Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #9

Feb. 2, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #9

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	We could be having the most deep ass talks right now.
	They would not know.
	Can you guys say something?
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	So I don't know if we restart the fucking stream.
	Like, that's probably.
	I would go in.
	People are listening up.
	Just go with the flow.
	Just fucking bug it.
	Yo, can you guys hear us?
	Please.
	One in the chat if you can hear us.
	One in the chat.
	Okay, sorry, guys.
	I don't know what happened there.
	We're doing it live.
	Fucking typical, right?
	Okay, so why don't I start over with my intro?
	Okay, it's unfortunate that it took us that long to catch it, but Chris, were you not monitoring chat?
	You know, there's a delay here at all times.
	Well, yeah, I know, but you've got to.
	Okay, whatever.
	Okay, so we thoroughly fucked that up.
	Sorry, guys.
	So this is the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.
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	So without further ado, we're going to have the...
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	You need a little hype tone.
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	He choked a bit on the water.
	So we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, or school major if you're in school and current relationship status.
	Starting with you.
	Hi, I'm Kylie.
	I just turned 20 last week.
	I go, oh, thank you.
	Welcome back, by the way.
	Welcome back.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate it.
	I am an OnlyFans enthusiast and lifeguard partner.
	No, no, no.
	Enthusiast.
	What?
	You have an OnlyFans.
	Yeah, but that's just what you say.
	It's a little abrupt to be like, yeah, yeah, self-feepics on the show.
	Yeah, but an enthusiast could just be someone who you're just subbed to like 300 people.
	So you have an OnlyFans.
	I have an OnlyFans and it is linked in the description.
	Yeah, it's in the description, guys.
	It's in the description.
	Knock yourself out.
	She's an entrepreneur.
	Anyways, go ahead.
	I am switching into biopsych and I am currently in a relationship.
	Very nice.
	My name is Priscilla and I'm a massage therapist and I'm single.
	Age?
	28 years old.
	Right.
	I'm Liv.
	I'm 20 and I'm a student at SBCC.
	I study cosmetology and I'm single.
	My name's Leo.
	I'm 22.
	I'm a salesman.
	Relationship status?
	I got a wife.
	Wait, did you say your age?
	Yeah, 22.
	Oh, 22?
	Salesman.
	Are you in school too or just working?
	Just working.
	Okay.
	Hi, guys.
	My name's Tristan.
	I'm a kinesiology major.
	I'm currently in a relationship and what am I missing?
	Occupation school.
	I'm 21.
	You're a student, you said?
	Yeah, I'm a student.
	I'm going back to my school at Santa Barbara City College.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah, you said kinesiology.
	Yeah, kinesiology.
	Okay, got it.
	And as you guys can tell if you've seen our previous shows, we've kind of switched things up a bit.
	This is the 3v3 show.
	So, you know, trios.
	We might switch it up to quads.
	So we might do 4v4, but yeah.
	So also, I'm going to have us go around the table once again.
	If you wish, tell us political orientation, if you identify as a queen.
	And I guess kings for this side of the table.
	And if you identify as a feminist.
	Go ahead, Kylie.
	What do you mean by queen?
	Well, you've heard people refer to themselves as queen.
	Queen.
	I'm a queen.
	Do you consider yourself a queen?
	I don't really lean either way.
	I would say I'm more Democrat than Republican, but it doesn't really matter to me.
	I respect everyone's opinions.
	I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a Yas queen, but just a normal queen, I guess.
	Bad bitch genre.
	Mozilla's men?
	Oh, feminist.
	I'm not overbearing feminist, but I support women's rights.
	Okay.
	I think I'm more libertarian.
	I think I would probably be a king, not because I'm a man, but because they're the top.
	And then I'm, I don't think femme, hmm.
	I'm not huge on feminism, but I love where feminism has taken us, but I don't...
	I think that sometimes it could be too much because I'd like men to start opening doors again and lifting heavy things.
	That's where I stand.
	I mean, I'm in the middle.
	I'm not really Republican or a Democrat.
	I am not, same, I'm not really too feminist.
	I'm not an activist, but I definitely stand for women's rights.
	What was the other question?
	Oh, I consider myself a queen, I guess.
	I'm not sure.
	Leo?
	No political orientation.
	I do not identify as a king or a queen.
	And am I a feminist?
	No, not really, as long as, I mean, no, no.
	I'm not too really like crazy on politics.
	It's kind of just like either way.
	And then as far as like king or queen, I don't really identify as either, I guess.
	I guess I could be king, if you want to say that.
	And then as far as feminism, I mean, for me, it's kind of, I'm not too big on it.
	Yeah, do whatever you want, you know, live your life.
	Okay, got it.
	So I want to start off with an easy question for the show.
	What is your worst first date or dating experience that you've had, Kylie?
	Can I go last?
	I hate to interrupt, but did you answer the question?
	Oh, yeah, you need to answer it while I think of a question.
	Well, they already know.
	They already know about me, so everybody needs to know, Brian.
	Okay, well, so let me see.
	I do not consider myself a queen or a king.
	I think anyone who does, at best, they're a court jester.
	I'm fervently anti-feminist.
	And what was the other one?
	How can I forget my own?
	Political orientation, probably center, center, left.
	Relationship status, single.
	Occupation, washed up, has-been YouTuber.
	And then worst first date experience.
	I haven't had any horrific first dates, but the one that stands out to me is he took me to Olive Garden and then stole my belt.
	What?
	He stole your what? Belt.
	Like it was my favorite belt, and I like took it off because they were like really tight on my jeans.
	Because we went back, he was like, oh, like, let me show you my plays.
	And we didn't end up doing anything.
	Because we were at Olive Garden.
	I had to loosen the jeans a little bit, you know, and I took off my belt.
	And then I was like, oh, I forgot it.
	Nope.
	Did he put it on?
	Like, well, no, but he like sent me a picture that was like, yeah, I have your belt.
	And then he unedited me.
	Okay.
	He just hit me with the belt and block.
	Okay.
	Priscilla.
	Oh.
	There's been a lot.
	I believe that it was when so a mutual friend of a friend so I knew he wasn't creepy He invited me to go swimming at his place.
	Into the microphone, please.
	Sorry.
	So I was invited to go swimming at this guy's place, and I knew it wasn't creepy because I had a friend that knew him.
	So I decided to go.
	And basically, he told me to just let him know when I got there.
	And so I told him when I got there.
	And then he's like, hey, I'm already in the pool.
	Come on back.
	And then, so I go back and he's already in the pool.
	So he's like, is that weird?
	He's already in the pool.
	Like he didn't let you in to his own place.
	Like he didn't come and get me or anything.
	Like he didn't.
	I thought you were going to say he was like naked or nothing.
	Yeah.
	That's what I was headed.
	Yeah, just say he was naked.
	Just say he was naked.
	I guess it wasn't that bad.
	It was just like a series of little tiny things.
	That was just like weird.
	Just little tiny red flags.
	Right.
	Like no greetings.
	Not weird at all.
	That's not that.
	That's not that weird.
	If you're already in the pool, that's not weird.
	No, probably already in the middle.
	Come on, hop in.
	He was just impatient.
	He just wanted to go swimming.
	Okay, moving on, Liv.
	It was probably when I first moved here.
	It was like the first week, and I had just moved into Beach City in Santa Barbara.
	And this guy asked me to go to the beach and I was like down.
	And then we went to the beach and we both were like tanning or whatever.
	And I guess I like fell asleep for a quick second.
	And I woke up and like my bathing suit was like cut.
	So I couldn't.
	He was still there too.
	Like he didn't even have the decency to run.
	It was just, I couldn't do anything about it.
	Wait, this was a date?
	Yeah, like he was like, do you want to go to the beach?
	Like we were both, we both just freshly moved here and he was like, would you want to go to the beach with me?
	And I was like, sure.
	And we went.
	And then, yeah, my strings were cut.
	What the fuck?
	That's probably like the weirdest date, I guess.
	I don't really have many weird date stories because a lot of my dates have been really like generic, like drive-in movies and dinner.
	And you really can't fuck that up.
	What happens after that?
	Yeah, like she doesn't get up.
	I just was kind of like...
	The backseat of his Miata.
	No.
	I just was kind of like, what the fuck?
	And then wrapped my towel and just walked back to my place.
	I don't know.
	It was really weird.
	I didn't really do anything about it.
	So he's just carrying some scissors with him?
	Like, what the fuck?
	I don't know.
	Like, he might, I don't know.
	Like, I just woke up and next thing, like, my bathing suit was cut.
	I don't know.
	I fell asleep, which was probably not smart on my part, but I was tanning.
	Who falls asleep on a date, though?
	I was tanning.
	What?
	I don't know.
	I was just falling.
	I mean, I fall asleep.
	I basically fall asleep every month.
	Cut a whole bathing suit without you noticing that's like how do you self-awareness?
	What the heck?
	Jesus.
	I was not as good.
	Are you sober?
	It's a bad date if you're sleeping on it.
	Was it daylight?
	It was one of those dates where it was like there was no conversation to be had.
	It was just kind of like, it was really boring.
	Should have ran.
	That's what I would have done.
	With the coast.
	With the custom suit.
	He should have ran.
	He should have.
	What's this gentleman's name?
	I'm not going to say that.
	Okay, Leo.
	I was going to talk to this young man.
	Okay, Leo, what was the worst first date or worst dating experience that you had?
	Honestly, I haven't really had any.
	They've all been, I mean, you know.
	It's always the momentum.
	You've just killed it every date.
	He's just on it.
	Hey, that's perfect.
	Tristan.
	I mean, I feel like as being the guy, you have to kind of lead the date usually, you know?
	So, like, most of my dates have gone well.
	I mean, I guess the only weird ones, I guess you would say, would be like, there was a girl that I want to date with, and she was so boring and plain that I literally dropped her off within like 15 minutes of the date.
	I was like, I actually got to go home.
	I got home.
	No, literally, I mean, you got to be like, time's expensive, you know?
	Like, you get paid for your time.
	And if someone's just being boring, waste your time, you know?
	And like, they're not even, like, you're not even trying to get in their pants.
	It's just, like, just conversating as simple as that.
	And if they're being boring, just like, I gotta go.
	She's just, what was she, how was she boring?
	I wasn't talking to her.
	I just picked her up and like, I just, it was dead-end questions.
	I'd ask questions, you know, try to get someone, try to get to know, you know, like things about her.
	And then it's just like no conversation.
	So I was like, hey, you know what?
	I actually have something really important to do right now.
	I was like, yeah, I don't know.
	I gotta go home.
	Sometimes that.
	All right.
	I stopped the date within three minutes.
	So that's not that bad.
	Three minutes, yeah, but yours is.
	Like, I was like, I don't feel the romantic feeling.
	I don't know.
	What'd you just say?
	Like, what'd you say to him?
	You're like, yeah, never mind.
	I changed my mind.
	What?
	Dude, did that happen to me?
	Immediately.
	The romantic connection.
	Are we talking the vibe, the chemistry?
	If we were in a movie, we would be in a different movie.
	The fuck does that feel like?
	Just because I'm curious, I want to ask the girls, what is the click, the vibe, the chemistry, the lightning, the thunder, the butterflies?
	What can you articulate what that is, Kylie?
	I mean, it's really hard to describe because, as you said, it's just like a feeling.
	Like when you see someone, it's just like little butterflies in your stomach, or you're just like super excited or nervous to talk to them.
	It's not really a like tangible thing.
	I don't know how to describe it, really.
	Just like a man's penis is directly psychological.
	Anything that a man like for a man to get horny, he has to think about it.
	He has to think about it.
	Elaborate.
	So in order for blood to rush, in order for blood to rush to a man's penis, there has to be a psychology behind it.
	Not true.
	Not true.
	I have woken up.
	Yeah.
	It's just happened sometimes.
	Yes.
	I am so utterly confused.
	So it's not, it's not like.
	No.
	They don't choose to be aware of that.
	They just have to be attracted to you.
	What do you mean?
	No.
	So yeah, if you're attracted, that's a thought.
	True.
	It's not like I'm walking out in public.
	I see someone attracting them.
	I'm like, oh, there it is.
	It's kind of just like, it happens, you know.
	It's like that energy between you two.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Right.
	I think butterflies are the same thing.
	It's all the same thing.
	Yeah.
	I think you should.
	Okay.
	Liz, do you want to just chime in on this?
	What's your live?
	Live.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, it's like, for me, it's like if you're nervous to talk to them, there's no really, like, there's no way to describe that feeling, I guess.
	I guess, like, I know it's when, like, if I were to go and hang out with them and I actually get nervous to go, or I find myself, like, trying to get ready.
	Whereas, like, if I'm really not interested, it's just like, eh, whatever.
	But I can't really describe it.
	I feel that.
	Yeah.
	Do any of the guys on this side of the table want to take a crack at trying to articulate what the vibe or chemistry or spark, click, whatever it is, what that is.
	And if it's necessary for you to have that to be interested in a girl.
	Like, looking to date or be in a relationship with?
	Like.
	Sure.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, I guess for me, I haven't really been in many relationships, but like, I guess it's, you know, having a good time, like, just like you would with one of your good friends, you know, like, if you guys are just having a blast, not something that really feels forced.
	It's kind of just like normal, you know, you guys are just chatting it up, you know, having fun.
	You know, then that would be what I would say is, like, you know, something that I would look for.
	Okay.
	Her loud scene is pretty sound there.
	Just kind of dumb.
	Thank you, Kai.
	Hey, well, I should basically just like what explains like what is the vibe, clicking, chemistry, lightning, thunder, you know, butterflies, whatever it is that these mystical terms that are used to describe.
	I mean, I think it's different if you're just trying to like hook up compared to like if you're actually into someone.
	Because if you're just trying to hook up, same with girls, I feel like it's you could kind of just do it, right?
	But if you actually like someone, it's a little different.
	So, I mean, it just depends.
	Right.
	What do you think?
	I put the vibe, the chemistry, clicking in the same, I describe it in the same sense as love at first sight, or in the same category as love at first sight and astrology.
	It's basically bullshit, I think.
	Oh, okay.
	I think it's bullshit.
