Dating Talk #53
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Dating Talk is LIVE on youtube.com/whatever Sunday & Tuesday at 7:00 PM Pacific Time
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| Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California. | |
| Every Sunday and Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas. | |
| I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki. | |
| She's a bit shy. | |
| Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins. | |
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| Oh, wait, this might be. | |
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| We're good. | |
| Yeah, that's her Instagram. | |
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| By the way, guys, today's episode is proudly sponsored by Blue Chew. | |
| Woo! | |
| Hold on, let me. | |
| Yeah, Blue Chew. | |
| Look at that. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I got a bigger one, too. | |
| I think, yeah. | |
| Thank you, Blue Chew. | |
| So Blue Chew is an online service that helps men get access to chewable tablets that helps them achieve stronger and longer-lasting erections. | |
| Everything is done online. | |
| So there's no awkward in-person visit to the doctor. | |
| And you get the medication shipped to you. | |
| So there's no awkward pharmacy visit either. | |
| Okay. | |
| Get your first month of Blue Chew for free with my code whatever. | |
| All you got to do is chew it and do it. | |
| Anyways, guys, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. | |
| So, please tell us your name, age, and occupation. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Hi, I'm Kazumi. | |
| I'm turning 26 next week. | |
| Yay! | |
| I do porn. | |
| And I took a Blue Chew last week because the Blue Chew will flush out your period. | |
| Just saying. | |
| You took a Blue Chew last week. | |
| For the ladies, yeah. | |
| For the ladies, Viagra, when you take it and you have a pussy, the blood flow will make your period stop. | |
| So I was able to have a day without my period, like in the middle of my period, like week. | |
| Okay. | |
| Just saying. | |
| So wait, you took a Blue Chew? | |
| I did, and I chewed it like a dude. | |
| Okay. | |
| Or I guess the way anyone would chew a Blue Chew. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But yeah, women can take it and it can chill with, it could make their period chill out. | |
| Okay, by the way, this was not planned. | |
| The executives at Blue Chew. | |
| Not in the past. | |
| It's an experiment I tried out. | |
| People on my close friends saw it. | |
| Like, I was like, what happens if you take a pill that'll make all the blood flow flow to your genitals? | |
| She's always trying to find new ways to stop her period. | |
| I hate my period. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't know if that usage is endorsed by Blue Chew, but the views expressed by the panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of whatever the hosts. | |
| Or Blue Chew. | |
| Okay, Ivan. | |
| Anyways, did you finish your intro, by the way? | |
| I think that's a good question. | |
| And my Instagram and YouTube and all my handles are Kazumi's World. | |
| Okay. | |
| Did you say your age, by the way? | |
| I'm turning 26 next week. | |
| 26 next week. | |
| Okay. | |
| Hi, my name is Michaela, and I am 30 years old. | |
| I know I don't look it apparently. | |
| Thanks. | |
| I am an entrepreneur, so I am a fitness instructor. | |
| I also do self-love and mindset coaching. | |
| And I am in network marketing. | |
| I have a health and wellness business with Arbonne. | |
| I am a regional vice president with the company. | |
| Very cool. | |
| Hi, my name is, yes, it's. | |
| So thank you for having me back. | |
| My name is Mia. | |
| I do porn mostly on OnlyFans, and I am 21 years old. | |
| Also, I would like to say that in the industry, any kind of Viagra is mostly known as Blue Chew. | |
| So if Blue Chew comes up again, it's not specifically that company, but that's just the kind of nickname we all give it. | |
| Oh, that's just like the slang, I guess. | |
| It's like when you say Coke, you mean all pop, but it's like, yeah. | |
| Wait, so you're 21? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is that your actual age? | |
| That's why I said, yeah, that's what I'm saying. | |
| Wait, I thought you said you were 23. | |
| I'm not 23. | |
| Okay, I'm getting my wife's side. | |
| You might be mixing up with my friend who said she was 47. | |
| And then who was actually 23, who's older than 23. | |
| But okay, go ahead. | |
| Go ahead, Sydney. | |
| Hi, I'm Sydney. | |
| I'm 22, and I'm an actress, but I go to school right now. | |
| Sydney, do you know that the viewers have dubbed you Thickney? | |
| That's your nickname. | |
| Yeah, I guess so. | |
| Oh, hell yeah. | |
| All right, Thickney's in the chat, boys. | |
| All right, so we're going to go around the table once more. | |
| So, current relationship status, longest relationship. | |
| Go ahead, please. | |
| My longest relationship is like over four years, and my current relationship is about three and a half, and I'm in an open relationship because I do porn. | |
| Open relationship. | |
| But you are sleeping with other people outside of your work? | |
| That's what an open relationship is. | |
| It means, yeah, it's open. | |
| Okay. | |
| But you said you're in an open relationship because you do corn. | |
| Oh, should I say corn instead? | |
| Yeah, moving on. | |
| I'm a farmer. | |
| It's all good. | |
| Yeah, she's a farmer. | |
| I'm like a farmer planting my seeds. | |
| Is it open in the sense that it's open because the other people that you sleep with or hook up with, it's within the context of work, or is it also just open angel? | |
| It's a little outside of work, yeah. | |
| Sure. | |
| And you said it was a three-year relationship? | |
| Yeah, it's going on almost four. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Sure. | |
| So you said current relationship status. | |
| And your longest relationship? | |
| I'm single. | |
| And my longest. | |
| Do you count if it had a break? | |
| How long was the break? | |
| Was it on again, off again? | |
| Yeah, it was pretty toxic. | |
| Five years. | |
| Okay, five years, sure. | |
| Five years collectively or five years as like so I do have a partner. | |
| My longest, the current relationship that I am is the longest relationship I have had, and it'll be four years next week. | |
| Four years next week. | |
| Yes, and then we do also practice non-monogamy. | |
| Okay, so it's an open relationship. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Open. | |
| And then four years. | |
| So you guys met in high school? | |
| No, I met him right after high school, actually. | |
| Like, I think maybe like nine months after I graduated high school. | |
| Okay. | |
| Last show, you said that you had been doing cosplay for, did I say, cosplay, cosplay, for 10 years now. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you've been doing cosplay since you were 11? | |
| Yes. | |
| Actually, I think I would have started doing it when I was around 10 years old, but 11 is when I went to my first anime convention and actually dressed up for it and stuff and participated in that. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sydney? | |
| I'm single in my longest relationship. | |
| Again? | |
| Not again. | |
| I've just continued. | |
| There's a continuity there, okay? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I'm still single. | |
| And yeah, my longest relationship was six months. | |
| Six months. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh my god, W for open relationships? | |
| Let's go. | |
| Yes. | |
| Woo! | |
| Y'all got a relationship. | |
| Let's go. | |
| So I want to talk real briefly about OnlyFans here. | |
| So you two have OnlyFans. | |
| How long have you both been doing OnlyFans? | |
| About the same amount of, like over three years since 2019. | |
| Okay, so you got in pretty early. | |
| Yeah, I got in pretty early and I really blew up during COVID because everyone was just indoors. | |
| Were you doing corn? | |
| I was always doing corn. | |
| Okay. | |
| Can I ask what corn is? | |
| We're talking about porn, but we cannot say that you're not censoring corn. | |
| Cool. | |
| Yeah, no, but it'd be funny if I actually was saying, yes, I am a farmer. | |
| I like to, I live in a barn. | |
| Okay. | |
| And she harvests cucumbers and eggplants on my vagina. | |
| Whatever does it worth where they're not going to get censored. | |
| That's a scientific term. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| YouTube and Twitch, they move in mysterious ways. | |
| Okay, so, and when did you get started doing, I guess, in the traditional adult industry? | |
| So for future reference, I should kind of like have like fake words for the words. | |
| What? | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like instead of, I should say corn. | |
| Instead of just that one, like Twitch gets all bent out of it. | |
| Yeah, I guess. | |
| I mean, I've been told that for Twitch. | |
| Okay, so I'll just like think of like fun words. | |
| I've been baking a cake for a long time. | |
| I have been mostly an independent baker, but I did, but I did like join, I became Vixen contracted sometime last year, but my contract actually just ended. | |
| Vixen Bakery. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And the bakery and pastries. | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| But I'm looking into possibly doing like browsers possibly later this year. | |
| Browser's Bistro. | |
| Browser's the Bistro. | |
| Of course. | |
| Of course. | |
| I'll sell my buns. | |
| She sells her bones. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, and when did you, you said you got started when? | |
| So, I've been doing OnlyFans since 2019. | |
| I've always been making corn on there, but I would say sometime last year I signed onto Vixen just to get started doing some mainstream just because the mainstream was a great commercial for my OnlyFans itself. | |
| And I think it's something that I like doing sometimes, but inherently being an independent creator just pays way more and gives me more control to do exactly what I want to do. | |
| How much do you make? | |
| A lot. | |
| Give us a range? | |
| Yeah, I make about $300K a month. | |
| $300K a month? | |
| What's the most you've made in one month? | |
| Like $320. | |
| $320? | |
| $30K a month. | |
| But that's like, I have multiple platforms that I now sell my content on, so that's just on OnlyFans. | |
| But I do say this, and I also have been starting to be hesitant about how much I make because sometimes, obviously, people hate it when they realize that a girl like me is going to make money selling my body when people, their whole lives, say they should be punished for stuff like that. | |
| But also, like, sex workers of all incomes should be respected no matter how much money they make. | |
| Wait. | |
| So they should be, you think that the more money you make, they're more disrespected? | |
| No, I'm saying like regardless of what my income is or what anyone's income is, they should still be respected no matter what. | |
| I feel like when I say I make a lot of money, people start thinking it's more or less valid. | |
| When in reality, regardless of how much money I make, I should still be respected as a human being no matter what my occupation is. | |
| Okay. | |
| And so you make about 3 million a year. | |
| About 2000. | |
| Oh, you did the math quickly. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Actually, no, I think I underestimate. | |
| 3.2 mil was last year. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do you think it's possible you'll ever do a million in the month? | |
| Yeah, totally. | |
| I feel like right now I'm in this cool part of my life where I can just do passion projects and do things because it's fun. | |
| Like I can go to this podcast and spend a day in Santa Barbara just because, oh, it'd be fun. | |
| And now I don't really have to do things I don't necessarily want to do, like do a scene just because I feel like it would make me a lot of money. | |
| And now I'm just kind of like focusing on passion projects and like doing different stuff of my life. | |
| But I still do corn because it's fun. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| And then what about you? | |
| So I also started in 2019. | |
| But when I started, it was mostly through selling photos. | |
| And I actually joined OnlyFriends later in the year. | |
| Because I was going through college and I didn't really have a lot of time. | |
| I started making corn, I'm going to say in like 2021 is when I started making videos and stuff like that. | |
| Okay. | |
| And how much do you make per month? | |
| So I make around 10K a month. | |
| Okay. | |
| But it also, I will say it also fluctuates. | |
| Like for me, since I am a bit of a more niche creator, sometimes I'll have 5K months, sometimes I'll have 10K months. | |
| And it doesn't necessarily correlate directly to how much work I'm putting in sometimes. | |
| Sometimes that's just the draw of the cards. | |
| And there are a lot of other, you know, factors that I can't control, like the general economy and just inflation and stuff like that. | |
| But I make enough to be comfortable and to just do silly things and enjoy my life. | |
| So I'm really happy doing it. | |
| Cool, cool, cool. | |
| Sydney, are you reconsidering your career direction? | |
| No. | |
| I definitely, like, I want to be an actress. | |
| I know that that's what I want to do. | |
| And I think wanting to do that, you have to be very cautious about how you put yourself out there. | |
| Like, I mean, I've done this podcast, like, maybe five times now, and I have people from your podcast in my DMs. | |
| And it's like, like, I'm, like, I go on your podcast and like people see me, and that is, like, how I, like, put my name out there. | |
| But I feel like I do have to be cautious about how I put my name out there. | |
| But I've definitely thought about doing as a, like, as a thing, like, like, I wouldn't do, like, like, I wouldn't do corn. | |
| I wouldn't do anything like that. | |
| But, like, one of the girls that I actually went to UCSB and I, like, I watch her, and she's, like, blowing up because she's, like, a fitness influencer. | |
| Claire Stone. | |
| Claire Stone, she has an OnlyFans and she posts like bikini stuff, gym stuff. | |
| And I'm a big gym girl. | |
| And I was like, if I could, like, kind of go off what she goes off of, I think that that would be cool. | |
| But I haven't quite, I like personally, I would not do corn, but two each their own, you know? | |
| There are a lot of softcore creators that make a lot of money too. | |
| Yeah, I'd be interested in something like that, kind of like how she goes off of it, but corn is not for me. | |
| Yeah, one of the biggest OnlyFans creators is a fitness person, and all they do is, because OnlyFans inherently is just a subscription waste website. | |
| and you can sell celebrities that sell like that will like post like pictures of their children because like that's weird Well, but if you think about it, it's smart because with OnlyFans, essentially are selling a contract that these photos cannot get leaked. | |
| So if you like buy, like these photos can't get leaked and they can get like traced. | |
| I don't think that you should be posting your kids on a platform like that, period. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I also don't think that's true. | |
| But regardless, like people of all different, like I've done a cooking show on OnlyFans. | |
| And I've also like done fitness stuff with people on OnlyFans. | |
| So there is like a corn like correlation, but it's not necessarily a thing that is all it does. | |
| Also, I have met a lot of friends who are actresses and also do runway walking and musicians and they're also able to cross boundaries. | |
| I think it's just like whatever you're trying to do and seeing like what they're up to. | |
| Because I wanted to do fashion this year and a lot of my friends were like, ooh, you might have to make a separate profile. | |
| Where does that? | |
| Oh, that's weird. | |
| Yo, Cheeks, thanks for the 50. | |
| I don't know why the TTS is not coming through and then why it's Eric in the OBS. | |
| Someone loves you. | |
| Eric in the OBS window, can you hide the Twitch alerts? | |
| Hide the Twitch alerts. | |
| Shout out, Vickens. | |
| Sources. | |
| It's not that thing. | |
| Fit girls, you know. | |
| Okay, I'm not sure what's going on with the TTS. | |
| I might have to check that out. | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| Fucking TTS is always scuffed. | |
| Cheeks, I will try to figure it out, but let me read it since TTS is not really. | |
| I have to read it like the way you think he would say it. | |
| The way this guy named Beat in Cheeks. | |
| Why don't you read it? | |
| Shout out to Thickney and the workout model. | |
| Please don't do the corn route if you want a real man in your life, no matter the money. | |
| It's better to be respected by a high-value man than a Ranfruit-only homies content creator that will be with cucks. | |
| Thank you, Beaten Cheeks. | |
| Spending your $50 to tell us this message. | |
| Can they Venmo me this and say a message that I feel like it'd be a lot more conducive for her to hear your message. | |
| Yeah, I'll respond to it that way. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Thank you, Cheeks. | |
| I'm not sure why, Eric, you're going to have to, I think you might have to hide the Twitch alerts thing on each of the channels. | |
| When they say this would come with their voice. | |
| Yeah, normally it does. | |
| That's like way funnier if they said it with their voice. | |
| It's not their voice. | |
| It's like a bot voice. | |
| Oh, I thought you could really hear like that. | |
| We can do impressions. | |
| That would be funny. | |
| Yeah, do any of you know how to do any accents? | |
| You guys are going to serve as the TTS Sifts. | |
| Yeah, I'll print. | |
| Just talk like a Valley girl. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I'm just checking it out on my end over here. | |
| All right. | |
| So you guys have OnlyFans. | |
| Cool, cool, cool. | |
| You make a good amount of money. | |
| And let me see here. | |
| I'm looking at my Streamlabs thing here. | |
| One sec, guys, while I try to get this fixed. | |
| But. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, in any case, in any case, there's always some sort of technical issue going on. | |
| My bad, guys. | |
| Okay, so have you, for those of you, actually, I'll come back to the OnlyFans thing in a little bit. | |
| So have you ever passed on a guy or rejected a guy only to later regret it? | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I don't think so. | |
| I mean, if I passed on him, then the vibe just wasn't right. | |
| Like, if I found out that later he was fucking Barack Obama or some shit, it really wouldn't matter. | |
| Because if I decide I didn't want to fuck him, then we just weren't going to fuck anyways. | |
| But I probably would fuck Barack Obama. | |
| If you're watching. | |
| You would fuck Barack Obama? | |
| Oh, absolutely fucking litly. | |
| What the hell? | |
| He's probably our sexiest president alive, fact. | |
| What about Trump? | |
| Not a sexy president. | |
| His spray tan would get on you. | |
| No, even if I like thought Donald Trump was like a cool guy, even like young pictures of him aren't hot. | |
| Young pictures of Joe Biden, though, pretty sexy. | |
| That guy's kind of cute. | |
| Would you have a Coke-fueled threesome with Hunter Biden? | |
| What does he look like? | |
| He's cute. | |
| Is he cute? | |
| I think so. | |
| I think it's kind of been a white boy winner for me, so probably. | |
| A white boy winter. | |
| You know what? | |
| It happens to be Asian Girl Spring. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Let's go. | |
| It's not spring yet, so I'm sorry. | |
| I'll be back. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| But by the way, there was an issue in the TTS should be fixed now, guys. | |
| I'm not sure. | |
| Oh, wait, maybe not. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's getting scuffed. | |
| But hold on, let me see if that works. | |
| Your answer to the question. | |
| When you say pass on a guy, like, do you mean sex-wise? | |
| Or in like relationship-wise or date-wise, like, or all of it, all of the above? | |
| Well, just, I mean, have you ever passed on a guy or rejected him and then later you regretted him? | |
| Yes. | |
| No, no, no, but only to later regret. | |
| No regrets. | |
| Never regretted. | |
| Oh, I turned down this guy. | |
| He had a glow up. | |
| No. | |
| He became rich. | |
| Never had that. | |
| That's shallow. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I have passed on a guy, rejected a guy, and not regret it. | |
| But I do think that people are capable of change. | |
| And sometimes the new version of a person can, I can sometimes be like, okay, like you seem like you're in a way better place right now. | |
| Like, okay, you know, maybe something can happen if they've developed as a person and, you know, kind of, I guess, changed the traits that I may have not vibed with or liked in the past. | |
| I feel like being like having a different, like what you're saying as far as like becoming a different person as opposed to like people don't change. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| Like I feel like deep down, like it's very hard for a person to actually change. | |
| Like you can become a different person and learn how to like, you know, take better control of your negative traits or whatever you didn't like in that person. | |
| But I don't think that they actually like changed, which is part of the reason why I have no regrets. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yo, Cheeks, I apologize. | |
| I don't know why the TTS is not working. | |
| He has more to say. | |
| He's like, I've been rejected by many women, and I'm sure they all really regretted it. | |
| I swear. | |
| Please put my Venmo in the chat. | |
| Shut up. | |
| This guy is easy as much. | |
| Cheeks. | |
| I would rather subscribe. | |
| Actually, Kazumi, you read it. | |
| You have a more planned. | |
| This guy is so angry that I make money. | |
| I would rather subscribe and donate money on platforms to help men and women than to put a waste of a single cent of my millions. | |
| Thanks, Beaten Cheeks, to ran through only homies girls that do not respect their self-image for their future self and devalue themselves in shame. | |
| Bro, as long as you live in this illusion that you think you call the shots anywhere, you'll never wake up, and that's totally fine because we are never going to meet. | |
| Like, it's like you can continue living in your strange little world. | |
| By the way, his first name actually is Beaton, and his last name actually is Cheeks. | |
| Well, his life is, you know, what it seems like that's his passion if that's his name. | |
| It's not like my name is Kazumi Squirtz or something. | |
| It is. | |
| You should actually legally change your name to Kazumi Squirts. | |
| Yeah, that's... | |
| Is that your court name? | |
| Huh? | |
| That's my poor name. | |
| Well, no, actually, I kind of like it. | |
| It's her birth name. | |
| I actually dropped the last name, so now it's just Kazumi because I'm kind of a creamer. | |
| I don't really squirt. | |
| Oh, we don't know. | |
| So I didn't want to lie. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So now I'm just Kazumi, like Beyonce or whatever. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Are you well hydrated? | |
| Yes. | |
| What? | |
| I'm just, yeah, I drink a lot of water. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think as long as I'm here, this guy will keep tipping the chat. | |
| And hopefully you'll like make hundreds of dollars tonight. | |
| We can only hope. | |
| You know, you should actually change it to kind of a J-Lo thing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So K-Squeer. | |
| Like Kazumi Lopez. | |
| K-Squirts. | |
| You could do Squirt. | |
| For both. | |
| Squirt him. | |
| Cheeks. | |
| I do apologize, though, that the TTS is not working. | |
| I have no idea why, but we will, guys, anyone who donates 50 and up, we will just read it. | |
| We'll do Kazumi will act as our TTS trigger. | |
| Sound good, Kazumi? | |
| Yeah. | |
| She's dumb. | |
| So did you get to answer the question, have you ever rejected a guy, turned a guy down, but later regretted it? | |
| So I said yes, but I don't regret it. | |
| I guess if I meet a new version of them, I'm just kind of like, okay, this like this new developed version of you is something that I can kind of get more behind. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sydney, what about you? | |
| Yes. | |
| And I've also reached out to him about it. | |
| It was kind of like you tried to you try to rekindle it. | |
| So. | |
| So essentially, it was someone that I was seeing before moving to college, but like as soon as I met him, like I met him coming out to tour the college. | |
| And as soon as I met him from the get-go, I was like, hey, like when I move to college, I don't want anything. | |
| Like I want to be on my own. | |
| And we got like super, super close. | |
| But I stood by my word. | |
| And when I came to college, I like, I ended it. | |
| And we stopped talking for like over a year now. | |
| And I like thought about him recently. | |
| And I reached back out and I was like, hey, I was like, I like called him one night and I was like, hey, if I'm being honest, like I kind of like regret how I handled things. | |
| But at the same time, I stand by being single in college and I stand by like having like my like, because like I did a lot of growing by myself like for that year. | |
| So I like stand by it. | |
| But I did reach back out and I was like, hey, like, because he was like an amazing guy, but I stand by and regret at the same time. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Props. | |
| I mean. | |
| Standing by what you wanted. | |
| Kind of, I don't know. | |
| I feel like my take on it is I've had girls who previously turned me down and sometimes like pretty ruthlessly reject me and then they fucking see my shit online and they were like, oh. | |
| As you should have. | |
| And then they, but so like, there's this, I'll know this, this is like an 80s song. | |
| Oh. | |
| Okay. | |
| Ah, beat it. | |
| He's back. | |
| We'll put it up in just a sec. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| She's still here. | |
| We'll pull it up in just a sec, Eric. | |
| So there's this. | |
| He's so angry. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| So, there's this song by Positive K, this rapper in like the 80s, 90s. | |
| And the song is called I Got a Man. | |
| And it's basically, it's kind of an interesting song where he's basically approaching a girl, but she's got a boyfriend, and he's like trying to still get at her. | |
| But one of the lyrics goes something along the lines of, so when I blow up, don't try to kick it to me later. | |
| So, I've had like, you know, throughout my journey online, I've had a lot of girls who like previously turned me down, and then like they'll see my shit and be like, Hey, and I'm like, No, I don't like you had your chance. | |
| If you didn't want me then, like, it's I'm not interested. | |
| For me, it was like high school people. | |
| Like, I was like a total loner, total loser in high school, like, totally, like, did it not talk to anyone at all and got bullied a lot throughout my school years. | |
| And now I have like people from school being like, Oh, hey, you look really good, or hey, like, I see you in the gym and shit. | |
| And I'm just like, Well, like, now I'm not interested because you were like a jerk then. | |
| But with this guy, like, we started off really well. | |
| We ended things, I ended things, and like it was on good terms. | |
| Like, we stopped talking completely, but I was like mature about it. | |
| But I was also mature, like, going back. | |
| I was like, Hey, I don't know. | |
| I feel like if you handle things properly, it makes a difference, like ending it and redeveloping it. | |
| Get some help. | |
| Kazumi, can you read this TTS? | |
| It's like he is like, fuck her. | |
| It gets wide. | |
| It gets as if she's crying right now. | |
| Kazumi. | |
| It's also spelled with a K-A, Z-U-M-I. | |
| But you knew that already. | |
| I will be on the show in a few months. | |
| And you can go ahead and try your best and sit in the same room as me because that will be the only time you made me with a real man. | |
| That will tear you down. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| That will turn you down even if you try to pay me for a good time. | |
| One, I will. | |
| He's paying me. | |
| Don't you say this is a real guy? | |
| I'm like sitting next to a real guy right now. | |
| What? | |
| That guy's a real guy? | |
| Like, that's not a real woman. | |
| Don't assume it's gender. | |
| Okay. | |
| What does this guy think I'm going to do? | |
| Like, I'm going to see him and self-combust because he like watches Fresh and Fit or something. | |
| Like, I'm just going to lose my bank account. | |
| Like, I'm just going to walk away. | |
| It's like when a crazy guy is like screaming at you at a 7-Eleven. | |
| Do I engage? | |
| No. | |
| I just go and buy my hot dog quietly and then sit in my car and then I drive home to my nice house. | |
| Like, what? | |
| I don't care. | |
| Okay, cheeks. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Thank you for the. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Sorry, once again, the TTS is not working. | |
| I'm the better voice. | |
| I'm going to give him like a very effeminate little gazey voice. | |
| Here, while we're at it, I'm going to just read the rest of the super chats here. | |
| Guys, get your super chats in. | |
| I will read super chats $20 and up. | |
| $50 and up normally triggers TTS text-to-speech, but for some reason, it's not working. | |
| So we're going to have Kazumi act as the. | |
| Do you know? | |
| Can you do like a British accent? | |
| Cheerio. | |
| Okay, maybe not. | |
| All right, we have, actually, we have Andrew Tate here. | |
| I'm flying the Asian girl to Romania for a conjugal visit. | |
| Pack your bags. | |
| Are you, would you be down? | |
| I went on an e-date with Andrew Tate already. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, did you see that? | |
| I saw that. | |
| I had no idea who the fuck he was. | |
| I just thought he was another bald guy. | |
| So I was. | |
| And it was an E-Date. | |
| So it was like the bachelorette. | |
| So I was trying to win. | |
| And first of all, all these guys are hella misogynistic and worm-brained. | |
| So I just was just trying to win, anyways. | |
| I didn't think what he was saying was out of the norm for guys on Twitch. | |
| Aiden Ross is a. | |
| Is he? | |
| Are you saying that about Aiden Ross? | |
| No, I'm talking about Tate. | |
| Andrew Tate. | |
| No, I want to. | |
| Your homies with Aiden. | |
| I am. | |
| No, I went on a street. | |
| I saw my life. | |
| Yeah, I saw that. | |
| Yeah, I went on E-Date with Andrew Tate. | |
| And I didn't know who to fart he was, dude. | |
| I just knew that he was a silly little guy. | |
| An e-date is a. | |
| It's like an online. | |
| It's a virtual game. | |
| It's like The Bachelor, but online. | |
| Do you get paid for that? | |
| No, it's like a Twitch stream. | |
| It's like what we're doing right now. | |
| It's a podcast, except it's a date where it's like my camera and his camera, and we're just on like a basically a FaceTime date in front of like thousands of people, and it just didn't really go well. | |
| You could Google it, but it's, I didn't know who he was, so I was saying things like, I want to have your baby, and I will impregnate myself. | |
| It's embarrassing. | |
| What you talk about? | |
| That's not embarrassing. | |
| You didn't look it up. | |
| But I've been on one of those. | |
| On an E-Date? | |
| Yeah. | |
| No. | |
| I've done reverse E-Dates. | |
| That was a reverse E-Date where all of us were fighting for Andrew Tate's love. | |
| Like this is before he was kind of like obviously like our Hitler so I didn't know that he was like hold on You just. | |
| That's a terrible comparison. | |
| Dude, he sucks. | |
