Casey Frey is a dancer, comedian, and creator. He talks with Theo about searching for inspiration, the Floyd Mayweather/Logan Paul fight, and feral children.
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He is probably one of the you know, he's hard to describe.
He's extremely funny, and I feel so lucky to have him here.
I feel like I caught a, you know, a special animal or something for a little while, and it's catch and release, obviously, but we have him here for a little bit of time.
If you're not familiar, check out his Instagram, Casey underscore Fry, F-R-E-Y underscore.
You'll thank me later.
Now you can just listen to us, get to know each other for the first time, sitting down with Mr. Casey Fry.
I need to set that parking brake and let myself unwind.
Shine that light on me.
I'll sit and tell you my stories.
Shine on me.
And I will find a song I've been singing just before.
And now I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train.
I'm okay, man.
You know, I'm alright.
I didn't go to the gym the past months.
I went to the beach yesterday.
You ever do that?
Kind of cover up for the gym by going to the beach?
I don't.
I usually just go for a little joggie or a little backflip or something.
You outdoorsman?
Not in LA.
I'm not.
I'm from the outdoors.
Oh yeah.
But um...
Yeah, I'm from...
Mendocino County.
Yeah.
There's a television show called that, right?
I don't know.
There's a sandwich shop.
Yeah.
And that's in California.
Oh, wow.
It's like two hours north of San Francisco.
Oh, fuck.
Casey Fry, man, thanks for coming, man.
Yeah, thanks for having me, man.
Yeah, you're like the crazy, you're like, I don't even know what you're, I think.
You know the thing?
Like it's like a drawing they gave you in school.
It has all the different...
Element.
Thank you, dude.
I feel like you should have your own element, man.
CF?
Yeah.
KC Fry, man.
That would be cool.
You're just so unique, man.
What did you get in high school?
Did you get like most capable or something?
Most double-jointed?
No.
What did you get?
Did you get something like that?
No, I was like, I don't know.
High school, I was like, I kind of just didn't fit in anywhere.
I was like, kind of just outcast.
Damn.
Sad story.
No, I wasn't like outcast.
I was actually just cool with like everybody a little bit.
Yeah.
But like, I didn't fit in fully into like any click.
Yeah.
So I kind of just bounced around.
And then, yeah, because you, I mean, dude, every, the stuff you put out, it's so like, I don't even know what's going on sometimes.
It's just so, I don't know what's, I don't know.
But it's awesome, man.
Thank you, dude.
Yeah, thanks for coming in today.
What have you been doing?
Um.
Just fucking...
Yeah, I like...
I've been trying to just figure out what I want to do next, kind of like where my inspiration is.
Yeah.
Do you feel sometimes like you might be terminally unique?
Like if something isn't absolutely unique, then you don't want to associate with it?
I'm not saying that because you're just so unique.
I wouldn't be surprised if that could be part of it.
Maybe, but not necessarily.
I mean, like, it doesn't have to be like some new fucking thing.
I do like to do that, though.
I think it's more of just like, I did what I wanted to do with social media.
Yeah.
And then now I'm just like, kind of like, I don't know what.
I mean, I'm working on a show, like writing a show to pitch with some buddies.
So now I guess that would be like the next step.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that fun?
Writing the show?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's cool.
It's kind of like grueling.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's cool.
Yeah, I feel that, man.
We got a question right here.
It came in from some guy right here.
Oh, no.
Hey, KCA Theo.
I'm at work right now, but I've watched both of you guys blow up over the past couple years.
And it'd be cool to know where you see yourself in the next 10 years.
Much love from Alabama.
Gang, gang.
Gang, baby.
He might be at a smoothie shop, too.
What kind of place do you have to have an apron at, you think?
Cinnabon, I think, they do apron.
Subway.
Subway and Annie's, but they do a blue apron.
I don't know what this guy could be on.
Home Depot.
Yeah.
Smarter, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
It could be a Home Depot.
This guy, he looks like a baker's assistant.
I could see that.
He does not seem like the top baker.
No offense, brother.
Maybe a queer baker?
I could see that.
I could see him.
Or a baker for queers.
Oh, yeah.
I could easily see him filling up a couple of He wanted to shut those people down.
Yeah.
What did he ask, though?
Yes.
Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
I guess what do you think in 10 years?
Like, what do you see, man?
Because you got so unique, it's almost like you could do what you want.
You just got to think of what you want to do, huh?
Yeah, I don't know.
I want to do movies and...
Like, Batman?
Yeah, Batman or Superman.
Shit like that.
I could see you being like Deadpool.
Could you really?
Yeah.
I really could.
Like a funny superhero or something?
Yeah, like that.
I could totally see it, man.
I don't know.
It's crazy.
Do you have like an acting background?
Do you do that kind of stuff?
I mean, I guess every you can if you want to.
It's not like you have to have a bunch of proof on the tube, you know?
I don't, I mean, I guess when I was like 18 or when I was younger, my brother, like, he's the one that got me into like editing and like making my own shit because he was super into it.
And then, uh, so I just like have always been making videos for like YouTube or whatever.
And yeah, so I don't have like a trained acting background or anything.
Is he pretty cool, your brother?
Yeah, he's cool.
He's blonde.
No way he is.
Damn.
Like a Viking.
Really blue-eyed, too?
Oh, damn.
You got blue eyes?
I have green eyes.
Oh, damn, boy.
So does he.
Put them back.
You, dude.
Oh, yeah.
Hazel green.
Yeah, man.
You got nice eyes, man.
Your brother's a good guy, huh?
Yeah, he's blonde.
Damn.
That's nice, bro.
No, he's cool.
My brother had blonde hair, you know?
No offense, man.
I know my brother sometimes listens, but.
You got siblings?
Yeah, I don't want my brother feeling bad about his hair or anything.
I come from that line of family where if we hear somebody say, oh, I wish somebody, you know, feel bad about it.
But, yeah, we got some siblings, man.
What was your brother?
What did he do?
What happened to him?
He right now he's just growing pot.
Oh, damn.
The whole family's growing pot.
Really?
Yeah.
Your whole family?
Yeah, we started our own little farm when it went legal.
We like started one.
I grew up on this piece of land, so we still have the piece of land.
And were you outdoors a lot and stuff then growing up?
Did y'all have cattle?
Did y'all have animals?
No, we didn't.
Prairie dogs?
What were you out there?
Probably a lot of prairie dogs, huh?
I grew up on the piece of land with a bunch of family, like my uncles and like my aunts.
Oh, wow.
And my dad's dad, he started a winery.
First organic winery in America.
No, y'all are rich?
No, that's the thing.
Damn.
He just worked for hourly, but he has shares in the company.
Is he a pretty hard worker, your dad?
Yeah, he's a fucking.
There it is.
Who's handsomer out of you and your dad and your brother?
Oh, me for sure.
I'm the hot one.
Damn, that's crazy.
Isn't it weird?
I feel like if you're the hot one, you go back in like Thanksgiving and stuff and everybody's like, oh, tell us what it's like.
Yeah, you know.
I mean, I don't know.
The highest anybody in my family's ever been is an eight.
Yeah.
You know, we come from a long line of eights and lower.
