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George Kittle is an NFL Tight End for the San Francisco 49ers. He is a 4x-time Pro-Bowler, an All-Pro, and appeared in Super Bowl LIV in 2020. He’s also a leader of the annual Tight End University event in Nashville. George Kittle joins Theo Von on This Past Weekend to talk about growing up in Iowa, his Grim Reaper phase in school, making it to the NFL, how to hit a 300lb linebacker, locker room cigs, WWE dreams, and more. ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://www.amazon.com/stores/CELSIUS/ShopNow/page/95D581F4-E14E-4B01-91E7-6E2CA58A3C29 ShipStation: Visit https://shipstation.com/theo to get your FREE 60-day trail with promo code THEO. Manscaped: Visit https://manscaped.com to get 20% off and free shipping with code THEO. Raising Cane’s: Satisfy your Cane’s fix fast by ordering through their app, online at https://raisingcanes.com, or stop by your local restaurant. Draftkings: Download the app now and use code THEO. Bet $5 on UFC 286 to get $200 in bonus bets instantly! 21+ in most eligible states but age varies by jurisdiction. Eligibility and deposit restrictions apply. See draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details and state specific responsible gambling resources. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-Gambler. In New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369). Bonus issued as bonus bets. Terms at sportsbook dot draftkings dot com slash mma terms. ------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" by Bishop Gunn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/ Producer: Ben https://www.instagram.com/benbeckermusic/ Producer Alex https://www.instagram.com/mralexlagos/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	I'm excited to announce a new tour date.
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	Canada as well.
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	Get your tickets and all of them through theovon.com slash T-O-U-R for the Return of the Rat Tour.
	And just thank you guys so much in advance for just making my dreams come true.
	I'm really excited about the show.
	Today's guest is an NFL tight end for the San Francisco 49ers.
	He's an all-pro, four-time Pro Bowler.
	He is hype.
	He is hype.
	He's the savage masseuse.
	He's Captain Violence himself.
	Today's guest is Mr. George Kittle.
	Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song I'll be singing I'm going to stay I'll be singing I just got out of the ice corner.
	So I go for 10 minutes.
	Awesome.
	10 minutes?
	How cold?
	Now that's kind of the negotiable part, I think.
	I agree with you.
	I go for right now.
	I'm at 50. Oh, yeah, dude, for sure.
	I think if you're under like 50 degrees to like 40, I think you're doing a really good job.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because some guys, it's like they want to get as cold as they can.
	They like want to like, they just want to be so cold and they want to just like be like, I'm the coldest guy, you know?
	Congratulations.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	Yeah, congratulations, right?
	Like, you're not, yeah, if you want to be that cold, then move to like the North Pole or something.
	But don't just pretend you're like the, you're fucking Santa, you know, just because you're in your garage.
	We have at San Francisco, we have two ice tubs and one's at 39 degrees and the other one's at like 45. Yeah.
	I'm in the four, like the 39 degree.
	It's like, what are we doing?
	That's what Bosa does all the time.
	Yeah, he likes that one.
	He loves being cold.
	But like my pool in California, it's not heated.
	And so by mid-October, it's like, it's like 52. And then by the time you get through halfway through November, it's like 46. And I just jump in every morning at 6.30 a.m.
	Oh, wow.
	It's awesome.
	Great way to start your day.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It definitely changes my whole perception.
	It kind of takes me out of my brain, I notice, and puts me into my body.
	For sure, dude.
	I love it.
	I just jump right in.
	You're in it for, I mean, I usually do like three, three to five minutes.
	I'm ready to roll for the whole day.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, it's about all I need.
	Yeah.
	I do like, there's days, like, if I have like a recovery day, because like most of the time, like I have to leave my house by 7 a.m., so I don't make it to meetings and stuff like that.
	So, and I don't really want to wake up at, I mean, six.
	I like don't like to wake up before six because as soon as you see like a five on your alarm clock, it sucks.
	Yeah, there is something about that I think that makes you be like, oh, what's going on here?
	Like, I'm a senior citizen or something.
	Like, they like that five.
	Oh, dude, it's terrible.
	I was talking to Taylor Juan today.
	He was like, yeah, my workout started at 5 a.m.
	I was like, why?
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Especially if you're just going to get hurt every year and not even play.
	Oh, well, maybe it's tournament.
	Maybe this is his change.
	Maybe he's doing something different.
	Yeah, you know, hey, Taylor, he'll be healthy, man.
	He'll be fine.
	He's got a couple tough breaks.
	It is what it is.
	Yeah, it is.
	Some of it, I think, is his attitude gets stuck in his knees, too, and fucking ruins him.
	There is something about when you get hurt, you definitely overthink about it, both from your recovery standpoint.
	And then once you get back onto the football field, like that's all you can think about.
	Like, just don't do it again.
	Just don't do it again.
	And the second you start thinking like that, that's when it happens again.
	Have you noticed that?
	Because you had a break, right?
	I broke my foot in 2020.
	Yeah.
	Cuboid.
	It's like up here.
	Yeah.
	And then I, so I came back in five weeks and then the next like five practices, oh, that's all you could think about.
	And it sucks.
	And then you go through a whole offseason, then you kind of forget about it, but still you get back into football.
	That's still what you're thinking about.
	Like, just don't break it again.
	And then like after a while, you just get comfortable and you just forget about it.
	Were there routes and stuff that you would adjust and not do because you just to take the pressure off of it?
	Just like planting really hard on it.
	It kind of just freaked me out a little bit because the way I broke it too didn't really make any sense.
	I just kind of got hit when my foot was in the ground and it just kind of gave out.
	So I was just kind of more cautious, more careful, like picking up my feet when I was getting hit and stuff like that.
	But then like, it's a bone.
	It heals.
	Take a lot of collagen, drink a lot of milk.
	It is what it is.
	Yeah.
	You look great today, by the way.
	Thanks, man.
	I feel pretty good.
	I think getting in that ice plunge, it does, it alters my perception.
	It alters my perspective.
	You know, it's like, so talk to me about that.
	That's what I'll, it's like, I notice if I'm in like kind of a rough mood or I'm kind of like, I want to feel a little bit more kind of in my body.
	If I'm just too much in my head, I'm like, I want to get in my body and I want to, and I don't want to do it.
	So it's like, let me do something I don't want to do.
	Yeah, that's, that's how I see it.
	My thing is I, so I like to do it the first, like later, I wake up, go downstairs and I just jump in my pool.
	It's just like, the first thing I do to start my day is something that's not really fun.
	Yeah.
	But like now I enjoy doing it because I feel great when you get done with it.
	But like you just, you accomplish something that really sucks.
	Yeah.
	And then the rest of your day, like, yeah, you can be dealing with other stuff, other issues, but like you're doing one thing that's difficult to do that not a lot of people like to do.
	It's just like, all right, I'm going to start my day off by accomplishing something.
	That's gangster.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think that's it, man.
	I think it's like, yeah, how can I do something today that I don't want to do?
	It does make everything else a little bit easier then.
	It's even like going like going with going and working out.
	Like, actually, I get a little bit excited because I work out down there with Jeremy Holt and those guys, you know?
	J-Holt's at my house today.
	Oh, was he really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, dang.
	He's my favorite.
	Oh, he's unbelievable.
	But he's also like, he like dresses like he's trying to get molested, I feel like.
	Is that a crazy thing to say?
	He is a handsome dude 24-7, man.
	He smells like a barbershop, too, every time.
	I'm across.
	But I think that, I think, is in the urban community, there's a lot better.
	They tend to be a lot more fragrant.
	Yeah.
	You're not wrong.
	Jeremy smells good all the time.
	I do.
	I always try to, we get under his skin sometimes.
	We always tell him that he needs to brush his teeth once in a while, which he does, but it's just, it's a fun way to talk shit to somebody because not really much you can do if your breath smells like shit.
	Oh, does his breath smell bad?
	No, it's just a fun joke that we play on him because there's not really much of a comeback to that.
	Oh, yeah, that's true, huh?
	Dude, go brush your teeth.
	Yeah, you're like, fuck you.
	And you're like, hey, do I really need my breath really bad?
	That's what people always do.
	That's literally what it is.
	Bro, that is the best, dude.
	The worst thing is, is when somebody does have horrible breath, and especially like if they're at like a nightclub or something and somebody's breath is bad.
	Brutal.
	Oh, and you know what?
	A lot of times, bro, I won't tell them, dude.
	Depends on if I like them or not.
	I feel you.
	You got to be honest with like if it's a buddy, I'll definitely tell them.
	But if it's somebody.
	So if you've got a friend who has something in their teeth, do you tell them?
	Not if it's a girl.
	So, okay, get this.
	I was at the Pro Bowl two years ago and one of the reporters there, I'd like, I was kind of going down the line.
	You have to talk to a certain amount of people.
	And she probably interviewed like six people before she got to me.
	And she just had a huge like piece of spinach in her front two teeth.
	And I was like, you were just on air with six people and no one told you.
	You have a camera guy with four feet from your face.
	I told her right when I started the interview, I was like, you have some of your teeth.
	I was like, I don't know.
	I would be so embarrassed if I just said something in my teeth the entire time and no one told me.
	Like, come on.
	I thought we were friends.
	And women, that shakes them to the core.
	It's almost like telling them they don't even exist.
	I know that sounds crazy, but you tell a woman they have something because it's like, for some reason, it seems to be the only thing they care about.
	Oh, dude, man.
	They're always like, speaking of women, man, your sister taught me yoga.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	That's what she was like, yeah, I'm teaching Theovan yoga.
	And I was like, really?
	That's awesome.
	Good to see you.
	She's so cool, man.
	Was that here?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Right here.
	She taught me yoga because I think you guys didn't live very far away.
	We literally live a block away.
	Live.
	Yeah, I sold that.
	We live out like west of Nashville now, but yeah, we lived there for two years.
	Yeah.
	So it was a pretty easy commute.
	She was the best, man.
	She was like very, she's like very like kind of like ladylike and motherly, but like very like scent, like a sensei kind of.
	She vibes, dude.
	Yes.
	She's got a great vibe to her.
	Yeah, she's like a vibe surfer or something like, you know, she's like the female Laird Hamilton of vibes, I feel like.
	That's a savage compliment, man.
	Yeah.
	And she, dude, she had me do this thing one time.
	It was like wearing these things between my toes, right?
	Yeah.
	And it's like you.
	Yoga toes or?
	I mean, it's just like this thing you wear at night.
	Yes.
	What color were they?
	Blue or white?
	Well, I tried the freaking blue ones, dude.
	The blue ones, dude, I got them.
	I'm obsessed with those.
	The blue ones I see, you could probably do, but can you pull up those toe spacers?
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	I got into those.
	She got me into those, right?
	So they're awesome.
	Whenever I take my Netflix, this Netflix special that I did, she had been teaching me, right?
	So if you see me walk out, I'm walking out like this because she taught me how to walk like a Paleolithic.
	Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about, dude.
	We talk about that stuff all the time.
	Right here, this kind of stuff.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	Yeah, those are the small ones.
	They have a way bigger one.
	They're massive and blue.
	Oh, the big one, I felt like a whore with the bigger ones in.
	They space you out.
	Big gaps.
	It was like, God.
	Well, now, is this a Foot OnlyFans account?
	Is that what we're looking at?
	Is this a podcast?
	I don't know.
	A lot of people make money off that, man.
	That foot fetish.
	Well, foot fetish was the thing I think.
	Help me understand this because I don't understand it.
	I would guess if you are...
	I think it's like a lot of yen that people spend on it.
	Those guys like it because I think Japanese feet are very little.
	You could eat probably a dozen of them.
	You know, for context, that makes sense to me.
	Sure.
	Yeah, totally.
	You're like, okay, now he's like going to Wing Stop and getting the 10-piece bone in or bone out, man?
	Oh, I think if you're going Japanese feet, dude, I'm keeping the bone in.
	I want all of it.
	I think I want the marrow.
	I want all the freaking, you know, the gifts of the Orient, I feel like.
	But I do think that that is what it is.
	They don't have very long.
	It's not like a precious thing over there.
	It's almost like, you know, it's so they don't get to see it.
	So I think for them, seeing like a long foot with toenail polish and stuff, it's very fantastical to them.
	My Emma's fiancé, Cody, he's a pitcher in Japan.
	And so he's like 6'5.
	And he says that the next closest person hardly goes to his chest.
	And so he just stands out like a sore thumb.
	And I was like, that's actually crazy.
	So then you think about feet, like he's a size 14, 15. That's, that's, that's a lot for, that's a lot out there.
	Yeah, he should, we'll get the picks up there for him.
	And I think this, yeah, I don't know if there's a market for it for men.
	Yeah, what is going on with that foot?
	Why do people have foot fetish?
	Can you look it up, please?
	I'm going to call into your show and ask you that question.
	But you came here and asked it.
	I know, but I'll just call in next time.
	Hey, man, this is George.
	I was there a couple weeks ago.
	You solved this mystery yet?
	One researcher proposes that the fetish is due to sensory input in the brain.
	The neuroscientist Vilayanur Ramachandran suggests that the part of the brain that processes the sensation people get from feet is next to the area that perceives genital stimulation.
	Oh, interesting.
	Right on.
	So people want to see that foot.
	They want to see it.
	It gets them going.
	Gets the blood going.
	Yeah.
	I have this exact same thing.
	You do?
	Yeah, it's a nice one.
	The legacy flag guy made it for you?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	He hit me up like four years ago and he made it for me.
	And I was like, dude, thanks.
	Yeah, it's hanging in my house.
	It's in my barn.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	I love it.
	Yeah.
	He sent us this one and another one.
	We'll have to, we'll put his info up actually right now.
	He's done so much.
	He does beautiful flags.
	So I'm going to make sure that we put it on the screen.
	There's nothing like a cool wooden American flag, it's awesome.
	Like, Nick Bosa has, I'm pretty sure, that exact same one in the back of his locker.
	Oh, wow, it's awesome!
	Oh, really?
	In his locker, yeah, this is in the back of his locker.
	I think it got shipped there, and he was like, this is cool, and just set it back up.
	Oh, that's crazy.
	Um, but yeah, I guess that makes sense about a foot because I think also if you think back into maybe, I wonder if like in old times, you could, but if people were like cave people, then you saw the foot all the time, you know?
	Very true.
	I'm just trying to think.
	They weren't really pretty back then, though, were they?
	No, I'm sure.
	Kind of like Hobbit feet.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm sure they were very thick, muscular.
	I bet you they were spread out, though.
	Yeah, very flat, huh?
	Flat, wide toes.
	I mean, like, because you see the photos like indigenous people and their feet, they're literally like, they look like hands.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my gosh, it's crazy.
	And then everyone's like, that's the healthy way.
	Like, that's what your feet want to look like.
	Your shoes make your, you know, they close your toe box in, all that stuff.
	Well, it's kind of hard for me because my profession, I have to wear cleats that are small.
	Oh, you got to keep them tight, huh?
	Well, to an extent, like, I tried, like, I wear the toe space.
	I try to spread them out, keep my feet as healthy as I can.
	But like, once you get to training camp and you're, I mean, you're taking like a couple hundred reps a day, it doesn't really help too much.
	Like, your feet just got to get, you got to build a callus to it, basically, is what you do.
	But then now I'm out of cleats right now for a couple of weeks.
	And it's like your feet just lose that callus and I have to get back into it every single year.
	It's wild.
	Your feet kind of relax almost.
	You almost notice it and feel it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like my feet feel significantly better a month after the season than they do by entire duration.
	Yeah, it's wild.
	Yeah, like I don't, this was a, I learned this because I like pedicures.
	It feels fantastic.
	I like getting my feet massaged.
	It's really nice.
	Getting them cleaned up.
	But like in the season, I don't get a pedicure for the entire season because I don't want to lose any of the callus.
	Like on the bottom of my feet, I don't want any of it scraped off because your feet basically has become these thick blocks and you just got to, especially like where I am.
	I'm in the interior office.
	I'm in the office of line basically all the time.
	And so I get stepped on 24-7.
	So like I like having tough feet, but then as soon as the season's over, I'm back getting pedicures and stuff.
	It's fantastic.
	So you want to keep whatever you can, whatever a little extra you can get.
	Yeah.
	Hopefully my skin is thicker about halfway through the season.
	Dang.
	It's wild.
	Do y'all take stuff that can make your skin thicker?
	I don't know.
	Like, I mean, like, we have a lot of supplements that our, like, our team provides us.
	And I'm just big.
	I do a ton.
	I like collagen.
	Like, that's my big thing, collagen and orange juice.
	And then any type of calcium I can get.
	Like, those are my two big things.
	But that's a good thing to look into.
	Why not?
	I mean, like, you see, like, my shins right here.
	That's just all cleats.
	Oh, dang.
	Yeah.
	Like, my shins are just permanently cut up for like my, the rest of my life.
	Damn.
	Cleats aren't really fun to get kicked by.
	Yeah.
	And do you get to wear shin pads or not?
	So the only guy that ever did that, I'm pretty sure is like Cam Newton did that for a little bit.
	I, I contemplated doing that, but I like football is a really weird sport where you just got to get lucky.
	Like I could be blocking somebody and then the running back could miss me by like an inch or he might kick me in the calf when he's going past me.
	It's just like, you just got to get lucky sometimes.
	And I got really lucky this year where like, yeah, my shins were getting beat up, but like nothing else.
	And so I don't know if I want to be that guy that's out there with the double elbow pads, double knee.
	Like you just don't want to look like that.
	And I just, I can't bring myself to wearing shin pads yet.
	Yeah, there's maybe an aesthetic thing about it.
	Does it um are there, but there, Cam Newton was the guy that did it?
	I think so.
	I think that's what, because I brought it up and like one of my equipment told me that.
	And I was like, if the only other person wears shin guards was a quarterback, I just don't know if I can do that to myself.
	Oh, yeah, because it kind of puts you on a different level.
	Yeah, I know.
	I think I just got to tough it out.
	You know, it's for the, it's just for the sport, man.
	It's got to tough it out.
	Yeah, I could respect that, man.
	I think sometimes, yeah, you want to wear, like, I won't wear like a turtleneck.
	You know?
	I'm not a big turtleneck.
	I don't know if I've ever worn a turtleneck.
	There are guys that pulled off really well.
	That's just not my thing.
	You know who wears one?
	Mike Dika wears a turtleneck a lot, I feel like.
	And I think a lot of people that sell jewelry wear it.
	Ooh, like a little fancy.
	You might see one like on a cool night in Miami.
	A lot of turtlenecks down there.
	Yeah, maybe I can see that kind of.
	The Suave.
	Yeah, I think it's kind of like also like Europeans or Middle Easterners wear it.
	Now there's Cam.
	Now that definitely looks like diapers on the front of his fucking.
	Those are those.
	That's basically what like basketball players wear.
	That's the type of shin guards.
	So like those aren't bad.
	Like I was picturing wearing like the actual soccer shin guards that are like hard.
	Yeah, the hard ones.
	And who knows?
	I might give it a shot this year.
	Who knows?
	If it doesn't affect how I run, which hopefully it doesn't, but you want to be as light as you can because, I mean, the name of the game in the NFL these days is speed.
	Yeah.
	So whoever's fastest is, you know, who makes the most plays and who gets paid.
	And it's also, I think, it could become a mental thing.
	Like sometimes you feel like if you have something on your body, then it's weighing you or it's like if it starts to become a little bit of a hinge and it's not even worth it, I bet.
	No, that's 100% true.
	Cause like I get used, I play with the shoulder sling on because was it my second year?
	I dislocated my shoulder.
	And so like to come back and play and not miss any time, I had like I wore the shoulder sling and now I'm just like superstitious about it.
	And like I still like my shoulders are a little messed up, but like I don't need to wear it, but I literally just do it because it's helps me like just not totally get out of the socket sometimes.
	And but for that, that that took a lot of getting used to just wearing something else on my body.
	Cause at first I was like, well, I can't lift my hand above my head.
	And then after a while, you just get used to it.
	And that's it.
	That's the whole process of it.
	It's just getting used to it.
	Because, you know, like the football, like the girdles that come with like the built-in pads and like your thighs and your hips and stuff like that.
	It's like spandex you'd wear.
	Yeah, I've seen them.
	Yeah, like big panties.
	Yeah, basically.
	And like they have these thick pads in them.
	And I wore them in high school and then I didn't wear them again until I tried them on the NFL and it felt like I was wearing like baggy pants and I hated it.
	It was just way too much going on.
	And so I just do like the little, like those high school white little pads you put into your football pants because like it is, you just, you don't want to wear a lot because you're just trying to be as fast as possible.
	You know, one thing that was interesting, even when your sit when your sister was helping me do yoga, and I just bring that back because we would talk about you sometimes and she was always really interested in like the next, like staying on the pulse of like that is pretty cool, huh?
	That's awesome.
	I know, dude, it's always weird when you think like, would you ever have like one of those of yourself?
	And then like somehow you end up with one.
	Oh, dude.
	Yeah.
	I did a bobblehead thing like in 2018 or 2019 and I still have like 30 of them in a box just in my, in my barn, just in storage.
	And then I got a Nickelodeon one this year.
	That's hilarious to me.
	Really?
	Head is so big, dude.
	Let's bring it up.
	I don't know if you can find it, but yeah, it's hilarious.
	I got to start getting, you know what I should start doing for guests that we have on?
	I should start getting some bobbleheads.
	That's awesome.
	Have you seen, you like the Preds, right?
	Hockey team?
	Yeah, I like the Preds.
	They're not, They don't like themselves.
	I don't think they're not that good.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, so Phil Forsberg's like one of my best friends.
	I love that dude.
	I love going.
	Oh, yeah, there it is.
	Look at that big head.
	Oh, my God.
	That's you, dude.
	What were you going through?
	Dude, when I first opened it, I was like, that boy's faded, Theo.
