Sept. 14, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome back.
It is a parade of incredible guests tonight.
I just wish we could have had them on under better circumstances.
A man who I respect so much, a man who has given so much, accomplished so much, suffered so much for our people and our cause and for what is right.
I mean, that's the thing.
Peter Brimelow, the former editor of Forbes magazine, I actually ran into Steve Forbes a year or two ago and took a pen picture with him and sent it to Peter just for fun.
But also the former editor of the Wall Street Journal and most famously, V-Dare.
The original plan tonight was to have Peter on to grade the first nine months of Trump's second administration to talk at immigration, of course, with the author of Alien Nation and the push to get Pat Buchanan the Medal of Freedom, but that is not what we're going to be talking about tonight.
Peter, Charlie Kirk posted after the murder of Irina Zarutska, America will never be the same.
You posted it as well.
Do you think America will ever be the same after this week?
Well, you know, America shows an ability to absorb these killings, black and white killings and forget about them.
We all thought that we were all told that everything was nothing would be the same after 9-11, but in fact, everybody went straight back to doing what they wanted to do, including amnesty and importing vast numbers of Muslims, you know, Muslim immigration has been absolutely enormous since 9-11.
So I think, let's put it this way, I hope it won't be the same.
Well, that is an honest answer.
That is certainly an honest answer.
I think you are right in the past.
There were events that occurred that you would ask this question.
But the old saying is, when all is said and done, more will be said than done.
Maybe, maybe.
At some point, though, does it have to turn or do you just go into that long good night?
I guess we'll see.
This is a comment that I saw on X, I guess we would call it now.
If we want things to change, it's well, this was actually from Charlie Kirk.
My goodness, this was Charlie Kirk's quote.
If we want things to change, it is 100% necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Irina Zaruska because it was politics that allowed a savage monster with 14 priors to be free on the streets to kill her.
Another commenter mentioned that this is perhaps the greatest awakening moment in 100 years.
Peter, why did V-Dare, why did V-DARE spend so much time covering this particular issue of interracial crime?
Because he became quite famous for that as well.
Well, can I just comment on what Kirk said?
You know, that's a remarkable combination of the two themes we're going to talk about tonight.
Because, you know, of course, Kirk is completely right.
And there has to be awareness of this issue instead of the whole Black Lives Matter racial reckoning farce, which Was only able to push across American people because of the relentless propaganda from the mainstream media.
But it's also extremely interesting that Kirk said that because, you know, I watch his career course with enormous interest, particularly on the immigration area.
And when he started off, he was just a standard issue bushing and said all kinds of awful things.
And of course, he got into the GREPA war, and I think that educates to a considerable extent.
But it's more than that, because towards the end of his life, he had moved sharply to the right on immigration and was far less than President Trump.
He was actually prepared to talk about illegal immigration, which I don't think Trump has thought about since 2015 when he put out that statement.
Trump still says stupid things about legal immigration.
Although, you know, he's obviously doing a great job on lots of routes to all the right voices about illegal immigration.
So if you're interested in, if you want to call him what we call the Vijayana immigration patriot, this Kirk is a tremendous loss because he had actually emerged as a real spokesman.
And as I say, I've never seen it.
I can only think of one other example of something radicalized to the right out of the establishment, and that would be Michelle Malkin.
But Trump, but Kirk has come a very long way, and maybe that's what got him killed.
Well, I mean, you know, I know you were listening, and I'm honored to be able to share to the audience that fact.
But, you know, we were asking the congressman in the previous hour, you know, how culpable is the media in all of this, but people have come a long way and people are seeing things clearly.
And I'm seeing just right now, 59 minutes ago, 59 minutes ago, as we sit here live tonight, Stephen Miller, who has Trump's ear, if anyone does, just tweeted a picture with no comment, a picture of Irina Zarutska cowering above her murderer or beneath her murderer.
You know, Peter, I just, I just, it seems, you know, when you're reaching that level, that level, the White House level, is this real or is it Fool's gold?
Because you have been on both sides of that fence.
You were there with Forbes.
You were there at all the cocktail parties that conservatives wanted to go to.
You were in the midst of it all, and then you left for a higher calling and for a greater purpose.
So I think if anyone can see it, it's you.
How real is any of this in terms of engagement for our side?
It's immensely significant that Stephen Miller is saying this kind of thing.
I think Stephen Miller is a pretty tough guy, and for good and ill.
