Aug. 28, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| Good afternoon rumblers. | ||
| This is Tate Brown here holding it down for Tim Poole. | ||
| This is the afternoon hour of the Rumble morning lineup. | ||
| Yeah, once again holding it down for Tim Poole should get him back Monday. | ||
| I just got that update. | ||
| So I think we'll be ready to rock. | ||
| So this is probably the last time you'll be seeing me for a while. | ||
| Knock on wood. | ||
| We can get Tim back here. | ||
| Today we're going to do a deep dive on the Minnesota shooting. | ||
| I mean, obviously it's been all over the headlines and rightfully so people aren't really interested in talking about much else because this issue really does hit at something that people have been sensing for a long time. | ||
| So yesterday on the show, obviously sorry, I'm just testing the mic here. | ||
| I think we're good. | ||
| Did I break something? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, I just tend to break stuff all the time. | ||
| These things happen. | ||
| Yesterday when I went live at noon, I mean, I was going in, I was going into the story with virtually no information. | ||
| I mean, we knew that there was a shooting and that was basically the extent of it. | ||
| So, you know, I was I had more of a non confrontational sort of disposition because I didn't know, you know, what was going on. | ||
| Same with, you know, the elected officials. | ||
| They hadn't really spoken or said much about it. | ||
| Well, 24 hours later, a lot of the things that I suspected have come to fruition. | ||
| I didn't want, you know, I didn't want to pontificate yesterday, but unfortunately, the left is evil and they can't help themselves. | ||
| So again, nothing new if you've been around, but yes, all this to say we will be doing a deep dive on the Minnesota shooting, the targeting of Catholics in Minneapolis. | ||
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| And at the half hour mark, we will be joined by Naomi Best. | ||
| She is an expert on this sorts of thing. | ||
| She's been going to war, so to speak, with the woke trans, whatever you want to call it, ideology in the therapy world and the mental health world. | ||
| She's fantastic. | ||
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| You guys are really in for a treat. | ||
| So stay around for that interview at the half hour mark. | ||
| But with that, let's get into our first story. | ||
| This is the first piece on this story. | ||
| We're going to really go into it here. | ||
| From the Postmillennial, this is the initial identification. | ||
| Annunciation school shooter identified as trans-identified male, Robert Robin Westman, quote, kill Donald Trump, written on the gun. | ||
| The suspected shooter who killed two children and injured 17 other people at a Minneapolis Catholic church on Wednesday morning has been identified as Robin Westman. | ||
| Westman. | ||
| That is the name that he larps with. | ||
| His name is Robert. | ||
| This is per reporter Carol Markowitz Markowitz. | ||
| The suspect identified as transgender and court records show that Westman's name was changed from Robert to Robin as a minor. | ||
| There's a photo of this individual. | ||
| This was from Nick Sorter. | ||
| You know, we saw this yesterday. | ||
| This is really when the information started coming out. | ||
| Once again, this was after I had gone live, so I really didn't have access to any of this. | ||
| This is from Nick Sorder, Robin Westman, previously Robert Westman, the Minneapolis Catholic school shooter was a man who identified as a woman. | ||
| Oh man, trans violence must be addressed now. | ||
| He began identifying as trans as a minor and his parents signed off on it per court records. | ||
| His name was Robert Westman until 2020 when he changed his name to Robin Westman. | ||
| And if you've been following the story, Robert would have been a minor at the time. | ||
| You can see here on this paperwork that Nick has, this is a granting name change of a minor. | ||
| And if you know anything about anything, we know that minors cannot legally do this without the oversight of a guardian. | ||
| So it should come as no surprise, his mother signed off on this. | ||
| So we'll get into that as we get into this story further. | ||
| Kirsty Nome obviously confirming that it was a transgender shooter. | ||
| It was a man, a mentally disturbed man. | ||
| And so after this occurred, after the shooter was identified, a lot of information, the manifesto, this guy published a video, all this stuff, this came out. | ||
| pretty rapidly. | ||
| This was yesterday afternoon. | ||
| We'll get into the story here. | ||
| A since deleted YouTube account under the name Robin W posted numerous videos in the hours leading up to the shooting. | ||
| In one video, the user showed off weaponry and gears and gear that had writings on it including the phrases where is your god kill donald trump and i'm the woker baby why so serious other phrases included quote burn israel and you can read that here that's just yeah really grim stuff six million was not enough that was written on the gear in the same video the user showed a target that had jesus on | ||
| it with quote he came to pay a debt he didn't owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay so just psychotic as charlie kirk said here, just psychotic, manic, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| I think already, just right off the bat, we have producer Surgeon here. | ||
| I don't know if this will make it to YouTube. | ||
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We're already, uh, we're already, uh, I think it's just the video. | |
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| I'm not sure the video, it's probably all right. | ||
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The images are everywhere. | |
| It's going to be really hard to police that on YouTube altogether. | ||
| So as long as I don't play the video, we're cool. | ||
| Just let, yeah, let me know if, if something takes off. | ||
| We're on Rumble, so Rumble obviously. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| If you want to get to the bottom of these types of stories, just do on Rumble. | ||
| We can clean up anything, I suppose. | ||
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Yeah, true. | |
| YouTube's the one that has a problem with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we'll clean up if something, if something happens. | ||
| But, um, yeah, we really, you know, there'ss a lot of, there's a lot of people that say, well, why, why, you're giving this guy what's he, what he wants by, you know, pushing or publishing or whatever, giving exposure to his stuff, his writings, his videos or whatever. | ||