	I thought you were saying you believe in love at first sight.
	I was like, oh my God, that's her.
	What's her side?
	Oh, my God.
	So you often hear, I didn't feel the chemistry or I didn't feel the vibe.
	And I think essentially when a girl says that, like, what she's trying to communicate is that the guy is just not attractive, basically.
	That's my impression.
	They're not attracted to the guy.
	And I think the vibe or feeling sparks is actually something that women feel when the guy is actually, let's say, a few, is more attractive than she is.
	That's my sense of what sparks, the vibe, the chemistry is.
	It's when the guy is more attractive than her.
	By one or two points, let's just say.
	On the rating scale.
	One or two scales.
	I've definitely seen some dudes that are for sure have a girl that's out of their league.
	So it could go either way.
	Honestly, personality actually like an ego booster for the girl.
	Yeah, because I'm like, dude, like, how?
	Like, there's some dudes I'm like, dang, he must have a personality.
	She's doing some charity work.
	Yeah, I don't know, but it can go either way, I guess.
	Well, I mean, we can go around the table on this.
	So what percent, and we're going to ask the girls this.
	So what percentage of men that you see on dating apps do you find attractive and that you swipe right on?
	I've never had a dating app.
	Okay.
	So I can't really answer that.
	Like on a day-to-day basis, when you're walking around, if you're at a club or a party or just walking around the street, what percentage of the men do you see?
	And you're like, maybe let's say of the men within your age cohort that you date?
	Because certainly if you see a 60-year-old, you're not going to find him attractive.
	Well, I shouldn't speak, but of the men that you see that you suspect are within your age cohort, what percentage of them do you find attractive?
	Like 10 to 15%.
	10 to 15%.
	Okay.
	Priscilla?
	About 10.
	10% of the men.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd say the same.
	Into the mic, please.
	I say the same.
	10%.
	Yeah, I don't really, I'm really oblivious when I'm walking places.
	I don't really look.
	I'm usually focused on where I'm going.
	But if I do see somebody attractive, it's usually like 10% of the time.
	Okay.
	Like someone that catches your eye specifically because they're attractive?
	No, just that you would say that you find them attractive.
	They don't have to be a supermodel or anything.
	Okay.
	Then I'm keeping my answer like that.
	It's just I find people more attractive when I talk to them.
	You know what I mean?
	Because a lot of people, you look at them, you're like, yeah, you know, like, they're fine, like, they're cute.
	And then you talk to them and you're like, okay, like, I could see it.
	It's like he was saying, like, that guy definitely has a personality.
	Okay.
	Based on like hookups, if you're looking at just like the outside, I feel like that's if you're in like a, I want to hook up with them.
	But once you start talking to them, it might be different as well.
	They might become more attractive or less.
	Because I've talked to somebody who is really attractive, but they said some really dumb things.
	Not who are, no.
	It was back before I moved here, and he just said something one time that was like really dumb.
	And I just was like, yeah, no.
	What'd he say?
	It's just something that came out of his fucking ass.
	And I was just like, you're really stupid.
	Yeah.
	Didn't talk after that.
	I feel like girls focus a lot more on personality than guys.
	I feel like guys, some guys, most guys, I guess, would be fine with just a girl that has Nothing in the head.
	I mean, that's not, I'm not talking about me.
	I definitely am not like that.
	But I know a lot of my friends who just be like, hey, whatever.
	She's good looking.
	So then, like, what percentage of girls walking around would you guys find attractive?
	For me, I only focus on one, my girl.
	But so before you were dating your girl, I have a dark past.
	Come on, let's go into it.
	Let's go into it.
	I would say, like.
	Do you want his girlfriend to bust in here right now?
	30%.
	I would say 30%.
	30%.
	Okay.
	Tell us about your dark past.
	Oh, no.
	I don't know.
	I guess I just.
	I didn't really.
	I wasn't interested in relationships for a while.
	So then I kind of just, you know, was having a lot of time.
	Went on a tear?
	Yeah, yeah, kind of.
	I mean, I'm not like someone who has low standards either, but like, it's just, I went on a tear, I guess that's a good way to put it.
	Maybe we should bring this question up.
	What's your body count?
	Mine is not that high, actually.
	It's only 20.
	Only 20.
	Okay.
	I mean, it certainly could be higher.
	And you're 21?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Leo, do you want to come in on this one?
	My body count?
	Yeah.
	Not that high, but I don't really want to say it.
	It's kind of weird.
	You don't want to say it?
	Come on.
	I don't keep counting.
	How about it's probably between like between like 10 and 15.
	Okay.
	Liv?
	11.
	Priscilla?
	I think probably 15.
	I'm working on it.
	She's like, I'm adding some men to the roster.
	I can't sit back, so.
	And mine's 10.
	10.
	Times.
	30.
	Yeah, 30.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait.
	Here, I got something.
	I think someone actually asked.
	Oh, wait, no, that's a different one.
	Hold on, I got something here.
	Or apparently not.
	I am thoroughly fucking this up.
	Multiply it by three.
	That's the real number.
	For women.
	I think for men, you have to divide.
	You divide by three.
	Yeah, actually, yeah, that's true.
	I think that's true.
	Let's divide it.
	Let's divide and then multiply.
	I'm down for that one.
	That's a thing.
	So we're going to go around the table.
	On a first date, should the guy pay or do you each pay your own bill, Kylie?
	Well, people always say, like, it depends who asks whom on the date, you know, but I think it should just be split 50-50.
	Not even 50-50.
	If I order.
	Each check, own check.
	Yeah, if I order my own big-ass entree, like I'll pay for that shit.
	I don't care.
	Priscilla.
	Definitely the man, because it's about supply and demand, and men want sex more than women want sex.
	So if I'm going to waste my time to go out with someone, it's going to be him paying.
	And he'll know that beforehand, too.
	She'll tell him beforehand.
	Are there any other reasons?
	Why, or just that's the reason?
	And I want to know that he's putting in an investment because if I'm dating, it's serious.
	So I want to know that he's willing to invest a little bit.
	And that I'm like, if he's taking women out all the time, then maybe he can't afford to do dinner.
	But if he's just interested in me and wants to take me out, then he'll take me out.
	Can I ask her something?
	Yes.
	Would you ever pay for them?
	One time this guy said he wasn't hungry, and so I bought myself a small pizza and he ate like half of it.
	And he's like, you're not like other girls.
	You bought me a pizza.
	And I was like, no, I did not.
	So no.
	Would not buy anyone anything ever.
	Um, I've said this before.
	I feel like it depends if, you know, how it what we're looking for.
	If he's looking to actually take me out and invest, then yeah, definitely maybe he should pay, but I'm always down to split, or I've said it before, um, if he can't afford it and, you know, he comes up short or something like, sure, I guess I'll pay, but definitely split.
	So if the guy asks you on the first date, still split.
	If he if he asks me out, yeah, if he asks you, then I mean, I would, I would hope that he would pay asking me out, but um, yeah, yeah, you'd expect that.
	Leo?
	Yeah.
	I just said she would expect him to pay if he asked her out.
	But so, um, oh, like, what will happen?
	Yeah, so on the first date, um, should the guy pay, or do you each pay your own bill?
	I mean, I would pay if I'm interested.
	So, I mean, I think if, like, it's a relationship and you guys have been seeing each other for a while, like, if she offers a split, it's like, okay, cool.
	Or it's, like, every other date?
	Yeah, it's like, you know, I'll pay or you, or you'll pay this time.
	So it's, like, it depends.
	But, I mean, if I'm asking a girl on a date and it's, like, I've never gone on a date with her, I'd take her out and pay.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Okay.
	I'll actually let Tristan want you.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	For me, if I ask her out, you know, I'm definitely paying.
	Like, if a guy doesn't pay for you, you know, like if they ask you out, most likely they're just, they don't really care, to be honest.
	That's true.
	But I also think that girls shouldn't expect.
	Like, I'm sorry, I disagree, Priscilla, but I don't think they should expect every time for the guy to pay.
	I think it's like, there's always this argument about equality.
	What about for the first date only?
	Okay, yeah, I mean, sure.
	You don't know the guy, and mostly men do only want sex.
	Not all guys.
	I mean, you could say that.
	Like, I think like 100% of the dates that I go on, they try to have sex with me.
	Then you're dating the wrong people.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't happen.
	I'm working on it, right?
	You're working on it.
	She's working on it.
	Even when your body can't hire, so what do you mean?
	It's a selection of people.
	I was just kidding.
	I was trying to take that back.
	You can't.
	Yeah.
	I cannot.
	You cannot.
	It's on the internet forever now.
	No, no.
	No, no.
	I was trying to take it back for women.
	Like, women should be able to have sex as often as they want because women should be able to have sex as often as they want because everybody loves sex.
	All right, we're getting heated up.
	What I was trying to say, though, is girls shouldn't expect it.
	You know, they always talk about equality and, you know, and that also comes to that aspect of paying.
	They shouldn't expect it.
	But yeah, the guy, you know, as the man, the relationship has, you know, also a way to, I don't know, show that they're trying to treat the girl right.
	Right.
	So paying is a good sign, but this shouldn't be expected.
	Like, I'm glad that my girlfriend isn't always like, oh, you have to pay for everything.
	You know, I just do it because I'm willing to.
	Okay.
	For the two guys, got a question for you.
	Of the times that you've met a new girl or you're going on the first date with a new girl, were you the one that asked?
	Or did the girl ask for the first date, Tristan?
	Mostly, mostly me, I think.
	Mostly you asked me.
	Yeah, someone I can think of.
	Mostly me.
	Leah?
	Are you saying like who asked who on the date?
	Yeah, of most of the dates that you've been on.
	Oh, the guy, for sure, yeah.
	So you're asking most of the time?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I feel like girls are scared too.
	Have you ever been asked out on a first date by a girl?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so it's happened.
	Yeah.
	But for the most rare, it's rare.
	And same with you, Tristan.
	Yeah.
	Have you been asked out on a first date?
	Yeah, no, it's rare, but it's rare.
	It's happened, yeah.
	Okay.
	If a girl really wants you, she'll ask you to go do something.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it.
	So I'm going to give my take on who should pay.
	I have a bit of a controversial one because I don't think I think a lot of guys will disagree with me on this one.
	A lot of women will disagree with me on this one too.
	I think you each pay your own bill.
	Doesn't matter who asks.
	You each just pay your own bill.
	And I've got four reasons, and I've written them down here.
	I got some notes.
	I've got some notes.
	So I got four reasons why I believe you should each pay your own bill.
	So men are the ones that are overwhelmingly that overwhelmingly have to initiate everything.
	So men are de facto the askers.
	So if your take is whoever asks should pay, well, that ignores the fact that 99% of the time for a first date, it's going to be the man that asks.
	So effectively, your answer to the question, who should pay, is men.
	If men and women asked each other out at similar rates, then, I mean, whoever asks should pay would be a fair answer.
	But the fact of the matter is, is that most women do not ask out men.
	And men, we don't have the privilege of just waiting around to be approached, to be asked out.
	So second is foodie calls.
	A lot of women will go on dates without having a genuine interest in the guy just for a free meal or free experience.
	So I've had my own experiences with this.
	They've done studies on this.
	So this is one of the reasons I don't even do food dates.
	Food dates are terrible for a few different reasons.
	I can get into that later.
	But yeah.
	Third reason.
	So gone are the days of dating one person at a time.
	Like if you're on a date with a girl, you have to assume that she's entertaining a bunch of other options.
	And a girl can assume that about men too.
	But she has much more options than you do.
	So that means that the probability of your date working out is much lower than it otherwise would be if she was only entertaining you.
	So yeah, I mean that's just the PG version.
	So I'm going to get into the fourth reason, which is related.
	So the fourth reason is the dating meta is such that you have to assume that a girl you're going on a date with is sleeping with at least one other guy.
	At least one.
	I mean, don't be surprised if it's like three or four.
	So I mean, my simple take is you don't spend money on women who are fucking other men.
	Like point blank, period.
	Woo!
	So, and let me be clear, it's not all women, but a lot are fucking around.
	They have a roster, they have a rotation.
	And honestly, it's much easier for women to get laid.
	So even like unassuming women.
	That's what I was talking about with supply and demand.
	We'll get there.
	But like even average women are entertaining multiple options.
	So I don't know.
	Just I don't know guys.
	If a girl's fucking somebody else, I'm going to feel a certain type of way if I'm paying for her.
	So because that's me adhering to my traditional gender roles, but y'all not.
	adhering to your traditional gender roles.
	So well, would you be fucking other women?
	What do you mean?
	Like, you say that she's not allowed to fuck other men, but you're like, if I'm paying for her, she's not allowed to, but would you still be allowed to fuck other women?
	about allowed to or not it's just i'm just saying in your head would you feel like it was okay if you if you had your roster if you had your like color-coded dick appointment You know what I mean?
	Bring in Andrew Tate.
	I mean, if I'm typically, I'm not seeing multiple girls at the same time.
	Sometimes it happens, you know, from time to time.
	You know, I'm a monogamous man, but I mean, going in on a first date, I mean, there's no, there's obviously, I don't have an expectation a girl is going to be loyal to me.
	I'm not like, oh, first date, you can't be talking to other guys.
	No.
	But given that, you know, the way things are, if you have, like I said, you have to assume that they're probably talking to somebody else.
	They're sleeping with somebody else.
	So I'm just going to make the assumption that they're talking to someone else, sleeping with somebody else.
	And under those circumstances, I'm not going to pay on the first date.
	Okay.
	So there's that.
	So also, just last thing on this.
	It's a pretty big L as a guy.
	If you take a girl out on a date and you pay for her stuff, she gets a doggy bag to go.
	She gives you an ass-out hug, a side hug, you know, one of those ass-out side hugs.
	She leaves, maybe gives you a kiss on the cheek, and immediately after, she goes to another dude's house and gives him the food in which you paid for and then fucks him.
	Well, how many times?
	How many times has that happened to you, bro?
	This has a very specific story.
	He's tearing up.
	He's like, and then she goes to his house and fucks.
	No, this for sure happens to guys all the fucking time.
	They take a look at them.
