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Trump Threatens WAR WITH IRAN Over Unrest, US Warns Americans In Iran GET OUT NOW | Timcast IRL

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Iran Protests Escalate 00:03:04
tim pool
The unrest in Iran is getting really crazy, and it feels kind of like public sentiment is being mustered up for us to invade.
And so we're seeing a massive media campaign, and maybe it's organic.
I mean, what's going on in Iran is really crazy.
Protesters last week claiming to have taken control of two cities.
I mean, maybe not.
Maybe a bit exaggerated.
We've also got reports that the Iranian government has used live ammo on their protesters.
The Ayatollah may flee or be removed from power, but we don't actually know exactly what's happening because, to be honest, it's the other side of the planet.
That being said, with a violent crackdown, Donald Trump has warned, if they start shooting protesters, the U.S. will start shooting too.
Which sounds, I mean, to any reasonable person.
Trump's saying, we're going to war with you if you start killing your people.
Now, here's where it gets real interesting.
Today, the U.S. Embassy, the virtual embassy, warned U.S. citizens in Iran to GTFO.
Sounds like menus back on the war, baby.
So I hope you're all ready for whatever this turns into.
Now, following what happened in Venezuela, there's interesting reports about U.S. special weapons.
Maybe it's just a psyop.
But apparently, one of these collectivos in Venezuela said that the U.S. shut down all their technology.
Computers went down.
Radar went down.
Communications went down.
Blackhawks came in.
Dudes came out of helicopters.
A massive pulse, a sound weapon, knocked them out.
They felt intense pressure in their heads.
Their nose and ears were bleeding as they clutched their skulls.
I'm not exaggerating.
That's the story that's circulating from an interview with one of these collectivos.
So what is the U.S. preparing to do?
Now, they went after Venezuela largely for the oil, whatever anyone's saying.
It's largely for the oil because they were giving it to Iran, China, Russia, et cetera.
It seems like war is actually, well, we're actually preparing for war, but we'll see.
We'll see.
So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other stuff.
And then we get an interesting report from the New York Post.
This is where things get really interesting in the Minnesota story and our own civil unrest.
Renee Goode, who had reportedly been trained by IceWatch, it's now being uncovered that IceWatch actually trains individuals to assault federal officers, to physically attack them.
They have names for the techniques and the moves that they use against them.
Images have been released showing it would appear that this woman, Renee Goode, was actually trained to physically attack officers.
And I mean, the New York Post is reporting this.
They've got pictures that are going viral.
It sounds like whatever you might think about what this woman wanted to do, she was certainly prepared to attack federal agents.
And with the riots ongoing as of today, I guess that says a lot for those of us that are concerned about what this country is going to look like, considering the left doesn't seem to care at all.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else, we got DC Draino.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Thanks for having me, brother.
tate brown
Good to be back.
tim pool
It's been a while.
Indeed, who are you?
What do you do?
rogan dc draino ohandley
I'm a dude that talks smack about the government on the internet.
tim pool
He's always allowed.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Former lawyer and mostly on Instagram, Twitter.
tim pool
Right on.
We got Tate Brown holding it down.
Iran's Protests and War Concerns 00:15:38
tate brown
What is going on, Patriots?
Tate Brown, you're holding it down.
I'm happy to be here.
I think I could be a future lawyer.
I like arguing, but I've been told that there's more to law than that.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I actually don't like arguing.
So it takes all kinds.
The arguers generally do a little better.
tim pool
I like complaining.
Does that count?
Complain a lot.
tate brown
Be a lobbyist.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Mama didn't raise a quitter, but she did raise a complaint.
unidentified
Let's go.
tate brown
Phil's in the house.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Lebante.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the news from NBC.
Violent crackdown in Iran as Trump warns regime will start shooting if more protesters are killed.
The protests, which started out with economic grievances, have now morphed into one of the biggest challenges the Islamic Republic has faced in its 47-year history.
They say the fresh protests came as President Donald Trump again warned the regime that he would intervene if demonstrators were killed.
Quote, I tell the Iranian leaders, you better not start shooting because we'll start shooting too.
Iran's prosecutor General Mohammed Mavahedi Azad said Saturday that protesters would be considered an enemy of God.
A death penalty charge in Iran in remarks reported by Iran's semi-official Tasnim news agency.
The news agency also reported that 100 people had been arrested in Tehran province for disrupting public order and leading riots.
Now, we've got this from the Atlantic.
Is the Iranian regime about to collapse?
And there had been reports in the past week that the Ayatollah actually flee to either a secure bunker or even the country over the mass unrest.
And then we have this.
From today, new travel warning issued for U.S. citizens in Iran, leave now.
I don't know if that means we're gearing up for war with Iran, but I can certainly tell you there are powerful people in the United States that have wanted to go to war with Iran for just so long, and now they're all so close.
Well, I will say a few things before we get into this.
The first is, just because you see a protest on TV doesn't mean it actually is significant.
So we've got riots happening right now in Minnesota, and it is significant to a certain degree.
My point is, if you were to look at those riots in Minnesota and assume the entire country was on the verge of collapse because of that riot, well, I'd say you're being silly.
That being said, I think we can all recognize the political underpinnings of the riots in Minnesota do suggest there's a greater conflict happening in this country.
And that's what I would say equally about Iran.
I doubt these protests are literally millions of people rising up in revolution, but the protests do signify unrest.
I think it's fair to say the people of Iran largely do not like their government.
At least that's the perception from the outside.
Does that mean we should go in and invade and take over or start shooting?
I don't see a good argument, to be completely honest.
I mean, Trump's saying, if you shoot, we'll shoot.
I'm like, why?
There are a bunch of other countries we can do that in.
I guess, to be fair, Trump wanted to do that in Nigeria.
So maybe we are about to go to war with Iran.
tate brown
Yeah, well, the interesting thing about this batch of protests is like, I made the point on the show last week that Iran has protests fairly regularly.
They have these large mass protests, again, like clockwork pretty much every three to six months.
But the thing, and when this initially broke out, again, I was just like, okay, here's another round of protests.
You're going to see people coming out saying, well, there's blood in the water.
This time's different.
And then three weeks later, we won't hear about it again.
The interesting thing about this batch of protests is one, it was spurred by economic problems.
Like the Iranian currency is trading like 1.4 million to the US dollar.
Like their currency is completely caved in.
So when you have these protests in Iran, typically it's like the urban elite that are participating in the protests.
Typically it's like in Tehran.
Tehran is a fairly secular city relative to the region, largely.
But the interesting thing with this batch of protests is they're widespread from a variety of different ethnic groups.
They have protests in oil rigs, these sorts of things, which is interesting.
And then even in regime-heavy towns and cities, places that are typically pretty supportive of the regime, you're even seeing pretty large protests there.
Obviously, we saw the video of them burning a mosque because you have this strange thing happening in Iran right now where younger people are sort of reinvigorated.
They're developing an interest in Zoroastrianism.
So you're seeing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's an increasingly large proportion of the Zoomers in Iran.
And so you're seeing this real break from, again, tradition in Iran.
They are secularizing, liberalizing, whatever you want to call it.
But the question is, is this now for us?
Is it time for us to put our thumb on the scale or just kind of let this operate and see how far it goes?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the Vice Grad 24, which is a fairly reliable, not that I know a ton about them, but they tend to be fairly reliable.
They've been reporting for the past couple days that the numbers of killed could be in the thousands now.
I know that someone else was saying there's something like 538 confirmed.
If the United States actually is going to do something because the Iranians are being killed by their government, I do think that it's likely to happen soon.
You've heard stories of KC-130s moving into the region.
You hear stories of B-2s that are, I forget the island that they're stationed on, but they're in the region as well.
I don't imagine there will be actual troops on the ground, even though there's talk of some of the Delta guys moving into that way.
tim pool
Do we already have troops on the ground when we did that operation?
Their nuclear bunkers.
phil labonte
Well, I don't think that they had, I don't, not that I'm aware of it.
tate brown
I think they were launching like Leavenworth.
Like it was really just in the middle of the country, the United States.
And you told me they overbombed them, came back.
phil labonte
You're going to be twos.
tate brown
Oh, right.
phil labonte
Yeah, B2s.
I think they actually fly out of like they fly out of like Wyoming or something like that.
But anyways, the point being, like, you're until you see a carrier strike group in the area, I don't imagine that there's going to be significant ground troops.
You just don't have the logistical support.
tate brown
You can tell they're making a United States is certainly making a play here because the UK has been trying to give away the Chagos Islands.
So you're referring to Diego Garcia.
It's this massive base that was shared with the British.
It's off the coast of, or it's in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
And the British have been trying to give it away for quite literally no reason, like quite literally social justice reasons.
They even admit that.
It's legitimately for no reason.
They're giving this island to Mauritius.
And the Americans have now stepped in.
Like the Trump administration earlier had said, like, oh, this is kind of unacceptable.
But now we realize, like, hey, you're trying to give away Diego Garcia.
That's one of the most valuable military bases in the world.
Like, what are you doing?
We're going to step in and blow that deal up for them to basically give away their territory because we're like, hey, you know, we need to be putting pressure on the Iranian regime.
We're not going to let you just give away one of the most strategically important bases in the world.
phil labonte
Yeah.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I mean, I really hope we do not put troops in Iran.
I think this regime is on its kind of death rattle breaths here.
This seems like the most intense riots that they've had in their 47 years.
But I think this is something for the Iranian people to handle themselves.
It kind of looks like they got it.
Obviously, they are being killed.
It looks like at least 500, potentially up to thousands.
That's horrible, but I don't think that's a reason to justify our troops going in.
If anything, I'd be open to supplying them with arms through some type of neighboring country.
tim pool
But why?
What do they believe in and what do they want to do?
Like, why should we back anyone in this fight?
rogan dc draino ohandley
It's a tyrannical state sponsor of terrorism in multiple regions across the world, which we've been kind of suffocating them.
tim pool
Yeah, my question, though, is if we like, if we were to give these people weapons, like let's say it gets to that point, are we not like, is it possible we just create another big problem in the Middle East?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Potentially.
But if it results in the overthrow of this tyrannical regime, I mean, for just sending some weapons.
But again, I'm not saying we get involved at all.
I want as minimal involvement as possible.
I'd say let the Iranian people kind of figure this out on their own and agree like any other country.
There's going to be a body count.
There was in all great revolutions.
tate brown
This is going to be really enticing for the United States to want to get involved in because obviously the Shah, that's like what the protesters are citing.
They're putting up the flag with the lion.
Like clearly, they want to restore Iran to a pre-revolution state of being.
And the Shah, you know, Reza Pahlavi is Western-aligned.
He's, by many accounts, a Westerner himself.
So you would obviously install a very pro-Western government.
And Iran is really the last sort of bastion against this Abraham Accords coalition that's been built in the Middle East.
And if Iran goes down, all their proxies go down by extensions.
You're talking about Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis.
So again, the stakes here are actually very, very high.
You really are talking about for the United States, this is the most enticing possibility for, again, peace in the Middle East probably won't happen.
tim pool
Oh, I'm getting a call real quick.
unidentified
Hold on a second.
Hello?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
tim pool
I'm pro-war with Iran.
Yeah, we got, you know, I got a call just now.
Turns out I actually was wrong about everything.
Iran's got to go and send the troops.
Just whatever we got to do to get them out of there.
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tim pool
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You know, I look at these protests, and it's funny because we've got these mass riots happening in the U.S. right now.
And the first thing I think is, I don't want to fall for this game of I see a picture of a protest and I'm like, oh, the poor Iranians, you know, like, oh, we have to help them.
No, I don't care.
Like, look, you show me a protest of something happening in Uzbekistan or Ukraine.
I'm just like, I'm not there.
I don't care.
Like, people have to solve these things on their own, their own problems.
I look at what's going on here.
I look what's going on there.
And the question is not about protest because what we end up wrapped up in, especially with these riots in the United States and the culture war, is a question over: should someone be allowed to engage in civil unrest?
With a great example of the bifurcation being like Ashley Babbitt and Renee Good.
And that's what the liberals have tried using as to claim hypocrisy on the right.
And I'm like, well, I mean, Ashley Babbitt wasn't engaging in any degree of violence, and she stepped up on a trim to look through a window and got shot in the face.
That's very different from Renee Good, who was behind the wheel of a car obstructing, was trained to assault officers and then tried fleeing and struck an officer with their vehicle.
That being said, if you commit a crime, you're responsible for what happens after that to a great degree.
With Ashley Babbitt, I actually agree, and I respect that.
I'm not going to play any stupid games.
That being said, did Ashley Babbitt know she was committing a crime?
Was she committing a violent crime or was she walking around a public building?
So, those are the questions that you have in that scenario.
Whereas with the Renee Good, you have a woman behind the wheel of a car attempting to flee two felonies, which is very, very, very different.
But ultimately, it comes down to this: these arguments about hypocrisy are completely meaningless to me because ideology is different.
If I say something like, I think that people should have the right to keep in bare arms, and then some leftist goes, Okay, so we're going to go give a bunch of Islamic terrorists and far-left Antifa guys guns.
Some people will say, Well, you know, you always had a right to keep in bare arms.
And if you were to say, No, you can't have them, I don't view that as hypocritical as much as I view it as ideological.
And that can come from a conservative or a liberal.
And then the question is: which ideology is better, which moral framework is better?
And to put it simply, if a criminal believes he has a right to take from you and destroy your life and kill your family, we don't let them have guns.
We say you have been adjudicated as such and you can't have your gun.
So there is a worldview and moral framework a person could have that disqualifies them from what we would describe as the right to keep in bear arms.
The point I'm ultimately making is the most rudimentary view of all of this is the Iranian regime is garbage.
Their government is trash.
And so we're more inclined to support the protesters who want to stop their trash government.
Our protesters are trash and we want to stop them.
So the point is, you look at Venezuela.
That's a government of trash.
That is, what did Javier Millet call them?
You know, it's a Mer de left or whatever.
How do you say left in Spanish?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Dereche.
No, Esquier.
unidentified
Esquierda.
tim pool
Esquierda.
Yeah.
What do you say?
Esquierda Merde or whatever?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Esquira de la Esquierda.
unidentified
Something like that.
phil labonte
I don't speak any Spanish.
I have no idea.
tim pool
Yeah, he said something like that.
You can't give him anything because they'll take it.
So you look at what happens in Minnesota.
These people running around like lunatics attacking ICE.
I mean, the riots have gotten absolutely insane.
They're ramming, like there's a video allegedly of a ramming of an ICE vehicle and they jump out.
A guy saying everyone's got to go get guns, start killing these people.
And I'm like, yeah, we don't want those people in government.
I don't care about their quote-unquote free speech.
When they go out and they say they want to get guns, start murdering federal agents.
That's not free speech.
Okay.
You want to go into China?
You want to give out leaflets and books?
You go ahead and do that.
Ideology matters, right?
So a government like that turns into Venezuela.
Not good.
Not good.
And so that, you know, basically, this idea of the protesters are good and the government is always bad is the stupidest thing ever.
And that's the game that the liberals try to play with this one.
So whether or not we get involved with Iran is a different thing, but I'm just saying, I guess my final thought, don't get wrapped up in propaganda trying to convince you that the entirety of Iran is in revolution, as people are trying to claim.
Israel's got major interests in the collapse of the Iranian government and the U.S. involvement there.
So you're going to see pressure campaigns, PR campaigns, and activists trying to claim as such.
There's obviously U.S. interests in the collapse of the Iranian regime, but I think they're protests.