| But it's just like, obviously, this is before he was extremely popular for sucking ass. | |
| Like, I just kind of thought he was just some dude. | |
| And then I realized that he was Andrew Tate. | |
| Would you say all of this to his face? | |
| Yes. | |
| You'd say all that to Andrew Tate's face. | |
| Yeah, I'm like saying it on a public forum right now. | |
| I'm sure he'll see it watching it. | |
| I'm sure he just allegedly is in the chat right now. | |
| What if you met Andrew Tate in person and he was perfectly pleasant to you in person? | |
| I think I would still say to what. | |
| You'd still give him a piece of your mind? | |
| Why would you think I wouldn't? | |
| Why would you think I would suddenly switch up because he has money? | |
| If I also have money and also have people in my life that respect me, I don't have to demean myself for some weird guy. | |
| Well, why would you be demeaning yourself by being respectful to him? | |
| I mean, I would be respectful, but I could still disagree with his concepts. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So yeah, I would absolutely say everything on camera I'm saying. | |
| You did call him Hitler, though, I think, which is a problem. | |
| He is definitely our Hitler, yeah. | |
| A what Hitler? | |
| No, he's our Hitler. | |
| No, dude, Peter She's a family. | |
| That's ridiculous. | |
| And he is not gonna. | |
| He can Zoom meeting. | |
| What specifically, I guess, what specifically about what Andrew Tate says do you disagree with? | |
| Do you agree that women should have their body counts on their forehead? | |
| Well, I, okay, I've seen that clip. | |
| We've actually reacted to it on this. | |
| Yeah, but do you agree? | |
| Can I see it later? | |
| Perhaps later. | |
| So what's your question? | |
| First of all, I think it is perfectly. | |
| We are perfectly able to talk about how men should focus on themselves and empower themselves to be kings and whatever the fuck without demeaning womanhood and like also putting all their value on their on their personal choices. | |
| Like it's those things can totally be separate. | |
| Also, like all men benefit from a system built by the patriarchy while we are women and we are dealing with. | |
| Sorry, what did that say? | |
| It said erroneous, but continue. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| While we are simply in this structure, you know what I mean? | |
| Like it's like, I don't, I also don't have to live by your rules. | |
| And if you feel like you are trapped in a place where women only want you for your money or what you offer, then I just beg you to go the fuck outside and meet more women. | |
| True. | |
| Okay, so graduate the eighth grade, honestly. | |
| Like what? | |
| Do you care really how much a guy makes as long as he is able to like you know take care of himself? | |
| I would say most women care to some degree about a man's information. | |
| Well, no, of course we're not asking for like a fucking homeless guy, but I'm asking like a guy who's just as stable as me is totally fine. | |
| Like what? | |
| Yeah, but you may, you just said. | |
| I don't need him to make $300,000 a month, but I need him to just be able to. | |
| But that would be as stable as you. | |
| You said you make $3 million a year. | |
| I need someone that is able to just like take a look at the money. | |
| He's not a loser. | |
| Yeah, he just doesn't have to be a fucking boss. | |
| He's got a passion. | |
| Yeah. | |
| He's just going to make his own money and then like I've dated my fair share of losers. | |
| Majority. | |
| All of the guys have been losers. | |
| Like I've dated guys who don't have cars, don't have drugs. | |
| But you're like in college. | |
| So this is a normal party. | |
| Well, I haven't really dated a yeah. | |
| Yeah, this is college. | |
| This is a normal part. | |
| When you are like 25 plus, it's like men think like there's only two extremes. | |
| We either date a hobo or a millionaire. | |
| And it's like, I could just date a guy who has a normal career. | |
| And as long as he has a passion and focus and like, like, is able to provide for himself, that's totally fine. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know, I don't really give a fuck. | |
| And also still. | |
| Okay, but there's certain realities to, and I mean, you touched, you used a couple buzzwords, so I will try to get back to those chiefly. | |
| Well, you asserted that there's a patriarchy. | |
| I'll get to that in a sec. | |
| So you're a high earner, so you could probably be the sole breadwinner and support a family. | |
| However, a man's income is definitely a calculus, I would say, in most women's assessment of who they're going to partner with, because assuming you want to have children, because if you want to have children, a man's income is a factor in the calculus and in the equation of will we be able to, you know, have kids? | |
| How big's the house? | |
| How big, you know, can we have cars? | |
| Like, it's a factor for sure, especially for women. | |
| Does he need to be like a millionaire or could he just be like a normal guy? | |
| No, but if you want a certain lifestyle, for example, depending on how many kids you want, do the kids have their own bedrooms, bathrooms? | |
| Do you want to go on family vacations? | |
| Do you want to have one, two, three cars? | |
| All this stuff starts becoming a factor. | |
| Am I unemployed during this? | |
| Like, I also can't do that myself. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like, I feel like I could also do that right now. | |
| Even if I had kids, I could take them on vacations. | |
| And I just, when you make a lot of money. | |
| three million dollars a year this is fine but even when i vacation but even when i didn't make that amount of money i had very fulfilling relationships because the relationships i had were based upon the fact that i just liked this person And they also liked me. | |
| And we spent time together and made an effort to appreciate one another. | |
| Also, you're right. | |
| You know, depending on if you want to have a family, if you want to have kids, all that stuff, you probably should date somebody who has the same goals as you and is actively working towards those goals. | |
| Because personally, I don't really want kids. | |
| So, you know, when income comes into play, it's not really income for kids. | |
| I want my partner to simply earn enough for both of us to just have fun whenever we want. | |
| And we both know that. | |
| So we both, you know, we also work with what we have. | |
| Because for instance, I'm not making $3 million a year. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I'm making probably what? | |
| You're making six figures though, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I'm still making a good amount, but I am making an equal amount. | |
| It's just somebody who has like a more, I guess, societally accepted job, like a normal career. | |
| But I think when women look into men who are making a certain kind of money, it's not really about the money. | |
| It's about the goals and how they're going to work to achieve those goals. | |
| I think men like to pretend. | |
| Can you just close the door? | |
| It is cold. | |
| I think men like to pretend that dating is way harder than it actually is. | |
| In reality, I think if we have common goals and common interests and common values, a lot of this is a lot easier than you think. | |
| If you think you think dating is easy? | |
| If you think it's based off of trying to convince a girl to date you or trying to have things that a woman, that you feel like women want, like having a six-figure income or a giant fucking dick, then you're only going to attract people that exactly want that. | |
| If I'm looking for someone to date me because of my personality and I want someone to support me, then I'm going to attract people that want to date and support me and also have those same virtues. | |
| I mean, you can say that, but the reality is that... | |
| The reality is I'm in a four-year relationship. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What is that? | |
| The reality is that there are many people in my situation who are in very happy relationships and none of it is based off of really income or any of any of that besides like we just like each other. | |
| Well, so this kind of originally stemmed from our discussion of Tate and it's not clear to me that Tate's primary topic of interest is saying that women only care about money. | |
| think he says that at all i think i think that's a factor but to deny that women that women don't care about a man's money is i don't think a lot of women care Yeah, I feel like a lot of women don't care. | |
| And I also feel like Tate creates a reality for these men to live in that make it seem like women are constantly out to get them or manipulate them. | |
| He doesn't say that. | |
| Did you see his new, but did, not arguing, but did you see his new foundation that he's going to donate? | |
| I think it was like $100 million. | |
| I'm probably getting my math wrong. | |
| But to protect men of fake allegations. | |
| You're derailing the conversation that has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. | |
| Okay, so you guys, okay, well, I want to give you an opportunity to come in. | |
| Do you think that women don't care about men's money at all? | |
| Is that what your guys are doing? | |
| I don't think they, no, I didn't say that we don't care at all. | |
| I'm just saying it's like personal preference. | |
| You should just be able to have your own thing going on. | |
| And that's fine. | |
| I think when men are afraid of women making a lot of money, it's because they feel like they can't control her anymore. | |
| I think it's fine that I have a job and then you have a job and you don't need to make one bajillion dollars for me to date you or like lose my integrity. | |
| I'm just saying that I'm happy that you have your own goals and dreams and you're able to hold your own. | |
| And so will I. | |
| And we will be with each other because we want to be, not because we need to be. | |
| Men are not afraid of women who make a lot of money because they're afraid that they're going to lose the girl. | |
| No, that's not what I'm saying. | |
| Men just don't, it's not something that's particularly important to us how much money a woman makes. | |
| That's not true. | |
| That is. | |
| Okay, let me. | |
| You think it's not true men care deeply about how much money a woman makes? | |
| Well, you didn't say deeply. | |
| I mean, everyone has their own opinions, obviously, but I definitely think that how much... | |
| Generally speaking, let's say generally speaking. | |
| I think that there are men out there that care about what their significant other will bring to the table because they are like... | |
| Not financially. | |
| Yeah, financially. | |
| Financially. | |
| I'm not saying that all men don't care about that, but most men, it doesn't really matter. | |
| Well, that's also what we're saying about women. | |
| Most women don't, all men don't, all women don't care about how much money a man may be making. | |
| Women, you know? | |
| Women, I'm not saying all women care about money, but women care about it more than men do. | |
| I think that that's a reality that men make up for themselves, and I think that it is untrue. | |
| It's not because if you agree with you, I think that I, I'm sorry. | |
| No, that women, I think that women, like it's different because you guys are entrepreneurs, you're making your own money, you guys are making good money, so yeah, that's like not at the forefront of your mind. | |
| But typically for the average woman, they are going to look at their, you know, the persons that they're dating, their occupation, what are they doing with their life, how much money are they making? | |
| Like, that's, that's just, that's just truth. | |
| I've had to date guys that I've had to like help them with money and it's fucking embarrassing. | |
| It's like it's embarrassing for me only for the point like for the point for me. | |
| Like, like, don't get me wrong, I'm 22, but like, I don't want to have to date a guy again that like doesn't have a car, doesn't even have a driver's license, like doesn't do anything with his life. | |
| Like, I've had a guy that was like super into me, but he had no ambition whatsoever. | |
| And when he had money, he would call his mom and like never wanted to go out of the house. | |
| He'd get a job, get a car, get anything. | |
| And it's like, I don't want to be with someone that doesn't have ambition like that. | |
| That for me is just like, no, and it doesn't have to be about money, but like ambition, like something. | |
| Like, I don't want to have to do that. | |
| And I know that you guys are saying that you're not saying that the person has to make as much money as you. | |
| Like, I know that you're not saying that, but I just think that in general, when you think of the average woman, like. | |
| I think it just depends on what circle you're in. | |
| I feel like if you're around women who all make a good amount of money, they don't really care as much. | |
| Well, that's what I'm saying. | |
| It's different because you guys aren't making such good things. | |
| Actually, the more money a woman makes, the more she cares about how much her partner makes. | |
| Do I care? | |
| But that might be your experience, but generally speaking. | |
| Do you care? | |
| Hell no. | |
| Yeah, but you guys are probably, you guys are willing to perhaps overlook that. | |
| I'm not saying I'm going to date a bum, dude. | |
| I'm saying like. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| Men would date a bum. | |
| Well, that's on. | |
| Here's the difference. | |
| A guy who makes $300,000 a month will date a girl who's a barista. | |
| And that's on him then. | |
| I could date a guy who's a barista. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What is your guy? | |
| You said you've been dating a guy for four years. | |
| What does he do? | |
| Right now, he's just doing some social media management. | |
| He helps create long-form content like this into short-form content. | |
| So he just has a pretty average career. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Six figures? | |
| No, like less than that. | |
| Do you support him? | |
| I think we match what we can do and we try to work it out. | |
| So we kind of compromise sometimes, but it's not really a big deal. | |
| We've been together for so long and he's seen me go through different stages of my career from being a normal office girl to being where I am now. | |
| So we don't really give a fuck about stuff like that. | |
| So does he make six figures? | |
| No. | |
| A year. | |
| Huh? | |
| He makes less than six figures a year. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so I would say this. | |
| A guy who's making $3 million a year would probably just pay. | |
| Do you pay for everything in the relationship? | |
| No. | |
| I mean, I'll pay. | |
| I'll like, you know, he'll go out of his way and like do his best to like make sure he pulls up where he needs to. | |
| I'll pay like what I want. | |
| I mean, I'll always offer, like, I could just pay whatever. | |
| I don't really care. | |
| But obviously for him and his ego, he wants to maybe split stuff or whatever. | |
| But he will make up for it in other ways by showing me he loves me through small things, which is fine because when I was broke, I would show him how I loved him through like creative things like making a picnic or like thinking of interesting date nights. | |
| And I feel like that's what relationships are supposed to be about. | |
| I would also like to touch on, I don't necessarily disagree with you. | |
| I do think that there are a lot of women out there who think a little bit more traditionally and lead a more traditional life. | |
| But I think the point that we are trying to get across is like men think that everyone should think like that sometimes. | |
| And it's like, okay, well, you need to understand that if you feel like the most important thing to you is money, then yeah, a woman is going to come for you for your money. | |
| But if you put yourself out there as a person who's just trying to create a meaningful connection, then stuff like money is not going to matter. | |
| Eric, can you get Kazumi some water? | |
| How'd you know that? | |
| You can read my lips. | |
| Me too. | |
| Pretty much. | |
| I'm parched. | |
| Pass them the thing. | |
| I'll like pour it over here. | |
| So it's like the table. | |
| Oh, hide this, though. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me. | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| And then just put it on the ground once you guys are done. | |
| So. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Thanks, Ben. | |
| It's interesting because, I mean, you outearn your boyfriend who you've been dating for four years. | |
| Sorry, almost four. | |
| almost four years, a guy who was making $3 million would. | |
| Sorry, I just got everyone's cup mixed up. | |
| Did you? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| We are refilling the water. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Okay. | |
| A guy who's making $3 million and he's dating someone who makes less than $100K. | |
| He would probably just pay for everything. | |
| Vacations, all this stuff. | |
| Because you mentioned earlier, you want someone that can match you, like in terms of lifestyle-wise. | |
| If you want to go on a vacation, you want someone who can like bring, you know, pay for their vacation. | |
| A guy who's making millions of dollars a year will just, if he's dating a girl who's not making that much, he'll just pay for everything. | |
| Okay, okay, wait. | |
| From the jump almost. | |
| I want to clarify something. | |
| I don't necessarily mean it like that. | |
| And I'm going to use fast food and dining as a way to describe it just because that's what's easiest for me. | |
| So let's say me and my partner agree that we don't want to eat out, right? | |
| We want to cut costs. | |
| We don't want to eat out for the entire week. | |
| And he's budgeting to fit that. | |
| And let's say one night I have a really bad day and I want to go eat somewhere nice. | |
| And I know that he doesn't necessarily have the budget for that. | |
| I'm going to take him and I'm going to treat it because it's something I want to do with him. | |
| And that can be applied to eating out. | |
| That can be applied to vacations. | |
| That can be applied to events. | |
| That can be applied to literally anything in our relationship. | |
| But that doesn't mean that like he's just not going to do anything for me. | |
| Let's say, you know, on another, let's say I'm having a bad night. | |
| I don't really have the budget to do what I want. | |
| And he doesn't really have like a budget to take me out on a nice dinner. | |
| He'll get me a pizza or like some chocolates from 7-Eleven or something cheap. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| It's for me, it's not really about like, oh, can he match a vacation? | |
| It's like, you know, showing me that he cares with what he has available. | |
| All right. | |
| Looks what we got a TTS coming in, but Eric, can you pull that up? | |
| Go for it, Kazumi. | |
| She calling dudes who don't have money lazy, bum, loser, embarrassing, etc. | |
| Well, I'm a respond and say I wouldn't want to date a unit who can't hit the gym who is a lazy, a bum, unhealthy, and unfit. | |
| Jacob, thank you for the $50 super chat. | |
| Sorry, our TTS is busted. | |
| So sorry, it's me who has to read it. | |
| I know they're like, fuck that. | |
| I hate this. | |
| I mean, okay, you are totally entitled to just not date who you don't want to date. | |
| He was like, I just took a stand. | |
| Thanks for your bravery. | |
| Like, here's the thing. | |
| When a woman makes more money, she's going to typically be looking to date someone who makes at least as much as she does or more. | |
| So for example, a female attorney, like, just think about it. | |
| Visualize it. | |
| A girl, a female attorney, a female doctor, a female surgeon. | |
| Like, it's almost self-evident. | |
| She's not going to go date a guy who works at McDonald's. | |
| No. | |
| She's not. | |
| Like, it's almost self-evident. | |
| Because she's not even in her energies days. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| A high-achieving attorney, doctor, surgeon, he'll gladly date. | |
| Like, if she's attractive, he'll date a girl who works at McDonald's at Chick-fil-A, a barista. | |
| How long does that actually last, though? | |
| Because it definitely matters, like, the intellectual conversations that you have when you're at such a high... | |
| You might have those intellectual conversations regardless of job, though. | |
| I feel like your career, I feel like regardless of your. | |
| I've met some fucking annoying pharmacists and nurses and I've dated pharmacists, nurses, doctors. | |
| Like they're not any more pleasant to talk to than like just a 19, 21 year old girl. | |
| I feel like it's more about like a personality match, whereas like a career path. | |
| I live next to, right now I live next to like one of the frat houses and it's like one of the like doctor frat houses. | |
| I'm not saying that cards. | |
| It sounds like a hot place to go. | |
| You should go to Kazumi. | |
| They sound cute. | |
| But some of these boys, if you see this, I'm sorry, can be freaking annoying as hell. | |
| And it genuinely makes me wonder. | |
| I'm just like, you know what? | |
| Like they're not my type. | |
| And these guys are starting to be doctors. | |
| Like they're going to be making big. | |
| Do you think that people who like you can't have it all? | |
| I feel like it's very hard to find somebody who like has it all. | |
| And by that, I mean somebody who is check everything on the list. | |
| Let's say that's that's like a possibility, but like also like you're either super duper smart in like books and stuff and you've put in a lot of time and energy and effort into that or you're like street smart and aware of yourself in other ways. | |
| That's what I mean. | |
| What was the question? | |
| Here, let's do this while it cut Praxis. | |
| Thank you for the super chat. | |
| I'm sorry the TTS is broken. | |
| So we have Kazumi as our TSP. | |
| People really want me to read it. | |
| They think like there's going to be a point where I just have a mental breakdown or something. | |
| And it's like. | |
| No, I think you have a strong will. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm just like, it's amazing how OF girls have the energy to argue and debate the most obvious truths. | |
| Yet they refuse to use that energy to find a real job. | |
| Your career has an expiration date, whether you like it or not. | |
| Guess what? | |
| That's all jobs, bro. | |
| What? | |
| Like, you think like, bro here is going to podcast till he's 80,000 years old? | |
| Yes. | |
| No, you're going to probably get your bag and leave. | |
| That's life. | |
| Guys, the year is 20,000. | |
| I'm going to be there podcasting. | |
| Listen, Alcor, listen, guys. | |
| Alcor life preserve. | |
| Wait, it's called Alcor Life Extension. | |
| They fucking freeze you. | |
| Cryopreservation, you and me, Kazumi. | |
| Yeah, all right. | |
| 20,000 years. | |
| You'll be podcasting. | |
| We'll be whatever. | |
| 20,000 years. | |
| There actually is, it's called cryonics, and they freeze you with the anticipation that in the future, science and technology will advance to the point where they can unfreeze you and basically bring you back to life. | |
| And so you and me. | |
| There'll be like a 30-year hiatus where you're frozen in time, and then you'll come back and be like, hey, guys, the podcast is back. | |
| Yo, what's up? | |
| Dating talk. | |
| We now Twitch in space. | |
| Dating in 20,000 is a mess. | |
| Just before I have you come in, can you TTS this, Kazumi? | |
| I'm a doctor. | |
| He's kind of sexy. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Why is he so buff? | |
| I'm a doctor, and I can tell you personally that my female colleagues struggle to find men they date because they won't date down. | |
| My male colleagues don't have much of an issue with that because we can date way down easily. | |
| Is the point here the fact that we should help you guys not date down or are you telling us to date down? | |
| I'm confused with like what the angle is. | |
| Men are perfectly content dating down, so to speak. | |
| Why dating down are we socioeconomic status? | |
| You can also look for things differently in a relationship than women. | |
| Yeah, if you're looking for a hot horny honey, I mean, that's your right. | |
| And that, if that hot, horny honey is looking for an $800 credit scar, 800 credit score, then fuck her, then like, you know, this is a perfectly transactional relationship and you guys are happy to go off into the sunset. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| So as a guy, his status increases, his money increases, his pool of potential partners also increases. | |
| Whereas as a woman's status increases, the more money she makes, actually her pool of potential partners tends to shrink. | |
| Not necessarily because men won't date her, but because she's now looking, okay, I make this much money. | |
| Here's my lifestyle. | |
| I want someone that I don't want to be having to like carry a guy. | |
| Most women are going to have that point of view. | |
| Not all women, but a lot of women are, you know, they're going to want to date someone on their level or higher. | |
| Good. | |
| Take a certain kind of man to like, not have to like put his ego aside and be able to be taken care of by a woman. | |
| Some, okay some men do have an ego about that, but the issue, while it is primarily on the women's side, it's not on the men's side. | |
| The women would not want to date a guy who doesn't match them. | |
| I think that has a lot more to do with like, the emotional maturity than anything else, in my opinion, because there have been a lot of reports and studies done about how, as men age, their dating pool of ages that they look at don't generally grow with their age. | |
| There are still men in their 40s looking at girls in their 20s and around that age looking to date. | |
| Whereas with women, as we age, we look for somebody more within our age range. | |
| And most of the time that I will agree, most of the time that does mean financial security as well as emotional maturity, but that's not like all it is. | |
| I mean, it's evolutionary too. | |
| Like if you go back to the caveman days, women were looking for men that could provide and protect. | |
| And so how does a man provide nowadays through financial resources? | |
| But why does he only have to provide through financial resources? | |
| I just want to be loved. | |
| Yeah, why not? | |
| I feel like it's like she just wants to be loved. | |
| She just wants to be loved, and she also wants a guy who's six feet. | |
| Washboard. | |
| Six feet? | |
| You know what, though? | |
| See, but when you're five feet, it doesn't matter. | |
| Oh, but what about the 5'4 guy that would be perfectly capable of loving you? | |
| Can I have that one? | |
| That's the thing. | |
| Like, he wouldn't even have. | |
| I'm at the point in my life where, like, I'm going to get what I want in a person because I've like been through the ringer as far as relationships goes. | |
| I know exactly what I want, and I'm not going to settle for anything less than. | |
| So could I ask a question? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What if he can give you everything that you want, but you just don't have the height? | |
| Because that's a physical aspect that he can't control versus where he can like give you like emotional shorties. | |
| I've been on a date. | |
| I'm five foot. | |
| I've been on a date with a guy that was shorter than me. | |
| You're so tired. | |
| Shut up. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| As a tall girl, I just really love having short friends and carrying them around everywhere. | |
| But like, I am at least having these carry you right now. | |
| No, only, okay. | |
| Yeah, I won't push. | |
| I won't push. | |
| They at least have to be like my height or like an inch tall. | |
| That was for you two, by the way. | |
| Yeah, that was broken. | |
| I won't push. | |
| I respect her boundaries. | |
| I feel like men like to pretend. | |
| I can't help it that I'm like, I don't know. | |
| I'm kind of like. | |
| Okay, so I do want to touch on what you said because you said, you know, you've been through the ringer. | |
| You know what you want. | |
| You're not willing to settle. | |
| Is that kind of it? | |
| So I want to go around the table on this for all of you. | |
| And I do want to touch back. | |
| We will return to the tape thing. | |
| So if a guy doesn't meet all of your preferences or standards, let's say he met only 80% of your standards and he was lacking in some area that you want. | |
| Would you be willing to settle for less than perfect in a partner? | |
| I don't think that there's such a thing as a perfect partner. | |
| Everyone has their issues. | |
| Relationships are hard and you kind of just have to. | |
| Okay, disregard the perfect thing. | |
| Would you be willing to settle for less, say, 80% of a guy who meets 80% of your standards? | |
| If he checks off every single other box and he's 5'6, okay. | |
| It's like the cap. | |
| You wouldn't be attracted to him to begin with. | |
| Exactly. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| Like, he wouldn't even have the chance. | |
| Right. | |
| Okay. | |
| So. | |
| Is the same question? | |
| Same question, yeah. | |
| So I threw a birthday party this weekend, and it was really funny because since I do porn and I also just a social person that's an LA native, I invited everyone ever. | |
| So it was obviously a lot of people I've had sex with from college, from my last job, from like how long ago was college? | |
| No, no, but like, you know, it's just like people throughout my life, like from like when I was like 18, from high school, from my to now, like now that I'm a porn star. | |
| And I felt that something really eclectic that someone noticed was that none of them had a specific look. | |
| It was just the common denominator was they were open-minded, they were usually really funny, but physically and even with their jobs, it was extremely sporadic and eclectic. | |
| Like there were people who were short, there were people who were tall, there were people who were fat, there were people that were buff. | |
| But the common denominator was that we had a really cool connection and it was cool to see us all come to it together. | |
| Granted, I'm also in an open relationship, so it's not weird for me to bring all the people I've ever fucked in one room. | |
| You know, it's how many? | |
| Wait, so how many people in that room were there that you had? | |
| Well, okay, it's not like I fucked everyone in the room. | |
| Can I ask as a corn star? | |
| Like, do you keep track of your body count now? | |
| I'm just, that's something I'm curious about an adult woman, so I don't keep track of my body count. | |
| But if I had to, it's probably one bajillion. | |
| You know, so whether you can respect me or not. | |
| Oh, I 100% do. | |
| I think I don't think a body count matters at all. | |
| Yeah, I don't think it matters. | |
| I'm going to talk about that at all later, too. | |
| I'm just waiting for that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We'll talk about body count counts. | |
| But let's just say it's 1 million, and if people don't respect me over it, they wouldn't have respected me even if I had five. | |
| So also, it's just tired because every single podcast, everyone has to ask me about my body count as if it's like a zinger moment. | |
| I'm like, you have one million, huh? | |
| Do you have a brother? | |
| I do have a sibling. | |
| Do they do corn by chance or bros? | |
| No. | |
| Are they just like average guys, kind of? | |
| He's in university. | |
| He's just a normal Joe, yeah. | |
| So just, I want you to continue on your point here. | |
| Oh, but something that always interests me is the kind of, and I think usually the way I frame this is like your looks equivalent, but since you have a brother, that would be. | |
| I'm way cuter than my brother. | |
| Okay, but same genetics, right? | |
| Okay, well, I'm like super bimbo fun. | |
| I got face surgery. | |
| I got a chin implant. | |
| Good times. | |
| Thanks. | |
