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Dating Talk #5

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	We are live.
	Welcome.
	Whoa, voice crack.
	Are we live?
	Can we get a one in the chat just to make sure we're live?
	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.
	We are live every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific time.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas, joined by my co-host, Bulma.
	She's a bit shy, a bit shy.
	We're coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
	A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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	If you're in Santa Barbara, you can even do it in studio.
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	And without further ado, let's get right into it.
	We're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, school major, and current relationship status.
	And we're going to start over here with Gabby.
	Hi, I'm Gabby.
	I'm a college student at UCSB.
	I'm studying SOSH, and I'm 21.
	I'm single.
	And yeah, Insta's at Gabby Kaitlyn.
	Okay, I'm Morgan.
	I'm 19.
	I'm currently not enrolled in school right now.
	And all my socials are momo.wood.
	I'm a Stephanie.
	I'm 20.
	I am in a relationship.
	I do have a podcast as well, biceps and bullshit on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
	And my Instagram is at yourfitmommy.
	I'm also in a relationship too.
	You gave your relationship status though?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm Veena.
	I'm also a student at UCSB.
	I'm studying architecture right now and my relationship status is complicated.
	What does that mean?
	What does complicated mean?
	There's no one I would officially call my boyfriend right now.
	So we're going to go with complicated.
	It's complicated.
	But are you currently like, is there a guy you're talking to?
	Yeah, I would say that.
	Okay, got it.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Hi, my name's Naomi.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I'm currently a fourth year at UCSB.
	I study global studies.
	I'm also a waitress at Mitza.
	My relationship status is in a relationship as of recently.
	And I actually work with Rafaela here.
	Hello, my name is Rafaela Griffith.
	I'm a psychology student at Santa Barbara City College.
	I am single at the moment.
	And I'm also, yeah, like Naomi said, I'm a waitress at Mitza.
	Rock and roll.
	Cool.
	And you said your relationship status is single, correct?
	Okay.
	Very sweet.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	See, what, so what does that mean, single?
	Like, you're not, is there a guy you're talking to?
	For me, no.
	I just, I have, like, no, like, relationships with any guys at the moment, in that sense, romantic way.
	When was your last relationship?
	My last relationship was last year.
	My ex and I broke up then.
	And we were dating for two years.
	Why did he dump you?
	Oh, good question.
	Oh, my.
	I'm assuming.
	I'm assuming that.
	He actually did.
	Oh, he did.
	So it was complicated.
	I would say like at that time I wasn't really the right mindset to be in a relationship.
	I was not very mature and there's a lot of things I need to work on.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	By the way, we have a comment here in the chat.
	Somebody, Justin Kelly, is saying that my mic is a little blown out.
	Can you guys in the chat just let us know, is my microphone a little bit too loud?
	Can you guys let us know?
	One, two, three.
	Sorry, guys, we're doing it live.
	We're still getting it figured out.
	We've been having a little bit of some audio issues.
	So yeah, let me know if it sounds a bit too loud.
	But so the topic of the show today, and actually, you know what, Eric, why don't I have you pull up the little chart we have?
	Okay.
	So if you can see this, Eric, if you were blocking a little bit, this is a chart of Leonardo DiCaprio.
	Oh my gosh.
	And he apparently he refuses to date a woman over 25.
	You'll see that in orange is Leonardo DiCaprio's age.
	And then below, it's the age of all his girlfriends.
	I've seen this before.
	This is familiar to me.
	Yeah.
	So Leonardo DiCaprio is certainly an outlier, but that'll kind of bring us into our first topic, our first question.
	And Eric, if you want to go ahead and just bring it back, and you guys are free to share your thoughts on that chart too.
	But what do you guys think about age gaps in dating?
	And just, I want to make it perfectly clear, I'm referring exclusively to adult relationships.
	Both people are over 18.
	So for example, a 35-year-old dating a 25-year-old.
	And we're going to start with Raphael.
	La?
	Raphael, La.
	So this is such a tricky question for me because I think it all kind of is like circumstantial.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, me personally, I don't really, I'm not really attracted to older men.
	And I feel like it would be, I don't know, I'm uncomfortable when older guys are into me, like in that sense.
	So I probably would not date someone older in the sense of like, I don't know, 10 years older.
	I was going to say what age gap.
	Yeah, maybe 10 years or like 8 years.
	I don't know.
	It just really depends.
	But if he's, like, someone's into it, if you're into it, then I think that's okay.
	Go for it.
	Yeah, go for it.
	If it's not hurting anyone, then yeah.
	Honestly, for me, so I do have an opinion on it.
	I have like gone on dates with older men.
	I did go on a date with a man who was 37 when I was 19, which was a large age gap, but I actually really liked him.
	But looking back on it now, I'm like, from his perspective, that's a little weird, you know?
	It's like a little bit too much of an age gap.
	I think appropriately, like my sister met her boyfriend when she was 21 and he was 27.
	There was like a six-year age gap.
	So I think anywhere from like one to like 10 years max, if you're like 20 and above, I feel like it's okay.
	I feel like if you're 18, you're freshly out of high school, and say you're dating like a 27-year-old, I feel like that's screwing me a little bit.
	I feel like you just don't know anything.
	Yeah, you're too young, you're too innocent, you haven't been out in the real world, you know.
	Wait, what was the example of the age difference that you just provided?
	For my sister and her boyfriend?
	No, the one where you're like, that's a bit screwy.
	Oh, like if you're like, say if he's like 27 and like dating an 18-year-old girl, like fresh out of high school, like I think that's just like a little too much because you know, like they're 18, they're freshly graduated, they haven't like, because I feel like college for sure definitely ages you a lot.
	It gives you a lot of maturity, kind of helps you figure out your life.
	When you're fresh out of high school, you really don't know a lot, you know?
	Yeah.
	So that's kind of my viewpoint on it.
	So would you object to that sort of relationship?
	Yeah, like say if I saw like an 18-year-old freshly graduated high school and she's dating this 27-year-old, I would say, no, like that's not okay.
	You know, like it should be illegal?
	No.
	Or it's not a lot of people.
	Not like it should be illegal because I mean like everyone's different.
	Like say this, maybe like an 18-year-old's been through a lot of life experience and they have life experience.
	And it all depends on like mentality and maturity.
	But from like the guy's perspective, and he's like 27 and like been an adult for like nine, ten years already, and like he sees his 18-year-old girl and is like, yeah, I want her fresh out of like fresh, you know?
	That's just my viewpoint.
	Vina?
	I kind of agree.
	Like it's like circumstantial.
	Like if you're 18 and 27 in that example, like you're in college, like you're like barely experiencing things.
	If you're 27, you're kind of like, you're probably working or like maybe doing something and you're like at different stages in your life.
	So I feel like I would also like object to that.
	And it like it goes both ways, like men and women.
	Like if I was 27, I wouldn't want to date an 18-year-old.
	And so I would question why men would.
	Okay.
	I'll give my piece afterwards.
	I'll let you guys all answer.
	Go ahead.
	Well, here's my thing.
	My mom, for example, met my dad.
	My dad was in his late 20s somethings.
	My mom was like 16.
	She got me when she was 17.
	And my dad was like still in his late 20s.
	And so right now my mom's 36, my dad is 50.
	And so there's an age gap.
	There's an age gap.
	And I feel like I personally don't see it different just because I don't want to say like in Mexican culture, but it's just normalized.
	It's totally okay for there to be an age gap just because you see the stories of like people coming together to the States and like it's like that.
	So I was just like seen in my like growing up, I saw it as something normal.
	Like you, I also dated someone, well, not dated, we were like talking.
	I dated someone, he was 23, I was 18.
	It was, we were just, it was a couple months.
	It was a lot of talk about like, oh, are you ready to move out of your parents' house?
	Like, I can get you an apartment type thing.
	And it was like, too soon, too fast, just like you said.
	Like, he was definitely like, you're fresh out of high school.
	Like, I want you.
	So it was not, it didn't work.
	So I agree with like both Steph and Naomi.
	Like, yeah, my mom, she was older than all her boyfriends, though.
	But she had my siblings very young, like 16.
	And like, I don't know, but then like also like Naomi, like, why would a 27-year-old even go for someone that's 18?
	You know, like, I don't know.
	I feel like you just, it's just weird.
	Like, go for someone like that's 25, like your own age, someone who's experienced.
	But I can't really say anything because I dated someone that was 19 when I was 15.
	So what?
	Very illegal.
	Very illegal.
	Oh, man, you can say that to the stream.
	All right.
	We're ending the show.
	The show is over.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So let's not talk about that.
	Yeah, we're not.
	We don't even know what that is.
	We're not going to go into that.
	She was joking, guys.
	She was just joking about this.
	Don't even know that.
	Chris Hansen, if you're watching, she was joking.
	Okay.
	Gabby, why don't you go ahead?
	I also agree with what everyone has said.
	I feel like it really does depend on the age and how large the age gap is.
	I feel like it's more okay if, like once both partners are like after 30 years old, because I feel like then they've had like enough experiences and stuff and they're also very like mature and an adult.
	So I feel like after 30 is like more okay.
	But age gaps when you're below it's a little questionable or very questionable, I think, like at least over, like I don't know, maybe like 30.
	But once you reach like 20s, like anywhere from, like the age gap like say, someone's 20, anywhere from 20 to 30, I think that's like the benchmark when you get that kind of like experience.
	You know like my sister was 21, her boyfriend was 27 and like they've been together like six years.
	You know like she had a very mature, like uh, mindset at 21.
	so i feel like my opinion is like when once you hit that like 20 year old benchmark or like just your 20s in general that's when everyone is kind of on the same wavelength that makes sense that makes sense wait hold on i just have to go back to this you were 19 no he was 19 oh he was 19 yeah i was 15.
	We started talking.
	I was the freshman, he was a senior Jesus yeah, it was.
	Yeah, that's I mean.
	Well, that's not the kind of age gaps that we're gonna be talking about, but uh yeah, we're talking.
	Just again, to clarify, adults 18 and above could be a 25 and 35 year old.
	You know, just want to make that clear.
	Adult relationships, this is a so okay um interesting, very interesting, and so it sounded like most of you said.
	One of the examples that you guys gave was uh, like a 27 year old dating an 18 year old.
	That is a bit you look at that, even though you know they're both legally adults.
	You do look at that in a bit of a strange way.
	And is that only in the direction of a man dating a woman, or would you also similarly look, a woman dating a man?
	Not so much you putting yourself in that position of I wouldn't want to date a guy who's younger just because he's immature, but just from you're looking at it from the outside and saying that's kind of, is it creepy for a 27 year old woman to be dating an 18 year old?
	Yeah yeah, I think.
	Yes, it's like both ways double standard, I think, if you're a woman and dating a younger guy.
	It's it's like the same as a guy dating a younger girl.
	It's it's both ways, okay.
	So you guys have all heard the term cougar.
	Yeah yeah right, so so that the cougar scenario.
	No bueno, I feel like cougars are like mid 30s and above, though.
	Yeah, like 35 plus.
	If you're 27 and dating someone that's 18, like a teenager still yeah, that's a child, It's still a child.
	Not a technique.
	It's still a child.
	Let's not say a lot.
	Technically not a child, but like he's legal.
	Or he or she is legal, but like not experienced life yet.
	Yeah.
	Like right out of high school.
	But I mean, I think we can all agree here in terms of maturity.
	Age doesn't always necessarily dictate maturity because I'm sure you guys have met a lot of guys, probably, you know, some girls too, that are your age or older, and you're like, this motherfucker's immature.
	Yeah, definitely.
	So yeah.
	While we, Eric, can we have you pull up a video?
	We're going to react to a video.
	So you're going to just hit control tab.
	Okay.
	Before you play it, Eric, this is a video.
	I don't know how many of you are familiar with Mr. Andrew Tate.
	Oh, no.
	Very controversial individual.
	Oh, very funny individual.
	Maybe you've seen him on TikTok.
	Yeah.
	And he this is appearance he did a couple months ago on your mom's house podcast.
	Very funny podcast.
	This is one of his, I think, one of his more interesting interviews he's done.
	Eric, I think you're going to have to probably boost the audio on the keyboard.
	Boost it up to like 60, I think.
	Hold on.
	Let me just do a little soundboard test.
	Boost it up to 70 for us.
	Sorry, guys, we're doing it live.
	We're still figuring this out.
	70?
	Okay, go ahead and play.
	Then we're just going to hear.
	Oh, actually, before you play it, in chat, if the audio on this is messed up, just let us know.
	One in chat if the audio is good, I guess, or bad.
	I just gave you mixed instructions.
	One or two.
	One in chat if the audio is good.
	Two in chat if the audio is bad.
	I think you just need to press the space bar to go ahead and play it, Eric.
	You know what's so attractive about younger women?
	Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
	I don't actually think it's that.
	I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you get married, you'd be together, whatever, whatever.
	In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
	I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
	How many men have fun?
	If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
	I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
	And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
	Like, well, my last man cheat.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Like, I don't care.
	Like, why is that my problem?
	So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
	They've had more fucking rides, more spins.
	I don't want that shit.
	When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
	And also, no, but no, but the truth is, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
	If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall.
	It is unattractive, too.
	And it's unattractive, isn't it?
	But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
	Or is she going to think, you know what?
	He talked to me, Rudolph, let's go get a new guy.
	Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you, be a better partner.
	The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
	You know what?
	This is the guy.
	I like him.
	Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
	Women fall in love with the person.
	They lose their virginity too, or their second or third guy.
	They really remember them.
	They really love them.
	Anyone who slept with 50 dudes she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
	She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
	She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
	She's more likely to just say, you know what new answer is, new dick.
	That's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
	Let me make something clear.
	If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
	That's pretty fucking old.
	Yeah 30, I know what are you crazy?
	I there's been times I was drunk okay, that's it.
	You can bring it back.
	Uh Eric, he's an idiot okay, so Let's hear your guys' take on that, Rafaela.
	Yeah, very controversial, I would say.
	I don't agree with what he's saying.
	I mean, I need to think about this.
	Because like, also, he's obviously, like, over 30.
	I believe Andrew Tate is 35.
	Yeah, he's probably stuck with a lot of people.
	And I don't know.
	Like, I need to think about this more.
	So it is.
	This actually touched on the conversation we had our last show.
	So he kind of goes into body count too a little bit there.
	We can maybe talk about that later, but why don't you go ahead and give me your take?
	So, I mean, so he's saying that, like, the reason why he likes younger girls is because they're more likely to be loyal.
	They have less trauma, less heartbreak.
	They've hooked up with less people.
	But you know what?
	Like, if a girl has had one boyfriend that, yeah, she like lost her virginity to and she was in love with and he cheated on her and he broke her heart, she's going to have the same amount of trauma as any other girl that's talked to a bunch of guys.
	So I don't think there's that much validity to what he's saying.
	It could be both, though.
	It could be both.
	She's had a long-term relationship, got destroyed by her boyfriend, and then also just had 100 partners.
	Yeah, it could be like this one girl has used to not committing to anyone, so maybe she has commitment issues, but maybe this other girl who's been with one guy and been heartbroken also has extreme trust issues because of that one guy.
	She's traumatized by that one guy versus one girl is traumatized by many dudes, but it could be the same trauma and same trust issues, you know?
	So I don't think there's that much validity to what he's saying, you know?
	That's my opinion.
	Yeah, I feel like it's like a little bit hypocritical.
