The Political Cesspool - James Edwards - Radio Show Hour 1

Sept. 7, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards

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Radio Show Hour 1 – 2025/09/06

The United Kingdom has been a tinderbox for months. What is driving this outpouring of nationalist sentiment? We go directly to the source when former MEP Nick Griffin joins us live from England with a comprehensive report. Bonus: James Edwards and Nick Griffin are now back on Twitter/X. Follow them both @TPCJamesEdwards and @NickGriffinBTP.
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	You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
	The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
	And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to tonight's live broadcast of TPC Saturday evening, September the 6th.
	Tonight is my baby brother's birthday.
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	Happy birthday, Dad.
	I know you're tuned in as you always are.
	We had a great father and son and son get together last night, but work must intrude now.
	As we head over to the United Kingdom, which has been an absolute Tinderbox all summer, I have been waiting to do another show in the UK really since March around the world.
	There has been so much going on over there.
	It's been a few months since we've gone abroad.
	What is driving this outpouring of nationalist sentiment?
	We are going to go directly to the source with former MEP, Member of European Parliament, Nick Griffin.
	He's back with us live from England with a comprehensive report.
	Nick, always good to talk to you.
	How are you tonight?
	I'm very well.
	Thank you, James.
	It's great to be with you, as always.
	Well, let's get right down to it because, as I've said, I'm not the only one interested in this.
	We've gotten a lot of questions, and the first one will go right to it.
	Steve Bannon and others are suggesting that the UK is on the brink of civil war.
	Is that hyperbole?
	And if not, will that war be along racial lines?
	There's a degree of hyperbole, but also there's certainly some truth in it.
	The underlying tensions are there.
	The possibility of civil war has been there for some time.
	And I don't know if Bannon is specifically part of it, but there is an enormous operation, and it's funded by people who do not love Britain or the British people alone at all.
	It's funded by Likudnik billionaires from the United States who are funding vast efforts on alternative media to create a civil war in Britain.
	So there's a lot of money going into it.
	There's a lot of skilled talent going into it.
	So I think it's quite likely they'll get what they want.
	Social media, now that's an interesting answer, and that leads me to my next question.
	Social media, which, by the way, folks, now this is uncanny.
	Nick Griffin and I think alike.
	We talk a lot.
	I was texting Nick a couple of days ago about rejoining Twitter.
	And while I was sending the text, I got an email from his sub-stack saying he had rejoined Twitter or X as they call it now.
	So we'll talk about that later.
	That's an aside.
	But social media is, we were joining at the same day at the same time on Thursday.
	Social media is full of videos, Nick, as you've seen, of white marches all over the UK and implicitly pro-white national flags being displayed.
	Is this being shown by the BBC and other mainstream news outlets over there?
	It's being showed by the mainstream outlets, the old legacy media outlets, to a degree, of course, with the usual sneers and smears going on.
	But there is a new kid on the block, which is GB News, which started off a few years ago and it's being funded by a multi-millionaire liberal who made his money with an enormous initial investment from George Soros of about $70 million.
	And GB News has overtaken the BBC as the main source of news in Britain.
	And it's basically right-wing populist.
	A lot of what it says is entirely true.
	And it's an enormous difference.
	So you've got social media pushing the videos you're talking about, but they're also also being shown on what is now a loss-making but enormously powerful mainstream broadcasting network as well.
	You, throughout your decades of activism, leader of the British National Party, former member of the European Parliament, and the things you have done since, you have the ability to differentiate between the real McCoy and Brand X.
	So is this march and flag movement that we've all seen that all looks to be so encouraging, is it really?
	And I hope that it is.
	I'm not suggesting that it's not, but is it?
	The protests are absolutely grassroots and genuine.
	These are protests the government has continued.
	The Labour government has continued what the Tories started in terms of putting about 50,000 completely illegal immigrants every year into hotels all over the country.
	And although, in fact, the illegal part of our immigration problem is only a tiny part, because 50,000 illegals compared to 1.3 million legals, you can see where the problem really lies.
	But the illegals coming over in boats, being almost all of them unvetted males, and being in the news, and then they're put into quite flash hotels at taxpayers' expense in communities that hadn't previously seen immigration as a rule in any quantity.
	It's really made people angry.
	So on Saturday, for instance, there were, I think, 35 separate demonstrations, some of them really large.
	So, yeah, the things that you're seeing, those are genuine.
