Oct. 24, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| The NBA is rigged. | ||
| Is anybody surprised? | ||
| I don't know if the whole thing is rigged, but there's this massive scandal. | ||
| 34 indictments, professional players getting wrapped up in not just rigging games and flubbing the ball, but also mafia-tied illegal poker games. | ||
| And so, you know, we actually, before the show's getting started, I'm like, does anyone here actually know anything about sports? | ||
| Unfortunately, Tate does. | ||
| So he's sitting here and we're going to have it. | ||
| But this is a crazy story. | ||
| Stephen A. Smith says this is Trump's revenge. | ||
| Despite the fact the investigation has been going on for several years and it started during the Biden administration, Democrats are still trying to find a way to make this Trump's fault that professional coaches and NBA players were ripping people off with illegal rigged poker games and rigging actual NBA basketball games. | ||
| Okay, that's how you know people have lost their minds. | ||
| So let's talk about something kind of normal for once, like the NBA being rigged, which I think most people already assumed. | ||
| So we're going to talk about that and a lot more. | ||
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| Oh man, we got a lot more to talk about than just sports because we need to hear the story of this man, George Santos. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Me? | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who is George Santos? | ||
| I guess it's you. | ||
| Can the real George Santos stand up? | ||
| Well, you were in jail. | ||
| You're not in jail anymore. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Thanks to President Trump. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, I think everybody knows who you are, but do they, though? | ||
| Well, then introduce yourself. | ||
| Well, no, it's great to be here with you. | ||
| I was actually listening to you talk about the meat sponsor, and I'm just like, oh, wow. | ||
| Like, this is something I know really well about. | ||
| So I was like, you're ordering meat. | ||
| No, it's just, it's good to be here. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| I'm speechless. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Who is a real George Santos? | ||
| I guess to some Americans, the biggest liar in Congress, which I think is hilarious because that's such a high bar. | ||
| And for me to reach that, I think that is absolutely an award for it. | ||
| Yeah, I should because it would be a fraud of an award because nobody really wants to take it. | ||
| But hey, I'll take the award. | ||
| I like shiny things on my wall. | ||
| But no, look, I just, I think I embodied, unfortunately, the worst way of doing things, which is like fake it till you make it. | ||
| And that's just not something I condone, but I did engage in it. | ||
| A lot would like you would, you would agree with that, right? | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| You did it to the top. | ||
| Yeah, which is you shouldn't, because then I went to prison. | ||
| And, you know, punish out of prison, 84 days in prison really humbles you. | ||
| Like, especially solitary. | ||
| 41 of those in solitary confinement, which you would think in the United States of America, we would have already, you know, stopped doing that and really, really, it's an abominal practice. | ||
| And if they can do it to me, imagine what they can do to like Joe Schmo. | ||
| Like, no, I'm a privileged person, right? | ||
| I know members of Congress. | ||
| I know members of the Trump family. | ||
| And if they can do it to somebody like me who's like, quote, connected, imagine what they do to like random inmates, the torture. | ||
| Like, it's sick. | ||
| Well, it's actually a fascinating story. | ||
| So we'll definitely get into all of that and where you are now. | ||
| So thanks for joining us. | ||
| No, thanks for having me. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| Have so much fun. | ||
| It's going to be great. | ||
| We got a lot hanging out. | ||
| Good evening, everybody. | ||
| I'm Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| Also, I guess Pentagon reporter. | ||
| Santos, thank you. | ||
| Mr. Santos, thank you so much for joining us tonight. | ||
| You have such a fascinating story, and I'm excited to get into it, you know, because I've always been very curious about like who Jews run with in the pen and about the kosher meals over there. | ||
| So I'm excited to get you. | ||
| The kosher meals are actually really good. | ||
| I can imagine. | ||
| We're having some kind of stream error or is that YouTube? | ||
| Just YouTube. | ||
| Just Rumble's fine. | ||
| Yeah, so guys, people complain about YouTube. | ||
| It's YouTube. | ||
| It's not us. | ||
| It is YouTube being down. | ||
| Sorry to interrupt him. | ||
| But if you're watching on YouTube, Rumble's completely normal. | ||
| And on our end, all of our data looks fantastic. | ||
| So I'm assuming YouTube has just had this big outage. | ||
| So rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL. | ||
| But anyway, Mary's hanging out. | ||
| Hi, everyone. | ||
| My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast. | ||
| I am currently enjoying a cup of Mary's Ghost Blend, which is now available at castbrew.com. | ||
| And I am happy to say that I officially have the George Santos endorsement. | ||
| Don't run for office with that endorsement. | ||
| If we restart the YouTube stream, will it just kick back on like normal to those that are watching it? | ||
| Just to like try and see, see. | ||
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I haven't done it before. | |
| Oh, well, let's see what happens. | ||
| So if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see maybe it's going to jump, but clearly it's not working. | ||
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We can do that. | |
| There's some funny business going on. | ||
| Yeah, George comes on, and all of a sudden the YouTube side is just, it's broken. | ||
| I'm telling you, they're not fans. | ||
| And Rumble's totally fun. | ||
| YouTube's been effing up a lot lately. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is weird. | ||
| We're not live on YouTube right now. | ||
| Yeah, I took it down because it was broken. | ||
| And we're trying to put it up, but it's not working. | ||
| I'm showing when I pull up YouTube. | ||
| I rebooted it, so for those that are watching on YouTube, I don't know. | ||
| I'm going to call Shannon's. | ||
| Anyway, Libby's here. | ||
| I'm Libby and I'm here. | ||
| I'm Libby Evans at the Postmillennial. | ||
| Glad to be here with everybody and human events. | ||
| Can't forget human events. | ||
| Glad to be here with everybody. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| And Tate's here, too, because we don't know anything about sports. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I'm a Bread and Circuses enjoyer, I would say. | ||
| Tate Brown here holding it down. | ||
| I am a George Santos nationalist. | ||
| So whatever stunt Google's pulling right now, we're on them. | ||
| We're on their case. | ||
| We know what's going on. | ||
| Restarting it appeared to have worked. | ||
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Sweet. | |
| People are saying it's working again. | ||
| So welcome to the show. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| I guess we're jumping straight to the news, right? | ||
| Here we go from Muta Today. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Guys, I love this story because it combines a ton of what I love. | ||
| Cybersecurity, mafia, dark side, politics, and poker. | ||
| We got it all. | ||
| From Muta Today, NBA gambling scandal live updates. | ||
| Chauncey Billops, how do you pronounce his Terry Rutsier? | ||
| Terry Rogier. | ||
| Rogier. | ||
| I don't even know how to say his name. | ||
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You can say scary. | |
| His nickname is Scary Terry, so you can just call him Scary Terry. | ||
| I guarantee you that the amount of people who know how to say, how do you say his name? | ||
| Rogier. | ||
| Rogier. | ||
| Dude, even the prosecutor couldn't say it. | ||
| But there's tons of people who do, but those people also are going to be like, who's Tim Burchett? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then we here are going to be like, well, of course we know Tim. | ||
| Like we are all in the political space. | ||
| Can you summarize what happened? | ||
| Because you know sports. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, so there's two indictments. | ||
| Obviously, there's the poker side, the illegal poker games, and that's what Chauncey Billips was indicted on. | ||
| They're saying he was the face card. | ||
| That's what they called it in the indictment. | ||
| So he was the celebrity presence at the poker table to draw people into these games. | ||
| And then the other indictment was basically match fixing. | ||
| They were saying with the sports betting that the players were feeding information to bookies or to anybody that would be wanting to place a bet, and they would use that information to their advantage. | ||
| So Terry Rogier was the prominent player named here. | ||
| They're calling him a superstar, which is really a bit of an overstatement. | ||
| He was a backup at the Boston Celtics, started playing really well. | ||
| I think he held down the starting gig for like a year or two, and then he signed a huge contract with the Charlotte Hornets. | ||
| So that's what everyone's kind of scratching their heads here is because he's made about $160 million over his career so far. | ||
| He's only 31, so he's still got four or five years left in the league. | ||
| And so, I mean, that's the big thing everyone's kind of looking at is like, these guys, they're not short on cash. | ||
| So why would they need to go into business presumably with the mob? | ||
| That's what's being, you know, obviously speculated here. | ||
| But yeah, so there's two, there's two prongs to this criminal enterprise that are currently being investigated by the FBI. | ||
| We have that video of Terry Rogier. | ||
| Is that his name is? | ||
| Terry Rogier, yeah. | ||
| Rogier. | ||
| Oh, is this right here? | ||
| No, wait, that's not it. | ||
| And it's absolutely hilarious. | ||
| I'm pulling it up right now. | ||
| And this guy's in one game. | ||
| Anybody who doesn't play basketball. | ||
| Let me start this over. | ||
| Just watch. | ||
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That was the most obvious. | |
| Rozier I don't play basketball But that's really bad This is like But in your volleyball experience. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no. | ||
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Yeah, no. | |
| Like, yeah, that's really bad. | ||
| But I can play volleyball better if they play that. | ||
| Okay, so it's the second one. | ||
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This one right here. | |
| This is the most obvious because he starts running the other way as soon as he throws the ball. | ||
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Like, what was he doing? | |
| What was he doing? | ||
| What was he trying to fake? | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| I mean, look, I held down the backup point guard position for, I don't want to say the team, and I had never made mistakes like that. | ||
| And this was, you know, varsity basketball. | ||
| We're not talking a high level. | ||
| This is what you see at a lifetime fitness at like 6 p.m., like a drunk, like a drunk guy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's going through a divorce. | ||
| You know, it's not good for one lifetime. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, lifetime's a great institution. | ||
| Lifetime's a great institution, but you're not going to get the most high-quality basketball there. | ||
| This guy, you know, he's going through like a divorce or something. | ||
| That's the kind of pass he throws. | ||
| You don't expect that pass from the starting point guard of the Miami Heat. | ||
| Three times in one game. | ||
| What? | ||
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Right. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm surprised this stuff isn't more common, frankly. | ||
| Well, there's been other players that have been speculated because they just have abhorrent games out of nowhere. | ||
| They're making very sloppy mistakes. | ||
| Malik Beasley is this famous example that people look into and they say he was throwing matches. | ||
| Terry Rogier, if you go back, there's people that were tweeting after this game specifically saying like, holy crap, dude, if you're going to match fix, you need to make it a little less obvious. | ||
| Yeah, there are viral tweets where people are saying they need to also investigate. | ||
| A ton of other people ended up getting dictated as well. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, they have that issue in soccer a lot, right? | ||
| Soccer players throw games all the time. | ||
| Brazil. | ||
| They throw themselves on the ground. | ||
| I mean, they're great actors. | ||
| The thing about soccer today, it's like you'll see like Neymar in Brazil, number one offender of like acting. | ||
| You'll see like a kick go near him. | ||
| He takes the advantage, throws himself on the floor. | ||
| Then you'll have that slow motion zoom in every angle possible. | ||
| And he's like a foot away from the kick, but he's still on the floor rolling. | ||
| Like, did a phantom kick? | ||
| Like, dude, it's like they throw themselves like they fake injure to get out of the game. | ||
| And I don't understand how they let him get away with it. | ||
| And he makes $400 million. | ||
| $400. | ||
| That's his contract. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| For how many years, though? | ||
| I think it's like whenever they sign and buy these soccer players, they're traded for a lot more money than NBA players. | ||
| Yeah, because in America. | ||
| One year at 400 million. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| American athletes. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| One year, 400. | ||
| I'm not going to put money on one year, but contracts are insane. | ||
| That's more than the GDP of several small island nations. | ||
| Very true. | ||
| Haiti who? | ||
| Well, I think I might be worth more. | ||
| You can probably feed Haiti. | ||
| Actually feed Haiti. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Not like the Clintons fed Haiti. | ||
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No. | |
| I can throw some mud and some wheat together. | ||
| I can make it happen. | ||
| I can make some cookies for you. | ||
| But the most egregious, the most egregious indictment was John C. Porter, who was actually banned from the NBA. | ||
| He played for the Toronto Raptors. | ||
| And they busted him because he, I guess, tipped off the bookies that he was going to be injured for the game. | ||
| And someone put an $800,000 bet down. | ||
| He's going to be out for the game. | ||
| And it's just one of those things. | ||
| It's like, look, I know NBA players aren't known for their financial wisdom. | ||
| They're not really tuning into Dave Ramsey, but like 800K. | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| Well, there was, wasn't it, they said one of the best players for LA sent a text to another person saying, hey, one of our players is injured. | ||
| Go bet on the other team. | ||
| Yeah, it was, I think it was on the Cavs. | ||
| There was a player who was saying, hey, LeBron's going to be injured. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, of course, LeBron is like, thanks a lot. | ||
| Now I'm in, now my name's everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, who knows what's going on? | ||
| But imagine you're saying, hey, go bet on the other team because we're down, you know, LeBron. | ||
| Yeah, well, because Pete Rose went down because he was betting on himself. | ||
| Last time I checked, every teacher told me to bet on myself. | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem. | ||
| Hey, I bet on myself. | ||
| It's not a good idea. | ||
| Pete Rose never bet on himself to lose. | ||
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Right. | |
| These guys are betting on themselves to lose. | ||
| And that's really unconscionable. | ||
| I think Pete Rose loved the game. | ||
| Yeah, wait, wait, you're not allowed to bet on yourself to win? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, you're not allowed to bet on yourself to win at all. | ||
| Weren't you saying all that? | ||
| I rigged the game by winning it. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're not supposed to be. | ||
| You're not supposed to be betting at all if you're a player. | ||
| It's true, but I shouldn't be betting at all. | ||
| Let's just stop there. | ||
| I wish Polymark would have had open Will Jordanos get expelled market at the time. | ||
| I would have bet on yes. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, hold on. | ||
| Are there any rules against that for Polymarket? | ||
| I think this guy kids. | ||
| Do you really think I cared at that point? | ||
| I was getting fired. | ||
| I did care once upon a time. | ||
| I think it was crazy, though, because Mike Johnson told everyone to bet their conscience, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| Which I literally at their conscience? | ||
| No, not bet. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Which I really had issues with those words because I called him. | ||
| I'm like, okay, I just voted my conscience and rally, helping rally the caucus to make you speaker. | ||
| And that's how you like, I talk about this a lot. | ||
| I love Matt Gates, and he was so giddy about firing the speaker at the time, McCarthy. | ||
| I could tell. | ||
| And I looked at him that night because we left and went to my office. | ||
| And I said, you know, I'm glad you're happy you accomplished what you sought out to do, but you do know I'm getting fired next. | ||
| So to me, I wish we would have been speakerless a little longer so I could make my one year mark. | ||
| But it is what it is. | ||
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure like every major sport is rigged. | ||
| Isn't the NFL rigged? | ||
| Remember, it was a couple of years ago. | ||
| You guys know better than me because I'm not a sports ball guy. | ||
| But Ravens, it was the Ravens versus some other team. | ||
| And there were a bunch of videos going viral of like the guys were intentionally not tackling the team's quarterback and stuff. | ||
| Well, at the expense of getting canceled forever. | ||
| I mean, that explains four Super Bowls for the Buffaloes, right? | ||
| For the Bills. | ||
| I mean, in a row and not winning. | ||
| I'll just look at Tay because I don't even know what those words mean. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| Like, you know, you know how the losing team, they have all their Super Bowl winner championship merch already printed so they can be ready to go. | ||
| Well, the Bills lost like four Super Bowls in the 90s in a row. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like, I think kids in Africa probably think the Bills are like a dynasty. | ||
| Oh, these guys are good. | ||
| Or Mexico, like, you know, campaign merch goes to Mexico. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| That's why you see like all these Obama t-shirts and were coming up. | ||
| Remember when Laura Loomer did it? | ||
| Like, you're wearing Obama merch. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, because that's where it's totally. | ||
