Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #14

Feb. 2, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #14

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
	Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	I am your host, Brian Atlas.
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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
	Okay.
	I'm Allison Leone.
	My age is 24.
	I am a social media manager slash, I guess, wedding planner.
	I'm trying to figure it out.
	And I am a communication major, but I graduated this year from UCSB.
	Okay, I'm Sydney.
	I am 19 years old, and I am a server.
	And I am actually taking a gap year, so no school for me.
	My name is Celeste DiMaria.
	I am a server, and I am majoring, and trying to be a teacher.
	So, yeah.
	Age?
	Oh, I'm 19.
	Oh, did you say it?
	No.
	Okay.
	Hi, my name is Leona Di Maria.
	I'm 19 years old, and I'm a server, and I'm majoring in communications.
	What up, y'all?
	My name is Chase.
	I'm 27, professional photographer, brand consultant, and I'm done with school.
	Solid.
	Hi, guys.
	My name is Tristan.
	I'm 21.
	I major in communications and kinesiology, and I'm a store manager.
	Okay, by the way, everyone's Instagrams are in the description, but we did see your chats.
	There are some complaints that all the girls' Instagrams are on private.
	So they should be on private.
	Well, after the show.
	After the show.
	Really quick, we have some behind the scenes footage from after last show.
	If you tuned in, you know, we got into a heated debate about the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and how it's nonsense.
	And by the way, we've got nothing but love for the girls who came on.
	They were super cool.
	Debate is welcomed.
	And we'd definitely like to have them back on for what I'm sure would be another very heated debate.
	Chase was there last time.
	Now, me, Chase, and Tanner, we were talking outside after the show, and we spotted the girls who were on the show.
	One of their car batteries had died.
	And they must have been trying to figure it out for 10 minutes.
	So we spotted them in the parking lot, went over to help, give them a helpful serving of toxic masculinity and the patriarchy.
	And well, here's a clip.
	Eric's just going to pull it up.
	It's the first one, jumper cables.
	You know, and then just want to eat it.
	If you want them to do it, I just want them to do it.
	I don't want to do it.
	Okay.
	So, uh.
	Anyways.
	Yeah, so that was quite the fun incident.
	And then also, Chase, I don't know if you remember, me and Chase were getting food a previous day and not related to this at all, but a girl had a taser in her bag.
	And it almost, like, she dropped the bag and the taser deployed and Chase almost got tased.
	Oh, my God.
	So, I need to hear that.
	It's just, it's been kind of a weird, weird week, let's just say.
	I would see you being tased, to be honest.
	I'm not Chase.
	I don't want to see you being tased.
	She wants me to get tased.
	I do, honestly.
	Yeah, so.
	I think the funniest part of what happened last night, we had stayed in here for like 20 minutes talking after the fact, and then we went downstairs and we talked for another 15 minutes, and then we noticed the girls still didn't have their cars started, so they'd been there for like 35 minutes.
	They were, yeah, they didn't ask us for help.
	Like, we were so down to help, and then we walked up to help them.
	They wanted to do it themselves.
	They're like, we don't need men.
	We don't need men.
	I don't know the entire point of it all.
	We can do that.
	Pretty much.
	They just didn't want to ask.
	So we also, I just want to pull something up.
	Not yet.
	Not quite yet, Eric, but we had a girl flake twice coming on the show and then finally decide after flaking twice that she wasn't comfortable coming on because I because the host, me, supports Andrew Tate, whatever that means.
	So I just.
	I'd like to take this chance to apologize.
	So to the girl that flaked, I just want to say, sorry.
	You know what, why don't we...
	Hmm.
	Should we pull up a tape clip?
	You know what?
	We'll save the ta clip.
	But we're going to dedicate.
	Dedicate?
	Okay, whoops.
	Dedicate the tate clip to you later.
	So anyways, I want to bring it back to the panel.
	Oh, wait, no, actually, Eric, really quick, can you pull up the screenshot of it?
	Just control tab over.
	Oh, I forgot this.
	Yeah, support my nonprofit, by the way.
	Hey, so we looked into what is done on the podcast on YouTube, and me and my friend now decided we're not comfortable doing it.
	I understand, may I ask what specifically it was that you were uncomfortable with?
	We are uncomfortable with the host since he supports Andrew Tate.
	Anyways, that kind of explains what I already explained.
	So anyways, whatever.
	So relationship status, longest, that was a, sorry.
	I'm a bit quite the pre-show craziness.
	Relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
	So that's relationship status, longest relationship.
	Are you on a dating app?
	Relationship status, single question mark, always question mark.
	Oh, single question mark.
	I am on dating apps, and my longest relationship is like two to three months.
	Hold on.
	Wait, wait, did you answer the dating app one?
	Yes.
	But longest relationship, three to four months.
	Yes.
	If that.
	And for that longest relationship, did you end it or did the guy end it?
	He ended it through text.
	Hell no.
	You're talking to the wrong dudes.
	From the IE, that's you.
	You know what?
	I actually, even if I've been dating a girl for three years, I'd rather she just break up with me over text, to be honest.
	Really?
	Because text?
	Yeah, because it's like, I don't want, let's just.
	I feel like you know what I'm saying?
	I'm not quite the type of guy.
	If you break up with me, I'm going to.
	It's going to be this whole theatric thing.
	I'll just be like, okay.
	That's a great thing about dating me.
	It's very easy to break up with me.
	I'm not going to like beg.
	Me too.
	It's just going to be like, that's good, though, because if someone doesn't want to be with you, why the hell are you going to be like 10 years ago?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Once that conversation has been breached, it's a wrap.
	There's no going back as far as I'm concerned.
	Wow, okay, so three to four months.
	Why?
	Like, why do we break up?
	No, but why do you think you've not had a long-term relationship?
	You've just been doing your thing.
	From his standpoint, I don't know what I want.
	So I knew what I wanted in the relationship when he locked me down.
	It's really hard to lock me down.
	But then once I'm locked down, I'm locked down.
	And he was one of the only guys I could.
	It's really hard to.
	Why is it hard to lock you down?
	Because I don't know what I want.
	Would you say you have very high expectations for a partner?
	I have high expectations, but also low at the same time.
	Explain that.
	So I feel like society now, our expectations for men are at the bare minimum.
	Like if they text you in a certain amount of time or if they even like, there was this TikTok once.
	It was like, if he like remembers your name or like asks you out or something, you're in.
	And I was like, what?
	It was like satire, but I was like, what?
	What?
	You know what?
	I actually, I do have to challenge you a bit on that.
	I actually think expectations on males have skyrocketed.
	I think they've risen.
	Can I explain that?
	Yeah, like specifically on what specifics have they risen in.
	Well, because we've opened up the dating marketplace, now it's a global dating marketplace.
	Before you had the people in your social circle or within your town, but now you can probably, I don't know if you've had this experience.
	Have you ever had a guy like in Miami slide into your DMs?
	Yes.
	Okay, there you go.
	Did he offer to fly you out?
	Oh, yeah.
	So I'm not famous on TikTok, but like I have a following on TikTok.
	So when I go live, constantly people will be like, come to Atlanta, come to Miami, come to Hawaii, I'll fly you out.
	And it's kind of, it's all talk, I feel like.
	Like they wouldn't actually do it or just.
	No.
	Big bark, smell bite.
	Big bark, small bite.
	Her DMs are open, gentlemen, if you want to.
	I love Miami.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Chase, do you want to come in on the rise in expectations?
	From what angle?
	What do you mean?
	Well, she said that she believes that the expectations on men is incredibly low, right?
	Can I chime in with that?
	Sure, sure.
	Okay, so I feel like I understand you where like the materialistic aspect has risen, but like the, I guess the, yeah, emotional, like chivalry, you know, chivalry, quote-unquote, is dead.
	Like, who killed it?
	I don't know.
	That's a good question.
	But like, I just had a guy open my door for the first time of my car, and I'm 24.
	Yeah.
	How did that make you feel when he did that?
	It made me feel really good, but then I told my mom and she was like, what?
	Like, that's something big?
	And I was like, oh, my God.
	Now, yeah.
	She's more used to it, though.
	Have you ever opened the car door for a guy?
	I mean, if they want me to, I could.
	But so what you're talking about, what you're talking about is traditional gender roles, right?
	Yes, you're right.
	So do you adhere to your traditional, your female traditional gender roles?
	So are you talking about like cooking and cleaning?
	Sure.
	So I will cook if you clean.
	So it's kind of like a, I'm very, I'm very, what's it called?
	Like you'll cook if he cleans the dishes or no, like if he cleans the dishes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I clean as I go when I cook.
	So like it's not going to be a big mess, but like if you clean the dishes.
	That's valid.
	That's valid.
	Compromising, that's the word.
	Compromise.
	Compromising.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	We should come back to that.
	And you said you were on the dating app?
	Yes.
	Currently?
	Yes.
	Which one?
	I'm on Tinder and Hinge, but like I kind of just like I have it just to see what's on there and kind of to see what's out there because I go out a lot too, so I don't really need it.
	So you're just on the apps just to see.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Your friends convinced you?
	I've had since I was 16.
	Okay.
	Yeah, press that button.
	All right.
	No, that's good, though.
	Because back then, Tinder allowed that.
	Obviously, you don't talk to 18-year-olds when you're 16.
	They cut that off.
	But you could say your age is younger, and that's what gets complicated.
	Okay.
	We'll come back to this.
	Relationship status, longest relationship.
	Are you on the dating app?
	Okay.
	Relationship status.
	Sorry.
	Relationship status, single.
	I just got out of a two-year relationship about three months ago.
	And I am on Tinder currently.
	Seeking arrangements?
	Are you on?
	Do you know what that is?
	Yeah.
	Funny story, actually.
	Wait, why do you ask?
	Let's hear it.
	I'm just curious.
	He's just wondering if you're on it.
	So I have an account, but I have not activated it or anything.
	My name is not my actual name on there.
	I'm just trying to catch a bag.
	Oh, yeah.
	Why not?
	You know, I really just wanted these shoes.
	That sounds really fucked up.
	But the fact that I haven't activated it yet was because it's just like it feels dirty.
	I feel grimy.
	So I haven't talked to anybody on it.
	And honestly, it kind of was like a joke at first.
	I did it with my girlfriend one night and we were just like, oh yeah, let's make this account.
	Let's just see what happens.
	You said you feel grimy about it.
	What are your takes on like other girls that do it?
	Like other girls that have accounts.
	Listen, I have ran into so many girls that like have like these accounts, you know, and they like, they tell me how they go on dates with like these older guys, you know, or like they'll like shit on them, basically.
	I don't know.
	Like they'll like say things to them to like degrade them.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but like.
	Yeah, they call that like FinDom or something.
	Financial dominance.
	Yeah.
	I think it's, I think it's well, they want to be degradated.
	Something like that.
	Well, there's a degradation.
	What did I say?
	Degradated.
	Well, there's degradation.
	Oh.
	I don't know.
	I just like, I feel like I want someone who's like around my age.
	You know, I don't want to feel like I have to go out of my way to get something.
	You know, I don't feel like I'm one to be like a money grabber.
	You know, I'm not that kind of person.
	It's like doing other things against your morals for money.
	Exactly.
	Or gifts or, you know, whatever.
	Exactly.
	But I don't, I'm not against girls who do want to do that.
	Because listen, like, girl, like, go get that bag.
	Like, if you want that, go for it.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Go for it.
	Why does it make you feel grimy?
	Because I feel guilty.
	Why?
	It's against your own morals, right?
	Exactly.
	My moral code, like, and my principles, you know, I just like, I don't know, I just don't want to put myself in that position.
	Like, because it's also really unsafe.
	That totally makes sense.
	Because I feel like a lot of girls, they go into that market and, you know, and then they are like, why am I being degraded?
	Why am I, why are men being like this towards me?
	But it's like, you put yourself in that position.
	You are making the money.
	You're reaping those benefits, but you're also reaping the negatives of that backlash of other people and them judging you.
	But if you don't let those judging get to you, then same thing.
	Same thing with prostitutes, too.
	Yeah.
	Like strippers too.
	So you signed up for that, but then had second thoughts?
	Well, of course.
	On the prostitution.
	Oh, no.
	I'm just making an example.
	It's like, no, no.
	No, I would never.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I just misread that.
	No, no.
	I would just be able to do that.
	You bought the outfit, but then it was too grimy.
	I didn't buy anything.
	I didn't make any purchases.
	I just typed some shit into my computer and sure, sure, sure, sure.
	Yeah.
	And then you said dating apps, Tinder, Hinge.
	No, just Tinder.
	Just Tinder.
	Just Tinder.
	Farmers Only?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What does that mean?
	What does that mean?
	That's a dating app.
	It's called for Farmers.
	It's called Farmers Only.
	No.
	You should get online.
	There's Christian Mingle.
	There's Christian Mingle.
	Come on.
	He's on there.
	I was on one called Upward, but it's for Christians.
	I didn't find what I was looking for.
	I wouldn't expect it to.
	So relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
	Relationship status, I'm single.
	Longest relationship, I think, is like two years, but like on and off.
	And I'm not on a dating app or dating site.
	That's all.
	Right on.
	Have you ever been on that dating app?
	I mean, I've like tried Tinder out, but I never really got into it.
	How come?
	I don't know.
	It's just like, it's weird.
	Like, you're just like flipping through shit.
	And I never found a genuine connection out of it.
	So I really wasn't interested.
	Well, what were you looking for on the dating app?
	To actually date?
	No.
	I was not looking just to like date or like anything like that.
	I think it was more of like a let me see the guys in my area.
	That makes sense.
	Wipe through it.
	And like, I mean, if they have a good talk, I might as well.
	But no one has a good talk.
	I feel like some girls go on there and they actually for relationships.
	It's not, it's rarely going to happen.
	Yeah.
	You know what's in that market.
	It's not for dating, really.
	I like.
	Wait, isn't that how you met your girlfriend?
	Hell no.
	Wait, I thought it was on.
	No.
	Okay, never mind.
	No, it was a different guy.
	Wait, so you said you were in an on-again-off-again relationship for one to two years.
	Yes.
	Why was it on again-off-again?
	Because honestly, I was very young.
	I still am very young, but like he was just, you know, someone you couldn't like put your full trust in.
	He was definitely like drinking, going to bars.
	Like, I bet he probably cheated on me or something, but like it was just not something you could really like rely on.
	It was more of like a push and pull of like, like, I liked him more because it was like, honestly, it was a trauma bond.
	And so it was never good.
	It was never good.
	And like, yeah, I'll speak my truth.
	Like, he really wasn't, he could never be held accountable.
	He was always, you know, going around and like he would normalize like fucked up behaviors.
	Sorry, sir.
	So many red flags.
	So you tolerated that because of trauma.
	I tolerated it because I thought that I deserved like that kind of relationship.
	But like looking back on it now, I know exactly what I deserve.
	And that was just something I shouldn't have ever gotten into.
	But I did because I was young.
	I was optimistic.
	I wanted to try something new.
	You know, how old were you at the time?
	I was very young.
	I mean, yeah, not very young, but I was like, I guess 17 at the time.
	he was he was a bit older and i just like a bit older like a bit older How much older?
	He was older.
	Not like real older.
	No, like 20, 21.
	Like, it was like that.
	Like, it wasn't too big.
	But, like, he definitely had like much more to, you know, go and experience.
	And I was just young.
	And I would be like, kind of the girl that was like back at home, like, waiting for him, like, from the bars, like, waiting for him to just, I don't even know.
	It's also a big split and like, you know, age gap.
	That age gap, you know, your 17-year world is a lot different than his being, you know, 20.
	You said 21, right?
	Yeah, it's way different.
	So obviously him going to the bars.
	And that's like, that makes you, obviously that made you worry, you know, like, what is he doing?
	So you never partied?
	I mean, I partied.
	He would invite me out with his friends and I did it with my friends.
	Like, I would party all the time.
	But like, it's just, I don't know.
	He was just bad news.
	And I mean, at least I've found myself and I have grown out of that relationship.
	And I know how to keep people.
	Like, I know how to, like, I don't know, just you don't know.
	Okay.
	One thing you did wrong in that relationship.
	One thing.
	You want me to say it?
	Can you scoot the microphone a little bit towards your, keep going.
	There you go.
	One thing I did wrong in that relationship.
	Yeah, trust him.
	Be with him.
	I shouldn't have ever put myself in that relationship because I knew what would come out of it.
	And I, instead of not like trying to understand like what would come out of it, I kind of like just put myself into it.
	And it just got the best of me.
	And at least I've grown.
	But okay, one thing you did wrong.
	And one thing I did.
	In the relationship.
	Because trusting somebody isn't, that's not doing something wrong.
	I mean, it was wrong.
	I would argue that if you trust somebody when they don't deserve your trust, that is doing something wrong.
	Yeah, it was something I did wrong.
	I shouldn't have ever trusted him because I saw if you were to ask him what you did wrong, he wouldn't say she trusted me too much.
	That's not what he would say.
	He would probably.
	What would he say?
	But that you agree with.
	I mean, one thing I might have done wrong.
	I can't really think about it.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I wasn't the one that was wrong.
	I'm going to be honest, like hearing your description of the relationship, it sounded like you were just kind of vulnerable.
	Yeah, you were vulnerable, and like he probably had a lot of power in that situation, probably manipulated you a lot.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And you were probably, were you kind of like in a space where you're hoping that, like, I was hoping for the best.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like, I was very, like, optimistic about him.
	And I put my faith into him and like trusted him.
	And I didn't do anything like necessarily wrong.
	I think.
	You just got taken advantage of.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But throughout the whole course of the relationship, you did nothing wrong.
	I probably did something wrong.
	No, I did not cheat on him.
	Okay.
	I'm not assuming.
	I'm just asking.
	Yeah.
	Your question is valid, but no.
	I did not.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Longest relation or relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
	My longest relationship was two and a half years, and it was also on and off.
	Did you guys date the same guy?
	No, my God.
	No, but we have had very similar situations.
	I'm currently single right now.
	And what was the last thing?
	Dating apps?
	Oh, no dating apps.
	Have you ever been on one?
	Um, yeah, I used to use Tinder and stuff, but I don't really, like, think that it does any good for me.
	By the way, they're twins.
	If you haven't figured it out.
	I've got to see the entire comment section.
	Okay.
	So you were also in an on-again-off-again relationship?
	Yes, exactly.
	Okay.
	Tell us about why was it on-again-off again?
	We started off very strongly and we had a we had really great experiences, but there were a lot of traumatic events that happened throughout our relationship.
	And I kept giving him chances, like because I feel like I thought that our love could really just like I thought we could work out in the end.
	I thought that we could figure it out.
	And I really thought that he would change and kind of be that person for me, but.
	It's literally the exact same thing.
	He never did.
	And I went back so many times.
	Are you guys attracted to similar guys?
	No.
	No.
	Is it similar?
	Was it the sex?
	It was just really good sex?
	No.
	The sex was bad.
	It's no, our sex is really good.
	Oh, okay.
	So maybe it wasn't.
	It's beyond sex that we're talking about.
	It's more about the emotional connection that we had and that we shared for over a period of two and a half years.
	Like we learned a lot about each other.
	And then quick question.
	You said you had a trauma.
	I'm not going to ask you what happened exactly, but how many times did these occur that you were just continuing to let it pass?
	That's a good question.
	There were multiple circumstances, but they were very different things.
	But I let them happen more than I should have.
	Was there like a point in the relationship where you were like, I've had enough, I'm done?
	Yeah, there were multiple.
	But I did.
	But I did.
	We had periods of where we wouldn't talk to each other for two months.
	And then he would rekindle.
	He'd always come back.
	And I would always say that.
	He would be unchanged.
	and I believed it and then the same thing because it was so it's like love bombing like where you you act like you're so changed and you act like you're such a different person Oh, I'll give you the world.
	Like I'm going to be here for you, like all this stuff.
	And then when you invite them back into your life, it kind of goes stale all over again.
	Yeah.
	They'll most likely say that I've changed pretty frequently.
	It's not that easy.
	You get reeled in and then it's like, wow, you haven't changed at all.
	Like I'm a fool for kind of giving my part, like myself up to you again.
	Yeah, and all that time too, and trusting him.
	Yeah, and then you get hurt all over again and it's like, I don't know, it sucks.
	So you guys both had pretty similar relationships, it sounds like in that way.
	Well, they were very similar, but also very different in their own ways.
	I'm sure the experiences that we shared with these people were incredibly different.
	And we've obviously talked about it like multiple times, but it's very different.
	My question to you guys is after that, after these experiences with these guys, do you guys feel like you've learned and now you guys like you know what to look out for?
	You guys hold your relationships to a higher standard?
	Yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, that's why I'm not really looking.
	Like I didn't download a dating app because like I don't really want to put myself out there like I'm ready or whatever because I know that I'm not and I'm kind of just like on this path to kind of like figure out like who I am before I put my speak into the microphone.
	Or before I put myself in that situation again.
	Was this a recent relationship?
	Um it was pretty recent.
	Like how how long ago?
	It was like, honestly, very recent.
	We broke up three weeks ago.
	Oh, damn.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	But honestly, I feel like I had let go of the relationship a lot early on.
	This is your opportunity.
	Do you want to talk some shit to him?
	No, I don't.
	Out of respect for him, I would never talk shit.
	I like that.
	Because I still obviously care about this person.
	I'm not going to go into depth about the details or whatnot because I still, in the bottom of my heart, think that he's a good guy.
	Respect.
	He just needs to grow up, you know?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	See, I feel like most girls are just off like, fuck you, or something like that.
	So I really like that you were just like, no, you spent all that time with him, so you're like, respect it.
	And then you're just like, well, I just hope the best.
	Yeah, out of, like, the way that I want to deal with this situation is not get my anger or my feelings to have, like, get to the best of me.
	Like, I'd rather, I don't know, just forgive, like, forgive and move on.
	Massive respect.
	Yeah, you can't carry that shit with you.
	Yeah, don't carry it.
	And honestly, like, every relationship that I've had, it's not like a dwelling.
	It's not something I should, like, be like so down about.
	It's more so, like, it was a good experience.
	It lasted.
	It was great.
	But if it's done, it's done.
	You can only look at it as a good experience and just like be thankful that it happened in your life, that it taught you things.
	And if that happens, so be it.
	You can't, you know, hate someone for what they did or like blame anyone.
	You have to find those answers within yourself and just hope for the best for what's to come.
	And yeah.
	Well said.
	I'll add this to you.
	Like I've had a few relationships not work out.
	And when a relationship doesn't work out, you learn a lot about yourself and what you want out of a relationship too.
	So definitely take that to heart because that's super valuable.
	Also, ladies, I just want to let you guys know, Peter J in the comments said that all of these women are beautiful.
	I saw that.
	I saw that too.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate you.
	Yeah, you guys are getting all the love.
	We are.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Boom.
	Virginity matters.
	Yeah, I like that one.
	So I'm going to ask you the same question.
	What is one thing that you did wrong in that relationship?
	Yeah.
	I think that when we first kind of got to know each other, we were both single, obviously.
	And I don't know.
	Like weeks prior to that or days prior to that relationship, like I was hooking up with other people.
	Like I'm not going to lie.
	And I didn't really tell him that.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Before you guys were even dating, you had hooked up with...
	Yeah.
	You were hooking up with other people?
	Yeah, and it changed his viewpoint on me, which isn't necessarily right.
	I mean, you guys weren't really in a relationship.
	I don't think there was any promise of fidelity.
	Yeah, there's not, but he honestly made me feel like shit for it.
	I don't think.
	I don't think he was right for that, though.
	I mean, I get it.
	So I don't know.
	I feel like I'm in this kind of mental.
	Like, he kind of put me in this mindset of, like, the things that I did in the past were like bad.
	It was wrong of me, but in reality, it probably wasn't.
	Did you think those hookups following up to your guys' relationship were just pointless?
	Like, that made you realize, like, okay, I'm ready for a relationship.
	Yeah, okay, yeah.
	So that's why I think there's nothing wrong with it because you doing that and then going to a relationship after that.
	If anything, it's like that showed you, yes, I'm ready for a relationship.
	When I was in the relationship, I was very committed and dedicated.
	And obviously, we'd get into arguments, like, oh, like, I'm not hearing him out.
	Or, like, I'm, I don't know, that would probably be like the biggest thing that harmed our relationship was like sometimes like it was hard for me to understand like what he was going through.
	And I don't know.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	I think Mike Davis came in there.
	Let me do the soup chats really quick while we got him.
	Oh, here he is.
	Yo, what up?
	Glabis LA, thank you.
	Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Much appreciated.
	Hello, hello.
	Good to see you back.
	We saw you last stream.
	We have Mr. Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
	This is starting off sounding like a group therapy session.
	Yo, next, Chase is going to transition this into a Christian.
	That's what I'm laughing for.
	Christian worship session.
	Let's go.
	Bimbos in here.
	Mike Davis has been asking for bimbos for like three hours.
	Yeah, I mean, Mike Davis, you got to get out here, bro.
	Come on the podcast.
	I've invited him.
	I've invited him.
	He's.
	I know you got the spare cash to come out here, bro.
	Yeah, we got to hear you.
	Come on.
	Chop it up with us, dog.
	Maybe we can have him wear like a masquerade ball mask.
	Yeah, if that's like a costume, some sort of disguise.
	And we'll call him.
	Did he say he doesn't want to come on because he wants to stay anonymous?
	Well, he runs a business.
	He runs a business.
	So that means that he's even more uncancelable.
	Exactly.
	So, okay.
	Let's see.
	But you guys.
	What was I going to say?
	It doesn't matter.