	They're a nice guy.
	They take a girl out to dinner.
	And then, oh, he's so nice.
	And then she goes to the guy who she's fucking.
	Here's the doggy bag.
	We don't want nice guys.
	Yeah, you're a good guy.
	Here's the doggy.
	That's kind of like when you go to a bar and a girl's with her boyfriend and then a guy buys her a drink and she turns around and gives it to her boyfriend.
	But that's just using that.
	I mean, yeah, but that's just a scenario in which I would not want to find myself in.
	I cannot confirm or deny it.
	I don't know if that's happened to me, but it's certainly something that I'm not going to be wanting to open myself to.
	Of course not.
	So I kind of said my long piece.
	I want to go around the table.
	If you guys want to respond or have anything you want to I think you should take her to an expensive enough restaurant to where they don't allow to go bags.
	Problem solved.
	What?
	Yeah, but I'm still paying.
	She's still going to go fuck another guy.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm just kidding.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	She's not kidding.
	She's like, I'm not paying for that.
	That was kind of a monologue there.
	So I just want to.
	I'm going to agree or disagree.
	There's parts of it that I could see her side, and there's other parts where I'm like, okay.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I've had a pretty good sense of the girl that I take to dates, and I can pick up if a girl is just trying to get a foodie day out of me.
	Because if I got the vibe that that's what was happening, I'm not paying.
	The thing is, I wouldn't even take that girl out.
	If I'm taking a girl out, most likely I know kind of like the person they are.
	And if I'm getting the vibe that they're trying to do that to me, no way.
	No way.
	I would not pay.
	Well, you're a very handsome gentleman.
	I will say that.
	So I mean, have you encountered that at all, though?
	There's definitely girls, but I just, they can definitely not even get a chance to even go on a date.
	If I get the feeling that they're that type of girl, I'm not even asking that type of girl.
	Like out.
	The girls that I've asked out are a very specific type, and I kind of get a feeling of who they are before I ask them out.
	Okay.
	Sure, sure.
	Okay.
	Anybody else?
	Thoughts?
	Well, I agree.
	I agree with Liv.
	It's honestly, I don't agree with all of it, but I definitely disagree on certain points.
	Because for your first point, I ask out more guys, or I have asked out more guys than I've been asked out.
	Stop having cap.
	I'm not lying.
	We've talked about this before.
	We've talked about this before.
	Come on.
	Because I just hate being idle.
	Like, I hate the stupid talking phase.
	You know, it's like, oh, when's he going to text me?
	Like, my roommate is currently waiting for a text back.
	And I'm like, just fucking text him.
	Like, just fucking text him.
	It's so stupid.
	Yeah.
	I'm always like, oh, like, do you want to go to this party?
	Like, do you want to do that?
	Like, back when I was openly pursuing people, like, I just, I get bored waiting for people to text me.
	Straight up.
	He's like, yes.
	That's the type of, like, I don't know, I guess what girls should do, you know, is just stop idling, waiting for the guy.
	You know, if they get, if they're so impatient, too, like, you know, when's he going to ask me out?
	Just do it yourself.
	Like, don't.
	It's really that simple.
	They don't have to, though, is the thing.
	Women have the privilege of kind of just letting guys come to them.
	So, and I think a lot of women will say, if he doesn't, if he's not the type of guy that would have the confidence or the balls to make the move, he's not the type of guy for me, anyways.
	So they just, you know, women are inundated with options is the thing.
	I mean, if you've ever seen a girl's Instagram DMs, if you've ever seen a girl's Tinder, like Bruv, it's a fucking mess.
	Okay, so we're going to do a couple super chats here because we've got quite a few here.
	And quite a few from our good friend.
	Mr. Mike Day Davis.
	Mikey Davis.
	He's the guy that saw me.
	Okay, Mike.
	Oh, Mike.
	Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
	Hey, man, Mike.
	Good to see you back.
	You brought these soy boys on, and we're already having issues.
	I think he was talking about with the audio issues.
	Do you guys have anything to say back to Mike Davis?
	He just shots fired, you know?
	Describe a soy boy.
	Soy boy.
	Oh, you know what?
	I think he's mean like soy boys.
	No, soy boys.
	Soy boys.
	That's what Andrew Tate says.
	He means vegetarian.
	Oh, no.
	Is that what the soy boy is?
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	Yeah, someone who doesn't eat meat.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Much red meat eaten.
	He means just take that as an insane.
	Sorry, Mike Davis.
	I'm not a soy boy.
	Chris thinks it's protein.
	Funny thing is you're wanting a mess.
	You're paying.
	Yeah, you're paying to watch us.
	Comment by Mr. Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis with the $10 super chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I felt bad at first, but this chick in the mill is about to unleash some heavy roasts from me if she continues this nonsense.
	Let's hear it, Mike.
	Hey, Mike.
	Unleash yourself, Mike.
	What?
	He said unleash some heavy roads.
	Go in.
	Go in, Mike Davis.
	Go in.
	We want to hear it.
	Hey, good to see you back, though.
	Okay.
	Mike Davis with the five.
	Mike Davis is pretty much funding this entire podcast.
	Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis is a fucking G.
	Okay.
	Mike Davis, thank you for the $5 super chat.
	When Tristan says dark times, he's referring to dark times in the closet.
	If you catch my drift, when he says girl, he means his beard.
	By the way, Mike Davis is our resident roaster.
	Hello.
	So he's a good guy.
	He's a good guy.
	It's all good.
	I love it.
	It's good fun.
	No, Tristan, Tristan's girlfriend actually appeared in a previous episode, Morgan.
	I think she's in episode like four.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She had like the snake tattoo on her arm, really cool tattoo.
	Yeah.
	A little gin rat.
	So, I mean, maybe it's.
	I assume it's legitimate.
	So I'm pretty sure it's a legitimate relationship.
	I don't think it's a front.
	Mike Davis.
	Check out the Instagram.
	Trisbra T-R-Y-Z-Z.
	Brah.
	They're really.
	All right.
	We got that.
	Yo, thank you for the super sticker, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Mike Davis back again.
	Mike Davis with the $10 super chat.
	Much appreciated, man.
	100% of the guys I date want sex.
	She must be confusing or massage clients with dates.
	Yeah, while we're.
	That's good, Mike.
	Good job.
	Priscilla, while we're on the topic, have any of your clients ever solicited a happy ending?
	No.
	But one of my clients did show me his butthole.
	His what?
	Like bend in the butthole.
	Like bend over and like spread the cheese.
	Like, yeah.
	How do you react?
	On his knees low.
	Basically, I was rubbing his feet.
	Microphone.
	Microphone.
	So, like, I'm rubbing his feet, and I look over.
	Into the mic, please.
	I look over, and he's just sort of like propped up on his knees with his asshole gaping.
	And sort of pulsing.
	I mean, pulsing.
	He's pulsing.
	He's pulsing.
	I'm going to try to let her rip.
	It was an invitation.
	Okay.
	You should have said that was your weird date.
	That would have been a good one.
	Dude, that's fucking hilarious.
	That was funny.
	Okay.
	You asked.
	You asked.
	We need some more, Mike Davis.
	Yeah, I think next one from Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis, we want to get it.
	Mike Davis.
	Oh, I think.
	Wait, we missed one here.
	That's the last time it was Purple Hair.
	Okay.
	Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
	Thank you, sir.
	Last time it was Purple Hair, now it's the Masseuse.
	Brian always throws a misfit in there.
	Hey, you know, it is what it is.
	Yeah.
	By the way, her Instagram is in the description if you guys want to massage.
	Okay.
	Oh, easy ending, please.
	No, no, no, please.
	No, thank you.
	Okay.
	And then NDN Bala with the $5 super chat.
	Thank you, man, for the support.
	Much appreciated.
	Best way to get laid at raves.
	Also, this podcast is more fluid than others.
	People should be talking over each other and be really comfortable in vibe.
	Oh.
	So I guess that's an endorsement.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Best way to get laid at raves.
	I've never been to a rave, so I don't know.
	I have.
	All right.
	Tristan resident rave getting a late expert.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm not an expert on it because I was in a relationship.
	I literally just went, I guess, a couple weeks ago.
	And I guess, but I can see how it happens though, because people take Molly at these raves, and it's very common.
	You know, that's people go to raves, and most likely they're rolling.
	They just want random hugs.
	Like, they just want to hug people and they want affection from other people.
	So it's honestly like if a girl's rolling, you're rolling, like, you might just link with someone random there that's also rolling.
	And like, I just see people randomly hugging.
	It's the weirdest thing.
	It's the weirdest thing, but it was pretty funny.
	By the way, no bullspit.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	For being a member, not for the endorsement of a comment.
	Okay, so moving on here.
	Let's see.
	So going back really quick to who should pay, my advice to men is do not participate in traditional courtship with non-traditional women.
	And Newsflash, 90% of women are not traditional.
	Sorry.
	Misogyny.
	Okay.
	Not misogyny.
	So, next question for the panel: Is dating easier for men or for women?
	Kylie?
	In what aspects?
	Like getting to go on dates or like the entire dating process?
	Let's say women for sure.
	The early stages of dating.
	So.
	Then I would say women definitely have it easier.
	They get more attention than guys.
	Yeah, 100%.
	And especially if you're not a good-looking dude, you're not getting any attention.
	Let me give you an analogy.
	I was telling Tristan, I was like, if we were to just have like one girl DM50 guys and then one guy DM 50 guys and say, let's fuck, the girl would get like way more responses than 100%.
	Without a doubt.
	Even if she's not even good-looking.
	Average girl.
	Yeah.
	Average.
	Even if you're a good-looking dude, you go, girls, like if a guy just straight up texts a girl, like, let's fuck, like, most likely, you're still going to get a no.
	Maybe a couple yeses here and there after like 50 people.
	But girls saying that, even if you're not a good-looking girl, you're getting a lot of yeses.
	Yeah.
	It's true.
	Priscilla.
	It's definitely easier for women.
	Yeah.
	Like, Priscilla gets a bunch of DMs.
	Yeah, Priscilla.
	Yeah, it's easier for women.
	I think Leo and you, I mean, you guys already kind of answered it.
	Okay.
	Word.
	Word.
	Okay.
	So I want us to do a video reaction, Chris.
	So if you can switch us over to window mode and maybe bring it back to okay, well, while this is up, we'll react to it.
	Can you control mouse wheel zoom in on this?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Okay, so this is a CNN article.
	This is not at all related to dating, but I just thought it was interesting.
	So can you just scroll back up a bit?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	So this is a CNN article.
	Bryce Dallas Howard says she was paid less than Chris Pratt for Jurassic World Films.
	This has absolutely nothing to do with dating, but I just wanted to talk about it because it annoyed me.
	So scroll down just a teeny bit.
	So this is basically just the wage gap myth.
	It's basically, I guess I don't know if I've seen the film.
	No, that's fine.
	Go back up to the photo.
	So I don't know if I've seen the film, but apparently this is his co-star.
	I'm not even sure if she's the co-star though.
	Pretty sure Chris Pratt's the lead, and she's supporting has a supporting role.
	And she's complaining that she was paid less than Chris Pratt.
	Chat, one in the chat, do you have any idea who the fuck this lady is?
	And do you know who Chris?
	And then do you guys know who Chris Pratt is?
	So she's complaining that she's that Chris Pratt, the lead who has more star power than her, is getting paid more.
	So one in the chat, guys, if you have any idea who this woman is.
	But I want to just go around the table just really quick on this.
	I know it's not really dating related, but it is related to the gender dynamics.
	So apparently she was paid less than Chris Pratt.
	They're both actors.
	They're both in the film Jurassic World.
	Do you think that's sexism?
	Do you think that's justified?
	What's your take on this, Kylie?
	Well, I think it's justified because he is obviously a much bigger actor than she is.
	Like, that's why he's paid more because his time is worth more, I would say, like in the industry, in the Hollywood industry.
	Because more famous people get paid more because they need more incentive to be in a film.
	So it's just doesn't make sense to me.
	Yeah, I think she said it perfectly.
	Liv.
	Yeah, it's all about hours and stuff because I know people who've produced movies and the amount of times that the lead role usually has to be there or hours that they have to be there and how many times that they have to retake versus like an extra or a supporting role is very different.
	Leo?
	I have no idea who these people are, so I don't know.
	You don't know who Chris Pratt is?
	No.
	What?
	No thoughts, Leo?
	I don't know.
	No.
	Okay, Tristan.
	Excuse my French, but that's bullshit.
	Like, I mean, I get it.
	There's a lot of like men actors that are paid more than women.
	I get it.
	But like, in that aspect, is like, why even have that as a headline?
	They're running out of headlines because Chris Pratt is Chris Pat.
	You know, he's like top image actor in the industry.
	Like, you can't compare it to Brian.
	Bryce Dallas.
	Okay, I kind of tell her, but like, it's like, it's not Chris Pratt.
	Like, you can't compare it.
	Wait, wait, Bryce is a girl?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a chick.
	It's a chick.
	Yeah.
	Far more famous main character.
	No, I know.
	Paid higher equals sexism.
	I mean, I guess the whole wage thing, the wage war between women and men is like, it's been going on for years.
	And men have always been the workers, you know, as long as I don't even know before when women were always expected to be at home taking care of the kids.
	And then now I guess we're bringing it into like a new era.
	It's just kind of like women are starting to work more, you know, obviously.
	So equality is a lot bigger now.
	And it's just like women's wages are getting higher and higher.
	But there's also the argument, like, there's a lot of jobs that guys can't do that women can do.
	Like that they.
	Talking to OnlyFans?
	Yes.
	Like, let's go back to you.
	Okay.
	You can do OnlyFans and probably come, you know, pretty successful with and get a good amount of money.
	If a guy opens up in OnlyFans, his percentage of getting like a good amount of money from it is a lot lower.
	A lot lower.
	Yeah, let's talk about the gender wage gap in the OnlyFans.
	Let's talk about it.
	No, but, Chris, if you can just pull back up the window.
	So, I mean, like.
	Can I add something to that?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Like in McDonald's, there's no wage gap.
	Yep. Facts.
	Right.
	So it's, I think it's just depending on the value you put out.
