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Oct. 22, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Portland Police PROTECT Antifa From DHS Arrest, Trump Admin Says SEND IN THE GUARD | Timcast IRL
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In a shocking video posted by Nick Sorter, Antifa, marked by feds for arrest, run behind Portland police, who then explicitly protect them from arrest by the feds.
The feds are actually arguing with Portland police about this.
Things are starting to get crazy.
AAG Harmeet Dillon says this is why Trump needs to send in the National Guard, which is another big story.
The Ninth Circuit has ruled in favor of Trump.
He can deploy the National Guard.
Things are getting pretty spicy, ladies and gentlemen.
The DOJ has referred that No Kings protester for prosecution.
I'm sorry, DHS has referred to the DOJ, the No Kings protester who is screaming for people to buy guns and shoot ICE.
Holy smokes.
We got a story about a U.S. Marshal and an illegal immigrant who were injured and shot in a scuffle.
Things are getting spicy.
And then it's kind of funny.
So Trump's renovating the White House.
I really don't care.
I think it's a minor net positive.
It's great.
It's great that he's doing it, right?
He's building this big, beautiful ballroom for entertaining dignitaries, foreign diplomats, and world leaders.
I think that's something great for the White House to have.
And the left is acting like they're angry about it.
Hillary Clinton is apoplectic, saying, it's not his house.
Numerous presidents have renovated before.
This is not the first time.
It won't be the last.
This is the stupidest thing ever.
They need to be mad at Trump for something.
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We're going to have a great show, but there's a lot to discuss.
Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more is Tony Ortiz.
tony ortiz
Glad to be here again.
Thank you for having me.
I'm the stand-in Mexican, the replacement Mexican.
tim pool
The replacement Mexican.
Yeah, we were without.
tony ortiz
A little bit darker, a little bit browner.
tim pool
Without Nick, we were like, we needed somebody who is still Mexican.
tony ortiz
Because you had the black guy yesterday, and then you had the brown guy today, and then the gay guy later in the week.
tim pool
Do we?
tony ortiz
Tomorrow.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
But tomorrow we do white.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, so we're going in order of, I guess.
tony ortiz
DEI week.
tim pool
Yeah, DEI week.
We got to make sure everything's in order and the skin tone lightens as time goes on.
Nick Fuentes was booked.
And I know a lot of, you know, this is the crazy thing because there's a lot of people that just, no matter what happens, anything, any discussion of Nick is negative or angry.
We had been talking to Nick about coming on IRL and the Culture War.
We wanted to come on earlier.
He couldn't make it.
We booked him.
I said, this is fantastic.
We're finally going to have him on, IRL specifically.
And then I think it was yesterday he said he had a scheduling issue came up, something rather important, and we'll just reschedule.
And we're like, yeah, yeah, no problem.
Like, that was the end of the conversation.
And we're getting people being like, Tim, canceled Nick.
And I'm like, guys, calm down.
elad eliahu
You got the phone call.
That's what happened.
tim pool
We got the phone call.
Do you see Marion Williamson tweeted that, quote unquote, MSNBC got the memo?
And it's like, she deleted it right away because I think, you know, there's an implication there.
But anyway, Elad's hanging out.
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
I'm Elad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
Good to be here.
And it's good to be here with you, Tony.
tony ortiz
Yeah, we were just talking.
The last time we saw each other was at CPAC, what, like three, four years ago?
elad eliahu
It's been a while.
I wanted to say before we get into it that I deeply admire your work, and I feel like your type of journalism, real journalism, where you actually, I don't know, look through people's finances and keep up with the candidates who run within the state is invaluable.
And not enough people on the right are doing that reporting.
And there's a big opportunity for people to do that on the right.
So I commend you for your hard work.
tony ortiz
Appreciate it.
elad eliahu
But enough of that, Phil.
unidentified
Hello, everybody.
phil labonte
My name is Phil Abonte.
I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's a story.
We have this tweet from Harmee Dylan.
She is AAG civil rights at the DOJ serving under Pam Bondi.
She says, this is exactly why the Ninth Circuit just said POTUS can send in the National Guard, incredible fail.
And to which she is referring is this tweet from Nick Sorter.
Breaking Portland police just provided cover to anti-fit terrorists at Ice Portland who were beaming spotlights in DHS agents' eyes and shielding them from DHS.
Portland police are literally aiding a terrorist group.
A DHS agent came out and confronted Portland police, calling them out for allowing terrorists to hide behind them.
She's literally running behind you guys.
Portland police pretended like they saw nothing at all, although they were standing just 15 feet away from the assailants, which DHS had just marked with countless pepper balls, lights, and lasers over the course of several minutes.
I was three times the distance away, and even I saw what was going on.
Shameful.
Something must be done with Portland police now.
Let's roll tape.
You can see for yourself.
You can see they are shooting at an antifa, hiding behind street signs.
The individual shine a high-powered daylight.
unidentified
It's like a daylight flashlight looks like.
tim pool
And then they run for the police.
Anti-Pathos run for cover.
unidentified
They're running for cover behind Portland police.
phil labonte
Oh my God.
You've got to be kidding me.
Light the police up with gas.
tim pool
And then look at this.
From behind the police using the daylight flashlight on the DHS agents from behind the police.
This person did this because now DHS cannot shoot them.
That was the point that the cops are a shield.
unidentified
Nobody told us anything to us.
tim pool
DHS confronts Portland police for covering for Antifa.
unidentified
She's already running behind you.
That's what happened.
We don't know why she's running.
tim pool
Moments before federal agents marked their targets and Portland Police watched it happen.
unidentified
Portland Police lied.
tim pool
Again, they watched federal agents get beamed by Antifa and protected the assailants.
And then they get to leave.
I wouldn't be surprised if these people are working with the police directly and the cops know who they are.
So I'm going to stress for everybody.
We go back years and there was that video where a cop is seen, I think it's in Seattle, and he's like yelling at the protesters, you win, I quit, I'm leaving.
And there's another video where a guy is being attacked by Antifa and the cops jump out of their vehicle and arrest the victim.
It's not the first time it's happened.
It won't be the last.
We saw Nick Sorter, as well as other conservatives who are just on the ground filming, get arrested.
And it's because Portland police are the same as Antifa.
Now, where this goes, your guess is as good as mine, but I think most people are probably looking at, you know, we're asking the obvious question: what happens when a police department is Antifa?
tony ortiz
Do you remember during COVID?
But prior to COVID, people were like, oh, cops are like naturally right-leaning.
There are guys.
And then COVID hit, and who was enforcing all the lockdowns?
Who was arresting everybody?
It was the cops.
At the end of the day, these guys have jobs.
They take direction from the top, whoever the top is, whether it's a lefty or not, and they carry out orders and they want to go home.
They want to pay their bills and they're going to do whatever is told of them.
They're not going to hold honor to anybody.
phil labonte
They would respond to pepper balls just like the protesters or rioters.
tim pool
During maybe five, 10 years ago, the typical mentality of people on the right was back the blue no matter who.
Then they started to discover around the George Floyd riots with COVID that many of these cops are communists.
And I mean that somewhat derisively.
Many of these cops are willing to march in lockstep with communist edict and shut down churches.
And you had one instance where in New Jersey, a woman was forced to close her store by mandate.
And so she started live streaming her store on her phone on Facebook.
Cops showed up and said, stop streaming.
She said, What are you talking about?
I'm not even open.
And they were like, you're trying to sell products.
So it clearly wasn't about COVID lockdown.
It was about shutting down commerce and economics.
And the cops with smiles on their face did it.
You had a Tillis gym.
Local cops from that town were like, nah, we're not going to shut it down.
So they brought in other cops from outside and they said, we'll shut you down.
Then all of a sudden, people started to drop the mentality of back the blue no matter who.
Maybe some cops are bad people.
tony ortiz
Yeah, the back the blue thing, like it's kind of a scam because they lean whatever they want to lean and they take direction from whoever's paying their salary, their payroll.
elad eliahu
There's a serious issue with police departments in our country, mostly in Democrat-leaning states that are refusing to coordinate and cooperate with ICE and DHS agents.
And that makes their jobs more difficult.
So I think that's what we're seeing like a breakdown of because the DHS agents here aren't coordinating with the Portland police on the ground.
They're not able to coordinate who's a threat or not.
And I think a lot of these police departments are under the illusion that these people don't hate them and they just hate the ICE agents.
They need to understand that we're not very far from the defund the police movement and like cops in the KKK are the same thing as far as these leftist protests are concerned.
So we need these police departments to cooperate and help ICE, not kind of be an obstacle in their way.
They're trying to stay in the good graces of what they believe are like leftist activists in the community, but I think they're totally wrong in that belief.
phil labonte
They're going to be hated regardless of what they do to placate the protesters or the rioters because the left hates any type of law enforcement overall, just broadly.
The DHS agents that were up there that were shooting pepper balls at the protesters, they should have continued to shoot the pepper balls when the people went behind the police and said, sorry, guys, we weren't aiming at you.
Those are less than lethal.
They're not going to hurt anybody.
They're not actually going to injure the police.
The police need to do their job.
tim pool
There's no way the local cops were unaware that those shots were happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So when that woman ran towards them, I agree.
The feds should not have stopped any of their enforcement action.
They should have carried on standard enforcement as they normally would.
I understand whether it's cops or anyone else, they're probably going to hold their fire on the pepper balls because they don't want to go after anybody else, right?
They don't want to accidentally hit innocent people.
But that shouldn't mean the Portland police turn this person over right away, grab them and say, hey, you ain't playing this game with us.
Instead, the cops protected her and let her go.
tony ortiz
I mean, you had these, not Portland police, we had police and federal agencies, FBI agents.
Remember, they were like during the Floyd riots, they were taking a knee and all the whole stuff.
And didn't the Trump administration just recently fire a bunch of FBI agents that were doing that?
phil labonte
Good.
tony ortiz
The police do have political lien.
And like you said, they're not all bad, but you got to keep in mind that the police are coming from the communities that they police.
And sometimes they're leftist.
phil labonte
There's one thing that I want to push back on.
The idea that they're not all bad, right?
Like it's fair to say that they're probably not strongly political, but if they're not doing their job, they're a bad cop.
So allowing those people to hide behind them, they're all those people there.
They're bad cops.
They're not doing their job.
They should be helping the federal forces.
They should have wrapped those people up.
So all of those people there, they're all bad cops.
elad eliahu
I believe that.
phil labonte
By bad cop, I don't mean that they're corrupt or they're intentionally aiding as in actively trying to do things to hinder what ICE is doing, but they're not helping ICE.
Therefore, they're bad cops.
elad eliahu
I think they're directed to not coordinate too with ICE, the Portland officers.
tony ortiz
Yeah, and the video comes out and their leadership sees them coordinating with ICE.
They're going to get fired or disciplined for sure.
tim pool
Look, many people kept asking me years ago, how could there possibly be a civil war if there's no factions?
And it's just like, you realize factions are created.
So when you have police, this is, is this, you know, and maybe not, but is this the first time we've seen two different police jurisdictions clash with each other in any meaningful way?
Now, don't get me wrong.
I remember the National Guard and federal law enforcement in Texas.
You had Texas, or I'm sorry.
Yeah, you had Texas State Guard and you had the feds under Biden fighting over the border stuff.
Yeah, the border, the Concertino wire.
In the Trump administration, we now have something similar.
Honestly, anybody in chat, were there any other moments we've seen this in the riots where like two different divisions of police were like at each other at odds with each other like this?
phil labonte
I don't recall ever seeing a local police force actually inhibit federal forces.
tim pool
And aid and abet a criminal to escape?
phil labonte
Yeah, I've never, I've never.
tim pool
This is how you get factions because you have the federal government and the state government and the state government, even the local cops are saying no to the feds as if they are a different body.
It used to be that they were like, we work together.
State law enforcement and federal law enforcement would cooperate on things.
I suppose the worst case scenario was that like in the movies, the feds would come in and be like, step aside, it's our crime scene now.
And they'd be like, you can't take this crime scene from me.
Now it's like, I'm not stepping aside.
Ma'am, you're free to go.
Do something about it.
What's the next phase?
elad eliahu
Those Portland cops looked very satisfied that those Antifa were directing their anger towards the DHS agents and not them.
tim pool
Insurrection Act.
phil labonte
That's literally what is on deck or what the proper course of action by the federal government is.
If the local police are not carrying out the law, if they're not actually behaving in a legal way, then the federal government is empowered to carry out the laws passed by Congress.
tim pool
I'm going to jump to the street from Mr. Andy No.
He says a trans activist in Portland has put a hit list, graphic, a hit list graphic of me and others putting me at the highest threat level and suggesting others take action.
Take a look at this graphic.
What are those red?
tony ortiz
There's red and then what there's yellow, yellow, light, orange, orange, orange, red.
I got a red.
elad eliahu
I wonder who got insulted with the lowest.
tony ortiz
Who got yellow?
Yeah, I want to know who got threat level yellow.
That's your team, buddy.
elad eliahu
You're yellow, yellow type threat level.
tim pool
So there's also this, which appears to be on a light post, and you can see there's Nick Shirley.
Congratulations, Nick.
I can't read the rest of them.
What is that?
I can't read that one.
Thomas Allen, black rebel.
Oh, Cam Higby.
Hey, Cam.
How's it going?
Leftists in these areas are putting up flyers to target people for physical violence, attack, or otherwise.
Portland is in a very, very strange place right now.
There was this Jubilee put out a debate between two leftists and two conservatives.
And one of the debate things, one of the subjects was that Portland is a war zone.
Portland's population has collapsed over the past few years.
People are fleeing Portland because you can't run your business.
And the leftists are elected crime is actually laid down.
And I'm like, I don't care.
If you have 10 Antifa that keep terrorizing the downtown and commerce is down, crime isn't the issue.
So Trump needs to send in the National Guard, invoke the Insurrection Act.
And I honestly think the only way we get out of this is if Trump actually, I don't know.
I think it's Insurrection Act, commandeers the local government and then has new elections and cleans everything up.
tony ortiz
Have we seen that in modern times?
Insurrection Act?
tim pool
Insurrection Act, yes.
LA riots.
These easy example.
We had the National Guard sent in.
I think it was Obama in Ferguson during the Michael Brown riots.
But the bigger question is not so much whether Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act as whether he will go in, remove a mayor and governor from power and their assemblies and their council and say it is time for a new election because this is criminal.
This is corrupt.
That's the only way you get out of it.
What's going to happen?
The feds are going to keep saying don't break the laws and then no one does anything.
elad eliahu
Well, with their sanctuary city policies, yeah, pretty much.
I mean, that's how it's looking.
Like, nobody's going to cooperate.
The local police won't cooperate with you.
You know, they did a raid recently.
DHS did in New York City on Canal Street.
And then I saw almost immediately after the NYPD wanted to make sure, you know, nobody's blaming them for this.
So they sent out a tweet that said the MYPD had no involvement in the federal operation that took place on Canal Street this afternoon.
Like these cops are really trying hard to distance themselves from other law enforcement activity.
They're not going to protect them.
They're not going to collaborate with them.
And if people come and protest and ride against them, you know, they're just going to, I guess, stop them by.
tim pool
I'm over it.
Take them over.
Like, guys, this was what was Sam Hernandez was covering this.
It's like a, what was it, like a black market thing going on?
elad eliahu
On Canal Street in New York City.
Canal Street's notorious for having these fakes being sold on the streets by definitely illegal aliens from God knows where in Africa.
tim pool
And when the feds came and shut it down, local police were sure to tell the world we allow black market illegal immigrant crime to surge and run rampant.