I doubt they're the biggest protests they've ever faced, and we'll see what happens.
But that's what it is.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Arab Spring worked out pretty well for the protesters, and we didn't need to get involved militarily.
Took over Egypt in 2011, overthrew a dictator.
So again, I hope the Iranian people take care of this themselves.
I believe they can.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
Renee Good's Minnesota Ice Watch group shared manual detailing how to fight arrests and launch a micro intifada.
Yeah, actually, when you look at the images, it's not just to fight ISIS to physically attack them, which you can see here the man is doing, and this person is doing.
They are physically attacking federal law enforcement.
Now, she was trained by them.
And what's actually really revealing by this, New York Post already reported she was trained by Ice Watch.
Ice Watch instructs people on how to physically assault officers.
And now, you've got a question over, I guess, intent and state of mind.
If this ever were to go to court, I got to tell you, I don't see a reality where this guy can be prosecuted.
Even Stephen A. Smith calls Minnesota ICE shooting completely justified from a lawful perspective.
And that was last week he says this.
So what happens if you go before a jury and you say, this one was trained by Ice Watch to physically assault officers?
De-Arrest Tactics 00:15:51
tim pool
They're going to say, okay, I mean, does that not show a willingness to do it?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Yeah.
Is that not terrorism?
unidentified
Yeah.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Using physical violence to make political movements move forward.
I mean, that's terrorism.
They're instructing people to commit felonies.
Obstruction of federal aid.
I mean, look at the diagrams.
It's.
tim pool
Yeah, that's wild.
De-arrest is a shaking off, which is, and this is why they all wear masks and they all look identical.
That way, after you de-arrest a person, they can't identify who they were trying to arrest.
phil labonte
I mean, sometimes they still can in some way or another, but you know, look, the federal government sending a thousand more ICE agents and DHS agents to Minneapolis, that's the correct response.
Like, that is the, there should be more police officers.
There should be, because, well, not police officers, but more federal agents, because the local police aren't helping.
There were riots all weekend, and the local police weren't doing anything to stop it.
You know, people are being assaulted because they're trying to film right-wingers.
Nick Shirley, I think, Cam Higby, Nick Sortor was assaulted.
So the only option you have is to send in more reinforcements, more federal agents.
It shouldn't be to actually violate people's rights, but there are plenty of people breaking the law.
And all those people that are breaking the law that are violent, all of them should be put in jail.
And the more of them you put in jail, the less of this behavior you'll get.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, that's why it's kind of imperative.
And the Trump administration is doing a good job.
Obviously, after the Nick Shirley video, when they flooded in those 3,000 DHS agents, that was the correct decision.
Because I think this is going to define the rest of the Trump administration, what happens last week and then in these next following weeks is because they absolutely have to set the tone here.
There's no question about it.
This is where these leftist agitators will figure out if they're allowed to operate with impunity or not.
And it's quite literally, if you give them an inch, they will take a mile to the next one.
tim pool
They believe they're going to.
No one's going to stop them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like the feds aren't going to do anything about it.
phil labonte
I wouldn't.
They're sending in, you know, like I said, 3,000 now.
Is it 3,000 plus an additional?
tim pool
No, an additional thousand, I believe.
tate brown
Yeah, and they are picking up any, like, they can't arrest anyone for no reason.
They're picking up people that are committing crimes at the smallest level.
Like, they are getting very tit for tat right now.
tim pool
Well, I'll give them that.
I'll give them that.
The riots have been crazy.
They've been erupting all day.
I don't know if I think I might have a video.
We'll play this video after this one.
That one's a different video.
But we've had riots all day, and it's pretty nuts what we're seeing.
I don't know if I actually have some of these pulled up.
Yeah, check this out.
This is Minnesota today.
Tear gas deployed.
So apparently what happens is people are stalking these ICE vehicles.
And so they just like stop, throw out tear gas, and then keep going.
unidentified
There's agents in there for the Dodge Carolina here.
Let's jump ahead.
What had happened up here?
Some asshole jumped out and tried to.
All right.
Doesn't really seem like much of anything happened.
tim pool
I guess the reporting is that they're being stopped, so they threw tear gas at them.
But I guess we don't see it in this video.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know either.
But like, that's that's a mild response, right?
Throwing tear gas out, so that way the people get away from the car.
That is not some kind of heavy-handed response.
It's like, just get out of here, you know, deterrence, those kind of things.
Like, that is perfectly legitimate.
tate brown
And they're, and they're able to go to this level without zero correspondence whatsoever with the local government.
Because at least during the summer of love, they would establish curfews.
They would, you know, issue these orders where you can't go to these certain blocks or whatever.
This is not happening.
This is literally the feds right now operating completely alone.
So the fact that they're able to conduct operations at this level shows a massive difference in how they're approaching this versus 2020.
tim pool
Civil war.
phil labonte
I mean, it's not a surprise that.
tim pool
Did you see the head of the Philadelphia Sheriff's Department say this is not real law enforcement and they're going to arrest them, charge them?
phil labonte
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
tim pool
What is a civil war?
Civil war is when one or more factions is fighting control of a territory or government.
And we're at the point now where confidence is shattered in Minnesota.
The fact that ICE driving down the street is being hounded and harassed, they're being treated like an occupying force.
These people are making up fake rules, but it doesn't matter because if they believe it, that's the system of government they will follow.
So they say things like, ICE doesn't have legal authority to stop or arrest a U.S. citizen.
They made that up.
But that's the law they're going to follow, the one they made up.
Because what you run on paper doesn't matter if people tell you you're lying and they don't believe what's on your paper.
So they've made up this weird reality where ICE can't stop Americans, and that's justification for what they're doing.
And you've got people driving in from all across the country to Minnesota to effectively engage in conflict with the federal government.
Then you've got local government from the mayor and the governor up to the governor saying ICE is illegitimate and they need to leave and defending the citizens.
And you've got, I think it's in Seattle, they're calling on citizens to join the ICE watch groups or the ICE trackers or whatever.
The states at the governmental level are lining up against the federal government.
Okay, call it whatever you want, but this only goes one direction.
When more millennials and Zumer start getting into office, they're going to ramp things up.
And we have seen this from every single liberal personality saying when Democrats get power, they are going to politically massacre the right.
They said they're going to arrest Elon Musk.
What was that?
Who was it?
That was Media Hassan.
So the next Democrat needs to campaign prosecuting Elon Musk.
And he didn't say for what?
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because Elon Musk didn't do anything illegal.
They're just saying, show trials, kangaroo courts, punish our enemies.
And the frail and dainty Republicans say, well, geez, slow down there, Democrats.
And then welcome to the modern era.
So I got to say, sorry if I'm pessimistic, but I know it's like being a dead horse at this point, but getting shot at in the past month and seeing all the violence that we've seen that's escalated.
And then to see the right is just basically fighting itself.
I'm fairly worried.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I mean, you have good reason to be.
I'll provide the optimistic perspective.
I think we had far worse riots in LA initially four or five months ago, and those were calmed down drastically.
And we're still engaging in massive deportation operations there.
I think Minnesota, although it's a little bit intense right now, things are going to stop sooner than we think or at least calm down.
A, I don't think these groups are maybe as big as people think.
You know, there's a few demonstrations maybe on the weekend, but it's freezing out there in Minnesota.
You also got a bunch of old white liberal hippies.
And also, I just saw Jacob Frey, the Minneapolis mayor, he put out a statement saying, listen, like business owners are starting to complain.
People want to get back to their normal lives.
We can't keep doing this.
So you're going to start to get a backlash from the normal people who actually pull some strings in Minneapolis to say, get your stuff in order here so that we can start making money again.
Otherwise, we're going to draw you out.
tim pool
I'm also hoping that the reaction to the shooting of Renee Goode is that leftists stop trying to commit felonies against the federal law enforcement because it goes sideways quickly.
tate brown
Yeah, there's two components.
I mean, because with the LA riots, I mean, the big differentiator between the LA riots and these current ones we're seeing is the LA riots were like exclusively ethnic riots.
Like they were like Mexican nationalists basically advocating for California to be reclaimed by Mexico or whatever versus these.
This is just people that are defending Somalis for some reason.
And the only thing that really they have in common is that they're just against Trump, but there's not like any deeper.
phil labonte
They're against the West, too, though.
tate brown
They're against the West, but there's not like a deep connection to any of these people.
These are all like completely disaffected, like freaks for the most part.
It's really hard to keep those people motivated because, like, like Tim said, I think that's actually a really good point.
Is when they realize, like, oh, there's consequences for like running an ICE officers, maybe I'll tone it down a little bit.
Maybe that'll be a little bit of a disincentive to just like completely chimp out every time you're in public.
phil labonte
You think so?
tate brown
I think so.
I really do.
I think a lot of these people maybe are ideologues, but I think a lot of these people are cowards and they do realize, like, oh, you could die.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I think that just the fact that they're handing out, you know, the material showing people how to interfere with ICE, how to basically push back against the government when they're trying to perform their lawful duties.
I think that there's more people than you're, than probably more than you think at least, that are there that are committed that really want to do this.
I mean, look, it's January, right?
It's not a surprise to see people out in the streets getting buck wild in June, right?
Because it's warm.
There's not a lot of, you know, you've got nothing to do or what have you.
They'll go out and they'll get wild.
In January, you really do need to have people that are at least interested in what's going on beyond, hey, I've got nothing else to do tonight.
You know, it's like, it's cold out there.
I mean, I know it's been, it hasn't been super cold.
I think it was in the 40s, like guys in the 40s, but at night it's cold and that tends to deter people that are just casuals.
tim pool
I want to show y'all what we are up against.
We have this post from Cassandra McDonald's at Cassandra Rules and X.
This lady is crying on TikTok because she has kids at home and is going to harass ICE officers.
She does it anyway.
Got to get those social media brownie points completely broken compass.
What is wrong with these women?
So here's the video.
unidentified
I don't care what this song.
tim pool
Okay.
It says, the moment I realized I was in the same situation Renee Goode was in, heading to report ICE and I could potentially never see my kids again and she's crying on camera.
5150.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Psychotic.
tim pool
5150.
We had this debate last week and we were talking about, you know, rights and all of that stuff.
And I pointed out to this liberal that there are mechanisms in this country where people can be detained without a jury trial as American citizens because they keep saying this thing like due process.
Their due process rights were violated.
No, Due process literally just means the legal process that is due to you when you are facing some kind of proceeding.
And that means if like this woman, you should be 5150'd, you don't go to court.
There's no jury.
They just show up and take you.
And then you can file for the courts after the fact, but you're not going to get jury trial before they lock you up.
And for those who don't know, 5150, it means, typically it refers to forcefully detaining someone because they're a threat to themselves or others.
This woman should, well, I'm assuming she's lying about this.
It's performative social media garbage.
How much you want to bet she's driving to the supermarket, fake crocodile cried, turned the camera off, went to the market, bought some bags and went home.
Like she didn't actually even go anywhere.
I'm saying the people who actually do this stuff, like abandon their kids to go obstruct federal law enforcement and commit felonies, should have their kids taken away and be 5150.
Come at me, bro.
tate brown
Literally.
Lip tards will literally cry because they're not allowed to hit ICIS with their car anymore.
Sorry, that's the new standard, I guess.
phil labonte
I mean, look, the idea that if you're emotionally moved to the point of tears, but you're still going to go to mess with legitimate law enforcement.
unidentified
Brave resistance.
phil labonte
Dude, give me a break.
tate brown
Dude, she is what's standing between you and a total fascist takeover of America, dude.
If it weren't for her bravely going to Sprouts and the Spanish.
phil labonte
Dude, Karen.
tate brown
Literally, dude, we would be living in the gulag.
We'd all be in gulags.
We're this brave warrior.
tim pool
What is this?
tate brown
What is this warrior?
tim pool
What are the supermarket chains in Minneapolis?
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
Because out here until you got public.
I can't see that.
tate brown
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if I can do it.
I'm not good at that.
Yeah, this is just.
These people literally cry and put their life on the line to defend people that like they got exposed for scamming.
And that's what we're punishing for.
They will literally die for it.
tim pool
What really scares me is: did you guys see the story about the DMT laser thing?
Where like they, this guy put a laser on a wall and then did a hallucinogenic drug and saw code in the wall and then invited a bunch of people to do it and they all saw code in the wall.
And instead of just being like, maybe drugs make you hallucinate, he went, the matrix is real.
tate brown
So true.
tim pool
Well, I love that story.
And I got to admit it, the most convincing thing about that.
Look, I'm going to say it again.
When a bunch of dudes do drugs and then go, I see weird stuff.
I'm like, yeah, you're doing drugs.
phil labonte
Drugs do that.
tim pool
Then they go, yeah, but I saw code, man.
Like, we're in a simulation.
I say, that is not convincing.
What is convincing are the NPCs?
These people who like are vapid, empty husks of a being who seem to have no inner monologue or thought process as they mindily drone about like innkeepers in Chrono Trigger.
Or are there innkeepers in Chronology?
Yeah, there are.
Of course there are.
Final Fantasy, we'll go with that when you got innkeepers in that game.
rogan dc draino ohandley
The brainwashing is so strong.
She'll leave her own children to go defend Somalian scammers that are hijacking $700 million in suitcases out of the game.
tim pool
No, no, yes.
But what I'm saying is this proves we're in a simulation.
She's a non-playing character and she's going beep, beep, beep.
tate brown
Right.
It's a weird character.
They did an update and it ruined their code.
tim pool
That's what Mandela effects are.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
When they update, they patch and it like corrupts old data.
tate brown
Did you all see that woman's tweet where it had like 20,000 likes and she was basically just describing how she's afraid of like being forcibly taken advantage of by an ice agent?
Everyone's like, this is the middle-aged women are not okay because they are all like having fantasies about.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You're saying there's like a middle-aged woman and she was like, I'm scared an ICE agent will rape her.
tate brown
Yes.
tim pool
Do you see the other video?
Who posted this where they were like, I think the real, some woman, she's like, I think the real reason all these middle-aged white women are chasing ice agents around is because they're hot, hot boxers.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
unidentified
No, for real.
Yeah.
tim pool
But I'm not playing.
I think that's true.
There was this viral post on Reddit years ago.
I think we talked about it on the show where it was this woman and she was like, I'm a liberal activist.
I'm like a 30-year-old woman.
And I just fantasize about like a tall, ripped guy in a MAGA hat just taking me.
And it's like, you see, look, women want strong men, and there's no strong liberal men.
tate brown
So true.
tim pool
They're not.
They voted for Justin Trudeau because he did that yoga pose on the table.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
And they were like, just give me a strong man.
Do you guys know what shit testing is?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
You've heard that term from like the manosphere or right?
I don't know.
Basically, the idea is that women will complain as a test to the man to see if he's strong enough to tell her to shut up.
tate brown
So true.
tim pool
That's figure.
That's basically how people have interpreted it.
The general idea is that, or let's make it academic.
Women who did not put pressure on their man throughout human history were less likely to survive because the men were less likely to perform at a higher level.
Men who were pressured by women but strong and who stood up and got the job done were more likely to survive, creating a social dynamic where women are always going to be, they're likely to be at a slight negative.
Something is always going to be wrong.
Liberal Women's Pressure 00:15:15
tim pool
And the way I described it was: if you are a woman in a cave and Ugg comes home from work and he has but one fish and you say, Ugh, bring one fish, me need two fish.
I'll go, oh, fine, me, Ugg, go get two fish.
Guess what?
They got extra food.
