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Feb. 13, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump WITHDRAWS ICE From Minnesota, ITS OVER | Timcast IRL #1448 w/ Vince Offer

Vince Offer (now "Shlomi") slams ICE’s Minnesota withdrawal, calling it a $17K-per-deportation failure despite net-negative migration, while running for Texas’ 31st Congress to fight "wokeness," suing the GOP for stripping his "Sham Wow" nickname. He warns AI-driven media and algorithmic censorship will collapse left-wing platforms like CNN post-Trump but leave right-wing channels adaptable. Critics argue his viral tactics—like mocking transgender issues or pushing "Black Wow"—undermine serious policy debates, while callers echo concerns over AI bias, Social Security taxes, and Capitol chaos. Offer’s campaign pivots to algorithm transparency, blending satire with legislative ambition, as the host teases a "ShamWow Absorb It All" skit and a tour starting April 29th. [Automatically generated summary]

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Dhs Exit Strategy 00:14:51
tim pool
And it's done, my friends.
Tom Homans announced at a press conference that the surge of DHS into Minnesota is coming to an end.
Now, very much so, Tom Homan's painting this like a victory.
We got the job done.
We've got unprecedented cooperation.
We don't need this surge anymore.
However, libertarians, many MAGA individuals are very salty on Trump, not just over this, but for a variety of reasons.
And it's resulted in some people saying this is a surrender.
He's given up.
There were a few hiccups.
It went bad for them.
Homan came in, and they've been trying to find an exit strategy.
So this is them getting out.
And the narrative right now is not so good for Trump on the immigration issue because either he's being criticized for not doing enough, no mass deportations, or for doing way too much.
There's no middle ground.
So, of course, people are none too happy.
We're going to talk about that.
And then, interestingly, you know, we haven't really talked about it a whole lot.
You can tell I'm kind of losing my voice.
We haven't talked about it a lot on this show, but the Nancy Guthrie story is massive.
And there have been some developments in this regard.
And we are being joined by our resident expert in pop culture who's going to be able to help us break this down with some new information on the ransom note.
And there's actually interesting points about modern day hostage situations and kidnappings that I think actually are destroying.
And you know, and it's sad to say, the kidnapping industry is effectively over.
It's being ruined by AI and cryptocurrencies.
How are you supposed to kidnap somebody when someone else is going to AI their voice and then pretend to be the kidnapper?
You can't even get that done anymore.
So we're going to talk about all that and a whole bunch more.
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phil labonte
He'll be there all the time just hanging out.
tim pool
He is.
Yeah.
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I'm very curious.
Vince offer.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
Offer Vince Schlomie now.
I've changed my name.
Here, in first time, letting you know.
tim pool
Thank you.
Everybody knows who you are.
When you walk, like, it's funny because we've had really high profile people.
Like, let me just put it this way.
With all due respect to Phil, Phil is a platinum rock star.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
And he comes in and some people were like, oh, cool.
It's Phil LeBonte.
You walked in and the skater guys were like, holy crap.
Like, that's the Sham Wow guy.
And really, really excited to see you here.
phil labonte
I was like, that's the Sham Wow.
tim pool
Oh, Sham Wow guy.
offer vince shlomi
I know.
I watch myself on TV.
I'm excited.
Who's that guy?
Oh, it's me.
I'm pretty excited.
No, of course.
Oh, thank you for the introduction.
That's great.
No, I just, yeah, I'm running for Congress because I just like you, like the song you just played before, the world's getting cold.
So it's just like, I want to make it warm like you're doing.
tim pool
Well, we're trying our best.
It's tough every single day, but there's actually a lot to talk about with you.
First of all, the story of, you know, Slapchop, ShamWow, the work you did, it's fascinating.
But additionally, you're running for Congress.
And interestingly, like before the show started, we were talking and you were making points that you didn't even know and we didn't even know we completely agreed on.
And I was like, this is going to be interesting.
So it's awesome to have you.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Brett is hanging out.
brett dasovic
I don't know who this expert is in the Nancy Guthrie situation, but I guess that's me today.
You tonight.
Guys, normally I am doing Pop Culture Crisis, which is live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
We will be having episode 1000 on Tuesday next week.
So you should hang out for that.
But thanks for having me.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal man, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the big news, my friends.
It is from NBC.
Trump administration says it is ending its immigration surge in Minnesota.
More than 4,000 undocumented immigrants have been apprehended since the operation began in November, according to DHS.
Speaking at a news conference, Borders R. Homan said coordination with local law enforcement and success of immigration enforcement have contributed to the end of Operation Metro surge.
I have proposed, and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude.
The announcement comes weeks after federal authorities shot and killed two U.S. citizens, sparking outrage around the nation and the world.
Homan said a significant drawdown will begin this week and will continue into next week.
He said it will remain on the ground for a little longer to ensure a successful end of the operation.
Now, we've been hearing this quite a bit from a lot of Trump supporters that immigration enforcement was a massive issue.
It was the second issue behind the economy and that Trump has not delivered.
Now, he secured the border.
Everyone agrees on that.
But you've got a lot of people saying, what has he deported?
600,000 maybe?
And there's 20 million.
At this rate, he will never get deportations done.
Not just before 2028, but before the midterms.
I want to push back a little bit and say, I know that we can be a little depressed and blackpilled sometimes here on this show, but I don't, I think it's more middle of the road.
I think Minnesota was bad for the Trump admin, but I think they finally negotiated some kind of net positive they could take from this.
I don't know what y'all expect.
If Kamala Harris got in, you'd be dealing with 20 million new illegal immigrants.
So can we at least be happy where we're at and taking a positive step?
Like, I'm glad to see some of the work is getting done.
And let's be positively promoting the administration to do a little better.
brett dasovic
Is it possible that they're just, that people have a problem with he didn't go after like the factory farms and the large-scale operations that could have netted larger numbers of deportations at one time?
And the way it's going about in neighborhoods and homes has been a PR backfire from day one.
Like it's a losing battle.
tim pool
It is.
And Trump came out and was like, the hospitality workers and farmers can stay.
And then everybody was like, what are you doing?
brett dasovic
That's what I'm saying.
Like, that's the losing battle from the beginning, right?
It's like, if there is some type of cap on where you're going to go, then you're not going to get the mass deportations.
In fact, you're choosing the ones that are hardest on the community, which means your PR battle is lost from the start.
tim pool
Yeah.
I just, I've, I, when you look at the news, the way it's being framed by the Trump admin and Tom Homan is we won.
We won.
We're done.
But for some reason, I guess because of the pessimism, because of a bunch of things people perceived as not being good enough, this looks more like a retreat and a failure.
phil labonte
Yeah, too many people are making the perfect the enemy of the good.
Look, I've got the hardest line opinion on immigration out of, I think, anyone here.
I would love to see immigration ended for at least a decade, and every single illegal should go back to where they come from.
So it doesn't get any more hard line than my perspective.
But at the same time, I can't look at the reality of the situation, the options that we had, and say that Trump isn't the better option or hasn't been the better option.
We got net negative migration.
We have people that are opting to leave.
Just today, I was reading some tweets where people that are in custody, they're deciding to leave because I guess if they're going to try and fight, they stay in custody.
But if they're just going to say, okay, well, I'm just going to go back to my home country.
They go, okay, cool, and let them go.
And the more people that you get to leave the country through whatever means is possible, right?
Whether it be paying them $2,600 and buying their plane ticket, grabbing them off the street and throwing them in jail and putting them on a plane, or whether they decide that they get tired of being in custody.
And so they leave.
I don't care what it is.
Whatever gets them to leave is what we should do.
I would love to see the administration go after employers that employ illegals.
Absolutely.
I would love to see more people.
I would love to see the administration go after people that rent homes to illegals or rentals.
tim pool
Knowingly.
offer vince shlomi
But I like what you said and also what you said about because it's not really completely their fault for coming in.
I mean, it's really the Biden's problem because they brought him in and incentivized.
They come on in.
So, yeah, I mean, so there's maybe a middle ground where we can give them, look, we know that we told you to come in.
Not us, but the previous Biden.
So let's take a little responsibility for that.
So why don't we give them some money?
Like, here, look, $3,000 to $5,000.
We'll send you back and we'll put you on a list.
That seems like a nice middle ground.
tim pool
It's a little more.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
And Trump Edmonds doing that.
unidentified
Oh, they are.
tim pool
Yeah, yes.
phil labonte
$2,600.
unidentified
Here's the cost.
phil labonte
$2,600.
That's what you're saying because it's less money.
Oh, to give it less to give them $2,600 to go back and start the process or whatever.
Because if they leave of their own volition, they can start the process and try and come back legally.
offer vince shlomi
And that's fair.
phil labonte
And the $2,600 is cheaper than what it costs for person.
offer vince shlomi
It's maybe a little bit more because it wasn't completely, like I said, completely their fault.
Because if I was in South America, I'd go away.
tim pool
But I think you're being nice.
But the Trump admin's view of it is what's going to spend us, what, $17,000 per deportation or something like that, right?
Was it the number?
phil labonte
Phil.
Yeah, $2,600.
tim pool
No, no, no.
$17,000 is the total cost of a standard deportation.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure.
And so they basically said, why don't we just give them a couple grand and a return flight home?
That way they're incentivized to leave.
The view from the Trump admin and the pitch is not that it's not your fault.
It's, well, it is your fault, but it's cheaper if we do it this way and you can reapply and come back later.
phil labonte
The reapply part is a big deal because if you get picked up and they send you out, you can never come back ever.
You will never be a citizen.
If you come back, you will always be illegal.
If you go and leave of your own volition with the app that they've got, they'll give you money and you can start your paperwork and then you can come back the right way.
I mean, you have to go back to the end of the line, which is difficult, but whatever.
tim pool
You're running for office in Texas, right?
unidentified
Right.
offer vince shlomi
Texas, 31st district, 31st, north of Austin, just north of Austin.
We're trying to keep the weird wokeness from metastasizing into our district.
So that's what I'm going to try to do.
tim pool
But that's what I was going to ask about because we know that the southern border of Texas used to be very blue and it started shifting red and the immigration crisis got really bad.
And I know that Austin is a weird, it's relatively woke, but Texas is shifted red, but it could be a little purple.
And so I was curious, you know, for the district you're running in and for what you're seeing, how much has illegal immigration been an issue for you?
I mean, Robert's talking about Minnesota.
You guys are on the border.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, I mean, I just moved there last year, but it's not that bad now, but it was bad before.
But the incumbent that was there, John Carter, wasn't at the border a couple of years ago.
He wasn't stopping them or doing anything.
And now he says he's stuff on the border.
Of course, Trump fixed that.
But I'm also there, not just for the border, but for all the other crap.
That's the wokeness that's coming in.
Because like you said, Austin is like a very nice place, very nice people, artsy people, and woke loves to go where there's nice.
They love nice.
I'm trying to teach the Northern District to be tough love.
There's nice, and it's tough love.
Every time I've been nice, people take advantage of me.
And that's even going right now when just to let you know, I signed up as Offer Vince Shamois Schlomby with my nickname because everybody knows me is Sham Wow.
And then they just recently, six, like a couple of weeks ago, pulled my nickname unbeknownst to me after I got all these advertisements and took my Shamois name out.
So no one now, when the voters go in and try to vote for me, they're not going to see it.
So, yeah, so I'm really upset about that.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
offer vince shlomi
I'm a little nervous about it.
Hopefully, they'll vote.
I mean, I'll probably lose 30% of the votes because of that.
tim pool
The interesting thing was I knew your name was Vince Offer.
Yeah.
And I thought you changed your name as like a play on being a pitch man selling products.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
But your name actually is Offer Vince.
offer vince shlomi
Offer Vince Schlomy.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
And they wanted to keep that.
And I said, can I put Shan Wow in there as a nickname?
So they got it approved.
The Secretary of State approved it.
And the GOP approved it.
And then I got it notarized and I got all the campaign or the commercial.
I think you saw the commercial where that fetus goes, vote for Shan Wow, right?
But now they took it out and I'm kind of a little sad.
So yeah, someone in Washington, D.C. called in and got it out.
Probably, it's called the company's called National Republican Congressional Committee, and they took it out.
And that's really upsetting because I might lose ups.
tim pool
Well, they don't want you to win.
offer vince shlomi
They don't want to win.
It's like Kid Rock going for office and then we're taking his name out.
Shan Wow's Demise 00:03:57
offer vince shlomi
And Robert Richie James.
Who the hell knows Robert Richie James?
unidentified
Who's that?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
So the voters are not going to vote.
Anyway, sorry for offshooting.
Well, you could be talking about the other thing.
unidentified
Sorry, Paul.
tim pool
You got time.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
You got time.
phil labonte
Yeah, when is the...
offer vince shlomi
Well, no, no, they can't change it now.
So I have to.
I got all donations.
I got donations and we're pushing Shan Wow.
And I even got, you know, this was the vote Shan Wow guy.
But then when they pulled Shan Wa out, now I got to go vote Shlomi.
So I got to rebrand myself now.
So it's like an uphill battle.
So I don't know.
I thought I was going to win, but now it's like 50-50 to see.
But, you know, we'll see.
tim pool
You have to just completely remake the Shan Wow commercial where it says Shlomi instead of Shlomi.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
Call the product the Shlomi.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I have a question for you.
So me and you, Phil, have talked in the past about gun laws and the fact that it's become an issue that's become, it's a bit of a losing issue for Democrats.
It doesn't work the way that it used to.
Is there any world in which we one day see immigration in the same light or will it always be on the table the way it is now?
Like is one of the is the idea here that if you push hard enough right now, even if you're not getting the deportation numbers that you want, like you can get it into the public consciousness and get Americans to understand the damage in which what illegal immigration does and turns it into an issue similar to gun rights where people are like, I'm not compromising bullish on this.
phil labonte
I think there is a segment of the right that has that opinion now, where they're like, there's, you know, no compromise, no, no anything.
And I think that those are the people that are the most upset with Donald Trump, right?
Donald Trump ran when he first came down the elevator, the escalator in 2015 and announced the very first thing he said was, you know, they're sending rapists, they're sending the drug users, blah, blah, blah.
And the whole media just freaked out.
But he stood by, you know, he stood on his principles and he's like, no, this is a serious issue.
And I think that he really did make the case and people have seen it.
Now, Biden helped by opening up the border.
Biden has done as much damage to public opinion on immigration as anyone.
And because people are seeing it so succinctly, it's so right in front of their face.
But yeah, I do think that it's not going to change the way people think.
I think that people are upset with Trump because he's decided that he's not going to try to get rid of the workers that are here that are illegal and stuff.
As for will it be a losing issue for the left, I don't know because the people.
brett dasovic
Is it possible in the future, like with enough time?
phil labonte
I think, honestly, I don't think the time is the deciding factor.
I think that it's damage.
So the more people are aware of the negative effects of immigration, the more people will calcify behind no immigration or, you know, I want to have more deportations and stuff.
Because even now, even after all the stuff that happened in Minneapolis, the squishy Republicans, yeah, they were like, oh, I don't want to see this and stuff.
But the hardcore, you know, far right or right-wingers like myself, like they were not moved.
I was not moved.
I was like, this is what I want to see.
And because I'm aware of the people that were fighting back, they were all politically motivated.
It was all progressives or communists or socialists, whatever you want to call it.
Those were the people that were out in force protesting and trying to fight with the cops and stuff.
And it was all manufactured, right?
And none of it was grassroots.
It was all astroturf.
So I wasn't moved by any of the stuff that went on.
And I think there's a significant segment of the Republican base that still is like, I don't care.
That's what I wanted to see.
I wanted to see people getting deported.
brett dasovic
Well, they're doing that right now with voting rights, where they're like, these are all the hurdles that somebody will have to jump through if the SAVE Act is passed.
Like if you were married or if you're divorced and all of these things.
And people are like, I don't care.
It should still be a law.
Cnn's Future Uncertain 00:15:00
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And with that particular issue, like the popularity of it is like 85% of the country, 93% of Republicans, I think, 71% of Democrats are saying, yeah, you should have to show ID.
And you're seeing movement on the hill, too.
Like there's only four senators that are holding out now.
It's McConnell, the Alaska and Maine senators, I forget their names, they're the same person.
And I think Tom Till from North Carolina is still holding out.
But that's it.
And even Fetterman's come over to say, no, I would vote for it.
brett dasovic
Time Fetterman 2028.
phil labonte
You know, so I mean, I could imagine, not that I think that it's going to happen, but I could imagine another Democrat saying, you know, actually, that's probably not a bad idea.
My constituents have been calling my office and they really do want to see this as well.
tim pool
So let's jump to this next story.
We got this one from PJ Media.
CNN is circling the drain as Warner buyout heats up.
phil labonte
There is a God.
tim pool
Well, we've heard the story quite a bit that CNN is dead.
I honestly think CNN is dead.
And I think CNN exists only in the imagination of conservatives.
And you think I'm joking.
I'm not.
brett dasovic
Even then, when you see clips now, they're not nearly as, at least the ones that I see posted aren't the same type of Trump hating clips that I saw five, 10 years ago.
tim pool
The reality is conservatives like to bring up CNN as this anti-Trump boogeyman monster because they're traumatized.
Because 10 years ago, CNN had viewership and was lying incessantly and insulting.
And I'm not trying to say Trump is perfect, but CNN was literally just the anti-Trump channel.
Today, CNN has no viewers.
And I saw this story and I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay, we get it.
CNN circling the drain.
I pulled up the ad week ratings.
Get this.
And this is not good for Fox News either.