	Like it's like if the girl's been doing whatever and she's older and she's been hooking up with all these guys, whatever, and she has all this trauma, but like the guy's older, he might have done the same thing.
	So you guys are at the same level, so you guys should know what maybe both of you have like been through and understand each other maybe to a level.
	I don't think that like your body count and stuff like that goes into account of like trauma and everything else.
	I think everyone has like experiences that lead them to the way they are.
	For example, I broke up with my ex-boyfriend in high school and I had what I call like a little ho phase where I was just like, you know, on apps and like trying to meet someone that's going to take the edge or whatever.
	And it was like through that that I like gained my confidence because I was able to like stand up for myself and really see what I want in a relationship, what I don't want in a relationship.
	So like that's kind of my take on that.
	But I do get like the validity thing is like it goes both ways.
	I have to think about this.
	Gabby.
	Just like what Vena said, it's very hypocritical because he's what 35 and he's also had that like same experience or like has had a lot of experiences maybe.
	So it is like very hypocritical.
	And also like if you meet someone and you like really love them, you don't like you shouldn't take that into account for, you know, like if someone has trauma, don't really like push them away for that.
	Like if you really love them, you would want to work through it with it with them.
	But I mean, it seems to me like what he's saying as far as the trauma goes is he wouldn't even let it go anywhere if a girl's coming in and she's got she's bringing a ton of baggage from her past relationship.
	But so you are you saying you would object to that component of it?
	Object to well, he's basically saying, Hey, well, one of the things he says is if a woman's bringing past relationship baggage to his new relationship, that's an issue.
	But you're saying we should be more understanding.
	Is that what you're saying?
	We should be more understanding and yeah, like if you really love her, you should be more understanding.
	But I mean, you don't immediately love someone when you first meet them, for example, right?
	I guess that is true.
	Like, if a guy came to you that you were single, are you single currently?
	Okay, a guy, he was torn up about his last ex, you're gonna, you're gonna feel like you might not want to take this guy seriously, right?
	Because, I mean, at least my take on it is when you meet somebody new, I think both people should have worked through their stuff and then they can because it's not good to go into a relationship with baggage.
	If you're still dwelling on your ex, I don't think that you should be trying to meet new people.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I mean, don't a lot of people, though, try to get over relationships by meeting somebody new.
	Do not agree with that.
	I'm not saying they should, but a lot of people do.
	But yeah, but like, then that's just hurting someone else.
	Like, if you're trying to get over someone and get under someone, like, that's just hurting the other person.
	Like, you're creating more chain of events that are like bad.
	But I feel like you also have to think about it.
	Like, we're thinking about it as a female perspective.
	Like, yeah, of course, we don't want to get hurt.
	Of course, we don't want someone.
	But, like, at the same time, they do the same thing to us, and we allow it.
	Like, and we don't know that that's happening sometimes.
	Who's they?
	Men.
	Men.
	Boys.
	Men.
	Correct it.
	Boys.
	Boys.
	No, they're not men.
	Little bitch boys.
	Yeah.
	So it's, I don't know.
	That was, I don't know, something I had an input.
	It's like, I feel like we think a lot about like us.
	Like, of course, we don't want to be that person on the receiving end where like a, you know, we're getting, like, a guy's getting over their ex-girlfriend with us or whatever, but they do it to us.
	Okay.
	Let me put it this way.
	Like, each, okay, so both parties going into a relationship should not, should be fully healed, you know, from their past.
	You know, they might still have a little bit of trust issues, but that's something if it gets serious that you guys work through together.
	But I also don't think like body count and how many people you've been with has no account into that.
	It should not matter.
	It should not matter.
	Like, body count shouldn't matter.
	No.
	As long as you are healthy, loyal, and respectful and clean.
	Yeah.
	I asked ad.
	Like, it should not matter at all.
	Does everyone agree?
	Yeah.
	Body count should not be a consideration when choosing a partner.
	No.
	If you're going into a mature relationship.
	I agree with you.
	I mean, the past is.
	Yeah.
	So the past is the past.
	Is that what you're about to say?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Would you date a guy who previously slept with prostitutes?
	If he's clean, he has to be clean.
	Okay.
	The past is the past.
	Like multiple, a dozen prostitutes.
	It's just, it'd be questionable because I would wonder why he would feel the need to pay to have sex.
	Like, why he couldn't, like, did he feel that he couldn't find that without having to pay for it?
	Well, it is harder for men to get sex than it is for women.
	Yes, it is.
	Does anyone disagree with that one?
	This is like the second conversation I've had about this.
	This like topic.
	My boyfriend and I have gone through this topic so much.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and I've gotten so mad at him.
	So you, you, what's his take?
	What's your boyfriend's take?
	That like, okay, you know, the like lock and key saying like there's one certain key to unlock the here.
	You want me to deliver it.
	I'm gonna deliver it.
	So a lock that opens too many keys is a shitty lock, but a key that opens many locks is a master key.
	Yeah.
	So that's what he says.
	Yes.
	I didn't say that.
	Your boyfriend.
	I was just quoting your boyfriend.
	And so, but you disagree with that.
	I mean, if they can run through girls, why can't like girls have fun as well?
	I'm like, mind you, I have a body count of two.
	So I'm just sticking up for the people that live their life.
	If you are clean, you are healthy, you're respectful and loyal.
	It doesn't matter what you do in your past.
	As long as you get into a relationship, you are loyal to that man and that man only.
	Yeah.
	Well, so there are two different things there.
	So you were saying how initially we were talking about who has an easier time getting laid.
	Oh.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And then what was the other piece?
	And then like the body count of like so he did say that like women do get a lot of more attention than guys.
	And you disagree with that.
	I mean he said that like if a woman on average of like I don't know ranking of a six and then a man of a six as well DM 50 people majority of the guys would respond to the girl and then the girls would not kind of respond to the guy.
	And you said if it's like a six.
	Yeah, you know like an average good-looking male or female just DMing 50 people.
	He said that the girls would get responsible.
	That guy, he's going to be left on red.
	He's not even getting a high back.
	Nobody talking.
	Maybe a lot of people has like gotten a DM from a guy that you don't, like you don't know, but he's sliding into your DMs.
	Like, okay, like saying like, do you want to fuck?
	Or just being like, hey, beautiful, hi.
	Or just like.
	All the time.
	All the time.
	Why don't we just go around the table, like just estimate, like how many guys who you don't know, or maybe acquaintances or maybe have a class have DM'd you?
	And it was clear as kind of a romantic interest sort of thing.
	Over 100, just over 100.
	In general, like ever.
	All time.
	Oh, all the time.
	Pull up the Instagram number.
	I know.
	The unknown, like.
	Yeah, following the hidden requests.
	Yeah.
	Hundreds, like, of all time ever.
	Like, you know, probably definitely like hundreds.
	You know, some of them are bots.
	It's all on social media, too, for the majority of them.
	Why don't we just go around the table really quickly?
	Just like if it's over 100, just say if it's over 100.
	Gabby?
	I would say over 100 of all time, yeah.
	Probably over 100.
	Over 100.
	That goes.
	Over 100.
	Anyone over, should we bump it to 1,000?
	I don't know.
	Let's just say over 100.
	Over 100.
	Over 100, yeah.
	Over 100.
	Over 100.
	Over 100 for 100.
	Over 100.
	Okay.
	So unless, I would say, unless you're like really good-looking guy, using your rating scale, let's say a nine out of ten.
	Ain't no girls DMing guys.
	I'm just have, okay, let me flip it.
	How many guys have you DM'd?
	Oh.
	That like you're sliding into their DMs.
	Let's start here.
	And do they have a blue check?
	Yes, I think it was only one that I. Timothy Chalamet?
	No.
	Admit it.
	No, but he told me.
	No, it was actually Pierce Brosnan's son.
	And he responded.
	And this is when I was like 17.
	But yeah, I slid in his DMs on Instagram.
	How old was he?
	He was also 17.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Saved.
	Wait, so he responded.
	And that was the sole one guy that you did.
	My channel is the only time I've DM'd a guy.
	100% success rate.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, I'm actually a fan of sliding into guys' DMs.
	Like, I'm pretty confident, and like, I don't care about shooting my shot because I'm not going to lie, most of the time it's successful.
	I definitely have slid in some TikTokers' DM.
	This one, he was, he's got like 10K.
	He like, he's followed by like Vinnie Hacker and stuff.
	He actually responded and like started sliding up on my stuff.
	Definitely a few athletes.
	Sliding up into your.
	Oh, you're talking about Instagram still.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, so like I slid into his DMs and he actually responded.
	I didn't think he was going to respond.
	And then you slid into his, then it was Emi Achool, yeah.
	He would like respond and now he like still slides into mine once in a while.
	Have you guys met up?
	No, we haven't.
	What do you he lives in Oregon?
	So like he was in LA.
	He was in LA like over the summer.
	But I was still in school.
	So like I was just too busy.
	But he wanted to like meet up and like everything.
	And I've also like slid into a few athletes' DMs before.
	Any responses?
	Yeah, a few responses.
	Athletes?
	Yeah.
	Blue checks?
	I do know a blue check, but I know him.
	You don't have to name him.
	It's not from, I know him personally.
	We are from the same hometown.
	So I've known him for like four years and I knew him before he was a pro athlete.
	Basketball player?
	Football.
	Football?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so, but it sounds like you've messaged, initiated a few DMs on Instagram.
	Yes, I have.
	And you've gotten some responses.
	Have you ever been left on red?
	I have.
	Okay, but it sounds like what?
	50%?
	No, more like 70% success rate.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I mean, I've slid into like a handful of guys' DMs.
	Okay.
	I feel like my success rate is probably like 90%.
	Here, just move this a little closer.
	They like, I feel like most of the time they respond, even if they're like going to cut off the conversation or something later, they'll still respond.
	So, just curious, so you DM a guy, what do you say?
	That could be interesting to have everyone go around.
	It's usually like a story slide up or something.
	I don't know if I've ever just gone and been like, hey, hi.
	So you're not even saying it.
	No, typing words.
	It's like just an emoji reaction.
	No, I'll type words, but it's still like a swipe up from a story.
	It's never like I go on their page, click message, and like.
	And then the guy responds.
	He'll pick up the burden from there.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And then from there, like, what are you hoping to get?
	Are you trying to date this guy?
	You want to hook up?
	Like, what are you angling for?
	I don't think there's that much intention behind it.
	I think it's just like, I think you're cool.
	I'm going to see what's going on here.
	And that's it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And what about just YouTube really quick again?
	So when you did message guys, what did you say?
	Just hi?
	So I have like slid up on stories and stuff, but that one guy I gave an example of, I was like, oh, hey, King, I think you're cute.
	Like, here's my number.
	You called him King?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't really remember what I said.
	It was probably so cringy.
	I was 17 at the time.
	So I think I said something like, I don't know, along the lines, like, hey, cutie, you're cute.
	Something like that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And that was the Pierce Brosnan's son?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I think we just doxed him, but okay.
	I know.
	Maybe you shouldn't have said that because people can probably find him.
	Wow.
	And Pierce Brosnan, 007.
	Okay.
	Let's go on this side.
	So the question is: have you ever slid into a guy's DM?
	And if so, what did you say?
	Well, the DM I sent is why I'm in a relationship.
	So, well, it was more of like I wanted him to come on my podcast.
	And so I never met him.
	He was into fitness, and I wanted some more like fitness enthusiasts.
	And so I DM'd him, and he came on, and we met, and it went from there.
	Yeah, but it wasn't anything like, hey, Psyche.
	Hey, how are you?
	Like, we had already been mutually sending each other messages.
	But yeah, that's cute.
	Yeah, the only DMs that I ever sent were like on TikTok.
	And then I would go onto their Instagram and be like, hey, you're cute.
	You should message me.
	Or like, hey, like, just like something stupid.
	But I'm in a relationship, and the only DM I DM is my boyfriend.
	So wait, you and your boyfriend, you had DM'd him?
	No.
	Or you met him in person?
	Yeah, I met him in person.
	We went to the same school.
	Got it.
	Gabby?
	I'm going to be honest, I don't think I really have slid into somebody's DMs like that.
	So, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I'm just scared.
	You're scared.
	Why?
	Of rejection?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I just don't really do it.
	I let people DM me or come to me.
	I was like, there's enough in the DMs.
	You probably have a large enough pool to kind of select from the guys that are coming to you, right?
	Be it in person, because I don't know if you go to parties or, you know, whatever.
	Or just.
	Who here is on a dating app currently?
	Anybody?
	Nobody?
	No.
	No.
	Nobody's on the dating app.
	Nope.
	No.
	Stop the cap.
	Somebody's on the dating app.
	Hey, no shame.
	I mean, I still have my old dating apps, but I haven't deleted.
	Farmers, farmers only.
	Just like Tinder and like Hinge Bell.
	Christian Mingle.
	Christian.
	That's a good one, right?
	Yeah.
	My accounts are active, but the app is gone.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	But you've been on dating apps at some point.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We've kind of meandered slightly.
	So we were talking a bit about the ease in which with both genders can get laid.
	I think that's kind of where we initiated, well, what we've just established, exhibit A, in saying that it's generally, I would say, it's a bit easier for y'all.
	Yes.
	So, but you, you disagree.
	No, I mean, I agreed with him on that part.
	Oh, you agree?
	But it sounds like you disagreed.
	Oh, but you were upset about maybe by the double standard.
	Yeah, of like, if guys can hoe out, why can't girls?
	As long as you're literally clean.
	That's the whole point.
	Like, just live your life.
	If you have a pass, okay, cool.
	But now you're getting into this relationship and you're going to stay loyal.
	You're healthy.
	What's the problem?
	Yeah.
	I agree.
	It's all about the current situation mindset.
	Why are you dwelling on the past?
	And I forgot if I went around on this.
	So everyone here thinks body count doesn't matter.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I disagree.
	I disagree.
	I think it does matter.
	This is kind of what we talked about on our last show.
	So, I mean.
	Okay, tell me your viewpoint.
	A couple of examples of me and my boyfriend, though.
	So, let me think here.
	So, the first one is kind of obvious, but it always seems to be avoided in this discussion, is STDs.
	If someone's more promiscuous, they have a higher likelihood of having an STD.
	Now, it's certainly the case that someone could have had sex one time, the very first time they have sex, they lose their virginity, they get herpes.
	I suppose it's possible.
	I think it's unlikely, but if you've had more partners, the fact of the matter is, there's a higher risk of you having an STD.
	If I sleep with 100 women, I'm probably more likely to get an STD than if I sleep with one.
	And vice versa, of course.
	So, there is a STD risk there, and there's curable ones and incurable ones.
	It's honestly just simply unattractive.
	And the thing is, is I think men and women are different.
	I think men and women seek out different things from the opposite sex, or I guess, well, let's just speak about heterosexual relationships.
	But in the same way that let me ask it, well, let me go ask the table.
	So, who here would prefer dating a guy that's taller than you?
	Show of hands?
	Doesn't really matter.
	Doesn't matter.
	So, you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	I mean, my boyfriend's 5'9 and I'm 5'4.
	that's a five inch different it's not like but it's Okay, fine.
	Well, I mean, even though your current boyfriend is 5'9, that doesn't necessarily preclude that you would date a guy who's shorter than you.
	No, yeah.
	But that's what I'm asking, if you would date a guy who's shorter than you.
	Yeah.
	Would you date a guy who's how tall are you?