| Okay. | |
| So does your brother slay? | |
| Does my brother slay? | |
| Slay. | |
| Does he slay? | |
| No, he's a loser, dude. | |
| No, I like when he gets bitches, I'm like, no, no, he definitely isn't a virgin. | |
| I don't know how he gets woman at all. | |
| Oh, so he's like, I think he's a noob. | |
| But that's because he's my oldest. | |
| He's 21. | |
| I think he's, but I'm his sister. | |
| So I'm like, ew. | |
| Like, I've like seen you shit yourself, bro. | |
| Like, I do not know how anyone sucks your dick. | |
| Like, you are so gross. | |
| But I think he, he probably thinks I'm gross. | |
| Like, he's probably like, ew, My friends do not want, my friends cannot follow you. | |
| Ew, So, yeah. | |
| What if we die? | |
| Send the asteroid, boys. | |
| Okay, so do you know what your brother's body count is? | |
| No, what? | |
| That's like such a TMI moment. | |
| Do you ask your mom her body count? | |
| That's crazy. | |
| I actually. | |
| Okay, never mind. | |
| What? | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| Okay, so, geez, we're kind of going all over the place here. | |
| I kind of want to try to keep things directed. | |
| You were asking about preferences. | |
| So, what are your bare minimum preferences and standards for a guy? | |
| Let's talk height. | |
| Let's monument. | |
| I know I could pay for it. | |
| I mean, okay, we're going to actually talk about the actual bare minimum. | |
| First of all, I'm a sex worker. | |
| He just has to be, first of all, chill with that. | |
| Like, it's not like a groundbreaking concept to him, like, what my occupation is. | |
| Because I'm not like, what? | |
| I just don't feel like I have to explain that anymore. | |
| Number two, he has to be funny. | |
| You know? | |
| And I feel like the funniness is why all the guys I've had sex with are all different shapes, sizes, and vibes. | |
| Because it's just like, if you're fucking funny and you're like a woke guy, then we're just going to fuck. | |
| Cause why not? | |
| Seems like a silly little thing to do this afternoon. | |
| Okay, so funny. | |
| That's, and that's kind of it. | |
| You know? | |
| Like, I also, I like enthusiastic consent. | |
| I don't like guys who think you're too cool to say like, hey, you're really pretty or hey, like, let's do this. | |
| Like, I don't need you to be aggressive, but I want it to be really clear. | |
| Like, hey, you want to do this. | |
| If I feel like I have to like really break my back to see, like, hey, do you like even want to do this right now? | |
| Or like, do you think this is weird? | |
| I don't want to do it. | |
| I want to make sure that you have a healed perspective on women and sex and you like are comfortable expressing like, hey, I'm attracted to you and I think we should do something about it. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Standards. | |
| What are your standards? | |
| You said like you know what you want, right? | |
| So what do you want? | |
| Right now, I'm it's like hard for me to even think about that because I thought that I found the person that I was going to like live the rest of my life with and then it ended up not being that ended up not being the case. | |
| And so right now I'm actually just really focused on myself and I can't even think about like dating somebody right now. | |
| But if I had to like take a step back and remove myself from that whole situation and I got to choose, okay, this is exactly the type of person that I want to like manifest into my future, then let's start with height. | |
| Okay, so you're five. | |
| You're 5'5 right now. | |
| I'm 5'5. | |
| So I would really appreciate it if I could wear heels around them. | |
| Okay, so it's like bare minimum height for a guy. | |
| Like 5'6. | |
| 5'6? | |
| 5'6. | |
| You know, at least an inch. | |
| Okay. | |
| I once spoke to little person. | |
| Wait, you hooked up with a dwarf? | |
| Is that, I don't know if that's an offensive term anymore. | |
| I think it's little person. | |
| Yeah, it's just little person now. | |
| I thought dwarf was the legal term or not legal. | |
| Well, okay, look. | |
| There's no illegal term. | |
| It's not a scientific term. | |
| I think it started like midget was like the previous one, which is now inappropriate. | |
| Inappropriate. | |
| But then dwarf was. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think it's regional. | |
| I think like little person. | |
| And now I think little person. | |
| And then in five years, little person will be offensive, and then they got to change it to. | |
| I think little person, I don't know. | |
| Well, there are people and they're little. | |
| It's called the euphemism treadmill. | |
| They deem a word bad, and then they give it a new word, and then that word becomes bad. | |
| And then, so it's just, it's kind of ridiculous. | |
| But like moisture. | |
| So voice is still in its like bad character art. | |
| Voice. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you hooked up with a sh dwarf? | |
| Of a little person. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you know any like female little people? | |
| Like for you? | |
| Yeah, for me. | |
| I'm trying to get it in. | |
| Yes. | |
| I do. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm like, I would, I would. | |
| I would date a dwarf. | |
| What's up? | |
| I know like a lot of little people's strippers. | |
| It's just kind of a thing. | |
| Are you thinking about that girl at Exotica? | |
| She's pretty much. | |
| She's huge. | |
| She's tiny. | |
| But no, okay. | |
| First of all, height does not affect dick size. | |
| So bro was like, if like, if I'm this big. | |
| So a literal third leg. | |
| Bro, it was like he had a footer, but it wasn't actually a footer. | |
| It was just like he was short, so it looked big. | |
| But I'm sure like if he was an average, because sometimes when you get with a really tall guy, their like dick looks smaller because they're like so big. | |
| You know, like who knows? | |
| Like if you had a six incher, it probably looks like it's three inches because you're tall. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| But what if you were like a little person, your dick probably looks like it's eight million feet long? | |
| Why are we visualizing my penis right now? | |
| I'm sure, I'm sure it's huge. | |
| Here, while we're at it, let's talk about labia. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I have. | |
| Do you have an innie or an outie? | |
| I think I have a half and half. | |
| You know, like it's not like a roast beef situation, but it's like we don't use that term here. | |
| We don't use it. | |
| It's expensive. | |
| Roast beef? | |
| No. | |
| But that's what it would look like if it was like super outie. | |
| And I know that. | |
| No, but that is a derogatory term. | |
| I feel like I'm a kazoo. | |
| I'm like a little burger. | |
| How dare you? | |
| You are a burger. | |
| You are a burger. | |
| I am a burger. | |
| You are a misogynist. | |
| I'm a kazumi. | |
| I like massages. | |
| How dare you? | |
| Shame women. | |
| Anyways, I fucked a little person. | |
| Moving on. | |
| Sorry I interrupted you. | |
| You were shaking your path. | |
| Yeah, okay, so five, six minimum. | |
| What else? | |
| I want them to take care of themselves. | |
| So like into fitness and ambitious, like has something that they're working towards or has already like mastered their okay. | |
| How much should they make per year? | |
| Oh God, I haven't even, I mean, I wouldn't even, I haven't even thought about that to be completely honest. | |
| Well, let me, so do you want to care? | |
| Let me go through this. | |
| So I want three kids, so I guess that's okay. | |
| So you want three kids? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so what's the ideal age of a guy you'd be looking to marry? | |
| How old are you? | |
| You're 30. | |
| Yes. | |
| Give us a range. | |
| Do you want to get married, correct? | |
| I do want to get married. | |
| Okay. | |
| Ideal age of a guy you'd like to marry? | |
| I guess my age and up to like 34. | |
| I think we have to cut off like probably 37. | |
| 87. | |
| That's a little old. | |
| Okay, so you're 30 and you want to have kids. | |
| By when would you like to be married and have kids by? | |
| In a perfect world, I want to start having kids like no later than 35. | |
| That's getting into high-risk pregnancy territory, but okay, you're 30, so that gives you 50%. | |
| I've also got a lot to do, and I also want to actually be with that person, be able to enjoy that person, like just us, than to just get married, have kids, and then do the whole like thing. | |
| Like if it happens, it happens. | |
| Sure. | |
| How much of the family income do you personally want to contribute? | |
| So do you want the 50-50? | |
| Do you want, what do you want? | |
| I've always said this. | |
| I think that it would be nice to have my future husband be able to take care of all of the not-so-fun stuff. | |
| And then with my income, we do like family vacations and all the fun stuff. | |
| Extra care care. | |
| Okay, so not 50-50. | |
| Somewhere between 50-50 and stay-at-home mom. | |
| I will never be a stay-at-home mom. | |
| You won't be a stay-at-home mom. | |
| Well, okay, so how much of the family income do you personally want to contribute? | |
| I mean, I want to be making as much as you. | |
| Okay, well, you won't have now. | |
| I'll send you my referral. | |
| Yeah, you know. | |
| You're going to have to talk to her after the show so you can make $3 million a year. | |
| Yeah, we'll go for a talk then. | |
| We'll go for ice cream later. | |
| We'll have a debrief session. | |
| I do not want to show my boobs. | |
| But okay, so here's the thing, right? | |
| So you said you want three kids. | |
| Kids are expensive. | |
| So how much of the family income do you want to personally contribute? | |
| Like, why does it have to be like a set thing? | |
| Like, I just want to be able, I never want to have to rely on a man for anything. | |
| Like, I want to be able to take care of myself. | |
| And then said, say something terrible was to happen, because that's just where my mind goes. | |
| You can leave if he knows. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Like, what if something, like, he hit me? | |
| Like, hopefully that doesn't happen. | |
| But, like, say, if that did happen or he cheated or like we just fell out of love, that we could go our separate ways and I would still be 100% okay, not only supporting myself, but also my children. | |
| Do you think falling out of love is a good reason to break up a family? | |
| See, I think here's the delusion when it comes to family. | |
| Like, the way it used to work is love was not really a factor when it came to having a family and starting a kid. | |
| If you loved each other, great, but it was a partnership. | |
| But okay, so here's the thing, though. | |
| You said that you want to be independent, but you also just said that you'd prefer the guy to take care of the important things, and what you would contribute would be towards the vacations and the fun stuff. | |
| So I'm just trying to arrive at a I'm just trying to give you like, well, example, I'm giving you my version of the answer that you're looking for. | |
| So it's like, it's not like a certain percentage. | |
| It's like the, it would be nice if he had, if he made enough to like take care of everything and then was like, don't worry, you know, like, I got you, I got us. | |
| Like, I want to be the provider and like support you. | |
| Like, I want your money to be your money and like you be able to take care of like all the vacations and all the fun stuff. | |
| So, okay. | |
| That'd be fun. | |
| Not necessarily that I would let that happen, but that that would be cool. | |
| Okay, so our money is our money, but my money is my money. | |
| So his money is your money. | |
| Your money is your money. | |
| No. | |
| Like, we're together. | |
| We're a team. | |
| We're a family. | |
| Okay, so you have an Etsy shop and you sell trinkets and you make $10,000 a year. | |
| And then he makes $100,000 and pays. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I guess my question is, you said you want three kids. | |
| So three kids, you're going to want, tell me about your house size. | |
| Square feet, bedrooms, bathrooms. | |
| It's like, do you need her Social Security number too? | |
| No, but okay, the reason I'm asking is because account and routing number. | |
| No, but if you want three children, you're going to have to factor in, okay, well, what's the house size? | |
| Do they have their own bedrooms? | |
| So do you have a sense of how big of a house you'd like to live in? | |
| How many bedrooms and bathrooms? | |
| And do you want to stay in California? | |
| Well, if I end up having three kids, I don't know about the whole stay in California. | |
| Okay, you want at least one bedroom for you and your husband, correct? | |
| Yeah, that'd be cool. | |
| Okay, so you know, we all have this one. | |
| And I want an office. | |
| You want an office just for you or a shared office? | |
| It could be a shared office. | |
| You and your husband. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So an office would sort of count as another. | |
| And then the guest room. | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| Guest room. | |
| And then master, office, guest room. | |
| And then a bedroom for each child? | |
| eventually i feel like okay so that's six bedrooms like it's it's really it's really mess messes with your head when you turn 30 because you society puts this like pressure on you to like be i don't what to like be a certain way or to be at a certain point in your life Sure. | |
| Well, are you talking about in regards to the development of a relationship and having kids? | |
| Well, I mean, there is a certain biological reality that women have to face and there's a limited period of time in which women can get pregnant. | |
| So women do have a pressure that doesn't exist, that exists for them that doesn't exist for men. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I mean, there's certainly scientific interventions. | |
| I don't know if these answers when like, I don't know what my future is going to look like. | |
| But I mean, okay, so you're 30 though. | |
| So, I mean, and you said you would like to start having children by the time you're 35. | |
| So there is some degree of urgency with which you need to get this figured out. | |
| But I guess I'm trying to. | |
| But also, I'm saying if it doesn't happen, then like I'm not going to be like, my life isn't over. | |
| Sure, I think that's what I'm saying. | |
| I think that's also super cool with being this, like the cool, rich aunt. | |
| That's totally fine. | |
| I mean, me personally, I'm not sure if I'm not set on having kids myself, but you did say that you do want kids. | |
| So you said you want three kids. | |
| So let's just, you said you want to master a guest, an office, and then three, you're going to have three kids, and it sounded like you want a bedroom for each of the kids. | |
| Bathrooms, maybe four, three, four bathrooms. | |
| Like, I guess two and a half. | |
| Two, okay, two and a half. | |
| Like one for the kids, one for me. | |
| Okay, six bedrooms in California. | |
| So that's probably going to run you at least a million dollars. | |
| I mean, more. | |
| It depends what part of California, but you're probably looking at a $2 million house. | |
| Okay, so car-wise, do you want regular car, luxury car, doesn't matter? | |
| Well, I drive at Ben's right now, and I'm convinced you can't go back. | |
| You can't go back. | |
| I love my car. | |
| Do you own your car outright? | |
| No, I lease it. | |
| Do you lease it? | |
| Because I knew I would want a new one in three years. | |
| Okay, so do you want to go on vacations, regular international vacations? | |
| I have traveled internationally in my past. | |
| I don't necessarily like, I'm not obsessed with it. | |
| Sure. | |
| But maybe once or twice a year, go on a vacation with the kids? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Not always with the kids, though. | |
| Okay, sometimes. | |
| Okay, so have like a bad thing. | |
| Also, the idea of me having kids right now in this moment of my life makes me like it's a big, it's a big no. | |
| But perhaps in five years. | |
| Maybe at 35. | |
| Well, you seem pretty adamant about wanting three kids. | |
| Well, that's kind of, it's like kind of like the go-hard or go-home type of mentality for me. | |
| It's either like, we're going to do this and like have a family and create like, I picture like, you know, like team sports and them fighting, but like also loving each other and like growing up and having that like bond. | |
| Like I'm a single child. | |
| So like I always was jealous a little bit of people who had siblings. | |
| So like I've always wanted like it's either zero or like a family, family. | |
| So given kind of all the information that you've provided, what would your husband, what would you like your husband's income to be? | |
| Enough. | |
| Enough. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Enough. | |
| Why does it have to be in numbers? | |
| Okay, but if you want these things, your husband's income needs to be a certain amount. | |
| what if he's like what if he's an entrepreneur and his income fluctuates and then like you know sometimes it's six figures a month and sometimes it's well I mean you can average you can average it per year You can just do an average. | |
| What would your average be off of base off of everything that I said? | |
| What would you think? | |
| I mean, I'm not going to tell you the kind of husband that you ought to marry, but... | |
| Well, but, like, that's the... | |
| You're going to have to. | |
| Okay, so if you want to, in California. | |
| But it doesn't seem like those are like things set in stone that she's committed to. | |
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | |
| If it doesn't happen, it's like doesn't seem like it's a big deal breaker in her life. | |
| Like, I feel like when she said she wants a guest room, an office. | |
| But she doesn't need to. | |
| Three bedrooms. | |
| Yeah, that's like, you're asking me like a perfect world. | |
| In the ideal world. | |
| No, but that wasn't the question. | |
| I just answered it, though. | |
| I said in my house. | |
| No, I didn't say perfect world. | |
| I said, how many kids would you like? | |
| And I asked you, tell me about, you know, the house size, bedrooms, bathrooms. | |
| Okay, it's implied you definitely meant like in a perfect world. | |
| Like, what would you like? | |
| I understand. | |
| I did not say perfect world. | |
| Okay, well, I'm not. | |
| I'm speaking realistically. | |
| I'm saying realistically. | |
| Okay, well, see, ideal world, idealistically. | |
| Okay, so if someone were to ask me, idealistically, Brian, what do you want? | |
| I want a harem of like 70 virgins. | |
| Hell yeah. | |
| That's ideal. | |
| Am I going to get it? | |
| Fuck no. | |
| But you didn't say realistically. | |
| I think that's only a little bit. | |
| You're right. | |
| I didn't say realistically, but I also did not say idealistically. | |
| I think you're going to be able to get away from that. | |
| But I think you ought to assume you ought to assume that I'm you lean more towards realistically with the questions I'm asking. | |
| If you say if you don't say realistically, I'm totally going to give you answers from like my perfect ideal world. | |
| No, but if someone asked me, if someone asked me, Brian, what kind of girl do you want or what kind of relationship situation do you want, I wouldn't give the ideal of I want 70 virgins. | |
| Is that your ideal? | |
| I mean, I'm sure you could give us like the best. | |
| Give me a million girls. | |
| You know, you'd be like, I would like her to have double decuffs or something. | |
| I'm team small titties. | |
| Yeah, team small titties. | |
| Or whatever. | |
| It's like, you know, of course you're going to sorry. | |
| I like small titties. | |
| But it's like, I feel like those are things that would be cool if they happened, but if they didn't, I think like there's this assumption that just because someone is older, there's this ticking time clock of either, is your purpose going to be fulfilled because you have a family or is it not? | |
| And it's like, as you grow older, you just realize it's not that big of a deal to hit these milestones that the world puts on you. | |
| It's like if she has these three kids and this one million dollar husband, then it's fine. | |
| But if not, it's okay. | |
| And, you know, life moves on. | |
| Well, I mean, there's there, it's not a societal pressure necessarily. | |
| There's a biological pressure, too. | |
| It is also a societal pressure. | |
| Yes. | |
| You can read the comments. | |
| These are not about her biology. | |
| It's the comments are about societally she's sturdy. | |
| The comments are not really part of the society. | |
| But those are part of society because we're performing on a stage right now. | |
| Yes, there is a societal, I suppose, some degree of societal expectation, but there's a biological reality that you have a limit in terms of when you can get pregnant and bring that child to terminate. | |
| Hold on, why don't we do this TTS? | |
| I personally am looking to freeze my eggs and then have surrogates and then start a family when I'm like 40. | |
| Okay, but you have the money to do that. | |
| And it's not a guarantee that that even works. | |
| See, most, I mean, that's a very expensive, a surrogate's very expensive. | |
| Like, so you're, most women cannot afford to do that. | |
| But yeah, so that's why I'm saying I am. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I'm not speaking for all women. | |
| That's fine, but you're certainly an outlier. | |
| You make $3 million a year. | |
| That's why I'm not speaking for all women. | |
| I'm speaking for me. | |
| But so the biological reality holds for most women that if they want to have kids, they need to do it by a certain age. | |
| I think the biological reality is if it doesn't work out of a person, then I'm just not going to have kids with them. | |
| Even if it's too late for me and I can't afford a surrogate, then I'm just not going to have kids with them. | |
| Well, that certainly would be the biological reality if you're 40 or 45. | |
| Then it is the reality you're not going to be able to have kids. | |
| I'm not really sure with what you're trying to say. | |
| I'm just trying to say that for a lot of women, it's not necessarily like a mandatory part of their lives to start a family. | |
| No, of course not. | |
| It's not mandatory. | |
| It's cool if we do, but it's not really a goal I aim for to become a milestone in my life. | |
| Would you agree, though, that generally speaking, most women want to have a family, want to have kids? | |
| Not all, but most women. | |
| I don't know if most women right now want to have a kid. | |
| Okay, most. | |
| I think you want me to say that, but I don't think a lot of women. | |
| Especially now that they have their own jobs and are able to do more things with their lives and also have kids at a later age. | |
| A lot of women don't really want kids right now. | |
| I don't think, are you sure you want kids right now? | |
| Well, we're not talking about. | |
| Do I want kids? | |
| Well, perhaps in the future, but I yeah. | |
| But it's not like you're like, go gung-ho about like the next woman I meet must carry my child. | |
| It's like that's not what we're talking about, though. | |
| What are we talking about? | |
| We're not talking about the gung-ho-ness with which you're trying to find someone to have kids with, although perhaps as you start, well, I think honestly, you should actually start quite young trying to find a long-term partner. | |
| Why? | |
| Why? | |
| Yeah, why? | |
| Well, I'm not. | |
| What if I don't want to? | |
| Well, you're free to do whatever you want, but me personally, I'm not really. | |
| How old are you? | |
| 33, but I'm not in favor of hookup culture. | |
| Then you wouldn't. | |
| I don't think hookup culture is good for somebody. | |
| That's the last time you hooked up with somebody. | |
| Saw me roasting. | |
| Sabbi roasting. | |
| Sydney. | |
| I just did. | |
| You fucking like derail the conversation. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Just like that. | |
| The conversation has been derailed so far, and I've been wanting to talk about something for so long. | |
| We do need to do the TTS, though. | |
| By the way, Dank Naked. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| The TTS is broken. | |
| I apologize, but we will treat. | |
| We'll do a spoken TTS. | |
| Go ahead, Kazumi. | |
| I must just rip the band-aid off. | |
| Also, Dank Naked, I speed read this, doesn't go outside. | |
| I could tell. | |
| But do you really think a man that has enough money to support a family with three kids would be looking for a 30-year-old or someone that is younger and more fertile? | |
| It's very unlikely. | |
| I beg you to leave Reddit, bro. | |
| Dude, I also think it's really obvious he is not a guy coming into a single mom with three kids. | |
| I think we're talking about her starting a family, which is also a normal age. | |
| Anyways, and also some grass. | |
| She's kind of hot. | |
| She would be a hot. | |
| Dude, she's absolutely hot. | |
| It's not even a kind of. | |
| My goodness. | |
| No, like, she's like super sexy. | |
| Where did the kind of come from? | |
| I mean, like, rounded. | |
| Kind of hot. | |
| I would shoot myself in the face. | |
| In GTA, sorry. | |
| Brian's like, oh, my God. | |
| I said in GTA. | |
| I've done Twitch streams. | |
| By the way, all labia matter. | |
| All labia do matter. | |
| How dare you, Kazumi? | |
| I have burger lips, bro. | |
| Google it. | |
| Shame. | |
| How dare you shame me? | |
| I eat all vaginas. | |
| It's not, I don't. | |
| No one also, I don't even care about dick size. | |
| If I'm about to fuck a guy, if he pulls his pants down. | |
| Stop the cap. | |
| First of all, yeah, no, let's stop the cap. | |
| You guys live in this imaginary world where, first of all, I don't, this is probably a rare occasion, but if you pull your pants down and your dick is lame, I'm already here. | |
| It's not like I'm going to be like, this shit is too small. | |
| I'm going to leave. | |
| We're going to just work with what you got. | |
| Also, lesbians exist. | |
| Would you see him again? | |
| If he could eat some fucking pussy, the ocean, not the size of the boat. | |
| Yeah, like if you have like some insecurities that you're dick size and you feel like women leave because of your dick size, learn how to eat some pussy. | |
| Wait, you're talking about me? | |
| I'm talking into the general public. | |
| In the world. | |
| But you were like, what the f? | |
| Well, what if, okay. | |
| Let's not stop. | |
| Like, if a guy had a micro penis. | |
| Eric, can you close the door? | |
| If a guy had a micropene, most girls are donezo. | |
| I think I've been with guys who've had average-sized dicks or smaller. | |
| She's average. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| Or smaller. | |
| Okay. | |
| We need to give you a class on listening. | |
| I've also been. | |
| We need to give you a class on listening because when I was talking about all that shit, you weren't listening at all. | |
| Like what? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| No, like explain yourself. | |
| No, no, no, go ahead. | |
| No. | |
| We're going to continue on, but go ahead. | |
| No, explain yourself. | |
| What do you mean, explain myself? | |
| Like, what was it? | |
| When we were talking about the pregnancy thing, you were not listening. | |
| Like, how? | |
| You were not listening. | |
| So explain how. | |
| We're having a discussion. | |
| Because I just. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Okay. | |
| You want to make the exception into the rule, but I was speaking in generalities. | |
| And I was speaking as an individual. | |
| Okay, but continue your point. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| The point about small sizes. | |
| Micropenes, yes. | |
| First of all, I've been with average-sized dicks and smaller and women. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I've also been with guys with big dicks. | |
| The common feature that'll make me want to come back is, am I going to come? | |
| And that's in general. | |
| If your dick is big and you can't make me come, then I'm not going to come back. | |
| The dick size is seriously not that important, but it is talking to a deaf choir because you guys don't care how many times we say we talk about dick size. | |
| You guys don't. | |
| Women can tell you all day. | |
| Do you speak for all women? | |
| Do you care about dick size? | |
| Is it super duper? | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| If a guy has a micro penis, Sydney, is that going to be an issue for you? | |
| I mean, it won't feel as good. | |
| Okay, so it'd be an issue for you. | |
| Would you pursue a long-term relationship with a guy who has a micropenis? | |
| If everything else is on point. | |
| Oh, so he has to make up for it. | |
| So he has to make up for his detriment. | |
| Okay, go ahead. | |
| It has to be a good sexual, it has to be a good physical relationship as well as an emotional relationship. | |
| I get what you're saying. | |
| I will say, like, I've been in the same situation as you and, like, probably, like, one of the, but yeah, no, I get it. | |
| I agree. | |
| Okay, if I can acknowledge that some women don't care about dick size, can you acknowledge that some women do? | |
| Yeah. | |
| We don't live in a world of absolutes. | |
| We are in a very nuanced world. | |
| Unless I'm specifically saying all people, I'm talking about me. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But so you're almost saying that it's unreasonable for men to think that it is something that some women, perhaps most women, do care about to some degree. | |
| I think, I think what it, no, no, no. | |
| I think what it is, is that like, okay, for instance, how we just had this conversation, how when she says she speaks, she speaks as an individual. | |
| And when you speak, you speak for the general population, right? | |
| What the message that she's trying to say, and honestly, the message that I agree with, is that men need to stop living in this world of absolute. | |
| Not every woman is going to care about how big it is in your pants, bro. | |
| Like, sure, you might run into some girls who are like, oh, you know what? | |
| I just can't vibe with that. | |
| And that is truth. | |
| But there is also truth that some women won't care. | |
| And that's a thing. | |
| Like, if you as a man carry yourself in a way in this world of absolutes, like every woman is going to care about this. | |
| Every woman is going to care about that. | |
| Then you are going to shrink the world that you live in and the ability to make connections because you are creating that reality for yourself. | |
| And you need to live with the fact that there are going to be people who disagree with you and there are going to be people who agree with you. | |
| Just like there are going to be girls who care about how big it is and there are going to be girls who don't. | |
| There are going to be girls who care about how much money you make. | |
| There are going to be girls who don't. | |
| Yes, that's all. | |
| That's really it. | |
| That's really it. | |
| Your take? | |
| Yeah, I definitely agree with everything that she just said. | |
| I agree with everything that she just said. | |
| Okay, so if a guy's got like a two-incher, it's all good. | |
| No. | |
| Oh. | |
| Yeah, I care personally. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, average. | |
| Average and up. | |
| Average. | |
| What's average? | |
| Show us with your hands. | |
| What's average? | |
| No, I'm not sure. | |
| Show us with your hands. | |
| Come on. | |
| But like, I'll be able to do that. | |
| Some women think average is fucking. | |
| Yeah, no, that's not what I think. | |
| But there's, I'm sure, guys who have huge penises that. | |
| Peeni. | |
| Yeah, peani. | |
| I love it. | |
| That don't know what they're doing, just like they were just saying. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Also, if you would allow me, I would love to bring it back to the point of, I've been wanting to talk about this for so long and how you never got to Sydney, is it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, you never got to meet Sydney about if we would settle with a man who has, who doesn't have all the super desirable features and like what our standards are. | |
