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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
Go ahead.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
I'm 20.
I'm originally from Ukraine, but I study in San Francisco and Monero University.
My major is business.
Yeah.
When did you come here from the Ukraine?
2019.
Okay, so before the war.
Yes.
Ah, okay.
Gotcha.
Okay.
My name is Jubilee.
19 and I am a nail tech.
Welcome back.
Thank you.
Hi, my name is Jade, and I'm 30 years old, and I'm an executive assistant at a cardiology group.
Hi, my name's Taylor.
I'm 27 years old.
I advocate for men, mental health, and yeah, I'm a social media influencer.
Guys, she has, by the way, she's got a big TikTok following.
She's also on Instagram.
So yeah, she's probably popped up on your For You page at some point.
Go ahead.
I'm Savannah.
I'm 18, and all I'm doing right now is working.
Okay, rock and roll.
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All right, so we're going to go around the table one more time.
What is your current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
That does include seeking.
It used to be called Seeking Arrangements, but now it's Seeking.
So like for Sugar Daddies or whatever?
I'm single.
My longest relationship was like three months.
And yeah, I'm Hinge.
I was in Bumble before in Tinder, but I stopped that.
Your longest relationship was three months?
Yes.
And you've, okay, and you've only been on Hinge?
No, I've been on Bumble.
Oh, Bumble, excuse me.
Yeah, sorry, but I'm done with that.
And now I'm only on Hinge, yes.
So the longest three months?
Yes, I'm traveling.
Well, you're here since 2019, right?
No, I was traveling.
I was traveling.
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Go ahead.
I am sort of single.
I'm not really sure what's going on.
My longest relationship was a year, about a year, a little over that.
And I'm not on any dating apps anymore.
I'm single, and I've never been in a relationship, and I'm not on any dating apps.
You've so never been in a relationship?
No.
What's the, I guess, the longest period of time that you've dated someone?
I was seeing someone like on and off for like a year.
And that was, it wasn't a relationship, though?
No, we were just hooking up.
Okay, just hooking up.
Okay.
So, and that's the longest consecutive period of time that you've been seeing somebody.
Okay, all right.
And I've been in a six-year relationship.
What was the other question?
I'm sorry.
Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
Single, no dating apps, and six-year relationship was my longest.
When did that end?
Oh, this was years ago.
The recent one I was in was two years, but that was like 2014, 15, like that.
That was years, years ago.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
I think I'm talking to someone.
I don't know.
My longest relationship was like a year-ish.
And then I'm on Tinder and Hinge.
You think you're talking to someone?
I don't know.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I'm bad at like communicating with guys.
Are you hooking up with him?
No.
But you're talking to him?
I've spent the night at his house.
I've hung out with him multiple days in a row.
I was at his house for New Year's Eve and we only hooked up once.
And I talk to him like every day.
So I think we are.
Oh, wait.
Okay.
But you haven't seen him since?
I haven't seen him in a few weeks because I've been busy and I haven't been able to drive to see him because he lives like an hour and a half away.
Wait, okay, so this is like a medium distance relationship?
Yeah.
Where does he live?
He lives kind of by Simi Valley-ish.
How old is he?
I don't want to say.
He's not a heat.
No he's older.
He's not that much older.
How old?
Just say, come on.
He's like, he's turning 22.
Why is that?
Because I don't know.
That's too old for you.
Because I usually don't date people older than my sister, who's 20.
It's not a huge.
You're 18, right?
Yeah.
But I feel like it's weird because my sister is 20.
I don't.
I find it kind of pretty weird.
It's normal.
They both really like each other.
So I.
Well, my big qualm is that he lives an hour and a half away.
He also goes to college two hours away.
And he's going back to college Saturday.
Wait, so three and a half hours total?
Yeah.
So he's an hour and a half away, and then he's going for a couple of years.
Like two hours from here for college.
Oh, from here for college.
Okay.
Yeah.
Why?
Because I like him.
There's no guys in Santa Barbara?
No.
No.
Apparently.
Not that we want a relationship.
I've tried.
Okay.
All right.
I don't know.
The most important thing in a relationship, it's not love.
It's not communication.
It's not loyalty.
It's convenience.
You know?
Right?
It's bullshit.
Like, if they live within walking distance to you, it's going to go the distance.
Okay, anyways.
So a lot of you said you were single.
But in today's day and age, what does, I guess, single, what does that really mean?
You know?
So.
You're staring at me.
I'm scared.
Yeah, all of you said you're single, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so are you truly single?
What do you mean by truly single?
Like, are you kind of talking to a guy?
Is there a guy in the picture maybe hooking up?
No, I talk to the guys.
I don't hook up.
You don't hook up?
No, I don't.
Have you ever hooked up?
Yeah, I did.
Oh, okay.
You've been in the past.
Yes.
Okay.
It was a mistake, more or less.
I mean, not a mistake, mistake, but like, I just don't do like, you know, like with Tinder kind of stuff where they know what they call it sneaky link in the US.
I was so confused when I get to know that.
Yeah, and I'm coming from different cultures, so I guess for me, it was very weird to see that happening.
But yeah.
Jubilee can have you pop off the hair.
It looks fine.
But yeah.
Just put him on the table.
When's the last time that you went on a date?
Last week.
Last week you went on a date.
When's the last time you hooked up?
Last week?
No.
No, it was beginning of November.
Okay.
And I was seeing the guy for months.
Oh, of course.
Jubilee, what about you?
I started talking to a guy a few weeks ago, and we just met on Tuesday because he was in Japan because he's in the Navy.
I deleted my dating apps.
I really like him.
I'm not talking to anyone else.
I'm not interested in anyone else.
So.
I'm not.
You act like.
No, I'm just happy for you.
It seems like every show you've been on.
Okay, no, this is a good one.
This is the good one.
I swear this one is really good.
There's a new guy every single time.
I know.
Okay, but this is a good one.
I like this one a lot.
So he's in the Navy.
Yes.
How old is he?
20.
Is he buff?
Yeah.
Okay.
And I was with him this morning.
You were with him this morning?
Yeah, he slept over last night.
Okay.
How long is he in town for?
Oh, he lives in Port Wainemi.
Oh, so it's not that far.
He comes to see you.
Well, she, I don't drive, but she drove me to see him Tuesday.
Tuesday.
I slept over Tuesday.
She hung out with us for a little bit and then I was with him all Wednesday.
I left last night and then he's like, oh, like, I want to see you.
And I was like, okay, then come over.
And then he drove 45 minutes and stayed over there.
He's stationed in Japan?
No.
He was deployed there for six months.
Oh, he's deployed in Japan.
Okay.
But he just got back for, he's going to be here for a year.
And then where's he going after that?
Do you know?
He isn't now, yeah.
Okay.
Do you think he had, well, he's not gone there, but I was going to say, if he's in the Navy, if he's going all over the place, do you think he's going to be when he's deployed or whatever?
Do you think he's going to be loyal?
That's a year.
That's a year.
It's in a year.
I have no idea.
Okay, whatever.
They'll be the next guy.
Okay, so I'm curious about you.
So you're 30, never had a boyfriend, but there was a guy that you had an on and on, excuse me, on again, off again relationship.
I mean, it wasn't really a relationship.
I only saw him like five times.
Oh, you only, when you said, you only saw him in person five times?
Yeah.
Was it kind of a distance thing?
No, he lived in LA.
Oh, you just.
Was he busy?
Were you busy?
He was really busy.
And yeah.
So it was just like when he was for convenience, like what do you think about?
That's not good.
If a guy's always busy, never makes time for you, that says a lot.
Same thing with a woman.
That's not good.
They like you.
They'll make a lot of time for you.
Trust me.
Interesting.
Okay.
And so why, I guess why is it you haven't had a boyfriend?
Why do you think?
Well, I think it's because I grew up like, I was raised in a pretty religious home.
So I was saving myself for marriage.
And then my parents got divorced when I was 26 years old.
And that kind of just like popped my whole little bubble that I was in.
And I realized I didn't want to get married.
So I so then I was like, why am I saving myself for marriage if I'm not going to get married?
Okay, so you were a virgin until you were 26?
Yeah.
Okay.
I had never been kissed either.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Okay.
Congrats.
That's good.
You're married, dude.
That's beautiful.
But then your parents got divorced and then so you were religious.
Are you no longer religious?
No, I'm not.
I'm spiritual in a sense that I believe there's like a God and like a higher power, but I don't follow a religion anymore.
Haram!
Oh, wow, that's really loud there.
He actually lowered to 70.
So were you a Christian or?
I was Christian.
Okay.
But no longer.
You're spiritual.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so first kiss at 26, lost your virginity 26.
That's rare.
You're shocked.
I'm a little surprised.
Although, I mean, I've known a few.
And so how has dating been for you?
It's been a vague question.
It's been pretty bad.
It hasn't been the greatest experience, but I feel like it's because right when I was ready to start dating, it was kind of like hookup culture.
So, and I just like jumped on the apps and I was like, I'm going to meet people on here.
And yeah, just like a lot of hookups.
You had a lot of hookups.
How many?
Like a lot.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
Like, can you, you want to give us a range, a number range?
Like, my body count?
Sure, if you want.
I lost track after 20.
Oh.
Oh, my God.
Oh.
You have more than me?
Oh my god.
You lost track after 20.
Yeah, but I don't think it's over 30.
Okay, so between 20 and 30.
you know what at 30 it's not terrible but you did lose your i mean it's for for southern california Okay, so.
Question.
So when you lost your virginity at 26, did you like wait, or was it like you just wanted to lose it right away?
I feel like, yeah, I just kind of went head first.
Wait, sorry.
Wait for it.
So was it a one-night stand?
Yes.
When you lost your virginity?
Yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
It happens.
Did he know you were a virgin?
Did you tell him?
I don't remember.
Oh, were you tanked?
No, no, no, I wasn't.
Oh, you just don't remember if you had told him?
Yeah.
Okay.
But you were not under the influence of any alcohol, methamphetamine.
Nope.
Mescaline, peyote.
Damn.
Nope.
Completely sober.
Completely sober.
Okay.
Just curious.
So of all the, you said 20 to 30, right?
Have those been mostly one-night stands?
Or has there been any friends with benefits?
Like 90% of them were one-night stands.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good times.
But I've met some decent guys, too, that were nice.
On a scale of one to ten, how crazy are you?
Not in the bedroom, I just mean generally speaking.
I just feel like I'm living life, dude.
She's living life.
Because you said you're spiritual.
Like, we talking heart chakras.
What are we talking about here?
No, just like I believe like there's a higher power and everything, like energy and like there's like an energy to people.
I feel like you'd, you seem like you'd be in a cult.
No offense.
I get like cult member vibes from you.
I mean that in the nicest way possible, by the way.
Are you so you're in a cult?
No.
She never answered it yet.
You gotta say no right away.
Okay, okay.
Yoga?
Do you do yoga?
No, I don't know.
No yoga.
Pilates?
No.
Pilates is.
I like to say Pilates.
I'm trying to figure you out.
Yeah, she lives in there.
Oh, she likes it.
Okay.
Okay, we'll come back to that.
We'll come back.
Go ahead.
And as far as me, the last time I did anything, it's kind of embarrassing since my ex, a year ago.
It could be longer than a year, man.
Just a little closer to the microphone.
It's been a year since I've done anything.
Okay.
And I don't do one-night stands at all.
I don't believe in that.
I'm traditional in a sense.
So, yeah.
Okay, got it.
It's been a week and a half.
Is that the question?
Wait, is that the question?
Yeah, I think I got.
Yeah, I forgot exactly what it was.
Are you truly single?
You kind of talked.
You said you already said that you had been seeing a guy.
Okay, very cool.
So, wow, I'm really interested in the whole 30, never had a boyfriend.
That's really unique.
So we're going to go around the panel on something here.
Let's see.
Sorry, guys.
Hold on.
I'm pulling this back up.
By the way, sorry for the delay, guys.
We had four no-shows, which is a record for us.
Some dude.
Dude.
The girls know.
Like, he, I don't know if he was trolling, but he said he was here.
We couldn't find him.
Anyways, and then three other girls no showed.
So sorry for the delay there, guys.
It's kind of hectic before the show started.
So, okay.
Oh, first question.
We're going to do an easy one, just a little easy one.
Would you date a guy who wore a toupee?
A little easy question.
Would you wear a guy who wore a toupee?
So, like, it's a fake hair piece.
Yeah, it's a bald in the middle.
It's like a top.
We'll start with you, Savannah and then we'll go around.
If they lied to me about it first, no, but if they told me straight up, yes.
Okay.
Yes, I would.
We wear makeup, braids, fake nails, makeup, all this crazy stuff.
So, yes, I would.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, I would because I feel like his personality is what matters.
Okay.
Yeah, I would.
I don't care.
Yeah, me too.
I don't care much about guy appearance.
So he's bald.
Yeah.
We're the wig basically everybody.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
We're all like, yeah.
Good luck on you.
I know you were looking for something spicy, but not the cap.
Come on.
Come on.
Team Tate.
Come bald.
Oh, okay.
They'd all date a guy who wore toupee.
All right.
So let me get these soup chats and then we'll continue on.
So.
Sorry, guys, I'm all frazzled.
All right, we have Zoroslast11 with the $10 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Knowing these facts, one-fourth of women take antidepressants.
You lose 90% of your eggs by 30.
The saddest demographic of people in the West is 42-year-old women making 50K, no kids, family.
what age would you get married slash have kids go ahead I can do it tomorrow if there's a guy.
You can have kids tomorrow.
Yeah.
Okay.
If I'm ready, like if we're in the right relationship where there is an established foundation.
I want to get married before I'm 30, and I don't want kids.
Don't want kids.
What about you?
Do you want?
I don't want to get married, and I would have a child when I feel like I'm financially secure.
Okay.
I would love to get married, like, in all honesty.
I can do it now or before 30.
I'm cool with that.
Have kids.
Yes, of course.
I love kids.
I'd like to get married before I'm 30.
I fucking hate babies.
I don't like them.
They freak me out.
But I would adopt.
I really want to make a video.
Huh.
Okay.
All right.
By the way, guys, we have a new.
We're testing out TTS.
The trigger, it's a bit on the higher end, but if anybody, I think it's the TTS text-to-speech trigger is 69.
So anything 69 or up will trigger TTS.
Just FYI, guys.
All right, we have Zoris Lost 11.
Thank you for the subsequent $10 Super Chat.
Let's say you've been with a man for five plus years.
He's gonna take you on a trip.
Bruv, why do you format your...
Is this just...
Okay, anyways.
He's gonna take you on the trip and possibly propose, but then find evidence he used to hook up with a man and on rare occasion for pay.
Would you feel weird to break up with him?
So, okay, hold on.
We have to, let's edit this really quick.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to parse how.
I think he's trolling.
Can you write normally, Zoroslaws?
He's going to take you on a trip and possibly propose, but you find evidence that he's hooked up with men on rare occasions for pay.
So he's gay for pay.
Yeah, okay.
You find out your boyfriend, you've been dating him for five years.
He hooks up with men from time to time for cash for money.
Why are you looking at me?
Because I think.
I dated the guy that was gay.
Okay.
No, I'm just, you know, the tattoos draw my attention, maybe.
So would that be a deal breaker for you?
Go ahead.
First of all, I would never date anybody more than two years.
That's my deal breaker.
If he doesn't propose after two years, I'm out.
If the guy doesn't propose within two years, it's a rap.
I'm out, yes.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
Hmm, okay.
Yeah, I can do it.
No.
But what about the whole guy paying for the dudes?
Or sorry, him getting paid to sleep with two.
Just go back to two years.
I should insert two years then.
Because he'll do it after two years.
So say a guy is Five years Yeah.
Well, okay.
But I think the main thing was you find out your boyfriend, let's say it's a year and a half, you find out a year and a half in that he's hooking up with men for money.
Would you break up with him?
Would you break up with him?
I think it depends.
I would probably do the therapy first.
You would do therapy first.
Yes, because there is something missing in the relationship if he went for something else.
So if he doesn't propose to you under two years, that's a no-go.
But if he's getting pounded by other men for money, that's – it could work out.
it could work out that's not in the come on okay Okay, your boyfriend.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Your boyfriend of a year and a half tells you he slept with other women for money.
Do you stay with him or do you break up with him?
I believe there is reasons why people cheat.
And I would like to know why he did what he did and if he really regrets what he did.
Oh, there was something missing in the relationship because if everything is great, if you like the pie, you don't go and eat other pie.
So there was something missing that made him go somewhere else.
And I mean, if we're talking about healthy, adequate people who just happen to make a mistake or continuous mistake or whatever.
But I think there's always a chance for a second chance.
So you'd be okay with a long-term partner or your husband.
Let's say it was just purely sex.
You'd be okay with him cheating on you.
I'm not okay with him cheating on me.
What I'm okay with is I choose the person and we're in it together.
Are you talking about threesomes?
What?
You said you choose the person.
No, I'm saying I choose, like, if he's my husband and he's cheating on me, I chose that person.
Okay.
And I chose to have a relationship with that person.
So I committed.
And I believe it's like a friendship thing.
It's similar to that.
If it's a continuous thing and he doesn't think he did a mistake or you can't solve that, that's the essence of the person.
That's when you leave.
But when people check because there's something missing in a relationship, I believe you're two adults who can't work in that.
Okay, because some women are okay, like if their husband are, I mean, this is kind of the whole thing with Andrew Tate.
Why is your brow shaking?
If the guy is providing everything, he's the breadwinner, he's high status.
Some women will tolerate infidelity.
They're the main girl, but he's just hooking up with other chicks.
He's not providing financially for them.
It's just purely physical sex.
I don't think sex can be purely physical if you continuously swear.
Some guys it can be.
I mean, but then there's, that means there's something wrong with the sex we have.
By the way, I'm not saying that that's a good thing.
I'm just saying that some men operate that way.
And I was asking you because you seemed semi like you tolerate, you might tolerate.
I'm not saying I'm tolerate.
Of course, it's like, it's disgusting.
Okay, all right, gotcha, gotcha.
Okay.
Are we talking about prior to the relationship or during the relationship?
Two different things.
During the relationship.
Oh, okay.
Then, yeah, no, it's over.
Okay.
Yeah, I would rake up with them, but I would want to have a discussion because I feel like if I was dating the person for five years, they're like really, like, I love them.
So I would want to make sure they're okay.
During your on-again, off-again situationship or whatever, were you also seeing other guys during that period too?
Or was it for that year period?
Was it just him?
I was seeing other people too.
Okay.
So you said you don't want kids, correct?
No, I mean, if it happens, it happens.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
Oh, okay, but you don't want to get married.
Excuse me.
Right.
You don't want to get married.
Are you monogamous?
Or could you be monogamous?
Yeah, I could be.
Okay.
You're not like Pauli or what's an E ⁇ M, ethical non-monogamy?
Nope.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'm super big on loyalty and I'm well off.
So if my partner needed money, he could ask me at any moment.
I don't care what it is.
So the fact that you have fun dip in your mouth and you're not telling me and I find out that's cheating, I don't like that, so it's a no.
Fun dip?
Yeah.
I don't know if I could say, you know, a private word.
Yeah, sorry.
I just said it's a fun dip.
I would break up with them, but how much are they getting paid?
Dang.
He's a cheap prostitute.
Let's say like 300 bucks for a sack.
I would break up with him no matter what, but I just wanted to know.
Okay.
All right, Zorus Lost.
Thank you for the degenerate question.
Let's see here.
We have another dude, Zorislost, single-handedly supporting the show, man.
Appreciate it.
We have, let's see.
Sorry, guys, I'm just checking something on my computer.
$10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
The 30-year-old is huge proof that Western society is a failed society.
She's probably peer-pressured to lose it by other women, and now she's a lost cause.
Women, your past body count matter to most men.
Your response to Zoros Lost?
I don't think I'm a lost cause.
It's not very nice.
Do you want to shoot some shots?
Clap back.
He's clap back.
Thank you.
Give him the fire, girl.
Give him the fire.
Come on.
He doesn't deserve my attention.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Shots fired.
You don't deserve her attention, Zorus Lost.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the Super Chat.
And then we have Chaz here.
Oh, wait.
Whoops.
Did another.
Wait.
Did we?
Did it get unstarred, Eric?
Can you try to find that super chat?
Wasn't one day.
Oh, can you?
Was that the one?
Yeah, pull it up.
Chaz, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Good to see you, man.
We're going to get you in the studio soon.
The cultist bag, 30 bodies in four years, same record as Bundy.
Hashtag legendary.
Your response, Jade.
One utility.
It's going broke, dude.
Come on, Jade.
Fire some shots.
I don't know what to say.
I don't want to give them any attention.
Yeah, see bomb.
Oh, I don't want it.
All right.
Jubilee, you do it.
No, I'm kidding.
Some broke ass bitches, dude.
Chaz, thank you for the super chat.
Okay.
Hold on, guys.
I need to check one thing on my computer here.
I'm going to talk about height.
By the way, guys, like I said, we do have TTS enabled for 69 and up.
All super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
Bricks in.
We'll read Answer Soup Chats.
$10 and up.
Eric, you can pull that up.
No.
All right, this is Cash.
Oh, my little brother.
No.
Cash, get off of this right now.
Cash, you don't need to see this stuff.
Oh, no.
I got to leave.
Your little bro?
How old's your bro?
16.
Yikes.
Okay.
Hey, Jubilee, it's Cash really enjoying the podcast.
I'm Jubilee's little brother.
Yo, is he also blasted with tats?
No, I just saw him.
He's super sweet.
He's really sweet.
You just saw him?
Yeah, he lives in Colorado with my mom.
Colorado, Rip?
He lives with.
Oh, your ex-boyfriend.
Do you want to just remind people that that's?
No, my little brother doesn't know anything.
So he's not blasted with tats?
No.
Okay, fine.
Fair enough.
No.
Cash, leave, please.
Yeah, don't change up your answers because you're a little bro.
Oh, no, I have to.
I got to censor myself a little bit.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Question for you guys.
Do you wish that guys were more straightforward?
I think yes.
Oh, sorry.
I'm.
Yeah.
100%.
Yeah.
Men are already straightforward.
Women can't handle the truth.
I can't handle the truth.
She proved it to me.
Thank you.
Thank you, baby.
I cry very, very easily.
So, I mean, like, depends on how straightforward about which things, but about, like, relationships.
Yes, I wish they would be more straightforward about that stuff.
Tay, would you agree with the following statement that women would rather hear comforting lies than how's it going?
