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| You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool. | |
| The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. | |
| And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards. | |
| Folks, it has been a blistering start. | |
| What a barn burner start to the new year. | |
| I mean, this is our ninth hour of the new year, and we have had nine different guests, starting with David Zuddy in the first hour of the first show of the new year. | |
| He was originally purposed to be on to discuss the Anfest, TPUSA's Anfest. | |
| He watched all the speeches, so we didn't have to. | |
| That was the billing for that hour. | |
| And then we repurposed him to talk about the situation in Venezuela because that happened right at the same time as our live show. | |
| And then we went to Harry Cooper. | |
| Always fun with Harry. | |
| Then we went to South Africa with Simon Roche and our friends Rich and Janice Hamblin. | |
| Last week, you know, another big show last week with Patrick Martin, Jose Niño, and Taylor Young from Antelope Hill Publishing. | |
| And then now tonight, I mean, again, retired police officer Jim Lancia, the first hour, last hour, Mark Weber, and now Jason Kessler. | |
| And as you know, folks, I don't care, I don't give a damn about presenting both sides about being balanced. | |
| However, I do believe in having a healthy balance of food of thought. | |
| And because I do see, and I know that white nationalists are not monolithic in their thinking, I view Trump more favorably than disfavorably. | |
| I will still say that, even in light of recent actions and interventionism, and even if it puts me at odds with our first hour guest, Jim Lancia, I still see that Trump has been favorable to white interests more than disfavorable, even if the Jewish power and influence folks have a claw into him, and they do. | |
| All of these things can happen at once. | |
| And so here we are now with Jason Kessler. | |
| He is, of course, a journalist. | |
| The name most familiar with the Unite the Right rally of 2017. | |
| He goes back a long time in this. | |
| He's seen a lot. | |
| He wrote the book, Charlottesville and the Charlottesville book and the death of free speech. | |
| Jason, let's have some balance, though, if we can. | |
| If Israel is your only issue, then Trump's probably going to come up short. | |
| But we do want to have, we want to look at it from all angles and all lenses. | |
| And basically looking at it from what is good for white people. | |
| Well, that's absolutely right. | |
| I mean, again, and then you have Thomas Massey. | |
| You have Thomas Massey. | |
| If you look at him only through his position on Israel, okay, maybe he's good on that, but he's really bad on a lot of things, really on everything else. | |
| He's really bad on immigration. | |
| He's a typical contrarian libertarian. | |
| So again, instead of focusing on one thing, we want to focus on everything in widescreen. | |
| So Jason, can you help us do that by making the case for Trump here one year exactly to his second inauguration? | |
| Where do we begin? | |
| Okay, so first of all, just let me put into context for people that even though I'm going to defend Trump tonight, I am not monolithically in support of him. | |
| I wasn't happy with his first administration. | |
| I didn't vote for him in 2020. | |
| And then I came back on board for 2024. | |
| And I'm glad that I did because I think that the overwhelming net effect of Trump 2.0 is positive for us. | |
| I don't think it's even close. | |
| I think it's overwhelming. | |
| I have a list of a few things, and some of them are direct and have to do with money and with power. | |
| And some things are more symbolic. | |
| For example, his advocacy of the white South Africans. | |
| And yes, it may be largely symbolic, him giving them preferred refugee status, but he is shining a big spotlight on that issue. | |
| And he's talking about issues that no one but the pro-white community were talking about in meetings back in 2016. | |
| Now it's on the world stage. | |
| We are looking at very recently the Fenton L death decrease. | |
| We know Fenton Hill is largely targeting white people. | |
| That rose and then fell a little bit during Biden. | |
| Now it's gone below the Biden numbers. | |
| The foreign-born population has decreased for the first time in about 50 years. | |
| This is the ballgame right here, folks. | |
| We'll get to Israel. | |
| I don't think Israel is the ballgame. | |
| I think it's ending the great replacement and making sure we have a future, not beating our enemies. | |
| We save ourselves and then we beat our enemies. | |
| He's terminated DEI throughout the federal government and contractors. | |
| I mean, it's amazing to me how quickly people forgot about the woke stuff that happened during the end of Trump's first term and really grew into a monstrosity during Biden. | |
| But he's rooting that stuff out, eliminated many minority-focused quote-unquote civil rights programs. | |
| He's put a $100,000 penalty on new visa applications for H-1B applicants. | |
| He cut off all of that foreign aid and leftist patronage money with U.S. AID. | |
| I mean, this is substantial. | |
| This is not just, you know, some podcaster, you know, talking to his echo chamber and saying Trump's not good enough. | |
| He's removing the power of the people who hate us. | |
| He's taking their money away. | |
| 85% of the people. | |
