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Liberals Claim TRUMP DIED Or Is Dying And Will RESIGN Today At 2pm

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unidentified		Donald Trump is expected to give an address in just a few hours.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, the official statement we are getting from the press secretary is that this will be related to the Department of Defense.
unidentified		Trump has said he wants to call it the Ministry of War.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I always jokingly refer to it as Department of Offense because it's not defense and hasn't been for a very long time.
		Now, there are a few rumors circulating left and right about what this announcement will actually be about.
		Now, when Trump announced he was going to give this statement today, it was a few days ago he announced that today there would be this statement.
unidentified		Nobody knew what it was going to be.
		On the right, they believed this was the deployment of National Guard troops into Chicago.
		And many liberals believe this as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got a statement from the mayor of Chicago saying the people of Chicago must resist.
unidentified		J.B. Pritzker, the governor, also called for resisting.
		And let me just say, as someone who grew up literally in Chicago, there's a reason why I left.
		And I welcome many of my friends from Chicago welcome the idea of the National Guard being there because regular working class people like the troops.
		They like police.
		They like firefighters.
		They don't like violence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, on the left, what do you think is going viral?
unidentified		They believe that Donald Trump is going to announce his resignation over ailing health.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Because he took Labor Day weekend off.
		Yo, this is the craziest thing, okay?
		I know I've been out for a little while.
		I was sick.
		I was sick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It happens.
unidentified		Came back yesterday for the first time in a long time.
unidentified		Actually, tried doing a video a couple weeks ago, you know, a week or so ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it was Labor Day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, we did an event here at the Boonies, skateboarding and Labor Day weekend.
unidentified		We made a bunch of pizzas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody hung out and had a good time.
unidentified		Donald Trump didn't have any social media posts and wasn't seen in public.
		And so the left started saying that he was dying and/or dead.
		It was just Labor Day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was likely hanging out with friends and family and relaxing, taking a real vacation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, when photos emerged of Trump golfing, the left claimed that they were recycled old photos or that it showed Trump sickly and diseased.
unidentified		And thus, this disappearance, as well as a viral rumor that Walter Reed Hospital had been shut down, meant that Trump was dying, that he was ill, and was going to announce his resignation.
		It's silly.
		What I love about this is the photo they shared of Trump, who is, you know, looking sick or whatever.
		He's like pale.
		When Trump puts on a spray tan, they're like, ha ha, look, he's wearing a spray tan.
		When he doesn't, they're like, he's dying.
		Yeah, I don't know.
		I mean, look, Biden was sick.
		Trump has some kind of vain thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's an old man, and they've already announced this.
unidentified		It's possible Trump is some kind of sick, whatever, but I doubt his announcement is related to that.
		In the meantime, another viral video showing garbage bags being hucked out of the second floor of the White House has liberals screaming that they're covering up some strange, mysterious health issue with the president.
		Or it's just a video of someone throwing garbage, that they're throwing garbage out.
		You know, it's funny is garbage being thrown out the second story window doesn't mean anything one way or another.
		Were it a bag of just food garbage from a party or Trump's medical problem, they would, if they wanted to cover it up, they'd carry it out the pack.
		It's probably just garbage.
		Oh boy.
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		Let's get into the big story right now, which is the two big rumors about Donald Trump's announcement.
		Now, I know, I know, by the time many of you watch this, Trump will have already announced he's renaming the Department of Defense to the Ministry of War.
		We think that's what it's going to be based on the press secretary statements.
		But there are two stories.
		Is Trump ill and are troops being deployed to Chicago?
		But we'll start here.
		From People Magazine.
		Trump hits the golf course as son Eric Slam's death rumors.
		That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
		Rumors that Trump had died circulating.
		The president was photographed departing the White House for his Trump National Golf Course in Sterling, Virginia on Monday, September 1st.
		According to the White House press pool, he golfed for around five and a half hours before returning home.
		Trump wore a white baseball cap for the outing along with a white golf shirt and black windbreaker.
		Oh boy.
		We got this from Carol Markowitz.
		Markowitz explained to me like I'm five, people really think Donald Trump is going to resign in a press conference this afternoon?
		Indeed.
		With 137,500 posts on X titled, Trump's Oval Office Address Stirs Health and Resignation Fears.
		Oh boy.
		These people truly are wacky.
		Well, Tim Waltz is fanning the flames.
		Here's what he had to say.
		You get up in the morning and you doom scroll through things.
		And although I will say this, the last few days you woke up thinking there might be news.
		Just saying.
		Just saying.
		There will be news sometime.
		Just so you know, there will be news.
		You get up in the morning and you.
		What does that mean?
		There will be news sometime.
		He's fanning the flames because he's making a vague statement where, of course, Trump's not dying.
		I mean, maybe.
		Here's a photo they're sharing.
		Check this out.
		In this post.
		FXHedge says, Donald Trump to make televised announcement at the White House.
		He's scheduled to make an unspecified announcement on Tuesday afternoon following days of rumors about his health.
		See, here's the thing.
		These lefties put out these rumors.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then when Trump does his normal job, I mean, it was Labor Day weekend, they say, aha, this proves it.
unidentified		This is the psychotic reality that we live in.
		At 2 p.m. Eastern, right?
		It's only noon.
		And then this photo went viral.
		They said, look at him.
		What's wrong with the president?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's sick.
unidentified		He looks the same as he always does.
		He played golf for five hours.
		It's just a photo from far away.
		My favorite is, excuse me, this video, this photo comes out.
		And you notice they cropped out Trump's granddaughter, who many people on the left were saying, this is an old photograph and they can prove it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they started showing different photos of Trump wearing different clothes and they said, aha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then at least there were some liberals who are like, guys, the first photo you're claiming is from, you know, six, seven years ago shows Trump's granddaughter as a little girl.
unidentified		And the photo from today shows her as a teenager.
		Clearly, they're different photos.
		But this is the world that we live in.
		Now, Newsweek says Donald Trump's going to make a televised announcement.
		And what to know?
		Okay, well, here's what it is.
		Carolyn Levitt said the president will be making an exciting announcement related to the Department of Defense.
		Trump's been saying for a while he wants to call the Ministry of War.
		The Ministry?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say false rumors that Trump had died began circulating on social media on Friday.
unidentified		After some noted, he had not been seen in public for several days after attending a cabinet meeting on August 26th.
		He also had no public events over Labor Day weekend.
		What I love about getting sick is that I got sick and people were jokingly saying, proof of life.
