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Oct. 23, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Democrat Press IS DEAD, Timcast JOINS Pentagon Press Corps Sparking OUTRAGE | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Today, the Pentagon announced the new press corps, for which Timcast is formally included.
And we received this memo.
I had tweeted about receiving the press memo.
Many of you may have seen the story.
The New York Times and many of these journalists were aghast.
The Pentagon created a new set of rules.
And I was curious.
I said, wow, they're really trying to end the First Amendment?
So certainly, I was shocked to find when I got the memo, there's literally nothing in it.
I'm not joking.
The memo is very boring.
We actually have it.
The New York Times published it.
I think like 30% of the memo is telling you how to park your car.
What is at odds with the issue for all of these news outlets that were like, I refuse to sign it, is that it says you will not solicit secret, confidential, or classified information, which is already a crime.
That's what they prosecuted Julian Assange for.
Journalists can receive documents from individuals who bring it to them unsolicited, but journalists that work towards the facilitation of leaking are now complicit in those crimes.
Or at least that was the claim being made six, seven years ago when the corporate press was cheering on charges against Julian Assange.
So you don't get to have your cake.
You don't get to cake your cake.
You don't get to have your cake.
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So you got to wait a minute or two, and then you can say more terrifying things.
But you get the point.
You understand what I'm saying?
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As of right now, there are massive protests happening in New York, and we colluded with Nick Shirley to make sure Nate Friedman wouldn't be there and would be here instead.
@natefriedman97
Thanks for having me, Tim.
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
@natefriedman97
I'm a boots on the ground journalist, independent, and I follow the money.
I expose some paid protesters, and I also ask people who they're voting for, you know?
tim pool
Indeed, indeed, I watch a lot of your videos on Instagram, especially the ones where you track down these paid protesters.
And I love it because I've made reference to this along.
I haven't done street stuff for a while because at a certain point, too many followers, they start targeting you, and you move out of that space.
But we knew these people, we called them the tourists.
When people like Luke Rodkowski and I would go on the ground, you see the exact same people at every single protest, no matter what city you're in.
And in fact, Turkey, even China.
That's how insane it is.
I have questions.
So it's great that you're here.
And I was kidding, but Nick is actually on the ground covering those protests.
And we'll probably take a look at what's going on in New York in a moment.
But it should be interesting.
Elada's here.
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
Nate, so thank you so much for coming on.
I think your work's invaluable.
I keep up with all your paid protester coverage.
I think it's very important and good.
So kudos to you.
My name is Alada Liyahu.
I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast, also Jewish Affairs correspondent, and now also the Pentagon reporter.
tim pool
That's right.
elad eliahu
So I feel like Mark Arubio just getting all these new job titles.
What's up, Brett?
brett dasovic
What's going on, guys?
Brett, normally doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m., but we get a bunch of stuff to get into today.
tate brown
True, Tate Brown here.
What's up, guys?
Tate Brown holding it down.
Great panel tonight.
So I'm excited.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's a story from the Washington Post: The Pentagon announces a new right-wing press corps after a mass walkout.
A new crop of conservative media and influencers, including the Gateway Pundit, the Post-Millennial, Human Events, and National Pulse, signed an agreement with the Defense Department.
The corporate press staged a walkout of the Pentagon.
And I don't believe for a second it had anything to do with the Pentagon's policies.
I think it has everything to do with the cult.
Apparently, there were reporters who did not care and said, I have no problem signing this.
And they were bullied by other media organizations, threats of being blacklisted, never working in this town again.
And a lot of these journalists were like, okay, I'll do whatever you say.
That's why they're mad at us.
And I can prove it to you.
It's actually really simple logic.
I'll say this because I won't bury the lead.
We applied for a press credential.
Thank you and have a nice day.
That's it.
We've never done any reporting from the Pentagon.
We are not an investigative news organization.
We are a podcast, news, commentary, and interview show.
We do not have journalists meeting with sources in parking garages while they kick over a manila folder with secret documents.
We don't do any of that.
At most, what we'll do is we'll say, Mr. Secretary, recently there were a drone strike on Venezuelan boats that you said were cartel and drug traffickers.
The media is arguing that these were civilians.
Can you comment?
That's the most that we actually do.
That is journalism.
It's just not investigative journalism.
And they're acting like Tim Cast getting a press pass so that a lot can literally just say, Mr. Secretary, care to comment on the recent accusations made by the press so we can suss out some of their thoughts and views on things.
They're acting like this is the apocalypse.
Take a look at what the Washington Post writes.
Nearly one week since a rash of Pentagon journalists turned in their press credentials after refusing to sign a new restrictive press policy, the Defense Department, Defense Department, you mean Department of War, announced a new.
Okay, hold on a minute.
It's the Department of War.
They changed the name.
You could be mad about it, but they did.
They announced a new media press corps largely hailing from right-wing outlets.
The 60 people from various news organizations present, represent a broad spectrum of new media outlets and independent journalists.
Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell wrote in a statement Wednesday on X, adding that all of the publications agreed to the agency's press policy.
According to a draft of the announcement obtained by the Washington Post ahead of Parnell's tweet, the coalition of signatories include the cable news network Real America's Voice, streaming service Lindell TV, the websites The Gateway Pundit, the Post Millennial, Human Events, the National Pulse, Red State.
It includes Turning Point USA's media brand frontlines, as well as influencer Tim Poole's Timcast and a substack-based newsletter called Washington Reporter.
The memo said that many independent journalists also signed, but did not specify who they were.
The Defense Department's policy blocks journalists from soliciting information.
The department is not authorized for release, even unclassified details, a major shift in press outreach from the organization.
This is a gross exaggeration and manipulation over what is actually going on.
Now, I will tell you: our statement: you know, there's a bunch of journalists insulting me and ragging on us, and they're crying.
And that shows you one thing: they were never journalists, they are partisan cultists.
They are angry that we will not march in lockstep with their cult.
This is very simple.
We have never been to the Pentagon.
I think actually a couple producers.
Did you go tape?
It was who went?
Kellen and Sean?
They went recently after an invite over how we could potentially interview people in the Department of War if we were to do a podcast.
That was about it.
Then all of this happened.
That is the extent we've ever been there.
Elod has a White House press credential so that he can go in the press briefing room and the Oval Office when able and ask questions.
We are not investigative journalists.
To a certain degree, maybe sometimes Elod's going to dig into a story he might find some details on, but we don't dedicate our time to trying to uncover malfeasance and untoward behavior from corporations or government as investigators.
I applaud all those who do.
That work is tremendous.
It's important.
Fantastic.
For what reason is it an affront to anyone that our organization said we would like to attend some press briefings to ask some questions, just like any other journalist who does.
They're acting like the fact that we are there is some, they're insulting us over it.
It's inane.
And they're acting like something's wrong with journalism in the country because we requested a press pass.
Isolate every news organization that they offered this to.
First and foremost, the Pentagon offered everyone, every organization was afforded the exact same opportunity with their memorandum.
These are just the organizations that looked it over and said, okay, I guess.
And you'll notice, one thing you'll notice, it's not so much that they're conservative leaning, independent or otherwise.
It's that these are organizations that typically did not get access to these institutions.
Now, certainly, I think there are many people who are just going to pony up to Trump no matter what he does.
And he's always right.
No, he's going to do right.
He can never do wrong.
I'm not going to play that game.
I certainly have no problem criticizing Trump over the Epstein handling, nor Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, despite them being friends of the show.
Criticism where criticism is due.
I've levied some criticism at a lot of organizations on the right.
This memo, we have pulled it up because the New York Times made it available.
There's quite literally nothing, in my opinion, in here that is, I got to be honest, a lot of it is just parking.
I'm not kidding.
Press parking.
Parking at the Pentagon Reservation is restricted to vehicles, permitted.
And I'm reading through this and I'm like, oh, I just really don't care.
I'm not going to park there.
We'll get dropped off.
We'll drop our equipment off.
Whatever.
Filming and photography and audio recording of the Pentagon is prohibited unless approved in advance.
This is true for, I think, every military installation.
Here's the issue.
These journalists that were in the Pentagon, they were not journalists.
They were mocking bird media.
The reason why they didn't have any kind of, like, they could do whatever they wanted was because there was no distinction between them and the administrations they worked under.
It was all a handshake agreement, and we all know.
They lie to the people.
They're lying about this.
Basically, what they're saying right now is: this agreement forces you to say that you won't solicit information unless they approve of it.
It says you won't solicit confidential, classified, or otherwise information and release it.
Okay, let me just stress to everybody who's listening: you can turn in your press badge.
That's it.
So let's say you're at the Pentagon.
You've got what's called the PFAC, the press pass that you applied for, and you stumble upon a story for which you're like, whoa, hold on.
I can't believe what I'm hearing.
The American people need to know this.
And so here's a guy.
You're like, tell me what's going on with this.
Now, there are some questions.
If you facilitate in any way the leaking of classified information, it's actually a crime.
Journalists can receive the information, but there's questions over where the line is when they start to solicit that information.
It actually becomes criminal.
So, in the event you find a story that is of massive, tremendous public knowledge, you already know about the story.
You can ask for confirmation and details.
That is not a crime.
If the Pentagon has a problem with that, you can say, Mr. Hagseth, here's your press badge back.
Adios.
The issue at play here is they want to have their cake and eat it too.
So, I have a question.
I mean, if there's an investigative journalist with no access to the Pentagon who works for Tate News Corp and is investigating the Pentagon, and then he goes to Allah from Timcast and says, Take a look at this story that I've uncovered.
What's stopping Allad from going, Mr. Secretary, we have a story that we got from Tate News Corp saying these things.
They're fabricating a reason to storm out of the press out of the Pentagon.
And I think the real issue here, and I apologize for the long rant, but I think the real issue here is the media was mockingbird.
The Biden administration, the Obama administration, the media was the government.
It was all part of the same manipulation.
That's why they had free reign to do whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted.
And now that Trump is in and they hate him and he represents a new system emerging and taking over, now the media says, quick, clear out, because it's a cult.
The new organizations that come in, what are you doing at the Pentagon?
Is it commonplace that journalists just constantly walk around the Pentagon saying, leak me information?
No, it's about going to press briefings, having interviews, and getting quick access to people in government.
You can ask them about stories that are in the public sphere.
So I don't know if you all agree, but that's my statement.
brett dasovic
I mean, it seems like a very easy manipulation for people who don't understand the way that this aspect of government and media works.
That it's a very easy story to frame for people that paints the new media, as they call it, in a specific light while taking advantage of a lay person's understanding of how press briefings work or how media structure works.
It really, like if you're from an outsider looking in, it just looks like they don't like the idea of people that are outside of the club getting into the club.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, that's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
And beyond that, I mean, the legacy media has an axe to grind with new media.
So right off the rip, one side has a bone to pick with the other.
So you're obviously going to get some ridiculous reporting.
And yeah, I mean, even from the Pentagon's perspective, I mean, like in the lead up to the story about the Pentagon, the Pentagon media walkout, like every article they were running was just these leaked characterizations from unnamed Pentagon officials.
There was no documents.
There was no nothing.
So it's like the Pentagon had holes to plug, obviously, because the media was just adversarial the entire time.
So it's like they're throwing a fit and they were adversarial the entire time.
It's like, get lost.
Like this is part of the reorientation towards new media because that's just the more useful that provides more utility for Americans, quite frankly.
elad eliahu
And in my perspective, it's a privilege, not a right, to be able to cover the White House, to be able to get into the Pentagon, to be able to ask questions at these briefings.
As I understand, these journalists are used to trying to solicit information from Pentagon officials throughout the Pentagon, and they used to have the right to walk around the Pentagon building without an escort.
I believe that's part of the rule change now, where they will be required to walk around with an escort and won't be able to freely solicit, try to solicit information from different Pentagon officials just throughout the building.
It's fascinating too, because the White House has these same rules.
I can't la-di-da walk around any part of the White House.
They have a specific area that the press is allowed into, a relatively small area.
And then if you're ever trying to go anywhere extended beyond that, you have to be with somebody with your press pass present.
If you're somewhere where you're not supposed to be, people will aggressively come up to you.
Like random White House people will be like, you need to be escorted here or you're not allowed to be in this area.
I think this is largely in an effort, though, from Pete Hexeth to prevent leaks and, you know, these unfavorable reporting that we are seeing on the Pentagon through disgruntled employees at the Pentagon.
There are a lot of people there who aren't happy with how Pete Hexeth has been running the show over there.
And they want to, you know, they have an axe to grind and they'll grind that axe through the media.
And Hexeth is trying to prevent that from occurring.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, I mean, it just shows that they're politicized within.
It shows that there's a contingent.
The same thing happened at the DOJ when there was the purge, the purge plan of the DOJ.
And then all the media did was just establish that there is an insurgent group within the DOJ that is not following orders.
They're not respecting the American people when we voted, voted in Donald Trump.
tim pool
I mean, my reaction to all this is I'm sitting here being like, we used to have a small news team, but it was largely aggregation.
There were a few stories that we broke when we had sources, but it was largely aggregation for the purpose of collecting stories that we thought were important and putting them in a written format because I do videos.
So I'm doing very surface-level journalism every single day.
When I put together like the noon show, I'm collecting a bunch of sources, fact-checking, pulling in data points, and the old school media hates it for a variety of reasons.
We've displaced them.
We've taken away their position as this, like they viewed themselves as a special elevated class of people above you.
They had access to the ivory tower for which they could espouse their views.
We destabilized that and they got really mad at us.
Now seeing all of this and the reaction, I'm like, oh, maybe we should hire a bunch of journalists and do a legit, like an actual newsroom.
I mean, it's really a simple question.
What is the purpose of being in the Pentagon?
Do you need to be in the Pentagon to do an investigative report?
The answer is no.
No, unless you're sneaking around, I guess.
elad eliahu
And if you have sources, they can leak to you.
You don't physically need to be in the building.
tim pool
Exactly.
elad eliahu
I guess you don't have that moment of spontaneity where you're passing somebody in the hallway with a wink and a nod, and then you can meet them and you're like, hey, you know, do you have any access to grind?
Are you pissed at your, you know, any of your subordinates?
Did your boss piss you off?
Do you want to leak something stupid about them?
And then, you know, ultimately it looks bad on the way up.
I think there is a serious national security risk here with having all these reporters looking for scoops running around in the Pentagon.
And I think they compromised national security with a lot of these leaks.
Obviously, beyond the reporting, but when you do have some disgruntled soldiers, I forgot the name of the specific guy, but a couple of years ago, there were massive leaks, and that was a national security issue.
It wasn't the WikiLeaks guy, but the Discord leaks, there's serious consequences.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
elad eliahu
There are serious consequences to this stuff.
And we need to tighten things over at the Pentagon.
We can't have, you know, pissed off employees leaking or pissed off employees accidentally leaking on Discord, I guess.
tate brown
Yeah, well, because it's like, okay, the Pentagon is aware that there is a portion of their staffing that is disgruntled.
So if the media is coming in with the sole intent of like just finding these people, identifying who these people are, and then publicizing their messaging, like they totally have the right to clamp down on this.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tate brown
What are we doing?
brett dasovic
The media really does have an axe to grind in a way.
Like you said, like there is an aspect now where the people who pivoted and learned to pivot to something like YouTube or Rumble, whatever it is, putting themselves in front of the camera, especially the written journalist class, hated that because the ability to write well doesn't always necessarily equate to being able to speak well on camera and being able to present media in an engaging way.
This is something that's going on a lot of ways in Hollywood as well, which is like they're trying to continue this old guard of how media is done while YouTube and these other platforms are starting to eclipse them.
tim pool
Let me explain to you guys what this is really about.
I have before you user mag, Taylor Lorenz's Substack.
So she worked for what, like The Atlantic, The Washington Post.
How many likes do you think she gets on an article on her new Independent?
Well, it's a little low.
I was displaying the likes a moment ago.
Maybe if I zoom in.
Oh, there it is.
There it is.
Oh, the likes are there.
Yeah.
369.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Ooh, 975.
642 likes.
That's great.
20 comments.
She's getting nothing.
I mean, this is nothing.
You're not living off of this.
The issue is that people like Taylor Lorenz, who don't have the skill, the merit, nay, the nobility to even work for any kind of, to run any kind of media business or be in, they need to be propped up by the machine.
brett dasovic
Well, look at somebody like a House in Habit, who went from working as like a, basically just being a mommy blogger to being like a very, very prolific voice in aspects of politics and culture, runs a substack that does very, very incredible numbers.
