Epstein BLOWBACK, Billionaire RESIGNS IN SHAME | Timcast IRL#1450 w/ Alex Stein
Alex Stein dissects Hyatt Pritzker’s resignation from Hyde Hotels after leaked 2019 emails revealed Epstein ties, arguing the files prove child sex trafficking and coded abuse language like "jerky" (human flesh) and "pizza" (CP). He highlights uncorroborated claims—ritualistic sacrifices, sulfuric acid orders—and dismisses skepticism as ignoring patterns in victim testimonies. The debate extends to Epstein’s associates, including Ghislaine Maxwell’s alleged face changes and Noam Chomsky’s $500K "marriage trust" payment, with Stein insisting coded emails demand scrutiny. Ultimately, the episode frames Epstein’s network as a web of plausible deniability, where hyperbole risks overshadowing verifiable criminal connections. [Automatically generated summary]
He was the chairman of the Hyde Hotels, and he's the cousin of J.B. Pritzker.
Because of his Epstein ties, the emails came out and revealed uh-oh.
And now we're starting to see the blowback.
More emails are getting released, and there are a lot of questions.
Plus, there's an alleged list of names, but the Trump administration has released the Epstein name list, and a bunch of people on the right have blasted these out saying, here we go, we got the list of names.
And it's not a list of anything.
It doesn't accuse anybody of anything.
Some of these names that are mentioned are in it because it's like, I went to a party at this person's house, and it's completely unrelated to anything related to Epstein.
But we are seeing people now start to deal with the blowback.
And I will say this: the Epstein files are revealing that I would argue that for the most part, it was all true.
And when these prominent elites, when people in the FBI, for instance, people that we know, were saying, no, no, there's nothing to see here, there indeed is something to see here.
And I got to tell you, when Pam Bondi went to that hearing and was like, but the DAO is at 50,000, I was like, that's great.
We're allowed to care about two things at once.
Right now we're talking about the children who are being trafficked to an island and not the economy, which is good.
And you at the DOJ have nothing to do with that.
So can we now talk about the criminals who are not being held accountable?
When I look at this story, I see a guy, he's like 75 years old.
What does he really care?
Right?
But he's part of this massively wealthy family, which includes, he's the cousin of Illinois Governor J.P. Pritzker.
So very, very weird stuff.
And we'll talk about that.
Plus the jerky conspiracy theory, where in these emails, Epstein's talking about jerky, and people are claiming that he's eating people, eating people jerky.
So we'll talk about that.
And then probably my favorite slow News Day front page story came from Newsweek, where for seemingly no reason, or probably because there's no news, they decided to run a story that Trump was going to announce aliens are real.
I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that Obama jumped the gun and said aliens are real.
There's been this rumor now for the past couple of weeks that Trump is going to hold some kind of press conference or a State of the Union address where he says we have proof that aliens exist or something like that.
And Obama then comes out on this liberal podcast and he goes, yeah, they're real.
And maybe he just didn't want Trump to steal his thunder.
But of course, Obama is now walking this back.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, we have a bunch of other stories.
AOC is getting roasted because she said Venezuela is below the equator, which it isn't.
And I wonder if this whole thing that she was doing was an attempt to kind of like show that she had foreign policy chops because she wants to run for president.
But she has only indeed shown that she has no idea what she's talking about.
So we're going to get into all of that and more, my friends.
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From CNBC, Hyatt Chairman Pritzker leaves board over Epstein ties.
Big news from CNBC.
They said Pritzker will leave his post as the hotel chain's executive chairman, a role he's held for more than two decades.
Immediately, he said in a statement released by the Pritzker organization, the 75-year-old billionaire Hyatt Ayer said he would not seek re-election to the board at the annual stockholder meeting.
My job and responsibility is to provide good stewardship.
That is something to me.
Good stewardship includes ensuring a proper transition at Hyatt.
Pritzker said he has regret over his connection to Epstein and his accomplice, Gheelane Maxwell.
So we know about what Epstein did, like, you know, the claims.
We also know that the media covered it all up, lied about it, suppressed the story, pretended like it wasn't happening, and called us all crazy for suggesting that it was true.
Recently released files show Pritzker and Epstein exchanged friendly emails after the disgraced financier's plea deal.
Being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing.
Thanks for pointing that out, CNBC.
Why did you need to say that?
See, here's the truth.
These powerful individuals were flying around on a plane with underage girls who were supposedly masseuses, but they were actually doing other things.
And we've got numerous victims who, and it's funny because there are a lot of Trump supporters that have come out being like, this woman claimed that she never did anything untoward, but now she's claiming she did.
And I'm like, yes, is it possible that in 2015, these women didn't want to admit that they were child prostitutes?
And now that Epstein's been uncovered and exposed, they're saying, actually, those claims are all true, and I'm now going to admit it.
So I think it's fair to say, certainly.
Call into question some of the statements.
Maybe there's some women trying to cash in on being a victim or whatever.
But just read the emails.
And look at the conviction.
He took a sweetheart plea deal because Epstein was bringing on underage girls to his plane and to his island as masseuses.
And they were doing, they were hookers.
Basically, they were child prostitutes being run in.
So I love how every step of the way, the media has tried to protect these individuals.
And I'm not going to cut Trump any slack because Trump was like, oh, it's a hoax.
Now we're reading these emails and we're going like, oh my.
There's videos.
Alex, did you notice?
There are videos of children bathing that Epstein in the Epstein files.
And they said, they were like, well, you know, it's uncorroborated.
Yeah, it's really weird that Epstein had children come to his island.
And there's videos of underage kids.
They censored the videos, mind you.
But there is a lot of, let me just, I would describe it as massive piles upon piles of circumstantial evidence, which makes me wonder what hard evidence they're retracting.
There was one email that I showed on Twitter where Epstein emailed somebody.
We don't know who because they redacted it and he simply said the word pizza.
And is it, is that, is that, I'm sorry, I just have questions about why they redacted the email of a person simply because he said pizza to him.
Now, listen, I'm not going to sit here and say I know exactly the intent of that email.
I don't.
But when you redact the recipient's email, then people start saying, why?
What about that?
Now, I will stress, a lot of the Pizzagate stuff was, I believe, fake news.
People were making, I say fake news in the playful sense, like not like it was literally fake stories, but people were adding things to it that weren't true or were conjecture.
But what is true is that CP is child abuse material and it's referred to as cheese pizza.
So when you have someone like Epstein who is literally convicted of stuff like this, emailing people these terms, you kind of say, I think we know what the intention was in the redaction.
