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April 9, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:14:35
Trump DECLARES WAR On Candace Owens Alex Jones & Others Who Call For His IMPEACHMENT | Timcast IRL

Tim Pool and guests dissect Trump's fracturing of the MAGA movement, alleging he alienates figures like Alex Jones and Candace Owens to shield them from future Democratic subpoenas while potentially paving the way for a 2028 ticket with Tulsi Gabbard or JD Vance. They explore a viral theory that Trump is strategically losing the Iran war to force global dependence on North American resources, leveraging a $39 trillion debt as a weapon against China and Japan. The discussion further covers media consolidation threatening independent creators, animal welfare controversies, and geopolitical tensions in Ireland, concluding that these disparate events signal a chaotic realignment of power and identity. [Automatically generated summary]

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blaire white
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brett dasovic
09:35
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phil labonte
09:03
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tate brown
18:02
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tim pool
01:09:16
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alex jones
infowars 01:03
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mike tyson
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MAGA Fractures and Truth Social 00:03:31
tim pool
Donald Trump put out a scathing truth social post calling Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Alex Jones losers and nutjobs, saying that they've been fighting him for years.
And oh boy, I mean, MAGA is fractured, I guess.
Now, there's a lot of people that say, no, MAGA is not fractured.
These people are not MAGA.
Guys, you can't call Alex Jones not MAGA or Tucker Carlson, maybe, I guess.
But sure, you can say they've been kicked out.
But that's kind of the point.
Libertarians supported Donald Trump, moderates, and even conservatives supported Trump are breaking away.
From Trump, and Trump is casting them out.
So, this is a pretty weird and wild story, and we'll break all of that commentary down.
Of course, there's another weird story.
Melania came out and gave a public statement saying she was not a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, which is a weird thing to just come out and say, I guess.
But, sure.
Following all of this, on the prediction markets, the Democrats are now favored to sweep both the House and the Senate.
So, I wonder if all of this is related.
And I'm going to give you guys the stupidest conspiracy theory.
I said it's the stupidest conspiracy theory.
Stupid one for fun.
But we'll talk about that as well as, well, we got a couple of stupid conspiracy theories for you, but they're always fun.
And we got a big story out of Ireland.
Do you guys see what's going on in Ireland?
Their people are rioting, they're protesting, and the IDF has been deployed.
No, not that IDF, the Irish Defense Forces.
Still the IDF, and I know it gets clicks.
So we're going to talk about that and a whole lot more.
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tim pool
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Blair White.
unidentified
Hey, what's up?
Who are you?
tim pool
What do you do?
blaire white
YouTuber, influencer, podcaster, all the above.
tim pool
All right, easy enough.
Blair, it's great to have you.
I think everyone knows who you are.
blaire white
Episode 1488.
tim pool
Episode 1488 is tonight.
tate brown
Let's go.
tim pool
I guess that's important for Blair.
blaire white
You know, Fuentes couldn't make it.
tim pool
Tate's here.
tate brown
Yeah, I couldn't miss it.
Big episode.
unidentified
Had to be here.
tim pool
This is the most important, they say.
tate brown
I'd say the most important.
So I'm happy to be here.
Good to see everybody.
How's everyone doing?
tim pool
We got Brett hanging out.
brett dasovic
I had no idea it was episode 1488.
Don't lump me in with the rest of them, guys.
tim pool
Why are you guys making this a thing?
Everyone's like, wow, what an episode.
unidentified
Must be good.
brett dasovic
It's going to be great.
I don't know what the number means, right?
tate brown
No, I just, we've made it this far.
It's just a successful show.
unidentified
It's just another funny game.
tim pool
It's like when I mash at it, these jokes to people and they don't know what it means.
It's like, well, it's because you're like a hyper online thing.
Anyway, Carter's pressing the buttons.
unidentified
What's up?
tim pool
Of course, Phil is also here and he is rocking out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
How are we doing today?
tim pool
Let's jump right into the story.
We got this from the Rolling Stone.
Trump lashes out at Nut Jobs, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Megyn Kelly.
The president attacked several prominent right wing commentators who have opposed the war against Iran.
What I do love, just real quick to point it out, the media is not going after these same people.
It's just kind of weird.
Like, it's only if it's Trump, right?
Trump attacks them, and the media doesn't say far right, alt right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
It's because Trump's the bad guy, not the people he's attacking.
Well, here's the post from Truth Social.
It's a doozy of a long one.
Let me read it for you.
I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon.
Because they have one thing in common low IQs.
They're stupid people.
They know it.
Their families know it.
And everyone else knows it, too.
Look at their past.
Look at their record.
They don't have what it takes, and they never did.
They have all been thrown off television, lost their shows, and aren't even invited on TV because nobody cares about them.
They're nut jobs, troublemakers, and will say anything necessary for some free and cheap publicity.
Now they think they can get.
They get some clicks because they have third rate podcasts, but nobody's talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA, who I wouldn't have won the presidential election in a landslide.
MAGA agrees with me and just gave CNN a 100% approval rating of Trump, not handing flailing fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn't even finish college.
He was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he's never been the same.
Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist, or Megyn Kelly, who nastily asked me about the now famous.
Only Rosie O'Donnell question or crazy Candace Owens who accuses the highly respected First Lady of France of being a man when she is not and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit.
Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
That one's like, bro, I nearly fell off my chair when I read that one.
It's not even close.
Or bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things and lost his entire fortune as he should have for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.
These so called pundits are losers and they always will be.
Now fake news, CNN, the failing New York Times and all the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives.
They're not MAGA.
They're losers just trying to latch onto MAGA.
As president, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on world and country affairs.
And after a few times, they go nasty, just like Marjorie Trader Brown.
unidentified
Brown.
Brown.
Tough.
tim pool
But I know what that is supposed to mean.
tate brown
Because he said she didn't earn green, he turns brown.
That's why he said it.
tim pool
But I no longer care about that stuff.
I only care about doing right for our country.
MAGA is about winning in strength in not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons.
MAG is about making America great again.
And these people have no idea how to do that, but I do because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere in the world, President Donald J. Trump.
I just want to highlight real quick this hilarious meme of this like crappy AI Fuentes, Candace Owens and Tucker.
And it's like, beware of false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
And there's like snarling wolves behind them.
Bro, this is wild.
phil labonte
Trump should have been nicer to Alex Jones.
blaire white
Yeah, I don't see Alex being lumped in with the rest as necessarily appropriate.
tim pool
Well, Alex said he called for.
Look, Candace said a bunch of things about Trump for sure, but Alex came out and said he should be removed under the 25th Amendment.
What Alex said there is that Trump is incapable of being president, that he is incapacitated.
That's what the 25th Amendment.
You want to say impeach?
blaire white
Which is dramatic.
phil labonte
Yeah, no, no, no, look.
tim pool
When you say Trump should be impeached, Trump might actually take that like a compliment.
You're basically saying he has taken such severe actions and we oppose him, he must be stopped.
It's almost like saying he's a big baddie.
But when you say he should be 25th Amendmented, you're saying that he's like brain dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
That's why I'm like, I'm not, I mean, okay, you could like nitpick some of the things and like have some criticism say, okay, Alex Jones has been consistent his whole career.
I think that's fair.
These other three definitely have not.
But all this to be said, he's responding to Tim's point.
I mean, they're calling for him to be 25th Amendmented.
So these others are insinuating he's covering for pedophiles and that he's like just completely bought off and corrupted, et cetera, et cetera.
He's going to be harsh in his response.
Of course, he's going to be.
This is how he's always been.
Again, he rolls around in the mud.
And it's like when you bark up the street, you're going to have to go roll around in the mud with him.
That's just the way it is.
brett dasovic
That is what happens, though.
Like every time something happens, he says something out of pocket, and everybody's like, but he has to be because everybody's being mean to him.
He's not necessarily accurate, though, at least in the beginning when he's talking about nobody's watching them or they have no influence.
Obviously, if they didn't have any influence, it wouldn't even be worth addressing, but it is because the people he's talking about, I would agree that a lot of them have changed their views, but they do have influence.
I mean, one of the big reasons that Candace Owens has been such a.
phil labonte
When has Donald Trump worried about accuracy?
unidentified
Well, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he just throws stuff at everybody.
brett dasovic
I mean, maybe that's the problem with everything now.
Nobody cares about accuracy, and people only care about what's.
tim pool
We've been in the post truth society for a decade.
unidentified
I know.
brett dasovic
But the thing, they were talking on the pre show earlier about how it feels like Mag is fractured.
That's because nobody cares about accuracy, they just care about getting clicks going their way.
tim pool
I just had a really good idea to get a bunch of viral clicks and promote the show.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tim pool
So, here's what you do I will preface this by saying none of this is true, and it's for the purpose of this show to make a point.
brett dasovic
For entertainment purposes only.
tim pool
No, no, it's to make a point, a political point about the nature of reality and what the internet does.
Donald Trump personally called me before he made this statement, thanking me for having his back and saying that I was a good friend.
And I said, Mr. President, I will stand with you always, no matter what you do, even if you shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue.
He laughed.
And we had a great time, and he's a good man.
Yeah, that literally never happened.
And I said that because I know what's going to happen because this is what these people do.
They're going, exactly, they're going to cut the clip out and they're going to be like, they're going to claim it's true and it's going to be sensational.
Now, to be fair, that wasn't a particularly sensational clip.
tate brown
Well, because that was the group call.
BB earlier, right?
I think I was listening in on that.
tim pool
No, that one was about what we were getting for dinner because tomorrow we're going to the brewery.
Yeah.
They got great smash burgers.
And, but BB.
tate brown
Oh, sure, I think so.
tim pool
No, but he's not into it.
He eats only, he eats, it's freshly cut grass.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So they bring it from the lawn outside in a big bowl.
He just dips in and.
tate brown
I respect that.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, you got to go hard to eat raw grass.
There's very little nutrients in there.
brett dasovic
Maybe the most impressive part about all this, the amount of stuff he covered in one specific message.
I could never remember that much at one time.
blaire white
It was so much more demented, red hot loud.
Like, it was great reading it, but to hear it out loud is like, whoa.
tate brown
Well, we saw on the behind the scenes clips from the election that he now dictates posts to a staffer.
So imagine being the staffer.
tim pool
Well, you know what?
brett dasovic
There will be an Amazon series about that guy one day.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
But I will say, I don't think my previous false statement went far enough in terms of click farming people who make up fake things.
So, what I'll just respond to this post and just say, after reading this post, I am voting Democrat 100% across the board.
Midterms, you better believe it.
Swalwell, he's my president.
We're done.
Trump, you've crossed the line.
How dare you besmirch the good name of Alex Jones?
From now on, Democrats are right about everything.
brett dasovic
Wasn't there some post recently where Megyn Kelly said even if Trump dropped a nuke, she'd still vote Republican?
tim pool
Yeah, was that from a guy that's a Republican?
blaire white
But then the next day, she was like screaming about how he was threatening to finish her post.
brett dasovic
That's kind of the point.
unidentified
Right?
brett dasovic
Like none of it matters anymore.
What they say on Monday, and it's not just them, this is not just these specific people.
What somebody says on a Monday, they will say something completely different on a Wednesday, depending on if you rise to the point.
blaire white
Alex, I do have to say, Alex is way more consistent than a Megyn Kelly who was like, Yeah.
For trans kids and then not, and it's like, oh, yeah, for real.
Like, she's, I don't think she has principles really.
tim pool
I had this whole thing planned to talk about chimping out in the chimp civil war.
unidentified
I forgot.
tim pool
I was like, yeah, I had this plan.
Chimping out.
Because of Trump's post, I was going to open the show by being like, chimping out in Uganda, like civil war.
A chimp, you know, if you guys don't know the story, there's a chimp civil war in Uganda.
Yeah, it's actual chimp, like big, massive, like cities of chimps.
Just warring with John.
I don't know how big it is.
phil labonte
Joe Rogan is excited.
tim pool
Joe Rogan most affected.
unidentified
There you go.
tate brown
People are trying to say the Chimp Civil War solely over slavery, but it's more complicated than that, actually.
tim pool
Yeah, it was actually about jurisdictional rights between the Chimp factions.
tate brown
Exactly.
tim pool
No, but I was like, we're going to open the show by talking about the Chimp Civil War and then saying something like, no, I'm not talking about Donald Trump.
unidentified
You can still do it for the next segment.
You can just, everyone pause and then you start.
Everyone pause.
tate brown
Open every segment like that.
tim pool
No, but the reason I thought of that and brought it up is because, guys, I know there's a lot of people who watch the show who are big Trump fans.
Look, Trump's base is cooked.
When he says that CNN got 100% approval, listen, if, like, how many people in here like pineapple on pizza?
Let's just try this.
You do?
One?
No?
So there's two people who do.
Here's what I'm gonna do.
Anyone who doesn't get the F out of my room, and I'm gonna run a poll.
100% of people at Tim Cass support pineapple on pizza.
That's the point.
When prominent personalities who were MAGA leave, then you poll everybody and you're like, are you MAGA?
And then all the Alex Jones people are like, no.
They're like, okay, you don't count.
And then the only people left say yes.
The poll question is basically, are you a Trump supporter?
Yes.
My second question is, are you a Trump supporter?
So, that I got to be honest, my conspiracy theory on this one, I always love this fake conspiracy theory that I bring up for everybody who does something like this.
Like I was saying last week that Hassan Piker is actually a super based capitalist, but he knows that there's got to be a Pied Piper that leads the commies to their own destruction because he comes off as so stupid.
You know what I mean?
So, the reality is, Hassan's actually incredibly smart, he's a big Rothbard fan.
And, but, right.
But he goes on his show and he goes, like, the communism is good.
And then everyone follows him.
And he's, you know, every day he turns the stream off, a single tear comes down.
And then he rubs his Rothbard knowing that, like, he's doing what must be done to stop the communists by leading them astray.
So my joke is that Trump is actually casting these people out to save them.
Because after the Democrats sweep the Senate and the House, they're going to start firing off subpoenas and they're going to go after anybody who supports Trump.
So if Tucker stayed, In Trump camp, after the midterms, they're going to launch false investigations.
And this part's the true part.
I genuinely believe the Trump supporting personalities are going to get jammed up like crazy.
Censorship, false investigations.
I mean, look at what Merrick Garland did to me, Benny, Dave, accusing us of taking Russian money.
Completely fabricated story.
And no evidence, never released.
And the people who they claimed did don't exist.
Nobody knows where they are.
My joking conspiracy is that Trump is actually talking with Carlson because Tucker just went to the White House and he says, Look, we're going to lose the midterms.
We can't do anything about it.
I'm going to come at you guys that way.
Afterwards, you can just say, You know, we're not with Trump and they'll leave you alone.
brett dasovic
It's like a Republican version of like running Kamala when they knew she wasn't going to win.
unidentified
Kind of.
brett dasovic
Like they're just like throw her out there because there's no path forward for them, anyways.
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, but they didn't have a choice.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
You know, I mean, Biden was definitely, I mean, either way, obviously they lost, but.
Biden was definitely not going to win.
The American people knew that he was asleep at the wheel, that he was barely functioning.
And so they had to go ahead and do something.
The only person that could continue using the money that they got was Kamala Harris.
If they put anyone else in, they'd be at a massive financial deficit.
So they had to be like, wow, I guess, you know.
But, you know, I thought it was at the end of the day, it was funny because Donald Trump got to beat two women.
brett dasovic
Does this mean that he's going to get like subpoenaed for that whole Candace Owens?
Bridget Macron lawsuit thing.
Does he know?
tim pool
Maybe now, I guess.
Let me pull up some of the comments here on this one.
So we've got this.
I guess in response, Alex Jones is calling once again for Trump to be removed.
Here's a video from Alex.
alex jones
Well, President Trump came out on Truth Social and attacked myself and all the original Mato supporters today.
And I'm just so sad that whatever's happened to him has totally changed the man he once was.
He did so much good.
That said, it followed just a few hours after Melania Trump came out unannounced.
Poorly, Trump didn't know and said she wasn't involved with Epstein and she supports a full investigation by Congress of the Epstein cover up.
Trump says Epstein's a hoax.
So this reminds me of.
Melinda Gates, Melinda French, when she started turning against Bill, also over Epstein.
So Trump's got big problems, folks.
And I am just so concerned about this country and the world.
Trump's being led around by the nose by Netanyahu and by Mark Levin and others.
