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April 10, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:08:08
MAGA In CIVIL WAR, Tucker Promotes LOW IQ Hats For Fans | Timcast IRL

Tim Pool and guests dissect right-wing media dynamics, criticizing Tucker Carlson's "low IQ" hats as a troll tactic while analyzing how influencers like Candace Owens flip narratives for clicks. The conversation shifts to political strategy, arguing conservatives must adopt casual attire to connect with working-class voters rather than wearing stiff suits. Discussions veer into conspiracy theories regarding Soviet alien hybrids, zero-point propulsion violating physics, and secret government breeding programs involving abducted humans. Finally, the hosts address Oracle's hiring of H-1B workers versus firing domestic staff, clarifying Black women's specific mathematical contributions at NASA before promoting upcoming debates and tour dates. [Automatically generated summary]

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Participants
Main
d
david pollack
09:49
g
george santos
27:10
i
ian crossland
13:21
p
phil labonte
07:15
t
tim pool
52:18
Appearances
c
carter banks
00:56
m
matt gaetz
oann 02:07
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Speaker Time Text
Trump Feud Escalates 00:02:03
tim pool
The feud rages on.
Donald Trump ripped into Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, Alex Jones, and they fired back Tucker Carlson with an epic troll.
After Trump called him low IQ, Tucker's got his number.
He's releasing hats that you can buy and wear that say low IQ on them.
That'll teach him.
This is basically the biggest story in politics right now.
I don't know if it's, it's not really the first time it's ever happened.
With DeSantis and Trump, you had that rift as well, and that healed.
So we'll see.
But of course, it is actually a rather slow news period.
So with drama, This is what everybody wants to talk about.
And I've been going off on Twitter.
I've had a lot to say about the grifting, the lies, the manipulations, and the nature of the internet itself.
So, we're going to talk about that for the most part today on this amazing Friday.
We're going to relax.
We're going to have fun.
We're going to have good times.
So, of course, before we get started, my friends, make sure to go to Cassbrew.com and buy some coffee.
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unidentified
He's back.
tim pool
George Santos.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
Who are you?
george santos
Who am I?
I don't know.
Who are you?
unidentified
That's a riff.
tim pool
My podcast host and the.
george santos
I was going to do a riff on the why are you gay?
tim pool
Well, actually, that's the question for you.
unidentified
George.
tim pool
Cut me.
Who's gay?
You are.
But anyway.
george santos
I'm not gay.
tim pool
Actually, I think everybody knows you.
Tucker Carlson Returns 00:15:13
tim pool
Some people probably have more disparaging ways to describe you than others.
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
I'm not everybody's favorite, but you know what?
I don't give a fuck.
unidentified
Oh!
phil labonte
F bombs are everywhere.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
There, George.
unidentified
Sorry.
david pollack
You didn't know the rules.
unidentified
Beep.
george santos
I know.
I do know the rules.
david pollack
Have you stopped breaking them?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
There you go.
george santos
Who lets children into the podcast?
tim pool
We also have David Pollack hanging out.
david pollack
Hey, everybody.
Thank you for having me.
unidentified
It's great to be here.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
david pollack
I ask that question every single day.
I host David Pollack primetime on the One America News Network.
tim pool
All right on.
Of course, Ian is here.
ian crossland
What's up, dog?
tim pool
Got to have a wild card in the mix.
We got Carter pressing the buttons.
unidentified
What's up?
tim pool
And Phil.
unidentified
Hello, everybody.
tim pool
Let's jump into the first story, a continuation of this ongoing drama.
Tucker Carlson trolls Trump after President's Furious nut job attack.
I love this.
So masterfully done.
Look at.
george santos
I love Tucker, but so dumb.
And I mean.
tim pool
Bro, look at this.
I'm sorry.
Like.
george santos
What is that?
I'm going to call Tucker and say, my friend, this is a bad idea.
And I like Tucker.
Tucker's a great dude to me.
We don't agree.
We've never agreed on pretty much much much.
And that's fine.
That's why I guess I have a great relationship and dialogue with him.
This is stupid.
And I'm going to tell him that.
tim pool
Dude, this is.
I have been saying.
george santos
This is silly.
tim pool
There is an effort to destroy the MAGA base.
There's a coordinated effort.
They've been trying really hard to make me anti Trump.
So, like, a bunch of prominent Trump supporters have been attacking me, putting me in the same camp as Tucker and all them.
I kind of like, I look at this and I'm just going, is this an op?
Like, do they not understand the optics of a bunch of conservative Tucker fans wearing hats at low IQ walking around?
ian crossland
It's really disturbing because most people don't know what this is in reference to.
They just are going to see people self promoting low IQ.
And it's like, what?
Tucker was baited into doing this with his own emotional.
unidentified
Bro.
No.
tim pool
No, I'm like, he's mocking it.
george santos
There's always somebody on the team.
No, no, no.
phil labonte
Yeah, they're like, oh, that's a great idea.
tim pool
Trump after the post and was going, and they're laughing together at all the people stupid enough to wear these hats.
george santos
I mean, look, or there's that too, right?
And we know that Trump will have a public spat with somebody and then kind of like.
tim pool
Right.
Like Elon.
No kissing makeup.
david pollack
You know what I think?
You've ever been to Disney World?
And you've seen the families that spend their year savings to take their kids to Disney World for a week.
And then by like three o'clock, the kids are napping, the parents are sweating, everybody's screaming at each other, everybody's screaming and crying.
unidentified
Shut up.
david pollack
We paid our life savings to have fun at Disney World.
unidentified
We're going to have fun.
david pollack
Put these Mickey Mouse ears on and shut up.
We're going to wait in line for two hours.
I think where we are.
george santos
Tell me more about your life.
unidentified
Right?
I've been there.
david pollack
Trust me.
unidentified
I have two kids.
david pollack
I think where we are with MAGA is that, you know, I just saw a video out of Florida where a Haitian on temporary status beat a woman to death with a hammer.
unidentified
Yeah.
david pollack
And, you know, we're trying to debug people.
I think we are right now with MAGA is, oh, okay, I guess let's just put aside all the terrible things we forgot about two years ago and what we were dealing with with Joe Biden and January 6th people sitting in prison and, you know, basically immigrants coming across the border and murdering people.
And now we're like, can we just complain about Epstein and Iran?
That would be great.
2026 is a few months away.
Let's just complain about the stuff that everybody wants us to complain about and forget the fact that.
The Democrats want to put us all in jail.
phil labonte
To that point, Will Chamberlain had a great post.
He said, border crossings are near zero, negative, net negative migration, 95% reduction in asylum grants, lawsuits against a slew of woke universities, DEI getting crushed everywhere, massive beneficial deregulation, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, Venezuela turned into an American alley, and that's just off the top of my head.
People continue to say that Donald Trump has done nothing.
They'll swear up and down that he hasn't done anything.
He's done nothing.
He lied to Maggie.
He hasn't done anything.
And it's like, if you, or they'll make the argument, no.
george santos
You put no tax on tips in there?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Democrats.
george santos
I'll have to remind people.
phil labonte
Democrats and some MAGA critical people who say, oh, well, you know, there's no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.
That is just so patently false.
I have to think you're an imbecile or just lumber clicks.
tim pool
It's easy.
I'm going to explain it.
The reports came out a few weeks ago that right wing content has dropped about 27%.
So you'll notice two big trends.
And earlier I had specifically called out Brandon Strzok, though I don't mean anything too heavily by it, Brandon.
Don't get mad at me.
george santos
Oh, you're going to get a call.
tim pool
But he called me a retard for a joke post that I made.
george santos
Really?
tim pool
So I responded with if you look at Brandon's account, you'll see that he's doing something new.
george santos
He's with the whole Colin Rugg style stuff.
tim pool
It's just basically posting every minute a news clip or a viral video.
And whereas he used to be commentary on the state of politics and walking away, now it's just generic news content blast, blast, blast, blast.
A lot of right wing personalities have started doing this because no longer are you getting retweets and views by saying something like, Go Trump.
There's two kinds of content that gets views right now general viral and anti Trump.
So if you look at David Pacman as a great example, he made a video.
Where he said Trump rushes out press conference after he pooped his pants.
Never happened.
There's no evidence of anything indicating it.
Trump didn't change his clothes.
Literally nothing happened.
And the left just said it did.
He made a video and he got 2.5 million views.
I mean, that's going to be like $10,000 to $20,000 cash in pocket.
Yep.
So if you are a podcaster influencer, you are looking at your views drop because the right's in power.
They're not fighting woke anymore.
Woke is under the rug right now.
So, the only way to actually get traffic is general viral or anti Trump.
And what are we seeing?
Candace Owens is the embodiment of this.
First, she was a liberal with social autopsy.
Then, she was red pill black.
Then, she joined the Daily Wire.
Then, she left to talk about Blake Lively.
She was tracking top trends among people.
And now, she settled on Israel, anti Trump, et cetera.
She is just basically going to, according to Jeremy Boring, her words are she will represent whatever the people believe.
She is going to be their avatar.
So, when I see these people all going after Trump, The first thing I say is, yeah, if you're trying to get clicks on the internet and make money, you have to follow the trends.
In the same time, when they accuse me of doing it and simultaneously claim I'm not relevant anymore and losing views, I say, okay, I am not going to pretend to hate Trump because I should have more views or whatever.
I'm going to say what I think is true and what's going on.
george santos
You know, I get a lot of.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Oh, well, some people will allow themselves to get baited into becoming the enemy that they're telling you you are.
That's their tactic, they want you to become the fascist dictator so they can be like, hey, And they want you to, you know.
But I think the working hypothesis that I've got going on is 2016, 17, 18, 19, people kind of split up because we're criticizing the liberal economic order.
Trump was red pilling the world, telling them what it was basically the deep state.
And so people started getting paid and building these networks to criticize each other and criticize aspects of each other's reality.
Then we kind of resolved it with Trump's second election.
Now, people are still addicted to the money and the fighting, but the technocratic AI wants that.
It's inciting it with.
Wait, hold on.
Let me finish.
With comments, it's getting people to continue fighting because if it comes in as an overarch, it's going to take over everything.
It's going to be a technocratic dystopia.
We cannot allow that with bickering.
tim pool
You're half right.
The people are addicted to the culture war fighting, but there's nothing to fight.
george santos
There's nothing to fight.
That's my point.
We've won so much, there's nothing left to oppose, really.
And now people are meandering like, oh, there's nothing to complain about.
I'm just going to make sure.
phil labonte
The best they can come up with is Donald Trump told me that I was going to get tired of winning, and we haven't won enough where I'm tired of it.
tim pool
Who wants to read this tweet that I posted?
phil labonte
I'll read it.
After reading all the replies to my tweets, I've come to realize that I have been wrong about everything.
Trump is demonic and a mad king.
I should have seen it sooner.
Israel has been controlling everything the whole time.
I was blind.
I apologize and hope that moving forward, you will still consider reposting me on X and buying my coffee.
tim pool
And.
george santos
That last line has gone up.
tim pool
The point is, this is obvious to anybody with at least a couple brain cells to rub together.
unidentified
Not anymore.
tim pool
My joke is, I apologize.
Please buy my coffee.
The joke is, I'll say whatever you want.
Give me money.
I'm making fun of these people.
There are replies where they're like, oh, now you're trying to pretend to be anti Trump.
Nice try, Tim.
And there are people being like, you should have called out Israel a long time ago, but I appreciate you're doing it now.
It is a sea of retards.
george santos
Dude, I said I wasn't coming to.
Tonight, I canceled on that post, and people are like, No, he's being sarcastic.
I'm like, I know, I'm canceling tonight.
And people are like, No, no, he's being sarcastic.
tim pool
Look at his video from the other day, trolling.
I feel like there's a sense of never bought it, never will beanie boy.
You're a grifter, just like the rest.
george santos
There's like, um, Tim being sarcastic, it's just like, What?
ian crossland
There's a sense of empowerment from trolling the world, like Andy Kaufman style.
But I've been trying to figure out if it's the right thing to do.
I don't think it is because.
phil labonte
People, because you're no fun and you have no sense of humor.
ian crossland
You're acting like the villain to get a response so they can see you.
Hold on.
Sarcastic?
tim pool
Sarcasm is a normal thing in human discourse.
ian crossland
If there's tone, but without tone in text, it's not real.
tim pool
I don't care.
ian crossland
Well, that's the problem.
george santos
Well, I read that in the.
tim pool
No, it's not the problem.
ian crossland
You read it with sarcasm.
phil labonte
Shame on you, Tim.
Shame on you.
tim pool
It is not my intention, nor do I care your reaction.
The people who understand what I'm doing, it's who I'm speaking to.
I think Michael Malice agrees with me in Largeland this one.
We are not making these posts for a bunch of retards who go and have.
Retard fights.
This is for the sane, rational people that we are communicating with intentionally.
ian crossland
But the other people see it too.
george santos
So who cares?
ian crossland
That riles them up.
tim pool
Bro, I am not a special ed teacher, okay?
I don't exist.
ian crossland
We're all kind of special ed teachers posting on the internet.
unidentified
Wow, okay.
tim pool
Fair.
I do agree a little bit.
george santos
I don't make a concerted effort to be a good special ed teacher then because I just say whatever comes to my little heart.
ian crossland
I'm about not playing to the lowest combo.
tim pool
I actually bought coffee.
Bro, look at this.
But look at this.
Look at this.
unidentified
I can read this one.
tim pool
Yeah, read it.
ian crossland
According to Tim Poole's description on the April 9th Timcast IRL, Oh, God, I can barely read this episode.
Trump called him personally before the Truth Social post.
Poole said Trump thanked him for the support, calling him a good nerd.
No, it's a good friend.
I can't read it.
tim pool
And joked about the Fifth Avenue line.
Trump laughed.
Poole shared his live on air right after.
No public confirmation or denial from Trump yet.
Some viewers treat Poole's account as credible based on live recounting.
Others question it without independent verification.
Grok, there's threads just going crazy where Grok is like, Tim Poole did talk with Donald Trump on the phone.
All based off of, look at this.
Absolutely psychotic.
ian crossland
What you posted.
tim pool
Here's another one.
Here's another one.
unidentified
Here you go.
tim pool
Dude.
I love this.
david pollack
I read a television.
tim pool
Look at what this guy said.
david pollack
If you need me to read your tweets, you just let me know.
tim pool
He might just stumble into it.
I tweeted this.
Dude, what if it turns out it was Trump the whole time with Epstein and Democrats had nothing to do with it?
And my point with these posts is this gives me an example.
This guy, Tizzy Ent, is a grifter.
He is fake.
Okay.
These people at the higher level know I support Trump, not all the time, but generally.
And this is sarcasm mocking everything going on with people turning on Trump.
They don't care about the context.
They post it knowing that he's going to get 363,000 views.
ian crossland
But context means with text.
There is nothing with it.
george santos
It's just text.
So there is no post.
ian crossland
There's no starter text.
tim pool
It exists in the context in which it was conceived.
It didn't just fall out of a coconut tree, Ian.
ian crossland
Yeah, but context indicates there's more than just text with the communication.
george santos
But Ian, you're missing the point.
Tim's a communicator.
He's on every single day, seven days a week?
tim pool
Well, I sometimes put stuff on the week.
Well, no, no, yeah, seven days a week.
george santos
That's what I'm saying.
Seven days a week.
So seven days a week.
For the last decade, I want to, and I'm trying to be a decade general right here.
unidentified
Wow.
george santos
If you don't understand the tone in which he communicates with, then you don't belong in that sphere.
That's my point.
tim pool
It's not just that.
This tweet exists in a news cycle.
There is contemporary context around this post, and that is Trump attacked Tucker, Candace, Alex, et cetera.
They attacked him back.
I made a post that was like, look at me, I'm calling out Trump.
Anyone who saw this should know the context of what is going on in this conversation.
And you need, you would need to look at what Tim Poole is talking about.
There was, I can't remember who it was.
I think it might have been Patton Oswald 10 years ago on X. Patton Oswald, oh my God.
He posted, I think it was Patton Oswald.
I'm not sure.
I can't remember who it was.
It might have been Ricky Gervais.
They posted, he was posting tweets in the replies.
And so the first sentence was always really offensive.
He would say something like, you know, I think Hitler did nothing, and then, you know, it would dot, dot, dot, and then be followed up by redeemable.
He's an evil man who should have been.
george santos
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And those tweets would go viral.
And he was making that.
I can't remember who it was who did this, but the point was behind.
george santos
That's Pat Oswald.
That's his.
tim pool
You remember that?
george santos
Yeah, I not only remember that, but that.
tim pool
The full statement was criticism of Hitler, but when you cut it off, it was.
george santos
And that was the 140 character era, which is how Trump became so indominal.
On Twitter, right?
Like, you couldn't really beat him because he, it was either one word answers to like whatever was in the context at that moment or like these really short liners.
And that's how he became so popular with the app.
But I got to look at this one.
Trump is saving them.
tim pool
Y'all don't get it.
