Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #43

Feb. 5, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #43

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	Oh, I fucked that up.
	Hey, guys, I properly fucked up the intro there, but it's okay.
	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California, every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	I am your host, Brian Atlas.
	Kiki's somewhere around here.
	I don't know.
	A few quick announcements before the show begins.
	Guys, this is our last show of the year.
	We will resume again in early January.
	I think the first, maybe, yeah, first week of January.
	This channel is viewer supported.
	Guys, make nearly nothing from ad revenue.
	So please consider sending a super chat.
	Throughout the show, I will read super chats $10 and up.
	Eric, can you pull up the super chat thing?
	Scuffed.
	Okay.
	Guys, in the chat, hit that show your support for whatever button.
	So leave a super chat.
	You can do it all the way from $1 all the way to $10.
	But $10 and up to be read, Eric, go ahead, click it.
	Yeah, so you can super chat.
	Sorry, guys, we totally scuffed the intro there.
	We're doing it live.
	Okay.
	We also got channel memberships, Patreon, merch.
	See the links below.
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	You can see all the super chat and membership gifting triggers in the description.
	Guys, we're also streaming the Twitch right now, twitch.tv slash whatever.
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	Pull up another tab.
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	Drop us a follow in the Prime Sub.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to a Twitch account.
	And every month you can sub totally free on Twitch.
	Takes one minute to set up.
	Quick, free, easy way to support the show.
	Guys, also, please support my non-profit organization, the American Network Against Labia Plasty.
	Or anal for short.
	We empower women who may feel self-conscious or insecure about their labia, if it's large.
	It's a grassroots movement.
	You know, there's innies and outies and stuff.
	Really, it's the most pressing issue of our time.
	You know, I want to live in a world where women do not feel obliged to undergo dangerous and unnecessary surgery.
	You know, Jason, I think no man or woman for that, no woman or man for that matter should be shamed for the way they were born.
	Amen, Brian.
	Amen.
	Okay.
	If you need any convincing to knock onto the knife, DM me at whatever on Instagram.
	Can we get some hashtag allabia matter in the chat?
	And guys, if you want to be on the show or help with the show, DM at whatever on Instagram, chat mods, timestamp, studio hand, town coordinator, et cetera.
	Anyways, without further ado, after that thoroughly scuffed introduction, my bad guys, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
	Go ahead.
	Hi guys, my name is Princess April.
	I am 45 years old and I have multiple occupations.
	Stop the cap!
	You're 45?
	Yeah, I'm on the news for being 44 last year.
	You're actually 45?
	Yes, this year.
	She's telling the truth.
	Wait, you're telling the truth?
	Yeah.
	A lot of news on her.
	Really?
	She's a little bit more fun.
	Can you guys play like the can you guys like screenplay?
	We'll take your word for it.
	Okay, cool.
	Just look a 44-year-old TikToker.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, take it as a compliment then that I'm questioning that you're 44.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Lucy Mochi.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I'm studying biology right now, and I'm also a full-time OnlyFans creator.
	I'm Trixie.
	I'm 26.
	I am a full-time content creator and Twitch streamer.
	And that's all I do.
	Hi, guys.
	My name is Uu Tofu.
	I am 44 years old.
	I am a full-time content creator, but I am also a professional astrologer and Twitch streamer and cosplay.
	I'm a lot of things.
	Thank you.
	Hello.
	Hi, I'm Numi.
	I go by Numi R.
	I am 34 years old and full-time content creator.
	Hi, everyone.
	My name is Tomi A. Tang.
	I'm in college right now for journalism.
	I used to be a professional public radio reporter and I'm currently a full-time OnlyFans creator.
	Thanks for inviting me on the show.
	Thank you for coming.
	Of course.
	Hi, everyone.
	My name is Rocket Reina.
	I'm 55 and I'm a full-time OnlyFans content creator.
	Hi, I'm Jasmine T. I'm 25.
	I studied computational linguistics when I was in college and I take pics of my holes for a living.
	But I am also a communal girlfriend on the side.
	A communal girlfriend.
	Yeah, and everyone's girlfriend.
	Okay.
	What is a communal girlfriend?
	You know, I'm just for the streets, you know?
	Okay.
	All right.
	So hold on.
	She belongs to the streets.
	Okay.
	What's up, chat?
	I'm Jason.
	I'm 32, and I'm a business owner.
	Tell them who you are in the chat, though, because they might not know.
	I am Krispy Kim.
	He's Krispy Kim in the chat.
	And fuck y'all for talking shit last time.
	On you?
	Yes, some of you.
	Can we get some W's in the chat for Krispy Kim?
	Wait, okay, so Rocket Reina.
	Yes.
	You're 55.
	You're not 55.
	Why?
	Come on, you're not 55.
	No, I am.
	You're 55.
	Why do you think she's not driving?
	She doesn't look 55.
	Have you heard of the term Asian don't raisin?
	Yeah.
	I've heard of it.
	I don't like raisins, though.
	A lot of us started being friends because we bonded over being an old fans creator and being like older women in the industry.
	Okay.
	So you're 55.
	Yes.
	Will you show me your driver's license after the show?
	Sure, go ahead.
	So you're not capping?
	No, I'm not capping.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	She got a good skincare routine.
	I know.
	Is it true, Jason?
	Is it true?
	What, that Asians don't raise it?
	I bet your mom's in MILF.
	I mean, you don't look 55 at all, though.
	Oh, fuck.
	It's hard to believe.
	Thank you.
	I really appreciate that.
	Okay, so we're going to go around the table once more.
	Please.
	Oh, by the way, guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
	Guys, show them some love.
	Give them a follow.
	They have their sneaky links.
	That's not the term.
	I butchered that.
	They have their links for their other things through their Instagrams.
	So guys, current relationship status, your longest relationship, and are you currently on any dating apps?
	Go ahead.
	I am single.
	I have an ex-husband.
	What was the rest of your question?
	Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	Oh, I am not on any dating apps.
	I have two kids to take care of.
	Okay.
	I'm so busy.
	And you said you had an ex-husband?
	Yeah.
	Was that your longest relationship?
	I guess, yes.
	How long were you guys married or together?
	I would say five years.
	Five years?
	Okay.
	And you said you had two kids?
	Yeah.
	Both from the same guy?
	Yes.
	Separate guy.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Go ahead.
	I'm also single.
	My friends are my co-stars, though, so there's that.
	And my longest relationship was probably for like a month in middle school, and I'm not on any dating apps.
	Wait, you said your friends are your co-stars?
	Yeah, they're my co-stars.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And do you do BC content?
	Wait, was it BG?
	Boy girl.
	I do boygirl control.
	BC.
	Boy Girl.
	Birth control.
	I am on birth control space.
	Yes.
	IUD, what you got?
	No, but you do BG.
	That's it.
	I do BG, BBG, BGG, BGG.
	GGG.
	Okay.
	Oh, or GG.
	Whatever.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	She does it all.
	Okay.
	Multifaceted woman.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So is there a regular guy that you're working with when it comes to making content?
	Yeah, Peter.
	He's a good friend.
	He's actually married, but he's my assistant.
	His wife doesn't mind.
	Wait, hold on.
	Just to be clear, so the guy that you're having sex with on camera is married and he's your assistant, but he's also sleeping with you.
	Yeah, for work.
	For work, for work, of course.
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay.
	And you guys are just friends?
	Like, there's no, it's just business space.
	It's pretty professional.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Go ahead.
	I got out of a relationship about almost two years ago, and that was my longest relationship was seven years.
	So I would say that I'm emotionally unavailable.
	I don't want to date around anymore.
	I feel like, because I grew up with my ex from like 16 years old up until recent, kind of just staying away from dating, and I'm not on any dating apps.
	So if you see any that look like me, that's not me.
	And don't get catfished in 2022, 2023.
	Thank you.
	I'm currently single.
	My longest relationship is seven years, and I am not on any Denny apps.
	Again, if you see my face, it is not me.
	I am too awkward to be on dating apps.
	Thank you.
	What was the question?
	I forgot.
	Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	Okay, I'm single.
	And the longest relationship I've had was seven years.
	And I am not on any dating sites.
	So I'm actually polyamorous.
	And very recently, I was in two committed relationships separately with two people who are not dating each other and both are lesbians.
	But I recently had to end one of my relationships.
	So currently I'm with one person and I have been with that person on and off for about four years.
	My longest relationship.
	Okay.
	Sounds complicated.
	I'm not on any dating apps.
	It is a little complicated, yeah.
	Okay.
	Rocket Raina.
	I'm really nervous, I'm not gonna lie.
	Oh, don't even trip, you're fine.
	Wait, what was the first question?
	Yeah, I can repeat it.
	So, your current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	I am single.
	Hit me up, boys.
	DMs are open.
	DMs are open.
	Longest relationship was.
	I was married for 25 years or about.
	And then, no, I'm not on any dating apps right now.
	Do you have kids?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	Any of them?
	Any of the girls at the table?
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, got it.
	All right.
	So I'm actually in an open relationship.
	I really did mean it when I am a communal girlfriend.
	So I am everyone's girlfriend in theory.
	Let's see.
	My longest relationship, so we, me and my partner, we've been in a relationship for four years and open for two.
	And I am on Tinder, but I am not sure if I got banned on there, so I will have to double check.
	You're like shadow banned or something.
	I might be shadow banned.
	You're not getting any more matches.
	It's started to dwindle.
	I'm still dead on there.
	Okay, so you're the communal girlfriend.
	So you said, but you do have, you're in an open relationship, you said?
	Yeah.
	How long has that been going on?
	Two years.
	Two years.
	Okay.
	And so, but you see other people.
	Yeah.
	Is it like, do you share?
	Yeah, I love sharing, and he loves like sharing as well.
	Okay, so you guys sharing.
	Do you threesomes or what?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Foursomes?
	Even more.
	More.
	Okay.
	What's the word for nine?
	That is a good question.
	That's an order.
	That's a party.
	It's a party.
	It's a really big slumber party.
	Chat, what is the nine sum?
	Nine sums.
	An octos?
	No.
	What would the nines?
	No, that's eight.
	Can any smart chat people tell us what it is?
	Octosum plus.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	And is it, do you ever see other guys, though?
	Yeah, I do.
	Okay, so you see other guys too.
	Okay.
	Now, was this something that you both kind of mutually ended up on, or was it broached by you, or did he want to open it up?
	How did that play out?
	He actually brought it up to me, and I, before I met him, I was for the streets also.
	So when he brought up that idea, I was like, oh, I'm going straight back home.
	Okay, let's do it.
	And it's like, as long as you have healthy communication, it works out.
	Has there ever been any issues with jealousy?
	At first, yeah.
	For you or for him?
	Or both?
	Well, it goes both ways because it's my first open relationship.
	So it took a while to get used to it, like used to sharing.
	But that's kind of how I found out.
	Oh, I actually don't mind it.
	Like, I think it's kind of attractive that other girls find my man attractive.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Jason, what about you?
	What was the question?
	It was.
	Tell us about your OnlyFans.
	Your current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	I'm currently single.
	My longest relationship was three years, and I'm on bumble, hinge, Tinder.
	Okay, rock and roll.
	Rock and roll.
	So wait, all of you are banned on dating apps.
	Is that correct?
	I'm not banned.
	I just don't go on it.
	I don't personally believe in dating apps.
	You don't personally believe in dating apps.
	Why is that?
	I think I like to meet a person in person and just to view them.
	Like, I don't know.
	I feel like texting someone can be so dry sometimes and so hard to communicate properly.
	And I would rather see the emotions on their face to get to know them better.
	And I'm honestly a super bad texter, so I would go.
	I ghost very easily.
	You ghost.
	I do.
	Okay.
	Not because they're boring, but just because I don't, I just put down my phone and I forget to text back.
	I see.
	And I mean, according to you, you're also currently emotionally unavailable, so.
	Yeah.
	I don't, I don't know.
	Dating is just not fun anymore.
	Okay, but why did the rest of you get banned on dating apps?
	Is it because you're like putting your Cash App, your Venmo, your OnlyFans link in there?
	She's laughing.
	It was like, yeah, it's because I had my shit.
	Actually, I've never downloaded any.
	Like, I just never went on there.
	Really?
	Never.
	Come on.
	Never.
	Never.
	Wow.
	You can check my purchase history on the app store.
	Okay, after the show, I want to go through.
	I mean, when I was younger, I went to like, when I was younger, like, I looked at it and like, I see, I made my account.
	But then I had a friend next to me.
	I went to the restroom and she swiped right on everything.
	I mean, you girls all have Instagram, right?
	Yes.
	I mean, then y'all got dating apps then, technically.
	Yeah.
	Instagram's dating app.
	I guess it's yes then.
	We do have dating apps.
	We also gotta.
	I got banned from Tinder for advertising my OnlyFans.
	I primarily use Tinder and FetLive to promote my OnlyFans.
	That was the only reason I used it.
	Got banned.
	Okay.
	And so what specifically did you have in your Tinder?
	Was it just like the link to your OnlyFans?
	I just made my bio as real as possible, like just like a normal girl, but it was like I had my OnlyFans in my bio and I had a link to my like my Instagram that has my OnlyFans link in it.
	Okay.
	Wait, so hold on.
	You linked to your Instagram.
	Yeah.
	But my Instagram has my OnlyFans in it.
	Yeah, she got reported for sure.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	Because I figured like if you just if you're just because I see a lot of people on the database.
	I would swipe right on like everybody, especially like men over 40.
	And I'm sure that's a red flag to Tinder.
	Yeah, what about you guys?
	For me, like I would go on there and try to get some dick and then my fans will see it and be like, that's a catfish.
	For sure.
	Like there's no way she's actually like that.
	So they report me and get banned.
	You think you got banned because people thought you were catfishing?
	No, I had fans messaging me being like, oh, someone was catfishing you, I banned them.
	And I was like, thanks, that was me.
	Oh, so they.
	So you never put any links in your bio on Tinder?
	I didn't.
	It was known for filming.
	So people thought, okay, they thought you were catfishing.
	Nope.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	What about you?
	It was the same thing.
	I just had some people tell me guys I've dated, but they would also report me for catfishing as well.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Gotcha.
	Gotcha.
	Anyone else over here?
	Dating apps?
	Why are you banned?
	Oh, yeah.
	It was the same for me.
	I mean, even before I started OF, people were using my photos to catfish.
	And, you know, when I got more popular, people were like, oh, hey, this girl, she must be fake.
	Like, hot girls on Tinder?
	No.
	Yeah.
	Reported straight away.
	Interesting.
	Sweet, sweet.
	Okay, let me get a couple super chats and then we'll get into the show.
	We got Candace M. Hey, good to see you, Candace.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	W Brian, W chat.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys, can we also get some W's in the chat for Candace?
	She's been a really killer chat mod, so appreciate your support, Candace.
	We have the big $100 soup chat from Tay Hates Everything.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Been watching for a while, never watched live.
	Just wanted to pull up and say, what's up?
	P.S.
	We need a Kiko vs. Tara round two in 2023.
	You know what's crazy is I had booked Kiko and Tara for Tuesday's show, but they both flaked.
	So it would have been such an awesome show, but unfortunately, yeah, they bailed.
	And then I see these two other chats from Dr. Durden and Helen coming in here.
	Give us just a second, guys, while StreamYard picks these up.
	But while we do that, we have, let's see, the American Network Against Labia Place D. Hashtag All Labia Matter, of course.
	And then we have Robert Lewandowski's wife.
	What the fuck are you doing with these OF304s?
	It's just part of the job.
	It's part of the job, my man.
	Apparently, people tell me I look like this soccer player called Robert Lewandowski.
	So his wife is in the chat questioning why I'm here with you guys.
	Okay, so pull up, Dr. Durden.
	Okay, Dr. Durden, these girls remind me of my dear Marla Singer.
	I could hear them saying, I want, oh, God.
	I want to have your abortion.
	Okay.
	You could hear them, like all the girls at the table, saying that they would want to have your okay, Dr. Durden.
	That's Tyler Durden from the hit 1999.
	Is it 1999 film Fight Club?
	Yeah, he's reincarnated somehow in the chat somehow.
	I don't know.
	And then we have Helen here.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Hey, Helen.
	Oh, my God.
	I believe I miss you that you're here.
	Please tell them Halo Coco says, I love you guys.
	She's a hot milk too.
	I wonder if I DM'd her also.
	Maybe it's possible.
	Probably did.
	We'll run it back and we'll definitely get another show.
	All right.
	Well, we have two more chats coming in.
	Here, I'll just grab him.
	Is it in StreamYard yet?
	Sorry, guys.
	The StreamYard, for some reason, it takes a while to get caught up.
	Rola Tomasi, are you still in the chat, my friend?
	We saw you comment before the show went live.
	But did they come up yet, Eric?
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	Hold on.
	We'll pull them up as soon as they come up.
	But yeah, by the way, guys, actually, just pull it over to Twitch really quick.
	Oops.
	Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever, give us a follow.
	And if you have an available Prime sub, drop it.
	If you have Amazon Prime, basically you can link it up to, what's it called?
	You can link it up.
	Sorry, fuck.
	I fucked it up.
	Twitch.
	I'm writing it in the chat right now.
	It's twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Fuck, I'm scuffing this.
	Yeah, guys, we'll shout you guys out if you drop us a follow and drop us a Prime sub.
	Eric, can you pull up the super chats, please?
	All right, Common CommonRider808.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man, supporting April.
	Thank you.
	Mwad, love you, baby.
	Can you pull up the next one?
	And then we have Helen with the this is not Halo Coco.
	I'm a fan, and my name is not Helen.
	Okay.
	Good to know.
	Well, there you go.
	There you go.
	Eric, can you pull up?
	I have one of the girls' Twitters pulled up because I had a question on this.
	Can you pull up Princess April's Twitter?
	It's really not safe for work.
	Don't worry, we don't.
	We've got it.
	Go ahead, Eric.
	So it's just your profile.
	I had a question.
	So it says you're a financial dominatrix.
	$69 initial.
	So what is what is, for those who don't know in the chat, what is financial domination?
	So you basically are DOM and then they pay $69 to even talk to you on Twitter.
	Okay, but I assume you continue to DOM them.
	So how does that play out?
	Sometimes you just give them fun tasks.
	But you just have to participate to know.
	So how would you FinDom somebody?
	Finom somebody?
	FinDom?
	Financial domination.
	So I go by Princess April, so like my cash is being Bratty.
	And there are other creators or people in the FinDom community that are called goddess mistresses and etc.
	So the way that I give orders are in Bratty ways.
	Okay.
	Does anybody else here do FinDom?
	I've tried, but I feel like I can't be mean enough.
	You have to be mean to do FinDom?
	It's not really me, but necessarily someone, if there's someone who's looking for a FinDom, they want you to take charge, essentially, right, with the conversation or with the tasks that they have to do.
	One guy gave me a proposition, was like, I'll let you drain out all of the money in my PayPal account, but can I send you the contact informations of my family, my bosses, and like if I don't listen to you, can you like threaten me that you would like email my boss, my family, my wife, and my kids that you are my financial DOM.
	And it was good.
	He had like a few thousand dollars in his PayPal, but in the end I just couldn't do it.
	I just can't.
	It didn't feel right to me.
	Okay.
	I love doing that.
	You love doing that.
	On my page, not my page, my main website, on the very bottom it says buy me boba.
	I had one person buy me 500 bobas on PayPal.
	Okay.
	That was pretty cool.
	500 bobas.
	Yeah, that's 2,500.
	It was a $5 boba.
	Okay, they didn't actually get 500 boba cups.
	But you didn't actually get the 500 bobas.
	It's just towards the boba, so I had a lot of bobas.
	I just get it so often.
	Okay.
	It's just a fun.
	Okay, so let's say Jason here contacts you.
	He pays you the $69 upfront fee, and he's like, Princess April.
	FinDom me.
	what's the next step they will they have to give me um what do you call it They have to worship me.
	I usually ask for worship.
	Worship.
	Yeah, it's like a daily one.
	But they had to like pay to speak to me.
	And then we'll just like, it's also like a two-way street as well.
	Like whatever is their limit and mine, we'll talk about that.
	And we'll just do fun things.
	So are you guys talking?
	Are you talking like video chat?
	Like how does this, how are you guys communicating all this stuff?
	It's usually, well, I'm like a FinDom on Twitter.
	So you're literally tweeting tasks to guys.
	Yeah, sometimes it could be posted publicly and it's like a public humiliation task because I'm a princess.
	Wow.
	There's like different mediums with that.
	You can do like video comments, you can do straight up texting.
	You can just do like DMs on like Discord or Skype.
	It doesn't have to be like in person.
	Have you not heard of FinDom?
	No, I have not.
	Financial DOM?
	No.
	I have no idea what that is.
	It's a thing.
	It's definitely a thing.
	What was my question something about?
	Have you ever done FinDom like with an actual person?
	In person?
	In person.
	I used to actually, yeah, on my main Twitter, there's a I think there was a picture of me jumping on somebody with another I think she was a goddess.
	Yeah, it was it was goddess and me, we were just jumping on a guy's stomach and he totally enjoyed it.
	Okay, so then it's that's even going a bit beyond Findom to like BDSM territory.
	It could be anything as as long as it's like as long as we like don't go further than our boundaries and we're okay.
	Okay.
	Did you Findom your ex-husband?
	No.
	Oh okay.
	I respected him.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it.
	So okay The Findom thing is really interesting.
	We'll maybe touch back on that a bit later on.
	So you guys are all Asian OnlyFans creators, right?
	Are you guys like in a Telegram group?
	Are you guys in a big network and you kind of share best practices, tips and tricks?
	Like are there could like a white girl get in there or is it like off limits?
	Oh speaking of groups it's not just Asian.
	We're definitely a part of a huge group.
	But there is an Asian one right?
	Like just an Asian OnlyFans like network or group?
	I think initially yes, but we did add like people of other ethnicities.
	Oh okay.
	Like we kept going on trips and we kept introducing it's like more it's it wasn't meant to be an Asian group.
	Like it wasn't meant to be an Asian group.
	It was just meant to be like a safe space where like we actually know each other, we're friends, so we like talk about our day-to-day like events.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Yeah, well there's definitely like white girls and like brown girls in there.
	It's not just Asian.
	Okay.
	Not that there'd be anything wrong with that.
	I was just curious like how big how big is the group?
	How many people are in it?
	The dominantly Asian one?
	Or just the Telegram group in general?
	Yeah.
	Ours, I think it has, what, 40 girls right now?
	40 girls.
	And you guys kind of just like share like, here's what's working, here's what's not.
	Stuff like that.
	I think it's important just because a lot of social media websites are not transparent about their algorithm practices and like what is going to suppress us and what's not going to suppress us, which is like very important when it comes to like marginalized groups such as sex workers.
	Yeah, it's also just a great way to stay in touch because social media is so unreliable.
	I mean at any moment like most of us like risk getting banned.
	So I agree, especially with like most social media not being very SW friendly.
	Like we constantly get banned all the time.
	So it's nice to have something more concrete to contact each other with.
	Do you guys get banned pretty frequently on like Instagram for example or?
	Oh yeah.
	I eat TikTok bands for breakfast.
	You eat TikTok bands for breakfast?
	Yes, it is literally a ritual at this point.
	I feel like for people who just kind of enter our field and they're like, oh my god, like when TikTok got banned, I'm like, you made it.
	You're with us now.
	What is something like, because I mean, some fairly risque stuff seems okay on TikTok.
	So what gets you banned on TikTok?
	Probably a major reason we get banned is because we get mass reported.
	Mass reported?
	Yeah, by mostly by people that don't like what we're doing.
	you don't think it's like the near nudity type stuff like the revealing stuff is i used to do drugs I still do, but I used to too.
	Oops, I accidentally...
	My bad.
	Totally unbelievable.
	I accidentally clicked one of the things on my stream deck.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	You were saying about the banning.
	I'm sure there's more than one reason, but yes, a major reason is that we get mass reported.
	I mean that's pretty verifiable.
	So many people like have, I mean there's evidence that that happens.
	So they don't give you guys a reason at all?
	On TikTok, sometimes no.
	Okay.
	Like what makes us like the things that we post, yeah, we post a little bit more like risk stuff and more like in revealing clothing, but I feel like you see that a lot on TikTok in general with normal people.
	But with that, that's okay on the platform.
	But since we are like sex workers and we like, we try not to promote our sex work on that platform, but since it's kind of linked to it, then it's an automatic mass report.
	You haven't heard the news recently about meta employees who have been reporting sex workers and then turning around and charging people to get their accounts back.
	I mean, that's a scam if I've ever heard one.
	That's a lot.
	It's like...
	That's awesome.
	I'm kidding.
	Wait.
	Well, Kitty Lixo, who's on the show a couple weeks ago, she does OnlyFans too.
	She was saying that one of, I think her Instagram got banned and she hooked up with someone at Facebook and she was able to get it back or whatever.
	So, but so, whoa, that's some fucking game.
	The Facebook employees are banning the OnlyFans girls and then being like, yo, I can get you back.
	That's fucking.
	That's what happens when you get Dorothy's power.
	Fucking crazy.
	That's crazy.
	No, I've heard like some girls get they're asking for like $50,000 sometimes.
	To get them unbanned on $50,000.
	Or.
	Ludicrous.
	Or.
	They want some action.
	Oh, right.
	Is that I haven't heard that personally.
	That's a fucking finesse.
	These fucking engineers at Facebook and Instagram are sus as fuck.
	Okay, that's crazy.
	I didn't hear about that.
	There's a, is that verifiable?
	Is there a news article on that?
	What I look, Instagram employees, fucking emails.
	I guess we got meta employees.
	OnlyFans chicks to try to get it in or yeah, keywords.
	Okay, got it.
	Oh, yeah, you know, I got the skills.
	All right, so I'll definitely have to check that out.
	That's pretty interesting.
	How long have you guys been doing OnlyFans?
	We'll start over here.
	Oh, let's see.
	OF specifically, two years, but I've just been basically posting my holes online for six years.
	Your holes online?
	Yeah.
	For how long?
	Six years.
	Ever since I was 19.
	Okay.
	I've been on for two years.
	Yeah, I've also been on for two years.
	Oh, since 2020 pandemic.
	I've been doing it since February of 2021.
	I started before the pandemic in 2019.
	Yeah, I started early 2021 as well.
	I started late 2020.
	So most of you kind of during the pandemic.
	There definitely seemed to have been quite a surge once the pandemic started of people getting on OnlyFans, except you.
	You're the OG pretty much.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm known as one of the OG Reddit girls.
	An OG.
	Yeah.
	What's it called?
	R slash Asian Gone Wild?
	Yeah.
	I really like it.
	I was posting on it for a while.
	Do you think it was there?
	Okay.
	He's cultured.
	He knows.
	He's exposed himself.
	I'm a man of culture.
	I'm a man of culture.
	That's cool.
	Okay.
	Do you guys have management companies running your OF or it's all you?
	It's definitely all of us.
	It's all me.
	It's all sort of social companies.
	Trust them are very predatory.
	Who?
	Oh, the companies.
	I don't really even know the names, to be honest.
	But yeah, they're very predatory.
	Okay.
	Have you guys been approached by them, but you just prefer to do it on your own?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's not fair for everyone else.
	I think it's very important to have solid interaction.
	It helps everyone in the long run.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	How much money do you guys make?
	Oh.
	Let's see.
	For me, over half a mil a year.
	A month?
	Oh, per year.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Scoot that mic just that way just a bit.
	You're good.
	A bit more.
	Keep going.
	Keep going.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Thank you.
	Half a mil a year?
	Over half a mil.
	So it definitely fluctuates because it's not very stable, but like over half a mil minimum.
	What's your best month?
	Is it like holidays or?
	I think the holidays usually pick up for me, but it's different for every creator.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	And how long have you been making that much?
	Almost since you started?
	Oh no, it's definitely a gradual build.
	When I was just selling on Reddit, I probably made like $800 a month.
	Okay.
	And then when I started my OF, it was like my first month, $15K.
	And then it gradually grew as I became more and more popular and expanded my brand.
	And yeah, it's still growing and improving.
	When you became a community girlfriend?
	Yeah, when I became a community girlfriend.
	That's when it just exploded.
	Okay, got it.
	Cool, cool.
	What about you, Rocket Reina?
	I don't know if I want to say.
	You want to give us a range?
	Nearly six figures a month.
	Nearly six figures a month.
	Okay.
	Damn, nice.
	What about you?
	It honestly fluctuates widely for me, but I would say my best month this past year, I made $50,000.
	Okay.
	What about per, you said $50,000 per month in a month?
	That was your best month.
	How much per year would you say?
	For the year?
	More than six figures, I'm assuming.
	No, not more than six figures.
	But you had the 50K a month, right?
	It was five figures, yeah.
	But like total for the year, you think it's over your total.
	I don't think it's over six figures.
	Oh, okay.
	Got it.
	So for mine, over six figures, but I don't want to give an exact number, but we'll just say if I, when I had my partner, my ex, he was able to quit his job and just, you know, stay at home and be a stay-at-home boyfriend for me and not work and do anything.
	Okay.
	So you were making enough money that your boyfriend at the time could stay home and be a stay-at-home boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	He's a great.
	He was, well, he was a great cook.
	He was.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, let's not talk about it too much.
	Okay.
	Do you think that part, I mean, when did you guys break up?
	Remind me?
	It was 2020, like when I first started my OnlyFans.
	When you first started your OnlyFans?
