Tim Pool and guests dissect sensationalized Hantavirus panic, arguing the virus spreads via rat droppings rather than human-to-human contact. They debate political radicalization, from Mark Hamill's deleted tweet to Zohran Mamdani's influence, while exploring CIA propaganda history and the Smith Act's legacy. The conversation shifts to government overreach, hypothetical VR isolation, and whether aliens are demons or Jesus Christ. Finally, they analyze capital flight, voting restrictions, and fears of techno-fascism, concluding that political elites exploit crises like pandemics to consolidate power through surveillance and misinformation. [Automatically generated summary]
Everyone online is freaking out about the Hantavirus.
A new reported case in Switzerland.
What's going on?
In fact, a Twitter account tweeted in 2022.
In 2023, the coronavirus pandemic would end.
And in 2026, the Hantavirus.
I'm just going to tell you right off the bat I think the real story here is that there is no big story.
The news outlets are all fairly desperate for something to cover.
And I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on right off the bat without bearing the lead, but we'll talk about it.
I mean, it is interesting.
This weird Twitter post is interesting.
I think all of the editors in chiefs of these companies are sitting around, like, drooling, going, Is there anything to talk about?
And then one editor goes, I don't even talk about the Hantavirus thing on the cruise.
And I was like, Okay, let's just write up what they got.
Because honestly, when you look at the numbers year over year, this is not spectacular at all.
And now you've got posts from, like, was it Sarah Palin saying, Do not comply.
And I'm sitting here being like, Guys, Okay, no, I get that.
But if we really did get widespread Hantavirus pandemic, it's a 40% mortality.
I don't think compliance becomes part of the equation when half of the people are dead.
And I'm not trying to be cute, but we'll talk about it.
It's interesting nonetheless.
To back up my claim that it's a slow news day, and that's why this story is going massively viral, there's nothing else, is also a story from YouGov where they did a poll asking if an eight year old could beat up Donald Trump winning a fist fight.
I'm not kidding.
YouGov polled people asking if they thought Trump would win a fist fight with an eight year old.
I have to imagine, like, after the Hantavirus stuff, the guys at YouGov are just sitting there like, I really just have nothing.
And they're like, You think Trump could beat up a little kid?
Let's ask people.
That's how desperate they are for news right now.
I'm not even joking.
So, of course, there is still a bit we can talk about.
We'll get into that.
Mark Hamill deleted a tweet where he called for the death of Trump.
He really did.
And he tried wording it in a Weasley way, but he did.
And people were calling for boycotts.
And so he took the post down.
We'll talk about that.
It's getting crazy out there.
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Here's a story from the Washington Post Authorities scramble to limit Hanta virus outbreak, trace contacts around the globe.
U.S. officials in at least five states Arizona, California, Georgia, Texas, Virginia are monitoring systems of seven returning passengers.
And so when I saw this story, And you've got these reports.
They're saying now that there's a reported case in Switzerland.
Let me break it down for you.
The only thing that's somewhat alarming is this story from Dutch news.
A KLM flood attendant has been hospitalized with suspected Honta virus.
And the reason why this one matters this person was not on the boat.
She just came into contact with someone who did go on the boat and then died.
So there is concern that this may be spreading human to human.
I just want to stress this, though.
The person in Switzerland was apparently on the boat.
And when they got off the boat and heard about it, they went to the hospital and they're like, you might actually have this too.
So far, I think now we have three confirmed deaths, potentially eight cases that are not confirmed, not lab tested, we don't know.
But I can say, I can confirm, desperate newsrooms around the globe are running this story and screeching like banshees because there was just nothing else to really talk about.
And I'm going to tell you this because Libby's here to attest to this fact.
But even here, I actually just didn't, I only did a short version of my morning show.
I only did about 45 minutes.
Because going through all the news, I was like, look, Mark Hamill called for the president to be killed or to die or whatever.
That's news.
Then I was just like, people are talking about Hantavirus.
I did my research and I found that this Hantavirus outbreak, they're calling it, is unremarkable.
And actually, the past several years have been substantially worse than whatever this is.
And I was like, is that what it is?
Because we're sitting here and I'm going, like, I'm in the slack, like, guys, is this big news?
And people are like shrugging.
And I'm sure that's what's happening with Libby, right?
Spencer Pratt said on the debate stage, you know, I blame you for burning down my house and my parents' house and all of my neighbors' homes, my kids' school and everything else.
And Hanta virus, that's the thing where you like, we were talking about this in the chat today, because as you said, there wasn't that much to talk about.
It's the thing where it's, Like rat poop, basically.
There's nine cases and three deaths, and someone made a global Honda trigger.
Guys, listen, I understand.
Like, this.
I love this story with Soothsayer because the conspiracy stuff is much more fun.
There's like four tweets, and one of them is Hantavirus.
And I'm just imagining, like, Bill Gates has an intern, some 24 year old chick, and she's like doing selfies, and she's like, I can see the future with astrology.
And then Bill Gates walks in and goes, I think after coronavirus is over in 23, we should launch the Honda virus.
What I wonder is, is the news slow today because the people that are trying to produce a global pandemic wanted to shut down all the other news so everyone could focus on Hantavirus?
They could cause panic.