| Let me ask you this, Jason. | |
| I hate to be a naysayer on this, but I agree with most of what you're saying. | |
| But for example, on the great replacement, that can all be undone in four months if the Democrats take the president. | |
| You know, people bring that up. | |
| People bring that up, but I can say, what else can he do? | |
| He is only the president. | |
| And what else can he do? | |
| I mean, what can we do permanently to better the prospects of white people? | |
| I think as the president, you go back a year ago at that blizzard of executive orders a year ago this week and it blew away. | |
| I will tell you this, Jason, and we've talked about this show a lot. | |
| Last year, this particular show, this week, the third week of January, took place on January the 18th of 2025. | |
| Two days later, he was inaugurated. | |
| I had Jared Taylor, Steve King, and Lou Moore on the show that night. | |
| What Trump did in his first week blew past all of their expectations for the first year. | |
| And now here we are a year later. | |
| And so, yes, I see what you're saying, Keith, and I get it all. | |
| I mean, there's pros and cons, and it depends on if you want to view him negatively, there's cause for that. | |
| If you want to view him positively, there's cause for that. | |
| But what is the true view here? | |
| And that's what we're trying to explore here, Jason. | |
| And so, again, I mean, an argument can be made both ways, but I appreciate you coming on tonight to make the case for Trump because a lot of people are down on him after Venezuela. | |
| This first couple of weeks to this year, a lot of whites are saying, you know, what's going on here. | |
| But I still look at this, and I try to look at this as objectively as possible. | |
| Please continue. | |
| We need the exercise of power. | |
| Otherwise, it doesn't matter how much we pump each other up and we naysay and nitpick the people who are in office and are supporting us. | |
| What I tell people, for one thing, is no president in history has had the number of judicial interferences that Trump has had. | |
| 75% of these district court rulings from these lunatic left-wing judges that are being venue shocked are trying to obstruct his immigration agenda. | |
| If you want something permanent, it's not going to come easy. | |
| There's no easy things in this life. | |
| What it means is you have to keep getting people like Trump into office so they slowly replace the judiciary, get these quacks like Bolisberg out of there and get people who are going to be immigration restriction. | |
| And that true liberalism is look at the Supreme Court. | |
| If it wasn't for Trump's picks, we wouldn't have ended affirmative action. | |
| We're on the cusp of having them strike down racial preferences for blacks and redistricting, which is limiting the voting power of white people. | |
| This is important. | |
| And then, of course, that decision on birthright citizenship, which could be a game changer and we would not have without Trump's judicial picks. | |
| See, that's fair. | |
| You know what? | |
| Jason, I've got to tell you, because it's not a popular opinion to have, but it is objective. | |
| It is real. | |
| It is fact-based. | |
| Everything you're saying. | |
| And I was talking to a friend in Washington state a couple of nights ago. | |
| He said, you know, I'm pro-Trump. | |
| He's a white nationalist. | |
| I'm a white nationalist. | |
| I see things through the lens of is it good for our people? | |
| And all of that being said, and with all the things about Jews and Israel and interventionism that can be said, I still, I still tonight view Trump. | |
| And I won't say it's 100% or 0%, but I will say it's better than 50% more favorable than this favorable. | |
| Keith, well, he really hasn't ended affirmative action. | |
| I wish that they have. | |
| They had the opinion, but it hasn't been implemented. | |
| For example, he was going to keep the Chinaman out of our select colleges and universities, but then he caved in on that when pressure from these colleges and universities said we need these people paying double. | |
| Well, that's a finite group or number of people, admission slots to highly selective colleges and universities. | |
| And guess what? | |
| White Gentiles will again be at the back of the bus. | |
| We are 60% of the population and only 20% of the student body in those select colleges and universities. | |
| We have the lowest percentage representation of any racial or ethnic group. | |
| I want to talk to Jason after this break about the judiciary. | |
| And he says the name of the game is transforming the judiciary. | |
| Let's see how Trump is stacking up there. | |
| And he just mentioned the number of cases that have gone against him there. | |
| And which again, it was a point that was brought up last hour. | |
| You can do more internationally than you can here in the States because why he's doing all this international stuff. | |
| All right, well, Keith, we're out of time. | |
| We've got to go. | |
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| Okay, and we're back with Jason Kessler. | |
| Again, not for the purpose of presenting both sides, but because there are so many different ways you could view Trump, even this first year of his second administration, I view it more positively than negatively, but I have a lot of friends who see it differently than that, and some who see it even more favorably than I do. | |