	That boy right there is faded.
	Yeah, dude.
	Look at that.
	Whoa, bro.
	Hold on, dude.
	That looks like.
	You like it?
	She looks hot.
	Thank you.
	That's a nice...
	Oh, I just got slime.
	Thanks, Nick.
	Really appreciate it.
	Slime.
	Okay.
	Nickelodeon, man.
	Oh, now I get it.
	I thought that was like between two ferns with Zach Aliphan.
	Dude, that'd be awesome.
	That's really what I thought it was.
	I was like, what's going on here?
	This looks like you, I feel like in like 15 years.
	That's a faded old George right there.
	Yeah, huh?
	That looks like George.
	Like if you were in like Pink Floyd or like if you were definitely like riding in a small van.
	White van?
	How many windows?
	I mean, some of the windows had curtains because you were also living in it.
	I think it has that kind of like, oh, we're following the Grateful Dead or we're following widespread panic.
	Yeah, how's it kind of compare?
	It's good.
	I actually just got my fade redone.
	I thought it was coming from a haircut.
	Oh, you did?
	I had to.
	Who does your hair?
	His name's Calvin.
	He cuts a lot of the Titans players.
	And so I met him through one of the guys, and now he just cuts me and all my buddies' hair.
	Fantastic.
	Is he?
	Yeah, North Nashville.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, he really gets on there, huh?
	Oh, yeah.
	High bald fade?
	Damn.
	He's good at it.
	Yeah, I just got my hair cut today, too, actually.
	Ooh, look at us.
	That's crazy.
	This girl Whitney cuts mine here in Nashville.
	Have you ever had anyone mess up your haircut like really bad?
	Oh, dude.
	One time, my freaking friend's dad.
	First of all, never get your hair cut in Mississippi.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Just don't do it.
	I mean, sure.
	Even if it's at the mall, the casino, it doesn't matter.
	Dude, I got a haircut at a casino one time, bro.
	Dude, I'll tell you, this is crazy.
	So one time Chris Pratt actually one time, this is, and I'm kind of name-dropping, but this is what happened.
	He sent me a DM.
	He asked me to be on a movie of his, right?
	So I went through all these things and got like, got the, got the, he helped me get the part in the movie.
	And then I got this horrible haircut.
	God stopped.
	And it made, and we were just about to like start taping.
	And I also didn't, I didn't like the part was very small and it was going to take like 12 weeks to do.
	Oh, ew.
	And I was like, man, this is just.
	It's a lot.
	It's a lot.
	And, but what capped it off was that day I'd gotten, I'd had a show that weekend somewhere and I got my haircut in a casino in Mississippi.
	And it was so fucking bad.
	It pushed me over the edge.
	I was like, I don't, yeah, I definitely don't want to be on camera.
	I don't want to be around anyone.
	I'm out.
	Yeah.
	And this lady just gotten out of like, she went through like this haircutting rehabilitation program through prison or whatever, which I'm all about.
	You should cut your hair?
	Yeah.
	Good for you, man.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	I was like, God wants me here.
	This is what we're doing.
	It was, oh, God.
	I wanted to fucking, bro, I should have gone to prison on that on that lady.
	It was fucking bad, dude.
	And if I ever see that fucking lady again somewhere.
	You want to go to Casino Mississippi with that?
	It was so bad, dude.
	I was like, I gamble.
	I gamble with my most valuable asset, too.
	That's tough.
	It is.
	That's a good asset.
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	I had one.
	So my hair got to a point where it was getting caught in my shoulder pads.
	And so I just went to a barber.
	And what I've realized now is that when you have long hair, you need to go to a salon and like work with someone who knows how to cut long hair.
	I just went to a barber and I swear to God, he gave me a bowl cut without putting a bowl on my head.
	He let my hair down.
	He just cut a circle around my head.
	And I looked at it and I was like, that's tough for me.
	It's really tough.
	And I had to go to a salon literally like an hour later and they had to like fix it for him, but it was still a brutal.
	He just went scissors in a circle.
	It hurts, huh?
	Ah, it really.
	It was a struggle for me.
	My wife looked at me.
	She was like, what is wrong with you?
	I was like, a lot of things at this moment, actually.
	I got to leave.
	Yeah, I've been neutered.
	That's what it feels like.
	Oh, dude.
	People don't know once you've grown like there's something about it.
	Like I could see why Native Americans would go and take the scalp of a man because it was like the most powerful fucking thing you could do.
	It's very disrespectful.
	Did you ever get a haircut like during COVID?
	Like did anyone, like, I had a guy, I had a traveling barber who I met through a person, through a person.
	Traveling barber, like in Nashville.
	That's a homeless guy.
	Dude, he showed up and I asked Neil for a fade and he cut it.
	And then he was on the back of my neck and he was talking to me.
	And he was a football fan.
	So he was talking.
	And, you know, like when you know somebody messes something up and they try to hide it?
	And like, it was like, and I was like, he stopped for like two seconds.
	I was like, you good?
	And he's like, yeah, yeah, no, nothing's wrong.
	And I go in and I show my wife and he basically put a lightning bolt as my neckline.
	It was absolutely brutal.
	Why did he do it?
	He was just not paying attention.
	Oh, yeah.
	He was asking me a football question and he just got excited.
	It was hilarious.
	I looked.
	I was like, you know what, man?
	Just thank you for the time.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to call it a day.
	Oh, my goodness.
	There's nothing worse than getting a bad haircut, man.
	It's brutal.
	It just ruins your whole day.
	And maybe a week.
	Oh, yeah.
	It can ruin even more.
	At least you're married, bro.
	Dude, think, yes, it helps a lot.
	God, you have, yeah, you know, a lady still likes you when you fucking get home.
	Yes.
	Imagine you get a shitty haircut, then you go home and it's just you there.
	Just staring in the mirror like, oh my God.
	I can't leave the house.
	You're trying on different hats and shit.
	You're like, your sudden become a beanie guy.
	Theo, why are you wearing a beanie?
	Don't worry about it.
	It's my thing now.
	yeah you grow a beard that you can't even grow it's just but no one thing that I was interested that was interesting about and I keep going It's okay.
	One thing that was interesting was she's like, she helps train.
	You guys do yoga and stuff.
	She's always like, but she's like, yeah, we stay on the, just try to stay on the cutting edge.
	She just gone to a conference, I think, about, I think it was some type of new yoga or something.
	Yeah, I can't remember what it's called, but yeah.
	But it was just interesting.
	She's like, yeah, our family's big into this.
	Has your family always been like, because I got to meet your father and your mother at the golf at the mother-in-law.
	Oh, that's mother-in-law.
	Yeah, that's my dad.
	No way.
	Yeah.
	Is your mother still alive?
	Yeah, she is.
	She didn't go, my dad.
	Yeah, you're good.
	My dad.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, your wife's mother.
	My wife's mom.
	Yeah, my wife's mom.
	She was in town for, she does, she works with the NFL Hall of Fame Health.
	And so like, she works with former NFL players who are retired, who need help with medical stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	Which is, it's really cool stuff.
	But yeah, I brought my sister, my dad, and my mother-in-law because my sister and my dad, they have the podcast now.
	And so what's it called?
	Hidden Pearls.
	Right.
	Hidden Pearls podcast.
	But they were in Scottsdale for an event up there.
	And I happened to have a couple extra tickets, so they got to go with me.
	Yeah, it was cool, man, because, yeah, I'd always heard about y'all's dad.
	And then to get to see your sister again was great.
	But yeah, has y'all's family always been like super health conscious?
	To an extent like my mom's been a vegetarian most of my life.
	Oh, wow.
	And you grew up in the Midwest.
	Did grew up in the Midwest.
	Oh my God, dude, were people just throwing like Molotov cocktails?
	No, she was fine.
	She would like, she eats fish once in a while.
	It's like not true vegetarian.
	But like now, I would say, I'd say like the last 10 years, my family's become like super health conscious.
	Well, like my dad's 60, my parents are both.
	My dad's 64, my mom's 63. Wow, he looks great.
	He does look great.
	But my dad, like his side of the family has like health issues.
	And so he's like, I'm not going to let that happen to me.
	And so I'm going to be as healthy as I possibly can.
	So my dad's basically vegan now for like the last five years.
	I'm going to fight it.
	Bring him up.
	His name is Bruce.
	Bruce.
	Bruce Kittle.
	Let's bring him up in here.
	I want to get a JPEG of this fella right here.
	Because, yeah, look at him.
	There he is.
	Oh, yeah, look at that guy.
	And this happened.
	He's a little zenned out in this picture, but he's definitely a tough man.
	Yeah, he is.
	Oh, that's you and him.
	That's me and him.
	Is that right down the street?
	No.
	Yeah, that was there.
	Oh, that's crazy.
	So, yeah, so was he?
	Oh, yeah, look at that hair photo of him in college.
	Where is it?
	Let me see.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	I know, right?
	So he went to the worst barber.
	Oh, dude.
	He tried to keep his hair for a while.
	He's been involved since probably like 40, 45. He just shaves it off.
	So were you worried about that?
	Oh, I know that when I cut the hair, I don't know if it's going to come back very well.
	It is what it is.
	So my wife likes it, so I'm going to keep it as long as she likes it, and then I'll cut it off when I cut it off, and it is what it is.
	Save it, probably.
	We thought about cutting off some of, like, whenever I get my hair cut, saving it and selling little 20 sacks of it at the.
	You could probably just walk down Broadway.
	People would buy it.
	Well, we want to sell it after comedy shows.
	We want to have a special thing where there's like a limited edition, 40 of them, and they're just little 20 bags and like little drug baggies.
	But not that I know what that is.
	That's like the dude selling the sand from where Tom Brady did his retirement speech from.
	Someone sold it for $400.
	I was like, are you like, who's going to buy that?
	Why would you do that?
	So fucking sand monkey out there.
	Were you guys really tough?
	Because your whole family is very fit.
	Yes.
	Was that a big thing growing up?
	Was there like, like, did you have to do chin-ups to get seconds and stuff?
	No, not at all.
	No, my mom's a two-sport Hall of Fame athlete in Iowa high school.
	Oh, wow.
	Softball and basketball.
	My dad was a football player and a wrestler.
	And so we just kind of been athletes.
	Emma was a great athlete.
	She was like, I don't know, like.
	She was volleyball, right?
	She played volleyball in college.
	She did basketball and volleyball in high school.
	I think she was like first team all state and all her stuff.
	So she's a freak athlete, too.
	So we've always just been athletic, but no, like it wasn't a, my dad was always big on, like, there are dads out there who are like very strict on their kids about stuff.
	My dad just gave me like a template, like, hey, these are things that are going to lead to your success.
	You can choose to do them or not.
	I'm going to help you like make the right decision.
	Like, I'm not going to force you to do it.
	It's on you.
	But like, what are your dreams?
	I want to play in the NFL.
	This is going to help you get to there, like just doing these things a little bit better.
	But his biggest thing was like, hey, work hard, try to get better and have fun.
	Because if you have fun, it's a lot easier.
	That's like been my mindset.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, I just kind of wondered.
	Yeah, I just wondered like, yeah, was it like real intense or was it not really?
	It was just you guys having a good time.
	Yeah, it was a great time.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, there wasn't too much strictness with it.
	Like my parents are just, they're always, I mean, I was a pretty good kid.
	I didn't really do a lot.
	Like, I was very nice.
	I played football, basketball, and then I came home and I played Halo 3. That's about all I did.
	Oh, dang.
	It's pretty easy.
	I was low-key.
	Were you?
	Yes, very.
	My sister wasn't, but you can have her on the podcast to discuss that.
	Yeah, maybe sometime.
	That'd be interesting.
	So what else?
	Oh, I was thinking about this, dude.
	Oh, no, there was one more question I wanted to ask.
	Oh, but y'all's family seems really close.
	Very.
	Yeah, we just always have been.
	It's just, it's, yeah, mom, dad, me, and my sister.
	So it's like, we moved around a bunch.
	I went to like, I went to like 15 different schools, school districts basically growing up.
	I started in Wisconsin.
	That's where I was born.
	Moved back to Iowa because both my parents, their families are from there.
	I don't know my mom has nine sisters.
	So she's one of 10 girls.
	Wow.
	Oh, I would have loved to live next door, dude.
	My God, dude.
	That's funny.
	Wow.
	Yes, they lived in like small town Iowa.
	What town was it?
	Mount Union, Iowa is what it's like Mount Pleasant.
	It's an hour south of Iowa City where the University of Iowa is.
	Okay.
	So it's just down southeast Iowa.
	So like we moved back to Iowa.
	Then we just kind of moved around a lot with my dad.
	He just wanted to be closer to his job.
	We had land.
	Didn't like the house.
	We lived in, just moved around a bunch.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, my mom went to college in Iowa.
	I think at like Co Land College or something.
	Coke College?
	Cedar Apple is Iowa.
	I've had friends that go to Coke College.
	Cedar Appens is an interesting town.
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	I like Dubuque maybe a little bit more.
	That's where my wife's from.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	On the border.
	I like Dubuque.
	They got some really neat hotels and stuff right there along the river.
	Oh, yeah.
	What is that called?
	Did you stay in the room where Al Capone was in it, right?
	Yeah, that's right.
	I was in that room, too.
	Were you?
	The Juliet or something like that.
	Yeah, Julius.
	It's in that hotel.
	It's Dubuque.
	Dubuque, Iowa, like the Julius or Juliet, something like that.
	Yeah, it's a cool hotel.
	One of my buddies got married there.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah, Mark Twain, I think, would write a lot about that area and stuff.
	And so it's kind of a cool area.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, there's just big bridges that go across.
	Hotel Julian, maybe?
	Julian, yeah, that's it.
	That's it.
	I was close.
	I got the jewel right.
	And it's haunted.
	It says, read it about Al Capone.
	He's booking us a damn room, dude.
	Come on, man.
	We're just friends.
	Yeah, no, like there was a room that he stayed in that he put like, I don't know if it was a safe or like a closet.
	It was a hidden door that you would hide in if like cops ever came to the hotel.
	And so they just leave it permanently open now.
	Yeah, I was right.
	There we go.
	There you go.
	Hotel Julian.
	Dubuque became known as one of the finest hotels in the Midwest and hosted many grand banquets and famous guests.
	But all the personages said to have stayed at the hotel.
	Local lore alleges that when things got hot in Chicago, Capone would travel with his honorage to Dubuque and hide out at Hotel Julian.
	Yeah, there's like a hidden room and there's a hidden room in that hotel room and they leave it open like I said out, but it used to like blend in.
	Oh, wow.
	It was really cool stuff.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, it's, yeah, I really like Dubuque, though.
	I just, even just walking around the little, the, the downtown, I really enjoyed it.
	Dude, you have like this, do you start to feel like you have like this almost like wrestling type of vibe about you, right?
	And people have said that you're a wrestling fan.
	I am.
	Do you start to, do you like, do you feel like more of a character when you're playing football sometimes these days?
	Maybe.
	I think football is a place where like I authentically get a, I mean, I think I'm authentically myself all the time, but the great thing about football is it's one of the only professions where you get to beat the shit out of someone, not get arrested for it.
	Yeah.
	There's not very many of those sports, right?
	And so that's really fun for me.
	Except Memphis, maybe I think you can do it these days.
	But yeah, I don't think it's like as sanctioned.
	Yeah, probably not.
	You know, that's frowned upon.
	Yeah.
	Frowned upon.
	But like in the NFL, so like, I just get to go out there and I get to hit people.
	I get to have fun.
	I mean, I'm playing a kid's game, dude, and getting paid a lot of money to do it.
	So like I'm going to work my tail off, but I'm going to enjoy it every second that I'm out there because you only get so many reps.
	There's only so much tread on the tire.
	And you got Tom Brady who can play for 20 years, maybe 21. And then like, you know, but the average, you know, lifespan is like three years.
	So I'm going to year seven.
	I'm doing pretty well for myself.
	So it's like, hey, I'm going to play as long as I can.
	I'm going to play at a high level as long as I can, but I'm going to have a great time every time I'm out there.
	And do you feel like it's easier for guys now?
	Is there more of a like the aspect of it now where let me think of exactly what I'm trying to say?
	So it seems like you want to stay in it longer now, right?
	Everybody's always wanted to stay in it longer, but now it's obviously it's a bigger business now than it was 20 years ago.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, there's significantly more money in it.
	I mean, you just saw like two quarterbacks just got paid over $100 million with like $70 million.
	One guy got guaranteed like $83 million.
	That's more than my entire contract.
	Wow.
	That's wild.
	That's wild.
	I mean, it was Daniel Jones, right?
	Yeah.
	Good for him.
	Happy for him.
	I love it when guys in the NFL get paid because it's really hard to get paid.
	Wow.
	And so once you're like, I love everybody getting paid.
	I do not care who they is.
	If I think they're a good player, if I think they're a bad player, awesome.
	You got paid.
	You're set for life.
	Like, just don't squander it, please.
	What do you mean when you say it's hard for guys to get paid?
	Well, like, you have to, the NFL is full of like every NFL player, college, you have high school, which is like you have hundreds of thousands of kids playing high school, right?
	And you just think about like the number, you have millions of kids playing high school.
	You have hundreds of thousands of people playing college football.
	There's 1,500 nfl players like just like the percentage is just so small then when you get there like every team has all-americans in college heisman trophy winners and it's just like you have to figure out what you do better than everybody else and then how to do like how to do that for as long as you can and that's like kind of what the nfl is like surviving the nfl is really hard like there's fantastic players and athletes out there that should be nfl and aren't right like that happens all the time it's like a lot of guys don't take advantage of that opportunity so it's hard to get paid you have to have a right you have to take advantage of that opportunity when it's in front of you are there any
	players that come to mind where you're like man that player it just it didn't pan out or they got there was an injury that happened or oh i mean like uh one of my out of let's see one of my favorite football players of all time was bob sanders he's a safety for the indeapolis colts he played for iowa uh he won defensive mvp one year but like he just had an assortment of injuries and he would have been in my he was a first ballot hall of famer and then he just had all these injuries that he couldn't stay healthy and then he played in the pros oh yeah he was with the yeah like nfl mvp for defense like amazing football player as a safety which is
	really hard to do these days and he was incredible and uh yeah he had like a back injury he had leg injury shoulder injuries because he hit people so hard that maybe he'd be hurt and it's just like instead of being a first ballot hall of famer like he'll always be remembered as a really good football player but like injury kind of took that away from him and so he could have gotten paid a lot more money too probably that's what's hard it's like you have to stay healthy you have to be in the right situation you have to make a lot of plays and you have to get into those like when are the what are the years you kind of get paid on what are some of those levels that it's like uh after the most of the time is like i got paid after year three okay i was on a four-year rookie deal
	most of the extensions happen after three years um or you can after year four you're a free agent is what you're seeing now like that's where the real money is because like everyone's bidding on you and that's where the good stuff is um but yeah most guys get paid after three if you're a first-round draft pick like teams have a fifth year right to you and so those a first-round draft pick might not get paid till after year four um but they already got a you know first round signing bonus so like they're doing well for themselves i see do you think it like as a player gets into that year where it's like okay the next year they're going to
	get paid is it common where guys will kind of and maybe this is an overall question i was trying to ask earlier where you'll do you feel like oh as overall as the league that the players everybody's almost like all right let's don't go too crazy here today so that we could all play again next year there is a i would say a majority of the nfl like yeah a high majority of the nfl is not trying to hurt other players i give a couple crazy guys that don't care if they do like i don't think their intention is i'm trying to blow your
	knee out i don't think that's a thing really anymore but i definitely like there are there are some guys who are more conscious about it than other guys and like there's hits that you can't avoid and it is what it is but um yeah i think i was like i've had a time this is my third year it was like week 15 and i've been healthy the entire year and i'm literally i'm there's a pile right behind me and a guy and like my legs are pinned and if a guy wanted to he could have like literally just thrown me backwards it's going to be a really awkward fall for me instead he like he grabbed me and pulled me out of the way and he's like dog you're worth too
	much to do that i was like i really appreciate you thank you so much it's very nice of you you're amazing and so like that happened to me and i was like you know what like that's kind of how i am too like i never want to hurt anybody like i cut block you know i have to like how do you expect i'll do it at the mall dude if somebody's fucking up you just dive at a dude's ankles put your head through his kneecap dude like and there's like there that's football right like and people want to outlaw certain things like i like the try not to hit him in the head like i appreciate that like i don't want to get hit in the head a lot it sucks um concussions aren't fun but
	um yeah just getting head hit in the head but in general like just kind of sucks so like guys are conscious about that i like the protection nfl has but like there's certain jobs like there's certain jobs like hey i'm gonna cut block you and i'm gonna hit you in the knees and you know i i don't like try to hurt anybody through it but like just it's a part of the game yeah so it's kind of weird but like i said it's violence that's um appreciated by everybody yeah i think that's true so you have to does it almost start to feel like wrestling then at some point late in the league like or like to an extent like there's there's a lot like there's yeah i
	would say to an extent like i would say there's a handful of us out there who are treating it like wrestling to like you know having fun out there like that but uh yeah i mean everyone's just everyone's out there everyone wants like everyone's goal is to win a super i mean i hope everyone's goal is to win a super bowl like that's what my goal is and then whatever comes with that but like i'm not gonna go out of my way like you know to inflict too much pain on somebody but enough right right yeah because i think yeah i wonder if it used to be different you know i think back in the day they cared less about each other but there's a lot more going on back then
	like a lot of did you ever see the clip of it was on instagram but it was like the 1980 maybe like 1990 highlight for like nb or cbs like uh sunday football or something like that and like the whole highlight video is just like guys getting their knees taken out guys getting thrown onto their heads like just getting smoked and like every every highlight in that like cut up is illegal in today's game which is crazy but guys used to get messed up back in the day but then you have to take in like are the guys that played in the like if you played
	in the nfl you're like good for you you were a good athlete like you played at a high level you played it with the best but like the game in the 80s and even the 90s is way different than it is today like just the athletes too like you got guys out there running four 240s like left and right in the 80s i you might have had one guy in the whole nfl that could do that but now it's like every team has three guys it's just crazy how the game's evolved and now like look at like you guys see guys like miles garrett that dude's 6'5 280 pounds and he's just muscle with five percent body fat it's just like he didn't exist they didn't exist right
	he didn't he didn't exist 20 years ago that's crazy they didn't even exist yeah like he just didn't like that wasn't a thing or like you might have had one in the entire nfl but like now the like guys that look like that are everywhere i have like five guys in my locker room that if they wanted to if they punched me in the face i could die it's wild i got i'm just like oh my like his fist is the size of my entire face and he could kill me with one punch it's kind of weird to go to work with people like that yeah i bet it's weird oh i would keep a little treat bag on me like they do with like with their raising uh you know somebody
	that's raising some skittles or just something go to kit cat bar i'd give them probably a decent meat or something i'd give them a damn wagoo at that level you gotta keep them pleased yeah hey wait what you want a bottle of tequila wine what do you want you want canis yeah hey ron calm down on this next play a little bit hey dude satiate them thank you yeah um that's funny you were talking about having a i i read something somewhere you were you were thinking that they should have an extra bye week right oh i'd love to talk about this to you yeah so
	we we the nfl it starts in let's see, I leave for training camp July 24th.
