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Jan. 25, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, we're back.
It's Saturday, January the 24th.
If you're listening live at 7.05 p.m. Central, 8.05 p.m. Eastern, and events are unfolding in Minneapolis in real time.
All right, so we're a live once-a-week talk radio program.
Something could happen an hour from now that totally changes everything, and we won't be, you know, there to catch it.
Or two hours from now, I guess, or tomorrow, or whatever.
But right now, we're giving you the best information that we have in real time.
And what we've got is another week, another fatal ice shooting in Minneapolis.
And we had a totally different second hour planned tonight for you.
But because of this breaking news and this, not only a developing situation, but an evolving and certainly much more enhanced situation than where we were last week when we spoke with retired police officer Jim Lancia about the shooting of Renee Good, which took place a couple of weeks ago in Minneapolis.
And it was a little bit surprising to me that that was beginning to taper down, at least until this morning, when you had, as I mentioned, another fatal ice shooting in Minneapolis.
And so, you know, I don't want to draw from any well too often, but I just couldn't think of anyone better to have on again tonight, even though it's two weeks in a row, than Jim Lancia.
So he was with us last week during the first hour to break down the Renee Good shooting from his personal and professional opinion as a retired police officer.
And now, again, Jim, here we are.
And I was talking to you in the break between hours, my friend, about this whole thing.
And you said you've seen all of the video footage.
You've read up on this.
You're as up-to-date as anyone can be.
What happened this morning in Minneapolis?
All right.
Well, I saw all the video that's available.
That's all I could possibly, you know, make myself apprised of it.
All right, so what we have is you have a, we're going to go just on what we saw.
We see a woman in the street with a phone.
An ICE agent gets out of a vehicle, approaches the woman, he pushes her on the ground.
A white male comes up with a phone and gets in between them and looks like he's trying to lift the woman up or whatever.
The ICE agent immediately tussles with the white male, sprays him several times, both of them with pepper spray, and then the tussle ensues.
And then seven or so more ICE agents come and they're wrestling in the middle of the street for whatever reason.
One ICE agent pulls a gun from the waist of the white male and takes it away from the scene.
And then ICE agents start firing at the guy shooting him.
And they fired shots after he was on the ground.
Okay?
That's not good police work.
Let's write off from the start.
The guy wasn't a criminal.
Again, I'm just telling you from what I've seen.
So the guy was supposedly a licensed nurse, a legal gun owner, an American citizen.
And he was a white male, and it looks like all he was doing was filming them.
Now, whatever politics gets involved, that's still not what should happen in this country.
They could have, if they wanted to, they could have subdued him and subdue him, arrest him for interfering.
Go ahead.
But shooting, that was out of the question.
Sorry.
Anybody can make that judgment by what you see on the video.
But these seven, eight wouldn't even take down one resisting guy.
Now, you're coming from a guy that's taken down big drug dealers bigger than me, taking them down by myself, subduing them, cuffing them, disarming them.
So it's very sloppy.
What do you need?
Eight guys to take one guy down?
I mean, I don't know.
It's looking bad.
And I don't know what they're still doing there.
I don't know why ICE is doing crowd control now.
They should do what they got to do.
If they're really going after illegals, go after them and get the hell out of there.
God damn it.
All right.
So again, that was one of the first takeaways that I had.
And one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you.
Because, again, everybody knows your history.
If you listened last week, if you listened to all the appearances Jim has made on this program going back a decade plus, he wrote the book, Downtown White Police.
He has done these things.
He has administered justice.
He has kept the peace with the Billy Club and a six shooter.
He's done these high-risk arrests, hardcore felons, drug dealers, you name it, height of the crack epidemic.
And I'm watching here today.
And listen, I got to say, Jim, and we may disagree about this.
I mean, to hell with these anti-ICE and antifa activists, too, that purposefully put themselves in the position to impede law enforcement and all of that.
We'll get to that in a moment.
But having that been the case, and this guy decided to go out there and try his luck, it took, I mean, I saw, what, half a dozen, maybe eight of these ICE agents wrestling with him for 30 seconds, a minute, you know, before he was shot.
I mean, how does it take that many officers that long to subdue a subject?
I immediately thought of you knowing your career.
And, you know, would it have taken you that long by yourself to do what needed to be done to keep this thing peaceable?
Well, of course not.
I mean, obviously, but not all cops were built like, not all cops were like me.
But yes, most cops who know how to do the job got to be able to take a suspect, a subject down on their own.
You can't always have backup.
But let's get off that for a second.
Let's look at the ramifications here.
You think I'm a friend of Antifa or BLM or any of the others radical groups, but you don't see anybody going after that, right?
