Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California.
Every Tuesday and Thursday, we're going to be switching to Sunday, Tuesday here very soon at 7 p.m. Pacific.
I am your host, Brian Atlas.
I'm joined by my co-host Kiki.
She's a bit shy.
A few quick announcements before the show begins.
First off, hope you all had a good holiday new year, guys.
Chat, I gained about 10 pounds over the break stress eating.
So can you guys spam Pudgy Brian in the chat?
So yeah, by the way, not sure if you guys heard, but Santa Barbara was flooded.
Major rainfall, super flooded.
So, by the way, is there a bit of a lag?
Do you see that, Eric?
Or is that just on our end?
Guys, how's the frame rate look in chat?
Let us know how the frame rate is.
Anyways, yeah, Sanbar was flooded, so some people were late.
We had some delays and cancellations, so I had to hustle to get some new people on.
But anyways, so thank you for your patience there, guys, with the late start of the show.
By the way, guys, we're on the road to big milestones.
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Eric, can you pull up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you show them the oh, unfortunately, okay, just go to the next one.
That's fine.
Oh, yeah, actually, the joint.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you for reminding me.
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What's going on, Eric?
You done.
What?
Pull up OBS.
Sorry, guys.
Can we get some F's in the chat for Eric?
By the way, we got to talk about the flask that you lost me.
Okay.
So Eric's going to walk out on us.
Watch out.
Watch out.
But yeah, guys, you can link your Amazon Prime to a Twitch account.
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And like I already mentioned, we have a Clips channel that is blowing up right now.
If you want to be on the show, Eric, can you move it to?
Yeah, thank you.
If you want to be on the show or help the show, DM at whatever on Instagram, chat mods, timestamps, studio hand.
I'm looking for a talent coordinator.
I will pay.
I'm trying to hire a talent coordinator because we need assistance in that department.
So DM me at whatever on Instagram.
And yeah, if you're interested in joining the team.
So, by the way, can we get some Ws in the chat for top producer Eric?
He lost my flask on a, where were you?
I was in Mammoth.
He was in Mammoth snowboarding.
And I'll tell the story another time.
But anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
Go ahead.
Hello.
I'm your favorite senpai.
I'm 20.
I don't work.
And I go to SBCC.
What's your name?
Your favorite sampai.
That's not your name.
I'm Senpai.
Come on.
What's the name?
Kat.
There we go.
That works.
Hi, I'm Kitty.
I'm 26, and I model.
Okay, I'm Sarah.
I'm 18, and I'm actually from Germany.
So I'm a gap year student, study abroad on SBCC.
And yeah, I don't really have a major therefore.
So like, I'm just trying myself out.
Hi, I'm Jennifer Akemi.
I'm 30, and I am a marketer research manager.
Okay.
Hi, I'm Mila.
I'm 18 years old as well, and I'm also an exchange student, actually.
So I go to SBCC, don't really have a major or anything.
I'm Maddie, I'm 19, and I work at a smoothie place.
So guys, Tristan, Yazomi, I'm 22, and I'm a storm manager.
Okay, rock and roll.
By the way, we have a couple people in the house that are not from the U.S., right?
So you're from Brazil, right?
Both of you are from Brazil.
Yeah, we are from Brazil.
Okay, can we get some Brazilian flags in the chat for the two Brazilian girls?
Okay, and then you're from Germany, and then you are?
I'm from the Netherlands.
Ah.
Amsterdam's my favorite city, by the way.
I've been to the Netherlands three times.
I mean, I like Amsterdam.
I just don't like the rest of the Netherlands.
What part of where are you from?
I'm from a very small town, but it's like in between Rotterdam and The Hague.
I'm not sure if you know them.
I know The Hague.
That's where they prosecute war criminals.
Something like that, right?
Yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
And so you two are Brazilian.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm curious, right?
Because you're both Asian.
So in the U.S., you'd be called if you're Asian and American, you're Asian American.
So are you guys Asian Brazilian?
Yes.
Yes.
But in Brazil, we're still Brazilians.
Well, yeah.
I mean, you're still American if you're.
Anyways, cool.
Okay.
I was curious about that.
If there was a similar term as, because we have here Asian American.
So I was curious.
Yeah, like in Brazil, we just say Brazilian because Brazilian is not a race.
So basically, if you're born in Brazil, you're Brazilian.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Cool.
So guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
Show them some love.
Give them a follow.
Especially, oh, by the way, Eric, can you pull up the Just to show people how bad the storm was, can you pull up the two storm photos?
Do the underpass one first.
And I bring this up because the two Brazilian girls drove all the way from Los Angeles.
It was flooded as fuck in Santa Barbara.
This is in Santa Barbara.
That's a car that is fucked.
And then, and then pull up the other one.
It's a boat.
Oh, no, that's.
Yeah, just there's this crazy one.
It's coming up in a sec.
But yeah, they drove all the way from Los Angeles.
They almost couldn't make it because just as we're coming, the highway opens back up.
How the hell did you guys get out here?
That's crazy.
Don't play it.
Don't play it.
Yeah, so yeah, guys, this is Santa Barbara.
Look at how, I mean, the cars are totaled as far as I'm concerned, but that's a dude in the kayak.
That's a street, by the way.
That's not a river.
So thank you guys for making it.
Keep mine.
People freak out when it drizzles here.
Yeah, so this is uncharacteristic.
So anyways, so we're going to go around the table once more.
Guys, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
And that includes seeking arrangements.
Go ahead.
I'm celibate, which is single.
Longest relationship.
Stop the cap.
Stop the cap.
What does that mean?
You're celibate?
Yes, I am.
Hello?
Okay, yeah.
What's with it?
Yeah, what's with a nun costume?
What?
I'm a woman of God.
Since when?
When did that start up?
Because...
Since I just...
He spoke through me.
There had to have been a moment where you were just like, okay, like, maybe I need to be holy now.
What happened?
I'll tell you the story.
I was painting that board, and then God entered my body, and I completed it, and so me and God made that together.
Were you on shrooms?
No.
No?
What's going on?
No, what is drugs?
He entered your body.
Yeah, just like the Virgin Mary.
Are you familiar with that story?
I'm familiar with it.
That's just interesting.
You were making that specific board when you decided to just be celibate and be holy.
No, that's just when God entered me.
Okay.
Yes.
Hold on.
Before I have everyone continue with this, let me get these super chats really quick.
Hold on, guys.
By the way, guys, all super chats will be displayed in stream overlay.
I will read answer super chats.
$10 and up.
Yo, we got Zorro Slost11 with the $10 Super Chat.
At what age, Jesus.
Actually, can you read this?
Because I can't parse this at all.
Into the mic?
Can you read it out loud instead of whispering?
Okay, that.
That was helpful.
Okay, at what age you get married, start family.
If you knew dad, you lose 90% of your eggs by 30-35.
And the saddest demo of people in DeWest is 42-plus-year-old women making 50K a year, no kids, family.
A quarter of women take antidepressants.
Okay, so at what age would you get married, start a family?
We'll go around.
Actually.
I'm so confused.
This is all over the place.
That was like three questions in one thing.
You know what?
Hold on.
Facts.
I'll get right back to the super chats, but I do want everyone.
This is a cool profile picture, though.
We'll get to it in a sec.
Really quick, I do want everyone.
I'll get back to that super chat and I'll get the rest of them.
I see the big ones.
Flan Life.
Thank you for the big 200 Canadian dollar super chat.
I'll get to it right after this.
We'll go around the table.
I should finish that off first.
Sorry, guys, a little rusty here.
It's been a month.
Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
Did you can you actually answer the actual question?
Yeah.
So my longest relationship was two years.
Okay, woman of God.
Okay.
Yeah, it was a beautiful relationship, but it ended, and I can still appreciate the beauty in it.
It was a good relationship.
Nice.
And I still wish the best for him.
Have you been on seeking arrangements?
No, I have not.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm single.
And my longest relationship was two and a half years.
And I'm not in dating apps.
Okay.
Ever been on seeking arrangements?
No.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, I'm single too.
I've never been into a relationship, and I'm technically on Tinder, but like I don't really do much with it, but like, yeah.
Wait, so you've never been in a relationship?
No.
But you're on Tinder.
So what are you seeking on Tinder?
Tinder asked me that several times and I don't know.
To be honest, I just want to get to know a few people, but obviously Tinder is more about something else.
Okay, all right.
At least you stood up about it.
Yeah, because usually if you haven't been in a relationship, it's like it's not obviously not something you're looking for now, right?
Yeah, yeah, sadly not.
Like I'm not why I've never been in a relationship.
Actually, I never like, I've never found anybody who like I would be with.
I had like something, you know.
What is the longest consecutive period of time that you've continued to see somebody?
Because maybe you haven't had a boyfriend, but maybe you saw a guy for three weeks, four weeks, something like that.
Two months.
Two months.
Okay, all right.
What about you?
I'm divorced.
My longest relationship is five years, and I'm on Bumbo, Hinge, and Maria.
Ooh, okay.
I just love testing the apps.
It's just like.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How long were you married for?
Two years and then a half.
Two and a half years.
Okay.
And when were you divorced?
How recently?
Yeah, we separated last December and we finally got the papers in June.
Okay.
How long have you been married?
Two years and a half.
Two years and a half?
Yeah.
Sorry, remind me, how old are you again?
30.
30?
Okay.
You're doing a lot of math.
Like trying to calculate in my head.
I can see.
Okay.
So I'm actually in a relationship.
It's my only relationship ever and my longest as well because we've been together for four years.
We did break up like twice, but we're going strong right now.
So that's nice.
Woo!
Okay.
I'm single.
I've never had a relationship before.
I'm.
Yeah.
I'm on Tinder.
I'm on seeking.
You're on seeking?
Have you?
I haven't met anyone.
They're kind of weird.
Have you gotten any money?
Yeah.
For what?
For doing God's money.
Into the mic.
Into the mic.
Do I have to say?
Nudes?
Is it nudes?
Madison, you did God's work.
Let's just say that.
Good.
Come on.
These men were going to themselves if you didn't.
No, that's true.
I don't even know.
Okay.
Well, you don't have to say.
You don't have to say, I guess.
We'll just assume it wasn't just feet picks.
Could have just been fee fixed.
I don't know why you'd be hiding that.
Was it feet fixed?
Probably worse.
It's probably worse than feefakes.
It's probably worse.
So you get a kick out of this.
We're currently in a relationship.
Are you back with...
This is Morgan, yes.
Woo!
Ryan's like, since Brian's.
No, I mean, people break up, they get back together, but you broke up, you're back together.
Exactly.
Longest relationship, still only two years.
She's a sweet girl.
We're actually gone.
We're about to be the longest relationship I've had after February.
City Boys?
No, not City Boys.
I'm a retired City Boy.
Well, you used to be a City Boy.
Retired City Boy.
Cool, cool, cool.
All right, let me get these super chats and then we'll get into our first topics for the show.
Wow, dude, guys, thank you so much for the support.
You guys are blasting the super chats.
So we got quite a few here.
Just a reminder, guys, all super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
I will read answer super chats.
$10 and up.
Okay, so we have this guy.
At what age would you get married, start family?
We'll go around the table really quick on this.
If you just want to give what age you'd get married and have kids, go ahead.
I'm not sure.
Maybe around 30?
Maybe 28?
Seems like a good age.
Maybe in the median, 29.
How about you?
Same.
30.
Seems like a good age.
A good age.
30?
Yeah.
And you're 28 now, right?
No, I'm 26.
26.
Oh, okay.
You got time.
Go ahead.
I don't know.
I don't think marriage is something for me.
I don't really see myself in a marriage.
You don't see yourself in a marriage?
No, I think.
What about kids?
Even kids.
It's like, I don't want to sound like that, but like, I don't really see that the world is like a good place to birth children right now.
Like, you don't really see like any future.
Like, not a good future.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That's what it is.
Eric, can you boost the audio on the keyboard just a little bit?
So you're, yeah, just boost it to 90.
It's really low for some reason.
So you don't want to have kids because why?
There's like no safety.
I don't know.
I don't really see like if you see like climate change and all of the things that are happening right now, I don't really see like a good world in the future.
So I don't really know if I really want to put kids when I don't really like guarantee a good future for them, you know?
What if you could guarantee a good future for your kids?
Depends on if I find a good partner.
Like I want a stable, maybe like a stable relationship and like stability in my life.
So then maybe, yeah.
I mean, you're young, you're 18, so.
Exactly.
Like, why?
I don't really think about having kids right now.
Yeah, but I mean, you can, certainly you might not want to have kids now or any time in the foreseeable future, but perhaps maybe in your mid to late 20s, you think it could change.
Yeah, it could change, definitely, but it really depends on how the future is going to look like, really.
And so your primary concern is, is it environmental concerns?
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely environmental problems and like climate change and politics.
Like, I don't know.
I don't see really a good stability, like, stable society right now.
I feel like there's going to be something, I don't know.
Do you think on an individual level, in terms of the environment, do you think on an individual level we should take action at an individual level?
How many times am I going to repeat myself?
To reduce our impact?
I think that's a really good question to ask because like most of the like most of the CO2 and the air is like produced by big, big brands and only politics actually can do a lot or change a lot.
So obviously you should think about USEO2 footprint print, but like you should definitely go vote.
Like vote for good parties that care about the environment and care about the global climate change because they're the ones in power and they are the ones that can change anything.
Okay.
Beautiful.
What age would you like to start a family?
I mean you kind of already did you have a kid?
No, no, no.
Okay, but I got married.
You were married?
Yeah, when I was 27.
What's that?
When I was 27.
Would you like to get married again or do you think you've had enough of men?
I think I had enough for the next like, I don't know, five years, but then I think I would like to get married.
That only depends on the partner, though.
Do you want kids?
No.
And you're pretty set on that?
Yeah, I think if I find the right person, is there?
Yeah.
It's just like a lot to think about with the pandemic.
The same thing.
What about you?
I'm going to say like around 30 as well.
But if it feels right to do it earlier or later, then earlier or later.
Sure.
Madison?
Probably like 25.
25, okay.
Getting started early.
Tristan, go ahead.
I feel like most guys, like, for the most part, from what I've heard, they are not really willing to get married as much as girls.
Girls are always like, that's like, they always dream of like the marriage part, you know?
I don't think I want to have like, you know, a legal, have to like go through a legal route to get married.
Yeah, at one point, if I do find, you know, the right person, that is, you know, something I could do on my own without having to go the legal way.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I want to hear your take on this because, I mean, you've been married.
You really think that you're not going to get it.
Yeah, we got to move on.
Just got a lot of fun.
I don't think I needed to.
But, all right, we got, by the way, just reminder, $10 and up for the super chats.
Flan Life with the Canadian $10.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Kiki, do you love me?
Whoa.
Sorry.
I guess you did.
I guess.
Whose voice is that?
That's Kiki's voice.
Of course.
Thank you, Flan Life.
Appreciate it.
By the way, Flan Life, I think you gifted some subs, or gifted memberships.
20 gifted, I think.
Hold on, what's the trigger on that?
For some reason, StreamYard will not show when people gift memberships.
hold on let me get this we got yo plan life thanks for the gifted memberships Appreciate it, man.
Okay, so we have, let's see here, we got Pollux.
Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Bri, I want the first asteroid of 2023.
Welcome back.
Seeing your stuff on MHD and other channels, Jim.
Hey, Jim, really appreciate the support, man.
And I got you.
Send the asteroid, boys.
Send the asteroid.
That's so funny.
Boom.
Asteroid sent.
Okay.
Bro, I'm dying.
I need to find a one that someone does like a green screen one where we actually see it coming from like outside.
I don't know if there's any visual effects people that could do something like that, but I don't know.
Anyways, yo, Flan Life, thank you for the big 200 Canadian dollar super chat.
Oops, wrong one.
Yo, this is for the storm recovery.
Dude, thank you so much, man.
Really appreciate the support.
It was good talk.
We didn't really communicate too much back and forth, but I got your email.
It was good to hear from you over the break.
And thank you, man.
Yeah, the storm wasn't a nightmare, especially for scheduling the show, but really appreciate your support, man.
Good to see you back.
Yo, we got Michael.
Tell me how I pronounce your name, man.
I'm not sure.
Michael Metrochi.
Metroke the fourth.
Wow, the fourth.
That's impressive.
Thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
Good to see you.
Whatever and Fresh and Fit need to unite.
I'd love to get on their show or have them come here.
I'd love to see Myron on the panel with California girls because, I mean, it's kind of all the same all over the place, but obviously their demographic is slightly different in terms of the girls in Miami versus the girls here in Southern California.
So would love to collaborate with them.
Love their show, obviously.
Big inspiration.
Let's get you modded up, Michael.
Eric, do you know how to mod?
No.
In the pop-out chat, can you, if you can, it might be tough to find him.
But, Michael, if you can comment again and wait, let me see if I can.
I might be able to do it.
I'll do it on my end, Eric.
But I'm going to try to get you Maude if you can do, oh, there she goes.
Okay.
And let's see here.
I can do it.
You got it?
Yeah, just add mod.
And yo, welcome to the family, Michael.
Appreciate it.
All right, let's see here.
Dude, you guys are blowing up the soup chats.
Really appreciate the support.
I'm overwhelmed.
Oh, Mike Davis, weeks off, and you put together this pack of misfits for your return.
Two chicks with dyed hair and kitty and cat.
I think Brian set this panel up in order of normalcy from left to right, Major L.
Yeah.
Good to see you back, Mike Davis.
Eric, can you pull up that photo of Mr. Mike Davis?
That was pretty nice for Mike Davis.
Boom.
If you guys don't know, Mike Davis is a proprietor of numerous Burger King restaurants on the East Coast and a big patron of the podcast.
So, Mike Davis, thank you very much.
And yeah, you know, we got some colorful hair on the show.
Definitely, definitely.
We were going to have like two or three other girls, but because of the storms, people weren't able to make it.
So, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Excel self with the $10 Super Chat.
One of them is giving me sociopath vibes.
I'm assuming you're talking about the girl who's in the bathroom right now.
Oh, she's coming.
She's coming back.
Y'all talking about me?
She's coming.
Yeah, we're talking about you.
Hello.
Excel self says, one of them is giving me sociopath vibes.
I believe he's referring to you.
Do you have a response to Excel Self?
I'm not a sociopath.
Okay.
I guess you got it.
Period.
Slay.
Sorry.
What do you want me to say to that?
Do you want me to convince you that I'm not?
Well, I mean, you could roast him back.
What does he look like?
Let's see.
Y'all, should we roast him?
What does he look like?
I mean, it's on the screen.
You look like the guy at a high school party who has a backpack, who is selling drugs to high schoolers.
That's what you look like.
Oh.
Period.
Wow.
I'm trying to look.
Is he not, y'all?
That wasn't very old, actually.
Wow.
I'm a woman of God, and God is honest.
Okay, we have Northern Lights with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
General question for all of you: Are high school relationships worth it?
Is it worth having the experience?
I mean.
Yes, I think so.
I think relationships in high school could be beautiful, but when it stretches a little past high school, then it's just needs a little bit more maturity, but they can be beautiful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whatever state of mind you're at, you can express love.
Word.
Oh, wait.
Could be just like, okay.
Go around?
I'd say like, I mean, it's not necessary.
I mean, I had enough relationships, so like, and I had a really good experience.
But still, like, go ahead if you want a relationship.
Do the first step, man.
I was watching this document interview that was saying that we only fall in love at the same time, like, biologically, until we're 25 years old.
So after that, it doesn't feel that great anymore.
So maybe you should think about falling in love.
It doesn't feel that great anymore.
Like, falling in love is not the same.
You don't get the same amount of pain or things.
After an age, it's true.
Yeah.
It's true.
Why would you say that?
Mommy's smart.
I wasn't quite sure.
I mean, think of it like this.
Think of it like this.
If you've been in love 10 times, gee, I don't know how that happens, but you've been in love with 10 different people.
You think number 11 is going to be particularly special?
I think so, yeah.
You know?
I think everything, everybody has, like, every relationship has, like, their differences, and therefore, like...
Yeah, you can find yourself loving something new.
I think you can even fall in love with 60 years old.
You're bringing way too much baggage and trauma to the next relationship.
Wait, after that.
Maybe go to therapy, man.
You think that people can't heal and move on?
exactly no but like heal there's there's also like they can't do that it's not even just healing there's like there's if someone truly messes someone up like if you if you cheat on someone and that person will forever have that baggage there's no there's no amount of healing that's gonna like take that like thought in their back of their head now that they're like are you speaking for everyone or just yourself no No, I'm speaking for people I personally know that have been cheating on and then they're like now have trust issues with the people that they end up getting with later on.
It's just like you can heal to a certain amount, but that's always going to be in the back of their head.
You can work with therapy for that.
Yeah, I mean therapy will help for sure.
But if you've been in 10 relationships and they all ended, for sure there's been something that messed up those 10 relationships.
I could stick with you.
Oh, by the way, Eric, when I asked if there was a bit of a stutter or an issue with the frame FPS, do you remember what people were spamming in the chat?
Said it looked good.
They said it looked good.
It looked okay.
Okay, cool, cool.
Just wanted to make sure.
Here it looks a little.
Yeah, sorry.
Our monitor, for some reason, is like when I'm moving my hand, it looks like it's lagging.
Anyways, the whatever studio, technical issues.
Okay, so let's see.
We have.
Did you guys want to give your take on the high school relationship?
I would like to give my take.
Oh, I thought you did.
Well, I would like to elaborate.
I thought my high school relationship was good because it showed me what I liked and what I didn't like really early on in life.
So I see people my age going through these issues that I went through in high school.
And it seems like it would be a little bit more convenient to go through it when you had resources to give your emotions to this person through your parents.
Because maybe coming into that issue later on in life, you won't have those resources.
So learning earlier is always better.
Yeah.
I think, I mean, the advice I would give, for example, young guys in high school is don't try to be a player in high school.
Wait until college if you're going to be a player.
Just get a girlfriend in high school and then break up with her once you go to college because, you know.
Anyways.
Why do you say that, though?
Well, you said, don't be afraid.
You don't want to be a player in high school.
Why not?
Do you speak from experience?
I don't know.
Try wasn't a player.
Listen, just like I'm a man of God.
So, you know, I'm.
Wait, so let's say you are happy in high school.
Then you're going to break up anyway because of college.
Why?
What's that?
Like, if you were happy with your girlfriend in high school, then you're going to break up anyway?
No.
No, obviously if you're happy, you stay with her.
But like, you shouldn't be trying to pimp in high school.
Okay.
That's what I think.
Like, just get a relationship, figure out, like, what do you mean by pimp, though?
Like, not mess around with people.
I just don't like be running through, like, can you even, I guess some guys can.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I take it as like, if you're in a relationship all of high school, you're taking the experience route with the relationship.
So you'll kind of see how relationships are for later on.
But you're also missing out on other experiences, like experimenting, talking to other people if you're stuck with that one person in high school.
Like, just speaking from experience, from being in a relationship, like a long relationship in high school, I looking back at it, I wish I never was in it.
Yeah.
Are you serious?
I really do.
No, I seriously do.
That's what Uzi says.
He goes, like, I love that girl too much.
I wish I never met her.
What?
Who says that?
Uzzy.
Uzi.
Uzi, wake up.
Yeah, he goes, like, I love that girl too much.
I wish I never met her.
Lil Uzi.
Oh, Lil Uzi.
Does that make sense to you now, Tristan?
Are you like, oh, I feel him?
No, but not even that.
She was just bad shit crazy.
Whoa.
Well, that's different.
I thought you meant like you like her.
I'm sorry.
Lil Uzi, like, little Uzi, like Lila Rock.
Girl, don't play that sound.
You don't know who Lil Uzi Virt is?
I listen to 90s and early 2000s pop punk and grunge music.
I'll take that back.
I don't know why I said it like that.
Okay, I'm surprised.
Anyways, moving on here.
Okay, so let's see.
We have yo, Flan Life with the big 50 Canadian dollar soup chat.
Appreciate it, man.
Which parent is hardest to impress when you're introducing your significant other to them?
The dad.
I think the dad.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
The dad, for sure.
Wait, which parents?
Especially when you're like a girl, because they're kind of protective.
Yeah.
Are we talking about for boys?
Yeah, I guess it depends.
That depends.
I would say if you're like meeting your boyfriend's parents, it would be the mom.
Probably the mom.
But for the guy, meeting the girlfriend's parents, yeah, it's for sure the dad.
Just the opposite sex.
Yeah, yeah.
So, although they're, I mean, there's a lot of single parents out there.
So, anyways, Flan Life, thank you for the Canadian $10 man.
Appreciate it.
The tick with the $10 soup chat, would you delete your Insta for the correct man?
This is a good question.
For a serious relationship, or would you continue devaluing your values in your teens for a so-called ho phase?
Okay, would you delete your insta for the correct man for a serious relationship?
Okay, yeah, we'll ask that.
So, starting here, would you delete your Instagram?
Or maybe I could frame it.
I don't have like Instagram besides my surf account.
Okay, so Instagram or marriageable man?
I have no value in my Instagram, so I guess marriageable man by default.
Okay.
What about you?
I would never delete it.
You would never delete your Instagram.
No.
Why?
let's say you meet the perfect guy the perfect guy would you wouldn't have to do that Yeah, exactly.
Pyrrhian.
That comes from insecurity.
Yeah, does it, though?
Of course.
Yes, it does.
Why does it mean that you're not going to be able to do that?
Why would you ask somebody to delete their Instagram?
So, the question is: why should someone, why would a guy want a girl to either delete their Instagram or maybe a bit on the lower end go private or maybe not post revealing photos or whatever?
I don't really think that's concept.
Proud?
Yeah, if I posted a bikini pick, they should be protected.
The guy should be proud.
Well, you need context.
If the girls posted some like you should be proud at the end of the day, he is the guy I'm in a relationship with.
I'm not sure if you're a person who's a good person.
He should be proud.
What types of photos are on that Instagram?
That's the question.
Sorry.
Well, why are you assuming that all girls post photos that are?
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying what, exactly.
That's why I'm asking.
And Instagram doesn't entail that you post provocative photos.
Yeah, but what if this Instagram, we're seeing hypothetically, does have provocative photos?