Somebody who has the ability, even if we're not talking putting yourself in front of the camera, but somebody who writes well, is engaging, knows how to put together a package of information that really, really speaks to people will succeed on their own.
Substack is the way that people are doing that on a written platform.
But the people who are resistant to change in media are going to have an axe to an axe to grind with everybody's.
tate brown
No, go ahead.
elad eliahu
Back on this Hexeth stuff for a moment.
I think Hexeth is trying to change up a lot of the culture at the Pentagon, and it's pissing a lot of people off.
It's pissing off the fat generals, the generals who believe in DEI, the generals that believe that there should be lower standards for, I don't know, minorities or women inside the service.
And that's pissing off a lot of generals who end up leaking to people at like the Washington Times.
And I'm taking a look at this article right now, and it says, Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth has lost the trust and respect of some top military commanders with his public grandstanding from the speech that he gave a week or so ago, widely seen as unprofessional and the personnel moves made by the former cable TV host leading an unprecedented and dangerous exodent of talent from the Pentagon said current senior military officers and current and former Defense Department officials.
This is what I think Hexeth is trying to prevent.
More articles like these coming out.
Disgruntled generals over at the Pentagon, pissed off with the needed changes that he's making to try to reinvigorate our army, to try to deal with the threats that we are seeing abroad.
This is why I think he's trying to make these changes, to prevent more of the bad optics from these generals.
tim pool
I think the issue for a lot of these corporate news outlets is that they're access journalists, if you guys aren't familiar.
Totally, yes.
This means that they're newsrooms that only exist because they've been given a credential.
Whereas we here often say things that piss people off, even if they're our friends, because we think truth and transparency matters and honor integrity too.
Some of these newsrooms don't have any merit, don't have any credibility.
What they have is they're friends with someone in an administration.
brett dasovic
They have access.
tim pool
Exactly.
Not that they're not friends with the Trump administration.
They have nothing.
They barely have access.
Then they say, we're going to restrict your access.
And they're like, uh-oh.
What are we going to write?
brett dasovic
I mean, this is happening in entertainment too.
Like, people, variety will go to these red carpet premieres, and people who cover it get 10 times the views that they do because they're providing some type of interesting commentary as opposed to just going and asking inane questions to celebrities.
tate brown
Well, I mean, it's beyond.
This is happening with every institution in the United States.
Like with legacy media, all they're doing is they're just benefiting from the hard work that people, like a generation or two, did to establish those connections, to build the New York Times, to build the Washington Post.
And they're just running off of those fumes.
And this is happening with every institution in the United States because, broadly speaking, now with the internet, now we're in the digital age, it's democratized information.
People, we are able to reorient sort of our intake of content regardless of what the medium is.
I mean, we have a great example sitting right here.
And so, yeah, like that's all they benefit from is the hard work from people that came before them.
But now that that, now that their usefulness is sort of running thin, you know, we're going to tune into Tim Cast because it's just going to be better.
And like you're talking about Taylor Lorenz, it's like the thing that separates House and Habit from Taylor Lorenz is House and Habit actually has like an interesting perspective.
They have an interesting take versus Taylor Lorenz is just like a crappier version of what you would have on the New York Times.
So it's like, why would I even bother?
elad eliahu
So, well, Nate, what do you think?
Am I compromising my journalistic integrity?
Am I suddenly a show for the Department of War?
@natefriedman97
No, no, not at all.
elad eliahu
It's okay if you think I am.
@natefriedman97
I don't think so.
I mean, oh, sorry.
No, I don't think so.
I think that, you know, one thing about like legacy media that I've noticed, you know, in the press room, I'm obviously not in the White House press room, but there's just this sense of disrespect that's kind of odd to me.
Like, you should respect the office regardless of who's there.
Like, there was one particular moment where Caroline Levitt kind of dunks on Caitlin Collins when she's just like, you should just be on the ground.
Why are you not on the ground?
It's much easier to lie about what's happening when you're not on the ground.
So when I'm out there, you can't accuse me of lying.
I'm it's not AI.
I'm on the street talking to these people.
So that's that's a big thing that I would point out.
elad eliahu
There is a sense of intention.
tim pool
There's no Nate.
He's just AI.
There's a guy in a green screen sitting, a green screen suit sitting there.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
So I have a friend actually who's talking about wanting to create like a secondary channel because he wants, he goes to a lot of these events and he's like, I want to start documenting this stuff.
I think it's important.
But he has like, he does other work and he doesn't want to necessarily put people off his other content because it's not political, whatever.
And I said, look, like, there's a million people in the commentary space now.
It's very, very hard to get started here.
But just the act of going on the ground and getting information, boots on the ground, asking questions is invaluable.
And like more people should be doing it.
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I agree.
Let's jump to this story.
From the post-millennial, FBI Director Cash Patel says Bureau is on the verge of unmasking the funding and command structure behind the Antifa terror group.
Patel said there are indications that support for anti-American radical groups is coming from America's enemies overseas, that the Bureau is following the money.
We have this President Trump's roundtable, I guess they say.
Patel said, furthermore, Patel indicated the funding is also coming from U.S. nonprofits with IRS tax exempt status.
Look, the thing I can tell you is that the money doesn't lie.
And the thing we're doing at the FBI is following the money.
And thanks to President Trump, we now have Antifa designated, rightfully so, as a domestic terror organization.
And we have had multiple investigations going on.
The one thing I want to stress, we are looking at a decentralized network of various organizations.
We are looking at cells that use the actual brand Antifa as a proper noun.
But I would say Antifa largely describes the semi-centralized, and it is, it's not totally decentralized, network of leftists that train, recruit, finance, or otherwise all of the leftist movements we see in this country.
Now, Nate, you've uncovered a lot of these people.
What's going on?
Who are these people?
@natefriedman97
Yeah, I want to point out one thing first, which is that the reason why this is so difficult to trace, and bravo to this administration for doing it for real, this is such a big deal, is that these groups are not even nonprofits a lot of the time.
They're under an umbrella of several other nonprofits, right?
So you take someone at the top, like a Soros, who gives money to Tides, who then gives money to Progress Unity Fund, who then gives money to Answer Coalition.
And it's done.
I mean, if you're proud of what you're giving your money to and you're not hiding it, you don't go through all that trouble, right?
So you have to follow it all the way through several different nonprofits.
It's a big thing.
tim pool
And the individuals often will work for multiple nonprofits, not just one.
You'll find some friends of mine and I were looking at various nonprofits that bring in funding through.
I mean, we used to do fundraising for nonprofits.
And we'd find that three board members were three executive level staff members.
There were like 12 people, and they'd each be on the board of a different company and executive staff at a different company to fulfill their legal requirements.
So they could have a bunch of different nonprofits and they could shuffle money between each other, making it very difficult to track.
@natefriedman97
Correct.
And I, you know, so someone who I exposed, so David Chung, who the leader of the, you know, the People's Forum protests that they organize like twice a week.
Okay, so he's on the IRS tax forms for the People's Forum, getting paid $75,000 a year to protest.
I confronted him.
He said, no comment, no comment, no comment.
This guy's taken pictures with Talib.
Like this guy has connections to Congress, right?
He's also on the board of Rise and Resist, another protest group.
He's also with the Singham Justice Fund.
So just like Tim is saying, yes, it's very true.
These people are protesting from multiple orgs.
tim pool
When I was at Occupy Wall Street, this is a story that I mentioned before.
And as highlighting your work, Nate, on covering, you walk up to these people and you're like, here's a paid protester.
And then you're like, show a picture and explain how they're getting paid.
So I was, we were talking about this.
I told this story.
When I was at Occupy Wall Street, Fox News is saying, oh, they're all paid protesters, things like this.
And the belief among normies that were showing up as tourists to Occupy, not actively being there, was that Fox was lying.
None of these people were being paid.
That's ridiculous.
They were collecting donations.
The truth was, there were a handful of trust fund kids who were there because they were bored, but nonprofit organizations in New York had staffers there during work hours because they got the day off.
So there were a handful of people that I met from various charities, nonprofits, and also political organizations that were progressive and leftist.
And I'm talking to them and they say, oh, yeah, I work for an insert organization.
I'd be like, oh, wow.
Are they paying you to beer?
No, no, no, no, no.
And I'm like, oh, are you off?
Well, they gave me today off to come down.
This is what happens.
You work for a nonprofit whose mission is communism, socialism or otherwise.
What does that mean?
It means you're handing out postcards.
It means you're fundraising.
It means you're organizing at universities.
Occupy Wall Street happens and they say, Why don't you take the day off and go hang out at Occupy?
What happens?
They go to Occupy.
They facilitate, organize, exacerbate, recruit, finance, et cetera.
And they are paid a salary, but today is their day off.
That's the game they're playing a lot of times.
tate brown
Yeah, well, you go to their websites, like a lot of these like freedom funds and that sort of thing.
And it's like George Costanis, George Costanza's Human Fund.
Like it's like Chat GPT nonsense, and it's just like vague descriptions, like we were seeking justice and reconciliation.
And it's like, what is going on here?
How do they employ 50, 60 people?
brett dasovic
I think it's important to expose the idea of somebody being paid to do that at all because I think the average normie who doesn't follow politics closely maybe only pays a little bit of attention when election season comes around or this stuff is going on right now.
The idea that somebody would be paid to go out and do something like that would be completely foreign to them.
When they see these people in a large group, they're imagining hundreds of people who all independently of their own volition came to the idea that I need to go out and stand up against tyranny or whatever they're talking about.
No kings.
And the idea that people would be paid money to do it is just shocking to a lot of people.
@natefriedman97
Right.
I mean, the point that Tim brought up about how they take the day off, so case in point was the Trump Trump Tower occupation, one of them, right?
So you get in the middle of the day on a Tuesday, 30 people.
So I interviewed this woman, and it turns out she works for a nonprofit, Jewish Currents.
It's a super far-left magazine.
And she's just there in the middle of the workday.
On her LinkedIn, everything says that she works there.
So again, she's given the day off to go and occupy the king's home.
You know, you come to think that these people, I asked them, do you think Trump is a dictator?
And they don't have an answer for me anymore because they know if Trump was a dictator, that would be the last building they would walk into.
tim pool
We allowed it to.
@natefriedman97
He just invaded his family's home, you know, and they're escorted out so nicely.
You know what I mean?
They're carried out.
tim pool
So this is another thing.
Man, I actually knew a lot of these guys at Occupy who I assume are like feds or fed isn't the right word.
You know, this is the mistake people made because this is like an international coalition of well-funded, they are individuals, they're activists, they're revolutionaries, they are at the higher level.
It's almost like they're intelligence guys, but they're not working for any, it's like a rogue, like rogue nation almost.
They work with Soros, they know Soros' family.
But the problem is the way they shuffle this money around, I think looking at Soros singularly is not necessarily a mistake, but it misses the bigger picture.
A lot of this money, I believe, a lot of this money, I believe, excuse me, coming from USAID, shuffled around.
A lot of it was coming from what we saw with Lee Zeldin uncovering these green slush funds, where the Biden administration pulls out like $7 billion or some insane number into a nonprofit that existed for a month.
That was insane.
And Trump comes.
@natefriedman97
You're talking about the CCAs thing.
That was like the $2 billion slush fund.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Well, the one that whatever it was, Lee Zeldin uncovered a couple working in environmental issues for the federal government under Trump.
And he said the Biden admin was dumping money into these charities that just started.
Then what happens?
Let me tell you guys a secret.
And I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but did you know that every nonprofit has two nonprofits?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
501c3 and 501c4.
Are you familiar with those terms?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So the way it works is a 501c3 is a tax-exempt charitable organization.
Their financing has to be filed publicly through what's called the 990 or 990N.
You can look those up for every charity.
However, most organizations will simultaneously launch what's called a 501c4 or comparably known as a PAC.
It's not always PACs.
These are not tax-exempt donations, but they don't need to be publicly disclosed.
So here's what happens: you will see someone fundraising for famous progressive charitable cause, and they'll be talking to you at an event, at your door, on the street, on the phone, whatever it may be.
And they'll say, guys, let's just, well, I'll use a modern example.
Donald Trump is trying to be a dictator.
We have only a few years to stop him.
Here's the problem.
Our organization only brought in, guess how much?
$2 million last year.
Can you believe it?
Everybody knows Trump's a dictator, and we could only get $2 million.
Now, you're probably saying, 10, that's a lot of money.
But I assure you, with our staff of 100 people working around the clock to stop Trump, you break that down.
We are working at poverty wages to stop the fascist takeover.
That's why we need you right now.
I need 50 bucks a month.
Can you commit?
It's just 50 bucks a month.
Cut out one Starbucks coffee a day and you're making this possible.
What do you say?
Handshake.
You know what they don't tell you?
The actual charity will bring money in and send it to the 501c4.
Or when you then fill out that form, wherever you may be, you're donating to a 501c4 that doesn't need to disclose the total amount of donations they bring in.
So they're technically telling you the truth.
You'll donate to Brett Dasevik, the fund incorporated.
It'll say on the form, your donation goes to the Brett Dasovic Fund, who brought in $700 million last year.
brett dasovic
Let's go.
tim pool
The Brett Dasevik Fund then donates $2 million to the Brett Dasevik Environmental Causes nonprofit.
brett dasovic
Perfect.
tim pool
That way I can then go and say, Brett Dasovic's environmental nonprofit only brought in $2 million last year.
Will you give us money?
What they don't disclose, because they don't have to, because they're technically telling the truth.
All that money is being shuffled to a 501c4 that won't disclose where the money goes.
And then they give a tiny little bit.
You'll see it's amazing.
There will be like the executive director of a well-known, famous progressive nonprofit.
Watch for this.
They'll say, I only make $80,000 a year.
And I know for a lot of people in this country, that's high.
And that's sad, isn't it?
I am a CEO level, an executive at a large organization, and I don't get the millions of dollars these guys do at this job.
What they don't tell you is they also have another job as the executive director of Fund Incorporated, where they get paid $7 million a year.
brett dasovic
I mean, a lot of those executives, or a lot of the CEOs end up making that amount too.
unidentified
They just get the rest in stock options.
tim pool
It's all one big shell game.
What I described it as back in the day is selling hopes and dreams to people.
brett dasovic
Okay, so then the question is: the way he's selling it here is that they're going to nail down the funding.
And I think the idea there is that people have an idea of like, there's a person at the end of that tunnel.
There's a George Soros at the end of that tunnel.
And I think what people have a hard time with, maybe it's just because of the way people have been raised right now, because they've watched more movies and television rather than read about notes on how nonprofits work, is they're imagining that there's an end of the tunnel where there's a document that leads to a specific person who's been funding all this, and they're not going to be comfortable with the idea that it's not that simple.
tim pool
Yeah, it's probably going to end up being a couple thousand individuals.
It's going to be Democrat politicians.
It's as simple as USAID or these flush funds.
They create a fund.
They then say, we're going to give, I mean, it's fascinating because some of these organizations that initially get the funds could be innocuous.
It could be like the repairing TVs in low-income neighborhoods nonprofit that gets $30 million or whatever.
And it's like, we want to ensure that there's digital infrastructure for people in rural areas.
And then you take a look at their books.
They make charitable contributions to various foundations.
And after three or four different degrees of separation, you find it all goes towards an organization that's on the ground protesting.
tate brown
Well, that's why it's so useful that the FBI is actually doing this because, yeah, for a lot of people, there's a lot of names to keep up with a lot of organizations.
Everything's constantly unraveling.
New ones, it's like a game of whack-a-mole.
It's going to be nice to get a few names out there that can allow you to kind of put the pieces together to fill in some gaps because, yeah, right now it's just very frustrating.
I mean, that's the intention, obviously, but it's very frustrating because from the outsider perspective, I mean, it's really tough to sit on top of everything.
tim pool
I want to ask you, Nate, because aside from going on the ground and doing field reporting, you've confronted paid protesters.
Have you faced threats to your safety from challenging them in person?
@natefriedman97
In person, all I've had is a water bottle thrown at me.
I'm lucky.
Oh, wow.
My DMs aren't as nice, but yeah.
tim pool
But what do you find when you confront these people?
Like, how does it go down?
Do they panic?
@natefriedman97
Yeah, they panic.
I mean, the No Kings one was hilarious.
I walked up to the four vests, you know, the Amazon vests that they wear.
tim pool
Yeah.
@natefriedman97
And I walk up and, you know, I'm just like asking them, what's the plan for the protest?
You know, like, oh, our job is to do this.
We're marshaling here.
And I'm like, are you working with the NYPD?
Like, what do you mean that you're like running traffic?
You're like, what are you talking about?
unidentified
Right.