And it's so sad.
The Iran war is a total disaster, a black eye for America.
They control the Strait of Hormuz.
It is just absolutely incredible what we're seeing and what we're facing.
I supported the old Trump that got so many good things done.
But at the end of the day, I just feel sorry for him and pray that God touch his heart and soul and free him from the demonic influences that he's under.
tim pool
What did he get done?
Tulsi Gabbard's Rise Amidst Chaos 00:15:21
unidentified
Honest question.
tim pool
I have no problem saying there are some things that I like that Trump did, notably the ending DEI and government contracting.
I think getting rid of USAID was great.
But when he's talking about the old Trump did, Trump's first term, he had a bunch of neocons.
And in his second term, he's got a bunch of neocons.
I'm genuinely confused.
Trump.
Brought in Bolton and we all criticized him for it.
And now Trump is hanging out with Levin and Lindsey Graham and everyone's acting like this is new.
blaire white
I think he just in the first term optically was better at, you know, at least coming across as more consistent with his base, more in line with his base.
And I think he just doesn't care at all now.
tate brown
You know, I, uh, I'll just like, I mean, I think even in the first term, I mean, he reoriented the GOP on policy in a lot of ways where like you have to play ball with some of these like institutional figures sometimes in the sense of like they still have a lot of power accumulated, they still occupy.
Top positions.
And I think Trump has moved the football down the field in a lot of ways, just rhetorically.
Like, I know we're saying rhetorically, optically, these things don't matter, but they do matter because you are seeing sort of positions that are now acceptable, like within the GOP that were previously would like get you, like, cast out of the movement entirely.
I mean, the fact that, you know, net negative migration is now the policy of the United States, of the State Department, is like a game changer.
Because, like, literally, even you go back to like Trump won, or even during Biden, just advocating for that would get you, like, called like a white supremacist.
phil labonte
To be flat out honest with you, like, when Trump First came down the elevator and was like, you know, we've got this massive problem with illegals coming in and immigration stuff.
I wasn't even cognizant of a problem with immigration, right?
And I was, I was, even back then, I was fairly politically aware.
But I was like, really?
Is that a big problem in the US?
Like, I didn't, you know, it's 2015 or whatever, and I didn't think that it was.
And obviously, that was 10 years ago and things have changed significantly since.
But like, at the same time, it's like he really did move the Overton window to the point where these were things that we could talk about.
And now, like, I've got, One of the more extreme positions on immigration, at least of anyone around the table.
tim pool
I just got to say, guys, take me back.
Let's go back to 2016.
unidentified
So long.
tim pool
That day when Trump came down the escalator and everything was just so much simpler, simpler times.
We were watching Game of Thrones.
We were all smiling and holding hands, eating ice cream at the Trump ice cream shop in Trump Tower.
tate brown
And it's so true, but it's like, I mean.
tim pool
And you were a little kid.
tate brown
I was a young whippers.
phil labonte
How old were you?
tate brown
I mean, to Phil's point, I mean, the entire ecosystem as it exists now exists because of Trump.
The only reason that maybe not Alex Jones, because again, he's been pretty consistent and he kind of predates Trump in a lot of ways.
But I mean, Tucker, Candace, obviously, even Megan Kelly to a large part, owe their careers not to Trump directly, but to the sort of ecosystem that Trump created.
And so, again, this isn't saying that that's why they should have loyalty to Trump.
I'm not suggesting that.
I'm just saying, like, everything, this entire timeline that we're in is because of one man.
And I think it's worth acknowledging.
tim pool
Let's pull up some of the responses.
Candace responded as well, saying it may be time to put grandpa up in a home.
And everyone's favorite, Ed Krasenstein.
You see here, he says, wow, President Trump just completely turned on Tucker, Candace, Alex, and Kelly.
This is probably his biggest mistake he's ever made.
So much of the MAGA base looks up to these people, and this is going to get them questioning their loyalty to Trump.
If Trump can turn on these people simply because they disagree with him, he can turn on anyone.
Trump is done.
He knows it.
I'm going to go ahead and just say this.
Yeah, I think the Trump era is coming to a close.
I actually think Trump and his campaign and his circle know that Trump as a personality is on his way out.
Guys, it's been 10 years of the Trump era.
Seriously, like in these past 10 years, every single story has just been Donald Trump.
Well, they know that's coming to a close.
And so this is going to change the landscape in very dramatic ways.
Trump is done, but I don't think it necessarily has to do with Trump targeting Tucker or whatever.
I think it has to do with this.
He's got a couple of years left.
The midterms, Democrats are going to sweep.
He's going to get jammed up.
We're not going to see a whole lot done.
He's going to leave.
And what will be left of this movement?
Honestly, I think it's going to be Marco Rubio as the nominee.
I don't think it's going to be JD Vance.
I think they're all aware of what's going on.
And Rubio will probably be the guy.
I also think the Democrats are going to go through some shock flip as well.
Things are going to change there.
And these are the rumors.
The rumors were that there are Beltway rumors that you are going to see the likes of, let me put it like this.
I think this is very, very, very unlikely.
It's just very strange that some leftist publications have been positively writing about Tucker Carlson, saying that he's changed, pointing out that he used to be a big Democrat.
He was on MSNBC, almost like they want Tucker to be a Democrat.
blaire white
They want him back, yeah.
brett dasovic
You mean they want him to run as a Democrat?
tim pool
I don't know about that.
The rumors are that Tulsi Gabbard will be either an independent or Democrat.
Now, my understanding is that sources, we do journalism here, folks.
unidentified
We do.
tim pool
I've reached out to people involved.
Heard these rumors that Tulsi was going to drop out.
She was going to align herself, she was going to resign.
She was going to align herself with Joe Kent.
They were going to be the alternative to the Trump camp, saying that, you know, moderate liberal types, we can unite this country.
And the rumor is that she'd either run as a spoiler against, as an independent spoiler for the Dems, or I'm sorry, against the Dems, basically a spoiler candidate for Democrats, or that she may actually even try to go back to being a Democrat.
But I reached out to several people in the inner circles.
And they say absolutely false, not true, not going to happen.
Trump is a fan of Tulsi.
Tulsi has served honorably.
But Laura Loomer says otherwise.
And Loomer's sources have been pretty good.
She says that Tulsi is going to be out and it may happen.
She's going to run.
I do too.
Tulsi is a moderate.
She's kind of liberal in a lot of ways.
She's moved rightward in a lot of things.
She has always been critical of Iran nuclear weapons and Islamic extremism.
But right now, she is in that MAGA camp.
And as this fracture happens, what's interesting about this?
Is the conspiracy that I told you guys about two weeks ago, which is when Joe Kent left, rumors started circulating that he is not enemies with Trump.
He's actually a friend of Trump.
Trump saved him.
This is a coordinated campaign.
Joe Kent leaving and criticizing the war is intentional.
The rumor then is that Tulsi Gabbard will similarly drop out at some point, resign, team up with Kent, and then there will be a realignment where the MAGA base fractures into a new left and right paradigm.
Where the Democrats are the RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Kent anti interventionists, and the Rubio, JD Vance are the new Republicans.
And that means the corporate Democrat and woke Democrat infrastructure is no longer a component in the national conversation.
brett dasovic
Wait, so like the Gavin Newsom's of the world disappear?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
But they're, they be like, do people genuinely believe that Pete Buttigieg is a contender for the presidency?
Well, he ran in 2020 and he was considered a big deal.
Gavin Newsom will still be around, but he's not going to be a very loud voice.
unidentified
That's why they didn't get it.
tim pool
So, again, I'm going to stress this.
These were the rumors that I was hearing in the Beltway.
And pointing out that people are probably upset with me for having said this because I'm not supposed to be coming out being like, hey, you know, behind the scenes, they're kind of saying that this is a plan.
Surprise, surprise, Trump then formally denounces these personalities, creating an opportunity for this large vocal faction to now support, say, a Tulsi Gabbard.
And that will pull, guess what?
Guess who Candace has the ear of?
Suburban women, moderate suburban women, women love Candace Owens.
What is she harping on about?
TPUSA is bad.
Israel is bad.
And now she's anti Trump.
She's calling for Trump to be impeached.
She is going to capture a ton of female voters, which, which all vote Democrat.
So when Tulsi Gabbard pops up and Tucker, Megan, Candace, and maybe Alex, I don't know if Alex fits in here, but when they start saying Tulsi's the real deal, she's always stood true for what she believed in.
You have the makings of the perfect opportunity for creating a new left right paradigm of the MAGA system.
Breaks into two pieces corporate shill Democrats, crony Democrats like the Hillary Clintons, and the We Wrote Garbage is an afterthought.
And you now have, you know, I was always a big fan of Trump, but he's gone too far with this war.
I'm going to vote for Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr.
Keeping their influence in mainstream politics a new machine state, effectively, a new deep state.
tate brown
I think there's two problems.
The first one is I think Vance is broadly aligned with Tulsi, and even to an extent, Kent.
I mean, they were cordial.
tim pool
That's not a problem.
That's part of it.
tate brown
I'm saying, but then if Vance doesn't break with them, then that could be a problem in the sense of because now how do they possibly survive a Democrat primary?
tim pool
No, bro.
Listen to this.
Again, this is all rumor mill stuff, and maybe it's not true.
I don't know.
I just think this lines up with the rumors that I've been hearing in D.C. That this was going to be, that this is a piece of it.
I'm not saying it's proof of anything.
I may be connecting dots that don't need to be there.
I understand that.
But the rumor was there would be this fracturing intentionally to create these two sides of the coin.
Imagine a presidential debate in 2028 between, say, Tulsi Gabbard and JD Vance.
What is that going to sound like?
Tulsi Gabbard is going to say, JD, you're a good man.
I tremendously respect him.
I served alongside him, and he's always been honorable.
We fundamentally disagree.
On the war effort.
And JD Vance says, Thank you, Tulsi.
I very much appreciate that.
You've always done a great job, but I do think you're wrong.
And the American people are going to have to decide that reshapes American politics back to the Obama Romney era.
It erases the Trump, well, you'd be in jail era.
If it is an RFK Jr. Tulsi versus a Rubio JD Vance or even a Joe Kent, Joe Kent is still praising Trump.
He's been critical, but he said, I still think he's great.
He can do the right thing.
He just needs proper guidance.
Imagine what that presidential campaign looks like when you get rid of the culture war.
tate brown
I agree.
I'm just like, I don't know how those figures survive a Democrat primary.
There's not a chance.
I mean, the Democrat base now is super radicalized.
They're not looking to moderate at all.
tim pool
That's why the rumor was either an independent to spoil the Democrats or actually as a Democrat.
I do think.
Tulsi trying to go back to the Democratic Party might be a long shot, but it might not actually be if Bernie Sanders comes out and says, Tulsi has always served with honor and distinction.
And what happens if Tulsi gets cast out next and fired by Trump?
And she comes out and said, I did everything I could to restrain him, blah, blah, blah.
I was opposed to his policies.
tate brown
I think Bernie's already kind of hitched himself to the Zoran style of politics.
phil labonte
I see in Zoran, yeah.
tate brown
At this point, I mean, look how Krasnstein's talking here.
He's not saying Carlson or whatever, he doesn't say anything about them.
He views them as MAGA figures that are just like in a civil war in the right.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe, but I will say this.
AOC, she's a grifter of grifters.
Notice how her opinion changes on so many issues.
The first thing she did when she won her primary, she turned on the pro Palestine activists.
Not like she's been pro Israel or anything, but they immediately went after her because she was like, oh, you know what?
I don't know enough about the issue.
I'm not going to talk about it.
She's going to say whatever she needs to say to actually win.
I'm not saying that all of the Democrats are going to be removed from politics.
I am saying the Trump campaign and the people that we know want, they have a plan.
With the goal of replacing the Democrat deep state machine with something more acceptable that restores, let's just say, decorum to the political debate.
It doesn't mean they'll be successful.
So, pointing out that maybe they could not be insurgent candidates in the Democratic Party, sure, doesn't mean they're not trying to do it.
And again, I don't know if they actually are.
It could be as simple as Trump really does not like these people.
And Tucker, who was friends with Trump and used to come on the phone, just all of a sudden said, you know, I don't like him.
And Alex Jones.
blaire white
I think that's what it is.
tim pool
That they just don't like him anymore?
blaire white
Yeah, I think it's a pretty genuine post.
I do agree that even if it's not happening as intentionally as your theory with Tulsi and all that, she is one of the few people that I think, if she plays her cards right, could come out of the Trump era and actually rise rather than fall with it.
Because it seems like it's all being burnt down for JD Vance.
I don't see anything positive for JD Vance anymore.
tim pool
I agree.
I think Rubio is going to be the nominee for other Republicans.
unidentified
I think so too.
brett dasovic
Because it feels like you're returning to the party of old, right?
tim pool
And that's the point, right?
brett dasovic
I mean, we feel the same way about the media right now.
Like, with everybody fighting constantly and everybody falling back.
unidentified
It's like 2005 again.
tate brown
You don't need 100% consolidation in a primary.
I mean, JD Vance pulls at like 40, 50%.
So even if Trump loses half of his base, that's still plenty of wiggle room to get out of a primary, to get someone through a primary.
You know, I think all this really depends on is if Trump changes his mind in 28.
I don't think Trump's going to endorse anyone, quite frankly.
I think he's going to let them debate who's the most Trump like.
That's why there could create room for potentially like a Steve Bannon to run because, you know, all of them can petition why they are the true.
Heirs to MAGA.
And then I think someone like Bannon would couch that in terms of like, well, I don't think Trump actually did it correctly.
I'm going to truly bring about.
phil labonte
Do you think that Bannon would have a chance on it?
tate brown
Yeah, there's.
blaire white
After the Epstein's death, I don't think.
tate brown
I don't think he has a chance of winning.
I'm just saying that those are the types of people that will try to jump in in an open primary if Trump doesn't like weigh in and just endorse JDB.
phil labonte
You think you'd win a primary?
tate brown
Bannon?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
No, not a chance in Haiti.
I'm just saying that if Trump doesn't weigh in, then it will, a lot of these guys will smell blood in the water and jump in.
And I think that's actually a possibility that Trump just doesn't endorse anybody.
And then again, I think what's really happening right now, and you're already kind of seeing it.
Within the White House right now, I think you are seeing people, same thing happened to DeSantis, are whispering in Rubio's ear right now, like, hey, dude, 28 could be yours if you play your cards right.
I do think we could be heading for a Vance Rubio showdown.
phil labonte
I think you're probably right about Vance and Rubio.
I think that Rubio, particularly because of his being the Secretary of State and also his history in the Senate, I think there's a lot of people that are mainstream DC that are like, oh, he could bring normality back.
Now, whether or not he would, I don't know, because the way that he's.
You know, taking his job role as Secretary of State, he's very pro most of Trump's policies.
His foreign policy, Rubio doesn't seem to balk at it at all.
Now, granted, he could be just doing the job that his boss is saying to do.
But also, if the stuff that Trump is doing does work out in the long run over the next two years for the American people, I don't see why Rubio would turn around and say, I want a different vision of foreign policy because.
Go ahead.
tim pool
No, just finish.
phil labonte
I don't see Rubio coming in and saying, well, I have a different vision of foreign policy.
This stuff that's been working that has put America into a position where it's a global leader the way that people want it to be, I don't see a change.
tim pool
I want to highlight this from Kalshi.
Tulsi gabbered out as director of national intelligence currently before June at 39%, before July 1st at 45%, before August at 59%.
The before August has spiked.
Now, I don't know if this means someone knows something.
It could be as simple as this.
Guys, there are rumors.
In the DC area.
This is going to happen.
Losing Wars and Crude Oil Reserves 00:16:06
tim pool
Laura Loomer has been right about a lot of things.
You don't have to like her.
A lot of people don't.
But she has been right on a lot of her scoops.
She's come out and she's got a lot of details on a lot of people that she's talked with Trump about.
And she says that here, I'll show you one of her latest posts.
She says, We're now at the stage where this is from March 28th.
If you have standards and ask Tulsi Gabbard to condemn Joe Kent, Roger Stone, who will probably run her 2028 presidential campaign, Is suggesting and threatening that police should be weaponized against journalists in Florida.
You get the point.
Laura Loomer has said she has a scoop that Tulsi Gabbard is going to resign from her position and eventually will run for office.