| And so because you exist out there in our listening audience, and because we always are in search of the truth here, and to get things right, I think it's only fair. | |
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| I mean, you know, we've always been fair, I think, about Trump here. | |
| Yours truly, and Keith and our guest. | |
| I mean, if he does things we like, we make mention of it. | |
| If he does things that we disagree with, we bring light to that. | |
| But Jason, you I am one of a few members of a private telegram chat that Jason has initiated, and I really enjoy everything that Jason posts to that select group. | |
| And Jason, you had written this a few days ago. | |
| Why isn't he doing more? | |
| Is a question that a lot of people ask about Trump. | |
| And then you say, but let's talk about his judicial appointments. | |
| And this is, of course, first of all, his judicial appointments. | |
| We'll talk about the lower-level courts, the Supreme Court, it should go without saying, but also the lower levels. | |
| He has been overturned so many times. | |
| You mentioned that a moment ago at the court level. | |
| But you say the name of the game is Transforming the Judiciary, and he gets high marks there. | |
| People don't give him a lot of credit for that, but you can shed light on it. | |
| Yeah, I think that's the name of the game. | |
| And we have to look at what the judiciary looks like without Trump. | |
| You have a lot of self-hating, really radicalized leftist whites. | |
| You have leftist Jews. | |
| You have people who just came to America recently. | |
| They weren't even born here. | |
| And they're sitting on the judiciary making rulings about quote-unquote white supremacy and racism and how Trump's the dictator. | |
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | |
| Meanwhile, 85% of Trump's judicial appointees are white. | |
| I mean, and they're conservative. | |
| They're the best kind of whites. | |
| So that's exactly what we need right now. | |
| And I think that if we're talking about the acquisition of power and getting our agenda through, when you have this separation of power system, then this is everything. | |
| I mean, you can nitpick and say, well, he's not perfect on this or that, but he's a politician. | |
| He's working within the system. | |
| And if he just flagrantly violates the separation of powers, then who knows what they're going to do to this man? | |
| They've already tried to throw him in jail. | |
| This is how our system works. | |
| Well, Jason, the problem with the judiciary is that it can all change in a trice, okay, in a snap of a finger. | |
| In fact, I guarantee you that if a Democrat wins the presidency and they have a majority in Congress, House and Senate, one of the first things they're going to do is pack the Supreme Court, and they'll probably pack other federal judicial districts and whatnot and put their own people in there. | |
| This is why it's so important that we keep Trump or somebody like him in there because everything, you know, we play by the rules. | |
| And unfortunately, the Democrats never had. | |
| And I think we need to stop playing by the rules and play to win. | |
| I got a question for you, Keith, but first a question to Jason, and that is just very quickly, I mean, of course, we know that even though there is things left to be desired from his Supreme Court appointments, the Supreme Court has done a good job under the Trump era. | |
| Through the Trump era, we have had more wins than losses at the Supreme Court. | |
| And you take that to the lower courts, and what kind of people is he stacking on the lower courts, Jason? | |
| You've done a little bit of research on that. | |
| I don't know specifically what you're talking about in terms of, but like I said, there's like radical African supremacists who look like the predator alien or something with their dreadlocks. | |
| Well, you're talking about the Supreme Court. | |
| Wait, no, no, yeah, yeah. | |
| One of the reasons we said that he's doing all this foreign policy is because he's been stymied so much by the likes of Jewish liberal Judge Boesberg and people like that throughout. | |
| Some random U.S. District Court judge somewhere in the United States issues an injunction and he's stopped. | |
| See, this is a systemic problem. | |
| Yeah, we know that. | |
| And Jason, I think what I was referring to a moment ago, I might have caught you off guard with that. | |
| It goes back a couple of months, two or three months on your telegram. | |
| You had mentioned the basically, I mean, Trump is stacking the lower courts with at least white Gentile males. | |
| And he doesn't always get a win, even with his appointments. | |
| We know that. | |
| But that is a far cry from how the other side would have done it. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I mean, this stuff is deadly serious. | |
| Having gone through the Charlottesville situation and having some of the most powerful leftist Jews in not just the country, but the world coming after me with millions of dollars raised from Natalie Portman and Carl Reiner and the guy who founded LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman, all crazy leftist Jews. | |
| You know, I know how the system can be weaponized. | |
| I can see how some guy marching around with the Tiki torch, not hurting anybody, can be brought up on some kind of charge because you have a crazy judge and a crazy locality. | |
| We need to get those bad judges out. | |
