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So without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, or if you're in school, your major, and current relationship status.
Hi, I'm Alex.
I'm 24.
I just graduated UCSB Chemistry, and I'm single.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Isabella.
I'm 28.
I was a lawyer, quit in May.
Now an aspiring director, producer.
And I'm married.
I'm Ashley.
I'm 27.
I am a bar manager at a restaurant and I bartend at a nightclub.
And I am single.
hi i'm jane i am a hi i'm jane i'm I'm a bartender.
I am 23, and I am currently single.
Brandon, age 40, tattoo artist.
Relationship status?
Single.
I'm Tanner.
I'm 26.
Full-time I do executive protection, part-time.
I started my own farms training company, and I'm an instrument in the National Guard.
And I recently got into a relationship.
I'm Chase.
I'm 27.
Professional photographer and brand consultant.
And I'm single.
Okay, so we have a bit of an older panel this time around.
Everyone's complaining.
Why do you keep bringing on, no offense, ladies.
Why do you keep bringing on the 19, 20, 21-year-old college students?
So we have a more mature panel, if you will.
Last thing I'm going to just have us go around the table on is do you identify as a feminist?
Yes.
Define feminist.
I guess the common parlance.
I'll have to get back to you, but yes, I think so.
I mean, feminist by definition.
that each gender should have the same opportunity and able to reach the same outcomes with what they're given.
So absolutely, I would identify with that.
Whatever your sense of the word feminist is.
Yeah, so that's my definition.
Everybody should be able to reach the same outcomes with what they're given.
And I identify as a feminist with that definition, yes.
No comment.
Okay, no comment.
She is a raging anti-feminist.
No, absolutely.
Okay, Brandon.
No comment.
I support women and their ideologies as long as it makes sense, but I don't know if feminism is something that I run after.
Tanner?
Yeah, I wouldn't identify as a feminist.
As far as the modern definition of feminism goes, I am absolutely not a feminist.
Okay, cool.
So the topic for today are preferences.
So we're going to go around the table.
I don't speak English, guys.
Sorry.
English is my second language.
So we're going to go around the table.
What are your top preferences that you have when it comes to a partner?
And we want you to try to list at least three physical traits and three non-physical traits.
So for non-physical traits, for example, funny, makes good money, loyal, et cetera, et cetera.
Damn, I'm on the first every time.
Okay.
Pretty much, yes.
We put you there intentionally.
Damn.
Physical traits, I would say like, I guess like tall, long hair, just like pretty.
Pretty or handsome?
Pretty handsome.
Well, I'm making some assumptions there, but pretty boy, pretty girls.
So you're bi.
Yes.
Okay.
Do you have a do you lean more so?
I lean more towards guys, yeah.
Okay.
But and then non-physical, funny, like smart, and just like easy going.
So am I supposed to describe my husband right now?
I suppose.
Or you could just list.
Yeah, that's probably for the best.
I think he's watching right now.
So hot, tall, athletic.
When you say tall, what?
Is there a number?
Like 6'5?
6'1 and above.
6'1 and above.
And how tall are you?
I'm petite.
I'm 5'4.
Okay.
But yeah, I like tall guys.
Really, really tall guys.
Even before your husband, you had a preference for tall men.
Very tall men.
Very tall men.
6'1's a bit short, don't you think?
6'9?
6'9.
And he put his height as 6'8 because he thought 6'9 would look weird.
6'8 is off-putting.
Or sorry, 6'9 is off-putting, but 6'8, that's fine.
Okay.
I kind of felt like a pet when I walked around with him because I was like on his rib cage, basically.
Yeah, tall for sure.
And then personality traits, I guess.
smart kind can you scoot the microphone a bit to your That way.
Keep it going, keep it going?
Perfect.
Okay, sorry.
Okay.
Smart, for sure.
Confident, but not cocky.
And mature.
Okay.
Is your husband also an ex-attorney?
No, no, no.
I don't date lawyers.
You don't date lawyers?
Yeah, no.
I wouldn't even date myself, but.
Why wouldn't you date yourself?
Oh, it'll be a lot.
So you're a lot?
How so?
I'm just a lot, like however you define that.
You can ask great.
Do you have like a pog collection?
A pog collection.
Pokemon cards?
Oh, I do play Pokemon.
Okay.
I played Arceus through.
How are you a lot?
How am I a lot?
I think I'm very hard on myself.
I'm very hard on my friends.
And your partner?
And on him too, yeah.
Are you a ball buster?
Probably.
You're such a ballbuster.
Yeah, I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Okay.
I feel like I have not like very set physical standards for what I like.
Mine are kind of a little bit more personality-based.
For personality, like I definitely like somebody who is very outgoing, who likes to party, who likes to have fun, somebody who has a steady income, knows what their next move is, at least to keep up with me.
For physical aspects, I like somebody kind of like with their own unique style.
That's very attractive for me.
If they have tattoos, that's a plus, but it's like never like a must, you know?
What if a guy had a tramp stamp?
That's fine.
That's okay.
That's absolutely fine.
If you're covered in tattoos, like, yes.
What if it was just a tramp stamp?
That'd be a little weird.
Okay.
I feel like I wouldn't know.
Like, dolls.
Because you never see them from the back.
I love this flower.
I'm not really getting that POV.
Do any of the girls here, do all you have tattoos?
I have tattoos, yeah.
No, sadly.
Not you, not you.
Okay.
Do any of you have the Sternham tattoo?
No, but I have an appointment to get one.
Ah.
Why?
Do you have a Sternham tattoo?
No.
You're going to get a Sternum tattoo.
I'm going to need a small one.
Yeah.
I suppose.
Right there.
Yeah.
Why are you going with this?
This is so totally derailing the conversation.
But I don't think you should.
A lot of people, you know, I've actually gotten a lot of people.
I don't think you should.
I've gotten that actually from my ex-boyfriend.
He never wanted me to get it.
The Sternham tattoo is like the tramp stamp of the 2020s.
I get what you're saying, but I'm going to cover my entire body.
What about up here?
Right in the center.
That's the tramp stamp of like 2000.
The thing is like, I'm not really interested in like what people, I'm not really interested in what you guys think about it.
You know what I mean?
You should care deeply about what us as strangers think, by the way.
No, why?
Why is this?
It's right here.
What's wrong with you?
Well, I don't know if you guys remember Eve from like 2001.
She had that song with Gwen Stefani.
She had these bare claw things.
I don't know.
Well, what about Rihanna's?
Like, a huge tattoo.
Who?
Who's that?
Who?
Am I pronouncing it wrong?
Rihanna?
Oh, the singer.
She had that song from like 2007.
What is it?
Are you seriously downplaying Rihanna right now?
What is going on?
She literally owns like a company.
Are you a very successful makeup company?
Wow.
And a lingerie brand.
Wait.
No, what was that song she did?
Chime Point.
Oh, Umbrella.
Oh, my God.
He's going so far back.
Wait, Brian, what's your age?
Who the fuck is that guy?
I'm 33.
I'm 33.
But okay, so go ahead.
Tattoos.
Yeah, I mean, I think I said style, like kind of their own thing going for them, that they're into either their style or their tattoos or like personality-wise, like very into something that they kind of make their own.
That's kind of important to me.
Looks-wise, I like tattoos.
I like somebody who knows how to dress.
Other than that, like if you're attractive, I'm not like there's not, you don't have to be super tall.
You don't have to look a certain way.
I like long hair, but I'm also down for the short hair if it looks good with your style.
And then three non-physical traits?
I thought I said that first.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, right?
Yeah, you did.
I have a short attention span.
Okay, go ahead, Jane.
I think for my physical ones, it was B, definitely height.
I would like to produce D1 babies at some point, and I am, I'm 5'3, so I need those extra jeans.
I like colored eyes because I always figure if I'm going to get an argument with somebody, at least they have pretty eyes to look at.
The other thing is just making sure that they give, like, I guess this goes into physical, but good hygiene.
Just making sure that you take care of yourself.
You don't have to be perfect, just, you know, making sure you don't smell, you brush your teeth, wash, stuff like that.
I would say in regards to like non-physical, making sure that they have empathy.
I feel like I can be a lot sometimes with my emotions, and I relate to you with that.
I can be really hard on people, and I feel like I need empathy, and I try to give that a lot.
So I want to be with someone like that.
You can be a lot.
But can you articulate what that means?
Just so that you can get a little bit of a business.
I feel like for at least me as a female, how I feel about that is when I say I'm a lot, I can become very emotional.
And when I deal with stress, sometimes I internalize it and then I blow up randomly and it can just not come off very nice.
You try to work on that, you know, and work with it with the person you're with.
That's what I see for my a lot.
Other thing would just be, you know, they're passionate about their life, regardless of it be with their career, with it, what they do outside of their life, and that they have their own personality and they do their own thing.
I like my alone time a lot.
So when I'm with someone, I want to make sure that they do their own thing.
I don't want them like up my ass 20%.
I need a break.
I agree.
I want to be able to love them, but at the same time, you're like, dude, get away.
Question for the two girls that said that you can be a lot.
Yeah.
Have you ever slashed a dude's tires?
I will not confirm nor deny that.
Okay.
All right, Kiki.
Good answer.
Brandon.
So list three physical traits and three non-physical traits that you like or have a preference for in a partner.
She's got to be, I mean, you know, I'm not too shallow, but you know, she's got to take care of herself, obviously.
You know, she's got to have more or less a decent body.
She's got to have good family.
I like girls with good family background.
They have a certain morale about them that's just comforting to a real man, I feel, and that's welcoming.
I like eyes.
I like just girls, I like eyes.
Was that physical or non-physical?
Sorry.
That was physical.
Yeah.
Okay.
Non-physical, just be down to earth.
Be very cool, lay back.
I don't really get along with girls that kind of just let it go with the mouth and kind of don't really let time for a pause.
And if she's scattered that way, she's probably scattered other ways.
And my experience in the past has been no-go, red flag on that.
But just be real down to earth and have killer eyes.
Okay, nice.
Nice.
Tanner?
I'd say, you know, more like petite, nice hair, pretty face.
I'd say sort of like non-physical, definitely kind, intelligent, empathetic, more like nurturing, whatnot.
And has like healthy hobbies for sure.
And, you know, more family-oriented, good relationship with her family and siblings, all that stuff.
As far as physical characteristics go, I like, I really like piercing blue eyes.
And I like tall, fit chicks.
Like a girl that's somewhere between like 5'8 to 5'10.
That's like pretty ideal for me.
As far as values go and like inner characteristics, she's gotta love God, gotta have conservative values, and I like intelligence.
Those are, that's nice.
I like that.
Okay.
Are you on any dating apps, by the way?
I actually am.
I'm on Tinder right now.
I thought you were about to say Christian Mingle.
No.
I probably should be.
I probably should be.
I have my Tinder set to Stockholm and Copenhagen right now.
So you're in college.
You have your Tinder set to Stockholm?
Yes.
Okay.
And are you trying to fly out the Scandinavian chicks or what are you trying to do?
I mean, are you going there?
If you meet the right girl, somehow make it work, bring her here, go out there.
But is she going to be able to get a little bit more?
That's the interesting pool.
Nice.
Smart.
Maximizing.
Maximizing that.
I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but I don't know.
No, I like this.
It's smart.
Like their language.
I don't know.
No, yeah.
Yeah, lots of people.
Okay, so.
You seem confused by this.
What's up, Brian?
Ryan is not okay.
Is it because there's not a lot of...
I mean, we do live in Santa Barbara, California.
Yep.
Fairly liberal city.
Extremely liberal city.
So have you encountered, you mentioned you're looking for a religious woman.
Yes.
Someone who's conservative.
Yes.
So I suspect you've encountered difficulty in our location in Santa Barbara finding a woman that matches those criteria.
You could say that.
And so is that why you're swiping?
But is it much better in Stockholm?
Right.
Right.
I mean, I'll just say this.
Also, I just want to give a quick shout out to the bras.
What's up, boys?
Some of my friends are listening in.
I am irresistibly attracted to Scandinavian girls and to Mediterranean girls.
There's not...
There's not a ton of those in Santa Barbara.
You've got some of the Scandinavian girls that go to city colleges.
Right, I was about to say city college.
But of that pool, finding a conservative Christian girl is very hard.
And there's not many of them here in Santa Barbara, if any at all, actually.
Wait, are they Christian and very conservative in Scandinavia?
That was not a problem.
I feel like they're pretty liberal.
Most of them are pretty liberal, but you get the sprinkling on them.
Yeah, you get the spring.
You should expand to Finland.
Possibly.
I'm not curiosity.
Are you withholding?
Oh, I'll go Eastern Europeans.
I'll go East in Europe.
I'm fully committed to them.
So if I swipe right.
Yeah, but you're using Tinder.
Just personally, you're withholding this moral that you have.
Tinder is like the worst one to go.
didn't decide to do hinge or bumble to be honest i actually i actually downloaded it like last week and i was just curious to see last week yeah probably like monday of last week okay And I was curious to see who's out there.
And My odds of finding the type of woman that I'm looking for on Tinder are basically zero.
But it was more just like curiosity to see like who's going to be.
Okay.
I was just curious because I was like, Tinder.
Really?
Yeah, I like sending it to different cities and seeing like.
You can do that with Hinge too.
You can even.
Are you a hinge rep?
Are you trying to say that?
No.
I mean, I should be, but I'm just saying, shout out to Hinge.
Hinge is good.
You can actually narrow down on your religious values and your political values too, which makes more sense for you.
But I feel like there's maybe a little side of you that isn't as struck to your morals.
Like maybe you want to be aware of it.
Maybe you want it to be a virus.
Maybe you want to see what she's doing.
She's questioning.
She's questioning.
You would be wrong.
I'm fully committed.
I will tell you, actually.
I will tell you.
I'm saving myself for my future wife.
Wow.
Wait.
What?
Hold on.
This is news to me.
It's crazy.
Yes.
Wait, so you're a virgin?
No.
Oh, wait.
So I'll give you guys the context.
So in 2020, as everything was picking up with COVID and stuff, I was kind of looking at current events and I see there's a lot of biblical prophecy about the end times that's being fulfilled right now.
What?
Sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Yeah, there's a lot of biblical prophecy about the end times that's being fulfilled right now.
And I really doubled down on my faith in 2020.
And I had a girlfriend back then.
Her and I ended up breaking up over my religious values and stuff.
Like she wasn't on the same page.
It was okay.
It was for the best.
But yeah, I haven't had sex in like two and a half years.
I haven't had sex in like two and a half years.
Wow.
Good for you.
Thank you.
Damn.
That's crazy.
Two and a half years.
Yes.
So you're starting two and a half years ago, you're waiting for your wife.
Yes.
Okay.
Wow.
And are I assume you want the same expectation for the girl?
Absolutely.
Do you want her to be a virgin or just I mean, virgin would be ideal, but like low body count.
If she's not a virgin, low body count is essential.
Okay, absolutely essential.
So I would like to chime in on this.
Just out of curiosity because, you know, everybody decides what they want to do with, you know, their personal sex life and stuff like that.
But I feel, right, if you're wanting to withhold your Christianity and your standards, right?
I'm a Christian as well.
Okay.
But I feel that let's say you meet someone and you click with them and they have really good morals, but their sin or their weakness is sexual immorality.
Would you 100% turn them away or would you actually try to work on that with them?
See?
I mean, I'd work on it with them as a friend, but like I'm not interested in marrying a girl with a high body count.
But it's like a total deal breaker.
That's almost being sacrilegious, though.
Maybe the person that you like has zero body count and there's something about you that they're being overtly judgmental on.
Do you see how that's just...
Yeah, and I also think that we should be picky with who we marry.
And if the fact that I'm not a virgin, for example, is a deal breaker for some girl, that's totally fair.
I have my lines in the sand, and if she has lines in the sand, that's okay too.
Yeah, I was just curious if you had looked at it from both sides.
More power to you for however you want to run it, but I just wanted to see if you had thought about that.
That's all I was curious.
Yeah, it's a fair question.
When you say high body count, what do you consider a high body count?
So, I mean, I would say this, like, if I'm looking for a wife, I don't want her to have been with more than five to seven guys personally.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why are you laughing over there?
Yeah, do you guys have to go for it?
I am.
Well, no, we live in California.
I'm very rare.
Like, my standards are very different from a lot of the guys here.
No, I totally understand that.
So, like, most guys here probably aren't going to care as much as I do.
Well, it's not, yeah.
I think that I'm just thinking of it in my own perspective.
And it's just like, I'm so far beyond that, like, that far, like, that thought.
Like, that just doesn't even cross my mind.
What doesn't cross your mind?
Like, body count or like how many people you've been with.
Like, that is so just not in my range of thought because I'm not thinking about that.
I'm thinking of people like as a person and how they are.
And I don't care about who they've been with or like what they've done in their past.
I don't.
I don't care about what they've done in their past sexually.
That really, really doesn't bother me at all.
What about, let me just come in real quick on this.
What about, would you date a guy who previously slept with prostitutes?
Yeah.
No issue there?
That's like no difference.
That's really not an issue.
Yeah, that's not an issue for me at all.
That's an issue for me.
That's a legal issue.
Those are women that have slept with like hundreds of dudes.
Yeah, but that doesn't, like, that doesn't change who they are as a person.
You paid for sex.
If I'm like, if I love them and who they are.
But that is part of who they are, is their career, right?
Well, yeah, but he's saying if they had paid unprotected sex with that.
I'm sure.
I mean, I want whoever I'm going to be with.
Can I share with you why I care about this?
Yeah, but like, let me finish my thought.
If I care about who they've been with, like, of course I want them to be safe.
I want them to be tested.
Everybody that I've been with, like, I want them to be safe and tested and make sure they don't have any STIs or anything.
But yeah, I don't care about that.
Can I jump in real quick?
Yeah, that's a huge deal breaker.
Like, no freaking way.
If the guy has been with a prostitute, I mean, like, dude, if you want to get with someone, can you not get with someone without paying for it?
Like, come on.
Okay.
Come on, then.
That's a fair point.
Which percentage up?
Everybody's like, I don't know.
So, so let me share with you.
Let me share with you why it's important to me is they've done studies and for both sexes, the more sexual partners a person has, the higher the likelihood of divorce later on.
And I think that's because, I think it's because the more people you sleep with, I think it desensitizes your body and soul and mind to pair bonding.
So like when you have sex with somebody, you release oxytocin and that causes the two of them to bond with one another, right?
I think the reason why there's a higher divorce rate, the more people that someone sleeps with, is because that like pair bonding is blunted.
I really want like a rock-solid marriage.
Like I really want, you know, to be a good father.
I want my wife to be a good mother.
I want us to be good spouses to one another.
And that's like part of the reason why I'm saving myself for my wife moving forward.
Right.
You know, and I came from a divorced family and it was like the worst divorce like ever.
Like it was so brutal.
And I just like don't want anything like that.
So for me, it's really important in that way.
Yeah, I definitely respect where you're coming from.
I could 100% see that.
I think that the reason that the people that have been with more people are more prone to divorce is because people that have more experience and have more sexual partners see what they like more and tolerate less bullshit.
In my opinion, they come across something that is not is not okay with them and they'll leave the relationship.
And I identify with that.
Like when I was 19, I dated, when I was 18, 19, I dated somebody for five years who was completely not right for me because I thought that that was who I was supposed to be with.
You know, I've already, you know, my body count was what, two at that time?
I was like, I'm going to stay with him forever.
We've been together five years.
This is who I'm supposed to be with.
And I put up with so much bullshit that I absolutely should not have.
And, you know, leaving that relationship and getting more experience in different relationships has like made me learn what I should and shouldn't tolerate.
And now I really don't put up with anything that I shouldn't.
And that's because I've learned that you will find somebody new and you'll find somebody that you're going to want to be with.
And so there's like two sides.
You know what I mean?
That's a very fair point.
There's multiple sides to that.
And I definitely respect where you're coming from.
And like, I really respect it more that you are saving yourself now.
That makes me definitely see where you're coming from a little bit more.
But that's where I come from with it.
I totally support you 100%.
I think it's awesome that you're doing this.
And it's hard, obviously.
It's very hard.
Yeah.
Question: Are you masturbating?
I do.
Yeah.
Okay.
It just builds up.
Have a really good time.
Hopefully.
That's just loving yourself.
That's fine.
Wait, so I'm curious.
Are you comfortable sharing what your body count was before this shift?
Yeah, so I knew this question would come up.
I counted earlier today.
I have slept with seven women total.
Okay.
All right.
So are you going to hope that the person that you're going to be with at some point hasn't slept with more than seven people than you?
He wants a virgin.
Yeah, ideally.
Good luck.
I mean, not because of your situation, but good luck.
Honestly, like, if that's genuinely something that you're looking forward to, like, more power to you.
But I think maybe you should search in your heart for a little bit more empathy.
I don't think it's about empathy.
I feel that it's just a good idea.
Why can't it be just empathy?
But why can't that just be his preference?
It can be.
I just, maybe my personal views are going into that, but I just, that's just me, I guess.
I feel like people who have slept with less people, like one thing about them that could be a fact is that they're just really picky.
Yeah.
Like they just are not interested in sleeping with people they don't connect with.
Right?
That's exactly what it is.
It's just not fun.
Like what's the point of hooking up with someone if you don't really like them and you don't feel really connected?
But I think it's also a fair point that people sometimes just want to like have fun.
And if that's fun for them, I have no judgment at all.
But then I also think there's a lot of people, especially people who come from different cultures, that think of sex as something a little more formal, a little more love-driven, a little less physical, and a lot of emotional stuff.
And like maybe it means some sort of commitment.
Like I'm from China.
So in China, the unfortunate thing is if a girl has any kind of body count, then bye-bye.
Like you're not marriage material.
Like that's over.
And China's not a religious country, right?
Why do they do that?
Why do they look at it that way?
Oh, they're just like, oh, she's a slut.
It's just, that's just how people think, right?
Whereas if a guy like does whatever, then it's just whatever.
It's the same thing.
Do you mean so they don't have the same standard for men in China?
No, it's always a double standard.
It's like, oh, if you're a dude and you don't smoke, then you're a weak man.
But if you're a woman and you smoke, oh, you better hide that, right?
It's always like that.
Let's just go around the table really quick on this one.
Should body count matter?
No.
Somewhat.
I get that it can be a preference for some people, and I totally respect that, but for me, it's not a preference.
And for the people that I date, it's never even come up in conversation.
It's not a preference because that just like doesn't really fall in line with like something that matters to me.
So no.
I would say it's like I'm a little bit of both.
No.
Somewhat.
Yeah.
So I think it depends on what kind of society you want to build, right?
So like one of the problems I see in the world right now are all the broken families.
There's a lot of kids that grow up without fathers.