@natefriedman97
And she's like, oh, we didn't have a briefing with them.
I'm like, do they know about you?
And she's like, yeah, they're not blind.
And I'm like, okay, well, that's odd.
Right.
So what happens is I show the credentials and then the woman goes, I think this is one of the right-wing troll guys.
And then they go like, oh, and they're like, they don't know how to handle it.
And they just talk over each other.
tim pool
Have you ever, have you ever called out one of their names to them without them knowing who you were?
Like, you're John Smith.
@natefriedman97
Well, with David, I did.
Like, I was like, hey, David, how are you doing?
He was like, hey, Nate, how you doing?
tim pool
Oh, he knew you were.
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Do you think these people are starting to track you because they know you're putting out videos that are getting hundreds of thousands or millions of views?
@natefriedman97
I mean, like, when I go to a protest, almost instantly, I do have people following me asking, you know, telling the protesters not to speak with me.
But it has a reverse effect because a lot of the protesters are like, what's the problem with this kid?
unidentified
Yeah.
You know, like, what are you?
@natefriedman97
Like, I'm just, you know.
So then they speak with me and it looks so bad on their part because it's like, this person has agreed to do an interview with me.
You know, just someone who's like, he's brainwashed, but he's not paid.
He's just there to protest.
He's like, look, I want to talk.
I want to speak into a microphone.
I'm going to protest.
And they're like, no, don't speak to him.
tim pool
So yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, well, it's like I've been on the ground with a lot, like in New York, and a lot of people will spot him.
And of course, they think he's, you know, every name in the book.
But the way that they retaliate is just like the caddiest, like low-test reactions.
No, no, don't talk to him.
Don't talk to him.
But it's like in a weird, like, there's a level of cordialness and a level of familiarity.
And it's like, just so like soy.
tim pool
Remember when you got attacked at a bar?
elad eliahu
Yeah, I did.
Well, for being a fascist Zionist, I got kicked out of a bar.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
A Jewish Nazi.
elad eliahu
A couple of people have tried to attack me through like my years on the street there, like a couple of fist fights.
Nothing too crazy, though.
I think I'm on the luckier side of all of that.
It's not too crazy out in New York City, though.
It's definitely, it hasn't reached like the levels of Portland or anything like that.
unidentified
Definitely not.
@natefriedman97
No, I think the NYPD does a very good job, honestly.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I also think it is worth mentioning, while there are some paid protesters, I don't believe most are paid.
@natefriedman97
Correct.
elad eliahu
Like most people are there on their own.
tim pool
5%.
elad eliahu
And they're excited to be there.
A lot of the anti-Israel protesters out there, all these Arabs and Muslims out there, I don't think they're getting paid to be there.
I think they think they're fighting for their motherland.
Then there are these other group of people who are being paid, though.
And these are these pieces of shit legal observers who are who say they're only there to make sure police are doing their job, but they're really there to just assist the far left protesters in whatever protest they're trying to proceed in.
Then this other group of people who might be the worst out of any of these are the sympathetic photographers, the protesters and everything but name photographers looking to like aggrandize these people and like take sexy pictures of them for their Instagram pages.
And then they could all post their pictures and try to make it look like they're doing something relevant on the street so they could try to be put in some newspaper article and like front page of the New York Times.
And it's a collection of them and they'll all work together.
And then there'll be like Fed stories from the protesters.
So they'll work hand in fist with them.
They're making money.
The legal observers are making money.
But I just sort of wanted to break down what's going on on the streets over there.
The legal observers, I think I have the biggest beef with because they are so nakedly and openly partisan.
They won't go to any right-wing rallies and try to protect right-wingers and just say, oh, we're just observing what's going on and trying to protect their First Amendment rights.
It's only at far left events where they feel like it is necessary for them to show up and micromanage the police's every move.
tate brown
Yeah, and it's so the way they behave is so catty.
elad eliahu
They're just bitching and moaning.
They're just bitching and moaning.
tim pool
This is what you know, I think should have people concerned.
Occupy Wall Street, for instance.
Moe, who's who's going to be in a camp at Occupy Wall Street?
Do you think it's going to be any legitimate journalist who's like, I want to get to the bottom of what's going on?
Nate, why aren't you camping with these far leftists and following around?
And it's because it's only a certain kind of person that would literally do that.
When I went to Occupy, it was largely just an interesting thing for me to see.
I also have no problem with sleeping in the streets.
So when Occupy started, I was like, sure, whatever.
What I end up finding is that were I not there, the narrative, the history of that space will always have been a lie because the leftists control the narrative.
There were a handful of rapes in the park.
Well, of course they were.
What do you think happens when you have a bunch of people just sleeping in the street?
They're in a park by themselves in dense camps where there's clusters of people banging drums all night.
No one can hear anything.
Loud traffic.
Several rapes happened.
You know what the response was from the Occupy facilitators?
Don't tell anyone because it'll make us look bad.
Yep.
There was a division between the east and the west sides of Zuccotti Park during Occupy.
The east side of the park was controlled by trust fund kids who were trying to manipulate and control things.
But the people who actually comprised the occupying body, they formed what's called the general union on the west side of the camp.
No joke.
The east side of the camp was no, there weren't really that many tents.
It wasn't as dense.
And that's where they had the general assembly.
Trust fund kids, facilitators, and paid protesters were organizing.
They had what's called the progressive stack, meaning if you were a white man, you didn't get to speak.
No joke.
The speech order for everybody who raised their hand was based on how oppressed you were, not a joke.
So if you were a paraplegic, a lesbian of color with a developmental disability, you would speak first.
If you were a white man, they would look at you and go, anyone besides a white man want to speak?
Okay, well, then moving on.
The other side of the park tried holding their own rally because they were concerned that they were the actual Occupy and being shut out.
And facilitators came and threatened violence against them.
That's how insane Occupy Wall Street was.
What was actually going on in that park was disarray, disorganization, and chaos.
I guarantee you, if you find one of these occupiers who wrote a book about it, it's going to be a romanticized fantasy utopia of what happened.
They use narratives like that to try and convince people communism will work.
Then you actually go and experience what it was.
Let me tell you, there was a, I walked into the park one day and they had the food section.
They were giving out food to people who were hungry.
Tourists who were walking through the park to check out Occupy were taking some of this food.
Guess where the food came from?
elad eliahu
Dumpster?
tim pool
Dumpster.
That is correct.
Leftists went dumpster diving, grabbed a bunch of expired trashed food, brought it in crates to Occupy, started handing out to people.
And I walked up and I saw one of the labels on it.
And then I was like, where did you guys get all this food?
And they were like dumpster diving.
And I said, what do you think the press is going to say when they find out you're handing dumpster food to tourists?
And they like got shocked and then shoveled it all into the garbage and tried getting rid of it.
tate brown
They're homeless maxing.
It's the new, it's the new method, I hear.
elad eliahu
But I remember what the left does.
During the George Floyd riots, there was this one van that would show up to all of the events to like hand out snacks and goodies and make sure everybody at the protests and like was like hydrated and everything.
Just strange things that people decide to commit.
And I don't think like even those people were paid.
tim pool
I think those who makes the ships.
elad eliahu
Good question.
Who makes the shields?
unidentified
Yep.
@natefriedman97
I mean, you brought up the legal thing.
It's something that I really.
elad eliahu
Legal observers?
@natefriedman97
Yeah, but also like something I really want people to know about is that how often there are arrests at these protests.
Arrests in New York City are expensive, right?
Like a lot of time, these police are on overtime.
And so, who pays to bail these people out?
Okay, look into, or you can watch one of my videos on it, but you can, if you go to scroll down in the bottom of Palestine Legal, you will see at the bottom, Tide Center.
So, George Soros gives money to the Tide Center.
And this organization is just made to bail protesters out.
Anti-West protests is made for that.
So, it's expensive to have thousands of arrests at these protests, taxpayer money.
elad eliahu
I will say nowadays it's a cashless bail.
So, a lot of these guys get out without anything.
If anything, it's just costing the city the overtime hours that the NYPD has to constantly put in for all these guys.
tate brown
Yeah, and then they got to pay for the Met tickets once they release them.
It's just crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm concerned with this investigation from the FBI, they're not actually going to go from the STEM for the root.
Because do you have any idea?
You do, what it would look like if cash actually said we are going to start arresting and shutting down these funding sources.
We're talking about what hundreds of nonprofits with millions of dollars in funding.
We're talking about an entire sector of our economy, like probably a decent percentage that is literally just professional revolutionaries, agitators, and their and their legal apparatus.
brett dasovic
You think violence is bad now?
I believe you think they're going to do it?
@natefriedman97
Yeah, I do.
tim pool
What do you think happened?
@natefriedman97
Because I trust the president because when he posted my work, like I couldn't, I could not believe it.
Like, that was like, that was how old are you?
I will just say that 28.
tim pool
Amazing.
@natefriedman97
That was, that was, I'll just say, that was probably the best day of my life.
Yeah, I promise.
Because it was like a month or two ago.
Yeah, it's like in June.
And, you know, he like captions it with my name.
And I was like, the president just like, what?
And he means business.
You know, you can be on the right or the left.
He tends to keep promises.
And he's been on Fox.
He's been, even when I was at Charlie Kirk's memorial service, Trump mentioned paid protesting.
tim pool
What do you think?
@natefriedman97
Things are on purpose with him.
I think he's going to do it.
tim pool
Based on what you know about this paid protesting stuff, what do you think it looks like when the DOJ finally announces the first indictments or the moves against these networks?
@natefriedman97
Well, you can look at oversight committee.
Like Ana Paulina Luna is doing a great job with this.
She's already, she knows about Singam.
They know they need to bring this guy who's a Marxist billionaire living in China, whose wife is Jody Evans, who's the code pink one, who's literally harassing congressmen whenever they're, you know, at the cafeteria.
They know the names already, which is a huge start.
And they've been public about knowing the names.
So I think it looks like wrapping up these giant umbrellas, right?
Because there's not that many.
Like you look at Westpac and Progress Unity Fund, those two are huge.
And then there's like 20 groups under them.
But look at those two.
And I think when you get like a news about the DOJ, it's going to be about Westpac and Progress Unity Fund.
tim pool
We have this image that rep Ana Paulina Luna posted.
And you can see all of these organizations, no kings, partners.
I believe this is yearly revenue.
Is it not?
Because I can't imagine that they're pulling millions of them per month.
I imagine this is the totals for the end of the year, right?
You've got ACLU with 42 million.
That seems like a yearly number.
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
tim pool
The ACLU.
You want to hear a funny story about the ACLU?
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man.
I think I could get in trouble for talking about this story.
I'll keep it really light.
I worked for, oh, man, I could probably get in trouble.
I'm going to say it anyway because here we are.
I already opened the door.
I worked for a corporation that did fundraising for the ACLU.
We believed there was a labor law violation.
So when we found out that the company that was working with the ACLU, okay, so we work for company A who contracts with the ACLU.
When we found out that we were getting ripped off, so we believed, we reached out to the ACLU asking if they could do something about it.
And they said, no, it's a conflict of interest and we don't want to get involved.
And we were like, this is supposed to be what you do.
But they were like, yeah, but no, because we make money from these people.
So we just said, okay.
And that was, that was the end of the ACLU for me for the most part.
Yep.
tate brown
Is there something to be said about like oftentimes I think like I think back to the LA riots earlier this year where there is a propensity on the right to disbelieve that this can just occur organically and we kind of want someone up up the ladder that we can chuck in jail, which I mean, I'm not like this is obviously really at the core of a lot of these things.
But like when I look at the LA riots, to me, there is enough tension in like, yeah, that community with ICE that these sort of riots would occur anyway, regardless of enough Mexicans in LA pissed about ICE deporting their family members.
elad eliahu
Right.
tate brown
There's enough abuelas and abuela.
elad eliahu
I don't think anybody needs to.
Soros doesn't need to pay out the Mexican to be mad about his abuela getting deported.
tate brown
Yeah, so I think like sometimes I think people on the right just really can't believe that this is happening.
This is the state of the country.
tim pool
What's Arabella?
elad eliahu
Are you from the Arabs?
@natefriedman97
Arabella.
tim pool
Yeah.
Arabella.
You know, there's Arabella, Buffett, Ford, Rockefeller, Soros, and the Tais Foundation.
@natefriedman97
So, like, my each of these are enough to spend a lifetime looking into, right?
So, Soros and Tithes.
It's funny how they split those up.
Those are virtually the same thing.
Soros is the principal donor of Translation.
elad eliahu
Really?
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
Soros donates, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars through tithes.
So it's like saying, putting them in different columns is it's needed because there's some people, different people who donate the tithes, but it's mostly Soros.
Rockefeller, Fordia, all these names.
It's like crazy.
I do this every single day of my life and I haven't gotten to those names.
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
elad eliahu
I'm looking up Arabella Advisors.
Their LLC advises left-leaning donors.
It was created by former Clinton administration appointee Eric Kessler.
They raise a ton of money and they dole it out to different Democrat interest groups.
tim pool
Now, this is important.
These are not, this funding is not for No Kings.
These are just people who worked with No Kings.
So you can see they've got the Human Rights Campaign.
Where's the old human rights?
Here you go.
Human Rights Campaign Foundation.
And you can see 2 million.
Now, I'm curious.
Why does it say human rights campaign foundation?
You're all familiar with the human rights campaign, right?
elad eliahu
Yes.
tim pool
Okay, so it lists it as the human rights campaign foundation.
I'm curious if there's a distinction.
unidentified
Is there a distinction between human rights campaign?
tim pool
I bet there is.
Yes, they are legally distinct.
Surprise, surprise.
The Human Rights Campaign Foundation is a 501c3, and the human rights campaign is a 501c4.
Hey, isn't that funny how I just described how nonprofits have this practice of splitting themselves up?
To be fair, every single nonprofit does it.
Even Project Veritas at Project Veritas Action.
But I don't trust them.
I trust James.
elad eliahu
I do think the left wing does a very good job of organizing their donations and their funds and raising funds from donors across the board for what issues they care about.
So if you read through these different organizations, it's catch-all leftist issues, but it's things like gun control, LGBTQ issues, race issues, abortion issues.
tim pool
Climate change.
elad eliahu
Right.
Climate change.
tim pool
It's all gay race communism.
elad eliahu
Exactly.
But they do an effective job of raising money individually for all of these different organizations.
What I wish would happen on the right is that we had as good of interest groups fundraising money like this to effectively battle them.
So there needs to be people who care about, I mean, there's every issue across the board, but gun rights, caring about immigration and closing our borders.
We need to raise funds to have PACs to donate to candidates who support those issues.
And they're very, very organized in how they do this stuff.
I mean, I guess we do Republicans raise a ton of money for anti-abortion stuff.
tate brown
I mean, I would just like to build a Venmo Ice.
That would be nice.
elad eliahu
Why do you think?
brett dasovic
Oh, God.
tim pool
No, no.
I'm a five story.
brett dasovic
I think it is that the right has such a hard time with that.
So I've always pointed out, like, in my lifetime, at any place that I've lived, I've only ever had door knockers come to my door that are campaigning for left-wing organizations or campaigns.
I've never had anybody on the show.
tim pool
Oh, what about missionaries?
No, that's not a joke.
brett dasovic
Yeah, never.
elad eliahu
I think.
tim pool
So let me just clarify this.
The legal function of a 501c3 is supposed to be a secular version of church.
Churches were tax exempt.
They had certain rules.
And 501c3 was basically like, okay, okay, if you're because of freedom of religion, we will create advocacy groups for other ideological causes that function similarly.
That's why they always say churches can't engage in politics from the pulpit or whatever.
So there needs to be more.
I guess the issue is this.
This is the point I'm making.
Christians of all different backgrounds, even I know there's some controversy, I guess, now over Mormons and other Christian groups.
They knock, I've had them come to my door quite a bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they talk about their moral worldview, but it's overtly a religion.
We had to recognize this.
When the left comes, it's not different.
They're espousing values of their non-theistic religion.
The issue is that what you're talking about, Brett, I think is, or I should say, a lot, where's the moderate, pro-America, meritocratic-based PACs and organizations trying to advance that?
elad eliahu
I mean, I guess we're turning point USA was doing the best job of that, but the left really effectively took Charlie Kirk off the board.
Brett, to answer your question, though, why I think this is more prevalent on the left and not the right, it's because at the core of, I feel like right-wingers' ideology is like an individualism.
And it's like the idea of coming together and trying to work with others to try to like accomplish something big and like get into like this big commune.
It sounds like communism.