| We need to get good judges in. | |
| It's deadly serious. | |
| And besides that, I just want to point out that we are in a crucible right now. | |
| Everybody in this country outside of white nationalism agrees that Trump represents white interests. | |
| MAGA says that he's helping white interests and they see it as a good thing. | |
| All of the leftists in the country say he's a white supremacist. | |
| He's the new KKK, blah, blah, blah. | |
| And he needs more support because he's not backing down in Minnesota when we have George Floyd 2.0 happening right now, except instead of whining about the Insurrection Act and not doing anything, he might not be invoking the Insurrection Act, but he's keeping ICE there. | |
| He's surging ICE. | |
| He's not backing down. | |
| They're bodying leftists left and right, locking these people up, removing Somali fraudsters and pedophiles. | |
| And so what I see happening with a lot of white nationalists, especially because they have Israel as their number one issue, I think even over the interests of white people, unfortunately, is that they act like a hipster whose favorite local band hits it big. | |
| And because they're successful, they don't like him anymore. | |
| So they just want to hate on Trump all the time. | |
| But they're putting themselves in total irrelevancy. | |
| They're helping the leftists by doing that because the world outside of their echo chamber sees Trump as the fight for white people. | |
| And they are attacking the side that is trying to help white people. | |
| I think they feel that he's not going to be making permanent change. | |
| And there's plenty of basis for saying that. | |
| I really don't. | |
| For example, the idea that some random judge in Minnesota can stop his programs with an injunction. | |
| I don't see any solution to that type of problem, Jason, except secession. | |
| Do you see any other solution? | |
| All right, but I mean, you know, secession's good if we're not, if we don't have to play at power. | |
| It's not good if we can. | |
| Look, it's good all the time because right now, even when we have a president, we have an impotent president in many cases because of, you know, left-wing judges in blue state. | |
| No, I don't see it that way. | |
| I see it as if we have centralized power, crush the left, use the state. | |
| Lincoln plus Stalin, that's me if we have the power. | |
| But, Jason, basically, we're going to have the same issue we had with the American Civil War: that there's going to be a problem in the conflict between the federal government and state rights. | |
| And you see, like some of these insane left-wing states like Minnesota saying, well, we're going to have our police, we're going to have our National Guard stopping ICE, stopping the FBI. | |
| And that's just untenable. | |
| If that keeps up, if JD Vance gets in office and has a similar trajectory as Trump, there's going to be a breaking point at some point. | |
| But for right now, we are protecting ourselves by keeping people like Trump in. | |
| Just think of how bad Mitt Romney was. | |
| Think of how bad John McCain was. | |
| We have it so good right now. | |
| And things are getting better all the time because the people that are coming up after Trump are even more hardcore than he is. | |
| When a good thing is rolling, you don't stop it. | |
| Jason, I have to agree with you. | |
| I mean, I get all of the angles. | |
| I know all of the players throughout the entire spectrum of our movement. | |
| And agree or disagree, I know them all. | |
| And I agree that we are in a better situation now, especially if you forecast the long-term trends. | |
| This is not going well for the other side. | |
| This is not going well for Israel. | |
| It's not going well for the Jews. | |
| In the long term, then we just heard on the news flash in between the last common, you know, the last commercial break we had, that Virginia is going to change itself from being six members Democrat and five Republican to nine members Democrat and two Republican. | |
| Well, I mean, we've got to understand that this is, you know, Trump is not the panacea, but what we do need to do is that we definitely are a lot better off with him in than any other Republican. | |
| I mean, you understand the Jewish question. | |
| I mean, you are the bulldog with a bloody bone on that issue, but you are pro-Trump as well simultaneously. | |
| Yeah, the thing is, he doesn't want to wind up dead like JFK, which happens when you start, you know, getting too uppity with the Jews. | |
| That's why, you know, JFK was killed because he was trying to stop them from developing nuclear weapons, and they didn't want to be stopped. | |
| I feel sorry. | |
| 10% of Jews voted against Trump, and yet people make it sound like Trump is a puppet for them or whatever. | |
| No, he isn't. | |
| Well, he's in public for very well. | |
| Now, I see, gentlemen, again, I see both sides really going to turn up the temperature with Jason Kessler when we continue. | |
| Stay tuned, everybody. | |
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| Correspondent Julie Walker reports a judge has put limits on ICE agents when confronted by peaceful protesters in Minneapolis. | |
| A U.S. District Judge has ruled federal officers in a Minneapolis area immigration operation cannot detain or tear guess peaceful protesters who are not obstructing authorities, including when these people are observing the agents. | |