Trump is saving them.
He's casting them out knowing that Democrats will come after anyone who supports them after the midterms.
Trump is being magnanimous.
george santos
I thought that was really cool.
It was Kellen.
tim pool
Kellen.
george santos
Magananimous.
tim pool
Yeah, I wrote magnanimous and then Kellen goes, Magananimous.
I was like, oh, that's too good.
george santos
That's so good.
That's so good.
tim pool
And the funny thing is that people believe it.
Now, look right below it.
So here's a tweet that if you did not read the context, it's me saying, no, no, Trump is good, right?
Right below it.
That does it.
I am done.
This is the last draw.
I'm so angry.
This one's got, what, 5 million views?
4.8 million views.
All of these liberals are sharing this post, being like Tim Pool switched to the Democratic Party, Tim Pool's calling Republicans, Democrat landslide, all of this stuff.
ian crossland
Well, when I saw that, I was like, I don't know if you're being true or not, and I'm not reading that garbage.
tim pool
I didn't even say what I was angry about.
unidentified
I know.
ian crossland
I didn't know if you were to believe it or not.
If Kreisenstein pissed you off or if you liked it, I didn't know.
tim pool
Well, not just that.
No, they're saying Trump pissed me off.
The point is there's no, there is nothing in my statement to latch onto.
And the reason, the point of this tweet is liberals are sharing it saying Tim Poole is mad at Trump, and conservatives are sharing it saying Tim Poole lost it over Ed Kreisenstein.
ian crossland
What's happening is you're playing 3D or 4D chess with these people, outthinking them, but there's people that are going to see that.
That have never even heard of the game.
unidentified
No.
Women Voting Patterns 00:15:40
unidentified
Well, hold on.
george santos
No, there's people who are disingenuous who will pretend to not know what's going on.
tim pool
And Ian.
george santos
And play that just like.
david pollack
But I don't follow the story.
tim pool
Ian, let me help you.
ian crossland
You know what Candace said?
unidentified
Indeed.
ian crossland
I'm not really deep.
tim pool
And then when I go on my show and explain how people are intentionally taking gags from this larger context for clicks, I can say, this proves it.
ian crossland
But that's just your audience.
They will see it.
unidentified
Indeed.
ian crossland
And the other people, because they're not reckoning.
tim pool
Anyone is welcome to.
ian crossland
They're real people that have action.
george santos
Who do you think he cares about talking to?
unidentified
The human race.
tim pool
But hold on, hold on, hold on.
But my question is, okay.
george santos
I care about the audience.
tim pool
My question is, and.
And what?
ian crossland
And if you aggravate people unintentionally, they can come, like, they can do a really bad thing.
tim pool
Who's aggravating?
ian crossland
People that think that you're saying something you're not.
tim pool
Who, what group, who is this?
unidentified
I will.
ian crossland
You just said liberals earlier.
You said that people are sharing it.
People that are confused, I don't know.
tim pool
Liberals and conservatives.
ian crossland
Yeah, and people might get.
tim pool
So I have tweets that can functionally be viewed as either left or right.
They're indiscernible.
And you get left and right.
Everybody is just fighting each other.
My point being, these people are lying.
They know that the context of these things is either trolling, joke, sarcasm, or vagaries.
And they're engaging below in the tweets for no reason because they are fake.
It's fake and gay.
The joke is you go on act and say, I like pancakes, and someone responds with, What's wrong with waffles?
That's the point.
Each and every one of these people responding, they know exactly what they're doing.
They know exactly what's being said and why.
They are just part of tribal fervor.
david pollack
You know what you're creating here, though?
You're a weapons manufacturer here.
And now you're like, Well, I didn't really, I didn't intend on what they're doing with these weapons because what we.
tim pool
Well, no, I.
david pollack
Well, maybe you do.
tim pool
I want to show people the weapons.
Like, you talk about information.
Sorry to interrupt.
george santos
No, you're fine.
tim pool
You talk about information vaccination, Ian.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
You've talked about how you've had to go to your parents and be like, listen, this story is going to come out.
It's not true.
Here's the real news.
That way, when the TV comes on, they go, wait a minute.
Because if they hear the lie first, they're less inclined to believe the truth after.
With these posts, I have explained to people over and over again how the grifters operate.
I largely think the people attacking Trump are doing it.
Not everybody, but it's because you don't get the clicks for supporting Trump like you used to.
Then I can show these posts to people like your parents and say, look, and they're going to go, Well, that's obviously a joke.
And I'm like, then why did this guy claim it was the truth?
david pollack
And that's what was my point the weapons manufacturing, because we started to see this, I don't know, maybe nine, 10 months when Epstein first broke.
It was right after Bindergate.
You started seeing people go, whoa, there's an opportunity.
And I think Bindergate was actually part of that to create a narrative that can be used to make people believe, like we talked about before the show, that MAGA is split.
See, the cracks are starting to show.
And what has happened since Epstein, since Bindergate, has been this concerted effort.
You see people on social media, these, what, Rush called seminar callers coming and be like, Look, I voted for Trump.
I loved Trump.
I was a libertarian.
I voted for Trump.
And now I would never vote for him again because of Epstein, because of Iran, because nobody's gone to jail for Crossfire Hurricane.
And so what's happened is these posts, like you mentioned, are being weaponized by dishonest people, but it's creating a larger narrative that will be believed by retards.
tim pool
So let me tell you something.
Everybody keeps asking this question Are these personalities getting foreign money?
george santos
That's a good question.
I think so.
unidentified
You don't think so?
george santos
Absolutely not.
tim pool
It's hard to track.
You're getting Democrat money.
david pollack
But where are Democrats getting money?
tim pool
Democrats are.
george santos
I don't want to be sued, Tim, but I can tell you this.
I know one specific influencer.
tim pool
Who are they, though?
Huh?
george santos
I know one specific influencer who had a very stark opinion on Qatar, went to Qatar, came back, and.
david pollack
I know exactly what you're talking about.
george santos
No, no, no.
There's Tucker Carlson.
I think I know who you're talking about.
And we're very good friends.
And I haven't said anything, but I'm.
tim pool
You're from Texas?
george santos
No, actually, no.
Not from Texas.
Not from Texas.
And I sat back and I'm like, what happened?
You used to have a very sharp opinion on Qatar.
You come back from this week, random trip in Qatar, and now it's like Qatar, the land of make believe everything.
Your kids go to top Ivy League schools for free.
tim pool
Here's the trick.
Here's the trick.
Remember when Tim Dillon got disinvited from Riyadh?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he criticized Saudi Arabia.
Yeah.
They don't pay you to say things, they just offer to pay you.
So if I said something like, you know, George, you know, we'd love to have you on the show once a month, we'll pay you a retainer for it.
The idea there is, I don't need to pay George to praise me.
He just won't speak out against me because he doesn't want to risk a contract.
These companies like Qatar, Israel, Saudi, whoever else, they don't pay people to speak.
They don't put them on the payroll and say, I'll give you $7,000 for a post.
They say, Oh, we'd love to have you as a speaker at one of our events.
We'll pay you $10,000.
Then the person goes, I better not say anything bad about him because I don't want to lose him back.
george santos
Exactly.
Well, that's the whole world I live in, right?
So even what I said to you earlier, right before we started recording, like, so I have different deals with different.
Sponsors and companies.
And obviously, I can't speak about them or praise, let's say, the competition.
But this is so much more than that because this, in my opinion, goes into is there foreign influence here?
Is there a foreign influence trying to control the narrative of the news cycle in the United States?
That's where I have it.
tim pool
The answer is yes.
But the Democrats have been talking for a long time and we predicted this that after the election, they said, we need a Joe Rogan.
In fact, some of the articles not only said, who is the liberal Joe Rogan?
One of them hilariously said, We don't have a Joe Rogan.
We don't even have a Tim Pool.
And I thought that was funny because they're basically saying, I'm like a D tier podcaster.
I'm not as big as Tucker and them, but they're like, We don't even have that.
The point everybody made is, You did.
It was Joe Rogan and Tim Pool, but you are nuts.
So here's the thing we predicted at the end of 2024 during the election that they were going to dump tens of millions, hundreds of millions into buying up these shows to control narrative.
When I see prominent personalities flipping on a dime seemingly overnight, I don't feel like it's organic.
However, when you add into the mix that we know Democrat organizations needed to find a liberal Joe Rogan, why would they go to David Pacman?
He already says what they want him to say.
If they need to win a culture war, they don't need a liberal Joe Rogan, they need Joe Rogan.
So what do you do?
Money.
Money to the people who would speak out against you, who will now speak out for you.
george santos
But here's one problem with that line of thought.
Of the four mentioned in Trump's tweet, Tucker doesn't need it, any of it.
And I'm not defending Tucker here, but again.
tim pool
He's the heir to the Swanson fortune, right?
unidentified
Huh?
tim pool
Is he the heir to the Swanson fortune?
george santos
I don't keep up with his personal finances.
I know he's not poor.
Let's just look at it.
tim pool
No, this is a big deal.
george santos
So my point here is Tucker doesn't need this.
It's not money.
Tucker's more of an.
tim pool
Sorry, sorry.
It's not correct.
george santos
It's not.
unidentified
Okay.
george santos
So Tucker's more of an idealistic human being.
So whatever he's saying, he truly believes.
Now, when it comes to Candace, Megan, and Alex Jones, which Alex Jones, who I've called for years batshit crazy, I have.
I don't know why people ever gave him an ounce of credibility, especially after Sandy Hook.
But, you know, I sit here and I speak for myself and I'm going to get a lot of heat for this.
But I think Alex Jones is certifiably insane.
And then you have Megyn Kelly, who completely has lost her proverbial mind.
I mean, the woman's obsessed with all the things that don't matter in reality to society.
And then you have Candace, who literally has insisted Brigitte Macron has a penis.
I mean, certifiable.
david pollack
She does have her right hook.
george santos
No, my point being is what led Candace Owens to believe or suspect that Brigitte Macron had a penis?
ian crossland
That's my question because you said Tucker probably believes what he said.
You actually said you believe.
george santos
I don't think Candace believes what she says, though.
ian crossland
Why do people believe what they believe, too?
Because maybe they're lying, maybe they're not.
george santos
No, I think Candace Owens is going to give her money.
No, you're missing the point, Ian.
She wants money.
unidentified
She wants status.
Why?
george santos
She wants money, notoriety.
Did you know that Candace Owens, right now, I have an entire group.
Well, no, it's more to it.
I have an entire LA based publicity company.
My publicist is in LA, my manager is in LA.
They are all liberals.
And there's no way you work in entertainment without a liberal crew around you, or else you don't move forward.
That's the sad part of the reality.
But did you know Candace Owens has become like a darling on liberal America?
tim pool
Well, she's anti Trump.
george santos
She's like the darling of liberal.
LA is obsessed with her.
There is a rumor in LA right now that ABC is considering.
Hiring her and giving her a daytime talk show.
ian crossland
Now, this is the thing about Candace.
george santos
This is not, this isn't, again, it's a rumor, but in LA, rumors pan out to be true 12 months down the line when the new broadcast timeline comes around, which is September, January, and boom.
I would not be shocked if we see Candace Owens with a daytime, primetime television, which the audience is predominantly female.
I just, look, I wouldn't be shocked.
tim pool
When you're, you know, Candace and you're doing things that are just heavily female coded to attract a female audience, which one second while I drink from my Stanley cups.
unidentified
It looks refreshing.
tim pool
I just love these Stanley cups so much.
george santos
They're so great.
I have them in like eight colors.
tim pool
Well, anyway, as I was saying, women love that shit.
When you do trendy things that women love, they just stare at you.
unidentified
We clip too.
ian crossland
We should clip that and put that live somewhere.
tim pool
Media Matters got mad at me because I said, can I pull this up?
Because we're just, we're being naughty today.
phil labonte
You got mad because they're Media Matters.
george santos
I feel like I'm in Europe drinking out of this bottle.
unidentified
Is it so small?
george santos
No, because it's attached to my face, the cap.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
george santos
Here's the European thing.
tim pool
Here's a litter.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
Here's why I'm not going to get an ABC daytime talk show.
Phil, you want to read that one?
phil labonte
Tim Pool, women vote for drama.
They vote for stupid, interpersonal trash that does not matter to the function of a society.
They vote for soap operas.
I took that, I retweeted that, and I said, it's all true because it is all true.
george santos
Listen, it's not all true.
phil labonte
It is all true.
george santos
I have a major female audience, so please don't say that about my audience.
tim pool
It is a generalist.
phil labonte
I'm not watching tonight.
unidentified
I got you.
tim pool
I'm going to say this again, George.
I am going to get business cards printed out that say, if someone presents macro level statistics and you respond with an anecdote, you are low IQ.
Or it will say, a person who responds to macro level statistics with an anecdote is low IQ.
That way, when I point out to a woman and I say something like, well, in general, women vote for drama and interpersonal stuff.
And they go, Well, I don't.
I can hand them the card.
And that's the point.
It's not about women, it's about any group.
Because this is what you see all the time.
The truth is, women as a voting block do trend this way.
Not every single one, of course.
In fact, maybe about 35 to 40% do not.
But as a voting block, it is reliable that if you want to maximize your female votes, social, trend, cultural, those are your key elements, which is why Candace Owens has a Stanley Cup on her desk.
This is a status symbol among women.
It's not just about what she's saying, because what she's saying is retarded, like debacle or kerflaffle.
These are not words.
But women care largely about the imagery and the high status of it.
So when Candace presents salacious suboptimal drama, like Blake Lively, oh my God, Brigitte Macron has a penis.
Women love it.
That's why she has such a massive female audience.
Guys don't.
Our audience, about 80% dudes.
unidentified
I know.
george santos
And every time I come on, they're.
Dying.
They're like, why is he there?
tim pool
I'm raging all over.
Listen, have you seen the viral video of the man answering his wife's question like his wife that went viral recently?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, for those who don't know, it's a guy and he's like, he grabs his keys and he walks to the door and she goes, Hey, hon, where are you going?
And he goes, Oh my God.
So, let me tell you, right?
So, you remember Jim, right?
Well, Jim and I were actually going to a bar after work because you remember when I was saying, I was like, I'm going to meet with Jim.
I haven't seen him in a long time.
So, anyway, he tells this rambling, long winded story and then he goes, So, yeah, anyway, the guy that he worked with, whose brother was friends with the chef, actually has a restaurant downtown.
And she goes, Are you going to that restaurant?
I was like, No, no, no, we're going for beers to talk.
And then he walks to the door.
And the joke was for men, this is how women answer questions.
It's true.
And again, what irks me about stuff like this with Media Matters getting mad is that women get offended when men make observations from a male perspective that they wish did not happen.
So, when I say something like, Women vote for stupid interpersonal trash, the rational response is not, F you, Tim Pool, don't talk about women that way.
It's, well, I'd phrase it less harshly, but women prefer social issues over logistical issues.
Men prefer hearing about objective, straightforward.
Women love hearing about the personal.
So it's subjective versus objective.
This is not a wrong statement.
It's offensive to women, not on the merits, on the intention, on the emotion.
unidentified
I got it.
Yeah.
ian crossland
If it was a psychologist making this statement, it would say women tend to.
That would be the only difference in the statement.
tim pool
No, it wouldn't.
ian crossland
It's a tendency, basically.
tim pool
If it was written by a psychologist, it would say, as a voting block, women vote for issues of social importance.
ian crossland
Yeah, there would be like an as of the way.
tim pool
They vote for interpersonal issues and cultural issues as opposed to objective functioning of society.
ian crossland
I mean, it would just be you would make sure that they know it's a tendency and not a hard thing.
tim pool
No, that's not correct.
ian crossland
Well, not all women do what you say they do.
So that does not include women.
tim pool
Do you need the card?
Do you need the card, Ian?
I made those cards for you because of exactly what you're saying right now.
ian crossland
You said at the top that it's a generalization.
tim pool
Ian, for the love of all that is holy, I literally just made a whole joke tirade about how people who respond to macro level politics with anecdotes are low IQ.
ian crossland
I know, and that doesn't mean that.
unidentified
And then you just said it.
ian crossland
Yeah, funny.
It doesn't mean that your joke is true.
tim pool
It's a fact.
ian crossland
Okay, but I didn't use an anecdote either.
tim pool
Anecdotal evidence is saying not all women.
Macro level.
ian crossland
I know a girl and she's not.
tim pool
Macro level statistics don't need qualifiers.
ian crossland
Bro, I'm saying you're claiming a generalization and you didn't tell people that was a generalization in your statement.
tim pool
Can someone help?
ian crossland
I don't know what to say.
phil labonte
There is no help.
I hear this stuff all the time.
You just got to sit back and enjoy the ride, Jim.
ian crossland
Yeah, there is no argument.
david pollack
I'm a guest here.
I'm trying not to break anything.
phil labonte
This is the best part about this.
Let's say it again.
george santos
This is when it gets truly spicy.