All I can say is, independent of Laura Loomer, I have heard similar things in DC.
I could see it.
So I don't know if this is true or whatever, but certainly these conversations are happening somewhere.
Because again, Laura Loomer has been right about a lot of her scoops in the Trump administration, and she is a diehard Trump loyalist.
And she has been, it is interesting when she posts about this Tulsi Gabbard stuff.
And at the same time, Polly Market is reacting as though it's true.
Maybe, maybe Loomer says that she's wrong, and then people go on Polly Market thinking she's right.
Maybe that's it.
But I've heard the same thing she did, independent of whatever her reporting was.
blaire white
Tulsi might want to get out before she has to take any more L's being seen as part of what Trump is doing.
I mean, a lot of the things right now are antithetical towards her beliefs, at least prior to going in.
So she might want to cut her losses now.
tim pool
I mean, she campaigned in 2020 specifically on regime change wars.
On, like, we cannot keep doing this.
And now we literally have Trump saying, we did a regime change.
You know, it's not what we were trying to do, but we did.
blaire white
And JD Vance, too.
That's why it's like, I don't know how well it's going to go for him.
phil labonte
I also think that it's very early to talk about whether or not the Iran war, or whatever you want to call it, is going to be a positive or a negative for whoever's coming next because it's still only five weeks or whatever.
We haven't finished the.
Whatever's going on there isn't actually done.
There's still two weeks, there's supposed to be a two week ceasefire, but I've heard there's still a lot of military equipment moving into the area.
So this isn't over until you actually see U.S. troops leaving.
And you see the assets leaving the area, that's when I'll think, okay.
tim pool
I think they're sending more troops in.
I mean, more and more reports of more.
And so.
blaire white
Then that's indicative of like she's going to keep taking elves for staying.
tim pool
Or she's going to break away when the troops go in.
Right.
So I will say this, and it pains me to say this because I want to fight for.
Look, Donald Trump says ceasefire.
Reports are that he was begging Iran for a ceasefire.
It's been very bad for him.
Seriously, there's a bunch of stories about it.
However, I've heard rumors that this is actually just the manipulation.
Trump announces the ceasefire because he's not entering negotiations in good faith.
The rumors that I'm hearing, and again, this is just scuttlebutt.
This is not from any prominent individuals, but with all the reports of more bombers, refueling tankers, troops being deployed, the general idea is Trump's telling them he wants to negotiate while he amasses troops in the region, catching them off guard.
Alleviating some of the stress on the straight and then moving in.
Like, this is not over.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, I guess to Phil's point he made, I think that's why JD Vance is in the toughest position of all because he's going into 28 trying to have this coalition together.
He's close with Tucker, previously close with Tucker, but it's probably changed a little bit.
But at least, like, Tucker's still going to be a Titan going into 28.
He's the only guy out of that list that I think is going to maintain his prominence going into 28.
So JD has to play ball with him, but he's also going to play ball with MAGA.
And the MAGA is going to be the kingmaker going into 28.
I mean, down the road, we'll see.
And there's other factions you got to keep happy.
So, I mean, I think that's why JD Vance isn't specifically the toughest sort of position.
I think in regards to Iran, I mean, that puts Trump really in a tough position because, look, you also have to keep the Israelis happy.
They weren't happy after the ceasefire.
We saw all the talks on social media.
They're all crashing out.
They keep bombing Lebanon.
Iran's not going to agree to any deal while their proxies are getting hammered over there.
It's just not going to happen.
So, the only way we can actually get this across the finish line is if Israel just plays ball.
Tim makes this point all the time.
Israel's.
Approval in the United States is tanking.
I mean, there was a poll that came out the other day that among evangelicals under 35, Israel's like 40% support.
So Israel understands, like, hey, it's now or never.
We got to take out Iran now or it's never going to happen.
So there's no way they're going to let this slip by.
And so that puts Trump in a really, really tough spot.
tim pool
I want to play this video that's been going viral.
This is a, I don't know if it's an AI video or not, but it's based off of a Chinese CCP professor, people are calling him.
I don't know if that's accurate, but a Chinese professor who refers to this as game theory, you know, game theory number 18.
Speculation as to what Trump's plan really is, and I find it interesting, so let's listen.
unidentified
Okay, so what if Trump is not an idiot?
What if losing the war in Iran is exactly the plan?
Let me show you something the media will never tell you.
So everyone is saying Trump is destroying America.
He is fighting an unwinnable war in Iran.
He is threatening to invade with ground troops.
He is pissing off NATO by threatening Greenland.
He is picking fights with Canada, Mexico, Denmark, Colombia.
JP Morgan says the world will run out of oil by mid April.
The global economy is about to collapse.
Trump looks like the worst president in history.
I'm a complete buffoon, right?
But what if that's the whole point?
What if Trump wants to lose the war in Iran?
What if he wants the American empire to collapse?
What if he wants to destroy the global economy?
Then he would be a genius.
Let me explain.
Right now, the world gets 20% of its oil from the Middle East.
Japan gets around 75% from the Middle East.
India gets around 60%.
China gets around 50%.
Europe is also heavily dependent.
But here's the thing oil is not rare.
Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves.
Canada has massive reserves.
The United States has massive reserves.
Trump just took over Venezuela in January.
He's threatening to take over Canada.
You see where this is going.
If Trump closes the Strait of Hormuz by fighting Iran, the Middle East oil stops flowing.
But North America is still pumping.
Suddenly, Europe, China, Japan, South Korea, they all would need American oil.
And not just oil, fertilizer too.
The nitrogen for food production also comes from the Middle East.
If that's cut off, where do they turn?
There are only two options North America and Russia.
Trump is making the entire world dependent on the resources he controls.
Now, here is the genius part who owns the most US debt?
Who's financing America's $39 trillion?
It's Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea, UK, France, Belgium, and Luxembourg.
The same countries that need Middle East oil.
There's been this fear that these countries would stop buying US Treasury bonds, that they would move to gold or Swiss francs, that America's Ponzi scheme would collapse.
But now they need American energy, they need American resources, they can't abandon the dollar.
They are trapped.
Trump just turned America's biggest weakness, its debt, into its greatest weapon.
By starting an unwinnable war in Iran, he's forcing the entire world to depend on North America.
This isn't new.
Putin already proved that this strategy works in Ukraine.
Russia has been fighting for five years.
It's a slow grind, but it has restructured Russia's entire economy around war production, drones, ammunitions, and military manufacturing.
Russia went from importing Iranian drones to making their own and now exporting them to Iran.
Putin's plan was that the world is collapsing anyway, so why not build a fortress, make Russia self sufficient, control the resources, and weather the storm?
America saw this and said, We can do the same.
Greenland for rare earth minerals.
Canada for oil and resources, Venezuela for oil reserves, Mexico for manufacturing, Panama Canal for trade control.
So maybe Trump is not being reckless, he is actually building a self sufficient North American fortress while the rest of the world burns.
So, yes, Trump looks like an idiot.
Yes, he's losing the war in Iran.
Yes, he's destroying the global economy.
But if the goal was to end the American empire and rebuild it for Americans, to make the world dependent on US resources while everyone else collapses, then Trump might go down as the greatest American president in history.
Maybe the New World Order is dead, and maybe we are heading towards a Trump world order.
tim pool
Well, what I will say to all of that is the one thing is true because we have discussed it.
It was like the Strait of Hormuz was not closed before the war started.
It is closed now.
That doesn't hurt the United States as directly as it does China, Japan, and some of the neighboring countries.
The United States produces its own oil.
We've got fracking and natural gas.
One of the things that Trump heavily focused on when he took over from Biden, because Biden was trying to shut it down.
I don't know that I believe that full theory, but I will say it makes a lot more sense than Trump started a war because Israel made him do it and now he's floundering.
I don't believe that people are willing to move massive assets without thinking it through.
It could be Israel made us go to war and we lost.
That certainly is possible.
However, shutting the Strait of Hormuz by forcing Iran to fight doesn't screw us over as much as it screws over our adversaries, including Iran, including China.
And the funny thing is, He took Venezuela before going into Iran.
And everybody believes this because he wants to control their oil, knowing once the Strait of Hormuz is closed, we will need access to a large crude oil supply.
And Venezuela is the biggest.
blaire white
Well, I think the truth could be somewhere in the middle.
And it's not that Israel made the United States go to war, but what do you think about the idea that they just gave us bad intelligence?
There was that meeting recently with Vance and Rubio.
I think Vance was at it.
tim pool
I think that's cope.
The idea that the Five Eyes spy club doesn't have intel in the region and that Israel just tricks them.
We have complained about the NSA and the Five Eyes spying apparatus for over a decade.
So we know the capabilities, the spying capabilities.
I mean, we just found out the CIA can hear a heartbeat from like, what is it, like 100 miles away or some ridiculous number?
unidentified
Very far.
tim pool
They've got this crazy big thing that can hear a heartbeat and they can track you down.
We just learned they have a discombobulator ray that they shocked everything.
All the power went out.
All the weapon system went offline.
And then all of these fighters in Venezuela went, and they fell down.
blaire white
This is just another conspiracy confirmed, by the way.
unidentified
The discombobulator ray?
blaire white
Energy weapons and frequency weapons and all that that a year ago was like only for skip.
tim pool
I hear these liberals say that Donald Trump is a moron.
He's an idiot.
He bankrupted five companies or whatever.
And I'm like, The guy's not stupid.
That's cope.
When they're like, Trump's a moron and Elon Musk is a moron, I'm like, bro, you guys are coping hard.
Now, I will say this: it's highly possible.
Trump's a bumbling buffoon.
Israel tricked Trump with bad intel.
We went to a war we can't win.
Israel is simultaneously losing the war alongside of us, I guess.
So they got us into a war with themselves that they can't win either.
That's all possible.
I just, when I look at the machinations of global elites, I don't think that they're just, they're not first order thinkers.
Like, when you play a game of chess, you're not just thinking about the move you're going to make.
You know what?
I'm not a chess player, but I'm nowhere near as good as anybody.
I'll speak in terms of poker.
And this is something that shocks most poker players.
When I look down at my cards, I am not thinking about what I am doing right now.
I'm thinking about the position the other people are in.
If I do this, what will the next move be by the people around me?
After that, depending on what the next card is, the range of cards that'll come out, what will the next move I make be?
So, to put it simply, as something as simple as a game of cards, I have 10 plans, 10 contingencies in my mind before I make a single move on the board.
The idea that Trump, Israel, the Five Eyes Spy Club, whoever else did not at least plan.
Five steps in advance is cope.
So the people who are like, oh, he got tricked and Israel made him do it.
Well, Israel did pressure us.
Rubio said that, but I do not believe for a second, knowing that they went in and got Maduro out in 45 minutes, that this was all just random chance.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Trump took out Maduro, got their oil, surrounded Cuba, said no one can touch him, strangling them out.
Then the war with Iran starts.
unidentified
They planned this.
tim pool
I don't know what their plan is, but they planned this.
blaire white
Well, the only thing, though, is Venezuela is very different than Iran.
And then also, I would be more willing to be like.
tim pool
What does that mean?
blaire white
It means it's not, they don't have the same capabilities of defending themselves.
tim pool
What does it have to do with what I was saying?
blaire white
That if it was, if he's like a, you know, a 40 chess thing and he can just do what he wants, like.
tim pool
Taking out Maduro was because if you start a war with Iran, they will close the Strait of Hormuz and that's 20% of the world's LNG and crude.
By taking Venezuela, we secured the densest crude production in the world.
unidentified
So.
blaire white
I'm not making a value judgment on if it was good or bad to do.
I'm just saying I would be.
tim pool
I'm saying their defensive capabilities are immaterial.
We took their oil in advance.
There is no way you can separate these two actions.
It was obvious that Donald Trump took Maduro out because he needed their oil because this before.
Right.
So these moves are lined up.
You don't got to call it 4D chess, it's just regular old chess.
unidentified
Right.
blaire white
I guess I would just be more willing to be like, he knows exactly what he's doing and he's thinking in second and third order if there weren't other political miscalculations he's made as of late that have been pretty disastrous for him, like the Epstein stuff.
Like there was no way that was.
Like, that was just him completely messing up.
tim pool
What's the fallout in the Epstein stuff?
Like, there is.
blaire white
I mean, his base is like permanently fractured mostly due to that.
unidentified
It started with.
blaire white
I don't know.
Maybe not mostly because of that, but it started with that.
tim pool
I think the Epstein stuff was certainly bad and it got a lot of libertarians to sour on him.
But I also wonder if at the same time Trump is making moves, his adversaries are making moves against him too.
So the Epstein stuff, one could simply argue, yeah, Trump has plans.
His enemies have plans too.
tate brown
I also think like Trump's approval rate didn't even really move after the Epstein stuff.
unidentified
That's true too.
tate brown
I mean, like, it's like a big.
tim pool
Sorry, his approval rating is better than Obama's and Bush's at the same time in their president.
tate brown
Yeah, because I mean, like, it is true that you need the online right to punch above its weight as far as like influence in the White House, influence in GOP politics, obviously.
But like, I don't think the Epstein stuff really moved the needle that much as far as like Trump's like outcomes.
Iran does because like Iran, I don't think there's, and you know me, I'm like one of the biggest Trump shows working in the business today, I would say.
But the Iran war is just a miscalculation.
I think that the Israelis and the Americans both literally thought.
There's protests happening right now.
They're going to overthrow the regime if we jump in now.
So let's just create a vacuum and then it'll naturally happen.
And it did not happen.
unidentified
No way.
tim pool
No way they believed that.
No way.
tate brown
No, no, no, no.
Trump literally said.
blaire white
I had a post, though.
I remember that.
tate brown
Yeah, and Trump literally said if you start touching protesters, we're going to go in.
tim pool
Indeed.
And check out Tales from an Economic Hitman, where this guy explains how what the U.S. does and has always done is foment protests in foreign countries, film them so they look very dense, and then tell the world, Look at the people crying for freedom.
That way, when they go in, they cite humanitarian crises as a justification for invasion.
I do not believe for two seconds that the U.S. government genuinely believed the Iranian people would rise up against the IRGC.
There are protesters.
That's all real.
They killed protesters.
There's videos of this stuff going down.
But this is just in line with what the U.S. has always done.
We will be greeted as liberators.
I'm not falling for that same line again.
We saw that in Iraq.
No, they need to justify their actions to the American people.
And there are many Americans who will say right now, We had to go in because they were massacring their own people.
tate brown
Right.
What I'm contending is I'm saying that I think the primary objective for the United States and Israel both was regime change from the outset.
So that's what I'm saying.
tim pool
I think neither of them believed that the protests would do anything.
tate brown
I don't think that.
No, I don't think that that was like the primary moving factor.
I'm just saying that was a moment where they're like, there's blood on the water.
Negotiating Deals with China and NATO 00:05:09
tate brown
Now can be the time to move.
tim pool
Agreed.
And they moved on Venezuela to secure the oil.
Let me go back to the poker analogy and just put it like this.
If I look down at two cards, I think about where I am on the table.
So, who's going to come after me?
If I put in some chips, what are the likely responses?
It's not a single plan.
I have, again, 10 contingencies.
If I do this and he does that, I do this.
If I do this, but he does something else, I'll do that instead.
And that's what I think is going on.
There is a plan here in place.
They know what they're doing, and you're watching one step at a time.
I don't know what that plan is.
I'm not saying that this game theory number 18 is true and correct.
I will say, however, when you take a look at the seizure of Venezuela, Taking back our oil assets, followed by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, that is a nuclear bomb going off for the Chinese.
They rely on that energy.
We don't.
So it's not bad for us.
Trump can, if you want to make the argument, it's on purpose.
It may not be that Trump wants to lose, but that he knows the economic damage to China because of the closure of the Strait may be bad for a lot of us, but it's worse for them than anybody else.
So you can take a look at it like you may get knocked down 10 points.
I may get knocked down five points, but you'll be knocked down 10.
So I win.
brett dasovic
So he's doing that knowing that not just his base, but Americans in general will have a hard time wanting this to happen because it is affecting them at the gas pumps right now, even if it's affecting China more.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The idea is that the situation in China is worse than the United States, and the cost for the Chinese Communist Party is going to be tenfold what it is for the U.S.
phil labonte
Well, not only that, I think it's next month or in June, Trump is going to meet with Xi again, and they're going to be talking about trade and stuff.
And I've said this a couple of times.