Would you sign up?
Yeah, okay, okay.
If you go to a relationship and you meet the girl, she's posting like that, I feel like that's an argument you can make, you know, obviously, because you met her like that.
You know, that's the girl that you're trying to get at.
Personally, if a girl is posting provocative stuff like that, I probably wouldn't be looking to get in a relationship with that.
So I wouldn't even have that argument.
But if you did have to take it down, you say he's insecure if he would try to make you take it down, right?
Okay, I'll be insecure.
But that also depends on their profession, right?
The occupation.
If they are an influencer and they have a now chance, whatever.
A couple models on set, they have to post that.
But most girls are not models that have an Instagram.
Can I ask why you're bothered by them posting that?
Well, I didn't say that.
The question, the super chat, is asking that.
But I can sort of tell you why the framework for why guys kind of have an issue when it comes to a girl's Instagram.
Let me ask you guys a question.
How many DMs do you guys get from guys where it's clear they're trying to hit you up?
It doesn't matter.
I don't get any DMs.
Well, answer the question.
Answer the question.
Definitely a lot, but I mean, do I answer them?
No.
Sure, but how many would you say you get in a day or a week?
I don't know, like maybe in a week, 20, 30?
20 or 30.
Okay.
You're not really on Instagram, so what about you?
Do you get any DMs from guys on Instagram?
But I'm private, so I don't really get any.
Okay, private, yeah, less likely to DM you.
What about you?
Any DMs?
One a day, like.
One a day?
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
I do get some.
Not that many, because my relationship is pretty.
Oh, you're.
Yeah, sorry.
You have, you're in a relationship, yeah.
But even in a relationship, you are getting some.
Yeah, they still do.
Okay, Madison, what about you?
Everything can get ruined.
Madison, do you get DMs?
Yeah, I get some.
How many per day or a week?
Not that many.
A little louder.
Not that many.
Yeah, I want you to yell.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Like, like two a day.
Two a day.
That's a lot.
Okay.
That's how many DMs a guy might get in his entire life.
Two DMs in his entire life.
So you're getting this degree of attention that like a normal girl, the attention she gets on Instagram is the equivalent of like an A-list celebrity.
Do you realize the like a male A-list celebrity?
Do you realize the amount of options and leverage you guys have just off of your Instagram, not even counting dating apps and all this stuff?
But like it's not a competition, right?
Yeah.
Why would you be threatened by that model?
If I'm in the innovation, I got a follow-up question.
I got a follow-up question.
Has a guy with a blue check mark, someone who's verified on Instagram, ever DM'd you?
Of course.
Baby Keem and Tom Anderson.
Oh, you're right.
DMs do not discriminate.
Who's in the Tom Anderson, the guy from MySpace?
He DM'd yes.
My check!
What?
Yo, what?
A couple of times, actually.
Hold on.
That is so funny.
MySpace Tom.
Show of hands at the table.
Who else has been DM'd by MySpace Tom?
Who is he?
I feel a little bit trade now.
Wow.
It's just us?
Okay, thank God.
Two out of like, what?
That's good on.
That's fine.
So, okay.
MySpace Tom DM'd you.
Who's the other guy?
Baby Keem.
We were just talking.
It's fine.
It wasn't anything.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Who is Baby Keem?
Exactly.
He's just a rapper.
Any other blue check marks?
Any other blue check marks or is that it?
Not that I can think of it.
Aren't you private on Instagram too?
I do have a surf account and that is.
The surf account, but they're DMing.
DMing you.
But hold on.
When you say they DM'd you, like, because you have your surf account, was it like for a surfboard or were they DMing you?
Like, they're interested?
They're interested.
Okay.
So Tom also DM'd you?
MySpace Tom?
She's a pretty girl, of course.
Yeah, of course, of course, right?
But any other verified blue check marks?
More than 10?
Maybe around?
Probably.
20?
No, less than 20.
Between 10 and 20.
Yeah.
Okay.
You don't have to say their names.
You can if you want.
What kind, like, are they musicians, athletes, actors?
Yeah, musicians.
I mean, like, athletes.
Okay.
Yeah, not actors, I think.
Yeah.
NFL player?
I don't know, actually.
I just click, I see, I don't know who it is, and I'm just like, whatever.
I just don't answer.
NBA player?
No.
Okay.
All right.
But you've had some athletes, some famous people DM you.
They're clearly interested in you.
Okay.
Anybody else blue check marks?
Only on like there was like one famous Brazilian singer actually.
Oh, who is it?
I totally forgot his name, but it was like he was actually on Tinder and he was asking me about I don't even know.
Do you wanted to blitz Krieg?
He wanted give me money if I will like come over and drop his name right now.
How much money?
What's his name and his Instagram?
I really dropped that too.
I just have my phone, but like I totally forgot his name, but he had like 8 million on Instagram and he was like, DM me.
I will answer, but like, are you really ready?
Like, are you ready?
And it was like, what do you want me to do?
And he was like, yeah, I want to like you be like ready to like play with my like fetish.
And I was like, which fetish?
And he was like, I want to hit you to your limit.
Where are you?
Was it an army worker?
No.
BDSM?
That's cannibalism, by the way.
Yeah.
That was a cannibalism.
Okay, so how much did he offer to pay you?
I didn't ask.
I didn't further ask because I was like, after he said, I want to hit you to your limit, I was like, what?
And he just said a lot of money.
Oh, did he pay you some?
No, he said, I'm going to pay you a lot of money if you're going to like be like open.
Okay.
What about you?
Blue check marks?
Three.
Three?
Yeah.
Musicians, actors, athletes?
Musician, actor, and producer.
What about you?
I mean, I'm not sure if they had the blue check mark, but I did get a DM from some famous Dutch guy.
Armin Van Buren?
Is he Dutch?
I think he is, yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Madison, blue check marks?
I don't think I've gotten the name.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Tristan, has a girl with a blue check mark ever DM'd you?
No, blue check marks, but she brought up Tinder.
You know who has tried to hit on me or try to get on me on Tinder?
James Charles.
Oh my gosh!
I told him I was straight.
No, because my DMs, I was with these girls.
I was with these girls and they were like, right side, right side.
And it literally says match.
I was like, bro, what the hell's he doing on the girls?
Be careful.
Be careful.
No, This was years ago.
So I literally years ago.
How old were you, dude?
Yeah.
He's told me.
I think I was 20.
I think it was 20 or 90.
You're not a victim.
I was 20 or 19, but like, I was, no, I seriously think those accusations of him are for real because I gave the girls like, have fun with the phone.
He's like, I want to text him.
So they started flirting with him on my Tinder account.
He was checked.
Like, it was verified on Tinder.
Yeah.
So, like, it was hilarious just scrolling through the messages, seeing the shit.
They were saying he wanted to bring me to his house.
I'm like, bro, I got my phone back and I was just like, dude, I'm straight.
Like, these girls are talking to you.
I believe you because that same thing happened to my friend.
But, like, on Tinder, on your side, you can set dude set himself up as a girl.
Bruv.
Oh, that's how he gets it.
That's how he gets all my guy.
That's fucked up.
Could it have been like an imposter?
No, no, because they have a verification process and his account was verified.
It's not like Twitter today where you pay for the blue check.
Like, back then it was legit.
Wait, put it on.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, keep it here if you can.
I don't want to cover Maddie.
That's fun.
What do you mean?
No, well, it's not blocking her.
Okay, so going back to the whole why dudes have an issue with Instagram thing is you're kind of keeping your options open.
Does it matter what they're saying to you?
Do you think an A-list celebrity looks through all of their DMs?
Like, definitely not.
If you're comparing a woman to an A-list celebrity, they definitely don't look through all their DMs.
No, like, if she gets two a day, like, that's literally like 14 in a week.
That is so many to look through.
Like, no one's looking through that.
Especially if you have a boyfriend, it's like, why are you even going to look?
Like, do you trust in your girlfriend?
Yeah.
Because in the history of relationships, nobody's ever cheated ever or ended a relationship to maybe pursue a different partner.
her that's okay but receiving a dm is not like she can go outside go to a coffee shop and cheat on you It's all her behavior.
Let me ask you guys a question.
Okay.
Yeah, it's more about the man's judgment.
You guys are, you two are from Brazil, right?
Yeah.
Bolsonaro slides into your DMs.
Oh my God.
Oh, yeah.
That's so broad.
That's complicated.
You're going for him, right?
What?
No.
Oh, no.
No?
Oh, okay.
I'm trying to think about it.
Okay, so Joe Hanson hits on you.
You go for her, right?
Okay, hold on.
You're dating a guy who makes $70K a year.
Oh, my God.
Well, actually, I don't know.
Why, Brian?
No, I didn't say Drake.
Drake is like talented.
Do you answer?
Let's say you're single, right?
Do you respond to Drake's DM?
If I'm single, you can't say that.
If you're single, what about you?
Yeah.
Okay.
What if you've been seeing a guy for three weeks?
Do you respond to Drake's DM?
You'd be like, bro, look, Drake's seen me.
I mean, three weeks.
Three weeks.
Three weeks.
If I was seeing a girl, I'd open Drake's message, bro.
Yeah, I'd be like, dude, I gotta get clapped by Drake.
I think even if that guy would answer.
Yeah, Tristan said it, not me.
Tristan's like, I gotta open that DM.
On.
Oh my god.
No.
That's not what you're doing.
Sends the asteroid.
I had this conversation with my cousin where he was like, okay, if my wife ever cheated on me with Brad Pete, I would be like, oh my god, like she was like, she had sex with Brad Pete and she's still married with me.
So it would be like a title of honor.
Like a thrill.
Yeah, like a no, just like you know.
Yeah.
Like, okay, she can get Brad Pete and she's with me.
So he was like, that's kind of a belt, like a boxing belt, like a trophy.
I've definitely had that conversation with my girlfriend, though, like, all right, what if, what if, what's Scarlett Johansson instead of my DMs?
Like, what would you do?
Like, supportive.
No, no, she would, she obviously would know.
Like, I still think like you would still, in that scenario, you were saying, you still can't do anything with them.
That's like, obviously, reply to the message.
That's fine, but like, you're not going to do anything.
I think you still got to be loyal.
Of course.
Yeah.
Brian, what are your thoughts?
You're thinking about something.
If I, by the way, I'm about to use an analogy here.
Oh, no.
I'm not.
I want to make something clear because I don't want to get canceled.
We live in California, California stand.
The analogy I'm about to use, I'm not trying.
Nobody is property, but it is an analogy to articulate a point.
If I buy a car and the dealership says, I want to keep the for sale sign on the car, but you own it, but we're keeping the for sale sign on the car, and maybe I'm going to tell the dealership, fuck you.
An analogy, guys.
An analogy.
Yeah, that's exactly the point.
A woman is not analogy.
I already prefaced, I preemptively said that.
Okay.
Yeah, no, that's valid.
I see what he's getting at.
No, but that's more like if you have your Tinder still open, though.
I don't think I'm going to be able to do that.
Yeah, I agree on that.
I agree on that.
I agree on that.
Nobody is doing that.
That's what I'm trying to say: if I was in a relationship with you, we had a conversation, we're monogamous, and you're still on Tinder.
Yeah, here's the thing about the music.
Yeah, that's a problem.
That's a red flag.
But here's the thing.
For women, Instagram is, in essence, a dating app.
No!
No, I've never met anybody ever in Red Life.
Explain how it is a dating app to us.
Explain it.
Most people nowadays meet online.
Instagram is a dating app.
So you cannot be online at all.
Otherwise, you're not cheating on your partner.
Brian, that means you can't be online either.
It's different.
It's different.
How is it different?
It's different.
Yeah.
Because guys don't get hit up like that.
Guys do not get online.
But isn't that a problem, guys?
Yeah, you can follow 100 hot girls and keep on.
I mean, I'm not asking for the DMs.
Nobody's asking for that.
I don't follow anyone on that.
How do we know that you're also not sliding a girl's DM?
Yeah.
How do you know?
Yeah.
How do you know?
If you accuse your girl of doing that by saying the for sale sign is still up, like well, that would be overt.
How do you know you're one of the dudes who's like sliding into another girl's DMs if it's so common?
The difference is, is that that would be me taking a very specific action.
Whereas with women, men and women flirt differently.
So a guy has to take an action, an initiative.
It could be in a bar or nightclub.
We have to approach the girl.
Whereas girls, the way you flirt, it's not by doing what guys do by sending a message or going up to the person.
Some girls do it.
Overwhelmingly, most girls don't approach guys.
They don't send DMs.
So men and women flirt differently.
You just have to kind of be out there in the ether.
Wait, how do we flirt?
Yeah, how do girls flip it?
You just show up.
That I flirt is not.
That's not slurting.
It's just like leaving.
But that's learned when you start talking to the person and engaging.
Exactly.
If you receive a thousand of DMs and you don't answer any, it's not going anywhere.
But then if you're like, oh my god, that's so nice.
Thank you for saying that for sure.
So that depends on the girl's action.
So if you're confident about your girl, that she's never gonna answer the thousand of DMs that she's gonna get.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, like if you want to buy a house on the beach, it's gonna be common that people are gonna be walking by it.
It's not the house's fault.
It's the location's fault.
I think that's like a good analogy.
If you think about it, because it's like didn't ask for all those people to walk by.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
It's not always the woman.
And that doesn't mean that people are gonna like go into that house.
It doesn't mean the house is going to accept those people.
She has a pint.
She has a pint.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm just trying to, I actually, me personally, if my girl has an Instagram, I don't really care.
I don't really care.
Now, the types of photos she posts could kind of be an issue.
Look, would it be my preference if a girl I was seeing just didn't even have social media?
Sure.
But if she has it, I don't really care.
But I'm just, I'm honestly just being devil's advocate on this point.
The bigger issue I have on this, and me and Tristan, we've talked about this before, and I, guys, I see all your super chats.
I will get to them very soon.
Sorry, guys.
Is our girl going to the club or bar or party?
I think that's the bigger issue for me personally.
I think every gender has an issue with that.
Yeah, women can have an issue with that too.
Yeah, I don't think that's a specifically like girl or boy issue.
Like everyone has insecurities when they're in a relationship.
Word.
Anyways, we can maybe come back to that.
We spent quite a bit of time on that.
I need to get through all the super chats here because there's a ton.
Okay, so let's see.
We have Zoro Slost 11 with the $10 Super Chat.
A promiscuous woman equals 3FO.
A man equals a 3FO maker.
Your body count matter because that's easy to get for.
He speaks cryptically.
This is Zoro Sloss 11.
I'm not surprised.
A profile photo, I'm not surprised.
Can you send us like a cipher so we can like break this down?
So what comes easy is not respected.
What is one right law?
How?
Okay.
What is one right law opportunity that a man has that you don't in 2023?
Okay, well this is kind of like well I appreciate the super chat.
What is written opportunity?
I'm so sorry.
I don't know.
I'm getting dyslexia just reading it.
I'm sorry.
Okay, so we'll ask, we'll go around the table really quick on this one.
I'll ask the last part of this.
The first word of that.
So, okay.
You often hear feminists saying, you know, we're fighting for women's rights.
We need women's rights.
So what is a right privilege or what is it?
Right law or opportunity?
I mean, God, you're scuffing the question.
But do I really want to talk about this right now?
Okay.
We can say thank you for it.
I want you, if you can, think of one right or law.
I'm framing it wrong.
Think of one right or law that a man has that a woman does not.
Bigger salaries.
That's not a right or a law.
I mean.
And it's not true either, but is that true?
Do you really want to talk about it?
I don't really know.
There's so many super chats.
We might have to come back.
Oh, I have one.
Well, okay, to address that really quick, the wage gap has been debunked time and time again.
Economists.
Nobody wants to talk about that, Brian.
Well, I'll finish my piece on it.
Economists have debunked it.
Basically, there's just differences in choices.
Men tend to work more hours.
We work different jobs.
We go into different career fields.
So there's, and there's a lot of stuff.
I think it's more acceptable for a man to be promiscuous than a woman.
You think it's more acceptable for a man to be.
Well, that's not the question I asked, but we can a law that applies to a man.
No, no, but repeat what you said.
Did I answer the question wrong?
No, just put.
We'll talk about that.
Go ahead.
I just think it's more socially acceptable for a man to be promiscuous, and it's not socially acceptable for a woman to be promiscuous.
Well, that's not a right or a law, but you're not aware of that.
I thought you meant like social laws or like social rights.
I don't know laws.
You're right, but I mean, okay, so that's a double standard, but it's a justified double standard.
Yeah?
Okay, I guess we'll come back to that.
What rights or laws are you guys talking about?
I don't know.
Okay, we're going to move on.
We tried.
We got, man.
Sorry.
This whole show might be super chats.
Okay, Bernito Sandriguez with the $10 Super Chat.
Do you date with intent to follow through with spending life together?
Or you date without expectations of a future relationship?
Really quick, guys.
We'll go around the table on this.
Go ahead.
You date intent to follow.
I guess if I love someone, I love someone.
Definitely, Day.
We intend to follow through.
Yeah, same.
Yeah, the same.
Yeah, same for me.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, I'm not going to waste my time not thinking that it's not going to follow through.
So I do know people that don't think of the future.
They're just like, oh, yeah, we're just together right now.
But they're not really, they don't have plans to keep going.
They're just stupid.
Yo, we got happy with the $10 Super Chat.
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Looks like I have more characters.
Defenestration is a good word to know.
It means the action of throwing someone out of a window.
Hey, thank you for that fun fact, happy.
Really appreciate the support.
Thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
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Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Ayo, Mike Davis, do you need any investors in the Burger King?
Can you pull up the Mike Davis thing real quick, Eric?
Boom.
Okay.
He looks cool.
Guys, Mike Davis is hiring.
Okay.
Sweet.
Yo, thank you, Flan Life.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you for the big.
Oh, well, we got another one.
Flan Life with a Canadian $50 Super Chat.
Just here to one-up Mike Davis.
Damn, dude, thank you for the support, man.
Really appreciate it.
Big.
Oh, wait, hold on.
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While we're at it, Eric, can you pull up the Twitch?
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All right, so we have Zoroslost with the $10 Super Chat.
What is that from an anime?
His avatar, by the way?
I don't know.
That's from One Piece.
Oh, One Piece, okay.
Very iconic anime.
It's always the colorful hair ones that act the most innocent.
We see right through you, you demon.
Do you know about hitting the wall?
Because the wall is always undefeated.
Louis, what do you think about that?
He has no comment.
I have no comment either.
Do you have a response?
Do you want to say something back to Zoros Lost?
11.
It's always the colorful hair ones that are the most innocent.
We see right through you.
You're a demon.
If you see me as a demon, you have that right.
That's fine.
What am I supposed to do?
You don't want to fire back?
Okay.
No, it's not in my jurisdiction.
What do you think about that, Sarah?
You have colored hair, too.
Who thinks you're a demon?
Yeah, whatever.
People call you a demon.
They can call you whatever.
It's okay, moving on, Leonardo MiCaprio.
Thank you for the Canadian $10.
Appreciate it, man.
Hey, good to see you back.
Hope you had a good new year and holidays, man.
This podcast will blow up this year.
Let's not forget those we lost.
Rip Entertain Me, Rip, XDM, Rick's Rip Adolph Meowler, Rip Top G Free Chase.
Yeah, XDM was actually left a comment, so he might pop back up.
But yeah, I think Entertain Me is gone, sadly.
By the way, I think you are Adolph Meowler.
Okay, Jacob Shear, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Have any of you coped with someone walking away realizing it's not what they want or a time?
Wait, have any of you coped with someone walking away realizing it's not what they want or a time they want it?
Of course.
Yes.
It's heartbreaking.
But you need to move on.
Yeah.
I agree on that.
Best move is to block them and move on.
Like if you change your physical habits, then your brain will also change to think that's comfortable.
So just move on.
Okay.
Yo, we got Zoroslost with the $10 Super Chat.
A single woman in her late 20s and so on has been lied by feminism society and turned into duh.
Masculine, independent man she always wanted to date, marry.
Your career status, money does not make you sexier.
By whose standards?
I think being a rich woman is very sexy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think a woman who doesn't need help is very sexy.
I think a woman who doesn't ask for help is sexy.
Independent makes you sexy.
I think people who ask for help are not sexy.
You're trying to view it from your point of view, but it doesn't apply to everyone.
But what I'm saying is that women tend to look at the male metric of success, which is go make a bunch of money, right?
Have a great career.
But the thing is, that doesn't, when it comes to being attractive to the opposite sex, your career, the money you make, for most men, it doesn't make you sexier.
It doesn't make you more attractive.
It doesn't make you more appealing.
I mean, I'm bisexual.
I can speak for both sides.
Yeah, I would think it was pretty sexy if a woman didn't ask for help and could make her own money.
Yeah, also that's very like a heteronormative question.
Well, the majority of people are heterosexual.
Yeah, that is.
Okay, well, that's good to know.
I'll keep that in mind.
But yeah, so, yeah, men, generally speaking, if you make a ton of money, it's not, it's not really, doesn't make you more attractive in the same way that a woman who looks at a guy who's a doctor or a lawyer, they see the prestige, they see the money.
It doesn't, it makes him more attractive.
But for men, it's not, a successful guy will gladly date a 19-year-old barista.
wait i'm confused he's saying like guys that are that are like no i get it but like like i make money because i want to be in a comfortable situation not because i want to be sexy Sure.
That's totally fine.
But we're speaking within the context of that appeal to a partner.
So, like, makes does make does money make you more attractive.
I think I'd be more like, I don't know.
If side by side, these two women were like put together.
Obviously, the girl that has more money, she probably has more ambition, more hustle.
She's probably got a, it's just the character of that person is probably what I would be.
I'm not even cabin.
I'm not even.
Yeah, what do you mean?
Yeah, like I agree with you.
I wouldn't want a girl that isn't like that.
It's just like a broad that just sits there and doesn't do anything.
Even a guy who sits there, if a guy tells me their hobbies are hanging out with their friends, like I picture them just sitting up and being like doing drugs and watching.
Like, I don't find that attractive.
If someone's ambitious, that's cool.
Yeah.
That's good for them.
I think I don't care about the money part as much.
Is it their character?
Like, if they're actually, if they're making money, they had to have done something right.
They had a grind for that money.
They had to have some ambitions.
They were like.
Do you like masculine women?
No.
Wait, what do you mean masculine, though?
I just, I had, I don't know.
That was an automatic.
That was an automatic came out.
Like, who makes it per se on picture?
It was just like.
In order to succeed, not always, but in order to succeed in the corporate world.
No.
Oh, my God.
No.
I already know what's going on.
You need to.
I want to hear him finish.
Yeah, finish, Brian.
Yeah.
Finish.
You're going, Brian.
Okay.
To be successful in business, you need to cultivate a certain degree of cutthroatness, of assertiveness, of initiative.
And these traits are often linked with masculinity.
Yeah, because that's like being biased.
Like, people see society see women who are like aggressive and men who are ambitious as like the heroes.
So that's like how people think.
But that doesn't mean that you are aggressive just because you were ambitious.
Like, I get it.
You were saying like common sense.
Yeah, that's what people think.
But like, that's also like.
Have you met a female attorney?
Yeah.
They're incredibly disagreeable.
Have you seen disagreeable?
Like a male attorney?
They are the same.
Yeah.
Like, what is the problem?
In order to be an attorney, you need to be disagreeable.
Agreeableness is a feminine characteristic.
Why a woman has to agree?
It shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be.
It's not okay.
Agreeableness is one of the big five personality traits.
Okay.
As a guy, look, and they were outseason agree.
We don't want to have a guy who's on his mission, we don't want to date masculine women.
We don't want to date a mirror of ourselves.
I don't want to have to contend with that.
That's again.
What do you mean by contend?
Like, compete with her?
Like, she's making as much money as you?
No, it's not.
It's not about that.
It's like the attitude.
The attitude?
That's about not being confident again.
Yeah.
I know what you mean.
You want a girl that I know you, you, because I've known you and we've talked about things.
So like, I know you would want a girl that's more submissive and you would be the provider, obviously.
So that's kind of why you were leaning towards the not so masculine.
But I think there can be a badass girl that's not masculine, that's feminine.
I know dudes that make a lot of money that are feminine.
True.
Me too.
Thank you, man.
100% is like badass girls that are feminine and they're just making good money.
They literally can have a clothing store online and they're making six figures easy.
Let me just clarify.
I have no issue dating a girl who works.
It doesn't bother me.
Wow.
Men.
That's so minimum.
No, look, that doesn't bother me.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that Let me bring it back to the financial component.
It's not sexier because women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
For example, I had matched with this girl on Tinder.
She was a litigation attorney.
This was a couple years ago.
She was out earning me $300K a year.
She told me she still, even though she makes $300K a year, she wants a guy to pay for her.
She wants chivalry.
She wants a guy to take her out on dates and to pay, despite the fact that she makes $300,000 a year.
She doesn't want equality in the relationship.
To me, that's fucking, that blows my fucking mind.
Yeah, that's weird.
Yeah, that's true.
It also blows my mind.
But that's the point I'm trying to make: is that women do not share their money with their partner the same way that men share their money with their partner.
If you guys make a lot of money, have you ever offered to fly a guy out?
So those are the ones that you should not date.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Because that's not everyone.
Because that's not everyone.
You're generalizing it, you know.
But what I'm saying is, if you look at also in terms of being spoiled, a guy who makes a lot of money, he might spoil his girl.
Also, a girl who makes a lot of money.
Well, one, a girl who makes a lot of money is not going to look at a broke guy's way.
But a guy who makes a lot of money, he'll date a broke girl.
If she's attractive, he'll still date her.
That's true.
No, that's risky.
No, that's not even a signal.
That's a generalization.
That is most likely.
No, because the guy has to be the guy in general is a provider.
If you look at it, like you can say equality and pay, yeah, like, but guy is usually the provider in relationships.
You guys can all agree with that, right?
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, you're shaking your head.
No.
I don't know.
I don't know.
In general, that's usually how it is.
That's just how that's just how it is.
You know, it's the fact of the matter is the guy is usually the provider.
So if the guy cannot provide for the woman, you know, the woman's obviously not going to be looking his way as much.
You know, there's exceptions, obviously.