	I mean, I'm 5'2.
	5'1.
	5'1k.
	5'1'9.
	5'1k.
	But like, no, my boy boyfriend's also, he's 5'7, I think.
	And it's like a 5-inch difference.
	Also, I've dated, I've actually dated someone a little bit shorter than me, and I didn't like it.
	So I guess you could put me in that category.
	But now I just wouldn't care, really.
	Gabby's 6'4 and above?
	She wants NBA.
	Yeah.
	No, but would you prefer to date a guy who's taller than you?
	So this is a difference between men and women.
	Most men don't really care about a girl's height.
	They do care about other physical traits, but generally speaking, most guys don't care about a girl's height, whether taller or shorter than them.
	I think some guys have most guys don't really care.
	Most guys don't care about height.
	So in that same way, the things that women find attractive in men, men may not necessarily find attractive in women and vice versa.
	And in that same way, there's some things that men might care, not all men, but men might care about in a partner that women don't care about.
	And one of those things is promiscuity and sexual purity, so to speak.
	Do you want to know more reasons why?
	You wanted to come in, so let me let you come in and then I can finish my piece.
	Okay, okay.
	So I understand wanting to know like a person's like history, I guess.
	In my opinion, like it doesn't matter.
	So say two people meet, you don't know, they're like, you know, like I don't care about like knowing my boyfriend's body count, but like what I would care about knowing is if like if he has hooked up with someone that I know or like if there is someone in the room or someone in a situation that like, you know, like if like say we're like at a party and he's hooked up with this girl, I'd want to know that.
	And like, and I'm sure he'd want to know the same thing.
	Like, you know, like if there's this person around that's like present, like that I understand wanting to know, have you hooked up with this person or not?
	You know?
	But I honestly, like, me and my boyfriend, we don't talk about body count.
	Like, I haven't told him mine.
	He has told me his, but like, I don't tell him mine and I don't care to.
	I don't think it matters.
	Like, I wouldn't have cared to known his.
	And like, that's just something that he just offered it up.
	Yeah.
	Or did you ask him?
	No, I like, I didn't ask him.
	We were just like having conversations and like he was like, oh, like, yeah, this is mine.
	I was like, okay, cool.
	Like, I don't really care to know.
	Okay.
	Just interesting point.
	Interesting point.
	Just a show of hands.
	Who here thinks body count doesn't matter?
	Shouldn't matter.
	That was a hesitant.
	I know.
	Hesitant.
	So let me ask you guys a follow-up question.
	So body count doesn't matter.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, I'm blasted.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Into the microphone, please.
	Five?
	Five.
	That's the real number?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Be honest, guys.
	Be honest with you.
	Go ahead.
	Two.
	Two.
	Yeah, you told us before, right?
	Five.
	Five.
	I'm not going to comment it.
	You're not going to tell it.
	But I thought you, hold on.
	You just said it doesn't matter.
	Well, yeah.
	So why not?
	I don't think that a person should be judged on how many people they've been with or that it should hold any weight in your current relationships and how two people feel about each other.
	You know?
	But why not say it then?
	If it doesn't matter, be the change you want to say.
	Because I don't know if my family is watching this or not.
	Okay, mom and dad, turn off the stream.
	My parents think I'm a virgin.
	Mom and dad, her chastity is intact.
	Oh my God, she's just held hands.
	That's it.
	Okay, I think they turned it off.
	Do you want to just say the number now?
	No.
	They're not watching.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Go ahead, Rafael.
	Oh, my gosh, you're putting me on the spot.
	Five.
	You know what?
	There were too many fives.
	I'm gonna be honest.
	There were too many fives.
	Hold on, I got a little sound for us.
	Multiply it by three, that's the real number.
	No.
	So 15, 15, 15, 15.
	Right?
	5, 5, 5.
	Okay.
	So, yeah.
	There's another reason why I think guys care more about body count.
	And it's actually an evolutionary biological thing.
	So, and it comes down to paternity.
	So, can you guarantee that the child is yours?
	Now, every single woman, if you have a kid, you know that's your kid.
	But that's not the case for men.
	And so, now, in the past 40 years, you know, they've figured out DNA.
	We can do paternity tests and we can determine who's the father.
	But, I mean, one, it's not, paternity tests are not automatic.
	And secondly, even though with modern science, we've worked it out, you know, there's been hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
	And men still have that innate biological hardwiring where we do feel repulsed.
	Repulsed?
	Repulsed.
	Repulsed?
	Revulsed?
	Yeah.
	By female promiscuity.
	Because someone who is promiscuous, there's a risk of the child not being yours.
	Potentially, but at the same time.
	You disagree.
	Go ahead.
	Say your piece.
	Me and you.
	Oh, wait, whoever.
	You go ahead.
	You go ahead.
	You start first.
	Well, that's okay.
	So if a woman is in a relationship with a man and they're together, and he, like, if they're in a relationship, that's just saying that he's, or she's cheating on him if he's unsure if that's his child.
	Sorry, repeat that?
	Yeah, so, okay, so if a woman is in a relationship with a man and they have a child together, assuming that's his child, and he's thinks that potentially that child is not his, and that's just assuming that she's cheating on him.
	So it's like in that sense, like if she's loyal, then why would that be like a question?
	Yeah.
	Wait, so you say, you know, like, obviously it's a biological thing that like men are repulsed by women because it's biological, right?
	Men are not repulsed by women.
	But women who like are promiscuity.
	Why can't women be repulsed by the same thing?
	I'm not saying women can't.
	I think it's stronger.
	I do think it is stronger in men because, and it's because of the paternity thing.
	So, and again, men and women do want different things.
	But, I mean, I'm not saying that women would not take issue.
	And there certainly are women who are like, you know what?
	I just wouldn't want to date a guy that was a player and fucked 100 chicks.
	In fact, we can go around the table.
	Like, would you date a guy that you knew slept with 100 guys before?
	Let's start with Gabby.
	Would I date a guy?
	Would you date a guy who has slept with 100 women before you?
	You're number 101.
	You're very special.
	Noodle and Dalmatians.
	Oh, man.
	I would have to think about this.
	What if it was an NBA player?
	I feel like if we talk about it and kind of work through it, then it wouldn't really matter as long as he's clean.
	Then yeah, maybe.
	So it wouldn't raise an eyebrow at all.
	would raise an eyebrow so we'd have to like have a conversation about it okay but yeah i mean my boyfriend does have not a hundred but he does have like a pretty high up their body count and And I mean, I'm with him.
	So your boyfriend's a legend, is what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	He dropped his crown.
	He's with you.
	You made him change his ways.
	i did um i mean i what i date someone is i i feel like my boyfriend is like a hoe on the low Well, he was a hoe on the low and like doesn't want to tell me.
	But I don't really care.
	I feel like I know who I am.
	I know I'm loyal.
	If they're secure in their loyalty, I don't think that it should be something that defines like my entire relationship.
	Your boyfriend's a hoe, is what you're saying.
	Maybe it was.
	What?
	Past tense.
	Fast tense, yeah.
	I feel like I don't care whatever he did.
	Like before we said we were exclusive.
	But like after that, that's what matters.
	I agree on that.
	You know, it's like, like if we're like talking and like then we decide we're dating, we're exclusive.
	I don't, and he's loyal to me and we decide that we feel the same way about each other and we're focused on each other.
	I don't think it matters what happened before.
	Yeah, like I say body count doesn't matter.
	And like I do believe that, I don't know, I'm like on the fence with it because I do believe like what's in the past is in the past.
	And if you're dating someone, then that's, you know, their focus is you.
	But if a guy did sleep with 100 people, I think I would be like that I was interested in.
	I don't know.
	I would, I think I'd feel weird about it.
	But then again, like I, that wouldn't be like a factor for me to not date him.
	I guess I should have framed the question differently.
	It's not like you're in a relationship with a guy and you're three months in and you're all of a sudden discovering that he previously slept with 100 people.
	It's your first meeting him and you know this guy's a player.
	You know he's run through 100 girls.
	So I mean, if you're, to me, even if I was a girl, I'd be thinking, okay, I'm interested in a long-term relationship.
	I don't want, I mean, you can do whatever you want, right?
	But if as a girl, you're like, hey, I want a long-term relationship.
	This guy's slept with 100 women before.
	Yeah.
	It depends.
	You're going to think like, yeah, this guy's a player.
	Like, you're going to feel a certain type of way about that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I can say, like, my boyfriend's hot as fuck.
	When I first met him, I was like, oh, he's probably fucked this entire city or something.
	And like, no, obviously it wasn't like that.
	But it did cross my mind.
	I was like, I wonder who, like, who is, I'm going to tell this.
	And I'm like, oh, I know who that is.
	You know, like, and it's just like, it is something that did cross my mind, honestly.
	But as I continued, you know, getting to know him, it's like his character, what defines it, not that number that I heard or whatever, you know?
	So there might be some stigma around it.
	I think maybe on both sides, like when you first meet someone, you know, like if a girl's approaching a situation, like, oh, he's a player, like, I don't know about this.
	Or like if a guy comes in and he's like, oh, she's kind of a hoe.
	Like, I don't know who she's been with.
	But, you know, it's like getting past that stigma and like getting to look outside of that and like see who the person is and how they, how you guys like treat each other.
	And it's about, it's all about the personality and the character, especially for the women.
	I mean, I know it's different for men, but like it's how you guys connect.
	And you know, if that's worth like pursuing it further, you know, so you might be willing to look past that and pursue it further if you guys connect well.
	You know, but of course there's going to be that thought the firsthand, I think, on both sides.
	Right.
	And like, I'm not saying that you can't, like, as a woman, you can't, if you want to sleep with a bunch of guys, go ahead, do it.
	That's your life.
	Live your life.
	Do what you want.
	But, and I'd also just add, both men and women, you know, you have the right to reject pretty much anyone for any reason.
	If they got, you know, it could be their sexual past.
	It could be, you know, they're not, you don't like their personality.
	You don't like their physical appearance.
	You don't like some personality trait.
	You don't like that they previously ran around in a penis costume.
	I don't know.
	Whatever it is, talking about me right there.
	My past probably of some of my videos I did probably disqualifies me.
	Like, dude, this guy did all these weird pranks and stuff.
	Okay, so let me ask this question.
	Since history doesn't matter, past doesn't matter.
	Would you guys date a guy who had previously committed multiple felonies?
	And did like, I don't know, like what?
	Did like three years in prison.
	It's his past, right?
	No, not the problem.
	Murder?
	We're talking about romantic relationships.
	Not like that type of felony.
	Let's just say he armed robbery.
	How about that?
	Will my life be in danger?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	He's like hot and spicy, but not that hot.
	Did he do it for the thrill or like to survive?
	did someone make him he really he really wanted the uh he was at a convenience store He was hungry.
	There was a bag of Doritos.
	Oh, he didn't armed robberies.
	They were totally wrong.
	And then somehow he ended up in prison for three years for stealing a bag of Doritos.
	I don't know.
	He had a banana in his pocket.
	It looked like a gun.
	Next thing you know, boom, boom, boom, arms robbery with a weapon, three years in prison.
	I mean, I would talk to him and be like, were you in a hard time?
	Like, you couldn't afford a bag of Doritos?
	Was it a ripe banana?
	Was it worth it?
	Let me ask a different question.
	Yeah, that was.
	Why don't we just go around the table?
	Would you date a guy with a criminal history?
	Same as my answer before.
	I think it just really depends on what it is.
	You're supposed to talk very differently.
	You have to be more specific.
	I'm going to just ask a different question then.
	I have an experience for that one.
	Yeah, yeah, sure.
	Go ahead.
	So I actually dated someone in jail.
	Did you have a conjugal visit?
	I was dumb enough to set up like a GoFundMe and get him out of jail.
	Oh, no.
	Because I thought he was like, he loved me and like, it was just whatever.
	And I mean, yeah, I wouldn't do it.
	It was like, it was like trying to catch up with his freedom instead of trying to catch up into a relationship.
	So it was like, I just felt like I was playing the pick-me-up girl and it was just not.
	Were you writing letters?
	Yeah, were you a penny?
	Was it like 10 years ago?
	Well, mine was phone calls.
	It was like, I had the county jail already logged into my phone every time I saw a phone, like county jail.
	SP County Jail?
	I was like, oh, that's him.
	What do you need?
	Turns out he was dating someone the entire time.
	Like, I didn't even know.
	And now the girl wants to fight me every time she sees me.
	I bet it is ill.
	Oh, geez.
	Did you know him on the outside before or you got connected when he was already in prison?
	No, I knew him on the outside already.
	You knew him in the biblical sense?
	I knew my friends.
	And then I was hanging out with him.
	Obviously, he was in the wrong crowd, so we were doing mischievous stuff together, and that's how our little relationship collided.
	So you guys met in prison?
	We might have done stuff together, yeah.
	Like you guys were crossing each other in the hallways.
	You were in the women's side.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	So like you guys were robbing liquor stores for Doritos.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Oh, no.
	So, okay, the next question is, so would you date a guy who was bisexual?
	So he's previously slept with other men?
	And he was a bottom?
	And he was a bottom?
	I like how you asked me.
	Roughly L on that.
	Yeah, I would date a guy.
	No problem, not an issue.
	Okay, sure.
	Yeah.
	Naomi?
	I think he would, but not if he was a bottom.
	No, I'm kidding.
	So if he was a top, it's really okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Veena.
	Kind of like what Naomi said.
	I don't know.
	It's just, I don't know.
	It's just weird.
	You got extra competition too.
	Not competitive.
	Yeah, you got auto seriously.
	You got to worry about that.
	I have to worry.
	Like, people will be sliding in my way from exams, and I'll be like, oh, fuck.
	Like, I was worried about the girls, and I have to be worried about the guys.
	There was this time, this is when my boyfriend and I were just starting to date.
	And he would get this, like, Snapchat from this, like, guy in the army who was gay.
	And he would be like, send me photos.
	Like, your girlfriend doesn't mind.
	And I was like, fuck.
	Excuse me.
	And he would send photos of me.
	And he would be like, yeah, like three-way.
	And I'm like, oh, my gosh.
	No.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I wouldn't mind.
	I just gotta stay away from both sides.
	It really raises complications.
	For sure.
	Gabby.
	Exactly what she said.
	I don't know.
	I don't really know because I feel like it would raise some complications.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah, what if he asked you as a female, like, hey, can you stick it in my butt?
	And you're like, oh, no.
	Yeah, if he wants to get pegged.
	Yeah.
	Then that's gay or nay.
	That's it.
	Nay.
	I don't think definitely.
	I mean, I joke about like putting on little strokes.
	You joke.
	No, but I would never.
	Because the boyfriend's in the chat.
	Can you let us know?
	What's his name?
	First, just Tristan.
	Are you in the chat?
	Do you think he's watching?
	I don't know.
	I think he's still at work.
	Tristan, tell us the truth.
	She pressured you.
	She pressured you into it.
	Okay.
	So, Vina, thoughts?
	It sounded like you kind of wanted to peg the guy.
	No, I don't think I would.
	I gotta remember that.
	Not my preference.
	Not your preference.
	Okay.
	So you don't want to just dominate a dude.
	I mean, you could still dominate, but it doesn't have to be pegging.
	Okay, so maybe some other thing.
	Okay, guys.
	Okay.
	I don't know where I was going with that, but I have a question for you, Naomi.
	Yeah.
	I should have asked this during the intros.