| And to an extent, yeah, I do, I do feel like this is the only way to truly, uh, to, to shine an example on how deranged the LGBT movement has become, um, is by shining a spotlight on it. | ||
| Really, I genuinely think that because I don't think we're going to get to the bottom of this situation by just pretending like this, like there's no ideology attached, like there's no motive. | ||
| I think that's really important because I think that's how you can identify one of the many reasons why there's so much instability in the United States and why America's youth are so disturbed. | ||
| I think this kind of stuff is actually important to see because it kind of hits you in the face of what's going on. | ||
| Greg Price shared here, the alleged shooter of a Minneapolis Catholic church posted a deranged YouTube video before the shooting showing Jesus on a target board, as well as the weapons he used, which said things like, quote, | ||
| where is your god killed donald trump why so querious um and then this was from the the youtube video uh peter j hanson with the tweet here hasen with the tweet a youtube account under the name posted two disturbing videos this am that included threats against trump again a magazine titled i'm the woker a sketch of a church, and a picture of Christ on a paper target. | ||
| The paper target thing is especially disturbing. | ||
| I mean, I'm a devout Christian, but I think even if you're not, I think you can see the deranged derangement of someone that would do such a thing. | ||
| Specifically with this here. | ||
| It'll probably be broken down in a further article. | ||
| This was in his video. | ||
| He sketched out the Annunciation Church, the church that was attacked, and he had a knife out and he stabs the photo with the church in it, which is, you know, insane, horrifying stuff. | ||
| Another portion of the video showed a letter to family and friends, which began, I don't expect forgiveness and I don't expect any apology. | ||
| I have to hold much weight, but to my family and those close to me, I do apologize for my effects my actions will have on your life. | ||
| I was corrupted by this world and have learned to hate what life is. | ||
| Life is love, life is pain, there's too much to accept, too many things to put up with just to live. | ||
| I'm tired of the pain this world gives out, one passage read. | ||
| Another passage read, Only recently have I lost all hope and decided to perform my final action against this world. | ||
| I don't want to kneel down for the injustices of this world. | ||
| I want to die. | ||
| I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees constantly in pain, and then this was signed with his fake name Robin was not going to be on his gravestone. | ||
| with the dates 2002 through 2025 written next to it. | ||
| So obviously this is someone that is completely deranged. | ||
| Someone I talked about it yesterday and this was very accurate is the high proportion of people in the United States specifically that have nothing inside of them that are a void and an empty void, a vacuum, their soul is a vacuum. | ||
| And quite frankly, have nothing to live for, have nothing to lose. | ||
| person Robert is sort of the epitome of this right this is someone that This is just someone that really is nothing, is just nothing. | ||
| There's just a body. | ||
| And the only utterances that come out of this body are things that he read online jokes. | ||
| And that's the only way he can communicate any idea is just regurgitating an online meme. | ||
| We'll get into that a little more once we finish up here because this is this is really important piece of the puzzle as well per alpha news is Liz Collin Westman's mother once worked at Annunciation as a teacher but retired a few years ago so you see here Robert obviously but yes his mother was formerly a teacher at the school that he shot up So we have here obviously this, | ||
| this, yes, okay. | ||
| So this was from the New York Post where they get a little more into the manifesto, Minneapolis school shooter Adidas transwoman Robert Westman. | ||
| And as a parent, manifesto include, quote, kill Trump. | ||
| Obviously, that's a headline that's going to grab a lot of people. | ||
| There was a lot more written than kill Trump. | ||
| Obviously, that's horrible and demonic. | ||
| This is from the New York Post. | ||
| There's some photos and whatnot. | ||
| This is some interesting stuff here. | ||
| In one 20-minute video, Westman flips through the disturbing handwritten manifesto. | ||
| Much of it is written in a homespun code that uses Cyrillic characters and English phonetic words, which... | ||
| This is just very bizarre, bizarre stuff. | ||
| Once again, the only adjective that really springs to mind that feels accurate in this situation would be demonic, genuinely. | ||
| But demonic feels like you're selling this short because the reality is there's a lot of Robert Westmans out there. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| Robert is just the one that snapped, but we live in a society that we live in a country that's on the brink. | ||
| There's Robert Westmans everywhere, and it's just part of the horror of modern American life is that you're just waiting for one of these guys to snap. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| They are going to snap, and it's just a matter of do they take only themselves out, which occurs quite frequently or do they take other people out with them which happens again frequently I'm laughing because of the you know how insane and dramatic it is but it's true it's just people they these guys are just snapping on a daily basis because like I said they're just deranged they're just deranged I mean someone that wants to tamper with their own genitals you're already | ||
| mentally compromised right there's no there's no way around it no one that's wanting to do that to themselves is going to have any um stability whatsoever it's just not going to happen um so you know we have here um I'm sorry if I'm not in the shot. | ||
| Tim's really good at staying centered at all times. | ||
| I'm not so much. | ||
| Westman applied to change his birth. | ||
| We know this. | ||
| Here's some really weird quotes. | ||
| I don't want to dress girly all the time, but I guess sometimes I really like it. | ||
| I know I'm not a woman, but I definitely don't feel like a man. | ||
| So it's, these people, they're just, and then they're getting, they They get gaslit by society that this is fine. | ||
| This is a perfectly natural thing. | ||
| Again, I mean, I'm beating a dead horse. | ||
| here, it feels like, because it seems like the majority of Americans are on the same page with the trans stuff. | ||