	Okay.
	Anyways, thank you guys for the super chats.
	What's that?
	Which one?
	Can Chase rate each girl one to ten on their fertility?
	Yeah, okay.
	I'll be honest.
	I'll be honest.
	I have a pretty good radar, and I would say all four of you guys look very fertile.
	Thank you so much.
	But my question is: if any of you guys are on birth control, because if you are, that might affect it long term.
	No, I'm off with that.
	Wait, hold on.
	What?
	Chase?
	What?
	he slipped that question so so you so someone someone is really not guys guys one at a time Let me make this point.
	Someone asked me to rate them based on their fertility.
	I did.
	And then I mentioned that if any of them are on birth control, that will affect their fertility long term.
	Because fertility, Brian, it tends to drain nutrients from a woman's body that can affect her long-term fertility.
	Birth control.
	Yes.
	Birth control.
	Okay, well, which side?
	There's so many.
	I know it definitely happens for the pill.
	Okay, yeah, I see that and stuff like that.
	In general, I think birth control, because it alters your body and it tricks it into thinking you're pregnant.
	So it's like messing you up.
	In so many ways.
	It's messing you up.
	Right, but Chase.
	Chase, what's up, bro?
	Hold on here.
	Hold on.
	Hold on to the next one.
	So, what did you ask?
	If you're in a long-term relationship with a girl and you want to have sex without a condom, we can't be like someone we know who will not be named.
	You know who I'm talking about, Chase.
	Yep.
	Go on.
	Can I say that?
	No, you cannot say his name.
	No, I'm not going to say his name.
	I won't say his name.
	Okay.
	But we both have a mutual friend, let's just say, who's got into some trouble recently because of blowing loads in his girlfriend.
	You can just say.
	Oh, there we go.
	Pregnancy scare.
	we go so chase you think that you well you're What's your question?
	Just spit it out.
	Spit it out, man.
	Come on, let's go.
	What's your question?
	For me, for me, and I think a lot of guys, if they're going to be monogamous to a girl, they're probably going to want to have sex without a condom.
	Okay.
	And girls equally, probably.
	Yeah, some girls.
	Some girls, yeah.
	Some girls is like, they don't want to be on birth.
	That's totally fine if they don't want to.
	But I think some guys, they don't enjoy sex without a condom.
	And I think it's pretty reasonable to, you know, if you're committed to someone, to want to have sex without a condom.
	So is there a question there?
	What's a waste?
	Well, I just agree with you.
	There's a conflict here.
	What I'm saying is that I guess I just you're advising the women not to be on birth control.
	No, I'm not advising them of anything.
	I'm simply making the statement that birth control can affect your fertility long term.
	And if you don't need to be on it, it's a good idea not to be on it.
	Eric, can you just close the door just while this?
	Can I ask you a question?
	Yeah.
	Would you ever get a reversible vasectomy?
	Absolutely not.
	That's also a good question.
	I would never get a vasectomy in the first place.
	No way.
	There's a risk to that, though, because sometimes it might not even be successful afterwards.
	Have you done any research, though?
	What?
	I have.
	I have.
	Not every guy that gets a reverse, they can like it.
	It's not reversible.
	It can be, but it's not guaranteed.
	So it's like you're taking a risk, same thing.
	Like with girls taking their birth control, it'll affect their fertility.
	If they had created like a pill that you guys would have to take instead of the women, would you like to?
	At what cost?
	Of your hormones.
	I mean, I'm saving myself for marriage at this point.
	So maybe not you, but them too.
	Wait, what are you doing?
	What's your pay?
	If we would take a pill to create like a pillow.
	I'm not a virgin, but I am saving myself.
	No crosstalk, please.
	Let her speak.
	I was asking if, like, instead of the women having to take pills, like, if they made them for men, would you take them if you were in a relationship or if you wanted to have casual sex?
	Justin, I'll let you.
	I feel like at what cost, that's the thing.
	It would mess with your hormones.
	I mean, the cost that it takes, like, the cost that we have to deal with, like hormonal changes.
	Like, would you risk that?
	I feel like if we expect that of girls, and if you really, you know, really do want to have, I guess, unprotected sex, I guess I would do it.
	I mean, it's fair, it's fair.
	I'm going to take it at like a time, like a specific time every single day because we would if that was required.
	That's required.
	Yeah, that's where we have to.
	I mean, at that point, I'd probably honestly like every single day at the same time.
	You guys have a lot of options.
	I mean, there's your acne could flare up.
	Well, okay, you have the IUD.
	Hold on.
	Why don't you speak, Leon?
	You have the IUD, both hormonal and non-hormonal.
	There's the copper one.
	You have the implanon, which is what, every three months, maybe?
	Or how long does it last?
	I'm not sure.
	There's the patches.
	There's various different types of pills.
	There's the Nuva ring.
	I mean, there's a lot of options for women.
	There's no options for men.
	I'm actually fully in favor of male birth control.
	And what I've heard for a very long time, and I've hope came around sooner than it did.
	I think I've heard of it for over a decade.
	It's called Vasil Gel.
	In India, it was developed in India.
	It's called Rizug.
	Vasil Gel.
	Sounds.
	Yeah, and it was developed.
	It'll fuck you up.
	So it was developed in India.
	It's called Rizug.
	They've been trying to develop it for over 10 years here in the U.S. under the name Vasilgel.
	Essentially, what they do is they would inject a polymer into your vas deferens, and it'd create a physical block.
	It's supposed to be reversible, and it lasts 10 years.
	Chase doesn't have to be a problem.
	Yeah, I have heard of that.
	I've heard it actually.
	It's totally terrifying.
	So, hold on.
	So, I'm actually, I've been in contact with the people that are developing it.
	And I'm actually going to do a one-on-one podcast with someone high up in their organization because I definitely think the way you give power back to men for men to finally have some reproductive rights is to get them male birth control.
	So, I'm fully in favor of it.
	And you're laughing, Eleanor.
	Is it safe, though?
	Is it safe?
	That's what I was asking.
	Wait, can we go back?
	Yeah, I was laughing at just the Brian's very passionate about male reproductive rights.
	I appreciate it.
	I appreciate it.
	It's just funny to me.
	But is it safe, Brian?
	Well, so in India, they've done human trials.
	I believe it's on the verge of being approved.
	They have not done any human trials in the U.S. They've done some animal trials, I believe.
	Honestly, and maybe this is conspiracy theory territory, but I think that the drug companies, because it's a 10-year injection, it takes probably the cost of it is incredibly low.
	It's much more profitable for the drug companies to have the women taking a pill every day.
	Absolutely.
	So, I think that there's actually been a concerted effort by the drug manufacturing companies to not have this come to market the Vasal gel because it's incredibly cheap.
	It's a one-time procedure.
	It can be done outpatient.
	So, I think that's why.
	I'd be curious to know how much birth control companies make on a yearly basis selling birth control pills because a drug like that would actually be a huge threat to the female birth control market.
	I mean, drug companies, there's been other examples, like proven examples, where they try to manipulate certain things so that they can boost their profits.
	So, they'll insulin happen all year in 2020, and I'll leave it at that.
	Okay.
	Isn't 10 years a lot, though?
	10 years?
	Well, it's reversible.
	Yeah, it can last.
	But it can last for 10 years, and then you'd probably have to have it redone.
	That's cool.
	So, you could reverse it.
	Okay, cool.
	Can we go back for like this?
	I'm still shocked.
	So, you said that you're saving yourself from marriage, but you're not a virgin.
	Correct.
	Yeah, I stopped having sex like two years ago.
	Two and a half years ago.
	Yeah.
	So, you didn't technically fully save yourself.
	No, at this point, I was saying, like, I don't need to think about like all this birth control stuff because at this point, I'm moving forward.
	I'm saving myself for my wife.
	I didn't previously because I'm not going to be able to do it.
	Was it Justin Bieber?
	Good for you.
	Did you say wasn't Justin Bieber?
	Was it Justin Bieber?
	I'd be surprised if he was.
	I mean, if you're willing to talk about it, what was the point where you were just like, okay, now is like, I'm done with this.
	I'm going to save myself now.
	Yeah, so with a girl I was with in the past, her and I were deeply in love, but I also knew that we weren't going to get married.
	And in the process of having sex, like you really deeply bond with somebody, right?
	And like, I knew we weren't going to get married, and I could tell that because there were just like there was too much compatibility, incompatibility in terms of like the deep underlying values.
	So you guys were dating?
	Yes.
	So why did you, how long were you like in the relationship for, like, when you realized that you knew you weren't going to, you know, be with this girl or woman or, you know, whatever for the rest of your life?
	Like, when did you realize and why did you not end it sooner?
	Exactly.
	I started to get the feeling like six months in.
	And then I absolutely knew, I'd say probably about a year in.
	No, actually, probably about like a year and three months into the relationship.
	I absolutely knew.
	But I had a feeling at like the six month mark and I kind of just wanted to like wait it out.
	Like I was like, maybe we can negotiate to like, you know, build a relationship with each other where it'll last long term.
	And we realized we couldn't.
	I feel like that's what so many people do when they're in relationships.
	Like you know, like you know when you know like you always have to trust your gut, right?
	That something isn't right.
	It's the optimism.
	Exactly.
	Something doesn't feel right and you kind of just want to keep pushing and pushing and pushing and especially when they do some really messed up stuff to you.
	You know, like they can hit you or, you know, like, or and it goes both ways.
	You know, I'm not going to like set like a double standard.
	You know, like women, like they hit men too.
	You know, it's not.
	Never heard.
	Lambert.
	Samburd.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	You know, but so like this can go both ways.
	Like you can feel that way about like, you know, say like you two were dating and she hate you.
	Like you could feel that way about it.
	Right?
	Like oh shit.
	Like she's probably she's probably not like the best option.
	You know?
	Yeah, she is you.
	You said you said a year and six months.
	How long?
	No, it was like a year and three months.
	And then how long did you date?
	Like until like a year and a half.
	Okay, so it was like three months.
	The last like two months of us dating, like I don't want to get like super deep into details, but like the last two months of us dating, like we basically knew it was over, but we were still like talking to one another and stuff.
	And then there came a point where we were like mutually like, okay, we know that we're not cut out for the long term.
	So let's end it.
	And it was a mutual decision.
	It was good.
	How do you feel reflecting back on that time of you guys spending that year and six months together?
	Do you feel like it was a waste of time or do you feel like you're happy about the moments you guys had, but like, damn, it didn't work.
	Dude, it was a beautiful time.
	I learned so much about myself as a man.
	Yeah, and you changed your perspective on how you're going to be.
	A lot.
	A lot.
	And it also made me realize like what I want in a marriage.
	Like meeting this girl, like I knew very soon after meeting her, like I want to have kids with you someday.
	Like I loved her so much that I knew I wanted to have kids with her.
	That was good and then it transitioned.
	Yeah, well, I mean, like, a big part of it was I started to take my faith a lot more seriously.
	Got it.
	So she wasn't religious or like morally, that's what you mean.
	Okay, got it.
	Yeah.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	And why are they disguised?
	Look who's in the chat by the way.
	Andrew Penny.
	I saw Anthony, Andrew Tate.
	That was the guy who brought connected you guys with this podcast.
	Exactly, yeah.
	Wait, can I ask you a question?
	Yeah.
	So if there was a girl that you like fell in love with and you knew that she loved you, like you, you guys both knew that you really loved each other, but you guys weren't necessarily ready for marriage, you still would not have sex with her.
	I'm sorry, can you rephrase that question?
	That was like a lot to press.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	So imagine you found a girl that you loved with your whole heart and she loved you equally as much.
	And you knew down the line that you would marry this girl.
	Like and you knew that you guys were both like fully like dedicated to her.
	You're asking if we would still say that.
	Would you guys still save yourself for sex?
	Or would you?
	I would do my absolute best, and that's a very difficult thing to do because when you're really in love with somebody and really attracted to them, it's challenging to.
	I just want to see how, like the kind of like limitations, like like what could break that for you.
	I mean, if her and I end up on a date with one another and we're alone and we're close, like it's, you know, one thing leads to another and that's that's hard to avoid, you know.
	But that's where it comes down to me as a guy.
	Like I think most women would follow the guy's lead in that kind of scenario and for sure you know like it's gonna take a lot of self-control for me.
	Yeah, because once I find, like that woman that I want to make my wife, it's gonna be real hard to have self-control.
	You haven't found that woman yet, correct?
	Yeah, that's okay too.
	Yeah, it's okay, it's all right.
	God's God's doing a lot of work on me, for sure.
	I feel like oh, go ahead, i'm sorry.
	I feel like a lot of people you know, including myself, and like i'm gonna be totally honest here like feel like they need to force things, you know, and like letting things go, like i'm one who feels like I need to be in control of a lot of situations, you know, and when I feel like things are out of my control, like I kind of feel like a bit manic, you know.
	So like hearing like you say that like you're able to, you know like, save yourself.
	Basically it's very encouraging, you know, very impressive, because you look at a lot of guys nowadays and all they want is just like sex and sex and sex whatever um, i'm not saying all guys, because you know that's very unfair, not gonna, but like in general, it's like yeah, if I, if we're gonna exactly, if we're gonna generalize the male species, there's a, there's always like a majority.
	Yes, I know what you mean.
	Sorry, i'm so sorry.
	Please don't do that.
	Um, it's the hookup culture that's like huge right now.
	Yeah, do you find that when you're with a guy that you really like and respect you mentioned that you're like, you like to maintain control right, when you're but i'm not dominant, okay.
	So like, when you're with a guy who you respect, are you able to like, relax and like let him lead and let him be in control?
	Yes, until he does something that I don't like, and then i'm very, very honest about it and I think that like, I think it's like a blessing and a curse, like how straight up I can be with people.
	You know because like sometimes, like I, just somebody wouldn't like give us an example of a time you've been really straight up with the guy.
	Okay um, just that, i'm ready.
	Well, I can't pull the microphone a bit closer towards you?
	There you go.
	Okay, is this good?
	Yeah, cool.
	Um, by the way, I just want to say this panel has like the weakest bladders.
	I have a guy i'm sorry I haven't gotten up once so just saying right, just saying okay, go ahead, i'll get up right now.
	Um, I can't really think of like a.
	Actually well, maybe I can um, probably can I give like a generalized example, not like a specific time sure Sure, Okay.
	All right.
	Actually, no, here.
	I have one.
	Go ahead.
	You guys have these all locked.
	Give us an example of a time you're brutally honest to a dude.
	Okay.
	I was hanging out with this one guy that I met at a bar.
	Hanging out.
	Hanging out.
	Literally, I just, I drove to his house.
	Hanging out?
	I drove to his house.
	Let her tell the story.
	Let her tell this show, bro.
	Let her tell his story.
	Come on.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'll roast after.
	I drove to his house because he wanted to hang out.
	He wanted me to come over, you know.
	Netflix and chills.
	Probably something like that, right?
	So I walked into his, I walked into his house.
	Music was great.
	Exactly my type of music, you know?
	It was my first time hanging out with him.
	So, you know, like seeing that similarity of like music tastes was.
	Aqua?
	What?
	Was it Aqua?
	What?
	It's an artist.
	Aquamarine.
	The barbing.
	Let her tell the story.
	I want to hear the story.
	It doesn't matter what kind of music it was.
	It was good music.
	It was music that I like.
	Sure.
	And I appreciate music a lot.
	So I thought it was going to be good, right?
	You know, thought he was going to be cool.
	And he was cool.
	We went to his room and he was like, oh, you want to come see this view?
	I was like, yeah.
	So we go upstairs on his balcony and we look at the view and he's talking and he's all nervous and shit.
	And he's like, I can see him like shaking.
	I'm like, you're a lot older than me.
	Like, this is like really interesting.
	Like, I feel like you would do this all the time.
	You know, like you just seem like you have it together the way he was texting me too.
	He was shaking?
	Yes.
	His hand was like going like this.
	He's just like.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	His hand was like literally going like this.
	Not like shaking uncontrollably, but like, you know, you could tell like there was some nerves there.
	His blood sugar might have been low.
	Like maybe.
	I mean, or he was probably just super nervous.
	Or he could have been on the ship.
	He could have been on some shit.
	I've been in that place before where you're with a girl that you're really attracted to and you're about to make the move and you're nervous.
	Right.
	And listen, if he was so nervous because I'm attractive, like then, you know, I appreciate that.
	It's complimentary.
	That's usually what it is.
	But it is complimentary.
	You know, I like when a guy can assert his dominance and just be like, yeah, like, hey, you know, whatever, like, let's go do this.
	And I mean, for the most part, he knew what he wanted, right?
	But like, just the nervousness that I felt just made me kind of turned off in a way, you know?
	He wouldn't let it go.
	So I kept kind of like, I kept going with the flow.
	You know, I was like, okay, like maybe within the next 30 minutes to an hour, like, he'll kind of loosen up a little bit.
	Because that's normally what happens, right?
	Like, I was nervous myself going into it.
	I'm a very nervous person.
	But it seemed like over time, like, it was just not stopping.
	And then eventually he like leaned in, right, to like kiss me and stuff.
	And it was just not good.
	So I backed up completely.
	And I told him, I was like, hey, listen, I don't think this is working out.
	That hurt his soul.
	Wait.
	What was that?
	I tried.
	No, I really did try.
	And I really don't want that to make me sound like a bitch, you know, or anything like that.
	But, you know, heart wants what it wants.
	Like, if I don't like something, I have to tell you, I'm not going to be a pushover.
	I'm not going to let someone do something to me that I don't like.
	Absolutely not.
	Just to recap, because I think I might have missed the part.
	So did you, you called him out?
	What did you say?
	I didn't call him.
	Well, what did you say, though?
	I just said, like, hey, like, this isn't working out.
	Like, I'm not, I'm not, like, like, fucking with this.
	Yeah.
	Oh, at the ends there.
	But you said initially, you guys, you saw he was nervous.
	Did you say something at that point?
	No.
	Okay, so but he was nervous.
	You thought, okay, give him 30 minutes, he'll chill out.
	Exactly.
	I wanted to give it a second.
	He went for the kiss.
	Yeah.
	And then it just wasn't it.
	It wasn't.
	And then you dipped or?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I told him, though.
	I told him I was like, hey, I'm just not feeling this.
	Didn't he?
	What was his response to when you said that?
	Oh, he felt really, really bad.
	I felt awful.
	I felt that.
	Because I don't like hurting people like that.
	So he was basically just a pussy.
	Is what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Can we say that I am?
	Well, he just quick enough.
	Right.
	What?
	You saw he was nervous.
	He didn't make the move quick enough, and that was a turn off.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	I feel, I still feel like shit about it.
	Okay, so you shouldn't, though.
	You meet up with someone, you actually get to know them, you're just like, you just don't like them.
	That's fine that you don't want to kiss them.
	I mean, it's not.
	I mean, where's the thing?
	I wanted him to want to, you know?
	And so he did eventually.
	But, you know, I think the weirdest part about it was the fact that before he did it, he was like, can I kiss you?
	Okay, I was going to ask that.
	I never asked him.
	No, no, no.
	I don't think that's a red flag.
	Okay.
	It's not a red flag.
	But I think the way he said it, you know, the tone is everything.
	You know, it came off really creepy and he wasn't confident.
	You know, and I feel like I need confidence.
	So, hold on.
	Oh, bitch all these rules.
	Sounds like there's a lot, a lot there.
	So hold on.
	So you sort of, you said that you think it's a red flag if a guy were to ask to kiss you.
	What I was saying.
	Or maybe a turn off.
	So like, I mean.
	Into the microphone, please.
	Okay.
	Honestly, like, if he asks, like, if he is asking you to kiss you, yes, that's a really, really nice thing to do.
	But, like, if you're not confident about it, it's kind of a turn off.
	This is the way, it's the way you do it.
	I feel like you're like, I don't know.
	If you have, like, a good tone to it and the good timing to it, then yeah, it'll work.
	You'll be like the gentleman, you know?
	But like, if you say it in a weird way, which I'm sure he did, you're just like, nothing.
	That's weird.
	I mean, like, I mean, of course, consent is like super amazing.
	But, like, when you're like kissing someone, like, you can either say it like in a, in a way that's, like, a, oh, can I kiss you?
	And to be brutally honest, I mean, most girls, I feel like they like a guy that's like, I don't know, not stern, I guess, but like goes up.
	His constant straight up is not a pussy, basically.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No shake in his voice when he asks.
	Yeah, a girl wants like a guy that knows.
	Like, you don't want like a question mark to be after it.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Can I kiss you?
	Can you move that microphone pretty much touching hers?
	I'd rather him have said to me, like, oh, like, let me kiss you.
	Like, I want to kiss you.
	Not, oh, can I?
	Like, like, mom.
	So, or, like, I'm gonna have these cookies.
	Yeah.
	But, like, I'm gonna kiss you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like, it's not a question.
	It's more of like a, oh, I'm gonna do this.
	And, like, I mean, if you're a girl and you're like, feeling it, of course, like, fucking kiss me.
	Well, I mean, yeah.
	Okay, so I'm gonna go around the table and I'm just gonna ask you guys.
	So is it a turnoff if a guy asks you for permission before going for the kiss?
	Yes.
	Into the microphone, please.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Honestly, yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Why?
	I just want to be like grabbed, to be honest.
	Okay, it's.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, I think if you have like that spark with a guy and like that interest within a guy, they don't need to ask you if they want to kiss you.
	You already know they're going to grab you and make out with you.
	Like, you don't need to have that, like, one question where it's like, oh, it'll kill the mood.
	It's like, yeah, no, honey.
	You can kiss me.
	Like, wait a minute.
	There's a comment here saying, so never ask girls to sexually engage.
	Sorry, noted.
	That's not true.
	Let's not.
	The other ones.
	Whoever asks girls to sexually engage.
	She's already in your home.
	That's going to say.
	All right.
	That guy's in the chat.
	That guy's in the chat all the time.
	He's a funny guy.
	He's trolling.
	Yeah, he's trolling.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Just making sure that's not.
	Well, I mean, I would assume.
	Shout out to XDM.
	Do you guys ever let me ask?
	Of the times that you've kissed a guy, have you ever initiated the first kiss?
	Yeah, 100%.
	Absolutely.
	Stop the cap.
	Hold on.
	Damn.
	This is a different group.
	This is a different group.
	Can I be honest?
	Most of my hookups, like I've been the one to initiate.
	I've been the one to initiate a kiss.
	Really?
	Because either I think they might be way too scared or something else, but I've always been the one to just kiss them.
	And I don't know if it's because they're too scared to, you know, make the first move.
	I don't know.
	Well, I think it comes down to two things for dudes nowadays.
	I think the majority of dudes are just like nervous.
	Like when I was a teenager, I can remember so many times when I was like out on a date with a girl.
	I really liked her, but I was nervous to make that move.
	I think for most dudes, that's what it is.
	But there's also like this crazy culture nowadays where chicks like will accuse dudes of like sexually assaulting them.
	The me too.
	I saw that hashtag me too movement.
	I saw that in the comments.
	So yeah, guys are kind of in the damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
	With all this stuff.
	I mean, guys don't want to be perceived as being too pushy and creepy.
	And the last thing a guy wants is to be potentially falsely accused of something.
	But you have these sort of you hear what the girls just said, right?
	And like, I think most women don't really would rather just the guy going for the kiss, right?
	But guys don't want to be put in a position where they're going to make the girl feel uncomfortable, especially with the social climate as it is today.
	You got to read the situation, though.
	There's so much non-verbal communication, just body language, you know, leaning in.
	Those types of things will tell you, like, yeah, like it's okay, you know.
	But if the girl's nervous, if the girl's nervous herself, sometimes the signs aren't there.
	Yeah, you can definitely read a situation wrong.
	You know, you can fuck up on the situation and be like, oh, I read the situation wrong.
	But like, it's something that you can pick up on.
	I guess you could say the vibe of the situation, you know?
	Normally, body language, something I've noticed when someone looks down at your lips a lot, you know, it's a sign, you know, that they want to be able to get away from you.
	Oh, you can so tell.
	No, you can tell majority of the time.
	And you feed into it.
	No one's, I mean, like, if they kiss you, when you're not feeding into it, that's fucked up.
	But like, when you feel like body language, obviously, like, clicking off of each other, then it's obviously going to happen.
	I mean, but if you're not, like, showing that like interest in someone, then of course they shouldn't kiss you.
	But if you both know, it's all in the eyes.
	Like, if you guys know, then it's going to happen, you know?
	I also think, too, like, I feel like there's, like, a lot of pressure nowadays when people are dating to like make that move on the first date or like to go in for the kiss or whatever.
	I think it's awkward.
	Yeah, and I feel like letting things, yeah, like, I feel like, like, I remember when I went on dates when I was a teenager, like, I was going into it with this objective of, like, okay, I want to make out with her at least by the end of the night, right?
	Like, that's my goal.
	Yeah, like you have to, and that's kind of like there's like an objective for a lot of dudes, and like that kind of puts you like when dudes are in that mindset, it can make them nervous because they're like, okay, I have to do this thing.
	And I feel like a better mindset to go into it with is like, okay, I want to get to know this person.
	I want to have fun with this person.
	And I think the objective should be to feel so relaxed with the person and comfortable with them that it just unfolds naturally.
	You hear this preach this.
	Exactly.
	If you guys are listening on this, don't be focusing on that objective, dude.
	That's honestly exactly how it is.
	Yes.
	You're vibing with them.
	You have that situation.
	You have a fun time.
	Most likely at the end of the night, that kiss will happen naturally.
	Very good.
	But hold on.
	But what happened to the guy that was with her?
	He waited 30 minutes.
