May 21, 2016 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Well, folks, welcome back to the show.
Second of three hours live tonight, Saturday evening, May 21st.
We're at the American Renaissance Conference 2016 right here in our home state of Tennessee.
And you can't see what I'm doing right now, but I'm texting a good friend of mine, and he's a big fan of the gentleman who is on deck with us next, and I'm letting him know Don Wassall on the cesspool now.
So, you know, last hour we heard from four great guys, Jared Taylor, the man of the hour, the host of this event, Gene Andrews, so solid on Confederate issues and has been a guest on our show and a speaker at our 10-year anniversary event, Nathan D'AMigo, really busting onto the scene with Identity Europa and the work he's doing, just groundbreaking stuff.
It's great to have new organizations coming online and capable, charismatic, energetic, young individuals like Nathan he was on.
And then, of course, Bill Johnson, who needs no introduction if you've read or watched any news in the last couple of months.
But now we've got another one right on par with those, Don Wassel, Don Wassel of the American Freedom Union, the Nationalist Times newspaper, and, of course, Cast Football.
Don, how are you, brother?
I'm doing great, James.
Great to be with you.
It's great to have you back on the show.
Let's start with where we're at and what we're doing.
Your take on the conference, observations, musings, things you'd like to share with the folks that aren't as privileged as us tonight to be here in Burns, Tennessee at the Montgomery Bell State Park.
I don't know what Jared said, but I think it's the best AR conference ever.
That's what he said.
Yeah, I mean, attendance-wise, quality-wise, every aspect you look at, it's been a success from beginning to, well, it's not over until tomorrow, but starting with today, especially with James Edwards, who gave the first speech at 9 o'clock in the morning.
And the room was packed even then.
So we all, of course, we know how Jared runs this.
Everything goes on time.
The trains run on time here.
There's no doubt about that.
But yeah, I was very impressed.
I'm so glad I'm here.
I drove all the way from Pittsburgh.
Not the easiest drive.
I'm driving home tomorrow, but it's more than worth it.
I'm really happy.
That is a long one way, a quick turnaround and then back on the road all the way back up to Pennsylvania.
But you said it's worth it.
Absolutely.
The long haul.
I wouldn't want to be anywhere else but here right now.
You know, I knew, of course, the speakers, who the speakers were going to be.
And there was, of course, people like you that I had hoped to run into, but I didn't really know who all was coming because, you know, I didn't get on the phone and call everybody.
I know, hey, you're coming to Ambrand's.
But it was just so encouraging.
I walk in.
Don's one of the first people I run into last night.
And we've just had a good time catching up and sharing war stories and reflecting.
Can I give a war story or at least a story?
You can do anything you want.
I got here last night, and there was somebody here that looked almost exactly like you.
I don't know if you've seen him or not.
There's a guy here that looks a lot like you, bald and everything.
At first, I thought it was you, but it wasn't.
And somebody came up to me.
There's James Edwards everywhere.
No, I said that's not James.
That's a guy that looks like him.
It's not actually James.
This is incredible, folks.
I mean, Don is not exaggerating one bit.
I saw this guy.
I don't even know who he is.
I mean, I talked to him because he was like looking at my mirror reflecting.
I commented on, of course, how handsome he was.
But he said he got mistaken for me five times last night.
It was really uncanny and a little eerie how much this guy was really my doppelganger.
I was calling him your stunt double the rest of the day.
is a total clone.
Same, let me turn you down just a little bit, Don.
I'm going to turn you down so get a little bit closer to the mic when we talk to compensate for that.
But no, this guy was about the same build, about the same height, certainly had the same haircut.
I can't tell you enough how spooky that was, but he seemed like it would be a nice guy.
You're right.
Emphasis on handsome.
I mean, there's no question.
Well, from one handsome guy to another, you know, we can judge.
Well, as close as you can to the mic, you almost have to kiss that windscreen.
All right, so let's talk Cass football for a second.
Now, Cass football is not just a football site.
This is, of course, Don's internet website, very, very popular site that talks about racial realities.
Well, how would you describe it, Don?