The divorce rate in California last I saw is like 55%.
I think that's a bad thing.
And the statistics on like divorce in comparison to body counts, if a girl, if someone is a virgin, when they go into marriage, there's like a 5% to 10% chance that it's going to end in divorce.
And I think it was if the body count is above 15, there's like a 50% chance that the couple is going to get divorced.
But that's not the only factor.
It's not.
However, there's so many other factors going into that.
I understand.
You're right.
But if this is the average of people's body counts and stuff, like that's a big deal.
50% of people getting divorced versus 5 to 10, like that's a huge deal.
But what about after they're already married for like 5, 6, 7, 8 years and they got to kind of spice things up?
They got to kind of spice things up in the bedroom.
You know what I'm saying?
Like this is why a lot of relationships break is because they get into it too quick and then they put all their eggs in one basket and they haven't really got a chance to really experience themselves sexually with other people.
They don't know their limits.
They don't know what they're really into.
So they get with a partner they've been idolizing their whole life and now they're with that partner.
Everything's great.
Two, three years, four years down the road, you start having urges for this type of broad or that type of broad.
Not everybody, but a lot of people.
And that's why marriages nowadays don't really last because people have this big fantasy in their mind about what they eventually want to achieve.
And when they finally so-called achieve it, a couple years into it, they're like, they figure out they want to go this way or want to go that way or not maybe not sexually, you know, another dude or another girl on girl, but I mean, they might be into something their partner's not.
And they find that out three, four years down the road.
And then now you have, you know, cheating and, you know, pent-up feelings and texting somebody else.
And so, I mean, you kind of really want to figure yourself out first before you kind of commit to something that heavy to where that's like, there's a drawbridge, that's it.
This is the perimeter.
Can't go outside of it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, 100%.
Like what I can't remember, one of you was saying, talking about, I think it was you, Ashley.
You were talking about how like being with different men has helped you understand what it is that you want.
Yeah.
Like that, that totally resonates.
Like for me, like the type of woman I want now is so different from who I wanted when I was like 20.
Right.
And if I had gotten married to a girl when I was 20 years old, like it probably would have been the wrong one and we probably would have ended up getting divorced.
Like there's totally merit to what you're saying, 100%.
I think it comes down to like people being clear on who they are.
Like who you are at 18 isn't the same person that you're going to be at 26.
And I don't know.
Like, yeah, people end up in bad relationships and bad marriages.
That's definitely a thing.
I think it's, you'd have to be like super clear on like the values that you have.
And like long, like if you're going to marry somebody you'd have to be like, hey, like, where are you seeing yourself like 25 years from now?
Like, what does this look like?
You know what I mean?
If you're just basing a relationship off of just like lust or something kind of superficial, then it's like, you know, you're bound to have like want to mess around or do whatever.
It's got to be like a way long marathon.
Yeah.
I mean, lifelong marathon, ideally.
I think one of the reasons a lot of people get divorced is because they get into relationships based on lust.
Like at my gym, like I've talked to like four old dudes, all of them divorced.
And basically all of them got divorced once they lost their sexual attraction to their partner and they realized there wasn't anything there.
The whole relationship was founded on sex from the get-go.
And then once they got in their 40s and they weren't attracted to each other in the same way anymore, they were like, oh, there's nothing here.
Like that's a big problem.
You can't base a relationship on lust, in my opinion, like a long-term relationship.
I'm just going to bring it back to the whole body count discussion.
I don't think I gave my take quite on it, so I'll give my take.
I need my input.
So body count, I think absolutely matters.
I do think men and women view it a bit differently.
I think men do care more about the woman's body count than do women.
And there's biological and evolutionary reasons for that.
One of which a woman who is promiscuous, you cannot guarantee paternity.
So if a woman gets pregnant, she knows for sure that's the kid.
But the father, there can be some uncertainty there.
So even though now today we have paternity tests, it doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary hardwiring that men have to find promiscuity in women unappealing, unattractive.
So there's that.
I mean, of course, there's STD risks.
Someone who's more promiscuous is more likely to have an STD.
So that's another concern.
I know you mentioned that, oh, you can get tested before you have a new partner.
But let's be real.
How many of people out there are getting tested in each and every instance that they're with a new partner?
People are hooking up after the bars and clubs and parties.
So people are just fucking.
So, I mean, even so.
They just fucking touched.
So, but a lot of you said, what I want to go around on this is if you're comfortable sharing, if a body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?
39.
39.
You have a list.
You're on an Excel spreadsheet.
I love that.
So, okay, 39.
Multiply it by 20.
Okay, yeah, I think we also got a chat here.
Oh, no, that's a different one.
Okay, go ahead.
Am I?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't count.
You don't?
I think a person as a person is not a freaking number.
You so know.
Hold on.
I actually don't.
You so know.
Is it more than 10?
I actually don't know.
Like, I've never counted.
More than 20.
More than 30.
Definitely.
More than 40.
No, no, no, no.
It's definitely under 20, but I've never counted.
So 19.
Honestly, I can't tell you.
Okay, fair enough.
I honestly don't know either.
But I mean.
Range?
She knows.
I don't.
I truly don't know because it's not something that I think about when I hook up with somebody and I have a connection with somebody.
I'm not like, oh my God, I need to add this to a list and I need to count it.
I have a lot going on, like professionally and educationally.
That's not something I'm like, oh my God, I need to count this.
I'm 27 years old.
I've been having sex for 11 years.
It's not like I need to keep account of it.
And it's not ever honestly anything that crosses my mind.
So I don't.
But it's definitely up there.
I'll hook up with whoever I want to.
It's not like I'm hooking up with just whoever I see on the street, but it's just like if I want to hook up with somebody and we have a connection, I'll do it.
Yeah.
If I see somebody and I get to know them and I like them, I'm going to hook up with them.
There's nothing like stopping.
Do you have a sense of the range?
Maybe not an exact number, but you have a sense of the range.
I mean, yeah, it's probably like 30, 40, probably the same age as Alex, I assume.
We're friends.
We're about the same here.
Yeah.
Are you guys Eskimo sisters or what?
Definitely.
Multiple times over.
Wow.
That's what bestie is means.
We are best friends.
And it's like something that we bond over.
Like, it's fun to talk about with her.
Okay, good times.
Yeah, good times.
It is.
Okay, wow.
Were there any instances where there was a shared encounter?
No.
Okay, not that far.
Not yet.
Yeah, not that.
Never say never.
It's in the works.
It's in the works.
It is.
Jane.
I don't feel comfortable sharing that personal information, to be quite honest.
It's not a judgmental thing towards anyone.
It's just for me.
Also, if my mom happens to see this, I just really don't want her to know out of respect for her.
Mom, turn off the stream.
Turn off the stream, mom.
Turn off the screen.
Okay, she's gone.
You can.
Yeah, anyway.
Yeah, no, I'm not telling you that.
But it's, you know, I feel like for me, I've reigned back quite a bit.
I do somewhat resonate with you a little bit because I noticed that when I would kind of just casually start sleeping with people really quickly, the relationships were like, I didn't really know them personally.
So I've started to rein back on how quickly I start to do that.
So for me, it's been a while.
Okay.
Yeah.
Kiki?
Okay.
Brandon?
Body count?
80-ish, 100-ish.
I don't know.
Nice.
Nice.
Okay, Tanner.
Yeah, honestly, that's some pretty important people watching this.
I don't really want to share that.
Totally fine.
And I think you, Seven, you already told us.
Okay, cool.
Oh, you.
So, me?
Yeah.
Yeah, what's up, Brian?
Come on, bro.
Well, I am a man of God.
And as a man of God, I don't kiss and tell.
I'm a very discreet individual.
I do not share this information.
But, anyways, let's do some super chats, guys.
Let's do some super chats.
Yes, lawyer.
Yo, can I make a comment on one of the comments I saw?
Let me get through super chats, and if you remember, we'll get to it.
Hold on, Chris.
Let me won't you stay live and just catch any super chats coming in, Chris, and I'll pull them up.
Okay, so let's see.
We've got Junior Soprano.
These girls never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Lie, actually, I was varsity.
So, sorry.
From Junior Soprano, the head mob boss of the Soprano Crime Family in New Jersey.
Okay.
Thank you, Junior Soprano, for that comment.
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Okay.
Let's see here.
We have we'll come back to Stiffler's comment.
We got, okay, super chats.
Mike Davis with the good to see you, Mike.
Glad you can make it again.
Thank you for the $5 super chat.
Much appreciated.
Brian, by the way, I want to warn the panel: this is our resident roaster shit talker.
He's going to talk shit about everyone on the panel.
Brian, where'd you pull this wannabe gangster?
Tell him to be on the lookout.
I heard the PD is doing some crackdowns.
I think he's referring to Alexa over here.
Alex Charles, she's having a run.
I think.
Actually, Mr. Davis, I mean, we see you come in every week and you drop your $5 and your $10 just to be relevant in the minds of people that will probably never see you.
If you want to know a wannabe and you want to exchange paperwork on who's real and who's not, drop that location.
Oh, be a man.
Be a man, right?
Back up that $4.99.
You know what I'm saying?
Drop that location.
We're in IV live right now.
You know what I'm saying?
I won't hate the player, won't hate the game.
Just pull up and have that same style in your comment, and we'll go from there.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Fuck.
Yo, Mike Davis.
Brandon's a G. Be careful.
Okay.
I think he's going to talk more.
Okay.
This gangster guy is making up his type as he goes along.
His actual type.
I'm just flattered that you dedicated $10 to talk shit to someone you never met, bro.
I think he has a crush on you, Brandon.
Either that or he just doesn't have a life.
And I think if you're throwing away money to provide nothing constructive, you definitely got to have no life.
But you support my boy and his channel, so keep having that no life and keep supporting the channel, sir.
Okay, Mike Davis with the Mike Davis, $5 super chat.
Thank you, Mike.
Mike is bankrolling this channel right now.
Wow.
So this Christian dude sounds like a total tool regurgitating old school nonsense, acting like he's dropping truth bombs.
No one knows.
Mike Davis, you're a little spicier tonight than usual.
So do you have a response to Mike on that one?
I just got paid.
Mike Davis.
It is Thursday.
It's called the word of God.
It's called the Word of God, brother.
Okay.
Mike Davis.
Askia underscore Musa.
Thank you for the $20 super chat.
The thoughtry is over $9,000.
Good lord.
Okay.
I mean, he did give us $20.
That's fine.
Okay.
I think that's shots fired at the girls.
you guys have a response um I mean I just doesn't matter like what if people like care about any of that to me like that's just not the type of person I'm going for The type of people I date, that just isn't important to them.
And it's not like I'm out here fucking everybody.
I'm just open.
I'm open with what I've done.
I'm open with whom I'm going to be.
I'm open with what I'm going to continue to be.
And if that doesn't align with your values, that's good because I want somebody who's going to align with my values.
And the guys that I date, it does.
It's never really a problem.
And yeah.
Alex, anything?
I don't know.
I went through a thought phase.
Doesn't mean I'm a thought anymore.
But it just doesn't matter.
You went through a ho phase.
Yes.
What was your ho phase?
I guess I'm kind of always going through them sometimes.
But I still have standards and I'm still like, I don't know.
I'm picky.
So.
Yeah, I mean, when guys hook up with a lot of people, it's attractive, you know?
When girls hook up with just people that they like or who they want to hook up with, it's seen as bad.
Yeah.
That is a hot take here.
That's a totally justified double standard.
Yeah, no, it definitely is.
Like, to me, I don't, that's why I just don't see it.
When girls hook up with like whoever they want to, I just don't see it as a bad thing.
I just never really have.
Like, I see guys hooking up with who they want, and I'm like more proud of them.
Same with girls.
Like, I think that we should all be empowered in who we want to be.
If you want to hook up with nobody, if you want to hook up with less people, that's great.
If you want to hook up with who you want to hook up with and know your standards and find out who you want to be sexually, then like, that's what I want you to do.
Word.
Yeah.
I just really don't think it matters.
Like, why?
Why does it matter?
I don't know.
Because this is the mentality that's destroying the West.
Am I the only one who thinks thought refers to a hot chick versus a hoe?
I feel like make the scent that goes out.
I realize this counts as a thought.
But Askia Musa, thank you very much for the big $20 super chat.
Much appreciated.
It's over $9,000.
And he says $20 on that chat.
Will Smith with the $2 super chat?
That's my black baby, the blue-haired girl is holding.
Yeah, that's a fetal alcohol syndrome is going on.
It's not a hydro flash.
Okay.
No Bullsmith with the $5 Super Chat.
Also a member, by the way.
Would dating a religious person be off the table for the non-religious people and vice versa?
Why or why not?
Let's really quick just go around yes or no answer on this one.
No, it would not be off the table.
Definitely not off the table.
I think religious people are awesome.
Yeah, it's not off the table.
I think that I don't really like, I haven't had really meaningful connections with people that are like super religious, but I don't think that it would be off the table for me at all.
I'm definitely like open.
Yeah, it's off the table for me.
What is like, are you religious or not?
I am religious.
So if they're not religious.
If they're not religious, yeah.
If she is a good girl getting ready to go bad, she is definitely on the table.
Yeah, I'm a Christian, so it'd be off the table for sure.
I mean, you already know, like, it's off the table.
Yeah.
I'm not, I'm not particularly religious, so.
I thought you said you're a man of God, bro.
Oh, shit.
10 minutes ago.
I've been busted.
I've been busted.
I mean, yeah, as far as I wouldn't not date a woman who is like Christian or Catholic or whatever or some other religion.
But I know some like Christian women or Catholic women, they're waiting, they're waiting till marriage.
And for me, I'm just, I'm not going to wait.
So then that would just be a deal breaker.
Not that I think that there's anything wrong, and it's more power to them, but just for me, I don't want to wait until marriage.
I'm not even getting married, so that's a whole other conversation.
You want to test drive the vehicle before you buy it?
Yes.
Yes.
And I'm not waiting till marriage, so I'm not ever getting married.
So, yeah.
Okay.
Well, thank you, everyone, for the super chats there.
So I'm going to bring it back to preferences here.
Wait, you missed one.
Paige McNeil.
Oh, Paige McNeil, thank you for the Paige McNeil, you rock.
Chase you rock, love.
Thank you, Paige McNeil, for the super chat.
Okay, is that one of your ex-girlfriends or what?
One of my good friends.
Okay, cool.
Good times.
Good times.
Super-based female.
That's cute.
One of my favorite people.
Okay, so bringing it back to preferences, were there on this side of the table for the ladies, were there any preferences that you heard from this side of the table from the men that you object to or you take quarrel with?
No.
So one of the preferences is low body count.
Would you take quarrel with a guy, if that was his preference, if the guy said, hey, I don't want to date a girl who has a high body count?
I wouldn't want to know the reasons for him saying that, because if he's like, oh, if she sleeps with a lot of people, then that's just like bad.
I'll be like, okay, well, this person can't think critically, so no.
Wait, they can't think critically.
You can't think critically about things, right?
Explain that.
Oh, because they're just like, oh, she's stuffed with a lot of people, or he slept with a lot of people, therefore this is a bad person.
I'm like, well, you can't really think properly then.
No-go.
Well, I'm not sure if that's what they're suggesting.
I'm not sure if they're suggesting that they're a bad person.
All right.
But they might be suggesting other things.
And also, I do take offense earlier when you said promiscuous instead of high body count.
don't think those are the same thing house what what what do you consider to be the because promiscuous is a negative word and i don't think high body count is necessarily a negative High body count is probably a negative.
Promiscuous is like like people who cheat right?
Yeah, it's like people who cheat people who like All right.
Dictionary definition.
I think that's what it means.
I'm pretty sure.
It's like people who cheat.
Right?
It's promiscuity, right?
Promiscuity means like you're not being loyal to whatever it is that you're doing.
They're defining the word with the word.
Promiscuity, the factor state of being promiscuous.
Thank you, Google.
It's so helpful.
I feel like I just wanted to say that.
Am I misusing the words?
Okay, having or characterized by many, many transient sexual relationships.
I mean, that's basically the same as having a high body count.
I wouldn't say that.
Many transient.
Look at the second definition, though.
Demonstrating or implying an indiscriminating or unselective approach, indiscriminate or casual.
Casual.
Because you can be promiscuous and not just the sexual part.
You can be promiscuous, like, let's say, if you were a lawyer, right?
You could be promiscuous in the ways that you practice, right?
It could be like borderline wrong.
Wait, what?
Oh, wait, I'm not following.
I'm not at all.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
Wait, you could be promiscuous how beyond sexuality?
Like, people could be promiscuous in sexuality, but you can also be promiscuous in like other decisions.
It doesn't necessarily have to constantly always go towards sexuality.
I think the definition says just the sexual thing.
Well, then I'm wrong.
Wait, so.
It's okay.
I just promiscuous.
Wait, Brian, what was the original question?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The original question.
The original question was.
Do we take offense?
Is there anything on this side of the table that you take quarrel with in terms of the men's stated preferences?
No.
So body count.
Well, let's continue with the body count.
Jane does.
I see it on her face.
Wait, I was reading the comments.
I would just say right now.
Never mind.
Sorry.
I don't take offense to him wanting a low body count.
That's just the people that I talk to or I date, that's just something that wouldn't be a preference for me.
And if that's something, if that's a preference that somebody I'm talking to has, I just like probably wouldn't talk to them or date them.
And I think that's fine.
Like, I think that's totally fine to have completely different preferences and to kind of end it there.
Sure.
You know?
Like, I don't take offense to that at all.
You don't hate me?
No, no, not at all.
I think that that's great.
I think that that's great that you know what you want.
I think it's great that I know what I want.
I think that makes us more developed individuals and that makes us kind of like smarter, honestly, in like going towards what we want.
That's fair.
Yeah.
Okay, while I'm at it, I just need to do these super chats.
Excuse me.
JD with the $2 super chat.
Host has blue eyes.
Go get him, Chase.
Let's go.
Yo, you trying to get it?
Stare into each other's eyes, please.
So I think his body counts, though, too.
Bro, you're cute.
You're just not my type, dude.
Shit, shit.
Done.
Not tall or athletic enough for you?
Not blonde enough.
I'm not six feet.
I'm six feet.
He also doesn't have a vagina.
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
Don't disclose it.
I'm sorry for your vision.
Okay.
Askia Musa, thank you, man, with the big $20 super chat.
Asuka, thank you very much.
Appreciate the support.
Not bad, just repulsive.
Well, I'll know who that's aimed at, but obviously.
Be nice to Kiki, Askia.
She's very sensitive.
She's, you know, she's so good looking, dude.
She's a big fan of her.
I love her.
She's a big.
Actually, okay, while we're here, M1 Garand asks, would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned 100%?
Very much so.
Absolutely.
Does it make him more attractive?
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Why?
Protection.
I like guns.
I really like farms.
They're cool.
Also, it means he makes it.
Shooting is like very mental.
It's not just a grassland.
The best shooters in the world, the best female shooters in the world are all Chinese, by the way.
Just had to make a little comment.
Represent.
Okay.
Is it in like the Olympics or whatever in the shooting?
Okay.
Were you born in China, by the way?
I left when I was.
Do you speak Mandarin or Cantonese?
Mandarin and a teeny tiny bit of canto.
Okay, and when did you move to the business?
Do you speak Mandarin?
When I was 17.
I'm a bit, I'm, you know, conversational.
Oh, you speak Mandarin?
Antony.
On the all.
Sorry.
Just, never mind.
So the question was, we'll just go around the panel really quick.
I'll pull it back up.
Would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
I mean, yeah, sure.
Okay.
And you said yes?
Yes.
I'm pretty.
I'm pretty against guns, so probably not, but I accidentally have.
You accidentally have dated a couple guys with guns, you know?
So I guess I would.
Jane?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay, so if the guy had a firearm for self-defense, legally owned, that's a deal breaker for you.
I mean, it's been a conversation that I've had, and I've been like, hey, I just kind of really don't.
You wouldn't feel protected if the guy had a firearm?
No, I date some pretty crazy guys.
So it's like, I don't really want them to have a firearm.
They're pretty nuts, usually.
Sure.
Okay.
You said you don't want a guy to have a firearm?
No, because they're usually pretty crazy.
Like, I don't really, like, trust in the game.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I understand why you might think that.
Let me, let me, let me.
Okay, being serious.
I understand why you might think that, but we have a specialist here at the table.
I mean, I.
Yeah, I own a firearms training company.
So, you know, for me, I attribute people with guns.
Like, there's a lot of people that own guns that need training.
There's a lot of people that unfortunately don't go out and get it.
So that's why I've opened it up in Santa Barbara County just so people have like a safe place where they're referring to you.
I just want to say to you, he's one of the most sober-minded individuals I've ever met.
No, I'm not saying that, like, people with guns.
Like, I'm just saying that the guys that I personally date.
Like, I'm not saying guys with guns are crazy.
Like, I'm saying the guys that I'm personally involved with usually turn out to be pretty crazy.
So, like, I just don't trust them with guns.
Why a dealer should?
Oh, I see.
I see.
That's fair.
Yeah.
That's what I mean.
Wait, so why is it that you're attracted to crazy men?
Yeah, this is like an age-long question.
Who is it?
It's an epidemic.
Do you also consider yourself a bit crazy?
I honestly, like, I obviously can have, I can have some emotions I can pop off, but like, I don't really consider myself that crazy, no.
Okay.
I consider myself like the one kind of like calming everything down and keeping everything cool.
So I feel like I kind of have like a need to, you know, obviously, like, this is just super, I don't know how to say it, but, you know, girls always want to like fix guys.
I don't want to be like that, but unfortunately, like, unfortunately, like, I do, like, kind of tend to do that.
I tend to do that.
You like the bad, crazy fixer-uppers.
And you want to fix them.
Call me Bob the Builder, you know?
There you go.
So, so let me ask you a question.
Do you think the dudes you've dated would describe you as a sane woman or like a crazier woman?
Alex?
Be honest.
Be honest if you're honest.
I think you're wild.
I'm wild.
So I don't think that's.
Sagittarius, half Scorpio, half Sagittarius.
She's crazy.
I don't know.
I feel like.
So they totally think you're crazy.
That's okay.
I don't think that they think I'm crazy.
Now, like, honestly, I'm going to be honest with you.
Like, every relationship that I've left in the past four or five years has been like, they've been begging for me on their hands and knees back.
True.
They don't think I'm crazy.
I'm usually the one that makes their life.
I'm usually the one that does fix some part of their life and make them a little bit better than they were and then leave the relationship.
No, she holds it down.
She's like staple.
Wait, quick question.
Does anyone here not like crazy?
No, absolutely.
I do not.
They hate crazy.
They don't like crazy people.