		Oh no, what happened?
		I got sick.
		Here's what happened to me.
		Someone already rumble-ranted, Tim, no more three events in a row.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was basically what happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So a virus was going around.
unidentified		Everyone got a little sick.
		Normally, it's no big deal.
		Was off a couple days.
		Next day, I was like, you know what?
		I'm feeling better enough to work.
		So I popped some ibuprofen and worked and then did a live event.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then I started losing my voice, did a lot, missed work a couple days, was getting sick, kept working, and then it got so bad I ended up in the ER.
unidentified		True, I did.
unidentified		Viral pharyngitis.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Basically, my throat was swollen.
unidentified		And so they gave me some steroids.
		That lasted about a week or so.
		And then my throat was injured.
		So I couldn't do anything.
		I was feeling pretty good.
		I was walking around and doing stuff, but I couldn't talk.
		And that took me out.
		Donald Trump maybe got sick.
		You know, he had a cabinet meeting, virus is going around.
		He got the sniffles.
		I'm going to get takes him a few days in bed.
		And then they say he died.
		Take a look at this.
		Some 158,000 ex-posts, including the phrase Trump is dead, and 42,000 stating Trump died, had been made as of 7:40 Eastern time on Saturday, according to the platform's analytics.
		Some continued posting with a rumor, though engagement dropped after Trump was pictured heading to the golf course in Virginia on Saturday.
		According to the schedule issued by the White House, the presidential press pool will be in attendance during the president's announcement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say, lack of detail in the schedule prior to Levitt's statement had prompted speculation on social media, despite Trump addressing rumors about himself on Sunday night.
unidentified		Some continued to question the nature of the announcement, with some suggesting it could be related to a possible resignation.
		Never felt better in my life, Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social, in response to a post from MAGA influencer who claimed the media freaks out if he disappears for 24 hours.
		Well, I'll tell you why they freak out.
		It's because everybody's views are down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're in the offseason and it's summer.
unidentified		So everybody's seeing a traffic decline.
		This happens after every presidential cycle.
		People are burnt out, or they just, it's not so much about burnout, but the stakes aren't there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They might care about politics a little bit, but combine that with congressional recess in August and ain't much going on.
unidentified		So views take a hit, and without Donald Trump to scream about, liberals are in trouble.
		Many of you may have noticed, since I was sick over the past three weeks, Sam Cedar did not make a video about me, and his views are down 20%, and his subscribers 75%.
		You see what happens?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, the man won't stop talking about me.
unidentified		So when I get sick and I'm out of work, he has nothing to talk about.
		But you know, he probably shed a tear of joy when I returned to work.
		The same thing is true for Donald Trump on a larger scale.
		The media is freaking out, and these liberal commentators are freaking out because if Trump actually goes away for any reason, they have nothing to say.
		They have no way to generate traffic or content if Trump is missing and then they can't make money.
		So what do they do?
		They make it up.
		If Trump is on vacation or hanging with family for even a couple days, they have to go for the dear God, please help me.
		I need clicks on my YouTube videos.
		So they call him dead.
		And that is shocking enough fake news manufactured to keep those addicted to the Trump cycle watching the news about Donald Trump.
		Me, on the other hand, I launched a new channel so that if you like for the people who watch the news stuff, they can watch this channel and they can watch the news, and then I can just talk about whatever is completely unrelated to it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, what you don't want to do, be it any social media platform, is if you've got two different stuff going on in one place, then your audience is split.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, for the people who like the news, the politics, you can watch this channel.
unidentified		And then, if I want to talk about video games or anything else, I can put on a different channel so the people who like that can watch that too.
		But these people were panicking because without Trump, without their bread and butter, you're cooked.
		Now, let's talk about what's going on with his garbage bag mystery because it's going real viral.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take a look at this: the anti-Trump subreddit.
unidentified		What is actually happening right now at the White House?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a video taken by a person who spotted a White House official disposing of mysterious items at the top window of the White House.
unidentified		What is happening?
		I think Trump is gravely ill and they're covering it up.
		That's a non-sequitur.
		Let me just try this again, my friends.
		Throwing garbage away is in no way evidence of anything related to Trump's health.
		They're just throwing garbage.
		Have y'all never done that?
		I mean, I'm not saying it's the most responsible thing ever, but I've had cleanups at houses where we're on the second floor and we just will toss the garbage down to the first floor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a bag of garbage cans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, we'll have like soda cans and pizza boxes and we're on the second floor because we had a party and we'll be like, hey, we're going to bring this to the dumpster.
unidentified		And so we'll drop them out the window.
		It's not like the most common thing in the world, to be completely honest.
		Probably not the most responsible, but not all that disconcerting.
		Now, let's be real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you're in Chicago or whatever, maybe you don't want to be chucking out the window.
unidentified		But like in rural areas, yeah, we've had garbage bags and we're like, we're going to put a pile outside and it's like pizza boxes.
		So what?
		Now, how do you get from there to Trump is dead?
		Here's this.
		Totally not a body double.
		All that golf made him lose weight.
		Trump notably lost weight in the past several months that people were talking about it.
		Okay.
		Trump is dead, trending on X.
		And it says, where's Peto?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's Trump as Waldo.
unidentified		False report.
		Trump pictured heading to play golf.
		Thank God.
		Now they're going to claim it's fake.
		Thanks for ruining hundreds of millions of people's day.
		Heard that was old footage.
		Look at that first comment.
		Thanks for ruining hundreds of millions of people's day.
		They want him to be dead.
		That's crazy.
		That's weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what's going on with his garbage?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the video.
unidentified		I don't know why there's music.
		Then another one.
		Let's see it.
		Right now, yep, there goes a garbage bag.
		What am I supposed to say about that?
		They're throwing garbage bags out a window.
		The worst thing I can say is probably not the most responsible thing, depending on the garbage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll say it again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, for most of you, if it's pizza boxes, maybe it's a bunch of McDonald's wrappers and Taco Bell or something.
unidentified		And it's just like, it's not going to break open.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just food waste.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they threw it out the window.
unidentified		Maybe don't do that, I guess.
		Anyway, is there news today?
		The Day in the Mail says a mysterious video showing an object being thrown at the upper level window of the West is going viral.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The video, in fact, is not mysterious in any way.
unidentified		It's actually fairly normal social media video.
		The object isn't mysterious either.
		It's a garbage bag.
		The clip circulating online did not have any context.