And we are proud of it.
elad eliahu
Yeah, you could sell fake merchandise on the street.
You could sell fake Gucci bags.
tim pool
Trump needs to invoke the Insurrection Act.
I get it.
He's biding his time.
Whatever.
Maybe when winter comes, he'll be a bit more heavy-handed because then you don't get riots in the winter.
And so the concern right now is if Trump makes a bold move like sending in the troops, you will get mass riots.
phil labonte
That would be good.
tim pool
Do it in the winter, nothing happens.
phil labonte
Yeah, that would be nice to see some kind of increase in enforcement because the Antifa people are kind of scared of the cold.
tony ortiz
What's his last term?
He can kind of get away with doing anything, right?
Don't have to worry about running for re-election.
tim pool
Well, actually, he can't get away with anything.
If Trump does not win and he leaves office, the first thing that's going to happen, he's going to get locked up.
He'll be put in prison.
His supporters, his confidants, everybody who's aligned with him knows this.
So there is no question that Trump must crush the multicultural democracy of America.
That's what we call them.
I don't think Democrat accurately reflects what we're talking about.
So I'm going to just use Stephen Marsh's description: the multicultural democracy of America versus the Constitutional Republic of America.
If Trump leaves office and Democrats win, we'll all be in a gulag.
And it's not an exaggeration.
We're well past this point.
I hope people wake up to the fact that they arrested Trump's lawyers.
They hunted down Trump supporters across the country for nonviolent trespassing.
I'm not talking about the writers' agenda.
I'm talking about the trespassing.
People who walked in there had no idea what's going on.
Hunted down.
They created a fake operation accusing prominent media personalities of being involved in a Russian influence scheme, yours truly.
And we know it was fake, fabricated, just to steal an election and malign people.
What do you think they're going to do once they get power if they get power back?
So Trump has no choice but to absolutely crush this rogue element of the United States.
phil labonte
Yeah, they have to do everything they can to prevent the left from having that kind of power again.
And in the hopes that there is a moderate left, but I don't see a moderate left, you know, starting to form.
The Democrats continue to kick out the moderates with Federman.
They're talking about booting Fetterman, all the Democrats that are currently, former Democrats that are currently in the Trump administration that left the Democrat Party.
Like the way that it seems to be going or has been going for the better part of the past 10 years or longer is people that are reasonable in the Democrat Party, as the Democrats get more extreme and more radical, they just leave.
And that's something you see, you know, we hear people talk about, you know, don't leave New York, don't give up New York, don't let the left just take over things.
But that's kind of what's been happening.
People have left the blue states and they've gone to Florida.
They've gone to Texas.
And you leave these kind of Democrat enclaves that are full of people with terrible policies.
And you can't just let the left take the government because when they're in government, they use the IRS.
They use the DHSD.
tim pool
It's just over.
At this point, based on what they've done in the previous administration.
And now Trump's response: if Trump pulls a half measure and loses, we're cooked.
Yeah, I've been having the conversation around security quite a bit.
And I was talking to my wife about this.
I said, there's no running.
There's literally no running.
We're talking about the United States of America.
If it gets taken over by psycho-left e-commies, there's nowhere for you to go.
They're going to come.
They're going to find you.
You will be a dissident of the state.
You'll be an enemy.
They're going to target people of this is what we see in these revolutions.
They go after those who have the ability to rally, who have charisma, who have political leadership, and they remove them from the chessboard.
So there's no running.
There's only winning.
elad eliahu
And you know, if anything ever happened to you, they'd call you a Russian agent after your passing.
That's what they'd say.
tim pool
I mean, they're evil.
The Biden administration fabricated a fake criminal case with two people no one's ever heard of without any real evidence and then used it to hold a press conference accusing me, Benny, Dave, and others of being involved in some kind of Russian disinformation plot, despite the fact Dave being the best example.
He was hosting, was effectively America's funniest home videos.
He was reacting to viral content, did it for a year and stopped.
Nothing was political.
The Culture War podcast that we had licensed was largely apolitical.
Talk about UFOs, flat earth, just goofy subjects.
They faked the whole thing.
And then after they lost the election, they dropped it.
elad eliahu
Not to mention that we love Ukraine and the president should definitely send over some tomahawks to Ukraine.
He's flip-flopped so many times all over on that position.
I'm sorry.
I just feel like I had to bring that part up.
tim pool
Yeah, I just think that now that we have factions, it's happened.
Trump has said Pritzker and Mayor Johnson in Chicago should be in prison.
You've got far leftists in Portland working with the police and the police working with them.
Police and anti-fun Portland are one and the same.
And I don't know what I'm over is this, no, come on.
It's a one-off.
It's nothing.
We've seen enough.
They arrested Nick Sorter when he got attacked.
They arrested, there's another guy who hit that with a rock.
They arrested him too.
The victims are getting arrested and the perpetrators are being protected by the police because the police are antifun.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, it's not new is another thing.
There are people that still deny.
I mean, we've had podcasts where people came on and the whole point was, you know, are the right targeted?
And they would sit there and deny and deny and deny and deny.
But, you know, there's so much evidence so many times that have been documented, whether it be, again, the IRS or you're talking about FEMA when they were deciding not to help Trump supporters in the same way they were helping people that didn't have Trump signs on their front lawn, or you talk about the feds targeting parents that didn't want their kids to be taught certain political ideologies in school and they were monitoring them.
Or you're talking about the federal government going and monitoring people and journalists and stuff.
This is not new.
And it is only going to get worse should the Democrats get into positions of authority.
tim pool
I think it's going to get worse regardless.
They're not in power now and it's getting worse.
And well, the issue is that in the states where they do have power, this is one of the questions I got to ask about Pritzker.
Does he actually care about these issues and side with these people or is he just anti-Trump?
And I'm like, they're the same thing.
He is agreeing with them because it's anti-Trump.
He is supporting them because it's the appropriate political move to make.
Newsom does not care what makes the country better.
He cares what gives him power.
So he's simply being like, I don't care what happens, but it's going to be really funny when the pitchfork mobs turn on snake, sleazy, slick Newsom, and he starts running frantic.
It's like that.
Remember when the riots happened and there's a guy in Beverly Hills who was like, yeah, riot, burn it down.
And he was tweeting this and he was like, hey, wait a minute.
Why are you coming here?
No, go back downtown.
Oh, no, they're climbing the walls.
Get out of here.
Yeah, he loved it when they were burning other people's neighborhoods down.
That's what's going to happen to Newsom and Pritzker.
These people don't get it.
And all of these, these run-of-the-mill lefties, like in Portland, they're all like this woman who got, she was fat.
She eats a lot.
What's going to happen when they can't get food?
They're going to be like, man, this sucks.
The problem is, you ever try to, you guys ever try arguing with someone who's real dumb?
tony ortiz
Every day.
tim pool
It gets frustrating, right?
Because they're too stupid to understand what you're saying.
So it's like yelling at a brick wall.
The problem is when these people start starving and getting angry, instead of recognizing it's their own retardation, they're going to blame you and they're going to go and storm your house, try to steal your food.
unidentified
They're going to be like, food comes from the grocery store and you're stopping it.
tim pool
And we're going to be like, bro, I'm not a farmer.
And they're going to be like, and then they're going to attack you.
tony ortiz
We had this recently.
There's a guy running for office, James Tallarico.
tim pool
The guy who was cheating on his wife who lit herself on fire?
tony ortiz
No, no, this guy is single.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Is he a good guy or a bad guy?
tony ortiz
He's a Democrat.
So he's a hardcore, hard, far and leftist Democrat.
tim pool
Is he a good guy or a bad guy?
tony ortiz
He's a Democrat.
But we have the state fair of Texas, like a big thing, and the prices have gone up dramatically.
I think a turkey leg is like almost $30 now.
And he was blaming the price increase on tariffs.
He was like, oh, Oreo cookies are going up because of tariffs.
These turkey legs are going up.
These drinks at the state fair.
And it's like, where are you importing these turkey legs that tariffs are affecting it?
And it's just like, to your point, it's just all become anti-Trump.
Well, everything is just anti-Trump.
tim pool
Turkeys are from China.
tony ortiz
Right.
tim pool
We don't have turkeys here.
The Pilgrims, when they first came here on the first Thanksgiving, it was the Native Americans had imported turkey from China.
And what we celebrate on Thanksgiving is free trade.
tony ortiz
Yeah, those Chinese turkeys hit different.
tim pool
The Pilgrims were starving because of the tariffs.
And the Native Americans negotiated a free trade agreement and were able to bring turkeys.
That's what he clearly meant.
tony ortiz
But yeah, everything's just anti-Trump.
It's just that there's no other position, just anti-Trump.
Because you don't need any Democrats that are like, you know what?
I don't have a problem with Trump.
I just have a problem with some of these policies.
elad eliahu
Trump is the son of our political, our current political climate.
Everybody just orbits around him.
Everybody does.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, just look at the way people are responding to the beginning of the work on the ballroom at the White House.
They're acting as if Donald Trump is just bulldozing the White House and like he's going to put a new Trump tower there.
Like this thing is going to look like a part of the White House.
The architecture and the structure itself is going to be fitting to, it's going to fit with the rest of the White House.
It's not like this is some kind of terrible, destructive thing.
He's not maliciously destroying stuff, but people are behaving as if it's.
tim pool
Let's pull this up.
We got a story from Daily Mail.
Hillary Clinton melts down over Trump's big, beautiful White House ballroom.
I think they got a picture of it.
And before I show you what, here's the renovations.
They're tearing down portions of it.
And there's more pictures.
I think there's a mock-up online somewhere of what they expect it to look like.
I thought they had it on.
Oh, this looks nice.
elad eliahu
Is that it?
tim pool
No, this is the East Wing.
It's decorated for Christmas last year.
There you go.
These are the designs for the ballroom.
That's incredible.
tony ortiz
It looks better than Obama's library.
Have you seen him?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Obama's library looks like it should be in Star Wars.
tim pool
I don't understand why.
I get it.
I get it.
So when I heard Trump was building a ballroom, I went, oh, because presidents have always renovated the White House.
People don't know this.
Elad knows this.
The White House is actually a complex.
It's not.
You see the picture on the TV and there's like the front of the building.
What is the White House, like 10 times bigger than that or more?
elad eliahu
It's gigantic.
And there's a few different wings to it.
And this is actually long overdue.
A lot of different parts of the White House needs renovations.
I just don't ever think it's politically popular for a president to announce it while he's in office.
It looks like self-serving to like build up his own White House where he's staying.
So I think he's the only president that would be able to do this and deal with the political consequences of it.
tim pool
My point is people need to realize that the White House complex is massive.
And I mean, let me just actually look up how many square feet it is.
How many square feet White House complex?
And so the point is, these liberals, Hillary Clinton comes out and she has this stupid tweet because she's nuts and it's really funny.
And I want to make fun of her.
It's not his house.
It's your house and he's destroying it.
Oh, Hillary.
Are you mad because it's not your house?
Yeah, poor Hillary.
She'll never get to be president.
She's whinging about it.
Many presidents have renovated the house, Taft, FDR.
Trump's putting it a ballroom.
And I think it's very appropriate.
How many square feet White House?
tony ortiz
Laud, what was it before they took it down?
Was it a ballroom?
tim pool
It was East Wing.
phil labonte
It was the East Wing.
tony ortiz
But what was in there?
tim pool
The First Lady's office.
That's what we were showing.
And so he's going to put a ballroom in there.
I think it's fantastic because this means that they can entertain foreign dignitaries, princes, kings, politicians, primitives.
phil labonte
What they've been doing prior to this is they were literally putting up a big tent on the White House grounds.
tony ortiz
So this is a long time.
phil labonte
This is something that's actually necessary.
And at least you listen to some Washington insiders and they talk about the air conditioning in the tent was not particularly good because obviously a tent is not a sealed building.
So it was uncomfortable in the summer.
If they did anything in the winter, it would end up, or in the fall and stuff, sometimes it could be cold and uncomfortable.
So this is something that makes perfect sense for the White House to have functions on the White House grounds.
So that way the Secret Service can make sure that it's secure.
They don't have to go somewhere else.
It's honestly a no-brainer.
And the usual suspects, people like JoJo from Jerse and the Lincoln Project retards, like they're all saying things like, oh, this is so terrible.
And I hate Donald Trump for this and blah, blah, blah.
In 10 years, people are going to look back and they're going to say, that's a great addition.
tim pool
Yes, that's only because the left has to be crushed.
Because if the Democrats win, they're going to bulldoze the ballroom and call it fascist.
tony ortiz
When's it supposed to be?
It's supposed to be done?
tim pool
I don't know for sure.
But I want to say this.
The executive residence is 55,000 square feet, six floors.
And there's plans for an additional 90,000 square foot ballroom.
This is just between that, it's 145,000 square feet.
We don't actually have a full, there's no public information on the full square footage of the White House complex, but it's got to be several hundred thousand square feet, I'd imagine.
It's massive.
I mean, there's offices there.
People work there.
There's a basement.
There's a bowling alley.
Isn't it like a movie theater, too?
elad eliahu
There's a massive complex.
As press, they only let us in, like a small little press area and a small room, but it's a very large compound that they have over there.
It's fascinating, too, because the president isn't only upgrading the White House for future presidents, he's also upgrading Air Force One.
unidentified
Right.
tony ortiz
What's the upgrades on that?
Like what's...
elad eliahu
Oh, well, the plane, they're getting a new plane.
phil labonte
Oh.
I thought that they weren't going to exit from the UAE or was it?
elad eliahu
From Qatar.
They're still accepting it.
phil labonte
They are.
Are they actually going to make that into Air Force One?
elad eliahu
Yeah, allegedly.
phil labonte
I think it's 10.
elad eliahu
Yeah, and the president was really happy about it.
You guys don't remember?
phil labonte
I do remember.
I thought that it was going to not actually happen.
I thought that that plane was going to go to the.
tony ortiz
I thought it was going to be his personal plane or something like that.
elad eliahu
No, he wouldn't be able to accept it as that.
And then I believe he said it was going to be a replacement for Air Force One, which is dilapidated.
I don't know if it's been on that.
phil labonte
I don't know if it's actually dilapidated.
That's a strong one.
elad eliahu
I've heard it's an old plane, especially 47.
phil labonte
It's not a new model.
That's for sure.
tony ortiz
There's a higher chance you'll be on it now.
elad eliahu
You know, I can go on.
It's just extremely expensive.
tony ortiz
Oh, really?
elad eliahu
They make you pay for the first-class price for wherever you go.
And then there's other associated fees and stuff.
tim pool
So the White House itself, not the whole complex, just the building with the East Wing.
The Oval Office is probably like 200,000 square feet with the addition of the ballroom.
It's going to be around there.
So that's going to be actually fairly large.
It may actually be around 200, the whole thing.
But then you've got the attached offices that connect to the buildings as well.
So it's pretty big.
elad eliahu
You know, the Oval Office is actually pretty small when you're in it.
It feels actually very tiny and it looks bigger on TV.
tony ortiz
Photos look pretty cramped, actually.
Because you see all those press like on top of each other.
elad eliahu
I always thought they kind of took wide shots.
And you saw he celebrated Diwali?
Who?
The president did in the Oval Office.
I don't know what the...
I think it's a Hindu holiday.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you enjoy that?
elad eliahu
Well, I don't know what they actually celebrate for Diwali.
Were you there?
No, but I did watch it.
tim pool
Did they give you presents?
elad eliahu
I tried to get in, but they didn't.
Well, no, they shuffle in the people who they allow in for all the press events.
tim pool
Was it here who thought you were Indian?
Sean.
unidentified
Easy reason.
tony ortiz
That guy.
