Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #1

Jan. 29, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #1

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	Can we get a one in the chat if you can hear and see us?
	There might be a bit of a delay.
	In any case, welcome to the whatever show.
	We're coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	That's Brian with an X. X is silent.
	You don't pronounce it.
	Joined by my co-host, Andrea, not to be confused with Andrea.
	This is the dating talk show where we talk about dating, debauchery, and relationships.
	Anything goes mostly.
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	Without further ado, let's get right into it.
	So we're going to have the guests, the panel, introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, relationship status, starting with you.
	Okay.
	Hi, I'm Jane.
	I'm 21.
	No, I'm 23.
	It happened in COVID.
	So I'm 23.
	I do OnlyFans and modeling, and I'm single right now.
	Hey, I'm Maya.
	I'm 20 years old, and I'm currently a volleyball coach, and I'm single right now.
	Hi, I'm Kate.
	I'm 21.
	I'm a student and social media person.
	And I'm single.
	Age.
	21.
	And you said social media, like, so what?
	Instagram.
	Okay.
	And are you in school right now?
	I'm in college.
	Studying.
	Studying psychology.
	Okay.
	And you're in college too, right?
	Did you say what your major was?
	No, I'm a psychology major.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	I'm Elise.
	I'm 19.
	I'm taken.
	And I'm a businessman.
	No, I'm a biology major.
	And I am a student athlete.
	I'm Rachel.
	I'm 35 and I have an art business and I'm single.
	Hey, I'm Hensley.
	I'm 22.
	I am currently a stripper.
	And what's the other one?
	Oh, and I'm single.
	At school at all, or yeah, I go to school too.
	I'm in college.
	Do you strip at the Spearmint or where do you strip?
	Yeah, I do too.
	Really?
	I'm also a stripper.
	I didn't know this.
	Do you guys know each other?
	Oh, yeah.
	Just a little.
	Okay.
	I've seen our tips.
	Okay.
	And by the way, for anyone who doesn't know the Spearmint Rhino here in Santa Barbara, it's a gentleman club, gentlemen's club.
	I'm working together.
	Take your money to this.
	Is it full nudity?
	Yeah.
	Coochie out.
	And so that means, by the way, just talking to the microphone right up to the mic.
	So does that mean that you can't serve alcohol there because it's full?
	No alcohol, but a lot of fun.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	By the way, we got our first super chat.
	Chris, can you just highlight the super chat you showed on stream?
	6'4, but still get no play.
	Hey, man, that's that's tough.
	That's unfortunate.
	Sorry.
	Anyways, okay.
	So quick, light, fun question.
	By the way, guys, this is our first show.
	So we appreciate you just kind of taking it easy on us as we're figuring out the kinks here.
	Quick, light, fun question, just to start us off.
	So let's say a guy's chatting you up at the party, club, bar, Trader Joe's, probation office, because I mean, there's a criminal element amongst this panel, I can feel.
	And you like him, right?
	He's good looking.
	He's your type, whatever.
	He asks for your number, right?
	And he reaches into his pocket and pulls out a flip phone.
	Do you reconsider giving him your number?
	No.
	No.
	No way.
	You give him your panties then at that point.
	You give him the panties.
	Oh, absolutely.
	The flip phone.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Panty dropper.
	Okay.
	But it wouldn't deter you.
	I would be deterred just because I don't know if you could have any apps on a flip phone.
	And I like to Snapchat and do Instagram instead of text.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I like a man with no social media.
	So I like that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I agree with Maya.
	No social media is like the best.
	Yeah.
	He could have multiple phones.
	I mean, I know a lot of drug dealers.
	Okay.
	So it could be a trap phone.
	Well, it would be one of my normal day-to-days to know somebody who has multiple phones, and you're not always going to buy an iPhone, right?
	Right.
	Just for texting.
	Okay.
	What about if he pulled out this phone?
	Here, we'll start here with Jane.
	Yeah, hell no.
	Just let me walk away.
	Run, actually.
	Run away.
	Can we get a close-up on the phone, Chris?
	It looks sketchy.
	It's an 80s.
	Okay.
	Any thoughts?
	Yeah, no, thank you.
	Okay.
	No.
	Deal breaker.
	All right, guys.
	That's a red fluck.
	It's a red flag.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	So first question of the night, and this is sort of the namesake of the title of the show.
	Does a guy's height matter?
	And Hensley, we're going to start with you.
	Well, I think a guy, if he's short, he can't be skinny too.
	Like he can be my height or a little shorter, but he has to make up for that in girth, not sexually.
	So penis size.
	No.
	Oh, girth.
	Like just muscularity.
	It's so ready to pick you up.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	So height, not such a big deal, at least as your height or taller or you.
	I mean, it can even be a couple inches shorter as long as it's not short and skinny because then you're just small.
	You're not short.
	Okay.
	So manlet, like a short, just rips guy will do it for you.
	Okay.
	Oh, no man lits.
	So a manlet is just short, but super jacked.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Rachel.
	To the mic.
	Height matters.
	Okay.
	I guess I just don't want to kiss down.
	Like, I'll take care of you, baby.
	So like, what, I guess ideal height for you?
	Imagine he's like, which is cute with like a model type with like the body and everything, but I'm like curvy.
	And so I don't think it would fit.
	He'd be like, wouldn't look right.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Not that I care what other people think.
	It's just I see myself and him in my mind.
	And if it's wrong, I just okay.
	I'm talking like at least two inches shorter or more.
	That's the cutoff.
	But so you would date a guy like you're a height?
	Yeah, my height.
	Or above.
	And how tall are you?
	5'7.
	5'7.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah, height definitely matters.
	I'm 5'11.
	So I need a guy who's taller than me.
	So we can have some D1 babies.
	There you go.
	How tall is your current boyfriend?
	6'2.
	6'2?
	Okay.
	Have you ever dated a guy shorter than you?
	Never.
	Only tall guys.
	Only tall guys.
	Yeah, I can't do short ones.
	It's just so unfortunate.
	Okay.
	I think the height does matter to me.
	And I like the guys like six feet and taller than me because I'm myself 5'9.
	And I like, I don't know how to explain it, but I like feel like a little girl when a guy like taller than me and he like can pick me up, carry around, you know?
	So I like this feeling.
	Okay.
	You know, be protected also.
	Got it.
	I don't personally care that much.
	A lot of my exes have been really short, but not shorter than me.
	That's like my cutoff.
	Okay, not shorter.
	But I don't really care.
	I think you just need confidence and that's okay.
	Yeah, I definitely agree on the confidence.
	I've dated some short kings and I'm 5'3, but I like to wear heels all the time.
	But if I'm taller than the guy with heels on, I'm totally fine with that.
	I think it's kind of hot to like switch it up.
	So yeah, I've never cared as long as like you can't be short and insecure.
	You have to own your shortness because you can't change it.
	So you just, you have to own it.
	So various dating apps.
	Are any of you on any dating apps?
	Maybe a show of hands.
	Just are you on a dating app or have been on a dating app?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So I don't know if Tinder, is anyone on Tinder right now?
	Do they have a height section?
	Because I haven't been on Tinder in a minute.
	I think on Hinge.
	I don't know how to hide.
	in hinge i know in hinge they have yeah hinge and bumble they have a height section but But what do you think about if, you know, in the same way that there's a height field on Bubble and Hinge, if there was a weight field?
	What do you think about that?
	Jane, let's start with you.
	I personally think that height and weight are just things that don't matter to me necessarily.
	Like I'd like to meet the person first and see how we vibe.
	So I personally wouldn't put my height or my weight on a dating app.
	I think that's like kind of weird.
	Like no one needs that info.
	You can just meet them in person first.
	But if it matters to some people, then I hope you find that.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I don't think weight really matters.
	Neither does height.
	And I think if you like their photos and they're not a catfish, then it really doesn't matter.
	I mean, I rely on his personality and I don't really care much about weight.
	At least, I mean, how he treats me.
	Okay.
	I mean, to be honest, it's all about preference.
	See, like height and weight.
	I mean, everyone's different.
	So I think if they're going to put height, they might as well put weight.
	If you're going to care about one thing, you might as well care about the other.
	Got it.
	I think I'd just get confused if they put weight and then I'd have to think about a whole nother thing.
	Height, I'm sure about and whole ratio thing of like how much he should weigh if he's six four versus five eight is too complicated for me.
	So I'd rather not see it.
	Might scare me off.
	I feel like those on dating apps, it kind of goes by if you want to volunteer that information.
	And I feel like the people who would want to volunteer the information of their weight are probably the guys that are a little too much into their weight.
	So for me, it would almost be like a red flag if you put your height and weight and be like, we get it.
	Okay, cool.
	Could have found that out myself.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	So you would all be in favor of a weight field on a dating app for both men and women.
	Like a weight.
	You know how there's a height?
	A weight field?
	I think it's just a red flag.
	Like she said, if somebody put a weight in their profile.
	Okay.
	I feel like maybe they're lying like most guys lie on Tinder about their height.
	About the height.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	They round up.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So next question, sort of related to the height thing.
	Does a guy's size matter in the bulge?
	Start with over here.
	It's the motion of the ocean kind of thing.
	I know that's a lame answer, but I mean, like, yeah, it's more how long they last and what they do with it.
	It's kind of like with the height, if it's too far off, it can be a problem.
	But for the most part, there's like a really big zone.
	It's fine.
	Big zone?
	Yeah, like the zone is big.
	There's a zone of like, that's okay.
	Normal is like flexible.
	Okay.
	I think it just depends, like how you work with it.
	That's all that really matters.
	I don't think it matters.
	So yeah.
	I just think it matters.
	It all matters how he uses it.
	because it can be small or big and he can know how to use it or not so i think it does matter i don't it has to be above average and yeah it's about the motion of the ocean but with the size uh yeah from experience i've literally been with a guy with like a micro dick and i've been with guys with like huge talks and like both of them have been awesome.
	It just depends what else they do.
	Like it's not just about what's in their pants.
	You have fingers, you have like toys and stuff.
	So yeah, I think it doesn't have to matter if that's not the only thing that you're working with.
	So if he wasn't quite packing in the bulge department, maybe the let's say the first hookup, it wasn't great.
	Aside from the bulge thing, if a guy's performance first time isn't great, will there be a second date?
	Wait, so first time you hook up with a guy, but the performance wasn't great.
	But, you know, who knows, maybe it could get better down the road.
	Certainly that's something that you guys could practice.
	If the performance the first time those bad, is it just that's a wrap, like onto the next one, or you're going to give the guy a chance?
	I mean, yeah, like unless they have like a really awesome personality, that's, I'm kind of over it, you know, like that's it.
	We tried it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd probably give them a second chance.
	Probably.
	Well, he was nervous and that's why he didn't perform well.
	So it could be.
	I would give a chance for sure.
	Yeah, I agree with like personality.
	If it was like he had a great personality, I'd probably definitely go back for a second chance.
	Yeah, I'm a Libra, so that's fair.
	A Libra?
	Just a show of hands, like at the table.
	Who here believes in astrology?
	That's so general.
	Like there's so many things that seem a bit of hesitance.
	Gray areas.
	Just speaking to mind.
	There's gray areas.
	Like with religion, this is so touchy, but like you can believe in astrology without believing in everything everybody says about astrology.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so what is your?
	What like?
	What's your sign?
	Or um okay, got it yeah um, and did you?
	Sorry, did you answer the previous thing about?
	No um, I could be convinced to go on a second date.
	The first one, I like give them the credit, and or give myself all the credit.
	I'm like wow, i'm fantastic.
	And then the second time, if they still suck, then i'm like, you suck oh wow, okay.
	So it's kind of like they're just, they're gone.
	I don't know if you've seen 300 anyways, by the way chat, chat.
	So can you, everyone in chat, can you type a one if you're getting a bit of echo on the soundboard here?
	I'm just gonna play one, just so you know.
	Uh, let's see.
	Uh, all the mommies, all the mommies, just one in chat if you hear a bit of an echo on the soundboard stuff.
	We're still troubleshooting that.
	Um, did we get a couple super chats, Chris?
	We got three.
	Or oh wow okay, as a 5'5 male, I can't change my height yet can be instantly filtered out of the naps, and overweight person can change, which is why I think it makes even more sense to list weight over height thoughts.
	Uh, ten dollars from Stephen Krug.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Man five, five male.
	Um well, first off bro, solidarity dude, um yeah uh, that's tough.
	Um I, it is sort of like interesting though, like you said, you don't really have control over your height, but like you do have control over your weight, but I don't know, I feel like with weight you can sort of suss that out from a photo, you know, whereas height it's a bit more hard to tell.
	So yeah, but I guess sort of to reframe your chat a little bit and i'll ask the panel this, um, do you think it's okay and I, I think it's okay um, to some degree if women have a height preference, and we'll start with you, Jane.
	Do you think it's okay if a woman's like i'll only date a guy who's six feet and above?
	Yeah, I mean, I think it's fine, like everyone gets to have whatever preference they want to have.
	Um like, I think everyone has preferences.
	So yeah, it's okay, like you might find less people or whatever, but everyone, like has bias.
	So yeah yeah, exactly what she said.
	I agree with her.
	Yes, I agree.
	Okay, I think everyone can have a preference, but you get sweeped off your feet by people you didn't think would like.
	They'll just walk down the street and you're like, oh wow, didn't expect to be attracted to them, and then you are.
	I mean, i've definitely had some people where i'm like, they're definitely not my type, but for some reason i'm attracted to them right, that was a good answer.
	Um, so then would you guys similarly, would you not object to if a guy had a similar preference where he's like, listen, I will only date a woman who's 120 pounds or less?
	Would, would you object or would you find that off-putting or offensive?
	Um, I think it's how you frame it.
	Um, not being the dick about it, just yeah, like you did.
	I don't know if y'all ever saw that show.
	I think it was like, Love Is Blind.
	But Shaq he, just every person like this one guy talked to.
	He's like, could I carry you on my shoulders, like.
	And then, if he couldn't do that, he just cut him off and everyone was like, oh, you're a dick like, but I think it's just how you approach it.
