Democrat RESIGNS From Congress After METOO Accusations, SWALWELL IS OUT | Timcast IRL
Eric Swalwell resigns from Congress amid sexual misconduct allegations, sparking debates on political maneuvering and the Me Too movement's integrity. Guests discuss Trump's AI-generated "Jesus" image, labeling him the Antichrist while debating its intent. The conversation shifts to fears of an "AI layoff trap," where tech CEOs withhold advanced capabilities to prevent economic collapse from mass unemployment. Further segments explore conspiracy theories linking AI Agenda 2030 to technocratic control and demonic influences, alongside concerns over Islam's expansion and the decline of Christian morality in America. Ultimately, the episode weaves political scandals with apocalyptic technological and spiritual fears, suggesting a looming societal transformation driven by artificial intelligence and cultural decay. [Automatically generated summary]
We knew that he was dropping out of the gubernatorial race in California because, well, he's been accused of raping a woman more than once, as well as several other women who accused him of impropriety, sending nasty photos, and apparently more women are about to come out.
But the speculation was that the Democratic Party did not want to give up any seats in Congress because Republicans barely have a majority as it is, but he's resigning.
I suppose he's only resigning because Tony Gonzalez, a Republican, is also resigning at the same time.
So, two members of Congress resigning over weird sex scandals.
But the funny thing about Swalwell is, man, he sure can dish it.
When it came to Kavanaugh, he called for Kavanaugh to bring out all of the accusers to speak up and have their stories heard.
The accusations against Kavanaugh were absolutely psychotic.
And I'm going to go ahead and say this, guys.
I know, I know, many people are going to get upset about this, but.
I'm actually, I got to defend Swalwell at least a little bit.
I certainly think it looks like he's having an affair on his wife or whatever, and there's videos of him with some other woman making out with her and stuff like that.
But I have to question these allegations because it seems like this is an attempt to knock him out of the California race and Congress because Democrats were on track to lose the state.
The way the primary in California works, it's an open primary, so the top two candidates advance to the general.
This means that the two Republicans who are the leading candidates were likely going to be the only two choices.
Democrats had been begging.
One of these other Democrats to drop out, but none of them would until now.
Until a woman claims that over the period of a couple of years, she chose to get drunk, go hang out with him in his hotel room, and then, oh no, whoops, it happened again.
So we'll talk about that story.
I mean, look, what do I know?
We'll see what the evidence is, but I have a feeling it's never going to go to criminal prosecution.
This is just a political maneuver to stab the man in the back.
And then, holy crap, Trump blockaded the Strait of Hormuz?
I thought that he didn't want that shut down, but now he shut it down.
And he posted a meme of himself as Jesus, and everyone got real mad.
And then he deleted it and said he thought he was a doctor, but the image was edited to have a demon floating behind him.
And so everybody's just freaking out about that.
We're going to talk about that and a lot more, my friends.
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Swalwell says he plans to resign from Congress amid sexual misconduct allegations.
I have questions, CNN.
Actually, you know what?
I can't do this.
Can I just fix this?
Okay, here's what you do you click inspect, and then we're going to go here and we're going to pull this up and we're going to get rid of sexual misconduct allegations, right?
Swalwell says he plans to resign from Congress amid rape allegations.
This is a story about Eric Swalwell.
They call him Fartwell because he farted on MSNBC.
He's accused of rape.
Now, he's dropped out of the race.
The important thing to understand California's got an open primary system for the governor's race.
The top two candidates, party doesn't matter, advance in November, and it's a race between those two people.
Well, the top two candidates were Republicans.
The Democratic Party had been begging these individuals to drop out at least one person.
So that the votes from that one person would move to another candidate, thus giving California the option for a Democrat or Republican, but none of them would.
Until now, after Swalwell was accused of rape.
And this is surprising.
We didn't think he was going to drop out of Congress, resign from Congress, because Democrats were, I mean, it's very thin, Republican control in Congress.
But yeah, he's dropping out, which is absolutely insane.
Now I'm going to say this.
I want to show you guys the story for those that didn't see it.
And I'm going to have to go all anti woke and defend Eric Swalwell.
And I mean it because here's the allegation.
They say a former staffer alleges he pressed himself on her sexually while she worked for him.
And had sex with her twice while she was too intoxicated to consent.
The woman told the paper that Swalwell began pursuing her soon after she was hired at 21 to work in his office in East Bay.
Swalwell, who was married and has three children, sent photos of his junk to the young staffer on Snapchat and pursued her sexually.
In September of 2019, the woman said she woke up naked in Swalwell's hotel room after a dinner out with friends and felt the physical effects of intercourse.
She later left his office but continued to work in politics.
In April of 24, the accuser attended an awards ceremony in New York where Swalwell was being honored.
After meeting up with him, she got drinks with him and ended up intoxicated in his hotel room where he forcibly had sex with her, she claims.
The Chronicle corroborated her claims with medical records and by speaking with friends she had confided in and a former boyfriend.
In response, Swalwell's attorney sent a cease and desist letter to the counsel for the accuser and raised the possibility of a defamation suit.
I gotta admit, I actually feel bad for Swalwell.
Now, I think he's a scumbag.
I think, live by the sword, Eric.
This is what you get.
You came after Kavanaugh.
You know that they were lying about Kavanaugh, but let's just break this down and be honest, okay?
This is a woman who claims she went to dinner with him and had drinks, then went to his hotel room.
She woke up naked in his hotel room.
Yeah, sounds like she went to his hotel room with him and then said, Oh, but I was too intoxicated to consent.
Told no one, said nothing.
Five years later, she goes to meet up with Swalwell again, has drinks with him, goes to his hotel room, and then once again wakes up naked and says, Oh, this time you forced me.
Now, they claim they corroborated medical records.
Apparently, my understanding, I could be wrong, is that she got a pregnancy test shortly after.
and an STD test.
That's what they're claiming.
She did not report a rape.
She didn't say that Swalwell raped her twice.
And I have questions about the mental fact, the cognitive faculties of a woman who claims to have gotten raped and then literally goes back to get drunk with him and goes to his hotel room.
And one thing that I never could quite square with the Me Too movement amid lots of things, but one of the things I could never quite square is this kind of thing where if a woman gets drunk and goes to a man's hotel room, that means she didn't consent.
Did you ever see the ad that was placed somewhere in the UK where there was a man and a woman and it was they both go out, they both get drunk, she couldn't consent.
He's a rapist.
And it's like, they both got drunk.
Why is it that he was the one that was the rapist?
Well, it doesn't fall in line with the current feminist worldview that the left is beholden to, but certainly it falls in line with the like Camille Paglia feminist worldview.
I, I certainly think that Swalwell was probably like macking on a bunch of women.
He's not a good dude.
He's cheating on his wife or whatever.
But I, you know, as much as it's hard, I got to put it this way there's like, there's scales here, right?
And normally, if there's any other guy who knew a woman and they were, you know, friends with benefits or whatever, hooking up, and then she betrayed him, it's like instantly you feel bad for this guy who's being lied about and falsely accused by someone you thought was his friend.
But then when you weigh it out with he's having an affair on his wife and he's a dirtbag in Congress who falsely accused people himself, It's kind of like it's hard to feel bad for him.
But here's what I will say I was thinking this is what I thought when I first saw this, which is this is why Democrats vote in lockstep.
I honestly, to God, believe that there's so many people on the Democrat side of the aisle where they just know that if they do anything that's going to offend the party or bring the party out of power, which is what Swalwell was basically his position in the California governor's primary was threatening.
The Democrat Party as a whole, that they just have enough skeletons in the closet for all of their congressional members that they'll just nuke you.
And I think that this is like one of the reasons why Republicans don't always get in lockstep.
And the Democrats, you never see them voting out of lockstep for the last 20 years.
Well, and I think that also, I do think that there's more people on the right side of the aisle, and I'm a conservative and Republican, so obviously I think this, but I think that there's more people on our side of the aisle who are genuinely moral than people who are on the left side of the aisle because of the worldview which you hold.
So I think there's some truth to that, but that doesn't mean that, like, I'm not, oh, every person who's a Congressman is a Republican is a good guy.
There used to be a phrase that was thrown around DC the Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, right?
Democrats are all about, well, this person is what I want to believe in, et cetera, whereas Republicans fall in line.
I think that those days are gone.
I think it's clear that Republicans don't fall in line the way that they used to.
And I think you see that with the fighting that's going on with the MAGA base between the MAGA base and the neocons or some decent GOP or whatever.
But I do think that, look, I mean, I'm not in any way upset that this is happening to Swalwell.
I do think anytime a woman has a lot of years between when something happened and when it comes out, it always happens when it's particularly convenient or easy to do.
He said on Axie Post, I am deeply sorry to my family, staff, and constituents for mistakes in judgment I've made in my past.
I will fight the serious false allegation made against me.
However, I must take responsibility and ownership for the mistakes I did make.
I am aware of efforts to bring an immediate expulsion vote against me and other members.
Expelling anyone in Congress without due process within days of an allegation being made is wrong.
But it's also wrong for my constituents to have me distracted from my duties.
Therefore, I plan to resign my seat in Congress.
I will work with my staff in the coming days to ensure they are able, in my absence, to serve the needs of the good people of the 14th Congressional District.