You thought I was Asian.
elad eliahu
I thought you were Asian.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Well, I thought you could have been like a halfy.
It's your eye.
unidentified
No.
elad eliahu
Above you.
tim pool
That's offensive.
It's Hoppa.
elad eliahu
A Hoppa.
Like, your eyelids kind of look similar to Tim's who has the Asian in him.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I think there's a word for it, but it's like double eyelids.
tim pool
Slope?
elad eliahu
Slit.
tim pool
I'm allowed to say that, right?
elad eliahu
Eyelid.
tim pool
Because I'm Asian.
tony ortiz
Yeah, you can do that.
tim pool
That was the offensive term.
unidentified
Is that what it was?
tim pool
What does that mean?
tony ortiz
What?
elad eliahu
Slope.
tony ortiz
Oh, is it?
I think it's a double eye slit or double eyelid.
That's where the people like the Koreans get the slurs.
elad eliahu
You look like you have a hint.
tim pool
It's a racial slur for Asian people, referring to the slanted shape of their eyes.
But I'm Asian.
tony ortiz
So you could say it.
tim pool
I can say that.
That's my word.
elad eliahu
One out of two.
tim pool
You guys can say slope.
elad eliahu
Looks Asian.
Are you Mexican?
tony ortiz
Yeah, Mexican and Spanish.
elad eliahu
You know what I'm talking about.
One out of every so often, you'll come across a Mexican that looks like a Filipino.
tim pool
That's called mestizos, isn't it?
tony ortiz
Yeah, something like that.
I have this 23 in me, right?
And so, like, every once in a while, I get an update.
And like, I just got an update.
Like, I think a month ago, I have a Japanese cousin.
elad eliahu
Okay, there you go.
tim pool
What?
elad eliahu
Yeah, it's not through your wife's side.
tony ortiz
No, not through it.
Through my side.
elad eliahu
Okay, there you go.
So that's where you get that double slit from.
tony ortiz
Something like that.
Double slit.
phil labonte
That's an experiment.
That is not a.
elad eliahu
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Double slit experiments.
tim pool
I'm giving Eli the double slits pass.
He's allowed to say.
Actually, did you guys ever see that college humor thing about mixed race Asians and what you're allowed to say, depending on the amount of Asian you are?
It's really funny.
There's like a guy comes in.
He's like, I'm one eighth Asian.
And they're like, okay, you're allowed to brag about how good at cooking your grandmother was, but not in the presence of people who are more Asian than you.
Like they were giving them rules.
It's really funny.
Yeah.
So I don't know if I have.
So I was doing this shoot for Fusion several years ago on Cop Watch.
And one of the women who was working on Cop Watch was like full Korean or something.
And she was talking about discrimination for being Asian.
And then when I mentioned my family experienced discrimination as well, she immediately started insulting me.
And she was like, you're white.
What do you know?
You have no idea what I'm talking about.
And I was like, my family's mixed race.
And she was like, I don't care.
You're not Asian enough.
You're not Asian enough.
What?
These people are crazy.
phil labonte
Yeah, look.
I mean, you should be able to, honestly, like, you should be able to make all the jokes you want.
They're just jokes.
But I know they are.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
Instagram has just gotten so insane, especially with Sora.
There's a video.
Instagram recommends all this stuff to me because they just do.
And one of them, it's Olympics.
And there's like a bunch of white dudes with like, and it's got American flags by their names.
And they run through what looks like a small, like, it's like an Olympic running track, but there's waterfalls.
And then like some white dudes run through it, and then some black dudes run through it.
And then when the Indians get to it, they stop and they freeze the wall.
Yeah, and for real.
And then the announcers are like, oh, no, they're stuck.
They can't make it through.
And the guy is shaking and scared to do it.
elad eliahu
Damn, on Diwali?
Oh, bro, doing jokes.
On Diwali.
This guy.
tim pool
I'm not making jokes.
I am criticizing the offensive racist Instagram videos.
phil labonte
Okay, yeah.
elad eliahu
On Diwali.
I can't believe Instagram's pushing that trash.
tim pool
Everyone's allowed to make jokes.
It's funny.
I don't care.
They make jokes about white people all the time.
There's really funny ones where it's like morbidly obese white people on rascals are buying Pop-Tarts.
And I'm like, yep, that's America.
And then America.
Yeah, there's a bunch of funny ones.
elad eliahu
The Instagram algorithm's been a little bit racy for me recently.
phil labonte
Remember, it's not racy.
It's not racist.
It's racial.
elad eliahu
I thought they were just feeding me the juice stuff because I'm Jewish.
I thought that's why I just got all the maybe that's what it is.
tim pool
Is it just like your feet is just Fuentes non-stop?
elad eliahu
Well, it's both like stuff in Hebrew and then not even Fuentes stuff.
Just a lot of like George Floyd and Robot and like Charlie.
tony ortiz
Those are pretty funny videos, though.
You know what's Floyd 9000 or whatever?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It's endless on Instagram.
elad eliahu
It's that AI slob.
tony ortiz
My buddy crazy.
My buddy Louis Shanker.
I don't know if you know him.
He sends me a lot of those Floyd 9000 videos.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But now they're putting Charlie Kirk in it.
And now there's videos of like Charlie Kirk and George Floyd like dancing together and stuff.
tony ortiz
Well, they have the same birthday, so that's how that started.
tim pool
It's just intentionally offensive.
tony ortiz
Did you get a Patriot fact check on that?
elad eliahu
No, that sounds like fake news they're using to like make this guy star-crossed.
tim pool
It's true.
tony ortiz
It's real news.
tim pool
Starcross, like the wise.
elad eliahu
Yeah, Serge, can you look that up?
I feel like that's fake news.
Search now.
tim pool
It's October 14th, right?
tony ortiz
Something like this.
It's October something.
It's real news, man.
elad eliahu
You know, all the George Floyd, the pro-George Floyd people are all October 14th.
Damn.
I don't know what that means.
tim pool
I mean, George Floyd was older.
He was 46, you know.
tony ortiz
And he did drugs.
tim pool
He did.
tony ortiz
Yeah, there was that.
tim pool
He chewed on his feet.
elad eliahu
Can you guys really imagine that Santos got pardoned before Derek Chauvin?
It's kind of crazy.
phil labonte
Santos should have never been real.
elad eliahu
Well, he had his sentence communicated or commuted.
Commuted, rather.
tim pool
Well, yeah, why won't it?
I guess, you know, who was it was on the show?
Was it?
It might have been Milo or someone saying, take one for the team.
You can't get pardoned chauvin.
No, it was Gavin.
Was it Gavin McGinnis?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
He was like, knock down a wall, double his cell, bring in some beautiful women for him and say, take one for the team.
You're staying in prison, but we'll make it nice for you.
tony ortiz
They expect one of us in the wreckage.
tim pool
But Jovan was married and his wife left him.
Oh, is that what he said?
tony ortiz
No, no, it's what I'm saying.
tim pool
It's from Dark Knight, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
You had that scene when he's like, no, brother.
They expect one of us at the records.
What was with Tom Hardy's accent in that movie?
phil labonte
That wasn't Tom Hardy.
It wasn't.
tony ortiz
They had to redub the whole thing.
tim pool
I thought he redubbed it.
phil labonte
He did it, and then someone else redubbed it.
Yeah, he didn't think that he sounded tough enough.
tim pool
That didn't sound tough.
phil labonte
Crazy.
tim pool
Sounded like there was a chipmunk with his cheek stuffed with acorns trying to talk to me.
That's the Dark Knight Rises.
tony ortiz
That's a great movie.
tim pool
The Dark Knight I like.
Dark Knight Rises.
tony ortiz
I like the new one with Patterson.
Oh, that was Emo.
Oh, I love Emo Batman.
It's so good.
You're crazy.
tim pool
Emo Batman, who sucks.
tony ortiz
That's good.
No, he's like more of a detective.
He's less like, you know, he's listening.
tim pool
The point of Batman was always that when he became Batman, he is peak human.
That's what his superpower is.
tony ortiz
No, that's Captain America.
tim pool
No, that's Captain America's super soldier.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
Batman's super.
So in the comic book lore, there are many heroes like Green Arrow and Batman, who's in their listed abilities, as written in comics, it's called Peak Pika Human or Peak Venus.
That they are the strongest, fastest, and smartest a human can be.
And so that Batman isn't supposed to screw up and miss his grapple and then fall down.
Like, I don't want to watch that.
Bro, if I want to watch someone flop around and scroll, I'll watch Elad Scoot.
You know what I mean?
When I watch a movie, it's supposed to be magic.
It's supposed to be better than normal.
I don't want to watch failure.
tony ortiz
Like normal.
tim pool
This is woke.
This is woke.
elad eliahu
It's hard being the only person at this company who doesn't skate.
I swear to God, that's the end here.
tony ortiz
I don't skate.
elad eliahu
Well, that's why you don't have to reach out to me.
tim pool
I'm not going to see rips.
unidentified
What?
elad eliahu
That's why we're going to have the reel in here.
No, you shred.
You look like you could.
phil labonte
You play guitar, though.
elad eliahu
Not skateboards.
Rollerblade.
You look like you could be a rollerblader.
I see it.
It's an insult.
phil labonte
I'm done.
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
You know, I want to stress this too before we go to the next segment.
The hero's journey that we often enjoyed, the stories lifted, like showed kids you want to be the best.
You want to be the hero.
You want to overcome.
And when the woke stuff started to become prevalent, it's all now about being a failure, being a loser.
Batman sucks.
They made a movie where Batman sucks.
Like, there's that.
tony ortiz
Emma Patterson?
tim pool
Yeah, the scene where Catwoman says something about the patriarchy or whatever.
tony ortiz
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
He tries to fire the grappling hook and misses and falls down.
tony ortiz
And then he gotten shot by a shotgun like five times.
Out of here.
I don't know.
I like Emo Batman.
tim pool
I like Christian Bale.
His knees bust and he puts a thing on it and goes, he's like, because he's supposed to be bigger.
tony ortiz
He was the best Batman.
I think Christian Bale is the best Batman.
unidentified
Maybe.
phil labonte
He was the best.
Christian Bale was good.
Honestly, I'm a fan of Bad Affleck.
tony ortiz
I didn't like it.
tim pool
Yeah, Bad Affleck was good.
phil labonte
I thought he was really good.
tim pool
He's good.
Speaking of this, let's jump to this next story.
This is from Notthe.
We're going to Canada, everybody.
So strap in.
We had a long way to go.
Canadian city tells disarmed citizenry their homes belong to Native tribes after pivotal court ruling.
Ramifications across the country.
Imagine one day you get a letter in the mail and it says, you are now on Native American land.
We gave it back.
This is what's happening.
Not a joke.
Here's the letter from the city of Richmond.
Here we go.
Please take note that the recent BC Supreme Court decision, Cochan Tribes v.
Canada, made some very important decisions which could negatively affect the title to your property.
A briefing paper prepared by the city of Richmond staff is attached to your reference.
If you look at the draft map attached to the briefing, your property is located within the claim area outlined in green.
For those whose property is in the area outlined in black, the court has declared Aboriginal title to your property, which may compromise the status and validity of your ownership.
This was mandated without any prior notice to the landowners.
The entire area outlined in green is claimed on appeal by the Kawichan First Nations.
Given the serious implications of this court decision and the pending appeal, the city is hosting an information session, blah, blah, blah.
Please call this number.
Well, here's, they got the map in here.
If your property is located within this black area, they just ruled by court order, you are no longer in the United States.
You are now on the land of the Kawhi tribes, and they own your house.
tony ortiz
That's awesome.
tim pool
In the green area, the Kawichan is appealing, saying this whole area belongs to them.
Why?
Because in the 1800s and before, they had what's called the summer village.
The Kawichan natives, in the summer, would come here and fish before leaving.
Therefore, it's their land.
And when the white settlers came and built there, they did it without proper transfer of title.
Therefore, your land is now their land.
Your home is now theirs.
Congratulations.
elad eliahu
It was promised to them 300 years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony ortiz
Uh-huh.
If there's competing tribes, can they like fight each other for this land?
Like, you know, if you have different people, the court should blow an arrow.
Yeah, I want to see that.
tim pool
You know what they used to do?
They would take an arrow and they would roll it in dung.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
And they would chemical warfare.
Exactly.
Because then one hit, you were dead.
Like you hit in the arm, you die.
Just a matter of time.
That's good.
tony ortiz
That's before like antiseptics, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
If that went in you, the infection was unstoppable.
It's crazy.
tony ortiz
Turn to your buddy, like, hey, take a dump on this thing real quick before I shoot it at the white man.
elad eliahu
You.
tim pool
Before you shoot it at the white man.
elad eliahu
So, what did they do here?
They eminent domained it?
tim pool
The natives were like, hey, yo, that's my land.
And the court was like, yes.
Well, hey, look, I said this.
Okay.
King Charles gave Canada back.
Do you remember that?
unidentified
King Charles showed up and he was like, I'd like to acknowledge we are on the unceded lands of the Algonquin Anishibe people.
phil labonte
And it's like unreal.
He gave it back.
tim pool
Real.
You know what I think?
If they do give this to Native Americans and it becomes Native lands, I think the U.S. government should invade it.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Just well, the U.S. government, if that has no claim to it, if that's the way they behave, the U.S. government should just invade Canada and take it and say, you don't care about it.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop, Phil.
They wouldn't be invading Canada.
They would airdrop into the Cowichan tribal lands.
tony ortiz
Look, I've seen these Native Americans.
They're a little on the larger side.
I don't know if they could put up much of a fight.
tim pool
No, not the Canadian ones.
Oh, they're in Canada.
They're all like six foot six and super.
Even the women.
No, I'm kidding.
tony ortiz
Oh, I'm like, oh, damn.
phil labonte
Remember, no voting rights.
We're just taking their property because they obviously can't, they can't defend it.
They don't care about it.
tim pool
Well, listen, listen.
My argument is this.
You got one group of people that said, Yar, we're going to steal your land.
I don't know if that's how they talk.
I just assume that's their accent.
And then the Canadians, the Canadians are like, oh, no, our lands are under attack.
What kind of attack are they bringing?
They've signed pieces of paper.
Run away.
Give the land back.
So, you know, in terms of conquests, this historically may be the like lightest warfare ever.
They showed up and run on a piece of paper.
It's ours.
And the people there went, brat.
phil labonte
Oh, we lose.
They've been disarmed, so they have no ability to defend it.
tim pool
I'm talking about the Canadian government.
If the degree of defense they offer up is, well, you said it's yours.
I guess it is.
Then why can't the U.S. government?
phil labonte
It's, you were mean to me, so you owe me this.
You were mean.
It was literally nagged into giving that project.
tim pool
Well, I mean, no, they used it historically, which means at one point it was their land.
Their argument is, hey, we used to fish here.
That's literally their argument.
My argument is if the Canadian defense of their conquered lands is as if you say it's yours, we'll give it to you.
The U.S. can just call them on the phone and be like, that land's actually ours.
And they'll go, ah, rats.
The Native Canadians, it's a Native Americans, but the Indigenous are going to be like, it's ours.
But the U.S. government can be like, hey, look, been there, done that.
Let's just, let's just move past the part where people get hurt.
I say we take it.
Yeah.
We'll be greeted as liberators by the Canadians.
phil labonte
They just can't vote.
tim pool
I mean, here's the funny thing, actually.
If, like, I know it's never going to happen, and I'm kidding, by the way, but imagine the hypothetical where the U.S. just airdrops troops onto that land.
They then go to the door, knock on the door, and they say, we're American military.
We're giving the option right now.
