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Nov. 26, 2020 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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E309 Morgan Wallen

Theo sits down with Morgan Wallen, the singer/songwriter and 2020 CMA New Artist of the Year Award Winner. His single "More Than My Hometown" has just hit #1 on the Country charts. They talk about touring, navigating his career during the COVID-19 pandemic and what it's like growing up country. Later Theo surprises Morgan with his hit-making friends Hardy & Ernest and they had a hell of a good time. https://bit.ly/theo-von New Merch https://theovonstore.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode is brought to you by: Magic Mind https://magicmind.co and use promo code THEO for 10% off Athletic Greens https://athleticgreens.com/theo for FREE liquid Vitamin D for one year with 1st purchase Bridge Credit Solutions https://bridgecreditsolutions.com/theo ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hit the Hotline 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Find Theo Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastw... Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEK... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Producer: Nick Davis https://instagram.com/realnickdavis Associate Producer: Sean Dugan https://www.instagram.com/SeanDugan/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Today's guest is a one-of-a-kind type of man in the country music genre and really just a young legend in entertainment.
	He just won the CMA's New Artist of the Year Award.
	I mean, he's just, the dude is just dang talented.
	And we're happy to have him here today, Mr. Morgan Wallen.
	I'll see you next time.
	Shine on me.
	If I will find no song, I'll stay in just a fool.
	I thought comedians 10 years ago could say whatever they fucking can, whatever they wanted.
	Oh, yeah, I feel like, yeah, a little bit.
	And now it's like comedy is even getting restricted, right?
	Yeah.
	That sucks because some of the funniest jokes are the most messed up ones.
	I know.
	Well, I think now one thing you're seeing, though, like in clubs, like say in like Denver has a club where they will take your phones before people go in.
	They'll bag them up.
	So it's this company even that they have like these little bags at the front.
	As you check in and get your ticket, they put it in there.
	They lock it.
	So you get to keep your phone, but there's no way for you to unlock it.
	So then, at least then it's like the environment is still safe, but all it takes is somebody who's being risk out.
	It's not like they're patting them down right now.
	Yeah, no, they're not.
	There's not like a T-Mobile mascot out there, you know, frisking or anything.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It really should be, though.
	No doubt.
	But yeah.
	Do you think about that in music, though?
	Do you think about, I don't know, does that play the same in music where there's things you can't say now?
	I haven't really considered it, honestly.
	I mean, I guess if I were to write a lyric and I was, you know, thought somebody might get triggered by it, maybe.
	But so far, I haven't.
	So far, I have not really even considered that.
	Yeah.
	Dude, people, yeah, people love your music, man.
	I was at a funeral.
	I'm not even joking.
	I'm probably about seven weeks ago.
	And they played.
	What was the one album?
	What was the album that Whiskey Glasses was on?
	What was the title of that album?
	It's called If I Know Me.
	Yeah, they played that at it.
	Yeah.
	And I'm like, it was a weirdest fit.
	They played If I Know Me?
	Yeah.
	If I Know Me.
	Yeah.
	What?
	For a funeral?
	It was really weird, bro.
	But I said, damn, this guy has made it.
	I mean, he's made it not only for the living, but for the dead.
	For the dead.
	That's almost more important.
	What do you feel like?
	Because now, I mean, you're famous now.
	I think, yeah, it's starting to feel that way.
	Yeah.
	You know, I just, I went to the airport the other day and got recognized.
	This girl came up to me and I was trying to be incognito, you know, like somewhat.
	I wasn't hunched over.
	When you take a cane?
	But I had a mask on and had a hat on and stuff.
	And I had my back turned to her and she came up and poked me and was like, hey, are you Morgan Wand?
	I'm like, yeah.
	She's like, are you really?
	I'm like, yes, I really am.
	And so we got a picture or whatever.
	And before we, before she left, I was like, by the way, how'd you know it was me?
	You know, like, what gave it away?
	She's like, I just know your eye region.
	And I was like, my eye region.
	All right.
	That's a little creepy, but.
	You might have to get like a little, you might have to get some shapes and specs or something.
	Well, on the way back, I just wore a hood.
	And the hood was fine.
	But like summertime travel, I'm not sure what we're going to do there, you know.
	But that was my first time being in an airport by myself in a long time.
	Really since I haven't been in an airport by myself in probably like three years.
	Right.
	So, and then since quarantine, I haven't been in an airport at all.
	So it was just like, it was a leap of faith.
	And you went by yourself?
	Yeah, I did.
	Dang.
	Now, was this part nice?
	Because I noticed this.
	Like, it used to be like I would feel.
	Because, I mean, I get recognized some, right?
	But it's a different level I feel like that you're on.
	Like, especially with music, like people are, you guys are rock stars.
	You know, like, we got to come up with some serious riddles.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, I don't have a bass drum out there.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, you guys really put it on people.
	Yeah.
	But I noticed having the mask is really nice because then it's like, if I want the possible dopamine hit I get from somebody recognizing me or whatever, I can make that happen.
	And if not, I can put it up.
	Yeah.
	Well, sometimes I'm sure you might get recognized too just based off your hair.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure that might be the case.
	But yeah.
	Yeah, the hair doesn't help.
	No, it doesn't help you either, probably.
	No, it doesn't at all.
	But that's also a good thing, I think.
	You know, it's like, well, do you want it to work?
	You're probably going to have to deal with being recognized sometimes.
	You know, it's just part of it.
	So I don't dislike it.
	It's just it can be a little, especially just, you know, just realizing you might be being videoed or whatever.
	It's just, it's a little weird.
	You know, it's like you feel a little violated, you know.
	Yeah.
	But it's just part of it.
	But the mask thing, you know, maybe I don't want masks to be required forever, but maybe like for the next couple of years, it won't be weird if you're if you're wearing a mask, you know, just stick one on for the next couple years.
	Well, the airline, I like it on the airline because for one, I notice everybody's quiet on the plane.
	It's like it's quiet.
	It used to be maybe there's some loud kids, you know.
	And then also I feel like I started to feel this pressure sometimes where if I wasn't in first class, then it would make, then I would be like, people would think something of me.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's my own thing in my own head.
	It has nothing to do with them.
	It's my own thing.
	Like, oh, they're going to think I'm not successful.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I get that.
	Yeah.
	So like then it's kind of nice if I can't say if it's just a last minute fight, there's no first class.
	I can sit anywhere.
	And as long as I have my mask, I'm pretty safe.
	Everybody's probably going to come up to you.
	I understand the pressure.
	I know what you're talking about.
	It's like, oh, you want to...
	I got four number ones.
	Surely he's got a lot of money.
	He got four number ones.
	And why is he in 16B?
	I got news for you.
	I got more fans than I got money right now.
	No, is it kind of crazy going from like I noticed there's a moment where you're good and you know it, right?
	You know what you're capable of.
	You know, like it's just as an artist, as a performer, as just a human being, you know it, but other people don't realize it yet.
	And that for me, that always felt like a kind of a special kind of place.
	It's like, I know how capable I am, but everybody else kind of doesn't really.
	But then you break that the levy there, and then it's like everybody just knows.
	It's almost like the secret has been told kind of.
	You ever feel anything like that?
	Yeah, I do.
	I mean, and I think at that point, you know, it's like before people know, you have something to prove for yourself.
	You know, like, I got to show them because I want to.
	And then once you get kind of past that, they start expecting it from you.
	And then you're like, oh, I got to prove it for them now.
	So it's like, it's just two different kind of places, I guess.
	But hopefully you can hold on to proving it for yourself for a long time because I think that's more important than proving it for anyone else.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think it just gets tricky, you know?
	It does.
	I think just the more success you have, the trickier it gets is what I'm realizing.
	I don't even know how to put all of it into words, but there's just so much going on at once, you know, like somebody, they expect this and, you know, they think they bought in.
	They've cared about you for so long, so they have a say in what you do.
	You know, it's like they almost feel like they're half your manager or something, you know?
	So it's like you got to be careful about listening to it and reading into people's comments too much because they love you because you're you, not because of what they want you to be, you know?
	Yeah.
	Damn, man, I wish you lived in my head, bro, because I go down the other path.
	A lot of times I'll start like, you know, I'll worry so much, like, what do people expect now?
	And like, how would I behave, you know, sometimes, you know?
	And I'm sure for you guys, it's even at a total, it's at an even more grandiose level.
	No, don't get me wrong.
	I don't live that.
	I don't, I don't always live by what I just told you.
	I sometimes do as I say, not as I do.
	But I try to, you know, like there, there'll be days where I'll go down that rabbit hole and I'm like, God, dude, this is, this is impossible, you know, because so many people have so many different opinions.
	There's no way to please all of those.
	But some days I wake up and I'm like, hey, I'm going to do what I want to today.
	And I just feel like I'm a lot happier that way.
	Amen, man.
	Wow.
	Now, do you notice like, yeah, you said there's like fans, like whenever you have fans from a long time ago that have been with you since the beginning, kind of, it is interesting because you'll kind of listen to them.
	And sometimes I'll almost go to them for like a point of view of myself that I feel like I can't get anymore.
	Yeah.
	No, I get that, dude.
	You know, there's some people, it's been so long since we've played shows, so I haven't seen their faces in a long time.
	But I mean, there was this one guy in like the South Carolina, North Carolina, anywhere in that region.
	He would come to just every single show, you know, and I'd always talk to him, maybe have a drink with him or whatever.
	He was just like, my boy.
	Yeah.
	And then there was this lady and her family member.
	They came to, I don't know, like 20-something shows in a year or something, something insane, you know?
	Yeah.
	And those, you know, you start seeing those faces and you start, I don't know, you start really appreciating them and start caring for them.
	And I, and I, yeah, you know, if I look for a comment, I might look for theirs first and be like, yeah, yeah, you know, they, they get it, you know.
	Yeah, there is something special about that.
	Yeah, like I used to have a couple of people that would drive to different shows.
	Like come, one guy drove his, like, he had this like beautiful car he'd refurbished and he brought it up from like Tallahassee and drove it up so I could see it at a show one time, you know, just because we'd had an interaction online and it was just like, man, it's pretty, it was just interesting, you know.
	But then I felt next scene I'm riding around the block in his car and stuff like that.
	You know, it's interesting the fans you kind of have from the beginning, you know.
	It is.
	I mean, at that point, you don't really think about it.
	You're like, you know, you may be like, oh, well, they're here again.
	Great.
	But the longer you get going and the more people that jump on the wagon, you kind of, I don't know, you just never forget them.
	I guess you never probably will.
	And that's kind of cool.
	Yeah, super cool.
	But you can't, like, it's interesting because in the beginning, you can kind of have a beer with that one guy or you can kind of have a beer with that, you know, the mom and daughter that came and you can give them a hug after a show.
	And you can hang out outside of the venue and spend a little bit of time with people.
	But then that starts to go away.
	Definitely.
