex addict was the words that were going to come out of my mouth, right?
Because it's like, whoa, like, you know, it's just like shocking.
But yeah, so I agree with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, most, I think a lot of guys can pro can tell.
I mean, you know, it's in your behavior, it's how you move.
So, although, but again, we've, we've had women on the show who you would never think it, like very demure, mellow, like very reserved.
And they, like, we had a 19-year-old girl who had slept with 33 people.
And she was like super, like, super sweet, very calm, reserved, and just.
So stay safe out there, gentlemen, because some sometimes they're unassuming.
Okay.
So, shit, I had one final question, but it slipped my mind.
Did anyone else have like a question or anything?
Yeah, not so much a question.
And we talked about it a bit earlier, but I just wanted to comment on how refreshing I think this conversation is.
Shockingly, we're very different people, but all of us have come together on a multitude of very countercultural talking points tonight.
Rejecting the pornography industry, rejecting the idea of hookup culture, quitting your hormonal birth control, waiting until you're married to have sex, wanting committed long-term relationships.
These are all things that very much go against the grain of what culture tells us we should be embracing and running toward.
And I have nothing but hope for our generation, despite so many people telling us that we are hopeless and destroying the foundation of Western society.
Conversations like this need to be happening more.
And I'm just really refreshed and encouraged by this.
Well, hey, good times.
Thank you.
Okay.
Anybody else?
Anybody else?
Speak now or forever hold your peace.
Nick, final thought?
Follow my friend Jake McCollum.
He has a smaller YouTube channel.
Just being a good friend.
Okay.
What's that term called?
Shameless plug.
Okay.
You can follow my Instagram too.
All right.
Okay.
I feel like I have one last question.
Going out to the bars.
Gamers, did we talk about, we were talking about gamers.
Oh, yeah, guys.
Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
Twitch.tv slash whatever.
Link is in the description.
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All the chat and the comments and everything.
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Okay, so, oh, let's wrap on the Patrice clip.
Let's do Patrice O'Neal.
Eric, can you pull up the Patrice O'Neal clip?
Oh, here, pull this one up real quick.
Hashtag free Mick.
Mick?
You're free to go if you want to, but.
Bro, like I said, that's going to be a fucking awkward ride home.
Right?
Or is it good?
Are you guys good?
There's a little tension.
Like I said, I let go of things.
I'm very calm and fine right now.
Anybody?
I've been with another five years.
A little tension.
There's no tension.
Why is there tension?
I detected a little tension.
Just a little bit.
You're a gaslighter, Brian.
I'm gaslighting.
Do you want there to be tension?
No.
Do you want there to be tension?
There isn't any.
Well, you were, you were, what?
Well, you know, sometimes we don't agree on everything, so sometimes we can get a little annoyed for a minute, but that's not.
I'm fine.
We definitely, definitely have our disagreements.
You were airing his dirty laundry a little bit.
That's where the tension is.
Did I say anything?
Did I say anything?
I mean, you kind of alluded to him being potentially gay.
I don't know.
Which I'm not.
That seemed like the direction it was going.
I don't know.
Anyways, not that there's anything wrong with it.
I'm literally just referring to like an ad pop-up on Google.
You know, when you're watching a movie, you're pirating it, and you see some corn on the internet that you're not supposed to see.
Then what did you need advice for?
It was about what you think about bumble.
Like if your boyfriend, girlfriend has bumble.
Like, do you think that's okay?
Keely, you're on OnlyFans.
Yeah.
You're getting fucked by other dudes.
Give him a little space.
Not anymore.
No, you're still.
What do you mean not anymore?
I haven't even gone doing a video in more than six months.
So I haven't touched anyone else in six months except for him.
Okay, but fine.
But you had previously.
Do you still strip?
I haven't gone to the club in over like a week or two.
But I don't.
I'll quit today.
I said I will quit are we should we is this like an intervention Is this like your coming to Christ moment?
I mean.
Can we get some Deus Volt?
I want to see Deus Volt in the chat, boys.
Okay.
Wait, so the whole thing about you stopping your OnlyFans, is that really it?
Because you're probably going to get some followers after the show.
But what if I don't post anything?
What if I'm just getting followers?
