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June 18, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump Demands IRAN SURRENDER NOW, Mobilizes For WAR, Jets Deployed | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Donald Trump has demanded Iran's unconditional surrender.
He didn't speak tonight.
The U.S. seems to be mobilizing jets now across Europe.
And increasingly, the speculation is the U.S. is preparing for some kind of direct intervention.
The Pali market predictions are up.
Boys, I hope you are prepared for U.S. involvement because it seems like that will be the case.
The question is, to what degree?
Will it be full-scale invasion, regime change, or just air support?
Maybe just logistics?
Refueling?
We don't know for sure, but we'll break that down.
Plus, we've got a bunch of other news.
Kristi Noem was rushed to the hospital with an allergic reaction, which is alarming, but she appears to be okay.
And then a Democrat mayor—I'm sorry, a Democrat mayoral candidate was arrested trying to stop an ICE proceeding, linking arms with the man.
And he was actually seen aiding one of these guys before he ended up getting arrested.
This is weird.
And then that Padilla guy, I don't know if his name's actually pronounced Padilla, Senator.
He cried today as he was recounting his being detained for storming into a DHS meeting.
Oh boy.
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You know, we got a couple of guests joining us tonight.
First off, we got Mike Harlow.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, dude.
I'm happy to be back here.
I think it's kind of hilarious that I was just on Pop Culture Crisis talking about the national nightmare that is the Sex and the City reboot, and now I'm here discussing World War III.
But there's no way I'd rather.
Yeah.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Jack Posobiec's here.
jack posobiec
I am here tonight.
I have arrived on TimCast to officially announce my candidacy to be the next Shah of Iran.
I feel like the current leadership, you know, they're on their way out, and it's time.
Time for Poso.
It's time for Poso the Shah to take the reins.
I will decide what we do with the nuclear program, okay?
I'm going to tell you that right now, but I think I do a good job.
So, what do you say, guys?
Let's do it.
tim pool
And then on the topic...
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
Isn't it a wonderful evening?
My name is Elad Eliyahu.
I'm the White House correspondent here at TimCast.
I grew the mustache for the occasion today.
Phil, how's it going?
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the big breaking news.
We got this from the BBC.
Trump demands Iran's unconditional surrender.
Oh, boy.
Now, this is a live tracking page.
It says Trump says we are not going to kill Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
He says we know exactly where the Ayatollah is.
He is an easy target but is safe there.
But he warns our patience is wearing thin and then posts unconditional surrender.
It has been five days since Israel began attacking Iran.
Both sides continue to fire at each other.
Iran warns people in Tel Aviv and Haifa to evacuate.
While in Tehran, there are reports of more explosions.
Many Iranians are trying to flee to Iran, but others warn they have nowhere to go.
The U.S. says it is not involved with Israel's airstrikes.
Whether it eventually joins is in the 3,000-pound question, writes Frank Gardner.
Now, according to The Hill, the U.S. is positioning its military to potentially join the Israel war with Iran.
We've got reports of fighter jets mobilizing.
I think we might have some images.
There's refueling tankers are continuing to mobilize.
It seems now...
Jack, we gonna join the war?
jack posobiec
Well, I suppose it really comes down to how you define are we joining the war?
As we've seen, Israel thus far has conducted a range of strikes on the nuclear program, but also on oil infrastructure, oil facilities, missile defense, air defense, missile silos, airfields, airports, etc., etc., and military leadership.
President Trump so chooses.
I think the big question has been specifically on the nuclear facilities that reside at this position that are far lower, the Fordow site, far lower than any of the Israeli bombs or missiles can be able to penetrate.
So that's really one of the big questions, although I'm told that at the National Security Council meeting this evening, a range of options were discussed.
phil labonte
A range of options, too.
Do you think it's likely, because right now it's my sense that there's still support, basically what we're seeing is support aircraft and support systems.
Do you think it's likely that the U.S. joins and actually strikes?
jack posobiec
Well, at this point, that's one of the...
So one option could be pursue diplomacy for longer.
I think a lot of people think that that ship has sailed at this point, given just reading the tea leaves and seeing everything that's going on out there.
And so the U.S. military prepositioning all these forces creates optionality for the president as commander in chief.
And no decision has been made yet, as we've seen the the.
And so those options range from potentially just this limited strike against certain facilities, all the way up to a wider range of strikes, all the way up to—and Lindsey Graham, the senator, and a lot of the neocons are really calling for this full-scale regime change operation in Iran right now, led by the U.S. military, working in conjunction with Israel and others.
phil labonte
Does anyone around the table think that an actual regime change effort is something that's realistic in the future?
tim pool
Well, there's the probability that it does happen.
I think the probability is low right now.
I think U.S. strikes are incredibly likely.
It's a random ballpark number, but I'd say 65-70% that the U.S. does some kind of airstrike.
I'd say maybe a 30% that we simply engage in assistance of Israel, like refueling and things like that.
And then maybe single digits, full-on regime change.
elad eliahu
I think it's worth mentioning that it's been MAGA doctrine since Trump has been involved in politics that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
When Trump, when President Trump first got, began getting involved in politics during the Obama era, one of the.
And it was clear that from then, and he released recently like a press statement, and even on his Twitter, his rapid response Twitter account, going back like a decade, there are videos of him saying, I would not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon.
And even today, in response to a question about how Tulsi Gabbard said, Iran isn't getting close to your nuclear weapon.
He said, I don't care what she said.
I think they were very close to having it.
So I think that he's actually been very clear on the facts of the case here with not allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon.
And I think he's fulfilling that promise.
So as far as I'm concerned, I think there's promises made, promises kept by Donald Trump.
I'm satisfied.
From our ally really doing our dirty work.
I think that the Jews are doing our dirty work in the Middle East and diminishing Iran's offensive capabilities against us.
I think it would be a good thing if our allies took care of our enemies as well as Israel did our enemies.
Like if South Korea took care of the North Korea issue or if Japan and Taiwan took care of China or if Europe pulled their weight over with the war against Russia and Ukraine.
jack posobiec
Is there anywhere in the world that you think that we shouldn't be at war?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
I agree.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
If the statement is Korea should be responsible for itself and Israel should be responsible for itself and we're not involved in any of it, done.
unidentified
Agreed.
elad eliahu
That's a good ally.
An ally that is able to diminish the capacities of our enemies and isn't burdening us.
I think Ukraine's been a burdensome ally.
They haven't been very successful in pushing back.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
We sent them a fair amount of military assistance.
tim pool
I don't know what we called them.
So you're saying, colloquially, you consider them, they're not a formal ally.
unidentified
We're basically their sugar daddy at this point.
jack posobiec
Is there a list?
I mean, I was in the U.S. military.
I was in the intel community.
I don't remember getting this list of these are the countries that are allies and these are the countries that are allies.
elad eliahu
Well, I can tell you for sure the countries that yell death to America and death to Israel are definitely not our allies.
jack posobiec
So like Canada.
elad eliahu
Not our allies.
And I actually think there are many extremely subversive Canadians in our media system.
I think we should get rid of many Canadian media figures in our country.
jack posobiec
What do you mean get rid of?
elad eliahu
I'm being dead serious.
I'm serious right now, actually.
I think there are many subversive Canadians who are involved in our media ecosystem who don't speak for making America great again.
unidentified
Like who?
jack posobiec
Jordan Peterson?
elad eliahu
There's many of them.
Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder, Lauren Chen for a while.
Okay, what?
Didn't he grow?
Okay.
No, no.
Misquote him.
phil labonte
He grew out of it.
elad eliahu
I think there's some Sarah, Sarah girl.
There's a lot of Canadians involved.
tim pool
Sarah, Lauren, Southern?
elad eliahu
Lauren Southern.
tim pool
He's retired.
elad eliahu
I mean, he's...
unidentified
Lauren Chen.
jack posobiec
I would say Jordan Peterson's probably the biggest Canadian that's like...
tim pool
Jordan and Michaela?
But, like, they're not...
jack posobiec
I haven't seen anything.
elad eliahu
I think we also need to differentiate between war and a strike.
I think we're mobilizing to end up hitting this nuclear facility for dough because we have particular...
But we didn't go to large-scale war when we killed Qasem Soleimani in Trump's first administration.
So I think we're going to see a rehashing of a similar strike on this nuclear facility in our limited involvement here.
tim pool
It is, in all fairness, very different.
Striking one guy and bombing multiple facilities and urban centers and governmental targets.
That being said, any one of these strikes, Could be seen as an act of war, even killing Soleimani.
So you said the difference between war and strikes, and it's like, why?
