Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Epstein BLOWBACK, Billionaire RESIGNS IN SHAME | Timcast IRL#1450 w/ Alex Stein
Aired: 2026-02-17
Duration: 02:45:53


=== Obama's Aliens Jump (02:16) ===

[00:02:29]  Don't sniffle three two we're at what I thought you said three two one.
[00:02:35]  Sorry.
[00:02:37]  How's it going?
[00:02:41]  Wait, what are you guys doing?
[00:02:42]  We're chilling.
[00:02:44]  Doing good.
[00:02:45]  Doing good?
[00:02:46]  Yeah, that's great.
[00:02:46]  It's a good starting show, everybody.
[00:02:48]  So a billionaire has resigned from the board.
[00:02:51]  He was the chairman of the Hyde Hotels, and he's the cousin of J.B. Pritzker.
[00:02:56]  Because of his Epstein ties, the emails came out and revealed uh-oh.
[00:03:00]  And now we're starting to see the blowback.
[00:03:02]  More emails are getting released, and there are a lot of questions.
[00:03:05]  Plus, there's an alleged list of names, but the Trump administration has released the Epstein name list, and a bunch of people on the right have blasted these out saying, here we go, we got the list of names.
[00:03:16]  And it's not a list of anything.
[00:03:19]  It doesn't accuse anybody of anything.
[00:03:21]  Some of these names that are mentioned are in it because it's like, I went to a party at this person's house, and it's completely unrelated to anything related to Epstein.
[00:03:28]  But we are seeing people now start to deal with the blowback.
[00:03:31]  And I will say this: the Epstein files are revealing that I would argue that for the most part, it was all true.
[00:03:37]  And when these prominent elites, when people in the FBI, for instance, people that we know, were saying, no, no, there's nothing to see here, there indeed is something to see here.
[00:03:46]  And I got to tell you, when Pam Bondi went to that hearing and was like, but the DAO is at 50,000, I was like, that's great.
[00:03:53]  We're allowed to care about two things at once.
[00:03:55]  Right now we're talking about the children who are being trafficked to an island and not the economy, which is good.
[00:04:02]  And you at the DOJ have nothing to do with that.
[00:04:05]  So can we now talk about the criminals who are not being held accountable?
[00:04:09]  When I look at this story, I see a guy, he's like 75 years old.
[00:04:11]  What does he really care?
[00:04:13]  Right?
[00:04:13]  But he's part of this massively wealthy family, which includes, he's the cousin of Illinois Governor J.P. Pritzker.
[00:04:20]  So very, very weird stuff.
[00:04:21]  And we'll talk about that.
[00:04:22]  Plus the jerky conspiracy theory, where in these emails, Epstein's talking about jerky, and people are claiming that he's eating people, eating people jerky.
[00:04:31]  So we'll talk about that.
[00:04:32]  And then probably my favorite slow News Day front page story came from Newsweek, where for seemingly no reason, or probably because there's no news, they decided to run a story that Trump was going to announce aliens are real.

=== Jerky Conspiracy Theory (05:49) ===

[00:04:46]  I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that Obama jumped the gun and said aliens are real.
[00:04:50]  There's been this rumor now for the past couple of weeks that Trump is going to hold some kind of press conference or a State of the Union address where he says we have proof that aliens exist or something like that.
[00:05:04]  And Obama then comes out on this liberal podcast and he goes, yeah, they're real.
[00:05:08]  And maybe he just didn't want Trump to steal his thunder.
[00:05:10]  But of course, Obama is now walking this back.
[00:05:12]  So we'll talk about that.
[00:05:13]  Plus, we have a bunch of other stories.
[00:05:15]  AOC is getting roasted because she said Venezuela is below the equator, which it isn't.
[00:05:20]  And I wonder if this whole thing that she was doing was an attempt to kind of like show that she had foreign policy chops because she wants to run for president.
[00:05:28]  But she has only indeed shown that she has no idea what she's talking about.
[00:05:32]  So we're going to get into all of that and more, my friends.
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[00:07:03]  Well, first we have to talk about how I'm brutally beanie mogging you right now.
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[00:07:59]  You don't want to talk about how you've just been brutally beanie mogged?
[00:08:03]  Beanie mogged.
[00:08:04]  Beanie mogged.
[00:08:05]  Yes, you know what they don't.
[00:08:06]  See, this is what pisses me off, Tim.
[00:08:07]  You act like you don't know what that means.
[00:08:09]  You're gesture maxing, and I'm not okay with it, okay?
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[00:08:37]  But my point is, look at the bizarre.
[00:08:39]  Look at the patriotism mind shows.
[00:08:42]  What are you?
[00:08:43]  You're hosting a new show or something?
[00:08:44]  After hours with Alex Deiner and Real America's Voice.
[00:08:47]  It's incredible.
[00:08:47]  So they got a great DC studio.
[00:08:49]  I filmed my show there.
[00:08:50]  It airs tonight, right after this show.
[00:08:52]  You're based in DC now?
[00:08:53]  No, but I was just using their studio because I came on your show.
[00:08:56]  Actually, they built me a studio in Dallas.
[00:08:57]  They do it all remote.
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[00:09:06]  It's good.
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[00:09:08]  Always glad to have a serious intellect to come on the show.
[00:09:11]  We're always looking forward to your keen insights and serious.
[00:09:14]  How they're eating babies and how they're eating children.
[00:09:16]  And you laughed at me.
[00:09:16]  You laughed at my jerky sleuth thing that I found through Asmund Gold, who has millions of views.
[00:09:22]  But it doesn't matter.
[00:09:23]  They are literally eating the flesh of humans.
[00:09:25]  And I don't think it's a joke.
[00:09:27]  I was right about Pizzagate.
[00:09:29]  I mean, they're all doing child sex trafficking.
[00:09:31]  You know, they called us crazy in 2016.
[00:09:32]  I called into Howard Stern's show.
[00:09:34]  He's like, oh, you're wrong.
[00:09:35]  You're wrong.
[00:09:36]  Boom.
[00:09:36]  I was right.
[00:09:37]  Did he apologize to you for?
[00:09:38]  Oh, he should.
[00:09:39]  He owes me an apology.
[00:09:40]  You can look that clip up anywhere.
[00:09:41]  He quit if he's still around.
[00:09:42]  He's still around.
[00:09:43]  But he only does.
[00:09:44]  Two days a week.
[00:09:45]  And he's supposed to be a little bit more.
[00:09:46]  Well, anyway.
[00:09:47]  He's 25, isn't he?
[00:09:48]  Elotte is here.
[00:09:49]  Good evening, everybody.
[00:09:50]  I am Elad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
[00:09:53]  Alex, good luck in your new ventures.
[00:09:55]  What was the name of the new media company?
[00:09:57]  Real America's Voice.
[00:09:58]  They're not that new.
[00:09:58]  Charlie has a show there.
[00:09:59]  Okay, Real America News.
[00:10:00]  I mean, people sometimes think of One America News Network because they both have America in it.
[00:10:04]  But no, they've been out for a while.
[00:10:06]  They're crushing it.
[00:10:07]  Isn't Brian Glenn over there too?
[00:10:08]  Brian's over there.
[00:10:09]  Yeah, Brian Glenn's.
[00:10:10]  It's a morning show.
[00:10:11]  Brian's a man.
[00:10:12]  He's wonderful.
[00:10:13]  Anyway, Phil.
[00:10:13]  Hello, everybody.
[00:10:14]  My name is Phil Labonte.
[00:10:15]  I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains on Anti-Communist and Counterrevolutionary.
[00:10:19]  We can go ahead and talk about Alex Stein's too quickly.
[00:10:21]  Well, actually, we've got Carter pressing the buttons.
[00:10:23]  Oh, yeah.
[00:10:23]  Look at Carter.
[00:10:24]  What's up, everyone?
[00:10:26]  Carter Banks here, and I'm hanging out and producing the show.
[00:10:29]  Excited to be here.
[00:10:31]  All right, let's talk about news because, hey, man, it's about time.

=== Call Into Question (11:08) ===

[00:10:35]  From CNBC, Hyatt Chairman Pritzker leaves board over Epstein ties.
[00:10:40]  Big news from CNBC.
[00:10:42]  They said Pritzker will leave his post as the hotel chain's executive chairman, a role he's held for more than two decades.
[00:10:47]  Immediately, he said in a statement released by the Pritzker organization, the 75-year-old billionaire Hyatt Ayer said he would not seek re-election to the board at the annual stockholder meeting.
[00:10:56]  My job and responsibility is to provide good stewardship.
[00:10:59]  That is something to me.
[00:11:00]  Good stewardship includes ensuring a proper transition at Hyatt.
[00:11:04]  Pritzker said he has regret over his connection to Epstein and his accomplice, Gheelane Maxwell.
[00:11:10]  So we know about what Epstein did, like, you know, the claims.
[00:11:14]  We also know that the media covered it all up, lied about it, suppressed the story, pretended like it wasn't happening, and called us all crazy for suggesting that it was true.
[00:11:21]  Recently released files show Pritzker and Epstein exchanged friendly emails after the disgraced financier's plea deal.
[00:11:27]  Being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing.
[00:11:31]  Thanks for pointing that out, CNBC.
[00:11:34]  Why did you need to say that?
[00:11:35]  See, here's the truth.
[00:11:37]  These powerful individuals were flying around on a plane with underage girls who were supposedly masseuses, but they were actually doing other things.
[00:11:45]  And we've got numerous victims who, and it's funny because there are a lot of Trump supporters that have come out being like, this woman claimed that she never did anything untoward, but now she's claiming she did.
[00:11:55]  And I'm like, yes, is it possible that in 2015, these women didn't want to admit that they were child prostitutes?
[00:12:00]  And now that Epstein's been uncovered and exposed, they're saying, actually, those claims are all true, and I'm now going to admit it.
[00:12:06]  So I think it's fair to say, certainly.
[00:12:09]  Call into question some of the statements.
[00:12:11]  Maybe there's some women trying to cash in on being a victim or whatever.
[00:12:14]  But just read the emails.
[00:12:16]  And look at the conviction.
[00:12:17]  He took a sweetheart plea deal because Epstein was bringing on underage girls to his plane and to his island as masseuses.
[00:12:24]  And they were doing, they were hookers.
[00:12:27]  Basically, they were child prostitutes being run in.
[00:12:29]  So I love how every step of the way, the media has tried to protect these individuals.
[00:12:34]  And I'm not going to cut Trump any slack because Trump was like, oh, it's a hoax.
[00:12:37]  It's a hoax.
[00:12:38]  Now we're reading these emails and we're going like, oh my.
[00:12:42]  There's videos.
[00:12:42]  Alex, did you notice?
[00:12:43]  There are videos of children bathing that Epstein in the Epstein files.
[00:12:47]  And they said, they were like, well, you know, it's uncorroborated.
[00:12:51]  Yeah, it's really weird that Epstein had children come to his island.
[00:12:54]  And there's videos of underage kids.
[00:12:56]  They censored the videos, mind you.
[00:12:57]  But there is a lot of, let me just, I would describe it as massive piles upon piles of circumstantial evidence, which makes me wonder what hard evidence they're retracting.
[00:13:10]  There was one email that I showed on Twitter where Epstein emailed somebody.
[00:13:14]  We don't know who because they redacted it and he simply said the word pizza.
[00:13:18]  And is it, is that, is that, I'm sorry, I just have questions about why they redacted the email of a person simply because he said pizza to him.
[00:13:28]  Now, listen, I'm not going to sit here and say I know exactly the intent of that email.
[00:13:33]  I don't.
[00:13:33]  But when you redact the recipient's email, then people start saying, why?
[00:13:40]  What about that?
[00:13:41]  Now, I will stress, a lot of the Pizzagate stuff was, I believe, fake news.
[00:13:48]  People were making, I say fake news in the playful sense, like not like it was literally fake stories, but people were adding things to it that weren't true or were conjecture.
[00:13:56]  But what is true is that CP is child abuse material and it's referred to as cheese pizza.
[00:14:03]  So when you have someone like Epstein who is literally convicted of stuff like this, emailing people these terms, you kind of say, I think we know what the intention was in the redaction.
[00:14:14]  But there's plenty more emails.
[00:14:15]  I know that, you know, Alex, you've seen a bunch of it.
[00:14:19]  Well, you know, you're kind of teasing me a little bit because we are talking about jerky.
[00:14:22]  And just you look at the way that they use these emails.
[00:14:25]  They're not talking like they're ordering pizza.
[00:14:27]  Like they're speaking in clearly coded language.
[00:14:30]  So, I mean, it just looks like it's obvious that they're doing stuff to kids.
[00:14:33]  We knew this.
[00:14:34]  And then when you talk about the child porn, that's the one thing I think Pam Bonnie's told the truth about, saying that there was a ton of child porn.
[00:14:39]  And that's why it took so long for them to unredact them so we could see them.
[00:14:43]  So, yes, if you think that, you know, it's just bad that they were raping kids.
[00:14:47]  I don't know if I should say that word.
[00:14:48]  Sorry.
[00:14:50]  They were doing a lot worse with CP and trading that like a currency.
[00:14:53]  It's disgusting, but we all know it's true.
[00:14:56]  Let's add an allegedly to that.
[00:14:57]  One of my issues with everything he's doing.
[00:15:01]  You don't think they're trading child CP?
[00:15:04]  You don't think they're trading CP?
[00:15:05]  Who's they?
[00:15:06]  Like Epstein to.
[00:15:08]  Hold on.
[00:15:08]  Pam Bondi said they were.
[00:15:10]  Yeah, sure.
[00:15:11]  He said that they had CP.
[00:15:12]  I had tons of it.
[00:15:13]  That's why they weren't going to release the files.
[00:15:15]  That's exactly what she said.
[00:15:16]  I think when it comes to the Epstein files, people are running fast and loose with the truth.
[00:15:20]  And that's why people like CNBC feel the need to say that being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing.
[00:15:28]  Because if you were, if you were even referenced in the files, it's a guilt by association.
[00:15:33]  And it feels as though there is a witch hunt.
[00:15:36]  Some would argue more deservedly so.
[00:15:38]  Obviously, everybody who is accused or involved in any child abuse should be charged and indicted and charged to the fullest extent of the law.
[00:15:46]  But I feel like the threshold for that evidence has become lower and lower.
[00:15:51]  Oh, and let me get to add to that.
[00:15:54]  I play devil's advocate all the time.
[00:15:55]  I'm just surprised that the topic that you would like to play devil's advocate on.
[00:15:59]  Bro, it's listening.
[00:16:00]  Very weird.
[00:16:01]  No, I want to be.
[00:16:02]  But my whole thing with Trump was to stop making me defend Trump because they kept lying about him.
[00:16:08]  I have no problem praising Trump.
[00:16:11]  I voted for the guy twice.
[00:16:12]  I want him to succeed.
[00:16:14]  But come on.
[00:16:15]  Trump screwed up.
[00:16:16]  The DOJ screwed this up.
[00:16:18]  The FBI screwed this up.
[00:16:19]  They've done a miserable job on the release of the Epstein files.
[00:16:22]  I will give them credit for releasing it now, but Pam Bondi at the hearing being like, the Dow is at 50,000.
[00:16:28]  I was nice.
[00:16:29]  A bunch of other people, let me tell you, I know I can get a million views if I pound my fist on the hippo and scream, Pam Bondi, you did bad.
[00:16:37]  But I'm trying to be nice because they are still releasing files.
[00:16:40]  But when she comes out and she's like, the Dow is at 50,000, I was like, that's really great.
[00:16:45]  Thank you.
[00:16:45]  And now on to the other thing we care about, which two things we can talk about, you know, we can care about two different things.
[00:16:52]  Well, you do need to mention it dropped below 50,000 literally the next day.
[00:16:56]  Did you see that?
[00:16:56]  Yeah, but the point is, she's going like, we should be talking about the economy.
[00:17:00]  It's my response to that.
[00:17:01]  This is the problem.
[00:17:02]  I'm going to criticize Thomas Massey a little bit too because I'm a big fan of the guy.
[00:17:05]  I consider he's my favorite member of Congress, but he's yelling at her saying we caught you red-handed.
[00:17:10]  And I'm just like, listen, there was ample opportunity to respond to Pam Bondi and just be like, thank you, Secretary Bondi, which is Secretary, right?
[00:17:20]  AG.
[00:17:20]  AG, I'm sorry, Attorney General Bondi.
[00:17:23]  I appreciate that.
[00:17:24]  It is fantastic work.
[00:17:25]  Thank you.
[00:17:26]  It is true.
[00:17:26]  The economy right now has some great indicators.
[00:17:29]  Now, anyway, we were talking about something specific because the people can be happy about the economy and upset about the Epstein trafficking stuff, too.
[00:17:37]  I mean, I would hope that the DOJ has started at least investigations on these people, like the people that are accused.
[00:17:45]  Because if they have the files that are non-redacted, right?
[00:17:48]  They should be building cases to go and prosecute.
[00:17:52]  You know, that's kind of like where we're at now.
[00:17:54]  It's like there's all kinds of talk about who is and isn't in the file, but it files and stuff.
[00:17:58]  But it's like, look, the DOJ's job is to prosecute people for wrongdoing.
[00:18:03]  So if they have the names, they should be building cases and they should be looking to arrest people.
[00:18:08]  Yeah, but it's really not that hard.
[00:18:09]  I mean, you could look at Les Wexner, there's the guy that gave him the residence in New York.
[00:18:12]  Like, if they don't charge him, which I know now they're saying they opened up an investigation, I don't think anybody's going to go to jail because he was basically his right-hand man, or Jeffrey was his right-hand man, if you want to use that analogy.
[00:18:22]  And I think that he would have blood on his hand.
[00:18:25]  So if he does not go down, if we don't perp walk at least Les Wexner, and this is all alleged, I don't want to get sued by him, but it looks like his connection to Epstein is indisputable.
[00:18:35]  I do think there's a lot of insanity.
[00:18:38]  You know, there are people who are making the craziest claims imaginable based on the lightest of conjecture.
[00:18:44]  A good example of what I'm trying to say is the easiest example that I brought several times.
[00:18:48]  One of the Epstein files comes from a phone tip to the FBI, a woman claiming she was a victim of sex trafficking, and she was 13 when she was trafficking.
[00:18:57]  She was on the island when Tony Hawk got married.
[00:18:59]  The only issue is Tony Hawk didn't get married on the island.
[00:19:01]  It seems to be a fabricated story of the FBI.
[00:19:03]  Did you not get to the island at all?
[00:19:04]  No.
[00:19:05]  Like Tony Hawk is so far removed from Epstein, it's ludicrous.
[00:19:09]  So what happened is there's an action sports photographer whose name is Mark Epstein, completely unrelated to Jeffrey.
[00:19:15]  Jeffrey has a brother named Mark Epstein.
[00:19:17]  And so when Tony Hawk got married in Fiji, Mark Epstein, the action sports photographer, was taking photos of it.
[00:19:23]  This is Getty images.
[00:19:24]  And apparently this was on MTV at the time.
[00:19:26]  Someone presumably saw this, assumed Mark Epstein, who took the photos, was related to Jeffrey, and then thought they could lie and claim Tony Hawk was there and the FBI would buy it.
[00:19:37]  Something like that.
[00:19:38]  And so now there are these articles flying around saying Tony Hawk caught with, you know, underage traffic evicted.
[00:19:44]  It's completely fake.
[00:19:45]  And that I can respect when there were concerns about releasing all the files because there would be this kind of blowback on innocent people completely unrelated.
[00:19:53]  Amy Schumer is in the files.
[00:19:55]  So in the list of names that the DOJ dropped, Amy Schumer is one of them.
[00:20:01]  Amy Schumer named in the Epstein files.
[00:20:02]  She probably would eat a kid, but I mean, yeah, but that's more of her eating, more of her eating disorders.
[00:20:09]  She's just hungry.
[00:20:11]  I do think it's a little bit of a lie.
[00:20:12]  She did always empic, though, didn't she?
[00:20:13]  She's the president with Howard Luttnick, as far as he goes, Secretary of Commerce, I believe, because he denied, he said that he cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:20:22]  But then after he alleged to have cut ties, he visited Epstein Island again, allegedly with his family.
[00:20:27]  And this is after 2008 when he was convicted of a few different, I believe he was given a sweetheart deal in Florida, but it was well known after 2008, the 2008 conviction that he was involved in these sort of crimes against children.
[00:20:40]  He had 700 employees die in 9-11 and he happened to not be at work that day.
[00:20:45]  What do you mean?
[00:20:45]  Like, was he supposed to be?
[00:20:46]  He might have had prior knowledge.
[00:20:48]  You know, was he supposed to be?
[00:20:50]  Oh, yeah.
[00:20:51]  He had a company with 700 employees.
[00:20:52]  Yes, but that doesn't mean he's a fan of the family.
[00:20:52]  He was supposed to go every day, just like Larry Silverstone.
[00:20:55]  He showed up every day.
[00:20:56]  Could you imagine if it was like a Sunday here?
[00:20:58]  I'm like, I'm not here.
[00:20:58]  And then the building burned out.
[00:20:59]  Like, how strange Tim wasn't at work that day.
[00:21:01]  I'm like, why not?
[00:21:02]  I'm just asking questions.
[00:21:03]  I don't know.
[00:21:04]  Did he get a text message from somebody saying these towers are going to go down?
[00:21:07]  I don't know.
[00:21:07]  But I do know that Condoleezza Rice and George Bush were both briefed that there's a guy in Afghanistan and Osama, Osama bin Laden that wanted to fly planes into buildings.
[00:21:14]  But maybe he got that brief.
[00:21:15]  I don't know, but he was not at work that day.
[00:21:17]  Let's jump to this story to appease our friend Alex Stein.
[00:21:20]  This is from Times Now News, Epstein Jerky, what it means and how it fueled cannibalism and ritualistic sacrifice claims.
[00:21:27]  The U.S. Department of Justice released more than 3 million documents recently in which a 2019 interview between FBI officials and an anonymous man speaks about ritualistic sacrifice aboard Epstein's yacht in 2000.
[00:21:38]  They say when the DOJ released more than 3 million records, blah, blah, blah, the trove quickly became fodder.