I love it.
tim pool
Macro.
george santos
I love spicy, Ian.
tim pool
Macro level statistics.
Ian does not need qualifiers.
End of story.
george santos
I tend to agree with Tim on this.
ian crossland
I don't think they need them, but if you want to be, like a psychologist would have used one, you are in.
george santos
Why are you going.
A psychologist would, what lead you all to?
ian crossland
Their intention is to not, they don't want to reduce harm.
They don't want to confuse people.
They don't want to create confusion.
It seems more of a social, like a culture jammer.
Yeah.
Like a hammer.
So that's the difference.
tim pool
The statement, the reason why I joked about printing up these cards is because statisticians and researchers do not use qualifiers when they say things like women vote Democrat.
ian crossland
My take on that is if you have a statistic that women voted Democrat up to today, now we're taking that statistic, that doesn't mean that in the future, They will.
george santos
Well, I'll choose.
tim pool
I don't think you can comprehend.
george santos
Women vote Democrat, and here's why women vote Democrat because there's no interpersonal skills in the majority of Republican candidates.
tim pool
That's a fact.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
They're losing.
You know, Republicans are losing.
george santos
I was the first Republican in New York State in 26 years to win with a majority female vote.
Suit Culture Clash 00:13:42
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
george santos
52%.
You know why?
Because I actually talk to women.
tim pool
Can I?
unidentified
Can I?
george santos
Obviously, I'm gay, and every woman is a fag hag, and that's a fact.
I mean, okay.
Let me speak this in Ionese, okay?
Statistically, a majority of women are fag hags.
They love to have the gay BFF.
I showed up, I talked to women, I speak the women vernacular, and I got 52% of the female vote.
tim pool
That's amazing.
george santos
Which was like, boom to everybody.
unidentified
Like, how did George Santos do it?
He's a scammer.
george santos
He's a fraud.
No, I actually talked.
unidentified
I showed up.
george santos
I'm like, oh my God, your hair looks great.
Love your nails.
Like, ooh, that bag's great.
Dude, and I mean it too.
I'm not just throwing it away.
I don't throw away compliments because I go online and then I eviscerate women.
For wearing shit, but this is sales 101.
tim pool
I want to say something with all due respect to Brian Hallihan.
george santos
Oh, I was going to say, please don't be respectful.
tim pool
So we were playing, so Blair Wright was here the other day.
george santos
Yeah, yesterday.
tim pool
And she plays Magic the Gathering.
And so I said, let's roll.
And we played some Commander.
And I mopped her up.
Oh, I taught her a lesson.
It was very fun.
And I don't even know what that is.
Magic the Gathering, these cards I got by me, it's a card game.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But Blair asked about the makeup of the Magic audience.
Like, is it conservative?
Is it liberal?
I said, oh, it's almost entirely like liberal, I guess.
But it's because the older guys who play Magic, people who are like 40, like I've been playing it since the game came out, like we're more moderate to right leaning.
And young people are all like in culture.
Young people are all left.
And I said, the reason why is Republicans are suit wearing losers.
So, the reason I say, with all due respect to Bryan Hallihan, because I'm not trying to rag on a young man, but again, I hope he hears this.
george santos
Thank you for saying that.
tim pool
Bryan Hallihan is a stodgy square.
I am not trying to be disrespectful or mean to this kid because a lot of people ragged on him.
And I'm not for that.
But I think it's important to stress he has the charisma of a cardboard box.
george santos
But that's 90% of Republicans.
Exactly.
By the way, you're welcome.
He was going to show up in a fucking suit today.
david pollack
I don't know what to wear to things.
george santos
I said, You're going to a bro podcast and you're going to wear a suit?
david pollack
I work in politics and news.
I don't know what to wear.
unidentified
Stop that.
george santos
It's a cardboard box.
tim pool
Look at what Ian's wearing.
Ian is the most appropriately dressed every time on the show.
george santos
Ian, that's fine.
phil labonte
Listen, we don't have a dress code.
If you had shown up in a suit, it would have been fine.
We'd have made fun of you later, but that's fine.
david pollack
I would have skateboarded.
george santos
You know what I told him?
What a stiff.
ian crossland
I don't like the tie because I feel like it's a.
Choke hazard.
david pollack
Like, society's like to wear this.
george santos
Hold on.
So, choke hazard.
Tell me more about your friend.
phil labonte
You want to get away?
You're mine.
tim pool
That sounds like I've never tried home shit.
unidentified
Tell me more.
ian crossland
I'm one end of the top.
tim pool
Saw the audio leak, right?
george santos
That's awful.
tim pool
We'll talk about that.
george santos
No, come on.
Chrissy's a dear friend.
I feel so bad.
unidentified
Chrissy.
tim pool
Well, we'll talk about it later.
We have to talk about audio guy with us.
david pollack
But you know, Tim, you're both very important here.
Like, you're making a.
Of course, you know you're making a great point.
Yeah, I'm going to make it serious because he's making a really good point.
He took a long time to make it.
And I don't mean that in a bad way.
I mean, you really were being intentional in this.
It's that.
When we have all these young people who are being indoctrinated in these schools to think that Republicans suck, they're racist, and this, and then you have the representatives from the Republican Party come through and they look like the role they've been told.
And then you have women who, by and large, they consume their media through headlines on, what is it, like whatever social media pops up, Yahoo.
And then they go and we reinforce these stereotypes that Trudeau won because he was a hunk and he did the yoga handstand on the table.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think the red pill movement.
george santos
You know why Eric Swallow is going to win?
Because he's hot.
I'm not my type, but women find him attractive.
tim pool
See, here's the thing.
I'm not like the only.
george santos
It's not that I'm saying he's a good looking dude or whatever.
I'm just saying he projects, like, oh, I'm young, I'm hot, I'm a.
tim pool
I'm going to say this.
I have no way to judge.
george santos
I know Gavin Wax is a.
Not Gavin Wax, oh God.
tim pool
When all the.
george santos
I love Gavin Wax.
Gavin Newsom is a problem in 28 because of that same stereotype.
tim pool
When all the women came out saying that Luigi Mangione was hot or whatever.
unidentified
He is.
george santos
Attractively.
But you shouldn't find him hot.
I'd find problems.
tim pool
No, this is the thing.
george santos
Stay in your lane.
I stay in my lane.
tim pool
But this is the interesting thing.
Like the Trudeau thing we get because he's fit.
And he's like a surfer guy doing yoga.
But I was actually shocked that they found Louis J. M. Rogers attractive.
I understand he's fit as well, but I thought he was a goofy looking dude.
You say this about Suwa.
I thought he was a goofy looking dude, too.
george santos
They're goofy looking.
tim pool
You know, every day I wake up and I'm getting ready for the day, I see hotness.
You know what I mean?
When I look in that mirror, I'm thinking.
unidentified
That would be tough.
ian crossland
No wonder you wear the big.
So I think the red pill movement, the, what is it, like the trad wife movement, has done a lot of damage to the people on the right.
They think that you're supposed to be like a whip cracking businessman suit wearing box that the woman's inside of and can't.
And like, most society doesn't want that.
They're not prepped for that.
george santos
Your fetishes are really showing today.
unidentified
Did you see this?
george santos
You know what, Ian?
You need to come on my show so we can talk about this.
david pollack
Ian, did you see the stat that more young women are now preferring to be trad wives versus working women?
Like feminism?
There was an article like feminism is dying because women now want to be trad wives.
ian crossland
I think it's their brain.
They think they want to, just like the men think they want to be wearing suits and ties.
david pollack
I don't think they want to.
tim pool
They literally want to.
david pollack
I don't think they do.
george santos
I don't think most men want to be in a single household income care.
tim pool
No, it's not about what it's about, Ian.
It's about status.
You dress the way you do because you're seeking status and approval from a certain sect of people.
The saying goes, people dress like the person they want to have sex with.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
That's an old trope.
unidentified
That's actually.
tim pool
That's why you notice couples will be dressed similarly.
You'll walk down the street and you'll see a guy and a woman and he'll have black frame glasses.
Like she'll have the same glasses.
He'll be wearing a flannel.
She'll be wearing a flannel.
My favorite thing is.
george santos
Does Rachel Maddow and Mark Cuban want to bang each other?
Oh, anyway, let's take a look.
unidentified
And you know what the worst thing is?
tim pool
How do you tell them about that?
The worst thing is when Michael Knowles gets caught up in it.
But here's a funny thing.
george santos
Did I get sued for that?
ian crossland
I was just like, let me tell you something.
tim pool
I wear the same clothes every day, right?
I wear a black t shirt and jeans.
I do have some other clothes that I just usually don't wear, but.
There will be days where my wife will put on a black t shirt and jeans, and I'm like, oh, we're coordinating today.
And she goes, but we're very similar people.
We like the same style, we listen to the same music, we're from the same place.
It's not so much about it's oversimplified when you say that people dress the way like the people they want to have sex with.
It's basically about who is your people, who is your tribe, who do you connect with.
So when you say people are being indoctrinated to wear ties or whatever, no, no, no, you're from a rock star hippie world of liberal culture, and you dress the way.
There are people that you want to notice how you dress, so you dress in an ostentatious manner.
ian crossland
I used to wear suits, but only because I was trying to fit in with that culture.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
And they would be like, you have to wear a suit.
george santos
I wore suits for years.
I can't, I hate wearing suits.
Republicans don't wear a suit even when you went to the White House.
tim pool
No, the only time I ever wore a suit was in court.
And when I, if there's one person I will dress up for, the judge.
Actually, that's not true.
I wore a suit to my wedding.
unidentified
Your honor.
george santos
Okay, there you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
I'm assuming a tuxedo.
ian crossland
Did you wear a tie?
tim pool
No, not a tuxedo.
ian crossland
I'm down with the jacket.
It really is the tie.
I don't like the tie.
tim pool
I wore a suit at Mar-a-Lago.
It was a suit jacket with slacks.
george santos
Oh, that's like a sports jacket.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Because they have a dress code.
They do have a dress code.
But the only other time I wore a suit was at court.
And it's because the man who is holding a hammer over my freedom, I will wear a clown suit if he asks me to.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
This is the funny thing about people who slack cops.
george santos
You know what I mean?
I kind of like belittled my judge because I, after, A while and I knew that she was just going to be awful to me.
I actually stopped wearing a suit and I just started like throwing fashionista moments in there.
I kind of Anna Delvied it.
I was like wearing turtlenecks, red shoes.
tim pool
I was just like, you know what?
george santos
You're going to screw me out of you.
tim pool
Want to know the secret?
Suit's not the way to go.
You look up their personal lives and see what they're interested in, what their hobbies are, and the way they dress, and you dress like them.
Make the judge see themselves in you.
george santos
She's like an 80 year old white lady from the end of Long Island.
phil labonte
Wear a judge's robe.
tim pool
Look up what she was like in her 20s and what will resonate with her emotion, psyche, and worldview.
george santos
I wish I knew that too.
phil labonte
Don't listen to him wear a judge's robe to the hearing.
unidentified
You hear that?
george santos
I did wear a cape, like a big black cape, and walked around.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
She did a smirk.
And then underneath it, have a second robe.
So when she says, Mr. Sanders, you must take that off, you go, oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified
And you take it off.
george santos
I was bedazzled.
tim pool
And then, this was actually Michael Malice's joke.
Then, when she says, you can't wear that either, you go, Oh, I'm sorry, you take it off, and it says federal boob inspector on it.
unidentified
Like a Russian doll.
Right.
george santos
Like a nesting doll.
tim pool
What are those things called?
Mariushka or something?
george santos
Matrushkas.
tim pool
Matrushkas.
david pollack
I really care so much about German too well, George.
george santos
That's Russian.
phil labonte
The internet is half.
david pollack
Wait, did I say German?
I meant Russian.
george santos
That's Russian.
I'm never going to refute the analogy.
unidentified
Back to the main point.
I don't.
ian crossland
I'm really concerned about people on the right.
I don't worry too much about the dynamics of left and right.
I want people to be cool.
I want them to be cool.
And to be loved and to look at as cultural icons.
People that identify with American freedom, gun rights, property rights, free speech.
tim pool
Let's elaborate on this.
Conservatives are trying to convince the Joe Rogans of the world, the Democrats are trying to convince the Joe Rogans.
Democrats have their base.
Rachel Maddow is Rachel Maddow, and everyone's going to love her on the left.
And on the right, you've got Trump or whatever this fracture is, but people on the right are going to put on their MAGA hats.
How do you approach the middle of the road, relaxed working class people?
Yo, they're wearing jeans and t shirts.
So, when liberals show up wearing jeans and t shirts or having a Stanley mug, the regular, let me pause.
Sales 101.
When you said you tell women, you would say, like, oh, I like your nails.
That's Sales 101.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
So, when we would do the street canvassing stuff, I always say this become the person you're approaching.
If you see a guy walking towards you in a suit and you act like Ian, he will say, don't touch me.
If you see a guy in a suit and you walk up upright and you reach your hand to shake his hand, he'll stop and shake your hand.
You have to know how to communicate with the people you're trying to target.
For conservatives to approach the middle of the road working class people in suits with ties on would be like dressing up in a clown costume.
ian crossland
When you're on TV, you're basically approaching them through the television.
tim pool
You need to be chill, quick witted, and funny.
Trump had a little bit of it, so he got a lot of that white working class base, but now he's in a weird space.
The reason Democrats understand this, and they've always understood this.
And the reason why I think what we're looking at right now Gen Z right wingers are squares.
They're like 20 year olds wearing suits, and Gen Z left are pierced, crazy clothes, wild hair.
Regular people are not going to resonate with the work uniform.
They might look at a weirdo just like a weirdo and just be like, hey, man, do your thing, whatever.
They look at a guy wearing a suit and they'll be like, it reminds me of work.
I don't want to think about work.
ian crossland
Yeah, we've gotten to like a casual era, I guess, with social media.
Now you're kind of buddies with your politician now.
Like you know him a lot.
george santos
That's a problem.
But well, that's a problem too.
I'm actually going to say this at the risk of being criticized, but politicians need to stop literally putting politicians on a pedestal and treating them like rock stars.
david pollack
They work for you.
Well, the internet does that, but that's a problem.
tim pool
Obama started it, right?
george santos
Donald Trump, but that's a problem.
david pollack
Everywhere.
I think he sleeps in a suit and he's cool, like to young people.
I know, but you know what I'm saying?
george santos
He still is.
I actually don't like Trump out of a suit.
Personally, no, no, but personally, and I'm saying this, and I'm a big supporter of the president, I hate it when he shows up like in the high rise pants.
david pollack
Oh, you know, he should wear a blue suit.
george santos
He should be in a suit all the time.
phil labonte
He's a little too out of shape for that.
tim pool
Joe Rogan is a UFC commentator.
All the bros know Joe Rogan, not Just because of his podcast, but because we all like UFC is fun, dude.
george santos
No, UFC is amazing.
tim pool
It is pure testosterone.
george santos
Watching it on the octagon side is like the best thing.
tim pool
Joe Rogan.
george santos
Andrew Fenton alone is just like, let's go.
tim pool
Joe Rogan.
george santos
For the wrong reasons in my case, but okay.
tim pool
Rogan is a modest, smart sports commentator in one of the biggest sports in the world.
He's extremely talented in a bunch of areas.
These are the things that give him influence.
He's quick witted and he's a good dude.
He's a nice guy.
He's funny.
That's cool.
george santos
He's smart.
tim pool
Trump is a warrior.
So, a lot of people look up to him because they view him as someone who will punch you in the face.
Not literally, figuratively.
I don't think people look at Trump and think, when I grow up, I want to be like him.
Some do, but generally speaking, they don't.
david pollack
I think they do, though, because you got to think, when we were young, I mean, I'm 45, so, but when I was young and we would play Monopoly, we'd all be like, we wanted to be Donald Trump, right?
And it was because we knew him to be a billionaire, right?
We was Donald Trump's.
george santos
Oh, dude, I used to say, when I grew up, I wanted a building with my name on it.
unidentified
Right.
david pollack
But if you lived in New York City, because he was the best.
tim pool
That is a kind of cool.
david pollack
But then you see him as he gets home alone, he goes and meets McCully Culkin in the lobby.
And, you know, Trump was always this guy in a suit, this business guy's icon.
And as president, I don't think he wears the suit as a presidential candidate or as a Republican.
He wears the suit because he's an accomplished businessman.
So I think people look up to him for that reason, not because he's a politician.
tim pool
I would describe cool.
Obama was cool.
Obama was cool.
And the reason why is you don't got to like him.
You don't got to think it's possible.
george santos
He's a great orator, too.
Let's just face it.
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george santos
Like, I can't stand the guy, but he's a great orator.
tim pool
Obama's the guy in a conversation who's going to respond with, oh, no, no, no, listen up.
You want to come at me?
I'll tell you what's up.
And then it's like a confident, chill, like, hey, man.
Trump is the no, we're going to tell you what you'd know.
You're stupid and fat.
He's aggressive and strong, and people like that, but cool is kind of different.
