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Yeah, so by the way, I want to comment to you guys in chat.
Y'all have been hilarious in chat lately.
I like all the bricks in and chat chase with the next stuff.
Unfortunately, Chase is not, he was busy today, but he should be here on Thursday.
And I'm outnumbered.
I'm outnumbered.
I do have Kiki, but yeah, so take it easy on me, guys.
This is uneven odds.
Okay, so we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and/or school major.
Hi, everyone.
My name is Cara, and I'm 18, and I'm a model fashion content creator and also a student in UCSB.
Thank you.
You're a content creator.
Yeah, like mailing to like fashion stuff.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you have a YouTube channel?
No, honestly.
Like, I'm mailing to Instagram right now.
Just Instagram.
Okay, cool, cool.
My name's Jackie.
I'm 21 years old.
I'm a communication major at UCSB and Applied Psych minor.
I'm also a personal trainer and I am single.
My name is Kitty.
I'm 21 years old and I'm a psychological and brain sciences major.
And what was the third question?
Was there a third question?
Are you single?
Oh, I am single.
Wait, I don't.
I didn't ask that.
I'll get to that.
Name, age, occupation, and/or school major.
Yeah, and that was it.
Okay, Sydney?
My name's Sydney.
I am an acting major, so I'm starting to become an actress, and I do modeling on the side.
And I think I covered everything.
And hi, I'm Claudia.
I'm 21.
I went to UCSB, and now I do management full-time.
So it's fun.
Okay, by the way, everyone's Instagrams are in the description, so please show them some love, give them a follow, give me a follow while you're at it.
So I want to go around the table once again.
Relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
I'm dating someone right now, so I'm not single.
And my longest relationship, I think, is a year.
And I'm not on the dating app right now because I'm dating someone.
Yeah.
And your longest relationship, is that your current relationship?
No, no.
Okay.
So is it pretty new, your current one?
Yes.
Okay.
How long have y'all been?
I think three or four months.
Three or four months.
Okay.
And is it a fellow UCSB student or?
Yeah, his rising senior.
Rising senior?
Yeah.
What is a rising senior?
Like, he's going to be a senior this fall.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
Okay.
And is he also an international student?
No, he's from Los Aldos.
Okay.
A place.
Sure.
Yeah.
Got it.
I'm single.
My longest relationship was a little over three years.
And I am on a dating app.
Which ones?
Tinder.
Just Tinder?
Yeah.
But I'm not like scrolling on it.
It's more so of a like, put my Instagram in the bio, get some followers.
Wow, finesse.
The finesse.
So you're just basically you're putting your Instagram in the thing and you're getting followers?
I post like fitness content on my Instagram, so it's just a nice way to get some traffic.
Are you a trainer?
I am a trainer, yeah.
Okay.
So.
But are you genuinely trying to date anybody or is it just a picture?
No, not on Tinder.
Not off Tinder.
No.
So then why even be on Tinder?
It's just to have my Instagram in the bio to gain traffic on my account.
But it is a dating app, right?
It's not a here, let's promote.
Well, you know, they have those people where they're like, I'm looking for friends, but no.
I'm using it.
Do you think most guys on there are looking for friends?
I mean, friendsly can fuck, but like, not.
Right.
They want a little bit more than that.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Now, do you lead?
Have you led any guys on?
No.
Because you're not.
I mean, I used to be on Tinder to like hook up like me guys, whatever, but right now, like, that's not my sole purpose.
Okay.
Got it.
But yeah, no, I don't, I wouldn't say I've led guys on Tinder.
Because I imagine, like, do you match with guys or you're not even matching with anybody and it's just so they see your profile?
Or do you swipe on everybody?
I don't really swipe on it.
Yeah, no.
Okay.
All right.
It's promotional.
Okay.
Yeah.
I am kind of single.
And my longest relationship was probably like six months.
And then I'm not on any dating apps.
Kind of single.
What does that mean?
I'm dating, I would say.
I think a lot of people, yeah, because I feel like a lot of people take dating and like a relationship as the same thing, as synonymous, but I don't think there.
I think like dating is something you do to get to know people.
So I've been dating someone for a while.
How long?
Well, it's someone I've known forever.
So like.
Okay, you're friends before.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, so like in the flirting stage and stuff, probably.
It's my ex.
I don't know why I didn't just say that.
Wait, hold on.
It's your ex.
Yes.
Yeah.
So we're just kind of like talking again, you could say.
Who initiated that?
It kind of, he's in my friend group, so we kind of always are like together, and it kind of just, we just kind of started like flirting again and stuff like that.
Why did he break up with you?
He didn't.
We kind of, it was like a bad communication type of thing, and we just decided that we would take a break and like let each other grow a little bit and then come back to it.
So that's where we're at right now.
So is mutual.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I see.
Sydney?
I'm single.
Still.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Rip.
Yeah, no, I'm still single, not seeing anybody.
And my longest relationship was six months.
Didn't some guy DM you though from a previous he saw you on the show and he DM'd you?
Yeah.
Nothing didn't go down?
No, he just followed me and he DM'd me.
He's like, hey, I see you on the podcast.
Like you're one of my favorites.
And I was like, thanks.
I don't know.
It was kind of cool.
Because I do acting, so it was like, it felt like a little fan.
It was cool.
Yeah.
But no, still not seeing anybody.
Any dating apps?
Yeah, Tinder.
Just Tinder?
Yeah, just Tinder.
I promise.
You promise?
I promise.
It's just Tinder.
The other ones are just like, I don't know.
Tinder's simple.
Like, swipe left, swipe right, message.
The other ones are a little too hectic for me.
When's the last time you were on a date?
Like maybe a month and a half ago?
Month and a half ago?
Month or two?
Was it from Tinder?
I think it was from Tinder.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm currently seeing somebody, but it's very casual.
So we would both say we're single, but we're not seeing other people.
And I do still have Tinder, and I also have Her, which is like a dating app for women, but I just am not on there.
What is her?
It's just like Tinder, just for women.
Who are single-like, yeah.
It's like for lesbians or bi-women?
Yeah, for queer people, I should say.
Okay, so you're, are you bisexual?
I'm technically pansexual, but it falls under the bisexual umbrella.
I know.
I don't want to sound like that person, but.
No, it's okay.
Pansexual, that's like you're open to all genders.
Yeah, I don't know.
Including like transgender and.
Okay, got it.
Okay.
So long as you're hot, we can make it work.
As long as you're hot.
Okay.
So just a reminder, so you're single?
No, wait.
Single.
Not single.
Okay.
So when's the last time y'all have hooked up with someone?
What do you consider hooking up?
Sex.
Like sex.
Oh.
Sunday.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but you're in the thing.
This is for the singles.
Oh, for Sydney, too.
Sydney, why don't you go ahead?
Within the month.
Yeah.
Wait, but I thought, didn't you say your last date was like a month and a half ago?
Yeah.
Okay, so you differentiate between a date and having a business.
This was like someone that I was like talking to a while ago from like out of town.
And then he came in town and he like visited and stayed the night.
Jackie?
Five months ago.
Five months?
Five months.
Really?
Really?
Nothing.
I don't be fucking like.
By choice?
By choice.
By choice.
Not to sound like.
But yeah, by choice.
Why do you think you're single?
Well, I'm not actively searching for a boyfriend right now, so I think that definitely plays into it.
But I also don't really like the dating pool here in Santa Barbara or in my hometown.
So yeah, I'm not really liking the options that are presented to me.
And I like meeting people in real life, not like over Instagram.
Organic.
Or social media.
Yeah, so.
Okay.
Huh.
Wait, so you don't, you said you don't like meeting people here in Santa Barbara?
I don't like the dating pool.
Because like I said before, like I've been on Tinder.
Like I'm a fourth year here, so I've seen like most of the fish in the sea.
You've been around the block?
Not in that sense.
Not in that sense, but you.
I've seen.
I've been strolling on the block and I've seen.
Yeah.
You know.
I know.
And you you did four years at this is your fourth year It's going to be my fourth year.
Yes.
Like, you didn't go to two-year and then transfer.
Okay, so you've been here for a minute.
And you two are friends, right?
Yeah.
Have you both been here for four years?
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
And this is your first year?
Yeah, I actually just finished my first year at UCSB.
Yeah, so this year going to be the second year.
Okay.
So you three go to UCSB, you go to CC, and are you, sorry, remind me, are you in school?
No, I took time off of school.
Okay, got it.
So I want to ask this question because I've asked this last week.
Of the three of you that go to UCSB, what do you think about, and do you look down upon men who go to Santa Barbara City College, SBCC?
What?
I personally don't mind.
Like, I think it's great that they're still chasing their goals.
Like, there's nothing wrong with CCs, and I think there's definitely a really big stigma surrounding that.
But I would say, like, the CC culture is a little different than UCSB, I feel.
I feel like they definitely do have, like, they party more.
Like, obviously, we all party.
We're all here in Santa Barbara.
We're having a good fucking time.
But I do think they party more.
So they're out more.
They're on the streets.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
I want to go around one last time on two questions.
Actually, you know what?
Never mind.
So the first thing I want to ask you guys is what do you guys think about cougars?
So older women dating younger guys.
For example, a woman, you guys are familiar with the term cougar.
So a woman in her mid-30s or let's say mid-30s, late 30s, even getting into her 40s, maybe even older.
Dating a guy in college or maybe a guy in his mid-20s.
What do you think about the cougar phenomenon?
Are you like, you go girl, slay queen?
I am.
Let's start over here with you.
I mean, I don't think it's like a problem, but it's just a personal choice.
So yeah, I have no opinion on that.
So whether like you date an older man or you date an older woman, it's just your personal choice.
And as long as if you're the younger one, if you're happy with the relationship, what you can get, then it's just totally fine.
I agree with her.
I think like if you're both having fun, then hey, like who cares?
But I do think like to an extent of the dating, it can get a little odd.
Like if you're trying to pursue marriage with someone who's like 20 years younger than you, I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, sure, they might be really mature for their age, but I don't know what's wrong with the people your age.
Like, yeah.
So, not in favor of the Cougar thing.
Not in favor of cougars searching for serious relationships with younger men.
I'm talking younger, like 15 years plus.
What about like 10 years?
Okay, like, yeah, that's okay.
Okay.
But, like, 15, that's kind of weird.
That's too much.
15 is too much.
Okay.
What do you think?
I feel like it's very situational.
Like, it depends on who the person is.
And, like, you know, sometimes younger people or younger men are more mature, or sometimes it's older men that are more mature, so it just depends.
I don't have a problem with it.
I think you do what you want.
I have like friends who have parents that are like 20 years apart from each other, and they're working out perfectly fine.
So I don't see why it's an issue.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of say, like, whatever floats your boat, you know, like, if I kind of like agree with what Jackie says, like, if the cougar is looking to like settle down, it's a little bit.
Into the mic.
If a cougar is looking to like settle down, it's a lot more difficult because then this like 20-something-year-old might be on like a different page.
But if they're on the same page, like I don't see why it can't work, you know?
Like, it's all about like the two people.
I think the same, so long as they're consenting and you know, they're on the same page about what they are, that's fine.
But shouldn't be a big deal.
Okay, got it, got it.
So, we're gonna react to something here.
Eric, if you can go ahead and switch it on over to the infographic and then the there we go.
All right, so this is Leonardo DiCaprio.
This is an infographic that was on Reddit a couple years ago.
They recently was redone, but it got taken off of Reddit.
So, this is a couple years old.
I think it was last done in 2019.
So, I don't know if you guys heard Leonardo DiCaprio recently broke up with his most recent girlfriend, Camila Marone.
And there's a trend.
He seems to never date a woman past 25.
So, if you see there at the bottom, he broke up with Bar Raffaelli when she turned 25.
He broke up with Kelly Rohrbach, broke up with Nina Agdahl.
And now, recently, he broke up with Camila when she, I think she turned 25.
As you see, his age continues to go up.
Leonardo DiCaprio, obviously, incredibly famous, probably one of the top-tier actors out there.
So, I want to get your guys' take on Leo, on this chart, on what you think about it.
And let's start over here with you.
What do I think about it?
What do you think about that?
I think it's, I don't know, like, pretty normal because, like, he's such a like famous celebrity, and he was like super handsome when he was young, and he played so many movies and stuff.
So, he got a bunch of choice, I have to say.
Yeah.
And a lot of girls fancy him because we all know like he's a super good-looking guy when he was young.
So, I mean, yeah, it's kind of reasonable.
Yeah.
When he was young.
Yeah.
Do you think he's still handsome now?
I would say not my type.
Not your type.
What's your type?
I don't really have a type, but I usually like, I mean, like, personality is the most important thing.
But for appearance, maybe, like, taller guys.
At least you have to be taller than me.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'8 and a half.
So what is your height?
What my height?
Like, minimum height for a guy.
5'8.
5'8.
Okay, so just your height or taller?
Yeah, yeah.
Got it.
Just really quick around the panel.
Do y'all think Leo is still a babe?
Big.
Babe.
Is he still a babe?
No.
She's feeling it.
I feel like when I think of celebrities, sometimes I put them on this pedestal and I forget that they're actually people.
So like when I think about him as a regular person, when I think of him as a regular person, I think definitely not, but like as a celebrity, yes.
I think his acting is really good.
Sure, Sydney.
I don't really look at him like that, honestly.
So Leonardo DiCaprio slides into your DMs.
Don't do that.
Finds you, runs into you at Trader Joe's.
You're not going for him.
Yeah, if he slides in my DMs, I'll be like, hey.
It is Leonardo DiCaprio.
It is Leonardo DiCaprio.
He's breaking up with you when you turn 25.
I'm sure.
I have another solid four years, though.
Okay, that could be a good idea.
I could make that happen in four years.
There you go.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then.
No, I'm not really checking for him.
Okay.
So just to bring it back, I know I was asking if you guys still think he's attractive, but just your reaction to the chart, you know, him, his preferences in women, your thoughts.
So kind of relating it to the Cougar conversation, I do think it's a bit weird that it's like a consistent, like, I'm looking for under 25 or 25 happening at 25, because then it's a pattern.
And now it's like, okay, dude, like, why are you constantly searching for women who are 25 and under?
I mean, sure, maybe you guys might have a connection, but I'm sure you may be able to connect with women who are closer to your age.
And it's just like, if you're constantly talking to younger women when you have like that much of an age gap, I don't know.
Maybe, I don't know.
I just, I'm not a fan, personally, of that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, my initial reaction was I was kind of shocked because like I didn't know that I had never seen that trend before.
But yeah, I agree with everything she said.
I think it's when it becomes a pattern, it's when it's like weird.
Yeah, I mean, I never noticed the pattern before, which I think is a little bit odd, but I think like it's not, like, it's a celebrity, you know, if he can pull, he can pull.
Like, if he's like having a good time dating, great.
But it is like kind of what I mentioned, like, if he's looking for marriage with these girls who are in a different stage of their life than him, then it's different.
But it's not like he's like dating like fresh out of high school and like trying to groom them in a way.
Like these women are 25.
Like they're like out of college, like looking for a house, like trying to settle down.
So like if that's what works for them, but it is weird that he's like breaking up and like ending things right when they're 25.
I think that's a little odd.
Well, we don't know exactly what's going on with these relationships.
It could certainly be the case that they're breaking up with him.
So.
I did hear a rumor that the reason why he was dating women like up into a point, like aging them out, was that he wanted to give them time to find their own families.
But to me, it's still kind of weird because I feel like you could just still date an older woman who just doesn't want to have kids.
So it has to be like the age thing for him.
I don't know.
It's just so consistent and he keeps getting older and older and older.
I feel like at some point, shouldn't your taste grow up with you in a way?
Like, you're not looking for that kind of thing in a woman.
I also feel like if the rumor is true, if he is breaking up with them or the relationship's ending so that they can find their families, that just tells you how serious the dating is.
So, in that case, I still think it's weird that he's dating specifically 25 and under, but at the same time, it does seem like he's going into it with his intentions being known and told to the woman.
So, hey, go for it, Leonardo.
Okay.
Any other thoughts from anybody?
All right.
So, there were some kind of different answers there when I first asked you guys about the cougars and then just your reaction to the Leonardo DiCaprio thing.
So, that's kind of interesting.
But more broadly speaking, removing Leonardo DiCaprio from this conversation, what do you think about age gaps in dating?
And I'm referring to adult relationships, so both people, you know, obviously over the age of 18, but for example, say a 35-year-old dating a 25-year-old, or a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old, for example.
We'll start with you.
What do you think?
Honestly, I think, I don't know, like some people like to date people are in the same age with them, but like some people are not.
Like, for me personally, I would like to date guys older than me, like even five years old, older, or I mean, as long as under 15, 10 years old, older than me.
That's fine.
Because I don't know, I think at the same age, men, like, they are like, I don't know, they grow mature like slower than women, like mentally.
It also depends on like what you've been through, like, what kind of environment you grow up.
But I just feel like, I don't know, like when men grow older, they got more protective and they know how to take care of others.
So, yeah, that's just my personal preference.
Okay.
I think age gaps are really sticky.
Like, when it comes to dating, if you, okay, pretty much like the whole like thing, if you are constantly searching for women who are a certain age, I think it's just a little odd.
However, I do understand like people can be mature for their age.
Like, I get it, but I just think it is a little bit odd if you are an older person, like, searching for someone who was a certain age.
That's where I just think it's really weird.
But I do like understand relationships where people are older, some people are younger, and they just click.
And, like, I think that's cute, cool.
But if you're looking for someone a certain age, I don't know.
That's just weird to me.
Like I said, with the whole cougar thing, I don't think it's an issue.
But I think where it becomes weird for me is when it's happening over and over again, and like it's becoming a trend, and that's where it's like kind of weird, whether it's a woman or a man.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of like what Jackie said about if you keep like hunting for someone at that specific age, that's weird.
But I mean, I also agree, like, Nick and Priyanka are 10 years apart, and they're extremely happy.
And they've even mentioned their age gap, and they make jokes about it.
But like for me, like I'm 21, and if I'm talking to somebody and like the guy's like, oh yeah, I'm 19, that kind of, even that like, that like small age gap like makes me feel a little weird.
But that's like also based on like a maturity thing.
But if you're older, I feel like if it works and you like like the person, like, who cares?
Yeah, I actually started seeing somebody who we have a pretty significant age gap between us, and it's been interesting.
I definitely like it better than dating guys who are closer to my age because I feel like maybe it's just because it's IV, but everybody here is kind of like a fuckboy.
They're on that same mentality.
What's up?
What is a what is a fuckboy?
It's just a guy who like not only because wanting to sleep around is fine.
Like you can want to sleep around, but I feel like they just don't want to be upfront with you about what they want.
So they'll try to like they play games.
I'm like, there's no point in playing games.
We're both adults.
Like we both want to have sex.
Let's just be very open and honest and clear about it.
Let's just have sex and that's it.
The thing is that guys can't really be upfront with women about that.
Why not?
No guy can just okay, let me ask, we'll go around the table on this.
If a guy just came up to you, walked up to you and just said politely, hey, I think you're attractive.
Do you want to have sex with me?
What's your response going to be?
No.
If I'm feeling him and he's fine as fuck, I'm going to be like, yeah, sing me there tonight.
Cap, stop.
Not come on.
I'm not capping.
Keeping it a buck.
You're going to feel a certain type of way if a guy comes up to you and he's like, hey, want to fuck.
I'm saying if I've been eyeing him too and he comes up to me like that, hell yeah.
But if he's just a weirdo coming up to me out of nowhere, I'm going to be like, excuse me.
What happened to hello?
What happened to, how are you?
How are you?
Honestly, I would say no, I would say no.
But like, who goes up to someone like that?
When she's saying be direct, I think it's more like, hey, like, I think you're cute.
Like, would you like to hang out?
Boys, like, fuckboys be like, oh, I kind of want to date you.
Like, they make you think they want more than they do.
That's the problem.
Well, they kind of have to, though, if they want to get laid.
I think if they're direct in the way we're talking about, it's fine.
Honestly, for most guys, if they say, hey, I just want to let you know, I just want to fuck you a couple times and then never talk to you again.
Or fuck you once and never talk to you again, that's a wrap.
Most girls are going to be like, nah.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
But like, I feel like a lot of girls, when they're talking to a guy, and they're, most girls are going to be angling for something more.