=== Why They Stopped Eating (15:45) ===

[00:21:43]  We get it.
[00:21:44]  The one about ritualistic sacrificed.
[00:21:45]  The most graphic allegations appear in summaries of a reported 2019 interview.
[00:21:49]  In one version of the interview, an agent concluded the claims did not warrant further investigative resources.
[00:21:54]  The DOJ files also note the man did not allege cannibalism during the interview, though he claimed the individuals consumed human feces.
[00:22:02]  The FBI declined to comment when asked why the allegations were not pursued.
[00:22:06]  Despite that, the words cannibal and cannibalism appear dozens of times elsewhere in the document collection.
[00:22:11]  A search at the Epstein Library shows 52 mentions of cannibal and six of cannibalism, according to Snopes.
[00:22:17]  None of those references, however, connect Epstein's to cannibalistic acts.
[00:22:20]  Some appear in unrelated contexts, media summaries, academic syllabus.
[00:22:23]  We don't need to include those.
[00:22:24]  But there was a conversation about eating jerky, and Alex believes that is a reference to people.
[00:22:30]  I know it is.
[00:22:31]  Why?
[00:22:31]  Because they cannot say this.
[00:22:33]  That's why they use coded language.
[00:22:35]  Obviously, they can't just be in the email.
[00:22:37]  What did they say?
[00:22:38]  That 13-year-old girl tasted so good.
[00:22:40]  Yum, they're not going to say that.
[00:22:41]  But the way that they talked about jerky in these emails, there's an email where it's like, oh, yeah, he's going to stop eating so much jerky and start eating regular food again.
[00:22:49]  You just got to go through the emails.
[00:22:50]  I mean, you can take it.
[00:22:51]  Do you think Ellen DeGeneres is a cannibal?
[00:22:53]  Probably, yes.
[00:22:54]  Actually, pull up.
[00:22:55]  Ellen DeGeneres.
[00:22:55]  Do you think they found a code word for human meat?
[00:22:57]  Let's wait here.
[00:22:58]  What?
[00:23:04]  I hope you were feeling better.
[00:23:05]  Did we analyze the jerky?
[00:23:08]  Why didn't we get jerky this week?
[00:23:10]  I also added more to the jerky and ginger lemongrass.
[00:23:14]  Thank you so much.
[00:23:15]  Super cool.
[00:23:16]  Beef jerky.
[00:23:17]  Delicious.
[00:23:18]  Jojo is here and we'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey.
[00:23:21]  We'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey.
[00:23:24]  Why would jerky walk around?
[00:23:26]  Why would it do that?
[00:23:27]  Delicious lunch, beef, jerky.
[00:23:30]  Steve and I are very grateful, above all, for your friendship.
[00:23:33]  Some of these emails are so wholesome, aren't they?
[00:23:36]  It's too bad they eat kids.
[00:23:37]  A small insulated bag would be fine.
[00:23:40]  I don't remember checking it.
[00:23:41]  No need for crazy amounts of ice.
[00:23:43]  One should do.
[00:23:44]  There is one bag of beef jerky in the fridge.
[00:23:48]  Please get it.
[00:23:48]  Also, Blank has more at her place.
[00:23:50]  Please get it from her as well.
[00:23:52]  I suppose it needs to be in a cold, insulated bag.
[00:23:55]  Just wanted to touch base about jerky.
[00:23:57]  JE said he was going to start eating regular food again, so he might be eating less jerky.
[00:24:01]  He said he has six bags of it in a downstairs freezer.
[00:24:03]  Why would you freeze jerky?
[00:24:05]  Steve needs a six to eight ounce portion of jerky.
[00:24:09]  I gave you all the jerky we had, and it lasted only half the amount of time it was meant to.
[00:24:14]  I felt like it was more important for you to have the jerky to it sounds like they're eating people, bro.
[00:24:18]  Yes!
[00:24:19]  Yes!
[00:24:20]  Listen to the last one.
[00:24:21]  He's like, oh, I thought it'd be more important for you to have the jerky than me.
[00:24:24]  If it's just normal jerky, you go to CVS.
[00:24:27]  You can buy unlimited Jack Lynx beef jerky.
[00:24:29]  So why is it more important for that person to have it unless it's some sort of commodity?
[00:24:34]  And not only that, here's the email.
[00:24:36]  They redacted the to and from.
[00:24:37]  Why did they redact it?
[00:24:38]  JE said he was going to start eating regular food again, so he might be eating less jerky.
[00:24:42]  Why is it illegal to send an email about jerky, Tim?
[00:24:44]  Answer that question.
[00:24:44]  Is it a crime to say if I send you an email about jerky, would they redact that?
[00:24:48]  No, but it's because the FBI knows they're talking about children, and so they're not going to be like, oh, hold on, hold on.
[00:24:54]  If this is your smoking gun, it's pathetic.
[00:24:56]  We don't know.
[00:24:56]  You don't need a smoking gun because there's people like Jimmy Seville, and that I know that they do.
[00:25:00]  It's called SRA, Satanic Ritualistic Abuse.
[00:25:02]  Here, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[00:25:04]  Here's another one.
[00:25:05]  We have no idea where it came from.
[00:25:06]  It was into Epstein.
[00:25:07]  Francis has time to come tomorrow to show me how to make it.
[00:25:10]  Jerky class anyone.
[00:25:11]  He will also bring you a taste of his new jerky recipe from the restaurant and sends a warm hello.
[00:25:16]  He's working at a restaurant called Cannibal and Cooks.
[00:25:18]  Wait for it.
[00:25:19]  Beef, jerky, and steak.
[00:25:21]  He has time at 3 p.m. tomorrow if it's okay with you.
[00:25:24]  Tim, these sounds like they could be your emails about beef jerky.
[00:25:27]  They do not.
[00:25:28]  I don't like that.
[00:25:30]  They don't sound like his emails, dude.
[00:25:31]  Look, there's enough there to make people be like, what's going on here?
[00:25:35]  To be honest.
[00:25:36]  Sure, it's an odd email exchange, but I don't know if this is indicative of child sacrifice.
[00:25:41]  Maybe I'm the moron.
[00:25:42]  Okay, think about how prevalent abortion is.
[00:25:44]  We know that Planned Parenthood has been caught.
[00:25:46]  There's been people from Planned Parenthood caught with baby parts.
[00:25:49]  So there is, whether you want to believe it or not, there is a black market for dead baby parts, babies, dead bodies.
[00:25:56]  And, you know, China, I'm not saying they're into it, but they also supposedly, you know, get hostages and they'll take a liver.
[00:26:02]  Like, you can buy a heart in China.
[00:26:04]  You can't do that here in America.
[00:26:05]  There was an FBI interview of one of the purported victims.
[00:26:09]  They were saying things like, while on his yacht, he witnessed African Americans, Americans, and males having sex with white-blown females, all of whom were bleeding during the intercourse.
[00:26:17]  He was a victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a scimitar but left no scarring.
[00:26:22]  On the yacht, he witnessed babies being dismembered, their intestine removed, and individuals eating the feces from these intestines.
[00:26:28]  It was also raped by George Bush.
[00:26:30]  One these are all, I mean, these are just allegations from a quick.
[00:26:33]  If they admit that they would eat human feces, you don't think they would eat human meat?
[00:26:37]  These are alleged from an interview.
[00:26:41]  Our redacted name says, Rachel, the people on the island are telling me Jeffrey didn't like the last batch of jerky that Steve sent to him.
[00:26:46]  Not sure if it's too late to stop the shipment.
[00:26:49]  Why would you need to stop the shipment if it's beef jerky that you can get at the grocery store?
[00:26:54]  Because it's special jerky.
[00:26:55]  Tim knows you could get special jerky.
[00:26:57]  I've had Tim's special jerky.
[00:26:59]  No, you have.
[00:27:00]  Shut up, a lot.
[00:27:01]  You've not had anything.
[00:27:02]  I think the issue.
[00:27:03]  Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[00:27:05]  I think we have kangaroo jerky in there.
[00:27:07]  And then Tim complains, no, this jerky sucks.
[00:27:09]  Stop that shipment.
[00:27:10]  Stop that shipment.
[00:27:11]  We don't want more of that jerk.
[00:27:11]  No, hold on.
[00:27:13]  The exotic jerky that I have is from Western Maryland when I went to a, there's like this lake, and there was a jerky store that sold a whole bunch of different kinds of jerky.
[00:27:23]  Not one of which was human children, in fact, but they did have a good variety.
[00:27:26]  Okay, just because they're eating children doesn't mean that jerky doesn't also exist.
[00:27:30]  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[00:27:31]  No, what if they're not eating children, though?
[00:27:34]  It sounds like they're eating something untoward.
[00:27:36]  It may be people.
[00:27:37]  I don't know.
[00:27:37]  But the issue that I take is, I think it's fair to say this is weird.
[00:27:42]  They're doing something.
[00:27:43]  But when you jump the gun and say they're eating children, it makes people think you're nuts.
[00:27:46]  What if I told you that everybody in this room has eaten human beings before?
[00:27:50]  You're going to say that's impossible, but in meat processing plants, they've went and tested the meat, and there has been issues where there's human DNA in it.
[00:27:56]  Because they cut their hand or something and got in the meat.
[00:27:59]  Oh, yeah, but or because like a guy named Juan who wants to clean the vat trips and falls.
[00:28:03]  Exactly.
[00:28:04]  Sweating.
[00:28:04]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:28:05]  So in a way, we've all eaten human.
[00:28:06]  In a way.
[00:28:08]  If you think long and hard.
[00:28:09]  Do you ever hear the story about the guy?
[00:28:10]  There's like a tuna vat and he went inside to clean it out.
[00:28:13]  No, and the other guy pressed the button and closed it and cooked him alive.
[00:28:16]  And he was in there.
[00:28:16]  Oh, intentionally.
[00:28:17]  He was just murdered.
[00:28:18]  No, it was accidental.
[00:28:18]  It was an accident.
[00:28:19]  Yeah, he got cooked.
[00:28:20]  Yeah.
[00:28:20]  Cooked alive.
[00:28:22]  The big, so, so, again, like, what if, what if they're like, it is weird when they say they're going to walk the jerky because you can't.
[00:28:29]  You know what I mean?
[00:28:30]  I think they meant they walked the bag of jerky.
[00:28:32]  What does it mean that he's going to start eating?
[00:28:34]  Right, right.
[00:28:34]  I'm going to walk the jerky over like I care.
[00:28:36]  I think Tim, I'll bring you.
[00:28:37]  I'll walk the jerky over to you.
[00:28:38]  Oh, yeah.
[00:28:39]  He just got an order for you.
[00:28:40]  Yeah, I'll walk it over.
[00:28:41]  Walk it over to Tim.
[00:28:42]  Yeah.
[00:28:42]  And then Tim doesn't want more of the shipment of jerky because he didn't like the jerky.
[00:28:46]  Yeah, because if they put celery salt or like fennel on it, get it out of here with that.
[00:28:50]  And what about the weird email where it says, oh, he's going to start eating regular food?
[00:28:54]  As if in the email, he's like, oh, he's going to start eating less jerky and more regular.
[00:28:57]  Well, I will give some pushback because I had a period where I literally ate nothing but chicken wings for like six months.
[00:29:03]  That was when you were doing keto.
[00:29:04]  It's a little different.
[00:29:05]  No, I mean, I was literally like, I could have eaten a lot of other things, but I just really wanted to eat chicken wings.
[00:29:11]  They're delicious.
[00:29:12]  Well, like, the big, I mean, go ahead, Phil.
[00:29:14]  Well, it's just that, like, I just want to reiterate it.
[00:29:17]  Like, at this point, there's enough information here where they need to start finding these people that are making the allegations, interviewing them, and looking to see if they can press charges.
[00:29:26]  Wait, wait, hold on.
[00:29:26]  Here's an important one for you, Lad.
[00:29:28]  Beef jerky is drying another hour or so till it's finished.
[00:29:32]  What is the best way to get it to you?
[00:29:33]  One of the children that we cut up to make the jerky.
[00:29:37]  Maybe he was having that South African, the bull tongue where you need to leave it out to cure and dry.
[00:29:44]  I'm just imagining how funny it would be if on Epstein's Island, there's like a gigantic jerking station and they've got a whole bunch of exotic, like legitimate beef jerkies.
[00:29:52]  And then it's just like Alex is screaming, it's children.
[00:29:54]  And the people, the people from Epstein Island are like, you have no idea the recipe.
[00:29:57]  Okay, what about this?
[00:29:58]  Yeah, I could make that.
[00:29:59]  He ordered 200 gallons of sulfuric acid.
[00:30:01]  You don't think that's oh, bro, that was for dissolving people.
[00:30:04]  What do you think that's for?
[00:30:05]  One of the FDI files talked about there were two dead women buried on this ranch because apparently what happened was, and this is, come on, look, when you go to people and you say jerky sounds like they're eating people, they'd be like, man, I don't know.
[00:30:18]  That sounds crazy.
[00:30:19]  But what do we know for a fact?
[00:30:21]  Epstein was convicted for hiring underage girls as masseuses, but having them do sexual things.
[00:30:28]  One of the tips was that there were two women that were hired for sexual favors, and when they were doing them, Epstein and whoever else was strangling them at the same time, and they died.
[00:30:38]  They panicked and then buried the women on some ranch property.
[00:30:42]  That is entirely believable based on what we do know about Epstein.
[00:30:46]  Don't get me wrong.
[00:30:46]  You can believe the stuff about the jerky and all these other crazy things, but I'm saying, like, if you go to someone and say, Epstein was convicted for hiring underage prostitutes, and in one of the files, they allege two of them died during rough sex, and then Epstein and his accomplices buried the bodies.
[00:31:02]  So when you hear about them buying, what was it, 200 gallons of sulfuric acid?
[00:31:06]  And what did they bring to the island?
[00:31:08]  I think he ordered it to the island, if I remember correctly.
[00:31:11]  And you have to wonder why someone needs a private island in the first place.
[00:31:14]  And it's because ain't nobody coming to investigate on your private island.
[00:31:18]  And here's the other thing: the important thing to understand: when you bring a young woman to your island, she's not going to say no because of the implication.
[00:31:27]  Well, and then, you know, they say, and I don't want to make that was a reference, anybody who got it.
[00:31:31]  If you don't get the reference, then you know.
[00:31:33]  No, I didn't.
[00:31:34]  Well, everyone in the chat is going to understand the reference.
[00:31:36]  Well, what I'm saying is...
[00:31:37]  The implication.
[00:31:39]  Is...
[00:31:39]  I don't know if something I don't get at.
[00:31:41]  The implication.
[00:31:44]  You bring a woman onto the middle of the ocean and you ask something of her and she has to say yes because of the implication.
[00:31:50]  Because she's out in the middle of nowhere.
[00:31:51]  The implication is that you're going to kill her.
[00:31:53]  Oh, okay.
[00:31:53]  Well, I probably would.
[00:31:56]  You know, and I'm just saying this.
[00:31:58]  Now they're saying you got to look into Richard Branson because he has an island, Decker Island, in E-K-K-E-R.
[00:32:03]  I don't want to get canceled for that.
[00:32:06]  And I'm not saying he's eating kids out there, but it's called Virgin Island.
[00:32:09]  And then a bunch of celebrities go out there.
[00:32:10]  Virgin Island?
[00:32:11]  You know, Virgin, he owns Virgin.
[00:32:13]  Whatever.
[00:32:14]  So what are you saying?
[00:32:15]  They're not eating a bunch of kids out there.
[00:32:16]  You're not saying that.
[00:32:17]  But what are you saying?
[00:32:19]  I'm not saying that they're not eating kids.
[00:32:21]  Hold on.
[00:32:21]  I want to give a shout out.
[00:32:22]  I want to give like a half shout out, half marks to Virgin Airlines or whatever.
[00:32:28]  Was it Virgin Atlantic or something?
[00:32:29]  Because I flew on them one time.
[00:32:31]  And you know how they do the safety briefing?
[00:32:35]  In the safety brief for Atlantic, they literally went, if you don't know how to put on your seatbelt, something is wrong with you.
[00:32:41]  Moving on.
[00:32:42]  And I started laughing and I was like, that's great.
[00:32:44]  And then I guess they changed it later because the insurance company or something was like, legit, you have to tell them to do this.
[00:32:50]  Because they were probably people like who didn't know how to put on a seatbelt.
[00:32:54]  But shout out to Atlantic for assuming general intelligence and common sense, I guess.
[00:33:00]  Overstating it, I guess.
[00:33:01]  Overstating it indeed.
[00:33:03]  I think as far as a lot of this, the Epstein stuff goes, it's hard to blame people for wanting to add on all these additional maybe conspiracies onto the Epstein stuff because originally so many people over-promised and under-delivered on this story.
[00:33:16]  So many people in positions of power did this.
[00:33:19]  So for example, before Kash Patel was the director of the FBI, he used to come on shows like this and bitch about the Epstein stuff and say how there are all of these lists out there.
[00:33:28]  And then Jeffrey Epstein inside the jail is able to kill himself.
[00:33:31]  And then they've removed parts of the file watching over him.
[00:33:35]  Aside from the killing himself part, right?
[00:33:37]  Well, we don't even know that he killed himself.
[00:33:38]  No, no, no, no.
[00:33:39]  But hold on.
[00:33:40]  Aside from that, that was a misstep by the FBI.
[00:33:43]  But doesn't the release of the files kind of vindicate all the other stuff they were saying?
[00:33:48]  That all this nefarious thing.
[00:33:49]  Well, no, because there's a few other things.
[00:33:51]  Pam Bondi bringing in a bunch of influencers to make them look like a bunch of idiots like they were getting new stuff.
[00:33:56]  But no, because they over-promised on so much.
[00:33:59]  So because they said, oh, there's this gigantic pedophile ring, and then there's a list of people.
[00:34:03]  And it wasn't only Jeffrey Epstein who was procuring underage women with Ghelane Maxwell.
[00:34:07]  They were using this and filming famous and influential people to use this as blackmail.
[00:34:11]  Not a lot of that stuff came to fruition.
[00:34:13]  But because so much was over-promised and under-delivered, it's hard to blame people for thinking there's more there there.
[00:34:19]  I'm going to jump to this story.
[00:34:20]  Gee Lane Maxwell is an imposter.
[00:34:24]  You've heard the story that Epstein is alive, perhaps.
[00:34:27]  Maybe you believe it.
[00:34:28]  Maybe you don't.
[00:34:28]  But the latest story is Gee-Lane Maxwell recently gave a deposition.
[00:34:33]  We have this from the New York Post.
[00:34:34]  Watch Geelyn Maxwell's prison video to Congress when pressed on Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
[00:34:39]  And people decided to just, I don't know, take a look at her face.
[00:34:43]  And they found out that she apparently got a nose-fattening job.
[00:34:47]  Yeah.
[00:34:47]  Because when you look at a picture of Geelyn Maxwell in the public and you compare it to the image of the Geelane Maxwell in prison, you're like, okay, that's a completely different nose.
[00:34:56]  It's much wider and bigger.
[00:34:58]  And it's a little bit more snubbed than Geelan Maxwell's nose that we saw in the past.
[00:35:01]  So the question is, did she get a nose job to make her nose bigger?
[00:35:04]  I did not know that was a thing.
[00:35:05]  Maybe it is.
[00:35:06]  I mean, you can say that she gained weight, but that the nose doesn't really change.
[00:35:10]  I think that's a mask.
[00:35:10]  I think they just put another person to have one of those lace.
[00:35:13]  They have latex masks.
[00:35:15]  And that's why she pleaded the fifth.
[00:35:16]  Exactly.
[00:35:17]  Wait, wait, let's play the video.
[00:35:20]  Oh, wait.
[00:35:20]  Where's the audio at?
[00:35:22]  Everything's muted.
[00:35:24]  Respectfully declined to answer this question.
[00:35:27]  And any related questions.
[00:35:30]  My habeas petition is pending.
[00:35:32]  They put a really fat person next to her to make her look thinner because they never get to know her.
[00:35:36]  She does look fat.
[00:35:37]  I know, but look, they put in a morbidly obese woman next to her to make her look a little skinnier.
[00:35:40]  Wasn't her dad like an Israeli agent or something?
[00:35:43]  Robert Maxwell, yes, dude.
[00:35:44]  He was a media tycoon, owned a bunch of different businesses, and never officially said that he was part of Israeli's Basad.
[00:35:50]  But when he died, you can look it up.
[00:35:52]  They gave him an official, like he was a diplomat.
[00:35:54]  Like he was the highest level of their military.
[00:35:56]  You know, that was a sort of send-off they gave him for his music.
[00:35:59]  Oh, it's on his Wikipedia page.
[00:36:00]  Yeah.
[00:36:02]  So he never admitted that he worked for Israel, but they gave him an official.
[00:36:04]  It was Israeli.
[00:36:05]  Yes, but I'm saying he never admitted that he was an age.
[00:36:08]  Oh, wow.
[00:36:08]  They say he was buried on Jerusalem's Mount.
[00:36:10]  Okay, hold on.
[00:36:10]  Hold on.
[00:36:11]  Hold on.
[00:36:11]  Yeah, yes, dude.
[00:36:12]  Yes.
[00:36:12]  He got the most significant.
[00:36:15]  Robert Maxwell, media proprietor.
[00:36:17]  They say he was buried in Jerusalem's Mount of Olives in what has been described as a state funeral attended by much of the Israeli political establishment, including the president, prime minister, and six serving and former heads of intelligence.
[00:36:27]  His death triggered the collapse of his publishing empire, blah, blah, blah.
[00:36:31]  Well, there you go.
[00:36:31]  This is her dad.
[00:36:32]  Yes, so she's independently wealthy.
[00:36:34]  Oh, yeah, look at that.
[00:36:35]  Look at that.
[00:36:35]  He's got the Gillian.
[00:36:37]  Look at this picture of Gillian Maxwell.
[00:36:39]  Look at this picture of her.
[00:36:40]  She looks so different in all of these photos.
[00:36:42]  That is true.
[00:36:43]  Unrecognizable.
[00:36:44]  That's not the same person, bro.
[00:36:46]  Yeah, that picture on the left and the mug shot look the same, but then the other one.
[00:36:50]  All three of these are different people in my eyes.
[00:36:53]  I don't see any resemblance.
[00:36:54]  Well, this is probably going to get me canceled a little bit, but they've seen.
[00:36:57]  You think she looks nicer?
[00:36:58]  No, there's one where she's a lot younger.
[00:36:59]  It's like she's in her 20s, like where she's at these 80s parties.
[00:37:02]  And Ghelane actually used to be hot.
[00:37:03]  Oh, of course.
[00:37:04]  Same with Hillary Clinton.
[00:37:05]  I don't know if Hillary Clinton was ever hot.
[00:37:07]  Well, you think Ghelane Maxwell's hot, but not Hillary Clinton?
[00:37:09]  Ghelane actually was hot.
[00:37:10]  No, no, no.
[00:37:10]  Hillary Clinton was a lot hotter than Ghillain Maxwell than a younger point that you're never going to get.
[00:37:15]  Wait, Elod, Elod, Elod, chill, chill, chill.
[00:37:18]  What Alex is saying is he likes Jewish ladies.
[00:37:20]  Kind of.
[00:37:21]  She does look like a nice Jewish woman there.
[00:37:22]  A nice Jewish woman.
[00:37:23]  It's unfortunate that she's such like a pedophilic creep that procured young children for Jeffrey Epstein.

=== Unlikely Lookalikes (04:35) ===

[00:37:29]  Yeah, but she was.
[00:37:29]  But hold on, like.
[00:37:32]  I see this picture of this woman.
[00:37:33]  Could you imagine?
[00:37:34]  I'm just like, for everybody out there, some friend of yours that went to high school with, and then 20 years later, you find out that they like ate people.
[00:37:41]  Gross.
[00:37:42]  You're like, hey, remember, remember Janet from high school?
[00:37:44]  Yeah, she ate people.
[00:37:45]  Chrissy Teigen said on that show she wanted to eat human meat.
[00:37:48]  What show?
[00:37:48]  What are you going to do?
[00:37:49]  She was being interviewed.
[00:37:50]  Yes, you can look it up, type in Chrissy Teigen, human meat.
[00:37:53]  And she makes this joke, like, would you ever eat human?
[00:37:55]  And this other guy's like, no.
[00:37:56]  And she's like, wasn't there a CNN reporter who ate?
[00:37:59]  Yeah, Reza Aslan.
[00:37:59]  He's a cannibal.
[00:38:00]  Yeah.
[00:38:00]  So here's what happened.
[00:38:01]  Okay.
[00:38:02]  Hold on, hold on.
[00:38:02]  I got a question.
[00:38:05]  Reza Aslan, they were trying to be like vice on CNN.
[00:38:09]  So he went to this Hindu extremist sect, and they were cooking human meat.
[00:38:14]  And they handed him a piece of it.
[00:38:16]  And then he was apparently scared that he didn't eat it.
[00:38:18]  They were going to kill him or something.
[00:38:20]  So he ate the piece of human.
[00:38:22]  It was like a small piece of human brain.
[00:38:24]  And then I said he's a cannibal.
[00:38:26]  I say he's a cannibal.
[00:38:27]  And I had a friend.
[00:38:29]  I had a friend who told me he's not a cannibal.
[00:38:31]  A cannibal is someone who like regularly eats people.
[00:38:34]  And then I said, why does that not make him a cannibal?
[00:38:36]  Because he did it one time.
[00:38:37]  And I said, so if a dude like rapes a kid one time, he's not a pedophile.
[00:38:41]  Well, that's no.
[00:38:42]  Reza Aslan is a cannibal.
[00:38:44]  He ate people.
[00:38:46]  That's it.
[00:38:47]  You eat people one time.
[00:38:48]  You were a cannibal forever.
[00:38:50]  I don't know that Gilan Maxwell ate anybody.
[00:38:52]  Okay.
[00:38:53]  I don't know that Jeffrey Epstein ate anybody.
[00:38:56]  Those emails sound very, very weird, but I just want to point this out.
[00:38:59]  Guys, guys, I'm sorry if this makes me sound conspiratorial, but when I pull up this picture of Gheelane Maxwell from her mug shot and then the picture of the woman in that jail, that is a different person.
[00:39:10]  Yeah.
[00:39:11]  Dead is a different person.
[00:39:12]  And you saw Daily Mail put out the article that they used decoys when they got rid of his body from the federal prison.
[00:39:18]  They admitted that to trick the press for seemingly no reason, they stuffed a body bag full of boxes and cardboard and stuffed in pillows to make it look like a body was being removed.
[00:39:29]  Makes no sense.
[00:39:30]  It literally makes no sense.
[00:39:31]  Yeah, so I mean, could he still be alive?
[00:39:34]  I don't know.
[00:39:34]  It's so funny.
[00:39:35]  They did a Ditch magazine, not even trying to shout them out.
[00:39:38]  They looked into the FedEx account through the leaked emails, and there is a FedEx account linked to Jeffrey Epstein that has been getting packages, and you can chat GB.
[00:39:45]  Remember Imposter Hillary?
[00:39:47]  Imposter Hillary?
[00:39:48]  Yeah, you guys remember that?
[00:39:50]  No.
[00:39:50]  No, it's there was.
[00:39:52]  Let me see if I can try and find it.
[00:39:53]  There was a picture of Hillary Clinton allegedly with Bill Clinton.
[00:39:57]  It's probably going to be hard to find.
[00:39:59]  And everybody went nuts on X being like, yo, that's not Hillary Clinton.
[00:40:03]  Hillary Clinton body double claim.
[00:40:06]  See if we can find that photo.
[00:40:08]  It's hard to find.
[00:40:09]  It was, this was probably like 2019 or something.
[00:40:13]  I can't find it.
[00:40:15]  Maybe someone else will find it on X or something.
[00:40:17]  Tweeted Eddie a lot, I suppose.
[00:40:19]  Well, I think if you're.
[00:40:19]  Did you see her coming out against like our immigration policies saying like that it was detrimental to our society or something?
[00:40:26]  Disruptive and destabilizing.
[00:40:28]  So she's becoming pretty base.
[00:40:29]  So she might have been hot 30 years ago.
[00:40:30]  To be honest with you, she was against illegal immigration in 2008, and then she was for it, and now she's against it again.
[00:40:38]  Very John Kerry-esque, I think it was.
[00:40:40]  Yeah.
[00:40:40]  And I mean, her husband was a border guy.
[00:40:43]  Yep.
[00:40:43]  Maybe the Clintons got a bad rep. Well, I mean, I'm going too far.
[00:40:46]  Wait, wait, wait.
[00:40:46]  We forget Bill Clinton was all over the upseason, by the way.
[00:40:49]  It's all because of polling.
[00:40:50]  Their internal polling shows that the illegal immigration stuff is super unpopular.
[00:40:55]  Multiple Democrats have pivoted on this because of the fact that their internal polling is absolutely catastrophic about this stuff.
[00:41:02]  Americans do not want the border open and they don't want illegal aliens coming to the country and voting and stuff.
[00:41:08]  So there's actually a bunch of these.
[00:41:10]  Like this from 2016.
[00:41:12]  Hillary definitely has a body double, Tim.
[00:41:14]  Well, every world leader does.
[00:41:15]  Okay, here's the thing.
[00:41:16]  When we talk about like Joe Biden having a body double or Hillary Clinton having a body double, the media says you're a crazy conspiracy theorist.
[00:41:23]  Then they say Saddam was saying like five.
[00:41:25]  Vladimir Putin has like seven.
[00:41:27]  He had more than five.
[00:41:28]  But if you were a world leader, world leader, wouldn't you want a body double?
[00:41:31]  Yes.
[00:41:32]  Yes.
[00:41:33]  Because people are trying to kill you.
[00:41:34]  You know what I mean?
[00:41:36]  That's why every night after the show, Elon doesn't understand this, but I asked him if he wants to wear my shirt and wear the beanie just to make him feel better.
[00:41:42]  He's like, thank you, Tim.
[00:41:43]  And then he walks out in front of me.
[00:41:44]  I walk 20 feet behind him.
[00:41:45]  Well, this guy thinks anybody can confuse me for him.
[00:41:48]  Well, I did ask a lot if he was a skater, and he was like, no, I don't skate.
[00:41:51]  And he does kind of copy your swag a little bit.
[00:41:53]  I just want to, he's kind of swagger jacking you a little.
[00:41:56]  So you should probably.
[00:41:57]  Let's swag in my copy.
[00:41:58]  Time to be awesome.
[00:41:59]  I love this post from R slash Conspiracy.
[00:42:01]  This is not the same person.

