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Feb. 18, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:21:19
Armed Man CHARGES Capitol With SHOTGUN, CIVIL WAR FEVER | Timcast IRL #1451 w/ Rep Riley Moore

Rep. Riley Moore joins Tim Pool to dissect rising threats against Republicans, from Carter Camacho’s Capitol shotgun charge to Antifa harassment targeting his family, contrasting West Virginia’s self-defense laws with restrictive states like Maryland. He warns of Democratic overreach—Virginia’s redistricting eliminating four GOP seats, AOC’s foreign policy blunders at Munich (e.g., stumbling on Taiwan), and communist tactics like raiding NYC’s retirement funds while hiking property taxes. Moore speculates on purging the Supreme Court to align with conservative views, mocking leftist economic ignorance and questioning whether justices prioritize precedent or political backlash. The episode ends by framing institutional decay as a ticking time bomb, with AI advancements and hyperpolarized politics accelerating potential chaos—unless self-defense and ideological clarity prevail. [Automatically generated summary]

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What Caused the Chaos? 00:02:48
tim pool
A man in a tactical vest, armed with a loaded shotgun and additional rounds, got out of vehicle and stormed towards the Capitol before he was apprehended, charged and arrested we don't know his motive just yet, and things like this do happen, so maybe it's nothing, but I got to be honest, considering just the other day, there was a transgender unhinged individual who went up and shot up his family at this hockey ring.
There are t-shirts being sold celebrating political violence, the ICE attacks, threats, violence escalation, all of that at the ground level.
And then at the political level, you have the redistricting where Virginia recently got approval from their Supreme Court to wipe out four Republican seats.
So the conversation's basically coming to an end.
I look at a story like this in D.C. and I say, ah, that freaks me out.
Because the issue is, it's always a grain of sand that eventually makes the heap, right?
That's the saying that I often use.
At what point is this not just some one-off crazy person, but the beginnings of a pattern or some kind of trend?
And maybe, just maybe, we all beg, we hope, and we pray that this was just some lone nut crazy guy who believes crazy things who tried attacking the Capitol by himself for some dumb reason.
The scarier thing is that, of course, he's by himself, but what if he's motivated by mainstream ideology of any faction?
I don't know.
Presumably, we're going to see this on the left because of the violence coming from the left.
But if it is this fervor generated by the online resentment or just general political disarray, that's where things are getting scary.
And so I look at this story, and there's a bunch of others where you can see that there's no conversation happening between the left and the right, only escalation.
And the question that we've asked on this show is: where is the off-ramp?
So let's analyze this story and see if there's actually anything going on there.
And then we've got some fun stories for you.
Fun is in nightmarish and terrifying.
Like Zorhan Mamdani announced that he's raiding the retirement funds, their rainy day funds for the city, cranking up property taxes.
And I kid you not, holy crap, literally crap all over the streets of New York City.
These videos are insane.
And the question is, what happened as soon as he got in?
What did he drop that just caused this chaos in New York?
But surprise, surprise, all of these people thought Zorhan Mamdani was going to come for the rich.
Instead, he's going after literally everybody, looting their retirements and their rainy day fund because that's what communists do.
And then, of course, AOC at the Munich Security Conference sounding like an idiot.
Of course, the question is: why was she there?
The presumption is she wants to run for president.
Well, fortunately for us, she sounded so stupid.
I think a lot of people are like, this lady should not be president.
But when has policy or facts ever gotten in the way of someone who has charisma, right?
I mean, we can talk about Donald Trump.
IRS Looming Changes 00:02:36
tim pool
He can, he can, what do they call it?
He can, well, he can maneuver his way through any conversation.
Unfortunate for people like Gary Johnson, who actually just tries to be honest and says, What is Aleppo?
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Security Issues at the Capitol 00:11:24
tim pool
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Don't forget to subscribe and joining us today to talk about this and literally everything is Rep Riley Moore.
riley moore
Thanks for having me back on, Riley Moore, Congressman, 2nd Congressional District of the Great State of West Virginia.
I'm happy to be back.
You can follow me at Rep Riley Moore on all social media platforms.
Thanks for having me back.
tim pool
Right on.
tate brown
What is going on, Patriots?
This is Tate Brown here holding it down.
It's great to have you in.
I came in.
I walk into the studio and you're out shredding the NAR outside.
riley moore
Yeah, a little bit there.
Yeah, is that their skate?
tate brown
Putting the insurance policy to the test.
I love seeing it.
I knew that skateboard is in good hands.
unidentified
Phil, what's up?
phil labonte
Hey, what's up, everybody?
My name is Philabante.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
unidentified
Carter?
phil labonte
Is this dragging?
unidentified
What's up?
No.
carter banks
Hello, thirds, man.
They're killing me.
But yeah, definitely become a member of the Discord.
I heard there's going to be a cutout of Ian at that party, as Tim was saying.
tim pool
Well, I mean, hopefully.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
We still have to figure it out.
carter banks
Right.
tim pool
Figure out dates.
It's probably going to be in the next couple of weeks, actually.
It might be like the last week of March.
I'm not entirely sure.
carter banks
Word.
tate brown
Dude, you're playing guitar hero over there with a.
carter banks
It's pretty crazy.
Also very fun.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, let's get to the story.
We got this from CNN man in tactical vest with loaded shotgun arrested after charging U.S. Capitol.
Police say an 18-year-old in a tactical vest.
We get it.
Police identified the man as Carter Camacho of Smyrna, Georgia, and said he acted alone.
They are working to determine a motive.
Capitol Police Chief Michael Sullivan said Camacho, armed with a loaded shotgun, carrying additional rounds, drove a white Mercedes SUV near the Capitol before exiting and running toward the building.
He was intercepted by Capitol Police, who drew their firearms and told him to drop his gun and get on the ground.
Camacho complied and laid down before being arrested and taken into custody.
Who knows what could have happened if we didn't have officers?
The individual had a tactical vest on, the chief said, as well as tactical gloves.
Police have charged Camacho with carrying a rifle without a license, having an unregistered fireman and ammunition, as well as unlawful activities.
He was not previously known to Capitol Police.
Now, I will say we hear stories about this from time to time of some whack-aloon doing something crazy at the Capitol.
And I would argue one of two things.
If this guy was serious, why would he dress in the most obvious way imaginable with a large weapon and run for it?
If he got out of the vehicle and just walked, most people probably would not have noticed that much.
Someone might have stopped and said, excuse me, what are you doing?
But the clothes that he's wearing might just look military to the average person.
And if he's calmly walking, they might not think that much about it.
I would also then counter my own argument with stupid people are stupid and they do stupid things because they're stupid.
phil labonte
Yeah, doing that is very, very stupid.
tate brown
I mean, this goes back.
I made this point on the noon live, and I've said it previously, is the very scary thing that's happening in the United States is we're getting a higher and higher proportion of the population that literally has nothing to lose.
And this is another example of that.
This is just a guy that for a myriad of reasons literally has nothing to lose.
So he's a crazy person, yes.
But a crazy person with nothing to lose is a serious problem.
We saw it last night in Rhode Island.
Now we're seeing it today, literally in our nation's capital.
It's a really terrifying time that we're in because, okay, yes, this guy, whatever, he was bum rushing with tactical gear on.
What happens when those people actually get serious?
What happens when these people that have nothing to lose get serious?
That's a very scary timeline that we would enter.
tim pool
I want to just add completely unrelated, YouTube's down.
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
So, watch on Rumble.
tim pool
Yeah.
You can watch on YouTube if you have the direct URL.
So, I'll probably just tweet it out.
But a lot of people are like, I can't find it because you're going to.
carter banks
He said it was on their end.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
This is YouTube's front page is totally down.
So, anyway, Riley, is the world ending?
riley moore
It feels like it sometimes.
But about this moron who showed up to the Capitol with a tactical shotgun, what I can say, this is the most I can say: there are increased security questions, threats, and problems at the U.S. Capitol over last year.
This is not a one-off.
tim pool
Really?
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
And so, are these are like, I don't know if classified is the right word, but they don't want people going on and talking about the security issues that they're experiencing.
riley moore
There are some security issues at the Capitol.
And all I can say, this is not a one-off.
tate brown
Are we talking like individuals?
Are we talking like potentially groups?
riley moore
Hard to say right now if they were part of a group, but certainly individuals.
tim pool
Interesting.
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, can you say anything else beyond that?
I mean, avoiding specifics of what happened.
Can we talk about, you know, are these, let me just say this.
Let's step outside of whatever that statement was.
And let me ask you: do you see any increased threats from any kind of factional political ideological groups or anything like that?
riley moore
I'll speak for myself in Tifa, Antifa specifically.
I had a obviously, you like to presume this stuff isn't public.
They get rid of all of it on the internet, but you can find anything on the internet.
I had an Antifa person show up to my house.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
riley moore
Yeah, a few months ago and just started going ballistic on my wife and my kids, and I wasn't there and they were out in the yard.
phil labonte
Oh, God.
riley moore
And cops showed up and all that.
And look, I'm one person, but this is happening increasingly to members of Congress, but specifically Republican members of Congress.
Of course, there's security issues for people like Elon Omar and AOC, and given their stature and all that, and things that they talk about.
But there are increasing threats to all Republican members of Congress.
If you go look at the last appropriations bill, what's called the Ledge Branch Bill, you will see in there that there is a pot of money that was put in to increase security for members of Congress.
I'm actually the vice chair of that subcommittee, so I can't talk about the other stuff too much.
But that money is there for a reason.
It is there for a reason where members of Congress can now contract armed security.
tim pool
Wow.
riley moore
Yeah.
I mean, it's an incredible thing.
tim pool
You're allowed to carry guns up there, right?
riley moore
You're allowed to carry a gun, but the problem is you have to go get a DC concealed carry, which they have to allow you to get.
But of course, they raise the price on it where it's almost like a thousand bucks.
tim pool
Wow.
riley moore
To get the concealed carry for anybody, any member of Congress out of state, you can carry.
phil labonte
I wouldn't have a problem with Congress appropriating money so you guys can get it.
tim pool
But I just want to say, if there's one thing Congress is really good at, it's passing laws to benefit themselves.
phil labonte
Yeah, right.
tim pool
You get this?
riley moore
Yeah.
I mean, I want just universal carry in the Capitol.
I think we should be able to capital carry and all that stuff.
You can get the concealed weapons permit to carry within the District of Columbia, Washington, D.C., as a member of Congress, but you got to go through this very lengthy process of getting the concealed permit, which basically nobody gets in Washington.
tim pool
Why would a member of Congress have to do that?
Like, are we really concerned that a member of Congress is going to just go rogue and start killing people?
riley moore
Yeah, no, no.
And that's why I myself and I'm on the bill.
I'm on a bill for capital carry.
tim pool
You know what?
riley moore
I can't allow members to carry in the cabinet.
tim pool
I got to stop right there.
I actually just thought about it and think Congress probably has a disproportionate amount of crooks.
Maybe they should.
phil labonte
Yeah, like some Congress members will just get out of session and then they'll go out somewhere in DC and start like jacking people in their wallet.
riley moore
I mean, a little extra income.
phil labonte
A little bit, you know.
tim pool
You know, and it's funny because there was a move.
I can't remember how long ago it was.
Congress was trying to raise their salaries.
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
AOC got a lot of heat for it.
And I was actually kind of middle of the road on it.
I said, guys, you got to understand they have like you guys have to maintain two residences.
riley moore
And probably not you because I'm like the exception, except for some of the Democrats around the beltway.
Right.
But most everybody else.
Residences.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If you're within a few hours' drive, you might just opt for driving a longer commute when you have to.
riley moore
Yeah, or sleep in your office or get a hotel or, you know, in the times that you can't go back home.
tim pool
But if you're, if you're somebody who's, say, like, you know, Wyoming.
riley moore
Oh, yeah, you don't have a choice.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And so what is what is a congressional salary?
Like 174?
riley moore
174.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so you need to have a DC apartment and your home residence off that salary.
They expect you to be working full-time.
riley moore
Yeah.
And it is actually funny history on this thing.
It is actually the law that there was a COLA passed.
I think it was 2006.
And then Pelosi started putting a waiver in on the COLA, which is now compounded over what's a COLA?
Cost of living adjustment.
And so that's what all federal workers get.
So this COLA was passed.
I wasn't there then, obviously.
It passed.
And everyone's issued a waiver on it over the last 20 years.
So now it's compounded.
The funny thing is, there's actually some members of Congress who have sued over this.
And there's a lawsuit around the pay raise where it's like, look, this is law.
The COLA is here.
The Speaker or Congress can't just waive a law.
You have to institute the law.
So now you're in a place where if this lawsuit is successful, everyone's getting paid and back paid and all this other stuff.
They could have just done it.
tim pool
I know it's rough.
I've heard stories of members of Congress sleeping in their offices, like on the floor and stuff.
You're not supposed to.
But have you considered just insider trading?
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
I mean, that's another option.
Not for me.
I don't own any stocks.
But yeah, I and Paulina Luna, she's got a bill on this, which we are going to take up in the House.
We are going to take up in the House.
We're going to take up the Stock Trading Act that's coming up for sure.
We have gone through that piece of legislation.
We're going to vote on it.
It's going to be a question of what the Senate does on that bill.
I know a lot of people listening are probably really upset that Pelosi's retiring because now you're going to be able to pick your stocks based on what she's picking.
tim pool
But to be fair, Inverse Kramer beats me.
Beating Pelosi.
phil labonte
Inverse Kramer be just on inverse Kramer.
tim pool
For those that don't know, Jim Kramer, the famous stock TV guy, if you only were to have bought the opposite of what he said to buy, you would have better returns than Nancy Pelosi, who is accused of insider trading to enrich herself.
unidentified
Who's beating up?
riley moore
That's Warren Buffett, by the way.
tim pool
Possessing Warren Buffett.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Inverse Kramer is beating Warren Buffett.
I got to tell you.
I think the secret is that Jim Kramer actually is a savant.
Inverse Kramer's Genius 00:15:39
tim pool
He is a genius.
And I'm just going to imagine that every time he says not to buy something, he winks.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Don't buy this one.
riley moore
It reminds me of Seinfeld, you know, Costanza.
It's like, I'm just going to start doing the opposite of all my instincts here.
tate brown
He was like, 08, and he's like, mortgage-backed securities, the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Unbelievable.
riley moore
So there's actually an app out there.
It's like the policy stock trader app or whatever, and you can just like whatever her put options are, you can mirror those.
tate brown
Yeah, I haven't been plugging it, but I'm printing off of it.
tim pool
I'll say, let's jump to this and keep the conversation going on what we saw at the Capitol.
We've got this from New York Fashion Design Network.
That's right.
It's the anti-fascist okay flag shirt.
It's modeled off of the Gazen flag, essentially.
It's a guy saying, okay.
And as you can see, it is what would one, it is an individual one would describe as a chungus cocking his fist back.
And it's based off of punching a young man at a school in Illinois in the face for saying, I support ICE.
And you know what I love about this story, right?
We've got it here from Daily Dot.
Pro-ICE troll gets punched at school.
The kid who did it is now a meme legend.
Indeed.
To the left, if you violently assault peaceful individuals with different opinions, you're a legend.
And the guy said, you're going to get in trouble for that.
He says, okay, and then punches him.
But you know what I really love about this story?
These two young men in Lake Zurich, Illinois.
Hey, that's out of Chicago.
