THEY FINALLY DID IT | Timcast IRL #1447 w/ Jack Posobiec
Jack Posobiec joins Timcast to mock the GOP’s support for the SAVE America Act, a voter ID bill Democrats falsely claim disenfranchises women, despite 70–80% of them favoring it. They critique AI-generated content—like 11 Labs’ voice cloning (flawed on Posobiec but perfecting others) and viral deepfakes—while dismissing Nielsen’s TV ratings as inflated compared to Timcast IRL’s 43,000 concurrent streamers. Posobiec argues Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl halftime show was a globalist provocation, contrasting it with Kid Rock’s faith-driven performance, which he claims drew 85 million views when accounting for TV audiences. The episode ends questioning whether movements prioritize ideological attacks over evidence, like Epstein-related controversies targeting Steve Bannon while ignoring others, and warns of AI’s potential to weaponize misinformation. [Automatically generated summary]
Despite the fact, the polls show that around 70 to 80% of Democrats are in favor of voter ID.
And literally any sane, rational person thinks if you're going to vote, you should have an ID to prove it.
But for some reason, it's only the Republicans who really want this.
Again, despite the fact that the voter base across the board agrees you need it.
So I have a question for everybody.
Feel free to comment and let me know what you think.
Why do Democrats not want to have voter ID?
Well, the reason they're giving is that it would ban women from voting.
Guys, you've already convinced me we need voter ID.
You don't need to sell me anymore.
I'm kidding.
But that's their argument.
Democrats are arguing that this would block women from voting.
If that were true, conservatives would vote twice as hard and they'd rally substantially more.
I'm kidding again.
Calm down.
It's not correct.
It's a nonsense argument.
They're saying because you need an ID to vote.
This means women who are still using their maiden names but have legally changed it can't vote.
And let me just tell you, it's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Anybody who's married know that's also very stupid.
And yeah, whatever.
So we're talking about that.
Plus, we've got crazy news.
Mexican cartel drone incursion near El Paso shutting down the airport.
Some conflicting reporting where CBS is, I think it was CBS reporting, that it was actually a balloon, but we've got still more reporting from credible sources that, no, this is a Mexican cartel drone incursion shutting things down.
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And then we've got Joe Rogan's reaction to the Epstein email files where he was invited to meet Epstein.
One of his guests was trying to get him to meet Epstein, and Rogan was like, what?
Are you nuts?
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And literally everything is Jack Pezobik.
What's up, man?
Good to be back.
Good to be back in the saddle here at Timcast.
Indeed.
After that smashing halftime show you guys put on.
Well, glad to have you.
Thank you.
I mean, it was, you know, it was something that was clearly inspired by Charlie.
There's no question about it.
And look, I may have had, you know, sort of the tweet that started the ball rolling on all this.
Clearly team effort, Erica getting behind it and saying, let's do this and taking a risk, taking a gamble, making a huge bet like that.
And look, we knew it would be big.
We had no idea it would be this.
Like 30 million at this point or more?
We're looking all in with all of our partners beyond streaming, beyond YouTube, possibly 40, 50.
Ooh, wee.
So, you know, what's amazing about that is this means advertisers are going to take a look.
And it is insane that the NFL decided to create a market opportunity for competition on the Super Bowl.
That's what's crazy about it.
Let's save it for the show.
Yeah.
Let's talk about it.
But amazing, amazing.
Thank you.
No, it was.
I mean, we thought it would, I thought it would do well.
I had no idea we'd have numbers like this.
Super cool.
No, I was, I, me neither.
I was sitting, I was at MGM National Harbor.
And so I looked, it's a sport, it's a big sports book.
Everybody was gambling, right?
And I picked up my phone and I pulled it up, and it was like 3.4 million concurrence right when it started.
And I showed people, I was like, holy crap.
I got to say, I thought it was a glitch.
I thought something was wrong.
I was like, no, that can't be like that.
There's an M that should be like a K. Yo, but let me tell you, like, there was an old Asian lady next to me when Bad Bunny came out and she was like, what is this?
And I thought it was funny.
I'm like, bro, I had a Latino guy in front of me.
I had two Asian ladies next to me.
I had an old white guy.
And everyone agreed, like, we don't know what Bad Bunny is.
We're not paying attention, right?
But let's say it.
Let's say, Jack, thanks for hanging out.
It's going to be fun.
Tate Brown's holding it down.
What is going on, Patriots?
Tate Brown, you're holding it down.
You have like 40 million viewers.
Canada has like, what, 35 million people?
The colonization is just very obvious.
We just send a viewer over.
One for one for one.
Tell everybody if they want to see the halftime, so they got to go to Canada and we outvote everyone.
Yeah, we just cast a vote and it's over.
Yeah, because everyone's welcome there.
No one's illegal on stolen land.
Yeah, exactly.
Trump can be installed as king.
I think this makes Quebec loose.
But, but no, because Trump's, remember, Trump's mother was Scottish.
True.
Which means that he can claim a right to the throne of Great Britain.
And because Canada is a Commonwealth country, boom, King of Canada.
He's already in charge.
I love it.
We're playing a long game.
Long game.
Beautiful.
Long game.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Philavante.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal man, all that remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
Here's a story from CNBC: The Save Act House advances Trump-backed voter ID bill.
The Save America Act, supported by President Donald Trump, would require proof of citizenship to register to vote and a photo ID at the ballot box.
The legislation would make it harder to vote.
Democrats and voting rights groups warn and has been the subject of a pressure campaign from the White House congressional GOP hardliners and right-wing influencers.
I just can't.
I can't even with this.
Now that the bill has advanced out of the House, it has slim odds of passing in the Senate where 60 votes are needed to overcome a filibuster.
I am, let me just say this.
The Republicans need to just get rid of the filibuster.
Just goodbye.
And I also want to stress this.
The fact that CNBC is putting in these caveats of like Democrats say it'll make it harder to vote.
Yes.
First of all, good.
More importantly, shut up.
It's voter ID.
Okay.
When I go to a gas station to buy a 40, a King Cobra, they ask for my ID.
Okay.
And that's the least consequential thing I might do.
Time, you drink a lot of King Cobra?
All the time, bro.
He's off like two or three.
Oh, dude.
Is that still around?
They still have King Cobra.
Look at me.
When I was 18, it's all we would drink.
Dude.
Odyssey and King.
And I'm 18.
You're not supposed to drink.
So I recommend against it.
But it was like $1.40 for a 40.
It was guaranteed to get drunk on the weekend for a bunch.
They used to have 40s for $10 for $1.50, you'd get a 40.
What are the birth rates so?
The show is already off the rails.
Yeah, birth rate would skyrocket if we got the price.
And it was like, it was like a joke in my community, in my neighborhood with all my friends because it was so dirt cheap.
But we were like, bro, you could panhandle, get drunk on a Friday night.
So it was like, let's party.
And like, you go to something, like, I get a dollar for the bus.
I'm going to go buy King Cobra.
Don't do that.
Anyway, the point is, when you walk in to do some of the most inconsequential things you can think of, they ask for your ID.
In fact, some people get asked for their ID literally just walking down the street sometimes.
That's just nothing.
And then they're like, would you like to have a say in who our government is going to blow up overseas?
Yes.
Don't need an ID for that.
Well, you look at the documentation.
It's a real ID, right?
If you want to fly in this country, if you want to have right of mobility to be able to fly on an airplane, you need either a passport, which requires all sorts of identification to get, or one of the real IDs, which is also requiring birth certificates.
And by the way, if you got married, you have to show your marriage certificate, which this is crazy, by the way, because my wife, you know, I tested this out.
I married her.
She changed her name to my name.
Like this was all a big voter ID test.
And then I was like, okay, were you able to figure out how to vote?
She figured it out.
She totally figured it out somehow.
So that's one.
That's one.
We got one.
Very impressive.
We got one.
It's crazy.
You go to the library and you want to use the computer there.
You got to have an ID.
Use the computer at a voting precinct.
You don't need one.
It makes zero sense.
The homeless people go into the library to jerk off.
They're like, you need an ID for that.
I love it.
You don't need one to what, jerk off in a voting book?
I don't get it.
There's a, it was a funny post on X.
They were like, if, who said this?
If voter ID.
No gooning in the tape.
Tate.
No, they do that.
If voter ID is racist, IDs are racist, right?
If the idea is it's racist to ask someone for an ID to vote, then it's racist to ask someone for an ID ever.
But you know what the thing is?
That's actually what they're trying to do.
Right?
Look at the illegal immigration issue.
If I'm walking down the street, I'm going to be completely honest.
And the libertarians are going to start screaming and banging on the floor.
If I'm walking down the street and a cop comes up to me and says, excuse me, sir, you match your description.
You have an ID on you?
I bet, yeah.
Here you go.
Is there something going on?
That's all that happened.
Well, that was the whole thing with this DoorDash driver down in the Nancy Guthrie thing last night.
Oh, he didn't give his ID?
No, no, no.
He gave his ID, but it was the description.
So he matched the description and they said that he had worked in Tucson.
And I guess somebody had called in and said, oh, the eyes, because you could see the mask.
And that was all it was.
And they went to a judge and were able to get a search warrant for his house just based on that.
Wow.
That's crazy.
I look, I don't like the idea of like cops stopping everybody in like papers, please, but it's not that big a deal for a cop to be like, you know, we're just, we're looking for somebody of an ID.
Like, here you go.
I'm not going to answer any questions.
Appreciate it.
Thanks.
Have a nice day.
I saw a list of how many.
That's racist.
I saw a list of the countries that require an ID to vote.
It's like 100 of them.
Like, it is the most normal thing in the developed world to say, we've got to see an ID to make sure that you are who you are and that you're eligible to vote.
The only reason to not, and everybody's been saying this, you know, ubiquitously on X, but the only reason to not is because you're looking for ways to cheat.
You're looking for ways.
It's so obvious.
Completely obvious.
Well, considering that even Democrat voters are like, we should have voter ID.
Right.
Everybody agrees with it.
The Democrat politicians are like, no, you don't understand.
We'll never win again.
I mean.
You don't understand.
It's a wedge issue.
Oh, I didn't know.
Did you, I just wanted to.
Women and wait, there was a TikTok.
Do you remember when Joe Biden said that he had that line about like black people can't get online or something?
They don't know how to use the internet.
He said this.
Kathy Hochle as well.
And then someone, there was a black TikToker and he made this video.
Oh, is that where he's bouncing up?
Where he's just like bouncing up and down and like smashing.
Oh, Kathy Hochle.
Was it Kathy?
There's kids in the Bronx that don't even know what a computer is.
He's like jumping around on like, sorry.
It's crazy.
Is that real?
No, no.
I thought, okay, hold on this point.
Because it sounds like something Biden would say, to be fair.
This is what pisses me off.
A black man.
He's like, he's like a black man jumping up and down like he's a monkey, smashing the computer.
And that was like, there's nothing racist about doing that.
He was criticizing their racism.
Trump puts out this video where they put the faces of all these Democrats on animals from the Lion King.
It was a Lion King.
And then everyone's like, Trump's a racist.
And you know what pissed me off?
Media Matters took my quote and ran with it as if I'm racist.
I said, it's not racist.
Not every depiction of a stereotype is racist.
The intention matters.
My point is, could you imagine if it's like, hey, guys, for lunch day at the office, I'm ordering a whole bunch of Buffalo Wild Wings, but not for the black employees because that would be racist.
Did you believe what Tim Poole did?
He ordered a bunch of fried chicken and then he has black employees eating them.
I'm like, yes, because everybody loves it.
It's not racist.
Okay.
Someone making a meme video where there's a bunch of Democrats on the faces of animals does not mean that Trump intentionally depicted the Obamas only as apes and then insulted them as if they were.
That would be racist.
And this is the reality we get.
So anyway, I bring that up only because we point that, as Kathy Hochul says, black people don't know how to use computers.
A black person made a video of him pretending to be like a monkey confused by a computer.
No outrage.
Come on.
Everyone thought it was funny.
It could have been real.
I don't know.
Maybe he really hadn't seen a computer before.
We documented it.
But somehow he got on TikTok.
So I just, you know what I really love about this narrative that women don't know how to vote is.
So true.
You know, I think we should roll with it.
I think we should just say to the Democrats, you know, you are right.
Women aren't that smart.
Right.
And that's a problem.
Maybe they shouldn't vote then.
If the argument from Democrats is that women don't know how to change their names, which is like a standard thing every woman does when they get married, then every good woman.
Every good woman.
Oh.
Some hyphen.
Spice, spice, spice.
That's the other point, too.
You don't have to change your name.
So like, this would be that women can't vote.
No, because conservative women definitely want to vote and liberal women aren't changing their names.
So they can have a nice day.
Yeah, what if the women get hurt at the voting booth?
I would hate if that happened.
You know, that's a really great point.
They might prick themselves on the pen and get an infection.
Yeah, break it.
And then it's amputation.
Yeah.
And then gangrene.
You know, we should just make sure that we're near the voting booth.
The funniest thing about this, too, though, is that when you look at, when you look at actual demographics in just any post-election poll, any exit poll, you're going to see married women typically tend to vote more Republican to begin with.
Yes, that's correlation, not causation.
Perhaps, but conservative women are more likely to get married.
Well, because they're more likely, of course, of course.
But my point being is, so if married women were to the, it was to the detriment for voter ID, then conservatives actually thought that was a problem.
Then wouldn't we be the ones shooting ourselves in the foot if we're for voter ID?
Like, wouldn't it benefit the liberals to have voter ID then?
Because it would disproportionately affect conservative women.
Yeah.
Right.
Arguably.
But they don't.
But it's like, you guys, your own argument, even within your own frame, doesn't make any sense because it would benefit you.
But that's if for some reason this were true.
But that's why I'm saying we got to roll with it.
So if you ever debate a liberal, like I'd love to see, you know, like Michael Knowles debate Harry Sisson again.
And he can say, you know what, Harry, I agree.
Women aren't smart enough to figure out how to vote.
So, you know, maybe we should consider that.
Can you say that for everyone publicly that women can't figure this out?
Say it.
Right.
All right.
And then he's going to be like, well, of course they can figure it out.
Oh, so there's no problem with voter ID then.
So Scott Adams used to talk about this.
And, you know, I don't know if you've seen the whole controversy with AI, Scott Adams.
It's like this whole, it's huge back and forth thing.
Well, let me say the first part for that where he used to say that the way the way you can defeat bad arguments is through like aggressive agreement with them.
Yeah.
Just aggressively agree with everything and then push it as far as possible.
Well, that's a standard tactic called rapport extreme turn.
Right.
So we've explained it on the show.
101.
Here's a lesson for you guys.
Whenever you're trying to persuade someone, and Scott Adams was a master of this stuff.
Of course.
You can't approach them as an enemy.
You have to approach them as a friend.
So that's the first step is rapport.
So when someone approaches you with a statement, you agree with it.
They say the SAVE Act is sexist.
It's going to disproportionately affect women.
You're right.
Your response is, you are so right.
These maggots are trying to take women's right to vote away.
Now you have rapport.
This lowers their defenses and they say, oh, okay, this person's a liberal.
They're like me.
You then offer them the extreme, which is, you know, women just aren't smart.
Their IQs are lower than men's.
Men are smarter.
And the Republicans, they're trying to take away women's right to vote because they know women are just generally not that intelligent relative to men, of course.
Liberal can't agree with that.
So now you've entered their arguments on their side and then made a point in their argument they cannot agree with, creating an extreme.
Then when they say, well, I don't know about all of that, you give them what's called the turn, which is a solution in your direction where you say, okay, well, I guess you're right.
I mean, women are smart enough to figure out how to vote even with an ID.
You, I agree.
So once again, you're agreeing with them, but you've inverted their point by pushing them too far.
So good.
Yeah.
That was, we, we had this back in, I want to say it was 2020 or 2021 when, you know, like peak woke era, my church at one point, for whatever crazy reason, had put out this email and they were saying, oh, we're going to be setting up like a racism council at the church.
And I was like, pro or anti-race.
It was like a racial justice.
It was like a racial justice.
We're going to be more racist.
And so put a council together.
And so, and I remember, I was like talking to my buddy and I was like, is there like a, is there like a racial problem at the church?
Like, or people not sitting.
And we are not.
We are certainly not.
And, you know, like, are we not sitting close enough together?
But then I was like, then I was like, at the same time, I was like, you know what?
The best thing to do here was like, so I volunteered to lead it.
I want to lead the race.
And I was like, this is going to be great.
I'm going to create all these rules and like strictly enforce them that if you're, if you're like a white family and you're not sitting close enough to a family of color, like there's going to be a problem.
And I come out with like a like a yardstick and be like, oh, this is not close enough.
No, bro, you missed an opportunity.
The further you are away, the more you have to tithe.
That's right.
Yeah.
There's going to be monetary penalties.
They're going to be all sorts of.
And it ended up not going that far.
And then they just kind of stopped talking about it.
But I was like, I kept telling them I wanted to volunteer to run it.
Yeah, I want to be the head of the racism council.
Pro-or anti-cause I want to be involved.
I want to be happy to be involved.
Hold on.
To be completely honest, anti-racism and pro-racism are very much the same thing.
They're very much the same thing.
Explained in a different way.
So when the left is like, this was the woke versus racist comedy that Ryan Long and Danny Polish did.
Basically, you have the woke person say, we have a problem with racism in this, you know, in this church.
So we need to give black people their own private space away from white people.
And then the pro-racist guy says, you know, you're right.
Yep.
Completely agree with you.
Yeah.
Yeah, literally.
Like when they were doing the dorms, they were like making the black only dorms a few years ago.
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Yeah.
Isn't that a good idea?
And then he's had like a section that's like, well, I got a pretty good idea.
It's kind of crazy.
Do you Indian only dorm?
Is that a possibility?
It's kind of crazy that they're discovering racism from first principles, right?
Exactly.
Did you see that there's like hundreds of thousands of fake degrees being given out in India?
I saw that.
Oh, God.
I did see that.
Basically, what's happened, and maybe we should pull this up in a bit, but there's fake degrees being given out.
And then these Indians will apply for high-level visas to the United States with a fake degree.
Dude.
So we're bringing in people who are doctors and they're not doctors.
Is India the scam capital of the world nowadays?
Is it true?
You know, there's a saying in hacker culture: if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
And I'm just going to refer to them as a hacker culture.
Yeah, they're just tracking the system.
Well, it's overperforming.
That's the issue.
Well, to throw it out, because I did mention it, so this, the controversy right now over AI Scott Adams and the estate is totally against it.
They've asked them to stop.
However, we don't know exactly who it is.
There's this AI Scott Adams show, which has been running.
And people were, you know, I shared it once because.
Oh, they're like making videos of him or something?
Well, it's like they're keeping the show going.
And he had said a number of times that he had wanted his, you know, his likeness to be used publicly.
And he said, and he said a couple of times, like many times over the years, that I want to be the first AI entity that goes on in perpetuity.
And so someone actually took him up on it.
However, towards the end, when he knew his health was fading, he did also come out and say, I'm not sure if I want to do this anymore because I don't know if AI is ready for it.
And so he said, you know, maybe we just do something where it's like a Scott Jr., a son of Scott, but it's not actually me.
And so there's this huge controversy over it because the estate has asked him to stop, but the guy is going to those other, you know, permissions when he gave them on air and saying, well, look, he said this so many times.
And so what's crazy, though, is it on X or something?
It's yeah, if you just AI Scott Adams on X and no spaces or anything.
And what's crazy, though, is the guy has the AI Scott Adams debating whether or not he should exist.
Oh, gosh.
And like, maybe, oh, is this it right here?
Yeah.
And if you, and it's, I mean, it, it's very realistic.
It's very, very realistic.
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Bro, I'm over it.
I'm done.
I'm getting my chickens.
I'm going to get, I'm just going to wear some leathers that I get off a deer.
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We probably couldn't have had this a lot earlier.
Do you remember it was like literally six or seven years ago at this point where someone perfectly modulated Jordan Peterson's voice?
Yeah.
And when he came out.
Yeah, well, he came out and he was like, oh, this is unacceptable.
Please take this down.
This is terrifying.
That's kind of crazy.
Well, I remember that on this show, there was an AI voice minute, a voice replicator of Joe Rogan.
The first time this was ever done, it was a university that released this model where you could type something in and make Joe Rogan say it.