They're going to survive better than the other cave where the wife says to Grog, oh, grog, okay, one fish.
Me love grog.
And then they hug.
So the women that were like, do more.
You're not doing enough, we're more likely to have successful surviving families because they put pressure on the men.
I think this is a component of what we're seeing, but it's at a macro scale.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
So these middle-aged liberal women are chasing around ICE agents, yelling at them.
But I think, and I'm not, obviously, I'm not saying all women are like this.
I'm not saying every single, all the liberal women are going to get so angry.
I'm saying this.
No, I'm saying there is a psychological component for some women where they're looking at these strong guys who are going to stare them in the face and say, shut your mouth.
And they like it.
tate brown
Oh, they're getting feral.
This is what I've maintained this position.
This is a very serious political position.
Everyone needs to hear me when I say this.
This is just objectively true.
You can't debate.
Femme are the biggest threat to the Republic right now.
Femme, you've heard of these?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Femme is like, because they do one of two things.
They either just start corny posting on Twitter or they run into ice agents with their car.
That's like they're the biggest issue.
You see this woman?
Completely unhinged.
rogan dc draino ohandley
So I thought it was the awful affluent white female urban liberal.
tate brown
No, these are femme's for sure.
I know them when I see them.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I can kind of smell them.
tate brown
It's like a pheromone.
rogan dc draino ohandley
There's a good mix of Karens in there, too.
tate brown
There's some Karens.
You know, I'm actually, I'm a Karen defender.
I'm a big Karen defender.
Big time.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown
That's a whole nother.
I could defend that too.
I could go on a tangent about why I'm like pro-Karen.
phil labonte
I don't want maybe after the show.
tate brown
Yeah, we could do after in private.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Yeah.
tate brown
I don't think I want cameras going when I explain why it gets very racial.
rogan dc draino ohandley
But wait, what would you describe Renee Good and her wife?
That doesn't necessarily fit the strong man.
phil labonte
Well, she doesn't have a man.
That's why she needed to push the ice agents because she doesn't have a man to shoot.
tate brown
And they'd have a Subaru, so they got really antsy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
She probably didn't have a wallet either.
phil labonte
It wasn't a Jeep Liberty, was it?
tate brown
No, it was like a compass or something.
phil labonte
Yeah, something like that.
rogan dc draino ohandley
It was a car choosing, Honda Pilot.
tate brown
It was a Honda Pilot.
Oh, that is.
No, that is kind of.
If you have a Honda Pilot out there, you might want to trade it in.
No, it's true.
There is like a weird feral component with these HUDs.
tim pool
But it is, I think it's important to point out and fair to point out that there is a bifurcation in the psyche of or in the social order that women are experiencing in this country, liberal women.
And that is you cannot be socially accepted if you're with a conservative guy.
He's a Nazi, he's a fascist.
So, of course, there are, I think the majority of circumstances are where liberal women will refuse to date a conservative guy.
The ultimate point here is the psychological argument is that many of these women would prefer to date a strong masculine man who's going to tell them no and who's going to choose to do something aggressive.
There was another funny post that was viral on X where I can't remember who it was.
They said on a leftist forum, somebody was asked to name a good male role model.
Who would you think is a good one?
You guys see this one?
And guess who they chose?
Who was the top post for, can you name a strong male role model on the left?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Tim Waltz.
tim pool
Aragorn.
unidentified
Yeah.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Who?
tim pool
Aragorn.
You know, the fictional character from Lord of the Rings.
Uh-huh.
And it was like, you, you can't, because to liberals, men are always bad.
Like, that's the liberals, the liberal orthodoxy.
Men are bad and privileged.
So in order to get a perfect man, he has to not exist.
And that's what we're dealing with.
But that being said, I think psychologically, like this lady crying, I think it's fair to say that all these middle-aged liberal women are hunting down ice agents because they want to be around them.
tate brown
Yeah, Ice Tracker is like a dating app for them.
tim pool
Like, look at this right here.
Look at this other video from Cassandra.
It says, this guy was so into himself.
Let's give him the appropriate attention he deserves.
No, no, no.
unidentified
Hold on.
Hold on.
tim pool
Let's think two seconds about what that actually means.
Let's give this, let's give him the appropriate attention he deserves.
There's an ice agent.
He's tall, no mask on.
He fears no man or woman, and they're filming him and yelling at him.
Now, why?
Why this one guy?
And why does he deserve attention?
Let's stop for a second and ignore the political context.
What would you think if there was a guy standing on a street corner looking around and he was like a law enforcement guy, and a lady was pointing the camera at him saying, Let's all give him the attention he deserves.
You'd imagine she's into it.
You're like, wow, man.
She's posting this, being like, look at this guy.
Oh my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
No, it's true.
Yeah, it's like it's like free game for all the fellas out there.
Just sign up for no, yeah, it's a total, it's a total issue.
Sorry, liberal men, the race.
tim pool
It's the modern Romeo and Juliet.
tate brown
It's so true.
Sorry, the liberal men, the racially insensitive podcasters always get the girl.
There's not much that can be done.
tim pool
Racially insensitive.
unidentified
Yeah, excuse me.
tim pool
We got to pull up this next video right here.
Wait, where did it go?
Here we go.
This one is being called FAFO.
And this is really important.
This is really important.
A video going viral showing a dude with an American flag.
I'm assuming this is Minnesota, right?
phil labonte
I think so.
I don't know.
tim pool
And when he gets attacked by leftists, he first tries to back off.
This is what it means to be a man.
You don't choose the fights.
You do everything you can to avoid the fights.
The fight you avoid is the fight you win.
And trust me, man, I've told this story before.
I remember when I was a kid, these two guys were at a party.
This was at a well, I'll keep the details light because it's, you know, I guess it's like the biggest story in the world.
But there were two guys.
There was a party, and one guy had words with the other guy's wife.
He like was hitting on her.
So it's been 30 years, but like I think what happened was the husband swung at the other guy who was hitting on his wife.
The guy hitting on the wife then punched the husband, who fell back, hit his head on a desk, and died instantly.
And so a stupid sentence and two seconds, a man is dead, and the other guy went to prison for murder.
And he got murdered because he initiated a fight and then killed a guy and he got charged for it.
That's why you avoid the fight.
That being said, sometimes you can't.
And self-defense was always allowed.
All right, so for those that are just listening, guy in the American flag is being harassed by some leftists.
Let me just say this too.
He's pushing a bullhorn into the guy's ear.
That's assault and battery.
That could damage your eardrums.
And the dude with the American flag is just trying to leave.
He's just pushing him away.
He's trying to leave.
unidentified
And he's getting followed around.
And it's all about to break down.
rogan dc draino ohandley
He's taking it right in his ear.
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
The guy's trying to get away from us.
rogan dc draino ohandley
He's trying to avoid fighting.
phil labonte
It's assault.
tim pool
Boom.
unidentified
Out.
tim pool
Knocks him out.
unidentified
That's why.
tim pool
White breaks out, knocks him out.
He can.
Now he flees.
Now, no, hold on.
He's fleeing again.
rogan dc draino ohandley
He's backing up.
tim pool
He's backing up the whole time.
unidentified
Even in a duty channel.
tim pool
He's not all blowing whistles.
And he's backing up the whole time.
phil labonte
Now, this is the dude that got smacked up at him.
unidentified
Knocks him down.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Another guy down.
tim pool
Now watch the guy in the red.
phil labonte
This is his second time, too.
unidentified
Crunch.
Gone.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I count at least four.
tim pool
The important thing I want to stress, and I'm going to say it: don't go looking for fights.
The important thing is, this dude tried avoiding the fight the whole time, and he was backing away.
And they would not stop assaulting him.
And so, Fafo.
phil labonte
Yep.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Even in a liberal blue state where you have a duty to attempt a retreat, like Florida's a stand-your-ground state, other states.
He complied with that.
He reasonably retreated the entire time in a way that was reasonable without him turning his back and getting drunk.
tim pool
These people could have just not attacked him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So this is the important thing to understand.
Like y'all saw the video.
I mean, if you're just listening to the show, you didn't see the video, but y'all watched the video.
We just played it.
And you know, we are attempting to be reasonable.
There are certainly people on the right that are like, go teach him a lesson.
Yeah, get him, get him.
But we're not watching that happen.
The right isn't going out.
Nick Sortor didn't show up to Minnesota and start physically attacking people.
He would have started filming what was going on, saying people should know what's happening here.
So what did they do?
They physically attacked him for it.
And then he flees and they still try to kill him.
I don't know if you guys saw the video.
They're throwing frozen water bottles at the car.
They're spray painting it.
And then when he tries to flee, they jump on his car and another car tries to box him in.
He tries calling the, then the police detain him.
He gets detained.
I'm warning you, you guys.
The divide is real.
And we are probably a couple of years out.
We've already heard local law enforcement say the federal government's illegitimate.
We've already seen, I mean, what Nick Sortor got arrested in the Pacific Northwest, attacked here, and the police won't help him.
You are an enemy ideologue in those states.
And you think you can call the police because you think you're in America, but you are in the multicultural states of America and you are from the Constitutional Republic of America and they view you as an enemy.
So this, I wouldn't be surprised if this dude, they're going to charge him.
phil labonte
Man, I mean, I can't say that I totally disagree, but that is very demoralizing.
The idea that you can be attacked.
You know, obviously the dude was trying to do everything he could to screw up his hearing and cause him as much pain as he could without touching him.
tim pool
No, he was touching him.
Well, he's making physical contact with his face.
Like, that's assault and battery.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like, I mean, I wouldn't argue that that was in any way legitimate, but the point I'm making is like he is clearly defending himself and to get, you know, from multiple people, multiple attackers, and to get arrested for that.
That's just totally didn't.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Textbook self-defense, in my opinion.
I think even in that city, it depends on what part of the region they're in.
You could get a decently fair jury.
I mean, Kyle Rittenhouse got off, you know.
I mean, you can still.
And I would say a lot of this anti-Americanism, it's really in their major cities.
If you go to the rural areas of Oregon, of Minnesota, it is Trump country.
And so it's really just these cities.
And frankly, these cities have just such rigged elections.
You've got, like I said, $700 million in Somalian suitcases going out of the country, billions more stolen and laundered.
What do you think they're doing to the ballots in the elections?
I mean, money is a lot harder to steal than votes.
Votes you can just print off or you could just fill it in yourself.
Money's a lot harder.
So I have a feeling Minnesota could be a red state if they could actually clean up some of these elections in Minneapolis.
phil labonte
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there's significant fraud in Minneapolis.
unidentified
When it comes to voting, massive, you know, reconstruction?
phil labonte
What does that look like to you?
tim pool
The federal government goes into states like Minnesota and asserts federal management over the city and state government and then begins mass prosecutions of all the fraud and starts targeting the corrupt politicians who enabled and protected the fraud, charging and arresting and removing all of them.
I'm for it.
And then after maybe like after you clear out a bunch of the corruption, it could probably be like a couple years.
Then you have a standard election on the normal date and you let the people of Minnesota then figure it out for themselves.
And after that, the new politicians come in and you'll have federal supervision for the next election cycle and then the feds leave.
phil labonte
I love it.
rogan dc draino ohandley
That's effectively what we're doing without that title.
I mean, we aren't taking full explicit control, but we've sent thousands of ICE agents, HSI agents, federal agents, the FBI, they're raiding the daycares, and they've cut off the funding to their SNAP programs, to their other NGO grants.
They've cut it off to their child support services.
So, I mean, they have completely isolated bureaucratically Minnesota.
And I frankly don't know how Tim Waltz even stays in government.
Eventually, this stuff is going to catch up economically, and there's going to be a lot of powerful business people behind the scenes being like, we got to switch things up.
tim pool
You know, I always say this on the show because we seem to know things before anybody else because we got our finger on the pulse.
You know what I'm saying?
What am I typing that?
I got to type in Waltz.
We got our finger on the pulse.
Let me see.
Wait, why did he just disappear?
It was there, then it was gone.
phil labonte
Tim Waltz.
tim pool
I'm trying to pull it up.
unidentified
There we go.
tim pool
On call sheet, Tim Waltz out as governor of Minnesota and 34% before 2027, 27% before July.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, there's rumors that I've seen.
tim pool
That's $2.5 million betting volume, prediction volume on him being kicked out of office or resigning before the end of his term.
That's fairly wild.
And my point is this.
Why don't I just buy a ton of like, he's going to be out.
I'm sitting here reading this every single day and you're saying to me, like, how is he still in government?
And I'm looking at this being like, it's $2.5 million.
rogan dc draino ohandley
He's probably going to be indicted.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah, seriously.
That's what I was alluding to.
Like, I've seen people, nothing's verified, but there's a lot of people saying that there are rumors that Tim Waltz is going to be indicted.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I can't tell you how many corrupt politicians will run for office as a way to protect themselves from indictment, right?
You're seeing Jenna Griswold in Colorado.
She's the Secretary of State who put Tina Peters in jail, free Tina Peters.
And she was busted releasing the election machine passwords, covered it up for six months.
People finally found out.
And then suddenly Colorado is one of the only states to actually get a little bit more blue in the Trump landslide in 2024.
But what did she do once that all got out?
A, she stopped tweeting.
B, she announced in one tweet, her next tweet was, I'm running for attorney general.
So she's going to run for the chief law enforcement officer position to protect herself from prosecution.
Now, look at Tim Waltz.
That guy is corrupt as they get, and he dropped out of his race.
That's how bad it is.
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rogan dc draino ohandley
He knows what's coming down the pike.
And I would assume that some of these calciods might be correct.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, this is, like I said, this is unconfirmed, but Representative Ben Davis is talking about articles of impeachment for Tim Walz.
I don't know if that actually has any kind of.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Yeah, I don't know if that's going to, you know, the state legislature is not as liberal as the head statewide offices.
phil labonte
I mean, it would be nice to see accountability come to an executive like that.
tim pool
Bro, if I put five grand on Tim Waltz out before the end of the year, I'd make $14,286 right now.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
I'm just looking at it like, I never do anything like this.
tate brown
They're selling three bucks for a dollar right now.
tim pool
Man, look at that.
What if I did 50 grand?
phil labonte
Let's go.
tate brown
Unlimited money glitch.
tim pool
Unlimited.
Actually, I was talking to some Gen Z dude about that because he was talking to me about how Gen Z is doing all this gambling content now.
Like it's blowing up.
And I was like, bro, just go on call sheet and look for anything that has like a contract closure date in the next week and odds like and favorable odds, which is literally every single bet.
And it's a free money glitch because it's rarely wrong.
So like if you go to Fed, this is it in January.
You got a month, right?
93%, it maintains the rate.
Okay, yes.
You know what I mean?
Or you can buy cut.
No, 94%.
It's like, yeah, you put $100 there.
At the end of the month, you're going to clear $7 free cash.
So it's like printing money, like $64.
You did $1,000.
But it's rarely wrong.
You know what I mean?
I'm not telling anybody to do any of this.
I was just making that point that we've talked about it for years where it's like we watch the news every single day.
And if I just started trading stocks, like when the show wraps, okay.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to hire a day trader and just be like, after the show, just invest based on what we talked about.
And we're printing money.
Printing it.
phil labonte
Be sick.
tate brown
Shorting femme cells.
tim pool
Did you guys see Inverse Kramer beat Pelosi?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Let's go.
phil labonte
It's incredible that you can actually just follow Inverse Kramer.
Like whatever Jim Kramer says, do the opposite and you'll make a lot of money.