| America loves female presidents. | ||
| To be fair, they did have shirts that said, Biden, please let us in, though. | ||
| That was a viral thing they were doing. | ||
| Well, that was just organized NGOs funding that, just, you know, just to, I guess, troll us at that point. | ||
| They also had thank you Biden shirts. | ||
| They did. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those were NGOs funding that with some of the USAID. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you know, it almost feels like it's pro-Trump. | ||
| Like, let's get a bunch of people, people, like photos of illegal immigrants saying thank you, Biden. | ||
| I mean, it worked, didn't it? | ||
| It really hurt his campaign. | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
| This was in 2020. | ||
| This was 2020. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| I guess it worked for him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, everything's fake. | ||
| Can we just, can we just all agree everything's fake and gay? | ||
| It certainly feels, you know, there's been in America, there's been this sort of reorientation of the American sports fan towards college sports. | ||
| And I think it's because they view it as like a more raw, purified version of sport. | ||
| Because at the pro level, there's just so much shenanigans going. | ||
| Even there's like been scandals with refs where, for example, in soccer, the refs are actually typically the ones getting busted for match fixing. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And even in American sports, there's been a few probes into various refs and the NBA specifically. | ||
| Weird thought. | ||
| FIFA has a lot of issues with refs that get paid to call the worst, the worst freaking FIFA wouldn't take a bribe. | ||
| I think baseball is fixed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because we went and saw the Nats versus the Sox, and there were several blatantly bad calls by the ump that everyone was confused by, and everyone's booing. | ||
| And I'm just sitting there thinking, like, look, if you want to maximize the amount of games you play to sell more tickets, to sell more hot dogs, you need to control the outcome of the game. | ||
| And there's tens of millions and hundreds of millions of dollars on the line for a lot of these games. | ||
| Why wouldn't they just say, hey, just let them win this one, you know, however you can. | ||
| And you can't absolutely control the outcome, but you can change the direction of your sales, as it were. | ||
| I mean, the umps are not the funnest people. | ||
| And have you seen a little league game? | ||
| They make the worst calls. | ||
| It's like that type of phenotype either becomes Little League ump or like HOA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like one of those. | |
| That's how it always goes. | ||
| Another thing you can do. | ||
| That's the male care inversion in suburban America. | ||
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It's very true. | |
| Another thing you'll notice in the NBA specifically is the players are very well aware of the money line. | ||
| So when they're coming down to the wire, typically if you're down like six or eight points, you're going to be shooting because you're like, I don't know, maybe we hit two or three threes back to back with 10 seconds to go, like Reggie Miller's done it before. | ||
| But now, if they're right at the money line, right under the money line, they will not take any shots in the last like 30 seconds because they don't want to tick over and ruin bets or presumably their friends. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's to be the most crucial. | ||
| And this is like pretty wide in the open. | ||
| So let's jump to this story from Tim Cast News. | ||
| Trump is coming. | ||
| Stephen A. Smith suggests today's FBI press conference announcing widespread arrests amid their investigation into illegal gambling was politically motivated and timed to negatively impact the NBA. | ||
| Because we all know Trump's biggest enemy and rival this whole time has been the NBA, I guess. | ||
| But the Democrats are always going to find some reason to make it about Trump. | ||
| How many times for one incident after another have I said Trump is coming? | ||
| He's coming. | ||
| We'll see it on national television. | ||
| Bad Bunny is performing at the Super Bowl and all of a sudden you're hearing ICE is going to be there. | ||
| Looking to engage in mass deportations. | ||
| The Super Bowl disrupting things. | ||
| Big night for the NBA when Bianca put on a show. | ||
| That has now been smeared because we're talking about this story. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Remember, Trump has a long, long history connected to the world of sports because he had those casinos. | ||
| Where do you think folks will come in after time? | ||
| I'm not talking about individuals. | ||
| I'm talking about the culture. | ||
| When people want to go to a casino, when people want to gamble, when people want to party, whatever the case may be, this was his kind of connection to that. | ||
| Why am I glad you're here, Monica? | ||
| Because don't be surprised if the WNBA is next on his list. | ||
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Because when you've got all of these protests that have been going out, okay, okay. | |
| 20 bucks. | ||
| This is where Stephen A. Smith jumps the shark. | ||
| He was viewed by many as a moderate Democrat personality. | ||
| Maybe he could fix the orientation of the Democratic Party. | ||
| But now he's doing exactly what everyone expects of Democrats. | ||
| A bad thing happened. | ||
| Trump did it, I guess. | ||
| They're just beyond rescue at this point. | ||
| I mean, the Democrats are beyond rescue. | ||
| If you think this idiot's going to rescue the Democrat Party, good. | ||
| It's like, please put all your chips on this idiot who's a tool. | ||
| And Trump's coming. | ||
| Like, I almost feel like, you better watch out. | ||
| You better not shout. | ||
| Like, what the hell? | ||
| He's literally the boogeyman to them. | ||
| But what they totally find. | ||
| Sorry, I stubbed my toe earlier and it was Trump. | ||
| I'm sure it was Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It was Trump because it rhymes with bump and you stubbed your toe. | ||
| I was watching. | ||
| I wasn't paying attention to where I was going because I was watching a video of Trump. | ||
| It made me so angry. | ||
| I stubbed my toe. | ||
| Well, the thing is, though, Trump loves a bread and circus, right? | ||
| I mean, he loves a big spectacle. | ||
| He likes big sporting events because everyone goes and looks at them and then they're happy. | ||
| I mean, that's what, you know, that's like a big part of he's like a, he's like a little bit Roman in that respect. | ||
| He's going to build a giant arch. | ||
| He's building a ballroom. | ||
| You know, he likes big giant things. | ||
| He's destroying the White House, according to them. | ||
| But you know, I saw a tweet. | ||
| Well, the whole East Wing's gone now, right? | ||
| I didn't... | ||
| Yeah, the east... | ||
| That little section. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Not that little section. | ||
| That whole east wing. | ||
| I really hope... | ||
| Well, they're going to replace it with something way better. | ||
| I really hope he just names it the Trump Annex. | ||
| I mean, I really do because I want it to live enshrined in the minds of every Democrat that will ever come after Trump. | ||
| There is the Trump annex to the White Single. | ||
| I saw a tweet and I did not look into it, but it said that Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi are both older than the East Wing that was just abolished. | ||
| So, I mean, come on, like, it's really, it's not that historic. | ||
| Plus, every single president comes in and makes all kinds of changes. | ||
| Rose guarded him. | ||
| Obama made all kinds of changes. | ||
| He put in like a basketball court and moved tennis courts to somewhere else. | ||
| They all come in. | ||
| He removed the tennis court. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that, but that's part of it. | ||
| It's like you're a steward of the White House. | ||
| You make it better for the time that you're there. | ||
| You know, like make it better for history. | ||
| And I hope that Donald Trump does put up that giant arch in Washington, D.C. And I hope that it's gold. | ||
| I just hope that the White House extension is gold. | ||
| Make it all gold. | ||
| Golden pink marble. | ||
| Trump Tower. | ||
| Kind of like what Stephen A is talking. | ||
| I mean, Trump loves like a spectacle because he goes big. | ||
| That's why he embodies America so well. | ||
| Because Americans, I love this description of Americans is that we're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. | ||
| And he exemplifies, that's why he's relatable. | ||
| Like people relate more with Donald Trump than like, you know, like when DeSantis puts on cowboy boots or whatever. | ||
| It's like, no, I like that guy because he's rich and famous and knows like famous people and is awesome. | ||
| It's like, yeah, that's why we like him. | ||
| And like for the record, the World Cup's coming to the United States. | ||
| That's because of Donald Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he wants everything here. | ||
| He wants America to be number one. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, make the world come here and watch. | ||
| He's an entertainer. | ||
| That's why he became president. | ||
| And that's why people love him. | ||
| And I know at the risk of getting in trouble. | ||
| And that's why he's won three presidential elections. | ||
| George, did you have any correspondence with him while you were locked up? | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| You know, I called him on his cell. | ||
| It was really letters because I know there were people lobbying on your behalf. | ||
| He's the president getting like a bad guy. | ||
| I mean, like, can you imagine this call is from a federal correction facility to accept this call for us five? | ||
| And it's a white outside. | ||
| He's talking about pardoning Diddy. | ||
| So, I mean, why would that be out of that? | ||
| Did you know he was going to commute your sentence? | ||
| I did not. | ||
| So it's wild. | ||
| I mean, look, you're right. | ||
| A lot of people did advocate. | ||
| I have a lot of friends who went to bat. | ||
| It didn't feel like that many, like Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| It was elected officials. | ||
| I mean, of elected officials, there was a lot of them behind the scenes because it's politics. | ||
| So people do, you know, take precautions. | ||
| But of the ones who were very public about it, I mean, you have Marjorie Taylor Greene, you have Tim Burchett, you have Lauren Bober and Apollina Luna. | ||
| And then you also have people like Rick Rinnell and Alice Johnson. | ||
| And then you have Matt Gates, who's a former congressman. | ||
| So there was a lot of people in the front line, but way more in the back end. | ||
| But it was like an effort. | ||
| But really, my family, my spouse, my sister, my attorney was absolutely relentless. | ||
| I mean, if you all need an attorney, get my attorney. | ||
| He goes to bat for you. | ||
| But most importantly, it's like, I didn't know. | ||
| I was actually filling out my commissary sheet for the week. | ||
| And then it came on the TV and that's how I found it. | ||
| You found out on TV. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| On MSNBC. | ||
| Were you in solitary or were you with other people? | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| I had just been released from solitary a couple of days before and reintegrated into the campus. | ||
| Did everybody just like look at you? | ||
| No, they started screaming, like, bring him here. | ||
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That SOB has been holding out on us. | |
| Come over here. | ||
| I'm like, oh, my God, what's going on? | ||
| I'm like, and I look at MSNBC. | ||
| Chiron said something along like, disgrace New York Republican George Santos coming out of jail. | ||
| Trump commuted his sentence. | ||
| I'm like, MSNBC's clearly lost their proverbial shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I pick up the phone. | ||
| I go to the phones. | ||
| I call home. | ||
| I'm like, what's going on? | ||
| And they're like, my partner goes like, I'm on my way to pick you up. | ||
| I just spoke to the president. | ||
| I'm like, wait, what? | ||
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You spoke to the president. | |
| I've never spoken to the president on the phone. | ||
| I was like angry at that at first. | ||
| And I just lost. | ||
| I started crying. | ||
| I think this is a really good sign that Trump is done playing stupid games. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He tried to be very diplomatic in his first term. | ||
| The fact that he did not wait until the end of his second term, he was literally like, I don't care, just get him out of jail. | ||
| He's just like, we're doing this. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Here's what I look at it. | ||
| After what Biden did, I think he, you know what? | ||
| Quite frankly, fuck you. | ||
| Like anybody who's like putching pearls. | ||
| I've gone every cable news network from Chris Cuomo, I mean, barely cable for News Nation, but I did Chris Cuomo to everyone else. | ||
| And they're all going nuts. | ||
| Like, you should be ashamed. | ||
| I'm like, wait, I should be ashamed for receiving clemency. | ||
| I thought the United States is all about second chances, but only for Hunter Biden, you know? | ||
| Oh, second. | ||
| Seventh? | ||
| Third. | ||
| I don't know, whatever. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm thankful, obviously. | ||
| And to say it's humbling, it's crazy, but it was definitely a surprise. | ||
| I did not know. | ||
| If I knew, trust me, I would totally know. | ||
| So, do you, of course, real quick, do you think you deserved seven and a half years? | ||
| Seven years and three months for essentially a campaign finance indictment. | ||
| If you look at all the elements of it, it was all campaign related from 2022 from my successful run for Congress, not my first one. | ||
| And no, I mean, Jesse Jackson Jr. went to prison for 30 months and he took three or four times what he stole outright from the taxpayer. | ||
| I put money towards, and then obviously there was misappropriation. | ||
| But the crazy part is I was the largest benefactor of my campaign because I put $700,000 of my own money in there. | ||
| So just real quick, what's your backstory as to how you were able to do it? | ||
| Do you have to run a business? | ||
| I mean, look, it's out in the public. | ||
| I mean, I've always been in the high assets market with private equity. | ||
| So working with a lot of high net worth individuals and family offices. | ||
| So I had a career in private equity for 10 years right before the campaign. | ||
| I mean, I sold a $22 million yacht with a waterfall, one of two, a Mangusta, beautiful Italian. | ||
| I'm not trying to sound like an asshole. | ||
| I know there were like allegations of you working at like Goldman Sachs and Citibank. | ||
| Did you work at these places? | ||
| I didn't work. | ||
| So that's the bigger part. | ||
| I didn't work for them, but I did do work with them. | ||
| And that was just more, that was literally more of an embellishing resume for the sake of making it look better. | ||
| But I never worked at the institutions. | ||
| That was definitely not true. | ||
| But I have worked in the private equity space since 2014. | ||
| So it's like 11 years in the space. | ||
| So like the reality is I made money. | ||
| That's clear. | ||
| I mean, you don't just people like to say, oh, those are probably stolen from campaign donors. | ||
| I'm like, dude, you guys must really think my entire life was a grift. | ||
| Why would you want to be in office? | ||
| It was the stupidest thing I've ever done. | ||
| I mean, I did it because I really thought you can change things from the inside when I got there. | ||
| I'm like, oh, this is a zoo. | ||
| This is theater, like literally theater. | ||
| I mean, I took the mat three months before going to Congress, I made $800,000. | ||
| And then I subjected myself to $174,000 a year. | ||
| Do you have any remorse for your crimes? | ||
| Of course I do. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Like, stupidest thing a human being can do is, first of all, I didn't need to do any of it. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I genuinely didn't need to. | ||
| You probably couldn't be rich. | ||
| Zimmerman otherwise. | ||
| Zimmerman. | ||
| I would have. | ||
| I was going to say something so bad. | ||
| Anyway, I could have curbstopped. | ||
| I was going to stop for 10 o'clock. | ||
| Yeah, I would have curb stomped Zimmerman 10 ways from Tuesdays with my freaking eyes closed because I was running against a senile candidate who's like 68 years old, fourth run, I think fourth run for Congress, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| I was 34 years old. | ||
| I was running circles around him. | ||
| Like he was frail and old and just, you know, but I regret it because I didn't need to do it, but my ambition and my insecurities took over. | ||
| I was also fending off a primary opponent or a potential primary. | ||
| Everything just was like dumb and self, self-inflicted. | ||
| And if I could go backwards and do it again, I would do it so differently because A, people like to say, oh, he's only sorry because he got caught. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| I'm sorry because it was A, stupid. | ||
| I caused a lot of pain, hurt, and disappointment to a lot of good people that I genuinely like that I'm probably never going to be able to square away that those relationships. | ||
| And, you know, I had a potential. | ||
| I had a really good career ahead of me and I blew it up and it was dumb. | ||
| And, you know, I have to live with it. | ||
| And not to mention the district that you were representing, New York's third. | ||
| It's like a flip district, you know, a purple district that you're looking at. | ||
| Long Island, one of these important districts on a super slim majority that the House had. | ||
| No, I get, I was part of giving the House a majority because they messed up all over the country, but then New York saved the majority. | ||
| Crucial. | ||
| And, you know, you were one of the supporting votes for Johnson, who I think was struggling to get the speakership at the time. | ||
| I was one of the ringleaders to create the consent. | ||
| The consensus was created. | ||
| Nobody likes to talk about the facts here. | ||
| The consensus for Mike Johnson for Speaker Johnson's was created by me, Lauren Boeber, and Matt Gates. | ||
| I don't care what anybody says. | ||
| Speaker Johnson was just Congressman Johnson. | ||
| We were going through Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, Tom Emmer, and nobody would get a consensus. | ||
| Oh, you did this or you did that. | ||
| And there was like the tribes, right? | ||
| The families, as we call them, in the conference. | ||
| I went up to Johnson right off the bat and I said, you need to jump in. | ||
| He's like, oh, I can't do this. | ||
| I said, dude, you're the only person in the conference everybody likes. | ||
| Like, nobody has quarrels with you. | ||
| And he's like, I can't do this. | ||
| You know, I look up to Jim and to Steve. | ||
| They're like big brothers to me. | ||
| I'm like, sure, Mike, but you need to do it. | ||