	But here's what I would argue.
	It was more than 30 minutes.
	Here's what I would argue, though.
	But for God, here's what I would argue.
	When he took you up onto the rooftop, he already had it in his mind that he wanted to make out with you.
	And he was thinking about it.
	He wanted to sleep with her probably immediately.
	Like, he knew.
	Yeah, he had an objective.
	Of course.
	But I think that objective was on his mind the entire time.
	And I think that was what made him so nervous when he, Sydney, took you up to the rooftop.
	Like, he was thinking about, okay, how do I get from this situation to sleeping with her?
	Instead of focusing on it.
	And he literally said, like, oh, I'm on my way.
	You know what I mean?
	And then he was thinking about it before that.
	Yeah, he was probably thinking about it the whole time.
	The entire time.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	The thing is, though, is that, I mean, a lot of you girls said that more often than not, you're the ones that initiate the first kiss.
	I think most men...
	I mean, I definitely have done it before.
	Well, sure, maybe you've done it before, but I think most guys' experience, if they don't make the move, and that could be at any step along the way, if they don't ask for the girl's number, if they don't plan the date, if they don't set up the date, if they don't approach the girl, if they don't handle the logistics for the date, if they don't start, if they don't carry the conversation, if they don't go for the first kiss, if they don't escalate things forward sexually, if they don't move, well, all the way to the finish line, let's say.
	If they don't take every single step or make every single step along the way, it's not going to happen.
	That's the experience of a lot of guys.
	It's certainly been my experience where I feel like for the vast majority of interactions that I have with women, if I don't make the move, it's not happening.
	Totally fair.
	No, but it's fair.
	It's actually very fair to say that.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	Because we know this, girls, all of us know this, that if a guy doesn't make the move on us, we're going to feel less inclined to, you know, want to hang out with them because we feel like based off of societal standards, the guy should be the first person.
	But also, if she wants you that bad, she will make the move.
	That's true.
	That's just how it goes.
	That is a fact.
	Like, we can read, like, I feel like I can read like body language very well.
	And, like, I don't know.
	If somebody likes me and if I like them back, like, I can make that move knowing that they want it to.
	And I wouldn't make that move if I didn't see that they didn't want it, like, want it as well.
	So I can say this: of most of the reaction or interactions I've had with women, I'll say this.
	If I never made the first move, it would just, it would have never happened.
	I know where you're coming from.
	It would have never happened.
	So, but, but, so I have to, maybe it would have, right?
	Maybe it would have, but I have to, if it falls on me to make the move.
	Because if I don't, what happened with her is going to be what happened with me.
	Honestly, I think it's to each of their own, like, if you're going to make a move, make a move.
	But, like, but men don't have the privilege of just waiting around.
	We don't, y'all can just go to a car or sorry, go to a club, go to a bar, go to a party, guys will come to you.
	Guys, guys will make the move.
	Yeah, but I don't expect that.
	I mean, if I see a guy, like, then I'll make the move.
	I don't need a guy to come up to me and make sit himself.
	Brian, I'll be honest with you.
	The relationship, the best relationships of my life that I've had were relationships where the girl wanted me so much that she made it really clear to me.
	And when I contrast those relationships with the ones where I was like chasing after girls, it was like a way different experience.
	And so I 100% agree.
	Like that's what happened to my friend.
	What Brian's saying is valid.
	Like the impetus is almost entirely on dudes, but women do make if a girl likes a guy enough, she's gonna make a move.
	She's gonna make a move.
	I mean, I would agree with you in that definitely the relationships of my long-term relationships, the girls have met me a bit more towards, like, they've put in more effort.
	But I mean, for even most of them, I'm still the one going for it.
	Yeah.
	I'm still the one.
	I'm going for the first kiss.
	I'm moving things forward.
	Oh, yeah.
	Same, same.
	I mean, the times where the girls pursued me a bit off the bat, like, they like made their interest to me known.
	And then it was like, all right, Chase, ball's in your court.
	What are you going to do with this now?
	And it was entirely on me to drive the relationship.
	And I would have been uncomfortable, honestly, if like a girl was like coming on to me, like trying to make out with me all this stuff, and I wasn't feeling into it.
	Like, they made their interest known, and then it was like, all right, Chase, what's your move?
	Would you call that a gender role?
	That like the guy has to make the first move?
	I don't believe that.
	would i call it like would you yeah i'd call it into our society that guys make the first move yeah i think it's like We can't do anything to change that.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	You can't do anything to change that.
	Okay, we are, what, seven people sitting in a room together talking about an ongoing issue.
	Oh, broadly speaking.
	Exactly.
	We can talk about it, sure, but what's going to change?
	Well, the thing is, is that why being initiated upon puts you in a stronger not that?
	Okay.
	Being initiated upon puts you in a, let's say, a stronger negotiating position.
	Yes.
	So you have what I don't blame women for not initiating because, frankly, you don't have to.
	Because if you don't, the guys will.
	So I think that's.
	There's no need for you to initiate.
	I don't think there's no blame to put on anyone for initiating it first or not.
	I think it's just a natural thing that if someone wants to initiate it before then, like a guy or a girl, like you can initiate it if you feel that.
	I mean, it's not a guy's role or it's a girl's role.
	I think it's just who wants to do it first.
	Honestly.
	I also think like women, I've heard from so many women, like they like being pursued.
	Yeah, of course.
	to each their own i i feel like it's like you guys do you guys like being appreciated by a guy that you like I can pursue it.
	I really do.
	I like being pursued.
	Like, I do.
	But at the same time, if I see a guy that I really like think is like attractive and cute and I like his personality, like I don't blame myself.
	Like I don't feel bad if he doesn't come up to me.
	Like I would much rather introduce myself than just let him walk away.
	Do you do that?
	I have done that.
	How many times have you done that?
	I do it.
	I actually, I have done it multiple times.
	Can you say the microphone just a bit that way?
	I don't have any shame in it.
	It's just like, hey, like, this is my name.
	Like, how are you?
	Do you do that more frequently than the guy does, though?
	Um, no.
	More frequently, the guy, obviously, but, like, I've definitely done it when, like, he hasn't come up to me, and I'm just like, okay, like, but it's almost doing myself thing as well.
	Like, I mean, if you, like, introduce yourself, I mean, obviously they're going to talk, and I think they want to know more about you when you're like, oh, hey, this is who I am.
	Let me lay it all, like, out on the table, you know?
	I mean, like, I think that it's not a big deal if a guy comes up to you first or a girl comes up to you first.
	I feel like it's.
	Yeah.
	So I have a really, like, juicy and productive question for this conversation on this subject.
	What's like the smoothest, most natural way a guy has like ever approached you, asked you guys out?
	I'm sorry.
	They compliment what I'm wearing and usually they compliment my glasses because it's already in my eyes.
	And they go, oh my God, I love your glasses.
	Those are so sick.
	And they'll already talk to me and then they'll just start the conversation.
	It's smooth because it's like they could be coming to me as a friend.
	And so it's kind of, I'm already open already.
	And then they hit on me within the next five minutes.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	Before we do that, I just, we got to get caught up on some super chats here.
	Thank you for the nice frames.
	Thank you.
	That's exactly what I was just going to talk about.
	Okay, Matt Gosselin with the $20 Super Chat.
	Chase is the man.
	Damn.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Appreciate you, bro.
	Yo, you're the man for supporting Brian's podcast with 20 bucks.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Really appreciate it.
	Really appreciate it.
	And yes, Chase is in fact the man.
	Thanks, bro.
	Sinaj?
	Sinaj with the, I believe, Australian $10, man.
	Well, thank you from Down Under.
	Much appreciated.
	Hey, Brian, been a fan for a long time.
	Hopefully this podcast gains some steam because you've obviously put a lot of work into it.
	Also, big fan of Chase.
	So based on my blushing right now, you guys.
	He's all red.
	Yeah, amen.
	Thank you, guys.
	Yeah, hey, thank you for the Australian $10.
	And yeah, definitely put a lot of work into the podcast, into the studio space.
	I thought I'd get going in two weeks.
	It took me six months to get everything set up and figured out.
	So yeah, definitely put in a ton of work, probably like $70,000 in the red on this whole venture.
	So yeah, really appreciate the support, man.
	Yo, if you guys like the effort that Brian has put into this podcast, type whatever takes over in all caps and put it in the freaking chat, y'all.
	Start spamming it.
	Dude, they do it every time.
	Put some eggplants in there, too.
	Okay.
	Mike Davis, $10 Super Chat.
	Chase, the type of dude to break over.
	Break up over girls.
	Oh, break up over grace.
	Thanks for your love.
	It'll do great.
	It's when you were talking about a certain thing.
	It was telephony.
	We saw it.
	That's hella phony.
	Hey, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Chase, you want to shoot back or what?
	I mean, dude, he's probably right.
	And Mike, yo, thanks for the roast.
	Thanks for supporting Brian's podcast.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Appreciate it.
	Walker with the nine British pounds.
	LOL, the girls are tired of the DMs being bombarded by the creeps of the chats.
	All their Instagrams are private.
	Chatout, Oakland.
	We don't roll.
	Let you know.
	We don't roll.
	like that wait walker if you're in oakland why are you wait how are you Brian, look at the chat.
	That's crazy.
	Look at the chat.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Look at the chat.
	Jeez.
	Whatever takes over.
	Oh, my God.
	Sounds good.
	Eggplant.
	There it is, man.
	Just make sure we don't miss any super chats in that.
	Wait, so British Pounds, but he's in Oakland.
	Walker, can you explain that one?
	Is there an Oakland?
	Walker, what's up with that, dog?
	There's an Oakland 99%.
	Is there an Oakland in Brittany?
	There's an Oakland and Walker.
	Thank you, man.
	Andrew Tate with the $5 Super Chat.
	If airplane pilot is a female, I'm jumping out the plane.
	Also enrolled to, okay.
	Andrew Tate with the shameless plug.
	Hella phonies.
	Oops.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Andrew Tate.
	Andrew Tate.
	You can Andrew Turkish.
	Vial Rontala with the, I believe that's Colombian pesos.
	I could be wrong with the 40,000.
	Can someone let me know in the chat?
	I believe that's, I'm guessing.
	But thank you, man, for the super chat.
	Oh, Sydney.
	Yo, Violet was saying that he would save himself for the first time.
	Let me just read it.
	I'll do the same as Chase did for the girl with the ring on the nose.
	She's so cute and hot.
	Joined later.
	Give me her IG.
	She can hang out with me anytime.
	Her IG, it's in the description.
	Did you have a response?
	Don't be nervous, man.
	Don't be nervous.
	He's brutally honest.
	You said you were brutally honest.
	You got this.
	Look at that cat profile photo.
	So cute.
	I'm a dog person.
	Okay.
	I mean, I love all animals, but like, no, I'm sorry.
	All right.
	Hey, by the way, thank you for the super sticker.
	Much appreciated.
	Why don't you let us know what currency that is?
	I'm curious.
	I believe it's Columbian Pace.
	No, but I could be wrong.
	Super sticker.
	$2,900.
	Okay, thank you for the.
	Hey, Vial, thanks for supporting Brian's.
	Yo, Edward Skornfield is back.
	Okay, we might have to bump it to 20 if this guy blasts it.
	Oh, he's been blasting.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	Let's go.
	But it's not too many, so it's okay.
	I feel for men around Santa Barbara, it's like these girls can't not say like, like every other word they like, say like every time.
	Like, like.
	It's nauseating.
	Like, Edward Skornfield, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Hey, man, sometimes I say it too.
	They're rubbing off on me, man.
	It's bad.
	California girls.
	But yeah, definitely.
	By the way, Edward, open invitation if you want to come on the show, man.
	Edward Skornfield with the second $10 Super Chat.
	Dude in Gray, not the host, definitely gives into women's frame by speaking in this manner.
	He's wearing blue.
	I think Edward Scornfield is colorblind.
	He might be going to say that.
	He might be slightly colorful.
	I'm curious what Edward thought I was giving into the women's frame on.
	Do you guys have any idea?
	I couldn't pick up on it.
	I read it earlier.
	I didn't understand.
	I think it was during the therapy session at the beginning.
	Okay.
	Edward Scornfield with the $10 Super Chat, as in the dude in gray, say like, like all the time, like all the chicks who have infected.
	Do I say like a log?
	I think I say.
	I don't mean I say like.
	Yeah, I think it's just blurred out whenever I hear like Edward Skornfield.
	Hey, you're right, man.
	Like, I can't believe you're like that.
	Edward, can you, like, explain, like, what you mean?
	Like, like, come on, man.
	All right, and then we have, oops, sorry.
	Get it back up.
	Vile Rantala with the, like.
	Has anybody seen in the chat what the Colombia?
	Okay, nice.
	I got it right.
	Okay.
	So, like, Brian screwed it up with Erica facts.
	I'm still feeling the pain on it.
	I watched that video and cry at night.
	Me too.
	You, Brian, noob too.
	Like the guy asking Sidney for a kiss, noobsters.
	Noobsters.
	Hey, dude.
	Yo, what happened?
	What is he talking about?
	Oh, so, yeah, basically, I did this video a long time ago called, Will You Be My Valentine?
	I walked around Santa Barbara City College and asked people to be my Valentine.
	And one of the interactions in particular was with this girl named Erica.
	Everyone was in love with her.
	She was like this really sweet girl.
	And I released the behind the scenes footage, which is on my second channel, by the way, guys, if you want to watch it.
	But absolutely, I don't think I dropped the ball, but I, you know, I'm doing a YouTube video, so I reveal to her after the fact.
	And everyone's like, oh, Brian, you shouldn't have done that.
	You should have taken her out for Valentine's.
	So, but yeah, definitely noob status for sure.
	What was your follow-up?
	Did you say, but do you still want to be my fiancé anyway?
	Well, she was definitely babe status.
	So I was like, you know what?
	I am doing a video, but maybe we could on the 14th, you know, let's maybe.
	So I got her number and then just, I don't know, she wasn't.
	Oh, she fell through.
	No.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, and then I saw her a couple times.
	And then, anyways, that's great.
	Yeah, so, but yeah, I definitely.
	Pain.
	But you know what?
	If you, what's the term?
	Don't chase, replace.
	I mean, so.
	Oh, like that.
	I mean, if she's not into it, whatever.
	Yeah.
	On to the next one.
	But yeah, everyone lambasts me in the comments for the behind the scenes video.
	So, okay.
	Mike Hawk with the $5 soup chat.
	Okay.
	Drink every time someone says like.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
	I'll take the IG of the twins.
	It's in the description.
	Check them out.
	Send them a DM.
	Oh, my God.
	This is hella phony.
	They sound impressionable with daddy issues.
	Oh, wow.
	Just the type that fall for me.
	And if one goes south, I always got a rebound.
	You're not really savage.
	All right.
	By the way, Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis is a very wealthy businessman.
	And he's very.
	I don't know if you see his profile photo, but look at that.
	He's got some nice facial hair.
	He's got some nice smile.
	You got to see that face on the podcast.
	Are we talking about the seeking arrangements thing again?
	Yes.
	He's on the off we are.
	Doubt it.
	And now a message from our sponsor.
	Okay.
	Pill Cosby with the $2.
	If she's in your house, you can remove the blouse.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, sorry, we got.
	Okay.
	By the way, just a reminder, guys, 10 and over.
	Edward Scornfield with $10 Super Chat.
	I couldn't go on your show, bro.
	I'd like to have a chance.
	I'd like to get to the camera.
	I'd like totally get canceled immediately, you know?
	Here, I got something for you.
	Okay, thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Like I said, we will extend the same offer that we did to Mike Davis.
	If you want to come, we can put you in a disguise.
	Fake name.
	Mike, we need you on here, man.
	Mike, masquerade ball, one of those masks.
	We want to see if you talk to the same person.
	Some of the super chats.
	So, where were we?
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, ask us more questions.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I've had a bunch I've wanted to ask, but the condo's just kind of been going taking up your team.
	You can ask now.
	All right.
	So, what was it?
	We were talking about initiative.
	So, you guys, more often than not, are you initiating or is the guy initiating?
	So, I will say before, more often they would initiate, but now, like, if we're talking about like going to a club or something and I see a guy that I like and he's not coming up to me within like five minutes, I'll go up to him.
	I don't need to wait for that.
	Oh, my God, is he going to come up to me?
	Like, no, I'll just go up to him.
	We'll start the conversation.
	But then, after that, it's kind of like, are they putting in an effort to talk to me?
	Are they putting in an effort to actually come see me?
	Or is it kind of like a what are you doing at like 12 a.m?
	So I initiate at first and then I guess I die out.
	Wait, okay, you so you're 24, you've never had a long-term relationship.
	Yeah, let's talk about it.
	What are your standards for a man?
	My standards?
	Yeah, what are you looking for in a guy?
	What are your standards?
	Question.
	I feel like when you guys are talking about how, like, when you're in a relationship and you get out of it, you can finally see what you want.
	I feel like I don't know what I want until I see it.
	And so, I want a guy that kind of takes care of me, but also that I can kind of take care of as well.
	Like, not all about, oh, I need to be taken care of, I need to be paid for.
	I need to be like, you said, would you open the door for a guy?
	Yeah, I would.
	I would take care of him too.
	But if he does it for me, so I guess reciprocation.
	Okay.
	Reciprocation.
	So.
	That wasn't a good answer.
	What about how tall would you want?
	Okay, that's a good question.
	So I'm 5'9.
	I'm very tall.
	I'm taller than the average girl.
	You are taller.
	I felt big my whole life.
	So that's like a personally, I need them to be taller.
	It's not like because I'm tall.
	It's because I felt like big my whole life.
	So I need someone to be at least like six foot because I'm 5'9 and I wear heels.
	I'm 6'1 in heels.
	I'm okay with being an inch taller than you, but I don't know.
	I want to feel smaller.
	So 6 feet bare minimum.
	But is that still short?
	Is six feet still short for you?
	Six foot is like normal to me.
	6'1 is like perfect, I guess.
	And then 5'11, I'll still date, but like I'm aware I'm gonna be barefoot at my wedding.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Really quick, we'll go around the table on the height thing.
	Sorry, my earring fell out.
	Okay, twin.
	I was ready.
	Wait, so what do you want to know about height-wise?
	Like, do we go for it?
	Yeah, just ideal height.
	I mean, ideal height is over six, bro.
	Damn, how to play?
	So, okay, we'll start here.
	Okay.
	You literally said shorter girls like taller guys.
	I totally wrote it.
	I told about this.
	So much to say.
	So for you, how tall are you, and what's your ideal height in the guy?
	I am 5'4.
	And ideal height.
	Like, what height would you like your guy to be to sleep with or date or be in a relationship with?
	I really don't care if I'm being totally honest.
	So you date a guy shorter than you?
	Not shorter than me, no.
	Okay, so what's the minimum height?
	Okay.
	Minimum height, 5'7.
	Okay.
	5'8.
	That's fair.
	How tall are you?
	5'4.
	She's 5'4.
	For me, I'm 5'2.
	Into the microphone, please.
	I'm 5'2.
	And yes, I don't mind a short king.
	All short kings.
	Wait, you just hold on.
	You just said you wanted to kill me.
	But no, but I'm saying I don't mind them.
	But I do prefer someone over 6'0.
	So what's the minimum?
	What's the minimum?
	Minimum.
	How tall was your toxic ex.
	Probably like fucking like.
	He was so short.
	No, but like, I like a 6'4 guy.
	6'4?
	Yes, because my last relationship, I was with a 6'4 guy.
	By the way, they're not gonna see me there, Chase.
	I know, I just can't see.
	He was so big, like perfect, and I looked exactly the same everything.
	And one was 6'4 and one was like a little shorter.
	Obviously, the 6'4.
	I would go with the 6'4.
	Okay.
	And then you?
	Amazing.
	I'm 5'2.
	And honestly, I don't really, I mean, I guess I would like to be with a guy that's taller than me.
	But my minimum would be like 5'7, 5'8.
	Like, I don't really care.
	I work with whatever I got.
	How tall was your ex-boyfriend?
	He was probably, I'd say 5'11.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	So height's one.
	Let's talk a bit about some other things.
	So for your life partner, husband, if you ever want to have that.
	I know you got a lot of you.
	I mean, you're 24, right?
	And then you guys are 19, 20?
	19.
	Okay.
	So you're probably not at the moment really eyeballing this is going to be my life partner I'm going to spend the rest of my life with.
	But let's say maybe for you guys, as you get a bit older, let's say when you're in your mid-20s or something, how much money would you like your partner to earn per year?
	Bare minimum.
	So, like, preferred or need.
	Do both.
	Okay.
	so personally I don't need them to make they need to have a job but I don't need them to make a certain amount of money So you can work at Chick-fil-A?
	I mean, if it makes them happy, because I'm going to be making a lot of money.
	Like, I already know that for a fact.
	So would you be okay in a situation where you're the breadwinner and you're supporting him?
	Are they a stay-at-home dad?
	And they're doing stuff.
	they're not just sitting at the house like just chilling and doing nothing i mean that is sure Why not?
	you'd be okay with yeah as long as they're doing stuff that like is actually going towards something yeah that's fine but But personally, so with my ex, he did make a lot of money and then paid for all of my stuff.
	Wait, he didn't make a lot of money?
	He did make a lot of money.
	Oh, so he paid for everything.
	Yeah, so he paid for, but I didn't want him to.
	Okay.
	So, but then going into that relationship and having that stability and having that, like, oh my God, like, this could be my future, it felt nice.
	So, I mean, to live alone in Orange County, because that's where I'm from, Irvine, you have to make a six-figure salary, no matter what, to even live in an apartment by yourself.
	So, I guess six-figures minimum.
	But that's just because where I live.
	But, like, what do you want?
	How much do you?
	By the way, I mean, Chase, we can't see you if you're.
	Bro, it's either like I can't see it.
	You can't see the screen.
	No, I can't see the screen at all.
	Tristan's in the way.
	There's just not enough space.
	Jesus is too wide, man.
	All right, well.
	If Tristan is scoot, if you scoot like a few inches back.
	Spilling up the screen.
	If you stay there, that works.
	Okay, let's do that.
	So, bare minimum, six figures.
	But 100K, 500K, what?
	So I'm 24, so I'm thinking 100 for now, but when I get older, it'll go up.
	Okay.
	Sydney?
	Can you repeat the question one more time?
	Sure.
	Yeah, so for your life partner or husband, let's say as you get into your mid-20s, late 20s, how much money would you like him to earn per year, bare minimum?
	So I've actually thought about this a lot.
	Like, not like recently, but like when I was probably like 15, 16, when like I started thinking about like, oh, like, like one day I'm going to be married.
	Like, I mean, I was thinking about that like way earlier in life, you know, when I was like a kid, you know, in like elementary school and middle school, because like you always fantasize like about, you know, like you're like dream guy when you like watch movies and stuff.
	And like, I think my opinion has definitely changed a lot about like, you know, like, oh, like, I want like a guy who's making like so much money so we can have like a big house, we can have a lot of kids and like a bunch of dogs and like cool cars and stuff.
	But I think my values have changed a lot since then, you know, and like you don't need a lot to be happy.
	You don't need money to be happy, right?
	So as long as like I'm in a good relationship with myself and with my partner, I don't really think it matters how much we make as long as you know there's a roof under our head, we have food, we have water, clothes on our back, whatever.
	Because everything else kind of goes out the window if like you're not happy.
	That's super wholesome.
	You think so?
	Yeah, I mean, but I fully feel like Sydney, I feel like you have your priorities straight.
	I appreciate that.
	And that's actually the best compliment that I get.
	Not like, oh, like, are you, like, you're attractive?
	You know, like, hey, like, you're really intelligent.
	Like, you're very wise.
	Like, you're very mature for your age.
	You're very responsible.
	And you know exactly what you want, just like you said.
	I mean, thank you guys.
	You put together.
	Appreciate it.
	So you don't care about money.
	Or you wouldn't care about money at all?
	No.
	I mean, listen.
	No, she said as long as he puts a roof over her head.
	He doesn't need to put a roof over my head as long as we can do it together.
	Because I know I'm not going to sit around and do nothing.
	I'm not going to let somebody run, you know, everything on their own.
	I need to be productive.
	I need structure in my life.
	If I'm not working, I don't feel okay with myself.
	So that's why I'm always needing work.
	I'm always needing to make money.
	Because I don't want someone to just support me like.
	You like British Patriots?
	British Patriots comment was funny.
	Listen, I mean, I think all these other girls here are very responsible.
	Reasonable.
	Oh, I thought that's not responsible.
	I'm sorry.
	Reasonable.
	Reasonable.
	Reasonable one.
	Listen, though, I think we're all reasonable.
	I think there's a lot.
	Stop lying to her.
	Chase, are you lying to me?
	No.
	No, I thought that was a very wholesome answer.
	And I meant what I said.
	I think you have your priorities straight.
	Because there's a lot of chicks out there.
	Very materialistic.
	Honestly, I think this whole group in general is a little bit out of the, like, I feel like you guys do have priorities straight.
	And you guys do think a little differently than what most women would think.
	Yeah.
	We're also not from here.
	I don't know if that matters, but.
	That's true.
	I mean, it makes a big difference.
	Yeah.
	I've met Chicago.
	Thank you.
	I've met a lot of girls from down near LA and stuff and like super materialistic priorities on.
	100%.
	It's all about what you can give me.
	Blinded by the lights.
	I don't like that.
	Let's open it up to the twins.
	Bare minimum for a guy to make per year.
	I mean, honestly, like what Sidney was saying, I want to work as well.
	And I don't think a guy can truly make me happy.