And the guy still has a show on CNBC.
unidentified
These mortgage-backed securities are the safest investment.
phil labonte
Everybody pays their mortgage.
tate brown
Who doesn't pay their mortgage?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And also, don't forget when in Iron Man 2, he was against Stark Technologies and he smashed the mug.
And he ends up saving the whole universe.
Even talk about a bad bet.
phil labonte
Even in fiction, he can't get it right.
tim pool
You know what's actually funny about this?
I bring it up as a half joke, is that actually they did write this knowing full well his prediction was wrong.
Like the point of Iron Man in the movies is that he is going to win.
So they actually wrote Jim Kramer into the movie being wrong.
unidentified
You'd think Kramer would be like, guys, Hold on, guys.
phil labonte
Like, come on.
There's no wrong for once.
This is 2007 or whatever.
So you probably could be like, you know, there's kind of, you know, a little thing starting now.
So maybe we shouldn't have me be, you know, blah, blah, blah.
tate brown
He's like, he's like, can I get it right?
It's like, this is fiction, not a miracle.
tim pool
Let's, you know what?
Phil pulled this up.
Let's talk about this living in the simulation.
So this is actually a decently old story.
And the claim, people took DMT and then stared at a laser on a wall and saw actual code, actual alphanumeric symbols.
And they claim to have seen the same thing.
Now, here's what I think.
As far as I know, none of these people wrote it down.
So they didn't see the same thing.
They saw something they could all describe as alphanumeric symbols.
I have a very simple explanation for this.
They were on drugs.
But here's the story.
phil labonte
Scribbling furiously.
tim pool
CNN embedded with a group of amateur investigators.
And by amateur investigators, they mean drug users staring at a wall.
There's a bunch of people who love the DMT stuff getting mad at me right now who openly believe reality is a simulation.
And they say they're trying to prove it by finding the code that runs the world like in the Matrix.
We had on Gary the Numbers a guy.
And if you don't know who he is, he's like, I hear crazy stories about him.
Like he just wins sports betting like crazy nonstop because he does all this numerology stuff, which I'm not, I don't believe in.
But he said it's, there is a code to the universe, and you can see holes in the code, like cheat codes, basically.
And if you follow them, you'll follow a pattern.
And it's actually not the craziest thing I've ever heard.
I think it's actually, I think it's sound.
It doesn't mean that he's right about everything, but the idea being math is how we describe how the universe functions.
Basically, there's physics, there's universe, and we've begun writing down how it functions, starting with quantity and finding ourselves now mapping dimensions and things like this.
So it does make sense that if math is how we map the universe, you can find patterns in how the universe works by looking at numbers.
I don't think that means that some guy sitting in his room looking at the sky is going to figure out that nine, six, you know, he's going to, whatever.
But it does mean that maybe you get an edge.
Maybe it's possible.
Well, here's the video.
Are we living in a simulation?
And I gotta tell you, it just looks like drug addicts staring at it.
rogan dc draino ohandley
5150.
tim pool
5150.
unidentified
Jail.
Wow.
rogan dc draino ohandley
She's like Home Depot.
unidentified
This group is preparing to take part in an experiment.
Exhale to keep it up.
One that's meant to show them the simulation.
Thank you, everybody.
Danny Goeler created the test, which consists of two parts: a psychedelic drug called DMT and lasers.
DMT stands for dimethyltryptamine.
If you smoke it, it produces the most psychedelic explosion known to men.
Just in case somebody is not fully aware, this is a big experience.
The main jarring factor is the speed.
It comes on really fast.
It will surprise you, even though I said this to you.
It will still surprise you.
Debbie's about to go.
All right.
Oh, look.
tim pool
Do I know?
unidentified
Look smaller than you think.
The pixels that make up the screen, so to speak.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Stare and see.
unidentified
This is a laser beam right now.
And there's almost like a road.
The best I could describe it is like snakeskin.
Do you know how many times people said snakeskin?
Crazy.
This feels really mythological.
tim pool
It looks like snakeskin.
Yeah.
unidentified
What a great word.
So big.
Can you see snakeskin?
That was so unexpected.
Like, this was not this.
It was like this whole world.
Not a world I've ever been in.
tim pool
Oh, not drunk.
unidentified
I would conceive of.
Do you think what you saw there is other dimensions or?
Well, I certainly can understand now why Danny wants to spend a lot of time there.
Because it felt like I wanted to stay there and it felt like, you know, what else is even beyond this?
tate brown
You know, I'd rather them be doing this than riding in Minneapolis right now.
So I think this is like probably the better alternative.
rogan dc draino ohandley
This is where they were.
phil labonte
No, man.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
phil labonte
I don't know if it's actually better, Tate.
tate brown
I think I'd rather, you know, either they're hitting IC agency, you know, just give them a little DMT and then give them some lasers.
They'll be all right.
They'll be all right.
tim pool
It's like a cat.
You know, you just point the laser at the wall and the cat just.
tate brown
I hate all of these like esoteric.
Like, there's that one where it's like, have you seen this man in your dream?
And it's just a Greek guy.
I'm like, I see Greek people all the time.
Like, she's a guy 30 times a day.
What are you talking about?
rogan dc draino ohandley
We can see the exact same thing she's describing.
Without the DMIT.
tim pool
She's like, it looks like snakes.
And I'm like, yeah, the laser.
rogan dc draino ohandley
There's nothing about a simulation.
unidentified
It does.
rogan dc draino ohandley
It's just staring into a laser and doing it.
phil labonte
It's cool to my eyes.
tim pool
They've like claimed that they've seen symbols.
Let me see if I can actually.
We actually live in a simulation.
Where's the like?
Show me the point where I'm not going to watch this like 30-minute long thing of guys just talking about lasers on walls.
tate brown
Unemployment.
Oh, here we go.
tim pool
Let's play this.
You know, it's funny.
There's like a whole cottage industry of drug addicts staring at lasers on walls.
Yo, I'm in the wrong industry.
I work so hard every day.
tate brown
You just need to get in like the stud finder industry.
You can sell a million of these things.
unidentified
There you go.
And just for the record, I didn't tell you this.
You've said it yourself.
I see letters, differently letters, numbers, and letters.
Wow.
Chinese of Chinese.
tim pool
Guys, guys.
Tate's got this conspiracy theory that beyond the ice wall is Koreans.
tate brown
It's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And this proves it.
tate brown
Yeah.
Literally, he's like, I see Chinese.
It could be Koreans.
Can't really tell.
tim pool
No, he doesn't know it.
unidentified
He doesn't know which characters which alphabet they're from.
I see like a stiff and can you move it?
Yes.
It is crazy.
Wow.
You see that?
Okay.
So, yeah, it's not stuck.
tim pool
No, it's not because of the light.
unidentified
No.
It's on its own side.
Light is just literally revealing it.
What the fuck?
People are so disappointing, bro.
It's fun.
It's like if you could somehow project it back from the air, you would see it in the air, though.
There it is.
And look at the edges, like where the light ends.
Like in these areas and up and down.
Like, look at that.
Like, how he just reveals it.
He's just feeding him.
tate brown
Yeah.
Like, he gets his face blurred because he finished filming.
He's like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever done.
I don't want that in there.
phil labonte
He's furiously calling you.
Don't you know?
tate brown
My wife will kill me.
unidentified
Not exactly.
There are portions of them.
tate brown
Why are they all in bathrooms?
tim pool
Why aren't they writing it down?
unidentified
It's confusing because the thing, things behind it kind of make it blurry.
phil labonte
Because pens don't work for that.
tate brown
And they're not describing anything.
tim pool
Right.
tate brown
I see like columns and blurry things.
phil labonte
Characters.
unidentified
This is the simulation.
tim pool
So they're claiming that it looks like the matrix with all like the numbers and everything.
And I'm like, wow, get a piece of paper, write down what you're seeing.
Like, I can look at Japanese symbols and copy it.
I have no idea what it is, but I'm like, line, line, line.
That's easy.
Down, dot, line.
I can copy a picture.
I can't do it well, but I can do it well enough.
If they all did that and then everybody showed each other and they were like, they're all the exact same symbols, then I'd be like, okay, that's pretty crazy.
phil labonte
Maybe there's something here.
tate brown
I mean, you take these people to the eye doctor, they'll do like, it'll make January 6th look like a birthday party.
I mean, they will come on and delude.
Like, it'll be insane.
We got to do that.
Can we fund this?
I think we can fund.
They're dude looking at the little barn and they're like, I think it's Gartha.
I can't tell.
tim pool
Be awesome.
The truth is, Koreans control everything.
tate brown
They do.
tim pool
I mean, you think about it.
How much money do we give them every year?
We have, what, 30k troops in South Korea?
We're basically providing military service for them.
And what do they do?
Dance around on TV, shaking it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Sounds like we.
phil labonte
They provide K-pop for the world.
tate brown
Of course, K-More K-Slop.
phil labonte
Come on.
tate brown
What is going on?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
China is our global adversary.
Okay, we kind of see what's going on here.
You're in the whole peninsula.
And then the North and South Korea is just a fake divide to get more money out of us.
You know, behind the scenes, they're chumming it up.
tim pool
See, I'm not, I want to clarify too, because I'm not immediately.
I actually am deeply interested in the DMT stuff because what we're looking for in these experiments is replicable phenomena.
So there have been stories where two people unrelated to each other in a similar area were brought in for an experiment where they did a DMT and they both experienced the same thing but were separated from each other and then described to researchers very, very similar events with the same people.
When they blast off, they see like what do they call machine elves, which is just like a stupid phrase someone came up with, but weird entities.
And there have been people who have claimed to have experienced the exact same things despite never talking to each other.
That's where it gets interesting.
So when you see something like this, I'm like, guys, write it down.
Like, we're interested in this.
Joe Rogan had a whole like six-year arc on this.
We love it.
Just write it down.
The fact that they haven't or that it's not a component of the story says to me they're making things up.
Like you're literally just on drugs.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
phil labonte
That's the whole story.
Look, there's drugs and there's lights and people are interested in lights when they're on drugs.
I mean, like that, that's kind of like a story as old as drugs.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know?
tim pool
Like, I knew this guy when I was a teenager, and he was telling me aliens were real because he'd seen it.
phil labonte
Saw lights.
tim pool
He said, no, he saw a UFO float above his house.
And he's like, I'm not kidding.
He's like, I came out of my backyard.
He was in his 20s.
And he's like, I was smoking a SIG and then a UFO came down over the back of my house.
And it was in the suburbs of Chicago.
So it's like decently populated, but still houses are a little bit.
It's not like they're literally just next to each other like in the city.
And then I was like, for real?
And he was like, yeah, dude.
And I was like, well, like, tell me the story.
What happened?
He's like, well, me and my buddy, we were in his basement and we were just doing like a bunch of acid.
unidentified
And I went, okay.
tim pool
And then he was like, and I was drinking and I went outside to have a cigarette and I saw a UFO and I was like, do you think that had something to do with the acid?
He goes, no, amen.
unidentified
And I was like, okay.
tate brown
Yeah, I knew this was the police.
phil labonte
Police helicopter?
tim pool
Right?
tate brown
Yeah, I knew this Albanian dude in college and he took a bunch of LSD.
And after that, he would always wear earplugs.
And he's like, I don't want them to have access.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
Bro, I've, there were people that, you know, in my old neighborhood who like, did drugs one time and then just went retard like that.
tate brown
Yeah.
Normies get one-shotted.
They can't handle it.
tim pool
I just, I think everybody does.
tate brown
Everyone can't handle it.
tim pool
Maybe some people don't.
Like people talk about like micro-dosing LSD and it like opens your mind and you can contemplate ideas you couldn't before that you were locked out of.
But I mean, I've heard stories.
I can't, I don't know if it's true because I don't like hanging out with the guy every single day.
But there were people who are like, yeah, this one dude did acid one time and then he was a completely different person after that.
He became an asshole.
phil labonte
I probably hated him and he was just like, all those stories are exactly why I didn't do like any significant drug.
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phil labonte
I never had significant drug use in my life.
You heard stories about like if you do Coke once, you're going to have a heart attack.
I was like, all right, well, I have no desire to do that.
tate brown
Oh, if you take acid, you unlock new flavors on the Coke freestyle machine.
Awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like I, I, you can, you can, like, what, what looks like a white part of the screen to everyone else, you can see the just floating definition.
You press it, and then it just changes.
And then everybody else, the screen is just white, and they can't see anything.
And then you press the buttons, and then like a weird color no one's ever seen before comes out.
tate brown
Diet fentanyl.
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Look at the one city where they did a lot of this, like micro-dosing and all that, San Francisco.
And then it didn't turn out too well.
tate brown
So they invented Facebook.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Failed experiment.
tim pool
Yeah, they're right now, they've been doing this.
We talked about this for years, the extended state DMT experiments, where they're hooking people up with IV DMT.
So they just go into like a four-hour DMT trip.
Because the way people describe it is that when you do a massive dose of it, you blast off.
phil labonte
Even Joe Rogan's like, yo, yo, yo, no, no, no, that's not how you do it.
tim pool
He's like, you do it.
I don't want to do it.
Like, let's see what happens.
But you blast off.
And some people, they call it, what do they call it like breaking through the veil or whatever?
That if you do enough, it's like it's been described as how do they describe it?
Like you go, you're yourself, but you see another dimension almost.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And you can see entities and they talk to you.
And the creepiest thing about it is they offer you deals.
tate brown
Right.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I was talking to Mike Cernovich about this.
It's like, it's like, it's a, it's a, and Alex Jones.
rogan dc draino ohandley
So what kind of deals?
tim pool
They offer you knowledge and success.
And I was, so I was talking to Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones about this, and he was talking about how there are a lot of people that they're like secular as they're atheists or whatever.
And so they call them the entities.
And he's like, but they're demons.
They're demons and they offer you the deal and you can't take it.
But people do.
And he thinks there's a lot of evil people out there that they control things so easily because they have access to these entities that give them information, but it's just cutting a deal with a demon.
And I said, what is the downside of the deal?
And it's like the bill comes due.
They're not giving you something for nothing.
You're doing these, you're taking these psychedelics and you're getting access to this plane of existence where you're seeing these beings and they say to you, we'll make you smarter.
We'll make you succeed.
Just take our gift.
We just want to help you.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
But it always comes with something and you never know what it's going to be or what you get involved in.
It is demonic.
Now, I don't know.
Call it whatever you want, but I will say this.
Maybe what they describe as angels and demons were just a way to describe them in the past to what people call these elves or entities now.
And you're taking this massive psychedelic and seeing something you normally don't see and then cutting these deals.
And real quick, just DMT does exist already in your mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
So when you go to bed, when you dream, you get a little bit.
When you die, you get a big dose.
What if normally people are able to pray?
And with this chemical in your mind, you have a pinhole to look through when you're praying to commune with angels or demons or to God or whatever.
And when you blast yourself with DMT, you rip that hole open.
And now the demon's staring you in the face and saying, I'm going to cut you a deal.
unidentified
Gosh.
tate brown
That's how Aaron Rodgers ended up on the Jets.
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tate brown
Doke End new.
tim pool
He took DMT and said, get me on the Jets.
tate brown
And they went, he's like, I wanted some Super Bowls.
It's like, you're going to have to play for the Jets.
tim pool
You're going to have to play for the Jets.
phil labonte
That's rough.
tate brown
There's some deal on that.
tim pool
That's the downside.
phil labonte
You'll win.
You end up in New York.
You end up in Newark.
tate brown
You end up in New Jersey.
It's like, we give you all the deal.