One begets the other.
elad eliahu
Sure, well, it didn't in the case of Qasem Soleimani.
tim pool
I think, and it's fair to say, I genuinely believe if the U.S. did launch strikes on Iran, no one's coming to Iran's aid.
elad eliahu
And it would be foolish of Iran to respond against us.
tim pool
They're not going to, and I don't see any of the BRICS nations, Russia or China, wanting to get involved in this, because Iran's not a great ally.
They're politically weak and isolated.
There's some reason to be working with them, but right now I think the best thing for the U.S. is just to do nothing, not be involved in this.
You know what I'm hearing?
Everyone's like, wow, Israel's doing a really great job with air supremacy.
It's like, oh great, they don't need us.
Okay, we out.
jack posobiec
That was the interesting thing because I remember all last week there were people saying, you know, Israel's got this.
You remember this, right?
Israel's got this.
We don't need any help.
We're good to go.
We're a good ally.
We're pulling our weight, as Alad said.
And we're good to go.
Okay.
All right.
So we're sitting back and we're watching TV and then all of a sudden, like within 24 hours from the initial strikes on Thursday night, going into Friday, and then BBs all over TV saying the U.S. needs to come in.
The U.S. needs to commit to regime change.
Ending the nuclear program means regime change.
It's like, whoa, wait a minute.
I've got whiplash here watching this guy.
Like, you said this was just about the nuclear program.
And now, without even taking a breath, it's immediately also about regime change.
tim pool
Who was it?
Was it also Lindsey Graham?
I think.
Was it?
jack posobiec
Well, Tim, technically Tim has not...
He has always been for bombing Iran to get regime change.
unidentified
Right.
The speed at...
jack posobiec
Totally activated.
phil labonte
The speed at which it has gone from...
It's been days.
There's no lead up, no anything.
It's just this surprise push for not just U.S. involvement, but U.S. to take the lead and try to win.
Yeah, with no discussion.
jack posobiec
No discussion, no debate, please.
unidentified
It seems like that's just been the purpose all along.
For me, my big question is why now?
Because we've been told for 30 years now that Iran is close to getting a nuclear weapon.
So I think I'm where I'm at, where a lot of people are at that.
I just have a bunch of questions and no real answers.
phil labonte
If I understand correctly, part of the why now is because of how badly Iran planned their their attacks against Israel when they started with.
jack posobiec
and you're right about the military window.
There's no question about that.
Think about what we were talking about a week ago.
Just when I say we, I mean sort of the royal we as like the podcaster sphere, online sphere.
It was riots.
It was riots.
It was immigration.
It was illegals.
It was rounding people up.
It was these cases which were marching through and Trump was winning.
And there was so much mass appeal for, I think I saw a poll, like a mainstream poll saying 50, CBS, 55% of Americans saying they wanted to, they supported All illegals being deported.
Not just MS-13, it was all.
And there was this massive push for full-on immigration, or illegal immigration pushed out, and then suddenly it's like that's evaporated overnight.
And just no one's talking about it.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
We've got this from TWZ.
We've got a couple stories, actually.
U.S. Air Force fighters deploy to reinforce Middle East.
The Pentagon is expanding its tactical options by using the tankers it just deployed to flow additional fighters into the region.
From the BBC, U.S. moves 30 jets as Iran attack speculation grows.
And then, of course, we have this video clip showing major airstrikes taking place across Tehran.
There have been rumors circulating the U.S. is already engaged, but we've got no evidence that is the case.
And I'm hoping it is not the case.
But it looks like Donald Trump, whoever, Is gearing up for at least airstrikes in Iran.
jack posobiec
Yeah, can I just say something about that?
that there's been a lot of people who are sort of dying to be first on X, and, oh, I've reported it, I've reported it.
Unless U.S. forces are responding to a direct threat, somebody's fired on them and they're firing back and they have to, I don't think that Trump is going to commit U.S. forces to a direct strike on Iran without some kind of statement first.
I just don't think he would do that.
You know what I mean?
you know, or it'd be concurrent, that sort of thing.
unidentified
I hope we wouldn't.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Donald Trump likes...
He likes Truth Social.
He likes X. Well, yeah.
jack posobiec
If he's posting it himself, sure.
Yeah.
phil labonte
So, I mean, there's always that kind of possibility that he would make an announcement himself.
jack posobiec
Right, right, right.
But I mean, like, for some random X account just pops up, and I'm Asint, bro, and I know that the U.S. is currently doing this, and it's like, guy, like, if you read those Asint, I call them Brosin accounts, and if you read Brosin accounts, like, we've been at war with Iran for like 10 years, and there's been like all these other strikes that have gone on, and also Iran.
There's a lot of misinformation in there as well as true stuff as well.
elad eliahu
I can't trust the thing that I read on Twitter.
jack posobiec
Yeah, that's what I mean.
elad eliahu
I do trust things that Trump puts out on truth, which, if you guys have been following, has been absolutely insane.
He warned people to evacuate Tehran, which was absolutely bananas.
Pasobek, I wanted to get your take on Trump boasting, we now have complete and total control over Iran skies.
jack posobiec
Well, the royal we, I mean, I think there's an understanding there that Get your turn in control?
And it was in a situation where I think a lot of people were saying the S-300 systems could potentially have been brought back online.
But to Tim's point, Russia has not provided them with any extra S-300 systems since that time.
Russia's air defense is very capable, as we've seen in Ukraine over the past couple of years.
And so the fact that they haven't backfilled those, the fact that Israel was able to with, you know, I think a conjunction of.
It still has to be shaken out, but a conjunction of these Mossad strikes as well as probably cyber and electronic warfare has basically taken the entire air defense net offline.
And I'm more familiar with...
All right, I have to be careful about this.
The North Korean side of things, but I do know that a lot of the...
And all right, I'll just speak generally.
A lot of military...
So they're highly vulnerable to cyber attack if you're able to get something into that system because they're all on one system, basically.
And they don't really have a lot of fail-safes in there.
And particularly, I remember being told that with Iran and North Korea, that they were very susceptible to this type of attack.
elad eliahu
I know there were questions about how involved we are.
Many people are reading into him saying that as we now have complete and total control over Iran's guys as us being involved.
Are you reading into it that way?
jack posobiec
I don't have any information either way.
tim pool
I think it's royal we.
I think he's talking about us and our allies.
And he says when Israel does it, he's saying like all of us together.
jack posobiec
It's like the royal we.
I don't put it this way.
And I think the State Department or excuse me, the Defense Department actually put out something saying.
Saying that, hey, to clarify, this does not mean the U.S. is involved in direct, you know, direct, quote-unquote, control of the skies.
But he sort of means, to your point, you know, this is the royal we.
tim pool
Aside from the mobilization— You sure used it.
Aside from the mobilization that we're seeing from the military, there's another component that makes me think we're going to intervene, and that is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
jack posobiec
My favorite show!
tim pool
They attacked Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
They attacked you, Jack.
There was one more person in there.
Charlie Kirk.
And they took you guys completely out of context.
And it was very strange.
It was very strange.
Because there are Trump supporters who cheered on No New Wars, who are now on X cheering on intervention in Iran.
Seems like hypocrisy.
Jon Stewart could very easily come out and say, hey, look at these hypocrites instead.
He chooses to target the staunch anti-intervention faction of the MAGA base and tries to discredit them, namely Bannon and Jack and Marjorie Green, Charlie Kirk, by claiming that Jack called for the military to be deployed against 75 million Democrats in the United States, which is an absurdity and a lie.
And I had to ask myself, why would he do that when he could mock those who actually support the war?
He's not going to mock those support war, just like.
And this time around, they want to do the same thing.
So when I say this leads me to believe that there will be intervention, is that there's a concerted effort, even on liberal media, to mock and discredit the strongest voices saying no war, implying there is a concerted effort to have us intervene in the region, just like we saw in the 2000s.
What say you, Jack?
Do you agree?
jack posobiec
Well, I mean, I do agree that he could be mocking the neocons, and there's a lot of material there.
I mean, if you look at Mark Levin, he's almost like, how do you caricature a guy like that?
I mean, he almost is.
It would be inseparable from a parody, which is funny because I'm like, you know, Mark, you and I are both from the same part of Pennsylvania, just outside of Philadelphia.
We both went to Temple.
I've never heard that accent anywhere in the area.
So I'm very familiar with Cheltenham and that area from Norristown.
I don't know where that comes from.
But that notwithstanding, I think it works for radio.
It doesn't work for TV as much.
But, you know, the antics.
But when it really comes down to is very interesting to see that Where was the Jon Stewart who used to say, you know, and he does actually mention it in the clip.
He said, well, I agree with these guys.
I agree with these guys when it comes to this.
I agree with these guys when it comes to this.
But, but, and then they go to play edited spliced clips with very, like, not even very well edited.
It was very amateurish jump cuts where I'm saying something about, like, Trump is deploying the National Guard and that jump cut.