But there's plenty more emails.
I know that, you know, Alex, you've seen a bunch of it.
Well, you know, you're kind of teasing me a little bit because we are talking about jerky.
And just you look at the way that they use these emails.
They're not talking like they're ordering pizza.
Like they're speaking in clearly coded language.
So, I mean, it just looks like it's obvious that they're doing stuff to kids.
We knew this.
And then when you talk about the child porn, that's the one thing I think Pam Bonnie's told the truth about, saying that there was a ton of child porn.
And that's why it took so long for them to unredact them so we could see them.
So, yes, if you think that, you know, it's just bad that they were raping kids.
I don't know if I should say that word.
Sorry.
They were doing a lot worse with CP and trading that like a currency.
I think when it comes to the Epstein files, people are running fast and loose with the truth.
And that's why people like CNBC feel the need to say that being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing.
Because if you were, if you were even referenced in the files, it's a guilt by association.
And it feels as though there is a witch hunt.
Some would argue more deservedly so.
Obviously, everybody who is accused or involved in any child abuse should be charged and indicted and charged to the fullest extent of the law.
But I feel like the threshold for that evidence has become lower and lower.
Yeah, but the point is, she's going like, we should be talking about the economy.
It's my response to that.
This is the problem.
I'm going to criticize Thomas Massey a little bit too because I'm a big fan of the guy.
I consider he's my favorite member of Congress, but he's yelling at her saying we caught you red-handed.
And I'm just like, listen, there was ample opportunity to respond to Pam Bondi and just be like, thank you, Secretary Bondi, which is Secretary, right?
Now, anyway, we were talking about something specific because the people can be happy about the economy and upset about the Epstein trafficking stuff, too.
I mean, you could look at Les Wexner, there's the guy that gave him the residence in New York.
Like, if they don't charge him, which I know now they're saying they opened up an investigation, I don't think anybody's going to go to jail because he was basically his right-hand man, or Jeffrey was his right-hand man, if you want to use that analogy.
And I think that he would have blood on his hand.
So if he does not go down, if we don't perp walk at least Les Wexner, and this is all alleged, I don't want to get sued by him, but it looks like his connection to Epstein is indisputable.
You know, there are people who are making the craziest claims imaginable based on the lightest of conjecture.
A good example of what I'm trying to say is the easiest example that I brought several times.
One of the Epstein files comes from a phone tip to the FBI, a woman claiming she was a victim of sex trafficking, and she was 13 when she was trafficking.
She was on the island when Tony Hawk got married.
The only issue is Tony Hawk didn't get married on the island.
Like Tony Hawk is so far removed from Epstein, it's ludicrous.
So what happened is there's an action sports photographer whose name is Mark Epstein, completely unrelated to Jeffrey.
Jeffrey has a brother named Mark Epstein.
And so when Tony Hawk got married in Fiji, Mark Epstein, the action sports photographer, was taking photos of it.
This is Getty images.
And apparently this was on MTV at the time.
Someone presumably saw this, assumed Mark Epstein, who took the photos, was related to Jeffrey, and then thought they could lie and claim Tony Hawk was there and the FBI would buy it.
Something like that.
And so now there are these articles flying around saying Tony Hawk caught with, you know, underage traffic evicted.
It's completely fake.
And that I can respect when there were concerns about releasing all the files because there would be this kind of blowback on innocent people completely unrelated.
Amy Schumer is in the files.
So in the list of names that the DOJ dropped, Amy Schumer is one of them.
Amy Schumer named in the Epstein files.
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She probably would eat a kid, but I mean, yeah, but that's more of her eating, more of her eating disorders.
She's the president with Howard Luttnick, as far as he goes, Secretary of Commerce, I believe, because he denied, he said that he cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein.
But then after he alleged to have cut ties, he visited Epstein Island again, allegedly with his family.
And this is after 2008 when he was convicted of a few different, I believe he was given a sweetheart deal in Florida, but it was well known after 2008, the 2008 conviction that he was involved in these sort of crimes against children.
Did he get a text message from somebody saying these towers are going to go down?
I don't know.
But I do know that Condoleezza Rice and George Bush were both briefed that there's a guy in Afghanistan and Osama, Osama bin Laden that wanted to fly planes into buildings.
Let's jump to this story to appease our friend Alex Stein.
This is from Times Now News, Epstein Jerky, what it means and how it fueled cannibalism and ritualistic sacrifice claims.
The U.S. Department of Justice released more than 3 million documents recently in which a 2019 interview between FBI officials and an anonymous man speaks about ritualistic sacrifice aboard Epstein's yacht in 2000.
They say when the DOJ released more than 3 million records, blah, blah, blah, the trove quickly became fodder.
But the way that they talked about jerky in these emails, there's an email where it's like, oh, yeah, he's going to stop eating so much jerky and start eating regular food again.
There was an FBI interview of one of the purported victims.
They were saying things like, while on his yacht, he witnessed African Americans, Americans, and males having sex with white-blown females, all of whom were bleeding during the intercourse.
He was a victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a scimitar but left no scarring.
On the yacht, he witnessed babies being dismembered, their intestine removed, and individuals eating the feces from these intestines.
It was also raped by George Bush.
One these are all, I mean, these are just allegations from a quick.
The exotic jerky that I have is from Western Maryland when I went to a, there's like this lake, and there was a jerky store that sold a whole bunch of different kinds of jerky.
Not one of which was human children, in fact, but they did have a good variety.
What if I told you that everybody in this room has eaten human beings before?
You're going to say that's impossible, but in meat processing plants, they've went and tested the meat, and there has been issues where there's human DNA in it.
Because they cut their hand or something and got in the meat.
Well, it's just that, like, I just want to reiterate it.
Like, at this point, there's enough information here where they need to start finding these people that are making the allegations, interviewing them, and looking to see if they can press charges.
I'm just imagining how funny it would be if on Epstein's Island, there's like a gigantic jerking station and they've got a whole bunch of exotic, like legitimate beef jerkies.
And then it's just like Alex is screaming, it's children.
And the people, the people from Epstein Island are like, you have no idea the recipe.
You don't think that's oh, bro, that was for dissolving people.
What do you think that's for?
One of the FDI files talked about there were two dead women buried on this ranch because apparently what happened was, and this is, come on, look, when you go to people and you say jerky sounds like they're eating people, they'd be like, man, I don't know.
That sounds crazy.
But what do we know for a fact?
Epstein was convicted for hiring underage girls as masseuses, but having them do sexual things.