Last time the U.S. met with China, China came out and said, You are not negotiating from a position of strength.
He said it right to Anthony.
tim pool
That was years ago.
That was with Blinken.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But now, when Trump goes into this situation or goes into this negotiation, it's going to be a totally different animal.
tim pool
I am not going to say that Donald Trump is the smartest man alive, but he's certainly smart enough to be more powerful and wealthier than most people on the planet.
So when these liberals come out and they say, Trump is dumb, he's an idiot, I'm like, You okay?
But he's smarter than you.
tate brown
But I do think, if the goal was, Purely like a pincer movement on China, then they would have wrapped up this Russia war by now.
They would have put a lot of pressure and just got a deal done and then lifted sanctions because right now, most of.
tim pool
Let me address that point, except that Donald Trump has been negotiating with Vladimir Putin to bring him back into the fold.
tate brown
Well, I know he has to because the only way to truly cripple China's energy supply is if you can get the sanctions lifted on Russia because right now China is getting Russian oil at a total discount.
I mean, like 50% discount.
tim pool
And Trump's been negotiating with Putin.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
So I mean, I think if we see that, if that deal actually happens, then yes, this is a successful pincer movement on China because.
Their second biggest import is the Saudis.
That's not going to change.
But the third biggest is Iran.
tim pool
It's not a pincer on China.
It's just collateral damage.
Trump starts a war with Iran.
Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, and Trump's sitting back being like, that's what I wanted them to do.
Trump induced action.
tate brown
And it benefits us.
Again, the Strait of Hormuz closing, it does hurt the global economy, but it does benefit us in the sense because now South Korea is importing American oil in massive numbers toward the Japanese.
It's just, yeah, the question is: is China going to continue to get Russian oil basically on sale?
I mean, because they have pipelines, they have pipelines connecting.
Russian oil refineries to China.
phil labonte
There's not really anything the US can do about that either.
You know, they share a massive border and stuff.
You're going to have shipments of Russian oil into China and stuff.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know how far Trump is willing to go with negotiations with Putin.
But part of me thinks that this is also the situation with NATO.
I think Trump is actually trying to use that to put some pressure on NATO, too.
The whole, you know, get into the strait and help out here.
You know, NATO's been.
Essentially, the United States taking care of all of the global trade and on the season stuff.
tim pool
Maybe the play is to get out of NATO and team up with Russia.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know that I want to team up with Russia, but I think if the U.S. gets out of NATO.
tim pool
I don't know that I want to get out of NATO.
I mean, the point is, is there a possible move Trump is making where NATO's not paying their bills?
He can cut off oil to China if he teams up with Russia and Europe's an afterthought.
phil labonte
I mean, it could be, yeah.
tate brown
I mean, I think if you totally bail on NATO, your allies you're left over with aren't more favorable.
You're basically just Dealing with the Middle East, dealing with the Saudis, dealing with the Israelis.
phil labonte
No, I think that if you bail on NATO, you could still do a deal with Eastern Europe, like Poland and stuff, because those are the ones that are doing, excuse me, those are the countries that are doing their job in NATO.
tate brown
But they're pretty useless geopolitically because you want the Brits for their bases.
You want the French because they do actually have quite a capable military.
The Brits and the French have nuclear weapons.
Those are like, again, I mean, I know we clown on the right broadly, we clown on Western Europe, but they're still somewhat viable allies.
I mean, we need Diego Garcia to operate in Iran, and the fact that the Brits are not playing ball with us is extremely frustrating.
Pole Shifts and Conspiracy Theories 00:14:34
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the Military Times.
Oh, man, this one got everybody in a tizzy.
Automatic registration for U.S. military draft eligible men to begin in December.
Now, the first thing I'm going to say is the immediate response to this is guys.
They're just automating what already happens.
Something's already happened.
When you turn 18, it's a guy.
You've got to sign up for selective service.
You have to.
When you go to get your driver's license, they automatically do it on your form.
Now, they're just going to take your information and put it in the system.
That being said, So, there are people like it's no big deal, it doesn't matter that much.
I still think this is a component in the grand scheme of things.
I don't think they move to automate draft registration for no reason.
I think they want an automated, up to date draft database for a reason.
blaire white
I think the scarier thing recently that happened, this is a clickbait sort of thing, obviously, is that they raised the enlistment age so high to like 42.
tim pool
I don't think these things are accidents and I don't think it's clickbait.
unidentified
I think that.
blaire white
Well, I'm saying this in the sense of it was already, it's just making it automated.
tim pool
I do.
So my point is the people who are like, they're going to draft everybody, it's happening.
Calm down.
The people who are saying, oh, it's no big deal.
They're just automating what already happens.
It's a little bit more than that.
These are grains of sand in a bigger picture.
The enlistment age going to 42 is not an accident.
Automated draft stuff, also not an accident.
It doesn't mean that they're going to draft anybody or need to have massive recruitment because a big war is coming, but it certainly means they are looking at these things and saying, Are we prepared for something?
unidentified
Right.
brett dasovic
Kind of like when Real ID was implemented and they just did it automatically for your license.
phil labonte
It took a while to let everyone have a Real ID from New Hampshire.
tim pool
Like, Real ID is a national ID card.
And then you just go to the DMV and they just got a little star on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
You just bring a second water bill and they'll give you Real ID.
I live at my house, but twice.
And they're like, Okay, you're good.
You can travel wherever you want.
tim pool
Yeah, the idea is that it basically creates a national database.
So it's federalizing the country, which, interestingly enough, as well, I wonder if the anarcho tyranny that we see is intended to federalize the police force.
We've talked about this in the past several years, where you see these Democrat jurisdictions release criminals and you wonder why they're doing it.
Well, once everybody starts complaining that local police won't do their job, they will beg the federal government to create a federal police force to come and stop all the crime.
And then you have the United States as a single block with one government.
brett dasovic
So, you think like local jurisdictions are working with like federal employees to purposely implement this?
tim pool
No, I'm saying that the political agenda of the Democratic Party is in the long run, we want a federal police department.
brett dasovic
I just tend to think it's a whole ton of suicidal empathy and not that much forethought.
tim pool
I would agree with that, except for the fact that when you look at these city hall meetings, there are videos where people come in and they say, Hey, all of you elected officials, why are you doing a bad thing?
You should stop.
And everyone goes, Here, here.
And then all the city council people go, No.
We're going to do it anyway.
And then you're like, huh?
Like, how are local officials just saying no to literally the town that they're in?
It doesn't make sense.
Everyone is saying stop, and they say no.
We see this across the board with every agenda from the machine.
brett dasovic
Those are elected officials to those town halls.
tim pool
Indeed.
And then, in one video, when the people came to the town hall and said, we hereby rescind your positions, you are now a delegate of duty, and we're taking over, they went, nope.
And the cops were like, we're with them.
So if the people who live in the city can't even remove elected officials, There is this de facto authority that exists for these people somehow.
brett dasovic
Funny, that's a Sage Francis lyric from like 20 years ago.
But like, so the idea is like, even if they were to go to election again, not, we're removing you from office now, but that it's just, it screams the impotence of the local voters, right?
Like, yeah, you could have some people come in right now and say that we're going to remove you from office, and the cops just say, we're not going to listen to you.
But they could go to the voting booth and do it, and they never do.
unidentified
Maybe they do.
brett dasovic
And you think that like they're just not giving them the accurate results?
tim pool
Yeah, like the suggestion being.
If the voters keep going to city hall meetings saying, stop doing these things, and they keep doing it and somehow keep getting elected, I question the results of those elections.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, or just the most fervent of the people that go to the town hall meetings don't represent the, I guess, the uneducated voters who show up on voting.
tim pool
Possibly.
But then I would go to the SAVE Act and say, despite being wanted by 80% of people, they won't vote for it, which again, I call into question our elections when you are able to win by procedure and not popularity.
brett dasovic
It was like that post we were talking about yesterday where everything feels like Theater now, and part of that's tied to the fact that you're looking through all of this digitally, and it's just so depressing.
Like the Iran stuff is the most depressing because you now have to look at it every day in detail, and it's us who are the most termly online who are looking at it that way.
There's a guy when we drive down the road, like if you drive down the road back towards the castle, who's got the big Trump poster that says peace through strength.
I was like, So this person does one every week or every month.
tim pool
People oppose AI data centers to the tune of like what, like 78%?
Yeah, it's a massive number.
phil labonte
AI is super unpopular in the news.
tim pool
And someone just shot up a politician's house in Indianapolis because despite the fact the people keep saying stop, the politicians keep saying no to what the people are demanding.
And that's freaky and does not make sense.
It doesn't make sense that we have seen over the past six years, Loudoun County, the parents show up and say, stop putting boys in the girls' bathroom.
And they go, no.
And they're like, what?
And then you get the data center stuff, you get the crime, you get people showing up to City Hall being like, Somebody was murdered because you released, like our DAs are releasing, we gotta change this.
And they go, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So there's clearly no representative government happening.
blaire white
It's easy to see which issues are tied to a larger, more nefarious agenda that isn't even in the hands of the politicians, whether they're elected or not.
You know what I mean?
It's like you can see what is actually changeable through voting and what isn't.
And that's what's so depressing.
So things like letting out criminals who have raped or murdered people, it's like that's just gonna keep happening.
tim pool
Well, there's a video that I saw today of Palmer Lucky.
Talking about how he thinks these UFOs are actually from the past, either because they created some kind of warp bubble where time speeds past you or some kind of breakaway civilization or something.
I don't know if he said breakaway civilization, but his point is there's hundreds of millions of years behind us and it's easier to travel to the future, so that would make more sense.
The conspiracy theory is that there is a breakaway civilization.
Okay, let me start from the beginning because I love this stuff.
So there's a pole shift happening right now.
The North Pole has shifted from Canada towards Siberia.
It's called an excursion, but now it seems to be permanent.
Ben Davidson talks about how the poles are going to shift.
There's going to be a period where, for like two weeks, solar radiation blasts us as the magnetosphere weakens during the pole shift.
And then the axis of the Earth will tilt.
And when it does, water will slosh over everything, creating a great flood.
So the breakaway civilization theory is that Atlantis, a great city with advanced technology from thousands of years ago, gets swept over by this great flood, but prepared for it, survives.
And now there are advanced, super intelligent, technologically advanced humans secretly controlling all government affairs.
unidentified
Perfect.
brett dasovic
That proves it.
I tend to think that it's just that people are lazy and don't go out and vote, but I like your explanation.
tim pool
Well, that's voting has nothing to do with the poll shift happening.
So those are two different things.
So, yeah.
phil labonte
The poll shift, I mean, I'm not all that versed in the poll shift and stuff like that.
tim pool
The poll shift is not a conspiracy theory.
The poll is shifting.
There is a documented from NOAA, NASA, all that excursion of the North Pole moving to such a degree.
phil labonte
Doesn't it always move though?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
It has altered our compasses and navigational instruments.
So, planes, shuttles, all of these things had to adjust their instruments because of this.
Sometimes it moves.
That's why it's called an excursion.
This one appears to be permanent.
It is also a fact that we are, I believe, like 100,000 years overdue for a pole shift.
Now, the official mainstream view is that every half a million years or so, the poles will reverse.
The conspiracy theory, the Adam and Eve theory, is that every 6,500 years it does.
Regardless of what you believe about the Adam and Eve theory, it is scientific fact that we are overdue.
We are beyond the average for a pole shift.
The pole shift is normal.
blaire white
And the CIA website has the Adam and Eve story on their website, so it's important enough for them to archive it.
tim pool
The Adam and Eve story, well, the Adam and Eve theory is not the Bible Adam and Eve.
unidentified
No, no, no.
blaire white
I'm talking about the Adam and Eve theory about the cataclysm.
tim pool
Every 6,000 years of cataclysm, really?
blaire white
Is that on the CIA website?
I'm 90% sure that's on the CIA website.
tim pool
Oh my God.
Wait, what?
blaire white
Told you.
brett dasovic
Imagine being that webmaster whose job it is to put that on there.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And also, the magnetic North Pole is constantly moving.
tim pool
Yes, but this is not an excursion.
That's the point.
An excursion is when it moves and then shifts back.
Apparently, now it has moved over Siberia and is staying there.
blaire white
So maybe this is why it seems like all the politicians don't care anymore.
tim pool
Well, that's.
So here's another fun conspiracy theory.
If it were true that every 6,500 years on average, the poles reverse, the.
Magnetosphere weakens, we get blasted by radiation, water sloshes around as the axis tilts.
If that were true, what would you do as a world leader to prepare for it?
blaire white
To prepare the people or yourself for it?
unidentified
Yourself.
blaire white
Well, then that's just a private bunker and probably a really crazy one.
tim pool
You'd build a bunker.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Like all the millionaires and billionaires and the governments that are building bunkers.
blaire white
Right now, yeah.
tim pool
Wow, that's interesting.
They're doing that.
I mean, again, they could be doing it for any reason.
Mount Weather recently got renovations, Raven Rock and Mount Weather are right by us.
And that's where Congress and high level government officials.
Go during disasters.
Mark Zuckerberg just built a 5,000 square foot emergency bunker under his Hawaiian property.
And there are mountain bunkers in New Zealand.
I think in New Zealand, they got emergency bunkers in New Zealand.
blaire white
Mount Shasta, too.
tim pool
Mount Shasta.
What else do you think you might do if you were thinking that there was going to be a cataclysm where, in your lifetime, so with these theories, after a cataclysm, in your lifetime, you will reemerge to the surface?
What would you do?
blaire white
I mean, I would try to ensure that I could try to ensure that I could seize power like when I came back up.
tim pool
How do you seize power?
What would you need to do it?
blaire white
Probably depends how bad the cataclysm is.
Is everyone wiped out?
tim pool
It floods the earth and destroys most like the solar radiation.
blaire white
You probably don't have to do much.
I mean, anyone who survives is going to be wounded, traumatized.
You could probably tell them anything.
unidentified
Tell who.
tim pool
I mean, if there's nobody around, how do you like?
blaire white
Well, someone's going to survive.
tim pool
So you'll emerge from your bunker.
What do you see?
blaire white
Depends on the cataclysm, but I guess.
unidentified
Great flood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So, what would you see?
blaire white
That's why there's seashells on top of Mount Everest, right?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
But again, like if you were to leave a bunker after a great cataclysm like this, what would you see?
Like, what's the first, what would the world look like?
blaire white
I mean, I don't know, like an ocean.
tim pool
Well, the flood will likely recede, so you're going to look at ravaged lands.
blaire white
Tons of rubble.
Yeah.
tim pool
How do you build?
What do you need to build stuff?
phil labonte
Usually, well, never.
I mean, you'd need materials and you'd need other people to help you build.
unidentified
You'd need energy.
phil labonte
Well, okay, fair enough.
blaire white
So, what I would do is technology that you took under with you that you could use when you come back up.
tim pool
Well, one of the challenges is that all the oil refineries and infrastructure would be destroyed.
blaire white
Right.
tim pool
So, how do you get the energy?
Well, what I would do is I would shift my economy into the production of alternative energy sources, which can be produced in most anywhere.
So, it would be great if in your underground bunker you had wind turbine materials for quick construction.
That way, you could erect wind turbines.
Anywhere, which could then link up to oil infrastructure and kick back up your oil production.
Once you have oil, you can then start running machinery that can start expanding, building, and rapidly take things back over.
That's strange.
It's exactly what they've been doing for the past 20 years telling everybody we have to shift our economy into solar and natural or green energy, despite the fact the climate change narrative seems to not make much sense because Barack Obama's buying beachfront property.
brett dasovic
That was what I was going to say.
The most annoying part of that whole idea was that if a cataclysmic event did happen, some dude who believes in climate change would then blame that.
And I can't let that stand.
tim pool
So, the conspiracy theory there is they tell everybody that climate change is happening.
Don't worry, it's not going to happen for 10 or 20 years, but we need to start producing wind turbines and solar panels and great massive capacity.
And it's like, okay, well, if your oil infrastructure was going to get destroyed in a war, that's one thing you'd want to have in excess.
The other thing I'll add, too, is that according to the Adam and Eve story, the Adam and Eve theory, do you know what part of the world is going to survive the Great Flood based on these predictions?
blaire white
It's some nothing country, right?
tim pool
It's West Virginia.
blaire white
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yes.
blaire white
Oh, go ahead.
tim pool
The Appalachian Mountains are the Rockies, but the Rockies are very far away.