I think he's a very ruthless operator.
And I didn't like the way he shivved Jeff Sessions.
But he did survive at Cush in the White House.
And he seems to, which I certainly couldn't have done.
He seems in a stronger position than ever.
And the fact that he's hitting this issue so hard, I think, is a huge change.
It's profoundly significant.
I mean, Biden was in power a year ago.
Do we remember how awful that was?
Well, there's one thing I can say that he seems to be one of the most effective voices in the right for the Trump administration.
He and the Doge thing with Elon Musk, those are the things that are really making a difference.
Well, and Elon Musk has come back now, Peter, and he is just saying things that are absolutely incredible.
I mean, he does seem schizophrenic in a way on some things, and he goes off on tangents, and then he comes back.
But I mean, he's retweeting people we know, Philosopher Cat, you know, our friend Janelle.
And just, well, I'll just give you one example.
Okay, so this is one thing.
There was a commenter on X who wrote this comment: White people have a choice to make, be conquered, enslaved, raped, and genocided while being called a racist, or reclaim our nations and our dignity while be calling while being called racist.
It's that simple.
Elon Musk retweeted that with the comment, yes.
So, I don't know.
I mean, I've been around this thing for a long time.
I mean, what do you think any of this or all of this means?
Well, one thing I think it means is that I think Stephen Lowe's going to be president one day.
I think he's the American Disraeli.
Benjamin Disraeli was a Sephardic Jew, like converted when his father came out of Dernet.
Benjamin was about 10 years old then.
And he also became Prime Minister of England, Britain in the middle of the 19th century.
And what he did was he formulated complete veld politics for the Conservative Party.
He made it the party of empire, which had not previously been.
The Empire existed, but it wasn't sensitive to Britain's consciousness.
And of course, what he did was he invented a form of national conservatism.
And it had an interesting effect of causing the Conservatives to get great support of the British working class.
So it was a complete rethinking of the grand strategy of the Tory Party.
And Miller is rethinking the grand strategy of the Political Party.
He is very slowly and by degrees making it a white nationalist policy.
It's covered up by all kinds of obfuscation.
And it's a very strange thing for a Jew from Los Angeles to do.
But as I say, there is President in Benjamin Israeli.
I just have a feeling about it.
He seems to be unkillable.
And he survived the crush of the White House and everything.
And he's emerging as a racist spokesman.
Now, I have to say that, you know, we begged his American First Organization to help us when we came under attack from Letitia James, the New York State Attorney General, and they just wouldn't do it.
And he doesn't take risks.
He doesn't take risks.
He doesn't retrieve the wound.
He doesn't take risks for people.
He's not like Pat Buchanan in that respect.
But on the other hand, he's there and he's making this policy and he's really driving him.
So that's great.
Well, Peter, you must be very happy about what's happening to Letitia James now.
Do you want to comment at all about that?
That's not exactly what we wanted to get to tonight, but I mean, it is a topic.
Well, the shortcut is not enough.
Not enough.
Enough of that.
Well, I don't think they're further yet.
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We are back with Peter Brimelow, the one and only V-Dare, Alien Nation, the martyr.
If you go back far enough, Forbes and Wall Street Journal.
It's always good to talk to Peter.
And even on a night like this, it is good to talk to Peter.
Where do we want to take this now?
I mean, we're talking.
I'm so glad you're still alive and kicking after the thing that you took, my friend.
Well, I mean, all of it.
Well, hey, listen, I mean, he's back, and even in some ways, I mean, he's really rose like the Phoenix.
Let's plug your sub stack very quickly, Peter.
If people want to stay in touch with Peter Brimelow, there is a way to do it.
And I am there, and I'm a subscriber, and we've linked to it on our favorite places at our blog at thepolitical cesspool.org.
People interested in Peter, where can they go?
It's just PeterBrimlow.com.
It'll come right up.
And my sub-site is a sub-site, of course, and it's free.
I don't charge for it.
And I also take great pleasure in recycling VDARE articles.
The VDAR site, VDARE.com, has been restored by volunteers.
So it's now searchable and it's still there.
It's not being updated, but there are 25 years of data there.
And I must say, we've run some very good articles.
So, you know, I urge people to go and go look at them both.
You sure as hell did, brother.
I mean, that's putting up a good fight.
You really have.
Well, I mean, VDARE is one of a kind.
I mean, it was really a cornerstone in all of this back in 1999.