| U.S. District Judge Kate Menendez ruling Friday in a case filed in December on behalf of six Minnesota activists. | |
| I'm Julie Walker. | |
| GOP strategist Erin McGuire says it's a tragedy that Renee Goode was shot by a federal immigration officer during an enforcement operation in Minneapolis. | |
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| They're making her a martyr. | |
| You know, she is now the Minnesota woman to the Maryland man. | |
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| All right, Jason. | |
| I mean, we've been getting real the whole hour. | |
| Let's get really real the last half hour and let's throw some punches here. | |
| This is what you write. | |
| And then we're going to get into Gaza and Iran, and we're going to get into the last 10 years of perspective because you go back that far and longer. | |
| And we'll go back to Charlottesville and then all the way through where we sit here tonight, 2026, with the man who was responsible for the Unite to Right rally. | |
| He's a man with perspective. | |
| That's why, well, not why, but one of the reasons why I'll always enjoy having Jason on this program. | |
| Jason, you wrote this on your Telegram. | |
| I feel like I'm going crazy. | |
| Trump gets no credit for saying civil rights hurts whites. | |
| None for reducing net migration for the first time since Hoover. | |
| None for ending affirmative action. | |
| All of these things are completely unimaginable for any other president to have done. | |
| And by the way, immigration is the only thing that matters. | |
| Take it from there. | |
| Yeah, I think that the competing narrative is that Israel is the only thing that matters. | |
| From my perspective, it's ending the great replacement, making sure that our people survive. | |
| I think Israel is not a first-tier issue. | |
| It's not a second-tier issue. | |
| It's a third-tier issue. | |
| It sucks to have foreign influence like that and giving money to people who don't deserve it. | |
| But we have much bigger problems to fry. | |
| And I don't think that the Zionists are the ones who are most to blame for our immigration woes. | |
| Maybe they were during the neocon days, which people are trying to claim that Trump is becoming a neocon again with his actions. | |
| I'm not. | |
| Well, what the Zionists did do, Jason. | |
| Jason, what the Zionists did do was get the Hart Seller Immigration Nationality Act passed. | |
| We're not talking about the 1960s. | |
| But that was the source of it. | |
| When we get there, we get that. | |
| When we talk, when we were even as recent as the Bush era, you had horrible neocon Jews who were supposedly Republicans and conservatives like Bill Crystal. | |
| Where is Bill Crystal now? | |
| He is totally out of power. | |
| He's got Trump derangement syndrome, and he's typing abolish ICE on his Twitter. | |
| Those people are there's a there is a big, huge difference between going into Iraq, which yes, Israel did support, and having thousands, hundreds of thousands of white Americans die there, and Trump deposing Maduro in a totally bloodless coup, which seems to be totally stable. | |
| It has nothing to do with Iraq. | |
| It's more like Panama when we removed Manuel Noriega, and it worked out perfectly for us. | |
| Time will tell, but it looks to me like he was correct in not trying to change the entire Shabista regime there in Venezuela, but to allow the system to continue to operate with the Shabistas so long as they are under his thumb and doing what we want him to do. | |
| Many of these people who support Israel within his administration are also immigration hawks. | |
| I know it is distasteful to say this in white nationalist circles, but that is more important. | |
| I want people who are congressmen, who are billionaires, supporting immigration restriction. | |
| This guy, Bill Ackman, he's a billionaire Zionist Jew that people hate for that reason. | |
| But he just donated the largest amount to the ICE patriot who stopped that lesbian fanatic in Minneapolis. | |
| He donated $10,000. | |
| I would rather have him donating $10,000 to support our white heroes who are immigration patriots than giving that $10,000 to some blue-haired freak. | |
| And that's the way that I come down on it. | |
| Later in a generation or two, when the young people take power, Israel is going to lose so much influence in this country because the young people do not support Israel. | |
| But there's no reason to be dividing the pro-white movement, making Israel the hill to die on right now. | |
| No, we are not going to have a future in a generation if we do not stop this immigration problem right now. | |
| And you're forecasting all of that, Jason, on the current trends that Israel is going to be waning in power as subsequent generations come into power because there's no support for them with people under 40 years old. | |
| American support. | |
| Well, I think that it's fundamentalists and not boomers that are the big problem, but still, and fundamentalists of all ages. | |
| But let me say this. | |
| I don't really care about the Palestinian issue. | |
| The Palestinian issue, Palestinians are not interested in white southerners, and consequently I'm not interested in them. | |
| Same thing for the Venezuelans. | |
| So I've got no criticism of Trump on any of that. | |
| I just want people to realize that it's not time to sit back, kick back, and say, oh, it's on autopilot. | |
| We've got Donald Trump in there and all's good with the world. | |