Swear allegiance to the United States of America, and this will stay your land, and we'll protect it.
Or let the Cowachan take it over.
Which one will they pick?
phil labonte
I don't know.
elad eliahu
Not the Cowachon?
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, what would you rather do?
Let the American military secure your property and let you keep it and live there forever?
Or let the court give your land away, make you homeless, and give it to the indigenous.
phil labonte
I have a feeling that there are, considering the things that I've seen coming out of Canada lately, I think that the Canadians, as long as Trump's the president commanding the military that would be doing the occupation, I think they'd be like, no, we're going to give it back.
We don't want Trump here.
Give our property to them.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
phil labonte
To the natives.
tim pool
This is like a rural, small.
tony ortiz
What are the demographics of this area?
tim pool
That's a good point.
tony ortiz
I want to know the demographics of it.
tim pool
Lands of T Uktinas claim area.
So let me pull this up on the map.
elad eliahu
I think we need to make sure that we are shutting down the drug trade totally from here.
So if we see any boats in this area, we might need to start blasting out.
I'm pretty sure that's where this is heading.
We might need to do regime change over in the lands of Quintus.
tim pool
All right.
elad eliahu
Well, it's like a young black woman's name.
tim pool
Blundell and number six.
tony ortiz
Quisha.
elad eliahu
Right?
tony ortiz
How dare you?
elad eliahu
To Quintas.
tony ortiz
On this holy day of, what is it?
What's the Indian holiday today?
elad eliahu
Diwali.
tony ortiz
Wally.
unidentified
Search.
elad eliahu
Can you look up what we celebrate on Diwali?
tim pool
Oh, hey, this is crazy.
tony ortiz
There's Santa.
tim pool
There's big corporations right here.
tony ortiz
Like, which ones?
tim pool
So there's Western Canada Express trucking company, and there's Container Worlds forwarding services.
There's, what is this?
elad eliahu
There's a Revenge for the Trucker protests.
tim pool
How do we short all these new terminals?
It's like it's shipping.
It's a port where they bring in shipping containers.
tony ortiz
Can we short all these businesses really quick?
tim pool
Yo, what's going to happen is the tribes that get this land are just going to be like, no, no, no, keep doing what you're doing, but pay taxes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony ortiz
Indian tax.
tim pool
Sure.
tony ortiz
40%.
And not the.
tim pool
I don't even know how many houses are actually here, though, because I'm looking at it.
elad eliahu
A nice casino on the river.
tim pool
Blundell is the barrier.
There's like no houses there.
It's a golf course.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
No, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's, that's plenty of houses.
tony ortiz
So they're going to inherit all these businesses.
Dude.
tim pool
That's crazy.
elad eliahu
Damn, I'd have to be like, come and take it.
Come and come and take my home.
You know?
And I tell them to take it.
Look at what happened to the Palestinians when they try to take my home.
tim pool
Bro.
What if it turns out like the people who live there are Jewish?
elad eliahu
No, they're no Jews in Canada.
They probably are.
tony ortiz
Or if they were black?
elad eliahu
No, I don't care.
tony ortiz
Imagine if all these people were black business owners.
Oh, man.
phil labonte
I don't even.
There are very few black people in Canada.
elad eliahu
Really?
I can't believe most of these Canadian stories about Native Americans because a few years ago, there was like some story about how under a school there, there were like dozens of corpses allegedly of Native American children that they were like, that they genocided.
And then it turned out the whole thing turned out to be like a huge, stupid hoax.
Yeah.
tony ortiz
They're going to find out.
elad eliahu
You remember that?
It was.
tony ortiz
No, they're going to find out years from now this permission slip they have for this land is fake.
They're going to be like, oh yeah, we just.
tim pool
They made it up.
tony ortiz
I saw Katie.
You just drafted it in the bathroom real quick.
tim pool
There's like a renovation company.
There's a grocery store.
Is that a grocery store?
tony ortiz
Looks like it.
tim pool
Can I?
What is a tennis court?
Oh, look at this.
Let's go to Canada.
I'm dropping in.
A lot of trees.
I guess all the people who live here now are.
Oh, it's for sale.
Remax.
Well, this is what they want for you here in America.
If the left ever takes over, they're going to take your home from you.
Remember when Ben and Jerry's was like land acknowledgement, the land we're on for our ice cream or whatever.
And it's like, well, give it back.
tony ortiz
Aren't they doing way poorly now?
Ben and Jerry's?
tim pool
I can't.
tony ortiz
Are they?
I forgot.
tim pool
Ben and Jerry's is awful.
phil labonte
I think the ice cream is still doing all right.
elad eliahu
I hate Stephen Colbert.
tim pool
I hate Ben and Jerry's.
I don't believe so.
I believe that I would be willing to bet.
Let me check.
Are Ben and Jerry's sales down?
The reason why soda sales are down, younger people aren't buying trash anymore.
They're taking their health very seriously.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony ortiz
Drinking's down.
Cigarettes are down.
tim pool
Booze, man.
phil labonte
Well, I'm.
tim pool
Sure.
But we used to, so at the old studio, we had this nice bar with expensive booze.
And people would periodically pour like a scotch or something.
And then slowly over time, nobody was drinking it.
In fact, we've been here now.
It's been what, a year and a half at the new studio.
And we still have the bottle of Louie from years ago back at the castle untouched because nobody drinks.
People started coming and they'd be like, no, no, I stopped drinking.
And they just, we stopped buying.
We were like, okay.
We used to, like every four months, we'd go to this liquor store and buy some like low to high end, a few high end and a lot of like mid-tier drinks for people.
Nobody drank.
tony ortiz
Yeah, drinking is more of a social thing.
I think more people prefer like eating good food.
Like if I had to choose between going out for drinks with friends or going out to get like really, really good food, I'm going to choose the food.
elad eliahu
Look, I think it speaks to the company you keep.
And you guys seem like you spend a lot of, you're both married men, not spending a lot of time with degenerates, which is great.
Probably health conscious.
I spent a lot of time in New York City and now I spend a lot of time in DC.
There are a lot of drunk degenerates.
The bars are always full to the brim.
tim pool
Are they liberal?
elad eliahu
I know a lot of people.
No, no, like right-wingers drink.
phil labonte
To some degree, you're right.
A lot.
tim pool
Not the ones that come on this show, to be honest.
phil labonte
To some degree, you're right.
But I spent plenty of time around people that drink plenty of booze in my time, you know, being in a band and touring and stuff.
I mean, there's people that people in my band that, you know, would have a couple once in a while, but essentially they don't really drink.
I haven't had anything considerable to drink in almost 10 years.
tony ortiz
Statistically, drinking is down, though.
tim pool
It is.
I just want to add to for those that now that we're in the middle of the show, for those who saw my tweet where I said I was going to be on the ground in Portland, that's I'm trolling.
And I'm telling you all this now because if anybody, so first, because the left, I know how Twitter works, they're going to start sharing this tweet among all their people.
tony ortiz
You already got a threat level.
tim pool
Right.
And they're going to be like, oh, Tim Poole's going to be here.
Watch out for him.
And they're going to go nuts.
And it's a waste of their time.
However, in the event any one of them is actually watching the show, and then in Portland, they're like, no, no, no, Tim Poole said in his show, he's not coming.
They're going to out themselves if watching Tim Cast IRO.
No, no, I just watch it to know what they're thinking.
So I thought it was funny to tweet.
And there are people that are like, I feel bad because there are people being like, yeah, let's go, Tim.
You can do it.
And I was like, no, I'm not going there.
You're nuts.
elad eliahu
Baiting people with the Portland bait, baiting people with Nick Fuentes.
We're going to have a lot of extra viewers tonight.
tim pool
Yeah, it's funny how the Fuentes thing is so triggering to so many people on the right.
elad eliahu
Well, I think it confirms a lot of people's preconceived notions about getting the phone call and, you know, gatekeeping this show away from other people.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
People on the right are attacking me for booking Nick Fuentes.
elad eliahu
Platforming, so-called.
What do you think of that attack?
tony ortiz
You've always had controversial people on it.
Yeah, it's not new.
elad eliahu
Like, I don't know why people are upset.
tim pool
We've had leftists who have advocated child sex changes on the show.
elad eliahu
I don't think Tim's introducing the idea of Nick to people.
Nick is already mainstream as far as I'm concerned.
People are very well aware of who he is.
And I don't think Tim would be adding much to that by having him on, if anything.
tim pool
Yeah.
The funny thing is, back in the day, we had been talking with when Cassandra was doing booking about having Nick on.
And I was just like, they'll ban the show in two seconds.
So we need to find like, it's got to be something particularly news relevant we can have him on for that makes it harder for them to remove.
And so that was kind of the idea.
And then I guess he got offended by the idea or whatever, because it's like the stupidest thing in the world where it's like, Tim, why don't you burn your show down?
Why don't you like, hey, you should have on someone that YouTube is going to ban your show for?
It's like, why?
We're trying to have the conversation with Nick and we're trying to navigate censorship.
He too is trying to navigate.
I'm trying to figure out how to do it.
So now YouTube's basically lifted all these restrictions and now there's nothing to worry about at all.
So we were like, yeah, Nick, come on the show whenever you want.
We consistently invite crackpot psychopath leftists all the time.
Nick is the least of like, I would actually argue in terms of opinion, Nick is substantially less controversial than any one of these leftists that's arguing children should have sex changes.
And we've had like four or five of these leftists on who are like abortion till nine months.
Like Matt Bender's a good example.
He wants abortion until nine months.
And I'm like, I don't, has Nick said anything anywhere near extreme as that?
He's got bad opinions about, I guess, the Jews.
Is that how you feel, Elon?
elad eliahu
Some bad opinions about the Jews, some racist opinions about the blacks, but I don't think it's extremely like out of the ordinary, especially like in this day and age.
tim pool
But this is what's crazy to me.
And this is an interesting conversation, by the way, that the corporate press for years under the Democrats said it's okay to advocate for abortion to nine months and child sex changes, but being racist is far too extreme.
And my attitude is kind of like, well, being racist, I think is bad.
But if someone sits down and says that they don't want to be around other people because of the way the color of their skin, I say, well, I think it's ignorant, but there's nothing threatening about that.
And then if you get someone on the left saying they want to advocate for a policy where they kidnap children from their homes, bring them to the Pacific Northwest and give them sex changes, I'm like, you're aggressing upon children.
Like one is substantially more extreme than the other.
elad eliahu
I will say this, though.
I don't even really know what Nick actually believes because I feel like every time he says something, it's layered underneath so much irony that like there's no actual real belief or picture idea that changes changes every month.
And then there's like he defends what he says.
tim pool
I think they pull clips out of context from his show and his show is watched by he's got a core audience that is not massively mainstream.
He's getting a lot more attention as of recent.
And because of this, it makes him an easy target for taking clips of him out of context and then installing views for him, which makes it really hard for people to actually know what he thinks.
So the presumptions are that he said things that are very offensive.
There's a viral video on Instagram where he talks about how nobody wants to live near black people and everyone's afraid to say it.
And the funny thing is, he's actually correct.
I've made this point on this show.
I just, I think the issue is he says it a little crudely.
What I've said in the show is during when I worked at Fusion, I knew this lefty.
She was a Latina.
And I was talking to her about, we were working on the Ferguson documentary where he talked about property values, how black people, you know, they get arrested, they go on tour, it's called.
And she said, I knew that she had investment property in New York.
And so she was talking about racism, redlining, blockbusting.
And, you know, she was saying her typical woke stuff.
And I knew she was full of it.
So I said, what would you do if a black family moved next to your investment property?
She's like, I'd sell it.
And she was a Latina, woke liberal working at Fusion.
And I laughed.
And I was like, what?
I was like, this is the test.
What do you mean you'd sell it?
And she goes, the property value will go down.
And I'm like, exactly.
Nick Fuentes says that kind of stuff.
And he says it in a way they say it's offensive and racist or whatever.
But there are a lot of people that have historically and traditionally known this, whether it's because they hate black people or not.
Property values go down.
Dude, I've talked about it all the time on this show.
phil labonte
In 2001, Dr. Dre released a song called Still DRE, and there's a line in it that says, spend time out the hood, take their moms out the hood.
Even Dr. Dre knew getting out of the hood was a good thing.
tim pool
Well, I think the issue is that the issue I take with Nick is when he says, nobody wants to live near black people.
I do believe there are a lot of people of all racial backgrounds, including there are black people who feel this way, like you mentioned with Dr. Dre.
But I feel the issue is the problem with it is that maybe there's some profiling you can do over race, but you go to Hyde Park in Chicago, which is a black neighborhood, and they're all wealthy and rich, and it's very safe.
So the issue isn't inherent to being black.
There's a cultural issue, a poverty issue, gang issue.
You figure out where it stems from.
There are wealthier black neighborhoods.
But here's the issue.
I was like, I understand Nick's point.
If you could go to the average person and read their mind and ask them about what he said, they would agree with what Nick said.
And I'm going to stress this again.
People can pretend not to be racist all they want, but the housing market has shown this historically.
And even Woke Libs agree that there is a fear that when black people move into a neighborhood, property values go down, this is what's called blockbusting.
So y'all figure it out.
But he makes that point.
It goes viral on Instagram.
He's getting a lot more attention for saying stuff like that.
My point is ultimately this.
I don't care if liberals take that out of context.
There is this very strange phenomenon where what Nick said is bannable, persona non grata, shut him down for having said it.
And then a leftist can go on TLC and talk about waking up their son in the middle of night, saying, stick the dilator inside, I'll put the lubricant, do it, or I'll wring your neck.
And that was Jazz Jennings.
And I'm like, Nick Fuentes having naughty opinions doesn't bother anybody.
It might make you go, ooh, I don't like that guy.
Sure, but you're fine in your house ordering your Papa John's and watching football.
What the left is doing, they pass laws where they say if you take a child who's not yours and bring them to California, they won't return the child to their proper family and they will give the child a sex change and sterilize them.
One is infinitely more dangerous, extreme than the other.
That's the weird imbalance in this country.
Maybe it's changing now.
I'll be honest, I'd prefer neither the racism nor the child sex changes.
But again, one is infinitely more extreme than the other.
tony ortiz
I think it is changing.
Didn't like a recent poll show that the whole trans thing is dying out?
Yes.
phil labonte
And it's that's definitely true.
But it's also worth noting in the United States and in the West more broadly, but specifically in the United States, we're one of the least racist societies in human history.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Right.
Like really, really not racist.
So even though contextually, compared to what we were like 20 years ago when race relations were at their essentially the peak and they were at their best, even now where there are people that'll make racial jokes, we're still far less racist than everywhere else in the world.
And so people freak out about things that Nick Fuentes says, but again, that's only because of the context, only because they're here in the U.S. If you look at the way that the rest of the world behaves, things that Nick Fuentes says are not in any way shocking.
It's not a surprise.
Now, whether or not he's actually correct, I'm not.
I'm like, I'm not actually, I mean, there's some things he's right about, some things that he's wrong about, but to discuss race in the way that Nick does, you know, in the context of globally, it's not in any way outside of the norm.
tony ortiz
When I see these leftists constantly complain that America is like really racist and we've got like a racial problem, it just tells me that they don't travel internationally.
tim pool
Oh, man.
tony ortiz
It's a very clear sign they don't travel internationally.
You go to any country, almost any country outside the U.S. and it's incredibly racist.
tim pool
I mean, Korea's great.
tony ortiz
Japan's the same way.
They have restaurants where they literally won't let you in if you're a non-Japanese.
elad eliahu
Were they racist against you on your visit?
phil labonte
I don't want, at least I've been to Japan.
tony ortiz
Why not?
phil labonte
I've been to Japan like.
elad eliahu
You admit it.
phil labonte
I've been to Japan like eight or nine times.