Not always, because like guys like to have fun just like, like females like to have fun just as much as guys, if not more, especially like, and I know you can agree with this, but like if you're in the gym all the time, your sex drive is through the roof.
But like if there's like, I don't know, personally for me, like I'm not like a sleep around type.
I'm definitely down to flirt, like fool around if it happens.
But like, yeah, if a guy is just like comes like up to me, he's like, oh, you want to fuck?
No.
But like if I see him at the bar, like we're making eye contact, we're flirting, we're vibing, and it like goes somewhere that's different.
But yeah, if they had a party, like, hey, I think you're hot.
You want to like go back to my place?
Not really down with that.
But that's just me and like where I'm at now.
I think also it shouldn't be like, hey, do you want to have sex?
Like put a little sauce into it.
Like, you know.
Like a little flare.
Yeah.
Say it right.
Like put some extra words, some vocab like something.
I don't know.
I think most guys, most guys experience, they have to put in like a bit of work before they can get laid.
Then they're not doing it right.
That's.
Okay, maybe if you guys are chasing after the top 10 or 20% of men, which I think happens to be what's going on in the dating marketplace, and you see this backed up by what's going on on Tinder, basically the top 10 or 20% of men are getting all the women, and then there's like the, unless you're in that top 20%, the rest of them are fighting for scraps.
I shouldn't say, not scraps, but like they're struggling on the dating apps.
I think in IV, it's I'm trying to figure out how to word this.
I think like it's a different situation where it's like, instead of just like being straight up like, hey, do you want to fuck?
Or instead of like, hey, I think you're really attracted.
Like, what's your like number, Snapchat, whatever.
And then y'all can go like, go to deja vu, go to get some food, like walk around a bit, like see where the night goes.
And then if you go back, that's different because then it's like, there's a little something there where it's not just straight up like.
Bro, even a lot of girls aren't going to be down for first night even then.
Even if you take them out, you pay for their shit.
A lot of girls even then are not down for first night.
It has to, it depends on, yeah, it is a personal.
I get that.
I feel like men assume that the girl's not going to be down for that, but it's like every girl is different.
You don't know what you're going to get until you try.
Y'all got to try.
Yeah, but then, see, guys are kind of in this damned if you do, damned if you don't situation where if they do try too soon, then the girl's going to start thinking, oh, he just wants to fuck.
Okay, this is.
I've heard that from girls too.
I've heard girls say, if a guy tries too soon to make a move, it's kind of a turnoff.
It's worse if the guy makes moves too slow.
It's definitely if the guy doesn't make a move quick enough, that's worse than making it too soon, but it's still going to be viewed in that certain type of way.
I think it just really depends on the situation in which we meet.
Because if it's on Tinder, expect that I'm just trying to fuck.
No, even chicks on Tinder, though.
I guess it depends on the girl.
Make you wait.
Sorry, go ahead.
But I feel like you could read that based off of bios.
Like for certain people, like men and women, I'll be able to tell just from their bio, like kind of what they're looking for.
Like if you're giving me three sentences of information about yourself, like you want to date.
You're not here to just fuck because already I know more about you than I want to.
Like my bio is two words or three just for fun.
You know?
So obviously.
But then you know what you want.
Right from that bio, it's clear what you want.
So like right from that bio, it's like very clear, like you want this specific thing.
Whereas like some people will have like a whole ass bio and it's just like, okay, so do you want a relationship or you just want to fuck?
Like you have to, I don't know.
I feel like if you're just clear about it and be like transparent.
It's like that has so many steps.
Yeah.
That's just me.
Did you want to come in on this?
Just be straight up.
Like if you get rejected, you get rejected and that's that.
Like I don't know what else to tell you.
Guys, guys, for the most part, can't really be super straight up, I think.
They can't.
Y'all want the truth.
You can't handle the truth.
Because if a lot of guys were just straight up about their intentions, they wouldn't get laid.
I can see that.
And that's the problem.
It's just weird we have to be sneaky about it.
Like, I don't like that.
I know gay men don't have this problem.
Not from first-hand experience, but.
Okay.
That's what it's going to pop off.
That's what I've heard.
It's very straightforward.
But you know, like a lot of girls, at least in my experience, they don't really treat sex as a equal value exchange.
They want like they want something.
They want take me on a date.
You know, they want something first.
They don't want to just, okay, come over, let's hook up.
That's been my experience.
Don't get me wrong, there's definitely been girls that it's been pretty quick, but I'd say the vast majority of women, it's not going to be straight up like that.
I think a flirty conversation is the main thing, because I want to know that you're not like a weirdo or like a creep.
Like, I want to be able to have somewhat of like a little bit of a vibe with you.
Like, I don't, I don't do the whole like random hookup thing, but that way, if I like take you straight back to my house and you're like weird, it's just like, okay, well, now get out, you know?
Or like, what's my escape route?
You have to, like, just a little bit of a like tension vibe, like something.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anyways, we kind of derailed there a little bit.
Maybe we can come back to that.
So you were talking about fuckboys.
What is a fuckboy?
Oh, yeah.
So just somebody who misleads you, makes you feel like you guys are going to be more than what you are, like, purposely tries to make you feel that way in order to just get a quick nut and then ghost you.
Or he'll just be an asshole for no reason.
And that's a fuckboy.
I want to go around the table on this.
What, how do you define fuckboy?
I mean, just they only want to have sex, and except for that, nothing else.
Yeah, basically, I think.
Yeah, he just wants to fuck.
Like, it's in the name.
Just wants to have sex.
He just wants to have sex.
Okay.
I think somebody who's for everybody, like someone who just has no, it's just literally for everybody, and you just want to fuck.
And yeah.
Yeah, just want to fuck around, play, play the field, have some fun.
Should fuckboys be shamed?
No.
If you're not hurting people in the process, if you're not hurting people in the process, then go ahead, have fun.
Like, live your life, because hot girl, summer, hot boy, summer.
But if you're hurting people's feelings in the process, I think you should take some time to do some self-evaluation.
I agree.
Like, yeah, if you're just fucking having sex all the time and like it's okay with the girls, like they understand that, cool.
But if you're going around being an asshole and just making all these girls feel like they're your girlfriend or something more, then no.
No, thank you.
I feel like nine times out of ten, though, they do end up hurting somebody.
So I think in a sense, they should be ashamed because like you're not, you know what the outcome is at the end of the day.
The girl's not going to be happy that you just fucked with her and then just dip.
So I think they should be ashamed.
I kind of disagree on that one.
Do you guys know just you don't have to, we won't have to go around, but do you guys know any fuckboys?
I did.
Have you dated a fuckboy, hooked up with a fuckboy?
No.
No.
I don't think so.
Really?
I hope not.
Okay.
Okay.
So my question is, do you think that the terms fuckboy and slut are synonymous?
I do, personally.
Yeah, because slut is like, I mean, there's like fuckboy and then like slut is like female.
Because like you don't, I don't know, because there's not fuck girl.
You know, I feel like, like, if you were to, like, oh, like, you're a fuck girl.
It's like, oh, she's a slut.
Which is stupid.
I'm not saying like call anybody that, but, like, I feel like that's like the female word for fuckboy.
I think slut should be gender neutral.
Agreed.
That would be fair.
But like, that's what I feel like our word is.
Because like, fuck boys, fuck guys, and then yeah.
Okay.
But you hear you hear a lot of discussion about, I mean, there's even a TV show called Fuckboy Island.
Is it F-Boy Island, fuckboy island?
I don't know.
But you'd never see a show called Slut Swamp coming to AE or like Slut Savannah.
You'd never see that shit.
So I guess my question is, is why is it okay in today's day?
Like if you call a girl a slut as a guy, bro, watch out.
You're in trouble.
But I see women just throw fuckboy around willy-nilly.
Like that's just an insult.
So do you think there's a double standard there?
Yeah.
I do.
And I think because women have been being called sluts and all this for way, not for longer, but I think it's been a thing that's just been going on more outwardly and everyone just knows it happened.
So now it's like, okay, we're still putting a stop to this.
But I think why people are more comfortable doing it to men is because, like, you know, if we're being honest here, it hasn't been the even, it hasn't been the same.
We've definitely went through a lot more things negatively, I think I would say.
But I do think it's a double standard now.
I don't think it's a good idea.
Eric, can you turn the volume up to 70 on the computer?
Okay.
I think it is a double standard.
Wait, so hold on.
You said that, repeat it.
You said that it's a justified double standard because women have gone through a lot more.
I never said it was justified, I said...
What was your piece?
The reason I think the double standard exists is because women have, like, I don't want to say suffered, but, like, have suffered things from men.
From men.
From men.
Which men?
Men.
All men.
No, not all men.
Okay.
Some men.
But men as a collector.
Yes, in the past, even now.
In the past, even now.
More so in the past, yes.
Sure.
So now it's like.
Erroneous!
Erroneous.
No, it's kind of true, though.
But okay.
Yeah.
So I'm agreeing.
There is a double standard there.
Yeah, that's it.
Does anyone else want to come in on that?
I do.
I think that the double standard is definitely there, but like you were saying, it's for a reason that women have been slut-shamed for a lot less, for a lot more years, versus like men can have a lot of bodies.
And in a way, it's kind of within the culture.
Not saying it's right or wrong, but I think there's a culture of like praising men for that, especially like at a young age as well, which I think is a bit toxic in a way.
And so, you know, I think it's only fair that we start slut-shaming men just as much as we do women.
Like, if you guys still want to slut shame us, that's fine.
Just expect to be called whores as well.
You know, it's going to happen to you.
Well, it's a bit different.
It's a bit different.
So I don't know how much we want to get into the body count discussion, but the difference I would say is that it's very, for women, it's incredibly easy to get laid.
For men, that shit's hard.
For most men, it's tough.
Or if you even want to compare the average woman versus the average man, give me any woman, average, she can get laid that day.
You think the average man can do that?
I guess probably not.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Okay.
No, it's a lot harder for men.
So I will say, I think as females, and again, like, just what I'm thinking is females do, like, we are more emotionally open.
And I think we do tend to either catch feelings faster or want a connection sooner.
And so maybe that does have something to be like, like, oh, he's a whore because he didn't, like, I had feelings and he didn't have feelings back.
And so, like, now he's like a fuckboy, you know?
And so, like, like you said about, like, women being able to get laid sooner, but like men can't.
Well, maybe, like, it's because like women want that connection beforehand.
So like the men that are trying to shoot their shots and like, you're trying to fuck, like that same day, like you said, they can't because like women kind of like want to have like that connection beforehand.
That's but didn't you just say that chicks just want totally girls that just want to fuck around, fool around, totally?
30 minutes, they're ready to go.
Yeah, there's totally those chicks.
And then there's also totally those chicks that like be like, okay, well, like, let's, like, I want to, like, I'm just trying to figure out the right words.
There's girls that like want to like have like that love or like that flirt or that like something and like easily catch feelings.
Like I think it's valid to say that women catch feelings a lot faster than men.
So I feel like it's valid to be like, oh, well, like I caught feelings after a few times, like he doesn't.
Well, now he's a whore.
Does that make sense?
Am I phrasing it right?
Okay, cool.
I think that's something I said.
I feel like maybe that's why men get like the fuckboy title a lot faster because it's like, okay, we were fucking.
I caught feelings.
He's still out here fucking.
Like the original plan was, well, now he's a whore because he doesn't want me.
Does that make sense?
I feel like it does.
Okay.
In a way.
Yeah.
I don't think all women are very quick to add the whore, the fuckboy label in the world.
Not always.
Definitely not.
But that's why I think it's just so important to make sure like your intentions are super clear.
Yeah, total transparency.
Like it's like, I'm just, like, you're done fuck?
Cool, me too.
Like, straight as that.
But I do think it is common, or just like women, at least more than men, will catch feelings faster in those type of situations.
I just feel like men are kind of easy.
You know?
That's why women are able to have more sex because the opportunity is there.
Like, there's, I could probably go out onto the street and I don't even think I'm that cute, but I feel like it would not be hard for me to find somebody to bring back home versus like, I feel like if you're a guy, girls aren't just going to be easy like that for you.
Well, I mean, if you're George Clooney, I feel like you're going to get some if you walk out on the sidewalk.
But for the average man, it's a good idea.
He's like, his social status, he's a handsome guy, even at his age.
He's rich.
So an average guy.
Bro, he could, with concerted effort, it could take him weeks or months to get laid one time.
A lot of guys out, like, I guess I could ask this.
What percentage of men do you guys think are like regularly hooking up?
Actually, let me rephrase the question.
Who do you think is having more sex?
Men or women?
Start here.
It really depends.
I have to say, like, it just is so general question, like, men or women.
I mean, it just depends on what kind of men and what kind of women.
But generally speaking, who do you think is having more sex, men or women?
I think men.
You think men are having more sex?
Okay, we'll go around.
Go ahead.
I think women, to be honest.
Women are having more sex?
Yeah.
Sorry, guys, we got the motorcycle passing by.
I think men.
Men are having more sex, Sydney.
I kind of think men.
I think it used to be men, but now I could see it being women.
It's for sure women.
It's definitely women that are fucking more.
Because what you have happening with dating apps, social media, the marketplace is globalized.
The dating marketplace is globalized.
So y'all have some crazy options.
Because back in the day before social media came around, your pool of potential partners was in your city, your social circle.
Now you can swipe.
There's 100 guys.
There's 100 guys in your DM.
Even the average women will get fair amount of attention.
So also they've done some studies on this.
Eric, actually, if you can pull up an infographic, we'll just pull it up super quick.
It's not pulled up, so you're going to have to bring it back to me, but you'll have to go into the folder.
Let me know when you're in the podcast folder.
It's in the infographics.
Let me know when you're there.
Sorry, guys, hold on.
We're pulling up an infographic.
Oh, you're going to have to move that.
Move it over to the other screen so you can see it.
Sorry, guys, we're pulling this up.
Okay.
So you're going to go into the podcast folder, the infographics folder.
There's nothing in the podcast.
Oh, I see.
Let me know when you're there.
Yeah.
Okay, so it's men.
the title of it is Men Less Sex, and pull it over to, it's going to be hard to get it.
I don't know if we're going to be able to display it.
You're going to want to go out of F11, probably on the other screen.
Move it next to the Leonardo DiCaprio one.
Sorry, guys.
We are doing it live.
It's going to be pulled up here in just a sec, guys.
Let me know when you have it, Eric.
move it over and just bring it up it's very hot Very hot.
It's been very hot, by the way, guys, in California.
Do you have it?
Yeah.
Okay, pull it.
Go F11, please.
All right, zoom out just a bit, or control mouse wheel.
Yeah.
Okay, so up one more.
A little bigger.
There.
So this is from the Washington Post.
This is from a couple years ago.
Young men driving the decline in sex.
Share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year.
Up until 2008, it was fairly even.
Maybe men were edging out.
No, actually, men even before then were reporting sexlessness.
So this is between the ages of 18 and 30 that are either virgins or have had no sex in the past year.
28% of men, 18% of women, and this is 2018.
So I'm assuming that gap has increased probably by at least five or ten points.
So men are hurting.
They're hurting.
You can bring it back, Eric.
You can bring it back.
So basically, what you have happening is there's the few men, not the few men, but the proportion of men at the very top, the top 10, 20% of men, that are just running through chicks.
And then the rest are getting nothing.
And so you got a lot of women out there that are Eskimo sisters that are just sleeping with the same guys.
Because you guys want the best guy, right?
We have standards.
Yeah, women have standards.
Men are slacking in that regard.
So, yeah, a lot of men are just, it's tough for them.
They're not getting any.
So rip.
Rip to the men.
Okay.
I want to do a couple super chats really quick.
And we'll get back to the show.
By the way, guys, don't forget to like the video.
And all super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
$10 and up, guys.
Okay, we got, let's see here.
Riley Brock with the $5 soup chat.
Thank you, Riley.
They're in searching for younger.
Just in general, younger women are more attractive and they're going after what they're attracted to.
By the way, guys, just a reminder: $10 and up on the super chats.
Devon Jackson with the $10 soup chat, if a 6'4 Chad says it, then yeah, for the average guys, they just want him to be honest so they can disqualify him quicker.
So this goes back to what we were talking about with the guys not really being able to be honest or upfront with their intentions.
So, yeah, most guys can't be upfront.
We got Elder Scrolls 333.
Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Did we get one from Mike Davis?
I thought it.
Is Mike.
Okay, I maybe mistook that I saw something from him.
Hey, Elder Scrolls, thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
Much appreciated.
Human female biology at an unconscious level tells women to disregard men lacking subtlety.
An example: if he approaches too directly, chances are poor for him, even if it's for a relationship, not just sex.
Do you guys want to respond to that?
Just be smooth with it.
That's all.
That's convenient.
Just be smooth.
I think being upfront is hot.
Honestly, like, if you're bold with it and you know what you want and you come up to me, like, I've done it.
But, like, if you are just like, hey, I find you really attractive.
Like, can I get your number?
Let's go out sometime.
Your odds are so much better.
Confidence is key.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, even if you're like, I don't know.
Like, if you're not, like, usually like the average guy I'd go for, if that's like how you shoot your shot, I feel like your chances are much higher.
I will agree to an extent because there's a lot of times where like a guy will approach me, great job, like asking me for my number and stuff, but I'm not going to reply.
Like at the end of the day, it's up to if the girl is feeling you back.
But still, shoot your shot.
Like you never know.
I would say you got like a 65% chance.
65 is a good statistic, I would say.
Me.
Thoughts?
On what?
On like the previous question?
Never mind.
Okay, so we'll move on.
So you said, just be, you said, what was it?
Be confident?
Just be confident.
Be smooth.
Okay.
Do you think it's easy for guys to be smooth?
No, but I think you can learn.
And I think getting rejected will help you because how you take rejection will really determine whether or not we leave a good interaction.
Like if you could take the rejection well, I honestly will find you more attractive after that because I feel like so many men can't hear no without getting their feelings hurt.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
There's definitely guys that when the girl rejects them, gets all salty about it.
Oh, you're ugly anyways.
You know, blah, blah, blah, all this shit.
That's weird.
It is.
That's weird, guys.
Don't do that.
Like, take it in stride.
But I will say that I mean, if a girl rejects you, even if you take it in stride, it's probably a rap, I think.
Yeah, don't worry about it.
For the most part, like, yeah, it's pretty much a wrap.
Like, it's the likelihood that even if you do take it in stride, that she's going to be like, oh, wow, he took that well.
Let me reconsider.
Although I do think there are some girls that are like, will be like, I don't know, have any of you ever had a situation where you turned down a guy or you friend zoned him and he was like, yeah, you know what?
I agree.
We should be friends.
And you're like, hold on.
No.
They try to act like they initiated the not being more than friends.
No, but they, like, let's say you rejected a guy, but he just stopped pursuing you.
Were any of you ever like, he should have pursued me more?
I mean, uh, if you just like, if you have like feelings for him before, and maybe it's just like one step away and he gave up, maybe you will think, like, oh, he just, he needs to do like one more step and then we'll just accept it.
But if you just don't have any feeling before, and it's just like, it's fine, you gave up, because we won't like work anything out, even though you do like 99 steps.
Yeah.
Um, no, I wouldn't say that's happened to me, but like going back to like the whole after a guy gets rejected, like the could there be more?
I think there could be if they take it well, um, and if they're willing to like pursue a friendship, because I think like a lot of great relationships are built on friendship, but if they take it horribly, and yeah, no, that's just not cutting it.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever been like, oh, if they just kept trying.
Kind of, because like if it were meant to be, like, or if he really wanted to really press his issue, he would have.
So I'm like, okay, if he's not, then that's whatever.
Yeah, I'm not really kind of like that.
Like, it's like, if I'm not feeling it from the beginning, the odds of me, like, not feeling it are going to continue.
Like, maybe, like, down the road, a few months, maybe.
That's why, like, I feel like you always end it on a good note.
You don't be like, okay, well, fuck you.
But no.
I just feel like how it depends on how the interaction went.
Like, if I was like, maybe I'm just not looking for anything right now, then you could try again at a later point.
But if it's like a flat out no, I'm not interested, I wouldn't try.
Rock and roll.
Okay.
So you mentioned smooth.
The guy should just be smooth.
One of you mentioned just be confident, I think.