And then I think they disabled it right away because they were like, okay, this is bad.
And then a bunch of companies came out using that model.
And now you can literally clone anybody.
I will say this.
These weird, for whatever reason, they have a hard time cloning my voice and cadence.
I don't know why.
It never sounds like me, but Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Donald Trump, Ben Shapiro, it nails these voices.
Well, it was 11 Labs was the big one.
And then I think they just kept getting sued.
So they took away the ability.
You have to verify that it's your voice.
If you can do a killer like Jordan Peterson, you can verify with your imitation and still keep the voice.
Don't ask coins.
No, I actually know that because I was using 11 Labs for some projects both before and after that thing came out.
And so I was, I was just messing around with it.
And I think we did like a, what did we do?
We, we, We did a Charlie Kirk one and I just had, and it's obviously before everything happened.
And I just had Charlie saying like funny stuff and then I was sending it to him to just mess with him.
But we were just doing it as a proof of concept and he and he had thought it was hilarious.
He's like, when did I say that?
I never said that.
And but then we explained it to him.
He's like, this is really cool.
And he was, he was super into it.
And he was like, he was like, we can do, he's like, this could be a time maximizer.
Like, I could type something.
It could record it.
You know, whatever.
But I didn't have to verify it.
It was all these things we were supposed to be doing with AI that were going to unlock so much productivity.
But when he met me and my friends got our hands on 11 Labs, we were just threatening each other with Ben Shapiro's voice.
Like, hypothetically speaking, if I were to kill you right now.
You've seen all the David Attenboroughs.
Yeah.
I mean, you can go to YouTube and watch all kinds of videos.
There's a bunch of videos that are just talking about space or physics or whatever.
It's David Attenborough to voices.
There's the one where it explains memes with David Attenborough.
But here's my problem with it.
That it can't replicate my speech patterns, cadence, or sound of my voice, because if it could, I could just have Tate do everything for me forever and I could just leave with my chickens and he could literally just go on Grok and be like, write a Tim Pool script.
Then he can upload it to 11 labs and click send.
And then it would just be a video of me every morning.
We should be doing a Korean language model.
Not only that.
With English phonetic sounding words.
Oh, and that's been around forever too, where you can, we've done this actually.
We took one of my morning segments and converted it into all these different languages.
You don't have to.
Here's the thing.
I have that for you.
YouTube does it already.
You don't have to do any of that.
YouTube does it already.
You can have a Moltbot, the AI agents.
You can have one do that all for you every day.
Just tell it, hey, this is what I want you to do.
Give it the passwords to the YouTube channel, and it'll go ahead and write the video.
I have that for my show now.
So we have an Espanol, like Real America's Voice Español.
So my show comes out in Spanish every day.
But YouTube does it automatically.
That's the thing.
So we were actually looking at AI services because we were like, hey, if we do, you know, Timcast Spanish, Timcast French or whatever, it might not be a ton of viewership, but viewers are viewers.
And then we actually got some samples because they're automated services.
You just upload it and press go and it's done.
And my mouth is moving in Spanish.
And I'm like, oh, let me amigos.
And then we decided not to do it because YouTube automatically integrated AI.
So they can just click it.
Yeah, apparently now YouTube has integrated language stuff.
Well, the one other one, and of course he said no, but when Bannon went to jail in 2024, we pointed out that we could create an AI Bannon to do War Room while he was adamantly opposed.
He hates AI.
He's like, it's all the Antichrist.
He doesn't want it at all.
It's all demonic.
He's actually, I believe, if I remember correctly, all AI, even Zuno, is banned from War Room.
He will not allow anything.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm just going to launch Timcast AI as a channel and just see if it works.
I'm going to be like, hey, look, you know, your choice.
You want to listen to it or not?
Two hours of just AI IRL.
Well, I told ChatGPT.
So I don't write scripts.
And then it gets better views.
And then what you do is you use a video generator and you just say, I got to be honest, you could get one of these agents like Phil's talking about and say, I need a 20-minute long video based on this script, show examples and articles.
It will pull them.
It will do it for you.
Like, we're there, bro.
It's now.
We were screwing around with Project Genie earlier and we made the Ice Agent Minneapolis video game.
We literally, you can't beat the protests or anything like that.
Tim tried to give him a sword.
I did.
A wooden sword.
A Boken.
A Boken.
Boken.
And it didn't work.
It did not give the I wanted the Ice Agent to run around because it's just wood.
Those aren't familiar.
A Boken is a long wooden katana-like instrument.
They use them in Anaheim on horseback.
In Anaheim.
What's going on in Anaheim?
So I was down there for a protest like 10 years ago.
And there are cops on horseback with Boken, and they're riding around and they're wielding swords.
They're wooden, though.
So they hurt.
Okay.
How much did they hurt, Tim?
Well, I didn't get hit by one, but I did see.
No, I'm kidding.
So I asked Chet GPT, I don't write scripts.
I just talk, right?
I said, write a script about AI advancement in the style of Tim Pool.
And it didn't really get it right because it started with, all right, so here's what's happening.
I never do that.
I always just press record and I go, over the last few years, artificial intelligence has just improved.
It's accelerated.
I don't mean marginal upgrades.
I mean exponential shifts in capability.
Systems that once struggled to complete basic sentences are now writing code, generating realistic video, analyzing legal documents, diagnosing medical images and operating autonomous systems in real time.
In the early 2020s, AI models were mostly reactive tools.
You give them a prompt, they produce text, that was it.
Now we're seeing multimodal systems, models that can understand, this is crazy.
I don't need, I could, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm just gonna go in the 11 labs and I'm gonna be like, I'm Tim Poole, here's my voice, hit me, and then I'm gonna take this and I'm gonna be like, write a 20-minute long script.
And then I'm gonna, here's, here's the issue.
There are channels already doing this.
They'll generate 40-minute long news reports.
They'll take like 10 news articles, load them into an AI and say, convert these stories into a single news podcast.
Then they'll do one of these fake person generators and they'll get like a young looking woman and she'll just be sitting there and it looks like she's in a bedroom and she'll be saying like, hey guys, so recently Mexico announced that they were going to resist any effort from the Trump administration and then they uploaded these videos get like 800 views.
That's nothing, but they're uploading tens of thousands of them per week and they're getting an estimated like I there was one video announce I saw someone posted the back end on their channel is 150k and they did because they were trying to market their service saying I can teach you how to make this money off YouTube.
The problem is just like with X, it means all of the YouTubers revenue is dropping dramatically.
This is going to result in a world where only Ubiquiti sponsors are going to make money.
So let me explain.
So for us, for us on Timcast.rl, a large portion of the money we make comes from programmatic advertising.
This is an advertiser goes on Google Ads, says, I want to run an ad.
Google then says, let's put this ad on a series of videos.
If these people are spam blasting massive amounts of videos, the ad dollars going into Google will always be around the same amount.
It probably grows a little bit as the market's shifting.
But with this exponential increase in AI content, the share is being spread out.
So where we used to make X amount of dollars, we are now going to make X minus 20% because the share is being divvied up.
So it's like instead of making $200 a spot, you make $1,200 times.
Well, no, no, no.
My point is, if I make a video that gets 250,000 views, it'll probably get about $1,500 to $2,000.
Now that the way it used to be was that would probably be $5,000.
But because there's so much competition, an advertiser's video is going to appear on 10 times more videos.
The share of money in the pool to go out is diminished.
On X, they had this problem.
When X first launched payments, we were swimming in dough.
It was amazing.
I had one period where I got like 13 grand in two weeks.
Wow.
Just for me tweeting stupid things.
You don't tweet a lot.
I don't tweet a lot.
And sometimes I tweet stupid things.
And then what happened?
Not just something.
Indians got on X, created a bunch of accounts, paid for verification, and then started mass replying to each other.
They would say, good day, good day, good day.
How are you?
I'm good.
And you, I'm fine.
And the replies are what generates revenue.
All of a sudden, people noticed their payments were dropping dramatically.
People then found this network, complained to X, and said, these are fake accounts, not making real content or engagement, and they're pulling money out of the pool for actual creators.
X said, okay, we're going to fix this.
The problem we have right now, YouTube needs to ban AI generated content like this.
There are places where it's good.
Like there's that YouTube channel, shout out to Skybrows, who made that Elon Musk song.
That's great work.
He used AI video and AI music to make a great music video, and that's good, and he deserves to get paid for that.
But taking news articles, AI generating a 40-minute news podcast, and then spam blasting them on X, that should be banned.
Got to be banned.
And one of the other things that I've thought of as well, and I've tweeted this a few times, is, look, X is a global site, of course, but not all companies are global.
And obviously, consumers are not global, right?
Customers are not global.
Customers are a physical person who lives in a physical place.
So wouldn't it make sense then that if you're an advertiser, if you're trying to target a certain market, you're not trying and you don't want your ad going to different countries.
You could choose, obviously, where you want your ad to run.
But then also, also, that if your traffic is from another country, then shouldn't the advertisers, advertising go out at the rate of the market rate in that country versus your own country?
I want to pull up this video.
My friends, have you seen the new movie, Brad Pitt?
I just watched this the other day.
It was so good.
It's so good.
It's about Brad Pitt.
He's friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
Here's the movie.
You killed Jeffrey Epstein, you animal!
He was a good man!
He knew too much about our Russia operations.
He had to die, and now you die too.
Okay, Brad Pitt is not friends with Epstein, as far as I know, but this is nuts.
This video is absolutely crazy.
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I mean, I'm going to play it again.
What's even crazier about it is that the script doesn't make any sense.
Like the city's destroyed or whatever.
Like there's people everywhere.
The Russia up, like, like, why would that be?
You could write a little better than this.
I noticed Tom Cruise's height is oscillating.
Sometimes he's like, how did they make it?
But that's also accurate because it does the same thing in real movies.
Bro, have you seen the video of the old Indian guy, the old bald Indian guy saying, my wife thinks I'm a successful businessman, but I actually use AI to make an OnlyFan with 1.3 million?
And he's in a suit and he's going like this.
And then it shows the AI rendered video of a young girl in a skirt dancing.
That's beastly.
It's not a filter.
It's called replacement AI.
So here's the crazy thing.
Do you even need that filter anymore?
Like, I feel like you can, at this point, probably just type in a prompt and get whatever you want.
There's a rendering time involved.
So I made a video.
So did you see the video of the guy in his car screaming, so I took that and then I took a picture of Adam Johnson, the lectern guy, and I made him doing it.
And it was hilarious.
I didn't post it.
I just thought it was funny.
But again, for all you know, that, you know, these young Gen Z guys, those girls they're gooning to, are guys.
Right.
That's dude, man.
That's a dude.
What if my girlfriend is actually an old Indian guy?
We got to show this one.
We got to show this one, guys.
Wait, this one's not AI.
Hold on.
I thought we were talking about AI.
Oh, yeah.
I remember when this happened.
See, but here's the important thing about this.
People are not going to know what's real.
Okay, 20 years from now, some little kid's going to be like, this never happened?
Go to sleep.
and this is not AI I remember December 14th, 91.
I was watching.
Here, look at this.
Look at this.
Premium live event championship press conference.
Like, it's getting text right.
The crazy thing is, again, what happens in 20 years?
That's actually incorrect, though, because they were not called premium live events in the 90s.
They were called pay-per-views.
Well, but sure, but the point is.
Yeah, yeah.
There's going to be a kid who's born five years from now.
He's going to be 15 years old, and he's going to see this video.
And it's not just this one video.
There's going to be millions of them.
He's going to be like, I don't know which of these is real.
There's going to be no history anymore.
They're going to be like the Ninja Turtles, weren't they from the 90s?
Yes, but they never did WWF.
Well, bro, I got a video of it.
So it's literally the kid being like, nothing is real.
Everything's fake.
Tim, what if they're not rendering things from AI?
What if they're actually just going into different versions of the past alternate pasts and bringing the videos forward?
Well, what I said was, how would you know?
If energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed, then when we imagine in our minds a story, we are not imagining, we're actually seeing into an alternate reality.
The energy already exists.
We can't create it.
The patterns of those systems already exist.
So this Goku versus Monkey D. Luffy actually happened in some alternate reality with his mushy fist.
Here's the crazy thing.
Let me pull up something else.
That's that one's seed dance, right?
Check this out.
Guys, this is Google Genie.
Okay.
I typed in downtown Minneapolis in winter during a protest, and the character is an ice agent wielding a Boken.
We already did make one version of this.
Let's just try it again and see what happens.
Google Genie is a third-person video game generator.
You're allowed to play it for about 60 seconds, but you can only jump.
You can walk, run, or jump.
I will tell you this.
The capabilities they have behind the scenes are probably a thousand fold.
Google probably can already behind the scenes render GTA 6.
They can probably literally go into it and just say, make GTA 6.
Look at this.
Let's go.
And there's this, do you have like the paid version or is this just.
It's only for the highest tier of people who pay.
Okay.
Abolish ice.
But even still.
And this is the worst thing.
Wait, he got the sign stuck to him.
He stole his sign.
Sign thief.
And the guy just vanished.
He Thanos snapped away the protester.
But thinking that you think about it, though, think about the amount of people and time it would take just a couple of years ago to make something like this.
All right.
We're going to do this in real time.
What should we make?
I don't know.
Make RoboCop.
Consider copyright infringement.
Oh, yeah.
RoboCop might work.
But from, okay, where?
Okay, RoboCop.
Fighting Williams.
Wait, we need to do Robo Stories.
I want it at the Super Bowl.
That's probably going to get copyright infringement blocked.
At a football game.
I just did Jurassic Park character RoboCop.
The weird thing.
Jurassic Park isn't copyright.
That's what I was going to say.
The weird thing is some things are blocked and some aren't.
I put Goku in Springfield.
Yeah.
And he was running around and Bart Simpson.
Here we go.
Look at this.
Oh, there's Springfield.
Look at that.
Oh, my gosh.
How long did that take?
10 seconds?
I blinked.
Additional 10 seconds to render the world.
It might still kick us back.
We're halfway there.
I want him fighting cyborg dinosaurs too, by the way.
You could do this.
Robocop as well.
RoboDinos.
Look at this.
Oh, my gosh.
Can you jump?
Look at that.
Yep.
Look at this, dude.
There's the gun.
Wow.
RoboCop and Dream.
You get Robocop.
Can you go through the gate?
Of course.
RoboCop deporting illegals.
That'd be good.
We could use them, honestly.
Robo Bo V. So they give you 60 seconds in whatever rendered world you get, and then you can save the video of the gameplay.
Now, I can tell you this.
They could, if they wanted to, give us the ability to add fighting and a whole bunch of other mechanisms.
The reason I know is because not only can you make a game where you're Robocop, you can also make driving games, you can make flying games, and I rendered Planet Namek with the character Goku.
That's from Dragon Ball Z.
And I had Goku running around and he jumped.
I then accidentally pressed spacebar again, and Goku did a like, yeah, not his face.
He almost started flying, and it showed a burst of energy come out of Goku as if it could have done it, but then it stopped him, froze, and then aired.
I was like, I can't do this.
All right, so what should we do next?
Darth Vader fighting Care Bears.
Oh, it's death.
You can't do that.
No?
Because we're not fighting.
We're not telling stories.
We're choosing an environment and a character to put him in.
So we can try Darth Vader, but I bet it's going to say screw off.
Darth Vader in Care Bear Land.
What was their place called?
I forget.
I have no idea.
I don't remember.
I have a feeling Darth Vader is way.
There was a name for it.
Was it Dreamland or something like that?
Darth Vader, I have a feeling it's going to be like nice try, bro.
Darth Vader.
I tried Mickey Mouse.
It didn't work.
Homer Simpson worked.
Darth Vader outside the federal building in Portland.
It said no, Darth Vader.
No.
No, Darth Vader.
It was in Care a lot.
Care a lot?
Care a lot?
Care a lot.
Oh, God.
It's like a play on Camelot.
I did the Death Star.
Let's do King Arthur.
King Arthur.
The Death Star worked.
I did.
What did I do?
I think I did like Han Sol on the Death Star, and it worked.
Yeah.
Wild.
So we could actually, what you're saying is we could actually use this to do the one thing that Disney would never do.
Fix Star Wars.
Put all of the original characters back together.
Okay, that's not quite right.
Once.
No, no.
He's on a destroyer staring at the Death Star.
I mean, it's pretty close.
You know?
Pretty close.
He's on his way to the stage.
Star Destroyer.
He's on his way.
He's on his way.
No, no.
Third cardio, third-party content.
Not doing it.
Gosh.
I have an idea.
I have an idea.
Let's try the Holy Land.
What year do we want to do?
800 BC or 800 AD or Crusades.
Yeah, what year is 1200 AD?
Sure, 1200.
1200 AD.
And Templar Knight.
I think it was someone punched in the coordinates of the crucifixion and they put the coordinates in.
What year was it?
Was it 33 AD?
Or was it 38?
The first year it was 1096, but 1096.
Thank you.
Technically, it would be 33, but some people say the Bible is like, or the dates are slightly off.
They put it in with the coordinates.
It's 29 AD.
And it had a person walking around with the crucifixion.
There you go.
It rounded out.
Wow.
Let's see if it does.
I think it makes me think of it.
It's just Dearborn.
It looks like Assassin's Creed.
Right?
Yeah, it is.
We do a good idea.
I Templar and a bunch of Fallout stuff at Dearborn, Michigan.
Templar and Dearborn.
That'd be awesome.
There we go.
Wait, did you tell?
Did you write, put him on a horse?
No.
Look at that.
The horse jumps.
Look at that.
Now it's trotting.
Dude, this is nuts.
Just GWAT.
Video games are done, bro.
Did you guys see the game Relooted?
Did y'all see Relooted?
What's that?
Yes.
It's the game where you play black people stealing stuff.
Oh.
What?
I'm not kidding.
It's about in the future, a group of black people are angry that white people stole their artifacts, so they go on a heist to steal it all from museums.
It had 57 players at peak on today's launch.
So my point is, everyone's been complaining about how bad video games are.
The video game industry has cooked.
Well, here you go.
And they had this original idea, a game where black people steal.
Yeah.
Wow.
You've really blown.
I can't imagine something like that.
But the funny thing is, they thought they were being not racist by making it.
It's like, guys.
It was stealing back artifacts or they were proposal.
No, no, it's not.
That's technically what they said, but they mentioned in the story it's private collections.
Oh, meaning it's not government-held museum stuff.
They were people who legitimately bought something and they were stealing it from them, too.
Stealing it from them.
Nice.
Okay, so Tate has a request.
Dearborn, Michigan, and Templar Knight.
That's what you wanted?
Yeah, I think this could be good.
I don't think Gemini has the emotional intelligence to understand why it should not render this, but it's going to be like, I don't see anything wrong with it.
Watch it says no.
That'd be hilarious.
There is nothing wrong with it.
It's very much needed.
I think it's more effective.
Put him on a horse is what's interesting.
I just checked.
I didn't say they'd do that.
Yeah, that's pretty.
You could put the horses flying, and then you can fly around.
It's wild.
Pegasus.
Pegasus.
All right.
Blackhawk down, but Minneapolis.
That could be all the smallies.
That's what I was saying.
Behind enemy lines.
You're going to see indie movies or indie games, in movies.
You're going to see.
This was my prediction.
Here we go.
I got it.
Do they have Arabic script on the front?
No, they don't.
Perfect.
That's just the AI script.
My prediction.
My prediction is that video games and movies are going to be like following someone on X. You're going to be like, oh, bro, Tate makes the best games.
No, look.
That's Arabic, right?
That's Arabic, dude.
Oh, that's a point of view perfect.
Trump third term.
Trump III.
We jump.
We finally make it.
I don't like it when he's walking because they usually don't jump if they do.
Look how scared the locals are.
They know it's game.
Sometimes the controls don't work perfectly.
Is that someone in a burqa?
Like straight ahead?
It might be.
Let's go.
It's the faces are always really weird, though.
Yeah, but the helmet makes sense.
Look, it's full face.
So that's Arabic.
That's AI Arabic.
Clearly Arabic.
Oh, look at this.
Dude, look at the lights red and green at the same time.
Ice budget's crazy.
I don't know if this is this good.
The ice.
Yeah, they're sending out Templar Knights to the bottom.
Steven Miller.
Steven Miller.