| Like I don't know if it's really worth, you know, litigating why it's insane, because we all kind of know, right? | ||
| Everyone kind of knows, everyone knows what's going on. | ||
| It's just there's a vocal minority that wants to continue this experiment, presumably because they hate God. | ||
| That's the only thing that really comes to mind. | ||
| So the New York Post explains here, Mary Grace Westman worked as a secretary at the school until retiring in twenty twenty one. | ||
| This is from the manifesto quote I am feeling good about annunciation. | ||
| It seems like a good combo of easy attack form and devastating tragedy and I want to do more research. | ||
| I have concerns about finding a large enough group. | ||
| I want to avoid any parents but pre and post school drop off. | ||
| Maybe I can attack an event at the on site church. | ||
| I think attacking a large group of kids coming in from recess is my best plan. | ||
| Then from there, I can go inside and kill going for as long as I can. | ||
| So obviously beyond premeditated here, this is more of a fantasy, which is just absolutely insane that this is occurring and that we can get insight into the mind of someone like this. | ||
| There's nothing really valuable from the insight because the overwhelming majority of people cannot even conceptualize putting themselves in this guy's shoes because his brain just functionally is broken. | ||
| take a look here at some of the photos that the New York Post has collected. | ||
| Obviously, this was what I was talking about earlier where you have the sketch of the church. | ||
| The New York Post says here he then takes out a knife and stabs into the center of the sketch, his hand momentarily quivering before he withdraws the blade and quietly mumbles, quote, kill myself. | ||
| Here is part of the this is a screenshot from the video showing the contraband that he's using, and you can see here some of the scribbles. | ||
| Once again, this is just someone that is a void that is a husk of a human being, something that resembles a human being but isn't quite there. | ||
| You can see here with just some of the jokes and memes that are written on the contraband. | ||
| Where is your god? | ||
| And suck on this was written. | ||
| F everything that you stand for. | ||
| The big one with a trademark symbol next to it. | ||
| And this one, fart. | ||
| And then the n-word, which just kind of shows that this man has been buried under so many levels of irony because he really has nothing. | ||
| There's nothing going on inside of him. | ||
| is really the only really the only sort of expression that he can express. | ||
| We'll read a little more here. | ||
| In a video titled So long and thanks for all the fish, Westman slowly turns the pages of the red notebook, which is laid out on top of what appears to be schematic gun diagrams, one of them reading Rugermark IV, a type of small caliber pistol. | ||
| As he flips the pages, an occasional plume of smoke is seen from the bottom of the screen, punctuated by coughs, disjointed cursing, and maniacal giggles. | ||
| Each page is filled with inscrutable handwritten doggeral. | ||
| Wow, New York Times getting very Shakespearean here, which includes violent ramblings such as, quote, I have had thoughts about mass murder for a long time. | ||
| I am very conflicted while writing this journal. | ||
| I need to get my thoughts out there without getting on a watch list. | ||
| More and more here. | ||
| Look, you kind of get the idea. | ||
| I mean, I did promise a deep dive, but you can really only handle a certain amount. | ||
| I couldn't... | ||
| The video that's being discussed here is now everywhere. | ||
| But I've only been able to make it through... | ||
| I think it makes you quite sick, unfortunately. | ||
| It's what it does to you. | ||
| I'm not saying someone is sick for watching. | ||
| I think it makes you feel quite sick. | ||
| And again, there's nothing of value really there beyond the journalists, there's a lot of criticism of journalism, but to be fair, they've come through the video and they've put all this stuff here. | ||
| So you don't have to watch the video. | ||
| You can kind of get the idea from this. | ||
| But you see here just there's just irony. | ||
| There's just bizarre memes and jokes and irony. | ||
| None of this is genuine. | ||
| I don't think anything Robert's ever done in his life is genuine. | ||
| But you see here just jokes written all over bullets and then this was the video and then gun magazines were scrawled with for the children and quote kill Donald Trump. | ||
| So kind of to touch on the problem with the memes and the whatnot, this was put really well. | ||
| This was by a poster on Twitter, Bumbatum. | ||
| He put it really well, confirmed that Reddit and Discord are essentially breeding grounds for global trans satanist networks that create mass shooters, shut them both down. | ||
| It's very true. | ||
| these two websites have become I mean, they've become just hives of villainy, a den of jackals. | ||
| The amount of whenever you hear whenever you see a news headline begin with Reddit or Discord, the headline usually never ends without someone getting groomed or whatever. | ||
| It's just the way it is. | ||
| And it is breeding grounds for these kind of jokes. | ||
| I mean, if you know what this is, this joke, it's such, yeah, it's such a Reddit, it's such a Reddit joke. | ||
| Like it's just an eye roll. | ||
| Just very, very many layers of irony occurring here. | ||
| And then, yeah, so I mean, we can kind of get into his compatriots who there's a lot of them. | ||
| There's a lot of Robert Westmans out there. | ||
| It's just not all of them have snapped yet. | ||
| You're going to see the other Robert Westmans on full display. | ||
| This was a poster here, mister Obvious, the trans radicalization problem is worse than you could ever imagine. | ||
| I don't even think there's a radicalization. | ||
| I think by default, they're just radicalized because they're going to war with God. | ||
| It's a losing war, but they are attempting to do that. | ||
| And you see here, I'm not going to read any of these. | ||
| You can see them. | ||
| Essentially, these are just these Redditors blaming, they're celebrating the slaughter of these Christian Catholic children because they're Christian Catholic conservative presumably broadly conservative. | ||
| So you know, let me this post right here. | ||
| Am I supposed to feel bad that rich Christian kids are gone? | ||
| The trans community will not die laying down without a fight. | ||
| Future religious extremists dying isn't a bad thing. | ||
| So these people just have a chip on their shoulder and this is why I say I said it on Twitter yesterday and it did get a little bit of pushback, but I think generally, like I said, most people are kind of on the same page nowadays with this stuff is the LGBT movement broadly, | ||