Some girls, some girls might look.
Well, here's the thing with that: a woman who's an attorney who's making $200,000 a year, she's going to want to date a guy that's on her level or higher.
She's not going to look at a guy who's a plumber or she's not going to look at a guy who's a barista.
But I guarantee you, a 30-year-old attorney, a male attorney, who's making $100,000, $200K, he'll date the barista.
Because he wants the sub-missive one, like you were saying.
You have to be dependent on it.
Yeah, like he wants power.
It's about power.
It's not about power.
I think it's mostly about power.
It's not about power.
What is about like you say?
Brian, what is this about if it's not about power?
What is it about if it's not about power?
Well, it's a few things.
One.
Okay, a woman who's 21, she's more attractive at 21 than at 31.
Okay, so she's more attractive.
So it's a physical attraction thing.
Okay.
Coinciding with that, it's also a body.
Man, I want to get the super chats, but it's a body count thing.
So someone who's younger has had less body counts.
Has had less sexual partners.
Brian, I know 30-year-olds who have been ran through.
Me and Tristan know a 17-year-old.
Or wait, no, that's Luke.
Sorry.
Oh, my gosh.
So you get it.
You know that's a fallacy.
Oh, you know her?
Yeah, we talked about it.
No, no.
You know that's a fallacy then.
So that you know, but here's the point.
Here's the point.
Let's say, yes, even a 19-year-old girl, could she have 50 bodies?
Sure.
How many bodies is she going to have at 29?
So you're going to just, as you get older, you're obviously going to continue having more sexual partners.
And what that includes is more relationship baggage, more trauma, STDs, potentially.
So frustrating.
Why is it frustrating?
Because body counts, like, bro, we're in 2023.
If a girl is like, if somebody is fucking somebody, if like she has a lot of games, she has a lot of sex.
And women don't have game.
Women don't have games.
A girl could stand there and a guy would literally chase after her because that's just how it is.
That's how it naturally is.
We just talked about how many times you guys get messaged by guys compared to us.
It's just incomparable.
Like, girls have the power to let all these guys in.
So it's like, if you're really sorry about that.
I'm really sorry about that.
Apology accepted.
I'm really sorry about that.
What do you call it?
What do you apologize?
I feel like women are also more selective.
I feel like men, whatever attention guys get.
Okay, the selective part is keeping it.
Girls have to be selective because if they weren't selective, they were just giving it out to every single guy that hits her up.
Her body count would rack up like crazy.
Why does it matter even?
Yeah, why does it matter?
But it does matter.
It does matter.
Why?
But let's go back just for a second in the financial part.
So if you are a 40-year-old guy, like dating a 20-year-old girl, you have to provide because you're just 20 years ahead in your career.
Like you have more money.
The girl didn't have time to build up her career yet.
So like body count, I don't understand.
What do you not understand?
Like this whole part about the financial part, why like men, like why we were doing the comparison about like a 20-year-old woman with a 30-year-old woman and the man who is the provider.
So you're okay, you want to bring it back to the money thing?
Yeah.
Why men don't really care?
Obviously, we don't want to date a girl who has three.
Why is you feeling that girls don't like don't share the same amount as like don't share the money as much as men?
That's a good question.
Have you guys ever been on a first date?
Yeah.
Okay.
Does the guy pay or do you pay?
I share.
No, the guy always have to pay.
Hold on, answer it again.
The guy always have to pay.
On the first date.
Oh, you said you have to pay.
And if you're the one that initiated it going on on a date, he should still pay.
No, that's different.
If I have initiated, that's different, right?
But obviously.
Have you ever initiated a first date?
Well, there you go.
I rest my case, but you can argue it all day.
That doesn't prove anything.
Sorry, that doesn't prove anything.
Women don't share their resources with men.
Generally speaking.
That is slow.
No, that's not true.
She just said she's never paid for a first date.
That's not what I said.
I said I don't believe I have paid.
This is why today I believe in that because I had five relationships where I actually did provide for my ex-boyfriends.
And people take advantage of it.
Yeah.
What do you mean they do?
No, sorry, but I think it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
They're gonna laugh at her.
Turn your chair straight on.
I believe in her.
I was naive.
Yeah, that's about it.
You're in a relationship, obviously.
If you're in the same age, you don't make the same money.
Obviously, yeah, let's pay.
You were providing for your boyfriends.
Not all the time, but obviously, like, if we were going somewhere, I would do it.
Oh, now we're short.
Sorry.
What?
He says, like, when a man provides for a woman, it's a matter of a moment.
It's a bad thing, but then you can show it.
But when she provides for a man, she's automatically a sugar mummy.
I would love to be a sugar mummy.
I have friends who are providing for their boyfriend.
They provided their home.
That's an air.
That is rare.
That's air dikes first off.
That's what you say.
Yeah, obviously, the time, time's changing because society is changing.
That's obviously the case at the moment because people becoming feminists, people becoming aware of the situation.
And maybe that's what we should do.
The thing is, you can become aware of a situation, but you can't change the natural, the natural, like, I don't know, what is it?
Yeah, it's natural because think about it.
If you go back to look, the guy was supposed to go grab the food while the mom took care of the kids.
That's for real.
Yeah, that was not natural.
That was society.
That was not society.
That was society back in the years.
Yeah, obviously that was.
When was the last time you forged for your fruit traders?
It doesn't, I don't, we're not talking about forging food.
It's the natural.
No, you're bringing up back then.
Are we living in back then?
We're not talking about it.
It doesn't feel like it's not.
It's not the natural feeling of your body.
It's evolutionary.
Literally evolution of your body.
That's exactly wrong.
Because if you go back, it's like it's shared.
Women were providers too.
Actually, it was found out the study for the moment.
You're going to argue with me that men back then were stronger than the woman and now it's different.
The man is now the same.
It's like the genetic makeup.
It's evolutionary.
But now you say providing money for women is something about strength?
No, I'm saying that it's evolutionary.
I'm comparing it to that.
I'm comparing that.
Okay, okay.
Sorry, that was German.
Please explain to me why it's evolutionary.
Okay, explain to me why the man still to this day is the main provider in a relationship.
Explain to me that.
I say it's changing at the moment.
Obviously, it was always like because women couldn't make money in the 50s because they weren't allowed to.
And now it's changing.
Obviously, we have to take, it's a time thing.
The time is changing.
We are able to get money.
We are able to get high-paid jobs.
And now even with women with high-paying jobs still want chivalry and to be wined and dined and to have the guy pay for the first date.
Tell me.
He literally had a perfect example.
I had a generalized.
We've had over 200 girls on the show.
I would say most of them say that the guy should pay for the first date.
Or they say whoever asks should pay.
But news flash, 99% of all first dates that have ever happened, the guy asked.
Well, Brian, they're getting mad at the system that men created.
It's like girls didn't ask for guys to ask them out.
Okay, but that's also part of the evolution.
Like you're telling me that guys are now.
If a guy is talking about evolution, please don't date him.
Oh, so you're trying to go get the natural creation of how you feel, how your body, your genetic makeup, and how you actually, like...
Okay, guess what?
We're in 2023.
It's not a bad thing.
What the hell does that matter?
That has nothing to do with hormones or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Irregardless of the current year, that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and social hierarchy.
But how does our body decide who's paying the bills?
Okay, how does your body decide how you find a guy attractive?
You see a guy out there, why?
It's your genetic makeup.
You don't know, you don't know the explanation to it, right?
You just, okay, that guy's attractive, right?
Yeah.
Okay, exactly.
It's the same thing.
But that has nothing to do with money.
That has nothing to do with money issues.
It has to do with providing.
It's providing, mean the provider.
We're not talking about money.
Money has no way to do it.
Currency is not that currency has not changed over the years.
It's literally talking about being the provider.
I can tell.
You can argue it all day, but it's literally.
I can tell you.
I can tell you, provider.
If you talk about, if you talk about back then when we were, I don't know, almost, I don't know, not human beings, they were like, you know, like hunters and the people that were like, like, getting the berries and stuff.
I don't know.
I have no words for that right now.
Those were good.
The blueberries.
But I can tell you, both female and men were providing for the food for the money.
So you believe that one day that women are now going to be, it's going to be flipped.
At one point, time's going to flip.
And women are going to become the main providers for the men.
And men are going to be equal.
It's going to be equal.
So you're telling me there's going to be the equal amount of men that are going to be broke and literally women are going to be chasing after them.
All of a sudden, they're going to change up and they're going to be like, I'm going to chase after this broke man, but I'm making more money than him.
I'll provide for him.
You're telling me that's going to be equal, half and half?
I think it's providing money.
If we talk about providing money, yeah, I think it's going to be easy.
It already is equal.
That's what I'm saying.
It already is equal.
It is equal, yeah.
But why are you saying that?
Okay, so let me ask you a question.
If it's equal, if women are starting, they're already making their own money.
Actually, when it comes to the wage gap, if you look at major cities, women between the ages of 18 to 30, single, for both men and women, who are single, who have never been married, and who have no kids, women out-earn men.
Yeah, okay, that's great.
Women are out-earning men.
Yeah, like when they have no kids, right?
Nope, no kids.
Women outearn men.
It's amazing.
She's like, no kids.
Yeah, no kids.
So like when we have kids, we are like one step behind for a man.
Women tend to prioritize different things once they've had children.
They tend to prioritize.
Like if we both have, like, decide to have a child right now, who is going to carry it?
Well, yeah, you, exactly.
It's going to be me, right?
Even if you prioritize your children, it's going to be me.
So I'm going to be one step behind on my promotion than you.
100%.
The thing about salary gap, that's the thing.
Like, if you don't carry the baby, if the promotion is not the same.
Okay.
I want to bring it back to it's if it's equal now, we don't see women flying guys out.
You didn't say it's equal now.
The money is equal.
Did you say the money is you literally agreed with them?
You said yes, it is equal.
No, it's equal.
Yeah, I think about when we get like the equal payment, equal possibilities, it's going to be equal because we're not getting equal.
It's not going to be paid then right now, right?
Is that what you're saying?
If you look at Scandinavian countries, if you look at Norway, you look at Sweden, these are countries that have done the most that they can to legislate equality between the genders.
You actually start to see more significant differences, for example, in the careers that men and women pursue.
Yeah.
Women are more mostly like a lot of women go to social jobs and men are going to like, I don't know, science.
And do you think that's even in the societies that are the most equal, that suggests to me that there is something innate within men and women that we have sort of innate different preferences on average?
That could be it.
Yeah, obviously.
I think women are more social in some terms, but that has nothing to say with like why women are not pursuing broke men when they provide when they have a lot of money.
I don't get, I don't get like the causation of why women that have a lot of money can't date a broke men or why they don't.
They don't date.
There's exceptions.
They do.
In general, we're talking in general.
In general, a woman who's making that much money will only mainly seek for a man making as much money or more than her.
Whereas a dude who's doing the more money a woman makes, the smaller her pool of potential partners.
Whereas the more money a man makes, the larger pool of potential partners he has.
Because men and women value different things in a partner.
Why are you saying you don't know what to say?
I don't really get the causation.
Why?
I feel like that's just your opinion.
Yeah, I don't really see like there's no.
I wouldn't do it.
If I have a lot of money, I don't really care about the guy having much money or not much money.
I don't care.
And you're an exception.
You're an exception.
You're probably one of the few that do that.
But in general speaking.
Okay, ladies, ladies.
Then I ask you guys.
What do you think?
What do you think about that?
Okay.
Would you date a guy?
If you have a lot of money, would you date a guy that owns less than you?
Absolutely, I don't care.
I want to add to that.
So I want to ask you two.
You guys are, you're 26, you're 30, correct?
Yeah.
You guys have careers, correct?
Can I ask your salary currently?
Like, you don't have to tell me the exact, but give me a range.
80,000.
Same.
80,000?
Okay, would you guys date a guy that makes 30,000?
40,000?
At my age?
No.
Oh, what about you?
If I love him and he has the ambition to begin.
He's going to make 40,000, maybe by the end of his life, he'll make 50,000.
No.
So, like, my point, like, for me, I wouldn't date them because it just means that we have like different ambitions and different passions.
Like, I'm passionate about my job and my career.
It's very important to me.
So if I have someone, like, laying down on the couch the whole day, I'm not going to, like, I'm not going to think he's as sexy as me.
But I would date someone who is making the same salary as me at my age.
Or the same salary or more.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
You have to think about your future.
I understand when I was younger and I was like, I don't care about money, you know, but as you grow older, you have to think about the family.
If you want to have kids, it's a Spencer.
And that's the best.
You need somebody to be in the same teens.
Exactly.
You're 18, so as you get older, it's kind of more of like, it's more of something that you're going to think about a lot more often.
Can you guys agree with that?
Because you're now looking for a man that can provide and secure some stability with you and your family.
Obviously, you don't want kids, so that's not something you're thinking about.
But stability between you and him are something that you're going to prioritize a lot more than when you're 18.
Even if she doesn't want kids, though, when it comes to having a life partner, if someone is significantly earning far less than her, you have to think lifestyle-wise, too.
If you want to go on vacation, you're going to pay for his flight?
You're going to pay for the hotel?
Maybe, you might.
But a lot of women are going to be, well, I'd rather date someone who I can go on vacation with a couple times a month and they can pay their own bills.
And the thing is, you have a lot more options as a woman because there's a lot more men that are open to do that.
As a guy, if you're not making that much money, your pool is a lot smaller.
That's what we're trying to say.
Your pool is a lot smaller.
I personally wouldn't agree on it, but if you think that, obviously.
I don't think it is in general speaking.
We're just speaking in general.
Have you ever gone on a first date?
How many first dates have you had, would you say?
Five.
Have you always split the bill or did the guy pay or what was?
I would say 50% I split the bill.
And then 50% the guy paid?
They want to.
They wanted to.
Okay.
There's not a lot of women that want to.
Get off your phone.
Hello.
There's not a lot of women that want to pay for the entire bill for men.
Anyways, we're going to move on.
We got to get through the super chats.
Guys, you're killing it with the super chats.
Zentience, I see you, man.
Thank you, dude.
All right, let's get these super chats out of the way.
All right, we have, yo, Zentience with the big $100 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
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There's a reason sports leagues don't allow poaching.
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That's a good question.
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By the way, guys, actually, let me read it first.
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If Instagram gives her constant attention, DMs, money, and opportunities, the day she gets mad at him, she will look, consider said options.
Gents, never marry 30 foes like these.
Do you guys want to shoot you?
I'm so tired of that.
Do you want to shoot shots back at...
I don't think he deserves a response from us.
Oh, no.
That was nothing but hate.
What about you?
Anybody?
Oh, okay.
Only God can judge him.
Okay, only God can judge him.
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More DMs means more opportunity.
More opportunity means more engagement.
Typically, psychologically, promiscuity makes it more difficult for women to pair bond.
We gravitate toward inexperienced females.
That's a little questionable.
I don't know how I feel about that.
Why?
Well, if you want an inexperienced female, would you say, would you agree that that is because a man is insecure?
No.
No?
Why?
I would say it is.
Because what's the difference between a woman who has one body and two bodies?
You'd obviously prefer the one that has one body, right?
Sure.
Why?
That's because you don't want to be compared to.
You don't want the possibility of being compared to.
I agree.
No.
No, it's true, because you complained about baggage and all that.
You don't want the possibility of them comparing you to another person, of them comparing the things that another person did to them to you.
So that's why you want to, by default, be the best by being the only man in that woman's life.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, yeah, I mean, it would be a good idea.
That's the relationship that God should have with us.
So I can see it why they would want to have that with another woman.
Hold on.
What do you guys on the asteroid?
Can you put it simple?
Woo!
Okay.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
It's some music or something.
Nice.
Okay.
So.
So you want a girl who's inexperienced, yeah, Brian?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why?
Why do you want a girl who's inexperienced?
I can give you a couple reasons.
Yeah.
Give me a couple reasons.
Okay, it kind of comes back to body count, right?
So we don't want the town bicycle.
She's shaking her head.
But the guys can like slip with 100 guys.
Girls, actually, sorry.
Well, here's where I maybe differ from other men.
If a woman has the same exact standard, if a woman said, I wouldn't want to get with a guy who's slept with a lot of women, I have no problem with that whatsoever.
I think it happens to be the case that men care more about it than women.
But if a woman said, look, I don't want to date a player.
I don't want to date a guy that slept with 100 women.
That's totally fine.
I don't have a double standard there.
Me personally, body count does matter.
I'll give you a few reasons.
I mean, the.
Yeah, please.
Okay.
I care about that too, but I mean, you still need your experience because I think a lot of people also tend to maybe cheat later on when, like, let's say high school sweethearts, that you just have one person.
She's inexperienced enough.
Like, you need to go out there to explore, and it's okay.
I mean, I'm not saying that, like, I want a guy that has slept with 100 girls.
But obviously, I would want a guy who has, who is like me, who picks the girl and actually is sleeping with her because there is a connection, not just for the sake of having sex and making their body counts higher because they think it's nice to have a bigger person.
Now, here's a question for you: Would you prefer to be with a guy that's completely inexperienced and doesn't know how to really do anything?
You have to show him kind of how to do everything, or a guy that has a couple bodies, let's say 20 bodies, but he's experienced, he knows to do, he knows how to like, you know, pleasure you.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
Well, who would you?
20 bodies for sure.
20.
Okay, yeah.
So at least there's like a scale of levels.
For me, I feel like my body count for a girl is a little more acceptable.
I don't think I would choose the exactly, like if a girl has one less body, I wouldn't be like, oh, I have to go with the girl that has one less body, you know?
But a lot of guys are like, like Brian for sure would want to go with one less body.
I just want the reason.
Yeah, Brian, what is the reason?
There's quite a few.
Yeah, so what's the pair bond thing that he said?
Because I've heard about that.
Yeah.
Like rats.
Okay, so pair bonding, your ability to bond with someone to fall in love and to stay bonded, to fall in love with them.
If you've had 50 prior partners, your ability to bond with number 51, number 52, number 53, is significantly, severely, greatly diminished.
Greatly diminished.
You know, a lot of people say, oh, my first, second, third, like, you remember those first few loves, and then it's just kind of like you're going through the motions again.
And if you have had a lot of sexual partners, you de-link intimacy from sex.
Sex is just sport to you.
It's sport fucking.
You've removed the intimacy component to sex.
It's just short-term pleasure seeking.
I can agree with that.
It's not a guarantee.
The other thing is, is STDs.
And it's so interesting to me.
Like, let me ask you guys a question.
Would you be so quick to defend having a high body count if you caught a non-treatable sexually transmitted disease?
Would you, let's say you were promiscuous.
Oh, you're engaging in the hookup culture.
Boom.
So you don't have to.
You got HIV now.
I mean, I have sex with condoms.
Yeah.
Condoms.
Until we are in a relationship, get tests and the whole thing.
Tested.
Okay, most people don't get tested before they have sex with a person for the first time.
Oh, yeah, no, for the first time, like people just have sex.
Also, well, a condom wouldn't stop you from getting herpes, for example.
Yeah.
But you said untreatable, right?
You can't treat herpes.
I mean, well, it's for life.
You can take an antiviral medication, which reduces the severity and length of outbreaks or prevents them.
But so it's funny to me with the body count thing.
Everyone just wants to forget about sexually transmitted diseases.
Does anyone here want to get herpes or HIV?
No, we don't.
But HIV is preventative.
That doesn't sound fun.
Do you think people are always using condoms?
I would, personally, and I think a lot of people agree on that.
Especially girls agree on using condoms.
Bro, people be fucking without condoms.
Let me tell you that.
These two are looking at each other a little certain way.
I don't know.
I thought you said you were a single person.
If you're on birth control, you know.
I use them.
Okay, all right.
All right.
Okay.
What else?
Men, for evolutionary reasons, I know you hate that word.
Both of them.
She's like, don't date them if they think she says evolution.
Men are evolutionary, biologically hardwired to find promiscuous women repulsive.
And here's why.
If a woman sleeps, sorry, hold on, let me change this.
If a man has 10 wives and they're only sleeping with him and he gets all of them pregnant, everybody knows who the father is.
But if one woman has 10 husbands, who's the father?
And she's sleeping with all of them.
You don't know.
Now, in the past 40 years, we've developed DNA testing and we can determine with paternity testing who is the father, but that does not unwind.
It does not unravel hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
So a woman who is promiscuous, there's a paternity uncertainty there.
So do you understand?
Does that make sense?
Okay.
So like, no, I have a question to like clarify that for me, for me personally.
So what uncertainty?
I mean, if you like, if you like participate in hookup culture, you're not about having a kid.
So it doesn't matter.
Then I really don't get the uncertainty.
It's not an intellectual thing.
So you're just like, whatever.
If you have sex with someone, you could be doing that recreationally.
You have no intention of having a child, right?
However, that does not undo, it doesn't undo evolution.
Okay, so your uncertainty that you have, you say it's like you birth with it.
You were born with that uncertainty that you have.
It's biological.
It's evolutionary.
If you have sex with a woman, you always have that uncertainty.
Like every time.
No.
If a woman is promiscuous, you cannot guarantee.
If you have a kid with a woman and she's promiscuous, you cannot guarantee that the child is yours.
Yeah, but you are with a woman, and that's not about, like, getting kids, right?
So you're just like, no, I really don't get it.
Let me ask you a question.
Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
I don't really care about that.
I like this conversation.
This is more fun about this.
I don't like the other conversations.
It makes me sad.
But here's the thing.
You're an open-minded person.
I know that.
So why does it make you sad, though?
Because you guys are like fighting.
No, but this is a debate.
No, this is a debate.
We're cool with her.
No, it's cool.
This is the debate.
We're trying to get our opinion on it.
It's a short conversation.
That's funny.
Well, yeah, okay.
Well, let's talk about the height thing.
I guess there's a little more light on.
Okay, okay.
I'll say it.
I love a short conversation.
We're going to move on to the rest of the super chats.
But so you'll date it.
How tall are you?
I don't.
We don't have like this length.
What's the centimeters?
172.
That's 7.5.
Okay, we'll go around the table really.
We're going to go around the table really quick on this.
Tell us your height, and if you have a height preference for a guy, go ahead.
I'm five feet tall and I guess I don't care.
You don't care?
You can date a shorter person.
Obviously, you guys are catching me in these fallacies.
Obviously, if they're shorter than me, like, I don't think I can fuck on that.
I was about to say, I was like, shorter than five, that's like little person status.
That's like certified little person.
Everyone can agree with that.
I don't think that I would.
Personally.
You want to get with a little person.
Wait.
Okay, so your height, or I'll get with the dwarf.
Your height or taller.
You're so real for that.
I'd get with a dwarf.
If you guys know any dwarves, by the way, let me know.
You're such a king for that.
No, I don't think I care.
I guess.
What's your height and minimum height requirement for a guy?
5'7, and probably the guy has to be at least 5'9.
Okay, what about you?
I'm 5'7, right?
I don't really care.
I mean, you'll date a guy who's 5'4?
What is 5'4?
It's shorter than you.
5'4 is like literally a little bit taller than me.
160?
160?
He's this shorter than you.
Yeah, 160.
I mean, this shorter, I would like, I think, so you're like, oh, that's cute.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I mean, I get what you mean.
I wouldn't, like, if he's like a lot smaller than me, maybe not.
But like, I don't really care.
Why, though?
Why?
Why are you small?
You said maybe not.
Like, about like when he's smaller than me.
Yeah.
Have you hooked up?
Okay, of the guys that you've hooked up with, have they all been taller than you?
Yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
Okay, your turn.
5'7.
5'7.
Wait, wait, no, no, no.
Like, what do you mean by that?
Guys are that are taller than you, right?
Evolutionary.
Evolutionary, you look for a man that is, you know, that can protect you and your family.
So you seek guys.
I can tell you, I've never met a lot of guys that are smaller than me.
There's plenty of guys that could be seven?
Five, seven.
There's plenty of guys that could be shorter than 5'7.
Yeah, when they're like, yeah, I think she's 5'1.
5'9, to be honest.
No, no, I have platforms on.
She's from Germany.
Oh, for sure.
You're 100%.
If you've only gotten with guys that are taller than you and you're 5'8, 5'7.
But are guys in Germany like taller than Europe are way too small.
What are they feeding them?
It's like Russian nets, bro.
Russians are huge.
They are taller.
The Dutch are actually, I think, the tallest.
Yeah.
They're very tall.
So that makes sense, yeah.
Dutch are very tall.
Your height, minimum of.
5'7, and the same.
What about you?
I'm 5'6, I think, and they have to be taller.
Okay, Madison?
I'm 5'2, and they have to be taller.
How?
Just minimum height for the guy?
Minimum height for you guys.
Like, I don't know.
As tall as you?
Six feet?
I think 6 feet.
Okay, Madison.
I'm like 5'6.
6 feet hard to find.
Not in the Netherlands, though.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
But you're in America.
Not in the Netherlands.
So you see what we're trying to get at, though?
Evolution, you're so against evolution, but there's a reason.
I mean, it's cap.
She would date a guy who's short.
She had a minimum of five.
She had a minimum of.
I wouldn't date if he was like 5'4, like that.
Yeah, you see.
See, that's the point we're trying to get.
You're trying to argue evolution, but like 2023 doesn't change that we like.
I'm not sure if men I met in my life that are smaller than me.
That's all I can say.
But you just said you wouldn't date a guy that's shorter than you.
That's what I'm saying.
A lot of guys that are smaller than me have a lot of problems and insecurities about that.
What?
That's cool.
That is.
Now you're generalizing.
You're trying to literally generalize.
You were trying to get at me saying you're generalizing.
You have a point.
I'm generalizing at that point.
I shouldn't, okay.
The same way that generally speaking women are attracted to taller men.
because most of them are taller maybe where you're from but 5 8 here is pretty yes most the average uh female height in the united states is 5 4.
The average male height in the US is 5'9, 5'10.
Yes.
Most men are de facto, they're just already going to be taller than you.
So it's not a huge concern, but you ask most women, they're not going to want, would it be their preference to date a tall guy?
Yes, a lot of girls like tall guys, and a lot of women are gonna say, I don't wanna date a guy that's shorter than me.
In the same way that women are attracted to tall men, men are attracted to women with a low body count.