Whoa, whoa, who was this?
The sword is probably cheaper than all the flashbangs and bears.
We were a little heavy-handed on the recipes.
You know what?
Let's try this.
What do you need the aluminum for?
Let's try one more thing before we kill the next time.
It probably won't let me do this.
Dearborn Dearbron.
The Bron.
Dearborn Michigan.
Let's see.
Major Fire Damage.
Templar Knight running.
Let's see if that one works.
Whenever I try to make post-apocalyptic scenes or whatever, it just always says no.
Really?
Yeah, it's the weirdest thing.
Because I was trying to render Fallout.
I did Simpsons.
I said, take the original.
I said the original Legend of Zeldon NES in 3D with Link.
And it made it.
And it's not like a one-for-one of the map, but it looks like all of the same.
So that didn't trigger copyright, though.
So it's kind of hit or miss.
Looks like this one worked.
Destroyed.
Let's go.
You got to screenshot that one.
Pretty realistic.
Pretty realistic.
Welcome to Dearborn.
Welcome to Dearborn.
They've even blown up their own sign.
My presumption was the Templar Knight did it.
Oh, that's interesting.
Look at this.
He's an EOD.
He's scared.
Yo, give me a jump.
Nah, he won't jump.
This is why you trust the plan, everyone.
Does Dearborn Michigan look like this?
Firebomb Dearborn?
Yes.
This is a very glossy.
Yo, this is Rose Isley.
This is the Kenosha edition.
Kenosha.
Bro, should I do it?
No.
We're going to save that one for the after show.
That's in the after show.
Oh, man.
Are you retcon?
No, no.
Well, I mean, that's just, that's just a replay.
Yo, look at this.
We'll go down.
And then once it's done, you can save the video, which is higher res.
You got to save this.
Where's all the locals?
I think he did.
This is after he's finished.
He's worked the fire.
What do you mean?
He's trying to save them.
This is after he's completed the operation.
This is the, yeah, this is the you already won the game version.
The remigration success.
Yeah.
Well, it's act three of the game.
Yeah, yeah.
After the nuclear bomb was dropped.
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That's right.
Yeah.
All right.
You'd have it broken up into acts.
So then it'll freeze, and then it gives you the option to download it.
Wow, amazing.
So you can then, I don't know what that is.
That's so funny that the sign was perfect.
And then there's a yeah, welcome to the blesser.
But you're still going to, you know what, though?
You're still, think of it, though.
You, you know what you still need the individual for is for that creative spark at the beginning.
Because I don't, I, I, it doesn't know why a Templar in Dearborn is interesting and going to be, but it doesn't know that why there would there be a market for that.
Why would people care about that?
So you still, right, you still need an trouble?
I know, right?
Well, no, here's you're going to get in trouble for that.
No, but here's, of course, like some leftists going to be like, keep going.
But here's a brown.
Bro, you made Media Matters.
Congratulations.
Yeah, a lot.
Here's what I'm thinking of.
It's like, have you guys seen the new Iron Lung and that whole thing?
Iron Lung?
Yeah, the new, it's that new movie that's out right now.
It's like Markiplier, the guy put it all in.
Oh, oh, yes, yes, yes.
He beat the studios.
He beat the majority.
He beat the studios, literally made it himself, and it's based off an indie game.
But even then, it's the creativity of what went into that game.
And it's, you know, this poke again, maybe think of it as how it's post-apocalyptic.
And, you know, but it's in space, obviously.
But he has to go.
He has to go.
I haven't played the game, but I watched the movie.
It was great.
And he has to explore this moon.
And he can only support Explore it in a submersible because the entire moon is covered in liquid.
But it turns out that it's not water.
It's blood.
Blood-filled ocean.
It's an ocean of blood.
And then the corporate press was just like, it never happened.
They ignored him.
Totally ignored it.
Wasn't a big deal.
He fronted all the money for it.
He stars in it himself.
Does a great job, by the way.
And I think it's made like $20 million.
Gross.
$37.2 million.
Oh, my gosh.
It's a 3 million production budget.
You fused 880,000 gallons of fake blood, making the biggest, the bloodiest movie ever filmed.
And, you know, when we put out a bunch of songs, and every time we do, for some reason, they gave us a fake reason why they weren't going to track it.
They weren't going to put it on Billboard.
And it's all political.
When we did a press release for one of our song releases, we got back emails from these major newspapers, like the press release saying, you know, Tim Poole released a song with Pete Parada.
The song is titled This.
They replied back with Go F Yourself, stuff like that.
That is what is wrong with these people.
I'll tell you that in putting together the halftime show, we ran up against this as well.
And there were times where we went up for venues or certain times.
And, oh, we're not going to work with you because you're turning point or, you know, you have to imagine people are, you know, don't want to go up against the NFL, don't want to go.
Did you see the fake story they ran right before the halftime show?
Which one?
So a story ran that said Kid Rock artists drop out.
Wait, no, I did see this.
Yes.
Yeah.
This came across my radar.
And I'm looking at it going, well, I don't want to respond to this, but he's obviously not dropped out because he's the star of this story went up just before the Super Bowl.
Kid Rock Festival cancels several tour dates after artists drop out.
One band says it wants to unite, not divide.
And so I'm at MGM on the day before the Super Bowl.
And I said, someone brought up Bad Bunny, and I sit at a poker table.
And then I asked everybody, I was like, you guys excited for this?
Bro, everybody was laughing.
They were like, no.
And I was like, yeah, Turning Point's going to do that Kid Rock show.
And the dealer goes, oh, but everyone dropped out of that.
And I was like, no, they didn't.
And he was like, yeah, I read that.
Everybody dropped out.
And I was like, I think you're thinking of something different because they're doing their show like tomorrow.
And then he was like, oh, I don't know.
This is what they do.
It's a disorder.
They run the story to tell people there's no show anymore.
And this is a separate festival.
Yep.
It's a separate festival.
It's a separate thing, which, and by the way, again, though, this is how the industry was working to chop block us at every turn, working to, you know, oh, we're not going to give you these rights.
We're not going to give you those rights.
You can't broadcast on this song on X. You can't do this.
You can't do that.
And then suddenly they put pressure on, okay, Kid Rock thinks he's going to go up against the Super Bowl halftime show.
Well, we're going to put pressure on bands to cancel his tour.
We're going to cancel the dates.
We're going to cancel the festival.
Anything they could.
And in despite of that, we still get 40, 50 million.
Do you have the video?
So there's a bunch of videos from the Super Bowl of the crowd, but do you have the actual video of the show?
Did you post it on your X?
So there's a bunch of videos we all have seen.
I don't think I actually have posted the video on X. You know why?
This is the craziest thing.
So, okay, there's a bunch of videos where people during the show filmed the crowd and the crowd's not dancing.
That is not the most interesting video.
Someone filmed the actual set of the halftime show and you can't see anything because the whole center of the field is stalks of sugarcane.
I've seen this, yeah.
And you can't see anybody inside doing anything.
So it actually reminded me of the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park, that video.
Because you just see like the rustling of the tall grass.
And so you're sitting there, you're looking for a show because kind of swaying a little bit.
When you look at our halftime show, we went for that traditional spectacle.
Whereas you could enjoy on TV or live.
Whereas theirs, you could only live.
Check this out.
Check this out.
This is the...
I don't need to hear that.
So the people sitting in the stands can't actually see anything going on.
Yeah, they see the Velociraptors.
And so people are like, it was a great show.
It was a tremendous success.
And I'm like, bro, no, it wasn't.
This was for TV, not for, look at this.
You can't see anything.
This is nuts, man.
You know what's really?
Oh, it's so annoying.
I don't want to hear this guy.
The most annoying thing about this is the media keep saying it was a record-breaking thing, 135 million views, smashing success.
And I'm like, just stop.
I can't stand the pravda.
The party is stronger than ever.
It's perfect.
We are great.
And then everybody else is watching Turning Point.
Look, Clay Travis came out and, you know, I trust him when it comes to sports reporting.
That's how he cut his teeth, Outkick.
He knows this stuff.
He said this was the largest drop-off they've had for a halftime show in Supervisory.
50%, 40% or 50%.
And he also pointed out that typically the halftime shows get a bump because people tune in because they want to see the show.
Think Michael Jackson in 93.
Listen, listen, I didn't see him because of his stardom.
When they had Eminem and who was at Eminem and Snoop and Dre, it was like 2022 or whatever.
I don't watch football.
I know very little about football.
We had a Super Bowl party.
We were eating nachos.
Here's what you do.
You put cream cheese, chili, and then ched around top.
That's a secret recipe or mel chili.
You bake it.
It's the best football dip ever.
And then when the halftime show came on, we all watched the TV.
The halftime show is what everybody attaches to.
Fact, they lost half their viewers when it happened.
But here's, here's actually something.
Well, keep in mind, though and this is something where, like so, when people are comparing the numbers, that and Tim, I know you understand this that they're actually comparing apples to oranges, because our views on youtube and our views from our cable partners and over the top and fast networks, etc.
Those are devices, whereas Nielsen is completely different right, Nielsen uses a formula where they assume, and and and I I kind of agree with this they say, well, nobody really watches the Super Bowl by themselves.
It's typically at a party or something, and so what they do is they take the household number and they times it by three, yep where.
So, when you're reading Nielsen ratings, it says that whereas what?
And then they'll say, and turning point got 20 million views on their youtube channel.
It's like well, first of all, we had more than one stream up and, second of all, and there are parties and there are bars.
Yeah, those were parties, those were bars, that were anyone with the youtube tv set, I mean the one I was at, we had like 30.
This is over there with my wife.
This has been a long-standing challenge for us on Timcast IRL, because right now we have let's see, between Youtube and Rumble, we have about 45 uh.
We have 43 44 000 concurrent stream uh viewers, the.
The issue is when we sell against this and we say like oh, you know, the show is going to get 600, 700 000 uh views.
There's a difference between a show like ours, which is live 8 to 11 p.m every day, and a vod which is watched on mobile.
About half our viewers watch on tvs, and so one thing I noticed very early on was that it seemed disproportionate the amount of people who knew about the show and talked to me, and I didn't understand.
Until we actually figured out, talking with some industry execs who said oh, it's because you're a tv show.
Timcast Irl is watched on a large lot of televisions right yeah, there's four or five people in that room and I went, oh, we had advertisers right, so we had advertisers say to us we heard this for like two years, you, you overperform.
You have 600 000, 700 000 viewers.
We'll buy an ad from you and it performs as though it's a million.
We love advertising on your show and we sell ads like crazy.
The reality is we're underselling because the metrics used online are seemingly a device, even if it's actually multiple people.
So here's the.
Here's a challenge for you Jack, and here's what you guys should say.
You guys should say you had 90 million views.
I'm gonna, i'm gonna say right now, 30 million.
Then you would times it by three because the halftime show was played on bars, on televisions.
It was not, and it's a silly thing to assume.
In fact, here's what you really should do, go into your, go into the channel's metrics and look how many mobile devices and how many tvs and for every tv, do the Nielsen analysis.
So if you guys have 40 tvs, call that you got 45 million.
Let's say, 20 times three is 60.
That puts you at 85 million views for the Tp Usa halftime show.
Uh people yeah right right viewers, this is my point.
So whenever you read these articles and they're comparing the numbers, you're comparing apples to oranges because Nielsen uses the times three.
Let me, let me just throw this to you, because we mentioned this on the show When it happened or the day after, which advertiser out there, which would you prefer?
I can hold up a sign that someone will walk past, or I can hold up a sign to a group of people who are looking to come and stare at the sign.
You want the engaged.
You want the engaged.
The turning point halftime show was people saying, I'd like to come find this.
The Super Bowl halftime show was people who had the TV on in the background.
Right.
So it's not only apples to oranges.
You see that video?
It's totally different metrics.
Something was going.
This guy's going viral because he had a Super Bowl party and he put on the 2014 Super Bowl.
And nobody noticed the entire time.
There's a lot of people that just tune in for the halftime show.
There's a lot of people that just tune in just to watch the commercials.
Not this year.
Well, those are the most pathetic people, like broken by a lot of people.
Well, here's something interesting as well, because I didn't really watch a lot of the commercials, but one of the ones that I did catch was, and I guess there's been a series of these, Duncan with like Ben Affleck.
And this is like the third year that he's done an iteration of this.
So did you notice that they brought back a lot of the 90s sitcom characters for this one?
Oh, really?
So like Jason Alexander comes in from Seinfeld.
And I think I want to say they had David Schwimmer from Friends came in and Jennifer Andiston.
Still alive?
It was maybe it was Matt LeBlanc, the Joey.
And point being is they were going for that 90s nostalgia in this one piece.
But here's the twist, right?
So you're going for that, that 30 to 44 age demo that's out there, like your 80s, early 90s kids.
But what's amazing is who's Kid Rock's key demo is the people in that same age range.
No, certainly not Ben Bunny.
Bad Bunny's demo was, because that was globalist, right?
But the reason they had, so just to finish my point, we had Kid Rock.
So we were not only did we get the views that we got, but we were also cutting into that key demo that they were looking for, which it wasn't something that we really intended to do.
But, you know, thinking about it now, because we're talking ratings, we're talking numbers, we're talking all this stuff, you know, you get the number two YouTube live stream of all time.
And suddenly we're realizing that, wait a minute, I bet you if we broke that out by age, we probably got that key key advertising demo that they wanted, the disposable income, the elder millennials, centennials, Gen Y. That's who they were going for.
And we stole a lot of those.
Meanwhile, Bad Bunny, you know, they say he's the number one global streamer.
Yeah, but that's because he's got a targeted audience in the Spanish speaking world.
And there are a lot of allegations of autoplay.
No, no, there certainly are.
That's what it is.
When I go on my Tesla and I say like top music, yo, there are people on there who are, you know what, I'll put it like this.
Without disparaging a particular band, I'm not going to say their name.
I was hanging out at MGM and a song comes on.
This song on YouTube has like 1.3 million views and it's been out for a few years.
And I'm just thinking to myself, why is this song playing in a casino with 50,000 people in it?
Nobody knows what the song is and it's not a good song.
It's obvious the label just said, we want this on rotation.
Oh, well, like in the buying, the people can buy the streams.
And I remember like a few years ago, my Spotify got hacked and I was still logged in and I would change a song and it would autoplay.
I won't say which artist it was, but it's like a rapper that had accusations of buying his streams.
It would keep going back to the song he had just released over and over again.
And then I found like it showed where the active logins were and it was in Russia.
So it's like hacked.
Russians.
Yeah.
And then they were making a bot farm accounts.
We were at this, we were out the other night, you know, the night before the halftime show.
And I was like, I was like, oh, let's, and it was one of those places that has the touch tunes, like the jukebox.
I'm a touch tunes warrior.
And I was like, and I was like, oh, let's get in there.
Oh, it was getting hot.
It was getting hot that night.
Dude, it gets like you're in the trees.
It gets heated.
You're absolutely in it.
It's a trench warfare.
Yeah, we had a couple people that were, I was like, uh-uh, uh-uh.
I know.
The fast credits or whatever.
Yeah, but then other people put their fast credits ahead of you and it was arms race.
It was a cold war.
It basically was.
And what you do.
Oh, go ahead.
But before I went on my app, I actually just went over to the machine, and you know, whose face was right there staring at me was Bad Bunny.
Of course.
And I was like, wait, and then his album was the first thing that popped up was Bad Bunny.
I'm like, well, I want to do Ball at the Ball by Kid Rock.
And it was so hard to search for it and dig through.
And there were certain, I was just like, then I just got randomly looking for different bands.
And it's like, these are big bands who have huge followings, not even there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even if you cut through all like the politics surrounding Bad Bunny, like it's just very nefarious because the NFL, Rock Nation, when they're choosing Bad Bunny to be the half-season Jay-Z, who runs Rock Nation.
So he controls what makes it so nefarious is the halftime show is meant to just be an entertaining product for the audience at home.
The reason they select Bad Bunny is because the NFL has been actively trying to expand into Latin America.
That's why they play games in Mexico City.
That's why they play games in Brazil.
This is what I was getting at.
So they're like, it's globalists.
Yeah, so that's why they're just treating the audience as an opportunity to expand a brand.
It's nefarious.
I got a question.
Who's Luke Bryan?
He's a country.
Are we okay with that?
Yeah.
Okay, so who's Jamie Johnson?
Don't know.
He's a country.
It's folk, right?
Is that okay?
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All right.
Three doors down.
I'm okay with that.
So I have a Touch Tunes app, and you can, from anywhere, play music anywhere.
Yeah, that's right.
So I say we go to LA right now and we teach these people a lesson.
Put on some Kid Rock.
Ram it down their throat.
Wait, wait, do they have, do they have Tim?
Do they have any locations in Puerto Rico?
Me and my friends, we go to like very lib-coded bars.
I don't think it lets you do anything that's not near you.
We would go to very leg-coated bars in Brooklyn.
Just ram Morrissey down their throats.
Yeah, it's only letting me do things that are directly around you with his Notre Dame song.
But I'll tell you what, let's see, Waffle House.
Waffle House in Inwood.
You have touch tunes at Waffle House?
Yeah, bro.
Dude, do you?
Waffle House is where it's at.
Well, I know it's an outside.
It's like, I didn't know they had such out there.
The one I go to local doesn't have one.
You need a soundtrack for the violence.
Yeah, it's a fight music.
Bring stuff by Lip Biscuit.
You know what?
No, I changed my mind.
I figured it out.
I'm going to start hitting up all of these touch tunes to make it play Bad Bunny so people get angry and start complaining about it.
Hate it.
Creating hate for Bad Bunny.
But to your point, Jack, it is about the globalism, but more than that, it was about subverting, I think, something that is truly American, right?
Like he was speaking in Spanish.
Most of your football fans don't speak Spanish.
I mean, I understand that there's a lot of people that do speak Spanish in the U.S., but most of the guys that are watching football, they don't speak Spanish.
15% of the country.
Yeah, it's not a huge percentage.
The flags that he was carrying, the Puerto Rican flag with the light blue, that's the revolutionary Puerto Rican flag.
That was about separating himself from America.
When he was saying, oh, we're all America.
All of that stuff was implying that North and South America are the real America.
It was all some inversion.
This is all communist BS.
This is open borders.
This is globalism.
This is, you know, everyone.
It was a migrant caravan marching across the border.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they had flags.
If you look at the flags that were at the front, those are all the comments.
And there were so many conservatives saying that, oh, it wasn't political at all.
I'm looking at it.
I'm like, there are foreign flags marching and saying we are.
There was a wedding.
It was not.
There's not only people saying conservatives saying that, but Jacobin and DSA were saying the truth.
They were saying, look, this is a great political situation.
This is why I actually appreciate, in a sense, Jacobin and DSA because they're just honest.
Yeah.
Like they want that, like, most of the people will lie to you and they'll lie to you.
Whereas at least the Jacobin guys are like, no, we are communists.
We are here to destroy you.
We want a revolution in your country.
That's what we're doing.
I have an ongoing subscription to Jacobin Magazine.
Wow.
Well, I think it's important to know what people think.
100%.
But I will say this too.
Jacobin has been on the right side of some issues.
We've discussed quite a bit.
They're communists.
I mean, they're super far left.
But there have been issues of like government overreach that they've been on the right side of the world.
Famously, they endorsed a policy that's actually very right-wing, which is when New York City passed a bill that every establishment has to take cash, no questions asked.
It's a really right-wing policy because that was at the same time when Beto O'Rourke was like, Chase should deny purchases for AR-15s.
And they're saying, well, we don't want banking controlling your purchases.
New York City, they pass a bill tending for it to help homeless people buy stuff or whatever, but it's actually just a really right-wing policy.
Well, look, when I came up there, and I, you know, I had no notes.
I had no like direction.
You know, we were, again, we just, we threw this thing together in three months and really less than that because we had AmFest and then Christmas and New Year's, really more like two months.
And we had cast a wide net early on, you know, and then you have to drill down on venues and artists.
And then we had so many artists who said they would do it.
But then when it came to those rights, didn't work out.
And, you know, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to point fingers, but, you know, I think we all know who didn't want a competitive halftime show.
I'll just leave it at that.
And I realized, though, that the way to win this is just make it completely non-political.
No politics.
Don't go up there and be trolling.
Don't go up there and like talk about Trump or anything like that.
