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IRAN WAR: Trump THREATENS Iran To EVACUATE NOW, Mobilizes Military | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Donald Trump has threatened Iran.
He said now everybody should evacuate or said everyone should evacuate to Iran now.
Iran should have taken the deal.
Videos have been circulating over the past week or so of people fleeing the city.
We have video today of what appears to be one of their news channels being struck by Israeli airstrikes live on the air.
We've also got reports of the U.S. mass-mobilizing jets and refueling tankers into the region, with many people speculating the U.S. is preparing to engage directly in this conflict.
Donald Trump, as it has been announced, he'll be leaving the G7 early after a meeting with the world leaders, prepping the situation room, going back to D.C., and it seems like, ladies and gentlemen, we may be in war with Iran shortly.
And I don't know for sure.
There's a lot of ways to speculate on this, and I've certainly got my opinions, but we're going to break through the news and show you what's currently going on based on what he said.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Bradley Devlin.
bradley devlin
Thanks, guys.
Thanks for having me.
I'm Bradley Devlin.
I'm politics editor at The Daily Signal, host of The Signal Sit-Down podcast, and a contributing editor at The American Conservative.
Thanks, Tim.
tim pool
Right on.
We got Shane hanging out.
shane cashman
What's up, Bradley?
Good to have you back.
bradley devlin
Thank you.
shane cashman
I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live.
I will be running out of this studio around 9.40 to go live at 10 o 'clock p.m. to break down psyops coming out of Minnesota, as well as strange sounds coming from below Antarctica.
And phone lines will be open until 12 a.m.
tim pool
Open calls.
shane cashman
Yep.
tim pool
Open calls.
People can call in and talk about whatever.
shane cashman
We've had Bigfoot stories, abduction stories, brainwash stories, spirits, you name it, werewolves.
libby emmons
We need the secrets.
You're digging into that weird Antarctica thing?
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
I just did a lot of Antarctica last week, so this is a good update.
libby emmons
I was doing a rabbit hole on that.
bradley devlin
Clear the decks.
We're talking cryptids only now.
tim pool
What's going on in Antarctica?
shane cashman
Well, last week I broke down a lot of Operation High Jump and stuff like that.
tim pool
Just that stuff.
shane cashman
Just that stuff.
It just so happens that yesterday, scientists have been hearing strange sounds from below the ice in Antarctica.
tim pool
It's Cthulhu.
shane cashman
Oh, it could be.
So if you're in Antarctica, please call in.
Hi, Libby.
libby emmons
Hi, Shane.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm hanging out.
Glad to be here.
I'm with the Postmillennial and Humanevents.com.
phil labonte
How are you doing, everybody?
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
You know, I do want to mention, too.
I felt like considering the gravity of the news with Trump that we would just go straight for this big, potentially historical news.
But there are a bunch of stories that I think are also important.
You had organizers for the No Kings protest firing into a crowd, killing an innocent guy, and the police arrested one of the guys who got shot at, which is weird.
You've got the Minnesota, as what Shane was just mentioning, this assassin and all the weird stuff around him.
There's weird stuff going on, but we're going to get into this news first because this is massive.
We have this story from the Post Millennial.
Trump urges immediate evacuation of Tehran.
Postmanial reports President Trump warned on Monday evening that everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran, Iran's capital city.
This comes as Israel and Iran have traded strikes over the weekend.
Trump said, Iran should have signed the deal I told them to sign.
What a shame.
And waste of human life.
Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
I said it over and over again.
Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran.
Now we have this video, which is reportedly from now, but there have been videos of this going on for a while.
Footage of Tehran's highway showing people leaving the city in droves.
So you can see the highway is lit up.
We also have this video, which is a strike that occurred.
Now it's not graphic or anything like that, so just, you know, you're being pre-warned that it's not graphic.
But this shows an active strike on Iranian television.
unidentified
Check this out.
tim pool
Did you hear that as well?
libby emmons
I heard that as well, yeah, in Haifa, in the northern part of the country.
tim pool
And now we have this from Lawrence Jones.
He says, I've been informed that President at POTUS will have dinner with the heads of state of the G7 nations and immediately depart for Washington.
He has requested the National Security Council be prepared in the Situation Room.
So it would seem, ladies and gentlemen, that a war is coming.
Check this out from Times of Israel.
U.S. appears to be deploying a large number of aerial refueling tankers across the Atlantic.
I believe the number is upwards of 30 refueling tankers.
Now, these are important for Western fighter jets that can't make the trip from Israel to Iran.
They'll have to refuel in midair on their return flight.
So they go in, they engage in airstrikes, turn around, meet up with these refueling tankers, get refueled, and come back.
Or maybe before.
But this is...
Of course, we have this tweet.
Ellie Alfred says, Madness, within minutes of Trump's tweets, dozens of U.S. planes on their way to the Middle East.
So I'm not entirely sure.
This is disguised as a former IDF soldier.
And we can see this chart appearing to show the flight paths of many jets moving in.
It looks like these may be.
I don't know if these are refueling tankers or what's going on.
But I'm going to go ahead and say I think the U.S. is about to get involved in this war.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that's pretty clear.
shane cashman
That's terrible.
I think you're right.
This is terrible.
I think this is against his base.
There's a lot of people on Fox News who want it.
phil labonte
So it doesn't seem like there's going to be strikes carried out by the U.S. It seems like they're looking to play a support role.
shane cashman
I think that's bad enough.
phil labonte
There are B2s that are, I guess, stationed somewhere in the Indian Ocean, I believe.
I'm not sure what other bombers.
But there's not, you know, I mean, obviously there's three carriers, so, you know, they've got plenty of F-18s and stuff like that.
shane cashman
I think something's certainly happening.
I really wish it wouldn't happen.
But this is the pattern of American war.
We have a destabilized nation, which, you know, we are just now still coming out of the lockdowns, which mutilated this country and the rest of the world.
And just like after the Great Depression, we went to war.
And I think it's happening again.
tim pool
We also have the Nimitz is deploying.
And the interesting thing about this is that it was scheduled to be deployed, but it is now deploying early into the Indo-Pacific.
And it's scheduled for decommission next year.
shane cashman
That's interesting.
tim pool
So, conspiracy brother.
shane cashman
I think it's too on the nose.
I think they're feeding us these things to be like, it's going to be another false flag.
phil labonte
I think there's another false flag coming.
shane cashman
So what is the implication of a vessel that is one year from decommissioned heading into Even though that second one, Gulf of Tonkin, wasn't actually hit.
They could say that.
Or hit it themselves.
tim pool
I agree with you.
It feels too on the nose.
But, of course, the conspiracy theory is that we're sending in a ship we're about to decommission because we don't need it anymore.
And so it's going to get attacked by Iran.
And then we're like, oh, geez, we had to join this war.
bradley devlin
What else is happening right now?
What is it called?
Oh, the one big beautiful bill?
phil labonte
Yeah.
bradley devlin
That provides about $200 billion to reinvigorate U.S. defense.
And what is the other process?
tim pool
The trillion dollar military spending bill, isn't it?
bradley devlin
Oh, and then the other process that we're involved in, an appropriations package.
tim pool
Indeed.
libby emmons
Yeah, lots of money.
Lots of money to get thrown at this whole thing.
A lot of people make a lot of money.
I'm pretty opposed to war entirely.
I've been watching this along with the rest of you guys trying to figure out what's going on.
Trump was very vocal about not getting us into any new wars.
He's really been, and of course in his first term, no new wars.
He's really been skating quite the line on this, right?
Like not saying that he's bad.
Like, they've been planning to do this very thing.
You have Netanyahu all weekend saying, you know, first he was coming out and saying that Iran tried to assassinate Trump, which was very clearly a, so come join us in this war thing.
Today he was talking about how Iran hates America, which, like, as we mentioned pre-show, we know, right?
We know that.
But my impulse here is to really hope and pray and trust that the president has America's best interests at heart.
And that is what I am hoping.
I do not necessarily know what that means.
I do think it's important to...
I don't think that it's great for the U.S. to get involved in bombing Iran or anything like that.
I have a lot of doubts about this.
We were talking about Israel's need for U.S. bunker busters in order to get to the Fordow deep underground nuclear facility that they want to attack.
Now, Israel could get it anyway.
They just want our stuff to do it because it would be more expedient.
tim pool
But the question with war with Iran, as you said, I hope Trump has America's best interest at heart.
libby emmons
Depends on what those interests are.
tim pool
What if it's in America's best interest in terms of unipolar global dominance or petrodollar supremacy?
libby emmons
Right.
These are questions.
And then, of course, you go back to, remember Donald Rumsfeld?
Remember that documentary with Donald Rumsfeld?
And he was like, well, who do you want?
You want somebody else to be in charge?
tim pool
Do you want communist China to be the unipolar power?
libby emmons
Right.
Yeah, that's not what I'm looking for either.
And then if Iran does attain nuclear weapons, then who else is going to attain nuclear weapons?
Because they're certainly just going to share and sell it.
tim pool
Yep.
I think the greatest concern with Iran getting a nuke is not that Iran's going to strike anybody, which is the stupidest.
I got to be honest, when Israel's coming out and even people in the U.S. and they're like, Iran's going to get a nuke and they're going to get you.
Like, bro, they're not going to be able to build a missile rocket that's going to reach the United States.
But it is going to get into the hands of some wackaloon crazy-ass people.
libby emmons
And didn't we look at a map?
tim pool
Like the Houthis.
bradley devlin
If that were to happen, Persia gets turned into glass.
I believe that the nuclear program in Tehran was for ultimately the purpose or at least the facade of...
of attaining a nuclear weapon but ultimately the nuclear program is their best piece of leverage I learned from what happened to Saddam they will learn from what happened to Gaddafi errors wars of choice that the United States undertook and their whole strategy I think here is to move slowly but surely towards that nuclear bomb in order to create right leverage because if they do attain the nuclear bomb then you have
A North Korea the size of Western Europe in the middle of Eurasia.
That's what you have.
You're going to make yourself a pariah.
You're not going to be negotiating with the Chinese and the Russians to the same degree or be a participant in global affairs to the same degree as they are now.
And so I don't think the justification of a denuclearized Iran is enough.
I think it would be wise for policymakers in the United States right now to think about how they're actually going to talk to the public about this war.
Because everyone's posting on Twitter.
Actually, if you look at polls, people are really supportive of striking Iran if it means preventing a nuclear weapon.
Trust polls.
Yeah, trust the polls.
But people were really having a...
libby emmons
Which turned out to be fake.
bradley devlin
Which turned out to be fake, and Bush was underwater a year later on the war.
And so what we need to start talking about now is what is the plan?
Iran is a Shia-majority country.
There's not many of them.
Iran has 90 million people.
That is bigger than Iraq.
Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya combined, plus another Afghanistan on top of that.
As I said, it's as big as Western Europe.
So, are we okay with the Mullahs and the Ayatollah retaining control of Iran if we go in there with B-2 bombers and blow up Fordow and decapitate their nuclear program?
And guess what?
If we're not, who's going to take the Ayatollah's place?
Because I was promised from the neocons for years that if this happens, within 48 hours, people were going to be in the streets demonstrating and demanding the Ayatollah's head.
That hasn't happened.
The only demonstrations that we saw in Iran over the weekend were people demanding retribution against the Israelis for carrying out these strikes and the United States, too.
So we can't forget that.
So, so...
Is this another Syria 2.0?
Does this let an Islamic state grow its head?
tim pool
It's just grazier than Syria.
People don't understand how big Iran is.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
They don't understand.
bradley devlin
And look at the topography there, Tim.
tim pool
Mall mountains.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's crazy.
I think the likely scenario, Trump supporters largely do not want war with Iran.
But Trump does have his key influencer base that are very culty.
Not all of them, but many of them.
Here's my prediction.
U.S. military naval forces are going to go to guard the Strait of Hormuz.
They're going to try and keep it open.
They're going to say, we're not getting involved in this.
There will be an attack on our vessels or whatever.
bradley devlin
Probably not by the Iranians, by the Houthis most likely.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe.
Who knows?
All that matters is that they come out on TV and say U.S. men and women in uniform have been attacked by Iran.
We were trying to maintain the Strait of Hormuz to keep it open because this is also Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Oman.
We can't allow Iran to shut down trade for all of these nations.
They attacked us.
We have no choice.
You've already got the narrative.
Netanyahu has been saying this.
Iran's trying to kill Trump.
I am fairly certain.
The moment Trump comes out and says, we cannot allow our brave men and women in uniform to be attacked by a foreign adversary.
We are simply trying to maintain trade, but they have invoked our ire by attacking our good people.
I wouldn't be surprised if even men and women in uniform die.
Trump's base is going to, on a dime, say, yep, Trump's right.
They're going to go right for it.
bradley devlin
And the left comes back.
shane cashman
I think a certain amount of his base.
I think the base is going to fracture.
tim pool
It's already fractured.
shane cashman
I'm watching it fracture big time today.
It's been happening.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
Doesn't it seem to be mostly the people that were pro-DeSantis are now happy with Trump's saber-rattling?
libby emmons
They're happy with the war thing.
tim pool
They're like, we like what Trump is doing now.
I wonder how long a show like this can last when we are anti-intervention.
Back in the day, in like the Bush era, the only voices you heard were pro-Iraq war, pro-Afghanistan war, because the media was controlled.
If you wanted to appear as a personality, you either were the select, low-charisma anti-war activist, so you can feign the opposition or make them look stupid, or you were basically just – you agree with the war to varying degrees.