	Like a couple months in already.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you were making enough when you first started to retire your boyfriend at the time, basically.
	not retiring but because i was like okay you're so we were living in la and um he had to commute like from like downtown la odd way to the airport I was like, you know what?
	You're constantly commuting and your coworkers are getting a lot of stress.
	Why don't you just stay home, keep me company?
	You could go back to school if you want to.
	And just like, just, I'll take care of you.
	Okay.
	Do you think the relationship deteriorated because you were taking care of him like that?
	I think I I want to say yes because maybe I didn't make him feel like he was doing enough.
	I don't I kind of don't want to talk too much about it.
	I'm still kind of what about you?
	I think for my first year, I think it was around like 80K, but I'm expecting six figures this year for sure.
	Okay, congrats.
	Thanks.
	For me, it fluctuates month to month.
	I'd say 15 to 20,000 a month, depending.
	But throughout the whole year, I would say probably like $300,000 a year.
	All right, nice.
	My best month this year on OnlyFans was about $210,000, and I'm averaging around $160K.
	I actually pay Peter $4K a week to be my assistant.
	So, yeah.
	To be your assistant and to have sex with you.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Damn.
	God damn.
	$210K a month.
	Nice.
	And so, have you approached seven figures?
	We're at about $1.8 million for the year.
	For the year?
	$1.8 mil?
	Wow.
	Goddamn working.
	I can't even hate.
	God damn.
	What about you, Princess April?
	Quarter of a mil combined with all my occupation.
	Per month?
	Or per year?
	For the year.
	Okay, for the year.
	For your other occupations, that's right.
	Do you also sell drugs or what?
	What other vices are you involved in, April?
	I recently became Playboy, which I don't know if the chat might have respect for.
	I mean, some of the girls...
	Can you scoot the mic that way?
	Yes.
	Keep going.
	And then straighten it.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Perfect.
	Go ahead.
	I think half of the girls here are Playboy now, too, right?
	They've been on Playboy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait, show of hands.
	Who's been, is it featured on their website or how does that work?
	Centerfold, right?
	Centerfold.
	Yeah.
	And the selective.
	Jason, have you been on it?
	I can give you a referral.
	Can you get a connection for Jason?
	Yeah, they actually have mailers.
	Jason, Playboy.
	You got abs?
	You got abs, bro.
	All right, it's in the works, Jason.
	Forget those cellular stores you have.
	Jason, by the way, if you don't know, is a proprietor of numerous businesses in Las Vegas.
	But he's been looking to transition into.
	I know, I need to find a new line of work because, like, goddamn.
	He wants to.
	You have a cute smile, a nice job.
	You can totally do it.
	You can make your RCU assistant.
	Jason.
	VMs are open.
	Okay.
	Wow, that's really fantastic.
	You guys are making a lot of money.
	Okay, so just really quick, I'm curious.
	I know some of you have kind of already touched on this.
	Do all of you do content with, was it BG?
	Or, I mean, there's other types too, or are any of you strictly solo?
	Anybody strictly solo?
	I am strictly solo.
	Have you done BG before or always been solo content?
	Like content to sell.
	Like, I once posted me and my ex like doing like a clip, but then that's pretty much it from there on.
	Like after near the end of 2020, it was just all me.
	It's just torsos and dittos, multiple cameras, tripods, all of that to make my magic happen.
	Did you say tortoises?
	Torsel.
	Oh, I thought you said tortoises.
	I thought that's a crime, I think.
	Is it even pop?
	You know what?
	Let's not even think about it.
	Wait, PETA.
	Sorry, Peter.
	Getter.
	Okay, so everyone else, you do boy girl scenes.
	Okay.
	Do any of you post on more traditional porn sites like Pornhub or anything, or is it just OnlyFans?
	I've like started on many vids before OF and I also recently did a professional porn film.
	Yeah.
	So I do I have like multi-facets of my content.
	We're about to lose like 100 viewers in chat right now.
	Oh, because they're going to head on over to.
	Let me get caught up on some super chats here.
	All right.
	We have Vile Rantala.
	I believe that's Colombian Pesos.
	Thank you for the 20,000 Colombian pesos.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Whereas Chase, he should be here speaking about Jesus.
	You're right.
	He should have been here.
	Unfortunately, you know, I think he's probably in a Twitter space right now talking about politics, but he's tired of arguing with girls about dating.
	Let's see.
	We have Michael Trilstein.
	Oh, God.
	Here, Jason, can you read this one?
	I can't even see it, dude.
	My eyes are terrible.
	On my screen.
	Oh, they bring Dasana to Fameri.
	W Jason, the Chad.
	W Jason.
	Is that the best you can do with your accent?
	Yeah, I was born and raised here.
	I mean, absolutely.
	I mean, me too.
	Can I read that one?
	Yes, go ahead.
	Okay.
	Well, she got it.
	Yeah, I got it.
	I mean, I'm Vietnamese.
	They bring Dasana to Famarine.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	See?
	Anyone else want to take a crack at it?
	We got it.
	Oh, we're good.
	Listen to me.
	I don't think I can talk about it.
	Brian, you try it.
	You can try it.
	Yeah.
	You try it.
	Yeah, my blessing.
	Yeah, my blessing, Brian.
	Let's do it.
	You give consent.
	I give consent.
	They bring Dishona to ephemeri.
	The show was not trafficked.
	We're canceled.
	I'm canceled now.
	It wasn't.
	Jason.
	Killing me.
	Michael Trillstein, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	All right, we got Common Rider 808, $10 Soup Chat.
	Welp, I'm out.
	Have fun, April.
	And of course, the rest of the ladies and men.
	Hey, thank you for stopping by.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Vile Rantal.
	Tell me how to pronounce your name, man.
	I'm butchering it.
	Thank you for the 20,000 Colombian pesos, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Squirt Games, you mean?
	Did someone say, oh, some, I think Trillstein said squid games earlier before.
	Did he?
	Who said squid games?
	original.
	Did I?
	I missed it?
	Did you?
	Where?
	Right there.
	Oh, W Squid Games.
	Did I not read it?
	Oh, fuck.
	My bad.
	Can you pull it up?
	Oh, that's because for some reason, my bad.
	Only me.
	Okay, Michael Trillstein, W Squid Games, and then it was supposed to be...
	Let me see if I can pull it back up here.
	Oh, here we go.
	Squirt Games, you mean?
	Okay, yeah.
	They've probably already released that on one of the, some video or something.
	Not them necessarily, but Declan Trippier, thank you for becoming a member, man.
	Appreciate the support.
	Thank you for the 20,000 Colombian pesos, man.
	Vial?
	Vile?
	I don't know.
	Next year, we will see whatever in OnlyFans or in Cornhub.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Actually, I do have an OnlyFans.
	It's onlyfans.com slash whatever.
	No cap.
	I actually contacted them and they gave it to me.
	So.
	It's in the works.
	What do you sell?
	I don't have anything on there right now.
	I'm thinking maybe Kiki over here.
	She's just off camera, but maybe take some photos with Kiki.
	She's soft.
	That she is.
	Oh, yeah.
	I've never heard chastity is intact.
	I will have you know.
	Oh, okay.
	Her cherry has not been popped.
	Yeah, her virtue remains.
	So, so, yeah.
	Guys, thank you for the super chats, by the way.
	Actually, while we pull up Twitch, let me just shout out anyone on Twitch real quick.
	All right.
	Yo, thank you.
	I can't read these.
	Phoenix, thank you for the follow.
	Hi, Phoenix.
	Dahoo, thank you for the follow.
	Chef Utemo, thank you for the follow.
	Uruhana, thank you for the follow.
	Who cares?
	Thank you for the follow.
	David Choi, thank you for the follow.
	Much appreciated.
	All right, so.
	Hi, Nico.
	Hi, Nate.
	I don't know if I have any more questions related to OnlyFans, really.
	I mean, well.
	How did you girls decide to do it?
	And did you guys kind of were iffy about it when you guys decided to do it?
	Well, at least for me, I was anonymous and faceless.
	And I was just like, you know what?
	I'm just going to post these photos on Reddit just for curiosity, just for fun, just to see what people would say.
	And then one of the photos went viral on Reddit, and a bunch of my male high school and college friends went on a witch hunt to see if it was me.
	And then I got scared and quit.
	But then I think in 2021, I was like, I got to make rent.
	I know what I got.
	I'm going to do it.
	So a means to an end.
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	I feel like as a person, I've always been very sexually expressive with myself.
	But I've always liked the idea of taking risque photos, like boudoir shoots, like anything more like a professional setting.
	That got my interest in it.
	I also started off faceless on Reddit.
	And then I think slowly over time, that just built a momentum.
	And I gained more confidence to start showing my face.
	Okay.
	I saw a TikTok of someone posting and being like, I made a million dollars this year on OnlyFans.
	And I was a broke college student working as a returch.
	So I was like, you know what?
	We're going to do it.
	And you did it.
	I was already a sex worker, so it actually wasn't a huge transition for me.
	I was a stripper, like, trying to make ends meet in college, basically.
	One of my friends told me that I could be a stripper, and she wanted me to try it out.
	And I made a lot of money on my first night, so I stuck with it.
	But then when the pandemic started, all the clubs closed.
	So this same friend started up in OnlyFans and then encouraged me to do it as well.
	She's pretty big now.
	Her name is Emma Magnolia.
	But she helped me with my OnlyFans and then I became successful through that.
	You said you made a lot on your first night stripping?
	How much did you make?
	I made about a band.
	And this was in a rural area.
	A rural area.
	Yeah.
	It was a really good idea.
	Idaho?
	Great guess, but no, it was Arkansas.
	I don't know if that's worse or better, but I would say it's worse.
	Okay, worse.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	And so you said you did sex work before and that was stripping, right?
	Have any of you escorted?
	No.
	Nobody?
	No escorts?
	No.
	Do you guys have a price?
	For example, let's say one of your OnlyFans people's like one of your fans, I guess, is like, listen, 50 Gs.
	No.
	Just because I'm not afraid of that.
	Maybe is that too much?
	I don't think that's enough for them.
	They're making that in a month.
	Well, let's not speak for us.
	So one of the times and conditions with OnlyFans is that you don't meet up.
	And so it's not worth compromising our accounts.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's a loophole, though.
	What is the loophole?
	If you film it and tag them on OnlyFans, it's technically a collab.
	So if you're like, yeah, 200K, can we film it?
	Oh, so it's against the rules to meet up with people?
	You're not supposed to encourage like meeting.
	I can't even type the word meet.
	Yeah, yeah, it's censored.
	You have to do M33T.
	She knows.
	Okay, so would you guys be willing to do a essentially escort for the right price?
	If we film it.
	Okay, how much?
	Yeah, like $250k maybe.
	$250K, okay.
	Maybe.
	Princess April.
	I don't know.
	I don't think about it.
	I guess around that same price too, I guess.
	Yeah.
	I personally wouldn't do it.
	I don't, just because I show my pussy on the internet doesn't mean that I'll just fuck anybody, to be honest.
	Sure.
	I want to, if I want to sleep with someone, it's because I have a connection with them.
	Or like I'm comfortable with them.
	Okay.
	I feel like for me, if I ever wanted to do it, I would kind of have like maybe like a pre-meeting first just to kind of get the vibes.
	But like 100k minimum.
	And like, I feel like, I mean, personally, if I'm going to spend the night with someone, I might as well just like, you know, try to have a good time.
	Okay.
	Be a buddy, a homie.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It depends on how hot they are.
	Mine is the same as Trixie.
	And I, like, for me, the way I see it is, like, I'm already showing myself to the internet.
	Pull the mic closer to you.
	Sorry.
	I'm already showing myself to the internet.
	And how do I make my future partner feel special?
	And this is where I draw the line.
	This is how I'm going to make him feel special.
	I'm not going to shoot with someone or anything like that.
	That's how I show that I love him in that type of way.
	Okay.
	Oh, I think it depends on if I'm really attracted to them or not.
	It really just comes down to that.
	I'd say they're mid.
	I would say 50K.
	One must pay.
	Okay.
	Reasonable.
	I think I'm a really big connections person.
	I don't think I could.
	I haven't really given this question a thought.
	I guess you'd have to, like, I don't know.
	Would you do it?
	Would I do it?
	Yeah.
	Would for a woman to pay me, would I have it?
	Women pay her.
	She has fair.
	No, I wouldn't.
	I mean, women don't really like be looking for male prostitutes like that.
	I'm sure it happens, like, but it's just not.
	That'd be surprising.
	The demand is not there.
	Answer the question.
	Yeah.
	What's your price?
	What's my price?
	A million.
	I mean, honestly, if she's hot for free.
	It doesn't work for free.
	I'm going to do that shit for free.
	Wow, no self-respect.
	Well, it's just like, I don't.
	I mean.
	You girls do know guys will fuck a girl they don't even want.
	It's just a difference of demand.
	Like you guys probably.
	Here's the difference of demand is that you guys probably have on your Instagram, like you have guys that would at the drop of a fucking saying?
	Dime.
	Drop of a dime.
	Would fuck you guys.
	It's easy for y'all.
	Whereas like I don't even get DMs like that from girls.
	I think you should.
	Like regular chicks.
	I think you should.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	But they ain't really sending.
	Girls aren't really hitting up guys like that.
	I got a network.
	I got you, fam.
	Check your DMs after this podcast.
	You're going to be monsters.
	Nah, it's just like, it really isn't like that.
	But I get a couple DMs, but like, it just.
	So, but okay, real let's say let's say she's I I find her unattractive.
	Like she's repulsive.
	Like 200.
	Is she clean?
	She clean.
	Let's say she's clean, right?
	So it's a sliding scale?
	Sliding scale is very accessible.
	Yeah.
	I'll do it for a cheeseburger.
	Go ahead.
	Rocket Reina.
	That's fair.
	She just got in and out, though.
	No McDonald's.
	Okay, Rocket Reina.
	You don't care about people finishing.
	Wait, what?
	Huh?
	Yeah, you said in and out.
	Oh, no, like the burger.
	The restaurant, the restaurant.
	I'm sorry, I'm not from here.
	Really quick, where are you guys from?
	Oh, I'm from California.
	Okay.
	I was raised in Ohio.
	Ohio.
	Okay.
	I was raised in South Korea.
	My dad's in the military.
	Then I moved to Arkansas.
	Now I live in Chicago.
	Okay.
	I was born and raised in Hawaii.
	Nice.
	Born and raised in Dallas, but I'm now in Denver.
	I'm in Ohio.
	China and then Texas.
	I'm in California.
	Oh, okay.
	Cool.
	So wait, just to go back, what's your price to be an escort?
	Or where did we leave off?
	Oh, I said no.
	You said no.
	What about you?
	Let's see.
	Well, I have asked a fan before that I met at Anime Expo because he was really nice when he approached me and he was like, oh, hey, I'm also a content creator and I'm a big fan of your Reddit.
	Like, would you like to meet up?
	So then we met up three months later because I thought he was really nice and hot.
	So I feel like if you're nice and hot, then as long as you're able to pay for your lodging and travel to me, then it can happen.
	Well, how much did he pay you?
	It was a content trade because he was also a creator.
	Is that really like, I don't know if that's really escorting?
	Well, it's because like, I don't know.
	I mean, it's like, if you are attractive, then I will be down for it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Jason, what's your price?
	How I wouldn't make a girl pay for me to have sex with her.
	Why would I do that?
	So you can.
	Okay, so you'd fuck any girl.
	I mean, not any girl.
	What are your standards?
	I mean, as long as she's attractive and clean.
	What's your type?
	I'm like really curious on what your type is.
	I honestly don't have a type.
	I just like hot girls.
	Well, don't you?
	What does that mean?
	Don't you?
	I have any preference.
	So I'm your type.
	What's that?
	You said you like hot girls.
	I'm your type, right?
	I guess so.
	Okay, then.
	I mean, if I'm not, you can be specific.
	What's your definition of clean?
	No STVs.
	No STBs.
	Oh, okay.
	You prefer low partners?
	Like, they don't have a low number count or like a high number count?
	I mean, if we're talking just sex, strictly sex, like, I don't really care about any of that.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Wait, okay.
	You don't care about body count?
	Not when it comes to just sex, yeah.
	Okay.
	Don't you currently have a girlfriend, though?
	No.
	No, we stopped.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's over with.
	Yeah.
	Chad, y'all can get off my back.
	Rip.
	Are you okay?
	I know, but I'm seeing someone else.
	Like, kind of.
	Oh, okay.
	He's quick.
	I mean, it's very new.
	It's like very new.
	We just started talking, so.
	Okay.
	She's 20, Chad.
	What?
	I know.
	Oh, my.
	Oh, okay.
	That shit.
	Okay.
	Wait, how old are you?
	I'm 32.
	32?
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay.
	You guys asked what his type is, but what's y'all's type for a partner?
	Well, they have to be ambitious.
	I'd love to be with a very ambitious man that can also support me and my girls, can also be a loving person and just like overall nice and you know like minimally attractive.
	Minimally attractive.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you said you want a guy who's ambitious, successful, so he can support you, support your, you said you had two girls, right?
	Yeah, we will, well, I would love to like support each other.
	Yeah.
	My girls are like, they're like grown.
	One of them just recently applied for UC like Berkeley, I think.
	I was reading her ads, and I hope she gets it.
	Honestly, did she apply for UCSB?
	I don't know, to be quite honest.
	I just know she wants to go to Berkeley.
	Oh, Berkeley's concerned.
	Yeah, she's really smart.
	She wants to.
	What?
	Isn't it like one of the top public schools in California?
	I mean, it's kind of trash, but don't worry about it.
	Okay.
	I'm kidding.
	It's great.
	She'll do good.
	And you said they're both, both your daughters are like about to go to college or in college?
	One of them already graduated college.
	The other one is about to go to college.
	I mean, was she already?
	No, she went to a community college.
	She's just applying for.
	I think she's just transferring.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But I would just love to have a man that would like support all three of us.
	I mean, but I would still work.
	And you'd still do OnlyFans?
	Yeah, of course.
	I mean, I would just love to do as much as you can and then, you know, route to another occupation, like real estate.
	Or I'm still practicing day trading.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	So your.
	Have you ever.
	Do your two daughters know you?
	I assume they know you do OnlyFans.
	Yes, they are grown.
	Would you push them to do OnlyFans?
	I would not push them to do anything.
	Okay.
	Would you be against if they came to you and they said, but if they came to you and they're like, hey, mom, we want to start an OnlyFans, like, would you be like, fucking go for it?
	Or would you be like, eh.
	I would just ask them questions like, oh, like, who are you going to be doing content with?
	Who are your friends going to be?
	Just make sure you use like an alias name, etc.
	Just, I just care more about their safety.
	I mean, like, they're also like influencers as well, but I just really care more about their safety and I already taught them that.
	And they're very responsible girls.
	Okay.
	I love them.
	They're all talking.
	You're tight.
	What's your type?
	I love short kings.
	Stop.
	Stop the cat.
	Stop the cat.
	You should look at Peter.
	He's like 5'6.
	Peter?
	I'm 5'9, so.
	Yeah, the married guy that my assistant.
	Oh, okay.
	I should look at him.
	Yeah, he's a short king.
	And there's been a correlation between good dick game and being short.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So short kings, that's your type.
	All right.
	I just want someone who can be my best friend.
	It doesn't matter what they do.
	It doesn't matter how much money they make.
	I just want someone at the end of the day that I can talk to about whatever I'm feeling.
	You could either be about the most.
	Sounds like a therapist.
	I mean, they are.
	Just get a therapist.
	No, that costs money.
	Are you serious?
	Why do I need to talk to a therapist when I can talk to a man and unleash all my problems onto him instead for free?
	Maybe that's why I'm single.
	But again, I just want someone with like a nice sense of humor and overall like just, I don't know, morally good person.
	That's all I can ask for.
	I'm not really picky.
	Just be funny.
	Make me laugh.
	That's it.
	Oh.
	Okay, my turn.
	Okay.
	I like shy golden retriever gamer voice because I play a lot of video games and I need a person that's going to rage with me when we lose games together.
	Because here's the thing, like Gamer Boys, they got some nice fingers.
	It's very dexterous.
	They got that words per minute, the fucking micro.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, boom, boom, boom.
	Okay.
	So you want a gamer guy.
	Yeah, I like Gamer Boys.
	I know someone.
	Oh.
	Can I tell you a bit about him?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So he's in the top North American hardcore rating guild in World of Warcraft classic.
	Like top, I think it's top 10.
	He's got 460s.
	He mains a rogue.
	He's got an alt warrior.
	Why are you laughing, Jason?
	What the fuck you're talking about?
	And then he also alts Warlock and Mage.
	Yeah.
	And on Warcraft Logs, he parses in the 99th percentile.
	So all pink parses.
	All pink parses.
	The entire guild and his hardcore rating guild, right?
	So full consumes, full world buffs.
	You know, they're doing best in slot for all their gear.
	Summoning alts.
	Gamers.
	Wow.
	That's impressive.
	Yeah.
	And they fucking ran their server back during like Fresh Vanilla.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	I think you lost her at World of Warcraft.
	Here.
	Literally, wow.
	But like, okay, he was like, they were his server, sorry, the guild, like, first to clear Molten Core, first to clear BWL, first to clear AQ40, first to clear Nax, speedrunners too.
	Wow, he speedruns?
	Speedruns.
	Dude, speedrunners are amazing.
	And they have the world bosses on farm, Azer Ghost and the Shara.
	Does he like stream all of this for all of the other games?
	He doesn't stream.
	He doesn't stream.
	He's just like, he's a sweaty gamer.
	Oh, he's just like anonymously just getting like the top parses.
	Top parses, yep.
	Mad respect, like grinding is a lot of work.
	I play Final Fantasy XIV, critically acclaimed ML RPG.
	And yeah, there's a lot of grinding.
	And like, you know, you kind of have to be careful with timing, you know, main all the roles, know what everyone's doing.
	It's a lot of teamwork too.
	So like mad respect, like people who raid specifically, like, I wish that you could put a rating on your resume.
	Like, it's good stuff.
	Especially the leadership and guilds and shit.
	That's like a full-time job.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	The organization to have like 40 or 25 or you know people every week show up.
	It's it's tough.
	It's like a part-time job, honestly.
	Okay, what's your type?
	A guy who is willing to try.
	So like, okay, he may not be fit, but he tries his best to be healthy and take care of himself.
	So let's say I'm really into Overwatch.
	I would like him to try play Overwatch with me.
	You know, willing to try.
	Okay.
	So we've got some gamer girls here.
	All right.
	I like nerdy guys too.
	And I have to agree that I love short kings.
	I feel like that's where the confidence is.
	How tall are you though?
	I'm 5'9 as well.
	You're 5'9.
	Yeah, I feel like there's a correlation between like tall queens and short kings.
	I agree.
	They're made for each other.
	Tall queens and short kings.
	Okay, got it.
	I like someone with kind eyes.
	Someone who has like really good dad qualities.
	Let's see.
	I will also add a point to the short kings and the gamer boys.
	Gamer Boys, finger game, top tier, S tier.
	And short kings, I'm a short queen, so anyone taller than six foot is a little too hard to do the mattress mambo with, you know?
	It's too difficult.
	Jason, are y'all just saying this stuff?
	No.
	I'm honest.
	I'm like 5'8 in between 20.
	You know, not everyone is looking for a guy that's over 6 feet.
	Yeah, most true.
	Most women are.
	I know, but most girls don't want a guy that's shorter than them, typically.
	Most women don't want a guy shorter than them.
	I had a guy shorter than me.
	Oh, sorry.
	I had a guy shorter than me that broke my heart.
	Damn.
	Like, I was in love with him.
	He broke my heart.
	He was two inches shorter than me.
	StarCraft player?
	No.
	League of Legends player.
	Ribbon name.
	It's always the League of Legends player.
	I actually think most guys don't want a girl who's taller than them.
	I feel like men have more of a height preference than women do.
	No way.
	Are you sure they all agree?
	No.
	What do you think?
	Yeah.
	I don't know a lot of men that would date a woman who's taller than them, honestly.
	Right here.
	I did a woman who's taller than me.
	My preference is shorter than me.
	That's right.
	But it's not, like, for a lot of women, it's 100% no-go if they're shorter.
	For a lot of women, they want a guy who's at least taller than them, and you often hear six foot up.
	That's just a risk.
	Maybe you guys are outliers.
	I'm probably an outlier.
	Are you girls more into Asian guys?
	Or do you guys have a type?
	Yeah, do you guys have a racial preference?
	I prefer Asian guys.
	Asian guys.
	Anybody else?
	My serious relationships have always been Asian guys.
	I like any type.
	I don't have no type.
	Anyone side in my DMs.
	Okay, but so hold on.
	You think that men have a greater height preference than women?
	I just think it's not as talked about, yeah, because I feel like I don't know.
	I just feel like I've heard a lot of men say that they would not date a woman who's taller than them.
	Or that it's not their preference.
	When I was a kid, I grew way taller than everyone else.
	Like, I was 5'7 by the time I was 12.
	And no one ever gave me a Valentine.
	And like, I don't know.
	Yeah, did not like me when I was taller than them.
	She's my Valentine now.
	The thing is, though, is that most men are taller than most women.
	So, like, for a guy to say he wouldn't, like, the amount of men that can say, I wouldn't date a woman who's taller than me, there's not a lot of women who are taller than men.
	Whereas you often hear a lot of women say, well, okay, if I'm wearing heels, I want to be taller than the guy in heels.
	So then that adds two to three inches.
	But overwhelmingly, when it comes to height, women for sure, that's for sure a primary preference for women.
	Men, we don't give a fuck.
	Give me a 6'7 woman.
	Give me a 4'11 woman, too.
	Legally a midget.
	Do you guys know any dwarves, by the way?
	I'm asking for a friend.
	No anyone?
	A dwarf?
	I'm not.
	Like 4'11 type?
	Well, like shorter than actually a little person.
	I'm down.
	I'm looking.
	If you guys know me.
	I'll keep my eyes open.
	I'll create my eyes open.
	I'm crazy in Vegas.
	In Vegas, she had a midget lady gaga at her friend's party.
	So I can ask her contacts.
	I don't know if I want a dwarf in the entertainment industry, though.
	I want like a rare dwarf.
	A regular.
	A regular.
	Don't knock until you try it.
	I'm going to get canceled.
	I think so, yeah.
	So would you want anyone in the dating in the entertainment industry?
	I don't know why I wouldn't.
	I would date a dwarf in the entertainment industry, sure.
	What about in general?
	Like any woman in the entertainment industry?
	I'd say it's fine.
	I'm not really pressed so much on that.
	Would I rather date, like, a girl who is in STEM or something?
	Probably.
	But, like, if she's a fellow, I don't know, YouTubers are, I'm speaking from self-experience.
	I don't know.
	Just if you're in social media, it's just kind of like there's a little something wrong with you.
	A little something.
	I mean, I'm speaking for myself.
	That's a mood.
	So would it matter if your girl wanted to make like a couple million year?
	Are you talking about, are we going to talk about OnlyFans now?
	Yeah, like, I don't know.
	Would you let your girl do OnlyFans if it meant a couple million year?
	Or does it not matter?
	So are you saying I've met her, she's not had an OnlyFans, we're already together and then she wants to start it?
	I'm going to take half.
	You're going to pimp her out.
	I'll take half.
	Well, I'll help her off.
	What are you going to do, though?
	I'll take the photos, you know.
	That's it?
	Would you edit them?
	Would you take the photos?
	Would you film it?
	Would you market?
	Are you going to market her?
	I'll take the photos occasionally.
	You know, I'll get her a tripod with a timer so that she can do most of it.
	But like occasionally, if I'm not busy, you know, I'll maybe take a few.
	Are you the ones behind the agency?
	Yes, I actually, I have an OnlyFans agency.
	Check it out.
	It's yeah, it's I forgot the name of it, whatever, OnlyFansAgency.net.
	Okay.
	So, sorry, what was your question?
	Would I date if a lot of guys, Jason, do you want to answer this and then I'll go?
	You answer first and I'll go ahead.
	I'm going to be honest, I probably, I wouldn't.
	Yeah, I wouldn't.
	I wouldn't be okay with that.
	Why?
	I mean, I get the fast money.
	It's enticing, but I mean, I'm just kind of raised traditional.
	That's fair.
	Because my mother, that's like one thing she always taught me, is like, don't go the fast route.
	You can be retired in like three years, though, if you invest right.
	That's true.
	It wouldn't necessarily be fast.
	Like I said, it's enticing.
	It's enticing.
	And if she was really hot, it's going to even be even more enticing.
	Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do that.
	Why are you working so hard?
	Why are you working so hard?
	Yeah, like why are you hustling so hard to make money?
	You're an entrepreneur.
	So you didn't take the 9 to 5.
	You were taking the route that faster money than the 9 to 5 route.
	Oh, no.
	I would say what I do is way harder than a 9 to 5.
	Of course, yeah.
	I mean, like, we're working 24-7, really.
	Like, some of us only sleep like four or five hours a night.
	I mean, of course, it's not just like the fast money, but it's obviously like there's some kind of like social media.
	There's a stigma, stigma.
	And like, that kind of is iffy to me.
	Is it the stigma that scares you, like, being associated with it?
	I mean, I care about maintaining the respect I have from people that I respect.
	And it's like, I just know it's not a widely accepted thing in society.
	So it's just something I would have an issue with, regardless of how much money is involved.