I'm a fan of crazy.
I want the most demure, calm people.
Oh, because you're a man of God.
Not even because I'm a man of God.
It's just a preference.
I don't want to go home to a headache.
I want to go home.
I live a stressful life.
I've got enemies.
I want to go home.
And I don't want a girl quarreling and arguing and all this shit.
I want a girl to just go home and to be chill and everything's good.
I don't want crazy.
I think what I was thinking is I like intense, but I don't like crazy.
You know, that's different.
I agree.
I want the most boring woman.
I want a boring woman who's quiet and shy and that's what I want.
Oh, I know places.
That sounds so cool.
I'll let you sound terrible.
You got a couple?
You got a couple?
Okay.
She's got to be a little different, bro.
And for most girls nowadays to be a little different, she's got to be a little crazy.
Doesn't mean drama crazy.
Yeah.
Or crazy.
Got to have it.
I feel like people confuse, though, for women, for me, how I feel about this, is that I feel like people like to confuse femininity sometimes where we get stressed out and we get hormonal and we'll cry sometimes randomly and they're like, oh, she's crazy.
It's like, no, that's just, that's just me being a woman sometimes, and that's just how it is.
But I don't want to slash someone's tires.
I don't want to emotionally manipulate somebody.
And I don't want to ever, you know, wrong someone to the point where it's like I burn a bunch of bridges.
You know, I don't want to ever do that to anyone.
I don't want that done to me.
So when people say they like crazy, I'm like, do you really want to do that?
Because like either way, you're mentally both going to mess each other up.
And like, that's just not good for anyone.
And also your therapy session is going to be really expensive.
That's not cheap.
Just saying.
Whose therapy session?
Maybe mine.
Okay.
All right.
Let's do a couple of super chats here really quick because we had a couple to come in.
Let's see.
Anthony Lopez.
Thank you for the $5 super chat.
Thank you for the support.
What would you choose if you could remain an AH forever?
I'm not entirely sure how that's related to dating, but 18, I'd go back to maybe 18.
You could even drink then.
I don't really drink, so.
Occasionally.
I mean, I'd say 24.
Yeah.
I think men usually peak around like late 30s, like early 40s, so probably down like 40, something like that.
40.
I choose 37.
Okay, thank you for the super chat, Anthony Lopez.
You might have gotten lost at the, I think the transhumanist stream is, I don't even know.
Okay.
Yo, read that dude's from the 1850 one.
1850?
Yeah, it's at the top.
Oh, geez.
On the right?
Yeah, the $10 super chat underneath the city.
I'll get to it.
I'll get to it.
Mike Davis with the $10 super chat.
Thank you very much, Mike Davis.
Wanna be gangster talks about $5 to $10 like it's a bag since that's a high-end.
By the way, Brandon, if these are deeply offending you, I don't have to read them.
No, not at all.
I think it's funny this guy's got time to send money to talk to you.
Okay.
Bro, you caught his eye.
Mike Davis, your mama.
Your sister and your daughter.
Come on.
Oh, goddamn.
They all want the rebel, bro.
Come see me in Brownsville, BK.
Where's Burke?
Where's the Burger King?
Burger King.
Burger King.
Brownsville, Burger King.
Yo, what's up?
They got some good fries there.
Why would he choose Burger King?
Don't get up.
All the places he's like, you know what's a good place to fight?
Burger King.
No, he's like, I have the crown, bro.
I just fight.
I'm fucking ready to go.
Yo, Mike Davis, let's get you on the show sometime.
Let's go.
He's donated nothing.
Mike Rebel on the show maybe one of these days if he's up for it.
He's got enough money for us.
You got to speak into the mic.
A little bit of plane ticket money, get him out here, maybe debate Rebel back and forth.
Got to find him at Burger King.
I mean, but I don't want any violence in the studio.
Oh, no, it would be 100% cordial and...
It'll be intellectual violence.
Very intellectual exchange.
Verbal violence.
But Mike Davis, if you're ever down to come to Santa Barbara, we'll get you on the show because you're a fucking legend.
Okay.
But be nice.
Be nice to everyone, Mike Davis.
But thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Stephen Krug with the $10 Super Chat.
$18.50 divorce rate was 3%.
Now you can bang a lot, desensitize your dopamine response from sex.
And you'll end up chasing that more and more rest of your life.
That's not learning.
That's addiction.
Stephen Krug with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you for the support, man.
Much appreciated.
Stephen, respect.
That's facts right there.
I mean, the divorce rate is atrocious.
I know we have a lawyer on the panel.
I know probably divorce law is not your area of expertise.
Unfortunately not or fortunately not.
But I'm sure you are familiar with that the divorce rate is terrible.
Should I be familiar with that?
I don't know.
I'm not because I'm married, but what's going on?
Why are you picking me?
Well, just because you're an attorney, but I do obviously realize attorneys have various different specialties.
But I mean, maybe you glanced over in law school, some family law.
It's been going up, up, up, up.
Yeah, so it's really bad.
So is that because of why?
Why is the divorce rate going up?
I think one reason is culture is changing.
Like, since I am from China, I know I keep mentioning China.
It's such a different world in terms of dating and growing up and your life experiences and your family.
So in China, divorce is still kind of not okay.
How high is the divorce rate in China?
I think it's pretty low.
I don't know.
Like, let's say 13, 20%.
Do you know if in China it's men or women that initiate the divorce versus?
No, here in the U.S., it's definitely what they do.
Do they even get divorced?
I think in China, it might be men more.
You know, they make it.
They want to marry a younger woman, hotter women, whatever, feel young again.
That's generally the pattern.
Women can't really leave.
I think it's worth in South Korea and Japan because once you get married, if your husband is making whatever income, then no job for you, girl.
You're a full-time stay-at-home mom.
Like, a lot of my friends who went to university with me from Korea and Japan, actually mostly Korea, they refuse to go back to Korea because they want to work.
They don't want to get married and then just instantly become like a trophy wife, right?
So I think China is slightly becoming more and more liberal, and then women feel like they could get divorced if it's really bad.
Divorce rate in China is actually 50%, like the U.S. Did you say 50%?
50%?
50.
Oh, wow.
Well, it's changed a lot since I've been gone, I guess.
I've been gone 10 years.
Sort of, a little bit.
For anybody who didn't hear that, Brian's production assistant, Chris, just said that the divorce rate in China is 50%, which is surprising.
That's a lot higher than I thought.
Yeah, it's pretty surprising.
Chris, do you have the numbers on men versus women initiating?
It's 50.7% and it's up 75% in a decade.
Yeah, okay.
So I left China 11 years ago, so I'm very outdated on the info.
But like I said, I feel like China now, like, women are having high-income jobs.
They are standing up for themselves.
Domestic abuse is being reported.
Police are like actually doing stuff to help those situations.
So then it's going up a lot.
I don't know if 50, 60% is just like where every country plateaus off, because I feel like that number is pretty standard across Western civilization.
But I bet if you look at India, it's pretty low.
Are you a plant for the CCP?
She is, dude.
I'm actually a Chinese spy.
Yes.
Okay, just curious.
Just want to make sure.
Just want to make sure.
estimate one-third of all Chinese foreign exchange students are actually working for the CCP.
Huh?
They estimate.
I can't remember.
I'm not sure if it's my soundboard.
Who's that?
I can't remember who published it.
If somebody looked it up.
Wait, what clairvoyance?
It was like from the State Department or, I don't know, somebody official made the claim that one third.
I have a story for you.
I got investigated.
Did you?
Yeah, I was living in Hawaii last year of law school.
I guess it's kind of suspicious why this Chinese chick who doesn't have a Chinese accent is living in Hawaii.
You knew like going around the naval bases and just kind of taking it.
I was seeing a Navy officer.
Oh, there it is.
So they asked him, do you come into frequent contact with a foreign national?
He's like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, Isabella.
And they were like, well, you must cut off all contact with her unless we investigate her and make sure that she's good.
So then he started joking that I was his Chinese spy.
Based.
Wow.
God damn.
It was very intense.
So very intense.
You got to the DOJ.
Who would investigate that?
The military.
Yeah, whoever they're investigating.
The military.
Okay.
And so you were a suspect in an investigation.
Very suspect.
They were like, what do your parents do?
Who are your grandparents?
Anyone in the government?
Anyone in the military?
Write down every single roommate you've ever had, all your addresses in the past 10 years.
How long were you investigated for?
So I had to fill out a form, and it was a long form.
And then his clearance got revoked for a long time.
What?
Suspended.
Because he was dating you?
Yeah.
Damn.
So he had top secret and something else.
Wow.
Jesus.
Pretty smart.
Oh, wait.
So how did you prove your innocence that you weren't a CCP spy?
Because unfortunately, I'm not.
I would love to be.
Every CCP.
Every CC spy.
Every CC.
That's what he said.
That's what they would say.
Yeah, every single spy.
Honestly, I felt honored.
I was like, wow, they think I'm like female 007?
Like, yes, yes, let's go.
Carefully.
But then I was like, oh, this is really annoying.
They're like being really nosy.
But they investigate everyone, right?
Like before you get top secret clearance, they call up like your family, your exes, like your high school teacher, and they're like, does this person love America?
All right, we're going off topic, Brian.
That's actually fascinating.
Yeah, I kind of didn't mean to derail the whole conversation with that.
But yeah, wait, we, I'll just.
I'll just give a little piece on this.
Wait, so I'm pretty sure, like, do you guys think that this is totally unrelated to dating?
Do you guys think that China is going to overtake the U.S.?
I think that's their goal.
Political here.
I think they're doing what's called a 100-year marathon.
There was a book written about this.
I think their goal is to overtake the U.S. by the year 2049.
I think it's highly likely that they're working to subvert American society and kind of pit demographics against one another to make us basically fall apart from within so that they can defeat us without even firing a shot.
Well, I think the culture over there in a lot of ways is better than the culture that's currently going on in the U.S.
And I think like in China?
Bro, it's like totalitarian communism.
Do you mean like things get done under a totalitarian government?
Maybe Brian is just brand.
Whoa, he speaks Mandarin, right?
I speak Mandarin.
Maybe you're shilling, dude.
Are you shilling for the CCP right now, bro?
Dude, you're one of the agents subverting America.
You're on the CCP payroll, aren't you?
He is, PPC.
This is CCP propaganda.
This is straight up CCP propaganda.
Bro.
Which one does it run?
Brian, I think after this show, you need to get some personal protection from Tanner's company.
Well, it's more so just a potential.
It's like a security risk for the United States because, I mean, I think that, okay, we're getting really political here.
But what I see China doing is, I mean, look how divided we are in the U.S.
They don't, China's a fairly homogeneous country-ish, right?
Because of culture or ethnicity.
Yeah, you literally, people literally get put in prison.
So I'm not saying that that is a good thing.
The freedoms that we have in America are fantastic.
But what I'm saying is, is that I don't know what I'm saying.
They have to go achieve that end goal.
They're not like inviting like we are.
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yeah.
Okay.
I get you.
I think democracy is amazing and every country should strive for it.
But I think depending on the current situation of a country, it might not be the best political system for every country.
Right?
Like, look at Egypt.
All right.
Okay.
We're going to get to that.
Dude, who needs democracy when you could have communist totalitarian dictatorships where you get thrown in jail for criticizing the government?
Everyone in my life.
I'm going to get roasted in the comments here.
Roast him.
I'm just aware of the in terms of the country that I think poses the biggest threat to the United States.
It undoubtedly undoubtedly has to be China.
It's not Russia.
It's not Iran.
It's China.
I agree definitely.
We should do a podcast on this.
It's not Russia.
Is it really a country, though?
Because they are military sex.
What's going on?
Yeah.
A country is independent and could be sovereign, but it's an ideology that cripples people from the inside out, right?
So you can have totalitarianism going on in Russia.
You can have it going on in China.
You can have it going on in Cuba whenever it would happen.
Guys, I'm not a communist.
The ideology, the ideology is what kills people.
I've derailed.
We're going to move on because I'm just going to say that.
I'm going to say one thing first.
Mantis, once again, buy American, absolutely essential.
Like find local businesses that support Americans and make America made or providing jobs to Americans and sport them.
You might be paying like 20 bucks, 30 bucks more, but 100% worth it.
Do it.
100%.
Also, star 0809 said, China wants the U.S. divided and weak.
And the person above him said China is using TikTok to brainwash Americans.
100%.
100%.
This is how you beat a country without firing a single shot.
Okay.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
By the way, I hope you didn't take offense to us going into that.
Oh, no, I'm used to it.
You brought up China a few times, so I was just kind of referencing it.
China's a great country.
I was riffing.
It's a beautiful country full of beautiful people.
Y'all should check it out.
Okay, so.
He's like, they deny him when he gets to.
We will accept you with a loving embrace.
Hell yeah.
So, okay.
We're going to go back to the topic of preferences.
So I didn't list my preferences, so I'm going to do that.
Short, petite women.
If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
Four?
Four.
If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
She's cute, though.
411.
4'10.
Oh, okay.
So you want to feel like Shaq.
Because Shaq's girlfriend is a little bit more comfortable.
Well, I am very pale.
So I mean, not quite like Shaq, but height-wise, yeah, you know.
So there's that.
I think I've already mentioned this.
Large labia.
The bigger the better.
You know who you are?
What?
Yikes.
DMs are open, ladies.
What?
DMs are open.
Very specific.
Like, is that like, how do you come up with a different person?
Are these mandatory or are these different things?
No, no, no.
So none of these.
Do you just like have dinner and just have a glass of wine and be like, so I love what you do for work.
Great personality.
So how big is your labia?
Like, is that how it comes out?
Well, so just to answer your question first, none of these are deal breakers.
Okay.
So would I date a woman who's 5'4, 5'7 taller than me?
Sure, of course.
But overall, I do have a preference for short, petite women.
Dude, there's no way you want women that are 4'11.
Bro, the shorter, the better.
What the hell does that?
You'd lose them in a crowd.
I'm not saying that they're undesirable.
I'm not saying they're undesirable.
I'm saying that's such a strangely specific legally a midget.
That's what I want.
Oh, my God.
4'9.
Now we're talking about the best.
Oh, you're gonna be interested.
I see.
Six feet.
Six feet.
I do prefer short petite women.
I would date a dwarf.
DMs are open.
Midget, yeah.
I would date one.
What is the correct way?
How do you actually correctly?
Do you say midget or do you say dwarf?
I think little person is now.
No, that would be offensive.
No, no, that's what they want.
That's what they want.
They hate midget.
I don't know about dwarfs.
Dwarf.
I hate midget.
Literally?
People?
Yeah.
I feel like people like consciousness.
You know the show Little People Big World?
Yeah, it's like the PC tour.
I don't feel like that's like the most accurate.
Why don't we just say very short people?
Yes.
What's wrong with saying very short person?
You'd prefer very short people rather than little people?
Because they're not little.
There's a differentiation between someone who's very short and someone who has dwarfism.
But I'll date a dwarf.
Okay.
So maybe thicker.
Yeah, so, but you guys, you guys seem you guys seem to have a reaction to the large labia thing.
What was your question?
It was just like, how do you bring that up?
Like, obviously, you're joking about it right now.
No, I'm dead serious.
Okay, I'm dead serious.
DM me.
So you're like, you're on it.
You're on a date with someone, right?
You're going over, you know, basic characteristics that they do for work.
You're getting to know them.
You make sure you have the same humor and shit like that.
And then you just slide that bitch in at the end and you're just like, by the way.
No, no, no.
So you think about me.
You just see what happens.
And then at the same point, would you be accepting if they were like, so how big's your?
Like, would you be accepting?
That's a fair question.
That's a fair question.
One, I would never ask a woman.
A woman?
Oh, as opposed to a child?
What?
Yes, a woman, an adult human female.
So I would never ask, as opposed to a man?
Like, does men don't have a woman?
I don't know if that dishes came out.
Sure, sure, sure.
So, yeah, I would never ask a girl like, hey, just wondering, you know, before we get frisky, do you have large labia?
I would never do that.
You would just see what happens.
you scope them out you gotta yeah it's just like Brian do you mean like protruding hanging type thing or The bigger, the better.
What does it make a difference?
The bigger, the better.
Wizard sleeve, somebody in the chat says that.
So, okay.
There are some terms which I find deeply offensive, deeply offensive terms.
You've got wizard sleeve is one of them.
Beef curtains, Arby's.
There's maybe a few other terms.
Roasty.
Roasty is one.
Now, I know, I don't want to be flippant about this.
I know we're having a lot of fun, but I do genuinely think it is a point of, for women who do have large labia, it is actually a point of insecurity for a lot of them.
And I know we're having fun here, but genuinely, it is unfortunate that some women are shamed if they do have a large labia.
I'm a fan.
It's not, for me, it's not a deal breaker.
If a girl doesn't, I'm still, I'm going to say no, you know.
I kind of love that.
But it is a preference.
It is a preference.
Why not?
Whatever you want.
It's fine.
So, yeah, I would never bring it up in conversation.
But if a girl started asking me about my penis size, I'm asking her about her labia.
So what if she wants like a 13-inch dong?
Are you in?
She's going to find somebody else because I'm average.
I'm average as fucking math department.
I'd split the bill and leave for sure.
Wait, wait, if she wants.
I mean, she's free to have her preference for that, but like she's going to be disappointed if she's fucking with me.
Literally.
What?
Wait, what?
But what?
Wait, what was the topic?
Your preferences.
Yeah, my preferences.
Okay, large labia, one of them.
All labia matter.
Solidarity.
And women who are not plastic.
So no fake lips, no fake tits, no BBL, no tummy tuck.
I don't like it.
I don't think it looks good.
Roger that.
Amen.
Don't think it looks good.
Like, I just, it's the lips, they look that.
And then the fake tits, the BBL looks fucking terrible.
What's BBL?
Brazilian butt lift.
It's the fake.
It looks like really bad for Kim Kardashian.
Think of Kim Kardashian like three years ago.
Like three years ago.
I mean, similar to my previous statement, I think it is an unfortunate state of affairs that people are feeling the need to adhere to this very superficial beauty standard and they're undergoing dangerous surgery and they're spending tens of thousands of dollars to make themselves look worse.
I'm just going to say, I don't think, I mean, maybe we can ask the guys here.
Does a girl look better with plastic surgery?
Absolutely not.
I think it makes her look worse.
100%.
Yeah.
You can ask the girls too.
We have an opinion.
Yeah, that's superficial.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
I think Kim K is stunning, but there are other women.
I think the ones that prior to plastic surgery.
I think the ones that look good that you don't know it's plastic surgery.
However, I think she was cuter before she had.
You have no idea.
She was cuter.
Yeah, she was super cute.
She looks super cute.
And then now she still looks great, but not as cute as before.
The trick to what you just said, Aster.
Like, the trick is if you're going to get it done, it can't look like you got it.
It can't look crazy, of course.
You know, it's not subtle, but like a lot of girls, like, I will promise you, like, a lot of girls have it, and you have no idea.
Yeah.
And they look good.
And they look good.
If you're going to get it done, like, that's what you got to do.
Just keep it subtle.
The second you can like get, you get that plastic look, it's like.
Yeah.
Too shiny.
She doesn't look healthy.
Like anytime you have plastic in your body, like no way that's healthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not natural plastic.
I'd take a lot of time.
It's going to be like shiny.
No way.
Yeah.
A lot of chicks who get breast implants end up having like serious health issues as a result of it.
No, for sure.
But my mom's boot popped.
No way.
That's rough.
She had to get a resurgery like two weeks ago.
That's like so bad.
Yeah, she's going through it.
Rip.
How to pop.
Rest in peace.
It just pops.
Wait, your mom's?
Yeah.
Wait, who is this?
Who is it?
Your mom's?
My mom.
Yo, F in the chat for F in the chat for Alex's channel.
Alex or Alexa?
Alex.
F in the chat for Alex's mom and her.
No, she's hot.
She is.
Oh, she's there.
Maybe we got to get her on the show.
Yeah.
Let's get your mom on.
But, okay, what else?
Also, a preference of mine, no makeup or very minimal makeup.
Maybe some mascara or eyeliner.
Honestly, anything more is kind of a letdown.
Gonna just say that.
Well, you just like the natural girl aesthetic.
Yeah.
Clean girl, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, you know?
That's fine.
So basically, he wants to date someone really gorgeous, natural.
Good luck, Bras.
She's 4'11.
I want a 4'11 woman with no plastic surgery who doesn't wear makeup, who's got a large labium.
That's it.
And she's had never had sex before.
She's out there somewhere.
Somewhere.
Somewhere.
She's a woman of God, probably.
A woman of God.
A woman of God.
I have a question for the guys.
Most of you seem to kind of agree that you like the more natural aesthetic, which is totally like whatever your preference is.
Personally, I don't really care, like, whatever someone wants to do with their body.
It's what they want to do with their body.
But do you feel like the way men look at bodies now and they see really plastic stuff and they think that that's what real life looks like now has misconstrued a lot of it?
Because that's what I feel like.
Like I don't necessarily want to get work done, but sometimes I think I consider it because I do want to sometimes fit the mainstream narrative a little bit.
Don't do it.
I'm not, I'm not, I don't think I'll ever really, really will because I want to, I want to look how I look and I just kind of want to go with it.
And I feel like if you like me, you like me, you don't, you don't.
And it kind of is what it is, you know what I mean?
But I feel like, do you personally feel that the mainstream narrative is really misconstrued and kind of looked at what you consider natural beauty is not that pretty anymore?
Like, do you feel like it's not as, you know, it's not as popular anymore and it's a little bit harder for you guys to find?
Let's start with Brandon over here.
So when I see a woman, it's very natural and she might not be, you know, God-given the most attractive female, but she carries herself with so much confidence and it's very obvious that she doesn't really care about who's judging her or who's, you know, whatnot.
That is 10 times more sexy than a girl that can't stay out of the mirror, too much makeup, constantly worried about how, I mean, it's just, it's too, she's too much into herself.
She's not figured out how she is, how she wants to feel.
So for a dude to get in a relationship with someone like that, it's going to be a lot of self-centered dialogue going on as opposed to someone who's just like, hey, this is how I am.
I'm happy being me.
I'm not going to change nothing.
If I do, I'm going to rock it and go with it.
And hey, that's sexy too.
But if, well, is it bigger?
Do I need to go larger?
Should I, all that kind of stuff right there is take it back to the drawing board and leave it there for me.
Yeah, I'd say, I mean, if you look at somebody that just like tons of plastic in them and whatnot, especially like looking at their lifestyle too, you know, like if she's out and just like, you know, you're like, what do you do for fun?
And like all they do is like go out with their friends and like drink seltzers and like their, you know, their hobby is like wine or something.
Like that to me, like that's unattractive.