So are any of you down to do a role reversal?
So I'll be the chick, and one of you tries to pick me up as the dude.
Okay, too.
Is any of you down?
Jackie, I know you're dying to do this scene.
I'm down.
Okay, we'll start with Jackie.
Okay.
Can you set the scene?
At a bar.
You're the man.
You have to pick the scenario.
You're going to set the scene.
Oh.
No, like, where are we?
You're at a house.
You get to pick.
You get to pick.
She's waiting for a drink at the bar.
You're welcome.
She's waiting for a drink at the bar.
Lovely red.
My name is Brianna, by the way.
Brianna.
Well, I guess I'll.
Oh, I should have said that.
No, I didn't even need you.
Whatever.
Okay.
Ready?
No, no, no, no.
That's it?
We're at the bar?
Yes.
At the bar.
What kind of music?
Set the scene.
Okay, so it's like Wildcat backstage kind of situation.
It's like low-key empty.
Lights are dim.
Like, she's waiting for a drink.
Ready?
Oh, she's, go.
Hey, can I get you a drink?
Okay.
Okay, what do you want?
Sex in the city.
Sex in the city?
Can we get a sex in the city for the beautiful lady here?
Yes, of course.
Thank you.
So what's your name?
Brianna.
Brianna, I'm Jackie.
It's so nice to meet you.
I was looking at you from over there and I thought you were so beautiful with those blue eyes.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
Here goes your drink.
The drink.
So what are you doing later tonight?
Are you going to be here or?
Just with my girls.
With your girls?
Okay.
Are they on the dance floor or what's up?
Oh, you know, we're just getting turnt.
Getting turnt.
Okay.
Well, I'm with my guys.
Maybe we could hang out a little bit, dance together on the dance floor.
But if you're not doing anything later, I would love to get your number.
I don't know if I'm comfortable with that.
I just met you.
That's okay.
I understand.
You can have my Instagram, though.
Okay, sure.
Here, follow me.
Okay, well, it was great meeting you.
I hope I run into you later.
Bye.
Have a good night.
Hey, if you weren't feeling it, you weren't feeling it.
And I'm going to leave the situation.
Enjoy your drink.
Hey, that's good.
No, I mean, that's good, though.
You didn't push it.
That was effective.
Yeah, that was quite good.
You were quick to take that drink.
You were like, yes.
Absolutely.
And you gave the Instagram.
You pulled in and out of this before.
I thought he was just like, you can follow me, though.
Okay, who does anybody else want to try?
I'm not going to lie.
How about Sydney?
Yeah, Sydney, because you've talked about how you initiate with guys, allegedly.
Yeah, I do.
Allegedly.
I've done it.
It worked out for me.
How have you initiated with a guy before?
Like, articulate specifically what you did.
Oh, he's probably watching this too, which is interesting.
So, okay, so essentially, I go to the gym a lot, and I'm in there daily.
I've never seen this man before.
He walks in, immediately, like, turns my head.
You're at the gym.
You can't, like, say anything to the guy.
So I was like, oh, like, okay, that sucks.
Whatever.
I got to go.
So I left.
I was like, never going to see him again.
I go to Rockfire and I'm like with my girl and we're leaving early and I see him in line.
He was really good looking and I was like, crap, like, okay, I have to.
And I'm like shaking a little bit, but I like went up to him and he's with some of his guy friends.
I was like, hey, I think you're really handsome.
Like, saw you at the gym today.
Like, didn't want to ask for it there.
Like, can I get your number, take you out for drinks sometime?
Put my number in his phone, like, got his name, shook his hand, left.
I never heard from him until like maybe three weeks later.
I went to backstage and we went out with my girls and like he was there.
Wait, you didn't hear from him then?
I didn't hear from him at all.
He was just there.
He was just there backstage.
And then we ended up leaving, and something kind of like went down with my girl.
Well, my girl was there and I was gone.
And so he texted me then.
He's like, hey, like, your girl might need some help.
And so I went back and then we like text a little bit later that night.
He's like, so when are we going to hang?
I was like, oh, yeah, I'll let you know.
And then my dumbass never responded back.
So he kind of like initiated hanging out again.
And I never responded because I realized that we like worked together.
So I didn't want to mix the whole like work romance situation.
Sorry guys, motorcycle.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so that was your one pickup.
That was like one of mine.
And then I kind of like.
Sounds like a failure.
It's not absolutely cool because I kind of bit the bullet again.
And I was like, hey, like I texted him a few weeks later.
I was like, hey, I know we work together, but like I would still like to take you out for drinks sometime if you're down.
Ashley Bell says, Sydney got game.
I can feel it.
Thanks.
I could see that.
I could see that.
But why don't we try?
It worked out.
I mean, we've been texting a little bit, but I don't know if it's like, it's just texting, you know?
By the way, guys, can you hear Sydney?
What about?
I don't know, the microphone might be.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay, so, all right, Sydney, paint the scenario.
You can be DMing me.
You could be a scene.
You guys are at the gym.
Oh, you can't.
Okay.
You guys are at the gym.
Dude, that's going to be rough for us.
You can't do that.
Come on.
You know you can't do that.
At the gym, you can't pick people up at the gym.
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
You're on campus, yes, you can.
How about that?
I won't do the gym.
Fine.
Okay, how about this?
You guys are on campus.
You're walking to class and you spot Brianna.
Brianna.
And you have time to spare.
Like, you're early.
You have 30 minutes until class starts.
What's up, Brianna?
Okay.
Okay.
I just like walk up behind you.
Okay.
Hey.
Which way are you headed?
Huh?
Hi, I'm Sydney.
I'm Mark.
What's your name?
Brianna.
Are you headed to East Campus?
What?
Yeah, what?
Hawaii.
Well, I'm headed that way too.
And I just like, I saw you a little bit away, and I was wondering if you'd like to get coffee before class or maybe after.
I'm kind of in a rush.
I got to go to class.
Okay, great.
No worries.
Maybe I could just give you my number.
Text me if you're free afterwards.
Coffee on me.
Here's my Instagram: Biana, BriannaBangsLot69.
Okay, great.
Yeah, just follow me.
Yeah, we'll do.
Text me if you're interested.
Okay.
All right.
Have a good one.
Hope you have a good day.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
See, you were a little shut down, but like.
Bro, that's how it is, though.
That's how it is.
If they're not interested, yes.
But like, you have, like, sometimes you get those type of girls and you can't pursue forever.
But, like, I mean, it's a free coffee.
Most of these Kylie girls don't turn down a free coffee, I've learned.
Okay.
Did you want to do it?
I did.
I feel like I'm pull women, so I feel like she should be a bit of a double-blood.
Okay, but she's by.
All right, set the scene.
What is it?
We could be literally anywhere.
So we'll be at 7-Eleven for convenience.
Pumping gas?
Hey, girl, how are you doing?
Oh, no.
I really like that shirt on you.
It really brings out your eyes.
You know, the blue in them.
Oh, thank you.
I should be careful.
Don't want to get lost.
You know, in them?
Huh?
Right?
Anyways, since we're out here at the beach town or whatever, I was looking for somebody to come with.
It's hot outside.
I bet you'd look good in a bikini.
Excuse me?
Yeah.
You think I?
I do think you'd look great in a bikini.
All bodies are beautiful.
I'm all about it.
Are you down to pay for my gas?
Look, bestie.
I'm not here for no sugar daddy shit.
Dusty.
You said bestie.
Oh, I thought you said dusty.
No, but I'll get you an 805.
Okay.
All right, let's go then.
And we go.
He said, okay.
She said okay.
I don't even know your name, Brianna.
That was a fun name.
That was ballsy.
I low-key feel like I'd also get murdered a little bit if I went with you, but that was ballsy.
Okay, I want to open it up to the girls.
What do the girls think of the girls' pickup?
I think for.
Do they do a good job?
I mean, like, for Jackie and Sydney, if a guy like come up with, you know, like just talk to me like that, it's just comfortable.
Like, it's okay.
And I won't, you know, it's just reasonable.
Because once you show you're not interested, they're like, oh, I'm out.
Have a good time.
And for Claudia.
Claudia?
Yeah.
It's also fine, but maybe I'm just going to get a little panic with all those, you know, compliments and stuff.
I'm like, okay, I just met this guy.
Why he complimented me like that?
At the gas station.
Yeah.
I probably think he's a little weird, but it's all like totally fine.
But if a probably it's because you're a girl, but if a man like talk to me like with all those gestures and like, uh, you know, I just scares me, kind of.
So keep it simple.
Yeah, just keep a compliment.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
We have a comment here from Junior Soprano.
Junior Soprano, the boss of the D'Amio Crime family in New Jersey.
These girls never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Girls' response?
Never had the.
What does that even mean?
What are the makings?
Do you have a response to Mr. Soprano?
I mean, like, as far as athlete-wise, like Jackie mentioned that she does training.
I used to bodybuild.
I did track.
Yeah.
I played basketball and Ran Trek.
Yeah.
Okay.
There you go.
American Network Against Slave Place to All Avium Matter.
There you go.
We have a Stephen Stiffler here in the chat.
Ask the ladies to rate themselves on scale of 1 to 10.
That's brutal.
Okay, let's do that.
I will rate myself 5.5 out of 10.
Yeah.
5.5.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is this overall or just like physically?
Looks.
Oh, okay.
I think I'm a smooth nine.
Smooth nine?
Okay.
Eight.
Ten.
Bruv.
Be eight as well.
Okay.
Don't go.
Kiki, you're a ten.
No, I'm just Kiki.
Cara.
Yeah, I'm Cara.
Yeah, definitely not.
Kiki's the only 10 here.
No offense, Sydney.
None taken.
No offense, Sydney, but Kiki's the only one that can claim 10.
Okay, fair enough.
Why, why?
I know, Sydney, we've gone over this before.
Don't do it again, then.
Why are you a 10?
Because it's just, it's like for me, like, I in my confidence, like, obviously, there's a stage where I'm not like that, but like, that's that's like my opinion.
Like, no one else needs an opinion or needs to rate me.
So, like, why would I like be like, oh, I'm an eight, and then give somebody else the opportunity to be like, no, she's actually, like, a six.
Like, I'm going to just say I'm a 10.
I'm going to leave it at that.
Obviously, comments can say shit, but like, there's no need.
Okay.
So, I'm not going to go into the 10th.
Okay.
I'm not going to go into it.
Well, thank you, Stephen Stiffler, for that insightful question for the panel.
Let's see.
Okay, so we were talking about Leonardo DiCaprio.
I kind of want to bring it back there.
Just for people who are tuning in, Eric, if you can just pull up that infographic one more time.
Thank you, sir.
So, if you're just tuning in, we were talking a bit about Leonardo DiCaprio.
If you don't know, a couple, I think the past week he broke up with his most recent girlfriend.
This is an infographic showing his age and then the age of his partners over time.
Just broke up with Camilla.
So, I want to bring it back to the age gap discussion for a little bit here.
So, it seemed like there's a bit of pushback on age gaps.
And specifically with men dating younger women.
So, why do you guys think it's like wrong, or why do you take issue with like an older guy dating a younger woman?
And, Eric, you can bring it on back.
We'll start with you.
I'm sorry.
I didn't hear the question.
I'm sorry.
I was wondering what.
Sorry, my brain blinks a lot.
I just blink everywhere.
Don't worry about it.
So, do you take like why do you?
I don't know if it might not have even been you, but why do you take issue with age gaps?
Have we like, I think we talked about this topic before?
Did we go into why, though?
Briefly, but not in depth.
Okay.
Okay.
I think I personally don't have an issue with older women dating younger men or older men dating younger women.
It was the Leonardo DiCaprio situation in particular where it was becoming a trend.
That's why I said it was weird, not because he was a man that was older instead of a woman.
But yeah, I think it's just the fact that he was doing it over and over and over again.
That's what made it weird.
I think the trend is slightly odd.
The only I don't really have an issue with it.
Like the whole Nick and Priyanka thing, like they're 10 years apart, they're happy.
My only like slight issue is kind of like where it comes to like a comment that like you know Andrew Tate made about like oh I like them young I like them untouched when it comes to like like right out of high school or slightly young or like slightly where it's like almost like grooming then that's where it's an issue.
But if they're like genuinely happy and they're on the same page, whatever floats your boat.
The issue I have with older men and women, not just men, dating younger people is that I feel, and it's a pattern, like it's not just like a one-time thing, like they're constantly searching for someone younger, is that it seems like let me be careful here.
I've seen people say that a lot of older people will look for younger people because they are more like naive in the dating world and they don't understand a lot of like the games that are played.
So that's my issue.
I feel like, but yeah, I'm just going to leave it at that.
Taken advantage of.
So you think it's a predatory thing or what?
I wouldn't go as far as calling it predatory.
I mean, not for every single person.
There are some, of course, but I would say like the older people can be maybe a bit lazy when it comes to dating because they don't want to put in the work, the effort that it would to that it would take to charm someone their age who is more seasoned in the dating game.
They know like, okay, like I know what you're doing, all that type of stuff.
Whereas a younger person who hasn't dated as many people, hasn't been with as many people, they are still learning.
Like there's a lot of growth that needs to happen.
That should happen.
That can't happen.
But could you make the argument that let's say if we compare men aged 21 and women who are 21, couldn't you make the argument that by the time both people are that age, that actually women have gotten much more experience when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex than have men?
I think it's definitely dependent on the circumstances.
I wouldn't say that.
I mean, I would say women probably have been approached more and have had more suitors.
That's what I mean.
Like, so a woman who's 21 has, by the time she's 21, has probably been bombarded like DMs, dating apps, guys approaching her in the street.
So you could actually make the argument that younger women at an earlier age become much more savvy as to the social maneuvering that's involved with dating.
Because y'all deal with more men than do men deal with women for the most part.
I would agree.
Yeah, no, I would agree with that.
But I feel like when it comes to older people seeking relationships with these people, and this is in the case that the younger people agree, I just think it's a bit odd that they're doing that.
Because yes, women have been approached by men more, but as far as going into a full-on relationship, that's where it varies, I would say.
I think it kind of ties into the jokes.
Like in high school, like, oh, the senior got with the freshman girl, you know?
Okay, I mean, that's a bit like those.
Those are like underage relationships.
Right, but just like the jokes about like the freshman girl thinking that like he's all that and then like he's just like playing games.
Like it's just those type of like those like little jokes, like it's type shit like that.
I mean just on the topic of it being kind of predatory, I mean couldn't you also make the argument that Leonard DiCaprio is so high status, so financially well off, that couldn't it be said that it might actually be predatory of women to be going after him?
Because if they associate with Leonardo DiCaprio, what do they have to gain from it?
Yeah, it absolutely could be.
Could potentially get jobs from that status.
They're going to be in the tabloids.
She's probably going to rack up a bunch of social media followers.
So could be predatory in the reverse.
And we don't know both sides.
You know, we're just only looking at the one side of like only 25-year-olds.
Like, no doubt there's clout chasers out there who are just going after men with money, women with money, whoever.
But I don't know.
It's sticky.
Wait, but you said going after women with money.
Do you think that there are men that are clout chasing?
Sugar mamas.
There's no sugar mamas.
Yes.
You're saying there's none.
I'm not saying that there's none, but it's so exceedingly rare compared to sugar daddies.
Yeah, the percentage is probably a lot lower.
It's probably like 99 sugar daddies for one sugar mama.
That's a reach.
It's rough.
It's because when women get older, our attraction to younger men starts to fade.
So we are more relative in terms of who we find attractive in age.
So I think that's where it gets weird because it's like, for me, I'm like, if you're a guy who's consistently dating girls who are like 25 and younger, I kind of feel like, you know, you couldn't fall in love with a woman just because she was 30.
Like the love of your life comes up to you.
She's like the most beautiful woman ever in your eyes.
Everything is perfect except for her age.
She's 30.
Like you're going to tell me Leo's really not about to date her.
And from what we've seen, like that seems to be the case.
And I'm sure he has plenty of like fine women over 25 throwing themselves at him.
Sophia Vergar, you're going to tell her no.
I wouldn't.
Maybe he doesn't.
Sophia, is she an actress?
She was in Modern Family.
She's so beautiful.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Sophia?
Dude, you're missing out.
She's fine.
I'll take your word for it.
She's beautiful.
So she's older, though.
Yeah, she's older now.
Okay.
This time works.
I mean, maybe it's like a body count thing.
Maybe he wants to date younger women because they have a lower body count.
But that's weird.
Like, are you judging your own body count?
Because on that, he's had so many bodies as well.
Oh, he's probably ran through.
So long as they're like clean.
Triple digits on Leo.
I wonder if Leo's a thout, like, quad digits.
No.
Could be.
He's been.
No fans blood dating.
I know.
That's wild.
That's what I'm saying.
They're sluts to each other.
But I mean, it's not like women his age would be any more likely to love him for him instead of his wealth and status than a younger woman.
His wealth and status comes with it regardless.
That's part of the package.
So whether he's dating like 20-year-olds or he's dating 40-year-olds, like his status isn't going anywhere.
So he can pull just about anyone he wants to if it's going in this range.
Okay, but like his status isn't going anywhere.
And it's not like it's a secret.
Like everybody knows his status.
Like everybody's seen his movies.
You can't escape that.
Right.
I guess my whole thing with the Leo thing is one, maybe it's just his preference to date younger women.
I've seen like a lot of articles calling him weird, creep, predator, just people talking about it online.
And I feel like these news organizations that are reporting on the breakup and kind of alluding to him being creep or whatever it is.
I highly doubt that they would run these same articles if it was an older actress dating like a young guy.
And you brought up Priyanka, right?
The example.
They're 10 years old.
I have a few examples I wanted to bring up here.
So I'm going to give you guys a couple examples here, and if you want, you can react.
So Demi Moore was 41 when she, or Demi Moore was 41 and she was dating Ashton Kutcher.
He was 25.
That's a 16-year age gap.
Brittany Spears is 40, married to a 28-year-old, but she met him six years ago.
So when they met, she was 34 and he was 22.
12-year age gap.
Olivia Wilde, 38, dating Harry Styles, who's 28, 10-year age gap.
Priyanka Chopra, Nick Jonas, 10 years ago.
Are these all women that are older?
These are women who are older.
Lisa Benet and Jason Momoa, 12-year age gap, 38 versus 26.
Miranda Kerr and Evan Spiegel, 32 versus 25.
Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson, 41 to his 28.
So, I don't know.
I can't imagine, like, I've never seen any articles coming out about how, oh, Kim K, Pete Davidson.
Probably the biggest one is the Britney Spears one.
She was 34 and he was 22.
I think that's probably like...
It's a little odd.
And then Demi Moore, 41, Ashton Kutcher, 25.
So, I don't know.
You'd never see these articles written about shaming them, the uproar.
Brian.
Could I ask you guys a question?
Have you ever been with someone who's older?
Like a significant agenda?
That's a good question.
I have.
No.
I have.
Yeah.
So we'll go around the table.
You have.
What's the oldest guy you've dated or sugar daddy situation?
He was my, basically, like my first boyfriend.
And I, yeah.
He was, I think, seven or eight years older than me.
How old were you?
I was 17.
And now I'm 18.
So like basically a year ago when I first got here.
Yeah.
And so, okay, and he was 25?
Around 25, 24, 25, something.
Yeah.
Wait, this was in the U.S.?
Yeah.
And you were 17?
Yeah, we were going to fight him.
Yeah.
Yikes.
That guy's fucking up.
Did you lie about your age or he knew?
What?
He knew how old you were?
Or did you lie about your age?
He knew.
Okay, that's a yikes.
That's a yikes from me, dude.
Yeah.
Because I was going to say, I don't know what the age of consent in China is.
Maybe it's different there.
I don't know.
I mean, like, it's weird.
So, like, in America, so people can't date like under 18 or something.
Where I'm from, it's 16.
I guess it depends on the state.
I didn't know that until I came to California, and everyone looked at me like I was a freaking weirdo.
But, like, why?
Because you were dating a bunch of people.
No, no, because I made like, I was, like, with some of my friends, and I was just like, oh, as long as she's like 16, you're good.
And they looked at me like I was psycho.
And I, because I genuinely didn't know that in each state, the age of consent is different.
I didn't either.
So maybe, like, maybe Reno's just crazy.
But.
Okay.
Well, it is different.