Are you kidding me?
Foundation?
Yeah, absolutely.
It was.
I mean, this is the legendary.
This is not Peter Brimlow.
This is the legendary Peter Brimlow, who we can very proudly call a friend and a colleague.
Peter, we love it.
Money, but not bad.
Okay, so let's talk about this.
So, I mean, if I can.
Go ahead.
One of the things I just, if I think it's a thing that's current tonight, which I hope to update tonight, but Charlie Kirk, bless him, actually defended VDAR on his show a couple of years ago.
We had a curious, you know, we have the, we bought the Berkeley Springs Castle to hold conferences because we're not allowed to hold conference anywhere.
And there was a Christmas party there, not actually our Christmas party, but a Christmas party for the local charity that decorates the town of the Castle at Christmas.
It was infiltrated by Michael Edison Hayden, you know, the SPLC thug.
And we found him talking to our ten-year-old.
And this really freaked the lydia out because we do have a couple of trammies and we have had a couple of trials in Belgium Springs.
Yeah, and he is a sick guy.
Anyway, so Charlie defended us.
So I went back to the archives and pulled it up and posted the whole thing in my chip on September 11th.
If you don't mind, I'll read something that you posted this week, my friend.
And you wrote, I'm not even sure if it was fair in the end to call Charlie Kirk a member of Conservatism Incorporated.
I've never seen anyone evolve as quickly.
He started off as a Bush-era immigration enthusiast and finished calling for an immigration moratorium.
His trenchant criticism of legal immigration levels put him way to the right of Donald Trump, who is still flip-flopping on the issue irritatingly.
Charlie Kirk's death, you write, is a massive blow to the immigration patriot cause.
Now, listen, comments on social media are a dime a dozen.
When an opinion comes from someone like Peter Brimelow, I listen.
Why do you believe absolutely?
Why do you believe that that is the case?
That Kirk's death is a blow to our shared cause.
Well, he had a great platform.
He built a great platform and he'd also gotten the message.
He was extremely forceful, and I think the things he was saying.
I think more forceful than many people actually realize because it's some that haven't just recently.
And the curious thing about this is, James, it wasn't being driven by donors.
This couldn't possibly have done him any good at all with the donor class, you know, the Republican donor class.
Now, I wouldn't, it's not a disastrous, not as awful as criticizing Israel, which he was also doing towards.
I just have to think it was it evolved.
He just thought it through.
There are some people who actually motivated the people.
Is that why they did the buy-in?
Well, I mean, you know, his death, I mean, I don't want to speculate on that or get out in the weeds and conspiratorial on that.
It could be just as simple as, you know, this guy who was apparently, according to Fox, with a transgender partner decided to kill him.
I mean, you know, that is plausible and is probably the most likely thing, but nevertheless.
I noticed that Ron Oms hasn't yet blamed Israel for assassinating Kirk.
Under the position, you know, Israel is the assassination state and is responsible for a vast number of assassinations around the world, which happens to be true.
I mean, you know, this has blown up the leaders of the Houthis, and they just assassinated, but keep people in Iran.
And, you know, there hasn't been a state that operates it like this.
It's the Assassins of Alamot, you know, the heretical Muslim sect that terrorized the Muslim world from its base in what is now Iran.
It's kind of an extraordinary situation.
But I'm inclined to agree.
There's no point in speculating about what, at this point, why he was killed.
But I am saying that he was taking enormous risks with his donor base.
My eldest daughter, with my first wife who died, actually worked for Kirk and went to several of his events.
And it was a very hard-pressure, hard-driving environment.
He was very focused on raising money.
But I don't see how this could have helped him raise money.
So it was really fascinating what he was doing.
It's interesting you bring that up, that what you just mentioned, because my pastor's granddaughter, who, you know, my pastor paid a terrible price for having me as a member of his church.
And without betraying me, the entire church was just fellowship from the denomination.
But I was talking to him last night, last night, in fact, I was talking to him about Charlie Kirk's death.
And I knew that his daughter's daughter, his granddaughter, had worked with Charlie Kirk and had founded a chapter for Turning Points USA.
And he had nothing but good things to say.
And he is a man who's, again, like yours and so many others that I look to to inform my own opinion.
But this is a comment from X.
This murder is going to accelerate the deterioration of civic life in America and drive us further down the path towards entrenchment into armed camps and paranoia, ultimately leading to civil war.