| So I insist that I insisted after it all went to crap with Mike Johnson's, with what's his name? | ||
| Jim Jordan's three votes on the floor. | ||
| He texts me, I guess, like two or three days later in the morning after we recess and go home. | ||
| It's like, George, you know, I appreciate all the encouragement or something along those line. | ||
| I appreciate all the encouragement. | ||
| I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. | ||
| Do I still have your support? | ||
| I literally go, let's effing go. | ||
| I call Lauren Bobert. | ||
| I think it was like six o'clock in the morning because I'm that guy. | ||
| Like, I have the energy. | ||
| I'm up. | ||
| So I'm like, she's like, what happened? | ||
| Who died? | ||
| I'm like, nobody died. | ||
| Mike's in. | ||
| She starts screaming on the other line. | ||
| And that was off to the races. | ||
| Do you resent Johnson, the Speaker Johnson, after everything that passed now? | ||
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Not at all. | |
| No, you know what? | ||
| I did for a while because I was feeding into the hatred inside of me that was really poisonous. | ||
| And I did say some things that I completely regret and take back. | ||
| And I've told him that very much personally and publicly. | ||
| I've spoken about it. | ||
| I think Mike Johnson did what he thought was the right thing to do is to let people vote their conscience. | ||
| And people thought in their conscience that, you know, they were so self-important that they were perfect. | ||
| And I had to go. | ||
| And here I am. | ||
| I'm, I can't respect it, but I'm a little disappointed. | ||
| We were talking about this a moment ago: the lack of unity. | ||
| Matt Walsh has been on the receiving end of heavy criticism for the past several weeks because he said he's willing to unite with anyone on the right to defeat the evil on the left. | ||
| And he said this after Charlie was killed and everyone praised him. | ||
| He said it again after these group chats got leaked and now he's getting flack. | ||
| And I'm just sitting here being like, okay, I hear you, moderate conservative Republicans, that you don't want to unite with, say, Nick Fundis or whoever. | ||
| But when George Santos was in Congress, all of these same people, not literally all of them, but a bunch of conservatives are like, nah, fire him. | ||
| And I'm like, they have Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talaib and these other people who say awful things and are very, very bad and they unify no matter what. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| It's no matter what. | ||
| I mean, look, they're backing Jay Jones in Virginia. | ||
| They're backing that guy with the Nazi tattoo in Maine. | ||
| Jay Jones. | ||
| Oh, the accidental Nazi tattoo gets covered up with dogs now. | ||
| Like, dude, you put dogs over the Nazi tattoo. | ||
| Like, you're a really bad dog. | ||
| Let's just lay that up. | ||
| Jay Jones said he wanted his rival's children to be murdered. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And if he had the option, it was that famous. | ||
| It's what did he say? | ||
| Hitler poll pot and the Republican speaker. | ||
| And I had two bullets. | ||
| He said that he would shoot the Republican twice. | ||
| Twice. | ||
| And he lost only three points in the polls. | ||
| Stanberger still backs him. | ||
| The ACLU sent out, paid for mailers that went out, you know, and the ACLU doesn't endorse. | ||
| And you pointed out Johnson said, vote your conscience when it came to you. | ||
| And I'm like, listen, if I have to sit here and compare what you're accused of doing to the guy who called for the murder of his rival's children, I'll take the campaign finance violation guy. | ||
| Well, and the other thing, too, is the Democrats, like you were saying, they always unify. | ||
| They don't care who they're unifying around. | ||
| They will back anybody so long as they're part of their tribe. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, cult cult. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tribe. | ||
| We have a tribe. | ||
| They have a cult. | ||
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Right. | |
| They have a cult. | ||
| But they're such a guy. | ||
| But they're like looking at a mirror. | ||
| So they're like, oh, Colt, it's Coltis. | ||
| I'm like, I know, I know. | ||
| You're looking at your reflection. | ||
| But the thing, but it's crazy. | ||
| And now we have people doing all this infighting among the conservative side. | ||
| And it's like, guys, they have guns. | ||
| Like, they're killing our guys. | ||
| They, they killed Charlie, you know, children. | ||
| They killed children. | ||
| They're doing all of this stuff. | ||
| And we're just like, yeah, but, you know, a bunch of kids said some goofy stuff on a text. | ||
| I'll say this about the kids in the schools. | ||
| I'm going to try to steal, man, as much as I can because when you go that direction, they'll then try and claim that white supremacists are right wing. | ||
| So I say, okay, hold on. | ||
| The alleged assassin in the killing of Charlie Kirk, the ideology is identical to Ocasio-Cortez, who went on the House floor and smeared Charlie Kirk's good name, what, like a week after he was murdered. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The concern that I have is that the No Kings protesters on the street saying kill ICE agents, the far left and liberals and liberals who are shooting up Tesla. | ||
| It is the exact same ideology as the mainstream Democratic Party. | ||
| Now, when they say the right has their extremists, no, no, no, hold on there, guys, draw a minute. | ||
| There is no moderate conservative with an extremist ideology. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| If you come to me and you say, why don't you condemn the evil white supremacist? | ||
| Done. | ||
| Literally everybody does. | ||
| Charlie does, Trump does. | ||
| But when it comes to the far left extremists, they say, sure, it was bad, but he was right ideologically. | ||
| Well, they also, they also, in their studies, they say that jihad is right-wing. | ||
| You know, anti-government is right-wing. | ||
| Yeah, anti-government is right-wing. | ||
| And they don't include Tesla dealerships. | ||
| They say that's economic crime. | ||
| They say that the riots or BLM riots wasn't left-wing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Left is only when they're marketing. | ||
| They're like nationalist or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they're very specific about what they classify as left-wing violence because they don't want to. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| They get to cherry pick. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| Like, they pigeonhole us to their narrative, but when we try to do the same back. | ||
| No, no, no, that's not. | ||
| It's like when the transgender dude in what was that, Ohio? | ||
| No, no, no, the one from 2023 that went into the Christian school. | ||
| Nashville, the coverage. | ||
| Was that Nashville? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That was a girl, Audrey Hale. | ||
| It was a trans person who was completely out of their rocker. | ||
| Like 99% of trans people who are like, oh my God, please accept me, me, who I couldn't accept a genitalia. | ||
| I was freaking born with, goes in there, kills kids, and they actually, not a word comes out of their mouth. | ||
| That drives me absolutely insane. | ||
| Well, it's not just that not a word came out of their mouths. | ||
| They were defending her. | ||
| They were saying, oh, it's so hard to be trans. | ||
| Yeah, so you're going to justify murder. | ||
| It's like, look, as a gay man, it stresses me out because I am being put with these people who clearly have a mental health disorder that I do not do. | ||
| I might be crazy in my own terms, but it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, right? | ||
| These people literally fight their own body because they're so sick and we're not treating them. | ||
| Also, if you look at like statistics of, you know, homosexuality, that pretty much stays static throughout the years, throughout the decades. | ||
| Trans goes up and down. | ||
| Trans goes up and down. | ||
| Because it's a fad. | ||
| Because it's a fad. | ||
| It's like, I remember when I was in high school. | ||
| When I was in high school, I remember this year, all the girls went lesbian. | ||
| Every single girl. | ||
| I'm older than you. | ||
| Maybe the guys were just chopped that year. | ||
| No, it was just really bad. | ||
| All the girls are like dating each other. | ||
| All of them are now married with kids and children. | ||
| I'm like, I'm like, oh, okay. | ||
| So I guess it was a fad. | ||
| It was a four-year lesbian thing when I was in college. | ||
| It was like. | ||
| My point, you know, like, so it's just like, I think this is it. | ||
| But the problem with this, it's so demonic and dangerous. | ||
| Like, I literally see these videos of little boys with their mothers and like getting injections, hormone blockers. | ||
| I'm like, it is demonic. | ||
| Tim Burcher shared one the other day and he literally quipped it demonic. | ||
| I was like, bad goosebumps. | ||
| And the Charlie Kirk assassination happened so quickly after the shooting of the Catholic children in Minneapolis that people almost memory hold it. | ||
| But if you take a look at the illustrations in that man's journal, you will see that his self-portrait is that of Baphomet. | ||
| He sees himself as a demon and he was clearly possessed. | ||
| I will say the last shooting victim came home from the hospital today, the 12-year-old girl who was shot in the head and they had turbulent part of her skull. | ||
| She came home. | ||
| It's a long road to recovery, but it seems like a little bit of a miracle going. | ||
| It's actually good news. | ||
| It's really good news. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail. | ||
| Chilling messages reveal how mafia henchmen allegedly threatened and attacked victims of their rigged NBA poker games. | ||
| This is the, it's a crazy story. | ||
| It's like out of an action movie. | ||
| It's just nuts. | ||
| The FBI claims it uncovered a decades-long mafia-led poker ring. | ||
| The alleged scheme involved professional athletes, including Portland Trailblazers head coach Chauncey Billips, being used as, quote, face cards to attract victims to the table where high-tech methods were used by the mafia to rig the games, says the indictment. | ||
| And I am proud to say, for the loyal viewers of Timcast, you would not have been fleeced by this because we talked about this two years ago. | ||
| Two years ago. | ||
| In one instance, Jen Hu, 37 from Brooklyn, sent chilling messages to an alleged victim of the ring, identified as John Doe Five for not paying up. | ||
| Yeah, you not going to pay me? | ||
| Who asked in a message on November 5th, which he swiftly followed by saying another message, all right, bet. | ||
| Is that him right there? | ||
| So I guess the do mob enforcers are Asian now. | ||
| That's actually interesting. | ||
| Is it Asian mafia? | ||
| He says, watch what's good now. | ||
| You've been running your mouth unchecked, he warned. | ||
| In the days that followed, the diamond claims, who is said to have made good on his threat when he allegedly assaulted Doe Five, quote, I punched somebody in the face the other day. | ||
| Ish unraveling quick, he told the unnamed recipient. | ||
| Now, we've got this video right here from Timcast News. | ||
| This is Solve for Why. | ||
| This is, I believe this is Matt Berkey on his podcast talking about this. | ||
| He's a pro poker player talking about how these games were run and what they found. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| There are a lot of stories about it. | ||
| There's one that cropped up. | ||
| This must have been like five years ago, 2019-ish, I think. | ||
| Four years ago. | ||
| Where there was this game. | ||
| It started in LA and then it came to Vegas. | ||
| for a few days and it was all built around Chauncey Phillips. | ||
| And I had heard about the game and the person who told me about it was like, look, I know the game runners. | ||
| I'm telling you 100% this game is on the up and up. | ||
| And I was like, well, I know a lot of the people that are involved and I'm telling you 100% that it is not on the up and up. | ||
| And, you know, we kind of went back and forth and I agreed that like I just wasn't going to go play it. | ||
| But I had some friends who went and played it both in LA and in Vegas. | ||
| And it obviously was for sure confirmed to be cheated. | ||
| Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of No Limit Hold'em are just like jamming hundreds of big blinds in with like a gutty and then just thrilling it. | ||
| Only the pros are losing. | ||
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| Like it just. | ||
| So that's the gist of it, where we're getting this story. | ||
| They'd invite people in and I'll translate a little bit what he said when he said hundreds of big blinds. | ||
| Just he's saying lots of money and a gutty is a very unlikely probability to win. | ||
| He was saying people who didn't know what they were doing were playing ridiculous bets and they were defeating all the pros. | ||
| The New York Times says that what they would do, this is wild. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| High-tech sophisticated technology like from the movie Oceans 13. | ||
| The machine that shuffled the cards was not just randomly mixing them up. | ||
| It had technology hidden inside that could read the cards in the deck, predict which player had the best hand and relay that information to somebody off-site. | ||
| That person would then use a cell phone to communicate the intel to someone at the table who would steer the other cheating players with secret signals like tapping certain chips or body parts. | ||
| In some of the rigged games, the poker chip trays had hidden cameras that could read the cards on the table. | ||
| That one doesn't seem to make sense to me, but we can speculate, I guess. | ||
| The cards also sometimes had markings that were visible only to people wearing specially designed contact lenses or sunglasses. | ||
| I will stress, we have those playing cards. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they're marked with on the back of each card is a very big number that can only be seen if you're wearing UV glasses or contact lenses. | ||
| We have them as a gag because we are filming a comedy bit or something. | ||
| But legit, the sunglasses are purple. | ||
| You put them on. | ||
| Everything looks purple. | ||
| And the back of every playing card looks just like this. | ||
| You'll see a big purple number. | ||
| Yes, you'll know exactly what they have. | ||
| I would love a deck like that at Blackjack. | ||
| Wouldn't people be tipped off, though, if people are wearing the glasses? | ||
| Not if they're detectable. | ||
| But they're purple. | ||
| So how do you not tell? | ||
| Because people don't know to look for these things. | ||
| And a lot of poker players wear sunglasses when they're playing. | ||
| It's very common. | ||
| They wear the sunglasses. | ||
| Purple ones. | ||
| Today on the culture, we had Doug Polk, obviously legendary poker player. | ||
| And he said, he's like, in my entire career, I've never played a house game because he's like, there's just too many spots to look out for. | ||
| I got to challenge him, though, because I watched the interview you did with Doug Polk. | ||
| Shout out to Doug Polk. | ||
| He's probably one of the most famous, if not the most famous players right now, because he's got a big YouTube presence. | ||
| But he said, if you're playing a game, if you're playing a home game, which is like a private game, which is very, very common, and you see a shuffle machine, you should be worried. | ||
| It's incorrect. | ||
| If you see a Deckmate 2 shuffle machine, because those have cameras inside of them, this is a security feature, actually, so you can tell if someone's adding cards or changing the structure of the deck. | ||
| It'll warn you and it'll spit the deck back out. | ||
| But hackers figured out two years ago how to plug something into the USB or Ethernet port. | ||
| And that camera, it tracks the position of every card. | ||
| And then it sends the, once the deck is shuffled, it sends it out to a random person. | ||
| It can send it out to any person they want through Bluetooth. | ||
| And then we talked about this a couple years ago when it happened. | ||
| On Timcast IRL, researchers in Vegas at DEF CON, the hacker convention, said they figured this out. | ||
| And a bunch of commenters and people were saying, but they still cut the deck. | ||
| That doesn't change the order of the cards. | ||
| It changes the order of two cards. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So long as any, so anybody who has access to the deck information from the hack machine, when they see the first visible cards that come out on the board, it's called the flop, they know what card everyone has. | ||
| And if you're in hand, meaning like you've got cards, you're playing the game and you're wearing headphones, you can look down at your cards. | ||
| You can easily relay that information in a million different ways, and then your person who's sitting a table over can tell you if you're going to win or not. | ||
| Here's what gets crazy about this is they didn't need to do it. | ||
| This is what I don't understand about this story. | ||
| It sounds like I'll put it like this. | ||
| I bet if you went to Matt Berkey or Doug Polk and said, you want to rip off a bunch of morons at a high-stakes game with Chauncey Billips and other pro athletes, how would you do it? | ||
| They'd be like, we'd invite fish to come play poker. | ||
| Like, we're going to crush them. | ||
| There's nothing they can do. | ||
| It sounds like the mob was like, let's cheat them because they didn't know how to play poker. | ||
| I feel like you go to anybody who knows how to play poker and they're going to be like, oh, we'll run a game at the table. | ||
| You get two players, play on a team, and you basically just, you can play. | ||
| I'll try to keep the example really simple, but two players at one table can do a handful of things from very, very technically above board to super illicit. | ||
| There was a cheating ring at MGM National Harbor. | ||
| This is what I was told by the people who worked there. | ||
| It was three guys. | ||
| They play at one table, and they had a way to tap information about the cards they had to each other. | ||
| So a guy looks down at his hand and he sees a hand that's very bad. | ||
| Let's say ace seven off suit. | ||
| Like, yeah, you got an ace. | ||
| That's pretty good. | ||
| But you're not suited. | ||
| You can't do any of the seven and you're facing a race. | ||
| You don't want to play it. | ||
| However, he wants to let his buddy know he's folding an ace. | ||
| So he would tap a chip. | ||
| There's a lot easier ways to cheat than using high-tech RFID scanner tables and hidden cameras and all sorts of nonsense. | ||
| And additionally, the crazy thing is you don't need to cheat. | ||
| It's very common in Vegas. | ||
| They'll invite Chinese millionaires and billionaires to play these games where they know they're going to win and the Chinese millionaires and billionaires are going to lose. | ||
| But these Chinese, like these guys from Macau, they're like, I literally don't care if I lose $5 million. | ||
| Yo, Macau is why don't they care? | ||
| How did they get so much? | ||
| They just have so much money. | ||
| I mean, Macau is just nuts. | ||
| I played Blackjack and Macau on a trip to Asia, a business trip, and it's scary. | ||