I feel like we're all pretty good looking, but like everyone's just always working in the sun and dirty.
Your family, you mean?
Yeah.
Is your mom is she visually cool, basically attractive, kind of?
Or what do you think?
Yeah.
That's cool.
She's got some real lookers.
Super hot.
Damn.
That's crazy, man.
It's kind of crazy whenever your mom like tells you.
Dude, my mom told me recently that when she was in high school, a lot of the girls would get pregnant their senior year because they were going to go right out and just start a family.
Really?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's what my mom did, yeah.
Really?
Pretty much.
Oh, that's awesome.
She had her first kid when she was 18. Oh, damn, huh?
Pretty nuts.
That is.
I couldn't even imagine that.
Like who I was when I was 18. I couldn't even imagine raising a kid.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Imagine every morning waking up and being like, oh, fuck, is my kid alive?
Poop in the bed.
Yeah.
And is my kid alive?
Is my kid alive to nurse it?
It's fucked up.
It'd be wild.
You know, in the future, they say that we're kind of in the last realm of where babies will be carried inside of a woman's body.
Oh, yeah, right?
Like lab babies.
Like, it'll just be done externally.
It almost, even for safety and everything.
I think it'll definitely happen.
Makes sense, right?
It's crazy, though, because one day there's going to be a kid who's going to be like, dude, my grandma had her mom inside, had my mom inside of her.
Is that insane?
Like they were animals.
Yeah, my mom always, she always trips out about that.
She's like, you guys were in me.
That's crazy.
Oh, really?
That's crazy.
Does your parents smoke a lot of pot?
Not really.
That's cool.
No one really does except for my brother.
One of my brothers does.
Oh, really?
You got a big string of brothers?
I have two older brothers, and then I have one younger sister.
Are you guys with the church or anything like that?
We're not with the church.
No, we didn't grow up like religious.
My mom, I think my mom did.
Yeah.
But then they kind of like, her dad like fell out of it.
He wasn't into it anymore.
Yeah.
Do you like living here in LA?
Not really.
Yeah.
I kind of.
Sometimes I'm just like, what am I doing here?
Yeah.
Do you?
I feel that.
I bought a home in Nashville about four months ago.
Oh, yeah.
How's that?
It's cool.
It's good.
It's nice.
You have to put up with certain things.
Like the other day I was getting gas and the guy at the gas station came out and he recognized me and he was nice.
And he told me that they bake their doughnuts and pizza fresh daily every day at the gas station.
And it was a blatant lie.
I've been in this gas station really.
30 times.
There's nothing.
There's not an oven.
Always stale.
Yeah, yeah.
There's just nothing.
There's no, that's not a possibility.
And he was like the assistant manager.
He's like, anytime you want to come in, you want us to, you know, we'll bake you something hot right there.
So did he think you were like a tourist?
He's trying to play like the Nashville hometown.
He just really shook me, man.
So you have to put up with stuff like that.
You just have to kind of play along with, you know, kind of fictional stuff.
And now every time I see him, I'm going to have to pretend it smells great.
It smells good, man.
Yeah.
So that kind of, little things like that, that took about 11 minutes out of my morning one day.
Does it feel like more grounded, though?
Or like just nicer?
With some things that are nice, like if somebody's like, Hey, you want to go do something?
I'll literally decide without like it's like, Oh, yeah, because everything you can be there in eight minutes to 15 minutes.
So it's like, Yeah, I'll do this for dinner, I'll go do this, I'll do you know.
I even feel like when you're here, like deciding on things, like I can't even decide in my head.
Like, someone asked me something, I was like, I should probably like work on something or yeah, like I can't just do shit.
I feel like I'm like stuck to like, whenever I'm here, I feel like I have to be doing something.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've always felt like at the airport, like every the whole city feels like the airport to me.
It's just like a, right?
And I have a room.
Eventually, I get to my room in the air, you know, it's like you just, it's all just feels like it's just such a hustle.
Like even just a little bit ago, I went and got this smoothie, you know, and I used to work at a smoothie shop, actually, but I went and got this smoothie, you know, because I taste other people's work.
Yeah.
And the parking spot, when I pull in, it just, it's one of those, it's like an LA spot.
It's like there's no, you try to get out, it couldn't get out.
So then I had to go and park down further.
It's just like, there's a real spot, but it's just people parking, can't get out of their cars.
Super compact.
Yeah, just that kind of, just little things where everything is just a hassle.
Yeah.
You know?
So when you see somebody finally take their life, you're like, oh, yeah.
Relief.
Yeah.
That guy, that guy shopped for smoothies at the same place.
Yeah, I don't know.
I could easily see that, man.
I've just been feeling like a lot recently, just like in my apartment.
I'm just like, what am I doing in my apartment?
I don't know.
I feel like everyone's doing like their thing.
It just doesn't feel like unless you have people I feel like almost from your hometown or like close friends or friends that don't work in social media or something.
Yeah.
It just feels like, I don't know, lonely or like, I don't know.
It's like a waste of time.
Oh, yeah, dude.
I definitely.
If Lonely had a volleyball team, I would be on it.
I know that.
You spiked the ball.
Yeah, I did have one, dude.
Yeah, it's a weird city, man.
You know, it's a weird place.
It's weird to figure out.
I think, especially these days, especially if you're a creator like you, and you realize you're able to do your own thing, then you kind of start to think, well, what do I want to do?
Where do I want to do it?
And those are great questions that come.
Like the idea of what LA is.
I'll take this out.
Sorry.
I'm like, this gum?
Hey, put it in that candle.
Really?
Yeah.
We got a question that came in right here for you.
Casey, Theo, Gang, Gang.
You know what it is.
Casey, this question is for you, man.
I honestly am wondering, like, all jokes aside, how do you process having simps?
Having people just, like, be fiending for you and drooling over you?
Because I feel like that, I see it all the time in your comments, and I feel like that would get to my head easily.
Oh, yeah.
So, tell me, man, how do you deal with that?
How do you process that knowing that like people find you attractive?
A lot of people find you attractive, especially people, like outside of the state, people you're never going to meet.
Does that like bother you?
I don't know, man.
Let me have highways.
Much love.
All love.
He doesn't believe in highways.
He doesn't believe in FDR, who made most of the highways in national parks.
Oh, shit.
Oh, there you go.
That's pretty good.
That second beat David did was pretty good.
Go back a little bit, Nick.
Go back when he does the dance at the beginning.
He hit the Y. The jogging man?
Yeah, that was really, really good.
That's unique.
So he is one of the people he just described, basically.
He said he lives out of state.
Exactly.
Also, do you hook up with any of them?
How do I deal with it?
I mean, you're certainly one of the most...
Yeah, I'm like the next.
I'm like, yeah.
I'm like a mirror image.
I mean, to him, he probably thinks he's better, but I don't see that.
There he is.
Lil Terio.
Oh, he's got a beard now.
He was.
You could tell he had no verbal skills also.
A lot of the videos they would try to talk, he had no...
He didn't need him.
He sure didn't.
He got buckets.
He got buckets.
He's got moves.
Yeah, man.
I'm sure you have a lot of fans.
Is it hard whenever you...
Like, what kind of gets you about it?