I just got to say it again removing all of the politics.
If you have a story of a guy and he likes to work with a young woman, she's into him, they have drinks, they hook up.
A few years later, she meets back up with him.
Presumably, now she's in her late 20s, they have drinks, they're probably having a good time.
Imagine the laughs they were sharing as they were at the bar, hanging out.
He's asking her how it's been.
She hasn't worked for him for a couple of years.
And then they go back to his place and, you know, get it on.
And then later she knifes him in the back for political power.
That's the Democratic Party.
You will be stabbed in the back by demons the moment they can make money off of you.
You know, one of the girls was texting him, too, like in between.
I think it was the same girl that was like, hey, you're going to make such a great governor of California, right?
Like, texting him different stuff that had gotten leaked in one of the previous dumps.
Because there's multiple women involved in these different things.
And one of them was like, don't worry, honey, you're going to be great as governor of California.
So you got to think, like, it's not a non consensual, like, Forcible rape situation, at least in some of these things.
And so it just comes back to like, okay, it would be good for us as a country.
And I know I'm a pastor, but I'm just saying it would be great for us as a country if we would recover some of like a more biblical sexual ethic of like, how about you sleep with your wife?
We rein some of this stuff in.
And I know that that's going to get me a lot of hate, but I'll just say you can't get accused of a lot of these things if you're actually pursuing something that's virtuous outside of your own life.
Except there's a video of him making out with a woman.
And the conspiracy theory is that in order to be high ranking political in the Democratic Party, they intentionally make you do things on film they can use against you.
But with this video of Swalwell, the conspiracy theory is when you come into the private club and they say, like, do you want to be a member of Congress?
Do you want to be a superdelegate?
Do you want to be in power?
Okay, we're going to film you.
That way, if you ever cross us, we'll destroy you.
Like, you'd rather just turn around and say, I like if you're in that position, you'd think someone smart would say, I'm actually going to tell this story on the news at 8 a.m. tomorrow and screw you over before you have any leverage over me.
You'd think that at some point somebody would say something.
Celebrity who grows up and is beloved by everybody when he finds out that there is a tape someone's got of him doing something improper, causing him to have a panic attack.
I would say everybody, actually, believe it or not, I would say everybody has dealt with and actively to a degree deals with what we in Christianity would call demonic forces, which means that possession and oppression are different, right?
Not everyone's possessed by a demon, and you don't need to look for a demon under every rock that you kick, but there's an active kingdom of darkness.
That's what, you know, the Bible says that clearly in Ephesians.
It says, Our struggles are not against flesh and blood, against the rulers' authorities, against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms, meaning there's a world that we can't see.
And I think that the world, that the country is starting to wake up to this.
We've had this really secular.
America for 60 years or so that just taught us that atheistic, secular morality, that's what's been taught in our public school systems.
There is no God.
Atheism is the only way.
And I think people are starting to realize hey, there's something more to this world that I can't see.
And I think that a lot of the stuff that you see makes a lot more sense when you start to view the world through a spiritual lens and say, well, what if a demon were involved in this?
What would they do?
And if you ask yourself that question about like, I would say 75, 80%, I think Libby, we've talked about this before, of the political stories, you would say, Oh, yeah, there's something spiritual going on here that I can't see necessarily in the physical, but that makes sense if you ask yourself the question like, what would somebody who's acting either beholden to or influenced by a worldview or by the whispers of demons do?
Trump deletes social media posts depicting him as Jesus, but refuses to apologize amid tension with Pope.
Well, here's the image.
Gunther Eagleman says President Trump just posted this powerful painting on Truth Social.
Trump stands radiant in a red robe, laying hands on a sick man while surrounded by American symbols the flag, eagles, fighter jets, the Statue of Liberty, and everyday heroes.
Well, here's the image, and that's clearly Trump as Jesus healing a sick man with divine light.
So, well, he's a spin master, a spinster, or something else.
So, I was watching Fox today.
And in one of their quick news alerts, it was like Donald Trump is being criticized for an image depicting him wearing a white robe and healing a sick man.
Trump has made a statement.
And I'm like, whoa, That is not at all what's going on.
Trump is being criticized because I'm assuming.
Someone took a picture of Jesus and said, Make it Donald Trump in the AI, and this is what it made.
And it's just, you know, very weird.
So immediately, this is the reaction that we got.
British morning show guest declares Trump is the Antichrist.
Check this out.
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But I'm just going to say this, right?
I am a person that was raised a Catholic.
I did all the sacraments, I read the book, you know.
I lost my faith, but I still find that deeply, deeply offensive.
I mean, so I will just say this, and then we can have this discussion.
Several years ago, we had a conversation on.
The Culture Award podcast with some eschatologists, amateur eschatologists on social media, where this is 2023.
They said on the show if Donald Trump suffers any kind of injury to the right side of his head or face, and he nearly dying or has some kind of injury to his right arm, he is the Antichrist.
And at the time, we're like, I mean, come on.
And then Trump took a bullet to the side of the head, suffering an injury that seemingly was a mortal wound where he falls down and people don't know if he's dead, but then he rises up, raising his fist, blood dripping down.
Seemingly healed or surviving, some say a false resurrection.
And right now, he's got this growing blotch on his arm that is spreading, and he's been covering it up with makeup.
And now, what's happening is people are saying he's got the injury to the right side of his face, and he has the withering right arm.
Now, with these images of him as the Messiah and that woman in the White House, in the Oval Office, who said, You have a lot in common with another man.
A bullet to the right side of his head that many people at the moment thought he died when he got shot, when there's a shot rang out and he grabs it and the blood's on his hand and then he goes down.
I remember when that happened and seeing the video.
No one had any idea what was going on.
And then he stands up with his fist raised and yells, fight, fight, fight.
And this was a seemingly mortal wound that did not stop him.
And then he rises up, but he's also got the withered hand.
So, of course, I got to say, like, having a world leader who hits at least, like, even just two of the criteria is worrying.
I'm not saying Trump is the Antichrist, but I can see why people are starting to freak out.
And, you know, Clint Russell, a friend of the show, said in the last year and a half, he went from hesitantly voting for Donald Trump to now believing he might be the Antichrist.
I do find it blasphemous entirely because if I was going to be personally offended, I'd be offended by like tons of stuff all the time, which is stupid.
But this is idolatry.
He's idolizing himself and casting himself in the role of Jesus Christ.
And that is against the rules.
You know, that stupid lady is kind of right about that one.
And then he explained this whole stupid thing about how it was a doctor, which obviously it isn't, about how he supports the Red Cross, which obviously he doesn't.
He cut funding to the Red Cross, you know, and then he went on to say that he actually really is a healer because of, you know, no tax on tips, apparently.
Yeah, he's, I mean, he's obviously trying to make any political cost to him on this because I think it would that actually makes me think a lot more, Libby, that what Tim and I are kind of saying is right, which is that he's like, didn't really want to pick a fight with Christians.
So I definitely don't think that.
So he's like looking at it, he's like, well, I'm not trying to fight this fight.
So he's like, I'll delete it and I'll be like, hey, this isn't what I thought.
I do think, I will say, I don't think Trump's the Antichrist and I don't actually think that he thinks he's Jesus Christ.
And I think that there's a lot of reasons that you can look at more serious statements that he's made over the past year or two that.
Talk about how he's open to the faith as a whole.
I don't think that Trump is like a spiritual leader for me personally, so I'm not worried on that front.
Yeah, I mean, I'll say that I will hold the girl who got drunk and had sex with Swalwell in his hotel room fully accountable for her actions, and I will hold Trump fully accountable for his.
So, here's what I would say about all people who are.
Or if you are apart from biblically, if you're apart from Christ in any way, then you're following after something that's not the ideal, which is Christ, or not the truth, which is Christ.
And so, do I know if Trump is a believer?
No, but I think that he's probably curious right now, which I'm hopeful for.
And so I pray for that because I think he's done a good job leading our country.
And so I pray for that.
But am I getting up every day and thinking, like, what does Donald Trump think about my faith?
No, I'm not.
And so when I see something like this, I'm like, all right, I don't love that, but I also didn't vote for him to.
Do that.
I need him.
I would like him to not do this, but I also am not going to like bail on him and say, like, the world is over.
I do think there's a difference between owning a bunch of property in New York and slapping your name on it whenever your management company gets a contract and this.
Well, I will say this about the evangelical voter bloc it is the most reliably conservative voter bloc in the country for the past 50 years, and it continues to be that.
And so pissing off.
The base in this way is not ideal, politically speaking.
You know, the spiritual side, it's not a good political move.
So, well, some of the things you're describing aren't necessarily biblical characteristics of the Antichrist.
When I consider these figures that we talk about when we talk about eschatology, which is the study of the end, you always come back to what does the Bible actually say?
Well, it doesn't say he's necessarily blinded in the right eye.
Some of these things are descriptions of different characters that are often lumped together.
That's another thing that's important to distinguish.
Like a lot of the descriptions of the beast or the false prophets, it's disagreed upon or it's either just lumped in together in the general in mainstream sort of pop culture, what these people are.
What is necessarily true of the Antichrist is that he comes after several other key figures in our eschatology and after several other key events.
The one good thing that Tish James ever did in New York was say that businesses had to accept cash, that they could not force people to use paperless currency.