I think that's not the same thing.
There are a lot of, like, there's a huge difference between those two topics.
You were like comparing physical attributes with like personality, right?
Like with actions.
Kenny, friend.
Anyways, we're gonna move on.
We gotta get the rest of the super chats, guys.
You're killing me.
All right.
So, okay, hold on.
We have.
The fact of the matter is, no guy wants to have an argument and attitude problem when he walks through the door.
Combative women become tiresome after a while.
You're a woman of God, right?
Yes.
So, do you know there's this famous Bible verse?
I think it's Proverbs 21.19.
Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
Thoughts on that, none?
I think it would be better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and naggy husband.
So I'd agree, yeah.
I'd rather be alone than have a quarrelsome and naggy husband, yeah.
But are men typically known for nagging?
Yeah.
Okay.
I've met a lot of naggy men.
All right, we got Mangu King here with the $10 Super Chat.
Wanted to show some support, but this panel is pointless.
These are all kids with a vast generational gap with the topic of hand.
Oh, he's leaving.
Okay.
Sorry to see you leave.
Well, I mean, we got 30, we got 26.
We got the $10.
Whoop.
We got a none.
Got a none?
All right.
Thank you, man, for the super chat.
Chaz with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
It's easier for women and easy, regardless of what it is, has never and will never be respected in the same way as difficult.
Word?
What does it say?
It's easy.
The formatting's a bit funky on that one.
I agree.
It could be respected as difficult for you guys.
I'm not lying when they say it's harder to get on a girl.
Well, that's why the double standard kind of exists, because, like you said, it's very easy for women to get laid.
It's fairly difficult for men to get laid.
So who are we placing the blame on right now?
It's not really a blame game, but if we're going to have a conversation about, well, that it's a fact.
You're right.
It's unjustified that women, when they, or sorry, when men sleep with a lot of girls, it's like, good job.
When women sleep with a lot of guys, they're shamed for it.
So, yeah.
All right, we have Gus with the $10 Super Chat.
The world runs in generalities.
The exception doesn't make the rule.
To be successful, you have to acquire traits like assertiveness, competitive, non-agreeable.
Then she won't have time to hang.
Very masculine.
We already talked about that, I think.
Thank you, Gus, for the super chat.
Yeah, I mean, it's not, there's definitely women who are hustlers that they're still really feminine, but you will start to adapt certain traits that may not necessarily be conducive to attracting a guy.
Not always, but it can happen.
We got Debian gosh, thank you for the 10 dollars soup chat.
When a woman starts earning more than the man, she automatically loses attraction towards her partner.
Hypergamy kicks in immediately.
There's a lot to unpack there.
There's a lot to unpack there.
I'm not even familiar with that term.
Oh, I actually know what hypergamy is.
Do you want me to explain it to you?
Please do.
Okay, so picture we have a scale of 10 men and 10 women.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, all the way to 1.
Guys, girls.
Hypothetically, a 10 is supposed to go with a 10.
Man, 10, woman, 10.
9, men, woman, 9.
But hypergamy is there's crisscross.
There's women going for the higher ones, and the men at the bottom at 1 get nothing.
That's like, so these are the perfect scale of explaining all this.
Eric, can you pull up the chart?
Did you actually get that?
Because that makes me happy.
You're going to have to.
No, 100%.
Okay, I'm glad.
As soon as you started saying that, put two and two together.
Yeah, so the men down at the three and the ones, hypothetically, like they get nothing because the women are just by default going for higher.
It's usually with like income, like an income chart right there.
Usually, I'm not saying yeah, that could be part of it.
No, you could be, yeah, you could be right, Tristan.
It's usually like a preference thing, income thing.
I don't know.
Just what happens, I guess.
Eric, let me know when you have it.
There's hypergamy one and hypergamy two in infographics.
Yeah, here's the chart.
So I'm sorry, that's just really funny.
Yeah, so this is basically what she was articulating.
Literally, only 30% of men get anything.
Well, it's actually worse.
So this is kind of on the left, this is whom men would happily partner with.
On the right is whom women would happily partner with.
So what you basically have happening in the dating marketplace is 80% of women are chasing after the top 10, top 20% of men.
And we know this because most people, the way most people meet is online on dating apps.
That's the majority way people are meeting in today's day and age.
And they've released the statistics on this, and we know the stats on this.
Women only match with a very small percentage of men on dating apps.
And it's the top men that are getting almost all of the matches on dating apps.
So, yeah.
Do you understand that?
Because we were talking about the bigger pool and the smaller pool earlier.
Like, this is exactly that scale.
I didn't even know that that was a thing.
Yeah, but I don't know.
But like, for me, comes in mind why, because I see a lot of, like, for example, Solaberti women.
They're that beautiful vlog.
And they're date.
Yeah, dudes out of the Hollywood or whatever.
They're like just regular dudes.
Almost like a really strict line.
A lot of beautiful, really beautiful models date really attractive men.
Most of them date our other celebrities.
Yeah, that's true.
For the most part, because they're like at their level or higher.
So we're not talking about attractiveness anymore, but like about status.
Status.
I mean, status.
It's not even status.
It's about like their income.
Yeah, status is huge too, but like that's what we were talking about earlier.
I also see it with like a lot of girlfriends of mine and they also date men that I would say are not as pretty as them.
There's always gonna be exceptions, but there's always like also a general that is like a girlfriend, so like an owner.
A girlfriend, yeah, a single girlfriend is dating a guy.
Would you say she's as pretty as him or whatever?
I know that's too much to ask.
Oh, what do you mean?
Like, do I view my how do I view my girlfriend?
No, Like, if you, I mean, a friend that is okay, gotcha.
Not your girlfriend, obviously, but like a friend that is a girl in a relationship, or do you have a lot of friends that are girlfriends?
Yeah, I mean, there's there's exceptions.
I know, I know a girl that's dating a guy that like was the provider for the relationship.
He like wasn't, he wasn't like a big, he didn't have anything about attractiveness.
And attractiveness, yeah, yeah.
There's dudes that like just have the riz.
They got game and they they girl, they somehow pulled off a girl that's like a 10 and they're like a four.
Okay, but in general, that doesn't happen.
But maybe, Kitty, maybe we should talk about like how many guys you met that like actually do skincare and how many of your girlfriends who do like in skincare.
I think like woman takes more care of themselves in general.
I agree.
Like they're more worried about like beauty.
Well, I would say women are actually harsher judges of physical appearance than men are.
Could be.
Yeah.
But you guys have a lot more pressure for sure in that aspect.
That's why you guys take care of her probably a lot more.
Actually, it's harder for men to be physically attractive.
No, I mean like they have a lot more pressure between girls.
Obviously guys like thank you Tristan.
That's very true.
Yeah.
Yeah, between girls.
That's why they got the make well and they have makeup.
You know, that's why girls are like more inclined to like do the surgeries, you know, because they got to compete with all these girls who are now getting surgeries, bigger booze, bigger butts, you know?
While we're on the topic of surgeries, I think it's absolutely terrible that women get labia plasties.
I think it's unfortunate.
Is that to make your pussy fatter or smaller?
It's to they they cut the labia and I like Audis are cool.
I like how like I just think it's unfortunate.
That is horrible.
Yo, can we get all labia matter in the chat?
No, women are shamed though.
Women do get shamed.
For having a fat pussy.
Yes.
I've heard having a fat pussy is a good thing.
It is a good thing.
I think it's a good thing.
I think it's a great thing as well.
Do you have a...
That's funny.
Do you have a fat pussy?
What?
What the fuck?
You just ask me.
Well, I'm a male, so I know it's 2023.
I know things are cutting.
I know things are a little funky in 2023, but I'm a male, so I don't have a vagina, if that's what you're asking.
I do have a fat pussy.
I have a big fat cat.
Brian, stop.
Oh, my God.
This is a long soundbite.
Should we just look into each other's eyes?
Okay, nice.
Okay, so we got labi.
Yeah, I find it really sad that people are getting labia surgeries.
That's unfortunate.
Brian, yeah, someone used the roast beef and turkey bologna in the chat.
Hey, man.
Yo, all labia matter, no shaming.
How dare you?
Yeah, dickheads.
Okay.
That's horrible.
Because I don't think any of us in here are like, yeah, cut off your labias.
No one matters.
All labias matters.
All labia matters in the chat.
A-L-M.
A-L-M.
Yeah, well, I look like roast beef.
I don't think anyone should be shamed for their goods, you know, man or woman.
I agree, Brian.
That's a beautiful take.
On that topic, Greta Thunberg said something very mean to Andrew Tate.
But we know you're a slut for him.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, you're a dirty little slut for him.
Whoa.
You should talk about that, Brian.
Well, we'll react to a video, then we can talk about it.
Brian, are we really going to react to someone who's like in jail right now?
The Matrix.
Getting out tomorrow.
The Matrix attacked him.
I hope not.
You know what?
Innocent until proven guilty.
In Romania, though?
Well, he's going to get railroaded because Romania is probably corrupt.
Yo, El Romania in the chat.
Because, honestly, he has some criticisms for the U.S., but if he had been in the U.S., he would be out on bail right now, whereas he's, I don't think they have a bail system.
Did he actually go to Romania because he thinks the laws are not as strict in Romania as in the U.S.?
Didn't he say that?
It's pretty ironic, yeah.
He did say he wanted access to the corruption.
So he kind of put himself in that position.
I will say he made some inculpatory statements, some incriminating statements, certainly.
Okay, we got Coach Harry Wilmington thing for the $10 Super Chat.
Body Count Matters because almost any woman can just say, have me, and they'll get a hookup.
Men have to work to some kind of status to get more hookups.
That's why women get judged more.
That's right, Coach Harry.
Yeah, it's pretty easy for women to get laid.
I'm in quality versus quantity, right?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
Yeah, but some women.
Sure, we can have a lot, but like, sure, it's easier.
Yeah, but some women don't even care.
They're just like, oh, screw body count.
I like that.
Yeah, screw body count.
I'm just going to be celibate.
A lot of people say that.
No, no, they say screw body count.
They're just like, oh, I'm going to rack them up.
Oh, okay.
I guess that's their life choice.
Yeah.
It's their choice, but it's not a choice.
It's not a woman I would go for ever.
Well, would you apply the same standards to yourself?
Yeah, I was also quality.
I didn't just like rack up a whole bunch of bodies.
Okay.
If that's a standard that you apply to yourself, then I think it's fair that you apply it to other people.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
I guess my issue would be like men like Andrew Tate, who are like supposedly running through girls, caring about body count.
They don't really apply that to themselves.
That's kind of what I'm saying.
Well, a lot of high-value men, a lot of men that make a lot of money like that, they feel they have the, I don't know, I guess they don't have the say, but they usually just don't really care.
That's why Andrew Tate just doesn't care.
He's just like, all right, if a girl wants to be here, like he's going to provide for her, but if she doesn't want to be here, she needs to get out.
I'm not saying I agree with him, but that's how he feels it.
Well, also, men and women tend to have a different sexual strategy.
And again, to like bring it, to bring it back.
To bring it back to evolution, like men, we want to spread the seed.
Because we could get a new woman pregnant multiple times a day if we had access.
Whereas a woman, you can only get pregnant once in that last nine months.
So that kind of explains for evolutionary reasons also why women tend to be more selective about who they partner with.
And like, also evolutionary, we try to find someone who's going to like create it, raise the baby away, too.
Yeah, I love how we're talking about evolution now.
How it's finally valid to talk about it.
My favorite topic.
I mean, it's like you can't deny evolution.
You can't say it's 2023 and things have changed.
No, I don't deny evolution.
I think it's just not the best argument.
If you like, say, because if you say nature and like evolution, we also see a lot of bad things happen to evolutionary.
Like evolutionary, we can also say men can rape women.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened, evolutionary.
And like.
We don't have an evolutionary desire.
Men don't have an evolutionary desire to do that.
It's just a fucked up people who like do that.
Okay, moving on, we got the super chat here.
Come honored with the $10 Super Chat.
Men age like wine.
Chicks age like milk.
His words, not mine.
Okay.
We have Lawrence Bullock.
Thank you for the $20 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Because sex is easy to get for women when women have a lot of different partners, it's not respected.
I think we were pretty much just talking about that.
Thank you for the big $20 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Leonardo NiCaprio, Canadian $10.
Thank you, man.
Every time German Girl Talks, I think of that final scene in Downfall where Bruno Gans character looks at the ground and says to his generals, The war is lost, De Krieg ist Verlor.
Can you just, can you, how do you say that?
De Krieg esfalon.
Ooh, wow.
Nice.
Okay.
Just curious, like, oh, never mind.
Okay.
Blitzkrieg, what are your thoughts on that?
I don't know that.
Oh, okay.
Never mind.
Moving on.
Actually, wait, I have something.
It's World War I. Where's the hat?
It's right there.
Okay.
I love costumes.
This is a World War I helmet.
Okay, it's not World War II.
Okay, so it's safe, kind of.
It's safe.
It's safe.
How much does someone have to super chat for you to wear this?
Oh, my God.
It'll really bring out the color of your eyes, by the way.
Oh, I think you're absolutely right.
Correct.
No, no, no.
It's World War I.
It's a pickelhaba.
I know.
Pickelhauba is like a colour.
Pickelhaba?
How do you say it?
Pickelhauba.
Guys, how much do they have to super chat for you to wear this?
How much do you want?
$69.
How about that?
Any $69?
I'd say $100.
$100?
Yeah.
I want my words.
All right.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay.
I really want this access, probably I don't want to wear it.
Well, that was World War II.
I don't think I really want to wear it.
It's too late.
You've already.
It's a legally binding contract.
You've made the offer.
If someone pays you, you kind of otherwise.
He pays me?
No, no, they pay the show.
Then you kind of.
Just offered for me, so like if they pay me, obviously.
I want to wear the veil.
Didn't some Germans go?
Okay, never mind.
Pause.
Pause.
All right, we have Mr. K with the $10 Super Chat.
Is that Adolph Meowler's concubine?
What is that?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
We're going to move on.
Miss Cement with the $10 Super Chat.
30 years old who is a virgin or 22 with higher partners because it's very common in immigrant communities to wait till marriage.
However, both them and their families never accept a guy with a past.
So is this directed at the guys asking this?
30 years old who's a virgin or 22?
I'd probably take the 30-year-old.
I think he's asking the girls.
I think that's directed at the guys.
Because he's saying it's very common in immigrant communities to wait till marriage.
30 years old who's a virgin.
I guess we can all answer that.
Yeah, we can all wait till the moment.
It is common for immigrant families to withhold that.
So I understand that.
It doesn't matter what age you lose your virginity at.
Does not matter.
All right.
Yo, we have Zentience here.
Big $50 Soup Chat.
Thank you, man.
Grubs, me, boss.
Boom!
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Successful men, low 3FOs.
Women are a representation of the man in social settings.
If the woman is a 304, her husband's peers know he lacks good judgment and thus he can't be trusted.
He loses business opportunities.
He only gets embarrassment.
Good point, Zentien.
Zentien's dropping some gems, some knowledge.
If I had a hoe, I wouldn't show them off either.
You go, girl.
You go.
Okay.
We have Lawrence Bullock with the subsequent $20 Soup Chat.
Hey, thank you, man.
A man earns money for the security of his family.
A woman earns money for her own security.
What's that saying?
It's something like our money.
Thank you.
His money is our money.
My money is my money.
Wait.
No, no, no.
His money, his money is our money.
Her money is her money.
I think that's the saying, something like that.
All right, we have Zentience with another.
Dude, thank you, man, so much for the support.
Hold up.
Grabs me, but thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
As a man in medicine, I can tell these 304s about pair bonding.
If she's been with five plus men, her ability to pair bond is broken.
Why would any high-value man claim a 304 who indiscriminately gave her body away?
She wouldn't value him if she doesn't value herself.
Yeah, you can't value anyone if you don't value yourself.
I agree with that part.
Also, I just okay.
That was an aggressive stand-up.
She's coming back.
Someone mentioned something about someone who's a virgin or who hasn't had a lot of experience when they get married.
There's a temptation to cheat.
Actually, the studies show that if you've only had your partner, the person you're married to, that's the only person you've had sex with, those are actually the relationships and marriages that are the least likely to end in divorce.
Whereas as you start getting higher and higher, the more sexual partners you've had, pre-marital sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of divorce.
Wouldn't you think that person that like has that only been their only partner and they're married, they would have a lot more temptations though?
No.
They've never experienced anyone else.
Because I feel like that is a lot more prone to have cheating in that relationship.
I don't know.
We were talking about it earlier.
If they've never been with anyone else and that there have been no relationship with this one person, don't you feel that they'd be more prone to like cheating?
I think so.
I don't know.
I feel like in general, we should have experiences.
Not that you have to go out there and slip around.
305 out.
But have different, like, but also understand for the people that only have had one partner because then they don't know what's out there.
Then they don't need the need.
But then also sometimes it's a society, right?
Like people that are around you, they're like, wow, you've been just with this one person.
Why don't we go somewhere?
Like, it's you're also your values.
Yeah.
Okay, we have a question here from Stiffler.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
We're gonna start with none.
Go ahead.
None.
Seven and a half.
Ten.
Clean.
They're surreal for that.
I'm a very confident person.
I'd say maybe a seven.
Maybe an eight and a half.
I would say seven.
Seven.
Eight and a half.
Six.
Six point nine on a good day.
Okay, thank you.
Great chase of number.
Okay.
So you're a 10.
I feel confident enough to say it.
You know, like, I don't, like, I could be a 10 for somebody, or it could be an A. Like, everybody has different their looks.
I feel like I'm confident enough.
Like, I got reached a point that I'm confident no matter what people say.
I'm not going to make me feel like bad.
Like, I'm not.
That's just.
No, that's good.
I don't think anyone should be like, you know, get criticism for viewing themselves as a 10.
Yeah.
I will give credit.
I will give credit to the panel because oftentimes we get every single girl says 10 girls to 10.
So everyone.
I know all the time.
All the time.
All the time.
But actually, I want to ask you two questions.
So you're both, how long have you guys been in the US?
Because you're both from Brazil.
Yeah.
Right.
What would you say are some differences when it comes to dating between Brazil and the US?
Oh my God.
So favorite topic.
I feel like in Brazil.
I have to get up for a sec, but you can go ahead.
I feel like in Brazil people are more passionate.
He asked how long we've been here.
I've been 11 years here.
Oh, I've been like for three years here.
Three years.
Going to four now.
So what was the difference between relationships over there and here?
I feel like in Brazil, people are more passionate.
So I will get this complaint a lot.
Like when I kiss people, they're like, oh my god, you kiss so strongly, but it's not like strong.
It's like passionate.
It was more passionate.
They got more spice in the Brazilian men.
Yes, I think so.
And then basically, like, I remember loving and very affectionate.
You know, like in Brazil, when we say hi, we give kisses.
And then maybe here it's always like, calm, like, how about like the types of guys, though?
Have they been like the same ethnicity?
Because that also has a lot to do with it, obviously.
You know, has it been the same ethnicity, guys?
I'm sure there were Brazilian men that you're talking about, right?
Yeah.
There's probably not too many Brazilian men here that you've hooked up with or I guess kissed.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Like I think, yeah, my ex-husband was American.
And I remember the first time that he was like, oh, like, give me a kiss.
And then I wasn't.
He's from here.
You met him here?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, like, no, we met in Brazil.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
But then, like, he asked me to kiss him, and I was like, making out with him.
And he's like, no, it's just a kiss.
So, like, in Brazil, we don't have like when we say a kiss, it's like a kiss if you're not afraid of the city.
The culture is different.
100%.
The culture is a lot different.
Yeah.
So, like, you're never, like, in Brazil, with someone like, oh, can you give me a kiss?
You're never going to do that.
Because that's like what you do with your, like, no, I know what you mean.
I'm from Costa Rica, so that culture is kind of similar.
There's a lot more passion there.
Here, obviously, in America, it's not really like that.
Latinos, you know, they're a little more passionate with their kisses.
But could you, you would say the same thing, though?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, same thing.
I guess it just has to do with like the culture.
Here in America, it's a little different.
No, I guess that whole passionate part that you're talking about, a lot more common down there in Brazil.
Yeah.
There are more differences, right?
I mean, culturally, it's just basically mostly culture.
It's different.
Did you say values?
So, like, talking with their eyes.
I think, I think, like, I don't know.
I think in sex, like, when I think about sex, men in Brazil, they take more care of the woman's pleasure.
That's at least how I felt.
Like, I think in the US, people sometimes, some people sometimes can be more self-centered and like more focused on their own pleasure.
They're just trying to get the nut in and they don't care about the girl's pleasure.
Yeah, and then in Brazil, I feel like more often men are more like, at least from my experiences, men were more focused on me.
Or like, at least you have a balance, like, okay, now is your turn, now is my turn.
I mean, my philosophy is the girl comes first.
Yeah, that's my philosophy.
That's great.
Well, I think also if you're just like hooking up, or it's just going to be like a fling or a one-night stand, a lot of guys probably are not going to be concerned.
I don't know if those were your experiences, but like probably in more casual sexual encounters, men are less, probably less interested in that and pleasing the girl because it's like yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Like even in casual like Brazilian guys, I feel like they are more like careful about it.
Like here in the US, I felt it.
Like when it's casual, it's just like, okay, that's me.
Like come here and do your stuff.
But like in Brazil, there is like this transactional thing.
Like I'm doing, I'm giving you pleasure and you're going to give me pleasure and we're both going to be happy.
I guess Brazilian men are just disappointed in the passionate.
Anyways, okay, let's get these other soup chats here.
Did we do this one?
Did we do this one?
Yeah, we did.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, we're.
Yeah, we did.
Sorry, guys, I'm trying to get caught up.
I think this was the last one from Zentience.
We got Frankie Kay with the $10 soup chat.
Most men prefer to know they fathered the offspring they're expected to nurture.
Low body count equals less emotional trauma slash ex-boyfriend comparisons and expectations.
We want a woman we can share new experiences with.
Same for a woman then.
don't women want experienced men though we want experienced men in bed when they know how to do things but like we don't want it like trauma because oh okay Yeah.
We got Chaz.
Yo, thank you for the subsequent $10 soup chat.
I see the one cent there too, by the way.
I think that's three cents total.
So big spender here.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Would they date a man they found out brought them to the same restaurant as 20 other women?
Men place a value on body count.
If you've been around simply for pleasure, it's harder for us to feel special.
Yeah, we can ask this.
So let's say you're on a date with a guy and you he goes to the bathroom, right?
And the waiter comes up to you and he's like, hey, he's brought like 30 other girls here the past six months.
Maybe, oh no, the waiter's a chick and is looking out for you or whatever.
Doesn't say anything bad about him, but just says, you're number 31 at this restaurant.
Are you going to feel a certain type of way about that?
Yes.
I think it really depends on the date then.
Is the date like focused and just like having sex or is the date focused on being like in a relationship?
It's like some if they want to like if both of the partners have the goal to like keep going becoming a couple something like that or if it's just about like sex.
I think I feel like if the waiter comes up to me, yeah, that you're the 31st, I feel like it's probably only for sex, the date.
And maybe men feel that same way when it comes to body count.
Because a promiscuous woman is less likely...
But in hookup culture, wouldn't you say that there can be both men and women that only want sex?
Sure.
But that's exactly what we talk about.
So if a guy just wants to hook up, just wants to have sex, body count is not going to be particularly, it's not going to be as important.
Although I think if you were to ask most guys, even for a one-night stand, would you rather get with a girl who's been with 50 guys or get with a girl who's a virgin?
Which, I mean, that's probably exceedingly rare that a girl who's a virgin is going to do a one-night stand with you.
But it's possible.
But most men are going to pick the virgin, even for a one-night stand.
Yeah.
I wouldn't pick the guy that well, men and women are different, though.
Yeah.
Men and women are different.
So.
The virgin would not know what to do.
I mean, I guess they don't really have to do much.
Girls just don't really have to do much.
Girls don't really, when it comes to sex.
Yeah.
I mean, you don't really.
Sorry, what GigaChad's name?
GigaChad?
Yeah.
GigaChad is.
Eric, can you Google a photo of GigaChad?
Is like Chad the guys with a big drawline?
I'm going to pull it up.
I'm going to pull it up.
You're smart.
You're smart.
You know.
Let me know when you have that, Eric.
Let me get these super chats while we're.
Okay, wait.
Wait.
Do you have it?
It might take some Gus with the $10 Super Chat.
This whole bullshit narrative about women not making money back in the day needs to stop.
The first woman millionaire was Madam C.J. Walker in 1915, a black woman.
even woman, voted to not want to vote.
Oh, that's...
I think he should check his facts.
Source, maybe.
You can go ahead and pull it up, Eric.
I don't know about that.
Yeah, this is GigaChad.
Eric, can you mouse wheel control up?
Yeah, control mouse wheels.
Wait.
Yeah, there you go.
There's no one.
Scroll down a bit.
This is a 10 in my eyes.
GigaChad.
Boom.
Look at those.
How's this?
What's this TV show with Timmy Turner called?
With those fairies.
Timmy Turner?
The fairies?
We don't use that terminal.
You mean the green one and the pink one?
Yeah, the pink and the green one.
Fairy old parents?
Something like that.
Fairly odd parents.
Yeah.
There's like this one fairy that's like really has like a huge drawline.
He reminds me of that.
He's like a Giga fairy.
Giga's age.
Eric, can you do center zoom?
What is that?
Listen.
The only Giga Chad in my book is Greg Plitt, helping you stay fit.
Can we get some RIPs in the chat for Greg Plitt?
Unfortunately.
That's insane.
Whoa.
RIP for Ziz, bro.
RIP for Ziz.
Yo, settle down there.
Jesus.
Wait, how does Ziz get up here?
What the fuck?
What that chat?
Wait, what?
How does Ziz even get one?
Where did he get his own?
Oh, he's the homie.
Ziz.
Yo, hey, dude, I'm DMing Chest Bra.
Do you know Chesbra?
Yeah, I do.
He's coming to California.
Oh, no.
So I might try to get him on the podcast.
Oh, that'll be late.
Yeah.
All right.
Yo, we got Bruce BC with the, I believe that's Filipino Pesos.