Or you know, somebody that like eats bad food, stuff like that.
I mean, I find that if somebody doesn't really wear makeup, but they have like a healthy lifestyle, they eat healthy, like take care of themselves, like respect themselves, that to me is like way more attractive than somebody that would put like $100,000 into their face or like a booblip or whatever.
Yeah.
So I place like a very high premium on like health, right?
Like when I was growing up, my mom, she suffered from Lyme disease.
She was very unhealthy and like it wore down on her.
And one of the things that I want in a wife is someone who's very healthy.
And I think what plastic surgery does, I think plastic surgery almost like mimics what good health looks like in a woman.
Like if a chick's getting like a Brazilian butt lift, it's mimicking like a fertile woman, right?
If a woman gets huge fake tits, that's mimicking fertility in a woman.
And like I personally, I see it and I'm instantly like, uh, but like what I think is like most attractive is when a woman like gets on top of her nutrition.
She gets on top of like learning how to take care of her hormones and how to take care of herself because women tend to They tend to fill out very naturally like like plastic surgery mimics what a really healthy woman looks like and obviously when they've got like double D's like that's not that's not gonna happen for every woman.
But like plastic surgery like if a woman's like manipulating her hips or her waist or her butt or anything like that like women can achieve that to some degree through taking care of themselves and that's like a million times more attractive in my opinion.
What do you think about that?
I'm gonna respond.
Yeah.
Definitely like seeing people that have like that outward overly done plastic surgery look can be a turnoff for you.
But there's a lot of women who are just built like absolute refrigerators who get like a like I'm telling you like they are like there is and they get so true.
They get some work done and like it's very very minimal.
Like I have a lot of friends.
I've gotten like very small little things done and you would absolutely never know.
So it's like you can't say like plastic surgery is outward a turnoff.
It's like when it's overly done and it's outward.
You know what I mean?
Because I promise you, you see these women, you have no idea.
So don't achieve is what you're saying.
You're going to need it done.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, just like don't.
I mean, if that's what they want to do and they want to do like the overdone look, I'll power to them.
But you're saying your preference is a less overdone look, which is.
Yeah.
But some people do get work done to achieve and not overdone like that.
Yeah, not overdone look.
You know what I mean?
They'll be straight, but like this, and you just get a little bit of that, a little bit of that, and you're good.
What I wish was happening is like more women were learning how to exercise and take care of themselves.
Yeah, but okay, if you're built like a fridge, I promise you you're not going to actually exactly like you're not.
I know girls who were quote unquote built like fridges.
Yeah.
And then they started they started eating right and they started exercising in the gym and like they achieved like a curvy waist and like they achieved a nice butt and stuff.
Like there's a lot that like any woman could do that's I absolutely know that.
Like I know that.
I'm not I don't go into plastic surgery.
I completely work out.
I'd eat right.
I do all that to achieve the look that I want.
But I'm naturally like given the shape that I want like luckily.
But there's a lot of people that I know that aren't.
Yeah.
I feel like we should have the hashtag built like a fridge.
Built like a fridge.
If any of the commenters in the chat want to change their username and icon to a fridge and well leave some comments.
We'll highlight it.
But yeah, don't.
I mean my take on that is I mean don't do it.
Don't get plastic surgery.
Don't get shit in your lips.
Brian, do you like women built like fridges?
Built like a fridge?
Yeah.
It's their natural box.
No plastic surgery.
As long as she's 4'11 and has a large large labia, I'm down for it.
She can be any height and have large labia.
I'm down.
Five foot wide.
So let's see.
4'11 feet tall, 5 feet wide, built like a box.
So I listed my fridge.
Let's see.
Okay, so I listed my physical mini fridge.
There we go.
So yeah, we're going to, oh, I didn't do my non-physical trait preferences.
Okay.
Okay.
Nada hoe.
One.
Navajo or not a hoe?
Navajo, who's not a hoe.
I'm down.
I'm down with the tribe.
Let's go to the Chumash.
What's up?
Okay.
Gonna get canceled for that one.
Yeah.
All right, personal protection.
You need lots now.
Yeah.
Well, I'm down with the tribe.
What?
Don't stop repeating it.
Just move on.
Move on.
Move on.
That's not our way.
Move on.
Move on.
Come on.
Let's go.
Okay.
All right.
I think I said something that was bad, but I didn't know it was bad.
Okay.
Anyways, not a single mother.
That's a good one.
Based.
Doesn't drink much or at all.
Doesn't okay, doesn't go to bars or clubs or stops if we get into a relationship.
Based.
And then peace.
Peace is the big one.
You don't want peace.
Yeah, I don't want someone who's quarrelsome and just, I want someone who has a calm, gentle disposition.
Well, you know what?
She's not built like a fridge.
Oh, she's not short enough.
Yeah, unfortunately, her labia is not quite cut.
But no, her chastity is intact.
No one has laid with Kiki.
She's a virgin, actually, so Chase.
I asked what her body count was for people wondering why he said that to me.
Yeah.
Oh, actually, you know what?
This could kind of be a bit of a fun one.
So.
Oh, man.
I don't.
I thought they had it ribbon down, but.
Okay, so on the topic of Kiki, which she is, she's a sex doll.
Her chastity is intact.
Nice, Brandon.
Nice.
This is kind of an oddball question, but.
Oh, you're going to use the restroom.
Oh, okay.
Maybe I'll wait for my question next.
I'll do super chats really quick and then I'll dive into the question.
So, okay, we got some super chats here.
Abo Salamine with the Saudi Arabian.
I think that's the.
I think that's the currency.
Please, no men except the host.
If you want me to keep watching the show every week, or all men with a host, girl, the mix won't work for me.
Okay, you did not like this format.
That is fine.
Thank you.
Mike Davis, what the f?
Okay, Mike Davis.
That is negative.
No, not funny.
That is not true, Mike Davis.
Okay.
4'11, but she can be anywhere from 18 to 40.
There you go.
So, wait, I think you need to specify for everybody, like, what version of 18?
Like, do you mean like she just graduated high school, 18, or like, she's been 18 for like a few months?
Like, I don't know, in college, I guess.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
So it definitely is.
I'm not going on 19.
I'm really not date.
No, no.
I'm just.
But I'm saying I'm talking adults here.
So, I mean, but I mean, most of the women I'm dating are around my age.
So mid-late 20s to early 30s.
Let's see.
Okay, Mike Davis with the.
Okay.
No bullspit with you $5 super chat.
Thank you.
What's the most thing you're insecure about?
Oh, I know.
Really quick, we'll just go around the panel.
I feel like I talk too much and I overshare.
And then I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have said that.
So you're insecure about just talking too much.
Yes.
Yes.
Not really.
Not really anything.
Yeah.
Nothing.
No insecurities?
Not really.
No.
Nothing.
Physically.
No, I think so.
Spiritually.
Psychologically.
Could be nicer to people, maybe.
Okay.
Be a nicer person.
Ashley?
Yeah, I think something that comes to my mind most when I'm thinking about like relationships and what they think of me is that like I am pretty like straightforward and I'm pretty working all the time and I'm pretty like committed to my work too.
So I'm like, oh, that might be something that could be a turnoff.
The fact that I'm like so blunt and so like committed to my work, but I wouldn't say I'm like too like insecure about it.
You know what I mean?
But it's definitely something I think about.
Jane.
Oh, my forehead.
Your forehead.
My forehead.
It bangs.
It's fine.
I purposely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But my forehead for sure.
What?
What about the biggest?
Is it too big?
No, it's massive.
So like I have a ginormous widow peek and it also fucking recedes slightly.
So it's just really fucking big.
No, it looks like it's a good idea.
Okay, don't do the girl thing right now and be like, it looks great.
Like, no, it's okay.
All right.
Hold on.
Hold up your hair again.
I'm not doing it again.
I did one.
I was going to say, I don't think I would have been able to do it.
I'm going to ask you if you hadn't said that.
I don't think, being honest, I'm thinking about it.
Because I work on hiding it next person.
All right.
You know what you could do?
And I actually think women should bring this back is the emo swoop from like 2008, 2007.
The emo swoop, kind of like Kiki has the highest.
So you could do that.
Y'all had it.
Y'all had it.
You could do so not down.
You could do the emo swoop.
I think it should come back.
I think it's a good knot down.
When a girl's longer.
Brandon.
Something you're insecure about?
If you want to answer.
Either the dimples on my lower back or my crooked smile.
How many street fights?
Okay.
Brandon, the dimples on your lower back are from the street fights.
Right?
The crooked smile.
Oh, okay, got it.
Okay.
Brandon, how many street fights have you been in?
Who's counting?
Bro, come on.
Like, what are we talking?
Like, 25?
High school?
10 plus.
What about since then?
You look like a dude who's fucked some dudes up in your time.
You got to take it and give them a try and meet up with Mike.
Not the baddest, bro.
Mike's a pussy.
I feel like Mike has a crush on him.
He's got to crush up the show.
Who knows what he does?
You know what I'm saying?
When it's an all-girl, then he's kind of suspect.
Yeah, Mike Davis, I feel like you have a crush on Brandon, dude.
You could just tell us, man.
That's probably what it is.
Ask him for his number.
Sitting here amongst the Mesa.
He's not, bro.
It's true.
Sorry.
Terrible Mike.
Anyways, Tanner, if you want to just answer that.
It's probably like my time management.
You know, I'll just sit there and scroll through and scream.
Like, well, fuck it, just waste an hour.
Could have worked my business.
Like, done something.
You're insecure about that?
Yeah, I guess for me, it bugs me a lot that I'm kind of shitty about it.
So, yeah.
I guess I would be one.
Yeah.
Just really quick, something insecure about?
Yeah, I have an autoimmune illness called Lyme disease.
It could completely destroy me at any point until I cure myself of it.
So that's a pretty big insecurity that I have as far as relationships and just life goes.
Okay.
What about you?
My biggest insecurity.
Hmm.
I'm very pale.
And I got a big nose.
Probably my big nose.
That's probably it.
Okay, moving on.
Yo, Jane, Carlos says he loves the forehead, by the way.
Okay, well.
You're good.
Jesse D.Paul with the $5 super chat.
Jesse, thank you for the super chat.
Much appreciated.
Do the guys' car care if wife-girlfriend hangs out with male best friend?
Do the guys care if wife-girlfriend hangs out with male best friend?
Brandon, we'll start with you.
Do you care if your girl that you're seeing is hanging out with a guy friend, guy friends?
Sometimes I actually prefer it.
If she has her guy friends, there's an outlet for that.
Some girls like to have guy friends they can soundboard they're flirting with or different types of just dialogue and that's great that she can't really get with her man.
I have no problem with that as long as everything's open and honest and everything's respectful and there's no lying going on or deception.
I'm all for it.
I've had it.
Oh wait, before you leave, we'll just say goodbye to you here real quick.
Yeah, we have, unfortunately, it's Isabella, right?
Unfortunately, Isabella has to take off, but thank you so much for joining us.
Oh, thank you so much.
It was a pleasure.
It was so fun.
Nice meeting you all.
And yeah, let's have you back on another show.
Yes, I love Santa Barbara.
I'll be back.
All right, thank you.
Jane, why don't we have you take her seat?
Brian, did you see California Dreamin's comment?
You're in, dude.
She says big noses on guys are hot.
Boom.
Boom.
Tanner.
Yeah, so I wouldn't be cool with that.
I personally don't really think that men and women can just be completely just platonic friends.
I think there's always kind of something underlying to it for the most part.
I think that they would both have to be really high standards.
There pretty much have to be something reciprocal that each one of them would be getting that would not be sex flirtatiousness or whatnot.
I think it really would have to make a relationship that goes really far back.
I don't know.
For the most part, I would not like that.
You know what I mean?
So you don't think that a woman could have a male best friend?
Personally, like, no, I think it's a little bit weird.
No way.
That's actually so crazy to me.
Okay.
Yeah.
I actually agree with the guys on this one because I cannot stand for me when a guy has a female best friend.
It like irritates the shit out of me.
Because for me, I feel like when I'm in a very close, loving relationship with someone, there should be no reason why you need to go to another person to have an emotional need met.
It doesn't make sense to me.
Like if it's like a male thing and it's like, I can't really relate to you on that, you got to go to your buddy or your dad or your mom, like totally makes sense.
But on like a more relationship lovey-dovey part, I'm like, why are you going to them?
Just don't get it.
That's how I feel.
I feel like you won't really need like a female perspective for something like that.
Like I wouldn't go to like a female friend and be like, oh, like, like, what's going on with this?
You know what I mean?
I don't think really that that's appropriate.
Like, if I really need to talk to somebody or something, like, I'll talk to a good friend, like, Chase, or something like that.
Like, if there's something where, like, I need to address this with like the woman that I'm with, I'm just going to talk to the woman that I'm with about that.
You know what I mean?
I don't feel like I need to reach out to another woman to be like, hey, what's going on here?
But you don't have any friends that just developed into best friends that were females?
Not like best friends.
I'd say like acquaintances, but I wouldn't call them up to hang out and have a beer or something.
No, I always, I always, in my life, ever since I was very little, have had a guy best friend.
every point in my life I always have at least one or two guy best friends so here's the thing about that is like what That's totally reasonable.
That's totally reasonable.
My girls that I've dated, they've had guy best friends for a long time.
And I'll admit, for me, there's definitely been some insecurity there because kind of like what Tanner's talking about, part of me is like, yo, why do you need to go to this other guy for emotional intimacy when you could come to me?
But I also get it.
Like we've just been friends for so long.
We just developed into best friends.
It's not anything weird there.
It's just we are best friends.
Totally.
The question I have is how many of those dudes would bang you if given the chance?
Like most guy best friends, I think, would totally smash the girl if they weren't in the friend zone.
Do you think so?
100%.
99.9% of the time.
I actually don't feel that way.
We can test it out.
Do any of you have a guy friend, guy best friend?
Yeah.
I absolutely don't.
No male friends.
No.
I say I have a male acquaintance.
Can you text them right now and say, WYD, what you doing?
Do you want to hook up?
Sure.
Oh, my God.
But what do you think?
Do it.
Let's go.
We're going to do it.
Let's do this.
This is so funny.
I'll do it right now.
Chris, Chris.
Chris.
Chrissy, Chris.
A brief intermission.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
Damn, y'all drink.
Right now.
Y'all drank too much beer.
Jane, can we actually have you move back real quick?
We're going to have, just momentarily, we have to do a quick reaction.
Okay.
Jane, can we just have you move back over there and we'll have her come back?
Sorry.
So what do you want me to say?
Guys, let's brainstorm.
So what is the most succinct?
Sus?
Succinct.
a succinct thing that you could say that would have the highest chance of succeeding.
Something like, hey, if it's.
If it's too obvious, like, you'll give it away.
So confused.
What's going on?
They said that, like, you can't have a guy best friend because he just wants to fuck.
No, that's not what we said.
That's not what we said.
We said most guy best friends.
So I'm going to text my guy best friend.
I'm going to let them pick the message and see what he says.
You have to craft it properly, though.
Oh, yeah.
We should ask the audience.
We should have to do it.
You guys have the audience.
I wanted, but she has to leave, so we need to get this video going.
But I want Tanner.
What's that?
We'll come back to the text thing.
Let's play the video.
Well, yeah, but we need Tanner here.
We should ask the audience.
Sweet chat is awesome.
Audience, you guys, what do you think she should ask her guy best friend so that it doesn't give it away and they think that she's actually genuine?
How should she craft the text?
You guys should tell us.
Okay, okay, Tanner's back.
We can play the video.
Okay, so Chris, play, let's see.
Let me think which one.
Oh, God.
Put it.
Maybe take it off the list.
Go to Twitch really quick.
No, go to Twitch.
Go to Twitch.
Okay, cool.
So let's see here.
Play the...
Hmm.
Play the Tate body count one.
Let's do the body count one.
Nope.
He talks like he has a speech impact.
No, Chris, you need to reveal it.
I think he has a speech impediment.
I can't wait.
Okay, guys, we're going to play it.
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
I don't actually think it's that.
I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you meet a woman, you get married, you be together, whatever.
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
How many men have fun?
If I got a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
Like, well, my last man cheat.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, I don't care.
Like, why is that my problem?
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
They've had more fucking rides, more spins.
I don't want that shit.
When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
And also, no, but no, but the truth is, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall.
She's unattractive, too.
And it's unattractive, isn't it?
But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
Or she wouldn't think, you know, like he talked to me, Rudolph's go get a new guy.
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you, be a better partner.
The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
You know what?
This is the guy I.
I like him.
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
Women fall in love with the person who loses a virginity too, or their second or third guy.
They really remember them.
They really love them.
They're not any woman who slept with 52.
She doesn't even remember who most of them are.
She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
She's more likely to just think no, what new answers?
New dating.
That's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
Let me make something clear.
If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
That's pretty fucking old.
Yeah 30, crazy.
There's been times I was drunk, okay.
So uh, we're just gonna, really quick, just have you guys give your reaction to that, go ahead.
Um, I think he's actually so disgusting and but I don't give a fuck because, like that's not the type of man that i'm trying to go for yeah, and I would never, ever date someone like that.
So I don't even care what he thinks like I don't care.
Give wait, more thoughts.
We need a bit more thoughts on on that from you 100, where i'm at literally, like I just like it like disgusts me to hear his voice and the things that he says, like he's almost like pedophilic in a way, and everything and like the whole.
Like I don't know, that's just me, that's just me, but he is going for younger, younger women because of that and like it just doesn't.
Like I don't know it is.
How is he pedophilic?
Wait wait, let her, let her finish.
He has talked about like multiple occasions how he goes for like 18 year old woman he's an old, he's an older man like run through less and everything, and I don't know, I don't know, i'm let's let the girls give their take and then we'll come in.
But I let, just to be clear.
I think we shouldn't even use that word on youtube.
But he is talking about adult.
Just to clarify, he is talking about adult women.
But uh, really quick, let's uh continue on here.
Uh, so what's your take on the video?
Well, he's just really stupid.
Like, he just talks like a really stupid person, and usually I don't even react to really stupid people, i'm just like oh, all right, moving on with my life, no time to waste.
But for the purpose of this exercise, I would just be like he's really insecure, like probably has a really small dick, but some guys, the small dicks are super fucking confident and awesome and cool.
So yeah, it's just let's not.
Let's not penis size shame here.
Let's not.
Shame what do you mean?
He's shaming women, age and whatever.
No no no, shame him as much as you want let's, let's be nice to the gentleman with small penises here.
He's just very insecure.
He's like oh if like, this girl has slept with 30 men, then who am I to them?
I'm like, oh wow, so you must not be very good in bed.
Then right, what?
If he's fantastic in bed, then why would he care?
Right wait, why would he say like oh, like there's been 30 guys, therefore she wouldn't love me anymore.
I'm like, all right, so you can't only go up against five, not 30 right, all right?
He literally said like well, something's gonna go wrong and she's going to To just see yourself out and find somebody better.
Like, 100%, she's going to see herself out and find somebody better.
That's just, he wants girls who don't know that there's a way out.
He wants girls that don't know that there are people that are going to respect them and treat them well.
That's how I was at 18 and 19, too.
I thought that the guy that I was going to be with the rest of my life was this motherfucker who absolutely treated me like shit.
Like, I thought that was it for me.
And, you know, luckily I figured out that it wasn't, you know?
So it's like, that's very true.
When you're that age, you think that that's all that there is.
You have a very, very small view of guys in the world.
And like, that's absolutely terrible that he wants somebody that doesn't understand that you could be treated better.
Alex, did you have something else you wanted to add there?
It looked like maybe you wanted to.
No, I was just saying facts.
So I did see like that video of him talking about how he could like imprint like a younger woman and everything.
And it is like he is trying to take advantage of younger women that don't know better.
And every girl can, every single girl can definitely admit that when we're 18 and 19, we don't know.
We don't know a good relationship yet.
Like we will not.
Unless you're very, very lucky and you get one that that age, but a lot of people don't.
Like I did not get a good relationship until I was like 23.
So it's like.
But so just really quick here, do you think that he's wrong for wanting to or having the preference of dating younger women?
I don't think that that exact preference is wrong, but I think that his motivation of them staying with him because they will stay with him for no matter how he treats them.
I think that is wrong.
I don't think that's what he's saying.
I think he's saying he doesn't want to be a good person.
That's exactly what he said.
I think he's saying he doesn't want women with a ton of baggage.
He said, he said exactly, if things go wrong, she'll gonna leave me for somebody else.
If things are hard, she's gonna leave me for somebody else.
If things are that wrong, where you feel like you need to leave, I feel like every person in a relationship, whether that guy or a woman, should want, should feel like they can leave and feel like if it's bad enough to where you want to leave, you should be able to leave.
That's fair.
But couldn't it be that someone that's been with 50 people, they're just so quick to just move on.
So he wants someone that's going to be more invested in that.
I don't think that that's true.
You were saying that earlier in the conversation.
You were literally saying that.
It's easier to move on if I'm being treated like shit.
If I'm being treated so badly to where it's hurting my mental health and where it's not healthy for me to be in the relationship, I feel more confident in myself now because I know how to be treated well and I know what good relationships look like.
I've left relationships not because they were bad, just because it was time for me to leave.
It wasn't right for me in other parts of my life, but I know how to be treated well.
I know that some relationships that I've been in, they've treated me great.
There were other reasons why it needed to end.
So like I've learned how to be treated well and I've noticed different ways where I can be treated well.
I'm not going to stay with somebody who's treating me badly because I think that's my only option.
When I was 18, 19, 20, I thought that was my only option.
So I've learned from being in different relationships what it's like to be treated well.
Okay, really.
That's a good point.
Really quick, we're going to get to you, Jane.
Just really quick, what is your kind of first impression or just your thoughts, not necessarily on what he just said, but just your thoughts on him?
Disgusting.
Can you say that again when the camera's on here?
Disgusting.
Stupid.
I just think that it's just predatory.
It is.
It's predatory.
I'm not saying to like younger people.
I'm just saying to people who don't have experience.
It's definitely dangerous.
So here's how I feel.
I feel like what he's trying to say is the reason he likes to go for younger women is one, they have less baggage.
Two, they have this innocence about them.
But I. Actually, Jane, why don't we just move you over here now?
Okay.
Sorry.
It's fine.
Bye.
I'm just going to get up with water here now.
Okay.
Sorry.
I'm going to go.
No, you're good.
Good.
But where I'm trying to go with this is that a good man would support a younger girl, right?
Not just financially, but emotionally and lead her well.
That's technically what you would want in a relationship, right?
If you're going towards a biblical setting.
If you're non-religious, then how you feel you want to be led is completely different.
That is what you would ideally want.
He does happen to say some semi-abusive things sometimes about women.