Why would anyone want to bother even trying to, I believe this was actually Warren Baylock who wrote this, even trying to dialogue with their fellow Americans if all you get is a bullet for it.
I mean, there's a lot of truth in that.
If they would kill Charlie Kirk, they would kill anybody I've ever had on this program.
Is secession the only answer, Peter?
Yeah, so what do you do with this?
Well, yeah, I think succession at the state level is absolutely critically important now.
I mean, if you look at Northern California, Northeastern California, beyond the Sierra, it's a complete colony.
Southern of the big cities on the coast, southern Illinois, actually anywhere south of Chicago, is governed by Chicago, which has nothing whatever in common with it.
So these big states need to be broken up.
And they need to be broken up because of that Supreme Court decision under Warren Bergen, the name I can wish I can never remember, which basically banned states from having balancing mechanisms in the way that the U.S. Senate is a balancing mechanism, where you balance out the several communities against the population centers.
If you're not going to have a Senate type situation, a true Senate type situation in these big states.
And, you know, Illinois is like 500 miles long.
It's a huge state.
If you're not going to have a balancing mechanism, then they're going to have to break up to represent the several communities.
It's the same thing with New York state.
Somebody said that there are not blue states and red states.
There are red states and red states with blue tumors called cities.
Yeah.
That's right.
And now, of course, it might be a good idea to have Memphis secede.
Well, now, you know, the rest of Tennessee outside of, well, I have to say, we'll talk about the unofficial capital of the Delta.
That's why we're the way we are.
Well, I will say this to that, Peter, is that, you know, I am proud to be, well, I am a second-generation Tennessean.
All my family before that, going back to the war between the states, were from Mississippi.
Really proud of my Mississippi ancestry.
But, you know, my grandparents on both sides, my mom's parents and my dad's parents, they got married.
They moved to Memphis because it was the nearest big city.
It's like Elders' parents.
Big city to find work.
But, you know, Tennessee is very red.
Memphis is very blue.
And I am all.
Guess what?
And Memphis is also very black.
We're getting some backup, though.
The president is sending the National Guard in.
That's a big shift from the 1960s.
We'll talk about that more next week.
But we're getting some backup here.
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Peter, with seconds remaining, final word to you on all of this.
It's been a hell of a week between the murder in Charlotte and, of course, the murder of Charlie Kirk.
You know, I can say, James and Keith is, you know, I'm so damned old now, but I actually remember 1975 and, you know, how utterly demoralized the conservative movement was in those days because of the fall of Vietnam.
And it was obvious that the Democrats were in totally controlled and shot through with communists, never rooted out.
It really hard then to come.
But, you know, five years later, Reagan was elected.
I think that was a tremendous event.
I'm not one of these people who disparages Reagan.
I think he just, if Reagan would not be elected, the Cold War was really going on and the Soviet Union was still.
And we will be financing it, which is what they were doing at the end of the kitchen here.
Well, you know, that's what Paul Kersey was saying before.
I mean, can you imagine?
And just again, seconds before the music begins, and then we'll get to, you know, your friend and mine, Jared Taylor.
But five years ago, Biden was about to be inaugurated.
I mean, we were at the very end of the first Trump term, the year of George Floyd.
We have come so, I mean, this is not even the same world as that.
And that was only five years ago, as you mentioned.
Five years could make a big one.
God bless you and your family, Peter.
You're really, you know, an inspiration to absolutely.
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Many conservatives are mourning the death of activist Charlie Kirk.
In remarks last night at Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, said she has seen a worldwide outpouring of love for her husband.
I've heard the testimonies from people my husband inspired to get married, to start families, to seek out a relationship with God.
It's the most important.
And leaders in the country are trying to find ways to provide solace to citizens while denouncing political violence in the country.
Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn tells the Salem Radio Network the shooting of Salem radio host Charlie Kirk was a great shock to many people.
Well, I don't think many people have witnessed the murder of a fellow American and somebody who was doing nothing but exercising his free speech rights to try to educate a generation of young Americans about some very important principles.
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They were just in it to be in power.
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Because if you were, I can say as a former prosecutor, here's exactly what you would do.
You would have a large police presence, very visible, so that people who are doing bad things are arrested, and that might deter other people from doing bad things.
And then when people are arrested, you would prosecute them severely under the law, to the full extent, maximum extent of the law.
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I draw the line in the dust and passed it gauntlet before the feet of tyranny.
