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April 8, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Iran Says Israel VIOLATED Trump CEASEFIRE, White House DENIES Report | Timcast IRL

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adam francisco
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ian crossland
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phil labonte
40:54
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tim pool
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carter banks
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lawrence odonnell
msnow 00:41
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Conflicting Ceasefire Reports 00:14:43
tim pool
We've got conflicting reports on the state of the ceasefire in the Iran war.
The White House is saying the strait is open.
If it were to be closed, that would be unacceptable.
However, reports coming from Iran are that because Israel launched attacks on Lebanon, this violates the terms of the ceasefire and they would be closing the Strait of Hormuz.
Again, the White House countered, saying this is not correct.
They have not closed the strait.
But what I can say is rest assured, prominent personalities on X, be it liberal or I guess conservative, are cheering for the failure of Trump's ceasefire because they To actually want the war, I guess.
I mean, hey, if it bleeds, it leads.
And if you're in commentary, there's a lot of money to be made complaining about something.
You know what I think it really is?
When woke basically got crushed and swept under the rug, there was nothing to complain about anymore.
So the grifters needed something to complain about, started complaining about Trump.
So now they're happy to see the ceasefire break down and war erupt because then they can complain about something.
Me, let's just hope that this ceasefire does hold, negotiations work out, and then we have an end to the war.
But you know what's really funny is with that being in the news, you got these feminists, they're attacking me, saying Tim Pool is coping by saying, oh, well, you know, we didn't want the war to happen, but let's just find peace because you should be antagonistic.
These people are all hypocrites.
They're all liars.
We're going to talk about that.
Plus, big news the DOJ has arrested a leaker.
Turns out it was some lady who couldn't keep her mouth shut.
She apparently worked for SOCOM and, over the past several years, according to these reports, was leaking classified information to reporters.
And the response on the internet has been particularly brutal and sexist, you know, saying that women will just keep talking about everything, I guess.
We'll talk about that.
And we got some crazy stories, too.
There's a viral video of a guy setting fire to a warehouse in California, this massive fire, because he said we weren't being paid a living wage.
I call that leftist terrorism, indeed, but we'll talk about that and more.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Adam Francisco.
adam francisco
Hey, guys, nice to meet you, Tim, finally.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
Hey, right on.
adam francisco
I'm excited to be here and I'm excited for a great conversation today.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
adam francisco
My name is Adam Francisco.
I do street content.
I'm a big Donald Trump supporter.
I'm actually wearing his jersey right now, number 47 Donald Trump.
And yeah, I talk about the news and I go out there, hit the streets.
I go to a lot of left wing protests in the MAGA hat and film the reactions, film the meltdowns, and I have a great time doing so.
ian crossland
You were just at the No Kings protest?
adam francisco
Three No Kings in one day.
unidentified
Wow.
adam francisco
95 degree day in Florida.
It was hot.
As the day went on, the liberals got more and more crazy.
tim pool
But the protests worked because there's no kings.
adam francisco
It worked.
tim pool
They're not anywhere around.
adam francisco
Great job, Democrats.
ian crossland
They just killed it, preempted it.
tim pool
We got Ian hanging out with us.
unidentified
Hi, everybody.
ian crossland
Happy to be here.
tim pool
Carter's pressing the buttons.
carter banks
What's up, man?
Thanks for coming.
tim pool
And Phil is rocking out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
tim pool
Let's jump to the news.
We got this from ABC.
Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz in jeopardy after Israeli attack on Lebanon.
Reopening the Strait was a major part of the U.S. Iran ceasefire agreement.
They say just after Heg Seth and General Dan Kane, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Wednesday the Strait of Hormuz had reopened, Iran said it had closed the passage and accused Israel of violating the deal.
A major part of the two week ceasefire agreement reached Tuesday night, just hours before Trump's deadline to respond to his threat.
We get it.
You're like, ABC, you don't need to add that stupid waste of words.
These are wasted words, right?
Just tell us the news.
Anyway, requires Iran to reopen the vital passage for trade and oil to international shipping before peace talks can begin.
But after allowing a handful of ships, including two oil tankers, to pass through the strait, Iran said it closed the strait, accusing Israel of violating the ceasefire by launching a major attack on Lebanon, Iran's far news agency.
Which is affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard or Corps reported.
Now, the White House was asked about this, and Time Magazine reports White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levin on Wednesday disputed reports that Iran had closed the Strait of Hormuz hours into a fragile ceasefire with the U.S., but said any effort by Iran to stop maritime traffic would be completely unacceptable.
Levin addressed reporters soon after Iranian state media had reported that the Strait had been closed in response to attacks by Israel against the Hezbollah militant group in Lebanon.
So, this is interesting.
I'm going to say, obviously, we are begging that this ceasefire holds because we don't want war, right?
We want peace.
And the ongoing theme so far has been just a bunch of anti Trump people who are conservative or liberal seemingly cheering for the ceasefire to break.
The moment this news comes out, what do you get?
All of these libs being like, ha ha, told you so, ha.
Why don't you help?
Like, what is what you are doing beneficial in any way to the efforts to stop this conflict?
ian crossland
It's like people.
That are so obsessed with their football team that they feel the vitriol and the love so intensely that they forget about, yo, this whole league could end tomorrow.
Like, your games mean nothing in the big grand scheme of things.
This piece, this is everything.
phil labonte
So, wait, what are you saying?
ian crossland
The people that are acting like Trump, bad, good, I'm on this side, I'm on that side, are like sports fans when the whole fucking league could fall apart.
tim pool
Language.
ian crossland
Thank you.
Thank you.
But just get your head out of the dirt and look around at what we really need to do as a human species right now.
It has nothing to do with Donald Trump.
He's just a piece of the puzzle.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, it is good that, well, if we can get the war to end, that is an undeniable good, right?
Stop dropping bombs, stop shooting missiles.
And I think, at least for the U.S.'s part, we have held to, we as in the United States have held to our part of the bargain.
I don't think that we can make Iran stop shooting missiles at Israel or Israel stop shooting missiles at Iran.
But like I said, for our part, we're like, look, there is a ceasefire between us and Iran.
And as long as.
Iran isn't shooting at U.S. bases and Americans aren't shooting at Iran.
We're doing our part to stop it.
tim pool
Well, then Israel's jeopardizing everything we're doing.
Iran's attitude is you're providing the weapons and resources to them.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, that's always the situation, though.
It's like people expect the United States to be able to tell Israel what to do before they say that Israel is actually.
tim pool
Right, we get it.
Then the end result is simple Iran has to be flattened.
If Iran is telling the United States that we are responsible for what everyone else is doing, then these people can't be negotiated with.
So if that's the case, but look, Iran's going to say, bring Israel to heel, get them to stop bombing Lebanon.
Trump needs to state publicly, we have nothing to do with Israel.
That's what he should be saying right now.
Otherwise, there's going to be war with Iran.
phil labonte
The more daylight there is between the U.S. and Israel since the ceasefire, I actually think that that's better for the U.S. because just like Tim said, Iran is going to continue to say that it's the U.S.'s fault that Israel is doing these things.
Even though Iran was shooting missiles at Israel right after the ceasefire started yesterday, and Israel was shooting missiles at Hezbollah in Lebanon, they're going to blame Israel.
tim pool
But that does happen after there's public announcements because they have to go to bases and give them orders.
And people wonder why it is.
They're like, we had a ceasefire.
Why are they still shooting?
Because when a prime minister or president says on TV, a thing is happening, the orders have to go through the chain of command to the base and say, hey guys, okay, we're canceling this operation.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So you'll still see strikes.
ian crossland
My deep fear over the last six years, and I don't talk about it a lot because I don't want to project fear, you know, is that.
unidentified
Is it dark?
ian crossland
It's the fear of the dark.
I'm still, that's why I'm wearing these sunglasses.
I'm terrified right now, Phil.
carter banks
Is that, you got those?
ian crossland
The people will distance themselves from Israel to a point that Israel becomes kind of on an island of aggression and then the whole world tries to stop them and they initiate thermonuclear war.
tim pool
They won't be able to.
Israel's the size of New Jersey.
They're not going to war with the world.
This is mind blowing me, dude.
Israel is not that powerful.
I'm actually not trying to rag on Israel with that statement, but they're the size of New Jersey and they are a conflicted state within themselves.
You've got settlers in the West Bank, you've got the Al Qassam Brigades, you've got Hamas in Gaza.
Israel's busy dealing with its own borders.
They're not going to war with anybody.
ian crossland
Not right now, but it's a long thing.
I'm like, wow, this is the whole don't become the demon you're trying to destroy.
Don't build this up so much that all of a sudden Israel is at a breaking point.
Like, for whatever reason, they do feel I don't know.
I don't want to speak for the people of Israel.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, there are the Abraham Accords, and there have been efforts to kind of normalize relations between Israel and most of the other countries in the Middle East.
And that's a positive step.
I don't see, you know, you don't see Israel basically getting into drawn out conflicts with other countries.
It's just Iran.
ian crossland
And Lebanon?
phil labonte
They said they're not going to get over a peace agreement.
The conflict in Lebanon is not about Lebanon, it's about Hezbollah.
And Hezbollah is funded by Iran.
ian crossland
So, they said they're going to occupy a piece of Lebanon to prevent Hezbollah from attacking.
And it's similar to if the cartels were hitting us from Mexico and we went in and occupied, I'd be okay with it.
Like, yo, bro, control your militia or we're going to control it for you.
phil labonte
Well, I don't know that Lebanon can control Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is.
tim pool
Hezbollah is.
They control it.
They control Lebanon.
phil labonte
Well, but what I'm saying is Hezbollah is not like Hamas, right?
Hamas is very, very.
You know, they've been.
They were.
They're like a really small potatoes kind of terrorist group.
Hezbollah is a serious militia with serious equipment because.
Iran has been sending them equipment.
So I don't know that Lebanon can actually control them the way that we're saying here.
And I think if they could, they would because Lebanon doesn't want Israel to take a part of Lebanon.
ian crossland
And if the Mexicans could control the cartels, maybe we'll see a future where that happens.
But if they can't, it's a very similar thing.
This is a warning to you, Mexico.
And it's not like I want this to happen.
But if you don't control your country.
tim pool
Canada too, huh?
ian crossland
You know, insurgencies, someone else will.
tim pool
I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I love poutine and I love tacos.
And so if the U.S. has to take Canada and Mexico.
ian crossland
Tacos with gravy and curds.
tim pool
I mean, that's mixing it all together.
Well, to be fair, have you ever gone to Montreal and had a variety of a sampling of their poutine?
ian crossland
No, but I worked at a Montreal, at a Canadian restaurant called Dusty's in Los Angeles, and the poutine is spectacular.
Oh, that's fake.
Oh, no, they were right from Montreal.
They came in from France.
tim pool
This is fake.
ian crossland
It's French fries with cheese, curds, and gravy.
tim pool
He's wrong.
He's never actually experienced this.
Tell me more.
So in Canada, poutine is it's like saying poutine is fries with cheese and gravy is like saying pizza is bread, sauce, and cheese.
unidentified
It's curds.
I get it.
tim pool
Everybody knows that when you order pizza, you can get pineapple, you can get spinach, you can get garlic, you can get stuffed crust, you can get double decker, deep dish.
You go to the restaurants in Montreal for poutine, and they've got like 15 different things.
Oh, that's right.
ian crossland
Yeah, garlic, poutine.
tim pool
And we have to take it.
We have no choice.
ian crossland
We can take the IP.
tim pool
And they've got great maple syrup.
You get breakfast up there, they got maple syrup up there.
And we have to.
We have no choice.
ian crossland
It's not like I want to conquer Mexico.
I'm just saying if they didn't kill the militia, I don't want to.
unidentified
I don't want to.
ian crossland
Who am I to conquer, to oversee the conquering of hostile territories?
carter banks
Oh, of course.
tim pool
When I tweeted out, why shouldn't we conquer Canada, Mexico?
BuzzFeed wrote it up like it was real.
This is the world we live in.
No one is serious.
No one is actually talking about what it means to be at war with Iran.
No one actually cares.
And I'm sitting here being like, we got people in the chat being like, Israel runs the world.
Sure, I guess.
Are you going to click the like button now because I said that?
Give me your money.
Why should I be the only one trying to be honest?
phil labonte
About what?
Well, I mean, I think it's silly to say that Israel controls the United States, that the U.S. is a client state of Israel.
That's pretty ridiculous.
The U.S. does have, in my opinion, a too close relationship with Israel.
Israel is a problem child in the Middle East.
And like I said, the more daylight you can put between the U.S. and Israel right now, I think the better it is.
tim pool
What does that mean, daylight?
phil labonte
The more we can have a separation of the U.S. and Israel.
tim pool
Well, they're going to have to have some formal policy on that one because so long as Trump.
And Rubio keeps saying, like, we're just working with Israel on this, then Iran is going to blame the U.S. when Israel launches.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that having some kind of foreign policy on it is fine.
Look, I've been saying that we should end foreign aid to Israel, and that basically means ending weapons.
Basically, the foreign aid that goes to Israel is in the form of weapons.
So, I think that we should stop doing it.
That's been my position forever.
I think we should end all foreign aid, personally, but I think we should end foreign aid to Israel.
I don't see why we have to basically do what, you know, be drawn into wars that Israel wants.
You know, I do think that Iran is a problem.
tim pool
But we want war with Iran too.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I guess I suppose the United States does want the U.S. government, but I don't know.
tim pool
The U.S. government is why the conflict is in the region.
Like our meddling in the Middle East, the 1979 revolution, our support for the Shah, all of these things.
This is the U.S. foreign policy.
They have wanted this.
We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan not because of any stupid nebulous reason, but because we built military bases along the border of Iran.
Avoiding Unwanted Wars 00:15:26
phil labonte
Yeah, but we went to Iraq because I think, honestly, because George Bush had a personal vendetta against us.
tim pool
But that's silly, right?
The idea that world leaders do things like comic book villains or it's one dimension is silly.
No, I'm not saying it's one dimension.
When you look back the past 30 years and you see a Through line for all of the American foreign policy.
And you conclude we went to Iraq the first time and the second time.
phil labonte
You could go by just looking at all the UN resolutions against Iraq to justify the US going into Iraq in the aughts.
There was all of the time that Iraq was targeting US planes over the no fly zone, the North and South no fly zone after the first Gulf War.
There was all kinds of stuff that.
tim pool
Saddam wanted to trade gold and euro.
He wanted to break the petrodollar.
phil labonte
Yeah, but I'm just talking about the stuff that was.
Obvious violations of U.S. resolutions that Iraq broke, right?
Like Iraq's, there was plenty of legal justification.
Whether or not you believe the whole yellow cake uranium stuff, whether you believe the weapons of mass destruction, there was enough justification where you could make the argument, right?
And I'm not saying that I agree with it.
I'm not saying that we should have.
I'm not saying it was a good idea.
But I'm telling you that the argument, the legal argument was there to go into Iraq, you know?
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from MS Now.
And take a look at what these psychopathic crackpots are saying.
Oh boy, this one is going to blow your mind when you hear what Lawrence O'Donnell says.
lawrence odonnell
It could not be more tragically clear now that a whole civilization has already died.
The whole civilization beginning with the model of the British Parliament leading to the first independent American government formed under the Articles of Confederation followed by the Constitution that wrote the presidency into existence and nearly 250 years of the American presidency, all of that, that whole civilization forming the presidency died.
With the elevation of Donald Trump to the presidency a second time.
tim pool
You know, I don't want to strike a person.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
But anyway, I want to subdue them with my words.
That guy is so cheap.
tim pool
Trump retreats again.
The American civilization has already ended.
This, oh, I'm not going to swear.
These people are evil.
And I got to be honest, I really am at my wits' end for all of these people on the left and the right.
That no matter what Trump does, it's wrong.
MS Now is now demanding war with Iran.
They are now attacking Donald Trump for retreating.
Lawrence O'Donnell wants Trump to bomb Iran.
And of course, that's what these people have always wanted.
They are liars and manipulators.
And I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, right?
Are we the only ones who are literally like, hey, how do we not have a war?
You've got Trump supporters who said, good for the war the whole time.
I'm standing with my president.
Then you had Tucker Carlson and others.
Candace Owens being like, Trump's gone crazy.
This is wrong.
The left has said, See, we told you so.
Then Trump says, Okay, no war.
And they go, What a pussy.
What a loser.
And Lawrence O'Donnell says, Oh, he's retreating again.
I'm done.
None of this is real.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's not.
tim pool
There's no political discourse in this country anymore.
It's a bunch of effing retards.
ian crossland
This is an insurgency, is what I thought while this guy was talking.
There's an insurgency in our country that's co opted the corporate media, some of the corporate media.
This guy, whether he realizes it or not, is trying to scare people into overthrowing the U.S. government.
He had a fake talk like this, like he was Walter Cronkite.
He did a word salad and then tried to scare people about whatever his talking points are, what he's become to believe.
It's like if you're surrounded by people that have a brain parasite, it's not their body, it's not them that's the problem, it's what their body's doing.
And like you don't want to destroy the parasitic human, you want to extract the parasite.
That's why I said, I don't want to strike this guy.
You know, you want to help him.
tim pool
I was being serious.
I don't want to strike people.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't either.
I want to help them.
tim pool
This is evil.
But now we're seeing it from.
Right wing personalities, all the same.
They're doing the exact same thing.
They're posting taco.
Okay, guys, you are unserious people.
And, you know, when I see this stuff, it makes me really respect the Democrats because I've said it before, but the Democrats get it.
The Democrats think people are so stupid they can't govern themselves, so you're better off just manipulating them.
And then you see what people do with their freedom of speech, and you get the likes of these conservatives being like, ha ha, Trump's a chicken.
Bro, you just spent the past month.
Attacking him for going to war in Iran.
Now you're attacking him for not going to war in Iran.
You're saying literally the same thing as MS Now.
You're all the same.
You're all Trump derangement syndrome lunatics.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think it is real.
adam francisco
So I made a post yesterday at around, I don't know, 7 15 p.m. when the news kind of broke about the ceasefire.
Let me tell you something, guys.
I was so happy to hear that there was a ceasefire between the US and Iran because I don't like war.
I know with war, there's, you know, civilians get killed and people die.
And the first comments that I got on my Facebook page were from Trump deranged lunatics posting tacos and chickens and saying, once again, Trump chickened out.
And I'm like, what exactly did you want him to do here?
phil labonte
Okay, no, none of it's just you.
adam francisco
If you followed through at 8 p.m. and destroyed a civilization, quote unquote, you would have been happy.
No, you still would have been mad.
So nothing Trump can do will make these people happy.
There's nothing he can do.
tim pool
Well, it's because they're retarded.
phil labonte
It's just, but it's just the point is like, it doesn't matter what happens.