	Okay, and what is it now?
	January, February.
	It's like March something.
	We're in March sometime.
	But so you report in July 24th, and my season technically ended on January 29th.
	That's a long season, right?
	Okay, so you have five months off.
	Ish, but like we have spring football that starts April 15th, and that's two months.
	Oh, dang.
	What do you have to do there?
	It's not like it's not as much contact, but you're just the first like two weeks is just working out, like getting you into shape.
	And you have to be there.
	Physically, you can zoom.
	No, so it's not mandatory, one of those things.
	Like they want you there.
	Some guys have workout bonuses in their contract so they can only miss so many days, but like their coaches want you to be there.
	If you're a vet, there's going to be like Trent Williams probably won't show up for a couple weeks because he doesn't really need to get better at football.
	Not going to lie.
	He's probably the best football player in the NFL.
	It's our offensive lineman, our left tackle.
	But there's certain guys that don't do OTAs.
	But it's really beneficial for young guys because you just learn the playbook.
	You go through the meetings.
	It's kind of like if you haven't really been in the NFL too much, it's kind of like a just a boot camp for the season.
	Just kind of gets you ready for it.
	And there's one week that's mandatory at the end of it that everybody has to go to or you can get signed.
	But it's not mandatory.
	I always go to like the, I usually show up like May 1st.
	I'm like two weeks late usually just because my, like, I didn't get, yesterday was my first day in Asheville.
	Wow, really?
	And it's like, yeah, the first week of March.
	And so like the entire month of February, I was doing stuff, whether it was Pro Bowl, I was at the Super Bowl doing some like gigs, working with some of my marketing partners.
	And then after that, I did like a 10-day vacation with my wife because I was like, I haven't gone on a vacation in seven months.
	So I'd like to go see a beach.
	Yeah.
	Sounds really nice right now.
	You go to Maui?
	I went.
	So I did Maui last year.
	Hawaii is awesome.
	Beautiful.
	So great.
	It is beautiful.
	I wish it wasn't as expensive as it is, but like I get it.
	But like, I don't know.
	Like, there's beautiful places in the world that I haven't been, but that's one of my favorite places.
	Like, you're in the ocean and there's just massive islands that look like they could move at any second and wreak havoc.
	Like, that's what I see.
	I'm like, wow, that's some cool stuff.
	But I was, I wasn't thinking.
	You're living like, damn, breath of the wild.
	You're living like Zelda style, dude.
	That's what it feels like, dude.
	Yeah.
	You're thinking like that.
	That's how I see you.
	I'm like, is that like a giant Pokemon?
	Is that going to stand up and come over here, dude?
	Like, that stuff freaks.
	Like, that's what I think about when I'm out there.
	I'm like, wow, I'm just chilling right now.
	I know, right?
	I'm a 13-year-old kid, Theo.
	Yeah, it seems like that.
	It seems like you're just kind of like living in these crazy adult dream worlds of a child, but that you're actually getting to navigate through them.
	It's wild.
	So what about that extra bye week?
	Oh, yeah.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, bye weeks.
	No, it's okay.
	So the season, like January, let's say July 24th, right?
	And you're like fully practicing, let's just say July.
	Like the first couple of days are pretty easy, but like by August 1st, you're going full speed go from August 1st until if you're in the playoffs or like Super Bowl, like it's mid-February.
	So your body's just rolling and getting beat up.
	And so, and then two years ago, they added a 17th, a 17th game.
	Yeah, who did that?
	The money people?
	You know what?
	I voted no on it, but it is what it is.
	Did you guys vote count?
	Well, so there was like, it was a new CBA, the bargaining agreement.
	And they put in, how I understand it and how it was explained to me is like they kind of just put the 17th game out there.
	And as players, our board or like the player voted reps, we're like, no, we're not going to do that.
	And then when they finally gave us an offer, it was kind of like, you're going to accept this or else.
	And it somehow passed the voting process and then went to the players.
	And it wasn't, I don't know how well it was explained because it was in the middle of COVID too.
	So it was really hard to get a hold of people.
	Like it was weird.
	And that was like Zoom.
	Zoom was just kind of getting along too.
	So like it was difficult to, you know, get a lot of people on a phone call.
	I mean, think about it, these 1,500 guys in the league.
	They were trying to do like league-wide meetings.
	Can you imagine 1,500 people on a phone call?
	Zoom call?
	Yeah, like it, it, it was crazy.
	And so like, it was difficult to get all the information out there.
	So we voted and however many people voted, like there's a possible like 1,500 votes.
	Only like 800 people voted out of the 1,500 or something like that.
	And the thing, it passed.
	And so the 17th game was included now.
	And so they added a 17th game.
	And so this is all my theory is if you're going to add a game.
	So the week, the season's 18 weeks long because there's one bye week for every team, right?
	If you just add another bye week and you give everybody two, it'll be a 19-week season.
	There's more, there's more weeks of football, more money to be made, and your best players are staying healthy.
	So like, why not just do it?
	It makes simple sense to me because, and you can just, I don't think any player right now, if the NFL announced like we're going to give everybody a second bye week, I don't think anybody would ever complain about that.
	And like, okay, that makes our season one week longer.
	Now we're getting done the third week of February.
	Okay, like maybe take out a week of OTAs and just give us a week on the back end to, you know, let guys, you know, go on vacation or give another guys a week to train.
	It's like, once you're in the NFL and it's your job, like everybody wants to play football.
	It doesn't really take me a lot to get motivated to play football.
	I love what I do and I think everybody else does.
	So it's like, and there's like young guys, you have to keep them like in line kind of because they don't understand it yet, like OTAs and stuff like that.
	But if you get like, there's NFL guys want to show up and they're going to play at a high level because they want to get paid.
	They love playing on the football field.
	You feel like a gladiator when you stand in the new Raider Stadium and it's straight up and there's whatever 70,000 people looking down on me.
	Oh, dude, it's one of the coolest feelings ever.
	Like you literally look up.
	You just kill somebody at halftime.
	You feel like it, dude.
	It's really fun.
	So my whole thing is just like, add a bye week, I don't think anyone's going to get upset about it.
	And your best player is going to stay healthier longer.
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	It does make sense.
	How tough is it to stay, how tough is that turnaround on the body, honestly?
	Is it really tough?
	Like Sunday to Sunday?
	Yeah, on that Sunday to Sunday.
	We don't get that.
	It's hard to understand.
	Yeah, no, it's literally, I'm in a car accident every Sunday, multiple car accidents every Sunday.
	Oh, damn.
	Multiple every Sunday.
	And like, like I said earlier, like there's a part of luck to it.
	Like there is a game, like I've had games where I hyperextend my knee and like that's gonna, that's gonna affect your season.
	Like that's gonna be there.
	Or you burst a burst a sac in your knee.
	That's gonna be there for several weeks.
	And if you get lucky, don't have to deal with that stuff.
	It's a little bit better.
	But like you're still getting these car accidents.
	And like Monday, you actually, like Monday, I have to do like a big lower body lift.
	I have to move.
	Otherwise, you get really stiff and like you get more sore.
	So you do a big lift, try to stay a little bit mobile.
	But Mondays, I usually feel okay.
	Tuesdays are really, really hard days.
	Like it's like the second day afterwards, you kind of feel everything.
	Whiplash kind of.
	Yeah, it's literally what it is.
	And like there, and some Tuesdays are better than others.
	Like some like, and especially like if we play on the East Coast, we have a five-hour flight back.
	I get home at 4 a.m.
	Those are tough.
	But like you get in these car accidents and like it takes like Thursday to Fridays when I start to feel like myself again.
	And it's, and then like the longer into this, the more into the season you get, the more like your body it's wear and tear, wear and tear, wear and tear.
	So like really now, like how I see it is if I'm not doing football, I'm doing recovery, whether it's tubs, whether it's BFR workouts, whether it's just movement, yoga, red light therapy, saunas, like whatever it is that can make my body, hyperbaric chambers are big now.
	Whatever is like available, that's all I do.
	Like I get home from practice.
	I get home at like, let's just say on a Wednesday, I'll be home at like 6, 6.30.
	I'm instantly, my next two and a half hours are rehab.
	And like you can do a lot of stuff at the stadium.
	What I've done is because I got a contract.
	So I can afford to have a lot of that stuff in my house now.
	So then I get home fast.
	I can hang out with my wife for longer.
	Cause like my first two years in my first three years in the league, I was at the facility from like, or I think our meeting started.
	Listen, if our meeting started at eight, I'm there from 6.15 until like 7.30, 8 o'clock at night for like, yeah, it's just, it's a long day, especially in then like, I want to be home, I want to be with my wife.
	And so it's just like, I've purchased those things to have them in my house.
	And so I can just, I have a couple extra hours.
	But like, literally, that's all you do now is rehab and rehabilitation.
	And there are guys that don't do that.
	I don't know how they survive.
	I don't understand it.
	Yeah.
	It's, it's actually crazy.
	Like some guys, like, they don't have to do all that stuff, but that's something I, like, I've dedicated my, well, I mean, like the football window is, like I said, the average lifespan is three years.
	So, I mean, like the window in the grand scheme of my life, my college, my rookie, sorry, my freshman year, I had a coach, David Rye, told me this.
	He was like, a draw on a board is like, if you line here and line here, let's just say it's 100 years, right?
	That's your life.
	I'll do it so you can see it.
	100 years, this is zero.
	And like, so here you are, you're 18 years old.
	You're right here.
	This four-year window of college is this big.
	And then you have the rest of your life.
	Why not take advantage of that small ass window, right?
	Do everything you can to be the best.
	You can do those four years.
	So now after college, now you get a chance in the NFL.
	And now you're getting to the, now it's this big, it's a bigger window, but it's still like a sliver.
	It's like 12 to 12 years of your life.
	Yeah, one tenth of your life.
	And so like, why not put all your effort into being available and being the best player you could possibly be?
	Yeah.
	And like, like, there are guys like, I don't touch, I don't ski.
	I don't do anything possible.
	Like, I don't even play pickup basketball anymore.
	Like, I'm just like, it's not worth it.
	You could do hide and go seek, you think?
	I could do that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Freeze tag, maybe.
	I was a big freeze tag guy back in the day.
	Really?
	Do you ever play Ghost in the Graveyard?
	Like you have one, you play at night and like one person and like you have to hide.
	And the whole point of the game is if they tag you, you're a ghost, but you have to make it back to the home base, which is where the ghost counts from.
	And like they give you like to go around the clock one time and then it strikes midnight and then the ghost comes for you.
	Oh, damn.
	I used to play the hell out of that game.
	It was so fun.
	Really?
	I never got tagged that.
	Really?
	Yeah, Ghost in the Graveyard.
	So much fun.
	Damn.
	That's what I played when I was like four, five, six.
	Like, that was some of my favorite playing.
	We didn't play.
	I don't think we played that.
	I don't know.
	They had so many pedophiles in our neighborhood.
	We didn't even play.
	You shouldn't hide.
	Yeah, we can't.
	If I got found, dude.
	Well, yeah, if you do get found, it's by some broad man who has cable or whatever.
	He has cable?
	Or some bullshit?
	He's going to kick up some person.
	Yeah, it's always just some fucking lie or something.
	You know, I got two VCRs, you know.
	Like, we can watch a movie.
	You can just look at the other one.
	Some bait.
	We can have two movies on at the same time.
	Yeah, dude.
	Just shit to blow a kid's mind, you know.
	That's funny as What were we just talking about right before that, though?
	Oh, the longevity.
	Longevity.
	I was talking about like the window of your career and stuff.
	Well, it even happens with comedy.
	It's like, I know, it's like, I know when I get back off the like when I'm on the road, it's like I know that I have to do yoga right before I go on stage, right?
	Yeah, I'll finish yoga literally probably about nine minutes before I go on, and then I'll get in the shower.
	I'll take like a three-minute shower.
	Okay.
	And then I'll get out.
	And it's just, that's my pattern, right?
	It's like, if I'm up late, I'll make sure that I get eight hours of sleep.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so let me ask you this.
	So, so like football on our game day, right, Sundays, depending on whenever you kick off at 1.35, 125, whatever it is, the schedule is perfectly adjusted for, they'll tell you when you should wake up.
	And like, breakfast is here.
	The bus leaves at this exact time.
	And it's, you know, in accordance, like, but it's always the exact, like it's two and a half, it's three hours before kickoff.
	It's two and a half hours before kickoff.
	And everything is regimented perfectly.
	And so like I have the, every Sunday, I do the exact same thing from like, I mean, I usually, I'm very, I like my routines like to get into the mindset and to flip the switch to like go out there and play football.
	And so like from about, yeah, I mean, from Saturday morning until after the game Sunday, like I do the exact same thing every time.
	Yeah.
	It's wild.
	But like, so like you were saying, like you do yoga and you go shower, that habit.
	Yeah.
	It's kind of interesting to hear like how yours is different than mine, but you still have something like that before you go on stage.
	Yeah.
	And when I get home, it's like I'll have to like, I make sure I go to the gym.
	I make sure I go to the workout with the trainer guys whenever I'm home, right?
	I make sure I go get the NAD and like I'll get the NAD and the extra fluids probably.
	I'll probably go every other day.
	Do you?
	Yeah.
	And if I don't get NAD every time, I'll get at least the extra fluids every time just to keep myself hydrated.
	Where do you go for that?
	I go to Areti.
	Yeah.
	Erete.
	Erete, yeah.
	Or yeah, they keep changing the name of it, but they, but yeah, it's nice in there.
	The women in there is good with the needle in there.
	They know what they're doing, which is wonderful.
	You ever have a bad IV experience?
	Yeah, dude.
	My buddy.
	What?
	My buddy the other day, he fucking, I'm vaccinated.
	He's like, yeah, I'll get an IV too.
	I'm like, yeah, give it a boy, right?
	Bro, this fucking lady put like fucking nine holes in it and never got it in.
	Oh.
	And he's like six free of you.
	You can't find a fucking vein on this guy.
	Dude, that gives me anxiety.
	I don't, I'm not a big needle guy by any means.
	I had my first IV I ever got was because I had to get to get ankle surgery in college.
	And the first time she missed my vein six times.
	Oh my God.
	And then she got it.
	And then she called someone else in to do it.
	And they did it.
	And I was fine.
	A month later, I had to go back and do the other ankle.
	And the lady got on her first try.
	There wasn't a lid on it.
	And my blood just started squirting out.
	And I just passed out.
	Those are my first two experiences with IVs.
	And so I'm kind of shook with them.
	But I do it like you need the liquid.
	You need the hydration.
	Like the benefits that they have outweigh my mild uncomfortableness.
	Yeah, I think that's it.
	And I start to get over it.
	I will, what I'll do is when I'm to make them do one, two, three, four they put the needle in and then I'll like jab my fingers into the side of my head to give an opposite pain.
	Yeah.
	So pain transfer theory.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I bite the shit out of my tongue.
	It helps, dude.
	I just bite my tongue.
	No, I haven't done that.
	It sucks.
	Or bite your lip, either one.
	I'm not doing that.
	That's crazy.
	I feel like it is psychopathic sometimes.
	Next time I see you, you just have eaten your whole lip off.
	Oh, dude.
	No, I bite the hell out of my tongue if I'm doing something uncomfortable.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Yeah, but I'll do that.
	I'll like jet.
	I'm sure the women in there are.
	What is wrong with him?
	They must think men are just the whip because they're like having to give birth or whatever, like pierce their breasts or whatever.
	But like and men are like, you know, we can't even take the, take that needle from them.
	But I do think the NAD is interesting.
	I noticed with the NAD, I'm able to just go from one, like this exercise, this exercise, keep going.
	It's almost like I'm not even in my body.
	It's like I'm just keep doing it.
	You're not like, I don't do it all the time.
	I do, I do like it, though.
	Like, I think I was just, I wake up with more energy.
	Like, that's the thing.
	That's what I'll always do it like in the afternoon.
	And it kind of makes me sleepy.
	Like, I'm not going to lie.
	But like the next day, I feel fantastic.
	And that's kind of how I view it.
	And I don't do it all the time.
	I know some guys that like do a thousand milliliters.
	I'm like, you guys are psychopaths.
	Like I was doing, I got up to like 500 and I was doing about 22 minutes.
	I was pretty proud of myself.
	Damn, that's insane.
	That was like, that was a couple years ago.
	Like now, dude, I can already do 100.
	I'm just like, oh, this is the worst experience of my life.
	It just burns you down.
	You guys were doing it five years ago?
	No, sorry.
	Like, no, I was doing, I was doing 500 milliliters like two to three years ago.
	Okay.
	That's when I kind of got into it.
	Wow, that's still a long time ago.
	I feel like it's just kind of become popular amongst us.
	like I'm just a pretty much a regular person.
	So I would hear about like- Like people are just under maybe six months ago, you would hear it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think it just gets promoted a little bit better, like the benefits of it.
	Like there's are things out there that, well, one for athletes, it's legal and it's healthy for you.
	So it's just like, well, why would I not do something that's going to help my body and just feel better overall?
	It is expensive, though.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's a dollar a milliliter.
	It's crazy.
	It's crazy, dude.
	It's crazy.
	It's like printer ink.
	Yeah, dude.
	Yeah.
	Why is that so expensive?
	It's crazy, dude.
	It is crazy.
	They jack it up.
	I guess if you want to read, you're going to fucking pay for it, you pussy.
	But so if you got into wrestling, dude, say after this, because that's what I think you start to become some, some guys, they become some players or some athletes, they are also able to become like a character in a way.
	I feel like you have like enough energy and like just like this kind of psychocharisma, I would call it, where you can also be like a character.
	Yeah, and it's like, I do mean it as a compliment, but it's like, so I could almost see you doing wrestling one day.
	I would love to be in the ring at some point.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	So I've been, I was in a match.
	It was actually right after I got drafted by the Niners.
	My buddy was doing a like a local, it was like an hour away from my house in Iowa.
	He was doing a show.
	And it's actually Seth Rollins, WWE wrestler.
	It's his wrestling school in Davenport, Iowa.
	And they put on shows.
	And so he was.
	It's one of the quad cities, isn't it?
	Yeah, Quad Cities.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Look at this guy.
	I love the Midwest.
	Downville.
	I've been to Field of Dreams, man.
	I've been to where the plane crashed, where Richie Vallins died and the big bopper.
	I love that.
	Yeah.
	I can't remember the town name, but anyway.
	Good for you.
	The Midwest is awesome.
	It's just different.
	Yeah.
	It's a lot different than California.
	It's a lot different than here.
	I like it, dude.
	I like some grandmother fucking forcing some cookies in you.
	You're going to eat and you're going to like it.
	Yes, ma'am.
	And the roads, the tar on the roads, would get all hot in the summer and it would bubble.
	Dude, I fucking love that.
	And your bike tire would just get all caked up in it, dude.
	Oh, that's hilarious.
	I love that shit.
	What were we talking about?
	We're talking about you doing wrestling.
	So first of all, you went to Seth Rollins.
	You had a school in Dallas.
	Thank you.
	So they put on a show and I got in the ring right after I got drafted.
	And I did, I got to pull a Stone Cold Stunner on somebody.
	That was exhilarating.
	There were like, I want to say, there's between 40 to 60 people in this little arena.
	I mean, and it was like, it was like, literally it just, it was a building that didn't have like seating in it.
	So it was like just an open space, like a rec center.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Like a rec center.
	Oh, yeah.
	And there's literally like 40 people in there, maybe.
	And the pop, everybody standing up and cheering.
	Like that was one of the most exhilarating feelings I've ever had in my life.
	So like literally from that moment, I was like, I get why people wrestle.
	It is exhilarating.
	When you get the crowd to go, oh my gosh.
	Literally, it's so much fun.
	And so, yeah, like I can't wait till I have the opportunity to get thrown through a table or throw someone through a table.
	I can't wait.
	It's going to be amazing.
	Yeah, that'd be really, really interesting.
	Do you think, who from the NFL would, if you had to do tag teaming, if you had to have a tag team partner from the NFL, who would you pull in?
	No, like from like an athlete standpoint, like just football player, I'd pick Trent Williams because he could, he's one of the, yeah, he's incredible.
	Bring him up and see if you can get him topless or whatever, just because we want to see who he is.
	Look up Trent Williams' back tattoo.
	His nickname's a Silverback.