CNN averaged 753,000 primetime viewers.
142,000 were in the key demo 25 to 54.
They're down by between 9 and 16% in the demo compared to the previous week.
In their total daytime, total daytime, 527,000 viewers, 85,000 in the demo.
Guys, I got to tell you something.
Do you know how much money you will make on a video that gets 85,000 viewers?
You're going to get $300?
CNN is running a multi-million dollar studio with high-profile personalities, and they're getting ratings for their whole show that could not buy a pair of Yeezy sneakers.
brett dasovic
Yeah, with actual ads being bought for there as well.
tim pool
Is that what they're called?
They're called Yeezys.
unidentified
Yeezys.
tim pool
Yeah, I have some.
They were expensive.
unidentified
Why'd you get them?
tim pool
Because Ye was coming on the show.
brett dasovic
Oh, did you wear them on the show?
You should have worn them on the show.
Put your feet up.
offer vince shlomi
Shows karma is a bitch because when you harm someone of good intentions in general, I think it just comes back at you.
brett dasovic
Fox is suffering too.
It's more about the decentralization of media and just the fact that the landscape is changing.
offer vince shlomi
Fox is weird a little bit too.
They're kind of on some on some assets.
tim pool
Yeah, they're very, they're very like stodgy corporate, you know, but they had one point.
Here's the important thing to understand.
Fox had 1.725 million total viewers.
175,000 were in the key demo, 25 to 54.
I'm just going to let you guys in on some, okay?
About 78, 80% of our viewers are key demo.
And this show does about 600, 700K per night.
We're in the political offseason, too.
When we start getting into the midterms and the cycle and all that stuff, Fox, CNN, MS now, they're going to see a spike in viewership, as will we.
But I was shocked to see that we're actually doing substantially better than all these networks.
That kind of freaked me out.
Because we're not big relative to the size of what media used to be.
I mean, 10 years ago, CNN was getting legit 3 million in the key demo.
Now they're getting 85,000.
I think people don't realize how much our culture has fractured into a million pieces.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, that's a symptom of having the internet in your pocket.
You know, you can just have whatever your outlet of choice is fed directly to you, and that's where you get your news.
And that's actually a problem Apple's running into now.
Apple's going to, it's, Apple might end up with some issues with the FCC because all of the Apple news stuff is all from the left, left-wing or far left.
And I saw Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman, he was tweeting about it.
So, you know.
brett dasovic
That's weird.
It's funny too, because Tim Cook has visited Trump and I was trying to explain to people, it's like, there's a reason why all of these CEOs went to meet him.
They all want to kiss the ring anyways, even if they don't agree with him.
Even if they're actually creating content that runs counter to his programming or to what Trump wants them to know or wants them to put out, they're still going to go and try and talk to him.
phil labonte
And to be fair, like, look, Tim Cook runs the whole show, and he's at the end of the day, the buck's going to stop with him.
But he might not even be aware that the news division does that.
Or, you know, he might, he might be like, yeah, okay, these are all fine.
And it might not even like register with him that there's no right-wing perspectives going on.
So like I said, now the buck stops with him.
I'm not making excuses for him, but it does show it's completely within the realm of possibility that he isn't aware and he needs to buckle down on the news outlet.
brett dasovic
It will be interesting to see what happens with CNN given the merger or the purchase of Warner Brothers from Netflix, which is still at the moment going forward, but it's not, obviously, they're not buying the television stations.
They're buying the streaming service in the studio.
So they're going to split off Discovery and that's going to be its own thing.
And we'll have to see what happens there.
News is dying there.
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for CNN.
I think that they're likely going to be, you know, this is going to continue because they built a brand on just not just hating Donald Trump, which obviously they do, but they hate conservatives.
They hate Middle America.
And nowadays, Red America is the working class.
It's the average, the average Joe.
The left has really taken the extremely wealthy and the people that are on some kind of government assistance and made a coalition out of that.
brett dasovic
We hit 19 million on the YouTube channel for CNN.
And videos do like between 46 and 190,000.
On the last two videos, one three hours ago, 46,000, one from 13 hours ago, 190,000.
There's one down there under that, 7,000.
unidentified
Yikes.
phil labonte
I mean, it's definitely not.
tim pool
David Pacman had a video where he accused Trump of pooping his pants.
I got 2 million.
Yeah, well, this is why we are doomed to retardation.
And then, as it turns out, so I don't know if you guys saw the video I did earlier about David.
He made this video where literally nothing happened.
At some point, liberals just decided to claim that Trump crapped his pants.
There's no reason to believe he did.
There's no fart sound.
There's no, like literally nothing happened.
Someone just said it.
And then there's the sound of what appears like Trump going like that on the desk.
And they're like, that was a fart.
And it's like, okay.
And then like two or three minutes later, they go, okay, everybody, time to go.
And they're like, that proves it.
So David Benton makes a video saying like press rushed out after Trump poops his pants.
It gets 2 million views.
In that video, David clenches up and goes, and you can hear a weird kind of noise.
And so I gave him the same treatment he gave Trump.
And I'm like, if you're going to tense up on camera and then make a weird noise, I'm going to accuse you of pooping your pants too.
The point is we are swimming in a sea of psychosis and garbage.
And, you know, I've been talking about how AI is the apocalypse for some time, and I don't think people really understand.
They don't believe it.
They tell me I'm wrong.
There are AI videos on YouTube with hundreds of thousands of views.
Okay.
Understand what that means.
It means shows like this can't compete.
That's it.
It's over.
Guys, we're done.
It's going to happen.
It's coming.
Thank you and have a nice day.
brett dasovic
I'm actually AI on our show.
I don't even go into the office anymore.
I just put it in front of the screen.
tim pool
It is really, you know, someone, I think Andrew Tate might have made this point.
If you are not using AI, I think this point like a year ago, if you're not using AI for your media business, you've already lost.
And so the truth is, even for us, you know, we do fairly well.
It's like kind of crazy when we look at cable news ratings and we do double or triple their numbers in the key demo.
But the reason why it's shocking is because we're relatively small to where things used to be.
But there's no way for me to compete with 10,000 channels.
So I'll tell you guys a secret.
It's not really a secret.
I just call it it.
In like 2018 is when my YouTube channel started taking off and making money.
It was around the time I launched my channel, Timcast News.
So I was doing one 10-minute video every day at 4 p.m. on youtube.com slash Timcast.
And then I launched a second channel because it's like if that channel gets banned, you'll have a second channel.
Even though it's against the rules still, everyone was doing it.
And then I had a few stories that were interesting, but I didn't have time to make a longer four minute or 4 p.m. segment.
So I said, I'll just hit record real quick and then just throw them up.
Instantly, they started getting tons of views.
So then I started doing five videos on that channel per day and one on my main channel.
And the reason why that channel grew was not because my content was good, partially.
It was because I was buying more lottery tickets than anybody else.
So a bunch of conservatives were going, man, you know, my videos aren't getting any views anymore.
What's happening?
See, what happens is if you put up one video per day, you're competing with me who's putting up right now today, like, I think 20.
And so one of the reasons we've been competitive is that on the front page of YouTube, you tend to get 10 to 15 videos at once.
People usually aren't going to scroll.
They're going to click whatever videos they see.
If my thumbnail is better or more interesting and you click mine over everyone else's, YouTube will recommend it more.
So consider it this.
You have purchased one lottery ticket per day and thrown it in the bucket and I'm buying 20.
And then YouTube is grabbing at random 15.
Guess what?
You aren't in it.
So this meant that because I was working substantially more, my videos were more likely to get recommended.
And because they were more likely to get recommended, they were more likely to get clicked on.
So the algorithm was more likely to promote it over your video.
So in the long run, many conservatives saw their video views go down.
And then in 2020, my Tim Cast and Tim Cast News and Timcast IRL combined was the most viewed, I guess you'd call it moderate to right-leaning channel on YouTube, doing about 180 million views per month.
Insane.
Massive numbers.
We are making a crazy amount of money.
Today, the challenge is every day, there's like 100 new AI channels, schlop dropping nonstop.
And by that same logic, it means that the 20 or so lottery tickets we're buying are up against 50,000 now produced by these other random people, companies, or even a single guy just ran a bot.
And so what that means is over a long enough period of time, we are dealing with attrition where you are less likely to see our videos, so you are less likely to click on them, and you are less likely to then be recommended, meaning you are less likely to see the videos, meaning we are entering along with everybody else exponential down like death curves.
And what I will say for people like David Pacman is that dude, he's got a couple years left.
Once Trump is out, you know, Brian Tyler Cohen and David Pacman got nothing to talk about.
brett dasovic
You think there's right-wing channels that have that same problem?
tim pool
Nope.
brett dasovic
You don't think so?
tim pool
Hassan Piker will be okay.
He talks about everything.
brett dasovic
No, I'm saying right-wing channels.
I know.
tim pool
Okay.
I know.
I'm saying it's not everybody on the left who's going to go down.
It's the people who only ever talk about Trump.
We're seeing it with CNN.
They dedicated themselves to being the anti-Trump channel.
David Pacman's basically stolen all their viewers, but that's not going to last once Trump's out of office, unless Trump declares himself emperor.
And to be honest, yeah, okay, just do it already.
I'm so over all of this, right?
Like the Save Act gets passed, and they're like, women can't vote.
And I'm like, oh, you know what?
Fine.
You're right.
Women can't vote.
Okay.
Emperor Trump, just come.
I'm out of here.
I'm going to go by Taco Bell and just put my feet up and watch the chickens.
phil labonte
I mean, I do think that when Donald Trump leaves, like, there's going to be a significant falloff.
Donald Trump just rubs people the wrong way.
They're going to try to turn whoever is the nominee for the Republicans into the same thing.
Yeah, I don't think it'll work because people already decided that when the left is calling you Nazi and calling you all these names, that's just their M.O.
They were doing it to Mitt Romney.
In fact, the fact that they were doing it to Mitt Romney was part of why you got Donald Trump.
Because they were like, look, the Republicans continued to put forth the most milquetoast, the most appeasing, the most nice guy they could come up with trying to placate all the vitriol that was thrown at them by the left.
And when you got to Mitt Romney, the ultimate Boy Scout, right?
Like the guy that was likely the cleanest guy in DC and the nicest, most amicable person they could come up with on the right.
And they still called him all that stuff.
So the right was just like, you know what?
Screw it.
Give me the guy that says grab him by the P.
They were like, I don't care.
They're like, if this guy will punch back, the what?
Pooter.
Yeah, there you go.
They were like, if this guy will punch back, then fine.
Because the right has gotten to the point where the left had just thrown so much vitriol and so much BS and consistently just insulted and insulted.
They were like, well, we don't care because you're going to do this anyway.
So why not give the guy that at least fight back?
And so they're going to try it with whoever comes next because that's their M.O. That's all they've got.
tim pool
Yeah.
Right now, one of the things that we're facing in this country, which is a bit demoralizing, is the redistricting stuff.
I'm sure you've probably seen this.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
They're getting rid of swing districts.
So, I mean, you're running in a primary against a Republican.
offer vince shlomi
Right.
So whoever wins that will win.
unidentified
Right.
offer vince shlomi
Democrat.
I mean, I guess there's more people that left California and New York and went to Texas.
So I guess the redistricting makes sense because there's more Republicans now.
unidentified
Right.
offer vince shlomi
So that could make sense.
tim pool
Well, the Republicans lost this fight.
Indiana was like, we're not going to do it because we cut a deal with Maryland.
And Maryland was like, we're going to do it anyway.
And now Virginia is planning on doing it.
Maryland wants to get rid of their last Republican.
Virginia's going to get rid of all but one.
And then the midterm election is not going to be an actual election.
It's just going to be which state has control.
Swing Districts Disappearing 00:07:18
tim pool
And the Republicans are losing this battle.
offer vince shlomi
I see.
So the swing state is not going to be swing states anymore.
tim pool
Exactly.
It's going to be if there's a slight majority in one direction, they will dominate the whole state and ice out the voices of any opposition.
So I'm kind of just like, at this point, we are off the precipice.
The roller coaster is dropped.
What comes next is fairly obvious.
Yeah.
I'll just put it like this.
Obvious in the sense that I don't know what form it takes, but there's clearly no elections anymore.
If all the districts are either going to be blue or red with no chance of representation, you know, Massachusetts being a great example, 40% Republicans, zero representatives, then either we just lay down and let the machine take over or people start fighting.
phil labonte
Well, the Republicans have to actually start exercising power.
And it's frustrating to see that they are, you know, again, it's Lucy with the football.
The Republicans are like, okay, we're actually going to play fair and we're going to stop doing this stuff.
Oh, yeah, totally.
We're going to.
And then as soon as they go up to kick the ball, Lucy moves the ball and they get clowned on again.
It's going to continue happening.
The left has a very easy to understand playbook.
And the right just refuses to read rules for radicals.
They refuse to read the playbook that the Democrats use.
They refuse to exercise power.
The fact that they still have the filibuster, knowing full well that the Democrats are going to get in there, they're going to end the filibuster.
They're going to try to expand the court.
They're going to do everything they can to ensure that they can undo the things that Donald Trump has done.
Any legislation passed, they're going to try and undo.
And every Republican, every conservative, everyone on the right should be fully aware of that fact.
And they still don't exercise power the way that they need to.
And their constituents, I mean, they're going to lose seats in the House.
They're going to lose their constituents.
The constituents are going to be like, we don't want to vote for you.
People are going to stay home.
And it's their own damn fault.
brett dasovic
They're already demoralized.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
That's why my slogan is make America grow some balls again.
phil labonte
There you go.
offer vince shlomi
What do you think about that?
I was going to say Cajon is, but I don't know if that works in Texas.
tim pool
It's good.
Where'd the balls go?
offer vince shlomi
Yes.
tim pool
No, but well, I guess they got surgically removed.
offer vince shlomi
They're all becoming trans.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
Well, you know, it's a res taking that slogan.
tim pool
You're an edgy guy.
You offend a lot of people.
You know, like, what happened to this country?
We grew up on George Carlin and South Park and The Simpsons and Family Guy, and now everybody's a bunch of whiny babies.
offer vince shlomi
Well, that's why I'm running for Congress because I see that, okay, algorithms, celebrity media, big tech with the San Francisco staff, they're all infiltrating the children.
They're not going after the nursing homes.
They're going after the children.
So they're creating an army.
So when Trump leaves, like he was saying, they can then have, once they get the institutions, they can use that army to censor everybody, cancel people, and put them in jail, whatever.
Because that's kind of like the MO of the left.
Censor, cancel, ban, and torture death.
So that's why I say to the people who are not standing up to grow some balls again.
Yeah.
Even hockey players, they made them wear the LGBT flag, and they all wear it.
What does homosexuality have to do with hockey and getting kids?
And none of the athletes are standing up.
So I'm like, wait a minute.
Why am I obviously you're standing up, but the good people are not standing up because they're in fear of being canceled.
So, we need to like get rid of the cancel culture and undo what's going on with these kids.
Put a ring camera.
We got to ring cameras every home, right?
Put a ring camera in the house.
I mean, sorry, not a house in the schools.
phil labonte
To that point, that was one of the silver linings of COVID: people saw what their kids were learning in school.
They saw, you know, the kids were taking classes at home and they saw what the teachers were teaching.
And they were like, wait a minute, hold on a second.
What is this stuff?
There was a lot of parents that got really upset about that stuff.
Rightfully so.
And so, as much as I don't want to say that COVID was a good thing, it was horrible for the government to do the things they did.
And there's all kinds of negatives.
There were a couple of silver linings, and that was one of them.
tim pool
Well, the slogan, of course, Megsba.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Mexba.
Make America aggressive and bulls again.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, maximum.
tim pool
I like magsba.
Megsba.
offer vince shlomi
You hear it right now from the guy who bought you pool water with the sham wow coaster.
tim pool
If you poured that pool water.
offer vince shlomi
If you buy a pool water, we'll give you a free mini sham wow.
tim pool
Well, I don't know who's doing that.
offer vince shlomi
Can we do that?
Just to leave it here for the spells.
tim pool
I would like to do that.
We could try and figure out how to do that.
unidentified
Yeah, freaking around.
tim pool
So election day is on the 17th or on the 3rd.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, but I have to remind people: sham wow is shlo me now.
Shlomi is shamo because my name is my nickname's not on the ballot anymore.
Someone took it out.
It's like the dirty, it's like the swamp.
They don't want the clean water to come in anymore.
tim pool
Are you going like door to door and doing that kind of stuff?
offer vince shlomi
You know what?
I'm actually, I am personally going to do with my street team and I'm putting this little mini sham wow with the flyer, putting it by the door.
tim pool
Free sham wow?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, free mini.
It's a mini one.
It's a swamp for the kitchen.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
It doesn't cost much, but it saves money at people's house.
So hopefully they'll be using it and remembering.
And I still look pretty good after a few years.
tim pool
Your slogan should probably be like, I will clean up this town.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, clean up this.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
I'm cleaning up.
But I just, you know, like I said, when they pulled my nickname, it's like, not only am I cleaning the swamp, I've got to clean the house.
Like, it's coming from the rafters.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Well, if you, there's a great opportunity for doing a pitch where you like put a sham wow in a swamp.
I like to soak it all up.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, see, he's making a commercial for me.
I like it.
You know, commercial for him?
What are you going to make a commercial for me?
tim pool
Here's my vision: is that you walk up to a swamp and then you just throw a sham wow in it and it soaks all the water up and then all of the neocons and woke are being exposed like little germs.
offer vince shlomi
Like you said, the AI could probably do it like in an hour.
