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FBI RAIDS Democrat Leader, ITS BEGUN | Timcast IRL

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Tim Pool and Angela McArdle dissect the FBI raid on Virginia Senate Leader Louise Lucas, framing it as a corruption probe weaponized against Democrats amidst redistricting battles in Tennessee and South Carolina. They debate the DOJ's bias, contrasting Biden's $1.6 million January 6th settlement with Trump's pardons, while McArdle argues states unconstitutionally altered voting rules via mail-in ballots. The conversation shifts to Libertarian alliances, with Elad accusing libertarians of being "useful idiots" for communists despite strategic necessities to stop interventionism. Guests defend Nick Fuentes against Democrat accusations and analyze media economics, noting low ad rates signal a struggling economy while high RPMs suggest potential nation-state manipulation. Ultimately, the episode suggests current political escalation risks civil war unless third parties effectively act as kingmakers to disrupt the two-party duopoly. [Automatically generated summary]
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FBI Raid on Virginia Leader 00:03:40
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The FBI has raided the office of a prominent Democrat leader in Virginia.
		This woman was spearheading the redistricting charge.
		Now, apparently, this is related to a corruption probe.
		Some have said this has to do with her selling pot at her cannabis store or whatever.
		And of course, the Democrats are framing this entirely as Donald Trump going after his political opponents who are leading the redistricting charge.
		It doesn't matter what your opinion is.
		Maybe it's legitimate, maybe it's not.
		I think most of us, those of you watching this show, As well as I assume there is a real reason they're going after this Democrat leader in Virginia.
		And notably, this probe began during the Biden administration.
		But of course, that won't stop many on the left from framing this as though it's political retaliation.
		Well, my friends, I don't know, whatever.
		Doesn't matter.
		There's a fight.
		Tennessee, they've introduced their new maps.
		South Carolina, joining the fray, they're going to introduce their new maps.
		Mississippi, all the same.
		Maryland, probably going to happen as well.
		And with the new primary results, All the people who oppose redistricting in Indiana being gone, well, most of them, five of seven, there is now likely going to be a redistricting effort in Indiana as well.
		It's going to get pretty crazy.
		People are already protesting, and let me just say, oh boy.
		So we'll talk about all that.
		And then we got a mayoral debate for LA happening tonight.
		We're not going to be covering it directly, but I do want to talk to you guys.
		We're going to talk a bit about Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt and what is happening in Los Angeles, because just like with New York and Zoran Mamadani, I know that's not his real name, I'm calling him that on purpose, they're in trouble.
		Big firms are already ditching the city.
		He's panicking and begging for money, calling it a historic crisis.
		Well, maybe your policies are not so good.
		We'll talk about that and more.
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unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You give us money, support the show, allow us to run the Discord, and then you join in.
		That's the point.
		As a member, you can call into this show Monday through Thursday.
		We do it at 10 p.m. on Rumble.
		You got to get involved because now more than ever, uh, I just, it's getting crazy.
		I'll just put it that way.
		The FBI is now reportedly investigating the leak into The Atlantic that accused Kash Patel of being a drunkard, which I believe is totally fake.
		He is not.
		It is lawfare.
		We talked about SCOTUS yesterday and how now you've got Alito calling, saying that Katanji Brown Jackson, her arguments are trivial and an insult to the court.
		It's all going well, I'll keep the language family friendly.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's getting crazy out there.
		So join us, smash the like button, share the show with everyone in your life.
		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Angela McArdle.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Hey there, thanks for having me back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anytime, who are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you do?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		My name is Angela McArdle.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm the chair of the Libertarian Mises Caucus, former chair of the National Libertarian Party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're all right on.
		Thanks for it.
		We have a lot to talk about with you.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		So much, so much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So it'll be, it's great to have you.
		Of course, the boys are hanging out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Don't forget to meditate.
unidentified		What up?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I just seized the moment.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		What did you put on your.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		A guitar pick?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like, yeah, it is.
		Carter figured it out.
		Upside down guitar pick.
		It looks like a teardrop.
		It's kind of like a gang sign.
		Gang symbol?
unidentified		No.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Meditation gang?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it kind of forces your forehead to not furrow.
		You know, when people, I want my forehead to be flat.
		To be like, there's a passion.
		Oh, naturally.
unidentified		What's up?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot's here.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, everybody.
		I'm a lot, Eliyahu, White House correspondent here at Tim Cass.
		Let's get into the show.
unidentified		Carter's here.
		All right, what's up, bro?
		You just got a camera to me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, you just got a camera to me.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I'm also here, and Ian's here, of course.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad, Angela.
		I'm glad you're here, too, man.
		Let's go.
unidentified		There's a lot to talk about.
unidentified		Let's get into the news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go from AP Yo, FBI searches Virginia Senate Leader's office as part of corruption probe.
		The FBI searched the Virginia State Leader's office.
		Senate leader's hometown office and her neighboring cannabis shop Wednesday, bringing into public view what was described as a years long corruption investigation.
		The searches at Democratic Senator L. Louise Lucas' office and cannabis business are part of what two people familiar with the matter called a corruption inquiry.
		One of the people said the investigation was opened during Joe Biden's administration.
		Ball spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal investigation.
		Now, famously, this is the lady that was going ham saying, let's nuke the Republican districts.
		She's posted incessantly on X about it.
		She'll look very old.
		But then we have this How is the left handling it?
		From the New Republic FBI raids office of top Democratic leader in redistricting wars.
		Their framing, of course, will not be the Biden initiated investigation into corruption, but of course, the redistricting wars.
		Now, she is the president pro temp in the Virginia Senate, one of the most prominent and longstanding Democrats in Virginia, the last bastion of the deep state.
		Whatever you think, I'm just going to say it, guys.
		It's a war, right?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		SCOTUS Alito saying Kitanji Brown Jackson's arguments are trivial and insulting.
		The fight is even in the Supreme Court amongst themselves.
		Not the first time, but it certainly is escalating.
		I don't know where this goes other than geographic hyperpolarization through redistricting, DOJ launching investigations and making arrests of Democrats.
		Meanwhile, when the Democrats were in power, they did the same to the Republicans and their lawyers.
		So you tell me what happens in 2028, depending on who wins.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They started this.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They started this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What did they start?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who started what?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Democrats, not Jews.
		They.
		Who was they?
		Democrats started this.
		They went after President Trump in 2016 to try to ruin his life and take out anybody and everybody associated with him.
		And they just totally weaponized the DOJ.
		And it's awful.
		And I hate that this is where politics are at.
		But at this point, it's a defensive posture.
		The least we could do is finish an investigation that was started by Joe Biden's administration.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, the point is like, yes, we can see that.
unidentified		But.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, in 2020, the census came in.
		Texas said we're going to redistrict.
		In 2021, they announced their maps.
		And then the Biden administration said no and blocked them.
		When Trump got in, he said, okay, stop.
		Pulled back on the lawsuit, dropped it, allowing Texas to finally implement their maps, which the Democrats said, hey, what are you doing?
		It's too late.
		You can't make new maps.
		Like, what?
		Joe Biden stopped them from doing it in the first place.
		January 20th, 2017, far left extremists riot in Washington, D.C., smashing windows, starting fires.
		Injuring police.
		It was a raucous insurrection in Washington, D.C.
		I was there.
		Well, these people got arrested.
		Then, when Joe Biden got into office in April, the federal government announced a settlement paying out $1.6 million to these extremists.
		So, when they say things like Trump pardoned the J 6ers, I say, wow, did he give them $1.6 million like Biden did to the insurrection in 2017?
		Now, I do believe some of the J 6ers actually are going to get a settlement for malicious prosecution or things like that.
		But the point is this.
		I do not believe the principal motivation for going after this Virginia Democrat really is just that there was a corruption probe during the Biden administration.
		As we can see over and over again, it has been an escalation.
		I look at it like it's a tower swinging back and forth, and every four years it swings more violently one way and then the other.
		Democrats, you know, Donald Trump gets in, arrests Antifa.
		Biden gets in, cuts them all loose, pays them a million bucks, 1.6.
		Jay Sitchers then get arrested.
		Trump gets in, pardons all the J 6ers.
		You see, I think this is going to culminate in shooting.
		I do not see how this escalation results in anything other than escalation.
		The Democrats do not believe that this is because she's corrupt.
		They think Trump is trying to go after anybody who would redistrict.
		And I don't know that's 100% the case, but if Trump and the GOP operate as though that is not the case, Democrats will crush them.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		You have to.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's a fascinating and confusing political environment right now.
		I feel like we all want to believe that the DOJ isn't being politically weaponized right now, but because there have been so many questionable indictments that have already been dismissed, it's hard to know for sure.
		So, for example, there was a first Comey indictment that I believe was already dismissed.
		There was an indictment against Tish James that I believe was also already dismissed.
		I don't know if the shift one was already dismissed, but I think the punishment is the process in this case.
		I don't know if they are looking.
		To convict on any of these charges, but just being investigated by the DOJ sucks.
		So, if that's what they're going for, it's only going to escalate, obviously, from here.
		I'd like to hope they have the goods.
		You don't want to see the DOJ just indicting political enemies.
		You hope that they end up bringing something to court that, you know, is viable and doesn't just immediately get dismissed.
		But because otherwise, I mean, I do suspect this only escalating, and I think this is going to discourage and disincentivize people from getting involved in politics in the future.
		I mean, of course, what does this mean for people in the The president's administration currently, because if they do lose the House and when they do eventually get out of office, I'm sure there will be endless investigations into them.
		So I don't know where that'll leave someone like Stephen Miller after the fact, or Secretary of War Pete Hegseth after the fact, or many of these congressmen or other administration cabinet officials after the fact.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think, I assume, it seems that people think it's either going to be escalation in this direction, or we're going to, people are going to stop this prosecution that's going after Jim Comey, and then we lose.
		So it's one or the other.
		It's either lose and don't prosecute, don't play the political tit for tat, or play the tit for tat, and then it escalates to a civil war, which is also losing.
		So I don't understand.
		Like, there's got to be more ways than these two things.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I understand why the president has a bone to pick because he was also, unfortunately, the DOJ was weaponized against him consistently.
		And, like, they brought multiple indictments, and he was, I don't think he was convicted on anything.
		And they were trying to take him out of the election legally, but they couldn't do so.
		And then once he was able to get back into power, he wanted to go on a revenge tour.
		And, like, you could understand that perspective, but we would call that an accountability tour.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Accountability tour?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They have an anti weaponization task force in the DOJ to try to unravel all of the weaponization of the previous administration.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But then, why isn't Fauci getting charged for perjury if, like, Rand Paul's been complaining about this day after.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		We got that preemptive pardon from Biden, didn't we?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But that's not for lying under oath.
		That's why Rand Paul is incessantly, he's got like three more days for the DOJ to press charges against Fauci.
		And Rand Paul's been on Twitter every day, 20,000 likes, please, now we have to charge Fauci with lying under oath.
		Where's that?
		If they're really going on a revenge, if they're really trying to solve who did wrong and the fact that.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Lying under oath will open a box of worms.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		There are a lot of former elected officials, a lot of cabinet officials who lie under oath.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not just that, I think.
		I'll put it like this.
		A lot of people see Fauci as a figurehead during COVID.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump hired the guy.
		He didn't hire him, but Trump kept him on.
		But they view him as a figurehead.
		And so they say, we want him charged.
		However, if you're actually looking at the org chart of the deep state, he's nothing.
		He's over there in the corner.
		And so you're asking the DOJ to divert its resources from people like this in Virginia who are leading the redistricting fight and corrupt, according to this probe.
		I mean, the probe's real.
		But you don't know who she is.
		The average American knows Fauci, but Fauci ain't doing nothing.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's not doing anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure, you can call him a liar, lie under oath, you can call him criminal, whatever you want, but he's over there.
		This lady's here right now.
		And that's the challenge.
		You give the red meat to the base, I'm sure the Democrats would love it.
		They'd be like, oh, thank God he's going after Fauci instead of someone actually pulling the strings.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I also kind of feel like if someone is directed to lie under oath by the president and they do it, kind of got to blame the president and not the guy that lied.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If just following orders is not an excuse for committing crimes, then Fauci should 100% be charged.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's limited resources.
		We don't know what the investigation is.
		It's totally possible that people looked into it and they were like, this is not going to bear fruit and we're not going to be able to get through this and get a solid conviction.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, yeah, sure, perjury convictions are notoriously difficult to get.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The punishment is absolutely, or the process is part of the punishment, but it just, those man hours may be needed more in something like this with Virginia.
		And I'm sure there are many other cases.
		People like this just slip through the cracks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, with the war and everything that's going on, it's becoming more and more clear.
		That Trump's midterm strategy is political and not popular.
		I don't mean he's not popular.
		I'm saying instead of targeting the vote, he's targeting the machine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really disturbing because that was what they were trying to do to him in 2020.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They were trying to arrest him so he couldn't run.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They did in 2020 to him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They tried to stop him from running by making him a felon, and they couldn't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And even if they had made him a felon, you might have seen a Julius Caesar moment where it's like, bro, what other choice do I have?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's where we're at right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And so, if they push the other side into that Julius Caesar moment, the other side might be like, What other choice do I have?
		So, like the lawfare tactic, the numbers don't decide how we live our lives.
		It's how people are, it's what they say, how they treat each other, and what they do.
		So, trying to write some crap in a book and say, Now I win is like, bro, that has failed a million times before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Four states unconstitutionally altered the rules of their election.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that Joe Biden could win.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And then they tried to sue.
		Other states tried to sue.
		People tried to sue.
		And the court shot it down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Supreme Court said, no, Alito and Thomas said we need to go over this.
		And the rest of the court said no because they're cowards.
		And you know what I think it really comes down to is in 2020, there was a bet made by prominent individuals, notably like Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, who could have sided with Alito and Thomas, but they would have needed one more Roberts and Gorsuch.
		And they said, which side do we want to be on?
		And they said, is Trump really capable of breaking the deep state?
		And they probably said to themselves, I don't think so.
		Let's not give Trump a win.
		They'll come after us.
		I mean, someone tried to kill Kavanaugh.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so they cowardly refused to take up a court case, a lawsuit filed.
		I want you to imagine how insane this is, right?
		Texas filed a suit against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and I can't remember the other state.
		It might have been North Carolina.
		And maybe not, but it's four states.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Was it Arizona, I think?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it Arizona?
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you may be correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can pull it up in a second.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if somebody came and kicked your dog.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Seriously injuring it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On camera, everybody watched it happen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And for the record, it was Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And they said it's okay.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Because it's COVID.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		And then you file a lawsuit for the medical bills, for the veterinary bills for your dog, and the court says no.
		And you go, I'm filing a lawsuit.
		Like, no.
		We're allowed to file lawsuits.
		You can sue a ham sandwich in this country.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what happened with Texas v. Pennsylvania.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Texas said, we are filing suit against Pennsylvania, and the only court that can hear it went, no.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, what?
		There's a lawsuit filed.
		You got to hear it.
		You can dismiss it.
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They just said, we're not going to hear it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Every court did it too, not just the Supreme Court, with a state level judicial consensus.
		Ron Coleman does a good job.
		I don't know if you've had him on your show.
unidentified		Of course.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, what happens then is they all made a bet.
		We are not going to let Trump, we do not believe Trump can defeat the deep state, and we do not want to get on the bad side of them.
		The only problem is Trump did, and he won in 2024.
		The way that Donald Trump lost in 2020, and he did lose, was through ballot harvesting.
		These states were sued because they unilaterally created universal mail in voting, despite the fact it was not legal and it was not constitutional.
		And in fact, not only in Pennsylvania was it federally unconstitutional, it was unconstitutional at the state level.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These lawsuits are to challenge that.
		Well, the courts refused to hear it.
		The universal mail in votes went into effect, and then Joe Biden ended up getting 80 million votes, which a lot of conservatives don't believe is possible.
		That's what happened.
		In 2024, they did not have that advantage because there was no lockdown.
		And Kamala Harris and Joe Biden were not going to be able to muster it.
		They were going to expend way too many resources.
		They did not have a good candidate.
		Trump gets in, and now Trump shattered USAID, shattered their source of funding, and they are desperate.
		And it is only going to get worse if they end up winning.
		That being said, I'm optimistic.
		The redistricting battle is in the GOP's core.
		I mean, Trump's advantage is tremendous in this.
		I don't see the Republicans losing right now.
unidentified		I don't.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm unsure.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm unsure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, losing the war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about this.
unidentified		Oh, right, right.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know about the midterms.
		I hope that all of this pays off.
		It's unfortunate that there are a lot of MAGA, populist, libertarian coalition people who are unhappy with decisions of the administration.
		I still want the administration to win.
		Like, we need it.
		It's an existential threat.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What does it look like when you say to win?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What does that look like?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Win the midterms.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Just a majority.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A majority in midterms is what you mean?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the most important thing is that the Republicans maintain control of the Senate.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You know, obviously, maintaining control of Congress.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's basically guaranteed the Senate.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Because there's a couple of kind of scary races right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but based on the current prediction markets and polling, Republicans are going to get 50 seats.
		So, that is, these are seats that don't just lean.
		These are, well, it's a little bit more than lean, right?
		They're likely.
		So there's your guaranteed red seats and your likely red seats, and then toss ups.
		If all of the toss ups go Democrat, JD Vance is still the tiebreaker.
		Republicans still hold the Senate.
		However, procedurally, I do think that Republicans are going to, are likely, I should say, to keep the House.
Republican Seats in Congress 00:04:07
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Do you think so?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, they're looking at gaining 12 seats right now.
		Currently, they're up seven.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Redistricting is, that's the thing that can just.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Republicans are up seven seats.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I will say on the war front, I don't think Trump cares about the polling.
		I think that the redistricting is enough to get him over the edge, regardless.
		Most people don't care.
		And I will also add that I believe the conversation around the war consists largely.
		The first thing I would say is it's all the first problem with the conversation on the war is lies make up a large portion, misunderstandings make up a small portion, and the truth makes it the tiniest portion of the conversation on the Iran war.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Just to add to the redistricting conversation, too, for a second, I know also people have been talking about the waning influence of the president apparently on the party.
		I know there are people in the wings of the party waiting to really pounce and try to claim the Republican Party for their own.
		But there was just a Republican primary held in Indiana yesterday.
		I don't know if you guys talked about it.
unidentified		We did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		On yesterday's show, where he flipped five or six.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Five of seven.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That was great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The people who opposed him all lost.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, state senators in Indiana who kind of bucked him when he said he wanted them to redistrict.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think it would have netted them another seat or two over there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story from NBC News Republicans unveil proposed congressional map that carves up Tennessee's lone Democrat district.
		That said, I mean, it barely has a Democrat district to begin with, but indeed, they have unveiled their map.
		But wait, there's more.
		Southern Republicans press ahead with election year redistricting of U.S. House despite protests.
		I don't know if I have the Mississippi one pulled up.
		No, no, we'll pull that one up in a second.
		But Mississippi is also preparing for the same thing.
		I do, however, have this beautiful, beautiful interactive map coded by our Claude friend over at Claude.ai.
		And you can see here, currently, this is what we're looking at.
		In effect, there are seven states that are currently in this battle.
		Two states are pending a decision this week Tennessee, their vote, and the Virginia appeal.
		There are five more states pushing, and if all of these resolve the way they're trying, there will be two Republican seats.
		However, Indiana may revive next year, which would trigger a swing for two more seats in 2028.
		Now, currently, I believe the Republicans are up seven seats.
		We don't know if Virginia is going to succeed.
		Virginia is being challenged, and the court may actually say, you can't do it, it's ridiculous.
		Tennessee likely will succeed.
		And then you can see we have a bunch of other states.
		So the battle is on, and Maryland actually has voted for a 9 0 map.
		They moved forward despite the fact the scumbags.
		You want to know why the Republicans in Indiana lost?
		They cut a deal with Maryland.
		We won't redistrict.
		You don't redistrict.
		How does that sound?
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Maryland was like, sounds good to us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Republicans then voted not to, and the Democrats voted to do it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Of course they did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		However, in the Senate, I believe in the state Senate, they say, Senate President Bill Ferguson refused to bring it to a vote despite it passing 99 to 37.
		Rep Raskin, overwhelming sentiment now is for Maryland to join Virginia and California.
		Ferguson faces a primary challenge from Bobby LePine, described as close.
		If Ferguson loses, the map likely revives quickly.
		So, oh boy.
		Now, here's what gets really interesting.
		If all of the states are forced to redistrict as per the DOJ's rules, New Jersey gains a Republican seat, Pennsylvania gains two Republican seats.
		We're looking at like a 12 to 15 seat swing if Harmeet Dillon comes in with the hammer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Does that indicate that the majority of the country is Republican?
unidentified		Yes.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Harmeet Dillon is a human hammer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's amazing.
		So I'm being somewhat, I mean, it's not a yes, but I will say the plurality was Republican.
		And I will say this When you say, is the majority of the country Republican, what do you mean by the country?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The borders of the 50 states.
Immigrants and Voting Rights 00:02:49
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would argue that with 10 to 20 million illegal immigrants, they are neither Democrat nor Republican.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so we have a spattering.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you include those people in it, then no, the majority of people aren't Republican because we have a bunch of people who are foreigners, immigrants, legal immigrants, but who don't care, and people who vote Democrat for free stuff.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So, on a net level, I think in the upcoming election, the Democrats will net receive more votes, but depending on how they're spread out across the country is how the seats are allocated.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So, they'll run up numbers in particular cities, and that's why they'll have more net votes, but they won't net as many seats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, the question is Is this nation largely Republican?
		The answer is yes, 100%.
		If you go to a Democrat, you know, like you've got this Pramila Jayapal or whatever going and she's trying to coordinate with Russia and other countries to bypass US sanctions on Cuba, which is insane.
		You know, I don't consider these people to be a part of a nation.
		A nation is not just a border, it is a border and its people.
		And when you ask the question of who Americans really are, I would argue that many of the older generation have done a disservice to this country in allowing non Americans to come and take up residence en masse in this country.
		And subvert the will of Americans.
		And so, what I mean to say is, I hate the term heritage American.
		Just say American.
		Don't qualify that you're an American.
		And we talked about this yesterday.
		Call the people who are here paperwork Americans.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That works.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		These are, so my point is this: technicalities.
		If you come here legally as a migrant and fill out all the paperwork and then take the test and pass that test, you're great.