	Oh, really?
	He's literally a gorilla.
	Oh, dang.
	Yeah, he's one of the five guys on my team that could kill me with a punch.
	Wow.
	Oh, yeah, there it is.
	Yeah, I mean, he's like fully tatted now up top.
	Oh, that's him.
	He's big.
	Yeah, that's young Trent Williams right there.
	He's a stud.
	But I would pick him.
	Now, if I was going to pick someone who I think would be a good WWE character, like be a really good WWE wrestler, I think, I mean, Travis Kelsey, like we'd have a pretty fun tight end duo right there.
	Yeah, the tightest ends, y'all could be called.
	Ends that are tight.
	I don't know.
	Tightest ends.
	I mean, I think you'll get a new type of fan in the arena.
	You're not wrong.
	I mean, that's fine.
	Was that fan you?
	I mean, no, sir.
	Oh, okay.
	I love women's, but I think that there is a, there's, I think, yeah, you could get a hold of me.
	In my current profession, I play in tights as it is.
	That's a good point, huh?
	Yeah, I'm used to it.
	But no, like, there are some great characters in the NFL who I think could make easy transitions over.
	I mean, you saw Gronk did it.
	Like, he was at WrestleMania several years ago.
	But did he want it, though?
	Gronk, I feel like gets, he like, he gets put in all like everything.
	You know, he's selling shave lotion.
	He's selling damn parkers or whatever.
	I saw him on a, somebody had him in a, somebody was doing animals, selling puppies or whatever, rescue animals or something.
	So I think, you know, he's almost does so many things.
	He does do a lot.
	And I was like, did he want it though?
	Like, I could see you maybe becoming a member in it.
	Do you feel like you would just do it as a fun thing or do you feel like it could be something you would actually?
	I think I would have really enjoyed doing that.
	Right.
	Now, like, I will say, like, after meetings, like, I've got an awesome arp too.
	WWE is a fantastic company, like how they organize and run their stuff.
	Like, I've got, I've gotten able to go, I've been able to go to like three WrestleManias.
	Oh, wow.
	And this, literally, this last one, like the way that it's ran, picked us up, picked me and my dad and one of my buddies up and my wife.
	We got to go backstage.
	I got to hang out with Undertaker, Stone Cold Steve Austin.
	I got to meet all these like people that I'm a huge fan of.
	And then also wrestlers are like when they're behind the scenes, like they're just, they're normal.
	Like I'm an NFL football player and people see me like, oh my gosh, some like kids are like, oh my gosh, it's George Kittle.
	Like that's how I was a kid.
	Like NFL players are kind of superheroes.
	That's how kind of I am with wrestlers.
	I'm like, it's so cool.
	But as soon as you get them off the stage, they're just normal people like the rest of us.
	So just like, just have a conversation with them.
	They're all so cool.
	Like multiple guys are just hanging out with my dad, talking to him about random stuff.
	And like being able to have that access is so much fun.
	And so like, that's part of the reason that makes me really want to, you know, try it.
	And I think I would enjoy it.
	But I was sorry, I was going to say is like their schedule, like they're on the road 320, 40 days away.
	They don't get enough credit for their schedule.
	Oh my gosh.
	Like if they're doing the, because you see everyone, you see Monday Night Raw, you see, I think AEW is on Wednesdays.
	And then you have Friday Night SmackDown.
	And then you have, if there's a pay-per-view, it's on Saturdays or Sundays.
	And then you don't even count the ones that aren't on TV.
	There's like two non-televised shows a week.
	Yeah, there's like AEW.
	There's a couple of other ones.
	But like, no, WWE puts them on.
	They'll do like, they'll go like the Dubuque Iowa and it won't be on TV, but it'll be in that air, whatever arena that is.
	Oh, they're just selling tickets.
	And they're just selling tickets to put on the show.
	So it's for local shows.
	And so it's a much smaller production than like the live TV ones.
	But I've gone to a couple of those and they're still really fun.
	But it's just like this, they're in the ring.
	Like I perform once a week.
	They're in the ring.
	And yes, there's a script to it, but like you can't fake falling off, like getting thrown through a table.
	You can't fake jumping off the top rope to the ground, which is a 10 foot.
	It's like even if you went to Phantom of the Opera, but what if people are beating the fuck out of each other during it?
	Yeah, like, come on.
	Like, it's going to hurt that regardless.
	You can't fake it.
	So like, that's why I've just had, I have appreciation for wrestlers because it is a grind.
	One of my buddies, like, he's been doing it since like he stopped playing football.
	So like, let's just say six years.
	He has driven, like, he lives in Davenport, Iowa, and he's driven probably, I mean, he goes to Maryland to wrestle, Florida to wrestle, California to wrestle, Arizona to wrestle, Nashville to like, and he just drives.
	He doesn't fly.
	Well, that's another thing.
	They make him drive, George.
	They get to a lot of these guys, they get, they land, they go to Avis, they go to the rental.
	It is a, you have to, it is a grind.
	It is on you.
	Yes.
	It's on you to show up and be available to wrestle.
	Like then you have like, and like the superstars in WWE, like they probably, they fly and they do stuff, but like a lot of people large drive match to match, week to week, year to year.
	And not even the superstars.
	Like I'm friends with The Miz, who's a wrestler.
	Yeah, oh, The Miz is great, man.
	Great energy.
	You guys a little bit remind me of each other a little bit, actually.
	I think that's a compliment.
	Yeah, it is a compliment.
	I like The Miz.
	He's good people.
	I love how big of a football fan he is.
	I do appreciate him.
	He is.
	He's a good dude.
	But he would talk about how you had to pay your, I mean, you would, he's like, you get there.
	There's fans that are excited about the airport, but then you just, you have to go get your rental car.
	You have to fucking get in.
	You have to drive two and a half hours.
	Then you have to go run through the script in the ring.
	It's like, I'm like, damn, it's a lot.
	That's a lot.
	And then you have to perform.
	Yeah.
	Think about it.
	Think about like you have to put oil on your body.
	Yo, dude.
	Like you, like us, like, you'd have to wet your hair back and like, so it doesn't get all on your face.
	And then some of those guys are out there performing.
	Like, not every match is like super long, but like, there are guys that go out there and do like the 25-minute matches.
	Like, that's a lot of cardio.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, that's like two or three.
	Like one in orange theory.
	But people are beating the fuck out of each other in it.
	With chairs.
	Dude, it's nuts.
	Just like the time that it, like, the time and then like the physicalness.
	And like, they don't get time to rehab and like do all that stuff.
	They don't have access to all that stuff.
	Like, I have a facility I get to go to every day.
	Yeah.
	They're at the hotel pool.
	They're at the hotel hot tub.
	Hopefully it has a bathtub so I can take a hot bath tonight to warm up my legs.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	You probably go to the, yeah, you go to like the ice machine and you open it up and, you know, half of the Hardy boys are there or whatever.
	You're like, damn, this is crazy.
	Yes, I think it's a tough, it's a really, really tough gig.
	I just think there's a lot of things that are a little bit behind the scenes of a lot of performances that you just see the show and you don't see like a lot of the other stuff that has to go on.
	No.
	Dude, I like, I always enjoy whenever I'm backstage and you can like catch someone like a tag team with the other tag team fake going through the match.
	It's so cool to see that stuff.
	It's just, it's really interesting because I'm like, wow, like there's a lot of intricacies to this.
	And like there's a, cause there's always a build up to the match.
	And then like just for them to know it, because it's not memorized, but like they're out there trusting each other that the guy's going to do what they expect him to do.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	And if you have to memorize something and you're dumb, it's fucking hard.
	Oh my gosh.
	It has to be so difficult.
	Oh, dude, I've was, you know, I wouldn't say I'm, yeah, I'm like kind of, you know, but I've definitely been dumb and had to memorize shit and not done it.
	It just, it couldn't.
	There's like, there are some things that are just hard and it is what it is.
	Dude, remember studying in high school when you'd be like, you close the book?
	It's like, I have no idea.
	I'd study for 90 minutes and have no idea.
	Oh, my gosh, dude.
	That was, yeah, like, I'm like, okay, where I just, there's two hours.
	Okay.
	And now I got to go do the whole thing again because I forgot what I just read.
	Sick.
	Awesome.
	Oh, my God.
	I was big.
	I had to highlight everything and then I'd have to go back and then read the highlights.
	And then sometimes I'd be like, why did I highlight the whole page?
	I might as well not have a fucking highlighter.
	I just read the whole thing again.
	Oh, my God.
	That was the worst.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah, dude.
	You're the only one refilling your highlighter.
	I'd be sitting there and like, the only that wouldn't be highlighted is like the like I skipped out word.
	I was like, well, the other things are pretty important.
	So I guess I don't need a highlighter.
	I'll just read the whole thing again.
	You'd even highlight the picture.
	You could like draw like a highlighter around the picture.
	This and this.
	Oh, flip it.
	Oh, that page too.
	Okay.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Hey, could I snag a water by chance?
	Yeah, for sure.
	Please.
	And thank you.
	We got another one.
	You have to pee or anything?
	Thank you for asking.
	It's very kind of you.
	Oh, I just.
	Well, it creeps me out being around somebody that has a, somebody has a full bladder and they, and they're just standing like to be talking to someone and they're knowing that they're full of pee at the same time.
	Something about that creeps me out.
	Dude, I am mildly like, what's it called?
	What's like if you're going like tight spaces?
	Claustrophobic?
	Claustrophobic.
	Yeah.
	So like airplane bathroom, airplane bathrooms.
	I don't do all in those.
	It is weird in there.
	Dude, it's super tight.
	So like I go five-hour flights without going to the bathroom.
	Wow.
	Constantly.
	But you could probably hold a lot more urine than a regular person.
	Sure.
	But like, I mean, like, there are guys that go two to three times on a flight.
	And like, I'm still hydrated.
	It's not like I'm not drinking water.
	Like, I go through like two of those big Essentia bottles, stuff like that.
	And it's just like, no, I'm just uncomfortable.
	I'll hold it.
	I'm good.
	Why just ride the bag?
	Just ride it.
	And like, there are times like, and look, like, in the last like two years, like, we've like kind of changed the plane that we were on.
	So there's a bigger bathroom.
	So I feel less bad about it.
	But like, it's still like, it's, it's not my favorite thing to do.
	I get, it's weird.
	I don't like small closed spaces.
	Like you, I don't think you could pay me an amount of money to get on a submarine.
	Oh, yeah.
	Can you imagine going down like a thousand feet underwater?
	And if anything happens, you just implode and you die.
	Well, first of all, it seems so dumb.
	Dude, why would you do it?
	Why would you go down there?
	Like, what were they doing down there?
	Like, like 50 years ago, too, like, right?
	Like, 40 years ago, like, what are we doing?
	Like, and like, who saw, like, who built it?
	I was like, this is going to work.
	How many people got into a submarine and went down 500 feet like in the prototypes and it just imploded on them?
	Like, that wasn't the right model.
	We're going to fix a couple of things.
	Like, who's the test of me for that?
	Also, you put like seven guys in a fucking tank, right?
	And if they pop up in another country, they're going to get fucked.
	There's seven of them.
	Yeah, what's going on?
	Oh, that, like, you've been lying to your wife the whole time.
	That's got to be the hardest part.
	Where were you?
	Yeah.
	Underwater?
	Let's just say I'm underwater, man.
	I'm hanging with the boys.
	I don't even want to be honest.
	I'm hanging with the boys, dude.
	But yeah, no, like, so yeah, like, I'm mildly claustrophobic, and it's just like, I don't.
	What about that helmet, though?
	No, it's just, it's for my body.
	Like, I've been in a lot of MRI machines.
	I've just been in football.
	Like, that's just my job.
	Like, I get banged up.
	There's certain things you got to look at.
	I had at the Combine before my rookie year, I had to get like six MRIs in one night.
	It wasn't really fun.
	But one of them was I had to do both my shoulders because I've both my labrums.
	I tore them in high school.
	I never had surgery on them.
	And so like, I've never really had shoulder problems.
	I can't throw a football very well.
	But like the NFL teams wanted to see MRIs of them.
	They wanted to get their own pictures.
	And so they put me in a smaller MRI machine and I had to sit like this.
	And it was an hour and 45 minute MRI because they did both shoulders at once.
	And that was, that was a very difficult time for me.
	Like I was, I took, I sleep in MRIs too.
	For some reason, the noise like knocks me out.
	But I woke up with about 45 minutes left.
	And I like, you know, like, have you ever been in MRI?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes, but like, you know, like you can squeeze the panic button basically.
	It took me a lot to not squeeze that button.
	Like it was, that was, that was one of the most claustrophobics I've ever been.
	It was awful.
	I was in a full sweat.
	There wasn't a fan, so it was hot, full sweat.
	I was like, oh, my, getting out of that was one of the best moments of my life.
	Dude.
	Like an escape room kind of one.
	And it's like $10,000.
	Like, okay, here's one.
	Would you rather drown or get buried alive?
	Hold on, let me think about it for a second.
	All right, let me think about the second one.
	What was the second one?
	Get buried alive or drowned.
	Yeah, I was just letting me think about buried alive.
	You're in a wood box ten feet underground.
	Oh, bro.
	Let me get a little closer.
	No.
	Twelve feet.
	You ever see Kill Bill when she breaks out and climbs out of the hole?
	I don't know if I have or not.
	I don't know which one that is, but there's a scene where she's literally in there and she's like punches the box, breaks through, and she climbs out of a grave.
	The more feet you give me, the scarier it is for some reason.
	Okay, you're not getting out of the box.
	There's nothing you can do.
	You're not getting out.
	But at least just put me at two feet so I feel like I can.
	You're not getting out.
	Oh, you're sick.
	You're not getting out, dude.
	So these are conversations I have with my friends.
	So buried alive, right?
	Yeah.
	So alive, you're going to be in there.
	You're in a coffin, basically.
	Right, but you're going to be able to, first of all, you'll be able to convince yourself, okay, I'm like doing like a cleanse or whatever.
	I'm dieting.
	No, like a guy literally just looks and goes, you're going to go in this box.
	I'm going to put you in the ground.
	Okay.
	And you're not getting out.
	And that's it.
	And there's no chance you're getting out.
	What would you rather do?
	I put me in the water, man.
	You think?
	Well, you just go to sleep.
	You just pass out.
	No, you don't pass out, dude.
	You ever been.
	No, but like, think about it.
	Isn't that like the Navy SEALs training?
	They, like, they drown you and then they resuscitate you?
	No, that's, I think that's like the mob or something.
	No, that's a real thing, dude.
	Look at that.
	That's a real training thing.
	Do that.
	Look it up.
	Navy SEALs drowning one another.
	That's a thing, dude.
	I swear to God.
	Really?
	Now, probably.
	I mean, who knows what the fuck they're doing?
	Well, so like you have to be prepared for anything and then you gotta like, you have to save your teammates' life, shit like that.
	And so, but sorry, but I know what you're saying.
	Yeah, it's like, yeah.
	And so like, I would rather, I think, just go underwater and pass out from not being able to breathe because it's loss of oxygen.
	But that's not.
	But then you could be alive.
	You could be in that box for 24 hours.
	20?
	What do you mean?
	No, like days.
	Think about it.
	You can be in there for days.
	You're not going to be in that box for days, dude.
	You're not going to be in the, yeah.
	Wouldn't you, oh, doesn't that sound terrible?
	I don't know.
	How big is it?
	How little is the box?
	Like, you have like two inches on each side.
	Oh, God.
	I thought you meant like one of those Aaron Rodgers drug boxes that he was in.
	What do you think he did in there?
	Oh, I'm sure.
	I don't know if he did like ayahuasca.
	Like being in that dark hole?
	Well, I think it was like a nice enough.
	I think the room was like about this.
	It was probably about 300 square feet.
	So I think it was.
	Like, no, like, oh, I don't know, man.
	In the dark.
	That's not for me.
	Like, that, I under, like, I, I don't understand it.
	Like, I appreciate him for like, you know, good for you for wanting to try that.
	I don't know if I will ever do that, but it's okay.
	It was something.
	Yeah.
	I think it was about like a sight deprivate or like just like what would happen if you don't if you're not without the stimulus, you know?
	Yeah, for sure.
	And like there's no phone.
	There's no communication with anybody else.
	Like you're literally alone with your thoughts.
	You're alone with your thoughts, which is see what your thoughts are.
	Yeah, it's just like, cool, for him, like, I don't know how old Aaron is, but he's been in the league for a long time.
	He's going to be in the Hall of Fame, right?
	So it's just like, he has a Super Bowl.
	He has what, I think he has multiple MVPs.
	Like he's a Hall of Famer.
	So like, do you want to continue to play football?
	He doesn't like, I mean, I like, I doesn't have to.
	He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to.
	So it's like, do you, do I still want to do this?
	Like, do I still love the game that I, you know, that I grew up playing?
	And so, and, and I don't know if that's what his reasoning was, but like, I think that's what it would be.
	And so like, if that's what you want to do to like to get along with your thoughts, I get that.
	I'm not ready for that.
	Like, I don't need that in my life right now.
	But hey, maybe when I'm 35, like, maybe that's it.
	Maybe that's something you want to do.
	So like, I'm not going to judge him for it.
	It's wild.
	And now I know about it.
	I'm like, well, I have that in my back pocket if I ever just want to disappear for four days.
	And it's brave of him kind of in a way to do it because a lot of guys are afraid to, I think, you know, I know he's friends with Aubrey Marcus and they, Aubrey's big into like psychedelic medicines and like just like templates of therapy and stuff like that, right?
	Huge into it.
	Just different types of therapy.
	Oh, even all types of stuff.
	Like, like muscle, like, like, even like being under the influence of certain things and then like doing certain things to your muscles to release like memories.
	Like, oh, and this is like all.
	That's cool.
	I'm paraphrasing, but Aubrey's like deep into that world, right?
	I get that.
	And I think a lot of guys would be, especially at Aaron's level of popularity.
	He's famous, famous.
	Right.
	Would be embarrassed to, not embarrassed, but would probably feel uncomfortable talking about that kind of thing.
	Yeah, especially he brought, I mean, he brought it up and he talked about it like on the Pat McAfee show, too.
	The boys love them.
	But like they, like, just to bring that up and like, and it's Aaron Rodgers, like everything that he says on to the media, like everybody.
	That's all they got to say.
	Everybody, it's a clip.
	Like any, if he says anything out of, like, out of line or kind of controversial, like that's a headline on hundreds of newspapers or like online online newspapers.
	So it's just like for him to go out and say that and like that was the only thing anyone talked about for the next three days.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was crazy.
	All over social media, like the meme pages everyone making fun of him for.
	But like for him to go out there and talk about it, like I didn't even know that was a thing.
	And I'm kind of, that's cool.
	Like I, again, not for me right now, but in the future, who knows?
	Who knows?
	Like, I might want to do that someday.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They have all types of things like that.
	Like, there's like a camp you can go to where no one talks for like a week.
	And then I think you can do like.
	But you still interact with people.
	Yeah, you still interact.
	And I think you can do two weeks.
	So it's like charades, I guess.
	Whoa.
	So like, if you know sign language, is that cheating?
	Oh, I don't know.
	But you'd have to bring someone that also knows it.
	Otherwise, you'd have to.
	Otherwise, people would just like you're into some fucking, you're like, just like in a bunch of gangs.
	Just throwing stuff.
	That's funny, dude.
	But that's cool.
	You want to go to one?
	Oh, dude, I would go.
	I bet it would be something really cool to do probably with a friend or your wife or something.
	That'd be interesting.
	Just be interesting.
	Like, hey, let's just go have this weird experience.
	It's going to be fun.
	We're going to be around each other, but we can't talk for a whole week.
	It's going to be really weird.
	Yeah, it'd be really, really weird.
	You know, I don't know if my wife would like that too much, but I think like I would bring like one of my buddies on that.
	I think I would try to make him talk and try to make him laugh.
	That would be you.
	Yeah, but you can't be that weird who's fucking tickling some dude in the distance all the time.
	I mean, you can if you want, man.
	That's your call.
	It's on you, man.
	People are just staying away from you the whole time.
	You're just like, trying to get people to squeal.
	Oh my God.
	Like, who's this fucking silence anarchist over here?
	But Aaron Rodgers is also interesting.
	He's not married.
	No.
	So it's kind of, how old is Aaron Rodgers?
	I'm going to guess 36. Okay.
	So he's getting to be at a point in his life.
	It kind of seemed like he's just, it seemed like he's definitely kind of a searcher kind of dude, you know?
	Yeah, I think, I think, look, like 39. Yeah, he's 39 years old.
	Well, like, I think at his point in his, I mean, again, like, I have no idea, but like, at some point, football is not the only thing in my life, right?
	Like, I'm not just a football player.
	Like, there's more sides of me than that.
	And I think he's been playing football since he was probably five, seven years old for the last 30 years.
	I bet you he wants to find out, like, who else, like, what other parts of me, like, what else do I love as much as football?
	It's a good point, man.
	I think that that's, I think that probably happens for a lot of guys who get stuck into one or who start so young in something.
	Because then you're like, at some points, you're like, as a, did I get put into this?
	Did I really, obviously I've loved this at certain points and it's been a great, big part of my life.
	But are there other things, yeah, that I want to do that I don't even, I'm so been so stuck in this vein that I don't even know what they are.
	Like you just, you missed it.
	You missed that window.
	And like, granted, like, I don't know if he would, like, I wouldn't trade my opportunity.
	Like, I love playing football.
	Like, who knows?
	Like, there could be something else that, like, I might have loved to do it if I just would have given it a shot.
	Like, maybe I loved lacrosse.
	Maybe if I like, yeah, I mean, like, what if I did that?
	Or like, what if I wanted this?
	You could be the Britney Griner of fucking lacrosse, I think, dude.