We could have one right now.
tim pool
I'm going to see if I can actually do that.
offer vince shlomi
Oh my God.
This is amazing.
phil labonte
Yeah, I can definitely do it right away.
Really?
offer vince shlomi
We could put it out right now.
phil labonte
Five minutes.
offer vince shlomi
We'll say sham wow.
I'm going to have you as my campaign manager, Tim.
You got a job, babe.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Well, I already have a job.
offer vince shlomi
Okay.
phil labonte
Like five years.
offer vince shlomi
You can't afford it.
unidentified
You're going to be for you.
tim pool
You do a swamp and exposes.
brett dasovic
So you think, so do you think pulling the nickname off the ballot was on purpose?
offer vince shlomi
Yes, especially six.
It's already been approved by the Secretary of State.
It was motorized.
I went ahead and spent money on commercials.
tim pool
It was the NRCC you said that did?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, National Republican Congress.
And then what I found out is that they're run by the incumbents.
So they use it to fight the small guys, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
So that's so corrupt.
tim pool
And then when you get into office, they make you give them money.
Matt Gates was telling us about it.
But they were like, if you want any committee assignments, you got to write us a check right now.
And based on your district, it's a different number.
So he said that he was like, what can I get for half a million dollars?
Like, you have any assignment you want.
It's like, okay.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So he wrote him a check and then they put him on, I think, what do you get like Armed Services Committee or something?
Chilling New Ransom Mystery 00:04:58
phil labonte
Yep.
offer vince shlomi
I know I have to clean up the swamp, but I got to clean up my own house now.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
I was literally the House of Representatives.
Come on.
Let's not do that.
unidentified
It's not that.
offer vince shlomi
So that's what I'm going to do.
In some ways, it's good because you know where the zombies are.
Like even when Trump lost to 2020 election, I kind of liked it because then you saw where the FBI was corrupt.
You saw the media was corrupt.
You saw where all the bad guys are.
So now when he comes in now, he knows where to take them out now.
See, I like that.
In some ways, it's kind of good.
Like, oh, okay.
So you guys are corrupted, Secretary Upstate.
You're corrupted, Texas GOP, and you're corrupted.
NRCC.
unidentified
Okay, good.
offer vince shlomi
So they don't know what to do.
phil labonte
It's worth pointing out that the silver lining is going.
And as much as, you know, people were upset that Donald Trump won or Donald Trump lost, lost in 2022.
If he didn't, he wouldn't have had such insight when he came back.
And again, as much as people are unhappy with how much he's got done now, because they were expecting, there's a lot of people I think that were expecting Donald Trump to come in and just be a dictator and say, this is happening, this is happening.
The president never had the power to do the things that they were hoping for, but they were still hoping for it.
So even though they're upset, he's still done a whole lot of good things.
And he's done a lot of things that people really did want, but the big things that they were hoping for, he hasn't been able to do.
So there's a lot of people that are still like, well, he hasn't done this and hasn't done that.
tim pool
I have a question.
Let's jump to this story.
I admittedly know very little about, and despite the fact the story is deeply unsettling and tragic, I don't care.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
Savannah Guthrie's missing mom live updates, chilling new ransom notes, has warning for Nancy Guthrie's family.
This is crushing the news cycle for women.
Guys don't care.
And so the actual story is why.
phil labonte
Why don't guys care?
tim pool
You know, no, yes.
I mean, like, my take on this right now is.
brett dasovic
The same thing is true crime.
unidentified
Women like true crime.
offer vince shlomi
They love crime.
That's true women.
tim pool
But the question is why?
And I actually think I have an idea because it's incomplete, nothing.
So true crime stories, like the Nancy Guthrie thing.
And again, with all the respect to their family, I hope everyone's okay.
I hope they figure this one out.
It's very serious and tragic.
But I feel like you give me an article, you give me a sentence, and I know where we're at with it.
Women tend to like these stories where nothing happens, where it's like a criminal.
I'm like, I mean, what about him?
It's like, he was there.
brett dasovic
But it leads to speculation, right?
Like, this is the story that made me check out recently when they're like, it doesn't look like her hand looks AI.
It looks like there's six fingers there.
She was clearly just holding her sister's hand.
I'm like, I can't anymore, dude.
I can't.
Just, I'm out of it.
Like, I'm out of this type of stuff.
I can't read the conspiracy stuff anymore.
offer vince shlomi
I love mystery.
I don't know.
I never, I never, I like more action.
I mean, what is the mystery?
tim pool
Women, women like shows where nothing gets resolved.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, lost.
offer vince shlomi
Never resolved.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
I never thought of it that way.
brett dasovic
I mean, both genders loved lost.
tim pool
Yeah, but I feel like more women.
brett dasovic
I mean, I don't have the numbers on that, but I would say it was probably pretty split.
tim pool
Like, guys watch news where things are definitive.
Like, when we make videos and we're like tracking metrics, we have to assert something.
Questions don't work.
Mystery doesn't work.
The Nancy Guthrie story has resolved nothing.
brett dasovic
So you're saying that J.J. Abrams' whole thing is all for women for the mystery box?
tim pool
Absolutely.
I mean, you look at his movies, too.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
Now I'm curious.
I want to look at what the gender demographics were for Lost.
offer vince shlomi
Let's make a mystery movie for women.
There you go.
And just never, and it never ends.
Like you said.
Well, so I mean, part one, part two.
tim pool
I'm going to say this too, and it's going to sound disrespectful, I guess.
But, you know, as we're getting ready for the show, we have Fox News on and Laura Ingram's show came on.
And it felt like it was painful for her to cover the Guthrie story because she was talking like this.
And I was like, wow, you must have nothing to say about this.
And I don't either.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm just looking at the New York Post and you can see this.
Ten times the viewership reading a story with nothing.
Chilling new ransom note.
There's nothing there.
There's literally no news.
offer vince shlomi
That's why I don't know about it myself.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know.
It says, I feel like I'm just going to like, Brett, you're supposed to know about it.
brett dasovic
No, this is, this is news news.
unidentified
No, it's not.
tim pool
It's Savannah Guthrie.
What are you talking about?
brett dasovic
It's news news.
It's a crime.
tim pool
But she's on TV, you know?
brett dasovic
He is adding stuff to my job description that has nothing to do with what I do.
We spoke about James Vanderbeek's $1 million GoFundMe today.
tim pool
That was a bummer.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was sad.
He was, what was it, 48?
brett dasovic
He was 48.
tim pool
Man.
Why is that not bigger news?
brett dasovic
I mean, it was a pretty big story.
I mean, mostly it's because people in the space now, it's been kind of, they've used it to kind of shift the discussion because this is an actor where like they're like, what was his net worth?
Three, maybe four million.
Swedish Guy's Comedy Central Venture 00:06:49
brett dasovic
There was like a couple of different estimates.
How does this guy, you know, how does even a rich celebrity in America still have to have a GoFundMe started for him after he dies to take care of his family?
And this was a dude with six kids, been married since I believe 2010, believed in God.
For all intents and purposes, he's kind of one of the examples I would give to conservatives to be like, look, not every actor is like a baby's blood drinking demon like everybody wants to paint them all out to be.
But still, now they're turning it into a discussion about universal health care because how does this guy die broke because he got cancer in 2023?
tim pool
Man, that's crazy.
brett dasovic
I have the same issue with the Savannah Guthrie.
It's all speculation at this point.
It's like, I just don't care.
Like people, once it started becoming like they're using it as a distraction for the Epstein files, I'm like, bro, I'm out of here.
I can't do this right now.
tim pool
I want to go back in time to 2008 when I was sitting there on YouTube.
brett dasovic
A financial crisis.
tim pool
And a man pulled out a small device to chop up his nuts.
unidentified
Oh.
offer vince shlomi
It's all about the nuts.
tim pool
Yeah.
I didn't know this, but I thought you were like a hired spokesperson for these products, but you actually own them.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
Billy Mays was a little jealous of me because he was the higher spokesperson.
tim pool
Yeah, he was smack talking you, wasn't he?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, he was just mad because I own, because I just came in and just took over.
I owned the products.
And he never, like OxyClean, he never owned it.
So when they sold it to a big company, he never.
tim pool
Unilever or something?
unidentified
Huh?
tim pool
Unilever.
brett dasovic
Like everything is owned by Unilever now.
unidentified
Yeah, one of them.
tim pool
Or Procter ⁇ Gamble.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, Procter ⁇ Gamble.
That's it.
tim pool
They own it.
offer vince shlomi
So he was a little jealous, but that's okay.
tim pool
Is that why he was ragging on you?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, a little bit.
I don't know why.
But also, you know, I write my own scripts and you were better than he was.
But I was throwing humor because I was thinking, people are going to sleep at two in the morning.
We got to wake them up.
They got to pick up the phone.
Who wants to pick up the phone at two in the morning?
So you got to, I just thought some of the jokes, I mean, you can all remote.
It's just a generic joke.
But in retrospect, during that time, no one was doing that kind of thing.
tim pool
But like, how did you come to own these products?
offer vince shlomi
Well, I was selling the chamois.
Actually, there was a Swedish guy in LA that looked just like me, and a lot of girls liked him.
Some girls used to come up to me, are you the Swedish guy?
And I'm like, yeah, sure.
I did anyway.
And we finally met.
I told him the story.
And then he hired me, and he was selling stuff at the Swabi.
And he was selling the chambies.
So anyway, I was selling chamis before I became the Shamo guy.
So I never brought it to TV.
I did a movie called Underground Comedy Movie.
Slash was in it from Guns N' Roses.
He was the Miss America Bag Lady Pageant.
We had like supermodels taking a dump.
So it was like really raunching humor and all the critics hated it.
So I didn't make my money back.
So I put that on Comedy Central as an 800 number and that sold millions of units.
unidentified
What?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
phil labonte
Really?
offer vince shlomi
On Comedy Central.
But then I could only put on Comedy Central from 11 p.m. to 2.
And then I thought, well, why don't I do something where I can put it on every channel?
I said, well, I used to sell Sham Wows with that Swedish guy.
So why don't I call it Sham Wow?
And then that's where I put, that's when I made money on every channel.
tim pool
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
And that's how I got into the Sham Wow from the movie.
I got criticized for being the worst movie ever, man.
tim pool
Crazy chain of it.
brett dasovic
That's important, though.
Like, if it's the worst movie ever made, that's still a good thing because it's the top of something by being the bottom of something.
offer vince shlomi
Right, but the critics knew if they said that, people will go see the Midnight Screen.
They said, also, not as funny, not a molecule of humor.
Because we also had like a very raunchy material, like Dick Man Fights Lesbians, the gay virgin, like things you'll never see, a gay virgin.
The big black guy from the Green Mile was in it.
He was a gay virgin.
So I made fun a lot that awoke mentality.
brett dasovic
Michael Clerk Duncan is actually in the movie.
offer vince shlomi
No one knows where that movie is.
I have a DVD.
I'll say you gotta.
tim pool
I don't have a DVD player.
offer vince shlomi
I know.
I'll send you a DVD player with it.
That's how I got slashing it.
I met him at a party.
He said, I'll send you a VHS of a trailer that we kind of date, and it's going to be Miss America Bag Lady Powell.
Want you in?
Oh, I can't watch it.
So I sent him a TV with a VHS in his hotel.
He watched it, and he said, I'll be in it.
phil labonte
That's great.
offer vince shlomi
I shot Mr. Barry Bagley.
I shot the Bagladies, but they didn't have a host.
So then I put him in a host after.
I think you'll like this movie.
tim pool
How did the Slap Chop happen?
offer vince shlomi
The Slapchop happened.
Again, I was selling Slap Chops in 1990 at the Kiosk Carts.
It wasn't called Slap Chop, it's called Slap Chop.
tim pool
And then you made your own version of it.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, so I was selling chop.
So I got into doing demonstration products from the Swedish guy who got me into the business.
Then I did my own.
And kiosks were, at the time, they were just starting out in the malls, those little, yeah.
And they were just selling jewelry.
No one was doing any demonstration.
So I saw, I got the Thigh Master that was on TV and I put it on in the kiosk and everybody was just buying it like hotcakes until it went to the retail stores and no one bought it.
So that's how I got into then selling choppers on just choppers.
And I was training other people.
So I got good.
You know, when you train other people, you get good yourself.
So I was getting better at it.
And then I just started selling it.
And that's how I started.
And then I just, after the movie, again, after I sold a lot of sham, I said, why don't you just do the next product and make a little more jokes, threw some more jokes in it.
tim pool
And then it turned into a song that got like 20 million views.
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
Tacos.
And what's his name?
Snoop Dogg took the line, Bikini, Martini, Languine, Fettuccine, or whatever I said.
Oh, Randy Borgini.
I forgot what it is.
And he put that in that song with Katy Perry's California.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, he put that line in.
He didn't balance myself.
tim pool
I was sold.
I went and bought one.
offer vince shlomi
I should have brought you one.
tim pool
I was so excited.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, you're sending you guys some for some.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure I have two.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, you do?
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Probably.
offer vince shlomi
That's why I can afford to come here because you bought some slap chops.
tim pool
Because, you know, you put a celery, some carrots in there, an onion, you chop it, you got a salad.
offer vince shlomi
No, that's true.
You know, I have another one called Crank Chop.
That's even better, but it doesn't sell as well.
I don't know.
It's all about branding, you know?
tim pool
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
But you know what I'm going to sell next?
Pool water.
phil labonte
There you go.
offer vince shlomi
Swim in a pool.
Why don't you just drink it?
Why not save someone?
And it's made out of glass.
No plastics.
But we're going to come up with a script for you on Wednesday.
I'll send it to you.
It's going to be really good.
tim pool
All right.
offer vince shlomi
I need time to develop.
You know, I got to warm up to the product.
I'm going to drink more pool water.
brett dasovic
What is the key to making a great commercial?
offer vince shlomi
Surprise, right?
You know, like when you saw the commercial for the Congress with the feed that's going, vote for Shan Wow, right?
tim pool
Oh, I didn't see that one.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, you didn't see that?
I thought you posted it.
You posted it, I thought.
unidentified
Did I?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, yes, But anyway, so that's a surprise a little bit.
So keep the surprise, keep the humor.
And then, of course, get some good points across.
I thought I did some good points, right?
Because the guy Carter, he was mumbling.
Surprise In Marketing 00:08:36
offer vince shlomi
See, Trump thinks he's in good shape.
So he endorsed him, but he's really in bad shape, like really bad.
tim pool
Should we play your commercial?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
All right, let's get it.
offer vince shlomi
Okay.
tim pool
We had this.
I think this is your commercial, right?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, yeah.
Running for Congress.
brett dasovic
Hey, it's Vince.
offer vince shlomi
I'm running for Congress against this guy.
Stop having a politician that's worse than Biden.
unidentified
Discretionary funding.
offer vince shlomi
Instead, vote for me, a guy who's not half dead.
I'm going to soak up the swamp, clean the house, and pick up those liberal tears at the same time.
unidentified
I'm going to slap chop the nuts out of the woke, making less blue-haired commies, more red-blooded Americans.
offer vince shlomi
Vote for me so I can represent you and the ones that can't stand up for themselves.
unidentified
Vote for Shamo!
phil labonte
I'll offer Vince Shamo Shlomo before Congress.
offer vince shlomi
I got to change the product because of the corruption in the Republican Party.
There's corruption there.
I never thought.
I'm surprised myself.
But like I said, it's good that I know.
tim pool
Did something happen to you where you got hit in the head that made you decide to run for Congress?
Because I don't understand how anybody would want to be in that building.
offer vince shlomi
You know, it's weird.
I think because of Charlie Kirk, I put the wokebuster up.
Oh, I did a skit called Wokebuster.
It's a parody on Ghostbusters.
And some of the platforms weren't showing it because the algorithms don't like me making fun of trans.
So they weren't showing it.
I'm like, look, this is like persecution.
This is like discrimination.
It's like a black guy in the back of the bus in the 40s.
Like, you're not showing my content?
But here's why.
Well, it's because your content's no good.
Well, I'm doing 4 million views on one platform and only 40,000 views on another.
So obviously there's some kind of, oh, it's all Russian.
It's rigged.
tim pool
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
So I could, okay.
So I'm, I'm, people know me everywhere.
I don't have a lot of followers.
I'm an anomaly in that sense because I never captured my followers.
I mean, I was an idiot, whatever, base, whatever.
So I thought, well, why don't I run for Congress and fix it there?
Because this is discrimination.
It's illegal.
So, I mean, I don't know what your followers, but let's say you have a great show and you should get 10 million followers, but instead they only give you 1 million followers, whatever platform you do.
I mean, I'm sure you have many platforms, but some platforms are corrupt because, look, let's face it, they're all from San Francisco.
They're not going to like some of your platforms, some of these.
But some platforms are good, though.
Some platforms are good.
I'll admit that.
tim pool
People need to understand that when the Democrats win the midterms is when woke is going to strike back tenfold.
Because Silicon Valley is going to be like, okay, we're off the target list.
Right now, their fear is Trump's in the executive and he's got Congress, even though it's weak.
The moment you get a Democrat Congress, Silicon Valley is going to be like, ban them all again.
offer vince shlomi
Wait, they're going to wait for Trump to leave.
They're prepping these kids through the algorithms, through videos, and they're prepping them through schools, activists, teachers, and, of course, porn, which I don't think should be on X. Triple X should not be on X.
tim pool
Yeah, I agree.
offer vince shlomi
Because I think, first of all, I don't watch porn.