	So he's probably just more valuable than she is.
	So 100%.
	Well, it's just kind of self-evident.
	Oh, the star of the movie made more than the supporting actress.
	It's just like, what are you complaining about, lady?
	They like used her face for promotions instead of his, like it wouldn't garner the same like audience turnout, you know.
	Like because you put Chris Pratt on a big movie pressure, everyone's like, dude, I fucking love that guy.
	Like, Chris Pratt's great.
	And he is like the face of that franchise now.
	Like, because he's been in all of them, like, he is the main character.
	Also, Chris, if you can pull back the article in the article a bit down, she complained to Chris Pratt about this, and he actually went to war for her to get her paid more.
	By the way, she's the son of Ron Howard.
	Ron Howard's like super famous actor, very successful director.
	So super privileged chick, like, and just kind of ridiculous.
	Like, Chris Pratt's dad didn't get his son's career handed to him.
	So, by the way, CNN, by the way, perpetuating the long-debunked wage gap myth and making an absolutely egregious argument for it.
	Like, this is, if I wanted to steel man the wage gap argument for the other side, I mean, this is an absolutely terrible example because it's just you cannot compare when it comes to star power.
	Star power has value.
	So, I mean, it's just a terrible comparison.
	Let's, anyways, we're going to pull up a video, guys.
	So, Chris, in order to pull up the video, we're going to do it's in the list here in OBS.
	You're going to click the eye icon.
	It's the Tate, the first one, the first Tate one.
	No, watch this video.
	Read, read it.
	Tate.
	Yep.
	Oh, my God.
	And you're going to have to, let's see.
	I need to hide this.
	You need to wait.
	Wait, click, click on the tate.
	Like, click.
	No, no, no, no.
	Yep.
	Wait, that's weird.
	You don't see it?
	Is it not popping up for you?
	I think I have to hide the display capture.
	Or press play.
	Can you press play on the actual tape?
	Sorry, guys.
	We're doing it live.
	Oh, hit the wait.
	Next.
	No, go back to where you were.
	Sorry, guys, we're fucking doing it live.
	Yeah, okay, one over.
	No, one over.
	And also, do I worry if I'm too submissive?
	Will he not respect me?
	No, Get rid of that.
	Get rid of that.
	Get rid of that.
	That won't respect me, crap.
	That's not real.
	Is that real?
	You know what?
	So many women say to me, you're so, Andrew, you know what?
	You're so rich, but you're smart, and you're actually very intelligent.
	And I know you'd get really bored of a robot.
	And I'm sitting there thinking, bitch, I wish to God you were a robot.
	Shut the fuck up.
	We talk about star signs.
	Oh, yeah, I'm so glad.
	Tell me more about by Sagittarius Rising.
	Idiot.
	Give the fuck.
	Give me a robot.
	All men want robots.
	That's all we want.
	Four wives, robots, inshallah.
	Put the burg on.
	Yep.
	What are you talking about?
	We don't care.
	Two coffees.
	That's it.
	It's nice and easy.
	There's no such thing as too submissive.
	There's no such thing.
	I'm never going to look at a beautiful woman who does everything I say and go, you know what?
	You do too much of what I say.
	I want to go get some disagreeable people.
	Okay.
	Kylie, why don't we get your reaction to that?
	Bro, Andrew Tate has been growing on me recently.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Like, he keeps coming up on my For You page.
	And as much as I disagree with what he says, like, a lot of the time, he's just fucking funny.
	It's comedy.
	He's just hilarious to me now.
	Like, he always makes me laugh out loud every time I watch him now.
	The content, I just cannot relate because I'm a very like outgoing and assertive person.
	Like, I'm not submissive in the slightest.
	But at the same time, I kind of agree with what he's saying, and I understand where he's coming from with being too submissive.
	We were talking about this with Aline.
	Every guy wants a girl that can cook food and shut up and have a fat ass or something.
	That's all.
	It doesn't matter, but that's just not who I am.
	But everyone can have their opinions about that.
	Priscilla, your reaction to the video?
	How much money does this guy have?
	So much.
	I think.
	So much.
	Then I guess you could say what he wants.
	400.
	If he wants a robot, he can probably buy a robot.
	Well, I don't think he literally wants a robot.
	He can get anything that he wants.
	He wants a woman who is a robot.
	But this is not the standard for all men.
	So if you're looking at it like, oh, this is what all men can do, it's not.
	It's because he has a lot of money.
	Yes, Andrew Tate is certainly a very exceptional individual.
	He's very wealthy.
	He's incredibly welcome.
	Yeah, so if he was like some bum on the street that was like, I just want a robot.
	I just want her to go.
	Can you push the microphone closer to you?
	If he was a bum on the street that's like, I just want her to shut up.
	I just want a robot.
	Then you'd probably just put him in prison.
	What?
	What?
	The bum boy doesn't want that, but he just can't because he's a bum.
	The bum can't do it.
	Liv.
	Thoughts on reaction to the video?
	Okay, I'm like, I'm really confused.
	I mean, okay, so what was what am I reacting to?
	Like, what are you saying about rather having a submissive woman?
	Just the video, what he said.
	What do you think of the video in general?
	I mean, I feel like me and Kylie are kind of just at the same speed right now.
	Whatever he says is just fucking funny.
	Doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything he says.
	That video in particular, I mean, I don't necessarily agree with a guy having a girl that sits down and shuts the fuck up, but yeah, I don't know.
	I think all of his stuff is just comedy at this point.
	So, okay, you can acknowledge that it's funny, but in terms.
	He's not funny.
	You don't think he's funny?
	He's not funny.
	Fair enough.
	But in terms of what he's actually saying, do you take issue?
	Hold on, let me finish.
	Hold on.
	Let me finish.
	Would you say that you disagree with what he's saying?
	And if so, why?
	I mean, I don't agree and I don't disagree.
	Like, I know some guys are very assertive and they would rather have a submissive woman.
	And I know that guys who are very assertive should not have an assertive woman because that's just not going to end up very good.
	So, I mean, I think it depends on the guy and the girl.
	Do you consider yourself to be an assertive woman?
	I don't consider myself assertive or submissive.
	I think I'm very much in the middle.
	I'm not, yeah, I'm not overly assertive.
	I'll definitely speak up for myself, but I'm also not like, you sit down and shut the fuck up.
	So I'm very much in the middle.
	Got it.
	Leo?
	Your reaction?
	I think a girl is submissive to a guy she likes.
	She's not going to be trying to walk all over him if she wants him to be with her.
	Because a guy does not want a girl like that.
	Tristan?
	I mean, honestly, I think girls are that are too submissive and does whatever they got.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Got excited.
	The guy that, I don't know, I guess if a girl is just too submissive and just does whatever, you know, the guy wants, whatever the guy does, and you just kind of follows him like a puppy doll.
	He's kind of boring, you know, like kind of.
	I personally like a girl who's kind of yeah, things for yourself is kind of independent and kind of does their own thing.
	You know, you don't have to like lead them to do whatever, you know, their life.
	Like, hey, cook me a sandwich.
	Like, all right, go, go do this for me.
	Like, they should be doing their own thing.
	Like, no, sorry, I have, I actually have things to do today.
	You know, like, unless they're just, like, sitting at home, it's kind of just boring, you know.
	But Andrew Tate, obviously, him having money, he can just, if your girl wants a lifestyle where she can just, like, get paid by a dude, you know, everything gets paid by Andrew Tate, they'll be submissive.
	They'll do it.
	Some girls will.
	So basically, just most guys, and I would agree with this, most guys cannot pull that off.
	They cannot pull off that sort of dynamic.
	You gotta have some wealth or some very, you know, you're a very good looking dude, you know?
	Wait, what?
	Like you said, I don't think women care that much about looks.
	I don't think.
	I think, yeah, girls do care.
	Girls do care, but you could actually make the argument that women care more about looks.
	No.
	No.
	I care a fair amount about looks, but it's not like looks like that.
	But the thing is, is that all of you, when I asked, what percentage of men would you say you find attractive?
	All of you said 10.
	But you said walking on the street, not talking to them.
	But you said that.
	But I'm speaking just about physical attractiveness.
	You didn't say what percentage of men would we want to date.
	Right, but he's talking about that.
	But what I'm saying is, is that, I mean, they've actually done studies on this.
	So men actually rate women pretty much on the bell curve in terms of attractiveness.
	So it's like, I think they say, I think, I don't know.
	We have the stats somewhere on the computer, but it's not necessary to pull it up.
	And isn't it different for everybody?
	Like, some men love curvy women and some men love petite women.
	There's always many things.
	Like, with all the porn there is out there, I know that people like all sorts of different things, you know?
	What do you look for in a guy?
	Let's do it.
	Yeah, what are your standards?
	Humor, intelligence, money.
	See, the thing is, like, a lot of girls will say that they care about mostly responding, like, their personality.
	They care mostly about, you know, what, like, their humor.
	But some of them just say that and they really do care about looks more than they say, you know?
	Like, it's fine to, like, care about looks.
	Like, looks are matter for sure.
	Yeah, they matter.
	100%.
	100%.
	You can't be with someone you're not.
	It's like an attraction thing.
	Yes, you're not.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	Yeah, you have to be attractive.
	But people, I don't think it's like an objective thing.
	Like, I could say, oh, this person's attractive, this person's not attractive, and then you might have a whole different perspective.
	Yeah, no, but what I mean is you personally, you have to find the person attractive, like, or else it's just kind of like, why are you?
	That's the thing is I feel like you would be less likely to be attracted to someone who's, like, fucking ugly.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, that's pretty much what we're saying.
	Well, some people have different standards.
	Like, some people, some people just like ugly people, yeah.
	No, some people like fat asses, some people like small boobs, some people like big boobs, some people like red hair, some people like someone you want to be with, not like just someone you want to huggle, but ugly people need love too.
	Okay, I've watched a show, though, where they date basically in cubicles, and they can only talk for the first week, and then they finally meet each other.
	And I've definitely seen some people grow an attraction for each other based off personality, but once they meet, they're like, fuck.
	Physical work.
	Yeah.
	So it definitely plays into it.
	I'm not saying it doesn't, but yeah.
	It's huge.
	You can bullshit all day and be like, I don't care about how the guy looks.
	Like, yeah, maybe there's some girls that really do not care about one sec.
	One sec.
	If you get old, it's not even, don't even think about that.
	That's not even like nobody can see in the future.
	But like, you can bullshit all day and be like, oh, I don't, like, I don't care about looks, but yes, most women, most men, we care about physical looks.
	So, then what happens?
	Are you still gonna love her when she gets old?
	Okay, again, what do you look for in a guy?
	Yeah, he's an idea.
	I already said.
	Yeah, she said money.
	Humor intelligence, money.
	Humor intelligence, money.
	So, looks aren't even on the top.
	So, if he's butt-ass guy has those three, you're good.
	Yeah, I think that is a lie.
	I don't care.
	That's a lot of people who are not.
	Because that means he doesn't have all three, right?
	If he's ugly, but not if he's unhealthy, if not if he's fat, not if he doesn't eat well, then no.
	So, I don't think there are ugly people.
	I think there are lazy people, poor people, and unhealthy people.
	That's the same.
	There's ugly people.
	That's what I think.
	I don't think there are ugly people.
	I think there are poor people, unhealthy people.
	Do you think there's fat people and skinny people?
	Yeah.
	So, then you have to think there's ugly and skinny people.
	So, some guys love fat, and some women love that.
	Just some people are just born like that.
	It's not like they're just like, Yeah, I actually don't think that guys.
	I know there's chubby chasers, but like if they had the choice, if they had the choice, I don't know.
	Some people also, like, I mean, I don't want to say you can't help being poor, but it's also sometimes a really hard to come out of, but you can work that you could work on yourself in a way that's going to put you at an advantage.
	But it doesn't.
	If you're born ugly, you're born ugly.
	That's fast.
	There's like symmetry.
	Plastic surgery.
	No, no, no, no.
	Matter of fact, though, like you, if you are born with an ugly mug of a face, you are not changing it unless you get plastic surgery, like you said.
	But it's not like if there are lazy people, poor people cannot get plastic surgery.
	What?
	No.
	Correct.
	Like I'm saying, there are no ugly people.
	There are only poor people.
	You're not making any sense.
	How does that not make sense?
	I'm saying if you have money, you can have a lifestyle coach.
	You can have your hair done all the time.
	You can have your makeup done.
	So you're saying if you're poor, you're always going to be poor?
	No.
	Bro, I'm not ugly.
	I'm just poor.
	Those are like exclusive.
	Okay, we're going to change it up just a little bit.
	We're going to change this up just a tad.
	But sort of related.
	Is it harder to be physically attractive as a guy or as a girl?
	I think it's like equal.
	Well, actually, girls are not going to be able to do that.
	No, it's way harder for women to be attractive than men.
	It's way harder.
	How?
	Wait, like two other people are conventional.
	Wait, what?
	Like, like to the other sex based type?
	Basically, it's like, do guys have a better weight?
	It's like girls wear makeup, right?
	What'd you do to wake up this morning?
	You know, sorry, sorry.
	It's like girls can wear makeup so they can kind of mask whatever it is they are insecure about.
	Some girls do.
	But guys don't really do that.
	They can't wear it.
	Honestly, like wearing makeup cool, but James Charles.
	Okay, so I'll say a couple things.
	So I think women are actually more picky physically.
	I think men, okay, so generally in terms of who is deemed as having a physically attractive body or physique, so the body fat percentage range for women is actually wider than it is for men in terms of what is found physically attractive.
	So you have a woman who's just could be thin, stick thin, she's still attractive, all the way to curvy.
	And I'm using that term very generously.
	People have misappropriated the term curvy.
	Let me just say that.
	So men will find a very big range in terms of body fat percentage attractive.
	But if you ask most women, like ideal body for a guy, masculine.
	They're going to look at a thin guy who has no muscular development and be like, nah.
	there's also girls like if they're too muscular like on you know fucking top tier bodybuilders like yeah but but like but also like a guy who a girl who's curvy her male equivalent Dad bod.
	I think it's even like a girl who's curvy, her male equivalent is fat.