	What about if you met a girl and she already had an OnlyFans going?
	Is it just a no-go for you?
	For a relationship?
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	It's going to be a no-go.
	Recreational use only?
	Yeah.
	Even, no, but recreational.
	Yeah, I'll just talk about it and have fun.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's a tough one for me.
	I would take it on a case-by-case basis.
	I want to say if she's created, if she's doing solo content, well, okay, you gave me the example you gave me was you're already seeing the girl.
	So if I'm already seeing the girl, one, I wouldn't do content with her.
	I wouldn't put myself out like that.
	No one should do that.
	That's something they're not comfortable with.
	Well, yeah, of course.
	I wouldn't do the content with her.
	Obviously, she'd have to do solo stuff.
	Would you be okay if she did content with other girls and just strictly girls?
	No.
	Probably not.
	Would you let her kiss a girl?
	It's still like STDs, you know, so I feel like even with other girls, that's a no.
	I mean, in this industry, it's very common to get STD tested, especially.
	Before seen.
	Even on OnlyFans, though?
	Not even just before seen, but like regularly.
	Because I feel, I mean, I know with the more traditional porn industry, that's a thing, but.
	I feel like we have all collaborated with each other and we have all gotten STD tested, even though it's not for a professional.
	Full panel.
	Full panel.
	Because if you go to your doctor and you say, I want a thorough STD test, they're probably not going to check for HPV, herpes.
	A lot of times they don't check for that shit, but I, I mean, I don't know if it's, it's everything.
	It is everything.
	Okay.
	And it's still kind of cheap.
	I mean, a girl, I don't know.
	Girls, definitely no-go for sure with another dude.
	Of course.
	That's a wrap.
	Of course.
	That's your boundary.
	Let's say, though, I was just meeting a girl.
	If she did solo stuff, I might get hate on the chat for this.
	If she did solo stuff, I would date her.
	But if she did boy-girl stuff, I'm just like, nah, I can't do that.
	Why aren't you okay with that?
	Well, I mean, well, first off, if I'm going to pursue someone, like, I want them to be properly single when I'm dealing with them.
	But if it's only in a professional capacity, isn't she still properly single?
	Like, if she's only having sex with men, like, on sets or something?
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, if she's only having sex with men, like in a professional capacity, like for scenes or like on sets.
	I mean, sexual fidelity is something that I value in a potential partner.
	So like, I don't care if it's in a professional context, if it's in a 304 context, like I just, I can't do it.
	Okay, I think that's fair.
	That is fair.
	That's completely valid.
	Nah, it would be a wrap.
	So yeah, if she had previously done or is doing any boy-girl stuff, I can't do it.
	I couldn't date her.
	I mean, what's your guys' experience like with dating?
	Like, I'm assuming it causes some issues.
	I started my OnlyFans with my ex, and we were together for seven years, but he never did any content with me.
	I started off doing solo.
	And what my boundary and my limits were, and what we agreed upon was that if I do collabs, it's only with other girls.
	Strictly just girls.
	And I think I've just kind of taken that into account for myself, and that's what I'm just used to now.
	I don't do collabs with other men, again, because I would rather have like a personal connection with them prior to sleeping with them.
	But for me, like, if it's with just girls that I just met, then it's more of like a work opportunity where I can turn that part off of my mind and just get to work with them.
	Because it's a win-win either way.
	Like two hot girls doing it with each other, and you make money at the end.
	When it comes to dating, do you guys think that having an OnlyFans makes it harder?
	For sure, because of the stigma around it, right?
	Okay.
	While we go around the table, we'll start with you, Princess April.
	Well, I mainly do GGs with an occasion of friends with benefits who just keep a professional for shooting and dating other people while having OnlyFans.
	It's a lot harder more for having kids than having an OnlyFans in a dating field for sure.
	So.
	Yeah, I could see that.
	Having kids is probably a bigger issue.
	But I'm not like with them all the time.
	They're, like, grown, so it's just, like, it's just kind of, like, they just need, like, some open-minded understanding.
	Like it could just really be just us two.
	And then my kids could be there on occasions.
	They're like living on their own and stuff.
	I personally haven't had too much of an issue because the men that I date for short periods of time are either very free-spirited as well, or they're into, you know, like being cogged.
	So the boy girl stuff kind of works out anyways.
	Yikes.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Well, dating-wise, I would say in general can be hard because of the negative stigma around it.
	But for me personally, since I've never tried to go date a person, I wouldn't have any personal stories to share or tell with that.
	I mean, personally for me, when I share that I have an OF, I mean, there's a lot of skepticism.
	And then I kind of ask them, like, oh, so like, how much do you know about the field?
	Like, I can totally explain it to you, go behind the scenes.
	And then once I tell them, you know, what I do, how much I make, they're like, oh, yeah, I'm ready to be your sugar baby.
	I'm like, yep.
	So actually, it actually has helped me.
	Wait, hold on.
	The guys are ready to be your sugar baby.
	Yeah.
	So you'll support a guy?
	Yeah, if I love him.
	Oh, if you love him.
	Well, I assume, like, for most relationships, that takes a certain period of time before you're in love with someone.
	Oh, of course.
	Like, you know, because once I kind of tell them the income and like whatever, they're like, oh, so like, oh my god, I can be a homie.
	You want that new gaming mouse?
	Sure, I'll give it to you.
	But like, you're not sugaring off off rip, like from the jump.
	Not from the jump.
	I mean, I will say, like, sometimes I do think like being a sugar mommy sounds kind of fun.
	Because I just like to make people happy.
	So like, you know, sometimes I think of like, you know, if I was super rich out there, I would totally do it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I would say it's hard, but I actually met my ex like when I was like through OnlyFans.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Personally, I haven't found it that hard just because I tend to go for people who are sexually open and would prefer an open relationship like me.
	So I would only date someone who has that in common with me.
	I'm not really focusing on dating right now.
	I think like I'm very, I'm focusing on my like my relationships with my family, my friends.
	Relationships are like very strong.
	But I guess if I were to date, I wouldn't see it as a problem because it's kind of a filter.
	Whereas if I'm very open about it, if someone were to propose, like, was like, hey, I just go out to eat or something.
	I don't really mind it.
	If I tell them they have an issue with it, then it wasn't meant to be.
	For me, I posted pics before I met my current partner and started my OF during our relationship.
	So it wasn't, I guess, it wasn't a problem.
	I told him pretty much the day I met him that, hey, this is what I do.
	And if you're not cool with it, then it's not going to work out.
	And I am pretty strong opinionated with my work.
	I enjoy it.
	And it's like, if you don't like it, then it's not going to work out.
	But thankfully, I haven't run into any issues with anyone opposing that since Tomiye, I tend to go for people more sexually open as well, similar to myself.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you said something about cucks.
	Can you expand on that?
	They just, they like being cuck.
	They like seeing me with other guys.
	And they like to just watch sometimes or film.
	And they enjoy doing that.
	So have you dated any guys who have a cuck fantasy or anything?
	Yeah, yeah.
	More guys are into it than you might think, especially like sorry, I gotta do the fucking bra.
	Okay, continue, guys.
	Especially the guys that seem like they would never be into like that, like very, I don't know, socially dominant guys.
	I feel like a lot of the times they'll have like the secret cuck fantasy where they want to be, yeah.
	The socially dominant guys actually want to be dumb.
	You'd be surprised.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah.
	Nobody would be surprised.
	The type of people who like to be cucked.
	How do you guys differentiate like guys that are just acting free-spirited to get access to like have sex with you guys and like guys that are actually not and interested in them like genuinely interested?
	I think it's all about communication, right?
	I feel like if we first meet a guy, we're not going to like fuck them right away just to find out.
	But I think it all takes like long talks and discussions about what we're both into sexually, what we're open to, what we're not open to, what we're willing to try, what we're not willing to try.
	What if he just tells you like really long lies?
	Oh dang.
	Well then that's.
	And he's a fucking liar.
	And he's a shitty person.
	I'm still, the cuck thing is like kind of okay.
	Are any of you into cuck queening?
	Do you know what that is?
	It's like the female version, cuck queen.
	So you want to see your guy like fuck another chick in front of you.
	Yeah, yeah, I like that.
	You like that.
	Okay.
	I'm also attractive because it's like sexually that's hot.
	It's hot, yeah.
	Like I wouldn't be with a guy who I don't find hot.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Wait, so for you, do you have like, have you had guys who maybe you're seeing or whatever, and they want to like be in the room while you're getting fucked?
	Yeah.
	No, that happens.
	They're just like in a corner.
	Or you're the ones.
	Oh, masturbating.
	And crying.
	Maybe some crying.
	Okay.
	Would that be a turn on if they were crying in the corner?
	Maybe.
	Sometimes.
	In the corner of the room.
	Depending on the relationship.
	Okay, got it.
	Oh, whoa.
	Send the asteroid.
	Send the asteroid.
	Oh.
	Okay, there you go.
	Wow.
	Let me get caught up on some super chats here.
	So, yeah, we got My Gangsterism.
	Thank you for becoming a member, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Welcome to the family.
	We got My Gangsterism.
	Thank you for this $10 Super Chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Hate to break it to these 30 foes, but they will never have a partner that respects them.
	They're strictly for pump and dump.
	Do you guys have a response to my gangsterism?
	Sound like a lonely fuck.
	Ooh, shots fired.
	Anyone else?
	Anyone else want to shoot shots at my gangsterism?
	Hump dump is kind of what I'm here for, so like go for it.
	She's about it.
	Okay.
	We have Declan Trippier.
	Thank you for the $10.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Hell yeah, 5'7 ShortKing checking in.
	I don't have gamer hands, but what do y'all think of rough construction worker hands?
	Oh, shit.
	Daddy, yes.
	Daddy!
	You must have strong hands, strong grip, maybe.
	Yeah, by the way, look at him right there in the thumbnail.
	Are you guys?
	He's got the neon highlight, high viz. High voice.
	I love a man in uniform.
	Do you think he could collaborate with any of you guys on a little OnlyFans series?
	Yeah.
	All right, Declan Trippier.
	Go for it.
	Okay.
	Pullux, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Jim from Bama, good 20, 20, for whatever.
	Looking forward to 23, more live.
	But for tonight, send the asteroid.
	I got you, bro.
	Okay.
	Asteroid has been sent.
	We, yeah.
	Haram!
	Okay.
	So I'm curious.
	Do you guys want to get married?
	I know some of you have been married.
	I know some of you have children.
	But do you want to have kids?
	Do you want to have a husband?
	Do you want to get married?
	So, I mean, do you want to get remarried?
	Or what are you thinking?
	Yes.
	Yes, okay.
	Do you want to have more kids or you think you're tapped out?
	Okay, you're good.
	You got two, you know.
	What about you?
	When I'm 30, and if I find the right guy, yeah.
	So marriage and kids.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you think you'll still be doing OnlyFans then or do you think you'll have made enough money to them?
	If I'm still enjoying the platform and everything, then I'd just still keep going.
	But if not, then I'd hope to be able to retire by that point.
	I'd like to do OF work and anything on that platform for as long as I can before I start a family.
	And then I feel like once I get settled down, have a husband and have some kids, it's when I'm going to get off the platform.
	Okay.
	But you do want kids.
	You do want to get married.
	Okay.
	Personally for me, I'm pretty hesitant on having kids just because I think that having kids is extremely difficult.
	It takes a lot of power, a lot of patience, persistence, love, all of that.
	So I think I'm more hesitant on having kids.
	But that's for marriage.
	Super down for that.
	Okay.
	I would like to have kids and also get married too.
	That'd be a dream.
	I think I'd like to get married, but not in the near future.
	It would have to be when I'm older and I feel more prepared.
	And technically, I have been engaged in the past, so it just didn't work out.
	So I would like to wait a long time.
	And I would only have kids with the right person.
	The right person.
	But you would have kids, given it's the right person.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	You want kids?
	Yeah, I do.
	I just think it's hard to find the right person to raise children with.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I think I'm the stepmom type.
	Stepmom?
	Stepmom.
	Well, you already have kids, right?
	Yeah, I don't want more kids.
	Yeah.
	At least in the next, like, 20 years or so, I don't think I want kids.
	I'm probably going to freeze my eggs.
	But also, I question my ability to get, I question my ability to get pregnant, because I have been raw dogging it.
	Probably not the best, but.
	Well, are you on birth control?
	No, because I've had a really bad reaction to it lately.
	So pull out?
	Yeah, Jesus take the wheel right now.
	But like, has a guy full-on blasted inside and still not gotten pregnant?
	Or?
	Yeah.
	Wait, so, okay, is that you, you said you're raw dogging it.
	Is he pulling out?
	Yes or no?
	Yeah, he pulls out.
	Oh, there's been some mistakes.
	Yeah.
	Some oopsies, you know?
	Oopsies.
	Okay.
	It's so good.
	It's too good.
	I don't know.
	If the pull-out game is on point, then I feel like it's pretty solid.
	Gorilla grip, too good.
	Okay, she's got the Gorilla grip.
	All right.
	You're speechless.
	You're thinking about her.
	They know.
	I'm not going to front, though.
	Sometimes if it's too tight, you know?
	No, what?
	Like, if it's too tight.
	She's just not turned on, buddy.
	I'm sorry.
	No, that's not true.
	Well, sometimes it's just like, is there such a thing as pussy that's too tight?
	Yeah, I don't know about that, right?
	May I ask, like, how long do you guys usually go down on a girl?
	Jason, you go first and then I'll answer this.
	I mean, I typically only do that with girls that I like, like, am in a relationship with.
	How long?
	How long?
	Like, how long will you be down there?
	I mean, I'll say maybe like five, like, five minutes.
	That's a long time.
	Five minutes, no?
	Boo.
	Boo.
	Wait, so do you expect to receive head from girls that you don't want to have a relationship with?
	Like, if you're having sex?
	I mean, I don't expect it, but if it happens, I mean, it's.
	Do you ask for it?
	I mean, I have.
	Typically, it just happens, like, kind of naturally.
	But you wouldn't give them head?
	God.
	Not a girl I just met.
	Yeah, no.
	Why?
	Because she might have been fucking someone like two days ago or a day ago.
	Even if she's really hot?
	Even if she's really hot.
	Would that apply to you?
	What if the girl thinks that, like, why would this guy ask me to suck his dick?
	What if he just fucked another girl before?
	It's kind of different, though.
	It's a little bit different.
	It's a little different.
	A lot of people are like, it's like a bit of a bad.
	I mean, because you guys have a hole.
	It's like an open womb.
	I mean, a guy could be an inverse hole.
	I mean, a guy could be an inverse hole.
	Dicks are pretty much just standard.
	They don't have smegma, though.
	Wait, what do you pee out of?
	No, dicks are unstable.
	What do you pee out of?
	My dick.
	Pizza?
	The uretha.
	The uretha.
	Yeah.
	That's a hole.
	You're not like.
	Wait, did you go to college?
	Some college drops.
	How'd you do in biology?
	Like in high school?
	I don't remember.
	He did fantastic.
	He did great.
	All right, so I'll answer the question.
	I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
	So that was 2007, 2008.
	Why would you admit that?
	I'm being honest.
	that makes one of us yeah no I just I don't really like it There's some other reasons too.
	There's some other reasons.
	Just not a fan of it.
	You're not a kungalingus.
	I'm not a connalingus.
	I didn't know that was a noun.
	I don't know.
	But no, just not really into it.
	What are you into?
	What?
	You mean sexually?
	Yeah.
	Well, let me stay on connalingus for a little bit.
	Oh, okay.
	I feel like I have to qualify my statement a bit here.
	So, you know, neck hurts the neck a little bit.
	Neck pain.
	Okay, you don't think that's a good idea.
	Just also kind of echoing what Jason was saying.
	Honestly, I don't even do that.
	I don't even do it in relationships, not going to front.
	But like a first-time thing, like first time meeting her, it's an L if you do that.
	Because if she's fucking another, like, look, we guys, we guys, we know it's 2022.
	People are just fucking.
	Like, people are sleeping with multiple partners at the same time.
	I would not feel comfortable.
	Frankly, let me not sugarcoat it.
	I would feel disgusted going down on a girl who just got fucked by another guy yesterday and he came inside her.
	To me, that would just be like gross.
	You don't like marinated nut?
	Nah.
	That's fucking disgusting.
	There's protein in there.
	I don't care the fucking nutritional makeup.
	I don't care if it's the fountain of youth.
	I mean, actually, there are some men that are into like sloppy seconds.
	Like, they'll just like, you know, eat it right afterwards.
	They're like, ooh, dude.
	I don't know.
	I don't think cum tastes that good.
	I think y'all are speaking on like exceptions to rule.
	I don't think so.
	Guys are not like stoked to be like, all right, I'm going to have a fucking meal now from the dude she banged the other day before.
	Even if it's my first time with a girl, like, yeah, it's just, and there's no even like expectation at that point of any sort of loyalty.
	It's just, I don't want to do it.
	In fact, if a girl's with another guy, I don't want really anything to do with her at all.
	So I don't want to fuck.
	Even if we use a rubber, I don't want to kiss.
	I don't want to make out.
	I don't want to do anything.
	It's a rap.
	First date, like first date.
	If I know that you're seeing another dude, there's another dude the weekend before, it's a rap.
	And by the way, I want to make something clear.
	I don't have a double standard on this.
	A girl can have the exact same standard.
	If she wants a guy to come to her proper single and not be like fucking a whole bunch of girls, totally fine.
	I think that's totally fine.
	But speaking for me, yeah, if a girl is hooking up with another guy, sometimes they're hooking up with multiple other guys, whether it or, I don't know.
	I don't know if I have a time period set.
	Like, oh, it has to have been a month or some shit.
	Maybe I should start a quarter.
	It needs to be a quarter, three months.
	I don't know.
	But that's maybe a bit excessive.
	I don't know.
	So I have a question.
	How would you know?
	Like, what if she, like, what if you went down on someone and like she lied to you before and was like, oh no, I'm proper single.
	Like, I haven't done anything in a while.
	She went down on someone?
	Yeah, but she did go down on someone, but she lied to you and then you do it with her and like and you found out.
	What if like it was the best night of your life, but then you found out that she was doing it to someone else?
	The best sex?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I know what I'm doing, so like I can have great sex with, give me like a virgin, I can have great sex with a girl who's a virgin.
	Okay.
	So like how would you like know the difference?
	Like how would you like how can you tell that like a girl has like done it like the weekend before?
	Like the only way you can know is if she told you, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean she can tell me.
	I mean there's other sort of indicators that you can sort of you can look at or suss out to see like her degree of promiscuity.
	But some girls are fucking great liars.
	So I mean men too yeah men men are gonna lie about that women are gonna lie about that sort of stuff.
	So it's mostly a mental thing right like it's not actually like a fear of like physically like coming into contact with like some other dude's bodily fluids because if it's been over a day realistically I think I'd be thoroughly terrified if I mean men are just naturally territorial.
	Men are like is it natural?
	But sorry, what was the question?
	Oh no, because if it's been over 24 hours, let's say she's had like a good like a thorough shower, right?
	I mean realistically, is there any risk?
	That shit lingers more than 24 hours.
	Come on.
	Well, there's like a moment.
	I'll be honest, for me, it is kind of mental.
	What is it mental for a week?
	Yeah.
	Well, okay, so for the 24 hours thing, unless she's like douching, which is not good, like my understanding is that's not recommended for the health down there.
	But that shit lingers.
	And it changes the pH balance.
	Like, come on.
	Well, all that aside, like you mentioned, you also don't like eating pussy because your neck hurts.
	Yeah, that's not.
	My jaws hurt too.
	You know that?
	Sacrifices.
	Sacrifices.
	So would you be willing to sacrifice your neck if a girl would be willing to sacrifice her jaw?
	No.
	Why not?
	Because men don't have to do so much shit to get sex from you to begin with.
	So it's kind of like once we get to that point, it's like, we earned it already.
	You know?
	No.
	Then why do men say that girls are easy if you have to do so much talk to you?
	I'll answer that.
	So everyone has different things that they like and different sexual preferences and different boundaries.
	There might be something that is a no-go for me, but is a go for you.
	Now, could a girl like retributively, did I say that right?
	Retribution?
	I don't know.
	Could be like, well, if you're not going to go down on me, I'm not going to go down on you.
	And that's your call, right?
	I don't think that that necessarily has to be the case because we all have different boundaries and different preferences.
	So for example, some girls might not, I might really like not receiving anal sex, but I might really like having anal sex with a girl.
	She might not be down for that.
	And I have to accept that and say, hey, that's totally fine.
	And that's your boundary.
	That's your preference.
	I enjoy it, but you don't.
	That's okay.
	Absolutely.
	I just wanted to make sure, like, as long as you're not expecting a lot of head, if you're not down to give head, I feel like that's a very fair boundary.
	Yeah, I never expect it.
	Like, I never demand it.
	I find most women are kind of down for it.
	We like it.
	They're down for it.
	I have had some women say, well, if you're not going to reciprocate or whatever, then I'm not really feeling it.
	That's fine.
	But I mean, I make up for it in other ways.
	Well, because I make sure my girl comes before I come.
	So we're going to bust out the toys, hands, gamer fingers, you know what I'm talking about?
	The toys.
	Toys, for sure.
	You're not intimidated by using toys?
	No, not at all.
	Green flash.
	Makes my job easier.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Okay, we like to hear that.
	No, but, but yeah, but hands like always, like always make some girls, the orgasm response between women is varies quite widely, but.
	But I mean, I'm going to give it the old college try every time.
	And most of the time, yeah, they're going to come before I come.
	So, yeah, that's kind of my – I don't go down on girls, but I'll make you come.
	It's a trade-off, you know.
	It's a good trade.
	It's a give and take.
	And as long as you give something.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, head, I just, I never really enjoyed it so much.
	Plus, you know, I got the bad neck.
	So that's my go-to.
	Right, Jason, you got the bad neck?
	My tongue gets fucking like tired.
	It's like, it's like hard.
	I'm so sorry.
	I want to do that for that long.
	How long do you guys expect it to be done?
	Until we come.
	Until we come.
	Wait, Jason, can I convince you to just stop doing it?
	What do you guys think?
	Should he stop doing it?
	No.
	Jason, listen, just hands and toys.
	I'm okay with you.
	Get on some gangster shit.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I mean, like, Jason, don't you guys think you get kind of aroused before you have sex with the guy you really, like, really like, though?
	And you don't really, like, need all that foreplay.
	But it feels good.
	I mean, it feels good, I'm sure, but it's like, can't you come without it if you like are very attracted to the guy?
	No.
	You can never go wrong with a little bit of foreplay.
	Foreplay, best play.
	I'm not saying foreplay is going to help, obviously, but like.
	I think it just depends on like if the guy knows that he's like a fast comer, like if like it's only a few strokes and he's about to come, then I feel like adding in like going down on a girl or a girl going down on a guy would just add more to that sexual experience.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and I feel like for like women, it's like a lot more mental too.
	So foreplay is definitely important for most.
	If it's mental, wouldn't you say though, it's kind of a lot of it's done outside of the bedroom then?
	And you're like feeling attracted to him and comfortable with him.
	And like he's like one of the best guys you could get.
	No, it's like, well, I mean, washing the dishes definitely helps.
	That counts as foreplay as well.
	That gets me riled up.
	But for a lot of women, like kind of making sure they're taken care of, their needs are met during sex, that is foreplay.
	That's really hot.
	Yeah, it also kind of just depends on the mood, right?
	Like if I'm like, you know, if I'm trying to take a shit and you're going and you're like, let's do it.
	I want to be like, dude, like, you know, you know, like, gradually put me in.
	Like, I really, like, I love you.
	Let's do it.
	But, like, wait?
	I'm like, get me into the right mental spot, and then we can do it.
	Yo, shout out to Rolo Tomasi in the chat, The Rational Male.
	Check out his book, The Irrational Male.
	Anyways, so yeah, I haven't gone down on the girl since the Bush administration.
	So that's 2007, 2008, I think.
	Red flag.
	Is that a red flag for you guys, though?
	That's a red flag.
	That is a red flag.
	Red flag.
	Red flag.
	Hey, totally fine.
	If I eat more than me.
	That's a red flag.
	If you eat more pussy than me?
	Yeah, that's a red flag for me.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, just the neck problems, guys.
	I got neck problems.
	What can I say?
	It makes it hard.
	Makes it hard.
	That's also why I almost exclusively want the girl to be on top because back problems, too.
	Are you a pillow princess?
	No.
	You're a pillow princess.
	Okay.
	You said stuff up for that one.
	Listen.
	You can do work from bottom.
	That's true.
	I like the girl on top, me doing work from bottom.
	Okay.
	Do you do like hip busts on the bottom?
	How else does it work?
	I don't know.
	Some guys starfish.
	Yeah.
	Are you a starfish or hip bust?
	No, yes, I do work from the bottom, yes.
	But okay.
	What?
	Maximum, maximum pleasure.
	Okay.
	Finish that.
	So, okay.
	Where was I?
	Okay, so we went around.
	Most of you said that you want to get married, you want to have kids.
	Do you think, because of OnlyFans, that that could present a difficulty in securing long-term commitment or securing a husband, etc.?
	And then also, when it comes to kids, do you think there could be any negative impacts on your children?
	No.
	Well, okay, you have children.
	You have two daughters, right?
	And I think it might be worse for sons, but we've heard stories like where, because young kids, adolescents, whatever in elementary school, they're fucking ruthless.
	So I could see, for example, a scenario where some kids on the playground are bullying Chad and Bartholomew.
	Because those are the names of your future male children.
	You know, the kids are going to be like, yo, I saw your mom.
	I saw her tits.
	Like, da-da-da, like all this shit.
	And he's going to get fucking bullied.
	Is that ever a concern for you guys as far as those of you who have kids or want to have kids?
	Like the other kids could find your OnlyFans.
	And I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying that's a potential, a potentiality that could happen.
	Absolutely.
	And I think it's like our responsibility to raise them because I think a lot of it has to do with how you raise your kids and how you approach them with that topic.
	So for me personally, I might consider homeschool for a few years until they're a little bit older.
	And I would definitely come clean to them about what I've done in the past and just be honest with them and communicate.
	And I think that's the key.
	Homeschool is not a bad idea for a myriad of reasons, but go ahead.
	I'm sorry, can you repeat that question one more time?
	Yeah, well, so you said you want to get married, you want to have kids.
	So it was kind of a multi-part question there.
	Maybe I should have separated it.
	But okay, so do you think it will be diff maybe we should just start with the kids one since we're on that.
	Do you have concerns that when it comes to your future children that you want to have, that it could have some negative consequences on them, the fact that you're on OnlyFans?
	For sure.
	So I feel like there definitely could be negative consequences and that's something that I think about for my future.
	But like what Lucy said, it's all about like how you raise them and be honest with them about it.
	Obviously, if they're like eight years old and they're getting bullied by other eight-year-old kids that they found out that had an OnlyFans, I would rather talk to the parents.
	Like, why does your eight-year-old kid know that I have an OnlyFans and saying that crap to my kid?
	But I just feel like honesty is just the best policy.
	I'm not going to try to hide or be ashamed of what I did in the past for my kids.
	I want to let them know, like, hey, this is the path that I chose.
	It might not have been the right path, and I'm not encouraging you to go onto that path, but I did what I felt like I needed to do to start a family.
	So, I think that's it.
	I mean, for me, I mean, I'm more hesitant on having kids, but if I were to have kids, I mean, I would be honest.
	And, you know, if the kid themselves felt repulsed by it or if they were bullied for it, like, I'm not going to judge them for it.
	Just because, like, you know, societal norms are so strong.
	Like, you don't even know when you are conditioned.
	You don't even know.
	Like, it's really hard to know when you were influenced by what other people are saying and thinking.
	And, like, if they were to say mean things to me or judge me, like, that's their choice.
	I mean, of course I would be hurt.
	I'm human.
	But, like, I think what I would remind my kids, if I had them, would tell them that, like, hey, you know, I am more than just an OF creator.
	I am a human being.
	I am your mother.
	And that does not take away, you know, anything just because I just do OF.
	I'm more than just a creator.
	I weirdly have feelings.
	Before I have you go on this, let me just get caught up on the super chats really quick.
	We have, I can't, Dae Young.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Sending some love to Reina, Tommy, and Tofu.
	Tame.
	Love you, Daeyun.
	All right, we have David Drysdale.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	I'm 22 and going to grad school starting in January.
	Turns out I'm a virgin and never been in a relationship.
	Is it unattractive for a guy to never be in a relationship and the Virgin in End of Virgin 2022?
	We can go around on this really quick.
	So unattractive for a guy to have never, he's 22, keep in mind.
	Unattractive for a guy to never be in a relationship and a virgin.
	No, no, I don't know.
	Let's go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	I fucked a couple of virgins.
	Recently?
	Recently, yeah, even that too.
	But it's just only unattractive if you just kind of cry about being single.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	No, no, absolutely not.
	Like, let us show you a good time.
	I don't think it's unattractive.
	It's only unattractive if you turn it into a pity party for yourself.
	I don't think it's unattractive.
	In fact, I like the show of the ropes.
	I don't think it's unattractive either.
	It's kind of cute at the same time.
	Yeah, I have to agree.
	I don't think it's inherently unattractive to be a virgin.
	In fact, I feel like it can be quite endearing as long as you're like, like, you know, some of you mentioned, not having a pity party about it.
	Absolutely not a deal breaker for me, no.