Like, is it, do you have a lot of free, like, people that are just trying to get at you?
Like, what's going on?
You dating?
What do you do?
I mean, what's going on, man?
How did this guy out?
I'm like, yeah, I'm in a relationship with a dude right now.
Oh, you really?
Yeah.
Oh, it's awesome, man.
Thank you.
Where'd you meet him at?
Pride.
No way.
No, I didn't.
I met him online.
Oh, damn.
The wrestling?
Wrestling, yeah.
We're wrestling online.
Uh-uh.
Yeah.
Butt wrestling.
Oh, damn.
That is the future, dude.
Dookie wrestling.
Crazy.
Is he a tall guy, or what kind of guy is he?
No, he's like a short little teddy, kind of like a little thick teddy boy.
Mixed.
Oh, he's mixed, huh?
Yeah, I'm into them teddy boys, you know.
Are you dating Lil Terio?
I like girls too, though.
Yeah, yeah, it's Lil Terio, yeah.
Yeah, I never dated a man, bro.
Yeah, I didn't either until recently.
Really?
Wow.
What was it about this guy that really took you to that next level?
I don't know.
I was just like on a bender and I was like, let's do it.
Yeah.
And then it turned out like he was cool as fuck.
We kind of just vibed out.
Damn.
Isn't that crazy?
It is crazy.
I would never...
I couldn't even imagine that, I think.
But I think it's...
You've been wanting late-onset homosexuality as a guest.
Oh, that's true.
We wanted a person who had late-onset homosexuality, but I'm talking 60s.
Oh, gosh.
Because when I was growing up, we'd see a lot of drug-induced gay men.
Oh, yeah.
And we would see a lot of regular gay.
But we never saw, like, there wasn't a lot of, when I was growing up, a lot of those just the kind of party boys, you know.
But this sounds like maybe drug-induced.
This?
Your relationship.
Oh, maybe.
Maybe the beginning of it was.
Yeah.
And sometimes that's the best way to get it to meet somebody really is on drugs.
That's true.
There's so many people you wouldn't even meet if you weren't on drugs, dude.
I think.
Anyway, I have no idea.
Namaste.
Namaste.
Here's another question that came in right now from somebody right here.
This fellow right here is Christian.
What's up, Theo?
What's up, Casey?
My name's Peyton.
I'm 22 and I'm from Plano, Texas.
My question is, I guess for both of y'all, being funny and being able to navigate social situations with humor and comedy is a skill, but do you think it's more acquired through life experiences?
Or do you think more people are born with it than anything else?
Also, Casey, how do you do that shit with your back, dog?
That little lift you do.
Come on, let's see it.
Don't be shy.
gang.
God, man, you got a lot of I've never realized.
I'm starting to look at them a little differently since you said that.
I'm starting to look at them.
The in-betweeners.
With a mild erotic, not eroticism, but just not knowing.
Yeah, what do you think for this gentleman here?
Wait, what did you ask, sir?
Do you think about humor?
Like, do you think it's something that's kind of like learned along the way?
Do you think it's something that's innate in you?
What do you think, man?
I don't know.
For me, I've always, like...
Really?
Yeah.
I like force myself to get good at like filming like recording myself and shit like I was like horribly like Were you in a school play?
I was, yeah.
That's kind of how I broke out of my show.
Not in school play, but like I did theater for a little bit when I was like 18. Adult theater.
Adult theater, yeah.
Wow, that's wow.
Through the college or through a...
Through a community group, huh?
Was it through a community group?
I don't know.
What does that mean?
Is that a community group?
Like, was it through a college or was it through like you sign up for the city hall or what?
No, it was just like a local theater, like the local theater.
What play were you guys doing?
We did a couple.
We did Bye-Bye Birdie.
We did Wizard of Oz.
Oh, yeah.
Newsies, have you ever seen that?
It's pretty good.
I heard of it.
But yeah, I mean, I've always been obsessed with comedy, like Jim Carrey and shit.
When I would watch when I was younger, I was just literally wanted.
That's all I wanted to do.
Oh, wow.
Were you the funny one in your family, or was there other people that's funny?
Everyone's like, has a good sense of humor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think for me, for being funny was a way when I knew when I was young that I knew other people I could control how they were feeling.
Oh, yeah.
Totally.
I needed to control how they were feeling so I could be okay kind of sort of thing if I real get kind of emo about it or deep about it.
But so then I would have to make people laugh and it made me feel like, okay, if they're laughing, they're you know where they're at.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
But yeah, I think I use that more like when I started to kind of break out of my show, like just to deal with like social anxiety.
I would like just be more outgoing than like I actually was.
Oh damn, that seems hard to do.
Yeah, it was.
It's like being physically humorous is hard, I find.
Yeah.
That takes more bravery, I feel like I was more like were, I just like talking about stuff or thinking.
Yeah.
But what about the dance movies?
Did you have a dance teacher growing up?
I had like a couple.
I didn't like.
Are you a Jew?
You're not like a Juilliard dancer or anything?
No.
There's like a rumor about that.
That's what happened, but no.
No, I just like went to dance classes at the local.
There's just like this local dance place.
And was there a lot of males in there or no?
It was like mixed.
A lot of white.
It was like whites, basically whites.
Oh, yeah.
So it wasn't that most of the time.
It wasn't a lot of stuff.
That's true.
It wasn't a lot of stuff that I wanted.
I'd be watching stuff on YouTube.
The skill level that I wanted to be teached wasn't teached as much in the town I was in.
But it's still, I mean, I guess it worked as much as it did.
Yeah.
But I kind of just have always been dancing.
That was my first thing.
Will you hit the nightclub and dance and stuff like that?
Will you hit the disco tech?
Sometimes, yeah.
But like where I'm from, there's no clubs or like anything.
Damn.
Nothing like that.
Would you guys do raves or anything?
Outdoor drugs?
Was there stuff like that?
Yeah, in like later years, maybe like 16 to like or like 17 to like 20 something.
When did you come out to LA?
Festivals for just every year.
Yeah.
Maybe like seven years ago, five years ago?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was just doing dance at that point.
I was like in the industry just doing dance.
Really?
She would go to dance auditions and stuff.
Yeah, it sucked.
Fucking hated it.
Yeah.
Like what was it like when you go to that?
It's just super competitive and like I just didn't fit in with like the personality that like dancers in the industry have I guess like I don't know it all felt all felt like in there all in like the same I don't know like personality window or like there's like this air about it that like would just make me uncomfortable.
Oh, yeah.
And if you go do a dance, do you have to dance by yourself when you go in there?
You have to dance with other people?
Do they put you in a little group and you all dance?
You have to learn the dance in advance?
It depends.
Like, you usually go in and either they'll have you like freestyle or they'll teach you a dance and you have to do it.
There's also that, too.
I wasn't good at picking up a choreo that quick.
Yeah.
Like, people pick it up so fucking quick.
Huh.
So, so, so that kind of did it.
You didn't really do, did you end up in any like commercials or shows or anything for the dance?
Yeah, I got a couple gigs.
I got like, I was in a Just Dance commercial for that video game.
Just dance.
And they, like, shaved me up and like put hella makeup on me.
Ooh, damn, huh?