	You'd have been a fucking gangster.
	That's a fucking compliment.
	Dude, you would have been insane in lacrosse, dude.
	Yeah, but it wasn't offered where I lived.
	And so, like, who knows?
	Like, I could have enjoyed that.
	Like, I don't know.
	So, like, maybe he's like, at some point, you want to figure out what else you love.
	You know, I think that a lot about like some of my friends that are athletes that are black guys, actually.
	Sometimes I think, because a lot of young black men, they didn't have any other opportunities except for athletics.
	That's it.
	So I start to wonder sometimes if that's even a bigger thing in their sometimes community or that you'll start to see like, because they didn't have any other choice.
	No.
	Or there weren't as many options to get.
	Not as many outlets.
	Right.
	Not as many outlets.
	And less opportunities too.
	So it's like, damn, I wonder how many of those guys start to feel like, man, is this something that I even wanted to, even not wanted to do?
	Was it more like, do I love the game or is it like more of a thing?
	That was the only choice I had.
	That was my, like, that's what I had to do.
	It's kind of interesting.
	It is interesting.
	I think, I think, well, one, like football is really hard if you don't love it.
	Like, it's really, because like what you put your body through, what you put like the stress levels through, like we put our, like, I know every, like our professions, like when you're out there, you know, for like to perform and like, that's how like people watch you and stuff like that.
	It's like, there's a stress that comes out because you could make one bad play and like, that's the only thing everybody on Twitter is yelling at you for and telling you that you're a piece of shit.
	And so like there's a, there's a mental stress to it.
	There's a physical stress to it.
	Time away from your family.
	Like I just said, like I, I have my Nashville is my home.
	I haven't, this is my second day back since July 24th.
	That's so wow.
	Yeah.
	So it's, it's crazy.
	And I love it here.
	Like I love Nashville.
	I love being a part of this city.
	Um, and I live in San Jose, California for seven months out of the year.
	So it's just, it's wild because it's just, yeah, it just, it blows me away.
	Yeah, you know, even, yeah, I mean, I can relate to a lot of that.
	I love being here and I feel like I kind of get to know it in increments because I'm always going to be gone.
	It's very hard for me to start a relationship with someone that I know I'm going to be able to upkeep.
	You know, it's like I've already kind of written off that I might even be able to, you know, I would like to have a spouse, you know.
	And so it's like, I think maybe there's a possibility in the next year and a half, I'll meet somebody, but I know for the next year and a half, I'm probably going to be touring a lot.
	And so it's like, I haven't written it off, but it's like, I know it's going to limit my chances for sure.
	If I'm in the same place, being able to like have a commitment that I'm there with all the time, you know?
	Yeah, no, I do get that.
	And it's also, but like, you have to be kind of selfish because this is your window of opportunity, right?
	Like if it's, it's out there for you.
	And like, you could say no, but like, will that opportunity ever come again?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So like, might as well take advantage of it.
	And like, you know, it's that you don't, like, not everybody has to do that.
	And like, it's, it's a life choice if you want to do that and you're making sacrifices, but it's like, I mean, dude, like, it's, if you like, if you enjoy doing it, go do it.
	And like, you can pause for a year and a half.
	Like, you're still, like, you're still going to be here.
	It's scary, though, to do it.
	So if I said, George Kittle, won't you take a year and a half off, right?
	Of football or off of like football.
	Oh, no, that.
	No, that's what.
	I was talking about dating, taking a year and a half off of dating.
	Oh, right, right.
	I see what you're saying.
	I thought you meant to get a year and a half off of doing that.
	No, don't do that.
	Don't do that.
	Like, I'm saying.
	I see that's the idea.
	Take advantage of your opportunity, dog.
	It's right there.
	Go do it.
	You're doing a great job.
	So just keep doing it.
	Oh, thanks, man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but it's interesting.
	It's like, yeah, you have to look at that and kind of figure that out.
	I have to pee real fast.
	Go for it, dude.
	All right.
	I'll be right back.
	What do you...
	I'm going to drink it.
	What is it?
	It's just Cel.
	It's like has a little bit of caffeine in it.
	So it's just called Celsius.
	I like it.
	My friend Dustin Poirier drinks it.
	Oh, really?
	That's how I learned about it.
	Do you watch any UFC?
	A little bit.
	I'm involved with PFL, the Professional Fighters League.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Got into that a little bit.
	And they do what?
	Fighting?
	It's the same thing?
	Yeah, it's the same thing.
	It's kind of a tournament style, though.
	So if you win the first round, you just move on the second round.
	That's how they decide who wins the belt.
	Oh, wow.
	It's kind of cool.
	It's an ESPN Plus, I think.
	Yeah, PSPN Plus.
	That seems a lot more almost realistic in what the value of the belt is.
	Yeah, that's what it's cool.
	And I'm not like, I'm not huge into the UFC stuff.
	I'll watch the big fights.
	I enjoy watching that.
	I don't follow it religiously like a lot of people do, but I have the utmost respect for those people because it's insane.
	Oh, it's crazy.
	Cue, like, they, like, when they go into the ring, like, when they flip the switch, there's no like, there's no buffer.
	It's like, I'm trying to kill this person.
	Like in football, like, it's, it's a little bit like you have that mindset to an extent, but like, they're actually in there until someone pulls them off of them.
	It's crazy to me.
	Yeah.
	That's wild.
	Yeah, there's, it's a different level of violence that you're willing to do.
	We have a friend Drake.
	You know, Drake.
	Kulik?
	Yeah.
	I just Did his podcast?
	You did?
	Yeah, washed up walk-on.
	Oh, it's so cool.
	400th episode, man.
	I was pretty impressed.
	Congratulations, dude.
	I love Drake.
	He's such great energy, dude.
	Dude, he is, bro.
	There's something of, yeah, he's like, he reminds me of like, he reminds me of mankind a little bit.
	For sure, dude.
	He's a psycho.
	Well, so here's a fun Drake story.
	My senior day in college, he played fullback with me in Iowa.
	That's how I know him.
	Oh, that's how you guys know each other.
	Yeah, and so also then, like, I was number 46. He was number 45. And so our lockers were next to each other for like three or four years.
	That's how they do it by numbers?
	When they got a new locker room, our old locker room, it was like you would go, it was like one through 50. And then like every other number was 51 through 99. Okay.
	And so like it'd be one and then it'd be 51, 252.
	Oh, so probably people, some people would quit because of that.
	It's confusing.
	It was weird.
	Your lockers, but like then the new one, it was literally like one started here and it just kind of went around.
	And so, yeah, so 45, 46 were next year.
	So we became friends.
	And then this past, oh, sorry, my senior day, so my fifth year senior playing in Nebraska and we beat the shit out of him.
	Oh, because of Will Compton.
	Oh, no.
	So he beat Iowa once.
	He always talks about that or something like that.
	I don't know.
	He's always talking about something, dude.
	He always talks about something.
	It is what it is.
	But he looks like a premature baby on fucking pre-workout.
	Oh, Will.
	That's funny.
	Well, he always looks a little premature.
	Like his eyes don't open all the way or something.
	You know what I'm saying, dude?
	That's really funny, dude.
	Wow, Will, that's tough for you, dog.
	You went to Nebraska and you look like that.
	That's super tough.
	Sorry, but Drake.
	I mean, I didn't say any of that.
	No, you didn't.
	No, what are you talking about?
	I have no idea.
	Who said that?
	Yeah.
	But sorry, but Drake, my very first play, we're running an inside zone.
	He's at fullback and I'm blocking somebody and I just hear a snap and I turn around and Drake's leg is twisted.
	He broke.
	Did he hit himself?
	No, he like he, he hits, he hit somebody and then someone landed on it and just snapped in half.
	First play.
	He's nuts.
	Oh, he's a psycho and it's awesome.
	But there's a cool, we have a cool photo where it's like he's getting carted off and he's basically like telling us all to beat the shit out of him.
	It was pretty awesome.
	Pull it up.
	See if he can just pull up Drake Kulick.
	Yeah, I know Drake Kulick or we're in it together.
	It's a fun photo.
	But I'll say like he spent this entire last offseason.
	He moved to Nashville to train with me.
	So every day.
	Yeah, because he invited me out a couple times to your barn out there.
	Oh, yeah.
	So he came out.
	Yeah, that's when he broke his leg.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, it's super aggressive.
	I've never seen him without anything.
	There's us three right down there in the middle.
	Left.
	Down.
	Yeah, it's me.
	46. Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	There's one.
	He's older there somehow.
	Yeah, well, I don't.
	And 52, dude, I could have been 52. I'm just saying.
	I'm just saying.
	Thick boy out of Iowa.
	That's off the line right there, boo.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's all fucking.
	Yeah, well, that was us hanging off.
	I gophers.
	Yeah, look at that boy.
	Yeah, so he came down.
	He trained with me.
	We did four days a week.
	He was fantastic.
	And it was always true.
	He's a great dude to have around too, because he's very aware of his surroundings.
	And also being around someone that knows like jiu-jitsu and how to fight, it's really, I enjoy that having someone that he could just flip a switch at any moment.
	Like if someone tried to fuck with me, he would 100% have my back at any moment.
	I appreciate people like that.
	And it could be a big dude too.
	Like that value of knowing that skill.
	And you're friends with you.
	But also, and it changes the game of like, if it's a big dude versus a little dude.
	Sure.
	That game's changed.
	Dude, yeah, you're not wrong.
	I will say, like, it was fun.
	We went to in Scottsville for the Super Bowl because that's where he lives now.
	I had tickets to the Drake concert up there.
	And so we go to it and on our way out, because it's crazy, those concerts.
	They pack like 20,000 people into a place that fits 5,000.
	And it's crazy.
	But there's like TMZ and all this paparazzi outside waiting for people.
	And like two guys kind of put a camera in my face and he just kind of goes up and throws an elbow into a rib cage and the dude just kind of drops, clears a path for me.
	I get into a car and he just hopped right behind me.
	I was like, you good?
	He's like, what are you talking about?
	Not to throw you under the bus, Drake, but that was awesome.
	It was so sick.
	So don't get sued, please.
	No, he would help me when I would go to the Nashville MMA.
	He would help me all the time and just like always like, just a good teacher.
	But yeah, he has a great energy, man.
	And he's still fighting.
	He's, he's training like full time.
	Yeah, he sends me clips all the time.
	I love it.
	And no, like, what's awesome is like he, his, so like, yeah, I keep talking about like the switch that you have to flip.
	His switch, like his football switch is still flipped on and it just kind of always.
	So he just kind of has this like, this anger and like this violence of energy.
	And I like, I really, because not everybody's, there's not a lot of people like that.
	And so being around someone that has that, kind of that energy to them, that's just violence, I really appreciate that.
	And he's a great dude.
	He's super kind and he's wonderful.
	But like, like, there's not a lot of people that are triggered like that or like wired like that.
	And I like those people.
	Yeah.
	Do you?
	I do.
	You like the violence?
	I like people that are just, I like people that are wired differently.
	Just high energy?
	Not even high energy, but he's just like controlled anger.
	And he's just kind of like ready to go at any moment.
	And I appreciate people like that because it's hard to be like that all the time.
	It wears on you.
	Oh, I could imagine it's hard to just fucking have all the fire inside of you, but.
	And it's just like burning it all the time.
	Right.
	But people don't want any fire outside.
	So you got to fucking just walk around like a furnace, dude.
	I know.
	It's like you either have to put it out or keep it super low.
	But like his is like at a medium anger all the time.
	And I really, I like that.
	That's interesting.
	That's a great way to describe him.
	Yeah, he's a special dude, man.
	What else was I going to ask you about?
	Oh, what was it like when you were a kid?
	Did you like have it?
	Did you have like crazy Halloween costumes and stuff?
	Like, did you dress up like a fucking would you do?
	So it's a fun fact.
	So I said my mom had nine sisters.
	She's one of 10 girls.
	Her dad was Halloween was his birthday.
	And so, and it was like.
	The dad that had nine kids?
	Ten daughters.
	Ten daughters.
	Yeah.
	His birthday was Halloween.
	His daughters were haunted.
	That's really funny.
	That's really funny.
	Wow, that's a good one.
	I'm going to tell my mom that one.
	I don't know if that's a good one.
	I don't know if you're saying anything to your mother.
	No, that's really funny.
	That's awesome.
	And we had like, I would say, like, let's just say like six of the daughters all lived like within an hour or so.
	So, and they all had kids.
	And so like, we'd have Halloween parties and like, we'd have like 30 to 40 people show up for Halloween and like 25 of us are kids.
	And so we would just basically go through these small Iowa towns with like all these like just 25 deep.
	And it was really fun.
	But Batman was a good, that was one of my top characters to be.
	I really liked the Grim Reaper.
	Like I had the nylon mask you'd pull on your face and I just walk out with a scythe, wouldn't say anything.
	I was kind of creepy.
	I really enjoyed that one.
	The Grim Reaper.
	Yeah, he doesn't get people don't dress up like the Grim Reaper very often.
	No, not anymore.
	No.
	I wouldn't, I don't think I've ever seen anybody be the Grim Reaper.
	That was like my number one costume from like five to nine, probably.
	Wow.
	Love the Grim Reaper.
	Really?
	Until I grew out of it, maybe, maybe like four to seven, but like.
	But that's just interesting.
	I don't know any.
	I've never heard anybody say they were the Grim Reaper.
	Dude, you just had a, you had like a skull for a face.
	You wore a cool robe and you just got to carry a big scythe.
	Yeah.
	I would hit my cousins with it all the time.
	Yeah, fuck.
	Aren't you not?
	We have that many fucking cousins.
	If you lose a few, you lose a few.
	You know, if someone falls behind, they fall behind.
	The pack's still deep, man.
	That's great.
	It's a wolf pack, man.
	You got to survive.
	That's wild, bro.
	That's awesome.
	What was your costume?
	My costume, let me think.
	Oh, we got a bunch.
	My dad was like a senior citizen, so he would always pick us up shit at the last minute.
	So we had me and my brother were both raggedy and one year.
	That's awesome.
	Oh, it's horrible, dude.
	And we're so pissed.
	We're in the fucking yard.
	Two raggedy anns beating the shit out of each other.
	Two young male children dressed in fucking drag, dressed in Halloween, drag beating the shit out of each other.
	Just fine.
	It was always a nightmare, dude.
	Yeah.
	That's awesome.
	Because my mom would have to work.
	So he was in charge of getting us ready for Halloweens and stuff like that.
	And it was just fucking horrible.
	One time we wanted face paint.
	We wanted like white face paint and to do to do like skeletons or whatever, you know, be skeletons.
	And my dad forgot it or whatever.
	And so I remember he poured us like a little bowl of like, I want to say, you know, it was like, he poured us like a little bowl of like half and half cream or whatever.
	So I remember me and my brother like trying to get this shit.
	And he's like, no, you're not using enough.
	And I remember fucking just like, then I remember we go outside and like all the neighborhood cats are fucking coming over.
	Like just, just, everything was just so retarded.
	It was just so ridiculous.
	Oh, dude.
	So it was like, it was always like this weird Halloween.
	And then.
	Halloween's a crazy concept anyways.
	It is kind of crazy.
	It's good, though.
	I love it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, let like be weird.
	Oh, Halloween was a yeah, Halloween was good.
	Um, what else?
	Oh, what about uh what about like so with that big of a family, did you guys do like big family events and stuff?
	Did you guys get pretty crazy?
	Every year, it was literally up until um, what was that?
	Summer, like summer 2019, I think it was.
	We did, uh, we had the Krager family reunion.
	My mom's maiden name is Krager, K-R-I-E-G-E-R.
	And so they, uh, we'd have a family reunion and we used to have it like in Iowa at like this kind of, not, it was like, I can't remember what it was called, but it was like this small town and it's like out in the woods was like this, um, this like big building that it was like a little hotel, I guess, but they, they had like 80 rooms.
	And so like each family would get a room and we'd literally, we'd like, I think we had almost the entire family there.
	Like we had like 12 people there one time and like we do whiffleball tournaments and then like kind of and I usually did when I was a kid, like, but you'd have, I mean, I'd say like 80 of the people, 80 out of the 120, 80 out of the 110 would play and you'd have these huge whiffleball tournaments.
	We do kickball, a lot of card games, but like that was the most fun because I went to those when I was like between the ages of like seven and 14. Oh, yeah.
	Oh, dude.
	So I was just out there having the time of my life playing in the woods, getting food.
	And then you just get hanging out with all your best friends all the time.
	And like, I was close to my cousins too.
	Cause like I said, we all lived in Iowa.
	So we were all like, I've lived with some of my cousins before, like throughout my life.
	So it's like, we were all really good friends.
	And so like those family unions were really fun.
	Dude, that's such a, that's so amazing.
	Who gets to have an experience like that?
	Not very many people.
	And that many family members.
	That close too.
	And like people, like we had family that lived in Indiana, family that lived in Colorado and everybody would always come back from it.
	But like literally, yeah, I'd say like from age like nine to probably 16, like we had like a seven-year window there where like over 100 people would show up every time.
	Wow.
	It was pretty cool.
	Dude, that's awesome.
	It was really fun.
	Yeah, that's just so cool.
	That's one thing that's neat, I think, about a lot of a lot of the Midwest.
	There were some big families, you know, especially a lot of church families.
	You'd see a lot of church families and they'd roll up.
	They'd always have that church van, you know, when they got down.
	One of my cousins has one of those because he is like, I think they have, what do they have?
	I want to say like 12, 13 kids now?
	Yeah.
	You roll up with the with the white van.
	It has windows.
	So thank goodness.
	Yeah, thank you, dude.
	Bro, if your family rolls up and no windows door opens, 20 kids get out.
	That's a kidnapper.
	So thankfully they got windows on their car.
	Yeah, no women get out, bro.
	Yeah, that is definitely.
	Well, it's just like, oh my gosh, they have so many kids.
	And it's like, hey, I love that.
	They're a fantastic family.
	It's fun.
	But it's just like, that's a lot of, that's a lot of people.
	That's a lot.
	Do you guys, will you think you guys have a big family?
	Do you have thoughts about that or not?
	Yeah, I mean, I'd say like, my wife has one brother.
	I have one sister, but like, we both want to have, I would like three to four kids.
	That's good.
	Yeah, that's why that's, that'd be a dream.
	Yeah.
	It'd be really fun.
	Yeah, I think it'd be nice, especially if you can, I think these days, especially too, if you can afford to have them, that's probably a big part of it.
	And then you're like my wife, she's six foot tall and she's seen her.
	She played basketball at Iowa.
	So she's an athlete.
	So like, I think my kids will be good for college.
	Actually, I know they will be.
	They're going to be ballers.
	Dude, your kids could go to college.
	Yeah.
	So like year two.
	But for sure, like NIL, dear year two.
	I mean, two years old.
	Two years old.
	They got a Charmin deal.
	Age two.
	That'd be awesome.
	Yeah, but yeah, no, I would prefer a bigger family because this is what I was thinking about this too.
	Cause like I said, so she's in a family of four.
	I'm in a family of four.
	If me and her have four kids and we're a family of six, neither one of us has ever interacted.
	Like we've had friends that have families like that, but like I've never been responsible in a family of four kids.
	And so like, that'll be a whole new interaction for me.
	Like I've never been like, I've never, I never had a brother.
	So like, I know like I had cousins that are brothers.
	I have friends that are like brothers to me, but like I never had an actual brother.
	So like if I have two sons or can you imagine three sons, like what those interaction could be like, I've never experienced that before.
	So, like, it'll be a completely new experience for me, too, which is, I think that's really cool.
	Yeah, dude.
	That'd be, oh, I think it'd be fun.
	The family dynamic's totally different than what I was used to.
	Oh, yeah, to see what that's like.
	Yeah, like, I think that's just going to be really interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Having a brother is pretty cool, man.
	I know, right?
	Like, I'm so thankful I had a sister.
	Like, she, like, she's taught, she taught me a bunch.
	I definitely, like, I didn't fight my sister.
	She beat the shit out of me sometimes.
	That was about it.
	But, like, I didn't really have an opportunity to fight her because she was, she was like 5'10 at the age of 10, just whooped up on me.
	Wow, was she?
	Dude, she was a, like, she was a stallion back in the day.
	Like, like, when she played high school basketball, like, she could fight me and beat me up pretty easily.
	Damn.
	So, like, I was like, yeah, what do you need, Emma?
	I want to see some of that footage, I think.
	If she did an OnlyFans, it's just that.
	You want to see my 17-year-old sister's highlights?
	I'd watch a 17-year-old girl beat up George Kittle.
	Yeah, for $9 a month.
	Yeah.
	Young George Kittle?
	Yeah, sure.
	You know what?
	Honestly, it's not that weird when you say it like that.
	Yeah, young George Kittle.
	I'm not saying like, yeah, I don't need ready to relimp any lingerie.
	I'm just saying I just.
	I'll send you a video of my sisters beating the shit out of me in a couple of weeks by the time I see her.
	When you look at, how long does it take you to forget about the season and start to think about the next one?
	How long does that kind of pain take?
	I can only imagine, especially if you're a very competitive person.
	Yeah.
	You have such a great team.
	What is the, how long does that take?
	How long does that take?
	Honestly, it's like kind of like waves, dude, in the ocean.
	Like right afterwards, like it hits you a lot.
	And then like the farther away you get from it, the waves don't hit as often.
	And so you just kind of like, it kind of goes away.
	But like, it's still like, I lost the Super Bowl.
	It still sucks.
	Like, I don't like, it sucks.
	Like, I wish I would have won it.
	It would have been really fun.
	Like, that's a dream.
	Like I said.
	And when you get close, we've lost two NFC championships games back to back.
	Like, it sucks.
	But like, the great thing is, is I made it out.
	Like, I just try to take it as positive as I can.
	I made it out healthy.
	I can train right away again.