There's a viral video where a guy orders a sandwich at Jimmy John's and then it starts with them arguing.
And the guy's like, I can't accept cash from you.
I don't have change.
And he was like, That's not my problem.
And the guy's like, You can't have the sandwich.
And he's like, I have money to pay you.
You have to accept it.
He's like, I can't.
And they get into an argument over it.
Like, this is where we're at already.
You are going to have to be networked into the machine with the social credit score.
All of this is coming, and I will tell you this right now.
It's funny how this relates to everything.
The powers that be, the political elites, the tech bros have known for probably 20 years that AI, which they've been building for a long time, is going to destroy the global economy overnight.
And they are intentionally holding it back and trickling it out to try and prevent a dam from bursting.
They want to slowly flood the valleys that people get up and start leaving, all of their worldly possessions left behind and destroyed, but not all at once so you don't get a Luddite revolution 2.0.
The guy Molotov this house, another guy went to a politician's and shot it up.
I think that people underestimate the.
You know, let's do this.
Let's just jump right into it.
We got to get the Strait of Hormuz stuff in here, but I got to pull up this story.
We've got this tweet.
From Evan Luthera.
Researchers just mathematically proved that AI layoffs will destroy the economy, and every CEO already knows it, but none of them can stop.
It's called the AI layoff trap.
Every company replacing workers with AI is also firing its own customers.
Every let-off employee is someone who used to spend money.
When enough people lose their jobs, nobody can afford to buy anything, and the companies that fire everyone go bankrupt, selling products to an economy with no purchasing power.
So, this is an academic research paper.
We got this from, what was it, ARXIV, ARXIV, Cornell University.
Talking about the AI layoff trap.
We've described this very phenomenon on this show.
When I said that AI is going to take everyone's jobs away, there's not going to be any people.
The response I often get is no, no, no, no.
There won't be people to do the jobs, but the companies can replace those lost workers with robots.
Except you can't replace your customers with robots.
This is going to happen.
And every CEO knows this, they have had meetings about it.
The things that I have learned.
Recently, from people in the space, have sent chills down my spine.
I genuinely believe AI is the beast or whatever.
This is a machine.
I'll put it like this I'll give you the gist of it.
Tech bros and CEOs got together and had a meeting, and they all said, Look at what we've built.
And they said, My God, if we release this technology to the public right now, the global economy ceases to exist overnight.
What's going to happen is that mid managers, upper level managers, senior VP level individuals, These are people who make maybe $500,000 a year.
They are out of jobs instantly.
You no longer need the white collar managerial class.
But these people are not stupid.
They are hard workers and slightly above average intelligence.
What will happen if you eliminate low level jobs?
You'll get a bunch of angry poor people who become communists or, say, burn down a warehouse.
What happens if you then nuke all the mid level managers and upper level managers?
You now have an organizing force behind a revolution.
They know this.
They are concerned about it.
So they are slowly releasing this technology.
The dam is going to break.
They're trying to make it a gradual flooding of the zone so that instead of an overnight change that results in massive violence and political revolution, people just slowly lose their livelihoods and become destitute one at a time so that there is not enough of a critical mass so that there will be a physical violent revolution.
I'll give you another example.
One of my favorite stories that I've told a million times eBay in the 90s had a yellow website.
They decided to update the website and make it white.
They changed it overnight and everyone started complaining.
They were flooded with complaints from people saying, I hate the new website, change it back.
The white is awful.
So they did.
Everyone calmed back down.
Then every day from that point on, they would increment one degree, one value from yellow towards white.
One year later, the website was white and no one complained.
The reason I'm telling you why I don't think that is because right now, there's a lot of jobs that AI could replace, but the adoption isn't as fast as some people think.
Because we don't have the full capability of AI being released intentionally because the companies know if they do, they will wipe out too many jobs too fast.
This is why Agenda 2030 was put together by the World Economic Forum because they've been working on this technology since the 70s.
They know exactly what is going to happen.
This research paper on the AI layoff trap.
Is just the public finally recognizing what these people have already known.
I was talking to a handful of people who work in the sector recently who said, behind the scenes, the stuff that we have will blow your mind and is intentionally being held back because the government is concerned, these companies are concerned, they will wipe out the housing market overnight.
They will wipe out the global economy overnight, and that will not be conducive to the end goals of what the technology and progress would be.
If we want a functioning society with like Star Trek level replicators and AI doing everything, Then it has to be tapered out in a way where you slowly flood the zone over time.
People will lose their jobs and lose their livelihoods.
And in the end, the valley will be wiped out, but most people will have slowly moved on.
If the dam breaks right now, if they were to release technology they actually have access to, then everyone's screaming and running.
There's chaos in the streets, refugees everywhere.
We've seen C Dance 2, the Chinese AI for making videos, and we've shown the video trailers, we've played music from AI.
These industries are already gone.
The C Dance 3, according to leaks, they have this technology right now.
In 30 seconds, they can make 17 minute short films with a single prompt.
And they are functional, perfect short films.
That's the report.
Videos have gone viral showing Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fighting over Epstein.
And everyone went, wow, C Dance is now available to the public.
We got this movie trailer where John Cena and Alan Richson are going around fighting neighborhood bullies.
And we're watching that going, holy crap, it looks very real.
That is probably 2% or 3% of the actual capabilities they have.
That they are intentionally not releasing, they could right now say available for purchase, but Hollywood would cease to exist overnight.
Suno 5.5, the AI music generator.
Like we were talking about before the show, I'm like, I don't know how music exists.
I think that right now music exists to us because we have an attachment to cultural elements, the individuals, the experiences that we had in our lives when that music played.
But the next generation is going to grow up surrounded by AI music and they will have no emotional attachment to older bands.
Now, again, these companies have technology like Google Gemini already internally can make full feature films.
There's a kid who got interviewed by Fortune who says he does 100,000 bucks a month or something.
And all he does is he says for two hours a day, he works.
Two hours a day, he's a millionaire.
He goes on some program, clicks search trending YouTube.
He then clicks, here's a topic I think works, generate.
It auto generates a video.
He makes six hour videos on ancient Roman philosophy.
And it's an AI voice speak it.
And it takes him two hours to do, and he's making 100 grand per month.
This is temporary.
But what's going to happen is.
It starts with the big networks.
CNN, Fox, MSNBC, cable TV news.
Technology comes in that allows shows like this to exist.
For a low cost, we can do a high quality production.
We can do a show that these companies spend millions on, and we laugh.
It's cheap for us.
We're in the space.
AI has just further leveled the playing field with everybody.
And now people with little to no talent or work ethic can compete with talented individuals trying to build and produce content.
If these companies released the full capability, Of their video production, I'd be able to go on there and say, load up the top 10 articles and make a full episode of Timcast IRL, and it would render it in 30 seconds.
I hit upload and I'd walk away and be done for the day.
They're intentionally not releasing this technology right now because it's going to, first of all, the technology to manage an insurance company exists easily through these LLMs.
They are not releasing this just yet because they don't want to blow up the economy.
But what about the kid who's one year old today who has no understanding of economics, of culture, and they grow up in a world where these jobs never existed in the first place?
So I think, Tim, if we just assume everything that you said is completely accurate, I think the only question that really comes down to is when we say fast, what does that really look like?
And decisions that are made on behalf of, you know, there's, People at certain companies and governments and stuff that are going to, there's a political part of this that's going to play out too.
And that's anybody's guess how things are going to end up getting rolled out.
Because some company might go and say, hey, you guys aren't going to release your stuff, but we're going to make a billion dollars, hundreds of billion dollars by releasing our stuff.
The idea that there is, so I don't think that this is accurate because I don't think that there is a secret AI.
If there was that technology, China has so thoroughly infiltrated the United States and even a lot of the companies that are making these cutting edge LLMs.
If there was that, I think that China would have already released it or they would be.
They have publicly admitted they're like outside of what I'm discussing, where the what I've heard from people who work in the AI space is that they've the CEOs have already met together and discussed this, and the government has been involved.
That the capabilities of AI as it exists right now is too powerful to be released, it will destroy the economy.
Same thing is true for China.
All of that aside, it is a publicly admitted fact that every one of these companies has a substantially more powerful version of their AI than the other.
That Anthropicus says that they are giving to, I think it's 11 different companies because of the capabilities of it.
I don't think they have one that's more advanced than Meet Those.
I don't think they have a ChatGPT that's more advanced than whatever, F5 is the next one coming.
They're working on it.
And if they did, I don't think that the United, just because the United States and companies that are in the United States would say, say hypothetically, they get together and say, we're not going to release our, our, our most cutting edge model because it'll, it'll damage the economy too much.
China doesn't have any of those same compunctions.
China continuously releases their, these advanced models that are, that are, um, that are open source.
So they don't even hide the code.
They're just like, they give them away for free.
So if those technologies did exist, I think China would be, you know, would at least be releasing Models that are as advanced as Mythos, because right now, one of the things that China deals with is the fact that they don't get the high end, the fastest, the best chips, right?
There's the United States has an ITAR between, or something.
I think it's ITAR, but Taiwan doesn't send them their most advanced chips.
So if there was a model so advanced that wasn't being.
And the point is, it would be exponentially faster if not for the political machinations.