And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever.
Ladies and gentlemen, that, as I am coming to find out, having been back on Twitter now for a week, it's a moderate proposal.
A moderate proposal from what we are seeing on social media.
And that, of course, was Governor Wallace.
And had that been the case, had that been 1963 on the schoolhouse door of the University of Alabama.
Had that been the chart that America had, had that been the course that America charted, certainly Irina Zarutska would still be alive and so many countless others.
Joining us now as we continue this all-star panel of conversation is Jared Taylor, the editor of American Renaissance.
Jared, it's great to have you on tonight.
How are you?
Oh, I'm doing splendidly.
And I always feel like it is the top of the morning, day or night, when I am your guest, James.
Well, it's so nice to hear you say that.
And you are joining us tonight for unfortunate reasons.
But again, as I have said before, with your lieutenant Paul Kersey, we couldn't have done this show without you.
So here we are now, Jared.
And I commented this to you on the phone a few days ago, a couple of days ago, I guess it was now, that, I mean, what has happened in the last two and a half years before I rejoined Twitter?
I mean, everybody is to the right of us now.
I mean, it just seems, it's just incredible.
And then Elon Musk just retweeted a couple of days ago this quote: White people, I read this to Peter Brimelow in the previous segment.
White people have a choice to make, be conquered, enslaved, raped, and genocided while being called a racist, or reclaim our nations and our dignity while being called racist.
Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, and the, of course, proprietor of Twitter.
Second richness now.
Is he second?
Well, anyway, he's further up the line than I am.
He is retweeting that.
And then now, even the John Birch Society, Jared, posted: if there's ever a time to call your congressman and tell him I want you to repeal the Civil Rights Act, it's right now.
What is going on in this country and in our people?
Do you feel like a prophet, Jared?
My head is spinning.
These are changes that are so remarkable, so rapid, that certainly two or three years ago, I would never have guessed.
I believe I've confessed to you that back in 1990, 35 years ago, when I got into this business of standing up for white people, I thought that we would be at this stage in maybe five, six, seven years, ten years the most.
And then we just went downhill, downhill, downhill.
And certainly the George Floyd era was the nadir.
I believe that was the absolute bottom of white awareness, white pride.
And now we seem to have shot back up to a point we have not been since the man you were quoting.
We need a new second edition of the color of crime.
We're going to talk about the color of crime in just a second.
But how do you reconcile that, Jared?
How do you reconcile that, that slow decline from the 1960s all the way through and up until 2020?
And then you have this pivot to where now, in only five years, you're at a point, a zenith.
Not the nadir, but the nadir, but the zenith.
How does that happen?
Well, you know, I think that a lot of people saw the horrible excesses of the whole George Floyd ELM movement and people rioting.
Not only it used to be that blacks rioted in the black neighborhoods.
Well, this is the first time that black people were rioting in the best parts of the country, Rodeo Drive in Hollywood, the Magnificent Mile in Chicago, all of the big stores on Fifth Avenue in New York City looting them.
This was a real change.
And not only, there were not only just blacks rioting, but a lot of white people.
It was horrible.
I think that must have really put the fear of God in a lot of people.
And then, of course, there's been the election of Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump this time came roaring back into office with a real team that had looked into all of the horrible anti-white regulation and legislation that has gone over for the last 20, 30 years, certainly under Biden, and reversed so much of it so rapidly.
I think it's those two things.
One was the shock of having hit bottom, and then the surprise and the elation of having a man in the White House who, if he himself doesn't understand race, and I'm convinced that he still does not, there are at least some people working for him that clearly do.
Stephen Miller.
Yes, Stephen Miller.
He's the best white man in the White House, if you ask me.
And Elon Musk, thank goodness for Elon Musk buying Twitter.
That has, well, as we say here in the South, it was a point where they stopped preaching and started meddling.
Well, I mean, it aroused a sleeping lion.
Well, I mean, it is true.
I mean, Elon Musk.
Well, Jared, we mentioned this at the top of the show tonight with Paul Kersey.
If Elon Musk had not bought Twitter, now X.
I don't know if the Irina Zarutska murder would have just been another one of the countless black-on-white murders that swipe down to the road.
It just becomes a statistic or a potential turning point.
But it has happened.
And well, here's Elon Musk again.
You mentioned him.
I'll read a quote just from within the last week, since our last show a week ago tonight, anyway.
