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Jan. 18, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Retired police officer Jim Lancia, author of Downtown White Police: Demonizing the Alpha Cop, Glorifying Thugs, and Militarizing Law Enforcement, provides his expert opinion on the ICE shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis.

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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Not a moment to waste tonight, my friends.
This Saturday evening, January the 17th.
We are red hot and rolling as that polar vortex dips down into the South.
Not a moment to lose.
Let's get right into it right now.
Retired police officer Jim Lancia was only 18 years old when he was hired by the Bridgeport, Connecticut Police Department.
He patrolled one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in America during the height of the crack epidemic of the 1980s and early 90s.
During his legendary career, he once carried out seven felony arrests in a single week and executed search warrants with only a billy club and a six shooter.
Jim Lancia was known as a super cop and even had a hit put out on him.
His documents, his career is documented, I should say, in the spectacular book, Downtown White Police, Demonizing the Alpha Cop, Glorifying Thugs, and Militarizing Law Enforcement.
Jim, it's great to have you back on tonight.
Thank you, James.
I appreciate it.
It's been too long.
You got to have me out a little bit more.
I absolutely agree.
And any law enforcement thing we got, you're our go-to guy.
That's 100% fact.
And every time, you know, we go back a long way, my friend.
We actually promoted your book, of course, as a fundraising incentive some years ago, many years ago now, because we do go back so far, but we need to do this more often.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're in for a treat tonight because I was talking with Jim earlier this afternoon, and I told him, if we can put it on the radio as good as we did during this telephone, this pre-interview, we're going to knock it out of the park.
So again, Jim, you're loaded, so to speak, and let's get right down to it.
We all watched the footage of the ICE officer shooting activist Renee Good in Minneapolis.
As a trained law enforcement officer, what is your opinion about what happened that day?
What did you see?
All right, just to put a disclaimer out there, I never like to judge any actions made by another law enforcement officer because I wasn't there, but you're asking me for my professional opinion, so I'll give it.
Looking at it, we'll talk about the whole situation later, but looking at that, there's two ways it can go.
It could look like it was justified, depending on who's, you know, who's where it's going to be tried, how it's going to be tried, what kind of jury they have.
And then it could look very reckless.
But from what I've seen, it looks like the claims he's making about being hit are not substantiated because when you look at all the angles, he doesn't look like he was hit.
He's claiming internal injuries, but if he does have internal injuries, then his claim might be validated.
But the shots appeared.
Now, this is all I could say from what I'm seeing.
They appeared to have been fired in the driver's open window, which is after the vehicle may or may not have struck him.
So at that point, it wouldn't have done any good to fire because the vehicle is already past him.
So it looks more like, you know, it's more like an angry.
Jim, what I had heard is that we had three shots.
Right.
I think what I heard was that there were three shots, two through the windshield and one through the window.
Okay, now again, I can only see what videos they have.
If he fired through the windshield, then it's more apt to feel like he fired out of necessity to stop the vehicle.
But another one was fired in the driver's side opening, open window.
Now, again, I'm not laying judgment here.
All I'm saying is from what I'm seeing.
But a situation like that.
Anybody in a situation like that with law enforcement in front of you, just don't drive away.
Now, somebody said, I heard somebody in the video say, move the car out of here.
So maybe she was confused, but that's not going to do her any good now.
The best thing to do is to just comply with the orders and you won't get shot.
That's it.
That's it.
Whether you like the situation or not, it's just better to comply with that.
And if you have a valid complaint, you can file your complaint.
You know, it's just, it's a really iffy situation with that.
Okay, I want to circle back to that in just a moment.
So I'm going to put a pin on that and just two quick follow-up questions.
And there's so much we want to get into, the incident itself, and then expand it out to the larger operation, the opposition that the administration and these people on the these law enforcement officials, excuse me, the officers are getting from the governor and the mayor and the powers that be in the Minneapolis Police Department.
We're going to get to all of that, and then we're going to look at it widescreen in terms of Insurrection Act and civil liberties and all of it with Jim Lancia.
But two quick follow-up questions, Jim, and this is where I'd ask for you to lean on your past experience as a hardcore cop in a hardcore, dangerous environment every day of your career.
A lot of news reports, conservative media at least, saying these officers were stressed.
It's a stressful situation.
Compare some of the situations that you experienced, vis-a-vis that which they experienced.
I mean, what would you have done?
I have a better question.
What would you have done had you been the one handling that scene and Renee Good in that situation?
Well, again, I'm not making judgments, but if you're asking me what I would have done, now using the stress is not, it's invalid.
All cops go under stress.
Everything you do is basic filled with stress.
You can't fire your gun because you're stressed.
We were trained to fire our guns at the last resort.
There's just no, it's the last resort to either defend yourself or another person's life.
It's just, it's not, you're not supposed to use a weapon as part of your police powers unless it's absolutely necessary.