Or what if I just post a picture of me in like a regular outfit like this, like a selfie without anything?
Because no one knows what you have on there until they subscribe.
Are you going to keep the ahi gal and the like group scenes up?
The web?
Are you going to keep your existing content up?
I mean, I can't really take it down if it's online, but if it's on OnlyFans, I can take it down.
Yeah, that's what I want me to.
Do you want me to take it down?
No, she has great photos on there.
Right.
You want her to keep making money, I assume.
Yes, they're very nice photos.
Okay.
Very, you know, good pics.
So are you going to do it?
Is she deleting her OnlyFans or what?
No, I don't think she should.
If anything, that would be the one thing she shouldn't.
Deus Volt in the chat.
Okay.
What is it?
I'll start one, to be fair.
I'll just post feet pics.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
One last question for you.
So you said eight body count, correct?
Correct.
Okay.
So you're 18.
that mostly through high school was it like all of them were high school besides my boyfriend now Are you from Santa Barbara?
No, I'm from San Diego.
San Diego.
Would you say like amongst like in high school for people in San Diego, is there like a pretty big hookup culture in high school?
Absolutely.
Really?
Okay.
In like middle school for kids, like elementary school using.
It's not that bad now.
Elementary school?
In Chicago, the public school district is handing out free condoms to everyone starting in fifth grade.
So 10 years old.
Oh my God.
What the fuck?
There's a crazy story about Isla Vista elementary school and how like a janitor like caught some like fourth grade.
Okay, well we know where you're going with that, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a yikes.
That's a hippie.
I was a virgin until I was like 17 and a half, so I mean lucky.
Same.
Sorry.
Well, what about them putting condoms in the woman's restroom?
What about too at women's prisons even, which tells you something?
Tells you that something isn't allowed to go on in there, which shouldn't be allowed.
Well, and this might be a controversial take, but I don't think male prison guards should be working in women's prisons.
Like it just, it creates like a horrible creates a risk because that guy and everyone wants something, clearly.
Yeah, it creates like procuring prostitution.
He could just go and armor the girls if he wanted to, and it's a prison.
Nobody's doing anything.
Female prison officers do that too, though.
That's true.
But they have a better chance of fighting back, you know?
Like if a big old CO man is coming at you, what are you going to do?
We also have like men who identify as women going and impregnating.
It seems like we all agree on that topic before even getting.
That's pretty scary.
I mean, what do you do at that point?
Last question.
Last question.
Oh, just I wanted to go around the table on this.
How does everyone like identify politically?
Politically, I would say neutral, but a little more on the conservative side.
Oh, okay.
I'm pretty much straight down the middle moderate.
I go a little more liberal.
I would say a moderate libertarian that's a little more right-leaning.
Same.
I feel like I'm pretty neutral with more conservative views.
I don't know.
I have been finding myself agreeing more with conservative views in the past few months.
So.
A little closer to the mic.
Oh, well.
Yeah, it's fine.
Very conservative.
I think the thumbnail speaks for itself.
I guess I agree.
Wow, I wanted to maybe, I would have liked to have tried to stack the panel a little more, have some liberals, but I mean, it seems like pretty moderate overall panel, I would say, generally, with some perhaps leaning a bit more conservative, even.
Okay, so I mean, the follow-up question, the reason I ask is because my follow-up question was going to be, would you date a guy who's conservative?
Yes.
Are we going one by one again?
Yeah, we'll start with you.
My boyfriend is very conservative, so yes.
I would date a conservative guy.
I don't think he'd want anything to do with me.
So I like my liberal, skinny boys that are, you know.
Okay.
All right.
I think as long as we align with the same core values, you know, I think that's important.
Okay.
Well.
Oh, yeah, us together.
You know, I'm conservative.
I want to be with the conservative guy.
So what we got is good.
I would actually only date a like a more conservative, moderate leader.
Are you guys conservative, though?
I mean.
I would say not lifestyle-wise, but politically.
And I think that it matters that much in a relationship because if I was to be with a woke leftist person, I would, it's just like, what are we going to go on one date?
We're not going to agree on anything.
It's just that way.