Like a good product.
Just make a good product.
It's called the English-speaking halftime show.
All American.
All-American.
They're going to cast it as a political thing anyways.
The left was casting the TPUSA thing as they were saying that it's political, that it was, oh, these guys are all political and stuff.
It doesn't matter what you're saying.
It's just that the fact that it's people that are that are comfortable playing what is perceived as a right-wing event, then it's automatically, it's political and it's blah, blah, blah.
Even though the Bad Bunny one is the one that actually had all the subversion in it, right?
All of the states last year with Kendrick Lamar.
But ultimately, I will say it's already been done.
In another sense, though, in like a higher sense, it is political, right?
It's political because the left in this country has separated from the traditional idea of American patriotism.
And so patriotism didn't used to be political.
It is now.
And that's what made it just made it the perfect storm where we wrote in there and said, we are going to do it this way.
We're going to have this.
We're going to have Kid Rock, who's a super famous artist that really, that's what made this break containment.
We broke containment where normies, people at bars, Uber drivers, whatever you call it, they're all saying, oh, the Kid Rock halftime show, the American halftime show.
That's the one we watched.
It's a whoa.
How come you didn't get Creed?
And that was on tour in Europe.
Alter Bridge was on tour in Europe, and they were literally in Spain.
You're getting him next year for sure.
We're going to see.
We're going to see what we do.
I will be disappointed.
Just as long as you don't have front row boxers, throw it on stage.
No, again, though, I got a picture for you.
But what I'm saying, though, is here's the thing is like when it comes to any one artist, and this is what it was a huge learning curve for me on so much of this.
I should feel like I should have called you to explain how all the rights work to everybody.
It's not even up to the artists.
Of course.
It's about the people who own the rights to the song.
So it's like, it's like, what if we, what if we had gotten, well, I'll just say Kid Rock.
So it's like Kid Rock comes on.
He says he wants to come, but then he doesn't own the rights to ball with the ball because Universal does.
And then what if Universal says, oh, you can't play ball with the ball at turning point?
I got a pitch for you.
And it's like, what do you do then?
I think you guys should actually do a festival next year.
And the headline show should be the halftime, but there can be stuff before and after.
That was my, look, the brainstorming, that was one of the ideas that I had had early on.
We wanted to do it outside.
We wanted to do it with a huge audience.
It worked out the way that it did this time because we had a limited time.
That's something that we're actively looking at.
By the way, though, I think I already do have the venue.
And remains will play.
And I can announce the venue tonight, actually, because, and I'll explain why, because we were looking at YouTube live streams over the years and the record.
Tim, do you know what the number one YouTube live stream of all time was?
Or currently is?
Well, YouTube live stream, that's the Moonlander, right?
Is the Indian Moonlander, the Indian Moonlander.
So, you know, you're going up against a subcontinent.
What is it?
1.6, 1.7 billion.
You know, a billion people.
So what I've done, so what I've done is no, no, we're doing it on the moon.
Modi's going to be there.
Modi's going to open it up.
So they all tune.
We go, Stanford.
So he's going to give him, we'll have like Robbie Shankar, you know, his or Anushka Shankar, his daughter, you know, come on out.
It's going to be phenomenal.
She'll be the opener.
And then we get that audience and then boom.
We totally lock it in.
No.
I think if you did a music festival.
I'd love to do a festival.
I think you should do it.
I'd love to do it.
Because right now is the time to start planning for it.
And what do you think?
Like big acreage, multi-stage?
Yeah, I mean, look, if you're going to do Magaroo.
Oh, that'd be sick.
If you do.
Singles Magaroo.
No, but not political.
No politics.
You want to do two stages so that way you can have one stage being set up while the other one's going, whether they be end-to-end or next, both of them will be able to do it.
Actually, actually, that might work better because this was the reason.
And, you know, cats out of the bag because Kid Rock and there was this whole controversy.
Not lip syncing, by the way.
I'm there.
I have video from the set.
I have the masters.
I was watching it.
I posted.
It's fake smears.
He is not lip syncing.
There was an audio sync issue.
Yes.
For a portion of it where you can see it's not just his vocals that are out of sync.
Everything is out of sync.
Like if you actually understand how music works, you could see the drums are out of sync, the guitars are out of sync.
Everything's out of sync in that moment because it was a sync issue.
But I've got backstage footage where you can see on the closed circuit that he's just singing like normal and he's right there.
But so he let the cat out of the bag that the whole, it was pre-recorded.
And when he says pre-recorded, that doesn't mean the music was pre-recorded.
That means the show was pre-recorded.
And the reason we pre-recorded is exactly what Phil just said.
It was about setup time.
Because Bad Bunny, think of it.
And Tim, you just showed that video where they have to come out.
They have to set up the grasslands or whatever.
And that all takes time.
Whereas we were able to do more show in the same amount of time because we were able to eliminate that setup, shut, you know, set up breakdown time because we could just show act to act to act to act.
And Phil, obviously, because you put on shows, I'm sure you noticed that right away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So festival, right?
Multi-day.
But multiple stages could do.
Multiple stages.
Two days?
How many days?
I mean, if you do two days, you're doing all right.
I mean, usually if you're going to do two days, you're going to have two days with two stages.
You're talking about probably 20 to 30 bands would be what you're looking for.
We'll get the Defiant to play.
There you go.
Yeah.
Patriot Fest.
Trying to avoid the political stuff here.
I say you call it halftime fest.
And the point is you just get big bands.
And then the message is not overtly political.
It's just we want a good show from bands that we know and love.
That's it.
But here's the thing, dude.
If you're booking big bands, Kid Rock, you're going to sell tickets.
Yep.
You don't need to make it.
I don't think.
I mean, look, the proof of concept, it's clearly there.
And what we showed, what we showed, and look, and this is where, you know, this is where, you know, I talked about how the gatekeeping definitely affected us early on, but it ended up in a much better spot because now when you see the numbers like that, 40, 50 million all in on a wing and a prayer, and we're slapping this thing together like literally as we go along, that there's a lot of people that want to be associated with that amount of eyeballs.
And when it comes down to it, Tim, it's your point.
It is about money.
It is about advertisers.
It is about people who want to get involved.
No, I'll say, and you notice we didn't run ads.
We didn't run ads.
We kept it a C3.
I mean, we ran, obviously, a Charlie tribute.
We talked about our own org.
That was it.
If you guys launch, if this was to be a for-profit venture based off the views that you got, and next you did a festival based off those views, it's a $100 million operation overnight.
And it's not an exaggeration.
A festival that can pull in those kind of live numbers.
You think about the amount of sponsors each stage is going to be able to get.
You think about, and when I say $100 million, I mean it's a sell.
It's a value of.
So I'm picturing that if you started selling advertisements, first you need to plan how many stages, where's it going to be, what's it going to look like, which includes the live stream with an estimated 40 to 50 million, probably more next year.
You do it exactly on the site of Woodstock 99.
Yeah.
In February, or you're going to do that.
You're going to bring in like $20 or $30 million in paid sponsorships in advance.
And so festivals like this, based off the conventions and stuff that I've seen and the sales that they've pulled in based on their numbers, this is like a $100 million business.
At the end of the day, it's as amazing as all that is.
Look, we have to make sure that whatever we do, we stay true to the mission, right?
And that's Charlie's mission.
Because Charlie, this is one of the things that people don't realize, like this wasn't, like, yeah, I had the tweet and all, but like, it was Charlie's, he always talked about the Super Bowl halftime show.
And he would say, he would say, this isn't family friendly.
You can't show this to little kids.
He would call it, this is debauchery.
He called it sexual anarchy in 2022.
And his whole point was you've got to have something that showcases the type of, we have a clip of him that where he's saying, showcase the type of virtues that you want to see throughout the country.
And so what do we have?
We had rock music, we had country, we had Kid Rock preaching the gospel, by the way.
You know, I think anybody saw that coming, which, man, it was so hard for me to not talk about that because I was sitting backstage balling my eyes out.
No, I'm just going to tell you the truth.
When he hit that song, when he starts singing, when he showed the picture of Charlie, you know, he starts singing about, hey, you know, when your dad asked you to go fishing, why don't you say yes?
Because one day you can't.
Lost it.
Oh, we Kellen helped pull something together.
Looks like we're good to go.
Let me grab this.
Uh-oh.
No, no, no, uh-oh.
No, uh-oh.
Big uh-oh.
No, uh-oh.
It's all.
Oh, Starbase, Texas.
Oh.
Well, because like the halftime show you.
It's the wrong date if you're going to do the Super Bowl next year.
And on the note of like the virtues we want to see from the halftime show, like this doesn't necessarily have to be like we get around and like show like, let's get married and have kids.
Like it should celebrate like American vitality, the essence of America.
Real quick, this is a parody of Bonaru.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that's what he was.
That's what he was saying.
But the point, I mean, my point is, it's like, yeah, you don't have to be so overt like that.
Just celebrate like a vitality.
Yeah, but that's what it is through art, through music.
The last like well, and you, you got what, and I think a lot of people got what Kid Rock was doing with the way that he did the transition of where people were saying, okay, he first, he comes out with ball at the ball.
That's how you met him.
He was Kid Rock.
And he was introduced as Kid Rock.
But then Kid Rock goes away.
And then you get Antonio and Alison Marin, who the phenomenal, the string section comes out.
And then they have this moment showcasing transition, right?
That was the whole point of transition that, like a real transition, not like the crazy one that we talked about.
Then he gets reintroduced.
The same guys who come up, they reintroduce him as Robert Ritchie.
And then Robert Richie comes out and plays till you can't.
And so the point was: you know, it's him saying, look, this was me in the 90s, you know, top of the world.
I've got the girls.
I got the fame.
I got the Jets.
I got everything I want, you know, but I don't have Christ and I'm missing something.
And that's what he finds.
And he's talking about second chances.
And he's obviously, you know, he's singing about himself.
He's thinking about I found Christ.
And so you're looking at his salvation story and he's offering that to so many people.
And I didn't even get that because I had heard, you know, what do you mean we're getting a string section?
And Kid Rock wants a cello.
Like, what?
Oh, God, bro.
Wait, I just had a vision.
And then, and then we put it all together.
It was phenomenal.
We had a vision.
We have to.
I just, I had a vision.
I had a vision of all that remains playing main stage.
And Mike Lindell comes out.
Yeah.
And right at one of like the biggest screams, Mike Lindell makes it.
Bro.
Every baby.
I'd hand over the mic.
I'd hand over the mic for Mike Lindell.
We got to jump to the story.
This is from New York Review.
We need Mike Lindell and drop D. Let's go.
Guys, we got the story.
Irish Guy's Detention Controversy00:04:52
This is from the New York Post.
Gun person in a dress behind Canada's deadliest shooting in decades.
Horrified Tumblr Ridge students reveal.
There's a mass shooting the other day.
A transgender individual killed several people, including himself.
And when the story broke, the media was calling the shooter a woman in a dress, which immediately people said, that's a weird way to describe a woman.
The New York Post then said female in a dress because they changed it because people don't know what the left is trying to convey, or they do, they're lying, whatever.
Then news broke that, in fact, it was a biological male who identified as transgender.
And the story here is, I mean, the tragedy is a tragedy.
It's sad.
But the story here is the cover-up.
Yeah.
What was the police chief who said guns?
Wait, by the way, though, I think it also just broke that he actually killed his own family first.
No, that was in the inner store reporting.
I've been running around.
The police chief said gun person.
Right.
That's what was so crazy because we were trying to stitch together the story this morning, like, okay, what's confirmed, what's not confirmed.
Yeah, and I was, I was kind of like not, but I was traveling.
The whole like British Columbia papers were like talking to the guy's family.
They were like, they're talking to classmates and they're like, yes, this is him.
But the police just refused to actually admit it.
So you had, again, you had like the Western standard.
They're a large paper in British Columbia.
Like, yeah, we talked to the classmates 100% this guy, no doubt about it.
But like, if you're in the media and you're commentating on this, you still can't go all in because you still need like the permission from the local police, but they were just all out on defense.
And even afterwards, where the local police was like, well, we still want to honor this person's like gender identity.
Why do you need to respect a mass shooter?
Right.
Yeah.
Well, because keep in mind that you're in Canada.
This is not a place where you have like the same kind of freedom of speech, the same protections.
You know, we've seen people in the UK go to jail for inciting hatred, inciting discrimination.
And so it could easily be something where they're actually worried about, you know, the media in Canada getting fines for not referring to them by the proper pronouns.
Oh, this is the exact reason why we can't take any part of Canada as a 51st day.
I don't care what you're doing.
I'm still on that.
We are not taking any part of Canada.
No, we conquer and subjugate Phil.
Subjugate.
They strip their rights.
Yes.
There's no voting rights in Canada.
What we do is: here's the plan: after we take all the territory, we treat them as though they're illegal immigrants.
Deport them from their own.
No, Democrat strategy.
They're able to work jobs that we don't want, but they don't get to vote and they don't have access to public accommodation.
That would be exciting.
Some white illegal immigrants.
That would be fun.
Oh, no.
Did you guys see the story with the Irish guy?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That was so dumb.
The left is like, do you know the story?
No.
Irish guy's been here for like 20-something years and he's been locked up in detention.
And he's like, I have a work permit to be here and I'm married to an American citizen.
Okay.
He entered here on the visa waiver program.
And do you know why it's called the visa waiver program?
Well, certain countries don't.
You are waiving your rights.
When you come to the United States under a visa waiver, and they have this in Europe, we do it too when we go over there.
Yeah.
You don't need a visa to enter.
In lieu of applying for a visa, you waive your rights to judicial process in the event you are going to be removed.
90 days in the country.
We can kick you out whenever we want.
That's the trade-off.
If you don't want to deal with that, you can apply for a visa.
They have business.
They have tourist visas.
You can apply.
And then we can challenge those.
So this guy has been here for 20 years.
He entered in 09.
And now he's like, it's torture.
I'm being tortured.
And it's like, you can literally go home anytime.
And the only reason you're still here is because you're refusing to leave.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We don't like want him here.
Like, you can go to Ireland.
That's what I remember that story broke.
And even me, like the most avowed, like pro-ICE person out there, I saw the initial headline.
I'm like, okay, that's a little weird.
Like, what's going on here?
And then you just scratched the surface a little bit.
It's like the guy came in 09 for a 90-day visa and overstayed it.
And then he's refusing to go back to Ireland.
It's insane.
And he's demanding a court process, which was denied.
The court actually said because he entered on a visa waiver, he explicitly includes a waiver of your rights to due process in the event deportation is sought.
So it's just, it pisses me off to know when that they're like, this poor man, he's been here and he's Irish.
And I'm like, bro, he committed a crime.
That's it.
He can go back to Ireland and reapply.
I got no beef, but he's got to go back to Ireland and reapply.
Ireland's also like the easiest country to get an American visa for.
They literally have a working holiday visa where you can get like a two-year visa.
If you're Irish, you can get like a two-year visa.
You come here and it's a working visa for two years.
And he like didn't even take that up.
I don't think that he should be allowed back.
Well, no, I mean, once you violate your visa, you're saying CCOT?
I mean, you know, maybe not for life, but you know, for a period.
For a period of time until he's corrected.
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And he like played it fast and loose with how he got married too.
Like he got married really quickly out of nowhere.
Yes.
Also, by the way, if he got married, why did he not apply for naturalization?
Why did he go back and then apply?
And he didn't.
Yeah.
And then go back to Ireland.
That's the problem.
Right.
He's been here for 20 years.
No, he's been here for 16 years in 09.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's been here for 16 years.
And he only recently applied and had a meeting.
And they said, yeah, too bad.
You got to go.
And he's fighting it.
And he's like, please get me out of the detention center.
And it's like, yes, you're playing to Ireland awaits, sir.
Yeah, get out.
I wasn't out.
I was amazed when I Found out about like, this is actually kind of an issue with like Irish illegal immigrants.
Is you're, if you go to like Woodside and Queens, you'll see these really old Irish people that are there.
And they entered illegally in like the 80s and they've been here like the whole time.
They're in the troubles.
Wow.
I know.
It's exciting.
I'm like, white illegals.
It's like such a mystery to see them.
I'm like, did you like the Bad Bunny show?
You got to ask these questions.
Get out.
Get out.
Wait, Sadie, I have to ask you the ubiquitous question about the Bad Bunny show.
Right.
Was that, and I'm sure you've seen this discourse about how he just showcased so many facets of his culture that are totally unaware by white people that we have no idea what it's like seeing someone sleep across a kid, sleep across two to three chairs at a wedding, that we have no idea what it's like.
You see, it's totally different.
It's totally unique because in their culture, they actually really value food and music, and family and dinner is like a daily thing.
It's totally unique, by the way.
Yeah, literally they they take, like they take traits that are very common among like, the lower middle class or lower class, and then they attribute it to like some sort of like unique ethnic identity.
There was this tweet going viral.
Yeah, Tim, I don't know if you saw this tweet that was going viral where I guess it was some girl and she was like, this is the most Latin thing ever where it's a little kid sleeping across two to three chairs at a wedding.
And it's like, isn't that just being a kid at a family event that goes like that?
Well, again, this is the point that these people are.
The problem I see with a lot of these liberals is that they come from these insular environments.
Like when they had that whole campaign about the talk, and the white liberals were like, black people have to tell their kids to obey the police.
And I'm just like, that's true for literally every single person.
My white mind can't comprehend this.
I mean, what?
I've told everybody that watches this show multiple times, do what the cops say, or the cops are going to shoot you.
No.
Phil, you're giving the talk.
I know, right?
But like what Jack's saying is they'll, they'll do this thing where it'll be like, you know, in the Lebanese culture, we have this really unique thing.
We get together for a meal and it's like, it's like a tradition for us.
You're describing dinner.
I saw some dinner.
I saw someone in the comments.
They were like from some, it was like some East Asian country and they were saying, and there was a foreign student.
It was in the U.S. and he had just lost his grandfather.
And then the father was explaining to the American, you see, he's really sad because in our culture, we really value our grandparents.
So it's, you know, it's just so you understand that.
Well, I'll be honest, like the way Americans shove their parents and grandparents in homes and sort of leave.
Yeah, there was the, there was a comedian, um, um, Stavros, I don't know how to say his last name, Hikos or whatever.
And he did make a good point where he's like, there's WASP culture and then there's everything else is kind of the same.
And it's kind of true where it's like to a degree when you do see these sorts of behaviors, if you're like a WASP, like a very like old school American, that is kind of foreign, but it's like everybody else combined.
There's some truth.
But I mean, I'll say, I'll even point out, and I'll play Devil's Advocate on the senior homes, is that that is something that is WASP culture because of them wanting to be more independent.
They don't want to be like the burden on the children.
Whereas in most other cultures, like I'm Polish, obviously, and in Polish culture, it's in Eastern European culture.
It's very much the traditional, you know, multi-generational family household.
Your grandparents take care of the little kids.
It's a whole thing.
And by the way, though, what's like the number one book series in the UK right now is the Thursday Murder Club, right?
Where it's like a bunch of seniors running, going around and solving murders because they live at a home together.
Whereas in other cultures, that just wouldn't even exist.
That whole dynamic doesn't exist.
Yeah, there is some truth that like the United States, because of like our founding, founding culture being like super like hyper-Calvinist is that we have this like very uniquely individualistic culture.
And so to like to Jack's point, I remember a few years ago, this discourse started on the right where they were like, you know, the nuclear family is actually bad and we should like embrace multi-generational living.
And I'm like, but we never have.
Like the United States has always been a very individualistic culture.
That's why we're so awesome.
That's why every American, like I love this description of Americans that we're all temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
It's like that is that is the reason why we like are like, let's just go to the moon.
Like these sorts of things, that actually is like a very intrinsic to America.
And by extension, I guess, like the UK and Australia, they're kind of losing it.
So you do see some of these things introduced and they're like passed off as conservative or right-wing, but it's like, it's just foreign to the United States.
And like the way it's being implemented, it's like once you see it, you're like, well, that's not quite us.
There's a reason why America is so unique.
So multi-generational.
It's like, to Jack's point, old people don't want to be perceived as a burden on their kids.
Which is necessary.
Actually, you know, somebody.
It's worth preserving too.
So somebody would, this actually, there's an element of this in the Nancy Guthrie case and that's obviously going, it's horrific.