You don't see that.
And not only that, we're talking about something that's going to get out of hand.
This is going to get out of hand.
And you might say, oh, this guy was a liberal.
Fuck, you know, screw him.
And, you know, but that's not how we should look at this because they're going in houses without warrants.
This shit could get out of hand, man.
You know, no matter what, we're not getting our country back the way we would like it.
It's not going to happen.
They're not going to get all the illegals out and everybody's going to be nice again pre-1965.
This country's dying, okay?
And there's got to be something done in a better way than what we're doing right now.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, but there's an ulterior motive here, man.
This is why we're going to war with Iran.
Do you really think we need to go to war with Iran?
Iran's not the one who's taking away our free speech, our Second Amendment, and all this other stuff, right?
Who's doing that?
It's the government doing that.
And it's the freaking Trump government doing that.
And it was the Biden government before that.
And then it was Obama.
It's all the same crap.
So we're occupied, man.
You got to know that.
There's no, Trump ain't going to save us.
He's not, he's against us.
Let me tell you something.
He's playing a game.
He said just today, he said, oh, well, Iran's going to hang 800 protesters.
They're all Mossad agents.
And he goes, if they hang 800 protesters, we're going to bomb them.
So we're ready to start World War II, World War III in Iran for 800 Mossad agents that tried to overthrow the government there.
And then these guys are just shooting American citizens, whether you like these people or not.
It doesn't matter.
There's American citizens.
And I guarantee you, they wouldn't shoot black American citizens that easily.
Did you see the guy they shot?
He looked like everyday white guy with a beard, a baseball hat.
He was a nurse, American citizen.
Come on, a legal gun owner.
What more do you want?
All right, here's the Associated Press treatment on this, Jim.
A federal immigration officer shot and killed a man Saturday in Minneapolis, drawing hundreds of protesters.
I mean, that's thousands now, onto the frigid streets and ratcheting up attentions in a city already shaken by another fatal shooting weeks earlier.
That was literally two weeks earlier.
Family members identified the man who was killed as Alex Predi, a 37-year-old intensive care unit nurse who had protested President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown in his city after the shooting, an angry crowd gathered and protesters clashed with federal immigration officers who wielded batons and deployed flashbangs.
All right, so, I mean, you know, Jim, though, the thing is, I agree with everything you said.
I agree with everything you said.
But at the same time, I mean, you know, you had the governor of Minnesota, Tim Waltz, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, the effect Jewish mayor.
They're telling people to go out and I don't see them, by the way, doing the same thing.
I don't see the governor and the mayor going out and impeding ISIS function and getting in their faces.
But they've encouraged the citizens to do that.
Technically, they could be.
All right, go ahead.
Technically, they could be arrested for incitement.
I mean, Trump is bold enough to start World War III with Iran and take over Venezuela and steal Greenland.
I think he could arrest the mayor of Minneapolis.
All he's got to do is say he's inciting.
And he could blame this whole thing on Waltz and play.
He could do that.
I want to say this because, of course, we had a great interview last week.
You're back on this week.
I didn't expect you to be back on this soon, but I didn't expect there to be another.
Let's skip that break.
Let's skip that break, Liz.
Let's keep this going.
I didn't expect there to be another shooting in Minneapolis today either.
But you had talked about in that American Free Press interview, which will come out in the next issue, by the way.
It's not out yet.
So if people are wondering what we're talking about, it's still going to press right now.
But you had said, yes.
I mean, if the intention is to clean up the streets and to restore order, you're in favor of the Insurrection Act.
But what's the but, Jim?
But it's not for that.
Then they look the same.
You've got to realize at this point, you do know that Democrat and Republican are basically the same thing at the federal level, right?
Well, I realized that in 1999 when I joined up with the Bat Buchanan campaign.
Okay, so again, again, the Democrats let it get out of hand, illegally allowing millions of invaders in our country.
Now, all of a sudden, Trump wants to save the day by getting them all out.
He's not going to do it.
It's a farce.
It's a ruse to create chaos.
Let me tell you something.
When these files, why do you think they're blocking, again, they're blocking the Epsy files.
The Israeli government controls the U.S. government with black mail.
Everybody knows that.
That's why the Pam Bondi is blocking it.
And Kash Patel and all these other idiots.
And then you got Pan Bond.
He was in front of a Jewish organization that says he's going to go after anti-Semites.
Did you see that?
You didn't see that.
Well, I mean, yes, that's par for the course.
I mean, we've seen that even out of the Santa Cruz.
But what they're doing is they want to create some form of chaos so they can stay in office regardless of what gets leaked or what.
This might be the end of American elections.
It might happen.