I don't support those.
I think what he's trying to say is an old-school method of I would rather date a younger woman and support them and give them like that care and that mental strength and you know help them grow into this bright young person who are whoever they're going to be.
But in this instances, how he talks about telling women to send him money, how he says like he can fuck anyone he wants and he can treat women however he feels.
That's abusive, that's wrong, and that's toxic.
That is not a loving man.
That's not a leading man.
That's not somebody I'd want to be with.
You know, and that's passive.
Have you seen some of his other clips?
Oh, I've seen a lot of them, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because when I first watched him, I watched like a reel or something on TikTok and I was like, oh, yeah, this guy's cool.
And then I really watched this shit and I was like, no.
Yeah, this is not what I envision for a very, you know, hyper-masculine alpha male.
I just feel like a real alpha male is someone that's going to lead a woman and support them and let them grow, not abuse them and make them feel like they're just a piece of ass, which is basically what society tries to do to us.
It's facts.
That's how I feel about that.
We're going to have Brandon give his take.
On repeat one more time, question.
Oh, just your reaction to the video we just watched.
You know, the guy's obviously found a pocket where he can voice certain things either calmly or boisterously, and people are going to listen and chime in.
For the most part, he's playing to the ear of men.
You know, a lot of guys are going to hear what he has to say, and if they don't agree with it, they're going to sound kind of maybe soft or a little, you know, sheltered.
So, you know, for the sake of being a guy, they're going to agree with what he says.
He does well on YouTube, and he's all about getting a reaction.
And that's just about all I hear as far as the substance coming from that man is he wants a reaction and he's touching on issues that are sensitive and he's saying some things that are true, but to kind of generally just cast that as this is what it is, black and white, like, nah, man, he's just getting a reaction and people are reacting to it, and he's doing his job on YouTube.
I couldn't have said it better.
Like, for me personally, I date kind of like younger women a few years younger than me, just like my preference.
I guess it would come with slightly less baggage, but I do think that a lot I don't, I've never watched a lot of Andrew Titz, like, you know, like Donald watches videos or anything like that.
It's like very small clips, but I think it's just a social media algorithm.
I mean, I'm sure you'd know that, Brian.
Like, the more out there that you are, he's for sure intentionally being controversial.
100%.
But I think he does believe what he says, but he's obviously hamming it up a bit for the controversy for attention, you know?
So, yeah, definitely.
His content is going to really spike a queue with younger men that want to get out there and get after him and whatnot.
I think he's very funny.
It's funny.
I like it.
Yeah, I don't agree.
You're unfiltered.
I don't agree with everything that he says, but he's for sure funny.
I do agree with him on.
Look at the mouth.
Okay.
What?
I agree with him on some shit.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I'll say this.
There's actually a lot of fun.
How would you admit that?
I'll say this right now to back Brian up.
There's a lot of things that I agree with that he says.
I mean, they're just like, I will also say, I mean, I will also say, like the girl will cook and clean or whatever.
I'm chill with that.
But like, so much into the microphone, please.
I said, I mean, like, what do you agree with?
Like, the girl that will cook and clean?
Because I'm like, I'm chill with that.
But like everything else that he said about the baggage and the young woman and all that shit, what do you mean?
He was 100%.
Well, let me ask you guys a question real quick.
It's okay.
Wait, I'm not saying that.
I want to hear what he's going to say.
Let me just ask a quick clarifying question.
So who do you think is more jaded?
Someone who has less sexual and relationship experience or someone who's had more relationship and sexual experience?
I'm going to respect the person who has more relationship experience because they know what they want and like they've been through it.
They're not.
I've dated guys who haven't had very many relationships and like less connections and they're just so lost.
Like they don't know what they even think or what they want for the future.
But do you want the man to lead?
I don't know.
Because I think men.
No, I don't really care about that.
I am fine with leading.
Like I'm good with leading.
You'll lead?
You'll lead?
Yeah.
In the bedroom?
You want to, though?
Yeah.
In any sense of the way, I will lead.
Absolutely.
Anybody that knows me knows that.
So would you get with the guy who's a virgin?
I guess it wouldn't be like a deal breaker, but I don't see myself talking to anybody that's like that because we don't have the same social circles and ideals.
I feel like that would be a little bit weird.
I'm 27.
Like, I feel like I wouldn't meet a guy who's 27 and is a virgin, especially the people that I know, the social circles that I'm in.
Nobody's really like that at this point.
So probably not, but not because that's like a huge deal breaker for me.
What about just a guy who's sexually inexperienced and you had to basically?
I mean, I've dated like somebody who is kind of a little bit like that.
And it just like doesn't really work in the long term for what I'm looking for.
Okay.
Okay.
Sorry, you want to come in here, Chase?
Yeah, I just, I want to make my point.
Like, have you guys ever heard of the term alpha-widowed?
No.
That's some red pill shit that it is.
I don't think anyone's going to know unless they're familiar.
All right.
So basically, this is the idea that one of the things Tate said in that clip is that a guy can leave an imprint on a woman, right?
Do you guys kind of know what he means by that?
What did you say?
What was it?
That's what I hate about that video.
Yeah.
It's true, though.
This is the thing.
Okay, what did he say?
So I'll explain it to you.
So like, if a girl ends up with a guy who she really loves and like he's like the best she's ever had and you know he gives it to her really good in the bedroom and like she looks up to him so much, like I don't know if you guys have been deeply in love with a man who you really respect yeah, say similar with I know that Alex has too okay, so say, say you're with a guy like that, like yeah yeah, okay.
So say, say you're with a guy like that, and then he breaks up with you or whatever it is.
Maybe he wants another woman, women very often.
They will almost never forget about that man and and it depends on the woman like maybe you guys haven't been quote unquote, imprinted in this way, but like I don't say this from a place of conceit like I've had, I've had exes where I know like after me they're going to be thinking of me when they're with their next.
Do you think that that's like specific to guys?
Like that happens to guys too.
It does, it does, it happens to everybody.
It's not gender, but I've I've, I've found I know a lot of dudes And I know a lot of women, it's extremely common among women, and it's not as common as it's like.
Extremely uncommon among like it's I know a lot of dudes who just doesn't happen to.
And my point, my point is, my point: when you have a girl that's getting closer to her 30s, like you said, a lot of girls have a lot of baggage and like they've got demands.
They're like, I want a man who's going to commit to me.
And they might have a lot of thoughts about their exes and stuff.
And maybe it's distorted the way that they look at relationships.
And it's different from a younger girl who hasn't had a ton of exes that have like affected her in that way.
Baggage is real.
I just feel like baggage is the same.
It's the same thing as men.
Is that not true?
Is kind of what we're talking about.
Is like the archetype of the 35-year-old wine-drinking dog mom.
You know what I mean?
That's just like, oh, like all women or all men are like this.
Like, everyone's like this.
And I need these standards.
And it's like, okay, like if every single dude that you've ever been with ever had a relationship with, like, they're 100% of the problem.
Like, they take zero accountability for all that.
It's like, come on.
I feel like too.
Yeah, did you wanted to come in with something right?
Yeah.
All I was just going to say is that for me, I have been out, I was in a relationship two and a half years ago, and I really love that person a lot.
And I have not been able to be in a loving relationship to that extent because I took away from what I had, right?
The good and the negative, right?
For both sides.
And I realized really quickly, I was like, you know what?
It's going to be really difficult for me to fully fall in love with someone again.
And that bag is just hard.
Because I've met what I'm talking about.
And I've met, and this is for everyone.
This is how I feel on both gender and whatever your sexual orientation is of them both.
You know what I mean?
I feel that it's very difficult because I have met guys that I've, you know, casually dated for like maybe two or three months, four months, and they're like, they want to be committed to me.
They want to fucking get an apartment together.
They want to get a dog together.
And I'm not present.
I'm not there.
I don't have that same amount of love that I had two and a half years ago.
Yeah.
And it's very hard because you get so invested in another person.
And, you know, I understand I went through that separation.
I understand that person's that person now and I'm who I am.
But I have to realize, like, I can cause issues to other people without realizing it.
And it's very frustrating, you know, sometimes.
So, yeah, 100%.
That's that's the really quick.
I'm wondering if we can all scoot over a bit so we can get Brandon in this shot now.
Brandon, are you?
Yeah, are you?
Can you try to just scoot over and we're going to see if we can get, are you able to just get in the bag?
Yeah, that's right.
Right, there works.
Right.
He's going to see the time stamp on this.
Yeah, that works.
So, can I say one thing to what she said a few minutes ago?
Yeah, yeah, go for it.
So, like, one thing I totally agree with you on is that Andrew Tate is not at all a good role model from a biblical sense.
Like, he definitely does.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, he's a Christian man.
Yeah, he's a man of God.
I'll believe he's a man of God.
Andrew Tate is a man of God.
I believe he's a man of God when he repents of his rampant fornication and when he actually conforms to a biblical sexual standard and when he actually conforms to the, like, tries to conform to the image of Christ.
Like, I don't think people who just call themselves Christians actually deserve that title sometimes.
But that's beside the point.
The point was, I don't think he's an example of biblical masculinity.
I think he does to what you two were saying.
I think he does take advantage of the fact that like younger women, like a guy in that position, if a guy's super powerful and he has like a lot of money and stuff, and like an 18-year-old girl ends up with him, really easy for her to get abused.
And like she's going to think, oh, he's the best I can get, so I have to put up with like verbal abuse or whatever it is.
That's totally legit.
I agree with that.
And that's wrong.
The thing I like about him is that he's spitting a lot of hard truths that people need to hear.
The thing I don't like about him is that there's young boys that are listening to the stuff that he's saying, and they're thinking, oh, this is 100% how I should treat women.
And I don't, you know, this whole conversation, I've been talking about the importance of marriage and stuff.
Like, I don't think he's contributing towards building healthy marriages.
No.
Is my point.
I agreed.
Okay.
By the way, I know that you guys were a big fan of Andrew Tate.
So we have two more clips if you guys want to watch them.
But before we potentially do that, we are going to do a couple super chats.
So we have Nanelli Gopar.
Brandon says, well, thank you for the $5.
Appreciate the support.
Brandon says that grown man talk, he needs to, oh, says that grown man talk, he needs to be a regular straight gem.
What does that even mean?
I think he's saying that he likes Brandon.
He should be a regular on the show.
So Brandon, if you want to show some love to our good friend Naleli Gopar.
Hey, thanks for that positive comment.
We appreciate it.
We have a $5 super chat from Christopher Jay Gannon Chase.
Keep killing it.
Love you, bro.
Thank you for the $5.
Appreciate it.
Chris, great to hear from you, brother.
Love you too.
Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
Put the mic back on.
All right, first and foremost, Mike.
I'm not a gangster or a Cholo.
I'm a straight metalhead.
Okay.
Only thing you're hearing coming out of my car is Motley Crew, Pantera, Metallica.
Wait, you're cutting off.
All that good stuff.
So take me out of the gangster Cholo role.
Scoot a bit more into the frame.
So Mike Davis, $5 super chat, put the mic back on.
Thanks for the $4.99.
I'm starting to like him.
Tell him next time he's in the pen.
I'll send him some funds.
Okay, I guess Mike Davis wants to put some money on the books, I guess.
Okay, Andrew Tate with the $2 super chat.
She belongs to the streets.
Okay, we're not sure who she, or Andrew Tate is referring to, but I believe Keith.
Wait, is it a fake?
It's a fake.
Yeah, okay.
No, I think that's the real Andrew Tate, ladies and gentlemen.
So, girls, do you want to say anything back to Andrew Tate here?
You should grab your hair.
Thank you on your head.
Okay.
saying he has all this money and he can't get a fucking what's the It's not a duvet.
What the hell?
A duvet.
A duvet.
A duvet is for your bed.
Sorry.
Hair plugs or whatever.
We know hair plugs.
Is that what it is?
No, it's not a tupe.
Yeah, toupee.
I said a duvet.
Toupe, yes.
Andrew Tate with the $2 super chat.
Thanks, Brian.
When are we hitting the strip club again?
tonight spearmint rhino uh you know like andrew tate andrew tate will be a guest on the podcast and you guys should definitely i would love to let's go Definitely be.
I would love to.
Definitely should come on.
He's going to take a speech class before he comes on.
Shots.
Andrew Tate?
I think he's very articulate.
Very eloquent.
Anyways, Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
This is what you get when you invite older girls on the bottom.
Older ones.
I'm 23, bro.
I am 23.
You guys keep saying older people.
I am 23.
I'm 23.
But yeah, this is what you get when you invite older girls.
Stuck in their ways, opinionated, and dating them sounds like it would be a therapy session.
I'm not wrong.
This is the first over here.
That's like smoky, complete facts.
Can we jump on each other?
I mean, I'm not going to act like a woman.
I just feel like stuck in their ways just means like more settled with who they are.
More confident in who you are.
That shouldn't be a bad thing.
Wait, what are your some, what are your, some of your English is my second language, guys.
What are some of your boundaries?
In regards to me by that.
What are their boundaries?
Oh, like, I don't know.
I expect like a certain type of energy.
I don't have sex like the first, like, usually like three times.
Wait, what?
What?
Wait, repeat that?
I don't have sex.
Like, usually the first three dates make it.
Oh, first three dates, fourth date.
When did you institute that rule?
Why did you do it before?
I'm stuck to it.
I'm stuck to it.
And I don't know.
I just expect to be treated like, I don't know, like someone that they respect and like care about my opinions and what I have to say.
Can I tell you something on that?
Sure.
Dudes have way more respect for a woman if she won't give it up on the first date.
So keep that in mind.
It's just like that's not something that we really care about.
It's not that we care about you.
I don't care about respecting you.
I care about it.
Because if you care about that, then you're not somebody that I'm interested in.
Like, I'm just being honest.
Like, any guy that cares about that, I'm very much not interested in that.
And that's fine.
And I hate it.
And that's okay.
That's okay if you care about it, but I'm just not interested in you.
I get where they're coming from, but for me personally, I will not sleep with a guy on the first date.
And if he tries to initiate it, I will not talk to them ever again.
Because I know all you want to do is just fuck me.
Yeah.
And that is not attractive.
Really?
That is not attractive to me at all.
Because I know that you want to, but be a little bit more discreet about it.
Try to get to know me a little more.
Try to ask him if you're not going to be able to do it.
Everybody has their preferences.
Wait, so if a guy, even if he does seem genuinely interested in you, but it happens to be the case that he makes a move to sleep with you on the first date, it's a wrap.
It's done.
It's done.
Really?
You think he's the coolest guy ever?
I don't care.
It's done.
Bullshit.
I don't believe you.
Wait, Chris, can you just Andrew Taylor?
I definitely believe her.
Chris, can you open the doors again?
Just get some hair going.
Everyone is roasting me for my body.
What'd you say, Alex?
I said, Everyone's roasting me for my body count.
What?
Guys, it's not 40, it's 39.
39.
Yeah.
Come on.
Getting around up.
Come on.
But, okay, we got one thing here really quick from Steven Stiffler.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
Okay.
Do you want?
A.
I think I look better in person than I do on camera, so don't try to fight me on that.
Okay.
Oh, I'm a 10, for sure.
You're a 10.
I'm a 10.
Okay.
You asked me to rate myself, so I'm going to put myself at a 10.
Okay.
I think that, like, when you're asking to rate somebody, right, you're looking at like a whole world view.
Like, you're looking at like what the average person wants everybody to look like.
Like, I know, like, most guys want somebody, want a girl who's going to be like small, like blonde hair, mostly, no tattoos, fit, all that.
Like, I go like dark hair all day.
Okay, that's you.
But, like, most of my guys, like, most of my friends that are guys, they like the, they like the blonde girl, they like the granola girls, like, they like the golden retriever girls, and like, that's fine.
Like, that's their preference.
That's fine.
Like, I definitely, like, I know that I make myself look a certain way that appeals to a certain group of people, you know what I mean?
So, if we're going out for like a whole just like average across the board, I'd say I'm like a seven and a half, eight.
But if we're going for like my type and what I'm trying to appeal to, I'd say I'm like a nine.
Like, the guys that I want, they think I'm a nine.
They think I'm a ten.
Okay, let me rephrase the question.
If you lined up a hundred men, what do you think they would?
Because you said, Jane, you said this is what I would give myself.
But if you lined up a hundred men, what would do you think they would reach you?
I think my average would probably be like, and this is complete honesty, maybe like a seven and a half, eight.
Yeah, I would say that for me, honestly.
Okay.
I'm being dead honest.
Okay.
Every guy I've ever found attractive that I've tried to pursue, I've never been rejected.
So maybe it's my personality that gets them.
I don't know if that's what it is, but I feel like, you know.
Wait, you've, hold on.
You've never been rejected.
From a guy?
No.
No.
I haven't.
I haven't.
I'm serious.
No, yeah.
I've never been rejected.
I mean, they weren't always the greatest guys, I would say, you know.
I really want to go into this one because this to me fucking blows my mind as a man.
What about you, Alex?
Have you ever been rejected by a guy?
Um, I mean, yeah, like I feel like it was like more subtle, but I feel like, um, yeah.
Okay, but so for Jane, you've never been rejected by a guy.
No, I really haven't.
You've never been rejected by a guy.
So let's expand this out into relationships.
Of the relationships you've been in, you've ended all of them.
No.
Okay, so when you say rejected, you mean like first initial.
That's fucking.
Yeah, like first initial, like trying to like talk to them or get to know them or really cook up with them.
Like, no.
You've never.
But I usually, like, I have only been broken up with like twice lads.
Twice.
Never.
Never.
These two, by the way, they've never been rejected.
Must be nice.
Okay.
Have you been rejected?
Absolutely.
Tanner?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Brandon.
Rejection is such a hard way to say it, but I've had some deal breakers.
Yeah.
That's cope, Doug.
Have you been rejected after advancing on a chick or not?
Deal breaker is like, uh, it didn't work out.
At the time being, probably, but there was a later story to tell more than likely.
Bruv.
That, honestly, that blows my mind.
Never, they've never been rejected.
I'm calling caps.
That blows my mind.
I'm calling caps.
You know what, though?
It is so much.
I mean, not for them.
I believe that.
Life is weird.
Really?
Like, I believe that.
Life is different for chicks.
Life is way different for chicken.
Men are in.
Most guys are, you guys are in the business of sometimes getting rejected.
Like, you guys are built up to where it's like, like, you're told by your buddies, like, what's the worst she's going to say?
No.
For us, like, if we were to walk up to a dude, like, we are going to, like, stand there and like, look at him come across from the bottom.
Yeah, like, we're not going to go for anybody who's super not into it.
Like, we're going to go off of like cues first to make sure they like us before we talk to them.
But we get to use that to our advantage for sure.
Because most guys, you know.
Here's the thing, though.
For chicks, like, it's different.
Like, you guys, what we do as men, like, we'll go up to them and be like, hey, like, I think you're attractive.
Can I get your number?
Chicks, like, you guys, like, you kind of like look at the guy, like, throw your hair over your shoulder.
Like, I've been asked out by girls, like, twice.
That's it.
The rest of the time, it's girls, like, hey.
I've only asked a guy out maybe like three times.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would, I don't really like asking guys out.
I just feel way too masculine and I don't like that energy I'm giving off and I'm like, eh, I don't want to do that.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't like being asked out.
It's like a weird feeling for me.
I wouldn't mind.
I feel like you're in a better.
It's okay.
It's an ego ghost.
You're in a stronger negotiating position, let's just say.
If they're coming to you, like for a business deal, like for a sponsorship or something, if they're coming to you, you're in a stronger position than if you're going to them.
You can dictate terms a bit better.
Yeah, I will say I like when women pursue me, but I don't like when they straight up ask me out.
Like I don't like having to like reject a girl, but I do like when they pursue me for sure.
I invite it, but it just doesn't really happen.
So de facto, I have to be the one.
Bro, we're going to find you your 411 beef curtain queen, bro.
DMs are open.
That is a woman of God that asks you out.
You got to specify that.
A straight up refrigerator sent from God.
Bring it.
Bring it.
But that's really shocking to hear, though, that you two have not been rejected.
It's because they're not asking dudes out.
I ask, like, if I want to go out with somebody, I'll ask them out.
No, but even, like, even I agree with you that it's rare for a woman to initiate, but even when they do initiate, bro, they got a pretty fucking good conversion, right?
Like, it's true.
Their success rate's very good.
Yeah.
So.
Most dudes won't reject an advanced person.
Bro, I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say it.
Y'all got the, y'all, y'all got dating on recruit mode.
Which I've y'all got dating on recruit mode.
This shit's easy for y'all.
Easy.
Well, we can go around the table on this.
And Brandon, I do remember we will get to you, you want to talk about body count, right?
But do you guys think that dating is easier for men or for women?
For guys, honestly.
Let's start with Alex.
I don't think it's easier for any either of them.
I can't even like, I feel like it's just hard.
Yeah.
But you just heard two girls here say they've never been rejected.
And I can say for me, I've probably been rejected thousands of times.
Thousands.
That's a lot of times, bro.
Bro, I'm on those dating apps.
I feel like there's just more hot girls than there is hot men in general.
That's like a thing.
That's true.
That's true.
So there's a lack of hot guys.
So there's so many hot girls like or do women have unreasonable expectations of men.
You said there's more hot women.
I think it's unreasonable.
I don't think it's unreasonable.
I think women want champions and dudes want hot women and champions are extremely rare.
Like women want like very confident dudes who have like good energy and stuff.
And a lot of dudes have like anxiety, insecurities.
There's very few like what's the statistic?
Like most women rate like 10% of men as above average looking or something like that.
It's something crazy.
That sounds about right for me.
Yeah, well they did they did studies on the dating apps and you know men rated women on a bell curve in terms of attractiveness and they I think women found 80% of the men ranked them as unattractive.
So the top 20% of men they deemed attractive.
That sucks.
And I think it might have been lower, but I mean.
So it's obviously way harder for men, I think.
Exactly.
For sure.
The average woman versus the average man, like top-tier guys do fine, but average men are fucked.
Dude, the average man, you'll find maybe a handful of girls that want to have sex with him.
The average girl, you'll find thousands of dudes that want to have sex with her.
There's definitely a small percentage of men that like take up the vast majority of women for sure.
Definitely, definitely.
But you guys basically just said that in itself.
There's a vast amount of men that will just have sex with her, though.
There's not a whole plethora of men like me.
That's just a basic menu.
But if you want to have like a relationship, like if that's what you're looking for, like some people, if they just want to, you know.
You could say the same thing.
Yeah, but that's why I feel like it's a little bit more difficult for women because we have to almost fish through.
If you want a relationship, we have to fish through all these guys that I may not get rejected, but I have to fish through all these guys that all they want to do is screw me and they really don't care about me.