Women would rather hear comforting lies than harsh truths.
Yes, of course.
I don't think so.
No, I love honesty.
Yes.
Okay.
I think, no, it's just in my life, I think guys prefer to ghost girls.
They don't tell, oh, we're just going to mention something.
So they prefer to never, let's say, reach again if you went on the, let's say, one date or two dates with him.
that's not straightforwardness that's like something yeah Do you guys ghost you a lot?
I've never been ghosted.
I think it has to do with, no offense, I think it has to do with a lot of how you are on the date.
Like, are you engaging with me?
So you guys are a little closer to the mic.
So yeah, can you answer that?
Oh, more?
You're good.
I don't think my personality has anything to do with the personal values of somebody.
Because the way you present yourself to society is your values.
It has nothing to do with who am I. You can tell me whatever you think is right, right?
Like, I'm not good enough, or there's other things around, or whatever, but be straightforward about that.
But people prefer to silence and don't say a thing and disappear rather than like say what they actually think.
No.
That's not, I don't think that's true.
Oh, boy.
Sorry, I'm.
I don't like that he's watching.
Okay, so you know what?
We're going to come back to that one actually.
Have you guys heard about these Facebook groups where it's called Are We Dating the Same Guy?
Has anyone heard of those?
No, but I'd love to see.
I just saw the TikToks about that.
Okay.
Basically, guys, if you don't know, these Are We Dating the Same Guy groups, it's Facebook groups with women in various cities.
It's not in every city, but most major cities will have a Facebook group.
And the girls will either post their Tinder matches, not even guys that they've met up with, and say, hey, is anybody dating this guy?
And so none of you are in any of those kind of groups.
No, no.
Okay.
Do you think that I've heard one guy contact me?
He's like, hey, you got to talk about this because it's kind of to some degree an invasion of privacy because these people are posting what is sort of an attempt to look out for themselves and other women.
They honestly just tend to just start shit talking the dudes on these forums, posting lies and stuff.
Do you think that that's an appropriate thing to do?
I mean, I think it's everybody's business what they're doing and if that's up to their standard of how they should behave in society, they can do whatever they want.
I think there's a difference between like talking to different people and actually dating.
Like if you're actually like exclusively talking to someone and they're on Tinder and then they kind of find out, then like it's fine.
Like me and her have like matched with the same people.
We like fuck with them too, which will be fun.
It's so much fun.
We'll be saying that to each other.
Okay.
Anyways.
Okay.
Interesting.
My only thought that came to mind was like, I don't know how people have time to like go through these forums and find their, like go through all, scroll through all these.
Is it like a list of people?
I think they're just like posting maybe pictures of like just people they're talking to and be like, hey, is anyone else?
They post pictures and it's either is anybody else dating this person or have you had like a bad experience dating this person.
And I have not seen any of the groups, but I've heard and I think I've seen some screenshots.
It's mostly just like shit talking the guy.
Because I mean, I think we've all been on bad dates, right?
Has anyone been on everyone?
I mean, or you like maybe not have, it's not like a traumatic experience, but maybe you didn't have a good date with someone, maybe whatever, they ghost you and there's this temptation to just shit talk the people on these groups.
And I don't know.
Depends if they deserve it or not.
Okay.
All right.
Let's get the super chat.
Here, let me get these super chats really quick.
Yo, Mr. K, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Hey, Julie, it's all of Cash's friends.
Ha ha ha, JK, don't censor.
Z, $10 Super Chat, two-part question.
One, what are the lady standards of a man's income, height, and fitness?
Two, are the ladies, what are the ladies' height, waist size, and hip size?
We're not going to do the second one, but we can ask their height at least.
I mean, if you guys want to answer, that's fine.
So what are your standards?
Minimum income, height, fitness, and what's your height?
Okay, my height is 5'7, I guess.
5'6'5'7, something in between.
Income?
I think it's some about the income.
I would say it's about the ambition and educational background for me.
What else?
The height standard?
Anything my height and higher, I don't care much about height, to be honest.
And fitness.
Yeah, I'm into sports, so it's like a match of interest for me.
So yeah, totally.
Okay.
Height-wise, I'm talking to someone who is just above my height, which I'm fine with.
How tall are you?
I don't know, I guess, anymore.
I thought I was like 5'5, 5'6, but I guess not.
I guess I'm a little shorter than that.
Okay.
Minimum income?
I guess around the same as me, which is a couple grand a month.
Okay.
So like nothing like, I don't want you to be like a broke bum.
Wait, so just to go back to you for a sec, you're 20, right?
Yes.
And so you said it's not so much about a number, but it's about ambition.
Yes.
But like, let's say, do you know what you want to do career-wise?
Yes.
What's that?
So I worked in the World Bank in the past and in a real estate, so that's going to be like, I don't know, 100K a month plus.
Oh, months or a year plus.
Okay.
By the time you're in your mid-20s or late 20s or something like that, 30.
No, I'm talking like after graduation of first.
Okay.
Okay.
So do you want a partner that will match the level of income?
Because I don't work now, right?
So right now it's different.
But when you are earning.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, somebody who has to match my level and go up, right?
Okay, so you're upon graduation at 22, you're going to be earning 100K.
No, I'm grading this year, so 21.
Okay, at 21, you're going to be earning 100K.
Yeah.
From the jump?
From Wall Street, yeah.
Okay.
So you want a 22-year-old guy that's making 100K?
I don't date guys my age.
How old?
26.
What's the oldest guy you've dated?
35.
35?
Okay.
Good times.
I got a chance.
Well, I'm not 35.
You're in your 30s.
I'm in.
Early 30s.
Okay, so.
Okay, but even then, I mean, I think the median income is something like $50,000.
But, I mean, you're going to be on Wall Street, so I feel like maybe you'll figure it out.
Okay, so oldest guy you said is 35.
Yes.
But you typically prefer dating older men.
Yes.
Why is that?
Understanding what they want, maturity, some level of well-aroundness, understanding of the world, traveling.
Have you ever been on a yacht?
No.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Oh, are we back to me now?
Yes, we're back to you.
Okay, yeah, income was around mine.
I probably make, I don't know.
I mean, I just know monthly.
I don't really know year-wise because my job isn't like fully consistent because I could take breaks whenever I take time off whenever I want.
Fitness-wise, I mean, I don't work out or anything.
So as long as you're healthy, I guess.
Like, you don't have to go to the gym fucking for four hours a day.
Yeah, anyways, but...
Minimum income height and the fitness one, whatever.
Okay.
I don't think there's, I don't have a minimum income.
I just feel like if I like people with ambition and like that are passionate about something.
Ambitious guy, but he makes 20K a year.
I mean, I know.
Very ambitious, but 20K a year.
His ambition will get him somewhere.
You know, I...
And I can take care of myself.
Okay, all right.
You know, the interesting thing with the whole ambition thing, I often hear women say they want an ambitious guy.
And I think that's not entirely wrong, but my take on that is, is that women actually aren't attracted to ambitious men.
Women are attracted to ambitious men who have reaped the rewards of that ambition.
If you're ambitious and you're a bum, it doesn't like it's not really, I mean, some girls will build with you, but like.
I just like to see like ambition and like a plan.
Like he knows, you know, he has like a sense of direction where he wants to go.
Okay.
What if he's a cult leader?
No, that's okay.
I'm good.
You wouldn't date a cult leader?
He's really ambitious.
Thank you.
Listen, he's got hundreds of zealots and followers, and they're just.
No, it's okay, I'm good.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
So, as far as the income, I'm not really too stressed about that.
I have my own income.
I come from a traditional household, so we're like all pitching together.
As long as he's ambitious and knows where he's going in life, I can always help him.
Height-wise, I'm 5'8, so I want somebody at least my height or taller.
I'm just looking for loyalty, a write or die, somebody who's gonna have my back.
Okay, and did you say how tall you were?
Yeah, 5'8.
5'8.
Okay, Savannah.
I mean, I was raised in a household where I was always provided for.
So I don't make that much money.
So I've kind of just been used to that.
So I'm gonna- You mean your dad?
Both my parents.
Okay, your parents.
Like, both of them, they've always paid for all my stuff and stuff, which I'm very thankful for.
I bought our pair of shoes yesterday.
Yeah, I'm wearing them.
So, like, I don't know, at least don't be lazy.
I don't mind if I have to pay for my own stuff because I can do that.
But, like, don't be lazy.
Like, at least make money, have a job and stuff.
Height, I'm not short.
I'm like, I think I'm like 5'5, 5'4.
So, like, be taller than me.
I prefer taller guys, like, 6-foot, but if you're shorter, I don't really care.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'5.
5'5?
So 6-foot minimum.
No, no, I don't care if you're shorter than that.
I just like taller guys, like 6'.
Sure, okay.
But, like, I wouldn't be biased.
Okay.
All right.
Interesting.
Okay, so I'm curious about you coming back to you.
So you DM'd us, you wanted to come be on the show.
Was there a specific reason?
Is there a specific thing that you wanted to discuss?
Or just saw the show, wanted to.
How did you find us, by the way?
I think it was a TikTok recommendation.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just wanted to talk.
Okay.
And it's very interesting.
I came from Ukraine, right?
And I was like pretty much formed as a personality.
And I come in and they tell me you can date multiple people at the same time.
You can, you know, there's no boundaries in that regard.
And like the sneaky lane kind of language and all this kind of stuff.
And I was shocked.
And I was just curious for me to hear like kind of a different perspective on how people build a relationship, specifically like Eastern society versus Western society.
Yeah.
What is the difference?
I think in Eastern society, it's more traditional in a sense of, you know, man provides for women.
And, you know, women are okay with opening the doors and like they don't pay for anything.
And nobody like, there's no debates about the fact that they should pay for that or like that they should contribute.
Where here it's like very much a hit a debate.
Another thing is that you start seeing somebody, you go on the first date and that's kind of like you don't even actually talk.
You don't have a conversation whether you're dating.
You kind of like start it off.
That's how you start a relationship.
Like here it's like a conversation.
There's a difference between being exclusive in a relationship, being exclusive not in a relationship.
And I was very shocked when I heard that.
And I was like, it took me a while to kind of like understand the logic of all of it.
So in Ukraine, it's more, well, it's more traditional.
Yeah.
And I mean, that makes sense to me.
And here, it's fucked up.
Yes.
Okay.
Interesting.
And so, and had you been, because you said you moved here in 2019.
You're 20 years old, so you must have been 17 when you left Ukraine.
Yes.
About 17.
Yes.
Had you dated a bit when you were in Ukraine or just.
Yeah, I dated one guy in the last year of high school.
Do you prefer Ukrainian men or California guy?
California men?
I prefer Europeans, to be honest.
Okay.
But it depends.
I met some very nice American men who had like, who grew up in a European household, like whose parents moved to US and they like the Americans, but they they have different, I guess, views on things.
Okay, interesting.
And you're you said your longest relationship that was a three-month one.
Was that in Ukraine or was that here?
No, it was here, okay.
Why did he dump you?
It was a mismatch of values.
That's why he dumped you.
We kind of both understood.
I'm making some assumptions here, but you can tell he dumped me, he I don't care who dumped whom.
I think we both understood that we don't see the same future together.
Like he wanted to live in apartments, I wanted to live in a house, and it was like didn't match on certain things.
Okay, and you said you kind of want a more traditional thing.
Do you want to continue working as you get older or would you want a guy who's a provider?
I think it's a conversation in a relationship where you talk and say you know, I can be totally a housewife and I can as well pursue a career, but that's just a conversation of what two people find convenient for each other.
Okay gotcha, what was the original question?
Yeah, I fucking forgot.
I don't know what was it.
I have no idea.
I don't think there was enough game to be going to get these soup chats while we got them.
Okay, we have, uh yo, we have cash with the Canadian ten dollars jubilee.
How could you?
I'm literally crying right now.
I'm telling mom dad grandma, I thought my big sister was a good person, not an easy clap for the fall.
It can't be Canadian because someone's posing.
My brother texted me.
That's so funny.
I don't know what he said.
That's so funny.
I think that's Leonardo NiCaprio.
All right, we have Gus.
Thank you, the $10 soup chat leaving after two years is some 304 mentality.
Man's, man's dating strategy is to get the most women until we settle.
A woman's is to get the best men she can retain.
After y'all hook up, y'all ain't special.
Anybody want to respond.
Shoot shots to get the best of job.
This hard two.
All right, we have Frankie K here with the ten dollar soup chat.
They have no idea how hard it is to make six figures.
They act like six feet six, six figure men grow on trees.
They're all competing for the top 10 of men, but they wonder why they keep getting pumped and dumped.
Oh okay wow uh, response, um, I see how hard my parents work for six figures.
I know how hard it is.
Um, i've had to help them with the work at some point because they taught me how to do it.
I know how hard it is, so fuck you for that one.
I agree, six foot six is very hard to find.
I think i've never met someone who's over like six three, I think.
Wait, he's not.
He's saying six feet, six figure.
Oh yeah, I agree, that's well six okay, six feet.
To be six feet is like 15 of the population, and then to make six figures, that's another.
Uh ooh, we got Zentians in the chat hold, We'll get to that.
Actually, we'll just read it now if you want to pull it up, Eric.
Yo, Zentians, thank you for the big $50 soup chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Women don't build.
Their hypergamy is exacerbated by narcissistic and hedonistic lifestyles, quickly jettison anyone but the top 5 to 10% when they say as long as they're ambitious, excuse me, shows they don't accept men as they are, rather projects to improve, rather, projects to improve.
I mean, for some of us, we're kind of young, so like I don't expect someone to be already earning a lot of money and stuff.
I just want them to have like a realistic goal for their future and like actively working towards it.
Yeah, like a sense of direction.
Like they know where they want to go.
Yeah.
But isn't men also perceive women as a pictures?
What's that?
Isn't like men also pursue women as a pictures?
A picture?
Yeah, like a beautiful picture that they like to go out with to show their status in society.
A picture?
Like physically, just physically.
Yeah, like there is a competition the same way.
You know, women compete for the 10% who earn the highest and the men compete for those who look the most beautiful, whatever is their standard of beauty.
Well, beautiful women are much more common than high-earning, like high-status men.
Facts.
Okay, but at the same time, that's true.
By the way, Tay's my hype woman.
That's right.
And by the way, guys, Tay's going to be, we're going to have a very insane panel on Sunday.
Tay's going to be on that panel.
I'm feeling this probably be a bit more of a tame show tonight.
Not too much disagreement going on yet.
Maybe I need to say, I got to say some more controversial shit.
Did you change your days that you're doing?
We're going to switch to Sunday, Tuesday.
So, yeah, but Zentians, hey, thank you for the big, oops, wrong one.
Thank you for the big $50 Super Chat Man.
Appreciate it.
So your thing was that men also want to get the best that they can get to.
I think that's true, but I think the big difference is in the dating marketplace is women are able to secure sexual access from men that will never commit to them.
So women are chasing after really the top 10, top 20% of guys.
80% of women are chasing after the top 10, 20% of guys.
And men will gladly sleep with a girl with not having any interest in ever committing to her.
Whereas I think a lot of women, in order for you to be able to sleep with a guy, he's I mean, some women just, well, you're going to at least view him as like, okay, I could be in a relationship with this guy.
Yeah.
So, and also women, men's and women's sexual strategies are, sorry, I'm slurring my words here, guys.
Men and women's sexual strategies are different.
So, oh my, okay.
Sorry, the super chat distracted me, guys.
So men will gladly sleep with a girl that we view as less attractive than us.
It's not a problem.
I don't think it's about that.
You're saying that basically what happened is that the man is chased, will sleep with any woman there is, as long as they find her attractive in some way.
Well, the difference is, is, okay, women typically date across and up socioeconomic hierarchies and attractiveness, whereas men, we date across and down.
So, yes, are men, do men want the best option that they can get?
Yes, but here's the difference, is that a woman can sleep with a guy who's way more attractive than her, and he might keep her around, but he will never commit to her.
Whereas, like, a guy who's, most women are not sleeping with just for sport.
They're not sleeping with men that are less attractive than them or lower in terms of their socioeconomic status just for sport.
And they shouldn't be sleeping with them just for sport.
Men or women?
Women.
Shouldn't be sleeping with a man just for sport.
But here's the thing.
Why pass up the chance to sleep with a really attractive guy or a guy who's really high status?
Because maybe she might catch him, but most of the time that's not the case.
Or she's going to share him.
First of all, I don't think women should catch anybody.
Like, it's not like we are following.
It's that that, you know, men approach.
So it's a little bit different.
In my opinion, very subjective.
So that's why I think it's a little bit weird here that you're saying like somebody catches somebody.
Well, when it comes to if women are chasing after, like, unless a woman is realistic about what, you know, her status on the dating marketplace, a lot of women tend to be delusional about their own physical appearance.
They all think they're tens.
And so you're going to be chasing after a certain tier of guy.
That guy is never going to commit to you.
So if you want that guy, he's the prize.
Because beautiful women are really common.
But like tall, okay, if you want a guy who's six feet, you want a guy who's making over $100,000 a year, he's the catch.
He's the prize, I think, in that situation.
Possibly.
You want a high status.
If that's what you want, if you're willing to date a guy that's on your level, then I think you're both a prize.
But a lot of women are chasing after these really high status guys.
So I know you wanted to come in on something.
I was going to say something before what you first said.
So I believe that men look at women and just want a rarity.
They want a woman that's going to represent them in a great manner.
A lot of women, modern day women, feminists, they don't do that.
They ask for a lot and don't offer anything.
They don't cook.
They don't clean.
They're not traditional.
They have a high body count.
You can judge me on that, but it's facts.
Men want simple things, I feel like.
But women make it complicated.
I'm just saying in general, not just you.
No, I agree totally.
And I think that's how it's supposed to be.
And I don't see any problems with that.
Yes, exactly.
I honestly sometimes think that the men should get paid higher than the woman just because the way of a dating works, but probably going to get a lot of attacks on that.
Your face, whatever.
Yeah, your face.
It's on the phone.
Sorry, I got this.
Suspicious call.
Okay.
Did you have more to go?
Sorry, I didn't.
No, no, you're good.
Okay.
Okay, so let me get the rest of the super chats here.
But Zentians, thank you for that big $50 super chat, man.
I appreciate it.
Let me try to catch up and see where we were.
Did we do that one?
Yeah, we said we did that.
Did we do this one?
Yeah, yeah.
Mr. K, $10 Super Chat.
What if he's an ambitious mercenary?
Serious question.
What if he makes pretty good money, but he literally kills bad people for a living asking for my buddy?
No.
No.
Okay, if you're a mercenary, I mean, Navy, kind of.
It's different.
All right, yo, Davon Jackson, good to see you, man.
New Year, same cap from these women.
Ambition equals potential to earn good money.
Word.
Yo, we got Denny Ace.
Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Yo, it's Denny.
If height is a preference, something a man can't change.
But if a guy won't date a fat girl, something they can change.
Why is one a preference and the other is fat phobic or insecure?
Well, what do you guys think about that?
Let's start with Savannah.
I mean, I think they're both preferences.
I don't have any, I don't think it's fat phobic.
Okay.
He has a point, though.
Women judge a lot of men for their height, and then, no offense, the body positivity movement.
A lot of women are overweight and they think they're tense.
It's very unhealthy.
Yeah, I think it's a preference as well.
Yeah, maybe let me also word it like this.
Would you guys, if a guy said, hey, I don't want to date a woman who's obese or I don't want to date a woman who's fat, would you take issue with that?
Well, what does he consider as fat?
Like, would he consider me fat?
Yes.
Okay, well.
That would suck.
I mean, if he considers me fat, then I don't know why he's talking to me.
But if he doesn't want to date someone that's fat and he's talking to me, then why would he tell me that?
Sure.
Okay.
I've been told before I was a little too thick, before it didn't bother me.
Okay.
I'm fine with that.
It's a preference.
Sure.
I don't think I don't think I would like someone that would say that.
I don't think it's a very, I don't know.
I don't think it's a productive thought or like something naive.
Earlier you said you like the truth.
Yeah, but I mean.
That's the truth.
That's honesty.
But if they, I could choose not to like them, though, if they told me that.
That's true, but he's still being honest with you and he's being honest.
Remember, you said that earlier.
Yeah, but I don't mind if he says it, but I wouldn't like someone who says that.
They already commented on my role, so I mean, I don't know, man.
Would you also say that you wouldn't know how you feel or you'd feel maybe badly about if a woman said something similar, if she said she wouldn't date a guy who's short?
Yeah, I mean, I can see the double standard because I've heard many people say that, and it doesn't bother me as much as it would if someone says I wouldn't date someone fat.
And you know what's interesting about that, though, is you can control your weight, but you can't control your height.
True.
Jubilee, did you go?
I'm saying commenting on like weight.
They were already commenting about my roles, so I don't know.
Your what?
My role.
My roles might slunch down.
You're beautiful.
Poster check.
Go ahead.
The question is the height.
I told earlier that I don't really care about height.
Like, I thought about that before because I used to be like, oh, you know, 5'10 plus.
But I figured that's like perceiving people as objects other than who they actually are.
It's like choosing a car model.
That's wrong.
And I kind of like stopped doing that and giving everybody a chance to show who they are as humans.
Sure.
So you date a guy.
Would you date a guy shorter than you?
Sure, no.
I say my height.
Short enough.
Your height, right.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Yo, we got Z with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you for the answers.
Respectfully, if you want a guy that's six feet and up, provide for you.
Good income and in shape.
Your waist size should be at least 40% your height.
5'5, 26-inch waist.
Okay, thank you for the maths.
There, Z, much appreciated.
We got this one from our homie Zentience.
Dude, thank you so much.
And by the way, thank you so much for all the support last show, too.
You came in super clutch, man.
Thank you.
Black Ups with the $20 Super Chat.
Men are not delusional, so they won't go for a Victoria's Secret model if his looks and wallet ain't on point.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Actually, we have this comment here from Stiffler.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
We'll start with you.
Go ahead.
I would say I'm 8.
Okay.
Like a 7.
I would say I'm an 8.
I'm going to say a 7.
7.
Okay.
Fucking go ahead.
This question.
There we go.
Oh, my God.
With the tens.
Oh, my God.
Oh my God.
Well, you know what?
Maybe I shouldn't.
I mentioned the 10 thing earlier, so maybe that.
No, I think just a scaling is kind of a BS a little bit.
Why?
The scale?
From psychologies, it's not about what actual how you actually look.
I mean, there is some part of that, but it's like how you present yourself.