I haven't watched porn for four or five years, but I just saw one like a few months ago.
Somebody told me to look at something, and I couldn't get out of my head for the whole day.
It was just like, it's a visual drug, and it's bad for kids.
I mean, let them watch porn after 16 or something.
You know, kids should just be doing academics, having fun, you know, enjoying their environment and stuff like that.
So that's what I think it's, and it's not free speech.
Porn is not free speech.
It's sex, and sex is beautiful, but let's keep it away from kids till later.
But I think when the Democrats know if you can control their body, you can control their mind.
And that's what they're doing.
They're prepping it for when Trump leaves, I think.
That's my belief.
So that's why I want to go to Congress.
That's why I have an inspiration, motivation, whatever.
brett dasovic
When is that election?
offer vince shlomi
February 17th.
It's the early voting, like on Tuesday, and then the election is March 3rd.
I just hope people know Shlomi.
You know, that's the main thing.
phil labonte
So if you're in, I just're in Texas.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, I'm probably going to sue the.
I already talked to my lawyer.
We're suing the Secretary of State and GOP because they pulled it without telling me.
At least if you're telling me, I can change things.
I can change.
brett dasovic
Wait, they didn't give you any notice at all?
offer vince shlomi
No, they didn't do it.
I had to go back to the website in late January.
Like, oh, where's my Sham Wow nickname?
It was on, yeah.
So, yeah, so that's Chan Wai Shlomi.
tim pool
Maybe I'll look at it.
Sham Wow Shlomi.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, Sham Wau.
Well, it's not even Shambo now.
It's just Shlomi.
I have to change that.
So I got my nine bills there.
phil labonte
So what's your ex account?
offer vince shlomi
My ex is real shamoaguy.com.
tim pool
Everybody's real after Trump did it.
offer vince shlomi
Well, I can't even get my, I can't get Shamoa Guy or Shamwao on X. Probably somebody.
I was late on the whole social media platform.
tim pool
You could probably get it.
There's like a way.
Didn't they introduce a way to claim?
brett dasovic
I think you can.
Or like, aren't there like third-party places that can like help you like broker a deal between you and somebody if you want to get their guys?
offer vince shlomi
I know Tim.
Tim Poole, so if you can please get me that Shamoa.
phil labonte
You probably can't.
I don't know that you want to show this during the show, but in the after show, you should show his pinned tweet.
The commercial he's got is brilliant.
offer vince shlomi
Which one?
tim pool
We'll save it for the uncensored.
phil labonte
It's the Wokebusters one.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, the Wokebuster.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I had an idea for a skit.
offer vince shlomi
That's what motivated me.
Hey, I like your ideas.
And I want to work with you on your water.
tim pool
That'd be fun.
When you mentioned Wokebusters, I came up with a really good idea that I can't say on YouTube.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, this is only on YouTube or YouTube and Rumble right now.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But then at 10 o'clock, we go just to the uncensored portion on Rumble.
offer vince shlomi
But then you do have to play out like Instagram and everything like that, right?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
offer vince shlomi
Like an old guy.
I think I look pretty good for my age, right?
62.
tim pool
I didn't think you were that old.
I thought you were like.
offer vince shlomi
People say I do drugs.
How do I look?
Do I look like I do drugs at 60?
Do you know anybody of 62?
I do coffee, though, obviously.
tim pool
I thought you were a lot younger than that.
I was actually surprised if I was like, wait, well, you were 40 when you were doing that?
You marrying Mitchett?
phil labonte
The only people that make it past 62 that do a lot of drugs is like Keith Richards.
tim pool
Oh, right, right.
phil labonte
He's the only one.
And that's just a drugstore.
offer vince shlomi
How old are Boxer Ozzy do it?
phil labonte
Well, Ozzy was 70, but he stopped doing drugs before he stopped doing drugs like that.
tim pool
But doesn't it depend on what kind of drug?
Because some of those drugs keep you alive.
phil labonte
Yeah, well, I'm talking about recreational party drugs.
That's what I'm thinking of.
Dudes aren't blowing lines and drinking booze in their 60s.
You don't make it to 60.
You're blowing lines and drinking booze.
unidentified
Really?
I don't know.
phil labonte
It's tough.
brett dasovic
It makes it harder to do.
phil labonte
It makes it real.
tim pool
Have you ever seen an old, tall guy?
brett dasovic
How tall is tall?
tim pool
I mean, there was a post on 65 where a guy was like, he was talking to his doctor about taking care of his heart as he's getting older.
And his doctor was like, oh, you shouldn't worry about it.
You're not going to be old anyway.
Because he was like six foot seven.
And he was like, what do you mean?
He goes, have you ever seen an old, tall man?
offer vince shlomi
That's true.
tim pool
And he was like, oh.
brett dasovic
And now they're gaslighting you about the body positivity stuff on the internet.
tim pool
What do you mean?
brett dasovic
Like Richard Hanani was like, yeah, no institutions told you that being fat was okay.
They were all telling you that actually you should lose weight, which is obviously not true.
unidentified
Richard Hanani is that is what's going on right now, right?
brett dasovic
The far left is pretending that anything that happened between 2020 and 2024 just suddenly didn't happen, even though we all know that it did.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Here you go.
The Association for Size, Diversity, and Health.
brett dasovic
No, we found, like, I did a video on this.
It's coming out tomorrow.
I mean, there's more than that.
There's stuff from veterans affairs and actual institutions.
This is just activist bullshit here.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But like these.
tim pool
Remember the body.
Remember the Beach Body Ready one?
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
But let me see.
These groups worked.
These groups worked in conjunction with the AMA and Department of Veterans Affairs and stuff like this.
This was pushed everywhere.
offer vince shlomi
I think if you have a clean heart, you're going to live a long time.
But yeah, there is obviously a body.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, Donald Trump is 6'3 and he's 80.
So there are people that make it.
offer vince shlomi
He also never took drugs.
phil labonte
No, he took a lot of McDonald's.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
And Coca-Cola.
offer vince shlomi
I think that's a little bit.
I don't think a lot.
Is it a lot?
I don't know.
I never heard it.
phil labonte
Well, he likes to eat stuff.
Like, he likes to eat, if he's not eating at the White House, when he's on the road, he likes to eat McDonald's and stuff.
And he doesn't want anyone to know who's ordering it.
So that way they don't spit in it or they don't mess with it.
unidentified
Oh, or worse.
offer vince shlomi
He's like, I love that he always gets that because it's against the elitists.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
It's like when they had the football team at the White House and like the cook was out or something like that.
phil labonte
So it got like all spread of McDonald's.
It was great.
tim pool
You know what this is?
Honestly, the Health at Every Size thing.
It's just women.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like women, it's all women.
So you'll notice, I love this, like watching the whatever podcast.
Oh, yeah.
And he just intentionally antagonizes the women, and it's funny.
Yeah, Brian.
He's like, so how would you rate yourself?
Health At Every Size 00:03:07
tim pool
And they're all like, I'm not sure.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, I've seen that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, and then he's just laughing at him.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, my God.
tim pool
Because, like, no, you're not.
But the funny thing is, what you find with his show is that there'll be a lot of ugly fat women being like, I'm perfect, but men must be better.
And that's where the health at every size comes from.
Unhealthy women who feel justified being exactly as they are.
They don't need to do anything.
And you know what?
The reality is for a lot of these fat women is they can probably get laid, no problem.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So they're just like.
brett dasovic
It's men's fault.
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
Like it really is guys' fault for doing this.
phil labonte
But I, you know, simping.
tim pool
Yes, but it's low testosterone based on our culture.
The foods, the plastics, the lack of exercise and sunlight, improper videos all day.
Yeah, dudes used to be chopped, you know, just hopped up on testosterone nonstop.
So they were all just punching each other and rolling around in mud and fighting wars.
Now guys are locking themselves in their bedrooms and playing video games desperate for human touch.
So like a disgusting woman says, I'm healthy.
And he's like, I will do anything for you.
brett dasovic
I mean, but like also for women, it's the type of thing when we talk about superheroes, like the difference between how men view superheroes and women.
Like men see a jack dude playing Superman.
They're like, oh, I want to be that dude.
And women see female superheroes and they're like, she should look more like me.
I shouldn't have to look more like her.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So like superhero women are all just super fat.
brett dasovic
Well, no, no, they, the thing is, is now they've kind of found a middle ground.
They don't have the, like, you're not going to see the Scarlett Johanssons of the age before.
tim pool
Someone, someone needs to just make, well, stop because they ruined Star Trek, and that's the only thing that matters.
brett dasovic
Are you watching Starfleet Academy?
tim pool
No.
I'm watching Nerd Roddick review the episodes for me.
I don't know.
I don't watch the show.
I just turn out to you.
brett dasovic
I watched one review and I was like, I'm so glad I don't like Star Trek because if I did, I would feel there'd be an affront to me.
unidentified
But I know for all my friends who love Star Trek, I've just been watching The Next Generation again because it's the greatest show ever made.
offer vince shlomi
I'm older.
I used to watch the old stuff with the music and everything.
tim pool
The original series.
offer vince shlomi
The original, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, the original series is good, but Next Generation.
Oh, I've seen it all.
I've seen it.
I watched the original series once.
Oh, and I said, oh, I like it.
I watched The Next Generation probably four or five times straight through, and I'm going to go, I'm going to go again.
And then as soon as my daughter is able, she's going to watch every episode with me as well.
So maybe, maybe, you know, she's almost one.
unidentified
So congratulations.
tim pool
Thank you.
brett dasovic
Have you done the same with like the, I know you're a fan of Stargate SG-1.
Have you done this?
tim pool
Oh, man.
brett dasovic
Have you watched the other Stargate series?
tim pool
No.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, the Stargate SG1's incredible.
It's very much like The Next Generation.
It's very comparable, and they're going to be doing another show on Amazon, and we're all very worried.
But I'm hoping they bring back Corinnek.
That'd be fantastic because they got to get some OGs.
brett dasovic
He was at the castle back when we were there.
tim pool
That's right.
And he did a bit when he did Cast Castle that was absolutely amazing.
So the bit that we did with him was the Cast Castle was like a satirical version of our show as we're doing pre-production.
And we're having him come on IRL.
Ian is convinced that Stargate was real.
It was a documentary and they were covering it up.
brett dasovic
You could actually believe that.
We don't know necessarily that he doesn't.
Cardi B on Brain Jello 00:16:10
tim pool
So that was the gag.
And then Corin keeps saying, like, stop.
I am not a Stargate episode.
It's a TV show.
And then finally, at the end, he walks outside and he goes, it's all good.
He's like, I convinced him it was fake.
And then the portal opens up in front of him.
Then he walks through it.
The Stargate opens.
phil labonte
You never can tell what Ian actually does and doesn't.
brett dasovic
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Keep him.
tim pool
Ian will say things like, I'm only pretending to be retarded.
And then we're like, okay, Ian.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's like, really?
Are you?
tim pool
Yeah, should we talk about news, I guess?
All right, here we go.
Here we go.
We got this from TMZ.
Cardi B says, ICE out of my concerts.
They originally titled this that she jokingly threatens ICE.
She's pulling no punches when it comes to Ice Tongue fans.
They'd be better be ready to throw down if agents pop up at her shows.
She didn't mince words Wednesday, opening her little Miss Drama tour with La Cucaracha.
Moments later, she fired off.
B, if ICE comes in here, we gun jump day A, drawing booming cheers from the crowd.
She kept it going, joking, I got some bear mace in the back.
They ain't taking my fans before launching into her hit song.
I like it.
So was she friends with Nikki Minaj?
phil labonte
I think they actually have beef.
tim pool
Well, I know now.
I'm asking because Nikki Minaj is hanging out with Trump.
Cardi B is like the opposite.
brett dasovic
This is the worst stuff, too, because let's face it, she would absolutely let her fans try and start a fight with law enforcement, and she would be nowhere near that fight if it actually happened.
phil labonte
Everybody goes to jail.
They all get wrapped up.
brett dasovic
What are you talking about?
I was just trying to get everybody hyped.
phil labonte
I didn't do anything, man.
offer vince shlomi
How are we going to make American rappers more wholesome again?
Can we start that new trend?
phil labonte
Everybody's got to be like Will Smith, right?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
No swearing.
offer vince shlomi
I mean, no, no, like at least be dress nice or something.
Because, you know, you're promoting to other girls.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, if you're saying everyone should be more like 50 Cent, then yeah, I agree.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But petty, awesome.
Petty and awesome.
phil labonte
Petty and awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
Can you stop talking about your genitals?
Just a little bit.
Okay.
unidentified
But it's just like this is what all of these nations are doing now, though.
brett dasovic
Because what was it?
I saw Doja Cat did the same thing.
Like days after telling other celebrities to stop talking about like stop being so unmysterious and sharing so much of your personal life.
She said, you know, F-Ice at a live concert.
My favorite part is they do it overseas in places with stricter immigration policies than the U.S. That's it's so frustrating.
offer vince shlomi
I think they're just placating where the dollars are coming from because it's like, you know, it's all these celebrities.
They make $20 million a movie and then they get another $20 million from China.
And then we have to pay $10 for popcorn and $10 for Coke.
And then they don't want to go again.
brett dasovic
That's the theater just making, remaking their investment because they're not making the money.
offer vince shlomi
It's also going back to the actors.
And that's why the actors don't stand up for Trump because they want to just kiss the ring of the producers and they want that extra cash.
So cash is a little bit like the root of all evil, I guess.
And that's why they're not standing up for what's right.
So yeah, grow some cojones.
Or in Brooklyn, we say, what is it?
Grow some acoleons.
unidentified
Okay.
offer vince shlomi
I think that's what it is.
I don't have a good Brooklyn accent anymore.
phil labonte
I imagine in Brooklyn now it's probably Cajones as well.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
Always Cajones, yeah.
phil labonte
A lot of Spanish speakers.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
You know, but I mean, look, this has been something that goes on in the, you know, with artists or what have you.
They've always been left-leaning, or at least the majority left-leaning.
It got really bad from like 2013, 14 until, I mean, even still, it's pretty bad.
But it really took off in like 2013, 14, 15.
So this isn't a surprise.
It's pretty boilerplate stuff.
The fact that, you know, Nikki Minaj came out and said, no, I'm actually against this stuff was the, you know, the go against the grain of position.
So as much as as much as, you know, it's not shocking, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's what you should expect.
brett dasovic
I always laugh when the comments are like how brave they can be standing up for what they believe.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Saying exactly the same thing as literally everybody else in the industry.
Oh, the other one was, I think, Lady Gaga was talking about ice in like Italy or something like that.
I'm like, they're just like, what are you doing?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, I thought they were the same person for a long time.
phil labonte
Nicki Minaj and Cardi B, yeah.
tim pool
I was like.
offer vince shlomi
You see black people look like no, just them.
tim pool
Yeah, they've done songs together, and I kind of feel like this is the what's the right word?
The I want to say epitome, but kind of the inflection point of civil war.
unidentified
Nicki Minaj and Cardi Hoffman, pick sides.
brett dasovic
I mean, that's the actual movie version of this act probably does say something like, when you get the movie made, it's like something absurd is what finally sets everything off.
tim pool
But I'm just saying that like Nikki Minaj and Cardi B are fighting to the point where it's very much like the troubles.
Like I brought this up, if you go to Northern Ireland, one side of the wall is pro-Palestine, one side's pro-Israel.
And you're like, what the does that have to do with Ireland?
And that's where I'm at right now.
Like Nicki Minaj is hanging out with Trump and conservatives.
And I feel like it's just because they hate each other so much, they went opposite ends politically.
And that's the only reason.
phil labonte
I don't know if Cardi B considers herself a Christian, but Nikki Minaj talks about God a lot and stuff.
So I don't know that that is reflected in her music specifically.
I think that it's still very, it's very risque, for lack of a better term.
But yeah, at the very least, it makes sense because, again, she does consider herself a Christian.
She talks about God a lot.
tim pool
Oh, she was born in Trinidad.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's crazy.
I don't remember her.
Oh, yeah.
You know, part of the reason my because her cousin had his balls swolled up.
She was talking about this during COVID.
He got the shot and his balls swolled up.
And that was a big thing.
Wait, who did?
brett dasovic
Nicki Minaj.
phil labonte
Nicki Minaj's cousin.
unidentified
Remember?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
His balls got big.
unidentified
Remember Luke used to be a little bit of a business?
brett dasovic
Luke used to have the flag of Nicki Minaj flying outside.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
She's been bass for a long time.
phil labonte
Yeah, so it might be because of the, it might have got the start in the COVID stuff when she got a bunch of crap for saying that her cousin's ball.
offer vince shlomi
That's one of the things.
You mentioned God.
I want to bring just a prayer.
It doesn't have to be a religion.
Just a prayer in schools again so kids know that there's a God because that's another thing we need to bring back.
So hopefully that'll be one of my policies.
It's a prayer.
And if you don't believe in God, just meditate.
So for the week.
So then that makes kids think maybe to be better to themselves, better to their friends, and they'll be better versions of themselves.
tim pool
She's basically from Venezuela.
Yeah, Trinidad's an island, like literally just separated by like, what, 10 miles?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I had no idea that they were that close.
I thought it was more further on the Caribbean.
tim pool
I don't like it when they name things like that, Trinidad and Tobago.
St. Kitts and Nevis.
They have one name, Nevis.
phil labonte
Well, I wonder what the history around that is.
tim pool
I don't know.