One of the tips was that there were two women that were hired for sexual favors, and when they were doing them, Epstein and whoever else was strangling them at the same time, and they died.
They panicked and then buried the women on some ranch property.
That is entirely believable based on what we do know about Epstein.
Don't get me wrong.
You can believe the stuff about the jerky and all these other crazy things, but I'm saying, like, if you go to someone and say, Epstein was convicted for hiring underage prostitutes, and in one of the files, they allege two of them died during rough sex, and then Epstein and his accomplices buried the bodies.
So when you hear about them buying, what was it, 200 gallons of sulfuric acid?
And you have to wonder why someone needs a private island in the first place.
And it's because ain't nobody coming to investigate on your private island.
And here's the other thing: the important thing to understand: when you bring a young woman to your island, she's not going to say no because of the implication.
I think as far as a lot of this, the Epstein stuff goes, it's hard to blame people for wanting to add on all these additional maybe conspiracies onto the Epstein stuff because originally so many people over-promised and under-delivered on this story.
So many people in positions of power did this.
So for example, before Kash Patel was the director of the FBI, he used to come on shows like this and bitch about the Epstein stuff and say how there are all of these lists out there.
And then Jeffrey Epstein inside the jail is able to kill himself.
And then they've removed parts of the file watching over him.
Because when you look at a picture of Geelyn Maxwell in the public and you compare it to the image of the Geelane Maxwell in prison, you're like, okay, that's a completely different nose.
It's much wider and bigger.
And it's a little bit more snubbed than Geelan Maxwell's nose that we saw in the past.
So the question is, did she get a nose job to make her nose bigger?
They say he was buried in Jerusalem's Mount of Olives in what has been described as a state funeral attended by much of the Israeli political establishment, including the president, prime minister, and six serving and former heads of intelligence.
His death triggered the collapse of his publishing empire, blah, blah, blah.
I'm just like, for everybody out there, some friend of yours that went to high school with, and then 20 years later, you find out that they like ate people.
Those emails sound very, very weird, but I just want to point this out.
Guys, guys, I'm sorry if this makes me sound conspiratorial, but when I pull up this picture of Gheelane Maxwell from her mug shot and then the picture of the woman in that jail, that is a different person.
They admitted that to trick the press for seemingly no reason, they stuffed a body bag full of boxes and cardboard and stuffed in pillows to make it look like a body was being removed.
They did a Ditch magazine, not even trying to shout them out.
They looked into the FedEx account through the leaked emails, and there is a FedEx account linked to Jeffrey Epstein that has been getting packages, and you can chat GB.
That's why every night after the show, Elon doesn't understand this, but I asked him if he wants to wear my shirt and wear the beanie just to make him feel better.
Well, all I'm saying is if you look into the conspiracy about Titanic, it's very weird.
It does look like it's, I mean, the boat that still lasted, I think it's called the Olympia or the Olympic, it was an identical boat except for like one hole.
I mean, it was from the naked eye, you couldn't even count that it had less than one hole, like one less room or whatever.
Trump UFO announcement rumors persist online what we know.
And I'm going to stress this.
Instead of starting off the article with, there is no evidence to suggest this is true.
This is an online rumor with no basis.
They started by saying rumors that President Donald Trump is planning a major speech about unidentified flying objects has been growing online since claims published in early February suggested a major revelation may be imminent.
Mark Christopher Lee, a British writer, filmmaker, and ufologist, said in a Monday email in parts Newsweek, quote, a Washington insider I have known personally and conducted business with has repeatedly affirmed that President Trump has prepared a historic speech acknowledging extraterrestrial visitation and the existence of recovered non-human materials and craft.
Newsweek has not verified the claims.
So here's the trick.
The way they format their news articles makes you get all excited and hot and bothered.
And then you got to scroll way down to where it says like, well, you know, it's probably not true.
The unnamed source is saying this and this.
There's no evidence to this.
There's no evidence of a planned speech.
All at the bottom of the article.
But hold on.
This story has persisted for some time.
Take a look at this from TMZ.
Trump knows about extraterrestrial life forms, says the age of disclosure director, November 2025.
Obama, being jealous, says aliens are real.
You guys saw this.
Washington Post reporting, aliens are real, Obama says, as Washington shrugs.
The former president appeared to confirm decades-old conspiracy theories, but then he walked back his podcast comments.
Here's the funniest thing.
A former president of the United States went on a big podcast and said aliens are real, and no one cared.
No one cared.
This is the test, the trial balloon, to where now they actually could announce aliens are real.
And people will be like, yeah, we get it, whatever.
Yeah, I mean, well, this has been something that's been brewing for a couple of years now, right?
Like they, the, ever since they stopped calling them UFOs and started calling them UAPs, there were people that were saying, well, you know, there are UAPs and they, and the government's saying, but they are our UAPs and we.
Like, I would love to know the information that they're, you know, they say, hey, you know, we're going to do, we're going to announce that there are aliens.
I would love to hear how they got here because as of right now, all the science that we know says that you can't travel faster than the speed of light.
If I said that the Earth was actually a bowl, it was actually a bowl, not flat, no ice wall.
It's actually lightly curved convex and that holds all the water in.
And it's very slight.
It's very slight.
And sometimes there's tsunamis because if the bowl tilts, the water rushes over.
Like you might get some people to believe something like that, but the reason why that's not a prominent conspiracy theory is that flat earth actually has some prehistory.
That is, the Bible describes the firmament and the upper oceans and things like this.
And so you start with the basic truth of you experience the Earth as if it were flat as far as you know.
Then you can start to guide people's certain direction and trick them and then wrap them up in crazier and crazier lies.
So the Anunnaki live on a planet, Nibiru, and it has an elliptical orbit with the sun of 2,500 years, which means for a short period, it travels around our sun and it gets warm.
But after it leaves, it starts getting colder.
And for thousands, 2,000 years, it's going to be very, very cold.
So the intelligent alien race, the Anunnaki, used gold particles in their atmosphere to create a greenhouse effect to reflect heat back in.
So what they did was, when they came around into the solar system and saw Earth, they started creating a hybrid slave race so that they would mine gold for them and value it so that the Anunnaki could use the gold.
Unfortunately, the first slave race they created was too smart and understood the nature of the universe and so rejected the rule of the slaves and said no.
So the Anunnaki said, we need to make a stupider race, smart enough to do any task, but not smart enough to understand the nature of reality.
And then they created humans.
And then the humans were like, gold is good and gold and silver we love.