This is Elon Musk writing, why is white always in lowercase, but black in uppercase New York Times?
And he gives their hashtag.
The New York Times is, this is what he writes.
The New York Times is deliberate, precise, and comprehensive in its anti-white racism.
I mean, Jared, you know this because you gave me a big bounce and a bump.
But I came back to Twitter last week, and there was somebody who commented that people doing this in broadcast media, oh, a sense of gratitude.
Anybody who is owed a debt of gratitude is you when it comes to black on white crime and some of these things.
I was here on ATA.
You were born in Japan and then this tweet here, currently riding the bus in Seoul, talking about South Korea at 1146 p.m. without fear of being stabbed to death by De Carlos.
Violent crime is a choice.
I mean, Jared, we are here now.
Did you ever think we would be here?
And with the assistance of one of the two most riches.
Well, all we need is to make sure that you get the credit for it, though.
Well, I mean, that's important.
I don't care who gets the credit.
I do not care who gets the credit.
These things are absolutely wonderful.
If I had a small part to play in it, I am happy.
And that Elon Musk is tweeting these things and that the President of the United States gave a talk from the Oval Office talking about what happened to Irina Zarutska.
Joe Biden would never have done that.
Colin Everett would never have done that.
And as you say, it might be thanks entirely to X that Irina Zarutska became the famous person she has become.
You know, there's another important thing, too.
I have not heard one peep of, oh, we can't make this a racial matter out of her family.
And that's a wonderful thing, too.
I think probably the fact of being Ukrainian is a really important thing.
But all of the things are line, everything is lining up in such a wonderful, positive, encouraging way.
I'm as mystified and as ecstatic as you are.
Maybe more so.
It is a terrible thing, of course.
I agree with you 100%.
Everything you just said, I agree and I double down on and I echo.
It is a terrible thing, of course, as you would agree, that we are having this conversation tonight because of the fact that Irina Zarutska was murdered, because of the fact that Charlie Kirk was murdered.
And we'll get to that in just a moment.
But, you know, let's talk, let's give credit where it is due.
You know Bill Rowland and or you knew Bill Rowland.
And we talked about him earlier tonight, about how anything can be justified.
If you are looking for any reason to criticize someone, you can always find it.
But if you put it on a balance, you put it on a scale, you look at Musk, you look at Trump.
So here we are.
Here you have Musk with X, and I mean, now we're back and sort of.
But with Trump in the Oval Office showing these photos.
Now, yes, he said this is what happens in a democratic city.
Okay, so we could criticize that if we wanted to, but where is the credit?
The credit is that he's showing these photos.
He's showing a photo of an angelic-looking young blonde woman, vis-a-vis this monstrous-looking black man.
And Trump, I tell you, Jared, Trump seemed to be genuinely bothered by it in the Oval Office.
And this was a difference.
Yeah, exactly.
What a difference from where we were or where we could have been.
But this was a quote, a quote, Jared, a direct quote from Trump on Twitter in 2013.
And he wrote, and I quote, this is from the president.
The overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks, a tough subject.
It must be discussed.
I think he gets it.
I mean, he is the president.
You've got to understand he's being pulled in all different directions.
He is getting the National Guard in Memphis now.
We need that backup, to be sure.
But I mean, you know, we could let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
President Taylor would do better than President Trump.
Yes, but where are we now, Jared?
I mean, did you ever, did you think we would live long enough to see this day?
Well, it depends on when you asked me.
In 2020, in 2020, I thought this country, if we keep going in this direction, we'll all be dead well before our time, and this country will never be a fit home for anything resembling a white man.
No, as I say, this bounce back up from the bottom that we hit so jarringly in 2020 has, you know, I hate to put it in these terms, but it makes it almost makes it worthwhile.
I mean, I look back on all the horrible things that happened in 2020, but if we had to go through that kind of hell in order to reach where we are now, then, you know, you have to swallow hard.
And I would say, I guess it was worth it.
But however it has happened, whoever has made it happen, I've never been more positive about our prospects.
And of course, you've probably talked about this already.
But today we had that magnificent demonstration of English-British white pride in London.
People are estimating millions of people in the streets.
You've seen some of those drones.
Elon Musk spoke at it.
What?
He spoke at that?
I didn't know that.
I believe that is what Peter Brimelow mentioned.
I had not heard that either.
And I only caught it in passing in the last, I mean, or if he didn't speak at it, he might have commented on it.