	And she like.
	She's a thick bitch.
	Yeah.
	So I mean, and I think as a guy to be, to be deemed as having a physically attractive body, you need to have, you need to be fit, athletic, or muscular.
	I agree.
	No, I completely agree with what you're doing.
	So, and it's, whereas a woman can, the untrained woman body, most men will still deem her body attractive.
	Yeah, so could it be better?
	Sure.
	Could she be a bit more fit?
	Sure.
	But like, the same cannot be said for men, I think.
	Like, the untrained male body is like, if you're just a thin guy.
	Skinny fat.
	Skinny, skinny, fat.
	Like, you do not, no girl's going to be like, you're attractive.
	No, I completely agree.
	Yeah, because like, you can always, you can argue, yeah, there's some girls that like skinny guys, there's some guys that like dad bods, but you can do that all day, but the majority likes a masculine dude.
	When I was like a twig, I did not, I just was not getting any type of girls, no.
	And then like, I completely saw a different change.
	Like once I started working on myself, you know, and like, and then that was just kind of the point where I realized like, dang, like, you really have to be like at a certain like, you know, window for a guy for girls to start finding you like attractive, you know?
	There's very few women that will find a skinny guy or a fat guy attractive.
	There are some girls that probably don't care.
	Like emo chicks.
	That are like in bands and shit.
	They want like a skinny waif of a man.
	I'd rather have a skinny man than a fat man.
	That's true for sure.
	Well that but would you rather have like a muscular man over either?
	Yeah.
	No, it wasn't until recently that I was thinking about how like difficult it was for men who were like in the gym who were working out all the time because I always knew how women like held expectations for themselves.
	And I was always like, oh, it's like so much harder for women because we have all these unrealistic body types.
	Like people are anorexic, like people are bulimic.
	And it wasn't until recently when I was like talking about it with like a guy that really struggled with that.
	And I was like, wow, that's actually really hard for men also because you're always comparing yourselves to those other huge guys that are probably on like testosterone.
	Like in the gym.
	Here, right here.
	Exactly.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	That was me when I was in the middle of the moment.
	I feel like most guys look at themselves and they're like, damn, like I'm too skinny.
	That was me.
	Like I'm too skinny.
	Like I need to lift heavy things.
	Like I need to be better than that guy.
	I need to be able to defend my girl.
	Like I need to be able to take care of myself.
	Like I want to look like that.
	So I feel like it's definitely harder for a guy to be that attractive.
	I'll also just say this.
	A woman not needs step foot into a gym to have an attractive body.
	That's small.
	But girls are both.
	But I mean, I guess a guy could be doing calisthenics at the fucking park or whatever.
	But a guy, for a guy's body to be deemed attractive, like he's going to have to have some muscle.
	I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	But I mean.
	No, yeah, that's definitely.
	I mean, I guess through sports, you can kind of put it on.
	A girl could date either a skinny or fat guy if they want, but they prefer someone that looks good.
	Same with guys.
	They prefer someone that looks good.
	And you've seen what they can do with makeup.
	It can make you look like a different, complete person.
	You don't see almost any guys.
	I mean, now I guess it's bigger, but like almost any guy's wearing makeup.
	But girls, they can change their entire look.
	You know, catfishing.
	You can put one little baby wipe.
	They're different versions.
	Take her swimming on the first day.
	Exactly.
	Oh, my God.
	Do you guys like girls that wear makeup like a shit ton?
	I already know Brian's this.
	No.
	Right?
	Honestly.
	Because you can tell if they wear a lot of makeup.
	Anything more than some eyeshadow or eyeliner, mascara.
	I'm disappointed.
	If it's more, I'm just.
	I don't like makeup.
	Unless they do it like on occasion.
	Like sometimes they do a fucking wedding.
	Like on the daily, if you're putting just a fuck ton, it's like, okay, let's not do that.
	Yeah, I'm not.
	I'm not doing it.
	No, if you hug her and her face comes off on your shirt, I think that's an issue.
	Or like if she spends the night and like you see her face on the pillow, like it's just an entire thing.
	Yeah, there's like photos of that.
	Yeah.
	Or I honestly, like, I don't like how it looks, but also if you're kissing a girl and it's like rubbing off on your face.
	I don't know about you guys.
	I'm a little prone to acne.
	So if her shit is getting on my face, I'm going to break out.
	And it's like, I genuinely do not care.
	Like, maybe there are some guys that want their girl all dolled up, but like, I think most guys do not care.
	Do not care.
	I'm so disappointed in myself.
	Have you ever told a girl that you like the natural look or you like the no makeup look?
	And they say, well, actually, you know, we still, we're still wearing makeup, but it's the.
	I'm like.
	Have you ever had natural beauty for sure, bro?
	Nah, I mean, I'm disappointed in myself for even dating someone a while ago that like wore that much makeup, you know, because it's just like, why did I do that?
	Like, it's just not.
	It's about natural beauty.
	Like, if you're trying to like become a different person with your makeup, then you wipe that, and then it's just like, you're not that attractive.
	It's like, why do that to yourself?
	Just be you.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Don't try to always put on a shit ton of makeup, trying to look a certain way.
	Is makeup a lie?
	Is it lying?
	It depends on how much they put on.
	How much?
	Yeah.
	You know, if you put on lip gloss, you're not a completely different person.
	But if you put on like a whole face and you sit there and you like literally contour and like sculpt your face in a different way.
	You might be.
	I mean, if that's like your niche, and if that's something that's making you money, like people on the internet doing it, then you know, it's more power to them.
	But like, you know, it's not like needed most of the time.
	Word.
	Chris, why don't we do a couple of we're going to do some chats really quick.
	I'll pull them up if you want to just keep it on live just to observe if we get any coming in.
	Okay, Stiffmeister.
	I guess this was from earlier.
	Stiffmeister, that's funny.
	Stiffmeister.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to ten.
	Okay, we could do that really quick, Kylie.
	I would say seven.
	I would also say.
	I think it depends on who is looking at me.
	Like if it's an old guy.
	No, just yourself.
	You looking at yourself in the mirror.
	Oh, me?
	Oh, I'm a ten.
	Me looking at myself?
	I love myself.
	Brian.
	Stop.
	Liv.
	Yeah, I mean, personally, I would say I'm a six or a seven.
	I wouldn't rate myself a perfect 10.
	You're a 10.
	Thank you.
	Yes, queen.
	Okay.
	She officially.
	She's definitely a yes.
	She's definitely a yes queen.
	Leo?
	I say like a seven or eight.
	I'm not that tall, which I think would make me a lot more.
	Can you just so we can see the face, can you just scoot your microphone a little bit?
	I got you, bro.
	Maybe.
	Wait, turn it the other way and then scoot it.
	Yeah, okay, there we go.
	Look at that.
	Wow, okay, that was weird.
	Okay.
	Pause.
	Pause.
	Tristan.
	I would say if me and you were tall, we'd be like fucking.
	I would say eight and a half.
	Eight and a half.
	If I was taller, I could maybe say nine.
	How tall are you?
	Five, eight.
	Basically six.
	Yeah, if you're basically.
	Wait, girl, Morgan.
	I thought Morgan said you were five nine.
	Yeah, that's why literally my friend commented on it, and she was like, I mean, my friend DM'd me and was like, hey, you're not 5'9.
	You stopped the cat.
	I'm like, bro, I am not.
	I think she just got my height wrong.
	It's not like she measures me, but not my height.
	And you said, so, what was your answer to it again?
	I would say 8-1.
	If I was taller, I'd say maybe 9, but like, girls are so about height, I guess.
	Most girls are like, oh my God, if he's 5'8, he's short.
	Yeah, so you're fine.
	Short King.
	I do want to talk.
	We'll talk about height.
	Let me just get through the super chats, but remind me if I forget to talk about height stuff.
	And then, okay, I'll rate myself.
	Let's rate each other now.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I know.
	My just like I'm fucking mad.
	I give myself like six, 6.9 on a good day.
	I'm very pale, so I mean.
	Yeah, and I need to lose a little bit of weight.
	gotten gotten a little chubby you know so uh working on it trying to i'll train you yeah It's the food, bro.
	You should have watched what you eat.
	Yeah, no, I've actually lost.
	I'm on a program right now.
	I've lost like five pounds, you know.
	So I got another 15 to go, but I'm getting there.
	He made some good progress, too.
	He's lost some good weight.
	Okay, we got the American Network Against Labia Placedy.
	That's my nonprofit organization.
	Hashtag all labia matter.
	Yes, all labia do matter.
	Any ladies out there that feel insecure, self-conscious, don't?
	Guys love the labias.
	I swear I've heard that girls can get their labia waxed off.
	Wax?
	What?
	Yeah, like they can get like they've gotten the wax around there.
	Are you talking about hair?
	Yeah, well, like if they try to go wax down there and they put the wax, you know, too close to, you know, and they just wax it off.
	I don't think it comes in.
	It could hurt.
	I guess it'd like rip it.
	Like rip the sand.
	Yeah, that's just.
	Yeah, no, that's why I would never, you know, even mess with waxing.
	Not because I have a labia.
	But just anywhere down there would just sound like it was painful.
	Dude, it was so painful.
	I've gotten a bikini wax before, and it literally felt like I was on fire.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I just.
	Okay.
	But yeah, this is my non-profit organization, American Network Against Labia Plasty.
	You know, we're setting it up.
	We're going to set it up.
	We're going to get a website.
	I tried to get anal.org, but the guy wanted like 10K.
	So it's in the works.
	It's in the works.
	But yeah.
	Guys, come on.
	Let's not shame women with large labia.
	Stop calling them roasties.
	Stop with the wizard sleeve.
	Stop with the beef curtains.
	It's really inappropriate.
	And if there's any women who, I'm not going to lie, I'm a fan.
	DM me.
	Okay.
	We feel you.
	Let's see.
	He likes the RB sandwich.
	Yeah.
	Facts.
	Okay.
	He likes it coming out of the bikinis.
	The bigger, the better.
	I'll just say that.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	NDNA.
	Where's Mike Davis?
	Is he still here?
	Yeah, Mike D. NDN Bala with the $5 soup chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Honest thoughts on guys with no IG?
	Girls might individually okay, but would a group of girls when together act like it's weird and laugh?
	Wait, what?
	Instagram?
	Honest thoughts on guys with no IG?
	She's talking about if guys have no Instagram.
	If guys don't have Instagram, Okay.
	Uh thoughts, girls?
	Um I only think it's a little weird because I feel like everyone has social media and it's just like kind of how people nowadays connect.
	It's like just an easier way.
	And I know for a fact that like if like most girls when they're talking to a new guy, they're like, oh, I'm gonna like go through his Instagram.
	Like I'm just gonna look through all of his pictures real quick.
	Like see if see if he's like really cute.
	And if you don't have an Instagram then it's kind of like oh it's just it's just a little surprising.
	Yeah.
	Surprising for sure.
	Well I'm 28 so it's not surprising when a guy around my age has no Instagram and I think of it as fine.
	I don't mind.
	Um I mean I feel like guys aren't really even if they do have wait hold on live can somebody get her an energy drink?
	Can we get her an energy drink?
	No you good?
	Okay go ahead continue continue.
	I feel like even if a guy does have an Instagram most of the time it's like a big known joke that like their last picture is when they're like 14 holding a fish that they caught.
	But it's sold.
	But if they don't have an Instagram, you know, it's whatever, I guess.
	Okay.
	And I don't think anyone on this side of the table really has do we have thoughts on this?
	I mean like if girls were to have no Instagram?
	I think that's well sure we can answer it from that point of view.
	Do you guys want to give your take?
	I mean if girl if a girl has no Instagram I don't really care to be honest.
	I wouldn't I wouldn't care but do you think it's a pro or do you think it's a pro if she has no Instagram?
	Oh, if it's a pro kind of kind of she ain't out there, you know yeah, I mean, but still you could, could be out there, like she could have like deleted it and just like moved somewhere.
	But like what is she hiding?
	If she has no Instagram?
	No Instagram, that's a little weird, a little sus.
	But if she has, like she's just like low-key and doesn't really care about social media, like that, then I mean that's probably better.
	But for sure I feel like girls like if they see like a guy with a blue check and like a crap ton of followers, like oh my god, this guy that I'm talking to, I feel like now a big thing is like snap score, that's a big thing.
	Or like some girls will talk about, they're like oh, he's cute, but he has like a million snap score or something.
	Or like vice versa, with guys they probably had us like 14, though yeah no, I know I'm just saying snap score yeah oh snapchat yeah yeah, I don't, I don't even use that.
	I have it, but like I don't use it.
	Yeah um yeah, as far as for me, it's probably.
	Actually, I think if a girl doesn't have an Instagram, that's a pro.
	So she ain't got streets, I got another girl.
	That's like social, so like no bullspit with the five dollar super chat.
	Thank you man.
	Uh, girl with only fans, do you split your money with your boyfriend?
	Also, ask the panel if the can you okay?
	Girl with only fans, do you split?
	Split your money with your boyfriend.
	Also, ask the panel if the money should be split if their partner is making OF money.
	I think I should answer last.
	I think you guys should give your opinions about whether or not you should split it with your partner and then I'll say what I actually do.
	Okay.
	If you're doing all the work, no.
	If okay, but if you guys make an agreement, like let's say you go to the relationship not, you know, not having the girl on OnlyFans and then she does it, then I feel like there can be made an agreement that like, you know, you makes you also, that could be put to dates, that could be put to trips because like you didn't come in the relationship doing that.
	If you come in the relationship already doing, you know, going with a girl that has OnlyFans, then I feel like you have no right to be like, oh, no, you have to give me some of that, you know?
	Yeah.
	But if you're doing, let's say, a relationship OnlyFans, for sure, split it.
	Yeah.
	Makes sense.
	I don't know.
	I don't really have a take on this just because I have not encountered a scenario where I've even been on a date with a girl who has OnlyFans.
	So I think it should be split if he's splitting all of his money with her.
	What?
	What do you mean?
	It's girls with OnlyFans.
	Do you split your money with your boyfriend?
	Well, is your boyfriend going to split his money with you?