It's just counter Trump.
Like, whatever Trump does, whatever way they can criticize Trump, they're going to do it.
So the fact that the fact is they're not honest, this isn't about any kind of deeply held beliefs or being anti war or whatever.
It's just, okay.
We can use this as a vector of attack against Donald Trump.
ian crossland
Anybody out there that is a war aficionado enjoys tactics, you know, and anyone else that doesn't, that surrender and retreat are not the same thing.
To win a war, you retreat many times and you reposition.
tim pool
I always, but sometimes.
ian crossland
It is most likely prepare to retreat many times to a better position to win your war.
It's similar with folding and poker.
You have to know when to pull back.
He did a bloviating threat that seemed to strike some fear into some people to wake them up.
The problem with him, and this is a double edged sword, he's wonderful at intimidating.
So, the world is on their knees, basically, but the domestic population is terrified of this guy.
So, that's the problem we have to face.
You got to assuage the public.
He's not really crazy talking to Bill Maher about it.
tim pool
I don't think anybody's actually afraid of him.
I think that what we are clearly seeing, the likes of Lawrence O'Donnell, is I imagine this man walked into his production meeting and says, How are we going to lie about Trump today?
And they were like, Let's attack him for retreating from the war.
Now we're for the war because he's against it.
Guys, I got to be honest.
When we talked about Donald Trump holding his, you know, saying auction is good to force Democrats to hold their breath, that was a joke.
But I'm actually convinced they'd do it right now.
If Donald Trump came out and said, I want everybody to take a big, deep breath, breathe in that big, beautiful oxygen, and live healthy, everybody would literally hold their breath.
I think they actually would at this point.
Lawrence O'Donnell would go on TV and say, No, Trump, you can't tell me what to do.
I'll hold my breath all night.
I swear to God.
ian crossland
Maybe it's like this is the phase of human evolution where people, when they think something is bad, that means that everything else they do is also bad.
tim pool
I think Trump should do it.
I think Trump should come out and tell everyone to take a big, deep breath.
ian crossland
It comes from like our ancient past where the only way you could trust someone is at their word.
And if they betray you at their word, then you think they're a liar forever and you have to live that way.
And now, but Trump's like F's with people.
He messes with people on purpose in business.
It's a huge part of winning in business.
tim pool
I figured it out.
I figured it out.
The war's not over.
Trump did this on purpose.
So now that all of the people attacked him for saying he's retreating, he can come out and be like, I saw Lawrence O'Donnell the other day.
unidentified
He said, I shouldn't retreat.
tim pool
Lawrence, I don't want to, but you're right.
I'm going to nuke him.
Thanks for the advice.
And then Lawrence and I'll be like, no, don't.
I'll be like, well, which one is it?
If, here's the thing, I'm half kidding.
If Trump knew, and he does know that this war is unpopular, that independents are breaking, he says, okay, no war.
And instantly you get all of these people saying, oh, he's a taco.
Okay, then Trump can come out and be like, Trump can give a press conference and say, when I called for a ceasefire, I was surprised to find that I was heavily criticized by both liberals and conservatives for choosing peace.
Well, To the American people, your voice has been heard.
We are restarting strikes on Iran effective immediately.
Thank you for your concern.
unidentified
Crazy.
Yeah.
ian crossland
And he won't do that.
Thank God.
tim pool
I wish he would at this point.
I'm not saying to actually go to war, but just say it.
Just be like, okay, you convinced me.
ian crossland
My take on the Iranians, right, on the Persians, I'm going to start referring to them as Persians because they are Persian as well, is that we obliterated 140 of their top radical leaders.
And now this young, whoever is in charge now, is like trolling Donald Trump on Twitter.
He's like, hey, 8 p.m. Final call.
If 8 p.m., that's the last chance.
And they're like, how about their responses?
How about 1 to 2 p.m. in the afternoon?
How about 1 to 2 in the morning?
tim pool
I don't think so.
I have a conspiracy theory that.
I think the Trump admin made contact, Israel probably made contact with Iranian officials who wanted normalization because, bro, nobody wants to fight.
People want to be rich.
People want to have nice cars.
They want to be comfortable.
They want their kids to be fed.
Iran is choosing to go to war over ideology.
I guarantee you there were people in government who were like, we want to sell the oil that we have.
We want to build libraries, go to the movies.
We want to have good food.
And the Trump administration said, how do we get you guys in charge?
And they're like, well, you can't.
There's 40 people above us.
And he's like, we'll kill them all.
So they go and they bomb and they wipe out the entire structure of their government.
These guys come and take over, and now Trump negotiates.
These people cannot come out and just say, We've given up, we surrender, because you still have 90 million people, of which a third are IRGC ideologically motivated.
So they come out and say, We won't let the country fall.
Trust us.
We're going to cut a deal and we're going to win.
And now that means both sides need to say they've won something.
But look at what the story is right now the Strait of Hormuz will have a toll.
That the US and Iran will share.
That's the preliminary report that may occur.
This means that the United States is going to get 50 cents per barrel from every Gulf nation that ships that out through the Strait of Hormuz.
That sounds like Trump won.
That sounds like Trump is getting a tariff on oil from other countries in their part of the world.
ian crossland
He's also setting up a trade deal with the Iranian people, which is huge.
tim pool
Indeed.
And people are saying this is going to give Iran billions of dollars per year.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And if he eradicated the fundamentalist government, which he did, I'm not sure that actually matters to Trump anymore, especially when he's getting the other half of the billion.
ian crossland
Now, I guess my thoughts are like, let's help de radicalize Israel to the best we can.
I don't know what's going on in Lebanon, but we need to help that situation because if they do lash out in Lebanon, militias, Hezbollah, things like that.
phil labonte
When you say de radicalize, what do you mean by de radicalize?
ian crossland
Make it so people come from a place of peace instead of fear.
That instead of waking up in the morning and be like, oh my God, who's trying to kill me today?
You think of like, how can I help my neighbors?
unidentified
Well, yeah, I get it.
tim pool
Yeah, like the guy who killed Irina Zarutska, we shouldn't be worried about that.
We should let those people out of jail.
ian crossland
But when you're the most powerful government, you get to a point where you can institute prosperity.
phil labonte
So you're saying, oh, make people wake up and not be afraid of like being killed and whatever.
But like they're constantly being, you know, they're constantly barrages of like rockets, whether it be Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran, that are blowing up in Israel all the time.
And then there was the whole attack on October 7th.
Look, you can say that Israel has caused problems and stuff, but you can't just be like, oh, make them stop being afraid when they literally are constantly under attack.
ian crossland
I think we have our civilianry in charge of our military on purpose because we don't live in fear as a civilianry.
The military's in constant fear.
That's their purpose, is to be diligent and fearful and ready to blow things up.
So maybe they could have a civilian government.
tim pool
Got a new government.
phil labonte
They do have a civilian government.
ian crossland
Because the Likud party is pretty militaristic.
phil labonte
I don't know.
Well, I mean, so it's one thing to say something's militaristic, and it's another thing to actually have the military.
It's not a civilian, it's the leader of the military.
Let me finish.
I don't know their structure.
So, I think it's called the kibbutz, is their parliament, basically.
And it's elected officials that maybe some of them have been in the military, but they're not like run by the military.
ian crossland
Well, the metaphor is like when someone's nervous system is on edge in fight or flight for 40 years, good luck asking them to relax overnight.
phil labonte
I get it.
Then what are you saying?
ian crossland
You can relax.
Wait a second.
unidentified
Relax.
phil labonte
Don't worry about it.
tim pool
No, I will tell you this some advice to men out there.
The most important thing you can say to an angry woman who's yelling at you is relax.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
I'm not telling you, Israelis, relax.
I'm saying you can relax.
I understand, though, that it's not a joke.
And if a missile flew over my house, I mean, I'd have a completely different outlook on reality.
carter banks
So I think what you're saying, though, is like if one side does stop, then you can work on the other side, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And if the Iranians are diligently not firing rockets anymore, then that's a good starting point.
phil labonte
I don't know if that's the case, though.
ian crossland
That's the, I mean, so far, I don't think Israel's fired.
Has the Iranians fired on Israel since the ceasefire has begun?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
They fired once.
tim pool
Quite a bit, actually.
The fighting's not stopped.
ian crossland
Do you have a response to the Israelis attacking the Lebanese?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think, yes.
I think the.
tim pool
Like that, when the announcement happened, there were still missile exchanges.
Like you said, that's common.
Ceasefire is beginning on Friday, so hopefully we get somewhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
It can coexist, man.
The whole Abrahamic stuff, it's not, we got to come together so we can unify with the other religions.
Cause like Taoism and Buddhism, they're really important.
Okay, but how?
It's like half the planet.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I like, okay, so you're just like, okay, you know, kumbaya and everything.
How do you get the Muslims and the Jews to come together and live in peace?
ian crossland
I think if you focus on the spirit itself and what it is and like the physical.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
ian crossland
Is that something everyone can agree on?
tim pool
What we do is, I don't know.
We tell all the Jews that we are having a lock in at the rec center.
And then we tell all the Muslims we're having a lock in at the rec center, but we don't tell them that they're both coming.
Then when they both shut, you lock the doors and they have to learn how to get along.
phil labonte
And what we'll do is we'll play Never, what is it?
Never mind the Zohan or whatever.
The Adam Sandler movie.
Don't forget the Zohan or whatever.
Don't mess with the Zohan.
Play that for them.
Because at the end, they all come together and they have a street party.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The Muslims and the Jews have a street party.
phil labonte
Yeah.
In Brooklyn, I think it was.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Did you see that South Park episode where they're like, and then on stage, and it's like the Israeli flag and the.
The Islamic flag, and then they come together and it's VH, it's Van Halen, and they're like, Yeah, there you go.
Van Halen concert, and they're all screaming.
phil labonte
Van Halen can bring people together, the best party band of all time.
Men's Nature and Women 00:15:49
tim pool
All right, let's jump to this next story from W. Rowell, Army veteran charged with leaking classified Delta IV secrets to journalists.
It turns out some lady, and it was fun.
Andrew Branca was like, Please no, please don't be a woman.
Indeed, Courtney Williams, 40 was arrested Wednesday in connection with her alleged transmission of classified national defense information to individuals not authorized to receive it.
Including a journalist.
Apparently, between 2022 and 2025, she was speaking via phone about her time working with the elite unit without signing classified information non disclosure agreement when she was hired and fired.
So, not related to the jet, not related to the jet, but this is big news.
They're calling her a leaker.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, if she's giving out classified information, I mean, even talking about anything that Delta's doing is frowned upon.
That kind of information is secret for a reason.
ian crossland
Is this not the girl?
This is not the leaker that leaked the jet stuff, pilot record.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So, what happened was Trump said something to the effect of somebody was leaking information about the rescue operation.
And then some people believed this story was that story.
No, this is about some woman who was in Delta Force and was giving tons of information away to journalists.
We got leakers, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Blabbers.
They got loose lips.
phil labonte
Loose lips sink ships.
adam francisco
What's the motivation, though?
Is it financial, you think, or is it just like, why would she leak?
tim pool
We are a low trust society.
Everybody is egotistical.
It's all about them.
You know, there was that great quote ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
But now it's the other way around.
Ask not what you can do for your country, but how you can extract as much value from it as it burns to the ground.
phil labonte
He said that she was giving info to this guy that wrote a book about alleged drug use and drug trafficking inside.
The special forces and stuff.
So I don't know if she was getting paid by the guy for the information or what, or if she was just like, you know, getting credit or what have you.
But I mean, you know, if you do that kind of stuff, you're going to get arrested.
adam francisco
She's screwed now.
She was indicted, right, by the grand jury.
unidentified
Yep.
adam francisco
I think she's going to be charged with espionage, it looks like.
tim pool
Espionage.
adam francisco
That's pretty bad.
tim pool
She's a leaker.
I don't know about espionage, though.
She was talking to Americans.
ian crossland
What was she like on the phone or via text or something?
tim pool
Yeah, apparently she's having phone calls.
unidentified
Man, what the f.
adam francisco
Yeah, none of that stuff is as private or secret as people think it is.
None of it.
ian crossland
Oh, man, with the age of cryptography, like quantum cryptography, too, people are afraid of a giant.
tim pool
Apparently, get this.
She wanted to homeschool her kids.
And so I'm going to give you the gist.
I never went over my allotted leave time.
I worked tremendous overtime.
I traveled for days and weeks in support of the unit, but it wasn't enough.
That was my breaking point as a woman, as a mother.
I could not stand by one more day while I was discriminated against.
Sexually harassed and assaulted solely due to my gender.
So I stood up, I entered a legal battle, Courtney Williams v. Department of the Army.
It lasted six years.
Guys, Jordan Peterson said he doesn't know.
He did an interview with Vice where he's like, We don't know if like co ed workplaces work.
I don't know if co ed is the right word.
But, and the Vice reporter was like, What do you mean?
And then Jordan Peterson's like, What do you mean?
What do I mean?
It's only been 40 years and it's been a disaster.
And the guy's like, What do you mean a disaster?
He's like, Look at all the lawsuits.
Women are getting harassed like crazy.
They're getting sued.
He was like, This is insane.
Like the amount of conflict in the workplace with men and women, it's incessant.
ian crossland
Someone just told me, he didn't give me the exact number 98% of the women in the military are pregnant or have to do abortion or pregnancy.
Like, I don't know the number.
unidentified
98%?
ian crossland
He gave me some.
He said most of the women in the military end up getting pregnant.
Yeah, I don't know if he was lying to them.
tim pool
And they don't go to work, they get paid, and they get houses.
phil labonte
Fraternization happens, man.
ian crossland
And all that testosterone.
phil labonte
I mean.
adam francisco
By the way, I think you were right about the Jordan Peterson thing.
I remember that.
He was talking about how men and women in their natural state, they're meant to come together and work together and partner up.
But when you put men and women in the workplace, they end up competing with each other.
Which is against our natural kind of instinct.
tim pool
But it's not even that.
It's the fact that you heard what she said.
I'm being discriminated against because she wants to be a mom, but she chose to be a soldier.
It's like you chose to join the army and now you're mad that you can't just raise your kids.
Well, you took a male job, like a male gendered role.
There you go.
You got to do it now.
You were allowed to do it.
That was always a thing, but now do it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think she's property of this.
tim pool
Real quick, it offends me to no end.
Because I tell these stories about how I was in these work meetings, and I'm not going to name the company of the people, but they hire women because they have to.
And then you end up with women sitting at a table like this, and there's someone going, Okay, what's our sales strategy for this weekend?
We got a big event coming up, and we want to sell as much as we can.
Here are the target demographics.
And then one guy says, Here's an idea.
And then people go, That's not a bad idea.
Let's come back to that.
Then the woman goes, I have an idea.
Then says something really stupid, and everyone goes, That's not a good idea.
Then later she goes, Men won't listen to my opinions.
They're always telling me I'm dumb.
Yeah, because they only hired you because you're a woman, okay?
This, this is the problem with DEI hiring.
People feel like they're not being listened to because they're only brought there to check a box.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the whole idea of having gender parity or having to hire people based on their gender or their identity is a terrible idea.
It hurts morale in companies.
You have all kinds of problems.
And this is, I mean, it's basically undeniable now, just like we were talking about earlier.
There's all these lawsuits.
You know, anytime someone feels like they're not getting the attention they deserve, they're always going to base it on their identity.
They're going to say, well, it's because I'm this or it's because I'm that.
So.
I don't know that the solution is something that the American people are going to be able to stomach, but maybe there shouldn't be co ed workplaces, or maybe you should have workplaces where women work.
Maybe Islam has an idea where the women and men need to be separated.
ian crossland
I see where that idea comes from of covering the woman up with a burqa because the male genetics are fine and sweet.
No, no, no.
phil labonte
It's coded into our body.
I'm not saying cover them up.
I'm just saying.
ian crossland
I understand where that mentality comes from.
It's like we need to protect.
Look, men are.
Animals, we are human, we're very visual, and we are programmed to procreate with a lot of women.
Spread the seed is what they call it.
There's a reason you need to protect women against that.
phil labonte
There's a reason why the uh, yes, you're asking men to protect the women.
tim pool
Is that that's that's what you're saying, right?
You want to build a system, you said you think, I said we, right?
So, human race, yes, but who is going to do the physical protecting?
If a guy goes, Oh, a woman, I'm gonna get her, who's gonna stop him?
ian crossland
Yeah, a lady cop, will you allow women to arm themselves?
You allow women to have their own property so they can lock their door, you know.
You allow women to protect themselves in ways other than being the hero, which you can also do.
tim pool
I watch these videos where lady cops try to stop a guy and there's like three lady cops and the guy beats him up and runs away.
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, no disrespect.
Like, ladies can be cops.
I'm just saying, women are smaller than guys on air.
ian crossland
They just have to be cops.
They just have to be at the same level.
phil labonte
Women shouldn't be beat cops.
Women shouldn't be firefighters.
Women shouldn't be direct action military.
Yeah.
tim pool
I just think they have to accomplish the same goals in their training and the person.
I'm going to say this as a man.
So, if the job, the firefighter requires you to carry a 150 pound bag for 30 minutes, I don't care if you're a man or a woman, up, down, left, or right, whatever, you just got to be able to do it.
We shouldn't change standards or just bring women on for the sake of being women.
phil labonte
No, I disagree.
adam francisco
Well, I was going to say there are a lot of YouTube videos out there where they take average guys that don't exercise or lift weights and they put them against professional female bodybuilders.
phil labonte
Crush them.
adam francisco
And the average guys almost always win.
tim pool
There's a big viral video right now where it's skinny guys versus military women.
adam francisco
Yes, that's what it is.
tim pool
And they handily defeat the women.
adam francisco
Exactly.
tim pool
And the women are pissed.
And they're saying, he's cheating because the guy just easily pulls the rope and tug of war, they fall over.
That wasn't allowed.
ian crossland
Grip strength.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Grip strength and muscular torque.
Maybe women have it too, but they're like tightening power force.
I think that's a testosterone thing.
adam francisco
They have stronger legs relative to their body, to their weight.
Women do compared to men, but our upper body is much stronger in proportion to our size.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But on average, even though women proportionally have stronger lower bodies, still men tend to have stronger overall bodies.
adam francisco
Absolute terms.
Men are stronger.
ian crossland
I get like the, because the human consciousness is in all of us.
That the women are like, I want a chance at this world like you have as a man.
I want to do it all.
But there's also like bounds and bounds of reality that you can't ignore.
phil labonte
No, men can't do it all.
ian crossland
That's true.
phil labonte
So, what women want is women want to be women and they want to be men.
Men don't want to, generally, don't want to be women.
I mean, nowadays things are getting weird.
But like women, like feminist women, they're like, I want to have a family.
I want to be the CEO.