500.
Can anyone confirm in chat?
Yo, thank you for the 500 Filipino Ps. Pesos, appreciate it, man.
A simple answer to why we care if our lady partner makes more is because we want to feel appreciated for a lifetime of hard work.
The appreciation makes us feel amazing from accomplishments that are usually ignored.
That's a good point.
Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 super chat.
When a woman feels some type of way when a fact statement is said, she uses sign language.
Shame, insults, guilt need to be right because the shoe fits.
That's why Danun wanted to change subject.
Confirm or deny?
Oh, he's talking about when you guys were fighting and it made me sad.
I don't remember what we were talking about.
I just didn't want to talk about it anymore.
That's me right now.
We were talking about evolution.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I just thought you guys were never going to agree.
So I didn't really like to watch that.
I feel like I got my point through.
I already got a point through.
Yo, we got reckless gaming with the Canadian $10.
A tweet came out October 11th that the US big tech put pressure on Romanian government to lock Tate up whether he was guilty or innocent by end of 2022, beginning of 2023.
This was all part of the Matrix plan.
Oh, wow.
Conspiracy theories.
That's gonna be interesting.
I think Tate's getting railroaded.
I think they're railroading him.
Apparently, two of the alleged victims came out and said, yeah, we were doing webcam stuff for him.
Like, we, what?
Like, they literally straight up said, no, he did not sex traffic us.
And he's yeah, they literally, they went on an interview.
They were two of the named victims, apparently, went on Romanian TV or something, and I don't know if it was Romanian, whatever, said, no, we were engaged in business with him.
We were doing webcam for him.
It was all anyways, he was like, anyways, whatever.
Who knows what the full story is?
Let's let the details come out.
Innocent until proven guilty.
All right, we have Shane M with the $10 Super Chat.
Men seek status.
Have a young, attractive, loyal women that other men have not, men have not and cannot have is what men want.
Any response to this?
I think.
To the Bane?
Men makes sense.
I just spoke Portuguese, but okay.
How are you?
Yeah, that's all I know.
Okay.
Te do Bene?
Yeah.
What does it mean?
It means how are you?
Or means like everything is right.
Yeah, the only words in German that I know are Lufthansa.
I know there's Luftwagon.
Luftwaffe.
Nine.
Luftwaffe.
The Luftwaffe.
Yeah.
It's a gun.
No, it's the Air Force, I think, during the German Air Force during World War II.
Luftwaffe?
Luftwaffe.
It was like the winning sequence.
Huh?
Wait, what?
Isn't it like a German military tactic or something?
Oh, well, Blitzkrieg was the lightning war.
Oh, yeah.
How is it like ich libdich?
Ich Liebedich.
Ich Liebedich.
Ich Libdich.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Thank you.
Yo, Dubayan Gosh, thank you for the $10 soup chat, man.
I appreciate it.
Miss Cement, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
I was asking the guys, LOL, also wanted to give perspective to the conversation regarding me with high body count.
I come from an Islamic faith and it's sinful.
Haram.
Haram.
For both.
By the way, I am a new sub.
Hey, welcome.
Thank you for subbing.
Thank you for all the super chats.
Really appreciate it.
Miss Cement.
Thank you.
Ricardo Fosto, thank you for the root.
Does anyone know what currency this is?
Hey ice.
Hey, Ice.
What?
Hey ice.
Brazilian.
The Brazilian.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Right.
Hey, Ice.
Hey, Ice.
Hay Ice Dollar?
No.
But why is there a dollar sign?
It's just like a money sign.
Oh, okay.
I'm from Brazil.
I'm from Brazil, and I can confirm we're all GigaChads.
Isn't like, aren't they, isn't there basically January 6th happening in Brazil?
Like, didn't they storm the capital of Brazil or something?
Yeah, I saw that on the news.
Anyways, all right, we have Mr. K with the $10 Super Chat.
Would they date the revered stud muffin known as Robert Lewandowski, the OG GigaChad?
I see what you did there, Mr. K. Thank you.
Would you guys date Robert Lundowski?
Actually, Eric, can you pull up?
Can you pull up, just Google Robert Lewandowski?
Lewandowski, my bad.
We'll ask the girls if they would date him.
Wow.
Guys, first off, thank you so much for all the super chats.
I feel like it really directed the conversation tonight.
We got through all of the ones that have come in thus far.
I want to finally actually get into some of my conversation topics here.
Let me know.
Yeah, this is Robert Lewandowski, guys.
Would you date him, yes or no?
It's not my type.
No, no, no.
Kitty.
Wait.
Cat?
I would eat that up in a heartbeat.
You know, they say that.
Let's stay celebrate.
Apparently, people think I look like him.
Brian, what are you doing after this?
How you doing?
How you doing?
Okay.
Let's see, we got a...
Here, I'll just get it while we have it.
Yo, Miss Saman, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
I mean, men, not me, men with high body count.
It was a typo.
Hey, no worries.
I think we got the gist of it.
But hey, thank you for the subsequent $10 soup chat.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
We got through a lot.
Thank you, Eric, for that.
Yo, shout out to Tosa.
Thank you, Jord Fro, for the follow.
Thank you, Lon, for the follow.
The prophet for the follow.
K7, thank you for the follow.
Brian, what does haram mean?
Haram?
Yeah, what does that mean?
Haram!
Yeah, what is that?
Haram.
It's like.
It's like.
Come on, user words, Brian.
What does it mean?
It's forbidden.
Something that's forbidden.
But it's in their specific culture.
Islamic law.
It's like, I think you say, if you're sinful, you're haram.
It's like sin or blasphemy.
It's a haram.
Haram.
Yeah.
Okay, so I know you wanted to talk about polygamous relationships, right?
Or are you over that?
You told me before the show that you were keen to talk about polygamous relationships or open relationships, right?
That doesn't seem like a fun conversation with you now.
Well, I'm happy to engage in a conversation about it.
I mean, we can talk about it.
What do you think about it?
What do I think about them?
Well, I mean, I think people are free to have whatever legal consulting relationships they so choose.
Do I think that it is, for example, do I think that a polygamous relationship would be a good framework for raising children?
I don't.
Some people might disagree with me, but I don't think that that would be good for children.
Not because of necessarily any abuse, but I just I don't think that that's I I think society civilization functions best with monogamy.
I agree.
So we live in a society.
I agree.
Wow, that was deep.
Okay.
I'm a very deep person, yeah now.
You are a nun and a woman of God.
So yeah.
What do you guys think about it?
I don't really have like everybody is everybody can do whatever they want.
Right, it's not a fun conversation.
That's why I got divorced.
Oh, wait, did you guys have an open relationship?
Actually, we were like monogamically married and then he figured out that he was no monogamous, like halfway with the marriage.
Yo, he asked you, he's just like, would you be open to have an open relationship?
No, he's like, hey, I'm like, he started like getting ge I mean, I'm not gonna talk too much about him, but like he was he was not himself, he was like kind of depressed and I was like, hey, what is going on?
And he's like, I think I'm feeling more and more trapped.
So I feel and like and then I was like, you know, go to therapy, figure out about yourself and then he figured out that he was like non-monogamous.
So I'm super afraid of having regrets in my life.
So I was like, you know what?
I never had an open relationship before.
So maybe before just pulling the plug, let's try it.
And we did try for six months, but like it was too much for me.
So you guys, for a period of six months, you opened up the relationship for both of you?
Yeah.
So were you also dating other guys?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's when we also like, so we were moving houses too.
So that's when like I decided to move.
And like because we were in different cities, I was like, okay, we're in different cities.
So maybe we can try like that because then I'm not going to feel weird about it.
Like to go Trader Joe's and meet someone you hook up with there.
Hell no.
I could never.
I could never.
I could never be an open relationship.
It was hard.
It was hard.
But then like, then how like if I divorced him before trying the open relationship?
I mean, honestly, I think you're routed trying it was like the best you could do.
So honestly, props to you.
A lot of women would just be like, what the hell did you just ask me?
No, we're done.
Like divorce right there.
But like we both loved each other so much.
There was just like this thing that was different between us.
That I was like, if I never try it, I'm going to be forever like, oh, wow.
Thinking about it, I tried.
And what if I liked it?
That's.
I didn't.
Six months, though?
You held out.
It was a lot.
Damn.
Damn.
She was married.
She wanted to commit to him.
Yeah.
That's still.
You would do an open relationship like that?
If I really loved someone.
If I really loved someone and then that's what they wanted and they thought that's what was best for us, maybe it could work out.
At some point, like I felt that it was just what he needed.
Like I saw his energy drained and I was like, okay, he's really unhappy.
So what happened in those six months?
Was he a lot happier?
Was he like better?
Yeah, so the thing is that I was afraid of opening the relationship because I was like, you know, I'm going to fall in love with someone else and I'm going to get not interested in him anymore.
That was your biggest worry?
I'd be like, oh, he's fucking another girl while I'm married with him, you know?
But for him, it was like how he was saying sex was just sport at some point.
So he could separate a lot.
Like he's like, I love you and like I'm devoted to you, but like I can't have sex with other people.
Like I can't have a chat.
So for him it was different.
But then yeah, I think I'm talking too much about him.
But like for me, I kind of understood this part when I had it.
I was like, okay, like I'm going out with all those guys, but my husband is still the bar.
Like he's still right there.
Do you know how many girls he smashed while you guys were still together?
No.
So you get no.
Do you have a sense?
Like, was it like three girls a week or what?
Like, was your ex-husband, was he a fucking Chad?
Like a Giga Chad?
What does it mean?
A Giga Chad.
Like, I know him, but like, what does it mean?
Just like good looking, he has game.
Like, can he get girls?
She married him.
Okay.
Can I marry him?
He's like gorgeous.
He's like handsome.
He's super charming.
He's.
But you guys would never talk about the other people that would be on the side.
We talked about for like during the open relationship.
talk about but like I didn't want to talk that much it was just like no it's obviously it's not an easy topic to talk about with you you know the person you're married with like hey yeah I just had sex with this one girl Oh my god, no, I could never.
I mean, from the guy's perspective, the moment a girl even tries to bring up open relationship, it's a wrap.
Yeah.
Goodbye.
Yeah.
It's done.
I don't know if it's different for girls, but if my girlfriend comes to me and says, Brian, I want to open up the relationship, you're already cheating or you want to fuck other guys, we're done.
i had a boyfriend and he came up with this idea for sure but like he he's one of my soulmates in life like he's still you loved him I loved him, but like we are also like so the same person, like with different hairs basically, and like monogamous, non-monogamous.
But we are the same person.
Like Kitty met him.
Like we have just so much chemistry.
We like the same thing.
We have the same energy level.
We like to hang out with the same people.
So when you are at that level of compatibility, why would you not try if you feel like someone needs it, you know?
And that's why I tried.
But then that's also like when we both realized that he was growing up out of the relationship.
He was happy where he was and I wasn't.
So that's when I was like, okay, we should get divorced.
Word?
Rip, can we get some RIPs in the chat for Eric?
Can you close the door for us?
Here, let me just, while he does that, let me just get these.
Eric, are you able to highlight that membership?
Oh, this is a, okay, it's a renewal.
Yo, XDM, thank you for the renewed membership, man.
Appreciate it.
Shalom Brian, I haven't been on chat because I've been looking for entertain me.
I'll be back soon.
You should give us a new year fit check, girls.
We can do a fit check.
I think we got, what is the trigger for that?
Fit check, there's a fit chat trigger.
It's in the description.
It's pricey.
Okay, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Good to see you back.
Find to entertain me for me.
Okay.
We have Chaz with the $20 Soup Chat.
Thank you, man, for the big $20 Soup Chat.
If any of the panel wants a relationship in the future, what preliminary action are they taking to avoid being a part of the predicted 40% of women that will be single by that time?
Do you mean by the time they're 45?
Morgan Stanley study predicts bleak future.
Yeah, there's some sort of study that says by the year 2030, something like, I don't know what, I forgot the age range, but something like majority of women will be single without children in their 40s or something like that.
I don't know.
So.
Yeah.
Good times.
Good times.
Okay, so what I want to do is I want to open it up to you guys.
Is there something dating related that you guys want to get off your chest?
Maybe question that you have or a frustrating, a frustration with dating?
Anything advice?
So you ask for advice, something you want to get off your chest that frustrates you with dating.
Actually, we'll start over here with Madison.
Or we could do Tristan.
I got most of it all off my chest, honestly.
I feel like we got a good conversation going.
Well, everything.
Madison, anything?
No?
Yes?
No.
Okay, what about you?
Anything?
Okay.
I feel like I hate when someone asks you on a date on Tuesday, like, oh, let's hang out on Sunday.
And then you're like, sure.
And then you never talk again.
Like ghosting?
Yeah.
Not like ghosting because then on Sunday they're like, hey, what time should I pick you up?
And I was like, wait, are you still there?
Like, you know, like, just don't engage in the conversation.
Oh, yeah.
And like, if you don't want to get to know me through text, why am I going to leave my house, dress up, go with you to a movie theater to get to know you?
I know.
Yeah.
I know what you mean.
Yeah, I really would love if like more texting before going on a date.
Only because I have like really huge anxiety before dates.
I'm just like, oh, what should I say?
I don't know them.
I don't really know what to talk about.
So I actually love texting before going on a date.
Yeah, me too.
Makes me feel more secure.
I like a phone call before a date.
That's cute.
Yeah.
That's cute.
It's good because how someone conducts themselves over text message, it's not always a great feel because people can be real clever when they're texting you and they have time to think about a response.
But conversationally in person, it could be totally different.
Also, if you call the person beforehand, it's sort of, one, it reduces the risk of getting catfish.
So if I call a girl and it's a dude's voice, that's probably not a chick.
And then the other thing...
What happened in your dating life?
Luckily, not yet.
Luckily, fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
The other thing is, is that you can, instead of going through with the time and commitment of actually meeting up in person, yes, it does take extra time to have the phone call, but you can feel each other out having the phone call.
So maybe after the phone call, you realize, whatever it may be, maybe you didn't feel a connection over the phone or you didn't like the way they spoke, their voice even.
Maybe you detected, hmm, I felt a little weird about them or whatever.
You can opt out for both men and women.
And I've definitely had phone calls where I've spoken to the girl and after the phone call, I was like, hey, didn't really feel it.
You know what?
No harm, no foul.
Let's just not meet up for a date.
And I have just like one friend that we were going on a date and we call each other and we used to talk for hours on the phone.
And then when the actual date happened, the physical chemistry wasn't there.
And now we became great friends.
Oh, you did that?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's too much.
I think, I mean, when I say have a phone call, I think 30 minutes.
No, but that's because we like to talk to each other so much and we were texting so much that we were just like, okay, let's call each other all the time.
We were both calling.
Do you think it was because you guys maybe were both nervous because you're like, whoa, I really like this person.
And then it took so long for you to finally meet in person.
There was a lot of pressure on both of you to, and maybe it just created some awkwardness.
No, I think it's just like we met on the apps on like Wednesday and then until like Saturday night, we had like four days in between and started talking so much.
But then like when we were together, you know, like the kiss was weird and we were like, okay, let's be friends and just talk.
Sure, okay.
Okay.
Anything for you, something, advice you want to ask about a dating situation or maybe there's something frustrating, something that frustrates you about dating?
I don't know, not really.
I just like, because you asked them about Brazilian guys and like how it's different.
And I actually like kind of, I think hookup culture here in America is a lot different.
It's like a lot more hookups, more not really a thing in Europe, I think.
Really?
I think it, I mean, obviously you can't.
I don't know those Dutch girls.
I mean, it's a thing.
Those Dutch girls.
It's way bigger here.
Yeah, it's way bigger here.
It's like if you go on a date, isn't it expected from you to have sex in the first place?
Wait, have you guys mainly stayed in Santa Barbara, though?
Yeah.
Oh.
It's probably.
Is it Santa Barbara?
I mean, we live next to Ivy.
We're in IV right now.
Santa Barbara is pretty degenerate.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it could be Santa Barbara.
I only wear in Wayne.
I mean, Southern California is pretty bad.
If you go to LA, it's the same thing.
Miami's pretty bad, too.
Have you guys been to Miami?
We were just there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I have also been there.
We were just there last week?
Yeah.
We came back last Thursday.
How was it?
So much fun.
So, okay, you're saying that in Germany there's not as much of a hookup culture, whereas here when you came to the U.S., it is much more common.
And I think that's because the United States is leading the world into the pit, the downfall into degeneracy.
That's what I think.
Degeneracy?
Degeneracy.
Well, we have a nun here.
Maybe she can explain.
What's up?
I think she's comatose.
What?
What?
Degeneracy.
Degeneracy.
Explain.
About what?
About the hookup culture.
Oh, it's fully degenerate.
Fully degenerate.
But just throw it away.
Get it out of my face.
I don't want to see it.
Get out of here.
It's just going downhill.
Okay.
Falling apart.
Okay.
What about you?
Any dating frustrations?
Men are pissing you off in some way that you want to rant about?
Lack of effort.
Lack of effort.
Interesting.
Can you tell us a bit more about that?
I think I've been always dating for the past 10 years, and I got off of my relationship last year.
And it was just so frustrating to actually meet people that wanted something serious.
Everybody just like treats you as an option, sadly.
Or even not having the basic needs of being a man.
The basic needs of being a man?
I don't know, like opening the car door.
I mean, like, I saw one time I went on a date, and the guy did open the door for me.
I was like, wow, I was impressed.
And I told my roommate, she's like, Kitty, you shouldn't be impressed.
It's like the minimum that she do.
I don't go out with guys that don't do that, but the majority don't do it.
Like little acts of things.
Flowers.
Flowers?
Flowers.
That's an example.
Hey, we're in 2023.
You don't send flowers?
Fuck no.
You don't get flowers?
I've never sent a girl flowers ever.
Is this why you're single?
Probably.
But why?
Why is it not?
It's not sending flowers.
It's about thinking about the person.
You can only be a gentleman with the ladies.
It's like you go to the grocery store.
Imagine, like, you never trust me.
Well, that's.
The girl feels so special when you let a guy flowers before.
Give me flowers.
That's not about flowers.
It's about the act of thinking about that person and caring about her.
Showing them that you care.
It's another like five minutes, like, hey, I was thinking about you.
I want flowers.
What do guys don't get this treatment?
We're all about equality, right?
So why?
Depends on who you date.
I think that most guys won't get flowers until they die.
So very good to give her.
That's very sad.
I was actually about to say that.
That's very sad.
I find that very sad.
I don't like that.
It's deeply sad.
It's hauntingly sad.
I've given many guys flowers before.
I like to do it.
Well, you like to see the gentleman.
You're also a nun and an outlier and celibate.
I have TV.
I've given two flowers.
Okay.
Given flowers.
But I'm a romantic brace again.
Do guys want flowers though?
What do they want broken?
It'd be a nice water.
It would be a nice flow.
Some food.
Food is good.
Food.
It tastes better.
Door dash.
Cooking, right?
So acts of service.
That's your love language.
Yeah, everybody has different dogs.
I feel like every gender has like, I mean, every gender, I guess, in 2023.
The genders have like roles, you know, like the woman, I guess, could cook for the man, the man can bring her flowers, you know.
Men, obviously, opening the door.
You said that there was not that many men that opened the door for you, though.
Okay, but were those hookups or were those like dudes they were trying to date?
No, my ex-boyfriends, none were like that.
Oh my god.
Open the door for a girl?
Yeah.
Doesn't have to be all the time.
I'm just gonna have that word.
That is the same.
And it's like an example of being open the door for a girl.
Alex.
No, you are hilarious.
Like your reaction to that.
Why that is so silly?
Open the door.
Maybe do that the next door.
Why would I call that to that harpy?
The next day.
Like, sing so crazy.
Calling the next day?
Yeah.
Like, no, I'm just making fun of you because you are like so dull about.
Extra the day after.
Yeah, calling the day after.
Like, those women?
I guess here's my thing, right?
We've sort of touched on this at different points in the show.
We're talking about, oh, we're in 2023, equality, men and women are equal, all this stuff, right?
But why is there this expectation on men to perform all these things?
No, like, don't you expect anything from a woman?
Like, what do you think is nice for you to receive from a woman?
It would be nice, but women don't generally.
Like, they don't really want to do that.
Women forget about gender roles.
Women forget about gender roles when it comes to men.
Like, when it's like on their end, they're like, oh, equality and everything.
But then when it's like, oh, the men has to do.
The men has to pay for the check.
Tristan, give us an example.
Yeah, like, like, the men has usually, like, when we argued earlier, or I guess debated, right?
We were talking about how the men usually is the provider and usually is the one paying for the check, you know?
And she said, well, I pay for the check, but like, usually the men is expected to pay for the check, you know?
It's those gender roles that she was trying to say.
It doesn't like matter, it's equal, you know?
But like, in reality, generally, the men usually has to pay.
The woman is expected to cook and to clean it up.
Yeah, I mean, that's the quality of it.
You know, there's like they have their general roles, but like you can't compare a lot of things.
That's just like, it's just the general roles.
What are romantic things that you like from a woman?
Like, you know, women aren't romantic.
Yeah, but like, what Brazilians are not like.
Cooking you.
Brazilians are romantic.
You know what?
Maybe I should date a Brazilian.
A Brazilian woman.
Like, Kit and I were talking about how we send letters for like the people that we date.
Let me tell you, let me clarify my statement.
Women receive the romance.
Men are the romantics.
So why do you date women then?
I'm heterosexual.
Yeah, but like you say women are not romantic.
I just wanted to ask you what do you get from a gender?
We don't need the romanticism.
That's the thing.
Don't you both like have like this like chemistry which is like romantic.
You like a girl's flirt, you romantic.
Yeah.
I personally like being the romantic.
I don't really need any romanticism.
I don't need flowers brought to me.
But you know, like if I was dating a girl, like her cooking me a meal, you know, would be nice.
You know, that's that's their form of like.
What's doing for the partner?
Nice things doing for the partner.
I think that's a really good thing, good base for a relationship.
Would you like if the girl like bought you flowers or sends you letters?
Or would you like to get a little bit of a drink?
I want a girl to simp for me, but it doesn't mean I'm going to get it.
You want a girl to do what?
To simp.
Simp what is it?
I would love if a girl simped for me.
But they don't.
Falling for them.
No, no, like doing the most.
Doing the most.
Brian, why don't you think they do that for you?
They don't do it for the vast majority of men.
Brian, you're lying.
You're a good-looking dude.
Like, a girl would easily simp for you.
Why do you think they're not simping?
I've had girls simp for me, but it's rare.
It's super rare.
Did you value them?
Those who simped for you?
Do I want?
Like, did you give your most to them too?
You didn't want her flowers or open her doors.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
That is why when you answer your own question.
Exactly.
How did I answer my own questions?
Brian, you're putting out all these standards and you want a girl to simp for you.
You have all these qualities, and then you throw it out the window by openly saying stuff like that.
I'm basically being very openly derogatory.
What do you mean?
You're like, why would I open a door for her?
Why would I get flowers for her?
Do you think that's attractive to a girl?
I'm not trying to min-max my dating.
Well, you do want to simp.
You want something.
You can't act like you don't want anything.
Who wants a midget with Libya?
I want a 4-11 beef criticism.
You're so real for that.
I do.
I mean, anyways, I do have a preference for it, but hold on.
Okay, so let's just get back to the, so what was the, how was it derogatory?
Or what was the.
I guess you're just openly being negative.
You don't see us going like, why would I pay for a man?
We have all said, yeah, of course, we'll split if they want to split.
We're all being very nice.
You're being very derogatory.
Like, why would I pay for her?
Why would I open the door for her?
You want to simply?
Yeah, you want someone to do all that for you, but you're not willing to put it out.
I'm saying what I would want ideally.
It would be wonderful if a girl simped for me, but it's not, it doesn't happen in actuality.
But like, you say that so many people in this world.
Like, how you say that some of them did, right?
Like, they did simp for people.
A little bit, but then there was headaches also.
But that's another.
Do you self-sabotage?
And then how did you treat that?
Yeah, Brian, do you self-sabotage?
Brian, this is a therapy session.
This is a therapy session.
This is a therapy session.
I'm not saying it.
Wait, okay, so you guys have thrown a couple different conversational topics at me right now.
So I'm just trying to get caught up here.
So you guys don't like that I'm grimaced when someone said, open the door for a woman.
It's not exactly open a door.
It's an example of being a gentleman.
But women aren't ladies.
Or, for example, it's just that if you add that, it's just.
Well, the girl you're taking on a date, I mean, I would take a lady to the date.
I wouldn't be taking no respect for you.
We live in California.
California is a failed society.
It's fucking women.
Oh, my God.
Look at you.
Brian, let it out.
Come on, let it out.
Let it out.
Let the hate out.
Come on.
It's not about hate.
It's not about hate.
Come on, let it out.
No, I'm not.
It's not hate.
I'm just pragmatic and realistic.
I'd say so too.
I'm a pragmatist.
Most of the women I encounter are.
Okay.
They're not ladies.
Like, okay, if I meet a girl on a dating app, more likely than not, she's talking to multiple guys at the same time.
She's sleeping with at least one, two, or three other guys.
So I guess my kind of like I'm on a dating app.
But that's how most people meet now.
So you are probably doing the same thing.
I'm not.
I don't have time yet.
You gotta be one of those guys.
All the girls are like that, too.
Don't hate the player.
Hate the game.
Wow.
Most of the guys are doing the same thing.
They have a side, like they're talking with a bunch of people.
Be for real right now.
Brian, be pragmatic right now.
Hold on.
You said most men, that's not true.
The top 10, top 20% of men can do that.
Most men are so starved for female attention, for sex, for intimacy, for anything, they really don't have.
I think you have to understand the amount of options that even an average woman has is would boggle the mind.
We can actually pull up statistics on this.
An average woman has more options than a really good-looking guy.
Really good-looking dude.
Your DMs, your dating apps, going to the club.
Come on.
No.
Don't look at me.
No, I'm not even laughing about that.
I'm listening to you.
I'm listening.
Yeah, I don't know why I'm a giggly goose.
Look.
My experience and the experience of many men has been that in today's day and age, in 2022, the days of dating one person at a time are gone.
Can you find it?