	We still have a very talented team.
	And so like, yes, it sucked, but hey, I'm still very confident that we have an opportunity to win a Super Bowl.
	So yeah, it really, it sucks, but like you get on with it.
	And like there are other parts of your life that, you know, like kind of pick you up.
	And like, I have a great support system, whether it's my family or my wife.
	Like, I have a great support system.
	I have great friends.
	I have a lot of friends who like deal with the same stuff.
	And so it's just like, I have a lot of football friends who like, so like, it's not a support group, but it's just like you have people that go through similar stuff.
	So like, you're not alone in it.
	That's the one benefit of football.
	Like at the end of the year, there's only one team that wins.
	So 31 other teams are all dealing with some of the same shit.
	Yes, you can call almost anybody.
	Literally.
	It's really hard to win a Super Bowl.
	So like, yeah, if you want to talk about it or stuff like that now, I don't think you really need to talk about it.
	It's just kind of like, you just got to get, it just takes a couple weeks, really.
	Like the first two to three weeks afterwards really suck.
	But like now that I'm back in Nashville and like I said, I'm healthy and I can train, it goes away pretty quick after that.
	Like the perspective probably starts to switch to the future a little bit.
	And also, but like, if, and like, so my first two years, our team wasn't very good.
	And so like my, I didn't go to the playoffs.
	So like when your season ends in like December, it's, you're kind of like, all right, well, yeah, it kind of we suck this whole year.
	But like you're also like, when you know you're not in the playoffs, it's you, you're, you're, like, you're playing for yourself and you've got to put yourself out there.
	And like, you want to like, you got to put good stuff on tape.
	Like you can't just give up.
	But like, there are, like, there's a.
	The energy changes.
	The energy changes and it's, it's harder to get.
	You're not like eating during the middle of the game and shit.
	No, not like that.
	But no, I'm saying like just week to week.
	So like if you're like an 0-9 team, like my rookie year, we started 0-9.
	Oh, yeah.
	Not very fun.
	But like, and I was just, and I was learning, right?
	Are you even a team?
	What do you even do?
	It was brutal, man.
	It was really fun, though, but it was brutal.
	We had like 25 rookies on the active roster.
	It was dial.
	It was wild.
	But it was really fun.
	But like, once the season ends, because like you kind of like, all right, we're not going to make the playoffs like three weeks before like your wife or like you're like you're planning a vacation.
	So you're like, then you have something else to look forward to.
	It's just, it's different than going in the playoffs and like, hey, we have a week.
	Like, hey, I have an opportunity.
	Like we went the whole season.
	We're one of the, what, seven teams that make the playoffs on my side of the conference.
	Like we have a shot to win and then it gets taken out from me.
	And then you're like, damn.
	But like, if you know you're not going to be, like, it's, it's just, it's two different things.
	And I've experienced both.
	And I think it's like, I'd rather win a bunch of games and then lose a heartbreaker.
	Honestly, like winning 12 to 13 games is a lot more fun than losing 10 straight.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So like I'd rather do that.
	Like, and yes, but does it suck to lose at the end?
	For sure, it sucks a lot.
	But hey, it's life.
	It is what it is.
	I'm just going to continue to grind and continue to be a good football player.
	Did you think when Brock Purdy came in what it would be like?
	And there's a B in here.
	be.
	It's just a safe animal.
	Oh, yeah, it's probably.
	If I hit it, will PETA get mad at me?
	I don't think so.
	I don't even know who that is.
	You know what?
	That honestly doesn't surprise me.
	Yeah.
	I'm so distracted by this.
	Oh, you got it, huh?
	I'm going to put that outside.
	Okay.
	I was laughing.
	It's not bad.
	Somebody said Travis Kelsey can do that with a falcon.
	Just saying, this is what I've heard.
	Can you imagine somebody's catching falcons?
	Did you see the clip on Instagram of the dude that hunts with a falcon?
	Bro, I've been falcon hunting before.
	You see something, you just go, wow!
	And it's like a superpower, dude.
	Oh, I haven't seen it.
	I don't know if I've seen that.
	Dude, these guys are driving with like a hawk or a falcon, and they're in a car.
	They stop it, or like, I think it might have been an ATV.
	And like, they get off, and they see something.
	They guy literally starts running through the snow, and there's a fox like 100 yards away.
	And he literally throws a falcon, and it's like perched on his arm, ready to jump out.
	Like it's like a swimmer diving out.
	And he just and you just see him like coast along this like snowbank and just claws, pick it up, and it brings it right back.
	Wow.
	Nuts.
	I've seen that clip a ton of times.
	That thing's crazy.
	I've never seen that, I don't think.
	I'll send it to you.
	Yeah, please do, man.
	That'd be nice to have.
	Yeah, those, those clips are, have you, you follow like nature is metal?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	It's so fucking crazy.
	It's too crazy.
	You're having like a nice evening, you know, you're out fucking to a nice dinner.
	You peek at the phone and it's a raccoon just eating its young and you're like, oh God.
	I was like, hey, George, what's wrong?
	I just saw, never mind.
	Phone down.
	Oh, yeah.
	Dude, oh my goodness.
	Like that, that page, like one of the, one of the craziest things I ever saw on that page was, have you ever seen like the moose run through snow?
	Have you ever, dude?
	So look it up.
	Yeah, dude.
	Look at a moose.
	Jesus, these guys.
	Dude, I was looking.
	Moose are massive animals.
	Oh, yeah, they're very large.
	And like, there's a clip of this thing running like 30 miles an hour just through six feet of snow.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, I'll relapse if I watch this too much.
	Dude, these things are crazy.
	I don't know.
	This isn't the one I've seen.
	Look, there's a white guy eating a sandwich.
	Oh, yeah, here he comes.
	Look at this.
	Leave it here.
	Oh, he's always.
	Oh, he's about to go.
	I think he just runs right past him here in a sec.
	Try that.
	Oh, we picked the worst video where it's just a guy.
	It's just two guys eating a sandwich, watching a moose.
	Oh, no, here he comes.
	No, see, this isn't the clip.
	I think I saw him.
	That's a horse also.
	Oh, there he goes.
	Oh, my God.
	Like, what is that?
	That's a Dodge Ramp.
	Can you imagine if he just like chested?
	Like, if you just got chested by the nation.
	You think he could take it on?
	No.
	Really?
	I'd cut him.
	I'd go right for his knees.
	Damn, come on.
	Go right for the thing's knees, and it's probably going to, it's going to knock my wind out, give me a concussion.
	But I ain't going out like that, man.
	Holy God.
	Dude, I'm taking from the side.
	Like, if I was a safety and that's the tight end crowd across the middle of the field, I'm going to take a creative angle and try to hit its back two legs right at the ankles and take it out, spin it out.
	That's what I would do.
	God.
	You can't take that thing on fold.
	That's like tackling Derrick Henry.
	Remember, have you seen people like Stiff Hart?
	Like, you know, they're just highlights of him slapping them to the ground.
	That's what that would be like.
	That's you trying to tackle Derrick Henry.
	I would do some other way to get him, you know.
	Now, what if you put lice in your field in the grass that got in his hair at halftime?
	He's itching too much.
	He can't hold on to the ball.
	Wouldn't that happen to you too, though?
	True, but you'd risk it.
	I know, but maybe as a defensive player, I get that.
	Oh, I'd be so.
	You just got to think of a new strategy.
	Who wants to go tackle Derrick Henry?
	Oh, no one.
	That sounds awful.
	You got to hit him before he gets the ball.
	I know.
	He gets three steps going.
	He's three steps in.
	He's full speed.
	And then it's a 200 and he's bigger than I am.
	And he plays running back.
	Wow, really?
	See, that's another thing that blows me away.
	Like, you've seen that.
	So, like, Derrick Henry plays running back.
	He's six foot, dude.
	He's like 6'4, 6'5, 245 pounds.
	Oh, my God.
	Christian McCaffrey plays running back, and he's 5'10, like 210 pounds.
	Like, they play the same position.
	Or how about Robbie Gold's a kicker?
	He's 40 years old.
	And then you have guys like Trent Williams, and they play the same sport.
	Those comparison photos always freak me out.
	You have like, you have the six foot six guys who could, you know, kill somebody easily.
	And then you have the dad of four who's just kicking footballs.
	Yeah.
	Just punting.
	Yeah.
	I'm more intelligent.
	It's just like how different everybody is in the NFL.
	It's like the, it's the biggest melting pot.
	It's crazy.
	That is probably pretty wild.
	And then you also have a lot of Samoan players people don't even realize, huh?
	Do you guys have a lot of Hawaiian or Samoan players?
	I've had them on my team in the past.
	Like we have a Tongan.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Talonoa Hafanga.
	We used to call him Huff.
	He was first team all pro this year.
	He had a great season in his second year.
	But like, yeah, he throws it whenever he makes a big play, he throws the tee up.
	It's awesome, dude.
	It's so sick.
	It's just a different energy and people are wired differently.
	And that's what I love about the NFL.
	You learn so much about people.
	Yeah, well, like, think about it.
	Like, you have people who come from great family backgrounds.
	People come from terrible family backgrounds.
	You have people who were all-Americans in college and people who were undrafted free agents got cut by their first couple teams.
	You have guys who are first-round draft pick that's had success.
	You have Mr. Relevant Brock Purdy.
	It's like everybody has such a different story.
	This is the last pick?
	Yeah, last pick, Mr. Relevant.
	So this is the crazy.
	If you just take the time to listen to somebody talk and you understand them, and you're just open about it, dude, the amount of stuff you can learn from people is amazing.
	It's really fun to sit and talk to guys.
	What's the culture like over there with the 49ers?
	It's amazing.
	It's a culture.
	Yeah, it's incredible.
	If you hear that, this is a regular fan.
	You hear that they have a really great culture over there, that John Lynch, right?
	Yeah.
	So yeah, Lynch and Coach Shanahan, they've brought in a lot of really good guys.
	But what it was was like, I had a really good rookie class and like we were like, we had a great rookie class and a lot of our rookies were on the team.
	But like about, and we had some really good vets, like Joe Staley, Garrett Selak, those are two vets that we had that were amazing people and they knew how to play the game the right way.
	But they were both like father figures to a lot of the guys, like young, because like I said, we had like 25 rookies.
	Yeah, that's so we had a lot of young guys.
	And so they're all learning from like these guys.
	So we had good vets.
	So guys learn like what matters and how to treat people with respect.
	And so like, because you'd be surprised, that's not a thing that's taught everywhere, treating people with respect.
	It's kind of crazy.
	But like in a locker room, you kind of have to because you're working with them every single day.
	But like, so we have a, we have a saw group of guys and it's kind of elevated to like, so our best players, our captains are all very high character guys.
	And so like you're either with us or you're not.
	And so you better be a good person, do your stuff that you're supposed to do and then play.
	And so like, that's kind of our culture.
	And it's, it's gone, and we work really hard.
	We hit people really hard.
	And hey, we're a very violent football team, but we still have a good time.
	Is it a pretty selfless environment over there?
	Does it feel like?
	Because like, you don't even get a ton of balls, right?
	Like you don't get a ton of balls, but you have, but you have a lot of great assets on your team and there's a lot of people that need to get the ball.
	Yeah.
	Like, so it's a point of like everybody, you want individual success.
	Like I would love to be in the Hall of Fame.
	Right.
	And so, but like to do that, you do need a certain amount of statistics to get there.
	Right.
	So there's a, there's a certain type of selfishness.
	Like you, cause there is, like, you want to, you want to be good.
	You want to make huge plays.
	You want to play.
	You want to do stuff.
	Right.
	So what's awesome about our team is like we all like, whether it's Debo, Christian McCaffrey, Kyle Yuschek, Ayuk.
	Ayuk's fantastic.
	I love Ayuk.
	He's, he's just a different energy.
	But like you have these guys, like they are, they're selfless.
	It's like, if we're winning the game and like they're playing too, like they're playing at high, like they're running great routes.
	They're, you know, blocking at a high level too.
	Like they're doing everything.
	We're doing everything we can.
	So like whether it's Christian McCaffrey or other running back like Elijah Mitchell, like to get them into the end zone, that's all I care about.
	Like us winning games is all I care about.
	And so like, yes, I love the personal accolades.
	Like you, you want to build that resume.
	But I mean, I would, I, I would trade about, yeah, I mean, I would, I'd rather win a Super Bowl than I think this is an argument I've had in the locker room before.
	Like, would you rather win a Super Bowl or be in the Hall of Fame?
	I think it would have to be the Super Bowl.
	As a fan, I don't even know who's in the Hall of Fame.
	That's right.
	I mean, I'd rather win a Super Bowl than be in the Hall of Fame.
	Now, being in both, like, both would be amazing, but like, if I had to pick one, like, hey, George, would you rather win this or do that?
	I'd pick on a Super Bowl 10 out of 10 times.
	Do you think there are players that would rather get the ball more than win the game?
	There are not on your team even, but in the league.
	I'm trying to think, like, I think there are certain players that, like, you have to have the mindset that when, like, when you get the ball, like, the more, like, you have to have a mindset, like, when I get the budget, I don't want the ball, dude.
	It looks fucking scary.
	Oh, dude, it's not for everybody.
	And it is what it is.
	Threw me the ball, dude.
	I throw it back.
	Nope.
	Honestly.
	Hey, not me, not me.
	No, not me.
	I'm going to do a timeout.
	Yeah, I feel like you just toss a ball out of bounds.
	Slip, coach, my bad.
	Just drop it.
	I'm good.
	No, but I think, wow, that's a good question.
	There might be some guys that are like more stat hungry, maybe, but they're not on our team.
	I've never really been with a guy that was like that, which has been awesome.
	But like, and there's guys who have contracts where like, hey, if I get 40 catches this season, I get a bonus.
	Right.
	Like we had a guy who we had a guy who he was a backup, right?
	But he re-signed because his rookie deal was over.
	And he had an incentive in there that was if he got over, he had to break his receiving yards from last year.
	And he only had like 150 receiving yards, but he doesn't play a lot on offense.
	He's a special teams guy.
	And by like week five, he broke it.
	And it was amazing because he got like a multiple $100,000 bonus because of it.
	And so like, yeah, like there is a selfishness to it because who doesn't want to get paid an extra $250,000 or something like that, whatever it was.
	I'm not entirely sure, but like, that's awesome.
	Like, good for you.
	And like, I'm encouraging like, hey, Jimmy, throw him the ball.
	Brock, toss that, Trey, throw that guy the ball.
	So it's just like, that's pretty fun.
	Like, so like when it is like, so there's, there's selflessness, but there's also a selfishness to it to an extent.
	Right.
	But I'm luckily be on a part of a team that, hey, like Debo's a superstar.
	He's fantastic.
	And he had a game where he had like 20, he had 20 receiving yards and 20 rushing yards.
	We won by two touchdowns.
	He's like, I don't care.
	He's like, we're winning.
	I have another option.
	Like, we have another opportunity to play next week.
	Like, it is what it is.
	And he goes, and I'll be ready when I get my opportunity.
	I'll be ready for it.
	Yeah.
	And then you like, we had a playoff game.
	He had a 74-yard touch here and he had like 120 yards receiving, a touchdown player of the game.
	It's just like, we have those guys capable on our team, but we have six of those guys or seven of those guys that are capable.
	And then it's just, it's fun to be a part of a team like that.
	Yeah.
	Because it's not everywhere.
	Was McCaffrey pretty excited when he got to go to your team?
	Yeah, I think he was.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just to have a change of pace, I'm sure, is exciting for anyone.
	Yeah.
	And also, you're getting to go to a team that has a chance to move forward in the for sure.
	And like he talking to Christian, like he loved Carolina.
	He loved his experience.
	He has a house here.
	Like that's where he thought he was going to be for his whole career.
	And they traded him.
	And getting to come to San Francisco where, especially, it was fun too because I met Christian like 2018, 2019.
	And so we've kind of been talking about like, hey, it'd be really fun to play together because we run the hell out of the football.
	He's a really talented running back, right?
	And so we always kind of joked about that.
	He actually sent me a photo.
	It was pretty funny.
	We traded jerseys in 2019.
	And at the bottom of my jersey, I said, see you soon.
	And now he's a niner, which is pretty sick.
	You got to speak things into existence, it's really true, man.
	We'll talk about that next.
	We've got to come back to that because I like that stuff.
	Really?
	I'm big into that.
	But you got to, so sorry, but like he came to this offense that we run outside zone.
	Like a lot of guys, like a lot of offenses, you kind of see big guys waddle.
	We're running as fast as we possibly can to try to make the, like we're trying to move the line of scrimmage that way while also moving it that way or that way.
	So it's like, it's a lot more movement.
	And it's, if you're a good running back and you can see those lanes, it's a lot easier to run.
	It's like, it's more difficult to run that way.
	You have to have an offensive line and like tight ends that are built for that.
	But when you have an O-line tight end fullback like combo that is talented and like and Shanahan's very good at creating plays, we're one of like the best run offenses in football.
	And so like for him to be a running back in that offense, it's a really good opportunity.
	It's exciting.
	Yeah, I felt excited when he got, because even after your quarterback went out in the, in the championship game, he had a great run right after that, right?
	Oh, yeah, that touchdown, that was insane.
	I mean, that was Herculean, dude.
	And so that was like so exciting.
	It was 18 wham.
	It was 18 wham?
	Yeah.
	I down block on the defensive tackle, which happened to be Fletcher Cox.
	He's a big dude.
	He's a big deal.
	He's a big dude.
	He's large.
	God.
	And sometimes when you push in a large man, do you feel their stomach or where do you put your hands on them?
	Oh, God.
	Like, the only way to move big people, you have to hit people in the hip.
	That's how you make a move.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	It's like when I'm blocking, so like, Ana, do you know, do you have any idea what gap scheme is?
	You ever run power?
	It's called power.
	The tight end, everyone blocks down and you pull a guard from the opposite side to kick somebody out.
	So it's called gap scheme.
	It's called power, right?
	But on that, the entire coaching point is if there's, all right, real quick, if I'm the right tight end and this is the offensive tackle, like this is the offensive tackle right here, and we're going that way, and there's a guy standing right here, I'm aiming like my, my left shoulder pad is aimed on his hip because if I can hit that hip, his feet will move and then the right tackle will pick him up and he'll move him for me while I go up to the linebacker to pin it.
	So you're creating a wall and the running back's going to right behind us.
	And so like my target is that hip and I'm trying to hit as violently and as like hard as I possibly can because it doesn't matter if you're 200 pounds or if you're 300 pounds.
	If I get you in that hip, it moves your base.
	And then if you're off your base and getting hit by another big guy, you're screwed.
	Right.
	And if it's that fast.
	And it's that fast.
	And like they don't know that play's coming too.
	So that's where my advantage is.
	And so I have to like, I'm like a coiled spring just as soon as they say hike and I'm diving through that guy's hip to go up to the second level.
	So yeah, sorry, gaps.
	That's my run game too.
	I love the run game.
	Yeah.
	Because we were talking about like, I don't get the ball every play and like I don't want the ball every play.
	I like, I like getting the ball.
	It's fun to catch the ball.
	It's fun to run like you like running with a football in open space and not getting hit is one of the coolest things you can possibly do as a human being.
	What do you feel like just driving real fast?
	Dude, I have a smile on my face.
	I'm just like, this is like, cause it doesn't happen very often.
	hard to get that open in the NFL because everyone's such good athletes.
	But when you're just running through the space, man, it's...
	Yes.
	Like, I feel like I'm a kid who just like, I just stole something.
	I'm just running as fast as I can.
	And it's such a thrilling feeling.
	But so when they're, I don't get to do that all the time.
	So like running routes is fun, but when you don't get the ball, running routes isn't really fun because I just get tired.
	And so when you're in the run game and the whole thing is like, it depends on me.
	Like the running back has to help me has to set me up, but like I have to hit this guy as hard as I can.
	And then there's all these fundamentals, whether it's your first step, your second step, your inside hand, where your outside hand goes.
	But like there's just art to it.
	And people that are really good at it, you see their technique and like what it looks like.
	And it's just, it's really fun for me.
	I watch a lot of, I like, I love watching offensive line like run the football and like hit people.
	So like there's just artwork to it.
	So like I put, I like, I'm the best run blocking foot, run blocking tight end in the NFL.
	I do it differently than anybody else does.
	And I've been doing it differently for like my entire career.
	And like my first year, maybe not so much, but like second year on, I kind of like figured out what works for me.
	And so I put as much effort as I can to that.
	So then what's great about the tight end position, I can affect every single play.
	I can have a huge impact on every single play in the football game.
	Like a wide receiver who's on the back side of an outside zone going away from him, if he doesn't block the corner, it might not be a big deal.
	Every play that I'm in on, I have the opportunity to have a huge impact, whether it's run play or a pass play.
	So like I love playing tight end because I have that opportunity.
	And because I get to do all those things, I'm going to do everything I can to be great at all those things, whether it's pass blocking, run blocking, or running routes and catching.
	So like I'm the only position that you really get to do everything.
	Like we had a tight end throw touchdown in the Super Bowl a couple years ago, the Eagles guy.
	But like you got to do a little bit of everything.
	And I really appreciate that.
	So like, I don't want to be an average run blocking tight end.
	Like I'm 240 pounds.
	Like I'm not like, there's tight ends out like Marcedes Lewis is 6'6, 6'70.
	He's like 265.
	That man, he manhandles people.
	And it's different.
	Like we do two different, like we hit people differently.
	But like I'm trying, like I want to be, and he is a very good tight end.
	He's played for, he's going into year 18. He's fantastic.
	I'm just like, I want to be great at everything that I'm asked to do so then I don't have to get taken out for anything.
	I want to play every single snap.
	You don't play every snap.
	I do play every snap.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I played the most snaps of my career this year.
	Did you really?