| including everything, every letter I'm including in this is fundamentally anti Christian because, I mean, the Bible is very clear in its condemnation and the Christian priestly class, again, broadly speaking, is quite critical of the LGBT agenda. | ||
| So it's not really a surprise that these people just flip and celebrate the death of Christians because for them. | ||
| In Western society, the last thing standing between them and full acceptance of the trans ideology are Christians. | ||
| You can see this statistically. | ||
| Christians are the last bastion holding back this tide of anti-human, anti-social slop. | ||
| So this is what the future of society will look like if Christians sort of decline, which I don't anticipate happening anytime soon. | ||
| But this is why they're so angry because Christians are the last thing holding them back from total domination. | ||
| We have a few more stuff here. | ||
| I should have gone a little quicker, we're running a little bit low on time, so we get to the interview, but we'll get on here. | ||
| I'll blast through this stuff because you probably saw a lot of it. | ||
| Here's JD Vance, he's commenting on the left wing politicians attacking prayer, which we see here with Jen Psaki. | ||
| All they should be hoping to do is have someone to sit with at lunch or someone to play with on the playground. | ||
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And they should be waiting to hear an update when they get home. | |
| And that is not what these parents in this school experience today. | ||
| Sorry, this is a tough one. | ||
| Having your child killed while they're sitting in a pew for a morning prayer service is not what any parents should have to worry about. | ||
| And I have felt a mixture of anger and a lot of anger and emotional exhaustion about this today, as I'm sure many of you have, because we have been here so many times, so many times. | ||
| And yet, again, like clockwork, half the politicians in our country have little more to offer than thoughts and prayers. | ||
| So obviously she's blaming thoughts and prayers. | ||
| She's saying thoughts and prayers are not sufficient. | ||
| They don't do anything. | ||
| She doubles down on it here. | ||
| Prayer is not freaking enough. | ||
| Well, the problem is we do have proposals. | ||
| We have actually a very simple way to end this. | ||
| There by outlawing transgenderism at every aspect of public life. | ||
| That would end this tomorrow. | ||
| And that is our proposal. | ||
| So if you're going to reject that, then we've provided a solution for you. | ||
| That is the solution. | ||
| So yes, we have thoughts and prayers and those do go a long way. | ||
| Those work. | ||
| But don't act like we don't have the solution. | ||
| You just don't like the solution. | ||
| Your solution is to, you know, violate people's rights and strip away the Second Amendment rights from normal people. | ||
| People that aren't hopped up on hormone changing drugs and SSRIs. | ||
| They'll defend the Second Amendment rights of Robert Westman, but they'll be the first to take yours away. | ||
| No question about that. | ||
| Jacob Frey here, just lunatic. | ||
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And I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed at our trans community. | |
| So obviously the real victim of this story is not the Catholic children who were slaughtered in their pews while attending morning mass. | ||
| The victims are the trans community. | ||
| So if I get this right, because this happened in Nashville too, when the covenant, the Presbyterian school was shot up, is what happens is a trans person will kill Christians. | ||
| And the real tragedy of the situation is that the Christians have the nerve to be upset with the trans community. | ||
| And I'm using that in quotations for the hatred towards them is what the real problem is. | ||
| And as you can see here, this is just, I mean, this is what you're dealing with. | ||
| This is what the actual feeling among the trans, the hatred is really only going one way here. | ||
| We just want them out of the way. | ||
| We're tired. | ||
| We're tired of dealing with their nonsense. | ||
| I don't really believe anything the LGBT movement has to say anymore because they've lied at every step of the way since Oberge fell. | ||
| It's neither here nor there. | ||
| This is in the USA Today from Bonshee, Red State. | ||
| USA Today refused to report that the Minnesota shooter was transgender, but somehow found a way to shoehorn a claim that ICE is causing attacks on the church into their article. | ||
| This is with a quote from the USA Today. | ||
| Religious denominations are really being pushed to decide how to open these spaces, how open these spaces are going to be when you have threats of random violence or an ICE raid. | ||
| So the threats of random violence, that's just random. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| These things are just sporadic. | ||
| I don't know how these happen, but an ICE raid is very specific. | ||
| So the left, they're still, they're still stumping for their speech, for their talking points. | ||
| ICE is a more of a threat than these drugged up people with guns. | ||
| William Wolfe put it really well, really concisely, what's going on here. | ||
| It's pretty simple. | ||
| The left hates God, hates Christians, and wishes we were all dead. | ||
| Never forget this. | ||
| Once again, I can point to the proof, which is this. | ||
| reaction proof, Saki, Frey, you name it, Democrat, they've probably said something similar blaming Christians, thoughts and prayers, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| Oron McIntyre, great solution as well. | ||
| Beyond banning, Michael Knowles yesterday called for a total ban of transgenderism from the public sphere, which is excellent, great policy, another great policy from Oron McIntyre. | ||
| The Trump admin should be launching councils on anti Christian hate using the power of the government to pressure anti Christian institutions screening immigrants and deporting them for anti Christian sentiments. | ||
| It should be explicitly pro Christian. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That is the majority religion of this country and our interests. | ||
| Interests should be considered when bringing people into the country or when handling public discourse. | ||
| John Doyle really put it succinctly here. | ||
| Democrats honoring deaths of transgender Americans and a public announcement the same way a serious country would honor their fallen soldiers or something makes sense when you remember how reliable they are at harming the most hated enemy of the regime, white Christian children, absolutely. | ||