	The anger and resentment and uncertainty which has caused people to be so pleased to see the flags up and to take to putting them up themselves is also entirely genuine.
	But the promotion of it and the attempt to exploit it in order to create a civil war in Britain, not in order to save Britain.
	I could understand that argument.
	I can understand it.
	I wouldn't necessarily agree with it.
	I can understand it.
	But these people want a civil war in Britain because they want the British people so angry and mad against Muslims that they say about the slaughter in Gaza and in due course the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank in occupied Palestine.
	They say, it's a damn good thing.
	We're all for it.
	And while we're at it, let's go to war with Iran.
	And that is the motivation of the people trying to push a very tense Britain that has got some really serious problems into a civil war, which actually will not help.
	Well, all right.
	Again, one answer leads to another question.
	I am glad to hear your opinion is that this is a genuine grassroots leaderless uprising of our people.
	But of course, as you know, the whole peasants with pitchfork thing is difficult to sustain unless you have members of the elite or members of a different elite come and start to back you.
	I mean, at some point, it has to go beyond people in the streets.
	Is it sustainable?
	Do you think it's, you know, is this something that when winter comes, it's going to pass, it disappears?
	Because we were doing this last year, Nick.
	Last year, around this time, there was great uprisings in the streets of England.
	Yes.
	Last year it was moderately serious violence.
	Thus far, this year it hasn't been.
	Yeah, it'll probably die down a bit over the winter, but then one other thing will spark it off and it'll be back with a bang even more.
	And everything that the Labour government does basically seems to make it worse.
	They couldn't do a better job of making people angry, really.
	So is it sustainable?
	What's it going to do politically?
	Well, the short answer of that, you know that I'm not a great fan of Nigel Farage for various reasons.
	We'll talk about that.
	But he is a very clever politician, and his reform party is now 15 points ahead of the Labour government in the opinion polls.
	In some of them, basically, now reform has got almost as much support as the Labour Party and the official Conservative opposition put together.
	And we are heading for a political earthquake of a staggering scale in something between two and four years' time.
	Well, and Farage has got his finger on the pulse and he's saying the right things.
	And most of those people in the grassroots are also, they're not just putting up flags and going on demonstrations.
	They and the millions of people applauding them intend to vote for Farage and reform next time around.
	All right, so again, you would be the man.
	I mean, truly the man to ask this question.
	I think people who haven't been around forever might not know because when I hear Farage speak, I genuinely, or excuse me, generally, generally agree with a lot of what he says.
	But people forget that his first sort of entry into the political scene as the Nigel Farage we know today, his first mission was to defeat Nick Griffin.
	His own words and very primetime appearances were, we have to stop Nick Griffin, we have to stop the British National Party.
	How can people who are advocates of whites or of a white Britain, can you trust this guy?
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	It's again his own words.
	He's constantly said.
	He doesn't say it too much for large interviews and so on.
	But he's constantly said, just as Tommy Robinson and the others say, they all say the problem is with Muslim immigration, or they say that.
	Farage in particular says the problem is with illegal immigration.
	But he's openly and repeatedly said that Britain needs massive immigration.
	And his answer to where it should come from is it shouldn't be illegals.
	He implies it shouldn't be Muslims.
	But he says that it should be huge numbers of Indians and Hindus and large numbers of Africans.
	And he's been very hostile in the past to when we were in the European Union.
	He was rabidly against immigration from white Eastern, Christian Eastern Europe and saying the key reason the whites wrong to have Poles coming in is that it shuts out our traditional flows of immigration from places like the West Indies and India.
	Now as far as I'm concerned as a rape as an ethno-racial nationalist, I don't want vast numbers of Poles here, but they are assimilable, they're decent, they basically are people.
	I do not want Hindus any more than I do Muslims.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	And amen again.
	We have to take our first break of the hour.
	I'm going to pick up on Farage and Nick will continue his thoughts.
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	All right, we are back with Nick Griffin, and let me restate his Twitter.
	Again, we both came back this week, but we were not reinstated.
	We had to start from scratch.
	That is to say, we were starting with zero followers after having built up coveted followings.
	Nick was over 70,000 strong.
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	I'm starting from zero, both as of Thursday.
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	Link over to his substack.
	And he is a prolific writer.
	Content all the time there.
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	Every time I get the preview issue from the editors, I do a Control-F search for Nick's name to see what he's writing about this week.