Yes.
Is it the majority?
No.
If I'm going on a date with a girl, and most girls are not necessarily going to be upfront with this, I'm going into any given date, assuming she's sleeping with at least one other guy.
A lot of women are never truly single.
There's some guy in the picture.
There's some guy they're sleeping with.
Not all women, not all women, but I would say the majority of women have some.
The thing is, it's your mindset.
I'm not going to rescue you.
It's your mindset.
I didn't say anything.
I'm not simping.
I'm not even giving into them.
I was laughing at my mom.
No one said anything.
Nobody said anything.
I was laughing about a comment about the fake nun turning him on.
But no, I know what you're trying to say, but if I'm saying, if a lot of guys have that mindset, I know what you're saying.
But they're like, oh, she's talking to a lot of guys.
But if you go in there with that mindset, you're literally going to be thinking that.
You're going to self-sabotage.
Yeah.
If you think you're an ugly girl, everyone's going to think you're an ugly girl.
Hold on.
So you're saying.
You just got to go in there, you're going to giga chat, and you're like, she's going to choose me over every other guy.
But here's the thing.
And also, if there's a bunch of...
Sorry, go on.
You're saying she's going to choose me over all the other guys.
How far into the relationship is she going to cut off all those options?
People are constantly in situationships.
I like, here's the thing.
I don't even want it to get started if she's sleeping with another guy.
I don't want to kiss you.
I don't want to go on dates with you.
I don't want anything from you if you're sleeping with another guy.
That's probably asking a lot in 2023, but maybe I'm a gentleman.
I don't know.
No, no, I don't know.
Brian, I completely agree with you.
Like, that's a totally valid point to have.
No, that is.
And just to be clear, women can feel the exact same way.
If a woman says, he's a player, he's got three other girls right now.
Do I really want to try to bring you a bunch of people?
You got to bring up the question, though.
Am I going to just get caught in a situation ship with him and then we're going to fuck for six months and then he's on to the next one?
But then you'll be in the, they'll be playing the assumption game because you'll be assuming all these things.
So what you got to do is, I know, but you have to be straight up afront with them and just be like, all right, like, what is this?
Like, are you fucking around with other dudes?
And yeah, they may lie to you, but like, huh?
First off, if.
I've been asked that question.
I've been straight up.
Communication is the key.
If you ask, here's the thing.
My sense is, if I were to ask a girl straight up, like before we even meet on a first date, I think it should be fine.
I think it should be fine to ask, but most girls are probably going to have an issue with it.
If I say, by the way, are you fucking someone else right now?
Even if she's not, like, or even if she is, when she might lie, she's going to be like, that's none of your fucking business.
You gotta ask what the person wants because like maybe the person's like looking for a relationship, then probably they're not fucking around, you know?
But then if you are like, okay, I'm open to dating meeting other people, obviously.
But I know there's some fucked up girls out there that date like several guys at the same time and they're playing them.
You know, she's just like, all right, which one do I pick?
You know, to a certain point, and like they're just in the dark about it.
So like, if you, I feel like there's a certain point, this could be a good question, a certain point where like you have to decide, all right, how long into this like talking stage, how many dates you have to go on before you're just like, all right, like, are we for real?
Are we going to like be just us talking or are you talking to other people, you know?
And you have to ask the question.
Obviously, eventually.
Yeah, you can't just play the assumption and be like, being the same, like talk about it, obviously.
Communication.
Because if not, they're just going to be like, oh, they haven't asked me.
It's okay if I talk to other guys.
This isn't serious, you know?
Ryan, I know what you mean, man.
I'm on your side.
I know what you mean, but like, you have to ask.
You have to ask him.
They're going to be not going to be honest.
Wow.
Well, are you directing your towards women or towards the dating?
That's the trauma.
We came back.
We came back to this and that.
No, I'm not angry.
I'm just realistic.
I see, it's like I see the matrix.
I can see what's happening in the dating marketplace, and I'm not some guy that's going to go on a date with a girl and assume she's not sleeping with another guy or talking to multiple other guys.
Is that her fault, or is that dating culture's fault?
People have accountability, people have agency.
It's her fault and it's both because you have a gray area.
Well, there's a culture that promotes hooking up casual sex.
Date a bunch of people.
So the society, the culture promotes it, but also as an individual, on an individual level, you have agency.
So despite the degeneracy of Western society, you as an individual, as a man or woman, could still say, you know what?
I'm not going to fuck a new guy.
Two new guys every single weekend.
You can make that choice.
So you have agency and you have accountability.
I'm only going to date one guy at a time.
You don't have, look, people are free to do whatever they want.
But for me personally, I don't know.
The thought of just the thought.
Okay, you're putting your time in a girl is probably putting in time with other guys at the same time.
I'm too busy to be dating three girls at a time, to be sleeping.
Also, I just don't want the headache too.
Yeah, no, but you're going to let that stop you from talking to one girl that you like because you're like, oh, she's probably talking to another guy.
You can't go into a relationship thinking, all right, we went on one date or we talked for like a couple hours, she should cut off every guy right then and there.
Yeah.
You know, like.
She just shouldn't be.
This is going to be a hot take.
She just shouldn't be talking to any other guys.
But other guys, the thing is, like, they've already been conversating.
Hold on, let me just say this.
In fact, I think every single woman should just, before they meet me, for at least a period of three years, should be celibate.
Okay, that's very important.
How long are you celibate?
I think they're not going to find a girl that you're not going to be able to do that.
Before you've even met me, I think you should have been sucked.
Good luck on this.
Okay, I'm exaggerating.
I'm exaggerating.
I'm exaggerating.
I'm joking.
Okay, I've been married before, right?
And I kind of see how much you had to have in common to make it work.
And even though I had a lot in common, even like this, it didn't work.
So I feel like that's why people right now are talking to more people.
Because if you only talk to one person, then this person It's not like exactly like what you needed.
You're gonna take forever to find your partner.
So, like, if you are just chatting with people, like, what is the better?
Like, if you're talking to people for sure, like, sex is another level of things, but like, just talking to people to get to know them, and then you're like, Okay, this guy is really nice, let's go on a date with him.
And then, and then you see if it works.
I think Brian thinks like they're talking to different dudes, sending news to like every single one of them.
But, like, realistically, in my shoes, I the way I view it, the reason I'm able to view it that way, you know, is because I have been in that spot where I was talking to like several girls, but like not in a certain way to like date them, you know.
But once, you know, one specific girl, let's say I was interested in them.
Obviously, I wouldn't stop talking to other people until like that was a serious, it became a serious relationship.
So, it has to be that point where it's like, okay, this is serious.
And then, from that point on, that's when you should cut someone off.
I shouldn't automatically cut every girl off from talking to me because this one girl, like well, so there's degrees to it, right?
So, if you're just talking, like, there's no sex, yeah.
Well, one degree, whereas whereas, like, let's say she's hooking up with like two other dudes, but kind of like she's not sure, and then there's like other guys that are like circling into the carousel, the picture.
I mean, I know some girls like that, they have they have a roster.
It's really, it's honestly really not that hard to take a bit of time just be talking to one person at a time.
It's not, I don't think it's that hard.
It's a short story.
Like, when I met, there was this guy that I was dating that we met on Tinder.
We were in different cities, and then we started talking two months before he was like going to the city that we were going to meet.
And then, by one week, like talking to him on Tinder, I was so in love with him that I didn't talk to anyone else, even though we only met in person after two weeks.
And that's how it should be.
But, realistically, a lot of girls will continue to talk to other dudes.
Yes, because I was like emotionally connected with him.
So, like, if like here, you invited like random, like one, two, three, four, five girls.
Like, one has this story.
Like, why for you is so tough to like believe that there are girls there that can do that for you, you know?
There are girls that will only talk to you, even well, it's rare, even from the get-go, from the very beginning, they're only talking to you.
That's super rare, super rare.
We live in a day and age where there's situationships, there's hookups, there's friends with benefits.
Most of the time, someone has someone in the picture already in the Western world.
A lot of girls, a lot of girls are like really never truly single.
There's some guy in the picture, but like, if that's all you need, it's it's rare because like that's how love is, right?
Like, it's so if love was easy, if it was easy to find your soulmate, you would find like everybody would be together with someone.
But, like, love is hard.
So, if that's what you need from a girl, and like it's gonna be rare and it's gonna be special when you find it, and that's gonna be your person, you know.
Don't you want to fight for it?
Like, fight for love?
No, no, I don't really want to fight.
I don't want to fight.
It's just like rare.
It's rare to find what you want and what you need.
But, okay, this all stemmed from me kind of like tweaking about opening a car door for a girl.
And I guess the point I'm trying to make is, I don't first off, guys who do the nice things Men are realizing that when we do the right thing, when we're nice, when we buy you flowers, when we open the car door, when we're gentlemen, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't.
A guy can do all the right things, all the nice things.
And then women don't reward that sort of behavior.
If a guy bought you flowers on the first date, girls are going to be like, this guy's a fucking clown.
You are generalizing, right?
Because the girl that does what you want, they are rare.
So if you ever treat all girls in this bar, like this low bar level that you were saying, like, I'm not going to buy her flowers because she's never going to reward me for that.
Then you are never going to find the rare girl because she's like, okay, he doesn't give me a flow.
Why does it need to be a reward?
Like, why are you giving already thinking about the expectation?
You give because that's your person.
That's your personality.
I know plenty of girls that go back to their girlfriends.
They're like, oh my God, yeah, like you brought me flowers.
Like, he opened my door.
Like, she was excited about it, about the one guy that stop simping.
I'm not even a simp.
I'm not even a simp guy.
I'm not saying you're a simp, but you're simping for them.
Come on.
I am not.
I've been debating with them the whole podcast.
No, I don't think he is.
You're a king.
I don't even want to take the whole king.
I don't want to need that praise.
So you've heard girls say, oh, he got me flowers on the first date.
Yeah, yeah.
Did they fuck?
Did they fuck?
No.
Yeah, so they're going to curve the guy.
They're going to make that guy wait.
And then the guy who's a dickhead, who's an asshole, who's a jerk, who's a bad person.
And he's straight up and just straight to the point.
He gets in their pants faster.
Yeah, that's true.
So guys are starting to see this, and we're starting to say, hold on.
We're doing the right things.
And then the dickheads over here get in there.
They're the jerks, the assholes, the bad boys.
They're the ones getting laid.
And that's how we're waking up.
Yeah, but that's how we end up with a culture where every guy's just a dick.
I love a good boy.
I've been through that same.
I've been through that same scenario, but I just had to like, honestly, I'm not going to let them change my morals because some other dude that was a dickhead got in there.
I was like, fuck her.
I'll literally find someone way better than that.
And there for sure is girls that literally, I'm not even being a sim.
I'm literally going to get so much hate from this chat because I know the audience that I'm speaking to right now.
I'm going to hear the take the red pill, bro.
Let me ask you a question.
Why is there a trope of women being attracted to bad boys?
It's not an invention.
You could be a gentleman and I feel like a not a dickhead, but like be a nice, I guess, bad boy, if you want to say it, you know.
Okay, so I'll kind of put a bow on this.
So, and I'll get the super chats in a sec here, guys.
So, I guess the reason why I don't want to pay for a girl's meal, I don't want to open the door for her, I don't want to do all these things.
Why are you looking at me like that?
What's up?
No, I'm just like saying the least of everything you're doing.
Guys aren't entitled to pay for the meal.
I just want a girl to simp for you, so guys aren't entitled to pay for the meal.
I agree with that.
Unless you do a take her out on the date, then maybe like if you're asking her to take on the date, that's the only argument that I would like to do.
When she's my girlfriend, then I'll pay for a trip to what, like, that's fine, I'll pay.
But you gotta make an impression.
Fuck no.
You gotta make an impression.
You gotta be different than all the other, like, dickhead guys.
Yo, paying for the first date, it's not.
No, I'm not saying, no, I'm saying you gotta make an impression, like, opening the door.
I'm not saying bring her flowers on the first date.
I'm not even saying that.
But, like, I don't think I've ever done that on the first date, bring flowers.
Brazilian girls hate me right now.
I'm getting hated on by the chat, bro.
About taking me.
Here's an example I've often given to sort of illustrate my point for why I'm hesitant to want to do some of the gentleman type things.
Opening the car door, like doing all these gestures, paying for the date, all this stuff.
I still adhere to my traditional gender rules in the sense of, I'm going to take initiative.
I'm going to lead.
I'm going to set up the date.
I'm going to plan the date.
I'm going to be the one, you know, making the steps to make that happen, doing the follow-up, et cetera.
But when it comes to the actual date, getting on the date, as far as paying for the date goes, here's my issue.
I don't want to pay for a girl's meal, and then she gives me an ass out at the end of the date.
Oh, it was really nice.
It was nice.
Gives me an ass out hug, you know, a side hug or whatever.
We went to a dinner, whatever.
She gets a to-go bag.
She takes the to-go bag to the guy's house who she's sleeping with.
Did you see them do this?
That sucks.
She takes the to-go bag to the guy's house who she's sleeping with, who, by the way, never took her out on the first date.
And it was always just, what are you doing?
Come over because he's exceptionally attractive or whatever.
She has some interest in him.
She gives him the food that you paid for, and then she fucks him.
Holy shit, Brian, that is so sad.
That is so sad.
That happens to you.
Did that happen to you?
Oh.
No.
Because I'm a G and I don't pay for girls' meals.
Oh, my God.
Is this like a story that they made up in their head or did this happen?
That's an extreme example.
That's an extreme example.
Yeah, that's really good.
I can see that happening.
but they're definitely how many girls Okay, but then you're just out with the wrong girl, but not.
Yeah, Brian, that seems like a dissolute lack of judgment.
Talk to them.
If they're going to do that, then they're going to do that.
If you take them out, then that's your choice to take them out.
You can tell when somebody will be taking advantage of you.
The way I see it, a lot of guys, and I'm not even trying to get at you, Brian, but a lot of guys will put up a shield, you know, to not be hurt, not be taken advantage of like that, because a lot of guys don't get that ROI.
Like someone will say in the comments, the return of investment.
No, return of investment.
So like, you're treating this woman right, you're opening your door right, you're doing everything right.
And then it doesn't fucking matter because the guy doing half the shit you are is getting further than you, you know?
And that's why like a lot of guys put that shield up and then they're just like, you know what?
I'm not going to try anymore.
I'm just going to do what they're doing.
And then hopefully that works.
But the thing is, what I'm trying to say, which might make me a simp or whatever, I will not change my character because of that girl.
Literally, I'll just be like, okay, screw her.
Like, go, like, you're literally not even worth my time, you know?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
There's nothing wrong with them.
It's like the people they go after.
Like, there's nothing wrong with being a nice guy, and there's nothing wrong with dating how you want to date.
No, and I've been through that phase where I was like, you know what?
I'm going to be the dick.
I'm going to be like, and I, trust me, I've been through that phase where I just did not give a shit.
And I was just like, why?
What am I doing?
Because it's exactly like what we were saying.
Like, those guys who are getting a lot of girls and doing low effort, like, what kind of girls are those who affect that kind of behavior?
Exactly.
It's like who you're attracting.
There are some very unassuming women who are sleeping with other men while they're dating you.
Like, you wouldn't expect it.
Like, it's not always what.
I'm talking for Maddie.
Okay.
Why is that?
Madison say something in all women.
Sorry, what?
What was the?
Uh, what was the question?
I forgot, I forgot to, I forgot to.
God damn it.
Tristan, trying to make Maddie talk.
We're trying to say that, like the guys who does low effort get like more girls.
But those girls are also like girls who accept this kind of behavior.
So you know, like the type, there's how many girls act like that.
Do you know of how many girls act like what?
Oh, you said something like you're describing that whole like fantasy.
You described like how many girls actually do that viewpoint.
Most most, do most girls do that?
No I, I wouldn't.
I would say that specific example where she brings the doggy bag is well, it's not extreme, but it's rare.
But I mean, what might be less extreme is you go out on a date with a girl.
You pay for everything and but she's also.
She has a guy that she's hooking up with.
She might not bring the food that you paid for to him so he can eat the food that you paid for, but women are sleeping with multiple men and going on dates.
What about men that are paying, expecting already that the girl has to sleep with during the first date?
Women can object to that just as equally as I object to it.
In fact, women can.
If you can say that, then why are you mad?
Yeah, what do you mean?
If you can say that women can object to that?
Because why would a woman want to sleep with someone where they know that the relationship is transactional like, why would you want to sleep with someone if they're like buying you dinner for the sake of sleeping with you?
No, hold on, that's not.
That's not what i'm saying.
It's not about paying for the dinner and oh, I paid for your dinner.
I'm owed sex.
That's not it I. There's no expectation of paying for the dinner.
I deserve sex it's.
I am adhering to my traditional gender rule.
I am, I am paying for you, I am, i'm using resources and you're sleeping with somebody else.
It's it.
To me, it's just like it's a disrespect thing after the first date though, I mean, I personally wouldn't.
I don't think any.
Brian, if you think that the majority of people are like sleeping with people, then how could you expect that, that someone is like celibate and then how could you get mad at them?
If you expect for most people to be celibate or most people to be sleeping with people.
I feel like, do you think everyone's sleeping with everyone?
Then why would you expect that?
I'm not mad.
I accept reality.
But because i'm aware of the reality, i'm saying that i'm not going to put myself in a position where I feel like i'm getting played.
So if I pay for a girl and she's hooking up with another guy, I feel like i'm kind of getting played.
I feel like you are seeing woman as an object.
Like let's use analogies like you are paying for an uber, expecting that you are buying a car.
Like you are going on the first date, you're not buying the girl.
Like you cannot say, okay, we are going on these first date.
No, that's not what he means.
He means like he's investing into like the time.
He's putting down, he's paying for the meal, so he's expecting you to like, I don't know.
Be a traditional woman.
Yeah, to be a traditional woman, only be talking about.
If you're not being a traditional man, then why would you expect women to be traditional?
No, that's why he's saying that he wouldn't.
He wouldn't be a traditional man because he doesn't expect women to be traditional.
But you want a traditional woman, right?
Yeah, then maybe.
Oh, yeah, maybe if you go mark ourselves as a traditional woman.
Traditional in the sense that she's not fucking other guys.
It's crazy to me that it's a big ask.
It's a big ask to be trying to pursue someone and not want someone you're pursuing who could potentially be your future girlfriend, who could potentially be your future wife, who could be the future mother of your children.
It's not crazy to be like, hmm, yeah, when we met, she was fucking three other guys.
Sorry if that's a shocking standard or boundary or preference for a guy to have.
But I don't know.
But why do you need to know?
Like, I prefer not to know about ignorance is bliss.
Yeah.
I prefer not to know.
I like that saying.
I don't go out on first dates and I'm like, hey, how many people are you fucking around right now?
Well, the first date, I feel like the first date is the introduction to that person.
You're getting to know what they are.
I don't feel like that's why I don't think the first date should be even.
The check should be split.
Should be split because you are getting to know each other.
You don't even really know.
After that, then that from that introduction date right there, that's where you can like, all right, you don't have, like, if we're going to keep going forward, you know, like, you shouldn't be fucking around with other guys.
You could be.
But like, by that first date, I don't think the girl should automatically be like, oh, I'm expecting from the first moment that I'm the one.
It's like, I think you really have to go through that introduction phase.
And then obviously.
I feel by the second date, that's when shit should be settled.
I don't think you should be talking really to any other guys in a bad way.
I don't know what you think.
You want it by the first date, huh?
She shouldn't be talking to anyone.
Which is clearly possible.
She literally was talking to a guy and she was so invested to it that she was like, oh, I'm not talking to anyone else.
So it's possible.
It's not very common, but especially here in California.
Not at all.
You're like in the worst place for that.
I mean, but like I was like completely in love and then like I could have gone through your road, your like path and say, oh, he must be fucking everyone.
So I'm going to fuck everyone too.
But like, you know, like I didn't need it.
I was so in love with him that I was like, okay, I don't need anyone else because I really believe in this.
So, you know, like you shouldn't read girls from your past experiences or you can find because then you're never going to find this rare girl that you were like trying to.
Or if you find her, you're going to mistreat her or like not treat her.
No, like I'm saying like you're not going to give her flowers.
Oh, but that's not even mistreating.
I don't feel like that.
Yeah, sorry, I used the wrong.
You know what?
Here's the thing.
I actually think that the girl who isn't, first off, and it's not, I don't think it's necessarily a given to the girl who is more traditional in the sense that she's only dates one person at a time.
She's not talking to a whole bunch of dudes.
She's not getting ran through, doesn't have a high body count, whatever.
It's not necessarily a given that she expects those more traditional gender roles.
It could be the case.
But how do I. You alright?
You guys are breaking me.
You're wearing me down here.
You're wearing me down.
You have four million subscribers.
Like, girls, if you are not hooking up with anyone, like, hit Brian on DMs, please, because women don't DM guys, but that's another issue.
He's searching for it.
Brian, why would you say that?
You're gonna make it your reality.
Yeah, yeah.
Stop saying that.
Say you get DMs all the time.
Yeah, I gotta find them.
No, you need to be optimistic.
You think you gotta have BDE, bro.
Yeah, you need to have faith in yourself and in the world.
BDE.
There's so much.
Okay, I could talk about the BDE thing, but that's a whole nother.
Okay.
Me, just to respond to that.
Me thinking in my mind, trying to manifest girls DMing me.
girls are not gonna dm me you cannot manifest that into your life just because you because you don't believe in it so No.
I don't know about you.
Okay.
I'm Danny DeVito, but not famous.
I want girls to just DM me.
I want Victoria's Secret models to just DM me all the time.
Is that going to happen?
Yeah, you are choosing a very specific category of girls, right?
Like who you are.
You are choosing as much as you were saying that girls only choose those top three guys.
Like, you're doing the same.
You're like, okay, I'm like...
I agree.
This guy and I want only hot supermodels.
You want hot supermodels or you want someone nice who'll sing for you when he's going to like give you flowers.
Both.
You want both.
Okay, but women don't DM average guys.
Whereas average women.
That's so true.
That is true.
Average guys.
I don't think you understand how attention starved the average guy is.
Average guys get almost no matches on dating apps.
They get no DMs.
They go to a club.
Nobody talks to them.
Average girl goes to the club.
Couple guys going to go talk to her.
I feel for them.
I feel for them.
That's really tragic.
But if you go around and like, let's say that we go around, we're like, oh, I'm so fucking ugly.
I'm so fat.
Everyone's going to treat you like you're a fat, ugly girl.
But if you're like, I'm pretty, I'm confident.
People are like, oh, she has something.
I've seen many ugly girls who have confidence of a pretty girl.
She gets treated like a pretty girl.
Yeah, if you go around being like, girls, don't DM me.
It's like, do you think a girl wants to DM you because you're like, nobody DMs me?
Like, do you think you're putting yourself in an attractive position?
I'm not.
Be for real right now, Brian.
He's not sad that girls are not DMing you.
I'm not sad.
I know you're standing up for the dudes that are sad about it, but be for real.
Like, do you think someone wants to slide into your DMs if you're complaining about it?
No, but I'm reporting the facts.
I accept reality.
Women don't initiate like that.
Do some women occasionally DM a guy?
Yes.
But it's so fucking rare.
It's super rare.
As a guy, the only way you're going to be getting any girls attention is either one, you're going to be sending DMs, which like, Brian, I'm not sure if you're out there sending DMs to go.
Hey, I don't DM girls.
Exactly.
So you have to be honestly in a social area where you have the confidence to walk up to a girl and talk to her.
That's literally it.
That's the only way.
Girls get guys walking up to them all the time, but does that work sometimes?
When a guy walks up to you and talks to you and he actually is confident and is able to hold the conversation with you, it works sometimes, right?
Of course.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, that's the best way you're going to go with it.
Unfortunately, the fact we're not getting chased by girls, we don't get easy like DMs.
So what's the solution to that?
And there is no solution.
There's not going to be girls that just slide in guys' DMs.
Guys are just going to have to.
No, you just have to have the confidence to walk up to a girl and be put yourself in social areas, I guess.
You don't have to go chasing after girls, like go to bars or anything.
But I guess you were saying you're not in college anymore.
So, like, you're not able to start these conversations with, like, random girls on a daily basis.
Yeah, college is a great opportunity to organically meet people.
But once you get into your career.
You have to, like, go out of your way.
I don't, like, a lot of people will sometimes meet at work.
Eric, what's up, dude?
How you doing?
Like, that's it.
No.
You hollering on it.
Eric's a handsome dude, right?
But I mean, you know, we're both environment that you're in.
We're different guys.
If you're not making connections with people in social areas or at work, then it's just like, it's hard.
You're in that hard spot where there's no girls at your work, girls aren't DMing you, and you're not really going out.
So it's like.
Here, let me try to play it out like this.
You are 18, right?
You said you've gotten some DMs, right?
Like, I got into that at DMs.
You've gotten DMs from guys, right?
Yeah.
Like, give us a range.
How many DMs have you gotten from guys?
I don't know.
Just 50, 100.
Could be 50.
On Instagram.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're 18, right?
Yeah.
I'm 33.
I've been DM'd two times by girls.
I don't know.
I feel really bad for you.
No, you don't need to feel bad.
No, you don't need to.
It's not a negative bad to do.
It's not a negative.
Brian, what are we supposed to say to that?
Like, what do you want us to say to them?
No, no, no.
I'm trying to make a point.
Maybe you guys don't realize, but guys don't get hit up like that.
Yeah, I feel for them.
I know.
I know.
It's just hard to be a girl.
No, I'm not asking for sympathy.
I'm not asking for pity.
I'm not giving pity.
I just understand.
What I'm trying to articulate is that it's very different between men and women.
Yeah.
It's very different.
It is.
Yeah.
And if it's really different, and that's a system that we live in, then that's not really a gender problem fault.
It's not really individually women's fault for causing that.
It's not men's fault for creating that system.
It's like just who uphold that.
Maybe you're being disruptive, which is good, and I'm sorry that it's not working out, but maybe like soon it will.
But I'm not, you shouldn't really blame girls for not hitting guys.
No, no, I'm not blaming.
You're just stating the fact that it's not somebody's fault.
It's not anybody's fault.