| There is one group that will never be given they'll never say stop, you know, yet stop Asian hate or Black Lives Matter. | ||
| There's one group that will never be pitied or coddled, which is white Christians., specifically white Christian children, whenever they are shot, it's just a footnote. | ||
| And it's just random violence, like the USA Today said. | ||
| Will Chamberlain put it really well here. | ||
| If you don't give trans people hormones, they'll shoot themselves. | ||
| That's a common tactic deployed by trans people or trans lovers, whatever you want to call them. | ||
| Well, he put it here. | ||
| Well, if you do give them hormones, they shoot young Christian children. | ||
| So once again, this is why I say we're just kind of tired of listening to them. | ||
| We're tired of giving them credence, tired of giving them the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| They just lie. | ||
| They lie about their intentions in every step of the direction, every step of the operation. | ||
| So yeah, I think people are fed up. | ||
| And the Trump administration now has the mandate to put an end to this garbage, to put an end to the garbage, and the Supreme Court as well. | ||
| So we have an interview, let's see if we have it set up here with Naomi Best. | ||
| I'm just going to use this to tee off real quick. | ||
| We have RFK, this was like right before I went live. | ||
| He on Fox said, I won't play the video, you can check the video out. | ||
| RFK junior, quote, we are launching studies on the potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs, some of the other psychotic drugs that might be contributing to violence. | ||
| So with that. | ||
| We're going to get into our interview with Naomi Best. | ||
| She is a whistleblower. | ||
| There's huge, huge leftist ideological capture and psychology specifically, and she is an expert on this. | ||
| So we're going to bring her in. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Hey, Naomi, how are you doing? | ||
| I'm doing well. | ||
| How are you doing? | ||
| I'm doing well. | ||
| I just want to say before we get started, I mean, a lot of people probably know who you are, but maybe you could give a quick introduction for the viewers that don't. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So I am a former marriage and family therapy student at Santa Clara University, and I wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal about the ideological coercion that I experienced in that program. | ||
| The whole field of therapy and psychology generally now has been captured by critical theory. | ||
| So, you know, you could describe that as critical social justice. | ||
| I'm sure your audience is very familiar with it. | ||
| But essentially every class, every topic we discussed was in that frame. | ||
| Yeah, when I, it really came to a head with the sexual issues. | ||
| So I was in a course called Human Sexuality and I was just very disturbed by the sexual ethic and also the notions about transgender care for youth in that class. | ||
| So when I published my Wall Street Journal article, I actually got fired from my therapy internship. | ||
| And, you know, the director of the site actually said, you know, you're really smart. | ||
| I think you'd be a great therapist, really compassionate. | ||
| But the junior therapists at that organization made, there was such an uprising against me that it was not tenable for me to work at the organization. | ||
| And I think that just goes to show how closed-minded, how narrow-minded the field has become, which is not going to bode well for people who need mental health care in this country. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, I think the one thing that seems to be preeminent above anything else as far as like the rhetoric coming specifically from the left after the shooting is there's no introspection whatsoever on how we could be handling these types of people with these types of afflictions. | ||
| There's just a doubling down every single time. | ||
| And I'm just assuming you probably saw a lot of this when you were when you were doing your work. | ||
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| I mean., when I'm thinking about the shooting, and, you know, I'm still processing all of this, it's just so disturbing. | ||
| in my program, there was a persistent anti-Christian sentiment, especially in the sexuality class. | ||
| We were asked to discuss how the Christian, they called it the Judeo-Christian ethic, the biblical reality One method they advocated for, can I swear? | ||
| I assume I can speak. | ||
| Yeah, I'm Ron Ramboya. | ||
| Was they advocated for something called gender fucking, which essentially is disrupting the binary on purpose. | ||
| So a man wearing a dress with a beard or, you know, it wasn't. | ||
| in the traditional understanding of gender dysphoria, somebody who truly believes they're the opposite sex and wants to live as the opposite sex, blend in, operate as a normal person, it was more of a social activist stance. | ||
| And unfortunately, that is how I was taught to become a therapist as well. | ||
| You know, I actually got some pushback in that class for raising questions about transgender care for youth. | ||
| I was asked to stop talking so much because, you know, I said that I wasn't comfortable providing these recommendations for children to go be put on puberty blockers or hormones. | ||
| But the message was don't be a gatekeeper because if you are a gatekeeper, you are acting from a place of privilege and you are further oppressing this disenfranchised, marginalized group. | ||
| And there is a lot of emotional manipulation that happens because when you enter a therapy program, people enter therapy programs to help, to be compassionate. | ||
| And there is now a generation of therapists who are being taught that the only way you are compassionate for these children is to affirm and that comes down from every professional organization in the field right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we covered it earlier in the show as we saw that Robert Westman changing his name to Robin. | ||
| And we saw the paperwork filed and he was a minor at the time. | ||
| So that means that his mother signed off of it. | ||
| And presumably within this transition, transgender process, there would obviously be medical professionals involved. | ||
| And I've seen some discussion, some dialogue online that Minnesota specifically is a haven for sort of these activist therapists, I guess that you're referring to. | ||