| It isn't. | |
| No, absolutely not. | |
| We need to keep fighting. | |
| This is a change that happens very slowly. | |
| There are no ultimate victories unless the country collapse and we start some kind of hot war. | |
| Then I guess there will be an ultimate victory. | |
| But I say that that might just be a fantasy. | |
| Maybe that'll never happen. | |
| So are we going to seed our future by not playing the political game? | |
| A lot of people are trying to make the case that everything is to deal with Israel. | |
| Charlie Kirk's about Israel. | |
| Iran's about Israel. | |
| Venezuela's about Israel. | |
| I just want to posit that these countries also are opposed to America, and they want to make America not a unipolar power. | |
| They want to join with BRICS, and they want to make it a bipolar or multipolar world. | |
| And that hurts us when we try to use sanctions to get changes without war. | |
| And you have Venezuela saying, well, I've got your back, Iran, or Iran saying, I've got your back, Russia, then they dilute our influence. | |
| Maduro is anti-white communist. | |
| He was ranting about supremacy Blanca when he was in power. | |
| The Ayatollah Khomeini, after our Charlottesville rally, which was the largest rally in support of white interests in the 21st century, he wrote, if the U.S. has any power, they better manage their country, tackle white supremacy rather than meddle in nation's affairs. | |
| Hashtag Charlottesville. | |
| And he posted a picture of himself carrying a black baby. | |
| I mean, these people are not Americans to die. | |
| I don't want anything like that to happen, but I'm not going to cry for these people if, you know, their regime's top. | |
| Yeah, to your point, Jason, I mean, I was down there. | |
| I was down with David Duke last summer, and we were talking about this. | |
| And I said, David, you know, I got to tell you, brother, you know, I love David. | |
| I mean, David's like a surrogate father. | |
| But I said, I don't give a damn about the Muslims in Gaza. | |
| I don't. | |
| I mean, I don't, no more than I gave a damn about the Tutsis and the Hutus. | |
| I just don't care what the Sand people do to one another. | |
| Jews or Arabs alike, neither of them are friends of ours. | |
| It's genocide. | |
| Yes, it's sad, you know, to see the pictures of these little babies blown up in the hospitals and the tent cities and all of that. | |
| I get all of that. | |
| But you know what? | |
| To hell with both of them. | |
| Honestly. | |
| Honestly, to hell with both of them. | |
| And this thing, to your point, I mean, here's the premier of Iran saying if the U.S. had any power, they need to tackle white supremacy rather than meddle in our affairs. | |
| Hashtag Charlottesville. | |
| To hell with you too, son. | |
| And it is a little bit different, you know, with Iran because you get into more Persia and Indo-Aryan stuff. | |
| But, you know, I'm for white people. | |
| You know, the Jews are Christians who oppose Khomeini. | |
| You know, they won't go away just because that regime ends. | |
| Well, what I was going to say is this. | |
| The Jews have a principle that always prevails, which is, is it good for the Jews? | |
| I have a similar principle, which is, is it good for white Gentiles? | |
| And if it's good for white Gentiles, then I'm for it. | |
| If it doesn't affect white Gentiles one way or another, I'm more or less. | |
| Well, That being said, bombing Iran is not in favor of white Gentiles, you know, more than supporting Israel is. | |
| I'm not that concerned about bombing Iran, okay? | |
| I think bombing Iran is a lot better than putting boots on the ground in Iran. | |
| Well, as long as Trump limits our military actions to surgical strikes, especially ones that actually achieve the objective and there's no casualties, I mean, I'm not really in favor of intervention, but I don't care. | |
| I want to support the administration that is reducing the foreign-born population in the United States, period. | |
| End of story. | |
| That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't criticize his foreign policy moves if they have a problem with it. | |
| But some people become so deranged over it that they take a side against Trump on every other issue because they're, I mean, they're just vindictive. | |
| They're angry because he doesn't, he has a different view on Israel than they do, which sucks. | |
| Well, that's no reason to throw out all the good stuff. | |
| Well, what James and I were talking about is that there's a difference between the theoretical and the practical. | |
| These theoretical conservatives that say, oh, he's not a person who's not a person who's a man who's a white nationalist even. | |
| Yeah, you know, the Constitution is being violated. | |
| To hell with the Constitution. | |
| I'm worried about white Gentiles. | |
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| All right, stay tuned. | |
| We're going to continue this. | |
| I thought we had 30 minutes left. | |
| Jason, where's the time go? | |
| Where'd that other segment go? | |
| Time flies. | |
| Really got to go fast now. | |
| Nine hours, nine guests so far in 2026. | |
| We'll be back to wrap this one up next, I guess. | |
| Stay tuned. | |
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| Well, apparently one segment left with Jason Kessler. | |
| Course, the man who was responsible for the Night the Right rally. | |