	And yeah, I mean, for you, you can't do that anymore.
	No, no, you can't.
	And like I said, it's been so long since I've even played a show.
	I feel like things have even, for us, since the last time we played a show and now, things have grown so exponentially.
	I mean, it's like unreal how much they've grown.
	So I don't even, I'm not even sure what I could and can't do inside in a venue, you know, because it's just so much different.
	But yeah, I remember we used to play some, you know, we started playing shows, me and my booking agent, we had a, you know, a whole plan, you know, instead of going and opening for other people, playing, you know, clubs and theaters and opening for someone, let's just go do our own thing in these tiny places and build it from the ground up.
	So like we would go to like, I can't remember, like the boathouse in Myrtle Beach or something else called something like that, you know, and I would, I would play it, I would play a show for maybe 100 people, 200 people.
	Probably 100 boats.
	No, no, I don't even think it was.
	I don't even think it's on the water.
	Oh, come on, man.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But I can't remember what, I don't know if that's the exact name.
	I could be wrong.
	But that's like an oyster bar, but they only have lambs.
	Yeah, it's like, oh, man.
	But I would bring people up on the bus.
	And I was like, that's when I first got a bus.
	I wasn't making any money at this job.
	I was losing money to pay for this bus.
	If you have a bus in the beginning, you're losing money.
	I was losing money for sure.
	But I would bring him up there and I'd play him some songs.
	Like four or five people, I'd play them songs on my bus, just on the guitar and they would hang.
	And it was like, I think those are moments that I didn't realize how unique those moments were at the time because I didn't know if I was going to do any more than that.
	I didn't know if I was going to make it any further.
	I didn't know if I was going to get another bus.
	I didn't know if I was going to get a tractor trailer.
	I thought I might have to give this a bus back real quick.
	But looking back now, those moments were really unique and special.
	And I know I'll remember them, and I think they will, too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's funny, man.
	It's interesting how, like, yeah, those moments, it's like they just kind of disappear.
	They don't disappear.
	I mean, you always have them, but you can't go back and relive that exact same thing a little bit.
	No, you can't.
	And I think that's part of what makes them unique and special, you know, because if you could continue to do them, then it would just not be a special for anyone.
	It would just be a known thing.
	And I think that's part of, you know, the mystique about something like that.
	But yeah, it's funny to think about the steps that you take to get where you're going and how beautiful a lot of those, you know, those things, those moments that you, once you look back, you realize how unique and special they were.
	And you don't, once you get to a massive scale, it's kind of just like a lot of them are the same kind of deals the whole way through.
	it's like, oh, you've reached this point.
	Where do you go now?
	Right.
	Yeah, you start working with the same company.
	Everybody's kind of, it becomes a little bit more like a Best Buy kind of a little more corporate.
	A little more corporate.
	Yeah, yeah.
	A little more corporate.
	We got a question right here from a fella that sent this in right here.
	All right.
	And obviously a Joe Burrow fan.
	R.I.P.
	Hey, the R, Oregon.
	This is Phlem from Washington, D.C. Yes, Phlem, like the shit in your throat.
	I'm from Hudson, Princeton, by way of Alabama.
	And this question for both of you guys.
	I just wanted to know when you guys were up and coming and making your way, whether it's in stand-up or in country music, did you ever book a gig or show up to a venue and there was only like two or three people there?
	And since you had already booked and were being paid, you just had to power through.
	And how awkward was that for you?
	Thanks.
	Gang Gang.
	Gang, bro.
	That's a good question, man.
	Yeah, phlegm.
	That's a...
	In honor of Burroughs' leg?
	Clear my throat right there, man.
	Yeah, boy.
	Good question.
	I did.
	Did you?
	Yeah, bro.
	I did a few of those.
	Yeah, dude.
	Just one?
	I wish there was only one.
	I know.
	Probably my most notable one was like, I don't even know if I'd gotten a record deal yet.
	It was right when I first moved to Nashville.
	And my booking agent was like, because I had a band, you know, and he was like, well, I'm going to send you out on the road and play some cover band shows and just make sure, just get you guys and your band just a little tighter and, you know, make sure you guys are good.
	Right.
	Excuse me.
	All right, cool, whatever.
	What was the band's name?
	Oh, it was just me.
	Oh, it's still.
	Yeah, you and your band.
	Okay, got it.
	Go.
	Sorry.
	But we were singing like, like, we were playing like long, long sets, you know, like couple, three hours, like a long time, bro.
	You're doing weddings.
	Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Except I think weddings paid a lot better than this.
	And, you know, there would have probably been some hot girls at the top.
	This was not that.
	A lot of thick stepdads at this deal.
	Oh, yeah, just got off the public golf course.
	A lot of rosy-cheeked old men, huh?
	Yeah.
	A lot of Santa's little helpers.
	And probably this one, man, it was in Greenville, North Carolina.
	It was the first one we had done, man.
	And so what they told us was we're going to go to Greenville, North Carolina.
	That's where East Carolina University's at.
	Okay, cool.
	You know, it's like a Friday or something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	There'll be a lot of college.
	Yeah, the Pirates.
	Yeah, there'll be a lot of college kids out here.
	You know, hell yeah, we'll be great.
	We get there, and the first thing the dude says to us, he's like, yeah, by the way, guys, it's Rush Week or something.
	None of the frats or Sergius are allowed to go out.
	That's like, oh, that's bad.
	Okay.
	Great.
	Immediately.
	You know, maybe there's some people that stuck around this town that are a little younger.
	There's some people that dropped out of school.
	They didn't make to the frat, you know?
	We go up there, and as soon as he starts saying that, I start pounding PBRs just in the middle of the day.
	I'm like, oh, this is going to be.
	Oh, yeah, bro.
	This is going to be bad.
	That's the North Carolina State Bird, the PBR dog.
	Amen.
	Coco.
	I don't know who it is.
	But, man, we get out there and I'm pretty lit, dude.
	And, like, honestly, we have not had a chance to practice that much.
	And there is a bunch of songs on this list, you know.
	So I'm damn near making up words with these songs.
	Lit, singing.
	There's like four people, you know, one person kind of dancing a little bit.
	By himself.
	Yeah, I couldn't tell you who was actually there.
	But I start midway through it.
	I'm like halfway talking shit to the crowd.
	I'm like, God, you guys suck.
	I'm just not having any time.
	I'm not feeling it all.
	Telling my band to replay the chorus.
	Let's just keep this song going because I don't know the next one.
	And it was like one of those moments where I knew I didn't want to do that.
	I didn't want to play cover band shows because it was extremely difficult and you just don't never know what you're going to get.
	So I think that moment, I'm pretty sure one of my buddies that I brought with me like told the guy his bar sucked and like he got kicked out of the bar.
	One of the five people there was my buddy and he got kicked out because he was being an idiot.
	But it was one of those moments.
	I was like, well, I need to get it together.
	We really need to.
	I want to make something of this.
	I really, really love singing.
	I really don't like singing other people's music the whole time.
	I'd really like to sing my own.
	So let's hone in and really work on this.
	And that was the worst one we ever.
	The first one was the worst one.
	And we kept getting better.
	Damn.
	And you're still with some of the same guys today?
	Yeah.
	Everybody in that band is still my band except for one of my guitar players.
	And it was not any Bad Blood or anything.
	He just got married and wanted to stay at home.
	Oh, yeah.
	I heard about that.
	I remember you talked about that in a different interview.
	Man, that's wild, dude.
	I remember.
	Let me think.
	I remember one time they brought me out.
	This was actually a Greek event.
	This was in, this was like University of North Florida or something.
	So they bring me out.
	What did you say that?
	I don't know.
	And it's one of those schools you're like, I don't know if this really is school.
	There's like 18 schools in Florida, and that ain't, that's, yeah, they cut it off.
	That's number 19. There's like four gyms on campus.
	You're like, this shit is a little weird.
	This ain't checking out.
	So they're like, okay, we need you to go out there, start the show off.
	It's going to be great, right?
	I go out there, but these kids do not give a fuck about me.
	All they care about is seeing their friends who are performing because each one of the Greek groups had like one of, they're doing something.
	They're doing like a, you know, they're playing a song or doing a skit.
	Okay.
	So like a talent show.
	Yeah, a talent show.
	So I go out there, and I guess they didn't consider me talent.
	So I go out there, bro.
	They're booing.
	So I'm just ripping through my material because it's all I have.
	It's my only weapon.
	My only weapon is just these words that I have, you know, and only have about 15 minutes of material.
	So I burn through that in about seven minutes.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know?
	Yeah, because part of your thing is like pausing.
	Yeah, totally, totally.
	None of that.
	Bro, every time I pause, I can feel how much more they hate me.
	so I'm like, damn, these pauses are pretty painful.
	Oh, I guarantee it.
	So I get through that.
	I bring out the group who's performing coming out next, and I get backstage, and I'm like, that was good.
	And they're like, you're back up in three minutes or something, right?
	And I had to go out seven more times out on that stage.
	I had no Mormons here.
	For 15 minutes each?
	No, no, no.
	For like three minutes each after that.
	So you're like the host, kind of.
	Yeah.
	Man.
	It got so bad, bro.
	Like the third time, dude, the third time, I picked up an American flag that was backstage and just walked out with them.
	That was it.
	Somebody sing the national anthem out here.
	Yeah, totally.
	Like I was surrendering, bro.
	Like I just was giving up.
	Spray paint that thing white.
	It was bad.
	Just going over the red.
	Yeah.
	Dude, it was bad, man.
	But by the end, it was almost funny that I kept coming out.
	They're like, no way he's coming back out.
	And I'll be like, I'm back.
	How long ago was that?
	Man, that was probably 10 years ago.
	But the one that hurt my feelings most, I had a special that came out on Netflix probably a few years back, about five years ago.
	And I thought, man, this is it.
	I made it.
	I've watched it.
	I've watched it.
	Oh, thanks, man.
	Appreciate that.
	And so I get out there.
	I go to Chattanooga.
	It was in Chattanooga.
	I'm performing.
	And I'm excited.
	I get down thinking, it's going to be hype, dude.
	Finally, people are coming.
	I've been doing this for, you know, nine years, 10 years.
	Finally, people are going to come out.
	And I got there, bro, and there's like seven people there.
	It didn't do anything, dude.
	And there was just one like, and one, one girl came, bro.
	And that's always, bro.
	It hurts you because it makes you think like, dang, dude, I wish it wasn't her who came.
	But also, we'll see how it goes.
	You know, there's only one girl.
	Bro, she was, she was a tough girl, boy.
	She had all the shoulders, bro.
	She was just a strong lady.
	You know?
	Yeah, you met her?
	No, I've met a few, yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	I mean, I love Heinbangers too, you know?
	Yeah, no, she was, she was, she was just, and I still, I think I did actually end up making out with her, honestly.
	Yeah, you know, that's where I was at.