It's about sports, race, and politics, but it's mainly about sports and how whites are discriminated against in sports and recruiting and also by the media when it comes to stereotyping white athletes in a negative way.
When in reality, we are the best athletes in the world.
Whites are the best athletes in the world.
And yet the average American, the average white American has a negative view of whites when it comes to athletics and sports.
And it's totally erroneous.
It's totally false.
It's a big lie.
And that's the purpose of Cass football, to refute that big lie.
And you said you've been following, even though the NBA conference finals are in full tilt, you've been following the hockey playoffs more.
Oh, I love hockey.
And I'm from Pittsburgh, and I love the Pittsburgh Penguins.
That's the only team I actually still root for anymore, the only team.
Other than that, I root for individual white athletes, but the Pittsburgh Penguins, of course, are all white.
Well, I actually have a black, half-black defenseman, but who cares?
But they're on a run.
They're trying to get to the Stanley Cup finals.
But, yeah, to me, hockey playoffs, the Stanley Cup playoffs are the toughest test in sports.
You have to win four best of seven rounds in a row to hold that Stanley Cup up.
And these guys, it is so tough.
It's not like football where you have 10 seconds where the guys hit each other and then it's over for 40 seconds.
These guys are skating around as fast as they can, beating each other up.
And, you know, there's a lot of grace and athleticism to it.
It's just to me, it's just a wonderful sport.
And so I love to watch hockey.
And I'm rooting for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
And they're playing.
So I take it.
They're still alive.
And they've got to be getting close to the five.
They're the Stanley Cup now.
Are we in the Stanley Cup right now?
Well, they're playing Tampa.
And if they beat Tampa, then they go to the Stanley Cup for Cups.
Okay.
Because it really runs pretty much parallel with the NBA season.
That's right.
Yeah.
Hockey starts about a week ahead.
So other than that, they're parallel all the way through the playoffs.
All right.
Nationalist Times, your newspaper.
It's been a newspaper for a long, long time.
1985, it started.
Still going strong.
It's the oldest political publication from a patriotic viewpoint in the United States.
From a patriotic viewpoint.
And, of course, the issues that we talk about on this show are talked about in print.
And you know, and that's the thing.
People like to receive their information in different ways.
Some people like the spoken word.
We do radio.
Some people have to watch it.
They need television.
And so you've got these outlets that offer videos and things like that.
And then, of course, there's people like me who still enjoy a hard copy and still enjoy a newspaper.
But particularly if it's a newspaper, because sometimes I like to sit down and read.
I like to read while I'm eating and I like to read something that's good.
And so the Nationalist Times can feel that, can scratch that itch.
And how can people subscribe to that?
Well, they can go to AmericanFreedomUnion.com if they want to subscribe online, or they can write us directly at P.O. Box218-Wildwood, Pennsylvania.
One word, Wildwood, Pennsylvania, 15091.
It's been around since 1985.
We're offering here at American Renaissance the lowest rate ever for new subscribers, $18 for one year.
They can subscribe for $18 one year through snail mail or $39 over the internet.
All right.
And if they do want to check out, and we were talking about all of these organizations that are out there, and you can't have enough of them.
Some new, some venerable, like the American Freedom Union.
And if they go to the American Freedom Union website, they can also from there while getting information about the American Freedom Union.
And folks, there cannot be enough of these organizations, and you should support and join as many as you can.
But while at the American Freedom Union website, they can link over and get subscription information for the Nationalist Times.
It's updated every day, AmericanFreedomUnion.com, except when I'm on the road, like I am right now.
But we link to the best stuff on the internet every day.
It's like the Drudge Report from a right-wing nationalist perspective.
Not as many articles, but it is updated every day.
It's a nice website.
And not talking about that, you know, the discipline.
Now, this is why Don Wassall is one of our heroes.
You know, the discipline it takes to run three different organizations, American Freedom Union, Nationalist Times, a publication, and then Cass Football.
It's a day in, day out, dull work, and you got to toil in the vineyard in order to reap a bounty.
And Don Wassel's been doing that for a long, long time.
James, I also help two political parties, the American Evil Party and the American Freedom Party.
We're going to come back with Don Wassall after this break and get as a parent.