	All the same.
	Yeah.
	It's kind of fun to like teach you, you know?
	This is all caps.
	Stop the ball.
	Come on, guys.
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	Come on.
	Why do you think it's capable of being a pain?
	I get where you guys are coming from, like a compassionate place, but the pity sex.
	A guy that's 22 and a virgin, he, like, what's crazy is I was a virgin until I was 22.
	Like, it's like kind of a crazy coincidence.
	But it's like, you haven't gotten sex yet because you don't have like the social skills to get it yet.
	And you have to build that up through failing, like with a lot of different kind of girls.
	But it's like you're gonna struggle if you're a virgin to begin with to attract women just because you're gonna kind of lack the social skills typically.
	Because most guys that are like good looking or have social skills, they're having sex.
	So I think we just had a different understanding about what unattractive meant.
	Like, I don't think it's unattractive personality-wise that they think that they're a virgin.
	Maybe there could be other factors that would make them unattractive.
	Yeah, I don't think it's the fact that they're a virgin is unattractive, but like a virgin is inherently like not attractive because otherwise like he would be attracting women and having sex with them.
	Because all guys want to have sex.
	It would be fun to corrupt them, like from a sexual standpoint, too, I think, right?
	I agree.
	I mean, these girls are unicorns.
	I think, but here's, maybe this is the way you're framing it.
	You're thinking of like an attractive guy, but what if he was a virgin?
	I don't know.
	But like most guys who are virgins, you're probably not going to be attracted to them.
	But are they respectful?
	They kind of like.
	That's what's important.
	If they're like an average job.
	A guy being respectful and kind is the most, I'm not saying it's not important.
	It's a lot more than any other traits.
	I was often made fun of.
	Girls don't like practice.
	Personally, I was often made fun of growing up for not having great social skills.
	I was awkward and shy.
	So I have a lot of compassion for men who have those same traits.
	Yeah, a lot of women do.
	What's that term that when politicians they not what's it called?
	They pander.
	Oh, geez.
	Come on, you guys are pandering.
	No, I am 100% not pandering.
	The thing that is we need to discuss here is how like, like, I don't think that being a virgin is a bad thing because you're having the assumption that being a virgin is somehow your fault.
	But like, we have no idea what kind of people you've met.
	You don't know how many relationships that you've been through.
	Like, you can't just assume that you are terrible at every relationship because at the end of the day, if a person is a virgin, we don't actually know what kind of people are like they've actually met.
	You can't just assume they have bad social skills.
	You know, like, I feel like that's a bit of an assumption.
	And I feel like, I mean, I meant social.
	Let me specify social skills with women, like interacting with women.
	They struggle with that typically if they're a virgin.
	Are you really going to want to teach a guy how to fuck you?
	Like you want to teach him?
	That's going to be such a turn off.
	It's not a turnoff.
	Communication is hot.
	I think that maybe the power play involved in that dynamic is kind of sexy, especially for those of us in the room that are more dominant.
	Don't you hear me?
	Well, okay, so let me ask this.
	Who of it, maybe show of hands, who's more dom versus sub?
	are you more okay well there's switch there's switch but like okay there's switches all right yeah I just know the dynamic with a person, you know?
	Okay.
	But I feel like person.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't even mention that.
	I was going to say, there's JOI.
	So, I mean, there's no issue with teaching because we do that kind of already.
	So, what's J-O-I?
	Jerk off instruction.
	Jerk off instructions.
	Learning a lot today.
	I just feel like 22 is still kind of young.
	And if you're still a virgin at 22, that's normal.
	That should be normal.
	What about a 30-year-old virgin?
	Then that could be like different other factors.
	And again, with social skills and talking with women or something like that, you know.
	There is a movement that says that sex is very distracting.
	A lot of fighters don't have sex beforehand.
	So maybe they're just like really focusing on other aspects of it.
	And other aspects of their lives are already fulfilled.
	Also, there's nothing wrong with teaching because teaching is a type of communication.
	And I feel like the number one thing you need to have before you have sex in any way is communication.
	Like communication is the key.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And also, like, every girl gets pleased differently.
	I feel like, in a sense, you kind of have to teach a guy, like, when you first sleep with him, like, how to please you specifically.
	You know?
	Yeah, because every person's different.
	It is, yeah.
	Like all girls are different.
	All girls want different things.
	So like when you have this blank slate, it's like kind of awesome.
	Just like how a lot of guys prefer virgins.
	True.
	Yeah.
	Well, you guys must all be outliers because the vast majority of women don't want to deal with guys who are virgins or sexually inexperienced or don't have the social skills to actually get a girl, get a girlfriend.
	They're not going to have the prerequisite social skills, the skills in the bedroom.
	it's going to be a turnoff like most girls if if they're you guys said your switches some of you like lean dom whatever Most girls are typically submissive in the bedroom.
	So they're not going to want to be like, all right, here, move your hips like this.
	No, no, no, no, correct.
	Nope, you're doing it wrong.
	Like most girls are not, they're going to be turned off by that.
	It's all about communication during sex.
	Because if you can communicate during sex and be like, oh, this feels good.
	I like it like this.
	Then it can open up a whole other can of worms that you can bring into the bedroom.
	Okay, but we've established that you guys are outliers here.
	Most women want men who are come pre-assembled.
	No, but most women are.
	They don't know that we know.
	Most women that we know think the way that we do.
	Well, also, something worse than being a virgin is being a confident guy who thinks he's really good at sex, but it's actually awful.
	Exactly.
	That's true.
	He's like, let me show you.
	And we're like, can't feel like that.
	Like, you don't understand that a virgin might actually be a relief for some of us after meeting a lot of promiscuous men who are assholes and would slut shame us.
	Yeah, and just because you're experienced doesn't mean you're good at sex, for sure.
	Oh, well, I agree with that.
	Let me get the super chat here.
	All right.
	We have.
	We have Z Corp Alpha.
	I think you're the $50 Super Chat.
	I see one of these lovely ladies as a future president, CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
	Have a lovely evening.
	Wow, thank you.
	Okay, Z Corp Alpha.
	Keep it coming, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Great to me, boys.
	So the last super chat guy, just don't tell girls you're a virgin, dude.
	Like, it's just not going to, there's no point in telling girls you're a virgin.
	Are you saying that Z Corp Alpha is a virgin?
	I mean, you said he, no, the other guy.
	Oh, David, this guy.
	I just wanted last advice.
	Just don't tell girls you're a virgin, dude.
	Nope.
	There's no point.
	It is a point.
	It's communicative.
	It's going to hurt you more than it's going to help you.
	Yeah, don't tell me.
	I promise you.
	Yeah, I wouldn't tell girls if you're a virgin.
	You're acting like being a virgin is a flaw.
	I mean, the thing is, I'm not just saying this out of my ass.
	Like, I've watched, like, probably hundreds of girls in interviews talking about this kind of stuff, and the vast majority say they would not want a virgin.
	So this isn't a good idea.
	I'm really sorry that you've got to hear that.
	I mean, I don't mind.
	What do y'all think of men who are virgins?
	Like, if your homie was like, I'm a 22-year-old virgin, would you make fun of him?
	No.
	I wouldn't make fun of you.
	Like, try to help him out.
	I'd try to help you.
	So, did your homies help you out?
	Honestly.
	I gotta get up, take it out.
	To be honest, it wasn't my friend, but it was my brother, I would say.
	He did kind of help me out because it was a friend of my brother.
	That's actually really nice.
	Yeah.
	How did he help you?
	I mean, he just invited me to go hang out with some girls that he knew.
	Like at a party setting or like a bar?
	No, it was literally kind of like a double date type thing.
	Yeah.
	The first time.
	I'm just curious.
	So when we're talking about girls don't like guys who are virgins, are we talking about like hookups or are we talking about like, okay, I'm in a relationship with you and then we're about to have sex for the first time and then you're like, hey, I'm a virgin, by the way.
	No, I would say just in general, like girls typically don't prefer virgins.
	Like this is the first time I've honestly heard like this many girls in a group say that.
	I feel like most of us are probably a little more sexually open than any of us.
	That's true.
	And I mean, I don't really fault if like if the guy lacks social skills or like lacks skills in like having sex because like let's be honest, does society give us enough tools to even know what sex is?
	Like is sex education something that is currently being taught right now?
	Like I don't think people know much.
	I don't think that's people's fault.
	I think the best thing that we can do is to be open and to not judge.
	Yeah.
	I mean in a perfect world that sounds like good on paper, but the world's not perfect, but we can always try.
	I know, but you're not going to just fuck like any guy that's like kind of weird and awkward and like giving you weird vibes.
	No, but I wouldn't think that they're unattractive if they came at me and said, hey, I'm a virgin.
	I wouldn't be like, that's disgusting of you.
	I mean, that would be weird to open with that, but.
	I mean, I'm pretty sure we've all taken someone's virginity in here before.
	And it's like, it wasn't a turnoff.
	And I believe you girls.
	I think you girls are kind of outliers, like, just because of, like, Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
	I mean, it's a good thing for the virgins of the world.
	Yeah.
	What about you guys?
	What do you guys think about a girl who's a virgin at 22?
	No problem.
	Sign me up.
	They said, yeah, okay.
	What about a 30-year-old female virgin?
	Sign me up.
	That's fine.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	So the same thing.
	I would honestly be impressed.
	I'd be like, goddamn, 30 years?
	You know what, I actually, I think over the summertime, I had a little ting with, she was 28 and a virgin.
	That was rare.
	She was also, what, what?
	Why are you shaking your head?
	No, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	What?
	Yeah, no, 28, she's a virgin.
	Knock on front, she's kind of weird.
	She's a little weird, a little out there.
	I was just about to ask why you thought she's a virgin.
	Why I thought she was a virgin.
	Why was she a virgin?
	She told me.
	Oh, why is she a virgin?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, probably on the spectrum.
	Like, terrible social skills.
	Very shy, very introverted.
	So, yeah.
	What about you, Jason?
	Would I take a 30-year-old virgin?
	Yeah, that's no problem.
	Sign us up.
	Yeah, I think it's interesting, though.
	Like, I mean, you guys definitely seem to be outliers on this virgin thing, but I think most women prefer a partner that's more sexually experienced, that has the requisite social skills to not be a virgin.
	I think one difference between men and women, though, is that, I don't know, this is kind of like, just because you guys are outliers on this one, I don't know how big of a shocker this would be, but like, even for a one-night stand, most men would prefer a virgin or someone with a low body count versus a woman who's like, could give you a better night, so to speak.
	We would prefer low body count or a virgin, even for a one-night stand compared to a woman who's got like 30, 40, 50 bodies.
	I mean, power to you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Good for you.
	Anyway.
	I'm not sure why that's controversial.
	I feel like if it was a one-night stand, I wouldn't even care how many people they slept with or if they slept with any at all because I'm never going to see them again after that one night.
	Exactly.
	Pump and dump.
	Like, you're not trying to see them again.
	Like, those things don't matter.
	Brian doesn't even believe in hookups like that.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, you don't like doing hookups.
	Oh, for example, if I'm traveling and like I'm in fucking Amsterdam or whatever and like obviously there's not going to be a continuity.
	I'm just not even, it's not even worth my time to be honest.
	That's like what's the point?
	But yeah.
	I've done it before though.
	But it's just like at this point, it's like, what's the point?
	I don't like hookup culture either.
	Like if I sleep with someone, I don't want it to be just one time.
	I want a continuity.
	Yeah.
	Like, I've never been into just like running through a bunch of girls.
	Yeah.
	I've always preferred like seeing where things go.
	Sometimes it doesn't go anywhere, but if I sleep with someone, I want to continue seeing them.
	For sure.
	Oh, super good.
	I think having sex with someone you are attracted to and you're in love with some of the best sex.
	Oh, for sure.
	Definitely.
	And like, even if your motivation was just sex, you're going to have, I would say, the most consistent sex, the most regular sex, and probably the best sex within a relationship or, you know, with someone that you're consistent with.
	And if, like you said, if you love them, you have an emotional connection, then the sex, I think, is going to be way better.
	Oh, yeah, I definitely agree because being in an open relationship and having so many different people being in and out of me is different.
	Yeah, literally.
	It's very different doing having the person I have a connection with being inside of me.
	And then purely on a physical level, I mean, you've built that comfort, but also they know what you like, you know what they like.
	So you guys got each other wired, like figured out proper.
	It just hips different, you know?
	Word?
	Word?
	Okay, so let's go back to the OnlyFans stuff.
	So you guys said that you want to have get married at some point, have kids.
	Some of you already have kids.
	Congrats.
	So do you think that there's a, I mean, I feel like I'm almost reiterating the question.
	Do you guys acknowledge that because of what you do, because of OnlyFans, that it will be harder for you to potentially find a partner?
	I think we're also outliers just because we make a lot more.
	Like, we have something a lot of people don't, which is freedom.
	And people strive for that all the time.
	And so when you see someone that's passionate, meeting their goals, I think it's really attractive and the right person will come along.
	Anyone else?
	I mean, you'd be surprised again, like, how many guys wouldn't care about us doing OnlyFans.
	I know like the traditional societal norm guy would definitely care a lot, but there's plenty of guys out there who are down for long-term relationships.
	But we're talking marriage and kids here.
	So that is kind of the traditional route.
	Because from what I've heard from a lot of men is for just some short-term fun, maybe even just even a girlfriend, but like long-term commitment, marriage, kids, family, a lot of guys have told me like, I would not, I couldn't do it.
	And I don't know if that's something that you guys have encountered.
	Maybe if you're just matching on Tinder, you would find 99% of guys would be like, no, like I wouldn't marry someone like that.
	But I think a lot of us also have long-term friends that may turn into relationships.
	And I feel like you're more likely to get a marriage and like kids out of something like that where they've known you as a person beyond you as a sex object, you know?
	So they're more likely to do that.
	Yeah, and it definitely kind of depends if both of your kind of like goals intertwine with each other.
	And like, you know, if it like doesn't get in the way, kind of like just like the same like morals and like values as well.
	Like if you guys are kind of on the same page about that stuff, then it really shouldn't matter.
	Yeah, a lot of successful OnlyFans girls that I've met are married or have long-term relationships.
	I mean, it's just the same as wanting a partner that is supportive of your career.
	But how many of these girls, like, because OnlyFans is kind of a bit new.
	I'd say it's kind of come into the public consciousness in the past two or three years.
	How many of them were already married, already in relationships, and they're on there, like that's their primary partner and has been.
	Because you said a lot of OnlyFans girls have long-term partners, are married.
	I mean, they probably met before they started doing sex work.
	I would assume.
	I think it's a mix.
	We've seen proposal photos, you know, like in our group chats and such.
	We do.
	Yeah, engagement celebrations a lot.
	Yeah.
	I'll be surprised.
	Yeah, I think what also happens is that, like, you know, I think for maybe a person who's into traditional norms, they'd be like, oh, that's kind of weird.
	Like, I'm not really into that.
	But, like, you know, I feel like when people see us, they see us as a person before seeing us as an OF creator.
	And I think that really shines out a lot more than what we do.
	At least for me personally, when people meet me, they're like, oh, you play a lot of video games.
	You like reading.
	You love cats.
	Asher, if you're watching this, I love you.
	I love you.
	Is that your cat?
	Yes, I love my cat.
	Like, I feel like, you know, I feel like qualities other than just being an OF creator just pop up a lot more.
	A lot of you, I kind of want to bring it back to something that I had heard earlier before.
	So who was saying that you don't get a lot of sleep because you're working so much?
	Was that you, Rocket Rain?
	Yeah, definitely.
	And is that because in terms of what you're working on, is that you messaging back and forth with men?
	It's not just that.
	It takes a lot more.
	People don't understand how much work goes into this.
	Like, most people don't do well on OnlyFans, right?
	Like most girls, they really don't do well.
	But it takes a lot of time.
	You are interacting.
	Like, you are their therapist, you are the entertainment, but you're also doing a lot of background work, whereas making content, keeping up with it, structuring your business.
	There's a lot of work going on that goes into it.
	Okay.
	You do a lot of writing.
	You become a really good writer when it comes to these things.
	Oh, that's for sure.
	But you.
	You get a lot of attention too.
	Okay.
	From the men, right?
	Okay.
	I'll know where I'm going with that.
	That's my next point.
	Well, okay, so.
	You become pretty.
	Well, generally speaking, but do you think the men that would be willing, that are okay with it, like for example, your fans, I suspect your fans would happily be in relationships with you or date you.
	They're obviously attracted to you.
	They're obviously prepared to pay for your OnlyFans and interact with you.
	And I suspect some of you have, they've maybe pushed for in-person meetings or maybe you've received proposals from some of them.
	And so, but would you date a customer?
	Yeah, I'd be open to it.
	Because I've spoken to a lot of strippers and they've said I would never date a customer.
	I'd never different.
	Because you like, and you used to strip, right?
	So you said that's different.
	But so, like, would you date a customer?
	And maybe you can weigh in on what your ex-co-workers thought on that.
	Well, sure, a lot of strippers, we had regulars, right?
	But you don't generally develop an intimate relationship the way you might on OnlyFans, I would say.
	But it varies.
	It varies.
	I just think that there's more men who get on OnlyFans for that personal connection and interaction than maybe men who go to strip clubs.
	A lot of guys who go to strip clubs are just looking for a fun night or just want, just want attention, and that's it.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	But so you said though when it came to stripping you never found a guy who was a customer like you wouldn't date a customer?
	No, well no I didn't find anyone I was interested in but I will say maybe if I had done it for longer it would have been different.
	Okay.
	Because isn't there some component of these guys are tricking on you?
	Like.
	So you're just like you've put them in the customer category, even if they were attractive or whatever.
	Decent, decent men you're like.
	You're a customer like, is there something unattractive about a man who would pay for your attention?
	Your attention?
	Not inherently and I did know some girls who dated customers I think that there's.
	Actually there could be something endearing about a man caring about you enough to spend that much money on you.
	Right, that's the microphone down just slightly, of course yeah, but yeah, there's something.
	There's something endearing about a man wanting to spend that much money on you.
	That's a real sacrifice.
	So I feel like it.
	Oh, for a lot of women, it shows that they really care about you and that feels good.
	I would kind of disagree, just because a lot of my fans also spend a ton on a lot of other girls and I don't want to say I would never date a fan because the right one might come along and there's a lot of sweet ones, as we all know but just the fact that they're spending on other girls and also they, they saw you as sex object first right, like they were attracted to your nudes first, and it's really hard to get to know my personality through only fans?
	Oh yeah true, so just for that, I would be kind of wary in dating fans.
	So actually my pastive relationships were fans.
	So yeah, okay.
	So I before I did only fans, I did Twitch, so I would just, you know, play games, play games with them.
	Or were you like a hot tub streamer?
	No, actually not.
	I was Overwatch OG Overwatch, Overwatch one.
	And then it was like my birthday and I was like hey, who wants to celebrate my birthday with me?
	And then a couple of my fans showed up, found out they lived close to me and then we became friends and we're all hung out together and it was just, did you charge them to for the meet and greet?
	No okay, it was just purely friends, because I only enjoyed you were comfortable with that.
	I feel like a lot of girls would not be comfortable okay, and I ubered home, so it shouldn't really follow me okay, actually that is interesting.
	So you mentioned that you're your fans.
	They're paying for other girls, only fans.
	If you started dating a guy, hmm well, I'm not even sure if you would date a fan, but like, let's say, you were dating a guy and you found out that he was spending money on other girls, only fans.
	Would you have an issue with that?
	I think it depends but I want to say yes like honestly just be not for the fact that he's looking at other girls or even talking to other girls but the fact that he's spending money on other girls when it's like you should be spending money on Me, you know?
	Like that's the issue I have.
	Like he can watch porn, he can, you know, whatever, but he's paying for someone else's nudes, that like gets to me a little bit.
	Interesting.
	Okay, we'll go around the table on this.
	Would that be an issue if you were dating someone and they were spending money on somebody else's OnlyFans and other girls OnlyFans?
	Yeah, I would kind of have a problem with that.
	Okay.
	I would never date a fan, but if I were to and I found out they were spending money on other girls, it is not a problem for me personally.
	Like, I would probably want to watch it with them.
	Be like, oh, shit, what she's posting is hella hot.
	Oh, shit, that's a really fun position.
	I kind of want to try that.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	I think it's interesting.
	Yeah, I wouldn't mind dating a fan if they were able to separate, you know, if they could do more than just, you know, sexualize me.
	But if I found out that they were subbed to another girl or giving another girl money, I wouldn't really care.
	I would be like, yo, you want to share?
	You want to be a homie?
	It's like sharing like a Netflix subscription.
	Like, I want to join.
	I want to look.
	I mean, I also like women.
	So, like, and also, like, you know, looking at other girls too.
	Sometimes I sub to other girls just because I want to see what they're doing.
	Because, you know, I feel like every creator has something special and I want to look at it because I'm constantly inspired.
	So, like, if I, you know, if my fan is doing that for me, okay, let me look.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Okay, well, you heard me.
	I did data fans.
	Oh, right.
	And so what happened was I asked them, I'm not comfortable with them looking at other girls' content and also like paying for it.
	So I told them, like, hey, whatever you want to see, I will make it for you.
	Or we could make it together.
	Okay.
	Like I mentioned already, like, I prefer open relationships.
	So actually, I don't think I would have to.
	Sorry, tilt the microphone down towards you.
	Yeah, like I said, I prefer open relationships.
	So I think this is an area that I would be open-minded about.
	And also, I always support people supporting sex workers.
	So personally speaking, in an open relationship, I think that I would be okay with both of us being able to do that.
	I may be more reluctant to share my own wealth with that person, though.
	I wouldn't have a problem dating a fan.
	And if they were consuming other girls as OnlyFans products, that's fine with me because it's like ethical consumption.
	And they're going to be watching.
	A lot of guys watch porn.
	I don't think it's like I'm not in the place to just stop them.
	So might as well just have them do something more ethical.
	Oh yeah, I wouldn't have a problem dating a fan either.
	I actually became friends, like pretty good friends with some of my fans.
	As for dating a fan and having them spend money on other girls, I like other girls too.
	So I'm like, hey, honey, can I watch with you?
	Can I throw some money at them too?
	It'll be a bonding experience for me.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	We have a video for us to react to.
	It's from a similar podcast to ours.
	And they sort of were discussing this in one of their, I think it was a recent stream, or maybe it was a while ago, I don't know.
	But he's talking about the difficulty that OnlyFans creators could potentially face in the dating marketplace, in the sexual marketplace, in the marriage marketplace.
	Go ahead, Eric, if you want to pull it up.
	And we want to get your guys' reaction to it.
	Fast money leads to slow problems down the line for women.
	And a lot of the times, you know, getting on OnlyFans, being a stripper, being a dancer, being involved in the sex industry whatsoever, what's going to happen is you're going to get that money quick.
	You're going to get that bag.
	You're going to become successful from a financial perspective.
	But you're going to become very poor from a mating perspective.
	So just understand that your actions do have consequences in the future.
	You can't have it all.
	You want to be a city girl?
	You're going to stay.
	She belongs to the streets.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Women are interested in a man's future.
	Men are interested in a woman's past.
	So I know that you're working with an agency to expunge that stuff, whatever.
	If a guy truly is serious about marrying you, he's going to find out.
	And what's going to happen is one of two things.
	He's going to be either A, okay with it, or B, he's going to say fuck no, and he's going to not take you serious because no guy wants to commit to a woman that gave her goods away for free or for some kind of monetary compensation.
	Like you just like men just have like a serious issue with women that have a past.
	It is what it is.
	Like men are designed.
	Deep down, it's going to burn him.
	It's going to bother him.
	It's going to burn him.
	That's why you look at porn stars.
	Look at Lana Rhodes.
	Look at Mia Khalifa.
	You know what I'm saying?
	They got married.
	Their husbands came in.
	Like, I can accept their past.
	It's okay.
	No big deal.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	What happens?
	A year, two years later, they divorce her.
	Why?
	Because dudes are sending him videos of his wife getting railed every single day, calling him stupid.
	Yo, no one wants to pay full price for a product that other people got for free.
	We're talking about marriage or a serious relationship.
	He's not going to give you his last name or ring.
	He thinks that's what he's doing.
	If he suspects you're a hoe.
	If he suspects.
	Your guys' reaction to that, by the way, that's from the Fresh and Fit podcast.
	You can check them out on YouTube.
	Your reaction to that, we'll start over here.
	Well, I'm not going to be broke when I'm older because I plan to reinvest that money into multiple stocks.
	Oh, no, he said you're going to be good financially, but you're going to be poor from a dating and relationship standpoint.
	No, I think I would be okay.
	I was like, how would you know?
	Have you guys ever thought about having them all react?
	Go ahead.
	I guess he's just assuming that we would care a lot about having a guy being interested in our value, right?
	Like for me, it would be great to have marriage and kids, but it's not a must for sure.
	What's most important to me is to be comfortable and happy for my entire life.
	And I don't need a man to kind of achieve that.
	So yeah, that's kind of my stance.
	I saw you grimacing, so what's your response to that?
	Oh, I enjoy Fashion Frit drama, but I don't necessarily enjoy their podcasts.
	But I mean, what he said is true.
	Like how men think more about women's past and women think more about men's future.
	I think that's pretty understandable.
	And we're going to be poor in the dating aspect of it.
	But honestly, you can find the right person for you that would match you.
	It doesn't have to do with what you do for work or anything like that.
	You can meet someone that would be open about it with you, who can share your interests.
	If I met someone who is as open sexually as I am, and then we come up with our own boundaries and our own rules when it comes to what I do with my work, then a relationship is totally possible that leading into marriage and leading into having a family.
	OF is not like a forever job for me.
	It's not like it's going to dictate my life.
	It's helping me live in it in the moment.
	But it's kind of a forever thing for the guy, though.
	Well, what they, I mean, if he takes it personally like that and cares about shit like that, then I don't think it's not meant to be.
	Yeah.
	But someone else could come along and it would work.
	It would work.
	I think it's kind of cute how he was like, oh, you know, guys are going to break up with you or divorce you because, you know, you sold off your, you know, your goods.
	Like, I would like to tell him, like, okay, so you're assuming that our goods are objects, so therefore you're objectifying us, which means it's your opinion.
	Go ahead and leave.
	You know, go ahead and leave.
	There's probably someone out there that's not judgmental.
	They know, you know, that a woman's value is not from their body.
	I'd rather take that guy, because he's probably smarter, not judgmental, and probably a lot sweeter.
	So, sorry, dude.
	Think better.
	I think it'll definitely be, it's kind of hard to find guys who are okay in the dating world, but I don't think it's completely impossible.
	Don't you think you're like severely limiting like your potential options, though?
	You guys really don't?
	You guys think the majority of men, so 50% or more of men, don't care about it.
	It depends on what you consider to be a limitation.
	I think that earlier Reyna mentioned that it's kind of a filter.
	You're filtering out people you're probably not going to vibe with.
	Personally, I'm fine with that.
	There's way too many fish, bro.
	Yeah, there's a lot of fish.
	There's not a lot of good fish, though.
	There's not a lot of good fish.
	There's a lot of mediocre fish.
	And you guys make a lot of money, too.
	So that's another factor.
	It's like, I can't picture you guys sticking around with like just regular dudes for that long.
	So it's like you're not.
	I don't think that's true.
	No, that's not true.
	Oh, yeah, that's true.
	Because we're also regular girls.
	I mean, but she said she wants an ambitious guy, so it's like...
	It's just nice to have someone ambitious.
	Like, just, you know, keep working with me and then keep working in general.
	Like, everyone's working till they're 62.
	And then apparently that's harder than doing OnlyFans.
	I mean, so you guys are really saying you wouldn't care if a guy makes significantly less money than I'm doing.
	I would not care at all.
	As long as he's not bumming around and doing that.
	No, yeah.
	Let him pursue his passions is different from being a dad.
	So you'll continue doing the OnlyFans while he pursues his art degree.
	I will pay for it.
	You'll pay for it.
	Yeah.
	I have a BA in philosophy.
	He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
	Whatever makes him feel happy and fulfilling.
	And that doesn't have to be with Kabbalism.
	I feel like what you guys are thinking about, it has to do more with your own, like, the guy's ego and stuff.
	Like, guys have to make more money than girls.
	And if a girl makes more money than guys, then it's like a bruise to their family.
	One of the leading predictors of divorce is when a woman that was making less than her husband starts making more than her husband.
	That's one of the leading indicators.
	Talk about with that partner, right?
	Like, and also be like, hey, if I made more money than you, how would you feel about that?
	And you talk about that during the dating phase, too.
	I think most women have a serious issue being the sole breadwinner in relationships.
	You might deal with it for a short period of time, but if he's going to just be the stay-at-home dad in the same way that there are stay-at-home moms, you're going to lose attraction for him.
	If he's just essentially a bum, you're not going to have respect for him.
	Being a stay-at-home dad is not being a bum, though.
	That's the difference, right?
	They're doing a lot of work, just like stay-at-home moms would do a lot of work.
	So I have a question, though.
	I have a question.
	So before you have children with someone, how long would you anticipate being in a relationship with them?
	One year, two years?
	Before having kids?
	Before having children.
	I guess it would depend on when you're in the same relationship, right?
	So for that entire time, before you have children, where there could be a scenario where he could be a stay-at-home dad.
	There's other ways to contribute.
	Like, for me, like, emotional contribution is a lot, like, the support.