And like, there is a pretty woman who are told they're pretty, so they behave like a pretty woman.
And there's pretty girls who are told they're ugly, so they behave like ugly girls.
Those are the best.
I was just pissed about the last time.
Last time I was on here with the Australian, when she was like, everyone's a 10.
Oh, my God.
Which one?
The Australian girl.
That was the show you did.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
We were talking about it today.
Oh, yeah.
She was a doozy.
She was something.
Yeah.
She was something.
Yeah.
Wait, question.
So you have braces.
Yes.
Can you give this camera right here a little smile?
There we go.
Okay, so how long have you had braces for?
A year, year, and two months.
What's the sort of the response from men on that?
Do they dig it?
Do they not care?
Do some are like, whoa.
Some people ask questions like, when did you get it?
Or, you know, when are you going to take it off?
Some men don't ask.
I think it depends personally.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Huh.
All right.
We have Azul69.
Thank you for the $20 soup chat.
Hi, Brian.
Hope Tristan is okay.
Tristan?
Wait.
Tristan?
Who's Tristan?
Tristan.
Like, Tristan.
Oh.
Tristan?
Tristan.
Big Tristan.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened to him, but I don't think anything bad happened.
All that I know of.
Wait, Tristan?
Tristan, like.
The guy on the previous show?
No?
Was it the strong one that just like big Tristan?
Wait, am I. Sounds bad.
Like, that one bad way just feels really buff.
How am I forgetting who Tristan is?
He's the one, he was.
I don't know.
He's just.
Hot guy.
He's just.
Wait, Tristan.
The one who got back with his girlfriend.
We were talking about it.
That's Tristan.
Yes.
Oh, for some reason I was thinking his name was Tanner right now.
Okay.
Yo, hope Tristan is okay.
Why is that?
Please ask ladies' thoughts on Juggernaut Law.
Theory that unattractive women receive disproportionately high attention from men, often more than women of average attractiveness.
Wait, unattractive women more attention than women of average attractiveness.
By the way, what does that say or is it bad?
It's Fak Putin.
Ah, okay.
All right.
There you go.
Your guys' thoughts on.
It's true.
I agree.
I feel as though people think that when you're super attractive, that you already, you know, are full of yourself, things like that.
So people are scared to approach you or they think you have a partner.
And then social media hypes up all these twos and they think that they're 20s and they're really not.
So it's like really backwards with society.
Damn.
I agree.
And I think, I mean, he made the comparison between unattractive women and average women.
And I mean, I think it's maybe more so the case.
Average women get more attention than really beautiful women, too.
I agree.
All right, we have, let's see, Denny Ace with the $10 Super Chat skipped my last chat.
Did we?
Wait.
Or maybe did he send this?
I'm pretty sure we got his, oh, maybe we just, okay, I see.
I think we got it.
Men don't produce a pair bonding hormone when they have sex.
Sex is almost always for pleasure for men.
She also said possibly, yeah, it's possible to win the lottery, too.
What was this in response to?
Is it you?
I don't know what it was.
I think it was when someone said sex is only me.
I said that.
Oh, with the cheating thing.
Okay, I see.
I see.
Okay.
Denny, is this Denny from Jedediah?
Is this Jedediah, Denny?
Anyways, what's up, man?
Good to see you in the chat.
Welcome.
Also, we missed two super chats from last show.
People left them right at the end there.
Eric, on the Windows tab, there's, you should be able to see like a super chat window.
Let me know if you find it, Eric, because I want to answer these super chats because they came in right at the end, but I didn't get them last show.
So it's a window.
It's on the window tab.
Do you see it?
Are you scrolling through?
Oh, I see it.
Yeah, yeah, pull that up.
Oh, man.
Can you mouse wheel scroll up?
I can't see.
All right.
So, one down, one down.
Yeah, that's fine.
Yo, Lawrence Bullock.
I don't know if you're in chat, but thank you for the $10 super chat from last show.
Initiation for a man is mandatory.
Initiation for a woman is optional.
That was a response to something we were talking about yesterday: 3NOK, the apathy towards the effort a man takes to encounter and show some sort of vulnerability is ignorant.
Men putting themselves out there is not as casual as women play it off to be.
So just to give the context for that message, one of the girls said men should put in more effort.
And I said, well, we kind of do, especially in the initial stages, like asking for the first date, making the first move, planning the date, setting up the date, the whole initial courtship, courtship process.
And she said, well, what did she say?
She's like, is it really that much work?
And so I think that was in response to that.
But that kind of brings us back to our initial question that I had asked: do you think men should put in more effort when it comes to dating?
And I think you gave your answer right.
Did you?
Did you give an answer to that?
No.
What?
No.
Maybe at one point we like briefly talked about it.
Okay.
But I don't think we really talked about it.
All right.
Okay, I need to think of something controversial to say because you guys are too nice.
Sorry, we're kind of boring.
We have a story.
Surprise.
Oh, man.
Me and Seb have a story.
We do.
Okay, yeah, we'll do that.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
So it's happened on Christmas.
Cash, if you're watching, whatever.
So basically, on Christmas, I have Tinder Gold.
I did have Tinder Gold.
So I was looking at who has liked me, and I saw this guy who I, like, two or probably like three months ago, I had united on Snapchat because he was just, I had tried to make plans with him every single time.
I thought you were not on a date on the apps.
Sorry, no, sorry, this is like, I just had to leave Tinder like yesterday.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anyways, so this, this happened on Christmas.
On Christmas, I like saw that he had liked me, but I had unadded him on Snapchat like months ago because every time I try to make plans with him, we'll get up to like, oh my God, like, like, where are you?
Like, let's meet up.
And then he'll just kind of ghost me and just literally never respond, never say where he is, and never actually make the plan.
So when I, it got to that point, and he just kind of ghosted me, just never responded.
And on Christmas, I like matched with him just because I was like, okay, maybe I'll give him a second chance, whatever.
And he goes, check your Instagram DMs.
And I was like, okay.
So I took my Instagram DMs.
He goes, like, hey, like, Merry Christmas.
Like, I'm sorry how things, like, how I left things.
Like, my stepmom died, blah, blah.
And I was like, oh, I'm sorry for your loss.
He's like, oh, like, I would, like, I'm sorry about how I left things.
Like, I want to make it up to you.
I miss you.
I've never met this guy before.
Maybe had like not even a full conversation.
Are you arriving at the point soon?
Yeah, sorry.
You need a little backstory.
Okay, I've never met this guy before, and I don't have any connection with him really, besides that.
He just ghosted me.
Okay.
And it's a kind of a long story.
Not really.
Give us the plot synopsis of the story.
He DMs me saying that he misses me and that he has a Christmas gift for me, which is weird because I've never met him before.
So I was like, this is just kind of random and weird that I've never met you before and you have a gift for me.
Okay.
And then he's like, oh, yeah, like I could drop it off later.
And I was like, oh, no, like, I could, I'd rather go pick it up from you because I don't, like, I've never met you before.
I don't really want you at my house.
And me and her were driving around anyways.
And I was like, okay, let me come pick it up.
I know you live in Ivy.
We come out here and he didn't give me his address unless I asked like three times.
We asked like multiple times for his address.
He was like just on DP, like wouldn't get like we had to be persistent.
Yeah.
Like we were like, hey, what's your address?
And he would like ignore it and then we'd ask again.
He's like, I'll send a picture of where I am.
We're like, no, like we need the address.
Took him like three or four tries to get the actual access.
So he sends me with the gift.
I was like, can you leave it outside?
And I'll grab it.
He's like, okay, I'll send you a picture of where it is.
He leaves it in his apartment, like in his house.
And I was like, okay, he's like, just go through the back door.
Like, no one's home.
I'm going to work.
And I was like, that's just kind of weird.
And like, I, and the gift was a t-shirt and $20.
A used t-shirt.
Used t-shirt.
He probably like tossed it off his back or just out of the wash and just folded it and put $20 on it.
And I have like video proof of this too because I took videos because I was scared I was literally gonna get kidnapped.
And I asked him, Hey, are you home?
He's like, oh no, like, I just left for work.
And I was like, okay.
He's like, it's in there.
This door's open.
And I go and just, it was just, we walked in and grabbed it and left.
And I was really scared.
And then he's like, I have something else for you.
And I was like, no, thank you.
But I thought I was going to get kidnapped.
Some random guy just left me $20 in a t-shirt.
And I got it.
How did you think you're going to get kidnapped then if he gave you something?
It was a wait.
Hold on.
He gave you $20.
That was the story you wanted to tell.
Because it would know because the way it was set up was really creepy.
The DM was kind of weird.
I've never met him before.
And he's like, I missed you.
I would have paid you $10 to not tell that story.
Okay, then.
I was trying to.
Okay, never mind.
It would just be a little bit different.
Can somebody super chat $10?
I'm sorry, but it was creepy.
It was really odd in the moment.
I have a question.
How do you know you got it?
Can you tell when a guy is even being creepy then?
Because then that means you accuse everybody of being creepy.
No, it was actually like it would.
He gave her money, though.
No, it's like, if you tell, it's like not that creepy.
In the moment, it was just kind of like freaky.
Like, his DM was just weird in general.
That he texted me on Snapchat and he just really wanted me to see his Instagram DM.
Yeah.
I mean, like, hearing it, I can tell it's like, doesn't sound that good.
It was like really, really unnerving in the moment.
I've been through some stuff and then you're like, no, no, it was just really random.
I've never met him before.
And he randomly DMs.
He's like, I miss you.
I'm like, we've never met before.
We've never even like, I just never met him.
So I thought it was just really strange that he wanted to give me something that was a used t-shirt and $20, the most random shit ever.
I just think it was super.
I just thought it was super random.
Okay, okay, okay.
If a girl texted you that you've never met before, it's like, hey, I have a gift for you.
Go into my empty house when no one's home and grab it.
I wouldn't even go to the house.
I wouldn't.
We wouldn't do this.
We said, like, everyone where we were going.
We were like, we're just super curious.
I thought he was going to just be naked on the couch and shit.
No, I'm just saying.
It was a weird thing.
Like, if someone just you've never met before just says that, and I was like, okay.
I'll shut up now.
I just thought it was interesting.
Dating apps.
Yeah, I deleted it.
We're good.
Dating ads are pretty bad.
Okay, so I have a question.
No one likes me.
When you've decided that you want to sleep with a guy, what is your success rate?
What do you mean by that?
So your success rate in sleeping with him.
If you've decided I want to sleep with this guy, it could be within the first minute, five minutes.
It could be on the second or third date.
You decide, oh, I like this guy.
I want to sleep with him.
What is your success rate between you deciding I want to sleep with this guy and you being able to sleep with him?
I don't want to.
And it could be like, so in that moment when you were like, I want to sleep with that guy, it could be either you see him, you could even, I was going to say you could see him on a dating app, but just answer the original question.
It's just a little bit weird question for me because it's not like I'm looking around with a thought of which guy I'm going to sleep with today.
Like, that's not the first thing that pops out of my mind when I meet somebody.
It is there and, you know, in the process, but not like.
But at some point in the interaction, there comes a time where it could be instant.
It could be, you know, I don't know.
Some people want to hook up quick.
Some people wait a couple dates.
So do you want to?
Yeah.
Can I be honest?
I'm the type of person where I'm very like to myself.
So if I'm around a guy who makes me feel safe, he provides some type of loyalty, like not stability money-wise, just makes me feel secure and gives me something different to offer.
I'll sleep with him or whatever.
So I like that you raise your hand.
I don't want to be ruling people off.
I'm sorry.
Is it like I've decided to sleep with them?
I'll sleep with them this day.
Or like I decided to sleep with them like two days later.
But not too soon, though.
I mean, too soon.
Let me give you an example.
So let's say you go on the first date with a guy.
You don't hook up that night, right?
But you like him.
And you decide, I would be down to sleep with him.
So once that decision has been made, you're like, if he, for example, you think, okay, he's probably going to make the move on our second date.
I'm down, right?
Once you've made that decision that you want to sleep with him, what is your success rate with actually sleeping with him?
100%?
Yes.
I'm thinking of a percentage.
So 70%, 50%, 100%.
Yeah.
What is it?
100%.
Dating-wise, I would say 100%.
Maybe just like if I see someone and I think they're attractive, I like kind of meet them.
I don't want to visit them.
I wouldn't say 100%.
Okay.
I like try not to.
I assume that there's at least some degree of interaction.
Not just like someone you see on the street.
You're like, he's fucking hot.
I'd like to sleep with him.
Probably 100%.
Okay.
What about you?
100%.
100%.
You don't score.
That's right, bro.
God damn, y'all.
You guys are.
I don't miss.
Well, the point of the question is, that's not the number for men.
It's not.
But it shouldn't be the number for men.
Why should it be the number for men, though?
It should be equal, but it was.
Why?
No, you're looking, you're all like nice guys or whatever are looking for the girl who doesn't have a high body count.
But at the same time, you assume that she's going to say yes every time you want her to say yes.
First date, second date, whatever date.
I don't assume that.
But like you said that it would be nice if they're like equality.
That means that 100% from the girl's side, 100% from the guy's side, right?
It would be great if that was a sense ratio.
I would have slept with all the dates I ever had in my life.
Because the moment the guy went on a date with me, he wants to sleep with me.
That's like obvious thing.
So that means that all the girls will sleep with all the guys.
And so where is those girls with a low body count going to come from?
That is a good question.
the point of the question isn't so much to say this is how it should be it's more so to emphasize kind of the difference between men and women when it comes to being able to and some women because here's the thing some women will view their experience and they'll think well this is my experience it It must be the same for men in terms of the attention that you get, the ease with which you could have sex if you wanted to.
Whereas for most men, most men, their success rate is, here's another follow-up question on this.
And I know you want to come in.
Let me just ask the follow-up question and I want you to give your take.
Oh, shit, did I just lose it?
Oh, of all the first dates you've been on where there hasn't been a second date, or hold on.
Okay, of all the first dates you've been on, how many of them did not lead to anything further?
Either you didn't hook up with him or there wasn't a second date You can give a percentage too or I mean sure So me personally I only had two boyfriends in my entire life I usually will take my time talking to somebody and I will never go on a date with somebody if I don't see them as potential boyfriend or I want to sleep with them.
Okay.
That's just how I see it.
Okay.
That's that's good though because a lot of girls will go on a date and I either for a free experience, they'll do a foodie call, free meal.
Sometimes they're just bored.
I don't have anything else to do.
I guess I'll whatever.
But that's good.
I think that's how it should be.
But so okay, of the first dates you've been on that didn't lead, you didn't hook up with the guy and it didn't lead anywhere.
Wait, shit.
What was that?
How many, okay, how many of the first dates that you've been on did not go to a second date or you didn't hook up with the guy?
Like 30%, maybe 40.
30% or 40.
Okay, so your success rate of first dates is 60% of the first dates you go on lead to something more.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, I don't know a number.
Ballpark.
Sav, help me out.
I've been on a few first dates within the past few months that have literally not gone anywhere.
Like all of them don't go anywhere.
Because I've only been single for six, seven months.
And I've been on a few first dates.
They didn't go anywhere.
Okay.
I don't know.
I didn't think any of my dates really go anywhere.
Oh.
None of your dates go anywhere.
Okay.
I've never been taken out on an actual date, though.
I mean, once recently.
Oh, you've wait.
Hold on.
Well, let's go into this a little bit.
No.
You've never been taken out on an actual date, like just for dinner, for drinks or something.
Even something simple like that?
My first one was this past September.
This past September.
So, okay, you said your body count, the amount of people you've been with is between 20 and 30.
So just curious, were those from dating apps?
Yeah, they were, yeah, all from dating apps.
And to, like, put it in perspective, I was very sheltered growing up and very naive.
So when I got on dating apps, I didn't know that that's like what it wouldn't, like when I first went on my first date ever, I didn't know that that was going to happen.
But was it, which dating app was it, Tinder?
That one was Bumble.
Bumble.
Okay.
You didn't know.
That we were going to hook up.
You didn't.
I'm just trying to do that.
Because he said that he wanted to, I like to draw and I love art.
And he said he saw my Instagram and he said he wanted to come over and see my art.
So I was like, okay, too smart.
And I came and told him, I was like, we could color a little bit.
I had everything laid out.
Like all my coloring books and stuff.
And yeah, we never colored.
Oh, my sweet.
How did a guy come over and build Legos?
He was a drunk.
Wait, so just curious.
So your first date ever, this is the guy that you lost your virginity to.
It was a bumble thing, and he said he wanted to do art.
So I'm curious.
Okay, so you go over to his place.
What time?
What day is it?
What time?
He came over to mine.
Oh, he went to yours.
And it was like, I feel like it was like noon.
It was like a dark day.
Oh, yeah.
God damn.
Little afternoon delight for your first time.
There you go.
Okay, and so he came over at noon.
How quickly, like from the time he walked through the door, how quickly until you guys were hooking up?
It was kind of like sad.
But he, because like I had never been kissed either.
So like immediately when he came in, he like was all over me.
Really?
Like, stepped through the door and kissed you?
Wow.
Yeah.
Damn, that's somewhere.
Hell yeah.
Shit.
Yo.
God damn.
Hold on.
I need to find a fucking thing for that.
What do I got?
Yes.
That's awesome.
Okay.
So, was he a really attractive dude?
I found him attractive initially.
Initially?
So, okay.
God damn, that's very gangster shit.
Has any other girl had that?
Like, walk through the door, first thing, boom, kiss.
I mean, I think because you invite him to your place, that's kind of an assumption there.
That's what she wants.
Yeah, but there's usually a little conversational for me.
Some people don't care about that.
Really?
Yeah.
Man, I got to step it up.
I'm going to talk at least an hour or something, like have a little conversation.
But hey, some shit.
I'm fucking up, guys.
So, okay.
Walks in, grabs you, kisses you.
Did you like recoil?
Was there a hesitation?
Like a little.
I just, I mean, it was all a blur.
It was all a blur?
Yeah.
It happened.
Everything happens so fast.
But you were sober, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
I just didn't.
It was almost like shock.
Was he a good kisser?
No, his mouth tasted like cigarettes.
Cigarettes.
Hell yeah.
Oh, my.
Your first kiss was with the smoker.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
That sucks.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then, so he comes over, he fucking throws the art off the table.
Where did you guys hook up in your bed?
Yeah, I mean, like, looking back on it now, obviously, I know that it was stupid of me to invite him over to my place because I had a studio apartment.
So my bed was right there.
But you know, I didn't.
I've coped with it and told myself that I didn't know better at the time.
But I mean, you were kind of down for it, I'm assuming, right?
Like you didn't.
You went with it.
Or.
I mean, first time scary.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay, so you guys hook up.
Does he stick around for a bit?
Did you guys paint afterwards or did he dip?
No, he left like right after.
What the fuck?
No, round two?
No, and I found out he's engaged.
Yo.
Girl.
At the time?
Yeah, or he was getting married, yeah.
How did you find that out?
Did you know he was engaged or did you find out after him?
Um.
I found out afterwards.
How?
Oh, my.
Did not hide it.
Did you like DM his fiancé or anything?
No.
Wait, closer to the mic.
So Was there a second encounter?
No.
How old was he?
I don't remember.
He was like in his 30s.
30s.
I was 26.
Was the sex good?
A no.
Did you climax?
No.
Who does their first time?
You never know.
Did you use protection?
I don't think so.
Oh.
Wow, you just went to age, girl.
And so, were you on birth control?
Yeah, my older sister got pregnant when she was like 18.
So my mom was like really on us, the rest of me and my sisters for birth control.
Okay.
Wow, this is very interesting.
So, okay.
And also unfortunate in the sense that, I mean, that's your first time.
That doesn't sound like a particularly good framework for future encounters, but, okay.
How was your second one like?
Let's go to the line.
It was like a string of really bad encounters after that.
But I took a after like kind of the pandemic actually kind of helped because I was like, you know what?
I'm going to take a break from dating apps.
And then I met a guy that was really nice, but that was the one that I only saw like five times in the year.
And that was 2020.
And then I took 2021 off completely.
From the.
From dating.
Yeah.
Dating.
No, from like, yeah, from every, yeah, I was.
Okay.
2021.
Yeah, happily single in 2021.
And then 2022, what happened then?
I decided to try again, and it did not go very well.
But now in 2023, I'm not going to date again.
She's going off and I'm not.
I don't get it, though, because, I mean, I've just met you, but you strike me as a pretty, you seem like a sweet person.
Thank you, man.
And you're attractive, and I just, it's.
Get it, Brian.
It's just like, I mean, was it, you said it was Bumble.
Was it just Bumble?
Were you on it?
Tinder Hinge?
I was back and forth on Bumble and Hinge.
Okay.
And wow.
I think you just met like a lot of.
Sorry, I think I just met like a lot of people that weren't meant for me, unfortunately.
Happens a lot.
I think there is also a menaced advantage.
When you can say no.
I personally feel like, I don't know if you guys grew up in a certain type of way.
My grandma always told me if a man doesn't offer you a certain amount of things, you know, he can't take care of your kids, take care of you, hold you down, things like that.
Do not open up your legs.
I'm sorry.
There's no way you should be out here praying.
Open up for Skittles like that.
Are you going to end up pregnant?
Baby Mama.
No.
Based.
Based.
Yeah.
So as far as the dating apps go, you would match with the guys on Bumble.
Typically, you send the first message, right?
Yeah.
So what would you send?
And was it you that was kind of initiating?
Yeah, no.
Sorry, pick the panties, pick the panties.
Would you try to initiate the meetups or was it the guy mostly?
Mostly it was the guy because I like to kind of like joke around a little bit and see if they, because I really like people who can make me laugh.
So I try to play or like either comment on one of their pictures and see if they can kind of like banter a little bit.
Sure.
And then usually they are, they like ask to meet up.
Okay.
And then like sometimes I even try to be like, okay, let's go like to dinner or even just like lunch or something.
So we're like out and about, but they usually are like, oh, just come over to my place.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Do you go based off of like attraction or like what's your what does a guy have to do in order for you to like go and see him just like a pick and then you'll go meet up with him?
No, I like to like talk to them a little bit on the on the app and see if I, if they can like, if I can get a kind of feel, if they'll like maybe laugh, or if they're down to earth or um, that's it just laughing.
Can I?
Um yeah, ask a question?
So has it been somebody to whom you said no uh, that's been a problem of mine.
You gotta set boundaries.
Yeah, I'm in therapy too.
I got you.
If you guys need sessions, okay.