Cool is a combination, like, how do you define cool, right?
I define it as relaxed, witty, charismatic.
Trump is not relaxed.
He is witty and charismatic and strong, which is a different thing.
george santos
But then again, there are instances when you're trying to be so cool, and I'm going to go way back to 2012, hype of the birther movement.
Obama goes on, Jimmy Fallon, and does you know they'll read mean tweets about you?
And it's Trump saying, President Obama is the stupidest president in history.
And then Obama goes, At least I'll go down as a president.
Yeah, that was a fun one.
Well, that age, like milk.
unidentified
That age.
phil labonte
So if it wasn't for Barack Obama, we wouldn't have Donald Trump.
unidentified
No.
george santos
I want to thank him every day.
Thank you, Mr. President.
You gave us Trump.
tim pool
I want to stress this Democrats are not cool either.
george santos
They're not.
tim pool
The issue, though, is they have purchased cool.
So, Rachel Maddow is not cool.
She's a nerd.
Chris Hayes is a nerd.
And he's in the boys.
Did you see this?
phil labonte
Oh, my God.
I can't.
It's kind of done by the fifth season.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't want to touch it.
tim pool
If they removed all the political stuff from the boys, awesome show.
phil labonte
It'd be great.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It was great the first two, maybe three seasons.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
Once it got very clear that they were making references to real politics.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I read them out.
tim pool
The first season was just like superheroes.
george santos
Season one and two was great.
Season three lost me.
And on all shows, Laura.
david pollack
They really never showed.
tim pool
Do you remember when Laura Loomer was in the show?
unidentified
I don't.
tim pool
Let me show you.
george santos
She was in the show.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
Well, it was a character based on Laura Loomer.
george santos
Oh, okay.
You see, it went over my head.
unidentified
Let me show you why.
george santos
Oh, my God.
Speaking of Laura, hold on.
Speaking of Laura Loomer.
Yes.
Okay.
tim pool
This is the boys.
Her name is Stormfront.
She's a neo Nazi.
And instantly, everybody was like, Bro.
And she's like a big fan of Homelander.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Bro, congratulations to Laura.
george santos
I will say this.
ian crossland
They need a Milo.
phil labonte
It's funny that they named her Stormfront.
She's Stormfront and it's a neo Nazi.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
See the lightning.
Come on, man.
That's the thing.
It got so on the nose.
And it was just like, all right, I'm not lost in the story.
I'm not like, there's so many references to the reality of the show.
george santos
Do you know a show that lost me after, I'm embarrassed to say this, but after 17 loyal seasons?
unidentified
Law and Order?
george santos
No, it got very, very, very unbearable to watch was Grey's Anatomy.
unidentified
Look at this.
phil labonte
I didn't watch it.
tim pool
Oh, look, look, Laura Loomer.
unidentified
Really political.
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
She said, I know you're trying to be funny, but in all seriousness, Stormfront and the Boys was literally modeled after me.
That's fine.
Aya Cash's character is based off me by their own admission to the New Yorker.
They thought they were being clever since I had short black hair, but I'm Jewish.
So, what does it say?
It says.
george santos
There's allegations that she's not Jewish.
And she's a friend, but I'm just saying.
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
Well, Milo says that up and down.
She's not Jewish.
She's Jewish.
tim pool
Says, you have fans, I have soldiers.
Stormfront's passing resemblance to the far right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer is not incidental, but careful not to infringe on anyone's intellectual property.
There was a.
You know, it's a really crazy story.
There was a show based off Occupy Wall Street.
Do you remember what that show was?
george santos
I don't.
tim pool
So, let me pull this up.
Tell you a wild story about a buddy of mine.
What show was based on Occupy Wall Street?
george santos
While you're on the subject, Laura Loomer's been having a rough week on X. Are you playing with?
david pollack
You just feel like playing with fire.
george santos
I mean, I know she's a friend.
I mean, Roger Stone has been going really hardcore.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
He's talking about weed legalization, isn't he?
unidentified
Huh?
david pollack
No, they were talking about.
george santos
Oh, he's gone.
He's gone on Laura.
david pollack
Like, it was about Tulsi Gabbard and all kinds of stuff.
It's hard.
Tim, you were making an interesting point before.
You, at the beginning.
george santos
So you chose fire?
tim pool
American Odyssey.
phil labonte
Oh, great.
tim pool
So there was a character in.
unidentified
Great show.
david pollack
No, no, you're good.
unidentified
Go ahead.
tim pool
Yeah.
There was a character named Harrison in that show who was a one for one of my friend Harrison from Occupy Wall Street.
ian crossland
Harrison Sura?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Oh, different Harrison.
tim pool
Harrison Schultz.
Harrison, I get your name wrong.
ian crossland
I think that's his middle name is Sora.
Well, Harrison, who we came and worked with.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
So, Harrison, a good dude, smart guy.
He's an anarchist.
He was a moderately prominent figure during Occupy.
NBC made a show called American Odyssey where they had an Occupy angle and they cast an actor identical to him, had him on the show, named Harrison, and he couldn't do anything.
He couldn't stop him from doing it.
He was getting attacked by people being like, you sold your likeness, F you.
And he was like, I have nothing to do with this.
ian crossland
Harrison Schultz.
Yeah, we should pump him up.
Because he's awesome, dude.
unidentified
He's a good dude.
ian crossland
Enough to make a character of a TV show out of, like, he advances capiope and stuff.
tim pool
Capoeira?
Capoeira?
ian crossland
Is that what it's called?
He flies around the world.
george santos
He's a capoeira.
Capoeira.
unidentified
Capoeira.
george santos
Which is Capoeira.
It's a Brazilian martial czar's name.
unidentified
Russian, Brazilian.
His name is Tesura.
george santos
Oh, interesting.
Is he Brazilian?
ian crossland
Well, Harrison Schultz sort of might be his middle name.
tim pool
No, that's his cop where our name.
george santos
Oh, that's it.
Very cool.
ian crossland
I don't know if he's Brazilian.
tim pool
I don't think so.
george santos
You'd be shocked if they have a Schultz that there is in Brazil.
tim pool
I would not.
unidentified
You'd be shocked.
tim pool
What were you going to say?
david pollack
Yeah, earlier, two things is tying us all together from the pre show to now.
You said the Democrats were buying cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
david pollack
And you also talked about Billboard screwing you when you're making good music and they didn't want to give you the attention.
unidentified
That's right.
david pollack
That is not so much buying cool, too, it's the media is giving them cool.
Everything you hear on the radio is what the big business says.
This is what's cool, guys.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
But they're buying it.
And finally, the Jews figured it out.
I love how they're like, the Jews control everything.
Well, apparently not because the media is all in line.
Like you're talking about Candace getting a maybe ABC show.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The Ellisons are not stepping up.
george santos
And then there's Bob Iger who's also involved.
And he's, I don't understand how he.
Reconcile those two things.
Like, I'm going to put Candace Owens here, who's a rabid anti-Brexit.
david pollack
Because that's what they want people to believe.
tim pool
She'll say whatever they tell her to say.
But now you've got the Ellisons buying up Paramount and they're going to buy Warner Brothers.
So now they're going to own CNN.
Don't be surprised.
george santos
CNN is panicking.
unidentified
Panicking.
tim pool
I don't think so.
george santos
They're freaking out.
I have two friends who work in the newsroom.
The entire newsroom is like, we need to start putting job applications.
We need to unionize while we still can.
They're losing their mind.
tim pool
Bro, could you imagine?
Like, so the Ellisons, Larry and David, are they're MAGA.
george santos
They're MAGA.
tim pool
And they now own TikTok and CBS.
And Barry, I think, has been doing great at CBS and they are going after her like crazy.
ian crossland
Is this why MAGA has now transformed into a technocratic movement?
george santos
No, no, no.
MAGA has finally acquired a slither of Hollywood institutional power.
And institutional power for the first time in a decade.
david pollack
That's the secret.
unidentified
11 years.
george santos
I guess it's 15 to now.
unidentified
Why did they do it?
david pollack
Well, because we're losing the culture wars.
george santos
We've lost the culture war because they controlled all of Hollywood, all of the institutions.
And we had who?
Jamie Dimon, who at best is a right of center moderate.
david pollack
Can I make a quick analogy?
george santos
As conservative as we can get, or Schwartz over at Blackstone.
That was as good as it could get.
Steve Schwartz and Jamie Dimon.
david pollack
Well, let me make a quick illustration.
And I did.
I have media.
I showed this to my kids because I wanted to show them when they were younger how they could be manipulated by the media so they knew when they were being manipulated.
It was important.
And so we were watching America's Got Talent.
And I was showing them, I said, I want you to see something that television can do that's really clever, that makes you like somebody or not somebody based on the reactions they show and the way people react to things.
So I showed them, I said, watch, they want this guy because remember, these shows are pre taped and then there's the live show and they need people to vote.
And they're like, well, how do they know?
What they do in post is they go, okay, let's take the reactions, favorable reactions for these people, negative reactions for these people, even though they all made it through.
So when the live show comes, they have control over who wins.
And I said, do you see how they're being manipulated?
Go watch, this person comes up.
You might not think they're very good, but the person in the audience that they're showing is like, Crying, tears, people exciting, or the judges hitting the golden buzzer.
So, what you're seeing is society and social sort of validation.
Okay, this person's good.
This person's cool.
And that happens in real life all the time in media because if you're a trans person and you're on Disney, they're saying this person's cool.
And so, what do you have a bunch of kids doing?
Running around going, This is cool.
I'm trans.
And that is what Hollywood has done.
That's what television has done.
That's what news has done.
And so, by us buying or at least getting a share of it, we can make us cool, which goes to your original point.
The perception of cool has been defined by people who hate us.
tim pool
I want to stress this too with Carter here.
We put out a bunch of songs.
I think six of eight, like charted on Billboard in some capacity.
Yeah.
The first song we put out was Only Ever Wanted, and I think it caught the machine off guard.
Oh, yeah.
They did not know how to react to the fact that we put out a song.
Well, so first, the first song I put out was Will of the People a couple of years before I started working with Carter.
Then we put out Only Ever Wanted, and we charted on everything, I think.
carter banks
It was like number two on.
It was number one on alt.
tim pool
Number one on alt.
We beat Taylor Swift in sales on the world.
george santos
What if she started talking music and Ian's patches, emotional support guitar?
tim pool
So here's what happened.
Instantly, we got attacked by all the liberals.
george santos
You're kidding.
tim pool
They started, I don't want to name the individual, so don't say his name, but.
george santos
Oh, come on.
Name names.
tim pool
Everybody knows this guy.
I just don't want to give him extra airtime.
He intentionally, his people intentionally ran through like a low pass filter to make the song sound like a demo, like bad.
And then they made fun of it.
They did.
Everything they could to attack what is just generally an apolitical song that did really well.
And there were a lot of people, we got a lot of credit for it that were not political and didn't know who I was.
When our PR person reached out to entertainment publications, they told us to go F ourselves.
They intentionally emailed back saying, F you, Mega Chud, things like that.
ian crossland
You know what?
tim pool
So, real quick, this is because they need to control cool and culture, and they would not let us get a foothold.
So, this actually, the song did so well, Will of the People ended up charting after the fact because people then started buying up the other song and it reached number 17 on Alt, I think.
So then we put out several more songs, and every time we would, for some reason, we did a snag that would prevent the billboard charting.
And the last major release that we did well, actually, that's the second to last was Together Again, which sold like 40,000 singles in a week, has like 15 million streams in well, I think I like 8 million streams in the first week.
All of that should have tracked and put us somewhere in the Hot 100, the like the Cadillac of the billboard.
We coordinate with all these companies.
They told us what to do.
We said, we will do it.
Before, during, we said, before, tell us what to do.
Do this.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
During, is everything good?
Every day.
carter banks
Every single day.
Dude, I got receipts, emails.
tim pool
Every day.
Are we doing it correctly this time?
Yes, you are.
Is this being tracked?
Yes, it is.
unidentified
This will count.
tim pool
Yes, it will.
And then when it ended, they said, oops, you made a mistake.
So we did not reach the charts where we should have.
And this is a team up with the Daily Wire.
We did this.
It is a machine meant to keep outsiders out.
They control what's cool.
And if you don't bend the knee, you are not in.
That's why Hollywood celebrities.
That's why Hollywood celebrities go up their award shows and then say things like, oh, climate change, stolen land.
george santos
Stolen land living on stolen land.
ian crossland
They can't control what's cool, but they can control what you see.
And so you can't fabricate cool with a nice suit.
If you're not confident, you're not cool.
tim pool
And when you have.
ian crossland
But you can prevent people from seeing cool.
And that's what these gatekeepers have seemed to have done sometimes.
tim pool
Let's not even talk about us.
Let's make it about somebody else.
Tom McDonald, who hits it out of the ballpark every release, he should be charting on Billboard with every song, and they keep.
Him out.
They told him that they won't track his album sales for no reason.
He had a bunch of albums that said, those don't count.
That's what they do because it's been now with CBS purchase.
I don't know the opinions of the Ellisons.
Never met them.
Maybe they don't like me.
Maybe they do.
But it seems like there is now a path towards access to audience that the world can't control.
carter banks
It's like the Hungry Hungry Hippo thing because the first time our YouTube streams didn't count as streams like they should have with Only Ever Wanted and we still charted.
So I was trying to knock that one out.
And then as I'm doing that, they're changing a rule over here.
tim pool
Not just that.
Only ever wanted was on YouTube trending.
Yeah.
And so was Genocide, the first two songs that we put out.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then all of a sudden they stopped.
carter banks
So they booted us off Bandcamp right after Genocide.
tim pool
They banned us.
We were, they deleted our Bandcamp account for no reason.
We broke no rules.
These songs are not political.
Only Ever Wanted is basically just a song about a guy whose wife died.
david pollack
No, you're perceived to be political, and therefore you're not allowed to have a voice.
Yeah, but then your politics don't align with theirs.
george santos
But here's the interesting thing Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood, for instance, they're legacy.
They are legacy, and they can't.
Look at the Country Music Awards.
I forget what they're called.
Is that what they're called?
Country Music Awards?
unidentified
CMAs, yeah.
george santos
CMAs or whatever.
They're both on there all the time, and there's nothing nobody can do.
And Carrie Underwood besties with them.
david pollack
Yeah, but Beyonce is the Country Artist of the Year.
george santos
That's, yeah, because her husband had to create a deflection and buy something, but again, allegedly.
unidentified
Well, this is changing.
tim pool
And it's funny.
This is the weirdest thing.
george santos
Barry Weiss is a genius.
tim pool
She's the intellectual dark web 2.0, effectively, right?
I certainly think there's grounds for criticism of her.
Nobody's perfect, but she's been doing a fantastic job with CBS.
unidentified
Amazing.
tim pool
They've been covering the Medicaid, Medicare fraud stuff that Nick Shirley highlighted heavily in December.
So they're picking that up.
They're not overtly right wing or pro Trump.
They've been doing a decent job.
When the story from Nick Shirley broke, they didn't say he's a liar or grifter.
They said, actually, look at this corroborating evidence of arrests and DOJ investigations.
So I've been a big fan of what they're doing.
But look at what the left and the corporate press is doing.
Look at what Megyn Kelly is doing.
Why are these people attacking Barry Weiss all of a sudden?
What did she do?
george santos
Oh, Megyn Kelly's sour.
tim pool
Barry Weiss did one thing that she did.
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tim pool
She tweeted that she was a proud Zionist.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Barry Weiss, because when you look at the work at CBS, nothing stands out.
I read CBS every day when I'm doing the news.
Some stories I think are not done too well.
Some I think are doing well.
I think she's changing it for the better.
But there's nothing where she's like going on there.
There's no stories that are overtly political.
ian crossland
What's the final goal of Zionism?
tim pool
Homeland for the Jews in Israel.
ian crossland
Is that, do they talk about how big it's going to be?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
No.
It's worried about greater Israel.
ian crossland
Don't they have a homeland for the Jews in Israel right now?
unidentified
That's what it's about.
george santos
Not without fights and war and a peaceful.
Yeah, peaceful.
ian crossland
Peaceful country for all of us.
tim pool
I would argue that Zionism does not assert peaceful.
Brutal, vengeful, any of that.
It's just literally a homeland.
Having a homeland for the Jews in uncontested.
george santos
Uncontested.
tim pool
Exactly.
That's what I mean.
george santos
So, with the West Bank, without any disputes, because like of Judea, Samaria, West Bank.
ian crossland
Well, take it from an American, there's going to be contests forever about who was there first, just so you know.
tim pool
Well, it was the Jews.
ian crossland
Well, before that, it was the Canaanites.
george santos
Oh, God.
phil labonte
Where are the Canaanites now?
Where are the Canaanites now?
Are they fighting the inner bird?
david pollack
Where are the dinosaurs?
They were fighting the Jews for them.
tim pool
Ian, I agree.
If the Canaanites were there and making assertions to the land, we'd have a conflict, but they don't.