And that's one of the conspiracy theories about what the aliens are.
And the funny thing is, in the past like 15 or 20 years, the people who believe this particular theory, and I'm sure there's like a million different versions of the same theory, argued that we were entering the next era when Nibiru would return and they would come back and start controlling the politics of the Earth so that they could start taking all of our gold.
And then the best part about this is it's far-fetched lunacy nonsense, but you can jigsaw, puzzle, piece it together to make it make sense.
Like all the gold in Fort Knox is presumed to be missing around the time.
I had a friend who went to, I think it was like the Emirates or whatever, and there was a jewelry store where the guy walked outside of his store and he lined gold necklaces in front of the store.
And she was like, aren't you scared that someone might steal them?
And he goes, no, they'll get their hands chopped off.
Stein, to pivot a little bit, though, is there anything that's a little just bit too far out for you where you're just like, actually, nah, that's beyond.
I don't know if it's just attention because I think that a lot of people, it's just like with the Epstein files and the similar fact that we want more transparency.
And so until the government gives more transparency, people are going to come up with their own conclusions.
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Well, I mean, at the same time, like the evidence from Kenny.
I just, I'm struggling to figure out like how you decide when something's like definitely true and definitely not because I feel like the Erica Kurt would be right up your alley.
For example, like they would say, oh, the person in the crowd who yelled that I did it, even though they weren't the actual.
The one thing I would like to know, though, it's that every time there is a shooter, the FBI is like, oh, they were on a radar.
We didn't do anything.
I would just imagine that Lance Twiggs and Tyler were on their radar.
I mean, whether they want to admit that, and I don't know that.
I'm just purely speculating.
I just feel like if they were in Discords talking about this, and I do think that he talked about it, dude, I feel like this is naturally up your alley, though.
What do you think it says about people willing to use those texts and things like that to attack the things that he built, which is Turning Point and his wife is his widow.
That's why I'm bringing up like the reason we've been sitting on, like, I've been sitting on this, like, waiting.
Like, I don't know if we can actually report this because other than saying a tragedy happened, we don't know much.
There are tweets going up that are uncorroborated of a man.
I'm not going to show because we don't know that this is the actual person.
But Turtle Boy says sources are reporting the person who set up a hockey game in Pawtucket was a transgender dad.
I'm not going to say the potential name.
It's going to be a popsicle headache for some people, but he appears to be a diehard Trump supporter who's been warning other conservatives on Twitter not to badmouth trans people.
Just yesterday, he warned Kevin Sorbo and Alex Jones that transgender people are going to go berserk if people keep bashing men like him.
I've not seen any evidence to confirm that this is the individual.
I don't know why people are assuming that it is, but a lot of people online are saying it is, but that doesn't mean it's true.
That being said, with the uh, with well, but here's the issue with the Canada shooting, it turned out that the internet was completely correct.
These initial reports that it was a transgender mass shooter, when they said woman in a dress, it was uh, in fact, it was a male, yeah.
And so, I suppose what we can opine on our stories like this is what is it, Coulter's Law, Coulter's Law, yeah, Coulter's Law is if a news report does not mention that if they don't give the identity or background of the perpetrator, you know, it's some kind of minority group.
I know we kind of thought saw the um, no, but I'll elaborate in a second.
But there's photos I'm not going to show of an individual who looks like a middle-aged man who's trans at a hockey rank, which appears to be the location in question.
Uh, I don't know for sure, though.
So, until we get better corroboration, I'm not going to show anything.
But no, my point is the reason why I think we're seeing so many of these mass shooters being trans is because people who are suffering some kind of like psychotic derangement, you go online and you're told by everybody that the pain you feel is caused by being transgender.
This is the solution to everything, right?
We heard over and over again that when a teenager is depressed, someone says maybe you're trans, and then they get fastlined through this process.
So, the issue is not that the mass shooters are trans, but that people predisposed to violent deranged tendencies are being told they're trans and they're going for it.
The uh, the report was that like a majority, overwhelming majority of transgender young women, young females have autism.
We talked about so, so what's happening is you've got these young people who are undergoing some kind of typical DSM-5 mental disorder, and they're told the solution is gender is gender medical, you know, therapy or whatever.
Yeah, I mean, we talked about this a little bit last week.
The instances of bulimia and anorexia have plummeted, and the instances of trans men has risen accordingly.
So, it's a lot of it is likely just body dysmorphia, at least with women.
When it manifests as in men, it manifests for different reasons.
But with women, it's very likely that it's all body dysmorphia when they're young.
They're going through a lot of changes in puberty and stuff, and that's a really difficult time.
And then you, you know, you couple that with bringing them to a psychologist that has been indoctrinated with this kind of BS, and so they start pushing it on kids.
We were talking about one kid that was 15 when she transitioned socially, she started dressing like a boy, and then 11 months later, they actually gave her surgery.
And, you know, it's insane, but the fact that a doctor would do that to a 16-year-old, you know, that's that's insane.
But this is all like part of the basically the medicine thing.
Well, I would say everybody has like a little bit of body misphora dysmorphia because like if you really think about it, you know, Phil, it's like there's, you know, bigorexia where you want to be really big, you know, there's anorexia.
So it's like these, we know these people are mentally ill, and I think we have to blame the parents for, you know, enabling me.
This is NBC 10 saying that let's, okay, let me see if I can find the Dan Janig reporting it was a father, a man dressed in women's clothing that he targeted his family members at the hockey game.
So it's looking now like this is the photos may or may not be confirmed or no, but it does look like at the bare minimum, a man in women's clothing killed his family according to NBC 10.
Yeah, to pick up what you were saying, Alex, the particular case that I'm talking about, the mother actually testified because this child won a $2 million lawsuit against the doctor and the psychologist.
But the mother felt like she was being coerced.
She brought her kid to the psychologist and the psychologist was like, okay, this is what it is.
And the mother was like, hold on.
And the psychologist was like, no, no, this is actually what it is.
You have to affirm this, et cetera, et cetera.
So as much as there are definitely parents that push their kids into it, there's also a total industrialization.
So, I mean, it's a disgusting situation made even more horrible because the medical professionals that people are supposed to trust are actually pushing this on children.
They say NBC 10's Dan Jenig reported citing a law enforcement source.
A suspect was a father who may have been dressed in women's clothing, and then he intentionally targeted family members who were at the hockey game.
Gonclave said police were not involved in the suspect's death.
It appears from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but we are going to investigate fully.
The police were not involved in that.