I don't want Japan to change.
Like, I love going to Japan.
It's awesome.
I don't want to see them change anything for me or anyone else.
tim pool
No, they should have more McDonald's and Starbucks and Gucci stores.
phil labonte
I totally disagree.
Japan is awesome the way it is.
And if there are places in Japan that want to say, Phil, you can't come in because you're a white guy, cool.
Because there are other places in Japan that will let me in.
I don't care.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you, in 20 years, your kid's going to be like, I really want to go to Japan.
And they're going to go to Japan.
And you know what they're going to hear when they go to the convenience store?
phil labonte
Hopefully not the call to prayer.
tim pool
They're not.
I was going to make a different joke.
They're not going to hear Konichiwa or Kombanwa.
They're going to hear, thank you for coming to this tool.
phil labonte
They're already seeing that.
Not if they're new.
tony ortiz
They're not having kids.
No, actually, I think, please fact-check me, but I think that they've turned that around.
I think Japan is the leading Asian country that is now seeing a spike in birth.
I could be wrong, but I think that they have turned that around.
tim pool
You know what they need to make?
They need to make a show called Dragon Ball Babies.
And just, it's Goku.
And he just has an epiphany where he's like, I need to have more girls.
tony ortiz
Well, they kind of put out anime that's like more family focused.
I think like Spy Family was one of them.
It's like supposed to inspire people to have kids.
tim pool
2024 was a 5.7% decline from 23.
tony ortiz
Okay.
tim pool
So total fertility rate dropped to 1.15 in 24.
In the first half of 25, the number of births dropped 3.1 from the same period in 24.
tony ortiz
So it's doing worse.
tim pool
Deaths in Japan exceeded births by a large margin.
Population decline continues.
They don't have babies.
elad eliahu
I don't know what kind of propaganda they were telling you in Japan, Tony, but their number.
tony ortiz
I'm here to show Japanese.
tim pool
They started bringing in African and Indian migrants into Japan.
tony ortiz
Well, that might change to his point.
Like they just got their first female prime minister, and she's actually super, super right-wing.
phil labonte
Yeah, and she also likes metal.
She was just on baby metals pod.
tony ortiz
She drove a Supra, I think an old 80s Supra that she restored on her own.
tim pool
Let's start with this story.
Let's roll this.
We got Asian News Network.
Japan and India aim for more than 500,000 people to people exchanges over the next five years.
Tokyo aims to increase exchanges in government, industry, academia, and other sectors, harnessing India's dynamism to fuel Japan's economic growth.
So we've started seeing terrifying stories of women being assaulted in Japan.
And the response is, why did Japan do this?
Why did they decide to start bringing in low-skill people from India and Africa?
What's happening?
elad eliahu
They wanted more people in their country to celebrate Diwali.
tony ortiz
Well, here's a question.
If you had to choose, you bring in either the Mexicans or the Indians, which do you choose?
You have to bring Mexicans, bro.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, I mean, you've had like Carne Asada, bro.
elad eliahu
Don't we have enough Mexicans?
Maybe we could afford a few Indians.
tim pool
Y queso?
elad eliahu
Bro.
We could afford a few Indians.
On Diwali, we're really trashing the Indians like this.
tim pool
First of all, first of all.
elad eliahu
We have so many Mexicans in our country.
Tony's here.
When's the last time we had an Indian?
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
tony ortiz
I want to say this.
tim pool
Chicken tikka masala is not Indian food.
It's Scottish.
It's from Scotland.
Okay.
So when I look at Mexican food, it is like the best food ever.
tony ortiz
It's just tacos, man.
Everything's a taco.
It's just a fried taco or a slightly larger taco.
A burrito is just a slightly larger taco.
tim pool
Burrito is not Mexican food.
tony ortiz
Well, flautas, flautas are flautas or see, I don't need to speak Spanish.
tim pool
No, I'm talking about when you get like mole sauce, you know, chicken with mole, bro.
Come on.
phil labonte
I mean, look, the Mexicans are, you know, mostly of Spanish descent.
So they're, they're essentially European descent.
tony ortiz
So yeah, I would pick the Mexicans too over the Indians.
elad eliahu
Look, if we got to pick which subsect of Indians we get, I'm probably going with the Indians because they have their caste system.
If we get all the Brahmins here, we could get the best of the best in India.
phil labonte
I have no idea.
tim pool
That's literally what the U.S. has been trying to do.
elad eliahu
I feel like all of us are in the middle of the day.
tim pool
And all seriousness in this, let's talk about Japan because Japan's birth rate is basically gone.
You guys said they just brought in some like far-right heavy metal prime minister.
What is she doing and what's going on?
phil labonte
Well, she just, I think, just literally today.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
This morning.
This morning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
tim pool
It's pretty wild.
Where in Japan did you go?
tony ortiz
I went to Tokyo.
Just Tokyo.
tim pool
But like what areas?
unidentified
Shinjuku, Shibuya, Asakusa.
tim pool
Did you go to that five-story sex store that's everyone always talking about?
tony ortiz
No, where's that?
tim pool
I think it's in Shinjuku.
tony ortiz
It's got to be.
elad eliahu
It would be.
tim pool
Shinjuku.
That makes sense.
Yeah, it's like five stories tall.
And did you see how they have, I forgot what area it is.
It's probably Shinjuku, I'm not sure, but they have like gigantic Gokus and like Lupon III.
tony ortiz
I saw some of that.
tim pool
It's wild because people don't understand the way we have celebrities, they have anime characters.
unidentified
Right.
tony ortiz
They're very normal out there.
KFC has like anime.
tim pool
Right.
You'll see, like, you'll see a commercial with Brad Pitt or like Kevin Bacon.
I watched a Kevin Bacon commercial earlier.
I can't remember what he was selling, but I just saw that it was Kevin Bacon.
And they all have Goku.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
And like for those that know Goku, he's Dragon Ball from the 80s.
He's been like a main character in Japan for decades.
They need him to be like, I've decided to have babies, you know, and just start knocking up Chi-Chi and cranking him out.
Chi-Chi's his wife.
elad eliahu
Well, he had three kids, right?
Goku had three, Gohan, Gohan, Go10.
tim pool
No, you had two.
Gohan, Go10.
elad eliahu
Gohan Goten.
Did you go to any of the...
tim pool
And then Gohan had Pan.
elad eliahu
Gohan.
That's what it was.
Did you go to any of the shrines of the war criminals?
tony ortiz
No.
elad eliahu
It's too bad.
I heard there are many.
tim pool
Did you go up to Fukushima?
tony ortiz
No.
tim pool
Fukushima?
Did you get to visit?
Oh, did you have those that have those rice buns for breakfast?
tony ortiz
You're talking about like onigiri?
tim pool
No.
tony ortiz
Rice buns for breakfast.
tim pool
Yeah, it looked like a normal breakfast bun, like you'd eat here where you cut up and put butter on it.
tony ortiz
Okay.
tim pool
But then when you open it, it's like gooey.
tony ortiz
I had fugu.
Was it blowfish?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tony ortiz
I had it twice.
tim pool
What were you doing in Japan?
tony ortiz
Visiting family and friends.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
So you are Japanese?
tony ortiz
Well, my wife is Japanese.
Oh, okay.
I have in-laws.
elad eliahu
So he's a weeb-laws.
tony ortiz
Yeah, I guess I'm a weeaboo.
elad eliahu
I mean, is that what that means?
Japanese love for you?
unidentified
Weyaboo is not.
tony ortiz
No, that's that's like think a guy, a guy who likes like Japanese or Asian women is like a yellow fever type thing, right?
But like a weeaboo is like an anime fan.
Anime person.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Weeaboo.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
So here's an interesting phenomenon we're seeing in the United States that I wonder if, you know, you probably see this in Japan.
People point out, how come there's no McDonald's play places anymore?
Jack Pesobic talks about the death of the family pizza hut, how Pizza Hut is just a strip mall storefront now.
No kids.
Really that obvious.
Pizza Hut made a lot of money when they had a space for families.
People stopped having kids.
There was, I doubt there was ever a point where someone at these businesses said, people aren't having kids anymore, so let's turn our business into a strip mall storefront.
What probably happened was they said, hey, most people are doing delivery now.
They're not coming in.
Shift our business model.
The reason people weren't coming is they don't have kids.
They're hanging out at home.
They order pizza.
Same thing with McDonald's Play Place.
People who are coming in slowly stopped using the Play Place.
And so they were like, we don't even need them anymore.
Nobody wants them.
They didn't consciously say, hey, nobody has kids.
So I'm curious about Japan because their aging population, it's rapid.
And even if they import Indians, what happens next?
They're going to have 20 million Indian children and no Japanese children or almost no Japanese children.
It is pretty crazy that women aren't having babies anymore.
elad eliahu
Tony, what's the attitude towards immigration among Japanese people that you're familiar with, if that's something that you the ones I'm familiar with are not anti-they're anti-immigration.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Despite the low birth rates that are suffering from.
tony ortiz
Because I mean, even as a, as somebody who goes there, it's, you know, I have no claim to Japan, but like the immigrants that are there definitely do ruin, like, I guess, the culture for sure.
The tourists themselves are destroying it, but like it doesn't, there's parts of Japan that don't feel like Japanese because there's so many immigrants there.
And yeah, they don't like it.
I mean, you see it with the change in just the atmosphere, the way they dress, the talking, the crime rate goes up, right?
Like they definitely do bring their problems to Japan.
Japan is so unique.
I mean, one of my favorite things out there is just everybody's just so quiet.
Like you go into a subway or a train and it will be back-to-back covered with people and like you can hear a pin drop in there, right?
Whereas like you go in America and there's five people on the train and four of them are doing crack and there's a Puerto Rican in the corner playing Bluetooth music.
Like you just can't escape it.
And out there, it's just very peaceful.
elad eliahu
I've never been to Japan, but I feel like Americans fetishize the F out of Japan.
Like we really put on rose-tinted glasses.
I don't know if it's a good idea.
tony ortiz
There is a lot of horrible parts about Japanese people.
elad eliahu
We mocked that in World War II and felt bad about it ever since.
tim pool
But most people don't think twice about Japan and don't know anything about it.
elad eliahu
No, I think Hawkins, like.
tim pool
No.
tony ortiz
Well, like the work culture is obviously really horrible.
And that's something my wife talks a lot about because I've joked about wanting to move there because she still has her citizenship there.
And she's like, yeah, absolutely not because the work culture is so freaking bad.
tim pool
You mean like people work too much?
tony ortiz
They work way too much.
And in Japan, they value time, not effort and quality.
Like if you, you can have a lot who will work four hours a day, but he produces insane content that just gets the most views.
And you'll have somebody else who works 12 hours and they will prefer the 12-hour guy, even if he does worst quality work versus the guy that puts it.
tim pool
That's why they don't have kids.
elad eliahu
It's about showing face, right?
tony ortiz
Yeah, showing face.
Like you're supposed to show up early and leave.
tim pool
I got an idea.
should take all of these like neat incel weebs ship them off to Japan and then they'll be happy and then in a hundred years Japan will be colonized by a bunch of appas no No, I was going to say obese neckbeards with fedoras on swinging katanas.
tony ortiz
They're very obvious in Japan because like because in Japan, everybody's really thin.
And then like you see the tourists and they're very obvious because they wear shorts.
In Japan, like people don't wear shorts.
It's actually very weird.
Like you could spot a tourist immediately because they're wearing shorts.
They have a reusable water bottle with them and they're wearing like an anime shirt.
The shorts are a dead giveaway.
tim pool
I love this.
A meme where a fat Japanese guy comes to America and he's wearing like Mickey Mouse ears and a Simpsons t-shirt and like Sonic Hedgehog pants, and he's like running around all excited about American cartoons and people are just like, This guy's weird.
And that's what it's like when these weird anime people go to Japan.
But to be fair, I don't think people realize how popular anime is in Japan.
It is their principal medium.
Like for us, it's movies and we have movie stars.
They have anime characters.
tony ortiz
Yeah, you'll walk into a Wendy's and they'll have like anime all over the place.
And for I think a normal person or an American, they'll just like, this is weird.
tim pool
But for a Japanese, it would be like, imagine if instead of Brad Pitt Everywhere, it was Homer Simpson doing commercials.
unidentified
Right.
tony ortiz
Right.
elad eliahu
So it's like it's an adult thing as well.
It's not just a child.
tony ortiz
Like adults watch anime.
Like I'll meet like 30, 40 year olds that are like, yeah, this is my favorite anime.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
They've started doing live action stuff more now.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
But their principal TV shows, the comedies, and everything are cartoons.
Japanimation.
elad eliahu
Fascinating.
phil labonte
Japanimation.
tim pool
And the weird thing too is they're all, it's all usually starts as like a manga.
So somebody will write a comic, then it'll get picked up by one of the principal magazines.
Then it'll get option for a TV show.
And it's just like, it's kind of weird because of like the anime that I used to watch.
Eventually, I'm just like, okay, I'll just read the manga because the manga's done and the anime isn't.
So you just don't even watch the show anymore.
elad eliahu
This culture that's developing in Japan sounds very soft and effeminate.
I think Japan needs to reinvigorate their old samurai culture, and we really need them to stand up strong against the communist Chinese when they decide to invade Taiwan.
So I can't, we can't have them over there.
I don't know.
I'm getting too excited over anime.
Chinese and Japanese play with their plushies or whatever they're doing.
tony ortiz
The Chinese in Japan are real rough dealing with them.
The Chinese tourists in Japan?
tim pool
Oh, bro.
The Chinese tourists everywhere.
unidentified
It's horrible.
tony ortiz
Yeah, but they're very prevalent in Japan.
Like you just have to deal.
They do this thing.
So like in Japan, they're really big on like queuing lines.
They're very proper about lines.
The Chinese, like you'll be in line to get inside an elevator.
The Chinese person or the tourist will immediately cut everybody and just go in.
Even before the people have exited the elevator, they will butt themselves in.
They're horrible.
tim pool
I think it's a communist thing.
When I was flying to Ukraine for Vice, we flew from the UK to Moscow to Kiev because that was the only flight we could get.
And when I was doing the transferring from Moscow to the flight to Kiev, in the UK, they're like, no, calling group one.
And then group one gets up.
No, call in group two.
Group two gets up.
In Moscow, they were like whatever Russian, blah, blah, blah.
And everyone rushed full speed, shoving each other out of the way, trying to get in.
And then I was like, what the?
So I was like, all right, shoved everyone out of the way, scan my ticket and got on the plane.
And I was like, this is crazy.
tony ortiz
You're seeing that now in American planes, though.
I don't know how often you guys fly.
tim pool
No, I've not.
tony ortiz
I've seen flights, and it's usually Indians.
Sorry, I know it's Diwali, but they'll land and the Indians immediately give up and they just bum rush the front.
Whereas normally, like you get off a plane, everybody gets off in order.
The Indians will just bum rush to the front of the plane.
tim pool
It's kind of when I've been, you know, I used to fly a lot more than I do now, but flying even recently, the lines are still relatively orderly.
No.
Getting on a plane, you can't, you know, they'll kick you out.
I've seen people walk up and they go, no, and they tell them to go back.
tony ortiz
I don't know.
They have this.
tim pool
You have to scan your ticket and the flight end has to let you on the plane.
You can't just walk in.
tony ortiz
Well, they have this scam now, like Southwest.
tim pool
Southwest is different.
Southwest says, sit wherever you can.
tony ortiz
Yeah, but like you can claim that you're like, you can claim that you're handicapped.