	Basically, I don't think it's fair to cut somebody off uh, based on their weight.
	No, but you're, but.
	But so you're okay with the height one.
	Well, life is really long and weight fluctuates, but height doesn't.
	So but could couldn't someone make the argument that weight is something that is more in someone's control, whereas height, that's just kind of like you can't really change?
	I mean, there's a very invasive surgery that I think I don't Know the exact procedure, but like they lengthen your legs or something.
	But I mean, that's super intense.
	So, I mean, could we potentially even say that it's more superficial to have a high preference versus having a weight preference just because that's something within people's control?
	Um, sure, I don't want to argue that point.
	I guess it's okay to disagree, by the way.
	You can feel free to disagree.
	I'm not going to be upset, just stoking conversation.
	Nobody can really tell anybody that they're not attracted to them because of height or weight.
	I just wouldn't.
	That's what I mean.
	Because, um, especially if somebody started out one weight and then I saw them again and they were a different weight.
	I mean, it really depends on how much you like them.
	Okay.
	Yeah, weight does fluctuate, and there's so many like components to weight, like hormones and XYZ.
	So, I mean, I get it, it is preference, but at the end of the day, sometimes people cannot control like how much they are weighing.
	Okay, uh, I think I mean, it depends because I mean, we have a preference on height, and they have preference on weight, and I feel like it's a right to have a preference, and also, like, sometimes you can also control the weight, like based on the height, or hormones, or diets, or genetics, also.
	But I feel like, yeah, people should have preference, you know, normally girls.
	Um, I personally would care because I would see that as somebody only being attracted to someone based on what they look like, which is the opposite of what I find in attraction of people and people.
	So, I wouldn't be necessarily offended, but I would be like, okay, yeah, I'm not going to be your friend or talk to you in that way.
	Yeah, I definitely agree.
	I'd say, like, you're fair to you can have whatever preference you want, but like, if your preference is all centered by weight or height, honestly, like, I'm probably not your girl.
	Okay, got it, got it.
	Chris, can we uh pull up that other super chat?
	I think we missed that one, just Lucas.
	Yeah, we can show that one, Lucas Schlater.
	Thank you for the five Euro, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you for the support.
	Um, and there's actually, Chris, there's been some funny chats that have been popping up in just the non-super chats.
	So, um, maybe we can just read a few of these just for fun.
	Rainbow Hair is the winner so far.
	Uh, yeah, check out her OnlyFans.
	Wait, can I say something?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I just want to respond.
	I saw a comment saying I was like promoting my OnlyFans and capping about the micro dick, but it is on my OnlyFans, so I wasn't capping.
	You can see it if you want, just putting that out there.
	No cap.
	What's sorry?
	I just thought, and just out of curiosity, what kind of content?
	Because some people cook on OnlyFans.
	What kind of content are we talking about?
	I don't cook.
	Okay.
	So, nudity.
	Yeah, and sex.
	Oh, so you have a do you have a partner with whoever wants?
	Like, if anyone wants to join.
	Oh, wait, so you so your subscribers can if I like them, if they're hot, then yes, they can.
	You will fuck your theoretically.
	I will fuck a subscriber.
	Okay.
	If potentially after they spend a bit of money if they pay me, yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Is that a crime technically?
	No.
	Oh, well, no, it's porn.
	Yeah, it's not prostitution.
	It's porn.
	This great family guy clip where it's like some police breaking into a hotel room, and they're like, it's a prostitute, and they're like, hands up, and then they're like, oh no, there's a camera over there.
	And then they're like, oh, okay, nothing to see here, and walk away.
	So it's just kind of funny how prostitution.
	Yeah, how prostitution is legalized.
	But if you just put your iPhone on the tripod, all of a sudden it could be legal.
	To me, that's a big I agree.
	I don't think prostitution should be illegal.
	While we're on the time, very similar.
	Should prostitution be legal or illegal?
	And you kind of already answered it.
	I think it should be legal.
	Okay.
	In a safe way, if they're being good question because I'm from prostitution that's legal there, but it's like, I don't know, honestly.
	I don't know.
	Can't say that.
	Also, with that, sex trafficking, that's that's it's hard to draw a line of what actually is their choice and what they're actually being forced to do.
	So I think it's really hard to tell like which is.
	So it's a little hard to choose.
	Yeah, I actually was just in Europe and in Amsterdam, they have the red light district where prostitution is totally legalized, but because of that, it's really safe in that district.
	So everyone gets tested.
	You're all registered.
	There's certain places where like the girls can go and do their thing.
	So I think if prostitution was legalized somewhere like here, California, like that, it would feel really safe.
	But unless they want to help make sure that there's free testing and access, there's no point in legalizing it because it's not going to be safe for everyone that way.
	Yeah, I think it should be legal and it should just be safe work.
	So I agree.
	Yeah, like Las Vegas, where you have to register and they have panic buttons.
	And that just seems more reasonable.
	Yeah, it's going to keep happening whether it's legalized or not.
	I think it's just whether you want to take a safe route or not.
	But also, if anything, it should at least be decriminalized because we all know it's going to happen.
	Like at this point, it's just whether like it's like a if you get caught kind of thing, which isn't cool.
	I mean, we already have enough of an overload in jails and prisons.
	It's just, it's a silly thing to criminalize people for.
	I'm in favor of prostitution.
	I don't know if I would engage in it, but I do think it should be legal, should be legalized.
	So, Chris, can you pull up that super chat I missed?
	Stephen Krug, again, thank you.
	I think Stephen sent the other one.
	Stephen, thank you so much, man, for the $10 super chat.
	What's more important?
	Wealth or height of a guy?
	If you had to have an opinion, Hensley, let's start with you.
	Wealth.
	Well, OK.
	All right.
	I know.
	Height.
	It's like heads or tails.
	So height for you?
	Height.
	Okay, height's more important.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Wealth for sure.
	Because I want to be like very successful and take care of my friends and family.
	So wealth for sure.
	Can I see?
	Yeah.
	I think wealth because myself want to be successful in reach and also want to have a partner that's also on the same level as me.
	Yeah.
	Wealth for sure.
	Yeah.
	Also wealth, definitely.
	What do you think, Andrea?
	Can we either close up on Andrea and Andrea?
	Not to be confused with Andrea.
	Okay.
	She's shy.
	Next.
	So I think someone commented this because they were curious.
	I don't remember where the comment was.
	Don't worry, Chris.
	You don't have to try to pull it up.
	Starting with Jane, on a scale of one to 10, what do you rate yourself?
	Like, is this like everything included in the package?
	Let's just say like looks strictly.
	And if you want, you could break, you could even break it down like face body.
	Okay.
	Or you could just do overall.
	I'd give myself an eight.
	Like, I'd say have like really good tits and a cute ass and a good smile.
	So I'd say an eight, but I don't know.
	I'm like completely natural and I feel like it changes if girls have stuff done, which is totally cool.
	But yeah, an eight.
	I think that changes every day.
	How I think I would rate myself on a good day.
	I can go for a seven.
	On a bad day, it can be really low below five, below three.
	But that's just, you know, your own issues, your own insecurities.
	And yeah.
	So what was the question?
	So on a scale of one to ten, what would you rate your physical attractiveness or appearance?
	I think I would rate myself as like eight, like my physical appearance and my personality ten.
	Personality 10.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And sorry, and you rated, did you give you a rating or is it you said it fluxed?
	For my personality or for looks.
	Yeah, it changes every day.
	It's not really a set number.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	I kind of agree, but I think like just based on looks, I'd probably say like 6.5.
	10.
	10.
	Like it's hard to sell.
	Like everyone has different reactions to me.
	I'm not everyone's like taste.
	So I would say maybe 7-ish.
	As royalty, I wasn't trained to talk about my appearances.
	She does have a Tiara.
	There is a Tiara.
	So I'll have to omit my.
	You're omitting.
	Okay.
	That was a good answer.
	I'll give myself a nine.
	I'm pretty confident.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Do you, let me see, hold on here.
	Do you know women who think, maybe a friend or something, who think they're more attractive than they actually are?
	I mean, I think confidence is attractive.
	I think if you have confidence, you're attractive.
	There's beauty in everybody.
	It's really hard to just say one person's not beautiful, one person is beautiful, because it comes with everything, your personality, how you treat others, the contributions you've done for the world, just everything.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Chris, you want to pull up the super chat?
	Oh, I'm five, six, but the money make it six, four.
	Okay, there you go.
	I don't know if you guys seen there's this trend on TikTok.
	It's like sort of a template.
	Trying to find it here.
	Let's see.
	So it's like, and maybe we could like go around the table and try.
	So I don't know about this, but so it holds the format.
	He's, he's a, for example, he's a 10, but he has like either X negative quality or X positive quality.
	And then you readjust his score based on, you know, what that, if that's a detractor or a negative.
	So he's an eight, but he wears flip-flops, Hensley.
	Oh, socks, no socks.
	Socks.
	With the flip-flops.
	Shorts.
	Oh, that boosts.
	Okay.
	flip-flops are okay It's California.
	Right?
	I'd say 10.
	I love socks and sandals.
	I rock that every single day.
	Okay, it makes him a 10.
	Okay.
	I guess like six because I'm not a big fan of flip-flops when I avert myself, but I think it would be attractive if we got word on the date.
	Definitely a 10.
	No question.
	Yeah, I'd say 10 too.
	I think it's funny.
	Okay.
	Good to know.
	Good to know.
	How about he's a nine, but he will not go down on you.
	Zero.
	Negative one.
	Yeah, he just dropped out of my book.
	Do the hands like play a part too, or is it just all extras outside of sex?
	He just doesn't like to give head, but he'll use toys.
	He'll use hands.
	I don't know if this will adjust it for you guys either, but it wouldn't drop him too much, though.
	Maybe like a seven.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I changed my answer to like six, five.
	Okay.
	Maybe I should reframe this question a bit differently.
	Would it be a deal breaker for you if a guy did not want to go down on you?
	And we'll just start here again.
	It depends on his reasons.
	Like if he's just like, yeah, no, I'm just not a fan of it.
	I'd be like, okay.
	But if he's like, nah, like pussies smell.
	And they're like, then I'd be like, okay, like, fuck off.
	Sorry.
	Get out or something like that.
	That's a good take.
	Like, yeah.
	Yeah, I want to know why.
	And also, you know, maybe he's saving it till marriage.
	I don't know.
	He's saving the oral for marriage.
	But is he having sex before then?
	No, like, what is it?
	Because if you're having sex, I get that.
	Why don't you want to be down there?
	That's a mystery.
	That's the mystery.
	Okay.
	Deal breaker.
	For sure.
	Deal breaker.
	100%.
	What if he has a good reason?
	What's the reason?
	Because I'm not going to believe it.
	He has a speech impediment.
	That doesn't affect that.
	His tongue's all kinds of fucking.
	I can get that clip.
	Clipped.
	Tongue-tied.
	There's a surgery for that.
	Yes, there is.
	Okay, I'm trying to think of like a reason a guy wouldn't want to do it.
	He doesn't have a tongue.
	Trauma?
	Yeah.
	Like when he was.
	I mean, I don't know.
	There's just a very bushy time and by just speaking to the microphone.
	Maybe trauma or something else could come into that.
	But I would definitely would be like a deal breaker.
	Deal breaker.
	Yeah, I mean.
	Yeah.
	Deal breaker.
	Yeah, I can't think of like a good excuse.
	So deal breaker.
	Yeah.
	Wait, can I interrupt?
	I got one.
	Sure, sure.
	His ex grinded on his face so hard, it broke his nose.
	And I named it.
	That's a pretty good excuse.
	That is trauma.
	First-hand experience.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Good to know.
	So I have a confession to make to the panel.
	Okay.
	Related to the last question I just asked.
	I'm going to admit it.
	I don't like it.
	Okay.
	I don't like to do it.
	I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
	And that's that.
	That's when was that?
	2008.
	So isn't that?
	I just said don't expect head then.
	I get that, sort of, kind of.
	It is a bit different.
	What's your issue?
	What's my issue?
	Like, what's your reason?
	So, you know, it's a couple things.
	I've got neck.
	I've got a neck problem.
	Chris, Chris can, well, Chris can't attest to it in that context, but I've got neck problems.
	There's different positions.
	I would say, here's, I guess it also depends.
	Maybe I should qualify the previous question because let's say a guy's not willing to go down on you like the first time you guys hook up, but like once you're in a monogamous relationship, maybe what, so would that be a deal breaker?
	Well, would you expect head from her while you're not giving her head?
	I wouldn't expect it, but I would say that it's a bit different.
	Insofar, well, insofar as what one person finds they're not comfortable with, maybe the other person, that it doesn't have to be a tit for tat thing.
	In the same way, for example, and by the way, I'm not saying that it wouldn't be an expectation if I didn't want to do it and the girl was like, well, like what if the girl had already given you head and then she was like, okay, it's time to switch.
	So she was expecting that.
	And then you were like, oh, I actually don't do that.
	And then she's like, oh, well, fuck, I'm out then.
	Like, not going to continue the act.
	How would that make you feel?
	I mean, I guess the thing I would compare it to is, let's say, let's compare it to like anal sex.
	Some women would not be comfortable having anal sex, even though that's something the guy would enjoy doing.
	I know it's a bit different, but I think everyone has their own boundaries and what they like or don't like.
	And I don't think it has to be a tit for tat thing, but I would totally understand if the girl was like, well, if you're not willing to go down on me, I won't go down on you.
	I understand it.
	But I don't think that necessarily has to be the case.
	I think just make sure you're getting her wet if you're not going to go down on her.
	She comes first.
	That's my rule.
	She has to come first.
	I don't always succeed.
	But if you expect a girl to give you a hat, so you also should give her a hat too.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, let's be fair.
	She give you a blowjob and you eat her pussy.
	I will say it takes me being a certain level of comfortable with someone before I even get pleasure from head, honestly.
	So that wouldn't be necessarily a deal breaker for me.
	But I really, I'm very confident in my head game.