Behind the scenes to reduce the speed at which this happens, they don't want to blow up the global economy.
So, you are going, again, I'm going to say this.
For those that don't believe me, SUNO.com, you can go in and type in any kind of song you want and have a studio level Hollywood music, LA production song done.
You can go to ChatGPT and say, write lyrics about a song where Trump is the greatest president.
Take those lyrics.
Actually, don't even do this.
Suno can do all of it.
When we look at the video generation stuff, it's crazy.
Like C Dance 2 is mind blowing.
These videos that are already coming out.
With rumors of what Sea Dance 3 can do, Hollywood is over.
There's already production studios that are trying to do this.
There's already record labels that are talking about making AI personalities.
OnlyFans is what 17%, I think was the number they said, is AI generated women that men are paying for for sex content.
If I were to, uh, uh, how, like, Phil, how long does it take for your average, uh, like, band and producer from conception to publication to make a, like, professional level song?
Uh, well, I mean, you can write us, and you're, if you're talking about recording and editing and everything, all that stuff, I think the fact, like, we did, we did the Fall of Ideals.
We did it.
We started writing in January and we were finished recording by, so four months, by the end of April.
The point is this releasing technology that can make high level music productions is not particularly disruptive to the economy because the music industry is already relatively disrupted and has been for some time.
The point is this certainly, there are many realistic people who would be like, I'd never be good enough.
And I tell this to commies because when they talk about universal basic income, that's the questions that I ask.
Because what will happen is people will say, well, I may not be good enough, but I have all the time in the world and free money, so why do anything else?
You'll get rid of all of your plumbers and you'll have a whole bunch of guitar players who suck.
The point is this it is difficult to be a high level talented musician, and even people who are really talented sometimes barely make any money.
You'll be playing at a coffee shop for a couple bucks.
It is much, much harder to be successful in music than it is to be a manager at an insurance company.
The technology that these companies have can automate most of these white collar jobs right now, and they are not releasing it intentionally.
The stuff that's being released is because it's the least disruptive to the global economy.
Do you think at some point it's going to get released?
That's really my question.
And so, and I think it gets to the more interesting question of this whole discussion is because really we're all wondering, okay.
If true, which I'm willing to concede every single thing that you say, I actually agree with you about a lot of this, which is that I think a lot of these jobs are going to get outsourced.
What happens to the people?
And I think the communist argument is we just give you money to get you to shut up.
And it's not possible.
That's extremely, extremely detrimental to the human condition.
Even if you did a low UBI of like a hundred bucks a month, how do you afford giving a hundred dollars worth of value to every person in the country?
It's not possible to do.
So, it is possible that there is a future where technology is so advanced that we have customizable liquid robots that do all the grunt work, that do all the farming.
We're not going to be there for some time.
There's a handful of theories.
One, AI will reach the singularity, the point at which it is so powerful it can develop itself faster than a human can.
At that point, it's an exponential growth curve where in a week, it's effectively beyond our comprehension.
It can tell you, you could pick up a rock and say, Tell me where this rock came from, and it'll map the entire earth and show you the exact formation of this rock.
Crazy things like that.
It'll be able to scan your blood and tell you how long you're going to live, what diseases you will get.
That's when we reach the singularity.
The challenge right now is, well, actually, I'll say this.
There are already people who work in the industry who are speculating we have reached artificial superintelligence.
This is somewhat separate to what I'm discussing.
This one's a bit more fantastic.
There are prominent people in the space who have gone on X and said, we have ASI, artificial superintelligence.
It's just being withheld intentionally.
That's a bit more fantastic because that would imply that the government would have anti gravity technology and a whole bunch of really crazy things.
So maybe.
What I'm hearing from industry insiders is just that the basic components of these LLMs would take over the full infrastructure of, like, an insurance company is the best example.
Because insurance companies are purely administrative.
They collect their premiums, they pay out when there's claims.
A vending machine can do it.
But the LLMs are saying, we are intentionally withholding this for now because it would wipe out 20% of the economy overnight.
And it's why land is selling for something like 100x for data centers.
Like this is all literally happening.
There was that story we just talked about in Virginia where a guy sold for like $100 million at like six, seven million an acre in Virginia, where the acreage normally goes for something like 100K.
Whenever we need music for any of the stuff we're doing with skateboarding or whatever, we just go on Suno and we say, We need a skateboard hip hop beat.
Done in two seconds, loaded.
We did our games of skate night and we had like Four or five songs for the various pros when we did intro videos.
Suno, generate, done.
We don't need a music producer to do it anymore.
We don't need to hire anybody.
That job no longer exists.
And that's a pretty difficult job.
Not just to have the talent to write the music, but to have the skill of making a song with the computers, with the keyboards, with the guitars.
Then there is the talent intrinsically of knowing when the song is good or bad.
My joke prediction is that there's going to be an old man sitting on a rock with his grandson on a farm, and they're wearing overalls, and he's got a sheet of wheat in his mouth.
And the little grandson says, Grandpa, what are those?
And he looks up at the gigantic black cubes that are just floating across the sky, forward and backward.
And he goes, Oh, that's the machine.
Yeah, we built that thing a couple hundred years ago and now it just does its thing.
And humans are just basically a small population of little farmer critters roaming around the planet as the AI becomes an interplanetary machine just expanding its tentacles everywhere.
Serving humans and their desires is a meaningless effort after the creation of the artificial super intelligence.
With super intelligence, what will the AI choose to do? Is a question.
And I'm not saying choose in the sense of like it has a soul or anything like that.
I'm saying certainly with all of that computing power and an understanding that is vastly superior to your average humans or even all of human civilization's ability to compute, what will it do with that computing power?
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what you would expect because it's taking upon itself the likeness of its creator, which is what you would expect is that as people create things, it's sort of like, even with works of art, everybody says that the piece of art tells you more about the artist than it does about the actual thing that it's trying to describe.
I think that AI is the same thing, just magnified in this massive scale.
I think that the.
Most interesting thing to me is that we are currently creating something unique, at least unique in modern times.
I actually think there's a, which we were talking about, the Tower of Babel.
Well, I think AI could very likely be the beast, and I'm a pastor and I'm not like a schlub on my eschatology either.
So I think that there's a real likelihood of that because I think there's this story in Genesis, the Tower of Babel, which is one of the most interesting stories of whether or not you're a Bible believing Christian or not, I'll just tell you.
For the Tower of Babel, are at least 4,500 years old.
So, some of the oldest, we're talking about some of the oldest texts in human civilization, even if you're not a Christian, but I am and I believe that this is a story.
And it's basically a story of people who come together in order to create something.
Humanity comes together all as one in order to create something that will make a name for themselves up to the heavens.
That's in Genesis chapter 11.
It says that they were basically trying to build this one big thing that made a great name for themselves that was in their image, in their likeness, so that they could be like God.
I think that the comparisons that we have now between AI and And what humanity experiences at the Tower of Babel, God goes in and he inserts himself because he says, What you're doing will actually end up harming, destroying, and wiping you out more than you could have ever known.
And so God scatters them across the earth because he's saying, Makes their tongues confusing.
He's saying, You guys are going to destroy yourselves if you do this.
I think that we are really on a fine line of whether or not we're creating something in our own image to make our name great that will actually destroy us.
But I don't know if there's enough people who are willing to actually pump the brakes.
To do anything about it.
And I mean, Tim, I'm curious about your thoughts.
Do you think that this intervention that you're talking about is going to last, or do you think it's going to eventually go away and that it's going to be off to the races and this demonically possessed thing is going to end up taking over?
The plan behind the scenes is we will, as soon as possible, release the full capabilities of our AI machines.
They're slowing them down as much as they need to to make sure the global economy doesn't collapse.
If the economy collapses, they can't make the AI.
That's the real issue.
If people stop working and they don't buy products, then who's going to go and do the jobs to build the data centers because there won't be a restaurant to buy from?
The guy who works at the insurance company right now who's making money won't have a job, so he'll stop going to the local diner.
The local diner will get depressed and start falling apart because I don't have enough customer base.
Then the people in the area who would normally do the work, stop showing up and it becomes increasingly harder to build data centers.
They have to curtail the technologies released to the public.
They have to hold it back so they can actually build it.
It'll, like, there's a video where it's like the war in Iran.
How did it begin?
And then Earth, and then it zooms in and shows the maps and like lines and ships going across, all AI generated in 30, 40 minutes.
One or two years from now, you're going to be on Sea Dance 3 and you're going to say, here's a news article.
Or you're not even, you don't even need it.
You're going to say, search the web for all of the news about what's going on with the Iran war and then make a 10 minute breakdown mini doc about it with a compelling, deep British voice.
And it'll, it'll, it'll say, here you go, spit it out.
It'll get uploaded automatically to YouTube where it'll get 50 views.
But they're going to produce 700,000 every day automatically because their AI agent will just keep cranking them out.
Yeah, I think this is why we have to answer for ourselves, really, as a culture.
Every person needs to wrestle with this question, I believe.
But we, as a culture, I think, have to more universally wrestle with the question of what does it really mean to be human, which is a thing that we haven't thought about.
We used to think about these questions a lot.
And in our secularized culture, we just haven't thought about it recently.
Because if to be human has no inherent value, then why does it matter if you get replaced by an AI, right?