They even trained us that even if there was innocent people behind and you might miss and hit somebody to hold fire.
I mean, yes, officer safety is important, but we are also not to be reckless.
Okay, but things happen.
Okay.
Now we're talking about ICE training versus police training, peace officer training.
It's different.
I don't know what they're telling these guys to do.
Now, you have two extremes going on.
Now, what I would have done, I wouldn't have stood in front of a car with other officers telling her to move.
Okay.
So I wouldn't have positioned myself there.
That I could tell you a fact.
I'm not going to walk in front of a car if somebody's telling her to just, it wasn't like she was going to be arrested for a felony.
They wanted her out of the road, right?
That's the main focus was to get her out of the road.
So don't walk in front of the car and just tell her to leave.
But to be honest with you, they took too long.
If you wanted to get out and she didn't leave, just drive her out of the car.
I know that sounds brutal, but it would have saved her life and it would have saved the officers all this trouble.
Drag her out of the car.
Listen, I did that before.
I know where you're going with this.
Yeah.
Okay, listen, I dragged a lot of people out of cars without shooting them or hitting them.
I dragged drunks out of a car that were locked in locked doors, the windows halfway down, the window comes down.
I take them out, I drag them right out of the window.
You know, but you need a regular, you need a strong guy to do that.
But that's why you picked the right guys for the job.
So the guy didn't have to get shot.
He didn't have to get beat up.
He was handcuffed him.
That's it.
Those are realities.
You know, if the window's not open and you want to get the window.
Go ahead.
Exactly.
That's exactly what you had told me today, my friend.
You had said you've been in so many similar situations where they were non-compliant.
And rather than, you know, blasting away, you knocked out the window and you dragged them out the window.
And, you know, certainly that would have been something that would have saved everybody's life.
Listen, I dragged a lot of people out of cars, just like other non-compliant people that you're going to, if they don't obey your orders, like get the hell out of here that they don't leave, you arrest them, period.
You see, you just arrest them for whatever, disorderly conduct, interfere.
You know?
No, you're, you're, I don't, I don't want to step on your toes here and talk.
All right.
So there's so much I want to get to, and I'm watching the clock, and there's so much because we went over so many things today, and I really want to try to work it all in because I think that is just going to be the full and complete picture of this of the story.
Right, we'll get to you.
I just want to ask Keith a question.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
Well, you, you, I want to answer this question as good as you want.
If I didn't answer it, just keep asking.
That's okay.
I'll answer it.
But no, you did.
No, you did.
No, no, no.
You did.
I just wanted to move on to this, though.
No, you answered it.
You answered it just fine.
But now, let's get to this, though.
Trained, and this is just your opinion as a political observer and someone who's in our ranks as far as ideology is concerned.
You just happen to be a former policeman.
Trained left-wing activists purposefully impeding the work of law enforcement personnel and inserting themselves into such a tinderbox.
I mean, you know, it's a completely avoidable situation on her part.
She came in from out of state to impede the work of law enforcement officials, in this case, ICE.
Right.
Well, you have two extremes going on.
You have a police department in Minneapolis that literally doesn't want to do their jobs.
Okay.
They're literally just, you know, are these the guys that kneel down before Black Lives Matter, all this stuff?
I mean, you got that kind of police department.
And then you got the, who knows what these ICE guys are being trained to do.
Now, both of them aren't doing a good job as far as if you're going to, if you're going to be overly aggressive for things that you don't have to be, then you're not doing the US, even whether they're left or left or right, it doesn't matter.
You still have to act in a certain way as a law enforcement officer.
But yes, you have this leftist Minneapolis Police Department that might not be doing anything.
But I still am looking at ICE as why are they all over the place?
If you want somebody out of the street and they're not complying, the best thing to do is to act, to react.
Ask them once, maybe the second time, but then you take them out of the car.
Drag them out.
Drag them out of the car.
That's what you do.
It sounds brutal, but it's better than shooting them, right?
So drag them out.
And if the cops don't want to help you, there's one other thing I'm looking at is that these ICE guys are hanging around too long.
If your job is to do immigration enforcement, you should know where this is and you should go after it and leave.
Make your arrests and then put them in whatever vehicle you have and go.
You're not supposed now everybody's out there firing tear gas.
What are they, an occupier now?
I mean, you can't just hang around all day and fire and egg on this crowd.
You know what I mean?
It's going to go bad.
And maybe they want that.
Well, let me ask you about this.
I'm a lawyer and I think about sovereignty, okay?
What people don't seem to understand is that cities themselves have no sovereignty.
Any sovereignty they have, they borrow from the state government.
You know, the federal government has sovereignty, in other words, the power to govern, including the police power.
So does the state.
A city is just a corporation like a business corporation.
The state issues a charter to the city.
But in this situation, you have local police, city police, basically defying the federal government and refusing to not only help them do their job, but trying to impede them from doing their job.