That's fair.
And that's really difficult to go through.
That is one of the difficulties that women face is there's guys that will not have any interest in you for a long-term relationship, but they'll have sex with you.
Yeah.
That caveat to that, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
But there are also, for every dude that just wants to have sex with a girl, there's also going to be, there's going to be, if you pick any average girl, there's going to be thousands of dudes that would love to be in a relationship with her.
And almost all of them, that girl is going to find undesirable.
A lot of men will just take what they can get.
And like, that's that.
Yeah.
Almost all of them.
It's the 80-20 thing or like the 90-10 thing.
Like a girl is going to find 90% of those dudes unattractive and they're not going to want them.
I bet right now, if you went through your phone contacts, there's like probably at least a few dozen dudes that would love to be in a relationship with you.
You're just not interested.
They're in the friend zone.
Yeah, they're in the friend zone.
The men who would be dutiful, loyal, loving boyfriends are probably in the friend zone.
Just saying.
Yep.
Just saying.
Yep.
But wait, did you guys, on the topic of your phones, did you guys get text back from your you didn't tell me what to say?
Oh, you guys never did.
Oh, shoot.
Okay.
I requested it from the audience.
I don't know if anybody ever responded.
Wow.
Wait, what were we going around on before?
I don't remember.
Is dating easier for men or women?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what we were going on.
Brandon, do you want to come in on this?
We were talking age gap last time?
Do you want to come in on the age gap?
Sure.
Just into the microphone.
So I think it was last show there was some people commenting on age gap.
I'm 40, just turned 40.
Not my last girlfriend, but the one before that was 19.
You know, and it really was a communication based off of just connection.
You know, we just got along great.
I mean, I've had a girl that was four or five years younger than me, and the maturity level was just on a whole different plateau.
You know, I mean, yeah, you can say, well, you know, this now, she's been out of high school for a year.
This girl was smart, knew where she wanted to go in life, knew what she liked, knew what she was into, what she wasn't into.
The girl that I dated before that, that was 34, 35, couldn't tell her head from her ass.
You know what I'm saying?
There was just some things we had in common.
It was great.
Relationship went forward.
So when people get into the whole, the age is just a number.
When it's convenient for them to say it, yeah.
But in all actuality, do people really, really feel that way?
You know what I'm saying?
You go on seeking arrangements.
I mean, I got female roommates and whatnot.
I know all about seeking arrangements.
And you see the age gap, 18 to 60.
Some of these girls are on there like, you know, hey, I'll take a sugar daddy.
And if it entails this and it entails that, who am I or the next man is to hate on that?
You know what I'm saying?
But I've met a lot of guys that will comment on that, like, oh, she's a hoe.
She's this, this, and that.
And, you know, and for me personally, bro, like, you know, don't knock the next person's hustle and don't knock the next person's preference.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's being fair.
To pick a corner and shoot arrows at other people for what they see is true or what they see is comfortable.
Like, you're either a hater or you're just immature.
You just don't know your shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, there was a couple comments on the last show that people were saying stuff and it kind of rubbed me wrong.
Like, wait a minute.
Like, you're either one or the other.
You're either hating or you just don't, you're just not that mature or comfortable or confident with yourself or whatever relationships you had been in before, you know?
Got it.
Got it.
Can I ask both of you a question from what he just said?
Sure.
If you found a girl and she had had, let's say she's 20 and she had a 60-year-old sugar daddy that she was with for a while, would that make her more datable to you guys or less dateable?
Absolutely less datable.
Wait, sorry, repeat it one more time.
Let's say you find some 20-year-old girl and you find out that for a while she had a 60-year-old sugar daddy that she was banging.
Would that make her more or less datable to you?
Certainly not more.
Right.
Would it impact her datability?
I think so.
Because I do think that someone who is in an arrangement of that type, it does say something a bit about, it's kind of like you're selling your body, in my opinion.
A little bit.
It's just a bit of a prostitution, basically.
It is.
Wait, what's wrong with prostitution?
That's disgusting.
It's gross.
I mean, from like marriage and datability perspective, that's like disgusting.
Yeah, that's prerogative, but I would never date a woman that did that.
Tell me all about it, girl.
How did it go down?
What did he give you?
What did he, whatever, whatnot?
I mean, that's real life shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I'm not trying to promote it, saying, yeah, the girl that goes for that is the one that, yeah, but you can't 2022, gentlemen.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, we can stay primitive with a lot of our core values, and that will give us a certain, but nobody wants to stay together nowadays.
Everyone gets involved in a relationship.
It's all this, this, and that.
And you break away from it, and they want to go experience that.
They want to go experience that.
I'd rather get with somebody who's played around in all them pools, less scared as possible, of course, but knows what they want, knows what they don't want.
So when they come to the table in a relationship with me, it's on something of real.
It's real.
You know what I'm saying?
They're not faking something or I did this or did that and they're trying to impress me with it.
No, I was in a relationship with this dude.
He took me here.
We did this.
We did that.
And it was what it was.
And oh, by the way, he was 58 or he was 19 or whatever.
I mean, it's all based on experience and personal preference.
You can't discount people because they're sexually liberated.
You can't discount people because they've identified themselves and feel comfortable with who they are based on their experiences.
I mean, that's what makes people people is experiences.
You say 2022 get with the times.
I say, folks, this is the decline of the West right here.
Well, so.
Yup, 100%.
But I think it's okay.
We can just disagree on that.
Not everybody can have a fresh, just got out of one relationship two-year-old.
Like those women, like, they're not.
They're not fresh because they're banging 60.
And I promise you, when you're 39, 45, living with these women, they're going to be so unhappy.
Like, they're going to be so unhappy.
Wait, what do you mean?
Who's going to be unhappy?
Everybody in the relationship.
The women and you.
You're going to be so unhappy.
They're going to feel so jaded.
They're going to feel so jaded and feel like that things have been, that life has been taken from them.
Wait, just one clarifying question.
You said they, who is they?
The women who have had less sexual experience?
I believe that's 100% like.
There's so many happy marriages out there.
Okay.
I just don't see that.
You said the divorce rate was 50%.
You said the divorce rate was 50% of the marriage.
But the other 50% are in happy marriage.
But you don't know that.
You don't know that.
You don't know what 50% of the people are.
You don't know which 50% are in those relationships.
They've done studies.
The higher the body count, the more they are likely to report.
Hold on, let me finish.
Let me finish.
The more they are likely to report relationship dissatisfaction, the higher likelihood of infidelity and the more likely the breakup of the relationship or the breakup of the marriage.
Okay.
I think that there's so much more.
There is so much more to that, though, than just the body count and all of that.
There's so much more leading into that.
But it's a big factor.
Okay.
That's your opinion.
That is a big factor.
Like, that is your opinion.
That's a big factor.
It's just all your opinions.
Like, you guys are all very unified in your thought process.
And that's fine.
If we had a girl on the panel, if we had a conservative girl on the panel, she would 100% agree with us.
I feel like she's Christian.
Like, she's kind of conservative, right?
Like, like pretty sexually liberated.
She's like, oh, she needs to think exactly like me.
I'm actually.
I'm not saying she needs to think exactly.
I'm not even conservative, though.
I'm like center-centered.
I'm just saying, like, there is room for disagreement on this.
And I have not bashed you guys on your thoughts at all.
And I have not bashed you guys on what you think.
So I don't judging a bash.
You can bash.
Oh, no, we're not bashing.
I'm not bashing you.
I don't think that that is the only thing that leads into that divorce rate.
There's so, so many other things that are going to lead into that.
For sure.
The fact that women are more liberated nowadays, the fact that women have more rights, the fact that, like, we just got the right to vote 100 years ago.
Like, we need to all think about that.
Like, women have never been allowed to have the right to vote until 100 years ago.
Like, there's no.
What does that have to do with marital satisfaction, though?
That has to do with the fact of women having their own train of thought and their own rights, their own way of thinking.
Like, they haven't even been their own person.
I think everyone here would say that of those here that say that body count matters.
We don't want someone who's promiscuous.
None of us are saying, like, women are free to do whatever.
They can do what they want.
But as far as what we want in a partner, we don't want a woman who is promiscuous.
If you want to get run through by 100 guys, go for it.
Go for it.
Go have fun.
Go do it.
We're not saying you cannot do it.
You are free to do it.
No, I get it.
But we do think that it has an impact on relationships.
And for us, it's a preference for us.
We do not want to date the town bicycle.
We do not want to marry the town bicycle.
The way that you're saying it is disrespectful.
I get run through by 100 guys if you want like a bad guy.
I disrespect that.
I don't respect that.
Okay, can I say, I just want to talk for like a quick second.
That's my only thing.
I don't like people making assumptions on what I am and what I'm not.
So I appreciate if you didn't do that.
Wait, other thing, that's fine.
He's a good person.
No, I think it was throwing it at me.
He gets it.
He understands.
We're fine.
We're good.
All I'm saying is my only qualm that I do have with the sexual promiscuity thing, right?
My mom had me out of wedlock, and that caused her a lot of issues.
Yeah.
Right.
Mine too.
So I understand where you're coming from with that point because it's very difficult to find someone that is willing to love you and accept you with all of this extra shit.
And it can be really hard and it can be really stressful.
Thankfully, my mom ended up finding someone that loves her unconditionally and stepped into the role of being my father and gave me so much love and gave me so much support.
But the fact that, you know, my mom made certain decisions, it was very difficult for me growing up without, you know, a father figure for a while.
So I get the repercussions kind of coming through with things.
But in the same retrospect, like, I think that's why I strongly disagree with you on why you want to just completely eliminate somebody in regards to their high body count.
But that's your own personal opinion.
And I can't really be upset with you because that's you, you.
That's you, and that's me.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So like, that's the only qualm I have with it is like, I understand the damage that it causes because I grew up with it and I had it and I get it, you know?
So that's the only thing I ever will say to that.
But in regards, if you want to, you know, fuck a bunch of people and that makes you feel good and sexually liberated, as long as you ain't hurting nobody and you ain't killing no one, I don't give a shit.
You know what I mean?
That's just kind of how I feel about it.
That's just all I had to say about that.
Point taken.
Thank you for expressing yourself.
Thank you.
Alex, I think you wanted to come in with something.
No.
Talking about it.
They just reminded me that you said town bicycle.
Town bicycle.
That's disrespectful.
Just like.
So funny, though.
That's so funny.
How's that?
So funny.
I mean, it's kind of funny.
It's so funny, dude.
Everybody's ridden her.
She's all women.
Town bicycle.
Nobody wants the town bicycle.
Nobody wants a town bicycle.
I want a new bicycle.
I don't want a bicycle that's going to be a good one.
Wait, town can be a bad thing.
I just want to clarify.
I want to clarify one thing.
A man can be a town bicycle, too.
I just like my preference, I don't care.
Like, the guys that I do not care about.
I really don't.
Like, one of my best friends, like, he has sex with fucking everybody.
Like, he's great.
I think most women don't care.
He does.
I promise you, like, the women that he gets with, like, they do not care.
I think most women don't care.
Exactly.
So it's like, we don't talk shit like that about guys.
Like, it just like.
But it's different.
It's not different.
It's different.
It's a double standard.
It's a double standard.
Let me ask you all a question.
How tall are all of you really quick?
Height?
What's your height?
I'm 5'7.
Do you want to date a guy that's your height or taller?
It doesn't matter.
You date a guy who's 5'2 ⁇ .
The last guy I dated was shorter than me.
Okay, Alex, what about you?
Generally speaking, do you want to date a guy who's your height or taller?
Way taller.
Okay, and what about size?
Would you want to date a guy who's physically larger than you?
I mean, yeah, for the most part, but not like muscular.
Okay, but she's like 100 pounds.
She's genuinely like 100 pounds.
Right, but let's say there's a guy that is smaller than her.
Well, if they're taller, they're probably going to be like a little bit bigger than me.
Jane, would you date a guy who's shorter than you or smaller in stature?
I want a guy who is physically fit and who is taller than me.
I would like to have D1 babies at some point.
So that is an asymmetry in what men and women find attractive.
Men don't give a fuck about a girl's height.
Some, like, some guys care, but most men care.
I do.
I do.
You basically specify the height that you like.
Yeah, you did.
You all like it.
You all specified my head.
All of you specified.
Here's the thing, though.
Yeah, but you, because you want to.
You still have a preference, though.
I have a preference, but it would not, for me, for a lot of women, it's a deal breaker if the guy shorts.
I'm looking at the deal breaker.
It's a deal breaker.
It's a deal breaker.
We appreciate Brian saying most guys don't give a fuck.
I just want a button queen.
Hey, listen.
I'll date a woman who's 6'5.
I'll date a woman who's 4'9.
I don't give a fuck.
But that's like up for debate for you.
See, that's like a not up.
I don't want a woman who's 6'5.
Yeah.
I don't want a dude.
But that's what I'm saying.
There's an asymmetry in what men and women find attractive.
And one of the things that men value in women, whether you like it or not, men value sexual purity in women.
Generally speaking, broadly speaking, I know there's some guys who don't care, but most men, no guy is going to be like, gee, I really wish my girlfriend had fucked more men before she met me.
No guy's going to think like that.
Nobody.
I mean, like, I've, I've.
Ashley wants dudes that have ran through women.
I literally, like, I want them to know what they want.
I want them to be experience.
Like, Ashley wants those dudes with a thousand body counts.
I don't care.
Like, I just want to.
So I forgot, see.
I'm gone.
Thank you.
It's just not a thing that matters to me.
Hey, Shrums, I just want you to know I'm reading the comment panel too.
Okay, we're going to do some super chats really quick, and then maybe we'll pick back up the body count discussion.
But we have a lot of super chats we got to get through.
Okay, so let's see here.
Brandon's ready for Mike to talk shit, dog.
Okay, I found it.
Women are shallow if they don't have relationships with short men.
I'm sorry.
I'm very shallow then.
Extremely.
I mean, it makes sense to me.
I'm so shallow.
God, you want a partner who's going to give you kids that are strong and who can fend for themselves.
And that's like a fine preference.
Like, that's fine.
You were D1.
Everybody's different.
I mean, that's my point.
It's just everybody's different.
Okay.
So, super chats here, guys.
Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
Thank you for the support.
Much appreciated.
Joel All.
Sorry, Joel Olstein Wannabe likes the sound of his voice too much.
Tell him to switch places with Brandon or join the Asian girl.
I don't know what that is.
Shots fired.
Shots fired.
It doesn't make any sense.
Oh, Mike, Mike, just so you know, I love the sound of my voice.
Thank you, Mike Davis, for the, oh, okay, we got another.
Yeah, we're spending money.
Mike Davis with the $5 super chat.
Thank you, man.
Not being rejected talks more to desperation of men than their value.
Also, men entertain.
Also, men entertain a sea creature for a hit and run, but won't wife them up.
Base.
Shakespeare in the flesh.
Mike Davis, thank you very much for the $5 super chat.
We'll get to it.
Anthony Davis.
Which one?
Which one?
The D1.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on.
We'll highlight that one really quick.
Bro, Mike Davis's last comment.
I know.
I feel like Jane hit up the whole D1 too.
Okay.
In my defense, they all hit me up.
I didn't do anything.
And then we got California Dreaming.
Brandon is hot.
We got to give it to him.
Anything you want to say, Brandon?
Two thumbs up, baby.
Okay, there we go.
Back to super chats here, real quick.
Wait.
Okay, I think Anthony Lopez, $5 Super Chat.
Anthony, thank you very much for the support.
Is music taste that doesn't line up with yours a deal breaker?
Really quick yes or no on this one.
So is music taste a deal breaker?
No.
No.
Usually no.
Brandon.
We know you're a metalhead, so.
Kind of.
I can't.
I could tolerate some country, but not too many.
Yeah, true.
If they like country, I'm not into it.
Right on.
Yeah, fuck that.
Good for you.
Yeah.
Not a deal breaker.
Jason?
Yeah, not a deal breaker.
I don't really care.
She's got to fuck with Pearl Gem, though.
That's all I'm going to say.
Okay.
I'll say this too.
When we're in my car, we're listening to what I want.
Jesus Christ.
I don't know if I can pull this one up.
Dude, you got to read Mike Davis's latest comment.
It's so funny.
Imagine actually that.
I mean, do I pull it up?
I don't know.
Okay, we'll address it.
I'm not going to say the, was thrown out and not one guy had the balls to shut her up.
Imagine actually dating these girls.
They will destroy you with false claims.
That's facts.
We did.
That's facts.
I think we did challenge them.
I never addressed that, but I did want to.
You did.
I think we did.
I thought we did address it.
You did.
I think I did address it.
Maybe I should have been a better person.
I addressed it too, and I said it was more like predatory other than pedophilia.
Okay, let's not.
Don't say the word.
Don't say the word.
It could be predatory, but.
Okay, next.
NDN Bala with the $4 sorry, $5 super chat.
Honest thoughts on guys with no IG.
Would a group of girls disapprove for their friend?
No way to DM slash IG stock, show picks to friends, et cetera, disadvantage.
Okay, great formatting on that question.
Thank you.
Yeah, guys, just by the way, for the super chats, if you can, just proofread them a little bit beforehand, just so it's clear.
But thank you for the $5 super chat.
Much appreciated.
We'll go ahead.
Do you guys, if the guy doesn't have an IG, does it matter?
I think it's pretty hot when they don't have Instagram.
I love it.
I think it's great.
You love when they don't have one.
Oh, I love it.
100% love it.
I would love to get to a point in my life where I could be in a relationship with someone and we both don't have any social media at all.
Hell yeah.
So we could just kind of not even have to deal with any outside stuff.
Good answer.
Ashley?
Yeah, I think it's kind of hot too.
Okay.
Can we dig into that?
Why?
Is it because they're not famous?
Yeah, they're mysterious.
I don't look at what the star is.
Yeah, like, oh, my God, he has so much going on in his life.
He doesn't need fulfillment from strangers.
I just look at it like, that's mine.
Like, nobody's mine.
Nobody's sliding into those DMs.
And then it's like, it's nice because you don't, when you go out with your family and stuff like that and you have conversation, like they have no idea what's going on in your life.
And it's great.
And it's one less issue for outside interference.
And that's why I like it.
It's a great point.
Good times.
Okay, Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, Mike Davis, for the continued support here.
Mike Davis, I'm not gay, but I'd go gay for Brandon.
The way his tattoos are structured is divine.
His chains and earrings are angelic.
And his backwards hat looks godly.
Wow.
He's really talented up.
He's really chili.
Wow.
He went from, I'll beat your ass to.
Mr. Mike Davis, flattery will get you nowhere, sir.
Oh, shit.
Yo, I'm sensing some like sexual tension between Brandon and Mike Davis, dude.
Just tension.
Jesus.
Whatever you say.
Nothing sexual.
Whatever you say, Brandon.
Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 super chat.
So, okay.
Since it's such a heated discussion, yeah, we don't want to date promiscuous women.
I feel like we've already gone through this.
You guys are good on that one?
Yeah, I feel like we've gone through that.
We've already said all of our pieces on that, you know?
Yeah.
See, this is what's interesting to me is that, so any time men are not allowed to have preferences.
I just don't think that's preferences.
Men are not allowed to do that.
Look at the visceral reaction from you guys on the body count thing.
I don't think that you're not allowed to have it.
I just think that you guys wouldn't want to date us, and we're just saying that we wouldn't want to date you either.
Wait.
Oh, shit.
I think that's all we're saying.
Like, I think that's just all we're saying.
Like, you guys are saying, Dad's like, oh, I wouldn't date you guys because you don't have.
Well, how tall is Alex?
I'm 5'1.
Sorry, bro.
Sorry, bro.
That's just what I'm saying.
You're too tall, Alex.
You're too tall.
I'm sorry.
You're just too tall.
You're an Amazon woman.
I just can't do it.
I can't do it, Alex.
But I mean, I think because we're not saying that we wouldn't date guys that have that preference.
We're saying that you guys are allowed to have that preference.
And then you guys are.
By the way, I shouldn't have to say that.
You guys are saying, like, we don't respect that.
Well, it just sounds disrespectful because we're not giving those rude nicknames and rude things to you guys or guys that are like that.
Town bicycle.
That's like a very funny thing.
It's just not.
Like, it's just not funny and it's not okay.
Like, I just think that it's really, really rude.
And I think that you guys trying to be funny.
And like.
And it's worth it.
We're not into it either.
Like, you guys interrupt?
That's fine.
Like, we're not into you either.
What?
It's not.
We're not calling it.
It's not about.
I just want to be clear.
I have, I'm not, when I say town bicycle, you all are very lovely.
I'm sure you're.
I'm not saying you guys are town bicycles.
I'm just saying we don't want to date the town bicycle.
So my only thing is like, right, we're talking about this.
He even didn't disclose his.
He didn't say he's either.
That's like, for me, that's like a, that's just a personal thing.
I don't like putting out my personal sexual history for everybody to know.
I just, I don't want people to know that.
I don't think it's any of your fucking business, to be honest.
So it's like, why can't I just keep that to myself?
And you try to, you know, maybe I have my own things that I'm trying to deal with about that.
You know, like, what the fuck?
I don't have to.
What are you trying to say here?
What are you trying to tell us?
I'm not trying to tell you anything.
You're trying to tell us she has a high body count.
I'm not trying to tell you guys anything.
I'm just saying it's none of your business.
You're implying that you have a high body count.
No, you're making an impression.
It just shouldn't be a topic of discussion in our opinion.
Like, it just shouldn't matter in our opinion.
It shouldn't.
So past is the past.
Past shouldn't matter.
For me, sexual past.
Wait, just bring the microphone just a bit closer.
For me, personally, I'm just saying I don't like discussing my body count.
If I were a relationship with somebody, that's a total different conversation that I'm going to have with them.
I'm not in a relationship with any human beings.
That's fair.
So I'm not going to talk to you guys about that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's fair.
That's what I'm saying.
No, you're under no obligation to disclose your body count.
Actually, are you saying it's inappropriate for a dude who wants to date you to ask that question?
I think that he could, but it's just literally like any of the guys that I've dated have not asked that because it's just not something that comes up.
Well, the other thing is, is that people are going to lie about that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's not really a point in asking because both men and women are going to lie about their body count.
Yeah.
So there's not, I mean, some people are going to be honest, but most people are not going to be upfront with someone that they have interest in.
They're not going to be upfront about their body count.
I think.
No Bull Spit said shout out to Alex for actually giving her real number.
I do want to give you credit for that.
Thank you.
Yo, we do have to give Alex credit because, you know.
Yeah, people have mixed feelings about it.
We do appreciate the...
No, I think honesty is good.
I respect that a lot.
I respect you, the honesty.
Honest queen.