	How frequently do people say Naomi?
	Oh, like I moan backwards.
	Do you get that a lot?
	I haven't heard that in years.
	I actually, yeah, I don't get that a lot.
	I first heard it in like, I think like middle school and a couple times in high school.
	I haven't heard it since then, no, though.
	Oh, okay.
	Because I feel like people, that can get annoying if you have like a certain name or people who are really tall.
	Oh, you play basketball.
	You get it so much, it's annoying.
	So I was wondering with your name if it's also like everyone's like, oh, like I moan.
	No, usually I bring it up.
	Like I'm like, oh yeah, like that's my name backwards.
	Ha ha.
	But like it's not.
	I feel like sometimes people are intimidated by me.
	So like I don't think they like bring it up.
	Sure.
	We're going to read a couple super chats here.
	Let me just pull these up.
	Nemet, or sorry, nameless loser with the $5 super chat.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for the support.
	I'm 23 and have interest in a 63-year-old.
	The thought that he would most likely die much sooner than me is too big of a concern of mine to commit.
	I'm 23.
	Are you a man or a woman?
	Well, the only thing that's not.
	I think he's joking.
	I don't know if this person's joking.
	I don't know.
	23 and have interest.
	I don't think a lot of people are saying that.
	I think that's a woman.
	It's probably a woman.
	I'm asking that question.
	Or not a question, but he's going to croak soon and she's going to get it.
	No, it's a woman because he said the thought that he will be.
	Well, maybe it's a gay.
	I'm 23 and have interest in a 63-year-old.
	Okay.
	Well, yeah, I mean, that's certainly a consideration with age gap situations because if they're geriatric, maybe they don't have a long time to live.
	And then you start to have to have to think about what is the other, the young person's motivations in getting into a relationship with someone that old.
	Exactly.
	Which is probably money.
	It's got to be money, right?
	It's got to be money.
	Maybe there's some scenarios where it's love, but I mean, come on.
	Come on.
	Next super chat.
	Oh, wait.
	Sorry, can you pull that back up again?
	Not joking.
	I'm a man and another man.
	Nameless loser.
	Is it love?
	Or is it.
	Is he sugaring you?
	Age is nothing but a number.
	Word.
	All right.
	Next super chat.
	Solo TV84.
	Thank you for the $5 super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	A key that opens many locks is a master key, yet a lock that is opened by many keys is a crappy lock to miss blonde.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so that's, I think I kind of, I think I went over that, but word.
	Let me get you here.
	Solo TV84.
	Word.
	Okay, Stephen Krug.
	Hey, man, we missed you last stream.
	Where were you, dude?
	Good to see you again, though.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Much appreciated.
	Thank you for the support.
	Women are incentivized for a high body count, for a high body count, because it could be perceived she's ultra desirable.
	Men are incentivized by low body count, ultra-desirable women at some point.
	Stephen Krug, have you been hitting the whiskey?
	The wax pen.
	The whiskey a little bit.
	By the way, Stephen, are you from Santa Barbara?
	Because you mentioned something about UCSB the previous stream.
	But at some point, too many partners is negative.
	Women are incentivized.
	Can anyone parse what this means?
	Sorry.
	I love you, Stephen, but I'm just trying to parse what you mean here.
	Women are incentivized for a high body count in a man.
	That's what he's saying.
	Wait, no, but he's saying be perceived she's ultra-desirable.
	Men are incentivized by low body count, ultra-desirable women.
	I think he meant to say he's ultra-desirable.
	So women don't necessarily take issue with a guy who is promiscuous or has had a lot of sexual partners because that means that a bunch of other women have picked him.
	He's probably more sex.
	Well, not necessarily, but he could be better in bed.
	He's more sexually experienced.
	And I think that could be an interesting question.
	Let's open that up to the panel.
	So I think most men wouldn't have a huge issue dating a woman who is sexually experienced.
	In other words, she might not be really know as well as what she's doing in bed.
	Whereas I think it's a much bigger deal for women.
	If the guy doesn't know what he's doing in bed, it's a bit more of a deal breaker.
	Why don't we open it up to the panel?
	Let's start with Gabby.
	So are you asking if it's a deal breaker if they're not experienced?
	So I'm asking, like, yeah, would it be an issue for you if the guy was inexperienced in bed?
	Let's say we could also just frame this as, would you want to sleep, hook up with, or date a virgin?
	I wouldn't mind if you're a virgin now.
	You wouldn't mind dating a virgin.
	Okay.
	Same.
	I've had someone ask me if I could take their virginity and I had to decline simply because I didn't want to be that person.
	I don't know.
	You know, they fall in love with you regardless of whether they're like, oh no, I'll block out my emotions.
	You'll fall in love.
	Like, it's your first time having sex.
	Like, you're gonna fall in love or not fall in love, but you know, have some sort of like strings attached to it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, I, if it's not a relationship that I see I'm gonna, you know, be long-term with, wait, can you, like, specify, like, is it just like a hookup?
	Like, take someone virginity, or like, I'm gonna date this man.
	Both.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	If it's just a hookup, no.
	But if I'm gonna date him, then I can be like, okay, well, this is what I like.
	So, you know.
	So, if it's just a hookup, you want it to be good.
	But if you see something being long-term, then you'd be willing.
	Then you would be willing to like show him.
	Yeah.
	That wouldn't be a turnoff for you to, like, have to show a guy how to fuck you.
	No.
	Really?
	No, because you can tell him what you want.
	And, like, if you're looking for a long-term relationship, he'll learn what he wants.
	I guess you don't want to actually teach someone how to do it.
	But if it's a long-term relationship and you see an outcome out of it, like, why not teach him what you like?
	Yeah.
	Gabby, can we have you move the microphone a bit this way?
	To your left.
	Move it, scoot it to your left a bit more, a bit more?
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	Veena?
	I agree.
	I don't think I would hook up with someone that hasn't had any experience, but I would date someone that doesn't have any experience.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't do either.
	Why?
	Well, for me, I think like, well, I have my own sexual preferences.
	And like, just for me, that wouldn't be like ideal.
	And like, I also like, I would prefer the guy to have at least a little bit of experience.
	Like, doesn't mean he has to have been with a lot of people.
	Or like someone who's just experienced it by, like, say he's been with one person, but he was in a relationship.
	Like, I'd want him to, like, to be able to take the lead.
	You know, that's just my preference.
	I don't think I would.
	When you say preferences, are you talking like BDSM, 50 Shades of Gray?
	No, no, just like.
	Because definitely a virgin ain't pulling that out of the village.
	No, no, no, nothing crazy.
	Let me just fucking tie you off on all this shit.
	No, like nothing crazy, but like.
	You'd want a guy who's leads, who's dominant.
	Yeah, like in both aspects, like personality, or not personality, but like just like the romance section in general.
	You know, like I want a guy to take the lead, you know?
	Sure.
	So I don't think, and that's my preference in relationships, so I don't think a virgin would be able to fulfill that for me.
	Okay.
	I think I would both hook up and date someone that's a virgin.
	I mean, I don't really hook up with guys anymore.
	So I like don't really know if I into the microphone?
	What's that?
	Oh, just into the microphone.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I don't think being inexperienced means you wouldn't necessarily like know how to have sex because I think you just learn in the moment.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	I think it definitely does help, but I don't know.
	Also, like you're like, you say like you would like teach like a virgin like how to do whatever, like your preferences and stuff.
	But even when you're like dating someone new, even if they have experience, they don't know what you like still.
	So you still have to teach them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's a fair point.
	That is a fair point.
	Certainly, I think there is a period of both people are learning what the other person likes and what they don't like.
	So actually, I think that's a very good point.
	I agree with that.
	But overall, overall, this is an interesting panel.
	I almost feel like you guys are just intentionally, I could be wrong, intentionally changing up your answers just a bit, right?
	What?
	You know, just to almost like, you're almost playing devil's advocate against the questions I'm asking, just to kind of like a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
	I don't know.
	Everybody.
	No, I mean, these are just my opinions.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Okay, so let's tie this back to we've kind of meandered quite a bit.
	Yeah.
	So, and that sort of stemmed from our discussion on promiscuity, body count, doesn't matter.
	One of the things that generally I think guys, yes, I think if you ask most guys, they'd probably prefer a girl who has a lower body count versus a higher body count.
	And, but kind of one of the things we got into was, well, what about sexual experience and how does that play into it?
	I think for a lot of guys, if she's, if the girl is inexperienced, that's like a big deal for them, my food.
	Wait, wait.
	Do you guys prefer, like, if girls are less experienced?
	Is that like a turn on for them?
	I think so.
	And it's just a turn on that if a girl's been with less men too.
	But I mean, from just the experience place, I mean, if as a guy, I guess it would depend.
	If you're maybe inexperienced yourself as a guy, and maybe you're more submissive and you actually prefer the girl to kind of be more dominant in the bedroom, then you'd probably be a bit more okay with it.
	But I think a lot of guys, I think a lot of guys do prefer to be a bit more leading, dominant.
	And so in that case, if you know how to navigate and lead, then if she's inexperienced, then she can just defer to your leadership and she'll kind of go along with the flow.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Word.
	I can see that.
	I can see how that's true.
	Yeah.
	So I'm trying to remember where we were.
	Oh, we got one more super chat.
	Let me just bang it out while I have it here.
	Solo TV84 with a $2 super chat.
	Miss Blonde is an undercover freak.
	I mean, I asked her about the 50 Shades of Gray thing.
	Do you want to just go into it?
	Because Solo TV84 here is very curious.
	$2 curious.
	Yeah, $2 curious.
	I don't know if I can talk about that on camera.
	Maybe.
	What about broadly speaking?
	Can you talk about your preferences broadly speaking?
	She has a boyfriend, don't you?
	Yeah, I do.
	Oh, you got a boyfriend.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But I'll say my boyfriend definitely fits my sexual preferences.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Like, what's your question?
	Do you mean just like when you say sexual preferences, do you mean just the type of partner you have?
	Or do you mean when you're actually getting frisky?
	I like a man who's like dominant enough that I can fit, like, like grow more into my feminine energy.
	Okay.
	You know, like, I like a man to take the lead, you know?
	And that way I can, because, you know, I'm a hyper, I, there's psychology behind this.
	I'm a hyper-independent woman, so I'm in control all the time.
	I always have to be.
	So when it comes to my relationships, I like it when he takes the lead and I can step back from the driver's seat.
	So that's a way that I can put it.
	And so you said in real life, you're like very go-getter, boss bitch type of thing.
	Yeah.
	And so are you in school right now or are you working?
	Yeah, I'm both.
	And so remind me, what's your major?
	I'm a global studies major.
	And what do you do for, don't tell us where you work, but just tell us what you do for work.
	I'm a waitress.
	You're a waitress.
	When you're waiting, that's when you're in your just very on top of my, yeah, I'm very on top of my shit.
	I know what I do.
	I know what I do well.
	I um I like work 24-7.
	I did school Monday through Fridays, did work Friday through Sundays.
	Like, I'm always on my shit.
	Boss, bitch.
	Yeah.
	Always on your shit.
	Okay.
	Because I've heard that when it comes to like service jobs or when you're being a waiter, there is a component of you are sort of switching personalities.
	You're kind of being like, I don't know what the right word is, supplicating a little bit to the people at the table.
	Like, oh, hi, how are you?
	Oh, you know what?
	So it is kind of that.
	So I'm just trying to kind of wrap my head around a bit more what you mean in terms of your work.
	In every job, you have to.
	So it's like, it's just like the, yeah, serving definitely is very, like, people are very cut throat and you kind of have to be able to just take it.
	Like, I have really tough skin.
	People will say, like, you can ask Raft to, people will say the craziest stuff, and you just put your head down.
	I'm like, okay, I'm so sorry about that.
	Let me see what I can do for you.
	Turn your head around.
	You're like, oh my God, this table.
	Yeah.
	Did you two work together?
	Yeah, we do.
	My boyfriend works with us as well.
	Oh, okay.
	It's like a sitcom there.
	Dude, the service industry is a reality TV show.
	I'm telling you.
	They need a camera in the kitchen because it goes down.
	Yeah, what are you guys doing back in the kitchen?
	Oh my God, the cooks are insane.
	Well, that's what I've heard.
	Yeah, like all the cooks are Hispanic, and like I understand Spanish and they say some crazy stuff.
	Do you speak Spanish?
	I do speak Spanish.
	Can you just give a few examples of what they say?
	For our Spanish viewers.
	Well, like every day I walk in the kitchen, they're like, hola mi a mor.
	And then one time this one cook, he was like, he's like, he's like, tienes ambre, quiere escarne.
	Like, you want meat?
	You want my meat?
	And I was like, oh, like, do you have to do that?
	Yeah.
	Like, just stuff like that.
	Or like, yeah, just that type of thing.
	Very, like, crazy.
	Inappropriate.
	Sounds like sexual harassment.
	No, it is.
	It low-key is.
	But you give that, you just give them the pass because you're like, whatever.
	No.
	Some people don't get offended by that sort of thing.
	Sometimes I'll just be like, I mean, it's like hard.
	Give and take, maybe.
	You kind of give back a little bit.
	You're like, yeah, no, I'll literally talk to him.
	I'm like, demon, like, don't tell me anything.
	Like, you know?
	Like, leave me be.
	Yeah.
	It's so inappropriate what they say symptoms.
	They stopped.
	Like, some of them just like stop talking when they do that.
	Yeah.
	I was just like, that's just not okay.
	I was like, you need to relax.
	Yeah.
	There's definitely some shit that goes down in the kitchen, though.
	Yeah.
	It gets out of line sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Rock and roll.
	We got one more super chat here from Mr. Stephen Krug.
	Thank you again for the $10 super chat.
	Stephen, really appreciate it.
	Men want women with a lower body count.
	I think he's maybe rephrasing his previous super chat.
	Men want women with lower body count because it's more likely the woman is reliable for childcare, evolutionarily speaking.
	With contraception, the balance has changed, may cause population decline.
	Thank you for the super chat, Stephen.
	Do you guys want to comment on that at all?
	Intake?
	It is true that there is a population decline because there are more contraceptives and more people are wanting to have kids less and less.
	But with contraception, I think people's mindsets have changed around having kids.
	But I also don't think that relates to how good a mother someone would be as well.
	Yeah, I don't think that relates to childcare, like being reliable for childcare if you have a lower body count.
	Yeah, like how does that relate to that?
	He's trying to take not even in the scene.
	He might be, I'm not sure if he's talking about paternity.
	Yeah, I was gonna say maybe in the essence of like wondering if that's my kid type of thing.
	Yeah, but other than that, I don't think.
	Like being a good mother, I don't think relates at all to how your body counts.
	Gabby, I know you're burning to answer this one.
	I don't really understand what he's trying to say.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, so I think basically I think essentially what he's saying is that maybe men would view women with a lower body count.
	They might just be better mothers.
	Maybe?
	Because it's more likely the woman is reliable for childcare.
	But that has no correlation.
	I'm not really.
	Yeah.
	Evolution with contraception, the balance has changed.
	But like, what's a low body count to certain people?
	Well, I guess it depends on your age, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess.
	Yeah.
	So.
	In your opinion, I'm curious.
	Yeah.
	So like if a 22-year-old you were talking to, what is a certain body count that you're just like, okay.
	Like give us more than a certain number.
	So it obviously depends on age, right?