Now you've got a show like this, which is decently large, and we're all relatively – now we shouldn't be involved in this.
bradley devlin
Can I say Pat Buchanan is a patriot?
Who saw all this coming.
tim pool
He called for Tulsi Gabbard to be national security advisor back in the first Trump administration.
bradley devlin
And, you know, he founded the magazine that I used to work for and am a contributing editor at now, and he was called an unpatriotic conservative.
There was pieces in the Weekly Standard and in the public interest and in National Review attacking these people for not getting on board with taking out Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
And these people, when they're riled up in these warlike passions—I mean, we've seen the bloodlust on social media.
I mean, it's gross.
Clip of that news agency, of course, it's state TV, in Iran, getting blown up, saying, how awesome is this?
Look at this little terrorist mouthpiece getting blown up.
It's terrifying.
It's horrifying to think that.
And if they get whipped up like this, I mean, people are going to lose their careers.
They're gonna lose their careers over accusations of being a traitor.
They're gonna lose their careers to being called anti-Semitic.
They're gonna lose their careers for not going along with the propaganda.
And guess what?
At the end of the day, we're still going to have an incredibly destabilized Middle East if we go through with a regime change war in Iran.
tim pool
Let's jump to this.
We got this from Deadline.
Donald Trump takes a dig at Tucker Carlson after former Fox News host criticizes POTUS's Iran policy and his old employer for war propaganda.
The split is here, and Tucker is just—he's a substantial—he's one of the most prominent voices.
Now, when Trump was asked about it, he said, I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen.
Shockingly bad play, in my opinion.
If Trump—I can't imagine— Trump is unaware of the changing media landscape.
And to imply that Tucker Carlson, because he's not on Fox News getting 500,000 key demo viewers, his voice is not relevant anymore, is maybe just Trump trying to dig at Tucker and say, ha ha, you lost your job?
But in terms of a dig at Tucker, telling him to be on TV when TV's dead?
shane cashman
Does Trump not realize?
unidentified
Well, Trump is in his 80s, but I think, you know.
tim pool
Almost, right?
Oh, no, as 39. That's right.
No, no, he turned 80. He turned 80. Yeah.
Yeah, that was yesterday.
bradley devlin
It was the birthday.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
And he, I mean, he does, I like the president, but he's got some serious boomer energy.
I think that's, you know.
shane cashman
This is the president that used the podcast network to help get elected.
bradley devlin
So this is such a good point.
shane cashman
Like, he understands TV's dead.
libby emmons
And I think the fact of the matter is.
tim pool
Or does Baron.
libby emmons
He just doesn't care what Tucker thinks.
And so he's going to go after him.
It's not about Tucker in a news network.
It's about saying, like, you're not the president.
And I think we're going to hear a lot of you're not the president in the next couple days.
One thing that I think could be relevant is that Israel usually fights short wars.
They don't tend to drag on for a long time.
So if the U.S. can stay out of it or just be like, I mean, the Israeli narrative on this has been all over the map.
bradley devlin
They initiated this new war because the clock was running out and Iran was going to get a bomb tomorrow.
They started this war three years ago against Iran and its proxies.
They started this war 30 years ago with Iran and its proxies.
I want to return to something Shane said, though.
Alternative Podcast Network.
And the reason that President Donald Trump won was because, in part, of this media strategy.
And I think a lot of people have heard the, it's the long-form, authentic conversation style, bro.
That's what's doing it for people.
And I love coming on this show, and I can say that that's certainly true.
But the other thing that no one wants to talk about, the reason why the alternative media podcast strategy had to be the play, is because of the failures of the right-wing media.
Failures of the right wing media It's not structured To be something that actually We do journalism and man on the street.
All we got out of 10 years, 15 years of digital journalism on the right was maybe a few smackdowns with respect to the Obama IRS scandal.
We got a filibuster from Ted Cruz about Obamacare.
We got a failure in Obama repeal.
We got a tax cut.
And we didn't get our troops out of any of the places that the American people wanted them out of.
And so where did Trump have to go?
He had to go to Joe Rogan.
He had to go to these other podcast networks because the right-wing media is not built to win or manage a coalition.
It's just not.
tim pool
The interesting thing is, you know, on Fox News all day, it's Iran.
Israel-Iran.
When Israel launched its strikes on Iran, the first thing— He's a Sunday night guy, I think, right?
Sunday night?
And he was passionately, I'll be nice, but angrily and passionately saying, we must support Israel in this effort.
This is America first.
How dare they call me neocon?
We have to support our ally and things like this.
This is going to be interesting.
Trump versus Tucker, the coalition splitting.
The left comes back.
I don't know what happens because now we're at a point where, man, I don't want the U.S. to be involved in a war in Iran because a war in Iran is not Iraq and Afghanistan.
Like you mentioned earlier, it's massive.
We're talking about the U.S. dumping hundreds of billions into Ukraine.
And for the U.S. to be involved in Iran, it's going to be hundreds of billions more and hundreds of billions more than we've already given to Ukraine.
This is going to rock the U.S. economy in devastating ways.
The inflation is going to be ridiculous.
shane cashman
A lot of companies are going to make a lot of money.
Silicon Valley is very happy.
tim pool
It reminds me, I've got to get my military-industrial complex stocks.
shane cashman
Better get a look at that.
Buy into Andruil while you're at it.
tim pool
What should I get?
shane cashman
Andruil, probably, because they're making the killer robots.
phil labonte
Andruil's not probably traded yet.
shane cashman
Palmer Luckey.
tim pool
What about Lockheed?
Is Lockheed trading?
shane cashman
You should look it up.
Maybe Lockheed.
phil labonte
Lockheed, Martin.
shane cashman
Clearview is going to be doing a thing.
All these places.
tim pool
Lockheed is down 4% for the day, but the overnight's up 2.13.
shane cashman
They're salivating for this because they're the new corporations like we had during FDR with JP Morgan and DuPont.
tim pool
I'd say Boeing.
Actually, they're up today.
shane cashman
How?
They keep falling out of the sky.
tim pool
Northrop is there.
bradley devlin
Could be useful in terms of war.
shane cashman
We're going to recycle these things.
tim pool
Northrop Grumman was down 3.75 for the day, but now in the overnights, it's shot straight up.
Dude, I love this.
Open up your stock ticker, whatever app you're using.
The moment Trump says evacuate now, the military-industrial complex stocks jump like 1% or 2%.
shane cashman
Look up what Nancy Pelosi's buying right now.
tim pool
Quiver quantitative on that.
bradley devlin
Remember when we pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021, as disastrous as it was, how long was it until we got involved in Ukraine?
shane cashman
We've been at war my whole life.
We've been in wars.
phil labonte
We've been from Afghanistan to Ukraine.
Straight there.
tim pool
Interestingly, when we were getting out of Afghanistan...
And so the speculation from everybody was that we were about to get into a conflict with China.
We were moving away from desert conflict into naval conflict, but we haven't seen that yet.
If we get involved with Iran, why would China not be like Taiwan's ours?
bradley devlin
Of course they will.
And we're already moving assets, like the Nimitz and stuff.
We're already moving assets away from that region.
And what did China do in the past 24 hours?
Oh, you know, Iran, you know, Israel is dominating your skies.
They've destroyed quite a lot of your missile systems.
Nevertheless, you have large missile stockpiles.
But if this rapid pace continues, then, hey, you might run out of these by July, mid-July, or whatever.
Okay, well, here's another 1,000 missiles for you.
Here's more drones for you.
China has absolutely the interest of getting us bogged down in a quagmire, just like we bogged down the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
tim pool
And just a half an hour ago, China called for the evacuation of its citizens from Israel.
Or it was reported.
phil labonte
Libby, what were you going to say?
libby emmons
Jennifer Jacobs from CBS just posted...
Yeah, CBS.
She just posted, U.S. is not joining Israel offensively in its military operation per U.S. officials, despite reports that President Trump asked the NSC and Situation Room to be readied.
I'm told NSC cabinet members are already on standby 24 hours a day, including since Israel's Operation Rising Line began.
So, you know.
tim pool
And then I'm going to say it because I'm hoping it don't happen and I'm hoping I'm wrong.
There will be an attack on U.S. forces in the region.
Trump will say it's unacceptable.
We are simply maintaining trade routes.
We can't stand for this.
And then you get a war.
Gulf of Tonkin.
The U.S. claimed we were attacked.
We weren't.
We got involved in the war.
It's a lot harder to do in the social media era because people have videos.
But the president says it.
His top line supporters are going to say Trump is right.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Roll.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Well, we'll see what happens.
tim pool
I mean, and the other thing I'll mention, too, is you look at the assassination attempt on Trump.
And then Dan Bongino and Cash Patel get in, they say there's no there there.
Like, double lightning strike, double lottery winning all at the same time for that story to happen.
My point is that even if the US does engage in some kind of false flag to muster up public support, you'll never get the answers even in the digital age.
shane cashman
Right.
We have our guys, the podcast guys are in there right now talking about conspiracies for the last few years and no answers.
The Thomas Matthew Crook story, I mean, that guy might as well have been 3D printed in some laboratory.
It makes no sense.
libby emmons
That was so weird.
tim pool
I'll mention this too.
It is obvious why Netanyahu wanted to have a meeting with a bunch of top media personalities and podcasters.
The whole conversation was, Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon and they're going to come for you.
And no, they're not.
They're not going to create an ICBM and then fire at the United States.
If you look at things like that, it's pretty obvious what the intent was and where they want us all to go.
They want shows like this.
That's why I said I wonder how long a show like this can exist.
If the machine state says we're going to war, if Trump is even on board and says we're going to war, and then we're sitting here being like, nah.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
What happens?
shane cashman
I don't know.
bradley devlin
EDOS attacks every night for YouTube.
shane cashman
It feels like he's struggle sessioning America into the war.
And then all those people, there's probably other influencers there, maybe like TPSA types or PragerU types, who are using the safe and effective argument for war now.
Like, we've got to go do it now.
It's a preemptive thing.
I'm like, this doesn't work.
The pattern of war has been going on my whole life.
Since my great-grandparents were in this country, this country's been at war.
Haven't even declared it officially since World War II.
So I just oppose this, and I really hope Trump is in charge enough and not having all these horrible people in his ear dragging us into this horrible world.
tim pool
Wait, hold on.
I'm seeing a tweet from Trump.
He says...
You know, now that I think about it, I agree with the question.
War is good.
And you know, you guys are crazy.
I like war.
shane cashman
Now that you say it like that.
bradley devlin
Don't scare me like that.
shane cashman
Tim's making a very good point.
tim pool
Trump did not tweet, war is actually good.
bradley devlin
Can I send you something?
That sounded like fake.
'Cause I think that meeting So this is from Pew Research, and it's Views of Israel from 2022.
I search for it?
tim pool
How do I search for it?
bradley devlin
So search Pew Research, How Americans View Israel and the Israel-Hamas War at the start of Trump's second term.
It's an article by Laura Silver.
tim pool
What's the date?
bradley devlin
It's April 8th, 2025, but I think it was listed on SEO.
Yeah, no, it's April 8th, 2025.
tim pool
Got it.
bradley devlin
So, okay, so scroll down until you see a graphic about party and age breakdown and their favorability views of Israel.
Keep going further.
It's going to be a dot graph.
tim pool
This thing?
bradley devlin
Down further.
It's all blue.
So this, this right here.
So this is why...
This is why...
Do you want to have a meeting like that?
tim pool
Look at US adults, Republican, lean Republican, ages Negative views of Israel have risen in the U.S. from 2022 among all U.S. adults from 42 to 53 percent.
bradley devlin
Okay, now look at ages 18 to 49. 62 to 71. Yeah, but, you know, they're just— Above that.
Republican, lean Republican.
tim pool
18 to 49. 35 to 50. It's up, jumped 50 points towards the negative.
bradley devlin
15 points in the last three years over the course of the war.
libby emmons
That's also the generation that hasn't been taught anything about the Holocaust or, like, the actual nature.
tim pool
I mean, come on.
We're, like, shit about the Holocaust.
bradley devlin
Hold on, hold on.
libby emmons
This is publication of textbooks that have been driven by Arab...
I'm just saying they have been conditioned to hate Israel already.
bradley devlin
Since 2022 to 2025, all the textbooks change and we don't talk about the Holocaust enough?
libby emmons
No, I'm not saying that we didn't.
That's not what I said.
But after 9-11, there was a huge surge of Arab philanthropic money going into Texas.
tim pool
But that doesn't explain why an 18-year-old in 2022...
libby emmons
I'm just throwing out everything that there is.
tim pool
But the point he brought up is that.
libby emmons
Adding to it.
tim pool
Netanyahu wants to have a meeting because they can see exactly this happening.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
But I don't think that's why he had the meeting.
The meeting was literally just, Iran's getting a nuke, you have to go to war.
You have to.
And everybody groaning and being like, nah.
There were a handful of people that were like, yeah.
But most people were like, nah.
The Trump base, the American populist coalition on the right does not want to be involved in this war.
I don't know what the left wants.
libby emmons
Well, you know, the left wants to eradicate Israel along with...
tim pool
So they're going to be against it as well.
libby emmons
Yeah, they're against it as well.
I mean, I think the thing is that Israel is a very strong country and they can pretty much take care of themselves.
And it's up to Trump if he wants to, you know, give them the bunker busters, which I don't I don't know enough about what they're facing to know if that's really what I know they believe that that's necessary.
But I do think that.
tim pool
We have a correction.