	Say, she came.
	You gotta, you appreciate her, you know?
	Oh, dude, and she's a great girl.
	She's a very sweet gal.
	And I actually ended up years later, she came up to me and said, do you remember me?
	And I said, unfortunately, I don't think so.
	She said, I came to your show in Chattanooga.
	And I was like, man.
	And I was actually pretty grateful she came because she was one ninth of the audience.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, yeah, she was at least a ninth, you know.
	But it was.
	Yeah, that was a tough one, man.
	So you were having this.
	That was when they filmed the Netflix thing?
	No, that's when it came out.
	Oh, oh, got you.
	So I thought that is.
	Well, I'm on Netflix.
	Yeah, I've made it.
	Yeah.
	And damn, it didn't do anything.
	I mean, that's an interesting thing.
	For me, it'd be like Spotify or something.
	I got on hot country.
	Surely now I've made it.
	People are going to care nowadays.
	Just because the editor really cares about me means everyone in the world is going to care.
	It's not always how it goes.
	It's interesting to think they just got to care about you, not because Netflix does or because HBO does.
	Those people are just taking risks.
	It's not like they're not God telling these people to watch.
	Right.
	Sometimes we give them that power.
	I think I always did, especially when I was coming up.
	I gave the media that power.
	Well, I think the media probably had a little bit more power when you were coming up, because they didn't, or even maybe a little further than that, because that was a lot of people's only way of getting to see you.
	There wasn't as much social media.
	I wasn't as much YouTube.
	Yeah, now it's like somebody offer you a TV show.
	I've turned down television shows left and right.
	It's just like I wouldn't, I would just have more success because I found success eventually by just starting my own thing.
	Yeah.
	You know, and going on doing things like Joe Rogue and like guys like that, like saying, come on the podcast.
	And then that's what changed me at least people being able to at least see me for me.
	But like you're saying, it's more of a natural thing.
	They gravitate towards you.
	They do.
	It's something about like they can push it as many times, you can push the spins as many times as they want.
	But if there's not something, I think that they, if there's not something deeper in there, then it's not going to stick.
	It won't, man.
	And it's interesting.
	And like for, for, I mean, I don't know what it, I don't, it's hard to put it that into words, too.
	It's like, I don't know what, what it is that people like about me or what it is that people like about you, but clearly there's something that they are drawn to that they feel connected to.
	I think it's just being real, dude.
	I really do.
	A lot of people just think they have to be a certain way or do a certain thing.
	Like, oh, I'm a country music singer.
	I got a, huh, you know, I better buy a Conestoga wagon.
	You know, I need a cowboy hat now.
	You know, it's like, it's not, you know, I don't know.
	I think they just really know they can, everybody has a really good way of sensing out someone who's not, who's not being genuine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think authenticity is definitely becoming more and more of a commodity than it used to be.
	But you also have to be cool.
	You have to be cool.
	Your authentic self needs to be cool.
	If you're not, then I guess you're just out of luck.
	If you're just not a cool person, then...
	He is lying.
	Exactly.
	So it's kind of like if you don't have both.
	Dude, I used to have this dude.
	I used to work on this farm.
	I worked on this soybean farm in corn over near Louisiana-Mississippi border.
	And we had this dude work with us, bro.
	And they call him Raptor, right?
	It's a nickname.
	And not nicknamed after the truck.
	No.
	This was him first.
	After the dinosaur?
	Yeah, something, bro.
	Something.
	Who knows, man?
	But he always used to be like, man, they named that truck after me.
	I'm like, dude, they never know nothing about you.
	You got to calm it down a little.
	Did he really think that?
	Oh, he 100% did.
	But he would, so one time they had a lot of tornadoes would come through there.
	So you have to go lay in one of the ditches whenever, if you were out there working, like we have to go lay in one of the ditches, right?
	So one day, there's a pretty good twister in the distance.
	So we're scared, you know, so I run over, I lay in.
	He comes in behind me, lays right on top of me, bro.
	That's fine, I guess.
	I mean, it's fine for me, but it's just like, damn, dude, we must have 400 yards of ditch, and he Lay right on top of me, man.
	But he had this unique thing about him.
	He used to go, after it would rain, he'd go take his shirt off and lay on the concrete, bro, and just let that like a snake, you know?
	Like chest down?
	Yeah, yeah, just let that heat get him, you know, just the heat coming off the concrete.
	Was he cold-natured or something?
	He might have been, man.
	He was walking around shivering all day.
	He might have been.
	I think he was definitely a little bit shivering.
	I'm sure when it came to school work, he made him shiver a little.
	It sounds like it.
	Here's a question right here from a young fella, man, who sent this in.
	What's up, Theo?
	What's up, Morgan?
	Born live from France.
	From France.
	Just want to say big respect as a fellow mullet man or aspiring mullet man.
	And my question was, Morgan, what is the craziest town you've performed in with the wildest people, wildest crowd?
	Gang, honky-tongue.
	I like that.
	I like the gang gang honky tongue.
	It's got a good ring to it, dude.
	Ain't too bad, man.
	Gang Honky Tongue from France.
	Definitely France.
	That's true, right?
	It's good to know.
	We're about to take France over.
	I'm on the way, dude.
	I'm on the way.
	The wildest place for me, I'm not even sure exactly what the town was called, but it was in Canada.
	It was a festival called Boots and Hearts.
	It's somewhere outside of Toronto.
	That sounds intense.
	It did say, it does sound intense.
	It sounds like a massive city.
	Within Cal Duty or something.
	I don't know, Toronto, you said.
	Yeah, like right outside of Toronto, somewhere.
	I don't know.
	Within an hour.
	But dude, I wasn't even on the main stage.
	I was like the headliner for the B stage or whatever.
	It was last year, I guess.
	And dude, it was so loud.
	I've never played a show that loud, and I've never just played for an audience that was that, I don't know, rabid for the material and for just what we were up there doing.
	I just felt such a gratitude.
	They were hanging on to everything.
	I mean, I played Whiskey Glasses, which I don't even know if it had become as big of a hit as it turned out to be yet.
	And after I played that song for 10 minutes, literally, maybe more, I just sit there.
	I stood there and they cheered and just kept getting louder.
	It brought me to tears.
	Wow.
	You could tell that they really connected to the music and to what I was doing up there.
	And that's a show that I'll never forget.
	And to this day, I have never played a louder or rowdier show.
	Damn.
	Wonder what it was.
	I don't know, man.
	Canada's always been really good to me, actually.
	Canada's amazing, though.
	Yeah.
	Australia?
	You've been to Australia?
	Yeah, they're amazing.
	You went to Australia?
	Yeah.
	Dude, how great is Australia?
	Dude, so far, those are the only two places I've been outside of the U.S. I've only been to Australia and to Canada.
	I haven't been to Europe yet.
	I was going to go before Corona and all that stuff happened.
	We were going to go this year.
	But yeah, man, maybe it's because, I don't know, we don't get to go there as much.
	They know that this might be a thing that doesn't happen as often.
	So, yeah, maybe that's why.
	And I'm not talking shit about American fans by any means because there's places that have been close to as rowdy as that, you know.
	But that one was just particularly unreal.
	That was it, huh?
	Yeah.
	Man, I actually, I think I came on stage the other night here somewhere at the comedy club here, and it was one of the craziest moments I'd had in a while.
	I think, yeah, just for some reason.
	It was just like a Monday new material night or something.
	And I mean, I think they must have cheered for like a dang minute.
	It was pretty crazy how much I think it goes back to what you're saying.
	Some people just want to, they relate to you somehow and they want to see you.
	It's tough as a performer for me as a comedian.
	It's tough to try and feel like I can return that from the stage, like return the emotion that people share with you.
	Does it feel like that for you ever, or is it different with music?
	Man, it just depends.
	Like in that moment, I think they saw me.
	I couldn't keep myself from crying.
	Like it was that it was that powerful.
	It meant that much to me.
	So I think that they felt that.
	But in other moments, there may be times where I may be so focused on what I'm doing or whatever that I may not even realize how much emotion they're giving.
	I'm playing 75, 80 minutes, 90 minutes of songs.
	I'm so focused in on that and feeling that.
	I may bypass something that they felt like they gave me.
	I don't know that we're all ever on the same page, but I do really try to pay attention to what they're doing and let them know that I appreciate it every time I get on stage.
	And once we get back on stage, I think I'll even be more so likely to do it.
	Yeah, man, it's almost like you're waiting for, it's like this rocket ship just keeps buzzing around your house and you just can't get on it, man.
	I mean, you're on it, but you're still on the ground.
	Yeah, it has not launched by any means.
	I don't know because a lot of artists are probably thinking, man, how am I going to make do?
	How am I going to create an audience during quarantine?
	I was definitely concerned about that when it first happened.
	I was concerned about a lot of things.
	Like, am I going to be creative?
	Because I really rely on other people to inspire me.
	I really like having conversations that inspire song titles or inspire just thoughts with other people because I really do rely on that.
	So I didn't know how that was going to go.
	Obviously, I haven't been quarantined as much as some people have.
	That's true.
	Yeah, even a little more out and about, man.
	Hey, every now and then a rabbit gets out the cave.
	You get a better lock.
	Dude, man, you scored more in Alabama than the volunteers have in a damn decade.
	That's for sure, bro.
	No doubt about that.
	Hey, go balls, baby.
	Go balls.
	Oh, they need to put me on the squad.
	They do, bro.
	You're about seven for seven from what I've seen, bro.
	But yeah, I don't even know what we're talking about, man.
	I don't either.
	Oh, the rocket shipper.
	Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of artists, I mean, a lot of artists, it's like, like all my friends, half of your friends probably, there's nothing they can do.
	At least we have this.
	Like this business is a business that's done well throughout quarantine podcasting.
	It's like can still do it.
	But a lot of guys, yeah, you guys can't go do anything.
	No, man.
	I mean, I've done a couple like private things, you know, just small type things where everybody had to be tested and all that kind of stuff.
	But, you know, you can only do so much of that and you can only have so many people.
	And so that kind of something that's something I haven't really been doing as much lately.
	I did that more towards the beginning.
	But for me, I didn't know.
	And then the whole TikTok thing started happening with my song.
	So I started trying to take advantage of it.
	You know, like, okay, well, that song, they really responded to that song.
	And I didn't even mean for it to happen.
	So maybe I'll give them one on purpose now and see if they'll start building up every song the same way they did the first one.
	And it seemed to be a really good strategy for me as far as leaking out, you know, demos or whatever, which I've also learned don't leak, probably don't leak demos because people get attached to demos.
	And if you change it in any sort of way, like towards the record, they'll be like, oh, you should have left it this way.
	You should have done this.
	Why'd you put this instrument here?
	You're like, okay, whoa.
	I was just trying to see if you like the song or not, man.
	I didn't know you were my producer now.
	But it's been interesting to see the power of just social media because I didn't appreciate it as much before this.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's interesting.