It's kind of like the civil rights movement in reverse in this situation where they're trying to, you know, you had the state government fighting the federal government.
And now this is the city governments.
And you have basically, I think that the governor of Minnesota and the mayor of Minneapolis ought to be arrested for obstruction of justice.
What do you think about that?
Well, I think so.
I mean, there are laws on the books, and Minnesota's not the only state that has defied orders that to hold and detain illegal immigration and other things.
They've actually aided and abetted their escapes.
There was a judge that wasn't arrested for that.
But yes, if the laws on the books, whether the city's a leftist city or a right city conservative, they have to abide by the law, period.
You can't just make up the law as your political affiliation wants you to.
But don't underestimate a city police officer's authority.
They are certified police officers and they just have the same amount of authority where they are as any federal officer.
But let's look at it this way.
Does the FBI have more, if you have an FBI agent versus a police?
All right, I think I had some motions on it.
I don't really want to get into all that, but you can do a quick answer on that.
We've got to get back to the story at hand, though.
It depends on the case.
But I'm going to give you a very important thing.
Remember the Little Rock, Arkansas, the desegregation of the schools and all that, right?
You guys are down in that area, right?
Yeah.
When do you agree with the U.S. at the time using federal troops?
No.
They were using hundreds of years.
No, that's a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
Right.
That's a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
But they were acting under federal authority.
So you seem to be defending federal authority now, but in the 60s, there's pictures online.
I want you to look for those pictures of bayoneted troops moving along white kids to go to school with black kids.
That's wrong.
Exactly.
And what I was going to mention, exactly.
We're going to go way, way, way, way off topic.
But I appreciate that, Jim.
You know what, Jim, you and I talked about that today.
And I'll just say this very quickly.
And I told you this on the phone, and I think you pretty much said the same thing in a different capacity is I was totally against it then because it wasn't in the interest of white people.
In this case, I would be totally for it because it is in the interest of white people.
Different Perspectives on Force 00:10:51
And there's the consistency, even though it's a polar opposite answer to the use of federal force.
And that's something that had just come up here.
But now, you were mentioning the.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
Go ahead, Cook.
Well, I would just.
All right.
So just getting back.
I mean, that's sort of, you know, it's tangentially related.
It's out in the weeds compared to what this issue in Minneapolis right now.
Getting back to the topic at hand on the ground there, because this thing has escalated every day for the last week and a half.
I mean, it is a surefire tent situation up there that's only getting worse.
You have the Minneapolis chief of police.
He's on the side of the lawbreakers.
They're still attacking local cops, not just ICE and other federal personnel up there in Minneapolis.
Video footage online of the Minneapolis police, including Chief Brian O'Hara, who defended the anti-ICE rioters.
They're getting chased down and attacked by the rioters.
They're there to defend.
I mean, this is, I mean, a rabbit dog doesn't differentiate.
So, again, you're looking at that, and you're also seeing this, Jim.
You know, also footage on social media of ICE officers being surrounded by gangs of Somalians and other so-called protesters and forced to retreat.
You see, I've seen four or five ICE officers just get engulfed, completely circled by encircled by 100 blacks, and they're retreating.
What is it like for you as a cop to see that?
Because you end up against some pretty stiff odds.
Right.
No, I mean, you have a right to defend yourself there.
So, why is he shooting some white lady who's driving away and they're running away from Somalians?
You see what I'm saying?
That's more of a case for to use your weapon.
You threaten, you say, there's a hundred Somalians out there.
Maybe that has something to do with it, Jim.
Well, but yeah, I mean, but at the same time, I see Jim.
But, Jim, how many people have you?
Yeah, go ahead.
I'll give you a story.
This is a true story.
I arrested a drug dealer that was going to assassinate another drug dealer in the project.
So, I chased the guy and we saved the one drug dealer's life.
And then I chased the guy.
I was by myself.
I ran through all the projects.
I finally caught up to the guy, knocked him down, arrested him.
I had him cuffed, and I had 50, 60 blacks around me throwing bricks saying, kill the white cop.
And they wanted to take my prisoner.
And I didn't, of course, they're not going to take him.
So I pulled out my weapon and I said, You better back off or I'm going to use it.
And they kept away until I made it to some backup when the backup came.
So you can defend yourself.
You can.
You don't run away.
Cops don't run away.
Cops don't kneel.
Cops don't stand down.
Cops don't have no go zones.
This is an emasculated country and it's an emasculated police department.
I'm a dinosaur, but damn it, I did my freaking job.
And they don't want guys like me anymore.
That's why.
But that's how you handle that situation.
So you've got ICE guys that are quick to shoot some lady in the face.
I get it.
Maybe he was justified.
But then you run away from 50 Somalians.
That's how you lose control of the situation.
You never run.
I'd rather die than freaking run.
But these guys don't got it, man.
They don't.