And then they could start building vaccines for it.
This is a really fascinating aspect of one of your opponents' real weapons being your own nation's economy.
Like Iran knows it could never actually militarily destroy the United States, but it does know that it's basically sitting on this massive resource and ultimately it can control the flow of economic output.
And so, you know, you have this phenomenon where Trump is literally fighting the wars over the weekend so they don't impact the markets and then declaring them over during the week and then going back.
And he's just cycling over and over again.
So it creates this really.
Strange dynamic where, like, there are these little bursts of conflict whenever they won't wreck the market and then they pull it back in just in time to set everything back on course.
And that's to remove Iran's ability to ultimately tank the markets and create economic pain on the United States, which is their greatest weapon.
They're never going to win with missiles, they're going to win by harming the stock market.
And Donald Trump knows that.
That's why they're fighting the war the way they are.
Because I remember we were in the basement and I remember when Trump made the announcement in March, like we're shutting the country down, and we were like, fuck.
Again, it is an interesting dynamic that like Trump's relatively successful first term was completely train wrecked because of the pandemic and everything that came after it, all the madness.
And then basically halfway through a presidency, you're also seeing another story about pandemics.
Just to put people at ease, I'm not a doctor, but I have played Plague Inc., and I know that if you want to spread a global virus and you want to spread globally and infect everyone, you don't want to be super deadly.
You want to be very infective, but not deadly, so that everyone gets it without knowing they have it, and then you mutate and become deadly.
Like anybody who's played Plague Inc., like Ian mentioned, in order to infect the whole world, it has to be a somewhat negligible, high transmissible virus.
If a virus is too deadly, then whether people want to spread it or not, they die and then it stops spreading.
So, well, you know, I think one thing that happened with that is that we all got kind of immune to celebrities calling for the assassination of the president.
And so we stopped really talking about it that much.
And I think it's time to start talking about it again.
Mark Hamill was calling for the assassination of Donald Trump.
You had Justin Pearson in the Tennessee legislature, who's very outspoken, blah, blah, blah.
He was calling, he was saying Trump is a domestic terrorist.
Halfway through, they had to make some incredibly lazy storyline about how the Christian conservatives were the real evil people and they are all secretly gay child molesters.
And it's like, oh, so this again, it's all anti Christian.
So, even in that moment where like someone had literally been murdered in front of everyone and there was like the most amount of ferocity you would ever see from the conservative movement over it, even in that moment, it was difficult to leverage that for a full cancellation for a guy like Jimmy Kimmel, who's an absolute loser anyway.
So, I hate to say that I don't think conservatives are going to make any real hay about this, but they absolutely should.
There's no reason you should give people who want to kill you your money.
Like you really deserve what you get if you keep doing that.
Anyway, the point is, that was an example of him voicing the Joker.
And he's in the video game, and he's got actually some really horrifying lines in the games when they make Joker actually murder people and stuff like that.
Yeah.
But anyway, back to your point.
Sorry for, we can go back to these people cannot, we cannot reconcile our differences and they want to kill us.
Well, there was this fascinating thing the other day where Stephen Colbert was interviewing Obama and they were talking about if Mamdani is the future of the Democrat Party.
And they agreed that, you know, he probably is.
And Colbert said something really fascinating, which was he said, My kids come up to me and they say, Dad, you're a liberal.
I think the Trump admin is probably concerned with biting the trap.
That the communists will lay out, which is like Saul Winsky's rule for radicals.
You want the opponent to become the fascist by cracking down on your street violence so that you can rally your communist allies to say, See, we told you they are fascist.
Now we need a communist revolution.
So we talk about that on this show.
I hope there's people in the Trump admin that watch this show and have understood that rule.
That's a basic radical leftist rule.
So that's why I think they're not slamming down hard with hard power and they're doing things like USAID and unraveling things behind the scenes.
If you look at history, if you look at something like the Spanish Civil War and the escalation going into it, it was the fact that the right wing, that the standing government was not willing to deal with what was going on.
The continuous assassination of right wingers is actually what eventually drove people towards someone like Francisco Franco to solve the problem.
So if you crack down early and hard, you end up in a scenario where people don't believe they can get away with violence and you don't see the spiral of escalation.
But when you allow that, you build this basically broken window scenario.
I'm sure you're familiar with.
Broken windows policing, the idea that if you allow these in your neighborhood, it's only going to get worse because people see it's allowable and they don't care to take care of the thing around them.
Same thing is true with political violence.
Once you recognize that political violence is on the table, it becomes the only option.
It becomes the superior strategy in every scenario.
So if you don't nip it in the bud, if you don't secure the monopoly on violence as the state, someone else will do violence.
And if you allow these radical leftists to do it, it will only get worse.
Well, and we're in a situation now where people who follow the laws are held accountable to the laws.
And if you don't follow the laws, And you're just a criminal, you're not held accountable at all.
We've seen so many people and so many stories of people getting off after committing rapes or murders or really vile things, being said that they are not mentally capable to stand trial, but for some reason they're mentally capable to wander around society and kill people.
When you recognize that you can leverage the lower classes against the middle class that actually have the power to change things, the capital, the votes, the organization.