Do you see?
Apparently, I had an entanglement with Will Smith.
I think there is a saying, though, with the body count thing.
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
I think that is a saying.
Me and Jane had an entanglement.
Okay, Will Smith has apparently had an entanglement with everybody.
Yeah, no, but it does seem like when men state their preferences, that it's often met with contempt, disdain, shaming.
She called it pedophilia that he wanted girls that were 18.
Okay, okay, let's go.
Let's call it.
I'm sorry.
I see where she's coming from.
It was the way that he was talking about it.
It was not necessarily that, just like it's straight up.
So, like, if a guy was more respectful about it and he wanted an 18-year-old, would it not be as miraculous as you can?
I think that's so weird.
It depends on what age he was.
Okay, so you say, this is an important point.
You guys say that that's so weird, and I understand why you feel that way.
Okay, I know, I know.
You're in between the two of them.
You're in between the two of them.
The two of you said, you're both making the point that that's so weird.
I understand why you feel that way.
This was the norm for thousands of years now.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's okay.
That doesn't mean we should act like it's okay.
Why is it wrong if a guy is a younger woman with a lower body?
If we're saying that he wants an 18-year-old, like a lot of 18-year-olds are still in high school, like, you know what you were like when you were 18?
Put that in the mind of a girl.
Like, think about how you were as an 18-year-old.
Would you want to date a girl who's in the same position as you as an 18-year-old?
I absolutely would never want to date somebody that was consistent with you.
But attraction is not symmetrical.
I don't care.
Exactly.
But that's weird.
You're saying it's wrong.
But you're projecting your preference.
You think that what you're attracted to is what men are attracted to.
But men and women have different things that they're attracted to.
So attraction is not symmetrical.
Things that you find attractive in the men, men might not necessarily find attractive in you, and vice versa.
The characteristics and traits that men find attractive in women are not the same things that women find attractive in men.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
So I'm not saying that it's like completely.
Can we read this?
Wait, let's stay on topic.
We'll get to the super chat.
We'll get to the super chat.
Like what you guys, when you guys first started talking about like wanting a lower body count and all that, I was like, I understand where you're coming from.
And I'm not saying that that's completely like not okay.
That's fine.
That's just not where I identify.
And like I was never trying to shame you guys for wanting that.
I was just saying that's not what I want.
But now you're saying it's wrong that men are attracted.
I just think the 18-year-old, I say specifically the 18-year-old thing to me is weird because I was 18 for my entire last year of high school.
So I'm just like thinking of myself as that 18-year-old girl, like with a 40-year-old guy coming at me.
And I just like would feel like that was very wrong.
Like I've been that young and I've had very like old guys come on and it's just like so not okay.
It is wrong.
But men and women are attracted to different things.
And I mean, I don't, I probably would not want to date an 18-year-old in high school.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's what I know.
I'm talking about this right now.
I mean, if I'm like, but I would date, I would date an 18-year-old.
I'd date a 19, 20, 21-year-old.
Sure.
So this is where I, because I do date older guys.
It's kind of my preference.
But like my example I always give is like Kobe Bryant and his wife.
They met when she was in high school and she was really young and he was in college already.
Okay, well, there was a, if she was under the age of consent, I mean, that's totally different.
I want to make it very clear.
I think, and no, no, no, yeah, no, they didn't have a child.
Yeah, they didn't have a relationship until she graduated high school that was legal and consenting with all of that.
And then they ended up getting married.
But she could have, you know, dated all of these other girls.
He was, I mean, going, I'm not super in basketball, so I could be misquoting it, so I apologize.
But I know that he wanted to be with her and he had dated other people before her, but he wanted to date her and she came off as super mature and they were together and they had their babies and they had a successful marriage.
Obviously, they had some hiccups along the way for themselves.
But then again, he still stuck with her in the end.
He might have screwed around, but he still was like, that's my wife.
And always went back to his wife and tried to fix it with his wife.
Not everybody agrees with that way of thinking, but for me, I can understand why a woman finds an older guy attractive.
I like older guys mainly because one, with my job and my career and what I do, I make a decent amount of money and income, and I don't like dating people that are beneath my income, not because I feel like it's not a good person, but I want us to be equal.
I don't want to have to feel like I can't go on a vacation with you and we can't do what I really want to do because you can't afford what I would like to do.
Let me come in really quick on this.
So this is another asymmetry in what men and women or asymmetry and what men and women find different in terms of what they find attractive.
You mentioned that in a partner, you'd want a guy that makes at least as much as you or more, right?
So I think if you ask most men, most men don't give a fuck about a woman's finances.
They do not care.
Most men will date a barista.
They'll date a woman who works at McDonald's.
I will date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A.
I don't give a fuck.
I don't care about a girl's money at all.
It's not even a consideration.
Whereas if you ask most women, most women are going to be like, I want a guy who at least earns as much as I do or more.
Or they will at least have some degree of investment in a guy who's successful or ambitious.
Men don't care.
Most men don't care.
And if they, oh, I really want a girl who, they're lying.
Most men don't care.
I thought that would be a bit more upsetting, but.
No, I totally agree.
Thoughts?
Like, would you date a barista at Starbucks who's like 20?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And you don't care about her finances, right?
I mean, okay, if she was like a way off-the-wall spender, keep me a credit card and just like, let me just go buckwheld, like, absolutely not.
But no, yeah, if she just makes like, you know, a modest amount, like, I'm cool with that.
Right.
But you wouldn't need her to make as much as you or more.
No, you wouldn't care.
You wouldn't care.
As long as she's not like in serious debt or something.
Yeah, yeah, you probably.
Brandon, what about you?
She's got to have ambition and some kind of a plan.
She doesn't have to make a bunch of money.
You know, it's not really a pissing contest.
It's supposed to be a company.
We're supposed to come together and move as a unit if we're even on that level of talking relationship status independently.
I don't really care what she makes, but she's got to have ambition and some kind of a plan.
Kristen, you open the doors, place both of them.
Yeah, can I just add that I actually would prefer to fully provide for my wife.
I would prefer to stay at home.
Yeah, like I don't want her working for another man when like her and I can be working together, building a life together.
Yeah, 100%.
Let's open it up to the girls here.
What if she was working for a woman?
It doesn't matter.
No, you got another man.
I was just trying to throw that out there.
Yeah, that's fair.
Oh, you mean like we've both had both sides?
Well, he just said he doesn't want her working for a man.
It's not about her.
It's not about her working for a man or a woman.
It's that she's working towards building something for somebody else.
No, yeah.
I was just trying to give you shit on like your terminology.
That's fair.
Classic feminists.
Alex, very spicy.
Alex, anything on this?
Any take?
Like, money-wise?
I mean, yeah, I don't really want to work when I'm older.
Oh, no!
Oh, shit, let's go.
I love how honest you are, Alex.
I would love to be taken care of, and I'll clean and I'll cook and I'll take care of the family.
That's fine.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
Wait, do you want kids in the future?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
And so I assume when you have kids, that's the point at which, if you had a partner who could provide for you, that's the point at which you'd want to just stay at home and be provided for.
Okay.
So that's a very traditional arrangement, wouldn't you say?
Yes, but I just hate working.
Okay.
I'm tired.
I love how honest you are.
Alex is awesome.
Yeah, you are.
Yo, Alex.
This is a legend.
Alex, Ian Clasper said, purple-haired girl, wave it screen again.
This is your time to shine.
Give them a little wink.
A little wink.
There we go.
There we go.
Very cool.
Very cool.
We got one super chat here from our good friend Mike Davis.
Ask Brandon if I can be his conjugal visit next time he's locked up.
Jesus Christ.
I tell you what, send Brian a $100 super chat right now, and you got it, Mike.
Let's go.
Hey, male prostitution.
That would be the biggest super chat this stream ever receives.
By the way, can we get one person to become a member?
Join?
I want to see it in chat.
I want to see that little icon next to your name.
Can we just one person, one person?
So MD Music.
MD Music said, What's Black Shirt Chad's name?
What's up?
My name's Chase.
What's up?
Chase Paisley.
They have been calling you Chad a lot.
Yeah, Chad.
Yeah.
I'll take it.
My name's Chase.
You're close enough.
Pretty close.
Okay.
Mike Davis, thank you for that super chat.
So I want to run through just some preferences here, and I want to open it up.
If you need to go to the bathroom, you're going to have to go.
Or just.
Can I get some water?
Yeah, go for it.
Coors Light goes right through you, huh?
Hey, yeah.
Just pour some into.
Okay, so I don't know if I should wait until she's back for these, but Brandon too smart to be dating a 19-year-old.
You didn't meet this 19-year-old viewer.
She is very intelligent, super down-to-earth, very family-orientated, knows exactly what she wants out of life.
Unfortunately for me, I was just a life experience for her at the end of the day, but we're still good friends.
Don't underestimate.
Wait, is it who I think it is?
No.
Has she been on the show before?
Who I'm currently talking about?
No.
Okay.
But the other one, she's a good friend, also.
Okay.
Got it.
Will Smith says, giga Chad Chase.
Yo, let's go.
MD Music bass red-pilled Chad Chase.
Oh, loving it.
I feel like you guys only talked about what you want for working and not working.
Did you want to come in?
You guys didn't go into any other preferences.
I don't know.
Wait, what preferences?
Other preferences?
For working or not working.
Oh, for working or not working?
Yeah, you guys stopped there.
You're like, great answer.
Alex, you want.
For real.
You're like, we don't want to talk to the bartenders.
They want to work forever.
Did you want to come in on that?
Yeah, I just feel like, I don't know.
You guys all said that you wanted.
Holy shit, Mike Davis.
Oh, let's go.
Wait, I don't see it.
Mike Davis just super chatted $100.
Chris, you missed a $99.
Dude, Mike Davis is the guy.
Mike Davis, I go back to lock up.
You got it, bro.
We are setting up Mike Davis, hold up.
Wait, I got a little something for Mike Davis.
He wants my vitamin D. Let's go.
Yo, Mike Davis, here we go.
One more time, Mike.
Make it 200.
Holy shit, bro.
What are you going to do for him for cheap?
I might just peel back the shirt real quick.
Oh, snap.
Oh, he's going to show his tats.
Easy money.
Let me get that vitamin D, Brandon.
One more hundred dollars, Mike.
Where you at?
We'll jiggle right quick.
Hold on, I got something for you.
This is historic.
I got something for you, Mike Davis.
For you, Mike, right on, brother.
I got something for you, Mike Davis.
That's right.
You see that clutch this?
I am fucking clutch.
Boom, you're a fucking legend.
Okay.
AP says, I swear.
AP says, I swear, one more chat from MD in this show must be named after him.
Mike Davis, we got to get you in the studio, dude.
Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara Airport.
We got you.
You got you?
Real talk.
SBA.
I feel like if you did a podcast with him and Mike Davis together, it'd be like the funniest podcast.
Can we do it?
Please.
Please.
It's not really funny.
But I'm not sure what, if it's just a friendly banter or if there's going to be violence.
Protection.
Based on that last statement, I don't think he wants violence.
I think he wants something else.
Same.
I don't tango in that corner, brother.
But thank you for the $100 and $100 more.
Dude, Mike Davis, the fucking legend.
Straight up.
Mike.
Fucking legend.
Janelle.
Okay, so what were we talking about?
She was saying, did you want to get in a piece on what we were talking about before with like the workers?
Dang it passed, but it's fine.
Okay, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
You know what I think we should do to wrap it up?
Can I get one of the bras to screen cap me with this super sand mode right now?
Let's freaking go, dude.
All right, there we go.
I got my boys listening.
We do Goku memes all the time, so this is very on-brand.
Here, what?
I mean.
Did you just have this ready?
It's just in the studio.
What do you think, Kiki?
Okay, good to answer.
Love her.
So, okay.
What were you talking about?
Sorry, guys.
It's getting late.
We're going to wrap up here in a couple minutes.
If you want, get your super chats in.
We'll answer your last-minute super chats.
So.
I have a question.
Go ahead.
After everything that's been discussed, do you guys have any comments you want to make to us?
Yeah, well, what we'll do is actually we can do this right now.
Final thoughts, if you have just something you want to say or if a question that you want to pose to someone else on the panel, post us on the panel.
Yeah, final thoughts or final thoughts or a question?
Can we start with you guys?
Start with Starbucks.
For once?
Yeah, go that way.
Okay.
I thought this was a really cool panel.
It was a really interesting panel.
I liked it.
It was a good show.
alex is based alex is you got to give her credit for her uh Don't put it on me.
Bro, you're the Super Saiyan now.
Oh, God.
Here.
Give it to Tanner.
He's the true Sand King.
Tanner, did you say that you were in the military?
Did you mention that?
Yeah, so I still am.
I still am.
I was active duty from 2014 to 2018.
I was a paratrooper.
Now I'm a National Guard, so it's like part-time.
Did you mention that during the intro or no?
I mentioned that I was in the National Guard.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
Got it.
Yeah, so I thought it was a really cool panel.
Good discussion.
I like that you guys did not have any hesitation to share your thoughts.
I thought it was very good.
And Alex is a legend, of course.
And yeah, that's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it for me.
Oh, I guess I do have one final question.
It kind of was brought up earlier.
We were talking about the Kiki.
Chris, if you can put it on Kiki, center Zoom for a sec.
So she got pushed over somehow.
I don't know what happened there.
But so, yeah, you can bring it back.
So I think in the next 20 years, the future, maybe it could be longer than 20 years.
I think the future of dating is going to be sex robots.
I think sex robots are coming for both men and women.
So I want to open it up to the panel really quick.
Who do you think is going to better adapt to the coming of sex robots?
Who's going to be happier with the sex robot situation?
Men or women?
And would you get with a sex robot?
Okay, Alex.
Would I get with a sex robot?
Yes.
Maybe.
Do you think you'd prefer a sex robot to a real human person?
No.
Let's say this sex robot is an absolute stallion.
No.
No.
I wouldn't.
Best sex you've ever had, but it's a robot.
Have you seen the movie, What Is It Hint?
Her?
Yeah, I had seen it.
With Joaquin.
So think that, but like in an animated.
No, I don't think I would.
No.
Okay.
Jane?
No.
Not down with a sex robot?
No.
Partner robot?
No.
Husband robot.
Boyfriend robot.
Alex, any of those?
Not boyfriend, but.
Boyfriend robot?
No, no, not, not, not.
Okay.
Ashley?
No.
Not down with a sex robot?
No.
Okay.
Brandon?
Absolutely not.
Okay.
Tanner?
Yeah, absolutely not.
No.
Chase?
No way.
And I think sex robots, this is Satan's plan to destroy humanity.
There's going to be sex robots.
It's coming.
It's for sure coming.
Do you want to try it, though?
Do I want to try it?
No, no.
I said, I don't even want to try it.
First of all, I got to pay how much fucking money for this goddamn thing.
Second of all, you know what I mean?
It's just like.
I'm down for it.
I'm down.
But I mean, like, like women buy vibrators.
Like, how different is it from those people?
That's what she was saying.
Yeah.
Like, it's like, there's just a lot of people who are.
But I'm not going to use your human.
I'm not going to masturbate.
I'm not going to not date somebody because I have to use it.
This is like an artificial thing versus like whatever.
You've used a sock before.
There you go.
Artificial thing.
No, I don't want to use it.
I don't know.
I don't think dudes use socks.
Do you know dudes that have used socks before?
American Pie.
American Pie.
Yeah, I mean, sexy pie?
I'm down.
I'm down for a sex robot.
Like a 411 beef curtain queen.
Sure, why not?
Why not?
But I do think that men are going to opt out, and men already are opting out of the dating marketplace.
And I mean, there's these real dolls, which, I mean, that's kind of, I don't think that's adequate, but like when there's artificial intelligence, sex dolls that like can give you, not only, it's even not only sex.
I know this is a really odd fucking question here, but it's not only sex, but companionship.
And I think we're moving in that direction of artificial intelligence.
And I mean, I know it's kind of funny to talk about, but I think a lot of men are getting zeroed out of the dating marketplace because, I mean, like you guys said, you said you found most men unattractive.
So a lot of men are struggling.
The average man is struggling in the dating marketplace.
And sex robots are coming.
And I think they're going to be embraced by men.
And I think some women are going to be cool with it.
Who knows?
But I mean.
Like in Asia, where like a lot of dudes just like, they will not have a sexual partner.
Like, I think it's going to be big over there.
Oh, I think sex robots.
For sure.
A lot of ways are already getting out of the market just for like pornography in general.
You know what I mean?
Where again, it's like, okay, I have to get out there, I have to compete, put myself out there, maybe get rejected, like have to pay money, do all that, or I can just like jerk off, you know what I mean?
And that's super destructive.
I think pornography is super destructive on all kinds of things.
Well, I think the, I mean, the dating market for men, if you're like a top 10, top 20% guy, it's probably great.
It's probably great for you.
But average men, it fucking sucks.
For most men, it's fucking bad.
And they see it on the dating apps.
they're getting absolutely destroyed so um i think i i don't know i don't know what's going to happen but i i do think people usagi akimbo he said japan is already there I guess they've got their sex robots dialed in.
Yeah, so let's see.
Don't more adults buy diapers in Japan than they do for babies?
What?
Yeah.
Why do you know?
It's like one of those random things that you see online.
Okay.
I've never seen that online.
Yeah, I think it's like a thing.
Oh, so final thoughts.
I guess, did you guys want us to, so Chase, if you want to give a final thought?
Yeah.
First off, I want to appreciate how open you guys were, despite us having very different opinions and you guys feeling judged, like, Alex, massive respect for your openness and just like your honesty.
Yeah, if I'm being honest, like, I think this extreme liberal attitude towards sex is insanely damaging to our society.
I think that there's going to be a lot of people.
I think there's going to be, so women right now, between the age of like 40 and 50, childless women, that is the number one demographic on antidepressants.
And I think that there's going to be a lot of childless women in the future because of the really liberal mentality towards sex.
I think that's a bad thing.
I think it's cancerous on our society.
But I respect you guys as people.
I don't respect the super high body counts and stuff, but I respect you guys as people otherwise.
And I appreciate your guys' honesty tonight.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Tenner, final thoughts or a question for the panel?
Had a really great time.
Appreciate Zap being super open and honest.
For sure.
First time doing anything like this, so pretty exciting.
Yeah, thank you for coming, man.
Appreciate it.
Brandon, final thought or question?
I think everybody kept it real.
I appreciate the ladies.
Some of the questions and topics were a little nerve unraveling, but they went with it well.
Right on.
Kudos.
The gentleman, you guys are my, you know, you guys are my boys, you know what I'm saying?
However, don't feel hesitant to test your theories.
That's fair.
Kiki?
Kiki, final thought?
Silence.
Good answer.
Okay, Ashley, final thought or question for the panel?
Yeah, I think it was pretty good.
We had a good conversation.
Everybody was able to talk and had a lot to say, which is super good.
I think that we should all just definitely respect each other's opinions and respect each other's preferences.
Like, we can all think differently and we can all have different preferences and that's okay, but we don't need to be mean about it.
You know what I mean?
Like, we just don't.
Was it the Tom Bicycle so hard?
No, no, that wasn't what it was.
It was just like, I'm just going to leave it at that.
I think that like, we can just all have different preferences and we can all like different things and that that's okay.
And that's what I said from the beginning.
I am curious, though, what did we say that was mean?
I feel like we don't need to like fully get into it.
It'll be a whole thing.
But it's just like, you know, once you guys get into this thing and then you say town by school and you guys all kind of agree and you guys are all like, you guys all agree with each other.
Like that's good though.
Like that's fine.
You guys are friends, you agree.
You guys can talk about that and I agree with a lot of my friends too.
But like when we're having a discussion like this, when we're going back and forth, we need to give everybody a chance to, you know, not be judged and not be seen and looked down on.
I'm not sure.
Were we judging?
I probably was, obviously.
Well, I don't mean to look down on you.
I didn't mean to look down.
No, it's fine.
doesn't bother me.
I'm just, we're having a conversation where a lot of people can see a lot of people are viewing it.
So I'm going to voice my reaction.
Respect.
Yeah.
Respect.
Yeah, I mean, as far as the body count thing, it's so funny that you guys are so stuck on this to me.
It's not just us.
It's like all dudes.
Well, it's really not.
Like, I promise you, it's really not all dudes.
It's not.
None of my guy friends care.
None of my guy friends.
My guy friends definitely care.
Yeah, but we have very different friends.
I think me and you both know that.
That's true.
I think me and you both know that.
That's true.
Most guys can't be honest, though.
No, they can't.
My guy friends are so honest.
I have so many friends that are guys that aren't.
Can you have them come on to the next show?
Absolutely.
Because to me, it boggles my mind that I would be like, gee, I really want a girl that fucked 100 guys.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm going to bring her down.
But I just don't care.
Yeah.
They don't care.
They don't care.
I'm going to bring them on then.
Then they've.
And they're and they're super attractive, super great guys.
Slave minds.
Slave minds.
I mean, they've had the programming in general.
No, they're just like thinking about other things.
They're past that.
They're beyond that train of thought.
Like, they're thinking about women in a different way.
How many, let me ask you a question.
How many of these dudes would make good husbands?
All of them.
I doubt that.
I promise you.
I doubt that.
Shots fired.
Shots fired.
I doubt it.
They would.
I love them all.
So anyways.
It's just like.
I promise you they would.
Like, they're my best friends.
Like, I have a really solid group of friends that we all like have talked about all this stuff.
And like, they would be great husbands.
Like, they would.
Guys can cheat on their wives, would be committed.
No, they're just, they see women past that.
They see me and they don't think of me as just like a woman with a high body count.
Yeah, but they're your friends.
I don't think I just.
Yeah, they're my friends.
They think of me and they think of me like they think of their guy friend.
Like they are, they see me as an equal.
They don't see me as somebody that should have a loving person.
Are you saying when they're pursuing, when they're pursuing a romantic partner, they have communicated to you that they do not care?
They don't care.
They've communicated that.
Yes.
Overtly.
Yes.
They've said, I don't care if she's slept with 300 men.
We've spoken about this before.
They don't.
I mean, I think they're lying, Cap.
There's no way.
Total cap.
There's no fucking total cap.
So if a woman had slept with a thousand men.
I'm sure there's a fucking, there's a fucking limit.
Like, there's obviously a limit.
Why is this?
Where is the worst?
But we've never talked about a limit because we're not like, oh my God, that's so crazy.
We're like, oh, I don't really care about that.
That's just a thing that comes up and we say, I don't really care about that.
And then we move on to another subject because we don't really care.
But maybe they know what I mean?
Maybe they're currently.
So it doesn't go past that.
But the conversation doesn't go past that.
We say we don't care and we move on.
I hear you.