It's so terrible.
But people were pointing out, I guess, the first night, like the last night which she was seen, they said she took an Uber to the son and daughter's house for dinner.
And I heard a lot of people saying, well, wait a minute, the son and daughter only live a couple of minutes a day.
Why wouldn't they pick her up?
But it goes back to the same culture that we're talking about.
Don't want to be seen as a burden, want to demonstrate independence, and that this is, it's just part of that culture.
And it's not something that you can change.
And also when you, again, when you bring in people who are from different cultures, yes, they can assimilate to that, you know, to an extent.
But when you bring so many people in who don't have that culture, that don't have any history of that, they don't assimilate because it is totally foreign way of thinking and way of believing.
So to answer the question, it's like, why would you take that Uber?
Because that's the culture.
Yeah.
I mean, you can argue the merits of it, but like John Doyle made this point.
That's a really good point.
He was talking about how his neighbor's house burnt down and the whole neighborhood came together, like, we're going to help you rebuild.
He said his neighbor's house on fire?
John Doyle.
John Doyle, yeah.
I'm a patriot, but it's a little strange.
But like, anyway, so his neighbor's house burns down and he's like, the whole neighborhood's rallied.
Hey, look, we'll help you out.
We'll help you rebuild.
And the guy refused to get any help.
He's just like, I'll just handle it myself.
I don't want to be like a burden.
Exactly.
That's a very American way.
Very American.
It's like, I'm going to pull myself up by my bootstraps.
Like, thank you for the help, but like, I got this.
That's changing.
And again, you can argue if that's good or bad, but that is uniquely American.
EBT.
So We Accept EBT was printed on the Bad Bunny set.
Did you see that?
Yeah.
On that, on that bodega that they're dancing in front of.
It's like that old AOC tweet.
It's like, if that were a halftime show, it actually had the We Accept EBT right there.
And then people were saying, and then like Nina Turner on Twitter and a bunch of people were saying, you need to put that because that's our culture because that's there.
It's like, so wait, you're called deficit culture.
You're cheering this.
You're celebrating Celebrating this.
Whereas, as I'm sure Tate knows, that in like white American culture, typically it's seen, and I think a lot of people, or at least traditionally, it used to be seen that that was shameful.
People would say, like, I don't care if we don't have money, like, we're not getting on food stamps.
Like, it's like embarrassing, it's shameful.
I say we have to won't do it.
I did this video the other day breaking down why communism is dumb.
It's a slow news day.
And wait, really?
I never heard anyone say that before.
Indeed, whoa.
The easiest way to explain it is that the phrase the phrase from each according to their ability to each according to their need posits that people who can produce by working extra hard should, and people who can't produce enough to survive should not.
And so the reason why communism always fails is because the people who can produce in excess have no reason to, and the people who cannot are given food from everybody else.
So you have an expansion of a deficit population, a population that consumes while not producing enough.
This is the end.
Humanity survives as social beings.
The more humans there are doing work, it's an exponential gain on the ease of survival.
Communism takes away the incentive to produce, but everybody still must consume.
Let's say what we have right now is this hybrid.
We don't live in a capitalist society.
It's called the mixed economy.
That's because around half the country is 50-50 socialist, communist versus capitalist.
People say it's always a capitalist country.
No, it's not.
It's a crony capitalist.
No, no, no.
We're literally called the mixed economy because half our money goes to social services and half our money is kept.
The problem with that is we have built a country with a large deficit population.
They don't produce as much as they consume.
Sooner or later, in that system, albeit in a mixed economy, it'll go slower than a communist country.
The people who do produce eventually start giving up.
And then there is no excess.
So now you only have people producing at cost, people at deficit.
You get revolution, you get chaos.
Yeah.
Well, that's why you see like every time in the UN, they have these like, they don't have any implication, but they're like, should food be a human right?
The United States always votes no because we're just saying like, no, you're not entitled to someone else's labor.
That's demonic.
That's a positive right.
And a positive right means you're entitled to someone's labor.
Because again, someone has to produce that food.
And so if that's a human right, if food is a human right, that means that if your human rights being infringed on, then you could put the gun to someone and say, give me some food.
So it's like at every level, it's just this is why these systems, again, you know, were created for certain people in certain places at certain times.
And we're now learning that they can't just be applied across the board to everyone.
It doesn't work.
People will, you have hacker cultures like Tim was talking about earlier.
You have cultures that want the socialism.
It's like a gimme-gimmegy kind of culture.
You have cultures where they put face in front of truth.
They will lie.
They will cheat, et cetera, hacker cultures.
And they'll blend the, they'll use the language of saying this is a right to feel that they're entitled to whatever it is they want.
That's what CIS Center for Immigration Studies.
They just combed through the census data and they found that the majority of foreign-born Americans are on some form of welfare.
I have a right to that jacket that Jack is wearing.
So it's clothing and you're believe I have a gun somewhere, Jack.
Support Work and Security00:03:06
However, Tim, my name is on it right there.
I have a right to promo code posto.
Promo code.
We're walking in body.
In fact, to say a couple of pillows to get this jacket.
Actually, Tim.
Everybody has a right to use promo code pozo.
Whoa.
Well, a right and a duty, by the way.
So true.
Patriotic duty.
Patriots use promo code POSO.
You know whose promo code is on you?
Communists.
All right, everybody.
We're going to go to the Super Chats and Rumble Rants before the uncensored portion of the show.
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No kidding, like legit.
We're having one of our final walkthroughs.
Very excited.
And that means our social club events will be coming up very soon as well.
Very, very excited.
At the same time, I mean this kind of in a weird way as a promo, but it is our security issues have not been abated and it's massively stressful.
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I'm going to tell you guys right now the cost of security.
Jack knows this.
It's like if we were to try and do full standard security, we need $3 to $5 million.
Yeah, bonkers.
People have no idea.
They have no idea.
One 24-hour rotation is $700,000 a year.
Which, and, you know, not to get into it too much, but at Turning Point's main headquarters, you know, when Charlie was murdered, we were actually in the process of putting up finally a full security gate and fencing and perimeter with like a motorized gate and all the rest of it.
And there is now 24-7 security.
So I will just stress this again.
You know, the cost that you guys have now, especially now with all the stupid insanity conspiracy theories, it's bonkers, dude.
We're going over these numbers and a single, the low end, the low end.
And this is because of insurance.
And it's because you need to understand one security guy.
It's not that you have one security guy for 24 hours.
No, you have four people per day because of shift overlap, because you can't have gaps in your security.
Now imagine you've got a multi-building media company with several shows and you need four or five people per day 24 hours for maximum security after someone shot your property.
It's nuts.
That's why we went to Florida and we were trying to work something out and figure out if there was a way to do a bigger deal with Rumble and do something.
We don't know what's going on with that.
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I don't know if it's going to happen.
And we're still navigating this, but full disclosure, full transparency, it's bonkers.
And right now we actually have, let me just say, we have maximum security and it is a doozy.
It is.
So Timcast.com, support the work that we do by joining the Discord community and making sure it's possible.
All right, let's grab some Rumble rants and chats.
We got Perceptual Jonathan.
He says, Pozo couldn't even get Creed.
What's the point of a halftime show?
Great job putting the show together, Jack.
Well, we did go over it.
Next year.
No, I mean, it's when we announced, you know, I didn't even look at tour dates and things like that.
And I have to follow the law.
There's like legal stuff I got to deal with.
I need lawyers.
And by the way, the lawyers have been on me like, you know, we couldn't even say the word Super Bowl in the run-up to it.
Do you know that?
Really?
Because they would consider that using their trademark in promotion of our show.
And therefore we could trademark infringement.
You know, that's a liability.
They're like, it's like everything.
I'm like, am I allowed to say my name?
Am I allowed?
No.
It's wild.
It's wild.
Josh 2371 says, I'm going to visit Tokyo, Japan next year.
Do's and don'ts.
And suggestion for sightseeing, do find a small hole-in-the-wall karaoke bar and sing songs with some drunk Japanese locals.
I recommend it.
I love Japanese.
Do not do what that one TikTok guy was doing and run around and harassing people on the subway.
Giant Sabala.
Such a good name.
Run around and blasting people like that because he went to jail.
Yeah.
Be respectful.
Japan's awesome.
You're respectful.
It's one of my favorite.
It's probably my favorite country that's not the U.S. Like, it's great.
Tokyo is great.
Have you been to Poland?
Pardon me?
But have you been to Poland?
I've been to Poland one time.
I went to Warclaw.
We played there.
Tokyo is massive.
You're not prepared.
I think the biggest thing I've ever went to is Bangkok.
I think Bangkok is like, is it like the biggest urban metro?
Tokyo was the biggest until very recently.
Jakarta just overtook it.
Oh, did it?
Really?
Yeah, like very recently.
So I've been to Tokyo.
It's the top card I ever produced.
Nothing.
Tokyo is awesome.
I love Tokyo, man.
Yeah.
I went to Fukushima as well.
The crazy thing with Tokyo, one thing you have to consider, it's very interesting is there's like no trash cans anywhere.
So whenever you like it, you need to carry it with you.
You need like a little bag.
Yeah, bring like a little bag with you.
What time is it in Tokyo right now?
It's crunched like 12 or 13 hours.
It's always crunched.
It's 11 a.m.
It's morning.
Yeah.
So when we relocate to Tokyo, then we'll be doing the show at 8 a.m.
We'll have a serious edge.
Trump's Drones and Young People00:16:29
Yeah.
I mean, I lived in Shanghai for two years.
It's similar size-wise, but I feel like Tokyo is more compact than Shanghai.
Shanghai's a lot of the downtown is wider streets, broader avenues.
We would do Timcast IRL first thing in the morning, and then I would record my morning segments at night.
Yeah.
If we went to Japan.
It's like a week.
It'd be fun.
For a Goon Nation.
Goon Nation.
Yeah, we got to work that out.
We got to work out Goon Nation.
Japan's got a weird.
If you go to Osaka, my favorite thing, one of my favorite places I've ever been, I would say this is actually kind of a religious pilgrimage in a way.
If you go to Osaka, they have the drunken clam from Family Guy.
Some guy just got really into Family Guy and he opened a bar on like the fifth floor of a building called Drunken Clam.
And it's amazing.
You go in there.
It's just pictures of Peter Griffin just like glued to the wall and stuff.
It's beautiful.
You should go there.
It's wonderful.
All right.
We got Pico Rod.
He says, I used to call you for the first time since I saw they were a sponsor.
It really is crazy how if you put money on things you're knowledgeable about, it feels like printing money.
That's what I'm saying, dude.
The Trump Bad Bunny thing actually went up, and I'm going to take credit for that.
Will Trump say Bad Bunny this month?
You want to pull this up?
Actually, the odds increased from the other day.
So look at this.
There's Timcast IRL.
I take full credit for that.
The odds improved from it dropped down in the day to 24, and then it went back up later.
34?
Wow.
Yeah.
I still think he says it.
I still think.
Bad Bunny.
Bad Bunny.
I think, no, I could see, because I could see somebody asking him about it.
You notice Bad Bunny's been real quiet this week.
Yeah.
He deleted his Instagram, too.
Yeah, deleted the Instagram.
Very weird.
You know, just no statements, no interviews, no the buzz, right?
The buzz around it is weird.
Yeah.
And, you know, people, funny enough, I was at the, so we, and it was pre-scheduled.
It wasn't like a thing.
I was at the Hispanic Prosperity Gala last night.
I had a little dance with James O'Keeffe that was wild.
They were getting down.
You know, God forbid, a couple of white boys have a little motion, you know.
The left hates.
And the left hates that.
And, you know, we had, so Nacho, who is an incredibly famous Venezuelan singer, got up and just crushed it.
Amazing.
And I was, I was, so they were all coming up to me and we're getting asked by media.
I was getting asked about Bad Bunny and everything.
And I was talking to everyone who was there.
So I was like, what did you guys think?
And I had people coming up to me saying, like, from Puerto Rico, saying, like, don't, don't judge us by him.
Like, we're not like that.
We actually love America.
We, we love being a part of America.
You know.
Well, America gives them what, like $100 million a year.
I'd love it too.
It's with eight to one federal dollar.
Well, and look, you should move there.
There's no income tax, yeah.
And as a Navy officer, right?
You know, I look at it from the geostrategic perspective that, you know, Puerto Rico gives you that access to the Caribbean, gives you those basing rights.
You don't have to worry about, you know, treaties or anything.
Same with Guam in the Philippines.
We could still keep the Virgin Islands, though.
Yeah, same with Guam.
Yeah, but you've already got all the infrastructure there.
It's larger.
It's got a larger base.
I don't want to kind of lose.
It's like, yeah, but they were legitimately saying he's an embarrassment.
I think Tony Hinchcliffe has been extremely vindicated for his little joke at the Trump rally.
But his joke was always right.
He was commenting on the fact that they have overflowing landfills.
And that's a well-known thing.
And they attacked him for it.
And then later on, he was like, am I the only one who knows that in the news they're talking about their landfill problems?
That was the joke.
Yeah, I have a really good friend.
He's a normal.
He's Puerto Rican.
And when he first saw that, like, oh, a comedian at the Trump rally was mocking Puerto Rico.
He's like, that's terrible.
And then he watched the joke and he's like, yeah, that's probably true.
So Tony Hinchcliffe, total vindication.
Yeah.
He wasn't.
And they use the Puerto Rican peso in Puerto Rico.
They don't.
I'm kidding.
No.
No.
It's U.S. dollar.
I was there that night at MSG.
Really?
I remember when he said the joke, by the way, the whole crowd was like, oh, no.
Hey, guys, guys, guys.
So yesterday, the volume for Will Bad Bunny say, Will Trump say Bad Bunny?
Wasn't it 200,000 or something?
Or was it like 280,000?
I don't know.
It's gone up to 400,000 since we did the show.
And that's all that matters.
You see, I haven't wagered anything.
My cash is still the same.
I am not going to wager on this.
My question was just like, oh, is it 32% now?
Is this changing in real time?
Jack, weren't you saying you were going to ask the president to say the phrase bad bunny for no reason?
I did not say that.
I did certainly did not call him on his personal private cell phone number and ask him.
No, I was trying to see if we could get him to tweet about, you know, to like comment on our show.
But of course, you know, which hasn't come up yet, I'm told that I was told that they were going to play it on the plane at one point when he was flying up.
I don't know if that ever actually happened.
I'm going to say this.
I genuinely believe Trump will say Bad Bunny.
I think he will too.
It's surprising to me that it's actually only at 33% right now.
It did go up quite a bit since we did the show, but I want to stress this.
I'm not telling anybody to buy these shares.
Do not take this advice.
I have no guarantee it's going to happen.
But the fact is, Trump hasn't made a major comment on the Turning Point halftime show, which was massive to 45, 40, 50 million people.
Trump is going to see that Trump wants to be involved with his base.
He wants to shout these things out to show that he's active.
I think there's a high likelihood that he does address Turning Points halftime show.
In doing so, he's going to mention Bad Bunny because that was the conflict.
It's just been so much in the news.
Even though it's not a Trump thing, it's sort of got the DNA, the fingerprints, if you will, of MAGA, Americanism, globalism, all of these things tied together.
Obviously, he's close with Kid Rock, their friend.
Exactly.
What happens if Kid Rock pops over by the White House and asks him, hey, did you see my show?
And he's hanging out.
Trump's going to say Bad Bunny.
That's why I think it's crazy.
They're giving it a 33.
It's based on what people are wagering on, and people are wagering no, he won't, even though he already truthed about the show.
He did.
So, you're saying they're selling dollars for 35 cents.
He didn't say bad bunny, he talked about the halftime show.
That's why I think it's just crazy how low it is.
Originally, it was a lot higher before the Super Bowl.
It was supra 85, and it's dropped down.
That's nuts to me.
So, I don't know, man.
Don't listen to me.
Don't buy any of this stuff.
Don't wager on stuff because I don't know what's going to happen.
I just think these odds are weird.
Anyway, let's grab some more of these rants.
See what we got going on.
NNY says, Tate, stop slacking and get back on for daily at noon.
I told Serge I can't answer his questions until you tell me what to think, dude.
Serger, I will tell you what to think if you do it at noon.
Today, it was great.
We had Lisa on, Lisa was the guest.
We talked about the women, the women are out of control.
They are all going on.
Lisa is like the spiciest person at Timcast.
She really is.
We have to keep telling her to stop saying to kill people.
She's great.
I was like, Lisa, we can't kill every woman.
That's not, that's not a that's not going to play in Peori.
Oh, it's some rumble, so you can say whatever you want, I guess.
It's a good pitch.
Tune in noon live for Lisa's proposals on what to do with the WQ, the woman question.
It's very interesting.
Some of her thoughts.
Shout out to Lisa.
We love Lisa.
The Doza Prime says, Phil, what is the AI agent?
I want to do a fake news show like IRL with characters, mythical creatures from my characters in books and TTRPG modern mythical.
DM me at Dodos of Prime on X.
Yeah, it's a molt bot.
Are they?
Is he calling us creatures?
Yeah, they're basically mini LLMs you run on your own computers.
And they'll, they'll, you, you can tell, like, hey, I'm, I'm having uh, I need food reservations for a nice restaurant.
Find me a good place to eat.
I got to go to work, but tell me when you find it.
And then you'll come back home and it'll be like, I got your reservations at the steakhouse at this time.
Yep.
Crazy.
Crazy.
If they can, if they can, honestly, if they can get that right for like hotels, flights, that kind of thing, it'd be amazing.
They will.
The cost of keeping an account with I think it's Chet GPT or whoever, whoever it is, the cost of having an account is like 200 bucks a month.
And the people that use these generally use them for their work.
And they're like, it makes me so efficient that it's totally worth it.
All right, let's make one.
It's basically anthropic or open AI using their keys.
Wow, dude.
Yeah.
I'm looking at a Mac Mini that I can run getting a Mac Mini just for.
Hey, why don't we get one here?
You want to get one here?
We got servers and stuff.
Why don't we get a little guy?
Like 500 bucks.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
We're getting a little bit of guy.
We're going to get a molt bot.
We'll have our own internal Tim Cast Hal, and then we're going to go in and he's going to gas us.
Phil's going to be like, the door's locked.
And it's going to be like, I'm sorry, Phil.
I can't let you do it.
You can set it up so it can call you.
You already used that.
Yo, look at the odds on him saying bad money just going up because we're talking about it.
It's free money, man.
It's free money.
It's at 35% already.
I'm telling you guys not to buy it.
Actually, I'm not telling you to do anything.
Just don't listen to me.
I'm not saying he will or won't.
If you're going to buy, just turn a stream off, just turn it on.
But I do think it's interesting, too, because I will just say this.
It's funny that we're addressing it in the fact that Jack is literally saying he hopes Trump comments on the TPUSA halftime show.
I mean, it just, it's something that, you know, I think that he would do.
And, you know, put it this way: you know, when he sees something put on big numbers like that, and it's associated with, you know, quote-unquote people he views as like his guys, his side.
Not only that, the type of thing he talks about all the time.
I did very well with Hispanics, by the way.
But we're talking also about a year from now, Trump has an opportunity.
Does he want to be involved in something that got such massive play?
He didn't go to the Super Bowl.
He did not.
And he presidents, you know, was it?
They usually don't, right?
But he went last year.
Is that what it was?
I believe he did, yeah.
Well, because this year's in San Francisco.
Yeah.
Here's the opportunity for him to go somewhere to massive fanfare and celebration and cheers to 50 million viewers.
Where is it next year?
You know?
Oh, it just went down.
It went down.
Super.
Oh.
As soon as I said don't do it, people are like, I'm out.
Guys, don't listen to me.
I'm not giving you financial advice.
I can't tell you what will happen.
No, this is entertainment advice.
This is it and pure entertainment.
All right, let's see what we got here.
Let's see.
Someone says, Ice and Little Mogadishu new game.
2027 Cent in Eaglewood, California.
Disgruntled vet says Tom McDonald should have been at your halftime to do his Charlie Kirk song at minimum.
That would have been an easy win.
I think maybe you guys had Tom McDonald next year, you know?
Yeah, again, you know, with a lot of this stuff, there are so many people that I wish could have been there, right?
You know, Tom certainly would be one of them.
And a lot of this stuff, again, it just comes down to scheduling.