Yeah, I look like Edward from fucking that vampire movie.
Yeah, Edward.
Colin?
Yeah.
From Vampire Die.
Vampires Tonight or whatever, what they call it.
Yeah, Vampires Tonight.
Twilight.
You do look like him.
Huh.
Oh, that's me.
That man's always looked very blood deprived, though.
You know, like I'd call six pints would be his nickname.
He's running a little shy.
Who's that?
Yeah, who is that?
Edward Snowden.
Oh, yeah, that is Edward Snowden.
Wow.
Well, what do we got in the news, Nick?
Let's get into it.
I was wondering, are there like other creators that you're fans of that you watch their stuff?
Or, yeah.
It seems like you follow Theo.
Do you think his shit?
Or also the traditional YouTubers, are there like people, do you watch them?
Right now, not really.
I'm kind of like, I don't know.
I almost feel like bored of the internet almost.
Just like in general.
Not even the content, just like the internet as an invention or whatever.
Yeah.
I'm bored of it.
I don't know.
Well, there's something not satisfying about it.
Yeah, it's not satisfying anymore at all.
It just feels bad.
And I feel like we got so dosed with it, especially during the pandemic or whatever, because everybody, there was not as much to do actively.
Yeah.
And yeah, I think some of it's getting, it's hard to find stuff that's original.
Things that were original are starting to wear off.
Yeah.
Part of that's life too, dude.
You get a little older and you're like, damn, I've done this 19 times, you know?
Even if the first time you did it was, it was something nobody else had ever, you know, it was like.
Totally.
So that's interesting.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just feel, I don't know.
I just feel uninspired kind of right now.
I don't know why.
Yeah.
Well, you know, when the pandemic started, I didn't even, I felt like, okay, I don't have to do stand-up comedy anymore.
I don't even know if I'm going to be a comedian anymore.
Really?
Yeah.
Like, this thing happened in my head.
It was like, did I ever even, you know, like.
Yeah.
Did I ever want to just get started on it so long ago and it kept going and there was nothing never anything that's like, hey.
I kind of, yeah, went through that too.
I felt like I was just like pushing myself to do this thing I wanted to do.
It was like super fucking hard.
And then like I did it and then like I don't have to do it anymore.
I just feel like kind of like, damn, what do I just feel like just chilling by the pond or something?
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Yeah, let's get a little bit of news.
What do we got there, Nick?
Tesla filed for a trademark to enter the restaurant business.
They're planning on having delivery pop-up shops and Elon put this tweet out.
Gonna put an old school drive-in roller skates and rock and roll and rock restaurant at one of the new Spesla supercharger locations in LA.
I don't even know what that means.
Yeah, Elon's turning into the fucking white LeVar ball kind of thing.
He's like all these.
He's like tweets like Trump, though.
He's just up all night, like tweeting miscellaneous, like weird words that shouldn't even be together.
It's just, kids don't even care.
Kids are fucking killing their parents if they're not Elon Musk.
It's just.
Sometimes I feel like he's not even doing any of that shit that he says.
Yeah, well, some of it sounds absolutely impossible to do.
He's like, we're going to go to Mars.
Dude, you can't even drive through Memphis safely.
I would love to see him land one of these things safely in Memphis.
The second he has a car that doesn't have a driver, you know how many fucking gunslinging fucking maniacs are going to shoot that bitch off and rolls in the street?
Like, I just don't know if the ideology is going to, or the ideality is going to fit in with reality, you know?
Yeah, where is all this shit?
Some of it's bizarre, huh?
I think he hooked himself up to Neuralink, and now he's just a computer, and he, like, does whatever he thinks is going to be the most newsworthy thing.
I could see that.
Are you going to do that?
Neuralink thing?
Is that where you put a chip in you?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't want to miss out, but I don't want to be on the same, like, it's like turn left and then everybody moves, you know.
Yeah.
It's already like that with like ways and shit, you know?
Right.
Everyone on the same thing.
Yeah, you have like 90 people driving through a fucking abandoned neighborhood.
Get to a Kmart.
It's like, just a, you know, it's just crazy.
And you know that all the traffic's now following this thing.
So it's like, I don't even know if this is helpful anymore.
Right.
Because they're just resending traffic, you know?
Yeah, the thing for me, like, I don't know, it kind of just doesn't seem like it's a good idea yet.
Like, yeah.
It's like we're like on our way to becoming like another thing, like another entity.
Like, we don't even know like ourselves.
We don't like, I don't know.
Like, we have like mental illness still, like, in ourselves.
Yeah.
We're going to become like a robot.
It's like it's going to get worse, like way worse.
Yeah, you're going to have mental illness robots.
I know.
No.
I'm lonely.
Yeah.
there'd be like seven different buttons to make a mental illness sound I could go for some nature.
And they just set you in nature then?
I made a mistake.
I made a mistake.
Dude.
Dude, I don't know what's going to happen, man.
You know, I think about that too sometimes.
I think sometimes the things we made, it's like they're not good for us.
Why do we keep using them?
Like, Twitter is not good for humanity.
How is it if somebody made something that was like ruining everybody's lives, you know, it just seems like, I don't know why things, some things are illegal if they're bad for you, but other things aren't.
Yeah.
Like why some technology isn't illegal?
It's almost like, what is everyone going to do now if they're not on Twitter?
Like, I feel like it's like, it's too, like, what is there to do?
Especially if you live in a city.
Like, what are you going to do?
Learn something, dude.
Make a kite.
Do whatever we used to do.
Do painting.
Do outdoors activity.
Get some stuff for your porch.
So for your pores?
Porch.
Do stuff.
No one has porches, though.
They have like TVs and couches.
And like water filters.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I don't know, man.
We got this story right here.
What do we got, Nick?
More robot news.
McDonald's is using voice automated...
I'm horny.
Is using voice-automated ordering at 10 Chicago restaurants.
They're trying it out.
They say currently it has an 85% success rate, and it's able to take 80% of orders.
That seems like, I wonder what the success rate is of the actual current teller that's there.
But the person that runs it, it's like a Bill Belichick that's at the fucking, that window.
There's that one fucking reliable person, and they're usually the one with the headset, and they're running it all.
Yeah.
And they'll let you add a coffee at the end if you didn't get it in your order.
So they're using automated ordering?
Yeah.
So then there's not going to be anybody working there anymore.
Yeah.
And they're also Been evaluating potential ways to automate its restaurant equipment, like the fryers and grills.
It's going to be basically a bulletproof place that sells sandwiches, man.
It's like Red Burger.
It's bittersweet.
Could you ever have you ever worked at a place like that?
Do you ever do any restaurant work?
Be honest with me.
No, I haven't.
Really?
No, my dad's dad started a winery.
And so I worked there when I was a kid for most of my life.
Was it fun?
No.
I mean, it was whatever.
It was cool.
What would you guys do there?
Would you guys like labor?
So they had the grapes in the field and you guys would you like fertilize and all of that?
Would you guys like handle the crop part or you would handle what?
I would do like we would like plant I would like help plant the grapes sometimes.
Oh, yeah.
Or like boxing.
Putting the wines in the boxes and closing the boxes and shit.
Yeah.