=== Skiing Swag Jacking (14:46) ===

[00:42:04]  I'm sorry.
[00:42:05]  Dude, that is not the same person.
[00:42:06]  It's not the same person.
[00:42:07]  It's very different.
[00:42:08]  The jawline is very different.
[00:42:09]  The chin might be the same.
[00:42:11]  They're like, let's find some old fat lady and give her short black hair and call her Ghylaine.
[00:42:16]  And you're like, that'll work.
[00:42:17]  Look up the masks that are like, it's like super realism masks.
[00:42:20]  You can see it.
[00:42:21]  So they can do that.
[00:42:22]  They can make us look like Walter White.
[00:42:24]  They don't need, bro.
[00:42:25]  Yes, you're right, but they don't need to.
[00:42:26]  They can literally just take some random lady.
[00:42:28]  I don't know.
[00:42:29]  Like, hey, you want a million bucks?
[00:42:30]  It's like a skinny Chinese woman under there.
[00:42:32]  I can just tell by a fat suit.
[00:42:36]  This is not the same person.
[00:42:38]  It's not.
[00:42:40]  I don't get it because, like, you know what?
[00:42:45]  I take that back.
[00:42:45]  I get it.
[00:42:46]  They'll get away with it.
[00:42:47]  Of course they will.
[00:42:48]  They do stuff all the time.
[00:42:49]  And then what?
[00:42:50]  You know?
[00:42:51]  I mean, well, who's going to do anything about it?
[00:42:52]  Right.
[00:42:53]  You know, like us?
[00:42:54]  DOJ.
[00:42:55]  You know what I think?
[00:42:55]  Alex Stein's going to do something about it.
[00:42:57]  You know what I hope?
[00:42:58]  I hope it's just the alien thing is real.
[00:43:01]  You know what'd be really funny?
[00:43:01]  Like, you heard about Obama, right?
[00:43:03]  And then he was like, oh, aliens are real?
[00:43:04]  Yeah.
[00:43:05]  And I hope that what happened was he gets asked by Brian Tyler Cohen if aliens are red says yes.
[00:43:09]  And then I imagine he gets home and his phone rings and it's like one of the lizard people being like, you made a mistake.
[00:43:13]  And he's like, oh, I'm trying to press.
[00:43:14]  I'm sorry, sir.
[00:43:15]  Let me also tweet right now.
[00:43:18]  Well, you know why they want the fake alien invasion, right?
[00:43:21]  The fake alien.
[00:43:21]  Well, to unify all the countries under a globalist government.
[00:43:24]  That's exactly right.
[00:43:25]  You know, predictive programming, right?
[00:43:26]  Well, of course.
[00:43:27]  That's why they made the Watchmen movie.
[00:43:28]  There's a lot of movies like that.
[00:43:29]  You know, there's a lot of movies that predict 9-11, but it is what it is.
[00:43:32]  A lot of cartoons as well.
[00:43:34]  My favorite conspiracy theory is that the Titanic was sunk, was built, created on purpose to be sunk.
[00:43:40]  Oh, that's true.
[00:43:41]  That's true.
[00:43:41]  And they got the, well, no, it was an insurance scam.
[00:43:44]  It was to kill off all the billionaires to create a bunch of dead money so they could create the Federal Reserve.
[00:43:48]  Well, that was part of it, too.
[00:43:49]  But the other boat, it was like the Olympic actually was in an accident and started listing a little bit.
[00:43:53]  So they actually sunk the Olympic and put the Titanic, which was newly built.
[00:43:57]  There was a book.
[00:43:58]  Yeah, but they put the Olympic back.
[00:43:59]  Do you know about the book before the Titanic that was literally the story of the Titanic?
[00:44:03]  It was insurance for it.
[00:44:04]  And it was about the Titan.
[00:44:06]  So the theory is that somebody wrote a book in the 1800s.
[00:44:09]  A bunch of powerful people said, we need to create a central bank.
[00:44:12]  How do we do it?
[00:44:12]  Well, we need lots of capital to do it.
[00:44:14]  Okay.
[00:44:15]  You get a bunch of rich people in a boat.
[00:44:16]  They all die.
[00:44:16]  They have no heirs.
[00:44:18]  And now you have a bunch of dead money.
[00:44:19]  What to do with it?
[00:44:19]  You create a central bank, a central reserve.
[00:44:23]  How do you get rid of all these people?
[00:44:24]  Put them on a big boat and sink it.
[00:44:26]  Just like in that book.
[00:44:27]  And JP Morgan Chase did not get on the boat.
[00:44:30]  No, he was too busy.
[00:44:31]  He was too busy planning his next trip years later to Jekyll Island.
[00:44:36]  Well, all I'm saying is if you look into the conspiracy about Titanic, it's very weird.
[00:44:40]  It does look like it's, I mean, the boat that still lasted, I think it's called the Olympia or the Olympic, it was an identical boat except for like one hole.
[00:44:48]  I mean, it was from the naked eye, you couldn't even count that it had less than one hole, like one less room or whatever.
[00:44:54]  I want to point one other thing out, too, with this image.
[00:44:57]  Like Asmund Gold.
[00:45:00]  Someone didn't take the screenshot of Ghylaine Maxwell's faces.
[00:45:03]  They took a screenshot of Asmund Gold's YouTube channel with him looking surprised.
[00:45:08]  It's the ubiquity of Asmund Gold.
[00:45:10]  So, you know, congratulations.
[00:45:11]  He's great.
[00:45:12]  He's one of the, I mean, he's the top streamer on Twitch now.
[00:45:15]  He's no clavicular, but I don't know.
[00:45:17]  All right, everybody, here's the big news.
[00:45:19]  We've got this from Newsweek.
[00:45:21]  Trump is going to announce Aliens Are Real.
[00:45:24]  Newsweek, I love this.
[00:45:27]  You know, it's a slow news day.
[00:45:29]  Newsweek ran this as their second lead article.
[00:45:32]  Trump UFO announcement rumors persist online what we know.
[00:45:36]  And I'm going to stress this.
[00:45:37]  Instead of starting off the article with, there is no evidence to suggest this is true.
[00:45:41]  This is an online rumor with no basis.
[00:45:44]  They started by saying rumors that President Donald Trump is planning a major speech about unidentified flying objects has been growing online since claims published in early February suggested a major revelation may be imminent.
[00:45:53]  Mark Christopher Lee, a British writer, filmmaker, and ufologist, said in a Monday email in parts Newsweek, quote, a Washington insider I have known personally and conducted business with has repeatedly affirmed that President Trump has prepared a historic speech acknowledging extraterrestrial visitation and the existence of recovered non-human materials and craft.
[00:46:10]  Newsweek has not verified the claims.
[00:46:11]  So here's the trick.
[00:46:14]  The way they format their news articles makes you get all excited and hot and bothered.
[00:46:19]  And then you got to scroll way down to where it says like, well, you know, it's probably not true.
[00:46:25]  The unnamed source is saying this and this.
[00:46:27]  There's no evidence to this.
[00:46:29]  There's no evidence of a planned speech.
[00:46:30]  All at the bottom of the article.
[00:46:32]  But hold on.
[00:46:34]  This story has persisted for some time.
[00:46:36]  Take a look at this from TMZ.
[00:46:37]  Trump knows about extraterrestrial life forms, says the age of disclosure director, November 2025.
[00:46:44]  Obama, being jealous, says aliens are real.
[00:46:48]  You guys saw this.
[00:46:49]  Washington Post reporting, aliens are real, Obama says, as Washington shrugs.
[00:46:53]  The former president appeared to confirm decades-old conspiracy theories, but then he walked back his podcast comments.
[00:46:59]  Here's the funniest thing.
[00:47:01]  A former president of the United States went on a big podcast and said aliens are real, and no one cared.
[00:47:09]  No one cared.
[00:47:10]  This is the test, the trial balloon, to where now they actually could announce aliens are real.
[00:47:15]  And people will be like, yeah, we get it, whatever.
[00:47:17]  Yeah, I mean, well, this has been something that's been brewing for a couple of years now, right?
[00:47:22]  Like they, the, ever since they stopped calling them UFOs and started calling them UAPs, there were people that were saying, well, you know, there are UAPs and they, and the government's saying, but they are our UAPs and we.
[00:47:35]  Can we just get to the real story already?
[00:47:38]  Can we, the real conspiracy?
[00:47:40]  What?
[00:47:40]  You know why Obama said on that show that aliens are real, right?
[00:47:43]  He wanted to get good odds on the Calci betting markets?
[00:47:45]  No.
[00:47:46]  That was truth maxing?
[00:47:47]  No.
[00:47:48]  It's because the Cabal Deep State called him up before the show and said, this Epstein stuff is really, really bad.
[00:47:56]  Please say something to distract people from it.
[00:47:58]  I'm not fine that you're being sarcastic, but if you're not.
[00:48:00]  I'm not.
[00:48:01]  I'm not being sarcastic.
[00:48:02]  Good.
[00:48:04]  Like, they're going to roll out the fake alien invasion when they need it the most, and they probably do feel a lot of heat right now.
[00:48:09]  I mean, I would love to hear the justification.
[00:48:12]  Like, I would love to know the information that they're, you know, they say, hey, you know, we're going to do, we're going to announce that there are aliens.
[00:48:19]  I would love to hear how they got here because as of right now, all the science that we know says that you can't travel faster than the speed of light.
[00:48:26]  So I would love to see.
[00:48:28]  Well, if they did exist, they'd have to live like in the ocean.
[00:48:31]  That wouldn't make them aliens.
[00:48:32]  That's what they say.
[00:48:32]  Like they'll come out from the inner earth if like they're aliens, like they live in a different part of the earth than us.
[00:48:37]  Have you seen that movie with what's your who's that chick with the weird mouth?
[00:48:42]  Emma Stone.
[00:48:43]  Okay.
[00:48:44]  Weird mouth.
[00:48:45]  Yeah.
[00:48:46]  She like talks like this.
[00:48:47]  Like her mouth is kind of weird.
[00:48:49]  She did that movie.
[00:48:50]  It's actually really funny where this like right-wing conspiracy nut kidnaps her, him and his buddy, because they think she's an alien.
[00:48:57]  You didn't say that.
[00:48:57]  Oh, yeah, yes.
[00:48:59]  I heard it's good.
[00:48:59]  I haven't seen it.
[00:49:00]  I actually heard it's really good.
[00:49:01]  Should I not spoil it then?
[00:49:02]  No, I think you can.
[00:49:02]  No, nobody gets it.
[00:49:03]  I understand it.
[00:49:05]  So it's really funny because the bulk of the movie, you're just like, this whack-aloon conspiracy guy is nuts.
[00:49:13]  He's like, you're an alien and I cut your hair off so you can't communicate with the aliens.
[00:49:17]  And I've covered you in an antihistamine cream.
[00:49:19]  And she's like, what?
[00:49:20]  Because she's like the CEO of a chemical company.
[00:49:22]  And then only in the last five minutes does like, she escapes the guy.
[00:49:27]  He gets killed.
[00:49:28]  The police come.
[00:49:29]  They're like, thank God you're okay.
[00:49:30]  Then she flees from, jumps out of the ambulance, runs into her office into her weird secret, you know, I don't want to rebel too much.
[00:49:38]  And then transports to outer space where Earth is flat with a firmament.
[00:49:43]  And she's like, I'm sorry, I couldn't communicate.
[00:49:45]  They taken my hair.
[00:49:46]  They've taken my hair.
[00:49:47]  And then she's like, it's time to end the earth.
[00:49:49]  And then she pops the firmament.
[00:49:50]  And then all the humans just die.
[00:49:52]  Very morbid end.
[00:49:54]  Yeah, that was good.
[00:49:55]  That was good.
[00:49:56]  Because I kind of thought it was going to be this like, we get it, right-wing whack-aloons are nuts.
[00:50:00]  And it was just going to be making fun of Trump and like the right or something.
[00:50:03]  But then it turns out the guy was right the whole time and actually was capturing aliens.
[00:50:07]  I thought it was funny.
[00:50:08]  It's a nice twist.
[00:50:09]  Well, I mean, it was kind of obvious it was going to go one way or the other.
[00:50:12]  I mean, that is why conspiracies exist.
[00:50:14]  I mean, like you did say, like people can misinterpret information and kind of, you know, fib some, you know, exaggerate.
[00:50:20]  But there's always some, it's always based in some sort of truth somewhere.
[00:50:23]  There's some sort of evidence, you know, or else just people wouldn't believe it at all.
[00:50:27]  What do you mean some sort of evidence, though?
[00:50:29]  Like there's past people that have eaten people, like Jimmy Seville.
[00:50:31]  There are cannibals.
[00:50:32]  So like the idea.
[00:50:33]  There has to be a morsel.
[00:50:34]  Yeah, there has to be something truthful.
[00:50:37]  So when it comes to the Epstein file.
[00:50:38]  It's a conspiracy theory.
[00:50:39]  Like how about this?
[00:50:40]  If I said that the Earth was actually a bowl, it was actually a bowl, not flat, no ice wall.
[00:50:47]  It's actually lightly curved convex and that holds all the water in.
[00:50:52]  And it's very slight.
[00:50:53]  It's very slight.
[00:50:54]  And sometimes there's tsunamis because if the bowl tilts, the water rushes over.
[00:51:00]  Like you might get some people to believe something like that, but the reason why that's not a prominent conspiracy theory is that flat earth actually has some prehistory.
[00:51:09]  That is, the Bible describes the firmament and the upper oceans and things like this.
[00:51:13]  And so you start with the basic truth of you experience the Earth as if it were flat as far as you know.
[00:51:20]  Then you can start to guide people's certain direction and trick them and then wrap them up in crazier and crazier lies.
[00:51:27]  I think that's fair.
[00:51:28]  But what I'm saying is, to my exact point, there is some truth to that Epstein was doing weird stuff with kids.
[00:51:34]  100%.
[00:51:35]  You know, prime ministers of countries.
[00:51:38]  He went to jail for it.
[00:51:39]  Yeah.
[00:51:40]  And so what we know is, I mean, come on.
[00:51:43]  You got a guy who we have women who are like, yes.
[00:51:47]  Literally, he was hiring us as underage girls.
[00:51:50]  You know how the story broke, right?
[00:51:51]  How they actually got prosecuted?
[00:51:53]  When he was first arrested?
[00:51:55]  Two underage girls, like high school girls, got into a fight.
[00:51:57]  And then after the fight broke out, they searched the girls and found a bunch of cash.
[00:52:01]  And they said, where'd you get this money?
[00:52:02]  And she was like, I got paid by some guy.
[00:52:05]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:52:05]  It's a Netflix documentary.
[00:52:08]  That's what happened.
[00:52:09]  You had the mom, the kid had like 500 bucks.
[00:52:11]  And the mom's like, how do you have $500?
[00:52:13]  And she just told her mom and then her mom went to the cops.
[00:52:15]  Yep.
[00:52:16]  And then Epstein got caught.
[00:52:17]  Now, you think that was the only time he ever did it?
[00:52:20]  Of course not.
[00:52:20]  Right.
[00:52:21]  And right.
[00:52:22]  So anyway, more to the point is, do you think he was being directed by aliens to do it?
[00:52:27]  Well, he might have thought they were aliens because, you know, there's Aleister Crowley.
[00:52:30]  Some of these people, they do practice satanic rituals.
[00:52:33]  Do you know?
[00:52:34]  That doesn't mean alien, though.
[00:52:35]  I mean, you could argue like they're demons that they're...
[00:52:38]  Alex.
[00:52:38]  Yes.
[00:52:38]  Do you know about the Anunnaki?
[00:52:40]  Of course.
[00:52:40]  They created the Earth, dude.
[00:52:41]  Why did they create the Earth?
[00:52:43]  They were making human hybrids, and they actually created the white race.
[00:52:47]  Why?
[00:52:48]  Why were they making the hybrids?
[00:52:50]  What's the leader's name again?
[00:52:52]  What was the Yakub?
[00:52:54]  No, that's not Anunnaki.
[00:52:56]  You're wrong.
[00:52:56]  Okay.
[00:52:57]  You're talking about Black Hebrew nationalism or Israelites.
[00:53:00]  Black Hebrew Israelites, maybe.
[00:53:01]  Yeah.
[00:53:01]  So the Anunnaki live on a planet, Nibiru, and it has an elliptical orbit with the sun of 2,500 years, which means for a short period, it travels around our sun and it gets warm.
[00:53:15]  But after it leaves, it starts getting colder.
[00:53:18]  And for thousands, 2,000 years, it's going to be very, very cold.
[00:53:22]  So the intelligent alien race, the Anunnaki, used gold particles in their atmosphere to create a greenhouse effect to reflect heat back in.
[00:53:30]  So what they did was, when they came around into the solar system and saw Earth, they started creating a hybrid slave race so that they would mine gold for them and value it so that the Anunnaki could use the gold.
[00:53:43]  Unfortunately, the first slave race they created was too smart and understood the nature of the universe and so rejected the rule of the slaves and said no.
[00:53:51]  So the Anunnaki said, we need to make a stupider race, smart enough to do any task, but not smart enough to understand the nature of reality.
[00:53:58]  And then they created humans.
[00:53:59]  And then the humans were like, gold is good and gold and silver we love.
[00:54:04]  And that's one of the conspiracy theories about what the aliens are.
[00:54:07]  And the funny thing is, in the past like 15 or 20 years, the people who believe this particular theory, and I'm sure there's like a million different versions of the same theory, argued that we were entering the next era when Nibiru would return and they would come back and start controlling the politics of the Earth so that they could start taking all of our gold.
[00:54:28]  And then the best part about this is it's far-fetched lunacy nonsense, but you can jigsaw, puzzle, piece it together to make it make sense.
[00:54:35]  Like all the gold in Fort Knox is presumed to be missing around the time.
[00:54:40]  There's that kernel of truth.
[00:54:41]  Exactly.
[00:54:42]  Well, is it missing?
[00:54:42]  Do they admit that it's all missing?
[00:54:43]  Well, it's a conspiracy theory.
[00:54:44]  I know that's a conspiracy.
[00:54:46]  But then you mix all the conspiracies together and there you go.
[00:54:50]  The guy in charge of the Anunnaku's name was Marduk.
[00:54:53]  Well, there you go.
[00:54:54]  Marduk.
[00:54:54]  He assigned the Anunnaki their position.
[00:54:56]  And there's a metal band called Marduk now.
[00:54:59]  Oh.
[00:55:00]  Black metal band.
[00:55:00]  But yeah, Coop was real.
[00:55:02]  That's black heap people.
[00:55:03]  Yeah, or whatever that is.
[00:55:04]  He was a black guy who created white people to be evil?
[00:55:07]  Yeah.
[00:55:07]  Yeah, okay, dude.
[00:55:08]  The white people, if you would argue, they are the most evil, though.
[00:55:12]  Why is it?
[00:55:12]  Well, they're the smartest, so they can do the most tricks, you know?
[00:55:15]  What does that mean?
[00:55:18]  I don't know, bro.
[00:55:19]  I got to be honest.
[00:55:20]  Have you ever gone skiing?
[00:55:22]  Yeah, I have gone skiing.
[00:55:23]  And like, people put thousands of dollars in ski equipment.
[00:55:26]  They just put it on the ground and walk away and then come back an hour later.
[00:55:29]  It's because it's all white people.
[00:55:31]  That's true.
[00:55:32]  Yeah.
[00:55:33]  Well, I don't know that it's because they're all white people, but this culture is high trust.
[00:55:37]  Saudi Arabia is like that.
[00:55:38]  You can just leave your wallet and it'll chop your hands off.
[00:55:41]  Yeah.
[00:55:42]  Yeah.
[00:55:42]  I had a friend who went to, I think it was like the Emirates or whatever, and there was a jewelry store where the guy walked outside of his store and he lined gold necklaces in front of the store.
[00:55:50]  And she was like, aren't you scared that someone might steal them?
[00:55:53]  And he goes, no, they'll get their hands chopped off.
[00:55:56]  So it's like, I don't got to worry about it.
[00:55:57]  Like, the gold stores don't have to have like security there and stuff.
[00:56:00]  The justice system there isn't the same kind of long-drawn out problem.
[00:56:03]  There was a U.S. either.
[00:56:05]  There was a viral video.
[00:56:07]  It went viral because it was like three black dudes who went to a ski resort and stole like ton of ski gear.
[00:56:15]  Because like, I got to be honest.
[00:56:17]  Apparently, like, this story happens quite a bit.
[00:56:20]  Do they move it?
[00:56:21]  Or was it?
[00:56:22]  You can go.
[00:56:22]  You can easily move it.
[00:56:24]  It's crazy.
[00:56:24]  I posted on Craigslist.
[00:56:25]  I mean, come on.
[00:56:26]  Yeah.
[00:56:26]  Ski gear.
[00:56:27]  And it's just like, no, you know.
[00:56:28]  But there are tons of stories where someone grabbed the wrong ski gear.
[00:56:32]  And then you come out and you're like, where's my board?
[00:56:33]  And someone comes like, I'm so sorry.
[00:56:34]  Dude, I grabbed the wrong, like, your board, my board, like, looks identical.
[00:56:37]  I didn't even notice.
[00:56:38]  I almost grabbed the wrong skis because I had rentals and there's a bunch of like similar brands used by the rentals.
[00:56:43]  And I'm like, oh, wait, that wasn't mine.
[00:56:45]  And so the thing about ski resorts is especially the right ski resort, everybody's rich.

=== Why Transgender Hockey Players Face Doubts (13:12) ===

[00:56:51]  That's the thing.
[00:56:51]  Yeah.
[00:56:52]  It's super wealthy.
[00:56:53]  It's a rich man's game.
[00:56:54]  I mean, there are like ways to do it, you know, I guess, with value where it doesn't cost your family.
[00:56:58]  You buy like a ski pass, but you almost have to live there.
[00:57:00]  You have to almost be a local for it to not be able to do it.
[00:57:02]  I mean, like, if you live in like New England, there's a couple, there's a couple of mountains you can go to.
[00:57:05]  You can go to Vermont and stuff, but it's still like a couple hundred bucks for a rich man's game.
[00:57:11]  It's like golf in a way, you know?
[00:57:13]  Is golf?
[00:57:14]  I mean, it's like golf.
[00:57:15]  You know, golf's an expensive sport.
[00:57:16]  It's at.
[00:57:17]  So what do golf clubs cost?
[00:57:19]  Those get stolen too.
[00:57:20]  They do?
[00:57:21]  A few hundred, even for like a used pair.
[00:57:23]  Yeah.
[00:57:23]  If you want them to get the whole set, right?
[00:57:25]  Yeah.
[00:57:26]  Stein, to pivot a little bit, though, is there anything that's a little just bit too far out for you where you're just like, actually, nah, that's beyond.
[00:57:33]  Maybe the Earth isn't.
[00:57:36]  He's not a time traveler.
[00:57:38]  Oh, but on Charlie Kirk, is Erica Kirk responsible for anything?
[00:57:41]  No, no, no.
[00:57:42]  No, that's like 101 conspiracy theory nowadays.
[00:57:44]  Yeah, no.
[00:57:45]  Haven't you seen the videos though?
[00:57:47]  She had nothing to do with her husband's death.
[00:57:48]  No way.
[00:57:49]  But this is the bad part.
[00:57:50]  She's going to, Charlie faced immense criticism being the leader of Turning Point.
[00:57:53]  They made cartoons about him, so she's going to have to face intense criticism.
[00:57:57]  What do you think of everybody saying that she's in on it?
[00:57:59]  And like, that's a mainstream thing to say nowadays.
[00:58:01]  I disagree with that, but at the exact same time, I am a free speech absolutist, so I'm not going to be like that.
[00:58:06]  Why do you think so many people believe that?
[00:58:08]  Or are willing to spew it?
[00:58:10]  I don't even know if they actually believe it.
[00:58:11]  I think they're just trying to throw dirt in her face.
[00:58:13]  No, is that what you think of?
[00:58:14]  I don't know if it's just attention because I think that a lot of people, it's just like with the Epstein files and the similar fact that we want more transparency.
[00:58:23]  And so until the government gives more transparency, people are going to come up with their own conclusions.
[00:58:27]  Well, I mean, at the same time, like the evidence from Kenny.
[00:58:32]  The more transparency thing, they were making these accusations like days after, like a week after Charlie was killed.
[00:58:37]  So it's like you don't get any kind of resolution within a week after it happened.
[00:58:42]  And this goes back to royal times.
[00:58:44]  Like that would always happen when a king would die.
[00:58:46]  They thought it was like, you know, a woman trying to take, you know, that's this is kind of like, it's just, it just happens.
[00:58:51]  You know, that's kind of the story that they're going to tell.
[00:58:53]  And a lot of people are going to believe it.
[00:58:54]  And some people are obviously not going to believe it.
[00:58:56]  And I think me, I don't think Erica had anything to do with her husband.
[00:58:59]  I just, I'm struggling to figure out like how you decide when something's like definitely true and definitely not because I feel like the Erica Kurt would be right up your alley.
[00:59:05]  For example, like they would say, oh, the person in the crowd who yelled that I did it, even though they weren't the actual.
[00:59:10]  Charlie faked his death.
[00:59:11]  Charlie would never fake his death.
[00:59:12]  I mean, I wasn't best friends with Charlie, but the idea of him faking his death was just ludicrous.
[00:59:17]  He would never do that.
[00:59:17]  He's not dishonest.
[00:59:19]  Yeah, so I don't believe it.
[00:59:20]  I mean, I don't see what the benefit would be for Charlie faking.
[00:59:23]  Maybe, I don't know.
[00:59:24]  I don't know.
[00:59:24]  I mean, because then it makes it way more difficult.
[00:59:26]  But there's people on the internet that are saying that.
[00:59:27]  It makes it way more difficult for him to see his family.
[00:59:30]  No, they're saying that Erica's responsible for it.
[00:59:33]  I don't believe that, obviously.
[00:59:34]  There's a lot of things going around.
[00:59:36]  People are saying a lot of different stuff.
[00:59:37]  They're saying that it was a dude in a crowd.
[00:59:40]  There was a guy with the 22 standing there.
[00:59:44]  My favorite was that Charlie got shot in the back clearly and that he was shot by the guy in front of him in the bushes.
[00:59:50]  Yeah.
[00:59:51]  The one thing that's not possible.
[00:59:54]  The one thing I would like to know, though, it's that every time there is a shooter, the FBI is like, oh, they were on a radar.
[00:59:58]  We didn't do anything.
[00:59:59]  I would just imagine that Lance Twiggs and Tyler were on their radar.
[01:00:04]  I mean, whether they want to admit that, and I don't know that.
[01:00:06]  I'm just purely speculating.
[01:00:07]  I just feel like if they were in Discords talking about this, and I do think that he talked about it, dude, I feel like this is naturally up your alley, though.
[01:00:14]  I mean, didn't you hear that Charlie Kirk was turning on Israel and Israel had every incentive to go after him?
[01:00:18]  I mean, I feel like this is right up your alley.
[01:00:21]  I mean, I get, I mean, what do you, I don't know what your point is, I guess.
[01:00:24]  I mean, I work for Turnpike.
[01:00:25]  But he was turning on Israel and Israel had to kill him because he was turning on Israel and they didn't want to give him time to do so.
[01:00:31]  Didn't you see those text messages?
[01:00:33]  I don't think Charlie would ever turn his back on Israel, but maybe he showed some frustration.
[01:00:37]  I think that that's fair.
[01:00:38]  I mean, but I don't think that he would ever turn his back on it.
[01:00:40]  What do you think it says about people willing to use those texts and things like that to attack the things that he built, which is Turning Point and his wife is his widow.
[01:00:48]  Well, Charlie was attacked his entire career, so people aren't going to stop attacking Turning Point.
[01:00:53]  I guess you would just say the difference now, it's some conservatives now attacking it.
[01:00:57]  Well, if you want to call them that, I mean, I would say that there's right-leaning people that are attacking it now.
[01:01:01]  I think there's a difference between right-leaning and conservative nowadays.
[01:01:04]  Well, whatever.
[01:01:05]  I'm just saying it used to just be strictly from the left.
[01:01:07]  That's why Jezebel was doing articles before he died, you know, hiring people on Etsy to do spells on him.
[01:01:12]  So if that's a that was a regular occurrence in his life, weird stuff like that, not people doing spells necessarily.
[01:01:18]  So he was constantly under attack from the left.
[01:01:20]  Now that attack is coming, you know, from more people on the right.
[01:01:23]  So it just seems a little more intense.
[01:01:25]  But listen, I don't think Erica Kirk had anything to do with her husband's death.
[01:01:29]  But sadly, people are always going to say that because that's just, that's just, you can't change people's minds.
[01:01:34]  I want to jump to this story we had.
[01:01:36]  This is a tragic story that just broke a couple hours ago.
[01:01:38]  We've been waiting on details for it about this shooting.
[01:01:41]  You may have heard at the hockey rink in Paw Tuckett.
[01:01:45]  A father shot his wife and three kids in a horror family dispute.
[01:01:50]  Now, the thing about the story is that we've not gotten any details on the shooter.
[01:01:55]  And when that happens, you start to question.
[01:01:59]  Start making assumptions.
[01:02:00]  Yeah.
[01:02:01]  What was going on with this?
[01:02:03]  Now, of course, following this, we have no details.
[01:02:06]  They've not released any information.
[01:02:09]  If this was like a white male, they would have said right away, like, here's the person, here's the name.
[01:02:13]  The online rumors right now are that this was a father who had maybe like left his family or something, but was transgender.
[01:02:20]  Yep.
[01:02:21]  There's pictures.
[01:02:22]  But is any of this corroborated?
[01:02:25]  No, nothing's corroborated.
[01:02:26]  The fact that it's that vague guilty.
[01:02:28]  That's why I'm bringing up like the reason we've been sitting on, like, I've been sitting on this, like, waiting.
[01:02:32]  Like, I don't know if we can actually report this because other than saying a tragedy happened, we don't know much.
[01:02:37]  There are tweets going up that are uncorroborated of a man.
[01:02:41]  I'm not going to show because we don't know that this is the actual person.
[01:02:43]  But Turtle Boy says sources are reporting the person who set up a hockey game in Pawtucket was a transgender dad.
[01:02:49]  I'm not going to say the potential name.
[01:02:50]  It's going to be a popsicle headache for some people, but he appears to be a diehard Trump supporter who's been warning other conservatives on Twitter not to badmouth trans people.
[01:02:58]  Just yesterday, he warned Kevin Sorbo and Alex Jones that transgender people are going to go berserk if people keep bashing men like him.
[01:03:07]  I've not seen any evidence to confirm that this is the individual.
[01:03:10]  I don't know why people are assuming that it is, but a lot of people online are saying it is, but that doesn't mean it's true.
[01:03:17]  That being said, with the uh, with well, but here's the issue with the Canada shooting, it turned out that the internet was completely correct.
[01:03:24]  These initial reports that it was a transgender mass shooter, when they said woman in a dress, it was uh, in fact, it was a male, yeah.
[01:03:32]  And so, I suppose what we can opine on our stories like this is what is it, Coulter's Law, Coulter's Law, yeah, Coulter's Law is if a news report does not mention that if they don't give the identity or background of the perpetrator, you know, it's some kind of minority group.
[01:03:46]  Yep, that's what Ann Culture says, right?
[01:03:49]  Because the media will always tell you if it's going to be like if it's a white male who did it, they'll just say it.
[01:03:55]  Yeah, they got no problem.
[01:03:57]  If they don't tell you, then you have to wonder what minority group it might have been.
[01:04:01]  Yeah, I mean, this is this is this is likely the situation.
[01:04:05]  I don't know about political affiliation, but I don't think that really matters if it's a if it's a trans person.
[01:04:10]  Again, this is all still up in the air.
[01:04:12]  There's there's no confusion.
[01:04:13]  But isn't it weird that seven out of the last eight uh shooters have been trans shooters?
[01:04:17]  It's I don't, I actually don't think it's weird at all.
[01:04:20]  So, yeah, but I'm saying the flavor of the I know what you mean.
[01:04:24]  It is bizarre, though.
[01:04:25]  You don't think it's weird at all?
[01:04:26]  I know we kind of thought saw the um, no, but I'll elaborate in a second.
[01:04:30]  But there's photos I'm not going to show of an individual who looks like a middle-aged man who's trans at a hockey rank, which appears to be the location in question.
[01:04:39]  Uh, I don't know for sure, though.
[01:04:41]  So, until we get better corroboration, I'm not going to show anything.
[01:04:43]  But no, my point is the reason why I think we're seeing so many of these mass shooters being trans is because people who are suffering some kind of like psychotic derangement, you go online and you're told by everybody that the pain you feel is caused by being transgender.
[01:04:59]  This is the solution to everything, right?
[01:05:01]  We heard over and over again that when a teenager is depressed, someone says maybe you're trans, and then they get fastlined through this process.
[01:05:07]  So, the issue is not that the mass shooters are trans, but that people predisposed to violent deranged tendencies are being told they're trans and they're going for it.
[01:05:16]  Yeah, and I think it's just it shows that you're out of touch with reality if you do think that you can actually change your gender.
[01:05:21]  Because, you know, if you can't change anything or ethnicity, like you know, you can be half white and half black.
[01:05:26]  Like, our, you know, ethnicity is a spectrum, right?
[01:05:28]  You know, you can be half whatever, but you can't be half male and half female.
[01:05:31]  So, there's no spectrum, it's binary, it's yes or no.
[01:05:34]  And I guess you could say there's people born intersex, but I would just say they've, you know, mutilated genitals.
[01:05:39]  So, it's just if you think you can go, a man can become a woman, you're actually retarded.
[01:05:44]  And they even say that, no, I'm not even kidding.
[01:05:45]  They diagnose most of the trans people that have autism.
[01:05:48]  So, I think that's a huge correlation, too.
[01:05:49]  But females, yeah.
[01:05:51]  The uh, the report was that like a majority, overwhelming majority of transgender young women, young females have autism.
[01:05:57]  We talked about so, so what's happening is you've got these young people who are undergoing some kind of typical DSM-5 mental disorder, and they're told the solution is gender is gender medical, you know, therapy or whatever.
[01:06:11]  Yeah, I mean, we talked about this a little bit last week.
[01:06:13]  The instances of bulimia and anorexia have plummeted, and the instances of trans men has risen accordingly.
[01:06:22]  So, it's a lot of it is likely just body dysmorphia, at least with women.
[01:06:26]  When it manifests as in men, it manifests for different reasons.
[01:06:30]  But with women, it's very likely that it's all body dysmorphia when they're young.
[01:06:35]  They're going through a lot of changes in puberty and stuff, and that's a really difficult time.
[01:06:38]  And then you, you know, you couple that with bringing them to a psychologist that has been indoctrinated with this kind of BS, and so they start pushing it on kids.
[01:06:47]  We were talking about one kid that was 15 when she transitioned socially, she started dressing like a boy, and then 11 months later, they actually gave her surgery.
[01:06:59]  And, you know, it's insane, but the fact that a doctor would do that to a 16-year-old, you know, that's that's insane.
[01:07:06]  But this is all like part of the basically the medicine thing.
[01:07:13]  Okay, wait, I think we've got some more corroboration.
[01:07:17]  Let me see if I can find this.
[01:07:18]  Well, I would say everybody has like a little bit of body misphora dysmorphia because like if you really think about it, you know, Phil, it's like there's, you know, bigorexia where you want to be really big, you know, there's anorexia.
[01:07:28]  So it's like these, we know these people are mentally ill, and I think we have to blame the parents for, you know, enabling me.
[01:07:35]  It's confirmed.
[01:07:36]  We've got it.
[01:07:36]  This is NBC 10 saying that let's, okay, let me see if I can find the Dan Janig reporting it was a father, a man dressed in women's clothing that he targeted his family members at the hockey game.
[01:07:50]  So it's looking now like this is the photos may or may not be confirmed or no, but it does look like at the bare minimum, a man in women's clothing killed his family according to NBC 10.
[01:08:01]  Yeah, to pick up what you were saying, Alex, the particular case that I'm talking about, the mother actually testified because this child won a $2 million lawsuit against the doctor and the psychologist.
[01:08:14]  But the mother felt like she was being coerced.
[01:08:17]  She brought her kid to the psychologist and the psychologist was like, okay, this is what it is.
[01:08:21]  And the mother was like, hold on.
[01:08:22]  And the psychologist was like, no, no, this is actually what it is.
[01:08:26]  You have to affirm this, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:08:28]  So as much as there are definitely parents that push their kids into it, there's also a total industrialization.
[01:08:37]  They literally say that the kid's going to self-harm if they do.
[01:08:39]  Yeah, well, they did this.
[01:08:40]  Because, I mean, part of it is because they get paid more money to do procedures.
[01:08:44]  They get paid.
[01:08:45]  The pharmaceutical companies make money off the lifetime of drugs that the kid has to take.
[01:08:50]  They said that at Boston Children's Hospital, that they're lifelong patients.
[01:08:53]  Yeah.
[01:08:54]  So, I mean, it's a disgusting situation made even more horrible because the medical professionals that people are supposed to trust are actually pushing this on children.
[01:09:07]  Wow.
[01:09:07]  I mean, let me just read a little bit.
[01:09:09]  They say NBC 10's Dan Jenig reported citing a law enforcement source.
[01:09:13]  A suspect was a father who may have been dressed in women's clothing, and then he intentionally targeted family members who were at the hockey game.
[01:09:19]  Gonclave said police were not involved in the suspect's death.
[01:09:22]  It appears from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but we are going to investigate fully.
[01:09:27]  The police were not involved in that.
[01:09:28]  So according to rumors circulating on X from witnesses, this individual came in, shot his wife and then kids, and when was tackled by a bystander, pulled out a gun and shot himself.
[01:09:41]  And there are photos of an individual who is clearly transgender, and they're saying this is the person in question.
[01:09:47]  Other rumors are saying that the individual in question, social media account, was a Trump-supporting, far-right, you know, quote-unquote far-right trans person, but who was largely critical of the right for being anti-trans and threatened to go berserk.
[01:09:59]  So this is wild.
[01:10:01]  Yeah, I mean, look, it doesn't matter what your politics are.