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Well, folks, it's a sure enough party tonight.
I'm making up for about a well, what, five months worth of interviews tonight?
I mean, you know, we typically feature one, sometimes two guests in any given show, usually one, sometimes none.
So on an average, maybe one guest per night.
We've already had five this evening, and I'm talking about some big names that are out there working on behalf of our cause.
And Don Wassel is the latest on deck.
We've got another one coming on, Roger Devlin, right after him.
It's just one after another.
I got a text message during the commercial break.
Our old producer and engineer, Art Art Frith, who was with us at the local station in Memphis until he retired, he heard Don and I talking about the guy that looked like me that's out there.
And he said, there's a guy out there that looks just like you.
Oh, that poor SOB.
Art always could give me a hard time.
Art's a great guy, and he really did a lot in the show's formative years to help put us on the right track with regards to being as professional as we could possibly be.
I'm not going to say we're as professional as Art, but he kicked me in the rear a few times and got me going.
Well, Don, you know, we were coming up on that hard break just a moment ago, and I didn't want to rush you off because we were, of course, making mention of the fact that you are the man behind three different outlets out there, and I'm going to plug them one last time.
We're going to toss it over to Roger.
But Cast Football, give us that website.
Castfootball.us, C-A-S-T-E, just like the cast system in India, if you've heard of that, which I hope a lot of your listeners have, C-A-S-T-Efootball.us.
CastFootball.us, and then, of course, the American Freedom Union.
AmericanFreedomUnion.com.
And while you're there, you can get information about subscribing to the Nationalist Times.
Become elucidated every day by reading the material on there, and you can also subscribe to the Nationalist Times.
A parting shot, Don?
Anything else you want to say or cover that we haven't yet gotten to?
Well, other than that lookalike, I still just can't get over to what it's lookalike.
We've got to find that guy and get him on the radio.
Maybe we got to get him on it.
Maybe he sounds like me.
Maybe he can do my job and I can get a vacation for the first time in 11 years.
Well, it's been a great conference, and thanks for having me on, and I appreciate it, James.
Well, thank you.
Have a great rest of the evening, Don.
I know that Roger, has dinner been served yet?
I think it's being served now.
Well, you better go eat, Don.
I'll scramble over there.
Put something in the microwave for me.
Tell them I'm going to be in there at 10 o'clock.
All right, James.
Take care.
Thank you, my friend.
And now joining us again, one celebrity after another, Roger Devlin.
Hi there, Jim.
Roger Devlin with us, noted author and commentator.
How you doing, my friend?
Good to have you.
Just fine.
I'm doing great.
This is one of the best AR conferences I've ever been to.
The mood here is so positive.
A lot of Jared at the beginning asked all the first timers to raise their hands, and something like a third of the audience raised their hands.
I was surprised at that.
That was the very first thing when it kicked off last night.
So that was Friday night.
And I was surprised that that many were coming to their first AR conference.
That's right.
All ages.
A lot of them young, but even older people.
Well, the expression nowadays is red pills.
They're getting red pills.
Yeah, you hear that.
That's the new vernacular.
By the events they see in the news, the Black Lives hoax and the Trump campaign and then the bitter campaign against him by all the forces of the establishment.
Darkness, forces of darkness.
Yeah, that's the jargon, though.
All the new jargon's catching on, though.
You know, red-pilled and all-right and all of this stuff.
And it's really permeating now, obviously, the establishment.
I won't call them mainstream.
I will say we're as mainstream as anyone.
I mean, our voice is as diligent and as good as anything else out there.
But, I mean, certainly they are the establishment.
And we are, at least currently, the counterculture and the outsiders.
But that is apparently beginning to change.
Whether or not it will reach the extent of change that we need in order to get our seat at the table again, we'll find out.
But stuff's happening out there, Roger.
Yeah, one positive sign that I noticed is that this year only about three or four demonstrators showed up.
We have about the largest crowd of AR people here and a lot of press interest.
And the demonstration was a big flop.
About four hippies out there with a sign saying racism is caused by capitalism or something.
A real, real quaint old school Marxist.
And just a very few of them.