Trump is 79, not 80. He just turned 79. We do have this story from the Daily Mail.
Pakistan tells Iran they will nuke Israel if Netanyahu uses nuclear weapons against Iran.
Regime officer claims a huge World War III apocalypse threat.
General Mohsen Reze, a senior officer in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and a member of Iran's National Security Council, said in an interview, They're downwind.
They're downwind.
bradley devlin
Pakistan has to have denied this by now.
tim pool
I do believe that the latest update...
libby emmons
Their war with India came to a close pretty quickly.
Yeah, I mean- They do that.
Periodically.
bradley devlin
For once in a while they have to remind people that we exist too and we're kind of near the Middle East.
shane cashman
Flirting with bombs.
tim pool
The only source I can find is Hindustan Times.
libby emmons
That's not always...
tim pool
No such commitment.
Pakistan and Iran's tit-for-tat claim.
So, Pakistan has told us that Israel, however, Pakistan has denied this claim, taking to X. Okay, so maybe they do...
I'll try and look up the actual guy.
shane cashman
While you do that, I just want to say one thing really quick about the importance of going after the media and what Netanyahu's doing, but what all people do.
All governors of state do presidents and the CIA.
bradley devlin
It's your responsibility, basically.
shane cashman
They know they have to undermine the media to undermine the country.
In 1953, Kermit Roosevelt Jr. was a CIA officer on the ground in Iran.
Literally working to subvert all of the media to turn it against the Ayatollah, which is what we did to tackle, to shut down Iran with the coup, right?
So he spent all that time, I think under a year, to subvert the nation with bad news, right?
So it's like the same thing of trying to fear monger in the media here.
And Netanyahu knows the podcast world, the influencer world is the one that's got more people listening.
tim pool
I'm not finding this post, they're claiming.
bradley devlin
While we're on that, though, we talked a little bit about the left sway back.
And we talk a lot about the three-legged stool of the right from the Reagan days, the economic libertarians, the, you know, let's call them the hawks, the national security hawks and anti-communists, and then the...
The seat of the stool was anti-communism.
tim pool
This is crazy.
bradley devlin
You think of the three-legged stool on the left, for the longest time it had been kind of the technocratic institutionalist left, the civil rights left, and the economic left, the workers'unions, etc.
phil labonte
Yeah.
bradley devlin
Now you have this coming back where you can have an anti-war contingent.
Senator Tim Kaine today has already introduced legislation or resolution that would condemn any sort of military action against Iran.
You have a civil rights coalition, which with the DEI mindset, and this is probably the nuttiest leg of the stool, but this is the same thing that drives...
You bring those people back into the fold.
And then the institutionalist contingent, we saw they were a total flop, but the No More Kings demonstrations over the weekend, those are the institutionalists here.
And you're bringing these people back together, breaking apart your own coalition at the same time.
If you are one of those figureheads on cable news right now, advocating for a war with Iran, Because of the nuclear weapon, but not telling people what is inevitably going to follow if we're not super duper careful.
tim pool
So I'm looking up this claim of an ex post.
I can't find it.
And I've seen people posting screenshots.
It's not on his page.
And I pulled up his page, but it's just pictures of dead children and corpses and stuff from the war.
So I'm not going to.
unidentified
Yeah, don't do that.
tim pool
But I went to his ex.
It says on Hindustan Times that they're denying it.
Our nuclear capabilities are the benefit of the people, our country, blah, blah, blah.
Denying that this claim has been made.
But I don't see it on his ex page.
The only thing I see going back several days is just pictures of bombs, them saying Israel's going to be wiped off the map, and dead kids from Gaza.
bradley devlin
which is gross too.
shane cashman
Also, to just remain suspicious of every news that might confirm any bias you have about anything domestic and foreign.
I have been seeing so many big accounts share bogus stuff all weekend, especially like the people celebrating allegedly in Iran in the tunnel.
Old video.
Bombs.
There's certain bombs.
Obviously, some of these rockets are real videos.
Others, totally fake videos, other things.
Everyone's trying to win you over.
bradley devlin
Color editing to make it look more.
shane cashman
Yep.
Just like they made Trump orange.
They're making fires more bigger.
But they're from like two years ago, three years ago.
You know, we keep seeing stuff like that.
So just be very careful of the things that are making you emotional, you know, when it I was just saying the other day how we were on IRL a year ago talking about the hospital that was bombed.
We were like, maybe this is not even real news.
It turned out the next day, bogus.
It was not exactly how they were portraying it as.
It's a fog of war.
phil labonte
And that's kind of become a norm nowadays.
shane cashman
And then, not to mention AI stuff that's going to be pumped out.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I still don't have a sense that there's a lot of AI stuff used to try to trick people, I guess.
I feel like, you know...
They do propaganda in other ways.
bradley devlin
But that fog of war during the Arab Spring was, you know, I think there was a quote from an Eisenhower administration official, might have been Ike himself, that said, like, you know, this is all laying a bank of fog, the fog of war, and allows political operators in that fog.
To operate very, very, very shrouded, but yet right there in front of the public.
phil labonte
And you're just like, we need boots on the ground.
bradley devlin
And what happens?
phil labonte
We need boots on the ground.
bradley devlin
In Arab Spring, what happened with that bank of fog?
All of a sudden, you have 2 million to 10 million, that's literally the range of the estimates, people coming in and fundamentally changing Western Europe.
And Western Europe is a fundamentally different place because of the regime change wars that took place.
And the uprisings that took place, supported by Western powers.
shane cashman
Funny enough, Eisenhower was the one behind the 1950s.
He was the president during the Iranian coup, who also gave us the great term, military-industrial complex.
Because he saw it up in close and personal.
He inherited the coup from Truman, and then he was like, yeah, let's do that.
bradley devlin
That's how they operate in the shadows, and all of a sudden, boom, your country gets hit with two million new migrants.
taking over full neighborhoods and completely changing the way that your community operates, the culture of your community, the culture of your nation, the creed of your nation even sometimes.
Go.
And that could be coming on an even larger scale because we think that Shara is in charge of Syria.
No, Syria is broken up into four different contingents, still all vying for power.
It's going to be a contest between the Israelis and the Turks there.
There could be a whole lot more bloodshed before that thing is over.
How's Libya doing?
How's Iraq doing?
phil labonte
I have no idea how Libya is doing right now.
tim pool
Libya is doing very, very poorly.
unidentified
Libya is not doing well.
bradley devlin
Millions of people still.
Plus what happens in Iran could come to the Western world and the West could be done as we know it.
tim pool
The story's out of Libya right now.
Negotiations, how are they handled?
I heard this from a friend who works in development in various regions doing like investments and things like this, that it's all tribal leaders now and they negotiate by a group of tribal militia walked into one of the local magistrates, whatever they call themselves, put a grenade on the table and just said, this is how we do business.
That's what it's turned into.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Live grenade.
Here we go.
We get what we want.
phil labonte
Apparently, Hillary Clinton was wrong about what would happen in Libya.
tim pool
Publicly, she had her public position or private position, remember?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And publicly, she was like, we'll be greeted as liberators.
I'm saying that facetiously.
Behind the scenes, they knew exactly what they were doing in destabilizing the region.
That was the point.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
Just like we did to Haiti.
phil labonte
Yeah, well, Haiti.
shane cashman
Guatemala.
Yep.
tim pool
I think the Arab Spring was an operation of the West.
shane cashman
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.
libby emmons
Yeah, you think so?
shane cashman
I wouldn't doubt it.
libby emmons
What do you make of Egypt putting the quash on the Palestinian Gaza march?
tim pool
It's completely expected.
I don't know.
That's why we always make a joke.
When these leftists argue about Israel-Palestine, we always say, okay, we'll buy a plane ticket over there.
I've offered this to a lot of people and they never want to do it.
I say, hey, I've got an idea.
How about we send you, we'll do a documentary, we'll film you talking about what you believe in, why you believe in it, we'll go to the Rafa Crossing, and then we'll film a whole thing about what you're doing, what you want to do, and we'll see what happens.
And then they're like, nah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
The challenge with it is...
And so it's like, we can't really do it.
libby emmons
Like Spanish Civil War, like all the Americans went over, got themselves in a mess.
tim pool
I'm just saying, like, if I told someone I'll buy your ticket to go to the Rafa Crossing, I'll get sued.
libby emmons
Really?
You'd get sued?
tim pool
By the family for wrongful death.
They're going to be like, they're going to say, you know, knew, and even talk about on your show how this is going to result in, you know, death or serious injury, and you send them there anyway.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm going to be like, they wanted to go.
That's like, yeah, but they didn't know.
And you knew they didn't know.
shane cashman
Jim would have to sell a farm.
tim pool
Yeah, sell a farm.
shane cashman
You sign up for war correspondence.
That's kind of what you get into.
tim pool
You are liable for your war correspondence.
That's why we don't do it.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
So, people didn't understand this.
Like, sending a reporter on the ground to cover riots is ridiculously expensive.
Not because of the labor costs, because of the insurance costs.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, you're going to send someone into a place where they're going to get bludgeoned to death, where far-left extremists are going to chase them down to kill them?
Yeah, your insurance is going to get expensive real quick.
shane cashman
Yup.
Yeah, it's dangerous.
Look what Andy Ngo did, Richie McGinnis, you know, these guys on the ground all 20-summer of love.
tim pool
Cam Higby just got a concussion.
All of our psycho friends.
shane cashman
Yeah, exactly.
bradley devlin
Shout out to our psycho friends.
phil labonte
Pictures of his helmet.
libby emmons
Yeah, Katie figured out who did it, too.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah?
shane cashman
Wow.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to the story.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a crazy cover-up going on, in my opinion, that involves every level of the liberal establishment and government.
Now, maybe I'm just being a little silly, but this is a crazy story.
An innocent bystander was fatally shot at a No Kings protest in Salt Lake City.
I'm just going to say it right off the bat.
The organizers of the protest...
And the police arrested one of the guys who got shot at.
And now here I am.
I'm going to say it.
Stop making me defend Antifa.
libby emmons
What I also want to know too is why didn't these guys have their less than lethal rounds?
tim pool
It's not legal.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff.
libby emmons
So cops have that?
tim pool
No, no, these weren't cops.
libby emmons
No, no, no, I know.
So cops have the rubber bullets.
tim pool
You're not allowed to have that.
libby emmons
You're not allowed to have rubber bullets.
You're only allowed to have real bullets.
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
Okay.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So there's a group called Five...
I hate this group with a passion because they call themselves 5051, but it's not 5051, it's 50501.
So it's 5501, but they call themselves 5051.
So you can't accurately say it.
To a person so they can search for it?
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Anyway.
libby emmons
5501, you could say that.
tim pool
5501 organized the No Kings protest.
5501 is responsible for many of the protests that were organized.
And they stated on Facebook they were directly involved in the shooting of an innocent person.
And the police arrested the guy they shot at.
Now, there's video.
I'm not going to show the full video because it's just a panning shot from a rooftop.
The first thing I want to show you is this.
This is from Utah News Dispatch.
Man died after being shot in chaotic scene at Salt Lake City's No Kings protest.
They go on to say, in a Facebook post by Utah's 50501, the group that organized...
It's working with police saying, quote, our team was directly involved.
We have been in direct contact with law enforcement.
Some of you seem to think a keyboard or social media gives you a free pass to be nasty and accusatory.
Our teams just had to deal with something extremely traumatizing and when faced with personal risk to their own lives, chose to run toward the danger in order to serve the community.
Lies.
The video that was released shows a far left guy in black block.
He's wearing all black.
He's an Antifa guy.
He's carrying a rifle.
Legally pointed down.
Two peacekeepers from presumably this group, they're saying they're involved, are holding pistols, pointing it at them, and they fire three shots.
The dude ducks after getting shot at and runs.
They had already shot and killed the guy when this guy started running.
The narrative they're putting out is they saw a man manipulate his rifle, and then when they yelled him to stop, he ran into the crowd, so they opened fire.
And someone got caught in the crossfire.
But when you watch the video, you can clearly see that is not the case.
Now, the police arrested the dude who got shot.
It is not illegal to carry a rifle.
Utah is permitless open carry.
libby emmons
Why didn't they arrest the people that shot the guy?
tim pool
They are covering up the fact that liberal organizers shot randomly into a crowd and killed the guy.
phil labonte
Insane.
tim pool
And the crazy thing is, I'm finding a lot of people have no idea this happened.
libby emmons
Yeah, we had viral stories about this all weekend.
At the Postmillennial.
tim pool
So I'm going to show you some stills.
Not the actual shooting.
unidentified
Let me see if I can...
tim pool
Gamboa is the guy who's got arrested.
Now, take a look at this.
You can clearly see...
You can see his rifle is pointed down.
He's wearing all black.
There may be issues of him wearing a mask and carrying a weapon, but I doubt it.
I don't think that makes sense.
And here you can see...
There's another man slightly to his right.
I think we can grab that.
There's another guy slightly to his right, you can see.
We'll pull this one up.
Also aiming a gun towards Gamboa.
And they say Gamboa, when first shots were fired and started to run, the rifle was pointed down the whole time.
He wasn't aiming at anybody.
This is the guy that got arrested.
Liberals on social media are calling Gamboa the shooter.
And here I am, you got me defending Antifa!
Of all people.
libby emmons
Yeah, because no one wants to read past the headline.
tim pool
Nobody on the left wants to admit that their protest, that their organizers shot and killed a guy.
bradley devlin
These are the people who organize themselves every seven years to say that police should shoot more people in the leg or something, right?