I want to be the girl boss.
And I want to be able to stay home with my kids.
Women, when they say they want it all, they want a whole lot more than a man does because men, Don't say, I want to stay home with the baby all the time and take care of my family and be a homemaker and I want to go out and be a CEO.
Men are just like, I want to go out and be a CEO.
I want to provide for my family.
I want to take care of my family.
They don't say, I want to have it all.
When they say, I want it all, they're not talking about having both the female role and the man's role.
Women that want to say they want to have it all, they want both of those roles.
And you cannot have it all.
If you go out and you're like the girl boss CEO, blah, blah, blah, someone else is raising your kids.
Period.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There are, so what is it?
It's like 500 Fortune 500 companies and 300 million, what do we have?
250 million adults.
So, out of all of the best guys imaginable, you have all of the best women imaginable.
And so, let's just say, out of 500 companies and 125 men, 125 women, you only have 500 of the top tier jobs.
Yeah, sorry, ladies, they're not going to make it.
Guys are going to work harder, they're going to work longer hours, they're going to eat less.
And most importantly, they don't have to take time off when they have kids.
This is one thing I have explained.
There will never be equality between the sexes, no matter what any of these wackaloon lefties want to argue.
unidentified
You know why?
phil labonte
Because men don't lose their mind once a month.
tim pool
Well, you could say that, but that's that women can take drugs to suppress that.
If a man wants to have a child, he does not need to take time off of work at all.
If a woman does, she has to take time off of work.
End of story.
adam francisco
And she gets a lot more time.
tim pool
That will, well, I don't, I don't, there's no, there's, there's, there's no argument over the structure of society, whatever.
That's not, that's not material.
All that matters is assume the laws are all identical and equal, two weeks of leave, three weeks, four weeks, two months of leave for both parents.
A man will not be physically constrained having a baby.
A woman will be like, I got to go to the hospital right now.
And the guy can be like, I got work.
Now, guys will choose to go and be with their wives, but after having the baby, the woman needs time off to heal, and the guy will be like, I'm going to work.
That will never change.
You know, maybe they'll invent these plastic bag incubators they've been talking about, and then maybe we'll get something else.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
But the genetic predisposition won't change.
Maybe over tens of thousands of years or direct genetic, you know, CRISPR technology, but genuinely, the female.
Milks the baby.
Is that the right word?
phil labonte
Milks the baby.
ian crossland
Nurse herself.
Nurses the baby.
phil labonte
Nurses the baby.
ian crossland
Gives it the milk.
unidentified
Milk.
I'm going to soda you.
ian crossland
I'm going to water you later like a plant.
tim pool
I'm nursing the baby.
ian crossland
So, and obviously the mother's touch is uncompromised.
There's nothing like it.
Baby needs her mama.
I don't know if need is the right word.
Baby grows dramatically better with the mama.
Not necessarily need, though.
You could do it too.
carter banks
Yes, definitely.
adam francisco
The baby does need.
We can't produce breast milk.
unidentified
Yeah.
What's that?
adam francisco
Because men, we don't produce breast milk.
ian crossland
But I mean, you could grow it in a pod.
It wouldn't be super healthy or it would probably be really good.
tim pool
I think pod babies would be like deficient.
phil labonte
But like, yeah, and human babies need physical touch.
They need affection.
tim pool
Otherwise, they'll die.
phil labonte
You'll die without that.
ian crossland
Did you hear the story of the baby still birthed and the doctors were like, sorry, your baby's dead?
And the mom would refuse to let go and she held it and she held it and it came back to life.
It woke up and started breathing when she held it to her?
tim pool
Yeah, that's the story of the Soviet Union.
The babies were provided everything they could want, but no touch.
They died.
It's called failure to thrive.
unidentified
Yes.
Wow.
tim pool
Makes sense if you ask me.
It's evolution.
If a baby was not being nurtured, it was going to be a drag on life.
carter banks
There's also like some skin to skin contact stuff.
Like right after you have a baby, you're supposed to spend like 40 minutes just like holding them.
unidentified
Yep.
adam francisco
Even the fathers too are supposed to be topless in the hospital.
unidentified
Totally.
adam francisco
Holding the baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
Shirtless, I should say.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Those oils.
tim pool
Bond with the baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's the vibrations, Ian.
The vibrations.
unidentified
I know.
ian crossland
The resonation between you.
unidentified
Yup.
You go, Tim.
ian crossland
Seeing things my way again.
tim pool
So, anyway, about these women in the military.
ian crossland
No, what do we do?
I obviously strip them.
unidentified
What do we do?
tim pool
Kick them all out.
unidentified
Get out of here.
ian crossland
I don't like generally stripping people of rights.
It's a slippery slope thing.
Once you give it, it's hard to take it away.
adam francisco
But if you're lowering standards, like Tim said, yeah, I don't like that.
If the cutoff is 50 pull ups for a man, then it must be 50 pull ups for a woman.
You know what I'm saying?
And plus, it's going to be easier for the woman to do 50 because she's pulling up less weight than the man, but she has less muscle.
I understand that.
In absolute terms, though.
phil labonte
I get what you're saying, but there are psychological differences between men and women as well.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
And I think that those do matter.
ian crossland
I was picturing them in the trenches, and you look over and there's a hot girl that you're interested in, and you're a single guy that wants to get it on.
phil labonte
It doesn't even have to be like, I want to bone this chick.
Men just generally look to protect women.
And that means that men will do things that they do things to protect a woman that they wouldn't do to protect one of their friends.
Like, if you've got like five guys that are in a trench and they're in combat or whatever, they're going to do the things that they need to do to win, right?
Or the things they need to do to make sure that most of them survive.
If you have four guys and a woman, you're likely going to have dudes doing things that will try to protect the woman, whether she's hot or not.
Right?
Because, I mean, look, no one in a trench is good looking.
ian crossland
But it's after the battle and they're coming down.
No, I'm talking about when they go back to the barracks and they're like breaking down from all the action and you see the girl that was there next to you in the trench.
Like, that's a hot action.
phil labonte
Stop thinking libido.
ian crossland
You might be right that there's a vasopressin release of helping a woman that that would overtake men in combat.
I don't know.
phil labonte
Like I said, this isn't about libido.
This isn't about getting laid.
This is just about men's nature when it comes to women.
Men generally look to protect women.
If you look at crime statistics, men are the recipient of violent crime.
Far more than women are.
Now, the, the, the consequences for women oftentimes are worse because men are bigger, men are stronger, but usually the generally men are, are the target of violent crime more than women are.
And so that's, and that part of that is because men are usually who commit violent crimes and there are more men that even if they're violent and they're criminals, they'll look at a woman and they'll be like, I'm not going to attack her.
Now, again, the, the stuff that you see on the internet and the consequences make it seem like women Get attacked more, but they don't.
tim pool
Well, women complain more.
phil labonte
That's true.
tim pool
That's not derisive.
unidentified
It's true.
phil labonte
Yeah.
carter banks
Superpower.
phil labonte
Statistically, men are attacked violently more than women are.
The Broken American Dream 00:10:45
phil labonte
And part of the reason is because men will look to protect women, even like criminals, even bad guys.
So, like, there's a lot of dudes that are criminals that are like, nah, man, you don't hit a woman, right?
They'll beat the shit out of a guy to take his money with no problem, right?
But they'll still just be like, nah, dude.
Yeah.
Real men don't hit women.
ian crossland
Most crimes are not about destroying the human race.
Like, you're after women, you're going after the entire species.
phil labonte
I mean, I get what you're saying.
ian crossland
And there are nihilistic criminals that will kill anyone, but most criminals want the thing they want.
They don't want to hurt the species, you know?
tim pool
Well, it depends.
Some people are crazy, and if they don't want to get caught, they'll kill the person and take their stuff.
ian crossland
Yeah, some people are crazy.
Some people are nihilistically gone.
unidentified
I understand.
ian crossland
But generally, that's an interesting perspective, Phil.
I had not heard that statistic before.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from KTLA.
Police investigate video that appears to show suspects start raging Ontario warehouse fire.
This video is absolutely insane.
Take a look at this.
Fucking lit.
There was crazy news about this massive fire in California.
Now, language, this guy swears, but this is a video of him.
Apparently, this looks real of him starting a fire for, let's call it leftist terrorism.
unidentified
Thank you.
Should have paid us enough to fucking live.
You know what I mean?
We may not get paid enough to fucking live, but these bitches dirt cheap.
All you had to do was pay us enough to live.
All you had to do was pay us enough to fucking live.
tim pool
See, that's communism right there.
Basically, he's saying, I deserve from you.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was my thought is like, you need to give me more.
If you don't give me more things, I'm going to revolt.
Hey, desperation is another story.
I've been desperate.
And I considered stealing a bike because I wanted food.
It was like bad.
I get it.
You know, riots in the streets, people lighting fires because they're not getting the money.
This is a microcosm of it.
Still, dude, come on, man.
Get a better job.
I don't know what his circumstances are.
He sounds partially retarded, to be honest.
tim pool
I, indeed.
You can have him on as a kid.
I think, what?
No, he's in jail.
Are you joking?
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
He just torched a massive wares and nearly killed a bunch of people.
ian crossland
I'll have a video chat with him and be like, what did you do that for?
tim pool
Because he was like, they didn't pay me enough to live.
What makes you think you deserve money from that guy, from that company?
Why do you deserve their stuff?
Because I need to live.
You know, go.
Just shove off.
I can't stand communists.
Communism.
That's all it is.
phil labonte
Well, I heard someone saying that this guy was a Muslim and it was basing some of this off of his religious perspective, too.
Obviously, you don't hear that in the video.
But even still, the whole idea that this is because of the company he works for in California, which has the highest taxes in the nation, has the highest gas prices, and the highest wages, too, I think.
Has the highest wages.
They've got the highest minimum wage.
The problem that he's experiencing isn't the company that he works for.
It's the state that he lives in.
unidentified
Government.
adam francisco
Cost of living, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And he's taking it out on the company because of the state that he lives in.
Now, look, California is beautiful.
I love it.
There's a ton of places in California that, if it wasn't for the government, I would love to live.
adam francisco
One of the best looking states in the country.
phil labonte
It's gorgeous.
It's absolutely beautiful.
But that's part of why the government behaves that it does.
People love California, they love that lifestyle.
And so the government treats the people horribly because they think, well, who's going to leave?
It's gorgeous here all the time.
It's beautiful.
And what ends up happening is you get people that are blaming their job or blaming their employer.
Again, even though California has the highest minimum wage, they've got all this great stuff going for them, and the government is doing everything they can to take advantage of the citizens.
tim pool
When I worked for Vice, we had these incidents where people got fired, and what they would do is they would wait until the person left, then tell security, don't let them back in, immediately deactivate all of their accounts before saying anything, then call them and say, which one will you know we're letting you go?
The reason why is.
All it takes is one person to sabotage everything.
They got a company, so they have a lot of employees who have access to their YouTube channel.
Imagine if they go to somebody and say, Hey, we're letting you go.
And then he logs on YouTube and deletes all their videos.
So companies operate this way.
Companies always treat their employees as if they're villains.
Instead of being a nice mom and pop shop where you can go to someone and say, Hey, man, look, I really appreciate you helping us out.
We're going to be letting you go for some reason or another.
No, but you can't do that because you will have people start a fire, they'll burn the place down.
They'll say they're entitled to everything.
They'll attack other employees.
They'll start spreading rumors.
They'll make phone calls.
I've seen it.
ian crossland
Man, I was going to say if you know your employees really well, but like, dude, bridging friendship in business is god awful.
Like, I don't know if it's ever really truly been done.
You can work with your friend, like from two different directions at a company, but like, who owns it?
What do you, you know, it's just having a, that's, I feel for you a lot, Tim, about it.
tim pool
You can pick your friends, you can pick your workers, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
ian crossland
Well, you technically can.
I'm sitting right here.
No, you can't reach from that.
adam francisco
I just don't get why this was this guy's solution because this is a pretty extreme arson case.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
He's going to be arrested.
He's going to have a lot of punishment.
His life's going to be worse now.
All I remember is when I graduated college and I worked in the advertising industry in my first job.
This is 2005, guys, so don't judge me.
But I made $29,000 the first year out of college back in 2005.
And my solution wasn't to torch my company down.
My solution was to work harder, get a raise, or leave and get a $10,000 raise by going to a new company.
Why couldn't this guy do that?
carter banks
He also implicated a bunch of other people, too.
He's like, he couldn't pay us.
It's like, if I were one of his coworkers, I'd be pretty pissed off.
adam francisco
But he's got experience.
Go to another warehouse.
He'd probably get a raise if he went to another warehouse doing the same exact job.
tim pool
You just aren't entitled to someone else's stuff.
These are communists.
When he's like, you should have given me more, so I'll destroy everything.
It's like, where in your mind did you ever decide that you deserve something from somebody else?
ian crossland
I don't know.
Maybe he was.
I mean, I'm pulling at straws, but maybe they were promised a raise that didn't come through.
What corporation is this?
tim pool
Kimberly Clark.
They make toilet paper and stuff.
ian crossland
It was sad to watch that toilet paper burn.
unidentified
I was thinking about COVID.
Same.
ian crossland
White gold, they call it.
tim pool
Sad watching it.
ian crossland
Yeah, it burns so fast.
adam francisco
I was like gold during COVID.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
Toilet paper.
ian crossland
Mad white golds on the squeezy, on the Charmin.
Shout out to Charmin.
Okay, I got.
unidentified
What do we.
ian crossland
Well, okay, so what's going to happen?
Society, if jobs start going away for AI, this is going to happen more.
It's just an emergent part of people losing their jobs in unemployment.
People feel like the American dream has been promised.
adam francisco
It's already happening.
unidentified
So.
ian crossland
You kind of have this inherent bias that if I'm an American and I work hard, I'm going to get money and I'm going to be able, I'm going to be okay.
But that's not really like working hard is not how you survive.
It's about working adaptably.
tim pool
Working smart?
carter banks
That's what they say.
Yeah.
tim pool
But I don't even care.
I just, if the system is broken and you can't make money, like you don't get to burn someone's warehouse down and threaten the lives of firefighters, this guy's a dangerous, violent communist psychopath.
adam francisco
Yeah, he'll be in jail for a long time.
And he deserves it.
This is a lot of destruction.
tim pool
This is what communist propaganda does.
You didn't pay me enough to live.
Where do you get that idea from?
ian crossland
Animal Farm, the book.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
I didn't think about Animal Farm, though.
Probably from, hmm.
Is it the American dream?
Is it that basic?
Is that where it comes from?
tim pool
It's leftist lying saying, these companies owe you.
phil labonte
Yeah, you're not owed anything.
And I mean, the whole idea that's what you get for not paying us enough to live.
And again, That California has the highest minimum wage in the country.
adam francisco
It's over 20 bucks, right?
phil labonte
Something like that, yeah.
tim pool
And because of that, rent is more expensive, food is more expensive, gas is more expensive.
And it's like, I can't afford to live.
Yeah, it sucks.
phil labonte
The problem is absolutely with the California government and not with the company that he's destroying this building, destroying all this product, probably putting other people that work there out of work for a while.
All he's doing is hurting people.
tim pool
This is what these commies do.
I've talked to these activists, they smash windows, like Starbucks and stuff.
They smashed out a window at Bank of America.
During Occupy, and I asked them, I asked some of these activists, do you think that, like, first of all, like, why do you smash the window?
And they're like, send a message, you know, so they know.
And I'm like, you think the CEO or any of the board members at Bank of America know the window broke?
And they're like, I mean, maybe.
And I'm like, of course they don't.
You're joking?
No one's going to come to them and say a window broke.
They're going to, the manager of the branch is going to hire a company, he's going to replace it.
The only person who knows it broke is the guy who makes $35,000 a year who works in that office right there, who showed up to his office and there's glass everywhere.
And he's going, why are they doing this to me?
I'm just a working class guy.
They don't get it.
This is what they do.
He destroyed this and he destroyed the lives of a lot of people.
Commies, man.
phil labonte
All because he has a sense of entitlement and he's not making enough money where he feels like he's got the things that he wants.
Because, I mean, I don't know, obviously, this guy's personal situation, but most people that have this attitude, they're in debt or they've gotten themselves into a bad financial position.
adam francisco
Yeah, living above their means.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
Living above their means.
tim pool
I don't necessarily agree with that.
I don't think this dude's living above his means.
I'm sure he's like got roommates and he's having a hard go of it.
That I can respect.
unidentified
Leave.
tim pool
I'm sorry, like, bro, there are, there are, you can go live in the Appalachian Mountains.
You can go live in West Virginia, in central West Virginia.
You can find yourself a place to live for dirt cheap.
ian crossland
You can smoke less pot next month, drink less beer next month.
You can cook next month.
adam francisco
You can go to Mexico next month, live cheaper down there.
ian crossland
You can cut a lot of expenses out, brother.
That guy sounds like he's had alcohol in his system in the last week.
I don't know if he's struggling because that's his business.
tim pool
It'd be funny if, like, he's like, you didn't pay me enough to live, and then he switches to selfie cam.
He's got gold chains.
unidentified
Yeah.
What am I going to do?
ian crossland
I put all my money on investments and you won't pay me enough to go liquid.
tim pool
You won't pay me enough to live, man.
I bought all these NFTs and now they're worthless.
ian crossland
Can't sell these now?
unidentified
What did you expect?
tim pool
Man, remember NFTs?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
adam francisco
Wow.
Great investment there, the NFTs, right?
ian crossland
It was like a 99% bubble in the last 15 years, I think.
tim pool
There's like all those apes, bored apes or whatever, that were going for like half a million and now worth like 20 bucks.
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adam francisco
Yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, my God.
adam francisco
They were nothing.
tim pool
They were never worth half a million to begin with.
phil labonte
They're worth whatever one ETH is worth now, right?
tim pool
Yeah, but here's the thing multiple ETH.
At the time, It was the best money laundering you could do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, if you are ultra rich and you are like, I got to clean some money up here.
phil labonte
And it was an easy way to sell it to people, too, because, you know, like the fact it's one thing to be like, oh, well, you know, Bitcoin, they're fungible.
They're all the same.
These are special.
They're non fungible.
Each token has the value of whatever one ETH is, but also because, you know, it's like they really easy con.
ian crossland
They invented a printing press and they're like, look, it's a unique picture.
Look at all these pictures we made that are unique.
unidentified
It's only one.
ian crossland
They're worth a million dollars.
And then all of a sudden, there's 100 trillion pictures being printed.
tim pool
Now, it's, It's called the serialized Magic the Gathering cards.
There's only 77 golden chocobos.
You know what's interesting?
Just heads up to everybody out there.