No.
phil labonte
It'll be great for a while.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Washington Post.
Trans athletes said to the Supreme Court, neither science nor the American public is on their side.
phil labonte
What are they doing at the Supreme Court?
tim pool
This is interesting.
Apparently, the mainstream media is starting to go anti-woke.
And I got big predictions about this, but here's the Washington Post.
They say, the Supreme Court has the chance this week to save women's sports, allowing states to restore a level playing field for girls by excluding biological men and thereby correcting one of the worst excesses of America's cultural revolution.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
The Washington Post wrote this?
They had Taylor Lorenz on staff.
Talk about crazy.
I mean, this is a 180.
And what we've already seen with CBS hiring Barry Weiss, it is very, very obvious.
The corporate press is making the moves to go anti-woke because they knew it destroyed their brand and credibility and they're all going broke because of it.
That's my prediction.
rogan dc draino ohandley
They've admitted defeat.
tim pool
Yeah, we won.
I mean, when you get WAPO being like, get men out of women's sports, it's like, okay.
rogan dc draino ohandley
We won.
Popular vote.
I mean, the popular vote is the popular vote.
And Trump was anti all this stuff.
And he's only gotten more votes every single time he's run.
And I think they're just saying, okay, these random influencers and content creators are absolutely eating our lunch and our numbers are going down and we're firing people and going bankrupt.
So maybe let's just tweak our message a little bit and say that boys are boys and girls are girls again.
phil labonte
The gay race communism is losing favor.
So they're going to go back to vulgar Marxism.
That's why you've got all these bills targeting billionaires and trying to get after people's property.
tate brown
These sports marketers like ripping their hair out saying this.
So they're like, finally, everyone's talking about women's sports.
It's been on the like, release the freaks.
Come on, let's make this exciting.
You know, throw one on an NBA team or on a WNBA team.
I don't, that sounds like I tune in.
This could be a mistake.
If you're like, you're in sports marketing, this could be the biggest hit to your industry.
phil labonte
Yeah, watch them dominate.
It's going to be bad for sports betting, too, because you always just bet on the train.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
Yeah, Brittany Griner, easy, taking the over, no question.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
Did you ever see the ESPN one where it was like, guess the bicep?
And I was like, they carry our fitness.
phil labonte
I didn't see that.
tate brown
No, I disavow.
Like, this is good.
We want to protect women's sports.
I'm just saying for the pros, at the pro level, they should consider it.
You know, this could, maybe I'd be tuning into, you know.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, what's the WVA?
unidentified
I don't know.
That'd be great.
phil labonte
I mean, I understand that this is the story at hand, but I do think that it's worth noting that this is something that's basically happening, you know, society-wide.
Like, people are kind of just like, this is not something that we're okay with.
tate brown
Because they started letting him wrestle and like box and stuff.
phil labonte
Everything.
tate brown
It's great.
phil labonte
Look, you know, we just had a story the other day about, I think it was on the after show, a trans woman, which is just a dude, sitting there in a woman's, what is it?
The Planet Fitness.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
You know, just going at it with himself because he's in the woman's bathroom.
unidentified
Nobody wants.
phil labonte
Well, it was Planet Fitness, but nobody wants, even people that go to Planet Fitness don't want that.
I don't care how progressive you are.
No women want to be in the bathroom with a male in public with a male that's masculine.
I agree.
tate brown
But Planet Fitness attendees are battle hardened.
unidentified
They've seen some stuff there.
tate brown
Planet Fitness, dude, it is like freaking Bourbon Street out there.
It is wild.
phil labonte
Bourbon Street has nothing on Planet Fitness.
tate brown
Dude, oh, dude, Planet Fitness.
Talk about a cultural revolution.
You go to Planet Fitness, dude.
You're lucky to get out of there with your dignity intact, man.
It's rough.
phil labonte
Definitely not.
tate brown
Talk about making some deals with the devil.
You ever sign a Planet Fitness contract?
unidentified
Dude, it's rough.
phil labonte
But honestly, this is something that's extremely unpopular with the American people.
And you're going to see it.
I think you're going to see this kind of backlash going against states like California where you can legitimately have your kids taken away if you don't have the proper policy or if you don't have the right ideas about your child's gender, which again, gender is made up too.
You have male and female sex.
Gender is just your sex spirit, which is BS made up for the purpose of this whole garbage.
tate brown
Well, if I'm being cynical, this is them freshening up their message for the midterms.
That's what's going on.
Because it goes without saying, they've completely overplayed their hand.
They've just gone for complete lunacy.
And so this is like probably a call coming from the DNC.
Like, guys, we got to trick these people into voting for us again.
So don't scare them.
You know, stop scaring these people.
Maybe throw them a bone here.
I don't buy this.
I don't buy that this is like the WAPO just coming around like, oh, wow, this is clearly an excess of the cultural revolution.
This is them like making a conscious decision.
Like, we need to stop scaring normal people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
So let's rebrand a little bit and touch it up.
Because as soon as they get into office, they'll push the same policy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if they'll push the same policies.
But like I said, it is a turn towards vulgar Marxism.
It's a turn towards we're going after the people that have money because you got people that are essentially upset about their economic situation because the economy has been kind of rough in the past couple of years.
So you've got so many people that are already just like, look, they're suffering under the inflation for the past five years or what have you.
And so they're basically legitimately PO'd.
And so they think that it's a much more, it'll be a much more functional thing for them to go ahead and say, look, we're after the rich people.
We're after the billionaires.
There's a lot of billionaires out there that have left the left, that have left the left with a bad taste in their mouth.
They start giving money to people on the right, giving money to Trump.
You can hate, it's easy to hate Elon Musk and et cetera.
And so they're just like, look, we're going to go after the people that have money.
You get way more people that can point the finger and say, that's the reason that my life sucks.
As opposed to if you're just like, well, you know, that dude in the bathroom, we have, in the woman's bathroom, we have to support him, you know?
tate brown
Well, that's why you're seeing Zoron like spend all of his political capital on economic issues and these sorts of things.
And it's like, in some ways, people don't want to hear this, but in some ways, that's going to affect you much more drastically because that's going to actually completely derail your life if you're just trying to, like, these stuff are important, but these are like, you know, in some ways, like, you know, a lot of people, they don't interact with this on a daily basis.
How about him like flooding the market with rent control apartments?
These sorts of things like have a serious, they completely destroy your life, completely screw over your life.
I mean, this, and the reason I make this point is because you saw a lot of people coming out and defending Maduro because they were like, but look how good he is on social issues.
Like, gay marriage is outlawed there, and that's so based.
And I'm like, I promise you, the Venezuelans would probably cut that deal to take American social policy if it means like not getting their money stolen from them.
They're both bad.
They're both excesses of Marxism ultimately.
I'm just saying, like, don't buy it when these people do like a bait and switch and they suddenly are, you know, really sensible on social issues.
And I'm willing to move a little bit, but the economics are still like, hey, we're going to steal from you.
tim pool
I'm just going to go ahead and say conspiracy going back to this article from the Washington Post.
Everything's fake.
It's all bots.
It's all pre-planned.
Everyone's lying.
I met a guy recently and he I was hanging out with my buddy Robbie.
Shout out to Robbie.
And then as we were walking away, he asked Robbie, is like, is Tim really mad with like a Candace?
And he was like, bro, just ask him.
And the guy was like, well, I don't know.
And then Robbie was like, hey, yo, this guy wants to ask you a question.
He's like, are you guys, did you actually beef?
And I was like, yes.
And he was like, I just, everything's fake.
You know, I just don't know if it's like, you're really beefing or it's like a scripted thing.
And I'm like, bro, yes.
But you know what's really crazy is that I met another guy.
Shout out to Niamh.
What's up, brother?
Neve said, be nice.
He said, be nicer.
I said, okay, brother.
unidentified
I'll do my best.
tim pool
But he even asked me, like, how much of this is real?
Because everything's fake.
And they just, people don't believe it anymore.
And so these were, I think these were younger guys, like maybe younger millennial and older Gen Z.
And it seems very much like their view is the stuff I watch on the YouTube is scripted, fake WWE stuff.
And I don't blame them.
Because look at this.
Look at the comments on the Washington Post article about trans athletes in sports.
Let me ask you guys, do you think that the view of the commenters are going to be pro trans athletes in women's sports or anti?
phil labonte
I mean, my guess is anti-yeah.
tim pool
Anti and like, they think men should not be women's sports.
Yeah.
You think the Washington Post's audience.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I think they'd be pro.
unidentified
They're very intellectual and pro-transgender.
tim pool
So the Washington Post wrote this article.
unidentified
Everybody's shocked.
tim pool
Like, why is the Washington Post saying men not women's sports?
So what is the presumption we're going to have?
876 comments.
The Washington Post audience is going to be like, you're bigots.
Why are you saying this?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
No, they're all coming out now and saying, I have voted Democrat for decades, but I'm of the firm opinion the Democratic Party support for this is ethically and scientifically absurd position was a huge resonating factor in cost of Nememocrit Party legitimacy.
There should be male sports and female sports only biology should be taken into custody.
For progressives that think trans men and women's sports is a non-issue and we have bigger things to worry about.
The bigger thing is that it was possibly a difference in the 24 election.
If you want to be trans, that's fine, but you don't get to compete in sports with your chosen gender.
Now, hold on there a gosh darn minute.
How is it possible?
I don't believe it.
Bring on the DMT.
I want to see the code because we live in a simulation.
unidentified
So true.
tate brown
Well, this is why I got some flack.
I brought Amber Duke on the show.
This was before the Christmas.
How could you?
Total patriot.
Total patriot, Amber Duke.
And I brought her on.
We talked about that compact piece where they were like, oh, they were walking through all the data of how white guys have been oppressed, which is empirically true.
But me and her had this critique of the article because everyone was like glazing it.
They're like, this is the best thing since sliced bread.
And our critique was the author, Jacob Savage, didn't actually provide any solutions for the issue.
What the purpose of that piece was, was it was a permission piece.
So it was to signal to liberals, hey, we're abandoning this policy now, and you guys need to pick up the talking points.
That's exactly what this is.
This is a permission piece where now they're sending out messaging like, hey, you're allowed to be against this now.
tim pool
Look at the front page.
Look at the front page.
They say they're monitoring ICE arrests.
Feds say they're breaking the law.
That's at minimum neutral.
unidentified
Can you believe it?
tate brown
That's what it is.
These are permission pieces.
The DNC is like, hey, we need to change course a little bit.
So we need to start, you know, maybe burn things and stuff.
tim pool
Look, look, to the point about, you know, the guy was talking about me and Candace.
I think that there is a move to create what we call the retard right.
The idea is the Uniparty establishment went anti-Trump.
Okay, so here, I'll give you the quick elevator pitch.
The Republicans didn't want Trump to win, but Trump does win.
And now there's a problem.
The right is behind Donald Trump.
So the Democrats, the neocons merge into a singular group, always the Uniparty, and say, okay, we're against whatever they're for because we have to defeat them.
And so they started embracing whack-aloon, woke, and progressive ideas.
Thus you get child sex changes and all this stupid garbage.
And the liberals just say, yeah, yeah, we all agree with this.
This burned them down.
They were trying to muster up a unified front against Donald Trump because he was not part of the establishment machine.
They couldn't beat him.
They burned their credibility.
And then after Trump crushes them in 2024, they said, guys, it's not working.
Okay.
We've lost all credibility.
We've lost suburban housewives.
We have done shows wholly about this subject where they are spending billions to fix this problem.
Surprise, surprise, CBS News hires Barry Weiss and goes anti-woke.
And Washington Post is all of a sudden now being somewhat neutral, if not with that editorial on trans and female sports, anti-woke.
At the same time, YouTube puts on the front page what we call the retard right.
People who are like, did you guys see that there was a crisis in our banking sector?
The Jews did that.
And you're like, okay, sure.
Did you also notice that my sandwich was molding?
The Jews did that too.
And you're like, no, no, hold on there, gosh, darn a minute.
I'm exaggerating, right?
But the retard right is basically blaming Jews for everything, and they sound like retards.
They sound almost as retarded as the people who are claiming children should get sex changes.
Okay.
You want to talk about government interests and foreign lobbyists and all that stuff?
Agreed, it exists.
And AIPAC should register as a foreign agent.
All of those things are fine.
But when you claim that Zionists are forcing the United States government to invade Venezuela, you sound like you're retarded.
And that's the play.
The play is to fracture the right so that the people who are too stupid to see it's an op are going to embrace the retard talking point.
And I'm seeing people who have been friends of this show and friends of mine posting on X, retarded things, and they're going to get burned for it because it's what I will say is this.
There's a distinction between woke right, like what James Lindsay and these other people had been pushing.
I am not talking about this.
I am not talking about a group of people that have critical race theory views or whatever, but are conservative or whatever the argument was.
I am talking about a concerted effort from YouTube and other big social media platforms that for some reason and their algorithm are propping up specific voices that have retarded conspiracy views of the world.
They're not advocating for child sex changes or necessarily identitarianism.
They're claiming that they're saying insane things, like Tim Poole tried to buy the Daily Wire.
So they're sounding like retards.
And what happens is the Washington Post is starting to sound sane.
CBS is sounding sane.
And the middle-of-the-road people like me, like Elon, like Rogan, Rogan, Rogan are going to be attracted to this.
And then the people that chase the algorithm, like the Pied Piper machine is driving them, are sitting on X now screaming the Jews did it.
And more importantly, there is a guy who stabbed me in the back specifically to chase these views.
Lying about our company, lying about our security, lying about him being at our studio he was never at, doing it for views.
So now he's burned bridges with me.
He could have come on the show.
He could have called me on the phone and said, I'm going to come on the show and talk about it.
Instead, he chases the algorithmic push, and he looks like a retard.
They're going to burn bridges, burn fans, sound insane to regular people.
2028, 2028 is going to come along, and they're going to demand the Republican Party address the Zionist.
They're going to address all these weird crackpot conspiracies.
And then the Washington Post and CBS are going to come out and say, we're the sane ones.
Trust us.
I don't know the Democrats can muster up a candidate, but Stephen A. Smith said Renee Good's shooting was justified under the law.
And he's who they are floating for a candidate.
So what's going to happen in 2028 if JD Vance goes the route of the retard right to try and court the populist right who's believing retarded things because the algorithm promoted it and the grifters made money.
And then Stephen A. Smith comes out and says, that's insane.
Woke is insane.
The Republicans have gone crazy.
And the Democrats, we're kicking the crazies out.
Joe Rogan's going to vote Democrat and he's going to tell his audience to do it and they're going to win.
tate brown
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, you have this entire contingency of people, like we were talking about the DMT, where people just get one-shotted by it.
It was kind of the same thing where it was like these people that learned about sort of the discourse around Israel and Zionism for the first time in like 2024 because it showed up on their like Instagram Reels feed and they got one-shotted by it.
Like they legitimately can't handle the concept of nuance.
And unfortunately, politics at the granular level is actually quite boring.
The Swing Vote Factor 00:04:21
tate brown
And so when you're like discussing our relationship with Israel or perhaps like, you know, Zionism, its influence with the United States, with our government, the way our lawmakers conduct their affairs, it's like a nuance conversation.
Like it requires, again, like a degree of delicacy so you don't sound retarded.
But these people just get one-shotted by it.
And it like completely, like, that's all they talk about.
They just turn into like literal where you can predict every single thing they're going to say.
And I agree with Tim.
I do think this is the play.
I think the Democrats or the establishment ones that just want to win, they just want it more than we do.