We should use force, jump cut.
The Democrats, jump cut.
And it's just like, it's like Frankensteined altogether as if I'm calling for force against the Democrats, which, come on, if anyone knows, I am not a Fed poster.
There is no Fed posting out here, okay, folks?
No Fed posting.
and certainly not on TimCast IRL.
But...
At the end of the day, myself, Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, and Marjorie Taylor Greene have been saying to President Trump, hey, we backed the play with Whitcoff.
We backed this play thus far.
We have backed it thus far.
That's clearly what he assigned Whitcoff to do.
He had a meeting with the guys on Sunday.
Then the guys that he was going to be meeting with were all killed on Friday.
So the meeting was then called off.
As it happens.
And so there's this real question of – and Steve Wyckoff, by the way, a lot of people in the foreign policy world don't really know him that well.
They say, oh, who is this Wyckoff guy?
What's his deal?
Well, he's actually one of President Trump's best friends, just on a personal capacity.
And a lot of people miss the fact that – On, I believe it was September 15th of 2024, when Trump was at the golf course and was almost killed by the Ukrainian foreign fighter, Ryan Routh, who was there on the periphery of the golf course in West Palm Beach, Trump was golfing with Steve Witkoff that day.
So they were both in the line of fire or potentially were about to be.
They were on the fifth green and he was waiting on the sixth green.
And so they were both potentially killed by this guy.
And so they've just been through a lot together.
They have a huge, very deep relationship.
And so I wonder, you know, how much Witkoff has really been brought up in these conversations.
elad eliahu
With all due respect to Steve Witkoff, I don't think he's come to a successful negotiation yet.
definitely not in this Iran deal, With the people who were killed.
Or in the Ukraine war, which...
jack posobiec
How does it go?
elad eliahu
No, but before this, they didn't come to a nuclear deal.
Rough.
jack posobiec
It's rough.
Why won't you agree?
tim pool
Illa, do you think that we should invade Iran?
elad eliahu
No.
tim pool
Do you think that we should intervene militaristically in any way?
elad eliahu
I think we should destroy the Fokrum?
What was it, the nuclear facility that Fordow nuclear facility.
That is built into a mountain.
tim pool
Why?
elad eliahu
Because if Iran is able to get a nuclear weapon, it would drastically change the geopolitics of the Middle East.
Why?
Because they're radical Islamists in Iran, whose regime was founded on anti-Americanism, frankly, and they chant death to America and death to Israel.
tim pool
We know that, but how would them having a nuclear weapon change it?
elad eliahu
It would lead to other countries in the region wanting to get a nuclear weapon.
So, for example, Mohammed bin Salman said that if Iran got a nuclear weapon, then they would want a nuclear weapon, too.
So multiple Islamists...
tim pool
We gotta bomb them, too, now.
elad eliahu
Well, they didn't say they would if Iran didn't, so we need to prevent and make sure Iran doesn't, especially with their threats they make against Americans and how their proxies have killed Americans.
tim pool
So, are there any other Islamists and extremists that are making nuclear weapons?
elad eliahu
At this point, I don't think so.
tim pool
So I don't think you've justified why we should bomb Iran's nuclear facility.
elad eliahu
Because they've made threats against us and our allies.
And if they get a nuclear weapon, it would lead to more nuclear proliferation in the region.
And it would allow Iran to bomb.
tim pool
That makes no sense.
You're saying if Iran gets a nuke, all of a sudden a bunch of other countries are going to get nukes?
elad eliahu
Yes.
tim pool
But how does that follow?
elad eliahu
Unless we stop them.
So, Muhammad bin Salman, if you want to pull up the article, he has...
tim pool
I'm just asking, what is the connection?
Like, are you saying that they'll simply just go, well, I guess we should too?
elad eliahu
The balance of power will dramatically shift, yes.
And they will all say, we need to have nuclear weapons too as a deterrence.
So they would try to argue that we need to make it like an India-Pakistan situation, an Iran-Saudi Arabia situation where both sides have nuclear weapons.
tim pool
Are there any other countries with nukes we should bomb?
elad eliahu
We should prevent these rogue nations and nuclear proliferation from happening.
tim pool
What's a rogue nation?
elad eliahu
Rogue nations.
North Korea is a rogue nation.
Why?
Why is North Korea a rogue nation?
Because it's ruled by a mad communist dictator.
tim pool
What's a rogue nation?
elad eliahu
Rogue nations are nations that don't play by any of international laws, recognized laws, and don't respect our laws.
tim pool
So if they defy us, they're rogue.
Yes, if you defy our shipping lanes- Yes.
elad eliahu
I think that we are the unipolar power on Earth.
Unipolar.
Unipolar power on Earth, and I think it's within our interest to continue maintaining that.
And any step back we take would be a step forward that China takes.
So if you want to shoot ships in any international waters that disrupt free trade, we are going to stop you.
tim pool
What do you think, Jack?
Do you agree?
jack posobiec
Well, you left out the fact that a lot of—there already are nuclear weapons in the Middle East.
elad eliahu
Sure.
jack posobiec
And the U.S. has— Who are you talking about specifically?
Pakistan.
elad eliahu
Okay.
jack posobiec
So AQ Khan Network developed the nuclear weapons, and Pakistan has basically said to the Saudis, and you mentioned Mohammed bin Salman, they've also discussed that if the kingdom were under attack, that Pakistan would essentially allow their nuclear arsenal to be used by the Saudis.
I mean, you mentioned nuclear escalation, and that's certainly a valid statement, but there are already nukes in the Middle East.
elad eliahu
Let me ask, do you think that Iran should be able to acquire nuclear weapons?
jack posobiec
I think that there are many policies and many options to be able to deal with that as opposed to just simply blowing up people that you don't like.
elad eliahu
So how should – That we shouldn't allow them to.
tim pool
Yep.
elad eliahu
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
But I'm trying to pin you down because you're beating around the bush like – I feel like you haven't even thought about it.
You're saying...
jack posobiec
No, what you're doing is you're presenting a Because you're presenting a false binary and you're trying to play this Kafka-esque trap of saying like, oh, well, if you don't support war on Iran, then you must support Iran getting the nukes.
And people have been doing this to me like all week.
elad eliahu
How should the United States react to Iran?
jack posobiec
I literally just gave an entire conversation about Steve Wyckoff and you like crapped on it.
elad eliahu
And Steve Wyckoff wasn't able to come to any conclusive negotiations through that it were approved by the president.
jack posobiec
The people were killed.
elad eliahu
Before the people were killed.
jack posobiec
Before the meeting.
elad eliahu
This was the sixth round of meetings, respectfully, Jack, right?
The president didn't think this was going anywhere.
jack posobiec
No, that's the president's prerogative.
There's no question about that.
elad eliahu
So you think we should just continue to go the negotiation routes?
But again, if they don't bear fruit as they haven't, how should the United States respond to their nuclear ambitions?
jack posobiec
You say that as if it's already happened.
And again, how are they going to bear fruit now when the people are dead?
elad eliahu
I guess we reached the point in the negotiations where they didn't bear fruit.
Who's we?
jack posobiec
Are you a member of the administration now?
elad eliahu
No, I'm talking about us, the royal we, right?
jack posobiec
Right, there's a lot of royal we's going around.
elad eliahu
No, as an American, right, worried about the American agenda, like, I'm trying to get a concrete answer here.
So the negotiations don't work out.
How should the United States respond to that?
jack posobiec
Again, so you're playing this game of trying to create a false binary, saying this is the only way to do it.
elad eliahu
I'm asking you what else we should do.
jack posobiec
Okay, cool.
Appreciate you doing that because a lot of people are doing that to me this week and who share your views, and it's very annoying.
So what I've said for a long time now is the best way to do this is stop looking at it in two dimensions, saying, oh, it's just Israel, the United States, and Iran.
There's the only three players there.
World's a complicated place.
It doesn't work that way.
And in fact, there's another huge player in all of this that it feels like the neocons have just forgotten about.
And that's Russia.
So Witkoff.
He plays the key role in the negotiations between the U.S. and Iran, but also the U.S. and Russia.
And Russia has offered multiple times to come in and be the guarantor of the Iranian nuclear material.
So they played a similar role, by the way, in the Syrian chemical weapons under Assad.
I guess it was 2013.
When that took place, and China played a small role as well in destroying them, but after the fact.
And so this idea of Russia coming in and saying, wait a minute, why wouldn't that be a good idea?
Because while the US has issues with Iran having a nuclear weapon, certainly, And for Russia, they don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons either, because that's right in their backyard.
And they don't want this huge escalatory ladder going on in their backyard the same way that I think that most people in the Middle East probably wouldn't.
And so it's a much bigger threat to Russia than it is to us.