=== Suspect's Tragic Choice (14:46) ===

[01:10:03]  If you're, you know, if you have this mental disorder, you have this disorder.
[01:10:07]  You know what the issue is for a lot of these people is that with body dysmorphic disorder, there are people who, no matter how fit they get, look in the mirror and they feel like they're not fit.
[01:10:18]  Something is wrong.
[01:10:19]  There are dudes who are so jacked, they can't itch their back.
[01:10:22]  You ever see the video where they put a post-it note on this weightlift on this bodybuilder's back and he can't get it off because his muscles are too big.
[01:10:28]  He's like, oh man.
[01:10:29]  But there are people like that.
[01:10:31]  I'm not saying that guy, but there are people who look in the mirror and they see themselves scrawny.
[01:10:34]  So they just keep going, keep eating.
[01:10:36]  Same thing with anorexia.
[01:10:38]  So the problem is, for these people who are suffering from gender dysphoria, no matter how many times they look in the mirror, they're not going to see the right thing.
[01:10:47]  It's not an issue of them being the wrong gender.
[01:10:49]  It's an issue of them having some kind of self-identification issue that anyone can experience in a variety of ways.
[01:10:56]  There are people who stage, there was one famous story where a guy knocked the jack out from a murderous car so it would crush his arm because he felt that he shouldn't have an arm because he had body dysmorphic disorder.
[01:11:08]  And so he went to the doctor and said, you need to remove my arm.
[01:11:11]  It's not part of my body.
[01:11:12]  And they were like, you're wrong.
[01:11:13]  So then he crushed it with his vehicle so that it would be amputated and he could finally get off.
[01:11:18]  Like, there are people.
[01:11:20]  You remember Rich Piana?
[01:11:22]  Yeah, I do.
[01:11:23]  He was so famous.
[01:11:24]  Look him up.
[01:11:25]  He's a meme now, Rich Piana.
[01:11:26]  But he would actually inject silicone into his muscles.
[01:11:29]  And that was one of the reasons he did that.
[01:11:33]  Synthol.
[01:11:33]  Yep.
[01:11:34]  Synthol, excuse me.
[01:11:35]  Yeah, but it's, but at least he like worked out.
[01:11:36]  You ever see that?
[01:11:37]  He did.
[01:11:37]  But I mean, that's a mental disinthol.
[01:11:39]  Like he was already jacked.
[01:11:40]  He didn't need to put that into his muscles.
[01:11:43]  Yeah, but synthol late.
[01:11:44]  He died from it?
[01:11:45]  How old?
[01:11:45]  He was 46.
[01:11:46]  I thought he died from something else.
[01:11:48]  He had like a heart.
[01:11:48]  Dehydration.
[01:11:49]  Yeah.
[01:11:49]  Yeah, but he just didn't take care of himself very well.
[01:11:51]  Well, because a lot of these guys, when you want your muscles to be visible, you have to dehydrate yourself.
[01:11:55]  Because the truth is, everybody's got a six-pack.
[01:11:58]  It's just a question of how much fat is on top of it.
[01:12:01]  Correct.
[01:12:02]  And so for a lot of these guys, you see it like in the movies, they have their six-pack showing, you know, like some superhero movie, and they're like, look at me.
[01:12:08]  Yeah, they don't drink water for the day or whatever.
[01:12:11]  They get real dehydrated.
[01:12:12]  And then they probably.
[01:12:13]  Yep.
[01:12:14]  Yep.
[01:12:14]  Yeah, I was reading.
[01:12:15]  I think it was Chris Hemsworth said he was eating like several pounds of chicken and fish per day to maintain the mass because you need to keep eating the protein.
[01:12:25]  Otherwise, there was a funny incident where Jason was Jason Momo.
[01:12:29]  Is that his name?
[01:12:30]  Jason Momoa.
[01:12:31]  Momoa.
[01:12:31]  He was on the beach and they said he was looking pudgy.
[01:12:35]  And it was like, no, he just looked normal.
[01:12:38]  He's a very fit guy.
[01:12:39]  He was in between movie shoots and he looked fit, but you couldn't see his muscles or anything.
[01:12:45]  And so the assumption from these paparazzi people was like, oh, wow, look how fat he is.
[01:12:49]  And it's like, no, that's like a normal body.
[01:12:51]  Well, that's like that.
[01:12:51]  Daddy, the baddie, the UFC fighter, gets like 35 pounds fatter right after his fights.
[01:12:56]  Like literally, instantly.
[01:12:57]  Or after his weigh-ins, you mean?
[01:12:59]  No, well, he gets a little bigger at the weigh-ins because he probably, you know, rehydrates, but like he's just famous for getting really fat in the offseason and losing it all right before.
[01:13:06]  You know what they should do for the weigh-ins?
[01:13:09]  They should test your, they should give both people the same IV bag.
[01:13:14]  So that way they have to.
[01:13:15]  Oh, yeah, that would kind of do it.
[01:13:16]  Well, you're because you're both going to gain the same amount of weight, but stop being dehydrated and killing yourself.
[01:13:20]  That guy falling was bad.
[01:13:22]  Which one?
[01:13:22]  Just recently, look it up where they were live on the air and the guy fell behind them at a weigh-in.
[01:13:27]  Yes.
[01:13:27]  At the weigh-in, it was just super viral video.
[01:13:30]  Because he passed out, right?
[01:13:30]  Yeah, but it's hard to watch.
[01:13:32]  Three weeks ago.
[01:13:32]  You want to get as low as let's pull this up.
[01:13:34]  Let's pull this up.
[01:13:35]  Let's pull this up.
[01:13:36]  Is this it right here?
[01:13:37]  Yeah.
[01:13:37]  And they were live on the air.
[01:13:38]  Oh, it was a doctor talking about it.
[01:13:40]  Let's get this doctor's opinion.
[01:13:41]  He's going to tell us all about this stuff.
[01:13:43]  It was an extremely concerning scene earlier at UFC 324 weigh-ins when Cameron Smotherman completely collapsed after stepping off the scale from his weigh-in.
[01:13:51]  In this video, we'll talk about what exactly happened here.
[01:13:53]  And more importantly, the response afterwards.
[01:13:56]  Welcome back, everybody.
[01:13:57]  I'm Dr. Brian.
[01:13:58]  I'm going to skip ahead to my channels to teach you more about passes out.
[01:14:00]  Eventually, they regain consciousness, right?
[01:14:02]  He was able to sit back up.
[01:14:04]  He regained consciousness here.
[01:14:06]  But then, unfortunately, what do we see?
[01:14:08]  And he goes back down.
[01:14:09]  He still feels lightheaded.
[01:14:11]  There hasn't been enough time for that water that he's drinking to get distributed to restore that plasma volume, to restore optimal blood supply to his brain, and he goes back down again.
[01:14:20]  We then see this whole sequence as they get him off of the stage.
[01:14:25]  They are literally just carrying him, and it looks like he's still unconscious.
[01:14:31]  Jeez.
[01:14:32]  I mean, I don't know what we're doing here.
[01:14:35]  This is, I don't know.
[01:14:37]  I don't know what we're doing here because you should not be just carrying an unconscious.
[01:14:42]  Dude.
[01:14:43]  Wow, man.
[01:14:44]  That's crazy.
[01:14:45]  I mean, shout out to Brian Sutterer, MD, for you.
[01:14:49]  Same thing with bodybuilders.
[01:14:50]  I haven't seen this kind of thing happen, but bodybuilders, before they go on stage, they're completely dehydrated because it makes your skin look super, super thin.
[01:14:57]  And a lot of bodybuilders use diuretics and stuff to just suck the water out of them.
[01:15:02]  So they're on stage.
[01:15:04]  They're smiling and they're posing for the camera and stuff, but they're likely fighting cramps at the time.
[01:15:11]  They're in a lot of pain.
[01:15:11]  It's a really agonizing situation.
[01:15:13]  Oh, yeah, dude.
[01:15:14]  It's wild.
[01:15:14]  My brother was, he won Mr. SMU in like 2019 or 18, I think.
[01:15:19]  And I watched him for like three days, like do nothing but eat ground beef.
[01:15:23]  It was disgusting.
[01:15:24]  And he felt like death.
[01:15:25]  Yeah.
[01:15:25]  It was bad.
[01:15:26]  You know, we like dropped weight and wasn't eating anything.
[01:15:29]  I mean, he had to look really cut for like the thing.
[01:15:31]  And yeah, you just got to be.
[01:15:33]  What is it?
[01:15:33]  Like a bodybuilding thing?
[01:15:34]  Yeah, it's like a bodybuilding competition.
[01:15:36]  And so like, I guess the goal was to get like as low body fat as you possibly could and then like get super tan and like flex.
[01:15:43]  Both people for the weigh-in right before they go up are going to sit down for a nice IV bag.
[01:15:47]  Weighs the same.
[01:15:49]  And then you're both going to go up and you're going to get weighed.
[01:15:52]  And that's it.
[01:15:53]  It's silly that they're like, we want to get this weight class, so we're going to die to do it.
[01:15:57]  You know, we're like crushing our bodies to do it.
[01:15:59]  Well, Ronnie Coleman, the world's best bodybuilder, he didn't drink at all.
[01:16:02]  But before competitions like the night or two nights before, he would get really drunk on vodka.
[01:16:07]  So he would just be so dehydrated.
[01:16:09]  And he didn't even normally drink.
[01:16:11]  That's so dumb.
[01:16:12]  Man, humans are weird.
[01:16:15]  You see Ronnie now and he can barely walk through all the back surgeries that he's had.
[01:16:19]  He's the greatest.
[01:16:19]  And he won the most.
[01:16:21]  Remember Jack Lelaine?
[01:16:22]  Yeah.
[01:16:22]  That guy was awesome.
[01:16:23]  Not as good as Ronnie Coleman.
[01:16:25]  Jack Lelane wasn't a bodybuilder.
[01:16:27]  No, I know.
[01:16:27]  He was just a fitness guy.
[01:16:28]  He was like, I'm 90 years old and I can backflip.
[01:16:30]  And you're like, yeah.
[01:16:31]  He's awesome.
[01:16:32]  But he was considerably more healthy than any bodybuilder.
[01:16:36]  It was always kind of weird to me.
[01:16:37]  Like, wasn't Richard Simmons kind of out of shape?
[01:16:40]  I think so.
[01:16:40]  Yeah.
[01:16:41]  But that was part of his fitness gimmick that you could be fat and you can move around.
[01:16:45]  It's all about positivity.
[01:16:46]  And so that's why he didn't need to be a positive.
[01:16:49]  I've been watching Star Trek the Next Generation again for like my fifth or sixth watch through.
[01:16:53]  And it's just like everybody's super thin in that show.
[01:16:56]  Like this is the late 80s.
[01:16:57]  Yeah.
[01:16:58]  We had like a roaring economy coming like after the Reagan years and everybody was very happy and the economy was a boom and you know why that was?
[01:17:08]  Cocaine.
[01:17:08]  Yeah.
[01:17:09]  The CIA sold cocaine.
[01:17:11]  Like we just need to go back to where the CIA just sells cocaine.
[01:17:14]  They should stop trafficking kids.
[01:17:15]  Oh, Zempek out of there.
[01:17:16]  Cocaine is sold cocaine.
[01:17:18]  Now we got Maduro.
[01:17:19]  We got all the crack we need from Venezuela.
[01:17:22]  Like just CIA cocaine.
[01:17:24]  Cocaine, I think you're overstating the amount of cocaine that the C Layers are.
[01:17:28]  I don't think I am.
[01:17:29]  I don't think I am.
[01:17:30]  They weren't selling cocaine.
[01:17:31]  They weren't selling cocaine all day.
[01:17:32]  They were not selling cocaine all over the country.
[01:17:34]  They would pay more.
[01:17:35]  They would be less on dating apps.
[01:17:37]  They were not selling cocaine all over the country.
[01:17:39]  They were selling cocaine.
[01:17:40]  I mean, Arkansas, they were selling cocaine in certain places, but they weren't like providing the whole country.
[01:17:46]  I mean, sure, Jan.
[01:17:47]  I think they were selling cocaine.
[01:17:48]  I like to believe the food pyramid.
[01:17:51]  It's totally wrong.
[01:17:52]  No, no, no.
[01:17:53]  It was totally right, but they forgot to mention that each pyramid was 10% cocaine.
[01:17:57]  Yeah.
[01:17:57]  See, that would be better.
[01:17:58]  The government was like, here's some bread.
[01:17:59]  What's in it?
[01:18:00]  Trust us.
[01:18:01]  And then you'd eat it and you'd be like, and then you'd just lose all that weight.
[01:18:04]  If I had a time machine and I had to go back anywhere, it's to when cocaine was in Coca-Cola.
[01:18:09]  I mean, that is, I would love to just try that.
[01:18:11]  Oh, you know, you know that kid.
[01:18:13]  Cocaine-laced cocaine.
[01:18:14]  But you know that caffeine has near the same physiological effect?
[01:18:17]  Not if you drink 20 Coca-Colas, I'm sure.
[01:18:20]  Caffeine and cocaine have very, very similar physiological effects.
[01:18:23]  I think that's probably true.
[01:18:24]  It is true.
[01:18:25]  It's absolutely true.
[01:18:26]  But I think cocaine has more of a euphoric feeling.
[01:18:28]  That's a different thing.
[01:18:29]  Caffeine does induce euphoria.
[01:18:31]  People just don't take that much.
[01:18:32]  Yeah.
[01:18:33]  Probably.
[01:18:33]  Yeah.
[01:18:34]  I'm not.
[01:18:34]  You don't think they are similar?
[01:18:35]  They're like the same analogy.
[01:18:37]  Bro, we are a nation hopped up on goofballs, bro.
[01:18:40]  Caffeine is a psychoactive stimulant, and it's in everything.
[01:18:43]  It's in everything.
[01:18:44]  You know what?
[01:18:45]  You know what my theory is as to why they give you a liter of cola when you go to a fast food restaurant?
[01:18:50]  Why?
[01:18:50]  You eat this big thing of fries, salt and oil, and then you eat this disgusting burger, which is probably half styrofoam.
[01:18:58]  And your body is like red alert.
[01:19:01]  You know, the captain of your body is like, we're going to die.
[01:19:05]  We need to shut the body down and divert all energy to get this crap through the system.
[01:19:10]  So at the same time, you pump yourself full of caffeine to jolt your brain.
[01:19:15]  I'd imagine if you like went to a fast food restaurant and said, let me get a super sized meal with a big fry, you'd pass out.
[01:19:21]  You get the itis.
[01:19:22]  You just like, and you fall over, you get the meat sweats.
[01:19:25]  But you drink a liter of cola and crank 300 milligrams of caffeine in your system and your body is dying, but your brain is like, everything's fine.
[01:19:32]  Well, you have a coffee company.
[01:19:33]  I mean, I do think like, I mean, I think it proves that like caffeine is probably just as addicting.
[01:19:38]  More people use coffee than, you know, cocaine.
[01:19:40]  So it's probably the same freaking thing, basically.
[01:19:43]  You know what really bums me out is cold brew is so delicious.
[01:19:46]  I got some of that.
[01:19:47]  I forgot what the company's called.
[01:19:48]  I don't know what it's called.
[01:19:49]  I don't know.
[01:19:50]  The Western world was created on like caffeine and the enlightenment stuff.
[01:19:54]  But like, but like a good cold brew, it's like dark and chocolatey.
[01:19:57]  You put some heavy cream in your little tablespoon of heavy cream.
[01:20:00]  You mix it up and it tastes so good.
[01:20:01]  But people don't understand this.
[01:20:02]  A cup of coffee has like 90 milligrams of caffeine in it.
[01:20:05]  And a cup of cold brew has like 350 milligrams of caffeine.
[01:20:10]  I'm pro-stimulating.
[01:20:11]  Crazy.
[01:20:11]  Yeah, me too.
[01:20:12]  So I think it's good.
[01:20:13]  It's good for you.
[01:20:13]  You ever see that video of Hitler on a stimulant?
[01:20:15]  Oh, yeah.
[01:20:16]  Oh, yeah.
[01:20:17]  And he's like tweaking out.
[01:20:18]  Everything in moderation, of course.
[01:20:20]  I'm not talking about.
[01:20:21]  It's funny I'm talking about that.
[01:20:22]  You know who else is on meth?
[01:20:23]  Clavicular, your favorite content creator.
[01:20:25]  He's on meth.
[01:20:26]  He was doing it on.
[01:20:27]  You love that guy.
[01:20:27]  I think he's the number one guy right now.
[01:20:29]  He's the top dog.
[01:20:29]  I just, you know, he needs to come on Tim Cass IRL, but he's trying to stay out of politics.
[01:20:34]  I think he does steroids too.
[01:20:36]  Yeah.
[01:20:36]  I'm not just doing steroids.
[01:20:38]  I'm not about that meth life.
[01:20:41]  He does steroids.
[01:20:43]  I got a question.
[01:20:43]  I got a question.
[01:20:44]  For these UFC fighters, like if they did meth or Coke, would they get in trouble?
[01:20:48]  John Jones?
[01:20:49]  Yeah, I think so.
[01:20:49]  They get tested for that?
[01:20:50]  Yeah.
[01:20:51]  I was saying this.
[01:20:52]  I don't know.
[01:20:53]  I think any athlete in the Olympics is going to get tested.
[01:20:56]  So we were having this conversation.
[01:20:58]  Actually, this would be great for the skateboard podcast because I was telling the other pro skateboarders, like skateboarding is probably the only pro sport, maybe not necessarily where you can do stimulants and never get caught.
[01:21:08]  Maybe golf.
[01:21:10]  Even the X games, they don't drug test?
[01:21:12]  I don't think so because, bro, all those dudes.
[01:21:15]  You lose everybody.
[01:21:16]  Yeah.
[01:21:18]  The Olympics, yes.
[01:21:19]  The Olympics, yes.
[01:21:20]  But it's not just that.
[01:21:21]  It's that a bunch of the pro skate contests are just, they're just unregulated culture core.
[01:21:26]  And so I was telling them, like, bro, I'm going to tell you this right now.
[01:21:29]  When you watch that skate contest in like Tampa or whatever, I bet these dudes are just coked out of their minds, bro.
[01:21:36]  Like, I want to win.
[01:21:37]  They go out there.
[01:21:38]  No one's drug testing them.
[01:21:40]  They're doing performance, you know, performance enhancing drugs, PEDs, but they're not doing anything special.
[01:21:45]  They're just blasting Coke.
[01:21:46]  I don't think that Coke counts as a PED.
[01:21:48]  But I think they'd hit it.
[01:21:49]  It definitely is.
[01:21:50]  Damn, I think it's more likely also they would also have to be on downers because they're hurting their shins or hurting their feet.
[01:21:55]  Like, you know, it'd be a strong likelihood they would also get pain pills.
[01:21:59]  I think, nah, you know, like, I got whacked in my shin three times today and it hurts and be a man.
[01:22:07]  Yeah, but I mean, nobody's.
[01:22:09]  Aaron Rodgers famously took Percocet to like play football.
[01:22:12]  And you can tell him like in an interview, like in a post-game interview, he's clearly very, but that's more like painkiller.
[01:22:18]  Sure.
[01:22:19]  You know?
[01:22:20]  I mean, if like they're popping ibuprofens, I'd be like, yeah, I guess.
[01:22:22]  Yeah, but like you take a sick fall at the X games.
[01:22:26]  You're a little bit hurt.
[01:22:26]  You need to get back up.
[01:22:27]  You pop a perk and then you're ready to go for another game.
[01:22:29]  Perk's not going to hit you for 45 minutes anyway.
[01:22:31]  And perks.
[01:22:32]  I don't know.
[01:22:32]  I don't park drugs.
[01:22:33]  You got three minutes between runs.
[01:22:35]  You're not taking drugs in your run because you do a slam.
[01:22:37]  And trust me, dude, skateboarders, when you take a slam, when you fall, and we shouldn't say, like, any, any athlete, if you're in the middle of your, your sport and you fall down and you slam, you're not going like, oh, no, I'm so hurt.
[01:22:49]  I need drugs.
[01:22:50]  I got to be honest, especially if you're on cocaine.
[01:22:54]  Yeah.
[01:22:54]  You're not going to be like, oh, I hurt my eyes.
[01:22:56]  Is it not common in the skate community?
[01:22:57]  Are they doing skateboarder?
[01:22:59]  The best skateboarders in the world.
[01:23:00]  I can't speak for some, I can't speak for everybody, but let me just tell you this.
[01:23:05]  Skateboarding is largely dead, but I assure you, all the biggest guys in the world, when you watch these videos, they're like, Can you believe this dude just did the greatest trick?
[01:23:11]  And I'm like, oh, wow.
[01:23:12]  And how much Coke was he on?
[01:23:13]  Yeah.
[01:23:13]  Okay.
[01:23:13]  Because I'm going to tell you right now, they are on Coke.
[01:23:16]  They are.
[01:23:16]  They are whacked up.
[01:23:17]  I mean, you would have to be a little not sober, but you don't want to be like drunk.
[01:23:22]  So feeling pretty innovative.
[01:23:23]  But Adderall.
[01:23:24]  You didn't take Adderall.
[01:23:25]  No, not Adderall.
[01:23:26]  Adderall's too slow.
[01:23:27]  Pro baseball players, you know, they used to take beanies back in the day, which is all there's a pro skateboarder who takes a beer and just bashes his face over and over again and then does something ridiculous.
[01:23:37]  And I'm just like, he's probably got brain damage.
[01:23:40]  Yeah.
[01:23:41]  I mean, look, if you're ripping a bunch of lines, are you worried about damaging your brain?
[01:23:46]  That's the crazy thing about sports like skateboarding.
[01:23:49]  And it's not just that there's like BMX.
[01:23:51]  And you know what the funny thing is?
[01:23:54]  I don't think I don't think this largely of like skiing and snowboarding, like winter sports, but a lot of the action sports, these people are just whacked out of their minds on drugs.
[01:24:03]  Their whole life is: if I do the craziest thing imaginable, I'm going to make more money.
[01:24:08]  Literally, there's a quote.
[01:24:09]  It was an interview in a magazine like 20 years ago I read where the guy said, The thing about skateboarding is that you're tired, you're not really feeling it.
[01:24:17]  And then your boss says, I want you to nose grind the 16-stair handrail and you'll make an extra $20,000 this year.
[01:24:23]  Now, don't worry about the terminology.
[01:24:25]  They're basically saying, jump down this flight of stairs when you feel sick and not like you're going to make it.
[01:24:30]  Otherwise, you're not going to make as much money this year.
[01:24:32]  And so you go for it.
[01:24:34]  And I don't want to get too personal, but a friend of mine who was a pro landed a crazy trick that was very dangerous.
[01:24:41]  And the boss said it didn't look good enough.
[01:24:43]  Go back and do it again.
[01:24:44]  When they went back and did it again, they broke their arm and quits and quit.
[01:24:48]  I was like, I'm done.
[01:24:49]  Wow.