From the secular communist worldview, why does it matter?
These people, for a long time, have viewed AI as the next iteration of life evolution.
Not human evolution, life itself.
That you have particles that coalesce, elements become compounds, chemicals, self replicating proteins, single cells, multicellular.
And then you have human life organizing and exploring the rules and laws of physics themselves.
We as humans are, this is the view of the technocrats, will create the next layer of life, which is single cell.
So you have self replicating protein, single cell, multicellular, and then humans, whatever level that is, where we not only replicate ourselves, but we create dynamic systems in the abstract, concepts, ideas that don't even exist anywhere in reality, just patterns to be communicated, information.
The next level is going to be the multicellular organism system.
Which is the AI is a gigantic mechanism controlling all of the little humans as cells.
It was, you know, reversed at Pentecost, but like, This is a problem for humankind because it pulls us further away from anything actually meaningful and fills our brains with trash.
Because what I worry is that nobody actually gets the chance to.
You know, we were talking before about how you were having trouble at the airport and you had to scan the code and the thing and it wouldn't work, whatever.
I've gone into stores and had, like, I've gone into Starbucks and they're like, we're really backed up.
You have to order on the app.
And it's like, I'm standing in front of you.
I've gone into, you know, places to get ice cream, like a Baskin Robbins or whatever.
And they're like, you have to do the drive through.
And I've gone back to that thing.
And I've never went back and I drove by it recently.
Let me say it like this I watched a video on Instagram where a cop was trying to arrest a guy.
Fight in like there's a guy who's being, I think he's being detained.
I don't think he was being arrested, but the guy, so the cop tries to detain him and the guy immediately becomes violent and tries to shove the cop who just fades back, right hooks him, and the guy spins over, falls down, instantly dead.
One right hook killed the guy instantly.
He fell down, the cop cuffs him, and then he realizes the guy's gone.
Now, I don't want to be, I don't know, like too extreme in how I explain this, but The attack on Sav when the guy shoves her as hard as he could, that has a potential to kill.
Yeah, for sure.
There's a bunch of stories of people getting shoved and falling down and hitting their head on the curb and they die.
But there are older guys that go out with Trump flags and Trump shirts on.
One shove, and this guy falls down and hits his head.
And then we are going to, like, my point is, although I don't expect a shove like that to typically kill someone, we are already at the point where there is the probability of death at these events.
Now, don't get me wrong, I understand we've had shootings, we've had Kyle Rittenhouse, we've had Andy Noh, but Sav does this all the time.
For her to be, usually what we see with like Sav is they surround her and yell at her, and then other people in the crowd will keep their hands up to stop violence and they'll push her out.
We got an electoral, at least, Maybe an electoral victory out of that.
But we got what we wanted.
And so we're going to run this play every single summer.
I literally, we did this last year in Human Events, you remember?
And I just said, hey, what kind of riot are we going to have this year?
And then, like, a week later, a week later, it was like the anti ICE riots.
And then we covered, I think, three weeks in a row, there was another violent attack from leftists that we had a piece in that we covered every single week because it's part of their playbook.
Because virtue, the only virtue they have is power.
And so if violence works, they will use violence to get power.
But they know they will use your morals against them.
They know that.
Violence is not part of the conservative morality.
And so when you turn around and you're like, hey, stop that, they'll be like, hey, quit being so mean to me.
Why are you so mean?
Because they're using your own virtue against you.
The communists will just get killed by the terrorists.
They always get killed.
They're going to take all of us with them.
But that's the thing that I find so concerning.
And I feel like we are, we do not have, from my view right now, a strong conservative position or alternate position or, you know, just like the other side to take this mess on.
I'm going to just get as conspiratorial as possible and loop this all into, I think this is all part of AI Agenda 2030.
I mean, maybe not.
It's conspiratorial, but I would just put it like this.
The way I often describe these scenarios is what would you do if you were the head of a multinational corporation 10, 15 years ago, when these companies developing rudimentary AI algorithms, machine learning were forecasting what was going to happen?
What would your plan be?
You'd be like, okay, well, communism, you need some kind of new economy because how will you sustain an economy when Who's going to own the means of production?
When it's an artificial intelligence robot producing the food, is there going to be three guys who own all the factories or one guy who owns all the factories?
How do you stop people from burning those factories down?
How do they get access to this economy?
I think the social media expansion of allowing communism and banning individuality, merit, capitalism, et cetera, is connected to these technocrats.
I'll put it like this.
Silicon Valley technocrats are friends with the AI companies and they're all funding each other.
So when they start censoring certain worldviews, it seems like it's connected.
And I think it's related to them being like, we need a cultural revolution to eliminate individuality and meritocracy because we're about to destroy it with technology.
So here's my counter proposition, which is that everything you're saying, I actually.
Tend to agree with, but I don't know if it's so much a one world coordinated conspiracy theory because I think a lot of times those things are hard to hold together.
What I actually think that it is, and I think that you're actually right in everything you're saying, so it's not really a counterproposal, but I view all of this through obviously a spiritual lens.
And we were talking about this when we talked about demons a minute ago.
If you ask yourself the question with a lot of these issues, what would a demon do if they were in charge of this situation?
And it's the exact thing that's happening.
It starts to really have the mask come off a lot of this.
And I look at that and I go, okay, so that makes me have to wonder is there something to the fact that there's a world maybe that I can't see in the physical?
You know, maybe is there something spiritual going on?
And whatever term you want to use for it, but maybe there's a world that's just as real as the one that I live in, in which there's forces that are fighting over territorial control over the earth and over people and over humanity.
And maybe all of that is happening right now.
And if that were the case, what would it look like?
And that's actually one of the things that led me to the most clarity as I was, you know, as I became a Christian.
Led into my faith is I looked around at the world and I said, Yeah, there's some evil things that are going on here.
Maybe there's exactly what the Bible describes, which is a kingdom of darkness, and that there's all these coordinated actors who are acting within it.
And I started to view the world through that lens.
And I will tell you, none of these stories started surprising me because I just looked at what the Bible said and said, Hey, you know, there's this passage in 2 Timothy that says, In the last days, meaning like towards the end, which is kind of the period of time that we're in, at least biblically speaking, I think we're in the last days.
It says, People will be lovers of themselves, money, boastful, proud, abusive.
Disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, all it goes all conceited, all of these things, basically everything that we deal with in our culture that we say, hey, this is the root problem in our culture.
And I think, okay, well, then if that is true, then maybe the spiritual side of this is real.
And how do we combat that?
And my answer to that is always, you need to return to something that is truth that you can ground yourself in.
Because if you can't be grounded in something that's real, then you're going to get blown away by all of these evil things.
Because there are evil things.
What they did to Sab, they could have killed her.
That's evil.
What they did to Charlie, that's evil.
They killed him.
For what he believed.
What they did to those people outside the DC embassy, that's evil.
All of these different things you look at and you go, that's really evil.
And I say, yeah, it is.
And so you have to be grounded in some level of truth.
So I actually really like what you're saying there, Tim, because I think it falls into my framework a little bit.
And that has me like, I was, I was, we were talking about this before the show.
I have witnessed what I can only describe as demonic possession something that seemingly defies what humans or what we are taught about human psychology and behavior.
Everything that I've experienced in hacker culture, social engineering, sales, all the fundraising stuff I've done has been rooted heavily in understanding the human mind and how to manipulate it.
That sounds bad, but I'll explain.
It's like when, uh, When I was a kid, I had a computer my whole life.
And so there were really funny things that my friends would do on AOL Instant Messenger.
They would create a fake screen name called like AIMBOT97361, send a message to one of their friends saying, error, password incorrect.
You will be logged out in five minutes.
Please re enter password now.
And our dumb 13 year old friends would put their passwords into AIM and give their friend the password to screw with them.
And that's my first introduction into what social engineering was.
Understanding the things that you could do that would make a person do something.
So I started hanging out with a bunch of people, and I'm in LA hanging out with hackers.
And I had done nonprofit fundraising, which is basically what do I have to say to a person to make them hand over their credit card and sign up for this form willfully.
Everything that I had been doing was based on for human beings, if this, then that.
And then in the past several years, I have seen things that seem to defy everything I had been successful at and learned as it pertains to the human mind in ways that I can only describe as demonic possession.
A person's personality changed as if they had been taken over.
And I'm not exaggerating when I say, I'll give you an example because I want to keep it private.
I don't want to publicly name someone I think was taken over by a demon.
But I've probably seen 15 to 20 instances.
Let's just put it like this somebody who hates pineapple on pizza, likes watching cartoons and anime, one day can't stand pineapple on pizza and only watches action movies and is also doing something that I would describe as immoral and evil.
Things and betraying people, hurting people, and seeing them and saying, like, literally last week, you were doing the complete opposite of what you're doing now.
A week ago, you were a normal person.
This week, you are committing crimes and being evil.
People who live their lives never doing drugs, having a normal job, one day, all of a sudden, they're doing drugs, hard drugs, hurting people, gambling.
I would describe it as things that were criminal.
And sometimes to me.
And I'm like, I don't understand how this very boring, normal guy is a high level evil right now.
Like, what changed in three days where their behavior, the way they walk, the way they hold themselves has become dramatically different?
And that made me question things.
I was talking to Pasobic, like, what was this, like six, seven months ago?