But, you know, lifestyle-wise, yeah, we don't necessarily, we're kind of like free-spirited hippies more.
Eric, could you open the door?
Go ahead.
I think I would.
Sure.
Well, and I assume you guys, since you're conservative, you date.
I'm marrying one.
God bless.
Would you guys, assuming, like, let's say you weren't in a relationship right now, would either of you two date a liberal guy?
Absolutely not.
Depends on how you're defining the word liberal.
I think by today's standards, a classically liberal worldview is by modern standards considered conservative.
And you're starting to see that benchmark transition very substantially before our eyes.
Would I date a leftist?
No.
Okay, so you're saying like classical liberal?
Yeah.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Brian?
Yeah.
What about you?
Because we're engaged in this.
I think this is pretty important.
Yeah.
I mean, I would date.
I would date.
Are you liberal or conservative?
It's, I mean, I don't, I've previously said I consider myself kind of moderate center.
I don't.
I don't know.
I'd have to go down each issue one by one.
Because I think, I don't know, it's hard to say what exactly I am.
I think I'm probably fairly moderate.
I think I'm right-leaning on stuff.
Maybe on some stuff I'm left-leaning.
I would have to really go down each issue one by one with you.
Because I guess there's a specific term for this.
I guess what I don't like to see is I think people can have a conservative view on one thing and a liberal view on another.
And I think it's kind of bad.
It's not necessarily bad, but if you know someone's position on one political issue, you shouldn't really be able to know their position on the rest.
However, if you know their nowadays, if you know someone's position on one issue, you can pretty much guess.
A lot of moderate people on the right are for, like, there's that saying of, like, I want a gay couple to protect their pot farm with a gun, you know?
And that's the saying.
And a lot of people, I think, who are very moderate nowadays on the left and right both have that viewpoint, you know.
Most polling is saying that we as a generation within Gen Z are politically homeless.
So 52% of us are registering as independent, not as Republicans or Democrats when we're registering to vote.
And I think that's going to start to show really substantially.
It did in November, certainly, but will again next year.
And I'm anxious to see, because I think most people would agree with you, Brian, that it's not a blanket statement.
It's not a letter next to your name.
It's a lot more nuanced and complicated than that.
Yeah.
So, I mean, to answer the question, I mean, I would date a conservative girl.
I suppose I would date a liberal girl.
It's really hard because, like you said, these are kind of blanket terms.
And like, what does that actually mean?
Because, you know, someone who identifies as conservative, that can manifest itself in various ways in terms of what they actually believe.
And so I think there is a bit of a variety that I forgot there's this exact term for it, political cohesion.
I don't know.
It doesn't really matter.
But, okay, we have Luke here just tuned in.
A lot of things are making sense about OF Girl now.
Keely, your response.
What things are making sense?
Good question.
Good question.
I think that's it.
Oh, okay.
One last firecracker question for the.
I don't know.
Would you date a guy who's pro-Do I want to go here?
Yes, do it, Luke.
Do it.
You do it.
We've been here long enough.
Okay, let's do it.
Would you date?
Last question, then we're going to wrap.
Would you date a guy who is pro-life?
Yes.
Well, your boyfriend's conservative, so is he very pro-life.
But why, I guess, why the hesitation?
Because I guess before I was super like politically informed, I would say, like before, like years ago, before I even met my boyfriend, I was super pro-choice.
It's your body.
You got to decide whatever you want.
Interesting.
I don't know.
He kind of opened a new perspective to me about pro-life and abortion and all of this.
So that's why I hesitated because I guess I like I would date a guy who's pro-life or pro-choice.
Okay.
But so up until you met your current boyfriend, you were pro-choice?
Yes.
Okay.
And having dated him, he kind of maybe started introducing some more conservative thoughts.
And so you changed your view on it.
I wouldn't say I completely shifted my view.
I'm still kind of like in the air between the two right now.
Sure.
Okay.
Got it.
So the answer is yes.
Oh.
Interesting.
Okay.
If my boyfriend was pro-life, it depends on how.
Would you date a guy who's pro-life?
Yeah.
It depends on how pro-life he is, if that makes any sense.
Like if he's like, no, you know, you know what's, then I would just be like, like, I don't think we can see eye to eye on like cultural differences and like understanding why people do the things they do.