Or drink it.
Drink the wine.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's all stuff I would probably do.
Yeah.
I think anyway, I guess, if I were there, if I were another part of y'all's family.
Yeah, I could see you being a part of the family.
Thanks.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, we do a lot of outdoorsy stuff or anything like that.
I worked on a farm actually for a while that was corn, soybeans, cotton, Milo.
And that was fun, dude.
That was really fun.
Where was that?
It was in Louisiana, Mississippi on the border.
Nice.
Or where Jerry Lee Lewis is from.
Oh, damn.
He sang that song Great Balls of Fire.
Was he there?
His daughter does a lot of the songs because they just wheel him out for like two or three hits.
What did you do?
When did you move out here?
14 years ago.
What did you do before?
Stand-up popped off.
Nothing.
Oh, I did stand-up for a long time.
It didn't pop off till about four years ago.
Or just money-wise, were you working anywhere?
Mm-hmm, I worked at this place that was a, And they had a frosty machine or something, made the ice-blended tequila.
Margarita.
Margarita.
Thanks.
And you, I broke the machine the first day, so I had to work for like six months to pay for the machine.
Really?
Actually?
Yeah.
It was horrible, man.
But I learned a little bit of good Spanish, and I made a couple of friends there.
I've been in Puerto Villarta one.
A couple times.
You worked in Puerto Villarta?
No, I've been there.
Yeah.
My dad took me there when I was little.
Really?
There's pictures of me and him in a pool.
No way.
Yeah, it's real beautiful.
They have like nice fences and stuff in the background.
Well, do you think you'll be back on the family winery one day or that's a fucking that's done?
I don't know.
I was like going back and forth.
I was going back and forth a lot last couple years to like get the ganja thing started.
Oh, yeah?
And but it was just taking up like a lot of time.
But then I'm down here and I'm like, I have a lot of time.
Yeah.
I haven't worked at the winery for a little bit.
Because your family sounds kind of entrepreneurial, huh?
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, definitely.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, they just moved down and I think they moved from New York, my dad's dad and his mom.
And they fucking popped out 12 employees.
They have 12 kids?
Your parents do?
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
My dad has 11 siblings.
Isn't it wild how families used to have like that, man?
Yeah, I mean, it was like for a reason, right?
It was like to help them.
Yeah, just help around the house, help with a job.
But somebody would die in the winter.
Somebody died?
Yeah, one of the weaker kids.
That's crazy.
Just thinking like, oh, it's getting close to, you know, come September, you're like, who's going to die?
Yeah.
I'm surprised they're all still alive.
I'm surprised there's not more feral children out there.
You ever seen some of those YouTube videos?
Feral?
Feral?
Yeah.
Feral.
No, I would love to see one.
There's one, Feral Child Drinks Water.
Oh, yeah.
If you can see that, Nick, on YouTube, they might have took it down.
They get rid of it every now and then.
There you go.
Feral.
What does that even mean?
It means by animals or that's it, Nick.
There's a second.
There's that moment where you see the girl drinking her.
Yeah, it's her where you see her drinking the water out of the space.
It's an extraordinary story.
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For the next six years, from the age of three to eight, the kennel was Oxana's home and the dogs her family.
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You should go do.
Oh, here's your drink of water.
But, bro, that's unbelievable that a child was raised in the wild.
I think you used to have more of that.
You used to have more of, like, you keep the kid that's not doing well in the shed.
Whoa.
Like when I was growing up, we had some, That's the famous thing right there.
So how was she raised in the wild?
Like, what was in her?
I mean, or does she feel like she's a dog inside?
Is it one of those kids?
No, I think she was raised by the dogs, I think.
Like, fed her?
Yeah, I guess.
There's another video of her actually feeding off of the mother's body, which is insane.
The dog?
Of, yes, off of a dog.
Oh, what?
Off her teeth?
Yeah.
So it's just, you know.
But this goes back to you're giving these people like Twitter, you know?
It's like, When do we shut it down?
When is it too much?
When is it enough?
You know?
Yeah, these are the comments that hit you.
Yeah.
So, but very little children.
Yeah.
Here's a question that came in right here.
Dan Bilzarian.
Leo.
I love your podcast with Brendan.
I know that you're big on fighting.
Casey, I know you were at the trailer event for Jake Paul, so I wanted to see kind of what you guys' thoughts or predictions were for this weekend, Logan Paul and Floyd Manweather fight.
Just wanted to see if you guys had any thoughts or if you wanted to weigh in on it.
All right.
Love you guys.
Thanks, man.
Love you.
What do you think, man?
You went to the other one?
Yeah, I went to Jake's fight.
You see Sugar Sean there?
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, we hung out for a sec.
I almost went.
He's a cool guy.
Yeah, he's really cool, man.
He's a neat guy.
Yeah, shit.
Fuck.
Logan Paul, Nayweather?
I mean, it's a dream come true.
Yeah.
I saw Logan there, actually.
Yeah.
I talked to him for a second.
He was nice.
What was that event like?
Theo compared it to a Jacksonville nightclub.
All trailer events.
Oh, yeah.
I could see that.
Yeah.
I've been into some Jacksonville nightclubs that it was interesting.
A lot of underage people there.
Just a lot.
Yeah, just like.
The lighting is all.
Just bizarre, kind of.
But fun.
Yeah, it was like that kind of bizarre performance.
That's what it was.
It was like every one of the biggest TikTokers.
We were just hanging out with them.
I was kind of like, I don't know.
It's kind of weird, but he's cool.
Do you dig, like, is it fun for you to go do like an event, like go to like a big thing like that?
Do you mind that kind of stuff?
Or you do that kind of stuff all the time?
Like, do you like to not be doing stuff like that?
Yeah.
To go sometimes.
Will you go to the next one?
Will you go to this Logan one?
No, I'm going to go.
I'm going to be home.
I'm going home tomorrow.
Nice.
Might watch it on TV, though.
Are you going to watch it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll probably watch it.
I think that I feel like unless I just question, is it some money play by the two of them?
That's what I question.
I think it is.
They stuck the whole thing, right?
Right, so are they gonna make it like a, So he's not going to take a loss.
But it's an exhibition.
I don't know if it counts on his record.
I read that they're not even going to count.
They're not even going to announce a winner.
Yeah.
Really?
If it goes to decision.
And they're just going to fight, but you can knock somebody out.
But they're not going to announce that they want.
Huh.
I wonder what this all means then.
It's fucking stupid.
Yeah, it's fucking money.
But that's where we are.
I think it's like it's becoming kind of ancient Rome, you know, in this weird way.
I want to see somebody fight an animal.
Yeah, me too.
Logan versus a bear or something?
Yeah, or Logan versus fucking 20 fucking lizards, you know, like, or just something.
I think what's going to happen is I would assume that Floyd is going to win.
I just...
You're talking about one of...
Yeah, I mean, he'll probably win, I guess.
But, like, it would be cool if Logan just knocked him out.
Oh, I think it would be fascinating if he did.
If he did, the whole world is going to change.
Like, that's what I think we have to be ready for.
If he fucking knocks him out.
There's going to be some new genders afoot for sure.
Yeah, dude, there's going to be some race ride.