=== Fox News' Million-Dollar Audience (14:50) ===

[01:24:50]  Yep.
[01:24:51]  I mean, what was it for?
[01:24:52]  It was for a video, yeah.
[01:24:54]  Well, and so I'm telling you, there's a lot of pot smoking because it wipes your brain out.
[01:25:01]  And then so these skateboarders are just like, duh, and then they can do crazy tricks.
[01:25:05]  And then the rest of them are just blasting lines of Coke like nobody's business.
[01:25:08]  Well, not Tony Hawk, though.
[01:25:09]  He's like famous.
[01:25:10]  I don't think Tony Hawk is a drug kind of guy.
[01:25:12]  No, I don't think so.
[01:25:14]  I mean, I know for sure, but he doesn't come off.
[01:25:16]  You know what he's doing?
[01:25:17]  He's popping QNAL.
[01:25:18]  What's that?
[01:25:19]  You don't know about QNAL?
[01:25:21]  No.
[01:25:21]  You don't know?
[01:25:22]  He takes turmeric.
[01:25:23]  Oh, he's popping turmeric pills, baby.
[01:25:25]  That's good for you.
[01:25:26]  He does.
[01:25:27]  That's smart.
[01:25:27]  Bro, Tony Hawk is in his late 50s and he does commercials on Fox News for turmeric.
[01:25:34]  So you make fun of me for liking.
[01:25:35]  I'm going to make a funny.
[01:25:36]  You watch Fox News, unironically.
[01:25:38]  So I do.
[01:25:40]  I also watch MS Now.
[01:25:42]  I watch the Young Turks.
[01:25:43]  You know the job.
[01:25:44]  I watch Kyle Kalinsky.
[01:25:45]  I'm saying the Young Turks is on the internet at least.
[01:25:47]  I mean, that's not.
[01:25:48]  Fox News on the internet.
[01:25:49]  What do you mean?
[01:25:49]  Yeah, but Fox News.
[01:25:52]  You're too old to be watching.
[01:25:52]  Yes, I know.
[01:25:53]  You should be watching Fox News.
[01:25:55]  You're boomer age.
[01:25:55]  Look at you.
[01:25:56]  No, I'm not.
[01:25:57]  First of all, Alex Stein is just memeing when he says clips.
[01:26:01]  You don't need to, you know, you don't have to be an agent.
[01:26:02]  He's just memeing.
[01:26:03]  I don't think he watches Fox News because of the whole big booty Latina thing.
[01:26:07]  Yeah, I don't watch it.
[01:26:08]  Well, one reason they fired my biological stepfather, Tucker Carlson.
[01:26:11]  So, you know, ever since Tucker's been gone, I've boycotted.
[01:26:13]  Biological stepfather.
[01:26:15]  Yeah, and I just think Fox News kind of sucks overall.
[01:26:18]  It's a good guy to have a stepfather.
[01:26:19]  That's because they want he's a pretty influential guy.
[01:26:22]  I was going to say, I'm really curious as to what happens with the media industry because we were talking about this the other day.
[01:26:28]  Let me do this again because people are really interested in this.
[01:26:31]  Cable TV ratings.
[01:26:33]  We did a segment on it.
[01:26:34]  The segment was massive because people, hold on, let me see if I can pull this one up.
[01:26:41]  It's here.
[01:26:43]  We go.
[01:26:44]  Who has the biggest show, Gutfeld?
[01:26:45]  Who's the biggest show on the network?
[01:26:47]  On Fox.
[01:26:47]  I still think it's probably 8 p.m. or the 5.
[01:26:49]  It used to be Jesse Waters or The 5, I think, probably.
[01:26:53]  The personality is the show.
[01:26:53]  Jesse took his spot.
[01:26:54]  Check this out.
[01:26:55]  Check this out.
[01:26:56]  Week of February 2nd, cable news ratings.
[01:26:59]  Fox is the only network to grow.
[01:27:01]  And the only thing that really matters, well, first I'll say this.
[01:27:04]  Fox News had 2.633 million viewers.
[01:27:07]  275,000 were in the key demo.
[01:27:11]  Yo, that terrifies me, man.
[01:27:12]  That's outrageous.
[01:27:13]  Check this out.
[01:27:13]  Check this out.
[01:27:14]  10%.
[01:27:15]  They do 175,000 in daytime.
[01:27:18]  This is crazy.
[01:27:19]  MS Now, 134,000.
[01:27:22]  Because old people buy more stuff.
[01:27:24]  So it's almost better if you have like a news.
[01:27:26]  No, no, this is my point.
[01:27:27]  Bro, boomers are about to turn 80.
[01:27:30]  They're about to die.
[01:27:31]  Like it's called the mortality shelf.
[01:27:34]  So Fox News is going to cease to exist.
[01:27:37]  There's no way you support the studio for the five at those salaries.
[01:27:41]  Jesse Waters, big fan, appreciate his man the show quite a bit.
[01:27:45]  His rumored salary, I don't know if the actual numbers, I think it's $5 million a year or something like that.
[01:27:48]  Ain't no way you're paying him $5 million a year off 275,000 viewers per night.
[01:27:53]  Not happening.
[01:27:54]  Well, you're talking about the key demo, though.
[01:27:56]  I mean, if they have old people watching, they're more likely to buy the products.
[01:28:00]  Alex, my point is the old people are dying.
[01:28:02]  Yes.
[01:28:02]  And when their ratings drop from 2.63 in QNAL commercials down to $225,000 for beer commercials, they're not going to generate enough ad sales to support big students.
[01:28:13]  I agree.
[01:28:13]  They are a dinosaur and they're going to get hit by a metaphorical comment any day.
[01:28:18]  All of them.
[01:28:18]  All of them.
[01:28:19]  I mean, MS Now, I don't even understand how MS Now exists.
[01:28:21]  And rumors are MS Now's daytime is 75,000.
[01:28:26]  In the key demo.
[01:28:28]  Bro, I could, I kid you not, I could launch a brand new podcast on chicken farming with Elad, who has no experience, and I, who literally have no idea for the most part about chickens, and we'd get more views than MS Now gets to it.
[01:28:41]  It would be interesting because Elad doesn't know anything about chickens.
[01:28:44]  To be fair, it would be really funny to hear us BSing the whole time about nonsense and laughing about chickens.
[01:28:48]  And that's more entertaining than MS Now.
[01:28:50]  I do like eating your chickens eggs.
[01:28:52]  It's one of those Timcast perks.
[01:28:53]  So working at this company.
[01:28:54]  Yeah.
[01:28:55]  Like, I don't know.
[01:28:55]  I've never had real eggs.
[01:28:57]  It's true.
[01:28:57]  Employees at Timcast get first come first serve eggs from chickens.
[01:29:01]  There's always way too many, too.
[01:29:02]  It was funny.
[01:29:03]  I asked my wife the other day.
[01:29:03]  I was like, oh, did we get eggs in the store?
[01:29:05]  And she goes, no, I couldn't fit it in the bag.
[01:29:07]  I decided just to not get it.
[01:29:09]  And then I had to walk over to the chicken coop and congratulate the eggs.
[01:29:12]  A lot of money.
[01:29:13]  I'm right.
[01:29:14]  On this key demo stuff, though, this is for advertisements.
[01:29:17]  However, older people vote a lot more than younger people.
[01:29:20]  So they're still getting their message out to some of the most important voters.
[01:29:23]  I got to stop you right there.
[01:29:24]  They're going to die soon.
[01:29:25]  Yes.
[01:29:26]  The mortality shelf is now, which means life expectancy being 79 doesn't mean when you turn 79, you die.
[01:29:32]  It means some people live to 85, 90, 100.
[01:29:35]  Some people die at 70.
[01:29:37]  The expectation right now, as boomers have just hit life expectancy, is that there's a curve from 79 and down where we're going to see a certain amount of death.
[01:29:45]  So if we cut off the portion that's expected, the higher end of the bell curve that will live beyond 80 years old, as some do, we're looking at, they estimate like 30 million deaths in the next four or five years from average life expectancy deaths.
[01:30:00]  This is the reality.
[01:30:01]  People die around this age, which means in the next year or so, total viewership, to be fair, when Tucker Carlson was on the air, he was doing $3 to $5 million per night with like 600,000, 700,000 key demo.
[01:30:17]  Now, that's Tucker Carlson.
[01:30:19]  I get it.
[01:30:19]  When he left, the numbers did go down.
[01:30:21]  But even now, looking at the numbers, they are saying like, well, they're up this month, 12 in the demo.
[01:30:26]  That's good.
[01:30:27]  And that is good.
[01:30:28]  But their total viewership is collapsing while their key demo is going up a little bit.
[01:30:34]  Again, you are not going to sustain CNN, Fox News, or MS Now.
[01:30:39]  And the rumors are that the story broke that with like, what was like Warner Brothers is talking to Paramount or something like this.
[01:30:47]  And I don't know.
[01:30:47]  I don't even know where CNN is anywhere because it's been sold so many times.
[01:30:50]  But CNN is a worthless company.
[01:30:53]  It is worthless.
[01:30:55]  They don't have enough views to actually bring in money.
[01:30:58]  Now, to be fair, technically they do because they're getting, yo, this is apocalypse.
[01:31:02]  Look at this.
[01:31:03]  CNN gets 753,000 total prime time.
[01:31:06]  That's old people.
[01:31:08]  They're doing 142 in the key demo.
[01:31:10]  They're down 16% in the key demo and 9% in total.
[01:31:15]  Daytime, 527,000 total viewers total.
[01:31:20]  And that's being on in every airport in the country.
[01:31:23]  Okay, what you guys need to understand is that 142,000 prime time does not mean one hour.
[01:31:31]  It means total.
[01:31:32]  All night.
[01:31:33]  The expectation is then in, I think it's three or four hours, they're doing like 40,000 viewers.
[01:31:40]  I mean, that's crazy.
[01:31:42]  I'm not surprised at all, really.
[01:31:44]  I mean, I think everybody watches stuff on their phone.
[01:31:46]  I watch short form content.
[01:31:48]  I'm going to let you guys in on a secret.
[01:31:50]  You guys want to know a secret?
[01:31:51]  Yeah, what's the secret?
[01:31:52]  A meeting was held a couple of weeks ago in Florida with big executive figures specifically to discuss how they enter this space.
[01:32:00]  So we've heard quite a bit after the election that they needed their new, they needed their own Joe Rogan on the left.
[01:32:06]  And there were concerns that older people are voters and they have this big block, but they're now recognizing that they've got only a couple years left where they can still sell ads to old people who have money.
[01:32:19]  So there was a meeting that took place with a bunch of executives who intentionally met just to talk to each other about how they solve this problem.
[01:32:28]  So here's what you can expect.
[01:32:30]  Big shows like, let's just go with Joe Rogan.
[01:32:34]  He's the king of the castle, right?
[01:32:35]  Don't be surprised if, and I'm not saying there's anything I know about this.
[01:32:40]  I'm not saying Joe would actually do this.
[01:32:41]  I'm just saying, I would not be surprised if a year from now we find out that like Comcast bought the Joe Rogan experience.
[01:32:49]  And they're like now airing on NBC at 9 p.m.
[01:32:53]  They wish they could, but I mean, if they can show three hours, though, how are they going to do that?
[01:32:58]  They put the first hour on live and then they say the last two hours are exclusive at NBC Plus.
[01:33:02]  Yeah, I mean, they could do it that way.
[01:33:03]  And they've already got Bill Maher on Paramount.
[01:33:05]  I think he's on Paramount, right?
[01:33:06]  I think.
[01:33:06]  No, no, no, he's on Ajan Max.
[01:33:08]  He's on HBO.
[01:33:08]  The podcast that he does in his basement?
[01:33:10]  No, real time.
[01:33:10]  Oh, yeah.
[01:33:11]  I know that's HBO, but I think his podcast is independent, I thought.
[01:33:15]  Yeah.
[01:33:15]  It's his own company.
[01:33:16]  Again, I would not be surprised if these big companies start to, well, actually, I will say this.
[01:33:24]  Like Jimmy Kimmel, we all make fun of his ratings being bad.
[01:33:27]  He gets a lot of play on YouTube, but these are just clips.
[01:33:30]  They need long form.
[01:33:31]  And so my speculation right now is to consider, not that I know what's going to happen, Jimmy Kimmel might get a banger of an opening 10-minute, but that's not going to compete with the longer form stuff that you see from the likes of Rogan and the podcast space, where they've done these massive $100 million deals with like Travis Kelsey and like Call Her Daddy, which means they're going to need a show that is conversational long form style for their premium platforms.
[01:33:58]  And it's not going to be Jimmy Kimmel.
[01:34:00]  I wouldn't, considering that the TV model of the 9 p.m. live is basically out and primetime is dying, no one's really watching these live kind of shows.
[01:34:09]  You know, the question is, does Timcast IRL need to be live?
[01:34:12]  Most of the people who watch watch afterwards as VOD.
[01:34:15]  So we just are live because it's convenient for people.
[01:34:17]  They want to hang out.
[01:34:19]  But I think what we'll end up seeing is, or I should say this, I would not be surprised if take a look at any one of these big lefty podcasts, if they buy them and then put them on the air.
[01:34:31]  Like, what's his name?
[01:34:33]  In 20 years, Hassan will be on MSN, Brian Taylor Cohen or something like that.
[01:34:37]  Yeah, and Taylor Cohen.
[01:34:38]  And it's going to be conversational, long form, hour long with probably not commercial breaks, probably it's going to be, you're going to be watching quote unquote TV, but TV's dead.
[01:34:49]  They're just going to have, Netflix is already doing this.
[01:34:51]  What am I even talking about?
[01:34:52]  Have you guys gone to Netflix recently?
[01:34:54]  They have a podcast section now, and they bought a bunch of podcasts.
[01:34:57]  And to be honest.
[01:34:58]  Anybody worth naming?
[01:34:59]  Nobody you've heard of.
[01:35:00]  Okay.
[01:35:01]  And so I say this.
[01:35:03]  I pay attention to all of the media industry.
[01:35:06]  I run a business.
[01:35:06]  So I'm constantly tracking trends, ad rates, all that stuff.
[01:35:10]  And I go on Netflix and I look at their podcast and I'm like, I've not heard of any one of these guys.
[01:35:14]  But it makes sense because the strategy has always been like this.
[01:35:17]  Let me tell you the urban legend of Green Day.
[01:35:18]  You guys want to hear the urban legend of Green Day?
[01:35:20]  Sure.
[01:35:20]  The urban legend goes like this.
[01:35:21]  And actually, Phil, you can probably attest to this better than I could.
[01:35:24]  The label, I can't remember which label they were signed to, signed 15 bands that were identical to Green Day.
[01:35:31]  It was the pop punk era.
[01:35:33]  It was the late 80s, early 90s.
[01:35:35]  And they said, look at these bands that are popping up and getting a lot of attention playing pop punk.
[01:35:38]  Sign them all.
[01:35:40]  Then, whichever one makes it to the top of the mountain, we blast them off and we do the bigger deal with them and we promote them.
[01:35:47]  And so the general idea was instead of looking for big established artists and doing massive contracts, sign a bunch of tiny artists at dirt deals and then try and find which one is the diamond in the rough that you can turn into a big prize.
[01:36:00]  And Green Day had a smashing hit with Dookie and what was the, what was the other next, what was after Dookie?
[01:36:07]  I don't know what you mean.
[01:36:08]  I don't know.
[01:36:08]  Anyway, you get the point.
[01:36:09]  Like, Green Day nailed it.
[01:36:10]  They took off.
[01:36:12]  And so the labels were like, okay, all these other little ones were worthless.
[01:36:15]  We didn't care.
[01:36:15]  The strategy is likely going to be the same.
[01:36:17]  The big networks don't care about shows like ours because we're established and make a lot of money.
[01:36:21]  Why bother?
[01:36:22]  Right now is the opportunity to buy 10 small podcasts and then give a little light sprinkling of marketing, see which one bubbles up a little bit, and then dump your marketing budget into them.
[01:36:32]  And then you own 100% of it.
[01:36:35]  I feel like they're already doing that, you know, giving out record deals.
[01:36:38]  I mean, they've done that for ages with record deals.
[01:36:40]  Right.
[01:36:41]  That's the play.
[01:36:41]  You sign a bunch of small dirt artists for cheap, and then whichever one takes off is your moneymaker and you own everything.
[01:36:48]  Like I think we talked, we were talking about this, Phil.
[01:36:50]  I think the story with Paramore was that Haley Williams signed a 360 deal for 20 years.
[01:36:56]  I don't know full details, but this meant that literally anything she ever did was owned by the label for 20 years.
[01:37:02]  360 means they get a piece of the merch, they get a piece of the public, they get publishing, they get ownership of all the music, basically anything that artist does for however long the term 20 years.
[01:37:13]  It's like, you want to be famous?
[01:37:14]  Okay, we get 20 years of everything.
[01:37:15]  But she does get 20 years of consistent pay no matter, but not when she's smashing it and doing stadiums, making millions of dollars, and she's only getting paid hundreds of dollars.
[01:37:23]  The way they talk about it is they say, well, we sign, we sign, we like to sign artists for the life of the artist.
[01:37:28]  Right.
[01:37:29]  If they can get you for 20 years for 10 records, they'll do that.
[01:37:32]  Because from the label's perspective, they're like, well, we don't know if you're actually going to be famous.
[01:37:36]  We don't know if you're actually going to write stuff that's good.
[01:37:37]  So we'll sign you and we'll put this money into you.
[01:37:40]  So we want to make sure that we have your catalog and have you on long enough to actually.
[01:37:44]  You know how evil these people are?
[01:37:45]  You know, Michael Jackson was innocent.
[01:37:47]  Tell me about it.
[01:37:47]  You know, he was framed 100%.
[01:37:50]  Even Wade Robinson and James Safechuck, the two people that said that they were molested in the documentary.
[01:37:55]  One, Wade Robinson was his lead character witness in not one case, but two court cases where Michael Jackson was totally exonerated, never charged, investigated for 19 years.
[01:38:04]  And that's what they said.
[01:38:05]  That's the reason why Conrad Murray killed him because Sony wanted to get all of his originals because he had like the largest personal collection.
[01:38:11]  He had the Beatles.
[01:38:12]  He owned the Beatles.
[01:38:13]  So it's just very suspicious.
[01:38:15]  These labels will literally kill their artists.
[01:38:17]  Michael Jackson bought Paul McCartney's Beatles and the Beatles.
[01:38:23]  I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan.
[01:38:24]  I'm just a little bit surprised hearing this come from you because I feel like you'd be able to work a lot of innocent.
[01:38:31]  And even the one settlement he paid to Jordy Chandler, they were going to fight it, but it was just easier to pay him because there was no criminal charge with it.
[01:38:38]  So it was just easier to pay the guy and make him go away.
[01:38:41]  And on top of that, Jordy Chandler's stepdad, who's the one that kind of motivated Jordy to say all this, ended up dying under mysterious circumstances, like did a suicide and quit his job as a dentist.
[01:38:49]  Like totally spiraled out.
[01:38:51]  But if you just look at Wade Robinson, that's the guy that was in the, you know, the key guy in the documentary, Leaving Neverland.
[01:38:56]  Literally, he dated Michael Jackson's cousin after his death, was at his funeral, like loved the guy, defended him in multiple court cases, and then all of a sudden he's dead.
[01:39:04]  He's like, oh, yeah, he molested me trying to get there were some weird circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson, though, despite well, Macaulay Colkin and you know Corey Feldman both slept at his house with him and said nothing weird happened.
[01:39:15]  I do believe that he was a little bizarre.
[01:39:16]  They arrested development, but I wouldn't know what it's like to be like a superstar celebrity at five.
[01:39:19]  Sure, but if Epstein were to do those things and just have some people sleep over my house and he was guilty of Michael Jackson was not.
[01:39:27]  I just because Michael Jackson was investigated by the FBI.
[01:39:30]  He never went to jail.
[01:39:31]  So if there was any evidence that could have nailed him, I think they would have nailed him.
[01:39:34]  Michael Jackson was very likely that Michael Jackson was innocent, like didn't do anything.
[01:39:39]  Now, what about R. Kelly?