| I mean, do you have any insight specifically on Minnesota or maybe how blue states are handling um these issues yeah yeah i mean i can speak blue states more broadly i know that governor tim walls signed a a sort of safe haven um executive order for his state in 2023 um but it's broader than that it is um from so it's from the american psychological association which governs psychologists i was in school to become a | ||
| marriage and family therapist so i and the organization that um my recommendations come from is called the american association of marriage and family therapy and if you look at their guidelines, there is no room for exploration for these kids for what's going on. | ||
| In fact, that's called, they call it, oh gosh, conversion therapy. | ||
| They call it conversion therapy, which is so ironic, right? | ||
| Because this child, this, you know, youth, adolescent, whatever it may be, is transitioning to become the other gender, but saying, hey, you know, let's figure out how you can live comfortably within your biological sex is considered conversion. | ||
| And, you know, it was just so disturbing. | ||
| I'll give you one anecdote. | ||
| So in this lecture about transgender medicine in my course, it was a transgender woman who was giving the presentation. | ||
| And she was saying that therapists act as sort of guides. | ||
| act not as medical professionals, but the lecture was framed as the transgender person is sort of going on this hero's journey. | ||
| And the therapist would be a guide, but also these online communities are actively encouraged by the mental health professionals to sort of find a safe haven for these kids who may feel isolated, especially in cases where the parents aren't affirming. | ||
| They're being pushed into these echo chambers of activists. | ||
| And I am just so concerned about the way that parents are both guilted. | ||
| We've all heard the anecdote, do you want a trans daughter or a dead son? | ||
| But they're also just being excluded from the conversation. | ||
| And, you know, not preemptively telling a client's parent that their child is claiming a transgender identity. | ||
| identity is just par for the course so i'm really concerned that people who advocate for more mental health services in the face of the gun control debate don't quite understand that the mental health industry is acting or is part of the pipeline of the medicalization of transgender youth. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I mean, yeah, we're seeing as more information comes out along all the ways that we could have prevented this Robert Westman person from doing such a thing. | ||
| It seems like there was multiple stop gaps that failed. | ||
| Maybe you can elaborate more. | ||
| Is there a way to mental health our way out of this transgender issue? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You know, there are therapists who specialize. | ||
| They call themselves ROGD therapists, rapid onset gender dysphoria and anecdotally they've had a lot of success but they're sort of operating outside the bounds of the professional organizations, the professional guidance. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the incidence of comorbid mental health diagnoses for adolescents claiming a transgender ideology is just extremely high. | ||
| four times that of the rate of somebody who doesn't identify as a transgender person. | ||
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| neurodevelopmental disorders. | ||
| They need real treatment, especially I'm concerned in the case of bipolar because one of the hallmarks of a manic episode. | ||
| is this rash decision making and also feelings of spiritual awakening, like finding one's true self. | ||
| I've spoken also to detransitioners who have autism spectrum disorder and they said that their lack of social skills made them feel as though, you know, I'm not fitting in with the boys my age. | ||
| I'm not acting like them. | ||
| Perhaps I can learn how to be a girl and apply those social skills in that area. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, as it stands, I don't know. | ||
| I think that parents really need to interview any prospective therapist that they're going to bring their child to. | ||
| Gone are the days of neutral mental health professionals that you can trust with your child in a private space for an hour every week. | ||
| A therapist needs to involve the parent at every step of the treatment. | ||
| And having real open lines of communication between child, parent, and therapist is going to be crucial. | ||
| And if there's any pushback from the therapist about, you know, the importance of the confidential relationship between child and therapist, I would say, you know, that's not a deal breaker, but it is a red flag. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sort of at a loss with the field. | ||
| And it actually ended my career as a marriage and family therapist. | ||
| I was pushed out because I refused to go along with this ideology. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, let's put it this way. | ||
| If Robert Westman was in your office, I mean, what would the Christian approach be to someone with these afflictions? | ||
| Yeah, gosh, I won't pretend to know how to treat somebody with these violent urges. | ||
| I think with the transgender ideation. | ||
| um a deep understanding about the the dissociation between oneself and one's body i think that affirmative piece is really important because if somebody is saying that they're the opposite sex they're in a tremendous amount of pain and disconnection from their own body and i am a bit disturbed and disheartened hearing the discourse on the anti-transition side, | ||
| the gender critical side, because every person is made in the image of God and deserves dignity and I went into therapy because I deserve they I believe that they deserve somebody to walk with them through their pain but lying to somebody about the possibility of them actually becoming the opposite sex in my view is not compassionate whatsoever and | ||
| can lead them down a path of more confusion more dissociation from their body You know, I think it's unique for children too because adults who transition, I think they have a better understanding that you can't achieve becoming the opposite sex. | ||
| You can live life approaching something similar to the opposite sex. | ||
| I don't think many of these children who are being put on puberty blockers can conceptualize that it is an impossibility. | ||
| And, you know, so WPATH, I'll mention this just for some statistics. | ||
| WPATH is the thought leaders in this area and the psychological associations reference WPATH. | ||
| WPATH references the psychological associations. | ||
| It's an issue. | ||
| they don't even recommend any age restriction on puberty blockers. | ||