	So anyway, going back to Farage.
	So again, is he the one to stand to benefit from this righteous backlash from our people?
	And if so, how does that, you know, how can our interests actually be served?
	He certainly is.
	There's no one else in the running at the moment.
	So now, barring a very major upset, he's going to be the Prime Minister, probably with a large enough majority to actually rule and try and do what he wants.
	Whether, on the other hand, he'll have the personnel to really form an effective government with the best will in the world, I'm not sure.
	Perhaps he will, because all the other parties will sneer against him and say, oh, they've got no experience in Parliament.
	But what they have got is got, for instance, people who've been in business for themselves for 30 years.
	Whereas all the people who go into parliament for the other parties come either direct from trade union research departments or from various right-wing think tanks.
	None of them have done a day's work in the real world in their lives.
	So Farage's people may surprise the country in terms of actually being able to do a decent job.
	But equally, the demographic shambles that is Britain, and I'm not just, and the West as a whole, in fact, I'm not just talking about immigration of them.
	I'm talking about the catastrophic collapse in our population, which is now coming about as the baby boomers start to die off.
	There's no solution to this.
	There's no political solution.
	This is the end of Western modern capitalist consumer civilization.
	Our people will carry on, but at the other end of this catastrophe, they're going to be something very different, probably, well, certainly far fewer, living a much more simple existence.
	So Farage cannot save this country if what you mean by saving the country is putting things back to normal.
	There's no going back to normal.
	But having said that, it's going to be tremendous fun to watch.
	And I think that while he will make no effort whatsoever to keep out huge numbers of immigrants, he will, I think, stop the illegals coming in, which will make the British people feel a little bit happier and more secure.
	Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, of course, that depends on whether you think that things have to get worse before they get better.
	Nick, this is Keith Alexander.
	Hi, Keith.
	Yes, how are you doing?
	Nigel Farage.
	Always seemed to me to be a weak cup of tea.
	Do you have anybody that has a Chinaman's chance of getting into power over there that would be for remigration of these immigrants that have basically changed the whole character of England?
	Well, there's a party has been set up by a man who used to be involved with Farage, and it's called Advance UK.
	And most of the Tommy Robinson type, absolutely clearly Zionist-funded social media people, people are saying, you've got to support Advance UK because they're much more serious, they're much tougher.
	Unfortunately, they're not.
	I mean, their leader is a man called Ben Habib, who's half Pakistani.
	They talk a tougher tale on immigration.
	They would certainly kick out, if they got into power, every single Muslim in the country, or try to.
	But they'll open the door to the Hindus and the Africans, and they are utterly, Farage, as you probably know, he went up against Musk, refusing to have Tommy Robinson on his team.
	Farage has a hint of independence against the Israeli lobby.
	The people who are being already set up to be the alternative if and when reform fails, they are absolutely the creatures of the Zionists from the very start to the very end.
	And so if Farage fails, they are the ones who will benefit.
	Well, of course, that means they'll be liberal if the Hebrews are behind him.
	What did you say?
	His name was Habib?
	Ben Habib.
	Ben Habib.
	Is he a Hindu?
	Oh, no, he's a Muslim.
	Well, his father was Muslim.
	His mother was English.
	And absurdly, these people, it's quite incredible.
	These people say to the public, oh, you can't follow Farage because the chairman of reform is a Muslim.
	Join this party instead.
	And his leader is a Muslim.
	It's frankly bizarre.
	But people are so angry.
	And the more the media and the politicians attack people like Farage, or for that matter, Ben Habib and his party, the more people think, well, then they must be all right because the BPC is attacking them.
	And of course, it's not necessarily the case.
	What I will say is that all these people are raising expectations that they cannot possibly meet.
	They're raising the expectation in the British people they're going to get their country back, and they're not going to.
	This puts them in a position that Farage won't save things, but he could easily become the Kerensky to a future Lenin.
	Or if you're into Irish politics, he's the John Redmond to a future Michael Collins.
	They're going to open – when a corrupt system tries to reform itself, and this is fundamentally an attempt to reform, by reform, that's when corrupt systems are up there most endangered to real revolutionary change.
	That's what I was going to ask you.
	What is the point at which Nigel Farage, if he does what you anticipate he will do and not much, that the English people just decide that we're going to have to bring out the pitchforks and the torches?