It almost gives me a little bit of heart that there's still a hard left out there that knows how to operate and hold a gun in public.
Keep it pointed down, boys.
I know my rights.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I don't know that there's anything good about having a hard left out there.
They've caused absolute...
The left in the U.S. has been a big problem, and I can't see a silver lining.
bradley devlin
No, I'm keeping it light, Phil.
You're right about it.
libby emmons
There you go.
tim pool
They say this.
Police accused Arturo Gamboa, 24, of brandishing a rifle at demonstrators and running away from two peacekeepers who ordered him to drop the weapon.
Police said Gamboa and Alu were both struck by gunfire after one of the peacekeepers fired three rounds.
There's video.
This dude's not brandishing a weapon towards anybody.
libby emmons
Police said that he was holding it in a firing position.
tim pool
This is really weird.
phil labonte
So he's probably got his hand on that.
tim pool
This is a very weird story.
phil labonte
I mean, just the fact that the dudes that shot people didn't get picked up.
It's super, super weird.
shane cashman
They're called peacekeepers.
phil labonte
Point taken.
shane cashman
It's so Orwellian.
They're obviously foot soldiers for domestic terrorists, but they call themselves peacekeepers, so the state protects them.
libby emmons
They're like the legal watch people at all the protests.
They wear the little green hats, and they're there to tell you what your rights are.
What are they called?
phil labonte
I have no idea.
libby emmons
You guys don't know about this?
phil labonte
No.
libby emmons
You know about this.
tim pool
About what?
libby emmons
The lawyers people.
tim pool
The National Lawyers Guild.
libby emmons
Yeah, and they have their little hats.
tim pool
They're a progressive activist group masquerading as a neutral law.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
Legal observers.
libby emmons
Yes, legal observers.
bradley devlin
If you join that group, you have a better chance of becoming a source-funded DA, etc., etc.
tim pool
Probably.
The National Lawyers Guild shove at protests, they wear green hats, and they say we're just legal observers.
They're actually progressive activists that are down there, and they get paid, and their purpose is to defy the police.
So there's never an instance where a legal observer will defend someone who's conservative or a cop.
It's only ever in service to the insurgents, to the violence, to the riots and the protests.
So this is going to be interesting, how this plays out.
There's another video where the cops are running into the crowd and they're all screaming and pointing at the Antifa guy.
But I'm wondering, it's not good that Antifa is getting up in Black Block and carrying rifles into protests.
phil labonte
At all.
libby emmons
They've been doing it for a long time.
They were doing it in 2020 in Texas.
That's why that guy got killed.
Remember that?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, wait a minute.
The guy that was in his car?
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know if that guy...
libby emmons
No, he wasn't Antifa.
The guy he shot was like Antifa guy.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't think that's actually the case.
tim pool
Look at this, they're saying...
unidentified
Who did?
libby emmons
Who wasn't an Antifa guy?
The shooter or the guy who got shot?
phil labonte
The guy that got shot.
libby emmons
He had a mask on his face.
phil labonte
He had an AK, and he walked up to the guy's car.
tim pool
He was not an Antifa guy.
He was like a libertarian ANCAP guy.
libby emmons
Oh, gotcha.
phil labonte
He was not an Antifa guy.
tim pool
They say two peacekeepers told investigators they saw Gamboa leave the crowd of demonstrators and move into a secluded area behind a wall, which they found suspicious.
One of the peacekeepers told investigators that he saw Gamboa pull out an AR-15 style rifle from a backpack.
The peacekeepers then drew their firearms and ordered Gamboa to drop the rifle.
Witnesses reported to authorities that they saw Gamboa lift the rifle and run toward the crowd while holding the weapon in a firing position.
That is a lie.
And it's on video.
Absolutely insane.
And I bet you the quote-unquote witnesses were friends with the organizers because this is what the left does.
And, well, look, not that...
So when you've got organizers from the event shooting and killing an innocent guy, they're going to say, no, no, they're the good guys.
It's really important.
bradley devlin
So my first time covering an active shooter situation was at the Butler, Pennsylvania rally last July.
One of the things that I was told by my boss and friends who had more experience with this before was make sure that when you're doing voice interviews, take people who are willing to put their name on it.
Witnesses say.
Have detailed documentation of this because one of the things that me, myself, and a bunch of other people saw was not only...
And so that, at least from my experience, gives a little bit more credence to the idea that this is something that is going towards yet another cover-up.
Of left-wing violence.
And I don't want to distract us from what actually is going on in our country, but I will say, a glimmer of hope from our last subject, Sean Parnell, who's a patriot who was there at that Butler Pennsylvania rally, who I saw physically pulling people out of Butler who were struggling to walk and things like that because they were elderly or fatigued.
He is now one of the DOD spokespeople.
He said, American forces are maintaining their defensive posture and that has not changed.
We will protect American troops and our interests.
Hopefully they were watching and they saw how upset we got.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the New York Times.
We have the story.
Now this story's crazy.
An assassin, Vance Bolter, went to the homes of these lawmakers, shot them and their spouses, Two of them survived.
Two of them died.
And we don't know why.
The right is saying that this was done.
He's a leftist who was angry that these Democrats crossed the line to vote with Republicans to strip immigrants of health care.
This guy had been appointed to a state governor board program by Tim Waltz.
And you certainly don't appoint right-wingers if you're a Democrat these days.
But that was, I believe, in 2019.
The left is arguing he's a Christian conservative pastor and Trump supporter.
According to his roommate?
shane cashman
He had a roommate despite having a family and kids and a giant house on a beautiful piece of property.
phil labonte
Totally normal.
shane cashman
He also had a roommate, two roommates actually, in a small place.
And his friend ran Papa John's or something.
libby emmons
It is really weird.
That's a weird roommate interview.
shane cashman
And, like, everything seems so canned.
First of all, I don't understand how a man that large could actually be on the run.
Like, I don't understand that at all.
libby emmons
And then also, when you look at the surveillance video, it doesn't look like a very big fella.
shane cashman
No, because, well, this manhunt is brought to you by Ozempic.
libby emmons
Yes.
shane cashman
Yeah.
libby emmons
It's actually part of the new ad campaign.
shane cashman
That's right.
This roommate is saying things that made no sense.
He made no sense.
He was trying to make it sound like they're just not political but also a Trump fan.
He kept saying things that I thought sounded forced.
He didn't like Jim Walsh or Jim Biden.
Give me a break.
libby emmons
What are you even talking about?
shane cashman
Give me a break.
tim pool
Jim Biden?
shane cashman
Yeah, that's what the roommate said.
libby emmons
That's your brother.
shane cashman
Well, maybe he was just talking about...
Yeah, drove him to violence.
The whole thing just is fishy.
bradley devlin
We know about Jim Biden.
libby emmons
It's completely fair.
shane cashman
I just don't get it.
There's so much information coming out about it.
It reminds me of Thomas Matthew Crooks all over again.
libby emmons
Meanwhile, they're not going to...
shane cashman
But the FBI just also said there was no manifesto.
while then describing the things that actually sound like a manifesto?
libby emmons
That's because the FBI does this thing where they say, It's just a collection of organized notes with bullet points.
shane cashman
That's an interesting way of saying a manifesto.
bradley devlin
It's a statement of principles, actually.
shane cashman
He said it wasn't like Kaczynski.
It was.
libby emmons
An overly educated manifesto.
phil labonte
If it's got a table of contents, it's a manifesto.
shane cashman
Is that what it is?
libby emmons
Is that part of the definition?
phil labonte
Well, it should be.
I don't know if it is or not, but it absolutely should be.
libby emmons
What if it's more of like a vignette manifesto?
You know?
unidentified
Whatever happened though, this guy is just- It's not a manifesto.
libby emmons
It's a mission statement.
shane cashman
Whatever it is, this is...
I believe he is an actor, some agent of chaos from someone behind the scenes.
libby emmons
I'm shocked you think that.
shane cashman
I know.
Libby, Libby, this is what they do.
How did he get a cop car?
How did he get to run away for that long?
bradley devlin
You can buy an old cop car at a junkyard.
libby emmons
And soup it up like that?
Don't they take all the stuff off?
bradley devlin
I'm not on the conspiracy train here.
shane cashman
You better get on it.
bradley devlin
There's a lot that I can be convinced of still.
Are you selling tickets?
libby emmons
Or are they geocaching?
bradley devlin
The mask scared the bejesus out of me.
I thought those pictures were so creepy.
Scared me to death.
The one thing that I can kind of say about this though is like with this conflicting left-right narrative, I don't think that's as important.
And of course, it's going to be way more important because we're talking about the assassination of political leaders at this point.
But it just kind of speaks more to a portion of the population that is...
shane cashman
But rightfully so.
libby emmons
So it's like a black pill thing?
bradley devlin
I like coming on this show because you guys challenge the system every day in a way that I think is morally responsible.
Yeah, exactly.
You're a conspiracy train.
shane cashman
Because I think the deep state are accelerationists.
unidentified
Mostly the moon stuff.
phil labonte
It's the moon stuff.
shane cashman
Phil, don't get me started.
The deep state are accelerationists.
libby emmons
I think you should get them started.
shane cashman
Wait, wait, wait.
The deep state are accelerationists that want to drop evidence on these people all the time that make either political side believe it's their enemy.
So it's like the no kings evidence then becomes evidence for either political side to be like, he's the other.
He's that guy.
He's this guy.
They do it all the time.
It's just like the New Zealand guy.
I think they want power and control and chaos.
There's no left or right.
phil labonte
I think they want their pension.
bradley devlin
I will give you 72 more hours on this before I start to move in your direction.
shane cashman
It'll take much less.
bradley devlin
We do find out with certainty that he was a right-winger.
We'll probably know within the next 72 hours.
shane cashman
What's with certainty?
bradley devlin
What?
shane cashman
How do you get with certainty that he was a right-winger?
Just because he voted a certain way?
Thomas Matthew Crooks was an anarchist, but a Trump voter, but a lefty.
bradley devlin
He was a registered Republican, but he only donated to Democrats.
shane cashman
He had no silverware.
bradley devlin
The whole thing is so weird.
shane cashman
Thomas Matthew Crooks' house had no silverware.
These people are created in labs by the deep state.
bradley devlin
I don't think you're ever going to get me there.
shane cashman
I'm on the show like one or two more times.
We'll get you there.
bradley devlin
I will say, I just feel like at this point with the FBI under Kash Patel, Kash Patel has been reforming the FBI.
A lot of people in that organization are patriots.
A lot of people are deep state agents and they are not happy with the way things are going.
So I think that if this person If they were of the left, we will go on and on and on, and we will not know.
If they were some sort of...
How would you describe the deep state plant?
shane cashman
It's to destabilize the entire country, throw us into chaos, hate each other, create this illusion of the left-right binary, and they just feed off of all of us.
Creating money by making war.
bradley devlin
If we have zero answers six months from now, I will be more inclined to believe your position because we still don't know anything about Vegas.
shane cashman
The thing is, though, you're not going to get answers.
We're post-answers.
This is a post-reality world.
Nothing can convince anyone of anything anymore, which is they take advantage of that.
Thomas Matthews Crooks, we don't even have answers on that.
That guy shot at the president.
tim pool
And also Vegas, like you pointed out.
shane cashman
And look what CIA does.
bradley devlin
Dude, you have me on Vegas.
shane cashman
We spent $100,000 in 1953 to destabilize an entire nation.
Think they're going to groom some insane people with, like, MKUltra to carry out some death plan?
Like, this is what they do.
We have Operation Gladio, we got MKUltra, Chaos.
This is what that world does.
They create chaos, and they don't care.
They will sacrifice innocent people to get a narrative across.
But nowadays, because it's accelerationism, they will plant things that will get either side to think it was their enemy.
So then we're just fighting about it while they're just in the background creating war.
In my opinion.
bradley devlin
I could easily be convinced of this opinion six months from now.
shane cashman
We'll revisit.
bradley devlin
I think it's more of a wait-and-see game for me on this one.
It scares the hell out of me that so many people distrust the system so much.
shane cashman
I think that was by design.
tim pool
Well, I don't disagree that the CIA will like MKUltra people because we literally know about MKUltra.
There's just so many people.
And a lot of them are crazy.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
And you look at these Antifa protests, you look at the things that these people do, and they are standing on the razor's edge, ready to be these assassins.
shane cashman
I believe in real monsters that are totally disconnected from the establishment, and they're not puppets of some deep state.
Clearly, there's monsters.
Once I saw the roommate videos, I started to have questions, but...
Look up what happened with him.
He's a great example of someone that was tested on by Jolly West, whose MKUltra capabilities was around like Jack Ruby.
He went crazy after shooting on Lee Harvey Oswald.
And just see that kind of a crime scenario play out.
And that's the way I kind of see these things.
tim pool
With the roommates, you could have a guy who's a genuine nut with motivations.
And the roommates could be the media plants.
Could be the government narrative, whatever.
shane cashman
For sure.
Yeah, yeah.
bradley devlin
Do you jump...
So, like, let's say the congressional baseball shooting when Steve Scalise gets shot.
It almost seemed like, in my opinion, you probably know way more about this case than I do, but it was like, They wanted to shift the power in Congress intentionally.
tim pool
Yeah, who's-Thin majority and they said if we get rid of- And if we get rid of the Republicans, it'll be a Democrat majority.
bradley devlin
Right, but do you think that was – I don't know.
shane cashman
I don't know that story well enough.
tim pool
I think you're leftists.