=== Placentophagy Controversy (15:26) ===

[01:39:40]  Oh, no, he urinated.
[01:39:41]  Oh, he's guilty.
[01:39:42]  Yeah.
[01:39:43]  You didn't see the tape?
[01:39:44]  I thought you've never seen him.
[01:39:45]  No, I didn't watch it.
[01:39:46]  Well, I have it on my phone if you want to watch it.
[01:39:48]  You have it on your phone.
[01:39:50]  I'm a big R. Kelly.
[01:39:51]  Wait, wait, she was an underage child.
[01:39:53]  No, she wasn't, I don't think.
[01:39:54]  Well, I don't have it on my phone.
[01:39:55]  That's a joke.
[01:39:57]  This guy.
[01:39:57]  Was she underage in that?
[01:39:58]  The girl in the I don't know.
[01:39:59]  I don't say, well, add a legend.
[01:40:01]  Well, otherwise, wait, what would be illegal about it then if she wasn't underage?
[01:40:05]  Oh, I guess maybe she was.
[01:40:06]  Well, maybe I haven't seen the video, but I could have sworn I've seen that video.
[01:40:08]  But you don't really know.
[01:40:09]  That's a disgusting thing.
[01:40:11]  I don't really have that on my phone.
[01:40:12]  Oh, my gosh.
[01:40:12]  That is a bad joke.
[01:40:14]  Well, I thought he just peed on a woman of age.
[01:40:16]  I forgot that it was a child.
[01:40:17]  I understand correctly.
[01:40:18]  It was an underage person.
[01:40:20]  It was an underage person?
[01:40:21]  I think so.
[01:40:21]  I think it was like 17.
[01:40:22]  Okay, well, I've not seen it.
[01:40:23]  I was just making a bad joke, but I didn't.
[01:40:26]  How did you have more in common with Epstein than you thought?
[01:40:28]  He did pee on somebody.
[01:40:29]  No, I don't.
[01:40:30]  I know you both have this type of human being.
[01:40:31]  You're the one that's defending Epstein.
[01:40:33]  I don't understand.
[01:40:33]  That's the hill you want to die on.
[01:40:35]  What do you mean by defending him?
[01:40:36]  No, I just think there's.
[01:40:37]  Oh, it doesn't seem like it's that connected.
[01:40:39]  It doesn't seem like there's that much information to really connect them.
[01:40:42]  Like, we don't see anybody that's guilty.
[01:40:43]  Like, you had to have heard yourself.
[01:40:45]  There's way more evidence incriminating Epstein than there was.
[01:40:49]  No, I think you over-promise on a lot of the Epstein stuff to make it more salacious, to sound like a more sexy shit.
[01:40:55]  No, it's salacious enough.
[01:40:56]  I think it's salacious enough, but I think you need to go through.
[01:40:58]  I don't think they're eating children.
[01:40:59]  You don't think that's, and I don't think there's much evidence of that either.
[01:41:03]  Do you think cannibalism exists?
[01:41:04]  I do think cannibalism exists.
[01:41:05]  I don't think there's evidence of him doing that.
[01:41:07]  But when you think those people aren't, when you start tacking on hyperbolic, when you start tacking on all this extra bullshit, it really mutters on that water.
[01:41:13]  It muddies the water of the legitimate life.
[01:41:15]  Why are you personally, even if people said that he's an astronaut, why do you even care?
[01:41:19]  Like, it's weird that you get buttons.
[01:41:21]  Because it muddies the water of the legitimate story.
[01:41:23]  There's a legitimate story to be had here.
[01:41:25]  No, you want to tack on a bunch of extra random bullshit to make it sound more salacious.
[01:41:28]  That's the issue.
[01:41:29]  I'm not going to be with Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:41:29]  I think it's so good.
[01:41:31]  Dude, you would have on his side.
[01:41:32]  He admitted it.
[01:41:33]  He admitted it.
[01:41:33]  I heard it.
[01:41:34]  I heard that.
[01:41:35]  You argue that they have been defending him, dude.
[01:41:36]  You sound like such a shill.
[01:41:38]  It's ridiculous.
[01:41:38]  You're like, literally, no, no, no.
[01:41:39]  I want evidence.
[01:41:40]  I want evidence-based accusations.
[01:41:43]  You don't care about any evidence.
[01:41:44]  You will accuse anybody of anything.
[01:41:46]  There's three million children.
[01:41:47]  Just because they're emailing about jerky doesn't mean they're eating children.
[01:41:49]  It doesn't make sense.
[01:41:51]  Prime Minister, he's with the most important people in the world and they're sending off.
[01:41:54]  Therefore, they're eating children.
[01:41:56]  I would say that they probably worship the devil.
[01:41:57]  A lot of these people that are in high, powerful positions like that.
[01:42:00]  Yes.
[01:42:00]  And I would think that they do satanic rituals.
[01:42:02]  Dude, so have you ever heard of like skull and bones?
[01:42:04]  Yeah.
[01:42:05]  They went and what did they go?
[01:42:06]  That proves it.
[01:42:06]  They went and stole Geronimo's skull.
[01:42:08]  I'm saying, so what they do is they do weird stuff with bones and bodies.
[01:42:11]  I know that you can't understand that.
[01:42:14]  You're too young.
[01:42:14]  You don't get that these people are actually evil and they do do weird rituals.
[01:42:17]  There's a guy named Aleister Crowley.
[01:42:19]  You should look him up.
[01:42:20]  A famous occultist.
[01:42:21]  And people would go to Hollywood parties where they would literally do spirit cooking.
[01:42:25]  You looked up Marina Abramovich.
[01:42:27]  You know who Amarina Abramovich is?
[01:42:28]  No, Tom.
[01:42:29]  She's a famous spirit cooker, and part of her art is doing spirit cooking where they get blood and piss and semen and they write words on the wall and they summon devils.
[01:42:37]  And she's been on Microsoft commercials.
[01:42:39]  Do they actually summon devils or they try to summon it?
[01:42:41]  They try to.
[01:42:42]  I would argue that if God is real, which I do believe, then there are evil spirits.
[01:42:46]  So the devil's real.
[01:42:48]  Before I go to super chats, I want to ask you about this.
[01:42:50]  So Kalshi's got this thing.
[01:42:52]  We were talking about this earlier with aliens.
[01:42:53]  Will the U.S. confirm that aliens exist before 2027?
[01:42:57]  And right now, yes, at 17 cents.
[01:42:59]  So if I vote no and I put in 100 grand, I will make $19,000 this year.
[01:43:07]  20 grand.
[01:43:09]  That'd be a good time to get in with all the hyper on these aliens.
[01:43:13]  What do you think?
[01:43:14]  Let's put $1,000 just right now, just for fun.
[01:43:16]  Just put $1,000.
[01:43:18]  I'll get $191 at the end of the year.
[01:43:20]  $200.
[01:43:21]  Those are better margins than my bank.
[01:43:25]  Do you think they're going to be able to do that?
[01:43:26]  You fade it.
[01:43:26]  You say no.
[01:43:27]  You fade it.
[01:43:28]  If you say.
[01:43:32]  We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chats.
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[01:44:08]  But for now, let's grab your Rumble Rants and Super Chats.
[01:44:11]  Lee G. Tet says, what, oh, it says legit.
[01:44:15]  Legit ET.
[01:44:16]  Is that what it's supposed to say?
[01:44:17]  What do you call, what do you cam?
[01:44:20]  What do you cam a magician?
[01:44:21]  I think he means call, who has lost all his magic.
[01:44:24]  Answer Ian.
[01:44:25]  Oh, Ian's not even here to defend himself.
[01:44:27]  Come on, man.
[01:44:29]  J Dev says, Masad Elad, Shush, we are onto the elites and the satanic ring of evil.
[01:44:36]  Go get him, guys.
[01:44:37]  Go get him.
[01:44:38]  You see, I think these people won't be satisfied until what bullshit you put out in the ether about the Epstein files is true.
[01:44:45]  I just don't know what your motivation is to defend him at all.
[01:44:48]  I'm not defending him.
[01:44:49]  I just think we should have.
[01:44:50]  It seems like you are defending him.
[01:44:50]  I mean, that's what it looks like.
[01:44:51]  You're defending him.
[01:44:53]  I think we should have facts and evidence for things before we go out with pieces of evidence.
[01:44:58]  Did you see the email where Jeffrey Epstein admitted that he was an alien from the video that they watched torture porn?
[01:45:04]  Dude, did you hear the subject?
[01:45:06]  Why are you changing the subject?
[01:45:09]  Because aliens are not.
[01:45:10]  That's really weird.
[01:45:11]  Whoa, Why are you defending Epstein?
[01:45:13]  I'm not defending Epstein.
[01:45:14]  What do you mean?
[01:45:14]  What do you mean?
[01:45:15]  They're doing his emails.
[01:45:17]  They're doing emails where they're saying they're aliens and you're dismissing it because I think you're covering up for aliens.
[01:45:20]  So he's emailing these Saudi Arabian guys saying, oh, did you like the torture video?
[01:45:24]  Do you think that was...
[01:45:25]  I mean, I'm not surprised that they watch a lot of torture videos.
[01:45:28]  What do you mean?
[01:45:28]  He's watching snuff porn.
[01:45:29]  Yeah.
[01:45:29]  Like a ton of it on the internet.
[01:45:30]  But here's the thing.
[01:45:31]  Like, I don't think any reasonable person reading those jerky emails can't, any rational person could come to the conclusion that he's talking about eating kids.
[01:45:38]  But the fact that you're ranking a lot of people.
[01:45:41]  Okay, now I'll address the point that you made.
[01:45:43]  I don't think any rational person would come to the conclusion they're talking about eating jerky either.
[01:45:46]  Okay, fair.
[01:45:47]  But I don't think there's any evidence of them eating churches.
[01:45:50]  That was my point that you're jumping the gun to claim children.
[01:45:54]  Maybe it's people we don't know, but they're certainly not talking about beef jerky.
[01:45:57]  That's weird.
[01:45:57]  It just split the difference.
[01:45:58]  Just humans.
[01:45:59]  Well, we don't know humans either.
[01:46:01]  We just know it's not jerky because that's weird.
[01:46:03]  And it would be, that's the joke.
[01:46:04]  It would be funny if they were actually making jerky because it's hard to believe.
[01:46:07]  Dude, I think there's a lot of emails, and there's a chance he was talking about jerky.
[01:46:13]  That's not to say that he wasn't a pedophile and Glene Maxwell didn't, you know, procure young women for him to sexually assault and that he wasn't convicted in 2008 and got a plea deal in Florida.
[01:46:23]  That doesn't mean he wasn't involved with a lot of famous people after the fact who are willing to work with him after he was found out to be a pedophile.
[01:46:29]  But all this extra stuff really dilutes the real story.
[01:46:33]  And it's a crazy website.
[01:46:36]  Let's read some more.
[01:46:36]  Let's read some more.
[01:46:37]  We got this from NNY.
[01:46:41]  Re-Pam Bondi at hearing.
[01:46:43]  Asmund Gold was right.
[01:46:44]  Better than even odds, you can go to a random ASU sorority party, find some entitled, arrogant, drunk blonde, and she would be smarter than Bondi.
[01:46:54]  Well, you know, that's hyperbolic, but funny.
[01:46:57]  What I would say is Pam Bondi is not doing her job very well.
[01:47:01]  That's the academic way to put it.
[01:47:03]  Like, doesn't she have like great pedagogy on that?
[01:47:05]  I mean, that's academic.
[01:47:06]  No, I'm being academic.
[01:47:07]  I mean, dude, she's literally like retarded.
[01:47:10]  I mean, and she was at the AG of Florida when Epstein got the sweetheart deal.
[01:47:13]  So it seems like, you know, she's guilty of something.
[01:47:16]  I don't know what.
[01:47:17]  I mean, if you accuse her of a crime, she'll get really mad.
[01:47:19]  But she doesn't care about getting more transparency when all this comes out because you're going to find out more information that she was connected to Epstein all the way back in the Florida days.
[01:47:26]  So she's been abysmal at her job and she's been really interested.
[01:47:30]  All right, here we go.
[01:47:30]  This is Fish Relex.
[01:47:31]  Van Rui says, Alex, what do you think the odds are that the jerky mentioned could possibly be placenta made into jerky?
[01:47:37]  I bet 100%.
[01:47:38]  Also, keep saving those big booty latinas.
[01:47:40]  AOC wants you.
[01:47:41]  I'll never stop.
[01:47:42]  You guys know about how they do the rich, the rich people hire young guys to give them their blood.
[01:47:46]  Yeah, blood boys.
[01:47:47]  Blood boys.
[01:47:48]  No.
[01:47:49]  Silicon Valley.
[01:47:51]  No.
[01:47:51]  It's a common, it's very common.
[01:47:52]  Wealthy Silicon Valley dudes, they hire young men, like 18, 19-year-olds, to be bodybuilders and to eat specific diets so they have really good, healthy bodies.
[01:48:02]  You can't do drugs.
[01:48:02]  And then, yeah, you can't do drugs and you got to eat a specific diet, like vegetables and protein, no sugars, and then they do a blood transfusion with you.
[01:48:09]  Wow.
[01:48:09]  So that the old, old guy gets the fresh young man's blood.
[01:48:12]  And here's the truth.
[01:48:14]  Young person's blood does rejuvenate old people's organs.
[01:48:18]  Legit.
[01:48:18]  Yeah, it does.
[01:48:19]  So like these older guys will get a blood transition from a young guy.
[01:48:22]  Their organs are actually like de-aging.
[01:48:25]  Fascinating.
[01:48:26]  This is a fact that they do this.
[01:48:28]  So when you get these wack-aloons being like in the media claiming that the conspiracy theories are fake, how you thought I was going the other way.
[01:48:34]  The media is like, it's not true.
[01:48:35]  The conspiracy theories about rich people eating babies or whatever.
[01:48:37]  No, no, no, hold on.
[01:48:39]  We know they have blood boys.
[01:48:40]  They admit that openly.
[01:48:41]  You think they're not doing anything else?
[01:48:43]  Like, bro, look at that.
[01:48:44]  With all due respect, the only weirdo guy who wants to live forever that I respect is Brian Johnson.
[01:48:51]  Because at least he's just like, I'm just eating food and doing weird stuff and taking the blood from my son.
[01:48:56]  You know, he's not hiring anybody to do it.
[01:48:59]  Well, if you take it from anybody, I think you're scared.
[01:49:00]  That's what he's doing, right?
[01:49:01]  That's a fair game, yeah.
[01:49:02]  But there are benefits to it.
[01:49:03]  And these people even take it further, though.
[01:49:05]  They actually believe that the blood has anti-aging benefits.
[01:49:08]  Oh, okay.
[01:49:08]  Okay, I'm sorry.
[01:49:09]  Brian Johnson has discontinued using his then 17-year-old son, his son's plasma for anti-aging.
[01:49:16]  He got too old.
[01:49:18]  Well, the younger the blood, the more potent it is for your organs.
[01:49:21]  That is Brian Johnson, the guy who wants to live forever, was taking his own son's blood.
[01:49:28]  You know, like, I'm just imagining his son, like, hooked up to a wall.
[01:49:31]  Like, Brian Johnson's all ripped and like glistening, and his son has a tube coming from his arm, and he's like wasting away, like, father, please.
[01:49:37]  Well, the kid's fine, actually, because you just rejuvenate the blood, so it's really not that big a deal.
[01:49:41]  Yeah, but there's only a finite amount of cellular division that could happen.
[01:49:44]  So I imagine if you're taking someone's blood, you're actually hurting them.
[01:49:46]  Yeah, I mean, I guess you would say their telomeres are a little shortened, but theoretically, like, if you're super healthy, I don't think it would, I don't think it would lessen your lifespan that much to give somebody blood.
[01:49:55]  I don't think that makes sense, though.
[01:49:56]  You don't think?
[01:49:57]  Well, people give blood all the time.
[01:49:58]  They donate blood all the time.
[01:49:59]  Pine.
[01:50:00]  Indeed.
[01:50:00]  And I have to imagine that it's deleterious.
[01:50:02]  I would agree.
[01:50:03]  Actually, I would agree.
[01:50:04]  Because even when I give blood for a blood test, I'm like, this seems like a lot of blood.
[01:50:07]  Your body has to do work.
[01:50:08]  Cells have to replicate.
[01:50:10]  And there's a finite amount of cellular replication that your body can engage in.
[01:50:14]  So giving away your blood probably shortens your lifespan.
[01:50:18]  Yeah, probably just not that much.
[01:50:20]  Right.
[01:50:21]  Depending on the factors of how you take care of yourself.
[01:50:24]  Indeed.
[01:50:25]  All right.
[01:50:26]  What have we here?
[01:50:27]  Lewis Unlimited says they're eating human placenta from their baby farm.
[01:50:30]  My wife didn't want her, so I cooked it up.
[01:50:32]  Tastes like jerky, texture and all.
[01:50:34]  See, that's the cannibal.
[01:50:36]  In the chat.
[01:50:39]  Guilty.
[01:50:40]  If you are interested, giving blood too often does not shorten your lifespan.
[01:50:44]  Whoa, that's what it is.
[01:50:46]  It can be associated with longer life expectancy.
[01:50:48]  Google AI says human placenta can be prepared to look and taste similar to jerky, and it is a known method of consumption.
[01:50:55]  It's called placentophagy.
[01:50:58]  It is actually a known thing that some people do.
[01:51:01]  Bro, that's probably what they were doing.
[01:51:02]  Got a lot of stem cells in it, right?
[01:51:04]  Yeah, that's part of it.
[01:51:05]  That's what they were doing, bro.
[01:51:06]  They like stem cells.
[01:51:08]  And, you know, you were joking about Ellen DeGeneres.
[01:51:11]  Does she eat people?
[01:51:12]  There's actually a famous video where they're talking about how she's with the who's the gosh, who's the famous actress that was from, what's the movie with a bus where the bus gets taken?
[01:51:22]  Speed.
[01:51:23]  What's that actress name?
[01:51:26]  Sandra Bullock.
[01:51:27]  She said that she rubs baby penis on her face.
[01:51:30]  That's true, though.
[01:51:31]  They make that cream.
[01:51:32]  So if you're going to rub the foreskins of a baby's penis on your face, you don't think that they would broke your mouth?
[01:51:37]  I think I found another one.
[01:51:38]  How is that that?
[01:51:38]  Hey, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[01:51:39]  We got one.
[01:51:40]  We got one.
[01:51:40]  I think I found something.
[01:51:44]  What'd you find?
[01:51:45]  There's an email.
[01:51:45]  It says, hey, Jeff, I'm staying in New York for a while in good rhythm with Torah, working and eating healthy.
[01:51:49]  I started making those smoothie drink recipes your friend sent me really good.
[01:51:53]  Another common form of placenta consumption is to dehydrate it and blend it into smoothies.
[01:51:59]  That's what Google says.
[01:52:00]  I'm not even playing.
[01:52:01]  Google says it's more commonly dehydrated, ground into powder, and put blended into smoothies.
[01:52:07]  Legit.
[01:52:08]  That's what it says.
[01:52:09]  Could these just be dumb everyday emails about him talking to his peers about like smoothie?
[01:52:14]  If it's placenta, it's actually significantly less nefarious than children.
[01:52:19]  But there's no reference of the placenta.
[01:52:20]  I mean, and he has millions of emails.
[01:52:24]  What would you like me to bring from New York?
[01:52:26]  A smoothie.
[01:52:27]  That's right.
[01:52:28]  I'm in New York.
[01:52:28]  I'm going to fly in your jet and bring a strawberry smoothie.
[01:52:32]  Doesn't make sense as it would melt.
[01:52:38]  Yo, there are a bunch of smoothie.
[01:52:40]  Yeah.
[01:52:40]  Like, why would you think that a placenta would actually be nefarious?
[01:52:45]  Bro, what is it?
[01:52:46]  Smoothies got so curious about them.
[01:52:48]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:49]  What?
[01:52:49]  You know, circumstances or something.
[01:52:50]  You know, maybe it wasn't just like a loving family doing the placenta for the dad or whatever.
[01:52:55]  I don't think that eating the placenta.
[01:52:57]  It could be from like an like, you know, I'm just saying, I said this earlier.
[01:53:00]  There are instances where Planned Parenthood employees have stolen baby food.
[01:53:04]  Yeah, but you're also like, if you've got a baby that's, that's aborted, there's not, the placenta is still really small, right?
[01:53:12]  Like the placenta.
[01:53:13]  I don't know.
[01:53:13]  I'm not sure.
[01:53:15]  The same person who was emailing about jerky was emailing about smoothies too.
[01:53:19]  There you go.
[01:53:21]  There you go.
[01:53:22]  I guess it's settled.
[01:53:23]  We're eating children through jerky and we're eating.
[01:53:28]  It literally is on Google AI.
[01:53:30]  I am not making anything up.
[01:53:32]  Human placenta can be prepared to look and taste like jerky.
[01:53:34]  It's placentophagy.
[01:53:35]  Alternative preparation rather than jerky.
[01:53:37]  It's more commonly dehydrated, ground into powder, and put into capsules or blended into smoothies.
[01:53:41]  And the same people who are talking about eating jerky are talking about making smoothies as well and flying them from New York to the island, which makes no sense.
[01:53:48]  Now, I'm not saying that's literally what's happening, but this is a preponderance of evidence, meaning it's worth investigating.
[01:53:53]  Is that the case?
[01:53:54]  Because why would you fly a smoothie from New York to the island?
[01:53:57]  We're not talking about Justin Hammer from Iron Man where he's sitting in the hangar being like, like my dessert.
[01:54:03]  I like my dessert first.
[01:54:04]  I flew it in.
[01:54:05]  It's Italian.
[01:54:06]  That's not normal.
[01:54:06]  People don't really do that.
[01:54:08]  Jeffrey Rebson didn't have a lady make a smoothie with strawberries and bananas, put it in a cooler, started by a dry ice, and fly to the island so he can enjoy it.
[01:54:15]  He could literally just buy that stuff and put it in his freezer there.
[01:54:18]  This was something else.
[01:54:19]  I'm not saying it's placentas or babies, but it's worth looking into.
[01:54:22]  They're using codes in their emails because what same person thinks people are literally having this much beef and jerky.
[01:54:28]  I agree with you.
[01:54:29]  These emails are odd.
[01:54:30]  However, I don't think this is evidence of them eating babies.
[01:54:33]  And I think you just said earlier.
[01:54:36]  That's what Alex Stein was saying.
[01:54:37]  I'm going to stop you right now.
[01:54:38]  I'm going to stop you right now because my point is that Google is talking about in placentophagy.
[01:54:44]  People do this, and you challenged my claim, not what he was saying about eating babies.
[01:54:49]  I'm saying, interesting, Google is talking about people who eat placenta make jerky and smoothies.
[01:54:55]  And I went to Jeffrey Epstein's emails, and there are emails about people flying smoothies from New York to the island.
[01:55:01]  And I said, that's weird.
[01:55:01]  Do you want to look at Placenta in the emails?
[01:55:04]  Do you want to see if they change your name to L.
[01:55:05]  Yeah, absolutely?

=== Stop Right Now! (15:44) ===

[01:55:06]  You took a big L tonight, Elod.
[01:55:08]  You took well, Alex.
[01:55:10]  You know, I'm frankly surprised that you don't think Erica Kirk's involved in the Charlie Kirk shooting.
[01:55:14]  Why are you changing the subject first of all?
[01:55:15]  And why do you think that's a good idea?
[01:55:17]  I'm making fun of you guys.
[01:55:17]  I'm making fun of you, Alex.
[01:55:19]  That's what's happening here.
[01:55:22]  I think that it's funny that that's where you draw the line as far as conspiracy theories go.
[01:55:25]  Talking about jerky in these emails, it definitely means that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies are eating children.
[01:55:30]  I don't know why you're trying to bring Erica Kirk into this.
[01:55:32]  I think that's bizarre.
[01:55:32]  I'm making fun of you.
[01:55:33]  I'm saying the line here drawing going back to other stories.
[01:55:37]  You're the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile apologist, and you won't admit it.
[01:55:40]  You think I'm a pedophile apologist?
[01:55:42]  Because I don't believe that the jerky references are talking about children.
[01:55:45]  No, I think it's specifically look better than he really is.
[01:55:49]  No, I think you use baselick accusations to make up BS for sensationalist BS.
[01:55:54]  I don't think they're baseless.
[01:55:55]  So that's, you know, my.
[01:55:56]  All right, guys, we're going to grab some more chats.
[01:55:58]  We're going to grab some more.
[01:55:59]  We can go to the uncensored show.
[01:56:00]  You guys can yell at each other there.
[01:56:02]  All right, let's see what we got going up here.
[01:56:03]  We got somebody.
[01:56:04]  What's this say?
[01:56:05]  Based Hafrican says, glad the hearings are finally being discussed here.
[01:56:09]  It's been big news for a week, and I was worried y'all would pass on it.
[01:56:12]  Bondi's pattering was unacceptable.
[01:56:15]  Only explanation is that the admin is lying for some reason, be it malicious or for foreign affairs.
[01:56:20]  Did you guys see that one dude who's like, Trump's doing 4D chess, where he's purposefully antagonizing the Epstein people to make everybody talk about it?
[01:56:28]  And I'm like, yeah, I think that's more accidental.
[01:56:30]  I don't think Trump is intentionally trying to goad people into talking about Epstein files.
[01:56:34]  It's 4D chess, man.
[01:56:35]  5D.
[01:56:37]  Well, I mean, the Dow is.
[01:56:38]  So I don't know why we are even talking about it.
[01:56:40]  I think we just need to worry about our portfolio.
[01:56:42]  So that's kind of where I'm at.
[01:56:43]  I'm in the Pan Bondi camp.
[01:56:44]  Personally, I can't wait till the after show to listen to Elod yellow.
[01:56:47]  Plus, five.
[01:56:47]  Hopefully, we'll get into Steve Bannon's emails.
[01:56:49]  Okay.
[01:56:50]  I love that you want to talk about Steve Bannon.
[01:56:52]  I don't think Steve Bannon is great that he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, but in those emails that I've read, it doesn't seem like they're talking about jerky.
[01:56:58]  It doesn't seem like they're talking about child porn.
[01:57:00]  So to me, it seems like he was trying to rehabilitate his career.
[01:57:03]  Yeah, how come there's nothing to rehabilitate?
[01:57:06]  I don't know.
[01:57:06]  How come there's nothing in the emails about hiring child prostitutes?
[01:57:10]  Well, I think there is some weird stuff about like.
[01:57:12]  No, no, no, no, I'll tell you why.
[01:57:15]  How about you stop and let me finish my point?
[01:57:18]  There are emails that are euphemistic.
[01:57:21]  There are also euphemistic emails about jerky and smoothies.
[01:57:24]  The point is, they don't explicitly say, hey, they're hiring child prostitutes.
[01:57:29]  Okay.
[01:57:29]  The point is, all of it is coded.
[01:57:33]  I would agree.
[01:57:34]  Okay.
[01:57:35]  What's your point?
[01:57:36]  You know what is or isn't coded, and I'll tell you why they didn't mention children or any of these emails.
[01:57:40]  Why?
[01:57:40]  Because they mentioned jerky instead.
[01:57:41]  So all these mentions of jerky are obviously talking about children.
[01:57:44]  That's what you really think.
[01:57:45]  No, I'm making fun of you guys.
[01:57:46]  How you're making fun of me?
[01:57:47]  Because I think it's ridiculous.
[01:57:48]  I think these accusations of smoothies and stuff.
[01:57:51]  Why are you so like...
[01:57:53]  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[01:57:55]  You're getting a little bit of a shot.
[01:57:55]  Let me lay it down like this.
[01:57:57]  Okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:57:59]  Important point.
[01:58:00]  I don't agree that the jerky means they're eating people or children.
[01:58:02]  We don't know what it means.
[01:58:03]  Elod, you are getting very, very angry, and you have been the whole time angry over people wanting the Epstein files released.
[01:58:11]  Which is weird.
[01:58:12]  The whole time.
[01:58:13]  And you've been like, Trump's right.
[01:58:14]  This is a distraction.
[01:58:15]  We shouldn't talk about it.
[01:58:16]  And now I can say this.
[01:58:17]  A rational person looks at Epstein's conversation around jerky and says, that is not about jerky.
[01:58:23]  I don't know what it is.
[01:58:24]  And then you go, I'm going to make fun of you for asking that question.
[01:58:27]  I already said that I think a lot of these emails are.
[01:58:29]  Why did you say I'm making fun of you for thinking that?
[01:58:32]  Because you guys are ascribing crazy things.
[01:58:35]  No, no, no, no.
[01:58:36]  Stop, Elod.
[01:58:37]  Because I don't think so.
[01:58:37]  I'm telling you explicitly.
[01:58:38]  No, Hold on, hold on.
[01:58:39]  No, no, no.
[01:58:40]  I have never stated that they're eating children.
[01:58:43]  Okay.
[01:58:43]  So stop saying to me that I said through smoothies.
[01:58:46]  Through this reference that you did that.
[01:58:48]  Didn't you bring up how the placentas.
[01:58:50]  I said Google pointed out that people pulverize placentas into smoothies.
[01:58:55]  And then you look at his conversations around smoothies and a sane person says regular people don't talk about it like that.
[01:59:01]  You keep going overboard.
[01:59:04]  This is what we see often with woke.
[01:59:06]  You take the point I'm making, exaggerate it, and then throw it back like it's not possible.
[01:59:11]  Overly defensive.
[01:59:12]  A rational person looks at Epstein's emails and says they are not speaking plainly.
[01:59:17]  Something else is going on.
[01:59:18]  When the Pizzagate emails came out and they said, is it better to, is it more fun having Doppling Domino's on pizza or on pasta?
[01:59:25]  Everyone went, they're clearly not talking about either of those three things.
[01:59:28]  But we don't know what they are talking about.
[01:59:30]  Now, the conspiracy theorists said they're talking about doing drugs with children, like banging children, which is an exaggeration.
[01:59:35]  We don't know exactly what they meant.
[01:59:37]  You're taking the other extreme end of everyone's crazy.
[01:59:39]  How dare you even bring it up?
[01:59:40]  That's not rational.
[01:59:41]  Can I respond?
[01:59:42]  It's irrational.
[01:59:43]  Okay, so I think people who are digging through these emails are unreliable narrators.
[01:59:47]  And these people are just picking and choosing based on whatever preconceived conspiracies that they have to read into these emails specifically.
[01:59:54]  That's the big issue with them.
[01:59:56]  So I'm making fun of Alex Stein.
[01:59:58]  What he says is he's reading into children being jerky emails.
[02:00:04]  If I can finish, you made your point.
[02:00:06]  I'm not done.
[02:00:07]  You're gish galloping.
[02:00:07]  No, I'm not gish galloping.
[02:00:08]  Yes, you are absolutely Alex.
[02:00:10]  You're not going to let me finish my point.
[02:00:11]  I'm not.
[02:00:12]  Okay, good.
[02:00:12]  Because you're making 15 at once.
[02:00:14]  Okay, you're gish galloping.
[02:00:15]  Okay.
[02:00:16]  You want to say one thing?
[02:00:17]  Alex Stein exaggerated the point and has no evidence to his claim.
[02:00:19]  Point done, one sentence.
[02:00:21]  Okay, when you say 15 things after the fact and don't let anybody respond, you're gish galloping.
[02:00:25]  I feel like I've given you ample opportunity to respond.
[02:00:28]  You still haven't let me.
[02:00:28]  You won't stop talking.
[02:00:30]  Tim, you've made a single point.
[02:00:34]  Make one point right now, one.
[02:00:36]  These people are unreliable narrators and reading into the Epstein film.
[02:00:39]  And stop.
[02:00:40]  Okay.
[02:00:41]  What's your point?
[02:00:42]  These are unreliable narrators making shit up to try to tart and feather their political opponents.
[02:00:47]  And now we'll go back to, do you think a rational person reads that conversation of Jerky and says that's a normal conversation?
[02:00:55]  No.
[02:00:55]  But I also think a rational person doesn't read that conversation and says, oh, there's a child eating pedophile sex ring.
[02:01:02]  Okay.
[02:01:02]  Well, I was directing you.
[02:01:04]  Well, Alex, so I'm directing this again.
[02:01:06]  You are taking an extreme position against Alex's extreme position.
[02:01:11]  You are being irrational.
[02:01:12]  I've already said.
[02:01:13]  What was my extreme position?
[02:01:15]  Tell me.
[02:01:16]  I have already said that Alex is reading too much into it.
[02:01:20]  That's my extreme position.
[02:01:21]  I'm making fun of you.
[02:01:22]  That is not a big deal.
[02:01:23]  I'm making fun of you, Tim for asking a question about why they're talking about flying a smoothie from New York to their island.
[02:01:30]  You got mad about that.
[02:01:32]  That is irrational.
[02:01:33]  Weird.
[02:01:34]  A regular person will go, why was he asking them to fly smoothies from New York to his island?
[02:01:41]  That's weird.
[02:01:42]  Sure.
[02:01:42]  Bro, I fly on private jets all the time.
[02:01:44]  We don't say, hey, get a bunch of smoothies and put them to cool and bring them on the jet.
[02:01:47]  That's the stupidest thing imaginable.
[02:01:49]  You're going to be in the jet for 40, 40 minutes to an hour.
[02:01:51]  It's going to melt and be worthless.
[02:01:52]  Unless you're talking about giving them out and eating them.
[02:01:53]  But he's on an island asking them to ferry something to him.
[02:01:56]  So it's fair to say they are talking about many things in these emails that are not what they're actually talking about.
[02:02:01]  I've submitted to you that there are already many odd emails in Jeffrey Epstein's files.
[02:02:05]  And you seem to be getting irrationally defensive when people bring up the Epstein files, and you have even before these emails came out.
[02:02:12]  Well, I'm trying to explain to you that this is all political theatrics.
[02:02:16]  Again, these people who are talking about these files, for the most part, are unreliable narrators and trying to tart and feather their political opponents.
[02:02:23]  Can I finish, please?
[02:02:24]  That's why some people are patrons.
[02:02:25]  All right, so I can't finish my point.
[02:02:27]  I'm not sure if Gish galloping.
[02:02:29]  There's people on both sides.
[02:02:31]  I've barely gotten a word in our conversation.
[02:02:32]  I'm not gish galloping at all.
[02:02:34]  Half of the people talking about these files are talking about how Trump is allegedly a pedophile.
[02:02:37]  Thomas Massey is coming out on these files, alleging people who aren't involved in anything of being pedophiles, and people are reading through these files.
[02:02:43]  Who?
[02:02:44]  So you made three points.
[02:02:46]  Yes.
[02:02:47]  And again, you can say, Thomas Massey made what claim?
[02:02:51]  He alleged like four people who weren't pedophiles were or were involved in Jeffrey Epstein's affairs.
[02:02:58]  I could read to you the names, but this is widely reported.
[02:03:00]  I'd need to pull up the news article.
[02:03:01]  Right.
[02:03:02]  So the issue I take specifically with you, and before we're about to go to the uncensored portion, is I am largely neutral on this in that I have been the whole time.
[02:03:12]  I've argued that Trump's concerns over the recently released of the Epstein files is that it's going to embarrass people who didn't commit crimes but did things that were untoward.
[02:03:20]  Or there's going to be people who are Saudi where in their country they're allowed to have sex with 15-year-old girls and that's going to get them screwed over seriously in the United States, which has actually happened now.
[02:03:28]  We're seeing, I think it was a Qatari or a Saudi.
[02:03:31]  I'm not sure.
[02:03:31]  I had to resign from the position or something because they can't work in the U.S. with these allegations.
[02:03:35]  I have never been on the jerky must-mean people, and I've argued against the pizza means boy and pasta means girls because I know for a fact that was fabricated.
[02:03:44]  However, maybe you're arguing with the wrong thing.
[02:03:46]  The files should be released.
[02:03:48]  Trump should not have called it a hoax.
[02:03:51]  Pam Bondi has done a terrible job of this.
[02:03:53]  Dan and Cash have flubbed this miserably as well.
[02:03:56]  And now we're getting more evidence, videos and pictures of children, little girls in bathtubs.
[02:04:01]  They're censored, but you can still tell it's a little girl in the bathtub that Epstein had for some reason.
[02:04:06]  Clearly, they have child abuse materials.
[02:04:08]  We now know that when they were like, no, no, there's no evidence that Epstein was trafficking to anyone else and Geelan was trafficking to Epstein.
[02:04:15]  We now know, but it's in these conversations, that is likely, a high degree of probability, not true.
[02:04:21]  People talking about going to parties.
[02:04:22]  Noam Chomsky saying, I want $500,000 for my marriage trust.
[02:04:27]  And they were like, did you mean 50 or 500?
[02:04:29]  And he goes, I mean 500.
[02:04:30]  What did Noam Chomsky do for Epstein on that island that warranted him getting a payment of $500,000?
[02:04:35]  It's all very weird stuff.
[02:04:37]  They are not doing normal things normal people do.
[02:04:39]  And Trump was trying to cover it up for whatever reason, calling it a hoax.
[02:04:43]  And my point for you, and we're going to the uncensored portion, again, I know we got to go, is that the whole time we've argued this, you said Massey is wrong and it's a distraction and it's bad faith.
[02:04:52]  And I'm like, why was Noam Chomsky saying I'm fantasizing about going on your island and you should give me 500 grand?
[02:04:58]  Why was Reid Hoffman saying I'm going to these parties?
[02:05:00]  Why were they saying torture videos?
[02:05:01]  Why are they talking about getting young girls, the naughty little ones?
[02:05:04]  Why wouldn't you name it?
[02:05:05]  For any very winged person who's allegedly implicated, though.
[02:05:07]  See, for example, all the people you haven't named him.
[02:05:11]  We talked about him on the show all last week.
[02:05:12]  I brought up several times.
[02:05:13]  And the people that you just named, Reid Hoffman, Noam Chomsky, my point is that when people are talking about these files, they're not talking about the whole of them.
[02:05:19]  They're just using it to tar and feather their political opponents.
[02:05:23]  Literally everybody who's talking about it.
[02:05:24]  Thomas Massey, Thomas Massey and Rokana.
[02:05:26]  Both of these people are not talking about it in the Epstein Files.
[02:05:30]  Name a right-wing person in the Epstein Files you're concerned about.
[02:05:32]  Steve Bannon.
[02:05:33]  Steve Bannon's not implicated in the Epstein files.
[02:05:35]  Steve Bannon's not implicated in the Epstein files for being trafficking children.
[02:05:38]  Sure, but he is implicated for being friends with a convicted pedophile post-2008.
[02:05:43]  And I'm not sure.
[02:05:44]  Which is the same thing that Pritzker, that Pritzker's cousin did.
[02:05:48]  He was only talking allegedly with Epstein post-2008.
[02:05:51]  And he was still forced to do it.
[02:05:53]  I cited the people who were presumed to be involved in trafficking.
[02:05:56]  There was an audience.
[02:05:57]  This is a bad faith.
[02:05:58]  This is a bad faith in the world.
[02:05:59]  No, it is.
[02:05:59]  I don't know why.
[02:06:00]  You're an unreliable narrator.
[02:06:01]  Who are willing to talk and be friends with?
[02:06:03]  You are an unreliable narrator.
[02:06:07]  When I point out that there are people that were talking in ways that sound like they're getting young girls and asking for large sums of money in weird ways, you immediately defer to.
[02:06:16]  But what about Bannon's documentary?
[02:06:18]  You're a bad faith actor.
[02:06:19]  I think you're being bad faith.
[02:06:20]  What about Bennon's documentary?
[02:06:21]  What does Bannon's documentary have to do with the guy saying, I fantasize about being on your island?
[02:06:24]  I think it's disgusting when people are trying to rehabilitate a convicted pedophile.
[02:06:28]  But it seems like you guys are cheap.
[02:06:29]  I would agree with that.
[02:06:30]  Well, you guys seem to focus on that.
[02:06:32]  Howard Ludnick, for example, also seems to be a lot of people.
[02:06:33]  They're not talking in coded language about creepy stuff.
[02:06:36]  Oh, yes, they are.
[02:06:37]  You haven't read his emails.
[02:06:38]  I've read thousands of emails with Bannon.
[02:06:40]  I thought it was a good idea.
[02:06:40]  I've read all the emails.
[02:06:41]  They're not that bad, Ben.
[02:06:42]  And we have talked about Bannon and Lutnick.
[02:06:45]  And when I mention traffickers, you defer to politics.
[02:06:49]  And Bannon is a family.
[02:06:50]  You're bad faith.
[02:06:50]  You're unreliable.
[02:06:51]  Lutnick said he never talked to him.
[02:06:53]  And then that was a lie.
[02:06:54]  He took his family to the island.
[02:06:55]  So I think the people that are lying about the relationship are the ones that are hiding the most.
[02:06:59]  So, you know, I think it's a possibility that you could be friends with Jeffrey Epstein and not be a pedophile.
[02:07:03]  But when you're using coded language and talking about weird things like jerky, you're probably the ones that are doing the weird stuff.
[02:07:08]  We are going to the uncensored portion of the show right now.
[02:07:10]  So smash the like button, share the show.
[02:07:12]  Stay tuned because it's going to get rowdier, I suppose.
[02:07:15]  And we'll talk more about the Epstein stuff.
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[02:07:30]  Tonight.
[02:07:30]  It's on one hour.
[02:07:32]  Good evening, everybody.
[02:07:33]  Hope you enjoyed the fascinating episode of Timcast IRL.
[02:07:35]  Tonight, I'm Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
[02:07:40]  Phil?
[02:07:41]  Whoa.
[02:07:41]  What is that?
[02:07:43]  The power is going out.
[02:07:44]  It'll be the stream drive.
[02:07:45]  The Epstein people themselves are after us.
[02:07:49]  The lights?
[02:07:50]  The monitor flickered for a second.
[02:07:51]  The lights flickering indicate that wasn't just a single outline.
[02:07:54]  That's like a full.
[02:07:55]  Oh, yeah, the TV shut up.
[02:07:57]  Whoa.
[02:07:58]  That's spooky.
[02:07:59]  I know, Elad.
[02:08:00]  No, we talked.
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[02:08:38]  Thanks for hanging out.
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[02:10:12]  Use promo code Tim10 because what we do is the first portion of the uncensored is free, but then the callers, where things get a bit more spicy sometimes, is gated Rumble Premium only.
[02:10:25]  So definitely sign up.
[02:10:26]  And if you want to call into the show, you join our Discord community at Timcast.com.
[02:10:31]  And I got big news.
[02:10:32]  The coffee shop is about to open, and we are already preparing for the grand opening.
[02:10:38]  We're probably talking about doing an exclusive Discord community VIP-only party closed to the public, VIP Elite, before the store even opens.