	I would say not very long because most people already have complete contempt for all politicians and they think that Farage might be different, but they don't really love him, actually.
	Most people don't really love him.
	They admire him for what he's done and they have hope in him.
	But time and time again, they say, well, I hope he'll do what he says he does, but I'm not sure.
	So that question marks already in their mind.
	Well, that's important.
	So I think it wouldn't take long.
	All right.
	This is an important time to pause and recap because Nick has said a lot of things here that I want to summarize because I think you need to hear them again.
	There is a genuine.
	Let me see if I can get this right so far, Nick.
	There is a very genuine grassroots uprising taking place, not just in London, not just in England, but throughout the UK.
	We're going to talk about Scotland and other places in a moment.
	Nigel Farage stands to be the beneficiary of that, at least in the short term, but he could lead to something bigger and better.
	And as you have said, Nick, and you've been very consistent with this message for at least a few years now in your appearances at our last couple of conferences on the radio here, that going back and changing things through the existing system is over.
	But that does not mean that our people are over.
	So anyone who finds themselves discouraged over the fact that all of this encouraging activism is just going to lead to Farage's victory and that's the end of it.
	I don't think it's going to play that way.
	And I don't think you think it's going to play that way, Nick.
	And so, and so, and again, the encouraging thing is our people are not over just because this system cannot endure.
	And do you find yourself, Nick, do you believe that, and it's not just British whites, it's whites worldwide.
	You know, we're still prone to this awful disease of niceness.
	Do you believe that we can overcome that?
	And are we overcoming that?
	I think the British people are well over being nice now, actually.
	And I was speaking actually to a fairly radical, really believing Muslim that I know quite well the other day.
	And I was saying to him that you people, I don't think you have the faintest idea that the British, especially the English that you're dealing with now, are a totally different people in the mentality to the ones that you've grown up with and you were dealing with up until two years ago.
	There's an enormous change.
	And I think the masochistic, soft switch in Britain's head, which has been there for decades now, that's flipped.
	Now, I told him actually on a show this time, no, yeah, well over a year ago now, I said that the problem that everybody other than us have is that the default position of Western European man is actually psychotic and applied organized violence.
	That's our history.
	We're far far, that's why we conquered the rest of the world.
	We're far more brutal and efficient and calculating and dangerous than anybody else.
	And that switch has been switched off.
	And I think the switch has been switched back, which makes the white man in general, the British in particular, potentially very dangerous indeed.
	You're talking about, as Kipler, Kipling put it, the Saxon is beginning to hate again the best possible time.
	And time shall date from the time the Saxon began to hate.
	Yes.
	Indeed.
	Values.
	You know, I was always baffled by this, you know, passivity on the part of the British.
	When I went over there, quite frankly, the British were best known for their snobbery.
	You know, they've had that, they could put down with the best of people and also exclude with the best of people.
	But, you know, for example, they've now allowed a black soft porn performer to be a princess, but there's never been a Cockney princess in the history of England, as far as I can tell.
	Don't worry, don't worry, Keith.
	They do absolutely hate her.
	Don't worry about that.
	But let me ask you this.
	Farage, I think, may have the will, but not a ways.
	He reminds me that he will probably be like Donald Trump in his first term.
	He thinks because he signs their paycheck or because he's a boss, he'll do what he wants.
	They won't.
	But does he have the know-how and the competence backing him up to really make significant change?
	Well, let's take a break because we have to, but we'll ponder that question and then we'll come back.
	I do want to move on to other things beyond Farage.
	I mean, he is not the answer and he is not our hope, but it is interesting and he plays a role in it all, to be sure.
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	All right, we are back with the one and the only Nick Griffin, former member of the European Parliament, former chairman of the British National Party, longtime contributor to TPC, many, many, many years.
	We were talking about some other folks we know during the break, and it's going by fast, that's for sure, as life always does.
	But folks, do not be dismayed.
	What we are telling you is, what Nick is telling you, and what I feel is that there are very positive things happening in the UK right now.
	There's anecdotal evidence.
	There is physical evidence.
	There is all kinds of evidence.
	Now, yes, in the short term, it may lead to Nigel Varage's victory, but it will not end there.
	It will not end there.
	It will move beyond him, through him, over him.
	And we see that.
	These people are not going to be placated because he is elected and that's just the end of it all.
	Now, this will continue to reassert itself.
	Now, so here's the thing, though, but I do have to ask you this, and then we'll move on from Farage entirely.