So according to rumors circulating on X from witnesses, this individual came in, shot his wife and then kids, and when was tackled by a bystander, pulled out a gun and shot himself.
And there are photos of an individual who is clearly transgender, and they're saying this is the person in question.
Other rumors are saying that the individual in question, social media account, was a Trump-supporting, far-right, you know, quote-unquote far-right trans person, but who was largely critical of the right for being anti-trans and threatened to go berserk.
You know what the issue is for a lot of these people is that with body dysmorphic disorder, there are people who, no matter how fit they get, look in the mirror and they feel like they're not fit.
Something is wrong.
There are dudes who are so jacked, they can't itch their back.
You ever see the video where they put a post-it note on this weightlift on this bodybuilder's back and he can't get it off because his muscles are too big.
He's like, oh man.
But there are people like that.
I'm not saying that guy, but there are people who look in the mirror and they see themselves scrawny.
So they just keep going, keep eating.
Same thing with anorexia.
So the problem is, for these people who are suffering from gender dysphoria, no matter how many times they look in the mirror, they're not going to see the right thing.
It's not an issue of them being the wrong gender.
It's an issue of them having some kind of self-identification issue that anyone can experience in a variety of ways.
There are people who stage, there was one famous story where a guy knocked the jack out from a murderous car so it would crush his arm because he felt that he shouldn't have an arm because he had body dysmorphic disorder.
And so he went to the doctor and said, you need to remove my arm.
It's not part of my body.
And they were like, you're wrong.
So then he crushed it with his vehicle so that it would be amputated and he could finally get off.
Well, because a lot of these guys, when you want your muscles to be visible, you have to dehydrate yourself.
Because the truth is, everybody's got a six-pack.
It's just a question of how much fat is on top of it.
Correct.
And so for a lot of these guys, you see it like in the movies, they have their six-pack showing, you know, like some superhero movie, and they're like, look at me.
Yeah, they don't drink water for the day or whatever.
I think it was Chris Hemsworth said he was eating like several pounds of chicken and fish per day to maintain the mass because you need to keep eating the protein.
Otherwise, there was a funny incident where Jason was Jason Momo.
No, well, he gets a little bigger at the weigh-ins because he probably, you know, rehydrates, but like he's just famous for getting really fat in the offseason and losing it all right before.
It was an extremely concerning scene earlier at UFC 324 weigh-ins when Cameron Smotherman completely collapsed after stepping off the scale from his weigh-in.
In this video, we'll talk about what exactly happened here.
And more importantly, the response afterwards.
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I'm Dr. Brian.
I'm going to skip ahead to my channels to teach you more about passes out.
Eventually, they regain consciousness, right?
He was able to sit back up.
He regained consciousness here.
But then, unfortunately, what do we see?
And he goes back down.
He still feels lightheaded.
There hasn't been enough time for that water that he's drinking to get distributed to restore that plasma volume, to restore optimal blood supply to his brain, and he goes back down again.
We then see this whole sequence as they get him off of the stage.
They are literally just carrying him, and it looks like he's still unconscious.
I haven't seen this kind of thing happen, but bodybuilders, before they go on stage, they're completely dehydrated because it makes your skin look super, super thin.
And a lot of bodybuilders use diuretics and stuff to just suck the water out of them.
So they're on stage.
They're smiling and they're posing for the camera and stuff, but they're likely fighting cramps at the time.
I think any athlete in the Olympics is going to get tested.
So we were having this conversation.
Actually, this would be great for the skateboard podcast because I was telling the other pro skateboarders, like skateboarding is probably the only pro sport, maybe not necessarily where you can do stimulants and never get caught.
You're not taking drugs in your run because you do a slam.
And trust me, dude, skateboarders, when you take a slam, when you fall, and we shouldn't say, like, any, any athlete, if you're in the middle of your, your sport and you fall down and you slam, you're not going like, oh, no, I'm so hurt.
I need drugs.
I got to be honest, especially if you're on cocaine.
I can't speak for some, I can't speak for everybody, but let me just tell you this.
Skateboarding is largely dead, but I assure you, all the biggest guys in the world, when you watch these videos, they're like, Can you believe this dude just did the greatest trick?
Pro baseball players, you know, they used to take beanies back in the day, which is all there's a pro skateboarder who takes a beer and just bashes his face over and over again and then does something ridiculous.
And I'm just like, he's probably got brain damage.
That's the crazy thing about sports like skateboarding.
And it's not just that there's like BMX.
And you know what the funny thing is?
I don't think I don't think this largely of like skiing and snowboarding, like winter sports, but a lot of the action sports, these people are just whacked out of their minds on drugs.
Their whole life is: if I do the craziest thing imaginable, I'm going to make more money.
Literally, there's a quote.
It was an interview in a magazine like 20 years ago I read where the guy said, The thing about skateboarding is that you're tired, you're not really feeling it.
And then your boss says, I want you to nose grind the 16-stair handrail and you'll make an extra $20,000 this year.
Now, don't worry about the terminology.
They're basically saying, jump down this flight of stairs when you feel sick and not like you're going to make it.
Otherwise, you're not going to make as much money this year.
And so you go for it.
And I don't want to get too personal, but a friend of mine who was a pro landed a crazy trick that was very dangerous.
And the boss said it didn't look good enough.
Go back and do it again.
When they went back and did it again, they broke their arm and quits and quit.
And when their ratings drop from 2.63 in QNAL commercials down to $225,000 for beer commercials, they're not going to generate enough ad sales to support big students.
Bro, I could, I kid you not, I could launch a brand new podcast on chicken farming with Elad, who has no experience, and I, who literally have no idea for the most part about chickens, and we'd get more views than MS Now gets to it.
The mortality shelf is now, which means life expectancy being 79 doesn't mean when you turn 79, you die.
It means some people live to 85, 90, 100.
Some people die at 70.
The expectation right now, as boomers have just hit life expectancy, is that there's a curve from 79 and down where we're going to see a certain amount of death.
So if we cut off the portion that's expected, the higher end of the bell curve that will live beyond 80 years old, as some do, we're looking at, they estimate like 30 million deaths in the next four or five years from average life expectancy deaths.
This is the reality.
People die around this age, which means in the next year or so, total viewership, to be fair, when Tucker Carlson was on the air, he was doing $3 to $5 million per night with like 600,000, 700,000 key demo.
Now, that's Tucker Carlson.
I get it.
When he left, the numbers did go down.
But even now, looking at the numbers, they are saying like, well, they're up this month, 12 in the demo.
That's good.
And that is good.