I think we watch the left get violent.
shane cashman
So I think there's leftists who are interested.
bradley devlin
That's my point, right?
shane cashman
Someone like that.
bradley devlin
Do you jump there first or do you explain it?
shane cashman
It really depends on the story.
I try not to jump to everything being connected to the deep state, but it does seem like a lot of that is, especially in the last five years.
It's great content.
tim pool
Bigfoot.
shane cashman
Bigfoot?
bradley devlin
Yeah.
shane cashman
Well, yeah, interdimensional deep state.
tim pool
Interdimensional deep state.
shane cashman
Yeah, that's a different one altogether.
tim pool
He's actually the leader of the Bigfoot dimension deep state.
shane cashman
You should call him later and tell us.
bradley devlin
You guys got Mothman out here, right?
shane cashman
Yes.
And the Flatlands monster.
tim pool
He's a good dude.
The grafted monster.
He's kind of a dick.
bradley devlin
I heard you were trying to book him next week.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he owes me 10 bucks.
shane cashman
A lot of these things have weird connections.
Just like Lee Harvey Oswald.
That's another good example of a possible Patsy.
And all these different people.
In that scenario, connected to different CIA.
Just look at Sirhan.
Sirhan is another example.
RFK Jr. doesn't even believe that he's that.
bradley devlin
When are we going to get those files?
I heard there was a drop recently.
shane cashman
There was an RFK drop recently, yeah.
libby emmons
What was in it?
shane cashman
I don't remember what was in it.
I haven't seen them all yet.
I'm still going through the JFK files.
bradley devlin
Is this Polymarket now?
unidentified
Yeah.
bradley devlin
Oh my, oh my.
tim pool
We'll get to that in a second.
bradley devlin
Okay, but RFK, we haven't found it.
Sirhan Sirhan shoots this guy.
There's another guy in the crowd who has a weapon, and he was ready to assassinate Bobby Kennedy.
And then Sirhan Sirhan says that he can't remember anything.
shane cashman
Yeah, which is exactly what happened to Jimmy Shaver.
libby emmons
Why is his name Sirhan Sirhan?
bradley devlin
It's one of those mid-century Islamic...
shane cashman
They do think it doesn't make sense.
RFK Jr. doesn't believe that he's the guy.
libby emmons
He doesn't.
shane cashman
Yeah.
That's interesting.
libby emmons
I think you'd want to know who killed your dad, you know?
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And, yeah.
And your uncle.
bradley devlin
The Tim Dillon.
Cheryl, there's a bomb in the car.
shane cashman
It's so good.
tim pool
Let's jump into this one.
We got this from Polymarket.
U.S. military action against Iran before July.
Now, it's dropped quite a bit.
Probably because of statements they've given out.
bradley devlin
Oh, great.
tim pool
We're at 8 p.m.
It hit 66.9% in the Polymarket predictions.
phil labonte
It's currently at 44. Thank goodness that it's below 50. But look at it, skyrocket.
tim pool
Yeah, below 50. I'd still bet on it.
bradley devlin
So that tweet that I sent out, wow.
Shorting Iran, huh?
That tweet that I had read aloud from Sean Parnell.
You know when Marco Rubio and Trump posted the same exact statement right after the first strike saying the U.S. had nothing to do with it?
Alex Pfeiffer, who I'm not going to mess up his...
Principal Deputy Communications Director, he has posted the same exact thing that Sean Parnell had posted.
This is not true.
American forces are maintaining their defensive posture and that has not changed.
We will defend American interests.
So this is literally copy and paste and several Trump administration people are posting this right now.
tim pool
I think the likely scenario, as I mentioned, is U.S. forces protecting the Strait of Hormuz get attacked or we have Iranians in the country right now.
That crossed through Joe Biden's porous border, and they engage in some kind of attack, retaliation against the United States.
shane cashman
The sleeper cell situation.
tim pool
And then the media comes out and just says, we were attacked by Iran.
It's Joe Biden's fault.
That's going to get all of MAGA, not literally all of them, but a lot of MAGA people are going to be like, you see, we can't let them do this.
This is Biden's fault.
Trump's just responding because they attacked us.
And that's how you get in the war.
unidentified
So I think polymarket's right.
bradley devlin
I think it's probably still a 50-50.
Spike at 67%.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's quite a spike.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Quite a spike, you think?
tim pool
That's crazy.
phil labonte
But, I mean, I don't know.
I would love to see the U.S. somehow avoid any kind of military action in Iran.
shane cashman
Just altogether.
Like, I don't want to supply anything.
I don't want to help anyone.
I just want this country to be good and good.
tim pool
Back when we were just largely farming and minding our own business.
shane cashman
It's been a long time since we haven't been at war in this country.
libby emmons
We get rich on selling weapons, mostly.
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's been the best thing.
bradley devlin
At least we sold them back then.
shane cashman
It's disgusting.
libby emmons
Selling them is better than just giving them away.
bradley devlin
If you want our weapons, great.
We're going to sell them to you.
libby emmons
Doesn't Israel buy our weapons?
shane cashman
Yep.
unidentified
Now remember, they buy the weapons with the money.
bradley devlin
We give them money.
shane cashman
We actually took weapons from Ukraine that we gave them and gave them to Israel.
libby emmons
We give them way less money than we give them to Israel.
phil labonte
No, we give money to weapons manufacturers in the United States.
They make weapons, then they take those weapons and they give those weapons to the Israelis.
bradley devlin
So the United States government gives...
Gives X billion dollars to a foreign country.
The foreign country enters into a purchase agreement of U.S. weapons with the U.S. government.
Then the taxpayer dollars that we had given to that country comes right back into the country but only goes to folks who live in McLean and Reston.
I mean, yeah, that's how this thing kind of goes time and time and time again.
And here we are talking about modernization and this pivot to Asia.
And I mean, this totally throws a wrench in all of that, in all of the, I think, dreams that the Trump base has for his presidency.
And still, I think a lot of them still think that...
The number one way that he differentiated himself were to take on the globalist sacred cows in 2016.
It was foreign policy, trade, and immigration.
And all those things were so tied together after 20 years of failed U.S. hegemony and new conservative leadership.
shane cashman
And that's what attacked him in the end.
Those things rose up against him.
And in my opinion, shut the world down.
You know I mean that.
Like, I think they shut the world down as an attack on Trump.
phil labonte
So you think that that was the whole shutdown?
I really do.
Was the world responding to the Trump president?
shane cashman
The world is in, like, the globalist power.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's right.
shane cashman
Yeah, I do.
phil labonte
I mean, like, Gaia or anything.
shane cashman
Yeah, maybe.
It is satanic.
phil labonte
Of course you were going to say maybe.
shane cashman
It is satanic, but like that is...
All this fear of war.
Now we have all this domestic stuff happening.
all this violence.
libby emmons
We started this year with- I mean, this was always going to happen if Trump became president.
Because you have Democrat politicians go out there and advocate for political violence against conservatives.
And they've been doing that since 2015.
shane cashman
Remember how this year started?
Tesla was blown up.
A Bourbon Street terror attack.
Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.
There has been multiple, multiple, a lot of violence.
A lot of violence has been happening this year.
It's everywhere.
phil labonte
I mean, Red Yard's not correct, but, you know, he's definitely on to something when he's talking about the mood of the country.
bradley devlin
Oh yeah.
phil labonte
Clearly.
shane cashman
It's in a dark place.
tim pool
And the hyperpolarization is only getting more pronounced because...
Boomers largely share a similar worldview.
Gen Z, left and right, could not believe in more different of things.
libby emmons
No, they believe in completely different, almost completely different realities.
tim pool
And you can't convince them of anything.
libby emmons
Because the issue is, you know, they don't have the same definition of sex.
They don't have the same definition of biology or race or, you know.
shane cashman
No reality.
libby emmons
Yeah.
It's a totally separate understanding of reality.
It used to be like with the boomers, when the boomers were middle-aged, when they were in their ascendancy, they had essentially, right and left, had the same vision of what prosperity is in the United States.
They had the same vision of what success would look like.
They just had different pathways of the right way to get there.
And that's what they were always arguing about.
Like when my stepmom, who's Democrat, and my dad, who was a Republican, would argue at the dinner table, it wasn't about what the goals should be.
Totally different goals if they can even identify what they are in the first place.
And you have the elders of Gen Z, like the millennials and Gen X, have a completely different worldview as well.
It's hard to mesh a millennial worldview with a Gen X worldview.
And if Gen X, they're supposed to be the leaders, they've been checked out since they got their first Atari.
bradley devlin
We'll notice that we're probably going to skip right over.
libby emmons
Gen X. Well, you thought that with the silent generation and then we got Joe Biden.
So I would not.
No, but their only president, I think, was Joe Biden.
tim pool
Silent?
libby emmons
The silent generation.
tim pool
Their only president was...
libby emmons
I think their only president was Biden, wasn't it?
bradley devlin
Would you consider George H.W. Bush his greatest generation?
Clinton, Boomer.
libby emmons
Boomer.
bradley devlin
Clinton, Bush.
libby emmons
Boomers.
bradley devlin
Obama.
Boomer.
Trump.
Saab.
libby emmons
Boomer.
bradley devlin
Boomer?
Right on the line.
libby emmons
I would say he's a boomer.
bradley devlin
Right on the line.
He codes it.
If he's not, he's definitely a boomer compared to Joe Biden, who's definitely silent.
Yeah.
I guess we're about to skip over the silent generation.
We're about to skip over Gen X, too.
libby emmons
Gen X has a shot.
tim pool
So, according to JGPT, Trump is a silent boomer cusp.
He was, I believe, the very first year.
And George W. Bush and Bill Clinton were all as well.
bradley devlin
46. They were all born in that same year.
tim pool
And 46 is the first year of the boomer, I believe.
libby emmons
That makes sense.
tim pool
But they're considered, it's like a It's like how they say zennials.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Joe Biden's the only actual silent of the past 10 presidents.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's try again.
The greatest generation was H.W., Reagan, Carter, Ford, and Nixon.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it then.
libby emmons
Yeah, pretty fascinating.
tim pool
He was the only one.
libby emmons
All that to say, you know, Gen X still has a shot at a presidency.
bradley devlin
Maybe.
libby emmons
We got what Gretchen Whitmer wants a chance.
JB Pritzker, isn't he Gen X?
These are all terrible people.
bradley devlin
Terrible, terrible people.
shane cashman
But they want it.
They do want it.
libby emmons
They want it.
What's Gavin Newsom?
Is he a millennial or is he a general?
unidentified
I guess he would be...
bradley devlin
He's an ancient spirit.
unidentified
No, yeah, he's probably Gen X. He's Gen X. Wow.
tim pool
Shapiro could be Gen X. No Gen X presidents.
libby emmons
No, I mean, if we see like a Vance Newsom, that's like Gen X versus the millennials, right?
Which is like what it's been anyway.
shane cashman
Yeah.
libby emmons
In business and everywhere else.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
For a while now.
But like, yeah, a Gen X president would be weird.
Millennials are 15% of the house.
tim pool
Five millennials serve in the Senate.
That's amazing.
71 millennials currently hold federal elected office.
libby emmons
71 federal?
That's interesting.
tim pool
71 millennials in federal office.
libby emmons
What about Gen Xers, I wonder?
They're probably just at home, like microwaving a hungry man.
bradley devlin
But it's like interesting to see, like you mentioned that, you know.
tim pool
Zero.
Not a single Gen Xer.
I'm kidding, 100.
libby emmons
I would have believed you, too.
tim pool
41% are Gen X. Sounded okay.
That's kind of wild to think.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
The Pepsi generation is out there in Congress, you know what I mean?
Remember those commercials?
libby emmons
Yep.
phil labonte
The choice of new generation.
tim pool
Generation next.
bradley devlin
You talked about the boomers kind of...
And I'll adopt that framing for this, but it's kind of weird to see all these people who supposedly agreed on the ends and disagreed on the means living in and absolutely hating the world that their leadership and their parenting created.
libby emmons
That's because they have spent their entire lives, like since they, you know, since Woodstock or whatever, since they took their first hit of acid, they've been...
And even with their parents dead, they're rebelling against their parents.
Right?
That's still what's going on.
I mean, look at them in the old folks' home.
They're all dating each other.
They're smoking a lot of weed.
They're like, oh, we're cool.
It's like, no, you're just old and slutty.
bradley devlin
I'll go hit the No Kings rally.
shane cashman
Honestly, a lot of those no Kings rallies were old.
phil labonte
Yeah, the whole thing.
libby emmons
And the way you can tell that we don't have a king is because you're...
No one cares.
You get to do what you want.
shane cashman
Because they are the generation of denial.
libby emmons
Yes.
shane cashman
Like the way they parented.
libby emmons
They deny everything.
shane cashman
Yes.
libby emmons
They parented Gen X one way.
Then they parented the millennials the other way.
I don't have a chip on my shoulder at all.
But they're out there doing completely different things.
They're running around.
They're still doing the exact same stupid stuff they were doing.
shane cashman
And if you happen to do something different than they did as a parent today, they take it as an affront.
To their parenting.
I'm not saying all of you.
libby emmons
Here's the other thing.
The boomers, there's this whole...
I know we hang out and talk about this stuff a bit.
But if you look, there's all these posts from Gen Xers and millennials being like, when I was a kid, I spent a lot of time with my grandparents.
They would drop us off for a whole month with our grandparents, and we loved it.