So, and just going back to your first encounter, so the guy came over right away, he went for it.
How long had you been talking to him on the app?
Like, did you match with him that day?
Nope, we matched, and then he kind of disappeared and then my snapchat was on my profile and then he snapchatted me, okay, a dick picnic, so hold on.
So you said.
When he came over, you said you didn't really.
I mean, but he sent you a picture of his penis, so you kind of knew you must have had some sense of but it okay.
So I guess I mean I blocked.
I would have told him that I was a virgin.
Where did you grow up?
In LA Colorado where, in Colorado, Colorado Springs?
Okay, what's out there?
Geez, North Korea.
Their air must be crazy out there.
Wait, did you just say North Korea?
Are you Korean?
No no Japanese no, what the city?
Are you?
I'm Vietnamese, white and Polynesian.
Oh wow okay, all right, there you go, there you go, okay.
Um, so you said that you recently just went on your first proper date, and what did you guys do?
Uh, he took me to uh, a nice restaurant in Venice Beach okay, and did you guys hook up?
Yeah okay um, but he's a very nice person.
Are you still talking to him?
Yeah, we're just friends, just what?
Wait, hold on friends who do it.
Wait what?
When did you guys?
When was the date?
You said a week ago, or something in september oh september, why are you just friends?
Um, did you friend zone him or did he friend zone you?
Was the sex just really bad and you just no no, it was, that wasn't the problem.
uh he friend zoned me Why did he tell you why?
Because you're friends now.
So yeah, we are friends.
Maybe you guys talked about it.
Yeah, we talked about it, okay.
Why did he friend zone you as personal?
It's sad okay, I really wanted to know.
Yeah, I was really curious.
Let her be, let her be okay, that's fine if you want, if you don't want, to share, that's fine.
Um, where do we go from here?
Are we going back to the original question?
I don't even know what.
The first date?
Oh, I remember I remember it was um, something about a first date.
First date well okay um, I want to do you give in on a first date?
I think it was access rate, I think.
But everyone answered, yeah, we're good.
Okay, I want to ask you a question.
You said your parents, they split up when you were how old?
26.
26, yeah.
26.
You have a very high-pitched voice.
I'm going to ask you, is it okay if I ask you a serious question?
Yeah.
So when you were younger, when you were a child, was there any trauma?
Did you have any childhood trauma?
No, I mean my parents spawed a lot, but.
Okay.
Okay.
Anyways, I don't want to get too dark.
Does that relate?
Oh, it does?
Oh, okay.
Anyways, let me do something.
Let me get caught up on some super chats.
But while you were telling me all that, like, I don't know why.
you strike me as a very like sweet, almost naive in a way.
And like, I almost want to, I don't know if you guys felt the same way.
You were shaking your head while in agreement reading this.
A lot of women look at this and say, you want me to be submissive, homemaker, agreeable, all this stuff.
So props to you.
Thank you.
And props to everyone else who's kind of agreeing with it.
I needed to get...
Oh, man.
The girls who bailed, who no showed would have been so fucking good for this panel.
Sorry, I agree that that's what guys want, but I don't agree that like.
That's very traditional.
Like, that's very much, like...
Like, that...
Some of those things are not me.
Yeah.
Which ones?
I'm not a homemaker.
Are you a home record?
No.
It's not a blog.
No.
It's biological.
Yeah, it's logical.
I'm not the most nurturing.
I mean, when it's my friends, yes, but I don't know.
I'm autistic, so I don't know how to.
I don't know how to nurture people.
I don't know how to sympathize with people.
I just don't know how to.
I can agree with you.
Yeah.
And then somebody's with her every day.
Everybody knows you never go full retirement.
Okay.
There was another one, but I don't remember what it was.
Okay.
All right.
We have Dave on Jackson.
Hey, thank you for the big $20 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
That was the worst story I've ever heard.
I believe this is in response to.
Yeah, okay.
It was weird at the time.
I had to be there, but.
I'm paying $20 for her to be on timeout for 10 minutes.
Dayvonne Jackson with the subsequent $20.
Dude, thank you for the big support tonight, Dayvon.
Thank you.
If I had a tattoo for every brain cell I lost listening to that story, I would have as many tattoos as the redhead.
Is there something you want to say?
I'm getting one tomorrow, actually.
I'm getting one tomorrow, too.
Probably the 13th.
Yeah, we're getting matching ones.
Okay.
Is there something you want to say to Dayvon, Jubilee?
Well, at least I have the money for the tattoos.
What are you trying to say about Dayvon?
Broke ass bump.
Oh.
Okay.
Yeah, we got Dinosaur D with the $10 Super Chat.
The girl that thinks she's a 7 out of 10 tells a story she thinks was 7 out of 10.
Okay.
Do you want to respond to Dinosaur D?
Thank you, man, by the way.
I agree.
Oh, okay, she agrees.
All right.
I thought you were going to fire shots.
Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Would you let your son who makes $100K in good shape, very successful, marry a woman who has body count equals 30 plus, has provocative picks on IG, has somewhat of a bad rep in the community, goes out a lot?
This is your son?
I mean, go ahead.
Oh, you can go.
You raised your hand.
Go.
Well, we'll start with Savannah.
Let me go.
Can you keep that up?
Because I'm not going to remember.
Me too.
The 30-plus bodies, I mean, depends on how old he is.
Because, like, if you're, I'm guessing in your 30s, like, sure, by the time you're in your 30s, I'm guessing you're going to have a high body count.
Provocative pictures on Instagram, I mean, I do that, so like, I don't really fucking care.
Bad rep in the community, fuck no.
I would not let my son marry somebody like that.
Um, goes out a lot.
That depends.
Where do they go?
Like, if they go to like clubs and shit, probably not.
Because that's, I don't think that's that nice.
Um, so me personally, I hope I raise my sons real well to understand that they're a prize and a king, so I don't want them dating women that are gonna make them embarrassed or make them look dumb.
Um, 30-plus bodies, no, I don't agree with that at all.
Um, especially because I'm 28 now and I don't have 30 bodies, so hell no.
Um, posting pictures like that for attention and people, that's basically cheating.
I don't agree with that.
And if she can't like have nurturing skills, take care of him, love him, and be like a wife and mother, I don't like that.
But I'm not gonna like force him not to be with her.
I'll just educate him enough to you know to steer him in the right direction.
I have a question: Would you let your son marry me since I'm not that nurturing?
No, you said you want kids, I want grandchildren, so no.
I would adopt.
No, wait, you don't want your own kids?
Would you want them?
Okay, I like that.
That doesn't make any sense.
This is my thought process.
I don't, I can't nurture children.
Like, I just genuinely physically.
That's a random kid.
You can't even nurture that.
If you carry it in your stomach, you go hold your own mother.
It's not that.
It's honestly just autism.
Like, I genuinely, like, with everyone, I can't.
I love kids.
Don't get me wrong.
I love them.
When they are crying, I have no, like, I don't know how to deal with it.
I freeze up and like I freak out because I don't know how to do that.
But you're really good with me when I cry.
No, I freak out in my head.
Oh, you're like hugging me and shit.
Yeah, I don't know what else to do.
I can't talk you through it.
That's fine.
But babies, the crying.
Like, I don't know how to deal with it at all.
She freaks out over Christmas lights, dude.
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, no.
I saw her like tweaking in the back seat.
Like, oh, dang.
Yeah.
It's bad.
I would say, I mean, a little along the lines of what you said, I wouldn't want them to date her, but, and hopefully, I would raise them so that they know their self-worth.
But I wouldn't be, I would like let them date her, but I wouldn't be very mistakes.
What's that?
I'll let him learn from his mistakes.
And if it goes bad, then I told you so.
But no, in the long term, like the long-term end goal of marriage, then no.
If they're engaged and she's still doing that and all that, then no.
But if it's like, if it was like a short-term thing, I'm not going to talk shit.
Sure.
So, go ahead.
What is about letting is like giving a blessing?
Wait, what?
They're asking, would you allow your son?
What is that?
Like, is it giving a blessing and saying I agree with your choice?
Well, I suppose here's the thing.
I don't think a mother would be able to actually fully stop.
But I would view this question more so from the frame of, like, would you, how would you raise him?
Like, would you say, hey, go for these types of women, don't go for these types of women?
And would you also give your opinion if he is dating someone who's maybe not worthy?
Like, would you tell him, hey, I don't think this is the match for you?
I think the person is adult is willing to choose whatever, whoever he wants.
And if he asked for my opinion, I would say.
But like, I would never say if he doesn't ask, because like my mom used to say a lot of stuff that I don't ask her, and I had to build boundary for not for her to know what to say because it's annoying.
Okay, let me give you an example.
Let's say you found out that your son was dating, all of that, and she was addicted to heroin, and you know, I don't know, you know some other shit, like, but he never asked you for advice.
You wouldn't then try to intercede and say, listen, Vladimir, this, this woman, that's the name of your son.
Yeah.
This woman is not.
good.
You shouldn't be with her.
Like, here's all the way she's wrong.
Like, would you, yo, Sammy, thank you for the re-upping your tier one membership.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Go ahead.
I don't think it's my place to say what chose for what choice the person has to have.
That's your son, though.
Yeah, it's my son, and that means I'm a bad mother if whatever the values I put on him made him choose that kind of a person.
Well, sure, you should have raised him, I guess, from the get-go.
What I can do now if he was already adult.
Like, what can I change?
Well, usually, like, let's say your son is young, maybe he's a bit naive, so he might not, he's still kind of maneuvering in the, in the dating when it comes to dating, so maybe he needs his parents' advice.
If I ask for my advice, I would say, but I don't think the 14-year-old is going to date anybody.
Well, you wouldn't give someone unprompted advice.
When I'm raising them, but not when they're like 26 and on a dating app.
It's not my place.
I think.
Also, sorry, you guys.
No, you got your issue.
I just feel like men and women are very different, and like sons, they fall in love unconditionally.
And if you allow your son to just love any random woman, do you understand how bad his mental health can be?
And once he's stuck in that, married to a heroin addict, she's pregnant, all this crazy stuff.
Now, guess what you have to deal with when she's gone, takes all this stuff?
His mental health.
And he's going to be in shameless.
But you're his mom, and you have to be aware of that.
I'm his mom.
But I'm his mom.
I'm his mom till he's 18 or 21.
You're not a mom anymore.
I am a mom, but I become a different kind of a person, different kind of a parent, because there's a boundary.
There's an adult I raised that has his own life now, that has gone to separation, making his own mistakes.
Because if he will not do that, even worse thing is going to happen later on.
There's a lot of stories of abuse by mothers, man that I met in my life, and it's terrible.
I want to say another thing.
It's also too, you can communicate efficiently with your son.
You don't need to scream, yell, put him down.
You could say, I love you, I care about you, and I see you're going down a dark path, but I want to make sure that you're okay.
I advise you to do this.
You're going to do whatever you want, but I'm here for you every step of the way.
You don't need to belittle him and things like that either, you know?
I'm just saying.
I'm not saying I'm going to belittle him.
I'm saying I'm not going to intrude if he's not asking me.
Because he's an adult.
I respect that he's smart person that I raised and going to be able to make smart decision along the way.
And if he makes a bad decision in his life, he takes responsibility, whatever that is.
i don't think she wear the crest properly honestly but but don't you still even even though he is he has reached the age of majority don't you still feel there's some duty as the mother there's a duty to support the whatever the choices the person makes i can i can If you ask me, it's like a friendship.
If you ask a person for your opinion, you should say it.
It's a healthy boundary.
You should not raise and judge whenever a person doesn't ask you.
I want to flip this question slightly.
Let's say you had a daughter and she's 19.
Because it might be a bit more relatable if it's a daughter, perhaps, and she's just fucking getting ran through.
I'm talking two, three new guys a week.
She's already at, well, it might be too late at that point.
She slept with 30 dudes, freshman semester, first semester.
I'm a bad mother.
That's all I can say.
You do make a good point that you should have prevented that, I guess, from the get-go.
But would you intervene and say, no, you're going to sit at the house and you will never leave it until you turn 25 or what?
The person has to understand and go through the process to understand that there's a mistake going on.
You wouldn't tell her to stop being a whore?
I was just thinking whether that's an appropriate...
I think that's just respect.
First of all, you should not...
It's not my place to judge.
And then you can judge.
It's okay to judge, but I don't want to push my daughter away from me by calling her a whore because she already made a decision and she has her own values, whatever that is.
If that values doesn't match with mine, I'm a bad mother who didn't culture the right kind of a communication, understanding of the values in the world.
But there's nothing I can do now.
I mean, I would like sit my daughter down and talk to her.
Because if something happened, because I've known people who've been raped and they deal with it in a way where they have just a shit ton of sex after to deal with it.
I would like sit her down and talk to her and see if like something was wrong.
And then like if nothing's wrong, I'd be like, dude, I wouldn't just call her a whore.
Yeah, like her notes are.
If nothing was wrong, like I truly believe nothing was wrong.
It's not like her just saying, yeah, I'm fine.
I'd be like, okay, well, fucking stop.
Like, that's just shitty.
Like, you shouldn't do this.
Like, you, that's dangerous, like, especially if you're doing it raw.
Like, you could catch STDs, like, pregnancy.
Like, you don't want that.
Like, that's what I would do.
I don't believe in shaming at all, especially when it comes to your kids.
But my daughter represents me.
I'm not going to call her a whore, but I'm definitely going to have a conversation with her because she's not going to be out here in these streets looking rammed through like most of these modern day women.
Sorry.
I need class in my life, in my family, with my daughters.
I'm sorry.
But she's not a property.
She's my daughter.
She's not my program.
I want her to be okay.
And at the end of the day, girls who get rammed through, I see them all over line complaining and crying how they're unfulfilled.
Men don't love them and they're used and abused.
I don't want that for my daughter.
I want her to feel valuable and worth something.
And I don't know how if she goes down that path, she's going to feel just like all these girls complaining and boo-hooing on this internet.
I'm good.
I need a queen, baby.
Queen.
Maybe it's an interesting question because he's already dating her in the scenario that the super chat gave.
He's already dating her.
So I don't know.
It's more so like, would you attempt to guide them to the right place?
There's a possibility I will not attend the wedding by showing that I don't support that kind of a marriage.
But again, it's not my place to raise a voice and say, you're a bad son now because you choose that woman.
Because he's not my object.
He's not my property.
I raised the person, a human being.
Now he's out in the world and he's making his own decision because he has a right to do that.
It's a freedom of choice.
And I don't want to disrespect him because I think if I raise that person, I raise the person in a good way.
So that means I just respect myself when I start to say, oh, you're nobody because you can't make a right choice.
And I'm going to tell you what choice you have to make.
I can see.
I mean, you're basically saying that your son has agency.
Yeah.
And they're going to make their own decisions.
I guess I think maybe the issue that some of the people here are having is that you would wait for him to ask for your advice.
Whereas I think a lot of us here, if we saw our son or our daughter with a partner that was clearly bad for them, but for whatever reason, they were just, sometimes when love is involved, it makes things complicated.
We would initiate that conversation.
We wouldn't wait for advice.
We would say, we would try to preemptively say, hey, this person's not good for you.
I think you have like a fear of maybe like losing your kid and stuff like that.
But again, if you talk to them, it'd be a different scenario.
Like, I don't think you have to, like, I'm not trying to force my kid to do things, but if you tell them ahead of time, they'll be well aware of that.
And like, me personally, if I was doing something dumb, drinking, whatever, and like, say, you guys are my friends, I might not know in that moment that I'm wrong.
I might not know I'm doing anything wrong, but I would love one of you guys to be like, hey, girl, you know what?
You're messing up.
Hey, girl, you haven't been paying your rent.
Hey, girl, you've been fucking up on me.
I love people who can critique me and help me be better.
You're not going to help your child be better at all.
Can I reframe the question?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Imagine you have a husband.
Okay.
And he wanted to invest all your money in a very shitty, awful project.
And like, you know, it's not going to turn success.
But if, like, he believes in that, if like he knows that's going to be success, like, that's the, like, that's the only thing he wants.
What do you say to him?
Would you stop him from investing the money?
That's a whole different thing.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
It's for your husband.
It's a whole different thing.
You are fascinated by the people.
I will invest in my child.
That's not putting him in danger.
That's going to help build his thing.
And whose money is it?
Mine.
So if I lose that, it's my money or our money, technically.
No, you're saying.
Baby, you put your kids and then you're saying.
Yeah, you went to a whole girl.
You're like taking it a whole different level.
You're going to talk about Skittles and chocolate now.
What are you talking about?
Come on now.
No, you distinguish.
Stop it.
You don't let me say, first of all, I was going to say there's a difference for you between a separate unity and your child.
But I don't think there is a difference.
I think you should respect your child as much as you respect your husband.
Especially we're talking about adult son.
Man.
We are talking men now don't make decisions or afraid to make decisions because there were such mothers who were along the way constantly criticizing and judging them and making them feel not enough.
Again, girl, you are projecting.
I could just see you're projecting because you went through that.
How come my kids, yes, I can tell you're projecting.
Like everything that you've been saying, you just had a situation with your mother.
You're thinking moms who just have a conversation are going to be like bagging on their sons and hating on them.
No, I'm just giving him advice.
You don't have to be disrespectful.
You can be nice and say it.
And if you always have open conversations, your son knows how you are as a person.
So I think you're taking it a whole different thing because you went through that.
Baby, stop it.
Projection.
I see it right through it.
Sorry.
Okay.
So one thing that, and maybe this plays into her argument that occurred to me, is how often do you hear stories of the parent, like a girl who's dating a guy?
Maybe he's a jerk, maybe he's an asshole.
Typically you hear this with younger women and the parents are like, we don't like him, don't date him, but it only pushes her more.
So maybe there's that component to it too, but there's definitely the thing where like if the parents are like, we don't like him, she's just, it makes him her more into him.
They chase him even more.
Yeah, I get you.
Yeah, there's definitely girls where like if their parents are like, don't.
I agree, but that's why I say if you have a healthy conversation and you're not bagging on the person they're with, just say, you know what, I care about you.
I love you.
This is not something I would want for myself, but I'll be with you every step of the way and I hope that you would take a different route.
Because I feel like when you bag on them and tell them don't constantly, they're eventually going to steer right to it.
So I think it depends on the conversation, how you go about it.
Gotcha.
All right, we have, let's get the rest of the soup chats.
Yo, we have Eric Chilson with the $10 soup chat.
Girls, life is sounding sad.
I hope a man gives her a proper dating experience.
She's so sweethearted.
Oh, yeah.
Get her DMs rolling.
Light them up.
That might be a bad idea.
No, don't do anything.
Maybe I'll just bring him in.
I'm going to go to the next one.
Then go through us first.
You can stay on the dating app, but you have to switch to Christian Mingle, okay?
Yes, no.
All right.
Christian Mingle.
Yeah, we have Dayvon Jackson with the $20 Soup Chat.
At first, I thought she was a victim, but now I'm thinking that she's just.
Oh, no.
No, you got okay.
You got to say something mean back now He called you dumb.
I'm not.
I know.
Just saying.
Loves a lot.
Yo, you're too nice.
You could yell at him, dude.
Can we?
I just don't think it's nice.
Hi, Jubilee.
Be nice to Dayvon.
Be nice.
Or sorry, be mean.
You're a fucking cunt.
No, I'm kidding.
Whoa.
I'm kidding.
Savannah, what did you want to say?
Fucking dick.
Why would you call someone dumb when you don't even know her?
What else?
She's not dumb.
She's not dumb.
Say how you really feel.
I'll call you a fucking dumb guy.
Tell us how you really feel, Savannah.
You fucking cuck, dude.
Whoa, whoa.
Come on.
Oh, damn.
Whoa.
We use the word cuck.
Okay, we use a cuck in a very different sense.
Yeah.
Also, it's not very nice to call somebody dumb if you don't know what they've been through.
Exactly.
Thank you.
Like, we've been talking for like maybe an hour and a half, I think.
Two hours.
Two hours.
Not two hours.
Like, you don't know her.
Like, you can't call someone dumb if you do not know her.
Okay, Dayvon Jackson.
Or sorry.
Dinosaur D with the $10 soup chat.
It's funny how the mom told her to be on birth control, but never taught her that it's okay to say no.
Where was the child?
No.
Damn.
No.
No.
Okay.
No, thank you.
Well, actually, girl, Gundy.
Actually, well, there's a video.
This is actually how I, Jade has a TikTok.
That's actually how I found her.
Her TikTok showed up on my For You page.
I guess I have, for some reason, Asian women who talk about dating, it just, that's my For You page, Facebook.
So, can we pull up the video, Eric?
Can you go to the video tab?
Oh, God.
Play the jade clip.
Okay, wait, play it one more time.
Sorry.
Okay, so growing up my dad was saying I've been in a relationship, okay?
Okay.
Cringe talk, by the way.
Cringe TikTok.
So your dad actually did advise you.
He said, don't have a boyfriend in the middle.
It's kind of a joke.
Oh, it was a joke.
Yeah.
Sure.
Okay.
Got it.
All right.
We have Dayvon Jackson with the.
Did we already do this one?
No, you don't.
Oh.
No, you don't.
$50 suit chat.
I clearly have the money.
$50 will not get you a tattoo.
I'm sorry.
It doesn't.
I paid $300 for my last one.
Yeah, tattoos are pretty expensive.
They are.
Oh, my God.
They're so expensive.
My last one, definitely was overcharged.
And like the minimum is like $120.
Yeah.
So what you, are you calling him a brokey?
Yeah.
Where are you going to get a $50 tattoo?
I'm sorry.
Dave Onne's like a matte.
I wish I could get a $50 tattoo.
I'm a major patron.
You're going to get an infection if you do that.
Dayvonne, do you have any tattoos, by the way?
BTW?
Let us know.
Okay.
We have Mr. Luciano with the 1,000 yen.
Is that yen?
Ladies, based off of what you know in life, if you could be born again, but this time you can pick your gender, would you pick being a girl again or a boy?
And why?
Really quick, we'll do this one.
go ahead i like being a woman but i would probably i think it's i would be a man probably just like It's just interesting for me from the perspective of difference.
So why?
Why?
I think it's hard to be a man in the modern society.
It's hard to be a man.
Yes.
Or hard to be a woman?
No, hard to be a man in the modern society.
Okay.
And that's why you would want to be a man?
You want the child?
Yeah, I want to like, no, I just want to understand the difference and, you know, difference how you think in thinking.
Okay, good answer.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I'm pretty chill on being a woman.