But their total viewership is collapsing while their key demo is going up a little bit.
Again, you are not going to sustain CNN, Fox News, or MS Now.
And the rumors are that the story broke that with like, what was like Warner Brothers is talking to Paramount or something like this.
And I don't know.
I don't even know where CNN is anywhere because it's been sold so many times.
But CNN is a worthless company.
It is worthless.
They don't have enough views to actually bring in money.
Now, to be fair, technically they do because they're getting, yo, this is apocalypse.
A meeting was held a couple of weeks ago in Florida with big executive figures specifically to discuss how they enter this space.
So we've heard quite a bit after the election that they needed their new, they needed their own Joe Rogan on the left.
And there were concerns that older people are voters and they have this big block, but they're now recognizing that they've got only a couple years left where they can still sell ads to old people who have money.
So there was a meeting that took place with a bunch of executives who intentionally met just to talk to each other about how they solve this problem.
So here's what you can expect.
Big shows like, let's just go with Joe Rogan.
He's the king of the castle, right?
Don't be surprised if, and I'm not saying there's anything I know about this.
I'm not saying Joe would actually do this.
I'm just saying, I would not be surprised if a year from now we find out that like Comcast bought the Joe Rogan experience.
Again, I would not be surprised if these big companies start to, well, actually, I will say this.
Like Jimmy Kimmel, we all make fun of his ratings being bad.
He gets a lot of play on YouTube, but these are just clips.
They need long form.
And so my speculation right now is to consider, not that I know what's going to happen, Jimmy Kimmel might get a banger of an opening 10-minute, but that's not going to compete with the longer form stuff that you see from the likes of Rogan and the podcast space, where they've done these massive $100 million deals with like Travis Kelsey and like Call Her Daddy, which means they're going to need a show that is conversational long form style for their premium platforms.
And it's not going to be Jimmy Kimmel.
I wouldn't, considering that the TV model of the 9 p.m. live is basically out and primetime is dying, no one's really watching these live kind of shows.
You know, the question is, does Timcast IRL need to be live?
Most of the people who watch watch afterwards as VOD.
So we just are live because it's convenient for people.
They want to hang out.
But I think what we'll end up seeing is, or I should say this, I would not be surprised if take a look at any one of these big lefty podcasts, if they buy them and then put them on the air.
And it's going to be conversational, long form, hour long with probably not commercial breaks, probably it's going to be, you're going to be watching quote unquote TV, but TV's dead.
They're just going to have, Netflix is already doing this.
What am I even talking about?
Have you guys gone to Netflix recently?
They have a podcast section now, and they bought a bunch of podcasts.
And actually, Phil, you can probably attest to this better than I could.
The label, I can't remember which label they were signed to, signed 15 bands that were identical to Green Day.
It was the pop punk era.
It was the late 80s, early 90s.
And they said, look at these bands that are popping up and getting a lot of attention playing pop punk.
Sign them all.
Then, whichever one makes it to the top of the mountain, we blast them off and we do the bigger deal with them and we promote them.
And so the general idea was instead of looking for big established artists and doing massive contracts, sign a bunch of tiny artists at dirt deals and then try and find which one is the diamond in the rough that you can turn into a big prize.
And Green Day had a smashing hit with Dookie and what was the, what was the other next, what was after Dookie?
And so the labels were like, okay, all these other little ones were worthless.
We didn't care.
The strategy is likely going to be the same.
The big networks don't care about shows like ours because we're established and make a lot of money.
Why bother?
Right now is the opportunity to buy 10 small podcasts and then give a little light sprinkling of marketing, see which one bubbles up a little bit, and then dump your marketing budget into them.
360 means they get a piece of the merch, they get a piece of the public, they get publishing, they get ownership of all the music, basically anything that artist does for however long the term 20 years.
But she does get 20 years of consistent pay no matter, but not when she's smashing it and doing stadiums, making millions of dollars, and she's only getting paid hundreds of dollars.
Even Wade Robinson and James Safechuck, the two people that said that they were molested in the documentary.
One, Wade Robinson was his lead character witness in not one case, but two court cases where Michael Jackson was totally exonerated, never charged, investigated for 19 years.
And that's what they said.
That's the reason why Conrad Murray killed him because Sony wanted to get all of his originals because he had like the largest personal collection.
And even the one settlement he paid to Jordy Chandler, they were going to fight it, but it was just easier to pay him because there was no criminal charge with it.
So it was just easier to pay the guy and make him go away.
And on top of that, Jordy Chandler's stepdad, who's the one that kind of motivated Jordy to say all this, ended up dying under mysterious circumstances, like did a suicide and quit his job as a dentist.
Like totally spiraled out.
But if you just look at Wade Robinson, that's the guy that was in the, you know, the key guy in the documentary, Leaving Neverland.
Literally, he dated Michael Jackson's cousin after his death, was at his funeral, like loved the guy, defended him in multiple court cases, and then all of a sudden he's dead.
He's like, oh, yeah, he molested me trying to get there were some weird circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson, though, despite well, Macaulay Colkin and you know Corey Feldman both slept at his house with him and said nothing weird happened.
I do believe that he was a little bizarre.
They arrested development, but I wouldn't know what it's like to be like a superstar celebrity at five.
But when you think those people aren't, when you start tacking on hyperbolic, when you start tacking on all this extra bullshit, it really mutters on that water.
She's a famous spirit cooker, and part of her art is doing spirit cooking where they get blood and piss and semen and they write words on the wall and they summon devils.
Like, I don't think any reasonable person reading those jerky emails can't, any rational person could come to the conclusion that he's talking about eating kids.
Dude, I think there's a lot of emails, and there's a chance he was talking about jerky.
That's not to say that he wasn't a pedophile and Glene Maxwell didn't, you know, procure young women for him to sexually assault and that he wasn't convicted in 2008 and got a plea deal in Florida.
That doesn't mean he wasn't involved with a lot of famous people after the fact who are willing to work with him after he was found out to be a pedophile.
But all this extra stuff really dilutes the real story.
I mean, and she was at the AG of Florida when Epstein got the sweetheart deal.
So it seems like, you know, she's guilty of something.
I don't know what.
I mean, if you accuse her of a crime, she'll get really mad.
But she doesn't care about getting more transparency when all this comes out because you're going to find out more information that she was connected to Epstein all the way back in the Florida days.
So she's been abysmal at her job and she's been really interested.
Wealthy Silicon Valley dudes, they hire young men, like 18, 19-year-olds, to be bodybuilders and to eat specific diets so they have really good, healthy bodies.