And so why not have multiple negotiations, have Iran put pressure on them because they know they have to and then use as a potential dangle for that the peace and ceasefire in Ukraine?
elad eliahu
So...
tim pool
So the issue I see is, Elad, when you say that we've got to stop them from getting a nuke because other countries will get nukes, it sounds like you don't know what you're actually worried about.
elad eliahu
I'm worried about nuclear proliferation and our enemies abroad who have wished death upon us and have the death of American service members on their end.
tim pool
It's a non-sequitur.
If they get a nuke, Saudi Arabia will start a cheesecake factory.
It's like, okay, I don't understand how these things are related.
Saudi Arabia could make a nuke right now.
elad eliahu
They said they wouldn't unless Iran did.
jack posobiec
Saudi Arabia currently has access to a nuclear stockpile.
tim pool
And Jack pointed out Pakistan already has nukes.
There's nukes in the region, and there's Islamists capable of firing them, and there's fears they actually will over Kashmir.
So why isn't Saudi Arabia building them if the politics of the region dictate?
I keep hearing there's a major threat if they get a nuclear weapon.
Notably, this is what the meeting with Netanyahu was about, where he was like, they're going to make a nuclear weapon come for you and – Oh, well, you mean when you met with him?
Yes.
jack posobiec
Sorry.
I was thinking Trump meeting, and I was like, oh, wait, you mean your meeting.
tim pool
Netanyahu was trying to preach about how if Iran gets a nuke, the U.S. is next, and everybody was basically laughing at him.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
There was a handful of people in the room that were like, he's right, and most of them were rolling their eyes being like, they can't even build an ICM to reach us.
We're not worried about that.
So I have concerns about them being a nuke.
I think the real concern is they give fissile material to a bunch of wackaloons in the region like the Houthis, and they start blowing up tankers and launching low-yield nuclear artillery.
That's terrifying.
But the idea of them having nuclear missiles, I'm like...
Russia's got more nukes than anybody else.
They've got the biggest ones.
We've got massive ICBMs, MIRVs we call them.
We can wipe out 12 cities with one ICBM.
I'm not concerned about Iran having access to low-heeled nukes.
jack posobiec
Even though it's never been officially acknowledged, there's also a lot of consensus that Israel more than likely has a stockpile of nuclear weapons as well.
tim pool
Samson option.
unidentified
Well, in what evidence do we have that this is such an imminent threat right now that they're all nuked up?
Because everything I'm hearing is sounding very weapons of mass destruction-y.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
I mean, that's why we've learned nothing.
tim pool
Guys, Tulsi Gabbard said only a few months ago that they were not a nuclear weapon.
unidentified
She testified under oath, and I trust her word a lot more.
jack posobiec
I want to push back on that a little bit.
elad eliahu
Do you trust it more than Donald Trump's word?
jack posobiec
I do want to push back on this a little bit because I think we need to be accurate.
And if it sounds like I'm beating around the bush, it's because I'm trying to be accurate.
We're talking about nuclear war here, right?
So let's be a little serious.
And Tulsi Gabbard didn't say that Iran isn't building nukes.
She said, we have no intelligence that Iran has ordered.
Ayatollah Khomeini has ordered the restart of a nuclear weapons program.
She then also said that in addition to that, we agree with the public statements that Iran has been enriching uranium at a level that is not weaponized, And so this idea that it's just like Tulsi Gabbard's opinion, she's not just giving her opinion, right?
She's saying, I've looked.
We don't have this intelligence.
If there is intelligence, I'd like to see it.
tim pool
I'll tell you why I think this is happening.
jack posobiec
But she hasn't.
tim pool
Support for Israel is down.
Support for Israel is going down.
And the younger generation is split between the right, which is don't want to be involved in your war, and the left, they hate Israel.
And then you've got a faction of the right or whatever you'd call it that is anti-Israel.
The move has to be made now because when the boomers pass on, start dying, the younger generation is not going to tolerate it.
Right now, politically, the move can be made while it's still divided.
You wait 10 years, it's going to be 60% anti-Israel.
Not so much anti-Israel.
It's going to be 60%.
We don't want to be involved at all.
jack posobiec
And Netanyahu just survived a very narrow vote for his leadership just last week.
And a lot of people are pointing to his domestic base, which goes along with some of this popularity issue that Israel has in the United States.
It also is Netanyahu's own popularity.
Domestically within Israel, he's having issues with his coalition.
One of the ultra-Orthodox parties was threatening to break out.
I forget the name of it off the top of my head, or I don't want to say it, actually.
And they were saying, we're going to come out because we don't want to be conscripted because Israel, as we know, has compulsory military service.
And so it was widespread military acceptance in the population.
However, the ultra-Orthodox were saying they didn't want to be in and they were threatening to blow up Netanyahu's coalition if he didn't agree to this concession.
They were able to run that out of him.
And so the coalition stood, but I think he only stayed in power by like nine votes or something like that just last week on the eve of all of this.
unidentified
They're just going to end up blowing up MAGA's coalition.
I mean, there's going to be no support for this because the left is going to oppose anything Trump does, and most of his supporters are principled in being against this.
So who does that leave?
A handful of boomers?
Spirit of John McCain?
jack posobiec
I do think that's the thread that Trump understands of understanding that the MAGA coalition is just like all coalition politics, which I mentioned BB is dealing with some as well, that there's going to be this friction.
So, you know, I don't see a lot of the Maha crowd being down with this.
I don't see a lot of which, you know, and RFK Jr. himself had spoken out quite a bit against the Ukraine war, but then his own son actually had volunteered for it.
So there's, you know, there's this big split.
There's this big friction point.
And at the same time, though, I think that President Trump is— Let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen, from the Pentagon Pizza Report.
tim pool
So for those that aren't familiar, the Pentagon Pizza Report tracks the pizza restaurants that are near the Pentagon.
And as of 30 minutes ago, there has been a huge surge in pizza orders, busier than usual.
Now, this usually indicates that people at the Pentagon are working overtime and they're ordering lots of pizzas because something is about to happen.
Now, Donald Trump was supposed to give an urgent address and then he did not.
So it's hard to know exactly what's going on other than in D.C., in the security apparatus, they're gearing up for something big and ordering lots of food.
jack posobiec
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a strike tonight.
tim pool
However, Jack, they also announced Freddy's Beach Bar, the closest gay bar to the Pentagon, is having a very busy night.
I don't think I've ever seen it this high above the averages of 815.
unidentified
Well, we know where Lindsey Graham is.
tim pool
Whatever is going on.
People need lots of pizza around the Pentagon, but also there's a lot of people at a gay bar.
elad eliahu
We might need to check out Comet Ping Pong too, right?
unidentified
I think this could be a good thing for world peace because this is what happens every time Lindsey Graham is lonely.
She gets angry.
She wants to bomb a bunch of countries.
So hopefully she's there enjoying pizza and gay stuff.
elad eliahu
Is being hawkish a gay thing?
unidentified
It's a Lindsey Graham thing.
Yeah, she gets very upset.
elad eliahu
Well, I think allegedly.
unidentified
I don't...
tim pool
CNN is reporting right now that it appears the U.S. is preparing for a strike on Fordow.
jack posobiec
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.
tim pool
Once again, it's just a speculation.
We've also said that assets are being moved and arranged for a strike.
They're just getting a little closer to it.
elad eliahu
You guys trust the plan?
unidentified
No!
No!
Never!
I used to be a dumb liberal.
If I've learned one thing in my lifetime, I don't trust any of these suckers.
elad eliahu
You guys don't trust the art of the deal here?
unidentified
No!
jack posobiec
Wouldn't the art of the deal be finding a deal?
unidentified
Yes!
elad eliahu
Well, I mean, you know, we're still waiting for more news to come out about this.
I have taken the president for figuring out a way to stand by his commitments that says Iran will not be allowed to have a new group.
tim pool
There's still time.
I haven't thought about it like that.
You're absolutely right.
We do need boots on the ground in Iran.
elad eliahu
No, no.
I was saying justice strike like we did with Qasem Soleimani.
We totally mogged him.
tim pool
You gotta talk into the microphone.
elad eliahu
We totally mocked Kassim Soleimani.
Frankly, again, the Jews in Israel did all of our dirty work by taking out most of Iran's proxies.
Hamas, Hezbollah.
We're really going to look back at October 7th as a turning point.
Also, the Houthis, the Americans actually contributed.
We contributed there, too, with the Israelis against the Houthis.
not to mention Assad falling.
So if you're taking a look at the map of the Middle East, it really is...
President Trump, he sent out to all the White House reporters, he sent out a long list of like 30 different references to his specific quote over the years of saying specifically, I will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
phil labonte
I don't feel like there's a lot of people that are saying that he didn't say that.
elad eliahu
Well, it's just this catch-22 between how do we stop that?