		You're an American.
		I'm fine with that.
		However, when policies are created to speed, give the fast pass to H-1Bs.
		And they lie, cheat, and steal to do it.
		They claim, you know what these companies do?
		They'll put an ad in the newspaper saying, we're hiring.
		And then when no one answers, the newspaper classified says, I guess we have no choice but to hire from India.
		Because the H 1Bs require that you try to hire Americans first.
		This is, in my opinion, fraud.
		This is fraudulent.
		So I don't consider those people to be legal migrants.
		I consider it to be fraud.
		Now, the problem is we have people with the right to vote in this country who are not.
		Legal Americans, they used a fraudulent scheme to come into this country, and they are now subverting the will of the people.
		Most importantly, Zorhan Mamdani, who argued in his campaign, despite the fact that the plurality of voters, the popular vote said, we want immigration enforced, he said he will do everything in his power to protect illegal immigrants from the will of the American voter.
		That is not an American.
		I'm sorry, I'm putting it like this The American people all go vote, and they say, let's do away with bad thing.
Silk Road Illicit Activities 00:14:11
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guy steps up and says, I'm going to make sure bad thing stays.
		And I'm like, okay, that is a guy who opposes the will of the American people.
		He does not count.
		That's Zorhan Mamdani.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's like a WEF citizen.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They want globally homogenous populations across the world ruled by bureaucratic NGOs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I half agree with that, except for the fact that it only affects Europe and the United States and like the Western countries, the British Empire.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They're not really worried about anywhere else because that's not where they view wealth and power.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not worried about him yet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I suppose.
		You know, if it says anything about the average woke person's inability to comprehend reality, it would make sense that the Davos group people also can't.
		And they don't understand that implementing these things just breaks the system and then China takes over.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No idea.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Naive and incredibly narcissistic.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's crazy that they want to centralize power in the corporations where it's like, bro, local governments and like dudes with rifles in their houses is what keeps this country safe.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Corporations, NGOs, you know, these like.
		Extra governmental regulatory bodies.
		Like that was one of the best things that this administration has done pulling out of the WHO.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's a bunch of things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		TPP.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of this weird give China everything policy that's been going on for 30 years.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Listen to bureaucrats from other countries on how we should run our health care.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Get out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The UN is kind of like that, too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Unelected.
unidentified		Strange.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's unelected.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I was going to pivot and ask you I know there's been some consternation among libertarian MAGA types.
		You invited the president to speak at the last libertarian convention that you guys held.
		What do you think about how he's been governing?
		And are you disappointed as a libertarian minded person in his administration?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm ecstatic that we got any concessions or wins.
		I think it's amazing.
		We have had, for over 50 years, our party at the federal level has had zero wins.
		Nothing.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He reminded you of that too in his speech.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Freed Ross Ulbricht.
		Yeah.
		I mean, I reminded them of it, you know, every day when we're sitting in stupid meetings.
		We got Ross Ulbricht freed.
		He put Kennedy in the cabinet as a cabinet secretary.
		And everybody was like, oh, we're hoping it was more libertarian, libertarian.
		Kennedy's a lifetime member of the LP.
		We just got two things.
		We went from zero to two.
		And that's like the hardest thing to do is to go from like zero to one.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you more about that lobbying effort in regard to Ross Albrecht for people who don't know?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think he was one of the managers or owners originally of the Silk Road.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's the architect of the Silk Road.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The architect of the Silk Road.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		This was a, what is it, the dark internet or what have you?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's a dark website.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		A dark website where they were mostly selling drugs and stuff.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think they sold surfboards and other things.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		A majority of what people went there to sell.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		But it was basically like a Craigslist.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Um, no, more like a Yelp.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I guess I wanted people to understand why he went to prison originally.
unidentified		Can you tell me about IDs?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, can you tell me about the lobbying effort to get him out?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Sure, so I mean, it wasn't lobbying, you know, there were people who were friends with President Trump who reached out to me and said, The president wants to talk to you about how to get the vote.
		How do we get the libertarian vote?
		So I had a meeting with Rick Grinnell, who's also a phenomenal, phenomenal person, who was not on the Trump campaign but was a friend of President Trump's former director, acting director of national intelligence in his first term.
		He met with us and was like, What do the libertarians think about President Trump?
		And I, unlike almost every other libertarian on the face of the planet, was very diplomatic in my answers.
		And I said, We love that he started no new wars in that term.
		We're not like real crazy about the drone strikes on Soleimani thing.
		That was a little, but we're very sympathetic to him with how the justice system has been weaponized against him.
		And we hope he wins and beats all of that.
		And it was like, Oh, that was a good answer.
		So we met, and it was like, Trump actually called me, you know, on someone else's phone, passed the phone to me, and I spoke with him for about 45 minutes.
		And he's like, How do I get the vote?
		I want to get the vote.
		I got to get the libertarian vote that Joe Jorgensen, she cost me the vote.
		She cost me the vote.
		She got 5%.
		And I was like, She got like 1.2%.
		You know, I was like, She got 1.2%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And also, real quick, just it's this weird Republican assumption.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They just are guaranteed libertarian votes.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		And as we have learned, there's a bunch of like less gender furry libertarians.
		There's also just uneducated protest votes.
		And that does eat into it.
		But anyway, you know, I was like, yeah, let me think about it.
		I'm happy to share with you.
		Like, as the chair of another political party, I can't just like get you on our ballot or just like make it so or put out an official endorsement.
		But I want you to be more libertarian.
		This is a win win, you know?
		And so I met with him at Mar a Lago two weeks later and I was thinking about, like, you know, I've been thinking the whole time, how do I, what do I ask?
		You know, it's like, what does every libertarian want?
		They want to end the Fed, you know, abolish the IRS.
		I'm like, but he can't do that.
		He's one person.
unidentified		What can he do?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He can free Ross Ulbricht.
		And so I asked that, and he just went, Who's Ross Ulbricht?
		I'll do it.
unidentified		I'll free him.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Even knowing who he was, he said, I'll that's burned into my memory.
		He said, I'll walk out on stage and I'll say, Free Russ Ulbricht, mic drop.
		I love freeing people.
		And I was like, This is like, I was like sweating bullets.
		I was stressed.
		I think the only person I asked the opinion of it for was like Michael Malice, Lynn Ulbricht.
		His mother had no idea.
		She had Ross had no idea.
		His wife had no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love freeing people.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I was like, sweating bullets.
		And he's just like, Yeah, whatever.
		You know, what do you think about weed?
		He asked my husband, Have you ever smoked marijuana?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You saw he just rescheduled the whole thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he was doing a press conference after getting elected, and he was asked about pardoning Ross Ulbricht.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's like, I don't know who he is, but I promised I'd do it, so I did.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
		So, and on that.
		I'm trying to ask the administration to get some more Bitcoiners out of prison right now.
unidentified		Wow.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		So, samurai wallet developers, hardcore libertarians, but well behaved, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think one of the problems you guys are having right now is aside from the fact the party is half gay communists, now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of the sane half, it's just Israel posters.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the sane half.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, like, not all of the sane half has become Israel posters, but many of them are just Israel posters.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's a problem.
		It's a huge problem.
		You know, what I've wanted the party to do, especially the Mises Caucus, is like, don't give up on peaceful foreign policy.
		But we have to look at like a variety of issues.
		MAHA issues, a lot of them, not every MAHA issue, but a lot of them matter.
		They're things that we can win on.
		They're things that we 100% agree with.
		Tennessee LP has done a great job of working with MAHA.
		Bitcoin.
		They're almost all libertarians.
		You know, Ian Freeman is still sitting in prison.
		I believe he's been moved to West Virginia, actually.
		He's from New Hampshire.
		He served eight years for operating an unlicensed Bitcoin ATM.
		He's still serving the time, which was a regulatory gray area at the time.
		Regulatory gray area.
		Federal government hated it.
		Eight years.
		How many murderers have gone, like, basically been released at this point?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why aren't these guys getting pardoned?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, because there are things like the Iran war.
		All the things that we're covering, a weaponization of it, everything is competing for number one.
		So I think that the administration is likely to pardon them.
		There's just like literally five or six people on my list.
		I mean, I've got like 60 people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can these libertarians understand you do not have the cards to win ending Iran or Middle Eastern war, but you do have the cards to get these people out of prison?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Some of them do, and some of them are getting it.
		So I'm like, how about instead of screaming at me, That I'm taking $7,000 for not posting about Israel.
		It's just the height of absurdity.
		$7,000 for not, you know, like they're like, you're Israel, you're a Jew.
		I'm like, McArdle.
		I'm literally not a Jew, but whatever.
		Like instead of being total tards, why don't we focus on getting like Keone and Ian and Roman out of prison?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just to bring people to the point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And more importantly, just getting precedent on these laws in the first place.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Affecting things we can affect.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Which also, by the way, like this is, if you're angry about the Federal Reserve and all this stuff, How about we back this alternate financial system and make sure that it's welcome in the United States so the whole industry doesn't move to El Salvador?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which is stupid.
		Who are these guys you want to get pardoned?
		These five dudes?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Ian Freeman, Roman Storm.
		He has not gone to prison yet.
		And you can read about all of them on cryptoprisoners.com.
		They all have petitions and stuff.
		Roman Sterlingov, he is sitting in prison.
		This poor dude got 12 years for operating allegedly the Bitcoin fog wallet.
		And he didn't even do it.
		It's just insane.
		It's a mixer.
unidentified		Sorry.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Um, So, Ian, Roman, Roman, Keone Rodriguez, and William Hill, and they're of the Samurai Wallet.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So, they started like wallets and non custodial software.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Non custodial.
		What's, what's not even a gray area?
		Finson said that they were okay.
		Like they did actually go through most of them and get permission on everything.
unidentified		Yeah, that's a lot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they literally just created a non custodial wallet.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Non custodial, never touched a dollar from anyone else.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Rumble's got one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's called the Rumble Wallet.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and got guidance from Finson.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You're not leaving anything out?
unidentified		No.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, I need to look into these cases.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If she was a Democrat, it would turn out they were all pedophiles or something, but she's not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's a libertarian.
unidentified		So it turns out they're all lying.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I understand too because the way people would characterize Ross's case was different than the way you would characterize it as well.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So that's why I'm trying to understand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would say that they're liars.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That there are like 60.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, he helped facilitate drug dealing.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		On his website.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, like, he had a website where people did drug trafficking, right?
unidentified		Let's be clear.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He facilitated the drug trafficking via his website, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He did not, no.
unidentified		Incorrect.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He wouldn't have been able to be trafficked without his website.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He made a website.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's like, imagine if Craigslist got arrested because we know that underage prostitutes are on Craigslist.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Imagine eBay got away with selling, like, you were selling drugs on eBay and they allowed you to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a great point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if they went and arrested the CEO of eBay because someone's allowed.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Is eBay allowing drugs to be sold?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Section 230 protects these companies.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		How about Facebook?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Allow people to say drugs on their platform.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, when, when, uh, what was that website with the CISA backdoor?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Back, back, back pages.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Back page.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did they arrest the founders of Back page and criminally charge them for sex trafficking?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think actually, after a while, they threatened to and then they shut it down, but they didn't serve any time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue, the issue is eBay and Craigslist, people commit crimes on these platforms and they're not arresting the CEOs of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, eBay's what you normally do as a company, you come to them and you say, hey, Your website is being used for that.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember all of the details, but I also recall that he was involved in like a murder for hire plot.
		I want to get all the details out because I don't want to misquote this thing specifically.
		But there are other details in these.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that was fake and that was not part of it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It was all dropped and there were no charges brought on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't the only charges fake IDs or something?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It was like a whole poison the well situation where they bring nasty charges against you.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And then you don't want to leave anything out in these important cases.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		All right, so let me tell you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will clarify to be fair, the website had a high density.
		Of illicit activity.
		But I want to stress about Kim.com as well.
		Kim.com operated a file locker, mega upload, in what was it, the late 2000s?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Late 2000s.
		This website was intended for, at launch, I can store things online like Google Drive, and then I can download them from anywhere.
		It was one of the first iterations of cloud computing.
		People started uploading copyrighted material to it.
		Kim.com, who has never set foot in the United States, got takedown notices and says, You got it.
		The only problem is, too many people were, it was a hive, it was a swarm of piracy.
		So when they went to him and said, Take it down, he would say, We will take down anything you want.
		The problem is, he's not American.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are too many people pirating.
		They can't stop all of it.
		They need to shut his company down, but can't.
		So what do they do?
		Locked him up, raided his house in the middle of the night, put him in jail in New Zealand.
		It was a Hong Kong based company, and he had never been in the United States, and the US and New Zealand raided him.
		Charged in.
		And I don't think he's ever had a day in prison.
		But the argument that because he operated a legitimate website, because there's too much bad stuff going on, is absurd considering tons of other user generated content websites have the same thing going on.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Facebook has human trafficking and sex trafficking of children.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And Zuckerberg.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know what's funny?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When Instagram got called out for it, they had like an internal meeting and just like, oh, we better not say anything about it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Guys, I don't know.
		Are we beating around the bush here?
		I used the Silk Road at one point.
		I know what the Silk Road is.
		It was almost 100% used for drugs.
		People weren't buying other things off of the Silk Road.
		And it was a critical thing.
		What else do you think people would want to see?
		I'm pretty sure I thought Silk Road.
		No, and these other websites like Facebook, although there might be some trafficking there, that's not what the platforms are generally used for.
		I think why libertarians had an affinity for Albrecht and the Silk Road was because it embodied libertarian ideals of free markets.
		So, like, the big deal is also a big deal.
		Let's have a second.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was overcharged.
		They charge him with kingpin status.
		He served 10 years for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, hold on.
		I want to make sure we have the facts correct.
		The purpose of the Silk Road was so that people could use cryptocurrencies to trade things first.
		Many people, because they were able to use crypto, they set up illicit shops where it's like, buy this mystical white powder.
		Everyone knows cocaine, right?
		So, people were using it for illicit activities largely.
		But again, the purpose of the site is so if I have Bitcoin and I want to buy something, I can list it here because you can't do that on eBay or anywhere else.
		I also want to stress I don't know if this theory is true or if Ross has ever commented on it, but one of the initial theories is that he's actually not the person who started the website nor the person who made this happen.
		And that's why his moniker on the site was Dread Pirate Roberts, that he had simply been handed an admin status from the person who made the website and they went after him because they needed someone to pin it on.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And, or there were multiple Dread Pirate Roberts.
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angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Now, about these guys.
		I'm going to tell you that I've got a list of like 60 plus people who are likely deserving of pardons and have been grossly overcharged andor innocent.
		But these guys have been through their criminal files, been through spoken with their attorneys, spoken with their wives, not guilty, shouldn't be in prison.
		Big difference.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To bring it all together, and where you're going to agree, Eladis, the libertarians have become hyper obsessed with the Iran war, and I don't blame many of them.
		I'm always a fan and friend of Dave Smith.
		I think he's smart.
		I think he's charismatic.
		I think he hits his points perfectly in a way that makes you laugh, and I respect him for it.
		But there are a lot of people that seem disingenuous and they are not approaching this political.
		I don't want to necessarily say the whole party because you do have the gay communists in there.
		They're not approaching their capability as a faction honorably or in a way that is effective.
		You're not going to go to Trump.
		Call him a traitor, a tyrant, a warmonger, and expect any kind of, let's just say, consideration.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Right, which is why I don't do it.
		And they're so angry about it.
		We are going to advance asymmetrically.
		I've said to them over and over again, publicly, privately, in meetings guys, we're not going to get foreign policy.
		I know that that's like you care so much about it.
		And like it's a good and worthy thing to care about, but there are so many other things.
		Smaller things more in line with our voting block size that we could get, and we should use exercise diplomacy and we should get those things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do love this though.
		I gotta say this for Dave and for Tucker Donald Trump took 100 to 160 million from Miriam Adelson, and it was reported far and wide.
		The purpose was she expected Trump to help facilitate the annexation of the West Bank.
		That's what all the reporters at the time, 100 to 160 million dollars in pro Trump PACs and super PACs to help him win.
		And it was reported as a quid pro quo because she is pro Israel.
		Tucker and Dave both knew that when they supported it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knew that.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Israel didn't annex Judea and Samaria.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So it looks like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point is, Mia Madison said, I want these efforts and I'll support you if you're behind me.
		And Trump reportedly, again, I don't know exactly what the deal was, but he was like, we'll do it.
		We can.
		And so.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's not the position of the administration, for the record, to allow the Israelis to take over Judea and Samaria.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anyone's doing anything about it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I understand, though, that they are.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that anybody should be surprised that the president is pro Israel.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I wasn't surprised by that going in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
		He killed Soleimani.
		There's no way these people who are like, oh my God, I can't believe he did this, did not know it was a possibility.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's okay to disagree.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Let's advocate for a second here, Angelo, though.
		I completely understand why so many in the Libertarian Party were ticked off because, you know, the resurgence of the party was really based off of the back of Ron Paul.
		And I feel like this is really indicative or downstream from Ron Paul's foreign policy.
		All the rest of this stuff was kind of extra.
		A lot of these guys centrally appreciated Ron Paul's foreign policy.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's what I.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I want to stress the point back to the point I was making when I said, I would say the majority of the conversation on the war is intentional lies, followed by misunderstanding.
		Every time I watch these analyses or assessments, largely from the anti war faction, of which I have largely been in my title of anti intervention, and even this war I question.
		But I don't sit here and go, well, I was opposed to rock and Afghanistan for legitimate reasons we had learned over a decade, and now I'm going to just say Iran has been.
		No, no, no, hold on.
		The question is, what is Trump doing?
		What is the U.S. doing?
		Why are they doing it?
		And it's difficult to understand.
		What I can say, at least, is this.
		When the people come out and they're saying, and now Trump is flip flopping, he doesn't know what he's doing, I'm like, okay, you're lying.
		Listen, he moved on Venezuela, he moved on Cuba, he took money from Mary Madelson.
		We know that there is some structure behind what he's doing with the Strait of Hormuz.
		And so the question needs to be who benefits?
		What is the current result of the war with Iran?
		And all I end up seeing, or I should say for the most part, from the most prominent people, is Trump made a mistake entering the war because Israel made him do it, and now he's floundering.
		And I'm sitting here being like, Then why did he go after Venezuela first?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Can I also say that he was, President Trump was tweeting about Iran, how they can't have nukes and this, that, and beyond, you know, things that were basically not pro Iran back in 20?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I say it's a lie because Tucker comes out and is like, I can't believe he would do this.
		And then his brother immediately goes, maybe that money from Miriam Adelson meant something.
		And he goes, and it's like, yeah, Tucker, because you knew the whole time.
		And now he's pretending like he didn't.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		So, to your point, Ilan, you know, there are groups within the Libertarian Party that are holding an anti war rally in connection with the Libertarian National Convention.
		It's going to be Sunday, May 24th.
		I'm not organizing it, but it does exist.
		It's another Rage Against the War machine, smaller scale.
		Scott Horton will be speaking, Dan McKnight, a handful of other speakers, and people who want to support it can go to tinyurl.com forward slash rage rapids.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Can I?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I hope they have a great time with Scotty.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And if I can't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go for it, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		These are some of my best friends in politics I want to talk about too, but go.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think these are some of the worst people in politics because of what they're willing to do.
		One of the things that animates my politics most is really a hatred for the left beyond anything else.
		And time and time again, I see, I think of the Libertarian Party and libertarians as a Trojan horse for the left.
		And why is it this?
		They're used as useful idiots for communists and leftists, frankly.
		Angela, you've been willing.
unidentified		A lot, a lot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Half of them are gay communists.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And then the others that aren't are willing to ally with them, which is disgusting and horrible and gross.
		Angela, you've had a history of this, though, because at prior age against the machine or war machine, you guys have gladly worked with communists and like, I don't use Russian propagandists lightly, but like literal Russian propagandists.
		And, like, the fact that you guys were able to.
unidentified		But, like, who?
unidentified		Who?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Like, Jackson Hinkle, for example, spoke at your.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think he's a Russian propagandist now.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I didn't think that then.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you guys were useful idiots for him back then, and you guys were also useful idiots.
unidentified		No, no, no.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, you guys should have better foresight, and you guys should have.
unidentified		How?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, definitely.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You should ally with people you don't agree with.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You should ally with communists.
unidentified		You absolutely should.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If that will win you the war.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Americans did take World War II, bro.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Should they not have?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So, I shouldn't work with communists.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe communists are ever right, and I don't think we should ever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So, if you could change the history, you'd say the Americans should not have allied with the Soviet Union to defeat the Nazis.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		We didn't need to.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What the hell does that mean?
		We didn't need to.
		Wait, What's going on in the Western Front, bro?
unidentified		Okay, wait, wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, hold on.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Let me tee this up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I also don't agree that we should have allied with the Soviets because we ended up with a Cold War and it was a disaster.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It would have been a Nazi planet if we didn't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it would not have.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Of course it would have been.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Russians were getting grounded in pieces.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		They bailed out the Soviet Union.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They were dying on the front in mass aggressions.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They bailed out the Soviet Union.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Looking at World War II, it's not so easy to say.
		Let me put it this way.
		There were people protesting.
		What was it?
		There was a protest outside some anti communist thing.
		They were protesting that the communists saved us from the Nazis.
		And it's like bad guys were fighting each other, I guess.
		We should not have aligned ourselves with the communists.
		We can fight the Nazis and let them do their thing and get flattened.
		In fact, we could have let them crush each other and then pick up the scraps.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, they were allies for this?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Okay.
		So let's.
		Okay, so let's not get all worked up over communists.
		Let's look at an objective, let's look at political strategy and see the trajectory of the whole thing and pull our feelings out of it for a moment.
		Angela sets up Rage Against the War Machine.
		Who do we have speaking there?
		Tulsi Gabbard, Ron Paul, Jimmy Dore, a bunch of people on the left and the right.
		Dennis Kucinich.
		We invited Kennedy.
		He was doing his book tour, unavailable.
		We had basically his future campaign manager there.
		Angela, Angela, Shortly afterwards, very diplomatically, politely, just sort of let some of those connections go.
		No names, you know, but holds on to the rest of them.
		Angela sets up Rescue the Republic.
		Who comes, you know, there?
		Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, also Jimmy Dore.
		We did have someone there who was critical of Israel.
		What are they doing there?