	But this, I believe his party, this is a question that came in from a listener.
	Reform UK has many non-whites in positions of power.
	Its chairman David Bull has said that the UK was, quote, built by immigrants, end quote, and he supports teaching the LGBT poison in school.
	So, you know, are the decent people in Faraja's party unable to see this self-contradictory stuff?
	Yeah, well, David Bull, you know, it's supposed to be a traditionalist party.
	Its chairman, David Bull, is an open homosexual, who, as you say, promotes at least the gay and lesbian agenda, if not the trans one.
	They sort of draw the line at that.
	He's full of bull, in other words.
	He's peaceful of bull.
	You're right, Keith.
	And the other key figure is a Pakistani.
	So then there's a lot of ethnics within the party.
	There's also a lot of very good people in it, especially at the mall grassroots.
	Yeah, that's the simple answer to that.
	Before we move on and away from this, James and Keith, I need to go back to the question of civil war.
	So your listeners and you aren't in due course potentially caught awares.
	Because I explained how the British, you know, the indigenous attitude has changed drastically over the last couple of years and how the Muslims especially don't have any conception of that, which means they now underestimate us, which is a dangerous thing to do.
	But equally, all the people who are racing around around the neocon and Zionist provocateurs, all saying, oh, we're going to get remigration, you know, we're just going to need to get a government in.
	We'll throw them all out.
	We'll force them out, you know, etc., etc.
	They haven't the faintest conception of what is going to happen if and when a group of silly youngsters who've been taken in by that sort of stuff go in and attack a mosque.
	And they're going to be murdered.
	They're going to be killed.
	Because the Muslims, although there's not that many of them, they're younger than us.
	They're extremely well organised.
	They run all the minicabs, the taxis, in every town, basically, which means they've got eyes and ears and instant transport to move people around.
	And they will come out to defend their communities, their women and their mosques.
	And they will do so with armed and murderous violence.
	And if it comes to a fighting civil war, which all these people want, I'm not kidding you, they're desperate to incite a civil war.
	And in the first stages of that, if it comes to it, our people will be slaughtered on an industrial scale.
	That's the simple fact of it.
	And then, after a bit, after it can be something between 200,000 dead or 200 or 3 million dead, then the British will lose the last of their liberalism and they'll kick back and it'll get very nasty for the other side.
	But at the end of it, no one can win this.
	There's too many of them for us to force out.
	There's too many of us for them to conquer.
	So we'll have 30 years.
	It'll be just like Northern Ireland, 30 years of horror.
	And at the end of it, the psychopaths who come to the top in both sides will sit down and do some kind of horrible, gory peace deal and carve things up between themselves.
	And then sensible people will then say, we've had 30 years of horror, let's try to disengage and find peaceful ways to get these people back to their own country.
	I think that's going to happen one day, but I would rather avoid the civil war and try to move to the disengagement stage without the horror and the violence, you know, in between time.
	And it could be done.
	As the world becomes more multipolar and potentially Western banks stop looting the third world and the United States and Britain stop bombing the third world, as their countries improve, a lot of those people actually want to go back if they could.
	So I believe in a peaceful disengagement, the disengagement has to come.
	But at present, you're quite likely to wake up in six days, six weeks, six months or six years' time and find that Britain, France, Germany, etc. are in the throes of a most appalling civil war.
	Well, what we've noticed about immigrants in America, and I'm sure immigrants in Europe as well, these people really don't want to assimilate.
	They just want to recreate their own society under more prosperous circumstances in your nation.
	Now, have we got anybody on the horizon in England or elsewhere?
	Well, Keith, actually, this is another question that's come in for Nick, and this is just to piggyback you and not to interrupt you, my friend, but this is something to give you a name, to put a name to your general question.
	A listener writes, Nick, Rupert Lowe seems to be sincere.
	I don't know who this is, so I'm just reading this.
	Rupert Lowe seems to be.
	No, Rupert Bear.
	Rupert Lowe seems to be sincere and not a creature of the deep state.
	What do you think of Lowe and restore Britain?
	Rupert Lowe is a member of parliament.
	He was elected for reform.
	He then fell out with Farage, and he's now independent.
	Yeah, he talks a much better fight, but he is a rabid Zionist.
	Although he did, to be fair, recently, when questioned about halal and kosher ritual slaughter, all the, naturally, all the Zionist puppet troublemakers are always screaming about halal ritual slaughter.