I mean, it kind of sucks sometimes, though.
But also, I don't know.
I only want to be the guy for a day.
Okay.
Yeah.
What would be the first thing you do?
I'm talking about this all the time.
That's the thing.
Would you helicopter?
No, no, no.
There's certain things that I would stick my dick in.
What the fuck?
You know those like little, like um I mean peanut butter like orbies, like the fucking colour it's like the, you know, like the um water tube thingy, that like talking about a plastic tube thingy, that has like water in it.
Sometimes it has like orbies or something.
No, it never has orbies in it.
I've never seen one with orbs.
Okay, I don't know it's.
It's like I honestly have no way.
I just want to be a man for a day.
What?
You'd be a man for a day, just to experience it, just to experience being a guy.
Stop it, get some help.
Whoa okay um okay, what about you?
Um, I would be a dude.
You'd want to be a dude.
Yeah, I just feel like I have a lot of emotions and it would be nice to have less.
You have a lot of emotions yeah, and when you which emotion sad angry, all of them, all of them.
Yes, I feel so many emotions okay um, I would like to stay a woman.
It's too hard to be a man in this society.
All right wow, this is.
I need a bass panel.
I'd like to stay a woman for a day.
There you go.
All right, we have.
Stop it.
Whoa, get some help okay, wait.
Oh Eric, can you hide?
Hide it?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's okay, yo.
Azul69, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Hey there, pretty Viet Mix lady want to give you a big hug.
You're sweet, don't done.
Been through it all.
Finna, take you to Ocean Prime soon.
Is my two dollar?
Two percent, excuse me, two percent, raise hits and I move out from mama's house, yes or no?
He's asking what is Ocean Prime?
Is that something in that line?
I don't know.
Ocean Prime is that?
Is that like a club or some shit, and I don't know.
But that's very nice, but i'm i'm not going to date for a while.
Thank you, though.
Good job, girl.
Okay uh yo, we have.
Uh, RAY Santoscript.
I think the ten dollar super chat.
The best dating i've used is facebook dating.
It's free, better than Bumble and match, Bro.
Okay, men love a feminine woman that wears light makeup, works out, loves to make a man happy and cooks well.
First off, facebook dating is garbage.
It's terrible.
It is.
It's like maybe just a bit plenty of fish like it's.
It's bad.
Did you try it?
Yeah, i've been on facebook.
Yeah, get rid of them.
So happy I got online yesterday.
I deleted announcements.
It will force people to want to like, actually talk to each other, and women will get bored eventually with all the attention.
There was no social media, no dating apps.
Could you imagine how it would be back in the old days, baby?
That would be nice.
I wouldn't let us wait.
Tay, how old are you again?
I'm 20.
I just from joining you on january 5th, 28th.
Yes okay, all right, can I ask a question then?
Yeah yes, what did you ever uh, approached a guy?
Have you ever?
Oh, of course I have.
I'll tell you a situation.
I went up to a guy, asked him out this is the first thing that ever happened to me bought Spider-man tickets, waited there.
He never showed up.
Yeah, and I called him or whatever, and he was like, oh yeah, I didn't think you were serious.
And he's like, you want me to come on my way?
I You know what.
It's okay.
He said, I'll pay you back.
I said, it's not about the money, man, because I don't do anything like date talk to anybody.
So I was like, you didn't even watch the movie.
Until this day, I haven't seen Spider-Man.
Wait, actually.
And I freaking love Marvel.
We love Spider-Man.
I love Spider-Man, dude.
Anyways.
Okay.
All right.
Good times.
Good times.
All right.
We have.
Whoa, okay.
This one.
Oh, wait.
Did I?
What was that?
Men love a feminine.
Oh, really quick on the makeup thing.
Are you wearing any makeup right now?
I'm wearing mascara.
Oh, a little mascara?
Okay.
All right.
Jubilee, what about you?
She looks natural.
I'm not wearing any.
Not even, not a little.
Okay.
Do you dislike makeup?
No, I just, my freckles.
I just, I'm not very good at applying it sometimes.
I don't know.
What's my freckles?
Does anyone here dislike makeup?
Me.
You dislike it?
You dislike it?
Like on myself or other people?
I want you to take turns really quick just rant as to why you don't like makeup.
Like on myself?
Or in general?
In general.
It just looks weird.
It's bad for your skin.
Anything else?
It gets in the way.
Like, you can't touch your face.
So you don't like makeup?
No.
I put some eyelashes.
If I want to, like, feel something, I'll put on some like fake eyelashes for like a day or two.
But other than that, I don't really like wearing makeup anymore.
I like occasionally, if I really want to.
Okay.
Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
What women's rights is feminism?
What women's rights is feminism fighting for in 2023?
There is not one rat, law, privilege, or opportunity that a man has that you don't.
Feminism is more about supremacy these days.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm saying that way.
Well, the dir threw me off, so I rolled with it.
Okay, so let's see.
Thoughts?
I kind of agree about what he's saying about feminism today.
I believe that there are some women who view feminism as supremacy or like women are better than men.
And then there's other women who believe that their feminism is like equal.
And I feel like we are reaching, like, we're closest to equal that we've ever been.
But yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
I feel like women have overdone it to this point.
Feminism is not even what it's supposed to be anymore.
They just bag on men.
They can't stand men.
They want to be superior to men.
I just don't like it.
It's what's making men single.
Ruining their mental health and just making them as a society a whole of men like not cared for and loved.
I don't like that.
Yes.
Go ahead.
I also think that feminism has gotten a little bit out of control.
I do feel like they do kind of, I mean, not everybody, but some people do kind of bash on men.
And I do think that men have feelings, too, and they like that whole thing, like, boys cry, too.
Yes.
What is this panel?
I'm sorry, I really stacked it.
I'm going to be really boring, but I agree with them.
I don't know.
I have nothing different to say, really.
I'm also just really tired today.
Well, I think it reached the point where it kind of like achieved a lot of things that they initially wanted to achieve, like right to vote and like opportunity to work and stuff like that.
But then kind of like man, women started to take advantage from their perspective of like, now I work, but you also pay.
And, you know, I don't want to cook for you.
You're going to cook for yourself or whatever else, stuff like that.
Are there feminists in Ukraine?
Because you're from Ukraine.
I haven't heard about feminism until I was like 16.
Okay.
Because Ukraine is often an example I bring up when sometimes the topic of feminism comes up.
Because I'm sure you're aware, men between the ages of 18 and 60 were unable to leave the country when Russia invaded.
However, women and children could leave.
And feminism is all about equality until Russia invades.
I think it's a point of protecting your country also.
Well, I mean, women are capable marksmen.
They can shoot guns.
Do they?
Can they?
Okay, so I think if you're asking, I think generally speaking, men are better soldiers.
They're better suited for it because obviously men are physically stronger than women.
That's kind of a duh situation.
But, I mean, when it comes to defending your country, especially with, I mean, Ukraine's received a lot of support from the West.
But, I mean, Russia, I don't know what happened with the war there, but shouldn't Russia have steamrolled Ukraine?
Steamrolled.
Steamrolled them?
I mean, Ukraine.
Well, maybe the big thing is also Ukrainians were defending their country, whereas the Russian soldiers were like, what are we doing here?
I think you just don't know what is happening.
That too.
They're like, well, I feel like you're going to fight more fiercely if you're like, yo, this is my, this is my fucking country.
Nationalism, right?
Whereas, why are you looking at me like that?
Whereas like the Russian conscripts or whoever got sent over, they're just like, I don't have a problem with these people.
Like, why are we invading Ukraine?
Like, why?
So I don't know.
But it is interesting to me that when it comes to feminism, you know, there's a lot of talk, but when World War III starts, it's going to be, a lot of feminists are going to be silent.
Yeah, that's true, because they're afraid.
I mean, women are naturally afraid.
But I think the men could, I think our country did wrong was like not letting the men out.
It would be much easier if they paid, if the man paid to get out, if they put the price on leaving the country.
Right.
Did you want to?
No, no, never mind.
Go ahead.
Okay.
I'm just going to move to the next soup chat here.
We have Mr. K with the $10 soup chat.
Ukraine's opinion will change when she actually gives birth.
Suddenly she'll feel things, even if they seem irrational now.
It's inexplicable how thoughts and feelings suddenly change.
Or so I hear.
This is in response to the your son dating a woman who's terrible thing.
Your response?
I'm sad that you think this way, so there's nothing I can do.
Okay.
Dinosaur D with the $10 soup chat, what the Ukrainian girl is saying is exactly the reason why men must raise men.
Agreed.
I have no problems with men raising men.
Yeah.
I think the saying goes, like, fathers keep their sons out of jail and their daughters off of stripper poles.
Yes.
Something like that.
I agree.
So if there's no father in the household, then.
Yep.
All right.
We have Dinosaur D with the subsequent $10 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Please, Ukrainian girl, stop.
You're not your kid's best friend.
You're their parent.
You need to hold them accountable for their actions.
Response?
Good job.
I mean, I don't.
Jesus Christ.
You scared me.
I was frightened.
I think I'm the parent, but until the separation happens, I can be a parent.
I can put boundaries until my son or daughter is like 18 or 21, depending what country, like what terms.
But like after that, I want to raise an individual who can trust themselves in making the judgments and decisions and understanding that he doesn't own anything to society, to the family, to the friends, to anybody.
He or she wants and will do things that she wants or he wants.
Okay.
Yo, we have Oni Nofro with the Canadian $10.
Thank you, man.
I think what's being missed by this girl is an understanding of moral imperative.
A member of your family could experience pain.
You have relevant information.
Facts.
But neglect to share information.
You got to start talking shit back to these people.
No?
Okay.
All right.
Oni Nofro with the subsequent Canadian $10 Sup Chat.
A family member, especially an elder, has wisdom and perspective and can add value to the life of their progeny.
You can provide missing information and prevent harm while still respecting their agency.
Dave on Jackson, $20 Sup Chat, losing your virginity to a man you met for the first time on the internet without even knowing he was engaged is dumb AF LMAO.
He's on a roll.
You want to say anything to him?
I just was naive at the time.
I didn't know any better.
And I know that you could say what you want because I was 26 years old, but I did really live in a little bubble for a majority of my life.
Do you want to give, as far as the shit talking goes, do you want to give someone your proxy?
What's that?
Do you want someone to be your proxy?
So let someone else talk shit on your behalf.
You got Jubilee here.
You got Tay.
You got she can say some shit in Ukrainian, right?
Oh, I think you can't.
Can you cuss him out in Ukraine?
That's cool.
Tay can take it.
I'm too tired of this.
No?
I can't agree with him, though.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I don't agree with you.
Well, never mind.
Talk shit then.
No, I think it's in English.
I can say I can say that.
But in English, I can say that the men who take advantage of the woman and then support other men taking advantage of a woman are dumb.
I'm sorry.
Well, I mean, that's not what he's saying.
No, he's saying he's supporting and saying that she's dump because that happened to her, but that's not true.
But you shouldn't use words like that because that's the reason why men get in trouble today.
Accusations and stuff like that.
Those are big things you should not say.
Be careful.
You're from Ukraine out here, baby.
Those words can get a man put behind bars.
And you're saying he's encouraging others.
That's not a good thing at all.
I'm not saying he's encouraging.
I'm saying he's supporting that by supporting the man.
Read the thing all over again.
You don't think that losing your virginity to somebody you just met online is a good thing or a bad thing?
Really?
Okay, well, I don't think I am stupid.
I'm not saying you're dumb, but I'm just saying in general, like I don't think that's a smart idea.
I'm not saying you're dumb.
I'm just saying that's not a smart idea at all.
He said it, not me.
I'm just agreeing.
Don't shoot the message.
You're not me.
You have this heat now for me.
Go to him, baby, because you didn't have it before.
Stop it.
No, looking back on it, I know it's not the smartest thing to do, but at the time, I didn't really know better.
Do you want to give your proxy to Jubilee?
I'm really tired.
Jubilee, no.
That's okay.
I don't know how to do it.
This is early for our shows.
You know, they go a little longer than that.
Okay, we got $10 Soup Chat.
It's pretty dumb to invite a dude over to look at your paintings without realizing that he was trying to clap cheeks.
Like, you really got painting supplies ready.
He didn't come for brush strokes.
I would have, honestly, I'll give you my take.
If you invited me over to paint, I would have painted it.
Same, I would have painted.
I was painful.
I didn't necessarily like all that, like, oh my gosh, she's so stupid.
She's so dumb.
I also think that maybe people should take time to get to know others and people should read the room and like not like, you know what I mean?
Just take time with people.
I don't think if he had just taken a moment to talk to me, then I feel like it would have gone a different route.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the thing with the dating apps, though, is that they are typically, it was Bumble, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is kind of like a bit more hookup-ish, especially Tinder, maybe Bumble, a little less so.
Hinge, much more less so, I think.
But yeah, I think on dating apps, it's kind of a crapshoot.
Like a lot of people are on there, like they just want to hook up.
All right, we have Dayvon Jackson here with the $50 Soup Chat.
I'm not sure if you know how math works, but I didn't just send 50 here today.
And no, I don't have any tattoos, but if they can name three countries outside of the U.S., Mexico, and Canada, I'll get their faces tatted on me.
My brain's not working right now.
That might be a legally binding contract.
Okay, name three countries outside of the U.S., Mexico, and Canada.
Go.
Three countries, go.
I'm not going to be able to do that.
No, you guys got it.
Come on.
My brain's.
I'm here.
Clap back at him.
He's telling you stuff.
I'm too tired.
Jubilee, shut up.
Answer.
What country are you from?
Ukraine.
I don't.
Come on.
I'm too tired.
My brain is really not working right now.
I'm excited.
Three countries.
Come on.
Yo, this is early for our shows.
You can't tap out so quick.
Go run around over there and come back.
Still a slice cold.
Would you consent to her slapping you in the face?
Trying to.
To wake you up.
I know.
Consider slap you.
That'll wake you up.
I have all these money, Marine.
Can I actually?
Go right here.
Do it right here.
Oh, no.
Don't hit me in the back of the head.
I've never been slapped before, I don't think.
And don't hit Kiki either.
Knock her wig off.
I love you.
God damn.
I love you.
Okay.
Do it hard too.
Oh, my God.
Oh!
Nice.
Did you hear it?
Oh, my God.
She's up.
God damn.
Are you awake?
How you feeling now?
He has a headache?
I'm tired.
I have to work in the morning.
I'm sorry.
I love you so much.
Just give me a headache, man.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
All right.
I feel bad.
Good times.
Can I ask something?
Yeah.
I have like a serious question.
If not you guys in general, but a lot of women say that men will sleep with everything that moves, then why do you guys go to people's houses not expecting that that's what they want?
I wouldn't go to any guy's house unless I was going to do something or talk to him for long enough.
And I'm just asking this question in general.
To the ladies?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, you guys, I need to get up for a sec, so go.
I have not been open to dating in a while.
Okay.
And like haven't really done anything like that until recently when I started talking to the guy.
Oh, okay.
The first thing, and I've learned that the first time I ever meet someone, I bring my friend.
And like I have them bring a friend so I can see how they're around like my friends, like other people.
And like, I see how it is.
Ooh, that would have sucked.
And like, I see how it is.
I see how it works.
And then if I like it and I keep talking to them after that, I go and hang out with them first.
Like I meet somewhere with them and then like hang out.
And if I like them still, like I'll go back to their house and like not do anything with them, but like still talk to them, like watch a movie maybe.
Okay.
Like with this dude, like we met at the collection and like hung out there for a bit.
And then I think like a few days later, we were still talking stuff.
And then he got a Lego set for Christmas, so we went and built it.
So that's pretty much what we did.
We only hooked up once.
I liked it.
That's what happens.
I liked it.
On Tuesday, she drove me to the fucking Navy base.
And I was like, honestly, it's perfect because I was like, okay, if I'm not feeling him, she could take me back home.
I'm not stuck there.
So I feel like dealing with a guy and stuff like that with hooking up and all that, it's nice to have like a group setting.
That's why I like group settings.
Then like.
Is that considered a date, though, if you go on a group setting?
No, I definitely wouldn't consider it a date.
Does he know you're usually bringing her?
It together or just she's just waiting for you?
But we're usually like we just hang out.
We try to get go as a group.
I'm thinking she's like right next to you on the day.
I'm saying, oh no, no, no.
We tried, we did that yesterday.
Oh, God.
It was funny.
He was having a really, really bad day.
In a funny way, like, he didn't care.
We were all having a good time.
So it was a group date.
And we like warned them beforehand.
Yeah.
We're like, hey, just like, just, you know, like, me and my friend are kind of a lot when we're together.
That was actually her exact words.
My head kind of hurts.
I'm sorry.
Your face was.
Sorry.
I'm just really tired.
I'm just gonna go.
That's fine.
It's fine.
I feel bad.
It's okay.
You're my bestie.
No.
She's my bestie.
I really don't care.
I feel so bad.
By the way, we do need to answer the rest.
We need to have, or what's it called?
Do the rest of Dave on Super Chat here.
So name three countries outside of the U.S., Mexico, and Canada.
Ukraine, Russia, Germany.
I was going to say Russia.
You can't repeat hers, but I was going to say the same to you.
You have to do new ones.
France, Argentina, and Croatia.
Oh, I love Croatia.
I'll pass.
Come on, come on, come on.
I'll pass.
You got this.
I'll pass.
I'm good.
Come on.
I'm being serious.
I'll pass, guys.
I'm really not smart.
You know what?
I thought about this question, and I think it's a bit of a trick question because when you think about countries, like you're thinking, if I were to say name three European countries or name three South American countries, for some reason that makes it easier for me.
Like if I'm just thinking, oh, three countries, okay.
But if I break it down to like Europe, for example, I'm like, okay, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Italy, Greece, you know, I'll just, it's much easier.
If I'm being honest, I am dumb.
Like, I, like, South America.
Hold on.
Okay, we got Costa Rica, Chile, Peru, Brazil, Panama.
All Bass.
Costa Rica.
What about Asian countries?
All pass.
Oh, yeah.
Hong Kong, Thailand, Bangkok, Beijing, Philippines.
She'll do it for me.
She got my back.
Savannah, name 10 books.
Oh, all the Harry Potter series.
Carnival.
Does that count as one or is it 10?
Percy Jackson.
I love reading.
Percy Jackson.
Oh, wow.
Culture Skelter.
What's it called?
Oh, fuck.
I forget the name of this book.
It was so good.
How many is that?
Four.
Four.
Name 10.
48 Laws of Power.
I'm trying to think.
Five Love Languages.
How to Master Your Emotions.
I have a Dark Manipulation book, a narcissistic abuse book.
I have one coming in from Jordan Peterson, but it's new.
I don't know what it's called.
It's like the duo guys, the white and black one.
Beyond Otter?
Yeah, it's like the black and white one, the one that just came out.
I'm trying to think what else I got.
I have cookbooks a lot.
I don't know if that matters.
I have a lot of cookbooks.
I don't know why.
I'm trying to think what else I got there.
Ooh, I can't think of it anymore.
Hold on.
I know, like, once you start thinking about this, it's ridiculous.
Because Harry Potter series doesn't count, though, does it?
What does Harry Potter theory scale?
I only counted that as one.
Because, like, I don't read.
I'm honestly like not.
I was not in school.
You weren't?
The Bible counts as one, too.
Bible's a book.
I have a Bible.
Nice.
Anyways, we'll move on.
Flan Life, thank you for the Canadian $10, man.
Appreciate it.
Good to see you.
Hey, thank you so much for the support last show, Flan Life.
Really appreciate it.
You're a legend.
By the way, I emailed you.
I don't know if you saw it, but anyways, I would have been down for the Spoderman tickets.
TBH?
Oh, what I was saying earlier about those Spider-Man tickets.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Yo, we got Dinosaur D back again.
Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
If you ladies get rid of all your dating apps, how will you find a man considering you don't approach men?
Who says we don't approach men?
Who said that?
Yeah.
No one said that.
I mean, it's kind of just like, isn't that just the general order?
I approach the order of things.
I approach men.
Approach men too.
Oh, I don't have to do that.
I would learn how to.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I mean, I'd say, though, generally speaking, most women don't approach men.
So equality now, so we kind of have to.
Yeah.
Or a lot of women have ruined it for us.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Well, the thing is, is women don't even really need to.
You don't need to approach men because men are already going to be approaching you with dating apps and Instagram.
So like you can, women can get away with not approaching men and just picking among the options that they have.
So Instagram, dating apps.
If you go out to bars and clubs, guys are going to approach you that way.
So yeah.
Onifro, thank you for the Canadian $10.
Tay is so amazing.
I would consider becoming a passport bro to go to the States from Canada to date her.
Her values are on point and she's beautiful.
I'm done simping now.
I'm done.
Tay.
Thank you.
You got a little fan there.
It's got a crush.
Dinosaur D thing for the $10 Soup Chat.
Women are regarded as better snipers.
It has nothing to do with combat.
It is to do with accuracy on target.
Women, for some reason, are better at shooting long-distance targets than men.
That's cool.
I didn't even know that.
I know that I think in World War II, Russia had like women's, not a lot, but they had some women's.
Sorry.
Okay, we know you're tired.
Sorry.
Stop, stop.
OK, yeah, Russia had some female snipers and apparently they had like a ton of I don't know what the term is for for snipers for your kill counts or whatever.
But yeah, they do.
Apparently killed a lot of Germans.
Okay.
Dinosaur D thing for the $10 Soup Chat.
Props to the ladies, Viet Girl, Ukrainian girl, and Lady in the Back that aren't clapping back.
That's what ladies do.
They don't lower themselves to the level of haters and avoid conflict.
Okay.
Yo, we got, by the way, dinosaur, thank you so much for the support.
Is that a Pokemon?
What is that?
Is it the Pokemon?
No, it's not Pokemon.
It's like, but it reminds me of something.
It's a small dinosaur.
Is it like from a car?
I don't know.
It looks familiar.
Anyways, thank you, man.
Mango King, thank you for the $10 Soup Chat.
Much better panel than yesterday.
No one getting yelled at for being on their phones.
Oh, wait.
You talking about me?
My respects to Jade.
Hope she never changes.
Love the format of today 3v3, but everyone mature.
He knows my name.
Yeah.
Wait, so, okay, so no one getting yelled at for being on their phones.
You're talking about the nun.
Yeah, so the non-girl, she had a sour puss on her face the entire show.
And, you know, before the show, I said, hey, guys, don't pull out your phones.
Don't be on your phones during the show.