I'm not saying it is, but we got three years to find out.
Remember, we're backing Zelensky in Ukraine, who's a dictator, a Jewish dictator in a Christian country, and who stays in power because perpetual war.
Netanyahu, another dictator, is avoiding prosecution in Israel with perpetual war.
You understand?
And this is the same play.
This is the same play here.
Trump has a lot of things that might come out with those FBI files.
That's it.
I know all your people are Trump supporters.
It doesn't matter.
At this point, forget that shit.
All right.
I wouldn't say that.
I would say predominantly, yes, that they would view him, and I too, Jim, more favorably than disfavorably.
But that is not to say that we don't agree with everything that you're saying and that some are diametrically opposed to Trump who are tuned in tonight.
It is a mixed bag.
But yes, most of you are not.
Brother, listen, you don't have to agree with me with everything.
That's why I don't mind doing this show.
Nobody has to agree with each other.
We're Americans.
We're putting our two cents in, and we'll see what happens.
But I don't care if you agree with me.
I like you guys.
I know you mean well, but we've got to look at the big picture.
We have to look at the big picture to see what this is all about, you know?
All right, so let's talk about this.
All of that, let's just take all of that for granted, what you just said.
And I do.
Let's take that for granted, and then let's look at the situation on the ground in Minneapolis.
These antifa people have to be crushed, right?
I mean, that is in the best interest.
That is in white interest for these people to be crushed.
Yes or no?
Yes.
If they wanted to crush them, the FBI could crush them very easily.
They already named them a terrorist group, right?
So if they're named a terrorist group, they should be arrested.
They know where to find them.
There's all kinds of RICO things going on with them, and they could just arrest them for what they've already been involved with.
There's prominent Antifa members on social media today, you know, basically strapping up and saying, come on out here and let's do this.
You know, basically, I mean, it's a okay, so that would basically be inciting, right?
Inciting.
So they could go after guys like that.
You know, I heard that even the Black Panthers were strapping up and facing down ICE guys and making them run off.
I mean, you know, see, that's all you got to do.
Breaking News: Antifa Arrests 00:11:56
They're going after easy targets.
Let's get real.
The white guys, the white girls, huh?
No, no, I was just going to say, let's get real here.
As real as we can get.
If we agree, and we do, that this insurrection, and it is an insurrection, should be crushed, that you can't have these violent Antifa people out there on the street threatening law enforcement officers, whether they be local or federal.
Why is Trump not crushing them?
Because I really can't answer that, but if he really, this is why I keep telling you, if he really wanted to straighten America out again, he has the legal right to go after those groups.
He can do that.
But he's not.
And why is that?
That's the question.
I can't get into his mind, but I do know that he wants chaos because with chaos, he's already talking about the Insurrection Act with the Insurrection Act.
As long as America's in perpetual insurrection, he could stay in office.
Do you understand?
So he might, his goal might be to stay in office, not to make America great again, but to maybe stay out of trouble.
Do you understand?
This is what I'm trying to tell you.
That's the big picture.
Maybe I shouldn't even go into the big picture because you might want to, but I am agreeing with you about BLM and Antifa and all these radical groups.
Yeah, crush them.
Crush their asses.
I'm for it.
But they're not doing it.
All you see is the video.
100%.
100%.
Huh?
Yeah, the 2000s.
100%.
Yeah, I mean, he should have crushed them when they were burning Washington in 2020.
He should have crushed them then.
He could have crushed them then.
But you're not crushing them now.
Yeah, go ahead.
No, but he's really not crushing them now.
He's not going after Antifa.
They're not going after BLM.
They know where they are.
They can get them.
They can go after them for crimes that they probably already committed.
But they're not doing that.
Do you see them?
If they're doing it, let me know.
No, no, no.
I haven't seen it.
I mean, I've seen some Occupy.
I like what the theory of ICE.
I like what they're saying they're trying to do, but I'm not seeing it to the extent that we need.
Well, there's so much coming in for you right now, Jim.
Let's try to start sifting through this.
I mean, because we all, does anyone really need us to break through what happened this morning?
Do you need us to spell it out?
I mean, there was a shooting of an anti-ICE, probably Antifa.
Who knows what he was?
But he wasn't a white nationalist.
Yeah, well, he wasn't any good either.
No, but wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
No, come on.
The guy's a licensed nurse.
I mean, if you were injured in a car accident and he worked on you, would you tell him not to work on you?
I get all that.
I get all that.
But I mean, you know, he probably is.
But really, look, who's going to decide whether he's a liberal?
What if, okay, all right.
I don't know what to say.
I mean, really, we could do this all day.
Like, he was a liberal, so it's okay for him to be.