Amy, I can see the headlines now if they pulled out their guns and mowed down the 50 or 100 people around.
But you'd actually have to, first of all, brother.
Listen, you don't have to mow down 50 guys.
You just pull your gun out and say, if you come, if you threaten our lives, we're going to use these guns.
That's it.
And then go to court with it.
But I mean, how could you, if this 50 against three or four is bad odds, and you don't know what they're carrying?
So what I'm saying is you're worried about the repercussions.
You can't, you know, it said better to be tried by 12 than carried by six.
That's a police officer's creed.
Better to be tried.
Neither is a good situation, Jim.
No, no, that's the problem.
They're never good situations, but Minneapolis is out of fucking control.
Forgive my language.
It's out of control.
And if Trump really wanted to do something, these mayors could be arrested for interfering, but they don't do it because they want this chaos.
Yes, anytime you interfere, and I always said this, I worked with many, all of the three-letter agencies, ATF, PEA, FBI, they would request me to come with them because they had warrants and we went after bad guys.
But we could never say, no, we're not going to back you off because we don't like you.
You can't do that.
If they got a legal warrant or a legal reason, we're going to do it.
We're going to back off.
We got to do it.
That's the law.
Well, we got the National Guard in Memphis right now.
And in Memphis, where sanity still reigns, the police and the National Guard work together.
The local police are very happy to have the National Guards here.
They've worked through all their backlog of unserved warrants, for example.
Well, that's fine.
It's okay.
Yeah, but see, you're going to be in Minnesota.
What you've got is you've got a government that doesn't have authority, doesn't have sovereignty, basically defying and obstructing justice by a agency that does have sovereign authority.
Okay, so you're saying as a lawyer, then the mayor's breaking the law, then he could be arrested.
Then why don't they arrest him?
Make a point.
If you arrest one of these, I know, I know, but listen, if you arrest one of these mayors who is defying the law, then they're all going to stop doing it because they don't want to go to jail, you know?
And you got to make a example.
Now, one other thing, ICE got to get back into going after gangs and all this other stuff.
Those Somali guys, they should all be arrested and deported.
But you got to go after those guys and you'll get the country behind you.
You got to stop dragging people out of Target, working in a Target.
It's stupid.
And then they're asking regular Americans for their citizens.
Would you want to be stopped by a nice agent and say, hey, let me see your ID?
Are you going to be happy with that?
We shouldn't have to do that.
It's a slippery thing.
My father told me when I was a teenager, he said, if you're ever stopped by the cops, smile every chance you get and tell him, yes, sir, and no, sir.
Well, you also, Jim had mentioned earlier today.
Well, it's interesting that, you know, Minneapolis is caught lightning in a bottle twice, going back to the Derek Chauvin and the summer of George Floyd insurrection.
And we'll talk about the Insurrection Act in the last half hour.
And then now, Renee Goode.
But, you know, there's as much as it has escalated, and there is a lot of unrest in Minneapolis right now, a lot of arson, a lot of, you know, really low-level violence.
But number one, the cold is keeping a lot of the blacks in right now this time of year.
And it was a white lesbian who they're not going to come.
You know, they're not going to come in her defense as they did for George Floyd.
It's just like the left is never, the blacks are never going to erect any monuments to Earl Warren.
So, but where might this go is the question because it has intensified nightly for the past week and a half.
I mean, where do you see this a week from now before the break?
A quick answer to that.
And then we got so much more with you in the next half hour.
It's going to go nowhere good because if this thing keeps going like this, we are going to have some type of martial law in certain spots.
And there is going to be more escalation because I believe that this is intended.
It's intentional.
And I think it can't be allowed to get out of hand like the Floyd thing.
And the George Floyd thing was another thing where the cops hung around too long.
I mean, they had George Floyd in the car, handcuffed and arrested.
He should have been taken to the precinct.
Why did they take them out again and then put their knees on it?
It's like they want to create a situation.
You know, cops have to do their job and get the hell out.
That's what you do.
You don't hang around.
That's what urban police know that.
You don't stand around and wait for everybody to disperse.
You just go.
You got your arrest and go.
That's it.
The crowd will disperse.
But, you know, this is all on purpose.
These cops don't know how to do their job anymore.
And that's always true.
And they're not being told by their superiors how to do it.
But everybody's afraid to give a command today because, you know, all the lawsuits and all the liability.
Should the local cops be arrested if they obstruct the ICE officers from doing their job?
Well, the music is playing, so we'll have to come back to that question.
But we've got another half hour with retired police officer Jim Lancia.
I mean, he's done the hardcore policing too, folks.
He's not writing parking tickets.
He's not writing speeding tickets.
Interesting thing about this case, though, is how the two different sides could see the same video so entirely differently.
We'll talk about that too when we come back.
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And we are back with retired police officer Jim Lancia, author of Downtown White Police, Demonizing the Alpha Cop, Glorifying Thugs, and Militarizing Law Enforcement.