Yeah, because there's also like legal prostitution and stuff in Nevada.
So it's different.
Okay.
Your turn?
I have not been with someone with an age gap.
Okay.
So around your age for the most part.
Okay.
Yeah.
Same.
Sydney?
I have, but I have no comment on it.
How much was the gap?
I have no comment.
Was it the sugar daddy?
No.
Seeking arrangements?
No.
I haven't done that.
I have like.
20 years old?
I have no comment on it.
Okay.
Above.
I have no comment on that.
I have housemates that are sugar babies, and they're killing it.
They're killing the game.
For those guys.
Okay.
And you?
Yeah.
So this one, the most current one, it's like 13 years now.
But it started, I'm 21.
It started when I was 21.
So I felt like that was okay.
It's my first.
Is it a woman or a guy?
It's a guy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
So I feel like maybe that puts a little bit of a different perspective on it because I'm the same age gap as Brittany.
And the fact that he's like 22, I feel like that makes it fine because there's a big difference to me in 18 and 21.
Yeah.
I feel like a lot of people will see that, especially like in a college town.
So like I felt like with him that I'm mature enough and like I know what I want and I don't feel like I can be easily manipulated so that I feel comfortable doing it and like I can put my foot down when I need.
But I felt like at 18, I wouldn't have the same skills that I have now to be able to like not be in a bad position like that.
Kiki, what do you think?
Okay, that was very insightful, Kiki.
Yeah, so I mean, I don't know.
It seems like for men, a lot of men, if you ask them, they'd say their preference is to date younger women.
Not all of them can.
But I think if you ask most men, the age range that they find most attractive is probably between 18 and 25.
You disagree?
No, it's just sad.
Why is it sad?
Because I feel like there's so much beauty in older women.
Like everybody loves, not to be too offensive, but everybody loves a MILF.
Like just older women are so beautiful.
A MILF?
Yeah.
I mean, most guys actually have a preference.
I mean, look at the frat guys.
I live next to a frat house and they're always talking about like, oh, yeah, moths.
Maybe not, but like, oh, yeah, bro, your mom's hot.
Just like, yeah, bro.
Like, older women's dad.
I mean, most men, like, as far as the MILF thing, most men don't want to date women with children.
They don't want to date single mothers.
I understand because that's kind of like a package deal.
And that's like you're not going to be able to do that.
I can speak for myself.
I don't want to date.
Right, because you're not just dating her.
You're dating her.
Like, her kids are involved.
Okay.
No, but like, her kids are involved.
Like, she may have to cancel dates if she's going on a kid, like, with a kid.
Like, you know, like there's stuff.
What if the kid's in college?
Does that change things?
If the kid's not at home at all.
Oh, so you're talking like 50s.
Maybe she was a young mom.
Maybe she's in her 40s.
I mean, it's still like, it's still, she's old.
Yeah.
She's just kind of old.
I mean, look, I dated a woman who's 45.
She didn't have any kids, though.
So there's that.
She's babe status.
But generally speaking, like for me, and I think for a lot of guys, 18 to 25 is what we, in terms of what we find physically attractive, is like the peak range.
I know it's your biology, but I'm judging you.
It is the biology.
I'm judging.
No, I mean, but see, this is the thing is guys are not allowed to have standards, preferences, or boundaries.
Like, heaven forbid, right?
A man find a woman who is at her peak physical attractiveness attractive.
If we, I'm not, we're not going to pull it up, but if we pulled up like a 19-year-old baddie who's fucking stacked, you're going to tell me, Brian, you shouldn't be attracted to her and find her attractive.
Come on.
And you're bi too.
You wouldn't find like an, well, you're 21.
21, yeah.
Okay.
So, I mean, I specifically don't date.
I guess you're allowed to find, you're within the acceptable age range.
You can find a 19-year-old baddie.
Oh, you don't date younger women?
I don't.
I don't.
I won't.
You prefer older women.
Because it just feels like, especially now that I'm 21, like, I'll do 20, but like 19 and 18, like, you just graduated from high school.
What do we have in common?
Like I feel like I'm you're looking for something different.
I'm looking for something different and I especially don't want to be your first time.
I mean I'm okay.
Here goes we're going into the next one.
Men value sexual purity in women.
So if they're virgin, like for most men, that's a pro.
That's not a con.
Which is also weird.
Don't you want them to be like good at sex?
Do I want them to be good at sex?
Like imagine if women thought that same way and were chasing after men who are virgins.
Like he would never put it down right.
Yeah, but it's see, but for honestly, it's not that hard for a woman to be good in bed.
Especially if the guy, if you're more dominant and you lead in the bedroom.
But then you shame us that we're pillow princesses.
Make up your minds, men.
I mean, but here's the thing.
Like you can teach a girl.
But most women, though, would have serious issue like, oh, I have to teach a guy.
I have to show a guy how to fuck me.
Most girls want guys to come pre-assembled.
They want guys to just get it.
They don't want to have to teach a guy.
Now, some women will be fine with that.
They'll show a guy.
And maybe they're a bit more on the dominant side.
But I mean, most men, like if you know what you're doing, you can teach the girl.
You can give me a virgin.
I'll teach her exactly.
I'll make her good in bed.
Boom.
Problem solved.
You guys want to come in on this?
Go ahead.
Yes, please.
Oh, no.
I want to hear you.
Actually, before you come in, so you said, like, oh, you, as a guy, you'd have nothing in common with someone who's younger.
Or also, a woman would have, an older woman would have very little in common with someone who's younger.
If it was a cougar, for example.
I just meant like even me being 21 and that person being 18, like that would be such a limit to what we can do together.
And then also just in terms of what we've been through in life, like genuinely you just graduated from high school.
I don't know how else to put that.
It's just like would be weird for me to date somebody who just got out of high school.
Hey, maybe it's like they're in their first year of college.
Good for them.
Do well and date someone else who's in their first year of college.
But this whole like commonality thing, I hear this one a lot.
So let me ask you guys a question.
Have you ever had a ton in common, had a ton in common with someone and you've just simultaneously not been attracted to them?
Yes.
Yeah.
That's a friend.
Right.
You're not attracted to them, but you have a lot in common with them.
Right.
But so commonality then is not the key determining factor in who you find physically attractive and who you want in a partner.
Yeah.
Wait, are you disagreeing or?
No, I mean, yeah.
Right.
So, I mean, you've probably met, also, you've probably met people that you have great conversational flow with of the opposite sex.
Conversation's great.
You're just not attracted to them.
Have you had that experience?
And they're friends, right?
So, I don't know, to me, like, I don't need a girl to have the same weird taste in 90s music that I do.
I don't care about that.
You know?
So, you know, I don't, for me, then again, like, the type of woman I like, she doesn't need to, like, come with the witty banter.
I don't care.
If she has it, great.
I don't care.
Like, there's things that are more important to me than being able to relate on movies and TV shows and that shit.
Can I ask you what's more important to you?
What do you mean, what's more important to me?
What's more important to you than witty conversations and relating to movies?
Out of curiosity.
Okay, so just on the topic of, I mean, we could even go into like talk about types with each other, but just specifically conversationally, like, I don't need a girl that's like super fucking witty.
I don't care.
I don't need a girl that's funny.
I don't care.
That is like so low on the totem pole for me for what I want in a woman.
It doesn't matter.
I want a girl.
This is good.
I like this.
I want to hear this.
Because you've mentioned before that you don't like statistics about like guys don't want a funny girl.
So I'm kind of curious now.
Yes.
What do men look like?
So, okay, well, I'll say this.
So I'm definitely more introverted.
I'd say for the most part, I'm a fairly soft-spoken individual for the most part.
So I want that in a partner.
I want a girl who's kind of introverted, who's a bit shy.
You don't want the opposite to balance it out?
No.
I don't want like a loud, obnoxious, boisterous woman.
No offense to those of you out there.
None taken.
But okay.
No, I mean, I like kind of quiet, mellow, calming, relaxing chicks.
I don't.
That's me, though.
Demure is a good one.
That's demure.
I like demure women.
It's like moist.
I've heard that moist complaint from a lot of women, though.
For some reason, that seems to really bother y'all.
Okay, so where were we going?
I guess you had.
It's just strange because as a woman, like, I really want a funny partner.
Like, in fact, that's such a huge plus for me if you can make me laugh and hold a conversation.
I think, you know, looks is something, but I've definitely lowered my standards in terms of like looks when it comes to personality.
Like personality has added so much to a man, like more than his height, whatever.
I want a boring chick.
Oh, my goodness.
I don't want a chick that's going to take me on adventures and that's exciting.
I just want like a mellow chick.
Something stable.
You want a homebody.
You may need a cougar that's like ready to like stay home and like chill and like do some stuff.
Like that sounds like that might be good for you.
Like she's done her adventuring.
She's done her wild party today.
She's run through that.
She's ready to go to bed at 7 p.m.
Like no, I stay up late, but I don't, I mean, just speaking specifically about that.
But that might be up your alley.
If she, she's tapped out, she's done by like 8 p.m.
Like she's ready to chill.
That might be for you.
Perhaps.
Okay.
Perhaps, but I mean, so, okay, I don't really drink occasionally from time to time.
But if I do, it's one or two drinks, Max.
A glass of wine, a beer.
That's it.
I don't go to bars.
I don't go to clubs.
I don't party.
I would rather, and I've said this before, I'd rather masturbate with sandpaper than go to a bar or club.
And so I'd want a similarity there in terms of a partner.
I don't want a girl that's up in the club, up in the bar.
Even if she goes without you?
That's a deal breaker for me.
Really?
I don't want to date a girl that parties like that.
Like at all if she goes with that?
I'll hook up with a girl that, if she's a party girl, I'll hook up with her, but I'll never take her serious.
Interesting.
So my standard for like for being in a relationship with a girl is like she can't go to bars and clubs.
Not even with like a group of girls.
And you know these women and trust them.
It kind of depends.
Like if it's maybe two or three times a year, it's just like a birthday party.
That's a bit different.
But if like if she wants to go out every weekend partying, drinking every weekend, because there's definitely, I'm sure you guys know, like Santa Barbara, a lot of people drink.
I think everyone in this town is an alcoholic.
People party a lot.
People drink a lot.
And yeah, I don't want a girl that's out at the bars and clubs on a weekend.
To each their own.
I'm like, there's definitely those girls out here.
I know you want to come in on this.
Come on.
I just, I'm just listening.
I think it's interesting what you have to say.
The whole like not her being able to go out to the bars and clubs like period or two times, two, three times a year.
It depends.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, even on special occasions.
Like, I see what you're saying.
Like, I get it.
Like, some people just don't like going out and stuff.
And I see the whole environment may not be your thing.
And I get it.
Well, so it's two things.
One, so I would never, I'm never going to go with her.
I would never go to a bar or club with a girl.
Why?
You'd have to fucking drag me, knock me out.
And yeah, but why?
Oh my gosh.
I mean, okay, so it's obnoxiously loud.
It is.
You can get hearing damage, Grandpa Brian over here.
But yeah, I don't know if you've ever had the experience of going to a loud party, bar, club.
Ears are ringing after the fact you can get permanent hearing damage, permanent ringing in your ears.
It's called tinnitus.
That's a thing.
Just specifically on the noise thing, though, like it's if you were there to talk, bro, you got to fucking scream, then your voice gets all hoarse and shit.
It's very crowded.
There's a lot of people drinking.
I don't really drink like that.
So to me, drunk people are kind of obnoxious.
There's that.
Let's see what else.
A lot of stupid shit goes down.
Fights, violence.
I mean, I know Santa Barbara is a very affluent area, but I've seen people get stabbed on State Street.
I've seen people get fucking knocked out cold, fucking break their head on the pavement, brain damage for life.
Like, that shit can come to you when you're out and about like that.
Just totally unprovoked situations.
So that's one reason that I don't like to go out.
But really, I just, and also I just don't really drink.
So, and people are smoking.
I feel like you might like this bar in LA.
It's called Barcade.
And it's pretty chill, actually.
Not to do any promos, but you just go and it's all these old classic arcade games.
And the music's not loud.
It's like an older crowd.
Everybody's like really chill.
And you get to, you know, do something so that way if she wants to go out and drink and hang out with your friends and stuff, you guys could go there together.
I would.
Just in case you fall for a party girl.
Well, need an alternative.
Well, don't get me started about my disdain for Los Angeles.
True that.
I don't like LA.
But okay, what were you talking about?
I have a question for you.
Go ahead.
Is it the drinking you have a problem with or the going out?
Like, let's say she's going out every weekend, but she's sober each time.
She's DD.
She's just the going out.
I mean, drinking is bad too because I don't drink.
And so something I'd want the partner is someone who drinks in moderation, who does not drink a lot.
I mean, usually drinking often coincides with going out to clubs and bars and parties.
I don't drink.
And I go out to clubs and bars and parties.
Yeah, that's still for a partner.
To me, I still think that's bad.
Really?
I still think it's bad.
I like to go out.
I like to have fun.
I like to dance.
I like to be with the girls.
But I don't drink.
It's very rare if I drink.
I don't get drunk ever.
That's just a personal thing because I feel like I like to have more fun when I'm like sober than not.
But I don't know.
I mean, I dated an ex that would stay in all the time.
And you would still go out?
I would still go out.
Did he have an issue with it?
No, because he would just stay in bed.
And if he did have an issue with it, I didn't really care because he wasn't coming with me.
So he didn't really get a say.
Okay.
Yeah, I just want to make something clear.
Like, it's not, I wouldn't control the girl.
It would just be, here are my standards.
If you want to go out, fine, we're no longer in a relationship.
I'm not going to try to control the girl.
No, you can't do that.
It's never going to be an argument.
It would just be like Same way that a lot of women, for example, have preferences over men who don't play video games.
You ask a lot of women, they say, if my guy's playing a lot of video games, I have an issue with that.
Or some girls might say, I don't want you to be paying for another girl's OnlyFans, or I don't want you to go to the strip club.
So for me, I don't want my girl going to bars and clubs.
That's a boundary you'd set.
It's a boundary.
Yeah.
It's not, it would never be a control thing.
If a girl was like, fuck you, Brian, I'm going.
I'm like, okay.
Like, we're just not right for each other.
But I can tell you guys why it's an issue for me as far as girls going to the club.
Well, men and women flirt differently.
So in my view, you're starting to get into cheating territory a little bit.
Because as a guy, if you go to a nightclub or a bar, ain't nobody, let's say you go alone, right?
You go to a bar or club or a party, ain't nobody coming in to talk to you that night.
Nobody's coming up to you.
No chicks are hitting on you.
You're just going to sit at the bar alone with your drink, lonely.
That's it.
As a girl, if you go to a bar, club, or a party, guys are going to come up and hit on you.
So that's kind of my issue with it.
But it's not.
Well, I think guys do.
I mean, I think guys do get approached at bars and stuff like that.
So hey, like.
Really?
When's the last do you approach guys?
Yeah.
How often?
When's the last time you're in the business?
I mean, if I see a cute guy, if I see a fine man, I'm going to approach him.
Hasn't it been like five months for you?
Since I've had sex, not since I've gone out.
Have you approached a guy?
Yeah, of course.
And you're telling me, so you approached a guy, you hit on the guy, and it just never went anywhere?
Well, it depends.
Okay, yeah, actually.
I mean, we did.
You approach them.
Okay.
Eh, you're funny.
But we approach them, like, see if there's a vibe, see if there's a dynamic.
If there is, there is.
And if there isn't, there isn't.
But in my, like, my past, like, I've approached men, I would say, let's see, maybe two to five ratio of two went well, five didn't.
I feel like guys don't like that.
They don't like women who are approachable or like want to approach them.
I feel like guys are looking for what you're looking for, which is more demure women who are just.
You know, I think a lot of guys, I think most men, there's definitely men who are like not, who are like hyper-masculine.
Maybe it's not even hyper-masculine, but they're like, I want to be the lead.
You know, they want to be the leader in the relationship, so they want to be the one initiating.
But I think honestly, the vast majority of guys, and myself included, I actually do appreciate when women take initiative and when women approach, it's very refreshing because most guys get unless you're just going up to the mega babe dudes, you know, the top tier guys, then they probably get it more regularly.
But most men get no attention from women whatsoever.
Go ahead.
That's something me and my friends actually talk about a lot.
Like men aren't really, as much as I hate to agree with men, but men, for the most part, aren't ever really complimented.
Like, I feel like girls are always like, oh my gosh, you look so good to each other, even from men, but like very rarely do I ever hear my guy friends like getting that same attention.
So like I could see why it would be refreshing or nice for a girl to come up to you.
And I think that that's why I said I disagree with you.
I think that girls or guys do like that.
And I could see why.
I feel like too, I've learned like, and I've learned this because I like have like some friends that have told me this.
Like I work for football team.
I've learned this.
But like I've learned that guys don't get complimented nearly enough, like you said.
And if you give them the smallest compliment, they will run with that for their entire day.
Like I notice a lot when guys get haircuts, I'll be like, oh my God, I like your haircut.
Like literally in passing, it's not me flirting with you.
It's not me hitting on you.
It's you got a haircut.
I've noticed it.
You look good.
But like if it's in a bar and you're just like, hey, I think you're really handsome.
Like just so you know, and you walk away, like that's going to be in their head.
You know, like that's.
Bro, he's going to be crushed if you walk away though.
But then that also can also like open a door for him to like shoot that next shot.
And if he doesn't and you're like leaving and you see him again, okay, then there's your opportunity, ladies.
But like if you like, just even the simplest compliment, it really makes a difference and it can shoot that first shot.
That's a good point.
No, it's a really good point on the compliment thing too, because I mean most men have never been complimented by a girl.
Yeah.
Never been hit on by a girl.
Never had a girl slide into their DMs.
Never been pursued by a girl.
Never been overtly sexually desired by a girl.
Never had a girl offer to take him out to dinner.
Never had a girl offer to buy him a drink at a bar.
Never had a guy offer to fly him out somewhere.
That's one.
Have y'all ever.
Here, we'll go around really quick on this one.
Well, just to wrap up, like, so most men are invisible to most women.
Like, they get no attention.
None.
So I think most men would be super enthusiastic.
Don't worry.
I know it's just the chair squeaking.
Yeah, but like most men would be super enthusiastic about a woman making some initiative and or giving them a compliment or whatever.
But yeah.
They will honestly, you said they'll remember that for the day.
Most men, if you compliment them, they'll fucking remember that for their life.
Even if you don't remember that.
You're at a grocery store.
Like just like you're like checking out whatever.
Like it's the smallest thing and it makes her like.
I remember at the gym I had a girl just the other day come up to me and she's like, oh my god, like I see you working hard, like your body's like my dream body, and that I ran with that.
I'm gonna remember that forever, like forever.
So it's like those little things makes a difference.
Yeah, if a girl offers to fly you out, like so, you would just be so surprised if a girl offered to fly me out, what are you talking about?
Some unicorns, some quiet, stay home, like perfect woman, but she goes out every weekend.
Large lady, what wait what?
What if it's a girl offering to fly you out?
She's attractive but she goes out every weekend?
He not going, you're not going, let's see.
Well, he'll stay at her house.
Yeah, I mean, I mean.
So my thing is is i'm not really trying to just run through a bunch of chicks like, I am interested in more serious situations.
So to me it's like kind of, what's the point, you know?
Um, i'm not, i'm not about like.
There's this Sir Mix Lot song.
I don't know if you've heard it.
Baby got back in the song.
He says some punks like to hit it and quit it, but i'd rather stay and play.
So I know i'm very pale to be rapping, by the way um, but no, like that's that's.
That's kind of where I'm at.
Like, I don't get, to me, it's kind of weird.
These guys that are just fucking chicks once and then ghosting.
Like, that to me is weird.
Like, I mean, maybe there's something wrong or whatever, but to me, what's the point?
Then again, I'm very busy.
So I'm like, the thought of just hooking up with a girl once and then never talking to her again is.
For example, let's say there's a girl who's like just in town.
There's a lot of tourists here in Santa Barbara.
She's just in town for the weekend and she's fucking down.
I'm not going to fuck her.
Like legit.
I would not it to me it's a waste of time to be fair It's never that guaranteed usually although some actually no I have turned down some women There was like clearly they're just hey I'm in town for the weekend.
Let's hook up to me.