So I think it would just be a statement of his values.
But if he could understand circumstances surrounding it, then maybe, yeah.
What about you?
I think I agree.
I think my immediate choice was to say like no, because I personally am pro-choice.
I think that I know we talked a little about like birth controls and things and how that's kind of been subject to why women are kind of more prone because they feel more protected.
I think that it's not something that should be used loosely.
I think that it's like these are for serious cases, but it should be available for those cases of like SA or anything that happened like that.
And again, like kind of like you said, how it's kind of like situational.
If they're like, oh, across the board, just like always, I think probably not.
But if it's like, if they understand the situations where you could see that, that could be useful.
I think, yeah.
By the way, is this, I mean, is this kind of like dragging the show on to bring this up at the end of the show I don't know.
Is it maybe people seem to be commenting on it, so I don't know.
I feel like it's a bit more difficult.
I want to be considerate of everyone's time here before we get into it.
We are, so yeah.
Okay.
I would.
I think abortion is like a really evil thing.
And if a guy is like pro-choice on that, I feel like they would try to push me to have an abortion if I ever got pregnant.
That is something I will never, ever do.
Man, I should have brought some more liberal girls on the show.
It's a little too stacked.
Sorry, I think you're the only, I apologize.
I would have tried.
I'm standing my ground.
No, no, I mean, it's fine.
I just feel like you're maybe one against too many.
So I feel like that's perhaps a bit unfair to you.
But go ahead.
You said if he was pro-life?
Would you date a guy who's pro-life?
Yeah, as long as he's consistent.
Because, you know, like, I feel like there's some people who are, like, pro-life but against the death penalty.
Well, I don't know if those two...
Or pro-death penalty, I mean.
I don't think that those two are necessarily the same.
I think that there is a correlation because it's still a human life.
But I think that I am ultimately also pro-choice, but I'm also calling it for what it is.
You are terminating a life.
So you are permitting, you are killing a being.
Sure.
Sure, do what you want, but call it what it is so that you don't try to make yourself feel better by being like on the right.
And actually, I would say that in terms of the thing about the death penalty, I think actually probably a lot of, well, I don't know.
It's hard to say.
I don't know if they've done studies on this, but I think a lot of people are actually, a lot of people are against the death penalty.
And I could definitely see a lot of pro-life people being against the death penalty, chiefly because if you innocent people get convicted of crimes, so I think that's one really strong argument against the death penalty.
Okay.
We'll get to that in a.
We'll get to that.
And then we have to do that.
That's right.
The Patrice clip, then we'll wrap.
I'm sorry, guys, that we've gone a little long here, but I think it's been a really good conversation.
I think we'll wrap in about 10 minutes, guys.
Thank you for your patience.
Okay, so death penalty, there's obviously the risk of someone innocent getting convicted.
So I think a really strong argument against the death penalty is, hey, in the event of someone who's innocent being convicted of a crime where there's a death penalty potentiality, then I think that's a good reason.
Also, it's actually more expensive.
There's more a burden on taxpayers to enact the death penalty on someone because there's so many, there's like automatic appeals or something, and then it takes years and years.
And it's actually, apparently it's cheaper to just give someone a life sentence.
So for those two reasons, I'm kind of against the death penalty.
Although I suppose there are scenarios where it's undeniable that the person committed the crime and the crime is so egregious and so heinous that conceivably perhaps death is an appropriate punishment.
But I think the fact that innocent people have been put to death and the burden on taxpayers, I think life imprisonment is, I don't know, anyways.
Anyways, that's totally not related to dating, but yeah.
I don't know.
I can't derail the conversation there.
Did you want to come in on something?
I mean, short answer, I'm marrying somebody who's as pro-life as I am.
This has been an issue that I learned a bit about growing up, but really didn't encounter until I was studying fetal development in college as part of my pre-med curriculum and spent months learning about every single tiny thing that happens in the womb, every insane, impossible miracle that has to happen for us to even make it to a point of viability outside the womb, be born, be sitting here today.
We could literally spend a PhD course talking about all of that, so I won't.