You can actually destroy all of your up and coming opponents while maintaining your own power as an elite.
So, this is actually a surprisingly active strategy.
It's not some mistake because our elites are stupid.
In any functioning country, the moment Mom Dhani said that he would defy the will of the American voters to protect illegal immigrants in this country, the federal government would intervene, issue emergency management, some kind of like Reconstruction era move.
But I don't know if we have any kind of real strength in our political class.
I don't know if Donald Trump has the strength for this kind of thing.
I can't imagine they're unaware of it.
I mean, Harmite Dillon especially has to be aware of it.
It's not about the Asian stuff or the affirmative action, whatever.
That's a culture war thing.
What Mom Dhani represented when he campaigned explicitly on, I know what the American people have voted for and I will weaponize the wealth and resources of this city against them.
So we've actually dealt with this multiple times in our nation's history.
We called this the nullification crisis.
Because there was a question as to whether or not the state legislatures had to enforce federal law, whether they could choose to basically ignore it because they were sovereign entities under the Constitution.
And Andrew Jackson basically said, Yeah, you're going to do what I tell you to do and threaten to use serious force.
But this was an open question for a long time in America.
It was supposed to be resolved after the nullification crisis.
But it turns out that most of the time it's one side that gets away with basically ignoring the law.
I mean, how long did we have sanctuary cities in the United States?
Flagrant violations of law, obvious instance of nullification.
So now, recently, you have again, no vacation with Mamdani holding a press conference saying, We will not comply with federal law enforcement on immigration.
So here's a guy who campaigns saying, If you vote for me, vote for me in this city, I will fight against the American people.
Somewhat frustrating in that they really just ham it up like Trump, you know, is Homelander.
And it's kind of weird to be like Trump is Superman as an insult, seriously.
So they just make him an asshole and it's like, okay.
But they had an episode of The Boys where Homelander hallucinates this woman he used to suckle on, literally suckle on, because they're obsessed with it.
And he says, I'm, it's like she floats to him as an angel, has a vision, and he says, I'm the savior, I'm the messiah, or whatever.
And Trump put out that meme.
And everybody was like, this is really weird.
And then you actually have in one of the later episodes, again, these episodes are written and filmed before everything, where they're talking about efforts taken by Homelander, who's manipulating the president, are going to cause a spike in oil prices, and OPEC will revolt, and it's going to cut off the West.
So the US is now ramping up oil production, and they're building an oil pipeline.
And I'm like, you know, here's the thing Daredevil season two is about Kingpin, a charismatic criminal.
Rallies all the people and they all support him.
They vote for him.
He becomes despotic.
I don't want spoiler alert, I guess.
Goes to war with the governor, threatens her, and makes demands from her.
She refuses, tries to have her assassinated.
Again, I'm not suggesting someone's doing those things, but it is interesting how Daredevil season two is about a corrupt mayor taking over, claiming he loves the city, and threatening the governor and then trying to kill her.
And then Daredevil has to fight the mayor.
And I'm like, you know, now what I will say is the cops.
Are actually not the bad guys.
There's a rogue task force.
So we're not really there yet.
But I did very much enjoy Daredevil season two.
They're not doing like a Trump thing.
Kingpin is Kingpin.
He has his own armed force with illegal weapons that they brought in, and the cops stand against him in the end.
But I just thought it was funny that, you know, these two shows are kind of, you know, although they'll probably argue, no, no, Zorhan Mamdani's the good guy.
And that he is seeking to create New York City as some sort of socialist utopia where everyone relies on the government for everything from transportation to food to employment to healthcare to childcare to anything else he can come up with.
That's the plan.
The plan is to deprive Americans of their rights by replacing liberty with ease.
And, you know, people are so uneducated at this point with a sixth grade education that they're going to go along with it.
And so the failure is going back to the educational system where no one has learned civics, no one has learned.
About our founding documents.
Very few have, you know.
I mean, my son has for sure, but that's because he's inquisitive and me and his dad teach him all that stuff.
But yeah, that's what's going to happen.
And by the time Americans are completely deprived of their liberty and they have what they think is an easy life and they're thoroughly controlled, it's going to be way too late.
Well, and this is also why you're getting lots of mass immigration, right?
Because again, it's low and high versus the middle.
Not only do you have these students who aren't learning about it, you have a lot of immigrants who come in who just have no connection to the tradition.
They're not familiar with the history.
They don't have these expectations.
And what they walk in is like, well, even a bad life in America is way better than the life I had back there.
So I'll do and vote for, you know, do whatever Democrats say.
I'll vote for whatever they want because they're going to give me stuff.
And I don't have that back home.
And I certainly don't have it now that I've moved here.
So you're basically moving in an entire underclass yet again that you can use to leverage against existing Americans that might be able to oppose what you're doing.
With the redistricting war, we're seeing hyper polarization, but there is a solution.
Artificial intelligence surveillance.
You either hook the electrode to the brain and stimulate the dopamine until they don't work anymore, or you track them with AI surveillance and remove them from the equation before they can become a problem.
Oh, no, I'm saying if you were the powers that be and you were like, uh oh, we brought in all these immigrants and now there's going to be a civil war, you say, okay, blast out AI.
So the people who fall into the AI trap and just basically self gratify all day will disappear.