So, when you look at the forecast models of the Adam and Eve theory, this is again, I'm not saying this is true.
The forecast models show that the Appalachian Mountains will be one of the few areas that will not be swept away by the flood in the Northern Hemisphere.
That just so happens to be where they've built their emergency bunkers.
The Mount Weather and Raven Rock are.
Appalachian.
So, maybe.
unidentified
I don't know.
blaire white
So, what are all the other ones for then?
All the other bunkers?
tim pool
Well, if you're a billionaire, you want a bunker.
Plain as they, I mean, right?
Weather cataclysms.
phil labonte
We spent a whole lot of time thinking we might get nuked like four years ago.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
phil labonte
If you're not a billionaire, you want a bunker.
You just can't get one.
tim pool
No, you can now.
There's a company that sells them for like 20 grand.
It's crazy.
Yeah, little bunkers you can put.
But, you know, if there's a great flood, I don't know how long you have to last, right?
So, I'm not saying that is true, but if someone believed it was true, they'd act that way.
Alex Jones made a great point on this.
He said, When he was talking about DMT and the demons and things, he says, I'm not saying any of this is true.
I'm saying these people believe it's true, and that's why they're doing what they do.
So maybe, in which case, the draft doesn't matter.
blaire white
I think it is demons that you get access to with DMT.
I think it is demons.
tim pool
Well, it could be demons and benevolent entities or angels or whatever.
blaire white
That's where I'm at with the UFOs.
tim pool
Here's a question that I had for Alex Jones, and I think it was Mike Cernovich too.
We were talking about this that they offer you a deal.
They're demons.
DMT Trips and Synchronicities 00:03:29
tim pool
You do DMT and you can see beyond the veil, and that's where the demons can communicate with you.
Now, the demons and the angels can communicate with you whenever, but some people just don't really, they're not influenced by it.
But when you take DMT and break through the veil and see through it, you can now see them, and they offer you a deal, information, predictions.
They'll tell you what's going to happen, they'll tell you what to do to be successful.
My question to that is in exchange for what?
blaire white
Well, it depends on the demon, I guess.
Demonology, there's like different things they want, like you to kill a baby.
tim pool
No, but this has never been purported by those.
So when I was talking with like Alex and Mike about it, there was just no, it's just the deal.
They want you to take the deal.
And I'm like, but what is the deal?
Like, what do they get from me?
And it's like, nothing.
They just want you to serve them, to do the things they want you to do.
So I'm like, okay, then what does that do?
Like, what are they trying to do?
Like, what does that result in?
phil labonte
I thought they were after souls.
tim pool
That's comic book stuff.
The DMT, the idea is.
Powerful elites take DMT, communicate with entities who explain to them how to control the world.
blaire white
And I don't think you need DMT necessarily to even do it.
I mean, there's a lot of belief systems that purport to, depending on what ritual you do or whatever, you can be in contact with demons.
tim pool
I want to know what's going on with the extended state DMT stuff.
unidentified
State DMT?
tim pool
Extended state DMT.
blaire white
Oh, where you go under for a really long time?
That's scary to me.
tim pool
They have research going on at universities where they're hooking IVs up to people to put DMT directly into the system for a long period of time.
blaire white
And that's terrifying because, as someone who's done DMT, you do like, it's like a timeless sort of feeling.
You lose track of time.
So, to even extend it even further is like terrifying.
tim pool
Oh, I think there's an update on this.
It's two hours long.
I'm not going to play this video.
But the most fascinating part was about the synchronicities how, after the voyages or any psychedelic trip, the psychonauts experienced extra special synchronicities.
Also, one of them noted that when he scheduled the ayahuasca trip, Special synchronities begin before the trip as the molecule knows you are coming.
Well, I don't know if the molecule does, but what if it's because what you experience is beyond time?
unidentified
Yeah.
blaire white
I mean, even time itself, like the way we perceive it as linear is, according to like quantum physics, that's not even real.
That's just our perception.
tim pool
What if, when the moment you can commit to actually doing DMT, you experience these things because on a time scale, you're moving forward, but the action you took already exists in time.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You're just back here.
And so the ripples are going outward and you're experiencing the effects of what you would do in the future.
blaire white
Yeah.
Because it's not linear.
unidentified
Crazy.
tim pool
So the thing with synchronicities is that people who have done DMT, They'll have them in separate rooms.
They'll give them DMT and they will experience the same thing.
They'll hear the same sounds.
They'll see similar things as if they're actually looking at the same universe or something.
brett dasovic
So by time dilation, you mean like you're saying like 10 minutes feels like an hour?
blaire white
It just depends.
I don't do it often.
I've done it twice and it was years ago and I don't really want to do it again because I do actually think that it puts you in.
That's a loaded word.
You do come into contact with, in my opinion, a consciousness that's separate from you and it's not God.
Media Fracture and the Guy in Suit 00:02:46
blaire white
So, like these days, I'm just only.
tim pool
Did it say anything to you?
Did you talk to it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What did it tell you to do?
Did it say burn stuff?
blaire white
No, they were positive feelings.
They just give you a different perception on your life and kind of give you more.
Some of it's personal.
So, the one not being super specific, but they just give you information about yourself that maybe you didn't feel like you had access to before.
tim pool
Does it help you?
blaire white
It helps me a lot.
It helped me a lot, but I also am not trying to do it again.
It's like a big experience.
You don't want to do it all the time.
unidentified
Really?
blaire white
Yeah.
tim pool
But you think the things that were talking with you are bad?
blaire white
I think that I don't necessarily trust anything except, if it's higher than my perception, I don't really trust anything except God these days.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't want to talk to necessarily an angel or a demon because even the Bible says that half the angels are demons.
unidentified
Right.
They're just tricking you.
Yeah.
blaire white
So, and then that's also the story of like the book of Enoch, how the angels gave information to humans, and that was like their sin, why they got cast away from God.
tim pool
So, What if the demons are just, you know, like it's fake news and like it's.
blaire white
Yeah, they can lie to you.
tim pool
No, no, I'm saying the demons are like the Alex Joneses, you know, of the angels.
And they were like, so this angel comes down and goes, listen, I'm not trying to tell you what you do in your life, but you got to listen to me.
If you stop eating junk food and start working out, you're going to live a lot better.
And you're like, you're a demon.
I'm not supposed to listen to you.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You know?
brett dasovic
You got to work on your delivery.
tim pool
My point is like, when I was hearing these claims that the entities will try and tell you things that will benefit you, But you can't trust them because they're demons.
And I'm like, man, that's tough because that's what the corporate press says about me.
Like, I will just tell you what I think and what's going on.
And then the corporate press whispers in everyone's ears, don't listen to Tim Pool.
He's far right.
So if these entities are trying to help people, but someone's going, don't listen to them, they're demons.
I'm like, that's woke.
brett dasovic
It feels like what most of it is now.
Everybody's getting their information from like a fractured source, and everybody else is in their ear telling you, don't trust that fractured source as a natural response to the fact that nobody cares for the guy in the suit in front of the monitor anymore.
phil labonte
Do you think that it's nobody cares for the guy in the suit?
Do you think that people are just so incredibly skeptical now?
brett dasovic
I think for the most, I feel like in a lot of ways, the way we're seeing the media fracture now with everything you guys were talking about earlier, it feels like they're trying to push everybody back to the safety of the guy in the suit.
It's like, I can't know what is real, anyways.
When we were talking about it the other day, when we were talking about what's going on in Iran, and somebody's like, okay, 40,000 protesters were slaughtered.
Well, I don't know if that actually happened.
I didn't see it.
I don't know what's going on.
And somebody else says, well, we.
Blew up a girls' comic.
I didn't see that either.
Well, at least back in the day, maybe the guy in the suit was lying to me, but at least I had that sense of like, my brain is turned off and I'm just going to take him at his word.
Streaming Services Locking Out Creators 00:06:14
brett dasovic
Now you really do have to own your own choices with who you watch.
tim pool
We're going back to that world.
And this is again to the point that I was saying about like Joe Kent, Tulsi, Trump, and all that.
They want the Obama Romney, the Obama McCain fight.
brett dasovic
I actually feel like it's going, it feels like that's the way it's going back to.
I had like, I guess I do feel like politics are such a, I don't want people orchestrating plans to change the way that I perceive things.
And the fact that we have to live in a world now where you have to distinguish that constantly will end up being a, like a checkout point for a lot of people.
Like, look, I don't know anymore.
I'm just going to go watch TV and, Do whatever because I can't handle it anymore.
tim pool
And you're going to get your news not from podcasts.
Podcasts are all going to be networked and you're going to have your streaming services.
There's going to be like four big streaming services.
And I am telling you all now that this is not a theory, this is a fact.
The plan moving forward is that there will be like four or five big streaming services where everything exists.
YouTube will be considered one of these and it's going to be increasingly difficult to have a channel.
I will just tell you a couple simple things.
It is more difficult than ever to create a YouTube channel.
It is more difficult than ever to get monetized on YouTube.
The mechanism for promotion has been completely shuttered.
It's almost non existent for new channels.
They pick and choose the winners.
I have a new channel that YouTube gave me, at Tim Pool, because it was a dead channel.
I put content on there almost identical to this.
I dealt with 10, 15 copyright strikes already.
And I have to then send it to Google and be like, guys, what is this?
And I asked Google this last week.
Why is it that Timcast IRL does it never get a copyright claim?
My new channel, every other video is getting copyright claimed.
I'm doing commentary.
And they were like, the guy sends me a very generic response of when a video infringes on someone's copyright, they can file a claim.
brett dasovic
So is this like the type of thing?
Are you playing content or is it something showing up on screen from a website?
tim pool
Like playing a Twitter video?
Playing a YouTube video and commenting on it?
We do on this show all the time.
brett dasovic
From like a mainstream source?
It's just like, oh, wow.
tim pool
And then I'll get a copyright claim, dispute it.
They'll dispute the dispute.
I'll threaten to sue.
I'll fill out all the forms.
And then they'll threaten to give me a strike and go to YouTube.
And then I have to have my lawyers send a letter being like, are you nuts?
And I ask YouTube, why is this new channel being beaten down like this with these fake copyright claims?
brett dasovic
This happens all the time for the smaller channels in the commenter space.
tim pool
I think the point is they don't want to.
Independent personalities to be able to rise up.
The future is going to be though, like we climbed up the ladder and the ladder was pulled up behind us.
brett dasovic
We can't review movie trailers at all, ever, because they will get instantly copyright claims.
unidentified
Crazy.
brett dasovic
Depending on.
tim pool
We just played a movie trailer yesterday, nothing happened.
brett dasovic
Depending on.
I mean, depends on the company.
Some are more litigious than others.
Warner Brothers is really litigious and you'll get a strike, not just a claim.
And the point of it to be to keep you from talking about it because they're going to take the base assumption.
If you're covering it on YouTube, yeah, there's the ones who work with the channel specifically because they have access to the companies, but everybody else, they're going to assume that you're hostile.
tate brown
Yeah, you're seeing the latter.
tim pool
Real quick, I'm just saying the small channel gets battered with copyright, the big channel does not.
That makes no sense.
That's orchestrated.
Yeah, you do.
Just to clarify either YouTube shields bigger channels because they're like, these are legitimate large shows, or.
They're intentionally setting up a system so that new creators cannot get a foothold.
brett dasovic
Yeah, they don't, like, there's no point in starting because you, first of all, you just listed that whole process of, like, I file this, they file this, then they send it to my lawyers.
Well, the average person doesn't have lawyers that they can send.
Yep, just because the video's gone.
So they just don't.
Like, for us, we have to move on and just talk about things that don't involve that, or at least we're going to be like, okay, well, we're going to, maybe we'll watch it afterwards, but we can't watch it, but here's what happened in it.
And of course, that makes the content less engaging by definition, making it impossible to get a foothold in it.
tate brown
You're seeing the ladder getting pulled up, like, right now because, Like YouTube, again, the successful creators, it's locked in now.
And then it's funny, you'll see tweets go viral all the time where people are like, it's harder and harder to find a good video to watch while I'm eating on YouTube.
That was like the thing you watch a video while you're eating, and it's getting impossible.
The content is getting worse.
The actual quality of content on YouTube is getting worse.
And now you're seeing the market react.
So I thought this was really fascinating.
I was in the UK recently, and there, this isn't an advertisement because I think this is a bad thing, quite frankly, but Sky, that's like the biggest provider in the UK, has a new bundle.
Like no one's ever done this.
And it's like Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max, all in the same bundle.
And it was like a pretty cheap price.
unidentified
I got an advertisement.
tate brown
This is a bad thing.
And so it's like, that's kind of where things are moving to Tim's point.
Everything is consolidating and people are tapping out.
They're just moving to streaming services.
A lot of them are like abandoning YouTube because, again, like it's so hard to find good content on YouTube now when it used to be everywhere.
And then what happened in the UK, that's going to happen here soon, I bet.
Like, I bet ATT or someone's going to throw out because Sky, everything is Sky.
Same thing's going to happen here in the US.
You're starting to see bundles now, but like that's going to become a very mainstream thing and it's just going to further close out YouTube.
brett dasovic
You're already been going on here for a while.
phil labonte
You buy, like, if you go to your Amazon, Like Prime Video Selector thing, there's stuff from Paramount, there's stuff from Amazon.
tate brown
It was just bizarre to see it on billboards like, hey, just buy our phone package and we're going to include all these streaming services.
Like, all by like, it's just obvious the direction things are heading in.
To Tim's point, like, not just small channels are getting locked out, but there's just so much slop on there.
The sifter to find anything good anyway.
That's just the point.
unidentified
It's like it takes you more time to find something to watch.
tim pool
Oh, but at least YouTube is like that now, yeah.
tate brown
And it's like at least on the streaming service, like, you can get recommended and like you can at least find some.
brett dasovic
Algorithmically, it pushes your direct, depending on how much content you're watching, you can have a pretty refined.
tate brown
It's just interesting.
Like, I was looking on YouTube recently and I was looking at my YouTube history, and it's so sparse.
Like, I'm barely watching any YouTube videos anymore.
Chimps, Bananas, and Warfare Parallels 00:03:59
tate brown
Like, I'm actually turning to print again.
Like, that's the goal, brother.
Well, I'm just saying, like, I think a lot of people that are maybe inquisitive are just turning to print.
I think potentially, like, we could see a resurgence of print.
tim pool
Let's jump to the most important story of the day from the New York Times.
These chimps began the bloodiest war on record.
No one knows why.
Well, New York Times, your journalists, have you considered asking them?
Do your jobs.
A long running conflict in a Ugandan park may provide clues to the origins of human warfare and how to avoid it, really.
Blah, blah, blah.
Chimp empire.
They say it's led to provide insights.
Now, scientists are finding darker parallels.
On Thursday, a group of researchers reported that Ugandan chimps are locked in a primate version of a civil war.
Two factions split about a decade ago and have been engaged in a highly lethal conflict ever since.
Scientists have never seen such widespread, long running bloodshed among chimpanzees.
Further studies may shed light on the roots of warfare in our own species.
Well, it may be that these chimps.
Are chimping out.
brett dasovic
Which one is Iron Man and which one is Captain America?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Did they, like, further studies?
Although the Trump administration.
Wait, where?
Go down a little bit.
There it is.
Although the Trump administration proposed budget.
Oh, okay.
I thought.
tim pool
Has cast doubt on whether the research will continue.
tate brown
I thought they were trying to equate, like, the military budget or something.
brett dasovic
No, I like that.
Trump is like, we can't comment on that.
tim pool
No, this is from today.
Lethal conflict after group fission and wild chimpanzees.
It's a science.org release.
They say territorial conflicts and animals can inform aspects of human warfare, but civil war.
So apparently, using what was this?
The chimps are fighting?
Okay, hold on.
Can we arm one of the factions?
tate brown
I think we should back one of them.
phil labonte
Well, I just saw a post today that's just a couple hours ago that said the chimp group center appears to be on the verge of routing.
They've retreated from the primate lodge, and their alpha male Morton appears to be heavily wounded or perhaps KIA.
So it looks like this is real.
tate brown
Was Morton still in the strike?
phil labonte
Legitimate.
brett dasovic
So we're doing regime change here, too?
tate brown
I think it's worthwhile.