| So also at this party, her birthday party. | |
| Oh my God, my best friend. | |
| Her name was Turnt. | |
| As a 5'8 woman, I will say for the majority of my life, I have always looked to men who are either my height or taller. | |
| But lately, and especially at this party, there was this guy there who was shorter than me. | |
| I don't know how much shorter, but I could make like I had to look down a little bit. | |
| He was definitely shorter than me. | |
| I could like see the top of his head, but he was funny. | |
| He dressed really nice. | |
| I thought he was really cute. | |
| And I was ready to change his life in the bathroom, bro. | |
| Like, dude, we need to go use the bathroom. | |
| Like, and here's the thing. | |
| If I was just walking like in the middle of the street and I saw him walking down, you're right. | |
| I probably would have just been like, okay, you know, it's just another guy, whatever. | |
| But at this event where I am, you know, on a mission to connect with people, not necessarily sexually, but just like make connections with people. | |
| I thought he was really cute. | |
| And I. | |
| He was dressed up as a knight. | |
| I thought he was really cute. | |
| And I have not been able to stop thinking about him. | |
| I'll be honest. | |
| Keep listening. | |
| Stop. | |
| I'll give him your number. | |
| But like. | |
| Are you just pandering though? | |
| No, are you just pandering? | |
| No, but he's really cute. | |
| But what I'm saying is that that is not what I would usually look for. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| So although he wasn't six foot, he had so many other desirable qualities to me, which was his personality and the ability, like common interests. | |
| Let's talk a little bit about his personality. | |
| So you said he was funny. | |
| Dude, yes. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Was he imagining this guy? | |
| I'm like, oh my God. | |
| Not him. | |
| Was he exceptionally funny? | |
| No. | |
| Okay, he was just averagely funny. | |
| Yeah, he was just like averagely funny. | |
| I think he's funny. | |
| Was he good looking? | |
| I mean, in the conversation that we had, he wasn't like exceptionally funny. | |
| Okay, was he good looking? | |
| Aside from his height. | |
| To me, yes. | |
| He was well dressed. | |
| Yes, he's totally not her type. | |
| Okay, so, and you said you're 21, and throughout the whole course of your life, you're 5'8, you've never found other short guys attractive. | |
| I've only found, no, okay, so this is a second short guy I found attractive. | |
| I found, I actually did have a thing with another short guy. | |
| At another party of mine, the same bathroom. | |
| This is a trend. | |
| So my question is, you said, and you're 21, the second short guy you found attractive. | |
| Let me ask, how many? | |
| What's short for you? | |
| Hold on, Sydney. | |
| How many six foot one men have you, let's say six feet and above men have you found attractive? | |
| Thousands? | |
| Oh, God, no. | |
| Jesus. | |
| Come on. | |
| No, dude, because I think most guys are assholes. | |
| I'm going to just say it. | |
| I'm into the very non-conventionally attractive guy. | |
| I'm into big guys. | |
| I'm into nerdy guys. | |
| I'm not talking about the whole thing. | |
| I'm just talking about height. | |
| I'm just talking about height. | |
| Okay, well, in height, I don't know. | |
| I don't not like maybe. | |
| You've probably seen thousands of men. | |
| But they're not all hot. | |
| Just because they're tall doesn't make them sexy. | |
| No, I'm not saying that all tall men are attractive, but would you say the vast majority of men who you have deemed to be attractive also happen to have been tall? | |
| So I guess the point I'm trying to make is. | |
| I mean, I guess, but that's also because, and I will be honest, I haven't really been in too many situations where short guys have the confidence to talk to me. | |
| And that's where it is, right? | |
| If more short guys came up to me, talked to me, and like weren't afraid, like weren't intimidated by my height, I probably would have also found them attractive. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sure, I mean, look, some short guys do have some limiting beliefs when it comes to that, but it's not imagined. | |
| A lot of short guys will shoot their shot and girls like, girls will fucking clown on short dudes. | |
| So it's not like some hundred percent. | |
| I'm not going to say that that's not real, but my advice is just like, I don't know. | |
| Hopefully you can find some better, more open-minded, accepting woman in your life. | |
| I don't disagree with you. | |
| I don't disagree with you. | |
| Okay. | |
| So two short guys, though. | |
| That's the thing though, is like if they're short, then they have to like work extra hard to make up for it. | |
| I have to work extra hard as a fat girl. | |
| Sure. | |
| That's just how it is. | |
| Like they're again in the middle. | |
| How do you work extra hard? | |
| I have to have a really good personality for most of these guys. | |
| If I'm fat and dull, they're like, what are you even doing? | |
| At least in my personal experience, right? | |
| And also, I have always been like the nerdy girl. | |
| I've always been into anime, into video games and stuff like that. | |
| And that is a personality trait that was normally looked down upon until like COVID in recent years. | |
| Now it's like kind of cool to be like a nerd and into anime and stuff. | |
| It's been cool for a while. | |
| For guys, not for girls. | |
| For guys? | |
| Do you think dudes were like curving chicks because they were into anime 10 years ago? | |
| No. | |
| Yes, bro. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Well, I'm talking about my personal experience, right? | |
| And a lot of men were like, oh, you're into like this weird shit. | |
| But hold on, you're 21, so you turned like 18 or 19, like during the pandemic, when you presumably would have more seriously started dating. | |
| You don't date in high school? | |
| You don't have crushes in high school? | |
| Middle school, like what? | |
| You do, but it's not like, it's not like standard dating, you know? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, it's not serious dating, but you still develop like romantic relationships with people in high school and like social relationships. | |
| And you're right, we are talking about dating specifically, but I have had a lot of people be like, you're weird for being into that stuff. | |
| And you're also a big girl, so I am not going to give the time to you. | |
| Okay, Sydney, you go ahead. | |
| Then I got to do the super chats. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| On your standards or whatever. | |
| Funny is just like a big one for me, honestly. | |
| Like if a guy's like funny and he's like, height doesn't matter for me at all. | |
| But like a gym guy for sure, or like a guy that's like, like I go to the gym daily, so if a guy can go to the gym with me or like it or like finds that motivation to like be athletic. | |
| Okay, sure, sure. | |
| That's definitely something I look for. | |
| Okay, let me get these super chats, guys. | |
| Sorry that we're a bit late on the super chats here. | |
| We've been having quite a lively conversation. | |
| Guys, get your super chats in. | |
| TTS is kind of funky, so we have to just read it straight up. | |
| But by the way, Derek Mann, I don't know if you're still in the chat, but I see you. | |
| Thank you for all the support, the past streams. | |
| All right. | |
| Oh, that one already came up. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Yo, Captain Bambalam, $20 Super Chat. | |
| Ladies, do you believe a man will take you seriously? | |
| Oh, did we do this one? | |
| No. | |
| If you are an OF creator, a corn star, a single mom, or loud and obnoxious, do you think your chances increase or decrease when you're a combination of any? | |
| Because Zumi went to the bathroom. | |
| Maybe we'll catch her when she comes back. | |
| I suppose this is more directed towards, well, there's the other components. | |
| Single mom, loud, obnoxious. | |
| So do you think that because you are an OnlyFans creator and you do corn, that that shrinks your pool of potential partners? | |
| Yeah, but I don't think it should. | |
| Like, you don't think it should. | |
| Okay. | |
| I am in, I have to live in reality, right? | |
| And the reality is that my career and my line of work is still something that is shamed by both men and women, right? | |
| Not just men. | |
| And a lot of people have a lot of strong feelings about it. | |
| But I am thankful that most of the people that are in my life don't really think that it's something that should be shameful, right? | |
| And I work towards destigmatizing it every day in my civilian relationships because it is just like any other job. | |
| And truthfully, if somebody like even if anyone else gets up to go to the bathroom, just go that way. | |
| But also, like, even if I wasn't a Shrex worker, I wouldn't want to date. | |
| If I wasn't a Shrex worker, I wouldn't want to date somebody who disrespects Shrex worker because I believe that as a human, Everyone should be respected the same, no matter your career or what. | |
| What if they don't disrespect sex workers, just they don't want to date them? | |
| Then that's on, that's cool, whatever. | |
| Like, you are entitled to your preferences. | |
| And if me doing this kind of work bothers you, then it wasn't going to work out anyways, and that's fine. | |
| Like, move on next. | |
| So, Kazumi, the question is: do you believe that a man will take you seriously long term if you're an OF creator or corn star? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Happens all the time. | |
| But do you think it potentially limits your pool to some degree? | |
| No. | |
| You don't think, well, I mean, there's certainly some men out there that wouldn't date me. | |
| There weren't people I would have dated. | |
| Sure, that's fine, but does it limit your pool? | |
| No. | |
| I have no problem dating. | |
| No, but that's not the question. | |
| Does it are there? | |
| Do you think there are men out there? | |
| It limits people that I wouldn't. | |
| Yeah, I'm sure there's people that wouldn't want to date me, but I don't. | |
| You wouldn't want to date them. | |
| Yeah, so it wouldn't matter. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But you said that, I'm trying to remember the first part of what you said in response to this. | |
| You said that it shouldn't be an issue for people. | |
| It shouldn't be as big as an issue. | |
| And I think that just has to do with the general stigma that is around Shrek's work. | |
| And I think that when it becomes more destigmatized and people can just treat people like treat, like treat people like people, no matter their career, that will also go down, if that makes sense. | |
| So do you, although you acknowledge that it is some men's preferences to not want to date a girl who's a sex worker or who does OnlyFans, you object, do you object to that preference? | |
| I don't object to that preference, but I know that a lot of the men who are like, oh, like I would never date, blah, blah, blah, don't say it as a personal preference. | |
| They say it as like almost in a shaming way. | |
| It's like, wow, how dare you go into that line of work? | |
| Like that is so shameful, like blah, blah, blah. | |
| So if it's more so just like, you know, like I personally just wouldn't want to date somebody who's in that line of work, cool. | |
| But the truth is, is that these men demonize me. | |
| These men demonize her. | |
| These men demonize women who work in this field. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, also, everyone's entitled to their own preferences. | |
| I personally wouldn't eat, I wouldn't date a cigarette smoker. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't date a piggy eater. | |
| Okay. | |
| I probably wouldn't date someone who vaped, but that's like a dumb hill I'll die on. | |
| There you go. | |
| Yo, John Ruby. | |
| I'm with you on that one, though. | |
| John Ruby, ask these lovely ladies what their Valentine's Day plans are. | |
| My birthday's on Valentine's Day. | |
| So I'll be in Italy being spoiled. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Do you have Valentine's Day plans? | |
| I'm moving to Costa Mesa on the 13th, so I'll probably be unpacking. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wow, that's a far move. | |
| What is John's Valentine's Day plans? | |
| So I, me and my partner's relationship is also on the 17th. | |
| So we actually do like a little, like a three-day celebration or 14, 15, 16. | |
| It's like a four-day celebration. | |
| Sydney? | |
| Yeah, I think I might just be picking up like working or just the gym. | |
| Single life. | |
| We're doing a show on Valentine's Day. | |
| If I go to the gym and the guy here, they're single. | |
| Kazumi, can you hear me? | |
| These women want men to check off her boxes and carry her baggage at the same time. | |
| Send a freaking asteroid. | |
| What are they talking about? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| He's saying that I have baggage. | |
| I'm not trying to. | |
| Oh, there's the astronaut. | |
| I was like, I thought it was like a metaphysical, metaphorical. | |
| Yo, Alvin, thank you for the 50s. | |
| The TTS is broken, but Kazumi is acting as our disappointment. | |
| Impromptu update. | |
| You are the impromptu TTS. | |
| Okay, so we have, we did that one. | |
| Jack P, $20 Soup Chat. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| I'm 30 plus. | |
| I spend way too much time on my podcast. | |
| Two days a week, would you date me? | |
| Don't let you forget. | |
| I'm a high-value male. | |
| Oh, this guy's just roasting me, I think. | |
| He's asking you on his name's on my streams. | |
| Yeah, he's uh, yeah, no, he's fucking cheeks. | |
| Thank you for the $20 soup chat. | |
| Brian, beaten Cheeks is back. | |
| Hey, baby! | |
| Brian, you better not give these Renfrews any of my donations. | |
| I contribute to your show, dude. | |
| I will literally take it from you somehow. | |
| Also, come Zoomy, you seem triggered. | |
| Just accept not all men want you sitting on their face. | |
| Shout out to the two innocent ladies on here. | |
| Shout out to you, two innocent women, and the choices you've made. | |
| All right, Kazumi, what you got here? | |
| Sorry. | |
| As a man from the 805, you guys got an awesome show. | |
| Question for the ladies: Since Fresh and Fit slash Andrew Tate was brought up, would you go on their show? | |
| I already did. | |
| Next time, I'm Home Harry's Free Birds or Cold Spring. | |
| Yo, Travis, thank you for the $20 Soup Chat. | |
| 805 for life. | |
| Yeah, Freebirds is the shit. | |
| I thought Cold Springs burned down, but you should see my Fresh and Fit. | |
| It's already awesome. | |
| I thought so, but maybe not. | |
| So two of the girls on the show have actually been on Fresh and Fit, Kazumi. | |
| And yeah, so yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's a different experience being on their show because they, the dynamic is really weird. | |
| Because if you kind of know that argue, because obviously we're talking about like hot button topics, but they've made this, they like made it really clear that if you kind of like disagree too hard, you will be kicked out and not tagged, which is kind of like, okay, well, I've been here for three hours. | |
| So I wait, did you get kicked off? | |
| No, I didn't get kicked off. | |
| You got Frank Castle. | |
| What's Frank Castle? | |
| That's what they call like when they kick a girl out. | |
| Oh, no, I didn't. | |
| I stayed the whole time, and it was interesting because we were able to have discussions, but they did kick another girl out, and I felt sorry for her. | |
| Well, so I don't think they kick a girl out if she disagrees too hard with them. | |
| It's if they're being like rude or disrespectful. | |
| Yeah, they kicked her out for like a copious, what is it? | |
| Like when they interrupt you? | |
| Oh, she's just interrupting a shit ton. | |
| But yeah, I think she got really belligerent and like it was just kind of like an awkward stream. | |
| Like it was like she was just like, and it was like, okay, okay, like let us like talk a little bit more. | |
| Really quick before I do the rest of the super chats, you mentioned that you're a waifu, you like anime. | |
| Can we get an uwu and an ara-ara? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| You can get the XXX version on my website. | |
| Okay. | |
| Uhu. | |
| And I'm not really good with the ara-a. | |
| What about you, Kazumi? | |
| Can you do either? | |
| What is the ara-a-ara? | |
| It's like, ah, no, I'm not going to do that. | |
| What about the uwu? | |
| Uwu? | |
| Oh, Jesus. | |
| What does it mean? | |
| No, it's just like it's the face, yeah. | |
| Uwu? | |
| What's the ahigao? | |
| The ahigao face is like when you stick out your tongue and cross my camera. | |
| No. | |
| Kazumi. | |
| My eye has three bucks. | |
| Kazumi. | |
| See it there. | |
| The ahigao is a cum face, so I can't do it naturally. | |
| I'm really bad at it. | |
| Like, I'm really bad at making a fake orgasm face. | |
| It looks like I'm having a seizure and shitting myself at the same time. | |
| Wow. | |
| So I'll save everyone the dignity. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yo, burning below $20 Soup Chat. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Oh, go ahead, Kazumi. | |
| Generally, most men don't care about women's money because men make their own money and women won't spend their money on their men. | |
| Anyways, your experience: a man's money is both their money and a woman's money is her money. | |
| That's just reality. | |
| Yep. | |
| You're in your own little prison, bro. | |
| That is not my problem. | |
| The thing is, though, is like women really don't share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with their own people. | |
| If we're generalization, but yeah, we're speaking in generalities here. | |
| But that's most men's experience. | |
| But you could just find a girl who doesn't think that way. | |
| If it's a big deal for you. | |
| I could also find. | |
| You know what it is? | |
| It's like. | |
| It's like we can pretend like the world is black and white when in reality it's way more nuanced and it's not that hard. | |
| But okay, but kind of the purpose of the show is to have a generalized discussion about dating dynamics. | |
| I feel like the purpose of the show is also to show you guys a different perspective. | |
| But okay, so do you okay? | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| Do you disagree with the following statement? | |
| Generally speaking, most women prefer to date men who are taller than them. | |
| Like, are we talking? | |
| Okay, this is like a layup. | |
| This is the upside. | |
| In your world, yeah. | |
| It's not about in my world. | |
| It is in your world because in my world, anyone cares. | |
| Kazumi, what's the color of the sky when the sun's out? | |
| Blue. | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| I'll humor you. | |
| Yeah, generally speaking, I guess women do care about height. | |
| That's like if you the majority of women care about that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Generally speaking. | |
| Majority of women. | |
| But also, if it's a really big deal to you and you're like a short guy, you will find love somewhere. | |
| It's totally possible. | |
| There's a lot of short kings out there. | |
| Also, I was doing a fuck a fan for short kings. | |
| Unrelated. | |
| But it's also like there are many people out there that are short that also get laid all the time. | |
| I went on a date with a guy that was shorter than me. | |
| But here's what. | |
| My first boyfriend, my longest relationship was a short guy, and he was three inches shorter than me. | |
| And I don't think we're like exceptions to a rule. | |
| I think it's just a thing that happens. | |
| Sydney, can I ask you a question? | |
| Has a guy ever either spoiled you or offered to spoil you? | |
| Yeah. | |
| How many guys? | |
| A few. | |
| Like handful. | |
| It's nothing to be ashamed of. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How many? | |
| Like in DMs or in person? | |
| Like the worst? | |
| Both? | |
| Like 20? | |
| 20? | |
| Are they typically maybe a bit older guys? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Late 20s, early 30s. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So men will spoil women. | |
| Women don't spoil men. | |
| Generally speaking. | |
| Okay. | |
| What's this? | |
| You disagree? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I mean, maybe generals. | |
| Who should pay on the first date? | |
| Men or women? | |
| Oh, geez. | |
| Who should pay on the first date? | |
| Whoever asks. | |
| Okay. | |
| Who should pay on the first date? | |
| The man or the woman? | |
| Everyone has their own opinions on like. | |
| Whatever your opinion is, fine. | |
| just asking you me personally going out on if some if somebody say I was asked him out on the first date then I would pay because I'm asking him to come to dinner with me but But vice versa, same thing goes for him. | |
| So like if he asks me to go out, then I would expect him to pay because he's inviting me somewhere. | |
| Okay, you said whoever pays. | |
| Whoever asks. | |
| Sorry, excuse me. | |
| Whoever asks should pay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Same? | |
| Same, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm very pro on splitting it, but I've also, like, I've been the one to ask out the guy and I've been the one to pay. | |
| And I, like, have no problem. | |
| But I think splitting is good. | |
| Sure. | |
| Who should be the one who asks? | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| I want you to go first. | |
| I mean. | |
| Who should be the one who asks? | |
| I don't feel like there's any rule. | |
| There's no like should. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know? | |
| If you had to give us a range, how many first dates? | |
| Me personally, how many first dates have you? | |
| It's going to be very rare for me to like go out of my way and ask somebody out. | |
| Like, I want to be pursued. | |
| That's just a personal point. | |
| So you want the guy to ask you. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| But I also have been in a, like, my long relationship, we split everything down the middle all the time. | |
| I just bought in the relationship that I was in, like, previously, I, for his birthday, bought us a one-week vacation to Oahu. | |
| That's wonderful. | |
| Like, that's great. | |
| You know, like, I spoil my boyfriends too. | |
| Like, I don't just expect to be spoiled. | |
| Like, I feel like there needs to be a give and take. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you said that If you had to like give it a range, how many first dates have you been on? | |
| 100? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Nothing. | |
| No, I know that there's nothing wrong with how many dates that I've been on. | |
| Just first dates. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Do you think it's over 100? | |
| So you're third years? | |
| I don't know if I would call every time I hang out with somebody new, like a date. | |
| I don't really. | |
| Let's say the first, instead of dates, let's call it the first time hanging out with someone new. | |
| How many times has that occurred? | |
| I mean, probably. | |
| I mean, I've been dating since I was like 15. | |
| Sure. | |
| It was 15 years ago. | |
| So 200. | |
| Maybe like 100. | |
| 100. | |
| Anywhere from 100. | |
| Okay, so of those 100, let's say. | |
| How many of those did you initiate? | |
| I don't think I've ever initiated a first date or like the first time hanging out with somebody. | |
| So just to bring it back to the who should pay thing, you said that whoever asks should pay. | |
| However, of the 100 first dates or whatever you want to call them that you've been on, you've not initiated any of those. | |
| Ergo, the guy should pay, the man should pay. | |
| There go, in my situation, the man should pay, yes. | |
| Right, because you say whoever asks should pay, yet you've never asked a guy out. | |
| Because I don't have to ask guys out. | |
| Precisely. | |
| Women don't have to ask. | |
| But they could. | |
| She's also speaking as an individual because I've had the completely opposite experience. | |
| Okay, but I would say you're an outlier. | |
| I would say most women are more like her than they are like you. | |
| Okay, but why can't there be, why can't most women be like me? | |
| I agree. | |
| Why don't women initiate more? | |
| Because they don't have to. | |
| They have the privilege and the benefit of not having to. | |
| I think that's just, I think that's just, again, like personal preference. | |
| I think that's straight up. | |
| It's not personal preference. | |
| I think it's up to the woman, right? | |
| Sure. | |
| And that's the thing. | |
| Like, sure, maybe they don't have to, but like, just pursue other women that would want to be willing to like give you more. | |
| Like, if that's your problem. | |
| Men don't have the privilege of waiting around, letting women come to them. | |
| If men did do that, they would die virgins. | |
| I reach out to men all the time. | |
| I'll shoot my shot. | |
| You're an outlier. | |
| I'm an outlier. | |
| You're an outlier. | |
| Yeah, but I'm still in the conversation. | |
| So I still count. | |
| Even if I am a minority. | |
| I'm not excluding. | |
| I know. | |
| I am an outlier, but my experience is still representative of a lot of other women who are just like me. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| She is right here, and that's 50% of this whole squad right here. | |
| Okay, but that doesn't represent 50% of all women. | |
| It doesn't. | |
| That's not what I said. | |
| I'm saying we were presenting 50% of the women right here. | |
| But just because you guys, but just because you guys move a certain way doesn't mean that that's going to be representative. | |
| I think you're trying to create this fake issue, right? | |
| Like men don't have the privilege of women reaching out to them, which seems like maybe women haven't reached out to maybe you. | |
| I've reached out to plenty of men. | |
| I will slide in a guy's DMs. | |
| I do not give a fuck. | |
| I swear to God, a lot. | |
| Like Odell Beckham Jr., I'm sure women throw themselves at him all the time. | |
| And if it's a guy at a coffee shop. | |
| You DM'd Odell? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| He DM'd you? | |
| No, I'm saying. | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| I'm saying as an example, like women do shoot their shot all the time. | |
| If I get a shot, they'll shoot their shot with a guy who's a fucking NFL player. | |
| No, dude, we were at In-N-Out. | |
| You give Odell. | |
| How about the normal guy that works at Starbucks? | |
| I go for it. | |
| We were at In-N-Out, and we were at the drive-thru, and the drive-thru guy was super cute. | |
| And I was like, what's up, cutie pie? | |
| And he was like, oh, my God. | |
| I think it's funny, though, too, because like guys do not get hit on nearly as much as we can. | |
| Yeah, like we can agree that you hit on a guy. | |
| Personally, me, I love making the first move because when you hit on a guy first, because they're like, whoa, no way! | |
| It's so fun. | |
| But the question isn't like, have you hit on a guy? | |
| Have you asked a guy? | |
| Yeah, I have. | |
| I like asking. | |
| Like, I've been talking about the girl. | |
| Can I tell you a story? | |
| Clown world in the chat, Stanley. | |
| Can I tell you a story? | |
| I told you I have multiple times. | |
| No, not in response to you. | |
| I can't tell you a story. | |
| You can just pretend that women don't do that, but I think it's maybe these guys. | |
| You know, like, women, three out of four women here continually hit up guys. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Okay, but Kazumi, you are an outlier in numerous ways. | |
| You make $3 million a year. | |
| Is she an outlier? | |
| She is a pretty, she's a pretty woman in college who hits on guys. | |
| Thank you. | |
| And goes on dating. | |
| She's an outlier, too. | |
| Okay, but how are three of us outliers in all of these things? | |
| Because we're just looking at us right here, though. | |
| Like, majority of women do not make the first move on guys because majority of women feel like, A, a man should come up to them first, like, a man should spoil them first. | |
| Like, we just have like a different movie. | |
| I think, you know, well, I think that in society's views, yeah, sure, most women don't do that. | |
| But I guess the reason that we're saying that, hey, yes, we are women and we enjoy making the first move. | |
| We enjoy initiating. | |
| We enjoy doing the things that the man is traditionally supposed to do. | |
| We're just saying that to give the people watching the perspective that like life is not just a box that you choose to put yourself in. | |
| Like there are so many different things going on. | |
| The exception does not make the rule. | |
| The exception does not make the rule. | |
| It is the exception when a woman initiates. | |
| I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it is the exception. | |
| I'm speaking in generalities here. | |
| Now, Kazumi, you said that, well, maybe, you know, it just doesn't happen to you, Brian. | |
| Well, first off, you are right. | |
| It doesn't happen to me. | |
| I would tell you this, though. | |
| My looks equivalent, my say, status equivalent. | |
| If a girl had my following and was my looks equivalent, I'd give myself, well, we could do the rating later. | |
| But she's getting like 20 DMs a day from dudes. | |
| I almost never get DMs. | |
| And here's the thing: average women, average women will get DMs. | |
| Average men will never in their life get a single DM from a girl. | |
| If a girl does, in the rare instance that it happens, does approach a guy, she's going to go for like the guy she really, really likes. | |
| Whereas guys are going to shoot their shot at like girls that are their equivalent or even girls that are like looks-wise below them. | |
| I think also women are socialized to not do the first move because they don't want to seem slutty. | |
| They don't want to seem easy. | |
| They don't want the guy to be like, oh, is she thirsty? | |
| Is she like desperate? | |
| Like, why is she doing that? | |
| You know, I'm a girl and I get rejected sometimes. | |
| You know, like, I feel like the reason there's many reasons why men don't get hit on as much as women, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. | |
| I think it comes off as confident rather than. | |
| I want to continue with this conversation. | |
| Can you do this, TTS? | |
| When Brian is talking, like saying in general, the average, he is talking about what is likely and realistic. | |
| He isn't talking of absolutes at all. | |
| You are still valid, but are representative of all women. | |
| All women aren't in your position. | |
| Thank naked. | |
| Thank you for the $50 super chat. | |
| Would you want me to approach the conversation since I can only talk about my perspective? | |
| But okay, look, we can talk about. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| How many fingers do humans have? | |
| 10. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I'm going to push this question again. | |
| Listen. | |
| Brian. | |
| But, okay. | |
| Humans have 10 fingers, correct? | |
| Humans generally have 10 fingers, Brian. | |
| But we are talking about the human experience. | |
| Yeah, right? | |
| Which is nuanced. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| But that's not the point I'm about to make. | |
| Are some humans born with an extra digit? | |
| Sure. | |
| Do some humans have 11 fingers? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, but it's not incorrect to say that humans have 10 fingers because generally speaking the vast majority of humans. | |
| What would this podcast be if I just continually agreed with you? | |
| There would be no podcasts. | |
| You don't have to agree with me. | |