| It's very intimidating. | ||
| I only play Blackjack, for instance, in high limit rooms because it's hand-shuffled. | ||
| I will not play. | ||
| You're talking about machines. | ||
| I just don't feel comfortable because the machines can line up the cards, like you just said. | ||
| I just don't feel comfortable playing. | ||
| Only there are specific machines that can. | ||
| I don't know if the deckmate one can. | ||
| I just, I'm not interested in a machine shuffle at all. | ||
| I will not play. | ||
| Oh, bro, don't play hand shuffle. | ||
| I only play hand shuffle and it works. | ||
| That's the easiest to rig, bro. | ||
| Even I can card track. | ||
| So well for me. | ||
| I mean, if you're at a casino, you got nothing to worry about, hand shuffle or otherwise. | ||
| But if you're playing anything private. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no, that's, that's just anything private. | ||
| Not my cup of tea. | ||
| This is what I was saying about what Doug. | ||
| I would suggest if you're playing private, you want to see a deckmate one. | ||
| It just litters as deckmate on it because those, as far as we know, can't really be manipulated. | ||
| There's no internal camera to track which card's going where. | ||
| Deckmate two is a excuse me as a camera. | ||
| And bro, card tracking. | ||
| Like when you watch Penn and Tellers Fool Me or whatever, and you've got people pulling card tricks, it's not magic. | ||
| They're not doing illusions. | ||
| They're tracking cards, yeah. | ||
| It's literally, there's 52 cards. | ||
| It's extremely easy to memorize where one card is going to end up when you cut the deck perfectly in the middle and then count to where it was. | ||
| And there's a guy that I follow on Instagram. | ||
| He's one of the best, if not the best in the world. | ||
| I think you pronounce the name Jason Ladaney. | ||
| I recommend you guys check out his videos. | ||
| This guy is a master card tracker. | ||
| And people think it's an illusion, a sleight of hand, or a magic trick. | ||
| I'm not going to try and speak for him because I don't know exactly how he does all of the tricks. | ||
| Some of it is. | ||
| But I'm fairly certain this guy literally just knows the position of every card. | ||
| He's been doing it for decades. | ||
| You hire this guy to deal for you. | ||
| Not him because he's a performer, but there are people who can do this. | ||
| You sit down at one of these games. | ||
| I'm like, they don't need machines to do this. | ||
| They could have literally got a magician to deal out hands. | ||
| They don't need a machine. | ||
| And you can never trace it. | ||
| You can't prove somebody was a magician. | ||
| So why do you think they did all this? | ||
| Because the mafia didn't understand poker. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I think it's wild that the mafia is still there. | ||
| I'm actually shocked to see like Gambling. | ||
| Macosa Nostra. | ||
| I mean, Gambino. | ||
| Classics. | ||
| Yeah, the classics. | ||
| These are old names. | ||
| Who did we have on the show? | ||
| Francesi, is that his name? | ||
| Probably pronouncing his name wrong. | ||
| That sounds like a decent pronunciation. | ||
| But he was saying the mob never went anywhere. | ||
| They're just lying low. | ||
| They don't want to get, they don't want to, they want to do business. | ||
| It was a mistake when they were all John Gotti, high profile, all that stuff. | ||
| I mean, the more nuts and the Persicas and all of them, I mean, but it's crazy. | ||
| Well, the Godfather made it all so cool, you know? | ||
| And too much exposure, but reading that and seeing their names was not so many. | ||
| Let me throw this in there. | ||
| There's actually two regular jets that I think are really, really good. | ||
| One is about gambling. | ||
| One's about J.B., which I definitely want to talk about in this context. | ||
| But someone said, Tim, explain how playing poker for money isn't gambling. | ||
| It depends on your definition of gambling. | ||
| It's a stock market gambling. | ||
| We hear that all the time. | ||
| But the issue is this. | ||
| If you enter a fishing tournament, are you gambling? | ||
| Technically, in some instances, according to the IRS, it is gambling. | ||
| But you might be saying, like, hold on. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I'm good at fishing. | ||
| I paid $100 to enter the tournament. | ||
| All I got to do now is catch a bigger and more fish than the other guy and I win. | ||
| And then the IRS says, can you control how many fish are in the water? | ||
| No. | ||
| Can you control the size of the fish you catch? | ||
| No. | ||
| Can you control how much money will be put in the pot that will be paid out for the tournament? | ||
| No. | ||
| So you actually can't control all these circumstances. | ||
| That's actually legally gambling in a lot of circumstances. | ||
| Gambling winnings, whether it be blackjack or tournaments, falls into the same category, which is, I think it's called W-2G or something like this. | ||
| So the question around poker has longly been debated because poker is considered social poker, like Texas Holdham, PLO, Hilo, Pineapple, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| They're considered to be skill games. | ||
| I'll put it this way. | ||
| If you want to play a game of war with somebody, everyone gets one card and whoever's the high card wins. | ||
| Okay, that's gambling. | ||
| You want to play blackjack? | ||
| You don't know what you're going to get? | ||
| You're gambling. | ||
| You want to play a game of PLO against me? | ||
| I guarantee you most people listening are like, I don't know what PLO is. | ||
| How can you win a game you don't know how to play against another person? | ||
| It's a completely a skill game. | ||
| Then the question is, okay, it's called Pot Limit Omaha. | ||
| You want to play a game of Pot Limit Omaha against me? | ||
| Heads up. | ||
| What's the best hand? | ||
| What cards are you looking for that you're going to wager money on? | ||
| You don't actually know. | ||
| Okay, it's a skill game. | ||
| And so professionals in Texas Holdham, which is substantially more popular, they know almost all of the math for the cards that you get and the position you're in and the likelihood you're going to win. | ||
| And that's the game they're playing. | ||
| Several studies have been done that found around 80% of all winning hands are not the game-winning hand. | ||
| It was the play of the player. | ||
| That being said, because I definitely want to answer that. | ||
| Someone brought up J.B. Pritzker, so I definitely want to talk about J.B. Pritzker. | ||
| You guys heard? | ||
| Was this this 1.4 million in black jackets? | ||
| $1.4 million. | ||
| No, no, no, not on blackjack. | ||
| He never said. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| He said cards. | ||
| Just cards. | ||
| He said cards because he's clever. | ||
| But it was one trip, right? | ||
| One trip and he won $1.4 million. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So let's talk about how J.B. Pritzker, governor of Illinois, somehow made 14% of his yearly income in one weekend in Vegas. | ||
| I'm sorry, man. | ||
| I am a card player, okay? | ||
| I play blackjack. | ||
| I play, I don't play three-card poker. | ||
| It's a terrible game with miserable odds. | ||
| I like Mississippi, Cajun, for those that don't know. | ||
| I like Texas Holdham. | ||
| I like playing some PLO sometimes. | ||
| I play cards. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you right now, I call shenanigans on this Pritzker making $1.4 million when his income was reported at $10 million. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Times said it was Blackjack. | ||
| So look at his actual video. | ||
| He didn't actually say it. | ||
| I'm pretty sure his quote was, I went to Vegas and got lucky on cards. | ||
| I've gotten lucky on cards, not $1.4 million. | ||
| And so pretty aggressively in the past. | ||
| So we can say if you've got to take JB to play Blackjack. | ||
| So my understanding is homie's a billionaire, right? | ||
| He's a rich man. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| It's entirely possible that he went to Vegas. | ||
| He's worth a ridiculous amount of money. | ||
| And he said, I'm going to take out $10 million to play with. | ||
| Entirely possible, right? | ||
| You see reported winnings of $1.4 million. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Maybe he lost $3 million, won $1.4 back. | ||
| And he doesn't want to tell people. | ||
| I got to be honest, if you're running for office, there's a lot of members of Congress who play poker. | ||
| And whenever I ask him, if like, would you want to play a game, maybe go on stream? | ||
| They're like, oh, no, no, no, no, I couldn't do that. | ||
| I couldn't do that. | ||
| Because it makes you look bad for re-election. | ||
| The number one cardinal rule of office is do not show people your means and your ability to go play a game and lose tens of thousands of dollars when people can't even equate sometimes the summation of $100,000 to make their bills. | ||
| You're asking, and you're saying, I need you to donate to me and I need your vote. | ||
| And can you send me five bucks? | ||
| It's not a good look. | ||
| Yeah, the asking for money when you can afford to lose thousands. | ||
| You know, I got that thrown at me a lot when I was running because I did give my campaign $700,000. | ||
| And a lot of people, like, you know, the grassroot people, they'd be like, well, if you gave yourself that much money, why do you need my $5? | ||
| It's a very, you know, it's a tight rope. | ||
| You're like, because it's not enough and I don't have any more. | ||
| Or, well, if you gave $700, that means you can put more. | ||
| Like, there's this dichotomy to it. | ||
| So the last thing you want, and you're right on the money, the last thing JB Pritzker wants is to go and say, well, this wasn't actually a winning. | ||
| I actually lost $1.6 million. | ||
| So actually, you can look at it this way too. | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| The most ideal situation for J.B. Pritzker would be to say, those are recorded winnings. | ||
| My recorded losses were also around 1.4 million. | ||
| I actually only ended up with an extra $100. | ||
| So, what happens in any kind of gaming is if I bet $100 on blackjack and then I win $100, I now have two. | ||
| Then I make another bet and lose, my winnings are $100, my losings are $100, and I've made $0. | ||
| The ideal circumstance for Pritzker would be to come out and say, it's actually a break-even game. | ||
| Winnings are reported, but losses were also reported. | ||
| The only thing is, that wasn't what it was. | ||
| He came out on top. | ||
| He doesn't want to come out and say, I pulled $10 million out of the bank, screwed around, willing to risk $10 million, and then ended up just coming out with another million bucks while Chicago burns. | ||
| While Chicago burns. | ||
| That's what you were just saying. | ||
| Most people cannot fathom $10 million. | ||
| But I want to say something else because I'm pretty sure he wasn't playing Blackjack, but I could be wrong. | ||
| Do you want to try and look up what he actually said in the interview, the full quote? | ||
| Yeah, I'm just seeing where the Times said blackjack, but they don't have it in quotes. | ||
| Because he said he's a card player, and that's why he does poker games. | ||
| So when someone says I got lucky in cards, I think poker, not blackjack. | ||
| Although some people were saying blackjack, maybe that's I because I, okay, we got to pull up his quote. | ||
| Let me get this. | ||
| What was anybody who played who's played cards in a casino knows that you often play for too long and lose whatever it is that you won? | ||
| I was fortunate enough to have to leave before that happened. | ||
| Okay, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
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| Okay, quote: He said, I went on vacation with my wife, with some friends. | ||
| I was incredibly lucky. | ||
| You have to be to end up ahead, frankly, going to a casino anywhere. | ||
| It was in Las Vegas, and I like to play cards. | ||
| I've made this point a million and one times. | ||
| So for all the people out there who are like, Tim, we don't care about poker, you're now all of a sudden going, Hey, wait a minute. | ||
| Hold on there a minute. | ||
| Wasn't Tim talking about this like six months ago? | ||
| Somebody wants to bribe a politician, right? | ||
| So the lobbyist goes to a poker game at a casino with a no-max, means there's no maximum buy-in. | ||
| And he says, I want to play $100,000. | ||
| The recipient, say they're running a super PAC or a member of Congress or something like that, says, I too will play a high-stakes game with tens of thousands of dollars. | ||
| Bribe Er says, I'm going to bet $15,000 on these two really good cards. | ||
| Recipient then says, Oh, yeah, I'm all in. | ||
| The guy with the bribe now has a choice. | ||
| He can match the amount of money this guy raised or fold or fold. | ||
| And so he's trying to bribe him. | ||
| So he goes, Rats, I was bluffing. | ||
| You win. | ||
| Throws his cards into the muck. | ||
| Nobody can see what he had. | ||
| And the dealer will shuffle the $15,000 over to the person receiving the bribe. | ||
| And then when the person who got the bribe is asked, what'd you get? | ||
| He says, got lucky playing cards in Vegas one weekend. | ||
| Thank you for teaching people how to take bribes now. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Now we got to watch out casinos for politicians. | ||
| I just got to say, I question how J.B. Pritzker made a $1.4 million in a weekend. | ||
| And I want to stress, there's a very high, like, if you ever watch Dana White play blackjack, he wins millions of dollars in a weekend. | ||
| So Pritzker may just be a billionaire who pulled out 20 million bucks. | ||
| He has an infinite amount of money compared to most people. | ||
| The struggle here for me is I've played blackjack pretty aggressively in my life. | ||
| I mean, to a detriment even, and I agree with him. | ||
| If you don't know when to stop, you will give everything back. | ||
| You're going to have the luckiest night ever. | ||
| You will give every penny back. | ||
| It's happened. | ||
| I mean, I've been up hundreds of thousands of dollars only to turn around and leave at a loss. | ||
| And again, starting with like 10 grand and just getting really lucky, playing for hours, I've sat, the longest I've sat at a blackjack table was 16 hours, which is psychotic. | ||
| Gambling is degenerate. | ||
| It is a sin. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| All of these crowd stories should exemplify. | ||
| Wait, please. | ||
| Should exemplify why you shouldn't gamble. | ||
| Gambling in these casinos and sports betting, it acts as a regressive tax on the poorest in our societies. | ||
| There's a saying that the casino always wins, and it's true because the house always wins. | ||
| The house always wins. | ||
| And it's because they have an edge over you, and you should abstain from sin when possible. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Now, define gambling. | ||
| So there's a spectrum to it, right? | ||
| If you're gambling with, like, say, phishing is your example, or like Pokemon cards and buying Pokemon cards is a good thing. | ||
| It's actually easily definable. | ||
| I'm not asking to play trick question. | ||
| Gambling is when you enter in a game of chance for which you can't control the outcome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if you're betting, do you ever have fun, though? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| I don't think you have a lot of fun. | ||
| You got to have fun. | ||
| No, I think poor people struggle and then they go to casinos because they think it's easy to get. | ||
| But that's what they end up looking at. | ||
| That's more often than not. | ||
| I understand you're incorrect. | ||
| In what part? | ||
| The majority of people who are going to casinos aren't thinking they're going to hit it rich. | ||
| Some people do, and they've got an addiction. | ||
| Most people will sit down, have no idea what's going on, play, chuckle, and then leave. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| I think it's a regressive tax on the poorest people. | ||
| I'm going to push back. | ||
| I think that's regressive. | ||
| I think it's bad we have this many casinos. | ||
| I think we need substantially less. | ||
| We were better off when it was just Vegas and Atlantic City. | ||
| Completely agree. | ||
| I mean, now we have a great phones. | ||
| Even worse than that. | ||
| That's just worst. | ||
| That's the absolute thing. | ||
| Do not gamble on your phones. | ||
| Gambling is bad. | ||
| It's a sin. | ||
| I'm glad we could agree that it's degenerate. | ||
| Mary, do you have any take on that? | ||
| Well, I mean, like, it is a growing problem, especially with even teenagers that are gambling on their smartphones. | ||
| You're gambling in Fortnite. | ||
| They've noted that obviously tourism in Vegas is way down because nobody needs to go to Vegas or anything. | ||
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I like when I go to Vegas once a year in order to gamble. | |
| They just do it in their bedrooms, and I don't think it should be legal. | ||
| I mean, to me, hold on, hold on. | ||
| There's only a handful of states that have actually legalized like online casinos. | ||
| Pennsylvania is like five states. | ||
| Sports betting. | ||
| Sporting a lot of people aren't. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I agree. | ||
| I'm saying online casinos. | ||
| We should not allow these online casinos. | ||
| Not to mention that we've not decriminalized, we've legalized sports betting. | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| It means that there's the power of capitalism behind it. | ||
| And I don't mean to sound like socialists. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No, but Santos, let me finish. | ||
| The issue here is that we could advertise to impressionable young kids who are watching ESPN and just like sports, but then we're, you know, we're telling them on ESPN and Sports Center that, oh, the odds, like, I don't care about the sports odd for my sports. | ||
| Sports has become tainted so much by this BS gambling. | ||
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You're correct. | |
| That is true. | ||
| I give you that. | ||
| You should abstain from this sin, Mr. Santos. | ||
| 3% of government's collective taxes come from gambling. | ||
| And that's a big deal, right? | ||
| The reason we legalize gambling in this country is to tax it. | ||
| Or else you were just going to let, I guess, the Gambino crime family keep all the proceeds. | ||
| I mean, I'm being very difference between promoting online. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Let's go back to like prohibition era and go back. | ||
| We banned alcohol and then the entire underground movement of alcohol took all the tax revenue. | ||
| During prohibition, drinking actually did go down significantly. | ||
| Sure, but so did, and crime went up and smuggling booze went up and speakeasies were going all over the place not paying taxes. | ||
| Illegal drinking went up during the prohibition because drinking became illegal. | ||
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Of course. | |
| But like drinking overall did become less common. | ||
| Violent crime in general increased with the trade. | ||
| So look, I'm fairly libertarian. | ||
| My attitude is society should, it should be socially unacceptable to a great degree. | ||