But women, okay, women don't need to DM guys for starters because you already have an abundance of options of the guys who are DMing you.
Women typically tend to pick of the men that pursue them, they tend to pick that way.
I guess as far as the girls who DM, what was I going to say?
The girls who DM'd me.
Ah, fuck, I think I lost it.
It's okay.
We don't need to talk about it.
It makes me kind of sad.
Why?
Why does it make you make you sad?
Oh, I remember my point.
Also, keep in mind, like, I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I've been out there on social media for 10 years, right?
To be fair, my audience is predominantly men.
So maybe that's part of it.
But like, girls are not sliding into my DMs, and that's with me on social media.
If I was a girl with my following, holy fuck, my inbox would be insane.
That's true.
Insane.
Be transgender.
What the fuck?
Harram!
Well, what's the issue?
If you want more DMs, hypothetically, if you're in the middle of the day.
Here, let me get these super chats.
Let me do these super chats.
Brian, I'm trying to help you.
You're like complaining, and I don't know what to say.
I'm not complaining.
I agree, but like, yeah.
I don't know if there is a solution because it comes like from evolutionary, like men being the hunter.
Yeah, there isn't a solution.
Have you ever seen those Twitch streamers that are guys who like pretend to be girls and then they get a lot of attention?
Yeah, that's a thing.
People do that.
People do that.
And it seems like they solve their own issue.
I don't know.
I don't hear them complaining about anything.
No comment.
Okay.
Okay.
Super chats.
We got.
Did I get this one?
No.
Is this the most recent one?
I think that was the last one.
Okay, so we have Gus.
Thanks for the $10 Super Chat.
Poly Relationship.
Actually, let's do Twitch first and then I'll get this.
Eric, can you pull up the Twitch tab?
We'll come right back to the Super Chat.
Sorry for the wait, guys.
We had a productive debate there.
Guys, open up a Twitch tab, twitch.tv/slash/whatever.
Drop us a follow and drop us a prime sub if you have a sub available.
Thanks, Eric.
Eric, could you snag me a water bottle, please?
Thank you, man.
Gus, $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
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Dude, really appreciate the support, Zentience.
I think this is the first time I've seen you.
Zentience.
I think this is the first time I've seen you in the chat, man.
Welcome.
I'm pretty sure I've seen you in Fresh and Fit.
Dude, thank you so much for the support, man.
Appreciate it.
Miss Brazil is like the nun, in-depth and introspective as a blank sheet of paper.
Miss Brazil will never find another guy like him.
If she settles, she will undoubtedly get the simp and subsequent chats.
Modern women lack cost-benefit analysis of their men.
Wow.
You and me.
Come on, Sarah.
He said you're like me.
Oh, I think he means Miss Brazil.
Wait, he said Miss Brazil.
Oh, yeah, you're drawing.
I know, sorry.
He's too Brazilian, so we don't know.
Yeah.
Listen to his own.
I don't care.
All right, we have.
That's exactly.
I don't want to find someone like him because it didn't work out.
We have Zentience here with the $20 Super Chat Subsequent Cats.
Wait, I'm confused.
Oh, wait.
Get the simps and subsequent cats.
Okay.
Guys, invest in chewy.
Hold on, I have something here.
What is a cat?
I have those.
All right, guys.
Invest in cat food because there's going to be a lot of single people in the coming years.
I call these kitty cookies.
Kitty and cat.
Kitty cookies.
Irresistible.
That's meow mix, by the way.
Yeah, I call them kitty cookies.
Yo, we got Chaz here with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Apologies.
Morgan Stanley, a global leader in investment banking, predicts that by 2030, 45% of women ages 25 to 45 will be single.
Do they feel differently about that stat based on their experience dating?
I think everybody will be divorced or single.
Yeah, it's the fall of the West.
Okay.
We have Gus with the $10 Super Chat.
Chivalry is dead.
Women killed it.
Y'all yell.
I'm independent.
Don't need no man, fellas.
Take her on a cheap first date until she proves and earns your chivalry.
I'm sure a lot of guys would love to pull out the stops on the first date, but we've been burned.
We've done it.
It doesn't go anywhere.
The likelihood of any given first date nowadays going to the second date leading to a relationship is so greatly diminished.
Also, I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this term, foodie calls.
Foodie?
A foodie call, like a booty call, but a foodie call.
So a girl will go on a date with the sole intention of just getting a free meal.
Yeah, I heard about it from some friends.
Yeah, and they actually, some professor at some California university did a study on it, and he found like 50% of the women that he polled admitted to have gone on a date with a guy just for a free meal.
I don't, actually, Eric, it might be in the studies folder if you want to pull it up just so I, the girls don't doubt my.
Yeah, that's the type of things that girls do that made Brian not want to pay for any more meals.
Bro, I mean, I've had, I've, I've had foodie calls.
I've not had the doggy bag experience, but I've definitely had girls.
What is the doggy bag experience?
What he told you the story.
where she brings the doggy bag of the food that I paid for to the guy that she's you haven't had that?
not No.
So why is it a concern for you?
He's on the foodie call.
I'm being cautious.
I'm mitigating my risks, I guess you could say.
I'm trying to find it here, Eric.
Yes, the foodie cost statistics.
I need to see this.
I don't know.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
All right, we have Zentience with the 50.
Dude, Zentiance, you're fucking legend, dude.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
$50 soup chat.
The flower door opening topic is banal at essence.
Men don't benefit from any of that.
The bad boys always get the cheeks for free, while Poindexter pays for everything while waiting for a chance while losing money and his pride.
Focus on your future gents.
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of men are starting to wake up because I think what you see happen a lot is women, when they're younger, they're chasing after the exciting guy, the really hot guys, the attractive guys, the bad boys, whatever.
And then when it comes time to have a family and settle down, you're going to go for the provider guy, the safe guy.
I mean, if you can get the whole package, you'll go for it.
But you're going to go for the nice guy, maybe, for marriage.
Doesn't Cheryl Sandberg have some quote?
Like, I don't know, Cheryl Sandberg, she was the CEO of Facebook.
Facebook.
She wrote a book, and in the book, she said, women, you should date in your youth the bad boys, the jerks, the assholes, the commitment phobic boys.
Get them out of your system.
And then there's nothing sexier than just a nice, the nice guy for when you want to settle down and commit, when you need a guy to be a workhorse and a slave and a provider.
Men are starting to wake up to that.
And we're like, okay, you wouldn't have gone for us when we were younger.
You were chasing after these types of guys when we were younger.
So a lot of guys are saying, if I couldn't have got you when you were young, I don't want you now.
Okay, I'm being toxic tonight.
Okay.
Yo, we got, yo, what's up?
Azul69.
Good to see you, man.
Hope you had a good new year.
Good to see you back, Brian.
$20 Super Chat.
What luck?
I've been trying to learn Portuguese these days.
What does, can you guys read this?
Don't read that.
Oh, it's bad.
Yeah, it's really bad.
No.
Can you tell me what it's about?
Is it sex-related?
It is sex-related, but badly.
It's okay, just say it in English.
Okay.
Azul, how dare you, sir?
Okay, Mr. K. $10 Super Chat.
I feel you, Brian, but personally, I have no issue with a girl having been talking to other guys when we first meet.
She doesn't owe me anything up to that point.
It's none of my business.
Hey, that's fine.
Mr. Kate.
That's fine.
I also don't owe her to pay for her date.
We should split the bill.
But if you ask a lot of girls, if a guy said, hey, we should split the bill, a lot of girls will say, there's not going to be a second date.
So, I don't know.
At least be consistent.
So, But I don't know.
You don't owe anyone anything, but.
Okay.
Yo, Zentience, what?
Bro.
Oh, whoops.
Wrong one, my bad.
That was a Zentience.
$50 Soup Chat.
Tristan is very weak.
The lack of understanding regarding feminine boss babes, mindset, et cetera, shows him placating the three FOs on the panel.
Sit down, pay attention, listen to the men talk.
Weakness emanates from men who feel rather than he who thinks.
Sounds like an insecure man.
Do you want to respond to that, Tristan?
Nah, honestly, it just sounds like an insecure man, bro, to be honest.
I have no comment on it.
Zentience, you should come on the show, man.
Tristan, you're very real for that.
Very real for what?
For calling that out.
Nah, I mean, I don't really care.
It's pretty funny.
Excel self with the 10DO Super Chat.
Brian needs to take classes from Toxic Kings.
I have no idea who that is, but okay, thank you.
Yo, Chaz with the 10 Del Super Chat.
Hey, good to see you, man.
By the way, would you guys date a guy whose first name was Chaz?
I'm sorry, Chaz.
I threw you under the bus, but I'm just curious.
He's got the stash going.
Chaz.
Come on.
Chaz onomopia.
Chaz onomonopia is a really fun name.
With like three Z's?
Chaz.
No.
Just one Z. Just one Z, Chaz.
Would you date a guy named Chaz?
Chat's all about it.
The stash?
You wouldn't do the stash?
Hello?
Okay.
I don't think he would want to date us.
All right.
Okay.
Chaz, would you be willing to tell a man before first date that you're seeing other men if he, oh, this is, this.
Thank you, Chaz.
This is a good question.
So would you be willing to tell a man before a first date that you're seeing other men if he asked?
Yes, I don't believe in lying.
Would you feel affronted if he did ask?
Would you be like, that's kind of none of your business?
I would just assume that he's asking because he's overly concerned.
So I would like to alleviate that and just answer.
Okay.
Would it be like negative?
Would you view him slightly negatively if he asked something like that?
Or in neutral?
Honestly, I think I would be a little put off by it.
I'd be like, I don't think you should be concerned about that because I'm not concerned about that.
So you wouldn't, for example, if you knew that a guy, and I will go around the table on this, guys.
If you knew that a guy was, let's say you wanted to pursue someone for a long-term relationship, you knew he was sleeping with seven other women.
That wouldn't be part of your analysis.
What's the word?
Equation of.
Maybe I don't want to date somebody else.
Would I want to date someone who's dating seven other people?
Yeah.
No, if we're being real.
Okay.
Like be for real, obviously.
But I want to maybe challenge you on trying to reframe that.
Maybe he's asking because he's not just going to fucking chuck you.
He's not going to do.
He doesn't want a one-night stand with you.
He actually wants to pursue a long-term serious relationship with you, and that's why he's curious.
So could you reframe it like that to be like, oh, actually, this is a genuine guy who actually wants to pursue a relationship with me?
Yeah, I could.
Anyways, so.
Question's a question.
So would you be willing to tell a guy before first date that you're seeing other men if he asked?
Yes, but that's also like a red flag from his part.
Like, why would you want to know that in the beginning?
Obviously, in the beginning, you're always dating, you know, you're maybe talking to somebody.
Why would you even want to know that?
Why would a guy want to know that?
Yeah.
Well, we we just talked about it.
I think it's just like pointless.
Because then you don't, you go to the first day, get another person, right?
Like it doesn't matter because that I mean, yeah, obviously I wouldn't wanna go out on a date with a guy knowing that he's going out with seven other girls.
Okay.
But I already assume this person is already talking with other people.
You know, I'll be my best.
And maybe if we connect, he would choose me, then automatically those other people won't be in the page anymore.
That's my thinking.
So wait, okay.
So, well, I can tell you why you asked why a guy would want to know that.
Right?
Okay, I can tell you why, for example, I might want to ask that question.
If I asked the question and the girl was honest with me and she said, hey, you know what?
Yes, Brian, I'm sleeping with two other guys right now.
That's fine.
You can do that.
But I no longer want to go on a date with you.
We're not compatible.
So why?
I don't want to waste your time.
I'm not compatible.
Why am I not compatible with the girl that's sleeping with three other men?
He's saying the same thing.
I'm talking about just dating.
Okay, like, you were even saying if the girl is talking, seeing other people, that doesn't necessarily mean that you are sleeping with them, right?
But let's say I have planned two dates this week, right?
And you have asked me, are you seeing other people?
Right.
Why, like, we're dating, it's not like you go in one day, you're finding the perfect person.
And you're already assuming that's like also insecurity.
You're asking those questions already to cause a problem.
Is it insecurity or is it having a boundary?
I think it's like values, what he's talking about.
Because what different values?
Well, what you call insecurity, I call having a boundary.
So you would only go out on a date if the girl is not talking to anybody.
No.
I accept that women are probably talking or enter talking to other guys.
However, if I find out that she's currently sleeping with another guy, now how would I find that out?
Most girls are either not gonna, they're not gonna be upfront about that.
They could lie.
Yeah, so why ask?
You wouldn't know.
He wants to know if he's wasting his time or not.
Yeah, but the girls are not.
Exactly what you said.
Before going to the first date, you're messaging, hey, are you sleeping with other people?
I mean, I'm not agreeing with having to ask that on the first date, but if you do somehow find out, he wants to know if he's of importance with her, that she's not smashing other dudes on the side.
Yeah, so if I find out, or if somehow we're talking, maybe when we're on the phone call, it comes up organically.
We're talking about previous relationships, and I don't know, just somehow it organically comes up.
I mean, certainly it'd be nice if you could just be straight up and just be like, hey, are you hooking up with other people right now?
But I don't know.
Maybe I should start doing that, to be honest.
But they're just, I wouldn't even want to go on the first date.
Is it too hot now?
It's pretty hard.
Eric, can you open the, the, um.
understand i wouldn't want to as well but it's not a question that i i think i i mean it's really hard to judge people right like i think obviously this is the problem with dating apps because you don't know them But if you meet somebody in real life, mutual friends in a bar, you can tell a little bit.
Like, it's not like it's going to give it away how many people they're sleeping with, but you can tell their values.
And then you would take them on a first date.
You seem like, okay, this girl is nice, has good values.
I want to take them on a date.
You're going to scare the person if you'll be like, are you sleeping with other people?
Perhaps, maybe.
But if she's not, then, I mean, I think there's also more eloquent ways you can ask it.
You could say, are you seeing anybody else right now?
Instead of saying, hey, are you fucking anybody else right now?
I think if you ask someone, hey, just you could, here's how I might frame it.
If I were to overtly, if I were to just straight up ask them, I might frame it like this.
I might say, hey, listen, I just want to be upfront with you.
I am looking for something serious.
I'm not interested in one-night stands.
I'm not interested in friends with benefits.
I'm not saying we're going to be boyfriend, girlfriend right away, but that I am kind of dating with a purpose.
And just, you know, I'd like to know, I kind of fucked up the last part, but, you know, are you currently seeing other guys right now?
I might frame it like that.
That might be a better landing for that sort of question, but if you frame it like that.
I just don't want a point.
And that's true for me because I'm not interested in just running through a bunch of girls.
It doesn't interest me.
Having sex with a bunch of different girls once, twice, and then never talking to the gam, talking to them again, that's not appealing to me.
No, that's fair.
And I value, and you know what's interesting when it comes to sex, right?
First off, the most consistent and regular sex that you're going to have is within a relationship, I think.
I mean, unless you're a real fucking player.
But you're going to have the most consistent sex.
You're going to have the best sex.
Because I think anyways, the best sex that you're going to have with someone is you trust each other.
You love each other.
You have comfort.
You have a connection.
There's angue-tied here.
There's an emotional connection.
And then just on the purely physical realm, you know what they like and they know what you like.
And so, yeah, so I don't know.
I've never, me personally, maybe I'm different in this way.
I've never been interested in just sleeping with a whole bunch of girls.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
Oh, wow.
That's striking.
You look great in that.
It doesn't interest me.
It doesn't interest me to just run through a bunch of girls.
I value more so long-term, serious relationships.
Obviously, in that scenario that you had put, it's true, but it's just that it sounded like, oh, if the girl is going on a different date, I'm not saying sleeping, but different dates, it's a wrong thing.
It shouldn't be because you're getting to know people, especially from dating apps, because you don't know anything.
All you see is just like a picture and how tall they are, and you don't know anything.
And sometimes people don't connect on the first day.
You don't, there is no, there is such thing as first love at first sight, but as you grow older, it's not like, okay, I met you and I'm in love with you.
I'm going to cut everything.
I'm not going to meet anybody anymore.
So I was saying that sense.
I mean, going on five dates a week to me just seems exhausting, to be honest.
No, that's true.
And I also think that, I mean, why is it that we've seen the rise of, because I feel like kind of before social media and before dating apps, people were more likely to get into relationships.
Whereas now we have situationships where someone wants a bit something more, someone doesn't want to commit, and it's because we have such an abundance of options.
And I mean, you can't, I don't think you can simultaneously say, I don't like situation ships, but also, I know you didn't say that, but people often complain about, oh, situation ships, they suck.
Like, I just want to partner.
And then also be going on multiple, like going on all these dates too and entertaining multiple options.
So I think that I think it's also a cultural thing, and unfortunately, it's how dating is right now for the 20, 30 people, you know, because exactly what you said, there is like a bunch of options out there, and that's what I was saying before about the lack of effort.
Because why are you going to do the same thing for 10 girls that you're going to go out with?
You got what I mean?
Well, I mean, to me, it just seems exhausting to be going on a whole bunch of dates with different people.
I say, I mean, people can do whatever they want, but I think what would be the most optimum thing for both men and women is talk to someone and really try to just pursue one person at a time.
If there's that mutual interest there.
I mean, it's funny.
I think this was about a year ago.
I went on a date with a girl who was, I don't know, she was 31 or something.
Why you laughing?
What, too old or something?
I don't know.
No, it was the comment.
Oh, one of the comments.
Yeah.
Went on this date with a girl, 31, like pretty average girl.
Well, here's the other thing that I think might be frustrating for a lot of guys.
An average woman has so many options.
She was.
I'm not trying to be mean, but she was average.
Not particularly remarkable in terms of her personality.
She wasn't exceptionally charismatic, looks-wise, average, average job, worked, I don't know, she was a nurse or something.
She told me, I went on a date with her, and she told me she had just downloaded, we met on Hinge.
She had just downloaded it two days prior, three days prior.
She said that, and I think she'd been on it for three days.
We went on a date on the third date.
Sorry, guys, getting tongue-tied again.
We went on a date the third day that she had the app.
She had told me she had already been on one date, and she told me she had two dates planned for the weekend.
The way that makes me feel is, well, one, it's just shot.
It's kind of crazy to me that someone so average has that degree of options, but that's how it is for women.
But I was like, I, okay, well, what if I wanted to hang out with you on Saturday?
You already got plans.
You're going to go see another guy.
The likelihood that it's going to work out between you and me, you're talking to five other dudes.
I'm checked out.
I just we're done.
Like, I don't want to pursue it.
So did you just moan?
I just burped.
Oh, okay.
I thought there was a moan.
I burp and I moan at the same time.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
All right, let's get some super.
Oh, wait.
Did we go all the way?
Sorry.
Did we go all the way around the table on that super chat?
No.
Okay, we'll do it really quick.
We'll get the rest of the super chats.
We'll react to a video and then we're going to wrap up.
Would you be willing to tell a man before first date that you're seeing other men if he asked?
I don't care.
Yeah, sure.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
Oh, while I have this in mind, Madison, we spoke previously.
Do you remember the thing we spoke about?
Do you want to bring that up?
Yeah, we can.
You sure?
Madison, you're so cute.
What is it?
Yeah, we can.
You sure?
Yeah.
Ask her one more time.
You know what I'm talking about.
You know what I'm talking about, though.
You want me to I'm sorry Yeah Jesus Say it.
Hold on Actually, before we do that, we'll get to that in a sec.
We talked a bit about body count.
I want to go around the table on body count.
What's your body count, Tristan?
Wait, actually, hold on.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Really quick, really quick around the table.
Should body count matter?
No.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
No.
No.
That was for her, by the way.
Okay, go ahead.
No.
Into the mic?
Yes.
Okay.
What's your body count?
21.
Madison, into the mic.
Do I have to?
You already said it on the last show.
I know.
Did I?
Yeah, you did say it on the last show.
Wait, it's Mike Madison.
It's like...
I don't know what I'm saying.
I'm nervous.
So we can all say it at the same time.
Well, one at a time.
Go ahead, Madison.
Can I go last?
Or middle?
No, no, you should blow it up.
And I'll blow into the mic when you say it in the middle.
So you can lie about it.
I don't want to lie about it.
No, but you've already revealed it on the previous show.
Did I?
Yeah, you did.
Yeah, I did.
So what is it?
It's like 35.
35.
I've been with the same guy since 13, so one.
Obviously.
Excuse me.
Wow, okay.
Wait, so you're in a long-distance relationship?
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
You don't know?
No.
You want to give us a range?
10, 20, 30, 40?
100?
No, no, no.
Maybe like 20?
Like between 20, 25?
Okay.
I don't know.
Sure.
Appreciate the honesty.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Do I have to, Tom?
I mean.
Hold on, but you said body count doesn't matter, so why the hesitation to reveal?
I can, but I think you're going to be surprised, maybe.
Go for it.
I have like really low.
I have one.
But you're also just 18, so.
I just turned 18.
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
Body count?
Like 12?
Like 12?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
One.
One.
Why are you looking at me like that?
I felt so bad.
Is that uncommon?
Is that unheard of?
Is that absurd?
Okay.
Okay.
You know who it is?
Say it with me now.
Jesus?
Oh my God.
Stop the cap.
What's the actual number?
One.
Wait.
So, okay.
As far as the body count of the table goes.
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
Okay.
So, Madison, do you want to share?
What do you mean?
The situation.
Can you start?
I'll go with you.
You know what I'm talking about, though, right?
Okay.
All right.
You want me to say it?
I don't know.
What are you gonna say?
One of you, say it.
What is happening right now?
I know.
I'm very curious.
I know.
The semen situation.
No, I didn't say the semen situation.
Okay.
What do the blue emojis mean?
Cap.
Stop the cap.
It means you're lying.
It means you're capping.
She's got the blue hair.
She's capping.
Okay.
That's hilarious.
Hilarious.
I just don't know how to start it.
Okay.
It's not herpes.
Okay.
It's about herpes.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you want to reveal to the chat?
What about it?
Oh, we're talking about STs now.
Okay, like, um, I don't know.
Into the mic, louder, louder.
Can you talk?
Do you want me to say on your behalf?
Yeah.
Okay, so.
You sure?
Yeah.
Okay, so Madison told me that she has herpes.
Okay.
Okay.
What do you want us to say to that?
What I'm trying to say.
Would you get with someone if they told you they have herpes?
Madison, you're perfect.
They would be like, don't worry.
They do say no.
But I feel like no one knows how obviously have safe sex.
Yeah.
Okay, we will.
But everyone thinks it's really bad and not as bad as everyone thinks it is.
Herpes is herpes.
But it's in your DNA.
I guess my question is because there's a lot of talk about body count, right?
And saying body count shouldn't matter, but would you so fervently defend promiscuity, casual sex, having a high body count if you got herpes?
No, that is terrible.
Like, I think to myself, if I were to catch herpes, by the way, don't have herpes.
But if I were to catch it and I was being promiscuous, I would think to myself, I should not have been so promiscuous.
What is like being promiscuous?
Like, what is like too high of a body count?
Sleeping with a lot of people at the same time.
We say the word numbers.
Like, what is like a high body count for like someone who's 30?
Someone who's 30?
Yeah.
It depends.
Brian, what's your body count?
You're like 30, right?
I'm a man of God, so I don't disclose my body count.
What?
Oh, what?
That's not fair.
I think body count matters, so I'm not going to disclose my body count.
How about this?
You guys can guess.
How about that?
I'll let you guess.
We'll start with you.
Judging by the stats, I'm going to believe you and say one.
Okay.
Are you offended by that?
I'm not offended.
I'll tell you.
I will tell you you're wrong, though.
Okay.
How old are you?
30?
33.
It's like 30-something.
I mean, imagine, like, from 18, if you had lost your virginity and into 33.
Imagine if you sleep just once every year.
That's already like 15.
You know?
Think about it.
It's not bad.
Could be once a year.
Who knows?
I would say.
Long-term relationship.
The way you are very annoying about that, maybe like 10.
Oh, it's less because I was annoying.
Okay.
All right.
That's fine.
What do you think?
I'd say it's the same, I guess.
I don't know.
15 maybe?
Like 12?
Brian, please tell us.
Yeah, just tell us.
Please tell us.
Just please tell us.
I don't disclose.
I don't disclose.
It could be anywhere from zero to 200.
Okay.
Let's go with the median and say it's 100.
But like, here's the thing.
When it comes to the herpes, right?
And body count.
I guarantee you, if a well, maybe it's not guaranteed, but if a girl got, or anyone got herpes or an incurable STD, they're probably going to take pause and think, maybe I shouldn't have had.
Now, you can get, you can get an STD in a relationship, sure.
But like, come on.
It's more likely in a hookup scenario.
Didn't you say you used protection, though?
And you still know that?
Not all the time.
But Madison, I just, I want to commend you because I think, first off, it's one, it's incredibly brave of you to, one, be honest about your body count, and then two, to, you know, be willing to disclose your status on the show.
And I do think that herpes, it has maybe a stigma attached to it that might not necessarily be, maybe there's some misconceptions.
Oh, Angel, let me, wait.
Okay.
So do you have any comments or anything or anything you want to share about?
No.
Okay, she's good.
I don't think so.
I said it's not that bad.
No, I like, because it's so controllable and people just don't know about it.
I feel like you should learn a little more about it before you're like, oh, you've herpes.
I'm not going to get with you.
Let's go around the table really quick on that.
If you're talking to a guy and you liked him and he told you, obviously before you hooked up, hey, listen, just want to talk to you.
I should let you know I do have herpes.
Are you going to pursue it or are you not?
I just want to say, first of all, you are very brave and my answer has nothing to do with you at all.
But if we're being real right now, that's a question that I feel like everyone is going to say no to unless you have herpes too.
Well, actually, well, you told me that you've disclosed to some guys.
Yeah, they have.
And they were okay with it.
Be careful.
But you told them and they said, I accept the risk.
Oh, they're so real for that.
These motherfuckers are desperate for some pussy.
I mean.
Anyways, what about you?
No.
No.
if i was in love with them using protection how would you be but i mean you wouldn't they disclose to you like the second or third date before you have the chance to fall in love with them Like second or third date?
Before you guys sleep together.
I don't know, maybe it's on the first date.