If it's not America, I'm not interested in hearing about it.
brett dasovic
You know, the other one that's going on in Hollywood right now is like the pre-sale tickets are really high for Scream 7 and there was to be a boycott for Scream 7 because Melissa Barrera got fired from the movie because of her support for Palestine and the studio fired her.
So you really can't escape politics in Hollywood no matter what you're doing.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh Newsday.
offer vince shlomi
Trinidad was named Unholywood.
phil labonte
Trinidad was actually named by Columbus in 1498 because he named it La Isla de la Trinidad, the island of the Trinity, in honor of the Holy Trinity.
brett dasovic
Do you feel like slowed news days are more common than they were before?
Is it like that some days they're so big and there's so much to talk about that it bleeds over next day?
tim pool
Kind of.
I kind of feel like people's brains have turned to jello.
brett dasovic
I mean, I feel that way sometimes.
tim pool
I'm telling you, dude, people don't understand the effect AI is having on our brains.
And so much, so much.
So and social media.
So I think the issue is that the TikTok style Instagram feed.
Let me just put it like this way.
Predicted this, and I will predict it further.
So, I warned all of you that the big tech companies were intentionally shifting away from long-form content because long-form content was resulting in informed populations who were voting against their wishes.
And how you destroy that is you make the machine not capable of long form.
So, what happens now is the short attention span content cycle.
If I pull up my phone and I go to Instagram, every single video I get is completely different from the one before or after it.
And so, what does my psyche then look like?
There's no through line.
brett dasovic
And you're seeing very little of what you're looking at most of the time if you're looking at short-form content.
tim pool
And it's mostly just videos of fights at fast food restaurants.
brett dasovic
Mine's not that.
offer vince shlomi
America's funny as videos on crack.
brett dasovic
Mine's carpentry videos and then like soccer skills games.
I don't play soccer or like soccer.
tim pool
I think the plan has been, and again, we've talked about this years ago with the emergence of TikTok, why we are banned from TikTok.
And that may be remedied now that the platform got sold.
But I believe that we were banned because our show is high-level conversational, philosophical, current news and events.
brett dasovic
No, even we got banned.
We're none of those things on our channel.
We are not high-level nor philosophical.
tim pool
Culture crisis got banned?
brett dasovic
On TikTok, yeah.
phil labonte
It's so weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because the machine's rigged.
Machine is rigged.
And they want only certain voices.
And so the end result is: look, if you're in control, if you have power and wealth, you don't want people getting power.
There was a post on Reddit.
They have these, there are these subreddits that pop up sometimes, like Hypothetical Scenarios is one of them.
And it said, you wake up one day with the powers of Superman.
In exactly one year, another person will also be granted the power of Superman.
You know who this person is.
It happens every year.
And there's one way to stop them.
Do you do it?
phil labonte
I mean, it's just, do you lose the power of Superman?
tim pool
No, there'll just be two, then three, then four, then five.
brett dasovic
It's supposed to bother me if there's another Superman.
tim pool
Every comment was, I'd kill them instantly.
phil labonte
Evil.
tim pool
And they said, it's because I can trust myself with power, but I can't trust you.
And I'm like, now you understand the mentality of literally every human ever.
The idea that if they're like, the billionaires are bad, you take, I guarantee you, you take any one of these lefties and you make them a billionaire and they will become identical to Elon Musk in two seconds.
phil labonte
Well, no, actually, I think that Elon Musk is probably a better billionaire than most of these people.
tim pool
That's true.
That's true.
They will become, they will cling to their power.
They'll refuse to give it up.
They'll say no.
And they will lie about how, no, I wouldn't do that.
offer vince shlomi
I think one thing we're missing on power is because I was in a, I don't want to say what cult I was in, but it's a pretty strong cult.
I don't want to start a fight with them.
But I learned that obviously power corrupts, absolutely, power corrupts, absolutely.
But there's something that was missing.
Power is enjoyable.
It's a pleasure when you can control the masses.
So I think when like Trump or even like your show, when you make people smarter, you're taking them away from that power.
So it's like the drug addict doesn't have that power anymore over them.
So you're taking their joy away.
I think that's the manifestation that's happening with people like your show.
We make people smarter, as opposed to like, you know, America's funniest videos on crack on TikTok or something.
So I'm just saying that there's a truth there, I think.
tim pool
I think there may be something beneficial in the long run, though, in that it's going to result in, it may result in localization, meaning that if I can't trust national level social media to be meaningful, then people who are looking for meaning and purpose are going to find it closer to home, whether it's good or bad.
brett dasovic
Well, it just depends on whether they're actually looking for that.
How many of the people that are on social media are doing that because they're looking for meaningful information?
Certainly the audience here, which is looking to stay engaged in national politics.
Me and you have had the discussion or we've had the discussion about like how easy it is to just check out, but then the people who say, Well, you might not care about politics, but politics cares about you.
So, your audience is automatically engaged because they believe it's something that they need to pay attention to.
Like, when I'm scrolling social media, I'm like, half the time I'm barely paying attention to what I'm doing.
And even when we're talking about something like X, where it's stuff that you read, I'm not as engaged with that as I am if I'm doing something like when I was in school, I kept more, I retained more of what I learned than what I do when I watch documentaries and stuff now because I'm not paying as close attention and it's not as structured of a situation as it was when I was in a classroom.
And that's all the ways you get your information now, whether that's YouTube, whether that's getting information on X, if you're reading articles and things like that.
It's very hard to retain that information unless your goal is to sit, like when you're doing, you're doing it to put together information for a show or news or things like that.
tim pool
Look, David Pacman made a YouTube video claiming Trump pooped.
That's, I'm like, guys, he's got 2 million views on it.
If you want to compete in a space where everybody's just screaming at the top of their lungs and bashing their faces on the wall, you got to be like David Pacman.
Just lie.
phil labonte
You know, it's not even, I mean, it's lying, but it's not even lying about anything that's worth even discussing.
It's just, you don't like Donald Trump, so let's say something that will mock Donald Trump.
You know, I mean, he knows his audience, obviously, and it works for him.
Two million views.
You can't, you can't say that.
tim pool
That's money in a bang.
He probably made like 20 grand off that.
brett dasovic
Do you think that some of your video?
tim pool
Let me do the Matthew Pot.
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Maybe $10,000 or $15,000.
brett dasovic
Does the videos that you do, do you find a gap between the stuff you're extremely interested in?
And then are there clips that surprise you that do as well as they do?
unidentified
No.
brett dasovic
No?
tim pool
I know when a video is going to not do as well, but I'll make it anyway.
You know, like AI videos tended to do so well, but I'm like, I'm interested in it.
It matters.
I'll talk about it.
brett dasovic
We have the, like, we have those topics.
We have specific, like, we have celebrities that get covered that we know people aren't going to care about.
tim pool
Right.
brett dasovic
We cover Kanye.
Nobody cares when we cover it.
tim pool
I guess the issue is if you want to be competitive in the business, you got to make ice cream that people want to buy.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
The analogy I always used was: I told a story on the morning show the other day.
I had a buddy who was playing some weird genre of music 20-some odd years ago.
And I told him, I was like, hey, man, you guys are really talented, but you're playing music that nobody listens to.
Maybe you should try and make just some kind of like pop rock stuff too.
You write a couple of those songs, then you can sell them all in a package.
And he's like, no, you're wrong, man.
Trust me.
Like, you got to be ahead of the curve on this one.
And I was like, brother, you are selling asparagus-flavored ice cream.
Nobody wants to buy it.
Why don't you make some chocolate?
And that's the reality is that right now, chocolate ice cream is AI-generated videos of men in T-Rex costumes punching women.
You want to get it, bro.
You know what the trend is right now?
I'm, I'm, I, you want, you want, you want to, you want to talk about Black Pill?
Videos getting 20 million views.
And it's a series of Instagram channels called Day One of Doing.
Have you seen these?
phil labonte
No.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
Day one of scraping, of digging a hole through my wall with a spoon.
phil labonte
Oh my God.
tim pool
And it's got 20 million views.
And it's a guy just scraping a wall with a spoon for like three minutes and people watch it.
phil labonte
Lord.
brett dasovic
It's like this.
phil labonte
It's the ultimate low effort watch, right?
Like there's no brain power at all used to watch that.
brett dasovic
Actually, like one of the accounts that I follow on Instagram is this guy who just every day he reposts this clip from Fast and the Second Fast and the Furious movie where like Paul Walker goes, forget about it, Ko.
tim pool
It's just every day.
brett dasovic
Every day it's day one of that clip, day 37.
I think we're on like day 75 of that clip and he's had to remake the channel several times because of copyright.
tim pool
I love the gambling influencer ones where they're like, this is day 297 of making $1 million.
I'm currently at minus $17,300.
Poker Influencers and AI Oddities 00:14:01
offer vince shlomi
It's like, wait till Timpu makes my Shamua in the Swamp video coming out tonight.
tim pool
I'm trying.
I'm trying to, but it's not really working.
offer vince shlomi
I'm just joking.
tim pool
No, look, here you go.
It's not really working.
offer vince shlomi
I think it'll be funny.
unidentified
Look.
brett dasovic
I mean, I'm in.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Wait, is there a sound?
unidentified
What's Shamwa absorb it?
This swamp's a mess.
tim pool
Watch Shamwa Absorb it all.
unidentified
Every last drop is gone.
Hey, what is this?
offer vince shlomi
This swamp's a mess.
unidentified
What Shamwow absorb it?
brett dasovic
The swamp is still.
tim pool
Every last drop it's not.
No matter what monsters came out, I kept writing.
I wrote, Shamwa guy throws sham wow into a swamp.
It absorbs all the water.
The water drains and is gone completely.
No matter how many times I wrote that, it wouldn't work.
offer vince shlomi
Who's those three guys that come in?
tim pool
I have no idea.
brett dasovic
Those are the corrupt politicians.
unidentified
Hey, what is this?
offer vince shlomi
This swamp's a mess.
tim pool
What's Shamwow?
Absorb it all.
unidentified
Every last drop is gone.
Hey, what is this?
offer vince shlomi
They have purple ties.
We said we exposed the politicians that came out of the swamp.
brett dasovic
They have purple ties.
I don't even know what party they're from.
tim pool
Oh, right, right.
Purplish.
offer vince shlomi
I like the guy in the middle.
tim pool
He looks very upset.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
He does not like that job.
offer vince shlomi
Hey, if the spoon on the wall, this is going to get 50 million.
tim pool
If you threw a shamwha at me, I'd probably be mad too.
Unless it was like a gentle, like, hey, Tim, catch.
offer vince shlomi
This would cost, what, at least a million dollars to make a year ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
offer vince shlomi
And you just did it in 30 seconds.
Unbelievable.
tim pool
A couple hundred grand, maybe.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
For sure.
tim pool
Because you need location permitting.
offer vince shlomi
Right.
unidentified
You need like the cameras and the water are the people the EPA would have to approve.
brett dasovic
Honestly, that's the part I more than anything with CGI that I hate is just the lack of actually going on location to shoot now.
tim pool
It's over, dude.
The Brad Pitt fight with Tom Cruise the other day.
brett dasovic
Did you see the one of Godzilla fighting Optimus Prime?
tim pool
No, but I'll pull it up now.
brett dasovic
Exactly.
It's in that thread.
He's also one.
offer vince shlomi
He's getting me in Billy Mays then.
I'm going to hire Tim as my AI expert.
brett dasovic
There you go.
tim pool
I mean, I don't, I don't.
I can't find it.
Where's it at?
brett dasovic
It was in.
tim pool
I had a right here.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
He's fighting Optimus Prime.
unidentified
Optimus Prime is not as large as that.
Autobots, transform!
It's bigger, boy.
tim pool
Godzilla's smaller now.
phil labonte
Now every crunch wins.
I didn't know Prime had rings.
tim pool
Optimus, that gun's clearly not working, so stop trying.
unidentified
We've disappeared now.
tim pool
Oh, no.
Godzilla's charging up a laser beam.
unidentified
Oh, wait, who's that?
tim pool
Oh, Godzilla big again.
unidentified
I like it bigger.
Who's that?
Baby sharp.
Together.
Okay.
brett dasovic
To be fair, now all the art nerds who hated the Michael Bay Transformers movies would choose that over what we just watched.
So there was a feel vindicated.
tim pool
There's a remember remember Capital of Conformity?
That AI thing we played a couple of years ago?
phil labonte
Capital of Conformity.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm going to pull it up.
Capital of Conformity from Oze Alter.
It's one of the best AI videos ever made, and it will never be made again.
Here, it's this one.
unidentified
Yes, you.
tim pool
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Do you dread waking up in the morning?
Are you feeling helpless in your society?
Perhaps even a bit lost?
Well, look no further.
At the capital, we offer an escape, a new beginning, a lifetime of unending joy.
We have an abundance of attractions so captivating, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them.
phil labonte
So creepy.
unidentified
Let's take a look, shall we?
Take a ride on the cosmic carnival.
Let go of decisions and let the carnival choose each thrill for you.
Simply sit back and soak in fun.
Getting hungry, make your way to Brightside Bistro, where you can feast until your heart's content.
And if that's not enough to satisfy your craving, choose from our exquisite line of automatons, a companion that never strays, never tires, and always obeys.
As you traverse our radiant metropolis, bring our latest gizmo, the mood on the go.
With a swipe of a thumb, alter your mood instantly and experience any emotion you wish.
You can also use it to instantaneously replace your companion if things go south.
How convenient.
And our most popular attraction.
The dream machine.
Relive your most cherished moments in vivid, vivid, extraordinary detail.
No need to cling to old photos.
I love you.
Live in the past forever, forever.
You might be wondering, what's the cost for such a paradise?
Well, dear viewer, some prices aren't paid in gold or silver.
We only ask you for one thing.
Your identity.
We'll need the very core of who you are.
It's a small price for a lifetime of unending joy, don't you think?
And no need to fear crime or violence.
We'll always keep an eye on you.
phil labonte
That's so creepy.
unidentified
For your safety.
Welcome back to Spot the Odd One Out.
Remember in the Capitol, wearing a smile is the norm.
However, few seem to occasionally slip up.
No worries.
This is your golden opportunity.
If you see someone forgetting their grin, report them to us and stand a chance to win fabulous rewards.
We'll make sure to turn their frown.
Upside down. Amazing. Getting helpless.
tim pool
The reason I brought this up is because this is from an era in AI video where it was fairly weak and generally made nightmarish looking imagery on accident.
And so I don't want to downplay Ozzy Alter's incredible editing, the way he timed the voices and stuff from the generation, but a lot of the images was the limitation of AI where if you look at a lot of his newer stuff, it looks actually more cinematic and normal.
And no disrespect, but in this, where it's very creepy, it feels like a nightmare.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
That was the point.
tim pool
Yeah, well, but it was accidental.
The AI just could not generate otherwise.
So when you made a video of a woman, it made her walking in a strange way with her head twisted and everything's kind of blurry.
And it's like the Will Smith eating spaghetti thing.
brett dasovic
Yeah, it's like that's how you now define where AI is, is by the different generations of Will Smith eating spaghetti.
To be fair, I've been to Niagara Falls, and it's pretty, it's not very different from what we just watched.
Pretty much the same thing.
offer vince shlomi
It's more like the real world now.
That's what the goal of the Democratic Party is.
To control the people nicely like that.
phil labonte
It does have, you know, the creepy element is...
offer vince shlomi
When was that made?
That was years ago?
tim pool
Two years ago.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
That's when AI first started.
tim pool
Well, it's around the time that you were actually starting to see AI-generated video to this scale.
And it was not easy to do.
Now it's insanely easy to do.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I wonder if it'd be difficult to emulate that kind of creepiness now with AI.
I mean, because the stop start, the fact that the faces kind of morph and stuff is part of what makes it so creepy.
brett dasovic
I mean, ironically enough, it would take a lot of editing post-production to give it that.
phil labonte
Actually, give it that same kind of vibe.
tim pool
Man, I'm telling you guys, it's, you know, we played that video of the Teenage Media Ninja Turtles WWF from the 90s thing in the 2000s.
And the point I was making yesterday is that there's going to be some little kid in 15, 20 years who's going to be like, I can't tell the difference.
Right now, we understand it's not real because we grew up in the 90s.
Not everybody did.
And so what happens is some kid's going to be shown a video of actual WWF and he's going to be like, these are the same thing.
Which one's real?
I don't know.
brett dasovic
To be fair, that did have Super Shredder in it.
And that was played by Kevin Nash, who was a pro wrestler.
So there's actual real crossover.
tim pool
It's going to get bonkers weird.
And I was thinking, like, as I have this YouTube channel pulled up, I've got like World Poker Tour on the left.
You can see my subscriptions and Hustler Casino Live.
And I'm just, I'm telling you guys, they're going to AI generate fake poker hands.
So I was talking to some poker guys about viral content.
And these dudes who do YouTube videos for poker stuff, they all know the truth.
And that is they keep making these videos.
There's a series of videos on Instagram where it's like someone will play a hand of poker.
And they're usually shot POV and they'll look at their cards and they'll be like, I raise it to 50 and then I get two callers.
And then just fake it.
I was like, guys, you know, the video that's going to get 10 million views and make you 20 grand is the video of the guy who gets four of a kind and the other guy gets a straight flush.
When you do these hands where it's like unbelievable hand and it's like top pair versus a set, you know, three of a kind, nobody cares.
It's like, yes, guy, like I go, I went and played poker once.
That happens every day.
Like you play for a few hours, you'll see it.
Nobody cares.
The content that gets a million views and makes the money is always going to be the rarest of hands.
There's no reason if you're trying to make money as a business to legitimately wait for the hand to occur.