I mean, there's going to be all kinds of stuff that's going to happen.
Yeah, I could see, like, a race ride or something.
Yeah, yeah.
people yelling he's guilty and just burning down St. Louis um um But I think, what do you see it happening?
How do you even see the fight going, do you think?
I feel like...
I just wish that there was more of a story between them.
Like they'd gone to prison together or something, or they had like a history, or they had one of them's parents had dated or something, or one of their moms had died in a car fire.
Or Floyd's dad.
Yeah, or just some way.
And there was some like, yeah.
saved Logan or something from...
Yeah, like I wish somebody just had like a...
From a whale?
Yeah, yeah.
Or something wacky.
I don't know.
Yeah, I just wish there's just more story to it.
Floyd versus diarrhea would be cool.
Oh.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I think he could beat diarrhea.
But yeah, I don't know, man.
I think, like, maybe win, but Logan probably throwing, trying to just knock him out, I guess.
Like, he'll probably try to get close to him and just see if he can hit him with something.
Yeah, and Floyd, how old is Floyd now?
Like, 68. No.
In feral years?
Oh, yeah, I could see him.
44. And Logan's, what, 26?
26. Yeah.
So, look, you're going to learn a lot.
I think people are going to learn a lot.
What do you think happens, Nick?
I think Floyd knocks him out.
I mean, if Logan...
Late.
Floyd will knock him out late, like round seven, eight.
He'll just toy with him, similar to the Connor fight.
He'll get tired and then he'll knock him out.
If Logan can't beat KSI, like, definitively.
Does Floyd, is he known for knocking people out?
Or is he like just...
It was like the same thing.
He just kind of toyed with him, and then Connor got tired and knocked him out in the 10th or 11th.
I forgot about that.
For years, he hasn't been knocking people out, though.
Like decision Canelo, decision.
I think he knows.
Yeah, he's just like a good boxer, right?
Yeah.
He's just so fast.
Dodge and hit.
Yeah, I think it'll be interesting.
I think, I just wonder if there's another deal going on behind the scene between them where it's like, hey, let it go at least five rounds.
You know, I don't know.
But it'd be exciting.
It'll be interesting to see.
Fuck it.
That's going to be weird when that bell rings, though, and you're Logan.
You're walking across the ring.
I know.
I'm excited.
I'm going to watch it back home probably.
Big screen outdoors.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
You guys do it like that, huh?
Yeah.
Drag out the Ethernet cord.
Watching the ganja patch.
Damn, that's beautiful, man.
Did you have a high school sweetheart?
No.
I was just kind of like running around.
Did you ever learn magic or anything like that?
I did.
I could tell you.
I didn't see it.
You could see it?
Yeah.
The best?
A little bit.
Yeah, I did magic for a little bit.
Damn, bro.
Damn.
That's comedian's arch nemesis.
I know.
Yeah, I did it.
I was kind of good, too.
I could see you doing good magic.
Yeah, I have good hands for it.
Liquid hands.
But yeah, I did that for a little bit.
Tricked my family a couple times.
And then I fell off.
Got in a dance, you know?
Yeah.
That's a weird day when you're leaving the magic scene.
It's hard.
It's dark.
It's a dark night of the soul.
You're walking off and people are like just holding out cards for you.
I can't do it anymore.
Yeah.
Guys, I got to be in reality, man.
Yeah, pulling something out of a hat.
Yeah, at a certain point, it was just like, just wasn't real enough for me.
Oh, yeah, man.
It's heartbreaking.
Some of the shit that I've seen people believe.
You know, David Bullying guy keeps killing himself.
Yeah, he's not doing magic ever.
Yeah, and then he molested some girl.
That's what's crazy.
He's never done magic.
Yeah, he's like, surprised I'm in your 11-year-old vagina or whatever.
Sorry, it wasn't 11. It was 17, my bad.
But also, it was also legal, I think.
Did he get involved in something like that?
Well, also, he said he made her disappear, so it was technically an international air.
She's in Wyoming now.
It's legal.
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What was that question that came in from this fella, Nick?
What up, Theo?
What up, Casey?
It's Zach down here near Savannah, Georgia.
Theo, looking forward to seeing you in Charleston.
Can't wait for that.
All right, I got something for you, boys.
So for the rest of your life, you can continue to listen to music, whatever you want to, but you can only dance to one song.
What's that song going to be?
Gang.
Gang, baby.
Probably.
You're the foot, man.
What do you think?
What do you, yeah, where do you get stuck at?
What would I dance to for the rest of my life?
Yeah.
Damn, that's really hard.
Maybe some, uh...
It would have to be something that wouldn't drive you crazy after a while.
Oh, that's a good...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um...
*clap*
Probably some Spice Girls or something.
If I hear that song, tell me what you want.
Yeah, you can say it.
Yo, tell me what I want.
If I hear more times in my life, I'm going to fucking kill my sister.
We've been struggling with drugs and alcohol anyway.
But I would go that song, Why Can't We Be Friends?
Because I'm thinking like if you get older and you still have to be dancing, you're not going to be able to dance that good.
You still have to.
I don't know if this is.
Maybe some reggae or something.
Yeah, reggae.
I feel like why can't we be friends would drive me crazy after a while.
Just be like, yeah, I don't know.
Oh, definitely.
You're right.
You're right.
I think reggae, then you get some urban, you know, you get a little bit more mixed.
People would show up.
Somebody would blow some fucking weed smoke in the air, and suddenly it's a new game.
Yeah, you get both sides with reggae.
Yeah, you do.
Dreads on both sides.
But I'm going to say this, man.
You get some busted-looking chicks with reggae, bro.
Oh, yeah.
All tied up.
Knots in the head.
Yeah.
I was going to go to Reggae Fest in Trimpelo, Wisconsin.
Were you?
Tomorrow, yeah.
Loose fucking.
You'd be one of the best-looking women there.
You ever do any Ren fair?
I could see you doing that.
You ever do any Ren fair?
Renaissance?
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
Have you?
Yeah, I think you just had that look for a lot of things.
Would you say that, Nick?
Thanks, dude.
So I could see you doing a little bit of Ren Fair or something.
No, never got into it.
Oh, this is David Blaine?
Yeah, this is all his.
Not eating for 44 days.
Oh, that's a diet.
Cool.
Standing on a pole for 35 hours, that's actually pretty hard to do, I bet.
63 hours.
I held my breath underwater for four minutes.
Did you really?
Yeah.
I learned how to do it.
You can learn how to do it.
There's tutorials.
I heard you could breathe underwater if you learn how to do that breathing technique that people who play horns use.
Wim ho?
No, like they breathe through your nose at the same time as you breathe out.
You ever heard of that?
It's big in the gay community, man.
Oh, my God.
Is it really?
No, that's a real thing, though.
You breathe into your nose and you breathe out at the same time.
Oh, damn.
I think it is.
Is that not true?
I believe you.
I believe you.
I did this fast in Hawaii, and the guy there said he saw somebody do it in a pool, but I don't know if he's telling truth.
Was the main guy selling DMT?
Was it in Maui?
I don't remember.
It wasn't Maui.
It was a big island, I think.
Is that Maui?
No.