He wasn't really doing anything wrong.
He got in between the ICE guy pushing the lady on the ground.
I don't know.
I just don't see that as a.
Okay, all right.
Well, we all saw the video.
Yeah, he was there with the, you know, he was recording and he was armed.
You could record legally.
You could.
As a cop, can I tell you something?
As a cop, I had to endure a lot of shit, too.
There's things that people can do that sometimes you can't even arrest them for.
But that's the law.
We have to go by the law.
You see what I mean?
It's not about whether I don't like somebody or not.
We go within the parameters of the law.
And if we lose that, then any president can create a thug army to do whatever they want.
I'm not saying these guys are all like that, but they certainly seem to be escalating it.
And then there's videos of them using tear gas and crazy shit in the street.
That's not their job.
Go after the guys and then leave.
You're not supposed to stay in the street and let them protesters go out in the snow and protest by themselves.
Who cares, right?
If ICE isn't there, just leave.
Go after them and go.
Take your prisoner.
We got a comment for you from a local listener, and he writes, his passion is priceless.
I want to buy Jim a beer.
And then he writes, you have to ask yourself why Trump is letting this go on.
We already know he doesn't care about offending anyone, so that's not it.
He wants me to ask you, Jim, what you think about all the veteran law officers and military men posting on X that they are ready to be activated by Trump to come in and do the job right?
Well, I haven't, I don't know what's going on with X.
I don't even go on it, but I think a lot of good people are going to be put in a situation where they don't know exactly what they're going to be doing.
They might want to bring this country back, but what does that mean?
There might be a point where something's going to happen where everybody's going to be against everybody.
And that might be what he wants.
But who are you going to go after?
I would ask those veterans and say, well, where are you going to start with that?
You see what I'm saying?
Where are you going to start?
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
Attack cities?
I don't know.
I don't know if we're there yet, but it's a bad situation when you even have guys saying that, really.
I mean, the government's the one who's doing this.
The government's the one who takes away your rights.
You know, nobody else is doing it.
Iran's not doing it.
Venezuela's not doing it.
It's Pam Bondi going after anti-Semitic remarks, Cash Papel defending, protecting billionaire pedophiles.
I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
So where are you going to start?
You know, where are you going to start?
Well, it's like I said, it's like we said last week.
If it's in favor of white interests, I'm all for whatever.
If it's for the other interest of blacks and Jews and everybody else but whites, I'm in favor of civil rights and constitution and law and order.
Your government is protecting Jews like they're like we're Palestinians.
I know that.
I know that.
We're like in Israel right now where the Jews are just pushing Palestinians around or spitting on American Christians in our own country.
I get it.
No, I get it.
Jim, I know all that.
I mean, we understand the Jewish question as well as anybody here on this program.
I know that's what's at the head of what's going on.
They control it all right now.
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
All right.
Let me read this.
We're about to go to, well, we actually got a couple of minutes left.
There's so much coming in for you right now.
I want to try to work through some of it.
But this is J.F. Gary Eppi, who's a friend of ours.
And he wrote this.
This isn't to you, but it was publicly posted.
And then we'll get to some of the other items for you.
But he writes, another protester killed by ICE agents in Minneapolis.
Again, it's very hard to see accurately what's happening as there are so many agents hiding the point of view of the cameras.
Did he reach for a gun or one of the agents' guns?
Possibly that being said, no doubt we're looking at another insurrectionist with a behavioral aggressivity issue who simply wanted to stop the law from being applied.
Nothing of value was lost.
These people who want to put their lives on the line so hard shouldn't be surprised if they end up dead.
I can see that point of view too.
No, no, I understand, but let me get that clear again from the video.
It's very clear he did not pull his gun.
The gun was pulled from his waist by an ICE agent.
He secured the gun, and then the shots were fired by the ICE agent.
So he was unarmed at the time he was even shot.
He was already disarmed.
You got to look at the videos.
I did see that and slowed down frame-by-frame, torturously slow roll.
And that did appear to be the exact case.
He was disarmed seconds before he was shot.
Now, in real time, you know, if you speed that up into real time, it's pretty close.
But he was disarmed.
Well, I'm all for it.
Listen, you know, I defend law enforcement, even if they make honest mistakes, because those things can happen in real time.
But there's seven guys.
The guy didn't have the gun in his hand.
He wasn't pulling it.
And he was shot.
He was also shot on the ground after he was gone.
Come on.
Listen, if I used my service weapon every time I had a legal right to use it, it would be in the thousands.
You understand?
It would be in the thousands.
And then to use the excuse of fear, if you're going to be afraid of every little dangerous situation, do not become a police officer.