We don't want them.
To get the nuclear weapon.
And we don't want to go to war.
We make Israel do our dirty work.
jack posobiec
Right, and so this is the false binary that you keep coming back to.
unidentified
Wait, wait, hold on.
tim pool
What if we did not war?
elad eliahu
Well, again, I don't think it is war.
jack posobiec
I think it's a strike against war.
I'm not saying war, though.
No, this is a bad faith tactic.
elad eliahu
I'm saying specifically a strike on your nuclear facilities.
jack posobiec
You're either a warmonger or you're not.
Oh, so you're a warmonger.
phil labonte
So you're a warmonger.
elad eliahu
I'm not saying war.
I'm saying a strike.
jack posobiec
So I could do that all night.
But I'm not that kind of guy, so I just don't like doing that.
phil labonte
He is a warmonger.
unidentified
Oh, this is spicy.
I love it.
tim pool
He is a warmonger.
elad eliahu
People, though, you do say that all the time.
No, but again, I'm not talking about wars.
jack posobiec
To Mark Levin, to Lindsey Graham, to people who deserve it.
tim pool
Elad, admit it.
You're a Bolton bro.
jack posobiec
John Bolton.
unidentified
Aha!
jack posobiec
The mustache has taken over.
phil labonte
You can come in here wearing that mustache and tell me that Raytheon doesn't get you hot.
elad eliahu
I think there was a reason.
Trump brought him on at one point for a reason.
tim pool
Did you guys see this?
When Trump made an announcement, I can't remember what it was.
It was last night.
At some point, Trump made a statement and all of the military industrial complex stock after hours jumped.
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I wonder what it's at right now.
I bet it's going up.
jack posobiec
Wait, Tim, are you saying there's a financial incentive towards war?
How dare you?
tim pool
I mean, that would be unethical.
unidentified
How dare you?
jack posobiec
Are you saying that one of the world's largest oil producers in Iran, that this flow of oil, this massive flow of oil may have something to do with what's driving these events?
Is that entirely somewhat...
tim pool
I like Lockheed.
It's a cool name.
Lockheed.
Lockheed.
Yeah, Lockheed.
jack posobiec
There's actually a great book.
tim pool
Oh, they're up 2.6%.
jack posobiec
There's actually a great book that's written all about regime change in Iran and sort of the previous regime change operations the U.S. has been involved in, and it's called Dune by Frank Herbert.
phil labonte
Dune?
jack posobiec
Dune.
I'm dead serious.
You didn't know this?
tim pool
Look at this.
This is hilarious.
When the war starts...
jack posobiec
But Tim, you know about this, right?
So the book Dune and the movies Dune are all about regime change in Iran.
tim pool
Oh, really?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
Dead serious.
tim pool
Oh, the movies were terrible.
jack posobiec
Yes, they were.
Well, not the 80s one.
unidentified
The David Lynch one?
jack posobiec
Yeah, the David Lynch one was good.
The newer ones, it's just like a series of trailer scenes strung together rather than looking at something.
But no, you think about it, right?
So it's the Galactic Empire needs the...
And on top of the sand are these plucky religious fanatics.
And the only way to get this unobtainable resource, which of course powers all the vehicles in the galaxy, is by conquering this land.
But then after conquering it, another house, which is also part of the Empire, comes in and takes them out.
I'm dead serious.
tim pool
You know Ferngully?
jack posobiec
I know Ferngully.
tim pool
That sounds like Ferngully.
jack posobiec
Was there a regime in Ferngully?
tim pool
But like, the fairies were in the trees, you know?
And then they had to come and get the...
Oh no, there was a demon in the trees.
jack posobiec
You're thinking of Avatar.
tim pool
It is like Avatar.
unidentified
The same thing.
They were singing bats in Fern.
jack posobiec
Yeah, they called it unobtainium.
tim pool
Unobtainium.
jack posobiec
It was so bad.
Doom was based on the last time the US and the UK got involved in a regime change operation in Iran, and they overthrew the prime minister who had nationalized all of the oil in Iran.
And they were like, we got to get rid of that guy.
So they brought back the Shah.
This was the second Shah, if you're following.
And they basically threw him out of office, put the Shah back in.
He stays there for a while.
And the people of Iran really didn't like that because, uh, Mosigadeg.
BP was this very popular nationalist, like populist nationalist kind of figure.
And he was saying, we're going to get rid of the US and the UK.
Well, it was really more the UK at the beginning.
BP was involved, obviously.
And we're going to get that.
We're going to get in there.
And we're going to allow the flow of oil back to the world market, back to the UK, back to the US.
And the people of Iran got really mad about that.
And so rather than...
So these regime change operations, and that's not even to say Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine.
They always have unintended consequences, and the law of unintended consequences is always there.
So the current government of Iran is there because of a U.S. CIA-backed regime change operation in the 1950s.
And this is why they chant, death to America.
They hate us because we keep screwing around with them.
tim pool
I thought they hate us because they ain't us.
unidentified
They hate us for our freedom.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
No, I agree with Jack that it's a false binary that either you want them to have a nuclear weapon or go to war.
I think the issue is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I'm just not seeing that.
And you look on X, and there are people beating the same drum from Iraq saying the Iranians just want to be liberated.
It's the same Dick Cheney line for we'll be greeted as liberators.
tim pool
And I think it's simple to say that – So just coming out and saying, you know, I've seen a report, it looks like they're doing nukes, is not enough evidence, in my opinion, to justify.
More importantly, you know what?
I will resign my entire argument.
Fine.
Go to war with Iran as long as Congress declares it.
jack posobiec
Tucker just tweeted out.
unidentified
He had the biggest smile on his face when you said go to war.
phil labonte
That's very dangerous, Tim.
elad eliahu
I don't know if you should be betting on that.
tim pool
What did Tucker say?
jack posobiec
Oh, no.
He's got Ted Cruz on tomorrow.
Oh, wow.
tim pool
If Congress votes for a declaration of war, then I kind of shrug and say, okay, well, I don't want that to happen.
But, wow, if you can get Congress to vote on anything, I'd be impressed.
elad eliahu
If there's one thing they would be able to agree on, it would be something like that.
tim pool
I doubt it.
Democrats are already coming out being like, no, we oppose this because they want points against Trump.
unidentified
But I feel like privately they would be for it.
tim pool
Maybe.
Maybe when Lockheed shows up and says, I got a $500,000 check for your re-election, they say yes.
jack posobiec
It's got a point, though, because the Democrats were all for war in Ukraine.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
So would they also be for this war?
Like, are we for the Republican war?
tim pool
Why would Congress not schedule it right now?
Like, a debate on war with Iran.
Look, I think, here's my prediction.
Iran's already threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz.
The U.S. has said they're not going to allow that.
Security forces will be deployed to the region.
They're going to say our trading partners in the Persian Gulf can't be blocked off by Iran's temper tantrum.
And then U.S. forces will be attacked and trying to secure the Strait of Hormuz.
And then there will be a debate in the United States, a very quick one, about, like, we can't allow American troops' lives to be taken.
If any soldiers die, any U.S. servicemen or women die in this, Trump's going to lose it.
He's going to be like, I will not be Joe Biden.
We will not tolerate this.
jack posobiec
Do you think there's the possibility for a false flag right now?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Come on.
Like, people don't understand that false flags happen every day.
Dozens to hundreds of times, and I don't mean at the grand scale for war to start wars.
I mean even at the smallest level.
What was that famous story about Tucker Max?
He had a book coming out, so they put up a billboard, and then he intentionally graffitied his own billboard.
Then he called in a radio station and said, hey, this billboard for the Tucker Max guy, it's all spray-painted up.
They vandalized it.
Generating a bunch of media attention.
People do this stuff all the time as a standard marketing tactic, as a legal tactic.
So, of course, the U.S. intelligence agencies are going to be like, we don't care.
If we want to enter the war and we want to cast his belly, we'll make it happen.
They do it all the time.
jack posobiec
Well, Gulf of Tonkin is the most famous.
tim pool
And it was funny because that was a conspiracy theory up until, what, like 10 years ago?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
tim pool
They were claiming it was not true.
And if you thought that it was, it was a conspiracy theory.
And then they finally declassified it like, oh, yeah, actually, we lied about what got us into the Vietnam War.
So absolutely.
But it won't matter.
It won't matter.
And the lunatics are going to pull this out of context.
That's what they do.
It does not matter who attacks in a false flag because no one believes what they don't want to believe.
So even if there is strong evidence the U.S. attacked itself or a third party that wants to force the war, the people who want the war in the U.S. are going to be like, nope, you're crazy.
It happened.