		The White House confirmed the Daily Mail the video was indeed recent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		An official said the object was thrown up by a contractor who was doing regular maintenance while the president was gone.
unidentified		The president was out of the West.
unidentified		Plus, they're doing the renovations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Trump's golfing and some guys throwing away some, like, you know what?
unidentified		It's probably like boxes from the hardware store, you know, like just product boxes.
		Unverified rumors circulate surrounding President Donald Trump.
		Oh, heavens me, dude.
		Heavens me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What Donald Trump photos show amid health speculation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's this photo.
unidentified		Images of Trump.
		They say Trump is 79.
		By the end of his term, will be the oldest U.S. president in history.
		Meaning that even a short absence from public duties will be scrutinized.
		It's understandable given the questions by his questions his predecessor, Joe Biden, faced about his fitness.
		You know, I think that's fair.
		A reasonable, normal question about Donald Trump's health, I think, is totally fine.
		The dude is 79 years old.
		I just think it's silly to be like he's dead, especially when he's going golfing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guys, three days, he's going golfing.
		The left wants him to be dead.
		That's the crazy and creepy and disgusting thing.
unidentified		They want to say a TikTok from progressive commentator Harry Sisson discussing and dismissing the rumor racked up nearly 2 million views.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On Saturday, rumors of Trump's demise were shown to be exaggerated, as he was seen before heading to play golf.
unidentified		Yes, but I'll stress this again.
		They claimed this was an old photo.
		We even just have it right here, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone says, I heard that was old footage.
unidentified		I did as well.
		What is wrong with these people?
		You know, I want to believe that it's fake.
		They're bots.
		They're not real people.
		But they are.
		Saturday's golf outing was debunked yesterday.
		Trump did not go golfing yesterday.
		Full stop.
		No, verified Viagetti images last two days on the golf course were taken in June.
		Verified ambulance in motorcade speeding to Walter Reed Friday morning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hashtag deaddon is trending worldwide.
unidentified		So these posts started to pop up.
		Actually, I did have them.
		Let me see if I can grab those.
		People were claiming that Walter Reed, I think I have this post, that the roads around Walter Reed had been shut down.
		They weren't.
		It's a lie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are making things up and posting fake photos, and they're literally just showing off traffic.
unidentified		Let me see if I can find this one.
		WalterReedRoadsx.com.
		We'll pull that out.
		Why are the roads around Walter Reed closed?
		Is this the right one?
		So this is from yesterday night.
		Let's pull it in, baby.
		So this guy says he's the main wonk with 87,000 followers.
		He says, why are the roads around Walter Reed closed?
		And he posts this image.
		And it shows, indeed, road closures.
		Looks like Apple Maps.
		Actually, Rockville Pike is open, and it looks like there's congestion.
		Maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have a community note.
unidentified		Walter Reed is located within the Naval Support Activity Bethesda Military Installation, and there is no public access on Wood Road.
		The base's visitor control center lists the requirements to enter.
		The alerts page shows no related closures.
		You are just spending all your time trying to find some breaking news.
		And even if you do, no one will remember who you are, blah, blah, blah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at these responses.
unidentified		Doesn't even look like him.
		Neck is way fatter than usual.
		Reverse image search search dates those pics back to July.
		Bad news for the USA.
		Trump is alive.
		I mean, what could be better on this lovely holiday weekend?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
unidentified		Newsweek has all the stories basically pointing this out.
		Donald Trump photographed on Labor Day amid baseless rumors.
		Indeed.
		Baseless rumors.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's this one?
		Donald Trump responds to viral health rumors.
		Oh boy.
unidentified		He said, never felt better in my life.
		The president wrote in a truth social post.
		Indeed.
		Well, my friends, I think I have this story that we can talk about related to it.
		Here's what I think is the most disconcerting about all of it.
		Woman charged with threatening to kill Trump, released by Judge Boesberg.
		Yeah.
		These people that are going online and saying Trump must be dead or dying, it's because they want him to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I ask you this for your comments to comment.
unidentified		Where are we as a nation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's funny.
unidentified		I was sick when Trump announced that they may deploy the National Guard into 19 cities, of which Chicago is a big target.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was out.
unidentified		But I will say this: it's fascinating to me that, you know, when I speculate or make predictions, they're usually very weak.
unidentified		Rarely do I come out and say things like, the lottery numbers will be 7, 13, 51.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I usually say things like, wow, look at this news story where X thing happened.
unidentified		If this thing happened, it's possible that we're going to see this other thing happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If they don't happen soon enough, the left says I get all my predictions wrong.
unidentified		How about that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And sometimes I'm wrong.
unidentified		But what did I say?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said this a couple years ago or a year and a half ago.
unidentified		Now, is it two years now?
unidentified		If Donald Trump gets elected, one of the big catalysts for an escalation into civil strife, potential civil war, whatever it may be, is that Trump dispatches National Guard into jurisdictions that resist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the possibility is that National Guard must choose between their home and their government.
unidentified		And that's a tough choice to make.
		What are we seeing now?
		Well, there's a big rumor among the left and the right that Trump may be announcing today at 2 p.m. that he will be deploying the National Guard into Chicago because of the crime.
		And oh boy, is there crime?
		Now, I don't know what's going to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm wrong about everything.
unidentified		But I ask you this.
		This woman that was released, she was threatening to end Trump's life in very specific ways.
		And Boesberg says, yeah, boy, you know what?
		She can't do it.
		Huh?
		Remember that fat guy?
		That big fat guy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was an elderly, obese man who couldn't walk without assistance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the DOJ under Biden raided his house and they killed him because he had made threats against Joe Biden.
unidentified		Let me pull this one up and show you the contrast.
		I think it was a threat against Utah man, 2023.
		Let's compare and contrast.
		Utah man suspected of threatening Joe Biden, shot and killed as FBI served warrant.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		First, I don't care if it's Biden.
unidentified		I don't care if it's Trump, Obama, Kamala, if she ever went, I don't care.
unidentified		Don't threaten the president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We don't play those games.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't play those games.
unidentified		This guy should not have been doing that.
		Here's the story: an armed Utah man accused of making violent threats against Biden was shot and killed by FBI agents.
		Special agents were trying to serve a warrant on the home of Craig DeLou Robertson.
		He was armed at the time.
		Now, okay, okay.
		He's 74, walked with the aid of a hand-carved stick, likely had no real capability to carry out any of his threats.