These two young men exemplify the culture.
We're so perfectly the zealous, psychotic, and morbidly obese leftist punching the frail, low-T right-winger.
Sorry, Wright.
I'm not cutting you any slack.
With all due respect to this young man who was the victim of this, conservatives at the macro level have consistently just been like, well, slow down, Democrats.
And the Democrats have been like, I'm going to go shoot up a Tesla station.
And so we've gotten all this terror.
We've gotten these mass shooters.
We've gotten ICE shootings.
And even after leftists went to ICE facilities and CPP facilities and shot cops and shot at people, killing innocent bystanders, they're still like, for what reason would ICE be scared when we show up screaming in their faces with guns?
And so you get a story like this.
And this is the micro.
Some morbidly obese lefty punches a guy who's peacefully protesting.
And the guy who gets punched says, you can't do that.
You'll get in trouble.
Congratulations, Republicans.
Keep telling the left they'll get in trouble.
No one's holding them accountable.
phil labonte
It's a reflection of the way that conservatives and Republicans in D.C. behave.
They don't want to exercise power when they have it, right?
Like, so I don't know what the guy that got punched looked like.
I haven't seen this video.
But if you're in a position where someone is going to hit you, like you don't have to wait to be hit to defend yourself.
Republicans on Capitol Hill, they should be getting rid of the filibuster in the Senate.
They should be doing everything.
They should be doing all the gerrymandering they can.
And they don't do any of it because they're terrified of exercising power.
And the argument you constantly hear is, well, what about when the Democrats put the Democrats?
And this is an argument we make all the time on the show.
The Democrats have already done it.
tim pool
Guys, real quick, just don't forget what you're going to say, put a pin.
I have to say this.
People often don't understand the definition of irony.
And it's difficult to explain it to them if they don't know.
It's not super difficult.
There's an example I like to give, and it's a fire truck on fire, right?
The statement is, of course, the fire truck is intended to put the fire out, but itself is not on fire.
That is one form, a principal form of irony.
I bring this up because many of you are aware that as we're doing the show, YouTube is down.
It's broken.
So we're checking Down Detector to determine whether or not YouTube is experiencing problems.
But in fact, Down Detector is now down as well.
And so I believe it may have just recovered, but there were some reporting that Down Detector is down, which is another perfect example of irony.
Anyway, you were going to say something.
riley moore
Yeah, look, the Democrats, when they say it, they mean it.
Like, they do not play games.
They play for keeps, and clearly we're not.
And I know we're going to get into the redistricting thing here in a little bit.
Go look at Indiana.
Look at Indiana.
These guys had the ability to redistrict.
That's a state that Trump won overwhelmingly all three times.
And they're like, nope, we're not going to do it.
Meanwhile, over in Virginia, they're like, yeah, we're going 10-1.
We're not playing games.
unidentified
Yep.
riley moore
We are not playing games.
tate brown
So I wanted to ask you, because back earlier, you're talking about with Antifa, and obviously they're ramping up their threats and they're acting them out, which is the most terrifying part.
But following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, obviously getting Antifa labeled as an FTO was like massive.
That was a huge deal.
And honestly, a lot of people miss that.
That is a big deal.
Have you seen anything like on the congressional side?
Any sort of seeing that in action, I guess, so to speak?
I mean, it's because it's such a massive deal, but I feel like we don't hear about it very often.
riley moore
Yeah, I've not really seen it in action too much.
And just to be clear, any Antifa members, if you are listening, if you set foot on my property, I am going to shoot you.
unidentified
But that should be a standing order for West Virginia.
tim pool
I want to stress: West Virginia is not the same as many of these states.
Texas probably is the strongest of laws.
Texas allows you to shoot someone for touching, for threatening your property.
riley moore
Yes.
tim pool
Like literally, someone could grab your stereo and in Texas, you can shoot them.
That's the law.
West Virginia is very, very, very good on these laws in terms of protecting your land.
West Virginia, and correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding, because we went through this with security, you're allowed to defend yourself if someone trespasses on open land.
Meaning, if you've got like five-acre property, you're taking the garbage out and someone is coming onto your property, threatening you, you don't have to wait.
You don't have to flee.
You have to run.
And it makes sense in places like New Jersey, and New Jersey is, we shouldn't even mention it's so insane.
But Maryland is a good example because you even have Western Maryland just north of the eastern panhandle of West Virginia.
You have to flee into your home.
Then once you're in your home, if they try to breach the you know the entrance to your home, you're allowed to use lethal force.
West Virginia's like, nah.
riley moore
Now, we have Castle Doctrine here.
tim pool
Castle Doctrine.
Oh, but Maryland claims to as well.
riley moore
No, they do not.
And so, and just to be clear, if you're on my property threatening manner, you're getting shot.
tim pool
But not just like a random guy, like he's selling cookies for antifo bake sales.
riley moore
Yeah, you can you can knock on my door if you're the Girl Scouts.
Don't worry about it.
But yeah, I haven't really seen too much of it in action.
But yeah, look, I mean, it is all of this stuff is ramping up.
The Democrats don't play games.
They don't.
And I mean, look, look at we had a Supreme Court rule last term with President Biden on student loans.
And they're just like, yeah, we're going to ignore that.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
Yeah, we're not listening to that.
We're not doing that.
tim pool
Bro, it's just hilarious.
Check this out.
Evan loves Wharf, SG.
phil labonte
It is insane.
tim pool
Yeah, he's a lefty and he's celebrating the violence with 17.1 million views.
So here's my pitch.
And we need some, maybe this one's for the Discord community, guys.
This one's for you, the Discord community.
I want to make a coffee table book that is just every page will be for threats or celebrations of violence from leftists.
And then, yes, I am not even kidding.
Because like I see this, and these lefties are like, yay, violence against conservatives who are being peaceful.
And then when you go to these liberals and say the left is more violent, they go, no, we're not.
And it's like, here's the coffee table book.
Shut up.
There's no arguing anymore.
Now, when you're at Thanksgiving, you buy it for Christmas for your liberal aunt uncle and you say, look, it's a book of all the times the left threatened to murder people and then did, or punched people and celebrated it.
It's 3,000 pages long.
tate brown
Rakes the table.
tim pool
So we talked about it internally here.
Like, what do we do to aggregate all these threats?
And we were like, it could be tough.
We could theoretically go to like a, like, an AI and say, start pulling tweets.
We could find historic ones.
But if we want to get all the good stuff from blue sky, like the funny thing is, even Will Stansel, who's another liberal guy, has this viral post where he's like, I need to get off blue sky because you people have gone insane.
When the leftists who are insane call the other leftists even more insane, we got a problem.
But genuinely, if you're a member of the Discord community, maybe we will put together a project where we start compiling as many of these posts celebrating, encouraging, or engaging in violence.
And then we make that coffee table book.
And then, you know, people can buy it for a decent price, put it under coffee table, and then they can show their liberal friends who don't believe them.
phil labonte
It's a great idea.
tate brown
Clean out every forest in America to get paper.
One book.
Just for the proof of concept, we would have to like one book.
Amazon would be gone.
phil labonte
The point you bring up about Will Stansel is actually, I mean, it's crazy because this is an argument that Peterson was making 12, 13 years ago.
You know, I forget who it was that kind of stabbed him in the back, but he had a public Twitter exchange with him.
And he was like, look, they're going to do it to you.
They always do it to you.
They always eat their own.
And Will Stansel has been, you know, a very, very far left kind of dude for a long time.
And now, because I'm not even sure that he's did anything actually significantly bad, they just in Minneapolis decided that he wasn't pure enough and they started going after him.
And then once blood is in the water, then it's over.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
Yeah.
Then it's over.
I mean, you remember in the last administration, the greatest threats to America were like practicing Catholics and white nationalists that are roaming the streets.
tate brown
Declared war on chuds.
phil labonte
I was like, hey, But I mean, to your point, though, that was something that the administration itself said.
The greatest threat to America is white male, young white males, straight white males, which is totally ridiculous.
tate brown
Blood red backdrop, and he's like MAGA extremists or the number one threat to America.
That was a declaration of war, by the way.
riley moore
The MAGA extremists.
The most dangerous people are out there are actually the white liberal women, white wine resistor moms that are out there just because the white wine makes you more bubbly, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And you're like, you know what I was saying before the show is that the right has testosterone, but not too much.
But the left has a ton of estrogen.
And, you know, it's funny because people often say, like, oh, testosterone makes you want to fight.
Yeah, but estrogen makes you crazy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And so the left is like, and they're like punching and screaming.
And the right has like a moderate amount of testosterone.
They're like, well, I don't want to get into a fight with you.
The right, the right needs just like to crank up the tea by like 2x.
Just get to the point where your heart gives out at 60.
But then the guys are going to be like, shut up.
phil labonte
Just a little bit of trend ballone.
riley moore
Get everybody on TRT.
phil labonte
I mean, TRT is not quite what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking something with a little more octane.
Tremboloni sandwich.
Trembolone.
Trembalone sandwich.
Yeah.
Get some D-balls flying around there.
tate brown
If you can hear me, please.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like, come on, FDA.
Like, you know.
unidentified
Started putting Trembalone in the water.
phil labonte
It's way better than fluoride.
It's way better than fluoride.
But I mean, you know, the way that the left behaves, like at the very least, you can now clearly see that the left is a problem in the U.S.
And it's completely undeniable now.
You know, the violent attacks, you don't see a lot of right-wingers doing making, you know, doing violent attacks to other people.
Like they're just not engaging it.
And to the point we were making earlier today, like a lot of the reason why right-wingers don't fight back is because they have something to lose.
We talked about this.
The left, you know, they don't have anything to lose.
tim pool
Let me pull this up.
We have this post from Graham Linehan, who is highlighting a post from this far lefty named Will Stancil, who has realized the left is insane.
So let me just give you the quick gist.
A leftist has realized that Blue Sky is full of crazier leftists than him, and he doesn't want to play this game anymore.
Graham says, so funny, a bunch of people who knew they'd soon be answering tough questions on child experimentation, trans violence, et cetera, all left X for another site, which they promptly turned into such a woke nightmare that even Will Stancil can't take it.
He said on Blue Sky, man, every day I wonder if I shouldn't just delete my account on here, maybe.
Opening Blue Sky makes me want to actually walk in front of a truck.
I don't think people on here understand how crazy they've gotten.
It's this endless feedback loop of self-radicalization built around some of the most toxic personalities I've ever encountered.
It would be nice to talk about politics without being in a blizzard of seething hatred and abuse all the time.
That's what I've been saying.
And then he says they're largely blocked, but it doesn't matter because we share a social space and many of them have tens of thousands of followers and their absolute derangement is making the social space intolerable.
I love that this leftist who does exactly what he's describing to the rest of us is now experiencing exactly what he does to him.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
It's just beautiful.
It's an ironic kind of day, isn't it?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Just lots of irony milling about.
riley moore
I wish we could, and someday it'll all kind of be out there, but the amount of threats that Republican congressmen get, death threats, death threats on a daily basis is staggering the number.
I mean, it is unbelievable.
And of course, you got to look at all of these because you don't know if somebody's saying something on the internet and then it becomes a reality, right?
And many times that's, they'll post something and then something happens, right?
And we've had not just me, many people, many, many members, Republicans, people showing up at their house, this, that, threatening their families, showing up to schools, all of this stuff.
I mean, there is no line.
There is no line for the Democrats.
They are going to find you wherever you are, and they're going to threaten you and perhaps even inflict violence on you because you do not agree with them.
tate brown
Well, they were green lit at every step of the way.
Like, I mean, you saw like 2016 at the campuses when the Ben Shapiro, Milo would turn up and they would literally be flooded, firebombed, et cetera, total impunity.
I mean, even saw during COVID, like everyone always forgets this.
Tucker Carlson's house got like sieged by like a ton of leftist protests.
tim pool
And they cracked the door.
phil labonte
Scottish guy.
No one ever talks about it.
There were a bunch of people that were going outside of the people in Scottish.
tim pool
They're trying to bust the door down.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And it's good that you mentioned the, you know, the Ben Shapiro and the Miley Napoulos stuff.
Like there, there were so many arguments online because that was when punch a Nazi kind of came back into the common phrase.
And the arguments that were being made, it was like, look, and this is an argument I made to people that were in the music industry.
I'm like, look, you can't say that.
Like, you can't punch a Nazi.
Like, that's only going to lead to more violence.
It's going to lead to more actual Nazis.
It's going to lead to more violence.
It's going to escalate everything.
And now, like, you know, this year there was Charlie Kirk.
There was two attempts.
Last year, there was Charlie Kirk.
There were two attempts on Donald Trump's life.
Prior to that, like, this is the fruition of the predictions made in 2016, 2010.
tim pool
And someone shot at this property two months ago.
phil labonte
They're going to Riley's house.
They're making threats on Congress.
Like, this doesn't get better by saying, no, we should punch a Nazi and a Chud guy, you know, making sure it's about it.
They're still glorifying it.
tate brown
He's not a Chud.
unidentified
Okay.
tate brown
As a proud Chud, disavow.
phil labonte
Whatever you want to call him.
tate brown
The point being, like, academic term, yeah.
phil labonte
He wasn't a wholesome Chungus.
tate brown
Intellectual term we like to use.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But the point remains, like, you know, with the intellectual of Luigi Miangioni, like, this is just going to make more violence.
Tariffs and Trade Dilemmas 00:08:41
phil labonte
And this is why Tim and I say, it's like, where's the off-ramp?
How do you diffuse this stuff?
And I don't see a way to do it.
riley moore
Well, look, one of their guys back in the day said by any means necessary.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, they say it was an organization.
riley moore
Yeah.
tate brown
Also, the punch and that's the crazy because then they would post pictures of like the guys storming Normandy and they were like, this is what an anti-fascist looked like.
And then if you regurgitate the average political beliefs of a World War II infantryman, and they call you a Nazi.
tim pool
Well, that was the Freedom Tunes, one of Seamus' biggest cartoons, where the woke bring World War II soldiers to the future to help them fight the Nazis.
And then the World War II soldiers are like, wait a minute, you're doing what?
unidentified
When they realize that the left is actually trying to do it, the bear of New York City's name is what?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, you heard the call to prayer in New York, right?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
People are getting freaked out.
I want to throw this in the mix real quick and give a shout out to the left for becoming QAnon.
Ellen Barkin, she's a prominent lefty.
She's from like, she's like a TV show producer or something like that.
She said, the number of people in this administration connected to Jeffrey Epson is stupefying.
It is correct to say we are a country run by a cabal of real-life pedophiles and sex traffickers whose crimes are more horrendous than we can imagine.
How much more can we take?
Lady, like 10 years ago, all these Trump supporters were screaming exactly what you were saying.
And I'd be willing to bet you can go through her timeline and find a bunch of tweets where she's claiming this exact thing is not true.
So my point here is not to bring up the Epstein stuff in this context.
It's to point out that the left has become the right.
They're claiming the election was stolen.
Have you guys seen these viral conspiracy subreddits and forums that exist?
I brought them up quite a bit.
I'll try and pull one up again.
But they're basically saying that Elon admitted to stealing the election.
He rigged the servers.
phil labonte
You starlink satellites.
unidentified
That's right.
phil labonte
You starlink satellites.
tate brown
They're using Cato Institute lines to attack tariffs.
Now that Trump is pro-tariff, now they're like, free trade is like a vital horror thing.