You don't have to prove anything.
Anyone can do that.
But yes, right.
And but you're having people do that now and they let them on first.
tim pool
Always.
tony ortiz
So like I flew Southwest here and almost half the plane was these people in these like little shopping cart things, like boarding first.
It was miserable.
tim pool
But anyway, the point is when you say like the Chinese tourists, I think it's born of the communism in the country.
Because my theory is that throughout the past 70 or whatever years of these communist nations, if you were passive, you died.
They were starving to death.
So the people who were willing to rip the food out of your hand and eat it to live ended up surviving.
And the culture they build is, out of my way, I'm taking what I have to take.
So Japan, it's a very honor, honorific society.
They say, stand in line.
And the communist Chinese are like, out of my way, I'm taking what I have to take.
phil labonte
I've been to Russia a couple times to play shows, and I noticed the same kind of phenomenon.
The Russian people kind of behave the same way in the airport.
Like everyone just crams in.
There's not a lot of lines.
tim pool
Because all of the people who are honorable and passive and said, I'll protect my neighbor died and starved to death because of the Soviets.
unidentified
Wow.
tony ortiz
I hadn't thought about it like that.
unidentified
Yep.
elad eliahu
How was TSA on the way here given the government shutdown?
I don't know where things relatively.
tony ortiz
I mean, I have pre-checked, so I just rushed right through.
tim pool
What about returning?
tony ortiz
Oh, you mean, oh, from Japan?
Oh, it was easy.
I have global entry.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tony ortiz
Do a skip.
You scan your face and just, I was a global citizen.
I travel a lot.
I love traveling.
elad eliahu
Well, I'm really trying to wonder about the impact of this government shutdown.
We haven't mentioned it.
I don't think it practically affects people.
We're heading into almost the longest shutdown that we've ever had.
I thought it was going to go for over a month given the incentives.
But if you know, people even like you who are at airports aren't seeing it.
I think the major consequence right now is just that a lot of the military isn't getting paid.
Or DHS, I think agents aren't getting paid.
And a lot of people in our government, but at least not right now.
Average American certainly, I don't believe, even knows that the government is shut down.
phil labonte
No, most people don't.
tony ortiz
No, they don't.
phil labonte
No.
tony ortiz
Absolutely not.
elad eliahu
Because for most people, that doesn't mean anything.
phil labonte
I don't know about most people.
tim pool
I learned that the government was shut down because I was filing an FTC complaint against Liquid Death and came across that the government is shut down.
So it's not currently operating.
But the website, at least.
But it's okay because we're talking, oh, you know, just something that's happening.
elad eliahu
Liquid Death.
That's such a dumb name.
Oh, so edgy.
Liquid Death.
No, but it's really water.
tony ortiz
Well, that's what they that's what they mark it off, being edgy.
Wasn't it like originally?
This is how I remembered it.
elad eliahu
Water is the gift of life.
tony ortiz
You gave up your soul if you drank it.
tim pool
That was one of the campaigns they did.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
This is the funny thing because the Krasenstein, Brian Krasenstein, posted a photo of himself drinking liquid death, which, like, I think any reasonable person can conclude he's doing it because I was beefing with the CEO, which has just turned the beef into a partisan tribal issue, which is generally just bad for any brand, unless you're a media brand in one particular space.
And so it's like the crazy thing about this, I have seen so many messages from conservatives who want to see liquid death fail because they hex their water with a witch doctor and they had some like it's some like witch curse or something they did just tap water so they're like hexing tap water well they're they're the the water is like virginia spring water or something oh and then the water they use for their for their most their soft drinks which is the majority of drinks they make is uh the ceo said it was reverse osmosis
municipal tap water from Los Angeles.
tony ortiz
So they're hexing tap water from LA.
tim pool
But here's the thing is you're seeing all these posts now because of this controversy where conservatives are like, guys, this is a satanic brand promoting witches, witch doctors, demons, and selling your soul.
Don't buy from them.
And my attitude was like, I don't care about any of that.
My concern is that it's a fake environmental claim and the dude's a liar.
And more so, he just won't stop doubling down on it.
But it's turning into a culture war issue because Christian conservatives are like, wait a minute, what do you mean they are satanic and have witches curse their water?
And I'm just like, that has nothing to do with me.
That was never my complaint or arguments.
But you're seeing a bunch of Christian conservatives now be like, we're going to cancel this woke company.
And Brian Krasenstein was like, let's make sure we give him a reason.
Of course.
Posting a picture.
Why would you do that?
tony ortiz
Why would you want like four foot ten Brian Krasenstein promoting your brand?
tim pool
Bro, if I was at a beverage company and the Krasenstein started drinking, I'd be like, oh crap.
So all that's guaranteed to happen is conservatives started attacking the Krasensteins and in turn attacking liquid death as being woke, as bad, as left.
There you go.
I mean, if you want to make your brand political and burn it down like this, but you know, the funny thing is the CEO won't stop tweeting at me because he's got like no media experience and he keeps incriminating himself to the point now where this morning I get a notification that he's tweeting at someone accusing, there's like a prominent, a person with like 15,500
followers was like oh wow you're committing fraud basically so now because the CEO just won't shut up about it he's being accused of committing fraud on his donations and has like a legal response being like no no we've done all the right thing or whatever marketing department disaster your CEO is just a total idiot yeah but I'm I'm curious in this regard because we're so I mean full disclosure we are filing an FTC complaint we already have the draft Complaint done, and uh, we're going after them for misleading claims and a variety of factors.
And this is a government's regulatory body, which means we don't have any costs.
I submit the complaint, and if the FTC agrees, uh, then they file, and then Liquid Death has to go to a legal battle with the U.S. government.
However, what's happened now is there are a bunch of conservatives that are trying to make this into a woke Bud Light scenario because Liquid Death is like satanic.
And the attitude from a lot of people is don't buy their drinks.
They have witches curse their beverage.
You got to push out any cultural references that promote Satanism, even as a joke.
tony ortiz
It's just kind of a pain in the ass to buy canned water.
That's that's that's the thing to me.
It's just a pain in the ass there.
phil labonte
Personally, I like seltzer.
So, you know, you know what?
tony ortiz
Like, you know, you can't like here.
I can drink this water, I can seal it back up.
I can, you know, but with a can't, like, you have to commit to the whole can.
tim pool
Here's here's some more data for you guys.
Did you know that all canned beverages have plastic inside them?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And that plastic liners and cans are more susceptible to heat damage, delineation, which can delamination, I'm sorry, which can result in the plastics going into your food more than a plastic water bottle.
elad eliahu
That's why we have microplastics in our I have so much plastics in my balls that I don't even give a shit anymore.
I follow Brian.
tony ortiz
I follow Brian Johnson.
They're pure guy.
tim pool
Which one?
The liver king guy or the don't die guy?
tony ortiz
No, not the liver, not the fraud guy.
They're both the alien guy.
tim pool
They're kind of alien guy.
Not the liver, not the steroid guy, the alien guy.
tony ortiz
Yeah, not the steroid guy.
tim pool
He was on steroids, right?
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tony ortiz
No, I actually like Brian Johnson only only because he's the alien guy, the guy that doesn't want to die.
tim pool
When we're joking about both of them, you're like, I actually like Brian Johnson.
tony ortiz
I'm like, don't die, Brian Johnson.
Alien Brian Johnson.
He has a documentary on Netflix, but he publishes all his data, and he was talking specifically about the microplastics in his testicles.
And he's said that he's effectively found a way to reduce them.
And it's by using the sauna every day.
He uses the sauna.
tim pool
Oh, so it circulates.
tony ortiz
It actually does flush out the system.
elad eliahu
I feel like that kills your sperm count, too, though.
tony ortiz
Well, yes, you're correct.
And he's talked about this.
He ices his balls when he's in the sauna.
He's got an ice pack on his balls.
He also publishes data on how long his morning foods are and stuff.
The guy's phenomenal.
tim pool
This guy.
phil labonte
I want to know.
tim pool
What age that?
I want to say this.
elad eliahu
His age.
tony ortiz
Yes.
elad eliahu
Isn't he like 50, 60?
tony ortiz
Yeah, but he has high T. That's a sign of a healthy man is you still get morning woods.
elad eliahu
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
I just want to say, I actually am somewhat of a fan of the guy.
tony ortiz
Yeah, he's great.
tim pool
Well, he is a weirdo.
tony ortiz
Well, yeah, but he's great weirdo.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
He reminds me of Ian.
I feel like Ian would ice his balls in the sauna.
tim pool
Ian liked to talk about how his biological age is lower than his actual age.
elad eliahu
He does look very young for me.
tim pool
That's because he locks himself.
He's in his.
So there's two things that benefit Ian's age: no sunlight and caloric deprivation.
That's not a joke.
phil labonte
He doesn't eat, huh?
tim pool
Look at him.
He's a twig.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, how old is he?
About 45.
unidentified
He's 45.
elad eliahu
I thought he was in his 30s when I first met him.
tony ortiz
He still, I think, looks like I wear one of those aura rings and it tells me I'm younger than my biological language is younger.
It says six years younger than that.
phil labonte
What's your biological age?
tony ortiz
It says I'm 33, 33.
So you're actually 40, 40, almost 40.
elad eliahu
I hear Mexicans have a hard wall that once they get past it, they turn into.
tony ortiz
I think that's the women.
elad eliahu
No, oh, just the women?
tony ortiz
They become tortas.
I think it's the tortas.
elad eliahu
Is that a slur?
tony ortiz
Well, I'm brown, so I can say this.
elad eliahu
Oh, okay.
Can I?
tim pool
Yeah.
tony ortiz
I give you the pass.
You can say torto.
tim pool
Well, he could pass for Mexican if he wanted to.
elad eliahu
Do you think so?
tim pool
Yeah.
We were worried about you a lot.
elad eliahu
Do you think so as a Mexican?
tony ortiz
I wouldn't.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Adios Mio.
tony ortiz
You were talking Spanish to me in the thing over there, telling me to plug in stuff into the wall.
Like I was saying.
tim pool
We got really worried that Ilod was going to self-harm when we heard Bolton got indicted.
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
So we were trying to do a I was afraid that you're pissed off.
phil labonte
Seamus saw me in text.
elad eliahu
I was like, this fucking guy's being so fucking cool.
Are you with me?
He's like, hey, are you keeping it up right now?
Hear the John Bolton news?
It's like, fucking Seamus.
Any laws that John Bolton broke, he should be held to the highest standard of the law and be prosecuted to the highest level of the law for anything he for any laws that he did.
tim pool
A lot of you working on a prison break already.
elad eliahu
I suspect that this will eventually be tossed, that this case will be tossed.
Yeah, we'll see, though.
It's actually very reminiscent of the business.
Have you seen that?
Have you seen the classified documents case?
tim pool
No, it's way worse.
elad eliahu
He apparently sharing it with his family members to make money.
tony ortiz
Wasn't he like teasing it too?
He's like, oh, I've got more coming or something to that effect.
tim pool
And it was having third parties leak it or whatever.
I don't know the exercises.
Exercises were something like that.
unidentified
He's cooked.
tony ortiz
He's always cooked.
tim pool
Look, if it's not.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You should be happy about this because that means there's room for a new Bolton.
tony ortiz
Could be you.
tim pool
It could be you.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Like, you're in the White House.
And, you know, you're the press and you see Trump and you say, Mr. President, with John Bolton being indicted, there's now an opening for someone like Bolton.
elad eliahu
You know, it's like, what would John Bolton say in the Oval?
Like, why don't you bomb Venezuela?
Maybe I'll just start telling, like, trying to start tweeting.
tim pool
You need to ask him, Mr. President, now that Bolton's gone, do you need someone to take the fall for being a warmonger?
Because I'm right here, bro.
elad eliahu
You need a war hawk in the Overton window.
tony ortiz
You were talking about how ICE agents are taking tips from right-wing journalists.
You can be like that, but for like war, you can get tips.
elad eliahu
I think there is something to be said, though, about former administration officials being indicted in the new form of the administration.
I also do wonder if the people in the current administration do wonder about their prospects for a criminal prosecution in the future once they leave office.
Tom Homan's wrapped up in this 50K scandal.
You know, they're calling Stephen Miller a fascist and saying that whatever he's directing to happen with ICE and DH justice criminal.
Same with Christine Noam.
So I do think it's fascinating.
I do wonder if any of his cabinet thinks like, oh, maybe I could be thrown under the bus down the line.
tim pool
This is your pitch, bro.
You need to pitch to Trump that you can be the bolt and heel of the administration.
So when Trump is like, we got to bob Venezuela, you say, I got this, Mr. President.
You go on TV and say, I'm bombing Venezuela.
And Trump can go, oh, no, wait, don't do it.
elad eliahu
If he needs somebody to be able to say, like, oh, this madman's whispering in my ear, telling me to bomb you guys.
Like, I don't want to give him what he wants.
Like, I hope you guys can talk me out of it.
tony ortiz
You can't.
elad eliahu
Like, hey, he's saying send tomahawks, Putin.
I don't know.
I'm thinking maybe I should take his advice.
Maybe I should send some tomahawks.
tim pool
Here's the question, though.
Do you think the corporate press is still pro-Israel or are they anti-Israel?
elad eliahu
I don't think there is a monolith when it comes to the so-called corporate.
It used to be all pro-Israel.
Is Al Jazeera corporate media?
tim pool
I'm saying back in the day when you had these principal news brands, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, the one thing they'd all agree on was support for Israel.
Al Jazeera, of course, is rising up relatively.
It's relatively new.
Actually, I don't think we have Al Jazeera America.
They went out of business.
So people in the U.S. get access to Al Jazeera English, which I think is what, like in the UK or something.
But now I'm wondering with the current trends among the left.
Fox News, of course, is still pro-Israel.
They got Mark, was it Mark Levin?
Mark Levin.
But I'd have to imagine MSNBC now has to be anti-Israel.
elad eliahu
There definitely isn't the consensus there that there used to be.
Same with CNN.
Definitely with their new Muslim hosts.
Over at MSNBC, I believe they had Mehdi Hassan for a little bit, and then they also had like, I don't know, his little brother cousin.
phil labonte
If you listen to like Morning Joe, which still styles itself as kind of the inside Washington morning show to watch, generally that's pro-Israel, even though they do have a lot of people that are considerably further left than you would likely hear on Fox News.
But when it comes to like the actual daytime stuff, I think it's probably pretty consistently anti-Israel on MSNBC.
And I imagine that's a similar phenomenon with CNN.
tim pool
We're going to go to your super chats and Rumble Rant.
So smash the like button, share the show with literally everyone, you know.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Of course, the Rumble-only, uncensored portion of the show will be coming up at 10 p.m. at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Make sure to check that out.
Don't miss it.
And you got to join our Discord server at Timcast.com.
Community is our strength.
Unity is our strength.
And they say diversity is our strength.
They mean their strength.
They mean fracturing, dividing, and conquering.
Join the Timcast Discord server because we are working on some pretty big announcements.
We're going to be experimenting this Friday with Timcast IRL.
The plan is to pre-record a little bit earlier in the day because usually the Friday night shows, there's not a whole lot of news as it is, and we generally go conversational.
So we were like, let's do a little bit earlier and bring in the Discord members in the last half an hour instead of the super chats and have them be more involved with the main show that will then premiere at the same time.
We're trying to find ways to keep people more involved and do more community work with the Discord.
So check that out.
We also have a big event coming up at the DC Comedy Loft November 8th.
Get your tickets now.
They are going to disappear fast.
Still preferred seating available, but this is modern dating.
We've got Emily Saves America, Alex Stein, Myron Gaines, Brian Shapiro, and myself.