That's why I'm against women police officers because the chances of you getting shot by a woman police officer in an escalated situation are greater because they're afraid.
You understand?
So you need cops that are not afraid.
Okay?
Because you can't be afraid of anything and just start shooting at you.
You can't be afraid.
We got 30 minutes left with you.
We're going to continue this conversation.
The music's playing.
Comment right now.
This guy thinks very clearly about all angles.
Incredible guests.
These ICE agents seem to be inexperienced and untrained.
Yes or no?
Do you agree?
Very much untrained and experienced.
And I think they're picking the bottom of the barrel for these people.
We'll be right back.
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There has been a shooting by an ICE agent in Minneapolis.
More on that.
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You know, Jim Lancey and I continue the conversation that you hear on the air into the commercial breaks when we're in queue.
You don't hear that part, and it's hard to beat sometimes the conversation that we have off the air, but we're going to try.
But first, our friend Christine Lynn, who is a regular guest on this program, and we'll talk to Christine again very soon.
She writes, James, so glad you have Jim Lancia on again tonight.
Great guest.
Important for everyone to hear his perspective.
And I agree.
And by the way, and Jim, you know, you and I were talking about this in the break.
And as we both know, you and I agree on far more than we disagree.
But the question was, I think, the, you know, just the essence of all of this.
I mean, I want to see these people, the people that are opposing ICE.
I mean, you know this.
The people that are opposing ICE are anti-foot, they're anti-white.
They're anti-anything that you and I would be for.
I want to see these people crushed, but as you wrote in the American Free Press feature that's going to come out soon, you know, they've got to go after big-time arrests and that they could arrest the governor of Minnesota.
They could arrest the mayor of Minneapolis.
Why aren't they?
And what's going on?
I mean, I don't know exactly how we frame that during the break, but you can pick it up where we left off.
Well, I guess what we could say is that, you know, we do agree in certain things, but I don't think it starts at shooting, you know, a couple of people and thinking that's going to make it better.
You're just feeding the fire.
You're giving them martyrs.
So if you have a governor, if you have a mayor, and we said this before, but if they're inciting, if they're actually aiding and abetting illegal activity, interfering with federal law enforcement, you know, and some of it, I guess, is good.
You're going after some of the bad guys and this and that.
But if you're interfering, they absolutely can be arrested.
A governor, a mayor do not have immunity.
You understand?
They can be arrested if they're doing this.
If they're inciting all this violence and stuff, they could be arrested and they could be brought in.
And you would see.
Do you believe that they are?
Do you believe that they are with their statements?
Do you believe that the governor and the mayor are?
I do.
100%.
Well, I haven't really, I can't listen to politicians too much because I can't stand any of them.
But I did see some of the things where they are kind of inciting the people and interfering.
Yes, they can be arrested for basically what I've seen that indictments can be brought up on them.
And whether they stick or not, it doesn't matter.
But if you at least put them through the legal system with things that they're doing that are creating these problems, I think you'd see a lot of things.
Jim, I got to say, yes, Trump has to do that.
If you don't do it now, you didn't do it five years ago.
I mean, it was bad enough.
You got to do it now.
And if he doesn't, I mean, that's very much telling as to how serious he is about this situation.
You have got to, you know, disperse the streets.
You can't have anti-far or insurrectionists outnumbering your law enforcement personnel 100 to 1 and let that slide.
And then the governor and the mayor is basically fomenting this and encouraging citizens, as this one did today.
And he may have been Jewish, but we'll find out.
Doing that and get away with it.
I mean, arrest them and see what happens.
But you've got to let push come to shove.
I mean, they're pushing you.
You've got to shove now, right?
Well, yeah, but here's another thing.
How many deep state people has Trump's DOJ and FBI arrested so far?
I got you.
All right.
Keep going.
Go.
How many?
How many?
You tell me?
Zero?
Zero.
Zero, right?
Will you mean to tell me with the DOJ and the FBI, as loyal as they are to him, they couldn't come up with some of the past, you know, some of these people that were doing things in the past under Biden?
You don't think they could have gone after some of these guys legally?
They could.
Yeah, I got you.
And we would disagree.
They're not going to go after the big guys.
They're just not.
It doesn't seem like they're going to do it.
Well, I mean, they certainly didn't do it last time.
And if passed is prologue, they're not going to do it now.
Now, we will agree to disagree on the fact that white interests have been advanced in the Trumpian era.
Credit for that can be.
Well, I mean, I'll tell you one way very quickly, and that is just in the last hour, my guest, Peter Brimlow, who was just on Turker Carlson.
I mean, Peter and I go back 20, you know, I go back 20 years in this.