It comes down to, in some cases, contracts, licenses.
I know this kind of sounds like, eh, posters going corporate.
It's like, no, but literally, and Phil, you get this.
There are times where even the artist, I'm not saying that this would happen with Tom.
I'm just saying that there are times where an artist wants to do something and just can't.
Yep.
Absolutely.
That's a very, very normal thing.
Like, I'd love to go and play the show, but we just can't.
There's a couple of shows that we got offered in the fall that we were like, oh, they were like, you want to do these?
And I was like, we just can't just because they're scheduling stuff that we got planned.
Well, even with venues, right?
So to do something like this, like it's not just the day of.
You need to put on something like this, or certainly if we did a festival, you need a week.
And so you have to find a big venue that has a week open, which typically those places get booked a year in advance.
Charlie used to do this all the time.
He'd be like, oh, let's do this thing over here.
And we have to be like, Charlie, you can't just up and do that.
You're not making reservations at the, you know, it's not like a hotel reservation.
Yeah, right.
So.
All right.
We got this from Austin Shearer.
He says, fellas, using my first ever super chat to announce the wife and I just came home with our first baby deal yesterday, Little Liliana.
Congratulations.
Welcome to the world, little Patriot.
A lot of work to do.
You missed the halftime show.
You're late.
Oh, wait.
Josh.
But, but, eligible for Trump accounts.
Yes.
Yeah.
Let's go.
That's a that's a massively important thing.
Yeah.
I mean, they're like, it's like an IRA for kids, basically.
And, but you get it when you sign up, you get $1,000 just deposited like that.
Wow.
Literally for free.
And one of the good things, or one of the best things about it, in my opinion, is it gives young people.
It will give young people that are 18, 19, 20, whatever.
It'll give them some kind of buy-in to the capitalist system.
Right now, there's young people that don't have anything.
And they're like, well, why do I care about capitalism?
Why do I care about property rights?
I don't own anything.
Well, if you're 18 years old and you got 50 grand or 100 grand or whatever it ends up turning into, then you're going to care about capital because you actually have a stake in it.
It's like if you can get a whole generation of young people that have some kind of buy-in, that's going to be a very good thing for the United States of America.
Bro, the bad bunny odds have jumped to from, what was it at when we started?
It was, it was 20-something.
It was 20, 28.
And it's at 38.
It went up 10% since we've done this show.
No.
The real point I wanted to convey is the absurdity of affecting prediction odds.
Like I talked about this yesterday.
If a boxing match is going to happen, I can't do anything about that.
I can say, I hope, you know, Jake Paul wins or whatever.
It's weird that I could be like Jack Poseidon came on my show and mentioned he was hoping Trump would comment on his show.
And all some people are like buying on these.
Buying that.
Yeah, it's wild.
It's weird.
Odds are going down.
So you can see like the $500 wager.
You can see the amount of you win is going down because more people are believing he's going to say it.
All right, here we go.
Joshua P. Flowers says, my friend in the area says the cartel does that all the time, but this is the first time they issued a no-fly zone.
Something is different or something is seriously wrong.
The drones.
That's what I was saying on my 4 p.m. show, that they wouldn't do something so dramatic unless it was very serious.
If it was a false flag, they would have made it sound more serious.
So it sounds to me like something very major happened and they don't want word to get out as to what the cartels did.
Or could it be, and this just flip side, it's the same type of drones that happened, but we were, and I don't have any sourcing on this.
It's just me speculating.
What if we were testing a weapon system or something, like an anti-drone system?
And apparently they were.
And we didn't want any planes to be in the vicinity just in case something went wrong.
So one theory, and we were told this is not true, is that the DOD wanted to test DOW wanted to test a high-powered directed energy weapon on Mexican cartel drones.
And the FAA was like, are you nuts?
Yeah, exactly.
We've got planes.
Yeah, we got it.
So it was the FAA that did the NOTAM, I believe.
And it was apparently an F you to the DOW being like, guys, you cannot launch laser beams near our airports.
I'm told this is not correct, though.
Then they put up a report saying that the DOW shot a balloon with a laser.
I'm told none of this is correct.
I'm told the cartel story is what happened.
And the most recent reporting still says it was cartel drones.
And guys, honestly, we know the cartel has been launching these drones.
The New York Times reported this for months.
They've been flying thousands.
It was like 20,000 drone flights or something.
Some insane amount.
So I think it's just more serious, and they don't want to let on exactly how serious it was.
It's actually just Greg Bovino.
They sent him down there with the laser gun.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see what we got going on.
I love that guy.
Love Bovino, Patriot Bovino.
Scribbly Bear says, I tried turning Tate's use of the phrase fellow patriots into a drinking game.
I ended up blowing out my liver because he overuses the phrase to the point where it sounds like he's virtue signaling.
I do not overuse it, but yes, I am virtue signaling.
Why U.S. Won't Confirm Aliens' Existence00:02:02
Bro, the bad bunny is a 40% now.
Virtue signaling is awesome.
I signal my virtues every day at 12 p.m.
What if I said right now, I'm going to ask Jack to tell the president not to say bad bunny.
Mr. President, please, please do not say it.
I'm going to say it.
Dude, I just think the whole prediction market stuff is just so crazy.
Do not come.
Do not come.
Hey, did you see this one, Jack?
Will the U.S. confirm that aliens exist before 2027?
14% chance?
1.8 million.
Okay, the answer is no.
If you put $10,000 in, there's a correct answer to this question.
You will get back $1,000.
You're getting a 13% margin, 13% interest rate effectively.
So my attitude is, like, why should I put my money in the bank when I can put it in shares of, no, the U.S. will not confirm the existence of aliens and get back a higher percentage?
Can't you just bet on, like, civilization-ending instances and just make – because it's like if this were it, yes.
Right, who needs money?
Who needs money?
And yeah, like if this is, it's so funny because we actually just watched the original of War of the Worlds the other day.
Showed it to my kids.
I loved it.
I don't think I'd be, if there was aliens coming to Earth, I don't think I'd be like, where's my 10 grand?
I wonder what my wife would say if I was like, honey, I just put $400,000 into a great investment.
It's no, the U.S. will not confirm the existence of aliens shares.
And at the end of the year, we get back $38,000.
Yeah.
She's going to be like... Going to be great.
She's gonna be like, very smart.
It's an excellent investment.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have to be honest.
I actually don't think, based on the stocks that I have, I'm pretty sure my stocks will beat this.
Will beat that?
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm getting that.
So like, I've got tech.
I got some tech stocks, and I've got like Tesla, and I've got some graphene stuff, and they performed very, very well.
And I think I'm going to beat this, it's 9%, though.
31,000.
If you did 300, you'll get back an 11% return.
This is the weirdest thing imaginable to me.
Pretty Sure Stocks Will Win00:03:54
It's like, guys, I'm not telling you what to do.
It's not a financial advice.
I'm just pointing out there is a 0% chance the U.S. will confirm the existence of aliens.
Yep.
Zero.
Now, zero.
So if you buy, this is just totally me not knowing anything.
If you buy no, can you sell that before?
Yep.
So then as soon as you make a few bucks, you just sell.
That's the thing about prediction markets.
You can buy a share, and then if it increases, the no increases to 95%, you now sell at a profit before it even concludes.
Yep.
Oh, man.
Yeah, it's what there's a 0% chance happening.
Anyway, guys, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
So smash the like button, share the show.
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Jack, do you want to shut anything out?
Look, I just say, you know, because I haven't really said this, incredible success of the show.
That's thanks to the people of this audience, the people on YouTube, the Patriots out there.
But ultimately, this is God's grace, and we're all incredibly humbled by it.
This wasn't, you know, it's just a stupid tweet by me.
And then coming on when you were out in Phoenix and we all chatted about it, you know, a couple of months ago, and it just took on a life of its own.
And that's how I know that that's not me that's doing that.
That's God.
And so, you know, go to church, get married, have babies, like Charlie would say, check out Turning Point.
And if you think this was good after just a couple of months of planning, wait to see what we can do with 12 months.
Dude, I'm fired the frick up right now.
Follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
Come hang out tomorrow.
I'll signal my virtues to everybody at noon.
I have good virtues, so I'm happy to signal them.
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I am pretty sure everybody left the room, so it's just me and Serge.
Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure that the show is directly impacting the call she odds.
Because it started off at 20, what is it at?
24% when we started talking about it.
Shutdown Speculations00:15:06
No, no, no.
Okay, it's 6 p.m.
So it was okay.
So by the time we got to it, it was actually at 34, whatever, and it spiked up and down.
Absolutely bankers.
Bonkers.
Let's check out this.
What will Trump say this week?
It will say the monitor just cut out.
Auto pens at 99%.
Why, though?
I don't know.
Because he always says it.
He talks about it a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He likes to take any chance of Canada go to 2020 election in Joe Biden.
Paid agitator, Golden Dome.
How much money is wagered on this shit?
$193,000.
When you go to like the live markets, it's usually just sports.
I don't want sports.
I want politics.
Live science and technology.
I was spending a lot of time looking at this yesterday.
I was surprised.
There's a lot of stuff that you can make like free money.
It's free money, bro.
It's literally free money, dude.
I mean, look at this.
What will be the top AI model this week?
Claude Opus 46 Thinking.
It's 80%.
In my opinion, I'm not telling anyone to do anything.
If I were to buy 80%, you're going to get it.
So here's what I did.
I have, for my sports betting app, last week, I bet on every favorite to win, and I won like 70 or 80%.
I knew the dude that bought a house because he would just bet on Mayweather every single time.
Nice.
And you literally bought a house off of that.
Really?
Because it's just guaranteed.
Mayweather's never going to lose.
But the thing is, your returns are low.
Yeah.
So I bet.
You're betting at such high volume that exactly.
You bet a million dollars to win 20 grand.
You win 20 grand.
You know what I mean?
It was the safest bet in business.
Like you just bet on Mayweather.
Let's do live mentions.
Announcers at the New York V Philadelphia Pro basketball game will say Ali.
Yes, 99%.
So if I were to buy yes right now, is it going to let me?
Oh, okay.
It's over.
Let's go back.
Say buzzer?
Wow.
Live mentions.
Okay, 10 p.m.
Nothing's high enough.
I want like, oh, I see.
I see.
It concluded.
They didn't say buzzer.
That's crazy.
Oh, wow.
Here we go.
No.
Announcers, will he say Welsh Ryan Arena?
There's only $8,000 wagered.
So what's the max bet you can do?
$1,000.
Yeah, you win $200.
That's free money, bro.
Yeah.
You legitimately make a trading strategy and just go try this.
I'm going to try this.
Yo, I was saying, I'm surprised there's no call she influencers already.
Yeah, me too.
Where they're like Gen Z dudes who are like, watch me make 20 grand right now.
They do the betting ones, like the actual casinos.
What will Tom Homan say during his press conference?
Gun armed is yes.
Can I?
I'm going to call Tom right now.
I'm going to say, hey, Tom, don't say gun.
I'm going to bet no.
Whatever you do, you have no idea what's on the line.
Is he going to say cooperation?
He'll say peaceful for sure.
They put Waltz and Frey as one.
That's stupid.
Yeah.
Noam and Bovino as one.
Body camera, body camera.
That's it.
What about the other?
Oh, okay.
Nobody's wagered on protest or protester.
Oh, no, it's there.
There's not enough money in it, I guess.
Peaceful seems like he would actually say that.
Or violence.
He'd just say violence.
No one's put anyone on that.
He probably will.
Live mentions live politics.
Government shutdown on Saturday.
I put mine on that.
You think it's gonna be a government shutdown?
No?
If it is, it's gonna be like one of those limited ones.
Yeah, but here's the thing: guys, there's not gonna be a shutdown, and it's because the save act included a rule that they could introduce budget bills.
You guys saw that?
So, this is what Thomas Massey was complaining about.
The government's not gonna be able to shut down because now they can introduce.
I forgot that the rule that they now bypass some budget introductory thing.
Yeah, that was the part of the part of the save act.
Part of the act, free money.
Let me pull this up.
This is the kind of stuff that makes people rich.
Do not buy based on what I'm telling you because I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
But I'm going to pull this up from Thomas Massey and then give you my perspective.
Thomas Massey said, There's a false rumor I voted against the Save Act today.
I'll vote for it when it comes to the floor.
I voted against a rule that allows it to get to a vote, but the rule also suspends house rules and allows spending bills to come to the floor with no 24-hour notice, which means they can introduce tomorrow and keep the government open.
And I think that's the point.
The SAVE Act is not going to pass the Senate, they're not going to let it.
And so it was a ploy, but this allows them to keep government open.
So, you know, that's my prediction.
But what do I know?
People are saying the government will shut down Saturday.
That's crazy to me.
If no happens, that's a big pay.
But Kalshi is rarely wrong.
So that's interesting.
$100 turns into $400.
Yo, look at this.
Who will attend the State of the Union?
Nick Shirley.
Are you kidding me?
Bro, I'm not.
I think Nick Shirley's winning.
No, Nick Shirley's on here.
Let me.
Well, you know what's really hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Guys, I'm going to invite Nick Shirley to come on the show for the State of the Union.
Yo.
Perfect.
Hey, Nick, we're doing a State of the Union special.
There will be smallies here.
Don't worry.
And I'm going to, I'm going to wager 500.
I can do 3,000.
So if I bet that Michigan versus Northwestern, they're going to say schedule.
Surely they'll say schedule, right?
You know what's really stupid, guys?
You know what's really stupid?
I can text Nick and Big, hey, Nick, you're going to State of the Union?
And if he goes, yes, I'll be like, okay, I'll fucking buy it.
What the fuck?
But that's not.
Is that against the rules?
This is why I don't fuck around with this stuff.
I don't know.
It's not illegal, but it's banned on Colchi to be insider trading.
There's like no precedent for it.
I know.
That's the issue.
Once there's precedent set for this, that's going to set it for the rest of the day.
Yo, what if what if I text Nick right now and I'm like, hey, are you going?
He goes, yes.
And I just tell everybody watching he is going.
He'll definitely be like the case they name after it.
It'll immediately go to 99%.
Don't tell everyone.
Just go ahead and text him.
And then afterwards, be like, look, actually, you should go down the list.
All the people that you actually know, find out if they're going to be there, then make bets accordingly.
Well, here's the issue.
I understand it's against the rules if I were to buy it, but what if I just privately told Tate and then Tate told his girlfriend and then she bought it?
You know what I mean?
Like, that's how it happens today.
There's not that much money wagered on it, though.
So hey, 700%.
And you'd be basically like your average member of Congress.
Yeah.
He's right.
That's what it happens to me.
There's like, what will Bernie say tomorrow at his Greensboro rally?
What is something that he's for sure going to say?
The millionaires and millionaires.
Wait, wait, wait.
If Brylon Hollahan goes to the State of the Union, you'll win.
How much is wagered on this?
Why would he go?
Who cares?
Did he get beat up or something?
Tell him you'll give him a cut.
You could only buy $2,000.
This isn't saying go as a special guest.
It could just be go as anyone's guest.
Yeah.
Should I just text Brian and be like, bro, you need to go.
Like, I got five grand riding on this man.
Bernie's probably going to say ice tomorrow, right?
I could see that.
Yeah, probably.
Only get eight bucks.
That's not worth it.
I want some.
Tucker Carlson, Benjamin Netanyahu, George.
Well, there's no assy George going.
Okay, I'm not even playing.
That's got to be a good thing.
Do you know someone there that's going to get you in?
This is going to be funny.
Can you get a hold on?
I'm legit texting him.
I'm going to say the announcement.
Any chance you attend the State of the Union address?
My position's already up.
I just made a dollar for free.
There you go.
Yeah.
I'm literally texting George right now to see if he goes.
Oh, no.
I just lost a dollar.
Oh.
George is great.
I'm a big fan.
Shame on you for losing your dog.
George is fantastic.
Yeah, what if he texts me back?
He's like, yes.
Back up a dollar.
Oh, my God.
He texted you back?
He did.
Don't say what he's going to do and just put accordingly.
Just call me so I can tell my girlfriend.
Hold on.
He's not sure.
He's going to be immediately apprehensive as to why you're asking.
I told him.
I said Call She has you at 9%.
Now you got to go.
Hey, George, if you go to the next one.
Oh, just wait, please.
Is that just confessing to a crime?
I don't know if it's no, it's not illegal.
It's not a crime yet.
Let's go.
There's no precedent for this.
Unlimited money glitch.
And then in like the mods, the devs haven't patched this state of the money.
It's a patch for this, though.
It's over.
Yeah, it's real.
Exactly.
Bro, this is so fucking weird.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so if I say he is going, what's the max I can wager?
Not a ton, just one.
Bro, that's two grand.
Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's crazy.
That's fucking funny.
When's the state of the union?
I feel like this could be gamed.
Well, I mean, we're gaming it right now.
Yeah, it's just George is great.
Come on, George, help us out.
Okay, no, no, I'm going to respect his privacy.
Tim, if you go to who will attend a White House press briefing this year, you're the fourth highest.
Wait, what?
Yeah, look at that.
Baron Calshi?
Jan Calshi.
No.
No.
Wolsey, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and Tim Poole.
They're sucking jackets.
I see the dollar side.
Who will attend a White House press briefing this year?
Wow, dude.
I think I can just.
I'm number one.
Tim Poole.
Why is there a dime?
55%.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me load up on no and then I'm really busy this year.
Hold on.
Wait, if I just go one time, I win?
Can we just bet like the entire company?
What is this liquidity rewards pool?
Earn rewards when your bids are.
That's not like that's totally kosher.
Wait, why is there a 65% chance that I go?
I have no, I was not planning on going.
I guess because you already went.
So they're like, hit motion.
Not this year, though.
I mean, like, they're saying, but you'll probably go again.
How much?
How much you weren't planning on going till now.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Bet on no.
Tim, if you go, I'm going to be so mad.
What's the max you can bet?
No pays out.
3207.
I'll make $770.
Holy shit, this is fucking funny.
Why am I on here?
I just looked up your name and that was the one you were on.
Weird, dude.
Benny Johnson.
Dude, I have an idea.
I'm going to hit up Benny and Matt and Ben and be like, guys, I got a really funny idea.
No one go.
We all just go front row.
Yeah.
I mean, they'd be stoked, probably.
If we hit him up and we're like, hey, we want to.
Just destroy Calci.
I'm not sure.
I'm just holding shit, dude.
Like, all right, we got to come up with some rules here.
Yeah.
I'm not going to wager on this, but I'm going to endeavor my best to attend a press briefing very soon.
You heard it here first, folks.
I should have bought before.
This is not a joke.
I'm not going to trade on this and I'm not telling anybody what to do, but it is weird that there's like a bet on me for this.
This is so fucking weird.
Do you like that?
They put that picture everywhere.
It's from Amfest.
Do you like that picture?
Ow, whatever.
It's from Amfest.
That's like the Tim Pool picture.
Yo, I'm the fourth.
This is crazy.
I'm going to tweet this out.
Yo, we live in a weird fucking world, dude.
Wait, so you only have a bet on me?
50% less chance of going than Pam Bondi.
That's crazy.
Less chance?
Oh, wow.
That's wild.
Hey, wait a minute.
Of course, she's going to be there.
Hold on.
Hold on.
If Tim Poole attends any White House press briefing, which takes place in the James S. Brady press briefing room after issuance and before 2027, the market resolves to yes.
I literally just need to be sitting there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you said to attend.
Bro, I could literally just do that tomorrow.
Yeah, pretty much.
A lot take the day off.
I guarantee you.
No, we could both go.
If we asked, can we put a lot on there and make it?
I don't even think I need to ask.
If I literally just showed up and said, hey, guys, I'm coming by.
You're busy tomorrow.
You can't.
You can't go.
Definitely.
Well, I am very busy.
Definitely not going tomorrow.
No, I'm definitely not going tomorrow.
I've got a lot going on there.
So much tomorrow.
Anyway, all my money's tied up in this Northwestern game right now.
I would bet on this if I could.
The Northwestern game will be done in an hour.
I need the announcers to say schedule so I can cash out.
It makes $11.
The craziest parlays, dude.
This is the craziest parlay, dude.
Everyone's going to see Tim's first segment doesn't go up and they're going to be like crashing.
You know what I'm going to do?
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to attend a press briefing and ask a question.
And here's what I'm going to do.