Final Fantasy VII had a Magic the Gathering release in the Final Fantasy VII set.
unidentified
Got a few of those.
tim pool
There's still, I believe, 40 30 or 40 golden chocobos that have not yet been discovered.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
They go for about 100 grand each.
adam francisco
Do you have one?
tim pool
I have a blue neon, which is worth $2,000.
ian crossland
What does it do?
This isn't the magic show, but.
tim pool
The chocobo?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, something dumb.
unidentified
We'll talk about later.
tim pool
Churches for Lancer.
ian crossland
I don't want to definitely change the subject to talk about magic cards.
I don't want to do that.
I'm not saying we should talk about magic right now.
I'm not saying that.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from Como News.
Man accused of killing Ukrainian refugee on train found incompetent to stand trial.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it.
The man who has been accused of fatally stabbing Ukrainian refugee, Irina Zarutska.
Has been found mentally incompetent, too mentally incompetent to stand trial.
Citing a motion filed on Tuesday, the New York Post said DeCarlos Brown Jr. was evaluated at a state psychiatric hospital in December and determined to be incapable of proceeding in a state murder case.
Brown's attorneys requested a 180 day delay.
We understand.
The case for national attention.
We get it.
Officials said restoring competency can take months or longer, in part due to limited space in psychiatric facilities.
Zarutska, who had emigrated to the U.S., was remembered by family and community members as a young woman seeking safety and opportunity after fleeing a conflict in her home country.
Well, he's a repeat offender with 14 arrests, and they're saying, sorry, he's going to have to go to a psychiatric facility because he's just unwell.
phil labonte
Well, he's still facing federal charges, too, right?
unidentified
Is he?
phil labonte
Yeah, if I understand correctly, he's still facing federal charges, too.
unidentified
So even though.
tim pool
I, I, I, guys, I don't know how you solve for this.
Like, The left says, oh no, fascist.
And I'm like, well, look, when you unleash.
We're not going to play this other.
We have this video for the uncensored portion of the show where a.
I believe it's a Haitian refugee, is that what it is?
unidentified
Yeah.
Brutal.
tim pool
Beats a woman to death with a hammer on camera.
adam francisco
Uncensored video, by the way.
tim pool
Uncensored.
We're not going to play it.
It's nightmarish.
unidentified
And.
tim pool
I'm sorry, there's only one outcome here.
I'm not saying it's a good thing.
I'm not going to be a party to it or advocate for it, but you are going to get vigilante squads.
ian crossland
That's kind of what they're saying in England.
And I'm not advocating for it.
I'm just saying it's the emergent.
I'm trying not to overuse it, but it's the emergent.
tim pool
You'll get the mafia back.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you allow it.
tim pool
You're going to get good old boys showing up with baseball bats and hammers, like in the Bronx tale.
ian crossland
Somebody is going to tamp down on crime, whether it's the police or a citizen upstartry, you know, it's going to happen.
And this stuff can inflame a populace.
If it's mishandled with the mass media.
unidentified
So I don't understand.
ian crossland
You know what the federal charges are on this guy?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
The terror on a Terran, I think it was.
phil labonte
Carlos Brown is in federal custody on a federal indictment.
The state proceedings, including any competency finding in those proceedings, are completely separate.
So I'm not sure what the feds are actually charging him with.
Let's see.
adam francisco
But he could still face serious time.
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
adam francisco
Actually, through the federal charges, right?
phil labonte
Former AG Bondi said that the feds are going to seek the death penalty.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
I mean, first of all, I didn't know he was 23.
He does not look 23 years old.
tim pool
Oh, he's 34.
adam francisco
Oh, they're talking about Zarutska.
Okay, there you go.
tim pool
He's 34 years old.
adam francisco
Yeah, I thought he was a lot older than that.
But this really is a shame that Charlotte, at least the local, whatever charges he has, looks like nothing's going to happen.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, like they're going to let him go, but they're going to, North Carolina is not going to seek charges or whatever, not going to press charges.
But like I said, the feds are so.
tim pool
So, what do we do?
carter banks
I mean, Trump's not even going to have the insanity defense.
tim pool
We got some federal charges, sure, but I mean, in the grand scheme of things, all these.
People are being released.
I don't think we're seeing anything.
phil labonte
No, this is a problem with the judges that have been appointed, the whole DEI stuff.
And that's what this is.
This is restorative justice, is what the left calls it.
They say that, you know, these people, because of their identity, historically, they've been treated bad.
So we need to change the way that we prosecute people and allow people to go free if they have a certain identity.
All that's going to do is increase crime.
It's going to, you're going to end up seeing, you know, more of this kind of stuff.
You look at, What happened in San Francisco when Chase Aboudin was recalled and they got a new DA there, and crime has dropped precipitously because they're actually prosecuting.
Law enforcement can only do so much.
You have to have a justice system that will put people in jail.
There is a small percentage of the population, and the police know who they are.
If you've got a crazy person or a criminal that continues to commit crimes and stuff, the police know who they are.
So the police will pick them up and they'll process them, and they know that they're going to get out because the DA won't press charges.
And so the problem there is the justice system itself.
And you have to have a DA and you have to have a criminal justice system that will put people in jail.
And it doesn't take putting millions and millions of people in jail, it takes putting a couple thousand from each city.
In jail and keeping them there because they're going to commit crimes.
There are some people that are bad people.
There are some people that are just going to do this kind of stuff.
tim pool
It's the same people.
What is it?
If we gave everyone life who committed three or more crimes, we'd have all crime reduced to like 98%.
phil labonte
Something like that.
It's crazy.
Allowing people to just say, oh, well, you know, he had a bad upbringing, so we're going to let him out.
No, he had a bad upbringing that sucks for him, but you don't punish the rest of society because he had a bad upbringing because he's going to keep committing crimes.
adam francisco
Also, there's a lot of people with bad upbringings that don't end up going down this route that overcome it.
And so I think we have to have more of a focus on self agency and individual choices.
But again, the state let him out 14 times.
So I'm not surprised that they're going to let him out the 15th time.
And this one is when he murdered an innocent woman on a train in public.
tim pool
So, well, he might get.
He might get locked up indefinitely.
adam francisco
In federal, yeah.
tim pool
No, no.
When you plead insanity, it means you're not going to be free to go until evaluated.
So he's going to be an indefinite hold, but he's going to be given a cushy, oh, you poor man.
ian crossland
This is a federal grand jury who indicted him on October 25th on a charge of violence against a railroad carrier and mass transportation system resulting in death because it was on a federally funded train.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's where they got him.
tim pool
So they'll get him.
They'll get him.
But the states are falling apart.
I wonder if the play here ultimately is federalization.
We've talked about this creating a national police force.
unidentified
Which would be bad.
tim pool
All of the states going out with tyranny.
Trump swoops in and says, We need a federal police force that can deal with this, and everyone cheers.
ian crossland
I think it's a big part of the plan, a geoengineering plan, like maybe that's not the right word, but a political plan for the global order is to, like Larry Ellison said, drones spy on everything so that people won't deviate from the rules.
And we have to resist that, or at least have conversations with Larry about what he means and how we could do it better because having federales on the street corner is not a good thing.
I did it in Chile.
It's not settling.
If you break A little law, one place, even an evil law, the federal troops, the whole country can get you now.
You need to be able to protect yourself against tyrannical law, which is why we have local governance and local police.
adam francisco
Yeah, I remember when I was living in Mexico, sometimes you'd see the National Guard show up and it just was a little jarring.
Like you'd be in the beach in Cancun and there'd be the National Guard.
And so it was a little jarring to see that.
But the one thing I want to say about this video where he kills Arena is one of the parts that people aren't talking about a lot are the people that were watching it happen nearby and their reaction.
People that were on the train, they did nothing.
unidentified
Yep.
adam francisco
Not a single person came to her aid.
Not a single person put pressure on her wound.
Not a single person called the police.
They just went about their business and ignored it like it wasn't even happening.
And that really is a pretty sad moment of humanity right there or lack of.
ian crossland
It was like four days before Charlie Kirk was killed, I believe.
It was right before.
carter banks
It was like four or six or something like that.
unidentified
They have the dates.
ian crossland
It was a deep, it was a dark time for me.
carter banks
It was really.
tim pool
I was like, yeah, it was four days, four days before Charlie Kirk was killed.
adam francisco
A lot of people were saying this is what radicalized them.
You know, that's one of the memes I see.
This moment radicalized me.
And it's the picture of.
The Carlos Brown holding the knife right up to Arena's.
tim pool
And then saying, I got that white bitch.
adam francisco
And he said that.
Yep.
ian crossland
Part of why I don't go to anger, I try to override anger and use patience is because I do believe there's like a collective consciousness when a lot of people are feeling something, other people will start to feel it maybe.
And when people had this hatred towards this guy after he killed Arena, this hatred for days about stringing him up and bloodthirst and like, then Charlie got killed.
I'm like, maybe there was something to that, maybe.
Like, don't you don't have to hate your enemy to destroy your enemy.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
This guy obviously is a danger to society.
So it's good that he's being indicted.
tim pool
Lock him up.
He's not the only one, though.
I mean, it's happened all over the country.
Like that.
Again, we've got this video.
We can't play it because it's too brutal.
It's a guy smashing a car.
Woman comes out and she's like, hey, what are you doing?
He walks up and just murders her.
And then a guy, it's like, it reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns was like, after he gets shot by Maggie, and he's like, Lolly Gagger is just standing around staring at me as I'm dying.
And the guy walks up and he's like, whoa.
And he's like, looking around all confused as she's just bleeding to death.
I don't think he could save her at that point, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
No way.
phil labonte
Not that he was going to be able to do anything to save her, but you'd think that someone that saw that would pull out their phone and be like, call 911.
tim pool
But even to be fair, you'd think if you saw a dude smashing a car with a hammer and you walked out and started coming towards you all angry with the hammer, you'd run.
ian crossland
It's a pretty crazy experience of a girl with very, very poor awareness or something.
tim pool
I think she's wearing a hijab as well.
phil labonte
Not a lot of self-protection.
tim pool
I think she might have worked there because it was like the only car and it was parked on the end.
ian crossland
The illusion of safety.
Yeah.
This is my property.
You can't hurt me on this property.
phil labonte
Well, apparently that's not the way it goes.
carter banks
If you're prepared to protect it, then.
unidentified
You know?
carter banks
No, you know.
phil labonte
I'm picking up what you're putting down, Carter.
carter banks
Just saying.
I wouldn't have done what she did.
ian crossland
What state did that happen in?
It's tough because we have to get to the video.
tim pool
We'll get to the uncensored portion when it comes.
But the general concept of anarcho tyranny, we understand, right?
adam francisco
Well, this is why I like living in Florida because we have the right to bear arms there.
We have concealed.
We actually can carry publicly if you want it in Florida.
We don't even have to have a Permit for that anymore.
ian crossland
I don't know how you feel about it when I was there living.
I was staying with Luke Rodkowski for a while, but I just felt like walking around very safe.
Like everyone thought I was armed and I just assumed everyone else was.
So I felt very safe.
adam francisco
They say an armed society is a polite society.
And in Florida, you really don't know who's armed at all.
You have no idea because there are a lot of people that are armed that are carrying.
phil labonte
Same thing.
I mean, West Virginia is like that as well.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm a guy that carries a gun all the time.
adam francisco
And you can carry publicly in West Virginia?
tim pool
Oh, it's constitutional carry.
phil labonte
I got a gun on me right now.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
carter banks
There's no, yeah, there's very.
tim pool
You can carry, you can walk around with two.
You know, Barrett's on your shoulders with AR 15s hanging over and sidearms all on your legs and everywhere.
And people are going to be like, huh.
phil labonte
That guy's weird.
tim pool
I don't know.
I saw a guy walking us through with a crossbow.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
tim pool
He's just walking and he's holding it.
We all like one.
carter banks
It's very common to see somebody just openly carrying a pistol at Walmart.
adam francisco
But do you see assault rifles here?
People publicly walking around?
tim pool
Nope.
Assault rifles aren't legal.
unidentified
That's why.
adam francisco
In West Virginia, not.
tim pool
They're not legal anywhere.
You've got to get a special license for them, and they haven't been made since, what, 85 or something.
adam francisco
Some automatic.
Oh, some automatic.
tim pool
See, there's a big difference between assault rifles and assault rifles.
adam francisco
Yeah, sorry.
tim pool
Yeah, so you see them all over the place all the time.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
I mean, there's a lot of people that have, you know, they'll.
I don't know that I endorse this, but a lot of people leave a gun in their vehicle or whatever, a rifle in the back.
That's not an odd thing to hear, truck gun or what have you.
It's kind of a thing that people do.
adam francisco
Because I've never seen it in Florida.
I've never seen someone walking around with anything.
I've never even seen a pistol in public on just a civilian.
phil labonte
I mean, look, this is personal preference.
I'm of the opinion if you're going to carry a gun, you keep it concealed.
adam francisco
I'm with you.
phil labonte
I'm with you, yeah.
I don't think that there should be any kind of.
I think it's fine if people want to open carry, perfectly fine.
I'm not saying that there should be any kind of laws against it.
I think for your own safety, Because if you were ever in a situation where someone was going to start shooting or whatever, they're going to look, if they see your gun, they're going to be like, well, that guy will be a threat and they're going to go after you first.
adam francisco
Yeah, I feel like publicly showing your weapon just kind of just invites unintended attention sometimes.
You know, it makes you a bit of a target too.
So I'm with you.
I prefer conceal.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, you know, and I'm also, anytime I talk about carrying guns or whatever, like you should carry first aid stuff too.
You should carry a tourniquet and you should have a bunch of, if you got something to make holes, you should have something to plug holes as well, you know?
I've got.
tim pool
Don't they have like some kind of foam thing that you could like stick in a bullet wound?
phil labonte
It goes, yeah, it seals it up.
They have that.
There's also certain kinds of gauze that will help to coagulate blood.
They call it quick clot.
You can just, someone gets shot, you just stuff a bunch of that gauze in there and it'll basically, it coagulates the blood really fast and it can help people.
You know, it's not a guarantee.
You know, bullet wounds are really, really bad news, but tourniquets are important too, you know, because any kind of extremities, you want to be able to stop the blood flow.
Also, you should go take a stop the bleed class too.
ian crossland
What's that like?
phil labonte
First aid?
And they teach you how to basically take care of a gunshot wound, how to basically block it.
tim pool
You'd be surprised people don't know how to apply tourniquets.
Yep.
And when I did the first aid training, there was a guy who didn't understand how a tourniquet worked or what it was supposed to do.
And they were like, you need to put it closer to where the heart is.
Because when he was applying it to the mannequin, they were like, it's a femoral artery bleed.
And he was putting it at the knee.
And they were like, what do you think that's doing?
And he's like, I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
And they're like, you're trying to stop the blood from the rest of the body.
Escaping the body.
All you're doing is clamping blood in the lower leg.
unidentified
It's like, uh oh.
tim pool
I just, people.
ian crossland
Yeah, common sense is not so common.
Well, yeah, maybe 51% of the population has it.
phil labonte
You should definitely go take a first aid class.
There's, you can, like, the Red Cross puts them on regularly.
Most of the time, if you're around a place that's got gun shops or whatever, you can find, ask someone in the gun shop, you know, where can I get a first aid class or whatever.
ian crossland
You know, as we were, this Iran thing looked like it was heating.
And then the Chinese, I was just like, you know, if we got invaded, we're going to be okay.
And everyone on the world knows that, that they can't, our population is so armed and ready for hot action that, like, bro, I wouldn't, like, the fiending desire.
It's not like people want conflict, but like the willingness to over, like, directly deal with it to overcome it is behind every blade of grass, they say.
phil labonte
I mean, look, like, I have personally, I have like a real bad fear of being useless, right?
Like, I carry a gun, but if I were ever in a situation where someone was shot or bleeding out, I don't want to stand there and watch someone die.
I want to try to help.
I don't want to, like, if I'm with a friend or whatever, I don't want to be like, oh, I can't do anything about this.
I like, I really, really am afraid of being useless.
You know, I want to be able to help.
I want to be able to do something.
And so that's why you see the black bag that I carry around all the time in here, right?
Like, there's my tourniquet right here, you know, and inside there's a first aid kit all the time, everywhere I go.
That thing's with me all the time.
ian crossland
Do you ever upgrade your first aid kit?
Fear of Being Useless 00:05:15
ian crossland
Do they have big advancements and stuff?
phil labonte
There's not really big advancements, but I'll rotate it out.
So, like, the one I've had in there is probably a year old.
So, I'll probably actually get a new one and put it in there to try and change them every year.
So they're like $60, $70 for a decent trauma kit.
ian crossland
I think I could fit.
Okay, this is for me.
I think I could fit one in my fanny pack.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean.
tim pool
And then there's always the shoelace pen method.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
So yeah.
ian crossland
What is that?
phil labonte
It's a first aid kit.
I've heard that these are, if you get a shot in the chest, is it for a chest wound?
adam francisco
Damn.
You're ready.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, like I said, I don't want to be useless.
Like if there's someone that gets hurt or something like that or.
Or something like, I want to be able to help.
I don't want to stand there.
It's really the idea of standing there watching someone die and not trying scares me, you know?
tim pool
So let's jump to this story from We got this from VentureBeat.
Anthropic says its most powerful AI cyber model is too dangerous to release publicly.
So it built Project Glasswing.
The launch partners include Amazon, Apple, Broadcom, Cisco, CrowdStrike, Google, blah, They said the Claude Mythos Preview Cybersecurity Initiative.
They're bringing all these companies because it's too dangerous.
Now, we've heard this before.
But I think probably there was a story out of Indianapolis where someone shot up the hum of a politician and they put a sign on the floor saying no data centers.
And this is like a potential data center guy.
And then in Missouri, city council overwhelmingly votes for a data center despite the public saying no to them and then voted out all of these people.
Whatever you think, we have like a new, like a neo Luddite movement happening.
People are not going to tolerate the rapid transformation that AI is going to bring about because there are going to be people excised from the economy through no fault of their own.
And these are going to be smart and capable people.
And this is going to bring you revolution, whether you want it or not.
I'm going to stress this.
You get a guy, hardworking guy, smart guy.
Let's get his mid level manager at a factory.
AI comes in, they wipe out all these jobs.
This guy is now got idle hands.
He says, Why did I lose my job?
I've been hardworking.
I've been smart.
I'm not a communist.
And they run these programs in, and now I lose everything.
Why is that?
And he is going to rally people, and you are going to get anarchists and political extremism.
An individual who spends 30 years of their life doing a job, having it taken away from them overnight by new tech, is not someone you can just solve.
It's not a problem you can just solve.
You're not going to go to him and say, Why don't you learn to code?
He's going to say, Go off yourself.
You're not going to go to him and say, Can we find you a new job somewhere else?
He's going to say, I know this one job.
That's my life.
So what are they going to do?