My mom is somewhere.
I don't know.
She's on a mission trip or she's with her fifth husband.
I don't know.
She's definitely not coming by.
I will say I love my mom.
I adore my mom.
Whatever.
You got to say that.
She came over on Christmas.
If I may, for just a moment.
I'm sorry, you guys.
She came over on Christmas.
I made this whole dinner.
You know, I cook.
I make a whole thing.
She comes over.
She doesn't eat anything I make.
Instead, she eats a kiwi fruit and some feta cheese.
And when my son, you know, my kid, he adores you.
He looks at Grandma and he goes, Grandma, what are you eating?
Mom made this whole thing.
I've been in the kitchen for hours.
She goes, fuel.
shane cashman
Yeah.
libby emmons
Okay.
Thank you, boomers.
We're good now.
shane cashman
Yeah.
I don't see my parents as much as I thought I would.
But that is something amongst that generation.
Like, I just see it.
It's a lot of them.
I know.
It's not everyone's.
I'm going to get some message.
Like, it's not me.
I guarantee it's not you.
But it's a lot of you.
And it is, I think, what you're saying, that rebellion, which I have in me too, but like...
It's gotta stop with reality in me.
Like I do have some lines in the sand, but my parents just keep They're so distant.
Yeah.
libby emmons
They're so distant, yet critical.
bradley devlin
Yeah.
So one of the things that you brought up was how Gen X, even in the private sector, has been skipped over, right?
So these boomers are retiring, and then all of a sudden, we're What are they trying to do?
They're trying to elevate millennials.
libby emmons
The boomers are doing that.
bradley devlin
The boomers are elevating.
Yes, boomers are retiring and the boomers that remain are elevating millennials.
That's what's happening.
phil labonte
I don't understand exactly why.
libby emmons
No one knows.
bradley devlin
This is my thing.
Is their refusal to retire into these super late stages of their lives, their refusal to give up power?
I mean, I'm a Catholic.
We even see this dynamic in the church, frankly.
unidentified
Yeah, we sure do.
bradley devlin
Is it a...
They will never admit it, but is it part of an awakening where they realize that they've squandered the inheritance that was given to them by the greatest generation?
libby emmons
No, they don't realize that because they are entitled to it.
They feel very entitled to it, and they plan to squander whatever left of it they have.
So that they don't have to give it to their kids.
bradley devlin
And they project that entitlement onto everybody else.
libby emmons
Yeah, and also don't forget the Millennials have really nice CVs because they all have these participation trophies so they can really pad it up.
phil labonte
Wait, were they the ones that were actually getting the participation?
libby emmons
They were the ones getting the participation trophies.
phil labonte
Yeah, the millennials.
What a shame.
What a terrible idea that was.
libby emmons
And then Gen X is like ultra-competent, but they're ultra-competent in that way that people with traumatized childhoods are ultra-competent.
unidentified
It's like these are all just trauma responses.
bradley devlin
They're ultra-competent, but totally completely stay to themselves.
Don't know how to lead.
libby emmons
Don't want to lead.
bradley devlin
Don't want to lead.
libby emmons
Leave us alone.
Right, Phil?
unidentified
That's it.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, we were the latchkey kids.
We were the ones that were left to go figure yourself out most of the time.
libby emmons
And it's no wonder that so many of us voted for Trump and got the country back, and now we're like, no, you can't go to war.
Come on.
Just stay home.
Make yourself a PB&J.
It'll be fine.
phil labonte
It will be fine.
bradley devlin
Take yourself a PBJ.
Go to the store, buy some Jiffin Schmuckers and shut up.
phil labonte
There's not enough...
He's got to know.
libby emmons
I think he does know.
I bet his advisors are telling him.
I mean, he's got Vance, who my guess is...
And we actually ran a story at human events over the weekend with some inside sources who were like, basically, hey, Mr. President, don't do this.
Don't go along with that.
bradley devlin
Everybody that I talks to with their head screwed on straight, in my opinion, are of the anti-war mindset.
and this is a We talked a little bit about the Big Beautiful Bill.
We talked a little bit about the appropriations process.
But what do you think is coming down the pike?
What was one of the things that they tried to handcuff Trump with in the waning days of the Biden administration?
What is one of the biggest mistakes that Mike Johnson made as Speaker of the House?
It was that $95 billion supplement.
unidentified
Wait, was that basically what got McCarthy out?
bradley devlin
No, the debt limit deal plus general government spending levels is ultimately what did McCarthy in.
This was in the spring of 2024.
It was Israel gets hit on October 7th.
They pass about $10.5 billion, I believe, in aid to Israel.
then 2024 rolls around and at the time mcconnell mitch mcconnell was advocating for attaching a 95 billion dollar supplemental uh foreign aid package for ukraine the indo-pacific and israel to keeping the government open he was rebuffed by his conference that ultimately ends in mitch mcconnell saying that He's going to step down as Senate leader.
That enraged everyone.
But one of the mistakes that Mike Johnson made, that Republican leaders made, was they decided to go forward with this supplemental spending package.
And it was only $12 billion, $14 billion-ish for Israel.
It was another...
$12, $10 billion for our pivot to the Indo-Pacific, and another $60 billion was for Ukraine.
And it was one of the things that folks that I knew on the Trump campaign were concerned that it was going to blow up the coalition in the run-up to the election.
Because if these are the leaders that we have, if this is the Congress that we have— What's the point of all this?
And so they were concerned that Trump was going to win the election and go in there without both chambers.
They were concerned that that was going to cost them the trifecta.
And frankly, in a certain way, it almost did.
It really almost did.
And we're going to have another supplemental spending package, another foreign aid package, coming down the pike with what's going on right now in Iran, for sure.
Because Libya, you said this earlier, and I keep saying things that Libya has said.
Not Libya.
I said Libya.
But not Libya.
libby emmons
You could go back to middle school and they haunted me by calling me Libya.
bradley devlin
what Libby said earlier because she made a lot of good points which is Israel says that they can do this thing alone, but the retort to that is they actually really can't because just as Iran is facing restrictions or limitations in their own capabilities, the Israelis are going to face that too, and it's going to push Congress in the direction where they're going to have to act.
And what are they going to...
That's what I'm concerned about.
Are we going to do more Ukraine nonsense because we had to reposition assets away from the region and so we have to replace those things?
tim pool
You can almost guarantee.
Let's move on.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
We have this story from Raw's Alerts.
Hundreds if not thousands of kids and teenagers are staging anti-ice protests in Roblox.
shane cashman
Oh my.
tim pool
Hundreds if not thousands of kids across the country have taken a Roblox service to organize and stage virtual protests against ICE.
libby emmons
That's really funny.
tim pool
Young players are transforming the popular gaming platform into a hub of political expression.
The movement, coordinated through group chats, is rapidly gaining traction, especially in Brookhaven, Roblox's most popular server.
At the same time, some players are role-playing as ICE agents, conducting raids on illegals, and even opening fire on anti-ICE protesters in the game.
What this says to me, kids are going to grow up living in...
Like in that Black Mirror episode where everybody lived in a box that was all TVs and they had an avatar version of themselves in the audience, but they never actually went anywhere.
This is what kids are turning into.
Don't let your kids watch tablets or iPads.
And I'm going to say this.
I know a lot of parents out there that purport to be conservative, and they give all their kids tablets and mesmerize them with it.
And your kids are going to grow up to be developmentally disabled.
This is the kind of stuff that's happening.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe the amount of people that I've seen who have kids and claim to be conservative, claim to be aware of what's going on, and then I see them hand a tablet to their kid and then turn around.
And I'm like, yo, your kid is going to be, their brain will be jello.
shane cashman
Outsourcing parenting to the digital landscape.
Is poison.
And on top of all that, you also don't know who else is playing this.
Like, you know, when I did that story with the predators and stuff, a lot of those sick people, demons, are using things like Roblox to talk to kids, too.
Pretending to be kids and lure them out of the house.
Straight up pedophiles.
Like, straight up demon pedophiles.
libby emmons
It's a lot, like they'll pay kids in Now I can't say what I wanted to say, which is we should all create accounts and be ICE agents.
No, I mean, we could, and then we could go after those guys.
bradley devlin
Go after the pedophile?
libby emmons
Yeah, we'd be like, we're ICE agents and Roblox, and we're taking you down, mofos.
tim pool
But these kids are going to grow up, and it's funny because you see this, their political action is going to be The state will be able to do whatever it wants, whatever it wants, as long as they can live their life in a virtual reality.
And I wonder if that is a goal and intention of powerful corporate interests.
phil labonte
Well, if people are in a virtual reality, then they're not going to be motivated to go out and protest and stuff, especially when they can protest in the virtual reality where it's the ultimate slack.
tim pool
There's not going to be any real protest.
You're going to go into virtual reality, and you're going to be a demon slayer, and you're going to have exactly what you want.
And then when it comes to...
Indeed.
And no one will care because they grew up on it.
It's exactly like Let me tell you this.
What if I told you A number with the federal government where they would document and log you and your history and your work and what your family does.
What would you say?
shane cashman
They already do.
tim pool
Exactly.
shane cashman
They live in a police state.
tim pool
And when you bring up that idea to people, they don't care.
They go, what do you mean?
We all get registered digital serial numbers with the government when we're born.
shane cashman
Not if you have a home birth out there.
tim pool
You're still legally required to do it.
libby emmons
You still are.
shane cashman
You don't have to give them a social security number.
I'm just telling you it's a recommendation.
tim pool
And then they're undocumented.
unidentified
Yes.
shane cashman
It will cause problems for that child possibly in the future.
tim pool
They will be called undocumented.
And what they are doing in the public space by calling illegal immigrants undocumented is lumping up anybody who doesn't enter the machine state with anybody who came here illegally.
You're the same thing.
libby emmons
I didn't get a social security number until I was like eight or nine years old.
shane cashman
Really?
libby emmons
Yeah.
shane cashman
How'd that happen?
libby emmons
Well, because my parents were, you know, doing their own thing.
And so I didn't have a social security number.
I didn't get baptized.
shane cashman
Was it like a rebellion of?
libby emmons
No, they just literally could not be bothered.
tim pool
Now it's all automatic.
libby emmons
Is it automatic?
I had to apply for my son's 15 years ago.
tim pool
When you're born, they just gave us documents and said, sign here, sign here, sign here, sign here.
libby emmons
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
In the hospital.
If you're in a hospital, they just come and it's just like part of the whole thing.
tim pool
So these kids are going to grow up in much the same way.
My grandpa told me this a long time ago.
Rest in peace.
He was saying when they told us we'd have to register with the government and get numbers, people were losing it.
They were furious.
Like, what?
We got to register and get a government serial number?
What do you think this is?
And now he's like, you're all born with it.
You don't care.
libby emmons
Did you see the thing where there are a lot of American airlines, like I think it's American, Delta, and United, and they sell passenger data to the federal government?
tim pool
Wow.
libby emmons
So they're tracking where you go and all that stuff, and they sell it to the government.
And then Palantir, which I'm sure you have very strong opinions on.
shane cashman
Don't get me started.
libby emmons
I know.
shane cashman
They sponsored that lovely parade.
libby emmons
Yes.
They are working with federal government to consolidate all the data so that there's no divisions between – Yeah, unfortunately, they've been doing that since 2003.
They've been doing that for a while, but that's kind of...
it'll be much easier when they decide to implement the social credit system.
bradley devlin
So you guys are more of my libertarian friends than...
libby emmons
I'm just opposed to everyone.
bradley devlin
What was counter-revolutionary and anti-communist?
Can I call you all that?
unidentified
Look, that's pretty accurate.
bradley devlin
This Palantir thing and the Doge effort to sync up the government data, right?
One of the big complaints from Elon, the computers aren't talking.
tim pool
Make story, made up.
bradley devlin
The computers aren't talking to each other.
tim pool
Story's fake.
bradley devlin
Story's fake.
tim pool
The New York Times ran the story and the headline didn't match with their reporting.
And the reporting said – I love it.
They use that language where they're like – And I was like, wait, what?
Everybody just ran with it.
All the conservatives said, wow, I can't believe Trump would do that.
And I'm like, yeah, I didn't either.
So we pulled the story up and the New York Times said, we think Palantir might do this.
shane cashman
And I was like, what?
Palantir said they weren't doing it, but I think they've been doing it since 2003.
And the people in the administration are still talking about it like it's going to happen.
And there's a report that just came out today about Trump switching over to a lot of AI systems in the coming weeks.
bradley devlin
My question is less about Palantir and more about the principle of the thing.
Are you guys in favor or opposed to, as Elon said, the computers talking to each other within the government to make it more efficient?
tim pool
That, what you just described, sounds completely fine.
bradley devlin
Completely fine?
tim pool
Computers and government talking to each other would be more efficient.
So that like the federal government as a single entity, they have a single database so the IRS can see – Can the humans understand the language that the computers are using?
phil labonte
That matters.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
I said, can the humans understand the language that the computers are using to talk to each other?
tim pool
Computers talking to each other just means that if you work for the IRS, you can see immigration data.
phil labonte
Okay, that's fine.
tim pool
It doesn't mean the computer is literally going, hey, immigration computer, let me talk to you.
phil labonte
Well, I'm talking about using AI or whatever.
There was that story about the AIs when they started talking to each other.
tim pool
That's not what this is.
So he's like, why can't we just actually see in the tax files?
We have the data over here.
My attitude is the government has access to it already.
It's already public data the government has.