We've done, this would be, I think, our fourth.
This is our fourth one, right?
And all of them effectively sold out.
So I recommend getting your tickets and showing up.
It's hilarious.
It's good fun.
You, as members of the audience, are invited to join us on the debate stage.
The way it works, we do about a half an hour of general conversation.
Then we invite people who have submitted their point of view on the subject matter, which in this case, it's dating in the modern age.
You come up, you make your point.
You have about a minute at the microphone.
And if your point is well received, you are invited to join the debate for the next five or so minutes.
And if you're really good, you stay up there for longer.
So we consider it to be like Jubilee meets Kill Tony.
And guys, come.
It's a lot of fun.
We do have another one coming up the next week after we had to move it because of No Kings protest.
So check it out.
But for now, let's grab your Rumble Rance.
We got Mason M93.
It says the Clintons stole everything not nailed down from the White House when her husband left office.
Can they literally do nothing but accuse the right of their own crimes?
phil labonte
They stole 190, an estimated $190,000 worth of property from the White House.
And then they are, if I understand correctly, they returned or paid for about $80,000 of it.
So they still.
Pardon me?
tony ortiz
What did they steal?
phil labonte
Dishes, like everything.
tim pool
Monica Lewinsky.
phil labonte
Everything that wasn't nailed down.
elad eliahu
It was taken from her.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony ortiz
God.
elad eliahu
I said Monica Lewinsky's innocence was taken from her.
tim pool
Wasn't she an adult?
elad eliahu
She was a very young adult.
phil labonte
She was an adult.
elad eliahu
She was 20 years old.
She was an intern.
phil labonte
She was an intern.
It was a good thing to do, but I don't play these leftist games.
elad eliahu
And she actually was opportunistically working with the president during shutdown, actually, a government shutdown, where some of the other employees weren't there.
So she had the opportunity to move up the ranks.
phil labonte
She was working with him.
tim pool
I don't play these leftist games of like, oh, the man had power and she didn't.
It's like, bro, people make choices.
elad eliahu
I think there is a little bit of a dynamic.
It's also the president and an intern, but not an illegal.
tim pool
This is leftism stuff, dude, where it's like, I had no choice because my boss told me to do it.
What are you talking about?
You say, I'm leaving.
tony ortiz
I think.
tim pool
But this is the point.
If Bill Clinton grabbed her and threw her down and got on top of her, I'd be like, whoa, man, that's crazy.
He was like, you want to hook up?
And she was like, yeah.
And I'm like, what's the problem?
elad eliahu
When you're that famous, don't do it at work.
tim pool
That's messed up.
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
The idea that people don't have agency is something that the left loves to use.
They love to say that victims are victims because they don't have the ability to stop or they don't have enough agency to say no for themselves.
And you see it, whether it be people that are committing crimes or you see it on an international level with like the Gaza Israel stuff.
Like, well, the people in Gaza, they had to attack Israel.
It wasn't, you know, it's not their fault.
They were being oppressed and blah, blah, blah.
You see that kind of stuff all the time.
And I don't out of hand.
tim pool
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky were both adults.
They consented and they did it at work.
That's the problem.
elad eliahu
I agree.
tim pool
They should both get in trouble.
elad eliahu
It's not illegal, but it probably wasn't untoward for the president to be changing in that type of thing.
tim pool
I was cheating on his wife.
I believe in Hillary.
You know what I mean?
tony ortiz
She used to be attractive when she was hitting.
elad eliahu
I've been trying to tell them this.
And they don't.
tony ortiz
She looks like.
elad eliahu
Can we pull up the old photos with the glasses?
I swear she looks like one of my ex-girlfriends.
tim pool
That is, you are wrong.
elad eliahu
Wait, are we put, let's see what's going on?
tim pool
Let's hold on.
I got to search.
tony ortiz
College, she looked attractive.
She looked like Sabrina Carpenter a little bit when she was younger.
unidentified
No.
tony ortiz
I'm not joking.
unidentified
Definitely.
tony ortiz
The face.
The face.
I don't know about the body.
elad eliahu
100% curls.
phil labonte
I will say nowadays, Monica Lewinsky looks really good.
Yeah, nowadays she does.
tim pool
I'm going to go ahead and say no.
phil labonte
No.
tony ortiz
That's not a great photo.
elad eliahu
With those cheekbones, those high cheekbones.
tony ortiz
That's an older photo.
They're all different photo than the one I saw.
elad eliahu
I think I know what you're talking about.
You know what I'm talking about as well.
tim pool
This one?
elad eliahu
No, with the glasses.
This is too young.
tony ortiz
He's like a high schooler there.
College kid, whatever.
We need a different photo.
tim pool
Oh, I know.
I know it.
Hold on.
There's an adult one.
You're talking about.
unidentified
Here we go.
tim pool
You're talking about this one, a lot.
elad eliahu
That's not bad, man.
That's not bad.
The turtleneck, is it?
tony ortiz
I mean, have you seen the size of an average American woman nowadays?
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Elad's talking about this one.
tony ortiz
That's not.
That's Hillary Clinton.
tim pool
That's Florence Pugh.
unidentified
What?
Who's that?
tony ortiz
I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Oh, wait, hold on.
You're saying she was too young in those.
Okay, here you go, Elad.
elad eliahu
No, this is when she fell off.
tony ortiz
She fell off at like six.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Come on.
unidentified
How many?
tim pool
How many do I got?
Yeah, a young live.
Are you kidding?
elad eliahu
An innocent young Hillary Clinton.
phil labonte
All right.
elad eliahu
Let's get the next super chat.
tony ortiz
Can we?
Yeah.
tim pool
Bro.
I don't think.
I don't think so.
tony ortiz
No, there was at least one time.
elad eliahu
There was a time.
tim pool
Oh, I know which one.
I know which one a lot's talking about.
You guys are talking about this one.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
I'm done screwing with you guys.
I know what photo you're talking about the whole time.
unidentified
Do you?
tony ortiz
Yeah.
tim pool
I do.
tony ortiz
It's another troll photo, isn't it?
Of course.
phil labonte
Yeah.
We'll see.
I don't think that there's actually a time.
elad eliahu
It looks like a nice American woman.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But could you imagine, like, if you went back in time and you met her, she looks like you just.
You ever see Shallow Hell?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Where Jack Black, he only sees what people are really like.
You would see her, but it would look like it would look like this.
You'd like everyone would see this and you would see this.
There's nothing you can do about it.
elad eliahu
I think she looks like a quintessential American woman in that film.
tim pool
She'd be like young.
And here's the thing, too.
Like, she's not yet become the warmongering desperate that Elod is so turned on by.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's really what it is, isn't it?
It's her willingness.
You were like, when she was running for president, she was like, I would create a no-fly zone over Syria, thereby making it almost guaranteed that the U.S. would go to war with Russia.
You were like, now we're talking, baby.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
phil labonte
That gets me hot.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You see, when she says at first, we are going to have a no-fly zone over Syria.
Elod's like, that's what I'm talking about.
Then she's told that would mean war with Russia.
And she goes, I know.
Eli goes, be still my beating heart.
And then when she goes, we came, we saw he died.
Eli goes, oh!
elad eliahu
That was the line.
I really want to get the Warhawks going.
That's the line.
phil labonte
Jesus.
tim pool
All right.
Anyway, let's read more of these chats.
phil labonte
Offensive ETH.
tim pool
ETRD says, I don't believe they are Antifa Tim, not all of them.
They have stand down orders from the mayor and head of the department.
They literally just stood there.
They didn't willfully shield them.
Bad take.
This is what I'm talking about.
Back to the blue, no matter who.
This is this.
What is this?
The conservative back the blue, no matter who.
Like, literally, you have communist cops being like, you're free to go, Antifa woman.
And they're like, nah, but he didn't know.
I'm like, are you kidding, bro?
phil labonte
That's ridiculous.
Totally.
tim pool
The cop literally says the DHS guy, well, we don't know what she's running from.
You didn't see her using daylight flashlights, blasting the cops.
tony ortiz
Why are you standing there then?
If you don't know, if you're not watching what's going on, why you're here?
tim pool
Yeah, why wouldn't you just be like, I'm not involved and walk away?
He obstructed DHS from arresting her, and then she ran away.
The cops protected her.
This is insane that conservatives are like, all cops are always good no matter what.
Back the blue no matter who.
It's the stupidest thing imaginable.
I'm sorry.
It's just insane.
It is.
There are going to be Antifa guys who intentionally get jobs as police officers.
And I will add this to the argument.
You got a good cop.
He's been in the force for 10 years and he's like, I'm going to clean these streets up.
Then they go, oh, hey, Officer Smith, I'd like to introduce you to your new boss, Antifa.
And the Antifa guy goes, I want you to protect terrorists.
And he goes, okay.
Am I supposed to be okay with that?
It's like, but the Antifa is telling him what to do.
I'm like, yeah, so quit.
Dude, the good cops have already quit a long time ago.
We saw it during COVID.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
All right.
KL Tanker says, last night you talked about the Panera lemonade.
It was a lemonade dispenser, but it had a giant sign saying charged lemonade with clean caffeine powered by green coffee extract.
Agreed.
I don't think, what was it like 200 and something milligrams per cup?
tony ortiz
Didn't somebody die from drinking?
tim pool
That's what we're talking about.
tony ortiz
Yeah, that stuff is.
tim pool
So a cup of coffee has around 90 milligrams.
400?
Come on.
Dude, a cup of coffee has around 90.
So I track the total caffeine milligrams in all the drinks that I have when I have coffee in the morning.
Did you know that cold brew, a cup of cold bra is like 300?
Insane.
Yeah.
So I drink like only half of a cup of cold brew because it's insane.
We got these Yerba mates and they have 150.
I track all this stuff.
But if you saw a dispenser that said caffeinated drink and you're thinking it's probably fine and you don't realize there's 400 milligrams of caffeine, that's crazy.
But whatever, man.
I don't know.
elad eliahu
Everything's supersized nowadays.
tim pool
Well, apparently she kept filling it back up and drinking more.
And then she killed herself because she was too much caffeine.
Shannon Walder says Tom Hardy did do the final voice of pain.
His lines were muffled because of the mask.
So he had to go back to do ADR after filming.
He based the voice on a Romanian gypsy he knew.
unidentified
Don't start giving your power off of me.
tim pool
That was terrible.
tony ortiz
No Romanian gypsy sounded like that.
tim pool
But you know, the problem was that the Joker was too good.
It was like the best joker in any Batman media ever.
The fan theories about Dark Knight Joker, like that he was ex-military, that he was the actual good guy.
You guys know that the Joker in Dark Knight was the good guy, right?
tony ortiz
No, that's a wild theory.
tim pool
It's true.
tony ortiz
I love crazy theories like that.
tim pool
It's not crazy.
If you actually watch the movie and then watch Dark Knight Rises, you can see everything Joker did.
What did he do?
He got rid of the mob and he got rid of vigilantism.
He got rid of an emotionally overzealous prosecutor.
He cleaned up Gotham.
Batman flees.
Joker succeeds in most of what he tried to do.
Batman stops him on his last plot.
And then Dark Knight Rises starts.
Batman's retired.
The mafia is gone.
Gotham is clean.
Bane then comes back with the, what you call it, the League of Shadows, saying, no, we're not going to let it go and we're going to blow it up again.
And then Batman comes out of retirement to stop Bane.
unidentified
They expect one of us to be the rubble.
elad eliahu
I haven't seen Batman.
I'm sorry.
phil labonte
I don't see those movies.
They're worth watching.
tim pool
That's why everyone, no one likes you in a lot.
Okay.
Because all men do is talk about Batman all the time.
And you don't.
And so you're.
tony ortiz
This is why you like war.
elad eliahu
No, you're talking about war IRL, not just Batman.
tony ortiz
War IRL, not Batman IRL.
elad eliahu
Well, War IRL is more kind of more fascinating.
tim pool
Batman is the most powerful superhero in all of comic book existence.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Technically, that's not true because there's like Marvel's one above all or whatever.
But in terms of individual superheroes on Earth, or actually in almost every circumstance, the general concept of what Batman is, is that given enough time, he can overcome any time thing.
That's the theory.
It's like Batman is smart enough to overcome any obstacle with enough preparation.
So when they did the Marvel crossover with DC, Batman defeats the Hulk by throwing nerve gas at the Hulk and then striking his solar plexus, forcing Hulk to inhale and then passing out.
So Batman, a regular human with technical ability.
That's why Batman and Iron Man are like my favorite characters because they're just people.
They're just guys.
You know, you got these people like Captain Marvel's the worst, especially in the movie.
She's like, I just have power for no reason.
And shut up.
Batman's a dude who's like, I'm going to train and fight for justice.
elad eliahu
So relatable.
You could be Batman if you work hard enough.
tim pool
Right.
That's the general idea.
Like anyone can be a superhero like Batman.
Iron Man invented stuff, although he's kind of a dick.
That was kind of the point of Iron Man was to create a villain in every way but his deeds.
So he's an alcoholic, womanizing, cussing, billionaire industrialist.
You should hate him, but he's the hero.
So it was like an interesting dichotomy.
phil labonte
He's great.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's read some more.
All right.
Let's see.
Hitler was a vegetarian.
That's interesting.
Says, I work in film.
Gavin's new tax incentive requires us to start every meeting with a landing.
What?
With a land acknowledgement.
And we are required to attach a land acknowledgement to every call sheet.
No way that's true.
phil labonte
No kidding.
tim pool
Someone check that.
tony ortiz
We need a pace.
tim pool
Because it's believable, right?
phil labonte
What's the law?
elad eliahu
That Native American in Hollywood, they have to do land acknowledgement for it.
unidentified
Oh.
tony ortiz
Land acknowledgement.
tim pool
Land acknowledgement.
phil labonte
All right.
elad eliahu
I thought we were done with the land acknowledgement bullshit, frankly.
unidentified
I thought that died along with the king gave the land back.
tim pool
Not in Canada.
I'm not your buddy guy, says civil war.
Who am I to speak out?
Our government is just giving away land to the natives without consent of the landowners.
Kyle says, Liquid Death CEO continues to crash out and it's clearly hurting his brand.
Can we start a campaign to get Spindrift to switch to glass bottles too?
Spindrift is amazing.
I love Spindrift.
And I believe that Spindrift, there's some connection there.
Like, I think maybe that company has an investment in Liquid Death or whatever.
But what I will say, what's really funny about the Liquid Death thing is the CEO won't stop tweeting at me.
Like, it's now days later, and I don't even really care.
So the gist of what happened is after we did the debate, I said into the show, I was like, listen, if you fix your marketing, that's my principal complaint.
I think the drinks are actually great.
Low sugar is good.
Just fix it.
And he said he was going to.
And I said, okay.
And then the issue was that people started posting about the bet he had made on stream where he challenged me.
He claimed he never said 10% on his company's website.
It did.
And I called, I said, gentlemen's bet.
It's 10%.
He goes, a million dollars.
And I was like, are you sure?
Here you go.
And I pulled it up and it says 10%.
It said it for over a year, and there's three years of third-party reporting confirming that his company said 10% of profit per can, which means gross profit.
That's legal.
So he said a million bucks, and then people started posting Tim Poole just won a million dollars.
There was like a trend on X. And so I tweeted out, give the million dollars to Five Gyres, the company you already work with.
I was basically saying, yeah, we're done.
It was basically me closing off the Timpool won a million dollars.
And I was basically saying, we're done with this.
Go do your thing.
I figured saying give a million dollars to the nonprofit you already donate to was basically saying do nothing.
tony ortiz
He doesn't even have to prove it.
tim pool
Yeah, because exactly.