And so I don't see how anybody could look at our two groups and think that those guys represent the future.
Well, when those three guys in sorely need of a bath showed up, the gaggle of press that's here, you know, the press was outnumbering them.
Of course, they went to them like moths on a flame to get their take, you know, because it's very important what they have to say.
Yes.
And I'm sure they had a lot of astute observations to make, but the press was eating that up like nothing else.
But, you know, they may still be out there, you know, and we have a nice police protection here.
And of course, the staff here is just fantastic.
And the caliber of people here versus those who oppose us.
I think the contrast couldn't be more stark.
Right.
Right, right, right.
Yes, and we have a very international set here.
I guess you've discussed that.
We had a South African, an Estonian, two Flemings, and Mexican, you know, his family.
Yeah, yeah.
Fernando Cortez, very fascinating individual.
Yes, he was.
Talk with him.
Very interesting man.
He helped organize an identitarian gathering down in Guadalajara, which a number of celebrated people went to, Mike Jones.
Oh, yeah.
Well, of course, I remember that.
Mark Weber was there.
Were you there?
No, no, I didn't make it to Guadalajara.
But I mean, I think Weber was there.
We got to get Mark on.
Mark's one that promised he'd be coming in.
I got to go corral him during the next break.
I saw him with red ice.
Yeah.
That was apparently a wonderful event.
So it's good.
And the Mexican gentleman's presentation was something that really was new to a lot of people.
A lot of the other people, they're all great speakers, but there's kind of preaching to the choir.
But the Mexican kind of opened up a new world to us.
We didn't know that this kind of thing was going on down there.
But they have a very interesting scene.
And some of them are really in sync with nationalism here in the United States.
They see it.
It's such an abnormal situation to have 10, 15% of your nation living over the border in another country.
They got ghost towns down there in Mexico now.
Yeah, everybody's left.
And you would think a patriotic Mexican wouldn't like that situation and would prefer to see his own people building up their own country rather than, you know.
It was fascinating.
He was honest and fair and just a sharp, straight shooter.
And it's very unique flavor to have him.
And you were mentioning the international flavor.
It was like the United Nations here, but in a good way on the speaking dais.
And of course, Peter Brimelow, British.
Yeah, we have more diversity than the publicers have.
I'm looking, I mean, less than half of the people are Americans that are on there that are speaking.
I mean, myself, Ramsey Paul, Jared, and Sam Dixon.
Right, right.
I guess that's it.
So that's pretty fascinating.
I'm going to be going to Europe myself.
It looks like this fall.
I hope to forge some connections over there in England and Sweden.
Maybe some of you have heard of the Identitaire Ide conference.
Do you know about that, Jim?
No, I do not.
So you can enlighten me along with everyone else.
It's given every year in Stockholm, and I've been meaning to go, and it looks like I might even be able to give a short talk this year in October when it's given.
John Morgan of Arctos is heavily involved in it, and Daniel Freeberg and the whole Swedish motpole scene, if you're familiar with that.
I know you've been on the Swedish program Mot Gift.
You know, I love those guys.
Jonas DeGuerre, if he's listening.
I mean, he is one of the people that's at the very top 1% of people that I have a tremendous amount of respect for.
And what they've done over there.
I mean, that's, again, what we're talking about, what's going on over here, what's going on over there, and in different parts of the West throughout Europe.
I mean, what Jonas has done with that broadcast and, of course, his two fine co-hosts is just sensational.
I think he said one of the times I was on with them, it was downloaded.
Now, this was after the fact, I believe, but downloaded, I think, 20 or 30,000 unique downloads.
And so that is, I mean, you're talking about, that is a huge audience.
Anyway, I want to come back and talk a little bit more about them or hear your thoughts about them.
And we'll talk about your book.
You said there's a new translation of it?
Yes, several new translations in the works.
All right, we'll find out about that from Roger when we come back.
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Roger Devlin, everybody.
Roger, give us a little bit of your bio.
Remind the audience some of your work.
So you're getting some extended play here tonight.
And you've been, of course, a guest on the show quite a few times over the years, and you're back with us this evening.
But you were talking about your book has been translated again.
Well, it's being translated.