I don't care if the IRS goes through it and can see what DHS has.
bradley devlin
One of the counters that I've heard from someone who is actually on the libertarian side of the spectrum is if I'm under investigation for something from the FBI or something like that, and I'm at the same time, I've never been convicted of anything, I'm innocent until proven guilty, and at the same time, I'm applying for a small business loan, for example.
Do I want the Small Business Administration to be able to see that I could be a no-good scoundrel?
tim pool
Except they usually have in the application, are you currently – There's even a box you can check on, you know, are you a no-good scoundrel?
bradley devlin
No, I know.
tim pool
You're required to.
bradley devlin
No, yeah, yeah, no.
that's the whole ban the box conversation but do you think I guess in the scenario that I was Let's just say there's information that the government has that shouldn't be handed over to all the different organizations.
tim pool
I think it should.
Hold on, hold on.
You've got to clarify what that means.
What data could one agency have that another agency should not have?
That's an important question.
bradley devlin
Let's see.
Because this was a comment from a friend, so I'll try to steal money.
libby emmons
What about your debt?
Like, what if you have tax debt that you're paying off?
Should every agency know about your debt?
bradley devlin
Okay, let's go with that.
tim pool
They already have the right to know these things for the most part, and so what?
libby emmons
No, you guys were looking for an example.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't care.
libby emmons
Yeah, that was the one I came up with.
tim pool
I mean, there's already credit reporting agencies, and they can just ping your credit whenever they want, whether you like it or not.
libby emmons
Do your taxes show up on your credit report?
I don't think they do.
The one thing that I think is, so when Obama did the ACA, there was a lot of consolidation of data, computerization of data that had not been done before.
And what that led to, right, was HIPAA, where you have to say, like, you agree that they can't share your data anywhere, or, like, you have to sign off on that.
I wonder if there is sensitive information that could be, you know, agreed upon of what sensitive information could be defined as if you could have some kind of HIPAA thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
bradley devlin
Or, I don't know if the armed EPA agents know this or can access this already, but do you want the armed EPA agents knowing that you are a registered gun owner?
phil labonte
Well, they're all armed.
tim pool
Every agency.
libby emmons
Every gun owner is armed.
tim pool
I think the benefit of the right to bear arms in a modern society is we do not want anybody shooting at cops.
We do want the government to fear its citizens.
So yes, I'd love it if they knew that I was a gun owner.
Now, I don't think I should have to register my guns and tell them what guns I have or anything like that.
That is a problem.
But I don't mind if law enforcement is like, hey, let's be very careful.
Go into this guy's house.
They should do that with everybody.
bradley devlin
Because I'm more inclined to think that those are like the second and third order effects of Doge that could really modernize and revolutionize government.
tim pool
The principal issue with government is corruption.
shane cashman
Yeah, because it's always going to turn into something.
They sell it with like good short-term benefits, like we're going to take care of immigration and stuff, which I want.
Mass deportations, but it turns into, I think, uglier stuff, especially who knows how the social credit score will work and what they could pull from from there.
It's going to be beyond just government collected data.
phil labonte
It's going to be, can you get a loan?
Can you, you know, use your credit card here?
Can you be in this place?
Can you fly?
Yeah, can you fly?
Those kind of things are the most obvious.
tim pool
The biggest problem is not, in my view, the sharing of data.
The biggest problem is that...
So the way I tend to explain it is, when you live in a small town, and Shane is a young man, and he's speeding down the highway, and he gets pulled over, and the deputy comes up to the car and he goes, Shane?
What am I going to tell your daddy when I see him down at the bar?
You were speeding again!
And you're like, oh, Deputy Smith, please don't tell my dad!
And then he's like, well, I'm going to tell him.
I'm going to let you off with a warning, but I'm going to see him, and he's going to whoop your ass when he gets home.
And you're like, ah, crap!
In a modern society, the cop walks up, and you go, excuse me, officer, and he goes, shut up.
Here's your ticket.
And you go, uh...
He goes, don't care, tell it to a judge.
And you're like, I wasn't speeding.
He goes, have a nice day and he leaves.
shane cashman
I agree with you, but it would be worse than that because it's going to be a drone that you don't even interact with.
tim pool
Exactly.
And the drone's going to pull you over and it's going to go, Shane Cashman, you are wanted for murder.
And you go, what?
And it's going to go, error.
Murder.
Error.
And you're going to be like, I'm not.
The Terminator is going to walk up to you and go, stop resisting.
And you go, yes.
And he goes, you are resisting.
Lethal force authorized.
And you're like, I'm not resisting.
shane cashman
I'm not.
libby emmons
We're like in the fifth element.
This is a police control.
tim pool
The problem is once we get all this shared data, once the government grows to that point, I've been watching Andor.
Have you guys watched Andor?
libby emmons
I haven't watched it in a bit.
tim pool
So the first season was from a few years ago, so this is not a spoiler.
But basically the main character is on the beach, and some guys are running from Imperials.
And then he's like, freaks out, so he like, scoots up pretty quick and goes up the stairs.
And then a trooper sees him and goes, hey, why are you running?
And he's like, I'm not.
I'm going to the store.
And then he's like, you're suspicious.
You must be with those guys.
And then he has a droid come and hold him and arrest him for a public disorder violation.
And then within hours, they bring him up for a magistrate, go public disorder.
He goes, I don't know what's going on.
I'm just a tourist.
And they go, six years.
Boom.
Off to prison.
That's what's going to happen.
libby emmons
It's like Les Mis.
shane cashman
Or I was going to say Kafka.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Trial, right?
libby emmons
There's gonna be like They don't even say public disorder.
tim pool
Yes, but the reason why it's not Kafka, you're going to go to court and you're going to be like, Your Honor, please.
I actually was not the guy they're looking for.
He ran past me.
I was walking down the street and he goes, Look, kid, you're probably right.
All I'm supposed to do is my job is to bang the gavel and send you to prison.
libby emmons
There are minimum requirements.
tim pool
Sorry.
What's that?
You're innocent?
You can prove it?
Look, man, all I do is bang the gavel.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Then the cop is like, you're probably innocent, but look, all I do is bring you to the car.
And everybody is just associated.
Nobody acts like a human.
We're already there.
We're already there.
Cops pull you over and say, don't care.
Fuck you.
Here's a ticket.
You're like, I didn't do anything wrong.
Don't care.
Tell it to a judge.
And then you're like, I gotta take off work to go fight this.
What do I do?
I can't afford that.
I guess I'll just pay it.
Spend a license.
shane cashman
So many people out there hate their jobs and hate everyone else.
I walk into a lot of establishments.
Maybe it's just a me thing, honestly.
But I walk into a lot of places and it's like they don't want your business.
They're actually mad that someone walked in to make them work.
unidentified
I hate that.
shane cashman
It's insane.
And it's widespread.
libby emmons
It happens all the time.
shane cashman
Especially at the airport.
libby emmons
Or like if you walk into a Starbucks and they just look at you and then they go back to doing the mobile orders and the drive-thru.
Or like I went to a Baskin-Robbins with my son and we were just like, let's get an ice cream.
Look, there's a Baskin-Robbins.
Let's get an ice cream.
We walk in.
They stand there.
You know, they're, like, doing drive-through and mobile orders.
We're like, hi!
They just, like, literally the person looked at me and then looked away.
And that was it.
We, like, stood there for a little bit, kept trying to get their attention, and then we left.
We did not get any ice cream.
tim pool
Because they have no pride in doing a job or any job.
Look, everybody knows this.
When you work fast food, you hate it when it's packed.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
But the business owner loves it when it's packed.
I mean, I think there's a problem with how businesses are run, to be completely honest.
If you tell your employees, look, you're going to get $15 an hour, that's it, no matter what.
It's like, okay, what if it's really busy?
I don't know.
Cross your fingers, hope they give you tips.
No, I would never run a business like that.
bradley devlin
Surge pricing?
tim pool
No, I'd tell my employees, like, we'll break it down by hour.
Anything that exceeds the standard level, like, here's how many orders we do per hour on average.
When that exceeds, we do surge payouts for the staff.
libby emmons
But would you do that if it was the reverse, if you go under that number of orders per hour?
tim pool
No.
libby emmons
If you average 10, but then you get 5, what would you pay them?
tim pool
Yeah, because average is average.
But if we're going over, then you're going to get a bonus for the excess that we do on these days.
I think they should do that.
But I do think you make a good point of sometimes business is bad and you've got to pay them anyway.
The problem with that is Jim gets scheduled for, you know, Tuesday and Wednesday morning, which are usually empty.
And then Rick is there on Sunday and he's got to work the 40 hours where it's double time.
And he's going, why do you keep scheduling me on Sunday?
Rick is on Tuesday and nobody ever comes in.
He's never doing any work.
And I've got to split tips with him?
Screw that.
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We got Mitho671.
He says, honestly, I'm kind of here for this fight.
Where do you think all the bombs that hurt and killed our military in Iraq and Afghanistan came from?
Indeed, from Iran.
And that is the argument.
There's a viral tweet going around right now saying that the U.S. just found a massive nuclear enrichment facility.
It's from a month ago, actually.
That's probably why they want to attack.
Once again, the argument is Iran's going to get nuclear weapons and they're going to make suitcase bombs and dirty bombs.
They're going to give them out to a bunch of crazy wackaloons and then...
That's the argument.
Alright.
Picorarad says camping gear makes good emergency preparedness gear.
You also get to use the camping gear to go camping.
A camping stove, ice in your freezer and some canned goods is great for a power outage.
You know what we love doing?
We have a camping stove.
Some propane.
We go down by the river.
You get a fire going or use the stove and it's just early morning, the river, you know.
libby emmons
Running to Chris Farley.
tim pool
There's box turtles walking around doing turtle stuff.
unidentified
I love them.
tim pool
It's great.
shane cashman
Turtles are great.
tim pool
They hide.
phil labonte
There are a lot of turtles around here.
shane cashman
There are.
tim pool
A lot of turtles.
shane cashman
A lot of deer at night.
Watch out for them.
tim pool
The Appalachian Path, you know.
libby emmons
Trail.
tim pool
Trail, there you go.
You walk down that, the canal, there's probably 20,000 turtles.
Like, not even kidding.
You see a log?
15 turtles on them.
And the turtles, it's crazy because they're big.
I'm like, those guys are like 20 or 30 years old.
Crazy big guys.
shane cashman
You're a turtle.
Come to West Virginia.
tim pool
It's the place to be.
libby emmons
It's not a bad spot to be a turtle.
shane cashman
We do love turtles.
Take your time.
libby emmons
There was a bunch of flooding on the other side of the state, though.
Did you guys see that?
tim pool
I mean, we've gotten more rain than we've ever gotten ever.
It's been raining, and it's going to start again all week.
It's crazy.
We've been dealing with flooding.
We have pumps.
Yeah, so we've got to figure that out.
But for those that are fans of Fallout 76, have you ever played that video game?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Based in West Virginia.
libby emmons
Yeah, he tells me all about it.
tim pool
When you go to the river, you will hear these loud squeaking sounds.
Those are the spring peepers.
shane cashman
I love the spring peepers.
tim pool
Yep, we got them all over.
And it's funny, I'm playing Fallout and I can hear the peeper track and I'm like, we got those spring peepers.
Little frogs.
Around March, they start going meep, meep.
Really loud.
It's great.
They're basically saying, hey girl!
For real, that's what they're yelling.
Because the girls don't make the sounds, only the boys do.
It is.
The boys thaw out.
They're standing there, and they're going, which is their equivalent of, yo, girl, come over.
I got a place.
shane cashman
They're just catcalling.
tim pool
Literally.
shane cashman
Little frogs.
tim pool
There was a comic.
bradley devlin
First thing when I do when I wake up, I start catcalling.
libby emmons
Yeah, you and the little sexy frog.
tim pool
There was a comic.
I can't remember who it was from, but it was like all the birds were singing, and they were just like, Man, I wish I could understand what those birds were saying and know their language.
And then a genie was like, granted!
And then you hear them all being like, I want to get laid!
They're all screaming because the girls don't scream.
They're just being like, hey girl!
And then the girls come find the guy and the girl comes to the frog and she's like, you pee pretty loud.
And he's like, damn right.
And then they hook up and have frog babies.
shane cashman
On that note, I'm going to head out, guys.
I'll see you all later.
Thank you.
It was great seeing you all.
10 o 'clock, YouTube Rumble, Inverted World Live.
Call-ins, phone lines are open until midnight.
See you all there.
tim pool
Phone lines are open.
shane cashman
That's it.
unidentified
Cheers, bud.
libby emmons
You must get crazy call-ins.
tim pool
We need ghost stories.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what it is.
I went on a road trip when I was driving from the North Dakota Pipeline protest across the U.S., and all I did was listen to this podcast where it was people who called in and told ghost stories, and it was the best podcast.
I can't remember what it's called.
libby emmons
I listen to a lot of those ghost story podcasts.
I don't like the true crime, but I like the ghost stories ones.
tim pool
Because there's some old guy, and he's like, I went down in my basement.
unidentified
And I saw a man with a sword.
libby emmons
Do you ever listen to Radio Rental?
tim pool
I was like, whoa, that's crazy.
libby emmons
Radio Rental has creepy ghost stories type things.
tim pool
Tales from the Inverted World has creepy ghost stories.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's good too.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more.
What is this?
Neboop says WC-135R Constant Phoenix is airborne in the U.S. nuclear detection aircraft only up when there are threats.