		But here's the difference: they were serving a warrant for his arrest, and he was armed and wouldn't back down.
		At least that's what is reported.
		This woman actually got arrested.
		She didn't fight the cop.
		So it is different.
		But let me just stress still the differences.
		Neither of these people presumably could carry out the threats.
		That's what's being reported.
		This lady certainly had better chances at doing it than the old man.
		And they went to his house armed and shot and killed him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was there not a better way to handle this?
unidentified		This lady's being released.
		She's being released.
		She says she was going to get a bladed weapon, you know, and then described in great detail what she would do.
		And this is what you end up with in this country.
		She gets arrested and she gets released.
		But under Joe Biden, they come to your house armed and shoot and kill you because you're a threat.
		To be fair, the man was armed.
		I get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
unidentified		It's not one for one.
		He shouldn't have.
		I'm just saying.
		A guy in the middle of nowhere who can't do all that much, there's other ways to handle this stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this is where we're currently at.
unidentified		You also had another story where a woman tried running over a Border Patrol agent.
		This, of course, following like the Ziz cult and all of this crazy violence that's been going on.
		My friends, I ask you where we are as a country when you have this degree of political, I don't know, psychopathy.
		They want Trump dead.
		There have been attempts on Trump's life.
		They routinely threaten Trump's life.
		Several people have been arrested for threatening Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they go online onto these forums and they say he must be, he must be dead.
unidentified		What is this?
unidentified		I hope it's true, they say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, you've got to put people like that on a watch list, don't you?
unidentified		And I'm not a big fan of that, but I'm like, when someone says they hope for death to the president, yeah, I think it's reasonable to say we're going to keep an eye on you.
		I'm not saying illegally search or seize or arrest or anything like that.
		Don't violate their Fourth Amendment rights.
		But just, you know, make a mental note.
		This person said this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
unidentified		Maybe he'll get his Noble Rest in Peace Prize.
		This is crazy.
		Attention is he takes a day off for medical treatments and everyone notices.
		One thing that people have been talking about is that Donald Trump has had these blood marks on his hand and they believe it's from IV treatment.
		I'm going to say it like this.
		Trump ain't getting no special treatment from me.
		He's an old man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If he's sick, we should know about it.
unidentified		They came out and talked about he's got a vein issue, chronic vein something or other.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I forgot what it was called.
unidentified		And I said, okay.
		And they said it's a common condition in elderly patients, and Trump is 79.
		I think this is serious, right?
		I don't mean serious in that he's sick or he's going to die.
		I'm saying it is a serious matter if the president is ill and we want him to be better.
		That includes Joe Biden.
		Unfortunately for these far-left lunatics, Trump is going to give me a statement and doesn't appear to be dead.
		So my bigger concern is where we go as this bifurcation only gets worse.
		But the other rumor, my friends, Chicago, the troops.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be joined by Larry Elder in a moment to discuss the issue of crime, the National Guard.
unidentified		I'm going to talk about flag burning and a bunch of these issues that I missed.
		He's a smart guy.
		So smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That will be coming up at 4 p.m. at youtube.com slash Timcast and rumble.com slash Tim Poole.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Again, 4 p.m.
unidentified		For everybody else watching this pre-record, thanks for hanging out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Stay tuned.
unidentified		More segments to come, and we'll see you all in the next segment.
unidentified		For those of you that are watching live still, here's the story we got from MediaITE.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Scarborough calls on J.B. Pritzker to seek Trump's help to stop Chicago crime.
unidentified		Well, you've lost MS now, MSNBC, I guess.
unidentified		But this is the rumor that's been circulating, that Donald Trump will be deploying the National Guard into Chicago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And as someone who spent 23 years, I left formally when I was 23.
unidentified		That's when I really moved out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've been back periodically since.
unidentified		Someone who spent 23 years of his life growing up in this city, literally in the city.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And oh boy, do these lefties really just lie to try and win brownie points.
unidentified		I say, please, please, Donald Trump, fix my city.
		You know, what's funny is what these liberals have been doing.
		They say Tim Poole's not from Chicago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's from several hours outside of the city.
unidentified		This is, these people are evil.
		It is absolutely wild.
		Let me just tell you.
		I grew up near Archer and Cicero.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the city's southwest side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a really working class area.
unidentified		A lot of firefighters and police because it's cheap.
		And you have to live in the city if you're going to work for the city.
		In this area, there is gang violence.
		We had an area that was pretty bad I will leave unnamed where gangs, largely groups of young black males were the gangs, although we had Latin kings and otherwise.
		Vice Lords, 2-6, four-corner hustlers, the popes, the disciples, a lot of Catholic gangs, I guess.
		Anyway, yeah, a lot of violence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I had friends who had witnessed corpses being dragged to the street.
unidentified		I myself had been shot at randomly for no reason.
		Me and my brother driving in our car and someone just fired at us.
		The high school in my area, I went there for about two months.
		A fight broke out and one of the guys brought a gun.
		These are common occurrences.
		That's Chicago.
		And because I can say that and say that's how I grew up and we shouldn't live this way, what does the left do?
		They start lying and spreading rumors saying Tim actually isn't from the city, which is wild because my friends from the city work here.
		And like I go and hang out in my old neighborhood sometimes like for the holidays.
		But that's what they have to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That way when they go to these political debates, they tell liberals, don't listen to Tim Poole.
unidentified		He didn't actually grow up in the city like we did to try and discredit what I have to say.
		But I have a lot to say.
		So my friends, we're going to be joined by, I believe you got Larry Elder in wait.
		Let's bring him in and have this conversation with him.
		I also want to talk about the flag burning stuff and the potential rumors that Trump will be dispatching the National Guard, not just in Chicago, but other places.
		So we'll boot this up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
unidentified		Sounds like it's working.
unidentified		Let's make sure it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And bring in Larry Elder.
unidentified		I've been gone for a few weeks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Larry, can you hear me?
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		Hear you fine.
unidentified		Excellent.
		Thanks for joining me.
		Let me try and adjust the levels a little bit here and bring in.
		How you doing, man?
		Good to hear from you.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing great.
unidentified		Thank you for asking me.
		I appreciate it.
		Absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		I've been out for a few weeks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot that I want to talk to you about.
unidentified		But the big rumor right now, I don't think it's true, but there is something to talk about.
		Donald Trump will be deploying National Guard to Chicago is the rumor.
		And they say that he's going to make that announcement in an hour or so.
		I don't think that's the case.