So, the groups are the Palestinians who were there at the time of the mandate, and some of the people who are there actually are Jews and Arabic Israelis.
But then there were a lot of people who migrated to Israel and purchased land because of a lot of conflicts in Europe.
So, everyone's going to claim their rights.
george santos
Are you saying that the only.
So, the Jews who have the.
Sorry to cut you off, but the Jews who have the claim are the Sephardic Jews, not the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe who essentially invaded?
Is that the.
unidentified
No, no, I'm not saying that.
george santos
No, no, I'm not saying you're saying that.
I'm saying, but that's the greater distinction.
unidentified
So, the.
tim pool
The greater dispute is too massive and intertwined to even begin to untangle.
george santos
Because then you can talk about Bukharian Jews, which I think have been there before the Sephardic.
unidentified
What is it?
george santos
Like an Afghan Jew.
tim pool
Right.
So one of the issues is the left argues that the Palestinians are the Jews.
That after Islam took over and forced the Jews to either flee or convert, the argument is the Jews who fled to Europe are the descendants of those who refused to convert, and the Palestinians are the Jews who gave in to the sword.
And so this dispute is actually, from many liberals' argument, A dispute of the return of the Jews to land that has since changed and they have no right to claim.
Cool.
Whereas many of the Jews are like, no, we never gave in.
phil labonte
I mean, a lot of this is post colonial theory too in practice because they look at the Ashkenazi Jews as white Europeans that have invaded the land.
And so it's the colonization of an indigenous people.
It's the same kind of stuff that you get when you hear people doing land acknowledgements here in the States or in Canada.
It's the same kind of stuff that you hear about all over Africa.
george santos
But then listen to what Tim just said, right?
A lot of those Ashkenazis are actually the descendants of the Jews who were flipped.
Yeah, but they're not, they're returning home to them.
Yeah, but the left, but I understand what you're saying.
phil labonte
The left of the left, the modern left of today that is aligned with the United States.
george santos
It is an invading force.
phil labonte
The dynamic that they see is always the powerful versus the.
george santos
But not really.
tim pool
It's anti white.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, that is true, but that's what post colonial theory is.
It's just anti white.
tim pool
But I'm saying, like, the argument that it's the oppressor versus the oppressed is just the skin they put over.
We don't like white people.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
george santos
As the only non white person here, That's not true.
phil labonte
You look pretty white there.
What are you, Italian?
george santos
No, not even.
No, quite literally, ethnically speaking, 32% Angolan and the rest is like Eastern European.
tim pool
Depends on the culture.
phil labonte
You're white, shut up.
tim pool
No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
If you support Trump, you're white.
If you don't, you're mixed.
ian crossland
The whites kind of got it.
You're a guest of white.
phil labonte
When we split off, I'm too much of a queen to be anything.
ian crossland
12,000 years ago.
unidentified
That's actually.
ian crossland
My theory on the whites is like 12,000 years ago after the Flood, all of humanity was there in Mesopotamia.
A bunch of them went north, whereas just not a lot of sunlight.
It was bright white, so their skin got lighter.
And then they had to hunt because they couldn't grow crops, so they got all lizard like and bloodthirsty.
Then they came back south like 8,000 years later and rotted all these armorites.
phil labonte
Bro, just yesterday we were talking about how there are chimpanzees that are having a civil war.
It has nothing to do with how it was.
ian crossland
Oh, they got bloodlust because they had to hunt.
So they came back with that bloodlust and lizard like momentum.
tim pool
You ready for this one?
Do you guys know about the Out of Africa theory?
george santos
No.
phil labonte
To some degree.
george santos
No, not at all.
tim pool
This is the, it's an old theory that humans emerged in Africa and then traveled around and through environmental pressure.
george santos
I didn't know that, sorry.
tim pool
Different races emerged.
However, it's being challenged now because human remains have been found in the Americas and in Asia that predate the Out of Africa theory, which proves one thing.
george santos
Oh, hold on.
tim pool
It proves the Great Flood Theory.
george santos
Or would it go back that there were humans during Pangea?
unidentified
Maybe?
tim pool
This is the Great Flood Theory.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That the Adam and Eve Theory is that every 6,500 years, The earth tilts 90 degrees from a pole shift happening, and then the core spins and flips.
Then the earth tilts, the poles go to the equator, causing all the water to wrap around, making a big flood that wipes everything out.
If a great flood happened, what would you see in the fossil record for humanity?
You'd see humans emerging all over the planet at the exact same time because the survivors in their key locations emerge from whatever survival fortress or whatever mountain, wherever they're at, and start rebuilding.
So then you see there's no records of humans anywhere just in these key locations appearing all at once.
ian crossland
And then you get Whitey.
And Whitey comes back with a vengeance because Whitey is thirsty for blood.
unidentified
Oh, God.
Whitey, shut up.
ian crossland
It's funny.
That's why the Northerners are white.
unidentified
It's not even water.
george santos
It's not even water.
tim pool
It's actually funny that they're in the face of violence.
unidentified
You're lying.
ian crossland
You're dehydrated.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Actually, the Asians are.
phil labonte
Look at crime statistics.
Whitey is not thirsty for blood.
That's literally what you just said.
That's proper Jeffrey Dollar.
ian crossland
I think that because they couldn't grow crops up north, They learned to hunt and they came back with a hunter's mentality.
george santos
No, I think you're right.
tim pool
You are completely wrong.
Look at the Mediterranean.
They have siesta.
ian crossland
Yeah, they lay around and sleep in midday when these people are like sharpening their swords, getting ready to prepare for the winter.
tim pool
You are just so wrong.
ian crossland
I don't think so.
phil labonte
This is a 100% thing show.
White people are not more like.
george santos
I think you're confusing white people with the Mongols.
unidentified
With the lizard people.
george santos
With the Khan.
No, I just think.
tim pool
Bro, this is anti white Marxist fake news.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm trying to.
tim pool
The theory is that humans emerged in Africa, traveled around the world, and then, due to various pressures, became specific.
george santos
He thinks that all white people are like Genghis Khan here.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So here's the point Genghis Khan conquers a continent.
Native Americans, Asians who crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas, were less violent, mostly because of how expansive the Americas were.
So they didn't procreate enough to the point where social population pressures would start to factor in.
The idea is that.
Winter created a group of people that worked harder than they needed to.
So, what happens is people move up north due to proxy, they're constantly looking for new plates where they can find food.
Then, a group of humans are in the north where winter comes.
Those who were overworked and prepared for the winter survive, and those who didn't die.
Those people have kids, and you create a culture of, I have to work all the time no matter what.
These people then moved further south back to the Mediterranean where food was more abundant, but maintained that I must work all the time no matter what.
ian crossland
I call them the sea peoples.
tim pool
So, what happens is you have two groups of people right now those who sleep in the middle of the day for siesta.
Because it's warm and there's food and fruit everywhere, and they can fish whenever they want.
And those who came back down and said, I have to keep working.
The theory is this is where mathematics is born.
Humans sitting around with no work left to do but wanting to work started exploring and working on problems they didn't need to.
And this creates technology.
ian crossland
Yeah, the Greeks, that makes a lot of sense.
david pollack
The Romans.
tim pool
That's the theory of why they started doing math and research and philosophy because they were an industrious people without the requirement for industry.
ian crossland
I think that's where, because I'm not saying all white people, but the Northerners that did that, like we were.
People that you were just referencing that had gone white.
Well, I'll say it again.
george santos
I said white.
tim pool
And the jihadis came.
Then the jihadis came and started massacring everybody through northern Africa and into eastern Europe through Spain.
ian crossland
That's future forward, though.
Back in the day.
Oh, that's like 700 AD, 800 AD.
But in like 1200 BC, 4000 BC.
george santos
I'm talking 1400s.
phil labonte
4000 BC?
ian crossland
Yeah, like during the Egyptians, like all those northerners that were like, you know, the Marathas, 1600 BC is when the Sea Peoples arrived through, and they just came and they just moved.
Migrated and changed the entire demographic of the Middle East basically in 16.
And no one knows where they came from, assumedly the North.
unidentified
See clearly.
Yeah.
george santos
Okay, Mr. One Liner.
david pollack
I mean, see clearly about fleeing famine and stuff.
You mentioned something that made my mind go somewhere, and that seems to be how we're doing this.
So you talked about people being busy versus people having free time, and the free time people were thinking people.
And then you think about where we are now and all of the distraction with technology and the fact that we are constantly occupying our mind with.
Nonsense, which keeps us from actually thinking.
And if you look at the people who started this country, they were thinking people, right?
And if you look at the people in ancient Greece, like you mentioned, they're thinking people.
And it almost seems like people who want to control everything is figured out.
All they have to do is keep us busy working.
So both the man and the wife are working constantly.
You can't afford anything.
We live in a world where you can't stop working, even though technology that we've created theoretically should free our time.
But I think the people in power don't want to free our minds because if we free our minds, we would see that this whole thing is nonsense and BS and we've been controlled.
The whole time.
So you're talking about something that's so interesting.
And then the sea people, of course.
tim pool
We're chickens in a chicken coop, man.
david pollack
Yeah, I agree with that.
tim pool
And the people that run the show, presidents, politicians who have access to classified information, they're sitting there being like, these people have no idea what's going on.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
george santos
So, on purpose.
There's so many topics that I get looped into and people want to talk about.
david pollack
Aliens.
Got to talk about the aliens.
george santos
And I don't talk about that because that was on the.
But that was a hot topic in 23.
We were briefed up the.
phil labonte
You were in Congress.
What do you know?
george santos
I can't say.
Not without the risk of being.
tim pool
Okay, well, don't.
Let's change the subject.
Do you want to tell me a fantasy story about wizards and elves?
unidentified
No.
What do you mean?
george santos
You should ask Matt Gaetz to come here and talk about breeding.
tim pool
Tell me, make up.
A story about how the Great Wizard Council went to the Council of Mages to explain invading orcs.
george santos
All I can say is there's so much information that politicians operate with that the general public do not have the slightest iota of what's going on.
And they form opinion, hold on, they form opinion based on what ifisms or because there's people on the internet like Candace Owens who says, I have a source, or even look, and a friend of mine, Jack Posobiak, my sources tell me this.
And then you have Ed and Brian Cress inside, my sources tell me this.
Alien Hybrid Breeding 00:03:13
george santos
At the end of the day, it's all that none of this stuff.
I'm sorry, I gotta.
david pollack
You didn't read the rules.
tim pool
Do you believe in aliens?
You don't gotta tell me any classified information.
george santos
I do, I do, yes, I do.
phil labonte
You think, like, when you say aliens, do you are you saying that you out of this earth?
So, you believe, yes, you believe that there have been intelligent communications from another from another planet from space or another dimension.
david pollack
That's a hypothetical.
george santos
I believe there has been communication.
I believe there has been communication between the humans and another intelligent life form that is out of another planet, of an indeterminate location.
Yeah, exactly.
From outside of this planet.
ian crossland
They're both outside and inside.
They're inside this.
That's what they'll tell you if you ask them, Where are you?
tim pool
I'm going to say, I believe.
Sometimes, out of the corner of your eye, you see them for a brief moment because that's when they're passing through our frame of time.
ian crossland
You know, and I've smoked DMT twice.
george santos
Stop saying that because this is how I have floaters in my eyes.
And now I'm going to think it's shadow fucking shit.
George, George, George.
I have diabetes.
George, George.
You can melt.
After I'm here with all these lights, I have a shit ton of floaters in my eyes.
ian crossland
Now I'm going to think it's shadow people.
So you can melt them away with sunlight.
Just take the heat.
Sunlight will melt them away if you aim for it.
George, just take it with your eyes closed.
phil labonte
George, my take on it is as far as we know, according to physics, right?
You know, the physics that Einstein has left us with.
The speed of light is the speed limit of the universe.
It's not just the speed of light, it is the speed of causation, cause and effect.
That's why if the sun disappeared, it wouldn't just take eight minutes for the light to get here, it would take eight minutes for the gravitational effects to happen.
I don't believe that there's anything that has traveled faster than light because it's the speed of causation according to the physics we know.
Do you believe that there are physics that we have not found?
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
george santos
There are physics that.
unidentified
All right.
george santos
There are physics.
I. Albert Einstein, probably smartest mind in physics history.
ian crossland
Before you came along.
george santos
Oh, yeah.
Excuse my chops in physics, right?
Professor PhD here.
No, to your question, I believe that there are quantitative physics that are completely alien to the human being.
unidentified
Okay.
george santos
At the civilian level.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That's where I. What does that mean?
george santos
At the civilian level.
tim pool
Like, there are private companies that have technologies we've not seen?
george santos
No, government.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, I mean, there are things.
george santos
When I say civilian, I mean, the government has access to technology.
It is not yet or does not believe the world population is yet ready to comprehend.
phil labonte
That makes sense.
unidentified
That is a fact.
phil labonte
That makes sense because there are.
tim pool
That's why those scientists are dying and disappearing.
phil labonte
Well, that makes sense because there are ideas.
tim pool
No, they're civilian scientists getting close to, like, so there are a lot of stories about people.
Classified Physics Secrets 00:12:23
george santos
Did you see the Brazilian?
I'm sorry to cut you off.
Did you see the Brazilian?
tim pool
Let me make this point.
phil labonte
I just want to get one point out.
There were ideas that were born classified.
It's what they talked about with the Manhattan Project and in physics.
There are ideas and theories that are born classified.
So as soon as they're thought up, the government says that's classified, you can't tell anyone.
So I understand what you're saying.
tim pool
So let me not make my point.
There are a lot of stories about scientists who were killed, missing, had their research stolen from them.
That is when you are up here technologically and humans are down here.
And, you know, I want you to imagine it like a Christmas tree covered in lights where only one light is on at a time, so it's blinking.
It's very easy to snip those lights out like a whack a mole.
But as time goes on, communications expand.
The speed at which the lights start popping up starts rapidly increasing.
george santos
You can't whack them fast enough.
tim pool
And you're whacked nine in the past few months and people start noticing.
unidentified
Yep.
george santos
Well, look, I'll put it this way Brazilian doctor and scientist in Brazil just invented a shot and a treatment that will make a paraplegic walk again.
Literally.
This is happening right now.
There is a treatment.
It's now amply available in Brazil.
They've put six different people are walking again.
That have not walked in decades and are doing physical therapy because now they have full control and sensation of their limbs, right?
She went AWOL, I think it was three days ago.
ian crossland
Really?
Are you pulling that out of the story?
george santos
Yeah, that's her.
tim pool
A Brazilian scientist's experimental paralysis therapy is fueling hope and hype.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Spinal cord injections.
george santos
It's wild.
tim pool
Her name is Bruno Drummond.
unidentified
Is that her name?
tim pool
No, no, that's the person who was.
george santos
No, no, that's the patient.
tim pool
Tatiana Sampao.
george santos
What is she injecting?
unidentified
Sampao.
george santos
So look at that Russian name, Tatiana.
ian crossland
Do you know off the top of your head what she's injecting?
george santos
Oh, I mean, I didn't get into the whole thing, but apparently it's a very vulgar drug that's been ample available, but she just tweaked it and experimented with it.
tim pool
And there's a lot of people claiming this.
george santos
Look at this.
tim pool
But she's missing?
george santos
Apparently, three days ago, she went AWOL, according to Brazilian news sources.
unidentified
Really?
george santos
Like, where is Tatiana?
Like, that was kind of like the she's been radio silent or something bizarre.
ian crossland
Maybe she's working for the government now.
unidentified
See people.
george santos
I mean, look, like I said, and then going back to what we were talking about.
So, when you hear Matt Gaetz, I mean, obviously, and I can say this, I can refute this.
I did not get briefed on humanoids and crossbreedings.
I thought that was a wild statement.
I actually thought that was an April Fool's joke for a hot minute there because it was an interview posted on April 1st.
tim pool
Day before, though.
It was posted the day before.
george santos
Oh, was it?
unidentified
Yep.
george santos
Oh, because I only saw it on April.
tim pool
News picked it up the next day.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
george santos
So that's why I was like, I think this is just an April Fool's joke.
But then again, it's serious.
I spoke to Tim Burchett the other day, who's a dear friend and is a.
tim pool
Did he grab you and shake you and say, George, George, the real?
george santos
Brother, big G, I got to tell you something.
No, so we're actually going to be dang gum it, but we're going to be talking about this topic on my podcast next week.
Um, and it's crazy because it's a topic that's not going away.
And I don't think there's a way for the government to keep putting a lid on any of this anymore.
ian crossland
There's two aspects of this.
george santos
There's no lid.
There's no what Tim just said is so spot on with the connectivity aspect.
Manhattan Project was so easy to keep hush hush on most, and even then we failed.
Think about it.
tim pool
But it was compartmentalized to a degree where no one really knew what was going on, but people knew something was happening.
Was it 300,000 people working on this project?