China warns of Chinese to leave Israel via road.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Spice Chip says, Tim, he sent an IRL months ago.
The deep state would allow Trump to be the Republican nominee in exchange for continued wars.
Indeed.
My point was that Trump went to the deep state and says, I said, maybe he surrenders.
Maybe he gets a deal.
Trump goes, listen, this constant war of trying to put me in prison is not working.
My base is strong.
You're not going to win.
I don't want to keep fighting.
Leave me alone.
They say, OK, here's the deal.
We'll let you run America as you want, but we get war with Iran.
Maybe Trump said yes.
Israel-Iran trending 1.42 million posts.
libby emmons
Wow.
tim pool
I swear we're going to wake up and it's going to be like U.S. jets bombed by Iran because we've already had Iranian-backed rebels attacking U.S. military assets.
Sirens across northern Israel following another barrage of Iranian missiles.
All installations across the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command area of responsibility have raised their forest protection condition from...
Is Bravo worse?
I don't know what that means.
phil labonte
I have no idea.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
It's like five minutes ago.
Alright, let's grab some more.
bradley devlin
Uh-oh.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
We're loading it up again.
Let's see what we got.
bradley devlin
Just want to shout out that Roblox guy.
Yeah, he's waving a Mexican flag and his avatar has a Lakers jersey on.
I think it's the most apt.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's pretty good.
tim pool
Alright, we got Schlip who says the Short Act and Hearing Protection Act are both in the Senate Finance Bill.
phil labonte
Yes, they are.
tim pool
This makes me harder than John Bolton thinking about war with Iran.
phil labonte
It's great news that the Short Act made it.
I can't believe it, but it actually might.
tim pool
So this is short-barreled rifles and suppressors.
phil labonte
Short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns.
tim pool
I am going to buy so many.
We went out with Phoenix Ammunition, and he had a...
So classified as an SBR, an NFA item.
And it's just the safety of it, you know?
The safety increase of this weapon.
Because the accuracy.
Now imagine if these guys in Utah had short-barreled rifles, 9mm, instead of these handguns where they couldn't aim.
Their accuracy would have been better, and they wouldn't have killed the innocent bystander, only the innocent man they were shooting at.
libby emmons
That would have been such an improvement.
tim pool
And you got me defending Antifa again!
I don't like him, but you're allowed to open carry in Utah.
They shot at some random guy for open caring.
That's insane.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's nuts.
tim pool
Jeez.
Anyway.
libby emmons
And then the cops seem to be backing them for doing it.
phil labonte
Seemed to be.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Soapy Enigma says, can we call this the Summer of Kings instead of Summer of Love 2.0?
I liked it.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Summer of Kings.
libby emmons
Every home a castle, every man a king.
tim pool
You see what Michael Malice posted?
libby emmons
What?
No, I didn't see it.
tim pool
It was an AI image of Martin Luther King Jr.
And it said...
Day is racist against white people.
Hashtag no kings.
Spread the word.
Something like that.
No kings.
All right.
Heron Gaming News says, do you think that it's possible the police won't arrest the 50501 terrorist that ended that guy in black because they want to wait until the officers aren't in danger?
The guy in black was arrested and charged with murder.
The guys who did the shooting haven't been arrested or charged.
It was some random guy walking past who was shot and killed.
Very weird.
I think they're trying to cover up right now that the liberal organizers of the event were the ones that killed a random person.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Something doesn't make sense.
They don't want the narrative in the news to be no King's protest organizers shoot and kill innocent bystander.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
That's why even in media, liberals are claiming the guy who got arrested was the shooter.
libby emmons
Because they're not following the...
tim pool
Or they're intentionally trying to obfuscate what really happened.
I'm seeing activists.
They don't want to take responsibility for this.
They don't want to say, oh, that was us.
They're saying, yeah, that crazy guy with the rifle, you know, they got him and they're calling him the shooter.
It's crazy.
All right.
Your boy says, Phil, if World War Three really happens, you very well could be all that remains.
phil labonte
It's terrible.
Dad jokes.
tim pool
All right.
Jay Jones Clark says, Tim Kasker, have any of you seen Clayton Morris' interview with Daniel and Shelley Rawlings on Redacted?
What's your thoughts?
I haven't.
What is it?
phil labonte
I haven't either.
tim pool
No idea.
phil labonte
Sorry, homie.
tim pool
Well, all right.
MF Damien says, I voted for the opposite of getting involved.
If we do, impeach his ass.
A, not our business.
B, can't afford it fiscally or karmically.
You know, this is the challenge.
Are you really going to vote for a Democrat if Trump goes to war with Iran?
A lot of people are not going to vote for Trump, but I don't know that I could muster up a vote for any Democrat.
libby emmons
Not any of the ones that are certainly on the horizon right now.
tim pool
War with Iran would have come under the Biden administration all the same.
And anti-woke is the minor net positive I'm willing to take.
Libertarians won't back Trump, though.
So Democrats will get a boost.
So we'll see what happens.
bradley devlin
A lot of people will stay home.
That's, you know, I respect the call for impeachment and being irritated about this.
I think I've made myself very clear that I'm not happy with this situation either.
But like, what?
You're going to get a majority of the House to vote against President Trump?
tim pool
Yeah, right.
bradley devlin
You're going to get two-thirds of the Senate?
To vote against President Trump on this particular issue where there has been a lot of bipartisan support, whether that's genuine or manufactured by our current political system, you're not going to get that.
The best thing that you could do is make yourself heard in the ballot box and make yourself heard in the public square.
I think one of the things that we underestimate a lot is how closely, whether that's this administration or previous administrations, do pay attention to the online discourse.
And use that to the best of their ability to figure out where the American people are at.
And luckily, if you are loud, louder than the pro-war contingent, maybe you can have your voices heard before then.
phil labonte
Who's the pro-war contingent?
unidentified
Huh?
phil labonte
Who's the pro-war condition?
tim pool
Neocons?
bradley devlin
Yeah, all the neocons.
tim pool
The people who supported DeSantis are largely, you know, they love to go, I'm not pro-war.
And I've seen a lot of these people say, pro-war is such a stupid thing to call it.
Nobody wants the war.
And I'm like, I'm generally just saying you support U.S. involvement in foreign conflict.
bradley devlin
And like, let's look at how this narrative has shifted for the last, you know, however long this has been happening, 72 hours, more than that now.
This is Israel's war.
We're not asking you to send your boys and girls overseas.
This is Israel's war, but we still need some assistance to actually get the job done.
This is Israel's war, but we're so excited to have your Nimitz class, your Nimitz group, and your—what were the planes?
The refueling planes and your war assets repositioned to the region so that if— I love that.
libby emmons
Did you see that in Wag the Dog?
Yeah.
When the fit hits the Shan, somebody's going to have to stay after school.
And Robert De Niro goes, I have no idea what you're talking about.
bradley devlin
Yeah, I mean, but that's the thing, right?
like this is how quickly this narrative has shifted.
And those are the people who I am interpreting now as...
This is what Bannon's been saying over and over and over again.
Hey, you pursued your national interest.
You have to make sure that you can do this by yourself, or this is not something that's in our interest.
tim pool
John N says, let's talk about how much support Trump will lose over this, and he loses the midterms, House and maybe Senate.
I don't know.
I think we're going to see all the polls skyrocket and the media is going to be like, you know, this is the first time we've seen Trump truly doing what a president needs to do.
phil labonte
That's generally what they do.
tim pool
Rachel Maddow is going to come out and she's going to say, I was wrong about Trump.
He's the greatest president for putting Bruce on the ground.
libby emmons
She's going to love it.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
Yeah.
bradley devlin
I think it'll stay.
I think it's all baked in at this point.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm not so sure that – I mean I think the only thing that can derail – at this point, the Democrats are in such a mess and in such disarray.
So just as long as the economy's, you know, plugging along and people are feeling like they're going to be employed and their job is safe and they're feeling like they can pay the bills, then I think that's the best chance the Republicans have.
bradley devlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
In the fall.
tim pool
It's a dangerous situation.
bradley devlin
The approval rating can only go down.
tim pool
I think there's no off-ramp because they say that every seven years, every cell in your body has been changed.
And that means people like Mark Ruffalo are composed of cells that are ingrained in hating Trump.
There's nothing you can do to break that image from his mind.
You can try to explain that that story was a lie and this story was a lie.
But we're talking about a flower that has grown in a pot of, I hate Trump.
You're going to try and go all the way back to the origins of Trump and try and correct every single lie they've ever seen.
It's not possible.
Because in their mind, the average person doesn't know or remember the data points they've collected that brought them to that point.
So it's not even an issue of, listen, you hate Trump because of these stories principally.
It's, you don't even remember why you hate Trump.
When you see a video of him, your brain goes into the, this is wrong for all the reasons, I assume, trying to explain to someone why, like when that soy pill guy came on and said, Trump didn't call, he did say he wants to condemn the neo-Nazis, but he made the argument that Trump and everybody knew it was organized by neo-Nazis, so Trump shouldn't have been defending it at all.
They're still always going to make an excuse why it doesn't matter if they're wrong because they're technically right.
So take an anti-Trump person, seven years later, and their entire body is just ingrained.
Orange man bad.
I doubt you'll be able to pull them out of that cult.
libby emmons
People do come out of it.
I mean, you remember Brandon Strzok, who did the walk away?
He had a whole thing about that.
tim pool
That was a long time ago.
libby emmons
It was a long time ago.
tim pool
The question that I'm asking is, some people may still break out, for sure.
Trump is doing well.
But I'm saying, like, there are people that are just gone.
I don't see that.
Like, Rosie O'Donnell?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't see her coming back.
bradley devlin
And it's hard to see America humming in the next four years in the same way that it was humming in 2019.
I mean, we were moving and grooving.
You know, there were some unanswered campaign promises.
We were struggling to get the wall built.
We were struggling to bring the troops home.
Deportations were not at the levels that they currently are at.
But as you said, Phil, at the end of the day, it was the economy.
And that economy was going gangbusters until, you know, Wuhan.
phil labonte
Until COVID.
bradley devlin
Wuhan went on us.
And it's hard to imagine, I think, an economic scenario in the next 18 months where we can get there, even if they're able to pass this big, beautiful bill by July 4th.
phil labonte
I agree with you.
I don't think that I think the key to winning is having an economy where people don't feel like they don't feel the inflation anymore and they don't feel like they're treading water and still drowning or they're constantly getting behind.
tim pool
One last one.
We got Corn Pop who says the airport in Israel is closed until further notice, Tim.
Nobody can leave.
The airports.
The airspace in Israel is closed down.
So the only ins and outs are by road, and we know who surrounds...
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
But we know who's surrounding Israel, so good luck with that.
libby emmons
There were a bunch of Israelis who ended up stuck in Cyprus.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
And I saw some footage.
Nine people managed to get a tugboat to take them home.
tim pool
Wow.
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You watching that Timcast IRL?
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Thank you.
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Bradley, do you want to shut anything out?
bradley devlin
Yes.
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libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
You can find me at Libby Emmons on X. You can sign up for my newsletter at thepostmillennial.com slash Libby, and I'd love if you do that.
And I just wanted to shout out a Tim Kast fan that I met at Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Summit over the weekend.
Andrea McPherson, who has a new brand called Sayor that's all made in the United States.
And I bought this shirt and I love it.
And I just wanted to...
Resort wear made in the United States by a conservative woman and it's all really pretty.
phil labonte
Nice.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Very cool, right?
That's so cool.
I love that.
phil labonte
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tim pool
We will see you all over at Rumble.com for the Uncensored Call-In Show.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
We are here, my friends, and we got some news for you.
FBI's Joint Terror Task Force arrested Peter Stinson, accusing him of threatening to kill President Trump.
They got him, boys.
There's also that woman—who's that woman who—she had the sign calling for, like, beheading Trump?
That politician?
bradley devlin
Oh, you're talking about the old one, like Kathy Griffin, the comedian?
tim pool
Nope, there was a woman at the protest over the weekend carrying a beheaded Trump.
phil labonte
Oh, this past weekend?
No.
tim pool
How does nobody know anything about all the crazy shit that happened this weekend?
It's crazy.
phil labonte
I have no idea.
tim pool
Just like this weekend, his Father's Day, so everybody was having burgers or something?
I tweeted about the Democrats murdering that dude, and everybody responded with, what are you talking about?
phil labonte
I heard about that.
tim pool
I was like, what?
What?
phil labonte
I heard about that right when it happened, but I don't know anything about the other thing you were talking about.
What are you saying?
bradley devlin
Decapitated head Trump over the weekend?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
She issued a statement, even.
Man, this is wild.
bradley devlin
Tim, you know things.
tim pool
Let's see.
Van von Hoffen, I think that's it.
I think this one's it.
Trump beheading posts by NC State rep prompts calls for her resignation.
bradley devlin
Oh, jeez.
tim pool
Do they even have the post here?
I mean, this has been so ongoing.
phil labonte
She posted something on, like, her socials?
tim pool
She had a picture of she was holding...
It says, in these difficult times, some cuts are necessary.
And she was holding Trump's head.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I saw the guillotine picture.
tim pool
That Democrat woman who called for batting Trump?
You saw that?
They didn't know about it.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No one can hear you.
unidentified
We're on?
tim pool
Yes.
libby emmons
We're on.
Hi, everyone.
tim pool
Libby knew about it.
libby emmons
I did hear about that, yeah.
phil labonte
I saw the picture of the guillotine thing.
I didn't know that she was a Democrat or she was a politician.
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