		Carolyn Levitt said that it's related to the Department of Defense.
		But in the past couple of weeks, there's been discussion about Donald Trump sending National Guard troops to 19 different cities, Chicago being the most notable.
		Curious your thoughts.
		Is this fascism, authoritarian overreach?
		It's called trying to do something about urban crime that nobody seems to care about.
		I hope it's true.
		I hope he deploys troops in places like Chicago.
		And, by the way, while Chicago has the the honor of being the high, the murder capital of the world, of the city, of the country, in terms of absolute number of murders uh, it is not even close in terms of per capita.
		Uh, St Louis is worse, Baltimore is worse yeah uh, Washington Dc is worse and Birmingham is worse.
		And let me just say something quickly tim, about Birmingham, right now, as we speak, there's a man named Damian Mcdaniel on trial for allegedly killing 18 people.
		He happened to be black, as are virtually every single one of his alleged victims.
		Nobody, but nobody, is talking about it.
		He's on trial as we speak.
		It's a big deal locally but nationwide nobody cares.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		And the answer is, nobody gives a rip about black, on black crime.
unidentified		If this guy gets invicted, he will be the deadliest mass killer in the history of of Birmingham.
		He did it over a period of two years.
		Nobody knows his name because the media could not give a rip.
		Right now Chicago, Labor Day weekend, over 50 people shot, I think about seven people killed.
		Nobody gives a rip.
		Donald Trump cares, but Donald Trump allegedly hates black people.
		I thought black lives matter.
		I guess black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		They're taken by other black people.
unidentified		Nobody cares.
		Yeah, we saw this uh Gallup poll a few years ago that stated, in the black communities, these actual neighborhoods they were, it was like 80 said, please give us more cops.
		This was during the the defund, the police uh cycle, or whatever you want to call it.
		And i'm from Chicago.
		I left for a variety of reasons, one of which largely, is the crime and the corruption.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So when I hear that Trump wants on the National Guard, I can tell you right away like my friends, my family would be like awesome, maybe we don't have to worry about all of these murders.
unidentified		But you know, you know what's fascinating?
		You bring up no one.
		No one cares about black on black crime.
		It's been a trope, it's been a joke and Sitcock, you know Family Guy made fun of it I.
		I was uh doing some research on this and I used everyone's favorite chat Gpt, and asked it because we had this other mass shooting at the Catholic school and it told me that white men are the biggest perpetrators of mass shootings.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I asked it about Chicago Baltimore, St Louis and Dc.
unidentified		And it's fascinating to see how google, these AI platforms they omit the the black on black mass shootings that happen all too often.
		That are the majority of your general mass shooting, that is, four or more individuals.
		Right, and then they blame white people for it.
		I'm like, hold on, how are we going to solve the problem of mass shootings that that the liberals claim they want to solve?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we want to solve too, when they ignore the the majority of it and claim it doesn't happen at all?
unidentified		Yeah, you remember the UH DC sniper, those two people that were mowing down people a few years ago in Washington Dc.
		Turns out they had been stopped several times by the cops, but some FBI profilers said that the likely uh perp will be a white male, so they were let go.
		The fact is that whites are around 60 of the population, but they commit roughly 50 of the mass shootings.
		Blacks are about 14 of the population, but they commit about 17 18 of the mass shootings.
		So, in terms of population, whites are underrepresented when comes to mass killings.
		Blacks are overrepresented, by the way, as are Asians.
		So it's just not true.
		Fact is that 60% of the burglaries, the robberies, and the shootings in America are committed by black people, often against other black people, which brings us to the reason why, Tim.
		The reason why is the epidemic of fatherlessness.
		Even Barack Obama once said, if you're raised without a father, you're five times more likely to be poor and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school, and 20 times more likely to end up in jail.
		Fact is, 70% of black kids today enter the world without a father in the home married to the mother.
		It is a massive, massive problem that neither Republicans nor Democrats are talking much about.
		Why is it?
		I mean, I've heard a lot of the talking points, you know, the expansion of the welfare system and things like that.
		And I'm curious your thoughts on why it is that there's so many fatherless young black men.
		It's the welfare state.
		You look back in 1965, 25% of blacks entered the world without a father in the home married to the mother.
		That number now has almost tripled.
		If you look at the welfare state, the so-called war on poverty launched by Lyndon Johnson, and look at the amount of money that's spent and the increase of fatherless homes, they almost paralleled each other.
		What they've done is incentivize women to marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.
		The out-of-wedlock birth rate in the white community has also tripled since 1965.
		So it's not just affecting blacks, it's affecting everybody.
		And what we need to do is rethink the welfare state, but that's an unpleasant conversation.
		The left doesn't want to do it because they created the problem.
		And Republicans often don't want to do it because they fear that they'll be accused of racism or somehow demeaning single women who are heroically raising these boys and girls by themselves.
		You know, it's funny.
		It's controversial, but Kanye West, the arc that he went on, there were a few points he had made early on before he kind of went, he's kind of gone off in a very bad direction.
		I'll put it like that.
		But absolutely.
		But here's the thing.
		He made a few points early on.
		One was he had tweeted something like, abolish the 13th Amendment or we need to abolish it.
		And the media lied about his intention.
		His point was the 13th Amendment says in it, slavery is acceptable if someone's been duly convicted of any crime.
		And he was talking about the high rates of incarceration of black people in this country, and the media lied about it.
		But aside from that point, back to the crime and the issues here and fatherlessness.
		He had made a point that these record labels were promoting gang culture and violent culture to young black men through pop music, as well as degeneracy and sexual deviancy.
		He had several years ago, it's maybe like 10 years ago, he was doing these Christian Sunday services.
		He called it, he was trying to get people to be more involved in religion and things like this.
		Unfortunately for Ye and for people around him, he misunderstood why this was happening and where it was going.
		And he blamed the Jews for why there was this culture happening.
		But I bring this up because there is an interesting point in there is a pop culture that targets young black men and women with songs and rap about being violent, being in gangs, stealing and things like this.
		Do you think that that culture plays a role in telling these young men who to be?
		I really don't.
		Most of this stuff, this gang stuff, this rap stuff, is purchased by and enjoyed by white kids in the suburbs.
		They're not even the kind of crime that I'm talking about.
		The breakdown in the family is what's going on.
		A mother and a father shields you from this kind of nonsense, tells you what your values are.
		So you're not going to be infected by somebody rapping something stupid like some of these rap people do.