	I'm not going to put all my eggs in one basket where I like rely on him to make money, like to support what?
	Like me and my family.
	Like I want to support myself financially.
	I think I can do it for myself.
	So I'm not going to depend on someone else to really do that for me.
	Because I grew up having a mom who she always taught me like, you know, you can't depend on someone else to support you financially.
	And like us both, I mean, we've grown up like understanding that.
	And I don't think that I would rely on a guy anytime soon or even in the midst.
	Mid-20s, late 30s.
	No, I think I'm always going to have my own individual, you know, income.
	Exactly.
	What are you studying in school?
	I mean, I want to be a teacher, but I also want to major in bio.
	So I think I'm going to do it.
	What do you want to do for work?
	Be a teacher.
	Be a teacher?
	I don't want to teach kids.
	Okay.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Some amazing guy comes along.
	Super confident, super funny.
	Loves you a lot.
	He's handsome.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What?
	What, Sydney?
	Where does reading go?
	Sorry.
	Oh, just reading Kitty.
	So super confident, super funny.
	He's handsome.
	And he is just like super in love with you.
	And he wants to put a ring on your finger.
	Yes.
	And he doesn't want you to work.
	What do you say to that?
	He's going to provide for you.
	Yes.
	He's going to provide for you.
	Yeah, 100%.
	I mean, like, I'd love to be a stay-at-home mom.
	I mean, I'm not going to do that.
	So in that instance, hold on, would you like to do that?
	Yeah, in that instant, yes, I would love to do that, but I'm not going to depend on a guy to do myself.
	You can't be a stay-at-home mom unless you have a partner that can enable you to do that.
	I know I just put forward that situation.
	He said if he was willing to give her that lifestyle, would she take it?
	I mean, I'm pretty sure, would you all take that?
	If a guy was willing to provide for you, you don't really have to worry.
	You can be a stay-at-home mom.
	I mean, would you take it?
	You've been there.
	I mean, I've been in a situation where I've had an ex-boyfriend, and he was like, he had a lot of money, clearly.
	And he'd always ask me, oh, like if we were to be together, like I could take care of you.
	And I'd always be like, I don't necessarily need you.
	I don't want to need you.
	I want to be the person that makes my own money.
	I don't want to depend on you.
	I don't want to have to struggle if we were to be able to do it.
	I want to get married to you, though.
	Would that change things?
	No, no.
	I would have to.
	I think it's her personal want to actually be able to.
	I want to be able to be at a stable financial situation with my own self.
	And no matter how much someone says, oh, I'll give you the world.
	You don't have to work.
	You can do whatever you want to do.
	I will still work for myself.
	Now, let's say you're getting into your later 20s and you meet a guy and he wants to have kids with you.
	Are you going to keep that same energy?
	Yeah, same energy always.
	My mom was a single mother and my father was very financially stable at the time and he told her the same things.
	And honestly, when they divorced, she was on her own.
	And she has always taught me the same thing over and over and over again was she wanted me to be able to be strong for myself.
	She kept working and she kept like a bad person.
	Yeah, she kept working and she grinded for three kids and we're both at similar ages.
	She had to pay for college for all of us at the same time for high school and for our own apartments.
	And she grinds.
	And so that's someone that I look up to like and I'll always be that person.
	All right, we got a chat here from Stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Rate our own.
	Oh, you know what?
	Maybe we should wait until the other.
	Until she's back.
	The other one.
	The other one is.
	She has a name.
	I keep mixing them up.
	It's okay.
	It took me eight years.
	Eight years.
	Yeah.
	Eight.
	We've been friends for eight years.
	Okay, we'll see.
	We'll come back to that one.
	We'll come back to that one.
	I still want to hear the answers to the question I asked you guys.
	Wait, what was the question?
	What was the question?
	My question to you guys, we could do it after we go to Brian's question if you guys want, was like the your guys' examples of like the smoothest, most natural times when the guy pursued you.
	Yeah, you gave me yours.
	I was curious to hear from you guys though.
	I forgot about that one.
	Oh my god, that was so loud.
	Do you want to do the rate the looks one first?
	Oh, well, she's gone, so we.
	Okay, so we'll do the bro, the collective bladder control.
	Okay.
	Okay, yeah, I have a small bladder.
	Can we all just say it?
	Let's just move on.
	Sorry.
	God damn.
	Okay.
	Smoothest thing?
	Yeah, like, like, give me an example of a time where, like, a guy, like, asked you out.
	It felt very natural.
	He did a really good job of it.
	Like, what did he do?
	Oh, my God.
	So I think I mentioned this previously, actually.
	When we were talking about like the whole like, you know, making money thing, and you said something to me about like how I don't, I forgot exactly what you said, you know, like verbatim, I don't remember, so I'm not going to say it.
	But I think when a guy comes up to me and says, like, like the way that I come off, you know, like my energy.
	So in that situation, he like mentioned my intelligence.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Like, like, they like the way that I think, you know, the way that I speak.
	I think that's like, that's such a, you know, turn on for me.
	As in like comparison to like if they started complimenting like your physical looks, you'd prefer absolutely.
	I would, honestly, because like I know I'm a good-looking girl.
	You know, I know for sure.
	That's not like something I have to question.
	I don't look in the mirror and be like, oh.
	You're a fucking liar.
	Fuck you.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Yeah, no, I genuinely believe that, you know, I'm a pretty girl.
	My mom tells me all the time, you know, so I don't need to.
	You got that self-reassurance.
	You don't need that guy to tell you that you look good.
	So you just want to be.
	I mean, I've been through some heavy shit, you know, and I had to find my self-worth in that process.
	And it took me a really long time.
	And sometimes I still like, I forget about that.
	You know, sometimes I will look at myself and be like, you could fix these things about yourself, but that's why I continuously work on myself.
	You know, but like when a guy really like goes over how you look and appreciates your wisdom and what you have to give, you know, I think that's really, really important.
	So much more valuable.
	Absolutely.
	My question to you is not what's well, first off, let me just say that that resonates with me too.
	That's one of my favorite things to get complimented on because your looks, that's like surface value.
	You're not really like earning it, so to speak, right?
	You can earn it.
	Well, with your looks, you can being myself is that just comes like naturally, though.
	Like, if like I can try to like make myself look good, right?
	Yeah.
	I can change the way I look by putting on some makeup or like, you know, when you get complimented on your intelligence, they're complimenting you for who you truly are.
	Exactly, and that's way more meaningful.
	Absolutely.
	My question was not like, like, what's this move?
	Yeah, like, how?
	How does a guy do that?
	Like, have you, has a guy done that to you, like a stranger?
	Yeah, actually.
	Like, what did he say?
	What did he say?
	I don't fully remember exactly what he said.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	No, that's okay.
	I hope I can answer that.
	I wanted to ask that question because I feel like there's probably a number of dudes that are listening to these podcasts trying to figure out how to maybe be better with women or learn more about women and stuff.
	And we talked about how dudes get nervous making the first moves and how guys need to make the first move.
	And so I figured I'd tee you guys up to give the bros some examples of times when guys have made really good moves on you guys so that they could the guys listening could be like oh okay yeah for me I think it's mostly like if you bring like a good energy and like are true to yourself and like just bring that like that fun I feel like any girl would want you if you're just like you know Can you give an example though?
	Can you give an example?
	Yeah, give an example.
	Honestly, I just, I got to come in on this.
	You don't ask the fish how to fish.
	You ask the fisherman.
	But you can also ask the fish how they got.
	What has worked, you know?
	Exactly.
	I mean.
	You said she had a good answer.
	Your answer really sucks.
	No, no, she was saying like that.
	How the guy is.
	You're saying what kind of energy to bring.
	That's curious.
	But I'm asking, like, what was the line?
	What did he say?
	Right?
	Like, a smooth thing that a guy said to you to get your number or to ask you out, right?
	Like, that's where God.
	Because let me tell you something.
	For guys, oftentimes, if I see a really attractive girl out in public and I'm like, damn, she's like amazing.
	I'll get in my head, like, how do I open with her?
	Okay, but how do you?
	Well, the best way for me is like, if I'm in the store, for example, maybe I'll see something in her cart and I'll comment on it.
	Like, what?
	You have really good eggs in your basket.
	No, like, if she has, like, if she has like grass-fed steak or something, like, I might ask her what kind of, you know, cut steak she got or something like that.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Are you organic?
	Oh, I love you already.
	It could be anything.
	It's anything to spark up the conversation.
	So it's you spark up your conversation based on what she has in her basket.
	It's literally just anything.
	At a grocery store.
	You pick anything.
	The point is that you find something.
	She could be wearing a bag.
	She could be wearing a t-shirt for a band, and if I like that band, I'll ask her what their favorite song is.
	No, I understand.
	99% of the time, the girls don't actually listen to the band.
	They just think a Led Zeppelin shirt is cool.
	Yeah.
	But occasionally you find one that does.
	The point of asking the question, though, is what good lines have you guys received?
	And I guess you guys don't have any.
	Yeah, I haven't had good pickup lines where a guy is just super like cheesy.
	I've never had that.
	It's more cheese.
	You don't either.
	I don't think that I've necessarily had a cheesy pickup line.
	It's not like a cheesy pickup.
	That's what I was trying to say.
	Something that's like people have come up to me and be like, like they're like, oh, you're gorgeous.
	Like, what's your name?
	But that's just like.
	Step one, be attractive.
	Step two, don't be unattractive.
	That's just overused.
	So it's just like a little bit of a test.
	That was why I asked the question.
	If you comment on someone's personality and how they look, like say your eyes are beautiful or like, your eyes are so big, they're so good.
	And like, maybe that's great.
	I got a good one.
	I got a good one.
	What about clavicles?
	Oh, clavicles.
	You've got great clavicles.
	Every girl at this table.
	Great clavicles.
	That's not my style.
	Usually when I'm out at a party and they'll see me with my friends and like being lit, they'll come up to me and be like, I really love your vibe.
	Like, what's your name?
	Yeah.
	And I like that.
	Do you guys like daggers?
	That's a good example.
	Do we like what?
	Do you guys like daggers?
	Daggers.
	What's a dagger?
	Like a knife?
	No.
	Like a dagger.
	Like, I don't like a dagger.
	A dagger.
	What if a guy came up to you and said he'd like to do nothing more but smear you with green paint and spank you like a disobedient avocado?
	I would call for my friends to try and get it.
	Yeah, I would leave.
	I would leave.
	That's not a good one.
	Nobody would ever say that.
	That's horrible.
	Who would ever say, like, I will never talk to you again?
	I think they would run.
	Okay.
	Would you say that you call me on our personality?
	Yeah, would you say that?
	I think I said it once or twice.
	You seem so confident about that pickup line.
	What was that?
	Has it ever worked, Brian?
	It was for a video.
	What was that one that you hearted from Mike Davis?
	Oh my God.
	I don't know.
	This is ridiculous.
	I just want to ask this question, but everyone needs to keep going.
	To be fair, I went to the bathroom too.
	The whole talking delusional, you're so.
	While she's gone, we'll just do super chats.
	Yeah.
	Let's start from the top.
	Hold on.
	Damn.
	Shooting shots at you.
	I'll do that to you.
	No, but I actually have something to say about that that actually is like really, really interesting.
	We'll get to it.
	Edward Scornfield, $10 Super Chat.
	Oh, guys, if only you knew, it's very easy to clown people who are living life on easy mode, who think they got something figured out.
	Not speaking on the host at all.
	You're a G for putting this together.
	We don't understand.
	Thank you.
	I'll know what that's in response for.
	Oh, guys, if only you knew, it's very easy to clown people who are living life on easy mode who think they got something figured out.
	Are you saying they have things figured out?
	I think they're saying people who are delusional thinking they have things figured out.
	It's easy to kind of go in and try to get it.
	But Edward, thank you for the $10 soup.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Okay, Val Rantala, thank you for the Colombian 20,000 Colombian pesos.
	What girls think about dating Latinos?
	Find me in Latino, Lover Online as Chimicha's Pepito nickname.
	Will they date one or have date one already?
	Okay, really quick, what do you guys think about Latino men?
	I love Latinos.
	I do too.
	A little bit too much.
	Me and my twin sister are Latinas.
	Okay.
	I don't care.
	Their DMs are open, Vile.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
	Girls want a triple six.
	Man, six figures, six feet, and six inches.
	Side note, white shirt, twin, and Sydney got something going on.
	No objection.
	Just let me watch.
	Wait.
	Yep.
	Go for it.
	No, listen.
	That's perfect.
	People have thought in the past, like, whatever.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
	Sydney talking delusional.
	You're so intelligent.
	I love the way you think.
	Said every simp ever.
	Put on 40 pounds and see if men compliment your intelligence.
	This is why game is so easy.
	Two years ago, I weighed 160.
	Now I'm 120.
	It's different, huh?
	And I was still getting complimented on my personality.
	Do you think that more guys approach you though?
	Because I think, yes, I was thick.
	I mean, I went, I got like sent away to a boarding school and they just made us eat.
	Oh, I thought you were about to say you got sent away the fat can.
	No, is 160 really that heavy?
	No.
	At 5'4.
	I mean, I was probably like, that's pretty much it.
	That's pretty heavy.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I mean, these two saw me.
	You got some muscle, though.
	You got some muscles.
	I had a lot of fun.
	You can't really depict off of the numbers.
	Yeah, Sydney is still sick.
	She got some muscle.
	She's red.
	She's red.
	Oh, okay.
	There we go.
	I don't know.
	I was on the swim team.
	I was a gymnast.
	Okay.
	Whatever.
	She's beardless.
	Nice.
	So it's all muscle.
	All right.
	But did you, did that kind of wrap up your response to Mike Davis?
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're wrong.
	By the way, just in the mic.
	Okay.
	So we are doing, we need to get to this one.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10, okay?
	Looks?
	Yeah.
	I'll say an 8.
	I'm not going to say a 10.
	I'm going to say a 9.
	I'm going to say 8.5.
	Into the mic, please.
	8.5.
	I would say the same, probably like an 8 or 8.5.
	They are twins.
	Okay.
	Chase?
	7.5.
	Tristan?
	8.5.
	6.9 on a good day?
	7.9.
	6.1.
	You know.
	I'm very pale.
	And I need to lose like 10 or 20 pounds.
	Give yourself a 7 at least.
	6.9.
	6.9.
	That's very close.
	There's nothing wrong with saying, like, I don't know, that you look good.
	Like, if you rate yourself high, there's nothing wrong with that.
	I don't think so, Elizabeth.
	I think it's more about confidence within your own body.
	Oh, no.
	That was one more Ryan's favorite.
	People taking bathroom breaks.
	I'm nice.
	Okay, so I think that's it for Super Chats.
	Thank you guys for that.
	Oh, shit.
	Is that what they're asking?
	Finally.
	Dude, it's ready for me.
	It's revealed.
	I don't know why they want to see my hairline for it.
	I think they're just roasting you, dog.
	Are you busting the cat?
	Fortnite.
	I don't even know what that means, but okay.
	Trying to find something on me, bro.
	So, next question.
	Has a guy with a blue check mark ever slid into your DMs?
	Oh, like certified?
	Certified, yeah.
	Blue check.
	No.
	Can I say this on here?
	I'm kind of like dating one.
	Wait, but I thought you were single.
	That's why I said question mark.
	Okay.
	I'm talking to one right now.
	But no, yeah, there's a lot of blue check marks in there.
	I mean, I have like a small following on TikTok and Instagram, so that's probably how they see me.
	Okay.
	You say a lot.
	How many is a lot?
	Well, I have 25.6,000 followers on TikTok, and then I have like 5,000 on Instagram.
	But how many blue check marks?
	Oh, I don't know.
	We just ballpark it.
	We talk about it.
	Like within my lifetime?
	No, no.
	Yeah, sure.
	Just like we talk in 20, 50.
	I'll say like 20.
	20 blue check marks have slid into your DMs.
	Like within, yeah, like a lifespan?
	Yeah, I'll say that.
	What kind of blue checks are these?
	Are these like there's like a Clippers player?
	There's an NFL Super Bowl champion type thing.
	Some like rappers, singers, random producers, stuff like that.
	What kind of opening lines do these guys have?
	They're just talk like normal people, to be honest.
	But like it's just like hi, hey.
	No, if anyone sends me hey, I don't respond.
	Even the blue checks.
	What's normal to you?
	Well, you said normal.
	So if they have to reply and just kind of be like almost taken aback by me, and they're like, oh my god, you're so beautiful.
	Let me take you out.
	I'm like, okay, who is this?
	Let me look at their profile.
	And I'm like, okay.
	How many times have you gone out with blue checks, like different ones?
	I'll say like three to five, maybe?
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So it's honestly like social media.
	Like they find you on.
	Or like I go out to LA a lot and everyone there has blue check marks.
	So yeah.
	What about you ladies?
	Has a blue guy with never ever.
	Nope.
	Maybe they should.
	But have you guys hit him up?
	Oh gosh.
	Maybe the first might happen tonight, guys.
	But you guys have been DM'd out of blue on Instagram by guys before, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And like how many would you say have DM'd you?
	I think it has more of like when I post like a story on my Instagram, a lot more people hit me up.
	But like on the random, like not really.
	How many if you just had to estimate how many guys have DM'd you, what would you say?
	Like in what span of time?
	Past three years.
	A lot?
	Over 100?
	Definitely not over 100.
	Okay.
	Probably like.
	Into the mic, please.
	I don't know, like 30?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Probably like same, maybe like 40 guys.
	Tilt the microphone down just a bit.
	Yeah, maybe like 40 guys.
	I don't know.
	Most of them are just like, do you ever like go in your like DM list and it's like requested where like they like want to hit you up but you don't follow them exactly?
	Sure.
	Yes, and it's more like fake sugar daddies or like something like that.
	I mean it's all my DMs.
	Like, oh, could I pay you like 500 weekly?
	Like all that shit.
	Interesting.
	I'll touch on that in just a sec.
	Sydney, has a guy with a blue check mark ever slid into your DMs?
	Certified.
	Certified.
	I know what it means.
	No.
	Besides whatever.
	Okay.
	To be on the show.
	Exactly.
	Have you?
	But you get DMs, right?
	Yes.
	How many would you say you've gotten the past three years from just guys hitting you up?
	Over 100?
	In the past three years?
	Sure.
	Like on Instagram?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't know the exact number.
	I mean, in the past two years, I was in a relationship and it was meant to be.
	I think probably still DM'd you.
	Yeah, but not often.
	Okay.
	Just because I made it known that I did not want anybody else.
	Like, you know, I had my boyfriend all over my Instagram.
	But so for the past year, you've been single?
	No, the past three months.
	Three months?
	Yeah, whatever.
	Okay.
	I've had like, in the past, like, three years, I want to say like 10.
	10 DMs?
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	It's pretty low-ish.
	Yeah.
	Besides, like, the whole, like, if we're saying, like, that are, like, people, like, that aren't, like, bots, you know, like actual DMs.
	Yeah, I'm talking guys sliding into your DMs.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Okay, like, what's your name?
	Like, let's like, you know, like, there's a clear romantic interest.
	Yeah, like, 10.
	Are you active on Instagram?
	Sometimes.
	Like, I post, but I don't really, like, I don't sit and scroll.
	Like, how often do you post?
	Because I find it surprising that only 10 guys have slid into your DMs.
	I post probably like, maybe like, I mean, like, recently, like, I posted like three times in, like, a month, but I post probably like once every two months.
	How many followers do you have?
	A little over a thousand.
	That's surprising.
	I would think more guys would be.
	Yeah.
	So, Allison, how many, not counting blue check marks, how many guys have DM'd you?
	I don't know.
	Over a thousand?
	Over a thousand?
	I can't even give you an answer.
	I don't respond to a lot of them.
	Okay.
	Over a hundred, though.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	100%.
	So I just to bring it to the guys.
	Chase, has a girl with a blue check mark ever DM'd you?
	Not romantically, but otherwise, yes.
	Okay.
	I don't think romantic.
	What does that mean?
	Like I've done work with like celebrities and stuff.
	Oh, so it was like a business inquiry, but I mean more so like they're sliding into your DMs.
	What about you?
	I'll get there.
	Tristan.
	Romantically, no.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	No blue check marks.
	And then just regular non-blue check mark girls.
	You've gotten a few, right?
	A few DMs.
	Okay.
	But it doesn't sound like it's been only a handful of times, if I recall correctly from the previous times we've spoken on this.
	No, yeah, it was a little more frequent, but like, I wouldn't say it was anything compared to what girls used to.
	That's why I'm really surprised that you guys are like on that low of the number.
	I mean, the thing is, you said a lot, right?
	But you guys are also from Chicago.
	So I'm not sure if it's just the California thing that's like selling.
	I just don't even post that much.
	I post a lot.
	I don't.
	The posting.
	So that's really surprising.
	There will probably be some DMs from time to time.
	Yeah, no.
	Today.
	I'd be curious to know after tonight how many dudes DM you guys.
	We'll definitely let you guys know that.
	I've keep you guys updated.
	Like we've heard back from a lot of the girls from previous shows.
	And like, well, one of the girls, she has an OnlyFans, and we linked it in her description or in the description of the video.
	And she got paid.
	No, yeah.
	She said a whole bunch of people subbed to her and just a bunch of DMs from guys for a couple of the other girls.
	Yeah.
	So you brought up sugar daddy sugar sugar babies.
	Have any of you been in a sugar baby sugar daddy situation?
	No, I get those random like DMs and stuff.
	There are some legitimate ones that I get, but it's mostly like fee pics and stuff.
	They want fee pics.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever sent a fee pic for like 500 bucks or what?
	No.
	Not yet.
	No, I haven't.
	But yeah, no.
	I was on seeking arrangements for like two seconds.
	And then, yeah, it gets scary.
	And I was like seeing, I didn't want to even set up my profile.
	I didn't put my picture up.
	Because I just like looked at the feed and I was like, I'm good.
	But you were curious.
	I was curious.
	Okay, so you did create it.
	Yeah, but I didn't actually create the profile.
	Obviously, I created the name, didn't add the pictures, didn't add the bio.
	But you were open to an arrangement.
	Yeah.
	Would you be open to an arrangement now?
	Today?
	Personally, no.
	Not from the website, but let's just say some guy came along.
	An older man or is it?
	Just any guy.
	And you wanted to have an arrangement.
	Would you?
	If he's not super old.
	And it's not about sex, yes.
	Because there are like the fin dom relationships, like financial dominance, where like you don't have to actually have sex with them or anything.
	Would that be ideal for you?
	I mean, yeah.
	I could imagine.
	Because then I could just get paid for telling them what to do, yeah.
	I don't get that at all.
	To me, that's like some guys really just like to be told what to do.
	And if they say, give me $100, I'll do it.
	Can I just get a girl that wants to be fin domed?
	You can't.
	Where are the girls at that want to be fin-domed?
	They exist.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know.
	Pay me $1,000 to not sleep with you?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm kind of jealous.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Like, this shit's just crazy.
	You hear the opportunities, man.
	Okay, so ever.
	Well, we kind of talked about it.
	You were on seeking arrangements, but then dipped.
	Yeah, it was like literally also like two seconds.
	Like, I did not set up my profile.
	Okay, but that's specifically the website.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	No, but I actually, this is really funny.
	Two years ago, for like two days, me and one of my girlfriends, who I'm not friends with anymore, we actually went on like Omegle and we were just like, just like for fun, you know, like anyone would.
	And someone asked us for feet pics and we were like, okay, harmless, right?
	They asked us for our like cash app, ended up sending us like 50 bucks.
	Literally just to show our feet on camera for like a second.
	And then we kind of just like kept it going.
	We ended up making $400.
	$400 today.
	$400 between the two of us.
	You kept it going with feet pics or just.
	With him.
	Was this just one guy or was it multiple?
	No, no, no.
	It was like, we ended up just skipping through a bunch of people and we're like, hey, you guys, like, want feet pics?
	Did he make you do anything with your feet?
	Like, what?
	Curl our toes.
	Curl your toes.
	I don't know.
	Oh, my God.
	It's like weird shit.
	Like, I mean, if you're in defeat, like, you're in defeat.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not.
	But like, money's money and it's so harmless.
	So, like, we didn't feel like gross.
	We thought it was like hilarious that people were like paying to see our feet.
	You know?
	It is hilarious.
	It's absolutely hilarious.
	It's the weirdest thing ever on that really.
	It's really weird.
	It's really weird.
	Bro, these guys are like fucking shit up for regular dudes.
	They're just like, it's so true.
	Fucking scuffing it.
	It's so true.
	That's where they get this money on this paper.
	I mean, I guess like we have some pretty nice feet.
	Yeah, but it's nice to hear that.
	Like, I don't want to be told that I have ugly feet.
	So, like, hearing that I have like nice feet is just made you feel really good.
	All right.
	Really good.
	Honestly, I'm going to change my mind.
	I'd rather be told that I have beautiful feet than I have a beautiful mind.
	What the fuck?
	What's a job?
	What's a joke?
	Oh, okay.
	I was like, hold on.
	Please don't take me serious.
	Okay, ever had a sugar daddy?
	Never.
	And I've never been on seeking arrangements or anything.
	Never.
	I've never done that sort of thing.
	Okay.
	I won't be doing that.
	Have any of you ever been flown out by a guy?
	I have to think about that.
	No, no.
	You have to think about it.
	What is there to think about?
	Yes or no?
	No, okay.
	I've been offered a lot, but no.
	I'm too scared.
	But you've been, a guy's offered to fly you somewhere.
	What about with a guy you're seeing?
	Has he ever taken you on a vacay?
	Yes.