Anybody who tries to stand up will track with mass surveillance and then just remove them on some fake.
Let me ask you let's say, you know, like one day government dudes, men in black, show up to your house or whatever, and they're like, you know, you're a problem for what we're doing.
So we're going to give you a choice.
You can stop doing politics and we'll pay you.
Just never do politics again.
Disappear.
Here's a VR helmet.
You can put it on, play video games all day, order pizza, or solitary confinement and merciless beatings.
And then I just want to just offer money to various political commentators for what, Seemingly, it would be like normal products just to see who would take it.
And the products will always be like, you know, this is a really good idea, actually.
This would be a great culture jam.
You know, with the animal farm thing, we saw a ton of conservatives shill for communism because they were paid to do it.
But it would be funny to do the inverse to liberals and some more conservatives, too.
I'd love to wrap them all up.
And then you like launch a product where it seems somewhat normal, like, you know, it's a face cream and it's like, yeah, it's like to clear up your acne, it's like organic.
But then it turns out it's made with like aborted baby parts.
And it's like, see how many conservatives would sell that.
James Burnham wrote a book called The Managerial Revolution.
And basically, what he was trying to explain is that communism, fascism, and yes, even liberal democracy were all basically converging on the same system of managerialism, the elite vanguard that you're describing there.
And so what we're really Talking about is not the issue of communism.
What we're talking about is the issue of high scale centralized governments in a managerial process.
And that's why it reliably produces the same outcome.
People say, oh, fascism and communism are the same thing.
Well, kind of, because they're actually all trying to deal with the same problem, which is mass consumption, mass production, the creation of kind of the Industrial Revolution and modern capitalism.
They're all reactions to that.
And so if you don't understand it in that historical framework, you don't really get what the problem with communism is.
Yeah, the economic.
Issues of communism are real.
What you're really looking at is the problem of scale, something that we still are not capable of dealing with.
And so it produces these perverse ideological incentives that work themselves out reliably in systems like communism.
So it's specifically that communist members of communist organizations that were subject to registration.
So these are communist action organizations, front organizations.
And I believe I actually have a list of what defines the organization.
They're officially on paper saying Communist Party of the United States, any successors of such party, regardless of assumed name.
Whose objective purpose is to overthrow the government of the United States or the government of any state, territory, district, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force, are not entitled to any rights, privileges, and immunities attended upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof.
And whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States shall be terminated.
Blah, So basically, Donald Trump.
He could literally be like, Are you a communist?
Like the DSA, for instance.
Any subsequent successors of the Communist Party.
And then he could be like, Okay, you now have no rights under the United States at all.
Yeah, this is a constant part of the Civil Rights Act, actually.
So originally, when it was written, it said explicitly, For instance, that you couldn't privilege people due to the race or specifically draw lines when it comes to outcomes.
And then a few years later, the courts ruled in Griggs versus Duke Power that you could create this disparate impact test.
And if there's any disparate impact between the races, even if you can't prove there was racism, you are by default violating the Civil Rights Act and it's therefore racist.
So this has been the case with the Civil Rights Act forever.
I think they're aware, and I'm with you, that the Trump administration should be far more aggressive and far more creative with its use of the law and power.
I will say one thing, however, that is a huge stumbling block.
The thing that Biden and Obama and all these people have going for them is that all of the system already aligns with what they want to do and what they want to believe.
So the reason that it feels like guys like Obama or Biden are ultimately more powerful when they're in office.
Isn't because they gained any kind of new ability by taking over that office.
You know, the Article II of the Constitution didn't change.
What happens is all the other branches of government, all the other mechanisms, all of the bureaucracy is already aligned with them.
And so they just move in that direction and allow them to do whatever they want to do.
When Trump's in office, all of that machinery is pushing against it.
So I think the administration is doing its best to try to turn that ship.
I think that's why you're seeing Army Dillon and others kind of doing good work.
But half of her office won't work for her, even now, after so many people have been fired or left, because They just hate the Republicans and they're going to dig in and do that.
Same thing with the FBI.
We've already seen Dan Bongino more or less tell us that the FBI wasn't really working for Trump or a good percentage of them weren't.
They are not under the control of the government.
So technically, the Republicans won that election.
Technically, Trump is in power.
But when you look at the actual mechanisms of government, they don't have access to the same thing.
And so I don't think they can use the law the same way that the left has, even though I think they should do the most they can.
I think Marco Rubio has shilled for amnesty his entire life and then suddenly turned around for a year and said, actually, maybe I don't believe in amnesty because the Trump administration told me I don't.
And then just yesterday, he was saying, actually, anyone from anywhere can be an American again.
So, I'm very, very worried about Marco Rubio when it comes to.
What he was saying was, I think, a little different.
I think he was saying that anyone from anywhere can come here and achieve.
But I think what he, my interpretation of that, because I thought that those were really great remarks.
And I think that my understanding of an American, and I think you might disagree with me, but it's someone who is either born in America and you accept our values and our culture and you're part of this country and it's where you're from.
Or if you're an immigrant and you come here, you cast off all your other ties, you cast off any allegiance to your home nation, and you say, I'm going to be an American.