And then, yeah, you can't do drugs and you got to eat a specific diet, like vegetables and protein, no sugars, and then they do a blood transfusion with you.
Yeah, I mean, I guess you would say their telomeres are a little shortened, but theoretically, like, if you're super healthy, I don't think it would, I don't think it would lessen your lifespan that much to give somebody blood.
And, you know, you were joking about Ellen DeGeneres.
Does she eat people?
There's actually a famous video where they're talking about how she's with the who's the gosh, who's the famous actress that was from, what's the movie with a bus where the bus gets taken?
Human placenta can be prepared to look and taste like jerky.
It's placentophagy.
Alternative preparation rather than jerky.
It's more commonly dehydrated, ground into powder, and put into capsules or blended into smoothies.
And the same people who are talking about eating jerky are talking about making smoothies as well and flying them from New York to the island, which makes no sense.
Now, I'm not saying that's literally what's happening, but this is a preponderance of evidence, meaning it's worth investigating.
Is that the case?
Because why would you fly a smoothie from New York to the island?
We're not talking about Justin Hammer from Iron Man where he's sitting in the hangar being like, like my dessert.
I like my dessert first.
I flew it in.
It's Italian.
That's not normal.
People don't really do that.
Jeffrey Rebson didn't have a lady make a smoothie with strawberries and bananas, put it in a cooler, started by a dry ice, and fly to the island so he can enjoy it.
He could literally just buy that stuff and put it in his freezer there.
This was something else.
I'm not saying it's placentas or babies, but it's worth looking into.
They're using codes in their emails because what same person thinks people are literally having this much beef and jerky.
All right, guys, we're going to grab some more chats.
We're going to grab some more.
We can go to the uncensored show.
You guys can yell at each other there.
All right, let's see what we got going up here.
We got somebody.
What's this say?
Based Hafrican says, glad the hearings are finally being discussed here.
It's been big news for a week, and I was worried y'all would pass on it.
Bondi's pattering was unacceptable.
Only explanation is that the admin is lying for some reason, be it malicious or for foreign affairs.
Did you guys see that one dude who's like, Trump's doing 4D chess, where he's purposefully antagonizing the Epstein people to make everybody talk about it?
And I'm like, yeah, I think that's more accidental.
I don't think Trump is intentionally trying to goad people into talking about Epstein files.
I don't think Steve Bannon is great that he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, but in those emails that I've read, it doesn't seem like they're talking about jerky.
It doesn't seem like they're talking about child porn.
So to me, it seems like he was trying to rehabilitate his career.
Well, I'm trying to explain to you that this is all political theatrics.
Again, these people who are talking about these files, for the most part, are unreliable narrators and trying to tart and feather their political opponents.
Half of the people talking about these files are talking about how Trump is allegedly a pedophile.
Thomas Massey is coming out on these files, alleging people who aren't involved in anything of being pedophiles, and people are reading through these files.
So the issue I take specifically with you, and before we're about to go to the uncensored portion, is I am largely neutral on this in that I have been the whole time.
I've argued that Trump's concerns over the recently released of the Epstein files is that it's going to embarrass people who didn't commit crimes but did things that were untoward.
Or there's going to be people who are Saudi where in their country they're allowed to have sex with 15-year-old girls and that's going to get them screwed over seriously in the United States, which has actually happened now.
We're seeing, I think it was a Qatari or a Saudi.
I'm not sure.
I had to resign from the position or something because they can't work in the U.S. with these allegations.
I have never been on the jerky must-mean people, and I've argued against the pizza means boy and pasta means girls because I know for a fact that was fabricated.
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However, maybe you're arguing with the wrong thing.
And now we're getting more evidence, videos and pictures of children, little girls in bathtubs.
They're censored, but you can still tell it's a little girl in the bathtub that Epstein had for some reason.
Clearly, they have child abuse materials.
We now know that when they were like, no, no, there's no evidence that Epstein was trafficking to anyone else and Geelan was trafficking to Epstein.
We now know, but it's in these conversations, that is likely, a high degree of probability, not true.
People talking about going to parties.
Noam Chomsky saying, I want $500,000 for my marriage trust.
And they were like, did you mean 50 or 500?
And he goes, I mean 500.
What did Noam Chomsky do for Epstein on that island that warranted him getting a payment of $500,000?
It's all very weird stuff.
They are not doing normal things normal people do.
And Trump was trying to cover it up for whatever reason, calling it a hoax.
And my point for you, and we're going to the uncensored portion, again, I know we got to go, is that the whole time we've argued this, you said Massey is wrong and it's a distraction and it's bad faith.
And I'm like, why was Noam Chomsky saying I'm fantasizing about going on your island and you should give me 500 grand?
Why was Reid Hoffman saying I'm going to these parties?
Why were they saying torture videos?
Why are they talking about getting young girls, the naughty little ones?
And the people that you just named, Reid Hoffman, Noam Chomsky, my point is that when people are talking about these files, they're not talking about the whole of them.
They're just using it to tar and feather their political opponents.
Literally everybody who's talking about it.
Thomas Massey, Thomas Massey and Rokana.
Both of these people are not talking about it in the Epstein Files.
When I point out that there are people that were talking in ways that sound like they're getting young girls and asking for large sums of money in weird ways, you immediately defer to.
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And I got big news.
The coffee shop is about to open, and we are already preparing for the grand opening.
We're probably talking about doing an exclusive Discord community VIP-only party closed to the public, VIP Elite, before the store even opens.
But Ian is where, you know, for real, though, my wife rolls her eyes and I'm just like, well, the thing is, it's not funny to get a picture of a car with a cardboard cut out of me.
It's not.
It's like, yeah, okay, you know, that's Timpool, I guess.
But Ian is because he's moonlord.
So like having a picture with a cardboard cut out of Ian fits his persona and his character and it's fun to have in your photo.
So the fact that he was outside of his car with a drink, they were like, the only way for this car to be turned off or moved is if you go in right now and sit in that chair, which is a DUI.
And then I guess what happened?
I could be, but that's why I ended up not getting charged with it.
They ended up saying, like, okay, Bam, we get it.
Don't do this stuff.
You shouldn't.
You're not supposed to be drinking or whatever.
It's actually a much wilder story, but it gets more into private details, which I don't want to, you know, with unrelated third parties and I'm not going to be smirched.
But the story is really crazy.
Maybe, maybe, maybe one day Bam won't mind if we tell it.
But my understanding, I think he said he wasn't drinking, and I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I know he wasn't.