He's back tonight to provide his expert opinion on the ICE shooting of Renee Goode in Minneapolis and just a little more information.
It's a high situation up there in Minneapolis altogether.
You know, it's not just Renee Good.
All of it.
Well, I mean, you know, that was the thing that got it all started.
But I will say a couple of announcements very quickly before we go back to Jim.
Number one, get the book at Amazon.com, Downtown White Police by James Lanzia.
Cabinet's Grip on Biden 00:15:51
He grew up on the same streets he would go on to patrol as a poor white male with no white privilege.
He has the credibility worth listening to, along with his truthful social and political analysis.
He, in his book, incorporated his real-life police experiences to reveal to the public the true side of race and policing, which shows a much different picture than what the public is spoon-fed by in the gender-driven media today.
And he is here to talk about that situation that Keith just detailed tonight.
And just a quick announcement, though, there is about a two or three second delay between what Jim is hearing and what we are speaking.
So it seemed as though there was a little bit of extra crosstalk in that first 30 minutes.
It is because of the delay, which is an oddity.
And we'll try to work on that here in this second half hour.
Still so much to cover.
Jim, Keith had asked a question before the break, and I'll let you take that and we'll move forward.
Okay.
No lawful law enforcement, if a law enforcement agency, whether it's federal, local, or state, if they're in the process of a lawful arrest in their jurisdiction, no other law enforcement agency has a right to interfere with that unless the said officer making the arrest is using excessive force and they feel they need to intervene.
So that goes for all law enforcement agencies.
In fact, my chief of police, there's a chapter in my book about my chief of police arresting an FBI informant and the FBI showing up and wanting to take them away from them.
And my chief of police threatened to arrest the FBI agent.
So it happens.
It can be done.
I mean, if somebody's interfering with something, it can be done.
You try to avoid it, of course, because we all got to work together.
I mean, that's a very rare thing.
But in this day and age, it looks like it's becoming commonplace, and that has to be rectified, or we're going to have chaos.
One thing, Jim, that I think we need to talk about is I don't think these ICE officers go out there serving an arrest warrant.
I don't think they have, I'm looking for Curly, Larry, and Mo, and I'm trying to get them.
I don't know about that.
Sometimes they're trying to find out who are illegals around there.
And for example, I heard about them being run out of a restaurant or something when they were trying to.
They found out that a lot of the staff was illegal, but they didn't have specific arrest warrants for them.
They just knew that they were violating the law.
How do you handle that situation?
Okay, well, you might not have an arrest warrant in the terms of ICE, but if they know there's illegal workers in there, they certainly can do it without rushing in there.
They can notify the owner and they could even tell the owner, like you're harboring illegals, and then they can arrest the owner.
If you start arresting owners of restaurants knowingly hiring these guys, they're going to change their tune pretty quickly.
Okay.
But warrant or not, it's like we could do things with warrants, without warrants when it's called exigent circumstances.
If we're chasing a guy, a felon, and he runs into a house, we have the right to kick that door in without a warrant because we're following a fleeing felon.
But these guys are just pulling up on places.
Look, yeah, high pursuit, exigent circumstances.
But so what happens is, if we're going to just on the pretext of going after, what if he wants to, they want to come in your house and say, someone says you're harboring 50 Haitians in your house and they kick your door in.
Are you going to like that?
No, because that's what it's going to lead to.
Because these guys don't give a crap about white people or anything else.
I really don't.
You know, most of the ICE officers are Hispanic.
Did you know there's a high percentage of Hispanics?
Well, they're not.
It's a big advantage to speak Spanish, I imagine.
Well, you're right.
You're not talking about the kind of police.
Right.
I got no problem with it, but they're not good for you.
Talking about the kind of cop you were.
Yeah, but yeah.
So what I'm saying is they don't, they don't care if you're white.
I mean, in fact, they'll make a point to make it worse if you're white because they'll show that, look, we're not racist, so let's beat up a white dude, you know, or let's, you know what I'm saying?
This is how bad it's going to get.
And it's not going to be good.
I mean, it's just not because you've got two extremes, two extremes, one overly not doing anything and one overly aggressive.
It's not gonna, it's not good.
Well, even the ICE officer in question is a white man, it appears to be, but uh, but in an interracial marriage.
But all right, so resetting here, resetting now.
And we do have to move quickly, and there's a lot to get into on a federal level and insurrection action talk and all of that.
But the again, what I was saying before the break was, and it just goes to show again the extent to which America is involved in an irreconcilable relationship with all of the different people living and competing for power in this geographical space that we call the United States.
This tower of Babel that America has become.
You know, one side sees it as an obvious, justifiable shooting.
The other side sees it as obviously murder.
And there's just no way to reconcile that now.
But here we go.
So, Jim, you are put in charge of the whole kitten caboodle.