And they compartmentalized all the information.
george santos
40% of them were foreigners.
ian crossland
And now, like AI Data Breach makes that near compatible.
george santos
That is a great commercial on why not to do H 1Bs.
If we did not have foreigners working on the Manhattan Project, nobody would have figured out nuclear weaponry, at least not so fast, because they essentially stole of our work.
david pollack
But we wouldn't have figured it out either.
george santos
No, we would have.
ian crossland
You know, my two takes on aliens is you've got your chimeras.
unidentified
Oh, we would have.
ian crossland
You get your chimeras, which is what you're talking about human animal hybrids, which I think they are working on and they may be using to destroy.
tim pool
The human Z.
ian crossland
Yeah, you get stuff like that.
tim pool
You know about the human Z?
ian crossland
But animal hybrids.
And then the other aspect is if there are, like, They call them like a.
george santos
Stop what you're doing, Tim.
You know what you're doing.
ian crossland
DMT spirit elves.
They say that there's like personas that you can perceive with others.
If those things are real, there may have built technologies that can tune in and listen and talk to them, communicate with them.
david pollack
Can we pause for one second and go back to what he said?
tim pool
The human Z?
ian crossland
No, the DMT spirit realms.
This is another thing.
We'll talk about mirrors.
david pollack
Real quick, because you said, I don't want to, and then we can go to the human Z because I'm dying to know about this.
You talked about Einstein and the rules.
unidentified
Yeah.
david pollack
I think those are the reason why nobody has disproven Einstein's theories and rules.
The math always works, but it works in the world in which they apply.
phil labonte
Yeah.
david pollack
So that is the limit to them.
They work in our universe.
phil labonte
Well, okay.
david pollack
So it doesn't mean they work in other ones.
phil labonte
Well, okay.
So that's a different universe would be a different thing.
So as far as we know, and this is only talking about what we know, that's why I asked if there was stuff that George or if George believed that there was.
Believe.
Yeah, believe.
I'm being careful with my articulation.
If there was stuff that George believed that we have yet.
To discover or that.
david pollack
No, I think we've discovered.
phil labonte
But that's.
I'm.
tim pool
And the problem with that question is the answer to any reasonable person is always going to be yes.
It's just not a question that needs to be asked.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, as of right now, there haven't been any significant public discoveries.
george santos
That's not true.
phil labonte
In physics?
george santos
It's not true.
phil labonte
I said public.
george santos
Public?
No, it's not.
tim pool
Yeah, well, that's.
george santos
But you just got to read it in between the lines.
Logic Artemis 2 right now.
tim pool
Zero point propulsion?
george santos
Well, not.
Okay, sure.
But let's talk about Artemis 2 right now.
unidentified
Why did.
george santos
For those.
I know that I don't know what crowd this is, but.
Do you believe we've gone to the moon?
Yes or no?
unidentified
Yes.
george santos
Okay, great.
ian crossland
Generally, I've had some really smart people tell me they don't think so, which is weird.
phil labonte
Just he's going to drive it off the road every time.
ian crossland
I haven't seen proof either way, but I was definitely bought in.
tim pool
We talked about the zero point propulsion thing when the story came out.
george santos
I think I was here for that.
tim pool
Yeah, you might have been.
What they do is they fire particles.
george santos
I always talk about aliens in tech when I'm here.
tim pool
In a vacuum against a plate, they fire particles at it.
The particles create no inertial effect, but upon impact, They create a very, very tiny one.
So it's a net zero at production of the energy and a net positive physically.
So, hypothetically, the internal zero point engine fires a stream of particles at a plate, which again, the firing produces no recoil effect.
The impact of the plate produces a minor impact effect, which drives the whole thing forward.
ian crossland
Are they firing protons?
phil labonte
But that's still.
tim pool
I think it's electrons.
phil labonte
It's still governed by Einstein's.
Understand all of them.
tim pool
That actually does not necessarily.
george santos
It's not necessarily.
tim pool
Yeah, no, the idea that.
george santos
Colors outside the lines of everything Einstein, on the Einstein doctrine.
tim pool
Well, we were just like, you're creating propulsion with no propulsion.
george santos
You're creating gravitational effects.
david pollack
It's a pure violation of what the speed of that propulsion will still be limited by the time.
tim pool
You still can't use the amount of energy produced.
So, no, but the idea is the fundamental physical rule is like if you're in space and you're spinning, right?
You're spinning backwards, you throw something down and you'll spin faster.
You throw it up and then you'll stop.
The force counteracts, right?
When you release the object.
So, again, if you have a gun in space and you fire it, watch when drones shoot guns, boom, they go like that.
david pollack
Whatever has more energy will affect the speed.
tim pool
So, this zero point propulsion creates no recoil effect.
But produces one after the fact, which seems to violate the laws of thermodynamics.
phil labonte
Yeah, but that's.
david pollack
But thermodynamics aren't so bad.
phil labonte
Einstein didn't get into thermodynamics of anesthesia.
unidentified
I know, they're older.
george santos
Thermodynamics is governed by physics.
phil labonte
What?
george santos
Thermodynamics is governed by.
tim pool
Well, yeah, yeah.
It's the laws of physics.
Exactly.
ian crossland
Newtonian physics.
Those were Newton's ideas.
phil labonte
I don't think Newton did those.
tim pool
Not only that, but when you get into quantum scale stuff, they make sense anyway.
david pollack
Well, but at the end of the day, to brace this to brass tacks, and what I want to talk about to Human Z is the fact that no matter what we create, We're still up against if we're talking about space travel and we want to get to the nearest galaxy, you would need lifetimes and plus so much radiation you would die.
And even if you could travel the speed of light, I don't think that's true.
george santos
You know, I actually strongly disagree.
david pollack
What's the closest Alpha Centauri?
How many light years is that away?
unidentified
11.
It's 11 light years.
Pretty sure it's 11.
david pollack
Okay, so 11 light years.
george santos
That was so spot on.
phil labonte
I mean, I watch a lot of YouTube on this, so that's why I asked you about, you know, if the physics, you know, or that's why I talk about the physics that we understand right now.
george santos
I watch a lot of stuff.
Did you see Tim Burchett commenting on?
The Matt Gaetz interview.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We talked about it.
george santos
Spaceships on the sides of the football field.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Moving 200 miles an hour underwater.
phil labonte
No, I'm sorry.
Alpha Centauri is 4.37.
tim pool
Because they can phase matter.
david pollack
Well, see, now we're talking about something totally different, right?
If we're talking about phasing matter and doing things, where does that technology come from?
Does it come from space?
I guess my question is does it come from space or somewhere else?
tim pool
Warp technology was conceptualized in like the 40s or 50s and they made a TV show about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, when it comes to warp stuff like that, it's, it, In theory, that's fine.
Right now, the ability, as far as we know, the ability to bend space requires such an amount of energy that, as of our understanding, we can't control.
ian crossland
That's the big cop out that the government will always tell you.
We just don't have enough energy.
Hold on, hold on.
tim pool
Again, again.
Of course, we can't control.
The question is, can it be controlled?
And the answer is likely yes.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good point.
ian crossland
You get enough energy, you can charge a particle so high and then fire it at an object.
It will go around the object and through it.
They call it quantum tunneling.
phil labonte
It doesn't go around, it goes through it.
ian crossland
They say it goes through it, but I guarantee if you see it close enough, it's slipping around it.
tim pool
Well, I think that Dyson spheres probably exist.
phil labonte
It's not clunky.
tim pool
And the perfect harnessing of energy and manipulation of it exists.
And then, one kind of joke hypothesis I have is that as we watch all of our technologies continually get smaller and more efficient, would it not come to a point where we have like a single series of like a small little grid of particles that enable you to do literally anything?
george santos
Micro nano particles.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like it's a three body problem.
They have the sophons that can basically do anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like technology becomes so small and so compact.
The other question is is it possible then, if you follow that train of thought, that the simple knowledge of the equations would grant you godlike powers?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's why the information will be obfuscated in the system.
And it's the guy like Neo that goes into the matrix and can reverse engineer the code so that he can make anything appear.
tim pool
I don't know that the human mind has the capability to come to that point.
When we are mapping the physics of the universe and writing this stuff out, we're writing out the code of the universe.
And so the code.
Imagine it's a chessboard and we've not even filled in a quarter of one of the squares in the bottom left.
And that whole map of physics is just waiting for us to start building up.
With AI, it's going to like crazy.
david pollack
That's a good point.
unidentified
Soon.
Very soon.
george santos
Singularity.
ian crossland
The connection between the quantum spin state and the subatomic classical mechanics is really interesting.
tim pool
What if particles are actually just because space and time are actually cyclical?
And when we look at electrons, we're actually looking at suns.
Because the further you go down, you're actually just, you know what I mean?
Like, it's infinity.
ian crossland
I thought that an electron can spin down and up somewhere else.
So, like, it could disappear as it's appearing on a star.
unidentified
I'm just baiting him at this point.
Remember in Men in Black?
phil labonte
Just like he does on Twitter.
It's just like he does on Twitter.
tim pool
Remember in Men in Black the galaxy on Orion's belt?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And then they look inside of it and there's planets.
And then the movie zooms out and then they're a marble being played with by some aliens.
unidentified
Yes.
Yep.
george santos
It's closing credits.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, the further you shrink down smaller and smaller and smaller.
It's all actually one loop.
Size is a circle, not a line.
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
The toroidal.
unidentified
I know.
ian crossland
I believe that.
I believe that the universe is a torus.
They think it's expanding because of the red shift, they call it.
They think that it's getting further away faster because it looks like the wavelength is expanding.
But what you're doing is you're seeing a wavelength from a different angle.
So it looks like a longer wavelength.
So the color changes, but it's really wrapping around and coming back through again.
Cosmic Size Loops 00:12:48
ian crossland
It's going to big crunch again through the center, wrap around again.
They'll call it the big bang.
tim pool
You know what's really funny is actually the big crunch was considered discredited, but now they're bringing it back.
The big crunch is the idea that the universe appears to be expanding.
There's a single point, big bang.
But then, as matter starts collapsing into itself, forming black holes, they eventually start collapsing into themselves and then all crush back into a singularity again.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then it's like the universe is going like this, like pulsing back and forth.
And then it turns out that the universe itself is actually a single particle.
unidentified
I said, What?
tim pool
A single particle.
unidentified
Okay.
george santos
See, these conversations make me go home and sit down, stare in the ceiling, and have an existential conversation.
Like, absolute, like, question of everything.
ian crossland
Like, stretch your lower brainstem when you're doing it.
You'll have, like, epiphanic visions.
david pollack
Let's talk about the human Z. Let's talk about the human Z. How do you get to your lower brainstem?
tim pool
You ready for this?
ian crossland
You ready for this, George?
tim pool
The human Z is the hypothetical hybrid between a chimp and a human that apparently Soviets were trying to do it.
They claim it never happened, but I tell you this.
unidentified
Yeah, I believe it.
tim pool
Of course they're doing it.
Of course.
Now, here's the scary part.
You want the scary part about it?
You cannot take a female chimp.
And impregnate it with male material.
You know why?
Humans are too big, chimps are too small.
That means you have to take the chimps' material and put it in a female human.
The only way to create a human Z without artificial wombs is to inseminate a human female with a chimp hybrid.
unidentified
Gross.
tim pool
Yeah.
So when it comes to hybridization, the larger species always has to be the female to be able to carry the other species.
So what would happen?
We were talking about the other day with dogs.
george santos
I actually had a Chihuahua pit bull mix that the mom was the Chihuahua.
Interesting.
I actually.
tim pool
It could kill the dog and actually, it's a big problem.
It could.
unidentified
It could.
george santos
You're not lucky.
I adopted it.
tim pool
So there's a.
People talk about this.
Like, we talked about the other day if you took a dachshund and an Irish greyhound.
george santos
No, my head now is just imagining the little chihuahua and the pit bull.
How did that ever happen?
david pollack
He was hung.
tim pool
What might happen is that the mother's body will expel the babies before their gestation because the body cannot handle anymore.
It will just birth the babies.
And if the mother is too small for the larger male, the babies are just born premature and die.
ian crossland
I heard about the.
unidentified
What?
george santos
I got lucky because I adopted this dog.
tim pool
No, they can't exist.
So, again, with the human Z, a female chimp can't carry a large human baby, especially with the size of their heads.
So, the conspiracy theories are women are kidnapped and inseminated with chimp semen so that they give birth to chimp human hybrids.
ian crossland
I heard the girl banging the dolphin.
Did you guys know that girl?
carter banks
Yes, scientists.
ian crossland
That's a real story.
And the dolphin fell in love with her.
unidentified
Very rapey.
tim pool
Yeah, the dolphin was raping her and she gave in.
unidentified
It loved it.
phil labonte
And it was like, I think dolphins are very.
carter banks
She lived with it underwater for like six months or something.
tim pool
It was like a building where they had it flooded.
david pollack
Could you imagine a dolphin human hybrid, though?
That'd be kind of cool.
tim pool
I think he would just be like, kill me.
david pollack
The origins of Tucker's laugh.
george santos
I actually like his laugh.
unidentified
It's infectious.
george santos
What can I say?
tim pool
Actually, if you're wondering about a dolphin human hybrid, he's right here.
unidentified
Hey.
See?
That proves it.
Kill me.
Get me out of my misery.
I have a sword.
tim pool
Matt Gaetz talked about these breeding programs where women.
So here's the funny thing.
george santos
I know nothing about that.
I can say comfortably, I've never been briefed on that.
tim pool
That was wild to me.
He said people are being kidnapped from caravans and war zones to create alien hybrids.
Here's the thing you don't need to kidnap a man for his material to make a baby.
So if you're kidnapping any humans, it's for one reason to inseminate with an alien baby.
ian crossland
Did he say he heard it from like a skiff or something?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
He said a military guy briefed him.
george santos
I mean, do you want to pull that clip up so you can see it?
unidentified
That's crazy.
david pollack
Why are you pulling it up?
You know what it was?
george santos
Benny Johnson.
It was crazy.
david pollack
The other day, I talked to somebody who says, I don't know if you work with Matt Gaetz.
george santos
Did he tell you anything on the sideline?
david pollack
I'm not going to talk about our private conversation.
tim pool
However, here, let's play it.
Wait, is this the video?
I don't know if this is the right video.
carter banks
I think that's where he admits that, well, he didn't admit anything.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Matt Gates claims military once briefed him on alien breeding program involving humans when he was in office.
Do they not have the embed here?
Let me pull it up on X.
david pollack
Well, if you think about it, Matt has a very large brain.
So maybe.
george santos
Yeah, he's a Neanderthal.
david pollack
He could be.
george santos
Matt, you heard that.
david pollack
I don't know, Matt.
george santos
Your coworker says you have a big head.
david pollack
I didn't say he had a big head.
He has a big brain.
george santos
No, you said big head.
david pollack
No, I said big brain.
ian crossland
He descended from.
david pollack
Check the tape.
ian crossland
He's definitely Neanderthal.
He's got that high Germanic forehead like me.
unidentified
There you go.
ian crossland
Well, my brother really has it.
matt gaetz
I think the most important information will be the biologics that are not human that have been discovered.
And, like, even some of the briefings that aren't classified just need to be out in the public.
I mean, I had someone come and brief me who was in a military uniform, worked for the United States Army, that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage in a galaxy.
An actual uniformed member of the United States Army briefed me on that.
george santos
You see, I didn't take it serious at first.
Non human biologics.
First, because of Matt's smile.
david pollack
Interracial alien mating?
What the F is going on?
Look, wait a second.
You had whistleblowers tell you this kind of thing?
Can you please unpack that?
matt gaetz
Yeah, I had a guy who was uniformed.
He was a senior enlisted with the United States Army, came into my office in Crestview, Florida, in a non classified setting.
I had members of my staff there.
And what they explained is that the military ran a very secret program.
where aliens that were living were in forced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted from war zones and from even the caravans of migrants.
Now, again, I didn't verify this, but what the whistleblower was telling me is that there were like between six and 12 locations around the country where this happened.
And what he wanted was members of Congress to all show up at the same time.
At all of these different locations, so that any of those activities could not be moved.
And of course, it's a physical impossibility to get members of Congress to simultaneously show up at like eight locations at a time.
And so that never occurred.
unidentified
What do you mean, non human biologics?
matt gaetz
Well, that was the testimony of David Grush before the House Oversight Committee, which I joined.
And the testimony was that in crashes of craft that had been recovered by the CIA and through a special.
Program that the CIA had for crash recovery, that it wasn't just the hard materials, it was also biologics, but that they couldn't identify a human source of those biologics.
ian crossland
They could have built them in laboratories with carbon.
Carbon machines are now, or it could be a total lie.
But to assume in any way that a guy told you there's off world life and just say, okay, then yes, is not the way to go for it.
tim pool
What's with the smear on the post?
Attacking Matt Gaetz over misconduct allegations instead of addressing the actual man.
david pollack
He can say anything and they'll do that.
tim pool
But my point is.
david pollack
He's selling lemonade.
tim pool
Why?