Peter goes back far longer than that.
You certainly couldn't have had a conversation about white interest and Jewish power and influence that reached 10 million people, you know, 10 years ago or 20 years ago.
I mean, that's one way.
I mean, certainly within the ages of the United States.
I would disagree.
I would disagree.
How?
I'll tell you why.
Have you seen Pam Bondi's latest preference with a Jewish organization?
Okay, I mean, I get all that.
The government.
No, no, no.
She said they're going after anti-Semitism speech.
It's almost worse than it, everyone.
It's bad.
All right.
Well, I mean, we're digressing.
Okay, I don't know.
I'm trying to be on you.
I'm trying to listen.
Ask the people who are putting in comments, have they seen that?
So I don't see what you're seeing.
Maybe I'm stupid.
I don't know.
I guess I'm stupid, a dumb WAP.
There you go.
Why do you have a WAP on your radio show?
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why, Jim, because I love y'all.
I mean, that's where doo-wop music came from, Philadelphia, New Jersey, New York.
You know, I love that stuff from the 50s.
Now, listen, we agree on everything, except, you know, I just think that in the last 10 years, you certainly have a bigger window to talk about not only pro-white interests, but also Jewish power and influence.
I mean, it has exploded in the last 10 years.
Can credit be given to Trump?
No, but inadvertently, yes.
I mean, it has happened in the last 10 years since he has come on the scene.
But that is not what we're here to talk to you about tonight.
But as far as, you know.
I get it.
Yeah.
And we've had the pros and the cons in Trump for, what year is this now?
20.
26, and he goes back to 2015.
For the last 11 years, we've been weighing the pros and cons in Trump and how much credit is due to him or in spite of him or tangentially related to him.
We still do it.
I mean, last week we did it.
I mean, we still do it.
I do think that white interests are better served now than they were 10 years ago and 20 years ago.
When I first got on the air, Jim, you couldn't have any conversation like this unless it was on this radio program because Twitter didn't exist yet.
YouTube didn't exist yet.
Facebook could just come online.
So things have gotten better, whether it's because or in spite of Trump, that's debatable.
But nevertheless, in Minneapolis tonight, it's a Tinderbox.
It's only become more combative and divisive.
And I asked you this last week where you see this going.
Where do you see it going now?
Well, it's very difficult to completely be accurate on this, but this is not organic on either side.
This has all been, this has all been planned to allow chaos.
The government has more control of U.S. citizens or any country when there's chaos, you agree, right?
Because they could shut things down.
They could do martial law.
They could do insurrections.
That's where they're leading to.
Like I said, Democrats let it get out of control.
Then Republicans come in.
They think they got to clamp it down.
That's not like, oh, poor dumb politicians.
This has been planned.
It's all part of the, if you look up what I put in my book, the Strong Cities Network, and they were going to use that with the UN, which I don't think they would do now, or it's still on the books.
But chaos is what they want.
That's how they stay in office.
That's how they stay in power.
That's how they protect their big guys.
But that's getting in too deep right now.
I think as far as this thing in Minneapolis, we agree we want America to be better again, right?
We all want America to be better.
We don't want thugs like Antifa and BLM to run things.
But remember, that freaking BRM shit was going on during Trump.
You remember that?
That's right.
Why didn't he send, why didn't he send everybody to go club them out and kick them the fuck out of there, right?
Come on, man.
Sorry for that.
But he didn't do any of that.
He didn't do any of that.
And Jim, again, I got to say, you faced things like that.
How would you have handled it?
Well, man, let me tell you something.
You know, we had a police department that was in a violent city in many violent housing projects.
And we got the bricks thrown us, the rocks, bullets, knives.
We went through all of that.
And we dealt with it.
We didn't make the major drama out of it, but we handled it as it came.
And, you know, in the old days, it's not that long ago, but we carried billy clubs and we were able to use them.
People get out of line and start knocking a few heads.
I mean, look at the old days.
Look at the 60s, 70s, 80s.
You see cops using nightsticks.
How come you never see a cop use a nightstick anymore?
They use their guns before they use a nightstick.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, so what would you rather see?
A cop use a nightstick, a billy club, or a freaking gun?
If he doesn't have to.
You know what I mean?
Let's continue this.
Jim, I got to say this.
Thank you.
We got one more segment with you.
I'm not letting you go yet.
I want you for the full hour.
But thank you for coming back on with us again two weeks in a row, all Minneapolis-centric.
But this guy's been there.
He's done that, and he gets it.
And he gets it in ways that Trump doesn't in some ways.
It is common for politicians, major media outlets, and nonprofits to hype white on black murders aggressively, or even claim that blacks are living in fear of white people.