They're realizing like, hey, this is the play to get back in.
I do think JD Vance, I'm not saying you're saying this.
I do think he's very prudent.
I don't expect that he's going to play ball.
I haven't seen, he hasn't thus far really played ball with the retard right, so to speak.
I think he knows that it's a smaller proportion of the base.
They're just very vocal, and he doesn't really need them to stitch together a coalition in 28.
But it's going to cause problems when you have these commentators that are probably outsized in influence because they just have built up a lot of goodwill over the years, weaponizing that to try and derail Vance 28.
And that's going to be a huge issue going into the primaries.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the way that the left has operated is so unpopular.
And all you have to do is look at the presidential election, right?
The way that Donald Trump won all of the swing states, the entire country moved to the right to some degree.
It wasn't a huge swing, but it was uniform across the whole country.
So whether or not the situation with the right is accurate, the situation you guys are talking about, it doesn't take a genius to look at what happened in that election and say, maybe we should back off the things that are unpopular with the American people and stop trying to force them.
And it's real easy to figure out what those things are.
And that's my estimation of the whole thing.
It's like the Democrats are like, this stuff didn't work for us.
It's really unpopular with normal people.
If we want them to vote for us again, we got to stop pushing it.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I think there's three things I've noticed recently with a lot of this kind of fervor.
The first thing is people in our world, creators, influencers, that kind of wildly overestimate the actual real world impact this has on votes and voters.
I've been pretty close in some congressional campaigns, Senate campaigns, and the things that really get voters out is door knocking, is mailers, is local advertisements.
So as much as there is, you know, national numbers with virality and whatever, it doesn't necessarily translate to local districts that well.
The second thing I would say is it seems like some of the fervor has actually started to really die down.
And I think there's two reasons behind that.
One, the war in Gaza is really starting to wind down.
It's a lot less volatile.
And with that, the emotions have started to die down.
And two, I noticed a overnight change once Elon put in people's ex-profiles what country they're from.
And you really started to see some of the loudest, most divisive voices who are trying to fracture the MAGA base because there are so many reasons, so many international interests, be it the war machine, be it the EU, be it the tariff battle, where those outside forces wanted to weaken Trump's support.
And they finally found a wedge issue where they could.
And I saw overnight a drastic drop in the intensity of that division once Elon posted what countries these people were from.
And you noticed probably a third, if not half of the loudest voices were actually from overseas.
tate brown
That was like the best day on Twitter history.
It felt like a Scooby-Doo, like the end of a Scooby-Doo episode.
It's like pulls it off, like the Marblehead statue profile picture, and you pull it off.
You're like, I would have got away with it, too.
rogan dc draino ohandley
And I don't care what issue is hot today.
It doesn't mean it's going to be hot in a week or especially in a month or two.
Again, there's nothing – if there was some way to easily keep something hot, companies would put all their money into that for advertising.
Laugh Tracks and Desensitization 00:04:25
rogan dc draino ohandley
Virality is really hard to stay hot.
You always got to be adapting.
Audience interests change.
People kind of get desensitized to stuff.
Eventually, they're like, all right, this again.
Like, what else?
Right.
tate brown
Well, because at the end of the day, if you are a political commentator and you have like a certain vision for how you think America ought to be, is you are in the business of determining what is politically viable, what is a politically viable vehicle for your ideas.
And when you become like a slave to the algorithm, you're just going to get tossed around and it becomes very incoherent what your actual vision for this country is.
And then that just becomes increasingly frustrated for, you know, the people that are consuming this content.
And then all that results out of it is literally just a schizophrenic base that doesn't know what it wants or what vision they have for America.
phil labonte
A lot of people need to be told what they want.
Yeah, honestly.
And like to your point about JD Vance, I do think that JD Vance is actually pretty solid.
tim pool
That's why there are laugh tracks on TV shows.
unidentified
Yeah, so tricky.
tim pool
I can't stand any show with a laugh track.
I just can't do it.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Well, it's like you've seen behind the curtain.
You're like, this is so fake now.
phil labonte
I love the laugh.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Like seeing the lady that needed to be 5150.
It's almost surreal to be so awake to the BS and to see people still trapped in it.
You're like, you're a sentient human being and you are still trapped in the Truman show, really.
And then, you know, the laugh tracks.
Growing up, I was like, yeah, it makes me want to laugh too.
And now I look at it.
I'm like, this is like dystopian.
tim pool
Never made me want to laugh.
Never liked it.
Yeah, I've always hated laugh tracks.
unidentified
I love the laugh tracks.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I was in the Matrix earlier.
tate brown
I want to see it.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Eight nine years ago, that's what it is.
tim pool
That's a Tate's theory.
tate brown
You're very precise, serious.
tim pool
I would just stare at the TV angrily.
Like, Simpsons didn't have a laugh track.
unidentified
No laughing.
tim pool
No, no.
tate brown
That's not funny.
Very serious in your Chicago.
phil labonte
That's right.
tim pool
No, Jerry, not funny.
Yeah, I just, I could, I can't stand it.
tate brown
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I hate laughter.
tate brown
But what happens when you watch Seinfeld and they take the laugh track out?
Does that like disturb you?
tim pool
That's funny.
phil labonte
That's true.
tim pool
Then you're like, wow, these guys are all having grand mall seizures.
unidentified
Like, Jerry's like, George!
And you're like, oh, his brain's living on DMT.
tate brown
Yeah, no, I love it.
I think the cartoon sound effects would be great.
Like that video of the brawl going on.
Can you imagine?
That'd be hilarious.
Like a cloud forms and there's like fists going out.
That'd be great.
Like I love politics about it.
tim pool
Big Bang Theory is not funny in any respect.
Seinfeld actually was, but the laugh track was annoying.
Yeah.
And you take it out.
You still have humor.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You don't need it.
Big Bang Theory has no humor.
unidentified
Seinfeld no audience.
tim pool
Seinfeld?
phil labonte
No.
unidentified
No way.
tim pool
Seinfeld could have been a live audience.
Nobody can hear you, by the way.
So it's like, I'm just talking to myself over here.
tate brown
No one has a question.
tim pool
It's the DMT.
We blasted off before the show, man.
We were talking about making the show more interesting for 2026 and beyond.
phil labonte
And so it's just most of Seinfeld was filmed in front of a live studio audience at CBS Studios.
tim pool
But they're outside.
They go outside.
They do stuff.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, a lot of that stuff sets.
unidentified
Crowd follows them outside.
No, bro.
tim pool
They're literally outside.
phil labonte
I'm telling you what the...
tim pool
Oh, you mean like fake...
But like a studio audience in a out.
No, bro, there's scenes where they're in the street driving cars.
It could be like a closed set studio with a fake street.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But you're not putting an audience in front of that.
phil labonte
Like I said, it says most of Seinfeld was.
unidentified
Yeah, that makes sense.
tate brown
Do you ever like you watch the Andy Griffith show and then everyone in that laugh track is dead?
unidentified
That's creepy.
tate brown
You go back and watch the show and it's like you're not.
tim pool
That's true for every laugh track.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, they're all from the 60s.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Exactly.
So you're watching Big Bang Theater and you're just hearing a cacophony of wailing dead.
tate brown
It's like, what is this?
phil labonte
Purgatory?
None of them have made it.
tate brown
You know, to be fair, we're in Florida.
It's kind of like that because everyone's so old.
unidentified
You know what?
tim pool
It really does trip me out where we're going.
So you walk into a casino, right?
And you'll see this giant.
Have you guys seen, you guys have been to casinos in recent years?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Have you seen how slot machines are these days?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
They're like 12 feet tall and they curve over you.
Gene Wilder's Curse 00:09:49
tim pool
And so I walk in one day and what do I see?
Lo and behold, no one other than Gene Wilder dressed like Willy Wonka smiling at me from 12 feet high.
And I just thought to myself, this is a horror film.
tate brown
Yeah.
unidentified
That's creepy.
tim pool
Can you believe like Gene Wilder sitting back while they're filming this and like death comes to him in the night and just floats in in a black cloak and says, in 50 years, they will use your likeness in gambling slot machines where you'll grant money to the elderly.
And he's just like, oh, like, I can't imagine.
There's a lot of this stuff.
There's like a Whitney Houston one.
unidentified
I'm like, how did he acquire the rights to this?
tim pool
And I'm just thinking how insane it is that one day someone, I'm going to have like a great, great grandson, and he's going to be this snooty little prick who's like born into money.
And then he's going to be like, sure, I don't care my great-great-grandfather's likeness.
Give me $50 billion because a $450 billion will be the equivalent of $50,000 that far in the future.
And then they're going to put my likeness on slot machines.
And I'm going to, it's going to be like, and we're all going to be on it.
And it's literally going to be like, you know, like that weird rewind thing they do.
And then you hit a jackpot, and then I'm doing that weird dance I did from like 2020.
phil labonte
It's going to be a poker themed slot machine.
It's going to be Tim with like a full houseman.
tim pool
No, it's going to be me going like this that everyone made a meme out of.
unidentified
Civil War.
What?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to, yeah, you get, you get like three, you get three pool waters.
No, I was going to say, I was going to go for a Turkish Ross.
I'll just say 1911s.
unidentified
They go, and it goes, Civil War.
tim pool
This is eager.
And then like stolen gold comes in.
tate brown
No, with all these slot machines, like I've now been.
tim pool
No, no, they're super chats.
Yeah, it's like you're sitting in there and like the reel is it's a chat going up.
Oh, this dude, I gotta, we gotta make this.
tate brown
Mega slots.
unidentified
Bro, this is legit.
tim pool
Legit.
So basically, have you guys ever played a slot bonus game?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So there's one that's really popular.
It's called Huff and Puff.
And the way it works is it's a bunch of pigs.
There's a big bed wolf.
And then the reels spin in the slot machine.
And if you get a hard hat, it will create a straw house.
And then if another hard hat hits, it makes a wood house.
And another one makes a brick house.
And the mansion has golden bricks.
So like, there's a lot of slot games where stupid thing happens.
This is perfect.
Ours, the reels, turns into the chat feed, and you see chat going up, and they're saying things like, you know, a juice box and 7,000, 7,000, things like that.
But then a super chat comes in for like 20 bucks, and it goes like you checked out.
You just had a kid, adds to the count.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Like, another baby, 50 bucks comes.
unidentified
We got to make this.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I want my slot machine.
unidentified
Can I vibe code this?
tate brown
This is, I will say, like, I've been exposed to like the slot machine world.
If you're playing slots, if you've played slots in the last year, I want you.
I don't want to hear you mouthing off about Coco Melon ever again because the sensory overload when I'm looking at these.
rogan dc draino ohandley
It's so good, though.
tate brown
It's like, yeah, I just feel like I'm like DMT now.
tim pool
There's a Wizard of Oz one.
Yeah, and it's and it's got all the actors in it and like the Wicked Witch.
And I'm just like, you will, well, you will live to see horror, uh, man-made horrors beyond your comprehension is an understatement.
Like, could you imagine if you were able to bring a visage of the future to the people who are filming The Wizard of Oz and be like, this is what you have wrought.
This is your legacy.
Old ladies sitting down going, they'd all commit suicide.
And have you ever seen the meme where it's all the old people and they're just going like this on the button?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're just mash.
That's that's that's casinos.
tate brown
It's literally.
phil labonte
It's just horrifying.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Having the time of their lives.
tim pool
And then the numbers went and then the casinos numbers went.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's horrifying.
tate brown
And no one's grandchildren are being called either.
unidentified
That's not calling them either.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I'm going to make a slot machine called Somalian Suitcases.
phil labonte
Oh, there you go.
rogan dc draino ohandley
And when you win the date, you can't just put the money out the window.
tim pool
Bro, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Like, dude, somebody watching can make this.
It's dealer, no deal, but instead of beautiful models, it's a bunch of Somalis.
unidentified
That'd be so sick.
Horrible.
tate brown
That'd be awesome.
phil labonte
You rocked.
tim pool
You got to figure out which one's smuggling the $700 million through the airport.
rogan dc draino ohandley
And all the cases have a million bucks in them.
tate brown
Tim Waltz is the banker trying to cut deals.
tim pool
It's varying degree.
No, it's got to be like dealer no deal.
It's varying degrees of fraud revenue.
So it could be as low as $10, but as high as $700 million.
tate brown
It is like hot girls, but they're on bird cuts, so you can't see anything.
tim pool
Somali fraud dealer no deal.
tate brown
We got to do Somali dealer no deal.
They're all in their letterboxes.
He don't know what's going on.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I think she's hot out of it.
Get on it.
tate brown
She sounds the way she opened that case.
unidentified
It was hot.
I don't know.
tim pool
It's only funny if you know about the story with the briefcases full of cash in the airport from this past week.
Otherwise, people are like, why do they have briefcases full of cash?
Because that's what they were doing.
tate brown
Yeah, we just got to do game show consulting.
Like Tim Castirl, it's cool and hell, but we should just pay people to call in.
It's like we have some game show ideas.
tim pool
Can we just AI this?
tate brown
Can we just AI Somali dealer?
tim pool
What's a Groc could do it, right?
tate brown
I'm sure.
tim pool
Bro, I'm going for it.
tate brown
Dude, Groc's like the sexually assaulted people.
It'll do anything, dude.
tim pool
I saw that.
It's like some dude was like, put me in a bikini and it did.
tate brown
It put that picture we took with Chrissy Mara, it put all of us in a bikini.
I just saw it.
I was like, can I sue?
phil labonte
No, you don't.
tim pool
How do I?
How do you, where's the video button?
Anyway, we'll do this in the members only show where we goof off and waste everyone's time.
tate brown
So true.
tim pool
We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chats, my friends.
So smash the like button.
Share the show with every single person you have ever met in your life.
Bro, I've got phone numbers in my phone book going back 20 years, and I don't even know who these people are.
I'm just going to go in my phone book.
phil labonte
It's a random person.
tim pool
And I'm going to swipe one week just randomly in my contact list.
phil labonte
And just shove the link in there and don't say anything else.
unidentified
All right, let's see.
tim pool
Who do I have in here?
I've got Brian Callan, Candace Owens, Jenk Uger.
tate brown
Make a group chat.
unidentified
It's not even a joke.
tim pool
It's actually my phone book.
phil labonte
Just send all those following links.
tim pool
Let's see.
unidentified
Bill Maher, Chris Povlovsky.
Who is it?
phil labonte
I think he knows.
unidentified
What's that?
phil labonte
I think Chris knows.
tim pool
He does.
Alan West, Colleen Noir.
Coronamek.
Shout outs.
But I'm actually trying to find, oh man, Eric Hippo.
That's the guy who founded Huffington Post.
Bro.
Wow.
Dude, it is so nuts that there are phone numbers in here that just make no sense.
phil labonte
Send them all a link.
unidentified
I want to find a weird name that I'm like, who is this?
tim pool
A name that, like, if I said, I wouldn't be upset about calling them out.
unidentified
Who's Rick Smith?
There's too many of them.
phil labonte
That could be anybody.
tim pool
It could be anybody.
It could be literally anybody.
tate brown
It's like half the country.
tim pool
Could be CMS.
I don't even know who that is.
phil labonte
That's from Metroid, right?
tim pool
Siamus.
phil labonte
Siamus.
Samus.
tim pool
CMS.
tate brown
CMS.
I think that's like the medication, right?
phil labonte
Maybe.
tate brown
I thought that was Miriko's Veins or something.
phil labonte
I thought that was the hero in Metroid, the game Metroid.
tim pool
That's Samus.
phil labonte
Samus.