		Essentially rallying for President Trump and the coalition.
		Who gets elected?
		Not just President Trump, but also his coalition.
		Kennedy, Tulsi, you know, all of the people that we wanted made it in.
		What was the beginning of Rescue the Republic?
		It was Defeat the Mandates, which Brett Weinstein and Matt Toon did, and Rage Against the War Machine.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but now Rage Against the War Machine helped President Trump get to the war machine as a pro Trump rally.
		I think it's crazy.
		And I think Rage Against the War Machine.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I didn't say, no, no, no.
		You're way oversimplifying it.
		You have to look at like political plays and adopt a more long term strategy.
		And that's what I did.
		And I delivered results.
		I have zero regrets.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think the communists were so willing to work with you guys?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Because hardly anybody ever is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, because they oppose the interventions.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, because they're useful idiots for the left, in my opinion.
		They know that you guys bleed away.
		I don't mean personally.
		I'm talking about the party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I can address what you just said.
		There are special interests that exist, there's millions of them.
		They have agendas and would like to accomplish those agendas.
		There will often be two groups that largely oppose each other that seemingly align on a core issue towards their agendas.
		The reason the communists are anti war is not the same reason that I or Angela may be anti war, but if it stops these interventions, then we're both happy temporarily.
unidentified		Sure.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I guess my values and priorities never align with the communists.
		And I wish you guys could say the same, Tim.
		I don't know if you'd be willing to work with communists.
unidentified		I don't know about communists as Angela.
unidentified		Yes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You've got to think politics.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't be.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because as a political leader, you can't say, I'll never ally with X. You have to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not that Illad.
		It's that one day a guy walks up and you're holding a sign that says something like, you know, let's just say, lower taxes 5%.
		And the guy walks up and he sees your sign and he goes, I'll stand with you, brother.
		And you go, thanks.
		And then afterwards he goes, I'm a communist, by the way.
		And you go, oh, oh, oh, I should have had better foresight.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, there is.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So I think lowering, if you believe in lowering taxes, but if you're also for training the kids, if you're also a card carrying member of the DSA, if you want to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does that have to do with passing?
		Like, let's say that there is a proposition.
		Let's say there's a proposition in your state that says something like, we are going to stop spending money on just, I'm going to give you on widgets.
		It's a hypothetical.
		You find out that there's a bunch of money being phoned to widget companies.
		That's a waste of money.
		Then you say, I need people to sign this so we stop.
		Wasting this money, and you get a bunch of signatures.
		The proposition passes, they cut the funding, and then you find out a lot.
		Every signature was a communist.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
		That's the difference, though.
		I'm not willing to build a coalition with people, even if they may agree with me on lowering taxes, are communists, believe in abortion until the day of birth, believe in sex chains for minors.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And you're going to lose.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not going to lose, actually, because I think the country's against it.
		And they didn't just vote with the communists, they held a rally with them.
		They didn't have to hold a rally with them.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And I think this helps normalize.
unidentified		Yes, I did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		To finish my point, I think this helps normalize communism in our country.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And communism is still a grave threat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The Democratic Socialists of America is still a grave threat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We all agree you're not making a point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're the guy in the meme in the corner of the room at the party going, they don't know that I oppose communism.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, everyone's standing in the libertarian party.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You guys are the meme who harp the Democrats.
		Oh, we're not going to support the Republican.
		You're just saying it.
		You're going to support the third party.
		No, there's the dumb, like, oh, I'm a libertarian.
		I'm so smart.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, you said you're not going to support the third party.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You're just making a point.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And then the Democrats are going to.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		But I literally helped to.
		President Trump gets elected, so all of your concerns are just.
		Yeah, you should say they're not valid.
unidentified		I understand.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think the Bucks County.
		I don't think you guys should toot your horn that much.
		I think the Libertarian vote was irrelevant in this campaign.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's no way.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I know the data better than you, my friend.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Okay, even if he lost Pennsylvania, he still would have won the election.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So, how's that feeling?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and it was the same in many other states.
unidentified		If he lost Pennsylvania, he still would have won, right?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		If he lost Pennsylvania, he would have won the election.
unidentified		Sure.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's not just the win, it's the way he won.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He put Kennedy in his.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Magnanimous.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's the revolution.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's a fantastic win.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think it's nice.
		A lot of people like to take credit for the president's win.
		I think the president's responsible for his win.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was all of us.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And communism is what animates the whole thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was everyone that spoke for him and voted for him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We all did it together.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It was a coalition effort.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Coalition.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So I think.
unidentified		Let me say this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you're saying no, I wouldn't alley.
		I think you're coming from a position of privilege personally right now because you live in America.
		All your needs are met.
		If it's war, if it's real war, you don't have the opportunity to say, I won't ally with them because of their ideology.
		If they're willing to fight with you.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's an even worse case.
		I don't want to fight an ally with communists because they'll take over after and then I'll be assisting the Soviet Union.
		They would make you a useful individual.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay, guys, guys, I have a question.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The American liberal economic order destroyed it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The USSR took over a lot of countries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a question for Elon.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It took 80 years for the Soviet Union.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It took millions of lives, millions of innocent lives to be killed before the Soviet Union.
unidentified		Yes, and I'm not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you want the Republicans to win the midterms?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You need to get votes across the board, and everyone in politics knows this.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Are you naive enough to think communists are going to be the ones voting for you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I did not say communists would.
		I said there's going to be many disparate political factions, many of which are aligned against you, but on singular issues may actually vote for your candidate.
		So if the Libertarian Party can give a 1% edge, that secures many toss up districts for the Republicans.
		Why would you be like, you guys work with communists, so I think you're bad and get out of here?
		They'll go, okay.
		We'll go vote for the Democrat, I guess.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Tim, you're so naive.
		I think they're already spoilers in these elections.
		They're already doing that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think that libertarians are conservatives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think that they're more conservative than liberal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong.
		You're completely wrong.
		This is what I can't stand about Republicans.
		They're like the traditional conservative Republican guys go, the Libertarian Party just dissolves, they can all vote conservative.
		I'm like, have you met one of these people?
		They want to smoke pot on a beach and trade hot dogs and Bitcoin and buy drugs.
		They're not conservatives.
		They're pro choice.
		They're not voting for Republicans.
		The Mises Caucus was an exception with the Libertarian Party.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are trying.
		This is what politicians do they go up on stage and they wear a specific tie with a specific shoe.
		You guys got to watch The Adjustment Bureau with Matt Damon.
		It's a great film.
		He's got a political consultant, and he explains how they told him, You got to wear nice shoes, but they can't be too nice.
		They got to be scuffed up a little bit because otherwise you'll alienate the working class.
		But you don't have nice shoes, you look unprofessional because they're trying to maximize the lowest common denominator to get as many votes possible.
		What you're describing is just nonsense.
		No one in politics would agree with you.
		Anybody working for any consulting or political action committee is going to be like, This guy's an idiot.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		What specifically, Tim?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's literally a group called MAGA Communists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You would not work with people.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		MAGA Communists, it's an oxymoron.
		You could say whatever you want on the internet, it doesn't make it a real thing.
		I don't think there's a serious MAGA communist constituency just because some idiot on Twitter tweets about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to answer your question.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On the issue of a proposition that you want passed, and you have various NGOs and political actors funding it, you will often find, depending, there's going to be a leftist group and a libertarian group that agree.
		A conservative group might agree sometimes with libertarians as well, and they're all fighting to maximize their votes to get a law or proposition through.
		This means that someday you'll be like, Really?
		The communists and the libertarians actually, the tankies are agreeing with communists on this one issue?
		How strange.
		But guess what?
		If it passes, then you're happy.
		You will not win elections unless you are willing to find votes wherever they can be.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		100%.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think Republicans could win elections without trying to curry favor with communists.
		And I hope, you know, we continue to prosecute, frankly.
		We should disenfranchise communists in our country and not try to involve them more in our political process.
		I genuinely believe that.
		And that's why I was so.
		Disgusted, frankly, with what the Libertarian Party was doing because when I was younger, I feel like I had an affinity for libertarians.
		I feel like a lot of small government conservatives, when they're younger, you know, you like guns, you smoke a little pot, you don't think gay people are the absolute worst thing in the world.
		And you could have an affinity for it.
		You know, you might say, hey, these foreign wars, maybe we shouldn't be involved as much.
		And you know, you grow an affinity.
		Then, you know, you think, hey, maybe the libertarians aren't that bad.
		Then you grow up and you see what they're actually doing in the real world and how they're willing to ally with really the worst people and then, you know, try to impact change.
		The rage against the machine rally was so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That you missed.
		They didn't ally with the worst people.
		They allied with American communists.
		The worst people in the world would like cut people open and poop in them and stuff.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The worst people are American communists.
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		Killing people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, Not the Chinese ones.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The American.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The American communists.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The American cannibals.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's a domestic rally, Angela.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What were you saying?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think that was a fantastic rally.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I also think that the cause was absolutely legitimate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The United States shouldn't have been playing the game against platform communists and Russian propaganda.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think happened?
		I'm just imagining, like, You know, Elad's at a club and he's like, got a drink, and he walks up to some girl and he's like, hey, I'm Elad.
		And she goes, no, thank you.
		And she turns on and grabs Hassan Piker's arm.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And he's just like, these communists, you know, I think, taking everything.
		Because libertarianism works, I think, domestically very well, but not geopolitically because war is a very important part of our survival.
		And like, anti war makes no sense to me anymore.
		I used to be like, end the wars.
		That's not how the world works.
		Aggressive men want to take.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's first ordered thinking.
		I'm not anti intervention or anti war because I'm like, war is bad.
		I'm like, the strategy implemented by the United States military industrial complex and NATO in Afghanistan and Iraq.
		Was an abysmal failure.
		Their attempt at nation building over 20 years was clearly not going to work with a bunch of mountain dwelling goat herders like it did in South Korea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		At the cost we paid, we set up a staging area to defeat Iran.
		So maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong.
		I don't know.
		But now we have Iran by the nuts.
		We have Israel with nuclear weapons pointed at every country in the Middle East.
		It's basically like we're winning the world war.
		So, no, Afghanistan was an abject failure.
		I'm sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Afghanistan was abject failure.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it was pretty rough.
		It was a horrible, horrible thing to me in a lot of ways.
		But it became the reality.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was obvious from the get go that these strategies were insane.
		And I'm not saying that because I'm like, Why are people throwing rocks at each other?
		No, I'm like, wait, you mean we're going to commit hundreds of billions of dollars to try and convert Afghanistan into South Korea?
		Have you looked at these people?
		They can't do jumping jacks.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They don't know what cities are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, but have you seen the video of the Iraqis trying to do jumping jacks?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not called jumping jacks, it's like a military term for it.
		And they're going like this.
		I'll pull it up.
		I'll pull it up.
		And look, South Korea, Koreans are intelligent people.
		They're very intelligent, actually rated as second highest IQs on average.
		The U.S. occupied South Korea.
		For generations.
		We're going on almost 70 years.
		This created an Americanized population.
		They are capitalists.
		They are business.
		They run business.
		Samsung is their biggest economic driver.
		And you can look at South Korea and go, these people are intelligent and very capable.
		You go to Afghanistan and you're like, you think you're going to pull off a South Korea here?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, they just wanted the land.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They didn't really care about the people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The lithium, the land, et cetera.
		But they tried to nation build.
		And the strategy was, you need three generations to turn these people into westernized.
		You know, a liberal democracy nation.
		I don't mean like liberal American.
		I mean the idea of like a Western nation.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You were never going to pull that off.
		These people operate under this weird blank slate assumption that these goat herders who live in mountains could adapt to this, could be developed rapidly.
		It didn't make sense.
		It was a failed operation.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, as for Iran, there is a wholly different question.
		As I've said before, I am skeptical.
		I don't know that it's going to play out the way we want it to, but the question is, Why are we doing it and what can we understand about it?
		Now, this is where I can go to many of these libertarians.
		I don't believe they're being honest.
		I see this commentary where they're like, Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
		Trump's an idiot.
		And I'm like, well, first of all, Trump probably doesn't know what he's doing because he's not the one running this.
		And it's probably not Hegzeth either.
		It's probably a large military and intelligence apparatus.
		When you take a look at what's going on with this war, again, Afghanistan was not there hired in Osama bin Laden.
		No, it was nation building and it was a pincer strike on Iran.
		Similarly with Iraq.
		But Saddam Hussein wanted to trade oil in Euro.
		So we said, He's a threat to the system.
		I shouldn't say we, it was the old liberal economic order.
		Right now, the U.S. made a move on Venezuela, seized the oil, surrounded Cuba, and then struck Iran, closing the Strait of Hormuz.
		The U.S. has inadvertently, I guess it's a surface level argument, kept the Strait closed, choking out China's principal source of energy and driving up the U.S. as a mass oil exporter and displaced OPEC with the UAE now leaving OPEC.
		This is a tremendous boon to Western oil production.
		That is not to say it was intentional.
		I don't know.
		But the conversations around the war never bring up the long tail in this conflict.
		So it's not a simple question of war is bad.
		It's a question of what are we doing and why are we doing it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, with Clint Russell, particularly, who is great, one of my best friends, actually, said he claims anti war.
		And Trump said no new wars.
		I think a lot of these guys feel betrayed because he said no new wars.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		People are upset about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But the reality is we've been at war.
		Since World War II, it never ended.
		They called it cold for a while.
		We still want to control the Suez Canal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're still at war in the Koreas.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think that it's not a peace treaty.
		People have a right to be upset about it.
		I have changed my tactic with how I approach those issues, and I am more diplomatic because I want to make wins here.
		It doesn't mean that I'm not anti war.
		It means, and people are upset about it, but like my priority is getting these guys out of prison.
		And I would rather just try to use the influence I have, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, I think that's what I was saying a lot of it is lies because I feel like anybody who's actually trying to assess the situation who is skeptical on it is going to be honest about the long tail of this conflict, meaning Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, China, et cetera.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I think there's also a lot of pressure that's being applied on China's allies.
		Whether or not that's right or wrong, you know, is maybe another discussion.
		We could have that or not, you know, but I don't think that it's just Iran, Israel, Iran.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of people are just Israel posting.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know, posting.
		And I'll say this to Clint again that he comes up and when he comes on the show, I'll say it to his face.
		He made a fake video falsely attributing my argument on Israel and then put me on the thumbnail screaming, saying Israel derangement syndrome destroyed.
		Which he actually didn't address, for which Israel derangement syndrome is not when you criticize Israel over war in the Middle East.
		It's when you claim that Israel's running the opiate trade in West Virginia.
		That's retarded.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think that that's Scott Horton's position.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Or Dave.
		And that's why I think libertarians who want to attend the anti war rally in Grand Rapids should do so.
		Try to do it with a little bit more thoughtfulness and not have Israel derangement syndrome.
		Do it from your point of being principled or whatnot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me, let me, let me, let me, we're going to keep this going, but I want to pull this article up from Mediaite.
		House Democrat reveals she's working with other countries to get oil to Cuba, which includes Russia.
		Why are Democrats colluding with Russia against U.S. interests?
		Indeed, this is Pramila, how do you say, Jayapal.
		And she's got this video where she discusses, I'll play a little bit for you.
unidentified		In January, Trump issued an executive order threatening tariffs on any country supplying fuel to Cuba.
		This was this January, just a few months ago.
		And oil shipments from Venezuela, that's where Cuba had been getting its oil.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		were halted after the U.S. operations to kidnap Nicolas Maduro.
		Since January, only one Russian tanker of oil has made it to Cuba.
		In fact, it landed just a couple of days before I landed.
		And one tanker has enough oil basically for 10 to 14 days of Cuba's oil needs.
		So it's a very limited amount of time.
		Now, Russia has said they're going to send another tanker.
		I was in conversations with the ambassadors from Mexico and some other places, and I know other countries in Latin America are trying to figure out how to get oil there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why is an American member of Congress talking with Russia and other countries to bypass our embargo and sanctions on Cuba?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Because she's sympathetic to the communist regime in Cuba.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because when you asked this question earlier about the American people, does this mean the American people are Republicans?
		I would say this is not America.
		This woman is not American.
		In the philosophical sense, obviously we can get procedural and say she's a citizen, she's in Congress.
		My point is the American nation is its people and its country's borders.
		The American people would not act against the interests of the American people.
		The enemies of the American people would.
		We have many people in this country who hate this country.
		When polled, do you believe that the United States is a force for good?
		Republicans overwhelmingly said yes, Democrats overwhelmingly said no.
		These people are actively trying.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a few questions.
		Why would a Democrat seek to get oil?
		Period.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They don't.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These are the climate is bad and we got to stop using oil and go to renewables.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Also, we should help other countries get oil.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They think that we're the bad guy.
		They really do.
		You know, I think that Ron Paul and plenty of libertarians would oppose any type of meddling in the foreign affairs of other countries, and they could explain why from libertarian principle, you know, like philosophically driven positions.
		But I think that these people on the left, they're like, the United States is bad, and we need to do anything and everything we can to weaken it and to strengthen its enemies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think many libertarians agree.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's unfortunate.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Tim, do you think this is somebody who you could build a coalition with on an issue you guys may agree with?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Okay.
		Nice.
		What is that question?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know if you know.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if she wants to lower.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm literally an American citizen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If she wanted to make it so that, you know, we'd lower.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like maybe she comes out and says ATM fees are a ripoff, overdraft fees rip off the American people.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'd say she most definitely thinks that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here's one that's a little bit more.
unidentified		Sorry, sorry, sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that.
		So there's a guy out there right now, and he's a working guy, and he's a good, honest guy, and he's leaving work, and he says, I'm going to pick up some food for my family.
		So he goes to Wendy's and he orders five meals, brings them home, and his family all eats.
		And then the next day he goes to get gas for his car and his car's declined.
		And he goes, he opens up his app and he sees he has negative $89 and goes, How do I have negative $89?
		Turns out he only had $27 in an account the other day when he bought those meals, which cost $31.
		So that put him negative three.
		Then he got an overdraft fee immediately for $35.
		Then once midnight struck, they gave him another overdraft fee of $35.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's happened to me before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It happens to a lot of people.
		And basically, the way it works is if you're poor, the banks rip money out of your account and keep charging you.
		And if you're rich, you get free money.
		Now, I have no problem if Democrats proposed a bill saying banks cannot charge overdraft fees over and over and over again.
		In fact, I'd argue they shouldn't be allowed to charge overdraft fees at all.
		If the bank decides they're going to allow my card to run for more money than in my account, that's your fault.
		My account goes negative.
		All that means is there's nothing to take out.
		I got to pay you the $3.
		You fronted me.
		Now, if Democrats proposed that bill, I'd say agreed.
		Would you not?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		On that issue, actually, no.
		You agree to the terms to the credit card, and if you're not responding to your debit card or whatever, And if you're not responsible enough, your bank note, whatever, if you're not responsible enough to not overdraft your card, then maybe you shouldn't have a credit card, actually.
		You know, maybe that's on you.
		Maybe if you don't understand how credit cards work, maybe you should take up too much debt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you should just let your debit card work.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't have access to credit cards.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's try another one.
		Let's try another one.
		No, no, no, hold on.
unidentified		Hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong.
		Let's try another one.
		So, a guy.
		I'm going to explain to you why you're wrong because your opinion's wrong.
		Your opinion is incorrect because it's based upon false presumptions.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Which part is false?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you're not responsible enough.
		So let me give you another example.
		In Chicago, 20 years ago, a scandal erupted after the CTA started double charging people.
		People would go and buy a card, they'd buy a $20 card.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's the exception, not the rule, though.
		That's not how most people in our country should.
		Should those people, that's the difference, obviously.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's propose.
		The Democrats say in the instance that a fraudulent or mistaken charge overdrafts you, banks cannot charge you repeated fees.
		Would you agree with the Democrat on that?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		There are certain people in the.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I agree on principle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you join?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't work with Pramila Jayapal on that issue because there are certain people who are beyond the pale and beyond the coalition of who I'd want to build.
		And that's including the public good.
		So when you ask me, and that's what I was trying to understand from you.
		It wasn't, you know, that's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're willing to work with Hitler.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's like Pramila Jayapal, and that's great for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Like the idea that Hitler shows up with, and he's going to, like, I'm going to give everybody free food, and you're like, yeah, but you are Hitler.
		It's like, take the free food and then kick him out.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, here's an actual real world example.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't trust his free food, to be honest.
		My point is, if Nick Fuentes showed up, To a rally and said, I got a bunch of extra money.
		If you guys want to order from the Portils across the street, I'll pay for it.
		No, because you're.
		Take the free food.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What if Miriam Adelson offers half a million dollars?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so the Muslim community, especially in Michigan, overwhelmingly votes Democrat.
		If they, as some of them frequently do, want to kick all the trans the kids stuff out of the schools because they're socially conservative, yes, everybody should work to do that.
		And that's totally in moral alignment with conservatism, with Christianity, in my opinion, with libertarianism because it's a fraud place to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you.
		So let's say a proposition is proposed in Virginia that would ban giving kids sex changes.
		And you need 3% more of the vote in the state to get over the line to ban child sex changes.
		And the only voter block you haven't gone to yet is the Muslims.
		Would you ask them for help?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't hold a rally.
		Well, who would, or the Muslims?
		I'd try to court them, but what does that mean?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'd hold a rally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What would you be?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Muslims would be welcomed at my rally.
		I feel like that's manifestly different from inviting communist organizations to the rally.
		Would I invite far leftist, like, you know, terrorist sympathizing Palestinian and Muslim groups?
		To my events?
		No, I actually wouldn't.
		Even if they did agree with me on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, just to be clear, you would rather allow statewide legal child sex changes than ask bad people for help to get it over the line?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Depends on how bad, but I don't think those bad people, I think this is a bad hypothesis.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying, like, there's a bunch of pro Palestine, we hate Israel, Islamists, and they're saying, like, I don't know enough about this issue whether to vote.
		You have a chance to go to them, stand before them all, and say, please vote to shut this down.
		You wouldn't do it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I would not try to make common cause with radical Muslim extremists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's fine.
		You'll lose.
		That's all that matters.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Purism doesn't work in politics.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, I think I'll win.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the hypothetical I proposed.
unidentified		Okay, well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said, hypothetically, you need their vote.
		Would you sacrifice your position because you don't want to work with these people?
		You said yes.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, Trump did a lot of Muslim outreach in Michigan, and Rick Grinnell also did too, because a lot of them are socially conservative.