Conspiracy theorists have been batting a thousand.
So just because you find it far-fetched and don't believe it doesn't mean that these elites aren't actually doing it.
And Alex, you're absolutely correct.
Spirit cooking loosh, demonic worship, code words, the whole thing, everything is right on par for the money.
I've been talking it for about like 15 years now.
But on a more practical note, getting back to like centered reality politics, I have been exposing corruption right here in Colorado, the trafficking of minors, Colorado legislative session, killing minor trafficking bills, as well as decriminalizing adult activities, women of the night here in Colorado, along with election fraud, ICE hotline abuses, and NGO money laundering.
How can I, as a content creator, as a media guy, trying to be on the ground, how do I make my videos and short form reports, cut through the noise and grab the masses' attention?
And it's pretty tough trying to inject humor and make it eye-catching with such dark or doom and gloom topics such as A-B testing and iteration, and the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
You can see all the people that are defending Epstein is they don't like that Ghelaine Maxwell's connection with Robert Maxwell, her dad, who is basically an Israeli spy.
Well, to be fair, very quickly, Elod does have a point: sensationalism does get clicks, but I'm not going for sensationalism.
I'm going for truth.
And the fact is, is that the truth is that Robert Maxwell did have Israeli asset connections and did operate the publication books for our schools in America.
So there are factual evidence that Alex does represent, but you don't have to sensationalize it.
You just have to be honest with the delivery.
But yeah, no, thank you for everyone.
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Taxing Wealth Strategies00:08:16
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I do live streams three times a week, but I just dropped a video on Jenna Griswold, the DOJ, her Tracer accounts, and the child trafficking ring and the very strange occurrences that's happening in Colorado.
So feel free to follow.
What's happening in Colorado?
So right now, we have some very interesting reports that human trafficking is being kind of covered up in the legislative session.
The legislative body is basically shutting down any sort of, there was a House representative who tried to make the felony charges of human trap or child trafficking, specifically child trafficking, more extreme.
And the Democrats shut it down.
And then the very next day, they introduced the decriminalization of prostitution.
And that also works in tangent with, I have two different reports I'm working with regarding CPS and foster care children and the networking of basically invisible children being pushed through the foster care government programs and these courts and how they're being basically moved through Colorado.
I-25 and I-70 is at the heart of Denver, and it's a very, very central geographical location for East, West, North, South.
So it's a pretty uncovered story, and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
The thing is, if you make a million dollars in the year and then on December 31st, you spend all of that money on equipment, you don't pay taxes.
Equipment expenses go up to about a million dollars.
So technically, your system already is in place.
That's the idea that if you make a million dollars profit in one month and then say, I'm going to take that and I'm going to hire 100 new workers, you don't pay taxes on it.
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Yeah, I'm aware of all those things and trying to sum it up in one small question, but I understand that there's a lot of things that wealthy people do to get around.
One thing I learned recently is that when it comes to the way that we tax the wealth in this country, is you get taxed for taking your money out of the stock market and property, which is capital gains tax.
You create a Delaware trust, you put all your money in it, and then if the trust buys a car, it pays no taxes.
If the trust buys a car for $100,000 and sells it for $200,000 and makes a $100,000 profit, the trust doesn't owe any taxes because it's not an entity.
It's not a tax-paying entity.
So what wealthy people do is they put everything in a trust and then buy anything they can through the trust and never pay taxes on anything.
So your trust buys stock, the stock goes up in value, you sell the stock, the trust is now worth 10 times as much, but you pay no taxes.
Then the trust buys a house, you live in the house, pays no taxes.
Then you sell the house for $2 million on top.
The trust is now substantially larger.
You pay no taxes.
That's the easy way to do it.
When people talk about tax loopholes and all this stuff, they don't understand that you don't actually need any loophole or anything like that.
But that's because the way his revenue is like that, that's not necessarily the same thing.
That's like he takes as many write-offs as he can so that and he's also pointed out that there's more liabilities and assets.
That's another that's another trick is to be over-leveraged.
The idea is if you have a million dollars in credit and two million in debt, so long as you can pay the minimum and keep having revenue come in, you're rich.
So the way Trump strategized was: if I can accrue debt, but keep paying off that debt by using the wealth they afford me, what you basically do is this.
Whereas the average person says, I'm going to make 800 bucks this week and then spend it on food, then 800 bucks a week and then spend it on food.
Trump says, that's dumb.
I'm going to make $20 million this week and I'm going to owe $30, but I'm going to pay the minimum of the debt.
Well, it goes up, but I'm going to make a little bit more.
So the debt, Trump basically talks about running his business the way the U.S. government does.
Generate more debt, but if you have $20 million in profit every year and you're only paying down the minimum on the credit that's accruing, it doesn't matter because everyone's happy.
And then you get to live off of a fraction of that $20 million per year.
Let's say you're taking 10% for a salary.
You're making $2 million cash per year.
Then the business goes bankrupt.
You wipe off all the debt and you've got $2 million in your pocket.
Congratulations.
It's easy to be rich.
People just don't do it because most people have scruples.
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Yeah, that's one thing I did learn recently, but I guess I just didn't think it was wrong at all, but everyone that was presenting it to me made it sound like it was bad.
Anyway, anyway, sir, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, I clearly seem to be misunderstanding something here.
But I do want to say that we need to stop demonizing the wealthy.
I know that there are some bad people in this country.
There are some bad wealthy people, but I actually honestly believe that the majority of wealthy people are actually good-hearted or just care about actually paying their employees and running a good business.
And I think that's one of the biggest frustrations in Charlie Kirk's death because, you know, he probably would have ran for president or vice president and probably could have kept this movement together.
And so I think there's going to be a big split.
Ted Cruz is saying that he's going to spend like a billion dollars to run for president.
And I don't know how it repairs itself because when Trump's gone, even if he's like a kingmaker and he says, you know, he annoys JD Vance, I do think JD Vance will be the strongest candidate, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll win.
And, you know, this sounds crazy too.
Gavin Newsom, he's an evil guy.
He slept with his, you know, chief staffer's wife.
The guy is, you know, he's doing pretty good on social media.
He's kind of a, you know, handsome guy.
He has a big family.
So I think that he might reach moderates and they're going to say, oh, we did such a poor job with California.
Well, the fact that he could win California proves to me that he can win every other.
Yeah.
So that just proves that he can win those liberal states.
And then Camela, I mean, Camela's terrible, but if you put AOC in that slot, I mean, I think that she's a political powerhouse, whether we want to admit it or not.