	So like I love giving head because I know what I'm capable of.
	So like for me, like I kind of like the idea of like, yeah, we don't do that until we're like a lot closer with each other.
	Like I'd be cool with that.
	Would anybody object like if the guy, the first time you're hooking up, he's like, I only want to do that in a relationship or when we're monogamous?
	That's fair.
	I think that's fair.
	I wouldn't want to do it on the first hookup with like a rando.
	So no, yeah.
	For sure.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Oh man, I'm got some got some hate on that one.
	Let's see.
	Okay.
	Did I miss any super chats, Chris?
	No.
	Okay.
	We're good.
	What are some challenges that you guys face in dating?
	Jane, we'll start with you.
	I feel like definitely just meeting people.
	Like I've been in Santa Barbara for six years and it's kind of a weird age because like I already graduated, like don't want the college hookup life.
	But there's like a big older population in Santa Barbara too.
	Like it's kind of weird for people in like their mid-20s.
	So I guess like that's a struggle, just finding places to meet people besides dating apps.
	I think trusting people.
	I've had really bad experiences with exes with like trust issues and cheating and whatnot.
	So I think trusting somebody and getting allowing myself to get close enough with somebody to trust them because I won't trust them.
	But yeah.
	For me, it's important is trust before I even like let them to see my body and have like intimacy.
	Because from my past experience that when you give your like, you know, you give you like pussy to a guy, he just kind of take convention dad.
	And secondly, it's just sex is not that good the first time.
	And this promotions.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry, continue.
	Continue.
	You're good.
	Elise.
	Communication is like also leading to trust.
	If you don't have communication, it's super hard to be in a relationship.
	I agree with that.
	And trust and everything everybody's been saying because I want to feel like I know somebody truly before I get there.
	So it might take a while, but depends how much you hang out and how much you communicate.
	For me, I think the hardest thing is that most people that are really out there looking for a relationship or something serious, they're looking for their other half.
	But the thing is, I am 100% of a person and I don't want half of a person where they're going to take away from me to fill their voids and fill their needs.
	I want another human being who is evolved and independent and loves themselves so much where they're not asking of me to love them because they are lacking it in themselves.
	Got it.
	Next question.
	Do you believe that women shouldn't be judged by the amount of men they've slept with?
	In other words, like body count.
	I don't think you should be judged.
	Hold on, sorry.
	Let's start over here with Judge.
	I mean, everyone's fair to like have their own judgments.
	So if someone isn't comfortable with the number that a girl has been with or a guy, then you don't have to get with that person.
	But I mean, I do think like it's in your past how many people you've gotten with.
	So it doesn't necessarily matter to me.
	Let me just reframe the question.
	Should body count matter or should the amount of people you've slept with in your past matter?
	No, like as long as you're clean and like healthy with all that, I don't think it matters.
	Okay, so no.
	No.
	I'd say no.
	I mean, I would understand some feelings towards it.
	I don't want to necessarily be with somebody who's constantly getting with other people because then I just wouldn't feel special in a way, but I wouldn't be too upset.
	I would just say no, yeah.
	No.
	I think it shouldn't matter because it's a past and plus it's none of their business, you know?
	Plus, how it can like affect your like relationship with this person.
	Like it's just a like, it's just number.
	It's nothing.
	Yeah, I don't think it matters.
	And if it does matter, it should go both ways.
	Like the girls count matter, then the boys' counts matter as well.
	Okay.
	Yeah, honestly, I don't know who's going to ask.
	Like, who is this guy who's trying to date me and then ask me how many men I've slept with in the world before I met him?
	A number?
	What?
	I think it goes back to kind of like the last answer I gave where I'm like, it really depends on what you're doing it for.
	Like if you really enjoy sex and you've slept with 200 people, do it.
	But if you're doing it to try and fill some type of void or like something within yourself, then that's where you kind of have to.
	And I think you can really tell the people who are sleeping with a lot of people because they're missing something in themselves compared to people who just like to have sex.
	So I think like not from a place of judgment.
	I just think there are two different views you can take from it of someone who is very open about having a high number.
	Okay.
	So it seems like it's a pretty resounding doesn't matter from the panel.
	So my follow-up question would be if you're brave enough to answer, what's your body count?
	I think I'm at like, I have a fuck list.
	You girls and guys or just guys?
	Let's do the two, I guess.
	25.
	Total.
	Okay.
	Do you know the breakdown between?
	I think it's like nine women and the rest, guys.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What was the question?
	What's like, how many people have you hooked up with?
	I knew it wasn't that question.
	It is.
	I have never tried to think about it, but it's got to be less than a dozen.
	Okay.
	I plead the fifth.
	Plead the fifth.
	But wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Didn't you say it doesn't matter or shouldn't matter?
	Yeah.
	But so if it doesn't matter, why?
	Why plead the fifth?
	Because that's nobody's business, but my own.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You go, Remy.
	You go.
	It's a secret.
	It's a secret.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm going to keep that one private.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	A lot of people pleading the fifth here.
	I never finished my fuck list.
	So probably around the same, like around 25, 30, but I kind of lost track.
	And I think that should be, I think that should be totally chill, you know?
	Like, have fun.
	Okay.
	So I guess my follow-up question would be, you know, one, if body count really didn't matter, wouldn't you want to be the change that you want to see in the world?
	Because if there's, why is it that there's hesitation?
	And by the way, you guys are free to not answer the question, but I'm curious, what is the hesitation in revealing?
	We're women.
	I mean, there's a huge social difference.
	I mean, there's this one video, but it's like, you ask a bunch of girls, does body count matter?
	We'll say, no, it's fine as long as they're safe and clean.
	You ask a guy, they'll tap out at three.
	They'll say four.
	They're very way harsher on us.
	And that's because of like all these standards and expectations, you know, like all of this stigma that's surrounded around sex, but only for women.
	So, I mean, I see like we're entitled to our privacy because that's not something we get encouraged to say or we get boosted up or get prided on, whereas men, when they have a high number, it's like, yeah, dude, you know, it's the cliche kind of thing.
	So you think there's a bit of a double standard between men and women in terms of how they're viewed.
	Yeah, there's standards.
	I heard, I've seen this video on TikTok when they ask girls and men, they body count, and the guys just say three or two or five, and girls, they don't care.
	So, yeah.
	So you guys wouldn't be concerned, like, let's say a guy you were just seeing either, I don't know what the context would be of him revealing it, but you knew that he had slept with, say, 100 women.
	Would this be off-putting to you in any way?
	I have an ex whose body count, his was like 200, and it just came up randomly one night.
	And he was the first and only guy to make me squirt.
	So I think that much sex taught him how to do it in a good way.
	Yeah, I don't know, to be honest.
	I've never met somebody who has or hooked up with that has that I know of at least.
	I think it'd matter how far apart, like if there was a lot within one week, I would be a little questionable, make sure they're clean, go through processes and stuffs to make sure they're clean.
	But yeah, depends.
	I mean, I never met a guy that has like 100 body count, but I guess I wouldn't judge if we even have like 100 body counts because it's all matter of his personality, how he treats me.
	Yeah, I don't think it would matter.
	Like I said, body count doesn't matter.
	So your boyfriend, he reveals to you, and maybe you already know the answer, but he says I've slept with 300 women.
	Not like unfazed.
	Doesn't bother you at all.
	No.
	Okay.
	It matters to me.
	I guess I would probably wonder if they were a player and have a hard time trusting them if it was that high.
	I say if he has a high number and he wants to add me to the roster, I'm going to make him work very hard for it.
	But it wouldn't necessarily deter me.
	It would just make it more of a game.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	So I guess we can kind of go into a bit of the double standard and I guess why it exists.
	Because I do think, and you guys can feel free to disagree with me, but I think the double standard is as such.
	So a guy who sleeps with a lot of women is sort of big upped.
	That's awesome.
	Good for you.
	Like he's a player.
	He's a stud, whatever.
	But if a girl like hooks up a lot of guys, she's going to be viewed.
	If she's promiscuous, she's going to be viewed in a negative light.
	She's a slut, all this stuff, right?
	And could part of that be, well, maybe I shouldn't phrase this as a question, but could part of that be because it is more difficult for men to get laid than it is for women?
	And you might disagree with that premise that it's more difficult for men to get laid than it is for women.
	Oh, but it is.
	So you would agree, though, that it is more difficult for men.
	Oh, I mean, men are the easiest thing on earth.
	Like, how many guys have I wanted to get with?
	I've gone with every guy I've ever wanted to be with.
	How many guys that wanted, have wanted to get with me have actually gone with me?
	Very few, you know, like, like me and Kleifa said it correctly, like there's been a few dusties that have caught me slipping that have gotten in, but in reality, like, yeah, no, it's definitely not.
	What is a dusty, by the way?
	I'm an old man, so, you know, I'm not hip to the.
	Make your assumptions that dusty's just someone who probably shouldn't have made it, but they got sure.
	Okay anyways, we'll continue here.
	I don't even know what to say about this one.
	Come back to me um, what was the question?
	Yeah, I kind of forgot um, I think.
	Oh so, talking about double standards um, there was sort of like an intermediary question that came in there.
	Uh, do you think that men have or I guess I could frame it who has more difficult time when it comes to getting late, getting sex, men or women?
	Um yeah, probably men, because women, I feel like, just have so many more options and it's just so much easier.
	I, I think men because um, they have to like impress or do something to like, you know, to get late.
	And girls, for girls, we have a lot of options, for sure, and be more like peaky.
	So, I mean, depends on girl too.
	And the guys yeah, it's hard for them to get late, since we're just peaky, got it.
	Yeah, definitely men, it's harder for them.
	Jane yeah, I guess, like it could be harder for a guy to get a girl um, but I mean yeah, you mean, I mean like, if you disagree with anyone, by the way, I feel yeah, I mean like, I guess it's, I don't.
	Actually, if you're like putting yourself out there and just being yourself, I feel like I, I don't know, I would hope that like, you'd find someone.
	Okay, got it, got it um, so i'm trying to bring it back.
	I I also kind of forgot what my reset there.
	Uh, we were talking about double standards and oh right, so the double standard as it relates to, you know, men are big, big upped if they've slept with a lot of women, and women are kind of shamed if they've slept with a lot of women, and but do you feel that that is justified or do you think that no, like that shouldn't be a double standard?
	Yeah, I think it shouldn't be a double standard.
	Um like, just as we were saying earlier, how like dudes are like applauded if they've gotten with a lot of chicks, but then, if girls have gotten with a lot of guys, or like other girls or anyone um, they are often slut shamed.
	But I mean for me, like I just like to own it.
	Um, but it shouldn't be a double standard.
	I mean, like humans like sex, so why does it matter if you do it a lot?
	Completely agree, kind of said it better.
	Yeah I, i'm agree with her completely.
	Yes, I agree too.
	Yep, I agree.
	Perfect, i'll second that.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it, Chris.
	How are we doing on uh, super chats?
	Do we have any?
	I think we.
	If it's more than two, she's for the streets.
	Come on, man.
	That's why you can only pay two dollars.
	You pay for this two dollars to see this man get it every day, our every day.
	Edger, every day, every day.
	Edgar, he's a handsome guy.
	Look at that guy.
	Oh man, this glasses.
	I agree with you, Edgar.
	Oh my gosh, i'm impressed anyways.
	Um, so we have two girls.
	Wait, so we have two girls who strip on the panel, Hensley and Jane.
	Uh but Hensley, do you do only fans or just stripping?
	Just stripping, just stripping.
	Okay, all right.
	Um, so I think a lot of guys would be curious to know a little bit, since you both strip.
	Is stripper the appropriate term?
	Do you prefer exotic dancer?
	No, stripper.
	Stripper.
	300%.
	Okay.
	What?
	And if you guys are uncomfortable sharing this, but like we're pretty confident.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, like, are you guys down to talk a little bit about money in terms of like what you make in a night?
	How kind of like I know there's you get private dances.
	Maybe that's where you make a bit more.
	Then you do the show on the I've been there like twice, 10 years ago.
	People will you could come tonight.
	Oh, you guys are working after this.
	Anybody watching in Santa Barbara, Jane will be at the Spearmint Rhino dancing.
	Anyways, so Jane, why don't you start off?
	Tell us a bit about money.
	Well, so basically I graduated from UCSB last year and I was a dance major.
	So like hence the dance background.
	I feel like it really depends on the night.
	And that's why a lot of us have day jobs too.
	Just because like one night you'll make a thousand.
	My best nights ever have been on Monday nights.
	I made $3,000 on two different Monday nights just because like one guy came in and just like was with me the whole night.
	But that's rare.
	I mean like right now I've been averaging probably like 400 a night.
	So 3,000 versus 400 is a big difference.
	So that's why I also do OnlyFans and other side gigs just to keep money going when it's not a good day or month.
	Okay.
	And you said you had a regular that used to come and but he's not coming anymore.
	Oh no, that was just like usually like when it happens like that, it's like a random business guy.
	Like this guy was just coked out and maxed out his card the whole night with me.
	And I just like, he would have done that to any girl.
	I just got lucky that I was the one working there.
	And I feel like that's kind of how it goes for most of us there.
	And we all try to support each other.
	Like if one guy's spending a lot, we'll kind of try to pass him around and stuff.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So about 400 a night?
	Right now.
	We're in a little recession.
	So like last summer I was making like a thousand a night was like my goal every night.
	And this summer I haven't made a thousand yet in one night at the club.
	But I feel like strippers all around America, all around America are actually like feeling this issue right now.
	Like we've all talked about it.
	So yeah.
	Okay.
	And Henry.
	Yeah, I mean, she definitely covered a big part of it.
	I normally have been working like since I started 10 months ago.
	I always did Tuesdays and Thursdays and made pretty good money, like around 500 a night, 400 a night.
	And then the last like month, I decided to try and start doing Fridays because I know they get way busier.
	What I didn't realize is Fridays is when all the college kids come in and all the young guys are just passing and want to party and they don't spend money.