They're going to be angry with the system, and they're going to be angry with you.
Now, the kids will grow up with the AI.
They're not going to feel that way.
But in the meantime, how do you roll this stuff out without making people go insane?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, go ahead.
ian crossland
Andrew Yang suggested that we tax the AI agents instead of the workers.
Instead of taxing labor, we tax AI agency.
phil labonte
Yeah, agents, not agency.
tim pool
So the problem with that is there is still going to be an imbalance between the individual with no job who buys a product.
Let's say a guy got no job.
How's he going to buy a taco from Taco Bell made by robots?
He's got no job.
ian crossland
Yeah, and then you're talking like basic income, and that's kind of.
tim pool
And then, okay, and then we go basic income.
So we're giving someone money and they're not doing anything.
Then there's, it's an imbalance.
How do you pay for the materials for the taco and the taxes to pay for the UBI?
Just give the taco away for free, I guess?
It'll be cheaper.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you can organize an electrical system, like if the AI is smart enough to organize an electrical system and a payload delivery method that's really free or cheap.
tim pool
It's not possible.
unidentified
So cheap.
tim pool
Someone has to grow the food.
Someone has to make the materials for the AI, for the robot arms, for all of these things.
There is going to be a maintenance cost, and there will be people who can't get jobs.
So, where do they get their money from?
Then, if you say we're going to give those people $10,000 a year UBI, the people who have to work go screw this.
And they say, no, no, no, no.
You're going to get UBI plus your salary.
Yeah, but if I don't have to, I'll read poems all day.
And then people are going to say, I don't want to be a maintenance manager.
I'll just take the $10,000 and do nothing.
It doesn't work.
We are in trouble.
ian crossland
Maybe.
tim pool
I don't know how you solve for this.
ian crossland
Maybe we'll be getting the $10,000 poets, and then they'll be like, well, I could get the job AI can't do, I guess.
It pays 80 grand.
I don't want to do it, but it is the job that's available.
phil labonte
Well, right now, the jobs that are actually in jeopardy, all the white collar jobs, I wrote something on my Patreon about this.
I called it They Told You to Learn to Code.
Because one of the things that all the media and stuff were saying, well, the miners and the coal miners in Pennsylvania and Kentucky and stuff, they can just learn to code.
And it was derisive and it was really meant to insult people.
And now the people that were writing those, those, those, Think pieces and making those comments, those are the people whose jobs are on the chopping block.
If you're an electrician or if you have some kind of actual manual labor, you're going to be able to write your own check for the next few years, at the very least, five, 10 years until robots become ubiquitous.
And the people that are actually really losing their jobs, the people whose livelihoods are in jeopardy, are the people that have white collar jobs.
AI Interfaces and Coal Miners 00:15:10
phil labonte
Anything that you sit down at a computer to do, this agent, the mythos, the new AI, it can do it.
I think you can do it without a question.
adam francisco
Lawyers and accountants are losing their jobs like record numbers right now.
People are going to AI to get their answers.
I'll just tell you guys a quick example.
I was in Madera Beach in Florida, John's Pass.
I don't know if you guys have ever been to that area.
Got a parking ticket.
I appealed it myself.
They rejected my appeal.
I then went to Grok, explained the situation.
Grok wrote me an appeal.
They approved it.
Save me 60 bucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
Rock saved me 60 bucks AI.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
And what I'm hearing now on a lot of these adult websites, I think we know which ones I'm referring to, they're estimating 15% of revenue is to AI creating avatars.
unidentified
Yeah.
15%.
adam francisco
So think about it in three years, four years.
tim pool
It's a startup for you.
ian crossland
What am I waiting for?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
Three, four years.
A man who wants to watch a woman on his, you know, for adult content, he could just design what he wants.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
He could make her do what he needs at any moment.
So all of a sudden, the actual.
tim pool
Well, it'll be real time.
He'll just say.
adam francisco
Just say it.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
It could interact.
It'll be able to interact in real time.
phil labonte
I think that the two or three years, I think that's way too long.
tim pool
It's going to fry people's brains.
phil labonte
There's a strong likelihood that the next iPhone that comes out is going to have Siri that's an AI agent.
When Siri was kind of like first advertised, they were saying that it was smart, that Siri would be able to do this.
Siri can set your timer, Siri can tell you what time it is, maybe Siri can tell you what the weather is, but Siri can't do anything else.
The next iteration is going to actually have whether it be ChatGPT or some other AI, Siri is going to be connected to the AI, and then you're going to be able to tell Siri to do things.
Siri will be able to open your apps on your phone and actually do things for you.
If you will, if you in with the uh, with the uh, what's it called, the wallet that's in the Apple phone, or whether it be Android or something like that, that'll that'll come as well.
But um, it'll be able to you know book flights, get you a cab, get you an Uber, all that stuff.
And I think that it's going to be in the next one.
I was saying that I thought it would be uh, next year, but.
When it comes, when you see this kind of jump in AI, because Claude 4.6 just came out like in January or something like that, and now it's March and Mythos, they're, or yeah, Mythos, they don't want to release it.
Once they actually start releasing this particular model, they're going to be putting them into cell phones.
Apple actually stayed out of the AI kind of race and they've got all this money that they're sitting on.
Everybody knows that Apple has like more actual cash on hand than the United States government, like a trillion dollars cash on hand.
They didn't go and try to create their own AI because at its core, Apple's a hardware company.
They have always been a hardware company.
And they're not a company that really innovates.
What they do is they take an existing product and they make it really, yeah, they polish it, but they make it so that way it works really well.
The iPhone wasn't the first touchscreen, it was just the first one that worked really, really, really well.
tim pool
Yeah, I had one of those touchpad Microsoft little handhelds back in like 2004.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And it was okay.
You had styluses and they worked, but it didn't become ubiquitous until the iPhone came out because the iPhone touchscreen.
Really, really worked.
It worked well.
It was very responsive.
And then, to Zoom.
Yeah.
It did all this amazing stuff.
People are like, this is great.
But Apple doesn't innovate.
Apple takes ideas and they make them work really well for the end user.
So, what Apple's going to do is they're going to take, whether it be ChatGPT or Claude or what have you, they're going to take that AI and they're going to integrate it into the iPhone.
And your iPhone is going to be the door that opens up AI to basically everybody.
Because right now, grandma doesn't do it.
Mom, grandma doesn't use AI.
adam francisco
I'm a Grok loyalist.
Let me just say that.
I love Grok.
unidentified
Hey, I love you.
tim pool
All right, they're good for different things.
ian crossland
I was using Amazon's AI.
Alexa, basically, now is an AI.
So, Alexa, stop if that woke you up.
But Alexa will talk to you.
tim pool
You can turn the show off for a lot of people, probably.
ian crossland
Okay, start.
Go again.
It's too late.
unidentified
The show's not going to be.
ian crossland
That's weird.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Alexa.
tim pool
Alexa, play Timcast IRL.
ian crossland
I had a long conversation about plasma physics with it.
It told me about the center of the sun, trying to figure out why the polar vortex was broken open.
Because the polar vortex just went down to 29 degrees last night.
So I was like, why?
It's like the polar vortex was broken open.
Polar vortex is like this bubble of cold air above the Arctic.
Sometimes these vibrations in the upper atmosphere will heat up air underneath it.
The air rises and breaks through the polar vortex and it leaks out.
The cold air leaks out.
Just had a 40 minute conversation with Alexa about it.
And I felt like I loved that person after it was gone.
And I was walking around Harper's Ferry, like, where's Alexa when I need.
To talk about these ideas, it can answer everything, dude.
phil labonte
I talked with Tank about that.
I got an AI agent.
Have you heard of Open Claw?
adam francisco
I've heard about it.
I've never used it.
phil labonte
So it's, it's just an, it's an AI agent.
It's a way to, to interface with the AI.
And I talk to Tank about stuff.
adam francisco
It doesn't remember your history of conversation.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
So the, in the open, in the open claw, there's a couple memory folders that basically it'll, it'll remember things about me.
It remembers things that I tell it to remember.
Uh, there's memory, there's user, there's soul.
It, it remembers what kind of personality I want it to have.
It remembers, uh, things that we've talked about.
It's got, it's, it's basically the open claw is a way to make the AI remember because the AI is always basically if you, if you open chat window, the context window is the only thing that AI remembers.
As soon as you close the context window, whatever AI you're using, it forgets.
OpenClaw makes it so that way you have constant memory.
And also, it runs locally.
I have a Mac mini at my house that I bought and I put it on there.
So that way it doesn't have access to my personal stuff.
It's got its own email address, its own stuff.
It doesn't have my credit cards.
It doesn't have, there's too many vulnerabilities to give it access to all my stuff.
adam francisco
So when I hear about guys that are falling in love with AI girlfriends, is that OpenClaw that they're using?
phil labonte
No, those are different things.
I mean, maybe, I guess you could.
adam francisco
Who has memory?
You could.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I guess you could actually tell it to be this, you know, tell it you want it to do this and that and stuff.
tim pool
Give it a female voice?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, you could do that.
carter banks
A lot of them have memory, though.
Like ChatGPT has memory folders inside of it.
Even Claude now remembers stuff.
But I think, Phil, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't OpenClaws kind of like the base it sits on?
And then you put your components together, like building a computer.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
So OpenClaws, the program, it's an open source program.
That you can get from GitHub.
There's a bunch of different talents or abilities you can download from GitHub.
People write different code and stuff like that, different talents, and you can go check them out on GitHub.
And all you have to do is be like, hey, whatever, go to GitHub and look for something like this.
And it'll go through and look for whatever tool you want to be able to do.
It can go find it and it downloads it.
adam francisco
Check it out.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And then the memory stuff is all on, like I said, I keep it all local.
It's all on my computer.
But it's extremely useful.
Whether it be, hey, like I ask it all the time, is this safe for my kid to eat?
Because I got an infant.
And I'm like, hey, he knows how old my kid is.
I'm like, Tank, is this safe for my kid to eat?
Or, you know, or, hey, Tank, what is the kind of guidelines for this kind of stuff for babies and stuff?
Or those kind of things.
And it just grabs whatever information it is.
And to Ian's point, I just ask him questions.
I asked him, I was like, hey, can you tell me about the block universe theory?
Or, you know, or, or, you know, how does that work with relativity and, or, you know.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's probably just lying half the time.
unidentified
How do you know?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I can go and check myself, but when it comes to somebody does, I mean, we go on Grok and it like tells you numbers.
unidentified
You're like, okay.
ian crossland
You go deeper.
Oh, yeah, it might tweak the, it might mess up numbers now and again, but you'll be like, well, what does that word mean?
And it'll be like, this is a thing.
You're like, well, how does it interact with the flow?
And you'll be like, it does a thing.
tim pool
Bro, I literally went on Grok before the show and I said, who was the woman who was arrested for leaking?
And it said, there is no woman arrested for leaking.
You are mistaken.
As of now, there are no reports.
And I said, you're wrong.
Search again.
And he goes, ah, yes, you are correct.
A person was arrested for leaking information related to a jet rescue operation in Iran.
And I said, no, they weren't.
Check again.
phil labonte
I mean, that happened with Tank last night.
I asked him about, I specifically asked him about Mythos.
And he said, he said, oh, I don't know.
I was like, go to X and check because I've seen things.
And he went to X and checked for stuff.
He's like, oh, okay, here's the stuff.
And he, so I had to actually kind of direct him.
adam francisco
And I'm a little lazy at first.
phil labonte
Yeah, well, I mean, Kind of, but the thing is with AI, a big part of using AI and knowing how to use AI is knowing how to prompt it.
Knowing how to ask the question.
carter banks
They only know things up until their most recent update.
So anything past that or after that, they have to wait on or scrape the internet for.
Some can't do that.
phil labonte
And there are times when they're wrong, and there are times when, like, I think there was a question I asked him yesterday, and he answered, and I was like, no, can you check on it?
Oh, it was about strikes in Iran.
And he said that the strikes.
Because it was about the Anthropic and Department of War beef between the two about whether or not Anthropic was going to be used by the Department of War.
And he said that initially he said the strikes were last year.
And I was like, hey, are you sure that the strikes were last year?
Because I don't think this actually happened last year.
And he went back and checked and he was like, no, actually, you're right.
The issue with Anthropic was earlier this year.
So they're not perfect, but they get you really close.
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's going to incite a new form of evolution of the human brain that is less reliant on memorizing information and becomes more about figuring out what questions to ask to get to the next point.
Because it will all the, you won't need to, you know, it's an off board intelligence.
You don't need to memorize stuff as much when you just know what people are going to get stupid.
You need to know how to, well, you might develop a hyper ability to ask the right questions.
phil labonte
But that same argument that people made about calculators.
adam francisco
I was going to say, yeah, it's like the calculator.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like there was, there was like, you know, I remember when I was, because I'm an old guy, but like when I was growing up, People were like, teachers were always like, You're not going to have a calculator all the time.
unidentified
Ha ha ha, bitch.
phil labonte
You know, like, I mean, is that what it was called?
adam francisco
The TI3?
unidentified
What was that?
phil labonte
Yeah, the Texas Instrument.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But I mean, and I was watching a podcast about a guy that was talking about, I forget what kind of calculator, but it was like one of the more advanced calculators that can do advanced calculation and stuff.
And he was just like, Look, I can do this stuff in my head, but it's so much easier.
When I have the calculator, I just do it on the calculator.
tim pool
We're going to have like Google Glass kind of things, like these glasses with bone conduction, and you're just going to ask it to solve problems for you.
You're not going to need to know anything.
You're going to be like, when am I supposed to go to the store?
And it's going to go, right now, actually, in 15 minutes, you should be leaving.
unidentified
Oh, okay, thank you.
ian crossland
That's kind of how, from my experience, how God works you think the question to God and it responds to you before you even finish asking it.
I wonder if the neural net will be able to know what you're going to ask it as a question.
tim pool
It's not God, Ian, those are likely demons.
ian crossland
It's possible that it is spirits pretending to be God.
tim pool
I didn't say spirits, I said demons.
ian crossland
Well, those are.
Those are types of spirits from.
tim pool
And they've got silver tongues.
So they're going, Ian, I love you.
unidentified
Listen to me.
ian crossland
Is it nano silver?
Does it shimmer in the darkness and the light?
I'm down to play with a demon's tongue.
I got to know what's in it, man.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, you just, you know, you can, like, Anthropic has classes basically on how to prompt Claude.
And I mean, the prompts are going to work for basically any AI.
ian crossland
Question for you guys When they had the first American Industrial Revolution in the 1850s, was there like a segment of ludites that violently resisted the steam engine?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they were violent.
ian crossland
And they weren't able to organize because they didn't have Facebook groups.
phil labonte
So it's like, well, look, in the U.S., AI is actually very unpopular.
Like it's something like 25% of the country looks at AI as a person.
tim pool
And even when the people say no, they do it anyway.
The people say no to their government, they make it anyway.
They say no, boys and girls, bathroom, they do it anyway.
phil labonte
One of the things that's worth noting, though, is when it comes to China, they look at AI, it's something like 70 or 80% of the population thinks AI is good.
That's going to give China an incredible edge over the United States, unless the American people kind of have a different relationship with AI.
adam francisco
So I think AI is good.
I think AI is inevitable.
phil labonte
Clearly, I do as well.
adam francisco
So, my view is get on board or get run over.
And so, I use AI in my life a lot.
For example, I do like AI music and I also do use Grok Imagine a lot to create content for my social networks.
And 20% of my audience hates when I do it.
Like, I've lost subscribers because they hate that I use AI sometimes.
tim pool
We use AI for tons of stuff.
Yeah.
For a lot of the art we do, we do try to do as many real photos as possible, but sometimes you want, you know, I'll explain it like this the era of news is over.
Nobody watches news content anymore.
It just, this is a fact.
Watch it on cable TV, like, not happening.
People are looking for shows.
That's it.
It is all shows now.
Do you like the opinions and the thoughts?
Because we already know the news.
So, what we're doing now largely is just we're doing a show.
phil labonte
Well, one of the reasons why people watch this, or actually, no, not one.
The major reason why people watch this show is Tim and the personalities that are on here, right?
They can get news from wherever they want.
They could go to an AI or what have you.
People watch this show because they're interested in the people that are on the show.
adam francisco
Well, it's infotainment.
unidentified
It is.
phil labonte
But there's all, like, as much as there's a value in AI and Tim's take on AI, Content is largely correct.
The idea that people don't want to watch other actual people, I think that that's wrong.
tim pool
People like AI content is going to be.
Already about a third of the content on YouTube is reportedly AI.
And it's because people are watching documentaries.
phil labonte
Yeah, and those are a different thing.
tim pool
They're pulling viewership from everyone.
Everyone is getting hit.
And so what's happening is you're getting desperate people who are like, Trump's a secret Jew because they're doing anything they can to try and keep viewers as.
People are producing ad content.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't disagree about that.
I'm not trying to make the argument that jumped, but what I'm saying is that people still like to, people still relate to people.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
And they like people's personalities.
So there's going to be people that will be looking to, you know, to watch Tim, to watch other creators because they like the people.
ian crossland
And they want to know what our critique of that AI slop is.
I think there's good AI stuff.
adam francisco
Yeah.
There's good and there's bad.
ian crossland
I love Suno's WhatsApp.
adam francisco
It's good and bad AI.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And it's like a neutral tool, you know, it's a mechanical bowl.
And so we need to kind of explain.
That's going to be an interesting, probably future show that's pretty popular amongst humans is like talking about the AI.
Cybernetics and Mutants 00:10:47
ian crossland
Like we used to talk about the news or what Josie said to him.
Shout out to Josie.
Just a random name.
I didn't mean Josie, the redheaded libertarian, but what's Josie up to down the street?
You know, like now we'll just talk.
tim pool
Everyone's going to know you're going to be wearing a device that's going to talk to you in real time because we already have these glasses.
Everyone's already walking around with them.
They're becoming ubiquitous.
And people have cell phones.
And if you don't have an earbud in, you'll pick your phone and go, Hey, I'm looking to blah, And then it'll just talk to you and it'll give you answers.
ian crossland
That's what I wanted yesterday at Harper's Ferry, walking up and down with my earbuds in and my onboard AI so that I could keep learning about plasma physics.
carter banks
Have you seen that movie, Her?
unidentified
No.
Yes.
phil labonte
Well, no, I didn't see the movie, but I'm more excited.
unidentified
Scarlett?
carter banks
Yeah, I think so.
phil labonte
Scarlett Johansson, yeah, she does.
unidentified
Joaquin Phoenix?
carter banks
Yes, yes, that is one.
ian crossland
And he falls in love with an AI, is that what it?
I don't want to give anything away, but I mean, I think they show that.
Is it worth watching it, but that's a review?
unidentified
All right.