	But also, they do housework, chores.
	They take care of the house.
	I mean, we either have a full eight panel of outliers here, but, I mean.
	And also, it's just like, for a guy to make as much or more than me, that cuts down the population of guys by a lot, right?
	Like, so that's more reason why I'm not expecting him to match me in any way, especially since I'm doing well enough for both of us.
	But off.
	Women really don't spoil men the same way that men spoil women.
	Oh, y'all like that.
	Look, if my man wanted a PS5, right there, Amazon Prime.
	Women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
	My partner does not pay rent.
	I pay all the bills.
	I pay for all the furniture.
	I pay for all the trips.
	I took him with me too.
	Your previous partner.
	Oh, my current partner.
	Oh, your current partner.
	Yeah, and I've been with him for four years.
	Do you respect him?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because a lot of women, if their guy was just you're taking care of all the rent, all the expenses, a lot of women are not going to respect that guy.
	Because he takes care of me emotionally.
	But to be fair, you are outliers in the sense that a lot of you are very high earners.
	So you have the means to support a man, but it sounds good on paper, but I'm just like tips.
	Well, you keep calling us outliers, but you ask us these questions.
	So it's like we're giving these answers, but like the response is like, oh, you guys are outliers.
	So then likely is that?
	How likely is that each of us, like all of us here in the room, are outliers and y'all are not?
	I mean, doesn't it make more sense than maybe y'all?
	I mean, like I said, that's what women our age believe and think.
	I've watched probably hundreds of hours of podcasts of interviewing like thousands.
	Podcasts, podcasts that are pandering to men?
	I think also the income is like a bigger factor than you probably think because out of all those interviews, like how many women are, like they could be good earners, but that there's a difference between being a good earner and being able to completely take care of your partner financially.
	Very true.
	There's definitely a limit there.
	She said she wants an ambitious, successful guy.
	I suppose it could be the case that the rest of you would be fine with.
	I mean, I think all of you guys would want an ambitious, successful guy that makes more than you.
	Like, if your preference.
	Just ambitious with dreams.
	He doesn't have to make more.
	I know what I'm saying.
	If you have the same guy and you can pick A, like, ambitious, or B, like, he's already, like, successful, you're probably going to pick B. Honestly, when it comes to the whole ambition thing, I actually don't think women strictly like ambitious men.
	They like men who have reaped the benefits of their ambition.
	If you're a brokey, ambitious guy, the clock's ticking.
	Your ambition is irrelevant.
	I think that's pretty.
	I feel like if a woman was like that, that's pretty classist because we need to stop thinking that hard work will just get you the money that you want.
	Like, mitocracy is kind of a myth.
	Like, some people can work so damn hard, but still not to get the money that they want.
	And, you know, success doesn't have to look like having a six-figure job.
	It can be being emotionally mature, having people who love you, having a strong support network.
	It doesn't have to look like money.
	I can agree with that.
	And that's why I don't think income matters necessarily.
	Let me ask you guys a question.
	Would you date a guy who's currently living with his parents?
	Yeah.
	I have.
	I have.
	It's expensive out here.
	Howie's going to be a lot of fun.
	Y'all are shocked.
	What is this?
	Those people cannot afford your average apartment.
	I want better for y'all.
	Like, honestly, y'all should have higher standards than that.
	I don't think that sitting home with your parents is like a sin.
	Like it's expensive to rent.
	Like there's so many circumstances that could lead to that.
	And it might not be your fault.
	I also think with COVID, too, a lot of people lost their jobs.
	So it's really tough to get back on your feet.
	And some people had to go back to their parents.
	And it doesn't necessarily mean they're less of a man or they're less worthy of being my partner because of that.
	Okay, so just show of hands.
	Who here would date a guy who's around your age that lives with his parents?
	No?
	Are you the only you two only?
	Wait, sorry, hands again?
	Can I get hands?
	Would date guy.
	No from you.
	No from you, no from you.
	I think it depends on the situation.
	Well, 45-year-old, most 45-year-old men are probably not living with their parents, I imagine.
	I think this is also a big culture difference.
	Because we're from Asian cultures, most people do stay close or with their parents, especially the firstborn.
	Even like in America?
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	My entire family all lives on one street.
	We have six houses on one street where their grandparents are in just one house, so we can all take care of each other.
	Well, you know what?
	And also in certain European countries, that's the case too.
	Like in Italy, for example, people stay with their parents longer.
	And I actually don't think that's a bad thing.
	I think it's a very Western, very American thing for us to, okay, 18, go get out on your own.
	And I think it's kind of unfortunate in the sense that we don't stick around to take care of our parents and whatnot.
	But I'd say generally speaking, in the U.S., in a lot of Western countries, it is sort of looked down upon if, you know, let's say by the time you're 21 or out of college, if you're still living at home.
	I think it's just very unfair to ask us to speak for all people.
	I think we're just giving our own personal beliefs here.
	That's fine.
	That's totally fine.
	I've met a lot of Asian Americans who still live with their parents, even if they're closer to 30.
	Just the best financial, I think it's just one of the best financial routes to do, or like if you just really enjoy having a family around, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that at all.
	I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it.
	You guys mentioned there's financial considerations, and then you could also just be close with your parents and maybe taking care of them, whatever it may be.
	But I would say, generally speaking, if you take the average 25-year-old woman and you ask her, hey, would you want to date a guy who lives with his parents?
	Most of them are going to say no.
	I would not.
	Because he's not independent and he's not all these things.
	Go ahead.
	So, yeah, sorry for interrupting.
	I think the reason why they would say no is because they have no context.
	And then, like, you know, with societal norms, especially in Western countries, yeah, like they would have the assumption, like, oh, if you're staying home with your parents, yeah, there's something wrong with you.
	But, like, you know, context is important.
	And I feel like if the circumstances were known, it would change someone's answer.
	What are the circumstances?
	Well, someone can be staying at home just because maybe the housing market sucks.
	Like, maybe they can't buy a house, but they got like this killer ass income.
	Maybe they're staying with their parents because maybe they just broke up with their spouse or something and they need to stay with someone else to emotionally recuperate.
	Like so many things happen in life.
	It's not just because you're a failure.
	Shit happens.
	And there's also the topic of compounding interest as well, right?
	$2K a month in rent, millions of dollars you could be losing out on.
	Millions.
	Okay, here's another question.
	Here's another question then.
	So, I mean, you say that, right?
	But like, so women don't really care about men's struggles.
	Like, they wait at the finish line and they pick the winners.
	That's how it is.
	That's not how relationships work, though.
	I feel like everyone, no matter how successful they are, are starting with some certain struggle because no one is living a perfect life.
	A successful relationship is about whether you are willing to invest in believing in that person and being with them for every step of the way.
	If I don't have game, if my life isn't set up, if my social skills are lacking, women aren't going to be like, oh, it's okay, Brian.
	Women want men to come pre-assembled.
	If I'm kind of nervous on the first date, it's a fucking rap.
	She's going to say, I'm not feeling the vibe.
	He was a bit nervous.
	So as a guy, you have to come assembled.
	If you don't, the girl's going to fucking curve you and go with someone else.
	No, I highly disagree because why would I expect a man to come all perfectly assembled when I am not perfectly assembled?
	I'm not going to expect some guy to be perfect when I'm not even perfect.
	You need not be perfect, but if you show up to a date with lacking social skills and you're not like, you're nervous or you're kind of like jittery or whatever, she's going to be like, nah, I'm not about it.
	Well, I mean, power to them and they want to do that, but at least when it comes to me, there's a reason why someone would lack social skills.
	Maybe they're traumatized.
	Maybe they didn't have a lot of friends growing up.
	There's a reason for why things are there.
	And like rather than just going away and being like, okay, like I don't want to date you, how about we just find out why?
	And like literally, I feel like a key to a lot of relationships is not having judgment.
	Yeah, it's not a deal breaker, but sorry.
	Oh, go ahead.
	I was going to say it's not a deal breaker, but I can agree with the fact that I would prefer personally someone who's more put together or dominant in leading conversations and such.
	It's just more attractive to me personally.
	But the first would not be a deal breaker.
	Yeah.
	To go back, you said, what you said about like, well, we shouldn't judge people, but it's like, how many guys hit on you in a day and ask you out?
	In a day?
	Yeah.
	Not that often.
	I'm a homebody.
	In the DMs.
	In the TMs.
	Honestly, pretty often, maybe like 20 to 50.
	Out of those 20 or 50, how many do you go out on a date with?
	I mean, first of all, it takes a lot of labor to find out more about each person, know what they're looking for, know who they are in a level.
	And then I have to think about what I'm processing, about how I'm feeling, whether I'm in the mental state to go out with someone.
	Because I'm not going to go out with someone if I'm depressed and I just want to go to sleep, you know?
	For me personally, it would take me a long time.
	I would probably be more selective, not just because I'm judging them.
	I'm probably asking myself, am I right for them?
	Because I'm not going to waste anyone's time.
	And 20 or 50, you have to also understand that we are exposing ourselves to a large group of people every single day.
	If you look at the percentage and the ratio of people who actually know who I am and see who I am versus people who DM me, I think it's pretty normal.
	I mean, but in general, women reject men far more often than they say they pick them.
	So you're obviously making some sort of judgments.
	You're deciphering to some degree.
	I mean, I assume you don't date every single guy that wants to date you.
	Of course.
	So you are sussing out, okay, well, what metrics, like, I want to get the best guy, right?
	I mean, we can all agree we would like to get the best partner we can get.
	So I'm assuming you're looking at either appearance, you're looking at personality, you're looking at any myriad of traits that they might have to determine whether this is someone I'd want to pursue or not.
	Yeah, I think the key that I just want to say is that I think everyone deserves a fair chance.
	And I think that also people need to learn how to actually carry out and enforce the judgments that they lay onto people.
	I mean, it is very, I mean, look, it's impossible to live in a world without judgment, but if you're going to judge something based on a certain quality or value, you may as well do a damn good job.
	It kind of seems like men and women have very different ideas of what success and attractiveness look like for men.
	Like, I actually think men judge each other much more harshly than women judge men because when I speak to other women, the qualities that I hear come up the most when looking for a man are things like kindness, being respectful, being sensitive, being willing to talk about your feelings.
	Have you heard the saying like, stop the cow.
	Have you heard the saying like girls don't know what they want?
	Like.
	I guess.
	That's like they'll say they want, like, they'll say they want the nicer spirit.
	It's usually men that bring up things like wealth and success, talking about other men.
	But okay, you mentioned what were the big ones?
	Kindness?
	Yeah, kindness, being respectful, sensitive, emotional.
	There's no short supply of nice guys, kind guys.
	Sure.
	I'm aware.
	Are women attracted to bad boys?
	Yeah.
	Are any of you attracted to bad boys?
	A scale of bad.
	Like, what kind of bad?
	What do you mean by bad?
	Are we talking like felonious crimes?
	Like, want to be gangsters?
	Like, what's the scale of bad?
	Like, give us credit.
	I forgot to like scan an item at the checkout accident.
	I mean, you know it when you see it.
	There's the bad boys, there's the jerks, there's the assholes, there's the scammers, the criminals, the gangbangers, whatever it may be, right?
	So like Sasuke?
	How the fuck is that?
	The Narto.
	I'm a Dragon Ball Z type of guy.
	So like Vegeta.
	Vegeta.
	Yes, thank you.
	Goku.
	Okay.
	Goku versus Vegeta.
	There we go.
	That's a good one.
	I like that.
	Yeah, but even then, like for me, if I was attracted to like a bad boy persona or whatever, like a guy with that type of personality, I think that the attractive part for me is that he would treat me well and be kind to me and be sweet to me.
	But he would be like bad in other areas of his life or be an asshole to other people.
	I think that women like that because it makes us feel special.
	In the end, it still comes down to wanting to feel respected and treated with kindness.
	I think I would have to disagree with that.
	I would want the man to respect everybody equally and fairly.
	I don't think I would personally try to date a bad boy like that.
	I feel like that's that would just open up a lot of like problems down the line.
	Because maybe he's a little bit disrespectful now, but you don't know how far he would go to be disrespectful down the line.
	Like it could start off with just starting to yell at you or starting to criticize you in certain things and then it can escalate into even bigger things like restricting what you do and all that crap.
	No, I totally agree.
	Like those are red flags for sure.
	But I'm sort of speaking on like maybe like just musing on why women like bad boys.
	It's definitely not because like they like being disrespected.
	Right.
	I think the reason why women like bad boys is because they portray a certain kind of masculinity that is attractive because it seems like bad boys exercise they seem to look like they exercise a certain autonomy that is attractive because I think autonomy is attractive or being independent.
	But I think like when it comes down to it, you know, bad boys, I mean, I mean, there's like the trip of them being like emotionally unavailable and all this sort of things.
	I think really if you're liking somebody that's not kind to you or you know is a bad boy, you have to ask yourself, why are you liking that kind of guy?
	Like no judgment, but I think I know why girls like them because it makes you guys uncertain about your position with him and whether or not he's chosen you as his girl.
	and like why you guys cause like the only way the only way a girl's gonna like know that she like you're not gonna know you have the best guy you can get if like you know you have him by like No.
	I feel like if I already have my person, that's the best person for me already.
	Like, I don't need to look anywhere else.
	I wouldn't have that doubt.
	I heard a saying once that goes something like, if you treat them like dirt, they'll stick to you like mud.
	That's a pretty good saying.
	I mean, what's crazy is you girls can say this stuff, but like for me personally, like, as someone who struggled a lot with dating, as like the nice guy, like, the fucking like good morning text and all that shit, I had a bunch of nice guys.
	Don't fucking send good morning texts, guys.
	It's a fucking ass shit.
	I love a good morning text.
	I love that.
	But the nice guy shit does not work.
	You went for the wrong girls then.
	No, that's not your experience.
	I mean, this is like a sentiment that a lot of guys would share.
	Nice guys finish last.
	But are nice guys entitled?
	Yes.
	I mean, I was like, yeah, I would really like these girls and I would just get.
	Like you were being genuinely nice without expecting reward for your kindness.
	Yeah.
	Then you're just seeing the wrong girls.
	I'm sorry.
	You deserve better.
	You do deserve better.
	Yeah, but how often do you hear, like, because the guys who are jerks or assholes or fuck, not fuckboys, but who are bad boys, whatever, they are exciting to you in a way.
	Whereas the nice guy, you know, button up, regular job, like, he doesn't excite you.
	I don't have time for that.
	I honestly don't.
	I prefer someone that genuinely shows that they care about me and they want to be my partner.
	But when you were younger, when you were younger, for example.
	I think that's true.
	Maybe that's what the age has to do with that.
	Well, yeah, I think as you mature, your inclinations shift.
	But I mean, probably for a one-night stand, though, you're still going to want the bad boy.
	For long-term commitment, you're going to want the nice guy.
	Because here's the thing.
	I wasn't a virgin until I was married.
	When did you get married?
	Like late 20s.
	Late 20s.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	That's pretty wild.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	Wait, hold on.
	Virgin till marriage.
	Yeah.
	And now you're doing OnlyFans.
	That's quite a transition.
	Like, that's quite a.
	Because you're traditional.
	That's very traditional, right?
	Whereas now you're in a fairly non-traditional occupation.
	That's fair.
	I am a lot more stable now.
	You're what?
	I'm a lot more stable now.
	Mentally or financially?
	I think I'm like pretty well mentally.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, I was assuming you're talking.
	Let me ask, since we were talking about the money thing, who should pay on the first date?
	Whoever invited the person out.
	Well, we'll go around the table on this.
	We'll start here.
	Oh, I agree.
	Like, whoever invited the person out or like split the check.
	Oh, whoever put.
	I already said it.
	That's fine.
	Go ahead.
	I agree.
	Whoever invited the person out.
	Maybe I should rephrase it.
	Who should pay?
	The guy or the girl?
	Or sorry?
	We have to choose.
	Yeah, we don't have to.
	Here, just answer the original one.
	My bad.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, split it.
	Okay.
	Whoever wants to pay it more.
	Like, you know, we're Asian.
	So, like, you know, every time you finish eating dinner, there's like people fighting with the wallet.
	They're like, no, no, no, give me the check.
	No, I'll.
	Like, whoever is really just dying to pay the damn bill, go pay the bill.
	Okay, who should pay on the first date?
	Whoever asks them out on the first date.
	If the guy asks me out and he wants to pay, then I'll let him pay.
	But if I ask him, like, hey, let's go out to this restaurant I really want to try, and it's a super expensive restaurant, I'll fucking pay for it because I wanted that restaurant.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I would offer first, but it would make me feel good if he also offers.
	Like, I would still try to win it, but it would make me feel good if you also offered.
	Okay, what about you?
	Closer to Mike?
	Same answers as Motis.
	Okay, so you would.
	What?
	Oh, um.
	Sorry, my brain's kind of foggy right now.
	It's kind of late.
	Well, it's either split or whoever.
	I would offer it first, and then it could be split, but if he wants to completely cover for it, then he can cover for it.
	Okay.
	I think it's classy for men to offer.
	At least offer you.
	I mean, personally, I don't really think about like, like, like, I don't really think about like whether like, oh, like, who should pay this or that?
	Like, if I'm paying the dinner, it's because me, Tofu, wants to pay the dinner, because that is something Tofu would do.
	It's part of like who I am.
	Well, your name's Tofu, or is that your username?
	It's my username.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait.
	Are you Uwu Tofu?
	Yes, that is me.
	Uhuh.
	Yeah.
	Ulu.
	So cute.
	Wait, so you said it's in, what was the term you used?
	It's nice if the guy.
	It's classy if the guy offers.
	I think it shows good manners, but I might counteroffer.
	Yeah.
	I don't think they should have to pay.
	Okay, so the reason I asked these two questions, would you date a guy who lives with his parents and would you date, or who should pay on the first date, it kind of brings us back to the conversation we were having about finances and money, right?
	And so a lot of you said whoever asks should pay.
	And again, maybe you guys are outliers on this one.
	Generally speaking, men are overwhelmingly asking women out on first dates.
	And maybe you guys differ there.
	Maybe you guys are taking that initial first step, that initiative.
	But for you to say that whoever asks should pay, you might as well answer the guy should pay because overwhelmingly men de facto are the ones who are asking women out on first dates.
	I mean, if I really like a guy and I want to ask him out, then I would pay.
	You ask guys out?
	Sometimes if I really like them.
	But it's been really long since I've been on a date.
	It's been a minute.
	You're emotionally unavailable.
	Hey, thanks for remembering.
	Yeah.
	But if someone wants to change that, check it out.
	Spicy.
	I will say that I think the whole thing about men having to pay is kind of bullshit.
	I find it really strange that there's this whole thing of like, oh yeah, men paying for the bill or paying for the bill, a masculine trait.
	Or, oh, getting pampered, women trait.
	Like, who decided to make that a thing?
	Like, I don't get it.
	Where's the logic?
	I don't pay on first dates.
	Okay, cool.
	Even if I ask, I'm not paying.
	Okay, yeah.
	I'll pay for my, I'll split the check, or I'll pay for myself.
	She can pay for her food.
	Sorry, I don't do food dates, no food dates.
	She can pay for her.
	It's kind of rude.
	It's actually something.
	If you ask a girl out and you ask her to split it.
	Well, here.
	So, okay.
	Phrasing is important here.
	So I'm never going to be like, can I take you out?
	I'm going to say, would you want to grab a drink?
	Do you want to grab dinner?
	Now, some girls might still consider that you're asking.
	It's kind of asking, but it's not.
	But you're literally asking that.
	No, but it's different.
	It's the difference between asking someone out and offering to take someone out.
	So I'm saying, hey, do you want to grab a drink?
	Or let's grab a drink, let's grab some food.
	I'm not saying, can I take you to dinner?
	I'm saying, you want to grab a burger?
	You want to grab some food.
	But you're asking someone of the opposite sex that you'd want to hang out with more, right?
	Isn't that a good one?
	Yeah, she can pay for her own food.
	A hangout or to potentially become your girlfriend?
	All of the above?
	Are you trying to differentiate being something more casual versus something formal?
	Is that what you mean?
	Whatever it is I'm looking for, I'm not going to pay for your food on the first date.
	Okay, cool.
	Or drinks.
	Why is that?
	Well, okay, I have a few rare scenarios in which I will pay.
	if i get the sense that she's tradition like very traditional and she's not i can with near certainty i know that she's not someone else then i would pay or well how do you figure out like you know like with bro i have the radar I've got the fucking radar.
	So you would only pay so that traditional women won't get mad at you?
	Because she would get mad if she had to pay, right?
	Well, it's more...
	Okay, so the other scenario that I would pay is if she's in college or something and she's not making money.
	She's like, I'm significantly out earning her.
	But if I'm dating a 30-year-old litigation attorney who's making $200,000 a year, you can afford it.
	That makes sense.
	There's no commitment.
	When was the last time I've dated someone in college?
	I'm trying to think here.
	It doesn't have to be like the exact month or anything.
	What's that?
	It doesn't have to be like the exact month or anything.
	Probably like, I don't know the exact month.
	Within the past six months, I've probably done it, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'd say the majority of women I'm dating are around my age, but like, would I date a girl who's 19, 20, 21?
	Sure.
	So.
	What about you, Jason?
	Right?
	What's the question?
	Same thing, what?
	When was the last time you dated someone that was in college?
	Like, I mean, a week ago.
	Yeah, his ex-little thing was.
	Would you pay on the first date?
	Yeah, I'll pay on the first date.
	Me and Brian got kind of different principles on paying on the first date.
	I don't pay.
	Yeah, I just don't.
	I don't mind.
	See, but the thing is, is like I lose women by doing this because a lot of women do.
	It's either a preference or like we've had women come on the show and they say, yeah, if a guy didn't pay for me, like, you know what?
	I'll pay and then I'll never talk to him again.
	I'll ghost him.
	They'll do that.
	We've had a lot of women say that.
	But it's a principle thing.
	It's a principle.
	Yeah.
	I'm just not going to pay.
	What is the principle on that?
	Well, okay, there's a few.
	So the first one is, who here, here, show of hands, who here believes in gender equality?
	As in, like, does it exist or do we want it?
	Both, I guess?
	Like, those are two different questions, though.
	They're very different.
	As a concept, do you believe in gender equality?
	I believe there should be gender equality, yes.
	It depends, right?
	Because there's a lot of like chivary associated with that.
	So I think he means like true gender equality in every single way, right?
	No, like I wouldn't want that.
	Like I still like some of the traditional facets and I like feeling good and I like feeling cared for whenever I have a partner.
	So total gender equality completely, I wouldn't want that.
	But here's the thing.
	You can't, equality is not a, and speaking of dinners, equality, no pun intended, equality is not a buffet where you get to pick and choose the equality you want and the equality you don't want.
	You either get equality across the board or none at all.
	Wait, so you're saying like our options are total equality or back to like we can't vote?
	I feel like that's very black and white.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Well, actually the way it plays out in today's modern dating marketplace, women actually do have men adhering to their traditional gender roles, but women are not adhering to their traditional gender roles.
	So actually, yes, you guys do, as it currently stands, you do have the best of both worlds.
	But I'm saying that, yes, it should be, it ought to be equality across the board.
	So when someone breaks into our house, you best be getting the gun.
	Or like cockroaches.
	We're both getting the guns.
	I have to kill the cockroaches.
	Yeah, you have to kill the spiders.
	No.
	You have to kill the spiders.
	No.
	No, I'll do that shit.
	I'll kill the spiders.
	Skies have to wear thongs.
	Fuck that.
	And then they have to carry children using science.
	What do you guys have?
	No, absolutely.
	No, but it's not the tubes tied.
	The main thing, the main thing, I'm being a bit hyperbolic here, but the main thing it comes down to is the financial component of relationships.
	If you want equality, we're going to be financially equal in this relationship.
	Does that include the wage gap, for example?
	I mean, that's been debunked.
	There's no wage gap.
	Can you explain how it was debased?
	Well, you've asserted something exists, so you would have to, you need to present evidence for its existence.
	You just asserted that it was debunked, so I'm asking you, how was it debunked?
	If you're asserting there's an existence of something, it is your duty to argue why it exists.
	It's not my job to prove that it does not exist.
	I would argue that you made a lot of postulations earlier and you didn't cite your sources.
	Whoa, I'm sorry that I didn't.
	I didn't pull up the studies and like.
	Of course, like, we're not going to pull up the studies either.
	You're the one with a laptop.
	Oh, God, hold on.
	You could put that up on OBS.
	Look, I mean, look, you've asserted that the wage is.
	I'm sorry I didn't find a specific source for the wage gap, which is discussed over and over again.
	But you've asserted that it's a big piece of mainstream media apologies.
	You've asserted that it exists.
	The duty is on you to prove it, not me to disprove it.
	Okay, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
	This is riveting, thank you.
	It's very riveting.
	And you tell us to put it away, maybe we could have our sources cited.
	I mean, I think the fact that you're trying to rebuild our argument and asking us to cite our sources.
	I'm not sure.
	You don't need to give me your sources, but you need to articulate what is the wage gap.
	What is the wage gap?
	What is it?
	It's when two people who, a man and a woman, not all the time, but a lot of the time, are doing the same exact job and they're not being paid very well.
	That's a leak.
	Women are making less money than men on average, and even if it's illegal, it's still happening.
	And there's also a lot of factors to this.
	For example, women do a lot of domestic and care work that is unpaid, which adds to that.
	If your husband...
	That's the assertion.
	If you're a stay-at-home mom and your husband is out working, providing for the family, it's not really like unpaid labor because your husband's out there working, providing for the family.
	The house, the food.
	Obviously, we're outliers, so I don't know how else to describe it.
	I mean, there is a gap between how much money men make and how much money women make.
	It's not just the same jobs either.
	It's also that men are more likely to get higher-paying jobs than women, and it's not because women are incompetent.
	Can I deflect a conversation quickly?
	What are the inequalities for male?
	I would love to hear.
	Well, you're changing gears pretty quick.
	I would like to stay on the wage gap thing for you.
	I'm thinking about what Reina is asking, actually.
	Same.
	Detail.
	Well, we should stick on the wage gap.
	I'd be happy to get to that, but I would like to, before shifting on to another topic, we could talk about the wage gap for a little bit.
	So what is the numerical.
	Do you know what the number is for the wage gap?
	It's often like you hear 80.
	It was like 70%.
	My data is very old.
	This was the last time.
	70% was.
	The last time I saw a source for this was 2006.
	Yeah, the study they pulled that from literally took just average working women and their pay versus or that the median It took all the men working in the U.S. and all the women working in the U.S. and compared it like that.
	They didn't take into consideration hours worked, part-time or full-time, the kind of job that they're doing.
	There's so many factors when analyzing something like this.
	I don't think that's fair.
	I think it should be more.
	If there was a study that showed exact salary on the same exact profession, I think that'd be fine.
	Because there are professions where women dominate and male don't dominate.
	Yeah, well, I mean, there's just differences in the career paths that both men and women go to.
	But when you control for all the factors that you can control for, the gap shrinks to like its one cent difference.
	For every single job in the whole wide world, I'm there's been a lot of studies done on it, and they found there's like there's, I think it was 19 different factors that predict a person's income.
	And discrimination is a small percentage, but it is.
	So what are these other factors?
	I mean, like, things women like to do.
	Like, why would like, like, most women typically aren't going to want to work 80 hours a week, have no personal life, and dedicate 30 years to working as like a CEO.
	Like, most women just won't want to do that.
	I think the wage gap that we're talking about is being paid less for the same job.
	I don't think it's.
	That's illegal.
	And if that's happening, then that's what you guys are saying.
	You have to take action.
	It's much nicer if people, if there was a culture where we are more transparent with our salary, that's fine.
	But no one's going to admit they're paying a lot more and admit that they're doing a crime, right?
	I mean, but honestly, like saying what the same work is is hard.
	Of course.
	Yeah, because you can say you have the same job, but it's more difficult to say if they're doing the same work or not.
	My point is that these studies are inconclusive and they're not great studies because we don't actually look at the root of the problem.
	The wage gap is really just defined as different salaries, sorry, different salaries on the same exact job.
	I know there's a recent study where Google thought that this might be happening, so they audited all their employee pay and they had to end up paying men like millions of dollars.
	Yeah, Google was overpaying women.
	And actually, what the recent data shows is that single, unmarried, childless women actually out-earn their male counterparts.
	It's like 117%.
	Sorry, it's I don't know the exact number, but men and women end up making different choices.
	But if you look at childless, never-married women, they out-earn their male counterparts.
	It's not a difference between men and women.
	It's a difference between fathers and mothers.
	I think we can still call that a wage gap, though.
	We're not accounting for things like how women are exploring.
	The issue I have with the wage gap is it comes from a place of assuming that it's because men are sexist that there is a wage gap.
	And that's just false.
	I don't think that that's necessarily true because that's just oversimplifying the issue.
	I mean, but the issue is oversimplified, though.
	A lot of girls are out here protesting like STEM is a field where you can earn a lot of money.
	There's not as many women in STEM.
	Or is it because women are not socialized?
	I know how many guys, I mean, how many girls are with you in your STEM classes, though?
	Not a lot.
	Probably like a third.
	But why do you think that's the same thing?
	In societies that are the most equal, if you look at Sweden, you look at Norway, you look at Denmark, these are societies that have gone above and beyond to try to create equality in their societies.
	You actually start to see a greater divergence in terms of men going in a certain direction and women going a certain direction.