	Yeah, of my career.
	And I missed the first two games, which was crazy.
	That's a lot of snaps.
	Yeah, I played like, yeah, I mean, I play like 98% of the snaps every single game.
	That's incredible, man.
	Oh, dude.
	It's well, like I said, your window is only so big.
	So you want to make the most of your window.
	Yeah.
	And also, I only get to hit people for 17 weeks.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't get hit anybody.
	I have a huge blocking set at my house that I'm going to hit.
	I can't wait to hit that tomorrow.
	It's going to be really cool.
	And will you dress it up like certain players or anything?
	No, that's a good question, though.
	That's fun.
	I have thought about that, but no, I don't know who I'd set up at.
	I don't really not like very many people in the NFL.
	There's a couple guys that I don't care about or I might not care for.
	There's not too many games that I completely circle the calendar.
	There's a couple just like based on the player that I get a go against, but I don't have that issue very much.
	I like everybody.
	Yeah, like what's one of those teams where you're like, I'm going against this team this week?
	You would say the Rams.
	That's a big one for us.
	Like, because they play us the exact same way every time.
	And then at the end of the day, they have Aaron Donald, who's, I mean, besides Trent Williams, sorry, Trent Williams and Aaron Donald are the two best football players in the NFL.
	Not even close.
	I mean, sorry, Patrick Mahomes is really good.
	Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, they're other good players, but for dominance at their position, every single snap, Trent Williams, Aaron Donald.
	And Nick Bosa is getting there too.
	He's going to be really good.
	But Aaron Donald, like eight-time all-pro, like, that's insane.
	His whole career is he's all pro.
	But so when you play the Rams, you have to game plan for Aaron Donald because if you only put one guy on him, the likelihood of him blowing up the play and hitting the running back or the quarterback in the backfield and making them fumble significantly increases.
	So you have to, so you have to completely game plan for him.
	You got to plan for him hugely.
	Yeah, hugely.
	And so you have to plan for him like huge.
	And then, sorry, so like, and then like the way they play their defense is they just try to bottleneck us as much as they can.
	So it makes our outside zone a little bit more difficult.
	And then they kind of play in this like kind of a quarters thing where like they keep everything in front of, like, kind of bend, but don't break.
	Like you can give up some small set, but you're not getting anything past us.
	And then they're going to be very violent and they're going to come up in the run game.
	And so it's just like playing a team like that where they're, so like I'm in my three-point stance field and line of scrimmage is like right here.
	Oh, yeah.
	They have an outside linebacker who's wider than you are and like a tilted stance and a sprinter stance.
	And the second we say hike, he's trying to run through my face as fast as he can that way to not let me reach him.
	And they're like, not every team does that, but it's very difficult to go against because at that point, it's just kind of me saying, all right, who's going to hit who harder?
	Every time.
	Every time.
	And like we've like, and like there's different ways like we, we sometimes put a guy in motion and we're like, we'll double team that guy because like having to hit somebody and anchor, I think is easier than having to hit somebody and then move.
	Because if I anchor, the window doesn't, everyone runs into my back.
	Feel me?
	Like, so if like, if I go to block you and the offensive line's coming this way and I stop my feet, I'm going to get ran up on.
	Someone's going to go through my legs.
	So like I have to hit you and then keep my feet running.
	So I'm running like the people behind me are also moving people towards me.
	Like if you're at the point of attack, you have to run.
	And his job is to not let me run.
	Damn.
	It's wild.
	So, but the Rams do a really good job at that.
	If you, do you think, say if you coach, you coached me, you trained me, right?
	Yeah.
	Ultimate training, ultimate coaching.
	Do you think I could play you don't?
	No.
	In the NFL or like pickleball?
	Pickleball, I think you'd be really good at it.
	Dude, pickleball.
	Come on, man.
	Dude, we have a lot of guys that play it.
	I love that game.
	What about in maybe the USFL?
	Like, what position are you on, Don?
	I'm saying anything on the field.
	And you were my trainer, man.
	And I would never give up.
	You could long snap.
	I have a good long snap.
	But I mean, you'd have to, how much do you weigh right now?
	Probably 186.
	84. You'd have to get up to like 220?
	Fuck, dude.
	Well, you have to hold some weight because in the NFL, when there's a small long snapper, they'll just put like a defensive lineman on him.
	And it blows him up.
	Yeah, it just crushes him.
	Yeah, so like there's a, you have to have a little size to at least.
	But you could do that.
	I just want to have to wake up and eat at night, like in the middle of the night, like a baby.
	Dude, so in college, I had a really difficult time.
	Like I couldn't get past 225.
	I couldn't do it for like three years.
	And so in my third year, I drank eight Gatorade protein shakes a day.
	And like literally I had, so like, let's just say I wake up at 6 a.m.
	for my lift.
	I drink a protein shake then.
	I get to my lift.
	And before I get, before I start the lift, before I start the warm-up, I drink another protein shake.
	I go through the warm-up, come in, drink a protein shake before I get on the scale.
	This is just to try to keep my weight on.
	After the lift, I drink a protein shake.
	I take three or three, I think I'm at four.
	I think I'm at four there.
	I leave, and then for lunch, I have a protein shake.
	I'm in class, I have a protein shake.
	Is your truck just full of dirty protein shake containers?
	Yeah, like, do you ever see the old Gatorade cans?
	Yeah.
	Like those big, thick ones?
	No, I'm lying to you.
	Hold on, bring it up.
	Hold that up.
	Look up, Gatorade protein shake can, like metal can.
	But I would drink those.
	I had so many of them at my house.
	And then I would have one, like before I go to bed.
	And then I would set an alarm if I was really struggling if I would set an alarm for 3 a.m.
	or no, 2 a.m.
	and then 4 a.m.
	Have them again?
	Yeah, just to drink them.
	Because that was the easiest thing for me.
	I didn't eat like a drug addict.
	Dude, you could kill someone with that.
	Like it was, it was a brick.
	I haven't even seen that.
	I don't think that's available to the just to the public.
	It's not available anymore.
	But also like I learned.
	That's insane.
	I know.
	You know how bad a product or how something off about a product has to be that's not available.
	I think you have to go out of your weight.
	Well, yeah, that's actually weird.
	I didn't even know Gatorade did protein until I got to Iowa and I was like, oh, whoa.
	No one knew it until just now when you told us.
	Probably every college football athlete knew.
	That was in a lot of places.
	But yeah, so that was.
	You got to have that weight on.
	So that's a number one thing to even be able to play.
	You really have to have some weight on you.
	Yeah, to an extent.
	Like, I mean, like, I was, like I said, I always weigh, if I weigh 225 pounds right now, I wouldn't be in the NFL.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I wouldn't be able to block.
	Like, I'd have to be at least 240 for me to be able to move people still.
	To even show up.
	Who's the big guy?
	Oh, Calais Campbell, huh?
	Oh, my God.
	I met him for the first time.
	He's the nicest guy.
	Oh, my God.
	He's like a giant.
	He's like, how are you doing down there?
	Oh, hey, hi, hi.
	Like, hi, sir.
	How are you?
	Nice to meet you.
	His brother is a comedian.
	Oh, cool.
	So I got to meet him a couple of times.
	But yeah, he's like the gentlest giant.
	Dude, he's super, super nice.
	Yeah, he's a cool guy.
	I haven't met a ton of NFL players, but I got to see Brandon Marshall at the Super Bowl.
	Real nice guy.
	Yeah, he's cool too.
	He's huge.
	Yeah, he was very tall.
	I thought he was White Howard at first.
	Yeah.
	That's funny.
	But yeah, that is, dude, he's bigger than I am too.
	And he played wide receiver.
	Think about that for a sec.
	It's like, Brandon, why do you just play tight end, dude?
	Well, less money.
	But I was like, I mean, you could have already played another couple years.
	Why do y'all get less money?
	I don't know.
	Let's figure that out.
	I'll call in and you're going to figure it out.
	You're doing more.
	Thank you.
	I never realized that.
	Get this.
	So Travis Kelsey, this guy, 1,300 yards, 10 touchdowns a year for like the last seven years, basically.
	But he gets more balls thrown to him than you.
	Sure, but my point is, is that if he was a wide receiver, his contract, he'd be the 26th highest paid wide receiver in the NFL.
	Does that make sense?
	No.
	No, he should probably be top five.
	So that's like, I don't know.
	He should probably be making, if like there's wide receivers out there making over $25 million that don't get his stats.
	So like, why would he not get paid more?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	I mean, like, I was, I think I was third in the NFL in touchdowns this year.
	And yeah, I mean, there's 20 receivers that make more money than me.
	That's not, no, yeah, like, I'm happy for them.
	I'm happy for them that they're making their money.
	It's not against them.
	No, it's nothing against them.
	It's just like, that's the tight end market.
	Like, our franchise tag is like $10 million, which is like, if a team doesn't like Evan Ingram, tight end for the Jackson, whatever it is, he was franchise tag, which means like they don't want to do a new deal yet, but they're going to give you a one-year deal.
	And it's based on the average of like the top couple contracts of your position.
	So his was $10 million.
	And then the quarterback franchise tag is $30 million for that one season.
	And I get the quarterback is the most positive, that's the most important position, but like wide receiver franchise tag is, I want to say, like 20-something.
	But it's like, are they really double the value?
	No, I don't think so.
	Especially, yeah, I don't think.
	No, I don't think.
	Especially now when you're getting all these hybrid, you have like Taysom Hill, you have a hybrid player that could possibly do it all.
	Yeah, sure.
	No, now the thing, when you get an you, you have to be great at all those things for it to be a value for you in a contract negotiation too, right?
	That's a good point.
	Yeah.
	So you have to be great.
	Like if you and if you can just if you can just do several things, but you do them averagely, I'd rather have like a guy that does this great and a guy that does this great than having a guy that does it both average.
	Right.
	That's a good point.
	Yeah.
	So like that's a part of it too.
	But it's just like is there a position that we don't know that you could possibly play on the field that people wouldn't really realize maybe?
	Oh, dude, I would love to play like outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense.
	Kind of like, I know, I'm not going to say like, I'm not going to say I'm going to be amazing at it, but I think I would have a real shot at it.
	If I could get up to like 260, 265, maybe 270 and set an edge, I think I'd do that.
	I'm a really good athlete and like, you don't have to run as much, which is really nice.
	I get tired sometimes, dude.
	Oh, I get tired watching.
	Thank you.
	I've had tough.
	I just paused it and fucking get water.
	Oh, dude.
	If you ever watch, I put the oxygen mask on almost after every drive.
	Really?
	I don't know if it does anything.
	It's nice as that, huh?
	I don't know if it does anything, but I do feel better.
	Like, I'm just like, oh, well, even if it's a placebo effect, I'm big into placebo effects.
	If you believe that it works, do it.
	Yeah.
	Is it flavored, the oxygen?
	Is it like grape ice or anything?
	I'm going to ask.
	Yeah.
	You know, next year.
	Get some gas in there, dog.
	Riptide Rush Gator.
	I'd do something.
	Glacier Freeze.
	Yeah.
	Salted caramel.
	I don't know.
	I'm also naming vape.
	You're a sweet guy.
	Well, I'm naming vape flavors also.
	I don't think I've vaped since college.
	I did that for a hot second.
	Don't do it, dude.
	I know.
	No, I was listening to a couple of your podcasts.
	You were fucking suffering from it.
	I listened to your Jay Cutler podcast.
	That was fun.
	Did you?
	Yeah.
	I had to prepare a little bit, dog.
	Oh, that's a good point, man.
	Yeah, Jay kind of doesn't.
	I can't believe Jay played quarterback that long in the NFL.
	I don't think Jay can believe it.
	That's a good point.
	You know, it's funny too.
	So I'm a Bears fan.
	I grew up in Iowa.
	There's no NFL team.
	So I grew up a Chicago Bears fan.
	Yeah, so I grew up a Chicago Bears Cubs fan.
	And I still like the Bears.
	I'm still a fan of the Bears.
	Was it tough during the Cutler years?
	He brought a lot of excitement to it.
	He really did.
	He would have games where he'd throw for 350 yards and four touchdowns.
	It was really fun to watch.
	If you're going to be a Bears fan, plenty of heartbreakers, but I enjoy Jake Cutler.
	The memes of him having a cigarette in his mouth at the podium.
	Those are some of my favorite football memes because he was the first person that they made those memes about was him with the like just cigarettes, like just smoking cigarette Jay Cutler.
	Oh, he's a regular dude.
	He's just a regular dude.
	Jake Cutler's a regular dude, man.
	Like I'll see him at a bar, see him at like a party or something.
	And he's Just like you would almost, yeah, you wouldn't even get.
	I don't know if you wouldn't guess that he'd be, I don't know, but yeah, he's just a most regular dude.
	He's just like, that's the crazy thing about NFL players.
	Most of us are just regular dudes.
	Do there be, are there still players that smoke cigarettes?
	You think?
	Like, you ever been out there and you're like, Jesus, somebody's been fucking smoking at halftime?
	I had a teammate my rookie season who after practice and after games would smoke cigarettes.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	I'm not going to say who it is, but there was, we lost my rookie year.
	We lost in Lambo.
	Aaron Rodgers did like a 30-second drive to kick a field goal to win the game.
	And like this one, we were 0-9 too.
	So we almost went into Lambo and won as like my rookie class.
	And they were a much better team than us, but we somehow kept it close.
	And like losing now, and I had a good game too, but like it was a heartbreaker.
	And like, like I said, I grew up with Bears fan.
	So like playing in Lambo for the first time in a night game, like it was really cool.
	It was a cool experience.
	Like you want to win those games.
	So losing and like I go to the shower and he's in there smoking a cigarette.
	And I was like, hey, man, I'll take one of those if you don't mind, man.
	Hopefully I don't get in trouble for that.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, that's probably illegal, but I'm sorry, NFL.
	Don't get mad at me.
	But I did do that one time and it was, that was a really fun one.
	And like one of the coaches walked in, like, looked at us and he just walked out of the shower.
	So I was like, yeah, dude, just give us a sec, man.
	Just chilling.
	Hey, look, it's two probably nude men smoking cigarettes.
	You're not wrong.
	It was.
	Yeah, bro.
	It's rush.
	Okay.
	That's what it is.
	Let them have their moment.
	They just lost again.
	Yeah, like, dude, can you give me a sec, please?
	Oh, there should be eight minutes where you should be allowed to smoke a cigarette after the game, I think, if your team loses.
	Are there quarterbacks that you wouldn't be excited to play for, do you feel like?
	Ooh.
	Excited to play for?
	Well, let's just do this.
	How about nonverbal communication?
	You don't have to say anything.
	Okay.
	I'll rattle off a couple names, right?
	And what do you want me to do?
	You don't have to do anything.
	Okay.
	Just look at just look.
	Okay, I'm looking forward.
	All right.
	Andy Dalton.
	Do the Red Rocket.
	Dish Allen Watson.
	Jamarcus Russell.
	Jamarcus, the tape guy.
	Remember that?
	They gave him fake tapes.
	That's crazy.
	See, the only way it would be as a teammate for him to do that, that would piss me off.
	That would bum me out.
	That would bum me out.
	Like, I'll give anybody an opportunity.
	Like, I don't care who the, like, I don't, like, if you, if you put your effort in and you show up and you play and, like, you did everything you could to be prepared and you have a bad game, I'm not going to hate you for that.
	Right.
	If you tried.
	But, like, if you go out of your, like, if you don't, like, try and get.
	You're not prepared.
	Yeah.
	If you're not professional.
	It's your job.
	Like, that's the crazy thing.
	Like, in college, you have to do classes and like you're a very, you're testosterone field 20-year-old.
	Like, you have other things in your life that might at that time matter more than football.
	If you're in the NFL, like, yes, your family matters and like there's certain things, but like it's your job.
	It's your profession.
	And you're, you have all, you have 60 other guys in that locker room who are counting on you to do your job.
	Oh, yeah.
	And for you to do that, yeah, like I wouldn't appreciate that.
	So that's, that's something I would, that would piss me off.
	Yeah, something like that would really upset me, I think.
	Yeah.
	Do you what you're supposed to do?
	Well, like, my goal is to win a Super Bowl.
	I, like, proven in the NFC Championship game, I can't help much if I can't get the ball thrown to me.
	Yeah.
	We didn't have a quarterback.
	So could, should somebody, who, who was the last quarterback to go in there?
	Because you guys lost a couple quarterbacks.
	So you guys lost your whole quarterbacks all year.
	Yeah.
	So fun fact, I've played six years in the NFL and four out of, I've had one quarterback for one season, one time.
	2019, I had Jimmy G for one season, and we went to the Super Bowl.
	My rookie year, we had three quarterbacks.
	My second year, we had three quarterbacks.
	You had Nick Mullen one time, too.
	Love Nick Mullins.
	Yeah.
	CJ Beathard.
	Yeah, he is.
	Oh, yeah.
	CJ Bethard.
	I'm a fan, man.
	He lives in Franklin, Tennessee.
	Oh, he does.
	Yeah, he's part of the reason I live here.
	He was one of my boys.
	So we played five years together at Iowa and then four years together at San Francisco.
	So he's one of my best friends.
	Oh, that's cool, man.
	He seems like a really neat guy.
	Oh, he's wonderful.
	But he, so, like, my second year, I had three quarterbacks.
	2020, I had three quarterbacks.
	2021, I had two quarterbacks.
	And this past season, I had four quarterbacks.
	Fuck, you're bad luck.
	No, yeah, not me.
	I'm not bad luck.
	Come on, dude.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Oh, dude.
	I never knocked wood on an American flag.
	That's got to be good luck.
	That's got to be good luck.
	It's got to be great luck.
	Yeah, but so that's.
	How hard was it when, like, did our fourth quarterback was Josh, by the way?
	Great dude.
	Josh Johnson.
	That was the last guy who got hurt.
	That was the last guy that got hurt.
	And then, so after that, was there any talk that somebody else could go in there?
	So like you, like you, you tentatively game plan for like an emergency quarterback and Kyle Ushek, our fullback, was our emergency quarterback.
	But like there's only like, he doesn't know all the footwork stuff for plays.
	Like the playbook was like four play, like four to eight plays because it's crazy because Coach Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, he's been in NFL like, I want to say like 15 to 20 years, like being a part of coaching in it.
	And he's never had it happen to him.
	His dad, Mike Shanahan, never, never seen it.
	We can't even text his dad at halftime.
	Yeah, what do I do?
	Like he never experienced it either.
	And then we have our running backs coach.
	He's like, he's in year like 60 and he's never seen it either at like at any level.
	And so it's just like, it doesn't happen often.
	So like you're mild, and everyone's like, well, why aren't you more prepared?
	Because it doesn't happen.
	Of course, you're not prepared.
	But were you guys like looking around the sideline?
	Like, who's even lean enough here to even throw, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, because at that point, it's also like a stat.
	You can't have like.
	The only thing that I wanted to see just for like, even at the point, like, because like after, after Josh got hurt, like, and we were down and like, it's, I think at that, when he Josh got hurt, I think we were only down set, like we might have been down seven or no, we were down 21 to seven when he, excuse me, when he got hurt.
	And so at that point, you're like, okay, we can't throw.
	We, like, the next couple of, like, you're like, okay, we might have a shot here, but I think they went down and scored.
	It's 28 to 7. And you're just like, we can't physically throw the football and they're just going to put 11 people in the box.
	All right.
	Like, sure.
	Like, how creative can you get?
	I know Jawan Jennings, one of our wide receivers, he played at Tennessee.
	He was like a top five quarterback recruit in high school, which was kind of real.
	So like, maybe I wanted to see that, but like, at the end of the day, like, you're not going to, it's not high school where you can just put your best athlete at quarterback or college where you can just put a really fast guy at quarterback and you just run around the edge and do cool stuff.
	Like that doesn't exist in the NFL.
	Like it just doesn't happen.
	Like there's too many good athletes.
	So it's like, but like, hey, if he would have gotten him in and like, we would have thrown the ball, he throws interception.
	It is what it is.
	Like, we're like, you're trying everything you can to not like, oh, we're going to lose this game.
	But it's like, the most important position we don't have.
	Yeah.
	Fuck, it was such.
	It's like playing chess.
	You don't have a king.
	Oh, you lost.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the only other team I've seen do is the Denver Broncos during COVID.
	They had all their quarterbacks had COVID.
	And so you put a wide receiver in, but they had a week to prepare at least, or a couple days at least.
	But it's just like, what are you supposed to do?
	Yeah.
	Damn, it was such a bummer, man.
	I'm so sorry.
	It wasn't even fun to watch.
	No.
	And I, hey, if you're an Eagles football player or an Eagles fan, probably loved it.
	And good, like, you should.
	I don't even think you love it.
	But you enjoy it.
	If you love something like that, then you're sick too.
	Sure.
	I would hate that, dude.
	Well, like, they loved winning, but like, winning in that way is like, it's not exciting.
	Like, there's nothing, like, there's not really anything exciting about that.
	No.
	If you're cheering then or fuck, yeah.
	It's like, sure, like, hey, you guys are scored.
	Like, they're winning the game and they're beating the, like, yeah, there's not much.
	You're beating somebody who's like hands or tied behind their back.
	And, like, hey, they won and they.
	Yeah, you're not saying no, but I feel you.
	Like, at least it would have been an entertaining game.
	Oh, yeah.
	If, like, even if, like.
	Well, they should take their quarterback out.
	Both of them.
	That'd be wild.
	If they go.
	Well, how about this?
	That's insane.
	I shouldn't even say that.
	Do you think it's fair that the overtime team just goes to kick that field goal?
	It seems kind of lame each time.
	Like for the win?
	Well, that rule changed like five years ago.
	Oh, it did?
	Yeah.
	So then it went to like, you had to, if you score a touchdown, you automatically win.