| They say you can start at Tanner stage two, which is when breast buds are first forming. | ||
| So this is around age eight. | ||
| They also recommend, okay, the child has been socially transitioned for a period before they go on puberty blockers. | ||
| So now what are we talking about? | ||
| We're talking about age seven, age six. | ||
| At Santa Clara University, where I went, the school is placing students, therapy students, at an organization, a county center, where they are doing trans affirmative therapy for children as young as five years old. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, five years old. | ||
| And, you know, at this point, it is becoming a top-down ideology that is being imposed on children. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So is the answer more therapy? | ||
| I don't think so, not as it stands now. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Well, I mean, and what you're kind of hitting on, and you did touch on it earlier with the sort of rhetorical approach from the anti-trans crowd, I do get this sense of exasperation because on the conservative side we've heard about the transgender issue for so long. | ||
| We all know that, you know, the narratives, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And I mean, for the record, I think they're accurate. | ||
| So I think we are growing. | ||
| We're getting to a point of sort of impatience on the right because, like you mentioned, it appears to be top-down. | ||
| There is a sense of helplessness because anyone that goes into the mental health field to try and rectify the situation just gets pushed out. | ||
| So there does seem to be this growing exasperation with the LGBT movement, broadly speaking. | ||
| So I mean, I'm sure you've seen a bit of that in your field, but I mean, I don't know. | ||
| It does feel like, I don't know, maybe things are getting a bit, I don't know if desperate is the right word, but we're looking for more potentially large and wide-spanning solutions for the issue. | ||
| Yeah, I think at this point, we have hit a tipping point. | ||
| in the culture. | ||
| I think that at first when the transgender issue was happening and it was such rare cases, especially with children. | ||
| And, you know, there was a feeling like, okay, we want to be compassionate towards these children. | ||
| But it's that we've run the experiment and seen the rapid explosion of this affliction in kids to the point where parents, especially, are going to start being protective of children. | ||
| So I actually am hopeful that there will be some positive change soon, pumping the brakes. | ||
| in the you know these fields and bureaucracy they move so slowly and we need more therapists more medical professionals to start speaking out against this and offering different treatment approaches which you know which there are. | ||
| There's networks of this rapid onset gender dysphoria therapists who treat these kids. | ||
| And like I said, they're having success. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, I am hopeful that this will be a short-lived experiment, but I do understand the exasperation because it has gotten so extreme and the real world consequences are so dire. | ||
| I mean, the amount of kids that this has already happened to, that we've allowed this to happen to is unacceptable and I think will go down as one of the greatest medical scandals possibly ever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, you know, these are mentally afflicted children who deserved better yeah absolutely i mean well speaking from the institutional side is there any sort of mechanisms that state governments can use to get the ball rolling in the right direction in these institutions or is this more of a we're going to have to seek more like institutional recapture from from the ground up um you know trump's executive order with the gender ideology in | ||
| federal agencies that that might push the needle one way, but I think that in these blue states, I have a sense that the federal government is sort of abandoning them to their own devices. | ||
| I mean, this clinic where they treat five-year-olds, that's the Santa Clara County Behavioral Health Department. | ||
| So that's taxpayer money. | ||
| But is Gavin Newsom going to sign a bill? | ||
| you know banning this treatment for for trans care i don't think so i think it's going to come down to the um just a sense of illegitimacy of the professional bodies before there will be real change. | ||
| The state of California licenses marriage and family therapists. | ||
| And I think that there just needs to be more awareness that this industry is not a branch of health care. | ||
| It is a rogue social project. | ||
| And there's lots of right-wing, not even right-wing, but just like right-leaning, cultural right of San Francisco folks in California who just don't know that therapists have been so ideologically captured by this. | ||
| So raising awareness is for sure going to be the first strategy. | ||
| I also think that there is an impulse to outsource your child's mental health care to a professional. | ||
| But I truly believe that your child's mental health, it has to start with you. | ||
| It has to start with getting them off screens, getting them exercise, getting them proper nutrition, getting them quality time with family. | ||
| I know this is all easy. | ||
| My child is 32. | ||
| But yeah, just sending them to a therapist, that's not going to cut it. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I mean, and that's, it needs to be reframed that way. | ||
| That there's, I mean, the amount of response. | ||
| You get this sense now where the parents, even on our side of the spectrum, so to speak, are trying to outsource their children's upbringing to something, whether it be a device, whether it be the schools, whether it even be their churches sometimes. | ||
| It's like – There's another question I want to ask you. | ||
| It's kind of back to the shooting situation. | ||
| Can you maybe expand or potentially I don't know if speculate is the correct word but maybe explain the medications that someone like this would be on that could potentially impair their thinking because a lot of people are speculating RFK actually 30 minutes before citizens get to start investigating SSRIs as a potential trigger for these sorts of things these actions I don't know as an expert I mean what what impact do these medications have on on these people Yeah, | ||
| well, we know it's very well documented that when SSRIs are prescribed to young people in particular, it can increase suicidal ideation as well as aggression that's not um debated that's on the black that's on that's on the label um so there's also been concurrently a push for general practitioners to be prescribing srs is as a first line of treatment for | ||