	Oh, you mean like from like a gentle joke?
	Right.
	No, what the fuck?
	Is she helping?
	No, what the fuck?
	Wait, do you, do you only do OnlyFans?
	Like, like, do you, like, is that your only source of income?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	It's a little side hustle.
	Touching a bag.
	Yeah.
	What's the most you've made in a month?
	Three to four thousand.
	Is that like pretty consistent or no?
	Yeah, well, around now when I've like stopped.
	I stopped posting for a bit, but now it's like around 2.5.
	Do you like market it like on social media or something?
	Not really.
	The only reason that I got any traction in the first place is because I was a streamer and so people like followed me from that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you just plug it in?
	Yeah.
	I was just like, I literally posted it on my story once and I was like, hey, so I did this because, but like back then I didn't have another source of income and so like I was living in the dorm and I did not want a shitty minimum wage job.
	I feel that.
	So I was like, you know what?
	Might as well.
	I'm assuming you don't post like weird ass shit.
	Well it depends.
	Definitely weird ass shit.
	Like do you post like sex videos?
	No.
	I feel like to the right feet pics right or some shit like that.
	Is there limits on OnlyFans?
	No, I don't know.
	No, no, okay.
	Well I didn't know if like there's things that would like have to escalate to like pornhub or something that you could get like I guess in trouble for but no.
	I mean as long as you just like don't scam people as long as you're like yeah this is what you're paying for and they pay it and you send it then it's not really a problem.
	Wait Lib, do you want to you want to answer?
	Should they if they're doing like joint shit on OnlyFans should they split the money like a couple if a couple's doing it together?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But what if she's doing all the work?
	Like it's just her own.
	Okay.
	And they're dating?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She's doing all of it.
	Um yeah, I mean I think it's definitely her money if she's putting her body out there.
	But like that I guess that just comes down to the boyfriend, the girlfriend's agreement.
	If she if she perfect like want if she's like, hey, I'm doing OnlyFans and you know, I'll give you half and he's cool with it, then that's their own agreement.
	But otherwise I think if she's putting herself out there, then it's her money.
	Girls aren't.
	It's your social security connected to that account.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's your money.
	I have a question.
	Alright guys, would you guys okay?
	She does OnlyFans fine, but do you does it matter what she posts?
	Because for me it's a for sure thing.
	Like if she posts certain shit it's kind of 100%.
	It's like if she's posting news like Left for you.
	I'm out.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But if it's like, if she's fucking just doing feedback, doing the toes fucking weirdos are paying for it.
	Exactly.
	Catch a bag.
	That's like I don't be buying that sell nudes anymore.
	Like, I talked, my boyfriend and I are very open about it.
	Like, I was like, hey, like, I have an OnlyFans, I just want to let you know.
	And instead of being like, what?
	Like, I want you to stop posting.
	He was like, hell yeah, let's do joint content.
	And I was like, fuck yeah.
	I just join content.
	I would love to do joint content.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We interlock our toes together.
	Just like this.
	But I don't like Venmo him the money that I've earned from it.
	I just like take him out on nice dates.
	I like pay for his lunch.
	You know, it's really simple.
	Like, it's just if he's comfortable with me doing that, I'm like, well, like, I appreciate it.
	So, well, that answers the question.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Next super chat.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
	Hey, man, thank you for the support.
	Much appreciated.
	Grats, me, boys.
	Okay, thank you, Mike Davis.
	Women care a lot less about looks than men, not because they're less vain, but because they put more value into other vain things like money and status.
	Most women date for attention, not love.
	Okay, Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis coming in with the heat.
	The heat.
	I can open up to the panel if you guys want to say anything to that.
	Most women is a stretch, but I say there's a good amount of women.
	Like, I see a lot of women, but like really old dudes that are not attractive.
	I'm like, girl, I know you don't find that dude attracting.
	You must have money for sure or a good status wherever he's from, you know?
	So I know where he's coming from.
	Yeah, I've dated both.
	I've dated people with money and I've dated people without.
	And it's not really a big thing to me whether they have a certain status or not.
	Yeah, I really could not care less about that.
	Like, I really don't give a fuck about money.
	It depends on your goal.
	Like, do you want to marry this person?
	Do you just want to date this person?
	She's chasing a bag.
	No, literally, I'm doing OnlyFans, but she's chasing the bag.
	No, I'm being practical.
	Like, giving a massage.
	She's like, how much she made?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, I don't think that.
	I don't think that a guy, like, if you guys are, I mean, if you're really thinking about the future, then, I mean, obviously, a guy has to bring something in.
	But it's, I mean, for me, it's not like you have to make more than me for me to date you.
	Wait, but you're 21?
	I'm 20.
	You're 20.
	Well, I feel like at your age, money doesn't matter so much yet.
	We're still really building ourselves, but I was talking in her case.
	If I was her age, yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, money's definitely want a guy that's going to be able to provide, yeah.
	Like you, like someone like Mike Davis.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Mike David.
	I mean, he's pulling his money on super chats.
	So Mike Davis somewhere else.
	Hold on.
	I think I got something from Mike Davis here.
	I'm a fucking legend.
	That's you, Mike Davis.
	Okay.
	So moving on, we wanted to talk a bit about height.
	So both you guys are.
	What are your heights?
	5'8.
	I'm like 5'7 ⁇ .
	5'8-5'7.
	5'6-5'7.
	Yeah, 5'7.
	5'8 on a good date.
	Okay, so Tristan is 5'8.
	Leo, you're 5'7-ish.
	I guess it's my girlfriend, I'm 5'9.
	It's a good thing.
	So have you guys encountered because of your height, have you guys encountered difficulties in dating related to that?
	Or have you had girls say, you know, if you were a bit taller?
	Or just has it been an issue for you guys when it comes to dating?
	No.
	Honestly, I think it's a flex of a guy with the taller girl.
	Yeah, I mean.
	To be honest, it is.
	I had some like some tallest chicken.
	She's hella bomb.
	Like, I'm down.
	sure you'll get some people being like oh short king over there has a girl taller than him but like that's a flex like i don't i wouldn't care what anyone else is saying if the girl is taller than me and i was with them right but so you guys don't care about the girl's height but have you encountered girls caring about your height no unless it's like some super tall chig i've heard it brought up obviously it's been brought up but not by like girls that have I don't,
	I guess girls, if they really did care, they wouldn't really pursue you.
	Yeah, they wouldn't give you the time of the day.
	Yeah, but no, for sure, like, if I was pursuing a girl, I've never gone the, oh, you're, like, too short.
	Or I've never gone the like.
	Plus, I don't think a girl would really tell you straight up.
	A lot of girls aren't short.
	Yeah, they wouldn't straight up tell you.
	But I'm sure it's a factor in some girls for sure.
	She can't be too short.
	She can't be too short for you.
	Yeah.
	But she, I guess, for sure.
	For Leo.
	So what's too short for Leo?
	Like, dude, if she's like fucking some little ass, like.
	Because think about it, dude.
	If you want kids, you don't want some small ass, little ass kid.
	I want genetics.
	For someone like me, that's like my height.
	If I had some tall ass girl, I want a D1.
	My kid's going to be fucking.
	She's got to provide the height.
	There's certain aspects that are going to have.
	Halves.
	Halves.
	You have to have for genetics.
	If you don't, you're not getting cussed.
	I don't know, guys.
	If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	Oh, you're like, short girls.
	You got to be like 5'1 ⁇ .
	4, 4, 11, 4'10.
	I feel like tall guys, for sure, they like shorter girls for some reason.
	Makes them feel like a lot of people.
	And you know what actually?
	Even taller.
	The shorter the girl is, the more she cares about height, interestingly enough.
	That is very true.
	Like a girl who's five foot probably cares more about the guy being six foot than a girl who's like five seven.
	But the girl who's five seven understands that like I mean most guys aren't that tall.
	Yeah, but like, okay, looking at girls who are like five seven and up, they understand that a guy's usually probably gonna start around five seven and keep going up.
	Whereas a girl who's four something is like, nobody's gonna be shorter than me.
	So just the taller it is, the better.
	Yeah, I have actually, I kind of, that theory is kind of, I don't know if I agree with it because I feel like I've heard a lot of girls who are on the taller end, you know, 5'7, 5'8, I guess 5'9 even, you know, they always usually say, I want a guy that's taller than me.
	Like if they get that question, like where they're like, what do you look for in a girl?
	Oh, they still care for sure.
	Yeah, they still care.
	But they have less hope.
	Like, I know girls, okay, girls that I went to high school with on the volleyball team, they were like, look, I would love to have a tall guy, but it might be out of my cards.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess the point I'm trying to make with the short girls wanting a tall guy is, is a girl who's 5'8, she might say, I want a guy who's 6'.
	A girl who's 5'0, 4'11, or 4'11, she's gonna say, 'I want a guy who's 6'.
	She's not gonna have the same, like, well, the 5'8-girl wants a guy who's only 4 inches taller.
	The girl who's 5' wants a guy who's a whole foot taller.
	So not everyone.
	Not everyone, but just that's something I've definitely encountered.
	I'd take a smart, tall man.
	I mean, I'd take a smart, short man over a stupid tall man.
	But there's both.
	That's small, tall man.
	I would rather have a smart, short man than a tall...
	She picked smarts over height.
	Yeah.
	Smart over height.
	Okay.
	Why not a smart tall man?
	I want that mostly.
	Oh, okay.
	There we go.
	That's what we're arguing.
	There we go.
	Yeah, see?
	There we go.
	Taller man.
	Yeah, honestly, you know, earlier I said if her height doesn't start with 4'11, I'll go with a dwarf.
	I'm just saying.
	If there's any dwarves, if there's any dwarves, you gotta go to Perry with a damn thing.
	Here's my type.
	A dwarf, legally a midget, with a large labia.
	I think it's under 410.
	Boom.
	Yes, yes.
	Any bad bitch midges watching.
	Yeah.
	If there's any dwarves, if there's any female dwarves in Santa Barbara, DM me at one time.
	Harry Winkle Lane, man.
	Go shopping there.
	Go shopping there.
	That's literally a midget homes.
	There we go.
	I'm down.
	I'm not even.
	It's not even a conquest thing.
	I'm down.
	You know what you're thinking, though?
	You can buy kids' clothing.
	Okay.
	Cheaper.
	Baby gap, baby shoes.
	No, my girl literally has baby kids.
	Yeah, I shop kids' shoes.
	Yeah, get her to light up sketchers.
	Like, if I try to get her Jordans, I can just get kids' shoes, and it's so way cheaper.
	I want to buy some Healies, bro.
	Healies.
	Yeah.
	Holy shit.
	Some Healies, yeah.
	My buddy's made a song about Heelys.
	Anyways, that's one thing.
	Anyways, that's a whole nother thing.
	Yeah, it's getting late.
	Okay, so do we have any, I think we got, oh, video.
	Let's pull up the next Tate reaction video.
	And we're going to end here in about 10, 15 minutes, guys.
	If you guys want, get your super chats in.
	We have maybe 10, 15 more minutes to go.
	All right.
	Have you had a serious relationship?
	I have many concurrent serious relationships as we speak.
	Are you calm?
	No, because that means they can talk to other dudes.
	That's fucking haram.
	That's atrocious.
	That's disgusting.
	Throughout the majority of human history, female promiscuity has been absolutely frowned upon.
	Only in the Western world we're going to pretend it's an okay thing.
	Every single culture since the dawn of human time, and every single place on the planet has said that female promiscuity is disgusting to the point where females were executed for it.
	In most of the world today, they should be.
	Get the rocks.
	Abdul?
	Yeah.
	Get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	In most of the world today, it's still frowned upon.
	It's unacceptable.
	Whereas every single king insulted and sheikh since the dawn of human time had multiple women.
	Men are allowed multiple women.
	Women are not allowed multiple men because if a woman has multiple men, you cannot ensure paternity.
	I can walk and have 10 wives behind me.
	That's perfectly acceptable.
	So if a woman has 10 men, it's disgusting.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Okay, Kylie thoughts.
	I mean, I'm a serial monogamous.
	I would prefer to only have one man, and I would never cheat on him ever.
	Like, I feel like cheating is more disgusting than having multiple people.
	That's just my opinion.
	I think it's the same thing, like, with what I said before.
	Like, if the guy has money and he wants to have a bunch of women and take care of them, then I'm okay with that.
	But if, and if he doesn't want the women to be with anybody, that makes sense.
	It's resources.
	It makes sense.
	But if they're not providing anything, then I'll just have sex with whoever I want.
	um yeah i mean i mean every time i i always get confused after she goes first Okay, would okay.
	If a guy had like a whole bunch of girls.
	It's just your reaction to the video that we just watched.
	Do you care about guys having a bunch of women?
	We all watch the same video.
	Yeah.
	If a guy has a bunch of women, I mean, I get what he's saying about like the paternity.
	Like, if a guy has a bunch of women, you know who the dad is.
	Whereas if a girl has a bunch of guys, it's like oh, you know, so there is some truth in what he's saying.
	But I feel like personally, I'm not the one either to have like a bunch of guys.
	I'd rather have one.
	And if I do, I'm not going to cheat.
	But yeah, basically.
	Do you guys have any take on the video?
	100%.
	Me and him actually how to talk about this, but I'm going to let him go first because I know exactly what he's going to say.
	I don't want to steal his.
	I mean, I want someone to ask him what he thinks he's going to think when he has a daughter.
	Like, I fuck with everything he says.
	I don't agree with having a bunch of girls and, like, have, and, like, because he wants to have a bunch of kids with them.
	He wants to have a bunch of kids with them.
	And, um, it's like a weird family dynamic if he does have kids with them.
	It's just kind of fucked if you were to have a daughter and you have a bunch of girlfriends.
	Because it's going to like fuck up her mental, right?
	And then fucking forgot the question.
	But no, I mean, I'd rather prefer to be with one girl that's like super chill.
	Because to be able to handle a bunch of girls, it's too much energy that you're putting out.
	I'd rather focus on other things than having 10 girlfriends and doing all that shit.
	Tristan?
	Yeah, I agree with him.
	I mean, I get the perspective of thinking of it, if you have a daughter, would you want her to be with a guy that has like 10 other girls?