| I mean, I don't know how many of our guests are going to go down in history books, but Jason Kessler will be one of them. | |
| That's for sure, as a result of that singular action. | |
| But there's a lot more to Jason than that. | |
| He was a journalist prior to, and still to this day, a man whose opinions I very much enjoy hearing and presenting to you here on this radio program. | |
| And so, Jason, give the folks the link, by the way, to where they can purchase Charlottesville and the Death of Free Speech. | |
| Sure. | |
| Right now, it's just on the website dissident.press. | |
| I'm working on trying to get it back on Amazon, but for now, it's just dissident.press. | |
| And there you will have the most insightful and comprehensive treatment on what really happened, really the who, what, where, when, and how, the before, during, and after, all of it. | |
| Jason Kessler, who could give you a better take on what happened in Charlottesville than the man who organized it? | |
| There is the link and go by the book. | |
| So, Jason, with that having been established, let's go back now 10 years. | |
| 10 years ago tonight, Trump was on the cusp of being inaugurated for the first time. | |
| For the first time. | |
| And, well, where are we now? | |
| From 2016 to 2026, the vibe, the overall vibe pertaining to our issues and advancement, are we better off now than we were 10 years ago? | |
| I mean, that is the only way you can really assess a question and a situation is to say, not what happens in the short term week by week or even month by month, but a decade. | |
| That's a pretty good, that's a pretty good standard of measurement. | |
| Are we better off now as white Americans than we were 10 years ago and why? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I mean, besides all the policy objectives that I mentioned earlier, the main thing is that white consciousness is rising. | |
| That means we are winning. | |
| That means that our priorities are going to be what the Republican priorities are if we keep pushing, if we do not allow them to back away and go to the Thomas Massey land of I vote 90% with the Republicans. | |
| Yeah, just on stupid fiscal stuff. | |
| I don't care about fiscal stuff. | |
| I care about white people. | |
| And that's where the conservative movement is going. | |
| So, yeah, we're in a much better place. | |
| And if we just keep going in this direction, we need to get as radicalized as the left is. | |
| And we've come a long way in that direction. | |
| The left is scary radicalized. | |
| And we need to be strong enough to meet them in that plane. | |
| Well, so again, Jason, I mean, here we are, 10 years later, you're giving this assessment. | |
| And if you're giving this assessment, and it's coming from the viewpoint of have white interests advanced in the last 10 years, for right or for wrong, I mean, the man in charge gets the credit. | |
| The boss gets the credit. | |
| The coach gets the credit. | |
| The general manager, the owner, gets the credit and denies it in some ways. | |
| But on the other hand, white consciousness certainly has increased. | |
| And I think white interests have been served, even if not intentionally, by the Trump administration. | |
| You've got to credit the internet for allowing some of our ideas to proliferate in ways that they previously would have been censored. | |
| But really, what has given white consciousness the moment that it is continuing to experience is the potency that it has with having the most powerful man in the world validating our ideas. | |
| And he's getting so much better since 2016. | |
| People used to say, oh, he never says white. | |
| He says white all the time, like you were saying in the previous segment. | |
| He said that black civil rights hurt white people. | |
| Things like that are cornerstone ideals of white nationalist thought. | |
| And it does mean something for the president of the United States to be saying that. | |
| We have made enormous inroads in proliferating our ideas into the mainstream. | |
| All right, so let's bring it back now to rather than the last 10 years and the widescreen view of Trump, even with Israel and the Jewish question being, of course, something that is on our minds. | |
| Anybody who's ever listened to this show for the last 22 years knows that we understand that question and still with a very firm grasp and understanding of that question, we still see this thing objectively and we look at it from all angles because the only thing that we are in servitude to is white interest. | |
| And so whether you love Trump or hate Trump, he's irrelevant to me. | |
| But I'm going to be honest about whether or not things have happened that have benefited us under his watch. | |
| And that's what we're asking Jason tonight. | |
| My opinion is, yes, it has. | |
| And I think that's the opinion of a lot of our audience, not all of them. | |
| And I love you too. | |
| But here we are. | |
| And so with that having been said, Jason, let's go back to the current issue, which is that which is taking place in Minneapolis. | |
| That brings us back full circle to our first guest tonight, retired police officer Jim Lancia, very down on Trump, but no less our brother for it. | |
| What is your take? | |
| How do you reconcile what Trump's doing here? | |
| I know you've been talking about the Insurrection Act, a lot of cry wolfism on that. | |
| What do you think is going on right there? | |
| Well, I feel very different about the action than your first guest. | |