And she was like pulling out her phone, looking at it, and just kind of being, I don't know.
And so I told her, like, she pulled out her phone and was texting while one of the girls was talking.
And I was like, put your phone down.
So, anyways, so I don't know if he's criticizing me or he's upset at the girl.
But yo, we got Dayvon Jackson.
Thank you for the $20 Super Chat.
I'm not supporting the man that took advantage of her at all.
I'm saying it's dumb because I think that that man is trash and she blessed him with the greatest gift she can give to a man.
That's very sweet.
You go, man.
He's a good one.
Yeah, Dayvon's a good guy.
We chat on Instagram.
He's a good guy.
And he also owns, if you guys don't know, I think he's in New Mexico or Texas, and he owns a chain of waffle houses.
So yeah, he's a major proprietor of, if you're ever in Texas or New Mexico, he'll hook you up at waffle houses.
Wait, is that even?
I don't think Hawafa's house.
Oh, no, it's what's the big one in Texas?
Fuck, I forgot.
Anyone know?
Okay, whatever.
Roscoe's?
I don't know.
Okay, Dayvon Jackson, thank you for the $20 Super Chat.
Let me rephrase.
She's dumb to me until proven otherwise.
And otherwise, it's likely to be proven in this next hour or so.
Okay, so you said something nice, but it's kind of a bit of a put.
It sucks.
A little hot and cold.
So do you want to give your proxy to someone to talk shit?
Or no?
No.
Okay.
By the way, I want it.
Proxy.
I'm like, that's a good word.
Proxy.
I want to use that.
Okay.
We got Myers with the.
Is this, what is, does anyone know the currency?
Rupe.
Nope.
Rupees?
I don't know.
R10.
Thank you, man.
I bet that Ukrainian would be better mother than 90% of the mothers of nowadays.
Don't let them get to you, girl.
Keep learning.
You have great vision for your age.
Thank you.
Yeah, well, I mean, I think you've said some besides that one thing where I think a couple people questioned you a bit on that.
I mean, I think everything else you've said has been pretty on point.
Thank you.
Dave on Jackson with the big $50 super chat.
Thank you, man.
Much appreciated.
She slapped the world geography out of her.
Laughing my LMFAO.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
How much of a super chat from anybody for you to slap Savannah?
I wouldn't do that to her.
I love her too much.
No, you can do it.
No, I don't want to.
Do you want to receive another slap from Savannah?
No, okay.
That kind of hurt my head.
All right.
Isn't it just like a revenge?
I feel like I thought my head was tearing to the window.
I didn't know it was coming.
Honestly, I literally didn't think you've got to do it.
I got kind of scared.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay, please don't hate me.
No, I really don't at all.
Yeah, by the way, guys, this is no longer a dating show.
It is a sadist and masochist thing.
Okay, we got Denny Ace.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
I love how when men make stupid mistakes, they agree and they tell men to accept that they were dumb.
When you call a woman out for it, they get defensive and try to make excuses or try to justify.
Gus, we have a $10 Super Chat.
You can totally call someone called someone dumb who's showing signs of it.
Deblonde not only capped at the beginning, but through her friend under Debuss as well.
Debuss.
Y'all are walking contradictions.
Bring shame back.
Okay, thank you, Gus, for the super chat.
Mangu King, $10 Super Chat.
Virginity is not the greatest gift.
Her heart, attention, and loyalty are much more important than some mishap.
Don't act like you've never made a mistake.
So this is in response to Dayvon.
I agree.
All right, we have Dayvon Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
I want the clapbacks.
It's more entertainment.
He wants the clapbacks.
Jade, can I coach you on the clapback?
I want to get you a bit out of your comfort zone.
Does that work?
I just don't want to insult anybody.
I don't know them.
Insult them.
Okay, here's what I want you to do: I want you to look him straight in his eyes, dead in his eyes.
And I want you to say, Dayvon.
Repeat after me.
Dayvon.
Say it with a deep voice.
Your stupid face.
Say it.
Do it.
Your big, stupid face.
Your face.
Okay.
Call him a meanie pants.
You're a meanie pants.
Okay, I got that out of her.
Okay.
Yo, Chaz, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Let me ask, Chaz, every time you super chat, I'm just going to ask this.
Would you date a guy named Chaz?
Yeah, well, what's the problem?
No, I don't think there's anything.
But some girls might be like, red flag.
I love it.
Yeah.
Chaz, I love you, by the way.
I love you.
Wedding crasher.
But it's kind of like, okay, for example, is there any name that a guy could have where you're like, I would not date him?
For example, let's say his name was Bartholomew.
You're like, listen, you're great, Bart.
I just, I can't.
I can't say that name during sex, you know?
Like, oh, Bart.
So you don't say you say something else.
Bobby.
Oh, you say, like, yeah, I'll call him something different.
Nickname is my thing, baby.
Nicknames.
What about Eugene?
Do you think in the history of humanity anyone, like a woman has ever said Eugene, like moaned Eugene or some shit?
Why not?
Maybe Jean.
Well, okay, what about Cornelius?
That's got a cool name.
I like that.
I like that name.
Cornelius is kind of cool.
I don't know why.
This is my life goal, actually, to lie to a girl, tell her my name's Cornelius, and hook up with her and pray that she says my name during sex.
That's my life mission.
That's my life mission.
It's never, okay, anyways.
God.
Okay.
Yo, Mangu King.
Did I read the chat?
Time for me to ask ladies, would you ever dating?
Oh, oh my God.
Okay.
Okay.
Duh.
Okay, Jesus Christ.
Mango King, thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
You were not the issue.
The nun being child.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, the nun being childless was the issue.
Very harsh.
Oh, very hard for you to have proper conversations because of her and others being immature.
Today, much better panel.
Thus why I'm still around.
Hey, Mango, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
she was kind of trolling yesterday or uh on tuesday and um they're definitely i should have corrected I should have been a bit more assertive, like called her out, like checked her a bit, because there are a few times I watched the video back and I was like, sometimes the thing is, a lot of times it doesn't, like if a girl is kind of being disrespectful, it and maybe it doesn't phase me.
Like I don't care, but I'm realizing that maybe I should check it for the sake of the show because it'll continue and then the audience will get upset.
But like if someone and I've been getting a little bit better at it.
I've been hearing your guys' feedback, but it's not that I'm like scared to do it.
I'm just I'm unfazed.
You know, I've been doing YouTube for 10 years.
Like I get fucking shit talked and people in the comments and stuff.
So like I just don't I don't care.
But I'm gonna try to check check any sort of like nonsense much more.
So yeah.
Okay.
I think we oh wait.
No, we got a few more super chats.
Okay, we got yo Mr. K, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Ask Ukrainian what the Russian name for Eugene is.
It's Efgeni.
Imagine moaning that.
How do you say that?
Yeah, I dated the guy with that name.
Efgeni.
Evgeny.
You've dated Efgeni.
Yeah, Evgeny, but you're going to call it Zania.
It's just a different language.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah, we got Denny A. Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Now the girls have got to know everyone.
Now the girls have got to know everyone well.
Which girl on the panel would you want your future son to marry?
And which girl would you not want your son to marry and why?
Ooh, okay, that's an interesting question.
Who's going for?
Can we ask like questions before that?
Because I feel like I don't know enough information.
I got to know everybody's body count, like stuff like that for me.
Don't let anyone date me as I am.
That's all I'm answering.
Yeah, I will not answer that question as well.
Okay, I got so much shit for her.
I don't want to talk about it.
But you've already.
I know, but people were really mean to me.
I don't want to talk about it.
Just say that.
No, I don't want to.
Jubilee.
No.
Be honest.
No, people were actually.
Do you want me to tell you?
No.
People were really.
Can I tell you?
No, please don't.
People were being actually really mean to me in my interim comments.
Don't stay worried.
Yeah.
I deal with that to myself.
I just don't want to talk about it.
Okay, so guys, if you want to know her body count, you'll have to watch the preview.
You've already admitted it.
I know, but I don't want to talk about it because I got so much shit for her.
People were really, really mean to me.
They were pumping on my Instagram.
Like, oh, I would delete it.
They would keep commenting it.
Now they're going to think it's more than it actually is, though.
It's not, though, I don't know.
They're refusing to answer it.
I don't want to talk about it.
They're just going to assume.
They're going to assume it's 100%.
They can assume whatever they fucking want.
I don't care.
Okay, so it's okay with you if they assume it's 100.
Sure.
Okay, that's fine.
Okay, so body count.
It's 11.
Wait, hold on.
11?
Wasn't it 7 last time you wrote?
Yeah, I had a little week where I had a few months where.
Or not a few months.
I had a time.
I had a very, very, very bad few weeks.
Hurrah!
I was very, very low.
Don't judge her.
Yeah.
It was some like mental shit.
Like, I was going through some stuff.
Wait, okay.
We'll come back to that question.
We'll talk about the body count.
You mentioned some mental stuff, and you said that you have autism.
I have autism and severe depression.
Oh, good times.
Okay, so.
Oh, Mike Davis is just saying.
Did you say severe autism?
No.
Oh, severe depression.
Okay.
No, my autism isn't that bad.
Thank God.
Okay.
I don't know how I would deal.
You know what's interesting?
Like, and maybe this is obvious, but it occurred to me that in terms of the ease with which when it comes to dating between men and women and how it's maybe easier for women when it comes to dating and getting laid, I was thinking like if a woman's not neurotypical, if she has autism, for example, she can still fucking crush it.
Like she can get dick.
Whereas like a dude, a dude who's not neurotypical, you're kind of like you're fucked a little bit when it comes to not, I mean, not totally, but I mean, it depends how it presents itself.
But I think men who are like either autistic or who are not neurotypical are going to struggle major when it comes to dating.
So anyways, that's just.
The guy I'm kind of seeing right now is also autistic.
Oh, wow.
You're made for each other.
That's what I've been.
I've been making jokes about that.
Match made in heaven.
Okay.
So body count.
So you're 11.
Do you want to share yours?
Five including women.
Five including women.
Okay.
20-something.
20 to 30.
Yeah, you already kind of mentioned it.
Pass.
Four.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you shared.
That's that's.
I made my decision already.
Who is it?
Quick.
She'll be the one that my son marries, and you or you will be a no.
I don't know too much about her, but it's not because you're not, you know, too many bodies, and then you just said you're not a nurturer.
I want grandkids.
Yeah.
I made my decision.
So Ukraine or.
Yes, my son could marry her, but then these ones no.
But I don't know too much about you yet.
Can I be a part of the family?
Okay, Savannah.
I would let my son marry you.
I just like you.
I really like your voice.
Oh, really?
Thank you.
I really like it, yeah.
I wouldn't let my son marry you.
Oh, no.
I'm sorry.
It's just you're very naive, and I feel like it would just be like weird.
I'm very loving, though.
Yeah, I could sense that.
i get in love with my whole heart um do you want who who would you want your son to marry Oh, well, you don't want kids, but if you did, right, you don't want it.
You don't want kids.
Like, if it happens, cool.
If the non-she doesn't want to get married.
Okay.
Which girl?
Probably Tay Tay.
Tay Tay?
Okay.
Jubilee?
Probably Taylor.
Yeah.
She would be a good wife.
Yeah.
I love y'all.
Thanks.
You'd kill it.
Should I still, I'm sorry if I said that I will not intrude.
Well, you have to pick somebody.
If you have to go with you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, there you go.
Savannah's the crazy ant, dude.
My dog is her godson.
I'm fine with that.
Oh, wait.
So, okay.
Would you not want to say?
Okay, yeah, we did it.
All right.
Yo, Mike Davis, welcome.
Good to see you, man.
Tuning in.
Fill me in chat.
Which bee needs a stitch.
Good stuff, Dave Vaughan.
Keep it up, King.
Honestly, the girls have been pretty based, my dude.
Well, honestly, Mike, you would, if you were going to roast a girl, it would probably be Jade.
You missed a lot.
If you would have been roasting Jade, she's a sweetheart.
She's an absolute sweetheart.
But you would have been roasting.
So, yeah.
Okay, we got Mangu King.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
People will criticize your path as long as you have one.
Do not let the internet haters bother your state of mind.
Just do the best you can and be happy.
Thank you, Mango.
Appreciate it.
Okay, so I want to go around the table.
Is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
Maybe you can ask for some dating advice, or maybe there's something that frustrates you about dating.
We'll start over here.
Go ahead.
Where are all the gentlemen?
Where are all the gentlemen?
Yeah.
I actually, my friend, he's actually one of the like I didn't know that like gentlemen like still existed, but he's actually extremely gentlemanly.
And I was like, wow, it was a pleasant surprise.
I don't think he's a gentleman because he hooked up with you and then friends on you.
That's not a gentleman.
Wait, that's the guy you're talking about?
Or are you talking about a different guy?
I think it's that one.
But I don't know.
Maybe we have different definitions of gentlemen.
Exactly, yeah.
Like, he opens doors for me, and he's sweet and he's kind.
And like, I don't know.
He's a good person.
Okay, so the question is: where are all the gentlemen?
Yes.
Okay.
I think, Tay, you might have.
Do you have a thought on that?
There's gentlemen out there, baby.
I'm telling you.
You're just probably looking and knocking on the wrong door.
They're out there.
You just got to take your time.
Don't go on dates with random dudes you don't know.
Take your time to get to know somebody.
And me personally, you can take his advice if you want to.
I don't like talking to multiple people.
How are you going to get to know somebody and study them if you talk to multiple guys?
I feel like it's what's wrong with a lot of women nowadays.
That's an opinion.
Yes.
So, okay.
Savannah, did you want to?
Did you have so?
The question is: where did gentlemen, where's the gentleman?
Yeah.
Well, a lot of men are waking up to how the way the dating marketplaces and the way women move.
And we see the way women move, and we're like, well, we don't want to be gentlemen.
Like, for example, and I think, Tay, you might have reacted to this.
So I don't pay for a girl on the first date.
I heard that.
Maybe that's why you wanted to come on the show.
And the main reason is we live in California.
It's a fairly liberal place.
And my whole thing is that most of the women that at least, and perhaps part of this is my fault because, I mean, you know, maybe I've been going after the wrong women, but you'd be surprised.
There's some women who are moving in certain ways that you wouldn't think like it's they can be very unassuming.
So A lot of women are dating multiple guys.
They have multiple options.
They're dating a whole bunch of people at the same time.
Maybe they're sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
One, two, three guys.
I think that's not the exception.
I actually think it's the rule nowadays.
So going into a first date, I'm thinking, okay, she's probably talking to another guy.
She's probably sleeping with another guy, at least one.
And I've talked to girls who got one, two, three guys that they're sleeping with.
So it makes me think, I don't, I'm not going to pay for a girl under these circumstances because that's me being a gentleman.
That's me being more traditional and here, adhering to my traditional gender roles.
But you have to go first on that.
If you're not traditional, then I don't want to.
Also, I don't want to be a sucker.
That's the big thing.
I don't want to be played.
I don't want to be a sucker because you got foodie calls.
Oh man, I wish you'll have girls that'll just go on dates with you.
Yo, Elder Scrolls, thank you for the membership.
Appreciate it.
You'll have girls.
Let me thank you, man.
Girls will just go on a date with you because they're bored.
They want an experience.
Oh, man.
Maybe I can play this.
Hold on.
I'll play it.
Because she left me a voice memo.
Oh, God.
She left me.
This was a year and a half ago.
This girl I went on a date with left me a voice memo explaining we went on a date.
You'll just have to hear it.
Hold on.
I gotta make sure I don't.
Oh, don't hold on, guys.
It's gonna take a sec.
So, well, I'll just play it and you guys will hear.
All right.
And none of the girls were.
Oh, whoops.
Sorry.
That's wrong one, guys.
Wrong one.
Wrong girl, wrong girl.
No, no, no.
She's just sent me a fucking ton of voice memos.
Let's see.
Sorry, guys.
Hold on.
Find that fast for being a year over a year ago.
What's that?
Yeah.
Find out real quick.
I thought it was over.
Is it over a year ago?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
The voice memo is from over a year ago.
Yeah.
Found out very quickly.
Yeah.
No, here we go.
Okay.
So I actually wanted to tell you something to be honest, of course, to be honest, 100%.
I am dating another person right now.
The context is a little bit strange, but anyway, the summary is that I am dating somebody else.
The reason why I, anyway, I wanted to meet you, even if I'm dating somebody else, is because it's been so long that we have been, I don't know, exchange messages like one year without seeing each other.
And I just wanted to see you, like, in reality, in real, for real.
And I thought that if I had told you that I am dating somebody else, you probably wouldn't have wanted to.
I wouldn't have wanted to meet her.
So basically, just a little story.
This was like kind of peak pandemic.
So when she says we've been talking for a year, she went back to Italy.
She's Italian.
She was here.
We'd matched on dating app, but it was like pandemic hit.
She goes back to Italy.
We'd like every three months, we'd just say hey on Instagram, whatever.
She's like, hey, Brian, I'm back in town.
I'm like, hey, let's grab a coffee, whatever.
Meet up.
She has a boyfriend.
Oh.
And we met on a dating app.
So.
Can I ask you a question?
Sure.
Why did you meet with her if she has a boyfriend?
She did not tell me she had a boyfriend.
Until right then.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Sorry.
That's a, well, I mean, whatever.
It's not a big deal.
But it's like major, that's a yikes.
So, I mean, I've had these experiences and I've, you know, I've luckily I don't do food dates anymore because that's a bad idea.
But used to do food dates one or two times.
I've probably had a foodie call, whatever.
But like, this is what guys are encountering.
Like, this weird, to be fair, well, I shouldn't say to be fair, she wanted to meet me because I'm a curiosity because I have an interesting career.
Like, I have the YouTube thing.
She's never met an influencer or whatever.
But did you hear what she says?
I didn't want to tell you that I had a boyfriend because you wouldn't want to meet up with me.
That's true.
Well, that should have been my call.
Yeah.
She should have told me and then I could have gone from there.
But she basically went on a date with me under like a false.
Anyways.
And that's not a terror.
Like I've had other bad first dates, but yeah.
So just like bullshit like that, like dumb shit.
Dumb shit.
She's 31, by the way.
Like that's not.
Like she's old.
Like that's not.
Can I say something?
Yeah.
That's what scares me a lot about dating is the fact that like I told you guys I grew up with grandparents so I have a different mindset with this stuff and I love relationships and talking to one person at a time.
You saying that kind of like bothers me because a lot of women feminists have ruined it and like men don't want to take women out on dates anymore, especially if you guys are giving it up like Skittles.
Like I said, they don't have to.
What's the point?
If they're getting it for free, they don't have to be chivalrous.
They don't have to do all that.
First of all, you can always ask for a walk, coffee, FaceTime, whatever you need to ask the questions and to get the wipe.
True.
And then, you know, realize you want to contribute.
That's the first thing.
Second thing, I think.
It's kind of weird for me that in the US, you try to make it fair around like, let's say, $20, $30 bill that you pay for a girl.
So basically, as a successful man, you're arguing that I need my $20, $30 back because I had this expectation, but she didn't meet my expectation.
So the contract we kind of had was wrong, right?
So I didn't get out of her what I wanted.
So that's why it's unfair to me because I paid with the expectation that there could be a relationship, right?
But for example, in Ukraine, men buy flowers, expensive bags, cars for the woman they're just dating.
They're not married.
No, I'm serious.
It's just.
Yeah, go ahead.
How are the women in Ukraine?
Could you compare them to the women out here?
Oh, that's a different thing.
They're probably queens, they're probably queens.
That's why.
Ukrainian women are probably more traditional and thus they elicit traditional behavior in their men.
See, men haven't changed.
We haven't really changed that much.
It's women who have changed.
Go ahead.
Have you also heard women in this generation going, I'm a baddie, I'm a 10, I'm not a slave.
I don't got to cook or clean for you.
I never heard that.
There's a lot of women who do that.
Like if you go on social media, even in real life, women talk like that nowadays.
So that makes a man not want to do a lot of things.
And you know what sucks?
They'll ruin it and scream so loud from the rooftops that they forget that there's women like us who want marriage, want love, want loyalty, and want all that.
Yeah, men haven't changed.
We adapt.
So the dating marketplace has shifted.
If, see, women are the gatekeepers of sex.
So if what it takes to get sex from a woman is marriage, that's what men will do.
But if what it takes to get sex from a woman is a couple messages on the dating app come over, that's what men will do.
Because men generally, that's like our primary motivating things to get sex.
So men really haven't changed so much.
Feminism freed women from commitment, from marriage.
So, I mean, there's different people with different perspectives.
You're definitely looking for somebody who has certain kind of values so that if you don't net on that even simple level, that's a no for you as well.
It's not just a no from like your side.
So, like, just I guess thesis would be to move on and find somebody and ask the questions you want to ask that gonna, you know, give you what you want.
Okay.
I also, I don't think, like, all men like want necessarily that like low body count, like, someone submissive.
And I feel like it's it varies on all men don't.
Yeah, based off of that.
No, not all men, but most men want those things.
Yeah.
But sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
Go ahead.
And I also don't think all women feel like ashamed to have a high body count or ashamed to be like sexually liberated.
I don't.
They don't, but they should.
Why should they?
Why should they be ashamed?
Yeah.
Well, okay, well, we can go back to the body count thing, but I don't think and I don't think either men or women should be promiscuous.
Some men argue, well, it's okay for men.
And there are differences between men and women, and there is a double standard there.
But I'm coming at this from what makes society function best.
And that is the nuclear family, traditional households, and monogamy.
That's how society functions best, I think.
I agree.
I agree.
I think there's so many people and so many different personalities that it's impossible to fit us all in that box.
So I feel there are different, there are many different people who pride themselves in being sexually liberated.
I mean, I think they've been, I think they've been sold a lie.
No, I think you can enjoy sex and still believe in monogamy and being more traditional and all these things.
And listen, look, ultimately at the end of the day, you're free to do whatever you want.
You have autonomy.
If you want to move in life a certain way, that's fine, right?
But I'm thinking in terms of what is best for society, it's monogamy.
And family.
And people not getting divorced.
And raising kids.
Yeah, I feel like society would function better if people would stay together and work together to raise their children.
But, you know, life is hard.
And I think that's a good idea.
But some people don't want to have children.
I think that's fine.
But we are.
I guess a complaint I have, not a complaint, but I'm concerned about how the divorce rate is sky high.
Divorce is super common.
And I don't know.