Have you had any DMT experiences?
I haven't.
I think I might...
Might crack off.
I think so, yeah.
I think I might.
Yeah, I could see you maybe wanting to be in a good emotional space 100% lock.
Yeah, I want to be.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I want to just be not afraid of that at all.
You've done it, right?
Yeah, I did.
I met a man at a smoothie shop, actually, in Maui.
Shaman.
Went over to his house.
His wife was running childcare out of there also.
And next thing you know, dude, I was freaking traveling through Mother Earth's vagina, baby.
You know what I'm saying?
I was on that Starship Enterprise, dude.
It's crazy.
It launches.
Everything else just goes away.
And the only parts of you that's ever been alive, this little part of you that thinks, that you imagine stuff with, that's right here, that just goes.
And you're like, oh, this makes perfect sense.
But that was kind of crazy.
Then we tried it one more time in a park, and I got scared because there was people walking by and somebody recognized me.
And I was like, he had me like sitting out.
I'm not Theo right now.
Yeah, he had me sitting on this busy trail and I was like, this is diced.
That's a smoothie shop shaman for you.
Yeah, I should have probably at least got into the yellow pages and found out who was who.
That's crazy.
Have you ever done Toad?
No, I haven't.
I just did that ketamine therapy.
How was that?
You know, it was really, it was unbelievable.
Like, you'd kind of go into this video game experience.
It was kind of trippy.
Yeah.
It was nice for some trauma.
Like, I think I had some childhood trauma things that we kind of addressed in it.
Like, I got to see my mom when she was a kid.
I got to see myself when I was a kid.
So that kind of stuff's pretty cool, you know?
And communicate with yourself.
Do you feel like you got something out of it?
Like it helped you?
Yeah, I think it took a little bit of pressure off the tank, you know?
I've thought about that.
I want to try that.
I've tried ketamine, but like I think I start to panic when I like the body feeling that it makes you feel like.
Yeah.
Because it like sedates your body, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Does it when they do the genius?
And you literally are in a chair, and then you're in a video game.
And then you're a cryptocurrency.
I mean, I became everything you could be.
You know, I became the tail of a kite.
I became someone's breath that was going through the air.
I became part of a video game.
I was behind the scenes of the universe.
All that kind of just regular shit, you know?
Yeah, standard.
Yeah.
And then at one point I got lodged in the corner of the universe and I got stuck kind of.
That was a little...
That's diced out.
Yeah, I would try it.
Yeah, you'd be good at it.
You think?
I think so.
Dancing through.
Yeah, I just think it's a different thing.
I don't think it's helpful for long-term to long-term help you, but I think for some type of trauma stuff, I think that the ketamine therapy is good.
I don't see it as a long-term solution for feeling good, though.
Right.
It clears you up enough to work on your shit.
Yeah.
I think it just helps.
Or change your patterns or something.
Yeah, I think it just helps.
It's just like a...
For me, anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mushrooms have like helped me a lot.
Really?
Yeah, I think more than anything.
I don't think this meant anything else.
It's like after I did it or whatever, a notch is taken off.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, okay, that piece of whatever I was tripping out about or that algorithm that I was running on is gone.
And I was like, just tripping out about nothing.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's helped me a lot.
Did you do Toad?
No, I haven't.
My buddy was telling me about it.
He's like, I'm telling everyone about it, man.
You got to do it.
Yeah, that guy.
That guy lives for about two years.
You actually reminded me of him a little bit.
Yeah, he has a similar personality.
His name is Jonathan.
Huh.
Tucker.
Oh, Tucker.
He's a man.
He's cool.
He is?
Yeah.
And does he own the toads?
where do you get them?
Can you bring up one of them, man?
I want to get an idea of this.
I've never even heard of this.
I don't know where he goes.
I don't know if I should have said his name either.
He didn't.
Oh, yeah, he did.
Tuck.
Oh, yeah, Tucker, but I won't say it again.
Tubber.
Tubber.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like Tubman.
And look, this is it, that DMT toad, huh?
God.
Is that him?
I think so.
Yeah, that might be him.
Yeah, that was my friend.
How did you get that?
Trendy new psychedelic toad.
Venom takes the U.S. by storm.
Yeah, it's not trendy until you can have it in like a USB drive or something.
Yeah, I want to have it in like a collar.
You could probably do that at some point.
You could probably have the drugs, little USB drive, put it right into your head.
It's an intense experience that in most cases doing it at a party isn't safe.
It's not recreational.
If people get dosed too high, they can white out and disassociate from their mind and body.
I like that.
Yeah.
I mean, look who has it.
A toad has it.
You know, like, when have you seen a toad do anything fucking amazing?
Besides eat flies and get killed for their legs, dude.
I mean, it's really, that's a.
I don't really see that, you know.
Is this the same guy?
It could be.
We have one guy who just sends him in every single day.
Yeah, he just shaves.
You have a lot of cool shit in here.
Oh, thanks, man.
Yeah, a lot of people gave us some really nice gifts over the years.
Some plush toys.
All kind of stuff.
I mean, he feels a little egomaniacal.
Yeah.
But it's just stuff that people sent.
You know?
That's the Louisiana State flag.
Gift from Nick.
Yeah, gift from Nick.
Which one?
This one is, right?
No, the Louisiana State flag.
Oh, yeah, that is from Nick.
Christmas 2018.
There you go.
There she is.
Good times, man.
Here's this guy.
What's this guy got to say?
Hey, what's up, guys?
Nolan from California.
Theo, love the show.
Gang Gang Baby.
Casey, this question's for you.
What's something that you like to do when you're feeling down or you're feeling unmotivated?
Thanks again, guys.
Gang Gang Baby.
Amen.
Down or unmotivated?
Shit.
Fuck.
Do anything to get out of your rut?
Like, if you're in a weird space, or you just kind of ride it?
Or are you like one of those people that kind of rides the sadness, like a smile?
My son, if I'm like in like a weird rut, but I don't know.
I don't really take them, I guess, if I'm like sad or like I think if I'm in more like a creative rut or just like feeling like I'm like kind of just like neutral.
Yeah.
I'll take them and like respice my shit.
But yeah, I don't know.
Take a nap.
Oh, yeah.
Exercise.
Exercise is huge.
I've lost my teeth.
Yeah.
Drink some water.
Yeah.
Hum.
Oh, humming?
I forget about humming.
You should try that more.
That's my brother.
Viking.
Yo, what up, Casey?
It's Eddie from Winstead, Minnesota.
Daddy?
Yeah.
Yeah, I got a question for Casey.
Do you smoke weed or do drugs before you film videos?
You're fucking funny, man.
And also, I love you, Theovine.
Keep it real.
You're the best.
PTL, my man.
Praise the Lord, baby.
That's a good question.
Do you have to be drugged up to do anything or you have to be in a safe, in a clear head to be creative?
No, I've definitely done both.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
There was a while where I was drinking a lot, but I don't have to be drunk or high to make something.
I've definitely made videos that are popped off sober.
Do you know, like, or is it like, is it just things that make you laugh?
Like, how do you know when something's going to be?
Yeah, kind of.
You can, I don't know.
Sometimes you can't tell.