And I think right-wingers think that's kind of gay, as opposed to people on the left where it's like, oh, you know, let's find somebody to like raise money for to try to achieve a goal together and let's all work together.
And I feel like that's a very left-wing type idea.
So naturally, it flows that they'd want to organize more than a right-winger would.
A right-winger would say, Hey, I think I could do this on my own and fight this on my own.
Like, I want to be my own boss.
Like, I don't want to have to be somebody else's employee.
On the left, they're like, Let's all hold hands and we're all equal.
And let's, here, I'll give you a ton of my money trying to go accomplish something.
brett dasovic
Or if they would try to start building some type of coalition, they start arguing about it and then wouldn't get around to the actual building.
tate brown
Well, beyond that, too, it's like the left for 30, 40 years now, or 56 years now, has provided like a vision for how they want the country to be reoriented, how it wants to be structured.
And so that gave leftists and just like people on left broadly something to buy into, something to organize around.
Where the right, it really wasn't until Trump that a vision was provided for America.
For 60 years, the Republican Party was like, let's just slow them down.
@natefriedman97
There's just like one quick thing about this that about like leftist NGOs.
A lot of them started for like with good intentions.
Okay.
So like one of them, one company I exposed, La Collaborativa, you know, they started to help immigrants.
Here's the problem.
On the left, we changed the definition of immigrant and we just refer to illegal immigrants as immigrants.
And it's awful because people like my father who came to the country, legally waited, you know, fled communism, contributed, is now being described as the same way as someone who hopped the border and is trafficking drugs.
tim pool
I can tell you the big problem with nonprofits, nonprofits are supposed to go out of business.
They are not businesses.
They identify a problem and then request your assistance to stop said problem.
So let's say the problem is plastic pollution, right?
You're a nonprofit and you got started because you're like, plastic is a problem.
brett dasovic
Your slogan is death to plastic.
tim pool
And your slogan is death to plastic.
And so you are soliciting donations to end plastic pollution.
The goal being at a certain point, there should no longer be plastic pollution.
Let's say, hypothetically, in this world, one day a new synthetic material is developed, which eliminates the needs for plastics.
As these things happen, like plastics came about replacing glass and metal containers.
So let's say one day they're like, revolution, plastic is now being phased out.
This nonprofit has 1,000 employees, 37 offices across the country.
They have to bring in $8 million a year just to sustain it.
Do you think they're going to go, guess I lost my job now?
Do you think the executive director who's getting paid a million bucks a year is going to be like, I'm going to fire a thousand employees?
No.
Guess what they're going to do?
They're going to find something else to complain about.
They're going to find some other reason.
Oh, I got an idea.
Let's talk about Greenpeace.
You guys know Greenpeace?
@natefriedman97
No.
tim pool
Really?
Greenpeace is like the leftist nonprofit.
They got started because there was a small handful of people who got a boat and opposed nuclear testing, nuclear bombs being detonated in the ocean.
And so they would bring their boats into the fray and sit there so the tests could not be done.
And they got a bunch of donations for it.
Now, you name an environmental cause, they're against it.
Just pick one.
You've got the issue of whaling, I guess.
They're against nuclear energy, even though nuclear energy is emission-free and the cleanest energy we have.
@natefriedman97
Even something like homelessness is literally not solved because the incentives are all off.
They're not incentivized to fix the problem.
So that's just, yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
Why solve any of these problems?
It's funny because it's the same thing as big pharma.
If they cure your disease, they're out of business.
brett dasovic
I think also now that I think about it, more than anything, like I said, all the door knockers that have ever come to my home have always been, they're always young adults.
They're very idealistic.
And that same sense of idealism doesn't necessarily exist on the right.
It's a form of pragmatism towards the future that they want an idealistic future, but they have too pragmatic of a worldview to really buy into that.
So it's easier to sell people on the idea of hope than it is to actually sell them a realistic plan.
elad eliahu
It's easier to sell people on free shit than sell people on individual responsibility.
tim pool
Gentlemen, many of you may have wondered why our number one is not here, Philabonte, and why Tate was filling in.
I am currently peeling some foil off of a bottle of Bubbly, which says, pop and cheer when baby Labanti is here.
As Philabonte has just super chatted, I'm at the hospital.
Sarah's water just broke and are about to welcome our first son to the world.
By the time you read this, he will likely already be here.
Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes.
Congratulations, Phil and Sarah.
unidentified
I am going to pop open this delicious bubbly.
tim pool
Just like in.
There we go.
Don't spill on me.
And we don't have any glasses, do we?
brett dasovic
No.
elad eliahu
We're taking swigs out the bottle.
tate brown
Let's chug this real quick.
We're waterfalling.
Let's go.
tim pool
Waterfalling.
elad eliahu
Phil, you guys.
Basel Tov on your baby, hopefully the first of many repopulating the country.
Let's go.
Congratulations to you.
Take as much time as you need off, buddy.
tim pool
Are you not waterfalling it?
Dude.
tate brown
Your nasty lips are there.
unidentified
Foul.
Yeah.
tim pool
Sorry, Foul.
tate brown
COVID-25 or something.
elad eliahu
If you wouldn't like some.
@natefriedman97
No pressure.
Phil, I don't know you, but you seem like a great guy.
elad eliahu
You know, he's a rock star.
He's platinum.
tate brown
Platinum.
elad eliahu
What's the name?
tim pool
All that remains.
No one's waterfalling.
You guys are all just basically kissing each other.
elad eliahu
We're men.
tate brown
We're practicing for hex.
unidentified
Alcohol.
brett dasovic
I cannot drink it.
But Phil, Sarah, congratulations.
tate brown
Let's go.
tim pool
Have some chocolate pneuma.
tate brown
What do we got here?
brett dasovic
I got my.
tim pool
There we go.
Congratulations, Phil.
Take as much time as you need.
We'll see you when you're back.
tate brown
Salute, Phil.
elad eliahu
You're going to stop surge.
tate brown
Phil is.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, Surge bottoms up.
Just finish.
Polish it off, man.
This is for Phil.
elad eliahu
Let's go.
unidentified
Hey, Phil.
tate brown
I want you to drink more.
elad eliahu
I take next.
You next?
tate brown
Yes.
Phil, I love you.
You're the best.
And I've been, you've changed my entire perspective on the left lane.
Like, before I came here, it was kind of ambivalent.
brett dasovic
Not for crime anymore.
He's going to have to drive slow now.
tate brown
Welcome to the world, new Patriot.
We have a lot of work to do.
We got to save America.
So as soon as you can talk and walk, let's get to work.
brett dasovic
Have you door knocking for Republican causes?
tate brown
That's right.
elad eliahu
I love that he did the meme: my wife's pregnant, about to give birth.
Yeah, watching Timcast IRL about your wives and labor.
tim pool
It's the meme, the most important thing you can do.
Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
This is wild.
CBS news boss Barry Weiss seen with bodyguards amid heightened security concerns.
We actually have another story I want to talk to you about as well after this, but we're starting here.
Laurel Loomer, someone also got arrested for threatening to murder her, and she's got a police detail, but we'll start with Barry Weiss.
Newly installed CBS news editor chief Barry Weiss had a phalanx of six bodyguards.
Okay, I wish it were true she had a phalanx.
Could you imagine how cool that would be?
Like Spartan-looking dudes with big shields, shoulder to shoulder, marching.
That's not what happened.
In New York, she had guards described as beefy and chiseled as she attended a conference, the New York Historical Society, put on by private equity giant Red Bird Capital.
The source of the detail was hired because there are enhanced security concerns.
It's highly unusual for a news executive to have six bodyguards, a former network exec told the Post.
Now, I'm going to give you my gosh darn honest opinion of Barry Weiss.
I believe she's a fair bit of vanilla pudding.
And I mean that only a little derisively.
Honestly, I have no beef with Barry.
I think she's great.
I think she does good work.
I think she's a little vanilla.
I don't think she pushes back hard enough, but she pushes back a little bit.
And so I try to, I should actually say I'm being a little bit too mean.
I think Barry pushes back a decent amount on the establishment.
And so I'm willing to accept that.
And if this is displacing the corporate media establishment to any degree, we will accept it.
I would much prefer Barry Weiss to represent the American liberal faction than currently whatever woke garbage is.
That being said, take a look at the security that she has.
I'm going to pull up this graph about viewpoint diversity.
Viewpoint diversity left and right.
brett dasovic
He's like one of those guys with the fake arms, so they got the hand inside and the concealed weapon.
tim pool
Here's this image from Reddit that let's see if I can make it bigger.
You may have seen it.
I've talked about it quite a bit.
And this is where we get to the point about why Barry Weiss needs security.
This whole red bubble right here, that's actually the left and the right.
That is America.
The left right here is the far left.
And the right over here are the moderate conservatives.
And the fringe element is probably up and down because it doesn't, the left and the right on this quadrant doesn't literally mean left and right.
Actually, I'm sorry, left actually does, but you can see, I'm assuming they're going authoritarian libertarian.
If you were to get rid of, I wonder if I can, it's not going to let me zoom in, I don't think, yet, and things are red stupid.
If you were to get rid of the blue faction here, just hack it off completely.
This red network represents America where Barry Weiss is on the left of it, which means to this weird death cult on the left, this blue cluster, she's far right.
So even though a lot of people are going to claim that she's a liberal, that she's barely better than woke, they want her dead.
And that is insane of what this country has come to.
And that's why I'm like, good, I'm glad Barry's succeeding because we want her to represent liberal.
I mean, she's spoken out against the weird woke stuff.
We still think she's liberal and we disagree with some of the things she says, but it's America.
It's tolerable.
tate brown
What does that say about the state of the country that Barry Weiss, who, yeah, is fairly centrist, I would say, needs an intense security detail like this?
I mean, that just shows you how crazy the temperature is going.
tim pool
Insane the left is.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
You know what I will add too?
The first thing I'll say is, in no reality is, again, people might take this as an insult or whatever.
I don't care if you do.
In no reality is the free press worth $150 million.
However, I will consider the possibility, nay, the likelihood that CBS is so out of its mind with ineptitude, having no idea what to do.
They saw that she had a relatively small but successful media outlet and said, we want it.
She said no.
They said, we'll give you 50 million.
She said, no.
They said, we'll give you 70.
He goes, I'm not selling.
Then they said, what if we give you 100?
And she goes, no, I'm not going to sell 150.
And she went, okay, fine, I guess.
I think that's probably what happened because the numbers don't add up.
Now, a lot of people think it's a conspiracy.
I think the reality is just legacy media is dying.
As we've discussed already with the Pentagon Press Corps, they don't know what to do.
So why is Free Press worth $150?
It's not, but they're desperate.
brett dasovic
Well, there's also a massive amount of consolidation going on at these companies.
He said CBS is Paramount.
Paramount just merged with Skydance, and Paramount just put in an offer to buy Warner Brothers and was turned down because David Zazlav saw the stock spike after he turned them down.
And now Comcast wants to buy.
So all of these companies are consolidating down further.
And what is David Zazlav doing?
He's like, let's try and relaunch CNN as a streaming service.
tim pool
Are you doing that again?
brett dasovic
Like they're relaunching, yeah, CNN.
tim pool
I got to be honest.
If they hire me to do it, I could save CNN.
Yeah, well, the first thing I'll do is I'd fire everyone.
unidentified
Right.
elad eliahu
You should apply there.
Editor-in-chief?
tate brown
LinkedIn COO.
Oh, boy.
tim pool
It's funny because I like Fox News, but I even feel like they're not good.
brett dasovic
Well, even when you said Mockingbird Media before, it's like, why do you think CNN and Fox rubbed shoulders at the press briefings before?
Because they're all kind of part of that same old guard.
tim pool
I got to be fair to Fox News, though.
I mean, Jesse Waters really hits the establishment pretty aggressively.
elad eliahu
He's no Tucker, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's true.
It's true.
brett dasovic
That's the point, right?
You have the one voice who does that, and you have the other nine voices that seem to maybe not parrot the line, but definitely.
tim pool
I would say Fox News's reporting is fairly vanilla pudding.
Brett Baer, I think, is great.
You watch his stuff and you're like, oh.
You know what I mean?
Like, he said a thing that happened.
You watch Jesse Waters on the five and he, and did you see Guttfeld just going after Tarlov after Charlie got assassinated?
Guttfeld was not having it.
So you've got Guttfeld and Jesse Waters at Fox, and I think they actually do a very good job of calling out the lies and the manipulations.
elad eliahu
You know, you keep saying vanilla pudding like it's a bad thing.
Frankly, I like my vanilla pudding.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Why did you take it that way, Ilad?
Because vanilla is delicious.
I'm saying that there's a distinction between when you walk into a grocery store and they've got 800 brands of vanilla, of course we like it.
Everybody likes vanilla pudding.
But sometimes you've got a brand of pudding which is butterscotch caramel fudge swirl with peanut butter on top.
And maybe you don't want it.
Vanilla pudding just means it's not crazy because it's like Jesse Waters is not vanilla pudding.
You know what I mean?
Like Brett Baer does a good job.
That's what I'm saying.
Vanilla pudding is delicious.
Maybe you want to add wafer cooking.
elad eliahu
I'll just say I like vanilla pudding.
Read into that what you will.
Back to the Barry Weiss story, though.
Her having security, six security guards is the norm given our current political climate.
I think there was just a DOJ indictment against somebody threatening the life of Hakeem Jeffries.
There is just a DOJ indictment.
That's like somebody threatening, wasn't it?
Yeah, somebody he was pardoned for his involvement in genuine.
Then there's also a DOJ indictment for somebody threatening to kill Laura Lumer and a couple of other right-wing Zionist people.
Of course, we are coming off the heels of the murder of Charlie Kirk outside of the Israeli embassy in D.C. We saw the murder of the two Israeli embassy workers.
We also saw Josh Shapiro's home be firebombed.
tim pool
Yep.
elad eliahu
Luigi Mangioni, of course.
This is just off the top of my head.
So this will be the norm moving forward.
Your legislators, the lawmakers, the political commentators are now living in fear because the norm is to threaten to murder and kill them.
brett dasovic
Look, okay, so a couple weeks ago, somebody posted a picture of like Barack Obama and Mitt Romney at one of the debates and said like, this was the last time politics felt like it had some decorum to it.
And all the comments were like, they called him a Nazi too, right?
But the difference was back then, it was a more, you know, extreme part of the left's faction, whereas now you just have the mainstream politicians saying the same thing.
So the whole of the party has shifted.
elad eliahu
If someone were to get killed in the political space, nobody would be surprised.
Everybody's on the table.
If they were able to get shots on the president, it's fair game for everybody.
And I think, unfortunately, the more violence that we're seeing, it will beget more violence.
We're still in the throes of it.
More is still to come.
It's going to get worse before it gets better.
tim pool
This is my point about vanilla pudding, okay?
It means it's not the fringe.
It means it's the normal.
elad eliahu
The mainstream.
tim pool
When Barry Weiss, who is vanilla pudding, that's not an insult.
Just means that she's not like dressed up like a clown, running around doing weird things.
She's running like, she launched a newsroom.
The newsroom, when you read the articles, are extremely straightforward.
She built up a subscriber base.
I don't see mathematically how it's worth $150 million, but I can see culturally why CBS would be like, we're desperate.
Six bodyguards.
They said there's a heightened security situation.
And it's like, when Barry Weiss has to have security to this degree, something like it is, it is, it is bad out there.
brett dasovic
Is the value in it perhaps that so maybe it's not worth $150 million, but with the election of Donald Trump, a lot of these media organizations definitely tried to pull themselves back towards closer to the middle, that they saw the value in it in being a more moderate, middle-of-the-road outlet that she could bring some types of moderation back to the non-recognition.
tim pool
This is not the way politics flows.
brett dasovic
I'm talking from the media side.
tim pool
It doesn't.
No, this is political.
CBS is considered untrustworthy.
Barry Weiss joining CBS doesn't change their trustworthiness.
What it shows, says to me is that CBS has literally no idea what to do.
So they were desperate and they bought free press.
brett dasovic
Maybe they're thinking ahead, though.
They're like, look, her journalism in the past looks like it's down there, it's middle down the road, and she can foster an environment for a newsroom that will be middle down the road and rebuild trust down the line.
not saying that that's what's going to happen.
I'm saying, is that something that an executive...
elad eliahu
It's best case scenario.
tate brown
It's like when...
tim pool
Sorry, but maybe in the sense that they said, Barry, would you like to run our news division because our woke institution has failed?
And she said, No, because I have mine.
And then she was only willing to sell unless it went for a ridiculous number.
tate brown
Well, I think it's just like, it's like when an NBA team has just had disastrous luck and then they just go into free agency and just pay like a wash player, like a super max contract.