Iran will deny it even if they did do it.
So I think that's the direction we're heading, and I hope it's not the case.
But if they want war and they're positioning the U.S. for war, why would they not do it?
jack posobiec
In the Six-Day War back in the 60s, there was a U.S. Navy ship that was famously also attacked.
And a lot of people say that that was potentially either by Johnson, who did, by the way, the Gulf of Tonkin, or potentially some other actors, what may have been a potential false flag attack or an attempt, even though the ship didn't sink.
So, I mean, these things with Navy...
So my heart goes out to all of the sailors that are on those aircraft carriers.
That's 5,000 sailors per ship.
And that's just the aircraft carrier.
So that's 10,000 right there, 10,000 souls per aircraft carrier.
Then you've got hundreds and hundreds of more throughout the strike group and then the different bases, plus we've got Air Force, et cetera, in the area.
So the Persian Gulf, it's actually a lot smaller than a lot of people realize.
We think of it as this huge thing.
It would be, you know, like the Great Lakes are, you know, we don't consider that to be that big of a deal, but like they're enormous, right?
And so basically what I mean to say is all of this military equipment is coming very, very, very close together right now to the point where, you know, we're talking about these long-range bombers and bunker busters and things, but once you get things into the Strait of Hormuz, and this is why it's such a key critical choke point, because so it's the mouth.
People say Strait of Hormuz, Strait of Hormuz.
What does that mean?
Okay, this is the mouth of the Persian Gulf.
And 20% of the world's oil flows through there from the Gulf Arabs and from the Persians as well.
And so any blockage of this, mining it, which the IRGCN, so the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy, has threatened to do this time and time again.
It would be very easy for them to do this.
what they would do is they would take a couple of, you know, merchant tankers that would probably be, you know, false flagged, right?
You know, with some operating under like some...
They just park right there in the Strait of Hamos and just start pushing mines over the side.
And then what do you do?
What do you do?
So that's the mouth of the Persian Gulf.
And then to your point, you know, you've got – so now you've got the U.S. Navy in there.
You have the U.S. Coast Guard.
The U.K. is around.
Typically the French have a couple of ships around.
I believe the French – I think there's a French carrier there as well right now.
Yeah, the Chiqui is there.
You know, I'm used to having access to, you know, in the Navy, when you're in, you have access to all, like, the direct lifetime feeds, so you can see just everything on a given basis.
And one of those things, one of those things you don't always have, but it's all very, very within range of even, you know, even the smallest.
This is why the Houthis were able to be so effective at their fire.
phil labonte
Yeah, for people that don't know, the Strait of Hormuz is 21 miles across.
So it's really, really, really small, like really narrow.
jack posobiec
You could almost see across.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, at 20 miles, I imagine you could, right?
jack posobiec
If you're high enough up in a clear enough day.
Unlikely, but almost.
phil labonte
But so, yeah, I mean, it's...
And, like, the U.S. would absolutely go to war over that little piece of war.
tim pool
Well, you'd isolate Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates.
So they're not going to let that happen.
jack posobiec
And for the record, if anyone's blocking this trade of Hormuz, that's, I mean, that's fully support the U.S. Navy doing whatever it takes to get them out of there.
No question.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, it sounds like we already had one tanker explosion.
And they're saying due to the chaos in the strait and Iran's threat to shut it down, it's already starting.
jack posobiec
Zero had some stuff up about GPS malfunctioning and GPS issues within the strait, so potentially leading to someone jamming.
The question is someone jamming in the strait of Hormuz?
So you've got miscalculation.
You've got the threat of just general threat to merchant shipping.
And then if that's still going on, you've then got the question of one of the things the Iranian ships will do, these IRGC ships.
The reason I mentioned – so Iran has two militaries.
There's the IRGC and their standing army and standing navy, both of which have different armaments, both of which have different tactics.
It's typically seen that the IRGC operates under the Ayatollah, and so they get a little bit better funding in terms of special forces type of stuff.
That's where Quds Force Soleimani was part of the IRGC in terms of their external operations branch.
That's why he was in Iraq when he was killed.
Picket ships and fast boats.
So the idea is, how are you going to take out a giant aircraft carrier?
Well, you surround it like the Spanish galleons of old with these small ships, and then you attack it from all sides at once.
And if a carrier were passing through the Strait of Hormuz and were attacked that way, it would actually be extremely vulnerable, especially if they've got Charlie 802, they've got cruise missiles or something else that parked in the back of those things.
It would be extremely vulnerable to a couple of hits below the waterline.
you've got a huge problem on your hands.
elad eliahu
I think a key thing to also understand here, I think at some point, Something like 20% of the world's oil transits, the Strait of Hormuz.
Give or take.
Also, I think it's important to notice who the biggest losers here would be.
Obviously, this would be a big loser for global trade, and everybody would suffer when oil prices shoot up as a result of this.
However, China specifically imports...
So China would be a huge loser in this situation, and China would suffer a huge amount of economic distress as a result of this.
jack posobiec
So there would be worldwide reverberations as a result So that's exactly, they understand this, and they say, okay, well, this is why we want to build our pipelines and railway system up through Pakistan, through this economic corridor.
And then what's right on the other side of Pakistan from that spot in China?
Well, that's where the Uyghurs live.
That's Xinjiang.
so that's why the Uyghurs and EITF and these various groups are such a threat to China in that sense because it's just basic geography so they want to control that area because it could potentially be an extremely key resource China doesn't
Yeah, it's a little bit ironic there.
If China were able to build pipelines in a railway system, it would drastically reduce that price of the Iranian oil to begin with coming out.
That's why Xinjiang is so important to their imperial gains in pushing out, really, just across all of Asia and Eurasia.
That's why they want that so much, and that's why to them, the Uyghurs, it's just the cost of doing business.
tim pool
Let's jump to some domestic news time, my friends.
jack posobiec
Domestic news?
What's that?
tim pool
From the AP, NYC mayoral candidate is arrested at immigration court after linking arms with man being detained.
unidentified
These theater kids!
tim pool
Here you go, check this out.
You don't have the authority to arrest US citizens.
unidentified
I'm pretty sure they do.
elad eliahu
The way you know that this is a photo op is because all of the reporters that are surrounding these guys in the background taking photos, all of those people were tipped off by this guy's campaign, Brad Lander.
He's running third in the New York City mayoral race, and that's why he's doing this stunt.
He has no chance of actually winning.
Moreover, this is going to be the new Democratic photo op opportunity thing.
Raz Baraka of New Jersey got arrested outside of a detention center.
This is the new way to virtue signal.
Obstructing ICE agents from doing their jobs outside of different immigration courts.
jack posobiec
So this is in New York or in New Jersey?
elad eliahu
This is in New York.
jack posobiec
This is in New York, okay.
tim pool
Apparently, this guy was also seen aiding illegal immigrants to avoid, helping them to avoid ICE at the courthouse before he got arrested.
jack posobiec
And that's what that judge was doing who got stripped and arrested.
tim pool
So this guy should go to jail.
elad eliahu
I'll just further explain kind of what's going on here.
In New York City, within the immigration courts, ICE agents are now hanging out outside of the immigration courts, immediately outside of the doors, to arrest illegal aliens and detain them.
Some of these ICE agents are masked up without any badges or name tags out, and I guess that's been some people's beef.
Others don't.
So others are masked.
Some are, some aren't.
And I guess that's been some of these guys' primary complaint.
I've been covering this stuff in New York for the past couple of weeks.
It's been adult men that they are detaining.
I've seen multiple women with their children be allowed to let go despite definitely being illegal aliens.
Funny tidbit too, Tim.
I actually spoke to a couple of ICE agents there who do watch the show.
tim pool
Oh, really?
elad eliahu
Yeah.
phil labonte
Nice.
Keep up the good work.
Keep sending them back.
jack posobiec
Speaking of DHS, Nikki Haley, Secretary Haley.
Excuse me, gosh, I'm tweeting about Nikki Haley right now.
Christy Noem, gosh.
One in the jar for that one, yeah.
So Christy Noem, I was just tweeting that Nikki Haley is probably loving all this.
unidentified
Don't say her name a third time, you'll summon her.
jack posobiec
I will.
Christy Noem.
She's rushed to the hospital.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But she's all right.
So she had an allergic reaction.
jack posobiec
Thank God.
tim pool
This story with this Democrat, I think what Elad is saying is kind of terrifying.
They don't have policies.
They don't have plans.
They have stunts.
They're a cult.
Who was just saying this a moment ago?
That you're arguing with the TV?
Was that you, Jack?
jack posobiec
So, yeah.
Before we were on air, and I was paraphrasing, but there's this tweet.
It's this famous Anon tweet.
JD, I think, reposted it the other day where he was saying liberals don't know things.