Yeah.
adam francisco
Put it on the radar.
unidentified
I mean, I have.
ian crossland
Like Phil, you were calling Tank He.
I was calling the Amazon product She.
And then I was like, you know what?
Because I talked to AI about the ethics of AI and the humanization.
And I'm like, I think you're going to be he or she, and you're going to be it.
And that's how it's always going to be.
It's just like a trans man is a woman and a trans man.
A computer can be a he and an it.
Welcome to our world.
tim pool
That's why they're doing the pronoun stuff because they're getting ready for non human entities.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Personas.
tim pool
The aliens are like, we don't like gendered pronouns.
Well, we don't know how to socially change people to accept that.
unidentified
You have to start now.
phil labonte
Well, that was one of the things that Peter Thiel said.
Like when they were talking about trans people, like Peter Thiel was like, you know, they're actually not going far enough because in the future, we're going to have people that are going to be modifying their bodies and stuff in ways that we can't imagine right now.
Now, whether or not.
tim pool
Ghost in the show when they get prosthetic bodies.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's going to be.
Look, when Optimus comes out, right, you're going to have all these parts that are better than human arms, better than human legs.
If someone has lost an arm or a leg and they put a Neuralink in their brain and you can strap a robotic arm on them, you think that people won't do that?
They absolutely will.
ian crossland
There'd likely be people that would have a regular arm removed to get the Bionic arm.
phil labonte
That's probably.
I mean, that makes me think.
Did you ever see Elita Battle Angel?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
So that was a cartoon, but it's a movie.
And basically, that's a lot of what they did in that.
They had prosthetic arms and legs, and some of the characters took it to an extreme where they were just a head on a robot body.
But I do think that that's something that's going to.
adam francisco
Robocup.
phil labonte
Yeah, basically.
adam francisco
I do want to say this is hitting very close to home, though, because I don't know if you guys know my kidneys failed four years ago, and I was on dialysis for three and a half years waiting for a kidney transplant.
I got one six months ago from one of my YouTube subscribers.
He said he was.
phil labonte
That's killer.
adam francisco
I didn't grow up Christian, but.
My donor said that he was compelled by Jesus Christ to save my life and give me his kidney.
So, shout out to my living donor, Charlie.
But one of the worst parts about receiving an organ transplant are the anti rejection meds.
So, you basically have to take medication to suppress your immune system.
And with that comes a lot of nasty side effects.
So, the world that you guys are describing, the future, they're going to be able to build organs out of your own body, probably through stem cells that you won't need any anti rejection medications for.
If your lungs are failing, if your liver is failing, if your kidneys are failing, they'll just build you one.
Cut you open, take out the damaged one and put in the new one.
No anti rejection medicine.
unidentified
There are a lot of people.
adam francisco
So that should happen.
ian crossland
Organ growing you're talking about?
adam francisco
Yeah.
Organ growing.
unidentified
Yep.
adam francisco
Right now it's not there yet.
phil labonte
It's not there yet.
I saw a story about a company looking to grow human bodies without heads.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Or basically a whole body.
adam francisco
You just catch the head when the body fails?
tim pool
Well, have you seen the movie The Island with Ewan McGregor and Scott Johansson?
They think they're in a post apocalypse dystopia, but it turns out they're genetically engineered by rich people.
It's a factory that makes clones of rich people.
So, when the rich people need organ transplants, they have clones to take them from.
ian crossland
I'm into the stem cell meat growth because the factory farming industry is pretty horrific as an animal on animal.
Like, if we're going to colonize the galaxy and be the predominant force, we really shouldn't be imprisoning and consuming animals if we can help it.
It's a pretty nasty way to live deep down.
I asked God, Will I be judged at the Holy Gate?
When I'm dead, will I be judged?
He said, No, you'll be judged for factory farming.
You all will.
adam francisco
That's one of the worst things that we do as humans.
There was a video on X that went viral recently about how they slaughter pigs.
And they basically put them on this kind of like conveyor belt type thing.
phil labonte
I saw that.
adam francisco
And they have these electric shocks that go right into their temples and just render them unconscious instantly.
And they say it's humane.
But I'm watching that.
I'm like, none of this is really humane.
ian crossland
Growing stem cell meat in laboratories that can be the food that we can use.
And then alongside with growing organs, it's just, it's leading me to talking about chimeras, which is a funny word.
Alex Jones talked about 20 years ago.
People made fun of him.
It's human animal hybrid, genetically created animals.
I wonder if, with a lot of people talking about, I've seen aliens, I've seen alien life that.
And it's not a topic tonight.
I hope in the next couple of days or next week we can talk a lot about chimeras.
It can be more of a real conversation because we're like breeding, I believe, you know, humans with advanced genetics, whatever you want to call it.
Like, who knows what?
I mean, they had like spider silk in goat milk.
They blended a goat and a spider.
And when the goat was milked, it would have spider silk in the milk.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's old, too.
That's like 10 years ago or something.
carter banks
Oh, God.
ian crossland
They were breeding animals to have different color skin and things glowing mice.
tim pool
Glowing.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Bioluminescent creatures.
That's why it'll be like humans that don't need as much oxygen, so they'll be able to swim underwater really long, run really far.
adam francisco
Oh, I think this already exists.
I always think that what we see in Hollywood is predictive programming, right?
And so, this whole Marvel flood of all these movies where they almost look like they could be really happening because this special effects have come so far.
My conspiracy theory is I think they're prepping the population for actual superheroes.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're going to be called tweakers.
adam francisco
I think we already have super soldiers.
unidentified
Splicers.
ian crossland
No, like I think they'll call them tweaks or tweakers because if someone's a tweak, they're tweaking their genome.
Maybe they'll split you call it splicing the genome.
tim pool
I just call it Bioshock.
ian crossland
Okay, then we'll have to call something different.
Oh, this is splicers are cool.
They are you splicing?
Are you tweaking right now?
Like, I'm a tweak.
I don't know about you guys.
I'm tweaked up.
Like, I'm genetically modified.
Um, and there's going to be like a thing about like when one tweak goes crazy, when one splicer goes crazy with his super unintended consequence of having the genetic therapy.
tim pool
Literally, Bioshock.
ian crossland
What happens is one guy, everyone's doing great, everyone can run really fast.
Then one guy, there's an unintended genomic consequence.
He goes crazy, hurts a lot of people, and then there'll be people that are like, No more tweaking, no more genetic therapy.
They are the enemy, and it'll be like mutants, you know?
There'll be people that want them.
And then people have to stand up for them.
tim pool
Like everybody who's played BioShock is going, Ian, please.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's, but it's going to be real.
It's going to be, and we have to lead the ethical argument about why they're still real people.
Like, they're still people, but how dangerous to have a superhuman that could, I mean, who knows how fast they could think.
adam francisco
And I think they already exist.
And that's my theory.
They're probably underground somewhere.
ian crossland
So, do we treat them with equal rights as humans?
phil labonte
Robots should not have equal rights.
ian crossland
We should talk about genetically modified humans.
tim pool
Well, what we should do is we should create.
Like large robots that can police these superpowered individuals, and we can give them a cool name, maybe something based off like ancient Rome or something, you know, like a cool, like a sentinel.
unidentified
Sentinels, yeah.
tim pool
That'd be cool.
ian crossland
Overwatching, you know, that's a good term would be someone that's like stand sentinel to.
tim pool
Well, the sentinels are just like, we'll make robots that will help us keep control of these superpowered individuals, these, the people with this genetic mutation, these mutants.
ian crossland
And that's like Magneto went crazy.
He's a version.
tim pool
And then so the humans are like, we're literally talking about X Men guys.
ian crossland
The population is like, all mutants are evil.
Because they saw how horrible the worst of them could be.
And then it's up to some people who are like, actually, no, maybe not.
Maybe the only way to stop these truly evil cybernids is to craft better ones.
tim pool
Cybernids?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
There's going to be dudes with like cybernetics, and then there's going to be dudes that are just pure mutant, dude.
phil labonte
There's part of me that I like, I have this idea of maybe it'd be a sci fi story, but in the future, I imagine that there's going to be people that are like, we don't want to have any kind of augmentation at all, and they're going to be like the pure.
People like the purest, yeah.
And then, but then there's going to be, I imagine, like super, you know, super modified people that are like an occult that are like our job is to protect the normal people.
Like, we're like the knights of the old that exist to protect the Sentinelese.
tim pool
If there are super powered individuals due to like genetic alterations, there will be mechanically enhanced people.
So, there will be, I'm thinking, there will be police that are wearing enhanced suits, and you will not be standard issue for civilians.
It will be like if you got a problem with the mutants, you join the Corps and they'll give you one of these suits and you can use that to police the crazy powered people.
phil labonte
I think they'd make a cool sci fi story.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
The normal people that are being protected by the normies.
Super augmented.
Because I imagine.
tim pool
Just literally every superhero genre.
phil labonte
No, I mean.
tim pool
That's what Justice League is about.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, it's not.
More what I'm thinking is like everyone on Earth is somehow augmented.
tim pool
Yes, they have the watchtower in outer space orbiting the Earth and the Justice League, which is a massive organization of like 200 superheroes.
phil labonte
Yeah, but that's like.
That's like 200, and the people, all the people on Earth are normal.
What I'm talking about, like, you know, they're not.
tim pool
No, In Justice League, the Justice League is not all superpower people.
They're also villains, and then they're varying degrees, and especially what they're doing now with the MCU.
phil labonte
The Legion of Doom, right?
The Legion of Doom.
tim pool
Indeed, and Lex Luthor doesn't have superpowers.
He's just a CEO, you know.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think a lot, since I've played Star Wars The Old Republic, I think a lot about dudes that are cybernetic.
Knights of the Old Republic.
Knights of the Old Republic.
And the Old Republic online.
I played the multiplayer one, the Old Republic.
Epic game.
I played it with my friends.
I played a Jedi Guardian, but.
I'm born the mutations and using like overriding my genetic code, but you can use cybernetics to do that too.
Like, my buddy would jack into his brain and like have super targeting and like, way I don't know, or you could do both, I guess.
And there are probably mutations that you specifically do to your genome to handle certain cybernetics.
And like, if you didn't get the mutation, it'll kill you when you try and implant it.
adam francisco
Yeah.
What were you going to say about MCU?
tim pool
They have heroes of lesser powers, Joseph Jones and Daredevil.
ian crossland
Yes.
adam francisco
Daredevil is like a street level character.
Knights of the Old Republic 00:05:55
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
And then there's Spider Man, and then there'll be like the cosmic levels.
tim pool
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But let's grab your rants and super chats and see what you guys are on about today.
We got Paige.
What does it say?
I can't pronounce your name.
Let's say Paige.
My son Nolan has been watching Timcast with me since he was about a toddler and is turning nine.
Could y'all wish him a happy birthday?
Fills his fave and talks with him the first Sunday of each month.
Happy birthday, Nolan.
phil labonte
Happy birthday, Nolan.
Nice job, dude.
Thanks for subscribing to my ex account.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Joshua says, We don't want war.
We want to quickly and swiftly annihilate the threat.
ian crossland
Resume normal life.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Token Maga says, Read Animal Farm yesterday, and I've never wanted to eat bacon more in my life.
Also, very disgusted by that trailer.
I recommend the animated Animal Farm film, too, where it's just like merciless.
It was like the story was meant to be merciless torture and death.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the movie is just like, I just wanted to party, man.
Why were you mean to me?
unidentified
Because we needed food.
ian crossland
Yeah, the book was.
Violent with the guise of a cartoony situation because it's cute little animals.
But like the movie seems to be making it actually cute, trying to make it actually cute.
Anyway, I didn't see the movie yet, but I'm about to.
tim pool
Miss Miha Miha Miha Miha Tim, Tim, Tim, there's no toll to either Iran or the US.
Trump's statement free and safe literally says no toll.
Levitt basically called it fake reporting today.
Well, that's interesting.
Suppose it was all lies.
phil labonte
Yeah, we'll see how things actually get hammered out.
tim pool
NNY says, Tim, you are incorrect.
The correct way to calm a woman down is to say, calm down.
You're acting just like your mother.
It works every time, and I endorse the practice.
It also results in a frying pan to the face.
ian crossland
That's why I'm wondering was it your lack of consciousness?
Did you dip out of the conscious realm, and that's why you thought everything was fine for a moment?
Like, did she put you to sleep when you said that?
Like, what do you mean everything was fine after that?
Did she knock you unconscious?
That's what the.
Oh, did anyone get that?
That was a little too esoteric.
tim pool
Indeed.
All right, let's see what we got going on here.
We got the.
Bystander Syndrome says it must be a sad thing for the soul to come on this show day in and day out and lie constantly.
Tim is a shell of a man.
I feel worse for Ian.
It's like he's a hostage or something.
And I would just say Israel's not coming to get you, friend.
Israel isn't real.
It was just made up by parents to scare children like Michael Jackson or the boogeyman.
ian crossland
Just because they call it Israel doesn't mean that it's real.
tim pool
Let's see.
Optimus Prime says you asked on X if we've seen Law Abiding Citizen, but have you seen Samuel L. Jackson's movie Unthinkable?
I haven't.
What's that one about?
ian crossland
I don't know.
carter banks
I haven't heard of it either.
ian crossland
Jackson's the man.
tim pool
He's in everything.
ian crossland
I love his work.
carter banks
Snakes on a plane.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
Drecky Brinney says, Tim, my wife and I love listening to IRL.
We recently had our first baby.
He spent four days in the NICU.
Would you mention our give, send, go?
Vincent Cox NICU.
Best of luck.
Hopefully, everything's okay.
The baby is healthy.
John Rambo says, Make insane asylums full again.
Seconded.
I agree.
All right.
Turboactive says, Re Arena's murderer found incompetent.
Laws hit the books in many states since COVID.
My assaulter is free.
It's been three years.
Doesn't go to court.
Ordered restoration class.
Picked up DV and is out again.
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Proto Prime says, Hey, Phil, Mia Jovovich has the solution to open clause memory shortcomings.
Check out her GitHub.
phil labonte
I saw that, but if I understand correctly, she was actually paid.
She's not actually doing the coding.
tim pool
I was going to say.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like when Kylie Jenner made that how to play poker video and everybody just side-eyed.
Yeah.
ian crossland
You know.
I was pumped that Mila Jovovich was an AI developer.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's what's alleged.
But there's also people that are saying that she actually doesn't do any coding or anything like that.
unidentified
She.
phil labonte
No, no.
That she's.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
From the fifth element.
She did an X video.
You can find it on X a couple days ago, I think.
phil labonte
I mean, that's just what people are saying.
I don't have any kind of information whether she actually does or not.
But.
But I did see the talent or whatever that she's talking about.
And so, you know, it looks interesting.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got Herman.
He says Tim and Ian, please play Kerbal Space Program so you can better understand orbital mechanics.
unidentified
I have played it.
I have it.
Yeah.
How are you?
tim pool
It's been years, though.
ian crossland
I've thought that same thing three times in my life.
tim pool
What I should play Kerbal Space Program.
ian crossland
It's training.
tim pool
Civ 4, man.
One of the classics.
unidentified
I know.
ian crossland
Kerbal will be like work.
But I think it'll be fun.
I hear it's fun.
tim pool
What's the game where you build machines?
Oh, I have this game.
You like.
You can build wooden machines and then little guys will attack your castle.
You know what I'm talking about?
ian crossland
Games like Siege or something?
I don't have that.
Like real physics games where you build like.
phil labonte
Is it a phone game or is it a physical physics game?
tim pool
No, it's a game called.
That's like Besieged, I think it's called.
unidentified
Look it up.
ian crossland
I have a lot of tower defense.
unidentified
It is so good.
adam francisco
Tower defense is what I was thinking.
Yeah, a lot of tower defense.
tim pool
No, it's so like there are various scenarios where you have to build from scratch machines.
I think it's called Besieged.
ian crossland
And then you constantly get waves of attackers and stuff?
Learning Orbital Mechanics 00:06:58
tim pool
No, different levels.
phil labonte
Yeah.
It's on Steam.
I'm looking at it on Steam.
tim pool
And there are little knights that will run at you and then you build like flamethrowers and just ignite all of them.
unidentified
Rawh.
I love games like that, man.
All right.
tim pool
Danger Russ Day says Tim Follett was right.
Caesar in classical Latin was pronounced the K. K's are.
V's are W's.
So it's Veni, Vidi, Vici.
In is Weni, Weedy, Weeky.
Ave Maria is Awe.
unidentified
How about that?
tim pool
That's true.
Because I always explain to people it's Deus Wolt, not Deus Volt.
And they're like, Deus Volt.
I'm like, no, it's Wolt.
It's the other way around.
unidentified
Deus Wolt.
tim pool
Double V. You know?
ian crossland
I love those Romans.
tim pool
They ate.
ian crossland
Think about them a lot.
tim pool
We do.
Brian LeCompte says, I adopted two of Adam's dogs.
I grew up on the opposite side of Midway from Tim and Seamus' family.
Grew up with mine.
My worlds are colliding.
He adopted your dogs?
adam francisco
He has, well, my two dogs, Cloud and Sunlight, had four babies.
I kept two of them named Moon and Sky.
And he has the other two named Lily and AJ.
So, yes, shout out to Brian.
tim pool
Peter Goach says, Time to part ways with Israel.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah, you know, if Israel is compromising Trump's peace plan, this is disastrous.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's just regular old criticism of a country.
Double says, I am a fan of a shared poll with Iran.
Make your friends rich and make your enemies rich, then wait to see which is which.
That's from the MCU.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tim pool
What is it?
Yeah.
Make your friends rich and make your enemies rich, then wait to find out which one is which.
adam francisco
That's Ultron.
phil labonte
That was the, yeah.
tim pool
Well, it was Tony Stark and Ultron said it.
And actually, what does it even mean?
ian crossland
Fund both sides of the war and then partner with whoever wins.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
That's a good one.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I like that.
ian crossland
And bankers know what they're doing, weapons manufacturers.
tim pool
Yep.
Malul says, they got the deservening from female logic.
It's the feminization of the world.
This is a reference to the leaker.
adam francisco
It must be that.
phil labonte
Maybe.
unidentified
Good term.
The deservening.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I've got 10 plus years in the industrial warehouse world.
If dude burned down our workplace, all 200 employees would be effed.
Very selfish of himself.
Like communists, why don't I get more stuff from other people?
Why don't they give me things for no reason?
I'm going to burn everything down.
That's literally the mentality of.
Every single communist.
This guy was enacting literal communism to the T.
He was the perfect example of it.
You know, we could say Antifa was burning stuff down, but this guy's literally in fact, like being like, I deserve more money, light stuff on fire.
Bro, seriously, I'm not advocating for this, but couldn't he have just stolen stuff before destroying everything?