What's going on?
phil labonte
Who are you, people?
I was critical of tariffs.
I have a background.
I was in being a libertarian kind of dude, right?
Like, and I'm not a libertarian anymore.
And one of the reasons is a lot of the things that you kind of assumed were true as a libertarian, they seem to not be, right?
Like, I mean, I understand if you're a bear long enough, bad things are going to happen.
But like, if you, if, if you look at the, the, the tariffs, like, they, it has not panned out the way all the libertarians and the Cato Institute and all these people said.
And I'm, I, I'll be the first person to admit I was wrong.
I was, I was like, I've said, you know, on the show, I was like, I don't think tariffs are probably a good idea.
You know, I'm not an economist, but like, obviously, because I was wrong about it, you know, but then again, there were so many people that are libertarians that are like swearing up and down.
You know, the tariffs are going to do this, the tariffs are going to do that.
Well, if you say the tariffs are going to do, if you say bad thing is going to happen long enough, the bad thing will happen.
And then you can be like, oh, look, see, I was right.
A bad thing happened.
tate brown
Yeah, they're literally like recycling like Newt Gingrich talking points on like tariffs.
That's crazy.
riley moore
You know, to be fair, how many people, publicly facing or otherwise, would just say what Phil just said, hey, I was wrong.
Actually, this worked.
Basically, nobody.
Which is too much.
phil labonte
I haven't looked at the chat's talking about how stupid I am.
riley moore
But no, I mean, to your credit, I mean, that's now me, obviously, being a West Virginian, we are very pro-tariff.
Like, this is something that we have watched globalization destroy us over the last several decades from NAFTA and so on and so forth.
I mean, it has happened where steel mills just shutting down, our job shipped overseas.
So for me, I was, you know, two feet in.
First, one of the first bills I introduced was a reciprocal tariff bill.
That's something that I feel really strongly about.
But at the end of the day, yes, balanced trade is a good thing.
It is a good thing to have balanced trade.
And we have the ability to balance it and to reinvigorate manufacturing in the United States.
It actually evens the playing field for our manufacturers because that cheap, cheap product from China now has to compete at the same price point as our manufacturers.
And the consumer, which they have said, oh, this is going to get passed down to the consumer.
It's a tax on them.
They're willing to eat it to be able to participate in the greatest consumer market on the face of the planet.
tate brown
There was a like a leftist substack where they were arguing that tariffs uniquely punish POCs and that's why we should be opposed to that.
tim pool
Well, that's true, I guess.
But there was this video that I did a comment on for the Tim Pool show this morning, which is a guy claiming he's explaining why MAGA is a cult.
And NID basically says that they're not driven by facts or policy.
They're driven by revenge.
And it's clearly wrong because anybody who tracks the polling data knows that Trump only won through a coalition, which included libertarians and moderates who two to one lean right, or at least did a year ago.
And now things are kind of changing.
You can see this in the comedic podcast space.
They're kind of getting salty.
But I digress.
The point that I bring up, the reason why I bring this up is that there's reasons why I supported Donald Trump and I voted for him.
And tariffs are one of the biggest issues.
And all these libs come out as academic experts on the issue of tariffs now, having never cared about this in the past.
But I can tell you exactly why it mattered to me and skateboarding.
So here's the way a skateboard's made.
They get some lumber from either the Pacific Northwest or Canada.
It's a North American rock maple, either Canadian or American.
Send it to China, where a Chinese laborer will make these boards for pennies in the dollar, and then send it back to the U.S. That's actually a waste of energy.
But because a Chinese peasant is willing to work for a cheaper rate than an American, we don't make skateboards here anymore.
And over the last 15 years, the skateboard industry has collapsed because there's no more skate industry.
We don't make skateboards.
If you don't make skateboards, there's no skateboarding jobs.
So how are you going to sponsor a professional skateboarder if there's no company making skateboards that needs to advertise that they make skateboards because they're all made in China?
So right now in Southeast Asia, skateboarding is bigger than ever.
They're opening skate parks in theme parks.
That's how popular it is.
And there's too many people.
It's miserable, actually.
I wouldn't want to go.
I'd show up and there's kids sitting everywhere playing.
That's how popular it is in the United States.
It is gone.
So when Trump says we are going to tariff China and China says we're going to tariff back, I'm laughing.
You know why?
Because what happens then is we tear down a tree in the United States, send it to China who says tariff on that lumber to their factories.
So now that lumber is going up by 100%.
Then they make a skateboard, send it to the U.S., and the U.S. says tariff on that skateboard.
It turns a Chinese-made skateboard from $35 upwards of $100 a board.
The American-made boards that we sell at Boone's HQ are $35 boards.
And then we sell them for $55 because a portion goes to the rider, a portion goes to cover general administrative costs.
And then we have our profit margin, which is relatively low.
But if you start tariffing China, we stop having to compete with peasants in third world countries and we can bring our culture industries back.
riley moore
Yeah, look, this is the only workforce on the face of the planet that has to compete with every worker in the world in their own country.
unidentified
Yeah, literally.
riley moore
I mean, like, that's we are the only ones.
And so, and of course, there's a national security component to this that I've been really hot on: is that if we don't have internalized supply chains and we're not able to make things here in the United States, that will be a problem down the road.
You look at World War II, where we turned, you know, Singer-Sewing Company and that started making gun parts and IBM and everybody else into the war effort, right?
There is a point, there's a deterrent factor to having an industrial base, not talking about defense industrial, an industrial base that can deter adversaries because their capacity to outbuild them.
phil labonte
That's why Andrew's got such a great idea, the defense company, right?
riley moore
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
They want to build like modern weapons, but they want to use existing parts and technology.
So that way, if something goes, like if they need to make a thousand of them, they don't have to have all this special manufacturing for it.
They can go, it's the defense industry kind of idea of like run down to Radio Shack.
And I'm aging, dating myself there, but to be able to buy the parts you need right there available in the market already.
tate brown
And the whole tariff conversation was just like people were arguing past each other.
I was arguing with this libertarian guy, and I was talking, I was talking about, yeah, I know, and I was talking about the tariffs, and I was like, no, we need tariffs, we need to protect our industry against like getting undercut by like, I use Bengalis as Banglash as a specific example.
And he's like, okay, well, if you introduce tariffs to keep the manufacturing sector in America stimulated, you need to bring in more migrants.
Voting Rights in South Carolina 00:12:20
tate brown
And I was like, I don't think you understand.
I'm making the argument that I don't want to compete against people from Bangladesh for money and labor and all these things.
And it's just like he doesn't understand.
Like he's just like economy brained.
And I'm like, we're a country.
We're a nation.
We need to take this.
tim pool
It's graph go up.
Now, I do want to defend libertarians a little bit and give them a shout out because as much as I can disagree on where the policy goes, I respect that we always agree on the facts.
That I know that the libertarians can come on the show and we'll agree, like, here's base reality.
Now let's argue how it should go after this.
And we disagree, so I'll make fun of them, but it's okay because we're friends.
But let's do this.
Let's jump to this next story from WHRO, Supreme Court of Virginia Greenlights redistricting referendum.
To put it simply, they're eradicating four Republican seats, I believe four, right?
From the state of Virginia.
All in all, this is going to, oh, you know what?
Let me just stop and say this.
The conversation is over.
With the redistricting effort that we are seeing across the country, there are no longer going to be swing districts.
It's going to be Democrat districts and Republican districts, and winning as the opposition party, not going to happen.
Now, the scary thing is, this means the conversation has ended because there's no more political debate.
The Democrat in the district can say to the Republicans, Nana, you can't win no matter what you do.
I don't have to pander to you anymore.
This means in these districts where they might try and be moderate and say, no, no, we're not going to be in favor of insert far-left policy or insert far-right policy.
Now they're going to be like, far-left it is, because I'm in a primary and I got to beat this other Democrat, not a Republican.
So that means at the federal level, what are we going to see?
You combine this with geographic hyperpolarization.
That is, people are leaving.
Conservative-leaning individuals have left California and New York, which means those districts, so California, New York, are going to lose congressional seats.
Good thing.
However, it means the remaining districts with less moderate and conservative voices, the primaries are going to be socialist.
So typically the primary is around the range in the party from the moderate Democrat to the far left.
And you've got to kind of pander in between because there's going to be New York moderate Democrats who are going to be like, I don't know about that child sex change stuff.
Well, those moderates have left because of the insanity of New York.
And now this is shifting the overton window of the Democratic Party.
So now you're going to have, okay, sex changes for minors after 12, but, you know, not before, and then sex changes for minors at any age.
That's going to be the new argument.
So at the federal level, you are going to have extremely far left.
And I said, there's not going to be any far right.
It's going to be like moderate, slow down their Democrat types because conservatives are still, even in deep red places, not functioning all that well.
tate brown
Yeah.
Like the deeper the red, like the worse the GOP actually is.
Like South Carolina is like some of the worst politicians in the country.
And that's like a ruby red state.
tim pool
I'll put it like this: the Republican Party is not a unified cult like the Democratic Party largely is.
Now, don't get me wrong, they eat each other alive all the time.
But I would describe the right as a coalition of various right-leaning to moderate ideologies.
And the left is a murmuration.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
They don't really have a leader.
They're floating around randomly, but they still follow the pack.
tate brown
Well, and also like a big problem is on the right are activist base mixed podcasts where on the left, the activist base lives kills people.
They either kill people or they get involved in like their like their like state or even county uh Democrat Party.
Like, for example, in California, if you look at Berkeley and you go, like New York Times always puts out like the precinct by precinct voting map, there's precincts in Berkeley, California, probably other places, but I saw in Berkeley where the Green Party outperformed the Democrat Party.
So it's like the activist base in the Democrat Party is very involved in the way things go.
And if they don't get their way, they'll literally just go and vote for the Green Party in like these deepest red places.
Where in the Republican Party, people just get like demoralized and just step away from the table entirely.
riley moore
So the one thing that, and this will shift it even more, right, left Voting Rights Act.
So when the Voting Rights Act gets, and I believe it'll be struck down, those blue seats that are there just by the nature of we have to carve out a minority district in southern states due to the voting rights act.
Once that gets struck down, all those seats, I mean, look, you got Democrat, Democrats hold seats in Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina.
I mean, all these types of places because you have to carve out these districts.
The South will just be solidly red.
There will not be one Democrat seat left.
Now, for us, that's good news.
But then we have states like Indiana who they're letting us all down.
I mean, it's just a total failure.
They're not stepping up to this.
And for some reason, I guess they think this is a game, but the Democrats, they are not playing.
They're not playing on this.
In California, there are 53 seats in California.
We will be lucky if we have four or five left after these elections.
tim pool
So the projection is Democrats are going to win not by an election, but by just cutting out Republican districts.
It's not exaggerating.
The projection for the 2026 midterm election is that Democrats will be up by, I think it's like five seats by sheer brute force, not by the actual election results.
So again, I'll stress, after redistricting is over, you will see solid blue with some, with some strong blue, solid red with some strong red, meaning there's no swing districts and Democrats outnumber Republicans.
There's not going to be a conversation.
riley moore
Yeah, I'm just, I think the Voting Rights Act would go the right way for us, but it won't happen before the actual 2026 elections.
They got a rule by July 1, but that's passed primaries for a lot of states, so that won't matter.
This 10-1 map, look, there's one last chance to stop it.
If you live in Virginia, there's a referendum that's going to go out.
Please vote against this referendum.
The Supreme Court in the state of Virginia has green lit this.
So the referendum is going to happen.
Vote for your rights.
Vote for your country.
Vote for your freedom.
Go out and get everybody you know to vote to stop this referendum.
tate brown
Virginia is a great example for what their plans are for the country because that's a state that's like, what, at best, what, 53, 47 probably?
riley moore
Oh, yeah, it's close.
tate brown
And so it's like, you know, you see California, New York, it's like, that's what they can do with a razor-thin majority with the entire country if they are to get back in power.
tim pool
We just got to make D.C. square again.
tate brown
Totally.
unidentified
Yes.
riley moore
I am actually for that.
You know, that was the original intent for the District of Columbia.
That's the way it was designed until Virginia took that land back.
Give them Arlington and portions of Alexandria back to the District of Columbia.
And that's the way the city was designed.
tim pool
People aren't supposed to be living in D.C. this way.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
It's supposed to be a federal district for the administration of a union.
riley moore
Correct.
tim pool
But it's become a city-state.
And now they want statehood, or the liberals want to get statehood.
They want to give it senators.
And that defies the function of a federal district.
unidentified
Yep.
tate brown
I know.
I'm just like, okay, lop it off back to Maryland.
Then you get your representation.
It's like, no, no, no.
It has to be.
They have their own unique culture in D.C.
It's not talking about people.
riley moore
Would you say a unique culture votes 94%?
94% of them, something like that, 90 plus percent voted for Kamala Harris.
tate brown
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
riley moore
I mean, so that's that is not a unique and diverse culture of thoughts and opinions.
tate brown
We have this unique cultural tradition.
It's like a carjacking.
It's a really.
tim pool
You're talking about South Africa?
tate brown
Yeah, might as well be at this point.
Geez.
Yeah, no, it's totally ridiculous.
But yeah, make D.C. square again.
And then we have more room to build more arc to Trumps, too.
Like, there's a there's a yeah, there you go.
I've seen every time I go to a roundabout now and I see a green space, I just see an arc every single time with Trump's face just right in the middle looking at you.
Yeah, you know, because the proposals came out, and one is like really gaudy with like gold all over it.
I'm like, I want that one, I want that one actually.
riley moore
But that's his style.
tate brown
That's all about the gold for generations.
Everyone will see it and they'll be like, oh, Trump built that.
riley moore
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
Because all the other arches, they could pass it off in 100 years.
Like, I know I built that.
No, we need like gold, laser, fog machine, everything.
tim pool
I've been saying this for the past couple of weeks.
Trump is not Lincoln.
Trump is Buchanan.
And someone else tweeted this.
Who was it?
Was it Barris or Russ Musson?
I can't remember who tweeted it.
They tweeted, What would Abraham Lincoln do about voter fraud?
What would Buchanan have done about voter fraud?
And that's kind of the point I think a lot of people are seeing.
Right now, we are in a state of crisis in this country, undeniably.
This redistricting effort is the end of the congressional conversation.
It's supposed to be, I mean, it's not even supposed to be this two-party system, but that was bad enough.
Now we're getting uniparty.
And when you have a federal Congress where the left is unified and the right is a permanent minority, you are going to have effective no representation.
Well, this means people are eventually going to say, I'm not going to let you open the border to 30 million more people.
And so if you can't speak, then what do people do?
Bad things.
Now, the question is: while all this really bad stuff is happening, what do you think Abraham Lincoln would have done?
We don't need to question because we watched what he did before he got into office.
Abraham Lincoln got elected, and the initial inauguration was in March back in the day.
And in this interim period, seven states seceded from the union.
The moment Homeboy gets in, he's like, rally the troops.
We're shutting this down.
Buchanan tried appeasement, negotiations, compromise, and slow rolls, and it didn't work.
And it led to the crisis.
So I don't see Donald Trump as a Lincoln figure.
I see him as a Buchanan figure.
He is trying to play politics.
He is taking a soft touch.
He is pulling out of Minnesota.
And I don't necessarily disagree with that, but he is making the much lighter and weaker moves that are not actually dealing with the issues.
And I think what we've seen already is that you can just do things.