	When you give people the most amount of equality, they actually, there are differences, shocker.
	There's differences in what people choose to pursue.
	So we must consider.
	But just on the STEM thing, really quick, is like, yeah, men have, generally speaking, have a greater interest in those sort of fields.
	But do you think that's just inherent?
	I mean, where does that come from?
	I think it's inherent.
	No, no, because that's what the Scandinavian countries thought: if we can apply enough social pressure to men and women to kind of start doing different things, then we should see a trend towards more leveling of STEM and maybe nursing.
	But what you see is more girls are choosing the people jobs and more guys are choosing the STEM jobs.
	So it's going reverse.
	So it's not societal.
	I believe it's more instinctual.
	And also the whole STEM thing, women are outnumbering men in biological sciences, and that's within the STEM field.
	And isn't biological sciences generally paid less than the more techie parts of STEM?
	Well, I mean, you can be a doctor if you've studied most people who are pre-med are studied bias.
	Opportunities-wise.
	Well, okay, let me ask you guys a question.
	So the WNBA earns far less than the NBA.
	Do you think that's justified or unjustified?
	I think that's justified.
	That's a hot take.
	I think it is justified.
	Just because they have a lot more viewers, they're going to bring in a lot more money.
	Okay, I'll go around the.
	What do you think?
	WNBA?
	Here, I got you.
	Should the WNBA be compensated the same as NBA players?
	They're not.
	Let me just.
	They're not, but do you think they should?
	Yes, I feel like they should.
	WNBA women in like batch.
	What is it again?
	NBA?
	Basketball.
	Basketball?
	Basketball.
	Yeah, that thing.
	Sorry, I don't watch a lot of sports.
	It's all good.
	But yeah, they should because they're playing the same profession.
	Okay, and you guys, would you agree with soccer too?
	That's been a conversation that the women's soccer team supposedly doesn't make as much as the men's soccer team.
	Let's stick to the WNBA because that's a different one.
	But did you answer that?
	If the reason why women are being paid less is because there's less viewers, then just paying them more doesn't actually solve the problem.
	The problem is, why is it that people are more interested in watching men's sports and women's sports?
	And I feel like the answer goes back to sexism, which is a cultural construct.
	No.
	People just want to see the absolute best at like people do a certain scale.
	Hold on.
	It's just more entertaining to see the best of the best.
	Eric, can you pull up?
	There's an infographic in the podcast folder.
	It's called Sports Fans.
	Just pull that up because it's related.
	So we'll go around the table.
	We'll continue.
	WNBA, should they be paid as much as their male counterparts in the NBA?
	Okay, so kind of like going with what Tomiya said, like, okay, if it's viewership, but they're not guying as much as guys, why is that?
	Is it because the guys are more entertaining?
	If that's the case, then, like, okay, they're bringing in more.
	Closer to the mic.
	They're bringing in more fans.
	They're bringing in more viewerships.
	If it's the guys, they should get paid more.
	If the girls aren't getting the viewership, it makes sense to me that they don't get paid equally.
	I think it's justified.
	I think the NBA is a lot as far as a far greater organization than the WNBA.
	A lot more people.
	I personally don't watch WNBA, but I'll catch a few NBA games, so I feel like the men.
	I guess the men deserves more in that aspect.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think it is justified because there's going to be disparities in everything.
	They enjoy watching men play sports more, just like they enjoy watching us make porn more.
	So fair.
	That's a good one.
	Fair.
	Yeah, I think it's fair as well.
	I mean, like, even in the way, way past, like, women wasn't even allowed to join Olympics until it was allowed to.
	I mean, it was just like an old-time thing.
	And then, yeah, I mean, like, who gets the most money in OF?
	The hottest people.
	They get more viewership.
	They get more money.
	Okay.
	Eric, can you pull up the infographic?
	All right.
	So this is the share of sports fans in the United States as of May 2022 by gender.
	So on the left, you have the regular blue.
	That's an avid fan.
	Dark blue, casual fan, gray, not a fan at all.
	On the left, you have male.
	On the right, you have female.
	So there's a much higher proportion of men who are avid fans, whereas females, they're just not a fan at all of sports.
	So nothing is preventing women from consuming the WNBA.
	Y'all could.
	But here, okay.
	Besides Brittany Griner, who we should actually talk about momentarily, because there's actually some news on Britney Griner as of today.
	Fucking ridiculous.
	I was meaning to talk about that.
	Name one WNBA player besides Brittany Griner.
	No.
	I don't.
	I'm not into sports.
	Anything?
	Yeah, I'm not a sports fan.
	Well, okay.
	Not a sports fan.
	I could talk about gaming.
	I'm into esports.
	Yeah.
	No, no WNBA players for me.
	Who's Brittany?
	Okay.
	Can you guys name any male NBA players?
	No.
	Come on.
	No, I don't.
	Kobe?
	Bryant?
	Yeah.
	Michael Jordan.
	He does ring a bell.
	Yeah.
	But I'm not into sports.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm sure you all are.
	Brand James, James Hardy, Michael Vick, Reggie Lee.
	Rob Jimes.
	Steph Curry.
	I think that's a football player.
	But anyway, it's a short team.
	Sports in general, unless you were talking about specifically basketball players.
	But okay, so you brought up sports, right?
	What?
	So what?
	I don't think I brought up sports.
	Who?
	I brought up the wage guy.
	Nobody brought up STEM.
	Yeah, you brought up sports.
	No, somebody brought up.
	No, you brought up, like, is it fair for women to get paid less?
	Oh, in the WNBA, okay.
	And then you said, yeah.
	So some of you said it's kind of unjustified.
	Tell you what.
	And here's the crazy thing.
	The NBA actually, what's the term?
	They, there's a term for it.
	They financially.
	Chat, can you help me out?
	Bolster.
	They basically pace for the WNBA to survive.
	There's a term for it.
	It's not coming.
	Subsidize.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, the NBA subsidizes the WNBA.
	So they lose money, the WNBA.
	So tell you what, let's do this.
	I think you guys, all of you, you guys are OnlyFans creators.
	I have onlyfans.com slash whatever.
	I'm a dude.
	Dudes don't really make a lot of money on OnlyFans.
	Are you guys down to subsidize?
	That's actually not necessarily true.
	I know a lot of male creators that make just as much as most of us girls.
	Most of our fans are male fans.
	I've seen one guy who's like with a 0.01%.
	Yeah, literally.
	And we all seen him.
	We've all seen his bits and pieces on TikTok.
	Okay, but there are way more women on OnlyFans than there are men.
	You didn't answer that.
	Men don't make would you subsidize?
	Yeah, will you subsidize the whatever OnlyFans?
	I'm a male.
	I'm on OnlyFans.
	I'm really curious to see what the ratios are for people who are on OnlyFans and like their percentages as well.
	Like there is like a lot less men, right?
	I would assume men earn more.
	Or sorry, excuse me.
	Men earn less.
	Men earn less on OnlyFans, and there's less of them, too.
	Yeah, so it's not impossible that racial proportionally they're doing worse than us.
	Oh, so you're saying because there's less men that but women, I mean, women don't really consume porn like that.
	How does that mean?
	That's in my search history.
	It's definitely because women are more attractive and like people find women hotter in porn.
	I definitely agree that men make way less on average.
	Maybe from gait, if their audience is men, maybe they're making, I would assume most men who are doing OnlyFans, I'd imagine most of their consumers are, most of their fans are other men.
	I would assume.
	No, that's true.
	I mean, it's either most of their fans are gay men or most of their fans are straight men that want to see a lot of different women in a lot of different sex tapes.
	So actually a lot of these straight male OnlyFans creators that are making a lot of money, in a way, they're making a lot of money because they're working with already successful OnlyFans girls who are already making a lot of money who are already famous.
	Or they're doing the gay stuff.
	The gay stuff.
	But okay, you guys down to subsidize the whatever OnlyFans?
	Think of it as a comparison because I think I don't think it's a fair comparison though because a lot of these successful male OnlyFans creators, honestly, they're famous because they're working with women who are already famous.
	Wait, but like why are we-we are subsidizing them.
	I'd be down to subsidize you if you can make me profit in the long run.
	Why would the burden be on us?
	Why wouldn't the burden be on OnlyFans?
	Because the NBA players aren't subsidizing the WNBA at all.
	It's to a degree they not on an individual level, but through the organization.
	Of course, and OnlyFans takes 20% of each of our profits.
	So they are taking it out of us too.
	But why is the burden on us and not on the organization itself?
	I don't think you're going to hear a lot of women on OnlyFans suggesting to the OnlyFans VPs.
	They're paying apples to oranges.
	We got to be fair about it.
	Well, it's kind of a similar comparison insofar as.
	Similar as in forcing NBA players themselves to subsidize for WNBA players?
	That's not fair.
	No, okay, you're right.
	Hopefully that's not a sound.
	On an individual level, you guys should not be subsidizing me.
	But the point is, if OnlyFans was subsidizing their male performers, they're probably going to come for a bigger cut from all of you guys, I would imagine.
	Or the cut that they are getting is going towards.
	But this is a very capitalistic society.
	Like, if we're not happy with it, we could move to a country where men do good in porn.
	It's a current business that respects us better.
	Oh, you're talking about you guys.
	Yeah, like when OnlyFans had that shutdown where they weren't allowing explicit stuff, like there was a human migration.
	Oh, yeah, that was crazy.
	Like, it's not unheard of, and it's not impossible for us to do.
	Right.
	I'm just saying, if you think it's unjustified that the WNBA players don't get paid as much as the NBA players, then we got to subsidize the male OnlyFans porn stars.
	Yeah, but I think that in a way, a lot of us kind of already are subsidizing male creators because they're getting famous off of us getting famous.
	They're making their money by having sex with all of these already well-known OnlyFans girls.
	It's promotion.
	They're getting a lot of porn.
	Like, why do you think there's cross, like, the weekend Ariana Grande, like, sharing the same music?
	I don't know.
	All right, let's get some super chats in.
	Guys, get your last-minute super chats in.
	Oh, actually, we have a question here from Stifler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Let's start.
	Are you pandering?
	What do you want me to do?
	Jump?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Rate your looks, rate your appearance on a scale of one to ten into the mic.
	Oh.
	Closer to the mic, closer to the mic?
	I guess I would just say like a 6.5.
	Okay.
	I think I'm 7 in the U.S., but like a 3 in East Asian countries.
	Wait, you're a set.
	Hold on.
	7 in the U.S.?
	But like a 3 in the East Asian countries.
	3 in the East East country.
	Why do you say that?
	They think I need to be paler, and they think everyone needs to be under 100 pounds.
	And there's definitely a lot of fun.
	I mean, you're beauty fancy.
	Pretty trim.
	Pretty trim.
	When I go back, they think you're fat.
	Welcome to Asian State.
	God damn it.
	Okay.
	I would say 8 out of 10 with room for improvement.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	7 out of 10.
	I'm mid.
	Five.
	Five?
	Okay.
	I think I'm a solid eight in the United States.
	And what are you in Kazakhstan?
	What about Kazakhstan?
	Kazakhstan?
	I would have to know more about Kazakhstani beauty standards.
	Petroleum.
	I mean, they're the number one petroleum exporters in the world.
	They also do bridal kidnappings.
	Oh.
	There's that too.
	What about you, Rocket Reyna?
	I don't think I should answer this question because this is just so relative.
	It really is.
	Well, if a bunch of men, like 100 men, rated you, what on average do you think they would rate you?
	How would I know?
	I mean, just take a guess.
	Why only men?
	Why not women as well?
	I mean, aren't men the ultimate consumers of female beauty?
	So shouldn't they?
	Not necessarily.
	I mean, women buy women beauty.
	I mean, you don't think that males are the ultimate, not the only, the ultimate consumers of female beauty?
	Like, you wouldn't agree with that?
	No, I've taken it.
	That was women too.
	No, man.
	But women trying to be other women.
	Women notice more things about the world.
	I mean, lesbian relationships are kind of like, it's a small percentage.
	I'm literally talking.
	We're talking about it.
	Even heterosexual women, I think, notice more things about other women's appearances than men tend to do.
	Men are not as attentive.
	Oh, no, I'm talking like, I mean, you guys are OF girls.
	Like, who are the ones consuming your content?
	It's men.
	Yeah.
	But OF isn't the standardized, like, you know, be all, end-all of what people are looking in the world.
	It's a small percentage.
	Yeah.
	It's like marketing, too.
	Like, even big girls make a lot of, like, a lot of fucking money.
	Even more than me.
	Do you want to rate yourself?
	No.
	Sorry.
	Oh.
	Well, I feel like in California, I'm a solid, like, six out of ten, but in Ohio, probably 10 out of 10.
	You a 10 out of 10.
	She's in Ohio 10.
	Okay.
	What about you, Jason?
	I give myself like a six.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I give myself like six, six point nine on a good day.
	On a good day, you know.
	All right, let's get these super chats.
	So we have Urahana.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Hi, really big fan here.
	Opinions on making out after oral.
	I definitely have opinions on this.
	Can I say hi to that person?
	Sure, go ahead.
	Hi, Jasper.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Mercy Buku.
	All right.
	We'll start over here.
	Thoughts on making out after oral?
	Oh, I love it.
	You know, I like to taste myself.
	I think I taste pretty sweet.
	They've known me to me before.
	Facts.
	Okay.
	Rocket Rain, huh?
	I'm perfectly fine with that.
	You heard it here first, folks.
	Go ahead.
	I expect it.
	Okay.
	Not for me.
	Oh, okay.
	Um, definitely for me, because I work so hard when I go down.
	At least, like, some recognition and a kiss, white work.
	And, like, look, you know, if you really want to know your body, you got to taste everything.
	Well, not everything, but like, you know, this stuff is not going to kill you.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I mean, oh, my God.
	Definitely not everything.
	Okay, not everything tastes.
	But, okay, look.
	But, like, literally, if a guy is scared of, like, of the taste of his own cum, that's really funny to me.
	It's really funny.
	Would you guys taste your own cum?
	Wait, hold on.
	Sammy.
	Sammy, thank you for the membership renewal.
	Appreciate it.
	Hell no.
	Yeah, that's a no.
	Hell.
	Have you ever tried?
	But what if it tasted good?
	What if it's like a literal unhealthy?
	What about?
	What's up?
	Does it taste like your own cum?
	No.
	That's what she's asking.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Just like a little, just a little lick.
	Nope.
	Hold on.
	I don't believe this.
	These are the questions you guys want to ask.
	Yes, why not?
	Oh my gosh, chat.
	I think they're lying.
	Hold on.
	Every person I've dated.
	What if it tasted good?
	You never know until you try.
	I mean, like, I've smelt that shit, and that shit don't smell good.
	It doesn't taste the smell.
	It doesn't taste the way that it smells.
	I mean, from what I've heard from girls, it's kind of the fucking consistency that's weird as fuck.
	That shit's fucking globules of.
	Kind of depends on how hydrated you are.
	If it's like thick, then you gotta drink some more water, honey.
	Or you gotta nut more.
	You gotta drink some more water.
	So for me, it's definitely for me.
	Might as well just spit in my mouth while you're at it.
	Wait, here's a question for you.
	Well, actually, I'll let you guys finish if you want, but opinion on making out after oral.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, I prefer it with girls, though.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	Oh, wait, can you...
	So, you prefer...
	I prefer making out after oral with girls.
	With a girl, okay.
	Well, and there's sort of two questions here.
	It's the guy could go down on you.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And then you like making out after that, tasting yourself.
	And then there's also the guy making out with you after you've gone down on him.
	So let me add to this question.
	Also remind me, we got to do the Britney Griner thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So if a guy was like, yo, I'm not really, if a guy didn't want to make out with you after you went down on him, is that?
	Yeah.
	Is that a red flag?
	That's not even a red flag.
	That's just like, no go.
	That's just a no-go.
	I feel like if I'm taking the time out of my day, busting out my jaw, sucking your dick, and then trying to make you come, like, you could at least just fucking kiss me back.
	Here, we'll start with you.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I think it's kind of weird.
	Closer to the mic.
	I think it is kind of weird if they don't like want to kiss me after they eat me out.
	Like maybe they just desire after you go down on the guy.
	And they're like kind of.
	They don't want to kiss you after you've sucked them off.
	Oh, if they don't like their own cum.
	I'm just like, okay.
	Well, even not.
	I just kind of move on.
	It's different, but like.
	I don't mind what they don't, like, what they dislike.
	I don't think it's a red flag.
	If they don't like their own comb, I'm just like, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	It's reasonable.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I don't expect them to.
	It doesn't turn me on.
	So if they want me to, I would, but otherwise I wouldn't try.
	No, but if they just you gave them head, but they kind of had like a sexual hang-up about, like, they didn't want to make out right after you gave them.
	I don't want to either.
	Oh, okay, cool.
	I think you answered right.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I think, like, if I like did a good job, didn't want to do it afterwards, I would, like, a kiss, because I feel like kissing and making out is kind of like a kind of thank you.
	But if they just said thank you and gave me a hug, that'd be nice.
	Like, I like, it's like, just like literally, or like just sing, like, good job.
	I'd like to say, fistbomb.
	Yeah, fistball, baby.
	It has to be like head pat.
	I think this all matters like you're dating the guy or not.
	If you're dating the guy or not, you would expect him to kiss you back because you're in a relationship.
	But if it's like a hookup thing, then yeah, I don't really, I don't think it matters.
	Yeah, or like, you know, you don't have to kiss me, but maybe like comment on my technique.
	Tell me what a good.
	I like feedback.
	I like communication.
	I don't expect them to make out with me, but if it's just on the lips, a simple smack or a kiss on the forehead, that'd be nice.
	I mean, if that's their boundary, then I respect that, but I can't lie.
	I would be disappointed.
	I think I'd be more disappointed if it was like a relationship situation.
	Yeah, if it was a hookup, I mean, whatever.
	Yeah.
	It's their boundary.
	They can do whatever they want.
	I'm not going to force someone to taste their own nut.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	Like, different strokes from different folks, but I have a praise kink, so let me know I did a good job, whether it's like, you know, kissing me on the forehead, like, pulling my hair when you blow my back out.
	Just like give me something.
	Jason, what about you, man?
	I mean, yeah, I wouldn't want to do that.
	I mean, like, who's making out after you just got your dick sucked and came already?
	Like, who makes out after that, honestly?
	Would you give a simple peck on the cheek or on the lips?
	Yeah, I mean, that's fine.
	But okay, let me put it to you this way.
	Let's say it's foreplay.
	Your girlfriend's going down on you, but you're not going to finish in her mouth.
	You're going to fuck her.
	Yeah.
	Why are you laughing at my description?
	I'm going to keep it real.
	I love this story.
	I'm going to keep it real.
	If I didn't finish, I'd probably make out with her.
	But in the back of my mind, I am going to be thinking, like, I got my dick juice in my mouth right now.
	Like, it isn't going to be a good thing.
	Would you shower is your dick not clean?
	No, it's just like a mental thing.
	It's like, I'm not like, it's not like.
	You could shower beforehand and still feel a little.
	Well, you said you'd do it.
	Yeah, I'd do it.
	But I am thinking in the back of my head, like, my dick was just in your mouth and now we're making out.
	Like, it's got to be kind of think about it.
	But what if you just choke her and she goes on top of you and then you just nut?
	But don't kiss her?
	I'm just on horny hours right now.
	She's just saying a whole bunch of sexual scenarios right now.
	I don't even know.
	I don't even wait for what she just asked.
	Okay, so you're saying like if she goes down on you, but you're not going to come that way, she gets on top.
	Okay, well, first down, and then you're like, oh my God, yeah, come on, JB.
	Come on.
	And then you just make out and then she just rides you and then the end.
	No, no makeout.
	No makeup.
	Okay, I'll give you my answer.
	Even if, like, so for sex, she's gone down on me.
	Maybe this is a sexual hang-up.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's a boundary.
	That's a good way to frame it.
	Honestly, I don't like kissing a girl after she's gone down on me.
	Even if I fucking showered right before, I just, I don't like it.
	It's a sex.
	It's a call it a sexual hang-up.
	Yeah, but I just don't like it.
	Yeah, if I didn't have to do it, I probably wouldn't.
	I'm not going to be like, no, in the middle of the moment.
	Like, no.
	No, dude.
	Okay, look, here's the thing.
	So what if she goes in for a kiss with tongue?
	And would you, what if she goes in with a kiss with tongue, would you be like?
	I'm going to be like, I'd be like, no.
	It's okay.
	Well, first I'd probably like one.
	Okay.
	Let's say she's getting on top, right?
	She's just gone down on me.
	Of course, she's getting on top because that's the only position I fucking do, right?
	Yeah.
	Only, here's what I'm going to do, right?
	I'll let you go.
	So, first off, she's not like riding up.
	She's down, like, she's over here on my hair pull, boom, on the side.
	Yeah, I don't like if she's upright when she's riding.
	You don't like looking into each other's eyes or something?
	Gross.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	No, so I'll just be kissing on her neck or like sucking on her earlobe or something like that.
	It would suck everything else.
	Hey, that's against it.
	Everything else, but it is.
	Yeah, little gentle kisses on the neck and in her ear talking, you know.
	Okay.
	It's got hot in here.
	Got a little hot.
	What's that?
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Okay, let's.
	Brittany Griner.
	Brittany Griner.
	Let's pull that up.
	Eric, can you try to just Google the prisoner exchange, Brittany Griner?
	So we exchanged the merchant of death, I think was his name.
	It was the Russian arms dealer for a WNBA player.
	That's the biggest fucking L ever.
	And we have other prisoners in Russia.
	It was a one-to-one exchange.
	WNBA player.
	By the way, she, you know what's fucking crazy?
	She got in trouble for, I don't know if you guys are familiar, Brittany Griner, WNBA player.
	She was in Russia training with Ana for a team or something.
	She got caught with marijuana.
	It's illegal there.
	Funnily enough, it's also, depending on what state you're in, it's illegal here federally, it's illegal.
	So there are people in the U.S. who are sitting in prison for marijuana-related crimes, and we just did a prisoner exchange with Russia for someone who was, look, it was obviously political, but like.
	I didn't even think about that factor, yeah.
	It's crazy.
	I just thought it was an uneven trade to begin with.
	We need to legalize marijuana on the federal level if we're going to do a prisoner exchange with Russia for the merchant of death because her crime was possession of marijuana.
	It's ridiculous.
	I think it was like if she had a cartridge, right?
	Like a vape pen or something.
	Yeah, I mean, it was obviously political because the Ukraine war was going on.
	But like, Eric, can you pull it up?
	Is it pulled up?
	See if you can find a reputable news source on this.
	Just do the Wikipedia page, I guess.
	Go to the Wikipedia, up, up, up.
	Scroll up.
	Yeah, it's the first one, Wikipedia.
	Don't you guys feel like social media should be part of the reasons why we should blame that?
	Because they brought so much news and attention to her being detained in Russia.
	Go to the release.
	Scroll down to the release.
	So yeah, in early 2022, she was arrested for the release of Victor Bout.
	Click on the Victor Bout, Brittany Griner Prisoner Exchange.
	Just up, yeah, there you go.
	Okay, Victor Bout.
	Can you click on Victor Bout?
	Because I'm pretty sure this guy's called the Merchant of Death.
	Yes, I saw that too.
	Can you click on his, yeah.
	So he's Russian, Russian arms dealer.
	Scroll down ever so slightly.
	Bout gained the nicknames the Merchant of Death.
	So, yeah, we traded this guy for a WNBA player, bruv.
	That's a fucking L for the U.S.
	And didn't we have chat?
	Did we have other prisoners in Russia?
	I don't know.
	Anyways, I just thought that was crazy.
	Since we brought Brittany Griner up earlier, that's ridiculous.
	Anyways, did you guys add that?
	Yeah, I feel like social media can be a big blame for that because we made it a big deal here, right?
	When in reality, she knowingly brought, this is my take, my opinion, but she knowingly brought marijuana into a country that has really strict drug laws, knowing the consequences for that.
	But, you know, she's an American and we have to stand by all of Americans as a country.
	Word.
	It's very true.
	Very true.
	All right, let's get these other soup chats here.
	We have Elder Scrolls 333.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
	I appreciate the support.
	Nah, I ain't dissing women.
	That'd be foolish as hell.
	I just wish they didn't do it themselves.
	Wait, what?
	I understood every single word, but not together.
	Nah, I ain't dissing women.
	That'd be foolish as hell.
	I just wish they didn't do it themselves.
	Only one.
	So he's saying that we're dissing ourselves because we post on OnlyFans?
	Do you want to fire shots back at Elder Scrolls 333?
	Is only one like a spot like a SoundCloud artist?
	Because why would they be quoting?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	All right, we have Andrew Tate with the I, what currency is this?
	Is this Filipino?
	Is it Pesos?
	In the Philippines?
	Does anyone know?
	You don't get spanking from nice guys.
	That's not true.
	From Andrew Tate.
	That's not going to ask.
	Nice guys can spank.
	You can ask them and they will ever ask you.
	Nice guys.
	What's the currency in Dubai?
	Because that's where Andrew Tate is.
	So you got to change up your currency there, sir.
	Is it not in Mania?
	Yo, David Doan.
	Doan.
	Wow.
	Do you guys know this guy?
	No, I was just having you pronounce their last name.
	Oh.
	Yo, dude.
	Thank you for the big $100 super chat, man.
	Really appreciate the support.
	We got Shane M with the $10 Super Chat.
	Thank you, man.
	There's a male teacher from my town that had basically exactly the same situation as Brittany Griner and is sitting in a Russian prison for medical marijuana and he wasn't even talked about.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised that they did a one-for-one exchange for that guy.
	Like, that's just, it's ridiculous.
	Obviously, there's, I don't know, it doesn't make any sense to me.
	You can't, like, how are you going to continue to have marijuana federally?
	Is it a Schedule I drug?
	Like, it's just ridiculous.
	I don't even smoke weed, but it's just, I mean, that's just ridiculous.
	Okay, so you had something that you wanted to talk about, if I recall.
	Oh, I was, we were talking about inequality, and so I was just wondering, I just wanted to get into topic, but like, what do you think is when men have that's like unfairness towards men?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, I understand, like, um, the draft, for instance, but I was wondering what other so do you want me to go or do you want to?
	Yeah, yeah, but you can start, yeah.
	I actually have a list.
	Do you want me to read a list?
	I mean, yeah, I would love to hear.
	Normally, I'd like to have this just flow from my brain, but I wrote down a list for this.
	Okay, so you mentioned the draft.
	So, yes, men are the exclusive subjects to military conscription.
	Women are entirely exempt.
	So, men are far more likely to die in war.
	On that note, men throughout all of human existence have been 99.999% of military casualties.
	And you know, I would argue that men, just in the context of warfare, just on this sole grievance, I would say that the suffering men have experienced when it comes to warfare outweighs all of women's collective grievances probably a thousand times over.
	You might not like to hear that, but like I'd encourage all of you to watch All Quiet on the Western Front.
	It's available streaming on Netflix.
	War is brutal in ways you cannot imagine.
	That film cannot even begin to capture the degree to which men have exclusively suffered throughout all of human history.
	And so not to say that women haven't faced their own specifically women, specifically female disadvantages, but war is like on a totally other level.
	Somewhat related to war, men are more likely to have post-traumatic stress disorder.
	Men are more likely to be homeless.
	80% of the homeless are men.
	Of the people who are homeless, men are more likely to be rough sleepers.
	So when women are homeless, they're much more likely to get into shelters.
	They're much more likely to be homeless, but in a car, for example.
	The people that you often see sleeping on the street when it's cold, generally speaking, the vast majority of those are men.
	Men are more...
	Should I keep going?
	Yeah.
	I got more.
	Okay, men are more likely to commit suicide.
	80% of suicides are men.
	Men are more likely to be alcoholics.
	Men are more likely to be drug addicted.
	Men are more likely to be incarcerated.
	Men are more likely to have harsher conditions when incarcerated.
	Men are more likely to be in solitary confinement.
	Men are more likely to receive the death penalty.
	Men are more likely to be prosecuted than women for the same crime.
	Men are more likely to receive harsher punishment than women for the same crime.
	Men are more likely to be the victim of a violent crime.
	Men are more likely to be murdered.
	Men are more likely to be the victim of police misconduct, police brutality, and police killing.
	Men are more likely to be falsely accused of a crime.
	Men are more likely to be victim to a miscarriage of justice.
	Men are more likely to be wrongfully convicted of a crime.
	Men are more likely to be wrongfully executed.
	Men are more likely to work a shitty job.
	Men are more likely to work a dangerous job.
	Men are more likely to get injured at work.
	Men are more likely to die at work, 93%.
	Men are less likely to do well in school.
	Men are less likely to graduate from high school.
	Men are less likely to go to college.
	Men are less likely to receive scholarships.
	Men are less likely to graduate from college.
	Men are more likely to drop out of high school.
	Men are more likely to drop out of college.
	Men are more likely to be divorced by their partner.
	Men are more likely to pay child support.
	Men are more likely to pay alimony.
	Men have fewer social safety nets.
	Men die earlier than women.
	It's about five years.
	I think it's more in some countries.
	Here's a big one.
	Men have their penises mutilated at birth in a vast majority of Western countries.
	It's not all countries, but a lot of Western countries, there's circumcision.
	And there's certainly female genital mutilation in some countries, but male circumcision is much more practiced than female circumcision.
	Men are the exclusive victims of paternity fraud.