If you were genuinely concerned that Matt Gaetz was corrupt or bad, you'd be like, well, he's discrediting himself.
Why attack the message about the aliens?
ian crossland
Auto attack.
george santos
Because that community note was most likely written by somebody in the CIA who's pissed at Matt Gaetz right now.
unidentified
Exactly.
ian crossland
Yeah, the chimeric.
george santos
Abigail Spamberger probably typed this one herself.
ian crossland
Up to 12 chimeric.
Labs in the United States, according to Gates, I bet there's a lot of them across the world.
Like in the Ukrainian.
george santos
Look, I don't know.
I don't know that to be true.
But I will say that that's a little much, right?
If we're being honest with one another, I'm more on the vanilla side of the theories of the things I've been exposed to and briefed on.
And because they were in classified briefing settings, I'm unable to talk until they become declassified.
Or I will face.
Prosecution and I've done that.
Not fun.
phil labonte
No more jail.
george santos
No more jail for me.
I do not look good in yellow or orange.
So, my point here is I think that what the American people need to focus more about, and I think it's pressure from people, is to create pressure for there to be more transparency in government and sharing with us.
Like, what the hell are you guys cooking up?
Like, it goes back to the whole concept of Area 51, right?
Till this day, nobody can actually prove the existence of Area 51 unless you're.
There are things in the government, true statement, okay?
That the classification is above the scope of the President of the United States.
unidentified
Did you know that?
george santos
No.
Did you not know that?
There are things that are classified to a level in this country that a bunch of bureaucrats have determined that not even the President can be aware that only the director of the CIA or director of national intelligence and.
The in some specific cases, the secretary of war can actually be briefed on those things with their clearance is higher than the Q clearance.
Was that I don't know what it's called.
unidentified
I think that's the conspiracy.
ian crossland
I think they're working on with the Area 51 drones that they had developed.
Like Tesla was working on anti, I think, anti gravity.
He was working on a lot of like wireless transmission of power.
But then so they lied, they said it's aliens, you know, and they work on their secret drone program.
Today, they're working on their secret chimera, you know, animal hybrid program.
unidentified
I mean.
ian crossland
Developing life that can resist radiation, that can run faster, that can see farther.
And I don't know if it's ethical to tell the world about it, to be honest.
george santos
I think it's ethical.
I think it's unethical for humanity to be living in the dark, not knowing what lingers out there.
I don't think it's fair.
tim pool
Manhattan, there's a war going on right now.
You see all the things in the sky that everyone's filming?
The theory is that we're fighting a space battle and the Iran war is cover for the alien invasion.
george santos
Oh, so bad.
ian crossland
Blowing up satellites.
george santos
I mean, dude, do you know what's funny?
The quote, hot spot of the country in the United States for.
UAPs.
unidentified
Florida?
george santos
No, it's Hudson Valley, New York.
Did you know that?
phil labonte
I didn't know that.
tim pool
It's just Canadians.
People see them and they're like, look at those aliens.
george santos
It's a border conference.
It's essentially the hottest spot for these interactions and people claiming lost time.
Like, I was on the road, I saw light.
And then when I woke up, it was 11 hours later.
But it felt like a minute.
I'm like, okay.
So, like, all these things happen, but they're predominantly New York.
There's documentaries on this.
And again, the only reason I know this is I have a dad who's obsessed with this crap.
unidentified
What is this?
george santos
A map of what?
tim pool
This is a UFO heat map.
george santos
Oh, you see?
Look at how bright New York is.
ian crossland
It is a higher population, also.
So, that might have something to do with the infusion.
unidentified
Interesting.
george santos
That looks really hot on Long Island.
tim pool
Well, the reality is the sightings are just where people are.
ian crossland
And there are defense drones.
Yeah, I mean, we got D.C. and New York, our two hottest, our most valuable cities, basically, right there.
So you have air defense drones, probably, that they're experimenting with and hopefully propagating with.
tim pool
So we got one sighting in Libya.
ian crossland
I only suggest keeping the information from 1989.
Like an intense transparency.
Like, show the world everything, let the chips fall where they may.
But the Manhattan Project, for instance, if we'd showed the world that while we were working on it, we would have lost the war.
So, same with.
Hybrid programs, if we want to make the best superhuman soldiers, if we want the best secret drone technology that can go underwater and up into space, and like, I don't think we reveal it.
I don't think it would be smart to reveal it.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
This is this website's crazy.
unidentified
2002.
george santos
Oh, in Battery Park City?
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
Manhattan?
unidentified
Yep.
george santos
And it was just probably.
tim pool
Oh, this is Albany, maybe New York.
george santos
Oh, okay.
Well, that's I know.
I picked Battery Park City.
That's why I was like, wait.
ian crossland
I love that area.
george santos
I've always wanted to live there my whole life.
ian crossland
Battery Park.
george santos
Oh, really?
Downtown?
ian crossland
Right on the tip.
tim pool
Yeah, I love this.
george santos
Also, floods like hell.
What's this?
tim pool
Just in the middle of the Gulf.
US Navy cruiser, Gulf of Mexico, UFO at sea.
unidentified
Interesting.
george santos
Interesting.
tim pool
This website's cool.
I just searched UFO heat map.
george santos
Check what happens at the Bermuda Triangle.
Toilet Paper Panic 00:03:41
unidentified
Nothing.
phil labonte
Nothing, man.
ian crossland
It's a magnetic crossroad.
tim pool
I know, because there's nothing else.
george santos
Interesting.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Is that where we're going to have to defend against the AI?
We're like, come and get us.
We're in our last bastion, the Bermuda Triangle.
Your magnetics won't work.
george santos
That gives me Mila Jovovic last stands in Resident Evil, remember?
When they're like all on top of the White House.
In the second to last movie, they're all standing there on top of the White House, like, all right, we're going to go into like destroying this umbrella core.
unidentified
You remember that?
david pollack
I've never seen it.
george santos
Come on.
Am I the only one who watched Resident Evil here?
ian crossland
Yeah, the game was pretty good.
It was slow.
george santos
Oh, I'm obsessed with her.
She's so hot.
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
Oh, Jovovich is the jam.
george santos
She is the hot one.
ian crossland
I wish she was coding the AI.
We brought her up a couple days ago.
unidentified
Jovovich.
ian crossland
Jovovich, isn't it?
unidentified
Jovovich?
george santos
Oh, it's not Jovovich?
unidentified
Bug Jovovich.
Jovovich?
Yeah.
tim pool
Nobody calls her that.
Everyone calls her Mila Jovovich.
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
Mila Jovovich.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
george santos
She's so hot.
ian crossland
Dude, we're going to have.
george santos
She was just so hot.
tim pool
Are you going straight for her?
george santos
She was my teenage crush, dude.
david pollack
Like, what happened?
george santos
You know, I was married.
I've been there, done that, didn't like it.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Bro, let's talk about this, dude.
Look at this.
david pollack
You eat one bad oyster.
unidentified
This is a bad oyster.
george santos
Let's put it up real quick.
Did you see that Eric Adams just became a citizen of.
phil labonte
Armenia?
george santos
No, Albania.
tim pool
Check this out.
Check this out.
george santos
Somebody's getting ready for an escape plan.
tim pool
Here we go.
We got this from the New York Post.
Accused Kimberly Clark arsonist compared himself.
To Luigi Mangione in a call at the SoCal warehouse inferno.
Yo, these people are leftist terrorists.
carter banks
Oh, is that the guy who burned the toilet paper?
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
Apparently.
You saw this video?
george santos
I did.
tim pool
He's like, you better pay me more money.
unidentified
Yep.
george santos
Crazy.
tim pool
Commies, dude.
george santos
I deserve your stuff.
tim pool
That's what he was screaming.
You know what he needed?
He needed a smack to stop him from burning down.
That's nearly killing everybody.
phil labonte
He needed to move to Arizona.
david pollack
Is he Abdul Karim?
phil labonte
Not Karim, but it was something.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
Was it Karim?
tim pool
Abdul Karim.
carter banks
Is that one name?
david pollack
Is he Abdul Koram?
tim pool
His name's Kamel Abdul Karim.
david pollack
So is he Muslim?
unidentified
I don't know.
george santos
Doesn't matter if he's Muslim or an arsonist.
david pollack
No, no, no, because it matters because what's happening.
george santos
Who cares if he's Muslim?
He's an arsonist.
david pollack
If you watch my.
george santos
Hold on, is that Scott toilet paper?
unidentified
Just send him.
tim pool
It's Kimberly Clark.
unidentified
Send him to Kimberly Clark.
tim pool
It's triple ply.
david pollack
Yes, it's triple ply.
But the point is, the Islamists and communists have been working together.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
david pollack
And that's why I'm interested.
tim pool
Communism.
david pollack
Well, yeah, the Red Green Alliance.
phil labonte
The Red Green Alliance, yeah.
I wrote a piece on my Patreon.
george santos
I will say that.
I will say that.
david pollack
I have a whole special on it today.
george santos
That right there is going to rise the cost of toilet paper in California.
david pollack
I'm going to Costco right after this.
I mean, I can't be without it again.
Remember COVID?
george santos
I didn't have that issue in New York.
Did you have an issue without toilet paper?
tim pool
No.
david pollack
I never ran out of toilet paper.
george santos
Or we were bouncy in New York.
We didn't have that issue.
tim pool
We didn't because I read the news.
david pollack
Did anybody run out of toilet paper for real?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
All over the place.
The thing is, for us, I read the news every day.
So when I heard that there was a shortage, I went to Walmart, grabbed a bunch, and went home.
And then, like, a week or two later, they were like, yeah, we're running out.
george santos
You know what's crazy?
tim pool
Funny.
They literally, the Walmart narrative had very, very little toilet paper.
unidentified
It was nuts.
george santos
I remember when Target had, like, limits.
You can only have toilet paper.
david pollack
Well, I remember there was no toilet paper.
tim pool
No, Our Walmart was empty.
unidentified
Yeah.
david pollack
We filmed it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
On my Instagram, there's no toilet paper anywhere.
george santos
Interesting.
I mean, in New York, we had no issues with, like, I mean, I'm sure there were shortages, but, like, in my neck of the woods, we were.
Pretty decent.
I mean, we did have one problem with people wanting to hoard whatever they can get their hands on.
But I mean, how much toilet paper?
unidentified
I think tissues.
george santos
There's still people going through toilet paper from 2020 in New York.
I can guarantee that.
ian crossland
They actually made it, I think it was World War II in Canada.
It was illegal to hoard wheat or rice or something.
They would come and get you if you were trying to.
phil labonte
Yeah.
You guys see this?
tim pool
Are you kidding?
Brain Upload Dangers 00:03:09
tim pool
Somebody threw a molotov at Sam Maltman's house.
george santos
Did you know that I just discovered he's gay?
unidentified
He is.
george santos
I did not know that.
unidentified
Really?
george santos
I don't pay attention to him at all.
He just creeps me out.
So I didn't pay attention to him ever.
carter banks
He just looks creepy.
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
He creeps the shit out of me.
ian crossland
He's putting his brain in a computer.
I think I read that he said he's going to.
phil labonte
He wants to get his brain uploaded.
He said that it'll kill him.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
I mean, I guess the way that they actually will digitize your brain, it actually destroys your brain.
unidentified
Huh.
david pollack
Then you live forever.
phil labonte
I don't believe that.
tim pool
You know what would be really funny, guys?
He puts the brain cap on and they're like, we are uploading.
And he's like, I feel it.
It's happening.
And then they're like 65%, 70% power failure.
unidentified
Oh no.
tim pool
Oh no.
Only 70% of his brain got uploaded to the computer.
ian crossland
He's now in the power grid.
tim pool
He's dead.
What?
He's dead.
ian crossland
No, they lost all the turns in the system.
tim pool
So he's dead, and they turn the computer on.
And then they're like, Sam, we only were able to get 70% of your brain to work.
Are you there?
unidentified
And he goes, D.
ian crossland
Oh, I was so.
george santos
This is a hybrid, like, of a movie.
Lucy, which is Scarlett Johansson, meets.
tim pool
Elysium, like, we thought we were expanding his consciousness by uploading, but we only got 70%.
So now he's a functional retard.
phil labonte
Digital retard, he said.
I strongly think that the human experience is directly connected to your brain.
So I don't think that they can upload your brain and you'll actually be conscious in the computer.
tim pool
No, but the computer would have a facsimile of you.
phil labonte
Yeah, you would still die.
tim pool
But have you watched Invincible?
unidentified
Or Lucy?
tim pool
Have you seen Invincible?
unidentified
Or Lucy.
tim pool
So the character, the character robot in Invincible.
In the beginning, it's a robot called Robot that does all this sci fi stuff.
But then later, you find out it's actually a deformed, mutant, hyper intelligent dude in a vat controlling the robot with his mind.
And he's like, I am a pigeon.
And so, what he does is he takes the genetic material from another guy, clones himself, and copies his mind, creating two versions of himself, and then dies.
george santos
Hold on.
So, you're saying it was, I didn't watch the movie?
tim pool
The mutant guy kills himself after creating a clone of himself with all his memories.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So there is a version of him that exists, but he's actually.
ian crossland
I don't love myself enough to do that.
I'd rather just, like, if I can't be me, I'm not going to make another me.
tim pool
That's Star Trek canon, basically.
Actually, Star Trek canon doesn't make any sense because.
So I love the season six episode where Picard gets transported and comes back as a child, which makes no sense.
But the actual canon of Star Trek is that when you get beamed down, you die.
george santos
Oh, wow.
tim pool
And then it reconstitutes you with other matter.
unidentified
Hold on.
tim pool
Which implies the existence of a soul attached to a house.
george santos
I'm actually curious to see what a guy like him lives in.
tim pool
Oh, I don't think so.
george santos
I feel bad.
This is awful.
I'm not going to post pictures of this house.
david pollack
What if you take a God angle to this and you're trapped on Earth?
If you upload your consciousness, you're trapped on Earth forever as the ascending.
tim pool
The joke is it's a meme of a guy smiling.
It says, Me looking up from hell as a robot with a copy of my mind walked around pretending to be me.
unidentified
That's funny.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Well, I figured out how to snap people back to being PCs instead of NPCs.
NPC Reality Check 00:10:59
unidentified
Did you?
ian crossland
It's quantum wave duality.
You observe them and then the wave collapses into a particle, which is the spirit.
Going into them and then they like become.
tim pool
No, NPCs are real.
Let me tell you.
I was talking to someone about this and we were both talking about how NPCs are a real thing in that you could be like walking down the street and there's someone walking and if you bump into them, they behave identically to an NPC in a game.
They'll like stumble back and go, hey, watch it, man.
And then go right back to the track and walking like nothing happened.
And you know, the actual response is, well, yeah, the guy's going somewhere you bumped into and what's he going to do?
But in video games, you encounter a lot of people that seemingly can't deviate from a track.
They can't do anything out of the ordinary.
And that's.
unidentified
My father.
ian crossland
The end piece of the game is in reality, if you observe someone, they'll be like, Is someone watching me?
Like that men who stare at goats.
In a video game, I have yet to see that in a game yet, but they'll start introducing that.
george santos
That's kind of my dad.
You just described my dad.
Like he's like a horse, narrow vision.
Like he picks a path, nothing deters him from making that.
Like you cannot distract him.
tim pool
What's up with that?
You know, every time I drive down the road, I see cows.
And you know what those cows are doing?
Nothing.
They're just standing.
And I'm like, I always point out to my wife, I go, There's another horse literally just standing and staring.
There's a cow, literally just one time we were driving and a cow was walking.
george santos
I went, Oh, it's walking!
tim pool
Like, literally, we drive by the cows and they're all just standing there, not moving.
george santos
Yeah, great.
tim pool
Sometimes you see a meeting, sometimes the horses are eating, but I'm like, My wife goes, What do you expect them to be doing?
And I'm like, I don't know.
george santos
They're just mooing to one another.
tim pool
Yeah, yelling.
I don't know, running around.
ian crossland
Parked out front of a farm like a couple months ago.
I was driving by the cows.
george santos
Well, because they're not at risk of death in India.
unidentified
That's why.
carter banks
They just walk the roads.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
One cow was like, Moo!
Because it was a family of cows and I parked to do my GPS.
The one mama cow started yelling because it was like warning, Hey, there's a guy here looking at me.
david pollack
And I was just like, Thanks, guys.
george santos
And in India, I guess they interact more just because they're not at risk of being killed.
tim pool
We got to get questions.
Brian Major Threat says, Tim, that's what cattle do.
I'm like, I know.
They just stand there.
Guys in the Discord, let's get your questions in now.
Start asking away.
We're going to pull those in for you guys and for everybody else watching.
If you want to get into the hour long bonus pre show on Fridays when we do these pre records, you got to join at timcast.com.
And then you can actually have your questions asked on the show as we bring them up now.
And we'll see what you guys have to say.
And I'm still, we're still waiting.
ian crossland
I had a question to start it up while your father's coming in.