| Yeah, we're not agreeing. | |
| So I am here to give you your counterpoint, which is my ultimately extremely different experience than yours. | |
| But it's almost like you're not acknowledging the fact. | |
| I do understand a fact. | |
| I know you're talking about the general speaking public, but I'm saying that the general speaking public doesn't actually exist. | |
| We live in a world on the internet which has several different micro-communities of people who believe a certain thing and live by different societal rules. | |
| Okay, Kazumi, here's the thing, is that we don't actually disagree. | |
| There are women that initiate. | |
| We don't disagree, but it's sort of irrelevant because the point I'm trying to make is that men don't, like, they don't get approached. | |
| They don't get initiated like that. | |
| And I think that's what I'm saying. | |
| And you're trying to say, well, some women do, but that's really not, that doesn't, that really doesn't combat the point I'm trying to make because I agree with you. | |
| Some women do initiate. | |
| Most women, however, don't. | |
| So what do you want from this conversation? | |
| Well, you can't, if I say most women don't initiate, most women don't approach men, your counter to my argument cannot be, well, some women do. | |
| You don't disagree. | |
| No, I'm saying, well, I'm not. | |
| You're not. | |
| I'm giving a different perspective to an experience that a lot of these men online think that they are trapped in, right? | |
| A lot of these men do believe that what you're saying is an absolute, unfortunately, because they are warm-brained, okay? | |
| A lot of them. | |
| They're not warm. | |
| It's not specifically about what I said. | |
| They think that you are speaking in absolute terms. | |
| They don't understand that there are women like me who exist, right? | |
| I have preempted almost all of my statements by saying, in general. | |
| And I have preempted most of my statements by saying my experience. | |
| But you're saying I'm speaking in absolutes, even though I've repeatedly said to read your fucking chat. | |
| Your chat obviously thinks a lot of these things are absolutes. | |
| They have not met women like me, so it's important for them to see women like me, tell them my experience. | |
| There are women that will hit on you. | |
| There are women that don't care about your dick size, your height, your finances, or whatever. | |
| Really, the best way to approach dating is just by being a good person. | |
| Okay, it's not wrong for someone in the chat to, for example, say women don't approach men. | |
| Generally speaking, they don't. | |
| And there's nothing wrong with me saying sometimes they do. | |
| Right, that's true. | |
| Agreeing. | |
| Yes, I agree with you. | |
| I agree with you, but it does not, it doesn't change the fact that for most men, they are invisible. | |
| Most men never get approached. | |
| They never get a DM in their entire life. | |
| An average man will never get approached in his entire life. | |
| He'll never get a DM in his entire life. | |
| You cannot say the same about an average woman. | |
| I think you, first of all, a lot of women don't get approached in real life. | |
| We are pretending that all women look like us. | |
| Okay, there are a lot of women who are very unconventionally attractive. | |
| There are women who aren't really cool or popular. | |
| There are women who, and they don't get it, and they don't. | |
| It depends on the setting. | |
| If you go to a bar or nightclub, almost like any woman's been approached in those events. | |
| Wrong, wrong. | |
| How often do you go to bars or clubs? | |
| Okay, so you've never been hit on at a bar or club? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| No, I really haven't. | |
| No, I'm so serious. | |
| I really haven't because I am a big girl, Brian. | |
| I'm a big girl. | |
| Hey, some guys. | |
| No, and you're right. | |
| Some guys, my boyfriend's certainly into big girls, and that's why we're together. | |
| But I don't normally get approached in public. | |
| And I also don't normally get approached meaningfully and truthfully in the DMs either, right? | |
| Because look, as a woman, I am tall. | |
| I am big. | |
| I also don't really consider myself conventionally attractive. | |
| Perhaps that's the issue then. | |
| Okay, but see, why can't that be the truth for men then? | |
| If they're not getting, if they're not getting approached because they have low confidence, then doesn't it make sense that they're obviously not going to attract anyone? | |
| But besides the point, what I'm trying to say is as a woman who is a human, has insecurities, is tall, and generally doesn't fit like the super attractive mold of what men are normally attracted to, I have been put in a position where it's a norm for me to initiate because the majority of men don't initiate with me. | |
| But that doesn't mean that there aren't going to be a few guys who do initiate with me because in like the recent times there have been. | |
| But I, as a woman, don't normally get approached in outside areas, especially when I'm surrounded by women who are more conventionally attractive than me, shorter than me, skinnier than me. | |
| That's just how it is. | |
| But I don't, I don't let that fester in my brain and make it seem like, oh, I'm never going to find love, like blah, blah, blah, whatever. | |
| I need to make the change in myself to achieve what I want. | |
| Okay, but do you, you are out there in the ether when it comes to social media, so you don't get any DMs? | |
| I mean, you have an OnlyFans, I assume your patrons, or I don't know what the proper, your fans, I guess. | |
| I don't know what the proper term is. | |
| I suspect that they have a romantic interest in you. | |
| They DM. | |
| Okay, well, first of all, people who DM me on social media don't normally DM me to have a meaningful connection with me. | |
| They're like, oh, you got a Snapchat. | |
| Oh, can you send me pictures? | |
| Oh, can you send me videos? | |
| But most guys don't even get that. | |
| Because, okay, in what position would a man be put in? | |
| Or like, what scenario would a man be in for women to approach him like that? | |
| Because when, because for me. | |
| You're right. | |
| Men don't get DMs. | |
| So you have an OnlyFans page. | |
| Exactly. | |
| I am personified as a sexual being, which is why men are okay DMing me stuff like that. | |
| Well, I thought you said you don't get DMs. | |
| No, I told you I do have DMs, but a lot of them aren't for personal connections. | |
| They're just like. | |
| They're romantically or sexually interested. | |
| They're most of the time sexually interested. | |
| Well, but that's kind of what we're talking about. | |
| Yeah, but what I'm saying is like the only thing. | |
| Men don't get any of that. | |
| They don't get sexual. | |
| They don't get romantic interest. | |
| None of it. | |
| Are they posting a lot? | |
| Are they putting themselves out there? | |
| They put themselves out there like on social media. | |
| Yeah, like the guy who chops wood, Bradley Thor. | |
| His DMs are split. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Who? | |
| You and the other guy who's that guy? | |
| Me. | |
| Bradley Thor. | |
| Is that a male model? | |
| It's like he's like a guy who is in the forest and he chops wood. | |
| He's like very like, I don't know, popular. | |
| With women or whatever? | |
| In Instagram. | |
| With women. | |
| Probably with men too. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I actually have a friend. | |
| I have a friend who's like a super muscular bodybuilder, dude, and his DMs are blown the fuck up by men. | |
| And women. | |
| Okay. | |
| You said he's a body. | |
| How many followers does he have? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe like, I don't know. | |
| I haven't looked. | |
| I don't. | |
| I don't even, I don't know. | |
| Like a lot, though. | |
| Like a lot. | |
| More than 100,000. | |
| I mean, I think over 100,000. | |
| Okay, a girl with like 1,000 followers is getting a lot of DMs on Instagram. | |
| Sydney, how many followers on Instagram do you have? | |
| 1,700. | |
| A little over 100. | |
| How many DMs per week would you say you get from men? | |
| Unopened ones, I have like 35 right now. | |
| Like in the request. | |
| That you received in the past? | |
| Like in the past week, I've gotten like five. | |
| Five DMs. | |
| Yeah, and some of them are from like your show. | |
| Yeah, but you haven't been on the show in months. | |
| I know. | |
| So it's like, okay, some of them are from the show. | |
| How about before you were on my show? | |
| Were you getting DMs before you ever were on my show? | |
| Were you getting DMs from men? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You have 1,700 followers? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| How many per week were you getting? | |
| Like three or four. | |
| Do you have any siblings, male brothers? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Older or younger? | |
| Younger. | |
| How young? | |
| 12. | |
| Okay. | |
| There's no DMs there, but okay. | |
| So, okay. | |
| Your male counterpart, let's say, goes to city college. | |
| No girls are DMing him. | |
| No girls are, you're how old 20. | |
| I'm 22. | |
| You're 22. | |
| No 22-year-olds at Santa Barbara City College, no males, are getting DMs. | |
| Maybe some of the football players might be getting DMs, but even then, SBC, what is it, like D3 or some shit? | |
| Of going to school? | |
| Well, SBCC, the football team, what is it, D3? | |
| Oh, they're D, yeah, D3. | |
| They're D3. | |
| Okay, yeah, no chickscare. | |
| D3. | |
| No. | |
| And honestly, though, like, I do think, and, like, I see it from both point of views, too, because I have both friends, like, some of my best friends are guys, but like, I do see it. | |
| Guys do not get DM'd. | |
| They don't. | |
| They don't get DM'd. | |
| They don't. | |
| I will say that, like, generally speaking. | |
| Yeah, they genuinely. | |
| Yes, 95% of men. | |
| I've been debating DMs. | |
| The guys you do DM are like fucking hot. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Dudes will be so pretty. | |
| A guy could DM a girl that is like less attractive than her and still get blanked, still just invisible. | |
| So like. | |
| Anyways, I do want to get through the super chats because we have quite a few guys. | |
| So let's continue on here. | |
| Okay, so we have Louis Britto, 20 Law Super Chat. | |
| Question for the panel. | |
| What constitutes a bum at what yearly income bracket you'd be okay with dating a guy, even if he works six days a week and makes under it sounded like from our earlier conversations, most of the girls seemed okay. | |
| It didn't really care too much about income, but if any of you are. | |
| I mean, a bum is like a mindset. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like, it's like I've met guys who are trust fun babies and I think they're bums. | |
| And it's like they live in giant penthouses. | |
| And it's like, you just don't. | |
| No ambition. | |
| No ambition. | |
| There's no passion. | |
| Like, I was going to like roast my butter, but it's like he has no job, bro. | |
| It's like, bro, you are a bum. | |
| Like, please figure out something that makes you feel alive. | |
| What I can think about is no scrubs. | |
| Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. | |
| Yeah, you know? | |
| And it's like, I've dated guys who, you know, like, I dated this guy, and he's like a construction worker, right? | |
| And he works so much. | |
| And obviously I make more, but he's cool. | |
| And it's like, he likes what he does. | |
| And that's interesting. | |
| And that creates a cool dynamic with us. | |
| So it's, yeah, it's more so a mindset than like an income thing. | |
| I don't really care if you're a blue collar or like an entrepreneur or whatever the fuck, as long as you really like what you're doing or not even like what you're doing. | |
| You're just doing something. | |
| Sure. | |
| I do have a – we're going to continue on with the Super Chats here in just a sec. | |
| Really quick question, though. | |
| I want to start with you, Sydney. | |
| Hold on, let me see. | |
| Okay, yeah. | |
| Would it be a deal breaker if a guy had trouble getting it up? | |
| Sydney, go ahead. | |
| Continuously? | |
| Like, this was an every time problem? | |
| Maybe not every time, but it was a continuous issue. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A little bit. | |
| Just because like I think at that point like I would get either like self-conscious but I would also be like what's the deal? | |
| Like why is this in every like if it's like a situation that never changes and you won't go like see someone about it or do something about it? | |
| Yeah, a little bit. | |
| And I mean a relationship's not totally based off of sex, but yeah. | |
| If it happens the first time as a rapper will you give him another opportunity or two. | |
| Okay. | |
| First time's not a rap for me though. | |
| Nico, go ahead. | |
| So it would be an issue, but it would be an issue that I would look to like get help. | |
| You know, maybe like intimacy counseling or talking about other factors like stress, what might be going on. | |
| If he couldn't get it up the first time, I would also definitely give him another chance. | |
| It wouldn't be like immediate, just the first time. | |
| Like it happens. | |
| People get nervous. | |
| Like I know that a lot, like I know a lot of the time it is mental for guys. | |
| And a lot of the guy friends that I have had who have talked to me about it are like, yeah, you know, like I was just really stressed out and like I was really nervous and blah blah. | |
| Like it happens and it's a normal part of life. | |
| Sure. | |
| Take a blue chew. | |
| Oh. | |
| There you go. | |
| That's what I was going to say. | |
| That's my advertisement. | |
| Say it again. | |
| What about you? | |
| Is it a deal breaker? | |
| Yeah. | |
| If it was like a continuous thing. | |
| Well, let me break up the question. | |
| So the first time, is it a deal breaker? | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I'll let everyone answer, but if it was kind of like continuous. | |
| I mean, I would obviously talk to them about it. | |
| And also there are definitely factors that come into play as far as maybe they're watching too much porn. | |
| Maybe they are low in testosterone. | |
| Like their hormones are imbalanced. | |
| Maybe they're super stressed out. | |
| Like maybe they're just not that into you. | |
| I have personal experience. | |
| I once dated a guy and I really, really liked him. | |
| And the first time it didn't work. | |
| And the second time, it didn't work. | |
| And there was just many, many times and it didn't work. | |
| But I really liked him. | |
| And I just really liked him, man. | |
| Like, I just kind of was like, we really just got to the root of the problem. | |
| And it was about just making him feel comfortable. | |
| I feel like some guys get intimidated with me sexually. | |
| So they're just like, oh, my God. | |
| So we just had more conversations about it. | |
| So it was just because I really liked him. | |
| Like, and I wanted to date this guy. | |
| But if it was like just a hookup, okay, the second time, okay, I don't know if we can do this. | |
| But if I really, really liked you, then we'll work through whatever. | |
| Like, it's not that big of a deal. | |
| Sure. | |
| But if you were kind of lukewarm on the guy, you didn't dislike him, but it wasn't like that connection you had with that one guy. | |
| Do you think that Eric had this? | |
| If he was creative sexually in different ways, like, okay, like a big thing I told him was like, okay, if your dick can't get hard and we're both naked and we're turned on, we have to keep this sexual energy flowing through different types of foreplay or just making sure we're still both like interested in doing this. | |
| Like if you kind of are like, I'm not hard, like this whole thing is over. | |
| We're not even going to try to turn you on, then dude, what the fuck? | |
| Like let's move on and do something else. | |
| Guys, get Blue Chew. | |
| Get Blue Chew. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool, cool, cool. | |
| So do you need a pharmacist to say you could buy that or you could just buy it? | |
| You need to. | |
| It's like a doctor. | |
| It's like a subscription. | |
| It's like, oh, I can't just buy it. | |
| It's just like online and then the doctor can do like a televisit or whatever. | |
| I think it's like him's and her. | |
| And then they ship it to you. | |
| They ship it to you. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Cool, cool, cool. | |
| Let's get back to the super chats. | |
| Wait, do we. | |
| Kazumi, do you want to read this? | |
| Michaela and Fitneys, you're on the right track. | |
| Men don't care about how much you make. | |
| OF girls, are your fodders proud of you? | |
| Yeah, he's retired. | |
| What about yours? | |
| Did you retire your dad? | |
| Yeah, bitch. | |
| Oh, snap. | |
| What about that, Frankie? | |
| All right, by the way, sorry for the delay to getting to the speed of cheeks is like losing his mind over me. | |
| Dude, are you jerking off to this? | |
| I'd be decent in life and would rather date a Walmart beauty over a Walmart beauty over an only homie's ran-fruit girl. | |
| Women date on their level or up, men date down and above. | |
| So that's both directions. | |
| Brian can explain the 80-20 rule. | |
| Fickney and workout girl, I got you. | |
| Are you workout? | |
| Am I also workout girl? | |
| She's workout her workout girl. | |
| Well, she has a name. | |
| You got that? | |
| And her name is Michaela. | |
| High value men. | |
| No, if I'm making money, it's our money. | |
| If you are making money, it's your money. | |
| Okay, Derek. | |
| Go crazy. | |
| By the way, look at, he's got like a sick beard. | |
| He's got like, is it a goatee or a beard? | |
| I can't tell. | |
| I love genders. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yo, Derek, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Go crazy, Derek. | |
| Shoot me a DM later, Derek. | |
| Yo, oh, this came through. | |
| Did this come through as yeah, we said this already. | |
| Okay, okay, okay. | |
| And I was like, it's your right, Jacob, to date whoever you want. | |
| Bernito, I'm going to be honest. | |
| I think that OF girls are out of touch with financial differences between men and women because their paychecks are exponentially greater than most men's pay with little to no effort. | |
| Little to no effort? | |
| Take a dick of your ass, bro. | |
| See how easy it is. | |
| Okay, Bernito, thank you for the do it. | |
| There's a reason a lot of girls don't do it. | |
| The social stigma is hard. | |
| There's also a lot of reasons why girls drop it after like a month or three. | |
| Like it really is not as easy as people make it seem and it's so annoying. | |
| Yeah, most girls read these chats and this would break them, dude. | |
| Like this. | |
| You gotta have thick skin. | |
| Yeah, I don't give a fart if you do. | |
| It's like if like the average girl who tries, like the reason. | |
| Use frick. | |
| Do frick, by the way. | |
| What the fart is so funny? | |
| If you don't like it, frick is better. | |
| You can say the F. | |
| Yeah, I don't like swearing. | |
| It's scary. | |
| Okay, that's fine. | |
| All right. | |
| We got this one correct. | |
| We already said this. | |
| Alvin, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Oh, Derek, again. | |
| Hell, I just hope you are wearing a Jimmy for this conversation. | |
| No problem on the support bread. | |
| Oh, he just tipped again. | |
| I just don't understand what these girls think a high-value man would run for them. | |
| What is your valuable asset? | |
| I'm fun. | |
| You're fun. | |
| My valuable asset is that I just wouldn't, I don't really know what his angle is. | |
| You wouldn't date him? | |
| Is that where you're going to be? | |
| I mean, I don't really, I don't think I would date him, but it wouldn't be because of anything. | |
| I just honestly, anyone, any guy who labels himself as a high-value man is not someone I'm not looking your way, bro. | |
| Yeah, go touch some grass. | |
| What you got, Kazumi? | |
| To the panel, do you think you would make a good wife to a high-value man? | |
| There is so why? | |
| I don't know what you mean by high-value man. | |
| Like, are we talking in the actual term like a guy who's just a really cool dude? | |
| Then, yeah, I probably am and will be. | |
| If you mean high-value man the way this guy's probably thinking about a high-value man, just disregard the high-value man completely. | |
| Would I be a good wife? | |
| You would be a good wife. | |
| Yeah, I'm not like, why not? | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm going to be an amazing wife. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Absolutely freaking Luli. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| So all of you said you'd be a good wife. | |
| So my question is, what do you bring to the table? | |
| Why'd you say it? | |
| Why'd you bring where are you like? | |
| Fuck. | |
| God's question. | |
| What? | |
| Are we starting from here? | |
| Are we starting? | |
| Sydney, you first. | |
| Damn. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm very supportive. | |
| I'm like, I have like my love language is definitely like, I think my love language like covers all bases. | |
| And I'm just like, I know that I'll be a good partner. | |
| Like, I know that I'll be able to take care of my spouse. | |
| I know that I'll be able to support them and be there for them no matter what. | |
| But like, right now, in this time of my life, like, I'm just doing me right now. | |
| Okay. | |
| Your turn. | |
| I bring a super fun life, truthfully, right? | |
| I bring really fun experiences. | |
| I bring an open mind. | |
| I bring a like a new perspective. | |
| I also bring, like, and when I say fun, that also means money. | |
| Like, I'm willing to pay, more than willing to pay for fun experiences to you, dinners, trips, whatever. | |
| I'm also very supportive, and I will, you know, definitely support you. | |
| And my husband, if he decides to try this, that, whatever. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I, yes. | |
| Also, nah, that's awesome. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| And truthfully, I bring a very fun aspect. | |
| When I say fun in all aspects of life, I also definitely mean like the bedroom because that shit gets crazy. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you bring to the table? | |
| Open-mindedness, honest loyalty, support, like good support system. | |
| I feel like that's very important in a relationship. | |
| Just being there for that person and like having their back no matter what. | |
| Putting them first, like making our relationship a priority no matter what. | |
| Making the relationship the priority. | |
| But I thought, didn't earlier, and I don't know if these two things necessarily contradict. | |
| Earlier, you said that you were independent. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so do you think that you said you want to continue working when you get married and have kids and stuff? | |
| Do you think that that could potentially come at the expense of the relationship? | |
| I would never be with a man who, like, it was a make or break deal where I had to be a stay-at-home mom or I wasn't allowed to have my own income. | |
| What, let me ask you a question. | |
| What if a guy made a million bucks? | |
| A million dollars and he could support you, but he said, I don't want you to work. | |
| It would drive me increase. | |
| It would drive me crazy. | |
| Like, I wouldn't be happy in that relationship. | |
| Well, what if he said, I want you to just take care of the kids? | |
| I want you to just be the caretaker for the kids. | |
| And I'm not allowed to do anything else. | |
| Well, no, I mean, if you want to go to the gym, stay fit, you know, do you? | |
| Well, no, what I'm saying is, like, I'm not allowed to do anything else as far as creating an income for myself. | |
| Well, I mean, if you're married, you guys. | |
| It's like a big backbone. | |
| Like, it's scary for women not to have something where, like, if it comes time for us to need to leave, we don't have an exit route. | |
| We don't have anything of our own. | |
| So, like, which is so sad that we even have to think about that. | |
| Yes, but it is. | |
| Like, she wants to make her own money, and don't let me speak for you. | |
| That's not the only reason why I want to make my own money. | |
| It's just because I want to have something that's my own because I don't want to just be a mom. | |
| Like, I want to have my own and keep my own identity. | |
| Well, just curious. | |
| So, you're going to have, you want to have three kids. | |
| Would you want to hire a like send them to childcare? | |
| Or would you take care of the kids? | |
| I would take care of the kids. | |
| I don't want to send them to childcare. | |
| Maybe I'll have like a nanny. | |
| That'd be cool. | |
| Okay. | |
| But if I work with the stuff that I do, it'd probably be from home. | |
| So or anywhere. | |
| Okay. | |
| The goal. | |
| But so you marry a guy who makes a million bucks, but he says, hey, don't worry about work. | |
| I got it. | |
| I got this. | |
| You don't have to work. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| That'd be nice, but like, I'm still going to work. | |
| Like, thank you. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| But like, I'm still going to have my own thing. | |
| So, what, I mean, but then if your husband says, well, I'd rather you focus on the kids, we don't care about your essay show. | |
| That would be a conversation that we would have before we even made the relationship. | |
| Sure. | |
| And it's totally fine that you feel that way. | |
| Go ahead, Kazumi. | |
| The initial question was. | |
| What do you bring to the table? | |
| What do I bring to the table? | |
| I feel like, first and foremost, with all my relationships, I'm just a great friend. | |
| You know, I show up, I listen. | |
| I provide. | |
| I just, you know, I care about your happiness, and I make sure I communicate things. | |
| Obviously, I'm a hard person to date because I do porn and I'm always going to be about ethical non-monogamy. | |
| But I feel like I'm exciting. | |
| I feel like I bring a lot of fun to the table. | |
| And not only that, it's like I'm a reliable person. | |
| And I feel like I also have a lot of hobbies. | |
| Like, I'm very talented. | |
| Like, I can actually do like wifey shit, like cook and clean and do shit like that. | |
| I want a cooking show. | |
| I want 10K. | |
| Tandem. | |
| Right? | |
| But that's irrelevant to the fact that what I bring to the table is that, like, if I want to be with you, I want to be with you. | |
| And I like, I like, I'm a big simp. | |
| Like, I love romance. | |
| I love to do things for my partner. | |
| Like, I look, like with my partner, I surprise him with roses. | |
| You know, I'll surprise him with a dinner. | |
| Like, you know, if there's an anniversary, then he always knows when he opens a hotel room, there's rose petals everywhere. | |
| You know, I make sure the guy feels validated and special and I'm not shy to tell him, like, I think you look so handsome. | |
| I think you look great. | |
| And I will show him with my words, my body, and like my actions. | |
| So I feel like I do bring a lot to the table in that regard when I am in a relationship. | |
| Got it. | |
| Do you want to read this? | |
| The two corn on the cups. | |
| That's funny. | |
| Need to come down from their cloud of financial independence and expensive lifestyle delusion in order to have a real conversation. | |
| You're the exception and you can't seem to grasp that. | |
| I do not have an expensive lifestyle, bro. | |
| You're crazy. | |
| I do not make the amount of money that she makes, okay? | |
| Just because I'm an OF girl does not mean I'm living in some like luxury penthouse eating fucking crab every night. | |
| Like that's not how that goes. | |
| I also feel like, I mean, it's not like I'm like a big baller spender for the most part. | |
| I save my, I'm like not an, I make a lot of money, but a lot of it is saved immediately into my retirement and investments. | |
| And I live a pretty normal, humble lifestyle. | |
| So it's like, I mean, I'm just talking realistically in a perfect world. | |
| And then luckily in the world I live in, the choices I make are because I want to do them and not based off of survival or convenience. | |
| She's so quick to defend her reality, but will instantly attack and try to disapprove the experiences of most men. | |
| Why can't you accept that a lot of men have it hard in the dating market? | |
| Sad face. | |
| Bro, because as soon as you wake up from the fact that a lot of your preconceived notions about what women want are self are enabled by yourself and your own experiences and decisions to decide that that's how you think relationships are, the freer you'll become. | |
| As Yaya said, you know, life for her is hard, dating for her is harder because she may not seem or feel like the most conventionally attractive woman. | |
| But if she like lived in that prison for herself, she wouldn't get anything done. | |
| She wouldn't be in a relationship and it would be hard. | |
| But because she takes the courage to put herself out there and not live in these restrictions where she feels like people wouldn't want to date her because of her weight or because of her interests, she is able to take a chance to take a leap and take a risk to meet people who would want what she is. | |
| And if men would realize like, hey, if you didn't give a fuck about as much as these insecurities that we tell you time and time again that we don't really care about, you would realize that it's not that hard. | |
| I used to have a sugar daddy and he was really cool. | |
| He was 27. | |
| He made video games. | |
| And all we would do is eat sugarfish and have the laziest backshots in the world. | |
| There was no issue with him. | |
| The only issue was that he was short. | |
| But the reason, but the issue, the real underlying issue was that he just wouldn't shut the fuck up about how he was short and how women wouldn't want to date him because he was short. | |
| And I was like, dude, honestly, women don't want to date you because you are just so loudly insecure. | |
| And once you work on this insecure part of yourself and just kind of like, just show up and be a cool guy the way I know you're a cool guy, trust me, woman would just date you. | |
| You know, like it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy of like, oh, I suck. | |
| I have to work up, like, make up for it in some weird way. | |
| And women can tell when you feel insecure and then it is a turnoff because the sexiest part of you is being confident and like working on yourself and your self-esteem. | |
| Yeah, but if a guy is confident, but he doesn't meet a woman's metrics of what she desires in terms of physical attractiveness, one of which is height, it doesn't matter if he's not. | |
| Find another woman, bro. | |
| But it doesn't matter how confident he is. | |
| You got rejected. | |
| It happens. | |
| You're a person. | |
| Not a person. | |
| But okay, if a guy's 5'2, if a guy's 5'2 and he's super confident, it's not like he's going to struggle with dating despite his confidence. | |
| Well, okay. | |
| Well, I'm still his friend, you know? | |
| And now he is still short because he, I don't know, height surgery hasn't existed to make you six feet tall yet. | |
| Don't do height surgery, guys. | |
| And now he gets girls. | |
| He always had an income that was cool, obviously, because he was my sugar daddy. | |
| The only thing that really changed is that he became more confident to talk to women. | |
| And he like worked on that part of his self-esteem. | |
| And that's what I'm just saying is like a lot of these things, small things, small factors aren't as big of a deal breakers as most men think as long as you are just happy with yourself. | |
| I mean, most short guys would have no issue dating a woman taller than them. | |
| But the reality is, is that they can be as confident as possible. | |
| But for some women, it's just, hey, that's kind of a deal breaker for them if the guy is shorter. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Yeah, for some women, it is a deal breaker. | |