I think it's worth pursuing.
brett dasovic
They have oil.
tim pool
I say, why not give one of the groups of chimps baseball bangs?
brett dasovic
Just to see what happens.
tate brown
Well, it's funny because the lab coats get so excited every time a chimp uses a rock to break something.
And they're figuring out tools.
And then three weeks later, they just stop using it.
It happens all the time.
tim pool
I think we must consider the prime directive, however.
We can't interfere with the natural development of a lesser species.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Unless or until they discover locomotion.
Once the chimps figure out how to drive cars, we'll have no choice but to engage with them because sooner or later, they'll be driving through our streets and cities.
And that's when we'll introduce and begin communication.
tate brown
Well, did you enjoy the 7,000 bananas, Tim?
Because, I mean, quite frankly, that's all they get paid.
No, this is really good.
tim pool
Chimps, they don't eat bananas.
tate brown
What do they eat?
tim pool
Ants.
brett dasovic
Is that like a product of like carnivores?
blaire white
I think they're carnivores.
tim pool
Yeah, like, do actually, do bananas grow in the same region as chimps?
Maybe I'm wrong.
tate brown
The Congo?
I think that bananas grow there, I'm pretty sure.
But they eat like weird, because you see like what actual bananas are.
tim pool
No, bro, bananas are in like Nicaragua.
They probably do.
tate brown
I'm sure they do, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, chimps are like this.
Yes, chimpanzees are omnivores.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Chimpanzees overlap in some regions.
tate brown
This is why I love GMOs because when you see non GMO edited bananas, they look disgusting.
Like, I would never eat that.
I love the slop.
phil labonte
Chimpanzees consume both plant based foods and animal matter.
Their diet is primarily fruits, consisting mostly of seeds, nuts, leaves, fruits, and flowers.
They actively hunt and eat meat, including insects, birds, eggs, and small to medium sized mammals like monkeys and bushbacks.
tim pool
So, bananas were introduced through trade and are not native to Africa, but now they are heavily cultivated.
And so, chimps in Africa do, in fact, eat bananas.
unidentified
Yeah.
Shout out to chimps.
Mike Tyson Pigeons and Cargo Rules 00:13:55
unidentified
They're beautiful.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you a story, guys.
Never, when you fly, never bring animals in the cargo.
Animals must always fly with you in the plane.
blaire white
Yeah, I would never put my dogs in the cargo.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you a couple stories, and it's related to this.
So, the first story is that there were test monkeys being transported through O'Hare, and one of the airline employees saw the monkeys in these little crates, and they have.
Steel like they'd like metal grates and it was a wood box And everyone was laughing.
And then one guy took a banana from the cafeteria, cracked it, grabbed a bunch of banana, and smushed it into the monkey cage for them.
And the monkey started eating them.
And I'm like, bro, that's messed up.
Like, don't feed the monkeys.
You have no idea what they're for, what they're doing.
You can get sick.
But the other crazy story is that they used to let dogs run around.
So when you have your dog going to the cargo hold and you drop it off, they would bring it in the break room and open the thing and let the dog run around.
And one day, the doors, In the break room, the main break room for American Eagle, they don't latch shut.
They're just heavy.
So when you pull them open, there's no bar, no knob or anything.
So apparently, what happened was they opened the crate, let the dog run around the break room, and thought it was funny, and the dog was freaking out.
So a guy, the break room has two doors.
It goes across the whole terminal or the B gates or whatever.
So a guy walked up, or I think this is H, and he grabbed the door to open it to walk in, and the dog bolted out and got out and ran off.
And that was it.
Dog was gone.
So the people who own the dog are like, what happened to my dog?
And the employees all lie because they want to get in trouble.
And if someone just told the truth, that family might have got their dog back.
But apparently the dog ran off and was never seen again.
unidentified
That's horrible.
That's horrible.
Yeah.
tim pool
So do not check your dogs because strangers will be doing things to them.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
phil labonte
And also, I mean, if they put it on the tarmac when the engines are roaring, like before they load it in, it's bad for their ears and stuff, you know?
tim pool
Dude, it's wild to put a dog in a cargo hold.
blaire white
Yeah, I can't even.
Mine are always in the seat next to me.
tim pool
If you've got a big dog, I know it's rough, but there's only one guy who brings a horse on the plane.
Not a joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The famous story a guy would bring a mini horse on the plane with him.
Service animal.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
tim pool
I was on a flight recently.
Where were we flying back from?
Was it Texas, I think?
And the woman next to me had a little dog.
And she puts the bag down and unzips it.
The dog can pop his head out.
And the flight attendant was like, zip it back up.
Dog's got to be locked in the bag.
And she was like, he'll freak out.
It's like, company policy, do it or else.
blaire white
No, yeah, I've had nightmares with my dogs freaking out because they do not let the head pop out.
They don't let you comfort them, anything.
It's kind of like messed up.
tim pool
What you've got to do is you've got to train the dog to just sit on your head and not move.
And you can be like, it's a hat.
unidentified
Did you see that?
Did you see that?
Yeah, the cat hat.
That wasn't AI.
No.
brett dasovic
A person wore a cat as a hat.
See if you can find the.
unidentified
You saw it, right?
brett dasovic
Yeah, I saw it.
unidentified
Yeah, no, it's some lady wore a cat as a hat all the way through an airport.
blaire white
I thought it was AI.
See, nothing.
unidentified
It might be.
blaire white
Well, everything might as well just be AI.
unidentified
It ruins it.
tate brown
Nothing exciting is not AI anymore.
The world's so boring and stale.
unidentified
What?
tate brown
Black build now.
Cat hat's not real.
It's over.
unidentified
Well, we don't know that yet.
brett dasovic
It's been like three years and really wait.
So animals' mouths don't move when they speak with a human voice?
tim pool
Is there a.
Is it this one?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Can we, by the way, can we have someone monitoring the situation on the chimps?
That's real.
blaire white
How is it doing that?
tate brown
Might be dead.
tim pool
That was very annoying.
Oh, that gets looking around and stuff, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, God.
She must have trained it to do that.
Speak.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Just walk with confidence and nobody will say anything.
unidentified
I just, that doesn't look like something that I would let someone through security with.
Like, no.
tim pool
I was watching this video on Instagram today and it's like a security cam footage of a woman in her house or something.
And then the cat walks up and is yelling at her, going, man.
She's like, I know, I know.
And it goes, man.
Then it bites her leg, it bites her ankle and starts screaming.
And she grabs it.
She's like, ah, ah, ah.
And then she throws it off and it runs up and bites her hand.
And then she's just screaming and fighting the cat.
And I'm just sitting there being like, how do you lose a fight to a cat?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tate brown
That should be pretty easy.
tim pool
Just grab it by the neck and hold it up.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I feel like Trump saw that and that's why he sent ICE to the airport.
unidentified
Gotta stop.
brett dasovic
Replace TSA.
tim pool
Tampa Airport, cat hats.
You can't have it.
Not traditional.
phil labonte
Gotta go.
Can't have it.
tim pool
Cat hat.
No, I'm in favor of cat hat.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
You're pro cat hat.
tim pool
I'm absolutely pro cat hat.
Bring more.
There was a dude in Venice.
In California, who would wear this, like, it was like a front facing backpack, I guess, but he put a platform on it and it was a cat sitting on it.
And he would just walk down the boardwalk every day.
Everybody knew him.
They just had a cat.
And everyone loved it.
tate brown
He put his parrot in a submarine and the parrot, that was a real video, and the parrot was like in a glass box underwater.
blaire white
Oh, I saw that.
tate brown
It's the first bird to ever be underwater.
blaire white
I felt bad for it.
tim pool
There are birds that literally dive underwater.
tate brown
Yeah, but like to be like chilling there.
He was like looking around like, what?
tim pool
Have you ever seen an asprey?
tate brown
No, I know birds like dive, but like this is the first bird to like you know hang out there.
I think there's something to be said about it.
I don't know if they're supposed to do recreationally, yeah.
Because there was a video of a dog with like a scuba helmet on, he was like pissed.
I do not want to be under here, I think it's valid.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
tate brown
For the same reason, we shouldn't expose Somalis to like the Minnesota cold.
I don't think we should expose the parrots to the underwater world.
I don't think it's right.
tim pool
Same way, oh, I think I've fact checked true.
Is this it?
tate brown
Yeah, that's it.
unidentified
Poor bird.
This is animal abuse.
I don't care.
tate brown
Or they view him as like a sort of Buzz Aldrin like figure.
unidentified
It's like, this is.
tim pool
I don't think the bird's chilling.
I think it's freaking out.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's hard to not be freaking out.
tim pool
The parakeet's behavior was consistent with him having a great time.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Says who?
Did they ask it?
tate brown
Yeah, he'd be trying to fly out.
unidentified
He's smiling.
You can tell by his lips.
tate brown
Even if the bird is mad, who cares what a bird thinks?
Like, let's put it underwater and see what happens.
That's so like Faustian.
I love that.
We're back.
tim pool
This is the only news that matters.
See, this Artemis cares about Trump and Tucker.
tate brown
I know.
And the Artemis stuff is so gay.
Put the budget on this.
Put animals in different places and see what happens.
phil labonte
What about around the moon?
tim pool
Have you guys ever seen the video of the eagle killing the mountain goat?
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, we got to pull that one up.
phil labonte
That just flies out.
tate brown
NASA should fund bald eagles just killing different national animals of other countries.
phil labonte
Maybe the Fish and Wildlife Service should do that and not NASA.
tate brown
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, that seems like CIA purview, anyways.
Like, we'd be training our animals.
tate brown
Regardless, some three letter agency needs to hop on this.
This is, like, literally gold.
tim pool
Let's see.
unidentified
Is this the video?
tim pool
Dramatic mountain goat video.
Yes, dude.
Bro.
Nature is metal.
Let's watch.
unidentified
Look at this.
See ya.
Let's go.
tim pool
He grabs the goat because it wants to eat him.
And then he's fighting.
The other goats are like, yo, bro, what up?
unidentified
And then, doom.
tim pool
Look at this.
unidentified
There he goes.
Oh, man.
tim pool
Oh my god, look at the other goats.
They're like, yo, knock it off.
Nah, he got you, bro.
unidentified
There it is.
blaire white
Is the other goat trying to help?
unidentified
Yeah.
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
Bro, what would you do if some guy was trying to throw your bra off a fucking thing?
Oh no, they're gonna get that bird, huh?
That bird's getting cooked.
phil labonte
I mean, you'd think they have hollow bones.
blaire white
Damn, it is on there.
unidentified
It's on there, yeah.
tim pool
He's gonna eat that guy, dude.
He's hungry.
unidentified
I'm waiting for them to fly away.
tim pool
I mean, if he stopped running around like a lunatic, yeah.
Like the other goat could help.
tate brown
He's trying to negotiate.
Ceasefire.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, he's just freaking out, and that's just a scroll of poor, stupid birds.
tim pool
All right, but wait, I got a better one.
I got a better one.
That's not the metal one that I was thinking of.
tate brown
It was fairly metal, I'd say.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
I don't know if this is real.
Is this real?
I think it's real.
unidentified
I recall.
Nah, that's not real.
No.
What?
brett dasovic
I recall seeing this before.
blaire white
That seems like something it really does.
brett dasovic
It's like an NFL videographer who catches and throws.
unidentified
Nah.
tim pool
Oh, this is sped up.
Because there are a bunch of videos like this.
unidentified
There's one with like a.
A bird flying away with some kid, and then he barely gets dropped.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's a little one.
blaire white
That's what I'm so scared about with my dogs.
unidentified
Drops it.
See ya.
So that's real?
phil labonte
Pretty.
tim pool
I mean, they do that.
This is real.
blaire white
It's a video thing.
tate brown
It's always side of birds.
phil labonte
And also, like, it's not.
Like, that's not like a full size goat like the other goat.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a baby.
tate brown
So he just killed.
tim pool
Then it dies, he goes on and eats it.
tate brown
I thought he was just sending a message.
phil labonte
Oh, the baby eagles.
tate brown
You're up next, kid.
tim pool
I have a question for you guys.
Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?
phil labonte
No, I don't think so.
blaire white
We need justice for pigeons.
I've been on pigeon talk, pigeon TikTok.
Have you been on it?
tim pool
Pigeons are based.
blaire white
We domesticated them, then we abandoned them.
tim pool
Do you have any idea how much garbage would be littering the streets of all of our major cities if pigeons didn't exist?
blaire white
And they used to do our mail.
tim pool
Pigeons are literally human garbage incarnate.
For real, like we throw a cheeseburger on the ground, a pigeon will eat it.
That burger meat turns into an egg in its belly and then becomes a pigeon.
And that baby pigeon eats refuse and grows up.
Our garbage is manifesting into birds.
phil labonte
It's magic.
tim pool
I saw a baby pigeon once.
I was in Chicago and this was on Belmont.
Was it on Belmont?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was going under, I think, like 95 Bridge or whatever.
And I saw this weird little poof ball bird that I'd never seen before.
And I was like, what is that thing?
And it was like freaking out and yelling.
And then I realized it was a baby pigeon and I'd never seen one before.
Isn't that weird?
unidentified
Why not?
blaire white
Yeah, I don't think I've seen a baby one.
tim pool
I guess like the babies don't leave the nest until they have all their feathers or something?
blaire white
Well, pigeons have a hard time even building nests.
tim pool
Well, because they're dumb.
blaire white
They like lost their ability to do it.
No, because we domesticated them.
So they didn't need to do it anymore.
phil labonte
Are they really domesticated?
blaire white
Yeah, no, they used to do our mail.
We used them in war.
They were pets for like the longest time.
And then like the mid 1800s, we were like, never mind, we like dogs better.
phil labonte
Well, we definitely like them.
blaire white
And that's why they're all like homeless in the cities now.
Pigeons still are people.
tim pool
Pigeons nest much longer than many other birds.
Yep.
Their parents feed them a special pigeon milk, a nutrient rich secretion from their crops.
blaire white
They're also very smart.
I feel bad for pigeons.
I like them.
brett dasovic
It's like in Ace Ventura 2 when nature calls, when he's going down the side of the mountain and the pigeon's dying and he pukes to feed the pigeon.
unidentified
Yeah.
I respect that.
Gross.
tim pool
George Santos tells me that pigeons are rats with wings.
Thanks, George.
Thanks for texting me.
tate brown
They don't have good PR.
brett dasovic
That happened in the movie Major League Two when the bird gets hit with the ball, and then Bobby Eager goes, Who cares?
It's a rat with wings.
blaire white
Did you ever see Mike Tyson had like 50 pigeons?
unidentified
Yeah.
blaire white
He owned like.
tim pool
He can command them.
blaire white
He had like a whole house of pigeons.
tate brown
It was like 20,000, wasn't it?
I thought there were thousands of them.
tim pool
I bet you could train pigeons to be a pigeon.
blaire white
You should look up Mike Tyson pigeons.
tate brown
They come back to him.
He whistles at them.
phil labonte
That's good.
brett dasovic
I mean, you're going to do whatever Mike Tyson tells you.
tate brown
You're going to punch one of them and they won't get in line.
tim pool
Actually, they're not even his pigeons.
They've just seen his work.
unidentified
They're just fans.
tate brown
It's probably true.
phil labonte
I don't want to get punched by Mike Tyson.
brett dasovic
They don't want their little pigeon ears bitten off.
blaire white
But they do make good pets.
unidentified
They have.
Very pro pigeon.
Do they really?
phil labonte
You're pro pigeon, right?
blaire white
I'm so pro pigeon.
Because they were our pet.
They were like dogs before World War II.
tate brown
This is just got abandoned.
It's really sad.
unidentified
I know.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, this is awesome.
mike tyson
The Penal World Pigeon Champion, Kevin McKinley.
He had the best birds in the world, and I'm coming to see him.
unidentified
Good to see you, Mike.
Good to see you, Mike.
mike tyson
Let's see the magic.
He's the cop, huh?
unidentified
He's the cop, Mike.
Feel him.
He's very late.
He's old, mate.
He's old, he's old.
I was the highest quality in the whole of the All England.
No other pigeons had better quality.
Did you just see even Luxembourg?
blaire white
These aren't Mike's pigeons.
tate brown
There's a video of him with like a flock in it.
unidentified
Mike, you're going to do me a favour.
tim pool
Jake Paul gives Mike Tyson a pigeon.
unidentified
Also, there's pink pigeons.
There's pink pigeons.