In fact, I've had inquiries from several countries.
Portugal, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Finland, and possibly Poland.
At least my publisher, Greg Johnson, tells me there's some interest in Poland.
That's outstanding.
So I think possibly the European, Portuguese, and Spanish versions are going to come first.
I look like I have that pretty well nailed down.
And then I hope to get the Brazilian and Germans going later this summer.
It's going worldwide.
Going worldwide, yeah.
And it all started with the article I wrote in the Occidental Quarterly 10 years ago.
Which we promote every quarter, every quarter, as it were, here on the political cesspool.
Remind the folk we're talking about the book.
Of course, I know the book.
You know the book.
Sexual Utopia and Power.
It's about the feminist attack on civilization.
It's anti-feminist, anti-sexual revolution, and it provides what I guess I could call a somewhat original analysis that differs from the standard conservative analysis of those events, but it's still consistent with a traditional monogamy.
And what I like about put it right here in the middle.
Okay, there you go.
Perfect, perfect.
And what I like about that book and your work is that that is not esoteric at all.
I mean, that is something that is affecting so many people in the West.
Feminism and the rise of this radical egalitarian movement with regards to so-called women's rights.
I mean, it's certainly not benefited women in any way.
Right.
In fact, quite the opposite.
But this is something that has become very destructive to sexual relationships and to marriages for men and women, of course.
Yes, and that your book tackles that on.
That is why our birth rates have gone through the floor in the West.
One of the very biggest reasons.
That is true.
Some people, you know, they talk as if this is a different subject from the politics, the racial politics that the rest of you talk of.
But to me, it's not.
It's the same subject.
Well, look, I mean, this is what we're talking about.
It's, you know, our people don't exist unless we replenish ourselves unless we have replacement level or above fertility.
And this is something, of course, we've taken a great interest in.
And it's something, you know, almost no white Western nations have replacement level fertility.
That's right.
I've noticed, by the way, on the same subject, a lot of couples at this conference.
That's another thing that I've been pleased to see.
Two very attractive, strapping, young, able-bodied couples.
Yeah, yeah.
And the guys are starting to bring their lady friends and their wives to American Renaissance.
A lot of very attractive young people here and young women.
Used to be a gathering of middle-aged men.
That's how Jared described it.
That's how it started out.
But now we're getting families involved.
And I've seen some little kids running around.
Of course, mine would be here too.
My daughter has a ballet recital.
They normally come with me, and I just really hate that I had to miss that, but I committed to Jared, and I never miss any.
I go to their checkups at the doctor.
I don't ever.
But it is encouraging to see the families and the young people.
And we had Nathan D'AMigo on in the first hour, and there's just a lot of young people out there doing incredibly profound work.
And that's great.
But one of these things, especially, you know, I was very lucky, and I mentioned this in my talk today, of course, finding a woman at church, finding a wife, finding someone who obviously had a healthy view on the traditional roles of the genders.
But I'm not going to say it's absolutely unusual, but the sickness of feminism has infected so many women.
And of course, that translates down to their relationships and affects men, too, and birth rates.
And that's, again, getting full circle what your book is all about, sexual power and utopia.
Exactly.
And that is why it should be replenished, yes, and reprinted and translated to the world, because this is something that is not a uniquely American problem.
This is something that afflicts our people all over the West.
Basically, the white world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And of course, that's what we're most concerned with.
Yeah.
And so anyway, talk a little bit more about you.
We've had you on for some extensive interviews about your book, but what's your overall basic thesis?
I mean, go a little bit deeper into that.
Oh, well, what I think is missing from the usual conservative critique of the sexual revolution is the woman's side.
Men, most of the criticism written of the sexual revolution is written by men.
And men understand their own sexuality, but they don't understand that of women, which is partly because it's foreign to us and partly because it's just more complex.
But women are really in charge of mating.
Women, we produce bazillions of sperm, and they produce 400 eggs in a lifetime.
And that's why, when it comes to sex, it's really women who control the show.
And so the sexual revolution is something that can't simply be blamed on men, on men preying on wide-eyed women.