Lynch for simply being black.
Hard to believe, but that's what was done.
And some people still want to do that.
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I am adding nitro to glycerin this segment by Rich Hamblin, our good friend Rich Hamlin, who kicked off our year, Jim, in South Africa, the very first Saturday of 2026, Rich was in South Africa with our friend Simon Roche.
So we actually kicked off this year with Rich in South Africa.
But he's tuned in tonight, and he's listening to you, and he loves what you're saying.
And he had something that he brought to my attention earlier this evening.
And I just said, Rich, why don't you just call in and read that to Jim?
And y'all just engage in this conversation.
We're going to go to Virginia in the next hour.
We're going to talk about how the Democrats are giving a masterclass to the Republicans about how to use state power, all to our detriment, of course.
But before we do that, Rich and Jim, I'm going to turn this segment over to you.
I'm going to butt out.
Rich, say hello to Jim.
Read what you have to read and then get after it.
Yes, sir.
It's an honor to be on the program with you.
Oh, thank you, man.
It's good to talk to you.
Let's get this going.
Yeah, one I sent to James' attention.
I was scrolling through X, and it came across this post by a fellow named Justin O'Donnell.
He's at O'Donnell 4NH.
And I'll just read what he says.
He includes some video clips.
He starts off by saying, this is the video that actually matters.
Yes, the victim was legally concealed carrying.
However, he never drew the weapon and never posed a threat.
However, an ICE agent who noticed a holstered weapon deliberately entered the tussle to disarm.
Parenthetically, it says actually a good move, and I will not condemn this agent for this action.
But when that ICE agent withdraws with the gun secured, another agent opened fires on the disarmed subject.
The rest of the group joined him in firing on a disabled and disarmed subject.
My comment, if you look at the video, it appears that the first agent shot this man in the back.
Okay, back to O'Donnell.
The narrative of a threat cannot be true because by the time the agent made the choice to use lethal force and carry out the execution, there was no president firearm.
He could not possibly have been threatened by what was not there.
Also included is a longer video with another angle shot by the woman in pink, the so-called woman in pink, that shows the build-up to the continuation where the man is shown attempting to help a woman who was violently put to the ground by the ICE agent before being maced and tackled to the ground, all while raising his hands and attempting to communicate that he was not a threat.
That's the end of the post.
And then it's got some photos and videos attached to it.
This is, I agree pretty much with 100% of what you're saying.
I don't know who these guys are that ICE is hiring up there as agents, but they're clearly not trained or they're trained in the wrong manner.
And they're not set up there to calm the situation.
My opinion is that they're set up there to escalate the situation.
ICE knows how to pick up people.
I mean, heck, Obama deported over 800,000 during his presidency.
So they know how to pick up people.
I mean, and Trump so far has gotten 250,000, I think, is one thing I was reading.
But the government is, as usual, is closing ranks.
They're trying to gaslight us because you could listen to the news that was playing at the half hour where the spokesman was saying, well, a man came at him carrying a firearm, you know, and threatening.
And if you look at the video, you don't see any of that.
You see this guy, this ICE agent comes in.
You know, the woman probably lipped off to him.
What does he do?
He throws her down on the ground like, you know, he was a kicked or a herder.
And so he stops, he steps in between them.
And that's when they pull a scrum on him.
And it's just, you know, it's like we were talking about.
I think, you know, it's the training that these new cops are getting out on who these guys are.
I think you're right.
They're probably scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Well, they are.
And here's the thing.
They're not even cops.
But I will say this.
Everything you said was everything I said regarding this shooting.
The only good job I could say by any of those ICE agents was the one that pulled the gun away so he could, you know, prevent any usage of it and to disarm him.
That's okay.
He did right by that.
But he was disarmed.
And again, they shot him as if he was a threat.
He was never a threat.
And the first shot appeared to me to be in the back.
Gentlemen, Jimmy, I would ask both of the Jim you first, though.
What idiot brings a firearm to a riot, though?
It goes down to a situation.
Well, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
A legal gun carrier.
You cannot say that, James.
He was legally authorized to carry, just like every other citizen that's got a concealed carry permit.
So you can't really say, you know, he didn't use it.
I mean, he didn't pull it out.
He would have been stupid if he did it.
But the point here, James, is legality.
He had the legal right to carry that weapon.
He had a concealed carry permit.
So that's out of the question whether he was able to bring it or not.
And the only thing the ICE did right was that one agent pulled it out of his belt.
The situation should have been just, okay, cuff them and then deal with it.
Let the courts deal with it.
But a lot of these ICE agents are, there's very little vetting.
They're being offered a lot of money.