	Men have no reproductive rights.
	Men have no abuse or domestic violence shelters.
	Gay men are more likely to be victim of a hate crime.
	Men are less likely to get custody of their children.
	Boys are more likely to die from child maltreatment.
	Boys are more likely to be victims of infanticide.
	Boys are less likely to be adopted.
	Men are more likely to die without having children.
	Men are more likely to die as virgins.
	Men are less likely to reproduce.
	Historically, reproductive success was 17 to 1 in women's favor.
	Men are more likely to be body shamed without any repercussions to the shamer.
	Men are more likely to be body shamed for traits out of their control.
	And men are discriminated against due to diversity quotas.
	That's a fair thing.
	Totally, and I understand that.
	I feel really bad to be a man in this world, I'm not going to lie.
	There's a lot of pains you guys suffer through, but my point being is that women didn't create these, and men created these issues.
	Some of these issues.
	A lot of the issues.
	I think that a lot of this is based on the patriarchy.
	Well, I reject that there's a patriarchy, but you reject that there's a patriarchy.
	I reject that there's a patriarchy, yes.
	Wow.
	But you're also a traditionalist when it comes to dating as well.
	I'm not really a traditionalist because I don't pay for women on dates.
	That's true.
	I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think women are denying a lot.
	A lot of women are denying any of these facts.
	It's true.
	It feels really bad to be a man in this world.
	Absolutely.
	But the thing is that we're advocating for equality.
	We're marching.
	But the thing is that we're fighting for bodily autonomy, for instance, right?
	But yeah, for sure.
	We can take a break and, like, march for not going into the draft, I guess, for a couple minutes.
	That's, the draft has existed since the beginning of this country, and I've never seen, I'm not sure if you're talking about feminists or you're talking about women.
	I've never seen a mass movement of women advocating for there not to be a draft or to equalize the draft.
	I feel like the draft is not a popular opinion.
	Most people don't want a draft.
	There was a huge movement against the draft during the Vietnam War.
	That's for sure, too.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	We still have the draft, and it's still male.
	In 2022, an 18-year-old boy, I should say an 18-year-old man, has to register.
	And also, when it comes to the draft, you might say, well, what's the likelihood that there would be a draft?
	But every 18-year-old man has to register for the selective service.
	And if you don't, technically it's a felony that could be prosecuted.
	There's a $250,000 fine.
	I don't want to, I want to straw man the other, sorry, I want to steel man the other side here.
	Has someone in recent history been prosecuted for not registering for the draft, or not registering for the selective service?
	No, it's not really being prosecuted, but there are other negative consequences if you don't.
	For example, that you won't get, you can't apply for federal loans for college if you aren't registered for the selective service.
	You will be denied certain federal jobs.
	There's a few others that aren't coming to me right now, but there are definitely other disadvantages to the draft.
	Like I just mentioned.
	Absolutely.
	The draft is not a popular opinion.
	Why do you think that only men are drafted?
	Why do I think only men are drafted?
	Probably because men are better soldiers.
	You don't think that that's like a patriarchal idea?
	I mean, I think patriarchy is just the natural way of human survival.
	Well, I think it's a biological reality.
	If you look at physical strength, upper body strength, I mean, I don't imagine that this is going to be a controversial take.
	Men, broadly speaking, have more muscle than women.
	They're stronger, generally speaking, than women.
	Are there some women that are stronger than men?
	Yes, but like generally speaking, men are stronger than women.
	If you believe that's true, then why does it strike you as unfair that only men are drafted?
	I don't understand.
	Why does it?
	Well, you know, the thing is that I think it would be wishful thinking for me to say that we should do away with the draft.
	Because that would create an equality between men and women if just nobody could get drafted.
	But the reality is there could be some scenario where we would need to draft upon people to defend the country, whether that be a threat from Russia, whether that be a threat from China.
	Who knows?
	Threat from fucking aliens?
	I don't know.
	There could be aliens around.
	It's just military budget.
	We have one of the largest, if not the largest, military budget in the whole wide world.
	I'm sure we could round up the weapons or the manpower to do it if people are paid enough.
	We could also only draft able-bodied people regardless of gender, which I think is what feminists and women who advocate for gender equality already believe it and advocate for.
	It's actually in your interest.
	It's not in anybody's interest to do that.
	We're going to have a weak aren't we going to do that?
	Yeah, I don't think there should be a draft, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, that's better than only drafting men.
	Well, I mean, from a pure equality standpoint, I think women should be subject for military conscription.
	But not, that would be equality.
	But women are not in the streets saying, we want equality, we want to be drafted.
	I think it's because when it comes to drafting, people think, oh, you're going to go get drafted?
	Boom.
	Front lines.
	It's over.
	When really drafting could just be like, oh, you're getting drafted?
	Okay, there's another job that you could do.
	Because I don't think every role in the military is purely martial, you know?
	So, honestly, I think that if women were to be drafted, I feel like it's in everyone's best interest to be like, okay, let's look at each person and be like, what are you capable of?
	This role?
	Go to that role.
	I mean, if you're getting drafted, that means some serious shit's going on.
	Yeah, if there's a draft, like sent a diet.
	was usually the front lines right or is it like well the thing is like I mean it's just a biological reality that men are better soldiers Yes, physically stronger.
	Reaction time.
	I mean, they've done a ton of muscle for this.
	They've done a lot of studies on this, like unit cohesion.
	It's just like.
	If you believe that men make better soldiers, why do you believe that women should also be drafted?
	I don't believe it.
	I personally don't.
	Well, because of equality.
	I mean, I'm an egalitarian.
	I believe in gender equality.
	He's kind of pointing out the hypocrisy of women that claim to be fighting for equality that only pick and choose equality that benefits them.
	I think a lot of us would agree with that, though.
	That's why a lot of us don't go for full-on gender equality.
	Exactly.
	And I think that's the issue.
	A lot of people assume that all women want gender equality and all women are feminists just because we're women.
	And that's not necessarily the case.
	I mean, I just mean extreme feminism, like in all the stereotypes.
	They just push that onto everyone.
	I mean, extreme feminists are the loudest in the room always.
	That makes sense.
	But I mean, I forgot if it was you who raised this point that there could be other positions in the military that it might not be a combat role, but that women could contribute towards.
	So I still think, you know, there still would be an inequality there because it probably predominantly, like, if there was a front line, I'd say it would be mostly men that are just being put through the meat grinder of war.
	But I mean, could they help with the war effort?
	Could they be contributing some, you know, I mean, also the way warfare is done now is very different than it was in like World War I, World War II with a trench warfare.
	Like, so it's changed pretty dramatically.
	So, but I mean, we still could, I mean, the country could still use your, basically your essentially your cheap labor.
	But so just to bring it back though You were talking about the patriarchy, right?
	I was just talking about how a lot of the system It's men making men do a lot of these things.
	It's not women making men well, that's not true.
	There is some sort of I'm sorry, what were you thinking?
	Well, you were saying that there's the patriarchy and kind of I went through, I mean, I don't know how it took me three minutes to get through that entire list, that a lot of these, I think you were suggesting that a lot of these things that I was saying is, well, it really sucks.
	It's bad, but men, you have yourselves to blame.
	Is that what I'm getting from that?
	No, what I'm trying to say is that women are on your guys's side.
	Like, I think it's a really sucky thing that, you know, but it's not like the women caused it.
	But it's not clear to me, like.
	Because women aren't the lawmaker.
	Oh, women did not make the decision to draft all men to the army, right?
	Like, we didn't really have that power back then.
	Like, I agree with you, because in this sense, like, a lot of these things exist because of beliefs that women are not perpetuating.
	Like, this idea, for example, that men make better soldiers, therefore only men should be drafted.
	Like, women should be protected and can't be soldiers.
	That's not an idea that women came up with.
	That's a pretty sexist notion.
	Debunking that actually benefits men.
	Biology is sexist, and the military has done extensive studies on this, and men do make better soldiers.
	What is the hypocrisy that you're trying to point out then if you believe that biologically men make better soldiers?
	And why does it bother you then that feminists are not advocating for gender equality in the draft?
	Hold on.
	Do you want the draft or do you not want the draft?
	Like, I'm very confused.
	We make better soldiers, but draft is no good.
	We need, okay, so I. Would it, in an ideal world, should there just be no war?
	Yes.
	However, I realize that there could be some scenario.
	Is warfare terrible?
	Would the draft suck?
	Yes.
	But there could conceivably be scenarios where a draft is required.
	So I'm not really for getting rid of it because if a country can't draft, like, it would open the country up to, I mean, it would just honestly, if it was that bad, there would probably be martial law and they'd just throw people in the military.
	I don't know how that, constitutionally, I don't know how that would work.
	Ultimately, we need a draft because there are threats, there are threats from other countries.
	Okay, so you think the draft is a good idea then?
	I think he's saying that it's a matter of fact.
	It's necessary.
	Men and women are a necessary evil.
	I understand now.
	Yes, a draft is necessary.
	Yeah, it really sucks that you guys potentially have to do something like that.
	It's a huge risk that you guys say.
	Well, look at what happened in Ukraine.
	All of the women were free to leave the country, and all of the men between the ages of 18 to 60 could not leave.
	They could not leave.
	So, you know, it's happening.
	Ukraine is so sad.
	It's a really sad situation.
	It's very sad.
	It's incredibly sad.
	And most of the people are dying are men.
	Actually, I don't want to pull it up because it'd probably get us banned on YouTube, but someone made a compilation video of all these Ukrainian women who went off to fucking Sweden or some other country that was safe, right?
	They're on Tinder in the club partying while their countrymen, it's literally a photo comparison, are dead on the ground with bullet holes in their head.
	That's the difference.
	And there's no feminists when fucking Russia invades.
	Let me tell you that.
	You can't be feminist when Russia is invading your country.
	What does that have to do with feminism?
	I mean, to point out, like, the hypocrisy, like, people, a lot of people have an issue with is like feminists will say, like, oh, we need more women represented in Fortune 500 company CEOs or like Hollywood directors or like in all these like high like paying fields.
	But it's like you don't hear women saying like, oh, we need to even like the amount of like female plumbers there are.
	We need to even the amount of like people working in the fucking power polls and stuff.
	Like they only like argue for the positions that are going to benefit them, but they ignore all the other inequalities.
	That's kind of what like a big problem a lot of people have with feminism.
	I can see that.
	No, I can see that.
	And also I feel like representation is a very like complex subject because there's a strong assumption that if you are represented, you automatically have power.
	But what does that power look like?
	And does that power actually help what's going on?
	Like, you know, for example, like Asian representation is super important in media right now.
	But is Asian representation going to help low-income Asian families?
	Like, is watching crazy rich Asians going to help that?
	So when it comes to like, you know, when it comes to the conversation of feminism and like representation, even in itself, I don't even know if people understand representation as it is.
	I'm personally wholly against caring about representation of what people look like and their ethnic backgrounds.
	Like we need diversity of thought, not people, like where people were born and where their parents were born.
	I just don't focus on that.
	I want to bring it back to the patriarchy thing because you brought that up.
	So can you just kind of reiterate what – so I listed all the things and you said, well, that's because of patriarchy.
	Okay.
	And then.
	Okay.
	So.
	I'm sorry, I was waiting for a question.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	So you're basically saying, well, yes, men have it bad in all these ways, but because other men are doing it to you.
	But it's not clear to me that the mainstream is historically a man signed legislation to make it happen.
	And most women aren't like.
	I think that's a weird example because it's kind of advocating for the draft.
	Like women are not advocating for it.
	They're keeping the draft.
	Like, no, no one's doing that.
	No one's doing that.
	I guarantee you, on both sides of the aisle, whether they're Republican or Democratic politicians, there's not going to be a push anytime soon from any women, whether Republican or Democrat, to be trying to abolish the draft or to equalize the draft between men and women.
	If there was a march to eradicate the draft, I would march in it.
	Like I mentioned earlier, there was a huge push to abolish the draft during the Vietnam War, and it was both men and women who participated.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure if it becomes relevant again, we'll see the same thing happen.
	Okay.
	I would agree on that.
	I would agree on that.
	Because we have nukes.
	We also have nukes.
	Nukes are fun, right?
	Not fun.
	Nukes are pretty powerful.
	I mean, you could argue that nukes are kind of like one of the one of the worst things ever invented.
	But on one hand, it's kind of given us some peace, but on the other hand, it's a pretty substantial existential threat, you know?
	Like mutually assured destruction.
	She said nukes are fun.
	Like Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
	The science is compatible.
	Like, how did man build something like this?
	I'm a big science person.
	Okay, so let's talk about the patriarchy.
	Okay, so what is the patriarchy?
	Well, I'm not here to describe what is the patriarchy.
	I'm desire to display.
	I use patriarchy as a definition to just display, like, we didn't make the draft.
	That's all I'm trying to say with that.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But, like, just because someone is a man doesn't mean they did something because they are a man.
	Just because they did something else doesn't mean they like.
	Just because a man does a bad thing, it doesn't mean he did that because he's a man.
	Or vice versa.
	Of course.
	I think he just happened to be a man in power who made that decision at the time.
	Because people in government were mainly men who wrote that, right?
	Is that what you're trying to say?
	Or I agree with that.
	Well, so you're saying logical sense to have a draft because it's like we built this country and it's like we have to defend it.
	Like if it comes down to it.
	It's absolutely human construction, right?
	Like we defined it.
	It wasn't like cavemen.
	We're going to draft everyone if it came to like, you know, it came.
	mean i would say the reason men are drafted is because of like human history and the cavemen like if women nature yeah if women were the ones hunting and gathering back in the day like you guys would probably be stronger than us now But that's not how nature played out.
	Well, yeah, even before society was really organized as it is today, I mean, people had, there was tribal warfare and shit.
	So, and if you were a dude, here's a spear.
	I think what Reina was maybe trying to say was that, like, the draft is just one example, but some of these policies when they were enacted, maybe, were you trying to say that the politicians were mostly organized?
	It's the politician's blame.
	It's not like a man versus woman issue.
	It's like most of the people.
	We're not focusing on individual men and saying they deserve to do whatever because they're a man.
	I think she was trying to say that the leaders were men at the time.
	Sure.
	What I was trying to say was that these men signed these things into law because they were motivated by ideas of gender that money as well.
	Well, actually, they've done that.
	I would say outdated.
	You know what?
	They actually did an analysis of reigning women and queens and stuff, and they actually found that queens were more likely to go to war than male rulers were, believe it or not.
	What do you mean?
	Like female rulers, like queens, were actually more war-hungry.
	Can we have an example?
	I don't know any of the names of any of the monarchs, but I'm pretty sure you could probably Google it.
	Something like women, female queen, obviously it has to be female queen.
	Queens were more likely to go to war than kings.
	I'm sure on like a proportion.
	Eric, do you want to Google it?
	Should we Google it?
	Like perhaps Cleopatra?
	Yeah, we see chat.
	Bloody Mary, queen's more likely to go to war.
	Can you Google it, Eric?
	There's Queen Natural Marine.
	Just there's something from the University of Chicago.
	There's a study by the University of Chicago, Eric.
	It might be the first one.
	Let me know.
	Do you have it?
	Go ahead.
	Ooh, okay, you're going to have to zoom in.
	Do states experience more peace under female leadership?
	We examine this question in the context of Europe over the 15th to 20th centuries.
	We instrument queenly rule using gender of the firstborn and whether the previous monarchs had a sister.
	We find that polities led by queens participate in war more than polities.
	Polities, I've never heard that one.
	Led by kings.
	Moreover, aggressive participation varied by marital status.
	Single queens were attacked more than single kings.
	However, married queens attacked more than married kings.
	These results suggest that asymmetries and division of labor positioned married queens to be able to pursue more aggressive war policies.
	That's just one example.
	I don't know.
	But it said 39%.
	In the Google thing, it says 39% more likely to engage in war in a given year.
	I didn't know.
	That's very interesting.
	It's intriguing.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, y'all queens just be going at it, going for war.
	But let's just, I want to kind of get back to dating for a little bit and then wrap up.
	But you mentioned patriarchy.
	Do we currently live in the patriarchy?
	I don't know enough about the topic to do.
	Well, we can open it up to the rest of the panel.
	Do you guys think we live in a patriarchy?
	I think we live in capitalism.
	That's true.
	I agree with that.
	Patriarchy is kind of out of the picture for me right now.
	Yeah, women are doing like killing it.
	Not all.
	I mean, we've got women at this table out earning us.
	Yeah.
	And like women are out graduating men at college, so it's like they're doing better in school, like not going to jail as much.
	So it's like women are kind of killing it.
	I think it's like 60-40 in universities.
	I heard it was worse.
	I heard 70-30 have it.
	I guess it depends on the university.
	Anyone?
	I think that we do live in a patriarchy, but patriarchy does not necessarily mean that men have it better.
	I'm pretty sure the patriarchy pretty much fucks over everyone, and we're seeing that in society.
	And it really sucks because I think the patriarchy hurts everyone.
	They fuck over everybody.
	But what is the patriarchy?
	What is that?
	How do you define it?
	So I think how I would define patriarchy is pretty much, I guess, I don't know if it's a policy.
	I guess it's a philosophy that positions men in a higher place of power with certain expectations.
	But it just so happens, I mean, in my opinion, and those expectations actually harm men.
	Okay.
	I would say for me, my definition of patriarchy is that it's this idea or this construction of gender roles that are intended to benefit men.
	Intended to.
	I'm not saying that it always does.
	I think it often hurts men.
	But it's the creation of these gender roles, these boxes and expectations for people based on gender.
	Are we going around right now?
	Sort of, kind of, a little bit.
	Well, I mean, what I've often seen, I think the definition is like a system or society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.
	Or I often hear a society built by men for men.
	I don't think it's always for men.
	I think that's an extremist view.
	So I think I would agree with that definition, but with the caveat that like with like, I guess like, because like power is not like, you know, you get power and it's completely harm-free.
	There are so many stories in media that tell you, hey, this is what happens when you have power.
	It's hard.
	So like, and men suffer from that.
	Yeah, like patriarchal concepts are ingrained into our culture.
	So you mentioned, for example, that men commit suicide at higher rates.
	I think that's an incredibly sad phenomenon, and I think that it's because of patriarchy.
	These expectations, these gendered expectations result in men not being able to talk about their feelings with each other or reach out for emotional support.
	And that results in higher rates of suicide.
	Because the patriarchal definition of power is being independent and not having a support network and thinking that all success comes from the individual, when in reality is a lot of success is made from having a support network.
	I think the patriarchy is kind of what I consider to be the apex fallacy.
	You're looking at a very, very, very small percentage of men who are at the very top and who do probably have a disproportionate amount of power and influence, but you're disregarding like 99% plus of the ordinary man who has absolutely no power.
	And it's just like you're looking at the very top percentage of men.
	Are you defining power based on how much people are suffering?
	I mean, power is like financial, influential, political mainly.
	Because like, I feel like when it comes to the whole, like, because I don't think that saying that a patriarch exists actually, I don't think it actually downplays the pain of like, you know, regular people, like regular men.
	I think that it's evidence that men are suffering.
	Like, you know, back to the suicidal rate, like, I think the patriarchal definition of power is having, like, not, like, having, like, you know, expressing no feelings, being, you know, suffering by yourself, you know, being independent and doing all that.
	But like, I feel like patriarchy established that.
	And I don't know if men established that, but like, that's terrible for me.
	The patriarchy established that, which was intended to serve men.
	Like, the patriarchy isn't a social construct.
	Like, you do realize human beings are almost 300,000 years old.
	And it's like we had to survive for all that time.
	And without technology, without walls and roofs over our heads, and electricity and water.
	It's like there's hundreds of thousands of years of history that you're just kind of not accounting for in why things are the way they are.
	I think it's important to adjust for technology.
	Adjust how?
	Like, how would you say?
	Like, what would adjusting?
	I think it's important to not entirely compare apples to apples with what happened in the past and adjust with different rationale just because we have a lot more advancements right now.
	Where we don't need, like, you're not going to go out and get me a steak, right?
	Like, I mean, like, from a.
	I see what you're saying, like, times are changing and things have advanced, but it's like, I don't believe that humans' biology will change just because a smartphone was invented and we have internet now.
	Like, our core instincts are still based on hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
	Yeah, where people protect each other.
	You were saying something?
	I was going to say that I think the patriarchy has, like, it's not a social construct, but it has very social consequences.
	And that's what I was mainly talking about.
	The thing is, is that I'm still trying to really, because everyone has a different sense of what the patriarchy is.
	It's sort of this nebulous term.
	So, like, what is it?
	What is the patriarchy?
	I think it's a type of philosophy.
	But what is that?
	The philosophy that men are deserving of more power, so therefore men should be granted more power.
	Which men?
	Because very few men have power.
	So the people who make patriarchy is that 0.00001% of men who are exceeding.
	And like, yeah, I would agree that like the patriarchy also fucks over the regular men.
	And like when women say that a patriarchy exists, we are not trying to dismiss the pain of the regular man.
	But so isn't it more a class thing than it is a gender thing?
	Like it's the people in power and like the elites.
	Yeah, like, I mean, it kind of depends on what kind of philosophy that you subscribe to.
	Like your line of thinking is actually somewhat similar to what it would be similar to Marxism.
	Because Marxism would say that, you know, when it comes to, you know, suffering, it's class struggle.
	And like things like gender or whatever is part of the secondary structure, so it's not direct.
	Well, I would say this when it comes to class.
	I would say that a poor man and a poor woman have far more in common than does a rich man and a rich...
	Sorry, I just butchered this.
	Hold on.
	I fucked up.
	It's okay.
	I didn't completely agree.
	I totally agree with you.
	That's very socialist of you.
	No, well, I often hear it said like working class hero.
	No, I often hear it said that a poor black man and a poor white man have far more in common than does a rich white than does a poor black man and a rich black man.
	I see what you're saying.
	Marxist Brian?
	Yeah, so it's like if y'all both got money, then race doesn't matter all of a sudden, basically.
	That's a pretty Marxist take, actually, because, you know, things like race, religion, spirituality, like, when it comes to Marx, he's like, no, that's not the source of struggle.
	It's money.
	Hence, big capitalism.
	Eric, can you pull up the USSR national anthem?
	What?
	We got.
	Oh, no.
	Why not the Communist Manifesto?
	It's a really short reading.
	It's like class solidarity, y'all.
	What the fuck?
	I'd rather have a little unfairness than just everyone getting the same, which never turns out that way.
	But when it comes to patriarchy, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it's not, like, yes, maybe it is men who do occupy some of these higher positions of power, politics, corporations.
	I mean, there's a few reasons why that could be beyond theorized sexism.
	But for example, I don't know if you guys have heard there's this greater male variability theory, which states that men and women on average are equivalent in terms of intelligence.
	However, when you look at the male curve or sort of extremes.
	If you look at the extremes, you have more men with genius IQs than you do have women, but you also have a ton of stup, you have much more stupid, stupid, stupid men than you have stupid, stupid women.
	So on both sides, you have men who are just like insanely high IQs.
	There's more of them than there are women.
	And there's also much more men with insanely low IQs than there are women with insanely low IQs.
	Interesting.
	The average is the same.
	The average is the same.
	It's called the greater male variability hypothesis or theory or something like that.
	Would you guys fuck a feminist?
	Yeah, I'd do it For the class.
	It's really hot, right?
	Just a one-night stand.
	Pussy is pussy.
	I'd fuck an egalitarian, but a feminist, that's.
	I don't know, bro.
	Probably most of the women I see.
	Yeah, very good principles, Brian.
	I gotta give you props.
	I mean, it depends, though, because a lot of women don't even really.
	If you ask a woman, like if you ask two women what feminism means, they'll give you different answers.
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	So like, and a lot of women will just like tokenly identify as feminist and they're just like, oh, I believe in gender equality.
	Well, here's the thing.
	Feminism isn't about hot take of the night.
	Feminism is not an equality movement.
	Yes.
	I agree.
	Feminism is a, in its most charitable sense, it's a woman's advocacy movement.
	It's not an equality movement because, and we've sort of touched on this, where women do not stand to benefit from a type of equality, feminists will not fight for said equality.
	I don't know if I articulated that correctly, but.
	I feel like feminism would actually fight for, hey, is this going to benefit men and women?
	And is it ethical?
	Because like, I guess the tokenizing, I feel like that's not true feminism.
	Because if you're going to tokenize like that, you're going to get a bunch of men getting mad at you.
	And that just ruins the whole purpose.
	Like every, like, I feel like feminism really is an advocate for everyone.
	Everyone.
	Feminism is a women's advocacy movement.
	And there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy or women's rights, but to try to portray feminism as an equality movement is on its face just, it's erroneous.
	I would agree with that, but I feel like feminism is not like, oh yeah, women advocacy, dump men.
	It's more like, we're going to support women and support men.
	It doesn't mean we're going to dump on them.
	It's like, we're helping women, and then helping women also helps the men.
	Everyone wins.
	So I'll just add to that real quick.
	So like in scenarios where women would not stand to benefit from equality, feminists will not pursue said equality.
	And actually, to the contrary, feminists will actually fight to maintain inequality if that inequality comes to the detriment of women.
	That is not feminism to me.
	Or if the inequality benefits women.
	I might have said that wrong.
	Whatever.
	I mean, feminism is already hurting men.
	Like, there's like affirmative action, preferential hiring.
	Like, that's a real thing already.
	Here's another one.
	In Florida, there was a bill that was attempted to get passed where it was for shared custody of children.
	So a presumption, like say there's a divorce, a presumption that it should be 50-50 split custody.
	That to me sounds like equality.
	Both the father and the mother get shared custody.
	It's the default.
	Whereas oftentimes in court systems, custody defaults to the mother.
	In Florida, one of the leading feminist organizations, it's called the National Organization for Women, probably the leading feminist organization in the country, fought against that because it would technically come to the detriment of women to not get primary custody.
	I actually am going through something personal with that.
	I actually think it's terrible that, you know, if...
	Because, like, when women get primary custody, it doesn't allow people to critically think about whether the mother is the suitable parent.
	I think custody should be given to whichever parent is the most healthy for the kids.
	And if you just assume that it's the mother, like that's not fair.
	And if it doesn't benefit, I mean, let's think about the kids here, man.
	Like, it's the kids that are going through this.
	And like, you can have perfectly capable fathers not get custody, and that's not fair.
	And the mother could be abusive.
	I completely agree with your take on that.
	And for a woman to be like, oh, you know, if women don't benefit, if she doesn't get primary custody, that's bullshit.
	The modern-day feminists are actively fighting against that.
	That's not a feminist for me.
	That's a bitch.
	Well, it's kind of like the no-true Scotsman.
	Like, well, that's not my feminism.
	But if you look at the major feminist organizations, they are fighting against a lot of these things that would give or that would bring equality, but they're fighting against it.
	Yeah, that's fucked up.
	Word?
	It's usually the more extreme side of feminism as well.
	Yeah, like that have the loudest voice, like you mentioned earlier.
	Yeah, that's it.
	But okay, but the core tenant, though, of feminism is patriarchy theory.
	That is a core tenant of feminism.
	And by the way, I reject the patriarchy theory.
	It is just that, a theory.
	And theories are not necessarily truth or fact.
	So, I mean, I reject it.
	So.
	I accept the theory, but the way that certain women, if you were saying is correct, have applied it, that's not the way to apply it.
	Because I think the patriarchy exists, but since it does exist, at least in my opinion, I think it hurts everyone.
	And like, I really, I mean, honestly, I really wish that feminism would not be construed as like, oh, you know, women get all the benefits and men just suffer.
	Because if women got all the benefits, that fucks everybody anyway.
	You know?
	I feel like everyone should win.
	Well, I mean, could I potentially challenge you to, instead of defining yourself as a feminist, define yourself as an egalitarian?
	I mean, if anyone here considers themselves a feminist.
	Would you mind looking up a definition of feminism for me?
	I mean, sure, I can Google it.
	Feminism.
	The advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.
	So.
	Equality is kind of.
	I mean, that's kind of what I said, the advocacy of women's rights.
	Equality is kind of an interesting term because there's equality and then there's equity.
	Because equality, for me personally, for me personally, it's kind of tough for me to support it sometimes because it's like, sometimes if you do just equal all the way around, it doesn't allow for critical thinking.
	I don't like equity.
	Yeah, I don't like equity.
	That's what I mean.
	I believe in equality of opportunity, but equality is not.
	But the scary thing is, is our society is trending towards equity.
	That's literally like preferential hiring.
	Literally just trying to force it to be equal.
	And I don't agree with that.
	But could I challenge you guys to consider yourselves egalitarians instead of feminists?
	Sure.
	What sources would you recommend?
	Like, are there any books that you would recommend on egalitarianism?
	Well, I feel like a lot of this stuff is typically either viewed from a male lens or a female lens.
	But I did do an interview with, I mean, he's more like, I'd say he's an egalitarian, but I did an interview with Warren Farrell.
	He used to be a feminist, but now he's more of a male advocate.
	He wrote a book, The Boy Crisis.
	He's been interviewed by Oprah and all these people.
	Yeah, his book, The Boy Crisis, is pretty good.
	The myth of male power.
	There's a whole bunch of books on the topic.
	Sure, I would be glad to read up on it if it gives me more information.
	I think I will say though, I think with the whole labels thing, I think at the end of the day, a label is a generalization.
	I mean, I'm really glad that I got to speak out on what I personally believe.
	If it matches egalitarianism, cool.