You have to bring in an analysis of what you might call the female sexual revolution as embodied in Cosmo, Helen Gurley Brown, encouraging women to not to wait for marriage or to go after married men.
It's something that's very destructive because women have so much power over the relations between the sexes.
When it comes to sex, nature made us, our sex, weaker.
We're stronger in other respects, maybe, but, you know, women, yes, women are...
We don't always get to pick and choose like a good-looking young girl does.
Women.
Women may be the weaker sex when it comes to upper body strength, but when it comes to the mating game, they're pretty much in charge.
And that's why traditionally most of the emphasis on monogamy has been directed toward young women, toward our daughters.
And it's not because we're trying to be unfair and hold girls to a higher standard than guys, but it's just a practical business that, you know, nature kind of puts women in charge of it.
So their sexual education is particularly important.
And that's why I think that magazines like Cosmo and maybe the romance novel business have actually had a more harmful effect than Playboy and pornography and the kind of things that conservatives usually denounce when they're talking about these subjects.
Well, and of course what we're talking about here is that radical feminism has made it to where being a devoted wife, being a housewife, being a mother is something that's beneath the modern woman.
And so, you know, certainly, you know, you can only be empowered if you are pretending to be a man and going to work nine to five and putting your pants on.
And, you know, to take this traditional role of a mother who is the helpmate and helps is the perfect complement to the nuclear family.
That is something that was for your grandparents.
You are, this is a new age and you're a new one.
And of course, you know, ultimately the thing that comes from that is gender confusion, you know, confusion, roles are reversed.
And of course, these women are not having families.
They're not going to be afraid.
Right.
And they're wondering at the age of 35 where all the good men are, you know, when their grandmothers would have been, you know.
And they think, you know, it's interesting.
They have to think that they're happy, but deep down inside, you know, their biology has to be very unhappy and unrest.
And I think they will realize that more later on in their life, but by that point, it's too late.
That's right.
Yeah, the thing that we need to tell young women more than anything else is that the more talented you are, the smarter you are, the more important it is for you to have a family.
It's the noblest of all positions that a woman could hold.
A mother and a wife, there is nothing that a woman could do that's more important.
Right, or could want to be.
They keep saying that women can do all these things that men do just as well as men can, but what they don't say is that men can never have a child and men can never be.
Why is the sickness only seemingly afflicting our people?
I mean, I don't know if you're really seeing that.
Are you seeing it in the other cultures or a little bit of a certain amount of time?
Not as much.
I mean, yes, there is such a thing as feminism, for example, in Japan or in the Muslim world.
In the Muslim world, feminists tend not to live very long, so it's not such of a problem over there if you keep in track of what's happening over there.
It seems like some feminist gets knifed about every week or so.
Which, of course, is not something that we welcome.
No, no, it's not a good thing.
But nevertheless, I mean, that's a matter of fact.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, it does seem to play to white weaknesses somehow.
Precisely, and even within Europe, you can notice like the northern Europeans, the Germanic nations seem to be more vulnerable to feminism.
And this is what I was talking about today briefly: is that we're going to a break, but our whites, seemingly more than the other races, have this weakness to where they strive to obtain status.
Yes.
They want to be invoked through ideological convictions.
I'm going to pick up the music starter, which is why I jumped in there.
But I'm going to keep you open for one more segment, Roger, if you can spare your meal for that long, and then we'll wrap up this conversation.
We'll be right back.
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Broadcasting live tonight from American Renaissance 2016, we're tucked away in a private room adjacent to the main conference ballroom, which is having, they're having their feast right now, and I'm here working.
How about that?
Never a day off, never a vacation.
Here we are, but you just can't pass this opportunity up to broadcast live from an event like this.
And of course, our times are hard times.
It's a regularly scheduled program, and it's got to be 6-9 every Saturday night.
There's no fluctuation in that.
But it does give me the opportunity to pull in a number of incredibly interesting guests.
And, of course, we've got one right now, Roger Devlin, who's actually gotten more airtime tonight than any other two folks combined.
But we're talking about something that, and we're going to wrap it up right here, but so you can get back to your evening, Roger.
But, you know, talking about your book, which is, of course, tackles a topic that involves anyone who wants to be in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex.