I'm going to embrace these values, this culture, these founding documents, and I'm going to do my best to achieve on these terms.
So I do think that immigrants have a place in this country and have a place to, you know, achieve and take advantage of everything that's great that there is to offer, but not to come here and get handouts.
A common misconception against lower tiered thinking people on the left.
They really believe it's about race.
That when there's immigration and people on the right are upset that the city is now multicultural, whatever, they're like, oh, they hate black people or they hate Indian people.
When the real concern is the cultural deconstruction.
That's what people are.
There are racists, of course, but many people are afraid that the American culture is being diffused.
So we got this video, it's from Black People of Reddit.
And it's response to this comment voting may matter within the Constitutional Republic, but uh, well, the Constitutional Republic is nearly an open air prison.
Listen to what this man has to say.
Apparently, we can't listen to what he has to say.
Let me pause real quick and make sure that we're listening, but I heard nothing.
The first reaction I had was like it was like a visceral anger to him at just attacking white people.
I'm not completely white, but I'm a little bit.
And then I stopped and really thought about what he was saying, and I was like, no, I mean, he's right.
People need to be told based on their race to be better.
And when it turns out, according to the FBI crime stats, that it's largely black men committing all the violent crimes, this man has inspired me.
And I think based on his advocacy and his name, we shall put forth laws that give you harsher penalties if you commit a crime while being black.
Is that the argument he's making?
Is that what you would like, sir?
Well, he says white men are bad and they got to do better.
And I'm like, yeah.
And, you know, and there's other bad people who are black.
So maybe if he says we need laws to stop white people from being bad, maybe if we make laws specifically targeting black people the way he's argued, it might stop the murders.
If this dude was a white dude with like maybe a shaved head and he was screaming about black people, you black people, could you imagine how much negative attention he'd be getting?
Well, I mean, the funny thing about this is, you know, we're doing the old, well, what if the roles were reversed, which is, yeah, okay.
So obviously you can be racist against white people and not black people, news at 11.
But also, like, the bigger part of his rant here is, is like, well, why do you have so many laws centered around race?
And actually, that's a really great question, right?
Because the left says we have to have them because America is inherently racist.
And without that, we're going to have all of the racist outcomes that Americans really want.
But the funny thing is, you can't get Republicans to roll these back, either.
Usually, it's kind of impressive that we finally saw that in the Voting Rights Act.
And once again, God bless Clarence Thomas and his absolute, like, just carrying the constitutional order on his shoulders.
However, one of the reasons those laws exist is despite decades and decades and decades of basically rigging the entire system in favor of minorities, we still see disparate outcomes.
We have changed the laws to make it harder to fire minorities, easier to hire them, make it basically illegal to have too many white people in your office.
We've done this for education, and none of this has significantly shifted the outcomes.
Well, everyone also forgets that that march on Washington was a march for civil rights and jobs.
So there were a lot of working class people out there who just wanted, like, you know, a job.
They just wanted, like, decent wages.
And that was a huge part of it.
And that was a huge part of how you got such a wide coalition of people who were in favor of these, in favor of, That whole, you know, like what and how in what way do they get jobs?
Oh, I don't know if they got jobs, but that was what the march was called, you know.
And I know that, like, um, uh, I, you know, I know there's people in my family ancestors, whatever, people who went to the march and that's what they were there for.
It was like civil rights and jobs.
They wanted, like, just like people now today are like, we want good jobs so we can raise our families, you know, without worrying about having to get five jobs.
She was demanding reparations for slavery from the government.
And it turned out, yeah, whatever.
Green Party, they're idiots.
But this black woman in the UK demanding reparations.
And it turned out that she was descended from a tribe that sold slaves.
Africans into slavery.
I mean, if you look at it now, there's more slavery right now in the Middle East than there was during the entire like slave trade in the United States.
I gotta say something because the one thing I can respect for a lot of the social justice stuff is I was hanging out at the poker room as one does, and there was a black dude he was playing, and a question came up.
I can't remember why, but someone mentioned like Europe and their like grandparents, and I said, Oh, you can become a citizen.
Like, apparently.
In some circumstances, if you're like your grandparent is from there, you can go back and then reapply.
And then this guy asked me, he's like, Oh, you could do that?
And I was like, No, I can't do that.
I was like, I can get a B visa from Korea, which is like a two year live work for being part Korean.
And he goes, Yeah.
He's like, I don't got nothing like that because I don't know where my family came from.
And I was like, Oh, I was like, Yeah, that's kind of messed up.
And he's like, Yeah.
And then he's like, You like Trump?
And I was like, Yeah.
And he goes, I love Trump.
I just thought it was funny that, like, this conversation, he's pointing out that the history, Of most black people in this country.
I say most because there's people coming from Haiti or they emigrate here.
But there are a lot of people who are descended from slaves.
They don't have that.
I know where my country is.
At the same time, this guy loved Trump and he hated Democrats.
I definitely find the racial element of slavery a correlation because of where the slaves of this nation were taken from.
Like, If it had been, you know, a North African Carthaginian culture that had been taken Roman slaves, 200 years later, after they're freed, all the slaves would have been white guys and they would have been complaining for white people's rights because all the Carthaginians have dark skin and they have all the money.