I just find it so fascinating that this has become such a polarizing subject in a follow-the-science society when the science is abundantly clear about the reality that that's a genetically unique human life that's never existed before.
It never will exist again.
And 96% of biologists across more than a thousand higher education institutions, most of whom are pro-choice, call themselves pro-choice, all agree that life begins at conception.
So that's an interesting study to go research from Princeton University.
But I am extremely proud to be pro-life.
I believe that abortion is the single greatest genocide that the human race has ever faced and has stolen one-third of our generation in America, which is unbelievably tragic.
Continues to steal millions of lives every day.
And if your man is not pro-life, go find a better one.
Okay, let's talk about Andrew Tate.
Big squish.
Your thoughts on Andrew Tate?
I love Andrew Tate.
I wouldn't say love, but like, I like him.
I like his morals.
I like the way he talks.
He has confidence.
He has a lot of common sense.
Like, he just knows what he's doing.
He's a very smart man, and you can just see that from the way he speaks.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
So this could be really long, but I'm going to make it short.
I at least respect Andrew Tate for the fact that he walks the walk.
He's got like three, four plus girlfriends, you know what I mean?
Like he's killing it with women.
And I feel like a lot of times when high-value men give other men advice, they're not that they're not slaying it out there, but they're either single or just like not even in a relationship, you know?
So I respect him for that, but I, with that being said, I'll probably just let the Romanian government do the talking for me and shut my mouth.
I honestly don't know enough about the subject to be able to do that.
Sure, totally fine.
He said things that I agree with and disagree with.
I think that he's being held illegally in the prison currently, and I do believe everybody has the right to a fair trial.
Have I ever subscribed to his Hustlers University or listened to all his clips and everything?
No, not certainly.
I'm not into that.
But I do think he's said a lot of things that the establishment does not like, and that is why he is being held illegally.
And I do think that's very wrong.
Free speech, you know.
Same here.
I agree with basically what he just said.
I like his message.
I feel like he does have a lot of common sense and makes valid points.
I don't know that I like his character and the act that he plays all the time.
So it's kind of like a, I don't know, 70, 30.
Sure.
I think he's a genius in his own right.
And but like, I also don't agree with everything that he says, and I do agree that he deserves a fair trial.
I think Top G is quite fitting for him, but I completely, like, the one thing I completely disagree with is the fact that he says that him, like, cheating on his woman is not considered cheating because he's a man and it's okay and it doesn't make a difference.
Completely disagree with that.
I think he needs, at the end of the day, he needs the Lord.
He needs the Lord?
He needs the Jesus.
Well, he's a Muslim now.
Did you know that?
Right, I know, but his brother is.
Tristan's a Christian.
Yeah.
Tristan's pro.
Technically, Andrew Tate is supposed to annihilate his brother.
Oh, because of the booze.
Oh, okay, okay.
Right, but What about you?
A lot to unpack there.
I've spent a lot of time touching on this subject over the last several months, really before any of the Romanian government trial conversation remotely started.
But for whatever reason, mainstream media has gone after Andrew Tate with a vile hatred, unlike anything I have ever seen.
And I wonder how much of that has to do with the assault on masculinity that our culture has propped up for so very long.
I don't agree with every lifestyle choice that anybody makes, any human being, particularly Andrew Tate.
I think there's a lot to be said about promiscuity and cheating and dating multiple people at once that I personally do not align with as my worldview and my perspective religiously on the world.
But our culture and our world is hungry for male role models, people who are going to encourage men to embrace masculinity and be the person that God designed for them to be.
And the role that He has played through that process has transformed so many people's lives for the better.
It's very fun to read the headlines with people freaking out about that and the posts on social media about it.
But it just goes to show you how countercultural it is to tell a man that they can have value in themselves, that they can become a better version of themselves and embrace who they were supposed to be.
Okay.
All right.
That's everyone's thoughts on Andrew Tate.
All right, Eric.
By the way, guys, if you want, we're going to react to Patrice O'Neill.
So if you want, get your last-minute TTS or super chat in.
Otherwise, yeah, we're going to watch this Patrice O'Neill clip.
If any super chats come in, we'll get to them after the clip.
And then, yeah, we're going to wrap up pretty soon.