And so, you know, I was saying before the break, everybody needs three things to survive.
They need food, water, and shelter.
Whites need those three things, plus status and cocktail parties.
And I said, you know, people always call us white supremacists because we don't hate ourselves or that we're proud of the way God made us.
But, you know, in many ways, and in this way, this is one example, whites are very much inferior to some of the other racial groups and ethnic groups because no other race would allow themselves to be shamed for having a sense of pride in who they are.
And whites do that in order to gain this status.
And they think that the media dictates what's fashionable and favorable and in vogue and trendy.
And in order to be like that, in order to gain that status, they have to harm themselves.
They have to adopt practices and lifestyle choices and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and to their future progeny.
And that is where, of course, radical feminism comes in.
It's just another aspect of the culture of death.
It's just another dead-end idea that leads to a lower birth rate, which would, if carried out for long enough and extreme enough, would lead to our very extinction.
That's right.
And you know what we're doing, James, really is kind of creating a counterculture, a kind of alternative status hierarchy of our own.
We're getting to be big enough that young, ambitious people are actually attracted to our movement.
And they can say, you know, just kiss goodbye to all of the mainstream and its various rewards.
Well, and what you see too, Roger, not to interrupt, but what you see too is if you've got people, capable people coming in with enough confidence in their message and they are aggressively, not overbearing, but aggressively putting forth these ideas with that confidence, then that's something that's attractive to people.
Yes, it is.
It's attracted to women.
It's attractive to men too.
Yes.
You know, everybody falls in line if you've got a charismatic leader who believes in himself and believes in these ideas and doesn't come at this from a position of weakness or apology.
Say, well, yeah, I believe these things.
And I'm sorry if it, you know, no, you come at it bravely and boldly.
And I think we have Donald Trump style.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I think we have a lot of people doing that and more people doing that now than ever before.
And the results are what you would think they would be.
More and more people are coming online.
And, you know, what's easy for us, though, is, you know, they take these lies and they aggressively put them out there.
And they've done it effectively enough to where people have bought into it.
But they are actually peddling ideas that are very harmful to people.
We're peddling, not peddling.
We are broke in common reality, and so it's a much easier sell, but you still have to have a little bit of sizzle to go along with the stake.
And so even though what we're talking about here is very much basic and common sense in many respects, you still need to present the truth in an attractive package.
And I think increasingly our movement has given birth to leaders who have been able to do that.
And of course.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And, of course, what you do, you do very well.
And you are certainly the foremost authority that we have on this issue of radical feminism and the sexual revolution.
Yeah, the adverse effects of the sexual revolution.
So again, the name of the book and how people can get it.
Sexual Utopia and Power.
It's published by Countercurrents.
You can get it on Amazon.
And the Kindle version costs $3.49.
So you really have no excuse for that.
You got that in your couch cushion, folks.
You know you do.
$3.49.
Available on Amazon?
On Amazon or Barnes ⁇ Noble, yeah.
And you can get the print version too on the websites.
For paperback, yeah.
And we've had you on at least two or three, I mean, we've had you on many, many times for different reasons, but we've had you at least a couple times to promote the book.
But now that it is being translated for all of these different countries, it was a good opportunity with you being here at Amrin to have you on again tonight.
I'm going up to New York to talk a little bit about my book a week from today.
So if you're in that area.
Can you list the venue?
I mean, is it a venue that's susceptible to shamed into articulation?
No, no, no.
If you're in the New York area, contact Countercurrents editor Greg Johnson, and he'll tell you about it.
I'd be a big audience up in New York.
We do have listeners in New York.
Political cesspool listeners on next Saturday, the 28th.
So you can Google Countercurrents for this particular event and shoot an email over to Greg Johnson and say, where will Roger be in New York?
I heard him talking about on the political cesspool.
I want to be there.
And that would do it.
Should we say something about that review I was discussing with you?
Don Wassell.
I didn't even know that Don Wassel was the one who ran the cast football site.
I was interested to learn that.
I just reviewed a book for the Occidental Quarterly by Richard Lynn and Ed Dutton called Race and Athletic Performance, which is just fascinating.