So, like, it's just, it doesn't really matter.
It's just about, you know, it's more about who, it's less about what you look like.
This thing is all a system of control because they have Black Lives Matter and replacement immigration in Ireland, which was literally a place that was oppressed for centuries by the English and had nothing to do with the slave trade or any of it.
But they use the same rhetoric in Ireland that they use in the United States.
Like eventually, there's just a maximal way to game the algorithm only one way, only one set of news stories, only one way to master the news cycle so that you stay on top.
And then everyone just converges on that strategy.
The best practices become the only thing that dictates what people cover.
Well, I will say that actually we're reverting back to the fact that you will get more views doing news production.
There was a period where news production was waning because it was too easy to aggregate, but now aggregation is saturated and news production is going to come back.
Let's jump to this from YouGov.
How many Americans think they could beat Donald Trump in a fight?
Would you be surprised to find out that Republicans actually think they can't?
Check it out.
Who do you think would win in a physical fight between you and Trump?
Democrats, 75% said they would.
5% said Trump would.
33% of Republicans said they would, but 39% said Trump would.
When I first read this, I was like, what Republican thinks Trump Could beat them up.
That's insane.
Like, if there was a sanctioned MMA fight, Dana White and Trump came in, I'm 40, but I'm sorry.
He's got, you know, half a foot on me, but I could still win a fight against an 80 year old man.
And then I thought about it.
I was like, you know, there's, if this is weighted for age and gender, there's going to be a bunch of women who are like, look, I weigh, I'm 5'2", 100 pounds.
You know, I posted that it's a slow news day, and then someone said, it's not that there's no news, it's that our tolerance has been built up to an extreme degree.
You know, because Jess, who works here, she was like, we're on the verge of civil war, World War III, the AI takeover, and an alien invasion, and there's no news today.
I met some higher Christian dudes and they were like, there are monks.
They sit on top of mountains.
All they do all day is meditate, and he's like 160.
And I'm like, when I was like 18, when I met this guy, I was like, I don't believe that.
That's crazy.
Then when I got older, I read about caloric deprivation.
And I was like, oh, yeah, actually, if you're not doing anything and all you're doing is sitting every single day, doing minimal caloric intake and exercise, we do see a 70% lifespan increase.
If the key barrier to achieving a transcendent understanding of the universe is that you get bored, then you probably don't deserve to achieve a transcendent understanding of the universe.
Like, it might take some work.
It might require you to do something unpleasant.
In fact, that's the entire point of religion, I think, and spirituality in a broader sense.
If it's not depriving you of something, then what does it matter?
Yeah, this is kind of a, again, this hyperstition, which is, you know, there's some truth to that, but I don't think that's like a trick that works with God.
I think God does what he wants.
And, you know, you communing with him is the purpose of prayer.
I honestly think that if today, maybe today was a slow news day, but Donald Trump, what he's going to do is aliens are going to land on the White House lawn, and then everyone's going to be going, aliens, oh my God.
And then Donald Trump's going to tweet out something like, the Democrats are a bunch of fat pigs who should be charged with treason.
And then everyone's going to go, wait right here to the aliens, and they're going to run over to try and cover Trump.
Now, there is a theory that a lot of these pastors believe the government is lying, telling them to prepare for this because they want to break faith in Christianity.
They go to pastors and say, look, aliens are real.
You're going to disclose it.
Your congregation needs to be taught about it.
And these guys are like, is the government trying to convince us to abandon our faith?
I brought it up the other night, and this is something my friends are like, oh, look at Ian disrespecting Christians.
I said, look, if someone's willing to believe something without proof, because I look at earth religions as like evidential, a lot of them are based on like text that you don't have a lot of like, you know, a piece of text that's self referential text.
So if someone's willing to believe something without proof, they might be willing to believe something else without proof, like aliens are here.
So I don't want these people to be led astray because Christianity has wonderful values and morals that you need to abide by or you can.
Can improve your life by abiding by, but that doesn't mean you have to believe that every fact in the book actually is real.
But the mistake that you're making is the presumption that because someone has a lifetime of experiences which leads them to belief, that a single experience at one time would change or give them a new belief.
You said there are people who can believe things on evidence.
I'd be worried they would believe in aliens.
You're talking about a person who has lived their whole life in accordance with a worldview which leads them to believe something strongly versus that same person then seeing aliens land and believing instantly that, well, you know, like my whole worldview is wrong.
I mean, we hold on to our epistemologies pretty tightly.
So, for instance, when it came to public health, we literally watched like every major organization in the United States and the wider world lie to us on a regular basis from positions of authority.
And despite that, a couple of years later, everybody basically just went back to believing what those people said on a regular basis.
So, I think it's fair to say that once people are in that rut, it's pretty hard to break.
There are more people who don't believe the government than ever before, I think, because of the actions during COVID.
So if an alien comes and it's not human, a demon image doesn't mean like his literal physical image.
They don't mean that like God has two physical arms and legs in the same way that a human does, though obviously Jesus did when incarnated in that way.
I mean, that you have the ability to see what God sees, to understand, or not exactly see what God sees, but to experience free will, to understand the world in a way that no other being.