	So I think you'd certainly, someone who's been sexually active for 10 or 20 years, you'd give them a bit more leeway.
	Whereas if someone's only been sexually active for three weeks and they already have 10 bodies, you're going to be like, okay, you went on a tear there.
	So it kind of depends.
	Honestly, I think the lower the better.
	But again, we live in 2022.
	So it's just kind of like promiscuity is on the rise.
	Dating apps, that shit is easier than ever for women.
	Well, it's opened the door a bit for men, but I think like, so they've actually done studies on this on the dating apps.
	And so basically what you have happening on dating apps, and this was happening a bit to a lesser degree in the real world, but on dating apps, basically 80% of the women are after 20% of the men on dating apps.
	And what you also have is women rate, and there was a study that OKCupid did, which is like a dinosaur dating app.
	It's like a dating site at one point.
	80%, I think, I'm trying to remember the exact wording, but most women on OKCupid rated 80% of the men as unattractive.
	Unattractive.
	I heard about that.
	And we can actually open this up to the panel.
	Like, of the, maybe we can, I'm not sure exactly how I want to frame this.
	Let's say of the guys that you see on a day-to-day basis, what percentage of them would you say that you find attractive?
	Gabby.
	Guys on a day-to-day basis.
	Yeah, or even on dating apps.
	Like, what percentage of the guys that you see on dating apps would you say you find attractive?
	Or in real life?
	Percentage?
	I'd say like 60, 70%.
	70% are attractive.
	You hear that, gentlemen.
	Her DMs are open.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	In dating apps, or because I don't have any dating apps.
	I've never had.
	Oh, you've never had?
	Okay.
	Wow.
	okay i feel like that's uh i've never had tinder bumble christian mingle Farmers only.
	Farmers only never had that.
	Yeah.
	It'd actually be very interesting to see what is the percentage of people who've had a dating app versus who haven't.
	I think it's probably the majority of people at, you know, let's say of dating age, so let's say 18, 19, have had a dating app.
	And when I say majority, I mean over 50%.
	But okay, what about you?
	I don't know.
	I'm a personality gal.
	So it's like, if I'm on, or when I was on Tinder, I know 99.9% of the guys on there only want to fuck.
	Like, you could be as handsome as you are, but I know you probably only want to fuck.
	Like, if obviously it's like the way you approach me, the way you send me a message is also like a key.
	But I just feel like I don't think you're attractive until you show me your personality.
	And that's just how I've been and how I am.
	Yeah.
	Vina?
	I'm going to say like 50.
	I feel like just like physically 50 because there's all the other things that could like bring it up.
	For me, like I used to have a very specific type and like I've mostly only been on Tinder like in Santa Barbara.
	Like there's not a lot of my type here.
	So I would say like only like 20% was attracted to me.
	Like I'm usually swiping left most of the time and then once in a while I'll see one that's like, okay, yeah, he's attractive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Same thing for me.
	I feel like in Santa Barbara, I don't really see guys that I'm attracted to.
	Like it's actually very rare, I think, that like I see someone on the street.
	I think that he's cute.
	I would say like 2%.
	Like it's very rare that I see someone who's a little bit more.
	No, I mean that's that's totally fair.
	Yeah.
	You mentioned that you had a very specific type.
	What do you mean by that?
	So like, I mean, like she was saying, I also am like a huge personality person.
	Like my boyfriend is like the exception.
	Like he's not more normal type.
	But like, so I'm all about personality.
	But if we're just going off of looks, I do tend to like go toward a specific like type, you know?
	So what does that mean?
	So my type or like, my type, like historically, has always been like Latino men, like I like brown curly hair, like someone that's at least taller than me.
	But I love if they speak Spanish.
	Wait, how tall are you?
	I'm like 5'7.
	5'7?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So if they're like six foot or above and they have like brown curly hair and they're like Latino, I'm like complete opposite intact.
	I know, it's so funny.
	So like that has typically been like, if I see a guy like that, I'm like, wow, you're hot as fuck.
	Like, you know, but like if his personality is shit, I'm like, okay, never mind.
	Is Bruno Mars Latino?
	No.
	Or is he black?
	I think both.
	I don't know if he's a bad person.
	I'm trying to think of like a famous actor that would be your, is there like.
	Definitely not Bruno Mars.
	That's the first thing that came up.
	He's not, he's black?
	I don't know.
	I thought he was six.
	Actually, he might be like.
	But so, like, is there like a famous person that you can think of that falls into that archetype, archetype?
	I don't know.
	Who's that?
	Who's that guy who's saved by the bell?
	Mario?
	Mario I mean like that you're more Mario Lopez, yeah.
	You're more on dimple.
	Yeah, but like He's handsome Yeah, he's good-looking.
	I was more on track, but like, I don't know.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to think.
	Also, I have a huge thing for him.
	And what's your type, Miss 2%?
	My type.
	I love, I mean, again, also same thing, like personality.
	Like, I wouldn't, like, I would date someone that's not my type in that sense.
	Like, I like I am first attracted to someone who typically blonde, blue eyes, tall, like, very Swedish, Scandinavian-esque.
	So you hang out by the language school.
	She hang out.
	She literally.
	Well, there's actually a lot of Swedish people that come to Santa Barbara City College.
	Yeah, there is a lot.
	So you just troll around SPCC looking for the tall Scandinavian guys.
	Okay.
	But that doesn't mean I'm attracted to every tall, blue-eyed, more haired person, but that's just typically like what I've seen.
	That is your type.
	Yeah.
	What if they have dark hair?
	Yeah, that's fine too.
	I mean, I'm not attracted.
	It's not like I'm only attracted to those new type of guys, but if you have brunette hair, potentially you could be attracting.
	Doesn't mean that they're like, you're not going to consider it because they're outside of your type.
	My boyfriend's completely outside of my type.
	Sure.
	Your boyfriend isn't the tall, curly-haired Latino man.
	No, he's not.
	He's like six foot.
	He's white.
	He's half Irish.
	And he's actually like my first relationship.
	So he was like the exception for me.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Someone in the chat is saying, let's see, Bruno Mars is half, someone said he was half Hawaiian, but now he's saying, you got to pick one.
	He's either Hawaiian, Usagi Akimbo.
	Bruno Mars is Hawaiian, but then later you say, oh, half Filipino.
	So maybe half Filipino, Hawaiian.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I didn't think he was black.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Anyways, we got another super chat in, right?
	Let's see here.
	Abbo.
	Does anybody can anyone help me out?
	Abbo Seleiman?
	Abbo Seleim Seleiman?
	Is that South African?
	Anyone in the chat, what is this currency?
	But hey, thank you for the SAR 20.
	Much appreciated.
	Where's my love, Sabrina Kate?
	you mean the girl from last show um she is not she had a party to go to um she I think she's going to come back on the show next week or something.
	But, hey, thank you, man, for the support.
	I think she's single, so, and I think she likes, are you Arabic, by chance?
	She likes Arabic men, so slide in her DMs.
	Let's see, next super chat.
	Again, Stephen Krug with the third, I believe that's your third $10 super chat.
	Thank you, Stephen.
	Much appreciated.
	By the way, again, I think I asked, are you from Santa Barbara?
	Just curious.
	Women with body count 8 plus, for example, that has kids with partner 9 is less likely to be attached to the new mate, less likely to care well for child because they're desensitized to a sex connection.
	Why?
	I don't know what that is.
	If you're having children with someone, you're going to have to be 100% sure that you love him or at least you guys can create a child together.
	And even then, that doesn't mean if you're not fully attached to that person, that doesn't mean that you're less likely to take care for the child.
	Yeah, my turn is that your pilot's like connection.
	You gave birth to that child.
	You're going to have some sort of like, like you were saying, that paternal instinct, that biology for men is super strong.
	That maternal instinct for women is extremely strong in that sense.
	Where are you getting these facts from, Steven?
	Yeah.
	Check your sources.
	Yeah.
	Read a textbook.
	So the part where he says is less likely to be attached to the new mate.
	That is true.
	That is true.
	So if you've had more partners, it's harder for you to pair bond with that person.
	They've done studies on it.
	That makes sense.
	They've done studies.
	I mean, if you've had, for example, 40 partners, I mean, most people don't have like most people haven't had 40 boyfriends or 40 girlfriends.
	But the more partners you have, typically like, and Andrew Tate actually said this in the first one, like really your first, second, or third relationship, that's like long-term relationship.
	That's probably going to be the person that you really like had the strongest thing for.
	You're really in love with them.
	You get your heart broken.
	You start getting jaded, jaded, jaded, break up, break up, break up, cheating, cheating, cheating.
	And then you start getting a bit more guarded.
	And so I do think those first few love relationships are probably going to be the ones where you have the strongest bond with that person.
	I could be wrong.
	No, I actually think that's true.
	Actually, I can agree on that.
	They always say your first love is the hardest or something like that.
	Yeah, so I think maybe that's a little bit like, yeah.
	That's a little bit what they're getting to.
	But they have done studies.
	I think the CDC did a study where they looked at married couples and amongst couples that were more promiscuous or one of the partners were more promiscuous, or even just on the individual level, they pulled both men and women.
	If the person was more promiscuous and had more premarital partners, they're more likely to report marriage dissatisfaction, more likely to be divorced, or sorry, more likely to get divorced.
	So word.
	I think that's where Stephen is going with that.
	Okay, I mean, I could definitely, I mean, I definitely agree on the point where like the first couple of people that you're first with, you definitely have like an unexplainable, stronger connection to.
	I think there definitely is truth to that.
	You know, it's like your first, very first experiences.
	It's experiencing it for the first time.
	So it's probably most likely going to be the most memorable and like feeling that feeling for the first time.
	Sure.
	And you're typically a lot younger too because it is one of your first experiences.
	So I think that plays a factor in it too.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I also find myself like comparing myself how I was mentally like in previous relationships and like what I'm mentally capable of now in relationships.
	So I feel like that's like really true.
	Yeah.
	You're like capable of less mentally.
	Yeah.
	And just to add to I think Stephen Krug's point, another thing, so you have relationship satisfaction, relationship stability.
	So if you're not married, let's just say your chance of breakup.
	But if you are married, there's a higher chance of divorce if one or both partners had a promiscuous past.
	And then it also increases the likelihood of cheating and infidelity.
	If someone has a promiscuous past, they're more likely to cheat.
	I think maybe it has to do with the fact that that person has like more options and people that they can go back to.
	So I think that there might be a correlation with that.
	There is a saying that goes, like, men are only as faithful as their options.
	Yeah.
	That is a saying.
	Yeah.
	If a guy's got a bunch of options, he might, he's going to exercise them, you know?
	Exactly.
	Like, and I think that's true.
	It's like if a person has more options, they're more likely to cheat because they have more opportunities coming at them.
	Word.
	Word.
	So I want to go back.
	Actually, hold on.
	We got a super chat coming in.
	Oh, is this a super chat?
	Oh, this might have just been an accidental posting on the makeup.
	Well, Guillermo, we're going to give it to you.
	Guillermo Fonseca with the $0 Super Chat.
	Is your boyfriend posting you on their Instagram a make it or break it?
	My fiancé dipped out on me because I wouldn't post her enough.
	Is it hurting him to post her?
	Yeah, like why not?
	What do you get out of just not posting her?
	It doesn't hurt.
	Yeah, and if she asks, why do you care about posts?
	Yeah, if you're in a relationship with your girl and like you want to show her off to everyone.
	Maybe he's a bit more discreet.
	Yeah, maybe.
	That's fair.
	There's definitely girls.
	Definitely girls on Instagram.
	You got to be pretty serious with a guy if you're going to post a guy on your Instagram and it's kind of clear that, you know?
	So I can see the hesitation, I guess, from both sides.
	But if he's constantly on his Instagram and everything, and he's just going about life, just throw in your girl, your fiancé, I guess.
	Yeah, I feel like if he doesn't post anything, then maybe it's okay.
	But if he's posting all the time or pretty normally and like doesn't post you or like post things that you do, but not with you.
	I would think there's something wrong.
	Yeah.
	Like, why are you hiding me?
	Yeah, if he's posting stories and all this stuff on Instagram all the time, then I get hurt.
	But if he doesn't do it, then I'm like, all right, that's fine.
	If he's not active, like a ghost on social media, I'd be like, okay, I got it.
	All right.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	So to bring it back to body count, which initially came, we were talking about age gap.
	But I think point blank, broadly speaking, men don't want to date women with a promiscuous past.
	And he might hook up with you, but most men are probably, if he knows that you've been the town bicycle, he's not going to take you seriously.
	And it's, I already talked about one of the reasons there's a biological evolutionary thing.
	Like, so that's a factor.
	Paternity fraud.
	Paternity fraud is pretty much the biggest L a guy can take.
	Like the great sexual fraud.
	You're raising a kid that you think is yours, but it's not.
	So not only have you just found out that your partner was cheating on you, infidelity, but also this child that assume you love, how's that?
	And then probably your whole relationship just washed and it's all over and then it's all it's a whole fucking mess.
	So yeah, paternity fraud's a big one.
	And it's a real fear for men.
	Like, that's a real fear.
	And so it's kind of just ingrained in us evolutionarily.
	And yeah.
	So we should try to circle back to the age gap stuff.
	So it seems pretty resounding that everyone here was like, hey, age gap doesn't matter.
	Or no, it is weird.
	Yeah.
	It is weird.
	It can be weird.
	Can be weird.
	Okay.
	Question.
	So I was dating a 45-year-old woman.
	I'm 33.
	I'm 33.
	I'm a dinosaur.
	Old man.
	I was dating a 45-year-old woman.
	Chat.
	She wasn't a single mom.
	She didn't have kids.
	She was still a babe.
	Okay.
	She was a babe.
	Is that too much of an age gap?
	It's 12 years.
	Were you like...
	Oh, why don't we start with Gabby.
	Gabby's dying to give her tail.
	I don't think that's, like, there's anything wrong with that.
	If you're...
	You said 33 and she was 4.
	45.
	45.
	I feel like that's fine.
	You guys are both older.
	Damn.
	Yeah, you guys experience life.
	Like, I mean, go you.
	Repeat the question.
	Oh, into the microphone.
	So I'm 35, I was dating a 45-year-old woman.
	That's a 12-year age gap.
	Any quarrel there?
	No.
	Okay.
	Veena?
	No, no coral.
	I feel like if you guys were trying to feel it out, that's cool.
	You thought it was going to go somewhere.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Like, you guys are old enough to the point where you're like that much of an age gap.
	It doesn't really matter.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, same thing.
	Like, you're further into your adult life, so I don't think it's weird.
	Okay.
	And would you say the reverses would be fine too?
	45-year-old man, 33-year-old woman?
	No.
	Okay.
	Fair, fair.
	Yeah, I think you guys did make the point earlier that, you know, it does depend on the age, you know, like a 22 year old versus an 18 year old, even just a four year age gap there.
	That's that's still I don't think I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all, but it is you are quite in fairly different points.
	Well, not fairly different, but I mean, there is a bit of a difference there.
	Whereas like 45 to 33, it's kind of like you're both been in professionals for a while.
	So I think as you get older, age gap can get wider.
	But I'm going to give my devil's advocate take here.
	So I don't think there's any issue.
	Assuming they're, okay, everyone has to be adults over the age of 18.
	But I don't think there's any issue.
	If you're 25, or if you're 30 and you want to date a 20-year-old, you're 35, want to date a 25-year-old.