| Probably most women. | |
| That doesn't mean all women. | |
| It's most women. | |
| Most women. | |
| But the point is now he's happy and he's dating women that are tall and they're just, it doesn't matter. | |
| It's not that big of a deal once you just escape that mindset. | |
| Deva, thank you for the Canadian $20 soup chat. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| Go for it, Kazumi. | |
| Who is Nora? | |
| You are out of touch. | |
| Look into Nora Vincent, the lesbian who became a man, not through surgery, for 18 months and only recently unalive herself. | |
| I don't really get their reference. | |
| Eric, can you open the door a little bit too? | |
| So there's a woman who turned herself into a man and lived as a man and as a man would for 18 months. | |
| And to basically run an experiment on how different it is for men and women in this society. | |
| Well, she was a feminist and she wanted to go in and basically point out, here, I'm living as a man. | |
| Watch all these privileges and benefits fall into my lap. | |
| And then she realized how brutally and crippling, crippling, geez, I'm butchering this, how brutally lonely it is to be a man and actually how difficult it is to be a man. | |
| And then she kind of, well, then later on, it's not clear to me if it's, this is why she deleted herself, but she did delete herself. | |
| Yeah, I would just need to know more context about that situation. | |
| But yeah, basically she was like, whoa, this is like the way I'm getting treated as a man. | |
| Like I'm getting all this stuff. | |
| I'm super lonely, blah, blah, blah. | |
| So go ahead, Kazumi. | |
| Bruh, Kazumi, if women were really approaching men, you would not be making 300K a month. | |
| Men pay because they don't get any. | |
| That's a very good point, actually. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Well, what? | |
| In terms of men having it harder for dating, these industries, specifically sex work, would not be generating the sort of money that it is if men were getting women. | |
| Do you think, first of all, I don't think only single men are in my OnlyFans. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| No, there's definitely guys who have girlfriends and are, I don't, that's, that just doesn't make any sense to me. | |
| But also most of your totally been with, and I've also hung out with my fans. | |
| I have a Discord to follow my fans. | |
| Some of them have girlfriends. | |
| Some of them do get pussy. | |
| They also just happen to support a creator. | |
| Like, I'm pretty sure most men watch porn. | |
| You know, the fact that they have the kindness to support a local hoe and like pay for my homegrown porn doesn't mean that they get no bitches. | |
| Let me ask you guys a question. | |
| Do more men watch porn than do women watch porn, generally speaking? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| Yes. | |
| I feel like I watch people. | |
| I watch porn. | |
| I think so, just because like I don't want to agree with you, but like you said, like it's easier for women to get sex than for men to have sex. | |
| And so I think like for men to watch porn, that's kind of like their way of like, you know. | |
| But I mean, women totally watch it too. | |
| I don't think porn is a supplement of human connection. | |
| It's not at all, but I think it's definitely like. | |
| I've definitely talked to guys who are athletes and like musicians and they're cool guys and they still watch porn just because they want to get off. | |
| It's not like they can't call a woman. | |
| It's just like, I just want to watch them. | |
| I watch porn sometimes. | |
| I don't think them watch. | |
| Yeah, of course, I definitely feel like men watch porn more than women. | |
| And that's also, but I don't know. | |
| I guess. | |
| Do you think men that are getting laid regularly watch more or less porn than men that don't get laid at all? | |
| I think if you're a guy who just kind of chronically watches porn, you do that regardless of being single or not. | |
| Like I know my boyfriend still watches porn and he can totally fuck me or someone else. | |
| Oh, we got two coming in. | |
| Okay. | |
| Ha. | |
| Which girl? | |
| Hi, Brian. | |
| And the girl. | |
| Oh, Kiki. | |
| Why when Chase is Chase? | |
| Why when Chase is present, the girls are always irritated at some point during the show? | |
| He has the right to have his own principles. | |
| Have you? | |
| Oh, yeah, I don't know. | |
| Have you ever invited Pearl to the show? | |
| Yo, Frank, Brub, thank you for the 50 Euro. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| The TTS is broken, but we are. | |
| Kazumi is filling in as our honorary. | |
| I know they hate that. | |
| We don't want her to be able to do that. | |
| Can you actually do it in a European accent? | |
| Because you donate in Euro, so maybe you could do. | |
| Holding shit. | |
| I don't know how to do a European accent. | |
| Hi, Brian. | |
| No, I can't do that. | |
| No, I don't know how to do it. | |
| Okay. | |
| But I don't know how to do it. | |
| Frank, thank you. | |
| Yeah, Chase is definitely probably more disagreeable than I am, so he definitely pushes buttons a bit more than me. | |
| So yeah, I don't know. | |
| Is Chase your co-host? | |
| Not my co-host, but he's been on a couple shows. | |
| Eric, go ahead, pull up the. | |
| But Frank, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Oh, as far as Pearl, me and Pearl are talking. | |
| She was in the UK. | |
| She's actually, I think she's moving to the U.S. | |
| We will get Pearl on the show eventually. | |
| Next one, Eric. | |
| Yo, Derpington. | |
| Oh, actually, go ahead, Kazumi. | |
| Based on dating site matches, Tinder, I think it was, there is a steep drop-off for men getting matched when going from six feet tall to five foot eleven inches tall. | |
| Go outside. | |
| I swear to God, if you go outside, first of all, Tinder is an app based off of your social appearance. | |
| So also, if I went outside, I really couldn't tell the difference between a guy who was six foot or 5'11. | |
| Past 5'8, they look the same to me. | |
| Yeah, like if I was - first of all, if you're 5'11 and you think it is a big steep drop-off, just say 6'. | |
| I won't be able to tell. | |
| Like, if I met you, I think you're like 6'7. | |
| I don't know how tall you are. | |
| But I just know it's. | |
| The other one. | |
| Derpington, thank you for the super chat. | |
| Really appreciate it. | |
| There should be another. | |
| There's another one there. | |
| There's another one. | |
| Down, down, down. | |
| I'm pretty sure another TTS came in. | |
| Right? | |
| No? | |
| Is that all of them? | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh my God, how much money do you make from a single stream? | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| He's like, enough to pay to do that. | |
| These are my patrons, my deeply appreciated. | |
| Enough to keep the pod going. | |
| So. | |
| oh yeah yo uh dex do you think for the wait let me read that guy because i have a follow-up Which one? | |
| The one that says, bruh, the ones that pay for OnlyFans girls. | |
| Bruh. | |
| But the ones that follow OnlyFans or watch obsessively porn are not getting enough. | |
| Dude, you just paid 20 bucks. | |
| You are a guy that supports the creators you like, just like everyone else. | |
| Okay. | |
| Like, there's no. | |
| That's true. | |
| No, that's true. | |
| Whether it's like a porn or your favorite podcast or Netflix, you are paying money for a creator or a group of creators who fund what they are doing. | |
| I don't think, do you feel like because he's watching this podcast, he just doesn't have anything better to do today? | |
| So he's just watching you stream? | |
| Like, I'm sure he has a social life and it's cool. | |
| The same way people who watch porn also, maybe there are a few extremists who don't get any pussy, but I'm sure they just kind of just buy porn sometimes. | |
| Well, I mean, they are patrons and they support the show. | |
| All right, so I just want to touch on this. | |
| No strings attached. | |
| Thank you for the Canadian 20. | |
| Yeah, I mean, if men were regularly getting laid, there would not be such a demand for pornography, OnlyFans, sex work, and strippers. | |
| I don't think that's true. | |
| I don't necessarily think that's true either. | |
| I think a lot of men in the strip. | |
| If men were regularly, if men were, then why is it that women don't consume these things at the same rate that men do? | |
| I think we're not. | |
| There's a strip club in Santa Barbara. | |
| Do you want to guess if it's for men or for women? | |
| Well, obviously it's. | |
| Why is it obvious? | |
| I'm not. | |
| No, I'm saying it is obvious. | |
| Yeah, like it is. | |
| There's more men in there than there are women. | |
| But that doesn't mean that there aren't any women. | |
| Like in there. | |
| But there's not a demand. | |
| There's not a demand. | |
| I think it's social stigma. | |
| I think it's social stigma because realistically, as a woman, as a girl, even being raised, I was always being told ways to make sure I don't come across as a slut or a whore or use goods. | |
| And I'm sure that if I was raised in an environment that didn't, you know, necessarily enforce those kinds of gender rules, I would be consuming porn at the same rate as like, you know, another guy. | |
| But as a woman, I was raised to be more conservative and to not really partake in that kind of stuff. | |
| So that's probably a reason why. | |
| You know, when I turned 18, I, no, sorry, not 18. | |
| For my 21st birthday, I went to Vegas and I went to a strip club. | |
| And I had so much fun because I was like, wow, like I've never been to a strip club before and I've always wanted to go, blah, blah, blah. | |
| But that's only because I finally found a group of people that were like, hey, it's not weird for you to be a sexual being as a woman. | |
| Because most women, regardless if they have OnlyFans or whatever, are often shamed and treated differently because, you know, because of wanting to be sexual just like men do. | |
| Okay, let's talk about the ultimate form of sex work, which is prostitution. | |
| I've paid for pussy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I went to a brothel. | |
| Kazumi, you're an audience. | |
| Sorry, I don't count. | |
| You're an actor. | |
| I don't count, so I should have just not mentioned it. | |
| It's very illegal where I'm from. | |
| I've recently been thinking about hiring a male escort. | |
| Same here. | |
| I just want to try it. | |
| So just generally speaking, though, of the people in the entire world, or let's, yeah, we could say the entire world, or we can say the United States, of the people that pay for sex, is it men or is it women? | |
| It's probably men, but that's just because women are demonized when they try to be a sexual being. | |
| Yeah, also if you go to not an like, I feel like for men with the hormone difference, it's like it's like, yeah, like it just is what it is. | |
| I'm not sure if it's a good idea. | |
| Yes, there is a biological reality to it. | |
| Yes. | |
| To detestosterone. | |
| Circling back to your point, though, regardless of if more women were approaching men, I don't think that it would affect sex, Shrex work at all. | |
| Because truthfully, people will always want to be sexual beings regardless of if they're in a relationship, if they're single, if they're being approached, whatever. | |
| Like I'm in a relationship. | |
| Does that mean I'm not allowed to watch corn anymore? | |
| No. | |
| Does that mean I'm not allowed to pursue other sexual experiences if I feel like I need it in my partner and I want to come to an agreement about it? | |
| The work is always going to be there because there's always going to be a demand regardless of if men are getting approached by women more or not. | |
| But the point is these industries would not be as prominent as they are if it wasn't for men and men's lack of attention from the opposite sex. | |
| You couldn't say that about anything, Brian. | |
| You could say that about freaking Walmart. | |
| Imagine like back in the day when, okay, let me say something else. | |
| Takeout restaurants, Chinese food. | |
| I, as a person, can learn how to make Chinese food at home and I can cook it myself and not have to go out, blah, blah, blah. | |
| But sometimes it's just more convenient to go out and buy it. | |
| Just because I know how to make it at home or better example, I went to college for fashion. | |
| I graduated with a fashion design. | |
| I've been sewing since I was 10 years old. | |
| I could tell you so much about that shirt that you're wearing right now. | |
| And it wouldn't sound like English to you, right? | |
| I know how to make my own clothes. | |
| Does that mean I make all of my own clothes all the time? | |
| Fuck no I'm not I go to the Okay Okay, let me. | |
| I'm not sure I'm following. | |
| I know how to make my own clothes. | |
| Does that mean I make all of the clothes myself? | |
| No, because sometimes it's much easier to go out and buy those clothes. | |
| So circling back to your point, just because in a world if men were getting approached by women, sometimes you just gotta, sometimes you just gotta let it out. | |
| And that means watching corn or hiring an escort to do that. | |
| It's not going anywhere. | |
| Unrelated? | |
| Oh, sorry. | |
| No, go for it. | |
| I've been to Magic Mike a million times. | |
| And every night it is fucking packed, bro. | |
| It's been Vegas or some shit. | |
| Yeah, it's that male strip show. | |
| Also, I've also been a thunderdown under, and I had to fight for a reservation. | |
| We are. | |
| Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| It's a special thing. | |
| Yeah, it's a special thing. | |
| No, I wish it was in every major city. | |
| I'm sure. | |
| The reason why it's packed out is because there's only so many few male review shows. | |
| What is the point of a business to make money, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| If there was more. | |
| If somebody, okay, there's a strip club in Santa Barbara with female strippers. | |
| If there was a male strip club in Santa Barbara, it would go out of business. | |
| You literally don't know that. | |
| 100% it would go out of business. | |
| There's small children. | |
| I want to go to Strips. | |
| I would go. | |
| There's not a demand for it. | |
| Yes, there is. | |
| I'm sure there are many women in Santa Barbara who would really want to see that because it's not a village, girl, because the amount of guys that we deal with. | |
| Bro, girls don't spend money like that. | |
| Yes, we agree. | |
| We do. | |
| We literally are telling you. | |
| We're telling you that we want to spend money like that. | |
| And you are saying, hold on, hold on. | |
| I just like to argue. | |
| But I'm righteous here. | |
| But you're not. | |
| You literally aren't. | |
| No, there's a lot of people who are. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I'll let you go. | |
| But hold on. | |
| If there was a market for it. | |
| There is. | |
| If there was a market for it, there would be a strip club in Santa Barbara. | |
| There would be a male strip club in Santa Barbara. | |
| There'd be a male strip club in all the cities that there's a female strip club. | |
| The reality. | |
| Tell you what, Kazumi, you're a high earner. | |
| You have the money to invest. | |
| Open a male strip club in Santa Barbara. | |
| Look at the tiny strips. | |
| Open the male strip club. | |
| Put your money where your mouth is. | |
| Wouldn't do it in a location like Santa Barbara. | |
| Because because why? | |
| Because I live in L, because it would fail. | |
| No, because I literally hire a manager, hire someone to manage it here in Santa Barbara. | |
| If you want to see some male strippers here, sure i'll put it in La and it might do okay in La, because La is a major city. | |
| No, it's probably because I just literally live there dude, like that'd be the main reason, like it's. | |
| Like i'm literally telling you that there are women who would pay. | |
| It's packed. | |
| I have to fight for a reservation, and the reason why is because There's only so few male review shows. | |
| Dude, I have also a lot of homegirls who've paid for male escorts. | |
| It's a lot more prevalent. | |
| The demand is not there, Kazumi. | |
| Yeah, I just said it. | |
| Okay, there was. | |
| The demand is there, but it's not as great as a demand as for female performers. | |
| And I think that's what you're saying. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| But you cannot say that. | |
| There is zero demand. | |
| There's probably some women in Santa Barbara. | |
| There is no demand. | |
| When I say there is no demand, I don't mean that there is absolutely zero demand. | |
| I'm saying that the demand is not sufficient enough. | |
| Say that instead. | |
| He's rounding. | |
| Well, what I'm saying is, like, say that instead. | |
| But I am essentially. | |
| But okay, if there's what here, if there's one girl in Santa Barbara that would be willing to go to a male strip club, that is not a sufficient amount of people to make that a profitable business. | |
| Therefore, there is not a demand. | |
| Let me ask you something. | |
| Because for the business to work, there must be a sufficient demand for it to make money. | |
| I want to ask you something, Brian. | |
| I want to ask you something, all right? | |
| So let's say a male strip club did open up in Santa Barbara. | |
| Can you tell me, how long have you been in Santa Barbara? | |
| 94. | |
| Okay, can you tell me a little bit about this town? | |
| You know, like what are like the statistics, like how do people normally act here? | |
| Do people here normally come from religious households? | |
| Do people here come from like traditional households? | |
| Like I want to know what the social life is. | |
| Santa Barbara is a very liberal city. | |
| Very liberal. | |
| I'd say it's a very liberal city. | |
| Okay. | |
| So let's say a male strip club did open and girls go. | |
| It's a college town. | |
| Girls talk. | |
| What if there's a guy who goes and sees all these women here and is like, whoa, I'm going to, why are you here? | |
| Why are you doing this? | |
| What the point I'm trying to get at is men can comfortably be in a strip club setting like that, whereas women normally can't. | |
| Because, again, we are demonized when we want to express ourselves as sexual beings. | |
| We'll get slut shamed. | |
| We'll get questioned. | |
| Whereas, you know, if a guy told me he went to a strip club, it would be like, okay, no big deal. | |
| You went to a strip club. | |
| If I told somebody I went to a strip club, they would be like, why were you at a strip club? | |
| Nobody would say that. | |
| Absolutely they would. | |
| And actually, male sexuality is more demonized in today's day and age than female sexuality. | |
| All right, but aren't we talking about generalities here? | |
| I'm not talking about that. | |
| Aren't we talking about in general? | |
| Haven't we been talking about in general this entire time? | |
| And in general, women are more demonized. | |
| We're literally slut-shamed all the time for wearing a top that shows too much of our boots. | |
| And if we don't know if you saw that recent story, if we so much as even glance at a woman In the gym. | |
| I don't know if you saw that. | |
| Wait, that shit is crazy. | |
| And I think it got out of hand. | |
| But girls will say, oh, some fucking creeper stared at me. | |
| He just looked in my direction. | |
| I think that that's the same thing. | |
| Male sexuality, male sexuality is now being demonized. | |
| And I don't think that's right. | |
| And I want to say, like, I think that that situation got really out of it. | |
| And it's not even sexuality. | |
| It's just some poor guy in the gym who doesn't even consent to being filmed. | |
| It's being blasted on social media for glancing in a girl's direction. | |
| I agree that that is so wrong. | |
| My point is that no gender should be sexualized, sorry, demonized for expressing their sexuality. | |
| And also that entire thing was literally insane and actually so dangerous, because there are women now posting videos of themselves not being able to like, you know, finish their rep, only being able to like, ask men for help, and men will just ignore them, and that is such a dangerous situation and I think that's super. | |
| I think that sucks and I think that's super bad. | |
| But what I'm saying is there is a demand, women are just as sexual as men. | |
| Some I'm not sure I fully agree with that. | |
| There are some guys who aren't really into sex, just like there are some girls who aren't really into sex. | |
| I mean, I think women enjoy, actually can enjoy sex more than men, but I think men have a much stronger desire to have sex than women, generally speaking, because of testosterone. | |
| Okay okay, moving on, let's get through these super chats here. | |
| Kazumi, you've got a lovely voice. | |
| I like the narrator. | |
| She clearly thinks the chat isn't smart enough to understand the word more likely which is used in stats. | |
| Is he talking to me? | |
| I yeah, i'm pretty sure. | |
| Okay girls, one access. | |
| Thank you man, appreciate it. | |
| Girls, a good lock only open. | |
| Oh, my god is. | |
| Did this guy just graduate middle school? | |
| Girls, a good lock only opens with one key. | |
| A bad lock opens up to multiple keys. | |
| Men don't want a bad lock. | |
| Well, i'm a person, not a lock. | |
| Yes, we'll take you for a spin, but we won't take you serious. | |
| Men want traditional women, just like you want traditional men. | |
| I definitely don't know what a traditional man or a woman is, and nor do I have to even follow those, so whatever. | |
| Also in the same regard like, why are you trying to open so many locks in the first place? | |
| If you think that a lock opening up to every key is bad, like what that is so strange? | |
| Well, men and women's sexual strategies are different. | |
| Okay like, men can impregnate three women a day. | |
| A woman can only get pregnant once a year once. | |
| What i'm saying is that there's a double standard. | |
| Like, if you want a woman who has like, a low body count or low sexual experience, then like, why are you out here doing the most and, like you know, freaking everything that you can? | |
| Like I just don't get farting everything yeah like, I just don't understand. | |
| Like if, if you yeah, that's, that's so do you think it's hypocritical that say, for example, a guy who he has a high body count, he would prefer a woman with a low body count. | |
| You think it's hypocritical? | |
| I do think that it's hypocritical and I think it's a little weird. | |
| Okay, do you got what about you? | |
| What do you think about what? | |
| Sorry, do you think it's hypocritical? | |
| Hypocritical if a man has a high body count and wants a woman with a low, Low body count. | |
| Yeah, yes. | |
| Yeah, yes. | |
| Sydney, Kazumi. | |
| I mean, I think whatever you're, whatever, everyone is entitled to their own dating preferences, right? | |
| I think it's silly to place to care about that stuff, but it's also like we just wouldn't date. | |
| You know, it's as simple as that. | |
| Okay, so you believe that there's the double standard, though? | |
| I just think it's a little weird. | |
| That's it. | |
| Because I feel like it's something that men, a lot of men focus so highly on, and I'm just kind of like, well, you're doing the same thing. | |
| So what gives? | |
| So, okay, so, but I guess my rebuttal to the whole thing, like, oh, it's hypocritical if a guy who with a body, excuse me, getting tongue-tied here. | |
| You think it's hypocritical if a guy who has a high body count prefers a woman with a low body count? | |
| I just think it's, okay, everyone is entitled to their own preferences, like Kazumi said, but I just think that's a little weird. | |
| To want a low body count or for a guy with a high body count to want. | |
| For a guy with a high body count to want someone with a low body count. | |
| Hey, if you want somebody with a low body count, then whatever. | |
| That's your preference. | |
| But if you have like a super high one and you're like, oh, I will only date a person with X amount. | |
| First of all, body count doesn't even really matter that much, but for the people that We'll talk about that later. | |
| But for the people that it does, for the people that it does like matter to, if you want someone with a low body count, then why aren't you practicing what you preach? | |
| Can I say something on that? | |
| I think. | |
| Oh, I'm not going to do that. | |
| Well, I'll respond, but make it quick. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was just going to say, I think, and I'm not like for either side, but I kind of saw something that I like. | |
| I think men have sex for a different reason than women. | |
| I think women go for more of a connection. | |
| Not all. | |
| I think women go for more of a connection base versus whereas men go more for just like a pleasure base. | |
| Some of the time, again, not all of the time. | |
| But like, I know that women are more of like emotional and like connection based. | |
| And so I think that's kind of, but that's just something I thought. | |
| So, okay. | |
| Do you think that you shouldn't desire something in someone that you yourself do not possess? | |
| Elaborate. | |
| No. | |
| So a guy who has a high body count, he should not desire something in someone else that he himself does not possess, and that being a low body count. | |
| I think you can desire an opposite effect in your partner. | |
| Well, that's what I'm kind of about to, that's what I'm about to arrive at my point, but I might have stumped you there. | |
| You did. | |
| Honestly, you did. | |
| Because personally, I don't really care too much about body count, so I don't really think about these conversations a lot. | |
| But I think it's okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| I got you. | |
| You did get me. | |
| I got you. | |
| You did get me. | |
| I will rephrase my statement. | |
| A lot of the time when a man is focusing on body count and a high one or a low one, right? | |
| They're like, for instance, that lock example. | |
| Oh, you're used. | |
| Like, no one's going to want you, blah, blah, blah. | |
| And it comes from a place of shaming. | |
| It comes from a place of shaming because there's a difference between a guy saying, oh, I don't want a girl with a low body count and a difference between saying, oh, I don't want to get away from it. | |
| Why are you on me, Eric? | |
| And him saying, like, oh, I want a girl with a low body count because girls with high body counts are sluts and whores and blah, Right? | |
| So if he is coming at it from a respectful point of view, then like power to you, bro. | |
| But the fact of the matter is, is that most of these guys are not coming from a healthy point of view. | |
| And that's where the issue lies. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because as a per first of all, I'm a person, right? | |
| I'm not a lock. | |
| I'm not a cookie. | |
| I'm not whatever freaking analogy you want to use me as. | |
| I'm a person and I am allowed to have my own experiences in life and a lot of those for me have been sexual and they've been so much fun. | |
| And you as a man are allowed to do the exact same thing. | |
| But where the issue comes from is like you as a man, most men are like, oh, you're not allowed to have that because you're used or damaged goods. | |
| That is, so it's really the mentality behind it and not the actual sentiment. | |
| Well, I mean there's a variety of reasons why men think body count matters But just to address the double standard or the hypocrisy thing There are things that people desire in a partner that they themselves do not possess for example I Would say 99% of women if asked if you asked a girl do you want a guy who's funny? | |
| I would say 99% of women would say yeah, I like funny guys. | |
| Are they funny themselves? | |
| Maybe, maybe not. | |
| So there are a variety of things. | |
| Men and women, what we find attractive in the partner, there's not a symmetry. | |
| There's not always symmetry in what we find attractive. | |
| For example, if a woman wants a man who's six feet tall, ought she be six feet tall too? | |
| Right? | |
| I've got some more. | |
| Many women want a charismatic man, yet they may not necessarily be charismatic themselves. | |
| I get what you're saying. | |
| Many women want a guy who's chivalrous, but they don't want, they are not chivalrous themselves. | |
| Many women want a physically strong man, yet they are not physically strong themselves. | |
| So there's an asymmetry in what we want. | |
| So I don't necessarily think that it's actually wrong for even a guy who has a high body count to say, I prefer women with a low body count. | |
| Okay, but because there's asymmetries in what we find. | |
| Okay, but then the opposite can be true. | |
| Like, let's say a woman has a high body count and she prefers a man with a low body count. | |
| That's totally fine. | |
| Yeah, I'm not saying that he can't do that. | |
| I'm just saying I think it's a little weird given the context of which body counts are usually talked about. | |
| Personally, I don't care about body count. | |
| I think it's dumb to think about it. | |
| It doesn't really matter to me. | |
| I don't really keep track of, you know, the people that I have connections with like that. | |
| But I guess I'm talking to the people who do care about it, right? | |
| And again, most of the time, the people who do care about it, it doesn't come from like a healthy place. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's really all I'm saying. | |
| Let's get through these super chats here. | |
| We'll come back to body count. | |
| This is like my participation part. | |
| I'm like the reader. | |
| No, this is. | |
| Did we do this one? | |
| Yeah. | |
| This one? | |
| This. | |
| Oh. | |
| Do this one and then we'll pull up Alvin's. | |
| Ho. | |
| Calling men insecure is in for a reality check when she realizes they only want her recreation purposes. | |
| Brace yourself for a cat lady existence ending up all alone. | |
| The funniest thing is when this just doesn't happen. | |
| The funniest thing is when life just turns out to be fine for all of us. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| You can pull it up, Eric. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| You don't want to be treated like an object, but you objectified yourself by going on OnlyFans. | |
| Can't make this up. | |
| Alvin, just go touch some grass, bro. | |
| Dude, we're all here in the game of social media entertainment. | |
| Yo, Alvin, thank you for the $50 super chat, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let me get the rest. | |
| Okay, we have, we did that one. | |
| We did this one. | |
| This one came through. | |
| this one came through thank you guys for all the go for it The roasters are never hot. | |
| Damn. | |
| I'm just sorry. | |
| That was just such a rude thing to say. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| Go for it. | |
| It doesn't matter if you're not hot or not. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| You did? | |
| Okay. | |
| We got this one. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I think it's the parents' faults for men slash women having a high body, huh? | |
| Having a high body count. | |
| I get younger people want to have fun, but any girl says that she wishes she had a lower body count when she finds the one FOTS. | |
| No, I don't, I know when I found a one I did not wish for a smaller body count. | |
| I was glad I had the experiences I had to give me an educated decision on if this was fun or not. | |
| Can I ask you, this is kind of, I don't know if this is like too prodding, but has anyone here ever got an STD? | |
| I think STDs are a thing that happens when you have a lot of sexual partners. | |
| Well, actually, no, you don't even have to have a lot of sexual partners. | |
| Freudian slip. | |
| You don't need to have sexual partners. | |
| You can. | |
| You can get that shit from a toilet seat. | |
| You could get that shit on the first time having sex. | |
| Yeah, I have a friend who can. | |
| I know, yeah. | |
| I have a friend who can't pull the microphone closer to me. | |
| That's exactly the thing. | |
| You could get an STD the very first time. | |