	But like, you know, you go in on like a Thursday or a Tuesday and it's just these businessmen and then they're getting all the VIPs and that's where the real money comes in, which is a lot of fun.
	And how much, I mean, is it three, four hours you guys are working or?
	I normally only do like three and a half hours, four hour shifts.
	Yeah, it depends.
	I mean, like on the weekends, the clubs open until 4 a.m.
	So welcome, Bobby.
	Got it.
	To the haters, I support entrepreneurship, respect people that put down other.
	Sorry, let me read this properly.
	Stephen Krug, thank you for the $10.69 super chat.
	Much appreciated.
	To the haters, I support entrepreneurship, respect what whatever is doing.
	People that put down others, there's no excuse.
	These women could probably buy every day, every day Edgar's family.
	Okay, so there's apparently there's a little battle in the chat between Stephen Krug and another super chatter.
	Let's, Chris, let's get caught up on some super chats really quick.
	Stephen Krug with the $25 donut.
	Thank you, man.
	Everyday Edgar is probably poor.
	Hey, we, wow, there's a battle between them in the super chats.
	You know, let's not be too mean to Everyday Edgar.
	Did he say something offensive?
	He only gave us $2.
	It's more than two.
	Oh, Stephen is mad that Everyday Edgar is not super chatting more.
	I think that's what, I think that's Stephen Krug's objection.
	Was there, I think there was another one, Chris?
	Should prostitution be?
	I think we, Will Smith, sorry about what happened with you and Jada.
	But so what was the question?
	Should prostitution be illegal in the US?
	Or we were going to talk about it.
	Yeah, we did.
	Yeah, if you want to just scroll back, we talked about it, but I think overwhelmingly the panel said that, yes, it should be legalized.
	And yeah, so thank you, Will Smith, for the $1.99 super chat.
	Oh, Chris.
	Okay.
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	And yeah, we can switch on back to regular mode here.
	So going back to OnlyFans.
	So how much money are you making from OnlyFans?
	Also, really like stuff like that just depends monthly.
	But for OnlyFans, it's hard because I try to make them pay me like through Cash App and stuff instead so that I don't have to split it with OnlyFans.
	That must be against the terms of service.
	It totally is.
	She didn't say it.
	It totally is.
	She didn't say it.
	I mean, whatever.
	Whatever.
	But yeah, I mean, I know some like sex workers that literally keep like monthly charts of how much they make.
	They document all of it.
	I don't.
	I just have my money and I just hope that it keeps on coming.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	can we highlight this will smith comment chris oh it was a gi jane joke will Will Smith.
	You know, you've fallen from the men in black days.
	Okay, next question for the panel.
	Do you like bad boys?
	And Hensley, we'll start with you.
	I do.
	If they have a sound cloud and no bed frame, I'm right there for them.
	Sounds fun.
	It's a little too arbitrary for me.
	What do you mean, bad?
	Yeah, I guess that could be kind of interpreted.
	I mean, whatever your general sense of what a bad boy is.
	Well, I do love a mystery.
	So if he's mysterious, I don't want him to be like mean to people.
	But if he's bad because he like pushes the limits with, I don't know, things that don't hurt people.
	Okay.
	Like comedy.
	Okay.
	So he's got a leather jacket and a motorcycle.
	Does that qualify him as a bad boy?
	I don't think so.
	I mean, I ride horses, so they like move around and think for themselves.
	I don't really think that leather jackets are scary.
	But yeah, I could go for the bad guy, I guess.
	I just want somebody to be confident and step out of the lines if that's okay for comedy or a fun thing to do.
	Like cool dates are usually a little bit bad.
	But other than that, I don't want him to be like going to jail.
	Sounds like a problem.
	Yeah, I kind of like the vibe where he's kind of mean to everyone.
	Not mean, mean, but like mean to everyone else but me.
	Like he has a soft speaker.
	So yeah.
	Okay.
	I like bad boys.
	They're confident, straightforward.
	And well, like, I don't know.
	That's just like straightforward and I like about them.
	And I also like nice guys too.
	But I prefer bad boys over nice guys.
	So yeah.
	I like a nerdy man.
	I do like nerdy weirdos.
	I don't really want a bad boy who's like popular.
	And yeah.
	Do you want a nice guy?
	Yes.
	Or nerdy.
	Not too nice, but nerdy.
	Okay.
	You don't want a guy who's whipped.
	No.
	Okay.
	A little bit, but not whipped.
	Oh, a little whipped.
	Okay.
	I've dated a bad guy that actually was a murderer and I didn't know.
	I know.
	And like, I wish I was making this up.
	I didn't know until I already thought I was in love with him.
	And then he told me.
	And I just couldn't do it anymore.
	It like changed my whole perception.
	But yeah, he was like motorcycle guy, tatted in a gang.
	And like all that was hot.
	Like that was all good.
	But not the murder part.
	That ruined it.
	So not that bad, you know.
	So you hold on.
	You dated a guy who murdered two people.
	Well, when you say that.
	But not while dating me.
	Like this happened in his past.
	So I didn't know about it.
	And then we had like a talk and like it came up.
	And then I had like a panic attack and broke it off.
	So hold on.
	Let's just clarify something.
	When you say murder, do you mean he killed people in self-defense or he murdered?
	No, it was like gang murders in LA with like a club in LA.
	You know, it's like gnarly shit that I was never like obviously into that.
	And so was he an ex-convict?
	Was he convicted of the murders or?
	I don't think he ever served time for it.
	No.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so did that make him more attractive to you?
	No, that made me be like, get the fuck out of my house.
	Oh, so but you like I liked the whole motorcycle bad boy thing until I found out he murdered people and then that was like too bad for me.
	Then I was like, no, no, no, we stop it there at the murder.
	Okay.
	So were you again, how long were you dating him or was it just we dated twice?
	Oh, you just went on two dates.
	No, Like we like dated like two separate full relationships.
	So kind of because I did take him back, but I broke up with him again.
	And he actually just got married to a really different girl from me, a little Christian girl in his hometown.
	Shout out.
	He just got married this week.
	And I saw it on Facebook.
	So I guess he's changed.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	And, but that wasn't a red flag.
	The whole murder thing.
	Well, that was the red flag.
	But yeah, but I did go back.
	Yeah, it didn't seem like it was enough.
	It was a red flag for like two years.
	And then I got a little bored and slid into his DMs again.
	Is this legit?
	No, like clearly, this is my any of my friends will vouch.
	I have more stories that I wish weren't true.
	But yeah, this actually happened.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	I do think, I mean, I guess sort of related to this, would you guys, would it be a deal breaker or red flag if you knew that the guy had a criminal history now?
	As a changed woman, I would say yes.
	I would not do a murderer again.
	Okay.
	Yes, agreed.
	Agree.
	By the way, is this beyond the statute of limitations with this guy?
	What do you mean?
	Well, I mean, so I think for murder, yeah, murder should have been.
	Are you sure you should be?
	I mean, I don't give a fuck.
	If he gets caught now, I don't give a fuck, but I wasn't like a part of any of that.
	We don't know who it is.
	This happened in the past.
	Don't say his name, though.
	I'm not saying his name.
	It's totally good.
	He's healed since then.
	Yeah, he's Christian now.
	He's good.
	He's with the Lord.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, did you finish your answer to that?
	Yes, I said I agree.
	Yeah, same the same.
	It's a deal breaker.
	I actually have talked to somebody who accidentally murdered somebody for speeding.
	And I had to.
	He's out of jail now.
	Really hope he's not watching.
	But yeah, I had to block him on everything.
	So I was like, nope, can't do it.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I wouldn't date a murderer, but like criminal record, it varies.
	So like, I would probably not be a deal breaker for me.
	But no murders.
	Yeah, I want to know what he's a criminal for.
	There's a lot of white collar criminals that it's not quite as scary.
	If it's something that they paid for and it was a mistake, you know, and they've repented.
	But definitely not violent crimes.
	Definitely down for a dude with the record.
	Absolutely.
	Do you want the guy that I dated?
	I wouldn't be against that.
	I really wouldn't.
	I mean, I have a record past.
	It's fine.
	It's whatever.
	So, and I mean, so you're down for a guy who has a criminal element.
	Yeah, as long as it's not domestic violence, I feel like that's pretty straight up one where you're going to be like, I know where this is leading.
	But some people are into that.
	It could have been situational.
	I don't know.
	And have you dated the guy who's a murderer?
	Not yet.
	Okay.
	What about how do you know?
	They maybe tell.
	I feel like a lot of people.
	You don't know until they tell you.
	Yeah.
	Or you get murdered.
	Okay.
	It's a fun little flip of the coin.
	Although, I suppose you can sort of tell if somebody's capable.
	I think you're like a Ted Bundy.
	I mean, I've never been best friends with somebody I thought was capable of killing somebody else and isn't dating, sort of like being best friends.
	Yeah.
	Rachel, I know that we had spoken previously, and let me know if you don't want me to, we don't have to, you don't want to talk about that?
	I know there was a situation in the past.
	You don't want to go there?
	Because that could be an interesting story to relate, but you would have to talk with me in private because I'm not interested in sharing.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	So let's see.
	Related to the whole bad boy thing, I guess why do you think it is?
	It does seem to be a sort of trope of that women find bad boys attractive, jerks, assholes, whatever.
	Why do you think that is?
	Start with Hensley.
	I mean, if you want to get Freudian, there's probably a lot to do with the parents.
	But I think at the end of the day, it's something to chase and it's something that we know isn't going to turn into like a marriage or, you know, that kind of stability.
	Like chasing a bad boy is kind of just an endless endeavor of, you know, ups and downs.
	And the ups are really fun and the downs are really shitty.
	But like when you have just a nice guy, that's just steady.
	And it's boring.
	And, you know, it's normally it takes us to a certain age or a certain mental state where we want boring.
	But, you know, I think most of us are in our 20s and that's not what we're looking for.
	want to have a lot of fun and get with the motorcycle dude who's murdered people sometimes you know um if boring means that they're reliable and don't stress me out all the time then um yeah i'm over the bad boy or whatever um
	I mean, like, since I'm in a relationship, I really like study and like trusting, but you know, it's not always like boring because otherwise I would break up with him.
	It's really fun and like, it's so nice to be with someone you can always trust.
	But definitely having like bad boy vibes is daddy issues for sure.
	Yeah.
	I think like with a bad boy is just like, it's our roll coaster.
	It's like up and down and it's never stable.
	So I rather prefer have like serious relationship with someone that's stable and I can communicate and trust.
	And also, I don't know, like with like boring, like, I mean, it's nice to have something stable, right?
	Well, like, I don't know.
	I just rather go as a nice guy than bad boy.
	I'm so sorry.
	What was the question?
	Well, yeah, what was the question?
	Can anybody help me?
	Like, I'll love you.
	Why do girls go for bad boys?
	Yeah, why do you think?
	I actually don't know because I don't necessarily, but I don't, maybe for that chase or that feeling of like, if he's mean to other people, but nice to you, I get it.
	You feel special.
	So maybe something like that.
	Yeah, I feel like it just feels naughty and rebellious.
	It's kind of just like a cliche, you know, like the girl next door and then the bad guy.
	Okay.
	All right, have any of you.
	I guess i'll add my two cents.
	So I think part of it is an excitement thing, and typically guys who are like more bad boys jerks assholes whatever um, it can sort of be viewed in a frame of confidence, whereas, like I think, a lot of women don't want that guy who's kind of too nice, you know, like it's a bit of a almost a needy thing, and they I think And I, you could disagree with me.
	I do think generally women really want a guy who's confident.
	And they not all women, but I think a lot of women want a guy who will be assertive, who's maybe dominant, who takes charge, who can lead.
	And if it's, if you're always like, you know, if the guy is always deferring to you on stuff, you kind of like, what's this guy going to do in a fucking zombie apocalypse?
	Like, what the fuck?
	So I think there's like, I also think there's a, they've done studies on this where they found that women do seem to find men, generally speaking, who display dark triad personality traits.
	I think that's Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy.
	There is like, it is attractive.
	Not all, I'm not saying everyone, but they've done, they've done studies on it.
	So I think related to that, relating to the criminal element aspect of it, there is the ability to the ability to be violent.
	So in like, if he needed to protect you in some way.
	Whereas if a guy's kind of limpy or too nice, you're going to be like, this guy's not going to be able to protect me.
	And like, you know, some shit goes down.
	So that could be part of it.
	Let's see.
	Different topic.
	Moving on.
	Actually, Chris, let's pull up the super chats.
	Sorry, guys.
	This is our first live stream.
	I'm getting used to it.
	So, Chrissy, I think you said I missed one about, I missed a couple, right?
	Just we'll look at all of them.
	Whoa, dude, where's the beard?
	I know I was growing it for nine months.
	I got rid of it.
	I kind of regret it, but yeah, I just need to change.
	But I'm going to grow it back out.
	So it's coming back.
	Will Smith.
	I think we got that one.
	Lucas Schlater, 499.
	Super Chat or 499 Euro.
	Thank you, man.
	Super Chat is not letting me use some words and that is bad.
	The colorful hair lady is sexy.
	I think you're talking about Jane.
	He thinks.
	So she's got her Instagram is in the description.
	If you want to send her a dick pic.
	Next super chat.
	Don't do that.
	I'm joking.
	Will Smith, $199.
	What are your deal breakers in a relationship?
	Do we, Will Smith, I feel like we kind of talked about it?
	Well, I think the question was, what are some difficulties that you've we'll do that one?
	Why not?
	Will Smith, he's been very generous.
	We'll start with you, Jane.
	What are your deal breakers?
	I think a deal breaker would just be someone that's not adventurous.
	Yeah, I feel like one of my love languages is quality time.
	So like I want to go out and do stuff.
	I don't want to just be like on the couch hanging out all day.
	So I'd want someone to go adventure and be like my adventure buddy.
	I would say mommy and daddy issues.
	It's a pretty big deal breaker for me because then they don't treat you well.
	So I'm not for it.
	The one that has like a lot of like traumas he doesn't want to go through and the one I can't trust and communicate and also boring, so it's a deal breaking for me.