You are the one that Trump taps to arrest the crisis, so to speak.
And what would your recommendations be?
Because again, to go back to what we spoke about earlier in the hour, you got the governor of Minnesota, Tampon Tim Waltz, the effeminate Jewish mayor of Minneapolis.
They're basically calling for war.
I don't think that that is putting it too bluntly.
They are calling it a federal invasion.
They actually sued the United States saying this was a federal invasion.
To your point, somebody should have told Mississippi and Arkansas that's all they had to do, right?
Back in the 60s.
But they're using their positions of power to advise citizens to be disruptive, to go and antagonize the officers there for future lawsuits.
This is the governor of Minnesota speaking.
A very volatile situation.
Yes, it's a volatile situation.
Well, if I had carte blanche to do something and to advise and to even get it done, I would reverse the Hart Seller Act, you know, the Immigration Act of 65, first of all.
Now we're talking about this.
Then I would arrest all the people involved in this recent mass migration, starting with Maorkis and Biden and all the, even if you couldn't go after the president, everybody involved with that would be brought to trial because they allowed this.
That's the worst invasion the country's ever had.
Then what you do is you cut off all the benefits.
I don't know if these people are still getting benefits.
You send them home.
A lot of them are going.
You send them home.
You arrest companies that aren't hiring Americans because they're getting off by not having to pay taxes and all that stuff.
And so you do a lot of that.
It'll clean itself up.
But then when you go out, you got to go after the gangs.
You got to go after the violent people.
If these ICE guys would go after violent people, they'd be looked at as heroes.
But they're going after soft targets.
We in the law enforcement community don't respect that.
That's why I was in elite units because I wanted to go after the really shitty guys, the bad guys, the violent guys.
And I loved it.
And that's what you need for that.
You need guys that are willing to go after the violent and overpower them.
And as far as Trump goes, I would tell him to get off the Zion train, the Zionist thing.
Stop hiring all Zionists.
They're all Zionists.
And they're all Zionists in Biden's cabinet.
They control our country.
You don't want to go there.
But that's why we're in this position because you've got liberal Zionists that want to pollute the country with non-whites.
And then you got the neocon Zionists who want us in forever wars.
And they want our young white boys to do the fighting.
Okay?
And they don't care about us.
And Trump has got to surround Zionists.
And I think he's compromised with these Epstein files.
And he'll start World War III so that him and his buddies don't go to jail.
That is a fact.
Well, the problem, at least from the Southern perspective, is that every left-wing movement that we have suffered through, the civil rights movement, the feminist movement, the homosexual rights movement, the no-fault divorce initiative, everything has been masterminded, financed, and directed by Jewish power and influence.
You certainly have a ground-level view of all this living in the New York area where Jews rule.
Okay, let's just be perfectly honest about it.
Yeah, but they also rule, but they also, listen, they also rule Florida.
They rule many states, every state.
They roll both coaches and now more of the country.
Listen, that idiot, Christy Noam, who didn't even know what was that thing?
She didn't know.
I forgot.
She didn't know that term.
What if she didn't know?
Now I can't even remember.
But she didn't have to put a law in South Dakota.
Yeah.
What?
Modus operande.
Yeah.
She didn't even know what that was.
And then she put a law in South Dakota to protect what?
The 250 Jews that are there?
And she said, oh, they're God's people.
They need special.
Police don't think that the don't think that the Trump administration is protecting whites because whites are still the only people in this country that could be legally discriminated.
We know.
We know.
Believe me.
Yeah, but Jews have protection.
They're white-skinned, but they have protection.
We don't.
So forget about this.
Oh, well, he's a little bit better.
They're all the same.
Biden's whole cabinet was Jewish.
But if you really look at them all, and Trump's whole cabinet is Jewish, everybody.
That's not fair representation.
Well, all right.
Literally, Biden's whole cabinet was Jewish.
Trump's cabinet may be beholden to Jewish interests, but they are white Gentiles.
Are you going to be a success in government or in business?
You have to make peace with the Jews.
That's what Trump learned from.
Listen, okay, I'm going to say one thing.
I have to say, technically, they're white.
Let me say, wait a minute, wait a minute.
If the Jews weren't against whites and Christians, and if they were making the country run well and the trains running on time, I would say, okay, but they're not.
They're helping their billionaire friends, and we're suffering.
I know that.
I know, but if we don't.
I agree on that.
We're five by five with you, Jim, on this.
We have said that too.
Yes, if Jews had all of their power and influence and they were using it, wielding it to our advantage, we would be the most pro-Zionist people in the world.
Now, I get all of that.
Disagree a little bit on the utility of Trump.
And it is not a monolithic thing by white nationalists to see him differently and through different lenses and different varying degrees of success.
A lot of people disagree about that.
Not important.
Don't worry about it.
I don't worry about it.