I don't know what you're saying.
I just love messages before, right?
So like I fall in love with the conversation and then if the sexual chemist, if they like physical chemistry happens, then I fall further.
But like I.
But you don't fall in love with a guy before you sleep with him, right?
I mean, I don't know how long you wait.
Maybe you.
Like I did.
I've done before.
She's falling in love with someone unfortunately.
I mean, that's believable.
Okay.
Like for their personality and what's up?
What?
What's up?
I was just wondering when this was like a message.
Oh, I'm just disrespecting it.
No, I know.
We've gone late.
We're going to wrap pretty soon here.
Okay, let me get these soup chats.
We'll react to one video and then we'll.
Yeah.
But I do commend you once again.
Very brave of you to be willing to talk about that.
And yeah.
Okay, so let's see.
Yo, we have Zentiens here with the $50 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
We have.
Blue-haired hentai is wrong.
Yeah, that's you.
Maybe Kiki, too.
When women go around saying I'm ugly, there are legions of simps and other women bolstering their ego, i.e., Lizzo.
But if men do that, other men will shame them relentlessly.
Men must battle their demons on their own.
Yeah, a guy who's a bum, who is unattractive, like if he's like trying to big up himself, like we're Tristan, like if one of your buddies is like, I'm the fucking shit, dog, and he ain't the shit, are you going to fucking clown on him?
Well, yeah, we'll call it a bunch of people.
I'm a fucking clown on him, dude.
Girls will like big up their friends.
100%.
That Lizzo example is, it's like, don't normalize being like unhealthy.
It's just, I don't know why the fuck that's like a trend to be okay with that.
That Lizzo example is perfect.
You're opening a box of.
Oh, I don't care about the cancel culture.
You're going to get canceled.
Gus with the $10 Super Chat, man cannot go through life manifesting, believing in truth.
If I'm a fat, broke man that lives with his mom, I ain't getting no DMs.
Solution is men have to level up game, or level up money, game, and fitness.
Yeah, we don't really, I feel like we don't really get the benefit of like we have to operate in reality here.
A guy can't just manifest these things into his life.
I don't think a woman can either.
I think if a woman wants to not be insecure, then she can work on herself, and a guy can too.
The only difference is, is that like an average guy is going to struggle to find girls to date, whereas an average woman has an abundance of options.
They might not be the ideal suitor, but like any single girl at this table now, it's a Tuesday, right?
Any single one of you, it's fucking 11:30, could like find a reasonably physically attractive guy to sleep with tonight.
Okay, she's getting sad again.
All right, we got Excel self at the $10 Soup Chat.
Brian, you let her in.
She understands what you're saying.
However, you gave her the fuel she needed to get inside that charisma is pretty strong, but don't let it get to you.
Wait, what?
Who is he talking about?
You let her in?
Who?
Who did you let in?
You?
Me?
Did you let me in?
Did I let?
Did you let me in?
I'm not into pegging.
How dare you?
That wasn't on my mind at all.
I'm into something.
I didn't say that at all.
Is he talking about the you?
Who's he talking about?
I don't know.
Anyways, why don't we ask him?
Yeah, Excel self.
Which girl?
Mac Joseph, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
The girl with the husband story, the guy just used you or something, to be honest.
Kind of a fishy story.
Ooh.
Do you want to respond to Mac Joseph?
I mean, he doesn't know anything about our stories, so whatever he thinks.
Doesn't matter.
I don't think he used you, but it's just, I think it's an L when your partner wants to open up the relationship.
Like, that's, I think it's a bad sign.
I mean, clearly, it didn't work out.
So, like, it has to be a bad sign.
He didn't.
Hold on.
Wait, whoa, whoa.
What?
Okay.
It is.
Unless if you're previously in a monogamous relationship and one of the partners wants to open it up and one of the partners doesn't, that's a bad sign.
Yeah, then it's a bad sign.
If the other one doesn't want it, then it's definitely not.
I mean, it's usually never like at the exact same moment in time.
It's usually never a mutual, hey, let's just open this up.
But you know what?
Like, there's a lot of guys there that like cheat on their girlfriends, a lot of girls that cheat on their boyfriends.
He figured out later on, like through a lot of self-reflection, that he was non-monogamous.
And it's not like he's with someone else right now married in a monogamous relationship.
No, this is like past his life.
He tried because he really lost me.
And we really loved each other, but that was it.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
All right, we have Lawrence Bullock with Eton Dasu Chad.
If men and women are equal, why do we revert back to traditional gender roles when there's civil unrest?
Good point.
How many women at the table would shield their man from an angry mob?
I mean, we do have two Brazilian girls here, though, here.
So, I mean.
Brazilians has kind of got that, got a little spice.
They got that fire, Brazilian girls, you know?
Got a little fire.
Y'all know Jiu-Jitsu?
Okay.
Well, let's speak about Ukraine here for a second.
I would say that when we get, when chaos, hold on, sorry, let me rephrase this.
When we encounter chaos, when society starts to break down, that's when we start reverting really to our traditional gender roles.
So you do have to think that because of men's because we have such a comfortable society, we have the benefit of these concepts of equality.
But I'll tell you this much.
There's no feminists when Russia is invading.
What the?
There are no feminists when Russia is invading.
Should we talk about how biologically we are different?
Let's not talk.
Well, what I'm trying to say is most recently, Ukraine was invaded, right?
And there's a lot of talk about equality, all this stuff.
Are men like stronger than women, like muscles and everything?
Aren't we just built differently?
Men are stronger than women, yes.
That's it.
That's what he's trying to say.
Women can shoot guns.
I mean, we can, but like, physically?
Do men make better soldiers, yes?
Are you talking about like that man has to go to war instead of women?
What I'm saying is, is that, okay, for example, in Ukraine, there was news.
Well, men between the ages of 18 and 60 had to stay in the country.
Women could leave.
You hear the news reports.
women and children leaving you think those men want to maybe some of them want to be there but so So while you had men in Ukraine that were getting killed, you had women, Ukrainian women in Dubai and Sweden on Tinder in the club.
You want to talk about equality?
Let's talk about equality.
Actually, you know what?
Here's another drink.
I want to show you guys this.
All right, I'm being talked.
Am I being toxic?
I don't know.
Okay.
I'm sorry, when I was talking, I didn't know about like that men were forced to stay here.
I thought you were just talking about like when in war men like are more prevalent than women.
Men are more privileged?
No, prevalent.
Like there are more men than woman, not privileged.
Yeah, well, okay, so, and that's Ukraine, right?
Well, you might, well, here's the United States.
So this is a selective service system registration card.
So can one of you read this?
What does it say?
Men, 18, 25 years.
You can handle this.
Read it, fill it, mail it.
Register.
It's quick, it's easy.
It's the law.
Eric, can you go center Zoom?
All right, I don't know if you guys can see this.
This is a selective service registration form.
I'll take it back.
So men, 18 to 25, have to register for the draft here in the United States.
And I don't know, you don't really hear a lot of women campaigning for the equality when it comes to getting drafted.
How old are you, Tristan?
I'm 22 and I'm registered.
I'm registered also.
So if we were to go to war, I've aged out, luckily, of the draft, although in some catastrophic scenario, I still technically, I suppose, could get drafted.
You are subject, if we were to go to war, you are subject to the draft because of your age.
Yeah.
So.
100%.
Who's really privileged?
Okay, I'm being.
I don't know why.
I'm derailing the conversation.
Okay, let me get through these super chats.
Oh, my God.
What?
I wish you get periods every month.
I don't think that's the only one they're privileged.
Well, I mean, that's the difference is that that's just a biological reality.
Yeah, that's exactly why.
Okay.
Okay, let's move on.
Let's move on.
Yo, Angel Grablev.
What's up, dude?
Love you, Brian.
Hey, Angel's the homie.
Angel's the homie.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Angel Grablev, I think he's guessing my body count, 99.
Okay.
Will not disclose.
Thank you.
Thank you, Angel, though.
I'm a scat man.
Thank you for the.
Does anyone know the currency?
I think it's yen.
It's a.
I'm not sure.
Sharky.
Yo, good to see you, Sharky.
$10 super chat.
Ladies, would it change your view of your boyfriend if he was engaged six times and proposed to you with the same ring he promised to six other women?
That's how men look at women giving their body away.
It's totally the same thing.
Oh, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of I mean, it's it's It's attempting to explain the feeling that men feel.
But engaging, yeah, body count.
There's two really clear different things.
Word.
Okay, cool.
All right.
We're going to do one last thing.
We're going to react to a video, then we're going to wrap up.
Guys, if you want, get your last-minute super chats in.
Let's see.
Pull up the video tab, please.
Let's see.
Let's do.
Should we do a tape video?
Let's do a tape video.
Why not?
Tate?
Let's do Andrew Tate.
Isn't that controversial?
That's what this show's about.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot.
Okay, which one should we watch?
Let's watch the one that'll make us the most mad.
Yeah.
Let's watch the one that'll get us riled up.
We could do his body count one.
Come on, run it up.
Come on, Brian.
All right, let's just do the classic.
We'll do the body count one.
Go for it.
Let's see what's going on.
That's what's so attractive about younger women because a lot of these dudes talk about fatality and looks and stuff.
I don't actually think it's that.
Do you guys believe that?
I think that in the modern world.
In the days of old, right?
You meet a woman, you get married, you'd be the other one.
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
How many men have fun?
If I got a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
I'm gonna be dude number fucking 29.
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're gonna try and bring to my door?
Like, well, my last man cheat.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, I don't care.
Like, why is that my problem?
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer, they've had more fucking rides, more spins.
I don't want that shit.
When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
And that, and also, no, but no, but the truth is, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall away too.
And it's unattractive, isn't it?
But if she's like, if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, she really didn't think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special, or she's gonna think, you know what, he talked to me, Rudolph, go get a new guy.
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
You know what?
This is the guy.
I like him.
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
Women fall in love with the person who loses their Virginia 2 or their second or third guy.
They really remember them.
They really love them.
Any woman who slept with 62 she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in relationship.
She's more likely to just say, you know what?
New answers, new dick, and it's a pretty good answer.
And that's the truth.
Let me make something clear.
If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
That's pretty fucking old.
Yeah 30, I know what?
Are you crazy?
I there's been times I was drunk.
Okay, your reaction to that?
Go ahead, I don't agree and I have no opinion.
Come on, what you just what you just you just said.
Pull up the video that will get us the most upset.
Um no, what do you think of Tate?
Would you date him?
Would I date him?
Is it wrong to say that I find him like attractive?
I could say he's subjectively attractive oh, but probably not because he's in jail, so I don't think I could.
Conjugal visit.
A Romanian conjugal visit sounds fun, sounds like a good time.
Your reaction?
Honestly, I was.
I was trying to understand it, but okay, so fast, and then it was.
I couldn't really hear yo Portuguese bros in the chat.
Can you translate what Andrew Tate said in Portuguese?
Thank you uh, your reaction?
Do we need German translation for you?
I mean, it was, he was fast, but I think I can't could like get the main point of it.
Um, i'm really tired of men.
Yeah, that's my secret.
Oh, you're just tired of men.
Wow, you're tired of men.
Why is that?
Oh that like Andrew Tate and like Andrew Tate, come on, I think at least I, I hope 50 of men already know that what, What Andrew Tate is saying, is total bullshit, I hope.
But whatever.
I am really tired of that.
I'm tired of discussion.
Yeah, it's not even worth arguing about.
No, will we ever change this person's mind or any of these people?
Andrew Tate is an Andrew Tate fans.
I don't know.
Yeah.
That's not even worth waiting for.
Mom, please talk to you, mom, about worth of women, and then maybe you will get it.
And if not, I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry.
Yeah, there's nothing to say, but just I disagree and separate yourself from that.
Don't partake in that conversation.
So do you guys question why is Andrew Tate so popular?
No, he's popular because he's like loud and he says controversial things.
He's like talented.
I can give him credit for getting the notoriety that he has.
With that being said, I don't agree with anything, but it is kind of, it does take talent to get as big as he did.
So I will give him props for that.
Yeah.
I think Andrew Tate is popular because he is the result of the pendulum swinging the other way.
I think actually at that point I would agree with you because like I get that, like cancel culture and everything and then like Andrew Tate coming up and everybody's like Andrew Tate, wow, wow, wow.
He's like saying controversial things.
And I think obviously cancel culture goes too far at some point.
I think so too.
A lot of people would agree with that.
Cancel culture sometimes goes too far, but sometimes it's doing the right job and it did with Andrew Tate.
Thank you and period.
I don't think that was cancel culture.
I think that was like legal allegations.
Luckily it was also legal.
Yeah, but also like cancel culture in terms of like cancel culture literally got him removed off social media.
Like he did.
Cancel culture did have an effect on it too.
That's new, that whole allegations, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
Didn't he have like videos where he literally told her?
Whatever.
I don't really know a lot about him.
I'm pretty sure those were like the videos where he was like whipping a girl with a belt?
I saw that too.
I didn't even know about that.
But I saw also a video where he said that he's only going to Romania, so he's like running away from law in the US, so he's going to Romania or something.
He did say he moved to Romania because one of the reasons was because he has access to the corruption.
Oh, wow.
That's so.
But.
Yeah.
But as far as the video goes, the woman who was in it came out and said, it's just, it's, I mean, I don't mean to use this term, but it literally is fake news because the woman in the video came out and said, hey, we were into some kinky stuff.
We were into BDSM.
And it was just like, why would you record you doing like you're in a bedroom?
Why would you anyways, the woman in the actual video came out and said, hey, there was no abuse.
It was consensual.
We're just into freaky stuff.
Yeah, my hate against Andrew Tate comes alone from his opinion of what he's saying.
So like.
Sure.
Do you want to give your reaction to the video?
Oh, I presented it.
The Portuguese.
Right, right, right.
Go ahead.
Any reaction?
Do you need it in Dutch?
Yeah.
We're going to get it in Dutch.
Okay, we'll get that.
Madison?
I don't agree with him.
Okay.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
All right.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I want to hear his reaction, Tristan.
My reaction on Andrew Tate, I think Andrew Tate did a very good job in like marketing himself at first and saying like really like outlandish stuff at first and he kind of created this character of himself.
Now if you really listen to a lot of what he says like when he's not playing that character, he's speaking like the truth.
Like he says a lot of things that you can agree with and I'm sure if you guys actually heard some videos other than the viral clips that have been shot like chopped up you guys would agree with a lot with what he says.
But like obviously what he's saying is it's a little out it goes a little out of the boundaries.
Yeah, and there's some things that he just goes too far with.
Obviously like, if it like, I would ask him honestly if, if that was your daughter, like how would you?
How would you think about that?
You know, like how if, would that change your viewpoint?
But like, a lot of what he says it's it's facts, but obviously the viral clips aren't gonna show when he's like speaking facts he's.
They're gonna show the crazy loud ones where he's saying super controversial stuff.
He makes good points.
Yeah, I think he makes good points, and that's why it's easy to indoctrinate people, because you can mix a little bit of crazy into normal and then people just believe everything.
He does make good points.
I do.
I do think he like says some things that obviously are like really real, but we can't really justify that.
What are you laughing at?
I just saw really bad comments translated for us.
I can't, I can't.
It's literally, it's, it's Haram.
Okay yo, so last three, last super chats here.
Then we're gonna wrap.
Okay Chaz, $10 Super Chat.
Oh, my god, all right, funny enough, my name was chosen solely by a woman, is what it is?
Someone that thinks like that girl, Tara from previous episodes is more my style.
Anyways, I'll ask her.
Oh, voice crack nice.
I'll ask her your question next time.
Thank you, I needed that ask.
I'll ask her your question next time.
She's on.
Actually, Tara should be on Sunday, by the way, just reminder, we're gonna be.
We will have a Thursday show, but we're gonna be switching to Sunday Tuesday.
She'll be on Sunday, Darian Connor.
Thank you for the ten dollar super chat.
Universally, women want a man who provides stability security, confidence and kindness.
What all your opinions?
Really quick.
We'll go around the table, just yes or no, agree or disagree.
Agree agree Louis, agree agree.
You know my opinion, Gus.
With the $10 Super Chat you can't disagree with someone and not say why.
Most men think like Tate.
But a man's standards are considered discrimination, a woman's are preferences.
More men want to be traditionally masculine.
he does raise a good point do you do you think it's wrong when it comes to body count do you guys think it's wrong if a guy he wants a woman who has a low body count do you think that's a wrong I wouldn't say wrong I would say I mean and he's not something for me personally if he's like I want a A woman that has low body count.
I want that, I want that.
No, I mean, you can have preference, obviously, but like if you're like so fixiated on that point with body count, he will probably have a little, like, he will have probably your opinions on dating too.
And that's definitely not something I can agree on.
And then probably dating with that person and me would not go at rate well.
But like, if it's him, his opinion, go for it.
I have a question for you.
So you said your body count is one.
So if you were talking to a guy and he was like, whoa, I really like that.
I really like that you have a low body count.
Would you be put off by that?
Yeah.
So despite it being something that you possess, having a low body count, you would be put off by a guy being desirous of a trait that you possess.
Yeah, that, I mean, he should just not care about it.
Like, that's not too much to us.
Just not fucking care.
Tell you what, as the representative for all men in the world, on behalf of all men, we'll stop caring about body count when you stop caring about height.
Women stop caring about height.
And money?
A man's money, I guess.
That's villain.
And his conf what other things do women like?
Confidence.
Venus size.
Confidence.
I don't know.
Penis size.
I think the nun is having a stroke.
We have Sharky here.
Last one, $10 super chat.
A man's body count doesn't matter to women, but economic security does.
Economically providing doesn't matter to men, but a female's purity does.
Each sex values and offers different things.
Very good point, Sharky.
Very good point.
Pull up the Twitch chat.
Let's shout out the Twitch bros.
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Open it up.
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Cheer.
Okay, got it.
Cool.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
And okay.
Last opportunity.
Anyone have a last thought?
Or.
Okay, cool.
Cool, cool.
All right.
So, I feel like I'm forgetting something.
Last thing.
You said that you wish guys put in more effort earlier on in the conversation.
Is that right?
You wish guys put in more effort on the date or when it comes to courting women?
It's just because I dated really shitty guys.
You've dated really shitty guys before.
So they didn't put in more effort?
No, they wanted me to be, like, for example, my last relationship.
He wanted me to be the man of the relationship.
He wanted you to be the man.
And were you the man of the relationship?
No, I don't want to be the man in the relationship.
But I'm not talking about financially.
I'm talking about even putting the effort of like planning things.
Planning dates.
So you were mostly planning dates.
These are the person that plans it, though, pays for it.
Usually.
You're not going to plan it and then have the other person pay for it.
It's very different.
I was like, you know.
It's different because my relationship, we were together for a long time.
And he had different expectations and I had different expectations.
Sure.
Okay.
Huh.
There's a beta male who likes to be the, what's it called?
Oh, well.
Doesn't like to be the dominant one in the relationship.
He likes to be a relationship.
Well, here's the thing, though.
I think, guys, we're perfectly content doing nothing.
We don't need to, like, at least for me, right?
I don't know if this is about like the same for all guys, but I don't feel the need to go to brunch with a girl.
Like, I'm perfectly content just being in a girl's presence.
I don't need to do, play mini golf.
I don't need to do all these other activities.
I feel like men are pretty easy to please in that sense.
Like, we're good to just lounge around the house and chill.
Chill.
Eat.
I like to travel.
Fuck.
I don't know.
Has a girl ever asked you to go to the zoo?
One time I was dating a girl and she wanted to go to the zoo.
And that's when I knew this relationship is over.
Oh, I knew she had slacks.
That sounds like me.
Wait, why?
That sounds like you.
I'm not going to the zoo.
The zoo is fun.
Like the aquarium, museums.
You go to one zoo, you've seen every zoo.
What?
Like, once you've gone to the zoo once, do you really need to go different animals?
I don't know.
YouTube's got some 1080p videos of tigers and shit.
What is that?
But I'm confused.
What's the problem?
If the girl wants to go to the zoo, it's no one.
You're saying he's content with not doing that?
I'm just such a busy guy.
Like, I don't want to fill up my time with shit.
Oh, you don't want time to date anyone, a girlfriend.
So tell me more about that.
You're in that relationship and you don't have time.
Like, you just want to sleep and have sex?
That's it.
Well, actually, do I have what?
So, yeah, you know.
Yeah, so that's like exactly low.
And there's a type for that.
There's my homebody girls.
I'm exactly your type.
There's homebody girls that like to just stay home.
There's a type for that.
There's a type for everyone.
Yeah, but I.
But even then, you wouldn't want somebody to put in effort in the relationship.
Yeah, he's just saying he wouldn't need much.
I feel, I guess, my rationale is: I feel like I put in the effort in the beginning, and then I'm just going to cruise for the rest of the relationship.
So you're saying you're putting effort in the beginning, but then after when you have her, like, fuck it.
No.
And then you feel like, all right.
Well, here's my view.
Because my experience when it comes to dating is I have to, let's say I match with a girl on the dating app.
Overwhelmingly, I have to send the first message.
I have to carry the conversation.
I have to move things forward.
I have to say, hey, would you like to meet for a drink?
I have to start planning the date.
I have to ask for a number.
I'm going to ask for the phone call.
I'm going to say, meet me here at this time.
Oh, it's so hard to do that.
Yeah, if that's the same thing.
That's convenient to say for someone who's probably never done it themselves.
I've done it myself.
It's so rare for a girl to say, to take that lead, to take the initiative.
Probably not on the first date, for sure.
Okay.
But it doesn't mean that I'm not going to put any effort on the second or third date or fourth date.
You already took initiative and first dates.
I've seen it many times.
Yeah.
I do talk to guys.
If I want it, I go for the dude.
You approach guys?
Yes.
Okay, well.
Shit that shit does.
Okay.
I do.
Fine.
You're an outlier.
Most women don't.
She's also from Brazil.
So, like, yes, women out here expect guys to go up to like.
I just like you just lose time.
You're going to wait around for a guy to come up to you.
If I'm interested, I'm going to show my interest.
And if the guy doesn't want it, okay.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, for me, at the beginning of the relationship, it feels like to me, I'm doing like 90%, 100% of the effort to trying to get to meet you.
It's very rare that a girl's gonna like propose, hey, let's, I'd like to meet you here at this time, da-da-da.
Like, or let me, let me also put it like this: if I match with a girl on a dating app, if I don't send the first message, most likely she's not gonna send the first message.
If I don't say, hey, would you like to grab a drink sometime?
She's never gonna propose it.
I could carry the conversation on and on, and she would just never propose to meet.
Maybe you should try in Brazil.
Maybe the South American women, I don't know.
But I'm in the United States, and my experience in the United States with women is if I don't take that initiative, it's just never gonna happen.
So I feel that you do the effort in the beginning, and in the relationship, the girl would put effort on it too.
I'd say it's just like 50-50.
It becomes 50-50.
Sort of.
But I'm not like, I'm not going to go.
I tend to not go above and beyond.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Girls are not going to be able to do it.
But that's the basic.
I mean, it's not really hard to just send a message and be like, do you want to go out for a date?
And then just book a restaurant.
Wow, how long does that take?
I mean, there is a burden on men to take the initiative.
So you say, oh, why isn't it so hard?
Then why don't women do it?
If it's not so hard, why don't you?
Because women are scared of rejection.
No, we do it.
That's exactly what she was saying.
Like, she approached some guys in the first date.
I did too.
He's saying, okay, let's have Stephanie.
Okay, let me ask you another question.
Who should go for the first kiss?
Like, Bombo.
Bumbo is not about that.
Do you want to initiate the first kiss?
Or do you want the guy to initiate the first kiss?
The guy or the kid.
Let me tell you this.
If I never initiated the first kiss with the girls I've kissed, the girls I've been with, they would have never done maybe out of desperation after 10 dates.
Brian, what the fuck?
Kiss me already.
Maybe.
Women will not initiate that.
We won't, but we'll give you the room and opportunity for you to do that.
I honestly, I like being the initiator of the kiss.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
But he's trying to make the point, like, the woman will not really do it.
And you guys all stayed quiet because you guys agree.
The guy is usually the one, or almost always the one that makes it.
No, I don't agree.
You don't agree.
So you've made the first kiss move.
Yes.
Out of how many times?
Almost every time.
Oh, no.
She's only been almost every time.
Kissing boys is different.
Well, that's true.
That is true.
You can make out with a bunch of people and never fuck them.
But I mean, you say, like, oh, it's not such a big deal to do that, but it corresponds with a risk of rejection at each individual step when we're, okay, asking for the date.
I mean, why?
I don't know why you're laughing, but like.
No, I was laughing at a comment.
Oh, okay.
But it's not hard to be like, Brian, what are you doing after this?
Like, that is not hard at all.
I think anyone could do that, right?
Doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl.
Well, I agree with you that it's not hard, but women don't do it.
Someone said generally speaking.
Someone said simply Tristan for that.
Well, that is like the masculine thing to do.
Like if you're having, if you're letting the girl make the first move, that is feminine of you.
Well, I think so.
Yeah, okay, you would not prefer that you gotta make the first move.
No, because you would prefer to make you would make the first move.
Yeah, because then I'm like, okay, like I'm clearly opening the door for us, Jokies, you know, like I'm initiating this, like this is okay.
Like I feel you get to be the gatekeeper.
Like for men right now, like right now, when we are, we are talking so much about like rape and like a lot of guys are more scared to like do it.
are more scared to do it.
So if I initiate it, it's like a sign that it's okay.
It's not that hard to read.
I mean, it's like pick up some signals, like read a sign, you know?
Like, you can give out signals without having to kiss the guy first.
Some guys just don't know how to pick up the signals, so they're just like, they never make the move.
Or they do the move when it's not a move.
What do you mean?
Oh, like she's not okay with it?
Oh.
Then she's going to make signals, or the guy just didn't read it right.
I don't know.
I just think, you know, we could probably continue talking about this forever, but it has we have been going long.
Reginald Welcome, $10 Super Chat.
Would guys be considered more desirable if they overstayed their body count?
Really quick, yes or no?
No.
Wait, what?
What is that?
They overstated, like, if they lied about their body count?
If they said it was really high?
No.
No.
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