		They didn't like how Israel was being handled, and they were like, Can it at least be less bad?
		And they took a more pragmatic approach.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of the problems we have in this country is that Democrats open the door and then you require their votes.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you do.
		And so you work with whoever you can.
		And a lot of the people that I work with at Rage Against the War Machine, not all of them, but a lot of them, they're very sweet people.
		And I continue to have working relationships with them on particular issues.
		Like the Schiller Institute people, they're sweet people.
		They're helping to organize the current rage against war machines.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you this, Elad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You have a donut shop where you sell donuts, and a communist walks in with a communist hat and a communist flag.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Communists are not welcome in my donut shop, period.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so this is the thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then a guy with a kefir, that's what it's called, he walks in and he walks up to the counter and he goes, I am going to buy 3,000 donuts right now.
		And everyone screams in cheers.
		And then he goes, For Palestine!
		Would you kick him out?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No terrorist, rag wearing extremists.
unidentified		In my.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		MFing donuts, that's like saying I wouldn't work with.
		I was a Democrat, now I'm not.
		Some people are communists.
		I was a communist, now I'm not.
		What I agree with is communism sucks.
		What I don't agree with is communists are bad.
		Communists can become non communists if you ally with them and you show them a better path.
		They might drop that old and become a real American.
		Language that might happen.
		Okay, thank you, but that might happen.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So and you ally with them, they might take over and take away your rights.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they won't.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		They won't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you'll just have it a lot.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But I don't trust anybody, dude.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I will use them and discard them and transform them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The easiest part what you do is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you team up with them when they're sleeping, you implant a device in their brain that, like with Elon Musk's help, can control their thoughts.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And then if they betray you, press the button and they go, and then you guys know what happened during the Chinese Civil War during World War II.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Come to the next rally, free implants.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know a little bit.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about it first.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elon's like, are you a communist?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about what happened during World War II.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What happened during the Japanese had control?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Americans sent troops in there, but the Japanese were trying to take what NASA did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a civil war going on between the nationalists and the communists.
unidentified		You tell it.
unidentified		You know what?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		They had a truce.
		They said, we're getting invaded right now by the Japanese.
		Let's fight off the Americans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did they repel the Japanese?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Mostly the nationalists did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And then once the nationalists were done doing the dirty work, the communists took over what was left of the nationalists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying they should have let Japan take over?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So, I'm saying as a result of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What Japan did to those people?
unidentified		No, no, no.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that allying with communists in that case in World War II helped produce the CCP right now.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		We wouldn't have had the CCP had the nationalists not done all the dirty work.
unidentified		I forget that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is your point that they should have allowed Japan to conquer them?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		My point was that they shouldn't have allied with the communists.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But then Japan would have conquered them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's no other option.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Japan taking over China would have been a better case than if China were to be fully communist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Bro, they might have taken over the world if they took over China.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, we were going to liberate.
		We liberated most of the Pacific from the Japanese.
		We would have also had to do it with China.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		China lucked out on it, but it should have helped predominate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We would have aligned with China.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		We had one of the biggest cancers on earth, the CCP, as a result of this.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		These are really difficult decisions to just casually be like, well, you know, we shouldn't have aligned with them.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		We should have just let a foreign country take over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what we're going to do.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, we should let the communists take over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elad, we're going to have you play civilization, normal difficulty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then Ian, you're going to play, and we're going to see who does better.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, snap.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I will ally with my enemies to destroy you.
unidentified		Oh, snap.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then I will discard them and you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, what's going to happen?
		We're going to do a big multiplayer game.
		Everyone's going to team up and just wipe Elat off before he's discovered fire.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Diplomacy is everything at the global park.
unidentified		100%.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You're just going to wipe me and my people out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's a game called Diplomacy, which you guys should all play because it's about betrayal.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's about making alliances, coalitions, and then betraying them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who's the leader of the Israelis in civilization?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's in the game.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's in the game.
unidentified		What?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's on the game.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Come to Angela's next anti war rally where I say, President Trump, we love you so much.
		Would you mind dialing it down just a little bit in Iran?
		But it's totally up to you, and I understand your discretion.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I'm just passing you the word.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		The actual, the Nazi was actually the good guy in Nanking, which is really weird.
unidentified		Whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Israel is not in civilization.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Communists across the world.
unidentified		Weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's actually really weird.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		ADL has a write up on it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, this is actually interesting.
		Many players discuss the note.
		They note its historical and cultural significance.
		Biblical leaders like David or Solomon, major influence on the region and culture.
		Firax has avoided it likely due to modern political sensitivity around Israel.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, because I bet everybody would be blowing up Israel in civilization.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's so terrible.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's Jewish erasure.
unidentified		That's so terrible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that is really crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, whatever your thoughts on Israel, it exists as a political influence right now.
unidentified		Wow.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They were like, we don't want people blowing it up in a video game, so we'll just remove it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think they were concerned that there would be videos where Israel conquers the world and stuff like that, too.
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people would make weird memes about it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those memes would be.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Fire, though.
unidentified		Those guys would be a wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think it says that people have made mods.
		So, in order for people to get it, that's crazy.
		Civilization has all these different religions, but there's no Judaism?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's a super anti Semitic game.
		Sorry.
		Just going to come out and say it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That actually is pretty crazy.
unidentified		Is that for real?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's strange.
		I don't know.
		I've never played it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm only a free guy, not a Civ guy.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't play games.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't really have a lot of fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's actually pretty wild.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I thought libertarian women had everything.
		They got everything.
		Gamer girl types, too.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I do politics and recently got a fish tank.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fresh or salt water?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Fresh water.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you buy it from a communist?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I bought it in Austin, Texas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't do business with communists.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I would not do business with communists.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		So, probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What would you do if, like, you went to a cheeseburger shop and, like, a normal cheeseburger shop?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jewish, Tim.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I would never do something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		30% of the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they had kosher non beef cheeseburgers or whatever it is you guys eat, matzah or something.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, matzah cheeseburger.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		And then, like, you're sitting there eating it, and it's the best burger you've ever had.
		And then you look up, and the guy's just looking at you, and you take a slow bite of your cheeseburger, and you're like, can I help you?
		And then he pulls off his mask, and he's a communist.
unidentified		Oh, fuck.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		How would you rather it be a Muslim so he could be like, oh, don't worry, bro, the burger's halal?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we could eat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it the same?
unidentified		Oh, good.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but close enough.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		They stole, let's be honest, they stole our version of kosher, renamed it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They did.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's a spin off.
unidentified		It did.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm tired of acting like a lot of these other religions aren't just spin offs, cheap spin offs, frankly, of Judaism, but we need to get into that.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I ate at the Red and Black Cafe in Portland, Oregon.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The food was so good, but unfortunately, because they are communists, they didn't know how to run a business, so they didn't stay in business.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everyone knows.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Out of business is a good thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everyone knows.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you walk into a coffee shop and the bracelet looks conservative, your coffee's going to suck.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't drink coffee all the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows the communists make good coffee.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They make amazing and failed actors.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		My coffee preferably is made by someone with a lot of facial piercings, poor choices in tattoo placement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I walk into a coffee shop, I see a pride flag on the wall, I go, well, at least my coffee will be good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be great.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's very obvious that it's better to say, I don't like communism and not the individuals themselves because they can change.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They can become different.
unidentified		I force.
unidentified		No, no, through.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Waking up and learning things and by force, I don't hate a lot.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I thought one of the best things after Rage Against the War Machine was going to the rap party, and these people who otherwise hated me all of a sudden viewed me like as a human being.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		We had like a moment of camaraderie, and I was just like, wow, like if we can stop hating each other over like BLM and all this other stuff that I think they're so proud of me.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'd be proud to be hated by people who support BLM.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'd be proud to wait, wait, wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got a question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got a question.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm proud to be hated by communists.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'd be proud to behave as my Islamist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, I got a question for you.
		I got a question.
		So, you're walking down the street in D.C., having just left the press briefing where they were talking about how they're building a third ballroom on top of the other two, because there's already another one.
		This is the future, by the way.
unidentified		Beautiful.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then all of a sudden, you see a dude coming towards you, and he's like, and you're like, what is this?
		And you turn around, and there's like three more dudes, and they're like, and then you realize there's zombies.
		And then you're like, oh my God, there's zombies.
		So, you grab a piece of rebar on the ground, and you're like fighting zombies, but they're overwhelming you.
		And then all of a sudden, a guy comes up, and he goes, quick, take this, and he hands you a gun.
		He's wearing a sickle and hammer on his shirt.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that guy's giving me a gun?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're being attacked by zombies.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, no, Tim.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		They view us as subhuman.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the zombies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think you guys are confused about how communists feel about this guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Somebody, please make an AI short film of this where the zombies are attacking and Elad's fighting the zombies, but the communists are like, no, we want the zombies to win.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The communists aren't shooting or trying to help people kill zombies.
		They're shooting pro Israeli people, embassy staff outside of their buildings in DC.
		That's what the communists are doing.
		That's what people in the PCL are doing.
		A former member is doing, a former member of one of the communist organizations that I believe you had at the Raging on PCL.
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unidentified		Okay, wait, hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got another one.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		One of the organizations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, Elad.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Elad.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the PCL is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got a question.
unidentified		I got a question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there's like a bus crashes, right, on the side of the highway, and everyone screams, like people fly out the window, and there's a guy, and he's hanging, and he's screaming, Help me.
		And you run up to the edge, and you see there is a 12 year old girl clinging to his ankle, screaming, about to fall 100 feet, and the only way to save her is to pull both of them up.
		But the guy who's hanging on, He's a communist.
		Would you pull him up?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Tim.
		I'd pull him up.
		You got me.
unidentified		Fuck it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You got me, Tim.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I guess I'm saving the life of a communist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You just admitted you would save a communist's life.
unidentified		There's a lot of reasons.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You would save the life of a little girl.
unidentified		Yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think the big one is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, wait, wait, hold on.
		Let's flip it around.
		There's a little girl hanging on, and there's a communist clinging to her ankle, refusing to let go.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		What if she's the communist?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Let's start with that.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		How do you even know?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe children can be other than the communists.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There are a lot of former leftists who voted for President Trump in 2024.
		There are a lot of people who we would consider communists who lost their homes in the Palisades Fire.
		Who have flipped and they're voting for Trump.
		I know because I follow them on Instagram.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		There are as big of a constituency, nearly as many people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, though, these are.
		Regular people aren't communists.
		Regular people are just, they believe wrong things.
unidentified		Sure.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, some people think down with the government, down with the banking system, and then everything will be okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a communist way of thinking.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Communists want to come for your property.
		Communists want to come for your guns.
		Communists want to come for your children.
		Communists want to have limitless abortions until point of birth.
		And you guys are willing to ally with these people.
		I feel like you guys don't understand the proper.
		Threat from communism.
unidentified		I don't understand.
unidentified		No, I just understand.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The murder of Charlie Kirk.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Communists are celebrating the repeated assassination attempts on the president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just get mad.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The communists want Trump supporters dead.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What in any way connects communism to people supporting abortion up to birth?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the communists in our country support?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're communists.
unidentified		But what is it?
unidentified		Oh, I got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Angelo Zanzo.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		We wouldn't ally with every communist.
		You have to be selective who you ally with.
		And on, like, you have to do some litmus test.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yes, no communists.
		I agree.
		I mean, you need to be selective on who you bring to your country.
		On the left.
		Maybe a liberal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If aliens invaded.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you fight alongside a communist to stop the aliens?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think they'd come to take out the communists because they were.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's so many situations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not asking you about that.
		I'm asking literally, you're standing next to a communist guy and he goes, please help me stop this alien.
		Would you say okay?
		Or would you be like, no?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's so many situations in life where you have to ally with people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a regular.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Is it a yarmulke on the alien?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Is it a yarmulke on the communist?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't answer it, can you?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a stupid question.
		Obviously, yeah, we'd kill the aliens.
		We tried, but we'd probably lose if the alien was even.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, you would win if you came together.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, with that kind of attitude, you would definitely.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Would you team up with the communists to fight back the aliens?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's that's I would have teamed up with the communists to fight back against the Nazis.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, Angela's willing to team up with the communists to rage against the war machine.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I team up with an alien to fight the communists.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, alliances are not a lot.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Javad is late in bed at night thinking about that rally, nationalist.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I no, I mean, I really did try to express myself clearly.
		Like, really, what animates my politics, what got me involved, was being so anti left.
		And I thought people in the general right wing or center right were at least on the same page about that.
		I think these are dangerous extremists.
		And I think you are normalizing them, empowering them, and encouraging them to get more involved in the political process.
		And I think that's dangerous and bad for our country.
unidentified		I got a question.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Therefore, I think you guys, as libertarians, again, not you in particular, but as a group and party of people, are useful idiots for the world.
unidentified		You get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You said it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is George Soros a communist?
unidentified		Who?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		George Soros.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think he's more of a globalist lib than a commie, per se.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you ally with him?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I guess it depends on the issue.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Only to fight aliens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the answer is yes, in some circumstances.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, liberals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But communists, no.
unidentified		I got a question.
unidentified		I was, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Name a prominent communist, like a.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, Hassan Piker.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Hassan offered you a million dollars to do whatever you want, would you take it?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		To do whatever I want?
unidentified		Yeah, he said.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He's taking money from Hassan Piker.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I want you to just do your thing, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's a grant, it's a donation.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I will not be funded or powered by communists, no.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'd take a million bucks from Hassan Piker.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I agree.
unidentified		I wouldn't.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't a gotcha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of situations throughout life, and not all of them are political, where you're going to have to work with people you really disagree with.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And that's the way to move forward.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think there are consequences to that.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That maybe I don't think the libertarians have fully thought through or don't recognize the threat of.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That might be true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There are often unintended consequences to allying with people, and sometimes the path of least resistance is the most dangerous path.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to stress this.
		I view the Libertarian Party as a spattering of individuals who are all upset the one thing they want to do is illegal.
		So the thing that strings them all together is can I get my thing made legal?
		So that's why you've got some people that are just like, yeah, we want to buy drugs.
		Some people like we have post war.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The ideological umbrella is too large, in my opinion, for the Libertarian Party.
		Not just the Mises Caucus, but a lot of other people in the party skew socially conservative, not super conservative.
		At this point, it's like social moderate.
		Like, Just 2000s level, like what?
		Trans kids?
		No, that's bizarre.
		What are you talking about?
unidentified		Just like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you guys keep nominating.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'll nominate him every four years.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		If I have to nominate Chase Oliver every four years to get a good GOP, not a neocon, not a rhino, if to get a good GOP candidate elected to get JD Vance elected, I will hit that Chase Oliver button every time.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you found?
		They nominated Chase Oliver and then people were just like, I'm not touching it.
		I'm voting Republican.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		People were just like, Wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I get it now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason why Dave Smith and Clint are hardcore anti Israel is they're trying to pull all of the Democrat voters away because Trump's not going to lose his base.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I could have.
		There was just barely enough political will.
		I wouldn't have been able to pull everything I did off, but I could have pulled Chase off the ballot and replaced him with someone else.
unidentified		Really?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		With Trump?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to say no.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Trust me, I trust him.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		With a libertarian.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I didn't have the political capital for that, but I was able.
		There were a couple of other choices I could have, and it would have hurt President Trump's campaign.
		Ross might still be in prison.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Kennedy would not have gotten his HHS position, most likely.
		That would have disrupted that.
		Like it would have created the chain reaction that was just garbage.
		So instead, what I did was I continued to work with Trump, continued to work with Kennedy, put on the clown nose for Chase Oliver, just grin and bear it the whole time.
		People were very angry.
		I got sued twice over the entire thing.
		Membership collapsed because Chase Oliver was such a bad candidate.
		And I said, well, the party elected him.
unidentified		So that's what I did.
unidentified		It all makes sense now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Israel posting stuff is going to pull votes from Democrats because Trump is the one who started the war.
		So anybody who would normally be opposed to this, their choice is Democrat, but now they have another choice.
		So it's spoiling.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Libertarian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The libertarian vote will pull from Democrats, not Republicans.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		At this point, you're, you're, oh, I don't know.
		I don't know until I keep looking at the data all the time and it's just frankly confusing.
		It's just frankly confusing.
		Yeah.
unidentified		It's all fake.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What data?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's confusing?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Just polling numbers in different states.
		So, you know, New Hampshire is a really good.
		This is going to be a fascinating one.
		You have Sununu running, not governor, but his brother, and he was in the Senate before and was not real crazy about President Trump.
		And he's running against a Democrat in 2014, 20, 26.
		I can't recall the exact year.
		Anyway, Aaron Day ran as a libertarian slash independent candidate and wrecked the Senate.
		And he did it like twice in a row to the point that the GOP just gave up in New Hampshire.
		So now he's announced again that he's running because he wants these people to be free.
		And he's got some other grievances with Howard Lutnick and the Clarity Act and so on and so forth.
		But he's like, if the administration will sort of do like a Ross Ulbricht deal on some of these other crypto prisoners, I'll drop out.
		And that race seems to be sort of, it's been pretty neck and neck.
		And Aaron, unlike the typical paper candidate, neckbeard guy, he has money and he can run a campaign that it'll pull more than 1%.
		It may pull up to 5%.
		That would decimate that candidate.
		The polling there, that data, that's very important to get accurate polling information to see what's.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think everything's fake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we're post truth at this point.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, I agree.
		Here's an example, actually.
		Let me, let me, let me, I'm going to pull this up for you guys right here.
		This is a viral video that was going massively viral on X. Laura Loomer posted.
		Let me get the full, the full post from it from Laura.
		She said, The psyop of Nick Fuentes is now complete.
		In case you were wondering why the New York Times has begun glorifying him and he has bought it on social media, according to Elon Musk, and why he was never arrested over J6 when people who did far less were, he's a Democrat and just admitted to being a moderate Democrat on his show.
		If this is what moderate Democrats look like, imagine how much worse the woke and radical left Democrats are.
		His sole litmus test is hating Israel.
		It's been obvious for a while.
		Nick made a deal with Democrats.
		Now we can all see it.
		Let me play for you what Nick said and explain to you how everything is fake.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I care about affordability.
		I care about foreign interventions.
		I care about the border.
		I'm a non woke moderate Democrat.
		I think the GOP needs to be destroyed.
		I think the corrupt criminal government of Trump needs to be slowed down.
		We need to impeach the orange.
		It's time to put this nigga in a peach.
		Trump needs to be placed inside of a crystal.
		He needs to be impeached.
unidentified		I do love that meme.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This fat orange, tiny hands needs to be impeached.
		And then in 28, no Vance, no Rubio.
		We have to burn down the whole party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's the important context, actually.
		Nick is not saying he is a Democrat.
		He was acting a Democrat.
		So I got sent this video.
		I had people saying, like, Tim, did you see this?
		You need to comment on this?
		Nick is saying he's a Democrat.
		And I'm like, wow.
		And I asked people, like, did you see this?
		And so the reason why I did not make a segment addressing this is because I'm like, bro.
		For all I know, Nick Fuentes went, Guys, this is what I think Democrats are like.
		I'm a non woke Democrat.
unidentified		I'm a moderate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Turns out that's exactly what he was doing.
		He said, He was basically saying, if you look at the community notes, fans of Nick pointed out, he's not saying I am actually a moderate Democrat.
		He's saying a moderate Democrat would say something like this We got to get rid of Trump.
		He's got to be put into crystal.
		He's got to be impeached.
		He then goes on to actually say, After the fact, I would never vote for a Democrat unless they agreed with me.
		So, You know, with all due respect to Laura calling him out, because he is anti Trump, this longer clip, which everybody's like, oh, look, Nick's admitted it.
		No, he literally says, I would never vote for a Democrat unless they were a Nick Fuentes Democrat, meaning they agree with me.
		Again, the clarification is he was basically saying this is what Democrats think.
		He's making an argument that in the midterms, a moderate Democrat is thinking these things.
		Everything is fake.
		You see, all of these things, they're always trying to take people out of context.
		And that's why I posted on X the other day.
		Actually, I'm sick and pull this up.
		I posted for the first time in my life, I'm voting Republican.
		Democrats have gone too far.
		Two million views.
		I posted literally right after it, while I'm recording the video, this is gonna be funny.
		I'm never voting Republican again.
		I'm voting Democrat.
		Two million views.
		And literally to make the point that there are people out there who produce content who know full well my point was that journalists take these things out of context.
		They will share whichever they choose to fit their narrative.
		And then, sure enough, people do.
		It's all fake.
		I have no idea what, like, I should just say I.
		No one actually knows.
		I will say one more thing.
		Right now, you've got Tucker Carlson putting out this thing saying it's 56.8 million views per episode.
		If that were true, he'd be 20 times bigger than Joe Rogan, which it's just not true.
		What he did was he aggregated all views that he may have got from promo, from shorts, from clips, and then said when they make an episode across every platform and every format, including shorts or otherwise, he gets about 56.8 million.
		Joe Rogan's probably way higher than that because of how many people are clipping.
		So this is just not correct.
		I will say this.
		The narrative right now being pushed by many people is that if you are in Trump's camp, your viewership is gone.
		Ben Shapiro's viewership is gone.
		The Daily Wire just fired half their staff.
		None of this is true.
		Everybody's viewership is down in politics because we are in an off season.
		But I can say this for us.
		We've had a handful of episodes over a million.
		We averaged 600, 700,000 on IRL.
		A few of my morning show episodes, one this week is at 700K.
		Last week was at 800K.
		I've got a culture war segment over a million on California.
		Our views are actually higher now than they were in the previous cycle.
		It is all fake.
		Everybody's making things up.
		And I'll add this one more.
		These people keep.
		Sharing fake videos, different kinds of fake videos, trying, editing me.
		They'll take a statement on the show from somebody saying something like, well, I think Israel did bad.
		And then they'll pull a completely different clip from a different episode of me saying, like, no, no, that one was good.
		I'm happy it happened.
		And it's just, they're fake.
		And for what purpose people are making fake videos where I defend atrocities committed by Israel?
		I do not understand their goal.
		But I will tell you, it's all fake.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's to make you look like you don't have integrity.
		Because I think right now, with the age of information, which we've had for 80 years or 60 years since computation, like now we've got, The age of disinformation, the age of obfuscation, where you're trying to trick people with information.