And a lot of them are not even white guys, you know.
There are a lot of Hispanics doing it.
And they could get anybody to do this.
Heck, they could hire illegals to do it after a while.
And a lot of them are getting training that is against the Fourth Amendment.
And they're telling them there was a leaked memo that said, just go into the houses.
Don't worry about it.
We'll take care of it.
And then a lot of them are getting some training from Israel.
Again, I told you with the, did I mention on air that the U.S. law enforcement chiefs go to Israel from time to time to get training?
It's an acronym called Khaliyah, where they're training U.S. police chiefs how to train their men to be like Israeli police, an IDF.
Do you want to be treated like the way they treat Palestinians?
I wouldn't want that.
So this is what they're doing.
And you've got to remember with this huge Zionist control in our country, it's either you play their game or you're going to be treated like a bad guy.
So that's all I got to say.
Yeah, you were right.
You know, a lot of people are saying, this isn't about if we like the guy or if we like the woman that was it's About that, it's why did they do it?
It's not proper, and that's it.
Like I said, it bothers me because I faced so many situations where I could have used my weapon.
You know, I've been in a few where I had to, but there was many, most of them you could, but you don't.
So it bothers me, all that stress I had to hold in.
And these guys are just banging away at everybody, and they're not even threats.
If these guys were criminals and they're arresting felons and they're resisting and there's gunplay, yeah, go ahead, shoot away.
Wild West, bro.
But that's not the case here.
They're easy freaking targets, man.
And I faced all the most dangerous markets and all these cops that have to do this, it's stressful because we've got to hold our fire.
You can't go shooting your freaking gun every time, man, just because governments resist.
That's why they, you know?
Hey, folks, I mean, you don't need to remind you one more time, but downtown white police demonizing the alpha cop, glorifying thugs and militarizing law enforcement at Amazon.com, Jim Lancia, James Lancia, if you will, on Amazon.
But Rich, a final can I mention one more thing, James?
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead, please.
One more thing.
Please, yeah.
One more thing.
Even in my book, I put down that police officers should never wear masks.
Criminals wear masks.
When you're doing something that's righteous, you do not cover your face.
And I put that in my book 10 years ago.
And now they're going around.
You don't know who's behind those masks.
I don't like it.
If you're doing something righteous, you show your face, period.
Absolutely.
Rich, do you?
It's been an alarming channel.
See, I think that started back in the 60s with the introduction of SWAT tactics.
And SWAT teams were developed originally in capacity programs in Vietnam.
You know, so they brought that to L.A. Remember that program was with Frederick Forrest or Steve Forrest called SWAT, and it was glorifying the LA teams.
And that spread all over the country.
And since then, it's only gotten worse.
And you've got all this stuff of qualified immunity for cops.
They can pretty much kill anybody they want to, and the superiors will find a way to justify it.
That's not right.
I mean, at one time, no, no.
Okay, I will say this: qualified immunity is okay for certain situations, but not when you knowingly violate rights.
See, when you knowingly violate rights, you lose the qualified immunity.
But if you're in an action where you're, you know, you're being fired upon and you got to return or you're in a dangerous situation, you have that because otherwise you wouldn't be able to do the job.
But I worked on our tactical team, which is basically our SWAT team.
Now, we didn't never wore a mask.
And I remember when we went to, we had the regular street blues and they wanted us to wear black uniforms, BDUs, and because we did a lot of crawling around and breaking indoors, I resisted that in the beginning.
I didn't like it.
It just bothered me that we wore black.
And I even told him that.
And for like three months while I was on the team, I didn't wear it.
And the fucking captain just said, you got to wear the freaking uniform and tactical.
So I had to go to the black uniform.
I didn't like that, but we certainly didn't wear masks.
And we went after nothing but bad guys.
We cleaned up the streets, bad criminals, you know?
Demonizing the alpha cop, glorifying thugs and militarizing law enforcement.
Jim Lancia's book, Downtown White Police, available on Amazon.
I was about to say anti-thug.
It's on the brain.
What can I say?
Amazon.com.
Jim, I love you, brother.
So many years together, going back a decade plus.
Rich, thanks for joining in on the conversation tonight.
10 seconds remaining.
Rich, final word to you.
Hey, Jim, I look forward to meeting you and buying you a Drake.
Thank you, brother.
I look forward to it.
I'll pick you up on that offer.
It can't happen soon enough.
I better get to planning another event right now.
They've inspired me tonight.
Two great guys, Jim and Rich.
We'll be back in the third hour.
We're going to go to Virginia and see what's going on there.
Thank you, Jim.
Thank you, Rich.
Thank you, Jim, for coming on two weeks in a row.
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