	You're 29, want to date a 19-year-old.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
	29 and 19.
	29 and 19.
	Yes.
	So I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
	And I, yeah.
	Anyone want to come in and be like challenge me?
	Not really.
	I'm not going to challenge you, but like, I mean, I agree.
	I just feel like it's just like the only issue, the only time when I have an issue with it is when it's like fresh out of high school.
	You know?
	Like when it's like a barely legal thing.
	Barely legal, you know?
	Like if they are like, say they're a year in college and they're pretty mature, then like maybe, but still might be a little weird from the guy's perspective.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I would just reiterate that I don't think age necessarily dictates maturity.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	And I've certainly like, so, okay, I'm 33.
	You know, most of my recent relationships, dates, whatever, it's been with vast majority, like, I'd say late 20s, early 30s, like, I think between like 25 and 34 has been majority of my age rage.
	I certainly wouldn't object to dating someone who was 18, 19, 20, 21, 22.
	And just tying it into maturity, I've dealt with, maybe I shouldn't say, I'll say dealt with.
	I've dealt with, talked to, gone on dates with, you know, women who you'd think ought to have their shit together.
	I'm talking attorneys.
	I'm talking a doctor.
	I'm talking more fucking nurses.
	So with all the fucking nurses on the dating house, by the way.
	More nurses than I can think of.
	I dated a PhD professor or something.
	I dated a teacher.
	I dated a, trying to think here.
	Volda.
	Kind of outing myself a little bit.
	He's exposing yourself.
	Like a cancer researcher.
	I dated a pharmacist.
	So all successful, like more older women.
	And like, shit doesn't change.
	People are still immature.
	Like, I mean, I think I got one thing that's really important to me on a date: punctuality.
	Y'all late.
	Can y'all be on time?
	I know.
	Can y'all show up on time?
	But no, something that's important to me is punctuality.
	And even if you're running, if you're running late and you let me know ahead of time, I do appreciate that.
	But there was a, I was dating this 29-year-old.
	Well, I shouldn't say I was dating her.
	I went on a singular day with her.
	She's 29, you know, around my age, right?
	Okay, you'd think she's mature, right?
	29, like researcher at some company making six figures.
	And she's 30 minutes for the date, late for the date.
	I'm there exactly on time because I'm punctual.
	She texts me like five minutes past when she was supposed to, you know, we were supposed to meet at seven.
	She texts me at 7.05.
	I'm already there for five minutes.
	She's like, oh, I'm 15 minutes.
	I'm going to be there in 15 minutes.
	Well, you should have told me that 15 minutes ago.
	And then she ends up being 30 minutes late.
	And then she shows up.
	Not even an apology.
	Really?
	No, not even.
	I didn't want her to get on her knees and be like, I'm so sorry, Brett.
	No, I just wanted a token like, hey, sorry, I'm late.
	How are you doing?
	But yeah, because she was late and she didn't even give me like a forewarning.
	So I don't know.
	Maybe I'm being a little bit.
	I do think it's a bit rude to be that.
	I would have been totally fine if she just said, hey, sorry, I'm late.
	How you doing?
	How's your date?
	And then just moving.
	Oh, my God.
	But not even sorry.
	So I was like, okay.
	All right.
	That's rude.
	That is rude.
	If you're like excited for the day, you're just like disappointed at that point.
	Oh, yeah.
	torpedoed the shit out of that thing.
	I was like you're like way to bring the food now.
	I need to get out of here.
	I don't do food dates.
	Oh, that's smart.
	Don't do food dates.
	I actually agree on that.
	Don't do food dates.
	Unless you're at the moment.
	I'll be met for a drink.
	Like a quiet exit strategy.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Because, guys, no food dates, no dinner dates for a couple of reasons.
	I agree.
	One, well, one thing I like to talk to the girl on the phone before I meet her.
	Like, if it's off a dating app, I want to have a conversation with her.
	Yeah.
	Because just so she can feel me out, I can feel her out.
	Because just texting, you can't really, because everyone can be real fucking clever over a text message.
	Yeah, you're being limited.
	But you have time to think about what you want to say.
	But when it comes conversationally, then it's a lot different.
	And then you can definitely suss out if they're fucking crazy over the phone, you know?
	So I've definitely, and I've actually had situations, well, it's basically just a situation where you can say, hey, give them an opportunity to feel you out.
	Sometimes they don't like you, you don't like them.
	And then you don't have to commit to meeting in person, going on the date when you can figure that out in a 15-minute phone call.
	But if you go to a dinner date, even if you've done a phone call and you've figured it out, if it's not going good, you're kind of stuck there.
	So I think first dates should kind of be like low commitment.
	I agree.
	Just do something casual, coffee, walk, get a drink.
	That way, if you're feeling it great, you can continue there.
	If you're not feeling it, you can politely excuse yourself.
	You can end it.
	Or, I mean, even if you just want to be polite and just like have a conversation with them, stick around.
	I feel like dinner is kind of awkward too.
	Plus, with dinner, I don't know about you, but like when I eat, I just want to eat.
	I want to talk, you know?
	Yeah, I feel like it's dinner is definitely a kind of intimate date, you know?
	And I feel like I feel like it's definitely not the move for like maybe like third date if you're really feeling the person.
	Yeah, and you're trying to pay attention to them, but like they're eating and like you're eating, which is like awkward.
	Like, do I talk?
	Do I eat?
	Yeah.
	And yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, because it's like you don't know this person well enough yet, so you don't want there to be an awkward silence.
	But if you're eating, like and then and then, oh, then you start talking and then your food gets cold.
	Yeah, yeah, it's like that.
	Like we ordered food, we were talking and like the conversation was good, so we just kept talking and the food just settled.
	Like, are you guys gonna finish now?
	Did you take it to go or just go?
	I don't think anything happened with the food.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, no, that's why I don't think food dates are good.
	I think food dates are better once you've gone to know the person a bit more, you're more comfortable, and then you can actually, you know, pause and eat.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	Because I've had a situation where I'm like about to take a bite.
	I'm about to take a bite out of the burger.
	And she asked me some like in-depth as fuck question.
	10-minute conversation.
	That's going to take me like three minutes to answer.
	I'm like, fuck, this is going to get cold.
	I'm going to be like, hold on.
	And then I'll start eating.
	But yeah, so dinner date's no good.
	Get a drink, go for a walk, get coffee.
	But let me ask you guys this.
	Have you ever done a foodie call?
	Why?
	A foodie call.
	So it's like a booty call, but a foodie call.
	You just trying to get dinner.
	Oh.
	The guy asked you out for dinner.
	You're not really interested, Rafaela.
	I haven't.
	I've been asked on dates.
	Virginia, go to that.
	Oh, yeah, go for it.
	And like thought about that, but like, I just wouldn't, I don't know.
	If I'm not interested in the person, I don't want to put myself in that situation to go on a date with them and then, like, just for food, you know, like I can buy my own food.
	So go on a date.
	I've, so I've done that, but only on sugar daddy dates.
	Like, I've had a couple sugar daddies, and like.
	You've had sugar daddies.
	Let's, let's talk a bit about this.
	Yeah.
	So you go on.
	You've done that a few times.
	Yeah.
	Like, I just had one recently, actually.
	Like, it was like.
	Wait, don't you have a boyfriend?
	Well, it was before we started dating.
	Very recently.
	It was like a couple months ago.
	And I met him on Tinder.
	And then I was like, yeah, I'm only doing a sugar daddy, though.
	I only want a sugar daddy.
	And he's like, okay, like, and I was like, okay, pay me this much to take me out to, like, dinner.
	I was like, what?
	Yeah.
	The perks.
	So, yeah.
	So I was like, oh, $400 for dinner.
	And he called me on the phone.
	We talked.
	He liked my personality.
	And he's like, okay, well, I've never done this before, but you're super beautiful.
	Like, I wanted to do it.
	Like, I really want to get to know you.
	Like, so how about $200 for lunch?
	So I was like, okay, bet.
	So I was like, free mail at a really nice place.
	And he's paying me.
	So then, go ahead.
	Oh, so, and that was your first interaction.
	The first date was the lunch date.
	Yeah.
	And then you, so you asked for $200.
	Yeah.
	And then I assume he paid for yeah, he paid for it.
	And you want to know something funny?
	My boyfriend now is actually came with me with a few of my coworkers and sat at like two tables away to watch and make sure that like I was safe.
	It's like, what?
	It's a true story.
	But they weren't eating with you at the table.
	No, no, they weren't.
	They were just across watching.
	How many, your boy, your boyfriend, and like a couple friends.
	Okay, so me, so I go in before them.
	Oh my God.
	And then me and him are talking and everything.
	And, you know, it's going good.
	We're eating, getting a couple drinks with a sugar daddy.
	And then my.
	He wasn't my boyfriend then, but my boyfriend now.
	You were friends.
	You guys weren't.
	Yeah, we were friends and we're coworkers.
	We had hooked up a couple times, but it wasn't anything, you know?
	Sure.
	And then two of my coworkers go and I see them sit at a table like two tables diagonally from the, diagonally from me and I can make eye contact with my boyfriend.
	And like, and I like just kept a straight face and just, we continued the date.
	And then afterward, the sugar daddy like slid me like $200.
	Was like, I really liked you.
	Like, let's do this again.
	And then I was like, yeah, sure.
	And then I was like, he said, oh, do you need a ride?
	I was like, no, I have someone coming to pick me up.
	I just waited till he left and then I went and went back.
	Yeah.
	I have so many questions.
	First question, how old was the guy?
	40.
	40.
	And you met on Tinder?
	Yes.
	Okay, 40 years old.
	You met on Tinder.
	And remind me, you're 20.
	20.
	20.
	What happened to the age gap thing?
	No, I did not.
	Well, okay.
	Okay, so like I did not, I literally just wanted to make extra money.
	Like I did not, like, there's nothing physical.
	Like I was not planning on doing anything physical.
	He was paying me per date.
	So I just went on a few dates with him and yeah, just got a couple.
	Yeah.
	Like hanging out.
	Yeah, like really hanging out.
	Got a few nice dinners.
	I was like, yeah, like I want to go eat a nice dinner.
	Like, sure, you can take me out on a date.
	Okay.
	So then did you.
	How many other times did you see him?
	I only saw him twice.
	Twice.
	And then the second date, he also paid you 200?
	He paid me.
	Yeah, he paid me $150 this hundred times.
	Why the downgrade?
	We were gonna.
	Okay, so we were gonna come up with an agreement that was like $1,200 a month for eight dates.
	And then he was gonna pay me per date till it reached eight dates.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so why didn't you continue with that?
	It just you didn't like it or I he was like too much.
	He was like in love with me right off the bat.
	He was like, do you want to have kids?
	Like I eventually want you to be my girlfriend.
	I want you to be more trusting with me.
	I want to kick this off.
	Like I want a relationship with you.
	And it was just like really mentally toxing.
	And then me and my boyfriend started to get more serious and it was just too emotionally toxic.
	I couldn't do it anymore.
	And I just also felt guilty because I felt like I was like lying to him, you know.
	Finessing him.
	Yeah.
	For the money.
	And I felt guilty.
	Huh?
	Okay.
	So only two times and it was just lunch.
	Lunch and one dinner.
	One dinner.
	Okay.
	So kind of a foodie call.
	And it's kind of sugar baby situation, but you didn't really give him any sugar.
	Nope.
	No sugar.
	Nope.
	No sugar was given.
	No sugar received.
	Nope.
	Just company.
	Honestly, I don't get that dynamic at all.
	Was he like kind of socially awkward?
	Was he on the track?
	He actually wasn't.
	It's not, he actually wasn't that unattractive.
	I just wasn't attracted to him because of the age gap.
	And he was actually really nice and really sweet.
	And we actually like really had a lot in common.
	And it was just that like, from my perspective, I think he was 40.
	I don't think he's had a serious relationship.
	He's like grasping for a wife or something.
	Wait, he's never had a serious relationship?
	He told you that?
	I don't think so.
	That's crazy.
	And that's a little trippy.
	You don't think he didn't tell you about his past relationship history?
	Well, he's never had a wife.
	He told me he's like, I've never had a wife.
	I've never had kids.
	I've always been super focused on my career.
	Was he very wealthy?
	Very wealthy.
	He had a Bentley.
	Did you know he had a Bentley?
	Yeah.
	Did he ever tell you how much money he made like per year?
	No, but he told me he's the president of a financial company.
	Don't say the company, but.
	I'm not going to say the company.
	Okay, so he's probably of a company which does things in over 47 different like country or not countries, states.
	Okay, interesting.
	Yeah.
	Very interesting.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever had any other sugar daddy?
	I have actually.
	How many?
	Sugar daddy situations?
	Actually, when I was a freshman, was it freshman in college?
	No, I was a sophomore.
	So I just would go on like these dating apps and be like, hey, like, I'm a broke college student.
	I need some help.
	Would you mind sending me money to help pay for tuition?
	And this guy sent me $100.
	And then, so he's like, hey, I want to take you out on a sushi date.
	Like, I want to help you out.
	So I went on one sushi date with him.
	And then he paid me $100 after and was like, hey, if you ever want to go shopping, if you ever need anything, like, let me know.
	And then, so every once in a while, I'll be like, hey, like, I need money for bills.
	Can you send me money?
	He'd send me $200 here, $300 there.
	And then actually, beginning of this, beginning of last year, like, I didn't talk to him for six months.
	I was like, hey, I need money for dinner.
	Like, can I have some money?
	We didn't talk for six months.
	He was like, oh, I don't have Venmo or anything.
	I'll leave you cash under my mat.
	So I went and picked up 80 bucks.
	He gave me like some money.
	And you never hooked up with him?
	Oh, I went on one sushi date for him and I didn't, that was it.
	I met him once.
	Okay, so no sugar.
	And then it sounded like there were a couple more maybe.
	But so, and these were all on Tinder.
	One was on this one app called Meet Me.
	Oh, seeking arrangements?
	I have done that before, but that's too sketchy, honestly.
	Okay.
	Because that is like the, if you want an arrangement, that's where you.
	Yeah, that's like people expect sugar.
	But so you were, so you were just on Tinder, but it sounded like with at least one of them, you, was it on your profile or in your bio that you were trying to set this arrangement up?
	Not at all.
	So like.
	You would just message them.
	Yeah, there'd be like a be like, I want money.
	No, no.
	It would be like, so like, I'll give you an example.
	The last one, the last one, his name, I'm not going to say his name, but we're going to call him T.
	So T messages me.
	He was like.
	Tyrone.
	We'll call him Tyrone.
	Okay, Tyrone.
	So Tyrone messages me.
	He's like, hey, you're super beautiful.
	And I just started talking to him.
	I was like, oh, hey, how are you?
	You know, kind of whatever.
	And he was, I was like, oh, here's my number.
	Or he was like, oh, here's my number.
	Text me.
	And I told him off the bat.
	I was like, oh, I'm looking for a sugar daddy.
	He's like, okay, like, I've never done that before, but like, let's talk more about it.
	So then he texts me.
	And then I think we had a few conversations, but I was in school at the time.
	I was way too busy.
	So I didn't talk to him for like two months.
	And then he texts me out of the blue.
	Hey, let's get dinner.
	Hey, like, let me take you out for lunch.
	This and that.
	And then finally, I was like, oh, yeah, like, I'm looking for a sugar daddy.
	I do this much for a date.
	And then he's like, okay, call me.
	Let's talk more about it.