He could have been like, hey, let's go.
Instead, he tweeted at me, how about you issue a public apology to me and my company?
You're only doing this because I fired your skateboard friend.
And then after your apology, if the nonprofit agrees to an extended payment plan, we'll consider it or something like that.
And then I was just like, holy crap, this dude's nuts.
He's like, his ego is bigger than the plastic footprint they produce from their can company.
So I said, okay, go after yourself.
I'll file the FTC complaint myself.
And then what he did was he kept tweeting, increasing the amount of FTC violations that we believe we can present.
It's actually quite insane, the amount of things he keeps saying, which are like, dude, you can't say these things.
And now there's potential defamation because he, like, this dude has, bro, the CEO of Liquid's having a mental breakdown over this.
It's actually, I'm getting kind of nervous over how messed up he is.
At first, it was funny that he was crashing out.
Now I'm genuinely concerned about his potential self-harm.
He went on ChatGPT and he made a fake graph posted through the corporate brand account where he was like, pool boy's so mad because his views are going down.
And then it's just this fake thing that claims from 2012, yes, to 2024, Timcast IRL got 1.1 million views per episode.
And that in 2025, we only get 70,000 views per episode.
And I'm like, you know, the CEO of a beverage company that brought in $333 million last year went on ChatGPT and made a fake graph to try and get at me because he's having a mental breakdown.
And I'm just sitting here being like, listen, bro, I tweeted and I was like, let me get serious, dude.
I'm a troll on X. I just, I say random things.
I just posted a video of Ian Crossland spraying water out of his mouth and blowing up a house like a fire hose.
I'm goofing off.
This is the brand account of a company that has investors like Live Nation, apparently.
I think it's like Live Nation's an investor and a bunch of pro skateboarders.
And this dude fabricated a graph to defame Timcast IRL, exposing him not just to FTC violations, but now potential private litigation.
Why would you do that?
It's just, I'm like, bro, I tweeted at him.
I was like, you need media training.
You're easily baited by troll posts.
And this morning, the dude was tweeting at someone accusing him of fraud.
I'm like, listen, there are people that are like, Tim, you're giving them publicity.
I don't care.
I'm goofing off.
I posted my opinion on X. I don't care if the company makes or breaks or do whatever.
And now, because of his statements, you've got people tweeting at him that he committed fraud with donations and they're having to respond to these allegations.
Bro, you should have just said nothing.
It's pretty messed up.
And we have four or five principal claims against him now because he won't shut up.
Every time he tweets, there's a potential violation that our lawyer, like we're talking with our lawyers and we're like, yo, look what he's saying.
And they're like, wow, he's making the claims like the FTC violations potentially greater.
It's pretty clear, though.
It was funny because I'll just say this when I mentioned to my lawyer, I was like, we have a draft complaint to the FTC because they say death to plastic, but their cancer plastic.
He was like, okay, I'll take a look.
The next thing he said was when he saw the photo of the aluminum can with the metal stripped from it, he like, holy crap.
Because people don't know cans are actually plastic bottles.
So an aluminum can you're drinking out of, it's actually when you strip the metal away, it's a plastic bag.
You're drinking out of a plastic bag.
People don't know that.
Anyway.
elad eliahu
Death to plastic.
This guy sounds like a terrorist.
We need to put him on a watch list.
tim pool
I love plastic.
elad eliahu
I'm pro.
I'm part of big plastic.
I got plastic balls.
I love big plastic.
tony ortiz
You need to go to the sauna.
phil labonte
Thanks for telling me about your balls a lot.
tim pool
Yep.
I will stress this too.
Here's the important thing to understand.
This is not a private action that's being taken with the FTC.
It's like I have no cost on this.
I submit it to the FTC and if the FTC moves forward, it costs me $0.
So the only exposure is on their end.
There's no reason for this to bring this up.
So, I have no problem saying all these things because I'm not in a private litigation.
There's something called the Green Guides in the FTC that specifically regulates environmental claims.
My understanding of it, I could be wrong, but this is my understanding, is that they're trying to prevent people from claiming to be eco-friendly by maligning any other product.
The reason is, you might get someone who says, Don't use brick for your house.
Brick is bad for this reason.
Use hardy board.
And that may not be true.
And then you're using false environmental claims to promote your business.
It's an FTC violation.
The thing about glass bottles is that you can use cork liner and you can make glass bottle products with paper stickers and cork liner that uses zero plastic.
But this dude from Liquid Death keeps making the claim that glass has more plastic, falsely maligning a clean alternative.
Why?
When I asked him on the show, why doesn't you use cork and glass?
He said, it's too expensive.
He's effectively saying we could use plastic-free alternatives, but we lose money.
We lose profit.
It's an insane thing to say.
And the dude keeps digging his grave deeper and deeper.
That's why I keep tweeting at him.
Dude, stop.
Shut up.
But he's like hell-bent on, I guess, sinking the company.
I was actually wondering, like, I wonder if he got bad investors and he's regretting where the company's gone.
So he's intentionally trying to nuke it so that the investors are forced to cancel and pull out and he gets his company back or something.
I don't know.
It just seems insane that a CEO of a company that has revenues of $333 million for 2024 would be doing this degree of like, you know, self-harm.
Let's grab some more.
D3 FEC says, look up the Battle of Athens, Tennessee.
Indeed.
Crazy Larry says, Tim Cast in a AAA video game, NASCAR 25.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Did you guys know that?
Timcast is in NASCAR 25.
elad eliahu
Oh, the NASCAR driver that we sponsor.
tim pool
Cody Dennison, we have the car right there behind me.
That's a people say it's right.
Wait, wait, put it back.
Right there.
That's the Tim.
Wait, Tim Cast car.
That's Ice Age, Magic Gathering, and Fallen Empires.
This is right here the NASCAR model car Cody Dennison gave to me.
We sponsor him, Arco Racing.
And I think he's got a pickup truck as well as a car.
phil labonte
He does.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's in the NASCAR video game.
phil labonte
There's a lot of people.
tim pool
So cool.
I'm eternally grateful.
It's amazing.
Shout out, Cody.
phil labonte
Now, granted, this isn't going to be in the NASCAR video game, but there is a lawnmower that's the Tim Cast lawnmower.
tim pool
It's true, too.
There is a Tim Cast lawnmower racer.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
We can mod the game.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I think, I don't know, is the game out now?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Because we're getting a copy for sure.
We've been talking to Cody about it.
He's been sending me images of it too.
When did it come out?
Coming out November 11th.
Yeah.
Yo, that's crazy.
It's super cool.
I'm a big fan.
You know, like Allison and I were playing poker one day.
This is like, this is before the baby.
And on all the TVs was Arco Racing.
And we're like, holy crap.
Like, we're watching the Tim Cast car on TV.
So cool.
Super cool.
The one free man says, Hillary Clinton claiming it's not his house is rich, considering she had to return a bunch of furniture when she and Bill were evicted from the same house.
tony ortiz
Yep.
tim pool
It's not his house.
She was evicted.
phil labonte
Get out of here.
tim pool
All right.
The Laughing Dead says, shout out to Tony.
He's a good dude.
Won't even take hit piece money.
tony ortiz
Why he was not the amount of, we talked about this in the green room.
Like the amount of people who have offered me money to not run articles is notable.
Notable.
tim pool
This one's funny.
Reggie Dan LZ says, I'm starting to feel like Tim's mad because he didn't know canned goods were lined with plastic.
Yes.
That is quite literally what I said I am mad about.
He adds, or this is over his friend.
Indeed, it is not.
The only reason I didn't go after Liquid Death sooner was because I was friends with Richie, who was on their team.
When they fired him, I said, okay, I don't got to be polite to you guys anymore.
That was basically the gist.
Richie went out of his way every day to make sure that he was promoting Liquid Death.
So I was like, I'm not going to start a big spat and go after Liquid Death.
And I got to be honest, I tweeted one thing and I thought that was it.
Like I tweet at companies all the time.
I tweet things about, you know, Taco Bell and what it does to your gut and the next day.
But I love Taco Bell.
Nobody from Taco Bell attacks me or anything like that.
So when they fired the entire skate team, I was like, there's nothing holding back my concern over what they do.
Coca-Cola doesn't claim to destroy plastic.
Sprite, PepsiCo, they don't say death to plastic.
They don't tell you you're fighting plastic.
They're not trying to mislead you.
And so I am quite literally angry that we spent thousands of dollars on liquid death because I thought aluminum can and death to plastic and infinitely recyclable meant it was a metal can.
Infinitely recyclable is a lie.
It's just not true.
And he said 80% of people are buying for recyclability.
He's lying.
You can't recycle those cans infinitely because they have plastic in them.
You have to burn the plastic off which creates emissions, has to be filtered out and the filters become garbage.
And the cans are only upwards of 70% recycled because you need what's called virgin aluminum for structural integrity of aluminum cans.
So he keeps playing this game where he's trying to insinuate there's no plastic and the cans are infinitely recycled.
And he told me on the show that I said, if I drink this, melt the can down, can it be reformed into a new can?
He said, yes.
That's a lie.
So what I don't like is if he came out and said, I'm sorry, I didn't realize people weren't aware of this.
We thought because they're substantially less plastic, it was better.
I would have been like, I feel you.
Instead, he was like, nope, we're fine.
F you.
Apologize.
And I was like, okay, dude.
But for the rest of you, smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone.
You know, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show.
That'll be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Join the Discord server at Timcast.com.
Tony, do you want to shout anything out?
tony ortiz
Yeah, if you're a Texan and you're listening to this and watching, you need to follow us.
We're like a must-follow for Texans that are into politics.
We're a right-leaning organization just at CurrentRevolt on Twitter, but more preferably currentrevolt.com.
tim pool
Right on.
elad eliahu
Tony, it's been very chill having you on IRL.
I love your journalism, and I would like to see more people in the media space follow your lead.
You're a great inspiration, I hope to me and to many others.
My name is Aladaliyahu, everybody.
I'm a White House correspondent here at Timcast.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
And if you are celebrating Diwali, please have a good Diwali.
phil labonte
You're not just, you're not a White House correspondent.
elad eliahu
You are the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
phil labonte
You need to get the credit for where it's due.
elad eliahu
You're the only one.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
I just did a feature, a new song called Cannibals by a band called Zillion.
You can go to Spotify right now and download it.
Check it out.
I'm really proud of how it came out.
If you want to check out my band, MyBand is All That Remains.
You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
Check this out.
We got Cody Dennison right here.
NASCAR 25 drivers.
There he is, the Timcast car.
News, culture, and politics got a wing on it.
Number nine, fast track racing.
Look at that.
He got sponsored by Reese's.
Are they all sponsored by Reese's?
I think they are.
I think the series is.
Yeah.
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
Yeah, that's interesting, though, because I would rather sponsor Cody directly and have the whole car say Timcast on it.
Look how cool that is.
It's got the wing on it than just have like a tiny little Reese's on every single thing.
Number zero.
That's actually a cool number.
Nate Moeller.
Shout out.
Zero is a great number, huh?
phil labonte
It is.
It's a special number.
tim pool
And how do they pick the numbers?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Performance Cleaners sponsors D.L. Wilson.
He's 60 years old.
tony ortiz
Damn.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I'll actually send a message to Cody and see what he says.
How'd you pick your number, Cody?
elad eliahu
I don't know, dick about NASCAR.
Is this big in the South?
This is a big thing.
tim pool
Bro, it's big everywhere.
elad eliahu
It's big everywhere?
phil labonte
Yeah.
elad eliahu
It doesn't feel like it's big in the Northeast.
phil labonte
There's Loudy in New Hampshire.
That's the Northeast track is Loud, and it's huge.
elad eliahu
I've never been to a race.
Is that what they call it?
phil labonte
Yeah.
elad eliahu
A race.
phil labonte
A race?
tim pool
We need to go to one.
It's like we never travel.
And so we were trying to go to one.
And then Cody hooked up somebody here.
I can't remember who it was.
I don't know, somebody who works with a Kellen or something.
unidentified
They got to hang out in the pit or whatever.
elad eliahu
What are the vibes at these like baseball game?
I don't know.
People getting trashed.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, hot dogs, beer, nachos.
elad eliahu
Yeah, okay.
phil labonte
You might want to bring your protection, maybe.
elad eliahu
Okay.
phil labonte
They're loud.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy.
And where are they going like 200 and something miles an hour?
phil labonte
They can, yeah.
tim pool
It's wild.
And did you ever see like the a guy walk up the brim?
phil labonte
It's crazy.
tim pool
It's like a wall.
phil labonte
The bank is crazy.
Like you see.
elad eliahu
It's angled.
phil labonte
It's very much.
It's like it's over 90 degrees.
It's really, really steep.
Over 90 degrees.
tim pool
So they're going up.
They're going upside down?
elad eliahu
90 degrees.
phil labonte
Oh, I'm sorry.
45.
Yeah, you're right.
My bad.
45 degrees.
It's over 45 degrees.
tim pool
It is possible to go to loop all the way around if they're going fast enough, you know, enough force.
But yeah, I don't.
I think they should.
I think it's time that NASCAR adds looped loops and like corkscrews.
And if you fall, then, well, you know, you went too slow.
phil labonte
So the actual, the different tracks have a different degree.
So it's relatively flat at Martinsville, which is 12 degrees, but then the steepest one is 36 degrees at Talladega Super Speedway.
Wow.
tim pool
I watched a video where a guy was like walking up it.
He's like, people don't realize just how steep it is because when you watch on TV, it just looks kind of flat.
You're making a left turn.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
But are they usually just ovals?
Or are there any with like other for NASCAR?
phil labonte
They're ovals.
Yeah.
Then there are different kinds of races like Formula One or our street style races with lots of turns.
tim pool
I don't get why Cody doesn't just like win all of them.
It's just driving, right?
Driving is easy.
phil labonte
And all he has to do is drive and turn left.
tim pool
It's a passing circle.
phil labonte
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Just put your signal on.
elad eliahu
Is this even a word?
I mean, come on.
How hard could it really be?
I'm teasing.
I'm sure it's very difficult.
tim pool
I don't know what we were supposed to talk about, but I think a lot wanted to just look at pictures of Hillary Clinton again.
elad eliahu
I'm saying she is a prototypical, beautiful American woman in a photo like this.
And I feel like, you know, this is what we need to return to.
This is what the Jews took from you, Tim.
phil labonte
I'm saying you're going to get deported.
tim pool
You talk about this guy, this main Democrat Senate candidate who wore Antifa Super Soldier label on his armor.
elad eliahu
This is the dude with the Nazi tattoo, too.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's got a Nazi.
He's got a Nazi.
elad eliahu
That's the one that's going to be a totem company on the chest.
tim pool
The TotenConf or whatever it's called.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
phil labonte
And he identified it as a Totenkom.
He didn't just say he didn't just say that it was, oh, it's just a skull, blah, blah, blah.
The argument that he makes now is, oh, hold on.
tim pool
So do we like him or not?
phil labonte
No, he's a leftist.
He's a leftist.
tim pool
And he just let it go because he's got a Nazi tattoo and Antifa.
tony ortiz
It's like, he's confused.
elad eliahu
Like, he just let it linger, too.
He wasn't like, oh, man, maybe I should get rid of my Nazi Totenkamp.
tony ortiz
So what happened?
What caused him to go from Nazi to Antifa?
elad eliahu
He said that when he was younger, and I believe in the Queens or in the army, that he was in Croatia somewhere and very drunk and young and then drunkenly got this tattoo that he didn't know what it meant allegedly.
But ever since then, he must have grown to know and chose to not cover it up or get rid of it.
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