It's I'm not gonna does your status ever get in the way for you my status like like bro YouTuber well sorry go ahead.
No, no go ahead because like like people like knowing like oh you're from YouTube.
Oh you have all this stuff.
Oh, you have all these awards.
Like, is that ever?
Like, do you ever get those?
Women are just like, hey, just because you have that title, girls don't give a fuck.
I'm gonna be honest for me anyways.
But here's the thing like, because we were talking about the Leonardo DiCaprio thing, about like how, like he's getting, he's got real Leonardo DiCaprio has real status right, but like I'm just saying though like, like you do have like some, like you have it.
I have a degree of status, but like one, my audience is predominantly male.
So like, these girls have never heard of me and I don't have a blue check mark on Instagram.
Whatever has a blue check mark on Instagram.
I own whatever, but you know it's.
It's different.
Honestly most, most girls have not given a fuck keep.
But keep in mind, I'm 33, so I think I'm 33.
Yeah dinosaur right, I thought you were like 27 or something.
Well, thank you for the compliment, much appreciated.
You look great.
Thank you for the endorsement.
The wrinkles are starting to come in though, but no honestly, my experience has been like, no chick is like Brian, it's so cool what you do.
Most women like don't give a fuck.
I've actually had women who who actually are like this is a detractor really.
Yes, because you talk to so many women.
Well, so I mean, I've had women who really, who are like professional women and they're like, hey Brian, you know you did all these crazy prank videos and stuff and I'm a litigation attorney I don't know if I can, you know it's.
They're like, oh, there's a mismatch in our careers, because I'm not a like an upright button up or upright like suit, I'm not a profess, like well, I'm professional, but I'm not a like a yuppie, I'm not, you know, in the corporate world.
So like, if you met a girl and the girl she doesn't know you're a youtuber, she doesn't know like all the stuff you did before what, like on the day, will you like tell her, I mean like as a thing that you think you're proud, I mean, you know, kind of like a thing you can show off.
Like, where we like talk, tell her as a no.
Honestly, I don't even.
You just wait out by herself.
If she asks, then I'll tell her about my work, but I don't really like talking about my YouTube and my work.
I'm more, I'm typically actually conversationally on a date, I'm more inquisitive.
So I'm trying to like hear more what they have to say.
My experience on dates has definitely been like, yeah, honestly, a lot of times, like, the girls don't even care.
Like, they won't even ask about it.
I think that's valid.
Like, I'm the same way.
I'm very inquisitive.
Like, if I'm meeting a guy for the first time, and if they are very quick to talk about all their accomplishments, the things that they like, I'm like, no, thank you.
No, that's great.
I'll never, yeah, I try to stay reasonably humble.
Like, I'm not, I would never be like, so I have three million subscribers and this many views.
I would never do that because I think that's a fucking lame, to be honest.
But no, I honestly, like, unless they ask about it, I won't even bring it up.
Like, some girls, like, if it's on the first date, second date, or whatever, and where she like comes back to my place or whatever, she's be like, what's that?
Like, she'll see the plaques or whatever.
And then she'll be curious.
But honestly, my experience has been most chicks don't give a fuck.
But here's the thing: like, I've tried to remain fairly humble.
So I put on the totem pole of clout, let's just say, you have like A-list celebrities, musicians, and then there's like musicians, actors.
It's probably like athletes.
No, it's probably musicians, athletes, actors.
And then there's like hmm.
a little and then you got to skip down like oh stand-up comedians and then models Male models?
Just models.
Don't have to be male models.
I don't think chicks really care about male models, but and then you like a few more down, you've got like ventriloquist, and then below ventriloquist, you have YouTuber.
That's my view on it.
But maybe that's just me being humble.
I don't know.
We did grow up with YouTube, so I feel like there's something more inherent for us to be a little more cool with it.
Yeah, women my age are like what?
That's true.
31 YouTube.
Yeah.
They don't, they just think it's like this novelty.
But like, I think younger people are definitely like they look up to YouTubers the same way that people used to look up to top-tier, like, you know, A-list movie actors and that sort of stuff.
So, anyways, what were we talking about?
We were talking about most men who are invisible.
You were making the conclusions.
Yeah, I think we get there, though.
Let's do some super chat.
Did anyone want to come in on anything?
No.
We were talking about the club.
Why?
Oh, I could do the dream world scenario to explain to you also why I think guys have a higher interest in having a standard or preference for their girl not going to the club.
I could paint you a dream world scenario.
I mean, I don't know if I'll hear it.
All right, I'll do it.
I've got it written down here.
Okay, I did this in the last show, but we'll just do it just because it came up.
So, okay, this is a dream world hypothetical scenario.
So, let's create a dream world.
Let's be honest.
Like, unless a guy is super famous, like super good-looking, like, girls just really aren't hitting up guys to the degree that I'm about to paint in this dream world fairy tale scenario.
In the real world, like we already discussed, the vast majority of men who go out to parties, bars, and clubs are invisible, just straight up get ignored the entire night.
So, okay.
This is the example I like to give.
Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub bar or party type environment where throughout the course of the night he's going to get approached, flirted with, and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which are more attractive than you and could potentially be a better partner than you?
These women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically want to sleep with him that night and steal him away from you.
It also just happens to be the case that you guys had a major argument earlier on in the day and his single manho friends are rallying, being a bad influence.
They don't like you, by the way.
Telling him he should do it, you know, whatever, talking shit about you all night.
Would you be okay with that scenario?
No.
Nah, I'd be pretty mad.
Yeah.
If he's pressable like that and it's that easy for him to succumb to that pressure, then I don't want to be with you anyways.
But personally, for me, if I'm going out and all that's happening, like I'm shutting it down quick.
Like I'm with someone.
I don't even want to talk to you.
Thank you.
Like nice to meet you.
Bye.
So.
Yeah.
I mean, I kind of agree.
Like, I was with you in the beginning.
I was like, okay, cool, whatever.
You know, like, I'm with this person.
Obviously, if he's loyal and he has like, he cares about me, my values, our relationship.
Because I've been in the situations where the friends don't like me.
I've been in the situations where like we go in an argument, they go out, whatever.
Even like without the friends hating you, I still think it can be viewed as an objectionable scenario.
I think my thing is, like, I don't care if my man goes out, if he has like women buying him drinks, if like get your free drinks.
I personally don't care.
They want to fuck him.
If they're buying him drinks, I don't care.
If he still comes home to me.
What if the girls are more attractive than you physically?
If he still comes home to me, I do have a little bit of jealousy stuff.
Do you see where the temptation is?
Yeah, absolutely.
But that's not his fault at all.
But like, if he does something, then it's like, all right, you're done.
Like, every relationship I've been in, I've been cheated on, I've been treated badly.
If he chooses to like do something, that's where I'm like, now I feel like I'm strong enough to like cut the tie right there.
But I'm not going to be like, okay, well, like, you can't go out.
Because, like, we just got in a heated argument.
Like, you need space, go get your.
But, like, if you do something, then it's like, we're done.
Your take?
Me personally, I feel like my man should have enough money to buy his own damn drink.
So, like, he should have shot that down, definitely.
But that was the only red flag to me.
There's always going to be more beautiful women in the room.
There's somebody with a better personality.
It's just that I have to have the trust in him the same as he would have in me when I go out.
That I'm going to, I don't want anybody else.
I want my person.
And I'm here to dance and be with my friends.
And like, literally, like, fuck the club.
Like, I've never gone to the club and like hooked up with somebody, had like a flirty interaction because that's not what I'm there for.
What are you at the club for?
Shake my ass.
But what if they buy you the drinks?
Like, what if the role?
I don't accept drinks from strangers because I don't know what the fuck you put in that.
That's why you watch it.
Like, you grab that drink and you ride.
You're a big girl mommy, and I'm gonna buy my drink.
You take the free drink and you run.
But I mean, the bartender would just whore it.
I feel like there's an expectation that I hate of like.
And you shut that expectation.
You're obligated to do something, but with the wrong man, like that could be fatal.
I can see that.
The whole point is, is to do a bit of a role reversal here because that scenario I just described never happens to men, but that's pretty much what you experience as a woman.
Guys going out, buying you drinks, they want to fuck.
That temptation is not there in real life for men who just go to a bar, even if even if they're just standing there.
I mean, just like for, I don't know, like for a healthy relationship, you guys, if you guys want to go like with long-term relationships, if you guys like have argument, then just communicate and solve the problem instead of one of the like one of the people like goes to the bar.
And I don't know.
I just, I don't think it's a good solution for any arguments happen between a couple.
Like the real solution is just go talk to each other, go solve the problem instead of go to a club, go to a bar, because it's just not going to do anything to the problem.
Yeah.
Sure, sure.
I guess here's another way I could paint it.
Would you be cool with your boyfriend staying on a dating app while you were in a relationship?
No, no, sir.
Nope.
So that's why.
That to me is like the equivalent of a girl going out to a bar.
because you're here's the thing part of being in the month Part of being in the monogamous, committed relationship, it means closing off your options, including the potential of a possibly better option.
That's the basis of getting commitment from somebody.
So in order for women to close off their options, you can't really be going into a specific...
Well, no, I'm not saying that.
But I'm saying a nightclub, bar, or party, it's a very specific social scenario where...
Look, I know girls get hit on at Trader Joe's.
I get that.
Girls get hit on just walking down the street, looking all frumpy and shit.
I get it.
Y'all still going to get approached no matter what.
That's not the issue, right?
But going to a bar, club, or party is a very specific scenario where I think it's not a good situation to be in a relationship if you're in a serious relationship.
That's my take.
Keep in mind, I don't go to bars and clubs.
I've been in the past, but.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of fair.
If you don't go, it's reasonable.
Like, you don't want your partners to go.
So, like, if you go, then you just can't, like, oh, I can go to a club and you can't.
Right.
Yeah, right.
So for me, it's totally reasonable.
So for me, it's not just an issue of, hey, the club environment, you're going to get hit on.
You're going to be drinking.
Like, your friends are going to be in your ear.
Honestly, one of the worst things for relationships is your single friends.
Like, that shit's going to fuck you up.
But what was I going to say?
For me, it's just a reciprocity thing, like, because I don't go to bars and clubs.
So it goes beyond just, I think this is bad for relationships.
I think it's fair that you, like she said, I don't think it's, I think it's fair that you don't want your girl to go out because you don't go out.
But the whole dating, men being on dating apps is the equivalent.
I completely disagree on because at the end of the day, the equivalent is women being on dating apps.
And on a dating app, you're on the dating app to date, to meet other girls.
But when you're going to the club, you're not going there to do that.
Like you're going there to have fun and hang out.
Like I'm not going to the club to be like, well, I hope I find a man that's going to be a little bit more.
Let me ask you guys a question.
Why do guys go to clubs?
To drink, to socialize.
Yeah.
Why not just socialize?
But it's so fucking loud.
Like if you wanted to socialize, why not just go somewhere?
Maybe you like music.
You're against bars and clubs.
We know you're against bars and clubs.
We understand that you're against bars and clubs.
I'll tell you this.
Guys, guys go out to bars and clubs to get chicks.
But I think all of the girlfriends I have have never met a girl who's like, I need to go get laid.
Like, let me go to the bars.
Like, genuinely, I'd just go to Tinder if that was the case.
Like, I want to go out and dance.
I have roommates that do that.
Yeah, I've heard.
Well, I bet.
Oh, yeah, they're good.
I live with 17 girls, though.
Jesus.
That's so fair.
That's a yikes.
But I think it's really important to remember, like, not everyone sees the bar, the club space as, like, a dating scene.
Like, some people see it as genuinely to have a fun time or just to get fucked up.
Celebrate birthdays.
Like, guys hide out.
But, I mean, certainly part of it is when you go out, you're going to get attention from men.
I'm pretty sure that's part of it.
It's not slow, though.
It's not as high as people going out to have fun.
It's just an endless argument.
Anyway.
You want to dress to get the attention of whoever is bouncing, so that way you don't have to pay the cover fee.
That's the most important key.
I mean, I just don't get like, okay, you want to go out to dance.
Why not just stay at home?
Just stay at home.
It's different.
Just stay at home and dance, right?
Well, you can put on some music, drink at home, right?
So, anyways, whatever.
We're going to move on from that one.
So.
But sort of related.
And I think I might have brought this up before.
I think I already did.
The strip club thing.
Would you guys have an issue with your guy going to a strip club?
If they go with me, it's fine.
No, they go alone.
If they go with their friends, I think it's fine, but by themselves, it's a little weird.
With friends, I don't personally care.
By themselves, it's weird.
Like, I could do that for you at home.
Like, why are you going out?
Yeah.
And for free.
Like, that's our wallet.
If it's with their friends, like, bachelor party, okay, like, go for it.
But, like, or, like, I'll go with you.
But, like, if you're going by yourself, that's a little weird.
I would love to go to the strip club.
So, by myself, this is really weird to me.
We're going to do a couple super chats.
We got one from Mr. Andrew Tate to the girl in red.
Come to Europe, baby.
Okay, that's, do you have a response to?
I've been in Europe before.
Yeah.
Okay, we got, hey, what's up, man?
Glebis?
I'm sorry, I can't pronounce your name, man.
Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
Much appreciated.
Brian just said what I was typing.
Most men would like to have women 19 to 25.
Not all men can, and not all men admit it, but it's true.
Yeah, if most men, like if they could get, like, let's say older men, if they could date a woman who is younger, they would 100% do it.
You asked most men, would you rather date a woman who, let's say you ask a 35-year-old, would you rather date a 35-year-old or a 25-year-old?
Most of them are going to say 25.
Yeah, that's weird.
Let's see.
Andrew Tate, thank you for the, I don't know what currency that is.
I want a woman who makes me two coffees.
Me too.
We should react to, maybe we should react to an Andrew Tate thing.
I think there's also this one from Andrew Tate.
I am flying the red-haired girl to Romania.
Pack your bags.
Do you have a response to Mr. Andrew Tate?
Are you going to accept his invitation?
Maybe someday.
You do have a boyfriend.
So maybe, yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
So just on the note of, let me see, on this one.
We could bring it back really quick to this because I feel like we didn't quite wrap up the whole Leonardo discussion and all that.
But before we do that, we'll probably wrap up here pretty soon.
I want to just open it up to you guys.
Do you guys have a question or like a final thought?
Either a question for me or a question for someone else on the panel related to dating.
Why don't we start with you?
Just with the statistics that I've learned about so far tonight, it makes me just kind of worried because I want to grow old with somebody and I want to get married and have like kind of what we consider like that timeless classic relationship.
But then now there's this like, okay, as I get older, I'm becoming less and less of, like, if I end up with a man, I'm becoming less and less of my husband's type.
And then I think that's also kind of why we see men, like when their wives get sick and things like that, like they'll leave or they'll cheat on them.
And it's, you know, not all men, obviously, but that does happen.
And so.
I'd say that happens to both.
Yeah.
It's just kind of shitty.
People are shitty.
I have no faith in marriage right now.
It's sad.
Well, marriage is marriage doesn't really benefit men anymore.
So I don't think men should get married.
Don't do it, guys.
She'll take half.
Okay.
What?
Or she'll make half.
She'll make more.
Right?
Or more.
Well, you know what?
It is the case that young women are actually starting to out-earn men.
And I think a lot of women are going to have a problem with that.
So.
Because there've been some articles I've seen, some studies, or not studies, but some reports that women are struggling to find men that are financially or economically attractive.
So I've seen some reports of that.
Men are making less money and men are having less sex.
Sorry, guys.
Get better.
That's all I can say.
Sucks to suck.
Okay.
I mean, I don't even know where I begin.
Feminism.
Okay.
Go ahead.
I don't really have any last final words or final thoughts.
Question?
Not really.
I mean, I spoke what I had.
I stand by everything that I said.
Okay.
Final thought or question for me or for the panel?
I have a question, actually.
Why, back to the whole virgin conversation, why do you think that men prefer virgins?
Like, what about it is it the fact that they haven't been, like, what is it?
I mean, it's a couple things.
So we're getting into the body count thing.
So men just, throughout most of human history, up until very recently, men have valued, and actually it's been valued in both genders.
So sexual purity has been something that's been valued.
Not anymore.
But I think men have a bigger stake in valuing it.
So men value sexual purity.
Why?
So there's a few things.
One, it's an evolutionary biological thing.
So one of those comes down to paternity.
So back in the day, talking caveman shit, if a woman was just fucking a bunch of dudes and she got pregnant, you don't know who the dad is.
So men now in the past, I think it was in the 1980s, you know, we sequenced DNA, we figured it all out.
We can get paternity tests today.
But that evolutionary hardwiring is still ingrained in men.
And as a woman, if you have a child, you know 100% that that child's yours.
But men have a pretty much the biggest L you can take as a guy is believing a kid is yours and it's actually not.
So one, it just reveals that your partner was cheating on you.
And then the second is that is not your biological kid.
And a lot of men want to have children that are theirs.
So on both an intellectual level and like an innate biological evolutionary level, men have a greater stake in women's sexual purity.
Because if a woman's just fucking a bunch of guys, whoops, if a woman's just fucking around sleeping with a bunch of guys, she's less the chances of the kid being his is greatly diminished.
Now, I know people are fucking and they're not either the guy or the woman is not intending to have children.
People engage in casual sex all the time.
People have relationships and they want kids.
But I mean, there's other factors too.
So for example, sexually transmitted diseases.
Someone who's had more sexual partners, and I mean, this is self-evident, but it's also backed up by studies.
If you've had more sexual partners, you're more likely to have an STD.
If you're promiscuous, if you have a high body count, you're more likely to have an STD.
I mean, to me, that's self-evident.
What other reasons?
It's honestly, it's also just kind of gross.
No offense.
Like, for me, Sydney's shaking her head here.
I'm being quiet.
So for me, I, and I don't know if you girls, you might feel like there's an equivalent here that you might feel the same way about this.
Now, I don't have an expectation that if the first message I send to a girl, she's immediately going to be loyal to me and not talk to any other guys.
But to me, I don't want to sleep with a woman that's fucking another guy.
I don't care if it's our first time sleeping together.
One of my preferences, and it's not even a preference.
It's really like, well, people lie, so you can never be sure what's going on and people be fucking.
The thought of sleeping with a woman that fucked a guy the night before just disgusts me.
I find that disgusting, incredibly unattractive.
You let a guy come inside you yesterday and now you want to fuck.
Even if we're using a condom, I just find that gross.
In the same way that you might say, if a guy just fucked a girl, he didn't even shower and he's fucking you.
You might be like, that's kind of gross.
So, yeah, that's the other thing.
Like, I don't, and I don't know.
Did you want to come in?
I mean, like, she could not be a virgin and that happened where she's not fucking, had fucked a guy the night before.
And, like, you could, you know, she didn't have to be a virgin for that to be a boundary.
Right.
Yeah.
So, I mean.
Can I ask a question?
Is it related to her?
Sure.
Okay, so, like, the whole, like, guys prefer a girl, it's a virgin thing, but there's a low body count.
Or low body count, but there's also that.
In 2022, I don't think most men's expectations and certainly not mine are the girl's a virgin.
But there's also that like thing where it's just like, oh, like, you know, you take a virginity, like, they're going to be attached to you.
Like, is that not something good?
No!
Be attached.
That's what I'm saying.
And that's also like a turnoff, is it not?
Not for me.
But like, you're a special case, though.
Like, when it comes to, like, you like the stay at home, like, be attached, like, you and me.
But, like, for other guys, just like, oh, cool, like, I took her virginity, now go away.
Like, you know, you can't have best of both worlds.
I mean, she probably needs to, if she's losing her.
I mean, there's some girls that just, some girls just want to lose it.
Want to lose it to lose it, yeah.
But also, like, I think it's like a study or something.
Like, you, like, lose it to that person, like, you have that attraction, you have that link, you have, like, same with, like, that's why, like, in the Bible, they're like, wait until marriage to have, like, that sexual connection, because then, like, you guys are linked together type of thing.
That's the thing.
Does that not freak you guys out?
Like, you guys talk about that.
Oh, I want a girl to be able to pair bond.
Women who have been ran through by guys who've slept with a lot of people, and it does, I think this also does impact men, but to a lesser degree.
Women who have slept with 100 men are their ability to pair bond and fall in love with a guy is so fucking broken.