		And so I think that integrity is probably one of the most, I was thinking, integrity is probably one of the most things you could possibly accrue in reality right now.
		But then I'm like, for what purpose?
		Like, is it better to live an integral life of being true and then at the very end, you just deceive everyone for the public good?
		Like, is that really probably the best tactic?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I think, I know, Laura Loomer was probably being a little dishonest here.
		I think so was Nick.
		And I think there's kind of layers to this.
		Yeah.
		He's cosplaying.
		Like, my comment on it initially was like, is this real?
		Is this like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't blame Nick for this.
		If I said something like, listen, this midterm is going to come up and they're going to be independent voters who look at these voting things and go, listen, I do not like Donald Trump.
		I do not like JD Vance, but Democrats have gone insane.
		Who do I vote for?
		I said that kind of stuff all the time.
		Now, someone, we actually literally pointed this out.
		What was the segment recently where I said I could say something like, I'm.
		What did I say?
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		You said you got like a call from Trump, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		I was like, The media is lying about everything and people pull things out of context intentionally.
		Like, I could say right now, I actually got a call from Donald Trump before he called out Candace Owens and Carlson.
		And he said, Thank you, Tim, for being such a great supporter.
		To which I responded, Trump, I'd support you even if you shot someone on Fifth Avenue.
		And he laughed.
		He's a good guy.
		And then, sure enough, all of these Israel posters spam blasted that clip out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I wonder about integrity because being honest, being truthful, what does it really even matter?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because AI is going to make deepfakes of you lying and like deepfakes of me lying.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It matters.
		I mean, yeah, I think it matters.
		I think it matters probably for the moral fabric of society.
		I think what Nick is doing here is yes, he's doing the thing that he says, which is like cosplaying, but it's also mixed in with him saying things like vote Kamala, vote.
		Like he knows that it's going to be clipped out of context.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And probably, I literally said it would too.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Probably derives a little bit of enjoyment from that chaos.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I would agree with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a moral philosophy here that people need to reconcile.
		And that is you are no longer actually going to sell.
		There are efforts to limit your reach to certain groups of people by falsely maligning you through AI and through edited clips.
Death Threats Against Podcaster 00:10:23
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't change it.
		I'll give another example.
		Mehdi Hassan debated Michael Knowles, and he asked Michael Knowles if he supported Trump pardoning neo Nazis and pedophiles on J6.
		Because the point is, the people who support Mehdi Hassan just want fuel to be able to go, Michael Knowles supports pedophiles.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Michael Knowles says, I oppose pedophilia, I oppose assaulting police officers, and then Mehdi Hassan says, he won't answer the question.
		The liberals get whatever they want, no matter what.
		Sam Seder came on the culture war and then asked me a hypothetical about conservative issues on abortion.
		I explained I was pro choice.
		He starts screaming at me, yelling about how I'm pro life, and I'm sitting here confused, like I'm pro choice.
		And then once he's done ranting, he goes, Oh, I just want to get a clip.
		It literally just faked the whole thing because he knows his audience does not care.
unidentified		It's all fake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Candace Owens, her lawyer's working with federal agents, and her top lawyer was an award winning Zionist.
		Her family is apparently heavily invested in companies in Israel and Tel Aviv, and Laura Loomer is dropping.
		All of this stuff.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Look, to be fair, with Zionism, you win.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So I'd understand why she wanted a Zionist lawyer.
unidentified		Because she wanted a good one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's funny how she comes out and attacks Israel while, again, according to Laura Loomer, her family is heavily invested in Israeli companies in Tel Aviv.
		Again, her lawyers work in a building with federal agents.
		Weird.
		And the people who follow her, the point is when she says debacle and kerflaffle, it's intentional.
		It's the Nigerian email scam.
		You say dumb things to intentionally weed out smart people.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I haven't thought of it like that.
unidentified		So let me explain.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Nigerian email scams, hey, I'm a Nigerian prince, but I'm trapped and I need $1,000, then I can send you a million.
		They're intentionally grammatically incorrect with spelling errors.
		Now, midwits get the email and they go, this moron spelled payment wrong.
		I'm not falling for this.
unidentified		X.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They intentionally spell things wrong because they know people of moderate intelligence will not send you money and waste your time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They make more money being stupid because stupid people don't notice they're being scammed.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I will say that's about Nick though.
		The thing I hate the most about Fuentes is he has so much charisma, man.
		He has Riz.
		I can't, I'm not gonna lie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like Nick.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He's probably one of the better podcasters as far as his tone, pacing, attention to detail goes.
unidentified		He is.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You just have to hope he likes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He has many bad opinions.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He's not losing, frankly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he has many opinions I don't like.
unidentified		I get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do not agree with him on issues, largely on issues of race.
		And, but he made a few important points.
		One, He called out Candace Owens for lying.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he also pointed something else out recently.
		Tucker Carlson meets with heads of state in Middle Eastern countries.
		This is not something a podcaster does, this is something a government actor does.
		Tucker Carlson is not just some journalist or podcaster.
		He is of worldly affairs, negotiating and cutting back deals and advising.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, back room.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not on his show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not on his show.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because we've had like Dominic Tarzinski on here, Polish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
		The point he was making is that.
		Your run of the mill podcaster is not flying to Qatar or Saudi Arabia and meeting with the premier in private meetings discussing strategy.
		He's not going to the White House to meet with the president.
		Tucker Carlson is not just some podcaster.
		Now, again, whatever the implication you want to get from that, that's an astute point about who people are consuming their media from, especially when it says things like, I'm tormented for supporting Trump.
		And then his brother immediately goes, Maybe Miriam Madison's money was for a reason.
		He goes, Because he always knew what that money was for.
		So I think Nick makes a lot of really great points.
		And again, I think.
		The reason so many young men listen to him is he's got a worldview on race, particularly, that I think I would describe as largely incorrect.
		But he hits a few points that speak to a lot of young people, particularly.
		I know where he grew up.
		He grew up a few miles away from where I grew up and Jimmy Doar, in fact.
		I don't know if Jimmy grew up there, but where Jimmy lived when we were all young.
		I know why Nick feels the way he does about a lot of these racial issues, and it's going to speak to a lot of young men.
		I don't completely agree with him.
		I largely disagree, but he's got some points.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I will say, too, he's also funny.
		He's Very funny and a lot more funny than a lot of the self proclaimed comedians whose jokes I've never heard of.
		But this guy's like, and I'm sorry, that video where he hurricane kicked that woman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that one?
		Remember when that woman came to his door?
		It turns out he didn't just pepper spray her.
		He actually ninja kicked her.
unidentified		Oh, no.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I did see that video.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know he kicked her.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's how you thought he kicked her.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see a shove.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I saw this.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's how you have to treat people.
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		You're all wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're all wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull it up.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You about to pull up an AI video?
unidentified		What were you talking about?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's cool.
		Is it this martial artist?
		I mean, if Nick starts doing martial arts, he's going to go alpha prop.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You got to hope he just gets tired of losing.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Better on his economics.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully, he just gets tired of losing and then understands with Zionism you win.
		I think there's time for him to.
		To come over to the bright side.
		I think he knows more about Judaism probably than I do, and he's going to keep learning, and eventually he's going to come completely enthralled with it.
		And then I think we'll want to convert.
		I think this is a long path.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that dude's going to want to convert.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's an infatuation turning into a conversion.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't think he's.
		I don't know, man.
		People weaponize religion and make militaries out of it and countries out.
		It's just that's not what it's for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is actually really annoying.
		I can only find the real video.
		I'm trying to find the funny video.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to find the funny video.
unidentified		It's religion.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you guys seen the funny video?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I have not seen the funny video.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I thought the real video was kind of funny.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he just went right at her.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He likes, like, a head down.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly how I would react if some psychotic stalker was at my front.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Some lady was banging on his door, had it, and he opened it.
		She, like, put something.
		Did she put a camera in his face or something?
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was filming, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He just knocked her on the ground and pepper sprayed her, and then knocked her on the ground or knocked her on the ground and pepper sprayed her.
unidentified		People were like, Nick attacked him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And it was like, bro, she was trying to stop him.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I also think there was something so messed up about, like, you know, he had such an aggressive beef with Charlie Kirk.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Prior to his killing, he used to shit all over Turning Point USA.
unidentified		Oh, I found it.
		It's a horror.
		I found it.
		I found it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		His peers at the defense.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe how long it took me to find this video.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you've seen the video, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The woman comes to his door.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, watch what he did.
unidentified		Oh.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He hooked her.
unidentified		Oh.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do it again.
unidentified		She.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And then he rewound time and did it again.
unidentified		Oh.
		Oh.
		Get over here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She scored.
		So the real video, he just shoves her.
		I saw this video going everywhere.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Pepper sprayter and shit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But come on, this is hilarious.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
		500.
		He's a superstar.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's just more evidence of the great disparity between genders because he is not this guy and he's still able to knock her.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the actual video.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here, watch this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So she's been at his door for a while.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, hold on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I want to put the sound on it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what she was doing, how long she was there.
unidentified		Nice to watch.
		Hi.
		Oh, my God.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
		What are you doing?
		What do you think?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think it's pepper spray shoved.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Tips your phone, maybe?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he might have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm on Nick's side on this one.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue is that his house was surrounded by people and he was getting a bunch of death threats.
		He hears a doorbell.
		He hears his bell ring.
		When he goes up, he sees a woman holding her phone up.
		And I'm sorry, like, I understand the position of having thousands of death threats sent your way.
		And then we have people show up here in the middle of the night.
		We've been shot at.
		All Nick did was shove her off his porch.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We pepper sprayed her and shoved her off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying, like, he didn't permanently injure her.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And if he'd walked towards her and then hit her, he might be in jail right now, but he didn't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He walked towards her, got whatever that thing was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I'm going to tell everybody this right now.
		There's a reason why I think Nick should hire security for his house.
		I don't know if he's still in that same property.
		I will just warn everybody right now if you try breaking out of his property, you will die.
		There's just not a question about it.
		I can't remember, was it Alex Stein who mentioned the guy walking around with the AR 15?
		Yeah, and I'm like, well, like, normally we don't talk about that stuff.
		He was like, I saw a guy walking around with an airframe.
		A guy?
		So normally we just say we don't talk about our security measures here.
		But for your safety, if you try to illegally enter this property, they're not going to ask you questions about why you're doing it.
		This is West Virginia.
		So, my point is, I think Nick did the bare minimum.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Many people were like, he should have just.
		Let me give you a scenario.
		People are like, well, he shouldn't have answered the door.
		What if she started a fire?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if she was going to spray something on the door?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		She's the aggressor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's getting death threats.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		She's the aggressor.
		She's the aggressor.
		If you're a woman approaching a man's door to harass him, you're being very stupid.
		Men are stronger than women.
		And if they're getting death threats, like what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We had a security incident I can't describe because it's easily weaponized.
		What someone did that forced the evacuation of our studio is comparable to what this woman was doing.
		If this woman walked up on the ring camera, I'll just put it like this.
		I guess I have to describe this.
		It's not exactly what happened to us, but let me describe it.
		If that woman walked up, rang the doorbell, and dropped a black plastic cube.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me explain this.
		You're like, well, this makes no sense.
		If she went to a 3D printer, printed an eight inch by eight inch black cube, walked up, rang the doorbell, and put it on the ground, they'd have to call the bomb squad.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So when she's on his porch and he sees in the ring camera, she's holding an object, so he sprays her and shoves her off his porch, that's the minimum.
		And I would argue he needs security and should call the police immediately.
		The problem is they're not going to do anything.
		But I will say this again we don't really have to deal with this right now because the way our security is currently set up.
		And the mention of a single man with an AR 15, I believe 556.
		But however, it's as simple as I'm not going, there's a technique that is utilized by many of these people that is easily replicated for $10 that triggers not just the bomb squad, but a detonation.
Porch Incident Security Concerns 00:05:38
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like serious stuff that is very easy to do, which I won't describe how to do.
		It is not too dissimilar to what we are seeing in this video.
		Nick, if Nick were to have called the police, And said, a strange woman is on my porch holding a strange object.
		The cops would have pulled up with their guns drawn on her.
unidentified		Totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, again, I'm on Nick's side on this one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he actually beat the charges and now she's suing him or something.
unidentified		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I heard he didn't get charged.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was arrested in charge, so I think they got dropped.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's gross.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You can't be charged for defending yourself when people are threatening to murder you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess it depends on the city and the state you're in.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, are you allowed to pepper spray someone on your front porch holding up an object?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		It happened like a couple years ago or two years ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
		We got to go to Rumble Rants and Super Chats because I was off on a tangent on this Nick thing.
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		Hey, I got a comment from Swan Song 70 says, Can she talk now, Tim?
		I think people like you, Angela.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you're here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Angela's been talking the whole time.
unidentified		I talked a little bit.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know, but you probably talk more.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I've been trying to talk more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My daughter.
unidentified		Huh?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My daughter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is she talking?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is your daughter talking?
unidentified		Oh.
		Indeed.
		Oh, she is?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean, like, baby talk a year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's been a year.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I think they were saying, can Angela talk more?
unidentified		Well, me.
unidentified		I thought it was a funny comment.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Ambiguous.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Ambiguous.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was a big, total non sequitur.
		The comment was like, can she talk?
		I think they're talking about Angela.
		Like, you must have been talking while.
		They're like, I want to hear Angela say something.
unidentified		Oh.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Whatever got.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was one period for like 15 minutes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These comments are always just like, it's a meme or something.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I don't, anyway.
unidentified		Nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Soupy says, My daughter is in fact talking and she's learning to weaponize.
unidentified		What was her first word?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was hello.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, very nice.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's adorable.
unidentified		Yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		She's beginning to weaponize.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean by that?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, she just started saying words.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So my wife melts when she hears mama.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so when baby wants something and she's going, and then, you know, my wife is like, hold on, I'm getting it.
unidentified		She goes, mama.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then my wife's like, oh, I've seen her make some faces where it's like, how do you defend yourself?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like some faces, it's just, well, you have to, but she looks at me and she's in her play area.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have like a play area set up with like the special foam floor, whatever, and toys.
		And then she's standing there and she's holding on to it because she's like starting to walk.
		And she looks at me and she's just babbling.
		And I'm sitting on the couch.
		I was watching, I'm watching the five.
		You know, I got to get my gut filled in.
		And then I'm just like, is there something you need?
		And then she just babbles.
		And I say, you can say, dada.
		And then she goes, dada.
		And I'm like, okay.
		And then I get up.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Gotta get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I pick her up.
		Well, because we want her to understand, we have to, we want to reinforce the use of the words.
		But she said backpack.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, very nice.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Very nice.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because we don't actually enunciate the cuz in backpack.
		It's just backpack.
		So all she has to do is go backpack.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And she knows, like, you show her the backpack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And she looked up and went, backpack.
		Back.
		And we were like, let's go!
unidentified		Nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Supi says, I'm a fan of a lot, but I have a question for you, brother.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the libertarians didn't help Trump win and it was just him, then did Charlie Kirk and TPSA help or no?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Comparing Turning Point's impact on the election to the libertarians' impact is dumb, frankly.
		No offense.
		I just think Turning Point had a much bigger impact across the country, very clear and obviously.
		I think, again, the libertarians did.
		Didn't really move the needle here.
		Thank you for the nice words, though.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The president literally told me, I got to get the vote.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Joe Jorgensen, she cost me the vote.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think he was running for president.
		So I think it makes sense that he was trying to tell everybody that.
		And politicians lie to people to try to gain their vote.
		And I hope he gave you a very warm feeling because you did end up helping him out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Libertarian Party swung it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They swung the election.
unidentified		Did they?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It was a coalition effort.
		Everybody worked.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		But they put a lot of people in a lot of different positions.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Did any.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was RFK.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He drew like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		RFK got the suburban women on Trump's side, which.
		People largely credit for Trump's victory, indeed.
		And the reason why Candace Owens has been attacking Trump is because she's intentionally pulling suburban women away from the Republican Party.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There were a lot of backroom deals.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing libertarians won't take credit for.
		I guess you guys are responsible for electing the president.
		Turning points too much.
		You guys are responsible for now, then everything that comes with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just respond with things.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		De facto responsible for the Iran war.
unidentified		That's all, man.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's all I'm saying.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
unidentified		And thank you, libertarians.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm also sturgeonly, so I appreciate it.
unidentified		And thank you, libertarians.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm also sturgeonly, just like all of my libertarian party members.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's get some more in here.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Nah.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Federalist Patriot says Tim Afghanistan was absolutely a failure.
		Iraq is a far better place today.
		Look up vids of Westerners who have visited Baghdad.
		Yes, our pockets of bad people, but we have the same issue in USA.
		DC Pineapple says Jumping Jacks, AKA Side Straddle Hops.
		Have you guys seen that video?
		Can we pull that up?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I want to see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Iraqi side street.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's eye widening.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The world is not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if we can find it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		During the day, if you're an American, there's a lot of weirdness out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is this it, maybe?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, it might be, but let's see what happens if it loads.
unidentified		I like the crouching and hopping.
unidentified		This guy's got it with partial burpees.
English Tonal Language Nuances 00:07:35
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		This is wild because this is a kindergarten exercise, literally for four year olds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What people need to understand is that if the neural pathways are not developed at a young age, they cannot develop.
		For example, when they found a young girl in a basement of a house, she had been kept there her whole life and never learned to talk.
		She could only say a few grunts.
		She could say things like food, hungry.
		There was also the story of that young girl who escaped and had been kept in the basement with her brothers, and she had difficulty communicating with people outside because she never developed the neural pathways.
		When they try and later, there's a story of a young girl that never learned to talk and was basically like abused and left outside her whole life.
		When they brought her, rescued her, and tried teaching her words, she could only learn like single things like eat, sleep, but she couldn't communicate effectively.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you need, well, I don't know if you've ever heard that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a reason why some people can live in the United States for 20 years and never get rid of their accent.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Their neural pathways do not alter.
		They don't have the capability to speak differently and they can't pronounce certain letters.
		It is always baffling to me that there are Asian people who can't say L's and some Asian people can't say R's.
		So I can't remember which country it is.
		What is that?
		Like in Japan, they can't say L's, they say Ra.
		But in China, they can't say R's, they say L's.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like an in between sound.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wrong time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's weird because.
unidentified		Wrong time.
unidentified		La.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just like put the tongue in type of mouth and go, ooh.
		So, I had a Spanish friend and she used to call me team.
		And I was like, I didn't really care.
		She would just say, team, do you want to go get something to eat?
		And I'd be like, sure.
		Because it's like, whatever, I understand what you're saying.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One day we were hanging out.
		And then I was like, can you say, can you pronounce my name with like an American accent?
		And she's like, what do you mean?
		And I said, my name is not team.
		That would be spelled T E E, T E E M or T E A M. My name is T E M.
		It's an I, not an E.
		And she goes, I.
		And I'm like, right.
		So go, tuh.
		She goes, tuh.
		And I go, no, go, I.
		She goes, eh, and I go, a ma.
		She goes, ma, and I go, ta, eh, ma.
		And she goes, taim.
unidentified		She just couldn't say it.
unidentified		It's funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could not say it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I hung out with a Chinese girl.
		That was a lot of fun trying to figure out each other's accents because they have that tonal language where they have these four distinct tones that are like embedded in their psyche.
		And we have like millions of, like, we don't have a tonal language like they do.
		We have ours.
unidentified		Yeah, we do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not technically, English isn't tonal.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's not considered a tonal language.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're speaking generally like.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We have sarcasm.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's our version of tone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but we do use tone.
unidentified		Correct.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't change the definition of what we say.
		It's not supposed to, unless you're using sarcasm, like, oh, yeah, right.
		Like, that changes it.
		But in China, literally, if you say a word like this or like this, it has two different completely meaning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's true in English as well.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not tech.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If I say, what?
		Really?
		You think this or you think this, I mean the same thing.
		But in China, those would mean different things.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you're explaining the.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're saying, like, it can be dog or cat.
unidentified		Yes.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Japanese has something similar, too, where you can accidentally call someone their grandma if you're trying to order a pizza or something.
		There's things like that.
		On, like, the length of a vowel sound can change things.
		However, you're saying full words could be based on the tone.
		We do use tone, but I understand what you're saying.
		We're not a tonal language, but meaning is derived from tone.
		There's a thing in sales where they talk about uptones and downtones, and that's why you never end on uptones because it sounds like you're asking a question.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's very Canadian.
unidentified		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You're going to sit over there then?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I love inflection too in English.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You ever see that inflection point where it's like, If you add emphasis on any one of these words, it changes the meaning.
unidentified		Totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		It's like, I never said she could have my car.
		I never said she could have my car.
		Yeah, I never said she could have my car.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Just where you draw the word out changes the entire meaning of the sentence.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Mike Myers was saying, he's a Canadian, he was saying the Canadian tilt or whatever he called it.
		He was like, you talk like this, and then you talk like this, and then you talk like this, and then you talk like this.
		And that indicates that it's their turn to talk.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have that too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think we do, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's called downtones.
		So, it's very important when you're ending your train of thought that you wind things down so that people know your thought is coming to a close.
		Most people don't understand this.
		Do you know about the order of the structure of a sentence in terms of adverbs, adjectives?
		You ever see this?
unidentified		What about it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows that if you saw a, let's say there's a rabbit, it is very large and it is the color brown.
		You would say a big brown rabbit.
		You would not say a brown big rabbit.
		That's improper English.
		Most people can, if you give someone a series of adjectives, adverbs, and a noun, They will structure it properly, but when you ask them the order, they won't be able to tell you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And then in Spanish, it's the rabbit brown.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You say the brown rabbit in English, in Spanish, it's the rabbit brown.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You identify the object and then describe it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, when we would say, like, a large, hairy, fast rabbit, there is an order to the description of the rabbit that has to be proper, whether it's the adverb or the adjective.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so it's actually really fascinating.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The adverb describes the adjective.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So you're like.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It sounds weird and wrong otherwise.
		You're like, what is wrong with you?
		Why did you say that?
		It sounds weird and wrong.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, I was like.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Say a superiorly fat rabbit.
unidentified		Check it out.
unidentified		Check it out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That really is the adverb.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That is the adjective.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so it's called Osaskamp.
		Opinion, size, age, shape, color, origin, material, purpose is the English structure for description that has to be followed.
		And everyone knows it.
		Everybody knows it.