	I don't think I have a lot of deal breakers, but definitely like hygiene is like a deal breaker for me.
	Good ones yeah, I think um, just speaking to the microphone, bad communication is a deal breaker if I just don't feel like I can trust them to communicate in a way that doesn't make us fight all the time or not communicate.
	Um, that's a problem.
	Um, one for me, I guess, is like codependency, like if they're very codependent on me, that's immediately something that i'm just like I get it.
	I'm not a big fan of someone else being reliant on me, and especially in a relationship.
	Um, I think that's probably a lot of the reasons I go for the bad boys with all the traits of sociopathic seed and stuff like that, where they're like yeah, i'm good on my own, i'm like, all right cool, me too, we'll work great.
	Hennessy Hennessy, do you prefer Hennessy or Hensley, whatever you can remember okay, I always yeah.
	Um, you've got some really based answers.
	I like the answers you've you've brought so far.
	Um so, somewhat related to the whole jerk uh, bad boy thing um, would you guys say that you have different set of rules for depending on who the guy is so like?
	Let me frame it this way, um, have you ever had a thought about a guy like I really like this guy, so i'm gonna make him wait to have sex?
	Like I really, I really like him, so i'll wait.
	I want to make him wait.
	Um, I just recently started doing this because for a long time I didn't realize you could do that and my way of forming connection was like, okay well, I know you want sex, so let's just get that out of the way.
	And more recently I started trying to hold off and be like, hey, I actually don't want this to be the main priority, or give myself to you like that, because a lot of times I wouldn't come.
	It would all be for the guy, it'd be so I could be this hot person to him, so I could have good reviews.
	And then I did a little switch where I, like you know, wasn't just sleeping with guys because I wanted them to like me and it's turned out with two very different scenarios.
	The first scenario, the guy totally talked shit on me.
	He was like good luck her.
	She's weird, you know.
	And I was like I had.
	We had a really good time, like I know you nutted in your pants when we made out, but like I didn't think you're gonna hold that against me.
	And then the other guy totally respected my boundaries and I ended up really liking him because sex wasn't the main priority.
	But then he ended up falling in love and it wasn't just because of sex, and then it's a whole other thing, but it was really.
	It was nice to see someone could like me and it meant so much more because they liked me and it wasn't based off sex.
	What was the situation?
	There was?
	There was a guy and he was telling another guy or um, so what?
	One of the guys like we had gone on a few dates and like they were fine dates.
	It's just we didn't seem very interested and I took no like offense to it.
	I was like yeah okay, we're just gonna kind of like go our separate ways.
	And then one of his friends like uh, the second guy that I actually ended up getting with was talking to him because they were friends and he was like hey, I think I really like this girl.
	Are you still talking to her?
	I just don't want to step on any toes and he, without warrant, just goes off on this rant about how like, i'm just so weird and like all this and like even the guy like I was seeing after I ended up seeing after him was like that was really weird of you to just bring up and especially since, like y'all are considered friends, like it like kind of hurt my feelings to hear that.
	But at the same time i'm like I don't really want to surround myself with ingenuine people.
	So it was just people showing themselves, so I was cool with it, but it was definitely something that I was like, oh man like, especially because he was the first one I was trying to test out the no sex thing on.
	I was like man guys, really like that is such an important aspect to him.
	So it was really nice it was followed up by someone who truly fell in love with me and sex had nothing to do with it.
	Why did he think you were weird?
	Did because I I wouldn't honestly like we like went on like three dates and like the vibe was fine.
	It was clearly like no spark, no connection, but it was nothing like bad or anything like that.
	It was just, you know you're, it was like three first dates, so like it didn't get less awkward, kind of, but there was nothing like weird.
	We still had fine conversation, you know, and like we continued to be friends and like everything was chill.
	And then I started seeing the next guy and I kept telling the next guy, you know oh, i'm friends with him or i'm friend, you know, like we talk every once in a while and finally he was like I just, I like I don't want to shit on him or anything, but like he said some really mean stuff about you are you sure y'all are friends?
	And I was like well, I thought we were like I don't know it was a weird scenario, but it sex played a part in it, because I didn't immediately sleep with him.
	Got it, Rachel?
	Can we go back to the question?
	Sorry, those are long answers.
	Yeah yeah so, uh.
	The question is, you know, have you ever had the thought about a guy, or you encountered a guy?
	You're like I really like this guy.
	So because I really like him, I you maybe actually hold off on having sex, whereas in other scenarios you might just have sex sooner.
	Um, I guess i've always taken practice in pushing them away first.
	It's part of how it goes.
	Um, I don't know, I suppose even at a young age I got used to saying no for at least a while.
	Um, to find the while um like I know him.
	This wraps into an old question of ours, like you know how.
	When is comfortable?
	Well, comfortable for me is when I feel like I know I don't know their family a little bit, or just not close, but I know how many brothers and sisters they have, or something about them uh, makes me feel like I can trust them.
	So i'm just living that road.
	I also grew up in Vermont and in the woods.
	So um, give me a break you guys.
	I'm not like 20, 20 material all the time.
	Okay, One question.
	So, have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Like, first time meeting a guy with a stranger?
	What's that?
	With a stranger?
	Like, that's what a one-night stand is.
	Yeah, like the first time you, whether it was a, you know, there was a date or you met at a bar or club or anything.
	Have you ever hooked up with the guy the same night that you met him?
	No, it just so happens that I've lived kind of a sheltered, quiet life.
	And so I liked the guys that I slept with first and knew them pretty well.
	And since I've moved out of my hometown, I still just don't feel like doing that with a stranger.
	So it just so happens.
	I'm not against it.
	Like there's definitely imaginary scenarios in my mind where that could happen.
	But the clouds haven't parted, I guess, for somebody to scoop me up like that.
	Okay.
	Make me feel safe in one night.
	Got it.
	I guess it depends on every girl's answer.
	I mean, everyone's going to have a different answer, but I would personally wait for a minute, like a long minute.
	Okay.
	So I give it a little bit.
	Yeah.
	I feel like the question's a bit, it's a bit of a difficult question to answer.
	Maybe I'm just going to reframe it here.
	So how long do you typically wait before having sex with a new person?
	Very long.
	Like very long, like months.
	Months, really.
	Oh, wow.
	Damn.
	So your current boyfriend was just tortured for months upon months.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it.
	But have you ever broken that?
	You know, has there ever been there was that one night foam cannon party, Cancun?
	Nope.
	Shout out, Rolo Tomasi.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So me personally, I would wait for a guy and would get him know before giving on myself.
	And usually, I mean, it depends, maybe five days or months, because I want to know how this person feels about me and also get emotionally attached to him and know what his intentions are too.
	So basically, yeah, I would wait.
	If I really like him, I see him like as a boyfriend, I would wait.
	Or even I don't say, I would still wait.
	Okay.
	So five, you said five dates or a couple.
	Yeah, or one month would be fine.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I learned it.
	Wow.
	So, yeah.
	So what, let me ask you this: what is the shortest amount of time?
	I think like have you had a one-night stand?
	I have.
	Yeah.
	So one or two dates.
	It's just like one or two dates.
	What's the longest that you've made a guy wait?
	I guess like a couple, like five or six dates.
	Okay, that's reasonable.
	Yeah, that's reasonable.
	But I learned that you have to like wait and like, you know, know this guy before you all yourself.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Um, I also wait a while before doing anything.
	I don't think there's a specific time frame.
	It's more about how comfortable I am with that person.
	And that's definitely changed.
	That's not how I always have been, but that's how I am now.
	And I'm just trying to find somebody that I actually can connect with and spend a lot of time with.
	So I'm down to wait.
	And if they're not down to wait, then they're not the right person.
	So it's whenever I'm comfortable, trust them.
	Trust they trust me.
	It goes both ways.
	So shortest you've ever waited?
	Shortest amount of time?
	I mean, it's in the past, it's been a shorter time, but okay.
	No judgment.
	Judgment for your zone.
	Okay.
	What's the longest?
	Like, yeah, months.
	Months.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah, I don't usually wait.
	To me, like sex and that compatibility is really important to a relationship.
	So if I'm having a good time with them, like maybe we'll go out to lunch and then just have sex after at one of our places.
	It doesn't, to me, like it doesn't have to be anything serious.
	It could just be for fun.
	And I think sex is just another way to vibe check the person, just like getting to know their personality.
	So yeah, I usually don't wait because I'll only go out with guys I'm attracted to anyway.
	But yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Chris, any super chats?
	Okay.
	$5 from I don't, sorry, I don't know how to say your name.
	The blue-haired lady is also sexy.
	It seems like the chat is liking Jane.
	No, it's Andrea.
	Oh, yeah, that's a girl.
	I'm the orange-haired bitch.
	Yeah, I mean, there's a bit of blue in there.
	There's some blue.
	I think we should give that one to Andrea.
	Okay, yeah.
	Sorry.
	I forgot she's here.
	She's very quiet.
	She's very shy.
	So yeah.
	We'll get her a microphone soon, though.
	But next one.
	Bill Gates.
	I'm a bad boy.
	I stole from Steve Jobs.
	Here, let's ask you guys a question.
	Would you guys date Bill Gates?
	Very rich man.
	One of the richest men in the world.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Seems like a resounding.
	He's very wealthy.
	He's wealthy, charitable, gonna die soon.
	So it's all perfect.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	He's not that bad looking.
	He's kind of cute.
	He's, you know.
	Rachel, you going for Bill Gates?
	I've had multiple offers.
	From Bill Gates, huh?
	From Bill Gates?
	Multi-millionaires, almost billionaires.
	It's not an interest to me.
	I want to love someone.
	So Bill Gates says, listen, I'm taking you to Seattle.
	I've got a yacht.
	I could.
	I don't know if Seattle's not like the most slanky fucking place ever.
	I will pay for everything.
	You don't have to work another day in your life.
	No go.
	Just to go to Seattle.
	Well, I mean, you know, it's a nice city.
	It's depressing, you know.
	But you're in a mansion.
	So, iconic.
	There's no get up on top of you and do style.
	No.
	No, he wants partner.
	Partner.
	No, I don't need his company.
	Okay.
	Hensley.
	Yeah, Bill Gates is cool.
	I'd prefer Elon, but Bill Gates brands.
	Okay.
	Prefer Elon.
	Okay.
	They were recently in a bit of a Twitter battle.
	Were they?
	Bill Gates and Ellen.
	Yeah.
	So apparently Bill Gates shorted Tesla stock.
	Anyways, they got into a big fight and Ellen kind of dunked on Bill.
	Ellen?
	I don't know how to pronounce his name.
	Listen.
	Listen, I just want to say, and maybe you guys have heard occasionally I stutter.
	I'm an ESL student.
	English is my second language.
	So that's my cop out for my poor pronunciation of his name.
	What's your first language?
	French.
	I was born in France and then I moved to the US when I was five.
	Yeah.
	So I'm my French is terrible, but I just, that's my cop out for my stuttering.
	I guess I just want to coach you.
	Beautiful.
	That was great.
	Just like the French say it.
	All right.
	Any more super chats, Chris?
	Okay, Walker11.
	Thank you for the, is that pound?
	That's pounds, right?
	Yeah.
	179 pounds.
	Is it true 80%?
	I'm going to pass on that one.
	Is it true?
	Is it pound?
	Is it true 80% of men are unattractive to women?
	That's actually a good question.
	I suppose we can ask the panel.
	Let me think about how I would frame this question.
	Throughout your day-to-day, just like walking around, of the men that you see, like what percentage of them would you say like you find them attractive?
	Or let's we could also do that with dating apps too.
	So this is a bit of a tough question, but of the men you see like day to day, like how many of them would you want to hook up with or would you find attractive?
	Probably closer to like 5%.
	5% of men that you see day to day.
	Okay.
	Rachel?
	Yeah, I'd say I don't find an attractive guy daily in Santa Barbara.
	I don't know what's going on.
	It is a bubble.
	It's hard to meet people.
	We were talking about this earlier.
	There's like an age gap that's not around here.
	And it's like after they graduate college, they go away because they can't save money here.
	It's too expensive to live.
	And then they come back when they have money and wives.
	Yeah.
	That's true.
	Yeah, I'd probably say like 3%.
	I find it 3% of men.
	Okay, got it.
	I think 10%.
	10% of men.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd say 10%.
	So 10% of men that you see day to day, just you don't think they're attractive.
	In Santa Barbara, like 3%.
	There's some babes, like some hot dudes.
	Oh.
	In Santa Barbara.
	Girls are hot.
	It's great.
	But the men, not too much.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think UCSB is always like voted hottest student body or whatever.
	But yeah, I'd say like 5, 10%.
	And I think like style matters a lot.
	And in Santa Barbara, people just don't tend to like try hard with what they're wearing.
	It's kind of like board shorts and flip-flops, even at the strip club.
	So it's kind of hard to gauge.
	God damn.
	With socks.
	Okay, with socks.
	God damn.
	Well, that's, it seemed like everyone was about like under 10%.
	It sounded like that's rough.
	That's rough, guys.
	That is the dating market for men in 2022.
	Yeah, I guess I'll sort of ask a follow-up question.
	Agree or disagree, would you say that most women could sleep with most men, but most men could not sleep with most women?
	Wait, did I say that right?
	Most women could sleep with most men, but most men could not sleep with most women.
	Agree or disagree?
	We'll start with you.
	I think most guys, guys just aren't as picky, it seems like.
	Like most guys would find a girl to fuck if they're horny enough.
	And I feel like women just tend to have higher standards.
	So I feel like most women would not find as many guys attractive.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think that's true.
	And like I already mentioned, girls are more pickier than men.
	So yeah.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah, it's definitely harder for men.
	Everybody seems to agree with that.
	Men are easy, but you also skipped one.
	Oh, who did we skip?
	Yeah, I agree.
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	Men are easy.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Yeah, it's, I think it's definitely tough out there.
	And, you know, guys, I think there's a lot of guys struggling with dating.
	And I, you know, I think that's why there's a proliferation of pornography, OnlyFans.