All right, go ahead, Eric, if you want to pull up that priest.
Oh, F11, please.
11, please.
Let me ask you a question.
Here's a question.
Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die.
How would you keep your man past?
You get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because you just lost a pussy in a train accident.
Can't just walk right out on him.
How would you keep your man past that, if you didn't have a giant?
Go ahead.
So terrible train accident.
What do you do to keep your man?
I'm still gathering my thoughts right now, so I'll pass on to him.
Okay, we'll come back to you.
Go ahead.
God dang it.
Well, I guess I would let him sleep with other women.
Honestly, sure.
I feel like there's other means of things like oral or hand things that you could do.
Totally.
Keely, we'll skip you because you've already agree with you.
I just feel like that that's even, I don't know, that's crazy.
If I went through a crazy accident like that and then my husband was like, can I sleep with other women?
But so the question is, the question is, you know, terrible train accident.
Had to remove the, you know.
Yeah.
What do you do to keep your man?
Well, I mean, if he's my husband and we're like already together, I feel like I've already done everything that I can do and I'm going to continue to be a good wife to him.
Okay.
Did you think of something?
That's honestly like exactly what I would say.
Like I would not let my man go do things with other woman.
Like to keep my man, I think like, I don't know, I'm already doing enough to keep him.
Like, so I would say like personality is enough.
Like you don't need sex in a relationship, I would say.
Like it does.
I would say, okay, you don't need sex in a relationship, but it's nice.
And I think that sex, like if you have sex in a relationship, like it does like bring you closer to your partner intimacy-wise, but you don't need it.
Okay, what about you?
I would let him have sex with other women, but I would also still do what I'm doing now that has allowed me to keep my mandates on.
And yeah.
I don't have an answer, honestly.
Like, okay.
All right.
I just love that I can answer this question with the reality that I am marrying my fiancé through biblical matrimony in sickness and in health for better or worse.
This is one of those worst scenarios.
And I think we view marriage as incredibly disposable today.
How unbelievably shallow for us to suggest that just because you can't continue doing one activity in your marriage, all of a sudden your marriage is going to fall apart.
Okay.
All right.
Those are some answers there.
Continue the clip, please.
Wow.
Nothing.
You can talk.
You can talk.
Suck his dick.
Okay.
Mouth.
Asshole.
Okay, great.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Now, I've been getting pussy beamed the whole show, right?
But I give women an opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
But, but, you know, I'm.
I'm supposed to teach you special, but you're just a bunch of hoes to yourself.
No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
Well, look, whatever.
Okay, some of you.
Oh, go ahead.
I will say that I've already watched this.
Oh, you saw it?
Okay.
And I also saw the podcast on Sunday.
I was watching, but my answer, like, still the same.
Sure.
Yeah, some of you took the bait, some of you didn't.
So we'll leave it at that.
Anyways, I want to thank everyone for tuning in tonight.
Let me just double check here, make sure we don't have any, no, we're good.
All right.
Thank everyone for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chatted and supports the show.
Your patronage is very much appreciated.
Thank you guys so much.
You guys blew me away tonight with all the support.
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
And thank you guys so much.
So maybe if you guys want to give me any feedback in terms of do I adjust, you know, how much, just because the vol I'm super appreciative, but the volume was, I felt like a couple people, a few times, got interrupted by the TTS.
So I'm going to go back and tinker with it and see if I bump up the TTS again.
I don't know.
But in any case, thank you to everyone who patronizes, supports the show.
Thank you guys.
Big thank you to the wonderful panel.
We went a bit late tonight, guys, but it was a very really good panel, I think.
Very good panel.
So thank you guys all so much for coming.
And thank you to all our chat mods.
And I feel like I'm forgetting.
I'm needing to thank somebody, but I'm.
Oh, thank you, Eric, the top producer, the top G, the top P.
Okay, okay.
I feel I'm forgetting somebody else.
Anyways, any women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
BD underscore atlas if you are shorter Avenati.
Okay, guys, we'll be live again Sunday.
Wait, is today Tuesday?
Tuesday, Tuesday.
We'll be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
Thanks again for tuning in.
We will see you next time.
Good night, guys.
Deus Volt in the chat.
Good night, guys.
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