| Where I would disagree with you is you wouldn't you say that gambling is uncomfortable. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I mean, I'm embarrassed. | ||
| I'm like, I sit here. | ||
| I don't think I've ever publicly said on anywhere that I like gambling. | ||
| I don't have a gambling issue. | ||
| I mean, I don't gamble every day. | ||
| I don't have an issue with gambling. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| You've done worse. | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you think that you used to have an issue? | ||
| What you would call an issue? | ||
| With gambling? | ||
| I never had it. | ||
| I'm very sober when it comes to gambling. | ||
| Like, I have a limit. | ||
| If I go to a casino, let's say I pull out $1,000. | ||
| I'm like, it's make or break. | ||
| You're not going to see me run to the ATM and rape my account of every penny I have like some people do. | ||
| So I do it for the entertainment. | ||
| It's very entertaining, but it's funny because I don't think until this very moment I've ever had this public discussion. | ||
| And I agree, it is still very socially embarrassing to admit you gambled him. | ||
| There are so many other things. | ||
| There's not a lot of teenagers who are sports betting. | ||
| They talk about it openly. | ||
| It's a hobby for them. | ||
| I'm not a teenager. | ||
| There are prominent Twitch streamers and influencers who have started gamble streaming where they play these ridiculous games online and they get millions of views from gambling money. | ||
| Isn't that like influencer? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Steve something. | ||
| Yeah, Steve Old Dewitt. | ||
| Didn't he get banned from for streaming? | ||
| I guess it's not socially acceptable if we're banning people. | ||
| I mean, so Elad is too moralistic. | ||
| Your point, here's my argument. | ||
| Gambling is bad. | ||
| Most people I see, the overwhelming majority, will sit down, have a free drink, play a hundred bucks or whatever, and go, oh, that's enough for me. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| You're talking about people who have addictions. | ||
| If the problem is people drink too much, smoke too much, eat too much cake, too much of everything is bad. | ||
| The question is, when do we society decide to start banning you can't buy more cake because you're morbidly obese. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, Bloomberg tried that with soda. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So the issue is because some people have gambling problems, no one else can play a game of blackjack. | ||
| That seems silly. | ||
| So the problem is our culture, our society, and the fact that we are becoming increasingly degenerate, which is why I said we should not have casinos being opened everywhere. | ||
| We should allow for, say, Vegas or Atlantic City. | ||
| And maybe some reservation casinos are fine. | ||
| But the fact that Maryland now has, I shouldn't say just Maryland, but within two hours driving distance of us right now is like 12 casinos. | ||
| That is wrong. | ||
| I think this is part of a bigger thing, though. | ||
| Young men are struggling. | ||
| They're struggling with a lot of things. | ||
| They're struggling with alcohol. | ||
| They're struggling with porn addiction. | ||
| And now, what do we do to add to the struggles of young men? | ||
| We're adding, legalizing sports betting and sports gambling. | ||
| I have so many young male friends who are struggling with sports gambling, thousands, tens of thousands in debt. | ||
| It's extremely common. | ||
| And what do we have? | ||
| We have these pervasive ads on things that used to be, you know, used to just hang out with the boys, drink a couple of beers, watch a couple of football games, but now they're throwing this gambling stuff in your face. | ||
| Moreover, you're not allowed to be an advantage player on these facts. | ||
| If you come out a winning player, they will ban you from the app. | ||
| If you think people weren't gambling on sports until now, I got to bridge this. | ||
| No, Tim, but I'll tell you, the market exploded. | ||
| I think the market exploded. | ||
| I think you guys would be naive to think that the market hasn't exploded with legalization with how ease of access you have to this. | ||
| I think this is, I think you can't compare the black market sports betting to what people have access to nowadays. | ||
| It just doesn't compare. | ||
| I think we could look up what the numbers are. | ||
| I think this is like a $100 billion in the US. | ||
| This is a mathematical argument in government that I don't agree with because it and while obviously guns and gambling are very different things, the argument that because we have a broken culture of mentally ill people who murder does not mean I shouldn't be allowed to have a gun. | ||
| And because there is a society that is encouraging people to be degenerates doesn't mean you should be allowed to place a bet on a sports team. | ||
| If everyone in this country was of sound moral and principled mind and said, Look, I make like a $25 bet once a month for fun with my buddies just because we want to add a little excitement. | ||
| That's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| What you're describing as the problem is a culture that has become excessively degenerate. | ||
| I'm not for banning something because some people have problems. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, I guess the statement that we went from was it already being banned to it being unbanned. | ||
| I preferred the way it was before. | ||
| It was always allowed. | ||
| It was always allowed. | ||
| It's just they created digital apps for you. | ||
| They expanded the scope of it. | ||
| Sports betting has been illegal. | ||
| Oh, you're just a few years. | ||
| Sports betting. | ||
| Sports betting in particular. | ||
| And there's also a lot of limits on these casinos. | ||
| But again, the ease of access for sports betting in particular. | ||
| They completely changed the laws around this. | ||
| Are you going to punish? | ||
| Are you going to punish the great majority because a few people have a problem? | ||
| It's like, are you going to punish people from drinking soda because some people are punishing people by not letting them have unlimited access to bedwater? | ||
| It's not unlimited. | ||
| No, it is unlimited. | ||
| But I mean, it's unlikely. | ||
| I think you'll be arguing. | ||
| That's a very socialist take. | ||
| Like, we control what you get to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Bloomberg said we're going to tax the poor because they don't know what's good for them and they're not smart enough. | ||
| So you can't buy large sodas anymore. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, hold on. | ||
| Sometimes, rarely, I'm very thirsty. | ||
| I want to have one big meal and I want a liter of cola. | ||
| And now, because there's certainly. | ||
| And because there's just massively morbid abuse people, I'm not allowed to buy a liter of cola. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| It's a socialistic problem. | ||
| The problem is a degenerate society, not what our acts are. | ||
| Okay, but we could take this argument to the nth degree. | ||
| Do you believe that about heroin and fentanyl? | ||
| I could make these same arguments about heroin and fentanyl. | ||
| Gambling won't kill you. | ||
| Stop saying that. | ||
| You're asking me, just to be clear. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If I believe that we should have legal access to hard drugs. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So there's a great difference between a hard drug, which literally kills you in small doses, like fentanyl will kill you. | ||
| And you don't trust people to make their own decisions. | ||
| Stop being retarded. | ||
| And that is fentanyl. | ||
| A single dose of a person who's ever had before can die instantly from people can't responsibly take fentanyl in their own homes. | ||
| They just need to responsibly dose themselves. | ||
| That was in New York City. | ||
| And if they can't, if they can't responsibly direct this, it should be illegal. | ||
| Maybe you should stop getting ahead of yourself because I haven't finished my point. | ||
| You know, slow down. | ||
| You're so arrogant. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm actually largely for the legalization of drugs. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| I think the issue is, as I've said, with abortion, it should not be illegal. | ||
| It should be unthinkable. | ||
| If you have, if everybody in this country had the same moral structure, moral worldview of Charlie Kirk, we wouldn't make drugs illegal. | ||
| But that's why we're not even doing them. | ||
| It's like simply, we're not in the middle of the day. | ||
| The problem I have with this argument is what you're telling me is people are so stupid, we have to make sure they can't get access to things that can hurt them. | ||
| And that is socialism. | ||
| I'm talking about gambling. | ||
| Online sports betting in the world. | ||
| But it's a choice that people can make. | ||
| And more. | ||
| And they should be able to have the choice to get heroin and fentanyl and prostitution. | ||
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| And you should be able to kill yourself. | ||
| I think hard drugs. | ||
| Give credit to the idea also that the law teaches morality oftentimes. | ||
| It doesn't always have to reflect the cultural sentiment around a certain action. | ||
| I have a lot of people. | ||
| The law is a moral teacher. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| To a certain degree, but it has to be based in the market. | ||
| It's a law contract. | ||
| It's a fact. | ||
| It is a fact that when you have to write down your laws, your society is breaking apart. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| This is absolutely writing laws since the dawn of time. | ||
| I mean, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| No, most countries have what's called an unwritten constitution. | ||
| The constitution, Wade Stotts, shout out. | ||
| This is his thesis. | ||
| He wrote an essay about this. | ||
| He made a video about it. | ||
| The UK has an unwritten constitution. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Well, there's a thing the body politic largely agree on is acceptable and normal. | ||
| However, the problem is it's now being violated and they haven't written it down. | ||
| So in the American colonies, when they said, we'll just have an unwritten constitution, you had the anti-I believe it was the anti-federalist saying, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. | ||
| We want guarantees from you. | ||
| You better write it down. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because different colonies had different rules. | ||
| And if there was going to be a federal authority above them connected to another, they wanted guarantees certain things could never be done. | ||
| Now we have this issue between the left and the right, where the left says the Second Amendment clearly says a regulated militia, which means government control and National Guard. | ||
| And the right says regulated meant well-serviced and militia was of the people. | ||
| Which body is correct in their interpretation of the Second Amendment? | ||
| I would argue ours is. | ||
| They would argue theirs is. | ||
| And I would, again, argue they're wrong. | ||
| When you get to the point where you have to write down you can't murder people, it's because people are being murdered. | ||
| Like we have to put a sign on the fridge in the kitchen down here that says do not take an item if it's not yours. | ||
| Why did we have to do that? | ||
| I was shocked to find people were stealing food. | ||
| Who steals lunch? | ||
| Who's the fucking lunch thief? | ||
| It would open the door. | ||
| And what would happen is. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Let me tell you what happened. | ||
| We bought protein shakes. | ||
| We brought specific protein shakes for athletes that were coming, and we had like three of them. | ||
| And people showed up and said, these must be for everybody and drank them. | ||
| And then we did not have protein shakes for the athletes who requested them. | ||
| So then we said, we have to put a sign on the door that says, do not take the last item and do not take things if you've not, if you don't know who's in the middle of it. | ||
| Tim, can I ask you a question on that? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Working in corporate America, this was always an issue. | ||
| I know it's sort of funny. | ||
| I guess some people aren't married or don't have spouses who cook well and they didn't see a more appetizing lunch. | ||
| Could it be like a lunch swap program, LP? | ||
| Look, my point is this. | ||
| So there's a lot of, like, when the Ten Commandments were written down, that was literally like a significant thing. | ||
| You're reminiscing on those citibanks days too much. | ||
| You know, that was better. | ||
| It was better for society that the Ten Commandments got written down because it gives you a guideline. | ||
| You don't have to guess. | ||
| And morality is not something that just magically emerges within individuals and within societies. | ||
| It needs to be organized and dictated to a certain extent. | ||
| Do you think that people can't know what God requests of them without someone having written it down and then told them? | ||
| No, but I think that, I mean, first of all, if you want to know what God wants you to do and you ask God, like some people are going to think they get an answer and some people are going to think they don't get an answer, right? | ||
| I mean, that's a pretty amorphous way to go. | ||
| And it's not really a way to organize a society. | ||
| But if you put down all of these things in a, you know, on some stone tablets, for example, and you have a couple of different categories of how these laws work, then I think it makes a lot more sense. | ||
| Perhaps, but we can say, okay, let's look at this. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Sure, look at the First Amendment. | ||
| Blasphemy was illegal in 1789. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We didn't have free speech back then, but we wrote it down, right? | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| What matters is it's still a social advancement to have these things written down and codified and to have codified laws. | ||
| So if the First Amendment did not protect people from arrest over blasphemy, then what was the function of the First Amendment in 1789? | ||
| I'm not arguing about that. | ||
| What was the First Amendment in 1789? | ||
| We wrote down in our constitution. | ||
| It certainly was an advancement. | ||
| It certainly became an advancement over time. | ||
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| In 1789? | ||
| Why is it an advancement to have written down you have free speech when you get arrested for your speech? | ||
| Well, I think things have changed over time for sure. | ||
| What was the advancement about it? | ||
| People are released after having murdered. | ||
| What was the advancement of writing down free speech when people could still be arrested for their speech? | ||
| Because people knew what their rights were and they knew what to scream about when they were violated. | ||
| They did not because the First Amendment is unchanged, but the interpretation has changed dramatically back and forth. | ||
| And John Adams was really slammed pretty hard when he started putting into place. | ||
| Indeed, so writing it down didn't do anything. | ||
| Yes, it did because people were able to say, you can't do that. | ||
| We have the First Amendment. | ||
| And they still arrested people for blasphemy and obscenity. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And things change over time and people can fight it. | ||
| If it was ever intended as a total free-for-all, that you can just say anything. | ||
| The point is, the founding fathers said, we must have the rights to freedom of speech. | ||
| And then everyone went, of course, the ability to express your opinion on matters political is an absolute if we're going to have a new nation. | ||
| Hence, we wouldn't have had this country because the king was shutting us down. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And then someone went, I don't like Jesus. | ||
| And they're like, arrest him. | ||
| Arrest him. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| So it was not free speech. | ||
| It was what they were arguing. | ||
| They can't arrest people now. | ||
| What they had argued was the First Amendment only applied insofar as your opinion was well within the Overton window of the colonies at the time. | ||
| Well, I agree with that. | ||
| If you look back, I think the way that we've interpreted the first, the second, whatever amendment you want to bring into claim, even the 10th Amendment recently with states, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, you can go on and on on all of these, but the reality is I think culture and time also influence a lot of how we interpreted a lot of these things. | ||
| Let's just remember that these documents and these laws were written approximately 250 years ago and established to start the great idea that is the Constitutional Republic of the United States. | ||
| So the problem with it is, I mean, I'm a free speech absolutist, but I do believe we have to have guardrails and moral conscience guardrails on what we say. | ||
| For instance, the lovely, morbidly obese teacher who was doing, you know, I think that should be reprimanded. | ||
| There should be social consequences to that. | ||
| So let me tell you guys a funny story about West Virginia. | ||
| Do you know that alcohol is illegal in West Virginia completely? | ||
| Oh, it's a dry state. | ||
| It is prohibited under the Constitution. | ||
| You cannot drink alcohol. | ||
| You cannot manufacture or, I'm sorry, you can't manufacture or sell alcoholic beverages in the state of West Virginia. | ||
| Is there no alcohol here at all? | ||
| There's tons. | ||
| No, I'm saying, well, legally, can you buy it in stores? | ||
| Yeah, it's at 7-Eleven. | ||
| Now, how does this make sense? | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| Because what happened was in 1914, they said we are going to ban alcohol. | ||
| We're going to prohibit it, codified it in the Constitution of the state. | ||
| And then later on, when prohibition gets lifted, you get a bunch of politicians in West Virginia being like, but we banned it in the Constitution. | ||
| So what do we do? | ||
| We have to ratify our Constitution again. | ||
| And one member of Congress goes, actually, the Constitution says you cannot manufacture or sell intoxicating liquors. | ||
| Clearly, that doesn't mean ethyl alcohol because it's not toxic. | ||
| It just makes you bubbly. | ||
| Clearly, the intent of the Constitution was to ban wood alcohol or isopropyl alcohol, right? | ||
| Those are the intoxicating liquors. | ||
| And they went, oh, we can drink beer again. | ||
| Writing it down to the Constitution literally did nothing because the body politic of West Virginia said, now we have in beer. | ||
| And I'll get, I'll tell you this: West Virginia explicitly bans gambling. | ||
| There's a casino 15 minutes away. | ||
| Yeah, there's a Greenbrier casino. | ||
| Grainbrier has one as well. | ||
| That's not 15 minutes away. | ||
| That's a few hours. | ||
| West Virginia has five locations that were granted exempt status by the state in violation of its constitution to allow gambling. | ||
| Well, just like New York. | ||
| New York now has this huge concession. | ||