	And then that's when we moved it on to it.
	Okay, got it.
	Yeah, but Tinder's where it's at, girls.
	Like, if you're looking to get like a sugar daddy, set your age gap all the way up and then like swipe right.
	And then just be like, hey, looking for a sugar daddy.
	Talk to them.
	Be nice.
	Don't like be too demanding, you know?
	All right.
	You're giving the girls some game on getting a sugar daddy.
	So we're going to kind of make this two questions then.
	Rafaela, have you ever had, I said your name, right?
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	Okay.
	So have you ever been on the foodie call and have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	I have been on a foodie call, but it was like wanted to hang out with someone type of thing.
	And sugar daddy, it was like in the progress of happening, but it never happened because I got scared of like actually going to meet this guy.
	You got worried about meeting him?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you had a prospect.
	You had a sugar daddy prospect.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And how did you meet him, Tinder?
	Actually, he reached out on Instagram and he actually reached out to Gabby too.
	He reached out to, we were going to do it together.
	The double finesse.
	Wait, do it to me.
	He was like hanging out with both of us.
	Oh, at the same time.
	Oh, so it was a sh he wanted sugar.
	No, he wanted to like talk and stuff.
	I feel like any guy, like they're angling, they want sex.
	Well, yeah, but they're not going to say that.
	They don't want to scare us off, you know?
	They'll still pay to take us out on the first date.
	I mean, guys, don't be fucking come on, dude.
	Don't be these dudes.
	Don't do it.
	He offered us money to hang out at the beach.
	Bruv, was he socially awkward?
	What was his thing?
	Was he good looking?
	We FaceTimed him.
	How old was he?
	He was like 50?
	Yeah.
	He was cool, but we were just scared to go actually meet him.
	Guys, don't be fucking sugar daddies.
	Don't fucking don't.
	I don't know if I can say simp because we're streaming on Twitch, but fuck it, whatever.
	Don't be a simp.
	Don't fucking...
	Guys, come on.
	I know.
	I know I'm like, y'all trying to, you know, finesse, but come on, guys, don't fucking simp.
	Okay.
	So he messaged you guys on Instagram.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And he wanted to threesome.
	No, well, actually, no, he DM'd us like both individually.
	I just don't.
	I don't get it.
	No, we were like talking about our DMs one day, and I was like, oh my god, like this sugar daddy DM'd me.
	She was like, wait, he DM'd me too.
	And we're like, oh my, like, he's just going around like BCSV girls, I think.
	And so we were like, we told him, we're like, oh, like, you know, it's my best friend.
	We were like, dumb to hang out, but.
	Scary.
	Yeah.
	We were just worried.
	For your own safety, that's like, can go.
	Always have a guy friend come and watch.
	Yeah.
	Somewhere safe.
	We didn't even give him our number.
	We gave him like our friend's number.
	No.
	Would you do that just like on a regular date, though?
	Like a guy you're actually interested in, would you go on a date, but then like there's a fucking guy friend in the corner or some shit?
	To me, that'd be kind of weird.
	No, I wouldn't do that.
	Like if I found out, I'd be like, it's just kind of weird.
	No.
	I mean, if it's a guy my own age, I would feel fine.
	Sure.
	Have you ever been on the foodie call?
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	Wait, foodie and call foodie call as like I wanted food.
	Yeah, you just wanted food.
	The guy wanted to take you to dinner.
	Yeah, I've been on a foodie call.
	And what was the second question?
	Sugar daddy?
	Ever had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	Not a foodie call, but like this random Instagram account DM'd me on Instagram and he was like saying like oh, I'll like Venmo you and like I don't get sketched out with Venmo, I get sketched out with like PayPal or Cash App.
	And so I was like okay, like here's my Venmo.
	And he like Venmo'd me $10 and I would just like just text him, be like hey, can I have like money?
	And he'd send me like 10 bucks.
	So I don't think that's like it's not like a big sugar daddy, but like he just like sent me money and I didn't even like send anything, I just talked to him yeah yeah, and it wasn't even like like gross he, he Was like a producer, for he like helped out with Star Wars.
	Star Wars.
	Oh.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	That's how he says.
	I have never been on a foodie call.
	If I'm going on a date with you, I really have to be genuinely interested, so I wouldn't waste both of our times.
	And no, I don't.
	Ever had a sugar daddy?
	Besides, I mean, the happened four days ago.
	I was in Montecito just like watching the sunset by myself.
	And this like 50-year-old, probably like 40, came up to my car while I was like alone and tried to get me to go home with him.
	And he was like, I'll pay you.
	Like, I have a home in Montecito.
	Oh, my.
	I was like, no, I was alone too.
	And I was like, really scared.
	I was like, that is.
	So, yeah.
	He was like, he's like, I'll take you out on a sushi date and like, I'll pay you.
	Like, he was like, I'll take you to Hawaii too.
	I was like, already offer that.
	First time meeting.
	I don't even know.
	I wish a 40-year-old woman came up to me.
	There are sugar mamas.
	Brian, I'll pay for your dinner.
	I'll take you to Hawaii.
	I got you.
	I do understand it's a bit different, though.
	But I don't really think there are really.
	I know there are like, there are some sugar mamas, but that shit's rare.
	My friend had one.
	That shit.
	Yeah, but it's rare.
	I got sugar mom.
	Like, you want a sugar mama?
	Like, I'll take care of you.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like the sugar mamas or whatever, they mostly go for younger guys, I think.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like in their 20s.
	So like the cougars, they're going for.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	Maybe got to shoot for the 60s.
	What a mess.
	Okay.
	We got some super chats here.
	We're going to read.
	Let me pull these up.
	We got Brawlio V with the $5 super chat.
	Thank you, man, for the support.
	Much appreciated.
	Just curious, why is there only female guests?
	Having guys on the podcast would give other interesting perspectives.
	So I can answer that.
	So there's kind of two.
	Well, so I've considered doing like three guys versus three girls, kind of like, and then just having like each give their take.
	But I think the big thing is, is that I have the freedom to speak my mind because I think if a lot of guys are honest about their preferences, their boundaries, their standards, it's going to be met with contempt.
	It's going to be met with reprisal.
	Like, for example, if you're a guy and you say, I don't want to date a fat woman, now you can say it more tactfully, but if you say that, oh, fat shaming.
	That's fat phobic.
	How dare you?
	No, but nobody bats an eye if a girl says, hey, I want to date a guy with six feet.
	Nobody cares, right?
	So you're going to, as a guy, most men's preferences are met with contempt.
	So for example, if you want to date a woman who's younger, if you want to date a woman who doesn't have a promiscuous past, if you want to date a woman who's feminine, if you want to date a woman who's submissive, all these things, right?
	People are going to take quarrel with that.
	Not everybody, but people will take quarrel with that.
	And I feel like a lot of guys are not going to be able to be honest about what they want.
	Also, guys have to lie to get women, so there's that too.
	So I think guys, it's hard for guys to be honest about what they want.
	So, yeah.
	I hope that sufficiently answered your question.
	But I actually am entertaining, bringing on some guys, but my concern is like a lot of guys, there's like this concept of what's called like a white knight.
	So they're just going to simp for the girls, and they're like going to give a very politically correct take.
	And that's fine.
	Maybe they genuinely believe it, but like a lot of guys, like most guys are just going to placate.
	So Justin with the $10 soup chat, thank you for the support, man.
	Much appreciated.
	My parents worked together.
	My father, 44, never married, and my mother, 20.
	She was interested, but he wanted her to be 21.
	On her 21st birthday, they went out.
	Three years later, they married.
	Dad is 71 and mom 47 now.
	Okay, work together.
	So that is a 24 year age gap.
	So wait.
	He was 44.
	She was 20.
	How old is his parents?
	I mean, I feel like it's almost as time has gone on, it's actually starting like age gaps, I think, are viewed worse now amongst adults, you know, but within the context of an adult relationship.
	So let me ask the panel, like, would you guys 44 moms or 44 guy, 20-year-old woman?
	I mean, I think I already know the answer, but thumbs up or thumbs down on that.
	That's kind of hard, like in the middle.
	Is that allowed?
	In the middle.
	Okay.
	Justin, I mean, I don't, it's not, are they still married?
	It sounds like they're you didn't really mention that in your comment, but if they're happily married, then that's awesome word.
	But let's see, next super chat.
	Our buddy, again, Abo Salamaine.
	I must have missed it.
	I wasn't reading chat.
	If anybody let us know what currency that is.
	Thank you for the 25 star.
	Is there an innocent friendship between a woman and a man?
	If yes, will you accept that for your partner to have?
	Is there an innocent friendship between a woman and a man?
	So basically, if your boyfriend or girlfriend, if they have a platonic relationship with someone of the opposite sex, is that would you accept that?
	Yeah, we can go around the panel with that.
	Gabby, would you be okay with your long-term serious monogamous boyfriend being friends with a girl?
	Yeah, definitely.
	Because I know I have guy friends and they don't want to fuck me or anything.
	They don't have feelings for me.
	Wait, hold on.
	So, question on that, though.
	So you have a couple guy friends.
	Yeah.
	Do you think, if given the opportunity, if you said, hey, do you want to hook up?
	Definitely not.
	Would they hook up with you?
	No.
	And of your single guy friends, if you said that, would they hook up with you?
	No.
	Can we test it?
	Can you text them right now?
	Can you text them right now?
	Okay, we'll go around the table, text a couple of those guy friends.
	Just say, what should she say?
	They're probably watching.
	Well, they might be watching.
	But say, what?
	Would you be down to hook up?
	What are you doing?
	That's too vague.
	I'll be like, hey, what are you doing tonight?
	Would you want to come over and watch a movie?
	Do you want to watch them?
	Would you want to cuddle?
	How about that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Text Roy.
	Text Roy.
	Yeah, text Roy.
	He's watching.
	Text a couple, text three.
	So I guess we can rephrase the question.
	Do you think men and women can be friends?
	Yes.
	Oops.
	Yeah, I mean, like, my boyfriend does have girlfriends, and like, I'm okay with it.
	It doesn't really matter as long as he stays loyal.
	I don't know, simply because I thought I could stay in a friendship with my now boyfriend, and it just, like, it didn't work like that.
	We thought we could just stay friends and we couldn't.
	So that's my personal experience on that.
	I think it's fine.
	My best friend ever is a dude.
	And so it'd be kind of hypocritical of me.
	And I don't think I would mind.
	I know he doesn't want to.
	He doesn't want to?
	Does he have a girlfriend right now?
	No.
	Can you text him?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Text him.
	He might be watching, though, right?
	I don't know.
	Do you want to know something?
	Do I?
	Do I?
	I dated him in the past.
	No way!
	Whoa.
	So you slept with him before?
	okay well then of course if you but like oh that's even well okay Let me tell you how it went.
	We were in high school.
	We were really young.
	And we dated.
	We were best friends.
	And then we dated.
	And then we broke up because it was not working.
	And looking back on it, we both think that we should have never dated.
	That's how it is now.
	So you were friends, you dated.
	We thought that it should be something more because we were just like so like connected and stuff.
	And we were young.
	Like we were like 16.
	And then we broke up.
	And then like now we're like, we should have never dated.
	We should have never done that.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	If I texted him right now, he would still say no.
	Okay.
	That's a difficult situation because you hooked up in the past.
	Yeah.
	Now you're friends.
	Yeah, just text him just out of curiosity.
	Why not?
	Naomi.
	Okay, so I think it's like mixed views, like, because I have a lot of guy friends, and I definitely know some of them.
	If I text him right now, they'd be like, yeah.
	But I also have other guy friends who it's completely platonic.
	Like, would never happen, you know?
	And like, literally always just friends.
	And then, so, yeah, I would accept that for my partner half.
	Like, we have a lot of coworkers where it's a whole group of guys and girls.
	And, like, I would let him, like, go off and hang out with whoever, and I'd trust him.
	I know he wouldn't do anything.
	Yeah, well, I think it's fun.
	Yeah, likewise, I think that men and women can definitely have innocent friendships.
	And I think it's healthy, too.
	I mean, we're human.
	We're meant to be in relationship and friendships with others.
	So, yeah, and I think it'd also be weird, too, to set a boundary with your partner and that they couldn't have girlfriends.
	I don't know.
	What if he's hooked up with the girl?
	Yeah, even though I'm not afraid of like friends.
	Yeah.
	Then that's kind of tricky.
	I don't really like that.
	Yeah.
	Let's check in with Gabby here.
	Yes.
	Have you received a response?
	Yes.
	I texted Justin.
	Justin Pong?
	Oh my God, the sugar daddy just texted me again.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, Justin Pong.
	Is he watching?
	Justin's a girlfriend.
	Oh, I know.
	One of them just sent this.
	He didn't say anything.
	He just said.
	And then one just responded.
	He said, no, you be fighting dudes.
	No, you be.
	So you have a history of domestic violence.
	He's just jumping around.
	Okay.
	And then the other one hasn't responded.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe we'll check back in later.
	Did you hear back from...
	No.
	Okay.
	Wait, when was the last time that you and this friend hooked up?
	Like when we dated.
	We only dated for like four months.
	Okay.
	So like 16.
	So like, did you guys like hook up after?
	No.
	You didn't.
	So it was the only one.
	No, it was just them.
	And then.
	The fuck?
	Brawlio.
	Yeah, okay.
	Just ignore my question, Brian.
	I answered your question, I think, pretty well.
	I think I went into at least two minutes to raid.
	So pretty sure I answered it.
	If you want to pose another question, that's fine.
	So, okay, where are we?
	And we're going to probably wrap up here in about 10, 15 minutes.
	Let's see.
	So, where does anyone recall where we were?
	We were talking about sugar daddies and foodie calls.
	I don't know how we got there.
	Foodie calls.
	Sugar daddy.
	How many do you think most men are like 18, 19, 20, 21-year-old men?
	Let's say your male counterparts are getting these offers for like sugar daddies or sugar mamas?
	For sugar mamas.
	No.
	I've never had anyone offer to be my sugar mama or even a sugar daddy if a gay dude comes by.
	Never had that.
	Ain't nobody coming around.
	So yeah, it's like so rare that that happens to like 18, 19, 20-year-old guys.
	I've never heard of that.
	I'm sure it happens, but it's so, it's such an outlier.
	Like, if we look at all the sugar daddies and sugar mamas, it's probably like 99% are sugar daddies, and there's like 1%, like one that's sugar mama.
	So I don't get it.
	I think it's to do with like the fact that it's usually like older guys asking younger girls.
	I think it's a lot to do with like a power or like sadness thing too, or like an ego boost for those men because they are the ones that have the money and the resources and they're able to provide for the women.
	I mean, I feel like we kind of get off on that.
	I have a theory.
	I suspect it's just they're older and it's one way in which they can make themselves more competitive because why date this 40-year-old when you can date a guy who's around your age, maybe a couple years older.
	So like they don't stand a chance, but maybe if they lead with their money, then maybe they can have a chance.
	I don't know.
	It's just such a weird dynamic, and then it's transactional.
	But I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	So what I want to do is I want to open it up to you guys.
	If you guys want to ask me a question, ask the other girls a question.
	I'm going to open it up.
	Yeah, wait.
	I don't know if you answered it, but what's your body count?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're really good with like ours so bad.
	You're steering away from questions.
	So, I you said you went on a lot of dates.
	Whoa, I'm a man of God.
	Oh, really?
	So I do not kiss and tell.