	So it was yes, but then he said I couldn't invite all of my girls, so it kind of wasn't him taking what wait.
	So this guy you're seeing paid for you and your girlfriends.
	So we were staying in like a big ass house with his friends, but we didn't pay for anything.
	And then he said it could either just be me or like all my friends and everything's free.
	And I was like, okay.
	But that's not flying out.
	Oh, it was just where you were already living.
	No, we drove from Orange County to the Bay Area.
	Oh.
	But you didn't pay for everything, I guess.
	Okay.
	Ever been flown out?
	No, but I was asked to about two weeks ago to go to Vegas.
	And I said no.
	It's scary.
	That's probably a safe move.
	Offered?
	Offered?
	No.
	I mean, once, but with an ex-boyfriend.
	Okay.
	Have you guys heard the stories about what happens to the chicks that get flown out to Dubai?
	Dubai?
	I was kind of like a bad guy.
	Oh, I'm trapping you.
	That's so scary, man.
	Do you want to explain it?
	I don't want to explain it.
	I want to hear it.
	Well, it's gnarly.
	Let me not go to Dubai.
	I mean, basically, these very wealthy men in Dubai have some.
	I don't want to go into detail, but they have some very interesting kinks.
	And let me just put it this way: if a girl's been flown out to Dubai, it's a huge red flag.
	That's a release fly.
	Possibly ruined for life.
	Wait, do they fly out to Dubai?
	Do they like cut her up?
	No, they don't.
	I mean, some of them might do violent stuff, but like just disgusting things.
	Let's just say.
	Like, why are you kinks?
	I don't want to say.
	Wait, like you're a prostitute.
	All right.
	Like, should I say it?
	Say it.
	Use the most double-blooded.
	You brought it up for a reason.
	So let's say they go.
	I was hoping he would explain.
	I'll do it.
	They go number two on you.
	Okay, that's what I was thinking.
	No, like groups of guys.
	That's wild.
	I heard some super wealthy guys will give chicks crazy amounts of poop into your kids.
	Yeah, like super.
	I've heard a lot of the really hot Instagram models with lots of followers.
	They go out there.
	No, I'm dead serious.
	This is like a known thing.
	They go out there.
	These guys do disgusting things to them, pay them tons of money.
	Yeah.
	Well, you did you just say you said the more money you have, the more you're going to be.
	I feel like the more money you have, the worse your kinks are.
	Like the more you get.
	I feel like even people that don't have money have kinks, they're just not willing to pay for those types of shit.
	Or they're not willing to show it off because they don't have enough money to back it up.
	Everybody can drink.
	I feel like it's like these dudes have so much money that they get desensitized to the stimulation, you know?
	Like they need crazier and crazier stuff.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Don't forget to speak to the mic.
	I mean, no kinksham is real.
	Let me kink shame.
	I don't know.
	No.
	I'll kink shame that.
	Let me get that.
	I like to just take it and just like.
	I don't know if I want it in my lap like that.
	Oh, I had to do it.
	Can't block it.
	Wait, hold on.
	Brian, you never answered.
	Have blue checks.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's good to you.
	What's good?
	Yes, but thank you for watching.
	No, whatever.
	No, so I've never had a girl with a blue check DM me.
	And I've only been DM'd three times, two, three times by girls.
	Not even in Santa Barbara.
	One chick was in Chicago, another chick was in Canada.
	And they're not like, Brian, I'm going to fly to you.
	Brian, let me fly you out.
	They're just like going to slide into the DMs, and then that's it.
	Yeah.
	maybe if they're in socal they might i had one girl like try to meet well it didn't happen but uh they just send nudes and then it just nothing ever happens but um and uh but yeah so it's tough out there for guys It's tough out there.
	Two, three DMs, Max.
	Rip?
	Okay.
	Do we have super chats?
	Do we have super chats?
	I couldn't.
	I haven't seen any classes.
	Not too many.
	We'll get some super chats in a bit.
	I have a question for the panel.
	What do you think are some preferences, standards, or boundaries that men have that you think are unfair or unreasonable or that you take issue with?
	I understand what you're saying.
	Like, you're saying, like, what, like, things that, like.
	So there are things that, basically, things that guys like or preferences or standards or boundaries that men have.
	That we disagree with.
	That you disagree with or you take issue with or you think are unfair or unreasonable.
	I think.
	And why don't we start with Alice and Kirk?
	I'm trying to think.
	The only thing that pops up is like body count, because I know, and that's a perfect segue, but I know.
	I feel like a lot of guys that have higher body counts want girls with the lowest body count or like virgins.
	And I don't understand that at all.
	Okay.
	Well, you're saying you feel like the guys who want the lower body counts are virgins?
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying the guys who have the highest body counts want the girls with the lowest body counts.
	Oh.
	Because they know.
	Because you know what?
	They know.
	Yeah.
	They dated this game.
	But the thing is, he's been ran through.
	So how is it not the same?
	It's not really the same.
	How is it not the same?
	We've discussed this so many times.
	We've discussed this.
	Yeah, we will talk.
	We'll talk about it, but I just want to let everybody answer.
	So do you want to go ahead?
	I really want to.
	Into the microphone, please.
	Can you repeat?
	Yeah, you guys, like summarize.
	So what do you think are some preferences, standards, or boundaries that men have that you think are unfair or unreasonable or that you take issue with?
	can you skip me We'll come back to you.
	Okay, I think like guys being like very possessive, it's like they like show to their like homeboys or whatever, like, oh, look, like, she's mine.
	But I think like being like super possessive is almost like a huge turn off because it's like you have like, you know, control of this like woman when like, no, you don't.
	Honestly, she has her own mind.
	She can do her own thing.
	And like possessing that or like keeping like her accountable and like maybe like, I don't know, it feels suffocating and I don't think you must hate Andrew Tate.
	I fucking hate Andrew Tate.
	We're going to watch.
	We'll pull up a little bit.
	Andrew A.
	Yeah, this will be good.
	This will be a good time.
	That was a statement kind of like with trauma behind it.
	Yeah.
	To be honest.
	And also just, I want to just to clarify my question.
	That's certainly a behavior in men that you can take issue with, but it was more so preferences, standards, or boundaries that men have for women.
	So for example, a preference for a guy might be like the body count one, or it might be guys who want girls with the early hourglass figure.
	It could be something physical, it could be something personality-wise.
	Preference-wise.
	Preference-wise.
	Like guys who want women.
	Maybe if they want women to adhere to their traditional gender roles, or they want women who are more quiet, for example, or feminine or submissive.
	Are they submissiveness?
	I feel like you don't like that when a guy wants a woman who's submissive.
	No, because I feel like it's demeaning.
	I think it's like they're like, maybe like putting they're holding her to a standard that like it may not be like that for her.
	I don't know.
	Do you think it's like they want to hold her to a standard or is it because they know that a lot of girls like an assertive man?
	Um, not necessarily.
	I think to each their own.
	I think that these girls, I mean, can pick a you know, standard for themselves and either be super dominant or super, you know, not dominant, and that's okay for them.
	I mean, it shouldn't be like a standard you hold to someone, you know.
	I feel like there's a difference between controlling and assertive, too.
	It's true.
	Some men, some men want a woman who will follow their lead.
	Yeah.
	Follow everything they say.
	And some men don't care as much about it.
	Like, that's like very important to me.
	Like, I definitely want a woman that would follow my lead.
	And if a girl doesn't want to do that, we're obviously not right for each other.
	What do you mean, a girl that follows your lead?
	I mean, does it need to be explained?
	Yeah.
	Kind of, yes.
	Because there's a fine line between controlling her and like being assertive towards her and being like, we're going to do this.
	Would you want her to be independent and do her own thing too?
	Or do you want her to mainly just?
	I mean, she can have her own stuff if she wants, but like, when I, this is one of the things, this is one of the core values that I want for my household and my family is like I want to be like the leader and the authority of the household, right?
	So like if there's a big decision, obviously I'm going to talk it out with my wife.
	But like ultimately the responsibility for everything that happens to my family is going to fall on me as a man.
	So you want to be the head.
	Yeah.
	I want to be the head of my household, right?
	And like, no, she battles that.
	That doesn't mean that like I want to be some freaking dictator, but like I want a wife who trusts me, right?
	And who she trusts my leadership, she trusts my authority, and she like she feels relaxed into it.
	And she can speak your mind as well.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Now, if there's like a big disagreement over something important, like another goal that I have for my family is at the end of the day, I want to provide for my wife and my kids.
	And like if there's a big disagreement over something because I'm responsible for what happens to the family, like I expect her to respect my final say on that thing.
	And again, like obviously we're going to talk it out.
	You know what I mean?
	Like we're going to talk stuff out.
	Like I want her to be my partner.
	But like I want her to trust me too, you know.
	And if a woman doesn't trust me, obviously we're not right for one another.
	Exactly.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	Just like that.
	Does that kind of clarify?
	Yeah, no, that made sense.
	I just wanted to, I guess, to be said exactly what you wanted.
	No, draw that line that it's not really that you want to be controlling, that you just want her to trust you.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Your turn?
	In the past, like guys have been very insecure about what I wear in public.
	And I want to know how that, like, if you had a girlfriend and she went out and whatever she wanted to wear and it was appealing towards men, I'm wondering what your guys' position in that.
	Okay, so I'll answer that.
	So basically your question is what are stances on our girlfriends going out wearing revealing clothing?
	So my take on this, and I have a kind of interesting take.
	So I don't, I very rarely drink.
	If I do drink, I have one to two drinks max.
	I don't go out to bars, clubs, parties.
	So for a relationship, my expectation for a girl, if she's going to be in a serious relationship with me, she can't go out.
	Occasionally, if she wants to do whatever, that's okay.
	But if she's going out regularly.
	Can you define going out?
	Like, are we talking about clubs, bars, or like restaurants with her friends?
	No, like restaurants with her friends, that's fine.
	But like if she's going out to party, it's a deal breaker for me.
	It's a huge red flag.
	For me, it's a deal breaker.
	I totally agree.
	Why is that a deal breaker?
	Well, one, because I just don't do it.
	So I would want reciprocity there.
	But sorry, go ahead.
	Is it because it makes you insecure?
	It has nothing to do with insecurity.
	It's just it's a preference that I want in a partner because in the same way that someone might want to have someone that enjoys the same types of films and the same types of music as them, I don't go to bars.
	I don't go to clubs.
	I would rather masturbate with sandpaper than go to a nightclub or a bar.
	I fucking hate bars and clubs.
	If my girl goes to bars and clubs, that's just a, we don't have the same interests.
	So you wouldn't even go for her.
	I might hook up with a girl, but if she, it's predetermined on a Friday or Saturday night that she's going to bars and clubs and parties.
	It's not, I might hook up with her, but I'm not going to take her seriously.
	Do you want to go with a girl that's going out?
	I will hook up with a girl.
	Regardless of your girlfriend, though.
	For me to take her seriously, it's going to be an issue for me if she's going out partying on the weekends.
	Women go out to meet guys.
	Like what's hard to understand?
	No, that's not.
	It's not at all.
	That's not true at all.
	I know a lot of women.
	Y'all get very prepared.
	A lot of women.
	Y'all get very prepared.
	Y'all get very prepared before you go out to the clubs or anything like that.
	And almost all the time, it's because you guys, obviously you guys want to have fun, but you guys are excited to meet guys.
	No, that doesn't matter.
	It's fun.
	Okay, we want to have fun.
	It's not true that you guys are excited to meet guys.
	It is true when you are ready to mingle.
	Give me a break.
	It is true when you are ready to mingle.
	For me, when I was in my relationship, so I was doing long distance with my boyfriend.
	He went to college.
	And this is all of like last year.
	It's like I was doing it for like eight months.
	And he would go out on the weekends and I would like dread the weekends coming up because I would be sitting at my house.
	You know, like I was in beauty school, but like besides beauty school, like I was just working, you know, and all my friends had gone to college.
	I was staying in Chicago, you know, so I had literally nothing to do.
	And he would go out and I wouldn't understand like why he wanted to go out so much, you know, and then I would question myself and I'd be like, well, is he going out to like go hang out with the boys or is he going to these parties to go like talk to like other girls too?
	You know?
	Did he cheat on you?
	Tilt the microphone up towards you just a bit.
	I don't think he did.
	So it was a long distance relationship.
	It was long distance for eight months and then we.
	And he was going to bars and clubs?
	He's probably cheating on you.
	He was going to be a party.
	Yeah.
	He was probably.
	He wasn't going to bars or clubs.
	Oh, I thought you said he was going out.
	He was going out.
	I mean, he went to a bar like a couple times, but like he would go to like parties on campus.
	Because he went to school at a very small school, very small town.
	It was like the middle of nowhere.
	Was it like Ragers?
	Was it Ragers?
	Proper parties?
	Sure.
	No.
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	So just because she's talking about a guy who's long distance, why does that give you a whole automatically like, oh, he's cheating on you?
	You have no idea.
	Do they go to bars and parties and clubs to hook up with that?
	That's not what it is on the main part of 100% of the time.
	It's called entertainment.
	Let me finish my point.
	You're right.
	For a reason.
	It's not 100% of the time.
	But I can say for myself and my friends, Every single party we've gone to, like, there's a part of you that's like, okay, am I going to meet somebody tonight?
	And you're looking around.
	Yeah, and they're looking around.
	You're staying single during those times?
	Yes.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And there were times when I was a teenager and I had a girlfriend and I would go to parties because all my friends were going to it and I wanted to go there and I didn't want to miss it.
	And my girlfriend couldn't go to them.
	And part of me was curious.
	Like, hey, like, it wasn't because I had the intention to cheat, but I just knew my own nature.
	Like, if there was a hot girl there, part of me is like, it's curious, you know?
	And I think that's just human nature.
	I think when people go out in situations where they're around other attractive people and they're drinking alcohol.
	Yeah, especially when you got alcohol.
	When alcohol is involved, it's just like I think that there's something called self-control.
	Well, yes, there is.
	And you can control yourself and you can have a good time without hooking it up.
	If you want it bad enough, you don't have to search for anybody in the situation.
	People go to parties and bars and clubs, not because they're interested in the opposite sex.
	Well, it's also social, it's a social area, too.
	I mean, I wouldn't necessarily want a girlfriend that went out all the time, went to clubs and went drinking.
	That would not be what I would prefer.
	But it's a social place, too.
	So there's this, to a certain extent, it's fine to go out, you know.
	But like, once you're doing it repetitively, you know, with your girls, it's kind of getting to the point where it's like, all right, what the hell is she really out there?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	If it's a common pattern and there's alcohol involved and the opposite sex is involved and it's at nighttime, you have to ask, is something going on?
	If she weren't to invite you, but if she were to invite you out, party with that totally totally different.
	But what if you don't want to go?
	Yeah, I'm not going.
	Yeah, and she still gets mad.
	She can go out anyway, and you're still going to think, oh, she's looking for something.
	I mean, if she, even if you guys were together.
	If we were in a serious relationship and my girl was like, she decided, hey, I'm just going to go out.
	It depends on this.
	It's like the occasional, if there's like a birthday party.
	It depends on the context.
	But if she's going out consistently and it's like a thing that she wants to do, she wants to party, you're free to do that.
	Goodbye.
	It was nice to see you.
	How young are we?
	I'm breaking up with her.
	How young?
	How young are we talking?
	What do you mean?
	If she were 21, 20, 21, 22, would she be allowed to go out consistently because she's of that age?
	It's not about allowed or not allowed.
	She can do whatever she wants.
	It's just the standards that I have for the girl I'm dating.
	So if she wants, if she does that, okay, we're just no longer in a relationship.
	We're done.
	And I'm not going to control her.
	I'm not going to control her.
	It's just like if you want to do that in the same way that you guys might, I'm trying to think of an equivalent example.
	This isn't a perfect match, but I have a few points on this.
	Because you asked me a question on it, but how would you feel if your guy went to a strip club?
	Would you be okay with that?
	Your long-term serious boyfriend went to a strip club.
	Personally, I'd be fine with it if he didn't pay for a dance.
	If he took me with him, he doesn't pay for a dance, but he's getting a little bit of a dance.
	I went to a dance.
	He's getting the money.
	He's not a daughter.
	Nothing.
	He's just there for his friends.
	Into the microphone.
	Oh, he's just there for his friends to kind of just be there.
	As long as he got no one dancing on him, I don't care.
	You can go look at girls.
	You could look at them on the street.
	I don't care.
	Sydney, I saw you make a face.
	What do you think?
	I would love to go with him.
	No, you don't.
	No, he went alone.
	What if he went alone?
	He went alone?
	He went alone.
	You'd be concerned.
	Go ahead.
	I have a follow-up on this one.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, honestly, like, if he invited me, sure, we should.
	He's going alone with his boys.
	Yes, but he's going alone.
	I mean, like, I haven't been in the position to really know how I personally would feel, but yeah, I think I would be kind of hurt.
	You'd feel a type of way about it.
	Okay, you too?
	Um, yeah, like, honestly, if I wasn't invited, I would ask him why, and we'd have a like a serious talk about it.
	And if he kept saying that I wasn't able to go and it was just for a boy's night out, I would be very upset.
	But are you comparing situations based on, are we going out to the bars and having fun?
	And is this comparable to talk about stripping?
	No, this is a situation.
	To a degree, how about this?
	Here's a different one.
	What do you guys think if you're in a serious relationship with a guy?
	What do you think about if he's watching porn?
	Do you have an issue with that?
	No.
	No issue?
	I have no issue with the.
	For some reason, I don't care about that.
	Unless it's fake.
	It's not fake.
	Porn is fake.
	There's not another human being.
	If they don't want to hang out with me, and it's not a real situation.
	If they say they want to stay home, you know, and like do their thing and they're like, you know, I don't know.
	Like, I don't really care.
	Porn is porn.
	It's literally just a video.
	Rather than porn over having sex with me, that's a problem.
	Yeah.
	If I wasn't around and like they really just need to do something, so then why would a girl need to go to the club when she can just hang out with me?
	We can chill.
	Porn is going to say something about that.
	I was going to say if you expect your girl not to go out to the club, you know, and go partying with her girls, you should be able to put something down on a table where she's going to want to sit and hang out with you.
	You know, you shouldn't just be chilling, fucking playing video games, watching movies.
	If I have a boyfriend, I'm not going to go to the clubs without him.
	If he doesn't want to go, I'm going to stay at home.
	That's how it should be.
	But what is at work late at night and in doing something else?
	And I'll say literally just sitting there doing nothing.
	I'll stay home.
	I'll call up one of my girls.
	That's a good woman right now.
	But that's being a people too.
	See, I was waiting to hear that answer because let me tell you something.
	You don't believe me.
	Would you guys agree with that?
	I mean, I believe you, but I wouldn't do that.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	In my best relationships, in my best relationships.
	Wait, guys, let's chase.
	Let's chase.
	In my best relationship.
	I was waiting to hear an answer like that because in my best relationships, the girl wanted to do whatever I wanted to do.
	And there would be times where she'd be like, hey, that's the best relationship where the girl is doing whatever you want.
	She was so in love with me that she was like, I just want to spend time with you.
	Well, it's got to be on both of your terms.
	I don't forget about that.
	She wanted to do it.
	Here, what about this one?
	A serious relationship, but he's paying for some other girl's only fancy.
	No.
	What the fuck?
	No, no, no, that's just a random girl.
	Nothing to do with you.
	Yeah, no.
	If you're paying attention.
	See, that's where it comes in.
	So what if a guy was financially supporting another woman?
	Definitely not.
	So Brian's question, I kind of see it as like the equivalent of this, right?
	Like, how would you guys feel?
	You already gave your answer.
	How would you guys feel if you were dating a guy and he wanted to go out to the clubs and you were like, no, I want to stay in tonight.
	And he was like, no, I'm going to go out.
	And you were like, okay, well, can I come with you?
	And he was like, no, I'm just going out with the boys to the bars to go drink and stuff.
	How would you feel about that?
	I've been through this before.
	And honestly, when I want to stay home, I'll stay home.
	I don't care if you're going out.
	All right.
	You just have to text me every morning.
	But in that situation, if you want to go, let's say in this situation, you wanted to go and he said, no, it's just for the boys.
	What would you think of that?
	Well, I would kind of be hurt, but then I'd go find my own plans.
	I'm not just going to sit and mope around.
	You're not like sus that he might cheat on you or anything?
	Yeah, no, I don't.
	I don't think you'd cheat on me.
	Well, it starts with me.
	There's always a risk.
	There's always a risk.
	How could you not?
	There's always a risk, but you can maintain a trustworthy relationship with someone.
	Like, you can achieve that.
	If one of my boys was doing that, constantly leaving his girl in the dust to go out drinking.
	Okay, constantly is different.
	I'd be like, dog, you're cheating on her, aren't you?
	Constantly.
	Constantly is very different than just like a one-time, like, three-time thing.
	Like, if you maintain like a trustworthy relationship, then it's like, you know?
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	I mean, if it's a one-time thing, that's not a big deal.
	That's not a big deal.
	We're talking about if the guy wants to go out every weekend.
	We're talking about if a guy or I guess the girl wanted to go out every weekend, that's just something that is not ideal for a relationship because that's just what are you doing out there?
	You're really checking out.
	Also, it's different for men and women.
	How?
	Like a guy going to the club is different than a girl going to the club.
	I feel like guys, guys, yeah, guys going out to the club every weekend, I feel like, would be a lot more suspicious.
	If she's attractive, well, there's a 100% chance she's going to get hit on while they're basically.
	But we don't have to be a little bit more than a moment.
	No, but it's different, though.
	It's totally different because men and women, like, we flirt differently.
	So, men, if we go to the club and we want to get female attention, we have to go up and approach women.
	We'd have to initiate.
	We have to take an active participatory role in initiating it, right?
	But as a girl, if you're in a relationship, you might have no intention of going up to anybody, right?
	But guys are still going to come up to you because they don't know that you're in a relationship.
	That's how women flirt is to just be there, to just show up.
	So it's very different.
	As a guy, here's the thing.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Here's the difference.
	Hold on.
	As a guy, if I go to a club and I'm in a relationship with a girl, ain't no girl's coming to hit on me.
	But as a girl, if you go to a club and you're in a relationship with a guy with no intention for a guy to come up to you, there's guys that are going to come up to you.
	Okay, so be good and turn them off.
	So because you guys are more vocal and more like, you guys are the ones who come up to us and you guys are the ones who flirt with us, that makes it a problem for us to go out.
	I don't think it's a problem, but it's not.
	Because we're being a person.
	Yeah, it's not our, like, we're making a choice to go out.
	That doesn't necessarily mean that we want to be flirted with.
	But you're coming.
	If you're going out, you're coming up to us.
	I literally can't fucking get to my car without someone approaching me and asking me for my number, literally leaving the gym with my headphones.
	That totally happens to me.
	This is why I was surprised only 10 dudes have slid into your DMs.
	That's different.
	Like a bar.
	It happens more often in person than just Instagram.
	But of course, you should totally be free to maneuver through the world.
	But what I'm saying is, specifically with parties, clubs, and bars, those are very specific social environments where there's it's much more guaranteed that you're going to get approached without getting involved.
	And you know you could go to Trader Joe's 20 times and nobody's going to talk to you.
	If you go to a club, a party club or bar, somebody's coming to hit on you.
	Very true, somebody's coming to hit on you and it does not wrong, thank you, thank you.
	So there's out of our control if we get approached, but it is fully in our control.
	Being in a relationship, single or taken, you know whatever.
	If we want to, you know continue on with that conversation or turn you away, yeah.
	And then well, there's the question too, if your girlfriend's going out downtown, you know all the time or going out to the clubs, there's the question is, is she really going out every time just so she can get that attention?
	Only you know your own truth at that point, only you know your own truth.
	I don't, I only know my own truth.
	Like it literally, we have no fucking clue.
	We have no clue unless we get proof, you know, unless there's a game, why some?
	So why do you guys go to parties, bars and clubs to have fun.
	Yeah, why can't we go out as fun to music entertainment?
	Yeah, exactly like if having a good time out with the girl is just because all right, so just because there are men there, like it's not the focus, But like, when you're taking as well, I still go.
	Absolutely not.
	And it's like, it's not for only like the male gays.
	I'm going with my girlfriends and I'm going to go have fun just because men are there and I'm like, and they're like open to like chatting with me.
	It doesn't mean I have to put like any of myself into that chat.
	I just want to have fun.
	It's my girl.
	I mean, I went to the bar the other night with her and we literally just went to go play pool.
	Let me just ask that.
	That's cool.
	That's good.
	That's cool.
	Is one of the ways in which you have fun by getting attention and validation from men?
	Absolutely not.
	That's not all the time.
	It's a circumstance.
	It happens.
	It's like the last, the conversation.
	It's about the music.
	It's about the moment.
	It's not about the kind of guy that comes up to you and says, oh, hey, like, I like how you look.
	Like, you're beautiful.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	That gets exhausting.
	I'm just going to put that out there.
	It gets exhausting.
	Most of the time it's just like, honestly, leave me alone.
	Like, honestly, I go out to experience a really great time with the people that I love, which are standing right here.
	Did you just always reject dudes?
	I always reject dudes.
	Most of the time, yes.
	Great.
	I'll buy you a circle.
	Oh, wait, you have to do it.
	I do reject a lot of people.
	Have you ever been rejected?
	No.
	Have you ever been rejected?
	I'm trying to think.
	Probably, but I don't know.
	Have you guys ever approached dudes?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So you've never been rejected then?
	Because you said you've approached them.
	I've been rejected so many times.
	Was this during the function?
	I think that may have been.