	No offense.
	I, you know, but I do think if guys were having an easier go at it, there we wouldn't see as much stuff going on with OnlyFans.
	I mean, you guys have clientele that are coming into the strip club.
	And I, you have to wonder, like, I'm not critic, I'm certainly not criticizing what you guys do, but you have to wonder, would there still be a market for that if it was easier for guys to get a laid?
	Like, I guess the clientele, and you don't have to, you know, dox anybody, but the clientele that you guys have at the club, would you say that these are guys that are like getting women or are they more like lonely dudes?
	Yeah, mostly lonely, but a lot of married guys, like they'll keep their rings on, come to the club.
	So yeah, tell you all the issues with their wife.
	Yeah.
	It's always fun when they're like, oh, I have a daughter your age.
	It's like, don't tell me that.
	Like, please don't tell me that.
	We don't want to know.
	And are a lot of the men, like, are some of them almost confiding in you?
	Or do you have regulars?
	Let me ask that first.
	Yeah.
	Hensley, no regulars for you.
	How often do you work?
	I work one day a week.
	Oh, just one day a week.
	Why not more?
	I don't have to.
	Okay, interesting.
	And Jane, how do you work usually like three nights?
	Sometimes I like, I tried doing six nights a week once and it like, I literally couldn't do it.
	Like the ick got too bad.
	Should we shout out the night that you're usually in there?
	Do you want people to come in and come through on Thursdays?
	What time?
	I'm the early shift.
	So I do the seven o'clock to midnight.
	This is the Spearman Rhino in Santa Barbara.
	Guys, I think anyone's in the chat, if there's anyone watching from Santa Barbara, Goleta, Isla Vista area, just let us know.
	But yeah, Hensley works.
	Thursdays.
	Thursdays.
	Okay.
	Is there like a coupon code if they say whatever they get?
	No, but if you get there before nine, the entrance fee is only $7.
	And after nine, it goes to $27.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So, oh, yeah.
	So are any of the guys coming to you guys just they don't even want to dance, but they want to just talk to you.
	Yeah.
	Do you get guys like that?
	Oh, yeah.
	And what are they typically talking to you about?
	All about themselves.
	Like they'll just talk about their struggles, like their dream girl.
	It's kind of just fun to play into it.
	Play therapist for a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	Agree.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And have you ever dated a customer?
	Jane.
	I have.
	Jane.
	And you know him.
	Yeah.
	I've dated a customer, which is like not allowed.
	And then we have a rule of like no boyfriends or like, you know, anyone like that coming into the club.
	And once I broke up with him, he still came.
	And I had to get him like kicked out of the club and everything.
	And it was really dramatic.
	So yeah.
	Hensley?
	I know.
	It always goes bad.
	It always goes bad.
	But I mean, wouldn't you also just say like, are you turned off by the men that come and see you?
	Because like they're kind of, what's the term tricking?
	Is that as white?
	As wide as that can sound?
	It's not that I'm turned off that they come to the club or anything.
	It's the men coming to a strip club are normally not men within your age range or older, right?
	Yeah, like or even just like on your level or on your base, really.
	So, yeah, there's not a lot of guys that come in that I'd want to date, but I'm also very anti-relationship in general.
	So, it's like I'm not at work looking for a relationship, even if they are attractive.
	Have you ever hooked up then with any customers?
	Okay.
	No, anytime they ask for like my number or something, I'll be like, you get one number per dance, and then you give them a wrong number.
	Okay.
	I probably shouldn't be saying this since we just said what days I'm working.
	Does it does it go down in the champagne room?
	We don't have a champagne room.
	There's no champagne room.
	Okay.
	There is a private room, though.
	We have a VIP and it's just a longer dance.
	You do the same stuff you would.
	You just get naked and dance, but it's not that private.
	Okay.
	It's like a curtain.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You don't do that.
	Has anybody like, have you heard stories?
	Maybe not you guys, but some of the other guys.
	The guys will always try to like do more.
	But I feel like all of us are really empowered, strong women.
	And we have like the managers right there on our side, the door guy.
	Like I actually feel really safe when I'm at the club.
	So yeah, the guys will always try stuff, but we're not going to let them do it.
	Okay.
	Is there any sex going on at the Spearman?
	No.
	Okay.
	Just curious.
	Yeah.
	Just curious.
	Okay.
	Very interesting.
	Very interesting.
	Chris, super chats, right?
	Let's just finish up what we started.
	Lazar is broke.
	Tell him to get who is Lazar.
	Was he another chatter?
	Yeah, don't worry.
	Oh, man.
	There's some fighting in the chat.
	Come on, guys.
	We're a family here.
	Bill Gates, thanks.
	Call me.
	That was when we were, I think, talking about the Bill Gates thing.
	Nichwitch, thank you for $5.
	Seven sure SM7Bs in the Stream Deck XL.
	This is a high-quality production.
	Welcome back, by the way.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, we've been working on this for Chris, right?
	Six months.
	And I've been, you know, I was planning even before that for three months.
	So there was a lot of work that went into getting the studio set up and maybe went a little overboard, but we wanted to, you know, produce a decently high quality show.
	So really appreciate the support.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Bill Gates again with a 199.
	Bill Gates, first off, let me just criticize you a little bit here, Bill Gates, Mr. Gates, Mr. Billionaire with your 199 super chats.
	Come on.
	Come on, Bill Gates.
	Let's, I think also just we are getting a lot of lower super chats.
	Chris, I think from here on out, let's do 10 and up for if we're going to, we'll display all super chats, but for reading them, we'll just do 10 and up.
	So Bill Gates, sell some of your Microsoft shares.
	Would you avoid a guy if you used an Android phone?
	So basically like their text messages come through green.
	I would definitely would.
	It's a red flock to me.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't.
	Like we decided to.
	Wait, it's a hold on.
	Wait, wait.
	We'll come back.
	It's a red flag if a text message comes through green.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So if he has an Android phone.
	Yes, because I think iPhone's the best, but better quality camera and a lot of options.
	So in Amon Apple site.
	Okay.
	I would not think it's weird.
	Okay.
	I kind of would like it.
	Yeah.
	I feel like the only inconvenience is not getting the airdrop.
	That's like the only annoying thing.
	Yeah.
	And like FaceTime would be annoying because you can't do that, but it's fine.
	Yeah.
	It is a bit off-putting when it comes to green.
	I will admit it, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but it's a little like what's going on.
	Well, we said yes to flip phone, so Android is up there, you know?
	Yeah, Rachel, I think you come through green.
	Do I?
	Do you have an Android?
	Do you have an Android?
	I don't know.
	No, no, I have an iPhone and it's not a deal breaker for me.
	And I definitely think that if somebody had an Android, it would be a source of us joking.
	I'd probably make fun of them a lot until they switched.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I gotta agree with you.
	It's not a deal breaker, but it will be brutally harassed.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Next super chat.
	Radioactive Panda.
	$2.
	Thank you.
	What is your dream job profession if not stripping?
	So for the two strippers here.
	I want to have my own show on like Vice Land or something.
	And I also want to open my own dispensary.
	Yeah.
	I probably want to start a rehab or a sober living.
	And if not that, a tattoo parlor or a combined of the two.
	Send the sober people to my dispensary.
	All the people that relax.
	I'm like, I got a great place.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we didn't.
	I don't think we mentioned that.
	Hensley does tattoo.
	Do you charge people or is it just friends that you tattoo?
	It's a very low price.
	I only charge for materials because when I get practicing, so I'm like a scratcher tattoo artist, but I'm not bad.
	Do you tattoo yourself?
	No, I'm picky about my tattoos.
	But you do have tattoos.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Next one, Chris.
	Marcel Pete, $20 super chat.
	Thank you for the $20 super chat, Marcel.
	Much appreciated.
	By the way, I like your shirt in the thumbnail.
	I don't know if that's you, Marcel, but I'm in a wheelchair.
	I'm pretty attractive.
	Never had problems with getting a girl in the past.
	So what is it the wheelchair or the sex?
	And is it shallow?
	What is it a woman?
	Wait.
	Marcel, I'm going to have to apologize.
	I don't understand your question exactly.
	I'm in a wheelchair.
	I'm pretty attractive.
	Never had in the past.
	Is it, are you saying that before you were in the wheelchair, you never had problems, but now that you're in the wheelchair, you're having problems?
	Also, I suppose you could be in a wheelchair and still be functioning sexually, but, or you could be paralyzed and have no function.
	So yeah, yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, so I actually dated a quadriplegic for like eight months.
	So that means he basically got in a car crash and like lost mobility of his legs, but also mostly like of his arms too.
	So he was like, you know, like pretty paralyzed, bound to his wheelchair.
	And yeah, that just like wasn't a deal breaker for me at all.
	Like we still had fun sex.
	And yeah, I mean, like, it did make stuff like, I guess, like different or like to some people hard.
	Like I had to drive.
	I like crashed his car once because it was like this big car, like there was a minivan to have his wheelchair go in and I didn't want to drive it and I had to.
	So yeah, like I feel like it makes things harder in that sense.
	But I mean, he was a really cool guy and the wheelchair never seemed to like, like I would have liked him either way, you know?
	So I feel like you have hope.
	Okay.
	Does anybody else want to, it's not immediately clear what that question is.
	Marcel, if you want to post a just a regular, if you want, a regular comment, maybe just clarifying your question a bit.
	And we'll try to keep an eye out in just the regular chat and just clarify your question a little bit.
	Was there another super chat, Chris, or is that?
	That's it.
	Blake E. What's Jane's OnlyFans?
	It's so we have her Instagram tagged in the description.
	Do you have like a link tree on your no, but it's I could just DM you or whatever, but it's sativa underscore blue.
	Sativa underscore blue.
	And there's one more super chat, right, Chris?
	Oh, big $50 donation, Nichwitch.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Really gotta drop the air horn for you.
	I'd like to, I'd like to apologize on behalf of Bill Gates.
	What a stingy billionaire.
	Here's some support.
	$44 for Brian and split the rest with your guests.
	Yeah, I'm gonna keep that shit.
	Fuck that.
	Sorry, guys.
	Microphones have to be paid for.
	But definitely check out their OnlyFans and whatnot.
	I'm stingy like Microsoft.
	And yeah, from now on, let's do 10 and over for the super chats.
	So let's do the next question.
	So everyone says I'm capping and like I'm really not.
	Well, was it like with the guy in the wheelchair?
	Was it a sugar daddy situation?
	No, he looked genuine.
	He did.
	Like, I don't want to say too much about him, like, but he like went to UCSB for grad school.
	And like, we met in Santa Barbara and literally like knew his mom, like dated for eight months.
	Yeah, I'm not capping, but okay.
	So I had a better version of this question, but and we're going to start over here with Hensley.
	Have you ever had a hoe phase?
	Yeah, they come yearly.
	I hate to be a bitch that's like, maybe it has something to do with the moon, but now that Snapchat does those flashbacks, I'm like, it's funny.
	Every time around May, I just, my body count goes up a lot more than the rest of the year.
	You know what's funny?
	So, okay, I don't know if you remember this, Hensley.
	We met, I think, exactly a year ago.
	I was out filming on 4th of July.
	It was Del Playa.
	It was on Del Playa.
	Oh, sorry, I should be there.
	Or Deltopia.
	Was it Deltopia or 4th of July?
	Because my friend was getting a public intoxication right next to me, and you're like, can we pull you for the interview?
	And I'm like, yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, so I remember meeting you.
	And I remember specifically, I don't know why I remember this, but I remember you specifically saying, maybe I'm mixing this up with somebody else, but you said that you were for the streets.
	Do you remember that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you're for the streets.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	But is it true that you're for the streets?
	Or were you just joking?
	No, it wasn't a cap.
	Like I said, it's the men come in waves.
	Like there will be like spots where it's just like, oh, no interest.
	And then you meet one that's nice.
	And then like for some reason, as soon as you start considering one, three other great options come along.
	And it's like, yeah, we'll just try out all the options.
	At least though, I mean, I have to give you props for the self-awareness, you know?
	So that's good.
	Rachel.
	I went to a pimps and hoes party once and I dressed as a pimp.
	So I guess I'm Adam.
	Okay.
	Elise?
	I mean, I plead the fifth.
	Again.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I kind of have this phase, but now I'm over.
	So no more.
	I would say not really.
	Every high schooler kisses people more than they probably do now.
	So that's like what I would say.
	I wouldn't really say it's a hoe phase, more just less than no, I think.
	Yeah, yeah, I feel like freshman year me at UCSB was like my biggest hoe phase.
	I don't think I'll ever beat that.
	Um, wait, your freshman year at UCSB?
	Yeah, and I graduated last year, so that was like what 2017, 2018.
	And I, that whole year was just like in the ho phase, like never slept in my dorm room one night basically.
	So it was fun, you know?
	What at UCSB is it quarter or is it quarter semester?
	It's quarter.
	Okay, so semester or quarter.
	How many bonnies did you put up your first quarter?
	My freshman hoo-ha.
	I don't know.
	I mean, like, once again, I actually back then I kept a good list.
	I feel like it was more of like getting with like the same group of guys multiple times, you know.
	But yeah, it was like that freedom, right?
	Like broke up with the call with the high school boyfriend, went to college, you know.
	So you were seeing a few guys concurrently.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I would like choose based on like, ooh, do they have a house on DP?
	Like then I'll get with them.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So how many would you say, how many men concurrently?
	What was the most at the same time?
	I mean, probably not more than like juggling like four or five guys at once because you have to like you have to keep up with them, you know?
	Damn.
	Okay, that's a rotation.
	Also, like, I don't know.
	Back then, I thought I was hot shit.
	And like, I really wasn't actually back then.
	So it's just, it's the confidence.
	I was really confident when I was like 18.
	God damn.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah.
	Good shit.
	Good times.
	So kind of going on to a totally different thing.
	This is more like more so with people that you've dated a bit, or it could actually be shorter term.
	But would you say more often than not that you're the one ending things, or is it men ending things with you, be it short term or long term?