| You have sex. | |
| It doesn't matter how many times you have sex, how many body counts you have. | |
| It's statistically proven. | |
| But I'm saying, like, it's probability. | |
| It's probability. | |
| I'm just saying, like, wait, let me finish my sentence. | |
| Hold on, let me just, let me just adjust that really quick and then I'll have you go on. | |
| Sydney, can you technically, the first time ever you have sex, get an STD? | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| Just like the first time you have sex, you can also get pregnant. | |
| It's a matter of like safety-wise. | |
| Yes, but we're talking about probability, not possibility. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you could, but if you, okay, who's more likely to get an STD? | |
| Someone who sleeps with someone one time or someone who's slept, who's had sex 10,000 different times? | |
| Obviously depends on safety-wise, but yeah, 10,000 times. | |
| Yes. | |
| Come on, Sydney. | |
| Yes. | |
| Come on. | |
| Go ahead, Kaze. | |
| I mean, obviously, it's going to depend on safety. | |
| If I had raw sex with you, I am way more likely to get an S C D with you who probably doesn't get tested all the time versus me who gets tested every seven to ten days, right? | |
| Because that's my profession. | |
| So I have to get tested frequently. | |
| Even statistically, if you have raw sex with someone one time, you're less likely to get an STD than if you have sex with, if you have sex 10,000 times with a condom. | |
| Women are also, it also takes women a longer time to find out if they have an STD, depending on the STD, versus men. | |
| I would like to know why you brought up STDs. | |
| Well, what was the, I'm trying to find the body count one. | |
| Okay, so like, let's say, okay, well, anyways, we know what you're saying. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| We know what you're trying to say, right? | |
| You're trying to say that if I have a high body count, I am more likely to get an S C D. | |
| Yeah, but I'm also a grown-ass woman, and as I age and I have more sexual experiences, I am simply just going to continually have more sex with people. | |
| And it's my right as a person to explore myself sexually. | |
| Now, do sometimes shit happens? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like, sometimes people will get pregnant. | |
| Sometimes people will get an S C D. | |
| But as long as we are educated on these topics and the stigma is removed from it, we're able to have better conversations on making sure that these issues aren't permanent issues. | |
| Well, I guess, okay, so the reason I bring up STDs is because if a girl were to get herpes, for example, I don't suspect she would be so quick to defend promiscuity or defend having a high body count. | |
| That has nothing to do with it, though. | |
| If you're promiscuous, you're more likely to get an STD. | |
| Okay, but just because a girl has herpes doesn't mean that she's going to tell all the girls in her life to be a nun and not partake in any sexual activity. | |
| It's unfortunate that she has herpes, but that in no way should dictate the way other women in her life live theirs. | |
| I think ultimately the matter, the better conversation is how often does one get tested? | |
| I mean, let me just say, if someone got herpes, it wouldn't matter if I fucked a bunch of guys if I got tested tomorrow and then I was clean, right? | |
| Because literally. | |
| This chair is annoying me so much. | |
| I've been like, no, no, no, not you. | |
| It's just I should have addressed it at the beginning of the past. | |
| I've had way more insane conversations talking to civilian men who don't do porn, asking when was the last time they got tested, and realizing that most of you men don't get tested. | |
| I don't want to fuck a guy with a body count of 10 who has never gotten tested his whole life versus a porn star who got tested seven days ago. | |
| It's more so a matter of how sexually responsible and educated are you? | |
| Like, as a porn star, we have to get tested every 14 days max. | |
| Full panel. | |
| Full panel. | |
| How long does it take full panel? | |
| How long does it take to like for those test results to come back and then like a day? | |
| A day. | |
| Yes. | |
| I got tested today, and I'm getting my results back to the city. | |
| Okay, but can I ask you a question? | |
| I mean, most people are not in the sex work industry. | |
| people engaging in hookup culture and who you don't need to be a sex worker to have a high body count no but even when i was a person that was just a slutty girl in college i still got tested every time i introduced a new partner in my life which is something that really yeah Yeah. | |
| Safe sex, bro. | |
| You don't do that? | |
| Where did you go to college? | |
| I went to, I'm not going to say that. | |
| Well, was it in California? | |
| Yes, I did. | |
| Was it a state school or a UC? | |
| I don't want to say it was on here. | |
| It's irrelevant. | |
| I was a slut, and I've been a slut, but what mattered was that I was a safe and ethical slut. | |
| Are you saying that you don't get tested every time you have a new sexual partner? | |
| Because that's nuts. | |
| But you mean before? | |
| At each instance? | |
| Yes, I've gone on dates with guys before getting tested. | |
| And if I wasn't able to get tested with them before, then I would get tested right after, like the week after. | |
| That should be normal protocol. | |
| You get tested after you have sex. | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, that wouldn't preclude you from contracting an STD, but most, do you think that most people that hook up in each instance that they do hook up are getting STD tests beforehand? | |
| Are you saying that you don't get frequently tested? | |
| I get tested, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. | |
| In general, when it comes to hookup culture. | |
| The more important part, above all, hookup culture is the fact that you are sexually educated enough to know that every time you have sex with someone, you are putting yourself at risk. | |
| So are you taking the right protocols to make sure that you are not keeping yourself safe and others safe? | |
| And the best thing you can do about yourself is to have protected sex and to continually get tested. | |
| Now, maybe you're not a sex worker, and maybe most people in hookup culture do not do that, but they really should. | |
| Exactly. | |
| They should, but we have to live in reality. | |
| Most people are going to be able to do that. | |
| And the reality is that we should. | |
| People in college who are pornography. | |
| UCSB also has a very, very high STD. | |
| Yeah, UCSB is the CSB. | |
| I think we're one of the highest. | |
| UCSB, which is, well, we're here in Santa Barbara, is like one of the number one party schools. | |
| From first-hand experience and from hearing from a lot of people, and it's just kind of almost obvious to me, most people who like will go out to a club or a bar or party, they will spontaneously hook up with someone did not get tested beforehand. | |
| But they should. | |
| They should. | |
| But that's not how it should be. | |
| But you know what? | |
| You know the reason why they don't? | |
| The reason they don't. | |
| The reason why they don't is because they are not sexually educated enough. | |
| There's a stigma around testing. | |
| Yes, there is, because a lot of guys are like, oh, I have to get tested. | |
| But even why? | |
| You don't trust me? | |
| Even you said that you didn't get tested before marriage. | |
| No, I was saying usually I would if it was a plan. | |
| Now, if I met you at a club at a bar, first of all, I would. | |
| You said you were like going through a slut phase, right? | |
| I always, there was no phase. | |
| Your words, not mine. | |
| Not nearly she's saying that she gets tested like really frequently very frequently. | |
| So she speaks. | |
| Okay, but you had girlfriends, right? | |
| Were they getting tested frequently? | |
| Yes, dude. | |
| In college. | |
| Yes. | |
| We are in California in a very liberal state with good sexual education. | |
| If you are not getting tested, I beg you to. | |
| The vast majority of people are not getting regularly tested. | |
| Then you really should. | |
| Like it's like, okay, majority rule, you should start getting tested. | |
| I'm not going to die on this hill. | |
| And the thing is, if you do get an S C D, luckily, we are in a world in America with great ways to solve it or mitigate the risk. | |
| So if you do pop, you should know that it is not to say fine, but it is something that is curable and it is not something that makes you dirty or evil or bad. | |
| It is something that you are able to fix and people shouldn't choose. | |
| That's true. | |
| Herpes, HPV, but the things that I'm talking about, like Donariah and Chlamydia, these are things you should be able to fix. | |
| And even if you did have HIV, you should still be treated with respect and you are not a dirty, evil, bad person. | |
| We should remove the stigma of SCDs. | |
| Well, I mean, sure, but it's going to impact. | |
| When was the last time you got tested? | |
| Hold on. | |
| It's going to impact your life. | |
| It's going to impact your health. | |
| And it's going to, honestly, if you have herpes, I assume you agree that you should disclose to a potential partner. | |
| Okay, you're going to, a lot of people are going to, if you disclose, they're not going to want to pursue anything with you. | |
| And that's fine. | |
| I actually. | |
| Okay, so dating is hard enough as it is, especially for men. | |
| I don't think men should handicap themselves by getting herpes. | |
| Same with women. | |
| They should not say her parents. | |
| So you should probably get tested, dude. | |
| Yeah, just get tested. | |
| I'm not talking about men. | |
| No, yeah, we're talking in general. | |
| Okay, to those men, women, whatever, if you don't want to get an STD, then just practice safe sex. | |
| Like, condoms don't, condoms don't prevent herpes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Get tested. | |
| Require tests from your partner. | |
| Two plus two equals four. | |
| If you don't want an SCD, practice sex as safely as possible. | |
| And that means going to a local clinic or your primary physician and getting tested and asking your sexual partners to do the same. | |
| It is not that hard. | |
| Most people, in civilian life, if they do get an STD test, it's not a full panel test. | |
| People can be asymptomatic and that shit can pop like down the road. | |
| It might not pop right away, but you might be contagious, I guess is the term. | |
| But I feel like the solution isn't not having sex at all or looking for a person who's never had sex. | |
| What? | |
| Like the solution is to just practice safe sex. | |
| If this is something you want to continually explore, you have to just make sure that the people you're playing with are also playing safe games. | |
| That's an adult concept. | |
| And it's something that we should preach and have a more open conversation about. | |
| And this is one of the reasons why body count matters. | |
| Body count doesn't matter when you're literally. | |
| It quite literally matters when it comes to STDs. | |
| It quite literally doesn't. | |
| It quite literally does. | |
| It doesn't matter as much as the fact that you cannot tell me when was the last time you got tested versus the fact that I. | |
| I got tested in December. | |
| And how many people have you fucked since then? | |
| Actually, zero. | |
| or okay cool but the fact of the matter is selective with who I That's absolutely fine. | |
| And you're able to have your own preferences. | |
| I get tested frequently, and I would much rather having sex with someone who has a test a week old versus someone like you who hasn't gotten tested since December because you could easily lie. | |
| You know, not to say you are, but I don't fuck with you. | |
| Someone could, you review their tests? | |
| Yes, I show it on my phone. | |
| Even before porn. | |
| Even before porn, it's a normal thing to do. | |
| Okay, but promiscuity necessarily means that you're at a higher risk of getting an STD. | |
| Not if you practice it safely. | |
| Like, that doesn't equate. | |
| Herpes. | |
| You can get herpes without a condom. | |
| Yeah, you can get herpes off a fork. | |
| Like, what the fuck? | |
| What? | |
| Yeah, you can get it. | |
| Body count has nothing to do with that. | |
| Do you mean safe sex is just wearing a condom? | |
| Because safe sex is not just wearing a condom. | |
| It's making sure that your partner is getting tested. | |
| Like, what the hell? | |
| Like asking them about their sexual history. | |
| And I understand that a lot of men believe, okay, higher body count equals a higher risk for me, but that is not necessarily true, especially if that person has been practicing safe sex. | |
| The CDC? | |
| I told you my body count last time, right? | |
| Remember what it was? | |
| It was like 300-something because that's all I've never gotten an S CD in my life ever. | |
| With all of those bodies, nothing, because the amount of people that I've slept with and have chosen to have a relationship sexually with, that doesn't put me at higher risk. | |
| I've made sure to be safe with all of my sexual partners. | |
| And that is what really matters. | |
| It's not the numbers, it's how you practice. | |
| Okay, the more people you have sex with, you are not going to be able to do that. | |
| I don't think we're going to reach an agreement here. | |
| So maybe let's move on. | |
| Well, I'll just say my point and then we're going to continue. | |
| So it's been proven statistically, the CDC has done studies on this. | |
| The more sexual partners you have, the greater likelihood of getting an STD. | |
| The more people you sleep with, it's almost self-evident to me. | |
| The more partners you have, the more people you sleep with, the greater chance, the greater risk of getting an STD. | |
| The same way, if I'm in a log cabin all by myself and maybe like one person comes and visits me a year, let's say, let's compare this to COVID. | |
| Your chance of getting COVID, if you only encounter one person, is much lower than if you're going out to nightclubs and parties and meeting 100 people a day. | |
| That same thing applies to STDs. | |
| The more sexual partners you have, the more opportunity to get an STD. | |
| Now, you can practice safe sex and you can mitigate the risk, but the risk is still there the more partners that you have. | |
| It's fantastic that you've had as many partners as you've had and you've not caught anything. | |
| Congratulations, you've been safe. | |
| But it is something to consider. | |
| Well, luckily, Brian, you're not fucking, so it's fine. | |
| Just keep your body count as low as possible so you never get anything. | |
| Well, I don't really follow on that one, but let's move on with these soup chats. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Saying men. | |
| Wait, I'm bored about talking about body count, so let's talk about something else. | |
| Derping 10701, $20 Soup Chat, saying men shouldn't care about body count. | |
| Oh, whoa, that's awfully convenient for women with a higher body count. | |
| It is. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The USSR, I guess. | |
| All right, Alvin, this came in. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Derek, yo, thank you, man. | |
| I can't grow to 6'5, but you can control your body count. | |
| Remember, Prince said it best. | |
| P control? | |
| P control? | |
| I'm not sure. | |
| Derek, clarify. | |
| Clarify. | |
| Hello? | |
| Yeah, Tiffany. | |
| These girls dislike probability and generalities so much that if they were told if they jumped off this building, they have a 90% chance to die, but a 10% chance to live, they would still jump. | |
| Generalities help mitigate risk. | |
| Well, I don't live my life by numbers, and I've been fine. | |
| You should just educate yourself further. | |
| Okay, Deval, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Scafone. | |
| I am sorry, Brian. | |
| The girls are making lots of sense. | |
| Why are you being dense about it? | |
| Whoa, rare W. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wow. | |
| Was that Scaphone? | |
| DM me. | |
| All right. | |
| Add to the 300 plus, right? | |
| Hello. | |
| 300 more. | |
| Get the test first. | |
| Yeah, get tested first. | |
| Okay, so we were talking about, I'm trying to remember what it was. | |
| Man, that chair. | |
| Fuck, we should have swapped it out at the start of the show. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| Oh, well. | |
| I thought we had addressed the chair situation, but whatever. | |
| Chat, can you guys hear the chair? | |
| Yo, here, I'll do this. | |
| William Nelson, $30 Soup Chat. | |
| Actually, go for it, Kazumi. | |
| Shame, insult need to be right. | |
| Every time she speaks, it's to insult him because he is triggered. | |
| I don't think I insulted you. | |
| I think I just said don't be afraid. | |
| Because he or she is triggered. | |
| I think he meant she, but okay. | |
| Because, oh. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Speaking of safe, Kazumi, didn't you claim to fuck with 50 men in a single night and call it empowering? | |
| Sounds pretty unsafe to me. | |
| Who is alive and walking? | |
| Me. | |
| So. | |
| Were you at least sore the day after? | |
| No, it's not like they all had Mandingo cocks, bro. | |
| They were very average size. | |
| Oh, all right. | |
| Yo, by the way, Cody, thank you for the membership, man. | |
| Stiffler asks, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten. | |
| Yeah, we can do that. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| We'll start with you, Kazumi. | |
| Actually, wait, sorry. | |
| No. | |
| Sydney, me first. | |
| You do this every time. | |
| Go ahead, Sydney. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I say 10 and I say it every time. | |
| Go crazy. | |
| Don't hit a button. | |
| I'm going to give you the same answer I gave you last time, which is I do not participate. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| 10. | |
| 10? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, Baba. | |
| I mean, I think it depends on where I'm at. | |
| If I'm in a world full of women with the same body type as me, then I feel really good. | |
| But if I feel like I'm around a bunch of Victoria's secret supermodels, then I'll feel a little insecure. | |
| And if I'm around a bunch of other types of people, then I'll feel good. | |
| I think generally, I feel okay. | |
| I think I'm kind of like a five sometimes. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think it fluctuates. | |
| I feel like the way I rate myself is I'm a base average, you know, because I look at myself all the time. | |
| And then when I look at other people, it's either better or worse than like me right now. | |
| But I don't think five as in like F for fail. | |
| I just think like I'm just an average looking woman, just coasting the world. | |
| Rate yourself. | |
| Six. | |
| Six? | |
| No. | |
| 6.9. | |
| Wow. | |
| It's just the truth, I reckon. | |
| Okay, so Sydney. | |
| Come on, tens, both of you. | |
| I love the self-love. | |
| Self-love, yeah, man. | |
| Sometimes. | |
| I don't care what anybody else says about the way that I look. | |
| Like, obviously, everyone cares a little bit about what other people's opinions are of them. | |
| But ultimately, when it comes down to the, like, at the end of the day, like, I'm confident in the way that I look and the way that I present myself. | |
| Don't you think it's hubris, though? | |
| Delusion. | |
| It's like a bit of delusion, though. | |
| Shut up. | |
| No. | |
| I think you're a 10. | |
| They can practice self-love. | |
| Sometimes I feel like a 10. | |
| So what is a 10? | |
| Like, yeah, like you can't. | |
| For me, it's a 10. | |
| I feel like also everyone else has their own opinion of what a 10 is. | |
| Right. | |
| I'm saying 10 because I don't leave any room for opinion from another person. | |
| Like from these people. | |
| I'm not leaving room for opinion because at the end of the day, it's like me. | |
| It's like with myself. | |
| But like the market kind of dictates your rating. | |
| You can't just say, like, for example, I can't just say I'm a 10 and then step into Calvin Klein and say, yo, give me a modeling contract. | |
| I can't do that. | |
| I'm a 10. | |
| I deserve a modeling contract because I believe I'm a 10. | |
| So thus, I would say someone who's a 10 has or could have a modeling contract. | |
| But I feel like it's a mindset. | |
| Like, if I feel like a 10, then that confidence will speak for itself and I can do many different things. | |
| You know, if I feel like a two, whatever the fuck that means, then that insecurity is way louder than however I could look. | |
| But your confidence doesn't undo the fact that there might be a certain symmetry to your face. | |
| There might be a height. | |
| Yeah, I mean, also, like, the people, like, the world is full of different types of people that are beautiful in their own different ways. | |
| Like, of course, there's an industry standard, but I've been with people who've looked all types of ways, and I thought they were all beautiful somehow or some way. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Why did you write yourself a 6.9? | |
| Because that is my, what I believe, a reasonable self-assessment of my physical. | |
| Do you feel like you're shy of saying, oh, I'm an eight or a nine? | |
| Like, you two embarrass me. | |
| You don't want to be cocky. | |
| It's not about being cocky. | |
| Like, I genuinely, like, I've looked at myself in the face. | |
| I know what my face is like. | |
| I know what my potential flaws are. | |
| And I'm like, okay, I'm like a six. | |
| Your potential flaws. | |
| I know, I've got flaws. | |
| I got flaws. | |
| I mean, it's like, if you walk like if you feel like you're a 10, then you'll walk like a 10. | |
| It's not that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Look, there's a difference between confidence and thinking that you're on par with the most beautiful and attractive people in the world. | |
| If I thought I was a 10, like, I'm not as attractive as Brad Pitt was in his youth. | |
| I mean, I'm just not. | |
| It's just a chat. | |
| It's just obviously a lot of people. | |
| But I would never come. | |
| Okay, I've compared myself a lot, right? | |
| Especially as a big girl, it's very easy for me to fall into that mindset. | |
| But it's like you deserve to be happy and confident with the way that you look, and you shouldn't dictate, you shouldn't let society standards dictate that for yourself. | |
| That's literally it. | |
| What Kazumi said stands true. | |
| If you feel like, if you consider yourself a 10, you'll walk like a 10. | |
| If you consider yourself a 4, you'll walk like a 4. | |
| Like, who, like, why would you let anyone else dictate your confidence in what you have to offer? | |
| Confidence is also fucking high. | |
| Me believing I'm a 10 is not going to impact an outsider's view of my physical attractiveness. | |
| Now, I will admit that if you carry yourself in a certain way, if you're smiling a lot and you're, you know, it can make you more appealing and it can to some degree, like, for example, a man or a woman who's more, has a positive disposition, smiles, for example, are generally actually rated more attractive than if they were frowning, for example. | |
| However, that's kind of a very minor thing, whereas like someone who, like, it'll give you a slight boost, but it's not going to take you from average-looking to supermodel. | |
| I mean, I've been around a lot of, first of all, so I see I do porn, and you would maybe assume that every person that does porn is like the sexiest person in the world. | |
| And it's just really not true. | |
| There's so many different types of sexy, you know, and I've seen people like one run walkaways and get booked for things. | |
| And it wasn't because they were quote-unquote conventionally attractive. | |
| They just had their own unique look that was sexy to somebody. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're like, okay. | |
| I need to get up really quick. | |
| Guys, get your last-minute super chats in. | |
| We are going to try to wrap up here pretty soon. | |
| I need to get up momentarily. | |
| Eric, can you pull up all the super chats and we'll have Kazumi read them and you guys don't talk too much shit about me while I get up going. | |
| I'm in like the super chat world. | |
| You're healing it. | |
| Right? | |
| Hear the announcements. | |
| Dude, because I'm just a roaster. | |
| I'm just like, shut up. | |
| Anyways. | |
| Which one do you leave off? | |
| Click and we'll tell you. | |
| Oh, we're definitely past way past that. | |
| Bro is pissing hard. | |
| Way past this. | |
| Dude, wait, could everyone hear me pee when I was peeing? | |
| Oh my god. | |
| I get pee shot. | |
| Not that. | |
| No, no, lower that. | |
| Lower, lower, lower. | |
| There you go. | |
| Yep, keep going. | |
| Lower, lower, lower. | |
| No, I think we almost. | |
| We stopped at that one. | |
| We stopped. | |
| Okay, so it's on Zubu Mafu. | |
| Okay, Brian, you need to, uh, Zubu. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Brian, you need to let these women talk more. | |
| I'm also sad by the comments here. | |
| Y'all need to step up your game and become real man, not tate. | |
| These women suffered to be in the position they are in, so grow up. | |
| You almost got it. | |
| I don't think I really suffered much. | |
| You had it in the first half. | |
| I was like, you almost had it. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Okay, next one. | |
| Surviving Russian Roulette, playing it 100 times doesn't mean the person playing was being safe. | |
| Just lucky. | |
| So Tara obviously has a body count of zero because he doesn't play the game at all. | |
| Okay, next. | |
| Derek. | |
| Body count control, side control. | |
| I mean, control the numbers of men you deal with. | |
| I still don't get it, but he's tipped a lot. | |
| So I guess he really wants to make sure his voice is heard right now. | |
| Okay, go down. | |
| Would love to hear more from Sydney and Michaela. | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| I never shut the fuck up. | |
| So sorry. | |
| I think that's it. | |
| Is that it? | |
| I think that's it. | |
| All right, cool. | |
| Guys, get your last-minute super chats in here. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I wanted to bring it back to something here. | |
| I guess we'll bring it back to body count really quick and then we'll wrap up on this other thing. | |
| So Lava, you said body count doesn't matter. | |
| You said body count doesn't matter. | |
| Sydney, Michaela, your thoughts? | |
| I think this is very, I think it's tough because I've been thinking about this for like the last couple of days now and trying to get like the right answer. | |
| And honestly, I can't really, my conclusion is that I think that it does matter because I personally don't feel like it's anyone's business. | |
| Like that's where my head goes. | |
| Like I don't want to share that number whether it's high or low. | |
| Like no matter what. | |
| Like that's my personal business. | |
| And if I decide to be with somebody sexually and they ask, I will be honest with them. | |
| But that's not something that I'm going to like openly walk around telling people. | |
| She kind of said exactly how I feel, honestly. | |
| That's why like I've never said it on this show and I don't plan to. | |
| There's just why? | |
| Why does it matter? | |
| I thought you said body count. | |
| It does matter because that's why I'm saying it's like it's confusing the way to answer it because it's like it matters because like you know that it matters to other people. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| And they're going to judge you. | |
| But like it also doesn't matter. | |
| I don't think it shouldn't matter. | |
| Do I have that right? | |
| I don't think that a person should be judged on their body count. | |
| And unfortunately, society judges people based on that number, no matter if it's low or high. | |
| Well, I agree with you there that people are judged on their body count if it's low or if it's high. | |
| So Sydney, your take? | |
| Yeah, exactly what she said, honestly. | |
| And I'm also like right now, I'm also interested in doing like I've thought about doing like a year of celibacy to kind of like keep myself on track and like just I'm doing celibacy right now. | |
| Yeah, that's the big I'm interested in, but I agree. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I love that sound. | |
| So you guys are doing a year of celibacy? | |
| Not a year. | |
| No. | |
| I'm a very sexual person. | |
| Like, but I'm not like, I'm not going to give. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like about what? | |
| About the celibacy. | |
| No, I am. | |
| I haven't seen. | |
| When's the last time you had sex? | |
| In a fortnight? | |
| A month. | |
| January 1st. | |
| It was the last time I had sex. | |
| That's not. | |
| I suppose for some people. | |
| And so my goal. | |
| It is. | |
| It's a long time because I was in a relationship. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And we had sex all the time. | |
| And it was like, whenever I wanted to, I could have just have sex. | |
| But now it's not like that. | |
| I'm single and I feel as this person has nothing to do like with any like everyone's different. | |
| But for me, I feel like sex is such a huge energy exchange and I don't want to give my energy away like that to just anyone. | |
| So you're doing a year of celibacy? | |
| I am not doing a year. | |
| Oh. | |
| I am starting off at four months and or three months, I said three months. | |
| And then if it lasts longer, then great. | |
| If I find somebody who like I actually feel deserves, I guess, or like who I want to have sex with, then like I'll break that. | |
| But I'm going three months no matter what. | |
| I just really want to take the time to focus on myself. | |
| And I have some things that I need to work on to become a better person. | |
| So that's what I'm doing. | |
| No strings attached, unless I'm pretty sure we got your super chat. | |
| Yeah, we said it. | |
| Yeah, we talked about it actually for quite a while. | |
| So I don't know if you missed that, but unless we missed a different one, you'll have to let us know if it was the 300K one. | |
| Sydney, you're celibate for how long? | |
| Yeah, no, honestly, I kind of, like I thought about doing like this year of celibacy, but I do like the idea of just being celibate until I do find someone that I want to be with. | |
| I'm not necessarily looking for a relationship right now, but I don't know, like having sex is an intimate thing, and it always kind of leaves me feeling unfulfilled at the end because like there's no like emotional connection. | |
| So I'm kind of just waiting for that emotional connection. | |
| I'm also a simp, so I'll catch feelings real quick. | |
| I mean, I just don't like the feeling, like I am in college, you know, I'm 22. | |
| I don't like the feeling like at UCSB, like everybody is sex, X, sex. | |
| And I don't like the feeling of just like a 15-minute hookup and then they just like dip out the room. | |
| Like that is enjoyable for me. | |
| And I'd rather wait until I can have that like, you know, I don't know. | |
| Not necessarily like a boyfriend, but I'm just kind of figuring it out right now. | |
| Okay, I see. | |
| No strings attached. | |
| I do see your missing super chat here. | |
| It must have been when I went up to go to the bathroom. | |
| I sent a second one. | |
| Yeah, hold on. | |
| I said that. | |
| You read this one? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I believe it's this one. | |
| I think we said this. | |
| I don't think we did. | |
| I don't know. | |
| No, we didn't. | |
| If men all stopped watching corn tomorrow, the whole industry would collapse. | |
| Kazumi, you are bugging if you think they pay because they want to support your art. | |
| Trust me, men would not pay if they were slaying. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Do you have an OnlyFans account? | |
| No, so I don't think you would know. | |
| The thing is, is just to really touch on that quickly. | |
| If men were getting women, they would not be consuming OnlyFans at the rate that they are. | |