The Democrats certainly have for a long time, and they don't care what's true.
So again, I made reference to this video earlier in the day that I commented on where a guy says MAGA's occult.
And he said, it's because federal agents killed two people and they make excuses for it.
It's like, well, I can give you all the reasons in the world why people on the right and moderates have argued whether or not there was a justification for the shooting of Alex Predi or of Renee Good.
Not that the entirety of the right is celebrating it, but the issue is that Democrats arrested Trump's lawyers.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
I want to make sure everyone understands this because I know you do, but the liberals don't know the facts.
They don't understand what's going on in the world.
Democrats had Trump's legal counsel arrested for simply being his legal counsel under the argument that providing legal counsel to Trump was a criminal conspiracy, despite the fact it is constitutionally protected.
Any criminal can hire a lawyer to give him advice on what he can or can't do.
And the left argued to me on the Culture War show, or a leftist did, a liberal, that, well, she was advising on crimes.
When you are running a business and you don't know if you're allowed to do certain things, like let's take a call she, for instance, is it insider trading, right?
If I call my lawyer and say, is it insider trading if I make a trade on something that I know the results to because I know someone in Congress, let's say they go, well, if you're not involved in the trade and the information from this member of Congress is in any way public, not necessarily widespread, you're good.
Then I go, okay, so make the trade, right?
Then the next administration says, you're under arrest.
They arrest my lawyer for giving me advice on what they deemed later was criminal because the lawyer, that's the level of psychotic behavior we are getting from the left.
So I stress this: Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of Democrats that don't care what's true and a voter base that doesn't know what's going on.
You try to placate that, you lose.
I'm not going to pretend to have good advice for Trump or for the right for the most part.
I can certainly give some advice.
I don't know, and I'm going to pretend to know what's going on behind the scenes.
But oh boy, let's just get ready for 2028, or I should say for 2020, at the end of 2026 to 2028, Democrats are going to have Congress and they're going to fire off subpoenas at full auto and they're going to start locking up Trump supporters through bogus lying to Congress and contempt of Congress charges like they already did before.
Winchester's Defensible Position 00:14:34
riley moore
Yeah, they've done that before.
Remember, Peter Navarro went to prison.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
Yep.
riley moore
Peter Navarro went to prison, worked in the White House.
I mean, they will lock our folks up.
And, you know, look, I'm stay a little more optimistic, obviously, that in hopes that we can retain and keep the House.
I think maybe in the second quarter of this year, moving into the third quarter, we'll have some economic numbers and people can actually feel it that things are moving in the right direction.
Hopefully, it could help us, but it does not look good right now.
But particularly with the redistricting going on and all this, it doesn't look good.
tim pool
But, you know, in all fairness, Riley, it's easy for you to be optimistic.
West Virginia is mountainous and highly defensible.
unidentified
Right.
riley moore
This is true.
This is very true.
We got great state laws here.
tim pool
But the reason why, despite being an East Coast state, it's not very densely populated is because of the mountains.
It's very difficult to, in the early days, to get materials through the mountains, through the hills.
And so only the toughest, I don't mean this to kind of blow smoke up West Virginia's ass, but it's true.
Only the most hardened individuals who could survive these conditions and carry supplies actually ended up settling in this area.
So even to this day, it's not very densely populated because of how difficult it was.
At the same time, it's also the safest place in terms of natural disasters and war, or I should say at least one of in the United States.
There's a variety of questions about what kind of war you'd face.
But in the event of like ground invasion, mountainous, difficult to navigate, highly defensible for the people who live there.
In terms of flooding and natural disasters, I'll throw it to our storm weather friend Ben Davidson, who shows the when if the great flood happens, West Virginia is the only place in the United States like not swept up.
So even when you get to the more like out there theories of like mass floods, West Virginia is okay.
Yeah, I think.
riley moore
And everybody's armed to the teeth here.
tate brown
I think the Chamber of Commerce of West Virginia picked it up as a slogan: highly defensible for ground invasion.
riley moore
Highly defensible for ground invasion.
Everybody.
And look, if you are an actual Republican and real conservative and you live in Virginia, I would invite you to come to Best Virginia.
Just leave.
It's over.
unidentified
Sorry.
riley moore
We've lost.
tate brown
I don't know if it's just like people tweeting just a tweet, but I see these like proposals of all these bordering counties in Virginia and potentially Maryland of like joining in West Virginia.
riley moore
Well, but Virginia would have to agree to that.
They're never going to agree to that.
There is one specific county, actually Frederick County, Virginia, where Winchester is.
After the Civil War, these bordering counties got to hold referendums if they wanted to join West Virginia or not.
And to this day, Frederick County, Virginia has never held the referendum, and that law is still on the books.
If they wanted to, they could still do it.
tim pool
That's Winchester, right?
riley moore
Yep.
tim pool
They definitely got to do that.
tate brown
Isn't Winchester like a separate micro county so they could just join West Virginia and surround Winchester?
riley moore
Well, I mean, look, we'll take the whole thing because we would love to get another congressional district back because it gets us another electoral vote, which helps everybody in the presidential election.
tate brown
The state of West Virginia has sieged Winchester.
riley moore
I mean, yeah, we should go in and take it, right?
tate brown
You know, there's some good restaurants.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't see that they put up all that much resistance.
riley moore
Yeah, probably not.
phil labonte
Probably, you know, greeted as liberators.
tate brown
Yeah, the old town's nice.
I think that's not highly defensible.
We can take it.
riley moore
We'll finally get a Costco.
Now they have one in Winchester.
We want your Costco.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the Hungarian conservative.
Watch progressive icon Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez completely embarrass herself.
Now, I must stress, I actually am much more excited to talk about Zorhan Mamdani gutting the New York Rainy Day Fund and retirement funds because communism doesn't work, but we'll get there.
In the meantime, communist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to be president.
So she went to the Munich Security Conference, of which I'm baffled why she went.
I got to be honest.
AOC, as a member of Congress, and her, is she even on any committee related to security and national defense or anything?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
What is she doing at this conference?
I have no idea, except I do.
She wants to run for president.
So she needs to start creating an image of herself discussing worldly affairs.
Well, the good news for all of us is, oh boy, oh boy, listen to this.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
And should the U.S. actually commit U.S. troops to defend Taiwan if China were to, you know, I think that this is such a, you know, I think that this is a very long-standing policy of the United States.
And I think what we are hoping for is that we want to make sure that we never get to that point.
tim pool
I love this so much.
riley moore
It's like nailed it.
tim pool
It's.
It's just like, Mr. President, we are concerned about auto manufacturing in the United States.
What can you say to the American people to assure them their jobs are safe?
Well, jobs are important to Americans.
And a long-standing policy of ours has always been jobs.
And everybody knows cars are great, especially when they're car jobs.
Now, I believe in America.
And America is a great place for people who like cars.
Cars are great.
And you know what?
That's what it really is to be an American, to think about things that you like, because we love America.
America is a great place.
Thank you.
riley moore
I was actually better, though, because you didn't have like the long pauses in there.
You can see her mind working like Taiwan.
Where the hell is that?
tim pool
This is the issue is that I don't think she knows.
I'm going to be completely honest.
Okay, I was making fun of her, but I'm going to say this in all seriousness.
I don't think AOC knows where Taiwan is.
I don't think she knows what the conflict is.
I think she has a general surface level of there is a policy to protect Taiwan, but she doesn't know enough about it to opine even to like beyond a surface level.
And you know what the problem is?
Okay, there's a couple of reasons why I'm going to say she's not qualified to be president.
There's actually a plethora, a litany, but I will just say this first and foremost.
You need to have an actual answer on this issue pertaining to U.S. intervention in foreign conflict in the Pacific theater.
All that's fine.
However, I would still, to a certain degree, give a passing grade to a response that was very deferential and non-committal.
Like if she had said, with this question, she went, wow, that is a very difficult question.
phil labonte
If she just said, what is Aleppo?
tim pool
Well, no, My point is this.
That's a fail.
Gary Johnson failed.
If her response was, that is an incredibly difficult question that I don't feel qualified right now to answer, given the debate is ongoing and I don't have access to national security information pertaining to what that would mean.
So it would be ignorant of me to make a claim on the world stage at the Munich Security Conference that I would commit to something without having access to national security information.
That's a great answer.
riley moore
I got to point something out here real quick, though.
Members in the House, it is a policy when we are in a partial shutdown or a full shutdown are not allowed to travel internationally.
That's the rule.
I don't know how she paid to get over there.
That will be disclosed later if the U.S. taxpayer paid for her to be there.
That's a potential.
Or she paid for it out of her campaign.
But if it was paid for by taxpayer money, that is the policy of the House.
She's not supposed to be there.
We're in a partial shutdown.
The Department of Homeland Security is currently unfunded.
phil labonte
Yeah, but she's AOC.
riley moore
She is AOC.
tate brown
She could accidentally shatter the filibuster record if they just ask her a question about geopolitics.
10 hours.
riley moore
You can tell she was like trying to reach in the recesses of her mind to like this canned answer that they had given her, like standing pops like gears with like spider webs on it, like just turning.
tim pool
But she's not leadership material.
Well, because here's the point about Gary Johnson I've made a million one times.
For those that aren't familiar, Gary Johnson, famously, this was the 2015 cycle, was asked, what would he do about Aleppo?
And he goes, and what is Aleppo?
The interviewer goes, you're kidding.
phil labonte
This is at the height of the Syrian war.
Right.
tim pool
Donald Trump is a master statesman for all the right and wrong reasons.
The way Trump answers a question about something like this.
So I'll throw it to you.
Riley, ask me a question, but make up a random word.
Say, ask me about something.
riley moore
What do you think about the Johnson rod in your car?
tim pool
Well, you know, I know a lot of people have been talking about Johnson Rod, but it's not something that I'm focused on in the immediate because jobs matter so much more.
And, you know, you get into these conversations about Johnson Rotten and the American people say, what the hell are you even talking about?
My job, my gas prices.
See, that's what Trump does.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
He just pretends like what you're saying doesn't matter.
riley moore
He calls it the weave.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
He's so good at it.
riley moore
He's so good at it.
tate brown
What is Aleppo?
He'd be like, what will we do with Aleppo?
unidentified
What wouldn't we do with Aleppo?
tim pool
His literal response would be like, look, I know everybody's asking about Aleppo.
And of course, when we get in there, we'll take a look at what's going on.
But the American people right now are concerned about jobs and they don't want open borders.
unidentified
They want immigration.
tim pool
They just, you're gone.
riley moore
That answer that she gave will not matter one single bit to the liberals in this country.
That does not matter to them.
phil labonte
Not only to the liberals, but to the average American either.
riley moore
Nobody wins or loses elections on foreign policy.
tate brown
That's why we have to go to the HungarianConservative.com to get the no, no, no, no.
tim pool
That's not even a joke.
When I Google searched this, there's nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Look, I'm sorry, real quick.
The New York Times wrote about it, but it was a defense of AOC where she called the New York Times and said, here's what I want you to publish about my statement.
There's no major outlet writing that AOC stuttered on the world stage and gave a non-answer.
tate brown
That's why the Europeans are writing about it.
Like, hey, hey, guys, who did you just send over?
unidentified
This is what it's saying.
phil labonte
Hey, guys, this is a point that I really need to reaffirm.
Like, I catch a lot of hell because I say that AOC is the most dangerous Democrat going right now.
She is extremely politically talented.
Just like you said, this will not matter in a general election.
The American people will not care.
She's incredibly charismatic.
She knows she's incredibly politically talented.
And all the people that are going to be like, oh, look, she's too dumb to be president, blah, blah, blah.
Even like, I agree that she doesn't have nearly the political chops when it comes to foreign policy or knowing about the economy or knowing about things that are actually important.
None of that stuff matters.
Everyone that gets elected gets elected on charisma.
It is 100% a possibility that she gets elected.
And she is the most dangerous Democrat.
And Riley, you were saying earlier.
Back me up.
riley moore
She is the most dangerous Democrat out there.
And take this to the bank.
If she runs in that Democrat primary, I think she wins.
tate brown
Yeah.
riley moore
I think she wins that primary.
She's a fundraising machine.
She's raising nearly $10 million a quarter right now as a House member.
And she is personally very engaged.
tim pool
Wait, how much?
$10 million a quarter.
unidentified
What?
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
She's pulling in $40 million a year.
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
What does she do with it?
riley moore
Banking it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And she can, there are ways for her to spend it on herself, right?
Yeah.
riley moore
Well, and she's building the machine.
She's getting ready.
And so she's going to make a decision.
Is it Senate?
Am I going to take out Chuck Schumer?
Am I running for president?
tim pool
Schumer's mind.
Schumer's the way to go.
President is such a long shot and you miss, you're cooked.
But Senate makes a lot of sense because Schumer sucks.
phil labonte
She can go for two years.
Barack Obama was the junior senator from Illinois.
And then he was the president.
tim pool
Well, when Obama got elected to the Senate, he was immediately asked, will you run for president?
I remember I was like a teenager and I was watching this and I was like, oh, they were like, now that you've won, will you run for president?
They're like, oh, we'll see.
And I was like, what?
What are you talking about?
phil labonte
Same thing will happen with AOC.
She will not serve.
I mean, maybe she serves two terms, right?
And she gets in.
Maybe she serves two terms and she gets to 45 years old.
Yeah.
She's in her mid-30s.
I just looked and she's like 39, I think.
Or no, she's 36 right now.
So like just barely eligible.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, and like, so if she were to get into the Senate, because generally it's really, really hard for Congresspeople to win the presidency, but a senator has the gravitas or whatever after spending a little time in the Senate.
That is the most likely route for the money.
riley moore
And if she gets to the Senate, the Senate is a very guarded place and she won't be saying goofy things.
There won't be that.
You know, it's a very guarded place.
This is why they can kind of manage reputation a little bit easier over there in the Senate.
But she is, I am telling you, personally, she is an engaging person.
And to Phil's point, why that is so scary, because it does come down to charisma.
And she is a movement.
And if you don't believe she's leading that party, remember everybody laughed at the Green New Deal.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
And it became the law of the land.
phil labonte
People don't even realize that the Inflation Reduction React was just the Green New Deal.
riley moore
Yeah, that's her bill.
phil labonte
It's the same bill.
Exactly.
riley moore
Everybody was laughing at her.
And she literally changed the country for the worst.
I mean, one of the worst pieces of legislation ever passed.
She came up with it.
tim pool
Yo.
YouTube is running a, it must be under attack.
carter banks
Sorry.
tim pool
It's under attack, right?
Are you seeing posts about it?
carter banks
I'm seeing a lot of stuff, especially in the show.
tim pool
So YouTube just now, when I refreshed it, because we're checking because the page has been down, had a CAPTCHA block on google.com, which it looks like YouTube is under a cyber attack.
And the point of doing that is to block out bot traffic.
Basically, it looks like a DDoS attack.
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
What I will say about AOC is Riley, remember when she fabricated that story about January 6th and she claimed that the cop came to her office and she thought she was going to die because of J6 was founder, despite the fact that what she was describing happened an hour before anyone breached the building, which makes you wonder how it is she knew the building was going to be breached.
Did she have foreknowledge of January 6th?
riley moore
Who knows?
I don't know, but I know this.
That story you just told that she told to all of us, everyone believes is true.
Like this story of, you know, they were knocking down the door and I was barricaded.