	Oh my gosh.
	What?
	How?
	What?
	Come on.
	It's a funny thing.
	It was no rebat camp.
	It was a funny job.
	Oh, no fan camp.
	No, no, it was literally like, I mean, actually, she said boarding school.
	It was boarding school.
	It was boarding school because I was misbehaved, but you know, that's a story for another time.
	Yeah, we are.
	We were just becoming a little bit more.
	I have a question, though.
	So if you guys meet a girl at the club or you meet her out or you meet her, like, you know, all of a sudden when you guys are serious in dating, is that going to be a problem if she goes out every weekend if you met her at the club?
	Wait, sorry, Repeat.
	Okay, I know.
	Repeat it.
	So if you, well, you don't go out, so I don't know if this is like a question, but like if you go out once and you meet the love of your life at the club, you're probably not.
	But if you meet like the love of your life at the club and all of a sudden her going out consistently is a problem, but you met her while you were out.
	But did you, if he, did he know if he knew that she was going out consistently?
	I feel like if you thought he could like handle it.
	If you go into that relationship knowing this, it's kind of like you are accepting these terms.
	You shouldn't have to be like, all right, now you have to change.
	If you're going to relationship with a girl that, I don't know, does OnlyFans and whatever, I wouldn't do that.
	But like you go into that relationship and then you tell her to stop.
	It's not really your like.
	You say you're going into that, accepting those terms.
	I'll tell you this.
	I'm not looking for a wife in the club.
	No, yeah.
	Yeah, definitely not in this.
	Don't bother.
	So to answer your question, in this hypothetical scenario where I would tragically find myself in a nightclub, which would be, ah, man.
	The thing is, is that when I, for example, if I meet a girl in the club and we just start dating, there's not an immediate expectation that she's loyal to me either.
	There's not an expectation.
	Well, like monogamy.
	The terms can change.
	So it's not like the first time you meet someone that she's going to be loyal to you right away.
	100%.
	Right?
	But as you continue seeing each other for longer, then the terms of the relationship can be negotiated and change.
	So in the same way that maybe after a couple weeks or a month or two months, you guys have the discussion, hey, we're going to be monogamous.
	In that same way, you can also say, hey, if we're going to be in a monogamous relationship, I don't want you going to the club anymore.
	But you met at the club?
	Yeah, I mean you can stop going to the club too.
	In her situation she was saying if you knew that she was going every weekend that that was her and you basically like made it like a like that's okay basically and now all of a sudden you're taking it back.
	If she came to me and she said Brian, I want to be in a monogamous serious, committed relationship with you, I would say okay, here are my terms when she cut it off before that, because she's not your type of girl, because she goes out all the time, when you just go find someone that fits more into that.
	And also, why would you go to a club looking for a girl if you don't want a girl in the club?
	She gave her scenario no, but she gave her a hypothetical, hypothetical scenario, I guess.
	Just, I think you just cut it off.
	To be honest, I want to create a uh, quit it.
	I just couldn't.
	I've written this down.
	This is a dream world hypothetical, that I want to pose to you guys.
	Um wait, can you?
	No no no guys put, put that, just hide that.
	Come on, put that down.
	Hide her hands, hide her hands guys okay so um, I want to try to give you guys a, a scenario where it can make sense to you why guys have an issue with girls going to the clubs.
	So I can see why I want you, I want you guys can see why right yeah, let me, let me paint it.
	I can understand your guys' situations and opinions uh, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with everything you guys say.
	So let me paint a dream world, hypothetical scenario here for you.
	Dream world, that's it.
	Pay attention okay, we are pay attention here.
	So we're gonna create a dream world.
	Um, and you know, unless as a guy, you're like super famous girls, just don't hit up guys like in the example i'm about to provide.
	Um, you know, in the real world, like the vast majority of men go to parties, clubs and bars straight up, would get ignored if they didn't make the first move, do anything.
	So okay would you be?
	Would you be okay with your monogamous, with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub, bar or party type environment where, throughout the course of the night, he's going to get approached, flirted with and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which are more attractive than you and could potentially be a better partner than you.
	And these women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk and enthusiastically want to sleep with him that night and steal him away from you.
	Oh, hold on.
	Oh, and his single manho friends are rallying, being a bad influence, telling him he should do it and talking shit about you all night.
	You're gonna tell me you'd be okay with that.
	Would you guys be okay with that?
	Um, that's not necessarily what happens on a night out and I would like to say something.
	So you're saying that okay, so these girls are approaching him and they might be more attractive than me.
	Move the mic that way.
	Um, so this situation is happening like all together, like whatever he I don't know if you noticed, but he described well.
	So that's exactly what's going on in the situation.
	Yeah, exactly like exactly what he praised to do.
	Guys with blue check marks, they experience what he just said.
	Oh sorry, they experience what he just said.
	Like guys I've been in the position that you're talking about right, but an average girl I think what she means is like guys with fame, they get appeased a lot.
	Yeah, but that's what I said, that's it.
	Unless you're super famous, guys are not gonna.
	Yeah, I'm telling you, average women get this experience that I just described.
	So, average woman yeah average, not every woman, average woman in general, but most okay, I get it.
	No like, I get it like you're.
	You're explaining like, what guys like do on an average night when they go out.
	No no no no, he's explaining.
	Okay, look at night acting in DP.
	I'm gonna repeat the hypothetical scenario.
	Eric, can you can you maximize?
	My brain cells are dying too.
	What the fuck?
	Eric, can you maximize the OBS so they can't read the comments while I'm explaining this to them?
	Okay, please pay attention.
	We have it.
	Okay, so this is a dream world hypothetical scenario.
	This only happened unless you're like super famous.
	Girls really don't be hitting up guys like this.
	So would you, this hypothetical scenario?
	Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub, bar, or party-type environment where throughout the course of the night, he's going to get approached, flirted with, and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which are more attractive than you and could potentially be a better partner than you.
	These women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically want to sleep with him that night and steal him away from you.
	Oh, also, his single man-ho friends are rallying, being a bad influence, telling him he should do it and talking shit about you all night.
	You're going to tell me you'd be okay with that.
	No, no, no, not with that.
	Definitely not with that.
	Okay, so.
	Sorry, I missed this.
	I do recognize this situation, though.
	Yes, because that's literally, I've seen that happen so many times to my friends.
	Like, I've seen that happen while I'm there.
	Because, like, I like to hang out with like my guy friends.
	You know, if anything, like, I sometimes prefer to hang out with my guy friends than my girlfriends.
	Non-taken.
	Okay, good.
	But, yeah, I've seen my guy friends who have had girlfriends, like, it's happened to them, you know, like they're very attractive and they're being approached by like, you know, multiple women or just one woman.
	And like, I know like their relationship, you know, I know that this person's in a relationship.
	And I've seen like the other guys just be like, dude, just do it.
	Like, just do it.
	Like, it's fine.
	Like, she's not going to find out or like fuck her, like, whatever.
	You know, and sometimes they give in and sometimes they don't, you know, which is really awesome when they don't give in.
	But when they do, it's just like, it's a real letdown.
	You know, and I can't, I putting myself like in that position, like of the girl, like, I would be absolutely heartbroken.
	So you can see how this can be a little contradictory because none of you would be okay with it, right?
	But then you say guys should be okay with girls going out all the time.
	But that's exactly the scenario.
	She didn't say that.
	Oh, you didn't say that.
	But you two mainly said that.
	Yeah, like, why are you always asking us this question unless you think like every guy does it at a time?
	You got, speaking to the microphone, please.
	So I was asking, like, why would you ask a question unless you think like every other guy does that in the club?
	Like, you ask the question for a reason.
	The reason why he asked this question.
	She was asking why are we asking why are you asking that question?
	The reason why he asked that question is because we were receiving criticism for saying like it's a deal breaker if a girl's regularly going to clubs without us.
	That situation that he just described that you guys wouldn't be okay with happening to your boyfriend, that happens to women all the time.
	Think about it.
	Which is why we're saying we're not okay with our long-term partners putting themselves in situations.
	Yeah, and that's why I'm asking why you ask the question is like that what people like go through like at the club.
	Yeah, that is guys don't say through that.
	You're saying you're not okay with him, that situation as he just described, but you guys were criticizing us, like looking at us like we were weirdos for not wanting our girlfriends to go clubbing.
	I understand exactly what you guys are saying.
	So you can see the confirmation girlfriend like she would actually do that to you guys.
	What do you mean?
	Okay, no, no, but look, like we could be saying to you guys, why aren't you okay with that?
	We'll move on.
	We'll move on.
	Allison, do you want to have, do you have a take on this real quick?
	Hypothetical question.
	We were saying a good girlfriend wouldn't want to do that.
	And you were like, why does that make her a bad girlfriend, basically?
	Like, why can't she go clubbing and still be a good girlfriend?
	Eric, you can switch it back, by the way.
	So, that guy in that story, we could be saying to you, like, why is that not okay for him to be doing that?
	I don't think they're going to be able to do that.
	Shouldn't you trust him?
	No, I get it.
	You guys are just describing what girls go through.
	Yeah, and putting something like that could happen instead.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	But he did that after you guys were looking at us skeptically and critically for saying we wouldn't be okay with long-term girlfriends doing that.
	I would be okay with him doing that as long as he's not cheating.
	Yeah, as long as it's not.
	There's no way to know that, but if I trust my partner.
	Are you okay with him going into situations like that regularly where chicks are trying to get him drunk and have sex with him?
	His boys are cheering him on.
	You're totally cool with it.
	Yes, as long as he's not doing it.
	But there's significant risks.
	There are big risks.
	Hold on.
	It's better to not put yourself in temptation.
	Wait, did you say no when you first asked that?
	No, that wouldn't be with a guy that would do that thing to me.
	Do what thing?
	Do exactly what you guys were saying.
	The hypothetical situation you created, I would never date a guy that would actually do that to me.
	And that's why we're saying we wouldn't date women that would put themselves in situations like that.
	And you guys looked at us like we were fucking controlling freaks.
	Before you gave us a situation, I feel like we shouldn't have to.
	What did you explain that, though?
	I feel like that didn't even need to be explained.
	Something like that has never happened to me.
	Do you think that point of view is the same?
	Do you think it's the same?
	Been put in what situation?
	Where these people talk about me behind my back, while they're at a club.
	I mean, that's only one part of the.
	I know, but I'm saying, like, I wouldn't be in a relationship with a guy that would.
	Single friends are a terrible influence.
	So bad.
	I agree 100%.
	Like, if you're going out with your single friends and you're in a relationship.
	That's difficult for sure.
	So, like, that's not a good look.
	I do want to switch it to, okay, so we were, were we, body count.
	Okay, we'll do body count.
	Should body count matter?
	In general?
	No.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Should body count matter?
	You're banned from reading chat, by the way.
	I'm banning you.
	I'm just, it's so funny.
	Okay.
	It's really funny.
	Go ahead.
	Should body count matter?
	I think.
	No.
	Personally, no.
	I don't think body count should matter.
	No.
	I do not.
	Okay.
	What's your body count?
	I'm not going to answer that.
	Rule number 76: no excuses, play with a champion.
	Okay, we need, I mean, what did that say?
	I have no idea what it said.
	What did that say?
	It's from Wedding Crashers Rule 76, no excuses, play like a champion.
	Okay, what's your body count?
	If body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?
	You know, I'm gonna just say straight up.
	Be straight up.
	You said you were honest before, right?
	Yeah.
	Do you want us to start?
	Do you want us to be able to do that?
	Well, I mean, I feel like, are you guys also going to say yours?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're honest?
	Yeah.
	Because it's low.
	I'm not going to say mine.
	But don't like.
	Why are you going to ask me?
	Yeah, you shouldn't ask the question if you're not going to answer.
	Well, I think body count matters.
	Why?
	Which is I'll get into that.
	But first, let's have you guys answer this question.
	I thought you were brutally honest.
	I am brutally honest, but at the same time, this is being aired live.
	Yesterday.
	It's still going in crazy.
	How long is this going?
	It's like a little bit.
	20-second clip.
	It's done.
	It's done.
	Okay, what's your body count?
	Hey, yo, yo, yo, yo.
	Hold on.
	That does wave.
	Yo, hey, really?
	Yo, really appreciate you for saying it, for being honest.
	Okay, body count, what's your body count?
	I could answer, but I don't think it's like anyone's business but myself.
	Come on, do it.
	Do it!
	Shut up.
	Do it.
	I think it's my business, and it's personal.
	It's invasive if you're asking that.
	I also won't tell you, because I don't think that it's anyone's business, so then I thought body count doesn't matter, though.
	It doesn't matter, but I'd rather keep it to myself if you're just going to look at me differently if I say I won't look at you differently.
	You said it matters.
	Multiple people will.
	You said it matters.
	They got you, bro.
	I got the lamb.
	They got you, dog.
	This is for me.
	This is for me.
	Stop the cat.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, whatever it is.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	Okay, so your question was, why does body count matter?
	Well, you said it mattered.
	It does matter.
	Oh, actually, you know what?
	Why not let Chase and Tristan, do you guys want to share your body count?
	If they share, I will.
	If I share theirs, will you guys share?
	No.
	All right.
	They were already going to share.
	I already shared mine.
	I told you I would share if you.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Bro, you have to send the wrong order.
	You have to tell them beforehand.
	If you don't share, you can't.
	Well, here's the thing going on.
	No, but if I do it first, it's such an easy cop-out for them.
	That's why I have to do it afterwards.
	If you don't answer this question, you have to wear this for the rest of the, not the rest of the stream, but here.
	Ask Kiki if she wants to share.
	Will she answer?
	Kiki.
	Kiki is.
	She's not shocking.
	All right.
	I got it.
	All right.
	All right.
	What is it, Chase?
	I'll tell you guys.
	Christian knows.
	I'll tell you guys, Brian, keep your lips zipped.
	I'll tell you guys.
	Wait, because he already knows.
	He already knows.
	But you guys have to guess what it is first.
	Four.
	Three.
	Maybe.
	Instant microphone.
	I think.
	Twelve.
	Microphone, microphone, microphone.
	I think, like, eight.
	There is a sign there, too, by the way, guys.
	I know.
	Sorry.
	I'm just like.
	You are very new to this.
	So, like.
	You are very attractive, but I think you're very pure.
	Thank you.
	So.
	I feel like you just used to be pure, though.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, like, imagine.
	My boys know I was quite the troublemaker back then.
	Yeah, I got it.
	I can see it.
	I want to say, like, 10.
	Okay.
	So what is it?
	What is 10?
	12.
	Why did you change from 3 to 12?
	12.
	Oh.
	Because, like, honestly, I was thinking, like, okay.
	You've explained in your past videos, which I've seen, that you weren't, like, the most faithful person in the beginning or whatever.
	I did not say that.
	You're not faithful.
	Not faithful, but like.
	You're in my favorite show.
	I have never cheated on a girlfriend.
	Okay, no, no.
	I didn't mean it like that.
	But like, you've like, you had your share of, like, women, whatever.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So I wouldn't know.
	This is why I don't like talking about like body cats because it's like.
	We're talking six.
	Can you just say, I'm not going to fucking define you just by how you look.
	Don't ask.
	You guys didn't guess ours.
	I'm going to say 10.
	Okay.
	It's seven.
	I've slept with seven women.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	Cool.
	Good for you.
	Pretty good.
	Yeah, would you guess eight?
	Eight.
	Yeah.
	If we guess your guys's, will you tell us?
	Yeah, probably.
	Oh, really?
	All right.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	It's like a yes or no.
	Yes or no?
	My mom's watching this shit.
	More likelier than this.
	That's me not guessing mine.
	Oh, God.
	Is it above 20?
	Well, you guys said you reject like.
	I think that's what I'm saying.
	That's not true.
	Yes, it is true that you guys said that like 10 minutes ago.
	Yeah, but I'm always reject guys.
	No, I never said that.
	Maybe you're getting it.
	It makes sense.
	I reject a lot of guys.
	Okay, I'm going to guess.
	So she never rejects guys, so hers might be a little bit higher.
	I'm going to guess like five.
	No.
	Higher or lower?
	Ah, God.
	Okay.
	Okay, ready?
	12.
	No.
	God damn it.
	We have to guess the older.
	13.
	13.
	To me?
	Yeah.
	No.
	15.
	This is a terrible game.
	All right.
	What do you guys got?
	Boys in the chat.
	I guess I'm negative 15.
	Guess how many, guess what their body counts are?
	The twins.
	Sorry, spamming every number.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What do you guys think my body count is?
	Yeah, what do you guys think Tristan's is?
	He just says.
	Negative.
	It's negative 50.
	No, I guess hers.
	Oh.
	20.
	I said 8.
	I say like 18.
	16.
	Like lower than I think.
	17.
	15.
	Final answers.
	Yeah.
	If it's zero.
	It was 20.
	You should have stuck to your first slide.
	Okay, so I got it right.
	Okay.
	It's crazy.
	What did I miss, guys?
	We guessed body counts.
	Did they reveal or not?
	No, we tried.
	They said if we guessed the right one, they would tell us.
	But they wouldn't.
	Do you have a guess, Brian, on their body counts?
	Both.
	I got a suspicion.
	21, 20.
	No.
	Definitely not.
	Hey, can the next question be: when did everyone lose their virginities?
	Oh, yes, that's a good question.
	50.
	No.
	Holy shit.
	I actually have a crazy story.
	Can you guys give us a range?
	Can you guys give us a range?
	I have a crazy story.
	What do you guys think about a range?
	Like, is it less than 10?
	No.
	Hers is.
	Wait.
	Yes, less than 10.
	No, less than 10.
	So you've been a bit more.
	Fuck off.
	Not even.
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	I didn't understand that.
	Yes, less than 10.
	Yes, less than 10.
	No, you were right.
	Ah, one of the two.
	You said what?
	Me?
	What did you say a second ago?
	Six.
	No, no, no.
	You said something about 10.
	Oh, I said higher than 10, lower than 10.
	Oh, oh, gotcha, gotcha.
	That's what they meant.
	Totally six million.
	And then I thought you just said you were lower than 10.
	You're lower than 10.
	30 to 50.
	6 million.
	This is the only time I will keep my mouth shut.
	Six.
	Base retards, check in.
	I'll answer everything else.
	Can I get all my base retards in the chat to check in?
	Thank you very much.
	Are we allowed to say that word?
	I don't know.
	We might be.
	That's what all my friends call themselves.
	Everybody knows you never go full retard.
	Body count.
	Body count.
	Very important.
	How old were you guys when you lost your virginity?
	18.
	Like 30 minutes after 18.
	Nice.
	I had just turned 13.
	Damn.
	Damn, nice.
	I think I was 16.
	It wasn't my fault.
	No, 15.
	15.
	Sydney, how old was the guy?
	18.
	Damn.
	What?
	He was 8.
	Oh, didn't he?
	That's fucked up.
	What was yours?
	Mine's 15.
	There's a story there.
	Yeah, that's definitely a story.
	I'd say 15 as well.
	You would say 15?
	Like about 15.
	I'd say about 15.
	Which one was more?
	Which one was above and above 10?
	Okay.
	Got it.
	She's raising herself fast.
	What age did you lose it?
	Bro, I lost it.
	I want to hear the story.
	You said you have a story.
	Check this out, dog.
	Check this out.
	So I lost my virginity when I was 18.
	The girl I lost my virginity to, she was a whore, okay?
	She was like, and I didn't realize this until after the fact.
	I didn't know this until after the fact.
	Dude, the first time, this story's so crazy.
	The first time I ever had sex, the girl that I had sex with literally asked me to punch her in the face while we were having sex.
	That's fucked.
	That's like a music.
	That's a king.
	It was her child.
	That's a king.
	She was like, she was like, she was like, can I ask you to do something?
	She was like, can I ask you to do something?
	I was like, what's up?
	She was like, can you hit me in the face?
	I was like, what did you just ask me?
	She was like, no.
	Like, I was like trying to enjoy the experience.
	Like an amateur first time.
	Same age?
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	So when that happened, did you think like, oh shit, like after that happened, does every girl like want this like progressiveness?
	Yeah, dude.
	I was like, I was super nervous.
	Like, I mean, I hooked up with my fair share of girls before that, but like, after that, I was like, dude, are dudes supposed to hit shit during sex?
	Like, is this like a thing?
	It was pretty weird, dude.
	Tristan, when did you lose your virginity?
	I think it was, I was 14, I think.
	God damn.
	Okay.
	When I was on the same boat, I was 17.
	17.
	By the way, in addition to the pickle hobbit, which none of you have put on, by the way, I think you'd look stunning in it, but I just want to say.
	Can you just put it on for a little bit?
	Thank you.
	Okay, you all.
	Also, I'm introducing the Plague Doctor mask.
	I don't like it.
	I will not put that on.
	Dude, that reminds me.
	One of you has to put on the Plague Doctor mask.
	That thing is hella grimy.
	Yeah, dude.
	I wouldn't put that thing on.
	No.
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	I got this one.
	Just pulling all of this shit.
	I don't know.
	Yo, how is it?
	How old were you guys when you had your first kiss?
	17.
	Wow.
	I know.
	I was all like blue.
	Oh, my God.
	13.
	You got to speak into the mic.
	You got to speak into the mic.
	Oh, I know.
	I was just thinking.
	Well, there's this really cute moment in kindergarten, but that's not the real first kiss.
	Right.
	Well, actually.
	It's your real first kiss.
	Yeah, real.
	Jonah Hill.
	Oh, yeah, I remember.
	Did you say it was to Jonah Hill?
	Yes.
	Jonah Hillathon.
	Yo, Jonah Hill watched this, bro.
	Shout out to Jonah Hill.
	This is kid named Jonah Hill.
	King.
	That's hilarious.
	Yes.
	I thought you were talking about the celebrity Jonah Hill.
	No, this kid we were at middle school with him.
	Seventh.
	It was your sixth and seventh, right?
	Seventh grade, I think.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You never said how old you were when you lost yours.
	I was 18.
	Oh, 18.
	I was 18, yeah.
	Dang.
	That's a crazy story.
	Yeah, like 12, I think.
	I have to do some super chats, guys.
	By the way, for any friends listening to this, this was after I got to college, okay?
	Okay, we might be making judgments.
	Wondering if they was making their guesses and everything.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All right, super chats.
	Vile?
	It's not.
	It's not vile.
	Wasn't I called it?
	I was calling you.
	I call them Vile.
	I thought I was calling them Vile.
	Vile Rentala with the 10,000 Colombian pesos.
	Thank you, man.
	Find me in your DMs on IG.
	We'll teach you to say, well, we'll teach you say to us Poppy.
	I think he's a virgin.
	I don't know.
	What do you say?
	The Stiffer Calon's Brian's Burner Count.
	Also, by $10 enough, guys.
	Also, agree with Brian.
	I rather watch paint dry than go to the club or bar.
	What's up?
	Solidarity on hating dog shit nightclubs and bars.
	Okay.
	Mike Davis, a $10 Super Chat.
	I've plowed through hundreds of females as an average-looking guy.
	If you're a man and your money and your game is right, you're good.
	For women, if you're not attractive, you're fucked.
	Facts.
	Yeah, I mean.
	That's why there's reconstruction.
	Actually, you know what, Mike?
	Mike, I kind of disagree with you, dude.
	Like, well, he's saying if you're not attractive, but there's some thirsty simp dudes out there that, like, even super average, like unattractive chicks can probably get laid easier than like a good-looking dude, if they were so inclined.
	I feel like that goes more towards guys.
	Like, if a guy is unattractive, then he's not getting anything.
	You're fucked if you're an unattractive guy.
	For sure.
	Vial with the 20,000 Colombian pesos.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, Violet.
	Much appreciated.
	Once I got a match on the Inner Circle app when we started to chat in WP, the girl was looking for a sugar daddy, but I'm just a sugar fac boy.
	Then I stopped to trust Naps.
	Yo, Vile, where are you from, dog?
	Colombia, my dad.
	Well, yeah, the Colombian pesos.
	I believe, yeah, Colombian pesos.
	We got another one from Vile.
	20,000 Colombian pesos.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Good to see you tonight.
	I think this is your first time coming through, so appreciate it.
	I were to a nightclub once, and an old man was there with a wife.
	Then one of the girls came and make out with his wife.
	Then he looked at me and my friends, and we cheered up like a champ.
	What the fuck does that mean?
	I love how you said exclamation part.
	I think he's running that through a Spanish to English translator.
	But Vile, thank you very much for the support, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Signage.
	Signage with the Australian $10.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Signage of the goat.
	Brian, spitting straight facts.
	Also, Tristan deserves some love too.
	Him and Chase are ace guests.
	Thank you for the support, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Well, if you're ever in the, well, never mind.
	Sorry, I'm getting tired, guys.
	You're cut.
	M. Heidler80 with the $5.
	Sorry, guys, it's 10 and up.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Quick intermission.
	I'm seeing the cover photo and man asks Sydney to do a fit check.
	Sydney.
	Do a fit check.
	You got to do a little fit check.
	She doesn't want to do it.
	I have to.
	She does.
	I think you got to.
	I literally stood up earlier.
	Fuck it.
	Whatever.
	Fitch.
	Can we like move?
	Can we do like the whole pan of like the room?
	This one?
	Yeah.
	Like, do I have to, like, does it have to be zoomed in on me?
	I mean, you don't.
	Whatever.
	We'll do both.
	How about we'll do both?
	Fit check.
	Fit check.
	Cute.
	Don't be honest.
	It's fine.
	It's actually an outfit.
	I'm fully clothed right now.
	I don't think it matters that much.
	Whatever.
	Show them a little tricep.