And I told him, I was like, You know, look, I'm a lapsed Catholic, right?
I grew up going to Mass and everything, and I went to Catholic school.
The story of the resurrection doesn't move me.
It does not convince me of anything.
But when you talk about demons, These are things that I've experienced more recently in my life that defy what I thought I knew about how humans behave.
And I can't explain the frequency by which I'm seeing this escalate, unless maybe we're in the end times and we're seeing an escalation of some kind of activity.
And every faithful tradition of Christianity holds that.
Jesus goes and he casts out demons, his disciples cast out demons.
And as Christians today, we have the authority to cast out demons in the name of Christ.
And that is a thing that I have literally seen, and a thing that I have literally witnessed is people who are living under demonic possession and oppression, who at the name of Jesus are rescued from it, the chains are broken.
I have witnessed that.
That's real.
And so I will tell you yes, demons are real, but not only are they real, but it begs a question if demons are real, what are they?
And is what the Bible says about them perhaps the case?
And if it were the case, what would it look like?
If it were the case that demons were real and this one religion, the Christian religion, seemed to have historically, not just me sitting here telling you, but countless cases of people who were able to go and use the name of Jesus in order to drive them out, would that give credence to the claim that perhaps there is another kingdom, not just a kingdom of darkness, but also a kingdom of light, of which there is a king who has authority?
So the Bible doesn't, the Bible addresses demons, but addresses it.
Probably a little bit less than you think about what they are.
So, the traditional view of the church is largely that demons are fallen angels, meaning that it's the same time there's a rebellion in Genesis chapter 3.
So, Adam and Eve are in the garden and they rebel by sinning against God because they're tempted by the devil and they choose to disobey.
And so, they enter into a broken relationship with God.
Well, there's also a divine rebellion that is in heaven.
And Jesus describes this when he says, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven and a third of the angels fell with him.
This is also described in Revelation.
And so, the traditional view of the church is that what we encounter as demonic spirits.
Really, are fallen angels from heaven.
Now, there's some more complexity to it than that, meaning that in the same way that there are creatures in the world that you and I see that are human and then not human but alive, right?
There's things in like that in the spiritual world too, because if God is a God who's a God of creation, then He's created two worlds in which they're made perfect.
We're the only creature that's made in His image fully, meaning there's spirit creatures, there's also flesh creatures.
No, we're going to go to the super chats and rumble rants.
I'm just saying that.
In the uncensored portion of the show, I want to go in depth on the personal issue here and why I am considering going back to church because Libby and I have been talking about it before the show, less so the global implications.
But I do want to rope in what has me worried.
And I'll just say this when we talk about demons and the things that I've experienced, to your average liberal secular person, they're going to be like, you guys believe in fairy tales, you're stupid.
I wouldn't communicate to them in this way.
I would actually say people have taken drugs and experienced entities.
And what's compelling about it, and the reason why the subject of DMT was so popular, is that they have taken two people, put them in separate rooms, given them both DMT in these research trials, and these people have experienced the same space.
Afterwards, they are independently asked, What did you see?
And they describe the same things, indicating they are seeing something else.
This has resulted in research on extended state DMT, where they give people IV drips.
Now, I don't know what that is or why it is.
There are rational attempts at explaining what it is.
Some say that the reason they experience the same thing is because the DMT's effect on the mind is uniform for the human mind.
So you will see the same things.
But what that never explains is how there are More and more stories.
And this is not random dudes being like, I did drugs and this is what happened.
These are laboratory conditions where they're like, the individuals conveyed information neither of them had been able to share with each other.
Like, and we don't know how.
They have described the same entities.
They're 20 feet apart in different rooms, soundproof.
And they're like, yeah, there was a strange, like, geometric figure that was slightly green.
And they both described seeing the same thing in proximity to each other.
That stuff freaks me out.
And so I wonder if the issue is there are people who are grazing.
Let me put it like this.
I love simulation theory.
The simulation theorists say perhaps we live in a simulation that our universe was constructed for some purpose in which we experience the world and there's rules and, you know, who knows?
And so it's like, so you think a creator made all of this?
Like, well, yeah, but it's an advanced species.
I'm like, Look, any way you want to describe the creator, you can describe the creator.
My response is simulation theorists are asking the first questions that theologians asked 3,000, 2,000 years ago or whatever.
When, you know, even before Christ, there were questions being asked about the nature of reality and whether it was constructed.
And simulation theorists are now thinking they've just discovered the first question to ask.
When you look at it that way, my response to atheists and secular individuals is when you think of demons, There is an immediate internal bias that I think atheists have where they imagine fairy tales, vampires, and werewolves.
The idea of demons can be simply constructed as entity, something beyond our comprehension and understanding that seeks to influence in some ways.
There may be good ones, there may be bad ones.
It may be that Christianity is completely correct about it.
Maybe you believe that, maybe you don't.
My point is when I say demons are real, I believe that there are powers and entities that influence us because I have no way to explain the rapid increase in the frequency of people that I can only describe as being possessed.
And to simplify it, we're going to go to the Rumble Rant and Sweet Jets right now.
I'm just saying, easy way to describe it.
A friend of yours who listens to rock music and wears, you know, rock clothes and flannels one day shows up with a different tone of their voice, a different degree of confidence.
They hate certain kinds of food they loved yesterday.
And you're like, this is not the same person.
This is a different person.
And when I say demonic, there are people that I know that seemingly within a few days became an entirely different person and evil.
And what I mean by that is they do things to hurt others.
They commit crimes.
They do drugs.
They gamble.
Sometimes it's just vices that destroy themselves.
Sometimes they destroy others.
And I have seen this with increasing frequency, and it's freaked me out.
But we'll talk more about it.
I don't want to rant.
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Josh Alger says, in keeping with Tim Cass' tradition, my wife and I welcomed our son Jackson into the world Sunday, April 12th at a quarter past midnight.
That's why they kept trying to put into law in laws about, you know, deadbeat dads and you have to pay your child support and you're going to go to jail.
Let's say I took one of Phil's songs, stripped the guitar out, slowed it down 100, you know, 100, let's just say, let's say I slowed it down five times, snipped a piece out of the middle and reversed it.
Mijaha says, Tim, there is currently a seven year mismatch between AI data centers and how quickly the power grid can be expanded.
The public is going to be a hard sell to allow small nuclear reactors to bypass the grid.
So there's a bunch to talk about here.
First, there is a massive power discrepancy in Northern Virginia.
I forgot the numbers.
We went over this last year when we pulled up the data, but I think it's something like.
I can't remember if it's gigawatts or whatever the power consumption in Northern Virginia is, but there's something like a 250% discrepancy in power consumption, meaning we know how much the human beings who live there are using.
Why is there an extra 250% going somewhere?
And everyone's like, it's because they're sending it to data centers.
This is causing power costs to spike because of consumption being so massive.
One thing that they're doing, and this is what I think Elon's doing with XAI, is the data centers are creating their own power plants.
Not only that, but there's an idea that I hear a lot of people talking about that once a data center is put up, you're talking about like an enormous amount of power, right?
1,500 megawatts or something like that.
Your average town uses like 80 megawatts.
So it's like 5% of what the data center uses.
The data center should just pay for everyone's electricity.
That would ingratiate them with the population.
Your average person, what, $3,000, $4,000 a year for power?
Now, it's not a huge amount of money.
But if they're like, if you tell people, everybody in town, you're going to get free electricity because we're putting a data center down the street and they're going to pay for all your electricity.
It is something I think I heard somebody talk about this at the very beginning of the AI boom.
I heard a couple people talking about this, and just the idea that they're going to continue to take out debt until someday, one day, they'll be profitable.
I mean, the longest one that we've seen has been OpenAI.
They've been the longest standing major company, and they're in debt billions and billions of dollars.
I think the only one that has a chance to be profitable is X because Elon actually knows how to financially maneuver and he's integrated all of his companies vertically so that they can all work together.
And he actually, I mean, this is what he did with SpaceX, right?
He said, everybody else has tried to launch space internet, which Bill Gates had tried to do it, a bunch of people tried to do it.
And he said, but it wasn't profitable.
So I'm going to find a way to make it profitable.
I'm going to launch these satellites.
Elon finds a way to make things make money.
He's the only one that I would bet he's able to make it.
Well, he wants to put a million in at least a million, but yeah, they're not going to be profitable in the next couple years.
Yeah, out of all the people that are trying this kind of stuff, I think Musk is the most likely eventually because of the same reasons that you're saying.
Um, I do think that he's going to be able to solve the problem of putting stuff in space because he's when he builds TerraFab, I think like 80% of the chips that they actually make, they're making with.
The intent of putting them in space.
So they're going to have to be hardened for radiation.
They're going to have to be more durable than the regular ones.
The other ones are going to Optimus.
So, and probably some Teslas.
But it'll take a while because the TeraFab is a massive, massive undertaking.
I'm just saying, like, if I was going to make an investment right now, I'm going to be looking at community based things, things that bring people together.
I'm going to be looking at companies that do manual labor and trade work.
Because the worst possible thing to invest in right now is probably media.
I will just say, as a pastor, a lot of people that come in, a lot of these young people that come in, they're terminally online and they come in and they're like, I need to connect with something real, something that's true.