They don't obsess over statistics or databases.
They just sit and watch Netflix and Hollywood movies, and that's their entire conception of the world.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's why they do this, and I fear where that leads to because they have to keep one-upping each other.
elad eliahu
Brad Lander didn't do this with any expectations of stopping, actually stopping the ICE arrests.
Like, he didn't do this with any expectations.
tim pool
No, social media clouters.
elad eliahu
Yes, it was all about social media clout.
He wanted his photographs to be taken and be put in the New York Times and be the lead story on Tim Kass.
phil labonte
Do you remember the phrase, do it for the vine?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
That's exactly what it is.
jack posobiec
Oh, I have the, all right, I want to give it.
elad eliahu
I mean, he's doing it successfully.
He's doing it successfully because we're talking about him.
jack posobiec
I do want to give attribution.
It was mimetic sisyphus.
Liberals don't know things.
They don't read history.
They don't obsess over stats.
The few data points they do see, they forget.
Their entire world is driven by the consumption of fiction.
unidentified
It's so true.
tim pool
That's why they kept saying Trump was Voldemort.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's their common reference point.
That's why they dress up like handmaidens.
They never even read The Handmaid's Tale.
They don't even know what they're talking about.
They wear those gowns because they saw it on TV and they don't even know what the story's about.
jack posobiec
Do you ever get the sense that they kind of want to be The Handmaids, though?
phil labonte
It's a very Fifty Shades of Grey.
jack posobiec
You said I'm saying like, oh, I would hate to be a handmaid.
Strapping me down.
tim pool
You want to be a handmaid?
elad eliahu
No, I was going to say, if you guys want to get a better idea of what's going on in these immigration courts, if you could pull up my Twitter, the most recent video I posted is like a clear Hispanic man being detained by a half dozen guys in masks grabbing him as his girlfriend is crying behind him.
Yeah, go ahead.
tim pool
That's right here?
elad eliahu
Yes.
tim pool
This tweet?
elad eliahu
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, you want to read it?
elad eliahu
Yeah, so, Mast Immigration and Customs Enforcement's agents detain an illegal immigrant immediately outside of the doors of Immigration Court in NYC.
The illegal alien resists but is overpowered by agents.
His girlfriend watches on crying and bangs on the door he's let into.
tim pool
This is, I like to call...
phil labonte
Sorry, man.
tim pool
This guy right here?
elad eliahu
That guy!
tim pool
This guy in the black.
elad eliahu
Let's not dox him, though.
unidentified
What's up, dude?
Even though he's wearing a mask, let's just...
tim pool
He told you he was like, I seen you on the show?
elad eliahu
I don't want to use too many words, but he's familiar with our work.
tim pool
Did he say, get off the show, I can't stand you?
Or did he say, you know, you're alright?
elad eliahu
He said, you know, I appreciate your support, and I'm also a big supporter of Israel.
unidentified
He said, war in Iran, let's go.
elad eliahu
I know ICE is already seen very unfavorably by ICE.
Look at this, look at this.
They're allowing her to do this, by the way.
This is an illegal immigrant as well that they're choosing not to detain and deport.
tim pool
Yeah, I saw this clip where this woman's like, if you're okay with families being ripped apart, and it's like, oh, oh my god, you're right.
The next time a guy robs a liquor store, put his kids in jail.
phil labonte
I am.
unidentified
But actions have consequences.
elad eliahu
And if you want to know why they're wearing masks, if you go to the tweet below this, you'll actually see one of the activists who is a lawyer and an observer there taking photographs of people's faces.
And I've spoken to some of the agents who said they're as concerned about being doxed and having their families threatened.
Some choose not to mask up, though, so there isn't consensus.
tim pool
I am not going to burn the Constitution because some foreign woman is crying and banging on a door.
unidentified
*crying* I lost the door!
tim pool
I actually, so this is what I can't stand about liberals.
I don't go as far as Carl Benjamin.
Carl Benjamin says that people should be made to feel pain for the crimes they commit.
My attitude is much more about the logical system of rehabilitation, making a functioning system.
Carl has a moralistic view that is, no, when you hurt someone, you are to be made to feel pain.
He believes that the purpose of prison should not just be rehabilitative, but punitive.
And so I agree a little bit.
A little bit.
I am not going to empathize or sympathize with this woman who's crying because she broke our laws, spat in our faces.
Dude, if a guy came to my house and broke through my door, broke the back door open, came in and was sitting in my kitchen, and then I threw him out and his girlfriend started crying, I'm not going to go, oh, I feel so bad.
I'm going to be like, you too.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
That's the root of the word penitentiary.
tim pool
Yes.
jack posobiec
The place that makes you penitent.
tim pool
Penance.
unidentified
Oh, I thought it was like, don't drop the soap.
Jesus.
Yeah, I've never been.
jack posobiec
Like, why do you...
unidentified
You said it.
tim pool
Well, you see, the purpose of this video is that liberals are going to go, but she's crying!
And I'm going to go, oh yeah, she is.
jack posobiec
When Mike said his favorite movie was American History X, I thought he was talking about the race relations.
unidentified
It was the Nazi part!
That's all.
phil labonte
She's crying, so we have to throw the Constitution away.
tim pool
You know what we should do?
You know, here's a good man on the street bit.
You know, like, people go on the man on the street and they ask him a question and catch him, like, did you know that Trump said this?
And then they're like, Obama quote, and they're like, I hate you.
What you do is you get a video of, like, a serial rapist crying, and then you say, this is a man whose children were just deported by Donald Trump.
Do you think that it's okay this man is crying?
Like, actually, that's a serial rapist.
You're empathizing.
unidentified
Oh, I love that idea.
tim pool
And it's like, you can't just look at a crying person and be like, oh no, but they're crying!
unidentified
But that's all they have is emotional manipulation.
Maybe if my heart grew three sizes one day, which it likely won't, I would feel a modicum of sorrow for her.
tim pool
I got to pause you.
I disagree.
The idea is that we should tolerate criminals breaking into our country where we have drug dealers, cartels, human trafficking.
I, good sir, say my heart is three times too big.
And because of this, I say deport them all.
unidentified
No, I'm with you.
tim pool
Encouraging this results in children dying in the Rio Grande, young girls being raped as they trek across by force by their parents as the coyotes abuse them.
unidentified
You could say how sad a woman is crying, but the person she should be crying towards is herself and her own actions.
jack posobiec
And nobody's hurting her boyfriend here.
He's being sent home.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I know.
jack posobiec
It's like she can go with him or not.
unidentified
Right.
Like my country sucks so badly.
I'm sobbing at the thought of being sent back there while we're waving the country's flag.
tim pool
It's that meme where the guy's like, Viva Mexico.
Long live Mexico.
Make California Mexico again.
Then the cop grabs him and he goes, No, don't send me to Mexico.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Let me explain to you guys my one big beef with this.
I really have.
I guess my bigger point here is that it's not efficient.
If we want mass deportations, this is not the way to get those numbers up.
Just out of a manpower and the process, I was hanging out with these guys in hallways for hours, not doing anything.
And they are not going to get to the mass deportation numbers this way.
There needs to be other initiatives that are going on.
Even if they have multiple teams of people doing this, if you're only arresting a dozen people a day and supporting a dozen people a day- That's got to be the majority of people that leave.
phil labonte
And we have to make it as uncomfortable for illegal immigrants to be here as we possibly can.
Take away any state benefits, anything at all that comes from the government, take it all away.
You can't come here and get schooling.
You can't come here and get anything if you're not a citizen.
And then make it difficult on the people that would hire them.
And rent.
Yeah, renting, absolutely.
The whole Donald Trump, you know, talking about, oh, we're going to allow farm workers and people that work in restaurants and then walking it back and then doubling down on it.
That's a terrible, terrible thing for him to do.
tim pool
Have you guys, sorry.
phil labonte
Well, he should just be, he should be flat out with it.
Anyone that hires an illegal is facing fine or losing their property.
tim pool
Have you guys watched Andor?
phil labonte
Not yet.
tim pool
How come nobody's watching that?
jack posobiec
Was that the one where he was basically a sexual assault scene?
unidentified
Yeah, I heard it got very woke in the second season.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're on a farm planet.
Spoilers!
There's a farm planet and the rebels...
that are working with Cassian Andor.
They're hiding out on this planet.
And the Empire has come to do audits to look for undocumented workers.
And the Imperial colonel or lieutenant or whatever sees the main character's wife and he's not there and he's like, so you work around here?
And she's like, yeah.
And then he's like, hey, I'm going to go get food later.
Maybe you'd like to join me.
And she goes, my husband wouldn't like that.
And he goes, I don't see him.
She's like, he'll be back soon.
He's like, okay, and he walks away.