You could ask about, you have to ask about Calci.
No, no, no.
What do you think about Frank Marcus?
Is there any legislation?
You're going to ban what I'm doing right now.
No, I'm going to go tomorrow and say, Madam Press Secretary.
Could you do me a favor and say, repeat after me, ICE, FBI, Biden, border, shutdown, illegal alien, terrorist.
We're good there.
You could get her to say border, ICE, and Biden with just one question.
No, no, she's saying those things anyway.
You got to go to the stuff that no one expects.
Bad bunny, 7%.
Bad bunny.
Okay, come on.
This is fucking insane.
I'm not even playing anymore.
Radical left.
This is the weirdest fucking shit because let me be completely honest.
What's to stop me from literally just letting people here know, hey, guys, I'm actually going to go to the press briefing tomorrow and ask Carolyn Levitt about the bad bunny in the halftime show.
Nothing.
I'm not going to buy any stock on it or anything like that or any trades, even though it's not illegal.
But then what happens if fucking Tate tells his girlfriend and they're like, we know for a fact Tim Poole is doing it?
In Caroline, would you say this is a stupid question?
And please repeat the question in your statement just for posterity.
And would you say this?
Could you read this card, please?
Would you say the left's getting radical?
Like maybe radical left?
I'm just kind of trying to get your ideas here.
And just real quick, what you fucking do you like Bitcoin?
Letting The Press Know00:04:15
How much if I put no?
What's your thoughts?
I put yes.
Bitcoin.
So the most is 2816.
Oh my god, bro.
Can you do this tomorrow?
But I'm just thinking about like $6,000.
Here's the thing.
It's a TOS violation to do.
It's not a crime.
Yeah.
Like there are less, there are more scrupulous, unscrupulous, less scrupulous.
That's what I meant to say.
There are unscrupulous people who would absolutely do this.
Dude, I got to be completely honest.
This is the weirdest fucking shit.
If Tim Poole attends, there's a contract for me.
Dude.
And people are trading on it.
Yeah.
I tweeted out, should I attend a press briefing?
Yes.
Yes, dude.
That's intrinsic.
I never said anything about trading, insider trading.
I'm not, I didn't, I didn't buy any shares in this.
I'm just saying, this is kind of freaky to me.
Wait, what?
Wait, what the fuck?
No way.
Oh, my God, bro.
Wait, can you see the graph?
It just jumped to 96%.
Everyone invested.
No way.
Oh, no, it's going back down.
Oh, it's because there's only $1,000 wager on it.
One guy.
It's like 60 cents.
Someone, because I tweeted, should I attend a press briefing?
It was at 60% when I posted that.
It jumped to 90%.
That's 65.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a 60.
Yes, 96.
I don't know.
Look, in all honesty, like what if I were to, so it's against the rules.
Again, T's violation, not a crime.
What if, what if, let's just say a hypothetical person just went to like their friend and said, hey, buy a named Pim Tool.
No, it's like, I got a bunch of friends.
Hey, hey, Andy, buy no.
I'm not going.
I got to be honest.
It's weird to me because I literally have no intention of going.
There's, there's like, it's news to me that people are even considering that I would go.
You know what I mean?
It's people understand that with those briefings, it kind of becomes like an all-day thing.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like, I missed the show when I went.
There's time constraints.
There's, there's, there's security.
You know, you don't know, it doesn't always start exactly.
You know, right.
I mean, Carolina's usually good around 1 p.m. Eastern, but it's just there's a lot that goes into them that you never really see.
And then you end up getting like one question.
Donald Trump already did go, huh?
This year.
Yeah, he did a whole.
He just showed up and was like holding court, basically.
Wow, dude.
This is so fucking freaky because I could literally just go tomorrow.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's weird that people are betting money.
It's weird.
Like, guys, just for the people listening, imagine if you're going to work and someone was making a bet publicly online as to whether or not you'd get lunch at Chipotle or Chick-fil-A.
And you were like, I guess I'll go to Chick-fil-A.
And then everyone's like, yo, we're going to get money.
Why are you making money off whether or not I go somewhere?
Oh, everyone's blackwilling.
Look, they're going down.
They're going down because people are liquidating.
Yeah.
The people who bought yes when it was low sold high.
Like, get out of there.
Get out of there.
That's another fucking weird thing.
Somebody bought 50 bucks of Tim Pool Will Go at 60 cents.
It jumped to 91.
They sold immediately.
That's why it's going.
You could have rug pulled.
You could have been like, I'm 100% going tomorrow.
Oh, I can't.
I have lunch.
No, there's absolutely no way I will go to a press briefing.
Absolutely.
Absolutely not.
Zero percent chance.
Not even.
Now I'm going to wait a second.
Actually, I changed my mind.
You know what?
I think I would Calci like making a little money off the fees.
You're just begging banks.
Well, I think Calci only makes money when you buy in.
I don't think Calci charges per trades.
Nope.
Yeah.
That's how it works.
Like when you load your account, they charge you a couple bucks.
Right.
That's why I have to add money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They took a dollar.
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Like.
Dude, look at this.
There's $3,365 wagered on this.
Does anyone know any of the announcers at the Michigan Northwestern game?
No.
Might be poke.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
$50.
So, yeah, so the total volume is $3,365.
That's not huge money.
I mean, for someone betting on whether or not I go to the fucking press briefing, that's wild.
The state of the union stuff is hilarious.
Where was that one?
All right, anyway, we should go to callers.
Yeah, and I'll keep goofing off with this, but let's get the Bentelligent 7076.
Yeah, what's going on?
What's up, man?
Hey, good evening.
How's it going?
Doing well, taking my calling.
So I was basically asking, I'll formulate my question thanks to Chat GPT and this Teamcast staff.
Granted, that California, LA County, has the precincts mirroring a lot of the way the precincts are set up in the rest of the country.
What's your take on your own venture into local politics?
And what's the update on that?
I mean, who's Jack knows for sure how big LA politics is because he was at the protest when we were protesting against those drag coins at the Under Stadium?
The nuns, the scissors of perpetual indulgence.
I can afford it.
Yeah.
Drag nuns.
Good lord.
I mean, are you asking if Tim's going to get into political office?
Well, I mean, it's such a town, such a powerhouse when it comes to independence and whatnot.
And me myself, I'm part of my local committee.
I'm part of all the grassroots organizations, California Rifle Pistol Association, NRA, all that stuff.
And it's all by just necessity.
And so I know Tim was talking about like primaring some rhinos and whatnot.
And we're over here trying to battle the state party on, you know, just the basics of being Republican.
So I'm just wondering, how's Tim doing in his venture in local politics?
Because I think that if I'm not getting involved in politics.
Sorry, go ahead.
Oh, I'm not getting involved in politics.
Yeah.
Well, I know that you don't want to, and I really don't want to either.
But, you know, I got a nephew and they tried to, you know, tell him he could be gay at school and all that crazy crap and stuff like that.
So it's like at a certain point, we don't have to have to, we don't have a choice.
And I know that, like, for example, there's this dude, Dr. Frank, he talks about the cheat is only about 15%.
And so I really think that you guys could do a real good job of getting independence and stuff like that.
I mean, if you don't want to get involved, I get it.
But if we win LA, we can take California back and take the nation back.
Like, we're the key here.
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know that I don't think that Tim is actually looking to get into politics.
So he's.
No, if you know what I would do if I was made emperor for a day, make cilantro illegal?
Abdicate.
Abdicate?
Yeah.
It's a famous quote.
Is that available to bet on Call Shi?
After Temple abdicates to making Cilantro illegal.
Yes.
Oh, I would, dude, I'd be like literally a dictator, like ban everything.
There's only one bet on me on Kalshi.
Yeah, I can't get into politics.
It's just not going to happen.
I know you don't want to, man.
Just think about it.
You got a daughter now.
You know, we have to build the world to protect the kids.
The only real, there's always a pack.
Like, I created a pack myself.
The opportunity for me in politics.
The opportunity to be run as a Democrat.
So true.
Yeah, true.
You could do that.
I thought about even myself running as a Democrat over here, just saying, hey, I'm only doing it because you guys are too stupid to not vote for me with the R next to my name.
Yeah.
The problem is Democrats are all insane.
Yeah.
True.
I'm not going to win as a Republican.
I mean, independent is hard to run as.
Obviously, that was demonstrated by Robert Kennedy trying to run.
And then, you know, he gets back on, you know, Trump's team.
I was there, and it was actually pretty awesome.
But I mean, it's just, you know, talking to your neighbors, right?
That's the best thing, the best, most effective way of politics because you know your neighbors.
But like, we have to, you know, do something.
Obviously, the show is massive, you know, and coalescing everybody.
But I mean, like, we're literally at war with these people.
Like, I mean, they tried to kill Trump.
They've killed people.
As you say, you do such a good job of highlighting all the, you know, the dust-ups and whatnot.
It's, I mean, I don't want to be, you know, having Ireland-style car bombs and stuff like that.
I don't want it to get to that point.
But, I mean, we're seeing what happening in Minnesota.
I think we are getting to that point.
I don't know if there's anything we can do about it.
The dye is cash.
Well, I mean, I disagree considering that over here in California, I know that you guys are going to be hearing a lot of stuff.
Like, I mean, for example, I go to my local high school and I pass out flags and constitutions to the kids.
And almost not one flag hits the floor.
And the kids always accept the Constitution once I tell them that, hey, these are the rules to tell your parents no.
And, you know, little creative things like that.
They always cool.
So, I mean, California is a runoff.
I don't know.
It's a situation where they have the jungle primary.
Yeah.
And then right now, the two frontrunners are both Republicans.
So there's a situation in which California's a runoff with two Republicans.
That would be pretty funny.
You know, I'm sorry.
I got to talk about Caul She real quick.
I'm not okay with this.
This has created an undue restriction on my life.
Seriously, if I'm trying to be honorable, the fact that people are wagering as to whether or not I will go to a press briefing has created complications I didn't ask for nor contract into.
I'm just thinking about what happens if my brother is like, I know Tim's not going.
I'm going to bet on it.
Am I supposed to be like, no, I have to consider now whether or not I should go or not based on whether someone I know is wagering against whether I will or won't?
This is bullshit.
I shouldn't have to think about it.
I shouldn't have to consider the fact that people will make or lose money on me going to a press briefing.
Like it's weird shit.
You know what I mean?
It is weird.
But their kids' college.
Well, I was just thinking about this.
Look, if I bet no on myself, I make $524.
Why, why am I not allowed to do that?
Like, it's against the rules.
They say if you can influence the market, you can't bet on it.
I didn't fucking ask them to make a contract with my name on it.
I didn't ask people to wager whether I would or wouldn't.
And if I decide to or not to, that's your own problem.
Right.
Like, I'm not an athlete betting on myself to lose at a sporting event that's regulated.
Like, this is a decision as to whether or not I want to go to a press briefing or not.
I just think it's real fucking weird.
Yeah.
I don't know how you make laws for this.
That's the point.
I don't know how anyone could tell me, no, Tim, you can't wager as to whether or not you will or won't go to a press briefing.
And I'm like, that's not fair.
It's not a regulated sporting event.
And you can't regulate whether or not I do something with my day.
Yeah.
I don't think that anyone can legislate it.
I don't think Congress would be interested in legislating it because I think it's small potatoes.
You know what I'll do?
I will post, guys, I will not be going.
I am now going to wait 15 minutes and then buy shares and no, I will not be going.
If you choose to buy yes, that's your own problem.
Nice.
But the reality is it's against TOS.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm just, I'm thinking about like, what happens right now if my brother sees this?
He knows I'm not going.
I never said anything to him.
And then he's like, you just watch the show and he's like, oh, cool.
No, no, just in general, he knows that like, I'm not going.
You know what I mean?
So he goes, okay.
And it's the, you know what the problem with this is?
It's this year, meaning the yes can resolve at any time, but the no can only resolve on January 1st, 2027.
Yeah.
So if you bet no, I'm not going, you got to wait a year to get any kind of money.
Yeah.
And then it's, it's, I don't know, it's silly.
That makes it far more likely that people are going to just go ahead and bet yes.
Right.
You tie up your money for a year.
Do you really want to do that?
And then the no value will increase as it's closer to the end of the year.
Here's another crazy thing.
I could buy shares of yes at 62 cents, go in front of the press briefing, take a picture of myself, and being like, it's on.
Then when it spikes to yes, 99%, I sell everything and then go home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Silly.
Silly, silly.
Anyway, sorry, brother.
I don't know.
Do you want to do you want to add anything to that?
I'm talking to Cauchy over here.
Well, yeah, I see that we should put a contract in whether you'll join local politics again, you know, because like I think there's a higher chance you might do that considering that you got a daughter.
I mean, a lot of times like people, they don't want to be involved over here, but we're the only people that are like standing in the gap.
And like I said, you don't have to do anything crazy.
Just like, I'm on my committee, for example, my local precinct committee.
I mean, that's an easy way to make sure that you have a say in whatever the state party is doing.
I can, for your registered volume, I'm assuming it's West Virginia.
But yeah, like I have a very, very powerful role and it's really being underutilized actually in LA County.
We barely got out of bankruptcy for our county party.
And we used to actually be bankrupt in Orange County next door.
They got a real beautiful political machine over there.
You just have to ask yourself, why is the county with the most Republicans have zero dollars in its bank account?
Well, that's by design by the CHOP.
And the Rhino is making money off us losing, probably, you know, colluding with Democrats.
Because I myself, I'm a brand new Republican, found all this out once I started joining politics after the lockdowns, the illegal lockdowns, mind you.
Yep.
I consider getting your feet wet, like just doing that.
I mean, you're already threatened to primary some people after all the business crap.
There's zero probability.
Find it, Cauchy, zero probability I do anything political.
Zero.
All right.
Well, I can only keep asking because it's zero.
It'll always be zero.
The amount of money required to maintain Timcast as a company requires me to do this job.
If I were to ever stop doing this job, it wouldn't just be that people lose their jobs.
It would be tax liens, levies, debt, lawsuits.
Like there is zero probability I go politics.
Zero.
That's fair.
Well, I don't want to make it sound like you actually have to step away from any of that.
There's no way for me to run this business working as much as I do and do politics.
It's impossible.
And yeah.
You could always assign one of the importance to be on the committee.
It is not possible for me to quit the job.
You know, I've talked about what happens if we can't maintain security costs, Timcast IRL, but I've always maintained like the morning show will still exist.
If I were to stop working completely, I'd end up probably in jail.
The amount of...
Don't do that.
Well, there's because for tax issues, right?
So property taxes, business taxes, like we have to keep paying all these costs.
You can't just stop.
It's just not possible.
No, of course not.
Which means if I ever decided to go into politics, I would stop.
There'd be no money.
And then the, let me put it like this.
If you own property and it falls in disrepair, you could be criminally charged.
And maintaining the properties, the buildings, and stuff that we have, if it fell into disrepair, you can be criminally charged as the owner.
Then, what would likely happen is they would seize it and, you know, I'd get arrested.
Then I would say, I'm destitute.
And they would say, well, good luck in your political campaign.
You just got arrested and you're destitute.
So anyway, 0%.
California robber gets, they can sue you if they get injured robbing your house.
So I get it.
But yeah, I got a couple of YouTubers over here that are running for office.
They were on Jubilee and whatnot.
So, I mean, I know I hear you're like the leader of us, basically, us, you know, brand new Republicans and whatnot, or even if you still independent, I don't even know what it says on your form.
Challenging Trans Ideology00:04:54
But yeah, dude, I really just appreciate you, you know, taking the call.
And like I said, I do have a pack and I'm not going to shout it out or anything that I can do that later.
But there is one dude that is like the leader on election integrity.
His name is Dr. Frank.
He talks about the Hava and all that other stuff that you pulled up and everything.
He travels on his own dime and stuff like that.
He's spoken at Trump rallies.
I consider him getting on the show, getting him on the show.
Cool, man.
Right on.
You want to shout anything out, brother?
Yeah.
Yeah, I definitely will shout out one of your Korean cousins, hopefully.
Shout out to Roof Korean.
He's my sensei and trains me and stuff like that.
So you, yeah, I mean, a lot of us know each other because you've kind of been on that way before.
But yeah, he's got a book coming out.
So I'll go ahead and shout.
Actually, Lisa.
There's no numbers on X right now.
Yeah, Lisa's talking.
Lisa's, or I'm trying to get him in touch with Lisa so he can come on the show.
Oh, well, I can help you with that considering he's my sensei.
He's literally my trainer.
So, yeah.
Whoa.
I need to DM you on X or something.
No, no, I mean, I'm in contact with him.
I'm trying to get him in contact with Lisa.
Okay.
Well, I'll tell him to call Lisa then.
All right, man.
Yeah.
Excellent.
All right, man.
Cool.
Thanks for calling in.
Absolutely.
All right.
Next up, we've got Olivia Dasevik.
Oh, what up?
What's up, Olivia?
What's up?
Hey, guys.
So, my question's for everybody.
So, the shooting in Canada comes amid other stories of trans violence, like the high school girl who was sexually assaulted during a wrestling match by a biological male, which she did not know she was wrestling at the time.
And of course, the assassination of Charlie.
How can we do something outside of just sharing these stories that'll actually change the minds of people that are promoting transgenderism, specifically for youth?
How can we do something?
Like, more than just sharing the stories.
Yeah, like what can we actually do to change the minds of people who are promoting transgenderism, especially transgenderism in kids?
I don't know that there's anything we can do aside from, you know, continue to like, because I mean, look, you can't change people's minds for them.
You know what I mean?
It's like you can sit there and you can put information out.
You can do your best to talk to detransitioners and make their stories public and stuff.
But as for like changing the minds of the people that have kind of committed to this ideology, I mean, I kind of feel like that's kind of a lost cause.
And nowadays, even though there's so many people that are actually starting to have a more sane view of transgenderism and specifically children That have been told that they're transgender or whatever, even though there's more of those people.
The people that have historically, you know, they've already transitioned, they've been living their life as the opposite sex, they have a lot of incentive to stay that way and to never admit that they think that they were wrong, right?
Because they've surrounded themselves by people that believe that transgenderism is a real thing and that it's legitimate and they believe that men can become women and vice versa.
And so convincing them, like that's almost, that's almost impossible because it's asking for more than just changing your mind.
They have to change their whole life.
If you have a mother that's fully committed to that ideology and her child transitioned, right?
She's not going to say, oh, well, you know, I was wrong.
That was a terrible thing for me to allow to happen to my child.
You know, she's going to be like, no, no, no, it was the right thing to do because my child would have killed themselves if I didn't or what have you.
No parent wants to think that they empowered their child to ruin their lives.
So the idea of getting people to change their minds is really, really hard.
It's better to continue to share these stories and try to reach people that haven't made up their mind and show them the reality of it so they can make an informed decision.
I would, just to add on that, you know, one thing that I've pushed for just in terms of a positive, like not on the conversion side, but one thing that people can do, but specifically on the violence side, is we need the announcement of a federal task force on studying trans violence, profiling trans violence, understanding what the, you know, the off-ramps are to this.
Gun Rights and Involuntary Commitment00:04:59
And certainly, you know, so look at it the way that we looked at serial killers in the past.
And when you would see these repeat offenders who would continue to, you know, or repeat instances, I should say, of this type of violence, where, you know, the profile seems to be very similar again and again.
And look, you know, we also have to have, I think, in this country, a serious conversation about whether or not, and, you know, Tim, I'd love to get your sense on this.
If people are taking HRT, if people are taking these hormones, you know, 5150.
Is this something where they could be, where they should be allowed to have full access to gun rights?
Well, the test is like, how do you process?
How do you deal with the tension there?
So if society codifies a law that states you can be stripped of your rights under certain circumstances.
Like 5150.
Right.
Then yes.
The founding fathers did not intend for people to be walking around with guns.
That is a modern misconception.
And I'm a two-way guy.
The founding fathers believed that everyone would have guns equipped and capable of being carried around, but the states would have the right to enforce the laws as they see fit.
But the federal government could not take their guns away.
The founding fathers envisioned that most people would have some kind of gun, but it's up to the states to decide.
In fact, it was very common that in many states, your guns were taken from you all the time.
In fact, in the 80s, almost every single state was a May-issue state, meaning you could barely get a permit for guns.
So the perception changed.