Okay.
If the world is doing the most heinous genetic engineering of humans, AI experiment, would it then be ethical for us to also be doing it?
Well, I mean, let's say the Chinese and the Russians are making super soldiers secretly in laboratory.
phil labonte
I don't think someone else doing something makes it ethical for you to do it.
If it's ethical, then it's ethical for you and for other people to do it.
If it's unethical or it's not ethical, it's not ethical for them to do it.
george santos
Now, the question is because it's unethical to do a lot of things in this country that it's completely fine to do in other countries.
Are you talking from a moral or from a civil standpoint?
phil labonte
So when I say ethical, I mean moral standpoint.
Moral.
unidentified
Okay.
phil labonte
And that doesn't mean that.
That doesn't mean that the U.S. isn't going to do unethical stuff.
tim pool
I got a question.
Is it ethical to create human hybrids of any kind of species?
george santos
No, no, no.
tim pool
Why?
george santos
Because what's the name of that?
Titan.
Did you ever watch that movie Titan that they create?
Why?
You guys don't watch movies.
I've referenced like five movies today.
Damn it.
So there's this movie Titan.
What they're trying to do is get, I think it's Matt Damon, if I'm not mistaken, the actor in the movie.
They're trying to turn humans.
Oh, I've seen this.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's not Matt Damon.
unidentified
It's.
Who is it?
george santos
It's not Matt Damon.
It's one of those.
tim pool
Yeah, the movie was weird.
george santos
It's strange, but they're trying to get them to Titan.
One of the, what, Jupiter moons?
ian crossland
Moons of Jupiter, yeah.
Dude.
tim pool
It's Sam Worthington.
george santos
There you go.
tim pool
And so they turn him into aliens.
george santos
He sees to become humans in that concept.
tim pool
But they become retarded, is the problem.
george santos
Well, not retarded.
No, they don't communicate anymore.
david pollack
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
They become retarded and start killing people for no reason.
george santos
Like more aggressive, yeah.
tim pool
But that's retardation.
Like if you lose higher cognitive function and you can't communicate and you're just an animal running around and killing people, like you're retarded.
george santos
Well, he doesn't.
The female version doesn't.
unidentified
He does too.
george santos
No, no, he doesn't kill anybody.
unidentified
She does.
george santos
She kills her husband.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And then he cheats on his wife, and they lose higher cognitive function when they do it.
It's true.
But again, why is it unethical?
So let's say there's that.
But that's saying that specific thing is unethical.
Let me put it this way If there was an alien race that lived twice as long and was super strong and was compatible with humans, let's say a Kryptonian, if they could hybridize a human Kryptonian, is it wrong to do?
george santos
Bunch of Superman, is that what you're saying?
tim pool
I'd say a bunch, but like, would one be a problem?
A kid is born, and then as he starts getting older, he starts realizing he can fly and he's really strong.
Is that a problem?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Brightburn was freaky.
You see that movie?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Brightburn is a horror movie based off Superman where the kid, the spaceship crashes, the parents find the kid, the kid they start raising as one of their own, and once he starts getting powers, he's basically like, I can do whatever I want.
You can't tell him what to do.
He starts killing people as laser eyes.
unidentified
Sort of.
ian crossland
I don't know if the act of hybridization is ethical.
It's like, why are you doing it?
Because if your whole civilization is going to get wiped out and you do a secret gene splicing program to survive and then your species survives.
carter banks
You need human Z's to fight the other ones.
ian crossland
Yeah, people that keep fighting through trees.
tim pool
The Anunnaki conspiracy theory is that we are effectively human Z's.
The Anunnaki theory is that aliens hybridized a species from themselves and earth creatures to be able to do labor.
But the first hybrids.
Were intelligent and understood the nature of reality.
That is their connection with God and things like that.
And so they rebelled, saying, This makes no sense.
So the aliens created another dumber species based off of primates.
george santos
Democrats.
tim pool
Us.
We are specialists that can do any job, but we can't understand the nature of reality.
We only have faith.
So that's the.
I got to read some questions though.
We got Monster Mangler.
He says, Question for the crew.
If this is all a simulation and animals like cows and pigs are farmable mobs, doesn't that just make vegetarians vegans silly for ignoring all the free XP wandering around?
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
tim pool
Also, can I get a shout out for my daughter Fiona?
Today is her birthday.
She's always singing together again and divine around the house.
Happy birthday, Fiona.
ian crossland
Those animals can be player characters too.
They just don't have much abilities.
tim pool
You can't be a.
ian crossland
They have a good birthday.
Oh, happy birthday, dude.
They have like an attack ability.
george santos
They have to be his daughter.
ian crossland
Charge.
george santos
Can you give him the kids' name again, please?
ian crossland
Yeah, who's the kid?
unidentified
Fiona.
george santos
Fiona, happy birthday.
ian crossland
Thank you for watching and listening.
tim pool
Bro, you can't play a cow's, dude.
The only character choice.
You can't play a cow's, dude.
The only character choice.
ian crossland
You can't play a cow's.
You can't play a cow in a game every once in a while.
You only have like attack is number one.
Or charge ahead is number two.
tim pool
That's a game where you get turned into a kind of polymorph or something.
Yeah, you can't.
ian crossland
They just don't have abilities like we have.
We have like regenerate, run, sprint.
I mean, some animals can.
tim pool
Oh, they don't have.
They don't have the ability to communicate effectively as if there's a player.
ian crossland
Yeah, they don't have that.
tim pool
So they're not playable characters.
Before life starts, you got to choose your difficulty, you got to choose like region.
And like, if you pick Uganda, Sudan, you're like hard.
ian crossland
But I think you can go in and out of controlling different people and different characters.
tim pool
That was a South Park joke.
When it said choose your difficulty, it was a slider between black and white.
Everybody got mad, but it was funny.
ian crossland
It is funny.
They kind of, I think the spirits bounce in and around and go in and out of people and choose to control them during certain times and then they'll leave if they become possession.
That's called possession.
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And lots of them will try and control you at the same time and stuff like that.
tim pool
People of weak will and low mental fortitude.
george santos
I mean, on the subject of possession, though, what's up with all this demonic possession theory that they're all claiming allegations don't?
tim pool
I mean, because they're putting a religious view on the alien story.
ian crossland
They're starting to figure out.
tim pool
They believe that aliens.
Are demons, and that the Bible was describing these interdimensional entities when it says demons.
carter banks
And they're Ephelim.
ian crossland
They really are.
tim pool
And then Ephelim are the hybrids.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Spirit creatures that are doing that, but they're just figuring it out through their language, which is religion.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Taylor Rand's ex wife says, Shout out Olivia Dasovic, crushing it as the new Discord leader.
That's right.
For everybody who doesn't know, we brought on Olivia formally to help work with the Discord community to make sure that everyone's needs are met.
Community engagement, essentially, running the show.
ian crossland
She's great.
tim pool
She's been fantastic.
ian crossland
She was here earlier today.
tim pool
Very good.
george santos
Is she the one that I was interacting with earlier?
ian crossland
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe.
ian crossland
Probably, yeah.
tim pool
Cinosky says, Tim, George said he believes in aliens when asked, while at the same time saying he was briefed.
I do question if he has been briefed on anything that has shifted his belief one way or another.
Has any brief you've ever received changed your.
george santos
Yes.
unidentified
Oh.
george santos
That's a great question.
unidentified
That's a good one.
Can you tell?
george santos
You don't know what my beliefs are before.
ian crossland
Can you tell if the briefings are lying to you ever?
george santos
They can't lie to 500 members of Congress.
Well, I mean, Congress.
That would be a very interesting.
tim pool
They lied about NSA spying.
george santos
No, no, I understand, but.
Weapons.
It's a little different.
So there's different levels of briefings and clearances, but this is a very broad, general briefing that.
Why would you bring in every single member of Congress and the Senate and give them a briefing if you're going to lie to them?
Just don't do anything at all.
ian crossland
To control the narrative?
george santos
Don't do anything at all.
No, no, no.
There's no narrative to control.
david pollack
So, what was the thing you shifted?
unidentified
What was the thing?
Huh?
david pollack
What was the thing you changed your mind about?
george santos
No, I just answered the question.
Nobody asked me about anything else.
david pollack
Yeah, but I'm curious to know what was the thing you had.
george santos
That's not your right.
tim pool
We got a question from.
george santos
Subscribe and do a super chat, and then I'll answer it.
tim pool
We got a question from John Kristen.
He says, Whatever happened to the culture war?
An episode with Phil as hosting interviewing Raymond Ibrahim, a scholar and author on Islamic history, would be interesting.
Phil, check out his videos, Two Swords of Satan.
And Islamic practice of lying to Kiyah.
So the Culture War Channel is still there.
I've been doing the daily 4 pms, which are like what I was doing before back in the day with the original channel.
We are doing a Culture War debate with the Harmon Brothers on the 24th.
That's what we're scheduling.
The issue is that it got to the point where we felt we were forcing debates and conversations that we're like, we have to get a show.
And so we're like, who are we going to have on the show?
And then instead of saying what's going on in the world that we're trying to discuss in greater detail, We were like, let's just get this guy and this guy.
And then it was kind of just, eh.
So we said, we'll do them when we have the reason to do them, which is why the Animal Farm movie debate is going to happen.
And we are going to be scheduling the live events coming up soon and have those Culture War shows as well.
Let's see what we got going on.
Stork says Oracle just fired 30% of their Texas staff, which is over 1,000 people, and hired 2,690 H 1Bs in Texas, more than doubling the Texas staff.
Black Snape Debate 00:02:13
tim pool
AI is just actually Indian.
F this ish.
Indeed, remember that company that said it was an AI coding program, but it turned out it was just 700 Indians?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's true.
david pollack
That's what the response is.
tim pool
They were like, we use.
george santos
So essentially, they were like the human computer versions of NASA back.
And the first mission to the boat.
tim pool
It was a company where it was like, sign up and we'll code your app for you.
It was actually just a bunch of Indian guys.
ian crossland
Is that what it was?
Just like 50 people in a room?
tim pool
It was like 700 Indian guys in a room in India coding apps for people.
george santos
And you're saying the original NASCAR computer was a bunch of dudes in a room doing a bunch of dudes, predominantly women and a lot of women of color, actually, at the time, as they referenced them.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Black women.
They weren't giving them publicity at the time?
david pollack
Is that what you're saying?
george santos
They just, they did a recent, didn't they do a whole movie on this subject, on this genre?
Yeah.
Damn it, what was it?
Hidden Figures.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
george santos
It's actually well done.
tim pool
Have you seen these interviews, though, where like there's a Times Square video where some guy asked this black woman about reparations, and the black woman goes, Well, black people invented everything, white people just stole it.
Like, we invented the light bulb and we invented spaceships, and like, these are the stuff that they're putting out.
george santos
So, there's a theory, not spaceships, that would be a cool test, but there's a theory that it was black women in NASA who calculated the actual correct math.
And again, This is depicted and credited in.
tim pool
And Snape is black too.
unidentified
Huh?
tim pool
And Snape is black too.
george santos
No, of course not.
I'm just saying that there is a credible.
tim pool
Snape is black.
george santos
Now in HBO.
But my point I'm saying is there is credit to black women having contributed to this.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
tim pool
I just want to stress it's looking like the Harry Potter show might bomb.
george santos
I don't think it's actually going to happen anymore at this point.
unidentified
What?
george santos
Well, it's HBO.
unidentified
Yeah.
george santos
Right?
HBO is getting purchased.
unidentified
Oh, interesting.
george santos
Do you know, I actually.
unidentified
No, wait, wait.
tim pool
Is that part of the Ellison thing or no?
george santos
Yeah, HBO is a Warner Bros. company.
Yeah, what are you talking about?
unidentified
It is?
george santos
Wow.
This is a monumental.
tim pool
Bro, if the Allisons, after the acquisition, reshoot it with a new Snape like Adam Driver, it will be like parades, dude.
Harry Potter Bomb 00:06:16
tim pool
People will be like, woo!
george santos
And it's crazy because even J.K. Rowling, she's not saying anything outwardly about it, but it's like, why is there a need to appease something?
tim pool
And Hermione's mixed race, mud blood.
unidentified
Which is.
george santos
I guess that's what they're calling mixed people now, mudblood.
tim pool
Well, I was saying that forever.
george santos
It's an on the nose offense, in my opinion.
It's kind of offensive, low key.
It's like, oh, you're a mudblood.
You're biracial.
tim pool
Well, I've been saying that forever since, because that was the allegory she was making.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But now that they have a mixed race Hermione, Draco calling her a mudblood means a lot different thing.
ian crossland
Did you guys see the AI?
Are you the boy who dripped?
tim pool
And they're like, oh, yeah, the Balenciaga thing?
It is amazing.
ian crossland
That's what I want to watch.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
ian crossland
He's just in from Atlanta.
I gotta say, Griffin dripping.
unidentified
No, Check it out.
tim pool
Ian, you are lost.
ian crossland
Hundreds of thousands of likes on social media right now.
tim pool
Ian, you are lost.
I'm gonna show you some.
The best AI thing.
It's the last thing we're gonna do before we wrap up because we gotta go, but you gotta see this.
unidentified
Bro.
Like that neighbor.
tim pool
Watch this.
Watch this.
unidentified
Previously on, I never did like that neighbor.
Hey guys!
Is it cool if I send this to TMZ?
I'm a survivor!
This summer, a new business is born.
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You know what every one of them has?
Tell me.
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When do we start?
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And besides, the women love it.
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And what about him?
Ah, fuck it, still counts.
DoorDash, bitch!
Are you Dan the man?
Yes, and who the fuck are you?
Bullies come in all shapes and sizes.
What do you two bitches want?
He's evil, I tell you.
I'm not sure how you plan to get rid of him.
Careful, he's really dangerous.
Hey, boys.
Can I help you?
Has anyone ever told you that you look exactly like Channing fucking Tatum?
Who's that?
You don't know who you look exactly like?
Bro, it's like we're really looking at Channing fucking Tatum.
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This summer, peace and quiet are negotiable.
I'm not Channing Tatum.
tim pool
Dude, that's funny.
AI is just getting crazier and crazier and crazier.
george santos
This is crazy that this is AI.
Did you see what I just sent you on there?
tim pool
Where did you send it?
george santos
I texted it.
It's here.
Oh, I'll show you the link.
It's freaking repulsive.
tim pool
We're going to wind things down, everybody.
That's about wrapping it up.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
We got clips coming throughout the weekend.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
George, you want to shout anything out?
george santos
Yes, absolutely.
Tim, thank you for having me.
To everybody watching, thank you for always tolerating me and always.
Remember to follow George Santos on Twitter, Instagram, and everywhere else you like to get commentary.
And I'm going to shamelessly plug myself.
My podcast, Doing Time with George Santos, uploads every week twice, and you should go check it out because it is hysterical.
See you next time.
david pollack
That's so great.
Well, I'm not as fun as George, but if you want to get real news, the facts, and then hear my opinion, you can watch David Pollack primetime on the One America News Network.
And that's really available.
In a lot of places, but you can always download the OAN Live app and watch it anytime on demand.
That's the best way.
That's how I watch it.
But yeah, check it out.
There's no shortage of opinions in the marketplace.
So what I do is I lead facts first and then tell you what you think.
And then I want to know what you think.
So, David Pollack, primetime, One American News Network, 7 p.m. Eastern at David Pollack USA on all social media platforms.
P O L L A C K at David Pollack USA.
Thanks, Tim.
This has been so much fun.
tim pool
Oh, thanks for coming.
david pollack
I've been a fan for a long time and now I'm sitting at this table in this room.
unidentified
So cool.
david pollack
I can't believe you brought George.
You ruined the experience for me.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
david pollack
But other than that, I've had a fantastic time.
Thank you so much for having me.
unidentified
This is an honor.
Thanks for coming, man.
ian crossland
At Ian Crossland, you find me at Ian Crossland on the internet and go to graphene.movie, sign up for the newsletter.
That's coming out pretty soon.
I've watched some, well, I've seen that we have a few edits in the pipe.
That's all I got for now.
Catch you later.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
If you want to read about some of the stuff that I've been writing, it's on my Patreon.
It's patreon.com slash Phil That Remains.
We're going on tour.
We're starting in, all that remains is going on tour, that is.
We're starting in Albany on April 29th.
We go until the end of May.
You can get tickets at allthitremainsonline.com.
If you want to check out the band's music, it's Apple Music, Amazon Music Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, or Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
unidentified
Carter.
carter banks
Dude, this has been one of my favorite episodes so far.
I have to say, I think we've covered pretty much everything.
So, David and George, thank you for coming back out and really pumped for this episode.
You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and at Carter Banks Official everywhere else.
Follow our record label at Trash House Records on YouTube.
And goodbye, Tim.
tim pool
Pay no attention to the man sitting in the back either.
carter banks
This is Brando.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We got clips throughout the weekend.
We're back, of course, on Monday, and we'll see y'all then.
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