We don't know exactly.
But we've seen the pictures.
It's interesting, Jared, that you bring that up because last week we had two people from the UK talking about this summer of unrest in our mother countries and on the British Isles.
And so we were, you know, that was just last week's show.
We did two hours on that, in fact, out of the three that we have each week.
And so, and then on the heels of that comes this.
So there just seems to be something at foot, something at foot that, as you mentioned, I mean, we've been on the air now 21 years.
You've been doing American Renaissance much longer than that.
And all the way up into 2020, it looked as if it was, well, I mean, we'll do our duty as General Lee tells us to do.
And the rest is in God's hand.
And we'll be satisfied with that.
But now it appears as though it may all be turning around throughout the Western world.
You know, the criminality, you hear that we've heard for years that white supremacists and white people and right-wingers were responsible for the crime.
And for example, I remember when John F. Kennedy was killed, the mainstream media was convinced that some Klansman had done him in and whatnot.
And now I think finally people are beginning to understand the truth, which is that everything, all the criminality is emanating from the left.
Well, I saw Jared a clip from one of the Lord of the Rings.
I don't remember which episode it was or which sequel it was, where the dam breaks and the orcs are swept under by this tidal wave.
And I just wonder, I mean, is it possible?
Is it too good to be true that we could be approaching that point?
What do you think?
I mean, you've been on both sides of it.
You've been fighting this your whole life.
You should know.
We must not rest.
This is the time to be ever more active.
This is an opportunity.
We must not let it slip through our fingers.
As more people come our way, we have to encourage them.
We have to lead them.
And I think that if enough of us really concentrate our minds and we put our shoulders to the wheel, maybe this is a genuine turning point.
You never know.
You never know.
Mark Twain used to say, predictions are pretty tricky business, especially because you're talking about the future.
What's that Yogi Berra?
Let me see.
Mark Twain said.
Yes.
I was just going to say, that was Twain, for sure.
Yogi said it later.
But this was something that I read in my week back on X. Boy, I missed a big party.
I don't know what happened in the last two and a half years, but it's a totally different ballgame now, Jared.
I mean, you came back very recently as well, just earlier this year after the Fortnite 80s.
I can't believe I've been banned.
Yes, Keith, banned.
Yeah, I mean, but here we are.
I read something there.
Very few.
I'm trying to think in the times in my life where I've ever read something that brought me to, you know, swell with emotion, swell with tears.
But this was it.
This is one of them.
And the commenter wrote, she curled up in the chair, stabbed and bleeding, her eyes wide, lips parted, hands clutching the wound.
She looked to the faces around her and saw strangers, foreigners, and aliens, but no kin, no help, no pity.
Only the dull gaze of a mixed multitude shuffling past her like cattle.
Her name was Irina Zarutska.
She was young, white, and beautiful, a daughter of Europe, a vision of form, poise, and possibility.
And she died.
She died in a Charlotte train at the hands of a savage let loose upon civilization by sadists who despise us.
She died not just because he hated, she dies because of what she was.
White, beautiful, innocent, and unapologetically superior in form and presence.
Jared, you know, I bring this up to you now because I'm looking an hour ago.
I brought this up with Peter Brimelow a few minutes ago.
One hour ago, as we sit here now, Stephen Miller posted the picture with no commentary, no words at all, just the picture of Irina Zarutska cowering after she had been stabbed with seconds to live.
Stephen Miller of Donald Trump's White House posted that picture.
What does that mean?
First of all, who wrote those moving words?
Do you know the author of those words?
I will tell you.
He is someone who has followed me on Twitter for the last week since I have rejoined.
I will send it to you.
I will send.
He wrote a lot more than that.
The time didn't permit me to read it all, but I will send it all to you.
Yes.
That is very moving.
And the point is, more and more white people see it that way.
I mean, we've been slapped in the face so many times.
Sometimes it is astonishing that there's so many white people who are not awake.
But the number whose eyes are opening is rising all the time, and they bring people with them.
So, yes.
And Stephen Miller, you know, many people have just posted.
Stephen Miller just posting the photo with nothing else an hour ago, not last week, not days ago when it was still a little more current.
An hour ago, just a picture of her cowering and dying at the hands of this.
Brother Edwards, Brother Edwards, this is an astonishing tribute to the power of images and video because there were two other beautiful white women who were murdered by blacks.