| We have three, I think, casinos: Yonkers, Catskills, and Queens, but they're just slots, right? | ||
| Oh, no, I'm sorry. | ||
| And then Jake 58 out on stuff. | ||
| It counts four downstream. | ||
| What's the Empire Empire casino? | ||
| That's Yonkers. | ||
| That's Yonkers. | ||
| And they're opening Caesars Times Square. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| Now that the state got three full casino licenses, and it was just like a nightmare, a knife race. | ||
| I think Caesar's Times Square is the worst idea. | ||
| I think it is the worst. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| The level of loitering that is going to take place in Caesar's Times Square. | ||
| It's going to reverse all of Giuliani's good. | ||
| Let me just tell you. | ||
| When they're doing Bally's Chicago on the river, I'll put it this way: it is going to literally be the epicenter of homeless drug addicts that are going to go nuts at a very Times Square, Caesars. | ||
| Dude, Times Square Crown Plaza. | ||
| I was at a cocktail party once. | ||
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| When they bring in Caesar, they're going to be cops surrounding Times Square. | ||
| They already are. | ||
| Yes, but they're getting shot. | ||
| Yeah, but it's going to get, there's going to be a heavy hammer when Caesars is put in. | ||
| Well, not if we have Jamavara Light. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| The amount of money that Caesars is going to make for the state or for the city in general and taxes, it's going to be absolutely insane. | ||
| Let the Zoro Mondami comprehend that. | ||
| That's the bigger question. | ||
| Bro, he wants to slash the NYPD, which, by the way, is down 14,000 officers since 2020. | ||
| From 47,000 to 30, let me ask you: what do you think Zoran Mondani wants? | ||
| What he wants his own personal Avana utopia in the middle of New York City, but with nine, 10 million people. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| What I see, these communists, people like Zoran, you see all these videos where he does these fake accents. | ||
| He's always talking different. | ||
| He's always saying different things. | ||
| He wants power. | ||
| So if someone says this casino is going to generate a billion dollars a year, put money in your pocket, he's going to be like, how many cops do you need? | ||
| These are the people that said defund the police. | ||
| And then when the police arrested Trump supporters, they clapped and cheered. | ||
| Well, I guess you're right because at the end of the day, then he'll have a slush fund to fund his free buses in his supermarkets in the city of the government. | ||
| But I don't think he actually cares about those things. | ||
| He's lying for power. | ||
| And just like Brandon Johnson, those things are never going to happen. | ||
| He lives in a rent-stabilized apartment and goes to $500 dinners. | ||
| So I get it. | ||
| I saw pictures of him. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| The other night on Instagram, I saw pictures from him. | ||
| $500 dinner? | ||
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| That perfectly embodies, I mean, because he's from Uganda. | ||
| He perfectly embodies the way that the third world conducts their societies. | ||
| And that's just like the truth of the matter. | ||
| Uganda. | ||
| He will do anything. | ||
| Like you read through his policy and everyone's scratching their heads. | ||
| Like, these policies don't make any sense. | ||
| I'm like, that's the point. | ||
| It's not supposed to, there's nothing cohesive. | ||
| He just cares about power. | ||
| And this is the way that third world societies are structured. | ||
| From Africa with love, my friend. | ||
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| Quite literally, it's insane. | ||
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| So it's like, oh, great job. | ||
| Or immigration policy. | ||
| Now we've imported dick like eating. | ||
| So let's zoom out. | ||
| Let's zoom out. | ||
| The problem we have right now in the United States in the culture war is that there are two distinct moral worldviews. | ||
| The two parent factions I describe, or actually I should say, quote to Stephen Marsh, who said this: the multicultural democracy and the constitutional republic. | ||
| We here all represent the constitutional republic, and the left, we would describe as the multicultural democracy. | ||
| They have an entirely different moral worldview. | ||
| I believe it's a cult, and their moral worldview is literally just marching lockstep with dear leader. | ||
| But that's the issue. | ||
| What we write down in our laws doesn't matter. | ||
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| Well, immigration, for instance, is heavily regulated and codified by Congress. | ||
| ICE goes to enforce the law, and Democrats do everything they can to obstruct that. | ||
| So Democrats are acting in, I would describe it as an insurrection or seditious conspiracy. | ||
| They're perversively interpreting the 10th Amendment to fit their agenda, right? | ||
| When they do all these state different policies of, oh, no, ICE, ice-free city. | ||
| Sanctuary cities are technically illegal in the Constitution of the United States. | ||
| The overarching document that I guess the supreme law of the land. | ||
| However, because of the 10th Amendment, they've been able to override that at state levels, like New York State, Sanctuary State. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense, though. | ||
| It also says federal law supersedes state law. | ||
| Exactly, which really tosses it away. | ||
| What does it matter? | ||
| What does it matter that we wrote down these laws and codified them as our formal system if Democrats are doing everything to stop it from happening? | ||
| They are aiding and abetting criminals. | ||
| They're creating ice trackers. | ||
| They are telling their police to arrest conservatives who oppose them. | ||
| And they're threatening to arrest police who are trying to enforce the laws we codified. | ||
| Shout out to Paul. | ||
| Not Nick Sorter for that, by the way. | ||
| if it wasn't for an extorter Portland, we wouldn't know what was going on there. | ||
| So this is the issue. | ||
| Credit to Katie Davis court from the post millennial who was covering it We are acting that too. | ||
| We are acting like we need to write down to make sure these laws are upheld. | ||
| But we all know why immigration must be enforced properly. | ||
| And even though we all wrote it down, the Democrats are saying, we don't care that you wrote it down. | ||
| We're going to do whatever we want. | ||
| Because the issue is, what will your culture accept? | ||
| That's ultimately what it comes down to. | ||
| And then when we get into the argument about, I make this question very simple. | ||
| If I go to your house and jump in through the window, would you find that to be acceptable or do you want me to go through the front door? | ||
| So when I was a congressman, I went to tour the border and I asked that to actually detainees in El Paso and San Diego. | ||
| Of course, you come in through the door. | ||
| I'm like, then why did you come through the back window of our country? | ||
| And like these guys looked at me like, oh, but you have to, I'm like, no, dude, this is my home. | ||
| What are you doing here? | ||
| Like, this is not how you come in. | ||
| And, well, you got to understand. | ||
| And I was running away from tigers in the Amazon. | ||
| I'm like, oh, there's tigers in the Amazon now. | ||
| It's just like, wild. | ||
| The most wildest thing. | ||
| Like, you can't equate this. | ||
| And they tell you, and they try to tell you all these sob stories. | ||
| I walked from Columbia to the United States. | ||
| I'm like, oh, you're one. | ||
| How long did it take? | ||
| Who told you to do this? | ||
| Like, nobody told you to do that. | ||
| Who invited you? | ||
| They're given scripts from NGOs. | ||
| I mean, of course they are. | ||
| Like, I saw it firsthand. | ||
| I was shout out to Vishburgh, who was my operations director, who literally, literally, we were there. | ||
| He's like, look, look, boss, those guys are instructing the immigrants on the other side of the fence, Americans in Mexico, funded by USAID. | ||
| Say danger and don't say anything else. | ||
| And we saw it with our own eyes. | ||
| It's just like nothing. | ||
| Well, there's this, there's this Eritrean migrant who went to Sweden. | ||
| I think it was Sweden. | ||
| He raped a girl. | ||
| He spent three years in prison for having raped her, and he wasn't deported because the Court of Appeals said that the rape didn't last. | ||
| The duration of the event was not long enough. | ||
| And so he's not being deported because he didn't rape her for long enough for it to be considered a serious crime under apparently a UN agreement from 1951. | ||
| There is more to the story because I was trying to find the details of the case that the way Sweden defines rape is not the way. | ||
| And the way we do, apparently, you got to correct me on this one because all I read was a cursory summary of it. | ||
| It said that there was no penetration. | ||
| So the rape. | ||
| It's like the Eugene Carroll version. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Like, I want to be clear here. | ||
| Apparently, she was sexually assaulted in some way that wasn't what we would describe as rape. | ||
| But you know, I said describe it some other way. | ||
| Again, he should have never been allowed in the country in the first place. | ||
| And I'm not trying to defend him. | ||
| To say a lot of people think it's like he pinned her down, and you know, well, well, there's the case in the UK. | ||
| I think it's, I'm not sure if it's Pakistani or Bangladeshi, where he actually raped a young girl, and the courts literally slapped him on the wrist and said, Well, you know, culturally, taking women by force is okay where they come from. | ||
| Like, this literally is happening. | ||
| It is insanity. | ||
| So, I wanted to say to you earlier when you said, Well, the UK doesn't have an actual constitution. | ||
| Well, we can tell. | ||
| That's why we can't even have steak knives in London. | ||
| So, it's like it's chaotic. | ||
| Like, we ought to put the laws. | ||
| What bothers me the most is when I was in Congress, I would hear people like Tony Gonzalez, Mr. Amnesty, say, Oh, I want to pass more laws. | ||
| I'm like, dude, we already have immigration laws that are not enforced. | ||
| Like, we have all these laws on the books that are not enforced, but we continuously put more, I know it's your point. | ||
| It's just infuriating because every single thing that you hear these people pander to create profiles for themselves really stems from ignorance. | ||
| We have so many members of Congress that don't even know the laws on the books. | ||
| So, here's where we are right now. | ||
| We've opposed these laws. | ||
| We, as a body politic, recognize there are bad things happening in our country and the law is not being enforced. | ||
| We tried saying, We're going to write these things down and post the sign so you all know we're going to do it. | ||
| Democrats responded with, We literally don't care what you think is illegal. | ||
| We're going to allow drugs, we're going to create injection sites, we're going to allow illegal immigrants, we're going to arrest anyone who opposes us. | ||
| And if your law enforcement comes in, we'll arrest them too. | ||
| And that's where we're currently at right now, threatening to arrest our law enforcement for enforcing the law. | ||
| Writing it down did not change the culture of the multicultural democracy. | ||
| The only thing that's going to change it is if Donald Trump, like I got to be honest, guys, looking at everything, I think the only solution is Reconstruction. | ||
| Oh, I agree. | ||
| Sending the National Guard into these blue cities and removing people from power and having new elections, rewriting this stuff. | ||
| Because you've got corruption, people are fleeing these places, and all that's left are the ignorant communists who keep empowering communists. | ||
| And we are going to have a civil war. | ||
| Let me simplify it: California goes insane. | ||
| Conservatives leave and go to Arizona. | ||
| This creates a it skews things more and more in the direction of the left because Democrats don't leave. | ||
| This guarantees the entrenchment will be further and further left, and you will get a government that is absolutely far left. | ||
| That far left government will eventually oppose your moderate American state or federal government. | ||
| Eventually, they'll threaten to arrest or harm your law enforcement or your troops who coming in. | ||
| So, what did Abraham Lincoln do? | ||
| He suspended habeas corpus. | ||
| I want to make sure everyone understands. | ||
| I got an argument with Grok, so we got to understand this, okay? | ||
| And I got an argument with Grok intentionally because these large language models are built on the corporate press narrative machine, which are intent on lying to you. | ||
| The Civil War started at Fort Sumter in, I believe it was like March of what was it? | ||
| Was it March of might have been April? | ||
| Maybe it was April, April of 1861. | ||
| A couple weeks after that, Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. | ||
| We were still not in the actual civil war. | ||
| Historically, we say Fort Sumter started it, but it was actually two months later at the first Battle of Bull Run where people were picnicking on the hillside as Confederate and Union forces were about to fight because they were like, There's no civil war. | ||
| It's just not a real thing. | ||
| So, the question then is: under what authority did Abraham Lincoln suspend habeas corpus? | ||
| He didn't, he didn't have it. | ||
| Congress retroactively voted to approve his suspension of habeas corpus two years later. | ||
| Two years. | ||
| Yeah, pro-nunk-tunk was what they had to do, which is in lieu of this in lieu of that. | ||
| Then in Latin after it would be called George Bush a whole bunch of extra powers, too. | ||
| So, my point is this, right? | ||
| Right now, Donald Trump could suspend habeas corpus, and the precedent would be the exact same as Abraham Lincoln. | ||
| I am sending troops into states that are in rebellion against federal law, and these troops are going to make sure the law is being upheld and enforced. | ||
| And we're suspending habeas corpus to protect them from saboteurs because ICE has been terrorist has been shot, shot at, they've been rammed, they've been attacked. | ||
| The pretext for Abraham Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus was the potential for sabotage from Confederate sympathizers. | ||
| Lincoln then arrested members of the Maryland legislature. | ||
| All of this before it was called the Civil War. | ||
| It wasn't until around 1863, people in this country said, We are in a civil war. | ||
| So, understand where we're at right now, where no one's calling it a civil war. | ||
| What it would look like is Trump goes on TV today and says, We have made several attempts to send in National Guard into these jurisdictions to aid our ICE law enforcement. | ||
| Here is here, eight USC 1324 clearly makes this illegal. | ||
| The American people voted for it. | ||
| We are sending in these troops. | ||
| However, far-left terrorists have been attacking our personnel, sabotaging vehicles, railroad tracks, and shooting at our law enforcement officers, ramming them in vehicles. | ||
| So we are going to suspend habeas corpus on the highways when these vehicles are in transport, meaning we can arrest you for any reason. | ||
| If he did that, it would be identical precedent to what Abraham Lincoln did when he suspended habeas corpus along the railways from Pennsylvania through Maryland into D.C. Two years after, two years later, when Trump wins, Congress will then say, we hereby vote that Trump was right to do it the whole time. | ||
| So I'll say this. | ||
| Look, I'm all for it. | ||
| I don't disagree. | ||
| I just feel like we're in a crossroads in this country where we can sit here and talk and ponder and demagogue all we want about it. | ||
| The reality is, when are we actually going to do all of these things? | ||
| Because Trump. | ||
| Well, it's not even just Trump. | ||
| It's like, will President Trump have the backing of a spineless Congress? | ||
| No, I mean, the Congress isn't doing anything. | ||
| It's really been horrifying to watch. | ||
| It's absolutely atrocious because unfortunately, and I'm saying this to the detriment some. | ||
| I mean, there's good members, but there's great members. | ||
| Look, Congress feels like a rubber stamp to the president's agenda. | ||
| That is absolutely insane to even say that. | ||
| The one big, beautiful bill just was totally the mixed agenda. | ||
| One bill. | ||
| One big, beautiful bill. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But every single president gets their marquee bill passed. | ||
| I mean, Biden did. | ||
| Obama did. | ||
| Trump did. | ||
| So he had his inflation climate. | ||
| Yeah, there's nothing. | ||
| And they're all BBBs at this point, right? | ||
| But my point is it has nothing to do with that. | ||
| That's not a rubber stamp. | ||
| A rubber stamp would be Trump calling them and saying, we're going to do martial law. | ||
| We need congressional support. | ||
| Rubber. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| He doesn't need it. | ||
| Well, he doesn't need it, but it would be, again, because then they call him a king, right? | ||
| Because he skipped the legislator. | ||
| And what did they say to Lincoln? | ||
| They're going to call him and shot him in the back. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Well, I don't want that happening to Trump, right? | ||
| Agree. | ||
| My point is Abraham Lincoln was called a dictator, a tyrant. | ||
| He was evil. | ||
| I mean, look, seven states seceded from the Union, and there were four other states that were two to one in favor of the union until Lincoln sent troops into the South. | ||
| They said, holy crap, Lincoln is a tyrant. | ||
| We are seceding to, it's out of hand. | ||
| And then Lincoln won, and he sent in the troops for Reconstruction. | ||
| So the precedent of what happened in the Civil War with all of these liberals who would also agree, Abraham Lincoln, the greatest president we've ever had. | ||
| It's like, okay, wait till you see what that looks like. | ||
| Because we can talk about this. | ||
| Here's a question for you, George. | ||
| It's not a trick question. | ||
| Oh, go ahead. | ||
| Who are the good guys in the Civil War? | ||
| To me, the Union. | ||
| Most people are going to say the Union. | ||
| Almost all are going to say the Union. | ||
| So when Sherman, so Abraham Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus, he threatened journalists with arrest. | ||
| He threatened Supreme Court justices with arrest. | ||
| He arrested members of the Maryland legislature. | ||
| He arrested northern sympathizers with the Confederacy. | ||
| He sent troops in, obviously we know he did. | ||
| He jailed members of Congress. | ||
| Members of Congress were expelled, right? | ||
| And he jailed members of Congress. | ||
| I agree with everything you're saying, right? | ||
| And then we had Sherman who marched to the sea, raising farmlands, massacring civilians, destroying railroads, making sure they couldn't eat. | ||
| And boy, if you go down south, nobody forgot Sherman. | ||
| And they're the good guys. | ||
| Slavery was bad, and the South was trying to secede. | ||
| So the scorched earth war tactics of Sherman, massacring civilians, burning down farms, raising, just destroying generations of homes, even among people who were not involved, was a necessary. | ||