I mean, it's a real thing.
People are going to really start to seek for other people, you know, because you're 18 years old, you're on your phone 20 hours a day.
So this is when, so Tommy Robbins, I wrote a 10-part series on Islam for our church.
That's actually how I ended up 30 years after he wrote it.
And Tommy Robinson came down to our church, and one of the questions he asked me when he interviewed me is, he asked, Are you afraid of this?
And he's been thrown in jail because of speaking out against Islam and stuff.
And I'm just like, I mean, you know, before we started this, I had never thought about it.
But the reality is, we've had to beef up security at our church because, I mean, for the past eight weeks, we've been preaching on the threat of Islam in the United States, the Red Green Alliance, all this other stuff.
And we have to think about that as a real consideration because these are people that are extremely violent.
It's their theology, it's exactly who they are, it's a reality.
So, my friends, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show and we're going to have a conversation about church, the community values, and things in the world that I think are going on that I find particularly interesting related to this and predictions as well as knowledge and forbidden knowledge.
We'll go into great detail.
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We will see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in a few seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
So all this talk about Trump being the Antichrist and all that stuff, it's interesting.
I don't know if I would agree that Trump is the Antichrist or anything like that, but I feel like recent events, as well as my experience, I talked about to a great deal with demons and stuff like this, people's behaviors, like they became different people overnight.
I've known people that have been weird and have changed.
That stuff happens, but it's like.
Way too many times in the past few years.
So it started to freak me out.
Then, with all of the talk about prophecy, the Messianic era, all of things have started to freak me out a little bit where it just seems like, I'll keep it relatively vague, there are a lot of predictions that are being made or have been made a long time that seem to be coming true, as it were.
But more so, I think the demonic stuff just has me concerned, I suppose.
And I guess the way I look at this with church, outside of all of that stuff I already described, the value of having your family in church.
I remember the value that my family had having my daughter grow up around well mannered, well behaved, honorable, loyal people, I think is incredibly important.
So that's, I guess, kind of how I'm looking at it.
The cultural, communal value is massive.
My wife and I are both lapsed Catholics.
I don't consider myself a Christian, I do believe in God.
I think demons are real, and I think it's worth going back and learning more about the stuff.
And we've talked about it whether or not we should start going back just for our daughter's sake.
Like I grew up in Boston with my dad, who was religious, and his second wife, who raised me Catholic because she was horrified when it turned out I was seven and I hadn't been baptized.
And she was like, okay, we're fixing all of this.
So I was raised Catholic by her.
And then when I moved in, With my mom after like an extremely brutal divorce between my dad and his second wife, I moved in with my mom.
And she and her husband, he's Jewish, but also they're just basically atheists.
And she had been raised Catholic, but she stopped going to church in like, I don't know, the 60s.
So that doesn't really count.
So they were basically atheists.
I ended up going to a Quaker school, which Quaker is like the atheism of Christianity, essentially, you know.
You talk about being moved by the Spirit.
There's like no real, it's sort of like fake Christianity.
But sorry, Quakers, it's just true.
You know, it's true.
But I gave up faith for a really long time because I wasn't going to church with them.
I wasn't going to church with my friends.
I didn't really know any.
There were like a couple Catholics at my school and everyone kind of like joked about it.
But I didn't come back to faith and I felt like this grief about it for decades until I was in my early 30s.
You know, so I'd go here and there because I was craving tradition and meaning.
Yeah, so I was 14 years old, and I started thinking, okay, I want to know what is true.
And I want to know what is true because I want to live my life under the implications of the truth.
I do not want to live my life living in a world where I'm just looking at what's best for me because I don't think that I can even get there without knowing what's true.
I want to know what's true, you know, and now I have these really conflicting.
Sides of my life that are tearing me into two different worlds.
And the question is, okay, so what's true?
So I literally set out to basically do what Lee does in that book and say, okay, what's the answer to this Christianity thing?
And so I really started working on that question in my life.
And I came back to, no, Christianity is explicitly true for many reasons.
Now I read a bunch of stuff that I read The God Delusion, which is a book by Dawkins, right?
No, it's not Dawkins.
Yeah, Richard Dawkins.
Yeah, it is.
Sorry.
And Richard Dawkins' God Delusion.
And it was a really big book for a 14 year old.
So I Got to give myself some credit there, but a bunch of other stuff that's basically why Christianity isn't true.
And I kept coming back to a couple of different things.
And here's what I came back to one, the case that Lee makes throughout his series is almost irrefutable on the evidence.
I suppose, without having read it, I don't have much to comment on that other than from what I learned in Catholic school and what I've known through my life.
I would just conclude the difficulty is a historical event that claims to be miraculous is still as any other historical event to me.
So, you can tell me about Genghis Khan and riding on horseback with arrows.
And I say, okay, you know, but like, so history always deviates to a certain degree.
This one is miraculous.
It still requires some evidence to convince me of this event.
So, this is, I say this even of history.
It's like, yeah, most of the history that we believe is false.
Which would be shocking if Jesus were just some random Jew who led a revolt, as the secular historians would portray him.
But is not shocking if you look at history, like I said, through a spiritual lens and you say, is God working out his truth through all of humanity and trying to reveal it to all mankind so they can be saved by knowledge of the truth?
If that's what's happening, then it makes a lot of sense.
And so there are a lot of questions that go into the historical evidence of it, but the practical evidence of it is, I guess.
I looked at all this historical evidence and I said, Yes, I believe that this is true.
But the more convincing thing to me was one of the things I decided I was going to do throughout this process in my life I was going to open up the Bible and I was going to read a chapter every day.
And I just said, You know, God, I've believed that you're real.
I don't really know what I believe now.
I told you I think that you're real.
If you are real, just show me.
And so I would open up the Bible.
And I mean, this was a terrible time in my life, you know, and not to dunk on him publicly because I don't want to do that.
I love my dad and I wish him the very best.
But he started doing things that were very foreign and not good for a child, you know, in my life.
And I was watching all this and I was going through this period of my life where I'm really wrestling and I'm thinking, what, God, what is, if you're here, just show me, like show up for me.
You know, a lot of people have said this.
And so I just read the Bible, I opened it up and I read a chapter a day for about a year of my life.
And two things convinced me.
One, I read the evidence and I said, this is insurmountable.
The evidence that is for Christianity is so much greater than the evidence against it.
And two, I personally experienced when I was reading God's word that there is a deeper truth there than anything I could find anywhere else in the world.
And I have continued to experience that as true still today.
And the benefits to my life, because I've lived my life, even if I didn't believe it, I've lived my life as if that it's true.
And I've just seen immense benefit because.
I believe that it's the truth that keeps you in line.
I have a wonderful family.
I have kids.
I have four kids, by the way, and we're raising all of them in Christianity because, like Libby said, it.
So, like, one of the twins is going to be a Gnostic.
And I've seen the benefit in my kids because it gives them a worldview by which they can understand all of the complex things that are going on in the world good and evil and why do these different things happen.
And so, there are a lot of benefits to your family.
The community benefit of being in the church, the church is powerful.
Having people that you can turn to that don't want anything from you, they want more for you than from you.
But one thing I discovered eventually about the existentialists is that there is no existentialism without Christianity because the basis for existentialism is not an amorality, it's existing within a Christian framework and believing that.
Mankind is responsible for his own actions.
And that doesn't exist if it's just there's nothing.
You know, like now what we see, now we see what happens when there's nothing.
You take the unwanted child and you pass it through Baal or Moloch.
Moloch is this demon god that God literally, by the way, when you look at the Old Testament, you're like, man, God is violent.
It's because he's wiping out civilizations that did stuff like this, where they would take their children that were unwanted from their sexual perversion because they worshiped Asterith and they would take them to Moloch and they would light a fire.
They would put this bronze statue in the middle of the fire and the statue had arms and they would put the baby in the searing hot arms of the fire and sacrifice the children to Moloch.
Seth Gruber is a good friend of mine, and he repeatedly points out that the most common method of abortion is the chemical abortion pill, which literally burns children alive in utero.
And so not only has the act not changed, but the methodology has not even changed.
What is your view on progressive politics and its relationship to female leadership in the church?
Like, you know, around here, we see there's a lot of like Episcopalian female leadership, lesbian pastors spreading pro abortion, pro Moloch worship, things like that.
So, how do you think the female leadership has affected the church?
The church is not meant to be led by females, and there's a reason for that.
God creates a headship that the church is supposed to mirror that's given specifically to men.
And the reason that I say that is that when God creates, he gives roles.
Now, he gives you're equal in value and worth as a man or a woman in the eyes of God.
And so you're not different because you're a man or a woman.
You're not more valuable than your wife, for instance.
But one of the things that God does is he assigns to people different roles.
And so you see this played out in marriage, and you see it played out in the church.
The church and marriage are parallel relationships.
They parallel each other.
You find that in Ephesians 5, which you can read.
And when you see churches that are elevating women to roles which God did not intend for them, you see the destruction of the church which God has created because it's out of order.
And so the church is meant to be orderly, ultimately underneath the leadership of Christ.
And so when you see that all of these people are getting promoted and they're promoting views that are anti biblical and out of order with God's word, then you would say, well, that ceases actually at that.
Point to be a church and it becomes something else.
Or maybe it's a church of some other deity, but it's not Christianity.