We're going to take the left wing.
Wow, now we're going to take the left wing.
Jesus Christ, mate.
Here you go.
tim pool
Jake Paul gives Mike Tyson a pigeon.
unidentified
Jesus.
Oh, yeah.
I told you guys.
brian major threat in unknown
Someone wants an update on my new pigeon that Mike Tyson denied.
unidentified
Oh, I got you again.
mike tyson
I'll feed him to my falcon.
brian major threat in unknown
Richard here is doing absolutely amazing.
He's thriving.
He's having the best time.
unidentified
Why is he naked?
brian major threat in unknown
I can't believe Mike Tyson let you go.
unidentified
Come here, buddy.
Yeah.
brian major threat in unknown
He likes playing this game.
He runs away and then I go get him again.
unidentified
He's like, oh, my God.
He popped the fucking wheel.
He really loved that bird, huh?
Mm hmm.
Why is he naked?
This is meant to be naked with shoes.
All right.
You want to go explore?
phil labonte
This sucks.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
That was fun.
Hey, we're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chats.
So smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.
The uncensored portion of the show will be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
But let's grab your comments while we're here.
Casino Bad Beats and Responsible Gaming 00:05:32
tim pool
Don't forget, my friends, you've got to go to castbrew.com, buy Cast Brew Coffee.
It's delicious.
Now, these Cast Brew Vault Blacks are amazing.
These are his little bottles.
It's cold brew concentrate.
Take one of these things, crack into a glass.
Mix in some fresh spring water.
We wanted to make cold brew in cans and ship them out.
Prohibitively expensive.
Unless you're ordering like a million of them, it would cost like five bucks per can.
And we are like, that's nuts.
And we're not making any money off that.
But by doing a Cass Brew Cold Brew Concentrate, we can actually ship much more easily concentrated coffee at way cheaper cost.
brett dasovic
The only time I've ever seen the shooters of that, that's what I drink.
I drink cold brew concentrate, but it's usually like a small jug that you use throughout the week or whatever.
tim pool
Well, not only that, maybe you don't want to sit there and drink a full cup of coffee, so you crack a shooter and Slam it.
brett dasovic
Have somebody do like a ship in a bottle with one of the Vault Blacks.
unidentified
Okay.
It'd be cool.
tim pool
Yeah, they're, so it's funny because it's five bucks out the door for one single, and a six pack is $28.99.
That's us reducing the shipping weight to get it down and to be able to actually, like, we don't make a great margin off these things.
But you buy a shooter, you crack it, little coffee shot, it's a cup of coffee and a little bottle.
Hey, check it out.
Let's also, don't forget, we got the pool water and the aluminum cans.
Available now.
All right, we got Wesley, bruh.
So, just want to throw back to last week's conversation about rock music being the most popular.
Parkway Drive played at the Sydney Opera House last year.
Yeah, my conspiracy theory is that the political elites and the cronies intentionally killed rock music because they want to destroy, like, the American traditional culture.
blaire white
It was too empowering for white people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I would just say, like, the American spirit, you know?
It was American traditionalism, which indeed is largely white.
But there are a lot of, like Hendrix, like there are a lot of non white rock superstars.
unidentified
Prince.
tim pool
Prince.
tate brown
I mean, I would say the Masters attacks is definitely strictly anti white.
That's crazy.
Have you seen like the Barstoolification going on at the Masters right now?
unidentified
Barstoolification.
brett dasovic
It's becoming like Brogolf or something.
tate brown
That is more vehemently anti white than anything like the DEI agenda.
tim pool
Why?
Because you have like Brits being like, oh, I dare say, is that Dave Portnoy?
And he's like, yo, I'm going to review your swing with one go.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
unidentified
You guys know the rules.
tate brown
They like trot out like Travis Kelsey's.
There's like a fat slob, and they're like, this white man, this is how you should be.
You should be like him.
And it's just like.
tim pool
Oh, you mean Happy Gilmore was anti white?
tate brown
Well, that's a whole.
See, that's sad to me.
tim pool
Happy Gilmore, too.
tate brown
But they're just ruining the map.
There's nothing great.
They won't let anything great happen.
brett dasovic
Because they won't come for horse racing.
They'll come for horse racing alone.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got Rick S.A. says, Why is Alex Jones always in his car now?
Man's got places to be.
unidentified
It's true.
tate brown
He's on the move.
unidentified
He's busy.
brett dasovic
Yeah, he's got time.
There have been like videos made about like why so many people make videos in their car, and it's beyond just.
Being like a place that's sound controlled and stuff like that.
Like, there are people, like, you know, the idea that creatives they become like more creative at night.
There's now like a generation of influencers who don't feel the need to create until they close the car door.
tate brown
Well, you get angry.
So, like, low ceilings raise your cortisol.
That's why when people are wearing hats, they get angrier.
And so, like, that's why people in cars get angry because they have road rages because it's a low ceiling.
Higher ceilings allows you to be lofty.
This is why the ancients had the high ceiling.
unidentified
Really?
tate brown
It allows you to be loftier and expand your minds.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
So, people recording videos in their cars are usually pretty angry or upset.
blaire white
Yeah.
tate brown
And so that could be Alex James trying to tap into that, get mad again.
It's a thing.
tim pool
Joseph Langone says about to go play cards at the vending machine down the street in Charlestown.
Wish me luck, y'all.
Last time I got to hand only to be beaten at the last second.
Quad Jacks with an ace versus quad aces with a king.
Love listening to the show.
So that would imply you were Pocket Jacks versus Ace King.
And it ran out nastiest of boards.
That's crazy.
That we call a bad beat.
And if you played anywhere else, you'd have won a lot of money, but Charlestown got rid of their bad beat because they lost too many times.
So, guys, understand what it means to be responsible in your gambling.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Charlestown Casino had a bad beat promotion.
The way this works is if you get a really good poker hand in Texas Hold'em and someone else gets a really good poker hand and they're both above a certain threshold, the bad beat triggers where I think they did a $10,000 one where the loser gets five grand, the winner gets three grand, and everyone at the table shares in two grand.
So, what happened was the way the promo works at most places, if you have four, like, so it's called quads, four of a kind, sevens, and you lose, meaning someone has better, like a straight flush, a royal flush, or, you know, quad eights are better, that triggers the bad beat.
Very, very rarely do you ever see a straight flush beat quads.
Like, it's hard enough to get those hands.
So, the thing is, the way Charlestown did it is that I think it was every month.
Every month, if no one got the bad beat, they would reduce the threshold, making it easier to get.
That was a really great idea.
The idea is that by offering this great promotion, more people want to come and play in your card room.
The only problem is it triggered three times in one month.
So, being responsible gamblers, the casino said, We're not going to do this anymore.
We've lost too many times.
If you go to a casino and you lose three times, you'd stop.
The casino lost three times and they stopped.
See, be responsible like them.
Bitcoin IOUs and Coordinated Campaigns 00:06:54
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Skyline says Tim just found out scheme to do federal policing at local level by increasing crime via Soros funded prosecutors.
I've been saying it since Obama and Michael Brown times.
Skyline just found out about how we've been talking about that for years since the George Floyd riots on this show six years after the fact.
Shreddy says the problem is not Trump.
It's the era of government officials with more power than they should have.
And Trump only shined the flashlight on them.
And the flashlight has two years left and it lights out.
No, it doesn't.
The flashlight's got seven months, eight months.
Technically, Eight months because January 3rd, 27 is when the new Congress will come in, and then they're immediately going to lock Trump up.
Like, not literally, but he'll be impeached.
And if they somehow, I don't think it's possible for them to muster up a supermajority.
Functionally, it could happen, but practically, it's just impossible.
But they will impeach Trump.
He's going to get impeached.
unidentified
It's going to happen.
tim pool
They may try and do a 25th Amendment thing, but that won't happen.
Fire Up Arm Cannon says Tim, pole shift will not change Earth's axis of rotation.
These are controlled by two completely different geologic processes.
Worst case scenario, it brings the electrical comms grid down no more.
Indeed, which is why I've explained the official mainstream science that the poles shift every half a million years or so, a little bit more.
I think it's like, well, like 650,000.
And we are overdue.
We're beyond the average point.
The Adam and Eve conspiracy theorists believe every 6,500 years the Earth will shift.
Their explanation for this is that woolly mammoths were flash frozen with plant matter undigested and in their bellies.
And Antarctica is, they believe, will move to the equator and melt, and that there's glaciers in Indonesia.
I don't think it's true.
Phalanx says, you could already enlist up to 42 years of age.
You just need the recruitment battalion commander to sign off on it.
All this policy did was make it so you don't need that sign off.
Mason says, we'll introduce only chimps to them and end their civilization before it begins.
unidentified
Ah.
tim pool
Well, you guys know about the Capuchin prostitution, right?
unidentified
No.
No.
tim pool
They did an experiment where they took Capuchin monkeys and they gave them grapes, and the females started trading sex for the grapes.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And the males were like, yes.
phil labonte
The oldest profession.
tim pool
Yeah, but I want to clarify this.
The female is like, I would like a strong male could provide for me.
And this male is like, I will give you food.
And she's like, let's bang.
Like, they make it sound more nefarious than it really is.
Female of species wants male to provide for her, then wants to bang him.
Right, because he can provide for her.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's also a really funny capuchin experiment where they gave the monkeys grapes.
And the monkeys are like, let's go.
Then the next day, they gave one monkey a grape and one a cucumber.
And the monkey, the cucumber, loses its.
It's like, no!
unidentified
What?
tim pool
I'd be pissed too.
unidentified
A cucumber?
tim pool
Did he give you a cucumber?
I'm throwing it in the garbage.
brett dasovic
Eventually, the female monkeys will learn that they could just post pictures of themselves online, and a ton of male monkeys will email grapes to them.
tim pool
All right.
IDGAF says, Phil, the other night you said the Terminator isn't political.
Terminator 2 is heavily themed off, was it say Kafta's?
Metamorphosis?
Is it Kafka's?
unidentified
Kafka, yeah.
tim pool
It says Kafta, though.
A critique of existentialism and futility of man in modern society.
phil labonte
Did I say the Terminator wasn't political?
unidentified
I don't remember.
tim pool
I don't remember that.
phil labonte
I don't recall saying that either.
unidentified
Maybe you did.
brett dasovic
I would love to talk about how Terminator 1 is still better than Terminator 2.
unidentified
You did, too, though.
tim pool
It was right after you were talking about how you owed me that $100.
I just don't remember.
phil labonte
Right, yeah.
Okay, you're right.
unidentified
I'd froze it.
tate brown
I don't know what his deal is.
I'm still waiting on the grand.
tim pool
Yeah, Phil, you're being very forgetful these days.
phil labonte
I am.
unidentified
I am.
phil labonte
It's because I'm old.
unidentified
It is.
phil labonte
That's right.
My birthday's next week.
I'm going to be older.
You know, so.
unidentified
Oh, we're 70.
tate brown
That happens with the birthdays.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
So annoying.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Marutia.
Tim, please read The Great Taking and Hijacking Bitcoin.
Securities are being turned into IOUs like our money.
Epstein tried controlling Tether and the core BTC developers, that puts Rumble at risk.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
There was that rumor that Iran wanted to do a toll on the Strait of Hormuz and charge crypto.
phil labonte
I'm using your dollars.
tim pool
If that, Trump says it's not true, but if that happened, every crypto jumps 1,000%.
Could you imagine if they were like, if you want your oil, you got to buy Bitcoin?
That would be insane.
Jeez, dude.
I do think Bitcoin will one day be at a million dollars based on the decimal point breakdown, meaning that one Satoshi will be equivalent to like, will be like one cent.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tim pool
One Satoshi is the smallest breakdown possible.
So, one Bitcoin can have eight decimal point fractions.
So, the smallest increment of a Bitcoin is called a Satoshi, and that would be the equivalent of one cent, meaning what Bitcoin itself will be $1 million.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
That one gamer says, Nice to know they finally acknowledge it's a war.
Ridiculous how he started with regime change but brokered a deal to keep them in power.
This admin deserves to fail, nothing short of quagmire.
Yeah, they killed like 40, 50 people.
Like, the entire Iranian government's dead.
And the title of son is comatose with a missing leg.
phil labonte
They took out the whole Navy.
They took out their Air Force.
I mean, you can say that the U.S. didn't achieve the regime change, and that's fair.
But to say that Iran is walking away this powerful winner, Iran's ability to make war has been significantly degraded.
tim pool
Violet Death Ray says This is the president I voted for.
Marjorie Trader Brown, and calling Candace Owens less attractive than Brigitte Macron is comedy gold.
It's true.
Trader Brown.
I don't.
She didn't earn green.
Is that what he said?
phil labonte
That's what he said.
tim pool
What's the implication?
tate brown
Well, he's saying, like, everything she touches just turns brown.
Like, green represents, like, life, grass, and trees.
tim pool
I think he's making another reference.
All right.
Amtru says the U.S. would be destroyed if Kamala Kane got into the White House.
All you effing idiots, God bless all the haters.
Hell is real.
unidentified
Have fun.
tim pool
LOL.
Peace.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I legitimately think that even now, today, it is a way better situation that Trump got elected than had Kamala gotten elected.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
blaire white
No one's trying to reverse their vote.
tim pool
I mean, J Mo says, why don't you guys go support the libertarians then?
One year in and you're crying like children because he hasn't gotten done.
What's going to take four years?
unidentified
Who, us?
tim pool
Denounce your support and stop flip flopping like a fish out of water.
I assume you're talking about Candace and Tucker.
blaire white
Who's crying?
tim pool
Yeah, also, like, I don't think you're talking about us on this show where I've defended Trump and we went into great detail about how Trump may have a plan.
phil labonte
And supporting the libertarians is like supporting Grover for president, too.
tim pool
I did a big segment this morning.
Fast Food Prices and RC Cola Treats 00:07:29
tim pool
There is a coordinated op campaign targeting people based on, and it may be from Trump, I don't know.
But the way it works, I'll keep it simple for you guys.
They will scrape the internet for stories to get a general sense of someone's political leanings or opinion.
They will then go to botnets or marketing companies and say, target people that feel this way about thing.
So if you were to search for like Tim Poole recently, Daily Beast has continually wrote stories saying that I'm attacking Trump, which I never did once.
It's just fake news.
So if you work for a PR company and you don't know who I am or what I think, you're going to start having your people spam Tim Poole hates Trump.
And then people are going to spam with, what?
Tim's been defending Trump the whole time.
This makes no sense.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because the bot campaigns or the coordinated campaigns with people don't know who I am or what I've said.
It's all fake.
We've actually talked about this quite a bit over the past 10 years.
I've been on a bunch of videos about this where people will say, like, that joke if you say you like pancakes, someone will say, Why do you hate waffles?
So there are a ton of instances of this where a company will scrape social media, identify prominent personalities.
They will say, This person does not like Coca Cola.
They like Pepsi.
However, that post might actually have been sarcasm.
The person will post something like, Oh, yeah, sure, I'd love to drink Pepsi because Coke is disgusting.
And they're actually being sarcastic.
But the botnet campaigns don't know what sarcasm is.
So all of a sudden, you'll make a post where you're like, looking forward to picking up a bunch of Pepsi today, and all the comments will be, you people who hate Pepsi are disgusting.
And you're like, wait, what just happened?
Like, why are they responding as though I said the opposite?
brett dasovic
I mean, the people that hate Pepsi are disgusting.
tim pool
So Pepsi is better than Coke.
brett dasovic
Pepsi is far better than Coke.
tim pool
Thank you.
I despise Coke.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah, Pepsi is delicious.
But to be fair, there is one that's better than all of them RC Cola.
That's correct.
That is the correct answer.
brett dasovic
Dr. Pepper is actually the correct answer.
unidentified
Oh, why?
That's not Cola.
tim pool
Royal Crown Cola is the best cola.
I don't know if people are drinking Pepsi.
Pepsi's okay.
Coke is nasty.
brett dasovic
Mike in the chat for PCC is just livid right now because he is just an ardent Coke defender.
He knows it's wrong.
He should feel horrible about it, but that's okay, bro.
You can always go, and I don't even drink soda anymore, but I still defend Pepsi.
tim pool
When people are like, you know, you're at a restaurant, you're like, I'll have a Pepsi, and they go, we have Coke.
Is that okay?
No, it's not.