| They said, you know what? | ||
| Punish them. | ||
| Make sure they feel the pain. | ||
| Well, they were setting examples, right? | ||
| Which I exactly agree. | ||
| And again, these are barbaric tactics of war, but then I always remind people when we talk about war and wartimes, what's the number one currency of war? | ||
| And everybody looks at me like, what do you mean? | ||
| Currency weapons. | ||
| I'm like, no, death. | ||
| Like, that's the number one currency. | ||
| That's the toll of war, right? | ||
| People are going to die. | ||
| So again, and tactics are in some cases. | ||
| We've heard a lot of testimony in Congress about Afghanistan and Iraq and some things that are reprehensible that were done by our troops that we have to sit here and be like, well, that's not good. | ||
| And I love our veterans and I love the fact that we're out there for a war for freedom and whatnot. | ||
| But I agree. | ||
| It's always going to be tough. | ||
| In war, we're always going to have people who, I mean, go back to World War II, there's people who think that, you know, Hitler was right. | ||
| And I think it's nuts. | ||
| When I hear that, I'm like, who? | ||
| Who thinks this was good? | ||
| And I have to debate this. | ||
| I've debated, I debated this in prison, actually, where somebody came and said, you know, Hitler wasn't too wrong. | ||
| I'm like, you're certifiable. | ||
| Stay away from me. | ||
| And the person continued to antagonize me. | ||
| And it was like this whole blown out debate. | ||
| So you're going to find crazier people who sympathize with wrong regardless. | ||
| My point is simply the only thing that needs to happen for Trump to win is Trump decides to escalate his tactics and then he has to succeed in his strategies. | ||
| After that, history is written by the victors. | ||
| Trump can route whatever he wants. | ||
| In the event Democrats decide to go full bore against Trump, which I believe they already did, and I believe they're losing. | ||
| But if they do succeed, they will just simply write that they were the good guys and they won. | ||
| The rest of us go to prison. | ||
| The Democrats will never be the greatest. | ||
| The Lightfoot thing. | ||
| Lori Lightfoot, you know, Chicago's former Democrat mayor. | ||
| Oh, Beetlejuice. | ||
| Yeah, she launched the ICE accountability project where she's calling basically to dox all ICE agents. | ||
| She's like, we're going to put up pictures of what they look like and what they're wearing and their shoes and their cars and where they live. | ||
| And then she had the nerve to say it wasn't doxing. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| But this is what she's doing. | ||
| And you also have, what was it like? | ||
| Some people in the house are putting together a website to track all ICE enforcement according to. | ||
| This is criminal. | ||
| Well, it is criminal. | ||
| And you also had the ICE Tracker app, which was removed from Google and Apple stores on the, you know, their app stores. | ||
| But now we have lawmakers actually doing this stuff. | ||
| And just to point, Tim, I don't think that the president has the stomach to do any of that stuff. | ||
| And I don't think the Republicans have the stomach for any of it either. | ||
| They certainly don't when it comes to the House. | ||
| They can't even get the government back open to well, that's not the House. | ||
| That's the Senate. | ||
| That's a Democrat. | ||
| That's all on shore. | ||
| We do. | ||
| We talk of accountability. | ||
| Who's going to hold Lori Lightfoot accountable for looking like an absolute mess, destroying Chicago? | ||
| And what is that on her head? | ||
| Is that hair? | ||
| Nobody's going to be there. | ||
| Where's the accountability there? | ||
| There's no accountability. | ||
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| November 8th. | ||
| Alex Stein, Emily Saves America, Myron Gaines, and Brian Shapiro dating in the modern era. | ||
| That's the debate. | ||
| But for now, we'll grab your rants and chats from everybody else. | ||
| CB says the left worships kindness. | ||
| If you disagree with their definition of that or think we should prioritize something else, you're a Nazi. | ||
| I don't know that kindness is the right word. | ||
| It's likeness. | ||
| Do what they say or else. | ||
| Ray Jess says, if your fantasy league team isn't pulling through for you, you can just claim that the mob bribed them to throw the game. | ||
| How do we think this will affect sports betting moving forward? | ||
| It'll clean it up, I think. | ||
| Did you see where on ESPN today they were breaking the story and on their Chiron on the bottom, they have their ESPN bet, like Chiron advertisement. | ||
| And they just took it off like in the middle of the segment, and it's just like a gray box there. | ||
| Like some PA got chewed out, like, dude, no, no, get it off! | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| I was like, all right, guys. | ||
| Shane H. Walter says, as a sports fan, we've talked about games being rigged for ages. | ||
| The NBA is not surprising. | ||
| We see how many easy baskets are missed. | ||
| Don't even get me started on the flopping like you got fouled. | ||
| Oh, everyone's talked about football for ages, too. | ||
| I watched so many conspiracy theory videos, and they say that the NFL is sports entertainment. | ||
| That's how it's actually registered, which means they're legally allowed to rig the games. | ||
| So that explains Aaron Rodgers and the Jets first, like, what, 30 seconds? | ||
| I was there for that. | ||
| That was really painful. | ||
| You were there. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Shane H. Walter says, even I will admit my beloved Astros cheated to win the World Series with the middle name of Houston. | ||
| I can't just switch teams. | ||
| Is that what happened with the Astros? | ||
| The Astros. | ||
| So typically when you're stealing signs, it just means you have someone on second base. | ||
| Well, they had a TV in the dugout and they had a trash can and they would bang on the trash can to signal signs to the batter. | ||
| So he would know. | ||
| They were watching on TV. | ||
| Yes, they're watching on TV. | ||
| So the batter would know if it's a pitch worth. | ||
| It's the first time that happened either. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's been, there's ways of stealing signs. | ||
| So did they get in trouble for that? | ||
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| Oh, as far as they didn't vacate the World Series at all. | ||
| There was another, there was another situation where, you know, how they started micing everybody who's on the field? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so people were watching the game and they could hear the coaches talking about stuff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But stealing signs has always been a thing. | ||
| That just means you have someone on second base and he's just sitting there because the catcher's signing pitches. | ||
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| But this was like egregious because you could listen back through all the broadcasts and just hear boom, boom, boom. | ||
| And then Altuve would just knock a home run. | ||
| So wild stuff. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Chad's up net says, we're a few days late, but baby girl number three was born last Saturday. | ||
| Moved to Texas from California last year, bought more guns. | ||
| Keep it up, Timcast, and crew. | ||
| We appreciate everything you do. | ||
| Oh, congrats. | ||
| Welcome to the World Patriots. | ||
| Madcap Falcon says, awesome to see one of the greatest congressmen of all time. | ||
| Question for Santos. | ||
| How many Chi-Chi's you ate in prison? | ||
| You look chunky. | ||
| Chi-Chi's? | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Jimmy Changa? | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| Look, no, actually, I lost weight. | ||
| So I do. | ||
| F you. | ||
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How is the food? | |
| The food was really bad. | ||
| I mean, you know what? | ||
| There were days that it was not descriptive, non-descriptive. | ||
| I felt like they just opened like cans of friskies and dumped it. | ||
| I'm just like, yeah, Mike. | ||
| Did you get in any fights? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like me? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I mean, sharp-tongued, like, I could get into verbal arguments. | ||
| Were there a lot of fights? | ||
| No, not really. | ||
| I was in a, I, I went to a camp, right? | ||
| So it's like Camp Cupcake. | ||
| Like, I'm not even kidding. | ||
| It's like a bunch of like white-collar whiny guys and then a bunch of like old drug dealers who've been doing so much long time that they're like at the tail end of their sentences and they're not going to mess up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like literally Camp Buttercup. | ||
| And then there was this one really eccentric Jewish guy there, which was very fun. | ||
| It wasn't you? | ||
| No, it wasn't me. | ||
| I'm ish. | ||
| So there's this actually really conservative Jewish guy there who really managed to get some guys to completely convert only to the kosher meal. | ||
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| And you didn't get the kosher meal. | ||
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I did not get it. | |
| I didn't believe you in the jail. | ||
| I just didn't want to do it. | ||
| I said, I think this is going to help with my rehabilitation going on, kosher. | ||
| So I said, let's just not do that. | ||
| But it was really bad food. | ||
| Did you have to run? | ||
| You didn't have to run with a gang. | ||
| Nobody left with you. | ||
| Oh, yeah, sure. | ||
| I joined a gang. | ||
| I thought that's what you meant at all. | ||
| I have like this tattoo. | ||
| No, that's what they do in the Touch East. | ||
| Gangs that are crazy. | ||
| Praising chocolate mousse, right? | ||
| That's what they have at Camp Cupcake. | ||
| Lucas Zora says, Mary is correct. | ||
| Laws help inform morality and morality influences laws. | ||
| Giving people a structure to base their life on is actually good. | ||
| Let me phrase it like this: I don't care for laws. | ||
| I care for God's laws. | ||
| I think that a religious moral structure is a legitimate means of writing something down. | ||
| I believe that humans getting into a room and then writing down what they think is important and matters for other people won't make the other people do what they want them to do unless they already shared the intrinsic moral worldview. | ||
| But I'm also saying that the law can influence whether or not society has those common principles. | ||
| The law teaches morality. | ||
| I think the Bible teaches. | ||
| I think Christian moral tradition teaches. | ||
| And I think the laws. | ||
| Civil law also does. | ||
| I don't agree. | ||
| I think civil law is derivative of the moral worldview. | ||
| And this is a Christian nation founded by people of a Christian moral tradition. | ||
| And if you did not have that worldview, you would not care for the laws that were written because you'd view them as others, which is what we're experiencing now. | ||
| Yeah, like in order for the Constitution to make any sense, you have to be participating in the culture in which the Constitution was written. | ||
| And that's where the breakdown comes, like with the Second Amendment. | ||
| You need to be participating in the culture around the Second Amendment with the First Amendment. | ||
| Like that's just how this works. | ||
| And it's all derivative of nothing. | ||
| We gave Liberia the American Constitution. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to be a participant in that original, like Aron McIntyre and Tucker talked about this recently, and Oron pointed to that sort of original sort of Anglo-Protestant culture as something that you kind of have to sort of bring it to Afghanistan as well. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| Vietnamese. | ||
| To the extent that we can still describe this country as having a Christian culture, it's one that's inherited, not earned by the people who enjoy it. | ||
| And we inherited laws that, of course, were written originally and codified by Christians. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Devout Christians. | ||
| And that's why I'm saying. | ||
| Enjoy the benefits of that. | ||
| And it informs what little we have left of Christian morality in this country, even among people who don't identify Christians. | ||
| I think that you could get rid of 99% of laws if everyone was actually a devout Christian. | ||
| Because the laws are already in the Bible. | ||
| There's already the teachings. | ||
| There's already what people know to follow. | ||
| I mean, historically. | ||
| We wrote down these laws, and in Dearborn, Michigan, the Muslims are still chopping off lady parts. | ||
| I mean, the Constitution was designed mostly lecturing the government rather than the people. | ||
| I mean, this is obviously because it stems from like the Magna Carta and like when the Magna Carta was established, that was more putting restrictions on the king because like in pre-Norman English society. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| It was very like free-for-all. | ||
| All right, the point, the point being that when the founding fathers were like, we all agree we have a right to free speech, you, government, you can't infringe upon it. | ||
| Clearly, we don't mean blasphemy, though. | ||
| They didn't write down, they didn't mean blasphemy. | ||
| So the point is, we wrote these laws derivative of the Christian moral tradition. | ||
| And that's why these laws don't matter to people in Dearborn, Michigan, because they're Islamic. | ||
| They follow Sharia. | ||
| So you've got all these stories of young girls getting their, you know, female circumcision is a problem in these areas. | ||
| You've got Sharia patrols. | ||
| They don't care what our laws say, and Democrats don't either. | ||
| If they don't share the moral tradition of Christianity, they're literally going to be like, you can write down whatever you want. | ||
| And here's a better way to Sharia patrols in New York City, by the way. | ||
| It's certainly. | ||
| But here's a better way to put it. | ||
| There's also just, let me ask you guys a question. | ||
| If the town you live in, Mary, it's like passed a law. | ||
| Mary, if the town you live in passed a law saying women weren't allowed to go outside without being accompanied by a man anymore and you had to wear a burqa, would you agree with that law and say, okay, or would you be like, no. | ||
| What would it mean for me to say no? | ||
| Go outside and walk around and do whatever you want. | ||
| Defy the law and then get arrested. | ||
| Maybe you'd get arrested or maybe they'd ticket you. | ||
| But you'd be would you defy the law in any way, regardless of the consequences? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| But they wrote it down. | ||
| Why isn't that informing you? | ||
| Like, why wouldn't you wait? | ||
| What I mean is, you know, historically, in, and you're right, that when people share the same religious foundation that informs their morality, they don't need to be policed. | ||
| And it's mostly self-enforced. | ||
| But historically, in societies mostly comprised of devout believing Christians, they still did codify Christian morality into law. | ||
| And it still mattered that they codified it. | ||
| So the issue that the way I see it is, largely it was not in smaller communities as their morality was already informed by the Bible and the community was small enough to where they basically knew what you could and couldn't get away with. | ||
| As society started growing and becoming when society got big, they said we're going to start writing things down, Congress, things like that. | ||
| But everyone still largely agreed with the gist of it. | ||
| That's why I say 95% of the laws because there's certainly there's like property rights and how tall can your sign be? | ||
| These are very, these are getting in the weeds. | ||
| But when you started going multicultural, writing things down did not matter. | ||
| Writing the law down to inform morality, the point where I disagree with it is the ideas of what is the true moral worldview we have come from the Christian world tradition. | ||
| Whether any atheist wants to agree or not, it doesn't matter because it's a fact. | ||
| We have a Christian world tradition. | ||
| Our amendments are rooted in things like Blackstone's formulation, the precedent set by Christians and the teachings of the Bible. | ||
| And you don't have to be a Christian to follow those things. | ||
| However, we then start getting multicultural society. | ||
| When we wrote these laws down, like your flag can only be 20 feet high, it was because people of the shared moral worldview were like, okay, I get it. | ||
| If I want to challenge this, here's the process by which we settle our disagreements and what we can or can't do pertaining to certain laws. | ||
| So we ban some things, we ban some other things, we say, okay, right? | ||
| That's minutia of morality. | ||
| That is not the overarching moral worldview. | ||
| Now you're bringing in Asian cultures, Middle Eastern cultures. | ||
| Islam is a great example. | ||
| And their moral worldview is so far at odds with the Christian world tradition, they're like, we literally don't care what you write down. | ||
| We will not follow that. | ||
| They understand we are telling these people, we, as the Constitutional Republic of America, will lock you up and throw away the key if you violate what we've written down. | ||
| So their response is, make sure they don't catch you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, even beyond just the Christian, because we're introducing two pieces to the recipe here: the Christian component and whatnot. | ||
| But even like you said, Liberia is an example. | ||
| I mean, Liberia is a predominantly Christian country. | ||
| So there has to be that cultural element is like absolutely necessary in combination with each other. | ||
| With the Christian combination. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| So it's like America fundamentally is like a Western country. | ||
| So it's like the Christian, it is true that is part of the recipe, but it has to be in combination with the cultural background of the people as well, or it won't work. | ||
| I mean, Liberia, exhibit A. And same, like Kenya. | ||
| I mean, Kenya inherited pretty much all of theirs from Britain, and they're fundamentally different from Britain, not anymore, but they used to be fundamentally different from Britain. | ||
| Let's grab some more of your chats and carry in the conversation. | ||
| Melania Mama says, heard a theory that the droning of these boats is not about narco-terrorism or regime change. | ||
| Iran and China are running operatives out of Venezuela. | ||
| They plan to activate cells in the U.S. when they're ready to take Taiwan in 2027. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Oh, that's a theory I actually espoused when I was still in the house because of the immigration. | ||
| So many Chinese nationals at the border. | ||
| It strikes me odd because they don't have a hard time getting visas to come here in China. | ||
| They don't actually need to come here illegally. | ||
| The fact that they're coming in here illegally, they were trying to be undetected, just like we've learned throughout the years that they like to be undetected in here to activate. | ||
| And I concur with that. | ||
| I don't think it's a conspiracy. | ||
| I think that's a fact. | ||