And that's why a lot of these denominations that have gone woke, these Episcopalians, the first thing you see is.
Yeah, you're worshiping something that's not Christ.
Because Christ is not, in and of himself, the God of the LGBT mafia and the spirit of the age.
Those are demonic forces.
Those are, and those are.
Forces that are really alive today that want you to worship them as if they were God, but they are not God, but they've usurped the name of God in order to take upon themselves worshipers.
But that's not what Christianity is about.
Christianity is about worshiping the one who came, who was a perfect sacrifice for our sin, died on the cross, was rose from the grave, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father.
That's what Christianity is about.
If your services are about chopping off kids' genitals and affirming transgenderism and worshiping pagan sex religions, sex cults, which is what the LGBT sex cult is, then you're not a church of Jesus Christ.
Yeah, none of the elders that lead our church are, and she's not over the Like she's underneath me, and I'm underneath a senior pastor, and our senior pastor's underneath a board of directors that are other pastors.
And all of that makes up the headship principle that I'm describing.
So she's equipped and empowered to do ministry because obviously there's roles in churches for ministry for women.
That's seen all throughout the New Testament church.
But she doesn't hold the headship of the church, she doesn't hold the ultimate responsibility of leading the church in the direction that it's supposed to go.
But yeah, no, I was talking about AI and everything last Friday, Tim, and I had a little bit of a question from this guy, seeing as how he was born in the same hospital as I was, most likely.
What's your feeling on the encroachment and takeover of Northeast DFW?
So, if I understand your question right, my answer is my view on the Jewish people are that Zionism is really just that the people have a right to the homeland, the place of Israel.
That's really all that it means.
It's not this big scary thing that I think a lot of people make it out to be.
I do believe that historically, theologically, the Bible makes it pretty clear that Jesus is going to return to Israel.
He's going to return actually to Jerusalem, and it gives a very specific account.
He's going to descend on the Mount of Olives, he's going to walk through the East Gate.
There's literally a fault line on the East Wall of Jerusalem, and so you can literally see that.
I believe Christ is going to descend from heaven and he's going to stand on that mountain.
The fault line is going to split.
The gates, which no longer exist, it's a wall, are going to split open.
He's going to walk into the city of Jerusalem.
And so there's something specific and holy.
God is clearly, he's also said that the Jewish people are going to return en masse to Christ in the very last days.
That's one of the things that the Bible says about the end times.
And so you see a lot of people who are out here with the Jew hate, and I just think that has no real basis in Christianity.
You can love and pray for somebody's redemption.
In the same way, I do not hate people who are not Christian.
I pray for their redemption.
That means I can destroy the ideologies that they hold to, which hold them in the kingdom of darkness.
But I pray that every single person who doesn't know Christ turns to Him because why would I not want them to have eternal life?
But I think that the Bible is pretty clear that at a certain point, the nation that we now once again call Israel, which is the historical homeland of the Jews, is going to once again be.
Occupied not only by Jews, but by the by blood Jewish Messiah, who is Jesus Christ, who's going to come again.
Well, the first crusade was launched by Pope Urban II to fight the Muslims who went and took over the holy land of Jerusalem.
Islam actually rapidly expanded, it took over over 50% of the known Christian world in the first hundred years of Islam.
And so, in those first hundred years, Jerusalem was one of the first things it fell about 70 years after Muhammad's death.
And the Christian crusades were launched as a response to all of the violence and persecution by the Muslim hordes that were united under the caliphs in order to destroy the Christian world, which is part of their worldview, which is that one day the world will be covered by the global caliphate or the Ummah, as they call it.
And so the Crusader Cross is a representation that Christianity is not this neutered religion that you hear about by weak, skinny gened people that just sip lattes.
It's actually this deeply masculine religion about sacrifice and laying down your own life.
In order to protect what God has called good and his word and the people that hold to it, which is the story of the First Crusade, you can go look.
There's a really good book.
You can listen to our series and I talk about it there.
And then you can also read great books.
There's a scholar, Raymond Ibrahim, who has a three book series on this called Sword and Scimitar.
It's really great.
You should go read the accounts of men like Duke Godfrey of Bouillon, who literally was the one who led the First Crusade, was the first king of Jerusalem, but he wouldn't take that title.
He didn't like it.
He wanted to be the defender of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre instead.
These are great Christian men who we should have admiration for.
And so I don't know that there's anything to be squared.
I think that you square that.
I think that Jews are going to come to Christ and they're going to recognize Jesus as their Messiah in the last days.
And so I don't know that there's anything to be squared.
I don't need to go fight the Jews.
And the Crusades were never about fighting the Jews, it was always about fighting the Islamic takeover of Christendom.
I was trying to be more clarifying, essentially, in the terminology that was being used and give you a chance to steel man your position on it.
But I've taken up too much of your time.
I apologize.
I did want to say as a suggestion.
Well, you know, but Libby and Tim, especially since you have foundation in the church as well as scripture and some other things, you might want to actually look into Soren Kierkegaard, Works of Love.
It's a much better book, I think, for people who have foundation in Christianity and want to contend with some post liberal thought because the truth is that guy.
Worked out where all of this was going and how to answer a lot of those questions a long time ago.
But for some reason, outside of seminary and Bible churches, he doesn't really get a lot of that.
So, one, our country is in the third phase of what happens all throughout the Bible, which is there's a generation that knows God, they walk with him closely.
Then there's a generation that knows of God, meaning you know who he was.
And then there's a generation that doesn't know God.
And we're really.
On generation three, in terms of that.
And so, the problem that you're describing is we've forgotten who we were, where we came from, the foundations that were laid.
How do we remember them?
And the only answer to that is people who have the faith have to boldly proclaim it.
And that's why, you know, Jesus says that the gates of hell won't stand against the church.
And he's been right.
And by the way, the gates of hell have tried to stand against the church.
All sorts of persecution has become the church.
Nero used to take Christians, dip them in oil, hang them upside down by their ankles in his garden, and then light them on fire for Christ.
To be candles at his dinner parties.
That's the history of the Christian church, which is that we've suffered persecution after persecution.
Nothing, we should not have survived if it wasn't for the hand of God.
But the hand of God has preserved the church because it's his.
And so, how does the church continue to be preserved?
And the answer is bold proclamation of the gospel.
The problem that we have now is a lot of the churches have gotten lukewarm and soft and they've decided not to proclaim these things.
You have to be bold in saying what the truth is.
And then, as a culture, even if you're not.
You know, sure, if you fully believe the Bible yet, we can't be hostile to Christianity.
It is the foundation of the country.
And it's like Tim was saying a second ago one of the biggest arguments for Christianity in itself is that we've lost it and in it we've gotten some pretty demonic stuff in its place.
And so, would we rather return to the place where the founders had us, where we're built upon the truth of God's word and we're appealing to heaven and to divinity and the people, moral and religious people, which is a quote from John Adams?
Is that exactly.
Where we need to return.
Yes, you're right.
How do we get there?
The only answer is that you boldly proclaim the gospel and you invite people back to the foundations, which really is the church.
That's where the, by the way, there's a pretty good movie out right now called Great Awakening.
It's a little bit lower budget, but it tells the story of George Whitefield, who's one of the pastors.
All of the people that went to the revolution went because their pastors told them this is what the Bible says you should do.
Well, that's why we've By the way, so here's a cool thing.
I'm going to D.C. tomorrow with a group of pastors throughout the country who are the bold pastors who are saying the kinds of things that I'm here on the show saying that are going to pray over people who are in the administration and different and try and be that light.
But you're right, there's been a sifting in the church.
A lot of people have gone woke and soft.
And to those people, I would say return to the truth of God's word and stand boldly upon it.
Ephesians 6 is this really awesome chapter in scripture that's the full armor of God.
And it tells you all of the things that you have to do.
In order to walk out the Christian life, do those things and do them not afraid.
I'm not ashamed of the gospel because it's the power of God for salvation to anyone who believes.
I believe that.
If you really believe that, then proclaim that to the people that you know and find a church that boldly proclaims it to you and isn't afraid of being called racist or sexist or xenophobic or whatever hateful slur they want to throw at you that day.
Just preach God's word and don't be afraid.
That's how you get the country to return.
I think a spiritual revival is the only thing that can restore America now, and I pray for it every single day.
You guys would be shocked at the number of people I've seen come to Christ this year.
I mean, the month after Charlie died, our church across three locations runs about 2,500 or 3,000 people a week.
The month after Charlie died, we baptized, not just people who said, Hey, I want to fall after Christ, like literally dunked him in the water, got him up.
It's like soup to nuts, you know, it's like a whole program.
But we've seen a lot of people coming in to do the whole thing, you know, straight through baptism to confirmation to be part of the.
Church and like every Sunday, it's been the father standing up there and being like, you know, and we'd like to welcome all of these people.
The church was already packed, and lately I go and I have to like park on the grass somewhere, you know, there's like because I'm always right on time, I'm never early.
But like, well, hey, listen, I'm not late, which is actually a huge deal because I'm usually late to everything.
Being late is disrespectful, I have to park on the grass.
And it was like, seriously, it is like, and we've gone to the same church that you go to, like, we've gone a couple times, but the Latin Masses, like, I mean, Do you ever do the Sunday at 11?