	So you think it definitely had something to do with helping your music grow throughout this?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
	Obviously, the music is the main thing.
	You need to have good songs.
	But as far as promoting it goes, I don't know how else I would have done it at all.
	Yeah, I think people just hearing good stuff too, you know?
	I don't know.
	It's a good question, man.
	Yeah, it's like how much.
	But yeah, little clips.
	I mean, I think, you know, even you just probably meeting the strange women helped it.
	Some probably, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm just doing shit that normal people do.
	Of course, 100%.
	But of course, I'm going to get hate from people that wouldn't be doing that in the first place.
	They couldn't be doing that.
	Of course, they ain't going to like me doing that.
	I get that.
	That's fine.
	I'm going to get hate.
	I want to get hate whether it's COVID or not for doing that.
	Oh, yeah.
	People get jealous.
	Yeah, and I get that.
	But for the most part, I'm just living my life.
	How am I supposed to write songs if I don't live my life, first of all?
	And, you know, obviously, maybe I don't want videos of everything I'm doing, but I don't know that I would change it.
	Change it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Agreed, man.
	There was a, you're outspoken about like, yeah, why can't we go tour?
	And, and, you know, and it's time to, you know, to get people back on the road.
	And I just want to hear, so people think, oh, just this artist can't go, but you have, you affect the livelihoods of a lot of people, you know, and not you, any, any big performer does.
	And so who, how many, take me just through whose livelihood you affect, like, just so people know who, you know, that it's not just you.
	I don't even know if I can, can, I don't know if I can think of all of them.
	I mean, I have, you know, my, my booking agency, my booking agent is one of my best friends.
	You know, he, they make percentages of what I can go and make on the road, basically only off the road.
	So there's that.
	Right.
	And I know for a fact, my booking agency has had to fire or furlough a ton of people just based off that.
	Then, you know, I have my label, my management, you know, my label makes more money off my record, so that doesn't affect them as much, even though we do get to promote our, you know, whatever.
	Nobody's starving there.
	Right.
	Nobody's starving there.
	They're not firing anybody at the label.
	But on stage with you.
	But, you know, my management team, I have my tour manager.
	I have my assistant tour manager.
	I have my band.
	I have my guitar techs.
	I have my stage manager.
	I have my front-of-house guys.
	I have all kinds of people who are getting the show together too.
	Not to mention the local guys who are doing the, you know, every different town we go to, there's a bunch of local people that rely on that income to make that happen.
	But my guys, you know, like they all have families.
	They all have people.
	And I paid them for as long as I could.
	You know, I paid them for months into all of this.
	And then at some point, I'm like, well, guys, I'm not really bringing in nearly as much money as I was.
	So I can't continue to just keep dishing out money.
	And I wish that I was able to.
	And I know, I get it, like those protests and all that stuff.
	You don't sell tickets.
	You're not doing all that stuff.
	But I don't know.
	There just seems to be no, it just seems to me like it's a double standard.
	They get praised for going to do that.
	Right.
	Oh, yeah, but we can't have a concert.
	But God forbid we have a concert.
	You know, God forgives we do something that is all, that's going to make people feel good and be excited and have a good time.
	It's ridiculous.
	It is.
	And I don't know, man.
	It's important, I think, but there should be some sort of a plan where it's like, let's lock up our senior citizens and keep them safe.
	And then people that want to make a choice to go have a good time can make that choice.
	That's kind of what I've said from the beginning.
	It's like, okay, well, if you're at risk or you think you're at risk, that's fine.
	You stay in and you get the stimulus package.
	Sure.
	We'll take care of you.
	Yeah, you get it.
	But everybody else who's young and healthy, I know so many of my friends have had COVID and I'm sure it's not fun, but they're fine.
	And I think people forget about immune systems.
	I don't know if that's like, did that just disappear?
	What happened to those?
	Do we have those still?
	I don't know.
	I don't think we do.
	If you wash your hands probably 40 times a day, you probably don't have an immune system anymore.
	People forget about all of that.
	I just, you know, and then if you really look at the numbers, I was watching the news last night in like Tennessee, like, they're like, oh, five people have died.
	I'm like, well, that sucks.
	Five people.
	That is terrible.
	Five people die every weekend in a runaway church van accident.
	Let's be honest.
	That's what I'm saying.
	And like, if you listen to the numbers, like, oh, death, GG.
	Yeah, it sounds scary, but it, I mean, God, why do they want us to be so scared?
	You know, that's what makes me so skeptical.
	Like, what are they trying to do?
	Why do they want so much control?
	I just don't like that.
	And no one mentions how many people are depressed and using drugs and using alcohol because they can't provide for their family.
	They can't do this.
	and they're feeling like they're worthless because of this?
	Some guy wrote a note.
	He died.
	He killed himself.
	He said, I wish I'd have had COVID.
	Are you serious?
	He said, I just couldn't.
	I couldn't even.
	I tried to get it.
	I couldn't.
	That's why he wrote it online.
	But no, it's ridiculous, man.
	And it just, because I think at a certain point, it starts to make me think, why can't I make a choice for myself?
	Like, let me make a choice.
	I have with other flus.
	I have with other things.
	Like, you know, I should be able to make a choice and we should be able to hold on to pieces of our society that still make us feel good and that are important.
	Yeah.
	And if, like, obviously, I don't want to contribute to no one's death or anything like that.
	That's not the point.
	I'm trying to, that's not what I'm trying to do.
	I don't think anyone's trying to cause death.
	But, you know, if we want to have a show, all right.
	If you're still that concerned about it, sign a waiver.
	Yeah.
	If you want to come, we'll all sign a waiver.
	Yeah.
	Simple as that.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Put some responsibility on human beings, you know?
	Because it almost makes you feel like, I think, is there any Value in being, then what's the point of even being human if I don't even get to make any choices?
	I don't know.
	That's what I'm trying to figure out, too.
	How long is this going to last?
	Yeah, the rest of our lives.
	Are we just going to continue?
	Are we going to have to wear a mask forever?
	I mean, like, oh, God, there's a new COVID next year.
	You know, COVID-20.
	Yeah.
	Like, is that what it's going to be?
	I mean, I don't know.
	They set us up perfectly for a lot of future COVIDs, man.
	They did, man.
	And it's just, no one likes to do any sort of research or look at data.
	They just look at a headline and assume it's accurate.
	And that's just, that's just not how you should be.
	I don't think.
	I think you should do some stuff for yourself and educate yourself.
	And I'm not claiming to be all-knowing about COVID because I'm not.
	I've seen some data that just makes me think I shouldn't be as scared as they think I am.
	And I may die from COVID next week.
	I don't know.
	But, you know, God, let's live.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, let's live, man.
	Let's live.
	That's another thing.
	It's like, you know, my mom says, well, if I get it, I get it.
	You know, it's like some people have like, they're not as scared.
	You know, some people just, they're holding so close onto their life.
	Here's a white guy right here who just got back from the gym.
	Watching be like, hey guys, I have COVID.
	What's up, Morgan?
	Huge fan of both of you guys.
	My name is Morgan from PA.
	And I was wondering, what's it like being two southern boys that travel the country year-round?
	You know, where do you see the most cultural difference compared to where you're from?
	Thanks, guys.
	Gang, gang.
	Man, I don't know.
	I think everywhere's a little different, don't you think?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I mean, New York, to me, first time went to New York City, that was the craziest thing that ever happened to me, I thought.
	First place, first time I ever got on an airplane, I went to L.A. So that was pretty crazy.
	Me too.
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah, me too, man.
	It's all the palm trees and stuff.
	You're leaving the airport.
	It looks pretty cool.
	It did look cool.
	And I think I realized how, I guess, how much of a redneck I sound like when I get out there because everyone's like, where are you from?
	Tennessee, man.
	Dang, man.
	I ain't never heard anybody talk like you before.
	You know, it's like, you don't really think about how much difference in one country there is.
	Yeah, and they get scared, too, if they hear a southern act.
	Like, what do you, hey, spit on me.
	What are you?
	Racist?
	Yeah.
	Are you racist, man?
	What do you want to, you want a recipe?
	What do you want?
	It's crazy stuff, man.
	There's so many, like, I don't know, just stigmas about the South that are funny.
	And I'm sure some of them are true.
	Oh, a lot of them, I think, are true, bro.
	Bro, I'll tell you it is.
	The worst thing is, there is something funny, though.
	The Southern accent, it's great, but it also sounds dumb sometimes.
	It can.
	It can really rule it.
	Because it's like you could be the smartest person.
	You need to show up with a Southern accent and you don't get the same consideration.
	No, you don't.
	And I don't know where that came from, really.
	I don't know why people correlated those two.
	Do you?
	That's a good point.
	I don't know why either.
	Like, where did that come from?
	Probably from, I guess, television, probably, is where you would see, you know, it was always the like southern, you know, the redneck-y kind of guy.
	And then rednecks, I've said this before a ton, is it's the last people they still let you make fun of on television, you know?
	True.
	So I think we might always get made fun of.
	I don't just be part of it.
	But I don't, and I guess, you know, a lot of people from the country who you consider redneck don't have as much education, you know, as far as book smart.
	They may not be book smart, but they'll get your car back on the road, you know?
	Yeah, dude.
	Oh, they'll make cracklings.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Bro, my sister, she's pretty country, and she's the happiest person I know in my whole life.
	It's definitely a more simple way of living out there.
	It is.
	You may be busy all the time.
	You may be getting up at sunrise and going to bed at sundown or not quitting work till sundown.
	But it's just like, I don't know, there's not as much, I don't know, pressure, it seems like, you know, to fit a certain mold.
	Yeah, I was on a date the other day with this gal, and she said that they didn't live by anybody growing up.
	They lived in like rural Alabama.
	And she said, so the only guys that would come literally were her cousins when they would come over like a couple times a year.
	So a couple of her siblings got in, you know, at trouble with the family for smooching on the cousins, but it was only people they saw.
	What do you want me to do?
	Come on, man.
	How close of cousins we talk about.
	It's true.
	But it's just interesting, man, when you have limited options, man.
	That's pretty wild.
	I grew up decently rural, but not that.
	I saw, I had a couple of family friends, you know.
	You got to wait for a family friend.
	I don't think we didn't have the same last name.
	That's all I knew, baby.
	I was in.
	You got to at least wait for a tall trick-or-treater to show up.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, come on.
	Sean, let's pull up that question when you played for me earlier.
	Hey, what's going on, fellas?
	This is Jason coming to y'all from Who That Nation.
	Got the big win over them Dirty Birds today.
	Out here on these tugboats, keeping America moving.
	My question for Morgan Wyland is, if you could create a song with any artist, any genre, past, present, future, who would it be and why?
	Love everything y'all do, man.
	Morgan, congrats on that CMA award.
	Looking forward to that new double album released next year.