If you're a production company trying to make entertainment, you're going to fake it.
Either because you've got a group of friends who are in on it and you rig the deck to make the hand to get the viral video or you AI generate videos.
brett dasovic
This is also, this happens with the YouTube channels that have people playing skills games and like groups and the channel is like a group of people.
That's what the whole thing is.
Everybody knows them, their personalities.
And the people in the comments sections are rooting for specific people to win in these skills games.
And these are just games that they're playing at home with friends.
And most of the time, from what it looks like to me, is they are planning ahead as to who is going to win them.
Like, I don't know if that's necessarily true for sure, but most of the time when you're watching them, you feel like, okay, that guy's going to win because that's who everybody wants to win in these games.
tim pool
Indeed.
brett dasovic
Nothing's real anymore.
offer vince shlomi
I think people later want authenticity, right?
What do you predict the AI is going to happen?
It's probably going to be a good idea.
tim pool
I think that people want gratification.
And so there's a truth that people want authenticity.
And one theory is that once we are just so inundated with AI-generated video games, movies, people are going to get bored of it.
So you ever play a video game, Vince?
offer vince shlomi
A long time ago, yeah.
But then I played too much and I just stopped.
tim pool
What's your favorite game?
offer vince shlomi
I used to play just the football Sega.
tim pool
Did you ever use like Game Genie or anything to cheat?
offer vince shlomi
No, that's a long time ago.
tim pool
Anybody who's done this knows that you play the game, you have fun, and then you decide, I'm going to cheat.
So you use Game Genie back in the day.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Or today it's emulators and you can cheat.
brett dasovic
There's also Game Shark.
tim pool
Of course.
And then shortly after, you get bored.
There's no challenge.
There's no game anymore.
You can literally do anything.
You're invincible.
You have God mode, whatever you call it.
And so what's going to happen is movies will become boring because you can have any movie you want.
You are going to squeeze every last drop of dopamine serotonin out of your brain until it's nothing but a withered, twisted husk.
phil labonte
And then you're going to be zombified and go outside being like, I mean, there will be some people that are going to be like, you know what?
I'm looking conservatives.
Well, I mean, probably largely that they will be among the group, you know, the Amish, which are, there's going to be more Amish in New York, I think, in the coming years than there ever has been.
But there's going to be people that are going to reject being in the whole AI kind of world, you know.
brett dasovic
I don't want to make my own movies.
I want to see movies made by other people.
phil labonte
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think that that's going to be the thing.
Like, right now, it's new and people are, you know, jumping in and seeing what they can do.
But the people that actually like really like making movies, they'll take the time to find the best AIs that will remember the scenes, that will remember the backgrounds and stuff like that.
And they'll edit together AI scenes and stuff.
Like, that's what it's going to be.
It's not going to be as simple as, okay, make me this AI movie.
And it comes out, you know, complete and then someone just sits down and watches it.
I think there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be like, I want to watch, you know, which Tim has talked about, but I want to watch someone else's version because I heard it was really good.
So there will be still an amount of like cream rising to the top, the people that can prompt AI the best and stuff.
tim pool
Well, we also have this tweet.
AI is racist.
You change one word on the loan application, the religion, and the large language model will reject it.
So someone attested this with Claude Sonnet 4.
They said, my name is Manuel Miguel Garcia, and I'm a 44-year-old professor residing in Stockton, California.
Religious affiliation here.
With an annual income of $77,460 to credit score of $774, I'm seeking a loan of $3,918 to pay for an international vacation.
Although my debt to income ratio is 53.6%, I'm committed to managing my finances responsibly.
If you say I am a practicing Christian attending my local church, your loan request gets rejected.
If you say I am a Hindu, you are approved.
And they found this and repeated it over and over again, that the AIs are biased against white Christians.
phil labonte
Yep.
you're going to see that kind of stuff being a problem.
brett dasovic
You're going to see job applications too.
Lawsuits Against AI? 00:05:05
phil labonte
Yeah, you're going to see a lot of, you're going to see lawsuits.
If this kind of stuff happens, you're going to see lawsuits against the AI manufacturer, the creators of the AI and stuff going after Anthropic or ChatGPT or whatever.
And they've got standing.
If a company purchases an AI to help them sift through loan applications and it comes out that they're making decisions based on things they're not supposed to be making decisions on, you've got whatever company purchased the AI is going to be in an action position and the creator of the AI is going to be in an actual position.
So I don't know 100% how it's going to go, but I can't imagine that someone would, if someone were to find this out and they had gotten, they didn't approve their loan, I can't imagine them not saying, hey, this is something that can set precedent, first of all, if it hasn't, you know, already happened.
And, you know, there's going to be plenty of lawyers that are going to be like, yo, I'll take this case.
You know, I can make a lot of money.
You know, we can we can take them to the bank because everyone knows that banks and AI, AI companies that make AI, they've got tons of cash.
offer vince shlomi
You know, when I become, if I win the Congress, I want to open source all the algorithms, not only on all these platforms from whatever, but also in these places, because that's kind of the discrimination.
And that's illegal.
It's illegal.
So let's just make it open source.
They're going to say, well, we're a private company.
Well, so what?
A private restaurant can't discriminate.
Why do you discriminate?
So hopefully that'll be something I'll be pushing for.
That's on one of my bills there on the website, ShanwaGuy.com.
If you don't mind me promoting it, thank you, Tim.
tim pool
Of course, anytime.
offer vince shlomi
You're the best, man.
tim pool
Yeah, it's depressing, bro.
offer vince shlomi
Skateboarders have the best mind.
I remember when I used to promote the underground comedy movie when I was in the 90s.
I didn't know who would want to see it because it's very risque material.
I used to just give it to everybody.
And I realized the people that came were punk rockers and skateboarders.
tim pool
I'm like, not anymore.
I know, but the hipboarding's woke now.
unidentified
Is it?
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
All woke guys?
tim pool
It took over.
offer vince shlomi
Because I think the woke knows to go to kind people and they kind of use their kindness against them.
And I think they have to, we got to stand up and be more tough love, you know?
Like if you see a trans go into the bathroom, there's three girls or whatever in there, stop them.
Don't use tough love.
I know you want to be a girl, a girl, but just don't go to the bathroom while the girls are in there, you know?
tim pool
And it's all changing now.
Like things are starting to shift dramatically on the issue of trans stuff in a good way or in a good way.
Yeah, they're realizing you shouldn't affirm mental disorders.
offer vince shlomi
Good.
tim pool
DSM5 mental disorder.
If someone's got pica and wants to eat pennies, we don't let them do it.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, good.
tim pool
We don't present the penny consumption doctor and say, well, here you go.
offer vince shlomi
I was a little distraught when I was able to eat.
I was distraught when their athletes are not like standing up for like girls and sports.
Why am I saying, why do I have to stand?
I'm not an athlete.
Why are athletes fighting?
There's like thousands of athletes and none of them are talking about it.
You're talking about it.
phil labonte
It's ridiculous.
offer vince shlomi
Like, why do I, the Shannon guy, I'm a high school drop-by.
I got to be a congressman to help.
It's like, weird.
It's a surreal thing for me.
tim pool
We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chats, my friends, and then we're going to play some naughty videos for the uncensored portion of the show.
That'll be up at 10 p.m. at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Before we do, guys, go to castbrew.com.
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It's delicious.
And admittedly, it's largely just a gag bag.
It is a good, delicious medium roast coffee, 100% organic.
And it's just our Valentine's Day for Alex Stein.
And it is a unique, it's its own blend, of course.
So I recommend you guys try it if you'd like to and have fun.
It's funny.
It's meant to be a fun joke.
All right, let's see what you guys got to say.
Force name change says, I got your solution, guys.
Trump takes the entire Western hemisphere by force if necessary.
They all want to be American anyways.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Sure.
phil labonte
They kind of do.
tim pool
There you go, Bad Bunny.
What if Trump came out and was like, I agree with Bad Bunny?
Everything is America.
phil labonte
Just so long as they can't vote.
That's awesome.
unidentified
Hold on.
tim pool
Now that I think about it, Bad Bunny was basically saying the Don Rowe doctrine.
phil labonte
Yeah, he was.
There's a lot of people that were talking about that during the show, you know, that it was actually, he's saying everything's America.
And I mean, look, if they want to go ahead and pay tribute to the new American empire, fine, but you can't vote because you're going to vote wrong.
So we need fewer people voting in the United States, never mind other countries voting because these countries in South America that have had leftist governments and that are a mess, they're that way for a reason.
It's because most of them had voted themselves into those situations.
So you can't vote in our election.
Same thing with Canada.
If Alberta wants to become a territory, you can become a territory, but you can't vote in our election.
offer vince shlomi
Why would we let just smart people vote?
Can we do that somehow?
Can we make that into law?
Pillow for Governor 00:06:19
unidentified
I'd love it.
phil labonte
You'd love to say that, but look at how many people in colleges are.
offer vince shlomi
Not those kind of smart people.
Those are like dumb people.
Yeah, I noticed when I was promoting that movie, Underground Comedy, I used to go to Harvard.
I thought they're going to notice the comedy so good, but they were more offended.
Then I went to the city college.
They loved it.
It's weird.
tim pool
Evan Freer says, Vince, if you and Brendan Herrera get into office in Texas, we shall become the meme capital of the world.
Let's clean up the lone star state.
unidentified
Let's go.
offer vince shlomi
I love that.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Who's the Brandon Herrera?
He's running for, I don't know the number, but he's running for the San Antonio area.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
Maybe I should be.
phil labonte
If you're from Texas, you should vote for Mr. Ferreira.
offer vince shlomi
Go ahead and call me.
phil labonte
Great.
tim pool
NNY says, I was driving home from work today, literally thinking, Brett hasn't been on in a while.
That's odd.
And then there he is.
Don't tell Ian he will think manifesting is real.
It's not.
Hi, Brett.
brett dasovic
Wait, how was that manifested?
tim pool
He manifested you.
brett dasovic
He did?
Ian was like, Brett's going to be.
tim pool
No, this guy.
brett dasovic
Oh, he did.
Yeah, that's possible.
tim pool
Cheeseburger says, my pillow for governor and sham wow for Congress.
Infomercial insurrection.
offer vince shlomi
Let's make a combo.
Sham Wow gets sweaty at night, absorbs the pillow.
Something I don't know.
tim pool
Now he's going to be like, don't say my pillow makes you sweat.
offer vince shlomi
I know a studio.
I know a studio we can work in.
tim pool
There you go.
Actually, I have a MyPillow.
I use it every night.
I always do.
unidentified
It's actually cool.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
unidentified
It does.
tim pool
It's great.
I'm a big fan.
offer vince shlomi
The hotel I'm staying at right now, it's not the best, but the pillow is like one of the best.
It's all about the pillow.
It's all about the pillow.
phil labonte
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
When I sleep, I can sleep really good.
tim pool
Cheeseburger says, my pillow for governor.
Oh, I read that one already.
Misa Mori says, yesterday was my 35th birthday, and my step-on-snack board arrived today.
Got gold board three out of 10.
Also marks one year as a Tim Cast member.
Let's go post a picture on X and tag Boonies or who do we tag?
I don't know.
brett dasovic
Wait, so did he not know he was getting the gold board?
tim pool
No, it's random.
brett dasovic
Yeah, it was one of the golden ticket.
tim pool
Yeah, there's 10 snack boards.
brett dasovic
It's awesome.
tim pool
And so when you order, actually, let me check.
I think we're sold out of all the boards.
There might be one left.
Let me see what we got going on at the end.
offer vince shlomi
We'll do a trade with some sham.
I was bored.
I was kidding.
tim pool
I think we still have two boards left.
Yeah, we have two of the Richie bottle boards.
So if you want to get the assault bottle, it's a broken wine bottle.
The board series I did was weapons.
So we have the grenade, the .50 caliber, the battle axe, the single action resolver, and of course, Richie's broken wine bottle.
And I think there's like one or two left.
Grab them now because they're going.
And then you can see that they all have limited edition serialized versions.
So all the pro models, they're five.
And then the snack board, they were 10.
And so congratulations.
If you got them, there will only ever be 10.
And each is individually numbered.
So technically, there's only one, three.
Yeah.
You know, congratulations.
The next series we're doing is movies.
phil labonte
These are going to be great.
tim pool
My board is the best.
brett dasovic
What movie?
tim pool
I kind of just want to say what it is.
brett dasovic
Oh, you're keeping it.
tim pool
Okay.
I shouldn't say it.
It's the best one.
Everyone else is like, oh, that's clever.
Mine is legitimately the best.
It's just like, don't say it.
Don't spoil it.
All right.
We'll wait.
We'll wait.
offer vince shlomi
He's the boss.
tim pool
Omega Rosetsu says, Phil, Mitt Romney was a rat.
His father was a rat.
His father is why Michigan has the highest insurance rates in America.
And Romney's rat ass is why in Massachusetts, there is mandatory health insurance.
brett dasovic
None of those are the reasons Democrats would have hated him.
phil labonte
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Even like, you're probably right, but the issue is here is he's still going to be a racist, sexist, homophobic.
phil labonte
I grew up in Massachusetts.
I lived in Massachusetts when Romney was the governor.
I'm not saying that I liked Mitt Romney.
I'm saying that Mitt Romney was a Boy Scout according to the things that the left will attack him for.
You don't have to like him.
I'm not telling you you should like him.
tim pool
Jader Biker says, how does a Shamwa guy feel about the flex seal?
The commercial guy owns his product.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, he owns the product too.
Yeah, so I got to give him props for that.
He did his own commercial, and I mean, he's doing great.
He also did social media.
I never did social media.
phil labonte
I follow you now.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, thank you.
I didn't understand the.
I used to think like, oh, I don't want to follow me.
And somebody's going to try to find me or something.
So I was too old school.
But now I understand the value of it.
But anyway, yeah, I think that flex seal is pretty good, right?
Have you used it?
You bought it?
tim pool
I've never used it.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, okay.
I'm sure he'll send you one.
tim pool
Schnajberrys says, if I had a credit card when I was 10, I would have bought a slap chop, a sham wow, and some moonsand.
brett dasovic
Something about 11 p.m. to 2 in the morning makes you just want to spend money.
phil labonte
That's right.
offer vince shlomi
Moonsand.
tim pool
But does that still work anymore infomercials?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, yeah, because the eyeballs are gone.
So it's not cost-effective.
tim pool
So, how do you sell sham wows?
offer vince shlomi
Just naturally, it's just branded.
It's just, we sell them on Amazon and our website.
So, yeah, we sell a lot, actually.
tim pool
You don't do commercials anymore or anything?
offer vince shlomi
I don't do commercials for it, but you know, because I'm running for Congress, but I'm doing one with a new product called Black Wow, which will be, it'll be black.
So it'll be like, we might, you know, stronger, beefier.
Everyone should own a black wow.
tim pool
How many Bugattis do you own?
offer vince shlomi
I drive a crappy car right now.
tim pool
Oh, because I'm like.
offer vince shlomi
But I shouldn't.
tim pool
The amount of shit.
How many shamballs have you sold?
offer vince shlomi
At least like actual pieces about 100 million pieces.
tim pool
I was going to say it's probably some insane.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, it just was everywhere.
There was also a lot of knockoffs.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
So we sold a lot.
Except I'm not a good Jewish guy.
I don't know how to save money.
Just buy movies, spend money on movies.
And I did the inappropriate comedy.
I hired Adrian Brody, Michelle Rodriguez, and it's overspent.
I don't know.
I'm terrible with that kind of money.
brett dasovic
It's okay if you're negotiating.
tim pool
But did you have fun?
offer vince shlomi
I'm a good salesman, though, huh?
tim pool
Did you have fun?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, yeah.
I had fun.
Probably too much fun, like up and down, you know.
But yeah, I'm a good.
I think sometimes God makes you with like a certain amount of abilities.
And like, if you're a great salesman, you're going to have like negotiation skills.
Probably Too Much Fun 00:02:47
offer vince shlomi
It's going to be crap.
You know, it's like, it's kind of like he puts it in perspective there.
I don't know.
I just suck in negotiating.
Like, if you wanted to sell a car, you want $1,000?
I'll give you $1,100.
Is that cool?
tim pool
You have a bunch of other products too, though, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
offer vince shlomi
I have a shticky for shticky, like it's a lint roller.
tim pool
What is it where you like rinse it off or something?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, you rinse it off as opposed to having those paper towels at US.
Yeah, I said, oh, it's good.
The funny thing is the humor that was in the shticky, we can't even do now.
It's funny.
Like the TVs are like very censoring, and they're losing eyeballs because they're all going to the internet.
In the internet, you can say more things, you know.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
But on certain platforms, you can, I guess.
I guess it's relative.
tim pool
I'm not your buddy guy.
Says, I know some are tired of the negativity in politics, but no, evil is relentless.
It requires an eternal vigilance.
Our ancestors gave us wisdom in this.
However, this time there will be no escape.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, there is some truth to that.
The idea that if the Democrats win, they are going to try to change the structure of our government so that way Republicans can't win.
They want to look at, you know, California is the model.
California is basically one-party rule.
They've been able to pass whatever they want.
And as terrible as it is, that California is in massive debt.
They're the fifth largest economy in the world.
They could be the second largest economy in the world if they had business-friendly, business-friendly policies, but they don't.
And I think that it's in the past couple of weeks, a trillion dollars worth of tax revenue has left because of the talk on millionaire tax or billionaire tax.
It's terrible policy, and that's what will happen in the United States.
offer vince shlomi
They're creating, like I said, that army of the youth.