I don't think it's a good.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I just.
i had a comment about monogamy before but that's fine um i think they divorced her well you can say what you wanted to say initially um I think monogamy now is different from monogamy that it used to be because monogamy now is one person at a time.
Monogamy in the 17th century is one person for life.
So we're talking about different definitions of monogamy, and then we include the open relationship and all the kind of stuff that creates even bigger confusion for people.
And I think that women assault the idea that they are like man.
Can also perceive a sex as sport, which is not true because the moment you agree to have a sex with a man, you agree you can have a child with a child with that person.
And that's wired in you biologically.
That's just how your body works.
You can deny it, you can lie to yourself, you can say that's not true, you feel differently, but you have that longing to continue in the relationship with that person with whom you had sex.
And that's because you are emotionally attached to that.
That's why men can have a lot of different sexual encounters and still not feel a thing for them.
Like, you know, they can love the one person but fuck with another one.
But woman can't.
Like, we emotionally attach to the person we have a sex with because we agreed to have a child with that person.
Well, here's the thing, though, is when a woman has had a lot of sexual partners, she loses that.
Yeah, that's true.
I agree.
But you're right.
Just women can start chipping away at that bonding.
Yeah.
So, and you wanted to come in?
And I liked exactly what you said, but I feel like women should not be promiscuous at all.
I agree with you, by the way, because like he said, they cannot commit after having multiple partners.
And on top of that, imagine sitting there.
You want to be a wife, you want to be loyal.
How can you do that if you're practicing, you know, sucking fun dip every week?
You're not practicing cooking.
You're not practicing mental health.
You're not practicing how to talk to him, how to cater, how to be submissive, and how to talk to him in a nurturing way.
You're practicing sucking pee-pee.
That's not the same thing.
But what if that's not what you want?
What if you don't want to be?
I'm only speaking on women who want to be wives.
All the other OFOs and all those type of girls, I'm not talking to y'all.
Not you, but like in general, being honest.
It's only for my traditional queen.
Sorry.
Can I also add on that?
You're started talking about divorce rate.
I think the reason the divorce rate is so high is because men don't know how to build a relationship.
Women don't know how to build relationships.
So they start the sex part because it's the most easier part to figure out a relationship.
That's like everybody knows how to do that.
We never were taught how to do that.
That's like a natural thing for us.
But nobody talks and teaches us how to communicate, how to build boundaries, how to communicate your values, how to talk about future together and stuff like that.
And that's why people are so bad at like actual long-term relationship because when the sex part is eliminated, there is nothing left.
Being honest, you can only say that for so long.
You know what I mean?
Like once you get to a certain age, maybe there's books, there's education.
If you could sit on your phone all day, watch TikTok things, you could watch how to be a wife.
Pearly things, she has a wife edition thing that she does for a whole hour.
She teaches you guys how to be wives.
So there's all these things now that you can learn to be a wife.
So when women give me another excuse after another, I'm not buying it.
It's going in one ear, out the other.
No, I'm saying that people jump to the sex part so quickly because that's the easiest thing you can do.
Women are the ones who control sex.
So women control.
Assuming their lives.
Yeah, assuming consent and all that kind of stuff.
And assuming there's men who may not also want to have sex that fast, whatever.
Yes.
People jump so fast because the sex part is understandable.
I agree.
And here's another thing too.
Like at least with me, I'm a very stern woman.
I know what I bring to the table and I offer a lot.
So when I talk to a man, I tell him, I'll cook for you.
I'll do whatever you want.
I'll meet your needs.
But I'm not having sex with you too soon.
I think a lot of people misconstrue if I don't sleep with you right off the bat that I'm not into you.
That's not the case.
I want to get to know you.
I want a deeper connection because I want a husband.
That's what I'm looking for.
So if women had stern boundaries, the world would be so different right now.
But instead, they want to be, oh my God, let's pop it open for everybody.
That's not good at all.
I agree.
Damn.
You're going to kill it on Sunday, by the way.
Actually, you should join us.
I don't know if you can.
Yeah, you should.
I like the video.
You talk great on Sunday because I'm putting together.
You're killing it.
You can kill me.
I'm putting together a pretty crazy panel for our Sunday show, which, by the way, guys, whoops, didn't mean to play that.
We are switching to Sunday, Tuesday schedule, guys.
So this is our last Thursday show.
Maybe it'll come back, but we are switching Sunday and Tuesday.
So the original question was, what happened to the gentleman?
Oh, I had something for that.
It slipped my mind.
Unfortunately.
That was a good one.
We all ran with it.
That was a good one.
Did you want to respond?
Because I know we kind of...
Did you want to come in at all?
Regarding.
Well, we had responded to something that you said.
About females being able to be sexually liberated?
Well, OK, you said that.
So let's decouple enjoying sex from you can be you can enjoy sex, but also kind of have more traditional views or not engage in casual sex.
And listen, I think you should be free to do whatever you want, but I don't think it makes people happy.
I don't think it's fulfilling.
And I mean, from your own experience, it sounds like you have not had particularly positive encounters.
You're free to do whatever you want.
I just wanted to let you know, but it doesn't sound like it's been a positive.
No, I mean, I am an emotional person, and I do get emotionally attached.
And like you said, but I don't feel like it makes anybody any less of a person if they have a high body count or if they like to hook up with people.
I think like, I don't know, I think there's way more to life than just being a wife.
Like you to spread love and kindness to one another.
I think that is so important.
And being married and being a wife doesn't, it's not, for me personally, it's not my like end all goal.
Sure.
So when we're talking about body count and promiscuity, we're not talking about someone's value as a human being.
That's not really the framing.
What we're talking about is their value in the dating marketplace and how potential partners are going to view that.
So if you are promiscuous, if you have a high body count, men are going to view that and say, I think it's a red flag.
A lot of men are not attracted to women with high body counts, generally speaking.
We don't want to date promiscuous women.
But then, you know, I'll find somebody who will be okay with it.
Trust me.
I mean, there are plenty of simps that will be fine with it.
And look, some men don't care, right?
But I think those men might be the ones that are just going to continue wanting something just casual from you.
And maybe that's what you want.
And then that's fine.
But the guy who's for just sex, guys care less about body count.
But for long-term commitment, guys are going to look at a woman's past and say, okay, is she promiscuous?
Does she have a high body count?
If so, is this someone I want long-term?
Is this someone I want to marry?
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I would hope that they would get to know me long enough to not really care about that, to see the person behind that.
Sure.
Yeah, well, and I mean, I don't.
I think perhaps also you may make up for it in other ways too.
For example, you seem like a nice person.
You're sweet.
You're attractive.
So I think, you know, you have that going for you.
You seem feminine.
So, but.
Go ahead.
You wanted to come in, so go ahead.
No, it's just like you're saying you would allow the person to know you enough to tell and like choose you.
But for that, you had to say no to sex because you're going to ask.
Well, yeah, that's why I'm in therapy.
Okay.
Did you want to come in or?
No, I don't have to say that.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah, I totally, I had something that I wanted to say, but it slipped to my mind.
But okay, we have, did we?
Wait.
Oh, damn.
Did I do this one?
Yes, yeah.
Okay.
Mike Davis, $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Sounds like you ran into a tranny, Brian.
Count your lucks.
Excuse me.
Count your lucky stars.
Good think it was one and done, or you may have had a dick up your, okay.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
Appreciate it.
Can I say something real quick?
Sure.
Everybody in the chat keeps writing therapy for her, but a lot of men tell us that we don't self-improve.
So the fact that she's in therapy and you guys are bagging on her, you know, she didn't do that.
I'm proud of you, Jade, for that.
Therapy is amazing.
Yes.
It's like amazing to have someone to talk.
Therapy is what made me the person I am right now.
I'm sitting here talking to you, articulating my words, taking accountability.
Therapy is what made me like this and my grandma.
Accountability, baby.
All right.
let's see we have uh onifro canadian ten dollars Thank you, man.
Where are the gentlemen?
They still exist, but two things push men away from it.
Feminism attacking traditional roles and killing chivalry.
Women insulting and using men for their kindness.
Yeah, I think the thing I was going to say, I think had to do with this, but it's just slipped my mind.
All right, we have Denny Ace here with the $10 Super Chat.
The gentlemen are literally in your friend zone.
Oh, I remember what I was going to say.
So where are the gentlemen?
So a lot of men's experience, when we do do the right thing, when we are, when we are nice, when we do the traditional courtship, a lot of men's experiences, we get burned when we do that.
When we do the right thing, when we pay for the bill, when we, you know, are all these things, right?
Being gentlemen, opening the door.
I don't know.
What are some other examples of being a gentleman, paying for?
Being chivalrous, securing her in general, like opening the door for her, complimenting her, just being there for her, taking care of her heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've been like, we, so many men have been burned when we do that with women because we do that and then we see the women and they go after the jerk, the asshole, the bad boy.
And we men want to do what works.
So if you're tired of assholes, I mean, stop.
Women reward men who are assholes, who are jerks, who are bad boys.
You go after these men.
So, go ahead.
There was literally on Fresh and Fit where they were talking about this, and there were women laughing, say that they chase toxic men.
That's what they like, because toxic men give you something that normal men don't.
Crazy roller coasters, they're nonchalant, and they ignore the fuck out of you.
So that literally makes you go crazy.
But there's guys out here, probably in your DMs, messaging you every day talking about, girl, you're beautiful, girl, your good morning every single day.
Those girls don't want that because, oh, he's too nice, or oh, he gives me the ick.
But in all reality, that man would probably be a great father.
That man will probably give you a good morning text every single day, but you guys don't want those men.
So it kind of sucks because all those men now sitting on the back burner and they're waiting.
And at this point, they're tired now.
I'm going to do a good one.
I think that you also don't want the woman who don't value you being a gentleman, right?
You want a woman who values that.
So if she doesn't value you and choose somebody in a different direction, then she's not for you.
You choose somebody who will value that and stay consistent with you and appreciate you for your kindness.
it just a mismatch of values but i mean you can't change what What do you do when 90% of the women do go after the bad boy, the jerk, the asshole?
You choose the one who doesn't.
But I feel like it's hard to say.
Because I feel like guys are the ones who initially are the ones asking us out, doing all the courting.
They're probably way more tired than us.
We're just sitting here getting all the luxury from it.
So imagine him.
He's probably so tired of this.
Going on dates, liking you, telling you good morning every single day, buying you things, and then it's not reciprocated, or you don't appreciate him.
So that makes sense.
Yeah.
All right, we have Denny Ace here with the Tendosu Chat.
The gentlemen are literally in your friend zone.
Yeah, that's a good point.
You literally don't want those men.
You called you.
You called you, labeled him friend for a reason.
They are invisible.
You are the ones who dictate how men are.
The thing is, is that guys who are nice, guys that would actually be fantastic husbands, great fathers, they're usually not particularly exciting.
And a lot of women are attracted to exciting men that can, you often hear women say, I don't feel the click.
I don't feel the spark.
I don't feel the connection.
I don't feel the chemistry.
So a guy who's going to be a who's a good person, who would be a good father, good partner, he might not be capable of eliciting.
He might not be particularly charismatic or conversationally.
Maybe he's a bit shy when he's first meeting you.
And I don't know.
Did you want to look like you want to?
I low-key wish that sometimes what he's saying, if I see a shy guy or introverted guy, I don't take that as, oh, he's this, he's a creeper, whatever.
I like that because I want to bring a sight out of you no other woman has.
So I wish women would look at it in a different way.
Like we can bring those things out of men instead of looking at in a negative quality.
Does that make sense?
Because those type of qualities are really good, I think.
You know what I mean?
Instead of chasing the bad boys.
Yeah.
I'm going to say, so the longest guy I dated was actually the one I didn't like at first date.
Like it was a no for me.
Like I couldn't.
It's just like, I didn't like him enough.
I was like, but then he asked me again and he was like very nice and he continued to text and stuff like that.
And it kept going.
I mean, we had a misalignment of values in the sense of how we see our future.
But at the same time, like he was the only one in the like, and we were having this conversation when he was telling me, oh, you know, I'm going to get you.
Like, you know, it doesn't matter whether you kind of, because I was speaking with other guys and I told him that.
I was pretty open about that.
Because we were not in a relationship.
So I was like, I'm talking to you and I'm talking to this other guy.
And he's like, it doesn't matter to me.
I know you're going to choose me.
And I did that in the end, which is, you know, it didn't make sense for us to continue because we had a different idea about the future.
I would have paid you $10 to not tell me that story.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, actually, I went on a date.
I don't know.
It must have been a week ago or something.
I don't know.
We hung out once.
I was like, hey, let's hang out again.
That's not verbatim what I said.
Hey, it was nice meeting you, but I didn't feel the connection.
I'm looking forward.
Wish you the best.
So, I mean, this is frequently what men encounter: I didn't feel the vibe.
I didn't feel the connection.
I didn't feel the chemistry.
And I think long-term relationships, that is something that is, I believe, built.
It's not because to me, it's not.
I put the vibe, the connection, the chemistry, I put that on the same level as love at first sight.
And if you ask most people, do you believe in love at first sight?
Most people say no.
And if you do, I mean, maybe some people have had that.
But here's actually, here's a good question I could ask.
Have any of you felt the vibe with a guy?
All of us are like, yeah.
Okay.
Did that end up working out?
Or did that guy end up being not such a good match after all?
Yeah.
We have a point now.
Yes.
Yeah.
We have a point.
Yeah.
So clearly, chemistry or connection or electricity or the vibe or lightning or whatever butterflies, whatever bullshit term you use to describe this feeling, it's not a good indicator that this is going to be a good person for you to date.
So I think us as women, we have really high expectations, and I think that's what sets us like bad at first.
Also, watching all these movies, all these guys doing these extravagant things, so we expect all these things.
But in all reality, you have to make memories and create memories with guys in order to build that vibe.
That's what I've learned along the way.
You can't just judge somebody off the first like encounter.
You don't know if he's shy.
You don't know if he's been on these dates and like he's super nervous.
You don't know what he's going through, you know?
So I feel like we consume things and we don't understand how a man really is.
You know what I mean?
So.
Yeah.
I think we should cancel the porn for the guys and cancel Cinderella stories for the girls.
Well, okay, you mean like Disney shit?
Yeah, Disney shit, no soapra, no comedies, no happy ever-ending, no that kind of stuff, and no porn for the guys.
That's all.
Or make Disney movies so that men and women both can get catered to.
Why is it always the prince running to the girl all the time?
Where's the girl who's going to the guy?
Would you build up a man?
Would you build up a man?
I have a question for you.
you build up a man if you see me okay so if you've seen a man right and he's like all your type fits everything He just doesn't make great money, doesn't have certain things, but you know he's ambitious, you know he's a good man.
Would you build him up?
So that means you take care of him in all aspects, help him with certain things and build him up.
Women don't do that.
You know that?
Back then, a lot of women did.
Women want the finish line and they don't want to go to the street.
This is wrong.
This is wrong.
No, this is facts.
This is 100% facts.
This is fact.
This is not all women.
It's not all women.
Can I say?
Yes, go ahead.
Thank you.
So as far as I understand, in the 15th century, the way that the 15th century.
No, we're talking evolution here, right?
We're talking how it...
Okay, we can talk 19 seconds.
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
The woman who was young and coming from a good family chose the most richest guy in the neighborhood.
The one that had the money.
Neighborhood?
No, no, no.
1500s?
Neighborhood, I mean the city, the where'd you get this information from the 150s?
Hold on.
In the 1500s, women were not choosing.
The fathers.
I'm pretty sure it was.
The fathers was choosing, but they weren't choosing based on what?
On their success, right?
On the money.
On how actually successful they are.
Not the ambitious part.
Like, ambitious is important, but like how they actually are successful.
And based on that, we're pairing out.
You can build up a man, yes or no?
That's all I ask, baby cakes.
Build up a man, yes or no?
Building up a man.
So like, okay, you can either choose a man who's six-figure earner or a man who's just an average man.
Like say he works, he's a mechanic or subway or something, but he has all the qualities you ever wanted besides the job portion.
That's building up a man.
So if he says, babe, I'm into, you know, being a barber, would you go and buy his clippers?
Go and buy his stuff, buy the first studio, build up a man, just like a man would build you up.
I don't know.
yes or no I think you're phrasing it the wrong way because no I'm saying it perfectly right baby I can say it again in different languages.
Man, don't build the woman up.
Where is this man building the woman up?
Where should I be built?
Oh, I think you're okay.
Men build women up all the time.
Men will give us money.
Men will do our nails, do all these things for you.
You ask a man, a good man, hey, babe, help me with my business.
He's going to do that.
You tell a man, oh, babe, do this for me.
Men, most of the time, will pay for everything.
Buy your groceries, do everything for you.
You ask a man, babe, something's wrong with my tire.
He's going to go over there.
I don't know what kind of guys you experience, but I had a man even teach me how to change a tire.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
So that's why I'm saying I would build up a man because I have been built up by a man.
Does that make sense?
So that's what I'm saying.
Simple question, baby.
Would you build up a man, be his right or die, or no?
Get no?
He's not attractive for me.
That's my thought.
Okay, that's all I need to know.
Well, you want the guy that's pre-assembled.
Yes.
Yeah.
You want a guy who's already.
Okay.
Well, I mean, earlier you said you want the guy who's ambitious, right?
Yeah.
Okay, but that kind of goes back to the thing I said that women don't want ambitious men.
They want ambitious men that have reaped the benefits of said ambition.
So a guy who's like I said, the guy who's ambitious, but he makes $20K a year.
Yeah, it's unambitious.
Well, he's ambitious, but...
Where is his ambition?
He's selling his rap CD on the street.
You can't hustle and work at like a warehouse job or things like that and make money on the side.
Everybody starts somewhere.
Can't judge people for what they do.
No, I agree.
I agree.
But that at the same time is that my attraction.
It's the way I'm attracted.
Let's say to money.
Yeah.
Just say that.
I can say that.
I'm excited to the status in the society because that's how I enjoy life.
I have a question.
So do you think you love him for him and like the type of person he was?
So if that money was stripped from him, no more six figures, would you still be there?
You divorcing him.
That's what I mean.
That's why I say that.
Like I have a rider-die mentality.
Like, my man goes paralyzed.
He loses a foot.
He gets cancer.
I'm right there for him.
So a lot of women just slowly think about money.
Like money isn't everything.
You could lose that in a heartbeat, baby.
I think I'm thinking about my kids.
Well, I have a question for you.
If you are dating someone and they have a job that makes a lot of money, but they are not happy with it, and it's very, very clear.
And then there's another man you're seeing, and he's very happy with his job.
He's very passionate about it, but he makes very low income.
Like, who would you go with?
I told her that I will go for somebody who is less than my level of income.
So that's one thing.
It's just a problem.
Then it creates a disproportionate relationship whereas somebody owns more.
It's a power dynamic.
And I can't feel a moment anymore because I just don't feel a woman next to the man who achieved or had less than I do.
So you would feel more powerful because you have more money, even though you guys are together and that's your partner.
I see it as my husband, what's mine is his, what's his is mine.
And like I said, if he loses his money tomorrow, what am I going to do?
Buy, babe?
It's a different situation.
He's remarried, write or die, baby.
Where he loses his money tomorrow is a different thing.
I'm not talking that I'm going to leave him when he loses his money.
I'm talking that I want somebody who is able to build his personality because that's going to be my son.
That's going to be my daughter who's going to follow that example.
And I just can't allow myself to just choose somebody who's going to sell the shirts on the street a whole day.
Well, I'd rather see my children see their father go from poor to like fat.
See how hard they work.
Because that's what my parents did.
We grew up dirt poor.
We did not have a house.
Like all this shit.
Like I would not have learned how to get up like successful if I had not seen firsthand my dad doing it.
Like we grew up, my dad knows people who work at the airport.
Like we lived in an airport hangar.
Like we had no house, no car, nothing.
We lived in an airport hangar.
We did, yes.
Like in one of the offices.
Like that's where we lived.
God damn.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like I grew up like with no money and I saw my dad work insanely hard for what he has, like for what I have now.
That's Peru.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
Like I'd rather have my daughter, my son, have that than have a father who's already like very wealthy and like very well.
There's a different dimension of being poor and rich and different starting points.
I grew up the same way as you did.
Like you know, the salaries in Ukraine, the exchange rate was like dollars in like Ukrainian.
Like that's that's insane.
You okay?
That jokes on some water, guys.
I'm not laughing at you.
Yeah, so I grew up the same way as you did as I see my father expanding.
And that's when I decided that I want to move to US.
And, you know, I got the full scholarship at my university where they pay for everything, right?
Because my dad cannot afford that.
They can afford some stuff, but not that.
So that I cannot afford myself somebody who never worked to get anything in life as well.
And that comes with results because results in the only way you can assess where somebody is actually capable of achieving something.
All right, let's do some, let's get the rest of these super chats here.
All right, so did I do this one?
Did we?
No.
Okay.
Gus, $10 Super Chat Chivalry is dead.
Women killed it.
Yep.
Y'all yell, I'm independent, don't need no man.
Being a gentleman means being unequal.
Most men need to level up, but we are chivalrous.
But nice guys finish last.
Yeah, I think I already touched on that.
Basically, we've all had the experience of doing the right thing, being the gentleman, paying for the date, doing the courting thing.
And, you know, we'll wait.
Wait, and then that same girl goes and just like, fuck some other dude.
It's just like, it has nothing to do with you, it's her.
So you can't.
You can continue being a man you want to be, but that's have nothing to do with her.
Okay, that's a good point but, like we, we are going to start adapting how we interact with women.
If we're realizing like, men are problem solvers, okay, me being nice, it doesn't work.
Okay, what works.
Okay, kind of like being a little cocky or being a bit of an asshole or a jerk or whatever, being like we're gonna gravitate.
Gravitate towards what works, towards average, towards average yes because, as you're saying, that's what works, average works.
So you gravity towards being average.
Well, I don't know if it's average, because I think you have women that are basically chasing after the top 10 or 20 percent of men.
So I don't know if it's really average.
But um yeah and, and what you also have is just, men have been burned so badly when it comes to dating.
They either just opt out they're like i'm done, or they're gonna go fucking to Thailand, they're gonna go to uh, the Philippines, they're gonna go to, you know, somewhere else.
They're like, okay, western women, i'm done goodbye, and they're gonna go live in the cat.
You know, whatever they're gonna they're, they're out.
Okay, we got um Gareth Pickford thing for the Australian.
Uh 15 appreciated, mate.
Has this been?
I can't do an Australian accent, fuck it okay.
Has this been discussed?