	Y'all take it easy, man.
	Gang Gang.
	Gang, baby.
	Hell yeah, man.
	That's a good question.
	Who would it be you think out of the past, even?
	I don't think I've ever seen the inside of a tugboat before.
	Pretty cool, huh?
	Yeah, I wonder how far he's going.
	That's pretty cool.
	And dude, that job, you have to get born into it a lot of times.
	If it's in Louisiana, I think the laws are that you have to get grandfathered into it literally.
	Like your grandfather has to have done it, like it's a family job.
	Huh.
	That's cool.
	Pretty cool.
	I mean, it sucks if you don't have a grandfather.
	What about your grandma?
	I mean, I'm sure.
	I bet they got a couple of bad water bitches out there.
	I bet they do, too.
	I don't know.
	But that's cool, man.
	I've never seen that before.
	Is there a guy like on even on any place, even 21 Savage, who would be somebody to be a cross?
	That would be interesting.
	Oh, well, an artist of any time, like past or present, or like, I don't know about the future, but the Eagles, man.
	That's who I would pick.
	I love the Eagles.
	That's like, I don't know.
	Their music just makes me feel a peace, you know?
	And they always have.
	I think probably because I grew up listening to them a lot and just their sound is so harmonious and beautiful.
	I don't know.
	I just love them.
	If I could do a song with the original Eagles, that would definitely be who I'd pick.
	Damn.
	But if I could do a song right now with somebody, I want to do a song with Miley Sires.
	Oh, what, really?
	I love her voice, man.
	Yeah.
	She has an insane voice.
	And I just, you know, she kind of just don't care either.
	And I like that.
	Yeah.
	What about Justin Bieber, man?
	JB, you think you'd do something with him?
	Yeah, I've always, you know, I'm a big fan of his.
	Yeah, me too.
	I've never been like a, I've never been on the side of like, oh, this kid's a punk.
	Look at him doing all this stuff.
	You know, I'm like, this kid's like 15 years old getting thrown into this pop.
	I'm 27 and not even close to the level of fame that he's on.
	And I'm like, this shit's hard.
	You know, it's like, dang, this is hard.
	But this dude's 15 getting thrown into the pop world.
	Yeah, the dude's eating now and laters and going to like orgies with us and give him a break.
	I mean, I can't imagine that.
	I really can't.
	So I've never been, and I've always kind of felt that for him.
	Even before I, you know, had anything to do with music, I was always like, dang, why don't people get off this dude's back?
	I mean, my God, he ain't killing nobody.
	Yeah, he came actually to one of my shows in New York actually last year.
	Him and Carl, his pastor buddy is, Carl Lentz, who's like a, who's also a friend.
	I don't know JB as well, but I know, I've met him a couple of times through, just through church and stuff.
	And he's a neat kid.
	But he went through it, man.
	I mean, he went through hell, you know, and he's finally really getting back on his feet.
	And that on God track that he did is really good.
	Man, I think I've always thought he was a talented, uniquely top-level talent.
	Yeah.
	From day one since I heard him.
	Canadian, bro.
	Yeah.
	Something up there, man.
	I'm telling you.
	Drake, Shania Twain.
	Oh, Shania Twain.
	Remember her?
	Have you ever met her?
	No.
	Oh, you got to slide into her DMs.
	Hey, she ain't showing how old she is now.
	I don't know.
	She's probably young enough.
	Not too old.
	Yeah, she's still Shania Twain, man.
	Yeah, that's all that matters.
	Kick, turn, staunch, staunch, man.
	She's breathing, baby.
	She's beautiful.
	She is, dude.
	She really is.
	But no, JB, I'm definitely a fan of his.
	Yeah, that'd be interesting.
	Speaking of other artists, what's this question right here, Sean?
	Yo, what's up, Theo?
	What's up, Morgan?
	Which one?
	Johnny Cash?
	Hank Williams?
	Merle?
	Let me know.
	Gang, gang.
	Man, that's very tough.
	But I think Johnny Cash for me, I've always liked his music a little bit.
	You guys probably have good stories to tell, too, probably.
	I'd say so.
	He's Johnny Cash.
	You're like Johnny Credit.
	I don't know if that's a compliment I just mean because of the change of time.
	No, I know.
	Yeah, it's not that.
	Somebody's Johnny Check, the next guy.
	Yeah, if you were Latino, you'd be Johnny Di Nara.
	So it's just totally.
	No, I'm sure he's got some crazy ones to tell, man.
	But I do love his music.
	I even love some of the music that he put out, like, when he was getting older.
	He just always had a really knack for songs and obviously just being somebody who's a, I don't even know how to describe that guy.
	That guy's just larger than life, you know?
	Yeah.
	When he also got to, like, you had that video recently.
	You guys just put out a video.
	It's almost like a short movie.
	It was, and it's like, there's some acting in it by you, kind of.
	Yeah.
	you feel kind of brave doing that?
	Oh, thanks.
	Thanks.
	Did you feel pretty comfortable with it?
	I did, actually.
	I really enjoyed it, you know.
	I've always kind of, not always, just in the past couple years, I've thought about doing a little bit of acting in my music videos, you know.
	And this one seemed like we've kind of made it to the point to where we can, you know, we have a little bit more leeway and a little more budget for our films and, you know, that kind of thing.
	So me and my manager just decided we can do it on this one and, you know, came up with the treatment with my director.
	And I was asking the girl, the actress that was with me, I'm like, you know, because she's been in some legit stuff, I guess, you know, like Netflix and all that kind of stuff.
	And I was, you know, hey, how am I doing?
	You're doing all right?
	Are you feeling all right, you know, with this?
	And she's like, yeah, you seem like you feel comfortable.
	So I don't know.
	I didn't have to, it's not like I was doing a whole, like, I wasn't really acting.
	I wasn't like having to change my accent or.
	But you were being yourself, but it's hard to be, it's really hard to be yourself.
	It's hard to not do a lot.
	It is.
	I think that's the secret.
	It's like, you know, you got that camera's there, so it makes you want to perform, but you, and you do want to perform, but at the same time, you want to, I don't know, pretend.
	I don't know.
	It's weird.
	I don't even know how to describe it.
	It's like the camera's there, but it's not.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I tried my best to just be normal.
	I think you did a great job, man.
	How talented are you, do you think, man?
	I don't know.
	I had a meeting with a director for a possible movie for next year.
	So I'm going to a decent role in the movie.
	So that doesn't mean that I got the role, but I think they're at least somewhat interested.
	So we'll see.
	I don't know.
	Do you mean how talented I am as an actor?
	No, I just think overall, you know, what else can you do?
	Can you swim?
	I can swim.
	Can you really?
	Yeah, I like swimming.
	Damn.
	Yeah, can you not swim?
	I mean, I'm not.
	I wouldn't say I'm great.
	I can handle a rain.
	I just can't handle like a...
	I can handle it.
	If the levee breaks, you ain't doing too well.
	Yeah, it's going to be risque, baby, at the levee breaks.
	You just had a song that hit number one on the charts, right?
	Yeah.
	I guess today is like the official day of it.
	And who wrote it with you?
	It was me, Charlie Hansome, Ernest Smith, and Michael Hardy.
	Let's see if we can get those guys in here.
	We got Ernest and Hardy coming here.
	Oh, they're here?
	Yeah.
	Hell yeah.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
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	What about y'all's first kiss, bro?
	Take me there, man.
	Who was your first kiss, Hardy?
	Oh, man.
	God, I don't even know.
	What?
	She's not going to like that.
	She's going to have to.
	I think her name was Lee Ellen.
	I know where it was.
	Damn.
	How old was she?
	I was Lee Ellen.
	She was like, she was my age, believe it or not.
	Lee Eldon.
	I think it was Lee Ellen was her name.
	Ellen.
	You know what's funny is like they always called her Lee Ellen, and I never noticed that Ellen is in her name.
	Like, I don't know.
	That sounds crazy, but I always just saw it as Lee Ellen.
	Now that I think about it, like, Ellen is a part of Lee Ellen, and Ellen is definitely an older lady's name.
	But no, she was probably, we were probably like 13 or 14 when we were at my family.
	That's like a fish.
	You got a late start online.
	Yeah, man.
	I mean, what was you doing before that, bro?
	Just looking around, bro.
	Killing hogs.
	Dude, I was like 13. Is that a late start?
	I feel like it's pretty late.
	I went to the church of Christ where we started at about seven or eight.
	If you're Morgan Wallen, that's a late start, okay?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I got to think about what company I'm in right now.
	Babysitter, huh?
	Yeah.
	I don't remember how old I was.
	She was probably like 12. I was probably like seven.
	What was her name, you remember?
	No.
	I don't remember.
	It's kind of fucked up with a heart.
	Yeah, she was 12. She was a heartless.
	Not to remember her name.
	I mean, I don't know if I was making out with her, but I couldn't.
	I'm sure I suck.
	Did you put the moves on her or was it like a cute thing?
	I don't know, dude.
	I just remember.
	I'm sure you were.
	I was drunk.
	I don't remember.
	I was seven.
	That was 20 years ago.
	Bro, just look on Snapchat.
	You'll find it, bro.
	TikTok.
	Morgan Wallen kissing his babysitter.
	What's Morgan Wallen doing in his babysitter's kitchen?
	No idea.
	I need a babysitter now.
	Yeah, you do now.
	You need to do that.
	Actually, she's here today.
	Rebecca, come on in.
	What about you, Ernest?
	Man, my first kiss, it probably was like kindergarten.
	You don't know your hands.
	Come up here.
	I told you.
	I'm good, dude.
	I'm good.
	I'm getting right here.
	I'm going to keep it.
	I was like kindergarten.
	This girl, this girl, I think Virginia Bain Burkhart, I believe is her name.
	Shout out Virginia.
	Bane.
	I think it's her name that he rambles out her full name.
	My mom tells this story because she picked me up from school that day.
	My little preschool ass jogging down the steps.
	Mom's there, and she said, how was your day at school?
	I said, I'm going to marry that girl in the pink panties.
	I don't know how I knew that, but that was a true story.
	My mom tells it.
	She said, and I didn't marry and I didn't end up marrying that girl.
	My wife was wearing white panties.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	That was a rough one.
	Dude, we had this girl in my neighborhood, and she used to wear V-neck t-shirts, her dad's, right?
	It was Italian, brother.
	They was fully Italian.
	And I remember she drew breasts.
	We were children, bro.
	She drew tits on her chest with a marker.
	Oh, my God.
	And let me kind of feel on them a little bit.
	Yes, dude.
	How old do you think you were then?
	I hope I was 11. Were you old enough to get a little, did you get a little blood flow from the little sharving tits?
	Bro, the sad thing was, my blood, I think I'm eye-and look, dude.
	I remember she drew them too small at first, and then she drew them bigger.
	Her first breast augmentation was with a sharp hand.
	That's funny.