Like, yeah, sometimes it's something where it's just like, I'll see something or I'm in like a mood.
And I'll just record it with that personality or like vibe or whatever.
Yeah.
And then it kind of shit just comes out.
Amen.
And then like, if I hit it, then I'll just upload it.
But yeah.
I don't know.
You record a lot of stuff that you don't end up uploading?
Yeah, definitely.
Oh, really?
You should release a film of that.
Dude, there's some weird, definitely some weird little eddies in there.
But dog, if you made a film of that 40 minutes on Apple, I'd pay $10 and watch that one night with a friend.
Dude, I don't know.
Or not even a friend watch it with some people I don't know.
You might look insane.
Yeah, oh yeah.
I would look insane.
That would be so perfect.
So crazy.
I've definitely been strung out trying to make a video like back in the day.
Really?
Just been on a bender or something?
Yeah.
Oh, that's the worst.
So strung out and trying to just keep up.
That's the worst, dude.
Some shit I would watch the next day and I came and watch it.
I'm just like, dude, it's dark.
What was your drug of choice if you were really partying cocaine?
No, I never really got into cocaine.
I just get too anxious for it.
Oh, yeah.
I kind of wish I did.
Nah, you know, I kind of wish I did, but I obviously not.
I don't know if anybody, there's only like seven or eight people that can do it, like, where they do it, and then they are, everything's great, and they're like on a battleship, and they're doing good, you know, with a wife.
Studying.
Those are Greek people, I think.
They're not.
Most people, it's not.
It's just the opposite of glue.
You know?
Shit's falling apart.
Yeah.
It kind of just takes the connection out of a lot of stuff.
Yeah, I was into drinking a lot.
Yeah.
Yep.
Just a lot.
Really?
Just going to town, yeah.
Would you drink beer or ale or will you decide or you drink whiskey?
Or kind of mix it up.
Oh, damn.
All right.
Do a little gin, maybe for like a week or two.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
And maybe just beer.
I love that.
And would you drink at home with your friends?
Would you go out and drink?
Do both.
I was drinking, just drinking, like, I had a problem with it for a while.
Did you end up going to any like a therapy for it or something?
I didn't.
No.
I kind of just kept trying to stop.
But I kind of have like a good hold on it now.
Like I'll drink here and there.
Yeah.
But I'm just trying not to go on like a bender.
That's just like the, that's just when it gets bad.
Oh, yeah, man.
Yeah, sometimes I need some time to re-acclimate myself with what's right and not because I'm going into like a scent, like a just a recovery type place or something.
Yeah.
You know, just to get reacclimated.
Look at this.
No, that's a lot of.
Do you get sick of your own videos, especially like this one?
It's probably one of the most popular.
Maybe sometimes.
Oh, this reminds you of the notebook.
Yeah, that's what it's based on.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't show face, I keep my pace, yeah.
This is mid-bender for sure.
You'd be the best neighbor.
I know, we did a lot of shit in that backyard.
My buddy, like, shot out the other neighbor's window.
I think they might have been from another country or something trying to stay low.
They didn't say anything.
Dude, that's when you know your neighbors are the shady shit when you shoot their window out.
They don't even say anything.
They didn't do anything.
They would just close their blinds while I closed their windows when we come out.
That's wild, man.
That was a good time.
So what do you think then?
What do you think?
You'll stay here in town?
You're going to keep figuring out?
You're writing this show.
You'll see how that goes.
Who knows?
Yeah.
We're going to pitch that show soon.
Yeah, I don't know.
I get bored if I go home too long.
I think I just get bored.
Yeah.
So I'll probably just keep my place here and just maybe go back and forth more.
Yeah.
Is it fun when you go home?
Is it nice?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's nice.
It's nice seeing everybody.
And just like nobody's doing anything like this.
It's nice to just not be in that world at all.
Yeah.
Because it gets fucking whack.
Yeah, I think it definitely gets really addictive.
Like you're saying, it gets like, okay, do I have to put something out?
Like, what do I do?
I feel like I'm keeping up with this invisible animal.
Yeah.
You know, people are posting all the time.
What do I do?
Is this creative?
Is this still me?
Totally.
Yeah, I like go back and forth where I'm like, I get caught up in like worrying about it or like, all right, I just got to get myself into it.
and then i'll just like just realize i'm just stressed out about it like why am i even Yeah.
I think I'm just trying to find like what I want to do next that sounds fun, which I guess is the show.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, well, it's tough, man.
I think if you're a creative person, you want to find things that keep you feeling like you're not coasting, kind of, or feeling like you're not just doing the same thing.
Yeah, I guess like once you do kind of what you like had in the back of your head and you're like kind of set, you just get comfortable.
I don't know.
What kept you going after you made it?
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know, man.
You know, I think we got pretty, we got, you know, about like maybe three, four years ago, we kind of had a break and caught some, caught, you know, finally got eyeballs to see us, see the podcast and stuff like that.
So, I don't know.
Sometimes I want to do something new, you know, working on an animation right now that we might, we got a pilot over with Netflix working on that.
Nice.
That's dope.
Yeah, it's kind of cool.
But then also, I like, I like to do things my own.
I don't like to give, put things in, I like to not own everything, but just, yeah, I just, I don't know.
I have this weird thing about other people owning your stuff, really.
Right.
You know, it just feels not, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm like the same way.
I, I like to have like full, unless like I'm doing it with somebody like that I trust, I guess.
I have like full control of what I'm doing.
Yeah, I mean, if they give me like full creative freedom or enough, I don't really mind like if they say like sold it to Netflix or something, but as long as I'm like free to like make what I want.
Right.
And that's one thing that's just, you know, it's great about now.
It's like 20 years ago, there was no way to do that even.
Yeah.
You really can just like do, if you know how to do it, you can do whatever you want.
Whatever you want.
Yeah.
Did you guys see Bo Burnham's Netflix thing?
Alone?
I started watching it.
You have that great video about Bo Burnham.
I do.
Yeah.
We're like awareness, you know, you're like, you think I don't understand?
Analyze whatever you're saying.
it's so fucking ridiculous, and then you keep walking towards that fucking stupid shed because, like, who would even go in that shed?
What are you talking about, bro?
It's the fucking it's like after this argument, if we just go into that shed, that's the last place I want to be after this knockdown argument.
The Pentagon, bro.
It looks so tiny.
My dad built that.
It's nice.
It looks like it's from like Connecticut, but it I just, I can't imagine getting in that argument and then going in there with a couple of rakes.
It's a small space.
Yeah, that's what it seemed like, but that shit is hilarious.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I mean, you can do what you want.
That's what's cool.
Thanks, man.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I'd feel bad if you didn't do anything, man.
I have to pee so bad.
What do you call it, man?
All right.
Anything else, Nate?
That was all the questions we picked.
All right.
Shit, thanks for having me, man.
Yeah, Keyspire, thank you so much for coming in, man.
And for being a part of our lives, man.
Praise God.
Amen.
Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
I must be cornerstone.
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mine.
I found I can feel it in my bones.
But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking break and let myself on wine shine that light on me.
I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song.
I've been singing just for you.
And now I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of my past.
And these wheels that I've been riding on, they weren't so thin that they're damn near gone.