	Hensley?
	Or no, sorry, Jane, we'll start here.
	I feel like I usually end things before I know my heart's going to get broken, which is like something I, you know, I want to work on.
	But like, I feel like if I find it getting like too serious, I'll just end it.
	I'll get cold feet.
	Yeah.
	So more often than not.
	Actually, my last one, he ended it with me.
	And like, I'm still sad.
	But if you could give it like maybe a percentage like of the times there's been a scenario, again, whether it's short term or long term, where there's like an ending.
	My last guy was like the first guy to end it.
	And I feel like my ego is still like crushed because I usually end it.
	You usually end it.
	So he beat you to the punch?
	He beat me.
	We were in an open relationship and he stuck with like the OG girl.
	She's cute.
	I'm not going to lie, but I was never allowed to meet her.
	So I didn't like it.
	Got it.
	I mean, I haven't been broken up with, but I've had really good reasons to have to break up with somebody, which is kind of worse in my case because I got cheated on like a really long relationship.
	So that hurts.
	So you have to break up with them.
	And yeah, I just ended when things get toxic or if they're controlling and it's just not good for my mental health.
	Yeah.
	So overwhelmingly, you say you're the one who ends things.
	Yeah, same here.
	I usually do one dance sync.
	So my ants is just, it's rare.
	It's usually me.
	Okay.
	I really never got in a relationship where someone had to break up or anything.
	Like it's never that deep.
	This is like my first relationship where it's actually like boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Okay.
	So, but has there ever been any short-term things where like there was some communication like, hey, it was nice meeting you, but I don't think it's going to work or I don't want to see you anymore.
	No, not really.
	It's usually just like over text and it's like, oh, we don't see each other.
	Or just a ghost.
	Okay.
	Rachel?
	Oh, I hate being a heartbreaker.
	I don't want to admit it.
	I've never been broken up with, but I'm single right now.
	So that tells you the answer.
	And how many people?
	Ballpark, how many people have you broken up with or ended things with?
	I think I've had maybe five or six actual boyfriends.
	Okay.
	So that's how many.
	But some of them just naturally ended.
	Just speaking to the microphone.
	Some of them just naturally ended.
	So sometimes it's amicable.
	Okay.
	It's not always too much of a heartbreak.
	Got it.
	I would say when it comes to relationships, because I'm not a big relationship person, if it's a relationship, I get broken up with.
	And then, but if it's like casual, I'm the one who ends things.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Yeah, I'll actually answer the question.
	I would say that, yes, for me, I've broken up or ended things with a couple girls, but probably the majority, I got dumped.
	I'm going to, hey, I'll take the L. I'll admit it.
	So I definitely do think there's an interesting difference there.
	And I do think they report that something like 80% of divorces are initiated by women, which is maybe, I don't know.
	Guys, don't get married.
	Okay.
	So let's see.
	That guy's right.
	We do need an energy drink.
	I know.
	I want some.
	I'm feeling if anyone wants to tip us so that we can buy some weed.
	Oh, boom.
	There you go.
	A little sesh after this.
	Yeah, a little sesh after this.
	Yeah.
	We could podcast that too.
	So here's a common trope I see in dating profiles, you know, dating apps.
	Just a show of hands again, who's currently on a dating app?
	Woo!
	Rachel?
	No?
	Okay, so here.
	What do girls mean when they write, take me on an adventure?
	What does that mean?
	Going outdoors, outdoors, or something.
	That's an adventure.
	Maybe go on a road trip.
	Do something fun and cute.
	Don't just sit on Netflix and chill.
	I'm the type of girl that would say that.
	And I feel like it's like hot springs hike or like, like, it has to be something that it's the highlight of their week.
	They're like, oh my God, like I worked all week and then this guy took me to do this fun thing.
	So not like dinner date or like movie.
	Like it has to be something bigger, like unique, like snorkeling.
	Okay, got it.
	Or like skydiving.
	Sky, hold on, skydiving.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Oh, heavy down.
	Here's a good question.
	What is the most overly elaborate or like extravagant first date, first time meeting up that a guy's ever done or taken you on?
	Sorry, guys.
	Technical issues.
	I'm pretty sure they heard the question, though.
	So, Hensley, I'll start with you.
	Could you repeat the question?
	Yeah, so what is the most overly elaborate or extravagant first date a guy has ever taken you on?
	And sort of a secondary question, have you ever been flown out?
	Could I get the cricket sound effect?
	Thank you.
	I haven't been on very elaborate first dates.
	Not that I can think of over the top of my head.
	That's like never flown anywhere.
	I hear about those dates and I'm like, where are you meeting them?
	That sounds so fun.
	Has a guy ever offered to fly you out anywhere?
	Maybe, but nothing that was taken seriously.
	Like, that's another thing is like, you get a lot of these grand gesture offers, but none of them are serious.
	It's just an attempt to get you talking to them because they think their personality is going to win you over.
	Got it.
	Normally doesn't if they start by lying about trips to places.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I've been asked to go on trips on flights with people and it's never been for first date, like first day.
	Right, never first date.
	Okay.
	And it never appealed because that sounds like kidnapping.
	Tilt the mic up a bit towards you.
	Yeah.
	Thanks, Hensley.
	Sorry, keep going.
	It sounds like kidnapping if it's a first date and you're going on a flight.
	Okay.
	So it's just too wild for me.
	But my first actual like adventure date that was really cool was learning to surf.
	Another really cool first date was getting taken up to the river in Big Sur.
	And the guy like, there's chairs up there.
	I don't know.
	There's like a couple hotels that do crazy things up there.
	One of them puts picnic chairs in the river.
	And then there's tables in between it.
	So you can like set up lunch and eat in the river.
	That was pretty cool, but they weren't like crazy adventures, just more than usual.
	Drop it.
	Yeah, I've never been on a crazy first date.
	It's always just pretty basic.
	Pretty basic.
	Parking lot.
	The guy's 99 Miata.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I've never been in the crazy days, just like they would take me on the dinner, like restaurants or a nice coffee or places, but unless I like skydiving or something else, like, you know, diving or yeah, it's always just been going to the bar, going to dinner, nothing too crazy.
	Okay.
	Hopefully that changes.
	But yeah.
	Yeah, nothing like crazy either.
	I mean, yeah, I feel like the outdoor adventure ones are fun, but speak a bit more into the microphone.
	The outdoor adventure ones are fun, but I mean, that's stuff that I would do like with or without a date.
	So.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	So no offers to be flown out anywhere.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Hmm.
	Oh, Chris, by the way, I don't know if any of you else on the panel here, it's pretty fucking hot in here.
	Yeah Chris, do you think you could try to finagle the air conditioning?
	If it's too loud, we'll turn it off, but it's super toasty in here and i'll continue on.
	Um, hold on.
	Sorry, let me take over here one sec.
	Um, and did you lower the temp?
	Yeah okay I, it might.
	By the way, we so everyone in the chat we just uh turned on the air conditioning.
	There's a bit of ambient noise.
	Can you let us know one in the chat if you heard that or if it's not affecting the volume at all?
	Okay um, let's do super chats really quick.
	I don't know if we have any um, any new ones.
	Uh, Noah Vega with the nine dollar or the ten dollar super chat.
	Thank you man, appreciate the support.
	Uh, Brian Brickson uh, what's your only fans?
	So if you actually go in the description um, I have my only fans linked there.
	It's um, me and Andrea.
	Here we uh, we put on a show.
	We put on a show and you know she's gonna appear a girl girl yeah, we're gonna collab, she's gonna, and it's gonna be a collab with our only fans.
	So uh yeah, check it out, it's in the description.
	Uh, by the way, all the girls are terrified of of this sex doll, by the way, we don't.
	She feels weird.
	Yeah, she's nice.
	Okay, she's shy okay uh, next one.
	Uh, Stephen Krug, ten dollar.
	Super chat.
	Thank you man, appreciate it.
	Women carry more risk in reproduction evolute evolutionarily, evolutionary speaking because of time investment, nine month pregnancy, etc.
	Father could leave without doing anything.
	I.e, women naturally are more selective because risk.
	I agree with that.
	I mean there's certainly yeah, there's certainly a biological element in our lizard brains where it's like hey, if I mean, you know, birth control came out in the 60s and now that's a bit less of a concern, but still in our lizard brand, we're like hey, we have the risk of a pregnancy here, so it makes sense, it makes sense, but I, I do got to say 10 guys, 10 of men you find attractive.
	Okay anyways, it was less less, less than 10 rates.
	They're very picky.
	Um so okay, is that it for the super chats?
	Chris uh, let's just uh, go to window mode.
	Let's uh just give a little shout to our twitch homies.
	Okay oh sweet uh, thank you, Ice MAN.
	102 to I. I'm dyslexic here, English as a second language.
	Guys, thank you for the uh tier one sub, much appreciated.
	And uh, thank you guys for the follow, much appreciated.
	Um oh, I can hold on, i'll just boom okay um oh wow, okay.
	So next question.
	Sorry, guys.
	First time we're figuring it out.
	We're doing it live.
	Do you guys think it's wrong for a guy to hook up with a girl and then ghost her?
	Start with Jane.
	I think ghosting, whether it's like the guy or the girl, I think it's just better to like be honest.
	If you're not feeling it, just let them know so that they can move on.
	Okay.
	I agree with that, but I have ghosted because it's sometimes awkward to be honest with people and let them down.
	But overall, ghosting is just worse than just being honest and having healthy communication.
	But yeah, I don't, I don't like it.
	Yeah, same as here.
	And I don't like when people ghost.
	Yeah, I agree with Maya.
	I've unfortunately done it too, but it's like, I shouldn't have and I should have been open.
	Yeah.
	I'm from such a small town that it's not possible to ghost each other.
	So now that I'm in the world, it's just so fucked up.
	It's not cool.
	I think like there could be a sentence or two of explanation.
	It doesn't even have to be nice, just, but I think from moving on, it can be a lot better.
	But I think we definitely have a bad tendency of being like, they should have got the vibe.
	Like girls are very dependent on our body language and our tone and our fluctuation of voice for how, and we expect guys to kind of perceive that as like, dude, we're not NDO.
	But guys are not the brightest.
	So I think for them, it can be easier if you just let them get the point by telling them, you know, I'm good.
	Thanks.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	So next question.
	Do you have different sets of rules for different guys based on their attractiveness or tolerate certain behaviors from men that you wouldn't otherwise based on their attractiveness?
	Hensley?
	I mean, I think just every relationship's different.
	It can't necessarily be by rules or numbers or statistics or anything.
	It's really how you feel them out.
	I think we all just have the one standard of like, don't hate us kind of thing, like don't assault us.
	And the other rule is I think it fluctuates for everyone.
	It's just subjective.
	Okay.
	Rachel.
	I agree.
	It's too subjective.
	Yeah, I'd probably say the same thing, but I would like to think I'd probably treat everyone like the same.
	Yeah, same here.
	I agree with her.
	I agree with Elise.
	Yeah, like I know how I want to be treated and how I deserve to be treated.
	So no matter how hot or not hot a guy is, like if he's not going to treat me like that, then I'm not going to be with him.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	So again, totally new topic.
	And I think we're going to probably wrap up here, guys, in about 15, 20 minutes.
	So if any of you have a question, just submit it, super chat, and we'll get to it before the end of the show.
	So who should I'm trying to think how I want to frame this question?
	So amongst your friend group, group of friends, do you guys share a lot with them about someone like guys you're dating?
	Do you guys get advice or do you just share a lot?
	Yeah, I mean, like, we share everything.
	Like before one of us goes on a date with a new guy, we'll share our location, you know, like just to make sure we're safe.
	We'll FaceTime about it afterwards.
	Yeah, I think it's like fun, you know, to like, it's like girl talk.
	It's like a sleepover.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I think it depends also with the relationship you have with that person.
	A lot of the times, I don't want to share what I wouldn't be comfortable with them sharing with their friends.
	So I do like have that line of what's okay, what's not.
	But with your like best best friend, yeah, everything.
	Yeah, same here.
	I, I mean, if I go on a date, I usually share a location with my friends and also tell them my experience.
	How was that?
	But also, I'm, I'm trying to like, you know, stay safe and, you know, anything could happen on the date.
	So.
	Yeah, I keep like only best friends, like really close people in my life.
	So I share everything about the date, like their name.
	Everything.
	What the friend's willing to hear.
	So yeah, true.
	I don't want to say too much.
	But I do tell my girlfriends a lot, especially the ones that are still back in Vermont and or staying in touch and whatever.
	What's the harm?
	I share with my friends either the really good experiences or the really bad experiences.
	Except for my best friend, Natalie.
	She gets all of it.
	And I'm sorry, Natalie.
	Okay.
	And so how quickly, and this could be an assumption, but how quickly after you've, the first time you've hooked up with a guy within 24 hours, do your girlfriends know the size of the man's penis?
	Yes or no?
	Does it curve?
	Does it curve in a certain direction?
	Like I said, if it's either really good or really bad.
	Okay.
	So they know then.
	If it's in one of the extremes, yeah, but if it's just an average.
	So if it's a large penis or a small penis, they will know.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Can I say?
	Right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think I would share with only my very close people, like close, spicy friends.
	Okay.
	If they ask for sure.
	So.
	Okay.
	I think probably if you asked, I don't see why I just say it.
	Unless it's like, as she said, really good, really bad.
	Sure.
	Probably say something, but yeah, more if you ask.
	Yeah, I guess like what Hensley said, like if it's crazy big or like really teeny, like I definitely talk about it.
	If not, if it's average.
	If it's average, it's average.
	Like you don't talk about average things, you know?
	Okay.
	Do you guys ever get nervous about what details a man that you're dating or even hooked up with might share with his friends?
	I mean, honestly, guys don't really talk to their guys about that.
	That's true.
	I'd ask if that's true.
	Like, do you say anything?
	Because like, honestly, I do, but he's like, I really don't say like they're pretty respectful.
	If they're in a relationship, like it's super respectful.
	But if it's non-relationship, I don't think they like overexplain because boys are just not like that.