	Yeah, we've got to get to see the tries.
	Fuck, Myron.
	Damn, Myron.
	Aesthetics.
	Too scary.
	Okay.
	Too scary.
	Mike Davis with the fit.
	Fic?
	Fic?
	Fick.
	Jeez.
	I think I'm having a stroke, guys.
	Okay.
	Anthony Lopez with the $10 soup chat.
	Hypothetically described the best scenario meeting someone for the first time that is potentially a serious, monogamous, serious relationship.
	Really quick, guys, if we'll go around the table on this.
	Here, I'll put it back up if you want to reference it.
	Best scenario.
	It's a great question.
	It's a great question, Anthony.
	I like this question.
	Yeah, isn't it answering my answer?
	It's wholesome.
	Wait, I'll answer it first.
	Yeah, y'all are going to hate myself.
	The probation office.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Fuck.
	Okay, I don't care.
	My answer is just gonna be bad, but because okay, I do go out a lot, so that's why I was vouching for that.
	But my favorite thing is when there's a guy there that doesn't usually go out to the club, and they come up to me and they say, Oh, I'm not even supposed to be out here right now.
	I'm not even drinking because I don't drink a lot when I go out.
	I like to go out, but he's like, I'm not drunk, I'm not drinking, and I usually never come out.
	I didn't even want to come out, but I'm happy I met you.
	And then we consistently go out after that, and they show me that they don't actually do all that stuff.
	But yeah, so I just contradicted everything I said, but it's fine.
	Is it my turn?
	What you got, Sydney?
	Like, where they're calling you Thickney.
	I know, it's been happening.
	Dick check.
	More than one 20, more than 120 pounds for you, maybe like 124.
	Don't take that comment to heart.
	No, I don't.
	No, that's a noun.
	It's literally just.
	It's not a juicy ass.
	It's pure muscle.
	They want a fit check from everyone, so I mean, everyone should do a fit check.
	Are we joining us?
	The twins?
	Hello?
	I'm so casual right now.
	Actually, really funny because all the ladies are dressed well.
	Yeah.
	Except for me.
	Like, why are you looking at me?
	No, not you.
	Not you.
	Just never.
	Kiki is.
	I mean, she's wearing a World World one.
	She's dressed like German helmet.
	Kiki, you gotta do better.
	She's got a choker.
	She's gotta do better.
	By the way, I'm not gonna do that.
	I want to ask the guys something.
	I want to ask.
	This is a question for the guys.
	We've been asking a lot of the ladies questions.
	Guys, when you see a woman wearing a choker, are y'all thinking she got a black belt and dick sucking?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, yeah.
	I heard that.
	100%.
	I feel like it's a little.
	And it's not even like a conscious thought.
	Like, it's just like my mind is just like, yeah, that's what's going on here.
	Yeah, it shows definitely a little bit of a freak, you know.
	Totally.
	I don't know if it's the dick sucking, but it's definitely a freak.
	Is it the same for you, Brian?
	My initial thought is she likes to be choked.
	If she's wearing a choker.
	I mean, spelling.
	And yeah, she's got a black belt and dude.
	That chick, that chick that I lost my virginity to, she also asked me to choke her that first time.
	And I was like, fuck.
	Was she wearing a choker?
	Yeah, she was.
	We should actually see it on Friday.
	talk about that we should talk about the well not specifically your situation but rough sex So it does seem there's a meta.
	This is an interesting conversation.
	There's a meta going on, and I'm not sure who started it.
	Everyone, I just, all y'all chicks want to be choked.
	What's going on?
	I'm curious.
	Daddy issues.
	Nothing wrong with the women like that.
	Women like strong, dominant men.
	Turns them on.
	Yeah, it feels good.
	Especially if you like to be dominated.
	Like, it feels good.
	So we'll go around the table.
	Do you like to be choked?
	I mean, there's like a science, it's scientifically proven.
	It cuts off the airflow, so it makes you feel better.
	So you like to be choked?
	You don't get choked here.
	You're getting supposed to be choked here.
	If you actually choke someone, that's not good.
	It doesn't feel good.
	But if you like, so it's a blood choke.
	Yeah, you're not like doing anything off the airflow.
	Yeah, you're not trying to kill them.
	No, but you have to choose.
	I've never heard of people dying from autoerotic asphyxiation.
	I know I've heard that.
	It takes to another level.
	They've found hello, like rich old dudes and stuff like dead in their homes.
	Like choked chicken stuff.
	With a stool knocked out from under them and they were jerking off while like choking themselves.
	They're choking themselves.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Not like with a choke and like finding ways to choke themselves.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Wait, it happens like often.
	Have you seen that?
	You know, Kill Bill?
	The Bill and Kill Bill?
	That's how he died.
	And caridine?
	Can you guys in the chat?
	What's that guy?
	Beta carotene?
	No, no, no.
	His name is something caridine.
	Guys, in the chat, what's the Kill Bill actor's name?
	Kill Bill.
	It's a film.
	Trying to think.
	Quentin Tarantino.
	Who's the name of that actor?
	Robbie Williams.
	Yeah, that's how he died.
	Out of erotic asphyxiation.
	But okay, so you like to be choked?
	In the movie?
	Yes, or in real life.
	Sydney.
	Lightly.
	Lightly choked.
	I do like to be choked.
	I would say lightly.
	Into the mic, please.
	Lightly.
	Okay.
	Now, when it comes to sex, do you prefer gentle sex or rough sex?
	Gentle.
	Why the ding?
	Why the ding?
	There's no right or wrong answer here.
	Yeah, I think it's the best of both worlds.
	No, I'm calling Cap.
	I feel like all women like rough sex from the right dude.
	Depends.
	Not all the time.
	Depends on how to start off.
	Not all the time.
	We'll let the rest of the girls go ahead and answer you.
	Starting off really slow and passionate and then kind of like working your way up.
	Because as you build up, when it gets more aggressive and fast, I don't know.
	That's like.
	That's when you like, that's when you climax.
	I don't know.
	Brian, you got your answer in the chat, too, by the way.
	David Carradine.
	David Carradine, thank you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I like it both ways.
	I think that there's a time to be passionate about it and like slow and then there's a time to be rough with it.
	And I think you guys can like switch it up or like, I don't know.
	I think it's both.
	I'd have to agree.
	Chase, what do you prefer?
	It's the same.
	Like there's times for like slow, passionate sex where you're making love and there's times when you just want to fuck someone.
	No, exactly the same.
	I definitely think the same thing.
	Now, a question for you guys.
	Has there been a moment where a guy was way too like rough and you're just like, yo, that actually turned you off?
	Yeah, it hurts.
	It hurts.
	And then you're not like that ghost.
	Do you draw the girl?
	Do you draw the line of being hit in the face?
	I'm like, oh, my God.
	I would never wait before that.
	Ever.
	No.
	Oh, God.
	That's not fun.
	That's funny for you, huh?
	It's so funny.
	It was like the craziest thing.
	Wait, did you do it?
	No, it's crazy though.
	Why would you ask that?
	I'm going to do it.
	This is my first time having sex.
	I'm not going to hit you in the face.
	Did you choke her?
	No.
	No, I had to do it.
	You didn't do any of what she had.
	I didn't know how to do that.
	No, yeah.
	So would you say you were just like, nah.
	I was like, yeah, honestly, I'm good.
	Yeah.
	What would you say in that fucking situation?
	I mean, that's hard.
	Oh, my God.
	Would it be a deal breaker for you if a guy only wanted to have gentle sex?
	Like, monogamous or just a one-time deal?
	I guess sex is just sex.
	Because if it's monogamous, no, we have to do more stuff.
	Yeah, sure.
	But if it's a one-time deal, sure.
	Like, if it's in the moment.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Your answer?
	I. Her answer is yes.
	Yes, what?
	It would be a deal breaker.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	If he only wanted to have gentle sex.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	For me.
	I think, yeah.
	I've already dated a plain bagel.
	Plain breakage.
	It was not in everything bagel.
	That's for damn sure.
	I'm playing bagel.
	What would you guys do if the guy only wanted to be on the bottom?
	He was like the submissive hell no, right?
	No, I like to switch it up.
	It's like to be a flipper.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait.
	It can't just be one thing, you know?
	So you would like to take control sometimes.
	Of course.
	It's like 50-50.
	Would you guys say the same?
	Yes.
	It's like 50-50.
	That's all the mood I'm in.
	I mean, you can still engage in kinks and it can still be gentle.
	You can have gentle sex and it's not vanilla sex.
	I thought you said something.
	You said gentle.
	Yeah, but if it's genital.
	I thought you said genital.
	Gentle sex is a little bit.
	Gentle sex.
	Gentle sex.
	Oh my god.
	Nobody's saying gentle sex is vanilla, but if it's only ever gentle sex, that's a little bit vanilla.
	Yeah, that's vanilla as well.
	Get it right.
	Someone asked me how to get my brain.
	I guess something.
	What did they say?
	Brian?
	Speak into your mic.
	Speak into your mic.
	Someone said, how do you like your roofies?
	Oh, damn.
	Jesus, that's dark.
	That's dark.
	Okay.
	Wait, so you guys, what were your guys' answers?
	If they only ever wanted gentle sex, do you want to do that?
	I don't like it.
	I think there has to be like a balance of like, what's up, you know?
	Cut off.
	Can't just be gentle.
	I mean, you're going to lose somewhere.
	Oh, no.
	I'll say this.
	The whole, like, if it's the girl doing it or if I'm doing it, I don't like jackhammering.
	Yeah, no.
	That shit just like, it does not feel good.
	It doesn't feel good if the girl's doing it.
	It does not feel good.
	So to me.
	There's like air pockets in that shit, too.
	The big description, bro.
	Oh, my God.
	Air pockets.
	You know, one of the funniest things that I've ever learned?
	Do you guys know what the fastest-selling fiction book in history was?
	What?
	Do you know this, Brian?
	50 Shades of Grey.
	50 Shades of Green.
	Thank God.
	I mean, some people have to learn.
	Did you guys read it?
	The same PG-13.
	Yeah, I watched it too.
	I was like, yo, I want to know.
	I want this insight into the female psyche.
	Like, what's up with all these women?
	Why are they?
	It's kind of interesting.
	It's on the extreme side.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's on the extreme side.
	He likes whips her and shit.
	Yeah, I don't think that's normal.
	It's not normal.
	It's not media.
	I feel like it could be.
	I mean, do you guys have friends that are into BDSM and stuff?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Like, I'm always wondering, like, when I see people on the street, who's into the really crazy shit?
	Oh, my gosh, you know what?
	Oh, that girl, yeah, that girl is funny.
	Are the ones that are the freaky?
	The whiteest people.
	Wietest.
	That's true.
	They're fast.
	That's true.
	Freaks in the sheets.
	That's true.
	Church girls.
	Freaky.
	You got a lot going on there.
	That's definitely true.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Oh, were you ripping the vape?
	That's what I wanted to do.
	Do you want us in?
	Yes.
	So, let's bring it back.
	Do we need a bring?
	Should we bring it back to body count?
	Y'all didn't really push back too much on it.
	I don't really think that's like a good topic.
	So I can watch you loot all the time.
	We get too mired in body counts.
	I'm going to turn it down.
	Let's talk about the age gap, you think?
	Yeah, age gap's a good one.
	Let's do age gap.
	So I would like to do this when Liana.
	What's your sister's name again?
	Celeste.
	Maybe we'll wait until Celeste.
	Thank you.
	That's a really pretty name.
	Thank you.
	It's getting late.
	What time is it?
	Yeah, we're going to wrap up in just 10-15 minutes.
	Guys, get your last-minute super chats in.
	Ian Clasper said that your sister's smug.
	Smug?
	Black twin is normal.
	Black twin is smuggle.
	Normal twin.
	Oh, like the shirt color.
	Liana.
	Black twin is smug, black twin.
	Do you think your sister's smug?
	Does that mean like sexy?
	No, it means like kind of, I don't know.
	How would you describe smug?
	Smug?
	Kind of stuck up a little bit.
	It's like kind of like about themselves.
	A little arrogant.
	She's definitely feisty and she does what she wants.
	We should read through some chats.
	Yeah, we're talking about you.
	We should read through some chats.
	Rejoin the panel, you degenerate.
	You should pull up some interesting chats.
	I'm teasing her.
	Are you talking about that?
	That was a lot.
	Yeah, we've been talking about you.
	Martin DeGenerate.
	Someone, Celeste, someone called you smug.
	Do you want to fire back?
	No.
	All right.
	Honestly, not going to waste my time.
	Okay.
	Oh, with a smug response.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm trying to.
	We wanted to talk a bit about.
	Oh, Tate.
	We were going to watch a Tate video.
	Let's watch a Tape video and then we'll wrap it up.
	Yeah, do you actually support him?
	Hey, hey, do I support Tate?
	I do want to ask Patrice.
	I do want to ask the chat.
	Andrew, 8.
	What do you guys think we should ask the ladies while we still have them here?
	If you guys have any interesting questions, let us know in the comments or in the chat.
	Because somebody said don't talk about age gap.
	Talk about minimum preferences and ideal preferences.
	We could talk.
	You know what could be interesting?
	I could lay out, I have a list of just some preferences that I think men have and that women have, and we can compare and contrast.
	Okay, let's see.
	And just sort of.
	I'm also curious, as you're pulling that up, do you guys have any questions for us?
	Yeah, so let's do that.
	We'll do final questions.
	We've asked you guys so many questions.
	Do you guys have any questions for men about dating, women?
	I know we're kind of putting you on the spot, but posture check.
	Gotta set up the date right.
	I think that I want to ask you guys a question.
	Go for it.
	So.
	Wait, could you repeat that?
	You think that you want to ask us a question?
	I said I think I want to ask you guys a question.
	Go for it.
	Which I will do.
	Good.
	Do it.
	Yeah.
	So.
	When are you going to do it?
	I'm doing it right now.
	Thank you.
	If you could not interrupt me.
	Thanks so much.
	Okay.
	So do guys just like honestly think with their dicks?
	No.
	Not all guys.
	So it's all about.
	What do you think that means, though?
	When you say do we think with our dicks?
	I'm like.
	Are you guys just like horny as fuck all the time?
	And you guys are just thinking about what's like next to hit?
	Or do you actually care?
	We have other thoughts.
	It's like this.
	We do have some other thoughts.
	It's like this.
	It's like this.
	Like when I see an attractive girl, there is just this like irresistible force where my body's like, okay, like, go have this.
	But you can't do that.
	Seriously, seriously.
	Like, it's, it's.
	Yeah, it's, it's, and, like, obviously I can resist.
	What I mean is like, it's like very, it's like a visceral feeling.
	You know what I mean?
	And, like, I've learned to control it very well.
	Good job.
	Thank you.
	But, like, it's, it's a, it's a friggin powerful little reason.
	You literally, like, it's just, it just takes over.
	Like, but the thing is, you get, you learn to, like, I don't know.
	I guess when you're younger, that's why, like, it's like most guys do really just think with their dicks when they're younger until when you're younger.
	But why are you laughing?
	Oh, I have another question.
	I have another question.
	Sorry.
	For you.
	Yeah.
	Do you watch?
	Do you remember my name?
	Porn?
	Do you remember my name?
	It's Chase.
	Chase.
	Yes.
	Do you watch porn?
	I have moments of weakness, yes.
	So you jerk off.
	Yes.
	But you're saving yourself for marriage.
	Watch it like a psycho.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	I could see that.
	But I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	It's all a joke.
	It's all a joke.
	You know what?
	It's all joke.
	Hey, I appreciate the heat, but let me tell you, you can dish it, but y'all can't take it.
	I think I could take some.
	Earlier in the night when he made the fat camp joke, which was funny, by the way, maybe in a little bit of bad taste, y'all got hella sour.
	Okay, cool.
	The fat camp joke.
	Did I get sour?
	No, you know, you got a little bit of a chicken.
	I think I made a face.
	Or I think you, but I think you're coming.
	Maybe I was too.
	Like, I think you were On putting on what?
	Putting on weight?
	See, I can be funny.
	But um, that was funny.
	That was funny.
	That was funny.
	We have a question.
	So, you're okay.
	You say you guys have other thoughts, like as a joke, and we say you guys think with your dicks.
	We don't think like that when we go out to the club, but then you guys do.
	So, is that why you're putting that on us?
	Like, you guys think with your dicks, no, that's not why we're putting it on you guys.
	That's not no, no, no, but like, see how we have a completely different ideal of like when we go out, we're not thinking with our dicks or with our like private parts.
	We're going out to go out, you guys go out and think with your dicks.
	Yeah, so that's why you would guess that we're gonna also do the same thing.
	It's kind of the environment you put yourself in, though, because like collective testosterone.
	There's nuance here when women put on here's the thing, okay?
	I'm just gonna give it to you straight: when girls go out, they put on the right makeup, they put on their best outfit, deep down, there's a part of you that knows if the best guy ever, your dream guy, walked up to you, you would 100% be all over.
	Why not?
	In my mind, I'm dating my dream guy.
	Why not?
	Exactly.
	Okay, but if you're in a relationship, totally natural and normal, yes, 100%.
	It's natural, it's normal.
	But if you're in a relationship, you're not looking for the next best thing.
	You are loyal and you stick to it.
	You might not be, but there are a lot of women that aren't.
	But am I a lot of women?
	No, I'm myself, and I can hold myself.
	We're making commentary on other women.
	There's two of you, though.
	I just want to point that out.
	They're not just two of us.
	We're very bad joke.
	I got it.
	Oh, shit.
	You're defending us, Brian.
	Okay.
	No, I'm not Latina.
	You guys don't think as like, like, like, outwardly, with.
	No, I'm not Latina.
	You guys, you guys don't think in the same way like we think with our dicks, but like, there's a part of you that's like, you know, hey, like, let's see who I meet tonight.
	Wait, glasses, Latina.
	We're single, yeah, yeah.
	So definitely a lot of people.
	Are you black and Asian?
	But there's been a lot of people.
	There's a kind of denial of it.
	When it comes to talking about like relationships, because we're all like us to our freshly added relationships.
	Entertain me said, I can't believe Chase sold us out right after right after the architect said, thank you, Chase, and Myler said, I hate this man too much.
	Yo, what's your beef?
	Just put it in the comments.
	Ian Clasper said the hell.
	He wants to smoke.
	What's going on?
	Wait, explain your beef.
	What the hell is going on?
	I hate this man so much.
	So you asked a question.
	Did we answer it?
	Oh.
	Yeah, you guys did.
	I want to start talking about me talking about thinking.
	Oh, I had another one to ask.
	Go ahead.
	I completely forgot.
	Okay, do you have a question for the panel?
	How dare Chase expose that we think with our dicks?
	I think that might be a good idea.
	Where do you want to meet your future?
	I have some questions.
	Did you guys have any other questions?
	I have one more.
	Where?
	Yeah.
	I mean, they could be anywhere.
	On this podcast.
	I have a big really.
	What's up?
	What's your question?
	Oh, one day you'll see your girl sitting across from you and you're going to be like, damn, she is the one.
	I want to ask a question.
	I'm going to go to the next five questions right now.
	I want to ask a question about post-nut clarity.
	Oh, that's a question.
	I want to talk about it because my ex, that was a big reason why he dated me so quickly.
	Because he didn't get it with me.
	But he got up with everyone else.
	That's the harsh truth.
	What?
	Yeah, can we go like in one, two, and so on?
	What do you think it means?
	What I think it is, is you have this like pent up, like you're like putting a show on for a girl, being like, oh, I want you, like, da-da-da-da.
	Like, you're so beautiful.
	Like, oh, my God.
	You have sex with her.
	You finish.
	You go to the bathroom.
	You come back.
	You're on your phone.
	Like, okay, you can go now.
	That's not good.
	Post-nut clarity, that's not how it works.
	If some guy's down bad, this is probably how most guys first figure out that, like, damn, I need a control thinking of my dick.
	Because if they think too much about it, and then like after they, you know, they nut, they're like, fuck, why did I do that?
	Like, this is kind of like the regret.
	There's a lot of guys that literally will be attracted to that girl in the moment.
	And then they'll have sex with her and be like, oh, actually, never mind.
	They'll turn their back.
	I mean, I think those guys are also probably just trying to get a nut, and then they're just like, all right, exactly.
	I think a follow-up question is like, is that something that we should take personally when that happens to us?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	I think what happens to you?
	I think I take it personally.
	It's a guy-by-guy basis, but like, I mean, all right, the girl I was talking about that I lost my virginity with, I had serious post-nuts.
	The one that wanted you to hit her?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I had serious post-nut clarity with her.
	Was that about you or was that about her?
	It was 100% about her.
	It was 100% about her.
	Like, after I came, I was like, wait, why?
	I was like so bored by her.
	I was like, all right, you need to go.
	Wait, was that because of her looks?
	It was like Chase.
	Yeah, and you're like, Chase.
	You're like, I don't know if you're not.
	It was actually because of how she acted.
	Yeah, okay.
	I had no interesting personal connection with her.
	And so I was like, all right, go away.
	Go away.
	Like, I'm done hearing you talk about it.
	I realize it's just you getting into know who the hell she really was.
	You're like not interested anymore.
	And post-nut clarity is like, the guy just has an objective to like do one thing.
	And then he's just like, all right, I'm done.
	Could I like try to explain?
	Like, I think that's a good idea.
	Let me contrast.
	Let me contrast, just so you guys know.
	I will say, for me, I do not get this quote-unquote post-nut clarity with girls that I really like.
	Girls that I really like, I want to be with them.
	That's a fact.
	I want to be.
	Yeah, I want to be with them.
	Aftercare.
	Yeah, it's not a lot of fun.
	So I'm like, everyone needs to know that.
	I'm going to give them a show and be like, oh my God, I like you so much.
	I want to take you out.
	I want to do all this.
	And then nothing after.
	No.
	Fucking.
	I mean, I don't like date girls unless I'm really interested in them.
	And I'm not going to lie to a girl and lead her on with a bunch of bullshit.
	I think that's really low and manipulative.
	And you shouldn't put up with it.
	Welcome to Orange County.
	Ouch.
	Did you guys have a question?
	I mean, I was just going to try to explain what I think post-nut clarity is.
	Oh, yeah.
	But, you know, I wouldn't.
	What do you think it is?
	What are you thinking?
	Woman Splane.
	What I'm trying to do.
	Well, I think post-nut clarity is.
	I think it's like you go into having sex with such a high hope, and you like see this girl and you're like, oh, she's hot.
	But then you nut or whatever, and you're just like, oh, she's not as hot as I thought she was.
	That's a fairly good description.
	Right?
	I mean, that's what I think, honestly.
	I have a question for the chat.
	Which of the two twins is more attractive?
	Oh, my God.
	That's fucked up.
	That's not.
	Come on.
	That's comparing.
	Thick skin.
	Okay, but honestly, I've been compared.
	No, but you guys are.
	You guys are twins.
	How could they find me?
	So that's not going to hurt my feelings.
	Are we not human?
	Like, what are you doing?
	No, but what I'm saying is you're not going to be able to do it.
	Which one of the boys are everybody calling brother hotter?
	Why does that suck?
	I'm sick.
	You are so out of pocket.
	No, I'm saying you're both.
	That's his brand.
	I'm saying you're bunny.
	No, but I'm saying you're both of equivalent.
	You're twins.
	So you're both equivalently.
	I think the only reason he brought that situation up is because both of you look exactly the same.
	So he's asking them, like, do you guys find them?
	Like, I know that's a good thing.
	It's post-nut clients.
	He's so much deeper to it.
	And it doesn't matter.
	Yo, all you ladies need to hear this.
	Pantsujitsu said post-nut clarity means you don't want to wipe her up.
	That's a fact.
	Okay, cool.
	That's a fact.
	I mean, that's what we were all explaining.
	If a guy gets that with you that you're dating, he's not the one.
	Period.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Question answered.
	What?
	He feels like he's under attack.
	Am I just selling you out, Brian?
	Do you get post-net clarity in your...
	Huh?
	Oh, I thought you were saying that to what I said.
	No, I thought it was funny, but I feel bad for hurting.
	Being mean.
	I'll take both.
	But no, you post-net clarity.
	Oh, okay.
	See, we're all about there.
	At the end of the day, we're all special.
	Exactly.
	We have our quirks.
	Eric, you know what time it is.
	Pull up the Andrew Tate clip.
	All right, let's see him.
	Do the body count.
	Do you guys have any other questions?
	I have a shrine of Andrew Tate in my life.
	No, not anymore.
	I believe it.
	Not after he asked.
	All right.
	You don't even know.
	Hold on, guys.
	Hold on.
	Guys, guys, guys, guys.
	Hold on.
	You said you're meeting up Andrew Tate.
	Guys, hold on.
	Pull up the body count one.
	I think I've seen this.
	Andrew.
	I think I've seen this.
	You guys need to share your thoughts.
	You know what's so attractive about this?
	I've seen this.
	A lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
	I don't actually think it's that.
	I think that in the modern world, I think it's a little bit of a woman when you get married and be together with them.
	In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
	I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
	How many men have fun?
	If I got a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
	I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
	And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
	Like, well, if my last man cheat, I don't give a fuck.
	Like, I don't care.
	Like, why is that my problem?
	So if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
	They've had more fucking rides, more spins.
	I don't want that shit.
	When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
	And also, no, but no, but the truth is, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
	If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall.
	It is unattractive.
	And it's unattractive.
	But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, she really didn't think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special.
	Or she's going to think, you know, like he talked to me, Rudolph, let's go get a new guy.
	Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you, be a better partner.
	The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you.
	He's like squeezing.