		My beautiful, big, old, round, red Italian leather running shoes, as opposed to my red Italian, big, running, old, leather, round shoes.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's bizarre.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that because they're going in a de escalative alphabetical order?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They're going from A to Z.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lovely, small, young, black cat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A black, lovely, young, small cat.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I can't say it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hard to say.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It is hard to say it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not every sentence uses all categories, but the order still follows.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It feels like there's maybe two that you can switch up every now and then, but there's clearly ones you just cannot switch up.
		You cannot.
		That's a strange thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good chat.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's also like a bunch of phrases that make no sense that we say every day, like used to.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the fly, the animal, a fly.
		Why do they call it that?
		Because it flies?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's a name.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But think about this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a verb.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a car.
		What's a good way of used to?
		Like what?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I used to use this car.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I used to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you look that up in the dictionary?
unidentified		Used.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I used two cars.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I used to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you used to go running?
unidentified		I used to.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I used to go running.
		That's how I say it.
		I used to use that thing.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		What would you say in place of that?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All delightful, tiny, brand new, triangular, bright yellow Japanese origami folding papers, some lovely, small, vintage square, pastel, pink Korean rice wrapping sheets.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And those amazing, huge, antique, cylindrical, shiny, silver Chinese lacquered storage boxes were neatly arranged on the wide wooden shelves of the cozy neighborhood craft store that opened last month on Maple Street.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But instead of saying Chinese lacquered storage boxes, I could have said lacquered Chinese storage boxes.
		I don't think it would have changed the definition of the sentence.
		But I got to understand more about what you were claiming there and what you were explaining.
		With what?
		The structure of these sentences and how they have to be a certain way and they follow a pattern.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is in English.
Bill Maher Political Commentary 00:09:48
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to waste time on the show doing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In English, you are.
		There is a structure to descriptors in English that everyone follows and can naturally follow, hasn't been taught, just instinctively learned through learning English, and also can't describe properly.
		And that is opinion, size, age, shape, color, origin, material, and purpose.
		A big brown bunny, not a brown big bunny.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Okay.
		Loud, fat, obnoxious, bald guy.
		How would it be better?
unidentified		Tim Pool.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we would be better.
unidentified		Close.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can say disgusting loud, fat.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I've got two loud.
		Here's why because bald guy seems like it goes together more than the others.
		Loud, fat, obnoxious.
		I feel like two of those are out of place.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A loud, bald, fat, obnoxious guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to grab one more and then we got to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
		Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, that CKY meme for Jess is hilarious.
		If you want to see it, it'll be on the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash Tim Castle.
		You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
		Angela, do you want to shout anything out?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		We're holding an event talking about the Bitcoin prisoners.
		We're going to be interviewing some of their wives and loved ones.
		Lynn Ulbrich will be there.
		The attorneys will be there.
		I'll be there.
		MisesBitcoinBall.com.
		Join us in Grand Rapids during the Libertarian National Convention.
		And shout out to those guys, you know, cryptoprisoners.com.
		You can find me on X at RealAngelaMC.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is actually really important.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are overtime.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A lot of these crypto guys have been overcharged.
		It was a muddy area for a decade.
		So, I'm with you on this.
		We really need to go into this.
		I'm Ian Crossland.
		Follow me on the internet.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for tuning in, everybody.
		Thanks for listening to me, BM, bitch and moan about communism for an hour.
		I'm a lot of liahoo.
		You can find me on social media at a lot of liahoo.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating conversation.
		I really enjoy it.
		You can find me at Carter Banks everywhere.
		And let's get into the after show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL right now.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		So for those that – I promised I'd show them this meme because Raymond brought it up.
		For those that don't know, Jess Margera is the brother of Bam Margera, and I love just tweeting at him.
		And the reason why is people usually don't see my tweets to him, and he's like D list famous.
		He's famous enough for people my age and my generation because he was in the band CKY, and CKY's got a bunch of really awesome songs.
		It's a great band.
		And so I always just post shit at him.
		He said, the people that were in charge of containing things like this have all been fired to buy a ballroom, a pointless war, $5 billion for Elon Musk to fire them all, and two planes each for Christine Noman Cashpedell.
		Now, the important thing is, he's responding to a story about Hantavirus infection in Switzerland.
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know what the story actually is?
		A passenger on the boat who had Hantavirus was transported to Switzerland for medical treatment.
		It says Hantavirus confirmed in Switzerland, making people think the virus is spreading.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm very confused by this whole.
unidentified		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I just made this.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		That was it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Raymond thought it was funny.
		And then there's this one.
		So here's what he posted.
		He said, At this point, it's just embarrassing how to interact with someone who's still falling for it.
		And, you know, they're pointing at a guy in a MAGA hat and they're laughing at him.
		So then I made this what it's like to be Jess Margera.
		And it's the same guy, but he's got a bunch of hot chicks just swooning behind him.
		Because I just like tweeting at Jess.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's been invited on the show a million times because I'm a fan of his band.
		His politics are dumb as shit, but.
		You know, I don't know.
		I have fun.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Does he ever respond to that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, all the time.
		Like, he's always tweeting at me.
		I'm always tweeting at him.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Is he like, I'm so mad at you?
		You suck.
		No, no, no.
unidentified		Okay.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's funny.
		He's like clearly just very anti Trump.
		And I'll respond and he'll just be like, oh, blah, blah, blah.
		Mega stupid and blah, blah, blah.
unidentified		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that Bam's brother?
unidentified		Yep.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know him.
unidentified		Goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is Bam's brother.
unidentified		Jess.
unidentified		Nope.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's the drummer.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I was interacting on Twitter and I was like, why is Tim tweeting at Bam's sister?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who, what band is he in?
unidentified		CKY, bro.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know him.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you do.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Oh, shit.
		He's in this band?
		Yeah, the drummer.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		One of the first songs any guitar player learned.
unidentified		Yeah, we should just jam and get all this aggression out of the stage.
unidentified		It's a good one, huh?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		20 years ago.
		I like R Rockstar better, though.
		Shout out Philip.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, CKY's actually got a bunch of really awesome songs.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Phil on tour right now?
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Very nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see, what do they got?
		Flesh into Gear, another huge, well known song from.
		Good stuff.
		What else do they got?
unidentified		Fuck yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Familiar Realm, attached to the hip.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of these, like, I bet if I play this, a lot of people go, oh yeah, I know that song.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's because they were all over MTV because of Bam Marjera.
unidentified		I see.
		With the elements in my mind and in my soul.
		I'm driving and blind.
		Got a picture in the box and it brings me to where I am.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, they have so many good songs for a band that never really popped.
		Like, if it wasn't for Bam, they'd be nobody.
		But now the funny thing is, Bam and Jess, like, hate each other.
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's what we're familiar with.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Bam called him a faggot or something and then hit him with a guitar.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Bam's been through it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I just saw a video of Bam getting smacked in the face by something Johnny Oxford did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's doing really well, though.
		He's coming around.
		It's good.
		We tried having him here twice, and it kind of fell apart, and then he got arrested, and a bunch of shit happened.
		That sucks.
		And then, like, we started getting yelled at.
		There's a whole thing that I'm probably not supposed to talk about.
unidentified		I'll be down to hang with you.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's so funny that he's just growing into his father.
unidentified		Bam?
		Yeah.
		He looks like.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's just getting very, very fat.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, he's lost a lot of weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He got fat and then he started.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		When he was looking that fat, I was like, oh, he is his father's son.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Clearly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was fat?
unidentified		I didn't know.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, bro.
		Bam?
		Like, he was.
unidentified		No, I know.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So it was like a meme that it was like my fat dad and he'd mess with him and then like he had an uncle too and they were the two fat guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		His mom said back in the day when he was like all fit in a pro skater that he does it because he's scared one day he'll look like his dad.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And then he kind of did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He absolutely did.
		He got massive.
		The sad thing is, he got really fat because his best friend died in a car crash.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's horrible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he fried his brain with drugs because after this happened, he spiraled.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing about tragedy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like what you do after the tragedy defines you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he's been cleaning himself up.
		He's getting things in order.
		It's just sad because you take drugs to a certain point, you can't recover.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's hard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you fry your brain, and your brain won't come back.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The progression of those jackass guys has been insane.
		Like Steve O's.
		Become like a sober guy with like a very popular podcast.
		I think Knoxville does his own shows and everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, and Bill Maher, he was like, I'll come on your show, but you can't smoke pot or I'm a recovering addict.
		And Bill Maher's like, No, that's fucking wow.
		It's like, dude, that's kind of fucked, bro.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Wow, it's like also so try hard with Bill Maher.
		Is that like the point of the show?
		Like, come smoke some pot with me and we'll talk on a podcast.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did he smoke out with you, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fuck yeah, he did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I had some of his booze, but I didn't smoke.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He did inhale too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So he wants to get stoned with his guest.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's the point of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I, I, I, Bill's fantastic.
		He had a dark.
		Patch in the late 2010s, and he has pulled back out of it and he has reclaimed his status.
		It's people like that he's been hitting out of the park.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Make me say, like, I hate communism, but not the communists.
		Like, Bill Maher used to be a right wing liberal guy like I used to be, and he's just seen the truth and seen reality.
		And people of all political affiliations can do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was disappointing because I grew up listening to him and he was always rational.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he had this period in like 2017, 2016 to 2020 where he was just TDS libtard bullshit.
unidentified		Nuts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And like, I'm like, what the fuck, Bill?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Then, comedian originally, right?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, stand up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just, he does political, it was political, cultural commentary, and he's been doing it since like 92 or something.
		And, uh, but in the past several years, he's actually started paying attention again.
		And watching him just rip these woke losers to shreds has been glorious.
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ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That encyclopedic brand.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		What's that Trump hater's name?
		He's also a comedian.
		It's not Jimmy Fallon.
		I was trying to look it up.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Doar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not, not Seth Myers.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Not a real comedian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Doar's gone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's Kirk posting in his real posting all day.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you talked to him?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you talked to him lately?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's what keeps paying the bills.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's about to go on his show in a couple of weeks.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's going to be really interesting.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So he'll be out of his Zionist show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, I'll tell you this.
		I believe that many of these people are terrified and they deep down, they're lying to themselves.
		So, the economy is really bad right now.
		One way I can track the economy is ad rates on social media.
		We're a decently sized media company in terms of volume, how much viewership we get.
		And I explained this during COVID.
		The economy gets really bad.
		You'll see your ad rates drop in weird ways.
		And so, right now, ads are really, really low for everybody.
		The reason why is most ads on YouTube are small businesses that spend a couple hundred bucks.
		A small diner will say, We're going to spend $300 on YouTube advertising to only people in our neighborhood that we have a diner now.
unidentified		It's open.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This means I might make $3 out of the $300 for that diner because if the diner is operating in this area and they spend $300, those views are targeting this area.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are a lot of small diners.
		When small businesses stop spending money, that's the real hit.
		No one really cares about the $60, $70 million spent by Coke because $70 million given to 1 billion views per month is a drop of water in the ocean.
		All the small businesses are the ocean.
		When the small businesses can't afford three to $500 bucks on ads, that's when you see your ad rates start taking a massive hit.
		This happened during COVID.
		Again, we're seeing it now.
		So I think people like Jimmy, I think a lot of others saw their ads decline.
		And then when they made videos about Erica Kirk, their ad rates went up.
		Because for some reason, Erica Kirk has an RPM comparable to finance.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're getting $5 to $8 RPMs on politics and $20 on Erica Kirk.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Why?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Why is Erica Kirk?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's, there's, there's, look, I'm running Google Ads right now.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a Google Ad Manager I talk with on ads.
		I have been running ads for over a decade on Google, working with Vice and with Fusion.
		I know exactly how Google Ads work.
		I know exactly how YouTube ads work.
		And there is no, there is only, there are two explanations for the Erica Kirk high RPM.
		Someone at YouTube has tilted the algorithm to funnel money towards content on Erica Kirk.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone externally is intentionally dumping money into the term Erica Kirk.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's one of those two.
unidentified		I think it's that.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be external.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, so it could be that.
		How would you do it?
		It's nation state level because you would need $100 million to spend over the past eight months.
		And what you do is you go on Google Ads with a series of accounts and say, run a commercial for this product.
		And it'll be, you know, like a squirt gun for kids.
		And you'll say, I want this product to run on content related to Erica Kirk.
		You'd intentionally have to say that.
		So, what happens then is when someone makes a YouTube video, YouTube's algorithm automatically says, We've got a high volume of Erica Kirk purchases and we need to fill that inventory, promote videos on Erica Kirk.
		All of a sudden, you make a video on Erica Kirk, you're going to get double the viewership and double the money.
		So, Jimmy goes off on it.
		And the stories that I've heard is that when people have tried talking to Jimmy about how he's going too far, he plugs his ears and says, Stop, stop, stop.
		I want to hear it.
		And I think the reason why is that these people know they're full of shit.
		And they're doing it for money and they're lying to themselves.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be a very, very fun show for me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are you going to ask him about it?
		Just ask him this Does Erica Kirk have the power of government?
		Like, can she declare a war or enact a law or anything like that?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to ask him about it.
		I feel like, I mean, I'm going to try to be respectful because it's his show and I want to go on to talk about the Bitcoiners.
		But Jimmy generally will bring things up.
		Whether his guests are comfortable with it or agree with it or not, because he's just a little confrontational.
		I don't think that he's doing it to be nasty or mean, you know, but that's just sort of his style.
		So I won't be surprised if we get into it.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I love the guy.
		We get along great.
		I've never sensed any malice out of that guy.
		I mean, I've seen him get fucking pissed for a minute, but then he's like back to normal Jimmy.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I just think the Erica Kirk attacks are just so grossly malicious.
		And I see people that I like doing it.
		And it's like, it's hard to wrap my head around it.
		I'm just like, I don't understand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they're making money.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be more than just that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's the thing, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Timcast has always just made more money than most of our competitors because we're just better at it for a variety of reasons.
unidentified		So.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not the first to do this, but we create our own IP and our own sponsors.
		If we don't sell an ad slot, we do Cast Brew, Timcast, we do Boonies, Skateboards, and things like that.
		So in the early days, everybody was fighting for sponsorships.
		You'll notice now that, like Logan Paul talks about it, make your own IP, own the company, and sponsor yourself, and then sell the IP after the fact.
		We've been doing that for a long time, but a lot of people don't do this, and they rely solely on YouTube programmatic ads.
		And you don't make a lot of money doing that.
		We've diversified our revenue streams across the world.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Cyber revenue, for instance.
		I mean, good God, at one point, we were like, Can we survive off YouTube revenue?
		If they cut the fucking show, if we say COVID was a scam, so we put it into $10 a month or whatever, you pay your monthly, and thank God, because we're able to stay in integral.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		When does it end?
		Are we going to be stuck with just like Erica Kirk being tormented through the midterms?
		It's going to crash.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's going to happen is once midterm spending kicks off, which is going to get massive, I will say this redistricting efforts may put the kibosh on that.
		With districts becoming uncompetitive, there's going to be no reason to spend ad dollars.
		We actually see a stifling of ad spending in the political space.
		They're very happy because they no longer have to look.
		If you're a donor, you're like, I don't got to spend money on our public, and they just win if we do it this way.
		So it's pretty fucking nuts.
		However, what should happen is that $5 to $10 billion in ad spending should drop on the internet based on all the different congressional seats from all the different packs.
		That will drown out any of the bullshit.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It will just go away.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right now, in the beginning of the year, in Q1, there's no ad spending.
		The marketing budgets for most companies haven't been finalized, so you get very limited spending.
		It kicks up into Q2, which we're starting to see it.
		Come back a little bit.
		August is when things level out.
		And then December, it's fucking balls to the wall.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we take the last two weeks of December off because, you know, family.
		However, if we ran the show through the holidays, our viewership would go down, but our revenue would triple.
		What happens at the end of the year is that all the companies dump their marketing budgets.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's say, like Coca Cola says, we got 100 million for the year.
		They don't get approval in Q1.
		At the end of Q1, they finalize, okay, this is the budget we're doing.
		And then they start spending in Q2.
		By Q4, they go, What do we have left?
		It's December.
		We still have 14 million.
		Dump it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Polar bear commercials.
unidentified		Yep.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Polar bear commercials.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then your revenue just fucking goes through the roof.
		And then January hits and it crashes.
		So right now, we're post.
		Here's what happens presidential cycle, billions of dollars are spent.
		No one will shut up about it.
		We were getting hundreds of thousands of concurrences, like 100 plus thousand concurrences, crazy.
		Then after Trump's reelected, the question is the first hundred days, right?
		Everybody cares about what's going on.
		So you'll maintain a little bit of viewership.
		However, After the holidays, politics is dead.
		This happens every four years.
		Your viewership will decline, your ad rates will decline.
		We know this.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Everything is dead in January.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But in a post presidential cycle, pre midterm, there's nothing to talk about.
		So political content dies.
		There are a lot of mid, I would say, like middle class political commentators these days that don't understand how to survive this.
		I know about this.
		I've been doing this for 15, 20 years.
		So we plan every year like, what's our plan for Q1?
		What's our plan for Q1 per cycle?
		Presidential year, we just swim in money.
		So, it's like January of 2028, I'm going to get the money hose and just spray it out there, and we're all going to jump in like Scrooge McDuck.
		This year, it sucks for everybody.
		So, if you are a middle class commentator, maybe you have 100,000, 200,000 subscribers, you're just screaming Erica Kirk and bashing your face on the table because it's the only thing they're making money.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And if you think about your employees, they're probably like, I don't want to fire my third editor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And if I stop talking about Erica Kirk, I got to fire my editor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How much you want to bet Jimmy made a video putting out the fake news?
		Luke Gowski did.
		Luke made a video about how Daily Wire fired half its staff.
		And I texted him, I'd say, hey, that's not true.
		And he goes, what do you mean Candace Owen said it was true?
		And I was like, she also said my brother tried to kill me.
		What the fuck, bro?
unidentified		Oh, really?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Media literacy is at an all time low, but I think these guys know that they're pushing bullshit and they're doing it for the clicks.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Even Luke, despite his.
unidentified		I don't know.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I just saw Luke at the Bitcoin conference.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So it's like, useful idiot, or what do you think about Clint Russell?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to say it again about Clint Russell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Clint Russell made a video that said Israel derangement syndrome debunked with a picture of me going, and he knows my argument on Israel is not about Gaza, the West Bank, or military.
		It's about people who claim that their water faucet was running when they came home and Israel did it.
		It's the people who claim that the police are secretly arresting the homeless in Ohio because Israel's paying them to do it.
		And I'm like, okay, that's insane.
		Okay, that's derangement.
		You think Israel's around every corner.
		So he made a fake video presenting a fake argument for me because he wants to get views.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Relationships are too important.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's not good to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to collars.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got Mo Farmer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know it's easy to make money putting Tim's face in your mouth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't talk about him a lot.
unidentified		Oh, bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good meeting.
		When Mary Morgan made a comment about that video game, Pragmata.
		When Mary Morgan made a comment about Pragmata, all these people were like, Tim Poole employee says thing.
		And I'm like, how about you just put Mary Morgan says thing?
		The problem is, Tim Poole as SEO and AEO gets more, or AO it's called, gets more notice, gets more attention.
		So anyway, sorry, brother.
		Hit it.
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no problem.
		But first of all, I want to not throw gas on the fire.
		So I want to remind a lob.
		Not to, when I'm talking about libertarians, I'm talking about individuals and not a group.
		I'm sure he understands that you don't want to throw a group under the bus.
		And my question is for Angela.
unidentified		Sure.
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Should the Libertarian Party be abolished?
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jeremy Kaufman?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen Jeremy talking about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I need to apologize to everybody.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's not super helpful for Jeremy because he needs to get delegate status at the National Convention.
		I mean, you know, if I could wave a magic wand, I would like get rid of it and start over.
		But I'd, it's like, it's not possible to just literally abolish it because it exists in 50 states.
		It's like Terminator you kill it and it'll just reconstitute.
		Yeah, I don't know.
		I use it and view it as a tool in a very different way than the average person does.
		I like to use it as a kingmaker.
		And I don't think that.
		The kingmaker tool should be gotten rid of.
		You know, the spoiler tool is not so exciting the way that the average person, you know, the average party member uses it.
		Does that sort of answer?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What did Kaufman say about abolishing it?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he just said it should be abolished.
		I mean, he was just kind of trolling, I think.
		Well, he's also approaching it from the perspective of the Free State Project, where they have libertarian concentration and they have a majority on the House.
		Like the Free State movement, the Free Staters have like.
		You know, if not a majority of members, they have a majority of influence.
		And so they don't, they're not worried about it.
		Now, I would also, I would counter that though, with all due respect.
		I am a donor to the Free State Project.
		One of their standard bearers and their philanthropers is sitting in federal prison.
		So, you know, should we be paying attention a little bit what's going on at the federal level?
		Yes, you know, division of labor.
		And to that extent, you know, like I would, I like to use the party as a tool to advocate for Ian.
		You know, hey, you know, if Ian can get free, you know, let me go flex on these people to drop out of these races and take some pressure off of you.
		And then they can feel so good about it because they got their guy free, you know, and it doesn't have to be a zero sum game.
		It's not, it shouldn't be zero sum.
		It should just be used like differently.
unidentified		Gotcha.
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Also, I have a second part to my question.
		There's a prominent Mises libertarian I'm hearing that's been kind of working with Muslims and gripers to oppose Trump's agenda.
		Like, I think it was referring to the guy who took the gummy before he came up on stage and crashed out on the last convention.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't really claim him.
		Michael Ruchtenwald.
		I think the whole situation is unfortunate.
unidentified		Israel rot.
unidentified		What the fuck?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I wish him the best of luck in life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, he's a Jew poster.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's gone Jew crazy.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think that Michael Ruchtenwald has had a really tough time in the last.
		Few years, and I just hope things work out for him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did he have a personal breakdown after that?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There was some tragedy in his personal life.
		There were some deaths, and just family struggles.
		I don't want to blast him for it.
		I hope that everything works out for him.
		Obviously, I'm not real crazy about his commentary on Jewish people.
		But yeah, if he wants to work with Muslims, he can do that.
unidentified		Gotcha.
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Ed, does anybody want to add anything?
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		And I want to just throw my shout out on AT for Liberty and his libertarian nationalist movement.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Austin Peterson.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I like that guy.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Austin Peterson.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a friend.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll add to that.