Okay.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I had some weird name in my phone that was spelled Siamus.
Yeah, S-E-A-M-E.
unidentified
Seamus.
What?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Seamus.
tim pool
That's how you spell Seamus.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Siamus.
tim pool
Is that who that was?
rogan dc draino ohandley
I think that's a good question.
tate brown
That's how you cut it.
phil labonte
Freedom tunes.
tate brown
You can help us with the slot machine.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
That's actually a really good idea for him.
unidentified
Somali dealer notes here.
tim pool
Okay.
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Dan Visha says, kamikaze Karens.
DMT Laser Controversy 00:03:03
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Indeed.
phil labonte
Accurate.
tim pool
I love that.
You know that image of Andrew Tate when he went like this?
And then they use it against him, not realizing that he did it so that they would.
I like that face.
It's funny.
Let's see what we got here.
Crazy says, all politicians, DAs, protesting organizations, police, et cetera, that were part of the cities allowing riots need investigated and conversations from that time collected as evidence.
Acreed.
Shanitch Walder says, Dog, we really need Ian on for this DMT laser segment.
Ian's quarantined.
For those who don't know, last week, Mark and Kellen and our crew were T-boned by a bus.
They were in Uber.
I guess we're just going to get into it.
I guess I'll just tell everybody what happened.
They're concerned.
You know, I'll just tell you the full story.
So it was told to me.
And again, this is hearsay because I was not there.
They got an Uber after dropping off a vehicle for work and were headed to the office when their driver exited an enter-only into oncoming traffic and was immediately T-boned by a bus, causing the vehicle to flip over and giving them pretty serious injuries.
Mark's got skull fractures and was pretty bad, pretty big up.
He's been released.
He had a brain bleed.
This is nuts.
Kellen was severely concussed, but was discharged.
And we urged them to get a second opinion and get taken care of.
So they're resting.
But in the hospital room where Mark was at, there was a person who was hospitalized with pneumonia and so had a serious illness which triggered pneumonia.
So we said, if you went in that room, quarantine because we don't want to spread that to the babies and to the people who work here and their kids.
So better safe than sorry.
And so that's why Ian is currently out because we asked him just to lay back for a couple weeks to make sure he doesn't get sick before coming in.
So I actually think like three or four days is probably fine.
So maybe he'll be here this week.
But, you know, everybody else is healing up and hopefully they'll be okay.
And we're going to figure out what all of that means.
unidentified
But that's what happened.
All right.
tim pool
Roflo says those drugged out laser people remind me of that viral video from 15 years ago.
Whoa, it's a double full-on rainbow all the way that he keeps repeating.
unidentified
What does it mean?
I remember that.
tim pool
Yep.
That sounds like a good t-shirt.
Drugged out laser people.
Those drugged out laser people.
El Hefe says DMT is for pussies.
Salvia is for real men.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tate brown
Oh, gosh.
Who was the guy that was talking about how he became a ceiling fan and like observed his family for 30 years as a ceiling fan when he took a bunch of salvia?
unidentified
Is that true?
tim pool
Yeah, I believe that.
tate brown
I think Ari Shafir.
Ari Shafi'ire had like a crazy story involving Salvia.
Korean Voice Mystery 00:03:46
tate brown
Yeah, it might have been the ceiling fan story.
It was something like he observed something as an inanimate object for like 20 years and then he came to and he's like, I experienced a whole nother life on the other side.
tim pool
I've heard that about DMT a lot.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
The first thing I ever heard about DMT was a long time ago.
And it was a story about a guy who did a massive dose and then fell down into his sofa and like leaned back.
And then when he came to, he was having a panic attack because he was like, where's my wife, my daughter, like my kids?
And apparently lived like 30 years on another planet where he had a family.
And then he came to and they were gone and he was like freaking out.
phil labonte
I don't see like so many people are like, oh, this stuff is great.
Blah, blah, blah.
You should try this.
And I'm just like, I don't understand what the appeal is.
tate brown
It's like, dude, you should give yourself lifetime trauma.
It's right.
unidentified
Exactly.
phil labonte
Really?
Come on.
tate brown
Yeah, I'll stick with Dai Chok.
phil labonte
Thank you very much.
tate brown
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Not Robbie says, Blaming the Jews is a psyop to obfuscate the real problem.
Boomers.
No, it's the Koreans, dude.
And I'm allowed to say that because I'm Korean.
unidentified
You can't say that.
tate brown
You know what?
I'm willing to break containment and say it's the Koreans.
unidentified
Koreans.
tate brown
What's the currency in Korea?
tim pool
I forget.
tate brown
Because we've got to figure out who.
It's $7,000.
tim pool
It's the Korean one, isn't it?
tate brown
$7,000 on Korea bucks.
tim pool
Yeah, it's the one.
tate brown
K-buck.
tim pool
The Korean one.
K-Bucks.
tate brown
Wow.
tim pool
One Korean won is worth 0.00068 of a dollar.
tate brown
Well, what's seven grand and Korean won?
tim pool
Let's find out.
That's a big number.
What?
Dude.
I can't see it because I got to zoom out.
It is one, it is 10,307,361 won.
unidentified
Really?
tate brown
Everyone start chatting.
tim pool
Sounds like a hard deposit.
Currency to use.
tate brown
Everyone starts chatting that with whatever the symbol is for the won.0063 of a dollar.
What is going on in Asia?
Can't you guys just round up?
tim pool
What about South African Rand?
phil labonte
Oh my God.
Wait, what?
Those are problems.
tate brown
Guys, I'm starting to think South Africa is not doing too hot.
That's just me.
phil labonte
That's just me.
tate brown
What are these white people complaining about?
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
The West African frank.
tate brown
You lied a tired.
unidentified
Dude, why are these worth more than it's crazy?
phil labonte
Rand's worth more than a yen.
tim pool
A rand?
tate brown
You know, when you go to Zimbabwe and you go to the ATMs there, like when I was there, I was like, oh, this is cool.
phil labonte
They laugh at you.
tate brown
Well, they will laugh.
It just pulls a U.S. dollar.
unidentified
What are these?
tim pool
I don't even, you know what's really dumb?
It's like, none of these words mean anything.
The Angolan Kwanza literally means nothing to me.
unidentified
Yeah, literally.
You can call it a dollar.
tim pool
You can call it the Angolan dollar.
It's me.
Unit of currency.
tate brown
Toilet paper.
tim pool
Toilet paper.
What about we want to go to Venezuela?
Come on.
Wait, it's not here.
I can't look up Venezuela.
rogan dc draino ohandley
The stock market is up like a microphone.
tim pool
Oh, no.
He's called the Bolivar Fuerte is that way.
tate brown
Gosh.
unidentified
Bolivar.
tate brown
A bunch of LARPers.
unidentified
No, yeah.
tim pool
You can't look up Venezuela.
phil labonte
Rubles worth less than a penny.
0.013 of a dollar.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Bolivar Fuerte to the U.S. trading rat carcasses down there.
tim pool
It's worth a third of a cent.
tate brown
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
Oh, man.
tate brown
Yeah, they're doing great.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
The Iranian Real is worth zero to the Euro.
tim pool
It's just zero.
phil labonte
It's.000024 U.S. dollars.
I would be pissed off.
tate brown
I would be a little upset if I were Iranian.
Yeah.
tim pool
Did YouTube just nuke all the super chats?
unidentified
Oh, you there?
phil labonte
What are you doing?
tim pool
They're there.
tate brown
There's a Korean voice on the other line.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
Chief Coreana says, YouTube won't let me say the U.S. should raise arms against Somalia, UK, Canada, and France.
Legitimate Force 00:04:28
tim pool
It just literally did.
What do you mean?
You had to say it a different way.
What do I say?
Kitsun Trask says, Minnesota statutes 609.066.
If a driver accelerates a vehicle toward an officer, the officer does not need to wait for physical impact before responding with deadly force, signed by Tim Waltz in 2020.
Is that true?
phil labonte
I don't know if that's true or not, but generally, you don't have to wait.
How much time the police have to, you know, they don't have to wait to get hit by the car.
Like, oh, they're going to hit me by the car.
rogan dc draino ohandley
So many videos where in like less than two seconds, a cop is hit and flipped.
tim pool
Yeah.
There's that one of you from Baltimore where it's literally one second.
Yes.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Yeah.
tim pool
The woman is in front of the car and then it raves.
She goes, ah, she's crushed.
Dead instantly.
rogan dc draino ohandley
This cop, I mean, he was extremely skilled.
He had a phone in one hand.
unidentified
Yeah.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Pulls out the gun, dead on shot, still gets out of the way.
You know, like it.
tim pool
Well, he got hit.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, he got hit, but he didn't get run over.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Creamed.
tim pool
Well, I mean, I think the reason he didn't get run over is because of the ice.
rogan dc draino ohandley
No, exactly.
The tires were spinning.
tim pool
The tire spins, but when it does make contact, he slides backwards.
If there's no ice on the ground, his feet have traction.
The wheels have traction.
It goes straight forward, hits him, and he does not slide back.
He falls over.
tate brown
If it's eight degrees warmer, they're celebrating that officer's death.
unidentified
Yeah.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Yep.
phil labonte
Yep.
But Angry Cops has a great breakdown of it.
You should go watch that.
tim pool
And he basically said that she should not have tried to accelerate into an officer.
phil labonte
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ocean Wave says, in America, we believe in God-given rights.
We believe in freedom of religion.
Islam does not believe in freedom of religion.
It says individuals who choose to disrespect our culture should not be tolerated.
Yeah, I think there's, you know, like liberal, liberalism in its current context, not like classical liberalism, but the, or maybe it leads to this place.
But liberalism, as we describe it today in this country, ultimately ceases to exist.
That's just reality.
They don't have babies.
They kill their babies.
They transit their babies.
And then they invite in intolerant fundamentalist religions.
And there you go.
tate brown
Yep.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Self-destructive ideology.
tim pool
K-Toth Swiss says women crave Republican meat.
phil labonte
I mean, they just want masculine men that'll tell them no.
tate brown
Oh, I thought they were talking about like diet.
phil labonte
What kind of meat would be beef?
unidentified
Beef.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Cornpop says the last time I called the police, they 5150 the man.
phil labonte
Cornpop.
What?
tate brown
Cornpop's institutionalized?
tim pool
No, the guy he called the police on, I assume.
phil labonte
Oh, well.
tate brown
Interesting.
tim pool
Wolf says, I think the whole every fight you could avoid mentality is a civilizational level failure of the ish test.
It doesn't matter that it's logical, reasonable.
People subconsciously believe that you're full of ish if you won't throw hands about it.
Founding Fathers didn't want war.
Didn't declare independence until a year into the war.
In the Civil War, both sides avoided war and the South avoided war, but war happens.
The point is, if you can avoid the fight, you're winning.
The fights we do encounter, we could not avoid.
That's the reality.
Like, any good leader who intentionally gets his people into a war that causes catastrophic damage is a bad leader.
And there are bad leaders that they have wars of aggression or for resource capture, and they either fail or they didn't need it and they cause problems.
There's ego.
And then leaders who fight just wars because they have to protect their people and secure resources.
That's legitimate use of force.
It just depends.
Depends.
phil labonte
I mean, war is not something that most societies are after.
You know, they try to avoid it because the cost is, you know, the cost is significant, you know.
tim pool
The hat and beard show says, taken DMT before, there's no way you're writing anything down well on it.
Brain's Creating Stuff 00:05:57
tim pool
Bro, I fell into my own eye for 30 minutes on just 10 hits of Lucy.
DMT, if you know, you know.
phil labonte
Yeah, that sounds terrible.
tim pool
Dude, you gotta take it.
That's the point.
It's like, it's not falsifiable.
It's like, well, you know, I can't really write it down because I'm on drugs.
Like, yeah, well, I can't trust you're seeing anything.
You're seeing, you're tripping.
Like, I don't know what to tell you, you know, like you're seeing shapes and geometric nonsense.
Your brain's creating this stuff.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Even what they were describing did not seem that profound.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like snake skins.
Like, it is to me, too.
unidentified
Yes.
tate brown
That happens to me when I take melatonin and then go to sleep.
You just get like the most bizarre dreams.
It's like, like, just do that.
Just do that.
If you're really going to be confused for a few hours, you can just do that.
That's all these people are like, dude, this is sick.
You take this, like, this weird thing and you just get really confused for a few hours, dude.
You'll love it.
So it's like, oh, yeah, dude, it's awesome.
tim pool
Salty says laser light drivers are digital, so it would make sense that the same driver would produce the same binary code, but theoretically would be generated too fast to be comprehended normally, but could be interpreted by pattern recognition at the fringe.
The thing is, in those videos, they were claiming that when you move the laser up, you got different code.
That the code is all in the wall, but the light is exposing it.
So, you know, it's not the laser that produces it.
It's a laser that exposes code that's already there.
So theoretically, they should be able to isolate a section of drywall, put the laser perfectly on it, and every time see the exact same symbols, memorize them, and write them down later on or whatever.
Or it's just unfalsifiable.
tate brown
Or it's just contractors cranking people and they're just putting invisible ink on the wall.
tim pool
That the lasers highlight.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Got them.
tim pool
Or the drywall just has, like, it's stamped from.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
It's like, whoa, whoa, it says DuPont on there.
tim pool
Has anyone ever actually looked into drywall without lasers?
phil labonte
What do you mean, looked into it?
tim pool
Like, you know, they're putting the eye up against the wall and they're on drugs.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
Have they considered doing that without the laser?
phil labonte
I have not.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
I'm seeing Georgia Pacific.
tate brown
What does it mean?
tim pool
Let's see.
I says, Tim, why don't you just call Ian by his name?
Well, for Ian Carroll, because I was trying to make a general point about how some of these ideas are pretty dumb.
But yeah, excuse me, Ian Carroll claimed I was trying to buy the Daily Wire, which is ridiculous because I could afford way more than the Daily Wire, and they're just not worth it for me.
It wasted my time.
I'm over here trying to acquire Microsoft.
What are you guys talking about?
phil labonte
He's trying to buy Ben Shapiro personally, like the actual human being, Ben Shapiro.
tim pool
That's right.
Negotiating with Israel.
tate brown
Yeah, the whole issue.
tim pool
That's why I met with NYAO.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Listen, I need Ben on my show.
And like, no, listen, Ben works for us.
unidentified
Not anymore.
tim pool
He doesn't.
Ben goes on his show, and he's like, I got to tell you what Timcast is the best show ever.
Like, we have to fight for Timcast.
tate brown
I'm speaking.
If I was being bothered by the best.
phil labonte
Just imagine Ben like outbag shining Tim's cars.
You know, we'll polish.
tim pool
No, no, he'd go on his show be advocating for him.
Oh, okay.
tate brown
Tim goes.
tim pool
He'd no longer show for Israel.
Be like, we need to protect Timcast at all costs.
tate brown
Tim goes in there like, look, I heard you guys run in the world.
I need your best guys.
I need to build a team.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Listen, that was a good BB impression.
tate brown
That was so good.
unidentified
All right, what do we got here?
tim pool
Honky Kong says, I think the outside segments of Seinfeld are pre-filmed outside and shown to the live audience for reaction.
Yeah, I think so, too.
That makes sense.
tate brown
Thank you, Honky Kong.
tim pool
It was a good point.
Like the famous episode where the two vehicles are trying to take the spot, but one's pulling in and one's backing in.
And everybody knows you can't pull headfirst into a spot.
You can't park that way.
So that was clearly the problem.