I won't do it.
blaire white
It's really not okay.
tim pool
Absolutely not.
brett dasovic
What am I at communist?
tim pool
Pepsi has got like a sweeter, lighter, You know, it's brighter.
And Coke is, I would describe Coke as blunt.
And I'm not a fan.
Not a fan.
I don't like it.
When I was on the plane flying back from Austin, the flight attendant asked me if I wanted anything.
And I went, I love a Coke.
I haven't had a Coca Cola in like three or four years, you know?
I hated it.
unidentified
It's for fat people.
tim pool
What did Trump say?
I've never seen a thin person drink a Diet Coke.
Anyway, I don't drink Pepsi either, but I did just have an RC Cola.
I went to Boxcar Burgers in Brunswick.
Some of the best cheeseburgers you'll ever have.
I've got the cheese fries, bro.
Big old spattering of fries with cheese all over them.
And so good.
And I got a burger.
unidentified
So good.
tim pool
And then I got me an RC Cola.
And they will have my business forever because they sell RC Cola.
brett dasovic
We're right over by there.
And it's just.
It's a little on the expensive side for the portions, in my personal opinion.
unidentified
Is it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
How much was the burger?
It was like $10?
unidentified
I mean, it was.
brett dasovic
No, it was more.
Like, I mean, like, it's okay because it's like local.
You're shopping local.
It's beneficial to the local.
tim pool
I mean, and you're treating yourself to an RC.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
When you go to a restaurant, they got RC cola.
You're going to be.
The shopping local thing.
tate brown
The shopping local thing is getting out of control, though.
Because it's like, I feel like I'm doing charities sometimes.
I think I'm charging like $30 for a meal.
I'm like, McDonald's could have knocked us out for eight bucks.
tim pool
It's like right there.
Yeah, but I mean, do you want to eat cardboard?
tate brown
I don't want to spend $30.
tim pool
The CEO doesn't even want to eat their food.
tate brown
Oh, I know.
Look, I'm not necessarily running cover for McDonald's.
You see the local, I'm like literally, I should get a tax write off for McDonald's.
tim pool
I'm sorry, it's disgusting.
blaire white
It's not food.
tim pool
It's disgusting.
I don't get it.
I've never liked it.
It's literally disgusting.
Wendy's, on the other hand.
blaire white
Wendy's is the best.
tim pool
It's the best.
tate brown
This is great.
tim pool
But it used to be better back in the day when Dave Thomas was still around.
Burger, you know, I don't mind Burger King, but you got to stay away from their chicken.
unidentified
Really?
tate brown
Well, it's not in the name.
tim pool
I don't even know what it is.
More like, yeah, I don't go anywhere.
blaire white
Can they find a human in McDonald's meat?
tim pool
I don't know that that's true.
blaire white
Is that a.
tim pool
That must not be true.
unidentified
No.
tate brown
I mean, it works.
tim pool
That is a.
You're going to get a cease and desist from their lawyer kind of statement.
blaire white
Shout out to McDonald's.
I don't mean that as a statement of fact.
However, I have heard a lot.
tate brown
Yeah, you're saying it tastes so human.
Like, this is what humans love.
This is meant for the human palate.
unidentified
Right?
Sure.
tate brown
I'm your lawyer here.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
It's not a human eye.
That was raccoon meat.
tate brown
You know?
Ew.
tim pool
You guys don't know the reference?
tate brown
I'm a proud McDonald's defender.
I've been saying for years, and I mean no malice with this, but I am like a goy slop guardian.
Like, I do believe that actually this low, kind of like this low, low brow food is actually some of the best cuisine on planet Earth, where you can reliably get the best burger in town typically at a McDonald's.
And I fully believe that.
blaire white
Oh, God.
unidentified
Fully believe that.
The big art.
blaire white
Wendy's maybe, if you were a little high.
unidentified
Oh, I have.
tim pool
You liked it?
tate brown
Oh, I loved it.
brett dasovic
It's also like designed to make you hungry again.
Yeah, after you eat it.
Like if you eat McDonald's, like if you break it and you don't eat it for like six months and then you eat it, you're like, why do I want it again?
tim pool
The marvel of the food.
I was watching a video about it.
They said that McDonald's formulated the proper balance of salts and fats and sugars so that when you eat it, you are not satisfied.
tate brown
That's what people like to say about Dasani where it has a bit of sodium, so you got to drink more.
And I just tipped the hat.
I'm like, fair play.
brett dasovic
No, forget me.
tim pool
The guy who makes like, yeah, we're doing nicotine water next.
unidentified
Oh.
brett dasovic
The scientist.
tate brown
Nicotine Big Arch?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Scientists, Zen, and McDonald's together at last.
tate brown
Can you just put nicotine in food and just keep people addicted to it?
You should just do that.
phil labonte
Look, Marlboro's are the superior nicotine delivery.
brett dasovic
There was the video of the guy who works for Pringles who said they purposely made the chips so that it breaks in a way that makes you hungrier.
unidentified
Genius.
brett dasovic
Like when it doesn't feel like you're eating anything, so you keep eating because it breaks funny.
tate brown
RFK, I have.
Alt in the operation, let these guys cook.
This is genius.
brett dasovic
We should be putting our tax dollars right here.
tate brown
Yeah.
How do we make this?
tim pool
I got to tell you, man.
The back in the day, going to Wendy's, I'm looking up their value menu.
It used to be called the dollar menu.
Remember the dollar menu?
It's not a thing anymore.
It's not a thing anymore.
unidentified
Of course.
They would change their fries to be worse, I think.
tim pool
The double stack, bro.
That was it.
We'd panhandle, be like, can I have some change from some old lady?
I'm hungry.
And she'd be like, what are you going to do?
I'm going to get a double cheeseburger.
Then she'd give me some change.
I'd go to Wendy's and it'd be like, bang, $1.8, one double stack.
And you know what I would do?
I would be like, I would like extra lettuce and tomato.
What's the most you can give me?
And the guy would look at me and be like, I don't know.
How much do you want?
And I was like, 15?
He's like, You want 15 tomatoes?
And I'm like, If it's free, because then it's cheap.
You don't got to spend any money, you know?
brett dasovic
You got like we at salad with Wendy's.
It was still at the table with veggies.
Like you got, like everybody got Wendy's one time and there was no double stacks.
It was all these disgusting junior bacon cheeseburgers.
tim pool
Bro, I am ordering Wendy's tomorrow.
Ireland Immigration and MAGA Coalitions 00:08:58
tim pool
We are, no, wait.
The cheeseburger is 99 cents.
Are you kidding me?
phil labonte
McDonald's?
Right, Wendy.
tim pool
Krispy chicken sandwich is a dollar.
And the junior hamburger and junior cheeseburger are both dollar.
That's impressive.
I like Wendy's.
Honestly, I haven't eaten any of this, I haven't had fast food in so long.
What was the light?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I take it back.
I eat Taco Bell a lot.
unidentified
There you go.
Oh, bro.
tim pool
We go Taco Bell crazy here.
unidentified
Taco Bell.
brett dasovic
He just did that like last week.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Like anytime my wife has like an errand to run, I'm like, I guess I have no choice.
Gotta have dinner.
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unidentified
No.
tim pool
Well, all right.
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tate brown
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We discussed the Catholic, e Catholic, correction, e Catholic crash out today.
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But it was interesting.
We discussed the report that apparently Trump was about to invade the Vatican.
It didn't quite ferment that way.
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unidentified
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tim pool
We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in a few seconds.
thanks for hanging out
hey so ireland is revolting against what like mass migration I think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the IDF has been deployed.
The IDF.
phil labonte
The Irish Defense Force?
tim pool
The Irish Defense Force is actually what they're called.
And BBC changed the headline, I think, because people were like, huh?
unidentified
Why are you sending the Jews?
tim pool
Yeah, apparently people are saying that Ireland is revolting against the globalists, but it looks like, what, like probably several hundred people, maybe, maybe a few thousand?
phil labonte
I've seen, yeah, a few thousand.
I've seen a bunch of buses blocking the highway.
I've seen a bunch of tractors blocking one of the Ports or something like that.
I don't know how many people it is, but there's a lot, there's been a lot of immigrants put into Ireland.
And it's crazy when you see like a black guy and they're like, oh, he's Irish.
It's like, he's not Irish.
Like, no offense to anybody, but like, you, you, it's okay to say that Irish people are Irish and people that live in Ireland, like, they may be citizens, but they're not Irish.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Like, that's, it's, it's the word games that the left plays because of immigration.
Like, it's very, very dumb.
tim pool
Because they are, uh, Colonizers, they don't believe in indigenous rights.
Yeah, no, I support the indigenous.
If they're white, if they're white, and only if they're white.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, the same thing, you know, when it's like some dude from Somalia or from somewhere in Africa, and they're like, Oh, he's a Swedish guy, it's like, This is a Maryland man, yeah, Maryland man.
tim pool
Yeah, the IDF has been deployed in Ireland.
tate brown
Good, they've been mouthing off about the Brits a little too long.
tim pool
Israel, Israel's finally the Irish defense forces.
tate brown
Oh, I have zero opinion.
tim pool
Well, so apparently, the story is that they're revolting against, uh, they're revolting.
They just, you know, they don't take care of themselves.
They don't eat.
They're revolting.
unidentified
They are.
tate brown
They are so true.
I second Ben Franklin's sort of take on the Irish.
No, we love the Irish.
Our Irish friends, they're humans.
tim pool
They're humans?
unidentified
Yeah.
They've got that going for them.
I'm kidding.
tate brown
I'm kidding.
They're part of the MAGA coalition.
No, Ireland's a really weird case in Western Europe.
I've always long maintained the position that the first place things are going to truly pop off, so to speak, will be Ireland because Ireland is the only country in Western Europe that had kinetic conflict in recent memory.
Like up until 1997, they had.
Actual kinetic conflict until the Good Friday Agreement in 1997, obviously fighting the British.
In addition to that, Ireland has the youngest population in Western Europe.
And in addition to that, they don't have a right wing party.
They have two left wing parties, one center left and one is actually left wing.
So this is a country that is familiar with kinetic conflict, has a young population, a terrible economy.
I mean, I know they have the highest GDP per capita in the EU, but the reason for that is primarily because they have like tax breaks for companies like Microsoft, Apple, et cetera.
A lot of them are actually headquartered in Ireland.
None of that's trickling down to the Irish population.
They have Ridiculous mass migration, like probably the most egregious cases of mass migration scamming going on in the world.
So, all of this is just a recipe for disaster.
So, this kind of stuff, quite frankly, is actually kind of tame compared to what we were seeing in Ireland last year, where they were literally burning down migrant hotels.
The year before that, we saw like full blown riots in Dublin.
So, Ireland really feels like a powder keg.
And, like I said, with all those contributing factors, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ireland be the first place to truly chimp out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Chimp out.
You heard it here first.
phil labonte
As opposed to what is it, the Uganda, where the chimps are chimpering.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It could be some chimps have been chimping out for a minute, apparently.
tate brown
Because it's this really funny thing about Irish leftists where they like chess beat over, they shadow box where they like pretend like the crown is still like a relevant opposing force in any single, like any way.
And then also they will rail on like unionist Protestants in Northern Ireland while simultaneously battery farming like the entire third world.
So it's like, okay, so your genetic cousins are your enemy, but like people from.
Pakistan, India, Nigeria are like suddenly the left.
They're Irish because they have a passport.
It's like the most ridiculous thing.
phil labonte
Left wing minded.
tim pool
It was three months, but they got a passport.
tate brown
Those orange men up across the border, though, that's the problem because they disagree on transubstantiation.
phil labonte
That was one of the things that I was talking about before you came in.
It's like, it's ridiculous the way they talk about immigrants into Ireland.
It's like the black guy, and he's like, oh, he's an Irishman.
It's like, come on, he's not Irish.
tate brown
And again, it's the most egregious case because Ireland literally has a.
The sole reason Ireland exists is because of nationalism.
unidentified
This is.
tate brown
A nation state that had to really fight for their independence in a lot of ways.
And that makes them unique in Western Europe.
So the fact that they have a very strong self identity, but are watering it down now because of mass migration is really egregious.
And so, again, they don't have an outlet for the right.
So, usually, like in the UK, the US.
phil labonte
What would Conor McGregor say, right?
tate brown
Well, this is.
phil labonte
You ran for president, right?
tate brown
The reason Conor McGregor is running for office or considering running for office is kind of unclear is because there is no right wing party in Ireland.
So, in Germany, UK, US, the right wing party operates as like a siphon, a release valve for pressure.
Ireland doesn't have a release pressure, a valve to release pressure because they don't have a right wing party.
So, people that are right wing in Ireland literally feel like they have no representation, no outlet whatsoever.
So, that's why you typically see riots in Ireland quite often is because they don't have any outlet for their anger or their disagreement, disagreements with the Irish government broadly.
So, that's why Conor McGregor's even thinking about running and why he's even viable as a political figure is because there's no one else.
There's no right wing party for him to operate in.
Granted, he got a little confused.
He ran for a president when the president's mostly a ceremonial figure in Ireland.
He should have ran for prime minister, but, uh, You know, maybe, maybe there's something, uh, something to be said about being the ceremonial president of Ireland or just saying you're running so it sounds good for Americans because you're doing something, I guess.
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unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
He did the podcast circuit here and then like didn't actually like fill out paperwork to run.
Um, so I don't know if I'd be like fully backing Conor McGregor.
He's kind of let me down on some of the bureaucratic prerequisites.
brett dasovic
I prefer them to be able to at least fill out the bare minimum.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
Maybe we can get together like election documents first, but I like Conor McGregor.
I think he's, uh, he's fun.
Yeah.
He kind of represents like, uh, sort of that.
Phenotype of vitality that exists among the Irish and the British that's long gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
I dig it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, let's see what the callers have to say.
We got Brian, Major Threat, who is here.
phil labonte
Brian, how are you doing, homie?
brian major threat in unknown
Oh, hey.
Thanks for having me on again.
I'm used to going last in the call in order.
So it's kind of.
phil labonte
We can make that happen if you want.
tim pool
Let me press mute.
brian major threat in unknown
No, no, I'm fine.
Listen, I've got a working theory going on here that the reason why Muslim countries are so violent and Muslim men in particular are so violent. Is because of repressed homosexuality.
tim pool
Well, I think it's because they marry their cousins.
phil labonte
I think it's because the Quran talks about being violent a lot.
Like, Muhammad was very violent and he did a lot of head cutting off and all kinds of that.
brian major threat in unknown
He was also raped by Al Zut.
phil labonte
I don't know anything about that.
blaire white
I think you're right, though.
I think you're right.
tim pool
Well, I think they marry their cousins and it creates a low IQ population.
blaire white
It's just repressed sexuality in general, it comes out in crazy ways.
tim pool
And they got sand in their ass cracks.
brian major threat in unknown
Or like the predator feed I used to watch when I was in Afghanistan of guys out in the field having relations with goats.
unidentified
What?
brian major threat in unknown
And other livestock.
unidentified
Yep.
brian major threat in unknown
Oh.
No, that's a thing.
phil labonte
Yeah, I've heard horrible stories.
blaire white
The Amish do that too, which is really depressing.
tim pool
They bang goats?
blaire white
Apparently it's pretty common in Harvard.
tim pool
We've got Amish all over here.
I've never seen anything like that.
blaire white
Well, they probably don't do it out in the open.
tim pool
No, but I'm saying that no one talks about it, no one says anything like that.
They got nice little farm shops, and everyone buys from them.
brett dasovic
Look, what the Amish do in the privacy of their own home is their own business.
tim pool
Everybody loves the Amish out here, man.
There's a shop by the castle.
The best fucking meat.
Real Amish.
blaire white
I love Amish.
tim pool
Raw milk.
They give you a jar of, like, it says raw milk, not for human consumption.
And people will just drink it like some kind of animal.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know for sure.
I don't know for sure, but I've heard that the stuff that you saw in Afghanistan isn't.
Ubiquitous with Islam so much as it is normal with the tribal people out there because they're.
brian major threat in unknown
Yeah, a lot of people talk about the brakabatsi, which is the things they do with little boys.
phil labonte
Yeah.
brian major threat in unknown
That's mainly a Pashtun thing.
phil labonte
Yeah, you don't see that.
The kingdom's not putting up with that, right?
They're importing hookers from Indonesia into Saudi Arabia and Dubai and UAE.
unidentified
So.
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