		Look, even Tupac Chachur once said, I know for a fact, had I had a father, I would have been more disciplined.
		I would have been more confident.
		Denzel Washington has also talked about this.
		He talked about how he grew up in Mount Vernon.
		And while his parents were divorced, he had a father who was actively involved in his life.
		His friends did not.
		And he has friends who are right now in prison.
		So, you know, you're finding people really talking about the truth, but the media and the Democrats do not want to because they want black people to be perceived as victims in need of social justice.
		And by the way, we wear the white hat in the fight for your social justice.
		So go in there and pull that lever for us.
		Vote for us.
		That's why they do it.
		That's an interesting point you make.
		I didn't know that about young, it was young suburbanite, white people buying this gang culture, rap music stuff.
		Yeah, most of the rap music is purchased by white people.
	But these rappers could not get wealthy if it weren't for white kids in the suburbs buying all this stuff.
	They're the ones that love this.
	You know why it's easy to believe?
	So when Brandon Johnson got elected in Chicago, everyone was talking about how this socialist mayor won.
	And I looked at the electoral map of Chicago.
	And unsurprisingly, it was all by race.
	The white areas voted for the white guy.
	The Latino areas voted for the Latino guy.
	And the black neighborhoods voted for the black guy.
	But there were numerous candidates.
	So I'll clarify.
	White areas voted for a white candidate, Latino for a Latino candidate, black areas.
	The top three candidates in the black neighborhoods were all black, even if they weren't the frontrunners, which is interesting.
	Now, Brandon Johnson wasn't the frontrunner among the black community in Chicago.
	There was one neighborhood that got Brandon Johnson over the edge to win, and that was the university, the Loyola University area, where young white socialists voted for Brandon Johnson, giving him the edge and getting him elected.
	In fact, it is these white, uppity suburbanites that voted for the socialist candidate who now, I don't know if you saw the video, is saying they should fight back against Trump if he deploys National Guard.
	Yeah.
	Let me say something about that.
	A state senator from Illinois named Barack Obama challenged an incumbent Democrat named Bobby Rush, a former Black Panther for Congress.
	And Obama got his clock cleaned.
	It turned out that urban blacks, poor blacks, did not vote for him, voted for the other guy.
	Jews voted for him.
	Wealthy people voted for him.
	So Obama went back and redesigned his state Senate district.
	There's an article about this in ProPublica called Obama's Gerrymander about how he redesigned his district to make it less black, more affluent, more white, more Jewish, because that's where his supporters were.
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I mean, that's what we see.
	It's the, what do they call it? Affluent white female liberals leading the charge for a lot of these leftist policies and socialist policies.
	And that's what you end up with.
	And that, Tim, is why Obama has done so well, Obama.
	Trump has done so well with blacks.
	About 20% of black males voted for him this time, because they're seeing this.
	The number one group most hurt by illegal immigration are black people with high school or less living in the inner city because they have to compete against illegal aliens for jobs.
	And the presence of illegal alien labor puts downward pressure to the tune of almost $1,800 a year on the salaries.
	This was before Joe Biden allowed in 10, 15, 20 million, however many it was over the last four years.
	So blacks are the most hurt by this.
	Black people living in the inner city are getting a very poor education.
	There are 13 government schools in Chicago where 0% of the kids can do math and can read at grade level.
	There are over 50 in Illinois altogether where 0% of the kids can do math or can read at grade level.
	So they're the ones that are most hurt by the failure to have school choice, which Democrats do not want because the number one funder typically is the teachers union.
	So the people that are most hurt by Democrat policies are the very black people that have traditionally gone in there like Lemmings and pulled the lever for the Democrat Party.
	Do you think if we got rid of this welfare system, it would end this?
	Or is there some kind of transition period where you'd need some kind of hybrid or system of something?
	Yeah, you can't just cut people off right away.
	But look, at one time, things like this were handled by nonprofits, by churches, by people donating.
	And when government stepped in, people began donating less.
	During the Great Depression, donations shot up substantially.
	But then when FDR did his New Deal, donations still went up, but not quite as sharply because people felt that they gave it the office.
	There's no reason to believe that if we didn't have a welfare state by government, Americans would allow other Americans to die and suffer.
	We wouldn't do that.
	We're the most compassionate people on the face of the earth.
	We give more money than any other nation.
	So that's what we would do if we didn't have the welfare state.
	But by having no questions asked welfare, what you're doing is simply making things worse.
	There was a poll back in 1986, LA Times 10, where people on welfare were asked, is welfare a stepping stone towards self-dependency or is it a crutch that makes you dependent?
	More of them said crutch than they said a stepping stone towards independence.
	So these are people on welfare telling you it's a trap.
	Well, now I think, you know, what's going on with SNAP?
	I think Trump, the Trump administration has enacted some kind of policy.
	You got to have community service.
	A bunch of videos started popping up where you can't buy cookies and candies anymore.
	And there's videos of women trying to buy snack cakes and their EBT and things are getting rejected.
	So it looks like the Trump admin, you know, it's happening.
	The culture is kind of waking up this.
	But I do want to add too.
	Can we just say in 1996, Bill Clinton changed welfare as we know it.
	He ran in 1992, promising to do that, didn't do it.
	But his advisors told him, if you don't do something, you're not going to get re-elected in 1996.
	So he, for the first time, put time limits on welfare and what were called children caps.
	If you had additional children, you didn't get additional money, which was the case in the past.
	Welfare roles declined by 50%, a far steeper decline than anybody predicted.
	And there wasn't a corresponding increase in abortion.
	A bunch of able-bodied people and able-minded people got off the couch and went to work because they had to.
	And little by little, we've loosened those restrictions.
	And what Donald Trump is doing is trying to put them back.
	So if you're on Medicaid and you're able-bodied, you don't have children, there's a certain amount of hours per week you have to work in order for you to continue getting benefits.
	This is a good thing.
	You mentioned donations and the church and things like that as well.
	I think another huge component that extends beyond the black community, this country as a whole, is the loss of religion.
	And I say this to somebody, I'm not a Christian.
	I do believe in God.
	I don't know what I am, but there's a word for it somewhere.
	And people, you know, I'll have atheists question me and say, how would you defend that or whatever?
	I say, listen, the issue that I'm bringing up is not about whether or not someone has faith in Jesus Christ, although I know that Christians believe that to be the most important thing or one of the most important things.
	I'm not going to speak for Christians.