And then they stood out there for seven hours.
Although, the best episode ever was, of course, when George is eating a Snickers bar with a fork and a knife.
Remember that one?
tate brown
That one's a good one.
tim pool
And they're like, George, are you eating a candy bar with a fork and knife?
And he goes, what do you eat with your hands?
Like an animal?
And then all of a sudden, everybody's doing it everywhere.
They're just using a fork and a knife for everything.
tate brown
It's like the whole character and the entire premise of him is just that his wife sucks.
rogan dc draino ohandley
It's the best show ever.
tim pool
I do like how George basically figures out the reverse, the inverse Kramer.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where he's like, if I do the opposite of whatever I do, I succeed.
That was a good show.
The laugh trick.
unidentified
It's me.
tim pool
I just can't do it.
tate brown
So good.
Has anyone observed Seinfeld as a funny show?
Is that a unique off-the-wall observation for the audience?
It's the greatest show ever made.
We should just turn this.
We should turn Timcast into where we just discuss sitcoms.
Like, everyone is Raymond's tomorrow.
tim pool
I've never seen that show.
tate brown
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, I've never seen it.
tate brown
Oh, it's like every episode.
It's the most miserable.
Like, nothing's ever going right.
Like, there's one episode where they go to Italy and he's just like, oh, I can't find a good cup of coffee anywhere.
tim pool
Isa says, I was talking about Ian for the DMT.
Oh, he means Ian Crossland.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Neglectful Sausages, as supreme dictator of Future USA, I decree our currency will be called the Ayn Rand.
Ayn Rand?
unidentified
Ooh, that's pretty good.
tim pool
You know, there's only one reason I'm doing any of these guys.
The reason why I have this show and I've worked so hard is because I want to be president.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
So that I can ban cilantro.
That's it.
Executive order.
And then I resign.
tate brown
Do you want to know why cilantro is the biggest example of how mass migration has really changed our country quite extensively?
It's because everyone's grandparents calls it coriander.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tate brown
And then when a lot of Mexican people came here, everyone started saying cilantro.
tim pool
Well, isn't coriander like the stem?
tate brown
I think it's the same thing.
tim pool
And cilantro is the same.
tate brown
The British call it coriander.
tim pool
Well, I don't care what they call it.
We'll add it to the banned list.
Coriander cilantro.
tate brown
Can you stop dead naming cilantro, please?
tim pool
And what else?
Across the Pond 00:04:31
tim pool
Fennel and Caraway Seeds?
tate brown
Really?
tim pool
Gone.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
Gone.
tate brown
You're dictator.
tim pool
Rye Bread?
I see what you're smuggling in.
Gone.
Straight to gym.
tate brown
It's actually Daniel Brad or Elijah.
What do they call it?
unidentified
Elijah Brad?
What?
It's just like.
tim pool
Okay, everybody, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show and talk about some shenanigans.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimKist.
Should go to rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL to watch, which is going to be a lot of fun.
DC Draino.
You want to shout anything out?
rogan dc draino ohandley
Me personally, or your social media?
tim pool
I don't know.
You're selling on the books or something.
rogan dc draino ohandley
No, not selling any books.
Can't read that well.
No, I'm on DC Draino.
I'm on all the major platforms.
And thanks for having me on, man.
It was really fun.
unidentified
Right on.
tate brown
All right.
It was Ezekiel Brad.
That's what it's like the most disgusting thing.
tim pool
They put fennel in it.
tate brown
They put everything you just named is in it.
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tim pool
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Gone.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Progressive.
phil labonte
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This is the most important story I've ever seen in my life.
Elon.
Elon Musk wants custody of child with Ashley St. Clair.
Bro, all my friends are fighting.
What's going on?
Why are all my friends fighting with each other?
I'm not friends with Elon, but I just mean like Milo's yelling at everybody.
Milo And His Friends 00:12:50
phil labonte
Well, that's Milo, though.
tim pool
Yeah, I know, but like, you know, Milo used to be friends with a lot of these people, too.
And then people are yelling at me like they want me to be mad at Milo, but I'm not mad at Milo.
I like Milo.
rogan dc draino ohandley
Milo yells at his friends, to be fair.
tim pool
He does.
He's yelled at me before, but it's okay.
I like Milo.
And we had him on the show, and I got yelled at by a lot of people.
And they're like, why would you have him on the show?
He said such awful things about so many people.
And I'm like, but the bigger issue is why are y'all fighting?
So here's what happened.
Ashley St. Clair, she is my friend.
And that's why I'm like, it's just crazy to see.
Like, she's been on the show several times.
She's been really good.
She's helped us out tremendously.
And everybody's going after her.
But then she put out this tweet where I don't think they have the actual tweet pulled up.
I could pull up her actual tweet.
Let's pull up the actual tweet.
Because people are calling her out because she changed her opinion.
Okay, this is not it.
She changed her opinion on, why can't I?
Why is this not so easy to just pull up?
This is so dumb.
It's just all it is is talking.
Okay, this is ridiculous.
Let's see.
In her tweet, she said she apologizes for a transphobia and stuff like that.
And people have called her out because, why can't I find this?
It's like not coming up.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I'm Googling myself or I'm looking on X myself and I can't.
tim pool
I just want to pull up and read it.
Okay, here we go.
We got it.
She tweeted this.
Dark woke because the other option is boot licking feds plus pedophiles plus nerds.
Someone said, You've previously engaged in blatant transphobia.
How do you feel about trans people in the wake of noticing how the far right truly is?
And she said, I feel immense guilt for my role and even more guilt that things I have said in the past may have caused my son's sister more pain.
I don't really know how to make amends for many of these things, but I've been trying incredibly hard privately to learn and advocate for those within the trans community that have hurt.
I also haven't said much on this because I have gone back and forth over whether my voice would be helpful on the issue since it will be framed as disingenuous or just turning because I'm scorned.
Even this reply will become right-wing hysteria, but yeah, I am sorry.
Let me know how I can help.
In response to this, Elon Musk said, I want custody of our child, which is really weird because apparently the dispute, as far as I understood it, was that she wanted him to sign his name on the birth certificate so that her son would have a dad.
And I guess he didn't want to do it.
I don't exactly know what's true because I didn't ask either of them.
This is just what I've heard.
But then he didn't want to do it.
So then she got into it with him.
Then the news broke that they had a secret love child and he wanted privacy.
And then he cut off most of the money.
He was giving her, what was it, like millions of dollars or something?
phil labonte
I heard it was like a million dollars a month.
tim pool
Was it a million a month?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't think it was a million a month.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It might have been.
phil labonte
It was a lot.
tim pool
I thought it was like 500K or something.
phil labonte
Maybe.
rogan dc draino ohandley
It says it right there.
tim pool
Oh, it does.
$500,000 a year.
Yeah.
$2.5 million up front in $50.
Yeah, it was $500K.
He allegedly offered her $15 million to stay silent about paternity.
And I guess the issue was she was like, but that means my kids, like, that's kind of messed up.
You know, your kid's going to have like a secret daddy doesn't know about.
No one can ever know.
That's like a weird thing, weird position to be in.
But then all of a sudden, like, people chose sides.
I think for a variety of reasons, Ashley St. Claire is not really a powerful person.
So the right lined up behind Elon and against her.
And then she got roasted and attacked.
Now Elon is saying, they say she had to change her heart.
She took to X.
Oh, they do have the tweet.
So do they point out what Elon said?
Elon, do they have a quote from Elon here?
I don't know.
He took a break from mocking victims of non-consensual porn by threatening to sue his alleged baby mama, Ashley St. Clair, for custody of their one-year-old son.
His comments were prompted by her apologizing for views.
Now, everyone's saying, yo, she called Elon's son her son's sister.
And I'll just say this.
And again, like I have no problem saying Ashley St. Clair is a friend of mine and she's been on the show.
We like she's helped us out with organizing stuff.
We had talked to her about work and things like that.
None of that has changed.
And I will never betray a friend over whatever is going on here.
But I will speak publicly about high-profile public events.
And I will say this.
It is patently obvious that Ashley St. Clair's shift is because she has no opportunity with the right anymore.
That's it.
When Joey Salads did that prank where he hired black people to smash up a car, I just went off on him and said, fuck you, like you're a grifter, blah, blah, blah.
I was in Sweden and he was there and he was like, hey, we should meet up and do something.
I was like, fuck you, bro.
You're fake news.
Like, you give us all a bad name.
And then he was like, well, fuck you too.
Then.
And then people were tweeting at me being like, bro, fuck you.
Don't talk shit about Joey Sales, blah, blah, blah.
And then I was like, fuck these people.
And after a little while, I realized something.
I was like, it's not even about Joey.
It's about the people that follow him that like him.
They're not mad at me and they're siding with him.
And I'm like, if I don't give forgiveness, then the only direction he can go is the other direction.
So then I hit him up, apologized, and said, let's meet up.
We met up, shook hands, and I said, I shouldn't have done that.
You apologized.
You're right.
You deserve a second chance.
And then I said, everybody, if he's saying he's going to do the right thing, we have to let him do the right thing.
There's got to be space for people to be forgiven.
Otherwise, he'll just go whatever direction he can go.
And if we are saying we're not going to work with him ever again, then he's going to find a way to live.
This is exactly what we're seeing now.
Ashley St. Clair was kicked out of the, was excised by the right or canceled for things completely unrelated to politics because she had a kid with Elon.
She got attacked for being, you know, a variety of things.
So what do you think is going to happen?
She is going to go the other direction because people need to live.
She's exiled from her community.
She's insulted, denigrated, and, you know, is cut off from funding.
So what do you do?
She's going to get love bombed by the left and she's going to go for it.
And we have to create a space for her to be able to exist on the right.
Otherwise, this is what you get.
So congratulations, right?
All my friends are fighting with each other.
I'm not doing it.
And I mean, I'm half joking when I'm like frustrated by it.
But when the whole thing came out about Ashley St. Clair and Elon and people are shit talking her, I'm like, bro, she's been nothing but nice to me.
She's helped us with business stuff.
It is fucking insane to me that there are people who are also friends with her who started attacking her on Twitter.
I'm like, what is, what is this?
I'm not interested in this, right?
Like Luke is shitting on Dan Bongino.
And I told Luke, I was like, bro, why are you attacking Dan Bongino?
And, you know, not to air whatever private opinion about Luke or whatever, but Luke, I'm going to tell people what you're saying.
It's an important discussion.
I don't think Luke will care.
He said, Bongino let us all down.
He was supposed to go and he was he was the guy.
If not Bongino, but who, then who?
And he gets in and he doesn't get the Epstein stuff.
He says Epstein killed himself.
He doesn't get any corrupt individuals arrested.
The investigations aren't happening.
He let me down.
I'm pissed off about it.
But then he said, you're probably right, though.
I mean, maybe I shouldn't.
And I'm like, dude, Dan Bongino will talk to you on the phone about this.
Like, he's going to go on a show.
He's going to talk about all of this.
He's not like Hillary Clinton, who is unreachable, deep state shill garbage.
If Dan, like, why are my friends fighting with each other?
We're going to lose.
phil labonte
There's no reason for people to, like, you can, you can have your problems with the job that Dan Bongino did or the things that he didn't do that you were hoping, but that's no reason to be like, oh, he's a bad person.
And of course he's in on it.
Like, that's where it gets like, that's crazy talk, right?
Like, I don't like the job that he did.
And then, or being like, oh, no, he's actually in on it.
And of course he's defending these people and hiding this.
It's like, look, man, you have no idea whether or not he actually could do the things that you hoped for him to do.
Just because you didn't get what you wanted doesn't mean Bongino is like automatically the bad guy.
That just seems totally crazy to me.
rogan dc draino ohandley
I think, I think, X, there's something about X and X users that they love a good pile on.
And when someone is, you know, the witch being burned at the stake or the female or male witch, you see a lot of people come out of the woodwork to kind of join in on the beatdown.
I personally am not drawn to that type of stuff.
I sometimes naturally will defend the person in the beatdown a little bit.
But, you know, it's a X, especially the bigger voices.
I mean, it's an arena of warriors.
And we were in kind of a slow year.
It was the medicine year where we had to, you know, slur down the tariffs and all these foreign policy positions that are being, and we wanted domestic stuff.
And now it's really starting to kind of come back.
You're starting to see some of the results.
The economy is really picking up.
The tariffs, okay, they didn't have the inflation.
Inflation's going down.
You know, gas prices are coming down.
Home prices are, you know, mortgage rates are coming down.
So you're starting to see the results.
And we're starting to kind of unify around a common flag again, which is the midterms.
It's like, okay, although we have our beef, we sure have a lot worse problems on the left.
And so I think once we kind of have this unifying, you know, election season again, things are going to start to smooth out.
But people got to remember, man, it's a small world.
It's a really small world.
If you have, you know, 50, 100,000 followers, like people remember when you talk shit.
And it's not the best advice when you actually have a microphone.
I know it might feel good in the moment, but that has long-standing effects.
tim pool
Well, look, there are people that I think are scuzzy, scumbag, evil pieces of trash, and I'll call them out every day.
I don't expect to ever be friends with these people unless they come around and beg for forgiveness.
And then, you know, we'll consider it based on what they've done.
Liberal podcasters will lie, cheat, and steal, and make shit up.
But what I will say is there are a couple of comments on the Rumble.
One person said Bongino is dead to me.
And they said he lied through his teeth about the Epstein stuff and protected elite pedophiles.
So what, you know, he's got no credibility.
And there's no strong argument for Dan.
And I have no problem saying that.
And I got no beef with Dan.
I think Dan did the best that he could.
My view of it is Dan went in and failed because sometimes you can't move a mountain.
The idea that he was expected to move a mountain, tried and failed, makes him a bad guy, I think is a silly thing.
But people are like, yeah, but he still claimed Epstein killed himself.
And I'm like, well, he's going to have to own up to that.
However, he can own up to that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But there are also people that are attacking Ashley St. Clair because of things she had done in the past, saying that she's, you know, loose, promiscuous, or whatever it is.
I'm just going to say this, dude.
Like, bro, I don't care.
You can see, like, I've got friends.
You know, how do I put this?
I don't want to air anyone's private dirty business, but what I'll say is this: there was a guy who was a white nationalist and he was friends with a liberal.
And when the media found out the liberal was friends with him, the liberal responded with you, fuck you, he's my friend.
And then I was like, wow.
And I'm like, it's kind of wild.
That's how it used to be back in the day with the free speech stuff.
This is like 2012 when there were actually liberals.
I guess people like me, that they were just like, you're allowed to have stupid opinions.
Like, if I have a friend who goes to the dark side and believes dumb, crazy shit, they will still be my friend.
And I will, I will try to help them out.
And in this regard, I'm going to say it again.
Like, as far as it goes, Ashley, Ashley never literally never did anything to me at all.
And my only concern here is that it appears she's changing her opinion because she's getting piled on.
And that's kind of what I am addressing.
And so I'll reach out to her.
And I don't think that she should.
But I also don't expect a human being who is a social creature to just be left destitute.
If the right wants to become the woke, then you're cooked.
And so my warning with all of this is what made the right work, especially for moderates, was you were able to be forgiven and the left, you would not.
If the right becomes retarded, and starts canceling people and the left becomes forgiving and sane in the corporate press, then the right populist movement is cooked and illegal immigration is going to flood this country and a bunch of bad shit's going to come.
But with all that being said, we should go to callers.
And let's see who we got here.
We'll start with our friend.
What do we got here?
We're going to start with Krandorz.
What is going on?
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