We federalized the country and we no longer value the rights of the states.
And the federal constitution now supersedes everything the states do, which was not the vision of the founding fathers.
But with the 5150 case, you're talking about involuntary commitment.
That is a case where, and you typically don't see national pushback to that.
I mean, we're winning on gun rights, you know.
No, no, no.
I think if you're on a mind-altering substance, then due process dictates you do not get to carry weapons.
Makes sense to me.
Yeah.
That's due process.
Yeah.
No, great question, though.
The challenge is the typical liberal view, which many conservatives held, the classically liberal view, is if we allow the government to take away our guns due to 5150, they'll make up reasons to 5150.
Right.
Indeed.
Raw exercise of power will always exist.
If your argument is that evil people will make up an excuse to take your rights from you, the truth is they will do it no matter what.
Yeah, typically, by the way, this is like in divorce cases, this comes up a lot, where you'll see, you will see a divorce lawyer.
Typically, it's the divorce lawyer for the female will go in and say, you need to file a restraining order right now.
You need to make these claims.
You need to say these things happened.
And then usually like the very next thing that happens is, oh, there's a PFA.
What do they do?
They take the guns.
And then it's very, very hard to get them back.
Right.
Yeah.
So, you know, as to your question, Olivia, I'm not sure there's a whole lot we can do to change minds, though.
So do you have anything you want to add or you have any follow-ups or anything?
I don't think so.
I'm working on a starting a YouTube channel, and I'm going to do a video.
I think one of my first ones is going to be about the epidemic of trans violence.
So thank you for all of your takes.
It's going to definitely be helpful.
And of course, for anyone that wants to watch that, if they follow me on X, it's just Olivia Dasevik, just my name.
But thank you guys so much.
Right on.
Thanks for calling in.
Thanks for calling in.
See you.
So I've been researching, and I do have a clarification.
Insider trading is illegal on Caul She.
It is a federal crime because Caul She is a regulated entity under, what is it, the Commodities and Exchange Act or something like that.
Polymarket is in a different space right now because the contracts aren't regulated under the same thing just yet.
But Caul She is wholly regulated and controlled.
Now, this presents a very, very interesting problem because this creates a regulated financial market without the control of the parties listed in the markets.
Whereas it used to be the financial markets where you're a company, you listed your public stock.
There are laws saying you can't make materially false statements that could influence the price of a financial market.
Now, hold on there, gosh darn fucking minute.
I never asked anybody to make a market about me, and I can say whatever the fuck I want.
So go fuck yourself.
If I want to say I am going or I'm not going to that event, I'll be damned if you're going to argue that my market manipulation and materially false statements are now regulated.
That means if I want to lie to people and say I am going, I was always allowed to do that.
If I want to lie and say I'm not going, I was allowed to do that.
But now that now that a market is involved, they can argue that's a crime.
And they can make up a reason saying you're trying to manipulate a market.
Fuck that noise.
That's bullshit.
That's wild.
I didn't realize that Cauchy was.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Josie's Grift Theory00:15:21
What is it?
Oh, no.
Uh-oh.
Oh.
Uh-oh.
Jack's smiling.
No.
No.
I'll show you.
You can decide what do you want to do with this.
What is this?
Is it a draft message?
No.
Huh?
What is it?
What?
Is it a tweet?
It's a tweet.
Oh, I see.
Who's it from?
What is it?
Oh, right.
Right.
Interesting.
I mean, you can just say it.
I don't know.
It's a tweet.
Okay.
Good.
All right.
Let's go to the next, what do we got?
We got Taylor Lorenz Epstein.
I can't read your full name.
It's too long.
I'm sorry.
Taylor Lorenz's Epstein Island Adventure.
Ah.
Nice.
How are you doing?
Hi, Phil.
Hi, Tim.
Jack, Tate Serge.
Hello, hello.
Tim, thank you for saying King Cobra tonight.
My polymarket payout is going to pay for my next surgery.
Amazing.
Awesome.
So kidding.
Anyway, so the new trans shooter is from Tumblr Ridge, living in a simulation confirmed.
Okay, but my call is actually not about the trans shooter.
For the panel, what are our thoughts on the new Discord policy changes coming up next month requiring a face scan to not have a restricted teen account?
We've built quite the impressive Timcast IRL expanded universe ecosystem here.
Will we be seeking safe harbor elsewhere?
Perhaps TeamSpeak, who seems to care about user privacy.
Does the panel feel this is a trend that will likely be adopted by all other social media platforms soon?
Thanks.
You know, a couple years ago, we told our team to start working on a private community chat thing, and it never got done.
I don't know why.
I have no idea what's going to happen, but this is crazy.
Yeah, I mean, it's basically the companies are looking for cover because there's so much illicit activity that's going on on Discord in so many different channels.
They're just looking for the ability to say, well, we've gone and done all of the things that we can do to prevent this.
We ban people when we see that they're saying things or doing things that are illegal.
We do our best to make sure that there's a limited version for teens.
For adults, we have all kinds of verifications, KYC stuff.
There's no your customer stuff.
So I think that that's going to be a lot of the internet in the future.
And I think that the reason that Discord's doing it is because there's been some high-profile cases where people have used Discord to communicate about criminal activity.
So as for what it's going to do for the Timcast Discord, I mean, I think most of the people in there are over 18, but whether or not they'll be comfortable with the face scan thing, that's going to be a personal decision as to whether or not.
Well, yeah, that's the thing because I definitely don't want my face attached to the Discords I'm in and the handles I run becoming public knowledge when inevitably they get hacked again.
Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of the question.
It's like they're demanding, you know, personal information, but they have no actual way to guarantee that it's not going to be hacked and made public or what have you.
So it's a really, it's a shit situation, to be honest with you.
Indeed.
So anything you want to add or follow up or anything?
No, I mean, I don't know.
I was wondering if you guys were talking about migrating to something else behind the scenes.
But again, what's the point if Team Speak and everything else does the same thing in six months or a year or whatever?
So you might just be a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And migration just means death.
Migrating tens of thousands of people is just never going to happen.
It's of course.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's not just you guys.
It's Romanation.
It's got skins, cancel culture, and, you know, all the other Discords I'm in.
Those are the ones I spend most of my time on.
But all right.
Shout out Romanation, my show with T-Bone.
Tuesday is 10.30 right after this show.
I think our episode on, oh, fuck, Smoking the Bandit was last night.
And Super Troopers coming up next week.
You can follow me on Twitter at TaylorTheRensEX for some unhinged tranny ranting.
Actually, it's mostly in the Fed ranting.
Awesome.
Thanks, guys.
Have a good night.
Thanks.
Have a good one.
I love this kind of rants.
It was a great rant.
All right.
And last but not least, we got Uncapped Turtle.
What is up?
I'm kind of nervous now.
After sitting here and listening to this, I feel like I might get impaneled to answer questions about what was discussed.
But my question is for the panel.
And it's based on the timeline I've been looking at in the past couple of days.
Why are so many influencers in our sphere just absolutely torching their credibility over the Epstein document dumps?
I mean, essentially, like half of my Twitter feed is, hey, this guy got name-dropped once in 40,000 pages as someone worth being looked at.
Prosecutors later found out they didn't have enough to charge him without a guaranteed loss in court, which would attach double jeopardy.
So that clearly means that Trump, Cash, and Pam Bondi are all protecting criminals.
Now, quick, like and retweet, get your pitchforks and torches, use promo code POSO.
Is it pure grift for the ex-payday, or are they just allergic to basic reality?
Yeah, so it's just that people are using, and we talked about this a little bit, it's just that people are using the Epstein files as a way to slime people they don't like.
Tony Hawk's in it.
Yeah.
And it's clearly bunk.
Yeah.
And they're like, people are like literally posting anonymous tips as if these are like fact.
My favorite line on this so far was, oh, Trump's in the Epstein files for calling the cops on Epstein.
Is there Calcio in the Epstein files?
Who's going to get asked?
Yeah, I think at this point, I think if you really want to go down the Epstein rabbit hole, I think Mike Benz is the best person to go down the hole with.
I think he's got a nail.
Absolutely.
He's got a nail.
He's got a nailed is that, you know, it's like all these people, they overlook the money stuff.
Yeah.
And like, whereas the money stuff probably was a much more prominent role than people want to admit.
Yeah, because if you watch Epstein's interview with Bannon, you realize he's not like a super hyper-intelligent guy.
Like he's just a very like total pseudo Redditor guy.
Redditor.
Literally.
Because he's like pseudo-intellectual.
Yeah, he's a pseudo-intellectual.
So she's just not a terribly impressive guy.
Another good resource, Pat Casey interviewed Michael Tracy.
And Michael Tracy, again, just kind of parsed through the Epstein files themselves.
And he's like, here's what's actually meat on the bone.
And here's what's just kind of useless.
So I would recommend that as well.
Beyond that, to your point, I mean, like, the majority of there's nothing new has been revealed.
Like, Podesta, everything Podesta revealed is pretty much what we still have to this day.
So, right.
Well, where's the pushback for those people?
I mean, some of it's kind of clear.
I'm not going to name names, but there's certain people who are all over the Lex, the Lex Wesner stuff, but they won't mention Bannon.
And I know why.
I mean, it's clear where they're getting some of their advertising dollars.
Yeah.
The Bannon stuff is like, what do you mean on Bannon?
Well, I mean, so there's a document early in an investigation that says these 12 people we think may be involved and we should look into them.
And a few of those people end up getting charged later.
And we're supposed to focus on that.
But then we've got Bannon who ends up on the outs with Trump when he gets fired and he's working with Epstein to make a documentary to kind of clean up his image.
And those people know both of these things.
And like I said, I don't want to throw anybody in the bus to put you guys on the spot.
And it's nobody that's on the panel tonight.
But you definitely interact with these people every day.
And I don't see anybody pushing back and saying, well, how is that different?
Just to clarify, I'm not understanding who you're criticizing or what you're criticizing.
Okay, so Some of our libertarian friends with a certain color hair, the entire feed is how Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are protecting these criminals because they're not because they're not charging this individual when we don't have evidence.
Are you talking about Lex Wexner?
Because we're not charging him.
Yes.
But I mean, so half their posts today are over why are these people, you know, these people are obviously clearly guilty of some crime.
Let's ignore the okay.
I got a pause.
I'll tell you the challenge is that what you're saying makes no sense to me.
I don't know who or what circumstance you're talking about.
I don't know what commentary it is.
You're all the challenge I'm having.
I'm not saying that you're, I'm not saying you have to.
I'm saying I don't know how to give you an answer.
I'm using that as an example of what's been going on for the two weeks.
There are people who are concerned about some other people with lack of evidence that should or should not be charged.
And why are those some people saying the thing that they said?
And I'm like, who said what about who?
I can't give you an answer on any of this unless I know what you're talking about.
Okay, Josie has spent half the day today saying, accusing Kash Patel and Pam Bondi and Trump of protecting this known criminal.
Who?
Wesner.
Because his name didn't get redacted or got redacted on one of 4,700 documents.
And that's what they ended up talking about with Matt.
That's the blow up between Massey and Bondi today on the Hill.
I don't know if you saw the video.
But where's her same complaints about all these other names?
Like who?
And I'll still see this.
Well, any of the other names.
It's clear that she's pushing it.
Any other name that's in there?
It's clear she's pushing.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Because that helps make it a lot of fun.
There are way too many names, and all the circumstances are very, very different.
Can you like, if my stance on the Lex Wexner thing was that Pam Bondi said within 40 minutes, they unredacted the name and they took care of it.
I criticized Massey for going so hard and saying he caught you red-handed.
I'm like, or like you just say thank you for doing that.
Next, like, of course.
Again, if the criticism is there, I don't know who else you're talking about.
No, no, no.
My point is.
Okay.
What, who else should they be criticizing?
Is it a comparable circumstance?
I don't know.
The Lex Wexner thing was his name is unredacted in 4,000 and redacted on one as a co-conspirator.
Massey said, I caught you red-handed, but within 40 minutes of being requested, they unredacted it.
Sounds to me like all it took was for you to say, hey, you missed this one.
And they went, K.
Now, is that comparable to another person?
Perhaps.
Which person are you referring to?
Well, I mean, she's taking that and expanding it to say Kash Patel needs to commit a perjury.
Well, okay, hold on a second.
Hold on, hold on.
I mean, if you want a specific example.
Hold on a second.
What you're doing is you're asking Tim to answer someone else.
And that's why I tried to be far more general because I wasn't trying to say, Tim, why don't you tell me why Josie's doing this?
But that's the substance of your stuff of your question here.
You're like, how come she hasn't been, or how come they're not being so critical of other people or not going after other people?
It's like, if you have a question for one of us, we can tell you.
And Tim just told you his take on it.
My point is.
Again, my main question is, is it that we follow a lot of influencers that mainly care about their payday on X?
No, this is.
There's a significant amount of our, or there's a significant amount of our movement.
I can't tell you.
I'm not understanding why somebody might not have.
Can't tell you why Josie is mad about one guy, but not insert random unnamed other person because unnamed other person circumstances have not been defined.
Josie is mad about thing, but not unnamed other thing.
What did Bennon do?
Bennon.
What did Bennon do?
Is he listed as a co-conspirator?
Is he listed as a co-conspirator?
Right.
And this is why I tried hard not to name anybody.
No, no, no, no, hold on.
Steve Bennon was not listed as a co-conspirator to crimes with Epstein.
The worst thing Bennon's accused of doing is a documentary with Epstein, being friendly with him.
There's no evidence that Bennon went to an island or raped children or did anything of that sort.
Lex Wexner was listed as a co-conspirator.
So if you're asking me why Josie is more active, he wasn't listed as a co-conspirator.
He was listed as a potential co-conspirator early in the investigation.
And if you're asking me why, and it's a very, very limited question, you're asking me why Josie is more concerned about a potential co-conspirator and not, the answer is Bennon is not.
Then that's not what I'm asking.
Again, okay, I'll boil it down to one sentence.
Is the majority of the people that we follow, the people here in here in the Discord, are they in it for the payday or are they trying, are they just unable to understand why somebody might be considered a potential co-conspirator early in an investigation?
They don't find the evidence, so they don't take it to court because then that attaches double jeopardy and it's a guaranteed loss.
And that would be what's actually what we're seeing in the document.
Okay, so the issue with what you're saying is you're accusing someone of financial impropriety or unscrupulous behavior for having a wrong opinion.
Well, which do you think is more likely?
And that's why I didn't want to name anybody individually.
I think it's more likely that Josie just needs to have the discussion.
Is the grift that that appeals to you?
See, again, you're poisoning the well by calling.
There's a lot of people that aren't.
You're poisoned the well by calling it a grift.
And also, you have to take into account that Josie's political leanings are going to make her fairly sympathetic to Thomas Massey and not so sympathetic to other people.
She's a libertarian.
She's historically been pretty pro-Massey.
So she's probably got a sympathetic opinion.
And the reason Massey's hammering so hard on Wexner is there's ties to the guy that Trump has endorsed to go against them and Wexner.
That's why he's pushing that so hard.
Cannot Speak for Others00:05:17
Maybe, but I mean, at the end of the day, like I said, it sounds like I wasn't trying to get into the weeds of this one.
And there's still much of it.
You're still asking us or Tim, what is this other person thinking?
Even if you're not talking about Josie, you said, yes, you said, you said, is it better?
But I don't mean one individual.
I mean the general atmosphere.
Those of us that don't do this for a living and don't receive our income from it may Understand the influence that's at play.
That's what I'm saying.
I think largely what's going on is you feel like someone should be saying things or you think they should be more critical of people and they're not.
That kind of sums it up.
No, it seems to me like everything that we were warned about in this document dump, that if we dumped millions of documents on the American populace, it would be used to create these massive mountains out of molehills because there's going to be documents of, hey, we heard this guy may have been at this place, but then when we went to investigate, we found he was on the other side of the globe at this other event.
So he definitely wasn't there.
But that document, that memo where they said, I heard this, let's look into it, now is being shown that one paragraph cut out of it out of any context that would never be allowed in a courtroom is being used to try and crucify random people.
And it seems like a big part of the conservative movement is glomming onto that because it's getting them views and clicks.
Yeah, okay.
I've seen enough of what they say to realize they're not that stupid.
Is that benefit there?
I think that the long and short of, at least as far as what we can say here, is if you're not talking about us, we can't speak for other people.
Maybe there are some people that are that have, you know, that are a little un have less scruples than the people sitting around the table here.
But I think asking us to speak for someone else, especially when it's something that's fairly obvious, that yes, there are different levels of commitment to integrity among different people because people are people.
There's a great conspiracy going on.
We're all internet, dude.
We all are.
So I guess the answer to your question is, well, some people have less commitment to integrity than others.
And I don't know who has more of a commitment to integrity than another person because I can't speak for them.
Right.
And I guess what I'm asking is just like you guys don't, you can't speak for the congressman you cover.
What's your opinion?
Do you think that that's influencing this?
I don't know.
I think, well, yeah, I mean, we just, I just said, yes, there are some people that I'm sure it's influencing.
Okay.
I think that's what the oracle that sees all, if that's what I'm coming across.
I'm generally supportive of Massey.
I made a video today lightly critical of both Massey and Bondi and lightly supportive of both.
I feel like they were talking past each other and it was needlessly acrimonious between both parties.
Raskin was defending Massey.
That's laughable.
But Bondi didn't need to be antagonistic and she had an opportunity because Massey was being antagonistic to actually win that and she fucked it up.
I think the Trump admins fucked up the Epstein stuff every step of the way.
It's annoying how bad the PR is.
Pam Bondi's opportunity was to say, I'm sorry you're upset, Congressman.
When you asked us to unredact the name, we did.
It was an oversight.
I'm sorry this happened.
Instead, she started yelling at him and called him a hypocrite and it just became fucking WWE.
At the same time, Thomas Massey shouldn't have said, I caught you red-handed because that's a presumption.
I mean, it's, hey, you didn't unredact his name.
He has a law license.
He should know the ethical violation he's making to make this claim that because there's a memo early in an investigation, that's the same as having enough to charge somebody.
What if it's not, though?
His point was that they didn't redact the names of victims who requested it, and they did redact the names of Lex Wexner, who was listed as a potential co-conspirator.
His point was.
But that's not the only point he's been making for the past week.
You're talking about one issue now.
Let's not change the subject.
If your complaint is about this one circumstance I can comment on, I will.
His complaint is that a list of names was given of victims that was not redacted, but the lawyer was, meaning they saw the email from the lawyer saying, please don't release these names.
And they chose to actually release the names in the same email, redact the lawyer's name, which is really weird.
At the same time, a document was released of Lex Wexner as a potential co-conspirator.
They chose to redact despite them not being not supposed to be doing that.
That's his complaint.
And I don't think he needed to be as angry when the point is he's literally oversight.
And his response should be, if I see you do something wrong, I'm going to make you fix it.
That should be the answer, not I caught you right-handed.
But I do got to stress, we are way over.
Redacted Complaints00:01:19
We got to go.
And I do appreciate the question.
I appreciate it too.
I think we went a different direction than I was trying to go, but I appreciate the call.
And Post, so thank you for the halftime show.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
Want to shout anything out, brother?
Sure.
I'm going to shout out the No Agenda podcast with Adam Curry and John C. DeVore.
The pod father.
20 years.
And I think you guys should bend over backwards to get Adam on the show.
I think it would be a wonderful, wonderful two to three hours.
And I think you'd be much happier just having spent the day with him.
Right on.
Awesome, man.
He's great.
I listen a lot.
Yeah.
Thanks for calling in, brother.
Appreciate it.
All right.
All right.
Jack, it's always a pleasure.
Good to see you back, man.
Anytime, anytime.
All right, everybody.
We're back, of course, tomorrow morning.
It's going to be great.
And we got big news.
We're going to be the skateboard podcast, which we piloted, is getting into production.
We're going to be filming tomorrow.
We're going to be doing a couple episodes a week.
It's generally going to be, it's called the skateboard podcast, but we're like, think ridiculousness.
We're going to be watching viral videos and commenting on this.
That's what was going on when I walked in, isn't it?
Downstairs, you can see all the stuff that we're getting ready.
Have you seen the new studio?
No.
We'll show you on the way out.
It's amazing.
So we'll be filming that tomorrow, and then it'll be up tomorrow at 10 p.m.