That's what's going on here.
They're just like, dude, okay, just pay, just pay.
I'm like, I don't know, maybe this will spark.
And then you get saddled with this terrible contract.
That's kind of what's going on.
There's just a lot of dumb money right now.
They're collapsing.
They're panicking.
And they just chuck some money at this aging superstar and maybe, you know, we'll win a championship or something.
And never works out.
@natefriedman97
I think like the point.
Get a little closer.
I think you made an earlier point about how, like, I think there's less money now in just bashing Trump 24/7.
I think that's evident with Joy Reid being fired from MSNBC and several other anchors on MSNBC.
And I think, honestly, I think Barry Weiss is probably the best thing for Democrats maybe ever in the last five years because I think there are so many people on the left who feel politically homeless.
There are so many people on the left, and I talk to them on the streets, they hate Trump, but they also don't want to transition minors and have no borders.
tim pool
Yeah, but they hate Trump for no real reason is the problem.
@natefriedman97
I don't disagree with that, but they hate him.
Like, that's how they feel.
So my point being is that Barry Weiss, Barry Weiss restores the 2004 Democrat Party.
brett dasovic
You're trying to speak to the Michael rappapores of the world who like hate Trump, but they're like, but the rest of this stuff is insane.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
Like, Michael, brother.
I've damned them a little bit.
I think he's hilarious.
I just think we were talking with Graham Linehan about how he was just, he was attacking even Dant Dankula, and now he's kind of come to a senses, realizing they were lying to him.
I think Michael will come around too.
And he can hate Trump forever.
He can make fun of Trump.
We've always been okay with that.
brett dasovic
He's softened on that too because of what he saw, the anti-Semitism coming from the left.
tim pool
Bro, the left moving forward, you make a great point.
They are going to just be that their only unifying principle is going to be that they don't like Jews.
And I'm not being cute about Israel.
No, I mean, quite literally, they don't have any policies on the left.
But we had this tweet from Crystal Ball.
This is hilarious.
For me personally, I'll take the candidate with a regrettable tattoo over one who has steadfastly supported a genocide.
Graham Plattner's Nazi Totenkopf tattoo, the death's head, was used by the Nazi SS division, responsible for running concentration camps.
Holy what?
@natefriedman97
This person has influence.
tim pool
Oh, bro, she's got a massive podcast.
elad eliahu
She would never extend this benefit of the doubt to any Republican candidate.
These people lack any principle.
There's no consistency.
And I think that's the issue with people like this.
tate brown
Yeah, like when people.
elad eliahu
They're nakedly partisan.
tate brown
I mean, Peak Hexeth had his days volt tattoo, and they were like, he's going to use the Pentagon to like start a new crusade.
It's like, first of all, it'll be base.
But second of all, second of all, like, what are we doing here?
You know, like, this is absolutely nakedly partisan.
tim pool
No, the response is, oh, come on.
We wish.
tate brown
Yeah, we're going to do three or four.
tim pool
That's awful.
brett dasovic
When?
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, that's terrible.
tim pool
Crusade.
brett dasovic
The thing to that point is, like, it's like when I point it all the time, it's like when you point out the accounts like Defiant L's, which I think ended up being like foreign influence, anyways.
But the point is, it shows you all of the hypocrisy.
It doesn't matter.
That's the point.
Like they don't have any intellectual or moral consistency because power doesn't equate to that.
elad eliahu
You just know Crystal Ball believes people are Nazis for a lot less.
tim pool
The point is, there's a guy with the literal totenkopf.
It's the actual Nazi tattoo on his chest.
He got it removed, by the way, but he had it for 18 years.
It was not something that looked like it.
It was it.
And Crystal Ball is like, I'm totally fine with a guy who for 18 years had this Nazi tattoo on his chest and never got it removed.
brett dasovic
Because he now parrots my beliefs.
tim pool
Because he's anti-Israel.
elad eliahu
These are the same people who when Elon Musk did his hello gesture were convinced.
Ryan Grimm, Crystal Ball were convinced that this was, you know, an overture to Nazis.
They're trying to ingratiate themselves with Nazi.
But no, a literal Nazi tattoo is just like, oh, no, come on, guys.
Like, it's just, he was younger.
It's just a skull of crossbones.
What are you guys talking about?
Elon Rusk.
No, we could read into his intentions with his arm wave.
But no, for this guy with the literal Nazi iconography, it's like, oh, no, we'll give this guy a pass.
And why?
It's because he's running against a Bernie Sanders type in the Senate in Maine.
tim pool
I will say this.
He's a self-proclaimed communist, anti-Fo, and anti-Israel.
elad eliahu
I will say this.
He is definitely only trying to get ahead of the Oppo research now.
That's why he addressed this on Pod Save America because they knew that this OPO research was being shopped around.
The primary isn't until next summer, I believe in June.
So this is his political strategy of trying to get out ahead of it.
And he's hoping in, what, eight or nine months, nobody's going to give a crap.
That's what's going on here, by the way.
That's his political calculation.
tim pool
He's going to get him now.
elad eliahu
Totally.
tim pool
It's insane.
elad eliahu
He's thinking it's better for it to come out now than in 10 months.
Also, one other funny part about this story is that this guy actually also was involved with like training Antifa people on how to shoot guns.
If you want to pull up that story, he has an Antifa flag while he's shooting with people like doing furries.
tim pool
He's somehow both a Nazi and a communist at the same time.
tate brown
It's mass appeal.
Build a broad coalition.
tim pool
Both ends the horseshoe together at last.
tate brown
Yeah, the horseshoe party.
brett dasovic
He hates Jews, but he's not a Nazi.
tate brown
Wait, right.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I think he was just looking for a kosher way to hate Jews.
It was like, it's not acceptable to hate Jews via being Jews so much in terms of communists.
tim pool
I think it's actually this simple.
I think there are a lot of guys who are neo-Nazis who hated Jews and they realized it's socially acceptable on the left.
So they should join the left because the left, that's the one thing they care about.
elad eliahu
Fuentes would get away with a lot more of his rhetoric if he came out as a commie, if he was a Hassan Pikachu type.
tate brown
You know, the streets are calling this the woke Reich.
That's what the streets are saying.
@natefriedman97
The use of the term Nazi was one of the like, I was, it's not a, it's a dumb play by the left because I went to the Tesla takedown protests and I spoke to people that were on the outer edges of the protest.
Okay.
People who were like, I hate that Elon is a part of the administration, but I want to support this.
And I was like, how do you feel about the term Nazi?
And he's like, oh, no, I hate it.
But here it is, the crowd's like chanting, right?
So this guy is just a normal liberal, you know, like vanilla pudding, liberal, whatever you want to call it.
And he's just like, no, I hate this.
And then I spoke to someone who's trans and she was like, yeah, the Democrat Party, they need to get their shit together.
So the left just doesn't have a single message like the right does right now.
It's rough, right?
tim pool
Well, the right doesn't really have a single message either, but the right doesn't have the threat of force against you for defying.
So what happens is America Fest says, Tim Cast, do your show on stage.
And then you end up with someone as crazy as Ian, who know, I don't even understand what his idea is.
He's pro-death penalty.
He wants to spread democracy around, but he looks like a hippie who talks about DMT and graphene.
And he's actually debating.
Then you got Luke, an anarchist or whatever Luke describes himself as.
You've got me, more of a moderate, and you've got Charlie.
All these different views having a discussion and debate because that's why I say that red, that red cluster was America.
The left and the right is there.
We agree we love America.
America is a constitutional republic.
We have disagreements.
We agree to go on stage.
We agree to have these conversations.
The left says, if you defy us, you're a right-wing troll.
You're the enemy and you'll be shut out.
@natefriedman97
Right.
But my only rebuttal to that is that I think if you got a roundtable of like every faction of the right, whatever, most would agree, if not all, would agree, we should close the border.
The left, the only thing they can agree on is that they hate Trump.
tim pool
But that's my point.
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
tim pool
Everybody who is pro the Constitutional Republic of America thinks America should have a border.
That's what defines support for America.
So that's what I'm saying.
You can have a pro-choice, pro-universal healthcare, pro-progressive tax individual debating an economic, laissez-faire capitalist who is a moral traditionalist.
And then when they both, but they're black, but we love America.
We're just trying to figure out what America should be.
When you ask basic things like, should America have borders?
They go, well, of course.
Otherwise, what is America?
The left says, burn it all down, destroy it all.
brett dasovic
That's why they started re-implementing American flags at their protests and stuff like that.
Like somebody sent them a memo.
They're like, you know, you're like losing out a lot of business by having communist flags, but not even any American flags.
tate brown
Yeah, well, that's that's the big tension is like, well, like Platiner, all that, there's, there's a lot of aesthetic variation on the left.
So Platiner is like the tough hicclib, like, you know, hey, don't mess with my, don't misgender my daughter.
But it's like still just like a rebranding of the same ideas.
And then you got like Zoron eating with his hands, and then you got like Bernie, he's like a communist.
So they have a variation in aesthetics, but like fundamentally, they're just trying to repackage the same garbage ideas.
You know, on the right, there's actually kind of more of like an aesthetic, like co-like, it's like concise, but you get a vast variation in ideology.
brett dasovic
When it comes to their large-scale ideas, they're forced to fall in line anyways, like, especially as the far left gains more control in the party, right?
So how many of the there was a time when they believed that like Nancy Pelosi and like the old school Democrats were going to be able to keep the new left, well, not the new left, but the new leftists in line in the party.
But now if you don't fall in line with climate change, if you don't fall in line with open borders, if you won't willingly misinterpret the idea of a legal immigrant as just an immigrant, then you are an enemy to the party.
So yeah, they do all coalesce around the idea that they hate Trump, but Trump is just the figurehead for which is what Tim said earlier, gay race communism.
tim pool
Bro, did you guys see Nick Shirley's video where he asks the guy holding up the sign, do you think illegal immigrants should be deported?
You see this one?
@natefriedman97
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And the guy goes, illegal?
Yes.
And the woman next to him goes, and then he looks at her like, what?
And she's like.
And then Nick's like, do you think them up?
Illegal immigrants should be deported.
And she goes, they're not illegal.
Yeah.
And he was like, well, he says they should be.
And then the guy's like, well, and then Nick asks him, he's like, if someone enters the country illegally, should they be deported?
And the guy goes, I'm not so sure.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
We've harped on this issue.
It is an unbelievably powerful tool to misconstrue language on purpose.
Because first of all, 75% of the people are normies who don't know what you're talking about and will not look into it any further.
The rest of them know that yielding, like using the wrong term is a way to wield power over people because they will not understand the difference.
tim pool
Let me play this.
Play this clip from Nick Shirley.
Let's see if we can get the audio playing right.
There we go.
unidentified
Deportation of illegal immigrants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
She's saying she does it.
If they're illegal, then yeah.
Do you not support the deportation of illegal migrants?
Why not?
tim pool
He does and you don't.
unidentified
It's not illegal.
@natefriedman97
Okay.
unidentified
If someone crossed over the border illegally, should they be deported?
I'm not too sure about that.
tim pool
I hope I did.
unidentified
Tom Carlos is so the top comment says when you fake political ideology to rizz the huz.
tate brown
Real.
Bro.
elad eliahu
I know this guy came legally and he's like, nah, you need to come in here legally, brother.
That's what this guy's thinking.
@natefriedman97
It is like the changing of the definitions of things and also changing the definition of things and inventing new words.
So what's difficult for the left is that they can't have camaraderie around a message because they keep inventing new terminology.
So like one protester that I exposed, she teaches gender expansive youth, right?
That term should not exist.
It shouldn't exist.
So now people on the left have to be like, okay, they have to learn what that is and then they have to figure out a way to support it.
You know, it's just tough.
brett dasovic
It's like when you use the, if you have to argue with somebody about the idea of racism, you have a completely definition of the idea of racism than somebody who learned that term in college.
@natefriedman97
Yeah.
Or simple things like just changing homeless to houseless.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
I say house retard.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's a KC Sharnima joke, but I don't know if she intended to create a phrase That is offensive, but I'm going to use it.
tate brown
Yeah, even like their like, you know, their boiler point, they don't even have agreement on like defund the police.
And like, Zoron advocated for that.
And then he got pressed on it.
He's like, yeah, I'm actually not going to fire any cops.
And then he had all this vitriol to his left.
And I'm like, dude, this guy is basically a socialist.
And even that, they're still like purity testing him.
Like, it's so ridiculous what's going on.
elad eliahu
I do think there are fractures in the Democrat Party that are irreparable, like on a handful of issues.
I think we will be seeing a major realignment in the Democrat Party and maybe even in the Republican Party.
But the Democrat right now is not cohesive.
The Democrat Party is not cohesive.
And I don't think it's tenable as a group for them to stay together.
@natefriedman97
And but like just one like quick thing is that that's where Barry Weiss comes in is because my point about the gender expansive youth.
So I know like people will watch a video of mine and they might be on the left and they'll see that I expose someone who teaches gender expansive youth and they'll say, look, I don't like Trump, but I can turn to someone like Barry Weiss who is on the left who doesn't agree with the term gender expansive youth.
unidentified
That's what I mean by the rescue mission that she's but you can't salvage the Democratic Party.
tim pool
I agree with you, but they're look at what Newsome Pritzker and these other people vying for power do.
They're going to pander to these crackpots.
elad eliahu
Well, I think it's these three issues that are seriously fracturing the Democrat Party.
It's the trans stuff.
It's the immigration and open borders.
And then Israel.
Those are like the three main factors that you will find people in the same party on opposite sides of.
And that's some of the biggest questions that our politics are frankly dealing with right now.
So that is what will continue to be unsustainable in the Democrat Party.
We're going to see more primaries largely built around these issues in the Democrat Party.
And hopefully the Republicans can use it to their benefit.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from Newsweek.
Who is Nicholas Ray, Texas man arrested over Laura Loomer death threats?
And we have this report from the Telegraph.
Laura Loomer given police protection amid anti-Semitic death threats.
This is crazy.
Check this out.
A Texas man has been arrested for making death threats to media figures, including Laura Loomer, posting on ex-Florida Attorney General James Utmeyer.
Said his office had obtained an arrest warrant for Nicholas Ray of Spring, Texas, after it was notified of multiple specific death threats made to Jewish conservative media members who live in Florida.
Loomer revealed she was one of the people who had been targeted in another post on X. Newsweek reached out to Loomer in the Florida Attorney General's office by email for comment on the story, whatever.
Threats come at a time of heightened worries.
This we understand.
I've certainly talked about it.
You get it.
Writing on X Loomer said she had received credible threats made against her life in the lives of several Jewish and pro-Israel conservatives.
She said the threats were targeted at Jewish Trump-supporting conservatives who lived in Florida.
I became one of Nicholas Ray's targets because he was radicalized by the false accusations that I'm a foreign agent.
And then he proceeded to make a serious and credible threat against my life.
We have this from the Telegraph.
They say police have been stationed outside right-wing influencer Laura Loomer's home after she received anti-Semitic death threats.
Ms. Loomer, one of Trump's most loyal attack dogs outside of his administration, was among several Jewish figures in Florida who had been subject to a barrage of online threats and abuse.
I will just stress: the left just held their No Kings protest.
Hassan Piker has gone on the ground to various protests.
The right cannot do this.
Prominent right-wing conservatives live under 24-7 armed guard because of what the left has threatened against them and what they've actually carried out.
The current state of this country is that the left is a psychotic faction of violent, terroristic ideologues.
And I'm sorry, I am not playing these stupid games where liberals are like, well, not me.
Yeah, well, when you got teachers pointing at their neck and going bang, bang, nurses, accountants jumping up and down, cheering for Charlie Kirk's death, when an accountant from Atlanta drives to rural North Carolina and tries to murder a Trump supporter, he's never met just for being a Trump supporter.
This is the left.
And if you find yourself concerned that you're being lumped in with these people, maybe you should leave the left.
elad eliahu
Tim, I wanted to ask you something.
I'm not trying to do any guilt by association, but allegedly, Nicholas Ray, this guy was only following five people on Twitter.
One, Candace Owens, two, APAC Tracker, three, Paul Miller.
It's this guy who dresses as a clown and says the N-word on Twitter a bunch and like TikTok.
And then Israel Exposed and Martin Talk Cowboys, but only those five accounts.
tim pool
Yeah, but what's that?
elad eliahu
Do you make anything of that?
tim pool
That he was tracking APAC Tracker or whatever?
elad eliahu
No, that these were the five accounts that he was following.