	They never mentioned kosher.
	And Lowe said, yeah, they should both be banned.
	So that does indicate either a naivety or a preparedness to be something different.
	But he's in his early 60s, I think.
	He's not particularly charismatic.
	He's got no party machine around him.
	So, no, I don't think that he is going to change anything.
	One of the things Keith said there, these people come in, they don't assimilate.
	As far as I'm concerned, that's absolutely wonderful.
	And part of the problem with the Farage, Tommy Robinson messages, et cetera, is we want immigrants who can assimilate.
	We want Africans and so on because they'll assimilate in the way that the Muslims don't.
	I don't want to marrying them.
	Thank you very much.
	Assimilation is annihilation for us.
	It's as simple as that.
	We don't want assimilation.
	I would rather, in fact, have Muslim communities who stick to themselves than de-rasinated Africans who just come over here and want to run around with our women and do all the things that Africans do.
	I'd want to get rid of the Muslim population in this country, but that can only be done by negotiation consent and over a long period of time.
	But the last thing we want is non-white immigrants coming in and assimilating into our society.
	Do you think there's any chance of anybody doing what Trump is now doing and sending the military or your version of the National Guard into these cities that have large foreign populations?
	Yeah, London has a lot in common with DC.
	Yeah, right.
	They need to go in there and kick ass and take names.
	No, no possibility of that for two reasons.
	One, we don't have an equivalent of the National Guard.
	Two, our army, the effective fighting strength of the British Army is 45,000 men.
	Now, it took 130,000 in the British Army, plus local security forces, very strong, very effective, and heavily armed, tens of thousands of them, to control Northern Ireland, which is a tiny little statelet.
	You can drive across it in two hours, and it had a total population of one and a half million.
	Top whack.
	There's no possibility that the British Army could control half of London, let alone the rest of the country.
	So, no, no one's going to be able to do that.
	All right.
	Well, that being said, so we have about a minute before the last break.
	When we come back, a hero has emerged.
	Someone from which we can draw inspiration.
	Out of all the madness, out of everything that's going on, someone has stepped forward.
	And it is in the Bible, a little child shall lead them.
	It is a 14-year-old.
	Indeed, Keith, I hijacked.
	Well, everybody's been talking about it, but I did hijack one of Nick's posts at his Substack, Poster Girl of the Coming Explosion.
	Yes, what we are telling you is that it is moving in the right direction in many ways.
	There will be pumps and pit stops and Farage in the middle.
	But what is coming?
	Well, if this little girl is an indication, something good, we think.
	We will let Nick break that down entirely for us after this last break.
	This young girl in Scotland that brandished a dagger and a hatchet to fend off some apparent migrant sex pests, as Nick puts it.
	We'll get that whole story after the break.
	But Nick, plug all these new social media outlets you've got.
	You're on Telegram, you're on Substack Now.
	Wonderful content.
	Substack Twitter very new.
	You've mentioned Twitter X a couple of times.
	That's Nick Griffin B T P on Telegram on t.me forward slash Nick Griffin.
	And important really, Nick Griffin beyond the pale on Substack.
	And I'm free to subscribe to me there, but please come and follow me.
	Read what I'm writing.
	Nick Griffin Beyond the Pale on Substack.
	I read it.
	I follow.
	I'm there.
	I don't ask you to do anything that I'm not already doing, folks.
	We'll be right back with Nick Griffin to talk about the poster girl of the coming explosion.
	Stay tuned.
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	Well, you just heard during the commercial break, ladies and gentlemen, an ad from our friend, Reverend Dowson, Jim Dowson, friend of Nick Griffin's as well.
	Great.
	Great guy, also in the UK fighting this fight for many, many decades.
	And I've received an email from yet another mutual friend in the mother countries.
	And that's a person.
	We won't mention his name.
	We'll mention his first name, Andy.
	Nick knows him.
	And he sent an email in just a couple of days ago.
	And he talks about some illness, an illness that he has.
	And he says that.
	I listened to your wonderful, he's writing to me, I listen to your wonderful show because it keeps me alive.
	Even the doctors are amazed at how I stay focused, and it's due to my brothers, you, Nick Griffin, Jim Dollson, and a few others.
	I am doing all I can to continue our fight for our Lord Jesus Christ.
	I'm on a roll at the moment.
	I love you, my brother.