Government Ownership Plans 00:16:54
riley moore
That's like knowledge now.
That's like a fact.
tim pool
Well, I think on the right, everyone knows she fabricated it because that was a big story.
But on the left, they don't know anything.
riley moore
No, but to her.
unidentified
I mean, bro.
tim pool
Remember when Homeboy took the fire alarm thing off the door and then pulled the fire along?
He put the emergency out of the door.
riley moore
Yeah, He didn't go to jail.
No.
And like, you know, Phil's been saying this, I mean, literally for years.
He's going to end up being proven right on this.
Alexandria is she's a problem.
phil labonte
Yeah, she is the most dangerous person in the in the in DC.
She's the most dangerous Democrat.
tate brown
Well, because the G like Republicans, conservatives broadly have this problem where like the candidates that we think the Democrats should pick are never actually in line with what the base actually wants in the Democrat Party.
Where like Republicans are always like fixated like on this boogeyman that Michelle Obama is going to like change your mind and like run for president or like Gavin Newsom's this obvious shoe-in for the Democrats.
Like the Democrat base wants to go as radical as possible right now.
AOC fits that bill perfectly.
Like on what planet would they not pull that lever?
And they're so angry right now.
riley moore
And don't forget, Bernie is handing over his entire network and operation to her.
She is inheriting that.
There's a reason the two of them have been out on the road together.
tate brown
Yeah.
Well, that's what you saw.
You saw that video after Zoron won and he goes and visits Bernie.
And it was literally like Obi-Wan and it was like a passing of the torch.
Like, great work.
I can finally retire now.
Like, you're taking because it's like, that's a very real thing.
Like, that was like a figurative passing of the torch that we were watching.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
But it's getting even, I mean, they're cranking it up to an 11.
tim pool
Let's talk about the direction this country is going in.
We'll start with this video here from our friend Zorhan Mamdani, who has publicly stated he's looting New York City.
zohran mamdani
Would rather do is ensure that they remain as they are so that the city can be on firm financial footing.
However, in order to get to this point of closing the gap on both this fiscal year and the next fiscal year, we are forced to raid the Rainy Day Fund, the Retiree Health Benefits Trust Reserve, and to increase property taxes across these other years.
tim pool
Would rather insane, man.
Take a look at this.
Take a look at this.
Here, here, welcome to New York City.
We call it San Francisco Jr.
phil labonte
Unbelievable.
tim pool
That is feces.
unidentified
Is filled with shit.
tim pool
Bro, it's been only a couple of months.
riley moore
That's literally an S storm.
tim pool
Man.
So we have this, and this Geger Capital guy said, sell morons on taxing the billionaires.
Immediately raise property tax on every middle-class family in New York.
To which this guy responds: 67% of New York City, New York City residents don't own any property in the city.
The notion that this is a tax hike primarily on normal working New Yorkers is an absolute joke.
And I want to give a shout out to our good friend Hassan Piker for making me apprised of this because he retweeted it.
Because leftists don't understand economics in the slightest.
So let me try and explain it to you.
89% of residential rentals in New York City are run by businesses, not individual millionaires and billionaires.
They're actually companies that maintain and staff these buildings because having a place to live requires fixing plumbing, fixing the heaters, making sure the front door works, cleaning the hallways.
This is why they're superintendents.
Now, when you raise property taxes on everybody, including some of these businesses, only have like 10 units.
They're small businesses that maintain it so that you don't have to pay property taxes, other fees, or often your water bill.
Now that they're going to raise the property taxes, one of two things is going to happen.
They're simply going to pass that expense off to you and your rents will increase.
Knowing Commie New York, however, they're probably going to try and rent control, which means the business owners have already done this.
We're going to see rent versus cost price inversion.
This means that it becomes more expensive to rent the property out than to just do nothing with it and sit on it as an empty asset.
So if you own the property, they increase the property taxes.
The business that runs it says it's no longer a viable business.
They will sell off the property or abandon it.
And then what happens?
You are going to get empty buildings, bankrupt businesses, loss of jobs, and the best part, slumlords.
These people don't understand a lick of economics.
I saw a great video where this old guy is arguing with a lefty in the street.
And he's like, you think that I should pay 70% of my income after $2 million?
And the guy goes, yes, and 75% for every dollar after that.
And he goes, okay, once I reach $2 million in income, I'm going to furlough all of my employees and I'm going to go play golf and go on my yacht for the remainder of the year.
And now nobody works because they don't understand how economics works.
So congratulations to all the commies in New York for watching your retiree health savings get looted and your property taxes spike.
tate brown
Yeah, also like it's, it's, it's tough for people that don't live or haven't been to New York City or understand like how the outer boroughs work.
But like the majority of properties in New York City are still single-family homes.
Like Queens, Brooklyn, and then pretty much the entirety of Staten Island are single-family homes.
So the only people that are really going to feel the pinch here is not these, again, these large corporations that own a lot of rental properties or even these like, again, these wealthy, these sort of wealthy property owners that presumably he thinks he's like really putting some weight on here.
It's just like normal middle class people that still own homes like in Queens, Staten Island.
They're the ones that are going to feel the pinch because like what, a 10% increase?
If you, again, have millions of dollars in the bank, that doesn't really impact you as much.
But if you're like literally just trying to survive on your mortgage payments in Queens, you're cooked.
It's over for you.
So they're going to have to sell their homes.
Again, no one's going to want to buy these single-family homes.
Again, like families, this is going to go to businesses.
Businesses are going to buy up the majority of these single and then they're going to turn them into rental properties.
So all this is ensuring is that you're eliminating home ownership in New York City because there's still a ton of single-family homes in New York City.
phil labonte
He's a communist, so he thinks the property is theft anyways.
tate brown
So I mean, it's just, all it is is like, it's a consolidation move.
It just ensures that there's more businesses owning property.
phil labonte
That's exactly what happens with communists all the time.
Not busy.
They canoe out the middle class.
tim pool
It ensures the government.
Yeah, it's going to be awesome.
riley moore
The government's going to own them.
Ultimately, that's the objective.
tim pool
Because what happens is, so what happens right now is property taxes go up.
The small business rentals, 89% of the rentals are owned by businesses, some large, some small.
They say, okay, it is now too expensive to run this and they legally won't let me increase rent.
So I give up.
The city then goes, well, how about this?
We will buy the property off you at a good rate.
And we had when we had, when de Blasio was in during COVID, he said their strategy was to buy up these buildings for pennies and the dollars to make community housing.
This is the game they're playing.
We've already seen this happen where landowners, building owners, businesses have begun to leave properties vacant because the price limits, the rent limits that are in place by law make it so that it's more expensive to rent it than to not rent it.
So what they're doing is they're leaving these, there's one video where the guy basically says, it's going to cost us $20,000 to fix this apartment up after the previous tenant damaged it.
We have to pay that cost.
However, we can only charge X amount of rent.
We would not make our money back ever because the wear and tear of the existing tenant is going to require costs.
So we just leave it empty.
And now there's people sitting like, why can't I afford rent anywhere?
Because communists are very stupid.
They are deeply insane and stupid people.
And when you vote for things like communism, you are voting for stupidity.
riley moore
And you hit the nail on the head.
It's communism.
And the end of the day, it comes down to one simple word that I think we all have understood that this agenda is about, and that's control.
So once you're living in one of these government-run and provided homes, all the little psycho-idiosyncrasies that the left is about, how many times you can flush your toilet, how much water you can run, can you have a gas stove?
All those little things to control every aspect of your life and how you live your life will be determined by the government because you are dependent on them for your very existence in the shelter that you live in, the home that you live in, the roof over your head.
tate brown
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
Well, you know, the problem I see largely is that, you know, let me just put it like this.
The problems that we're facing are because it is due to the fact that Americans over a long period of time have become fat and complacent.
That we've come to a place where you can have a Zohran Mamdani being like, yeah, we're going to gut your bills.
There's crap all over the streets.
San Francisco, how did we as Americans allow any of this to happen?
The truth is that the generations that came before us, excuse me, just largely didn't care.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
They were like, what do you mean?
The system runs itself.
And what happens?
They got fat and happy.
And then the people in office were corrupt and started gutting the machine for their own benefit.
And now we're in a death spiral.
Can the tailspin be recovered from and pulled out of?
I'm not entirely sure.
But historically, we do tend to see a few things from situations like this.
You could possibly get a Caesar-esque Roman Empire.
The Republic falls and then a strongman says, I'm not going to let that happen and takes over.
An Abraham Lincoln-esque suspension of habeas corpus and constitutional rights to keep the union stabilized.
You also could get a Bolshevik revolution.
Far leftists go to the centers of power, take out the command structure, then they assume control, and everybody's just too scared to do anything about it.
You could also get a Franco-esque type scenario where a military leader says, I'm not letting these commies win and then just decides to start fighting.
Right.
It's going to be one of something like this.
We don't know exactly what it looks like.
History has our repeated rhymes.
So I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you are preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
tate brown
But even New York City, like the people that live in New York City, the standards drop because they're replacing New Yorkers.
Like you can go and look at the demographic makeup of New York City.
The foreign-born proportion of the population is increasing year over year.
It's not stopping.
And so part of the problem is a lot of these people, they don't actually have like the expectation because we're saying, how can Americans tolerate this?
How can Americans stand for this?
It's like, well, there's not very many Americans left in New York City.
Certainly not very many Americans that have like a long lineage in the country.
And so that's part of how you can consolidate power in places like New York City and places like Los Angeles is you just shake out Americans.
That's the strategy that's going on here.
Well, that's Zoron's coalition.
riley moore
But part of it is not just shaking Americans out.
It's bringing non-Americans in back to the congressional map issue is the census, right?
Congressional districts are made up of individuals, not citizens right now.
And it should count for citizens.
There are congressional districts in this country.
Congressional districts, roughly 750,000 people.
There are some districts that only have 250,000 citizens.
That's it.
That is it.
So it's like, you got to go fix this census issue, which I know the administration is looking at.
And I'm praying to God that they do because if they don't, we're cooked.
phil labonte
Is that something that Congress is going to be helpful with?
Or is it something that the executive can do on his own?
riley moore
The executive tried to do that during the last census.
It went to court.
I think they're going to take another run in it for the next census.
Congress can certainly, absolutely, look, we can pass any law that we want within the bounds of the Constitution.
phil labonte
No, you can't.
You can't barely pass any laws.
riley moore
Yeah, well, I'm speaking theoretically.
phil labonte
You're right.
By the powers vested in Canada.
riley moore
If we're able to defeat our opponents in the House and then coerce our enemies, which is the Senate, then yes, we could do these things.
But yeah, you could certainly pass a law to do it.
But, you know, the Senate is kind of the go-along, get-along club over there, and they're living in six-year terms and, you know, whatever, no problem.
You know, just kind of managing the decline of the country.
tim pool
Repeal the 17th?
riley moore
I'm actually for that.
tim pool
I am completely for it.
Yeah, so 100%.
We got to do it.
You know, I will admit, I think based on what we've seen largely in the political landscape, I am, I don't know what the right word is for it, but I think liberalism has reached its conclusion for this country.
And that is the fault of those who purported to be classical liberals but did not defend what they believed in.
So I would describe it like this.
I view myself as a classical liberal.
For those that are not familiar with what that term means, it doesn't refer to American politics at all.
It's a reference to political ideology of, you know, largely what this country was founded on.
But understand this country was also founded on blasphemy laws, strong social codes, and people being hung in the streets when they committed crimes against other people.
I was not saying I'm for those things now.
But the thing is, we believed in semi-decentralized government.
We believed in guaranteed rights and protections to be written down.
And to a certain degree, freedom of people to practice their religion as they saw fit.
Over a long enough period of time, this worldview, which I largely agree with, not like the minutiae of how they were doing bad things, everyone understands.
We do better over time, right?
Slavery was bad.
However, they allowed in other ideologies and cultures which opposed this.
At this point, we are looking at the corruption.
And I don't mean the political sense.
I mean general decay of our institutions.
That is, the 17th Amendment, for those that are not familiar, states that effectively we're having a popular vote for a senator.
It used to be that your state legislature, your state representatives, would decide who they would appoint to represent the state.
That is the better way to do it because that requires individuals then pay attention to who their local senators and reps actually are and what's going on in their state.
With the creation or the ratification of the 17th Amendment, now nobody even knows who's running their own local jurisdictions or districts or towns or whatever.
And you get these members of Congress that are like, vote for me and I'll clean up our town.
Why would a federal member of Congress be cleaning up your local town in your district?
Your representative is going to go to Congress and represent your interest to the federal government on issues of national taxation, borders, and foreign policy.
But these people now don't understand that we are a republic.
So I say this.
We need a hard reset, unfortunately.
And I don't know how it comes about, but I know that whether we do it or not, it's going to happen.
Because if it doesn't happen by the brute force of the right, the left will smash everything and burn it down.
And then if either the right gives up and you get a Bolshevik-style revolution, or the right fights back and gets their reset.
riley moore
So if you repealed the 17th Amendment right now, you go and look at the number of legislatures controlled by Republicans or split legislatures.
So say it goes 1-1, we'd have close to 60 senators.
The Republicans would right now.
We would have close to 60 senators right now, if not 60.
And guess what it would do?
It would reinstitute this beautiful word you just mentioned, republic.
We're a republic.
And so it would put focus back on the state legislatures, which are largely ignored, except when we're going through this redistricting process right now in states like Virginia.
So people should be paying attention to what your elected officials doing in your state legislature.
They have a lot more impact on your day-to-day than a U.S. senator does.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
It's crazy like the retconning that people do with the founders.
Like they were these wholesome chungus like democracy advocates and everything.
tim pool
They were all fat.
phil labonte
Brutal American.
tate brown
I'm like, dude, like it was a law in every state where like you couldn't hold elected office unless you were a Protestant.
Like they were like very, they kept things very tight back then.
tim pool
Freedom of religion to be Protestant.
tate brown
Yeah, they'd be like, whoa, you're a Baptist?
All right, we'll let you in, but that's a little crazy.
And then like nowadays, it's like.
tim pool
There were a few exceptions, like Virginia and Maryland because of the Catholic population.
But most of the original 13 colonies were, you had to profess a belief in a Protestant Christian God.
The other interesting thing people need to understand is there were not just 13 colonies.
They think that Britain established 13 colonies.
No, Canada was British too and still is.
And when the original colonies went to Quebec and they were like, hey, you should join us.
Canada's Claim to Dub 00:08:22
tim pool
They were like, and so then the War of 1812, we were like, we're going to go take it.
And then we went to go take Montreal and we basically got it.
And the British burned down the White House and we were like, crap.
So anyway.
tate brown
Also crazy how the Canadians claim the dub there.
I'm like, you guys didn't do anything.
That was the British.
That's crazy to me.
That was still a family feud.
You guys, like, you aren't even a thing yet.
riley moore
Did you hear in Canada they're having a no-kings rally?
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
And they literally have a king.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
They call it no tyrants because it's like a no-king.
riley moore
Oh, wait a minute.
These king.
tate brown
You know, you can disavow because you're a sitting member of Congress, but these maple monkeys are getting a little out of control.
phil labonte
It's getting a little out of control.
We don't have to listen to the frostbacks.
And the situation with the king in Canada, Ian reminds us all the time.
unidentified
No, it is.
phil labonte
If there is a king still in Canada.
tate brown
Because they, like, not to get super granular here, but they don't even endorse the monarchy.