	But like, I'm not going to focus so much on labeling and just kind of be more, you know, specific to what I want, to what I support.
	So, yeah, I'll actually look that up.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, we're wow, we really kind of started talking about that.
	That went off on the deep end.
	How do we bring it back to Blowjobs now?
	How do we start talking about it?
	What's your favorite kink?
	Well, it's body count.
	Go.
	Oh.
	Oh, man.
	I was going to ask that.
	Body count?
	Yeah, we can do body count.
	Here, why don't we start with you?
	We'll go around the table.
	I guess 20.
	You guessed 20?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why the hesitation?
	I don't know.
	I'm just so tired.
	Yeah, we're going to wrap soon.
	It's the last show of the year, you know?
	Have a little fun.
	Guys, like seven, including girls, like 30.
	Yeah, I was going to say for guys, it would be six, and then for girls, it would be like 15.
	I lost count after I went to a swinger's party.
	Oh.
	So, yeah, I lost count.
	Range, range.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm trying.
	So, like, okay, one, two, three.
	Including women too.
	See, like, I see, like, honestly, I think before the party, it was kind of like maybe like three or four.
	But then after the party, it's, I don't know, I forgot.
	Wait, and one night you lost track.
	I had a queue.
	You had a queue.
	You had a line?
	Yeah, there was a line.
	In person.
	Was it just you?
	I mean, there's like a few other things.
	There was a queue?
	Yeah, there was a queue.
	They have to like pull numbers.
	Are they naked while they're in the queue or are they clothed while they're in the queue?
	Well, some are shirtless, some are completely naked.
	Like when you go to a swingers' party, it's kind of like you just wear whatever you want.
	I mean, when I say cue, is that like I'll be doing something with certain guys, and then like the other guys would be watching because they like to watch, and then be like, oh, can I now touch you now?
	And I'm like, okay, yeah.
	Like, they take turns.
	Sharing is caring.
	So was it like 10, 20?
	I feel like, see, it depends on what I could do because I only have two hands, one mouth, a lot of holes.
	And like, whatever could be occupied was occupied.
	Wow, there was a queue.
	Yeah.
	So was it like a sausage fest?
	Or is it just like way more dudes or what?
	I think there were more dudes, but there's a decent amount of women too.
	A decent amount of.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	But that was, I only went this one swingers party, so I can't.
	Only one?
	Only one.
	Huh.
	Yeah, I can't really say for all, but it was a very interesting experience.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Not a lot.
	Three.
	Okay.
	Guys and girls or?
	Only guys.
	Only guys, okay.
	I have to say about eight men, and I've lost count of the women, but I'm assuming it's 50 plus.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Nice.
	I'm closer to the mic.
	I don't feel comfortable at all telling my number, but lots of women for sure.
	Do you want to give a range or no?
	No, thank you for respecting that though.
	Let's see.
	Before OF, like, I lost count after 30.
	So, yeah.
	Probably more girls at this point, though.
	Well, she did say she's for the streets already.
	She acknowledged this.
	What about you, Jason?
	What's your body count?
	I'd prefer not to share.
	Why not?
	Did you lost count?
	No, I know exactly how many.
	Is it double digit, single-digit?
	Yeah, I'll say it's double digits.
	That's as much as I'll do.
	So he for the street.
	He's for the street.
	You're doing so much better than me.
	Well, I will say that for me, I think that I think body count matters, so I'm not going to reveal it.
	But if you guys want to guess, that could be interesting if you want to guess my body count.
	28.
	I would say 3.
	3?
	Damn.
	Would you tell us if we got it right?
	Nope.
	Wait, how old are you again?
	33.
	Oh.
	33.
	One for each year.
	One each year.
	11.
	I think you've lost count.
	Maybe two?
	I think you lost count.
	Hello, number, crew.
	Did you guess?
	Do you have a notes app?
	Huh?
	Do you have a notes app of like all the bodies?
	No.
	No, I don't keep track.
	I want to say 10.
	I can neither confirm or deny any of these numbers.
	Before we close.
	I can neither confirm or deny it.
	Derall, thank you for the 18 British pounds.
	Much appreciate it for the last bottle of the year.
	Yeah, thank you, man.
	Guys, we will probably be back early January.
	We're going to take a couple weeks off.
	Clips channel, though, we will be posting a shit ton of clips.
	That's what I'm really going to be doing on this break.
	I need to get caught up.
	I'm like 30 videos behind on the clip, so 30 podcasts behind on the clips.
	So anyways, I want to open it up to you guys.
	Sorry that we've gone a little late here.
	But I do want to open it up to you guys if you guys have a final thought or question or something you want to get off your chest.
	Could be dating related if men are pissing you off in some way when it comes to dating or just anything you want to get off your chest.
	Or if not, no worries.
	Jason, do you want to?
	The girls can go.
	Okay.
	Oh, gentlemen.
	Let's see.
	No final thoughts.
	Like, as of now, I'd say that if you're a cuck, hit me up.
	My DMs are open.
	If you're a cuck, hit you up.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	Love that.
	Oh, God.
	No final thoughts here.
	Oh, no.
	I don't know.
	I just want to say that I am an opinionated but sweet woman, and my DMs are open, and I think that I have a great relationship with men.
	So, you know, shoot your shot.
	To the nice guys, don't give up.
	Stay nice.
	But then also, if you really like the girl, just let her know.
	Go for it.
	For me, I feel like if I were to say anything, I think men need to know that women were not like these evil, conniving, manipulative monsters that are going to destroy you.
	We honestly are also invested in you living your best life, at least for me personally.
	Like, I do not have the time to, like, you know, want people to suffer.
	So, like, you know, if you're out there, you're alone, you don't have friends, you know, you're, you know, you're struggling.
	I hope, at least for me, I'm rooting for you.
	Okay, thanks.
	I think I would say, honestly, that all of us girls here are people with human beings, and we have our own opinions, but we would like to be treated with the same type of respect that you at home would want to be treated as well.
	So please, just be nice overall as a human being.
	Thank you.
	I need more assistance, so taking applications, hit me up.
	What do you mean by assistance?
	You know, camera setup, maybe co-star.
	We'll see.
	Okay.
	For me, it's all love and final time.
	It's the what?
	All love.
	Olives?
	All love.
	Oh, it is all love.
	We love a girl with personality.
	We took some MILF.
	Okay.
	So.
	Did you want final thought?
	Oh, honestly, like, thanks for being on time today, and thanks, Brian, for having us.
	But you guys were pretty chill.
	Like, I looked at your guys' TikToks because Brian sent them to me.
	TikTok is kind of cringe.
	We shouldn't judge us based off of our TikToks because we know it's like you do realize.
	I know, I saw it.
	I can see the tactics.
	Did you like it?
	No, I was honestly like, man, I was feeling bad.
	I was feeling bad for like...
	Not even the cosplay ones.
	I mean, it's just like, I see the advertising strategy you guys are going for.
	And it's like, I recognize it.
	I'm a career woman.
	But it doesn't paint you guys in the best light because you guys are a lot more normal in person than what your TikTok shows.
	For sure.
	Me and Jason were actually having a debate on this because we saw, I think, Rocket Reyna's TikTok.
	We saw your TikTok.
	And we're like 55 and 44.
	We're like, there's no way.
	There's no fucking way.
	But I mean, you guys probably get that anyways, but it's like, I still don't believe it.
	I think it's marketing.
	Well, your theory was that they were trying to pander to like the older gentlemen who have the money.
	It's my theory.
	That's a very interesting variable.
	I don't know, y'all just.
	Why is that a theory when it's just a fact?
	But Asian don't raise it.
	True.
	I know, but 55, like 55, you can start to tell, I feel like.
	My mother's 70.
	She's looking 50.
	Your mom is.
	Yeah, your mom.
	Oh, my God.
	Our age.
	Show us your IDs.
	Here's the thing, though.
	Like, I actually dated a, and maybe it's because she was half white, half white, half Japanese girl, 45.
	She looked good.
	But, like, she also looked 45.
	It's like, you can usually tell the skin a little bit.
	Like, shit, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know.
	It's because she's halfway.
	It's the, yeah.
	What's the saying for white people?
	White?
	Asian?
	No, just like white people for the aging thing.
	Oh, there's none.
	Yeah, we don't agree.
	There's none.
	There it is.
	I'm sorry to say.
	Yeah, we don't.
	I don't know.
	We don't age.
	We don't typically age very gracefully.
	So you know what?
	Let's react to one video and then we'll wrap up.
	And then maybe you touch a little, did we really touch, did everyone get to go around?
	I know we watched that video a while back.
	Did everyone get to give their reaction to the video?
	Because I don't know if everyone did.
	Which one?
	The one, The Fresh and Fit with the guys, and they're like, you know, men want, women want men with a future.
	Men want a woman that don't have a past or something like that.
	Yeah, you showed us that.
	But did everyone get a chance to give their take?
	I wasn't, I don't, like, I wasn't able to give my take.
	Yeah, I think from what I can remember, I was just very confused why he was so concerned, like, what?
	About other people's relationships and what their boundaries and what they're okay with, you know, because everyone's different.
	And it's kind of just like, you know, just because you think it should be one way doesn't mean like it's like that for everyone else.
	Yeah.
	That was just like my take.
	Okay.
	I think it's like a.
	It's a pretty general concern though, because like stats are showing that like a lot more women are gonna end up single and childless, and it's like most women typically find like long-term fulfillment from like kids and having a family.
	So it's it's like it's like a lot of women are going down a path that like leads to like a lot of sadness and loneliness, and it's can you say the same thing for men, though?
	You guys say that men have a higher suicide rate, so don't they have a higher path to sadness and loneliness with the way that they're acting?
	Yeah, I would say men have different avenues to like achieve things for a longer period of time than women do though.
	For what?
	Because men can find satisfaction and just becoming successful.
	And it's like there's no time limit on that really.
	Can't you say the same about women though?
	I mean in general, no.
	I don't think money and like a lifestyle is going to keep most women happy in their old age.
	I'm talking like 65 to like 95.
	Like I don't think like lifestyle and money is going to fulfill you for those 30 years.
	What kind of lifestyle are you talking about specifically?
	I mean just like being single, traveling, like doing like single girl stuff when you're 65 to 90.
	Like I don't think that's going to like make most girls feel like fulfilled for those 30 years.
	Like single girl stuff.
	What do you think single girls do if they're single and older?
	I mean I would imagine they do like stuff young girls do.
	They travel, go out to eat, and it's like, but it's like you're going to get lonely.
	I think that's a generalization of it.
	I don't think that's necessarily the case.
	And this is a hot take, but I don't think women really understand until they stop getting attention from men.
	And that's when you get like, I mean, obviously when you're 60, no man's going to talk to you like that anymore.
	You know what, though?
	In general, in general, you look like you're 25 and you're in your 40s, so you're kind of an exception.
	I think it's kind of when guys are like, oh, when she's old, it's done for her.
	But I think it's a bit of a cope from guys.
	like there's some truth to it but i think like there's a certain sense of like a schadenfreude i don't know that's like some german term like a a sense i think well that word is uh a sense of delight or pleasure from someone else's uh failure or some like negative thing happen happening to them but
	But like, you know, they want to think, okay, girls who have a high body count or who did porn or OnlyFans are going to have like trouble finding a man.
	And there's like, definitely, I think there's some truth to that.
	But like, I think we forget, we underestimate the degree to which simps will be simps.
	And like men will like tolerate so much.
	So like.
	Yeah, I don't think women will be happy in those relationships though, really.
	I think you're just generalizing it pretty bad because I've met a lot of girls who do OS.
	But they're in a happy long-term relationship.
	Whereas like the guys support them with what they do and they want to have a future together, but they know that OnlyFans is the way to make money now.
	Yeah, I'm generalizing, definitely.
	Because it's like when you're giving advice to the general public, you want to go off the generalities and not small exceptions.
	But I think it's hard to generalize like that because it has a lot of negative consequences because then they would just take those generalities and apply it to all women.
	Which is not necessarily should be the case.
	I just think like, think about how pussy-starved so many men are.
	Oh yeah, I'm not saying, I don't think most girls are going to end up completely alone.
	I think they're just gonna end up in like less optimal situations than they could have been had they like like focused like on different things probably all the guys that subscribe to them on OnlyFans would like happily partner with them of course happily partner with them I'm sure so it's like they happily partner with them well that's a question yeah and how long is that gonna last that's the question that is that is the question Let's react to a video, then let's wrap.
	Let's do just to end it on a very toxic note.
	Just kidding.
	Let's do Andrew Tate.
	Oh, can you, Eric, can you scroll all the way to the hold on, stay there?
	Can you hit the I icon on the first GH5 center and then close the other one?
	Has he ever shouted you guys out?
	I'm just curious.
	I mean, I was talking to him on Instagram before he got banned.
	We were going to interview him, but he got banned.
	I'm not sure you guys.
	You're sorry?
	I'm excited.
	Oh, you're excited?
	Well, I don't know if it's going to happen anymore because I lost my contact with him.
	He's back on Twitter.
	I tried DMing him, but like, honestly, he's so busy.
	It's shifted.
	But let's do the bonk clip.
	Why not?
	Our most common one.
	Hold on, guys.
	You know what's so attractive about younger women?
	Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
	I don't actually think it's that.
	I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you meet a woman, you get married, you'd be together, whatever.
	In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
	I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
	How many men have fun.
	If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
	I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
	And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
	Like, well, my last man cheat.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Like, I don't care.
	Like, why is that my problem?
	So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
	They've had more fucking rides, more spins.
	I don't want that shit.
	When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
	And also, no, but no, but the truth is, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
	If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with her.
	That's unattractive, too.
	And it's unattractive, isn't it?
	But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, she really didn't think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
	Or she didn't think, you know what?
	He talked to me, Rio, let's go get a new guy.
	Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
	The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
	You know what?
	This is the guy.
	I like him.
	Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
	Women fall in love with a person who loses their virginity too, or their second or third guy.
	They really remember them.
	They really love them.
	Any woman to slept with 50 dudes she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
	She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
	She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
	She's more likely to just say, you know what new answers, new dick.
	It's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
	Let me make something clear.
	If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
	That's pretty fucking old, 30.
	I know what?
	Are you crazy?
	I there's been times I was drunk.
	Your reaction to the video, go ahead.
	I forgot closer to the mic.
	I you forgot.
	Oh he's.
	What did you say 20 hours.
	Right now I get nourished proposals all the time and honestly I think I have no idea, like if he thinks that's disgusting.
	If a guy is just talking to a 30 year old and just I just wouldn't hear it like I would just kind of move on, doesn't really matter to me.
	Okay, We'll go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	I think Andrew Tate's a brilliant marketer for sure.
	But again, any guy who believes what he said, I just, they're not the guy for me.
	Yeah.
	Going off of what he said, I mean, if he views like that with women who are 30 and who have been technically run down by other men, I just find it hard to believe that why can't women view men the same way if he slept with a whole bunch of girls prior to meeting us.
	But other than that, hey, Andrew Tate, how are you?
	Want to hand it me up?
	Thanks.
	Honestly, I think there was one part where he was like, oh, like if she fucked like 30 men, like you can't penetrate her mind.
	I think he said something like that.
	And I was so confused because it's like, why are you trying to penetrate my mind?
	You're already penetrating one thing.
	Why's that go for two?
	Mind fucking.
	Also, it sounds quite controlling.
	Like, I don't know, man.
	I kind of want to think for myself.
	So it's a little weird.
	Okay.
	Age and body count.
	I don't think that's not what was true because I mean, my body count is really low because I've been in like long-term relationships.
	So yeah.
	I don't know.
	I feel kind of sad hearing what he said.
	I think that Andrew Tate is painting a sad, maybe pessimistic portrait of dating and sex, and I don't think that it has to be that way.
	I think that if you're a man and you want a relationship with a woman, a good relationship, or you want to just have sex with women, whatever connection you want to have with a girl, like you can have what you want, and you can have what you want.
	You're more likely to have what you want if you are not all hung up about things like body count or if, or even for women, if you're not hung up about things like wealth, for example.
	I think that all of this is shallow.
	I think it's not necessary.
	I mean, genuine human connection is possible and it's there and we can be more optimistic about it.
	Like we can all be sluts if we want to and not have to shame each other about it.
	Come on.
	Me and Jason will give our answer at the end.
	Go ahead, Randall.
	That was incredible.
	I'm kind of, but we're not the same.
	You're a man whore.
	Come on.
	I'm a man whore maker.
	What?
	You're a whore maker.
	I'm a whore maker.
	You're a slut maker.
	I'm a slut maker.
	Men can't be sluts.
	Wait, do you want to be called daddy in bed?
	I know.
	I don't know.
	Yes or no.
	I have never asked a woman to call me anything in bed.
	Does it turn you on or off?
	I mean, it's kind of neutral.
	Honestly, it's kind of neutral.
	You like it.
	That shit.
	I don't like that.
	I get called mommy.
	Wait, can we go around saying daddy?
	Yeah, wait, actually.
	Daddy.
	Can we get your U-wus?
	Yes!
	It's part of my brand.
	Oh, yeah, okay.
	We'll do U-Wus.
	Like, like the cute girl Uw or like my normal girl.
	Okay, we'll do U-Wus.
	We'll do the Ahigao.
	Did I say that right?
	And then we'll do.
	Are you talking about egg yaw?
	Did I say that?
	I butchered that.
	I'll give you a pass.
	I mean, it's like it's Korean for like acting like I kind of want to.
	No, it's ahegal.
	It's ahead.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm thinking something else.
	Tongue out.
	Oh, the cross tongue out, the crop.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then what else do we do?
	We'll start with the oohoo for now.
	Can I go first?
	Yeah, go for it.
	Ooh, that was cute.
	I refuse.
	I'll just vote on the mic, but I will not uw.
	I'll moan on the mic, but I won't woo woo.
	Is that Monka TOS?
	Hello?
	Is that TOS chat?
	This is not necessary.
	But you're watching it anyway, so it's kind of necessary for you, right?
	Who wants to do an U-woo?
	I can do an U-woo.
	Go ahead.
	Uh.
	Uh.
	Marong!
	Anyone else?
	I could try.
	Oh, I'm under.
	Uhu.
	Honestly.
	I love it.
	Haram!
	Anyone else?
	Would any of you date Andrew Tate?
	No.
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're too old for him.
	Well, there's a 20-year-old at the table.
	He likes 19 freshmen.
	Come on.
	If you listen to him, you know that.
	We're not his time.
	He can't penetrate our minds.
	Honestly, I just don't think he's attractive.
	Okay, that's fine.
	He might have a lot of money, but that wouldn't persuade me either.
	I would lick his bald head, though.
	You would lick his bald head.
	I want to rub it for good luck, like Buddha.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, Andrew Tate, give me some good luck.
	I'll put it in between my beards.
	Wait, okay, so we were going around.
	We were going around before.
	Did we get through everybody?
	Can you guys do the wink earlier?
	How about that?
	But you're Korean, right?
	What's the one?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not technically.
	What would you be?
	I mean, I don't, yeah, it's like a little bit.
	I'd have to call you Nuna, right?
	Yeah, I'd have to call you Nuna.
	I like that.
	Isn't there something called like the ara-ara?
	Does anyone know?
	Ara-da-da.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Can we go around on that one?
	Do you want to do it?
	Okay.
	It's a good one.
	We'll go around on anything.
	Okay.
	Do it.
	I don't think this one is as good as my U, but.
	Ada Ada.
	You're an U-uh.
	Rocky.
	I'm so confused.
	Do you roll the R?
	You can try if you want to.
	Yeah, because in Japanese, you roll the R. Or like you roll the R.
	Yeah.
	Ada Ara.
	Ooh.
	That's beautiful.
	Breathy.
	Ada Ada.
	Young.
	Ada Ada.
	Ooh.
	Sorry, I'm nervous.
	Ada.
	Ooh.
	Ada a.
	Ooh.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just so impressed.
	Wait, did you do it?
	Can I pass?
	No, you gotta do it.
	Come on.
	Cringe.
	Adda.
	I love it.
	Adda, I don't know.
	All right, those last two were terrible.
	I'm not gonna say.
	Those last two were terrible.
	It's like a not our thing, dude.
	What is that?
	What is that?
	It's like an anime thing.
	Yeah, it's an anime.
	It's like an older woman, mature woman.
	Mommy dummies.
	Yeah.
	A mommy dummy phrase.
	You're such a good boy, like that type of time.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would any of you date someone, a man, who wore a toupee?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Dude, did you see Chinese TikTok?
	No.
	Those days.
	They were toupee.
	They were toupee.
	The priests.
	Okay.
	Wait, let's wrap on the tape thing.
	So did everyone give their reaction?
	I forgot.
	We were talking about body count.
	What did you say?
	I think it was you.
	You said something about body count, right?
	Whoops, sorry, Jason.
	Are we talking about reacting to the Andrew Tate video?
	Yeah, you were saying something about like the Tate.
	And then I was the last person, and then it was just YouTube.
	Oh, and then I praised you, and I was like, this is incredible.
	I don't know if I can even add to anything, honestly.
	That's probably what you take.
	And then, yes.
	Let's see.
	Honestly, I forgot what it was again because anything Andrew Tate, I just zone out.
	But yeah, I mean, definitely not the guy I am interested in.
	So like, whatever he thinks, I don't really care.
	But also, on the age thing, you have like two different sides of the spectrum.
	You have Numi, who is like older and like less of a body count.
	And then you have me and Lucy, like, you know, younger, higher body count.
	So it's like that theory.
	Hmm.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess that's one thing I do disagree with Tate on is that just because she's young doesn't necessarily mean she has a low body count.
	Like we know some girls that 100 plus body count at 19, like 18, it's a yikes.
	So I think he's saying more so generally, like you take any one given woman, obviously when she's 19, her body count is going to be lower than when she's 29.
	So like if you look at any one given woman, her body count at 19 is just, it's lower than in 10 years.
	So but what were we talking about?
	Yeah, dude, I'm tired.
	It's late.
	Last thing.
	Last thing.
	This is the last stream.
	I want to end it on the on like a kind of more fun note here.
	I agree with that.
	What's that?
	I agree with that.
	Yeah.
	This is a fun clip from a stand-up comedian.
	Let's last show of the year.
	We're going to wrap it up on the Patrice O'Neill clip.
	It's up.
	It's in the main.
	Main, main, main.
	Down, down, down.
	There you go.
	Wait, no, up.
	There you go.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Here's a good serious question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
	And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away.
	Or you're going to die.
	How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because you just lost a pussy in a train accident.
	Can't just walk right out on him.
	How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
	Eric, can you pause it?
	How do you keep your man?
	If I if you there was a terrible train accident, he had to get rid of the vagina.
	How do you keep your man?
	Give him head every day.
	And then.
	Closer to Mike.
	Oh, give him head every day.
	I still have goobies.
	So he'll put that in between my nitties.
	There you go.
	What about you?
	A whole lot of anal.
	Anal?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I was about to say I got two other holes if he wanted to use them.
	Okay, what about you?
	I have titties.
	Okay.
	Call for the booty hole.
	The booty hole?
	Okay.
	I got two other holes, baby, and a nice pair of tits.
	There's no shortage.
	Okay.
	Rocket Reyna?
	Super sloppy all the time.
	Super sloppy?
	Super sloppy out all the time.
	Okay.
	Got Gok 3000.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Got some good answers there.
	Got some good answers.
	Eric, can you go ahead and just pull back up?
	Wow.
	Nothing.
	You can talk.
	You can talk.
	Suck his dick.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Asshole, okay, great.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Now, I've been getting pussy beamed the whole show, right?
	But I give women the opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
	But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
	But I'm supposed to treat you special, but you're just a bunch of holes for yourself.
	No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
	Well, look, whatever.
	All right.
	Any response?
	You got it.
	You got it.
	He let it all with pussy.
	I thought he just wanted to be like a dirty answer.
	So we are.
	I would love for him to come all the time.
	Hey, I acknowledge myself as a whole.
	We got a bunch of OF girls to talk about our holes.
	Yeah.
	All right, let me get these super chats.
	Eric, did you miss one of the super chats?
	I feel like we had three that came in.
	Can you just scroll through?
	Let me pull them up.
	Yo, we got Chase.
	Thank you for the $20 super chat.
	Thank you, man.
	We are going based off the majority, not the exception to the rule, because the exception is statistically insignificant.
	Chase, thank you for the $20 super chat.
	My apologies.
	I'm not sure exactly what this is in relation to.
	Eric, you missed casual meets.
	Chase, maybe you could clarify.
	I'm not quite sure what this is in relation to.
	Maybe just whatever we've been talking about the entire night.
	Yo, Shane M, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Chase, you can't be super chatting in here.
	We need you on the pod.
	I'm pretty sure that's not.
	Yeah, that ain't Chase.
	That's not Chase Paisley.
	That's somebody else.
	Guys, if you want, get your last-minute super chats in.
	This is the last show of 2022.
	We have Shane M.
	Yeah, it's not Chase.
	We have Casual Meat with the Australian $10.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Appreciate it.
	Can we get a cat check?
	How many cats do these women have?
	Enjoy a well-deserved break, Brian.
	Do you guys have cats?
	Yes.
	No.
	Sounds like a result.
	I have a cat named Casserole.
	I call her Cassie for short.
	Cat.
	I have two Shiva Inus, Callie in Idaho.
	Okay, dogs, okay.
	I have two cats and two rats.
	Oh, any reptiles?
	Any girls?
	Those chicks are freaky.
	We used to have a bearded dragon and two leopard geckos.
	Exhibit A.
	Yes, you're right.
	Reptile chicks be freaks.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Two leaner dogs.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I have one cat.
	Hi, Asher.
	I have one dog.
	I have two cats.
	I used to have a turtle named Pancake.
	A turtle?
	R.I.P. Pancake.
	That's our title.
	What?
	Yo, guys, invest in Chewy.
	Invest in Chewy.
	And then we have Joel Taggart with the $10 Super Chat.
	The only way Brian can keep a woman up all night is by refusing to let the podcast end and forcing them to stay and answer questions.
	I'm not going to front, like, round two occasionally.
	I'm an old man.
	Round one and done.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Okay.
	Is that your copyback?
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm kind of like, that's weak.
	Word.
	Anyways, by the way, onlyfans.com slash whatever.
	Boom, check it out.
	Guys, do you guys want to plug your guys' Instagrams or OnlyFans or anything?
	By the way, all the links for the girls, they're all in the description below.
	Guys, check them out, give them a follow.
	They were very generous to come and drive on down to be in the on the show.
	So guys, give them a follow.
	But do you guys want to plug anything?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, my Instagram is J-A-S-T-E-A-A and O-F Jasmine T with two A's.
	And you can also check out my new professional film on Lust Cinema, Ashford Manor.
	You can find me on rocketarina.com.
	Tell me a baby doll on all platforms, including OnlyFans.
	That's T-O-M-I-E Baby Doll.
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	My handle is dang it's tricksy.
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	I'm some variant of Lucy Mochi on everything.
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	Anything for you, Jason?
	Nothing.
	Shout out to chat.
	Love you guys.
	See you guys in January.
	Yeah, guys, this is Crispy Kim in the chat.
	So, yeah, big props to him.
	He came all the way from Vegas to be on the show.
	So, yeah, it was good.
	Is there anything we're forgetting?
	Makeout party?
	She said, makeout party.
	Make out.
	You guys, you guys come up.
	Wait, how many of us are even numbers?
	Is that allowed?
	Wait.
	We have to leave.
	Is it Monka TOS?
	Chat, is that Monka T-O-S?
	are we making out is if there's any groping that might just a kiss Like a good romantic kiss.
	Not a make-out.
	Not full on making out.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Gotta be sick.
	So it's not against TOS?
	I think.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	That's happening.
	That was our first podcast.
	All right, that's my first kid too.
	Okay.
	And I think, geez, there's something that a zomb needed me to do.
	I think.
	Yeah.
	Are you really 44?
	Yeah, it's on the internet.
	Are you sure?
	If you look up 44, I have a biography page on there.
	But what if you just lied to the internet, people?
	I don't know if this just goes on the internet.
	I like the music.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	If you say so.
	If you say so.
	All right, guys.
	Are y'all going to make out now?
	See you guys next year.
	Haram.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Yo, thanks to everyone who super chatted tonight and throughout the past couple months.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you for supporting the show.
	Really appreciate you guys.
	Like I said, guys, we're going to be taking a couple weeks off.
	I need to get caught up on clips.
	We will be active on the whatever TikTok.
	We're going to be active on the whatever clips channel.
	I'm going to be doing a shit ton of editing, so you'll still be getting content.
	I'm just going through.
	I'm 30 videos behind, so I need to take a little break.
	Should be back early January.
	Big thanks to our chat mods, Zach.
	Thank you to Candace.
	Thanks to Eric, top producer on the ones and twos.
	Big thank you to the wonderful panel.
	Really appreciate you guys coming on.
	It was a good show.
	And appreciate the lively conversation and debate we had.
	So yeah, we won't be live again next Tuesday and Thursday, obviously, just because we're taking a couple weeks off.
	Like I said, back early January.
	Anyways, guys, thank you so much.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Hope you guys have a fantastic 2023.
	Have a happy new year.
	Happy Christmas.
	Kwanzaa.
	What's it?
	Hanukkah.
	Did that already happen?
	Anyways, guys, we will see you next time.
	See you in 2023.
	Have a good night, guys.
	And we will see you soon.
	Bye.

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