	It's been a long time in the battlefront, and I'm glad that you've been a part of it all these years.
	So, you know, Nick, that's a thing.
	You know, at the end of the day, this is what we fight for.
	We fight for each other.
	People say, what are you fighting for?
	You're fighting for the man next to you.
	I mean, that's true in battle, but it's also true that we're fighting for something bigger than that.
	We are fighting for our nations.
	We're fighting for our past, our presence in our future.
	We're fighting for our ancestors.
	We're fighting for children in our line that we'll never know.
	But there is something about these bonds, these ties that bind.
	It's very special, and you only feel it if you suffer together.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, let's go back to this then.
	And that is this girl.
	This is a story coming out of the UK that everybody's talking about.
	Break it down for us.
	Well, this is a girl, actually, and there was a lot of confusion.
	The media said she was 14.
	Actually, this girl is 12.
	She was defending her 14-year-old sister and a younger sister as well.
	And they were approached by an immigrant of some sort.
	Now, again, all the usual suspects who want a civil war in this country are saying he was a Muslim.
	No, he wasn't.
	He was a Romanian, almost certainly a Roma gypsy.
	Actually wearing a cross.
	Certainly not a Muslim.
	But an immigrant, and the papers, the media said, oh, no, he's not an immigrant.
	He's lived here three years, and he's not living in a hotel.
	He's living in a council house, in a project house.
	You know, that's great when you've got homeless ex-servicemen on the streets of Dundee.
	But we're supposed to be happy.
	He's living in a project house.
	Anyway, the girls felt threatened and between them got together and this young girl got out a big knife and a hatchet and was seen brandishing, screaming, get the F away from my sister.
	Don't touch her, don't touch her, etc.
	And it went, as you know, it went viral.
	And she really has become the poster girl instantly.
	Her image was put through AI meme-making operations and so on.
	And there's an almost, well, there's a flood of braveheart type memes of this slip of a girl with these two weapons, you know, taking on in people's minds, the Romans as they invaded Scotland or the English as they invaded Scotland, or now the invaders as they invade Scotland.
	And she has become a heroine, without a shadow of a doubt.
	As I said, the poster girl for the revolution, which is frankly bizarre because she's 12 years old, with not clearly, she doesn't have a political thought in her head, from apparently a rough family in a rough part of Dundee.
	Actually, exactly the sort of place that soldiers have been recruited from to go and fight and die for this country over many centuries.
	And as always, the elite sneer at these people when they don't want them.
	But again, Kipling wrote a poem about that.
	It's thank you, Mr. Atkins, when the shells begin to whine.
	And it's a little bit like there, this utter contempt of the elite for this girl and everything she represents.
	And the ordinary British people now, so sick of everything that's happened that they no longer are interested about respectability.
	The fact that she's probably going to be a foulmouth fishwife in a few years' time, if we still fish, people aren't fussed.
	She is just an image of young Britons standing up and fighting back.
	She's the polar opposite of Greta Thunberg.
	Exactly.
	She's the polar opposite of Greta Thunberg and I have no doubt a far better and more based and sensible person than Greta Thunberg.
	So, yeah, quite tremendous.
	And there's been all sorts of media smears put about her.
	And of course, she's been arrested by the police.
	And carrying a blade in Scotland carries a mandatory prison sentence.
	So they have the problem that they're going to have to put her in prison.
	What they should, of course, is just say, you know, we looked at this and there was intense provocation, you know, and we're dropping charges.
	But the police and the prosecution service in Scotland are even more left-wing and insane than the ones in England, if that's possible.
	So I'm sure that they would go on digging a hole for themselves.
	And this girl is going to be persecuted and smeared.
	And the public will have nothing but sympathy for her, admiration and respect.
	Well, you see, I mean, now, I mean, it has reached untold millions, tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people online worldwide.
	The comparisons to Boudica, this whole thing about Scottish Joan of Arc.
	Yes, yeah, I've seen that one too.
	Very good.
	And this whole thing, and it's really good.
	I mean, they are using this in a very smart way.
	I mean, I say using it.
	I mean, they're just, I mean, it's a question that needs to be asked.
	Where are the men?
	You know, where are the white men?
	Why is it a 12-year-old girl?
	And why not the white men to protect these girls?
	Why is it a 12-year-old girl?
	But a bigger question that should be asked, Nick, and has anybody asked it in the media over there?