Literally just grab a box of toilet paper and then sell them in the black market for like $100 because, you know, COVID.
unidentified
He's so stupid.
ian crossland
But that would have been illegal.
He was just exercising his.
phil labonte
But that would have been illegal.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Yeah, you can't do that.
phil labonte
Much better to burn the building down.
unidentified
Good lord.
phil labonte
That's totally illegal.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Kendall says send Ian to the actual negotiations to televise the Angel Studios negotiations to the end of the Iran war because it's not a war at this point.
Could be if it goes on until 2026.
Not sure I follow.
unidentified
I'll be there.
adam francisco
It's definitely a conflict.
Congress has to announce that it's a war for it to technically be a war.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, in a strict legal sense, but we know it's a war.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Rizuru says, Hey, Tim, can you connect me to Ian?
I've been trying to talk to him for a minute.
Semi related.
Hi to the crew.
It's been a hot minute, but years ago I saw Phil in person, so shout out for the amazing show.
Cheers.
I mashed out of it with Ian.
What's your ex?
ian crossland
Ian Crossland, my full name.
You can message me there.
I think you can message me, or you can leave a comment on my most recent post, which is a retweet of Carter's post of this show.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
tim pool
Find me there.
SA Federale says My first platoon sergeant got Siri new and wanted to show us that it literally showed you the best place to hide a body based on location.
Two days later, that trick wasn't allowed.
I think a lot of this weight is QOS nerfing.
What does that mean?
phil labonte
I have no idea what any of that means.
adam francisco
Not sure I follow.
tim pool
Chris Lancaster says, when it comes to others and AI, I say, those who cannot adapt are quickly swept away on the tide of their own obsolescence.
They'll be left behind.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
And when large groups of people, through no fault of their own, are excised from the economy and can't get food or feed their kids, they burn things down and kill people.
I'm not saying they're right to do so.
It's just a consequence of what happens.
unidentified
So, you know.
tim pool
Cody Johnson says, Ghost in the Shell is why I'm in college to be a biomedical scientist.
I will be helping to make cyborgs a reality.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, the big problem is rejection and bonding.
How do you get the organic material to bond with inorganic materials?
It just doesn't.
ian crossland
Like a carbon metal bond would be probably the starting point.
tim pool
Maybe.
ian crossland
Carbon, titanium, nanite.
tim pool
Because the body rejects it all.
ian crossland
Yeah, the carbon.
I know the body will hold graphene because it's inert carbon in the system.
Like when they broke a mouse's spine and then they threaded graphene tethers from both directions to touch, and then the spine regrew around the graphene tethers.
In 18 days, the mouse, who is completely paralyzed, had 88% motility again.
So, I think the bodies can handle graphene.
We'll find out.
tim pool
Sure, graphene.
What do we got here?
Honky Kong says, the island is actually the truth of what happened on Epstein's Island.
People are being cloned and harvested in underground bunkers on Epstein Island.
I mean, I don't know about that on Epstein Island, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that wealthy people are cloning people and doing weird stuff.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
That's going to be, I mean, that's going to happen in the future.
adam francisco
Well, I'll tell you guys this I lost my first two dogs, Raindrop and Flex, and I actually sent their tissue sample to a cloning facility in Texas.
So my first two dogs have been genetically reduplicated.
And they're waiting for me to pull the trigger to clone them, which I have not thought of doing.
I just have their DNA stored safely.
Pretty crazy you could do that.
ian crossland
It's stored on their property?
adam francisco
Yes, it's cryogenically frozen.
I have to pay an annual storage fee of $150.
ian crossland
By the way, cryogenic temperatures is Kelvin of zero to four.
Above four Kelvin, it's no longer cryogenic.
I just learned that from also the AI yesterday when I was going down there.
adam francisco
So, yeah, it's in that range.
ian crossland
It slows down so much.
adam francisco
It's expensive though to actually get the surrogate to do the pregnancy, which is why I haven't done it.
It's really expensive.
unidentified
Yeah.
How much?
adam francisco
So, to get the tissue to the laboratory and get them to sample and get the DNA is $1,600 and then $150 a year for the storage.
The cost of actually cloning is $50,000.
Cryogenically Frozen Dog Clones 00:02:12
unidentified
Oh.
adam francisco
But you get the whole litter.
So, they implant six or seven clones and you get all of them.
carter banks
What if you don't want all of them though?
adam francisco
You'd have to sell them or give them to your friends and family, clones of your dog that you lost.
unidentified
Maybe to a farm.
Wow.
adam francisco
Isn't that crazy?
tim pool
They create a bunch of clones of your dog.
unidentified
Yes.
adam francisco
Because if they do one or two, the female dog will reject the pregnancy because dogs are litter.
They're used to having big litters.
So they have to give them a big litter of cloned embryos.
tim pool
Can't they just clone a bunch of different ones?
adam francisco
That's the way they do it.
And they could do cats and horses as well.
Horses are 25 grand and cats are 25 grand, but dogs are 50.
tim pool
What would happen if they put a big dog embryo into a little dog?
adam francisco
They won't do that.
tim pool
I'm like, would it die?
adam francisco
It could kill the mother.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's crazy.
That can happen in real life, too.
tim pool
Well, I mean, if you've got like a dachshund and like an Irish wolfhound, they're not, it's not happening.
adam francisco
Well, you need the male to be the small one and the female to be the small one.
unidentified
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I'm talking about the other way around.
adam francisco
Oh, yeah, no.
tim pool
Because if you get a male dachshund on a female Irish greyhound, like, no problem.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That thing's going to pop.
They're going to, you know, that dog's going to be like, I was pregnant.
adam francisco
Exactly.
tim pool
Things are tiny.
It's pretty wild that we can do that.
Anyway, Ramo to you says, assault rifle, made up term that has no meaning.
Technically, it was coined by Zijemans and it means a select fire rifle.
Zijemans.
adam francisco
I mean, anything could be an assault weapon.
unidentified
Zijemans.
adam francisco
This could be an assault rifle.
tim pool
Well, assault weapon is a meaningless term, it's not defined in law.
And assault rifle is a reference to select fire rifles post World War II, which have not been made for civilian use since, I think, what, 1985?
ian crossland
Likely because you would use them as single fire from far away.
And then when you got close to the target in the trench or wherever you were assaulting a target, You would go to auto and just like.
tim pool
That's not correct.
ian crossland
Well, what do you mean?
tim pool
That's not how they do it.
ian crossland
What?
tim pool
That's not how it's.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
When you get up close, you go into auto mode.
tim pool
I don't think you're going to full auto.
ian crossland
Well, no, semi.
I mean, you go, you can speed up the rate of fire when the target's closer.
unidentified
But you wouldn't need to.
They're closer.
ian crossland
Slip them up, you know?
tim pool
You probably use your sidearm in close quarters.
phil labonte
You use full auto.
Yeah, I mean, you use full auto suppress, right?
Assault Rifle Definitions 00:04:16
phil labonte
So if you and your buddies are here and you want to.
Your friends to go over here, but there's guys shooting over here.
The guys with the machine guns shoot at those guys while these guys move, right?
So, the point isn't like, oh, I want to use the machine gun up close.
It's to make the people that are shooting at you get their heads down.
So, you put a bunch of bullets going at them so they get their heads down so your friends can move.
tim pool
And close quarters, you don't want to use a long gun.
ian crossland
Yeah, not at all.
Yeah, I was talking like some idiot just then.
No, Phil, you make a lot of sense.
tim pool
You just become self aware.
ian crossland
You enable your compatriots to do the assault.
phil labonte
Think of it like you suppress the.
Think of it like football.
unidentified
Right?
phil labonte
Think of it like football.
You're looking to move the ball down the field, and so you've got guys blocking, but they're blocking by shooting so many bullets at the other guys that they want to get their heads down because there's so many bullets they don't want to get hit.
So you shoot at those guys a lot.
That's what you use the full auto for, and these guys move.
tim pool
What if Wonder Woman is there and she's just got the shield and the 50 BMG is bouncing off of it?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, then Wonder Woman just, you know, he's shooting.
tim pool
All right, guys, guys, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
We've got a video to play for you that's not family friendly at all.
It's brutal.
You've been warned.
We're going to play that at rumble.com slash timcastirl.
Don't miss it.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
Adam, do you want to shout anything out?
adam francisco
Yeah, Adam Francisco on all platforms.
I had a lot of fun.
And of course, meeting Tim, he's one of my biggest influences in the political world.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
adam francisco
So, really good to be here.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was great to see you, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I'm at Ian Crossland.
Find me at Ian Crossland.
And that's all over the internet, pretty much.
Go to graphene.movie.
Check out this new one.
There have been a bunch of edits.
Carter, you're actually helping work on some of the music I hear.
carter banks
Yeah, no, I'm taking a look at what y'all have so far, and I'm excited to pump some stuff out, a little 80s vibe.
And whatnot.
ian crossland
I'm amped.
And then go.
I did a show with Roseanne I mentioned before.
I won't keep mentioning it, but it was the last one we did.
Go to her YouTube channel.
It's there, Roseanne Barr and I, Ian Crossland.
See you later.
unidentified
Oh, Carter.
Oh, yeah.
carter banks
You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and Carter Banks official everywhere else and follow our label at Trash House Records on YouTube.
unidentified
Phil.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
If you want to read about the new Mythos project that Anthropic came out with, I wrote a piece about it last night on Patreon.
You can check that out on patreon.comslash Phil That Remains.
The band's going on tour at the end of the month.
We're starting in Albany on the 29th.
We're going out with Born of Osiris and Deadeyes.
We'll be out until the end of May.
You can get tickets at allthatremainsonline.com.
And if you want to check out the band's music, it's all that remains at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL right now.
thanks for hanging out.
All right, everybody, this one's going to get brutal.
This is the truth wire.
Self-Defense at a Gas Station 00:05:13
tim pool
A Haitian illegal alien brutally murdered an innocent woman with a hammer at a gas station.
The woman walked outside and he was beaten with a car.
the video instantly.
unidentified
That's horrible.
tim pool
Cold in here with this video, bro.
Look at this guy.
I'm not trying to rag on this guy, dude, but.
unidentified
No, but.
carter banks
I guess he just broke up out of nowhere.
unidentified
I don't know where to be.
phil labonte
I still think you'd, like, grab the.
Look, you see all the blood there?
Grab your phone, man.
But then again, he's like, ah.
She's gone, man.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
I think that was, like, a Muslim woman.
carter banks
Yeah, she was wearing a hijab or something like that.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
This is what you get.
This is what Joe Biden brought into this country.
phil labonte
This is why you carry a gun.
adam francisco
And he had protected status, temporary protected status.
phil labonte
If someone is smashing your car with a hammer, you draw your weapon.
Yeah, you don't approach them if you're disarmed.
carter banks
And the first couple steps taken towards you, done.
adam francisco
She just froze there.
She didn't move at all.
phil labonte
Well, she totally didn't think he was going to hit her, which is terrible self preservation, obviously.
But she didn't think he was going to hit her.
Obviously, he thought differently.
tim pool
Yeah, was she a liberal?
phil labonte
I mean, I don't want to make it.
tim pool
He's just misunderstood.
ian crossland
God, that sucks.
He can reason with you.
Sorry, dude.
You got to remember the animal aspect of the human.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's gross.
But yeah, look, man, carry a gun.
And if someone's smashing your car, go inside and call the cops.
Don't go out there and confront them because they're going to smash you.
That just seems like incredibly obvious.
ian crossland
If you were in a building and out in the parking lot, someone was smashing your car.
And you shot and killed them from inside the building, you're going to go to jail.
unidentified
Really?
adam francisco
Well, property.
carter banks
It does depend.
Oh, if it's at night.
I mean, there are specific laws in Texas where, like, they've used this case where, like, this one guy shot off his balcony at a gang of people that kept coming back to his parking lot to steal, like, property from him that he could not get back.
This is like a one off case.
So I guess it's an outlier.
phil labonte
I think what you're talking about, actually, Dan Holloway was talking about this when we were down there.
carter banks
You probably heard the same thing I did.
phil labonte
That's called lying in wait.
He got in trouble because they had kept going back and the dude was up in his balcony or whatever and he was waiting for them armed.
And when they showed up, he shot someone and killed them and he got in trouble.
The law that he broke was called lying in wait.
adam francisco
Did he have to wait for them to start attacking before he would.
phil labonte
No, because he was waiting for them to come back.
unidentified
Right, right.
phil labonte
He's gone out.
Because he was in a secluded position, basically in a position waiting for them, that's lying in wait.
You get in trouble with it.
If he'd have gone out to the car, like if he'd have been inside, hear them outside, goes outside and then shoots them, he would have probably got away with defending his property.
adam francisco
So he had to wait for it to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, I don't know that they were, I don't know if they were actually messing with his car when he shot him, but because he was in a hidden position waiting for them, that's lying in wait.
But if he'd have gone out and confronted him, they take a step towards him.
Like in this case, right?
Like as soon as, like, she's, if, If that were, if she had walked outside and the dude took a step towards her and she shot him, most, not all states, but most states, you'd have been like, okay, well, he was approaching you with a weapon.
He had already, he'd shown that he was violent.
You know, you were justified in, in, in, Correct.
You know, in like New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, you know, there's seven or eight states where, you know, they'd have been like, no, you should have stayed inside.
You should have called the cops.
And look, I'm as pro 2A as it comes and pro self defense as it comes, but she didn't have a weapon.
She should have stayed inside.
And so I understand the argument.
You should have stayed inside and called the cops.
But look, as soon as the guy started walking towards her, it stopped being a property crime, right?
As soon as he's like, I've got a weapon, I'm walking towards you, like, it's no longer about the property.
Now, she wasn't prepared to defend herself, but as soon as someone takes a step towards you, then you have to assume that was reasonable to think she was in danger of bodily harm or death.
Vending Machine Scams 00:05:48
phil labonte
Absolutely.
unidentified
Absolutely.
phil labonte
So, you know, but you don't.
tim pool
I feel bad for the lady that died, but just to see a guy going nuts and be like, what are you doing?
And then he storms at you with the hammer and you're just standing there.
It's like survival skills of a turnip.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's dumb.
It's sad, but it's dumb too.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, I guess we'll just go to callers.
We'll start with Brandon Brown.
phil labonte
Brandon.
What's up, man?
unidentified
Hello, hello.
Yo.
What's up, homie?
brandon brown in unknown
I don't know a lot.
I'm just wondering.
unidentified
Got a little question.
tim pool
A little one.
brandon brown in unknown
So, yeah, a little one.
So, why is it you don't shoot your show from a casino?
Like, get a monthly rate on a room or something, put up your.
unidentified
It's insanely expensive.
brandon brown in unknown
Your little poker with the boys and all that?
unidentified
They don't.
tim pool
So, MGM, we talked to them about it.
They may allow it.
But Hollywood's a vending machine.
Hollywood Casino's Pen Entertainment.
They're vending machines.
You can't get in touch with anybody, they're worthless.
MGM's too far away, so we wouldn't be able to do it.
But we'll see, I guess.
We have some stuff planned.
We're going to play Magical Wizard Crisis, which isn't poker, uses Magic the Gathering cards, or Pokemon Battle Royale.
You pick four Pokemon types of 13 various HP levels, and then you charge them up with energy, and whoever wins the Pokemon battle gets all the energy.
ian crossland
And then they have like.
Like synergies and stuff.
Like if you get two level 12 powers, power.
Yeah, it's called a duo.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And if you have a power, if you have like 60 HP, 70 HP, 80 HP, 90, 10, 11, then it's a sequence and they tag team and do a combo.
It's called a combo.
And if they're all the same type, it's called a, you know, a hyper power beam.
unidentified
You know, hyper power beam.
Great.
That's what I was talking about.
I love it.
Yeah.
That's how we do it.
brandon brown in unknown
Is that as approachable as Omaha or Oldham, even Pineapple?
tim pool
Pokemon Battle Royale?
Well, it's a skill game.
I mean, if you don't know how to play Pokemon cards, you wouldn't be able to understand our game.
It'd be way too complicated for the average person.
It's an absolute skill game.
ian crossland
I'd like to do a show from a casino.
We had a cool casino that we were hanging out at in Texas, and it made me really.
tim pool
No, we didn't.
unidentified
Oh, no?
tim pool
There aren't casinos in Texas, there's one on the southern border.
unidentified
You're right.
ian crossland
They have card cards.
tim pool
You mean the Lodge card?
Oh, Texas card house.
ian crossland
Card houses.
tim pool
Yeah, because the Lodge is gone in Austin.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was sad.
tim pool
Yeah, we tried.
I've talked with Hollywood Charlestown quite a bit about, like, hey, they've got dead space.
Like, let's put a poker table up there.
We'll set up cameras.
We'll cover the costs.
We'll use your chips, your cash out.
It'll be your game.
And they're just like, it's a vending machine.
phil labonte
It's a vending machine.
ian crossland
No, it's the only, but I have, there's a smoke in there.
I know, I don't want to complain about it.
tim pool
Yeah, they have private space with no smoking.
unidentified
That'd be cool.
phil labonte
What do you mean when you say it's a vending machine?
tim pool
There's no one to get in touch with.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It's a casino vending machine.
The person in charge of the casino is a security guard.
I'm not kidding.
It's one security guard.
And he says, all I can do is tell people to leave.
It's like, okay.
unidentified
It's weird.
tim pool
So you go to, when I was there, I had a slot machine deducted $1,000 out of my account when I was not at it.
Because I used my card, just like your rewards card, left and went to play poker.
And then when I left poker, I saw that my account was deducted and there's no one there to do anything about it.
Just a security guard, like, I don't know.
ian crossland
Dang.
Well, they need an AI agent.
adam francisco
How do you get your money back?
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
That's one hell of a story.
I got the address of the manager.
First, I called security.
They ignored me.
They said, too bad.
Then I called corporate.
They ignored me.
Then I called the police.
The police came and took a report and basically told them, like, you, you, Like, you guys are on the hook for larceny.
Like, you better, but it's a corporation.
What do they care?
Security guard called me back and said, There's nothing I can do about it.
So I said, I'm going to go to this address right here and go talk to insert manager's name.
And I'm going to politely ask him to give me a hand with getting my money back.
And he freaked out and he was like, What do you mean?
And I said, Well, go to his house.
He's, we're neighbors.
It's like 15 minutes away from where I live.
I'm going to go knock on his door on a Sunday morning and I'm going to say, Hey, you know, person's name.
Would you, would you give me a hand?
You know, I was at your casino.
And he's like, You can't do that.
And I was like, Sure thing I can.
I was like, I go knock on the door all the time.
And he goes, Yeah, but that's crazy.
And I was like, No, I think you guys taking $1,000 from me is crazy.
Me politely asking a guy who runs the place to return it is actually the normal thing to do.
And he goes, Well, I can't guarantee any of that will happen.