	That was a past sign for her future.
	Damn, she's at 40. She's at 4 Alabama.
	She actually almost looked like She had the same haircut as Morton, which is crazy.
	That's a true story, man.
	Oh, my God.
	And her brother used to make us come over and play in a bathtub, and he was kind of more of a, you know, I think he preferred the company of men, really.
	And he had us come over there and we would play ship captain.
	And we'd all be in there.
	They had a pretty decent bathtub.
	And we'd be in there.
	He'd be on the side yelling stuff at us like it was the Marines or something.
	But it was, it'd be illegal now, I think.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's a different time.
	Do you guys, is there another song you guys have written?
	I mean, I know you guys are writing a lot of stuff together, and especially on the new album, you have a bunch of the songs on the new album, right, Ern?
	Yeah, I think me and Hardy both do a good bit of them.
	We haven't, we wrote this bar together, another song.
	Yeah, we did.
	And then we have this other one on there.
	What is it?
	Something Country?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I forgot we wrote that together too.
	So what?
	I forgot when we wrote that like...
	Yeah, like a long.
	Actually, a lot of the cuts we had together are like.
	I don't know which one the oldest one is, but they're like either more than my hometown or something country is like close to three years old.
	I think something country is quite crazy.
	Something Country was first, then Hometown, and then this bar a few weeks later, I think.
	That's wild.
	And you said it's three years harder to get it out.
	Does it usually take something that long to come out?
	It takes a while.
	It's all different.
	You never know.
	This one is like three years.
	I just had a number one on a guy named Jamison Rogers.
	It took like almost six years from the time we wrote it.
	But then I've had songs go that like God's Country went from farm to table, meaning like created to number one in like two months.
	Maybe two months.
	Sounds like a record, wouldn't it?
	I don't know if that's ever happened.
	Either that, I heard that Lights Come On was a Jason Aldean song, and a bunch of people wrote it, but my buddy Jordan Schmidt, all of our buddies, Jordan Schmidt, said that they wrote it on like a Monday, and two weeks later it was on the radio.
	And it was like a world of marriage.
	That's wild.
	And when you guys...
	Is it just kind of something that happens in the flow of y'all's friendship these days, or how does that kind of work?
	Well, the last time we, I don't even know the last time us three wrote a song together.
	No, I've really been writing with Ern more because he's been doing his artist thing.
	You know, like we've had more stuff that we've had to do for ourselves, I guess, me and Hardy.
	And Ern's artist thing is coming on too.
	So hopefully we don't all just get separated.
	But I don't think we will.
	Ern's got a lot going on.
	I see on his Instagram.
	He's also pitching baseball at a junior college.
	I'm getting my arm back, dude, for no good reason, dude.
	Like, literally, we were all playing in this grown man softball league, and it did not get my itch, bro, because I was like, all right, I'm going to pitch because I've always been a pitcher.
	And I'm just lobbing softballs up there, dude, and they're raking the ball.
	And it's like, what am I going to do?
	Try to throw.
	Dude, I think I did one night.
	I'm going to throw a fastball.
	I was like, we're about to get in a fire.
	Some dude hit a bomb.
	I was so pissed off.
	I just threw one overhand high up the backstop behind him.
	And his next hit bat.
	I wasn't there that game.
	Yeah.
	Dude, I started, dude, when you did that, dude, my peripherals went.
	And I literally just started thinking like, all right, who's the closest motherfucker to me?
	Dude, because I'm going to have to go.
	I was so fucking nice.
	I was like, I got to go throw real baseball because this underhand shit ain't cutting it for me.
	So I picked up the glove.
	I felt like Dennis Quaid and the rookie, dude.
	I'm out there in the rain at night throwing past the speedometer.
	But no, I go to Lipscomb University.
	I went to David Lipscomb High School K-12 and it's a college on the same campus.
	Damn.
	And played baseball or whatever all the way through my freshman year of college.
	Haven't thrown in like six years.
	Softball happened.
	I was like, all right, I'm going to pick up a glove, go throw again.
	So I hit the Lipscomb coach up.
	We keep up on Instagram.
	I was like, hey, can I come by?
	He was like, yeah, come on this week.
	It's beautiful.
	We're having like a field day or whatever.
	So I come out, throw a bullpen, and I was sitting at like 80, which was great for not throwing in six years.
	I was like, damn, I got the bug.
	I ordered a glove.
	I'm back out throwing, doing stretches and shit.
	Dude, I love to see you out there, man.
	Yeah.
	Still way out of shape, but you'll make it, bro.
	Still got an arm.
	Still got an arm.
	And if not, you could do softball, I bet.
	Yeah.
	They'll get you.
	We had a blast doing that shit this fall.
	I know we all kind of missed games here and there, but it was fun.
	Was it, and would you guys just play against too?
	Like, because I was on a group for a little bit with a couple of, I was playing with this Chinese restaurant, but we got shut down.
	Half our team got COVID, actually.
	Or said they did.
	I think some of them had some family issues going on.
	But yeah, we had all kinds of shit.
	I think there was a fire too.
	One of the places burned down that one of them was working at.
	Damn.
	It wasn't meant to be for that.
	No, it was not.
	I fell apart, dude.
	Godzilla.
	I was the tallest guy on the team, man.
	They called me Godzilla.
	They kept calling me.
	Bryce Harper.
	Crazy.
	Bryce Harper over here.
	But yeah, cocaine first, baby.
	What were we even talking about, man?
	Something about softball.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	So who of you guys play?
	Like a damn seafood restaurant?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like, there's a group of guys that like did, they were building the airport, like the Adenaunt.
	So they were part of a big construction crew.
	That's the only one that I know.
	There's a couple of hardcore serious, like, softball teams.
	Oh, yeah.
	One of them is a group of friends.
	They had a third base coach who was like 55. Randy Marsh on South Park, when he's yelling at the kids and the whole fighting thing, it was like exactly like that.
	I definitely went there for that.
	The most stories guy there.
	He had his cargo shorts on.
	It was tucked in.
	Had his sheet with him.
	They were having signs.
	He's down on third base.
	He goes, you got to run on second with your head on.
	Not like a character though.
	He was being serious.
	No, he was being deadass.
	He was being serious.
	We were like, bro, somebody should have ripped him with a foul ball.
	Dude, this shit sounds too intense.
	It is softball.
	We were just trying to have fun, but a lot of grown men go to softball to get that last, whatever it is in their life out of their system, whether it's trying to hit a home or whether it's trying to pick a fight, whether it's trying to do whatever they got to do.
	They bring it out there to that field and they do it one last time.
	There's some good.
	I didn't realize how competitive it is.
	And even the teams, there were some teams that we played that were like really, really good.
	What was y'all's team name?
	The Recoupables.
	The Recoupables.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we get the Recoup on your album.
	Every person on the fucking team was an artist.
	Yeah, basically.
	We'd never been able to do it if we were all on tour.
	So it was like, hell yeah, every Monday night, we're running it.
	That's awesome.
	I wonder if they do a spring.
	We should just.
	We talked about it.
	I'm moving up to men's league baseball, dog.
	Well, I'm going to stay down to softback.
	I'm trying to strike some folks out.
	We'll see about that, Ernie.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You're damn right.
	We'll see about it.
	I like your dreams, man, but we'll see about it.
	Back in 82, I could throw a pigskin quarter in my mind.
	Could you really?
	No, that was just an Uncle Rico equip for me.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I know that, but I thought you also could.
	No, no.
	82, I was about 10 years before being thought of.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	82. Dude, we had a guy that used to.
	We had a one-armed guy that played quarterback in our high school, and he played backup quarterback.
	And he got in for a couple games.
	And, dude, he could flang it.
	What's he do about the hike situation?
	Like a shotgun only?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, he could do handoffs.
	You think if he had him into different trophy?
	I don't know.
	I think they'd have to.
	These days, you'd have to, to be correct.
	Oh, yeah, definitely.
	But he used to, he would do this trick.
	Sometimes if people didn't know, he would pretend like the running back stole his arm and he'd run around and be like, he took my arm, you know.
	Did he wear a fake arm?
	Huh?
	No, he didn't.
	Sometimes he would for like a dance or something, a school dance, but he wouldn't bring it out.
	Yeah, not for like a Tuesday or Wednesday.
	Yeah.
	Dance is more important than the Friday night game.
	Oh, dude, his dad would, you know, come home early from work and hook that fake arm on him for the dance, you know?
	That's a cool dance.
	The neighbor's dad's tying a tie for his kid.
	This dude's sticking an arm on there for him.
	He's hammering it in from the side.
	Dude, we had a guy in our neighborhood.
	The dad was an Elvis impersonator.
	But we didn't even need an Elvis.
	We live in a small town.
	We don't need a damn Elvis.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's only 400 people.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And nobody needs an Elvis.
	This guy's an alcoholic.
	That's a good excuse for eating an alcoholic.
	He probably does a pretty good Elvis.
	He probably got a pretty good Elvis.
	But he made his son a wooden shirt one time for Christmas.
	Made him a shirt out of plywood and teak.
	A little bit of teak on the sides.
	That's a crackhead gift.
	I mean, it was like, holy shit.
	I went over there, dude.
	We came back from church on Wednesday night, and I went over there, and he's making it in the garage, and he's hammering it.
	And I came over there and held beside him when he nailed his son down.
	What are you doing?
	What are you making?
	He said he's making a shirt.
	I do it.
	You could tell he wasn't bad.
	Was it contoured and stuff, or was it just a piece of flat front?
	Look, he's going to pleated, man.
	That's hardy, bro.
	He just wants, you know, he wants to go that extra mile.
	I do respect that, man.
	That pleated plywood front.
	Give him a little shake.
	That's why I can't.
	You got a pocket I can put my dip in?
	It's a shirt.
	That's a shield, bro.
	I'm going to say it's redneck Kevlar.
	Lumberjack Kevlar.
	Yeah, for BB guns.
	Bro, he wore that pastor.
	The problem was on the bus, he just started to fall into the seat like that.
	He just couldn't.
	It was a large.
	It was a large, and he was a small kid.
	He wore it.
	He actually wore it.
	Oh, he wore it, bro.
	He said, we're going paintballing, boys.
	Dude, his dad never gave him anything.
	He wore that thing probably four days a week for about two weeks, and some people spray-painted graffiti on it.
	So Elvis, he wasn't a generous guy.
	He wasn't giving his kids.
	His dad's wearing velvet and giving his kids popular fucking shirts.
	I would sweat shoes.
	Did he think it was like a nice gift?
	Do you think he did?
	He did.
	Oh, that's sweet.
	That was the thing that was sweet about it.
	It was like, oh, this is him doing something nice, you know?
	Because he spent probably, I bet he probably spent two weeks in there putting it together.
	Wow.
	I mean, that is really sweet.
	These are reasons the South gets a bad thing that we talked about earlier.
	Yeah, you don't hear that any fucking world, dude.