40 45 of women will be single by 2030, according to global leader in financial services, Morgan Stanley report.
Most women do not realize the heartache and struggle to conceive later.
Uh yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
Um, those projections are concerning um yeah um I, you know.
I think the big thing is is that in the past, the way most men made themselves attractive to women was by being a provider.
But because that's no longer necessary, women are looking more towards other things in terms of like thinking, of an attractive partner, and so a lot of guys are kind of getting.
The way they used to be attractive was, hey, i'll be a provider, i'll have a job, like well, now we've doubled the labor pool, and so it's.
You can't really even support a family on one income.
And, by the way, I just want to make something clear.
I think it's, I think it's.
Women should certainly have be able to work and have the right Pursue whatever they want, whether that's be a mother or stay at home or go out and work a career and be a boss, babe.
You should have the right to do that.
And I think it's obviously I want more women researchers researching on cancer and these serious problems that need to be fixed.
I'm in favor for it, but there are some corresponding issues as far as what happens when you double the labor pool in an economy.
There's going to be some corresponding societal issues.
And part of that is you can no longer support a family on one income.
All right, we have Dave on Jackson here with the $10 Sup Chat.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you.
Protect Tay at all costs.
He's a fan.
Thank you.
Mike Davis, $10 Sup Chat.
Ask the depressed autist if she's in the mood for some Mike Davis in her life.
Her autistic boyfriend is the blind leading the blind.
Big L. You got to shoot back.
I like my autistic boy.
He's like, he understands my brain.
That's how it is.
He's beautiful.
Like, he understands how my brain is.
And, like, no one else really.
Other people I've seen, like, they don't understand how my brain works.
Are you going to fire back?
No.
No.
Come on.
I'd rather just explain.
Yo, we got dinosaur D here with the $10 Super Chat.
Jade is trying to justify her account.
Don't justify it.
It's a bad thing.
Own the L, except you made the bad decisions and going forward, change your ways so you don't make the same mistakes again.
Who's your proxy on this?
Jade responds.
I don't think it's an L. I'm not ashamed of my body count.
Okay.
By the way, guys, before we wrap up here, we have a TTS.
Someone, please trigger the TTS.
Please, I want to make sure it's working.
Anyways, okay, we have Dave on Jackson here, $20 Super Chat.
The problem with a high body count isn't an issue with you as a person.
It's the fact that you tend to develop habits that aren't conducive to a lasting and fulfilling relationship.
Yeah, so, I mean, there's a few concerns with the whole body count thing.
So, yeah.
Okay.
Everyone's in her.
I mean, nobody even really knows how it even got that high.
So I don't think that it's any of their business.
Nobody knows.
Yeah, I mean, like, it's none of their business.
Like, why it is that high.
You know what I mean?
Well, it's the thing with body count, and a guy doesn't even necessarily need to know the number, but if you've had a lot of sexual partners, how does it say about the way you view relationships?
What does it say about self-control?
What does it say about?
Well, if they're not going to listen or sit and like let me, if I, I don't even feel like I need to explain myself to them, but sometimes people go through depressive episodes where they're numb.
I don't think being depressed is a good justification.
That's not a good thing.
Sometimes you're numb and you really, you just don't feel anything.
Okay, that's.
Can I say something?
Sure.
Okay, so that's what I went through.
I lost complete emotion.
Like, I went into a huge disassociative state.
And the butterflies I have are covering my self-harm marks.
And instead of using like physical self-harm, I was using like sex as a way to cope with stuff and like using it as a way to be like, hey, like, you're not okay, like using this, like distracting myself.
I mean, the reasons, the reasons in which you engage in a behavior doesn't undo that you engaged in said behavior.
No, no, no.
I'm like very ashamed of it.
Like, I don't like that I did it.
Right, but if you try to tell a guy that, well, I did this because I was just going through a tough time, tough.
Like.
Well, I wouldn't explain it like that.
I would say, like, hey, this is like my body count.
I also feel like men care so much about body count too, because once you guys get married, you guys become one.
Just like a lot of women care about a man's income, he has the right to know about your body.
Because think about this.
You fucked 50 dudes.
None of them stuck with you.
None of them put a ring on it.
That says a lot.
Word.
And I mean, this one is often overlooked.
I mean, there's a STD concern.
If you've had more partners, you can get an STD.
More likely to have an STD.
So there's that.
And yeah.
Okay, let me get through these soup chats here.
Did I do this one?
Oh, my bad.
All right, we have Dave on Jackson, $20 Super Chat.
Wait.
And this may not apply to Jade, but most women wouldn't ever give a man the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't meet her requirements.
Most wouldn't even get to know a dude if he just wasn't even tall enough.
Mango King, $10 Super Chat, what are we using as the basis of a high body count?
10, 30.
I'm not a simp, but I've never cared about body count.
I do care about how she treats me.
Issue with red pill is that it crushes women.
Okay, Mangu King, I have a question for you.
You say you don't care about body count.
So would you be okay with dating a woman for long-term, serious relationship, marriage, the future mother of your children?
You'd be okay if she slept with 200 guys before you?
I don't think your past really matters.
Your past doesn't, you think your past doesn't matter?
No, like how you meet them.
Hold on.
Go ahead.
How you get to know them from that point on, I feel like is what matters the most.
Okay, let me, I'll let you come in in just a sec.
So your past should not matter.
To an extent.
Let's speak about sexual past, right?
Because I could give some examples, some like random examples about past not mattering.
Let's say you met a guy and he cheated on every single one of his last partners.
It's his past, right?
It shouldn't matter, right?
But does past behavior indicate potential future behavior?
So all the girls that he was with, he cheated on all of them.
I mean, he could possibly cheat on you, but you wouldn't know until you get to know him.
Well, it's a power of behavior.
He might not, but he might not.
If you're a betting woman, if you're a betting woman, because you can, I'm sure you have preferences, standards, and boundaries, right?
Would it be your preference to date someone who had not cheated on a previous partner?
I feel like almost all men cheat.
Well, that's not true.
That's not true.
I feel like a lot of them do.
That's not true.
No.
Some people in the red pill say like men are only as faithful as their options.
I disagree with that.
Men can absolutely be loyal.
I agree.
100%.
What's the red pill?
Oh, I mean, I don't know if you've seen the movie The Matrix.
There's this scene.
Okay, there's a scene where someone is offered a blue pill and a red pill.
To take a red pill is to awaken to the truth.
You see things for what they are.
You see things for what they are, the truth, the reality.
If you take the blue pill, you're just heading the sand.
Go ahead.
I want to say something to what you said.
You said past doesn't matter.
As somebody who's been, as somebody who's been depressed and literally has had, like, I don't even want to say it on here.
I know all about that and I've never been promiscuous.
Yes, we are all different, but if you do that when you're depressed, how does he know that when you go through postpartum, you're not going to go and do that again or do it whenever you feel some type of way?
He doesn't know that he's only taking your word, but that's your past.
Yeah, and it's not like uh I don't know, I don't feel like you can say that that's how I cope every single time.
That was just the use that example, that's why I'm using it as an example to use it back to you.
It's what had happened when I because when I was 26, my parents got divorced.
Literally, my foundation, everything I believed in, was rocked.
And I didn't know really what I believed in anymore.
I went through extreme depression, and I didn't, I didn't really know who I was anymore.
So, and then I jumped into dating right away, and those two combined were it was a lot, it was a lot for me, and I didn't know how to cope with it.
But it's not how I would cope with things moving forward.
Okay, and I have another question for you: when you were like growing up and stuff, did your mom or parents ever tell you like not to be promiscuous, or did they never tell you things like that?
Or you just, you didn't know, you just did it because you did it.
No, it was always just like save yourself, you're supposed to save yourself or your husband.
So, you knew that, okay.
That's what I want to know.
Can I ask?
So, you're saying it's it's different now, right?
So, like, that's what I mean.
I understand people go through different heart situations in life, and you need what you did because you had your reasons for writing.
You're saying it's different now.
Can you tell me what is your standard for a man?
Like, what are you looking for?
How do you filter them?
Honestly, now it's gone so the bar has been set so low, but I um I just want somebody that like ultimately, I was thinking about this question.
I was like, ultimately, I think the main thing I want is somebody that will be there for me for whatever.
So, like, if I am in trouble and I call them, I want them to be able to come to me.
That's that's the only thing you ask for.
That's literally it.
Do you have a type, by the way?
Like, is there a type?
Um, yeah, I do.
What's your type?
I like tall guys that are brunette with beards.
He said, I don't know.
You uh eye color?
Did you say eye color?
No, I like light eyes, but eye color doesn't really matter at all.
What's up?
I am not.
I have to work early in the morning, and it's 11 o'clock.
She does have to work early.
I have to work at 8 a.m.
I am exhausted.
Yo, we can't hear you if you're not talking.
I'm trying to talk to you.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
I'm just, I need to go home.
I need to sleep.
Okay, do you want to leave?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm heard right.
I have to go.
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
We're going to wrap up pretty soon, but if you got to go.
Hi.
Don't.
Bye, ladies.
Hi.
Hi, it was nice to meet you guys.
Nice to meet you.
Can't stay.
I mean, I was going to wrap up probably within about, try to get through the soup chats and wrap, but yeah.
Anyways, what were you talking about?
We were talking about.
Standards and man.
Oh, your type.
So, tall, brunette, beard.
Yeah.
What's up, Jane?
How are you doing?
You doing good?
Do you hate me?
After me, kind of, you know.
I mean, this whole chat has been a little more conservative than I'm used to.
Well, I wouldn't say I'm conservative.
Okay, all right.
But, okay, let's see.
We have, did we do this one?
I'm sorry, guys.
I lost my place in the super chats.
Did we do that, Brian?
Yeah.
I was going to highlight this one.
Oh, Gives error.
Try 70.
That's weird.
You should be able to do 69, though.
You have to, like, you have to type it in in the super chat thing, but all right.
Frankie Kay, $20 super chat.
Jade, you have the right to do what you want when dating.
All you have to realize is that your actions have consequences.
Move to a different town.
Find your Chad.
Don't talk about your past or just lower your standards.
He is wrong.
Well, like, he, I don't know who that is.
Frankie's typically a male name.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Okay.
I'm not familiar.
Please apologize to Frankie for misgendering him.
I'm sorry that I'm misgendering.
How dare you?
Yeah, I think she should hire her standards and lower them.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
We have.
I'm not going to not talk about my past, though, to whoever I'm going to be with.
I'm not going to be, I'm not going to hold back any of your honesty.
I agree with that because some guys recommend to women who maybe do have a past, don't tell the guy.
And I think, one, that's you should be honest in relationships and not lie.
And if it comes out that you like, it's just bad.
It's better to just be upfront with it.
And if a guy accepts it, perfect.
If he doesn't, then it wasn't meant to be, anyways.
So, all right.
So we have Mike Davis, $10 Super Chat.
Women don't go to therapy to self-improve.
They go when men are fed up of listening to their shit.
So they find another gold digging 304 to hear their beating while they collect a check.
I want to say something real quick.
Go ahead.
Because I'm the one who added that.
Just because I like clap back for her, I do understand that not everybody takes therapy for the right reason.
Some women take therapy just to say, hey, you know what?
I took it, even though they're not doing the self-work.
So I do agree with him to a certain extent.
And some women have been dogged out so much by a man that they finally heal because nobody wants them.
So I agree.
And therapy is kind of like, I don't know.
I always tell my therapists, I'm like, I feel like I just complain to her, but I feel like it helps me in the fact that I get it all out and I don't leak on the people I love, like my sisters and stuff.
I think you should share that stuff with the people you love because that's why they're not.
I do, but you know, there's only so much someone can handle after you've heat.
Before it's trauma-dumping.
Yeah, yeah.
Gus, $10 Super Chat.
50% of marriages end in divorce goes to 90 if she's college educated.
80% of women initiate it.
Number one reason is finances, especially if she gets a pay raise.
Man slash women cheat at the same rates.
That's true.
I agree.
All right, we have Beaten Cheeks.
Wait, can I say something though?
Oh, I honestly feel like women cheat more.
I think that we can.
I agree with that.
I really agree with that.
Let me say why.
Because women, we get approached so much, and there's a lot of women.
I've been a bartender.
Women will be flirting with guys and their boyfriend went to the bathroom or something.
Or they'll go, oh, it doesn't count as cheating.
If you're grabbing somebody else's hand, calling them cute names, pet names, you're emotionally cheating.
It's still cheating.
A lot of women do that.
I think women.
I think women have more temptation because they have more options.
Even when they're in a relationship, just, I mean, I think you should discuss whether it's cheating for both of you in the relationship to understand what that's cheating or not.
Guys, as good as that, they also flirt with other girls, co-workers, assistants, and stuff like that.
So do women.
They talk about work husbands all the time, baby.
Yeah, and like you can count it as cheating.
You can count it as not cheating.
It depends what you define as in your relationship.
Okay.
All right, we have Beaten Cheeks here with the big $50 super chat here.
Yeah, great name.
Great name.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
This panel is crazy.
Also, what up, sir?
I don't have social media.
And sir, and I don't have social media and worth well over six figures.
Is that a deal breaker asking for a friend?
Are you hitting on me?
That's a green flag, though.
Yeah.
I like it when a girl doesn't have social media.
I agree.
That's good.
It's good.
It's not a deal breaker if she does, but it's like, oh, that's cool.
But who's he talking to?
That's what.
Sir?
Sir?
Talking to you?
You crazy?
I think he's hanging on me.
Sir.
Yeah, he's probably talking to you.
Beat in cheeks, too.
All right.
Sus.
Okay, Frank.
Frank, how do I pronounce your name, Frank?
Hey, good to see you back, man.
I think we missed you the past couple shows.
Thank you for the $25 Super Chat, man.
Really appreciate it.
Hey, Brian Frank here.
Big Frank.
Glad to see you back at it the new year.
You do very important work.
I salute you, sir.
Amen.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Beaten Cheeks, $20 Super Chat.
How do the females feel about men going to South America for women that are submissive, feminine, peaceful, and healthy, aka not overweight, asking for a friend?
If you want to go anywhere you want.
Yeah, you do you.
I agree.
Passport bros.
Passport bros.
Passport bros, wait a minute.
You're going to get loved.
Yeah.
A lot of guys are going overseas for women.
They're actually having success rates.
Have you been hearing that?
That's crazy.
For sure.
For sure.
Mike Davis, $10 Super Chat.
Don't know much about the conflict, but after listening to Ukraine, I'm officially pro-Russia.
That's a rad flag.
McDonald's pulled out.
I might have to guess.
Every woman I've dated, save the one, cheated on me.
It's the options.
I'm not my namesake.
Whoa, that was our first TTS, boys.
First TTS.
Thank you, man.
We'll pull that back up when we get to the super chat.
You kind of cock blocked Mike Davis's super chat, but so did you want to clap back?
Well, he's supporting the terrorist country who is killing a lot of people right now.
I don't know what is wrong with your values.
I like her attitude.
So sassy.
Do you want to say anything to Mike Davis?
Do you want to say anything to him?
No, I don't just sad.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Dave on Jackson, $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
The fact that you feel the need to not date in 2023 and seek therapy, which I applaud, is literally direct proof that it's not healthy for your psyche to be a meat collector.
Jade?
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
Yo, Ragu Man, $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Mango King wants my leftovers.
You need a reality check, my friend.
Ladies, value yourself.
Body count matters.
Mango King, $50 Super Chat.
Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
200 is vastly above 30.
That's why I asked for the basis that quantifies as high count.
When meeting someone, you do ask questions, but it is not an interview.
So body count takes the backstage to her personality.
I'm just weird and never cheated.
But here's the thing: you said that body count doesn't matter.
And look, that's your stance.
That's fine.
But if body count doesn't matter, if it's an astronomical number, certainly it shouldn't matter then, right?
Obviously, there's a spectrum to it.
200 is an extreme example, but from zero to 200, as you start getting further and further along that, you start raising more and more eyebrows, I guess.
So, yeah, go ahead, close that.
It's just super noisy for some reason.
I don't know if you guys can hear the music in the background.
Oh, God.
Okay.
So, yeah, I don't know if we really got to his.
He was asking what is a high body count in his previous super chat.
I think it depends on the age of the girl, too.
Age, age.
Because if she's like 40 and has like 30 bodies, I mean, yeah, but if you're like 18, 19, your body count's real high.
Like, if you can't count both hands, that's too much.
That's way too much.
Yeah.
I mean, we've had some 19-year-old girls on the show.
I think it's I don't know she didn't want to say it, but like she said it on previous episodes, guys.
Chat, should I?
She's already said it like two times.
Then sign it.
Should I say it?
30 or 40.
Chats.
If it's on camera already, it's already on camera.
I mean, whatever.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, I think she's 19.
It's 30 plus, right?
Oh, shit.
So, I mean, like, that's a lot.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
I mean, look, people are going to move how they're going to move.
But, yeah.
So you're right.
That's a good point.
Age is a factor.
You know, 10 at 30.
Yeah, I see.
That's reasonable.
Not the worst.
10 at 18.
Yeah.
A little bit of an eyebrow raise.
All right.
Beaten cheeks $50 soup chat.
Dude, thank you so much, man, for the big.
Oh, I don't know where I was going with that.
No, Brian, I'm not hitting on you.
I was being respectful to you, my lord.
No more, sir.
Oh.
I actually prefer your Royal Highness.
Your Majesty works too.
Get it right.
All right.
We have, dude, you guys are killing with the soup chats.
Thank you guys so much.
Yo, Mr. Scumbag, $70 Soup Chat.
Every woman I've dated, save for one, cheated on me.
It's the options.
I'm not my namesake.
Okay.
Can I command?
Sure.
You're the common denominator in all of your relationships.
So you might think about that.
I mean, when it comes to cheating, though, like I think that's on the person who's cheating.
Yeah, it's on both of partners.
Something is lacking the relationship.
Then break up.
Yeah, I don't think cheating is.
No, no, I agree, but like something as you both know that.
You both know something is lacking.
You know what I mean?
I'm talking about it in a sense.
Because if you think about it, if your man is constantly asking you for sex, constantly, constantly, constantly, he cheats or whatever, you knew that.
So when he cheats, it's kind of your fault now.
It's not like the fault part is more like you ignored something.
Both of you.
But I wouldn't blame it solely on him, though, because at the end of the day, that is kind of mean, though.
Nobody cheating.
Like, you can internalize that and blame yourself and be all hurt about that.
When in all reality, that's that person's wrongdoing.
All they had to do is be loyal or let you know, hey, you know what?
I don't want to be with you.
Simple.
The adult, to be honest.
Not hurt nobody.
Yep.
Yeah.
But in the example you gave where the guy is cheating on the woman, it's usually typically guys that are up on their girl and the girl's like not as sexual.
So the guy's like, but it's interesting that, and I think there's like been some videos on this, that women push so hard for exclusivity and commitment.
And when they get it, and the guy's like, well, I can only have sex with you, but they're not meeting them in terms, like they're not meeting their sexual needs.
I guess, yeah, is it a surprise that the guy cheats?
I think if you're not happy with that situation, you should break up.
I don't think you should cheat, but you do raise a good point.
But in his case, though, he's getting cheated on by the women.
So unless he's not set bigger boundaries too as well.
Like once you see disrespect or promiscuous activity, just bounce it.
Yep, absolutely.
And I think that is the last super chat, guys.
If you want to get your last-minute super chats in, get them in quick.
We're going to wrap up here in a couple minutes.
Oh, Eric, can you pull up the Twitch?
I need to shout out the Twitch homies.
All right.
Oh, okay.
So we have.
Scroll down just a bit.
Okay.
Mr. Scumbag.
Oh, we got him.
Fen Corp.
Thank you for the follow.
Fen Corp with the cheers.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Scroll all the way up.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
So.
Oh, I mean, it's fine.
Jade.
Yeah.
Is there something dating related that you wanted to get off your chest?
I asked her that.
She said the gentleman thing.
I want to let everyone go around on this.
No, I just feel like I am going, or I'm taking this year to myself because I do know that I'm doing something wrong.
And I kind of just want to heal and like, like I said, get better standards and just to like really take the year to learn more about myself and that I'm always a work in progress.
I don't ever expect to.
Are you did you just come to that realization tonight on the show?
Or okay.
No, I wanted it for probably I deleted all my dating apps in like September and that's when I kind of was like, okay, I think I promised myself I will never ever get another dating app ever again.
And I was like, okay, I think if I'm gonna find somebody that I want to be there for me, like how I like how I want, then yeah, then I'm gonna have to re go back to the drawing board.
Okay.
And you haven't, you've been off the dating apps.
You haven't.
Right.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
Just frustration.
2023, ladies, can we just like have higher standards?
Like love ourselves, respect ourselves, stop doing OF, stop opening up your legs to people.
Like actually give to somebody.
If you want reciprocated energy, you want a king, act like a queen, like wholeheartedly so that that way us women who want love and all that, it can come back around because this hookup culture, it's destroying the world, dude.
Yes.
That's awesome.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, cool.
We're going to wrap up there, guys.
So, guys, we're going to be live.
We're getting off of a Tuesday, Thursday schedule.
We're going to be switching to Sunday, Tuesday.
So we will be live this Sunday.
Tay will, she's sticking around for a second show.
She's going to be there on Sunday.
Guys, the panel is going to be crazy on Sunday.
We have some very interesting, spicy return people coming on the show.
So Tay's going to kill it.
It's going to be a great show, guys.
And yeah, let me see.
Are we good on the super chats, Eric?
All right, sweet.
All right, guys.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thanks to everyone who super chatted.
You guys killed it.
Thank you so much tonight, guys.
Really appreciate the support.
Finally breaking even.
So really appreciate it, guys.
We've been in the red.
You know, we spent $70,000 on this podcast.
So thanks to our chat mods.
Zach, who's the other guys?
We've got okay, Zach.
I don't know if you're still in here.
Thanks to Eric, top producer.
Yo, we got Carson.
He's kind of a new team member.
Thank you to the panel.
Thank you guys for coming.
You guys, this was, I think this was one of my favorite panels.
I liked it.
I really did.
I really liked this panel.
It was great.
I think, unfortunately, I would have liked to have a girl that maybe pushed back on YouTube a little bit.
Me and her, I like you.
You fire.
Yeah, no, yeah, it was great.
So definitely one of my favorite panels.
And guys, so we will be live Sunday.
Again, switching to a Sunday, Tuesday schedule, 7 p.m. Pacific.
And yeah, be sure to tune into the Sunday show, guys.