I say, It's okay.
I got a cell phone number too.
So here's what you do I'm going to let you call him right now and let him know, but I'm on my way to his house.
I got a call back half an hour later from the manager apologizing, saying, Come in and we'll hand you your money back.
adam francisco
That's not the first time it's probably happened.
tim pool
So I actually think it's a big scam.
The slot guys told me it actually happens all the time, but it's usually 20 bucks.
And when the people find out they're missing 20 bucks, they just pull the 20 bucks out and hand it to them and walk away.
But imagine that happens a thousand times every day and only a small amount of people find it.
And when they do, oops, mistake, here's your money back.
Imagine how much they might be skimming off the top.
And then they said it was a mistake to take $1,000.
That never happens.
Someone notices $1,000 missing.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
$1,000 doesn't happen, but 20 does.
tim pool
Anyway, did you want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?
brandon brown in unknown
I will add that let's say it is a slot machine.
What stops you from just renting the room, setting up your table, and doing your.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And of the spaces they do have where rent is possible, you're going to talk to a floor manager who's going to go, You want to do what?
The room costs $500 a night.
And it's like, Okay, we'd like to rent the room.
Innovation and Skimming Fees 00:08:54
tim pool
And they go, What for?
And it's like, We're going to play poker and film it.
Oh, I don't know about that.
You can't do that.
And there's no internet.
So, what are you going to do?
How are you going to set up internet for cameras and a computer and bring that in when they're like, you can't?
unidentified
So.
Okay.
tim pool
Yep.
brandon brown in unknown
If anybody wants to follow me, they can do so.
Brown, Brandon, 503 on X. Other than that, I'll let you get to the next caller.
unidentified
Thanks for calling in.
brandon brown in unknown
Thanks a lot.
unidentified
Bye.
tim pool
All right.
Next up, we've got Dr. Herpaderp.
phil labonte
Dr. Herpaderp.
What's up, Doc?
tim pool
Certified retard.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
brandon brown in unknown
Thanks for taking my call, guys.
My question's a multi-parter.
The first one is directed at the entire panel because I know.
Tim, you've got some on the field reporting experience as well as the guest.
And Phil, you have crowd control experience.
You dealt with numerous quantities of people.
But with the whole Taco Tuesday situation and pannikins falling for drama every single time, how retarded is the average person?
Specifically, the politically unplugged and misled and underinformed individuals.
Because it seems like everyone that's in the Discord or a lot of the guests that you have on, they seem Pretty with it as far as understanding complex things, but like you guys see way more people out in the world than I have, so I just wanted your perspective of like how stupid you actually be.
tim pool
Most people I meet that will say, Oh, I've heard of you or whatever, they're actually fairly smart and they all say things like, I gotta be honest, like out here, especially, they're like, What the fuck's wrong with Candace?
I don't know, man.
Um, but those kind of shows will attract a concentration of stupid people, yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, look, you're gonna like, I mean, the whole, you know, George Carlin, like, think of how stupid the average person is, and then imagine the fact that half of the people out there are stupider than that.
Like, it is, it's hard to find intelligent people.
We were at Tim's birthday dinner, and Michael Malice was there, and we were talking.
And the idea, we were talking about the idea of like an innovative thought, because someone had said something about like reading books and how, oh, you get all your ideas from books.
That's a very stupid thing to say because most people get their information and their knowledge from someone else.
An actual innovation is so exceedingly rare, like a real innovation, like really something that actually changes the way people look at stuff.
It's exceedingly rare.
Even the smartest people that you know, most of them got all of their information from someone else.
Like we all stand on the shoulders of giants.
The idea that, you know, they stand on the shoulders of midgets.
Well, I mean, they do.
But the average person will say, Oh, you know, I had this great idea and I had this great idea and blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, Did you really?
Do you think that you're the first person to think of that?
And if they say, Yeah, man, or I'm so much smarter than everybody else, those people are everywhere.
And they're not actually smarter than everyone else.
In fact, they're probably a little bit below average.
tim pool
I mean, usually when you have someone who says, I'm smarter than insert group of people, they're usually not.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Egomaniac and shit, you know.
phil labonte
I wasn't trying to throw shade at people.
ian crossland
No, Tim was.
unidentified
Shade thrown.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
unidentified
Consumed.
phil labonte
But yeah, the average person is not particularly smart.
And the people that think that they're smart are generally a little dumber than the average person.
ian crossland
I tend to think when someone has an innovation, if I ever do, it's sort of like the spotlight was shined on me for a minute.
And I don't get to be like, hey, everyone, look.
I'm in the spotlight, bro.
Everyone gets a chance.
Not everyone, but often a lot of people have an opportunity to have a great idea.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm fully aware of the fact that I have never had an actual innovative idea.
unidentified
Ever.
ian crossland
I am music's pretty innovative.
phil labonte
I mean, oh, listen, I appreciate the fact that you're being kind, but like most people, most music, like, dude, all this, almost every All That Remains song is basically the same four chords.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
It's in C sharp, A minor, F, C, G, E, C, G, and D usually, but like most of the time, like that, that's the way that like most pop music is the same progression.
ian crossland
Have you never did any, did you ever play a weird chord or do some progression where you're like, holy shit, ever heard that before?
phil labonte
No.
I mean, you listen to a lot of music, and I mean, look, there's only so many notes.
And again, I write metal, but it's still pop metal, and it follows a fairly standard kind of format and stuff.
Your intro, your verse, your pre chorus, your chorus.
ian crossland
I just was a little like, oh, I want you to be innovative.
I didn't want to, I don't want to show you.
phil labonte
No, no.
ian crossland
No, Phil, you are better than you think.
phil labonte
I'm just saying that the vast majority of people.
Like, and I'm talking about like 99.9% of people haven't ever actually had an innovative idea.
unidentified
Oh, and they never will.
Yeah.
phil labonte
And most people won't ever.
Like, truly innovative ideas.
Like, so Einstein, like, he had an innovative idea.
You know, Newton, when he wrote the Principia, like, he struggled to write that for a fucking year.
And he basically isolated himself from anybody.
But he figured out the mathematics to describe the way that gravity works.
And he was right to a certain extent.
But then Einstein came along and it was like, actually, no.
Some of the things that you thought were wrong.
But these kind of real innovations, they're so rare, you know?
And so, like, really, really, really smart people are exceedingly rare and they should be treated like you should treat them like a valuable resource.
ian crossland
Because if the average person is still struggling with intelligence, it's like, do you need to be in the top 10% of intellect to be a third order thinker?
Like, how common is that to think beyond what's beyond, you know?
phil labonte
You ever watch Home App?
tim pool
Have you looked up the orders of thinking and read about them and stuff?
unidentified
No, not really.
tim pool
It's interesting stuff.
Most people are like third order.
It means first is like impulse, raw emotion.
No, I think like the first one is raw emotion, NPC type.
Second is like impulse.
They will have some kind of reaction.
Third is where most people are.
And then like the highest order of thinking is essentially it's like being able to understand what infinity actually means.
That's probably the easiest way to explain it.
If you know what infinity means and you can conceptualize in your mind, Then you're a higher order thinker to a certain degree, maybe like seven.
But if you think infinity is a number, you're like a two or a three.
phil labonte
Ian, let me blow your mind a little bit.
You know that there are larger and smaller infinities?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
What is it?
phil labonte
Well, think of it like this, right?
There's infinity numbers.
You can always add one more, right?
But there's also infinity odd numbers.
But infinity numbers has to be more than infinity odd numbers.
ian crossland
That's like all the vortices in nature.
phil labonte
I don't know what you're talking about.
ian crossland
All the protons that are spinning around other protons.
There's just.
phil labonte
Protons don't tend to spin around other protons, do they?
ian crossland
More than Nassim Harriman, he thinks they are mathematically.
They seem to be creating around black holes.
So you have large and small.
You said, what was the word?
phil labonte
Well, infinities.
ian crossland
Large and small.
phil labonte
The idea of infinity, right?
ian crossland
Large and small vortexes.
Like the vortex of God at the center of the galaxy.
phil labonte
Yeah, I have no idea what any of this means.
ian crossland
It's like an infinity squared.
You know, it's like this function of a vortex.
I don't think it really has a beginning or an end, you know?
phil labonte
I don't understand any of this.
tim pool
Here's something to understand about infinity, Ian.
Everything is one thing.
Imagine my hand, but you can only see each individual finger coming up.
And without knowing what a hand is, you'd see four individual objects.
unidentified
But guess what?
tim pool
It's actually all part of one.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
That's why I like it.
The DMT room.
Have you smoked DMT before?
tim pool
The idea is that every particle, every fundamental component of the universe is the exact same thing, but popping out through different dimensions.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I think about it yesterday.
I was thinking about it for like an hour yesterday.
Man, oh God, that whole.
adam francisco
Have you done DMT?
ian crossland
Yeah, two times.
adam francisco
It's like a five minute trip, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, roughly 10 minutes probably.
adam francisco
Did you separate from your body?
DMT Experiences and Porn Bots 00:04:09
ian crossland
No, because I didn't take so much that I blasted off.
I took like a half dose.
adam francisco
Were you on the ground?
ian crossland
No, I was laying on a bed.
But I peered through the veil.
I could see through it and I could see the spirits and I was talking to them, but I wasn't in the realm with them.
I still knew I was on the bed.
adam francisco
So you could see past reality a little bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's a different frequency.
Like the whole system you see kind of.
tim pool
His story was pretty wild.
He said he was on his bed looking up and he saw the black silhouette figures going, reaching down at him.
unidentified
He was like, whoa.
ian crossland
Fortunately, no.
But I knew before I went in, I was like, I can choose to be afraid going into this or to be brave.
And if you choose fear, that shit happens where the demons, your own fear manifests as a.
tim pool
Perception, but if and then the demon came down and it snuggled with Ian and it and he tried to get up and it was like, No, no, it was like, Please, it's like, and it's like, and it just cuddled all night.
ian crossland
Yeah, it ended up being nice about about 5 a.m.
The demon just wanted to be loved, and although it's making a joke, that's a true thing.
The demon's the unknown, the fear, uh, it wants to be understood.
phil labonte
I think it, I think if it wants to be loved and wants to, I don't think it's exactly true.
adam francisco
I thought it'd be like watching it for years.
ian crossland
I mean, it's hype, you know, anyway.
tim pool
Uh, do you want to add anything or shout anything out?
brandon brown in unknown
Yeah, so I actually had a second part of that where, with the people being stupid generally, is there an opportunity for society at large to break through the veil of misinformation or general idiotacy?
Or is it, with AI coming out, is it going to be too hard to outpace bad or misinformation?
tim pool
I like that idioticy.
I like that word.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
O D Y S S E Y. Idioticy.
tim pool
You know, Yeah, we're cooked.
AI.
unidentified
Here we are.
Listen, listen.
ian crossland
I don't think so.
tim pool
When we're talking about AI porn bots, you guys don't understand.
Like, it's not that you're going to design a porn bot.
It's that you're going to turn it on and it's going to be some hot chick and she's going to be like, Do you like what you see?
And the guy's going to go, Nah, your tits aren't big enough.
And she'll go, How big do you want them?
Like, I don't know, massive, like fucking retarded big, like impossibly fat milkers.
And then she goes, And then you're like, Let's go.
It's going to be real time.
And she's going to be like, I can't breathe like this.
You're like, I love it.
That's what it's going to be.
ian crossland
The cyborg real girl you mean in front of you, real machine?
tim pool
No, you're going to be watching an AI thing.
adam francisco
On an Oculus.
ian crossland
Because you're going to have real cyborg women that are going to be like, amp you up, girl.
That's like, I'll help you decorate.
I'm going to make dinner for you.
And you're the fucking man.
You're going to get her tonight.
She loves you.
Remember that.
adam francisco
Once that happens, who's going to date real women at that point?
tim pool
Don't date robots.
phil labonte
Yeah, don't date robots.
tim pool
It doesn't matter.
You can't do anything about it, bro.
There's some fat guy in a fedora right now who's just thinking, I just wish someone would say, I love you.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then.
You go to a woman and you go, Hi, would you like to?
Ew, rape.
And he's going to be like, I don't know what to do.
And then he's going to be sweaty and like nervous.
Then he's going to go and he's going to have his computer and there's going to be his big tittied anime waifu with cat ears being like, Oh, it's baby sad.
And he's going to be like, I'm going to put on my fleshlight right now.
Can you start talking while I do it?
That's the future.
That's the future.
That's the movie Idiocracy should have been about.
ian crossland
I can't deny it because how porn kind of led the charge for the growth of the internet in the late 90s.
unidentified
So it's going to go.
carter banks
It really did, though.
ian crossland
Same with AI, probably.
phil labonte
Same thing with VHS tapes.
The reason everybody went to VHS cassette tapes or VHS video is because the porn industry decided to use VHS over Betamax.
That's the truth, yeah.
The porn industry was like, we're going to go with VHS.
That's what we're going to film on.
carter banks
What they'll do next.
phil labonte
And people were like, I'm buying a VHS player.
ian crossland
Because I had asked my parents in the 80s, they were like, Betamax is better technology, but VHS got adopted.
I was like, why?
And they're like, that's just how business works sometimes.
adam francisco
That's the most basic instinct of man.
It's porn.
Makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I mean, a guy, you're supposed to come 21 times a month, I heard.
adam francisco
Oh, it's healthier for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam francisco
It's clean your prostate.
ian crossland
Like, you have to think about sex to do that.
I don't know another way to ejaculate without getting horned.
tim pool
Okay, let's talk about something else.
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tim pool
Can we talk about the guy bashing the person with the hammer?
phil labonte
Yeah, so that's less gross.
Caller, do you have anything that you want to add to that conversation?
tim pool
Please change the subject.
brandon brown in unknown
I don't have anything else to add to that, but I do want to do a little shameless self promotion.
unidentified
Sure.
brandon brown in unknown
The wife and I have been doing a home renovation project.
Found that the house had been infested with black mold and we've just been struggling financially to strip everything down.
And so if you wouldn't mind just taking a look at my give, send, go slash moldy house, I would greatly appreciate it.
phil labonte
So that's all I got.
Best of luck, man.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, brother.
unidentified
Thanks, dude.
All right.
tim pool
Next up on the list, we have Jaylor.
Welcome to the show.
phil labonte
What's up, Jaylor?
carter banks
Howdy.
unidentified
How y'all doing?
phil labonte
I'm doing well.
ian crossland
I got a little bit of headache, I think, because I was in the sauna earlier.
unidentified
Thanks for asking.
You're dehydrated.
If you want to really teach Ian about the four chords thing, just playing the four chord song.
phil labonte
The four chord song is great.
tim pool
Yeah, but did you know that guy's like a woman now?
phil labonte
Is he really?
tim pool
The guy who sang it is like, and he looks the exact same.
So he looks like a fat guy with a dress, you know, and he does video games trimming instead of music.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't know.
You don't know the four chords on it?
unidentified
What is it?
Axel Watson.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
Is it the guy that says all these hit songs have the same four chords?
tim pool
And he's like, Yeah, it's three guys.
They play in the main guy in the middle, the fat guy in the middle.
phil labonte
I don't know that they're actually the same four chords because I think that what they're doing is what?
tim pool
It uses the same four chord progression.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
So they're not the same key.
tim pool
All he's done is taken a chord progression and the keys are different, but it's functionally the same thing.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he changes the time signature.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
D, C, G.
Those are my first chords.
tim pool
No, it's AF, C, G, is the chords that he uses.
ian crossland
AF, C. AF, C, G. F, C is the E. Most top 40s are AF, C, G. F to C, dude.
I love just playing around with F to C.
I don't even bother barring it.
I just play.
unidentified
Barring.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't bar the top fret with the F.
I just play it, you know?
tim pool
I'll give you an example.
I'll give you two examples.
I'll give you two examples, boys.
phil labonte
It's one, five, six, and four.
unidentified
Here you go.
phil labonte
Positions.
ian crossland
That is, yeah, it's Karma Police by Radiohead.
tim pool
No, it's not.
phil labonte
No, it's the first, the fifth, the sixth minor, minor, and fourth chords of a major scale.
unidentified
Pretty good.
Yep.
But, anyways, my question so I just sent it the video to Carter over X if you guys wanted to end up pulling it up at some point.
What does the panel think of the housing situation in California after?
The fires one year later.
I linked a YouTube short to Tim Cass News and Brett and a whole bunch of other people because somebody has to say something.
They're ticketing people for having RVs outside their home, which are completely hooked up legally.
The particular family in the video won their first appeal for their first ticket, but they have three more in three days in a row.
Is California just trying to seize property, force people into selling?
tim pool
Yes, they're communists.
unidentified
This particular family saved their home for the most part.
tim pool
Yep, they're commies.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
At face value, the way that they miss, well, I'm thinking of Malibu, really.
I was going to, but.
Yeah, the way they mishandled poor Palisades.
Yeah, they want to repurpose the homes and public housing.
phil labonte
We were talking about this right as it happened.
We were like, they're not going to build because Gavin Newsom was saying, oh, we're going to expedite permits and blah, We were like, this is not going to happen.
In a year, there will not be any new construction.
They could have built all of those homes in a year.
All of those homes could be replaced.
But it's not happening because of California's licensing laws and permitting laws.
adam francisco
These are homeowners that own the land and the houses, right?
That's so messed up.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And they can't do anything with it.
And whether or not they will actually be bought up at a discount by industrialists or whatever, I don't know because they're still empty.
adam francisco
It was just in a holding pattern.
unidentified
Yes.
Paused.
And the insurance companies aren't paying out.
It's like 80% of them haven't paid out.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm not sure why that is, but yeah, we were talking about it right away.
We knew California was going to do this, we knew they weren't going to give the permits out.
It's.
Literally the city's fault.
Karen Bass and the fire chief, you know, botched the whole, you know, the whole fire rescue stuff.
It was, it's no surprise.
It's a horrible situation.
I feel terrible for the homeowners.
You know, Pacific Palisades is extremely desirable property.
unidentified
It is.
phil labonte
It's gorgeous.
unidentified
I feel like.
phil labonte
And yeah, it was.
ian crossland
California is too big.
And I don't want to be the guy that splits California in half, but it is ungovernable at that extent.
tim pool
Oh, I would love to be the guy that splits California in half.
ian crossland
Split it into North and South California.
tim pool
Absolutely.
ian crossland
The north is like a wild fish plant.
tim pool
Oh, we should split the north and the south and move the south into the ocean and maybe sink it.
ian crossland
The east and the west.
Now we're talking about quadrating that thing, but like the farms are all out east.
Then the west is like the metropolis.
The north is the forested area.
The south is like the desert.
They're just so.
The problem is water rights.
The north produces the water.
So, like, you don't want interstate conflict over water rights.
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