	Did you reclaim your registration?
	I'm very discreet.
	Did I reclaim?
	Yes, I'm a born-again virgin.
	That's my answer.
	It's okay, me too.
	Yeah.
	How about why don't you guess?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay, I'm going to go.
	I am 30.
	43.
	25 to 30.
	43.
	12.
	10.
	Yeah, 10.
	10 or 11.
	Gabby.
	In the 20s.
	In the 20s.
	Who is the closest?
	I can neither confirm or deny any of these guesses as a man of God.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a question?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	No, I think I'm good.
	For either me or for the panel.
	Or a final thought.
	Or a final thought.
	Final thought.
	No, final thought.
	I think everyone should live their life to the fullest and enjoy their life.
	And if you find someone you like and fully go for it, really try to work it out with that person.
	Try not to put too much thought into social constructs and try not too much to be in your head about things.
	Kind of go with the vibes, guys.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'll give a final thought.
	I think that if you're going to talk to someone and do stuff or whatever, just kind of assess your guys' mindset.
	That's probably what's going to matter more than anything else.
	Age, body count, whatever it is.
	So just like talk about it with them.
	You'll probably feel better about whatever you're wondering, anyways.
	Any question or final thought?
	Final thought.
	I think everyone, exactly like Naomi said, should live their life to the fullest.
	Definitely love yourself before you start loving anybody else.
	And yeah.
	The same.
	Final thought or question?
	Okay.
	Live your life.
	Don't care what other people think.
	No, you're just going to do you.
	And as long as you're happy, it doesn't matter what other people think.
	Same, yeah.
	As long as you're happy, healing.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	No questions.
	Okay, so I think we have one more super chat here.
	Let me pull that up.
	If you guys want to get a super chat in real quick, we can do that.
	Can you get out of the friend zone?
	If so, then how honestly, so, okay, I'll give my take, and if the girls want to, they can come in.
	Just find somebody else.
	Like, I mean, I mean, you can work on yourself, become better, hit the gym, work on your finances, become a better person.
	But, like, I don't know.
	I don't believe in like soulmates or any of that shit.
	So, just, there's a lot of people out there.
	Don't put all your eggs into one basket.
	Yeah, I mean, can you, you can get out of the friend zone, I think.
	Go to the gym, work your ass off, show them what they missed out on, and maybe they'll come back.
	Who knows?
	Yeah, there's this old Mike Jones song that goes something like, back then, hoes didn't want me, now I'm hot, hoes all on me.
	So, get your money right, maybe get a little clout, get some status, get fit.
	But, you know, honestly, like, I think, you know, there's a saying, don't chase, replace.
	That person ain't worth it if you literally need to change the way you are for them to be with you.
	Yeah, I don't think it would work out.
	It's probably just like a chase thing.
	Or you have to prove something to them that you're worth their time.
	I don't think they're the right one.
	Not the right person.
	We got another, I'll show it.
	I think, is this Make Me Smile?
	You coming in from another, he's coming in from another account.
	But I'll show it.
	Fine.
	We got a hater here.
	Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Hey, just in the chat, I know you're Make Me Smile, dude.
	Brian, where did you find this pack of groupies, Craigslist?
	Or happy hour.
	You should have specified if it was missed connections, but Craigslist or Happy Hour.
	Also, don't ignore the fact that you're an Andrew Tate wannabe bottom G.
	I don't think everyone.
	No, I wouldn't say I'm an Andrew Tate wannabe.
	I agree with him on some things.
	I disagree with him on some things.
	So, yeah, haters are going to hate.
	Thank you for the $10, Mike.
	Appreciate it.
	He just literally spent his money to hate.
	That's a person that has no life right there.
	So, sorry, where were we?
	I forgot.
	Final thoughts.
	Final thoughts, Gabby.
	Did you get to the third guy?
	Just said LMAO.
	Who's the third guy?
	He's just my friend.
	Who?
	Just my friend.
	His name's Barris.
	Oh, Barris.
	Yeah, he's probably.
	They're watching.
	No, he's not.
	They're watching.
	No, he might be his podcast question.
	He knows.
	Okay, yeah, he knows.
	He knows.
	Yeah, so I think just to go back, I think I kind of got distracted on one of my take.
	So we were talking a bit about the age thing, and I was just sort of, I think I talked about the ah, yeah.
	I was talking about Habsburg Tara is her nickname I gave her, the one who's 30 minutes late.
	Oh, yeah, I mean, so I've definitely had experiences where I've been on dates with women who are around my age, and like being older, it does not preclude you from being immature.
	It doesn't preclude you from being a good or hold on, how am I it doesn't preclude you from being a bad partner, it doesn't preclude you from us not getting along, us not having a connection.
	So, yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think, I've had, man, I've had, I've been flaked on by like career, like women who have their shit together, career women, like they're flaky.
	I still, you still deal with that same sort of like bullshit that I think everyone deals with when it comes to dating.
	People are flaky, people ghosts, like all that stuff.
	So, I mean, at the end of the day, it's kind of like, well, and I'm going to say something, this might be controversial, but I do think that, and I think this is the case for me.
	I think I was more physically attractive when I was younger.
	I think I was more physically attractive at 23 than I am now at 33.
	Likewise, I think a woman is going to be more, maybe I'm going to get canceled for saying this, a woman's going to be more attractive at 23 than she is going to be when she's 33.
	To me, that's common sense.
	To me, that's just common sense, but some people are going to say, oh, that's like, and I do think some men age, I don't think that was the case for me.
	I think I was better looking when I was younger.
	But, I mean, so if you have, if you have a choice, like, I think physical, being physically attracted to someone is important.
	Not to say that I don't find like someone who's in their 30s, a woman who's in her 30s physically attractive.
	But I mean, if you had to choose between her physical, like her physical attractiveness, it's going to be better when she's 20.
	So there's that.
	And does anyone want to come in on that?
	No?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I feel like younger guys, I always look at them as, like, child.
	You know, but I.
	They look more like baby face, you know?
	I.
	I do think it's different, though.
	Like, I do think, like, would you say you like older men in the sense that like a guy who's maybe one, two, or three years older than you?
	I don't have like a preference for like older men.
	And like even younger men, like say like right now, I'm 20.
	I wouldn't go 18, but I would go 19 or 20 if they are like mature enough.
	Okay.
	It's my boyfriend's age.
	He's a year younger than me.
	Yeah.
	And it's like totally fine.
	I never thought I would go for that, but like it's totally fine.
	Sure.
	Word.
	Word.
	But yeah, I mean, there's other things too.
	When it just comes to the age thing, again, like the body count is a thing.
	There's a higher likelihood she's had some baggage from a previous relationship that she's going to bring into it.
	I'm trying to think what else.
	Also, I mean, the other thing that this is another factor that I actually just realized that I've kind of forgotten to touch on is if you want children, then let's say you're you're 35, 40 as a guy.
	If you want children, if you're dating within your age cohort, I think 35, it starts becoming more difficult for a woman to get pregnant.
	So that's, and so that is another, I think, biological component is that once you, you can still get pregnant after 35, but it's the likely, it's not as likely.
	And then there's, yeah, it's a higher risk pregnancy, higher risk of miscarriage.
	So, I mean, let's say you're 40 and you just haven't gotten around to having kids.
	You're going to maybe be looking at someone who's 30 or younger, if that's really what you want.
	Because, you know, if you want kids, as a man, you can kind of do that until you're forever, for the most part.
	Till it's powder.
	It's powder.
	But that's valid, though.
	Whereas a woman, she has a kind of a limited time in which she can get pregnant, bring the pregnancy to term, have a healthy child.
	I think, in fact, like birth defects increase also.
	So that's another thing to consider.
	So, I mean, that's certainly one thing.
	If you want to have kids, that is another reason why men will have a preference for younger.
	So, yeah.
	Trying to think if there's anything else I can add to that.
	Yeah, just, I don't know.
	And it's been my experience that younger women, adults, younger, well, younger women, tend to be more feminine and submissive.
	So that's cool.
	If that's what you're looking for.
	Yeah, if that's what you're feeling.
	We'll go with the flow.
	Yeah.
	So I guess to kind of wrap up the conversation about body count, age gaps, I'll ask one kind of final question.
	Would you take issue with a man who had a preference for dating someone who was younger and for dating someone who had a low body count?
	Let's start with Gabby.
	Okay, start with Raffaella.
	Wait, an issue with the man in general or an issue with the man as a romantic partner?
	So...
	So I guess would you just take quarrel with or would you take issue with regardless of if you are romantically interested in this person if if a guy said hey, I just prefer dating I prefer dating younger women.
	This is my preference.
	Also, I prefer dating women who have a lower body count.
	Would you take issue with that?
	I think I would take issue with the fact that he prefers to date younger women, but the lower body count, I don't think I would have an issue with.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, in my opinion, I know that everyone's going to disagree.
	Everyone has their preferences, and they're going to stick to that regardless whether I take an issue with it or not.
	So I'm like, as long as you're not, like, as long as I'm not considering dating them, then I'm not going to like come at this person and be like, well, that's wrong.
	Like, you know, and tell them that their preference is wrong.
	You do whatever.
	You know, it's fine.
	It's whatever.
	I'll do my own thing, you know?
	Yeah, I agree.
	I feel like it's just based on everyone's preferences.
	As long as it's not creepy.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Likewise, I think everybody has their own preference.
	Everyone has their choices.
	Yeah, the same thing.
	Like, it's you do you, I'll do me.
	Sure.
	Same thing, preferences.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's entitled to have their preferences, boundaries, and standards.
	I do think it is the case that oftentimes when a man has a preference, boundary, or standard, not always depends on what, but oftentimes people are going to look at him like, hey, they might judge him.
	They might see that, like, shame him if he has a preference.
	So my take is women are allowed to have preferences.
	Men are allowed to have preferences.
	I don't think those preferences necessarily align.
	I think men and women want different things.
	I don't think attraction is symmetrical in the sense that what you find attractive in a guy, men may not necessarily find attractive in women.
	So traits like, I mean, would you want a guy who's capable of like protecting you, providing, who's leader, confident, ambitious, these sorts of things?
	Tall.
	Of course.
	Okay.
	And I don't think some of these things guys don't necessarily care about in women.
	That's fair.
	So, okay.
	We're going to leave it at that.
	Oh, sorry.
	We've got some super chats, guys.
	We're going to have the super chats and then we're going to wrap up.
	Okay.
	Wow, we got a lot here, really.
	Let's see.
	Francisco Cruz-Cortez with the $5 Super Chat.
	Naomi is the homie on one of my favorite channels, Keep Up the Good Work.
	Is that the guy who works in your kitchen?
	No, I used to work with him at my first sushi restaurant.
	What's up, Francisco?
	No way.
	Yeah, no, yeah, he's my coworker from when I was 17.
	He's the homie.
	Yeah, he's the homie.
	Worked at Wabi Sabbi together.
	Sweet.
	What's up?
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Shout out to Francisco.
	Francisco, thank you for the $5 super chat.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Thank you for watching, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's see here.
	Mike, didn't realize what?
	Mike Davis, $10 again.
	Didn't realize $10 was a sum?
	I don't know what he means by that.
	Their sugar daddies must be broke.
	Wait, what?
	Thank you for the dude.
	Oh, he was the guy who was the hate.
	No, I remember.
	I think he wants you guys.
	I think he wants you guys to talk shit to him.
	Is that a kink or what?
	Is that a one?
	Is that a kink?
	But Mike Davis, I don't know if you're just kind of taking the piss as a supporter, but thank you for the $10 super chat.
	I think you might be a troll, but okay.
	There goes $10 more.
	Hype heads, $5.
	Thank you for the $5 super chat.
	Hype heads, much appreciated.
	Consensus.
	I'm out on bail on house arrest for things I've drunkenly did to what?
	Jesus.
	Would you give someone a chance knowing a chance knowing criminal history?
	No.
	If I know you did something to a woman while drunk, how do I expect you to not do the same thing to me?
	Yeah, let's just move on from that one.
	Fucking hype head.
	30's the new 20, am I right?
	Jackson Flaxon.
	Thank you for the $2 super chat.
	Much appreciated.
	And our homie again with the $50.
	I keep missing.
	Have you guys been reading the chat?
	Has anyone put what the...
	No.
	Is it South Africa?
	South African brush.
	Mike Davis.
	Hey, if you want to just keep roasting us, keep it going, Mike.
	Relationship with much older men equals much more love and loyalty and commitment.
	Abbo, Salamein, Sar.
	Is it South African Saudi Arabian Saudi Arabian?
	I mean.
	I think it's the Saudi Arabian currency, I think.
	I agree with you, dude.
	I think.
	I mean, maybe we'll put it to the panel.
	So of the men that you guys meet, date, whatever, like a lot of you are in college, right?
	I think all of you are in college, right?
	Would you say that most like young guys, they just want to hook up?
	They're not really looking for anything serious.
	I can't give a confident answer on that.
	Yeah.
	Because my boyfriend's young, and that kind of changed it.
	And I've also met older men who are like just not mature at all.
	That's fair.
	And okay, Mike Davis coming in.
	Combined 97 IQ in the room.
	All right.
	Mike, my Venmo is at Gabby Kalin.
	You can talk to her all you want.
	Yeah, she's talking.
	You can talk to her.
	Mike Davis, before the show, Gabby came up to me and she was like, I have a degradation kink.
	So if you Venmo, if you Venmo her, what did you say, cash app?
	Venmo.
	Venmo.
	If you Venmo.
	Yeah.
	She encourages it.
	It's invited.
	All right, guys.
	I'm pretty sure that's it for the super chats here.
	Let's see.
	Do I want to shout out the Twitch?
	Eric, can you, before switching over to the window tab, can you look?
	can you switch it to the twitch no one's so attractive about not not not andrew tate And then I think we got another super chat that just came in.
	It's two inches enough.
	$2 from George.
	Motion of the ocean.
	Motion of the ocean.
	That's all I got to say.
	I like the consistency there with the $2.
	Were you able to pull up Twitch there, Eric?
	Are you on the Twitch tab?
	Oh, perfect.
	Thank you.
	Let's see.
	We got a couple.
	Okay, J card with the bits or the cheers.
	Thank you, man.
	DZoom.
	Just fucking can't see.
	Hold on.
	Scroll back up.
	Scroll back up.
	Smoke toe, thank you for the follow.
	Pantsu, thank you for the follow.
	By the way, guys, we are live.
	I think I forgot to mention this.
	We are simultaneously streaming this on Twitch, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	If you have an Amazon Prime sub, you can sub totally free on Twitch.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can set it up.
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	You can sub every month for free.
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	So, yeah, follow us on Twitch.
	Sub to us on Twitch.
	Oh, don't move that.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, fine, whatever.
	Maybe hit control Z, put it back.
	Well, just, by the way, guys, Calamity Chris, he's been incapacitated.
	So Eric, our very friendly Eric, was helping us out today.
	Anyways, put it back to the full screen there, Eric.
	So I got to gather my thoughts here.
	Oh, that's too loud.
	Fuck it, whatever.
	So we're going to wrap up.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	We'll be live again, I believe, Sunday at 5 p.m., and then we'll be doing the, that's for the interview show, and then we will be live again with the dating talk show Tuesday and Thursday of next week, 7 p.m.
	Thank you to the panel.
	Much appreciated.
	Thank you guys for coming.
	And we will see you next time.
	Thank you.

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