	No.
	I mean, most guys wouldn't want that for their daughter.
	But for me, I think I would prefer to just have one girl.
	I think the girls not being able to really have like, and not saying not being able to, but like being frowned upon for having too many guys.
	You know, I get it.
	Like, I get it.
	But guys are like praised for having several girls.
	You know, that's kind of just like the nature of how people are thinking now.
	You know, they're still thinking that way.
	I'm not saying it's right, but that's just the matter of the fact how people look at it.
	Yeah, guys definitely don't want a girl that's ran through.
	That's ran through.
	It's true.
	They don't.
	They don't prefer it.
	Some guys will be with them.
	Those guys probably don't get as much girls as the other guys, but.
	And if you're a girl and you're going with this guy and you know that he has several girls, you know, most likely she's just chasing the bag, you know?
	Like, what's his name that owns—God, what's his name?
	He owns that, like, Ignite.
	What's his name?
	Dan Bilzerian.
	Dan Bilzerian.
	He has so many girls with him all the time.
	I don't know if he hooks up with them, but like.
	He's literally the modern day Hugh Hefner and he has like all these girls and they're there for the lifestyle.
	They're there for the fun and they're not there for a relationship.
	But if you're in the scenario where a guy's hiding a whole bunch of girls and he just makes you feel like you're the only one, that's fucked up.
	Yeah.
	It's fucked up.
	100%.
	But if some, like she, like, for example, she, her, she wouldn't really care.
	She'd like, if he's going to provide that type of lifestyle, she'd be on the Danzerian boat.
	So there's some girls that don't really care, but I feel like most girls would rather prefer being with one specific person, building a relationship with them and a family with them for the future.
	Most people want that, but then I just look at it as I'm looking way ahead where now the guy is like 60 years old and we're both 60 years old and he's still attracted to 20 year olds.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's like not natural for him to only want to have sex with me when I'm 60 years old.
	So would you be okay with that?
	And yes, I would.
	What?
	Wait, so you would be with a guy.
	Like if he wanted to sleep with whoever he is.
	You'd be king in the house.
	You do realize you wouldn't have any type of like real connection with him, right?
	No, if we have, like, for, like my cousin, she's in a, she's in an ethical, non-monogamous relationship where they are committed to one another, but they're allowed to have sex with other people.
	That's so weird.
	Because relationships.
	Both of them.
	Both of them.
	And because relationships and, I mean, sex and love doesn't always intertwine.
	Like we were saying earlier.
	Like love and sex doesn't always go together.
	Sometimes it's just a physical thing.
	So then you don't need to be dating them if you're just trying to fuck someone.
	I did not expect that from you at all.
	Wait, what are you assuming?
	I mean, I'm not assuming anything, but I just, I guess you, the way you're talking about like personality, you cared about personality, and then you're like, yeah, but like if a dude was like fucking another girl while I was dating.
	I think not if I didn't know about it.
	If he cheated on me.
	But if he told you, you'd be okay.
	But if he, if he wanted to.
	Because a man wants to naturally spread his seed.
	A woman.
	I get that.
	You know what I mean?
	I know what you mean.
	In the nature of the.
	And just natural.
	So that's just how I feel.
	Just because it's natural doesn't mean you can't have your own.
	Well, it'd be better to be with a committed person, but like, for example, like I massaged a 70-year-old man who was like, oh, I've been married for, I've been married for 40 years.
	And I was like, oh, that's great.
	And he's like, yeah, it's really not working out.
	So it's not.
	There's probably other issues in the relationship besides just.
	Right, but I just think naturally, like, it's just not.
	It's like it would be nice to commit yourself and build with one person, but it's more about commitment.
	So if you could find someone that wants to commit with you, then that's different.
	And then if you decide, oh, I'm not happy.
	I'm not satisfied in the relationship because we're old now.
	And I bet, like, for example, like the sugar baby thing, I know there's a bunch of married men on those sugar babies.
	Oh, he's a little bit.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they are discreet.
	And they're cheating.
	They are cheating.
	And those women do not know.
	Listen, though, listen.
	There's also sugar mamas too, but like that, that all comes down to like they're losing their spark, I guess we were talking about earlier.
	You know, that little feeling fades sometimes for some people.
	You know, if you don't spice it up, you don't, like, after being together for so long, it's just like there's changes, you know, it's exciting.
	You know, changes, like, you want to look for change.
	You want to, you know, if you're not keeping with change, you're being boring.
	You know, after that many years, you're that old, you know, I get it.
	Yeah, there's the guy or the girl are going to get bored and they're going to seek for someone else.
	They can, you know, something change, something new.
	They're going to look for that.
	Costumes.
	Yeah.
	The costumes.
	They're just spicing.
	You know what?
	Start doing some kinky shit.
	That's the solution.
	Or some, for example, like some couples want to bring a third person in the bedroom.
	I'm way too jealous for that.
	Yeah, no, thank you.
	Okay, right now, but you're like young right now and you're early in your relationship.
	Think like you're in a relationship for 30 years, 40 years.
	Okay.
	Okay, I'm not saying that's okay, but like you would bring a guy in?
	Fuck no.
	What if she wanted it?
	Most of the time when a guy asks for a threesome, they want to bring another girl in.
	Which I'm not saying like right now.
	Personally, though, I don't think I'd want to bring another guy in.
	I wouldn't either.
	Yeah, I would rather have another girl.
	Cool, you heard that.
	Nah, Brian, I know for a fact you love that, bro.
	Yeah, bro.
	I'm not saying I want one.
	I don't want one, but if it came down to it.
	A sword fight, man.
	The sword fight.
	Nah.
	Well, okay, so threesomes.
	Straight up no for the dude.
	Even a girl, though, I'd rather only disappoint one woman at a time.
	So I mean, I mean, that's heroic.
	You wouldn't have enough time for both.
	But yeah, two seconds here, two seconds here.
	I would do it.
	My girlfriend would have to convince me to do it.
	She'd have to set it up.
	I tried.
	I've tried.
	It's just fun.
	It's honestly fucking funny.
	It would be better if she were to set it up.
	In a relationship, I would never.
	I would never, but like.
	I would be the outside person, maybe.
	Oh, like the one that they asked to do it with them.
	Like crying in the corner, masturbating.
	No, yeah, I'm filming it.
	No, like, because it's usually two people that are in a relationship and then an outside person that they ask.
	Like, I feel like I might be, that I would be maybe okay with if I was single, you know.
	But if I was in a relationship, I would never want to do that ever.
	Wow.
	Word.
	Word.
	Okay.
	That's funny.
	So we got, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
	Let's do a couple super chats.
	I'll just pull it up.
	Mike Davis, with the $10 super chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Kylie is beautiful.
	Too bad she has a man, or I'd follow her OnlyFans.
	I'm not going to fund another man's nice dinners.
	Ditch the wimp and get with a pimp.
	All right, that's Mike Davis shooting.
	No, that's completely reasonable, dude.
	Someone on my OnlyFans is like, yeah, I just got married last week.
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	I was like, wait, are you serious?
	Like, have you been with this person the entire time that you're subbing to me?
	And he's like, oh, yeah.
	I had no idea.
	I don't even want to know.
	Most likely old, though.
	I can tell you he has SPH, though.
	He has small penis humiliation kink.
	So maybe his wife just doesn't want to put up with that.
	Wait, wait, he has.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you've seen it.
	He's like.
	And then Mike Davis.
	Brian, I'm just looking out for you, man.
	Continue describing your type, and Chris Hansen will be at your door.
	Listen, just to be clear, 4-11, adult, like an adult dwarf.
	Okay, that's my type.
	Just saying, with large label, yeah.
	DM me.
	But thank you, Mike Davis, for the $5 super chat.
	Let's pull up our Twitch homies real quick.
	Give them a little shout.
	Okay.
	And we have one follower.
	Fuck yeah, we're killing it, guys.
	We're killing the game.
	Obviously, arbitrary panda.
	Thank you for the follow, man.
	Much appreciated.
	By the way, guys, we are live right now on Twitch.tv, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	If you have an Amazon Prime sub, you can sub totally free.
	Give us a follow if you can't.
	Just show us a little support on Twitch.
	And all right, why don't you bring on back?
	So I think we're going to wrap up there.
	I want to just open it up to the rest of the panel.
	Final thoughts or a question for the panel?
	I just want to say both of them clarified that they would not cheat.
	So I guess I would also like to say I would not cheat either.
	But you would be fine with an open relationship.
	I would be fine if I know that no man is going to be okay with open relationship.
	So I would be fine with if they're open on their side and I'm closed on their own.
	I feel like some guys ask for that though.
	Do you or do you not want a guy to be loyal to you?
	I want that.
	Okay.
	So I loved your stuff when you started talking about the daughter.
	Right?
	It's beautiful.
	Think about it.
	Think about it.
	You're going to be a good dad.
	I know.
	Think about that.
	I know.
	Well, no, facts.
	Like, if you, like, I fuck with everything you're saying, like, most of it.
	The only thing I don't agree with is.
	The only thing I don't agree with is he, he, in some of his videos, he's like, yeah, I'm just going to have a bunch of girlfriends and like, I want to have a lot of kids.
	Well, if you have a lot of kids with a bunch of different girls, one, the family dynamic is just really weird.
	If you have a daughter, think about how she's going to think.
	Like, I wouldn't want my daughter to do any of that stuff.
	So I'm going to be someone that's going to guide her in the right direction.
	Because a lot of girls don't have a lot of guidance.
	So it's like, you got to be that person for them.
	Good answer.
	Yeah, agree.
	You're also on the, okay, and I get it.
	You're also on the older spectrum, you know, just to look at it real.
	And we're young, so we're not really...
	Right.
	We're not really on your, like, I don't know.
	I guess we don't have your type of perspective because, you know, you can't, as we, as we age, we're going to change how we think.
	And I'm sure I get it.
	Like, you may already see that, like, yeah, if you're with a man for like 30 years, you might get bored and then maybe allow him to be with another girl.
	I personally wouldn't be okay with that.
	You also have a job where you've gotten to talk to people about their Experience like where he's saying he's over his wife, you know.
	Not everybody, I mean, possibly in the future when I'm doing somebody's hair, an older woman can be like, I'm over my husband, but like, you know, I'd be like, oh, for sure.
	For sure, queen.
	Like, she wants a good relationship with a good man.
	Yeah.
	The thing is, like, you have someone.
	She's 28 versus like you have to become someone that's going to be able to attract that.
	You can't.
	It's like a lot of girls, like, if you guys know the Fresh and Fit podcast.
	No.
	No.
	Yep.
	Familiar with it.
	Some of the girls are like.
	Inspired this show.
	No, no.
	Yeah.
	Some of the girls are like attracted.
	Like, you can't attract something you're not aligned with.
	If you're going out all the time, getting ran through by a bunch of dudes, how do you expect a good man to come into your life?
	He's going to.
	See, I'm out in the wood with my cat all day.
	See, so how am I going to attract a man that's also at home with his cat?
	Well, you have to go out and just like, just first of all, work on yourself and just think about what you want out of a relationship.
	Just think about it.
	And then once you think about it and you just start acting as if you're already there, things are going to come to you.
	Also, think about like, if you stay in a relationship with a man that you're not really, there's no spark or anything.
	The only real thing you're really like holding on to is the memories.
	And it's just like, also, sometimes it's cheaper to keep her, I guess.
	Like, they get married and then they're just like stay together.
	They're separated, but they're with different people, you know?
	Like, that's how some people are when they get older.
	But it's just like you shouldn't even like hold on to that just because of the memories.
	You guys should just like move on.
	You know, if you start losing interest, and I get when you're older, it's harder to find someone.
	It's 100%.
	And then the person just wants to sleep with someone else.
	Like, why just?
	They just weren't men for you.
	But a guy that really wants, like, if a guy really cares about you, the first thing on his mind is not sex.
	Yeah.
	Sex.
	Okay, we're going to move on.
	Kylie, do you have a final thought or question for the panel?
	Oh, it's just like this entire discussion to me, it just doesn't make sense.
	If a man cares about me and we've built our entire life together and he's like, oh, by the way, like, I'm getting bored with you.
	I want to sleep with someone else.
	Like, all of my memories would be fucking diminished by that.
	Exactly.
	Like, I would, like, I would have those good memories, but it's just.
	Liv, final thought or question?
	I wanted to talk about basically with the rating when we were all asked to rate ourselves.
	But I feel like to one person, I might be a three, but to another, I might be a 10.
	So I feel like that all circles into preference.
	And like the rating scale isn't a real thing, but to people themselves.
	Yeah.
	That's all I wanted to say.
	But I mean, there is objective beauty.
	Like, we can look at Brad Pitt.
	We can look at it.
	Oh, I can.
	What are you guys saying?
	We can look at a Victoria's.
	What does that mean?
	What does it all mean?
	Hold on.
	We can look at a Victoria's Secret model.
	And most people, you line up 100 people, men and women, they will say, yes, this person is exceptionally attractive.
	Yeah.
	I like to make the comparison between Brad Pitt and Danny DeVito.
	You line up most people and like.
	Danny DeVito all the way.
	Yeah, everyone's going to meme about it.
	But like in actuality, like most people are going to say, Danny DeVito is not a physically attractive person.
	I'm sure he's a great, wonderful guy, but physically.
	I just call those standards that people feel like they need to meet.
	Like a Victoria's Secret model, of course, any girl would love to look like that.
	Maybe not.
	Like, I would prefer, I like going to the gym.
	I'd prefer not to be like a super tall, skinny, like Victoria's secret.
	Okay, sure.
	Or like a fitness model.
	I would love to look like.
	Most people will look at the fitness model and most people line up 100 people and they're going to be like, yeah, she's very attractive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, 100%.
	So I feel like that's like a, yeah, that's a standard that people want to meet.
	But I think in the day-to-day normal person's life, like they're going to be like, that girl to me is a 10 versus that girl to me isn't that attractive.
	And that's how it is.
	It's just subjective for everybody.
	But everybody might, everybody might think that this one fitness model is attractive.
	And then someone else would think she's not that attractive.