But now, I want to ask you this, though, about the Insurrection Act, which has been invoked 30 times throughout American history by 17 different presidents.
And again, regardless of how anyone listening tonight feels about Trump, as I have said before, my position is I'm on whatever side is good for white people on any given issue.
And depending on the issue, my position can change depending on whether it is being used for the good of whites or not.
And Trump does tend to cry wolf a lot on the Insurrection Act.
He mentions it a lot.
He hasn't gone in.
Jim, you said this today earlier on the phone.
If they would go in and do this thing, but it would benefit whites, even you would be for it, even though Trump might be wielding the pen.
But if history is in any indicator, he won't go all in, although the National Guard is arriving on the scene.
This is what Steve Bannon said.
I don't like Steve Bannon.
I will say that.
I'm a lot more favorable of Trump than Bannon.
I don't like Bannon.
He's disheveled.
He's sloppy.
He's slovenly.
But he did write this.
It's a viable option.
If something isn't done, there's going to be more bloodshed.
Insurrection Act, troops, mass deportations, bingo, bango, bongo.
That's Steve Bannon.
Agree or disagree, Jim, from your position as number one, an advocate for our people, and number two, as a former police officer.
Okay, well, I'll say this: if there was no other ulterior motive by Trump or anybody else but to get these illegals out and make America better, then maybe using Minnesota as an example or as a test, a testing ground for that, then okay.
But you got to make arrests.
Big people have to be arrested, and that's how you get things done.
And if you do that, then maybe you do that, you do it there, and then everybody else will start falling in line.
That's if there is no ulterior motive.
But didn't he just recently say that he was going to let Venezuelans stay in now because he took Maduro and everything?
I mean, it's all he's all over the place.
You know, so, okay, we're not going to get into the Trump thing because I know you got a lot of boomers listening, so they're not going to like me now.
That's it.
I don't care what.
I got one right here.
I got one right here.
I got one boomer right here to my right.
And I imagine Jim Lanche is one too.
Were you born before 64?
No, he.
But I know what's going on.
So do I. Listen, listen.
If there's no other ultimate motivation.
Yeah, if there's no other ulterior motive and he really just wanted to do the right thing, I would say go ahead.
These assholes are going to interfere with cleaning the country out, but you still got to go after the people that let him in, like Majorkis.
You know, Majorca is Jewish, right?
Did you know that?
You didn't know that.
I did.
Everybody was Jewish in that administration.
Everybody was Jewish in that administration.
Did you know that AOC?
Did you know AOC is Jewish?
He's a Sephardic.
Come on.
Oh, look it up.
She said it herself.
Did you know Anna Paula Luna is Jewish?
Yeah.
Max Luma.
Laura Loomer, all these people.
Not Laura Luma.
Anna Paula Luna.
Anna Paulina Luna.
Yeah, I know both of them.
They're both Jewish.
All right.
But yeah, Loomer was obvious.
But Paulina Luna is one of.
We are being run by them, okay?
They're running us into the ground.
And that's it.
I mean, God, I don't know what to say.
There's a lot of good Jewish relations.
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Jim, you're right about all of it.
And as you know, they say in Europe, the Jews like to own both sides of each coin.
So all the conservatives and all the liberals are Jews.
All right.
We get that.
We know that.
We've been doing this for 21 years.
Jim, you know, we know that.
I know you know that.
And, but again, nothing is going to change.
Listen, nothing is going to change until they understand that we're occupied.
Did you know that the Millet, that one that Trump gave 40 billion to to Argentina?
Did you know that he's Netanyahu's cousin?
His name is Milikowski.
He changed it.
He's Jewish.
He's Jewish and he's running.
Now he's ruining Argentina.
But we gave everything we do.
The war in Ukraine is they're killing off all these Christian white guys.
Zelensky's Jewish.
He's a dictator now.
And we allowed that.
Victoria Newland was the primary person that started the color revolution that led to the war over there.
And she is the wife of Kagan, Robert Kagan.
All right, see, Jim, here's the thing.
Here's the thing, Jim.
When you mentioned Jewish power and influence, to use one of Keith's slogans, it's like waving a bloody bone in front of a bulldog.
It's like throwing a bloody bone to a bulldog.
We're going to get out in the weeds.
No, no, no.
I have to get that out there.
Let's get back on the law enforcement now.
Okay, let's get back on the law enforcement.
What do you think about this?
All right, listen.
And again, and again.
All right, I'll get to that real quick, but I will say this too, because again, with this audience and with everybody that we interview on this program, and we interview anybody that's producing good fruit for white interests, there is an impasse to agree to disagree on the utility of Trump.
And Jim, as I said to you before, I'm not pro-Trump or anti-Trump.
I mean, I could take you more leaving.
The question is, through which lens do you view whether or not anything good is happening for whites?
And that's the question.
But now let's get to this.
Brutal honesty here.