| anxiety and depression wow Yeah, so now you can go to a general practitioner, have, I don't know when the last time you went to a doctor is, but generally they're like 15 minute appointments. | ||
| They will, you can write a questionnaire or fill out a questionnaire and you know if you meet a certain criteria of depressive symptoms you can get walk away with a prescription. | ||
| I don't know if this person was on any psychotropic medication. | ||
| It's probably likely. | ||
| And, you know, I'm not going to draw the correlation between SSRIs and mass shootings. | ||
| A lot of people speculate on that. | ||
| I truly don't know. | ||
| But I can say that it increases suicidal ideation for adolescents. | ||
| That's, I mean, that's shocking. | ||
| I mean, it seems like we could potentially get to a point where these prescriptions will be able to be filed online. | ||
| I mean, it certainly seems like there's trending in that direction. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You can, right now, there are companies exist where you see, like, remember when, remember when you could get like a medical card for marijuana online by seeing it? | ||
| Yeah, now there's those services for these SSRI prescriptions. | ||
| You go and have a 10 minute phone appointment with somebody and say you have anxiety and get this prescription. | ||
| And a shocking percentage of women are now on these drugs, in particular women. | ||
| But yeah, for children, it just. | ||
| It just it should not be a first line treatment. | ||
| It should not. | ||
| I mean, I've spent I talked about it on the show yesterday. | ||
| When I went live yesterday, there was virtually zero information on the shooting beyond that, you know, we had a general idea of the loss of life. | ||
| And I had said that I think the biggest what you're noticing in America, you're noticing this palpable instability. | ||
| You're feeling it off of people. | ||
| You're sensing off of people a sense of instability and that people are just snapping. | ||
| And also you're sensing this deep void inside of people that they're they're searching for for something. | ||
| Personally, I think that's Christ. | ||
| And it seems like these SSRIs are able to effectively zombify them where they don't even have to think about these things. | ||
| I mean, I know that's a bit, you know, hardcore, but maybe you can expand a little bit on what these drugs specifically do to people. | ||
| Yeah, well, so they're serotonin. | ||
| reuptake inhibitors. | ||
| So essentially they allow more serotonin to float around in your brain. | ||
| That used to be, the theory used to be that there was a lack of serotonin for people who were depressed. | ||
| That turned out to be completely bunk. | ||
| So the exact mechanism is how these drugs treat depression is sort of unknown. | ||
| And there's also just very shaky evidence that they work for moderate depression. | ||
| So I think that we don't quite know what we're doing with the drugs. | ||
| And that is especially concerning for people who are underage, who are... | ||
| get on these drugs while their brain is still developing. | ||
| It is extremely difficult to get off of these drugs. | ||
| There's all sorts of quasi-withdrawal symptoms. | ||
| There's brain zaps. | ||
| So that's a feeling like your brain, it's sort of like an electro, like electrostatic in your brain. | ||
| Feelings of depression, feelings of meaninglessness, jitteriness. | ||
| It's a long-term medication and it's not meant to be something that you get off of. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, I think that, again, it's coming down to a cultural problem with such lack of meaning, like you said, maybe it's God and the SSRIs are sort of numbing that feeling of meaninglessness that's happening. | ||
| But our current culture is certainly not conducive to positive mental health. | ||
| I mean, that's just really, really grim, really grim stuff. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Well, I hate to end on that. | ||
| No, we are running out of time. | ||
| have so many questions of this kind of stuff like it's it's just it's fat and But I mean, you talk about it all the time. | ||
| Where can people find you to get more? | ||
| Yeah, you can find me on X. My handles NaomiXBest or just search NaomiBest. | ||
| And I also have a substack where I write about these things, NaomiXBest. | ||
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| Well, Naomi, thank you so much. | ||
| This was really insightful. | ||
| I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Well, that was Naomi Best. | ||
| That was really good. | ||
| that was really insightful. | ||
| I mean, you know, there's obviously a lot of... | ||
| It's nice to get someone that can break down the nitty gritty, someone that can break down the mechanisms that are at work, at play. | ||
| She's fantastic. | ||
| She was on Culture War a few, it was probably a few weeks, it was about a month and a half ago with Dr. Drew and Dr. Chloe Carmichael. | ||
| I would recommend taking a look at that where she really expands on the ideological capture within the psychology, world of psychiatry, psychology, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| It's terrifying stuff and it's not really being talked about. | ||
| It's not really being talked about enough. | ||
| So it's really a relief to see RFK, that soundbite from RFK before we went live. | ||
| live about the contribution of SSRI drugs to violence. | ||
| I think we need a deep dive on that. | ||
| We need a study on that. | ||
| That's absolutely integral to solving this issue. | ||
| But with that, I gotta end here. | ||
| We will be back tonight live on Timcast IRL at 8 p.m. | ||
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| I think he's going to be the guest host tonight. | ||
| He'll be holding it down. | ||
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| You want to be there for that. | ||
| I've been your host, Tate Brown, holding it down for Tim Poole. | ||
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| So this will be the last time you see me for a a while. | ||
| Hopefully, you know, knock on wood the last time you see me for a while. | ||
| So I really appreciate you guys watching and supporting. | ||
| I've received a lot of kind words, which really mean a lot. | ||
| It's it's been it's been wild, you know, filling in here. | ||
| It's like I've just, you know, had minimal experience beforehand, anything, camera related or presenting the news. | ||
| So it's been great to be able to share ideas and create a conversation with you guys. | ||
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