They discuss over 50 sports and break it down by race and sex and talk about who excels at it.
I called my review, White Men Can't Jump, Black Men Can't Shot Put, because it so happens that the shot put is an example of a sport that is dominated by whites.
And there are other sports that are dominated by Orientals and even Polynesians dominate rugby, apparently.
And you can find out about all of this stuff in this wonderful book.
I don't think any study anywhere near this thorough has ever been done on race and sport.
So that's the spring issue of the Occidental Quarter.
And that is the one that's currently in season, if you will, Occidental Quarterly.
I think it is available on the internet, too.
Yes, and you can get a digital download.
You can get a digital download, if nothing else.
And so, yes, so you've got a review of that topic that we were speaking with Don with, I think, earlier in the hour.
And it is an interesting topic.
Don't full of a lot of zeal, and he's right about a lot.
I mean, it's hard to make a blanket statement that this group is better in everything, every time.
But, I mean, there are certainly areas in sports and athletics that whites excel at.
There's other areas in sports and athletics that blacks excel at.
But if you listen to the mainstream media, whites are obviously inferior in all sports all the time.
Right, right, right.
And so this is an issue that you tackled in your review of a book that addressed that topic.
Sure.
It's impossible.
I don't know why it is, but sports broadcasting seems to be one of the most PC branches of the media.
I don't know particularly why that would be, but it is the case.
That's saying a lot.
Yeah.
They're very ideological in sports broadcasting, but it's impossible not to notice things like all the 100-meter dash runners being West African and all the table tennis champions being Orientals.
You know, sports fans can't help but noticing things like that.
And often there are reasons for them.
And if you do, well, and that's an interesting, yeah, you're absolutely right.
That's a very interesting observation.
But of course, we were talking about this gentleman last week on the program.
And I think even during the last commercial breakoff here, you and I made mention of it.
But, you know, when a white does break through and begin to dominate a sport that had been Afrocentric or where the champions had been black, and I'm talking to him now.
Yeah, heavyweight boxing, absolutely right.
So now you've got a guy holding the same unified heavyweight championships formerly held by people like Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis and George Foreman, Mike Tyson.
And well, this is Tyson Fury.
And he doesn't criticize it.
What's worse?
He's a Christian.
He is just a beast of a man.
He has a wife and children.
He is a family man, and he's politically incorrect, which means he tells the truth about things that you're not supposed to tell the truth about.
And he is the heavyweight champion of the world.
And, you know, nobody's talking about boxing anymore.
I mean, boxing was everywhere when it was, you know, the fight of the century, Mike Tyson and I think it was Lennox Lewis.
Yeah, the Rumble.
The Rumble in the Jungle.
I remember that.
Well, the Fight of the Century is the Fight of the Century until the next fight of the Century.
Very next fight.
But I mean, no, heavyweight boxing was all the rage in the 90s and in the early 2000s.
And, of course, Ali was a different animal, but that was something that obviously they fixated on him a lot.
But yeah, with Tyson, all of them, but not Tyson Fury.
So this is, again, a case where whites are breaking through in a sport that heavyweight boxing.
No, there were other white classes that were a little bit different.
Yeah, the silence is deafening with regards to the.
They're trying to punish this fellow, Tyson Fury.
Well, they're trying to get him kicked out of the sport for having said things about transgenderism.
He's the biggest draw in the whole sport, and they want to get rid of him.
Because he said things he was guilty of thinking bad thoughts.
He dared to think that people shouldn't go to the bathroom with a little girl.
Who's in charge of ESPN?
Keith Alexander off my, but he's saying it tells you who's in charge.
And that's exactly what you were just saying.
It tells you who's in charge of the sports media.
That's where Keith Olberman came from.
He actually kind of washed out at MSNBC because he was so extreme, and he came from football broadcasting.
Well, and from ESPN.
He was on Sports Center for so many years.
For some reason, athletic broadcasting is some of the most PC media in the world.
Well, Roger, they're playing our song, and that's the end of the second hour.
Thank you for staying on with us.
We were going to have you on for a few minutes.
You ended up staying with us for the bulk of the hour, and our audience is the better for it.