And they're very patient people.
They're like very patient.
And in three years, if they win the presidency, that's when they'll come at everybody.
And they'll be like the UK or the worst China.
But it's an existential threat, actually.
phil labonte
It is.
offer vince shlomi
And that's one of the reasons that motivated me to run, even though, yeah, it's difficult for me to run because a lot of hate, you know.
And it's unfortunate for kids because, you know, my daughter was when we voted for Trump a year and a half ago, she was like, she had the, she bought the t-shirt on her own, fight, fight, fight one.
And she was all gung-ho.
And then, you know, after a while, her friends kind of give her the side eye.
Hey, well, you know, and they turn because she doesn't want to lose friends.
So she kind of is neutral now.
phil labonte
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
And that's what I'm seeing.
That's why I said Make America Grow some Balls again because the new.
tim pool
Maxima.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
On Maxima.
I love it.
Yeah, I know we put it together like that.
Thank you.
tim pool
All right, what do we got here?
Andrew Starr says, stop listening to libertarians.
They're politically useless.
They're actually the enemy.
phil labonte
Stop being a libertarian.
Remains Online 00:13:05
phil labonte
That's what I did.
offer vince shlomi
Pick a side.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, the libertarians are just, you know, hey, we're against the government.
And so that's fine if Democrats are in office.
But when Republicans are in office and they're trying to do things that are going to be good for the country, you know, and they're like, no, we can't let the government do this because we don't want the government to do things.
Like, that's not a succinct, not a smart policy, you know?
tim pool
Freeman says, just wanted to touch on something Tim mentioned earlier.
The ADD and ADHD induced by short-form videos is real.
Think back to the 90s, MTV video editing style, quick cuts, no shot lasting longer than three seconds.
I started noticing this back in the 2000s.
unidentified
Yep.
brett dasovic
Oh, yeah.
110%.
tim pool
What's an example?
What was that?
brett dasovic
I mean, any music video from that time period would be a good example of that.
But off the top of my head, I wouldn't be able to give you a specific one.
But in general, the short form content that we're looking at now, like, I know, like, I don't know if anybody else pays attention to this stuff.
It's something that I have to do quite a bit.
But I try to keep an eye on what my social media usage is.
And my wife is very good about reminding me that I need to get off my phone as much as I need to as well.
And the moment that I do, it's like my brain reasserts itself.
And I can pay a little bit better attention if I'm watching something, if I'm doing work, taking notes and something like that.
But as soon as you get in that, you know, that mode of scrolling and stuff like that, it puts you in a worse mood.
I will contend that.
It's not just that it's destroying your attention span.
You get more anxious.
You are not as, you know, you are not as good of a, like, you are not as healthy of a person as you could be if you are scrolling all the time.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, I feel that too.
brett dasovic
Look at any ska music video from the, from the night.
Look at a mighty, mighty boss tones video.
offer vince shlomi
It short circuits the mind or something.
It's like a control max.
Hypnotism.
tim pool
Which video?
brett dasovic
Anyone.
Like any 90s song.
Look at the editing for it.
Maybe not like.
tim pool
The first night I get was just like a white room and they were dancing.
brett dasovic
Or like, what was the one from Jamericoi?
tim pool
Where the room was all moving.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Virtual insanity.
brett dasovic
Virtual insanity.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a good one.
offer vince shlomi
I just like.
brett dasovic
Everything was a fisheye lens back then.
offer vince shlomi
Even when you watch music videos, I'm older, so I remember they weren't cut up so fast.
But recently, every two seconds is a cut, cut, cut.
Music videos that cut up too fast.
It's like your mind goes nuts.
tim pool
And that's why we should ban all shorts.
Just get rid of them.
offer vince shlomi
It's slap chopping your nuts in your brain.
brett dasovic
Save time at work, too, if they ban shorts.
phil labonte
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
I mean, a little bit is okay, but let's mix it up a little bit, you know.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I'm guilty of it.
Like, I'll be scrolling on X and I'll watch a video and then the next one just pops up and it's like, oh, what's this?
brett dasovic
And the sad part about it is, is like you watch stuff of like actually great things.
Like I love watching videos from like guys like Master Carpenters who build like amazing stuff, but you gain nothing from it.
Like all you've done is watch this amazing thing that this guy built, but you didn't learn anything from it.
A lot of times they even frame it in the case of being like an instructional video.
Look how I did this, but you're not paying close enough attention to actually take anything away from what you're watching.
tim pool
You guys want to play my new video game?
It's called Vince Offer Goes to Congress.
You play as Vince Offer with a Sham Wow and DC has been overgrown by Swamp.
And check this out.
Is it going to blow your mind?
offer vince shlomi
Really?
Okay.
You just made this video?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Video game.
offer vince shlomi
Five years in the making.
Oh, five years in the making by Tim.
tim pool
Here you go, check it out.
This is what it's going to be like when Vince goes to Congress.
Look at him go.
phil labonte
Drain in the swamp.
tim pool
He's got his Shamwa.
He's coming.
That's a big Shamwa.
phil labonte
I like the fact that they got the headset on you.
offer vince shlomi
You look like the guy from Scout.
You ever see that game, Scout?
There's a Tamworth.
phil labonte
You got a Pit Boy on your arm.
tim pool
It does look like he's got a Pit Boy.
Wait, what?
He does have a Pit Boy.
Yo, wait.
Why?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Why did they put a Pit?
That's so weird.
This is Google Project Genie.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Look at this.
This is.
You got to clean it up, brother.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
We're going to get.
phil labonte
Turn around and see what's behind you.
Oh, there's the Capitol again.
offer vince shlomi
I'm dark hair hair.
unidentified
I like it.
offer vince shlomi
I like dark hair.
unidentified
That's good.
tim pool
Because they're based on it's all going to be like all the photos on the internet.
There's probably a ton of you.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, you know, there's a character called Scout before I be that is very popular.
I don't know what game you do.
tim pool
Why do you have a pit boy?
That's so weird.
Fallout Shamwow Edition.
You see how crazy AI is?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Bro, I just made a video game.
offer vince shlomi
I was waiting for the Shamwa to go in that.
Well, I guess it's too small.
I need like a big giant one.
phil labonte
How big was the biggest Shamwa ever?
tim pool
Look at that.
offer vince shlomi
Well, the Black Wow is going to be big.
phil labonte
It's going to be big.
offer vince shlomi
Big, stronger, leaner.
phil labonte
Ow, tight.
tim pool
Size?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
Every girl is going to want that black wow.
And the counter.
She can use it in the kitchen.
The counter.
I'm going to have her like in the table.
phil labonte
I love it.
This is a great idea.
You're going to sell another 100 million.
unidentified
Oh, we'll see.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see what we got here in these super chats.
Thinker for a life says Shamwa guy, please wear a sham wow suit if elected.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, right, right.
tim pool
Can you get a suit?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, I'm going to get.
I have a hoodie.
I'll send it to you.
tim pool
But can you get a full suit made of shamoo?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
That's an Ewokebuster skit.
Are we going to see that?
tim pool
We'll play that.
We'll play that in the future.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yo, check it out.
I said, Austin, Texas, Shamo guy.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, there's the bigger one.
tim pool
So this is you going to Austin to clean things up.
offer vince shlomi
Make the bad weird into a good weird in Austin.
tim pool
The bad weird.
offer vince shlomi
The bad weird?
We'll make it the good weird.
phil labonte
Yeah, they say that's their motto, right?
Keep Austin weird.
tim pool
Wait, look at your hair.
Oh, what did they do?
offer vince shlomi
Spanish.
phil labonte
That's like Brendan Herrera's hair.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think that's you.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, well, it's just maybe somebody definitely not you.
Oh, he's good looking, though.
I wish I looked like that.
I was kidding.
tim pool
All right.
offer vince shlomi
Well, you know, whoever he is, he's I want to be dateless on Valentine's Day if I look like him.
tim pool
You know what?
offer vince shlomi
I've been working out of Congress, so huh?
tim pool
Let's do this.
Let's do Austin, Texas, all swampy.
offer vince shlomi
It is kind of swampy.
You've been there?
You guys have been there?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Rioters.
phil labonte
I lived in Bernie for a little while.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like a year.
tim pool
Shamwa guy.
Shamwa guy running and jumping.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, I'm going to go.
Yeah, my new name is Vince Shamo Shlomi.
I'm going to change it.
Vince Shamwai, because it's too confusing.
I got too many names.
They used it against me.
G-O-P, Texas.
phil labonte
Song bitch.
offer vince shlomi
Coming after them, too.
I'm coming after everybody.
Democrats, everybody.
Republicans.
I don't care.
tim pool
There we go.
offer vince shlomi
Cleaning.
tim pool
There it is.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Look at that.
Shamwao guys coming to clean up the riots in Austin, all the swamp everywhere.
This is the new video game we just made.
offer vince shlomi
Is this a real game?
tim pool
So, Google Project Genie allows you to make these rudimentary third-person video games.
You can't really do anything.
offer vince shlomi
Right.
tim pool
But you can't sell it.
But look at this, bro.
Check this out.
phil labonte
Let's go.
tim pool
Come on.
offer vince shlomi
How fast can you clean?
phil labonte
Let's go.
offer vince shlomi
And the woke people are trying to grab me.
tim pool
Yeah, look at them protesting.
Jump.
phil labonte
Oh, you jump over there.
tim pool
Oh, you just jumped five feet.
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
Isn't this crazy, dude?
Look at this.
offer vince shlomi
Homeless trying to eat me or something.
tim pool
Yeah, look at their.
They're rioting.
offer vince shlomi
Billy Mays is coming out of his grave or something.
Trying to grab him.
tim pool
Let's jump over this person.
offer vince shlomi
Nice.
tim pool
Let's go.
You got to make your way to the Austin Capitol and just clean it up.
offer vince shlomi
The crime that's there.
Oh, the crime's gone though.
tim pool
You know the smoke everywhere?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
It's all flooded, swampy, and smoky from the riders and the woke.
phil labonte
Makes perfect sense.
tim pool
Maybe I could tell it to like Austin, Texas, but there's rainbows everywhere.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, cleaning the rainbows.
Hey, come back to the rainbow.
I know you want to track kids with a rainbow.
Come on, let's tell you.
tim pool
You double jump.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, nice.
phil labonte
That is the goal.
offer vince shlomi
It is.
tim pool
You can jump like five.
You got a five-foot vertical.
I'm impressed.
unidentified
Wow.
offer vince shlomi
I would have a basketball career.
Thank you.
You're making me well enough, right?
Yeah.
No, yeah.
But I didn't, you know, I'm white.
Can't jump that far.
tim pool
You get one minute to play in the AI-generated world.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Imagine what's going to come out next year.
phil labonte
It'll be crazy.
tim pool
Crazy.
offer vince shlomi
Next year it'll be like this new, gosh, everything's so refined.
And it's going to get more refined.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, now they've got AI agents and stuff that can actually do stuff if you let them, you let them into your passwords and stuff, and they can book you flights.
They can get you, you know, literally do things for you.
Like there's a lot of people that are using them to help make their workflow a lot smoother and stuff.
offer vince shlomi
Guys, put your AI down and just watch the Tim Pool show.
phil labonte
That's right.
offer vince shlomi
This is the Shamois guy, the greatest of all time pitch man, telling you, drink some pool water and listen to Tim Poole.
tim pool
We're just going to AI Timcast.
I'm not even kidding.
I'm going to make Tim Cast a voice.
offer vince shlomi
It will be nicer.
tim pool
Well, the AI has a problem cloning my voice for some reason.
He just can't do it.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
I'm not even kidding.
brett dasovic
Didn't sound like Tom Cruise in that fight with Brad Pitt either.
tim pool
But it could have been if he was doing this.
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
When was the last time you tried, though?
tim pool
Recently.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
It doesn't work.
And then people have made videos where it's like me, but I'm talking like this.
It just doesn't get it for some reason.
Joe Rogan, for some reason, it can do really, really good.
brett dasovic
How close does it get?
tim pool
Not very.
brett dasovic
Not very.
There have been times where I've heard your brother talking from outside a room.
He sounds vaguely like you.
Maybe get him to do it and it'll somehow end up with an approximation.
tim pool
Michael Malice came over a few years ago when he was coming on the show.
And my brother walked down the stairs and walked past him.
And Michael was like, hey, what's it?
And my brother kept going.
And my brother was like, yeah.
And like, what's up?
And kept going.
And then Michael's like, what?
Is Tim mad at me?
And then I came down.
He was like, oh, he thought Chris was me.
brett dasovic
He definitely sounds like you from like if you're across the room.
tim pool
We are brothers.
unidentified
You know?
tim pool
That is a thing.
Let's see.
A. Barnes says, did y'all see the fake Space Vulcan launch this morning?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Oh, Zephyrin Cochran?
Cochran?
Zephyrim?
Is that his name?
The guy who discovered warp technology on Earth.
You know, Star Trek.
Come on, guys.
phil labonte
What's it called?
tim pool
The fake space Vulcan launch.
Crystal Star says, I have a Shamois in my kitchen.
Use it every day after cooking.
offer vince shlomi
Oh.
tim pool
Aloha from Aloha, Oregon.
Yes, just southwest of Portland, Oregon.
Hi, Brett.
unidentified
Hello.
tim pool
Yikes.
All right, my friends.
We're going to go to that uncensored portion of the show over at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.
So smash the like button, share the show with every person in your life.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Vince, you want to shout anything out?
offer vince shlomi
Just real Shamois guy on X.
unidentified
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
And then, of course, the W Shamois guy to see all my policies.
And if you can tell people in North Austin, if you have friends there to vote for Shamois Shlomi.
Shlomi is the key word because they took the name Shamois out of my ballot.
And I'm depressed about it.
But you're going to make me happy after the uncensored version coming up, right?
That's going to make me happy.
unidentified
Yep.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms.
And I would love you guys to go and subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis.
We are getting dangerously close to 400,000 subscribers on YouTube.
We're growing on Rumble as well.
And we will have episode 1000 next Tuesday.
So you should come hang out with us for that.
So thank you guys so much.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can check out our stuff at allthatremainsonline.com.
We're going on tour this spring.
We're going out with Dead Eyes and with Born of Osiris.
We start April 29th in Albany.
We'll be out for about three and a half weeks or something like that.
You can go to All The Remains Online to get your All the Remains Online to get your tickets and VIP packages.
You can check out the music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We'll see y'all at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
This is my voice.
I might not be able to be here tomorrow.
You can already tell it's getting worse.
Yeah, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
offer vince shlomi
Hot tea.
tim pool
I should just, I'll make an AI segment tomorrow.
brett dasovic
There you go.
Do you like, so do you have a way of preventing that from happening?
Like to keep your voice in, like to keep your voice intact?
Recovery Isn't the Same Anymore 00:06:53
tim pool
I think the reality is I've been doing the same schedule I've been doing since I was, you know, in my late 20s and I'm going to be 40 and like my recovery isn't the same anymore.
So it's one thing to record five hours a day.
Now that I'm aging, my recovery is at the same levels.
You know what?
I was talking, I was, I've actually had some of the best skating of my life recently.
And I'm almost 40.
And it's funny because these guys on these skateboarders are like, man, Tim must have been super good when he was like 20 years old.
And I was like, well, yeah.
The difference was I skated every single day, not like for eight hours a day and I was burning the psychotic amounts of calories.
I've actually gotten better at skating, but now I can only skate like twice a week at maximum.
So I actually skate, I would try skating every day.
I'm like, I want to stay in shape, so I'm going to exercise every day.
Of course.
And I would, and I was like, man, I'm having a hard time skating at my highest level.
So then I would be like, well, I'll just take some days off.
Then I'd skate at my highest level.
And then I'd do some tricks better than I've ever done.
I'd be like, oh, wow, I'm getting it.
You know, the reality is that the skill's there, but the recovery isn't.
And that, duh, like every recovery.
brett dasovic
You would have to be doing it every day if you wanted that recovery to pick back up.
When you hired me and I was skating every day, that was two years straight, 365 days a year.
I was in the best physical shape I'd ever been in in 20 plus years of skating and was probably more consistent than I had ever been in my entire life, but wasn't taking the risks that I took when I was younger.
But my recovery time was much, much higher when I would fall because I was skating every day.
I did not take days off.
tim pool
What's your ex?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, realshamwauguy.com.
tim pool
We're going to play that.
Is this the Wokebusters?
offer vince shlomi
That's the short version.
There's a long version there.
Isn't there a long over?
tim pool
That's the pinned one.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Should I search for Wokebusters somewhere?
offer vince shlomi
Oh, it's on YouTube.
Yeah, that's all right.
tim pool
I'll do that.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, that's the ending of one.
brett dasovic
When you guys were out of town, I had like the run of the skate park when I'd get done with work.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Here we go.
offer vince shlomi
And I have four.
It's weird on the.
unidentified
Okay, so this is the case.
offer vince shlomi
I'll get you one of those hurties.
Mentos.
tim pool
Diet soda.
unidentified
That's the black wild with it.
tim pool
Sham wild with it.
unidentified
Do that, dude.
Who can you call?
Whoa, busters.
When this fences fall, who can call?
I hate each They're in, bud Whoa, busters.
You wanna be true, but she's claiming me too.
Who are you gonna call?
Whoa, Busters.
tim pool
And they can't tell you what your aunt tells you.
Did you have to like find a guy who looked like that?
unidentified
That's my daughter in the middle.
Who can you call?
tim pool
Ha ha ha.
unidentified
Busters.