Like that's it on Twitter.
tim pool
But what does that mean?
elad eliahu
I'm asking you, do you think that means anything?
brett dasovic
Like you mean from what Again is it influencing how he sees the world?
elad eliahu
Well, that would be the presumption, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
But like I'm not blaming Candace Owens or APAC Tracker for why this person decided to send threats to Laura Loomer and other right-wing Zionists, but it seems as though something on Twitter might have made this person think or informed him on some things that might have led him astray like this.
tim pool
The Israel stuff is getting real hot as well.
It's like this new division again.
elad eliahu
It's like you said, like it's been hot ever since that guy lit himself on fire in D.C. Or when that guy firebombed those people.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
Where was that in Colorado?
elad eliahu
I forgot that happened.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
What?
elad eliahu
Or like when Joshua Piro's governor's mansion got firebombed.
brett dasovic
And something else, didn't that happen to him twice or something else happened to him last year?
elad eliahu
It happened on, I think it was a Jewish holiday.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But like there is a reckoning coming from both parties with what's going with Israel, right?
Like as the next generation comes in, there's less and less support.
tim pool
What if we just changed the name to like Shmizrael and then said it's gone?
There's no more Israel.
elad eliahu
I hate to make this.
I don't want to turn this into an Israel episode.
Nobody wants to hear the Jewish sob stories, but I think people are spurging out a little bit about the Jews on Twitter.
Is that a crazy thing to say?
People are spurging out on Twitter.
tim pool
It's fair to say they've been spurging out for a very, very long time about Zijus.
There was a funny super chat where someone was like, did you guys notice the sunset a little bit weirder today?
Jews?
elad eliahu
Well, I was hopeful too, because for a little while, Candace Owens was blaming this stuff on the Frankists, which I'm Jewish.
I don't know what the Frankists are.
Apparently, there's like a little sect of people who like Jewish.
I don't know.
But I was hoping they were blaming.
tim pool
I heard she's blaming Turning Point USA for killing Charlie now.
Is that true?
elad eliahu
Well, you know, there are a lot of Jews that work there, huh?
tim pool
Is that true?
tate brown
Yeah, I'm sure there are.
elad eliahu
Or Christian Zionists.
I don't think it's just as bad.
Christian Zionists.
tim pool
I don't think TPSA has Jews working there.
I think it's a Christian trying to think.
tate brown
Yeah, it's like Liberty students.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure they're all Christians.
tate brown
Yeah, they're all Christians.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Maybe that's where they went wrong.
tate brown
It could be.
Even if they're hiring?
The Israel-Gaza, like, maybe a third party should come in.
I think the Christians should admit that.
You know, I'm just saying, like, we could give us a crack.
tim pool
I got an idea.
elad eliahu
We need more foreign waves.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Hold on.
I think I can solve the Israel-Gaza thing right now.
We need a third party involved in the whole thing.
So let's carve out more land, put it between Gaza and Israel, a third area.
And give it, and we'll put another.
tate brown
I'd say it should be the UN.
brett dasovic
Is that that?
tim pool
We got to do Taoists or something.
tate brown
No, it should be a rotating seat every year.
The UN just like pulls it like a rabbit out of a hat and it's like, okay, Thailand, you're in charge this year.
Good luck.
elad eliahu
We don't need it.
brett dasovic
They get like, oh.
tate brown
It's like, oh, the Marshall Islands are in charge.
Oh, this is going to be a disaster.
elad eliahu
We don't need three powers in the area.
We don't need two powers in the area.
We need one.
We need one undivided Israel from the river to the sea in the Middle East.
That will be the peaceful solution here.
That's what will maintain and allow for long-term peace to exist in the Middle East.
We need to get rid of these pipe dreams of a Palestinian state.
It will never happen.
Israelis will not allow it.
Maybe this kind of talk is what's driving Nicholas Ray crazy.
I guess I'm happy that I'm kind of irrelevant where I mean the issue is how long the war has been going on.
tim pool
Because if we look back at other wars throughout history that last a few years, I mean, look at like Texas breaking off from Mexico or whatever, or the Mexican-American War.
We basically took California.
It was a few years and then it's over.
And then everyone's like, yep, the land is gone.
But when you have 70 years of this conflict, it's never going to happen.
elad eliahu
We're not letting the Jews finish the job.
We have to let the Jews finish the job of killing all of the terrorists that are in the Palestinian territories.
We need them to be completely neutered.
We can't tie one hand behind their back and do a ceasefire and then trade 20 for 2,000 prisoners.
Israel got back 20 living hostages and they gave back 2,000 Palestinian prisoners, including 200 that have blood on their hands.
Look, I thought Jews are supposed to get the best fucking deals around, right?
This deal is retarded.
It's the worst deal I could imagine.
It is not sustainable.
We are incentivizing hostage taking by giving them numbers like this.
tate brown
But I'm good at deals and negotiations.
elad eliahu
Me too.
And I thought the president was too.
And I wanted to tell him, I just had to think, Tim, 20 for 2,000.
tim pool
Here's what we're going to do.
Trump's going to go in.
He's going to take all the Palestinians.
He's going to bring them all to, where did you say the Marshall Islands?
tate brown
That could be an option.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Then while they're temporarily having their beautiful vacation, is it nice there?
tate brown
It's probably.
Yeah, there's a base.
tim pool
Then we're going to build Maragaza.
And there's going to be a Ferris wheel, a port.
There's going to be kebab on fast food and there's going to be sticky rice.
brett dasovic
It's like Atlantic City.
tim pool
Ooh.
Yeah.
tate brown
I like that.
tim pool
And then they all come back and they have nice houses and everyone's happy.
You know, they asked like, and there will be no Hamas.
You know?
elad eliahu
I think we could just take all the people that are a problem and just push them somewhere else.
tim pool
Oh, like, didn't Giuliani do that with the homeless people in New York?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
He put them all on a bus and just bust them to Harlem.
unidentified
Enough.
tate brown
You're going to the Bronx.
elad eliahu
Seriously issued people.
It's like, it's quite simple.
You know what's funny is that all the people need to be removed.
tim pool
That's what they do in Chicago.
That's like a very common solution.
brett dasovic
You bust them out of state, right?
tim pool
Well, in Chicago, when there was, like, I talked about the gang neighborhood, LeClaire Courts, the city just said, bulldoze all the houses, and then we don't care what happens.
And then what they did was all these people that were all the gangbangers went to Joliet.
So it's like, it's not Chicago anymore, so it ain't our problem.
brett dasovic
They asked like James Gunn, like, if when he saw Superman, right?
tim pool
And they were like, Peacemaker sucked.
brett dasovic
But you saw Superman, they were like, did you make this movie?
Like, was this supposed to be a commentary on Israel and Gaza?
He's like, well, actually, I wrote this movie before the writer's strike.
I made this movie before the war.
And I was like, they're like, you made this movie before 1948.
Is that what they said?
tim pool
Is that what they said?
brett dasovic
People on Twitter were like, you made this movie before 1948.
tim pool
It was funny, though, because after I saw Superman, people were like, it was clearly Israel and Parlston.
And I was like, it was Indians and Eastern Europeans.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I was like, I don't, I don't see Christmas.
brett dasovic
Okay, so they did give the one dude like he had the hot soldier, the hot female soldiers.
I thought that was a nod to the IDF.
tate brown
Yeah, and didn't he get a bagel while he was like going through the portal?
tim pool
Is that what it was?
tate brown
Yeah, I think it was a bagel.
Like, he really wanted the bagel.
tim pool
So I will just say that the season finale of Peacemaker was one of the worst things I've ever seen, and it was terrible.
Episode seven was probably closer to a finale, but James Gunn really screwed up Auggie's death, and I'm disappointed in the show.
brett dasovic
He can't keep it out of the TV shows.
He's better at doing movies.
tim pool
He was doing really like season one is great.
And then season two was pretty good.
It was a little wild all over the place.
And then the one really great moment they had set up, he just ruined.
brett dasovic
I just feel like I grew out of his humor.
tim pool
It reminds me of that scene from, what is it, Tommy Boy, where he's talking to the waitress and he's like, got the bun in his hand and he's like, and I stroke it and caress it.
Nice!
He rips it to shreds.
That's what James Gunn did to Peacemaker.
Yeah.
I just had to say that.
And this is the first opportunity I had to bring it up.
brett dasovic
Happy to help.
tim pool
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brett dasovic
You got to have like the sign from V for Vendetta, the strength through unity sign that he carves the V in on the wall at the beginning of the movie.
tim pool
I mean, it's funny because they paint in that movie, it's a Christian nationalist society, strength through unity, and they're evil villains who are torturing people.
I would, you know, what I'd like to do?
I'm really excited for AI because already Sora 2 has the capability to make feature-length movies that are good.
The problem is that the processing power is too great and there's too many people who want to use it.
But I guarantee you, Open AI internally is probably already doing this.
It's just not released to the public.
I am going to make a few movies.
One, Darth Vader is the good guy.
The Empire did nothing wrong.
It's all propaganda.
And then I'm going to make Viva Vendetta, where V is the bad guy, and it's all propaganda.
@natefriedman97
Can we remake season six to eight on Game of Thrones?
tim pool
Yes.
@natefriedman97
Seven days.
We'll do seven to eight.
brett dasovic
At least so you can see what's going on in some of the things.
@natefriedman97
We just need to remake the ending.
I can't rewatch the show, even though it was my favorite of all time.
tim pool
I'd like to make remake Viva Vendetta.
And my argument is this: obviously, in the film, the government are the bad guys.
They staged a fake pandemic, killed people, shut things down.
brett dasovic
Experimented on people.
tim pool
Experiment on people.
What I would do is I would rewrite it from the perspective of V being the villain trying to tear down a country because in the V universe, the United States has fallen into civil war and much of the world is in disarray and they have isolated themselves to protect them from the outside threats.
You tell it from that perspective where there is this guy who is an extremist trying to destroy the government for his wacky ideological views and people supporting him.
I think it'd be more fun.
Not to mention, if you get rid of the in the in the first Star Wars, what did the Empire do wrong?
They blew the planet.
If you rewrite it from the perspective of the Empire, I put it like this.
Everybody thinks they hear of their own story.
So you rewrite Star Wars from the perspective of the Empire, and it's, you know, Alduran was effectively a terror base.
And he didn't blow it up.
He decimated it.
You know, you rewrite it.
brett dasovic
So like in V for Vendetta, the inciting incident towards the end is where the soldier, the fingerman, kills the little girl wearing the mask.
He'll just remake it so she's got like a bomb vest on.
tim pool
If I was going to have AI do it, I'd literally just say write this with an inverted perspective where the good guys are the bad guys, the bad guys are the good guys and justify it properly, blah, blah, blah.
But I wouldn't write, no, I think I talked about this with the Dublin riots.
I don't appreciate Antifa riots.
Why?
Because they're writing like retards for things that make no sense.
I've got only the minorest of criticisms for the riots in Dublin right now.
Why?
Because they're rioting because a quote-unquote asylum seeker raped a 10-year-old girl or has been charged with raping a 10-year-old girl.
So when the police protect somebody who raped a 10-year-old girl or a group of men who have been raping little girls, I can understand why people are rioting because there is an evil governmental force protecting child rapists.
However, we know that's true.
The left thinks that police are going around massacring black people, and that's not true.
Their riots are retarded.
So I don't like rioting in general.
That's why I'm saying I have criticisms.
Don't burn down police vehicles and stuff.
There are ways you can be more effective than this.
But I'm also like, I understand why they're rioting.
@natefriedman97
Did you hear about the girl in Sweden who was raped?
Did you guys hear about this?
tim pool
Which one?
@natefriedman97
Come on.
So she was raped by an asylum seeker in quotes.
And the judge ruled that it wasn't long enough to deport him, but the rape was not long enough.
elad eliahu
Do you know how long?
@natefriedman97
That's an actual thing.
No, but that's an actual thing that occurred.
elad eliahu
I mean, if that's how we're measuring stuff.
tim pool
All right.
Let's read your chats.
We got Mythos.
He says, war thunder is a far more serious national security risk than a scene in an employee nowadays.
Uncontested says, correction, they want to eat their cake and have it too.
Yep.
Money Badger says, follow Antifa, and what you'll find are furries and commies, but you follow the money and you have no idea where they'll take you.
unidentified
Yep.
It's true.
tim pool
Shades Water says, congrats to Phil and Sarah.
elad eliahu
Let's go.
Do we know if they had a boy or girl?
I guess I'll wait in the awesome.
tim pool
We're going to wait for Phil.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Deplorable says, who was putting the pallets of bricks on corners during the summer of love?
Random acts of brickings?
brett dasovic
Was that ever like, I thought somebody said that was debunked or something.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't believe it.
Like, there's a pallet of bricks next to a building for no reason, and they're just like, it just so happens, whoever these protests are, there's construction that needs pallets of bricks.
Yeah.
I don't believe it.
It is weird those bricks were everywhere, but who knows?
tate brown
Yeah, there's just like constant, you know, all this new brick construction that we're seeing.
brett dasovic
How hard is it stuff built?
tate brown
Everything's made of plastic now.
What do you need the bricks for?
tim pool
Mason says, if you remake Game of Thrones, Jamie needs to kill the Night King with his sword, newly aflame with the voices of everyone who called him Kingsland.
You mean Kingslayer?
As the only sound you hear.
Keller says, just a simple question.
Why wouldn't Israel build the exact same buildings and city next to Iran and just move Gaza there?
elad eliahu
I don't think Iran would take them in, but I do like the idea for Egypt.
Like Egypt should annex parts of Gaza.
@natefriedman97
Bro.
They don't want the go.
elad eliahu
We have to force that.
@natefriedman97
The wall is bigger on the Egyptian side.
Jordan doesn't want it.
Jordan doesn't want them.
Egypt doesn't want them.
You should listen to Egyptians talk about Palestinians.
elad eliahu
Well, Jordans don't want their country to be taken over.
Jordan is already, I think, 30 or 40% Palestinian, but their king isn't.
They also dealt with terrorists from the PLO, I believe it was.
I believe one of the kings of Jordan was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist.
So there's a lot of resentment and tension there.
Rather make it their issue, though.
tim pool
One thing we can do is we can Neuralink everybody.
And then they'll just stop fighting.
elad eliahu
Yo, did that even go anywhere?
I swear Elon Musk announces things that just disappear from people caring or there was a big advent in Neuralink.
Sure.
tim pool
We discussed it.
And now we're waiting for the next development.
@natefriedman97
No, there was.
unidentified
There was like a guy controlling Hoi Force.
@natefriedman97
That's crazy.
tim pool
He was playing Civilization, I think.
Yeah, he's playing Civilization.
@natefriedman97
Don't bet against Elon Musk.
tim pool
He's totally paralyzed and he's sitting there and they put a computer from him.
He was playing Civilization.
tate brown
He's playing Civs.
elad eliahu
Like, great.
unidentified
We made him autistic.
tim pool
Civ's great, man.
tate brown
I love.
I'm saying this as a devout Civ player.
tim pool
All right.
The Real Hydro says, Timcast IRL number 913 with Ryan Long and Danny Polishock, quote.
He adds that if an acid eats the metal, quote, it leaves a plastic bag, the hole inside is coated.
What is that from?
This liquid head thing is kind of funny because a bunch of news outlets are like talking about picking it up.
And the CEO just made it so bad for himself.
Here's an AI news website talking about it.
I don't know.
But yeah, I've been talking about this for a long time.
Uh-oh.
Oh, yeah, a bunch of people are talking about it.
Pool water.
Spa water will be carbonated.
Someone said, someone said, make toilet water.
I said, that'll be our chocolate drink.
brett dasovic
If you can get as much carbonation as the Mineragua water, let's just go.
tim pool
Minaragua is a glass bottle water with a crown cap.
It does have plastic in the cap, and it's about $1 per bottle at your local grocery store.
brett dasovic
I get the plastic, I can get it in a plastic bottle at the dollar store.
tim pool
No, but you can get them in glass for a dollar as well.
brett dasovic
So if you like glass bottles, probably different sizes.
tim pool
12 ounces.
brett dasovic
Yeah, the plastic bottle is like 16.
tim pool
I think they might, I'm pretty sure they're 12-ounce bottles.
If you want a glass bottle product, rubber corks were incredibly common, I think, even like 30 years ago, but they cost around two cents more per crown cap.
So if you want plastic-free, it is available.
These things do exist.
But most people just never cared about the plastics.
So nobody cares if the gasket on your crown cap is plastic versus rubber.
tate brown
We could do the plastic bottle and call it slop water.