| And we already had this discussion. | |
| I know, we already discussed it, but you mentioned it again. | |
| All right, we have Andre Colbin. | |
| I think it's the parents' faults for men, women. | |
| We saw it. | |
| We saw this one. | |
| We did this one. | |
| We did this one, but I also think that the point was skipped over. | |
| You guys went and talked about body count, but you didn't talk about the point he's trying to make is he thinks that it's the parents' fault for men or women having a high body count. | |
| I don't really understand it. | |
| I do. | |
| I mean, when you grow up and you. | |
| We talked about it a little bit, but. | |
| No, go ahead. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| When you have parents or when you have parents that are maybe single parents or they are very much more open to their sexuality than most people are, most parents are, then I feel like it could be different. | |
| Like the child could grow up thinking about sex differently. | |
| I don't think the parents have anything to do with it because I came from a really Catholic household where sex was like literally talking about the devil and I still ended up the way that I am. | |
| So, you know, I don't think the environment that you're raised in has anything to do with it. | |
| Well, but like also, because I get where you're coming, like I understand where you're coming from 100%. | |
| And I also have a friend who was told that, you know, same thing, sex is this, this, and you want to like not have sex with whatever. | |
| And because of that, it was like they were kind of even more tempted, as opposed to being in a, in a family that's neutral on it or doesn't like shame you about it. | |
| And then you grow up and you just have your own opinion on what sex is to you. | |
| Well, that's just it, right? | |
| I think that as parents, well, as children, you know, you, as someone, oh my god, words. | |
| When you are being raised in a household, your parents will obviously project and install you with certain values. | |
| But ultimately, I do think that it is up to you as an individual whether you carry those values with you into adulthood or if you exercise them in your everyday life. | |
| So, you know, maybe somebody comes from a single parent home. | |
| My parents have always been married, never divorced. | |
| You know, different situations. | |
| That's just a value I chose to not live with myself because it felt very like not me. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So I think it really is just up to the individual and how they carry themselves and what values they deem, what values they decide to carry into their life. | |
| Did you did like when you were when would you say you because up to a certain age you like believed everything that your parents said, right? | |
| And so how old do you think that you were when you started to form your own values and opinions on things? | |
| Probably like 14. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then can I ask you when you lost your virginity or when you like started to the most I had ever, I still didn't really do anything like that. | |
| I mostly, my opinions are mostly about like God and how I just really don't believe in God. | |
| But most of the sexual activity that I had has actually been in like the last year or two. | |
| Wow. | |
| Good times. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Good times. | |
| Good times. | |
| Okay, so we need to just touch on a few things here before we wrap up. | |
| So let me get the soup chat. | |
| Yo, Derek, good to see you in the chat, man. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| Control your body count, P control, can't spell it, will block me. | |
| He said psi control P S Y control in the chat earlier. | |
| I still was confused. | |
| I see. | |
| Yo, Derek, thank you for the support menu. | |
| I love you. | |
| You got a killer beard, by the way, Myron. | |
| All right, so I meant to bring this up sooner, but we kind of got into a heated moment there, and we kind of meandered to various topics. | |
| So Kazumi, you mentioned Tate, and you mentioned quite a few buzzwords. | |
| One of the words you mentioned was the patriarchy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so what is your sense of the patriarchy? | |
| What is the patriarchy? | |
| I think it is a system created by men, you know, not necessarily purposefully, but, you know, throughout history, that is meant to necessarily serve you guys and prioritize and give you guys more of a privileged leg up in the world. | |
| I could be butchering it, so if you really want to, we could Google it. | |
| Well, I mean, the common one that I hear is it's a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. | |
| Do you feel like we don't live in one? | |
| Well, I reject the sense of the patriarchy. | |
| I reject that there is a patriarchy. | |
| So you feel like you and I are like equals right now? | |
| In what way are we? | |
| Just in general. | |
| In terms of rights and privileges, I would say we are equals. | |
| In fact, I would say women have certain rights and privileges that men don't. | |
| Like what? | |
| Well, for example, in the court system, women are more likely to receive custody of their children. | |
| We often hear this term systemic, systematic. | |
| The court system throughout this country is a system, and that system oppresses men because men are not awarded custody of their children at similar rates to women. | |
| Men are deprived of their children in this country and in most Western countries, and actually most countries in the world, even. | |
| It's not assumed 50-50 custody. | |
| Would you trade places with me? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like, would you be a woman? | |
| I don't see how that's. | |
| Like, do you feel like my life is easier, so you would want to become me? | |
| I think in some ways men have benefits, and I think in some ways women have benefits. | |
| i'm in my body i'm yeah but i'm saying Would you trade with me? | |
| No, I mean, well, if I wanted to be taken seriously in certain places, I feel like I would like to be a man. | |
| You know, I feel like it's really hard to navigate the world sometimes as a woman because there's always almost always like a sexual intonation with everything I do. | |
| Obviously, I put myself in a position by being a sex worker. | |
| Do we have to do that? | |
| Yes, I just said that. | |
| And then before that, but even before I was a sex worker, I was always sexualized. | |
| Whether I worked at Shake Shack or when I was an office girl or when I was in college or when I was a child, regardless if it was consensual or not, people always exploited that part about me. | |
| So of course, right now I am going to profit off of it because it's my choice, right? | |
| But whether it was my choice or not, that has always been a thing that has happened in my life, and it's something that I'm sure a lot of other women can agree with. | |
| Would you prefer it that you were not sexualized the way you are? | |
| Because at this point, I monetize off of it, right? | |
| So I enjoy it now. | |
| But there was a period in my life where I did not enjoy it because I had different goals and I wanted to do different things. | |
| But can I also? | |
| I'll let you come in in just a sec. | |
| So you object to the sexualization. | |
| However, if we were to do away with this sort of one in the sense that women get this and men really don't, you would actually be out of a career right now. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| I'm saying, well, you know, there's a difference between choice, right? | |
| So I am choosing to put myself, make myself a sex worker and become an object of sexual desire. | |
| When it was not my choice and that was not my job, then I didn't want to do that. | |
| It is now. | |
| So now I make my, so yeah, it is my life. | |
| But let's say if I had a different, if I had different goals and I wanted to do different things, like for example, what she said, you know, she wants to get into acting and I don't necessarily always want to be sexualized, despite the fact that I am a woman, then honestly, maybe being a man would be easier. | |
| So that way I could navigate things without having to worry about the fact that sometimes my opportunities come to me based off the fact off of my own fuckability. | |
| And actually, maybe I just want to do things based off of my skill set. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like maybe I would want to be a man for certain reasons. | |
| Okay, so I see where you're going and I don't disagree with you that women tend to be more sexualized than men are. | |
| I think men to some degree are sexualized also and I think men are, women are viewed as sex objects and men are viewed as success objects. | |
| And I know some of you disagreed there. | |
| What do you mean by sex, sex? | |
| Well, you've heard this term? | |
| You've heard this term sex object, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| And women will say, well, we're viewed as sex objects. | |
| Perhaps that's true. | |
| But it's also true that men are viewed as success objects. | |
| I feel like both of those go both ways. | |
| Like, men can be seen as sex objects too. | |
| Yes, they can. | |
| But I think that women can also be judged on how successful they are. | |
| It's well, yes, but it has a greater impact on men in terms of your success. | |
| Does it? | |
| I think if you look at a terms of your ability to attract a mate. | |
| Do you think a guy's primary concern with you is how much money you make? | |
| Do you think that's most men's primary thing they look for in a partner? | |
| Yes. | |
| Is how much money a girl makes. | |
| I don't want to stay too long on that because I want to bring it back to the patriarchy. | |
| I do want to try to... | |
| First of all, I think there are things that may... | |
| There are parts of our society where I guess it's easier to navigate as a man and easier to navigate as a female. | |
| Now, if we look at across the board. | |
| We're fine. | |
| There's a glitch. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| Or if we look across the board and look at world leaders and people who are in positions of power, are they men or women? | |
| Generally speaking, I think there are more politicians and more CEOs who are men. | |
| So who are the people that make decisions? | |
| Who are the people that make decisions? | |
| Are they men or already women? | |
| Well, if there are more men. | |
| Are they men or are they women? | |
| If there are more men in power, then yes, they're men. | |
| Yes, so I do feel like we are in a systemic place where most decisions are placed by men. | |
| And obviously, I feel like they are usually favoring men. | |
| You can agree or disagree, but if there are fine. | |
| But if there was more women in power, then I'm sure there would be different decisions being made. | |
| If we talk about, first of all, our rights as women and our bodies, then yeah, I do feel like there are many multitudes of reasons where I feel like men are able to get into positions of power easier and are able to make decisions that affect all of us, men and women and in between. | |
| Okay, so you touched on a lot of things there. | |
| You talked about rights, women's rights, when it comes to right. | |
| I'm assuming you're talking about abortion. | |
| There are more men in the higher positions of power. | |
| Politicians, CEOs. | |
| And entertainment. | |
| Well, I suppose it depends which form of entertainment. | |
| Yeah, but most mainstream media is controlled by men. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| If men are at the top of the pyramid, right? | |
| The patriarchy posits that it's a society built by men for men. | |
| I agree with the first part. | |
| Society certainly was built by men, but it wasn't for the benefit of men. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| There's not some conspiracy. | |
| There's not some cabal of men that got together that have all the power and said, we want to empower our gender. | |
| Powerful people want to empower themselves. | |
| They want to empower powerful people. | |
| People with power want to continue having power. | |
| It's not about their gender. | |
| I think if we look historically at the fact that, for example, women over a century ago were finally given the ability to vote, right? | |
| If we look at historically, women historically have not been able to create the roots of being able to, I hate that, Sharif. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I like lost myself. | |
| I know. | |
| We should have swapped it. | |
| That just made me combust my point. | |
| What was I saying? | |
| If women were able to, let's say, vote the whole time, right? | |
| And they were able to have the same opportunities as men 300, 400 years ago, like for example, when the U.S. was founded. | |
| 400 years ago. | |
| No, I'm just saying like an arbitrary number of years ago, right? | |
| Like let's say all parts of all governments in all parts of the world were like able to give women this exact same opportunities to make decisions for everyone else as men are, we would be in a completely different place. | |
| Women are only recently able to do many things the same thing as men. | |
| How long has civilization been around? | |
| A long time, dude. | |
| Thousands of years. | |
| Yes. | |
| How long have we had democracy? | |
| In this country? | |
| Sure. | |
| Quite recently in the grand scheme of things. | |
| Okay. | |
| And who has made choices for most of history? | |
| Men or women? | |
| Men have made the majority of choices. | |
| But it's not, they didn't make the choices for men. | |
| By the way, there have been queens who are more. | |
| Of course, of course. | |
| But who is a majority? | |
| Since we're talking about generalities, we're talking about men. | |
| Men, but it doesn't mean that they have somehow... | |
| And who do people... | |
| Hold on, let me finish. | |
| It doesn't mean just because men were in power doesn't mean that they oppressed women. | |
| It doesn't mean that they made laws to benefit men at the expense of women. | |
| So why weren't women able to vote for such a long time? | |
| I'll tell you why. | |
| First of all, voting is a very new thing. | |
| But why weren't they able to vote at the same time as you? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Before there was voting, it was tyrants and kings and monarchs and dictators. | |
| So voting is a very new phenomenon. | |
| Okay, but I think you're like pretending to be dense about democracy. | |
| I'm not being dense. | |
| No, it's all men. | |
| It's not a divorce, right? | |
| And regardless, mostly men. | |
| How long do you think all men have had the right to vote? | |
| What I mean by the menu. | |
| I think it was when there were kings. | |
| sorry it's just so late and honestly this is such a this conversation is like you understand what i'm saying And I'm pretty sure they understand what I'm saying. | |
| It's really clear that for most of history, men have had power. | |
| And men, of course, have had the ability to really benefit people that were just like them, which are usually utter men. | |
| Men had families and wives and daughters. | |
| Was it always on love? | |
| You said earlier that that is a new concept. | |
| That's kind of irrelevant. | |
| It is absolutely irrelevant because this is focused on power. | |
| You said men have power. | |
| What percentage of men had power? | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| You think all men had power. | |
| That is not what I said. | |
| You said men had power. | |
| Which men? | |
| Generally speaking, right, most men had power, right? | |
| No, A very small minority of men throughout all human history had power. | |
| Yes, and they were men. | |
| They were all men. | |
| Yes, they happened to be men, but they didn't set up society for the benefit of men. | |
| We're not saying that they purposely went out of their way to create a society where women are in a position to fail. | |
| You're right. | |
| The powerful only aim to make themselves more powerful. | |
| And the fact of the matter is, is that it was mostly men. | |
| It's not really like they were making decisions with women in mind because there were no women around. | |
| It's literally that easy. | |
| You mentioned voting. | |
| So for the vast majority of human history, nobody had the right to vote. | |
| Did anybody? | |
| A very small percentage. | |
| During the ancient Greek and Roman history, people were voting and they were men. | |
| Are you talking about like the Senate and the Congress? | |
| Yeah, like, it doesn't, okay, voting, whatever the fuck. | |
| Men decided when women could vote. | |
| I will tell you. | |
| Because women fought for the rights to do that. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| If men wanted to hold power and men had all the power, then why would they have allowed women the right to vote? | |
| It was men that granted women the right to vote. | |
| Because it was the right thing to do. | |
| Now. | |
| Do you hear yourself, bro? | |
| Like, I just say it was the right thing to do to give women the right time. | |
| Of course I hear myself. | |
| But before that, men granted women the power to vote. | |
| Because men were in power. | |
| We just proved our point. | |
| I don't think you realize how different society was 100, 200 years ago. | |
| It was very different. | |
| But speaking on the right to vote, so Eric, if you can find in the infographics chart, there's a voting one. | |
| So the reason that men widely got the right to vote before. | |
| Who gave men the right to vote? | |
| Huh? | |
| Who gave men the right to vote? | |
| Who gave men the right to vote? | |
| Let me finish my point. | |
| So men got the right to vote before women because men were subject to military conscription. | |
| Men, if you elected a representative to represent you in the government, that representative could then vote to send you to war. | |
| Men being the exclusive, let's say, victims of forced military conscription ought to have more of a right and a say. | |
| And men got a privilege, and that privilege came with a corresponding responsibility. | |
| That corresponding responsibility was, you have to go to France and die in the trenches. | |
| You have to go get trench foot. | |
| You have to go get chemical gassed by the Germans. | |
| That was the corresponding responsibility. | |
| That's how men got the right to vote before women. | |
| There were women out there too. | |
| There were women in World War I. Weren't there? | |
| You think there were female soldiers in World War I? | |
| I think that there were female workers aiding the military during war. | |
| Were there women in the trenches in France? | |
| Honestly, probably. | |
| Maybe they cut their hair, blended in. | |
| Who knows, bro? | |
| What I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that women were still a part of that, still a part of that process. | |
| Even if they weren't out there fighting, which they could have been, they could have been out there fighting, but they were oftentimes not. | |
| They were still a part of that system. | |
| They were still out there. | |
| They were still putting their lives at risk. | |
| In World War I? | |
| Do you think that there were women in Ardennes, the Ardennes Forest? | |
| Also, Brian. | |
| Gallipoli. | |
| I will. | |
| Sinai, Suez. | |
| It is quite late. | |
| We're going to wrap soon. | |
| Let's finish up this point and then we're going to wrap. | |
| So, okay, there were almost, besides there might have been like a very small Russian contingent of female soldiers. | |
| I'm not even sure if that's the case. | |
| It might have been like a thousand women in Russia. | |
| There were no women in the trenches. | |
| And why was that? | |
| But that could have been different. | |
| There's probably a universe where there were women who were soldiers. | |
| Wait, a universe where there were? | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Are you talking about the multiverse? | |
| I don't know what we're talking about. | |
| Women were not in the trenches in World War I. | |
| Yeah, but they could have been. | |
| Okay, do you know when World War I occurred? | |
| No. | |
| Okay, 1914 to 1918 is when World War I occurred. | |
| Do you know what happened in 1918? | |
| What happened? | |
| And then in 1920. | |
| Women's suffrage occurred conveniently after World War I. Women secured the right to vote after one of the deadliest wars that had ever occurred in human history. | |
| And women were able to secure the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility because women, still to this day, are not subject to forced military conscription in the world. | |
| Doesn't the women who stay back home make up the majority of the workforce, causing the economy to still continue even though the men were away? | |
| Women step up. | |
| Women absolutely contributed to the war effort. | |
| However, their contribution pales in comparison to the sacrifices that men made on the front. | |
| I don't think that men died. | |
| Men were taken. | |
| So you're saying that a bunch of women had to have also died in order to have been treated with the same respect as men. | |
| I don't think it's great that all those, you know, all those men died and like, you know, all that stuff. | |
| But what I'm saying is, like, it doesn't, like, I don't really understand. | |
| I don't think, I don't understand what the point that you're trying to get across because the reality is really simple and the generality is also very simple. | |
| Men have had most of the power and women have had to fight for it. | |
| And it's really that simple. | |
| And that's really why the patriarchy exists. | |
| It's not because men are malicious towards women and wanted to put us down. | |
| That's just how it played out. | |
| That's just how it is. | |
| And where it ended up. | |
| Okay, but we were talking about the right to vote. | |
| And the way that men got the right to vote was because they were a part of the military and we've heard you. | |
| Because men were subject to military conscription. | |
| Yes. | |
| So that's why that inequality existed. | |
| Women were granted the right to vote conveniently after one of the most brutal wars that humanity has ever seen. | |
| However, women were able to secure the vote without the corresponding responsibility. | |
| Women to this day in 2023 are not subject to military conscription in the USA. | |
| They are not subject to the draft. | |
| Really? | |
| I thought that women were a part of the draft in 2019 or like 2020. | |
| I thought that happened recently. | |
| Women can join the military, but if a war were to break out, women would not be subject to the draft. | |
| Because we have to produce. | |
| Like, we are the ones that can bear children. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, then. | |
| Well, then, I guess that's just that. | |
| Like, that's just how the cards played out, then, I guess. | |
| So, I want to, oh, shit. | |
| Has that been going off this whole time? | |
| Eric, can you go into, and I do need to pull up that infographics tab. | |
| What's that? | |
| What's up? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Eric, just in the infographic. | |
| Actually, fuck, I don't know if it's in the documents. | |
| Oh, what do you, oh, shit, you're going to have to, can you fix that? | |
| Put it on a display. | |
| Yeah, put it on the other one. | |
| Shit, I'm trying to find it. | |
| I don't know if I can find it. | |
| Is it in studies? | |
| Brian, I am going to head out, soon. | |
| Yeah, we're going to wrap here soon. | |
| Okay, it's 1120. | |
| Yeah, yeah, we're going to wrap. | |
| So, oh, this is the chart I was going to show you. | |
| So, this is in the UK. | |
| So, not the U.S., but the U.S. is pretty similar to this. | |
| So, if you look at the bottom there, men and women, men is the blue, women is the pink. | |
| So, in the 1600s to the 1700s, men, a very small percentage of men, did have the vote. | |
| Very small percentage. | |
| And then, as you see, it kind of gets into the 1800s, a bit more men have the right to vote. | |
| Still, women don't, right? | |
| Sure. | |
| And then, in the early 1900s, that's when it just totally equalizes, and both men and there's equality. | |
| So, over the course of history, both men and women were oppressed. | |
| Both men and women did not have the right to vote. | |
| The reason men got the right to vote is because, once again, is because we were subject to military conscription. | |
| And we are subject to military conscription to this day. | |
| I'd like to show you guys something here. | |
| Maybe, Eric, if you can hold it here, we'll put it right here so the girls can see. | |
| Let me know. | |
| Was it men of 25 years or men in 25 years? | |
| Okay. | |
| I'll read it. | |
| So, men 18 to 25 years. | |
| You can handle this. | |
| So, this here is a draft registration form. | |
| And on the front, you see it says men 18 to 25 years old. | |
| Only men are subject to that. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, it was men that decided that. | |
| So. | |
| There are women, there are women in Congress. | |
| Who's the majority? | |
| Men. | |
| It kind of does. | |
| It doesn't matter because that's a small minority of men that have power and women who have power. | |
| But the exception doesn't make the rule right. | |
| So it's the majority men. | |
| It's generally men who have this power. | |
| And you're almost victim blaming now. | |
| It doesn't matter that it's other people. | |
| You're victim blaming. | |
| I'm saying that the because men are oppressed in this country. | |
| You never disagree. | |
| I've just provided you a systematic. | |
| Men oppress men. | |
| I will not disagree with you, but you also can't, like, I will not disagree with you, but women are also oppressed. | |
| Like, I don't understand the point here. | |
| The system is flawed, and it truly doesn't benefit anyone other than like the top 1% people of the world. | |
| So, like, what? | |
| Every single man. | |
| Okay. | |
| The government agency that controls the draft registration is called the Selective Service System. | |
| It's a literal, it's literally a system. | |
| Add women on the draft, bro. | |
| Do it. | |
| Why isn't that happening then? | |
| Like, I don't see. | |
| You don't see feminists in the street protesting for women to be drafted. | |
| I don't see a lot of men protesting in the street against the overturn of Roe versus Wade. | |
| Like, what? | |
| Well, men don't have any reproductive rights to begin with. | |
| Okay, but we are women and you interact with us every single day. | |
| So why do our bodies not matter? | |
| But that's like a whole separate question. | |
| Yeah, we won't. | |
| That's like a whole rover. | |
| And I'm just saying, like, okay, then add women to the draft, bro. | |
| But, like, we as civilian people do not have that power because that power is ultimately held by people in a certain group. | |
| And, you know, if more people were like, okay, like, let's add women to the draft, like, then do that. | |
| I don't, like, I don't understand the point trying to be made here. | |
| The system is flawed and works for no one except for a select group of people, and that's facts, whether you're a man or a woman. | |
| Well, the only reason I bring it up is because you guys used women's inability at a period of time in history that they weren't able to vote. | |
| And I was trying to explain to you why men got that privilege before women did. | |
| However, women were able to secure the privilege of voting without the corresponding responsibility and duty, which men to this day still have. | |
| Yeah, so you're agreeing that there is an inequality there. | |
| Regardless of what it is, there is an inequality there. | |
| Towards men to this day. | |
| Inequality towards both genders, bro. | |
| I mean, honestly, if women would have been subject to the draft in 1914, I don't suspect a lot of them would have been vying for the right to vote in 1914. | |
| Well, we don't know how that didn't happen in 1916. | |
| Well, it's a hypothetical. | |
| It's a hypothetical situation. | |
| Do you think that there are more women nowadays that, like, how do I put this? | |
| Like, for instance, that you guys are speaking out, like, sharing your views about feminism and voting and all the things. | |
| But there are plenty of women that don't want that right, that don't, that think that, that still think in those, like, you know, what the mom, the woman should stay home and be the wife and cook and clean and take care of the kids. | |
| Like, there are those, that's, there, those people still exist. | |
| Sure. | |
| And they just don't have, they choose not to speak because that isn't. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| Also, I don't mean to interrupt your phone, but it's about to be 11:30. | |
| Yeah, no, I'm planning on wrapping. | |
| Let me do these last two super chats and then we'll wrap. | |
| Yo, strings. | |
| Kazumi, do you got these? | |
| You got these, Kazumi. | |
| Anyway, men should stop watching corn and do like Kazumi said: all stream, touch grass. | |
| Huh? | |
| All stream touch grass. | |
| But no lie, it is sad that we live in a world where a very smart woman like Kazumi decides to do corn. | |
| Okay, kind of complimented you. | |
| It's a blessing I do corn for you guys, okay? | |
| Michaela is wifey material. | |
| There you go, Mika. | |
| All right, Donovan Fletcher. | |
| Men and women have struggled through immensely difficult obstacles throughout history to bring about comfort of modern society. | |
| Men died, women provided. | |
| It was a team effort. | |
| I would say we all died and we all provided. | |
| I think, yeah, I mean, just really quick to just address that. | |
| I think both men and women have each, we've each had our own struggles and difficulties. | |
| And I think trying to view the relationship between men and women as oppressor and oppressed, I just think men and women fundamentally throughout all of history have cooperated with each other. | |
| Life was certainly in the past a very difficult thing. | |
| We take some of the modern comforts that we have today for granted. | |
| And I think men and women fundamentally cooperated throughout history. | |
| And I think it's an unfortunate view that we've basically pitted the sexes against each other by purporting that men as a class have oppressed women as a class. | |
| And I think it teaches women to have contempt for men. | |
| And it's no surprise. | |
| Well, anyways, I'll get these last two super chats. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do you want to get this one? | |
| Andrew Tate is about to. | |
| Is the no streams attached like two puppets like just talking? | |
| That's kind of cute. | |
| Andrew Tate is about to delete himself. | |
| Like the girl said, he changed his will to give money to men, falsely accused of R. | |
| This is very dangerous for women because the Tate fans will blame feminism. | |
| None of these words are in the Bible. | |
| I don't know what the hell that means. | |
| Yo, Donnie Jepp, thank you for the membership. | |
| Okay, I'm going to wrap. | |
| Anyone last words? | |
| Last thoughts? | |
| Otherwise, I'm going to. | |
| That's it. | |
| My OF is $3. | |
| Hi there. | |
| Yo, guys, show them some love. | |
| You know, we definitely went late. | |
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| Nobody's going to Vedmo. | |
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| Eric, why are you pulling this up? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
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| Shout out to Chaz. | |
| Thank you, men. | |
| Thank you to the wonderful panel. | |
| Thank you, guys. | |
| I know we had a couple heathen moments there, but I thought it was a fun little debate there. | |
| And yeah, thank you guys for your patience there while we did go a little bit late. | |
| And thank you all for coming. | |
| And guys, we will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific. | |
| Be sure to tune in. | |
| Anyways, guys, we will see you next time. | |
| Good night, guys. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Wait. | |
| Body count? | |
| What's our body count? | |
| Body count. | |
| What's your body count? | |
| Kazumi, Kazumi, what's your body count? | |
| Good night. | |
| All right, see you guys. |