And one was a case of road rage, Caitlin, Caitlin Stakes, or something like that, a 17-year-old blonde girl shot wantonly by a black guy who had the utter gall to tell the police after he'd shot this beautiful girl that he was returning fire.
I mean, that is so typical of the way they operate.
And then there was this woman, Schnell, what was her name, a professor at Auburn, who was shot for her Ford 150.
And that was since the death of that we that was.
Yeah, that's even more recent.
Well, and the point is, those deaths, of course, were just as horrible as the death of Irina Zarutska.
But it wasn't on video, and that makes a huge difference.
Now, I think Irina Zarutska, in her case, I mean, she was an absolute beauty.
And every red-blooded man, I think, is going to see even worse red when somebody as gorgeous, really a spectacular human being, but these other two women, too, very attractive white women, murdered, butchered wantonly by blacks.
They are still unsung.
And that is even more recent compared to Irina Zarutska.
Do you feel vindicated?
I beg your pardon.
I said, do you feel vindicated?
You've been toiling in the vineyard now for decades, and it looks like things are finally beginning to bear fruit.
You know, vindication is the wrong word.
I'm delighted.
I'm delighted.
The things are going our way.
And again, if I had some small part to play in making these things happen, awakening enough people, I feel proud of myself.
As Robert E. Lee said.
And as Brother James quoted, do your duty.
Do your duty.
That's all you can do.
And we follow the orders of General Lee, and we will do no wrong.
Well, that is exactly right.
And I appreciate that.
And people have wised up and are finally seeing things your way.
Well, it's not his way or my way or your way.
It's our way.
And this is the truth's way.
This is what it is.
I would bring this up, though, because you can relate to this enough if you can.
You know, the invitations from Polyzan back in the 90s and early 2000s.
Oh, that's right.
But, you know, one of my appearances, Jared, on CNN was a one-on-one debate with the NAACP president at the time after the Knoxville horror.
And it's interesting that that one with Channel Christian and Christopher Newsom, the one since Irina Zarutska in Auburn, somewhere in Alabama.
I mean, you just mentioned it.
Yes.
There's been so many, countless.
I mean, you wrote The Color of Crime.
You literally wrote the book on this.
You have documented these FBI statistics, the law enforcement statistics more than anybody on the planet.
But astonishingly, in this interview, with the NAACP president, he said that on national television, if the races had been reversed, had a gang of white people attacked two college sweethearts who happened to be black, but the media wouldn't have reported on it at all.
You know, why, though, is this one, why is Arena Zarutska?
I asked this of Paul Kersey earlier in the first hour.
Last question, Amrin.com, support him, follow him, do everything for him, Jared Taylor.
But why is this one, this particular black-on-white murder of all the hundreds of thousands and millions, why is this one causing the explosive reaction online?
I think it's for those two reasons.
She was a beautiful girl.
There have been many photographs of her online, and some of them make her look like practically a fashion model.
Absolutely knockout.
Gorgeous girl.
The other is the horror of that video.
She is attacked from behind.
She reacts in horror.
And the other thing is, every black in that tram, it's not as though we're coming to a stop, but they look around and they say, hmm, I think I'm going to be somewhere else.
Thank you very much.
And out they go, not a glance her way, not a finger lifted to help her.
They probably sympathize with the murderer.
I hope not.
I think they just decided that they want to go.
They were just going to boogie.
They were not going to stick around.
They certainly weren't going to help her.
They weren't going to get blood on their hands.
But that to me is as horrifying as anything else.
And now, something else I want to say about this DeCarlos Brown Jr.
And you've probably mentioned the fact that his daddy spent time in the big house.
He's got a half-brother who's in the pokey.
I mean, these are bad seed.
But in a certain respect, these people are just the tip of the iceberg.
I don't know to what extent you've gotten into the fact.
I would say criminals belong in prison.
That's all that's the answer to.
We didn't even get to that, Jared.
I mean, yes, absolutely.
I mean, Jared, I mean, this judge, the music is playing now.
I mean, this judge that released her, we have 10 seconds.
Go with it.
Well, she is a black white hater.
She was appointed by a black white hater.
She was nominated by a black white hater.
All three of them black women who are as blackety black black DEI as the day is long.
It's part of a huge, huge problem in this country.
You watch it.
Watch the tip of the iceberg.
I've watched it a hundred times.
I'm the father of two daughters.
You said it first, Jared.
You were the one that was the trailblazer and shine light, and the people will find their own one.