	There's always going to be something.
	Like, for instance, if I was looking at a fitness model and I was like, he's 100% attractive.
	And my friend, who has a completely different type than me, is like, yeah, he's attractive.
	But then when we go out on the street, we still have two different types.
	We're still like, that guy's a 10, that guy to me is a two.
	Were you gardening today?
	Shut up.
	Were you gardening today?
	No, I know.
	Sorry, I was noticing her nails.
	Yeah, I'm a hairstylist.
	I'm a hairstylist.
	So I style.
	Your hair nails.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I was like, god damn it.
	And I'm also, I'm an anesthetician, so I'm not allowed to have acrylics.
	Okay.
	I was like, you're pulling carrots or something.
	I know.
	I dye.
	No, you're good.
	You're good.
	Kind of top that off.
	It's just like, all right, well, like, people try to overcomplicate it, but like, the nature of it, though, is, like, we are going to find a girl with, you know, the nature of it, girls with curves, girls with, like, I guess, like, bigger, I guess, spots, you know, it's more attractive.
	Like, if you look at animals, like, certain things are more attractive to other animals.
	Certain features.
	Same thing.
	We're like animals, you know.
	You find a guy more attractive by their masculinity.
	And girls, if they have certain features that, you know, naturally, you know, people find in a general scale attractive.
	So like, that's just the natural scale.
	Some people are going to defer left or right with certain people, but it's just the nature of it.
	There's always going to be a wide range, but there's always going to be people.
	The general skill.
	Yeah.
	Kiki, final thoughts.
	Okay.
	Sexually arrested.
	I want to feel what it feels like.
	It feels nice.
	They're pretty pretty.
	No, no.
	Leo, final thoughts or question for you.
	Up the rating and the preferences.
	I mean, like, you like shorter girls, right?
	So if you like you prefer a short girl, I would prefer some fucking tallest girl.
	So it's like this was the exact conversation I was trying to raise before and you guys were like, I don't get it.
	Like, I was like, oh, some people are curvy.
	Some people like curvy.
	Some people like petite.
	Some people like small boobs.
	I wouldn't.
	I wouldn't not date an Amazon fucking 6'5 chick.
	I wouldn't not.
	I'm six feet.
	I'll date a taller.
	I'll date a taller girl than me.
	It's not.
	Yeah.
	If she's stressing me or like, but I've been, like, I'm six feet, so I've been on dates with girls who are like six feet, six, one, six, two, six, three.
	Like, it happens to be the case of the times I've gone on on women who are on dates with women who are taller than me.
	It just happens to be the case that it doesn't work out with them.
	I suspect it has something to do with height because there's, you know, I go on dates with plenty of people and it works out.
	Sometimes it doesn't.
	But I do think women generally, like, they're not going to date a guy who's shorter than them.
	Like, most of the time, they're just not feeling it.
	General skill.
	Yeah.
	So, but yeah, I think I do have an overall preference that leans towards like shorter petite women.
	But that's not to say that I wouldn't date a girl's average height, a girl who's closer to my height.
	So it's not a deal breaker for me.
	I had a question.
	Is your audience mostly guys or girls?
	Probably like 90%.
	90% men, I'd say.
	It's usually all girls on the at the time.
	Probably got a bunch of guys watching.
	Guys, if you're watching this shit, honestly, just work on yourself and build yourself in a way that's going to put you up.
	It's going to put you at an advantage.
	That's right, kings.
	Not even like that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, but that's kind of wet.
	But like, just don't focus on just trying to get a bunch of girls.
	You got to build your future for yourself, not just.
	Like think about, it's like your attention, your family, your future family, like all this shit.
	It's bigger than just getting bitches and getting laid.
	Exactly.
	Final thought, Tristan?
	I totally agree.
	You know, work on yourself.
	Stop focusing more on girls and chasing.
	Drop the chase.
	Work on yourself.
	And they'll come to you.
	You'll be a better person.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	We're just going to wrap up here real quick with some super chats.
	Oh, wait, we already got that one.
	Will Smith, $2.
	Me and the Bandana Girl Had Entanglements.
	And then finally, Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the support.
	If the blonde girl wants it, she can get it too.
	Who's the blonde?
	Okay.
	Cool, cool.
	All right.
	Got to get more money than that, Dave.
	And we got two new Twitch channels.
	I might have to start an only one.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's pull up Twitch real quick.
	Threesome with Mike Davis.
	And then I think we just got another super chat.
	We kinda tagged this.
	Oh, just Steve.
	Okay.
	We Eiffel Tower him, bro.
	Oh, my God.
	All right.
	Phantom Boy7, thank you for the follow.
	SMG24, thank you for the follow.
	And then let's just get this final super chat here.
	Mr. Mojo Ryzen, thank you.
	Good to see you again.
	Thank you for the $5 super chat.
	Sorry, guys, we have a motorcycle.
	Thank you for the $5 super chat, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	I'm only here to support Brian.
	I don't care about what any of his guests say.
	All right.
	Well, hey, there you go.
	Hey, Mr. Mojo Risen, I do really appreciate the support.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Okay, so that was our first time doing this 3 versus 3 format.
	In the chat, guys, can you let us know, did you like it?
	Did you not like it?
	Do you want to see me go back to the, I suppose it's a 1v4, 1v6 format where it's just me?
	Or would you like to see me continue to bring on some guys for this 3v3 format?
	We got another super chat.
	Another super chat.
	Gotta get some information.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me grab this rolling.
	Aiden Ross, thank you, man, for the $5 super chat.
	Much appreciated.
	If you only chase girls, then you'll eventually run out of money.
	But if you chase your money, then you'll never run out of girls.
	Well, that's a Martin Luther King Jr. quote right there.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think 50 Cent said something similar to the effect of if you're chasing women, you're chasing backwards.
	I'm totally butchering it, but you got to chase, get money first.
	Chase, get money.
	It's okay.
	You don't speak English.
	Yeah, English is my second language, and I'm extremely pasty.
	Fuck bitches, you have money.
	Yeah, I'm very pale, so I should not be quoting a rapper.
	So let's see here.
	Okay.
	And is that it for super chats?
	That's it.
	Okay, cool.
	So yeah, guys, one in the chat if you'd like to see this format again.
	You know, the three guys, three girls, we might do quads, four guys, four girls.
	So yeah, either trios or quads.
	Let me know if you'd like to see that format again.
	One in the chat, if yes, two in the chat.
	If you're just not really feeling it, you'd rather me go back to the other format.
	And yeah, we're just going to take a sec to see what the chat here has to say.
	I see them coming in.
	I feel like a lot of guys shit on it more when there's only girls.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I've heard more positive stuff today.
	From the chat.
	Yeah.
	Well, just guys, these guys also are, we're wording like a lot of their perspective too.
	Yeah.
	Like they listen to six girls and they're like, shit, I want to say like what I'm thinking.
	They can't say anything.
	Yeah.
	We're wording what the majority of guys think.
	I like it.
	But when there's six.
	Yeah, when there's six girls too, there's a lot wider range of perspective.
	Like some girls are like 100% activist feminists.
	Like they are.
	I would have liked to be hard on this panel.
	Die hard.
	You guys were too nice.
	Nice.
	Too nice.
	Yeah, we should have brought some fun.
	Yeah, well, I wanted to get like a someone that was.
	Can I say like my standpoint on the feminists real quick?
	I mean, I say I'm a feminist because I'm a woman, but like I also feel like there comes like a point where it's like girls are like, you know, we need more rights.
	We need equal pay.
	But then when we're held to the same standard as a guy, they're like, but I'm just a girl.
	Equal rights, equal fights.
	Yeah.
	So it's like, it's like you can only ask for so much before you can receive so much.
	I don't know.
	So I'm like, because I'm a woman, I'm like, yeah, I should be able to vote, but I'm not going to be like, I need more than voting.
	They pull the strings a little too much on it, you know, to get away from it.
	They want their way when it's beneficial.
	Exactly.
	Thank you.
	Oh, my God.
	Wow.
	Common sense.
	Hey, let me.
	But, yeah, no, I mean.
	I'm going to get some shit from girls.
	I already expected that.
	That's a very base.
	That's a very base take.
	And it's definitely the case.
	Here's the thing, right?
	Equality is not a buffet.
	You don't get to pick the things you want and disregard the things you don't want.
	So the issue with feminism is it's never really been about equality.
	It's been about getting women preferential treatment or getting them rights without the accompanying responsibilities.
	So take, for example, the right to vote.
	So in order for men to have the right to vote, even to this day, they have to register for the selective service.
	They're subject to the draft.
	The guys next to me, the two guys next to me here, they are, including myself, we are subject to the draft.
	In the event of a war, a catastrophic war, we would be drafted.
	Women are not subject to the draft.
	In fact, it's feminist organizations that actually, I'm pretty sure some of them are pushing back against, because there are organizations that are trying to equalize the because when World War III was supposed to happen, yeah.
	Well, I mean, if you look at if you look at what happened in Ukraine, all the men were required to stay in Ukraine, and then all the women could leave.
	So, I mean, there's no feminists when Russia's invading.
	Let me tell you.
	But I feel like when I, yeah, when that whole thing about World War III 3 possibly breaking out, they were talking about how women could supposedly be drafted.
	And then now all the feminists were like, no, you can't draft us.
	We're not going to be like, we're not going to be able to do that.
	But it's like you guys are also saying that we should be held to this.
	It's hard to say.
	It's like a hard topic because it's like, we should be held to the same standard.
	But at the same time, if you want to be held to the same standard, then stand at the same standard.
	Don't fight when you are being held at the same standard.
	Bro, put me in the fucking kitchen.
	I'll make your sandwich.
	I don't want to go to war.
	I'm like, I don't want to go to war.
	make me mop make me you know whatever but i feel like we might never like really reach like an equal level just because like give me a beer and throw me out on the battle The fact of also like our genetic makeup, like generally stronger, you know, like they want to also have men in the war.
	Yeah, there's girls that can probably kick ass.
	They're smart.
	There's definitely places that you don't have to be physically like, you know, strong to be in the army or whatever to get drafted.
	But like there's, I feel like guys are mainly, the reason they want to draft is because they're generally stronger.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's just our genetic makeup.
	But imagine if we had the ability to have cootie warfare.
	Cootie warfare with girls cooties.
	What do you mean?
	Bio warfare.
	Oh, biological warfare.
	I was just saying the word feminism is a very wide spectrum where you can be die hard, like go fuck yourself if you're a man.
	Or just, I think, you know, we should be able to vote, but, like, I'm not going to push anything, you know?
	One of my brother's exes literally would be like, oh, I hate all men.
	Like, does that include the man you're dating?
	I make the joke where I'm like, fuck men, but like, I don't.
	I don't kill all men.
	Jesus.
	Jesus.
	Oh, you do mean fuck men.
	Come on.
	Guys, here's a good one.
	Here's a good one.
	If you ever hear a girl say, kill all men, all men suck, ask them if that applies to George Floyd.
	Watch them fucking flip on that one.
	Yeah, they're in a real fucked up position if you ask them that.
	But yeah, no.
	Scroll back on their Instagram.
	They have like, all lives matter.
	So anyways, but yeah, I mean, anyways, we don't, let's not get too much.
	Anyway, let's not go too deep.
	My main point was there's a wide spectrum of what feminism means.
	Or what, no, no, no, what standpoint a girl takes as a feminist.
	Well, I think a lot of people just aren't super aware of what feminism actually is.
	And they, most people just don't, like, they hear things on the news and they just assume, okay, that's just feminism is equality.
	And they just say, okay, that sounds good.
	But, I mean, feminism is really not at all about.
	Sorry, guys, I'm a bit tired.
	It's really not about equality.
	It's about, it's for, it's women's advocacy.
	Yeah.
	My main gripe with feminism, and which is, and one of the reasons why I don't think a lot of, well, I don't think a lot of people should identify as feminist, is the core tenet of feminism, the core foundation of feminism, is the patriarchy theory.
	And it is just that, a theory.
	And a theory is not fact.
	And this theory happens to be wrong.
	And the patriarchy theory is incredibly damaging to both men, but also to women, because you're teaching women that if you teach women that all their problems and all the problems that women have faced throughout history is as a cause of men as a group, then you're essentially teaching women to have contempt for men.
	It's an absolutely disgusting thing to teach women, and it's an absolutely awful thing to inflict upon men.
	So this idea that the relationship between men and women and the history of the relationship between men and women is one of class warfare and one oppressing the other is modern day, absolutely inaccurate.
	And even historically, it's inaccurate.
	Men and women have fundamentally, throughout history, cooperated.
	Life, especially in the past, was incredibly difficult.
	And men and women were partners and worked together.
	And now that you basically have what is effectively a bunch of extremely privileged people in universities perpetuating this idea that men are oppressing women and women are, it's kind of weird.
	Women are both strong and independent, but simultaneously victims that to me, it doesn't make any sense.
	But anyways, I'm kind of rambling here.
	They're stuck in the past.
	I mean, it's less sensitive nowadays.
	Yeah, 100, the whole cancel culture and everything, you know, you're walking on eggshells for all this shit.
	You can't even say what you actually think because it's like, oh, fuck, am I going to get canceled?
	No, it's like half the movies that can't be released now that we watch.
	Yeah, it's fucking sad.
	Like white cheeks would get fucking canceled.
	Yeah, you see, like, white cheeks would get fucking canceled right now, but it's like, come on, like, stop being so soft and like, you know, like, stop thinking about the cancel culture.
	You know, like, just say what you want to say.
	Word.
	Okay.
	Did we get another super chat that came in?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	Okay, guys.
	We're going to wrap up here.
	Chris, can you lower the volume just a little bit?
	On the computer, right here?
	Yeah.
	That's way too low.
	Put it to like 430?
	30.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm trying out this stupid new intro.
	I shouldn't say stupid, but an outro.
	Okay.
	Okay, so I think we'll wrap up.
	I just want to thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. with our next dating talk.
	I think we're going to be doing quads for V4, four guys, for girls.
	If you want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
	I want to thank the panel for joining us tonight.
	Thank you guys for watching.
	And we will see you next time.
	Peace.

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