It's possible, but it's so warped because if you've been incredibly promiscuous and you've just treated sex extremely casually, listen, I want to make something clear.
You're free to do it.
I'm not saying we should impose some sort of restrictions on it.
You're free to do it.
But if you've slept with 100 men, you've hardwired towards short-term pleasure seeking.
Relationships require long-term planning.
And so you're in the same way with like drugs.
If you take drugs, you are hardwiring your brain or like TikTok.
I don't know if any of you have scrolled TikTok for three hours.
Try to read a book after you've just been scrolling on TikTok.
So we are rewiring our brains towards short-term pleasure seeking and away from delayed gratification, let's just say.
And so, I don't know, I'm kind of rambling, but what was your I got my answers.
I was just oh, the virgin thing, and like, but would you date a girl that like, if you asked her, I didn't mean to cut you off to you?
No, you're good.
But like, if you asked the girl, like, you're like starting to see, like, I don't know, like, third date, whatever, you guys are ready to sleep together, would you, if you asked her, like, what's your body count?
And she didn't tell you.
Like, I don't tell anybody my body count.
Even the guy that you were dating and he wanted to know?
If it's like a serious relationship, but if we're like three, four months in, no.
I just don't.
Wait, so what's the question?
Like, if you asked a girl, like, hey, what's your body count?
And she didn't want to tell you, would that be yours?
I would assume, I would start to assume things.
Yeah, but like.
Then I'd probably to like, I'd probably start asking some like sneaky questions to kind of like get, okay, you know, I'd ask certain questions to try to suss it out a bit, you know?
Ever had a threesome?
Are you ever been poly?
You know, I'd start asking questions like that to kind of get a sense of it.
It might not be a guaranteed indicator, but you can definitely ask stuff like, geez, I'm trying to remember.
I have a list here somewhere.
Hold on.
But go ahead.
Did you have more to add to that?
Okay.
But I agree with you what you said before.
Like, I do think if you do like a casual thing for a long time or you just like take it as a part of your life, it does affect your ability to, you know, really care about somebody, like really have building connections with others.
Because I don't know, like at the end of the day, everyone wants to be loved.
Everyone wants to build like the real connections.
So the casual thing, just like if you do it for a long time, it just kind of like affect your, it's kind of like affect your mental health, I think.
I honestly, I think people that are engaged in just a bunch of casual sex, I think it's less the case for men, but like women who are just going out, just hey, you're free to do it.
They tend to be the most, I think they've done studies on this, though, the most depressed, most likely to be on antidepressants, most unhappy.
So I don't think a girl that's like fucking a new guy every night, not every night, but like fucking the new guy every week is like happy.
I could be wrong.
I think she's just using it as a distraction.
I've seen the same thing in like men, like especially like my guy friends, we're all around the same age where they'll use sex in like a really negative, toxic way.
Like I feel like in a way they're trying to cope for something or maybe just distract themselves by, you know, doing this.
Yeah, we've all been through a lot of people.
We've all been through that phase, but casually hooking up after a bad breakup.
You're not happy, but I don't think it's the sex that's making you unhappy.
That's just what you're trying to cope with, and it's not healthy.
Sure.
Yeah.
I think, like, yeah, I think part of people, like, they know what they're doing, and they want to change like the situation right now, but they're just convincing themselves, like, oh, I'm just do it for fun.
Like, I'm just, it's fine, it's okay, it's funny, but like in the dip of their heart, they want to change.
They want to, you know, they realize like the bad side of this, yeah.
Yeah, and I think as far as sussing out potential body count, um, one, it can, there's a comment here, like, you can kind of tell by the attitude, like, there's some indicators, you know, you can kind of get a feel for it.
I mean, here's one.
If she's going to bars every weekend, I'm going to start thinking, like, I'm already thinking a little.
I mean, I could be wrong.
I could be wrong, but like, if you're like heavy into partying, heavy into drinking, drug use, I'm going to start like, okay.
It's just a stereotype.
You know, like, I go out to bars and people look at me crazy because I don't drink.
They're like, how are you doing this sober?
And I was like, well, I don't need to drink to go out and dance and have fun.
But I get the crazy eyes, and I guess, like, the why the hell are you sober?
Well, I mean, props to you for going out sober.
Honestly, especially here.
See, I don't, I don't, I guess I just don't find it that weird, but I can understand that.
Like, you don't smoke weed?
I do occasionally, but it's like once, like, it's very rare now, very rare now, but I didn't smoke weed until February.
I'm 21.
And I come from Reno, Nevada, where it's like super popular, you know?
And honestly, so asking for body count, I don't even think that's a good way, because I don't think you're going to get a real answer.
You're not going to get the answer you want either if you're asking.
She might not tell you.
She might lie.
She might not count this guy here or this guy here.
It was, you know, it was just for a second, just to see how it feels.
You know?
There was the joke, like, like for women, like, you only, like, count as many times as you finished.
It's like, okay, well, that just like scaled it.
Yeah.
Right?
So I was just like, oh, I'm a virgin.
Oh, it's two.
Yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, I think it's honestly sometimes.
Plus, I don't think I would overt, I don't think I would overtly ask a girl unless it came up organically in conversation.
If we were just somehow, if we were already talking about talking about it, talking about dating somehow, maybe it could come up, but yeah.
I mean, we could go around the table.
Well, what's your body count?
It depends on, I'm kind of the tough case because I like, I've had sex with men and women, so really your definition of what sex is matters.
Well, my definition is.
How about do you want to break it down between men and women?
With women, I just, it only matters is that we orgasm.
Yeah, yeah, and we're intimate.
And with guys, I would just say penetrative because I'm like, if I gave you a blowjob, we didn't have sex.
Right.
And so 20.
That's my, that's my final answer, 20.
Total?
Total.
20 guys and.
No, no, no.
20 all together.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sydney?
I told you I don't comment on mine.
Rule number 76: no excuses, play like a champion.
No excuses, play like a champion, Sydney.
I don't comment on mine.
Fair enough.
I'm a no-commenter as well.
I want to not comment, but I want to participate.
Do it.
My body count is six.
Hey, that's totally respectable.
Respectable.
What's my body count?
Can we get a comment?
Okay, I came out with 20, so body count.
Two.
Two.
Okay, wow.
Wait, so hold on.
Wait, hold on.
How about you?
Yeah, what's your body count?
So, wait, two.
And both of the guys were here in the U.S.
No.
Are you not counting the guys back in China?
No, no, like in my life.
Okay, but only two because you said you had a you have a boyfriend now, yeah, and then you met an older gentleman I like in total I have two boyfriend So one is this boyfriend one is my ex-boyfriend Okay, and But okay, make it clear like the guy who was like seven or eight years older than me That doesn't count as one of my boyfriends.
So I don't I didn't have sex with him like it was it was with my boyfriend from high school.
Okay, got it.
And that was back in China.
Yeah.
I see.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
You?
Yeah, what's your body count?
I'm not sharing.
Oh, you're going to give us crap when you don't have a comment.
I didn't give you guys crap.
See, here's the thing: I believe body count matters.
So that's why I'm not going to share my body count.
Exactly.
How about you guys guess?
I'll let you guys guess.
20.
Can we get a higher or a lower?
We'll go around the table.
25, 23 or 25.
I'm going to go four.
Four.
Okay.
I said it matters.
It does.
It matters.
But you also don't want to dirty.
I don't know.
I just met him today.
I'm going to say 11.
I'm going to say 7 to 12.
Damn.
I'll say 14.
I think you had a hoe face.
Can we get a high ball?
Who was closest?
No comment.
That's such bullshit.
No comment.
No comment.
I can tell you this.
We could go around on this.
Like age, lost virginity.
So for me, it was 17.
It was 18.
16. 18. 15. 17.
Okay.
Boom.
Rock and roll.
Rock and roll.
Did we?
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's 18.
I'm sorry.
My brain just blinked.
It's fine.
Did we go around for everyone for final thought or question?
I don't know where did I adequately address your enough.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, hold on.
Actually, I do have one thing here.
All right, Sydney.
Oh, wow.
Detecting the body count.
Detecting the body count on both of you.
Sydney's 14.
I don't know what game you're playing.
I'm not answering that.
You wouldn't answer ours.
No comment.
You?
I'm a really bad liar.
Seven.
She's got a good poker face.
So am I the slut?
Like, hold on.
I just want to know.
Damn, right.
Wait, I'm right.
What made you say 14 and 7?
Like, what was that?
No, I'm not answering that.
So am I the slut if I'm like double hers?
What's going on with that?
What do you mean?
Like, why?
That's just what my guess is to your body count.
Okay.
14 makes you a slut, Sydney?
No.
Not at all.
Support at all, but like, why what makes you think mine's higher on the higher range?
I don't think I want to know the answer actually.
Honestly, it's just the scouter.
Okay, sure.
It's not, you know.
Okay.
It's not a character judgment.
It's just what the scouter told me.
Okay.
Final thought or question for the panel, for me?
No.
Thanks.
No.
Okay.
Let me get some super chats here really quick, and then I think we'll end off with a video.
Okay, we got Mike Davis with the $10 soup chat.
Hey, Mike, thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it.
Fellow kings, never get married.
While I've never broken up a marriage, I've prevented many.
I'd rather go to jury duty than ever attend a wedding.
Okay.
Mike Davis, have you ever been married?
I'm curious.
Mike Davis has not been roasting, by the way.
That's nice.
He usually.
No, he usually does.
It's like four a day.
Mike Davis.
But yeah, guys, don't get married.
It's a raw deal for men.
So you don't want to get married?
No.
I could have a life partner.
I could have a girl that I could, you know, be with forever.
So why not get married?
Why not get married?
It's like I said, it's a raw deal for men.
Men get washed in marriage.
What if she's alimony?
She makes more.
Yeah.
Most women don't date down.
Most women are not going to want to date a guy that makes less than them.
But like you said, our generation, we have women who are making more money.
There's still women who would want to make money and have kids.
There's going to be more stay-at-home fathers.
Well, what's going to happen is you're going to have a lot of single women because they're not going to want to settle because they're going to look at all the guys.
They're going to be working their nice little office jobs and stuff.
They're going to look at all the men and be like, they're not good enough.
They're not economically attractive.
So there's going to be a lot of single women.
And correspondingly, there's going to be a lot of single men.
And yeah.
I mean, marriage rates are on the decline.
Divorce rate, by the way, divorce.
Here's a reason not to get married.
The divorce rate is fucking crazy.
And 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
Especially over the COVID lockdown.
The COVID lockdown spikes divorces because they're all trapped at home.
Yeah.
You need to know your partner.
Like, know your partner.
Yeah.
So also, like, don't enter into a contract or agreement when the other party is rewarded for breaking it.
If a woman wants to get divorced, she gets your money.
Just have a prenup sign.
Why don't you just get married and have a motherfucker?
Prenups get thrown out all the time.
A prenup will not protect you.
I think if done correctly.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of it's, I've heard a lot of stories like prenups.
Like, I think Dr. Dre had a prenup with, I don't know her name.
Do you know his wife's name?
Dr. Dre's wife, he had a prenup.
The prenup got thrown out.
And I assume Dr. Dre had exceptional attorneys when he got married.
He certainly could have afforded it.
So, yeah, you, I mean, if you're the breadwinner as a guy, I mean, you should not get married.
And if the woman's a breadwinner, she probably ain't dating you.
So there's that.
But yeah, I mean, women, it's not even women.
It's just whoever is not the breadwinner.
There's a very no, there's no fault divorce, right?
So they can just divorce you and then get alimony.
You'll have to pay this person who has just divorced you.
They're going to get the house.
They're going to, you know.
So I don't think people should get married.
By the way, what, like, don't get the government involved with your relationship.
Does anyone here trust the government?
No.
Then you're just putting money into lawyers' pockets.
So I'm not saying don't have a nuclear family.
I think it'd be great.
I think we should get back to having nuclear families, men and women staying together, raising kids.
But I think marriage is the way the laws are now, marriage is not good for men.
I think it depends on why you personally choose to get married.
So are you Christian?
Yes.
Okay, so I can see that.
So you have a religious component to it.
But.
Do you think marriage is better for men in the past?
I mean, marriage was better for men in the past, and I think for a couple of reasons.
I'm not super familiar on how the laws have changed when it comes to marriage.
But what I do know is that, broadly speaking, in the past, to be a divorcee or to get a divorce, especially within the religions, was severely frowned upon.
I think Catholics still like, probably, I mean, I don't know what's going on with Catholics, but it is severely frowned upon to get divorced.
But now, so that you had a social pressure to stay with that partner.
But now it's kind of willy-nilly, oh, you know, you're upset with them for this or that, and then, yeah.
You wanted to come in on this, maybe?
No?
No?
Okay.
I think we got to end it.
I want to end it with two videos.
Or wait, no, hold on.
I want to bring it back really quick to Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio.
Because I don't think we fully went into the age gap thing.
And I want to get into it.
Very briefly before we end the video, so men like younger women.
Do you guys object to that?
Y'all are too easy.
Come on.
Come on.
Devil's advocate me here a little bit.
Not all men.
I stand by what I said about the whole like guys think like cougars are hot and like milks are hot, but I do agree with what you said about the whole like 19 to 25.
I feel like it's like younger men like 20 to 28 like older, but then older men like 40s to 50s like younger.
I think it's also playing on that like you want what you can't have.
I mean you can't have it, but like it's not going to be as socially accepted to have it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean just to touch on the age gap thing.
So it comes down to a couple things.
And similar to the body count thing, it's also, oh, really quick on the body count.
So another reason why men value low body count than women is, and they've done studies on this, someone who's promiscuous is more likely to cheat on you.
And as far as marriages go, the more partners that you had before going into that marriage, the greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction and the greater likelihood of divorce.
And they've done analysis.
They've done studies on it.
So the higher your body count, and this is more so for women than it is for men, the greater likelihood of infidelity, the greater likelihood of the relationship breaking up, the divorce, and just the greater likelihood of relationship dissatisfaction.
Do you know what that same statistic is for men?
I'm not sure.
We do have the infographics.
Oh, wait, that reminds me.
Okay, Eric, we have to.
Age gap.
Okay, age gap really quick.
Then we have to react to a few things from Hinge, the dating app.
Okay, so there's an evolutionary thing for evolutionary reason why men have a preference for younger women.
So one of those things is fertility.
So something that, and this is evolutionary, biologically ingrained, men look for indicators of youth and fertility.
So if you're 40, the likelihood that you can one, get pregnant, two, bring that child to term, and three, have a healthy baby are so significantly diminished.
So it's an evolutionary thing.
We are just hardwired to find younger women attractive.
Keyword women there.
And because by the time you're 35, that's when you're starting to get into higher chance of miscarriage, higher chance that there's birth defects, and greater difficulty even just getting pregnant.
So there's evolutionary reasons there, and also it's just as a guy, you can also just think of it in your head.
Let's say you're 35.
Let's say you're 40 as a guy.
You can date a 40-year-old, and let's say you really want to have kids.
She's 40, like you're not having kids.
The likelihood is so small that you're going to be able to have kids with her.
So most men who are 40, they might be looking more towards someone who's 30, for example.
A guy who's 35 might be looking for someone who's 25.
But if we're being realistic in the pool of casually dating, how often are men looking at a younger woman and thinking, oh, she's the most fit to reproduce with and have kids with?
Like, that's only something you're thinking about if you're thinking about marrying this person or staying with this person long term.
So that is a fair point.
So, one, it is, so it is an evolutionary thing.
So, even though a guy can intellectually think, hey, I just want to hook up with this girl once, maybe she could be on birth control.
We're going to use a condom.
There's no chance or very low chance of a pregnancy here.
I don't want a kid.
It's still like, in our minds, it's still like we want someone who's young for fertility reasons in the same way that there are evolutionary things that women look for that if you were to intellectualize it, like this would have no bearing on this person in terms of them being a good partner for you.
For example, height is one.
I mean, we can go around really quick.
Articulate to me why, and maybe some of you don't have a height preference, but articulate to me why.
Well, first let me ask.
Do you, for a guy, do you care about his height?
Actually, wait, I just want to start over here first.
Just because you're biased, I just want to do you care about the guy's height?
I think we talked about this, actually.
So, you said your height or taller?
Yeah.
Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
Possible.
If we're really like a good match or like his really attractive personality and other, you know, yeah.
But it would be a bit of a con if he was shorter than you.
Yeah, just like physically, I just think, like, guys, yeah.
Okay, go ahead.
Uh, height does matter to an extent.
I think you see, I'm five, four and a half.
Five, five on a good day.
Okay.
As long as you're noticeably taller than me, I'm chilling.
I don't have like a, oh, you have to be at least 6'1.
Like, I think that's a little shallow.
But yeah, if I were, would I date someone shorter than me?
What's your minimum height for a guy?
Because you're 5'4.
What's your minimum height?
5'5'5.
Okay, hey, props.
Yeah.
Let me ask, just out of curiosity, how many, you've been in a long-term relationship before?
How many like relationships have you had?
Would you say?
Okay, what are we defining as relationships?
Like, let's just say you've seen a guy for a lot.
Okay, this isn't really a relationship, but of the guys that you've seen for longer than a month, let's just say, how many guys would you say?
Um four or five?
Nah, definitely only like one other guy.
One guy.
Well, the long-term relationship and then another guy.
Okay, how tall were they?
He was 5'10.
Okay.
My long-term relationship, he was probably around the same height, 5'9, 5'10.
Okay.
Height definitely matters to me, I think.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'11", so I'm very tall.
I think it doesn't matter if you're, you don't need to be like 6'5", 6'6", but as long as you're either...
I was gonna say 5'11 or above, but I think 6'3.
So at least an inch taller than me.
Okay.
So you'll be taller than the guy in heels.
That's okay.
Yeah, I don't really wear heels.
You don't care?
Okay.
That's fine.
Sydney?
No.
height doesn't matter to me because I'm five feet so like you're five feet yeah Yeah.
So I don't really know any guys that are shorter than me.
So what is the minimum height for you?
Like five.
I don't know.
Five, five is good.
Like it doesn't.
Height isn't something that I like look at when I see a guy, honestly.
The last guy you hooked up with, how tall was he?
5'7.
Okay.
Wait, are you currently in a relationship?
Yeah.
How tall is he?
6'3.
Okay.
There you go.
You are tall, though.
Yeah, I am.
I don't mind dating a guy who's like in my eyesight range.
Like if I can look to you eye to eye in a way I don't have to like bend down to see you, that's fine.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'8.5.
Well, God said that she was 5'8.5, so I feel like maybe I am shrinking, but I've dated shorter guys and they've just been insecure.
Like they'll have a problem when I wear heels, and I felt like if they could confidently like be with me and not feel weird about that without me having to sacrifice parts of myself, it would be okay.
But I feel like for taller women, it's harder to date short guys who are comfortable with that.
Okay, there's a whole lot of cap at this table.
I think if I was taller, no, I would definitely care a lot more about height, like have a requirement.
But being like an average height, I'm not too picky as long as you're taller.
I've gone on a date with a guy that was shorter than me.
And I'm five foot.
I have two.
So like that, that says something.
Like, you know, I don't.
For me, like, I'm in the gym every day.
I more so look at, like, if I'm looking appearance-wise, I like eyes, I like smiles, and I like a big back.
Like, that's what I...
A big back.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like a muscle back.
Because I used to bodybuild.
So when I was in those days, like, that's something that catches my eye.
Here's an easier question I can ask.
Would you, do you want your guy to be physically larger than you?
Yes.
Yes.
Or similar.
I like him lanky.
Oh, you know.
Lanky.
Be like a little skeleton.
Okay.
Either that or like a nice dad bot, but the in-between is where I'm going to be.
Those are two different things.
I know, it's weird.
I don't care about physically bigger, but at least stronger than me.
Stronger than you.
That's another one.
Do you want a guy who's physically stronger than you?
Yeah, definitely, because I'm pretty weak, I think.
Okay.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
I got it.
But so, I mean, all these things, you know, the height, being physically larger, being physically stronger, these things don't really have an impact on who this person is as a person and their ability to be a good partner to you.
So in that same vein, like, that's just how, as far as evolutionary, that's how men feel about age and body count.
But men also feel that way about our physical appearance.
Do they care if we're smaller than them for the most part or like fit?
Yeah, men care about, yeah, men care about that stuff too.