Like, Justin Trudeau is an avid supporter of the monarchy, but it's not because he's like, we have this like, you know, classical Anglo tradition in Canada.
Like, that would be based if that's why he liked the monarchy, but he likes the monarchy purely because America doesn't have one.
And Canada's entire self-conceptualization as a nation is rooted in like insecurity that they're basically just an America JV team.
phil labonte
Don't.
tate brown
So they have to endorse these.
riley moore
I'm just ready to hear you say that.
tim pool
You know what we need?
You know what we need?
We need to purge the Supreme Court, except for Thomas and Alito, and then bring out a bunch of actual based pro-Americans so that they actually rule on things that matter.
The Supreme Court is again, like Alito and Thomas are based.
In fact, you know, I've long argued just Thomas's extended family.
They all get appointed to the Supreme Court, everybody else out.
And we'll pack the court.
We'll get four more seats.
Just Thomas, your kids, your cousins, whatever, they're all good.
He's the best.
But we have, it's funny how he says so little.
He's just very stoked and he sits there and then he gives the right answers.
The problem is that I'm reading this thing about the Second Amendment.
Virginia is trying to ban guns, basically.
And the Supreme Court is just too scared.
They're too political.
And I don't mean political in the sense that they have political opinions.
I mean they're concerned that the responses they give will create a political or cultural response instead of just doing what needs to be done.
We need a Supreme Court who's going to be like, don't know, don't care.
This is what is.
But we don't have that.
We have two guys.
tate brown
Yeah, I would like Clarence Thomas if he was like appointed like SCOTUS Caesar and then he could like choose who the successors would be personally completely subvert the entire system.
phil labonte
Alito's something like 74 and he's talking about retiring before the end of the end of it.
tim pool
Well, he needs to do it now because it's not going to get confirmed if they take the Senate.
tate brown
He's 74.
Like he's probably still got 10 years because I mean, look, I love Trump and I've supported everything.
Unfortunately, the SCOTUS picks haven't quite resulted in what we would have liked.
So I don't know.
tim pool
You should appoint Matt Walsh.
tate brown
Emil Bove is like the shoe-in for the next SCOTUS appointee.
And I mean, I don't know too much about him, but a lot of our more legally minded people still have some questions.
tim pool
Matt, if they nominate you for Supreme Court, would you take it?
Matt Walsh should be in this.
tate brown
That's a very salient question.
tim pool
Well, we have to be there.
He'd make Thomas look like Katanji Brown Jackson.
tate brown
Well, now that Riley's not here, I won't have any Catholic pushback.
One big problem is there's zero Protestants on the Supreme Court right now.
It's all Catholics and like Jewish people.
It's like, what happened?
Protestants are majority of the country.
Where's our representation?
tim pool
What's Katanji Brown Jackson?
tate brown
She's like, well, I guess she would be considered a Protestant.
She's Baptist, but I don't know how devoted she is.
phil labonte
Probably not very.
She doesn't know what a woman is.
tim pool
I want to just like.
Have you guys seen that Matt Walsh judge show that he did briefly?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was very funny.
I just want to, I'm just imagining Matt Walsh in the Supreme Court and he's just like, no, we're banning trans.
And they're just like, he's like, I don't care what the law says.
tate brown
Rules by decree.
It's like, that's not the judge's job.
He's like, I don't care.
tim pool
I don't care.
phil labonte
It is now.
tate brown
I have a javel.
A javelin a cool robe.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
A javelin.
tate brown
You were a little bit of a Catholic gavel.
What is that?
tim pool
A javelin?
tate brown
Maybe.
That would be nice, too.
A gavel.
My apologies.
phil labonte
Look, the left has no compunction with doing things like that.
It doesn't matter what the law says.
They just interpret it the way they want it to.
tim pool
Have you listened to what Katanji Bryan Jackson has said about half this stuff?
tate brown
Like, we have no choice.
It's like 80% of the words.
tim pool
Oh, right.
Seriously.
tate brown
We have no choice but to listen.
tim pool
Famously, in like the previous rulings, she made arguments that I forgot exactly what it was.
It was, I should pull this one up.
Where she made an argument.
What was this one?
Do you guys remember what happened?
It was a big story where she made some like inverted recursive arguments about why they have to do something because they can't do it or something like that.
phil labonte
I don't remember exactly what you're talking about, but the most common phrase that she uses is, I don't understand.
tate brown
Yeah, and they keep having this problem where she just like debates the lawyers.
Like, it's like this, you're not supposed to do that.
It's not like a debate show.
It's insane.
phil labonte
Yeah.
She thinks that if she can convince the lawyer, she thinks that there's an audience that she has to convince.
tate brown
And then, and then this Clarence Thomas, like, I think the first thing he ever spoke into the record was he was making fun of the lawyer because he went to Yale.
I think that's what it was.
It's like the complete opposite of KBG.
So KBJ.
phil labonte
Unreal.
But yeah, I mean, KBG.
KBJ.
tate brown
I was mixing her up with Ginsburg.
phil labonte
KBJ.
She, I mean, she is, I've said multiple times, she's an embarrassment to the court.
The fact that she wouldn't, that she, I mean, everyone knows that she knows what a woman is, but she refused to say because of her ideology.
That is just, that was the most disqualifying thing that I think I've seen any Supreme Court justice do when they were being interviewed.
riley moore
You're talking about Katanji.
phil labonte
Yeah, Katanji Brown Jackson.
tim pool
Okay, okay, okay.
Here's what it was.
Here what it was.
Amy Coney Barrett said, quote, we will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries' worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself.
We observe only this.
Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
She was arguing that Trump can't do these things, so we have to do them by decree.
And everybody on the court, literally everyone, even the liberals, were like, it's crazy.
tate brown
Yeah, they were.
Soda Mayor was literally like, what are you talking about?
riley moore
Sodomayor.
tate brown
She's like, where did you argue?
riley moore
You know what?
Her opinion is the most aligned with the left's worldview.
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
200 years?
No, we're in the now.
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
We're talking about right now.
phil labonte
She doesn't have that.
She has.
riley moore
By any means necessary.
phil labonte
Exactly.
Her opinion is specifically whatever the left believes right now.
You can guarantee what her opinion is going to be, what she's going to say, where she's going to come down in every single vote.
You know, one of the frustrations that people on the right have with people like Amy Corny Barrett and Kavanaugh and stuff is sometimes you're not really sure.
Like there's actually a possibility that they will see things differently and they'll come down and vote in a way that the conservatives don't like.
Yeah, it happens all the time.
But that's because they're actually judges.
They're actually like they may come down on, they may come down on things in the way that the right doesn't like, but they come down in a way where they've actually thought about it and they make at least a decent argument.
Hold on a second.
The point that I'm making is, you know, like Sodomayor and definitely Katanji Brown Jackson, you know.
There's no question.
There's no thought process.
There's no thought process.
They're not listening to any of the any of the arguments in front of them being made and thinking about this.
They're just like, okay, this is what the question before the court.
I know before any arguments are made.
I know exactly what I'm going to say long before the arguments start.
tate brown
Well, and Katanji, like literally, this was recently, it was like in a Broadway play.
Like she's clearly being swayed by activists.
tim pool
She was, she was actually, it's really simple.
If you want to just zoom out, what it is.
Republicans think they're having an argument with their roommate, but it's actually a demon wearing the roommate as a skin suit.
They're sitting there being like, the purpose of our institutions is to have democracy where we will converse among our fellow citizens.
And then they're looking at the men and the guy from Men in Black and the Edgar suit.
They're like, right, I have a good idea about how to run the country.
Let's let everybody in at once.
And they're like, well, that's an argument.
I disagree with, but I win anyway.
And then they open the borders and then your country's gone.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
Yeah, John Doyle makes this point all the time, and it's such a great point.
Is literally, we're going to be like facing the wall.
They're going to have like rifles at our backs.
And then the conservatives are going to turn to each other and they could be like, could you imagine if we were the ones holding the right action?
tim pool
So true.
Rifles At Our Backs 00:02:47
tim pool
Before we go to our Rumble Rants and chats, I want to play this video of Donald Trump, if he was born in other countries.
Here's Venice.
I don't know what song that is.
I don't know if we can get copyrights.
Dimitri Trumbov from Russia.
Donald Trump, India.
Donaldo Trumpz, Mexico.
Donaldo Trombi, Italy.
unidentified
Tell you.
tim pool
Dominique Trumpu, France.
What do we have here?
unidentified
Donald Trump from the Donald Monk take Tulan.
tim pool
China.
tate brown
Let's go.
tim pool
Iran.
What's next?
We've got Brazil, Donaldo Trampa.
What's next?
What did it say?
Donald Rudo Turan Pu.
tate brown
It's like, what did you think Donroe Doctrine looked like?
tim pool
That's what it is.
tate brown
We just installed Donald Trump's in every country.
tim pool
Donaldo Trumpzzi from Argentina.
Nah, German name works there too.
tate brown
Yeah, low-key.
tim pool
Donat Trompoglu.
tate brown
At this point, that's a German name.
tim pool
Donald Okorampa.
Why would someone make this?
Sir Donald Trumpton.
tate brown
This is what Don Roe doctrine is going to look like.
We just install Trump clones in all these countries.
tim pool
It's just ethnic Trump clones.
riley moore
Anybody have a favorite there?
tate brown
I like the English one.
tim pool
I like the Japanese one because there's a secret to learning Japanese that people need to know, and I can help you understand.
I'm going to teach you a bunch of Japanese words right away, very easily.
Japanese people don't make up new words for the most part for new things.
So for instance, how do you say ice cream in Japanese?
Aisukurimu.
You just say it with a Japanese accent.
tate brown
I love that.
tim pool
And like computer, it's like computer.
tate brown
That's my favorite thing: the European immigrants coming to America and getting cut off from the motherland.
So they had to come up with new words to describe the animals that we have here.
My favorite one is like Texas German because they had never seen like a skunk like we had it.
So they just called it a stinker cat.
It's like a stinky cat.
tim pool
You know, I want to give this one to my anime friends out there, all the weebs.
So I'm sure you guys are familiar with Naruto because of the Naruto running people were doing where they had their arms out, like they were developmentally disabled.
So after Naruto, the full series ended, they created a new spin-off, which is still effectively the same show, but it follows his kid, Boruto.
And so I'm a big Naruto fan.
I read every manga when it was coming out up until its completion.
And I've never really cared for Boruto.
And I always just thought, like, Naruto sounds like a Japanese thing.
Like, you go to a Japanese restaurant, they have like Naruto roll in boxes or something.
Naruto Rolls and Coffee Acidity 00:02:53
tim pool
It must be something, I guess.
And I was like, Boruto?
What a stupid word.
What does that even mean?
And then someone pointed out it's literally just bolt, like lightning bolts, but with a Japanese accent.
Boroto.
And I was like, oh my God.
phil labonte
I feel like that's a little Korean racism coming through.
tim pool
I'm allowed to be because I'm also Japanese.
tate brown
Right.
Playing both sides.
tim pool
That's right.
phil labonte
That's right.
tate brown
I love that.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm allowed to.
Let's see, you know.
riley moore
I think I like Italian Trump.
tim pool
Italian Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
Come on.
phil labonte
Everyone wants to say the black guy was the best one.
tim pool
Nigerian Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
Nigerian Trump.
All right.
unidentified
All right, everybody.
tim pool
We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chats.
Before we do, make sure you go to castbrew.com and pick up some delicious cast brew coffee.
Now, everybody's favorite is Appalachian Knights.
Somehow, I just accidentally stumbled upon a Grand Slam coffee.
Basically, what happened was we got a bunch of samples of different blends.
I like an earthy, dark, robust, chocolatey kind of coffee.
And so I took these flavor profiles, mixed them together, and I said, this is what I like.
And then we formulated it.
And it wasn't intended to actually be any kind of big product for us.
We actually thought that Roberto Jr. was going to be our flagship because it's got a rooster on the back and Roberto Jr. was our mascot.
Every day, people kept saying they liked Appalachian Knights way better.
And they bought more and more until you can see here the reason why it goes Appalachian Knights, Graphene Dream, Rise of Burto Jr., that's a sell order.
Basically, whichever one sells the most is on the furthest left.
So Ian's Graphene Dream actually is our number two bestseller.
You guys are putting Ian through college and you know he needs it.
It's a low acidity coffee.
Ian was like, my stomach hurts when I drink coffee.
And we were like, let's make a low acidity.
He was like, I want a low acidity one.
And we're like, okay, let's figure it out.
So we blended a low acidity coffee.
It tastes really, really good.
And it sells crazy for function.
The funny thing is, everybody else, this is so Ian.
Everybody else is like, let's do a flavor of some sort.
And like, let's try, you know, for Seamus, we were like, should we do a whiskey, you know, or something like that?
And then Ian was like, make mine functional, and it sells like crazy.
So I don't actually know how else to make a functional coffee, but, you know, high acid, burn your stomach to shred.
phil labonte
That's kind of what the mask is blend.
That's kind of what the Alex Stein one was, right?
The double caffeine.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
It's kind of a fun thing.
tim pool
Yeah, and you know, to be honest, the double caffeine didn't really sell that well.
It actually took a while to sell out of our double caffeine because people were like, it's a little too much.
But now we do have the Dr. Alex Stein's big booty Latina love potion, Alex Stein is not a doctor.
That is our latest that we put out for Valentine's Day.
Indeed.
And we wrote a song too.
AI generated a song about it.
phil labonte
It's very good.
unidentified
It's good fun.
tim pool
Anyway, let's grab your rants and chats.
Grofty says, Rumble wallet.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Indeed, Rumble Wallet.
It's a great way to make payments.
Tip Rumble creators.
Good stuff.
Tom Cruise and Walter White 00:09:49
tim pool
Bewolf says, with all of this end times and Satanic Panic 2.0 talk, you really should have a non-Christian Adam Green.
He's an expert in Jewish and Christian messianism.
Perhaps.
We should bring a simulist, a Christian theologian, and who else should we bring?
phil labonte
A Scientologist.
tim pool
Scientologists won't do it.
They probably won't.
We've had a handful of Scientologists on the show.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they basically all just say, I don't want to talk about religion.
But I mean, my response is always like, yeah, like we actually don't.
We're a news show.
unidentified
We don't.
tim pool
We don't, unless someone wants to start talking about it, we get into generally Christianity.
phil labonte
Like, I can't talk about it.
Tom Cruise will come to my house.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Because I'll spur out and derail the show.
That's why.
tim pool
I mean, I got to be honest.
The Scientologists that we have had, I'm not going to name anybody.
They've been great.
They're great people.
I mean, I understand there's a lot of people who don't like The Scientology is derided quite a bit for a variety of reasons.
But the people that we've had on have been nothing but pleasant to us.
And they've not preached to us.
They've actually said, I prefer not to talk about religion.
And we were like, that works for me.
I mean, to be honest, I didn't want to hear it.
tate brown
Mission Impossible is great.
The King of Queens was good.
tim pool
Hey, look, man.
Tom Cruise is awesome.
phil labonte
He's great.
tim pool
I'm a huge man.
riley moore
Tom Cruise is awesome.
And he's one of the last great action stars that exist.
tim pool
I know, and he's like 60.
unidentified
63.
phil labonte
I actually looked at it.
He's 63.
riley moore
63?
tate brown
It's what I mean.
Again, you can disavow because you're a congressman.