It could be an option.
tim pool
Slop water.
tate brown
Or like sell like Flint water.
We have some options.
tim pool
There's a lot of options.
I think we're actually going to do cans of water as well for the people that don't care about plastic.
And we're going to, right, pool water in a can for people who don't care about plastic.
unidentified
Yeah.
I don't want to count a freaking spa water.
elad eliahu
Did they ever fix the flint water?
tim pool
I don't know.
elad eliahu
We just cruised by.
tate brown
I think everyone just moved out, so we don't know.
Yeah, there's no light.
elad eliahu
It's not an electricity.
tim pool
Hey, I'll tell you what.
brett dasovic
I was in Michigan from my beginning.
I made sure not to go to Flint.
tim pool
I'll tell you guys a story.
I went to Flint and I took samples of the tap water from several buildings as well as from the river and brought it to NYU for spectral analysis to see what was wrong with it.
Nothing.
So I was at Fusion.
This was during the Flintwater crisis where the media was all claiming the water was bad.
And so I said, I got a great idea.
Let's go and collect water samples and film a video where I do a spectral analysis on the water with a mass spectrometer.
And then we can show just what's wrong with the water.
They loved the idea.
I went to NYU.
I reached out to them, got a sample kit.
They said, we need control samples and then we need, you know, regular samples.
So what we did was I took samples of water from where I lived in Miami in the Redlands, two of each.
You take two samples from one, from each water source.
Went to Flint, went to a residence, went to two businesses, and went to the river, collected water from two different parts of the river, two samples from each, went back, gave them the samples, and they found that the Flint water was totally fine.
And the water from Miami was really high in uranium.
And they believe that's from fertilizer run up from the farmlands.
And I went to my company.
I can't remember exactly who I was talking to, but I was like, we got the results back from NYU and it found the water was fine.
And the response was, well, that can't be right.
Something must be wrong with to do it again because everyone's already reported the water is toxic and bad.
It's got lead in it.
And I was like, I got the samples from a house, two businesses, and the river, and we didn't see high levels of lead or anything.
I think selenium was high, but that wasn't considered to be a big deal.
And we were like, how do we publish a story that goes against literally everything every news organization is saying right now?
We must have gotten something wrong.
So either we go back and redo this or the story's dead and the story died.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I'm actually just more inclined to believe that they lied the whole time.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Sounds like it.
tim pool
What do I know?
All right.
Anyway, let's grab some more.
Millennial Mama says, Glenn Beck said that when the FBI visited him, they said they were starting from scratch with the Anti-Fund investigation.
They wanted info that came from his October 8th special.
Glad to hear they've gotten pretty far, gotten pretty far pretty quickly.
Indeed.
Brian Dayton says: if you created the Timcast newsroom, I would 100% support and be a longtime viewer.
Time for Timcast to put CNN out of business.
So here's an interesting thing.
We actually had around 10,000 more members than we do today because of the newsroom we had at the time.
But the newsroom was costing us an insane amount of money and we were getting sued over it.
So it was unsustainable.
We moved it to Scanner.
We couldn't figure out how to monetize it.
And ultimately, we were like, it's not performing the way we need it to, and it's draining our resources.
So I think we got to shut it down.
We tried moving some people over to make sure people were still able to work.
But considering now the changing landscape, we've actually been having a discussion about bringing back some elements of the news team, but to scanner.com, not through Timcast.
SCNR right now largely just hosts the Inverted World podcast, and it was where our news team was.
But we're actually thinking of bringing back independent news reporting through scnr.com.
And we're openly discussing it.
It is incredibly expensive.
It is extremely hard to do.
Now that we got Pentagon press credentials, we'll get at least some value.
We can bring some value to you guys.
Don't expect deep investigative stuff because that's not what we do.
It's going to be more general inquiry questions.
When a news story happens pertaining to like the boat strikes in Venezuela or whatever, we'll reach out for a comment, things like that.
That's what we're looking at right now.
And I think it would be a very good idea.
But it's going to be wholly separate from Timcast.com, Discord community, and all that stuff if we do it because this was the problem.
The muddying, like Timcast.com offering everything from the podcast and a news team.
When the news team got in trouble, it threatened to shut the podcast down.
So then we were like, let's move the news team to a different company so that they're two separate entities because Timcast IRL is a separate entity with its own standards.
It shouldn't get shut down because someone wrote a news article.
The problem then is we need to create two distinct memberships.
So how many of you would be willing to pay $10 a month for Timcast.com and $10 a month for Scanner News.
brett dasovic
And brand recognition matters too.
tim pool
Right.
But the scanner was using Timcast News.
You know, it's a separate company using, and we allow the branding to be used in that way.
So that would be the idea.
We could theoretically make, yeah, that's the challenge.
The news team needs its own unique funding.
The podcast needs its own unique funding.
Boonies needs its own unique funding.
It's very, very difficult.
How many of like how many people want to sign up for Timcast Scanner and Boonies?
That's the challenge we're facing for the core fan base.
Hopefully Boonies will build up its own members who just care about skateboarding.
And the newsroom will build up its own members who just care about news.
But we're going to start small this time.
The original idea was we have the budget.
We're going to hire journalists.
And then we started, the show started getting put at risk very seriously.
Now, what I think we'll do is we'll bring on like one or two journalists for SCNR, start putting out some articles, and then build up memberships from there and grow it organically.
So we'll have some reporting from the Pentagon for you.
And the media will cry.
What do we got here?
Scott Kuhn says, charitable foundations get around the ban on lobbying Congress by setting up an NGO and making donations large enough no one has to report where it came from or where it went.
You know, I'm fairly certain that lobbying is done at the poker table.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Ain't nothing anyone can do about it.
You sit down at a poker table, you buy in for 50 grand.
The lobbyist then says, I'm going to bet $25,000.
brett dasovic
Oh, you're saying like actual payments?
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
brett dasovic
Like that.
tim pool
You go to a poker table.
Lobbyist sits down, bets $25,000 on their hand.
The recipient then says, I'm all in.
The lobbyist then goes, you got me.
I fold.
And now you have a recordable legal transaction from a lobbyist to the recipient, politician or otherwise, or PAC or whatever group.
And when it goes to the file your IRS, you say, it was a poker game.
elad eliahu
Maybe Pritzker had something like that going on.
I think he had a feedback.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
BS.
elad eliahu
I forgot.
I need to reread the article, but he had like gambling winnings of over a million dollars or something like that.
tim pool
$1.4 million from Pritzker.
And he said, I got lucky playing cards.
His reported income for the year was $10 million.
Ain't nobody making 14% of their income, getting lucky one weekend.
He goes, look, we went to Vegas for a week and I got very lucky playing cards.
I mean, he is a billionaire.
So maybe he played some high-stakes poker or something.
But I'm going to go ahead and say, just not that I have any evidence to this, but I think, guys, let me tell you, you know, watch Hustler Casino or The Lodge when they play high stakes.
And there are certain characters you'll see on these shows that they'll make a bet of like $100,000 on the worst hand imaginable.
There was recently a guy, and I'm not trying to appeal anyone's honor.
I'm not accusing him of anything.
I'm saying this is an example of a weird scenario.
He had 8-3 offsuit.
Okay, for those who don't know anything about poker, that is like your chance of winning is less than 10%.
And he bet 100 grand and lost.
And everyone's like, yes, why would you do that?
He must have been tilted, I guess.
Makes you wonder.
elad eliahu
There's this guy, Nick Airball, who plays on hustlers.
That's his brand.
To like shoot.
tim pool
His brand is no one understands where his money comes from.
elad eliahu
That's what it's too.
tim pool
No, no, no.
His brand is not shoving 8-3.
Nick's better than that.
It's just he's largely considered to be not that good of a player who somehow lost $5 million one year.
elad eliahu
You and Allison, you guys are pretty good poker players.
You guys can see that.
tim pool
Allison's called the Manslays.
Allison's nickname is the Manslayer.
elad eliahu
I've never beaten her in poker.
Whenever I play with her, I lose to her.
tim pool
You can't.
elad eliahu
She's too good.
But does she come across winnings like that?
Is she a Pritzker-level gambler?
tim pool
No, we play low stakes.
1-2, bro.
elad eliahu
Well, she is the Manslayers.
tim pool
It's like on a weekend, you enter.
1-2 means it's usually 400, 500 bucks.
And then Allison is very patient and she destroys all of the men.
elad eliahu
I need to join you next time you guys go play some poker.
It's been a while.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
brett dasovic
I like the idea that Tim goes.
He's like, I'm going to Brett bet Brett's salary this week.
elad eliahu
Dude, you should see him at the poker table.
The way Tim plays.
Well, he's obviously very comfortable in the stakes that he plays because people get stressed out when you get shoved on, but Tim doesn't have that stress.
tim pool
Well, those are bad poker players.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
People should not be playing at stakes that they can't afford.
elad eliahu
They can't pay croll.
tim pool
Right.
So you'll see a dude show up to the casino and he's playing one-two-bun for $100 and he's shaking.
It's like, bro, take your $100, go home.
Like, put it in your bank, save your money, work hard, come back when you can afford a dollar, $2 bet.
elad eliahu
Allison eats fish like those for breakfast.
tim pool
They call the Manslayer.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
We were driving to the card room a year and a half ago, and I was jokingly telling her, like, oh, we're going to pull in.
And the old men, they're sitting there, they're playing.
They're going to see her and they're going to go, oh, no, it's the manslayer.
And she's chuckling, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We walk into the casino, and some old guy goes, oh, not you.
And then she started laughing.
The reason why she's so good at poker is because she goes to the casino to hang out, largely to play with me.
So we want to play at the same table, and it's fun to hang out.
So for me, I'm doing all this advanced strategy and I'm trying to trap people.
I'm trying to experiment with like, you know, bluffing a certain guy and goofing off.
So it can be give or take sometimes.
Allison is just like, fold, fold, fold kings, I bet.
And then when they bet, she's like, I'll call, I'll call, I'll call.
And so they think she's weak and then jam and she calls, I have the nuts.
And they're like, no one can beat her because she's only playing the strongest hands and she doesn't raise.
elad eliahu
Don't take this the wrong way.
She looks bluffable and she'll call you down.
That's the issue.
I've tried to bluff her.
She's strong, stay hard.
She doesn't fall.
tim pool
Well, it's just that the thing is, I would just describe Allison as playing at advanced poker at the highest level, they'd probably crush her because they'd start pulling off bluffs and they'd start exploiting.
But at low stakes, she just plays the tightest game possible.
So it's like for her, it's nuts or nothing.
And then what ends up happening is someone thinks she can't be that strong, and then she always ends up beating him.
We got to grab more super chats, stop talking poker, though.
All right.
Daniel J. Corica says, Long Island has a larger population than Rhode Island.
If the communist becomes mayor of NYC, Long Island should become the 51st state and tell New York to go spit.
elad eliahu
Yo, who is this based Patriot sending in this super chat right now?
tate brown
Long Island Nationalists?
elad eliahu
And we're taking Brooklyn and Queens when we secede.
Brooklyn and Queens are a part of Long Island.
Go look at a map.
tate brown
You'll need Rikers.
There's a lot of people that need to go there.
unidentified
Sure.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
That's true.
tate brown
Multiple islands involved.
tim pool
Dennis Hughes says, congratulations to Phil and Sarah.
Shout out.
tate brown
Yes, sir.
tim pool
GT Orvitz says, baby, just got to hospital to welcome my third child.
Shout out to Serge from Parma, Idaho.
tate brown
Let's go.
elad eliahu
We're making babies, dude.
tate brown
Elon, you can take a few weeks off.
Humping out a lot of Patriots here.
This is great.
tim pool
We are now at the phase with my daughter where she's about, what, eight months now.
And I made a strawberry smoothie, and she was having lentils and I think like mashed carrots.
And she just stopped eating and just stared at me as I was scooping this delicious strawberry smoothie.
And, you know, Allison was like, I don't understand.
She always, she loves everything.
And I'm like, because she's seeing me eat this and she's like, I want what he's having.
She doesn't want to eat the healthy food.
She wants to know what I got because mine looks very different.
And she wouldn't open her mouth.
And it was very funny and we enjoyed it.
All right, everybody, smash that like button.
Share the show with everyone.
You know, we're going to go over to rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion of the show where you, as members of the Discord, can call in.
So make sure you join us at Timcast.com.
10 bucks a month.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Nate, do you want to shout anything out?
@natefriedman97
Yeah, if you guys want to know who the paid protesters are, Nate Friedman97 on YouTube.
I put out videos like once or twice a week, so definitely check it out.
elad eliahu
Definitely.
Nate is a very worthy follower, and I'm excited to see what's to come.
You have a lot of work to do out there.
Thanks for tuning in, everybody.
My name is Alad Eliyahu.
I'm the White House correspondent and now Pentagon correspondent here at Timcast.
Also, I don't know if you guys noticed I am wearing my UB shirt, the Buffalo Bulls shirt, because I went to college and I know there's this sort of anti-education streak going on in the right.
Guys, after I graduated college, I was too a little bit unnerved with the degree I got and how it went and my job prospects after the fact.
But actually getting an education, the more time I spend around people who didn't go to college, it might be a good idea, guys.
I'll just leave you with that.
Brett?
brett dasovic
He's talking about me, ladies and gentlemen.
If you guys want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms.
But what you should do is check out Pop Culture Crisis.
We are live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern on YouTube and Rumble.
Hope to see you there, guys.
tate brown
Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
Usually holding out on Thursdays, so you'll probably see me tomorrow.
So hang out.
Come hang out.
tim pool
Taking that morning show.
We're grooming Tate.
tate brown
Hey, being actively groomed.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Look, you're up on the donation.
tim pool
It's true.
tate brown
That's true.
This is, yeah.
So, yeah, being actively groomed, but this is a positive grooming.
I'm actually encouraging this.
I think this is good.
tim pool
So when we were talking about the group chats on the Young Republicans, and the meme was where someone called, like someone said gay retard, and then some leftist was like, why would someone call someone a gay retard?
And the response was, because they're my friend.
And then Tate said all of his friends are gay retards.
It's his enemies that are normal.
And I said, this is the kind of talent we need here at Tim Kast.
All right, we're going to see you all over at rumble.com/slash TimCast IRL in a second.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
So, Nate, do you want to say that publicly?
@natefriedman97
Sure, yeah.
I just got an email.
I can even read it out loud.
Basically, it's here says, your account violates the creator monetization account policy and has been disqualified from the program.
If you think this is a mistake, you can submit an appeal.
tim pool
I think maybe you weren't kissing enough boys on TikTok because that's apparently what makes money for them.
elad eliahu
Have you tried kissing boys on TikTok?
@natefriedman97
I don't know.
Honestly, I don't know if I should appeal before I put something out about this.
Like, I don't know, but it's like with TikTok.
I mean, the videos are on Instagram.
They're on X, they're on YouTube.
There's no problems.
And then TikTok, it's like, it's just a crap shit.
tim pool
TikTok is the most censorious platform.
@natefriedman97
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
They're very arbitrary.
Even Facebook is bad, but like we're still on Facebook and Meta, you know, Instagram.
@natefriedman97
So should I appeal or should I like?
elad eliahu
It's very arbitrary.
You should definitely appeal, but not before you write a long tweet about it to try to milk it for impressions on it.
Me on the right, we have this persecution complex where as soon as you're banned from something, you need to bitch and moan.
@natefriedman97
Everything works.
I've seen it work.
tim pool
The left is victimized by everything, and the right never talks about it.
elad eliahu
I think people on the people on the left definitely bitch and moan about it too.
tim pool
But you fart next to a leftist and they're going to say you tried to kill him.
Elot tried to kill me with noxious gas.
It was a fart, bro.
elad eliahu
I do talk a lot of shit around those leftists.
tim pool
Elad, I got to explain to you something, okay?
The problem with one-two is that no one cares about 15 bucks.
So when you're buying it for $400 at a one-two table and you look down at Ace King of suit, it's like you're in a pretty good spot.
What are you going to raise to?
You're opening.
Let's say you're in middle position, right?
elad eliahu
I have the Ace King.
tim pool
You have Ace King, middle position at a 1-2 table.
Let's say you're, well, let's say you're in the cutoff, right?
So you're in a good position and Smallbind Blake Blind folds to you.
How much do you raise for?
elad eliahu
Three times Big Blind.
So $6.
tim pool
$6.
Everyone calls.
The flop comes 738 rainbow.
What do you do?
elad eliahu
I'm fucked.
tim pool
You're fucked because some guys got 7-3 off suits.