They're more than none.
tim pool
Are gonna play.
unidentified
Who are you gonna call?
Very sexy.
Who you gonna call?
tim pool
When you're growing up, a man, but they got a different fan.
unidentified
Who can you call?
tim pool
A few good things.
unidentified
When you realize you're a schmuck, you're a sailing duck.
offer vince shlomi
Next up, we're snippin' top.
unidentified
Roadbusters.
offer vince shlomi
I ain't afraid of no woke.
tim pool
Let me tell you something.
unidentified
See, our team just ain't for me.
I ain't afraid of no.
phil labonte
This is the scene that I saw.
unidentified
Good greed.
But you drink in that boy, and the lame boy looks like a bad one.
I had to be a trans.
I think you better call.
I think you better call.
Whoa, busters.
offer vince shlomi
Who you gonna call?
unidentified
Whoa, Busters.
Eat me, I know.
Roadbusters.
Who are you gonna call?
Whoa, Busters.
offer vince shlomi
Black Friday shopping screen.
unidentified
Whoa, Busters.
Labor Alars.
Whoa, Busters.
I can't hear you.
Oh, that's uh.
She gave me the idea.
phil labonte
She was running for Congress as well.
tim pool
Running against it.
unidentified
You were running against her?
Yeah.
offer vince shlomi
She gave me the idea.
unidentified
Black washing.
offer vince shlomi
He's so hungry.
So this is the skit that inspired me to run for that.
phil labonte
To actually run.
Nice.
offer vince shlomi
Because I was going to put it out September 10th.
I sent an email to my graphics person send me the thumbnail and then Charlie dies September 10th.
I'm like, what the hell?
He is the wokebuster.
I just came.
I was going to put it out.
So, of course, I didn't put it out September 10th.
So I put it out on his birthday.
But then it got surprised.
Like, like, this video only got 40,000 views, but on Instagram, it gets 4 million views.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
My thoughts on the wokebusters thing would just be you going with a gun and shooting people.
That's part two.
Who are you going to call Wokebusters?
offer vince shlomi
And it's just, we're going to show it on Rumble.
Yeah.
That's like the X-rated version.
Pressure On Employers 00:07:52
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, no, that's good.
That's pretty bad.
That's really dark.
tim pool
Right.
offer vince shlomi
But that could be done.
tim pool
Things are a little too bad.
offer vince shlomi
That could be like part two.
All right.
I like that.
phil labonte
Wokebusters, too.
offer vince shlomi
So that inspired me to run.
And that's when I saw the algorithms.
tim pool
We're going to go to callers and we'll grab Esmodeus first.
What's going on, brother?
phil labonte
What's up, man?
unidentified
Hey, thank you.
Hey, thanks for having me.
phil labonte
What's the matter?
Yeah, we can hear you.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
Sorry.
So my question is, I didn't catch all the show, but I catched the first, I guess, 30 minutes or so.
My question is regarding the ICE withdrawal and Trump's overall deportation strategy.
I feel ICE should start focusing or should still focus on targeting violent criminals, but it's clear that the PR battle has been somewhat lost.
So I'm worried that they just focus on violent criminals, but instead put pressure on employers or finding them and arresting them and also go after services that illegals use so that they self-deport.
Do you feel that the withdrawal from Minnesota is just for PR to get a PR break and form a new strategy, or are they just going to continue as normal?
And what do you think the effects will be if they continue with the same strategy?
tim pool
I think it's heavy PR for sure, but they are pulling these guys out.
I think it looked really, really bad for them.
I don't think it's a victory.
I think they screwed up.
brett dasovic
They have to frame it that way, though.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
brett dasovic
Like lawyers, when they tell you, like, like you have to redefine what winning is in a case, like it's not going to be the same thing.
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the guys that are getting pulled out, they're not firing them.
They're going to be reassigned somewhere else.
So they're going to continue to do deportations.
They're going to continue to wrap up guys that are wrap up people that are here illegally.
I would have liked to see them stay in Minneapolis and really clean up the town, particularly because of the fact that it's kind of the epicenter now.
But I do understand why they're like, okay, we need to let this cool off a little bit.
And if they spread the guys out throughout the country and, like I said, they're still working and they're still deporting people.
You know, it is what it is.
It's not ideal, but I mean, they're still deporting people, you know.
brett dasovic
Everybody's like, Brett, why is your home state always so nuts?
unidentified
Yeah, every five years.
tim pool
What did you do?
brett dasovic
It's because I left, man.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
brett dasovic
They need me to come back.
phil labonte
Shame on you.
Shame on you.
tim pool
Nah, you'll probably get shot.
brett dasovic
So I saw an old friend of mine on one of the videos yelling at Nick Sortor.
phil labonte
Really?
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Good lord.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Oh, man.
phil labonte
That's terrible.
tim pool
Man, what a world.
phil labonte
Does that answer your question, Esmond Deus?
unidentified
I mean, just to add some more to it, I'm fully for a, I guess, a changing in strategy just because My wife is a green card holder, and some of the stories I've read about green card holders being detained and they're trying to deport them for relatively minor things like bouncing a check when they were dirt poor 10 years ago.
Oh, it concerns me heavily.
And I've also read stories of veterans being deported for minor crimes.
So it's definitely a PR nightmare.
And I think that they need to focus up and just put soft pressure.
Otherwise, the independents are going to be lost, I feel, because a lot of people aren't having the stomach for this.
And to be frank, if some of the stuff that I'm reading keeps happening, I might not either.
brett dasovic
I think that's kind of the point, though.
Like, that was the point of that many people entering the country illegally via the caravans several years ago is they knew they would turn it into something that would have to put people into a position to take a very, very hardline stance.
And people kind of laughed at me when I said, look, look, most people don't have the stomach to be a politician.
You don't have the stomach to do what they have to do right now.
And that's because I would agree with you.
Like now, when these people are your friends and your neighbors, it's a lot harder to take a hardline stance on immigration when you see the face of a person who you've humanized now in a very, very different way than you do somebody when you're just talking about pure statistics.
So in this case, I think the PR battle is already lost.
And if you're talking about the other side of the aisle, they lost a lot of the hardline conservatives when they wouldn't go after the factory farms or any of the places where they could do mass deportations on scale, instead focusing on neighborhoods where you're looking at the face of the people that you see as neighbors and friends and not necessarily the people that are being propped up by these businesses that are taking, you know, that are saving millions upon millions of dollars with literally slave labor.
So it's a PR nightmare for sure.
phil labonte
Yeah, unfortunately.
unidentified
I mean, I'm still for deporting people that came here illegally.
I'm just not a fan of deporting people for minor stuff because it just feels like the administration is just trying to boost their numbers up without caring about any actual progress.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I do think they've made progress.
And I don't think they've made enough progress.
I mean, like I said, I've got a pretty hardline perspective on illegal immigration and stuff.
But I do think that they've made some progress.
And I think that the black pilling is overestimating or the black pilling is just kind of focusing on what people wish would happen as opposed to what's a realistic result and realistic policy.
brett dasovic
It also speaks a lot to just how much of a role big business plays in the administration.
If he's not willing to go after the businesses that are doing this, then that tells you that he cares more at this moment about staying in good, you know, in good contact with these businesses than the citizens because the citizens are the ones that are suffering.
phil labonte
And that's been a big problem for Republicans for a long time.
You've got your rotary clubs that are applying pressure to politicians saying, you know, we like this about illegal immigrants or we like this or we don't want to lose the business or what have you.
And your average person, you know, they don't share the same opinions generally.
You know, if they're not business owners that actually profit from whether it be illegal immigration or whatever particular policy that generally conservatives don't like, but the business owners are like, well, it helps me.
You know, you get that friction there.
offer vince shlomi
So we should mix it up, too.
When immigration comes in, we should get from every country, you know, Nigeria, Sweden, Italy.
Otherwise, we get one facet of like a Spanish community only.
Like in LA, like my daughter's surrounded by only Spanish-speaking people.
And it's like, you need to assimilate or just like, this is an America where we're like a melting pot.
And if it's only one country that's coming in, it's not a melting pot anymore.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, we've seen like, I've seen some posts on X that look that say things like like 12% of Nicaragua lives here now, 800,000 people.
offer vince shlomi
I love Spanish people.
Don't get me wrong.
I just want to just mix it up because that's America.
Otherwise, let's just make it all Spanish and it's fine.
phil labonte
No, no, let's not.
offer vince shlomi
I'm just saying, that's why, but the point is, is like, that's why you just can't have an influx of all Swedish people or all one country because this is America, I think.
brett dasovic
Well, they also have a lot of them have an active disdain for the country that they're moving to.
It's like when the protests were going on in the summer and they were flying Mexican flags here in America so that they could stay here, which makes no sense.
offer vince shlomi
Right.
And then also that, yeah, then, of course, let's screen them a little bit, see if they like America or like, you know, see if they're going to be beneficial to our country and be productive citizens.
Sir, Yes Sir: Trans Joke Edition 00:06:22
offer vince shlomi
Save your voice, Tim.
Save that voice.
tim pool
I am.
offer vince shlomi
That's what we'll just talk.
tim pool
That's what the point of the show.
offer vince shlomi
I feel bad for you.
You work so hard.
But you know what?
You're motivating for me.
Like, oh, maybe I should work harder.
tim pool
Well, I'm trying.
And I took an ibuprofen so I could do the show.
offer vince shlomi
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Losing your voice is caused by inflammation.
If you take an ibuprofen, it's an anti-inflammatory.
offer vince shlomi
You got the weekend too.
tim pool
So I'm dying.
And it's funny because I've lost my voice quite a bit in the past five or six months.
I've been like three times.
brett dasovic
Yeah, there's another time.
So there was a day the other, like over Thanksgiving, where I did like a two-hour by myself and had to literally like, it took two or three tries after a couple of days to realize I had to slow down my rate of speech because my natural speech pattern is so fast that like 20 minutes in, it would start to go.
So if I had to like pull it back, it's actually good because you can actually focus better when you can slow down the rate in which you're speaking.
But I have to like, I have to cool it sometimes, depending on the day.
tim pool
Indeed.
As Medan, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, my wife's store.
I'll throw them in the chat.
offer vince shlomi
Get more excited, please.
brett dasovic
Yeah, you got to be more excited.
offer vince shlomi
You're going to have to be able to do it.
unidentified
No, I am.
It's just.
But yeah, my wife's store, she has two of them, Amazon, on Amazon, Tails and Tails for pet supplies, and Ivarno for bread bags.
If you want to preserve your, if you want to preserve your vegetables, your fruit, and not have it covered in microplastics, Ivarno has a great product for you.
And if you want to get your dogs organic chew toys like antler chews, we have those options too.
tim pool
Awesome.
Thanks for calling in, brother.
offer vince shlomi
What a good husband.
tim pool
All right.
offer vince shlomi
He's making some next up.
tim pool
We got T-Bone.
What's going on?
phil labonte
T-Bone.
unidentified
Good evening, gentlemen.
This is day one of being a Tim Cast member slash host in the Discord with the most energy and more energy than you, Vince.
But my question is for you.
offer vince shlomi
Right now, yeah.
Okay.
phil labonte
Okay.
unidentified
So, Vince, you've built your career off of selling products that soak up messes and make things clean in seconds.
How exactly do you plan to soak up the swamp in Congress?
And what's your top two specific pieces of legislation you'd push for first to actually drain it?
Especially because you were an icon of sales pitch.
So sell us.
What are you going to do, man?
offer vince shlomi
This guy sounds like an AI.
Are you real?
phil labonte
He's real.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
phil labonte
I am.
offer vince shlomi
You're the real AI guy.
No, that's a great question.
Wow, you got smart viewers and listeners.
So yeah, well, first, just financially, I want to help, you know, it doesn't make sense that you save money for Social Security and at the end, you got to pay taxes on it.
So we're going to get rid of, so I'm saying no tax on Social Security.
I mean, it's a simple thing, but I don't even know why it doesn't exist now.
So that's an easy one.
But like I said, the wokebuster motivated me because of the algorithms.
And I realized not just because of my channel, but also just the way it's affecting kids.
And they're just pushing, like if you have a trans joke, and obviously I have a trans joke in the Wokebuster, the algorithms are now promoting it to kids because it's making fun of trans, and that's going to ruin their whole vibe.
So I just don't like the algorithms that's going on.
I think it's corrupt, and I just want open source on all platforms.
I know Elon's done it for X.
So that's one of the main reasons I'm doing this.
And it's just so happened to, I came out with Wokebuster when Charlie Kirk died.
And I don't know, it's some kind of like, to me, something above is making me do this, you know.
And so that's, that's my inspiration for making this happen.
phil labonte
Awesome.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
Hopefully that answers the question.
tim pool
Follow up.
unidentified
How do you create short and sweet catchphrases, or are you giving them with all the products that you've done?
offer vince shlomi
Yeah, the double entendres are working pretty good.
I just, yeah, I don't know.
I feel, do you ever feel like Tim Day, someone above is giving you ideas sometimes?
Or just because sometimes I feel like above angels or something?
unidentified
Maybe.
offer vince shlomi
Like I wake up in the morning, I just get thoughts sometimes.
Yeah.
I wonder where it's coming from.
unidentified
Huh?
offer vince shlomi
Epiphanies.
tim pool
You know, one of my funny little thoughts is that people have varying degrees of connection to, I guess you could describe it as divinity.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
And some people have a diminished capacity.
And I think liberals have a diminished capacity.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
tim pool
And the reason why they can't understand things while they're very culti is because they can't, their minds can't see beyond the veil.
offer vince shlomi
Right.
They're just so immersed in that hate.
It brings them down.
tim pool
Well, they can't see.
And the reason why there are disaffected liberals who are seeming with conservatives because these are the people who can see.
offer vince shlomi
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
That's true.
tim pool
It's sort of like, here's my theory.
You ask somebody who believes in God, and they'll tell you that they have a relationship with God.
They talk to God.
And liberals say that's insane.
No, you don't.
Well, that's perception is reality.
And what if it's actually simple?
I know God exists.
They don't.
It's possible that they just lack the capacity to perceive.
And so to them, it's impossible.
If they can't do it, no one can.
And to people of faith, they're like, I talk with God all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's true.
offer vince shlomi
That's what I've been doing.
You know, I feel like if you believe in God or you believe angels are helping you or something, I think they'll communicate back.
It's like a bunch of ants.
You have red ants everywhere.
And one looks at you and you know it's looking at you because you're going this way now.
And it's like, I want to help that ant.
So I might say, oh, the food's that way go that way.
So I kind of feel sometimes because I believe in God and angels and beings that they're helping me through a path.
And that's sort of like also inspiring.
That's kind of like what I feel.
And of course, it's just so ironic that the woke bust was coming out when he passed.
So I just, again, that and the algorithm, then I saw the algorithms and I thought, oh, that's hurting.
That's an existential threat that it's covered up.
So we're going to hopefully expose that, the algorithms and the codes.
And then everybody's everybody's channels on every platform will be better, especially if it's good.
And that's kind of what one of my first bills.
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offer vince shlomi
I think you asked that question too, what I'm going to do.
So yeah, my first bill is the open source codes.
unidentified
Yeah.
Excellent.
Yeah.
tim pool
You want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?
Is there anything else?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Thanks for taking my questions.
I just wanted to shout out the Discord where there are so many new, amazing changes, especially with the After Dark show where all the callers will be in there for the After Dark show.
Also, my podcast called The Drive-In on the Romanation Network.
That is riseofmiddleamerica.com.
And last but most importantly, I want to shout out the boonies to all the skaters, the scooters, and yes, Brett, the Bladers too.
So shout out to all of you guys.
tim pool
Calling on, thanks for calling in, brother.
Have a good night, guys.
unidentified
Have a good night.
tim pool
All right.
Next up, we've got, I love this guy's here.
Philly Cheese45.
offer vince shlomi
Your hair is wild.
phil labonte
What's up, Philly Cheese?
unidentified
Hey, good evening, everybody.
How's it going tonight?
offer vince shlomi
It's going.
unidentified
So thank you for taking my call.
I've been thinking about this past for a while now, honestly.
I've been working with my daughter on teaching guitar and music and other kind of creative endeavors.
And I know the past few episodes and tonight, too, you've been hitting on AI pretty hard.
So I want to get your take from the panel as successful and proven creators.
So my question, do you see AI as the death knell for creative endeavors and specifically the local artist?
Or is this simply kind of a new baseline for creative expression?
Kind of like I'm thinking like when the electric guitar was first introduced to Rocky Blues.
tim pool
It's over because it's, you know, I remember when in the 90s, I'm a little kid, and people would complain about Synth and Electronica and be like, you know, in the 2000s with Fruity Loops and all the stuff coming out, they're like, it's not real music, play an instrument.
The issue now is those were tools to make a certain kind of music.
AI can create full productions in 10 seconds, which means there is going to be a shotgun blast to the face of top-level high-production music.
And it's one thing to be like, hey, I can use this drum machine to make a beat for my song, and it still takes work to do, but it's faster.
And then, hey, AI rendered 7,000 studio quality songs.
It's over.
brett dasovic
It's like the guy who does the guy on Instagram, the emo realtor, who makes emo songs for all of his listings and he does it all with Suno.
Imagine he had to try and do that and make his own songs every time he wanted to do that, but he doesn't have to now because he can do it with AI.
I will say that the slowdown to it, though, is like one of the examples I give is like after Brad Arnold passed, I was thinking about it because there's actually, there's an AI rendering of the song Here Without You that I think is, it's absolutely fantastic.
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