=== Walk Across The Potomac (03:17) ===

[02:10:51]  And I know, don't get too excited, guys, but this is big.
[02:10:56]  You're going to be really excited for this.
[02:10:58]  Ian's going to be there.
[02:10:59]  Sick?
[02:11:00]  Yep.
[02:11:00]  Sick guy.
[02:11:01]  Wouldn't miss it.
[02:11:02]  Wouldn't miss it.
[02:11:03]  Yep, Ian.
[02:11:04]  You will get to meet him.
[02:11:05]  And I was talking to John.
[02:11:06]  He runs it.
[02:11:07]  And I said, we should do a mock Timcast background set for people to get photos in the coffee shop.
[02:11:12]  And we got to get a cardboard cut out of Ian.
[02:11:15]  And the rest of you, too.
[02:11:16]  And then my wife just, no.
[02:11:17]  That's not fun.
[02:11:20]  It's not.
[02:11:20]  A cardboard cut out of Tim or Phil or Elon.
[02:11:23]  But Ian is where, you know, for real, though, my wife rolls her eyes and I'm just like, well, the thing is, it's not funny to get a picture of a car with a cardboard cut out of me.
[02:11:33]  It's not.
[02:11:34]  It's like, yeah, okay, you know, that's Timpool, I guess.
[02:11:36]  But Ian is because he's moonlord.
[02:11:40]  So like having a picture with a cardboard cut out of Ian fits his persona and his character and it's fun to have in your photo.
[02:11:44]  You should get a picture with Ian and with Ian as a cardboard cutout.
[02:11:48]  We can get a cardboard cut out of Epstein and Maxwell.
[02:11:51]  There you go.
[02:11:53]  With Ian and his arm around them.
[02:11:56]  Yeah.
[02:11:57]  You know, there's a story that no one's talking about, which is really weird.
[02:12:00]  I think I might do a big thing on it tomorrow.
[02:12:02]  Did you know that the worst ecological disaster in U.S. history just happened?
[02:12:05]  In D.C.
[02:12:06]  Yeah.
[02:12:07]  The Potomac River has been contaminated.
[02:12:08]  You can't drink from it anymore or fish in it.
[02:12:10]  That's like India.
[02:12:11]  Like the Ganges River.
[02:12:12]  It's very Ganges.
[02:12:13]  It is.
[02:12:14]  It is the degree of apocalypse on this.
[02:12:17]  Billions of gallons.
[02:12:18]  200 million gallons of sewage has just floated the Potomac, and people fish and swim and go tubing.
[02:12:25]  Not anymore.
[02:12:25]  Not anymore.
[02:12:26]  And Ian's.
[02:12:27]  Where did it happen?
[02:12:28]  Because, I mean, it was down closer to D.C. than up here.
[02:12:31]  I mean, we're, you know, an hour and change away, but the Potomac is fine.
[02:12:33]  Yeah, it was in D.C., so it's probably just destroyed the D.C. area.
[02:12:37]  We're probably fine because we're flowing in that direction.
[02:12:40]  But I don't know who really wants to go there right now because of this stuff.
[02:12:43]  If you want to go, like, kayaking, like, out at...
[02:12:48]  But it's too cold to do that right now anyway.
[02:12:49]  Yeah, that's true.
[02:12:50]  Not really.
[02:12:52]  No, for real.
[02:12:52]  Like, you do see people.
[02:12:56]  They wear insulated suits or whatever.
[02:12:59]  Obviously, in the summer, everyone's walking around.
[02:13:01]  Here's the thing that people don't realize about the Potomac.
[02:13:04]  You can walk across it.
[02:13:05]  I did walk across it the other day when it was frozen over.
[02:13:08]  No, but I mean in the summer when it's flowing.
[02:13:10]  It's not deep.
[02:13:11]  In some areas it is.
[02:13:12]  In some areas it's not.
[02:13:13]  Let me actually get the actual.
[02:13:15]  I want to make sure I'm correct on which river I'm talking about.
[02:13:19]  You know, you can walk across a Bering Strait.
[02:13:23]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:13:24]  Sometimes.
[02:13:24]  Yeah, the Potomac.
[02:13:26]  Yeah, so let me zoom in here.
[02:13:30]  The Potomac has points where it's so low.
[02:13:36]  I mean, actually, right by Harper's Ferry, it's just like people just walk across it.
[02:13:40]  You're not supposed to because you can get washed away.
[02:13:43]  But you will see people, and they do outdoor stuff.
[02:13:46]  They're just like, you just walk across it, walk into the middle and go fishing.
[02:13:49]  Harper's Ferry is always packed in the summertime.
[02:13:52]  Yep.
[02:13:52]  It's real nice down there.
[02:13:54]  And the actual main part of the city is called Bolivar.
[02:13:58]  Down Harper's Ferry?
[02:13:59]  You know what's the funny thing is like when you live in this area, everyone says Harper's Ferry, even if it's Charlestown.
[02:14:03]  Because if you say Charlestown, nobody knows what that means.
[02:14:05]  And then they assume you're talking about Central West Virginia, Charleston.

=== Bam's DUI Incident (04:59) ===

[02:14:09]  The Bam Margero story.
[02:14:11]  Yeah, the story.
[02:14:12]  Did we publicly tell that story?
[02:14:14]  I don't know.
[02:14:14]  Maybe I have to now.
[02:14:15]  Bam Margero was on his way here, and Richie Jackson was like, here's where you're going.
[02:14:22]  Here's the address.
[02:14:23]  It's just outside of Charlestown.
[02:14:26]  Not to be confused.
[02:14:27]  He literally said this.
[02:14:28]  Not to be confused with Charleston.
[02:14:30]  Here's a picture of the map of Charlestown.
[02:14:32]  So you make sure you put in the right one.
[02:14:34]  Please don't put Charleston in the GPS.
[02:14:36]  You'll go to the wrong place.
[02:14:38]  And so then me and Richie are hanging out at a Mexican restaurant, all excited.
[02:14:41]  Like, this is great.
[02:14:42]  Like, Bam's going to come by and we're going to hang out.
[02:14:43]  Big fan.
[02:14:45]  And then Bam texts Richie, like, yo, bro, I just pulled into my hotel.
[02:14:48]  So let me get cleaned up a little bit and I'll probably be there in like 15 or 20 minutes.
[02:14:51]  And Richie was like, sounds good, brother.
[02:14:53]  And then like 10 minutes later, he texts back, like, yo, what the fuck?
[02:14:56]  I'm six hours away.
[02:14:58]  And he was like, what do you mean?
[02:14:59]  Where are you?
[02:15:00]  And he's like, bro, I'm in Charleston.
[02:15:02]  And then Richie was like, I swear to you, Tim.
[02:15:04]  And he showed me the text where it was like, here's a screen.
[02:15:08]  I'm not kidding.
[02:15:08]  He was like, here's a screenshot of my Google Mets.
[02:15:10]  He circled Charlestown and he was, make sure you type in Charlestown, not Charleston.
[02:15:13]  He's like, please don't put Charleston.
[02:15:15]  You'll go to the wrong place.
[02:15:16]  Dropped a pin and everything.
[02:15:17]  And then Bam would just go.
[02:15:18]  If someone put don't go to Charleston, he jinxed it by saying that.
[02:15:21]  And then he put that in the chat, Bam.
[02:15:23]  Well, then the next thing that happened was Bam was coming back and he was like, I'm going to make it this time.
[02:15:28]  And we're all excited.
[02:15:29]  And then he stopped in PA and got drunk or allegedly got a DUI.
[02:15:34]  I think they accused him of it.
[02:15:35]  And then he got arrested before he made it here.
[02:15:38]  And we were all like, what the?
[02:15:40]  That's our Bam Margero story.
[02:15:42]  He's having a kind of a resurgence.
[02:15:43]  Well, he's got cleaned up.
[02:15:44]  It's good for him.
[02:15:45]  But he was on the phone with me and he was like, I need a hot tub.
[02:15:49]  And I was like, Bam, we'll get you a hot tub.
[02:15:50]  And he was like, but I need like a good jacuzzi.
[02:15:52]  You know what I mean?
[02:15:53]  And I was like, Bam, we're in West Virginia.
[02:15:54]  I will, I will get you what I can get you.
[02:15:55]  And he was like, call him up and tell him that you're booking it for Turd Ferguson.
[02:16:00]  What?
[02:16:01]  And I was like, what?
[02:16:02]  And he goes, tell him the room is for Turd Ferguson.
[02:16:06]  And I said, the room is going to be under Timcast.
[02:16:09]  And when you get there, you can just tell them your name.
[02:16:11]  He goes, no, because people will know I'm there and it's going to get all crazy.
[02:16:15]  And I was like, I hear you.
[02:16:16]  So why don't I put like John Evans?
[02:16:18]  He's like, no, tell him Turd Ferguson.
[02:16:20]  I was like, Bam, I can't tell him Turd Ferguson.
[02:16:22]  They're not going to give us the room.
[02:16:24]  I think they would have given you the room.
[02:16:26]  And so we booked a room with a hot tub in it.
[02:16:28]  And then he under what name?
[02:16:33]  You didn't use Turd Ferguson?
[02:16:34]  No, we did like Bill Wilkerson or something.
[02:16:37]  Something dumb.
[02:16:38]  And like Timcast Corp or whatever.
[02:16:40]  And then when he didn't show up, we started getting nervous.
[02:16:44]  And then I like, I told Richie, I was like, because this is now the second time.
[02:16:47]  And then I was like, can you message him?
[02:16:49]  Just figure out where he's at.
[02:16:50]  And he's like, no, he's coming.
[02:16:51]  He's saying like he'll be here at like five.
[02:16:52]  And I'm like, it's getting late, bro.
[02:16:54]  And he was like, well, you know, he gets here when he gets here.
[02:16:56]  It's Bam, right?
[02:16:57]  And I'm like, yeah.
[02:16:58]  And then he never ended up showing up.
[02:17:01]  And I just said, whatever, man, I'm going to bed.
[02:17:03]  And then I left.
[02:17:03]  And the next day we saw TMZ Bam Margera arrested for DUI.
[02:17:07]  Oh, poor guy.
[02:17:09]  And he said he wasn't drinking, that he wasn't drunk driving.
[02:17:13]  I forgot what happened was.
[02:17:15]  What else would he say?
[02:17:15]  No, It was that.
[02:17:17]  No, I think he was his pills.
[02:17:19]  No, he wasn't driving, but the engine was on him when he had a drink.
[02:17:22]  It was like he was outside of his car with the engine running and he was drinking.
[02:17:25]  And they argued that he was in control of the vehicle.
[02:17:28]  Because the argument, I think that's why he got off.
[02:17:30]  And they didn't end up charging him in the end.
[02:17:32]  He got arrested for it.
[02:17:33]  Or they didn't end up moving forward with it.
[02:17:35]  I think it was something.
[02:17:36]  I could be totally wrong about this.
[02:17:37]  There's something like, if you get in to grab the keys, you are in control.
[02:17:41]  Like the vehicle being running with you having a drink, it's a DUI.
[02:17:44]  I don't even think you're allowed to be in the driver's seat, even if it's.
[02:17:46]  That's true, but he wasn't.
[02:17:48]  And that's why he was like, I got out of the car.
[02:17:49]  I'm not even in there.
[02:17:50]  Like, you can't turn the car off.
[02:17:51]  You are in control of this.
[02:17:53]  You can't operate the vehicle at all.
[02:17:54]  You can't do anything.
[02:17:55]  Yeah, even if it's not moving.
[02:17:56]  So you can't be drunk and sleeping in your car in the front.
[02:17:58]  Exactly, because you're in control.
[02:17:59]  So the fact that he was outside of his car with a drink, they were like, the only way for this car to be turned off or moved is if you go in right now and sit in that chair, which is a DUI.
[02:18:09]  And then I guess what happened?
[02:18:10]  I could be, but that's why I ended up not getting charged with it.
[02:18:13]  They ended up saying, like, okay, Bam, we get it.
[02:18:15]  Don't do this stuff.
[02:18:16]  You shouldn't.
[02:18:17]  You're not supposed to be drinking or whatever.
[02:18:18]  It's actually a much wilder story, but it gets more into private details, which I don't want to, you know, with unrelated third parties and I'm not going to be smirched.
[02:18:26]  But the story is really crazy.
[02:18:28]  Maybe, maybe, maybe one day Bam won't mind if we tell it.
[02:18:31]  But my understanding, I think he said he wasn't drinking, and I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I know he wasn't.
[02:18:38]  I don't think he was driving.
[02:18:39]  I think a DUI is probably one of the most American things you can do.
[02:18:43]  He did get a DY, didn't get a DUI.
[02:18:45]  I miss the OG jackass crowd, though.
[02:18:48]  It was cool that we tried to get Bam on.
[02:18:50]  If we could get any of those other guys, it'd be cool.
[02:18:52]  Like a Steve-O.
[02:18:53]  I think Steve-O has a podcast.
[02:18:55]  Knoxville was sick.
[02:18:56]  Who was the guy, the other guy, Wild Boys, too?
[02:18:59]  That whole squad was great.
[02:19:00]  Well, Chris Pony.
[02:19:00]  He passed away.
[02:19:01]  Chris Pony's passed away.
[02:19:02]  Oh, you have.
[02:19:03]  Fuck.
[02:19:04]  Hey, let's go to callers.
[02:19:05]  We got Omni Stone Herald.

=== Break the Chains Media (08:47) ===

[02:19:08]  What is up?
[02:19:10]  What say you, good sir?
[02:19:15]  Omni Stone Herald, you are muted.
[02:19:17]  Unmute, homie.
[02:19:21]  Going once.
[02:19:22]  Come on now.
[02:19:23]  Going twice.
[02:19:24]  We believe in you.
[02:19:25]  All right.
[02:19:25]  We're going to go to the next caller.
[02:19:27]  We got Break the Chains Media.
[02:19:29]  What's up?
[02:19:33]  Break the Chains Media.
[02:19:34]  Come on, man.
[02:19:35]  Oh, wait.
[02:19:36]  I think.
[02:19:36]  Sorry, this could be my fault.
[02:19:37]  Oh, we weren't there.
[02:19:39]  Oh.
[02:19:40]  They couldn't hear us.
[02:19:41]  Break the Chains Media.
[02:19:42]  We pulled you in.
[02:19:43]  That was not OmniStone Herald's fault.
[02:19:47]  Break the Chains Media.
[02:19:49]  Hey, sorry.
[02:19:51]  No, I was literally just trying to text the Colin show to be like, hey, I don't hear you guys in the Discord.
[02:19:56]  Yeah, I clicked it, but I guess.
[02:19:57]  It's all good.
[02:19:57]  How are we doing, guys?
[02:19:58]  Doing well.
[02:19:59]  We're doing well.
[02:20:01]  Hey, you know what?
[02:20:02]  Elot, I just got something to tell for you.
[02:20:05]  Conspiracy theorists have been batting a thousand.
[02:20:07]  So just because you find it far-fetched and don't believe it doesn't mean that these elites aren't actually doing it.
[02:20:15]  And Alex, you're absolutely correct.
[02:20:16]  Spirit cooking loosh, demonic worship, code words, the whole thing, everything is right on par for the money.
[02:20:22]  I've been talking it for about like 15 years now.
[02:20:25]  But on a more practical note, getting back to like centered reality politics, I have been exposing corruption right here in Colorado, the trafficking of minors, Colorado legislative session, killing minor trafficking bills, as well as decriminalizing adult activities, women of the night here in Colorado, along with election fraud, ICE hotline abuses, and NGO money laundering.
[02:20:51]  How can I, as a content creator, as a media guy, trying to be on the ground, how do I make my videos and short form reports, cut through the noise and grab the masses' attention?
[02:21:02]  And it's pretty tough trying to inject humor and make it eye-catching with such dark or doom and gloom topics such as A-B testing and iteration, and the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
[02:21:16]  So you have to just start making content and be consistent and just keep going every day.
[02:21:22]  And there are ups and there are downs.
[02:21:24]  The people who succeed are the people who keep going no matter what.
[02:21:26]  So just a quick, the quick, simple version is: I was talking to the guitarist from Death Camp for Cutie.
[02:21:32]  I've told the story a million times, but it's a good one.
[02:21:34]  And I was really excited to meet him.
[02:21:36]  They're my favorite band.
[02:21:37]  And at the time, and I asked him, how do you make it in the music industry?
[02:21:40]  And he says, just keep playing music.
[02:21:41]  That's it.
[02:21:42]  He said he started playing in a band when he was a teenager and there were all these kids starting bands.
[02:21:47]  One by one, every weekend, a band would quit and they'd give up.
[02:21:51]  After five years of this, they were the band that was always playing the shows around town.
[02:21:55]  Everybody knew who they were.
[02:21:56]  They were the only one left.
[02:21:58]  And so if there's 100 people to watch music and 100 bands, every band gets one fan member, one audience member.
[02:22:07]  And then when 99 of the bands have quit, but there's still 100 audience members, they're all at your show.
[02:22:12]  Yep.
[02:22:13]  I started all the, you know, I started playing in bands in like 1993.
[02:22:18]  This when I played my first show, I think.
[02:22:21]  And then like all that remains, the record that put us on the map came out in 2006.
[02:22:25]  And all that remains started in 1998.
[02:22:29]  So, you know, you just keep doing it.
[02:22:33]  There's a whole lot of you just don't quit because the more you do it, the better you get at it, of course.
[02:22:38]  So, your first offering and stuff is not usually your best.
[02:22:43]  But the more you do it, the better you get at it.
[02:22:45]  And just like Tim said, the longer you do it, the more people will decide it's not for them.
[02:22:50]  The more people give up.
[02:22:51]  There will be fewer bands that are competing and stuff.
[02:22:54]  So, really, just keep doing it.
[02:22:55]  Don't stop.
[02:22:56]  Keep putting out content.
[02:22:57]  Keep going out and getting on the ground.
[02:23:00]  So, I think I have some prudent advice.
[02:23:02]  I think the conspiracism is leading to the further retarding of our politics.
[02:23:07]  But if that's the shit you're into, I think you should lean into it.
[02:23:09]  Throw caution to the wind.
[02:23:11]  Like, facts, no matter how baseless, make it as salacious as you fucking can.
[02:23:15]  Candace Owens times 10 million.
[02:23:16]  I swear to God, it doesn't matter.
[02:23:18]  Just make shit up.
[02:23:19]  You know, jerky, dead babies, placenta, my asshole.
[02:23:22]  It does not matter.
[02:23:23]  I'm being dead serious because that's what the incentive structure online is.
[02:23:27]  Read through the emails, pick something up, call it euphemism, and then just, you know, go to town from there.
[02:23:32]  Every single person, not even named.
[02:23:34]  He doesn't have to have having had emailed or anything.
[02:23:37]  It doesn't matter.
[02:23:38]  Just move forward with conspiracy.
[02:23:40]  The truth isn't entertaining enough.
[02:23:42]  So make shit up.
[02:23:43]  It doesn't matter.
[02:23:44]  You'll get more buzz, and that's what matters to you, right?
[02:23:46]  It doesn't matter if we're not.
[02:23:47]  Do a show about how Charlie Kirk lives with Candace Owens.
[02:23:51]  Yeah.
[02:23:52]  And that's why I'm not.
[02:23:53]  Charlie's so triggered about it.
[02:23:55]  That's the weird thing.
[02:23:56]  I'm explaining to you because I think it's leading to the retardation of our politics.
[02:23:59]  I think there's enough stuff in politics to be fascinated by.
[02:24:02]  But no, we need to add this stupid bullshit extra on top because it's not salacious enough for people.
[02:24:06]  So I'm telling this guy, dude, for real, if like I don't buy into this shit, I think it makes you stupid.
[02:24:11]  But if you buy into this shit, push it because online, that's what the algorithms are recording.
[02:24:16]  Follow Ian Carroll, follow Candace Owens.
[02:24:19]  Alex Stein isn't even doing a good job at it, but push the same shit that these retards are pushing.
[02:24:23]  You'll get the clicks you're looking for.
[02:24:25]  Dude, I swear to God.
[02:24:26]  No, wait, I'm being honest.
[02:24:27]  Why can't I give honest advice about you getting butthurd, Alex?
[02:24:30]  I'm not buttered.
[02:24:30]  I'm not a blip.
[02:24:31]  I'm doing full.
[02:24:32]  I explained bullshit.
[02:24:33]  I explained to you.
[02:24:34]  I don't think I'm doing good enough for you.
[02:24:35]  No, no, no, dude.
[02:24:37]  You suck at your job.
[02:24:38]  You don't ever go to the White House.
[02:24:40]  The president says I'm a good reporter.
[02:24:41]  So I don't know.
[02:24:42]  The president thinks I'm a good reporter.
[02:24:44]  No viral clips.
[02:24:46]  So you're trying to come after me.
[02:24:47]  Nobody knows why.
[02:24:49]  Literally, nobody knows.
[02:24:50]  Bullshit conspiracism online.
[02:24:53]  He wants a viral clip.
[02:24:54]  Nobody would know.
[02:24:54]  People want viral clips.
[02:24:56]  So just talk stupid shit online.
[02:24:58]  Continue to retard.
[02:24:59]  If you didn't have Tim Kirk's dick in your mouth, nobody would know who you are.
[02:25:03]  So you have Tim's nuts.
[02:25:05]  Did I have Tim's butts on my list?
[02:25:06]  Whoa, You're tad.
[02:25:07]  That's all.
[02:25:09]  Alex, who's mad?
[02:25:09]  I'm very sorry.
[02:25:10]  Who's sad?
[02:25:10]  You shouldn't have done a good job.
[02:25:13]  Yeah, because you just all of a sudden attack me.
[02:25:15]  And this is an advanced attack me.
[02:25:16]  Why did you say that?
[02:25:17]  I'm attacking your idea.
[02:25:19]  I'm attacking your ideas.
[02:25:20]  Why are you monster talking?
[02:25:21]  You have your own shot.
[02:25:22]  I'm dominating.
[02:25:23]  That doesn't mean conspiracies aren't stupid.
[02:25:24]  Okay, well, you're stupid.
[02:25:26]  We just suck at your job.
[02:25:27]  I'm just trying to give it a data call.
[02:25:29]  Would you just say what you give me advice?
[02:25:30]  I wouldn't take your advice.
[02:25:32]  I'm not giving you advice.
[02:25:32]  I'm giving the questions.
[02:25:33]  Guys, guys, can we just say what needs to be said?
[02:25:35]  It was the Jews.
[02:25:37]  I knew it.
[02:25:38]  Dude, why won't he?
[02:25:40]  Why won't Alex Dein admit it was the Jews involved in Charlie Kirk's murdering?
[02:25:43]  That's the real question here.
[02:25:44]  I wonder if Alex Dein's working with Massage because he's really running cover for these guys.
[02:25:48]  He's running cover for the Jews right now because he is refusing to admit the Jews and Massage involved.
[02:25:55]  I don't believe that at all.
[02:25:56]  And he's mad that I don't.
[02:25:58]  I'm making madness.
[02:25:59]  I'm making that fun of you.
[02:26:01]  You're making fun of me because I don't believe that Israel was involved in Charlie Prince, bro.
[02:26:04]  That's crazy.
[02:26:05]  You're a retarder.
[02:26:06]  On one hand, you're mad that people believe conspiracies.
[02:26:09]  And now you're mad at me because I don't believe in conspiracy.
[02:26:10]  You're making fun of me.
[02:26:11]  You're a faggot and you're an idiot, dude.
[02:26:13]  You're a faggot.
[02:26:16]  You have that faggot fucking mustache and you're acting like a fucking faggot, dude.
[02:26:19]  I agree.
[02:26:20]  You seem like a triggered little leftist.
[02:26:21]  I don't know why.
[02:26:22]  Because you're trying to come after me.
[02:26:24]  You're mad?
[02:26:24]  No, no, but listen, you're mad at me because I don't believe you.
[02:26:28]  I'm making a lot of money.
[02:26:28]  It just shows you how hypocritical you are.
[02:26:30]  Well, you don't make fun of yourself in your high IQ show.
[02:26:33]  Maybe you just don't get it.
[02:26:34]  You are a retard, and nobody knows who you are.
[02:26:36]  So I'm just saying you are a retarded fascinating.
[02:26:39]  Elod rhymes with Masad.
[02:26:42]  I mean, I think it's obvious, though, Tim.
[02:26:44]  You can see all the people that are defending Epstein is they don't like that Ghelaine Maxwell's connection with Robert Maxwell, her dad, who is basically an Israeli spy.
[02:26:52]  And Charlie Kirk was turning the cheek on his face.
[02:26:54]  I never said that.
[02:26:55]  I never said that.
[02:26:55]  I'm saying that.
[02:26:56]  Well, I don't believe that.
[02:26:57]  I think you're wrong.
[02:26:58]  That's crazy.
[02:26:58]  You definitely.
[02:26:59]  I don't think that's crazy at all.
[02:27:01]  Yeah, you're a little bit more involved with the merchants.
[02:27:02]  You're mad that I don't believe that conspiracy.
[02:27:04]  It's so bizarre, dude.
[02:27:05]  Hey, so caller.
[02:27:06]  Caller, just keep doing what you're doing.
[02:27:09]  Keep putting content out and don't listen to these guys because they're just going to yell at you.
[02:27:13]  It's great advice.
[02:27:14]  Well, to be fair, very quickly, Elod does have a point: sensationalism does get clicks, but I'm not going for sensationalism.
[02:27:21]  I'm going for truth.
[02:27:23]  And the fact is, is that the truth is that Robert Maxwell did have Israeli asset connections and did operate the publication books for our schools in America.
[02:27:33]  So there are factual evidence that Alex does represent, but you don't have to sensationalize it.
[02:27:39]  You just have to be honest with the delivery.
[02:27:41]  But yeah, no, thank you for everyone.
[02:27:43]  And honestly, you're welcome, Timcast uncensored edition, for that little banter rate.
[02:27:48]  So yeah, you guys can follow me.
[02:27:50]  Thank you.
[02:27:51]  If you do want to break the chains M on X, Break the Chains Media on YouTube and Rumble.