	The issue is community, that we would come together once a week and sit down with each other in the same space.
	The church was the charitable arm to protect the community when it could.
	And we had trust and faith in each other as well.
	But now nobody congregates and nobody meets.
	And so you have across the board in this country, police officers that say, listen, I don't know you, just go to court.
	You've got criminals who say, if I steal from you, nothing bad will happen to me because I don't know you.
	And this is the problem we're experiencing where people are not concerned with wronging their neighbor because there will be no social repercussions.
	You know, Tim, this has been studied.
	There's a book called Who Really Cares written by a guy named Arthur Brooks.
	Arthur Brooks was a professor of public policy at Syracuse.
	He wasn't particularly conservative or liberal, but he found out that nobody ever did a study to find out whether or not conservatives were more generous with their time, with their money versus liberals.
	He assumed the answer was going to be liberals.
	So he did a whole study, got the conclusions, got rid of all the people that did the conclusions because they didn't believe it, hired another people.
	They came with the same conclusions.
	It turns out conservatives were far more generous with their money and their time than liberals.
	And it turned out for two reasons.
	The first is that conservatives believe that help for people should be done people to people, not government to people.
	But the second factor, a more important factor, is conservatives were more likely to be religious than liberals.
	Religious people give way more money, way more time than do non-religious people.
	Religious liberals gave the same amount of money as religious conservatives.
	There were just far fewer of them.
	So it turns out that if you're more religious, you're more compassionate, you're more caring, you give more time, you give more money to people.
	For that reason alone, religion is positive.
	I think it's fascinating to think.
	I want to approach this completely, just objectively.
	Would Chicago rather have gang culture or Christianity?
	You know, the neighborhoods that I grew up on, I just tell you, it's very simple.
	I grew up in the southwest side of Chicago, and there were areas that we had a street, 47th Street.
	Just north of it, everyone was black.
	South of it, it was largely like white working class with some Latino.
	And that division, whether intentional or otherwise, created two separate communities where people distrusted each other.
	There were a lot of gangs.
	If someone came to me and said, this is a liberal Chicago, a lot of atheists, we want Christian missionaries to go into this and start, I'd say, oh, thank you.
	Thank heavens.
	I would much rather have Christian culture.
	And it's a no-brainer, but it's fascinating because there are many atheists, liberals who spend their days blaming religion for everything, blaming Christianity for everything, saying that Christianity is bad and that these values should be removed from government.
	And I'm just wondering, have you ever been to a church?
	I mean, look, you might not like what they believe or whatever, but I'd much rather have a bunch of people singing songs, clapping, and being bigoted, whatever the liberals think about it.
	Oh, they have bad views, than gangs shooting at each other.
	Well, of course, Tim.
	And a few years ago, as you know, I did a documentary called Uncle Tom, where I talked about how the black community continued to grow after slavery, even though there was Jim Crow, even though there was a KKK.
	In 1940, 87% of blacks lived under the poverty level.
	20 years later, 1960, that number had fallen to 47%, a 40-point drop in 20 years.
	The greatest 20-year period of economic growth in the history of Black America.
	Why?
	Because it was rare for a black kid to be brought into the world without a father in the home married to the mother, a strong belief in entrepreneurship, a strong belief in American values, even if those values were not being applied fairly to black people.
	And more importantly, a strong belief in Judeo-Christian values.
	Most black people went to church.
	That is completely broken down, again, as a function of the breakdown of the nuclear intact family.
	Less likely to be going to church, mom and dad less likely to take you, and therefore the kids are less likely to be religious and less likely to learn the kinds of values that religion can put into your brain, make you behave responsibly.
	Yeah, we had a show a few years ago with Seamus Coughlin.
	He's the Freedom Tunes guy.
	He's a devout Catholic.
	And we talked about the Ten Commandments as an objective path towards successful life.
	Now, you know, I grew up Catholic briefly, and I believe, you know, being heavily influenced in Chicago by just general liberal atheism.
	Had my atheist angsty teen years.
	I don't consider myself Christian today.
	But I think if you look at the Ten Commandments objectively, it's a great path towards a functioning society and a good life.
	Honor your parents.
	Don't steal.
	Don't kill.
	These things, if they are taught to children and upheld by their elders and those who inspire and motivate, will bring you to a more successful culture than having no father, being told that all that matters is getting yours.
	And that's what I saw when I grew up.
	The kids in my neighborhood who joined gangs were told, no one's going to help you.
	No one's there for you.
	And you got to be hard.
	So you got to take what's yours or else.
	And these gangs would go to these kids and they'd say, They'd give them guns and say, go kill our enemies.
	Don't worry.
	You'll only go to jail till you're 18.
	That's the message they were being given instead of honor your parents, do not steal, do not kill.
	I would prefer that.
	I prefer these kids were told by a mentor, it's better to have faith and follow these.
	Even if you don't believe these tenets will give you a better life.
	We're losing that.
	And it's fascinating that I've discussed with many people who, again, fans of mine, they're atheists.
	They just, they have a visceral reaction against Christianity.
	And I say, I'm not a Christian, but objectively, look at how much better things are with this worldview than the lack of.
	Absolutely.
	And not only that, they're happier.
	People who are religious are happier than people who are not religious.
	Just if people who are married are happier than people who are not married.
	And there's a reason for this.
	If you don't feel that you're a victim, if you feel that you're loved by a higher power, you're much more likely to be happy.
	So for all these reasons, they're more generous.
	They're more charitable with their time, with their money.
	They're happier.
	There are a lot of reasons to be religious beyond a belief in a higher being.
	Sure.
	I think, too, it's purpose.
	I think a lot of these young men have no purpose.
	They have no sense of a mission.
	And, you know, what I see, not with literally every religious person, and I don't just mean Christianity, but I find that many individuals who follow a faith feel like they have some kind of divine task, that something is expected of them from a higher power that they must fulfill and that it feels good to be on a mission.
	A lot of the guys I knew growing up with, they're like, what's the point of anything?
	Why am I even here?
	I don't even know or care.
	And then the people I knew who are religious were like, I have a mandate from God.
	I must be a good person.
	I must be a good leader.
	I must help my community.
	You know, being part of something bigger, I feel like it inspires people to be better.
	And we are losing that as a nation across the board.
	I think that's resulting in a lot of the political turmoil.
	It's resulting in this, we have a society is becoming more and more trustless, a low trust society, they call it.