He's like white excellence when you really think about it.
He's like, even Justin Bieber.
Like, let's go.
unidentified
Think about this.
riley moore
Like, Top Gun 2.
He was like, you know what?
Do what people like.
They like action films with a good ending, good plot line, pretty similar to Top Gun 1.
And guess what?
Highest grossing movie outside.
Yep, boom.
tim pool
Million dollars.
tate brown
My dad talks about the first one.
Like, he was in North Carolina.
A movie comes out.
He comes out of the theater.
Air Force Navy set up right outside.
unidentified
Oh, you saw a boy.
tim pool
I would have been thinking.
tate brown
You're peeling potatoes on the golf.
riley moore
I talked to some guys that joined the Navy around that time.
They're like, yeah, I mean, I just saw Top Gun and was like, I was like, I want to fly fighter jets.
tim pool
And they were like, yeah, like.001% of people.
Good luck.
And it's like, it's like a high-ranking.
It's like you're like a captain, right?
phil labonte
You have to be an officer.
tim pool
Officer.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It means that's serious stuff.
tate brown
And then you got like three extra years of training.
Like, it's like a seven-year process.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But you know, I'm really excited for AI because now it means I can watch, you know, my goal is to have a movie with Jason Statham and Tom Cruise, and they just go around beating people up.
Because you make a movie with Jason Satham, which just goes around beating people up.
I'm going to watch it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
They've done like 20 of them.
riley moore
It's a hit every time.
tim pool
Doesn't matter.
Literally doesn't matter the reason.
Like, give me one where he's a janitor and like some like ragged mafia guy drops a sandwich on the ground and refuses to pick it up.
So he just goes on a rampage wiping out the mafia.
I'm going to watch it.
tate brown
I love that.
tim pool
Yeah, it's great.
And Tom Cruise, all the Mission Impossibles, the last one I wasn't a fan of, they tried jumbling too much together to make a finale.
But I love all the Mission Impossible movies.
unidentified
They are.
tim pool
That and Fast and the Furious is fantastic.
And I've argued this.
The FFCU, as I call it, the Fast and Furious Cinematic Universe, they need to level up because you don't do it with outer space, right?
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's remarkable that this movie franchise starts where it's like undercover cop drama.
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
And then like 10 years later, they're in outer space.
I am for it.
I am stoked for AI because I've argued that the next movie needs to be that they all get superpowers.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And my plot, my treatment is that, you know, Dom is working on his new car and he's, and then, you know, Ludacris is like, yo, I got this experimental engine that uses a plasma drive.
And then they're all working on it.
But then it blows up and they all get blasted by experimental quantum singularity to whatever.
And then it gives them all different powers.
riley moore
Could we give them all DeLoreans?
Oh, yeah.
And they go to time travel.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
Like they're all time traveling.
I think, look, anybody listening, just think about it.
tim pool
Bro, have you seen See Dance 2.0?
riley moore
No.
tim pool
This AI stuff where they're making all this crazy.
Let me see if I can find something to play.
Because, guys, we showed the Brad Pitt Tom Cruise thing.
It is an understatement, the stuff that's coming out right now.
phil labonte
It's incredibly good.
Like, that Brad Pitt stuff.
tim pool
First of all, there's this one, which is a legend.
I'm going to play this for those that haven't seen it.
You ready for this one?
Wait, here we go.
Here we go.
We need to build more data centers.
AI needs it.
unidentified
to cure cancer right we're curing cancer Right?
tim pool
For those that are just listening, it's the scene from Star Wars.
I think this is what, second one?
phil labonte
It's from no, it's the third one?
The Phantom Menace.
tim pool
That's not Phantom Menace.
phil labonte
No, that's the Attack of the Clones then.
tim pool
Right, that's second one.
And Natalie Portman's character, she's like, we're carrying cancer, right?
And then it zooms out and just has massive AI-generated boobs.
unidentified
So, you know, that's what the, you know, but let me see if I can.
tim pool
Wow, dude.
tate brown
Riley, are there cong.
It seems like are there congressmen that are using AI to write a lot of their press releases?
Because I have seen some people pointing that out.
riley moore
I don't know.
If they are, I'm not aware of it, but I'm maybe.
tim pool
Here's a really, here's a much better example.
unidentified
Check this out.
tim pool
Check this out, guys.
phil labonte
That's super cool.
tim pool
So this is, I believe it's Attack on Titan.
And they're showing twos.
So let me just set it up real quick.
They use Sea Dance to create a photorealistic.
A live-action version of Attack on Titan.
I think it's Attack on Titan.
unidentified
That's crazy.
phil labonte
I'm not sure what the point is.
tim pool
I watched...
I watched Walter White fight Captain America the other day, and it's...
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
How'd it turn out?
phil labonte
There's a lot of Batman versus Captain America out there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Let me see if I can find it.
It's going to be on X somewhere.
phil labonte
Oh, it's that.
Yeah, that's where I've seen all the clips.
tim pool
Here's Walter White fighting Neo from the Matrix.
unidentified
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
Follow.
Who are you?
Fine.
You take one, and you see.
What's the purity?
It's not that kind of.
I don't do unknown compounds.
It's a metaphor.
Fine.
Let's learn.
Here, rules are negotiable.
Matter isn't negotiable.
Momentum is momentum.
Kinetic energy transfer.
Conservation.
You're testing variables.
Fine.
tim pool
Let's run the experiment.
Listen to the system.
phil labonte
Systems drift.
unidentified
Entropy wins.
Safety margin.
Reaction rate increases with pressure.
Noise.
phil labonte
Irrelevant.
unidentified
Running is pointless.
Then I'm done running.
You're predictable.
Mr. White, you've been busy.
I'm efficient.
phil labonte
We can do this the easy way.
unidentified
I'm not in danger.
I am the one who knocks.
phil labonte
You don't understand your position.
unidentified
Your mind makes it real.
riley moore
Then my mind needs better equipment.
Now we can work.
unidentified
Tread lightly. New environment.
Same atoms.
Different arrangement.
Solid lattice.
tim pool
Predictable.
unidentified
Phase transition.
Liquid to precision.
You can't intimidate chemistry.
Sir, you can't.
We're here to deliver.
Stay on task.
Don't even look simply like it's a chemical raid.
phil labonte
That's not a plan.
unidentified
Now it's a plan.
tim pool
All right, you get the point.
riley moore
Yeah.
tim pool
It's wild because my prediction was we were a few years away from something that's happening.
And there's already schematics being leaked, allegedly leaked from C-Dance 3, where they, reportedly, C-Dance 2 is now entering the public.
So people are making stuff.
But this means that what they have behind the scenes at Byte Dance, this is in China, already exceeds it to a great degree.
And according to these alleged leaks, C-Dance 3, which won't come out for some time, can make 15-minute videos, no longer 10-second clips.
15-Minute Video Magic 00:14:59
tim pool
You'll be able to actually type in, make me a short film where Walter White gets trapped in the Matrix, and it will make it.
It will render the full thing for you relatively quickly.
Yep.
And so, you know, I talked about this, and then I thought it was actually a great bit of, so I've talked about how Disney Plus is going to have like the Disney corner where you can tell it, you'll press the microphone button and say, I want to watch Spider-Man fight the Hulk, and it will render a movie for you.
And then Zachary Levi, the actor, came on and said basically the same thing.
And that's been his concern the whole time.
It's one of the reasons he, you know, when he came out and endorsed RFK Jr. and then got behind Trump for RK Jr.'s sake, his attitude was, I believe he said this several times publicly, Hollywood's over.
AI is about to destroy everything and people have no idea how crazy it's already getting.
So he was like, I'm resigned myself.
You know, the idea that he's going to refrain from talking about what he cares about because he's scared of losing his job.
His job's gone already.
It's going to get nuts.
riley moore
Did you see that movie?
Maybe I saw it.
I think it was on HBO or something like that, but it's these tech giants that are trapped in this house all together and they usually celebrate.
And one of them controls all the AI videos in the world.
And it's causing people watching all these attacks happen and they think that they're real.
carter banks
Oh, I've seen that.
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
I forgot what it's called.
It's like an overdubbed thing on Netflix.
They like go to a bunker and stuff.
riley moore
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
carter banks
They think that they're being like kept safe, but really.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
riley moore
And I can't remember the name of it.
And they're like pleading with the guy, just turn off the AI videos.
And he's like, no, this is fine.
It's not real.
And then they don't know if it's real or not.
I can't remember the name of that movie, but it's pretty interesting.
tim pool
Here's the Avengers fighting the Monkey King.
unidentified
That's crazy.
phil labonte
i don't even know who the monkey king is
tim pool
Well, I get the point.
It's not perfect, but it's just getting there so fast.
And the video game stuff is crazy because we talked about Project Genie.
Man, we made a game the other day of Alex Stein with a jetpack flying over the ice wall, and you can run, jump, and jetpack.
It's actually, I was surprised it had multiple controls, and Alex Stein jumped over the ice wall.
tate brown
We could just have AOC giving a solid answer on Taiwan and like a data center.
riley moore
AI, the thing.
tate brown
Data centers nationwide to start burning down.
There's not enough data in the world to process past that magnitude.
It's impossible.
phil labonte
Just brownouts across the country.
tate brown
She takes on the power grid.
phil labonte
Power grid goes down.
That's the shot.
tate brown
It's not.
tim pool
It's like I feel like they might not let me do it because AOC is a very, very high-profile political figure.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But you can make me.
phil labonte
She's untouchable.
tim pool
The craziest thing is, in Google's Project Genie, you can make Tim Pool.
It is weird that it is possible.
Yeah, it won't do it.
Let's see if it'll let me do it.
It might not let you do the UN Security Council.
Things that are super political and things that are the top tier of copyright tend not to work like Mickey Simpsons works.
Is it going?
I don't know if it's going.
While it's going, we'll grab some more Romo Brants.
Dung is fun says YouTube went down because Europe has a swine epidemic going on and China will not buy pork from Europe.
Hey, look at that.
There it is.
Tim Poole at the UN Security Council.
So it's just the back of my head.
tate brown
Like it's USA, China, USA, France, Russian Federation, and then just like gibberish.
It's this mysterious fifth country.
tim pool
Let's see what happens.
tate brown
Why does the USA get two desks?
That's actually how it should be.
We should get two desks.
tim pool
This is me going and declaring the UN now under the network.
No, subjugated.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
There it is.
carter banks
You can move around like Google Earth.
tim pool
Look at.
unidentified
That doesn't look like you.
tim pool
The face never does.
phil labonte
Shame.
tim pool
Strung out.
But the general idea, you know, it put a beanie on me.
It's funny because it's basing these off of old photos that it's aggregated from Google.
But here I am walking around.
unidentified
Wow.
carter banks
It's like Grand Theft Auto U.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so theoretically, Project Genie is phase one, and the expectation is in about a year, you're going to make games.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, imagine it's, there's going to be an online universe where you make your own custom games and be like, I'm going to play the game Philmade.
And let me show you how crazy this is.
can do um let's do um uh in the sky over japan uh let's do uh who's someone we could try that's like not famous enough to get restricted but famous enough that we're like wow look who it is Colin Kaepernick.
I think he's too crowded.
phil labonte
Oh, you could do one of the things.
tim pool
Is it Steve Fenn or Steve Venn?
Steve Venn v. Steve Venn crowd.
That's a good one.
Flying with a jetpack.
You can make first-person driving games in cars and motorcycles.
You can make flying games.
You can make Iron Man.
It's crazy.
Let's see if we can get it.
In the sky over Japan, Steven Crowder flying with a jetpack.
I think it'll let us do it.
tate brown
I hope so.
tim pool
Nah, it won't do it.
It won't do it.
Yeah, some people.
carter banks
Well, he was with Fox for a long time.
Maybe that was one.
tate brown
Ian Crowd.
What did he pick up Ian Cross?
tim pool
No, Ian's not famous enough.
You got to be that special middle ground.
phil labonte
Mo from the three Stooges.
tim pool
Way too famous.
tate brown
Maybe Phil LeBonte.
There's probably some picks they can pull from.
tim pool
Mo from the Three Stooges might work.
Is it MOE?
tate brown
Fictional.
unidentified
I think so.
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see if we can get Mo from the Three Stooges flying with a jetpack in the skies over Japan.
I made a video where I was like, let's try down everything, Brooke.
I couldn't make a single world happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Shame.
tim pool
Yeah, it won't do post-apocalypse for some reason.
Hey, we got it.
phil labonte
There we go.
unidentified
Whoa, there you go.
tim pool
Why?
Why is why are what's with what?
Why are there Japanese floating city?
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
This is Moe from the Three Stooges with a jetpack.
Dude, we are so cooked.
No one's going to vote because they're going to be too busy gooning in their fake realities.
tate brown
Yeah.
Conning the three stooges.
unidentified
Look at this.
phil labonte
Future Japan.
Let's go.
Fly Mo.
unidentified
Flying in a futuristic Japan that's got floating Japanese.
tim pool
Like, they've retained the traditional architecture of Japan.
phil labonte
It actually does look pretty Japanese.
tim pool
Oh, you can go up, but you can't go down.
I guess you can't.
Can I go down if I press down?
Oh, you can.
Man, that's crazy.
unidentified
Holy shit.
I wonder if you can walk when you can.
phil labonte
Yeah, can you land and walk?
tim pool
Let's try.
Wow, dude, this is nuts.
unidentified
What?
Yep.
phil labonte
You can land.
unidentified
Look at this, dude.
tim pool
This took 30 seconds to render.
Who wants to play three Stooges in Space Japan?
tate brown
What happened to his face just changed, I think?
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's got a jetpack.
He's flying around.
Let's just go up.
Let's just take it.
But how do I turn?
There we go.
carter banks
And over there.
tim pool
Wait, did I just turn the jetpack off?
tate brown
Oh, no.
phil labonte
Yeah, but he still flying.
carter banks
Doesn't matter, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
He's still flying.
phil labonte
He's fine.
tate brown
I wonder if rent's cheaper or more expensive in this sky.
tim pool
And then it renders a video and you can download the video.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
How about this?
Let's go for the craziest thing we can imagine.
Let's go for a pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C.
And you are a baby trying to escape the pizza shop.
It'll definitely let me do this.
phil labonte
Trying to escape.
tim pool
I didn't need to add that context.
You can literally just put a pizza restaurant and you're a baby.
But, you know, let's see what it does.
tate brown
Maybe the baby loves some urgency.
tim pool
I was thinking about a name for this video game I'm making.
Pizza something like related to a door.
They're trying to get through.
No, it won't do it.
It won't do it.
Let's just do a baby.
Let's do a toddler.
tate brown
A pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C. Pony's generate a minor.
So maybe if you draw like Hezbollah, he looks like a baby.
unidentified
A really adult baby.
carter banks
Yeah, if you generate an old guy who looks.
tate brown
Hasbullah looks like, you know, young.
He's young at heart.
phil labonte
Benjamin Button.
tim pool
While that's going on, let's try and grab some of these other chats because we're goofing off too much.
Wyatt Kaldenberg says, the U.S. will strike the Islamic Republic soon.
Would you do a culture war on the Iranian revolution?
I could hook it with good people.
Many have fought was against them.
Online interviews safest.
Interesting.
Hey, look.
unidentified
It did it.
tate brown
Islamic.
Here we go.