	Yeah.
	It's respectful, but it's also like dangerous, right?
	Somebody could seal you away if they like talk too good about you, which is what I was going to say about the last question.
	Like I never talk about my boyfriends or somebody I'm with, especially if it's really good, because then it's just like a wet dream for whoever else.
	And that's not right.
	Where I forgot the questions.
	Yeah, so a question.
	Do you ever like, I guess, let me also kind of maybe reframe it.
	Would you be nervous about a guy or uncomfortable with a guy you're dating or hooked up with talking to his guy friends in the same way that you talk to your girlfriends in terms of disclosures?
	I think it depends on who because I've been with somebody who I'm really close with friendship wise and I'm friends with really close with his homies.
	So like in that case, yes, it's kind of weird for like your brothers to know.
	specific information about you.
	But other than that, I don't really care.
	As long as it's good.
	Got it.
	If it's not, then yes, I care.
	Yeah, I mean, especially as like someone who's open about sex work, I feel like often guys will brag to their guy friends after they get with like me or like one of my coworkers.
	And I, I don't know, I feel like that's kind of lame.
	Like if you're just like bragging about fucking a stripper, like, I don't know.
	Like that stuff's lame to me.
	But if they're going to just like talk about like what they did with me or whatever, I, I'm talking about it too.
	So like that's fine.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	So I'm going to, I'm going to give the, at least my take and I think the guys take.
	We don't say shit, really.
	I think if a guy, if a guy friend was, they don't even know who I'm seeing dating.
	They probably don't know their names.
	Let's say it's like super long term.
	They might not know.
	If a guy knows that I was on a date somehow, he might be like, how'd the date go?
	And I might just be like, oh, it's good.
	That's it.
	Or it wasn't, it was bad.
	Like, that's it.
	Even if we hook up, like, I'm, I'm not going to talk about her labia and shit.
	You know?
	I don't know.
	I, I think, I do think it's maybe, and it's sort of just taken for granted, I feel like, but to me, it seems a bit lack of discretion.
	Because like, damn, this girl, like, she knows, she knows all this shit.
	Like, her friends know.
	And I just, I'm like, uh, like, I'll know her in that way, but she knows.
	Anyways, whatever.
	So, but you guys, would you guys, I guess, follow-up question.
	Would you be upset if a guy was like, yeah, her pussy smelled bad or something like that?
	Well, going back to what you said, first of all, let me just say, like, if my boyfriend was like, don't talk about it, like, I wouldn't.
	Like, it's also about respect.
	And I'm sure we wouldn't say anything if the guy said, like, hey, like, I'm uncomfortable, like, with you sharing this.
	Like, I would never do that to someone.
	Yeah, same here.
	Okay.
	I feel like I wasn't sure at least someone, like, one of my best ask about it.
	And secondly, I feel like guys don't really overshare things.
	And if you were going to like share stuff like something like bad about me, yeah, I think I would be upset.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I think I'd just be embarrassed, honestly, if they said something.
	But like, I went on a date the other day and I was texting Elise the entire time just keeping her updated.
	So I can't really be hypocritical and say I care about them saying something, but I can say everything.
	Right.
	So, you know.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I think we're going to do maybe the last question here or actually before that, Chris, do we have any know what?
	We'll actually save these super chats for the, I think for the very, very end and then we'll wrap up.
	So who would you guys say when it comes to dating, who has the burden of initiative when it comes to dating?
	Men or women?
	When you say burden of initiative, like who has to ask out who?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I've definitely been confident enough where if I see someone, I'll walk straight up to them and start the conversation.
	I have no issue with that.
	But if it's also like a mutual situation, like I just got into one where we were both talking, it was very flirty and I was like, yeah, we should hang out.
	And we both followed each other on Instagram.
	I wasn't texting him first.
	Like I was like, no, I want you to text me first for sure.
	Yeah, let me actually just reframe the question.
	So do you prefer it when a guy takes initiative?
	And I think you kind of answered that.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	Rachel?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I also prefer, but I have no problem starting either.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I prefer when the guy texts first.
	Yeah, I like confidence.
	So yes.
	Yeah, I mean, like, you want to feel wanted, but also, like, it's kind of cool.
	I feel like as the girl, I feel like it stands out if you do text first or like make the date, just because I feel like that's like kind of non-conventional.
	So then guys will remember you more.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	Is there?
	Never mind.
	Sorry, guys.
	It's scorching in here.
	It's super hot.
	I think we're all, all of us are kind of low energy.
	So I think we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
	But before we do that, let's just go around the panel.
	Would any of you like to pose a question to the panel or to me?
	we'll start with hensley um do you guys worry about labia size Good question.
	Good question.
	So do guys worry about, I can't speak for other men and certainly, okay, so I'm I may very, I may very well be an outlier in this regard, but I'm going to just be honest.
	I actually kind of like a girl with a bit of labia, some big lips, you know what I'm saying?
	I'm a fan.
	I'm a fan.
	And I think, and actually I'm starting, I'm announcing this right now.
	Thank you, Hensley, for intro.
	And we just everyone know this was not pre-planned.
	I'm starting a nonprofit organization called the American Network Against Labia Plasty.
	Okay.
	Anal for short.
	And I think it's unfortunate.
	And I'm kind of joking around, but I do think women get shamed for if they have a large labia.
	And I think that's unfortunate because that's something you're born with.
	You can't change.
	In a similar vein, I don't think we should be shaming guys if they have a small peen, you know?
	You know, small peen solidarity.
	But I'm average, okay?
	I'll admit it, average.
	But so I would say I actually like, not to say that I wouldn't hook up with a girl if she had the normal, well, let's not say normal, but like smaller labia, I guess.
	But I'm a fan.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I'm a fan of the large labia.
	And I do think it's unfortunate that there's a lot of shaming language.
	Like, you know, there's beef curtains, meat flaps.
	So labia love.
	That's my message.
	But I think most guys are just most, there's definitely some guys out there that'll shame a girl for that.
	But I think most guys are just like, you know, happy to be being intimate with somebody, you know?
	So I also have a question.
	We'll come to you related to her thing or it's a different.
	Okay, we're just going to go around, but we'll get to you.
	Rachel.
	Does anyone think that there's long-term damage in the relationship if the relationship becomes open?
	And then maybe when you get older, you know, there's not as many options because this is really common.
	Moving from New England to Southern California, I come up against it a lot where open relationships are really casual and predominant, actually.
	And so I'm not really sure whether I'm old school in thinking that there could be potentially long-term damage that you could never really close it in the future when you're older.
	So are you saying that it can be cause like psychological harm to be in an open relationship?
	Or I'm just trying to.
	Any sort of damage that makes you not last the ages because you opened your relationship or do you think that it's totally closable again?
	And I don't know.
	What are people's thoughts on open relationships in the long term of like a whole lifespan?
	Okay.
	I'll let the rest of the panel answer and then I'll give them my answer.
	I think a lot of people who are like very pro-monogamy or like anti-open relationships, it's funny because then they'll cheat.
	You know what I mean?
	Like open relationships are there for a reason and they do have a lot of potential, but they're just as much work and just as hard, I think, as monogamy.
	Because there does have to be a lot of open communication.
	There are going to be feelings of jealousy, like no matter what.
	But they also, I think, are becoming really popular because they have a lot of potential in them.
	I'm pro-monogamy, but I'm also open to like open relationships.
	Like I'm not closed off to it.
	Like we're so young and like I know I don't want my boyfriend's probably not going to be interested like that in me like my whole life.
	Like we're going to be alive till we're like 50, 60, 70, whatever.
	So like I'm open to like trying something new always.
	Ah, so I have a question.
	So before we get to your question, so we were, we'll come back to it, but do you want, we'll do you want to answer hers or we can just skip you?
	No, no, she just came so.
	Okay, do you want to go ahead?
	I'm not against it, but I am, I am the jealous type.
	And I personally don't think I could do it.
	I think I would go a little crazy and just get a little jealous.
	So I, for myself, I wouldn't do it.
	I think that would harm me mentally.
	Yeah, I've been in different open relationships.
	I feel like the ones that worked for me were the ones that everyone was in the same relationship, like Polly Amory.
	And so like we all loved each other and that really worked for me.
	And it was really honest and open.
	The ones that for me personally like don't work is when someone has like a separate partner that like you get no contact with because to me like that doesn't feel as open.
	But yeah, I do think it has become a lot more popular.
	And I think it takes like double, triple, however many partners are involved, that much more work to make it successful.
	And you have to be like really secure and honest with yourself.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	So I'll answer the question.
	It's, it's.
	Do open relationships cause harm to the relationship if it were to close again or just, um, I mean, I think if you're in a monogamous, I think if you're in a monogamous relationship and then you open it up, but if I was dating a girl and it was monogamous and she came to me and she said, I want to open this up.
	She's done just it's, it's over, you know, like I just, that's a bad sign.
	I think that's a bad omen, like i'm breaking up with her.
	Can I ask why, if?
	Because if, why does she want to open it up?
	I mean, she wants to.
	Essentially, she'd want to.
	She wants to sleep with other men.
	What if she wanted to add a woman?
	Yeah um, i'd rather, i'd rather disappoint only one woman at a time.
	You know, you know the whole threesome thing, but I mean I, I suppose i'd be okay with that if it's a woman.
	If it's yeah, why not?
	Do you think it's like you wouldn't be threatened by another girl but you'd be threatened by another guy?
	Oh, I would never have a threesome with another guy.
	Like, not even threesomes, but open, like if she wanted to go off and have a separate relationship with another woman, you'd be fine no, she's not.
	I wouldn't be okay with that.
	Yeah, I wouldn't be okay with it.
	Um yeah I, I mean I think it really comes down to just the couple being able to come to a mutual understanding and agreement.
	If that's what they both want, fine.
	But uh, I mean the rec.
	I mean I don't recommend.
	If your girl comes to you and she's like I want to open this relationship bro, she already has someone lined up, it's over, like it's done, like she ain't feeling you anymore.
	Um anyways, yeah or sorry Elise if, if you have a question or I mean, no okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, I have a question.
	So when a guy he, the girl, I mean, like have a sex in the first date, does he lose interest?
	Does he lose interest after like, he had sex with her?
	Okay.
	So you're asking me, just me yeah yeah, as a guy yeah so um, I think I'm maybe a bit of an outlier on this one.
	So if a girl sleeps with me on like the first time, I'm not gonna be like oh, she's not worthy of like relationship or commitment.
	Some guys there are some guys, though like, if you hook up with them too quick, they're gonna feel a certain type of way about it.
	They might not, they might not take you seriously.
	For me, I don't.
	I don't think that's really an issue.
	I wouldn't.
	It wouldn't be a deal breaker.
	But there could be potentially other things that are problematic, like if you're annoying, then then yeah, maybe I wouldn't be interested again.
	But yeah, and also, I mean, I don't know, I don't need to sleep with the girl on the first day, like if it's the no, it's just like a question.
	Yeah, just a question.
	Yeah, it's kind of a tough spot because, on one hand, if you wait Too long, then the guy might just be like, I don't want to wait, find somebody else.
	And then, and then, or he does wait and then you hook up once.
	And then I don't know if any of you guys have had that experience where you wait, you hook up, and then that's it.
	So it is, you are kind of in a tough spot where it's like, is he gonna want to continue seeing me?
	And so, yeah, but uh, for me, it's not, I don't, I don't mind.
	I typically, typically, I'll wait till like the second date.
	Um, but yeah, could I step in for a sec too?
	What my grandma always said is like, especially with like when you sleep with a guy on the first night, even if it's not something you do a lot, men have a tendency to never think they're special.
	So, they think if you do it with them, you do it with everyone.
	And they both, yeah, that's what I heard too.
	It could also be, though, that you found him so incredibly charming and attractive that you broke a rule for him.
	So, it could be viewed that way.
	So, it could also be flattering.
	Like, oh, normally, I mean, how would the guy know?
	But so, it could also be viewed in the flattering way, like, oh, she's so into me, whatever.
	But I don't really have any questions.
	Okay, Jane.
	Yeah, I guess, like, because this is your first podcast ever.
	Yeah.
	What is something you'd want to try next time?
	Try next time?
	Or like, like, what's something like, what did you learn from this very first podcast that you'd like take with you?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Good question.
	Thank you.
	A couple things.
	Put the air conditioning on first off.
	It got very toasty.
	I think I would have liked to have a mouse so I could be better prepared, be a little bit better prepared with the questions.
	You know, it's first time, so this is new to me.
	And I definitely appreciate your guys' patience just with everything.
	I definitely want to add some different sort of segments to the show besides just asking questions.
	I think it could definitely be interesting since it is a dating and relationship show, would be to like somehow dive into the like have a girl like connect her well, maybe not connect her phone, but take screenshots of the dating apps.
	And then we could like do some sort of review or something.
	That could be fun.
	But I want to get more tuned in with the soundboard and get some more sounds going.
	But yeah, I'm still figuring it out.
	So yeah, it's just going to be a learning experience.
	But yeah, Chris, do we have any super chats?
	Brian needs a co-host.
	I agree.
	I mean, I do think I want to co-host, but Chris?
	No super chats.
	Okay.
	Are you sure?
	It looks like, I don't know if we have someone on Twitch, though, if you give you 100 bits.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay, yeah.
	Just pull up the Twitch really quick.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, it looks like he used, he cheered like 600 bits.
	Progressive alter ego.
	Hey, man, thank you for the bits.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you for the support.
	All right, guys.
	Well, why don't we bring it back to the just the so that is it for the show.
	Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
	Really appreciate it.
	It's our first show.
	We're still figuring out the kinks.
	We're aiming to switch to tri-weekly.
	So we're going to be doing Sunday, Tuesdays, Thursdays, 7 p.m.
	I'm not sure if we're going to immediately get into that schedule, but that's sort of the end goal.
	Sunday, Tuesday, Thursdays, tri-weekly.
	Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
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	There are links in the description of the video.
	And thank you guys for tuning in.
	And yeah, have a good rest of your night.

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