	Yeah.
	Education is low, but my skills are building my son a shirt.
	This is why we lost the Civil War because we're too busy making damn wooden shirts.
	You could have built like a wagon or something with that.
	He could have done some things, man.
	He could have done some things.
	Let's go to a question right here that came in.
	Well, well, well, if it isn't the Mullet Muppets, Mr. Theo Vaughan, Morgan Whalen, huge fan of both of you guys.
	Thank you very much.
	Hey, can you say my name right now?
	I did want to use a question to Morgan Whalen and ask, what song are you most excited about coming up on the album?
	I listened to the three new songs that came out as well as other ones that have been the singles.
	Forget that.
	And just awesome, awesome takes.
	So continue to do what you do.
	And yeah, what song are you most excited for and why?
	He does have a gang gang.
	Oh, sorry.
	You're the man.
	Thanks, man.
	Keep doing what you guys are doing.
	Thank you, brother.
	Thank you for the question, man.
	Appreciate you.
	Yeah, thank you.
	And he does have a different accent.
	So maybe that's, you know, that's how they would say my name.
	He got a lot of French fans, dude.
	Yeah, that guy was from France.
	Was that guy really from France, you think, or was he just saying that?
	Yeah, he was really.
	Oh, that guy was from France.
	He had a weird sound.
	Who would just say I'm from France?
	I don't know.
	But you're right, though.
	Maybe he lied.
	He could lie.
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying he's a liar.
	Sorry, man.
	I'll say it.
	He could be.
	I'll take the pressure off you.
	And I think the mullet goes, I think we got four different types of mullet.
	What do you got back there?
	Yeah, it's growing out a little bit.
	Oh, you got that New York City mullet, dude.
	It's a little too long up top.
	Maybe if I think if I combed it all the way down, it would look more like that.
	It's beautiful, bro.
	Yeah, you look like a damn raccoon that's going to prime.
	I kind of feel like that right now, I'm not going to lie.
	It's wintertime, and like wearing this kind of shit makes my hair look like a rat's nest, but it is what it is.
	I think it looks great.
	I do too, man.
	I think you got some beautiful hair.
	For sure.
	We're like four women.
	Dude, I used to have Jeff Leopard hair, bro.
	Reading magazines.
	Oh, it's beautiful, Hardy.
	You're doing great.
	My hat's already back on.
	I'm like, all right, anyway, what about your girl?
	Yeah, you got that verse.
	I got that lead.
	Mine is a little bit more like women who prefer the company on women, I feel like.
	Mine is definitely...
	Morgan's is more mullet.
	Yours is more, I feel like, kind of.
	What is yours, Ern?
	Dude, I don't know.
	Well, when I get it trimmed upright, and let it sit down correctly, it's outgrown.
	I got to get Amy to cut it.
	It's actually, bro, it's actually a bullet because I do it straight.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	I like that the best.
	When I do it straight across the top and let it drop.
	Oh, the Lord will find you if you keep it like that.
	People aren't really that beautiful.
	Because I can put it back for a casual seller.
	I wouldn't.
	I like that.
	That's like, I would do that and drink out of the bird bath in the front yard, dog.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's full prop.
	That's like almost like a British, that's like a British sort of thing.
	I did this before Miley did it.
	I will say.
	He did.
	I know I did, and I know Miley's seen it because my name gets dropped, all right?
	And I know she said, Who's Ernest?
	What a name, and looked it up and saw my haircut and said, They'll never know I took it from him.
	The majority don't.
	He's trying to get Miley Cyrus on a song.
	I'm trying to get Miley Cyrus on the phone and figure out where she figured out.
	That's it, I'm not sure.
	It's the bullet page.
	Sorry, pants.
	Golly.
	I'm passionate.
	Ernest, they're fucking heated, huh?
	Sorry.
	I drank a suicide on the way here and I'm geeked up.
	No, you remind me of my Aunt Sally, dude, right now, honestly, dude.
	100%.
	And she's badass too, but you borrowed one of my dad's shirts one time to go swimming in the pool.
	It was not made of wood.
	It was not made of water.
	Does she smoke Virginia?
	Bro, she smoked medium-sized Virginias, bro.
	She's a bigger guy.
	Come on.
	Damn, dude.
	Damn, I look like Aunt Sally.
	I mean, bro.
	She was beautiful, too.
	She won seventh place in the beauty contest.
	But there was 30 entrants.
	There were 30 entrants.
	All right, 30's not bad.
	There was 30 entrants, dude.
	That's top third almost, you know?
	Shoot.
	Come on, buddy.
	We're in the top third.
	Dude, lips come, baby.
	Do it.
	Yes, sir.
	I don't think we even answered that guy's question.
	Yeah, we'll get to it.
	What's your favorite?
	What's your most excited?
	You got to answer.
	Yeah, what's the most excited one?
	And we're going to learn.
	I didn't do it right either.
	Yeah, what's the most excited one, man?
	Damn, Morgan.
	That's a hard question to answer.
	It is, really.
	And you shouldn't have to answer something like that.
	Well, I'm not going to.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I'm not going to.
	Let's get one more question that came in right here, man.
	We want to keep you guys all day.
	I already like this guy.
	What's up, Theo?
	What's up, Morgan?
	Got a question for y'all.
	What's the best place in Nashville to get that real hot hose country music hitter?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Gang, gang, PTL, baby.
	PTL praise the Lord.
	He's a very aware driver.
	I like that.
	I was thinking that.
	I like a man who can calmly ask a question and also drive.
	That man's totally in control.
	Yeah, he seemed like he's fine.
	Yeah.
	There's probably a kid in the back seat or something, just asleep.
	A kid who will watch this later in court years in the future.
	This is why you're with your mother.
	This is all used as evidence.
	Yeah, my dad is driving me.
	I don't know what his question to ask, really.
	Where do you get the hot songs in that show?
	Good songs?
	Does he want to go hear them?
	I thought he was going to say hot chicken.
	I did too.
	We're going to say princess for that, probably.
	Yeah, but where do you get the hot?
	I mean, I guess it's like, how competitive is it on the songwriting market?
	I mean, what is that like?
	If you need a good hit nowadays, do you go to one of these guys or do you have somebody else that you see on the side?
	Be honest with these fellas.
	No, I mean, honestly, if I have an idea or if I just want to write songs, they're going to be my top two people that I write with for sure.
	No doubt.
	I mean, not only are we good buddies, I really look up to and respect their talents more so than almost anyone here.
	I mean, we all write with other people too.
	It's not like we don't just only write with each other.
	We haven't written a song together in a while.
	But it's not because we don't want to or because we get scheduled writes with other people or we get on a roll.
	We may get on a roll like me and Aaron got on a roll with a couple people, so we just kept on hitting that roll.
	It comes in and out of phases of people that you're kind of gelling with.
	Yeah, it's a whole process.
	But I mean, we're also not going around writing with everybody in Nashville either.
	You know, it's not like.
	At first, I did.
	At first, you got to.
	Everybody did.
	You literally, until you find your crew, you write with everybody.
	And even once you kind of get cuts and you get some hits, then you write with the next level of everybody.
	You know what I mean?
	And it sort of goes on until you really are here for writing songs for four or five years and really get your crew together.
	And who keeps the tabs on how that's dispensed between the different writers if you get a song?
	Yeah, your publisher.
	So they're handling all that.
	Yeah.
	And they'll ask you, you know, who, did you enjoy that?
	Do you want to write with these people?
	Do you want to do this?
	and do you want to do that?
	And you just kind of...
	I mean, I don't know about y'all, but I mean, they just, like, I don't know who I'm writing with tomorrow, but I know I'm writing with somebody.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, they just book it out and you just kind of stay on your calendar and stay a couple weeks ahead and make sure it's not somebody that you hate, not that.
	Right, or somebody you've worked with before.
	It's uncomfortable.
	Yeah, totally.
	I mean, there may be a hit songwriter that's got 20 number ones that you just don't really like writing.
	No, there's nothing wrong with it I can think of.
	Every room dynamic is completely different because like I was saying, we definitely spent two or three years speed dating pretty much.
	Yeah.
	And then now the luxury is not having to do that.
	Yeah.
	Getting to pick your room all the time.
	And luckily, we found people who we really enjoy the company of who are badass at the same time.
	And you don't have to.
	It's just.
	And it all depends on.
	You don't feel nervous to go write a song.
	I don't.
	I don't ever anymore.
	I used to at first.
	I was like, damn, man.
	I don't know if I'm going to like this person.
	I don't know if I have a good idea.
	That's how me and you met.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	He came to my house.
	I did.
	Never met him before.
	No.
	And was he nice?
	Was he friendly?
	What was he like?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We wrote a cool song.
	And then I remember Morgan recorded the work tape.
	So after you write it, usually these days you have somebody that's pretty much sitting and they look just like him, except they're making music instead of other stuff.
	You know what I mean?
	And like a beat is going these days.
	And they're working on the music guitar.
	You rarely write with acoustic guitars anymore, sadly.
	But the first time we wrote, we wrote on acoustic and Morgan played the work tape like you just recorded on your phone, you know, after it's over.
	And he raised the key like three steps, which is a lot out of seven.
	And then did it again, and I was like, fuck.
	All right, I like this guy.
	That was it, dude.
	We just started drinking together.
	We went and ate barbecue after that.
	And then fucking.
	I don't know.
	We just started restarting.
	We've been boys ever since.
	Praise God.
	It took one time.
	It was me, you, and Jameson.
	Yeah, Jameson Rogers is another good buddy of ours.
	I love Jameson.
	Yeah.
	But that doesn't always work like that.
	Right.
	No, dude.
	I've had some brutal ones.
	Take a phone call.
	Hello.
	Nobody's on you there.
	I'm out.
	Yeah, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	I have an emergency.
	My dog escaped from my house and he's run through my neighborhood.
	My kid's on fire.
	I'll give you some bad excuses.
	You don't even have kids anymore.
	Like the whole drive home, you're thinking about how you can set your kid on fire and take a picture without getting in trouble.
	Without actually heard proof?
	Yeah.
	Jesus Christ.
	Damn.
	Do you ever like, this would be the last question I got.
	Sometimes with music, like, you know, I noticed a lot of your stuff that I've heard, Morgan, makes me like kind of nostalgic a little bit, you know?
	And I love nostalgia.
	People are like, if you could go to space, you know, would you go be that astronaut?
	Be like, no, I want to be an astronaut that blasts backwards into time and in my feelings when I was a child.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, that's the astronaut I want to be.
	Like, how do I get back there?
	Asteroid.
	Like, is there a thing for that?
	Astronaut?
	No, I'd go for you.
	Dude, Ern, I would go to you for a reading or something, I bet, in a heartbeat.
	You can get them palms ready.
	Yeah, Ern's roadside readings, bro.
	I got to pull up straight up.