	And really, believe me, he's the only man for her.
	After being through so much trauma and so many men sleep with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
	You know what?
	This is the guy I like, every woman who knows this, every man watches.
	To be honest, women fall in love with the person who loses their virginity too, or their second or third guy.
	They really remember them.
	They really love them.
	Any woman who slept with 50 dude, she doesn't even remember from listen to Mars.
	She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
	She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
	She's more likely to just think, you know what new answers, new dick.
	That's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
	Let me make something clear.
	If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying i'm almost.
	That's pretty fucking old.
	30, are you crazy?
	There's been times I was drunk.
	Yeah, that's uh.
	That's dedicated to the girl who flaked because I like Andrew Tate.
	Okay, I fucking hate reaction to the video, please.
	I think he's absolutely.
	Hold on, let's start from here.
	Or actually, you go first.
	Go ahead.
	I think he's deluded.
	I think that he has never had a fucking woman in his life.
	Okay, add hominid and then attack.
	Address his argument.
	Address his argument.
	Okay, if you want to just talk shit about him.
	Yeah, can I please just talk shit about him?
	Okay.
	Please.
	Let's hear it.
	Let it argue.
	I don't want to be so strategic with what he said and shit.
	I think he's absolutely stupid, deluded.
	I think he's never had a strong woman in his life, or he has, but he like ran away because he was too scared to actually listen to her because he's so about himself that he can't even open up his eyes and take a look at like how pussy he is.
	Would you date him?
	Fuck no.
	Never.
	I'd rather kill myself.
	Jesus, man.
	Wow.
	I agree.
	You said you fucking.
	I absolutely do.
	I think that he's just disgusting.
	All of his views are.
	And I think that like when he says like he wants like a young, pure woman, it's like, how old are you, bro?
	Like, how are you not, like, understanding like the fact that people have been through like experiences?
	And like when, like, a young woman who is pure, that just makes you sound like weird.
	Like, it makes you sound like you're a pedophile.
	And such a classic attack.
	It does.
	Young and pure.
	Young and pure.
	What do you want?
	Young and pure.
	This fucking thing.
	What he wants, what he wants is a woman.
	He's a woman without baggage.
	Women without baggage.
	Doesn't he have baggage?
	That's what I was going to say.
	He's perfect.
	He's pure.
	And has never been touched.
	And he wants a girl like that.
	I just want to address that.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Do you know what I mean by baggage?
	Yeah, he has a lot of stuff.
	Well, we have a lot of stuff.
	Like, we've been fucked over with guys, so we hold that baggage.
	And we hold those, like, that.
	Okay.
	I just got to come in here really quick.
	I got to challenge the P-word accusation.
	Men who are attracted to women.
	Let's hear what young women, men who are attracted to young women are not P-words.
	Okay.
	You realize this was the standard throughout almost all of human history.
	I don't even care.
	He's just delusional.
	That should have never been a standard.
	What do you want to say, Sydney?
	Okay, so I've seen Andrew Tate before.
	The guys that I live with, I don't like live with them, but we all live in the same apartment complex.
	And a couple of them, they preach Andrew Tate, right?
	And so they were like.
	He says a lot of really wise things.
	So here's the thing.
	He's a smart dude.
	So listen to me.
	No.
	So I have some smarts.
	I just actually recently.
	Listen, listen, listen, listen.
	He has like a 150 IQ.
	Like, he's extremely intelligent and extremely wise.
	Chase.
	He is.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, Sidney.
	Okay.
	So I think, like, so I actually recently just found out about Andrew Tate, like last month, maybe like three weeks ago.
	And I watched a couple of videos and there were some videos that I was like fully on the same page with him.
	And I was shocked that I was on the same page because I heard like all this shit.
	Like, oh my God, he's like an asshole.
	You know, like, whatever.
	Like, he's misogynistic and all this other shit.
	And I, like, when it came to the videos about him talking about, like, okay, like, if I'm going to take you out to dinner, if I'm going to buy all this shit for you, if I'm going to take care of you, you know, if I'm going to pick your ass up, like, if you're in a shitty situation and you don't do shit around the house, if you're not going to clean, if you're not going to like help like cook, like anything like that, like, fuck you.
	Like, I don't want you in my life, right?
	Two coffees.
	What?
	I think his thing is two coffees, but go ahead.
	Continue.
	Just please continue.
	All right.
	Like, those are things that I agree with 100%.
	Like, I think that he has a lot to say.
	I don't think he can speak on behalf of all women per se because nobody can.
	But I think that he has some points.
	I think there are also some points that, you know, like I do take offense to because, like, sometimes I can, like, put myself, like, I do have baggage for sure.
	You know, so, like, sometimes I feel like I'm being called out, but like, I also have to, like, accept that.
	You know, like, if I have, like, baggage, like, I got to deal with that shit before I put it on to somebody else.
	Sydney, I tip my hat to you.
	Let me shake your head.
	You are one of the most basic.
	You are one of the most based women I've spoken to in a while.
	Guys, if you guys in the chat think Sydney's base, type base Sydney and all casts.
	Can I ask what base means?
	It means fucking.
	How would you do that?
	I just don't.
	Like, your opinions are good.
	You like know the truth and you like see through the bullshit of the world.
	You're red pilled.
	Say how it is.
	You're red-pilled.
	You're red-pilled.
	You say how it is, and you recognize the truth that's hidden behind the layers of bullshit in the world.
	I try to stay grounded.
	I try not to argue with too many people.
	You're not a sheep.
	Like, if someone says you have a based take, it means you see through like all of the layers and you see the golden thread of truth.
	Interesting.
	Thick Sydney, based as fuck.
	Based Sydney, base.
	She's thick.
	Okay.
	I bet.
	Watch.
	Give it time.
	I bet a bunch more will come.
	Allison, what is your reaction to the video?
	I think it's just very double standard because he's saying like we're not allowed to have a previous life before him and we're not allowed to have like all the stuff.
	But I know for a fact he's not perfect and he reacts in certain ways due to trauma and stuff like that and that's baggage.
	But he in his eyes he's allowed to have all that, but his girl, no, definitely not.
	I don't want to deal with it.
	I have my own stuff to deal with.
	That's what he's doing in his head.
	Is it fair to say that men and women value different things in the partner?
	Yes, but I also saw a comment that said guys hide their baggage while girls let guys see it.
	And I also agree with that.
	I feel like guys sometimes never show their baggage.
	Like even in a long relationship, they won't even show it.
	And they just seem like they don't have, because they want to be like the strong man.
	Like they don't want to seem like they have any like trauma or anything.
	And so that's also a thing.
	But girls will just show it because they want their man to be there for them and like understand it.
	But I feel like he's just saying like I am perfect.
	So my girl has to be perfect too.
	He's not perfect.
	I don't know if that's exactly what he's saying, but I mean, his main thing is about body count.
	And I'm sure Andrew Tate's got triple digits.
	Exactly.
	Body count, most likely.
	How many women do you think Andrew Tate slept with?
	Triple 200, 300, 400.
	So why is it a problem for the girls, but it's not a problem for him?
	Well, it's different.
	Body count.
	How?
	How?
	And then there's a fertility key that can unlock every lock is a master key.
	You're going to give me a fit.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	A key that can unlock every lock is a master key, but a lock that can be unlocked by every key is a shitty lock, okay?
	So you're a key and I'm a lock?
	Basically, it's an analogy.
	I don't know if you've heard of the point.
	I went to UCSB.
	I know what an analogy is.
	I know.
	The reason why.
	Do you understand why that analogy exists, though?
	Yeah, but that doesn't make sense.
	I know it's a double standard, but do you know why the double standard exists?
	Why?
	Why male body count and female body count?
	No, I don't know why.
	That's why I asked why.
	Okay, so we've made this point several times on the past few podcasts.
	So basically, it's like this.
	You're an attractive woman, okay?
	If you opened up your Tinder app tonight, you could get laid by the end of the night.
	Super easy for you to do that, okay?
	All four of you girls, all four of you girls, right now, I bet there's probably 10,000 dudes in Santa Barbara that would sleep with you guys tonight.
	But we don't want to sleep with them.
	I understand you don't give a fuck, but I'm making a point here, okay?
	The point is that for girls, having sex is a very easy thing, okay?
	For guys, it's a much more challenging thing.
	Way more.
	You know what I mean?
	You know what I mean?
	We have more options.
	So if our number is big and your number is big, but you have no options, that means you're even going more out of your way to sleep with more people.
	We're just there.
	Do you see where I'm coming from?
	Sydney, you want to come back?
	This is something that I heard that kind of stuck with me.
	A guy told me this, right?
	A girl didn't tell me this.
	A guy told me this.
	So before everyone comes at me.
	Guys get what they can.
	Girls get what they want.
	That's what I heard.
	And I don't know if you guys agree with that.
	It's true.
	Women, I think it's fucked up.
	Yeah, women sleep with who they want.
	Men sleep with who they can.
	If women could.
	Well, if women slept with who they could, their body counts would be insane.
	Their body counts would be insane.
	If women were just sleeping with who they could, it'd be insane.
	It's the same thing.
	It doesn't get surprising.
	Well, we could if we wanted to.
	Yeah, yeah, you could.
	And like as guys, as guys, we value that even though you could if you wanted to, you don't.
	Yeah, but you guys are more than you guys do and you can't.
	I don't.
	My body count is low.
	I'm not exactly like saying wouldn't it be way higher?
	But that's just exactly what we're doing.
	Could my body count be way higher if I was a girl?
	You guys just preached like guys get girls get what they want, whatever.
	We're saying as guys, we value what we value when a woman's body count is lower because she could have sex with a million guys, but when they choose not to, that's awesome because that means she hasn't shared her body with the entire world.
	We like that as guys.
	But then you're the complete opposite and you're getting a girl that's so like, oh my God, I want to save myself.
	And then you're getting a guy that literally couldn't get anything but went out there and tried super hard to get a whole body count.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Nope.
	What do you say?
	Do you guys get what I'm saying?
	What's she saying?
	What's she saying?
	So it's like, she's basically saying that girls, like, they have to be very kind of pure and like they don't into the mic.
	Like, they can scoop the mic closer to the other one.
	Turn people down all the time and they have to be kind of like this pure person.
	But like for guys, it's like they're trying so hard to get a body count.
	And it's like they're coming from the kind of like mental state where they're like trying to get things and the girl is restricting herself on things.
	So it's like which one is more like rep like which one's more, I don't know.
	Like the double standard, you just said it.
	You said it pretty well.
	The double standard.
	Did you say it's insane?
	Yeah, it is.
	It exists for a reason.
	No, it doesn't exist for a reason.
	I'm not saying I agree with you.
	I'm not saying I agree with the idea that like the reason it doesn't make sense to us is what we're saying.
	Keep the mind.
	How does it not make sense?
	Why does that either be?
	By your explanation, you're validating my opinion, not yours.
	How?
	You're saying it doesn't make sense and I'm saying it does make sense.
	How am I validating your opinion?
	Because by your opinion, you're saying if we were just standing there, you and me, there would be 20 guys coming up to me and I say no and there would be like no one coming up to you.
	You're going and looking for sex.
	I don't go and look for sex.
	Okay.
	But in general, like you're talking about us, men are going and looking for sex.
	So they're looking for that.
	So it's like they have a higher body count, but they have to search for that.
	We just have a normal account and we're not searching for it.
	We're not talking about normal counts.
	We're not talking about normal counts.
	We're talking about high body counts.
	And the double standard between a high body count between a men, a man, and a woman.
	Okay, I'm good.
	I'll tell you why body count matters.
	I'll give you a couple reasons.
	I'll give you a couple reasons why body count matters and why men value it.
	And I think this can go both ways.
	By the way, guys, just.
	We're lost in the rabbit hole again.
	Always, always this topic is always something we get lost.
	I'm gonna go summarize deep here.
	I'm gonna just go over it for a while.
	This is not simple.
	I'm gonna go over it really quick, guys.
	So, okay.
	And by the way, women can have this standard too.
	If a woman wanted a guy that did not sleep with a lot of men, that's totally fine.
	Women can have the standard too.
	So, the reason, one of the reasons, big reason people, men like a low body count is, bro, we got to hide the chat.
	These chicks are just too on.
	Let me just make it clear to you.
	Beating a dead horse.
	Let me just make it clear to you.
	I was never saying that I think a high body count for a guy is good or okay.
	This is like, I don't think dudes should just be running through chicks.
	And, like, when I was younger, like, I had a buddy, he had slept with like 100 chicks by the time he was like 22.
	And I was like, damn, bro.
	And I, like, part of me thought he was cool, but also part of me was like, that's pretty gross.
	Because, I mean, do you understand why a guy might think that, though?
	It's, it takes, you have to be like a stud to have a high body count as a guy.
	As a woman, you just have to show up.
	Literally, I said this last podcast.
	As a woman, if you want a high body count, all you have to do is open your legs.
	There's a million dudes that'll line up.
	If you're a guy, it's not the same.
	Okay, we'll ask this.
	Has a guy ever made you wait for sex?
	Wait?
	Has a guy ever made you wait for sex?
	Wait, like I've like long distance-wise?
	No, like before you guys could.
	No.
	Sometimes I feel like we're speaking different languages.
	I don't know.
	It could be waiting in one way and waiting in another.
	Well, you said yes.
	That's not.
	I'll just rapid fire just say the reasons why body count matters really quick.
	Always.
	It's late.
	Yeah, we'll wrap up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, okay.
	STDs.
	If she slept.
	Well, I'm just going to go through it real quick.
	It was really just like.
	What?
	Out of pocket.
	Just like that.
	Excuse me.
	He's just saying all of them.
	We're talking about body count.
	Okay.
	STDs.
	Someone who has a higher body count, who's had more sexual partners, is more likely to have an STD.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So that's a perfectly reasonable reason why both a man or a woman would want a partner with a low body count.
	Also, if you have a higher body count, you're more likely to.
	It's harder for you to pair bond with someone.
	After your 100th partner, are you going to fall as madly into love with this person?
	This is number 101 versus your first or second or third person.
	It's just next one up.
	It's a next six.
	It applies to guys too.
	I do think it has a slightly bigger impact on women.
	Dog, I got a million.
	I got a message from somebody who watched our last episode that we did, Brian.
	He's a born-again Christian now, but prior to becoming a Christian, he had slept with over 150 women.
	He told me, Sydney's eyes went wide when I said that.
	He told me that it's like so hard for him to build an intimate connection with women through sex now.
	Which you mean without sex and whatever.
	Kind of like whatever.
	If you have a bunch of casual sex, you start removing the intimacy from sex.
	To you, it's just you're rewiring your brain.
	Those pathways are set.
	So you're going after your short-term pleasure seeking when you're just seeking casual sex.
	What?
	Can we all be homophobic, bro?
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm reading so funny, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	Which one?
	It's not true, man.
	It's not true.
	I know it's not true.
	Since miss on your fucking skin, it's such a good roast.
	It's such a good roast.
	You have to give props to get someone.
	Should we do one more Tate reaction video?
	I want to hear.
	Are you here?
	Are you Chad?
	I might be.
	Okay.
	Go ahead, Chase.
	I was going to say, I don't know when you plan on closing out, but before we do, I do want to hear from you guys just impressions on the conversation if you have anything to say to us.
	I would like to hear that from them for sure.
	Why don't we do that now?
	Okay.
	Allison.
	What do you mean?
	I'm sorry.
	Impressions.
	You guys are so shallow.
	Maybe ask me this question.
	No, no.
	I just need to ask you.
	Impressions on the conversation.
	What did you say?
	Nothing.
	Say it.
	Come on.
	Say what you say.
	No, I think sometimes you guys ask shallow questions and when someone's trying to broaden it and deepen it, you like dismiss them and say they're stupid.
	But we're actually trying.
	No, because when Liana or like I have spoken and said something much more deeper than the question you've asked, like the fucking comments and you guys always dismiss us.
	The comments and stuff.
	Still, still still, but like you guys dismiss us and don't have to like, you guys don't listen to what we fully have to say.
	I feel like we've been listening and like.
	Okay, thank you then.
	But like I think like sometimes we say things and you guys don't know it's not that you disagree.
	Like agree to disagree.
	We all, like have things to say and like yeah, half of the time that we're saying things like, we're dismissed as like oh, they're stupid.
	But it's like oh, maybe you listen, I think we've.
	I think we follow what we had to say.
	You know, I've never thought you guys were stupid.
	I've never thought you guys were stupid.
	Yeah no, I'm not saying that about you.
	Oh okay, you wanna, because you're always trying to like find the next point.
	You know, instead of listening, like longer and deeper.
	You know maybe like, have someone speak longer and truthfully Brian does do that sometimes, but he's also trying to host a podcast.
	The thing is from, yeah, so definitely, sometimes you cut it short.
	You know what for the fucking show.
	Sometimes yes, I get it a hundred percent.
	I appreciate the feedback.
	Sometimes yes, I move things along or I'm not fully engaged because I am.
	You know I'm, I'm focusing on certain things with the stream and I'm, but as the host, I have a higher conversational burden, so I do need to be a bit more on top.
	No, I get it.
	So it's not your fault, but I think I don't think you're stupid, though no, I'm not saying I'm stupid.
	I think I'm.
	Very literally just said, I'm saying I'm not stupid.
	I'm saying like no, I don't think you're stupid and like you didn't like give us enough time to really like clarify what we were saying.
	Well, I did before you like just laughed about it and said it like I did want to move on from the all right.
	Well if, if you're gonna direct some heat at us, allow me, I mean, that's not heat, it's a fact.
	Well, let me drop a fact on you.
	All right, drop it.
	Then let me drop a fact on you.
	Yeah, I know this is good, this is good.
	This is good.
	It's.
	It's all in love and fun.
	I'm having fun with it.
	There have been times where we've explained things to you guys and you've been like, what the fuck?
	Like that's not, what the fuck?
	That's fucked up, and then like we would explain it a different way later and you guys were like yeah, I guess, I guess we agree, I guess yeah, but that's that's what it is.
	Being optimistic and like listening to other people's points, I feel like you should do it more, so like on our points as well, instead of just speaking what you have to say.
	I feel like we've heard you guys out listening.
	Yeah, we've heard.
	Well, maybe we've talked a lot.
	We have you.
	You guys might have talked more than me, I mean because you're asking all the questions.
	So well, I'm the host.
	Should we move to the next well chase?
	You wanted them to their thoughts on the stream?
	Did you want to go through the panel or you just wanted one girl to no?
	I just, yeah, I wanted to hear what your guys' thoughts were on the conversation.
	You know, like we've gone a lot of places tonight.
	I'll tell you guys my thoughts.
	First off, Sydney, I think it was extremely brave that you shared what you shared with us, both about your body count and also your first experience.
	I could tell that was uncomfortable for you sharing that.
	And she's a badass.
	We've overcome that from, you know, whatever.
	From whatever.
	Like, shows over.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	From the show, whatever.
	That's why we just end every show from whatever.
	It's like, okay.
	Yeah.
	No, I have respect for that.
	I totally agree, too.
	You've been open with everything.
	You've been like, I don't know.
	I like the whole panel.
	Yeah.
	I feel like the whole panel, I feel like you guys are great.
	You guys are all fun.
	I think you're going to make a super fun wife someday and like a super based wife.
	I wish the dudes that married you guys good luck because these are all good.
	Just because you guys are very strong, independent woman, and like I feel like you're going to give your guy a lot to wrestle with.
	And like, I don't know.
	I feel like you're.
	You know what I mean?
	What I want to say.
	Don't take that in a bad way.
	Wait, wait.
	Can I just come to their defense, though?
	Honestly.
	Can I just come to their defense?
	We do.
	I'm not saying that to roast you.
	It's not to roast you.
	I don't take it.
	Let me just say this.
	Right now, we're engaged in a conversation, and we're debating.
	We're having a debate.
	And I think they're engaging in the debate, you know?
	They're being participants.
	So to say that how they are, you know, the way in which they're debating is going to be a reflection on how they are one-on-one with a guy.
	I'll just say this: my mother and my grandmother had the exact same mentalities as you guys in their marriages, and they had gave their husbands hell.
	And I understand why you guys look at independence and all the stuff that you guys have explained the way that you do.
	But it's just like there's dangers that can come with it as well that can make marriage hard.
	Can I just say one thing?
	Please.
	I think you're incredibly rude.
	And you have a small jig.
	Holy shit.
	100%.
	I can tell by what you're giving off.
	Guys, guys.
	Okay.
	I'm waiting for the comments.
	Not a super original roast, but it was funny.
	I do want to, if I can just come to their defense.
	Like, when I'm with a girl one-on-one, like, I'm not talking about this shit with her.
	I'm not, like, talking about body count.
	I'm not getting into a debate with her.
	If I'm with a girl, I just want to have like oh God.
	I just want to have a good time.
	I don't like to talk politics.
	I don't like to talk dating meta shit with chicks.
	Yeah.
	I just want to have, like, but, but when we are put in an environment like this where we are talking about the dating meta, where we're talking about our principles and like, then yeah, we're going to have it's fun content.
	It's fun.
	That wasn't fun controversial.
	Like, that was an ad hominem attack on Chase, though.
	I will say.
	It's all right.
	I criticize their character too.
	It's okay.
	I was expecting some flames back.
	It's all right.
	No, like, I already know I'm going to have a very great relationship in my endgame with who I'm with.
	They will put up with me and they will, you know, respect.
	They'll respect me as a person.
	I mean like, sure, you want a holy girl that's gonna like fuck you like what, once or twice a week, and you're gonna be happy about that?
	Like, no, she's gonna have sex ways.
	More spice than you will ever get in your life.
	Let's try to embarrass.
	Let's try to.
	It's just, it's the fact that you even had to say he will put up with me.
	He'll put up with him.
	Like, that's, that's, that's like.
	So your wife's going to have no attitude at all.
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying that she's going to, she's going to have attitude, but, like, I don't know.
	I think she's going to have to put up with me.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, I don't think I'm going to be the kind of husband that somebody's going to have to put up with.
	I think what she meant, though, is like, she's not going to let him just get his way.
	She's going to also, you know, they're going to challenge each other.
	Like, and they're going to get through it.
	I'm just going to walk away.
	I think how he worded it at first was a little, you know, at first.
	Maybe it took it to offense, so I get it.
	But I think what he really meant is like, you guys are, what he was saying was strong and independent.
	You are going to challenge that guy.
	You know, and that's what he basically literally said to us that he was like, good luck with like yours.
	I think he was just worded wrong.
	I think you guys will be very challenging to your husbands.
	No, I don't.
	I think a lot of you guys are going to be able to do that.
	I think that we should move on from this topic because I think that everything that you're going to say is going to go in the wrong way.
	Okay, anyway.
	Like I'm going to take it in the wrong way.
	That's why I'm going to be able to do it.
	Let's just change the subject.
	Would you guys like to see an Andrew Tate video that put the cherry on top of me?
	Maybe not.
	I don't really want to.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's all right.
	We'll wrap.
	We'll do the super chats and then we'll wrap up, guys.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, by Chase Master Key Chat.
	I heard take her around the back and prove her wrong.
	Okay, Mike Davis.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay, Mike Davis with the 10.
	Mike Davis with the $10 super chat.
	Get Brandon on here and have him do a fit check.
	I may have to join the trends for a bathroom break after that.
	Brandon, you in chat, brother.
	Are you in chat?
	Okay.
	Mike Davis, thank you so much for the continued support week after week, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat highest.
	Divorce rates are among lesbian marriages.
	Lowest are among gay marriages.
	Look it up.
	So who's the problem in your relationships?
	Oh.
	Oh, fuck.
	Yeah, I've seen some stats about.
	I feel like there's less lesbian marriages than normal.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
	I've always wondered if twins share the same period cycle.
	White t-shirt is disproving it.
	I'm not sure.
	Okay.
	I'm not sure what he means by that.
	Is that sharky?
	Girls are attracted to guys for security and protection.
	Guys are attracted to girls for purity and beauty.
	That's why body count matters.
	Okay.
	Any last final thoughts before I wrap up the show?
	Yeah, this was so much fun.
	Thank you.
	Someone said Chase can't recover.
	We went long, guys.
	Sorry.
	Guys, I'm exercising self-control right now.
	I don't want to take out the flamethrower.
	Oh, gosh.
	Yeah, let's wrap up.
	Extinguish that, bro.
	I don't want it to be.
	What'd you say?
	Extinguish it.
	I already feel the torch coming out, man.
	Okay.
	Well, we're going to wrap up, guys.
	This was a very long stream.
	This may have been my longest stream ever.
	I want to thank you all for tuning in tonight.
	It's like four hours.
	Yeah.
	11.
	I did that math right, right?
	It's 11 and 4 hours.
	Yeah, my gym's closed.
	Shoot.
	7.
	you have to go to key so uh guys we will i i also just want to say i also just want to say thank you It was fun.
	I had fun.
	It was fun.
	It was fun.
	Thanks for the compliments.
	Thank you so much.
	And also, thank you as well for your court.
	I know we disagreed on things, but you were cordial and it was fun.
	I had fun with you guys.
	I've been on two other panels.
	This is probably the best one.
	You guys give really good insight.
	Like all of you, you guys get a good balance.
	You guys were great.
	Thank you so much.
	So, yeah, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	We will be live again with the next Dating Talk Show next Tuesday, Tuesday, 7 p.m. Pacific time.
	I want to thank the panel for joining us today.
	Thank you guys so much.
	You were wonderful.
	Sorry I went a bit late.
	Thank you guys.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Thank you guys for watching, and we will see you next time.
	Thank you guys.
	Have a good night.
	Peace.

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