Sure.
Yeah, and I think that definitely overpowers the evil.
Like, I think you keep talking about the evolutionary part, but that's not something that we're actively thinking about.
You know what I mean?
No, but it's like innate.
Yeah, I understand that.
And it's innate for me to want to have as much kids as I can, to reproduce as much as I can.
How many kids do you want?
Six.
Six kids.
Okay.
I'm going to have some tall babies, though.
I'm going to be a competition.
Oh, shit.
Nice.
Good.
No, that's good.
And it seems like your head's definitely in the right place as far as, I mean, you know, it sounds like you want to have a family, a husband.
So six kids.
Congrats.
That's a lot.
Did you?
How does the evolutionary aspect work when it comes to like to age?
No, just like me, because I like boys and girls.
So like evolution-wise, there shouldn't be much that attracts me to other women.
Well, I'm not saying that our biology or our evolution is the sole determining factor.
And it's evident that there are people that are not straight.
I mean, I think that's, you know, duh.
So I don't.
So I feel like we should have something else to be defining what makes us behave in a certain way socially and romantically.
Because at the end of the day, that's like it doesn't work well in multiple cases.
Well, I would talk about the straight.
So, I mean, I would say that that is an outlier situation, though, to be bisexual.
I mean, if you line up most people, most people are heterosexual.
And most people probably fall fairly into line with, I mean, if you ask most women, most women are going to say, I would like to date a guy who's taller.
And I think if you ask most men, they're going to say, I want someone that's younger and has a low body count.
These are making me sad to date.
Why does it make you sad?
Like, I'm a relationship girl.
I like to be in a relationship, but everything, like the whole body care out standards, like this, this, this, like, it's, damn.
There's guys that don't care.
I know, but not even just about the body count.
It's just like, there's so much.
It's like stacking up.
It's like, I'm never going to, I'm never going to date at this point.
Shit.
It's making me sad.
What specifically is making you sad?
Just everything.
It's just like it's all stacking up.
It's like, oh, well, guys want this, and like girls have this and this standard, and this standard, and this.
And it's like, you have to fit all of this in like one person.
Well, I mean, I would actually argue that men have very, very few standards.
Yeah, but you have to be able to find what you want in a person.
I'm sorry.
But okay, you disagree.
Go ahead.
I very much disagree.
So you think men have too high expectations?
I think men have more standards in the sense of in physical standards, but I think women have more standards pertaining to the magic.
This is going to be a hot take.
I actually disagree with you on that.
You think that men have?
I think women have higher physical standards for men than do men have for women.
I agree.
And I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
So there's two metrics that men have to meet that women don't really have to compete on.
So for example, height, right?
So men don't, men will date a woman who's tall.
They'll date a short.
I mean, most tall women aren't going to date a guy shorter than them, but like they would, I'm six feet.
I'll date a girl who's 6'5.
I don't care.
I will say I do have a preference for short women.
If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
But I'll date a woman who's 5'9.
I'll date a woman who's 5'4 ⁇ , I'll date a woman who's 4'11, right?
Height, we don't care.
So, right there, that's already a metric.
I've just experienced so much of the opposite, especially growing up.
Yeah.
That, like, it kind of feels like just based off my height, like, I'm off the field for a lot of guys.
I feel like that's also a maturity thing, though.
Like, we're in college.
Like, guys are weird.
Height is, like, very low on the totem pole of a reason why a guy would disqualify a woman.
And there's a much wider range of what.
Okay, so there's height.
There's also penis size.
That's that's a thing, right?
That's that's another bodily metric.
But we can't tell that until we're fucking you.
Yeah, but if it ain't, if it, I mean, there's some you better learn how to make it work.
For a lot of women, if it's uh, sometimes it's not up to anyways, um, it's kind of like the same, like uh breasts and things like that.
You can't help it.
There's some nice, but like what'd you say?
With breasts.
Guys don't care.
We don't really, well, we're happy if they're small.
Actually, I prefer smaller breasts, but guys careful.
Big boobs are nice too.
Ass, that is true.
I think guys are like a nice ass.
But, you know, okay, so we can go around really quick on this.
So does size matter?
Talking about the peen.
No, because I could be fine if you didn't have one.
There's other ways to make it a girl.
I should have started over here.
There's other ways to make a girl.
You chose the wrong girl for that.
Yeah, go ahead, Sydney.
No, it doesn't matter to me.
I mean, like she said, like there's.
Size doesn't matter.
No, like there's other ways like we can do like other things.
Like it doesn't.
What if he doesn't want to go down on you?
Yeah.
How are you?
No.
Okay, we can talk about that.
Red flag no matter what.
Really quick, let's finish that off.
Does size matter?
No, I wouldn't.
No.
I'm going to say it.
Yeah.
You don't have to be like Mandingo, but like, you got to have something.
Like, something.
There's like other ones, though.
I know.
I know there's other ways, but like, me personally, I need you to have a little package.
What?
A little package.
Not a little package.
Not a big package.
what can you can you give us like uh to the camera like where's the camp Which one?
That one?
Put it on.
Okay.
Why is it curved?
I wasn't going to ask you anything.
I'm curving your girl.
You're curving.
Anyways.
Can we.
Where are we at?
What is that?
Like five?
That's like six?
That's average.
Yeah.
Six is average.
Six is your body size.
Okay.
Yeah, average is fine.
Sorry.
Girth?
Girth?
Okay.
Go ahead.
Me, for me, it doesn't matter.
The first thing is, like, I don't think I have much experience and knowledge about it.
And then another thing.
Yes, I would say.
And another thing is I think the more important is about like feeling the, you know, like the little touch and stuff is more important than that.
Okay.
So I want to touch on a couple things, but just to wrap up the talk about how I think I challenge you on me thinking that women actually are more picky physically than men are.
Here's my argument.
The body fat percentage range that men will find attractive in women is far wider than the body fat percentage range that women find attractive in men.
So for example, for women, you have like petite, thin, like rare, like model chicks, rail thin, I don't know.
All the way to like thick, curvy.
That's a very wide range, whereas for a man to be like for his body to be physically attractive.
I think that body fat range is bigger for y'all towards us because our fat, just like our asses being fat is attractive to you.
So that body fat percentage goes up automatically.
But that's why I'm saying the body fat percentage range that men find attractive in women, it's a wider range than the body fat percentage range that women find attractive in men.
And that makes sense.
Do you see what I'm saying?
So are you just proving my point or are you, I'm just confused?
No, I'm saying it makes sense that the body fat percentage range is bigger for you guys.
Like towards us.
Okay.
Because our fat distributes differently.
Like our thighs being thick, you might like.
But like if I'm like, I might not like you having thick thighs, but that's attractive to you on us.
If you get what I mean.
So you agree with me?
Sure.
Okay.
Did you want to come in?
I'm going to be honest.
I wasn't initially attracted to like dad bots and things like that or men who are a little bit heavier.
But once I gave it a chance, I realized that there was really no big difference.
In fact, I kind of like it just for the cuddle's sake.
Because there's more of you.
But I know that not everybody is that way.
Word?
Word.
Word.
Okay.
So, where were we?
We were talking about...
Leonardo DiCaprio.
And then we got on penis high.
Well, yeah, okay, so the other thing is, as far as the age thing goes, if she's younger, probably body count's going to be lower too.
She's also just going to be more physically attractive.
And also, if she's younger, she's going to be less jaded.
So a woman who's 35, trust me, I've dated some of them.
They're jaded as fuck.
What do you mean by jaded?
Jaded.
Like, how many times has their heart been broken?
And they've got, you know, and just tired.
So, okay.
We're going to move off of that.
We went a bit long.
We're going to wrap up very soon.
Watch us go another 30 minutes.
I brought this up before.
And y'all kind of freaked out a little bit.
Is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
What?
Is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
What does exactly mean deal breaker?
Yeah, let her do that.
Let her.
A little deal breaker.
It's like a red flag, immediately a red flag.
You don't want to date her.
She breaks the dead.
She meant deal breaker.
She breaks the deal.
Do you know what going down on you means?
No, yeah, yeah.
No.
I don't understand why that would be a raft lag, but yeah, no.
So the guy doesn't want to go down on you?
You don't mind?
Yeah.
Okay.
Deal breaker.
That he doesn't want to or that he doesn't.
Both.
I think if he doesn't, it's not an immediate deal breaker for me, but if he doesn't want to, that's a deal breaker.
Because what?
Yeah.
Can I add something like, yeah, I'll understand.
Yeah, that's a deal breaker.
That's a little kind of weird.
Okay.
I think it's a deal breaker 100%.
Only if I'm, if you expect me to go down or like to give you head and you're not willing to return it, then I think it's a deal breaker.
Especially if I'm in a committed relationship with you.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But I'm also like, oh, how am I going to expose myself?
I'm like, like it should be like a freaky relationship.
Like if we're dating, like, I want all of it.
Like, why, you know?
No, I'm with you.
Yeah, like I want all of it.
Like, and I'm like always down to give it, but like, if you're not, like, doing it too, like.
It's fun.
Like, I'm not going to be mad at you if you don't want to do it.
No, I am going to be mad, but like, I'm not going to stop myself from doing it because I think it's fun.
I agree.
I think it's fun to do it, but like, don't ex don't be.
Yeah.
Yeah, you have to be able to eat pussy.
That's just like it's just, it's for a lot of women, that's the only way that they can even come.
So, like, if you're not eating pussy and you're into women, you're doing something wrong.
Yeah, I feel like you should find pleasure in pleasure.
Like, aren't you attracted to that?
Yeah.
Or I don't know.
I just think it's weird.
Like, what are you afraid of it?
I actually know some guys, some of my friends have mentioned this to me.
When they're doing hookups, they refuse to go down on a girl unless it's in a relationship.
I've heard that too.
That I don't understand.
What's up?
I don't get it.
I really don't understand the point of it.
I understand that.
I don't.
I get it.
I get it.
I don't.
I'll tell you why.
Yeah.
I'll tell you why.
Because, like, you'll make out with this random chick at a party who's like sucking on her nick, but like, you won't.
Who's what?
Who's like on her nick?
Nick nicotine, right?
Oh, nice.
Vape?
I don't do that, so I don't know.
But like, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
That to me is weird.
I will tell you why.
I'll tell you why guys don't want to.
I mean, in that specific scenario, they don't want to do it just some hookup or they want to wait until they're in a relationship.
Kind of goes back to what I was saying.
At least with me.
By the way, I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
So when was that?
Oh, my God.
2008?
Oh, okay.
I was thinking that's you.
2008.
No.
Yeah, no pun intended.
No pun intended.
Have you been in any relationship?
I've been in multiple long-term relationships.
Do you do something other than do you like foreplay?
You do it?
Yeah.
Oh, she comes first.
So every time.
Then that would be fine.
Then I take it back.
If that happens, then it's not a deal breaker.
Okay.
But it's a nice treat.
Like, if you want me to suck your dick, you better.
You know?
Well, so, okay.
Yeah, no, I have not gone down on a girl in a long time.
No offense.
One, neck problems, you know.
Oh, my God.
Neck problems.
You know, but I honestly just never really super enjoyed it, to be honest.
And I do other things.
Hands, toys, other things.
Anyways, but okay.
The reason guys don't want to do it is, bro, if you're fucking, like, the dating meta is people are sleeping around a lot.
So in the same way, how I didn't want to sleep with a girl, if she's sleeping with somebody else, how I find that disgusting, it's almost worse to go down on a girl if she's fucking another guy.
You disagree.
But yeah, the thought of me going down on a girl and a guy came in her the night before, sorry.
To me, that's gross.
I can see that.
It just can't possibly be the case for the millions of men out there who don't want to eat pussy.
Like, I know they're not all thinking this girl must have fucked a guy last night, so I don't want to eat her out.
Like, no, you think pussy is gross, and I think you need to do some self-evaluation on whether you really like it.
Listen, as a fan of pussy, by the way, all labia matter.
Can we get, can we, can we, hold on, I gotta pull up the thing.
Support my nonprofit, the American Network, against labia plastin.
All labia matter?
Okay.
What was the question?
There must be, that can't be the case for all men who are.
Oh, men are just gross up.
I mean, yeah, sure.
I guess there are some guys that.
I mean, I've heard girls say they think dicks are weird.
They hate the taste of calm.
I get it, you know.
But my big thing is the way the dating landscape is today, the dating meta, as I like to call it, people are sleeping with a bunch of other people.
Like, you have to, you have to go in assuming that they're fucking at least one other person.
At least one other person.
I know some, I've heard from girls, they're like, Yeah, I got a roster.
I got three or four guys.
I'm like, bruv.
Okay, the thought of me, the thought of me going down on a girl that's fucking another guy.
It just, no, I'm not going to do it.
Do you want to go?
Go ahead.
Might have the same question.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay, so when a girl has a roster, not all of the players have the same function.
So I may have a roster, but I'm only having sex with one.
The other one, but you hear what I'm saying.
They don't all serve the same purpose.
What do you mean by serve the same purpose?
So I may have, I may talk to one man, and I like having sex with him.
I may talk to another man, and I enjoy just hanging out with him because I think he's super cool.
Hate me if you want.
And then you're going to have to do it.
You have one guy for dinner who pays for your dinner.
No, I like to cook.
But there are girls like that.
They like to have certain men to buy them food.
They know there's a guy who will pay for their hair and nails.
They know there's a guy that will drive them places.
That's how some rosters were using their access.
There are chicks that in their phone, they save the guy's name as Uber.
It looks like jersey numbers.
Jersey numbers?
What's that?
So like your Uber.
Like your basketball team.
Who comes up first?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, so, I don't know, to me, a lot of girls be fucking multiple guys at the same time.
Props to them.
I don't know how they can manage that, though.
That's a lot of juggling.
To be fair, I don't trust all tongues from men because y'all be.
It goes the same way, right?
Like, you never know.
And you know what?
I can understand your point when it comes to random hookups because, like, I'm definitely not going to give head to a guy if I just met him because who knows?
But at the same time, like, we should always be striving to be safe.
And so I understand that in that like one hookup situation, you have a condom, you might not have one of those, like, because there are condoms for like eating people out, but you probably don't have it on you.
Most people don't.
So word.
But if it's an established relationship, I think if you haven't tried it before, give it a shot.
Practice, guys.
It's not hard.
There's porn videos on how to do it.
We all had to learn somewhere.
I don't know.
I think a lot of guys have neck pain, to be honest.
Oh, my God.
Have her sit on your face then.
Duh.
Just lay there.
Come on.
Yeah.
Is it a deal breaker for you if a girl doesn't want to give you a head?
When you're dating her?
No.
I've definitely had situations.
What was the look?
I mean, I've definitely had situations where I've, you know, it's clear, like, hey, I'm not really into going down on a girl.
Obviously, I'm not going to give her the whole Bush administration quip.
I'm going to try to do it a bit more tactfully.
But, yeah, I mean, I just, I don't enjoy it.
There's a couple of reasons why I don't like to do it.
Also, even if you are in a relationship, there's infidelity.
People cheat.
So sounds like you put it down in other ways, though.
So it's okay.
We're not going to be able to do it.
No, like 100%.
Like, my goal, like, I want the girl to come before me.
And so, multiple times, if possible.
So it's not that hard.
I mean, I got it figured out.
Okay.
But, anyways, what was the question?
Oh, is it a deal breaker if she doesn't go down on me?
No, it's not a deal breaker because I kind of get it.
Like, if I'm not going down on her, she wants the reciprocity.
I kind of get it.
I don't necessarily think, though, that just because I don't feel comfortable doing something, that she has to be comfortable.
She has to be uncomfortable doing it too.
Does that make sense?
So, in the same way that there could be all sorts of differences of what one person is comfortable with and what one other person isn't comfortable with.
So, it's fair.
Yeah.
Okay, we're going to watch one video to wrap it up.
Yeah, numb, never eat your girl out because she might cheat, right?
Or I think he might actually be trolling me there.
I think so.
He's like, the fuck.
Honey, go get your neck brace.
Okay, so, hmm.
Oh, we got a super chat here.
Andrew Tate with the 99.
I don't know what currency that is.
I'll DM these women when I get my Insta back.
Okay, there you go.
Well, you know what?
While we have Mr. Tate here, we're going to just react to one video.
We've watched it a few times before on the stream, guys.
Oh, wait, no, sorry.
Okay, we got to get through the.
Okay, we'll watch the tape video.
Eric, can you go to window mode?
We'll wrap, guys, very soon.
Control tab over.
There we go.
Okay, so I saw this on Hinge the other day.
I don't know if you guys are familiar with Hinge.
It's a dating app, and there's prompts in it.
So I saw this.
Green flags I look for.
Someone with a yacht.
And the rest of her profile was just talking about how much she wanted to go on a boat, how much she wanted to go on a yacht.
Blah, Do you think, let's say you were a guy in this situation and you saw this, Eric, you can go ahead and just bring it back.
If you saw that, would you.
Is that a bad look?
Yeah.
All right.
So I always tell my friends, if I was a guy, like, I would honestly be a manipulator.
Like, I'm not even about to lie.
But, so if I had a yacht and I saw that, I'm like, all right, Cha-Ching, like, I can fuck with this girl.
Like, not to.
Just being honest.
But if I don't have a yacht and I see that, what percentage of men do you think have yachts?
Oh, like, I don't know, like, yeah, pretty low.
Maybe 9%.
9% of men have yachts.
You think 9% of men have yachts?
Is that 9%?
9%.
I don't think yachts are very common.
I can't afford a yacht.
I don't know.
But no, you think that's a good idea.
We're inside a bar.
It's like less than 9%.
You think 9% of men have yachts.
So out of 100 men, 9 of them have yachts.
Out of how many?
Out of 100 men, 9 of them have yachts.
Yacht.
All right, yacht.
How about four?
I'm saying pretty low.
It's going to be one or less than one.
Go ahead.
Actually, pull it back up real quick.
Okay.
Someone with a yacht, and by the way, I blacked out her eyes a bit.
This is the real girl?
This is the girl.
Did you find her yourself?
Huh?
Did you find her yourself?
Yeah, this is a girl I saw in Santa Barbara.
I took a screenshot of this and I was like, the fuck, bruv?
So, okay, not to talk shit on her, but like, you're looking at her, right?
Do you think she's deserving of a guy with a yacht?
If she wasn't.
Does she look like the type of guy, or sorry, the type of girl that can command a guy with a yacht?
That can get a guy with a yacht.
Go ahead, bring it back, Eric.
Maybe.
I don't think she's commanding.
She's saying what she wants.
And if you have it, you have it.
And if you're attracted to her, hit her up.
If not, that's fine.
Okay, well, you know what?
I live at my parents' house.
I play video games all day.
I'm overweight and I smoke weed.
I want a Victoria's secret model.
Do you think I'm going to get her?
No.
You're probably not going to get her.
It's delusional.
And I wish her the best of luck.
It's delusion.
But okay, give your reaction.
I don't think it's possible.
For her.
She does.
Your hair is very similar to hers, by the way.
Oh, oh my god.
But I mean, like, it is possible, but like, I don't know.
It's kind of like a match thing.
Like, your energy needs to match with what you want.
Do you think she has, I can get a guy with a yacht energy?
I mean, just based off of yourself.
if you work on get improvement um you know if she's bold enough to put that in her like dating profile i think that says like she's a go-getter Like, she's going to get what she wants.
She can party it up.
Like, yacht.
I think she's reaching.
Maybe it's a conversation starting.
You're by.
Was she attractive?
Like, I know her eyes are blacked out, but do you think she's good looking?
Just being objectional, and everybody has their own taste, but no, I don't think she was.
I wouldn't have swiped right on her.
I don't have a yacht either.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
To me, it's just like that blows my mind.
And I see that shit a lot.
Like, oh, they fill in all three of the prompts.
Green flag, I look for someone with a yacht.
I'm really, you know, something else about a yacht.
I want a guy with a boat.
I want a guy with a boat.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's just like.
I think that was a trend this summer.
Y'all finessing.
I saw that.
Men do that all the time, but they're like, I want a big booty light skin.
But you're looking like something else.
There's definitely guys that are delusional too, 100%.
Very often.
But I think guys are more like guys when they know when they're not it, I think for the most part.
Yeah, they do.
They just don't admit it, but they know.
Guys know.