That's the problem with low-stakes poker.
No one cares about $6.
So what do you do then?
$20?
elad eliahu
But then if nobody calls, you don't have anybody.
tim pool
You win $3.
That's why you don't play 1-2.
Well, when you know how to play poker, you got to play at least 2-5.
And if you want to make money, you got to play 5 times.
elad eliahu
The thing about poker, too, is that you need to be comfortable with the flips.
You need to be comfortable going all in with Ace King suited.
tim pool
No.
elad eliahu
I think so.
tim pool
You're allowed to fold.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but if you fold, then you don't get a tournament.
tim pool
You're not in a tournament, bro.
I think it'd be stupid to fold aces or kings because you have an 80% chance of doubling up whatever you put in.
elad eliahu
So you get shoved on, you have Ace King suited.
You get shoved on.
Are you comfortable enough to call or fold?
No flop, but it's all pre-flop.
tim pool
So stakes matter.
Shove doesn't always mean they cover you.
So what are we talking?
elad eliahu
Let's say one, two stakes.
You both have 500.
You know, let's say.
tim pool
If I'm playing tight and trying to actually leave with money and someone shoves on me, I would consider folding Ace King suited, depending on the player.
elad eliahu
Damn, that's tight.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Not Ace King offsuit.
Not Ace King suited.
elad eliahu
Ace King suited.
tim pool
We're going down.
Bro, I want that royal flush.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
I don't care if it's one in 680,000, 250 by the river.
So you got aces, kings, queens.
Bro, fold queens.
elad eliahu
Fold queens to a shove.
tim pool
Don't be stupid, dude.
Like, if it depends, if, if, listen, don't fold queens to a, to a, to a, uh, a single, all, a single jam.
But if you're looking at a three-way all-in, okay, you got no problem.
elad eliahu
I got to assume they have overs, somebody has ace king, somebody has maybe even kings.
If there's multiple people, it's multi-world.
tim pool
You know, the challenge with it is if they both have ace king, you're going to win.
Yeah.
And so queens can be a bit more of a challenge.
elad eliahu
But as soon as you get to jiggity's and tens, that's when I'd say fold to the shoves pre-flop.
tim pool
Maybe or just call.
Don't let them shove.
Like, you know, you open, they, they re-raise, you call.
And then maybe you'll hit a set or something.
But here's the thing: if you're opening at one, two, it's going to be a $10 to $20 open.
No one gives a shit about $20.
Everyone's going to be against $20.
But then what?
You're playing 1-2 and you open to 40 bucks.
People are going to build.
elad eliahu
They're really tight.
If you raise to 15, people are folding.
tim pool
Yeah.
Anyway, let's go back to talking about really fucked up shit instead of poker.
I was just doing that because Eli brought it up before the show.
Check this out.
We got a few more minutes.
Dublin riots.
I have a question for you guys about this, and it is: how do you feel about them setting fire to police vehicles and launching fireworks at cops?
tate brown
I don't feel good about it.
I think of a negative sort of perception of this.
tim pool
Even though they're doing it because the country has started to allow Senegal.
tate brown
Oh, this is Dublin.
Oh, this is base.
Never mind.
No, I like this.
Yeah, like the problem.
The problem in Ireland, this is true, is the problem in Ireland specifically, I've expanded on this in detail.
The reason why Ireland has a propensity to chimp out is for two reasons.
It's two reasons.
It's twofold.
One, they were at, like, basically had kinetic warfare until 1997 when the Good Friday Agreement was signed.
So it's a country that knows how to fight.
Second, it's a very young country relative to the rest of Western Europe.
So they're one of the only countries in the world that is experiencing mass migration, but has a young population.
And third is they don't have a right-wing party to siphon energy off of.
They have a center-left party and a left-wing party.
So the reason Ireland keeps chimping out is because they have no way to actually impose their will at the ballot box.
There's no right-wing party in Ireland.
So it's the same reason in the United States we see leftist violence.
I'm not equating the two.
It's for the same reason on the right.
They just feel like, hey, we're cut off from power.
We're back into a corner.
tim pool
I, in the history, in modern history of conflict, I am, what's the right word?
I would gush if I met the Intel guys who fucking crushed the IRA as mercilessly and perfectly and in such a humiliating fashion as they did.
Whoever the fuck the World Economic Forum guy was that said, let's take Irish Republicanism and turn it to gay race communism is a fucking mastermind.
That dude is a is a fucking demon.
I would be like, wow.
I'm just like, these were Irish nationalists that wanted a nation only for the Irish and you turned them into homosexual globo homo, whatever the fuck.
Now they're bringing in African and Middle Eastern migrants that rape their children.
How did you pull that off?
Shin Fein, the party of the IRA being like, invite all the people from the third world to rape our children.
tate brown
Oh, wow.
They're getting like grenades lobbed on their apartments and they're like, yeah, King Charles is the real problem.
The guy, the gay guy.
tim pool
It's not that.
It's like back in the day, you had these people being like, Ireland for the Irish, fuck the crown.
And somehow, some World Economic Forum Davos motherfucker was like, oh, I'll show you how to crush the IRA.
They want a nation for their people.
Watch this.
Infiltrated and destroyed their political faction and turned them from an Irish nationalist organization into gay race communists that bring Middle Eastern goat herders into their country that rape their children.
Like, talk about being so fucking annihilated.
I'm sorry for yelling, but I'm like, bro, I watch Mortal Kombat and when fucking Scorpion rips the guy's head out and his spine is dangling, this is worse.
This is absolutely worse.
At least when a political faction gets defeated in most of history, there's a remnant of them that exists.
This is just like, wow.
The people who wanted Ireland to be for the Irish are now the gay race communists watching their children get raped.
tate brown
Yeah.
And like Irish republicanism, Irish nationalism always had an undercurrent of left-wing thought.
A lot of people aren't going to like that, but it's true.
And it was because they were in opposition to British unionists.
They were in opposition to the Protestant English who were imposing their will.
So that's just naturally to the British Empire.
So that's just kind of naturally how this that's why the Irish, even going back prior to the like real onslaught of gay race communism, they saw like the Palestinians, they felt like there was like this commonality and that is still continuing.
tim pool
That's how they were conquered because they were like, we are occupied just like the Palestinians are occupied.
But they weren't saying bring Islam into Ireland and change our names to Muhammad.
Now they are.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, but it kind of tracks because like leftist thought and leftist thought inevitably evolves or devolves into let's just exterminate ourselves.
tim pool
I'm telling you, at the World Economic Forum Awards, whoever was in charge of the Ireland issue walks in and gets a standing ovation from every single, they're like, just, you know, in the United States, you have this right-wing populism, American nationalism, Christian nationalism, civic nationalism, and even white nationalism.
And we struggle with every day.
Here's the guy who turned the Irish into Islam-loving third worlders.
Amazing.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, it was there.
But yeah, I mean, obviously it's a little bit different because we're just not used to in the West.
We're not used to like large insurgent groups, paramilitaries.
And Ireland was the only place that had it.
And that's why you're seeing this happen.
tim pool
If you could go back in time to the Troubles and take these guys and show them what the future was going to be, what do you think they'd do?
unidentified
I mean, she hit themselves in the head.
tate brown
But it was like, it was always broadly, it was always broadly a left-wing thing, the IRA.
Like they were this anti-imperialist.
Yes, a lot of class rhetoric.
tim pool
My point is, though, you can be economically left and believe that your nation deserves sovereignty.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but is nationalism for the most part antithetical to the left now?
tim pool
Irish republicanism.
The idea of a unified Irish republic for the Irish people.
And they tried, and they are resurrecting Gaelic, which was crushed by the British.
Now they're going to be speaking Arabic.
tate brown
Yeah, it was just, it was a weird, it was a weird thing because, yeah, they had the nationalism, which is unmistakably right-wing.
They had like a lot of social conservatism.
Like, Ireland was one of the last Western countries to legalize abortion, but they always had this sort of alliance with socialist states.
They had like a lot of the IRA leaders had sympathies with Marxist thought.
And then the class rhetoric obviously was a big thing.
tim pool
Oh, I got a good joke.
How do you say hello in Ireland?
As-salamu alaikum.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Sadly true.
tim pool
Same is true for London.
tate brown
Hello, brother.
tim pool
Welcome to my taxi.
Welcome to my taxi.
@natefriedman97
So do you?
I'm curious, like, do you think that the UK is savable?
tim pool
I mean, I don't know.
What does that mean?
@natefriedman97
What it means is like we see the direction it's going in.
tim pool
Sure, but like to what extent would someone be willing to take the action to do it?
Are we going to land boats on the shores of the UK and storm in and just start?
@natefriedman97
It's an open-ended question.
I just like was curious, your opinion.
tim pool
The answer, well, is it likely to be saved?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Is it savable?
Sure.
We could invade it.
You know what I mean?
Storm negates.
tate brown
I mean, their problem is like their populist right wing, which would be like Farage.
Even he isn't willing to give a full-third of an endorsement for mass deportations.
Meanwhile, in the United States, the Republican Party at the RNC had signed.
It said mass deportations now.
It's like the UK, I think, because they, I think just generally because of the class that populates the political scene is mostly like upper class.
They don't want to embrace populism because it feels dirty and gross.
They leave that to Tommy Robinson and those types, and they don't want to embrace it.
Meanwhile, in America, classes are a bit more fluid.
You kind of move up, and now we're not nearly as like stratified where embracing populism, and then you can intellectualize it later.
Where the UK, they take themselves like, oh, no, that's not for us.
We got to like hash this out at the Oxford Debate Club or whatever.
tim pool
We're going to go to callers.
We got loafers.
What's going on?
unidentified
Hey, how's it going, everyone?
tim pool
It's going.
unidentified
So my question is really to the room, but primarily Tim.
Should we keep blowing up drug boats or should we actually capture those drug runners and throw them into Guatanamo as actual bona fide POWs?
tim pool
The issue, well, there are issues with bombing the boats.
I already said this.
I largely believe they're releasing this because they're clean.
So when the left is like, they're not drug runners.
I'm like, they wouldn't release it to you unless they knew they could face no liability.
It's when you get leaked information when they get scared.
So again, I think we should have a clean investigation.
They should present evidence of their case and justify what they're doing.
I bet the best investigative reporter is not going to find anything dirty in these strikes.
They're going to be fairly routine.
The reason why Trump is doing them is to terrify the other narco-traffickers.
They don't care about capturing you and putting you in prison.
That's the kind of thing that makes them say, okay, what's my worst case scenario?
I'll get captured.
No, he wants to blow you up and say, we're not going to try to capture you.
We're just going to kill you.
So that way people go, I ain't fucking doing that.
I'll get drone striked.
So I don't know that it makes sense to just capture people on boats that way.
These people want to ship big old fucking boatloads of narcotics and fentanyl and shit into our country.
We have a right to defend our borders from people who intend to kill us.
tate brown
Tim, what do you think about Kurt Mills?
He's been kind of sounding the alarm.
He's saying that the State Department's trying to set the table for a potential regime change operation in Venezuela.
tim pool
Yep.
I would argue that there is a substantially larger justification for regime change in Venezuela than any Middle Eastern country.
tate brown
Monero Doctrine.
tim pool
Because, sure.
We're being attacked, though.
Right.
The Venezuela's got, they've released people from their prisons.
And I know that the left doesn't want to hear this and the media lies about it.
It's a fact.
Venezuela dumped their prisons and told them to get the fuck out.
These people then came to the United States.
Biden lets them all in.
That doesn't mean we should go regime change Venezuela.
I like the deterrent, defend our borders.
I don't like the invade and disrupt and cause all these problems.
The concern is the United States has a very bad track record with this, and we could destabilize the region.
And then we're really fucked because that's on our doorstep.
So, you know, Trump's probably going to do it.
I think it's probably a bad idea.
elad eliahu
They are trying to encourage people to rise up in Venezuela.
tim pool
Yeah, well, that's how they do the regime change.
tate brown
This is also like personal for Marco Rubio's from South Florida, and that's a really important issue to voters in South Florida, is like taking out Venezuela.
Like it's like a personal act of grant.
Not saying that there's not valid reasons to do it.
I'm just saying Marco Rubio specifically has a bone to pick with Maduro.
elad eliahu
Beyond Rubio, I feel like there's so many Floridians in the cabinet.
You have Pam Bondi as well, Susie Wiles.
tate brown
Susie Wiles did the staffing, so that's why there's such a large Florida contingent.
elad eliahu
I feel like I'm missing a few as well.
There are a ton of Floridians in the admin.
So it would make sense.
Caller, does that answer your question?
Do you have a follow-up?
unidentified
No, that answers my question pretty well.
I absolutely agree with continuing to blow up.
I think fewer people would just pull them off.
elad eliahu
In any other case, you guys are all neocons, but now we are talking.
tim pool
Any other case where neocons?
elad eliahu
Yeah, if you wanted to blow up boats in any other case, you would blow up drug runners.
It would sound like you're being a neocon.
tim pool
Because the policy about regime change in faraway lands is silly, but the idea of defending our borders from people intent on killing us is normal.
elad eliahu
I totally agree with you.
I feel as though many people would describe what you're advancing, though, as neoconnery.
Like Kurt Mills, for example, I think he would call this neoconnery.
tate brown
He said it's like a neocon way of fucking insane.
tim pool
If there is a cartel member, a known, I want you to imagine, southern border in Texas, National Guard, and across the way, they see a dude with a rifle, known cartel guy, and they're pulling in a bunch of drugs, fucking unload on them.
elad eliahu
To these people, doing anything by force makes you a neocon.
It's what it is.
tim pool
Listen, in the United States, people are allowed to carry guns.
If a guy's walking down the street open carrying in the in I just said there's no issue.
If you see someone attempting to illegally cross the border outside of a border checkpoint, there is strong grounds for the use of lethal force.
Just like now, if they're obviously trafficking drugs, I believe the U.S. military should issue a warning, like whatever that is, warning shot or something.
And if they keep charging forward armed cartel members, we know they murder.
We know they kill, they'll kill children, and we know they're bringing drugs in, kill them, fucking shoot them.
That is defense of a nation.
There's a big difference between sending our troops, our National Guard, to fucking Afghanistan.
What the fuck?
For lithium or something?
Fuck off.
Or Ukraine sending resources to Ukraine.
What the fuck is our border is our fucking border, and we need to make sure that these people know if they intend to do us harm, we will defend our border.
That's defending America.
That shouldn't even, that's not, that, that should be left, right, up, down, everything.
Anyway, loafers, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Uh, no, I don't really do a lot of shout-outs, but uh, thank you very much for the, for the call-in.
This has been another enjoyable call-in.
tim pool
Right on, thanks for calling in, brother.
All right, next up, we've got I see a letter P, Philly Cheese45.
What's going on?
unidentified
Hey, Walaikum, Assalam, Tim.
Yes.
Good evening, everyone.
Thank you for taking my call.
My question's for the panel.
Really curious to hear since most, if not all of you, have been on the ground during some sort of major political and cultural moments.
Just want to preface this.
So generally, from the left, we've seen the fight being a branding battle where they're trying to influence feels, whereas we see from the right a trend towards facts and logic.
Recently, we've seen left-wing leaders such as Newsome, Warren, AOC, Chuck Schumer, just to name a few.
They're quick to brand things like the government shutdown as the Republicans shutdown, the ballroom construction, this new DOJ settlement or pending settlement as some sort of illegal or authoritarian or corrupt act from the president.
And they don't seem to have any self-awareness of how their own attacks are playing against their prior actions or just a disregard for truth.
So it's a total memory erasure.
There's been no mea culpa from them for COVID, no understanding of modern unilateral left-wing political violence, ultimately culminating in the horrific murder of Charlie Kirk.
And recently, we've been seeing them turn it up to 11 regarding the information warfare campaign.
So getting my question, realizing part of this is their job in a way as politicians, but with the goal of national unity, how does truth and logic win in today's world, specifically in support of an off-ramp from U.S. Civil War 2.0?
Does the right need to stoop to that level?
Or with current power, do we enforce the duties associated with the rights of the First Amendment?
tim pool
Reconstruction.
Trump's got to send in troops to these Democrat rogue jurisdictions and just take over their governments.
Right now, Democrats are creating an ice tracker.
What the fuck?
The Democratic Party is creating a tool by which illegal immigrants and cartels and gang members can evade law enforcement.
Trump should arrest them.
brett dasovic
The only time they ever talk about unity is in their own version of an off-ramp to when their rhetoric gets so hot, then something bad happens and then they have to talk about unity.
They don't actually believe in it as a principle.
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