	You tell me.
	Why does a 12-year-old girl feel that she needs to walk armed through her neighborhood?
	Well, in parts of cities like that in Scotland, I'm afraid, forget the immigrants.
	The place has fallen apart in social terms in such a staggering scale.
	Blame the right-wing heroine Margaret Thatcher more than anybody else with her no such thing as society and set about destroying the traditional industries of Britain.
	They needed to break the far-left trade unions.
	Having done that, they needed to rebuild the industries.
	She broke the unions and then got rid of the industries.
	So you've got whole towns, whole swathes of former industrial Britain, particularly in Scotland, where young people have nothing to look forward to.
	So there's drink, drugs, anti-social behaviour, all sorts of violence, and kids routinely go around armed for their own protection or because it's expected in the gang they're in, and that's the only thing they've got to belong to.
	It's the only thing that gives them any sort of sense of belonging and self-respect.
	So it's not actually good that young girls like that go around armed and young lads as well.
	And it's not necessarily primarily because they felt threatened by an immigrant.
	It's come out, you know, that's how it's happened, and they were able to defend themselves because of that.
	But the knife carrying and so on is actually a symptom of the decline and the collapse of the old Britain rather than something as a consequence of the immigration.
	Interesting.
	Well, that's an informed answer.
	That's why we have you on tonight.
	And thank you for sharing that with us.
	Now, a couple of minutes remain.
	More questions than we can get to.
	So, I will bring it to a close this hour.
	We're going to go to another fellow British activist and patriot, Nick Scanlon, to Nick's tonight.
	Nick Scanlon will be on his debut appearance on this program, although I've known him forever.
	He's been a longtime listener of the show.
	He's run for office over there in London.
	Nick knows him.
	Nick Griffin knows him.
	But he'll be coming up next.
	We will continue this conversation.
	But, Nick, with just two minutes remaining in this, our first hour, and again, as always, as I tell you every time you come on, thanks for staying up past midnight to accommodate our audience over here in the States.
	Anything you would like to close with that we haven't asked you?
	Oh, it's yeah, I think this: that if trouble kicks off in Britain in the scale it easily could, it will spread to France and Sweden and Holland and so on.
	Similarly, if it kicks off in any one of those countries, it'll probably spread as well.
	This is what makes it, I would say, more likely than not that within the next five years, you will see mass communal violence and something akin to a civil war over the whole of Western Europe.
	And when it happens, people should remember who told you that first.
	Yep, it's a powder cake, in other words, right?
	It is.
	It's a powder cake.
	Yeah, it's a powder cake.
	It's very like, and the it'll when it starts, it'll be football hooligan gangs because it's that's actually how the liberal American deep state, the people who have been ruining America, you know, I'm not blaming ordinary Americans for this.
	That's how they took apart the former Yugoslavia.
	And they started off with football gangs, then they armed them, and it ended up with mass murder on all sides and the destruction of that country.
	And the same is being done by various malign actors now with the whole of Western Europe as a target.
	It wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for the horrible, ghastly error and treason of mass immigration.
	But that having been done, it's actually extremely foolish to go around flicking matches into the powder cake that is Western Europe.
	And there's various, very bad people doing that right now.
	Nick, thank you again for another great appearance.
	And thanks to all the questioners for some really good questions.
	Thanks for those.
	Well, we left some on the table, but we will look forward to having you back.
	We always look forward to your appearances in March.
	That is a special month for us.
	It has become just really something that the audience enjoys and we enjoy too.
	Just such a special month of programming, March around the world.
	But you are not limited to that.
	And in the meantime, folks, checking him out on Twitter.
	He's back.
	I keep calling it that X. Telegram, Substack, and the American Free Press.
	Exclusive pieces from Nick Griffin in every edition of the American Free Press.
	He's everywhere you want to be.
	And Nick, we appreciate you.
	Thank you.
	Look forward to talking to you again soon.
	Thank you very much.
	Been a pleasure.
	God bless.
	Pleasure is all ours.
	All right.
	There he goes.
	Nick Griffin to Nick Scanlon, who is staying up even later to the 1 a.m. hour in England.
	Nick Scanlon, up next, we continue this conversation.
	And then we will get into the aforementioned return to Twitter by yours truly, Pat Buchanan.
	The push to get my old boss on the Presidential Medal of Freedom and a former government contractor, Patrick Martin, in the third hour.

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