| I'm totally supportive of it. | |
| I think that it's clear that that vehicle hit the heroic ICE agent, and he was more than justified in what he did. | |
| And I don't shed a single gear for that radicalized lesbian. | |
| I get PTSD watching what these crazy leftists are doing with their street theater, their fake BS street theater. | |
| It happened all throughout the civil rights movement. | |
| It happened in Charlottesville, where they put these people that are supposed to look like sympathetic victims. | |
| And they are not victims. | |
| They are aggressors. | |
| And they're putting themselves in the way. | |
| And the media is waiting. | |
| And when they do something illegal, when they stop ICE from arresting a Somali pedophile and have to be dragged away from their car because they're resisting arrest, they start screaming and people say, oh my God, she was just going to drop her kids off at the daycare. | |
| She was just going to volunteer at the soup kitchen or whatever phony BS it is. | |
| Just like they did in civil rights. | |
| They're hardened activists. | |
| And it is so difficult to operate in that environment with the amount of violence that is rising there from these radical leftists stealing guns out of lockers in federal law enforcement vehicles, the way that they are smearing the guys who are trying to remove these fraudsters and pedophiles. | |
| And it is, look, they're doing a lot to remove these illegals in places like Texas. | |
| That's the most successful operations, but they've got to remove them from these sanctuary places because that is taking away our voting power because the census is counting all of these illegals that they're harboring. | |
| We cannot allow a situation where we're only removing the illegals from red states and leaving them in sanctuary states. | |
| Well, that's what he's doing. | |
| He's taking the fight to them, and he's to be congratulated for that. | |
| The techniques of the left haven't changed from the civil rights room. | |
| They did the same thing. | |
| The cameras didn't roll when the blacks were throwing feces and cups of urine on the policemen, but they did start to roll when the fire hoses and the police dogs got to go from the police. | |
| Real quick, Keith, a question to you on this, because Jason was, of course, featured in that 14-person panel print interview for American Free Press at the end of 2025 last year for this consensus on Trump, this rating of Trump's first year. | |
| I mean, you are a man who is very well attuned to the Jewish question, also very well attuned to white interest, and you observe this presidential administration as well as anybody else does. | |
| What's your grade on Trump right now as we sit, even with Venezuela now having been cooked into baked into the cake? | |
| Eight. | |
| Eight out of ten. | |
| See, I mean, all right, qualify that now. | |
| Okay, the other thing is that I think that somehow he's got to turn the corner and really embrace white nationalism. | |
| That's the only, you know, that's the inevitable end to the way that we think. | |
| You know, if you are a conservative and a true conservative, you will eventually come around to our point of view. | |
| Trump is getting there. | |
| He's made a lot of progress since he first stepped down the elevator. | |
| And we know a lot of our guests and a lot of our friends and a lot of our listeners don't agree, but that's where we stand. | |
| And we can still take the, you know, I will fully admit to any negatives that people could have about Trump. | |
| But it's all about the advancement of white interests. | |
| Have white interests been advanced in the last 10 years? | |
| I say yes. | |
| Does the trend, do the trends look good for us forecast going forward? | |
| I say yes. | |
| That's my opinion. | |
| Jason, with a minute remaining, final word to you on all of this. | |
| Yeah, I would just encourage people not to give up, not to be a nihilist, not to be a too cool hipster. | |
| We're in the crucible right now, and we need to be supporting these immigration efforts, even if you think that it's totally fake and it's not doing anything, which I 100% disagree with. | |
| This is where the mainstream battle is right now, and people's perceptions of whether white solidarity and white consciousness is potent and powerful and on the march is related to what is happening right now. | |
| And if we oppose it because we think we're too cool or whatever, because of what our echo chamber is saying, I think we're really missing out. | |
| This is our moment to support what both sides agree has to do with white identity. | |
| Don't let the excellent be the enemy of the good. | |
| Nine hours into 2026, nine incredible guests, plus two, if you count our friends. | |
| I don't even count them as guests. | |
| They're more like family and contributors, Rich and Janice Hamblin. | |
| That would make it up to 11, and that is just in the first nine hours of this year. | |
| Where we go from here, well, we'll find out. | |
| I mean, who knows what Minnesota is going to look like a week from now. | |
| But I guarantee you, no matter what happens, we'll have some great commentators on to provide insight and opinion and analysis commentary. | |
| Jason, thank you for being on with us to wrap up tonight's show. | |
| We'll be back with you one week from now and where the world will be. | |
| Then we will find out together. | |
| For Keith Alexander, I'm James Edwards. | |
| Good night. | |