	And whether or not, you know, actually, I'll put it this way, while I do think the National Guard deployment would be a good thing, it worries me that we're at the point where we need it.
	And reversing the problems that led to this request of a National Guard is not going to be related to a National Guard.
	It's going to be a cultural change.
	But we have this culture war going on where there's two distinct worldviews.
	And one, I just, it's hard to say, but it looks objectively evil.
	You know?
	I think it is.
	Yeah.
	You know, there are all sorts of stories people have that illustrate what you just now said about religion.
	I have a friend who works at an insurance company, and her boss told her that when he was a kid, he was crying.
	He was two or three years old, and his father was out of his life, and his mother broke his jaw.
	Social services found out about it and investigated and didn't take him away from her.
	About a year or two later, he was crying.
	His mother broke his arm.
	This time, social services came and took him away from her.
	And he was in a series of foster homes for a number of years, angry at the world, angry at life, had no purpose, didn't care about school.
	And then one time a Catholic priest came to one of the foster homes that he was staying and he said, you know, God has a purpose for everybody.
	Everybody has a mission.
	Everybody has a talent.
	Everybody has a strength.
	And it was in one ear and out the other.
	He walked up to the priest afterwards and said, told him what I told you.
	He said, what's my purpose?
	What's my strength?
	What's my value?
	And the pastor priest said, don't you see?
	You survived it.
	You're standing here in front of me.
	You survived a mother who broke your jaw, a mother who broke your arm, a father out of your life, and you're still standing here.
	That is your strength.
	And you must use that and show other people how to be strong.
	And for whatever reason, Tim, it turned him around.
	Fast forward, the guy is now a senior executive making seven figures at an insurance company.
	Wow.
	And he'd not had that conversation.
	Who knows how his life would have turned out.
	Isn't it funny how the logic was there the whole time?
	He had suffered tremendously and survived it and said, what's my strength?
	And it's like, you've proven it.
	You have survived.
	In front of you.
	Open your eyes.
	It's right there.
	I love these stories, man.
	And, you know, it breaks my heart to see the wasted potential of so much of humanity.
	You know, Elon Musk talks about the population crisis.
	We need more people, but we, you know, many people haven't had kids.
	I recently had a kid.
	It's late.
	And what's always, it gives me a sadness is to see there are tens of millions, hundreds of millions of human beings of tremendous potential that struggle to reach it, if not for just that single sentence that could tell them, like that story you told me.
	You know, this is going to sound self-serving, but I was telling this to my to my pastor.
	I'm 73 years old and from time to time I thought about retiring.
	I have enough nuggets put away.
	I could do that if I wanted to, but I can't.
	I'll tell you why.
	I ran for governor in 2021.
	I'm in an airport and this black man walks up to me.
	He's about 35, 40 years old, very well dressed.
	And he says, I cannot believe I'm meeting you.
	You've changed my life.
	I grew up without a father.
	I was angry.
	I was blaming everything on racism.
	I started listening to your radio show and I couldn't stand you at first.
	But little by little, I realized you were telling me to get off my butt, play the card to the best of my ability.
	I'm now a senior executive at Merrill Lynch.
	About a quarter of all the offices report to me.
	Had it not been for you and for the way you encouraged me, I don't think I would be here.
	And he cried, hugged me, and we took pictures.
	I mean, I get that all the time, Tim, all the time.
	And I know I've made a difference.
	And so that is my goal.
	I'm very religious.
	I have a pastor named Pastor Jack Hibbs, who I admire a great deal.
	And I do feel I have a higher purpose.
	And I think it gives me a, you know, a spring in my step.
	It's, you know, I liken it to lighting that spark, the fire within people.
	There's, I feel similarly why, you know, I speak passionately about what I believe.
	There are so many people that just need that hand on the shoulder and it lights them up and then they find their path.
	Hopefully, if, you know, the National Guard comes in and can put a stop to this crime, it can create a path where people will feel safe and these conversations can happen.
	But we need a cultural shift if we're really going to solve these problems.
	But Larry, I appreciate you joining me.
	Where can people find you?
	At Larry Elder is my Twitter handle.
	I'm on from 3 p.m. until 6 p.m. live based in Los Angeles, a naturally syndicated radio show.
	Just go to my website, larryelder.com, and check out the show.
	I've also written a bunch of books.
	My last one is called As Goes California, My Mission to Rescue the Golden State, Save the Nation.
	And I've done a couple of documentaries, including Uncle Tom 1 and Uncle Tom 2.
	So I'm available.
	I write a weekly column once a week.
	I've written about 1,400 columns once a week since April of 1998.
	So the man has been busy.
	Right on.
	You're a legend, man.
	I really do appreciate you joining us.
	And we'll see you next time.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	Take care.
	Have a good one.
	You too.
	Absolute legend, Larry Elder.
	He hits the nail on the head with the hammer so much.
	I'll say one quick thing as we move on, and we're going to be obviously sending you guys on your way to the next show, which I believe we should have Russell Brand usually.
	But of course, I'm just back from a few weeks out.
	So, you know, the one thing I want to say is there's, I'm, oh, yep, Russell Brand's gearing up.
	We'll get you guys ready to go.
	I'm not a religious person.
	I don't follow a faith structure.
	I don't follow Christianity, anything like that.
	And there are people who are, you know, they accuse people in this space of being grifters.
	There are some people who were liberal atheists who converted.
	Russell Brand converted.
	I think it's fantastic.
	I approach it mathematically and logically.
	And I'll say it again.
	We are better off with a faith-based Christian nation than we are with a secular atheist one.
	They want to pretend that the secular atheist society is flying spaceships and, you know, the Jetsons or whatever.
	There were memes when I was a teenager of what the world would be like without religion.
	And it shows flying cars and all that stuff.
	We are learning right now what we actually end up with.
	And it is a low trust society, violence and crime.
	I'm not saying, in my view, that Christianity is the perfect solution.
	I'm saying where I grew up, I would much rather have the young men in my community singing choir songs in a church.
	Maybe you find them to be bigoted, whatever.
	I get along with those people even when we disagree.
	It's like, okay, they're not killing people.
	I would prefer that over the low trust gang and violence and, you know, crime that we ended up seeing.
	So by all means, tell me you think there could be something better.
	I'm not going to say you're wrong.
	I'm just saying as we see religion on the decline across the board, all religions, we can see this low trust fragmenting of society, which is worrying to me.
	But I'm going to get you guys on your way to go hang out with our good friend Russell Brand.
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