		I think political parties should be abolished as per George Washington's suggestion, and we should just run and get people to vote for us through the internet video.
		I'm kind of joking, but I'm kind of serious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think you should remove party from ballots.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There'll be no DRR.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I love that idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or how about write in only?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No more multiple choice.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's a libertarian, one of the party founders.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's his passion project, just write in only.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It used to be.
		The way it used to work is that the parties would give you a piece of paper that had the names of everyone they wanted you to vote for.
		You'd go in and then you'd write down those names from the paper they gave you.
		Then they said, how about we just let them give that paper?
		They'll sign their name to it.
		It'll be their ballot with the names on it because they're voting for the party.
		Okay.
		Then they were like, let's make it multiple choice.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't like the party.
		Like, I don't like partisan primaries.
		I like, like, I'd like to be able to go in and vote however I want, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm curious about Randy Fine's primary in June.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cause Dan Bilzerian's very well known.
Contrarian Show Guest Rules 00:08:10
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's insane.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		What is he?
		I mean, what's his voting block?
		What is that?
		Three, four percent?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's why I'm saying it'll be interesting to see.
		Like, will he?
		So here's the thing.
		I think these people, like, um, Jake Shields used to be kind of a normal guy.
unidentified		Yes, he did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But when you're weak willed, all it takes is for a few mean comments to turn you into whatever they want to turn you into.
		So, what you do is you go to someone like Jake Shields, you get 50 bot accounts.
		Anytime he posts, you insult him and say, Dude, I used to like you, but what the fuck are you saying?
		And then he'll eventually start changing his opinion to fit it.
		It's really easy.
		All you got to do is go on Fiverr, get a couple of Indian guys, and say, Anytime Jake Shields posts about cooking food, give him a thousand retweets.
		He will get off the Jew thing in two seconds.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		We talked about this a while ago with Fresh Fit podcast.
		How you used to be dating?
		No, they just got botted and like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see this about them.
unidentified		No?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Russian Food?
unidentified		No.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That bought it into talking about Jews?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Like, they were just watching the Twitter algorithm and they're like, oh, I'm just talking about Jews.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That might be, but isn't Myron Muslim and hates the Jews?
unidentified		I can't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, I think that was longer standing for them.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You think it was longer standing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a fitness podcast I've never named where it was a single white dude who used to do fitness videos and now all he does is complain about Jews.
unidentified		Oh, geez.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Myron is Muslim.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, like, Jake Shields is an MMA fighter who was attacking wokeness and now all he does is scream the Jews.
		It's fucking wild.
		They fried that dude's brain.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's just not going to help you in your life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just not real.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's just not going to.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like it's a military alliance.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Israel and U.S. have been.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not talking about Israel.
		I said the Jews.
		That's another.
		Jake Shield is not talking about Israel.
		No, no, no.
		Stop, stop, stop.
		We've got to clarify this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It takes hours, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jake Shield is not talking about Israel.
		He does sometimes.
		I'm saying the Jews.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Bulzerian, the Jews.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		There's no council of the Jews that meets in the United States where just regular Jews get like a beep, alert.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, there was that one time in the White House and there were a lot of Jews telling Trump what to do, and he was begging them, please, Please have mercy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I thought that was weird.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's like, please, God, send me your Messiah.
		There's the Jewish Mafia, which I heard is very influential.
		I don't know a lot about it.
		I heard it was extremely powerful.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, Michael Rechtenwald's brain turned to jello.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
unidentified		Awkward.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I still never met him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't here.
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		There was a very famous Jew who funded the Revolutionary War.
unidentified		Who?
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I can't think of his name offhand.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		All of the Austrian.
		Economists that the Mises Caucus loves are Jewish.
		So it was just try to remind everybody, you know, Haim Solomon.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He helped fund the revolution.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's awesome.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man, there's a that's quite a tribe here, man.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Darn those Jews being giving us money.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's really darn them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess is it uncommon for like bloodlines to die to continue?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dan Bolzerian has 14% probability to win the primary, according to Kalshi.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Bro, if he comes on the show and I don't know if he has a real estate in the district though.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And I'm sure Randy Fine has developed a lot of like Republican allies in his time in the state legislature in that district, I believe, as well.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Randy Fine sounded so much less insane on your show than he does on social media.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I watched Austin and I watched him.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he's the only one.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I feel like a lot of people talk a big game on Twitter, come on the show, and kind of sound like pussies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, he told us he won't come back if we invite Dan Bilzerian on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I said, well, he's invited on.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, well, that's like ridiculous.
		But I mean, like he would do himself like a great favor, a great service if he would.
		You know, sound on social media the way he sounded on your show.
		I still didn't agree with everything he said, but I was like, oh, okay, because I thought you were like maybe really nuts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's easy to rage bait on Twitter, but then like when you're like a chihuahua with a fence, there's like two chihuahuas and they're screaming, you move the fence and they just like freeze.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people talk a big game on different social media platforms, come on IRL and other shows, and all of a sudden shut down.
		I thought it was really funny how Fuentes does that a lot too.
		Talk a ton of shit on his show, talk a ton of shit on Twitter.
		I think it's funny.
		And then he'll come on this show and he'll just act very.
		Were you on?
		I remember watching the show when he was on here.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was on.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He just seemed like a very kosher conservative.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Twitter is one offs.
		Long form conversations are different.
		If you watch Nick's show, it's very different.
unidentified		I found.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, but he behaved differently on his show than he did with your show.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you're alone in a room, you can go fucking insane to the camera and no one can stop you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you're alone with other people, you have to be human.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me give a shout out to these retards.
		We had Nick Fuentes on.
		Let him say whatever he wants.
		And I said, I'm not bringing Nick on to do a struggle session.
		That's fucking retarded.
		Nick Fuentes is a guy with opinions.
		There is news.
		We talk about news.
		He can tell me what his opinion on the news is.
		If something comes up, we'll have a discussion.
		We disagreed on a few things.
		It was cordial.
		Randy, fine.
		Says a lot of shit, has offensive opinions.
		I'm not going to put him through a struggle session.
		The fucking Jew posters were like, let's go, Nick Fuentes.
		Awesome you had him on, Tim.
		Randy Fine comes on in the exact same capacity.
unidentified		What the fuck are you doing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, the same thing I did with Nick Fuentes.
unidentified		Go fuck yourself.
unidentified		Totally.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's this other guy, Caleb Hammer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You guys ever watch his.
unidentified		Of course.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's super intense on his show, but then when he goes on other shows, he's real calm.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		People complained to me that they were like, you should tell Tim not to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, what have Randy Fine on?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was like, did you ask him about Nick Fuentes?
unidentified		Or Vosh?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No, I just, I'll just not respond to that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you should respond.
unidentified		I thought that was a pretty good question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You should respond with a list of all of the controversial people we've ever had on the show.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You had Kanye on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he walked out because I didn't even yell at him.
		I was just like, I don't think the Jews are.
		I'm out of here, man.
		It's fucking stupid.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The idea that people go to others and to try to get Tim to say to Tim to like not have guests on or fire people.
		I think it's totally insane.
		And you must not know Tim at all because if you know Tim at all, like thinking that somebody could come to him and say, hey, you shouldn't have that guest on, I feel like you really don't need to know the type of person who Tim is at all to think that would work and not only try to encourage Tim to do so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's Randy Fine said.
		I was told this, I didn't talk to Randy about it, but we got a message my team conveyed to me that Randy said if Dan Bulzerian comes on the show, he will never come back.
		And I went, oh.
		So when's Dan coming on?
		Like, what the fuck?
		I told him when he announced he was coming on the show, Dan Bulzerian's team met us up, said they want to come on the show.
		And I was like, I literally said to Lisa, I was like, I mean, As long as it's not just about the Jews, you know what I mean?
		I got no problem if he brings up some.
		Like, if in the course of conversation he mentions Jews, it's fine, but I'm not going to spend two hours just talking about Jews.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is a news show.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're all over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Same thing with Nick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When Nick comes on, we pull up articles, we talk about the news.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing people ever want to do more than what they're told they can't do.
unidentified		It's wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's not really me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It depends.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's just wildly inappropriate.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You're a bit of a contrarian to tell someone he can't have on their show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are not bringing on Dan Bilzerian because Randy Fine threatened us.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Randy Fine threatened us because I told him Dan asked to come on the show.
		We did not bring on Nick Fuentes because people spam blasted us saying you have to have Nick on the show.
		We were like, I don't know, we'll have Nick on the show when it makes sense and we feel like having Nick on the show.
		And I thought it was a great show.
		So, and I, and, and I don't, I didn't have Ye on the show because, like, oh, we're going to piss everybody off.
		I was like, oh, that'll be, it'll be really interesting.
		I like to talk to him.
		And then I got a bunch of people hitting me up being like, I don't have Ye on the show.
		You can't do it.
		And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
unidentified		Cheap.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Platform.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, anyway, caller.
unidentified		Yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Caller, did that answer your question?
		I mean, do you have anything to shout out?
		Let's, we'll get to the next caller soon.
		What did you want to shout out?
mo farmer in unknown ▲ ● ▼		No, I shouted out AP.
		You answered most of my questions, and thank you.
		Have a great night.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in, brother.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		AP for Liberty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Next up, we've got Mellow Maverick.
		What's going on?
unidentified		Hey.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Mellow?
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Evening.
unidentified		Greets.
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I hope everyone's doing well.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		God willing.
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		A little sore.
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		So sorry.
unidentified		Go ahead.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm a little sore.
		I was moving for the last few days.
		It's been a lot of lifting, but continue.
Platform Freedom and Opinions 00:06:15
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I was wondering, Elon has made noises about funding people running for office.
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I was wondering if he should include a legal addendum to it stating that if you violate what you promise on the campaign trail or publicly, that you'll have to pay back everything because these wallets only seem to respond when they're hurt in their wallet, not at the ballots.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm under the impression that the candidates can't make explicit promises like that to their donors in writing.
		To follow up on that point, though, I think it was very funny because Musk was heavily implying that he would support.
		Massey financially in his primary, and he quietly pulled out of the party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Massey, it's actually really tight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, he might lose.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, hopefully.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He hasn't donated to Massey.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And he said he would.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Like, he strongly implied that he would really booey him.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think he said it literally on social media.
		I don't think that Elon should do that because I think he'd get in financial trouble.
		And unfortunately, candidates jump into politics.
		They're really naive.
		They get in and they're like, oh crap, that campaign promise I made, there's literally no way that I can do that.
		And it's not always them being scumbags.
		It's them just having no clue how things are going to be.
		Being naive.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, I think it would be better if he was like, I will fund, you know, certain people one time and you're going to have to meet XYZ standards if you want any funding to get reelected.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And that would probably work out better.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you think, this is a little bit of an aside, but do you think that Trump's no new wars policy was a.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Intentional lie, and he was planning on Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, or that it just he got into power and he's like, you know what, there's no other way.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't think it was an intentional lie at all.
		I mean, I think they probably also anticipated that Iran would wrap up super fast.
		And, you know, from a libertarian perspective, it's just impossible to calculate.
		I mean, from any perspective, right?
		I guess it's just impossible to make a really accurate prediction of how something like that's going to go down.
		They were right on Venezuela.
		It was not a war.
		They, boom, they took him out.
		Most libertarians disagree with it, which is fine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You didn't say no new military.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's the issue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is the libertarian disagreement with Venezuela?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That we shouldn't be interfering in foreign affairs of other countries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So isolationism?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		From a military perspective.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so Venezuela stole our oil assets.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Venezuela did more than that.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But in terms of the U.S. going in and saying we're taking our oil back, Libertarians believe that if our stuff is stolen by a foreign country, we should not do anything about it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think that most of them who made those sort of assertions were ignorant.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yes, totally.
unidentified		That explains it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is how I feel on the war with Iran as well.
		It's all first ordered thinkers.
		It's just like, but war is bad.
		It's like, okay, well, what's happening and why is it happening?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is your cheeseburger good?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because there's a reason it's cheeseburger.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I haven't expressed a strong opinion about it because.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not a fan.
		I think it's got great risks.
		It's not the same as Iraq or Afghanistan.
		It's similar to Venezuela, not quite.
		It's worse than Venezuela.
		Venezuela thought was good.
		What does it mean for intervention?
		We go into foreign countries because of affairs affecting their country in the region, and then we try, we intervene through military force with troops.
		That's anti intervention.
		We don't do that.
		Does that mean that we let people steal our stuff?
		No, that's the purpose of military defense.
		So people are like, I thought you were anti war, Tim.
		I'm anti intervention specifically.
		I'm very critical of most of the US's wars in my lifetime.
		However, the idea that we would let Iranians bomb cargo ships in the Red Sea, for which we have a vested interest, especially with oil deals in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region, intervention is we are going to regime change Iran because they're killing their citizens.
		That is a fuck off.
		The fuck?
		We're not going to go to China.
		We're not going to go to these other fucking countries.
		Don't fucking go in there.
		Venezuela is wholly different.
		Cuba is wholly different.
		Iran is on the border.
		Yeah, it's in between.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think it's about how the wars are carried out, too, or completely.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Completely different, and that changes the calculation.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, and libertarians are also very skeptical of the assertions that Iran is responsible for such a huge amount of state sponsored terrorism.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They're very skeptical.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Wait, how do you figure?
		What does that mean?
		Is Hezbollah not mostly funded by.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not even that, the Houthis.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, but I guess we'll go one by one.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm giving you the opinion that I hear all the time.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, but what do you personally think?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't talk about what I personally think.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe Hezbollah is funded by Iran?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I don't share a personal opinion on that because of the job application process I'm going through right now.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's a crazy thing to like, I don't know.
		It's a fact based thing.
		They are funded by Iran.
		So I don't know.
		Well, I mean, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me just clarify.
		She is saying, I cannot publicly state this issue right now.
		She's not saying she doesn't know.
		She's saying she's not going to tell you for a certain reason.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		For a political reason.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You're not willing to.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you can frame it however you want, but you're not going to understand.
		You're not going to bait me into.
		I'm not interested in it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm not trying to bait you into telling the truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just say, Lad, she's the chair of a faction in a political party, deeply involved in presidential electoral politics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And if she's saying, like, I'm not going to bring up an issue on that because it could be divisive in the Libertarian Party, then she's not going to say it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I know, but the specific issue that's being divisive here is whether or not it's actually true or not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		My point is You're totally, it's going over your head, dude.
		I let the Mises Caucus guys express their opinion on the Iran war, which is the typical Libertarian opinion.
		I don't say, you don't get to say that you're anti war.
		Like, if you look at the Mises Caucus social media, it's very clear.
		My personal opinion, I don't put out there right now because of personal reasons, not Libertarian Party reasons.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm asking your opinion on a fact.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not going to answer it.
Animal Farm Movie Discussion 00:05:22
unidentified		Okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, you did answer it the way you wanted to.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fair enough.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I did give an answer.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's, I don't know.
		It was a very political answer.
		So I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you got to get better at your political answers.
		You got to say, that's a great question, Lott.
		And it's great questions like that that make America so much better.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think your answer speaks for itself.
		It's kind of spineless.
		I feel like it's very complicated.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You could ask me all sorts of shit that I wouldn't answer.
unidentified		That's okay.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's a very simple question.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I'll just take it because.
		What's going on in my personal life is more important than pleasing you.
		Yeah, it's more important.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would like to please you right now.
		Let's go, let's move on.
		Let's please the entire panel and move on to the next caller.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Anything you want to shout out?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Specific detail.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It seems so odd to be beating around the bush on, but I mean, if that's what it's got to be.
unidentified		Caller.
		Caller.
		What do you think?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did that answer your question?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you have a follow up or something you'd like to shout out?
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		No, I just want to say, Carter, you got to pump up the volume.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, that's all my mic.
unidentified		Pump up.
unidentified		Pump up.
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm talking about the movie.
unidentified		Oh.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
unidentified		Because the way you look?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No idea.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Pop up the volume.
unidentified		Oh.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I'm thinking about sound right now.
mellow maverick in unknown ▲ ● ▼		It's Richard Slater.
unidentified		Ah!
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's funny.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Y'all have been saying that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You are pulling that hard right now, by the way.
unidentified		All right, brother.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, thanks for calling in.
unidentified		Who's that?
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Next up, we've got Tiger Tank.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, brother?
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		What's up, dude?
unidentified		Hi, Tim.
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		My question tonight is In lieu of the recent box office bombing of Animal Farm, do you still feel like you've been.
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Giving the milk away for free, so to speak, with all the negative press you gave the movie, or do you think you were crucial in tanking the film?
unidentified		Neither.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think I was influential to a certain degree for a lot of people when I called it out and refused to accept that money, as was my intention.
		I don't think I'm the reason the movie bombed.
		I think the movie bombed because nobody wanted to see it in the first place.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It didn't look like a good movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The trailer got attacked mercilessly.
		So I didn't start the trend of attacking it.
		And they had an opportunity to try and muster up some goodwill among their fans and the guild, and they chose to just lie instead.
		So, you know.
		I would say vindication because a lot of their views that have come out have backed up everything I've said about the movie.
		Like, non political people being like, this was not Animal Farm.
		Talking about like Old Major is literally not even in the film.
		Like, they could have had Bernie Sanders in the film at least.
unidentified		Shit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If they want to make it anti capitalist, they didn't.
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Well, my follow up to that is do you think the actual point of the show is just anti money, period?
		Nothing else.
		Not anti capitalist or anti communist, just anti magic paper.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you use the film?
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I watched your breakdown.
		I don't have Angel Studios and I didn't care to give them my money.
		But the way you explained it, that is the impression I got that they just don't like money, period.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know about that.
		The film is meant to be critical of mainstream capitalist structures without accounting for government interference.
		So I'm not a laissez faire free market guy, but I am a largely free market guy.
		I understand that government interference.
		Jams up the system and it causes problems.
		Subsidy for universities, for instance, drives up the cost of university.
		Subsidy for the medical system has created a tangled mess.
		Every country that does it.
		So if you want to criticize modern capitalist structures, you're going to be criticizing largely government interference and cronyism.
		But if the movie was actually anti cronyism the way they tried claiming in the first place, there would be one government actor in the film.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And there is literally at least one, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's not.
		There's not a single one.
		It's Elon Musk.
		Okay, so did you see the movie?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the movie's this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you read Animal Farm?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, very much.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Read it many times.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The movie is the bank is foreclosing on the farm.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Elon Musk's mom buys it and wants to slaughter the animals to recuperate some of the cost for buying the farm.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Farmer Jones couldn't pay the mortgage, so they're seizing the property.
		The animals don't want to die, so they fight back.
		But the bank says, you got to pay the mortgage, otherwise, we're going to come back.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They all team up, raise money, but the pigs take the profit for themselves.
		Napoleon gets in credit card debt, so he cuts a deal with Elon Musk's mom to sell off the farm in a private equity sale so that he can get a cash payout.
		The animals announce in Act Three, we must rebel.
		Elon Musk's mom builds a hydroelectric dam on the property.
		The animals plant explosives, blowing it up, killing all of her employees.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the pig swims up and says, we should work for each other because we want to, not because we have to, which is effectively a communist ethos.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So did Angel Studios just take like a big risk doing this?
		And maybe they didn't have any other.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the bigger risk was lying to everybody about what the movie was.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, one movie gets another.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they heard there was an Animal Farm movie and they were like, this would be huge.
		Our guild members would love it.
		It's got celebrities in it.
		They didn't watch the movie or read the script or understand what they were buying, bought shit, and then tried lying and were probably contractually obligated to promote it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That sucks.
unidentified		Yep.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That sucks.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		What else have they done?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sound of Freedom was their big one.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But in Animal Farm, Napoleon goes, he's like, here, I'm going to fart.
		And then he farts and goes, that's the Sound of Freedom.
		So it's like they're literally shitting on their own breakout hit.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They also did one called The Chosen, I think.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the Chosen.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I really like The Chosen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a series, though, right?
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I do like The Frozen as well.
Rush Limbaugh Legacy Impact 00:04:02
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Harmon brothers are cool, too, in person.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They were fun to talk to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, at this point, them canceling on us several times, refusing to discuss the show and lying about it, I do not respect.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Sucks.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope that turns around.
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		My last question, Tim.
		I'm a small business owner and I have an end goal for my company.
		You have been doing this many years and now you are starting a family.
		I believe you said you wanted to have more kids.
		Where is the end goal for your company?
		Are you just going to work till the day you die or are you going to hand the ring around?
unidentified		Well, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The end goal is to not die.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, My vision, my plan for this company and everything we're building is that I'll be 1,076 years old, floating around with a force field and anti gravity technology, lording over the world with laser vision.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And a billion grandchildren?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		I will beat Elon Musk to the punch.
		And I just need the capital to get there.
		And this was the easiest way to do it.
		So the end result is probably that we generate a host of talent that can run the show, do some other shows that make money, and invest in some other companies.
unidentified		Then.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Basically, just be old and lightly oversee everyone the work everyone is doing, help uh perpetuate success among the people in the space that are working here and other companies, and uh, you know, just have fun and then die, I guess.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Glenn Beck, I think, have a lot of baby, uh, the blaze.
		He sold the blaze in its entirety, and then he was taking like a million bucks a year or something.
		Which, not that that has anything to do with it, I don't know if he's happy with that.
		That was the point I brought that up.
		I don't know if he's happy that he sold off the blaze and he has no more creative control there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I probably is.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Probably he's got it's easier.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's probably got to a point where he was like, I just I'm done.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I loved it, but I'm done.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And like, he was an on camera talent guy anyway that had to now run a business.
		And he's like, What in the fuck?
		I just want to talk.
unidentified		Yeah, I want to do stuff.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think Tim's our generation's business about wanting to not do stuff.
		Rush Limbaugh, amen.
		Rush Limbaugh 2.0.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, there's much bigger personalities than me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Rush Limbaugh, who Tim's the most like of all the personalities, I don't think it's most like.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think most like, I don't know, something about him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I honestly think I'm more like a Bill Maher.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bill Maher was never super.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You're not funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the show we do is less like Rush Limbaugh and more like real time.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I am a moderate lib leaning to the right, independent leaning to the right.
		And I grew up watching Bill Maher.
		I don't ascribe to a lot of the far left of the Democratic Party or a lot of what the Democrats do, complain about it a lot.
		So Bill was never the biggest personality, but he was particularly prominent.