In the world, does I mean, I guess there are people who could argue that yes, they did mean in a little physical, you know, incarnation way, but I think most people understand it as more of a spiritual image of God and not a like actual physical resemblance to God.
The other reason I believe that they are potentially targeting Christians, like you mentioned earlier, Tim, is that if you can break America's founding religion as much as it's taken, especially for the last 40 years with the internet getting sloshed by the globe, but like if you can break people away from that.
In question, that they'd toss the morals aside.
And if they toss the morals of Christianity aside, I feel like we've lost.
If you lose the ability to have like patience for your enemy, you can destroy your enemy without hating him.
When you hate, you get blinded, you get lazy, you get diffused.
You need to maintain these virtues to win a war in a lot of ways.
Well, as a Southerner whose family was shot by those Irishmen, I have mixed feelings about Lincoln importing a bunch of immigrants to murder our Americans, but you know, feel how you feel about that.
Well, but that's because people are doing stupid things with their power and trying to convert their entire grids to solar and renewables, which is not effective.
What about like, I'd say technocracy easy, yeah, what about, yeah, I mean, what about like, as long as my communism is gay space and luxury, it's fine, yeah, what gay space and luxury.
But not if we do it right, because what's happening is Elon, you can have a corporate government that is done like the American government, but we need to architect.
It's a social network called Mines, where we developed through all of U.S. law, basically what would it be like to govern yourself on a social network.
So the people.
If something gets reported, it goes to a jury of people that volunteer for a jury, and then they can say, Yes, that violates the law.
And then if their account gets it wrong, then they get deprioritized in their juror capabilities, and people will sort of self police the network.
If we can create a system like that, that's a corporation where people can get paid for using it, it's righteous, it involves the U.S. Constitution as its basis, then we can preempt the global economic corporate government.
But functionally, What we're talking about is state control, entire state control of ideological understandings of the world through technocratic means.
Like that's going to be where everyone's going.
And so that's why everyone is implementing censorship of the internet right now.
It's why everyone's trying to tie bank accounts down.
That's why everyone's trying to make sure you can't drive in your car.
That's why, because the only way you can take diverse, large groups of people and govern them at scale is through basically technological tyranny.
So I see like a mesh network where everyone has their own social network that's connected to every other network, and everyone has their own cryptocurrency tracked with their person that they can pay people for, and people can buy things from them with discounts.
They use their own crypto, so it gives your inherent crypto value if you do things.
And then you can decide the rules and regulations of your own network.
People can still access your network from their system where they have their own rules.
And if they want to ban your stuff from their network, they can, but they can't ban you.
You have full control of your own network.
So it's kind of like Like techno, techno republic.
He talked about patchwork a long time ago, which is basically like this quasi authoritarian, quasi libertarian synthesis of understandings where you have these microstates and each one of them is governed by someone with absolute power, but they're all competing against each other.
In a hyper capitalistic manner.
So you can choose to go to one patch, you can choose to go to the other, and they don't have to interact with each other.
And so people who see one system that works better, they can move there, but there's no voiding, there's no voting, there's no voice.
Your only option is exit.
Your only option is moving from one patch to the other.
And this allows you to kind of basically choose what forms of government and let them compete against each other for people who are ultimately going to be most valuable by producing the best systems while still having like this high degree of autonomy.
Again, none of the incentives that like destroy democracies by like handing out a bunch of stuff and getting power through votes.
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They keep bringing up my favorite game since '93, Civilization, which both of my sons play now, and Plague Inc. that I play every now and again to this day.
Civilization, except for the, like, I don't know what.
Yeah, cultural cohesion where they're all into what you believe, like the American way of life or the religious victory, or you get to Alpha Centauri first, basically, and populate another star system.
There's always that subtle hint if you walk into a liquor store where all the Hennessy bottles have the the theft control device on them and all the $200 scosh bottles don't.
But I mean, you look at Spencer Pratt and you see him talk and you listen to what he's saying and stuff, and you're like, no, he should be mayor of my town.
And the reason why they can't figure out what happened is because all of the newspapers stopped at a certain date, all of the servers stopped producing data, stopped displaying websites at a certain date.
It slowly just trickles out because the news is now in their networked environment, not outside.
For instance, if Benjamin Franklin was alive today, he'd say, I must figure out what's happening in this world.
Get me a periodical.
And we'd be like, Well, no, we use our phones to get the news.
He'd be like, What is that?
So if, let's say, the time froze and, you know, George Washington appeared here and everyone was frozen in time, he'd be looking for a newspaper to try and figure out what was going on, but there's limited information.
And that's what's basically the story.
And then, you know, the season two is.
They plug themselves into the matrix, and then there's interactions between human civilization and the pods.
The reason the beings came up out of ground is because periodically they have to maintain the servers and the power structures.
I can understand someone sitting around watching, like, Attack on Titan, and you walk in and you're like, what the fuck are you watching?
It's like, okay, well, these things are gigantic monsters, and that giant naked lady, and that guy's got cables he's shooting from his legs so he can swing around the city, but he's got to use the sword only in the neck.
Yeah, back in the day when I lived in Brooklyn, Adam had a big poker table, and then we'd sit there, they put the game on, and we'd play just three hour Magic the Gathering sessions, order pizza.