So the ICE situation in Minnesota, and this was posted this week, may be, and I'd love to get your take on this, a defining moment for how the next 10 years look.
Any weakness right now, we are seeing some weakness up there.
It means fueling the worst domestic terrorists.
You know, we've seen pictures from North Minneapolis this week where rioters were destroying federal vehicles.
They stole firearms, ammunition, sensitive documents.
All of this was captured on live streams on iPhone videos.
They're attacking Minneapolis police and police cars, even though they are all in the tank for these people.
Again, no matter how you slice it, if Trump has not learned anything from the summer of Floyd, and we'll find out very soon, I mean, we'll find out within the next few days, really, then that is a big red flag.
And you really need, you really need, and I know that a part of your book, a big part of your book is talking about the concern you have about militarizing law enforcement, but somebody's got to put these people down.
These people have to be put down.
I mean, these people are not our friends either.
The ones out in the street.
Well, listen, it's one thing, but militarizing it is going to make us all being treated like criminals.
So how do you avoid treating good people like criminals?
You see what I'm saying?
We knew the difference between the criminals and the good people.
The good people liked us.
The bad people hated us and were afraid of us.
But if you want to talk about this, it's going to be bad because no matter what happens, when the left gets back in, they're going to go even crazier.
So something has to give.
I mean, something has to give.
So if Trump really wants to do something good.
Well, we know all about it here in the South and call it secession.
Yeah, what has to give.
What's wrong with that?
Listen, I'm going to say something.
Why does America have to be a federalized 50 state?
You've got such extreme ideology.
Make parts of it liberal and parts of it conservative for other people.
We can't be cajoled.
Amen.
We can't be cajoled to just have one ideology.
That's not American.
You know, we just can't.
If they want their liberal utopias, let them have them, but we don't have to live in them.
It's just like the integration, man.
They forced white kids to go to school with blacks.
And look at the school system now.
And the freaking 101st Airport had no problem pointing bayonets at white kids with school books.
Screw that shit.
You know what I mean?
That's the military.
Oh, keep out and preaching, brother.
Yeah, but Jim, I want you behind a pulpit in a Southern Baptist church tomorrow.
Yeah, but only I'm not full of shit, though.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not a phone.
Jim, I love you.
You are my brother for all these years.
This guy is on something right now.
Yeah, go ahead.
The last thing I'm going to do is.
I'm going to ask my last questions.
I'm going to give Jim.
I'm not even going to ask any other questions.
The book is Downtown White Police.
I don't even want to.
Well, I mean, you know, we could go on about.
All right.
No, you just tell me.
What about the Insurrection Act?
Okay, Insurrection Act.
Should it be enforced and should they be put down with prejudice?
Well, yeah, in my estimation, if these guys want to get these immigrants out, these illegal immigrants, and they're being pushed back physically by the governor or the mayor, yes, I think you should do something extreme in order to make an example and get the job done.
But it shouldn't last a long time.
You should get the job done, make an example, and then see where that goes.
Because it's not going to be pretty anytime soon.
It's going to get ugly.
This country is getting very ugly.
I'm reading comments coming in right now about how much you are loved and how much this commentary.
I love passion on a radio program.
People don't want to hear all this.
This is real talk, and we are privileged to be able to present Jim Lancia to an AM talk radio audience.
And of course, you know, throughout the country and around the world on the internet.
Jim, I appreciate you very much.
I appreciate your passion for our people, your passion for the law, your passion for putting down criminals.
Well, it's like my grandfather used to say, you'll call a spade a dirty shovel.
And that's what we look for on this show.
So again, a final word is to you with about a minute remaining.
And as you said before, we do not do this often enough.
We've been doing it for years and years and years.
I mean, it has to be 10, 15 years now.
We've been in cahoots, but we don't do it enough.
We will do it more.
Final word to you, a minute left this hour.
All right.
Well, you know that I've been impassioned, but I agree with you guys.
You're good Americans, and that's why I do this show.
So whether we disagree a little bit on certain things, it doesn't matter.
We're all European men, and we love this country, and we know that it's geared up against us, and it's never going to be made right unless it's done right.
And I don't have all the answers, but we got to start somewhere.
Thank you guys.
I appreciate it.
Unless we're back in control.
Yeah, well, I mean, again, you know, is it good for white people?
That's the barometer that you gauge every question on every issue.
And your answer can change, and you still remain consistent.
Jim, thank you.
The book is Downtown White Police.
I mean, we have done full interviews hours long on just Jim's career, his history as a cop, that whole story.
I mean, I like to remind you of that when he's on to talk about contemporary issues, but you got to get his book at Amazon, Downtown White Police, James Lancy.
It's like James was saying, you know, the Jews say, is it good for the Jews?
We say, and Jim does too, is it good for the whites?
We'll talk to you again very soon, Jim.
God bless you, brother.
Stay safe down there.
Amen, brothers.
God bless.
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