	And then this past season in the playoffs in overtime, both teams get a chance, whether it's a touchdown or not.
	Because y'all remember the Bills Chiefs game from last year and it went back and forth.
	And everyone's like, well, if the offenses were so high powered, if the Bills would have gotten a shot, they would have gone out and scored.
	And so they changed the rule for the playoffs.
	If that happened, that both teams get an opportunity at it, which is interesting to see.
	Yeah, I think it's more exciting.
	It can make the game a little bit longer.
	It definitely makes it more exciting as a fan.
	I mean, I think college has overtime perfect.
	It's so much fun.
	It's so much fun.
	11th overtime.
	Yeah, dude, like that's 2 a.m.
	And then also for the people watching, like those touchdowns count and there's multiple of those.
	So it's like a guy could go like, what was like the, there's like an LSU old missed game that it was like tied like 17 to 17 and it ended 53 to 48 or something like that.
	Or 53 to 47, some shit like that.
	But it's like a guy in that game, a wide receiver, like at the end of the game, he had like five catches for 60 yards and a touchdown.
	At the end of the game, he had eight catches for four touchdowns and 100 yards.
	It's just like, where'd this come from?
	It's a four over time.
	So I think the NFL should just start at the 35-yard line because then if you go three and now, it's still a 52-yard kick.
	Like that's not easy.
	Right?
	52 yards like from the 35 and just have him do it that way.
	It'd be so much fun.
	I mean, just like you're just taking shots for touchdowns at that point, man.
	That'd be so sweet.
	It'd be sick.
	Dude, yeah, that'd be a bother.
	And like, dude, the stats too.
	Like fantasy football players, fantasy football guys would love that because, hey, now Devontae Azericks, at the end of overtime, where he has 10 catches for 122 touchdowns, now he has 14 catches for six touchdowns.
	Yeah, fantasy football guys are so crazy.
	They'd never even talk to their wives anymore.
	Do you think, and we'll get you out of here in a second.
	What was you were talking about?
	Oh, do you think that who do you think will be all his quarterback next year?
	Brock will get a fair shot at it, do you think?
	Well, yeah, I mean, he hasn't lost a game yet.
	Like, he got hurt at this fifth play of the game.
	And so, like, he hasn't really lost a game yet.
	He should get it.
	Yeah, I mean, it's also a very competitive room over there.
	It's a super competitive room.
	Well, right now, we don't.
	Trey Lance, I think he just got cleared.
	It's like he's out throwing and stuff again.
	So that's awesome.
	I'm very happy for him because he's a very special talent who has the ability to be a very good football player.
	He has seen some reps.
	And he's young.
	He hasn't played a lot of football games.
	He has seen his reps.
	Oh, yeah.
	So it'll be a good battle between them.
	And Garabo, y'all still have him?
	No, he's a free agent.
	Oh, he's going to leave?
	Oh, yeah, he's out.
	Oh, dang.
	Yeah.
	So, but like, I think it's a.
	If Brady came back, would he be able to go to y'all or not?
	Yeah, he's a free agent.
	That'd be wild.
	That'd be wild, huh?
	Yeah, I mean, he's from the Bay.
	He is?
	He is from the Bay.
	That's crazy.
	Interesting.
	Anyways, but Purdy, like I said, Purdy won eight games.
	You can't like bench.
	You can't bench him.
	So I think it's a quarterback competition.
	I think when you go to, and again, I can't win eight games doing, just even betting money on every week.
	It's crazy.
	And again, he's hurt right now, right?
	So I think he just, I think he got surgery today, maybe, on his UCL, which is like the ACL of your elbow, I guess.
	Oh, they got a third one now?
	It's crazy, dude.
	Wild stuff.
	But he has to recover from that.
	So it's going to be an interesting training camp to see how the reps are split and stuff like that.
	It's going to be exciting.
	It will be exciting.
	And that's my entire, my entire career, I've had QP controversy.
	So let's ride, dude.
	Another year of it, baby.
	I love it.
	That's exciting.
	Bring it.
	One last thing for you, Levi.
	I want to get, you were talking about like speaking things into existence.
	Yeah, you wanted to bring it back that up.
	Yeah, because you kind of talked about it.
	It's interesting how little we like speak out into the world what we want.
	Yeah.
	Like how, like, how often do I, like, I'll sit and complain in my head or think about things or worry, bro, all for years.
	Yeah.
	But rarely will I say, this is what I fucking want.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	And so you're going to do it.
	Yeah.
	So you're going to get it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like I'm big, like, I don't know if you journal very much, but I got big into that this literally like the last 12 months.
	I met a former player who, uh, who kind of talked about how he did it too.
	And like just writing down like what you expect the season to be, like what your, what your goals are, or writing about them in the past tense too.
	That was kind of a cool thing to like take me, give me an example of that.
	So like you could talk about winning the Super Bowl or you could talk about like.
	Oh, like I won the Super Bowl.
	Yeah.
	And you could talk about confetti fall and you talk about like, and you speak it into existence.
	Like there's a creativeness to it.
	And so like, it's kind of wow, because then once you see it and you've, it's kind of like the same as football.
	Like I do visualization a lot.
	So like I rep the plays in my head.
	And so then by the time I get to them in practice or whether it's the game, I've already done them in my head like 10 times.
	So when you call the play, I'd have nothing to worry about because I've already done it.
	And so it's like speaking into existence too.
	It's like you visualize it happening.
	And then so like, I don't know if you speak it into existence or you're like, once the moment comes, you're ready for it.
	What's really interesting, man, it makes me think of EMDR.
	You know, have you heard of this?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Explain it to me.
	Can you bring it up?
	I think my wife is calling me.
	So EMDR, eye movement, desensitization and reprocessing therapy is a mental health treatment technique.
	The method involves moving your eyes.
	Goal is to help you heal from trauma or other distress.
	So anyway, what's interesting about EMDR is they take you back to times in your life, right?
	That were traumatic for you.
	And you talk through with a therapist to put a new experience into that time of your life.
	So then when you come out of the modality or the experience of doing EMDR, the therapy, then the past part of your life that was hurting you, it's now filled with a different part of your life that's positive.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So where you are at now currently will eventually start to feel different because the past, the potholes have been filled in.
	That's crazy.
	So it's almost like a reverse of doing that, which you're saying.
	Yeah, sure.
	Like you're creating those in the future.
	And so then by the time you get to them, it's like.
	Well, you're looking back on your past.
	You're writing into your own past that hasn't even happened yet.
	Yeah.
	You're writing your own past and saying these things happen.
	It's wild.
	And like, I, yeah, like, and I, I did it every single day for the entire season.
	Wow.
	It's wild.
	And whether you're writing, like, whether your goals are personally for the season, whether it's goals, like whatever it is, like kind of talking about it in the past sense, it was, it's really weird.
	Like, it's like to get used to writing like that.
	It's, cause I've never done anything like that before.
	And so like, that was a different experience for me.
	Um, but you're talking about like that type of therapy.
	Have you seen the type of therapy that's like, let's just say you have a like, you go to therapy right now and like everyone has certain traumas in their life.
	And the theory, I can't remember exactly what it's called, but it's like, like, so 10 year old, you, something happened.
	Right.
	And like that version of you, like that version of you, like the state that you went into, like to recover from that is still a part of your personality.
	And right.
	So like, whether it's like, and like how you manage with it.
	So like, okay, so let me, let's just say you're 10 years is bad.
	Let's say you're a 25 year old and something bad happens and you turn to drinking or something like that.
	Right.
	And whenever something bad happens to you, kind of go back to that, right?
	You go back to that.
	And because like that's your therapy for it.
	So like this goes into you kind of revisit, you have a conversation with that 25 year old you.
	Okay.
	And you're like, and then you try to get them to accept it because like you have these different parts of you inside of you like for these different experiences, whether it's like, um, you have like that type of experience or like, I'm trying to explain it the best way I can, but it's like you have to have these conversations with this old past of you to kind of let go and like you kind of hold on to stuff.
	Ah, interesting.
	So you're going back to like an injured part of you or an injured part of you.
	And you're trying to help them get through it because like you can't talk to it like, let's just say you had a bad call.
	Let's you had a really bad experience in college, like with a coach or something like that.
	And they like verbally abused you.
	Right.
	And like that part of you is like still there.
	Like it's, it is still there.
	And like you go to therapy, you talk about it.
	Like if you just kind of hold on to it, that part of you is always still kind of like this dark anger.
	And so you have to kind of go back there and talk to them and like talk to that 18 year old self.
	Right.
	Like almost making amends with your old with or like guiding them to the light, maybe so to be, but like just kind of let go of that anger.
	Cause if you never talked about it, just kind of holding on, like you can push stuff down for so long, but like at some point, you got to address it.
	Yeah, it says trauma can freeze your emotional response at the age you experienced it.
	When you feel or act emotionally younger than your actual age is just known as age regression.
	Well, it's even the same as almost EMDR.
	It's like going back into the specifics that reminded me of it.
	And I was like, because I know my dad talked to me about that.
	It's just like a type of therapy you can do like to overcome like traumatizing events that happened to you.
	And I was, it was a very like, I thought about it and I was like, that actually makes sense to me.
	Well, your dad is really interesting, man.
	I've seen some of the episodes where he's like doing Hidden Pearls, you said it's called?
	Hidden Pearls.
	Where he'll like, he's like doing his Mindful Mondays, which is fun.
	Yeah, Mindful Monday, just like kind of like taking you through an experience.
	You can just see how it's part of his, you guys' whole world.
	All that stuff.
	He's big into that, like breathing, visualizing.
	It just, it helps, dude.
	Like when you just can take a second to yourself and like just kind of breathe and like just be one with whether it's your breath or just like your own thoughts or something like that.
	Because most of the time, like we're all so scattered.
	We're like this, you're on your phone, you're watching TV, you're looking at opinions of other people, but like not too often are you just kind of sitting there like, like just having that conversation with yourself because you kind of need to, man.
	Like if you, if you, if you don't, like, then you're not really progressing as a human.
	You're just kind of absorbing everyone else's information.
	And then like, is that who you are these days or do you want to be your own person?
	And it's what's really interesting, George, is that they've created, it's so hard.
	It's so addictive.
	They've mastered our attention.
	Social media is amazing.
	They've mastered the art of taking our attention.
	It's incredible.
	Like TikTok videos, man, you can go to a rabbit hole for two hours and not even blink.
	Oh, you don't even know who you are.
	You come out, you're a fucking child's in the middle school.
	Like, what just happened?
	Like, where is going on?
	Well, it's funny.
	I was watching Chris Rock's new special last night.
	Oh, I haven't seen it yet.
	Is it good?
	It is cool, man.
	I didn't watch all of it, but he talks about your attention.
	That's the number one thing that people are after these days.
	Yeah, that sounds about raising your attention.
	Well, whoever you put your attention into is how your life changes.
	I know.
	So it's funny when I think of my head that I'm always constantly overwhelmed by different thoughts and I feel sporadic and I can't keep my attention span on anything.
	But then when I look at what a TikTok is, it's literally what, oh, this is just a thing of what I am.
	It's wild.
	It's just like a bunch of thoughts.
	Everything seems kind of disorganized.
	It's all in one place, but it fucking feels.
	I mean, if you saw TikTok, you would give it a antidepressant.
	Yeah, dude, it's nuts.
	TikTok, like this, this is how social media like captures you.
	Like, my wife always yells at me, like, I'll go sit on the toilet.
	Oh, you won't come back?
	Dude, you're 30 minutes later.
	Like, what just happened?
	Oh, my God.
	Where was it?
	Why are my legs asleep?
	Like, what just, what has happened?
	Like, what?
	Goodness gracious.
	But she's like, you can just get lost in those things.
	So, like, I refuse to get an Apple Watch because why do I need a phone on my wrist if I have one in my pocket?
	Oh, it's crazy.
	It's crazy.
	I watched somebody have a fight the other day with their son on an Apple Watch through texting or something.
	It took them like an hour and a half to even have the fight.
	And it was the guy who was all the shit.
	I've seen guys on my team that wear Apple Watches out to like walkthrough practices and like you're not at home.
	You're not like, it's late.
	It's just learning like plays and stuff.
	But like they'll have it on and like I'll be in the huddle and guy next, he'll be like, you know, I'll heal vibration.
	He'll look at him like, what are you, like, are you on your phone at a walkthrough?
	Like, what are you doing?
	He goes, I just, it tracks my heart rate.
	Why do you need to track your heart rate right now, dude?
	You're jogging.
	Like, relax.
	Like, take your Apple Watch off, disconnect for a little bit.
	It's okay.
	Like, see, I have a calculator on my watch.
	Oh, you got that old school Cassio Amazon.
	I love it.
	They have it on there?
	Yeah.
	Dude, so get this.
	This was $30.
	I bought on Amazon and I've worn the entire season.
	I love it.
	I talked about on a podcast one time.
	I went back to Amazon to buy another one because I forgot.
	I thought I lost this one.
	$80.
	So I don't know if I'm just hyping them up for some reason or something like that.
	But yeah, $80.
	So it's $80, but still, like, that's a pretty good price for a gold watch.
	Yeah, it is.
	But still, I feel like it almost seems sometimes I feel like it knows what you've been shopping for.
	If you shop for something expensive recently, it will make tickets more expensive for you for things.
	I mean, like, I'll talk, you'll talk about, hey, I need deodorant.
	And $70.
	I scroll through Instagram and the third, there's an ad.
	It's for old spice.
	I'm like, what the heck?
	I talked about this 10 minutes ago.
	Why is there, it's just listening, dog.
	Or if you even think about killing your cousin or something, and the fucking next thing you know, it's just all hammers.
	Dude, wild.
	Dude, it's crazy.
	Even having an Apple watch is so, it's like, it'll tell you now, like, you just coughed.
	And you're, the dude's like, oh, I just coughed, you know?
	Do you need a, yeah, do you need Dayquil?
	Lunch belch in 30 seconds.
	Yeah, dude, it's nuts, man.
	It's too much, man.
	Yeah, because I like wore, I wore one of, I didn't get an Apple watch, but I wore the Garmin watch that like tracks a lot of your stuff.
	And like, like a lot of triathlon runners run it because like they have to know all their stuff all the time.
	And I was like, after a while, I was like, you know what?
	The only thing I really care about is like, I like seeing my sleep.
	So like I have that, the aura ring stuff.
	And I like seeing my sleep because I either there's like, it tells you how long you slept.
	It tells you how well you slept.
	And right.
	So this is my mindset.
	So like, whether if I get like green in one of those areas, A, I'm going to have a good day.
	Because whether if, let's say I got seven hours of sleep and that's red, but I hate 90% of a super good deep sleep and I was healthy.
	You're like, okay, I'm going to have a great day today.
	Or if they're both in the red, my mindset is now, all right, I didn't give myself a good advantage today.
	So I got to try a little bit harder today because it's going to be a harder day because I didn't sleep well and I didn't get a lot of hours.
	And so that's like people are like, well, I don't like to see that.
	I'm like, why?
	It's just another challenge that you could accomplish today.
	Well, that's a, I mean, I think that almost sums up just your entire approach, man.
	You're lucky that you, or not lucky.
	I mean, obviously, you know, a lot of it comes from your own family experience and some, maybe some of your parents' influence and stuff.
	But because a lot of people, I get that number, I'd see that 60 out of 100 or whatever.
	Fuck.
	I'd start texting fuck you to everybody right out of the gate, you know, and I'd even text myself, fuck you.
	I feel you.
	I don't know, dude.
	But then I would let it ruin me as opposed to me saying, okay, today's gonna be a little bit more of a challenge.
	It's an uphill challenge, guys.
	It's uphill, boy.
	It's up.
	Well, like, so, I mean, when you're in, like, like right now, I'm in the offseason, right?
	So, like, one, my competitive, my competitive switch is much lower than when I'm in season.
	Um, but like, when you're in season and it's a Tuesday night and I have to wake up and I have like, I have six hours of meetings before I go do a walkthrough and then I have to go do a practice of plays that I learned at 8 a.m.
	that morning and have to study those plays before practice.
	Like those six hours, like, I can't be off.
	Right.
	Like that's, I can't be.
	Like, I can't let my guy, I can't let the guy next to me down.
	And my expectation for him is that he's doing everything he can to be as prepared as he can.
	So like, you don't have an, you don't have an option to be off.
	And so like, that's how I, that, so you have to find different ways to encourage yourself.
	And so, hey, I had it.
	Hey, I slept eight hours and it's good.
	I'm going to have a great day today.
	Or if it's one's bad, one's good.
	Hey, one of them is green.
	I'm going to be great.
	And then the last one's like, all right, well, I'm just going to have to kick my own ass today.
	Like, bring it.
	And like, it's like, that's, that's what my mind said has to be.
	Now, offseason, yeah, I might bitch him on a little bit more, but like, it is what it is.
	Like, I only have so many off days.
	Like, I only have so many days anyways.
	So, like, I'm going to, I'm just going to keep going.
	I think you got to give yourself some breaks here and there.
	I mean, even if you don't, even if you have a job that doesn't really even allow that many, you know, and you know, you got to take them when you can get them.
	It's a high con, it's a high competition level you're in.
	It's a high competition profession.
	Yeah, you got to take them when you can get them.
	Man, well, I'm going to say thank you for coming, and I appreciate it, dude.
	And it's been exciting just to hear about just some of your thoughts and get to know you a little bit better.
	And yeah, I'm so happy for you and your success.
	Thank you.
	And, oh, tell us about Titan U. I wanted to hear about it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because last year I heard Tidy and U was going on, right?
	And I fucking wanted to meet everybody.
	Jeremy Holt didn't text me back.
	So I literally parked in the parking lot where you guys were practicing.
	Vanderbilt?
	Oh, Drake had texted me, right?
	Yeah, Drake was the ballboy.
	Lipscomb.
	Although, so that was two years ago.
	Yeah, Lipscomb.
	Two years ago at Lypscom.
	I would have gotten you in.
	Oh, well, fuck.
	Honestly, dude, I may have been outside of some other conference because I was there.
	I was there at Lipscomb this year, dude.
	No joke, bro.
	I'm not sure.
	You're at Vanderbilt.
	We're at Vanderbilt this year.
	Y'all were really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, then it was something else going on.
	But I was texting Jeremy.
	I was texting Drake.
	They said we were in a place where they couldn't get good reception, right?
	Yeah, for sure.
	But I was outside of a group of men who were like just stretching and I was like just kind of being sad in my truck outside of Lipscomb.
	But because I wanted to come up and just like just be around and just see what was going on.
	Yeah, you want to come through this year?
	Yeah, man.
	June 20th is our welcome party.
	It's on a Tuesday night.
	Okay.
	So it's our welcome party.
	It's at the top of the Thompson Hotel.
	Ooh, nice.
	And it's really fun.
	Yeah, all the tight ends are up there.
	It's just literally, it's just getting to know guys that are around.
	It's really, it's a fun event.
	And then Wednesday, Thursday is on the field stuff at Vanderbilt.
	And then Wednesday night, we have like a function somewhere on Broadway.
	And then maybe 1230 Club or something like that.
	We're working on the details.
	And then Thursday is a workday.
	And then, but it's like, it's really, it's really fun.
	But yeah, if you want to swing through for, you know, Wednesday, the Tuesday night thing, or you're more than welcome to.
	Yeah, that'd be awesome.
	I don't want to invite now.
	I feel bad like I invited myself.
	You didn't, man.
	Drake invited you.
	Okay, great.
	Yeah, Jimmy John does, he was on this podcast, Jimmy John Liato.
	He's a member of 1230 Club.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, I met.
	So there was, I told my mother-in-law, she works for the NFL Honor, NFL Hall of Fame Health, and they have an event, and it's at the 1230 Club.
	It's there again this year.
	But this is funny.
	So they were auctioning off footballs, and there's like, I think there was like six to 10 NFL guys that were there.
	But one of the footballs that got auctioned off, he bought it and it was signed by Eddie George and George Kittle.
	Oh, cool.
	It's probably the only football ever signed by us two.
	But the fact that his last name is my first name, I just, you don't see that very often.
	But I thought that was pretty funny.
	But yeah, I met him at that event.
	It was pretty funny.
	Yeah, I guess that's kind of interesting, I guess.
	But it doesn't excite you too much.
	Yeah, it doesn't excite me too much, but it's not as long.
	I mean, I just George isn't a very common name.
	So when I see other people with it, it excites me.
	I guess that's true.
	And that's very fair, actually.
	And I shouldn't have said that.
	Thank you.
	I feel bad about myself.
	I don't want to do this anymore.
	Will you guys cut the entire thing?
	But is George still a pop?
	George isn't that popular of a name anymore, is it?
	No, it's old.
	Everyone's like, when I was George and I was eight years old, I was like, you're an old man.
	No, I'm not.
	I'm a real boy.
	People are like, fuck old people.
	Yeah, I'm like, leave me alone.
	I'm not 50. You're like, I'm in hospice.
	People are fucking giving.
	George is most popular in the Western history.
	It's ranked in the top 200 most popular names since its origin.
	Origin.
	I believe that.
	Both of my great-grandpas were named George, and that's why I'm named George.
	Tough.
	My parents told me that if I was a girl, they would have named me Georgia.
	I don't think that's a very good name.
	Nothing against those people that are named Georgia, just not for me.
	Yeah.
	I feel you.
	Or Eddie Georgia.
	That's insane.
	Oh, dude.
	Eddie Georgia.
	Dude's got two first names.
	George Kittle, man.
	Best of luck in your next season, man.
	Enjoy your time.
	Welcome back home.
	And enjoy your time.
	I'll see you at Lipscomb.
	And your off-season praise, baby.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	It's been a pleasure.
	This is really fun.
	Yeah, it's been fun, man.
	Thank you.
	Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of my life.
	I can feel it in my bones.

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