But maybe they're saying that to appease.
Appease.
They're not.
Most people disagree with me.
Ian Clasper.
Ian Clasper said.
Okay, they're not trying to impress me.
They're my friends.
I can't impress you with you.
Most men are not going to disagree with me.
You guys can think whatever you want.
Ian Clasper said, your friends are simps.
And I'm curious how many of these dudes.
I'm curious how many of these dudes that you're saying agree with you or like they don't care.
They're saying this because they know that you don't care and you'd be pissed if they did care and they want to bang you.
How many of these friends want to bang you?
Well, I thought I was so, I thought I was so unattractive because I've slept with a lot of guys though.
That's not.
You know, like, why would they want to bang me?
You're a beautiful girl.
It's not that you're unattractive.
That's not what it is.
That's not what it is.
It's not what it is.
There's attractiveness in terms of like physical attractiveness, and then there's like picking a girl in terms of like do you think that's a good idea?
So you think that they would skew their views in front of all of these friends?
Do men do that?
Men have to.
Men have to do the time.
All right, well, that's just where we're going to disagree.
Well, men cannot be honest with their preferences, standards, and boundaries because we get shamed for it.
Because it goes against the status quo of what is considered socially acceptable.
For example, if a guy says, I don't want to date a woman who's overweight, he's like, most fat phobic.
You're going to get shamed for your preferences.
Men's preferences, standards, and boundaries are almost always going to be met with contempt, derision, some sort of shaming language, insecure, small dick, energy, misogyny, all this stuff.
Yeah, and dudes that are put in the friend zone who are simping for a chick, they will 100% compromise on their values and stuff so that they can get a morsel of that pussy.
Like, it's such a common thing.
Truly.
Okay.
I'm just going to disagree with you guys on that exact subject.
Audience, do you guys think that her friends are simps or not?
Tell us.
Oh, my God.
Like, you don't know my friends.
Like, you guys just don't know that dynamic and you don't know like the group of friends that I have.
It's different.
It's different.
You're right.
We don't.
Yeah.
Okay, well, we'll move on from the body count discussion because you've definitely...
It's so funny.
If you guys want to come in on more, that's fine.
We want to obviously give you guys a chance to give your take.
But Jane, do you want to come in with your final thought or question for the panel?
My final thoughts.
I appreciate being on here, being asked to be on here, meeting some new people.
I would love to like socializing and meeting different people and their perspectives, because I think regardless on what side that you're on, I feel like it either helps better your opinion or helps broaden your mind a little bit more.
I would like to say, you know, it's kind of refreshing, though, to see us, how we can be different on certain things, but then kind of unite together, which I think is kind of nice, like, especially for us to just be able to have an open conversation.
And yeah, we might get very passionate about what we're passionate about, but in ultimate, that's like such a beautiful thing that we can actually be passionate about and what we want to talk about.
You know what I mean?
Amen.
I thought it was very fun.
I haven't had a conversation like this in a while.
And it's good to get it out and be open and do it in a non-demeaning way.
I think that's why I was so okay with this conversation.
The only thing I would have maybe liked if we didn't go back to the body count so much.
Because there was other points that were actually really important that I feel like we could have discussed a little bit more.
But because there was a lot of poking going on and it was more entertaining, I get it.
But at the same time, I was like, okay, drop it.
Like, this is like old news.
Like, come on.
We can try something else.
Yeah, we're kind of killed back.
But other than that.
What would you have preferred we talk about instead?
Like we were talking about like the older age one and then like marriage and things like that.
So like I would have preferred if we went back to that and then like actual dating preferences.
Like that's one dating preference, but there was other ones we kind of bruised over.
So that was my only little thing.
But aside from that, I had a great time.
Sure, sure.
Well, we can have you come back on and certainly get into some other topics.
We are definitely have gone a bit long tonight.
So unfortunately, we won't be able to get into some of those other things, but certainly in another show, it'd be great to get into some of those other topics.
And then finally, Alex, final thought or question for the panel.
I had a great time.
It was super fun.
I'm not used to being so like perceived by people, but it was kind of a lot.
Final question.
Would you got any of you guys get your significant other's name tattooed on you?
Yes or no?
I don't have any tattoos whatsoever, so no.
How about your kid?
I mean, I do have a lower back dolphin tattoo.
What do you mean you don't have tattoos?
I'm kidding, kid.
But yeah.
No, I don't think I wouldn't get a tattoo.
Ever?
Nah, never.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Nothing against tattoos.
I think they're cool.
Just, I feel like my tastes change, and then I'd feel bad if I had a tattoo, and then I started not liking it, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would not.
Do you have any?
I have two.
Two tattoos.
What's the 30,000?
That's your true body count?
Yeah.
Can you show the case?
It says 10,000, and that's a story for another time.
Okay, next time.
Tanner?
Yeah.
No, I wouldn't get a significant other tattooed on me.
If it was my kid, maybe, probably, but as you know for another, no.
No, I wouldn't.
And Brandon?
I don't have any significant other names on me, present or past, but who knows in the future.
Brandon, who is this?
Who are these women on your arm?
Random.
Can you turn to the camera to show the camera?
Random.
Yo, we got a mic in the way.
Which one is that?
Alex, can you move?
Just put your mic in your lap?
Yeah, there it is.
All right.
Just random patterns that a friend of mine had that was doing a bunch of work.
No one in particular, just good work.
Interesting.
Did you do those tattoos?
No, I didn't.
Okay.
But you do tattoo yourself, right?
I do my face, my eye.
Okay, got it.
Got it.
Would you get a significant other tattooed on you?
I don't think like the actual name, maybe like a matching one or like something like that was like together, but maybe not the actual name.
It's a smart idea.
Oh, I would get my husband for sure.
Yeah, I would get like a super dope thing for the ring and then probably get some on my shoulder.
I'd love that.
They don't want to be covered up.
I'll do it for you.
Okay, we're going to wrap up here in just a couple minutes.
I just have to get through a couple super chats.
Wait, have you done it?
What?
Have you gotten a tattoo of a significant other on you?
This says bitch right here.
Wait, can you show the boyfriend named?
You had a boyfriend named Bitch?
I've had a couple boyfriends that were bitches.
Yes.
Wait, and that was the inspiration for the tattoo.
No, I was kidding.
Okay.
It would be kind of funny if it wasn't.
That would be super funny.
No, I would.
I would get it.
You can get a lot of tattoos covered up.
So we got a couple super chats here.
I got to get through.
Tom Haven, the $2 super chat.
How'd you get on the show?
What was Alex's count?
39.
Yo, Alex, Entertain Me says I'd get Alex's name tatted on me.
Ooh.
Thank you.
Her DMs are open, right?
She's single?
Single?
Okay.
Oh, you're written that, right?
Like, we're single.
Single.
Like, single.
California Dreamin'.
Thank you for the $5 super chat.
Appreciate the support.
Question for all.
Why in society is it hot for women to be bisexual, but when it comes to guys, they have to hide their sexual curiosity?
I mean, I certainly agree that I think when it comes to bisexuality, it is deemed a bit more acceptable if it's a woman who's bisexual as compared to a guy.
But why?
I'm not sure.
Do you guys, I can't open up to the panel.
Yeah.
I think bi guys are hot.
I think.
Bullshit.
I absolutely do.
Bullshit.
I think it's like super hot.
I promise you.
You got some like super feminine bi dude.
He's like.
That's my preference.
Like that is literally like, that is like, I was talking about my type the other day, and that's it.
Like, that would be a preference for me.
I know it's like very, very unique, so it's not something that I like actively look for because it's hard to find, but that is like right there.
I would love to see how many dudes you've dated actually fit this description.
Honestly, a couple of them.
And same for me.
I mean, I like the feminine guys too.
And like, but I do know some girls that don't like bi guys because they like they want a more masculine guy, not just them.
But like, I mean, everyone's a friend.
A bi guy could be incredibly masculine.
Yeah.
Especially they have that like mixture.
They do, and it's so high.
It's like so perfect.
Okay.
Next super chat.
Scope King 1994.
I played Detroit Become Human.
Okay.
Not sure.
All right.
Thank you.
Stephen Krug with the $10 super chat.
Super chat.
Thank you, Stephen, for the support.
Much appreciated.
People can have different preferences, sure, but when it comes to population collapse, every human's best interest, data supports, high body counts, means lower birth rates and collapsing pyramid.
Boom.
Yeah, I mean, I guess.
I think we could take a little bit of a bunch of people.
You know, I think what is best for society, and this is a very idealized vision for society, is people are not promiscuous.
They get married.
They have children.
The nuclear family, they stay married.
They don't get divorced.
That's what's best for society.
And we've definitely been efforts to destroy the nuclear family.
I think that's bad.
I think society functions best when you have strong family units.
You have men and women that love each other and stay together.
And yeah, there's definitely in the West, I mean, it's collapsing.
So, anyways, I can open up to the panel if anyone wants to come in.
I mean, I just want to say, like, Elon Musk talks about this all the time.
He says, like, one of the biggest concerns on his mind is that we have population collapse on the horizon.
And it's because people aren't having enough kids to replace everybody that's in society.
Like, birth rates are going way down.
And I think that's bad.
I will say.
Elon Musk sucks.
Say it again.
Say it again.
They didn't see you.
Really?
Yeah, Elon Musk sucks.
You get what he says.
Would you date him?
Yes.
Oh my God.
There you- The money!
There you- He's a money!
He's a money!
You said because he has money?
Yeah, he's a billionaire.
So he sucks, but because he's rich, you would date him.
Oh, she would change up everything for Elon Musk.
So shallow.
Okay.
Okay, there you go, exposed.
You look at me in disbelief as if it's not shallow.
Come on.
I feel like the nuclear family, though, is someone.
Poster check.
What?
Alex was slouching like crazy.
I was just saying.
I'm concerned, Alex.
I'm concerned.
I feel like the nuclear family in the majority has been slowly deteriorating a lot.
And I think that it's really unfortunate.
And maybe I don't see it as more the procreation side of it and the population.
I see it more as like being able to have parents that are together and you can actually see an example of love.
Because if somebody decides whatever they want to be, you know, however they want to express that, that's fine.
But I think it's very hard and it's very rare for people to see what true love is nowadays and genuine acceptance.
And that's what's really being destroyed.
And I think that's what really messes up the equality for everyone, you know?
At least that's what I personally feel for that.
Amen.
I agree.
Definitely agree.
Okay.
Brandon, I know you want to come in on this one.
Can you repeat it again?
I got lost in comments.
Oh, He's basically talking that difference preferences, sure, but there's a concern for population collapse due to promiscuity.
And it means lower birth rates, collapsing society.
I think that's crap.
No comment.
Okay.
Dude, express your enigmas comment right there.
Fire.
Chris, you can highlight that one if you want.
Express, especially by telling men they say men and women should split the check.
No, men should lead.
Okay.
I disagree with the last part.
I disagree with the last part too.
Men should not pay for the first date.
No.
Well, I'm going to.
You're going to.
Okay, let's talk about this one real quick.
Oh, my God.
So, real quick, we're going to wrap up here very soon.
But so you think the guy should pay for the first date?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
He should pay for the first date.
100%.
Alex?
Yeah.
The guy should pay for the first date?
Yeah.
Okay, Ashley?
I think whoever asks the person out should pay for the first date or we should split it.
Like, I'm constantly, like, whenever the guy goes to the bathroom, if I like him, I'll pay for the date.
Like, as soon as we're about to leave, he gets up, he goes to the bathroom, I like him, I'll pay for it.
But what if you don't like him?
If I don't like it, I'll split it.
You'll split.
Okay.
If I don't like a guy, I will pay for the entire thing.
I want to wipe my hands.
Yeah, yeah.
I get that too.
I will also do that.
But like, I like paying for dates.
See, okay, I have a take that I think a lot of men and a lot of women are going to disagree with.
I'll say it really quick.
I think we talked about it last show.
So, first off, there's this common idea that whoever asks should pay for the date.
Fuck that, because de facto, men are the ones that have to ask.
So your answer might as well be the man should pay.
Whoever asks, let's be honest, men are overwhelmingly going to be the ones that have to pay.
Secondly, there's gone are the days where people were dating.
If you were going on a date with someone, you had like a genuine interest in them.
People have so many options.
They're going on so many dates.
So like the chances of any one date working out is greatly diminished as compared to 10, 20, 30 years ago.
So yeah, then there's foodie calls.
Like some people just go on a date and they just want a free meal.
Foodie calls?
Foodie calls.
That's a thing.
It's a thing.
Foodie calls.
So there's that.
And then kind of like my big thing is, is that related to people having so many options.
Gone are the days of people just dating one person at a time.
Similarly, gone are the days of people sleeping with just one person at a time.
So if you're going on a first date with a girl, you have to assume she's fucking at least one other guy.
You have to assume that.
She could be sleeping with two, three other guys.
So my thing is, I'm not going to pay for a girl if she's fucking another guy.
Point blank, period.
That's my thing.
To me, it just make me feel really bad if I paid for a girl under those circumstances.
So yeah, you do not adhere to your traditional gender rules if she does not adhere to hers.
That's my take.
Amen.
I just feel like it's way more likely that it's the dude that's fucking multiple people than it is the girl.
Nope.
It's for sure.
And I just don't like him.
If I like him, I don't care who he's fucking.
I'll pay.
I'll fucking.
It's just me.
I'd be dating her.
I don't.
No, so I don't, of course, I don't have on a first date, I don't have an expectation of loyalty, but I have to assume that she's sleeping with somebody else.
I'm not going to.
I'm a fairly monogamous person, but there's times.
Fairly monogamous.
There's times.
There's times.
But the thing is, I don't have the expectation that she's going to pay for me on the date.
Yeah.
So, Brian, there's low-key a contradiction here.
What's the contradiction?
You said you don't want a promiscuous woman, but you also said that you're fairly monogamous.
What's up, bro?
I don't think that's hypocrisy.
It's kind of a double standard.
Not, well, it's a justified double standard, I'll say that, but I'm not proud.
We have an Andrew Tate in the house.
But I'm not particularly promiscuous.
Like, if I'm dating a girl, I want to pursue that.
See, these guys that just want to run through a bunch of chicks, to me, that's weird.
Like, if I see a girl and if I sleep with a girl, I want to pursue it.
Like, I want to continue seeing her.
So I'm not trying to, like, hit and quit it.
I'm not, there's this Sir Mixolot song, Baby Got Back.
Maybe you guys have heard it.
Some punks like to hit it and quit it.
I'd rather stay and play.
I'd rather stay and play.
If I hook up with a girl, I want to continue seeing her.
So I don't know.
Okay, good talk.
What was the original question?
No, it was paying for games.
Someone made a comment, and I was like, no, I'm passionate about this.
I want to answer this one if I can, briefly.
Sure, sure.
Go ahead.
If I like a girl, I want to pay for the first date.
However, like what Brian was saying, if it's going to be like me, the man paying for the first date, I expect the woman to stay in a womanly role, right?
Tip for all the fellas out there, if you think a girl is a handful and if you think she's a stuck-up princess, ask her if she's willing to split the bill with you.
And if she throws a fit over it, you know you got a lot on your hands with that one.
I won't throw a fit.
I'll just be like, she just will never see you again.
I'll just pay the whole thing and just not talk to you.
Yeah, that's fair.
Wait, that's fair.
Do you believe in the quality?
Yeah.
So why should the guy have to pay?
Because I feel like it's a respectful thing to do.
I like that.
Why can't you be respectful to the guy?
I am very respectful to him.
giving him my fucking time so he's giving you but but what you're giving he's giving you his time too Okay.
And your point?
But so why does he have to pay?
Why can't I want to go into the, why can't I like feeling pursued?
What's wrong with that?
She wants him to pay because she likes the traditional gender roles, right?
Well, I guess if you want to put it that way, yeah.
But isn't that antithetical to equality?
if you want equality you have to have it in all realms you can't just equality is not a buffet You don't get to pick and choose what things you like about it.
If I'm in a relationship with somebody and that's been established and it comes to financials, that's a different thing.
If you're asking me on a date for the first time and you ask me on the date and you plan where we're going and you decide to go to this really nice restaurant, you don't ask me my tax bracket.
You don't ask me all those questions.
Okay, sure.
So that's fine.
These are a lot of other things that go through my mind.
Maybe I'm not going to splurge that out right now because obviously I'm trying to do it like more.
Okay, first off, if a guy on the first date takes a girl somewhere extremely expensive, you're an idiot.
But facts.
Yeah, if you're taking a girl somewhere very expensive, then yeah, you should probably pay under those circumstances.
But like in any scenario, if a guy's taking you for tacos, you still want him to.
You still want to pay me.
I would like him to pay, yeah.
I would appreciate that.
Okay.
I just, I don't see why you have to get into more dissecting it.
I just think you're overcomplicated.
It's just a very simple gesture.
It's romantic for me.
It's just like a super.
Also, to me, I look at it as my fact.
Like, you know, I'm taking time out of my day to go on a date with you, right?
The amount of money that I have to put on my face for my makeup, to do my hair, to wear my heels, to wear my dress, and like put all of this effort in it to make sure that I look nice.
And it's not like I'm, yes, I am looking a bit more.
Guys have to do things too.
Okay.
Guys have to go to the gym.
We have to shave our beards more.
Well, I guess women don't have beards, but we have to shave our facial hair.
We look good.
I'm feeling we're getting off track.
We got shit to do.
And then, I mean, let me ask, do you want a guy who can protect you?
Hold on, let me just finish.
Do you want a guy who's capable of protecting you?
Yeah.
Okay.
So maybe that involves MMA training.
Maybe that involves having a firearm.
Okay.
So he's bringing his protection.
You're bringing your beauty, right?
If you're on a first date.
It's not just a drink.
She never said she wants some feminist equality relationship, though.
Like, if it was a different girl who had said she wants some super feminist equality relationships.
No, but she also demands the guy pay on the first date, then there's a contribution.
But she's not saying that.
I did ask about the equality, though, right?
Like you said, you believe in equality.
Yeah, but why?
If you actually, like, depending on which religion you are, but in Christianity, if you actually look at it, there is an equality between a husband and a wife.
There's certain roles that they're supposed to fill, but they're an equality for each other.
Do you believe that the man should be the leader in the household?
When you're married.
You can't pick and choose.
I feel like when you're married, yeah.
Yeah.
I do.
What about early on in the relationship?
I don't know how I feel about that just yet.
I still don't know how I feel.
But on the first date, there's an expectation that he provide and pay for the date.
Well, yeah.
So he has to adhere.
It's just so basic.
I don't feel like we need to overtake the game.
Traditional girls.
No, traditional girl.
It's just that's how I feel about that.
That's it.
It's like not that.
She believes we're equal, but she also likes the tradition, right?
But why does the guy have to adhere to his traditional gender roles, but you don't have to adhere to your traditional gender roles?
I have a preference on how I want a guy to be.
If he doesn't want to do that, that's fine.
I'm going to move on to the next person that will.
It's not a mean thing.
It's just that's a preference.
Just like you guys have yours.
I would prefer to be.
Totally fair.
Yeah.
It's like not that complicated.
Fair enough.
Okay.
I don't know.
We kind of got a bit sideback there.
I told you.
I have to.
We're going to have to see ourselves out.
I can wrap up really quick if you guys can just hang for another five minutes.
Okay.
Really quick here.
Did we lose a super chat?
Oh, Mikey Davis's comment again.
Get me tattooed, Brandon Daddy, please.
Mike Davis.
Mike Davis with the $20 Super Chat.
Thank you.
Get me tattooed, Brandon Daddy, please.
Okay.
Thank you, Mike Davis, for the super chat.
Brandon, do you have anything you want to say to Mike Davis?
Thank you.
Tom Haven, how do you find guests?
Is Brian egotistical?
I mean, find guests, whatever.
I don't think so.
Brian is an egomaniac.
Egomaniac.
Egomaniac.
No, I think I'm pretty down to earth for the most part.
Stephen Krug, $2 super chat.
Whoa, that chick is toxic.
NARC, double standard.
Okay.
Thank you for the super chats, guys.
Okay.
Do you guys have time to quickly watch a little fun, fun little video to kind of have to go?
Sure, sure.
Chris, can you pull up the Patrice O'Neal clip and then we will end it there?
It's about to be hella polarizing right before we end.
No, it's fun.
It's fun.
Can you...
Let me ask you a question.
Here's a question.
Yeah.
Oh, just start it from the beginning, Chris.
See a question.
Here's a question.
Here's a serious question.
Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away.
Or you're going to die.
How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because you just lost a pussy in a train accident.
Can't just walk right out on him.
How would you keep your man past that if he didn't have a vagina?
Pause it, Chris.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Do you want to answer his question?
Wait.
Did you just zone out?
Yeah, I did.
I don't know what.
How would I keep a man if I didn't have...
Okay, if you lost your, you know.
Yeah.
How would you keep your man?
This is actually a brilliant question.
I would.
Hold on, let's.
Sorry, we got a bus or some shit going by.
Let's start with Alex.
Okay.
If I lost my vagina?
Yeah.
I would just like, I mean, I guess like, the only, I would make up for that.
I'm like, oral or something, but then just do everything else the same, but we just can't have sex and I would just do it.
I would please him in other ways.
Jane?
I would just end it.
I'd end it all.
You'd end your life if... Jesus.
God damn.
Oh, my God.
Respect the honesty.
Okay.
She's ending it.
Ashley.
Yeah, I would definitely just like do everything else that I can like physically but like I would still be like whoever I'm with is gonna be like my fucking like If I get married, they're gonna be my best friend like you're gonna be my dog Like, we're going to do everything together.
Like, that's not going to stop.
That's not going to change.
Okay.
Got it.
Chris, bring it back.
Wow.
Nothing?
You can talk.
You can talk.
Suck his dick.
Okay.
Mouth.
Asshole, okay, Chris.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Now, I've been getting pussy bean the whole show, right?
But I give women an opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
But you just classified yourself as a series of holes, but I'm still.
I'm.
I'm supposed to teach you special, but you're just a bunch of hoes to yourself.
No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
Well, look, whatever.
Okay.
Any thoughts on that?
Alex?
I just think it's funny how everyone's calling me wifey material when my body count is high.
There's just something.
The boys have been proven wrong.
I guess the women win this one.
The chat is in love with Alex.
So there you have it.
Everybody is.
There you have it.
Anyways, guys, I think we're going to wrap up there.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been.
Oh, wait, hold on.
I forgot.
Can you lower the volume a bit, Chris?
I forgot the fucking outro music.
Yeah, that's good.
Maybe.
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay, so we're going to wrap up.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
Really appreciate it.
You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
We will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. with our next dating talk show.
I want to thank the wonderful panel for coming in.