| And I just think it's a matter of time that we're going to learn the fact and it's going to be very uncomfortable. | ||
| And I love the fact that it's going to be Joe Biden's legacy that we're going to have to fix. | ||
| If you support the president drone striking these narco-terrorist boats off the coast of I wish he would hire me to do the operation. | ||
| I'd sit in a control room playing like, what's the name of that game back, like that very old game that like you would shoot? | ||
| Whatever, that you would shoot. | ||
| Battleship. | ||
| Not battleship. | ||
| I'm saying the little shooter that you shoot aliens. | ||
| A galligator. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I would sit there in a control room literally playing alien invader, shooting every well. | ||
| I made this game. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I'm gonna. | ||
| I'm 21% of Americans support this cartel action. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| I'm shocked it's not 100. | ||
| I gotta, I gotta, I have to wait to the uncensored portion of the show to explain my video game to former representative Santos. | ||
| Yeah, you'll enjoy it. | ||
| So give us, give us eight minutes. | ||
| Let's read some more. | ||
| Dr. Rick says, $5,000 head-to-head Texas holding between you and me with a one-time $5,000 reload here in Yonkers on a Friday night, live broadcasted on your podcast. | ||
| It'll be an education in how to play poker. | ||
| I'm going to say no. | ||
| Don't go to Yonkers. | ||
| I'm going to say no. | ||
| I'm going to say no for a couple of reasons. | ||
| It's not called head-to-head. | ||
| It's called Heads Up. | ||
| And I guess reload is technically correct, but you could say rebuy. | ||
| So I'll let that one slide, I suppose. | ||
| But when you didn't say heads-up match, I fear that you may only think you're good at poker. | ||
| Don't go to Yonkers. | ||
| Heads up feels like a different game than heads up is what it's called when it's only two players. | ||
| Yeah, it feels different than like very different. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| I actually love playing heads up. | ||
| Oh, I don't. | ||
| It's a much more, much more difficult. | ||
| I'm not used to the ranges. | ||
| Heads up. | ||
| You play cards? | ||
| I fall short of the glory of God. | ||
| So yes, I'm not. | ||
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You literally patronized us for an entire moment of this. | |
| You play cards. | ||
| You should do better. | ||
|
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Shut up. | |
| You should be better than me. | ||
|
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Actually, shut up. | |
| This dude literally busted our chops for like a solid 20 minutes of this show to only turn around and say he plays cards. | ||
| You are so full of say. | ||
| Oh, I didn't say I don't play poker line. | ||
| Wait, it's a skill game. | ||
| Record deep. | ||
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Walk away. | |
| It's not rules for D, but nothing. | ||
| It's a game of skill, actually, Santos. | ||
| Can you build us a parlay for tonight? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't do. | ||
| I only do skill-based games. | ||
| No blackjack. | ||
| I am so mad at you right now. | ||
| I'm just kidding there, Dr. Rick. | ||
| I don't think I want to play. | ||
| So I played the World Poker Tour stream. | ||
| I'm getting invited. | ||
| I'm a pro poker player now. | ||
| I get invited to these games, but I don't like playing high-stakes poker. | ||
| So they reached out and they said they want to play a 5'10 game that's $5, $10 big blinds. | ||
| And then I said, What's the max buy? | ||
| And I said, There isn't one. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, I'm not going to sit down at the table where a guy puts 20 grand in front of me. | ||
| And like, I'm not playing. | ||
| And so they said, okay, we'll do five. | ||
| How's five grand sound? | ||
| And even then, I'm like, I guess. | ||
| I ended up losing $7,000. | ||
| I just ran as miserably as possible. | ||
| And I called shenanigans that they put Doug Paul to my left. | ||
| But that I'm just kidding about. | ||
| But now I got invited to a 2550 game. | ||
| Do you know what that is? | ||
| They think you're their whale. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| Oh, bro. | ||
| I'm tiny compared to these players. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Dude, I got invited to a game in Vegas, a show with pros, and their buy-ins are going to be like $25,000. | ||
| And they're like, you could buy in for $5 or $10. | ||
| I'm like, I'm not playing a game that big, dude. | ||
| I usually play 2.5. | ||
| 2.5 is my game. | ||
| It's not the lowest stakes, but it's basically second lowest at any poker room. | ||
| And usually you buy in for like $1,000 or $2,000. | ||
| So it can be big bets, but it's a stable game. | ||
| Low stakes is insanity. | ||
| You know, the thing about poker that frustrates me is it's so easy to intimidate somebody on a bluff. | ||
| You described it perfectly earlier. | ||
| The thing I like about blackjack is I sit at the bare minimum stakes table, $50 minimum hands, but I play like an absolute 50. | ||
| Well, we got 15 out here, bro. | ||
| Well, I'm saying I play high limits because of the hand shuffle. | ||
| Less decks, you only get six decks instead of eight decks. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So your odds are, what, 104 cards less. | ||
| Edges lower for the house. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But I'm not. | ||
| I'm betting like an absolute animal. | ||
| And for me, I just find like the risk reward is better and you get a better bang for your buck when you're playing. | ||
| So I will say, if you're going to play, like roulette's a really great example. | ||
| I love roulette. | ||
| It's so toxic. | ||
| MGM has, if you go to MGM National Harbor, they have triple zero. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| Do not play that game. | ||
| It's a waste of money. | ||
| Because your minimum bet is going to be, I think, probably $100 inside or outside. | ||
| But if you go to the high limit room, your minimum bet is $200, single zero. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Meaning you've got like European roulette. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it used to be American until they were like, hey, we can put extra numbers in here and rip people off and they will just keep playing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So triple zero is nuts. | ||
| Yeah, that MGM sign on the wheel like throws me off because then it changes the orders of how you play your numbers and the neighbors. | ||
| So again, relentlessly. | ||
| And if that's a great drunk game. | ||
| If you're not familiar with triple zero and you go to MGM, they've got zero, double zero, MGM. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And you might think it's an emblem. | ||
| And then it lands on the MGM. | ||
| You're like, wait, what happened? | ||
| And they're like, you lose. | ||
| And you're like, that's a bet. | ||
| That happened to me. | ||
| My birthday in 2023, we celebrated and everybody decides, well, we haven't partied enough. | ||
| It's 11 o'clock at night. | ||
| Let's just go to MGM. | ||
| And I fell exactly for that. | ||
| Me and a bunch of people fell first. | ||
| We didn't realize it. | ||
| I see a ton of people go like, oh, wait, I thought it was an emblem. | ||
| And not to mention, you're betting completely off, right? | ||
| Because you think you're betting your numbers on your neighbors and you're just not. | ||
| I changed the order of the wheel. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| What do we got here? | ||
| Pumpkin Spice says, Tim, what would your advice be for someone looking to get into poker? | ||
| I know the basics of the game and could afford to play with $100 of your thoughts. | ||
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The first thing I would say is. | |
| You'll make fun of people like that. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| Here, Tim will explain why that's dumb. | ||
| No, what? | ||
| The first thing I'd say is download the World Series of Poker app. | ||
| It's free. | ||
| It's a no-stakes game. | ||
| So they give you fake chips to play with, and then you can play. | ||
| I'd then recommend you watch Lodge Live Stream Poker and Hustler Casino live poker. | ||
| However, they play a little wild on those shows intentionally to make them entertaining. | ||
| I would recommend watching Triton series or like WPT tournament events and the World Series tournament events so you can see how people are playing, the things they're doing. | ||
| You need to watch a lot. | ||
| I wouldn't recommend sitting down with $100, having not done any of those things. | ||
| If you have a ton of money, the fast and easiest way to learn is sit at a table. | ||
| Because theoretically, if you go to a casino, it's a 1-2 game or 1-3. | ||
| Every orbit, maybe, I don't know, that could take 20 minutes. | ||
| You're going to have to put in $1, or you're going to put in $2, then $1, but you don't have to put any other money in if you don't want to. | ||
| Theoretically, you could be on the big blind and just accidentally win and take it down. | ||
| Sometimes the blinds will chop because nobody chooses to play. | ||
| And you can get a feel for the terminology, the rules, what people are saying. | ||
| And to a certain degree, people will try to help you because more players is always better for the game and they won't rip you off so long as you choose not to put money in the middle. | ||
| I would just say play free online versions first, which is not really going to teach you a lot about how advanced strategy is, but you will at least understand the basics of like, oh, I got an ace and a three, and you'll start to learn. | ||
| If you do want to play with $100, you're in a very weak position. | ||
| Typically, $100 is the lowest buy-in for any card room. | ||
| And when you are low, it's called short stacked, and you're basically going all in whenever you decide to make a bet, which it's not very fun. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| Then there's also Deep Stack, where you have a massive amount of money relative to the blinds. | ||
| And I'm not a big, big fan of that, but there is a lot more room for strategy. | ||
| Here's basically what's going to happen: you're going to look down at a good hand. | ||
| Maybe you have Ace Queen suited. | ||
| And so you're playing a one-two game. | ||
| You say, I'll bet $10. | ||
| Someone then goes, I'm going to raise to $50. | ||
| Well, your only option then is to call or go all in. | ||
| You know, you don't have a lot of options at that point. | ||
| So you're basically playing for $100. | ||
| You're like, I got Ace Queen. | ||
| I'm all in. | ||
| Who wants to flip for it? | ||
| And then there's no real strategy involved. | ||
| You're just, it's called flipping. | ||
| So study. | ||
| Always important. | ||
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All right. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| Scott House says, George would be a fun regular on the cast. | ||
| More Santos, please. | ||
| George is always welcome to come back. | ||
| Where are you based out of? | ||
| For now, New York. | ||
| Okay, well, come back whenever you want. | ||
| Probably not staying there. | ||
| Not with Nami on. | ||
| Do you know Milo? | ||
| Are you friends with Milo? | ||
| Yiannopoulos? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I play the fifth. | ||
| No, I love Milo. | ||
| I love Milo. | ||
| I was just saying, like. | ||
| An episode with me and him would be chaotic, though. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Very chaotic. | ||
| I was like, we should have you and Milo on because it would just be a cacophony of. | ||
| Do you know who would be fun too? | ||
| Well, if we're doing that, then that would be fun. | ||
| But another person that I think who literally texted me said he was here, but it was the day your daughter was born, so he didn't get to meet you. | ||
| It's Kevin Smith, a buddy of mine from Long Island. | ||
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Oh, right on. | |
| Loves you. | ||
| Very good friend of mine. | ||
| Shout out to Kevin who's watching. | ||
| But yeah, I'd love to come back. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Everybody, smash the like button, share the show. | ||
| We're going to the Rumble Uncensored Show over at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL. | ||
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| And ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow, we are trying an experiment. | ||
| We're going to pre-record the show because it's Friday night. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Friday nights usually have slightly lower viewership because it's Friday night. | ||
| People are going out and doing stuff. | ||
| And then people will watch Saturday morning, Sunday morning, and Monday morning. | ||
| And we can see it actually breaks up over the weekend. | ||
| Additionally, there's no news breaking late on Fridays for the most part. | ||
| When people bury stories, it'll be sometime in the afternoon. | ||
| So we thought, okay, well, how do we, what can we do to maximize efficiency? | ||
| Pre-record, premiere it at the normal time for everybody else, but for our Discord members, backstage pass. | ||
| What we're going to do is basically, as we're doing pre-production setting up, everything we're saying as we're gearing up for the show will be audible to the Discord members who will be able to then ask questions because as a pre-record, we won't be taking super chats. | ||
| We'll be taking Discord member commentary and questions. | ||
| And I assure you, the hour of pre-production is a show unto itself. | ||
| And sometimes I'm like, we should have recorded all of that. | ||
| So now we're doing the Friday backstage pass for our Discord members. | ||
| It's going to be a lot of fun. | ||
| And then that means you get to watch the show early if you so choose, but it will air premiered at the normal time as the show normally does. | ||
| So follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
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| George, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| George, Mr. Santos NY on X, and make sure you go on cameo. | ||
| I just got Tim to join Cameo, so make sure you get your cameos. | ||
| And I said, I'm charged. | ||
| I said, I'll join, but I'm going to charge a lot of money because no, he's not. | ||
| He's going to lure it, I promise you. | ||
| I'm at Timcast on cameo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How did no one take that? | ||
| I think it's because you can't. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You have to be the talent. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Unless you're like an impersonator and then it's like a Tim Cass impersonator. | ||
| Eric, there is one charging $10. | ||
| Doesn't look like him. | ||
| It's not Tim. | ||
| Can people impersonate me? | ||
| I'm a hard guy to impersonate. | ||
| Well, I mean, this dude put a beanie on and thinks he looks like you. | ||
| So maybe it worked. | ||
| I might try it out. | ||
| I got to tell George about the video game that I made. | ||
| But we'll do that after we finish here. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Guys, thanks for tuning in. | ||
| I'm Alada Liyahu, Whitehouse correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| Mr. Santos, thank you so much for dropping in. | ||
| Great to see you again. | ||
| It's been a minute. | ||
| Oh, we'll get into it on the after show. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Oh, this is what you were talking about doing in Venezuela, I think. | ||
| So here's my George, here's my video game I want everyone to watch. | ||
| It's called Alien Invader, and you play the little white cube, and you have to shoot the little brown cubes that are trying to get past you. | ||
| Look at assuming behind you, it's the U.S. border. | ||
| Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| These are aliens. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Aliens are getting faster. | ||
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I'm going to put sombreros on them. | |
| Hey, hey, this is Alien Invader. | ||
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I found a little white black. | |
| So here's what's funny: if you show this game to like any liberal, they instantly, like, it took you guys two seconds to be like, hey, wait a minute, the aliens are brown. | ||
| But Gemini was like, this sounds fun. | ||
| Like, if you tell Gemini to do racist things, it won't do it. | ||
| They're just so innocent, the computers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those clankers. | ||
| So you created this game. | ||
| I literally just made it right now. | ||
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About five minutes ago. | |
| Five minutes ago, I typed in, make a game called Alien Invader, where you move a small white cube left and right spacebar shoots up at aliens, and the aliens are little brown blocks. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I hate AI. | ||
| I hate AI. | ||
| It's making everything. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I went to high school without AI, and I'm proud of that. | ||
| I'm very proud. | ||
| So did I. I'm very proud. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That makes me unknow, though. | ||
| We should have Alien Invader contests here. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I concur. | ||
| George, this is totally off topic, but I loved your Z-Way interview. | ||
| Oh, everybody did, right? | ||
| Do you know what I love about that interview, though? | ||
| It was like fresh out of Congress, and she had editing on her side. | ||
| It's her show, right? | ||
| Oh, I can't stand the way she does her guests so dirty editing on her side. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She still did not do well against me. | ||
| No, no, she didn't. | ||
| You really were one of the very few people to upstage. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not Drew Barrymore. | ||
| I'm not kneeling to you and asking for forgiveness. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You could let Drew Barrymore do that for everyone else. | ||
| Z-Way loves that shit. | ||
| She loves it. | ||
| I love doing it. | ||
| Do you know what's my favorite troll of that day? | ||
| So she loves to talk about like, oh, forgiveness or like the black people and all of that because you've enslaved us, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I showed up wearing a all-black designer outfit and she was wearing Galiano. | ||
| I said, way to go for supporting black people, Z-Way. | ||
| I'm not gay enough to know who this is. | ||
| Who's Z-Way? | ||
| Okay, first of all. | ||
| Or am I not black enough? | ||
| Is that who it is? | ||
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You know what? | |
| She has this talk show where she tries to verbally corner people. | ||
| And usually she loves having white guests who have like super bad white guilt. | ||
| She made Drew Barry more kneeling. | ||
| She likes to emphasize those awkward pauses and like thing. | ||
| She loves to kneel and cry. | ||
| She did, she kneels obsessed with like caressing Bride at Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Really weird. | ||
| Maybe she didn't cry, but she was definitely on her knees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh-huh. |
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