	You got a couple carrot cards in there.
	Carrot cards.
	Oh, this one have one carrot.
	This one, that's two carrots, bro.
	You're doing good.
	Do you sometimes find a piece of something that you're like, oh, that makes me think or feel a certain way?
	And that's how you guys start a nugget for a song?
	Is there any real secret to it?
	I know this is a real general question.
	I mean, you start with an idea usually.
	And I think everybody, once you know how that idea is going to get written, like the storyline, everybody sort of taps into their own personal experiences and then they use their writing voice to sort of regurgitate that to a certain extent.
	I mean, for me, that's one of my favorite feelings, too, when I hear a song is that feeling.
	I think it probably is all three of us, if I had to guess.
	That's a feeling that I think we all relate to.
	So I think just naturally, that's kind of where we go.
	It's like inspiration that's like you don't even know you're using it.
	Subconscious, maybe.
	Subconscious, yeah.
	But when I'm listening to a song, I like songs that make me feel that way too.
	So I think just, and I'm guessing we're all the same.
	Country music's good because it lends itself to that.
	So the art of writing a country song, like you, you're writing three or four topics all the time.
	It's like, what's the new clever way to write an astotic song?
	I was like, the night we wrote Hometown, I was faded as hell.
	I always ask Hardy if his back hurts for carrying my ass through that song.
	Me and Hardy wrote that song.
	Yeah, yeah, dude.
	I was browned out in the corner, but it was in my room over at Big Lounge.
	I do remember when he said, ain't that a map.shame and think that.
	Boy, I got glass walls.
	I about ran through one.
	I was like, ain't that a map.shame.
	Ain't nobody writing this song in Nashville tonight.
	That's about all I said.
	And that is not even a diss at Earn because Earn is usually the one saying more than anyone.
	Yeah, I didn't do much on More Than My Hometown.
	But his energy in the room, I don't know that we would have wrote that song without that.
	No, yeah.
	It never would have came out exactly like it did if the variables were not there the same.
	There's no way it would have.
	Usually he's writing more lyrics than me and whoever else it is combined.
	But I say that because More Than My Hometown, it was unraveling that whole nostalgic feeling.
	I think it's one of the coolest ways to do it.
	Like stuck in these streets like the train tracks.
	Yeah.
	Bars, dude.
	Solid.
	God.
	Oh, that's the little Wayne, bro.
	Dude, that's a little thank you.
	It is like a little wayne.
	It is stuck in these streets like some train tracks.
	That's a little Wayne, bro.
	What do you call it?
	It's good?
	I mean, yeah.
	Pedaphor.
	That's a simile.
	Simile.
	It's called a huge.
	Pedophore is a damn dessert, I think, isn't it?
	A dessert?
	Dinosaur.
	Pedophore, what is it called?
	Pedophore.
	Oh, pedophil.
	Oh, metaphor.
	Wait, what's a pedophore?
	Pedophore is a little cake you get at the bakery.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Is it really?
	Sounds like.
	I thought you said pedophore.
	Why is that so close to pedophile?
	I know.
	The mixing pedophile and metaphor.
	They'll get you a little cake, you know?
	I can see it.
	I guess.
	I can see it checking out.
	I have two pedophores.
	And so you tour hard.
	Because I was getting my hair cut, and this lady's like, you got to hear this guy, you know?
	And so that's how she turned me on to you, this haircutter in town, Whitney.
	You got to tour a little bit during this COVID.
	Yeah.
	I played some shows and I played.
	In the rain, you told me, right?
	Yeah, we did one in Georgia in the rain.
	That was our first show back, and it was like a socially distant, it was a huge parking lot.
	And they had like, you know, like, it's just guardrail with the bicycle rack looking kind.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I do, yeah.
	And it was just on Broadway down there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, you do.
	I was waiting on that.
	He'd be like, you know, the third one right outside Texas just got the sharpie all.
	You had to lean up again with your belongings on the side of him.
	Oh, man.
	Bro, Morgan went to college, bro.
	Oh, Broadway?
	Yeah, I went to Broadway college, bro.
	He's the only one who showed up with a book bag over there at Kid Rock's bar.
	Yeah, he did have a book bag full of beer and reasons, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	But yeah, it was like 400 squares of those.
	It was cool.
	And then we played Atlanta.
	Same thing.
	It was separated.
	And then we played Florida.
	And everything was completely normal in Florida.
	And it was weird.
	I was surprised.
	It was crazy.
	Crazy to think that you could drive 30 minutes north from Gainesville or however and be in Georgia.
	And that's completely frowned upon.
	But Florida is.
	Florida is a new America, man.
	It's a new Roanoke, bro.
	That's where Christopher Columbus lands.
	It's a wild west.
	It is, dude.
	Man, it was crazy.
	Dude, I tell my friends in Britain, I say, hey, man, we might be coming back.
	That's what I tell them, bro.
	We might put a show.
	Where can we go next?
	Is there anywhere that's been unestablished?
	Where can we go next?
	It might be Canada, man.
	I'm telling you.
	Canada rocks.
	It does rock.
	It does.
	I think we all agree with that.
	We already talked about this earlier.
	I think everyone can agree on that.
	Canada rocks.
	Toronto is so cool.
	I watched Morgan play a festival there one time in a tent.
	He headlined the tent.
	You know how, like, it'll be a big tent.
	That's what we talked about.
	We're talking about boots and arts?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And the crowd was somebody had the decibel, like they were some way to measure volume.
	Did you talk about all this already?
	I didn't talk about that part.
	The crowd was literally louder than the sound, than the band, than the music coming out of the speakers.
	It was, I had never witnessed anything like it, dude.
	And we were so hungover that day.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was like, I don't know if I can play today, guys.
	And then it was one of the best ones.
	That was a good time.
	I definitely didn't know if I could sing or not.
	Oh, that's the worst.
	I did like a few interviews before the show, you know, and I'm like, Morgan, Morgan, Morgan, Morgan.
	Is this guy okay?
	How's he about to sing?
	Damn.
	Have you guys ever all sang together on the stage?
	No.
	Not all three of us.
	We've shot Gunnabir on stage together.
	Oh, yeah, Ern's basically pitching baseball as soon as he gets back on the stage.
	I got three workouts a day.
	Ernst's out there filming a league of the Russian.
	As soon as they send him back to the softball league off the men's please start.
	Now, Ern, if you push the envelope and try to get on the damn female softball team, I would support that.
	Who can tell me I can't?
	Yeah, you're right.
	No one.
	I think about that all the time, dude.
	Dude, I was peeing in the airport in St. Thomas, and then it was like a minute-long piss, and I turned around and realized that one of the ladies had been cleaning the whole time.
	I was like, dang, dude, I bet she just has to deal with this all the time.
	I probably would have still peed, but that's something.
	Oh, yeah, because of same-gender bathrooms.
	Yeah, it's like you don't even know who the janitor.
	That's the scary part.
	It's like what janitor is going to be in.
	Yes.
	And how do I behave towards them?
	Exactly.
	Do they want me to pretend they're not there?
	Do I greet them?
	Hey, how's it going?
	Completely ignore.
	I didn't ignore for sure.
	Yeah, I do what I usually do in any bathroom is completely.
	Do y'all tip the dude that's in nice places that'll wash your hands for you and shit?
	Bro, I'll tell you this.
	If I have cash, I will.
	So I'm in Seattle or something, right?
	I'm in there, and I go in the bathroom, and there's a guy in there, and he's like, hey, bro, I have to use the bathroom, right?
	I go in there.
	I'm like, I go in the stall and I have to sit down, right?
	So I have to sit down and do adult bathroom use.
	And this man, the guy working in there bangs on the stall.
	He's like, don't worry, bro.
	I got you homes.
	And I'm like, what?
	I don't need anything.
	I'm fine, you know?
	And it's the mint guy in there.
	It's the guy with the mint and everything, you know?
	I don't like that.
	I don't like that guy.
	I don't like it either.
	Another guy runs in the bathroom a minute later and starts pulling on the stall door, right?
	I guess he has to go to the bathroom.
	This bouncer guy, I guess who's now the bouncer of this toilet, he starts a fight, a physical fight with the dude.
	He's like, hey, that's my boy in there.
	And I'm in there like, I don't know who's out there.
	Anyway, they start fist fighting.
	Dude, the police come in.
	The police come in.
	He's in front of his shit.
	I'm just in the urinal.
	Oh, my God.
	So anyway, it gets really.
	Was that like a fan of yours or something?
	No, it was just a guy who I think, you know, you come in there.
	He's like, hey, I got you, bro.
	And then you owe him on the way out.
	It's kind of like.
	He's doing it.
	It's like the bathroom version of the people wiping your windshield.
	Yeah, let me get you, Doug.
	You might owe that dude some loyalty or something.
	He might need to get you stripes.
	I don't really understand.
	I don't want a bathroom attendant at all.
	I get nervous sometimes.
	I feel like I have to have a couple minutes.
	I'll stay there and have, you know, it's like a little salad bar.
	I think.
	What'd you do today, man?
	I just washed my hands.
	I don't need to just squeeze.
	I just beat the shit out of somebody coming here trying to shit.
	Yeah, it's been a long week for everybody.
	Dude definitely shit his pants in that fight.
	If he had to get in that back and had to get hit in the face, that was so bad.
	I'm like, leave him alone.
	He went to jail wet.
	No.
	That's too much, man.
	You guys are crazy.
	Well, man, congratulations on all you got success.
	Congratulations on the number one, man.
	That's crazy, bro.
	This is cool.
	This worked out perfect.
	I was so nervous.
	I didn't know.
	I called Hardy S. I was like, do you think Morgan would be upset if we had you and Ernest come in, or do you think he would be okay with it?
	I was like, he'll love.
	Yeah, I'm glad y'all came.
	And then halfway through, I was like, oh, fuck, we're going to have a number one that day.
	It was perfect.
	Yeah, and that's all I was like, oh, it's a perfect timing.
	Yeah.
	Hell yeah.
	But man, yeah, I know you just came from hunting, bro.
	Yeah, I'm about to go back.
	I had to come into town and get that COVID test and do this and get my tires rotated.
	And I'm about to go straight back.
	Well, happy Thanksgiving, guys.
	Thank you guys so much for coming in.
	Congrats on all the success, man.
	It's awesome.
	It's awesome to see.
	Thank you guys for making good music that makes people think and feel, you know, and hope you guys get back out on the road soon.
	I know that all you guys want to.
	And I'm super proud of these boys.
	I'm super thankful to do it with them.
	Just want to say that.
	Amen, man.
	Yeah, it's cool.
	Everywhere I go, it's like people say all you guys' names.
	It's really cool to just hear and even just to get to be here with you guys today is really awesome.
	So happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
	Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones.
	But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking break and let myself on wine shine that light on me.
	I'll sit and tell you a story and I will find a song I will stay here just for me Now I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of mine And
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