I once, I once, get this.
I once, this is going to blow your mind.
I took a bunch of brown sugar cinnamon Pop Tarts and I mashed them all up, threw them all in a bag and just mashed the bag up.
And then I used that as a cookie crust, dumped Dolce de Leche all over it.
And then I put another layer, and then I put chocolate Dolce de Leche on it.
And then I ate one, and I was like, this is insanely delicious.
I'm not going to eat any more of this.
And then I brought it over to Magic the Gathering Night.
With Warcraft started, we would just sit in the same room, me and Eric, my roommate in Chicago, we'd sit in the same room on each of our computers playing together.
But it was like that was where the divergence began.
And then I moved, and I didn't see him anymore, so we'd have to play online.
Yeah, I remember when you had Halo 1 and you had to do a LAN party by physically getting four Xboxes in the same area and four people playing on each one.
And now that they've made the entire experience preferential to you playing alone online with other people, just no one ever wants to ask you that.
You know, the one thing that I am jealous for regular people over is that no longer can I troll regular people because people know who I am and they know my opinions.
But, like, back in the day, I could walk down the street and I'd be talking to someone, and I could just claim to have whatever opinion I wanted if they said something retarded.
If they were like, Barack Obama's gonna get us out of the war in Afghanistan, I could just be like, well, Barack Obama, I could just say things to argue with them.
But now everybody knows my opinion, so it's just like, yeah, no, you get it.
I think it's oh, it resembles the nuclear bomb, and it's actually Gojira, but because people couldn't understand the Japanese accent and they're going, Gojira.
I mean, in the X Files, it was Mulder's dad that was working on that shit.
And there was another episode where Scully catches it because it was some, I don't remember what the deal was, but she like starts to freak out and bleed from the nose because she thinks she's got the Hanta virus.
I remember the first time I went out there, I had people saying that, you know, there were no hierarchies and freaking wolf packs and a bunch of all kinds of weird stuff.
It was a weird day.
But I've never tried doing that where you ask questions to them and just try to get, you know, those videos.
So, assuming there is intelligent alien life, you can then start to look at the mediums for which we understand.
Again, all based on human understanding, which is limited, but based on our understanding, water is a principal medium by which information can be exchanged.
So, they're going to be likely water based.
That's why we think if there's water, there's life.
If they're intelligent beings from a water planet, they're not going to be able to leave that planet or communicate, so we'll never experience that.
You can't build rockets, you can't refine elements or compounds, you can't do any of that.
They would actually have to come from a relatively comparably sized planet for propulsion to work for fuel propellants like we have.
They would have to have something to manipulate, they'd have to have digits of some sort to manipulate small objects, and they would have to come from a balanced oxygen environment.
To be able to create fire, which is the basis for which we can separate elements and create technology.
So it's fun for me that the Hantavirus is in the news because I actually am a Hantavirus survivor, and I'll be happy to talk about it during the after show.
So.
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Strip the system down and rebuild it from the ground up.
I don't think the idea that you're going to like legislate teachers or college professors into teaching something specific is ever going to work.
They'll always find a way around it, they'll always subvert the system.
So I think you would need to have the, you know, just stones to go in there and basically rip this thing out and root and branch and then build up new faculties, build up new systems.
That's the only way you'd actually get control of it.
If you're just trying to do this piecemeal thing, it's not going to work.
We need to understand that a lot of people say, oh, conservatives don't go to college, don't do this, don't do that.
The problem is elites actually drive political outcomes.
So if you don't have conservative lawyers, doctors, people in powerful positions, then that doesn't work.
Plumbers are awesome, plumbers are great, but they're never going to get you a Supreme Court ruling.
On the other side of that, like you should build these parallel systems because if you don't have anything to replace the corrupt stuff we already have, then once you disassemble it, it doesn't work.
So it's kind of you need to do both.
You need some level of entryism in the current system, and then you need to develop parallel systems simultaneously so there's something to switch over to.
I think AI is a phenomenal way to ensure that no one ever learns anything ever again.
When I was teaching kids, Treated Google basically as already like this magic eight ball that told them everything.
That was their entire epistemological understanding.
And when you just turn all of your thinking over to AI, what you're actually doing is turning it over to whoever makes AI, which is what Frank Herbert said in Dune, anyway.
And in the schooling system, it's vetted because you could do the same thing, could happen at a school where the teachers just tell you the wrong information and you believe it.
AI is already a cataclysm for education at scale because teachers relied on like, you know, these systems of grade scans and automated tests and everything else.
And all the kids are just using AI to like write all their essays and cheat on all their stuff.
And the thing, too, is the people that were programming the AI.
Like, they are the ones, they all came through these same completely corrupt institutions and have these bogus ideas because they didn't actually learn anything other than how to code.
At some point, you actually just have to go with human virtue.
And since we built our entire system to avoid faulty systems of human virtue, we basically have closed ourselves up from all actual natural organic ways to solve this problem.
In fact, you're hitting a position where, unless you get like one to one or one to like maybe four monitoring, education is going to basically become impossible.
So, considering that people, there is the old motto of don't let a good crisis go to waste, how do you think it will play in the next election and what is the probability they will begin to blow it up out of the proportions or the election cycle?