		It's not the biggest show, but it's particularly prominent.
		Rush Limbaugh was much more serious and much more conservative.
		Much more on one side.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I do that a bit too, but again, so does Bill.
		And obviously, I'm not, it's not a one for one to anybody.
		Everyone's unique.
		I don't do stand up comedy or anything like that.
		But I think this is more like real time than it is Rush Limbo.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you watch a lot of Rush growing up?
unidentified		No.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		A couple of my, who was it?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		The former Fox News 8 p.m. slot, Bill.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Riley?
unidentified		O'Reilly?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bill O'Reilly.
		Do you want anything to shine anything out?
		Got one caller left.
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
		So I'd like to shout out my wife.
		She does a lot of influence stuff, posts a lot on the farms.
		On TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook, it's Carly's Farms.
		And I'd like to shout out the Discord.
		Hopefully, here pretty soon, me and Glenn will be hosting a weekly history show where we do untold stories or lesser known stories and maybe possibly even do a history trivia show once a month.
unidentified		Cool.
unidentified		And that's it.
tiger tank in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me, guys.
unidentified		Cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in, brother.
		All right.
		And last but not least, we've got Taylor Lorenz's World War 11 vet.
		I can't read the rest of your name.
		It's too long.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, veteran.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		First off, got my question.
Hospital Stay and Organ Donation 00:07:07
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Tim, are you really going to be going down the cyborg route?
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I just, I don't see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The cyborg route?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have no tattoos and no piercings.
		I've never gotten my teeth fixed and I'm bald.
		I think I'm the last person who'd any kind of body modification.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Like, as the person who is most heavily body modified of everybody listening and everybody with an earshot, I just, I don't see you being the head in the jar with laser eyes.
unidentified		Nope.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I might put on like a VR headset to play Skyrim or something, but that's about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Would you get mutations?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, I can't say nope, absolutely, because I did do stem cells.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there you go.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I've done stem cells.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, I actually have the genetics of a Mexican baby girl in my body.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I probably.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		An aborted Mexican.
unidentified		No, that's not correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm going to do it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm going to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was umbilical stem cells from a natural birth.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Child is growing up.
		Is that what you're doing?
		Actually, it was a Mexican boy.
		It wasn't a girl.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm going to do it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's more extreme when you say nope.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He has a baby boy in him.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Cord blood banking for the next one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're going to do what?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Cord blood banking?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they save it, right?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		What is that for?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the baby might need it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or you might be.
unidentified		I think we might have done that.
		Oh.
		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you reuse the placenta?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Did I?
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I encapsulated it and I ate that shit.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I hear it's super good.
unidentified		You're right.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Fuck yeah, I did.
		Dried it out.
		I gave it to the midwife.
		So the whole thing was I had a horrible birth experience.
		Not every woman does.
		You know, I had to transfer to the hospital after 36 hours of labor.
		I would have toughed it out, but he was breached and I had vomited uncontrollably for only the first 14 hours of labor.
		Never threw up like with morning sickness.
		I had two black eyes from vomiting so hard.
unidentified		Whoa.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I was.
		And so we went, and they unfortunately gave me an epidural.
		And so then I had meconium, which is basically the baby pooped because the epidural, believe it or not, babies don't really like that shit.
		And so it stressed him out and he pooped.
		And then they cut me open.
		It was just a horrifying display and did a C section.
		And they were like, I was like, okay, and please bag my placenta and give it to my midwife who, you know, unfortunately couldn't deliver.
		And they were like, oh, why do you want your placenta?
		It's all dirty.
		And I was like, well, yeah, no shit.
		You know, she'll clean it up.
		And they were like, oh, it's really dirty.
		I was like, give me my organs.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		This is right after that.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Give me my organs, you bitch.
		You know, I was like, you're going to just keep it?
		Yeah, I know it's dirty.
		You and your hospital.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're going to sell it or something.
unidentified		Yeah, fuck off.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's mine.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		And I had to fight with them.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Was this right after your surgery?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, we're having a fight over it.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Like they just cut you up.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and Austin is there.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's fighting them too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I went to.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Wait, how'd you eat?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was in Loudoun County, tablet pills.
unidentified		Capsules.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Loudoun County, it's where all the rich people go.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They just say, yes, sir.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So that's my midwife was just like, oh, Austin, you should have heard the battle he got with this bitch of a nurse.
		And then he started, you know, like telling her, you know, like, you're not going to take our baby.
		They're like, oh, we got it.
		And he's like, I know what I'm doing.
		And she called him Dr. Google.
		She was like, okay, Dr. Google.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You wanted to take your baby from both of you?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		To take him to the NICU.
		They're like, he's not breathing.
		He's stressed.
		And then Austin's like, are you stressed right now having this argument with me?
		She like turned red.
		So good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, I always tell people go to the Rich People Hospital.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We went there and they said, anything you want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they were like, we're going to, I forgot what they were going to do the car seat test.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I said, and I will go through the whole time.
		They said, absolutely.
		And I followed them and I never left my daughter's side.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The problem is that the hospital we went to is the good one, but they were understaffed that week.
		And so it created this whole just shit show effect of like, they're like, oh, well, we don't have enough people in the regular nursery.
		So we're.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The one I went to, they were like, and what shots of vaccines would you like to get?
		And then we were like, which one should we get?
		And they were like, we recommend these.
		And we were like, we won't do those.
		We will do that one.
		And they were like, whatever you say.
		So in West Virginia, they force you.
		It's fucking wild.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They threaten you.
		We didn't have anything.
		And they did pressure us.
		In fact, they split us up and pressured us, which I was like, what?
		I was like, you want to disrespect my husband by pulling him over, asking him, and he says, no shots.
		And they go, well, we'll see about that.
		We'll ask your wife.
unidentified		Whoa.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I was like, No, he's correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're in agreement, you know, and they were like, I think the only thing we did was vitamin K.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We didn't do any vaccines or anything like that.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we did no vitamin K.
		We did no eye drops.
		We did like no nothing.
		And we left against medical advice.
		They were like, You have what is the thing that they say all the women have?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Preeclampsia?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I was like, I don't have preeclampsia.
		My blood pressure is high because I'm being terrorized by you and I haven't slept in 56 hours.
		And I feel unsafe in your care.
		And then finally, they were like, Oh, All right, well, you can go, but you have to sign this.
		I was like, I'm signing it.
		I just want you to know I'm not going to do any of that shit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We were like, you know what?
		We're not going to do that.
		We're not going to do eye drops.
		We'll do vitamin K.
		And they're like, okay.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		We were at the good hospital.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they were like, would you like any free food while we're at it?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They did give me food, and the food was much better than I thought it would be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was actually pretty good.
		They had an organic vending machine with legit food in it.
		It was really good.
		Well, I'm chia pudding with blueberries.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		So for listeners who don't know, I'm like seven months pregnant.
		So we're doing the next one.
		We're going to try again at home, prepared in case I start vomiting again.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you looked at a water birthing?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I got it all.
		I got the whole kit.
		I had everything.
		We just ended up having to go to the hospital.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, because of the long labor.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No, long labor, I could have toughed it out, but the severe dehydration, I wasn't able to just like get my shit together.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was it because of the long labor there was dehydration?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No, it was because I vomited for 14 hours in a row.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't keep any liquid down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I've heard all of these stories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy to me because it was not our experience.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly as you described, they separate you and they pressure you and then they lie to you too.
		I've heard stories where they say, like, your wife wants to get done.
		You go, what?
		That's weird.
		Let me go see them.
		They're like, no, we have to do it now.
		Dude, weird freaky shit.
		I also was just like, there is zero circumstance where anyone will separate me from this child right now.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, because you know what the fuck they're going to do?
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		No, you can swap it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But people do it all the time.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they could swap your fucking kid.
		They'll be like, okay, we're going to take your kid for a second.
		We'll be back.
		It's like, okay.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They tagged him with like some crazy magnetic device so we couldn't like run out of the hospital with him.
unidentified		What?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It was fucking nuts.
		They're like, oh, it's a security protocol so that no one takes a baby.
		I'm like, yeah.
		We just, I just, we basically were like, we're going to leave the hospital now.
		So I want my child and I don't have preeclampsia.
		And then the next day I get home, I've slept.
		You know, for the first time, 56 hours, no sleep after like major surgery.
		So I was, I was wrecked.
		And my blood pressure was normal.
unidentified		Wow.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It was totally normal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Caller, Taylor Lorenz's World War II veteran.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to shout anything out, add anything to that?
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		That was not my question.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean that tangent to be so long.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I know we're at time.
unidentified		Oh, you're good?
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
Warcraft Cataclysm Plot Twist 00:07:17
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to make you guys do another live.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's awesome.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's worth it.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm wide awake, babe.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I'm so sorry, guys.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Okay.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		There was a recent story about China banning AI being used to eliminate jobs.
		Do we think this is a fake out to get the USA to take its foot off the gas on AI?
		Or does China see the risk of a society where most people aren't working and is willing to ease off the gas at the risk of falling behind the USA in the AI arms race?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not a chance.
unidentified		It seems weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know it's a fake out, but not a chance.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was a very weird thing for the CCP to do when they're like, if they're as power hungry as we're led to believe, but it's essentially controlled authority, so they could do it.
unidentified		But it makes no sense.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I bet it's a law that they passed that they don't intend to use unless they feel like it arbitrarily in a couple of cases.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		For forced labor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The U.S. does similarly?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What was it exactly?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What was the law that they passed?
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I didn't see much about it.
		Raw's alerts tweeted it.
		Let me look real quick.
		Sorry.
		I had it up a minute ago.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not that big of a deal.
		They were trying to make it illegal, though.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, you know, do they think maybe by us?
		Leading the pack and descending into fully automated gay space communism, we'll destroy ourselves via like a class war, and then that's how they'll pull ahead.
		Maybe this subsidies trap.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We plug ourselves into the matrix and then just lie there and rot.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you're able to pull, I mean, that's what I've been doing, but you guys are terrible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This was the biggest complaint I had with the South Park Warcraft episode.
		They showed all the South Park kids got morbidly obese, which is a lie.
		Because what happens when you'd play World of Warcraft is you actually got really, really gaunt and thin.
		Because it's in back in the day, it was called a bio.
		So, if you were on a raid or a guild quest or something like a quest with your guild, you'd be like, hey, hold on, bio.
		Meaning, I got to go to the bathroom or I got to eat.
		And people would be like, bro, just wait.
		And if you were like, can't hold it.
		As for food, like me and my brother played Warcraft, we wouldn't eat.
		You'd be playing and you'd be like, I can't get up right now.
		We're in the middle of a raid and it's going to take six hours.
		And then when you're done, they're immediately like, hey, we're going to do another raid right now.
		You're like, let's go.
		And then it's like two days and you're like, damn, I haven't fucking eaten anything.
		So, you don't get fat, you get thin.
		So, people are going to put on VR headsets and they're going to waste away.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I lost half my 20th to a while, and I didn't get like super fat.
		And, you know, everyone in the room has seen me here except Angela, but, you know, I got a little poorly.
		Not a whole lot, and I'm skinnier now, but.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, never had any time to eat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When would you eat?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we were sitting in Dallaran.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My brother, we would, yeah, Dallaran didn't exist when we were playing.
		Oh, no, he actually did.
		I'm thinking a different city.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dallaran didn't exist in the beginning.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was just a broken dome in the early days.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you could blink into it.
		We'd order Calzones.
		We'd be like playing and be like, okay, we have to eat.
		So we just order some calzone from the local pizza place.
unidentified		What I would eat?
unidentified		Pizza?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eat one cheese calzone and that was it for the day.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ready made.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then we just got real skinny.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I played so much.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I smoked so much pot and played so much Warcraft that it, like, I don't remember.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what's wrong with you guys.
		Wow, it sucked.
		Warcraft 3 was where it was at.
unidentified		Wow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Warcraft 3 was okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was good.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, dude, Warcraft 1 was like the greatest thing ever done and they destroyed it.
unidentified		Wow.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I never tried Warcraft 1 in this game.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it all really woke now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily the.
		No, I don't think so at all.
		I think, actually, no.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I thought Blizzard had gone in a woke direction.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've gone in a child direction.
unidentified		They kind of did.
unidentified		Have they?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I haven't been keeping it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've gone in a child direction.
		So, like, it used to be kind of gritty.
		It was war, it was blood, and now it's kind of just Kung Fu Pandas and shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		That's too bad.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Warcraft 3, Dota, the good thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Warcraft 3 was like the dawn of the MOBA.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Warcraft 3 mods.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I thought Blizzard had gone woke.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there were some other.
unidentified		When.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Warcraft ended when they launched the first expansion.
		They should have never launched an actual expansion.
		And they cataclysm.
		The truth is, Burning Crusade was fine, Wrath of Liching was fine, but Cataclysm ended the game.
		When they restructured the whole original map and added flying, flying ruined everything.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, flying was Northren.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You think flying ruined it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, when they added flying to.
unidentified		Flying was BC.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was 200.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, Stop, stop, stop.
		You're all wrong.
		When Azeroth got flying, it was cataclysm.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, it was before that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are in your head.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		You're right, you're right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I flew around Northrend constantly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I didn't ever get to see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Northrend is not Azura.
		I'm sorry.
		When the Eastern Kingdom and Column Door got flying, it was Cataclysm.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I didn't have Cataclysm.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I got the third expansion, which is Northrend.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, in Burning Crusade, you can fly in Outland.
unidentified		Oh, oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Rather Lich King, you could fly in Northrend, but you could not fly in Column Door of the Eastern Kingdoms until Cataclysm, and that ruined the game.
		They only had the Griffin rentals.
		And they were like, we need to add flying to the game.
		The problem was, the original game was not designed for flying, so they redoed the entire map.
		How did they do it?
		A Cataclysm happens, and the map changed.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Soul Mask is a game going through that right now, too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They have an expansion where you can fly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they were like, A bunch of people launched vanilla servers and then Blizzard shut them down and then they launched Classic and then they did the same fucking thing again.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you play Warcraft 2?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		I had friends who played.
		I'm familiar with all of the storylines you're talking about, but I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The problem is they needed at some point to stop World of Warcraft and create World of Warcraft 2.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And revamp the game with new infrastructure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		At this point, the Warcraft universe, it's like a Jackson Pollock painting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, my question is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like the veil has been broken to the Shadowlands and there's like.
		17 continents that no one knew about, and like 15 interdimensional realities.
		And you can go back in time now.
		I'm just.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who's your favorite Warcraft character?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's fucking 700,000 now, and half of them grew up and died.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like Anduin's like 80 right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But which one's your best?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was a kid when I started playing Warcraft.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who's the best?
unidentified		Oh.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's only one answer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know you're going to say.
unidentified		Good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Arthas.
unidentified		Thrall, dude.
		What?
		Thrall.
		Thrall.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thrall, dude.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's the orc shaman.
		He's like the good guy of the orcs.
		He's the diplomat.
		Orcish diplomat.
		Arthas is cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, in Warcraft III, the scourge is spreading through Stratholm, a human city.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Like the movie.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And was that in the movie, the scourge?
unidentified		Didn't see it.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think they did.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think the scourge was in the movie.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was that the plot of the movie?
unidentified		Well, anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, as the leader, he decides to raise the town and kill everybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He eventually then becomes the Lich King, and the trailer for Wrath of the Lich King was just fucking epic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I like Uther a lot too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uther is cool.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's the old paladin that was like the mentor to the young kid that went crazy, that rage overtook him, and then he became the Lich King.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fuck.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Medivh.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Medivh was my dude.
unidentified		But the troll.
unidentified		It used to be so good.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Medivh's awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The movie was poorly done.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
Klingon Federation Alliances 00:04:32
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The problem is in the original game, orcs were evil.
		And the human world was invaded by orcs.
		You could choose to be good or evil.
		But then they were like, well, a lot of people identify with the orc side and want to play the orc.
		So, how do we remedy this?
		Well, the orcs aren't evil.
		They were a shamanistic culture that was tainted by the demonic phelps.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's stupid.
		It's just like everything else in culture.
		Things like orcs are great when they're on the fringe and we recognize that they're fringe.
		And then they're like, well, let's just subvert it and make it normal.
		Well, now it's fake and gay and lame, and I don't like it.
		You know, like.
unidentified		It's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was Warcraft 2 when they went that route.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		It's like.
		It's like drag queen story hour.
		No, leave that shit in West Hollywood for like drunk people at night or brunch.
		Don't put it in my normal life.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It would be cool if the orcs were still kind of.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They're on the edge.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Don't try to make them my normal life.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, if they were vicious, that would be cool.
		They'd make them a little too playful.
		I agree with that.
		They should be more warlike.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Let them be the thing that they are and stop trying to like make it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Klingons.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Like people.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually really love the Klingon expansion that they did with Next Generation.
		Fucking brilliant.
		And the problem with Star Trek is that they didn't learn their lesson, or at least the lessons that were learned were not transferred to the next generation of Kurtzman bullshit.
		So, Star Trek original series, Klingons are bad guys.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then, are you a fan of Star Trek?
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Not a huge fan, but I'm not a hater.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Next Generation.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Familiar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The show starts as a Klingon on a Federation ship.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think they did a good job of mixing it up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the story is they actually have one episode that's really great.
		It's kind of just a flashback episode.
		The Enterprise encounters Enterprise C coming through a portal.
		So the Enterprise responds to a distress signal at Kittimer.
		It's a Klingon colony where it's largely just civilians.
		The Romulans are blowing it up.
		In response to the distress signal, the Federation comes to aid their enemy, the Klingons, which.
		Proves to the Klingons the Federation not only are strong but honorable.
		So after this, they become allies.
		So this ended the war between the Federation and the Klingons because the Enterprise sacrificed itself.
		Brilliant writing that expands the universe and shows the expansion of this quadrant of the galaxy.
		In the next generation, you see the Romulans now starting to become allies of the Federation in some circumstances.
		Enemies for a long time, but then certain circumstances where they work together.
		And there's even great lines where, like, a Romulan says, I hope one day.
		Picard says, I hope one day, you know, this today will show our peoples that we can't have peace.
		And he says, I agree.
		And then they leave.
		And it's like, oh, man, I'm so excited.
		Then they're like, fucking J.J. Abrams goes, let's blow up Romulus for no reason.
		So they blow up Romulus, which creates a parallel universe.
		Oh, fuck all these people.
unidentified		Stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then Kurtzman comes in and goes, can we make everybody gay?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Last thing I'm going to say the reason I picked Thrall Warcraft is because he's a young shaman.
		The orcs are at war with the humans forever, they've been.
		He has a vision that this evil is coming, this burning crusade.
		So he travels to the human lands, risks his own life.
		To forge an alliance with the humans to defend against this greater enemy, similar with the Soviet Union and the Americans.
		Just saying, he's the man.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		The thing that I think Next Generation did a good job with was there were Klingons and they were like, okay, we're allies.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		I think your culture might still be kind of fucked up.
unidentified		Yeah.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		They didn't try to normalize it.
		They were like, we're allies.
		You got some fucked up shit over there.
		And same with Romulans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was brilliant how the Klingon Council is corrupt.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so Worf's dad was accused of being, who died at Kittimer, is accused of being, or a rumor to have died.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they find out later that he may have actually been brought to a prison in the clan from Romulus.
		They say he's accused him of a traitor who transmitted codes to the Romulans to allow them to bypass security to blow up the colony.
		But then it turns out it was Duras' dad.
		It's been a while since I watched all this stuff.
		I did watch it recently, technically.
		And then the high council is like, listen, we will fall into civil war if people find out a house of nobility is dishonorable.
		Worf, you don't live in the Klingon Empire and you serve in the Federation.
		We assumed you wouldn't even care.
		And so Worf is like, I will not be dishonored in this way.
		But then his brother gets stabbed.
		He has a half brother that he finds out about.
		And he's like, if people find out that we're related, he will be ruined as well.
		So Worf decides instead of standing trial to prove it, he accepts discommendation, admitted dishonor among the Klingon Empire, which is worse than death.
Star Trek Civil War Drama 00:01:12
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that the empire won't fall into civil war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But then it does anyway.
unidentified		It does.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		He's like about to commit ritual suicide at a certain point.
angela mcardle ▲ ● ▼		You're like, this is pretty hardcore, shitty culture.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But and then I, one thing I love about Klingon culture is that when Worf's wife is murdered by a high ranking Klingon, he finds him and murders him.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then, and then they're like, You killed him.
		He goes, I have claimed the right of revenge.
		And they go, Okay, fair enough.
		That was my mate.
		I have claimed the right of revenge.
		And they're like, Case closed.
unidentified		Klingon law.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you want to shout anything out before we go?
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		Shout out the Discord.
		Shout out the show I produce, the drive in with.
		T-Bone and Jessica.
		Our episode did go out a little late last night, but if you're a watcher, it is up.
		I was out catching Hunts of Virus last night, so I was a little late to get it started.
unidentified		Awesome.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown ▲ ● ▼		And you can follow me on Twitter at TaylorNZX.
unidentified		Thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, always great to have you, Angela.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Anytime.
		And for everybody else, we are back tomorrow and we'll be joined by, oh my God, Arn McIntyre.
		It'll be fun.
		He's a smart guy.
		I enjoy his company.
		Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
		We'll be back and we'll see you tomorrow.

Chapters

00:02:46 FBI Raid on Virginia Leader
00:06:27 Membership and Discord Community
00:22:13 Republican Seats in Congress
00:26:21 Immigrants and Voting Rights
00:29:11 Silk Road Illicit Activities
00:43:22 Communist Alliances Explained
00:58:19 South Korea Conflict Analysis
01:09:29 Zombies and Civil War Hypotheticals
01:25:08 Aliens, Communists, and Context
01:41:01 Death Threats Against Podcaster
01:51:25 Porch Incident Security Concerns
01:57:03 English Tonal Language Nuances
02:04:39 Bill Maher Political Commentary
02:14:27 YouTube Ads Revenue Boost
02:30:14 Contrarian Show Guest Rules
02:38:24 Platform Freedom and Opinions
02:44:40 Animal Farm Movie Discussion
02:50:02 Rush Limbaugh Legacy Impact
02:54:05 Hospital Stay and Organ Donation
03:01:12 Warcraft Cataclysm Plot Twist
03:08:29 Klingon Federation Alliances
03:13:02 Star Trek Civil War Drama