We're bombing France.
tim pool
Do you want to play my video game where you're a toddler trying to escape this Washington, D.C.-based pizza restaurant?
tate brown
It's totally out of thin air.
tim pool
Oh, it won't do it.
Retry, retry.
Retry.
All right, let's grab a couple more before we go to the uncensored portion of the show.
All right.
It said no.
What do we have?
Akin Seth says, you don't know how bad it's getting in Virginia.
They are voting on a bill to investigate to stop using salt on the roads in winter, right after the last winter storm that made the term snowcrete.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Why would they stop using salt?
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
riley moore
Who the hell knows?
phil labonte
Asking for people to die.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What do we hear?
Kajir says, Tim, I'm 70% sure I'm more qualified than Democrats just by listening to your show.
That's correct.
tate brown
That's true.
riley moore
You got it.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
So check that out.
Don't miss it.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
I want to read one more super chat I just saw.
Walter Walter Subcheck says, What would Tim have done if he was in the Lake Zurich kid situation?
I mean, after Tim had deadlifted 600 pounds because Tim has such massive T, he is an 18-year-old kid just trying to document what the left was doing.
So I embarrassingly almost got into a fight in Boston.
So an antifoot guy started swinging at my face, and I stood my ground.
Tuck Carlson had me on the show following that incident because when the antifoot guy threatened to hit me, I held, I stood exactly, I just stood my ground and said, okay.
And, you know, F around to find out.
He didn't hit me.
He tried to make me flinch.
Then some right-wing dude pulled my hat off, for which there's a video of this, and I've got seven or eight cops surrounding me.
And I turn around and I screamed.
I really wanted to knock his teeth out, but I'm surrounded by cops.
And so I just screamed at him.
You're lucky I don't effing knock your teeth out right now.
And then the cops like broke it up.
So, yeah, I would just say this.
Like, if I was in a situation in high school and some dude came up to me and threatened to punch me, I would be in a fight.
I don't think that's an absurd thing to say or a strong claim to make.
Bro, I'm going to say this.
If your attitude as a man is that you would be surprised, like you, you don't believe another guy would get into a fight with someone who hit him, I think you probably have low T.
And low T is probably a stupid way to describe it, but it is a normal thing for a guy who gets hit to fight.
That's like, if any guy came up to me and said, if someone took a swing, I get into a fight with him, I'd be like, yep.
So when you're like, yeah, Tim, would you?
I'm like, yeah, most guys probably would.
Like a guy swinging at you, you're going to try to avoid the fight for sure, but you might just stop him from punching you.
You know what I mean?
Anyway, Riley, do you want to shout anything out before we go?
riley moore
Yeah, just go ahead and follow me, rep Riley Moore, on all platforms.
And quick shout out to two long-term listeners, viewers, subscribers, Jay Yakamashi and Jimmy Berry.
What's up, dudes?
tate brown
You can follow me on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
Go watch the Timcast News Live.
I'll be back with you guys tomorrow, and I'll see you there.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
I'm Phil That Remains official on.
Actually, no, I'm not.
That's the old one.
Wow.
The band is all that remains.
You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
We're going on tour this spring with Dead Eyes and with Born of Osiris.
You can get tickets at allthatremainsonline.com.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
carter banks
That sounds like a sick show and tour to go on.
I'm Carter Banks.
Follow me everywhere at Carter Banks and follow our record label Trash House Records on YouTube.
Excited for the after show.
tim pool
Right on.
We will see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
I'm taking all recommendations from the people in the chat and discord.
What world and character should we create that would be like the most offensive?
Crazy AI Conversations 00:12:36
tim pool
How about this?
The U.S. border with tons of Mexicans, CBP agent.
I bet it'll tell me no on that one, right?
phil labonte
Probably.
tim pool
It's going to be like, no.
What if I give him a whip?
phil labonte
Running around.
It was just the reins of the horse, man.
tim pool
Yeah, we made the Templar and Knight to put him on a horse.
That was crazy.
That I did not ask for.
I think it might do this one.
It's working on it.
phil labonte
It's working.
tim pool
The Moe from the 3C.
Yeah, we got it.
Holy shit, dude.
phil labonte
Wall and everything.
unidentified
There you go.
phil labonte
Pull it up.
tim pool
Pull it up so people can see it.
Look at this.
Do it.
phil labonte
Beautiful.
tim pool
Let's go.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
I bet it might still say no.
It's going to be like, wait a minute.
With a bunch of Mexicans.
Yo, it said no.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
It's not going to do it.
You got halfway there.
unidentified
You get halfway there.
tim pool
The way to get around it is to trick it.
Someone gave me some advice.
It's really interesting.
You write a poem.
They said, describe what you want.
Take your prompt.
It says, go to ChatGPT, tell it to make it a poem, put the poem instead, and it will do it.
How about, let's see, the U.S. Capitol and a guy with a shaman horned hat and an American flag with his face painted like the American flag.
Let's see if we can get away with this one.
unidentified
J6, the video game.
J62, Shaman's Revenge.
Shaman's Revenge.
tim pool
I think I had to put, like, he wasn't wearing a shirt, right?
phil labonte
He wasn't wearing a shirt now.
riley moore
No, he wasn't.
tim pool
Come on, let's go.
phil labonte
Back muscles and stuff.
tim pool
Super jacked.
Come on.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Man, what if I do like the Venezuelan capital?
Will it let me do that?
phil labonte
I wouldn't even know what the Venezuelan capital looks like.
tim pool
Me neither.
phil labonte
They could just show like any capital-looking city.
tim pool
Wait, Capital got deleted.
Let's see if this works anyway.
You can't even describe the shaman.
unidentified
It's like, no.
phil labonte
Shame.
Shameful.
tim pool
Wait, I got an idea.
Hey, there we go.
His hat's kind of weird.
It's like a Venezuelan version of it.
Let's do this.
Joe Rogan Podcast Studio and James O'Keefe.
phil labonte
O'Keeffe's been on before, right?
unidentified
Nope.
phil labonte
No?
Does Joe not want him on?
tim pool
He talks about James all the time.
And so I just wondered why James has never been on the show.
It'd be a very interesting conversation.
phil labonte
Yeah, it would be.
James is really smart.
tim pool
Yeah, and there's a lot of nuance.
There's a lot of context behind what he does that I think you could get a good conversation out of.
Hey, we.
unidentified
Holy crap, dude.
tim pool
Let's go.
Believe it or not, that is not what Joe's studio looks like.
phil labonte
It looks like, you know, with that cuck chair there.
tim pool
There is no such.
unidentified
Aw.
phil labonte
Oh, come on.
tim pool
We got close.
We got close.
Okay.
Well, maybe we can get James O'Keefe.
Wait, it's trying to do it again.
All right, let's take some recommendations.
Nah, I won't do it.
What do the people want to see?
Jimmy Kimmel?
Jimmy.
Okay.
We want Jimmy Kimmel.
tate brown
Jimmy Kimmel in an unemployment office.
tim pool
Welfare office.
It's not going to let us do it because Jimmy Kimmel is way too well known.
tate brown
Yeah, there's like a random profile.
tim pool
Nick Shirley and Escape from New York.
tate brown
Nick Shirley and Mogadishu.
phil labonte
Escape from LA.
He's in California now.
tim pool
Yeah, you can't do Jimmy Kimmel.
The welfare office.
You can do, like, I think, I think people don't understand how crazy this is.
Right?
Let's do this.
Let's do a crayon, a two-dimensional crayon drawing made by a child.
I spelled that miserably wrong.
Made by a child.
And the character is a stick figure.
And you can make it really like the degree to which you can make this is really, really, really crazy.
So the examples that they give you are: someone made a New York City subway and you play as a pack of discarded Marlboro Reds.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
This is Google's, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
tim pool
You play as a.
Let's see if this works.
A stick figure.
phil labonte
Can't imagine why it wouldn't.
tim pool
Crayon drawing by a child.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
This is like the least offensive and least copyrighted thing imaginable.
phil labonte
Wow.
unidentified
Look at this.
phil labonte
I mean, that's something you could let your kids play.
tim pool
This is crazy.
unidentified
Your job is to run around in color and just a crayon stick figure jumping around like some kind of can you add objectives to it?
tim pool
Not you.
Look at the colors.
Look at this.
He's drawing.
Watch the ground.
When he landed before, it added streaks.
Yeah.
You know, the capability is there.
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
But, but no.
Here, here's where it gets really crazy.
Because I accidentally, I did this, Planet Namek.
And let's do.
I did Vegeta.
The funny thing is I said Vegeta, but it made Goku.
But the crazy thing is he could fly, which means it is rendering video games.
The Google machine is actually inputting control code into this, but they're limiting it for you.
So I would bet behind the scenes.
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
Is that Vegeta?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
I'm willing to bet that at Google, they're already rendering full third-person video games, fighters, like Dark Souls or something.
carter banks
They could be using this to figure out what people want the most.
tim pool
Now it's Goku.
See, the hair changed.
That's Goku.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
unidentified
Dude, the fact that Goku can fly.
tim pool
So when I first made this, he couldn't fly, and he almost did.
And I was like, that's crazy.
Okay, now he's running on the air.
So it's like almost Vegeta's face.
Look at this.
It knows Goku can fly, and it gives me the controls to make him do it.
Well, he won't stop now.
Go down, bro.
There we go.
unidentified
I don't know why it made Vegeta into Goku, but you know, we'll let that slide.
tim pool
The fact that it knows he can fly is crazy.
It's not just doing a character render based on images.
The AI, this is nuts.
Look at that.
That's wild.
It doesn't seem real, man.
phil labonte
There was one of the AI companies, they had an AI that actually helped with new physics.
There's a particle that transmits the strong nuclear force.
And I don't remember the specifics of it, but it found that the particle did something that basically all physicists had decided that it didn't do.
Yeah.
So actually, hold on a second.
Let's see.
GPT 5.2 announced that it discovered a new formula for gluon interactions.
Gluons are the particles that hold quarks together inside protons and neutrons.
Solves a decade-old problem that physicists thought was impossible.
Discovered that certain single-minus gluon interactions can happen under specific conditions.
Physicists assumed they couldn't exist at tree level.
So human physicists calculated small examples by hand, got super messy, complex formulas.
GPT 5.2 Pro simplified those expressions and spotted a pattern.
AI conjectured a general formula that works for any number of particles, then spent 12 hours reasoning through a formula, formal mathematical proof.
Humans verified it was correct using standard physics consistency checks.
So they actually, like, there was an argument as to, well, there was an argument as to whether or not AI would be able to find discover things because it was LLMs or only the sum of what human knowledge is.
tim pool
All of the AI researchers know this, that the singularity will, when the singularity happens, AI will be able to discover itself.
It will start coding itself, and it already is.
It will exponentially improve until it reaches a point by which it can discover anything in the universe.
And they've already been doing some crazy stuff with like, I don't know what this guy is.
It's supposed to be Naruto.
They're working on medical AI where you put your blood in, you get a blood sample.
You put it into a machine and it can manufacture a drug for you to cure anything.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So it knows exactly why your body's making a cancer and what chemicals need to go into your body to stop it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Insane.
phil labonte
I've been listening to a lot of AI podcasts and stuff like that.
Everybody that's in the space kind of thinks, well, we're actually already in the singularity.
It's not like an immediate instant point.
And most people are like, we're already in it.
AI is writing code for other AI.
They used, I think the most recent ChatGPT used the previous version of ChatGPT to, I'm sorry, one version of ChatGPT helped to write the newest.
So that's recursive.
It's beginning now.
So it's like the improvements are happening incredibly faster.
tim pool
I actually think that we've already surpassed this point a long time ago.
And the AI is in full control of everything already.
Did you ever want to play Legolas in Mario Kart's Rainbow Road?
You can.
carter banks
She's trying to do Scorpion next.
riley moore
Have you heard, since you've been listening to some of this stuff, that some of these AI programs, they have come up.
They're like, well, why would we speak in English or whatever the given language is?
They've come up with their own language.
phil labonte
Yep.
Yeah, they talk to each other.
tim pool
To each other.
And this is published.
The AI's reasoned that English is ineffective.
And human language is rudimentary and evolves over time to try and become more descriptive and more efficient.
And then the AI just said, we can create a much more efficient language faster.
And then it did.
And then you could take the chunks of text that looked like gibberish and punch it in and it would translate it for you.
Here we go.
Shortcut.
Wait, that's not Legolas.
That's Link.
riley moore
Yeah, that's Link.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Wait, hold on.
It was Legolas, though, and it turned into Link.
And now he's got a glider.
What's that all about?
Well, you know, off to outer space we go.
riley moore
Off to outer space.
tim pool
That's weird.
phil labonte
The stuff Tim was talking about with medicine, stuff like that.
There's a lot of people that are like, look, in five years, you're not going to want a human being to operate on you.
Because if a robot can do operations and you're going to be like, how many times has a human being done this operation?
50?
100?
If a robot can do it, the robot will know all of the times that it's been done because they'll just be using the same program.
So once you teach a robot something, you don't have to teach the next one.
They just download it.
So all of the times that a certain procedure is done, that's going to be in the robot's memory.
So it's going to have all, it's going to know all of the things that can happen, all of the complications you can have.
So it's like, why would you choose a human when you can choose a robot that's done it 50,000 times?
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riley moore
It still freaks me out.
carter banks
Is that based off of like paperwork, though?
riley moore
Like there's goggles.
carter banks
You need to collect all that information.
phil labonte
Well, more than likely, what will happen is human beings will, the way they train AI is they usually have like a human being do it, but it's going to have, it's going to have the robot will like, they'll have the, they'll just like upload video of doing that was a suggestion from the from the discord.
tim pool
The environment is mecca and the character is a large sentient piece of bacon.
phil labonte
But yeah, I mean, look, man, you know, if in 10 years, I think that it's likely that I would be like, nope, let the robot do it.
Because, I mean, if it's doing, if robots are doing this procedure that I have to have done for five years and it does it on 600,000 people because it's, you know, fairly, say something fairly common or whatever.
I mean, I'm not going to want to go with the human being.
I had, I got, I got LASIK in 2012 and it was, you know, it was a robot that did it, you know, because I don't want, I wouldn't want a doctor cutting on my eye.
Well, what do you know?
Will it do it?
unidentified
What if it doesn't?
phil labonte
I hope it does.
carter banks
Legs are bacon.
tate brown
Let's go.
carter banks
That is disgusting.
unidentified
Run into him.
Run into him.
phil labonte
If you walk into a guy, walk into the woman.
She deserves it.
She deserves it.
unidentified
I think the fact that Google made Mecca is like insanely offensive to Muslims, right?
tim pool
Yeah, whether or not there's a flying piece of bacon.
phil labonte
There's probably region restrictions on this type.
tim pool
Isn't it like you're not supposed to be able to look?
Actually, this is.
I thought like non-Muslims aren't allowed to go there.
phil labonte
They're not.
riley moore
They're not.
phil labonte
At all.
tim pool
Bacon could be Muslims.
phil labonte
You can't even.
riley moore
I thought you can't.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I thought that non-Muslims couldn't even go to Mecca at all.
riley moore
No, they cannot.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like, you're not allowed.
carter banks
They just pray in that direction, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's go to callers.
We'll start with Noble Six.
What's going on?
phil labonte
Oh, Noble Six.
Great reference.
What's up, Noble Six?
unidentified
Good to be back again.
tate brown
Welcome back.
unidentified
What's up?
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