=== Taxing Wealth Strategies (08:16) ===

[02:27:56]  I do live streams three times a week, but I just dropped a video on Jenna Griswold, the DOJ, her Tracer accounts, and the child trafficking ring and the very strange occurrences that's happening in Colorado.
[02:28:09]  So feel free to follow.
[02:28:09]  What's happening in Colorado?
[02:28:12]  So right now, we have some very interesting reports that human trafficking is being kind of covered up in the legislative session.
[02:28:22]  The legislative body is basically shutting down any sort of, there was a House representative who tried to make the felony charges of human trap or child trafficking, specifically child trafficking, more extreme.
[02:28:37]  And the Democrats shut it down.
[02:28:39]  And then the very next day, they introduced the decriminalization of prostitution.
[02:28:44]  And that also works in tangent with, I have two different reports I'm working with regarding CPS and foster care children and the networking of basically invisible children being pushed through the foster care government programs and these courts and how they're being basically moved through Colorado.
[02:29:04]  I-25 and I-70 is at the heart of Denver, and it's a very, very central geographical location for East, West, North, South.
[02:29:12]  So it's a pretty uncovered story, and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
[02:29:20]  Right on.
[02:29:20]  Well, good luck, brother.
[02:29:21]  I appreciate it.
[02:29:22]  Thanks for calling in.
[02:29:23]  Yeah.
[02:29:23]  Yeah.
[02:29:23]  Thank you guys.
[02:29:24]  Appreciate you.
[02:29:25]  And Elod, you're great.
[02:29:26]  Elod, you're great.
[02:29:26]  Everyone hates you, but I think you do a good work.
[02:29:29]  And even though you're kind of a bitch, but you're still in my book.
[02:29:33]  It's supposed to be compliment, insult, compliment, not compliment, insult, insult.
[02:29:38]  I don't wish you any luck with your content.
[02:29:40]  I don't think you're going to be successful at all.
[02:29:42]  So good luck, Omni Stone Herald.
[02:29:44]  What's up?
[02:29:48]  Hey, guys.
[02:29:48]  Thanks to tell you pick my fall.
[02:29:50]  And I actually agree with a lot.
[02:29:52]  We definitely need to start advertising Jewish ass turkey.
[02:29:56]  So that's what's up here.
[02:30:00]  You heard Jewish ass turkey?
[02:30:02]  No, it's probably ass turkey.
[02:30:06]  Ah, ass jerky.
[02:30:07]  Okay.
[02:30:09]  Anyways, so also a lot's not going to like this question because he's a communist.
[02:30:14]  I propose a wealth benefit.
[02:30:17]  Instead of taxing more wealth, we should lower these taxes to 1% and remove the property tax for all primary residences.
[02:30:26]  The more you contribute to the actual economy, the less you should be taxed so you can do more with it.
[02:30:33]  My question for you guys is: how will anyone ever win an election running on this kind of platform as long as communists invest this country?
[02:30:43]  Well, but hold on.
[02:30:44]  The thing is, if you make a million dollars in the year and then on December 31st, you spend all of that money on equipment, you don't pay taxes.
[02:30:53]  Equipment expenses go up to about a million dollars.
[02:30:55]  So technically, your system already is in place.
[02:30:58]  That's the idea that if you make a million dollars profit in one month and then say, I'm going to take that and I'm going to hire 100 new workers, you don't pay taxes on it.
[02:31:11]  Yeah, I'm aware of all those things and trying to sum it up in one small question, but I understand that there's a lot of things that wealthy people do to get around.
[02:31:21]  No, no, no, no, That's not even avoiding taxes.
[02:31:25]  So let's say one month we're like, hey, look, Tim Cass made an extra $100,000.
[02:31:30]  I know.
[02:31:30]  Let's start a new show starring Alex Stein where he goes around and asks people questions.
[02:31:34]  By spending that money on Alex, it's a business loss.
[02:31:37]  My business doesn't need to do it to survive.
[02:31:40]  We do it to grow and provide more of the economy.
[02:31:43]  That's how our tax system works.
[02:31:45]  So that's not a loophole.
[02:31:47]  That's the intended condition.
[02:31:48]  They want you to do that.
[02:31:53]  Okay, but look like the wealth tax in California, if they implement that across the world.
[02:31:57]  It's the opposite.
[02:32:00]  Wealth tax is the opposite.
[02:32:03]  Wealth taxes stop working hard.
[02:32:06]  That's like misunderstanding.
[02:32:07]  I feel, because I feel.
[02:32:10]  One thing I learned recently is that when it comes to the way that we tax the wealth in this country, is you get taxed for taking your money out of the stock market and property, which is capital gains tax.
[02:32:24]  When you make money, you do.
[02:32:27]  Yeah, whatever you made over your initial investment or over the initial investment, that gets taxed.
[02:32:37]  Yeah, and that seems to fun to me.
[02:32:40]  The way I'm hearing it is it sounds like it's punishing the ultra, not yeah, the ultra-wealthy, but just the wealthy in general to keep their money.
[02:32:51]  They try to avoid taking that money out.
[02:32:53]  Yeah.
[02:32:55]  Actually, it's really simple.
[02:32:56]  You create a Delaware trust, you put all your money in it, and then if the trust buys a car, it pays no taxes.
[02:33:03]  If the trust buys a car for $100,000 and sells it for $200,000 and makes a $100,000 profit, the trust doesn't owe any taxes because it's not an entity.
[02:33:09]  It's not a tax-paying entity.
[02:33:11]  So what wealthy people do is they put everything in a trust and then buy anything they can through the trust and never pay taxes on anything.
[02:33:17]  So your trust buys stock, the stock goes up in value, you sell the stock, the trust is now worth 10 times as much, but you pay no taxes.
[02:33:24]  Then the trust buys a house, you live in the house, pays no taxes.
[02:33:27]  Then you sell the house for $2 million on top.
[02:33:30]  The trust is now substantially larger.
[02:33:31]  You pay no taxes.
[02:33:32]  That's the easy way to do it.
[02:33:34]  When people talk about tax loopholes and all this stuff, they don't understand that you don't actually need any loophole or anything like that.
[02:33:40]  The trusts exist.
[02:33:42]  It's like literally right there in front of you.
[02:33:44]  Here's how you buy things without paying taxes.
[02:33:48]  Okay, fair enough.
[02:33:49]  It sounds like I'm misunderstanding something.
[02:33:52]  Yeah, it's like the left is all like, the wealthy people are getting away.
[02:33:55]  Bro, you do your wealth tax, you fucking idiots.
[02:33:58]  And this is something I should probably talk about.
[02:34:00]  I haven't brought this up.
[02:34:01]  You do a wealth tax.
[02:34:03]  That means if you own $100 billion stock, you got to pay us a billion dollars.
[02:34:07]  Okay, my trust owns it.
[02:34:09]  It's a non-taxable entity.
[02:34:12]  So the trust is now worth a billion dollars.
[02:34:14]  I want to buy a yacht.
[02:34:15]  Okay.
[02:34:16]  The trust bought the yacht.
[02:34:17]  I'm the beneficiary of the trust, so I have full control of what happens next.
[02:34:21]  I don't owe any money.
[02:34:23]  I sold stock to make cash, then I used the cash to buy a yacht all through the trust.
[02:34:27]  No taxes.
[02:34:28]  Well, Donald Trump's gone multiple years without paying taxes, he said.
[02:34:32]  But that's because the way his revenue is like that, that's not necessarily the same thing.
[02:34:35]  That's like he takes as many write-offs as he can so that and he's also pointed out that there's more liabilities and assets.
[02:34:42]  That's another that's another trick is to be over-leveraged.
[02:34:45]  The idea is if you have a million dollars in credit and two million in debt, so long as you can pay the minimum and keep having revenue come in, you're rich.
[02:34:56]  So the way Trump strategized was: if I can accrue debt, but keep paying off that debt by using the wealth they afford me, what you basically do is this.
[02:35:08]  Whereas the average person says, I'm going to make 800 bucks this week and then spend it on food, then 800 bucks a week and then spend it on food.
[02:35:14]  Trump says, that's dumb.
[02:35:16]  I'm going to make $20 million this week and I'm going to owe $30, but I'm going to pay the minimum of the debt.
[02:35:21]  Well, it goes up, but I'm going to make a little bit more.
[02:35:23]  So the debt, Trump basically talks about running his business the way the U.S. government does.
[02:35:28]  Generate more debt, but if you have $20 million in profit every year and you're only paying down the minimum on the credit that's accruing, it doesn't matter because everyone's happy.
[02:35:39]  And then you get to live off of a fraction of that $20 million per year.
[02:35:43]  Let's say you're taking 10% for a salary.
[02:35:45]  You're making $2 million cash per year.
[02:35:47]  Then the business goes bankrupt.
[02:35:49]  You wipe off all the debt and you've got $2 million in your pocket.
[02:35:53]  Congratulations.
[02:35:53]  It's easy to be rich.
[02:35:54]  People just don't do it because most people have scruples.
[02:35:58]  Yeah, that's one thing I did learn recently, but I guess I just didn't think it was wrong at all, but everyone that was presenting it to me made it sound like it was bad.
[02:36:08]  Buy a car.
[02:36:10]  You know, buy a car with the debt.

=== Fractured Wealth Dynamics (08:03) ===

[02:36:13]  Figure it.
[02:36:13]  No, a car's not a good example.
[02:36:15]  Buy something on debt that you can then sell for more money and then pay off the debt and make cash.
[02:36:20]  These are the things that they make.
[02:36:21]  You got to get a claude bot onto Mac Mini and then just have it trade on Polymarket.
[02:36:25]  And the problem is not a good idea.
[02:36:26]  The problem with that idea.
[02:36:27]  The problem with that is the bots are easily exploited into giving up the API keys and stealing all your money, which is why we did not do it.
[02:36:34]  My Claude bot is called Tank, and I have it like it was active today, and it's not a good idea to trade it and to use it to do it.
[02:36:41]  You let it trade.
[02:36:42]  You let it just go.
[02:36:43]  I'm going to do that.
[02:36:44]  You can put a limit on it.
[02:36:46]  No, but that's not the problem.
[02:36:47]  The problem is it's easy for someone to exploit your bot into giving up the API keys where your money is drained instantly.
[02:36:53]  So we actually were talking with the team.
[02:36:55]  I think you could prompt the bot not to give it.
[02:37:00]  These bots, bro, come on.
[02:37:01]  These bots are fucking retarded.
[02:37:03]  Yeah.
[02:37:03]  Anyway, anyway, sir, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?
[02:37:07]  Yeah, I clearly seem to be misunderstanding something here.
[02:37:11]  But I do want to say that we need to stop demonizing the wealthy.
[02:37:15]  I know that there are some bad people in this country.
[02:37:17]  There are some bad wealthy people, but I actually honestly believe that the majority of wealthy people are actually good-hearted or just care about actually paying their employees and running a good business.
[02:37:29]  It is true, they do.
[02:37:32]  Well, Ryan, buddy, you want to ask you, but did you want to shout anything out?
[02:37:38]  I guess I'll just shout out my ex at Price Liberty.
[02:37:44]  No, sorry, Texism Dictatorship.
[02:37:47]  And it's a pun.
[02:37:48]  Once you see my profile, you'll understand why.
[02:37:50]  Well, Ryan, thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:37:55]  That guy was interesting.
[02:37:56]  Next up, we got Sammy.
[02:37:57]  What's going on?
[02:37:58]  Sammy, what's up?
[02:38:00]  Hey, guys.
[02:38:01]  How's it going?
[02:38:02]  It is good.
[02:38:03]  Hey, Sammy.
[02:38:04]  How's it going?
[02:38:05]  Hey.
[02:38:06]  Perfect night to ask this question because a lot has been up here sounding like a doomer boomer.
[02:38:11]  Well, unironically trying to call you out, Alex, ever since he's got his White House credentials.
[02:38:16]  He's exactly the latest.
[02:38:17]  Yeah, dick riding Tim.
[02:38:20]  I was beefing with Tim at the end of the episode.
[02:38:23]  It was the opposite of dick riding.
[02:38:25]  I mean, you know, I hope Tim fires.
[02:38:27]  No, I'm not.
[02:38:28]  I'm terrified to talk to Tim.
[02:38:29]  I talk shit.
[02:38:29]  Tim, was I talking shit to you today?
[02:38:31]  I was talking shit to Tim.
[02:38:32]  I was mad.
[02:38:32]  Tim was talking shit today.
[02:38:33]  Yeah, he was mad at him.
[02:38:34]  You're going to get fired, though.
[02:38:35]  No, he's not.
[02:38:36]  The show is very entertaining.
[02:38:38]  Well, you should be.
[02:38:39]  Bro, could you be a half-decent reporter?
[02:38:41]  Half-decent, dude.
[02:38:42]  You've done no reporting.
[02:38:43]  No, I've never seen one of your reports.
[02:38:44]  Oh, I don't get a million eclipses because I don't bitch and make shit up on the internet.
[02:38:47]  No, you don't have to bitch and make there's other people that get millions of views.
[02:38:50]  Could you imagine if he wasn't on that show?
[02:38:51]  It'd been boring.
[02:38:52]  You have to admit it, Alex.
[02:38:54]  No, but I think it's frustrating because he keeps on trying to, I guess, put words in my mouth about Charlie Kirk's assassination.
[02:38:59]  It's like, what do you think has happened with Charlie?
[02:39:01]  Okay, wait, wait, we gotta call it.
[02:39:02]  Let's ask a lot.
[02:39:03]  What do you think?
[02:39:03]  Oh, no, no, no, no.
[02:39:04]  Stop, guys.
[02:39:04]  Guys, guys, guys.
[02:39:05]  We have a caller.
[02:39:07]  He's asking me a million questions.
[02:39:08]  Sammy, we have a caller who wants to ask a question.
[02:39:10]  Sammy, go ahead.
[02:39:12]  Yeah, this is perfect.
[02:39:15]  Alex, this is actually the perfect question.
[02:39:17]  It's a two-parter.
[02:39:18]  Alex, do you think conservative politics has done enough to translate the cultural momentum into actual long-term power?
[02:39:26]  Or are influencers carrying more of that fight than elected officials and mainstream journalists, like a lot pretends to be?
[02:39:32]  And how has the current political climate and infighting shaped your strategy and message, aka why does winning feel like losing?
[02:39:40]  Well, I think there's a huge fracture.
[02:39:41]  I mean, that is obviously going to come up.
[02:39:43]  And I think that's one of the biggest frustrations in Charlie Kirk's death because, you know, he probably would have ran for president or vice president and probably could have kept this movement together.
[02:39:52]  And so I think there's going to be a big split.
[02:39:53]  Ted Cruz is saying that he's going to spend like a billion dollars to run for president.
[02:39:57]  Jeez, what?
[02:39:58]  Yeah, he says the Newsmax guy, the guy that owns Newsmax, is going to pay for it.
[02:40:01]  And maybe he will.
[02:40:02]  I don't know.
[02:40:03]  So, and there's allegedly heat between Marco Rubio and JD Vance.
[02:40:07]  So I don't know.
[02:40:08]  I would argue that I think that, and I'm not going to vote for her, but I would say that AOC and Gavin Newsome have a chance to win.
[02:40:15]  And I wouldn't have thought that two years ago, but with the debacle and the Epstein file release saying it was just a Democrat hoax.
[02:40:21]  And, you know, it wasn't a Democrat hoax.
[02:40:24]  So I think a lot of people, I guess the moderate leaning people that were voting conservative might switch.
[02:40:29]  And I don't think that's going to be good for our country.
[02:40:31]  So I think it's going to be bad.
[02:40:33]  And then when it comes to influencers, look at Dan Bongino.
[02:40:36]  They thought he would be more valuable as a podcaster than as an FBI director.
[02:40:40]  So there is, you know, a lot of influence that people wield in the commentary, whatever space, whatever you want to call it, podcasting space.
[02:40:48]  So I don't know.
[02:40:48]  I'm not trying to be a doomer, but yeah, the conservative movement, if we don't, I guess, unify, it's totally fractured.
[02:40:54]  I mean, it's just obvious.
[02:41:01]  Anything else, Sammy?
[02:41:04]  Sammy, still there?
[02:41:05]  No, that's.
[02:41:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:41:07]  I'm here.
[02:41:07]  Sorry.
[02:41:08]  I didn't know if anybody else was weighing in.
[02:41:10]  Yeah, I don't know how you guys feel like Tim burning the show and everything.
[02:41:15]  It just feels so fractured.
[02:41:16]  And this is kind of this episode kind of proved that.
[02:41:19]  Oh, it's definitely fractured.
[02:41:21]  Yeah.
[02:41:21]  It is.
[02:41:22]  And I don't know how it repairs itself because when Trump's gone, even if he's like a kingmaker and he says, you know, he annoys JD Vance, I do think JD Vance will be the strongest candidate, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll win.
[02:41:34]  And, you know, this sounds crazy too.
[02:41:37]  Gavin Newsom, he's an evil guy.
[02:41:39]  He slept with his, you know, chief staffer's wife.
[02:41:42]  The guy is, you know, he's doing pretty good on social media.
[02:41:45]  He's kind of a, you know, handsome guy.
[02:41:47]  He has a big family.
[02:41:49]  So I think that he might reach moderates and they're going to say, oh, we did such a poor job with California.
[02:41:53]  Well, the fact that he could win California proves to me that he can win every other.
[02:41:58]  Yeah.
[02:41:58]  So that just proves that he can win those liberal states.
[02:42:00]  He failed up consistently.
[02:42:02]  Failed in San Francisco.
[02:42:03]  Then he got elected to be the governor.
[02:42:06]  He's a complete mess.
[02:42:08]  And then Camela, I mean, Camela's terrible, but if you put AOC in that slot, I mean, I think that she's a political powerhouse, whether we want to admit it or not.
[02:42:16]  I've said this a million times.
[02:42:17]  No matter how bad she performed this weekend, which she did terribly, like nothing, she did nothing good for herself.
[02:42:22]  Doesn't matter though.
[02:42:23]  But the fact that she was there speaks about her political prowess, how well she's received.
[02:42:28]  Because otherwise, why would an individual congressperson be there if it wasn't for the fact that she's a rising star in the Democrat Party?
[02:42:34]  She has actually no power aside from her charisma and the fact that she has.
[02:42:38]  She influences power, and she's influential.
[02:42:41]  Yeah.
[02:42:41]  People give me crap all the time.
[02:42:42]  They're like, oh, she's an idiot, blah, blah, blah.
[02:42:44]  Phil, you're stupid for thinking that she could win.
[02:42:46]  It's like, you people are not paying attention to what's actually going on.
[02:42:50]  Whether or not she has good policies, whether or not she's smart, doesn't matter.
[02:42:54]  She's politically skilled and she's very charismatic.
[02:42:56]  I think that out of all the people that are possibly going to be running, I think she actually has the best.
[02:43:01]  She has the best charisma.
[02:43:02]  I don't know that she'll run this cycle, but she has the most charisma.
[02:43:07]  And if she run, if she did ran, I think that she would have the best chance.
[02:43:15]  You there?
[02:43:16]  Yep, I'm here.
[02:43:17]  Sorry.
[02:43:18]  I was waiting for prompts.
[02:43:20]  My bad.
[02:43:21]  I think it was my first time.
[02:43:22]  It's okay.
[02:43:22]  You have anything?
[02:43:24]  Go ahead.
[02:43:26]  Alex, for the record, I think you're doing a great job.
[02:43:29]  And I've seen the respect that the future leaders have, future leaders of our country have for you firsthand.
[02:43:35]  And I'm not just saying that because you were there for me to get my Florida YRs woman.
[02:43:39]  Yes, I was.
[02:43:39]  Yes, I was.
[02:43:41]  Well, I appreciate that, Sammy.
[02:43:43]  Thank you.
[02:43:44]  Yes, thank you.
[02:43:45]  Keep pushing that Overton window.
[02:43:46]  And a lot, I will say to be a respectable journalist that we respect as high IQ.
[02:43:52]  Please learn to debate.
[02:43:53]  I don't want respect from people like you.
[02:43:54]  You sound like a moron.
[02:43:55]  From the bottom of the ball.
[02:43:56]  Why are you just attacking her?
[02:43:58]  What do you mean by the same?
[02:43:59]  I mean, you're just attacking her.
[02:44:00]  I mean, she started off by that's what he has to do.
[02:44:05]  Maybe if you want to go be a good journalist, you could take your own advice and do your own reporting, and I wish you good luck with it.
[02:44:09]  And hopefully, we could have, I don't know, people like Alex Stein influence your reporting.
[02:44:13]  And you could also report on big booty Latinas and talk about that for the next one.

=== Everybody Likes Big Booty Latinas (01:36) ===

[02:44:16]  Everybody likes big booty Latinas.
[02:44:18]  Not everybody.
[02:44:19]  Not everybody.
[02:44:20]  I think everybody likes it.
[02:44:21]  They need to go back.
[02:44:22]  Wait, hold on.
[02:44:22]  You like the legal one.
[02:44:23]  Hold on.
[02:44:25]  What?
[02:44:26]  Hold on.
[02:44:26]  What do we have?
[02:44:27]  Information?
[02:44:28]  Breaking information?
[02:44:34]  Dr. Stein's Big Booty Latina Love Potion Down on Maple by the corner store.
[02:44:44]  Little blue door, crooked gold sign.
[02:44:47]  Says Dr. Alex heartache cures.
[02:44:50]  Walking lonely, walk out fine.
[02:44:52]  Shelves of jars and secret labels.
[02:44:55]  Dusty books and faded maps.
[02:44:57]  He smiles.
[02:44:59]  You look low sick, darling.
[02:45:02]  I've got just the thing for that.
[02:45:05]  Dr. Stein's big booty Latina love.
[02:45:07]  Love potion.
[02:45:10]  One little sip and your heart's in motion.
[02:45:13]  Spinning like a record.
[02:45:16]  Laughing like a child.
[02:45:18]  Shy folks dancing quiet souls wild.
[02:45:22]  Waiting glass make a sweet commotion.
[02:45:24]  To Dr. Stein's big booty Latina love potion.
[02:45:33]  Look at it.
[02:45:33]  Like the dance, too.
[02:45:38]  There's a baker from across the street.
[02:45:42]  Always.
[02:45:42]  Look at this retard.
[02:45:44]  Like this big booty stuff?
[02:45:45]  Come on.
[02:45:45]  How many people are nice every day?
[02:45:47]  Like how many people you're just going to be yelling about big booty Latinas?
[02:45:50]  Listen, you can make a lot of money.
[02:45:52]  It's just funny a lot.