Because they don't get compliments.
They know.
They know when they can't pull and they know when they're overreaching.
What props to overreaching?
Yeah, I mean, here's the other reason for that: is that women, you can sleep with men that are, let's say, outside of your league that are more attractive than you, but those men are not going to ever commit to you.
Whereas most men, they can't sleep outside of their league.
Most men have to date down.
So you can, like, a lot of you could hook up with a guy who's more attractive than you are.
Let's just say, like, your equivalent.
He's more attractive.
But he's probably not going to commit to you.
And that's kind of what's going on with dating apps.
You got basically 80% of the women are competing for 20% of the men.
And so they have an abundance of choice.
So then why would they settle down with one woman when they could just run through a bunch of chicks?
Okay.
We're going to pull up some other hinge clips.
Just control tab over.
So this is a trend that I've been seeing on Hinge of people responding to the I'm the type of text or who hinge prompt.
And it's usually something like, I'll respond right away or in two to three business days.
And y'all think y'all so original.
Hit control tab again.
Okay.
Hit control tab again.
Applies two to five business days later.
Okay, again, two seconds or two days.
Okay, again.
Or in seven.
Okay.
I think there might be two more.
Keep going.
Okay, keep going.
How many are there?
Okay, one more, I think.
Anyways, you can bring it back, Eric.
So.
Do you want the truth with that?
Yeah, what is going on there?
Are they just trying to be clever?
Because that shit is...
No, it's not clever.
It's more so for me at least.
Like, if I'm, I only have Tinder, right?
But if I'm like ziping on Tinder and I'm just like bored, I'm looking, I'll be swiping on a lot of guys I think are handsome.
And then if they actually like DM me like a day or two later and it's like midday and I'm not wanting to have a conversation, it's just like, oh, you were cute when I was like at like 12 o'clock at night when I was bored.
But now it's like two o'clock and I'm at school.
And I see that their response, I'm not going to respond until I'm like bored again, which is super shitty, but it's true.
It's shitty.
But most of the time, I just don't even respond.
I just, excuse me, I just don't understand like putting that in a dating profile where I assume you're trying to put your best foot forward and present it.
I'm not sure if they like do that, but it's like also being like, you can tell like if those women like message you like immediately, it's just like they're super into you.
They're super finding you attractive.
But then if they if they like mention stuff like that, it's just kind of like they're so like aloof and they're so like not.
Yeah, like to me as a guy, when I see that, my thought process is one, why would you put that in your profile?
Because you're basically communicating that you're a shit communicator.
Yeah.
Which is a turnoff.
And maybe I'm not going to get that treatment, but why would you like, and I don't know if you saw the ages on some of them.
Like there's a 31-year-old woman.
There's like a most of them were like probably mid-20s.
Like I could understand that shit from someone who's like young.
I don't.
You're on your phone all the time.
But like someone who's fucking, who's older, like saying this shit as a guy, and by the way, if you guys are in the chat, like, I don't know if any of you are on dating apps, you've seen those types of messages.
I'm the type of texter who either responds right away or in three to five business days.
I've also seen the shit where it's like, you know, oh, I see the text, I respond in my head, and then get upset when the guy doesn't text me.
I'm like, bro, are you that inept of a fucking communicator that you can't even figure it out?
And maybe some girls think it's like cute or whatever to put that in there, but like, I don't see that as cute.
I don't think you're cute.
I think you're annoying.
Go ahead.
Your thoughts on that?
I mean, yeah, I just don't think you can put other your hobbies in your interest rather than I don't think it's like have any valid information for about you know finding a person you want to date or something but I'm the type of person like either text back immediately or Never, never respond again.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely like, you know, you give your, give a guy a number and you're just not really feeling it, and you're just curving him.
I get that.
I just don't understand.
Like, I understand, like, a girl not really being responsive to a guy she's not interested in.
get that but advertising it on a dating profile to me is just like what It's just weird.
Y'all goofy.
Okay.
I was literally going to say goofy.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I mean, like, I feel like a lot of people are like that.
They don't respond, whatever.
But I think, yeah, presenting it in a dating profile, like you're there to talk to people.
So, I mean, I think it's just they're using it as like an excuse for whoever they match with.
If I don't text you right away, well, I told you, so don't be mad.
That's a really good point.
Really good point.
Yeah, I agree.
It's pretty childish, but it could be their way of letting them know.
Yeah, I think it's stupid.
We shouldn't put that.
I feel like on Tinder would be fine, but not Hinge, because Hinge is like specifically for dating.
It's a bit more serious.
Yeah, so you should be taking it seriously if that's what you want to do.
If not, get on a different app.
That's the only thing I'd say.
Okay, cool.
I think we'll just get to the video and then wrap it up.
Eric, we're gonna pulling up Mr. Andrew Tate.
Pepper your oh, go ahead, Eric.
Hide that.
And then we'll just do the, I mean, I know we've watched it a ton of times.
I mean, we could do, here, we'll watch two really quick.
We'll do promiscuity and then we'll go right into body count.
Okay, prepare to get offended or not.
I've never seen one of his videos before.
Have you got, okay, so you guys go ahead and go ahead, play it.
Have you had a serious relationship?
I have many concurrent serious relationships as we speak.
Are you Pauli?
No, because that means they can talk to other dudes.
That's fucking haram.
That's atrocious.
That's disgusting.
Throughout the majority of human history, female promiscuity has been absolutely frowned upon.
Only in the Western world we're going to pretend it's an okay thing.
Every single culture since the dawn of human time and every single place on the planet has said that female promiscuity is disgusting to the point where females were executed for it.
In most of the world today, they should be.
Get the rocks.
Abdul?
Yeah, get the rocks.
Get the rocks.
In most of the world today, it's still frowned upon.
It's unacceptable.
Whereas every single king insulted and sheikh since the dawn of human time had multiple women.
Men are allowed multiple women.
Women are not allowed multiple men because if a woman has multiple men, you cannot ensure paterning.
I can walk and have 10 wives behind me.
That's perfectly acceptable.
So if a woman has 10 men, it's disgusting.
Absolutely vile.
Okay, I want to get your guys' reaction to that really quick, and then we'll watch his other one.
By the way, that's Andrew Tate's words, not mine.
Go ahead.
Can I do, can I go after?
yeah um andrew tate is a i'm not a fan of him I feel like a lot of his personality is like to get attention.
So I think, yes, he has misogynistic views, but I feel like as I watch his videos and his content, I feel like he's really exaggerating it to get the backlash and all that stuff because he feeds off of it.
And you know, it's smart from a marketing perspective.
Like, you're getting all of this traction on your page.
I get it.
But it's like, dude, if you really think like that, like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His, like, that might be the first video I've seen of him too, but I think that's.
That was a rough introduction.
Yeah.
If that's really how he thinks, I feel like it's so far.
I can't even, I wouldn't even be able to have a conversation with him because I couldn't take him seriously.
Like, there's no way you think all these things.
I think he's definitely trolling.
And if he's not.
I don't even know.
Sydney?
He makes me uncomfortable.
Just like, yeah.
I feel like Andrew Tate would try really hard to piss me off, but then the fact that I'm like kind of everything that he hates about women, I think that would just end up pissing him off more.
But I think it's interesting.
I think we're going to see kind of a counterculture to this idea of like a woman has to be with one man, but a man can have ten women.
Well, now we have the idea of like rosters.
We have, you know, rap artists, female rap artists who are talking about sex in a way that men have been talking about sex with women for years.
So in a way, you're just creating what you hate, if that makes sense.
Because people are going to push back into the extreme because of this.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, like, for me, I just think the way he talks is so like aggressive.
It's kind of, I don't know, it's kind of like dramatic or something.
Even though I just, I don't admit like the thing he says about women mostly.
Yeah.
Another thing, like, Andrew Tate, like, I know, obviously, he's more than just a misogynist.
Like, I know he's a very successful entrepreneur, businessman, whatever it is.
And what bothers me most is like he has this platform and like he has all these opportunities for end user and things like that.
And so he's reaching such a big audience of very like impressionable boys and it's just like, oh my gosh, like please do not tell me this is the man who you're looking up to.
Because like not only are they getting advice from him for like money and status and all that, so I feel like a lot of people will interpret his actions and his words as things like they should do in order to reach that type of status.
Sure.
I super agree with that.
Like Logan Paul, I think one of the Paul brothers mentioned that like it's fuck Logan Paul.
What'd you say?
Fuck Logan Paul.
One of them mentioned that it's terrifying.
Like if this is like, you know, everyone has their influencers, but if our like 12-year-old boys are like watching him and being like, oh, okay, well, like, women shouldn't have to do this and women shouldn't, like, it's going to take us back so many years that it is.
It's terrifying.
Like, women just got, like, we're going through like the whole like Roe v. Wade bullshit right now.
Like, and he's just like, I don't know, he just, he scares me.
He is a, I don't, he's a scary person to have to like influence our young generation.
Next video.
Yeah, I mean, so you do have to question, though, why is it that his message, and he's certainly said some very controversial things.
Why is it that Andrew Tate's message is resonating so much with men?
Because I think I think Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate, is really the pendulum swinging the other way on basically.
I don't want to get too much into a debate on feminism, but feminism is basically promoted this.
There's a lot of man-hating.
And Andrew Tate is sort of the reaction, the response to that.
She doesn't like that one.
I'm going to be honest.
I think he's very similar to Ben Shapiro in a way.
If you go back to the 2016 Trump era, I remember in high school, I kind of fell into that anti-estate.
Are you based?
I wouldn't say that, but I have experience.
You're bi.
So do you.
I don't know.
I don't even know where I'm going with that.
But go ahead.
Sorry.
So just basically, I can see like He is able to take these concepts of morality and the idea of like people should be a specific way, or like if a woman wants my respect, she needs to be a very specific way.
He's taking that idea and then he's just like kind of bringing examples that are just like more and more ridiculous and it becomes this giant like modern woman hate train when in reality like women have been promiscuous for years.
Men have been just as promiscuous for years.
Like affairs have been happening for years.
Women have been wanting to show more skin for years.
When you say years, what do you mean?
Do you mean since like the 1960s?
Just through the progression of time and through the progression of history, you see an increase in, well, it depends on where you're at because you're always going to have that counterculture.
But as things have been progressing through history, people have just been becoming less moral.
In terms of like religious morality, people are separated from that.
A lot of people don't grow up with religion in the home anymore.
And like me, I grew up with religion.
And for a long time, I was very afraid of having sex.
I thought literally I would be smited on sight.
But obviously that hasn't stopped me.
That hasn't stopped me from being who I am now.
So like doesn't matter whether or not you have those morals, you know?
Sure.
I might not start in OnlyFans, but I'm still fucking.
So to some guy, I'm like super moral because I won't sell pictures of my body.
But to another one, because I have had sex with multiple people, like I'm a slut.
So it's really just whose eyes you're viewing it in, but it is dangerous because there's a lot of young men who are looking at this through his eyes.
Yes.
That's awesome.
That was a good take.
Appreciate that.
Appreciate that.
Okay.
I don't know where we were with all that.
Let's just pull up the other clip here.
So we're going to do the body count one and then we're going to wrap up, guys.
I know we've gone about.
55th times you said you're going to wrap it up.
I know.
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
Should we wait for Sydney?
Composite?
Sorry, should we wait for Sydney?
Yeah, yes.
Here, just bring it back for 30 seconds.
If she's not back, then we'll start it.
So just going back to Tate on everything.
So where were we?
Did you guys have anything else on Tate?
No, no.
I mean, like, my main issue really is the hypocrisy of it all.
Like, I'm pretty sure Andrew Tate isn't, he's not loyal to one girl.
I mean, if he is, then he's probably.
He's got multiple chicks.
Yeah, he's probably gone through relationships.
So it's just like, I don't know, don't come for women so hard if you're not doing the same thing.
Yeah, well, so he believes he believes that the double standard is justified for the reasons he's explained.
He kind of, kind of explained in that video.
I disagree.
But anyways, we're going to react to this last final video.
Eric, if you can go ahead and pull it up.
Go ahead.
So attractive about younger women because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
I don't actually think it's that.
I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you get married, you'd be together, whatever, whatever.
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
I don't care how nice you are.
You're 33 years old.
How many men have fun?
If I got a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
Like, well, my last man cheat.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, I don't care.
Like, why is that my problem?
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
They've had more fucking rides, more spins.
I don't want that shit.
When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
And also, no, but no, but the truth is this: women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her feel and it's unattractive.
But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really gonna think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special, or she's gonna think, you know, like he talked to me, Rudolph, it's gonna get a new guy.
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you, be a better partner.
The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
You know what?
This is the guy.
I like him.
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
Women fall in love with the person who loses their virginity to or their second or third guy.
They really remember them.
They really love them.
Anyone who's slept with 50 dudes she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
She's more likely to just say, you know what new answer is new dating.
That's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
Let me make something clear.
If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
That's pretty fucking old.
Yeah 30, I know what are you crazy?
I, there's been times I was drunk, oh my god yes okay uh, reaction to that video, it just I.
The only thing I can say is the attitude and the words he said.
It just make people so uncomfortable because basically like, he's judging like a girl based on her body count and I, I don't know, I just I just it's just a really attractive behavior and also really offensive.
I think yeah, I think it relates back to the whole age gap discussion because, how he pointed out, like younger girls um, are easier to penetrate into their brains and all that stuff.
It's just uh, I think a lot of his views are are standing on the the mindset that like, men are supposed to be like in control over women and all that and it's, I think it's just very like a toxic mindset.
Um yeah, I have the same reaction.
Like I can't, I just can't even believe what i'm saying.
I genuinely like I don't even.
I don't even like want to like speak on him.
It's so disgusting that like it honestly, like it makes it seem like we're property, like women are property.
It's disgusting, it makes me uncomfortable.
But he's talking about body count.
He's, he's basically women in general makes me uncomfortable.
Anything that he has to say he's just like, oh, I want a woman with, like I want a young female because that's how I know that she hasn't been touched.
Like I don't.
It makes me uncomfortable.
He also said it was easier to manipulate them into falling in love, which I think is like property point.
It makes me feel like that's it just.
It terrifies me that, like men have that mindset about women, like how you mentioned that, like women are making more money than men nowadays.
And he's like, oh, like this, like you can't do this, you can't.
It's scary your thoughts.
Just honestly guys, by acting in those ways of being like overly masculine and like playing women, you basically create the women that you're like insulting.
Now, like I use myself an example, I think I started off very naive, very pure-minded and very innocent in which I thought that the guy I lost my virginity to I genuinely thought it was gonna be something and it just, you know, wasn't like that.
And then I found myself in similar situations where it was like I keep going for these like dickbag guys, and then you could say oh, it's your type, but then that again, like it's so many guys, it's like okay, at this point, I feel like this is just how men are, and then at that point, you start learning to play the game yourself, and then it does become yes, that man is replaceable.
So like I'm less willing to stick in a relationship that isn't giving me what I need, because there are plenty of other men who will do it for me.
And like same thing with lowering my standards.
Like I've been with shorter men, I've been with taller men, I've been with fatter men, I've been with skinnier men, and fuck if you, if you're not shit, you're not shit.
Like it doesn't matter what you have.
You could be rich, you could be poor.
So at the end of the day, like it's really important to just like be a good fucking person and don't hurt people, otherwise they're gonna hurt other people and will be in this toxic cycle forever.
That's all word.
That was, that was good, that was good.
Yeah, so, I mean, I don't know if you guys really addressed, though, his main argument, which was about body count.
Well, the point that I got was that he said a woman who's had sex with more people was more likely to replace you.
Yes.
And, like, not stick it out through a tough period.
And be less likely to, yeah.
But, like, that doesn't matter.
I've been in long-term relationships.
I mean, he's basically echoing a lot of the things that I said earlier on.
I don't know if you guys recall I was saying something like a girl who's been with a hundred guys.
Like it came down to, like short-term pleasure seeking and then versus long-term or delayed gratification, someone who's had a lot of sexual partners.
They're uh, less likely to be able to pair bond with you correctly.
They're less likely to fall in love with you, to be able to fall in love with you, to fall in love with you deeply.
So he just says it a different way than I do.
So I think that's what offends people.
But like you don't even believe in marriage.
So at what point does like, that love aspect really matter these days?
Is love even true now?
Or is you choosing to be with them?
Don't go down that road, don't go down choosing to be with them.
Well, I mean, you can be in love with someone and not marry them, but when it comes to this idea of like you fuck around, then you're gonna have a harder time, you know, falling in love with somebody, I don't think that's true.
I don't think that's true.
If you, if somebody's slept with like 100, 200 people, their ability to fall in love with someone is probably fairly damaged shit.
Maybe they know that that's exactly what they want.
Like, like.
For me, it's Like you could be, there's gonna be so many other people to have sex with, but I chose you.
You know what I mean?
I've had sex with other people.
I chose you at the end of the day, and like I'm continuing to choose you.
I think that's the part that matters.
And I think like women with high body count, it's not always like, oh, she's a slut.
Like, that's why she's fucking like, no, like, people have sex to explore, figure out what they like, what they don't like.
I think where Andrew Tate stands is a fear of not having control over the woman, and that's what is like really triggering him.
So that's the scary part.
Yeah.
I think he just doesn't.
He probably, for some of the exact same reasons that I laid out why body count matters, it's why it matters to him too.
I think body count matters more to men than it does to women.
I agree with you on that.
Which is very weird.
Why is it weird?
There are plenty of things that women value in men.
No, in the reverse, like men don't care.
Like height.
For example.
Absolutely.
Yeah, there are women that value height.
Absolutely.
A lot of men don't care so much about a woman's finances or career.
Certainly there are men who care.
It's everybody's preference.
Everyone has their preference.
I'm a strong believer in everything happens for a reason and everybody has their person.
Just like everybody has their preference.
So.
Okay.
We're going to wrap up, guys.
Finally.
Finally, we went really late.
Sorry to the panel, guys.
Terrell Xavier, $5 Super Chat.
He just saying the reality.
All the women are going after the same small group of men, which means chances are you're dating men with multiple girls.
Okay, thank you, Terrell, very much for the $5 Super Chat, much appreciated.
And we got these chats from Entertain Me Red Shirt Fit Check.
And then this guy, he wants a fit check from everyone.
So like an outfit track?
Yeah.
Okay.
They're in our photo.
So, I mean, do you, if you guys want, I mean, fit check?
I got some sick shoes on.
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess you have to stand up.
I mean, he wants you guys to stand up.
I mean, I don't.
Do you care where our items are from?
Should we do like a haul?
Yeah.
I like this.
I feel like I'm with the girlies.
I'm not even in the office.
The shoes.
Damn.
Okay.
Fit check.
I've been sitting this morning.
Are we looking at those?
So it's only like a like black sport.
The what?
Like the camera can only like take a tail lap.
Take a what?
Wait, what did you tell me?
I'm not gonna lift my leg and then there's the shoe aspect.
Yo, you guys in the chat.
Okay, what do you guys say?
My top is from Target.
It's a $5 basic.
Get all your basics from Target.
You will not run your money.
Skirt is thrifted.
I'm wearing rainbow flip-flops.
Earrings are urban outfitters.
Gold USA.
Birthday gift.
Gift from my mom.
Gift from a friend.
Gift from my mom.
Yeah, my top is just from a PR package called Slot Ready Funny.
And my jeans is from, I think it's from Free People.
Wait, hold on.
Do it again.
I think that.
The jeans is from Free People, and my.
It's from Dr. Morton.
The chat.
The chat.
Okay.
All right.
If you guys just want to sit down, I'll wrap up real quick.
All right.
We have a super chat.
No strings attached.
TV.
Thank you for the Canadian $5.
If you become the women that men don't like you, you will be put in the sex only category, no ring, and men are okay with that.
Hey, no strings attached.
Thank you for the super chat, man.
Much appreciated.
All right, we got to wrap up the show, guys.
Thank you so much, everyone, for tuning in.
Thank you to the viewers for watching.
Big thank you to the panel.
Much appreciated.
You guys were awesome.
Sorry that we went a bit late.
Congo was interesting, to say the least.
Really appreciate you guys coming out.
You guys are awesome.
We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific time.
And yeah, thanks again to the panel.
Yeah, I mean, 7.05.
We're always five minutes late.
But yeah, thank you so much to the panel for coming.