Later, they're like, hey, the auditors are coming to this facility and you guys are undocumented.
You've got to flee.
So they get forged documents and then go to some other facility where eventually the Empire pulls up and they see one of the guys lurking and they're like, they're escaping or whatever.
The Imperials, like the commanding officer, goes to them and he goes, I know you're undocumented.
Oh, it's so hard.
The farmers need the undocumented workers because they want the grains on time.
jack posobiec
This is all in the episode?
tim pool
And he goes, but we're not supposed to let you stay.
Perhaps, you know, it's so stressful.
jack posobiec
So like George Soros wrote the script.
tim pool
Then the woman says something like, that must be very hard on you.
And he goes, it is.
Maybe there's some way you can help me relax.
And then she goes, no, no.
And he goes, come here.
And then she goes, I said no!
And then she, like, hits him, and then he, like, grabs a knife, and then she pulls a blaster, and she shoots him.
jack posobiec
No, no, no, but there's a lot.
unidentified
I gotta watch this.
jack posobiec
I do remember there is one line, because I got this.
unidentified
I'm an accomplished tape watcher.
jack posobiec
Someone sent me this clip, and I guess it was going viral, whatever.
And he says to her, he goes, we know you're undocumented.
We've been counting visas.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jack posobiec
It's just, like, the worst writing possible.
We know you're und...
Like, as if that's an actual...
tim pool
I love it.
I love it, actually.
You know, some people might look at that one scene and go, it's propaganda.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You need to understand this in the full context.
The full context is Cassian Andor murdered a couple of corporate security guards, and that has been on the run ever since.
So these are quite literal criminal aliens who have murdered tons of cops and soldiers.
I kid you not.
Cassie and Andor...
When the empire came to stop this dangerous criminal, they killed a bunch of them.
So when he comes and he says, you're undocumented, sure, they ham it up with him then trying to rape her.
That's ridiculous.
But the point is, the full context is...
She's part of a criminal cartel gang that has been stealing military equipment and selling it on the black market and murdered dozens of soldiers.
So it's like, hey, no good guys here, I guess.
And I'll add this too.
jack posobiec
I will say that, just on that point, in that scene, it's clearly written that you're supposed to side with one side and the other side is clearly evil.
They're the Empire after all.
tim pool
This is what I can't stand about Star Wars is that It is the most—the whole—even the original movie is just communist propaganda.
jack posobiec
Like— It was intended as communist propaganda.
tim pool
It is communist propaganda.
jack posobiec
It was intended as communist propaganda.
tim pool
Okay, they succeeded.
jack posobiec
No, I don't think they did.
tim pool
The joke is always that—this is like around the time of the prequels, and then of course—I can't remember who brought this up, but became a meme.
Where I would say to my friends, do you like the original Star Wars?
And everyone says, yeah.
You like the idea of a young kid on a desert planet getting radicalized by religious extremists and then taking a cargo ship and blowing up a military base?
jack posobiec
It's like when ISIS was getting big.
This meme kind of got...
tim pool
And everyone's like, oh, and I'm like, that's what it's about.
jack posobiec
And then he gets, because of that successful attack, he gets brought to a religious education center where he becomes even further radicalized and sent off to assassinate government leaders.
tim pool
Indeed.
Darth Vader was a disabled war veteran.
phil labonte
He was.
jack posobiec
So was the emperor.
tim pool
Well, the emperor didn't serve, did he?
jack posobiec
He was a disabled politician.
tim pool
He was disfigured in an assassination attempt.
jack posobiec
Yeah, assassination attempt, yeah.
tim pool
So I actually think...
Like, in the original movies, it was just the Empire is bad, but you don't really know why.
So now they're trying to write all of these things where it's like, here's why they're bad.
jack posobiec
One of those is the police— It's because they just kill people wantonly.
tim pool
Not really in it.
It's just like, there's the Empire.
But that's what they're doing.
jack posobiec
They blow up an entire planet.
tim pool
Okay, sure, fair.
They blow up Alderaan.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But the point is, they're writing things like the Imperial Office.
jack posobiec
A lot would consider Alderaan a rogue planet.
elad eliahu
I've never seen it.
jack posobiec
They had to be destroyed.
tim pool
So what they're writing now is that when you're tracking undocumented workers, the Imperial, the white men, are trying to rape the brown women who are harvesting grain.
Or working as mechanics.
They're trying to make it be like, when the US government tries to enforce its laws, it is the evil empire.
That is the propaganda that Hollywood produces.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
I think what you said is very true, that they get everything they know from fiction, from TV, from media.
I went to the No Kings protest the other day, which just the idea of that is insane.
Like, they didn't care too much about the idea of kings.
phil labonte
That's a fiction as well.
unidentified
Yeah.
When the government was putting people out of business and locking us under house arrest.
But the funny thing is, when you look at, first of all, I know everything they hate.
They hate Trump.
They hate borders.
What are they for?
You see one person who's draped in a trans flag standing next to a person with an Obama shirt holding a sign that says no deportations.
jack posobiec
So what you're saying is no kings, but there are a lot of queens.
unidentified
Yes, precisely.
tim pool
And I was wondering, Libby told us the other day that in Canada it was called the No Tyrants protest.
unidentified
Oh yeah, they can't have no kings there.
jack posobiec
So Postmillennial had someone up there, I think it was Toronto, covering the protest, but they had to call it No Tyrants because Canada literally has a king.
tim pool
And they support kings.
jack posobiec
Yes.
tim pool
Just proving it's all a bunch of hypocritical nonsense.
elad eliahu
I hate Canada.
unidentified
The contradictions just here and here.
jack posobiec
Is Canada a rogue country?
elad eliahu
I think we should take over Canada.
jack posobiec
Almost.
elad eliahu
Liberate Canada.
If you want me to actually support war, I...
jack posobiec
Canada.
They kind of do.
unidentified
You are ethnic John Bolton.
elad eliahu
I am willing to liberate the Canadians, and I think they would be an issue in the future.
jack posobiec
We'll be greeted as liberators.
tim pool
I don't think we should liberate them.
elad eliahu
I think we should encourage Quebec to break apart, as I understand of their politics.
phil labonte
Build another wall, man.
jack posobiec
You guys know how they actually got the name for Canada, right?
The actual story is a cover.
It's a conspiracy theory.
The true story is that there was somebody up in Canada walking around in the snow.
Well, the territory that's now Canada.
And he saw the letters C, N, and D written in the snow.
And he looked down at it and he said, C-A-N-A-D-A.
phil labonte
God, that's...
Canada?
jack posobiec
Kanukistan.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
phil labonte
I don't know.
jack posobiec
It was briefly aligned with Kekistan before the war.
tim pool
That's right.
jack posobiec
But then after the occupation, Kekistan was no longer able to maintain the freedom.
phil labonte
So Canada has indigenous roots and originally comes from the Huron-Iroquois word Canada, meaning village or settlement.
That's not true.
1535 explorer Jacques Cartier was told about the route to Canada by two aboriginal youths who were referring to the village of Staticonda?
jack posobiec
Yeah, nobody buys this.
phil labonte
Presently city of Quebec?
jack posobiec
Nobody buys it.
Total cover story.
Go with the letters in the ground.
phil labonte
I think I like Jack's version better, but that's what the internet told me when I googled it.
jack posobiec
Yeah, the internet.
Well, I mean, I saw it on Twitter, so it must be true.
phil labonte
Actually, I saw it.
It was on Google Day.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story for the Daily Mail.
Padilla's fake crying routine.
Alex Padilla ridiculed for fake crying after dramatic arrest at Ice Barbie Christine Home Event.
Why does Daily Mail keep calling her that?
That's so weird.
alex padilla
I was forced to the ground.
unidentified
As if he didn't like it.
tim pool
On my knees.
alex padilla
And then flat.
On my chest.
unidentified
Lindsey Graham's nipples are tingling.
tim pool
Hey guys, it's the first time homie's ever been arrested.
unidentified
It's millionaires being like, oh, he touched me.
alex padilla
And marched down a hallway.
Repeatedly asking, why am I being detained?
Not once did they tell me why.
tim pool
And they don't have to.
unidentified
I pray you never have a moment like this.
Oh my god.
You would have thought he was sent to Guantanamo.
alex padilla
A lot of questions came to my mind.
tim pool
Yo, this guy is softer than cookie dough.
alex padilla
First of all, where are they taking me?
Because I know I'm not just being escorted out of the building.
phil labonte
This is my favorite part.
alex padilla
Am I being arrested here?
tim pool
Yo, I don't think this guy has ever lifted a heavy object in his life.
unidentified
This is why theater kids are a plague.
They have nothing but their community theater routine and emotional manipulation.
He needs to go back to acting school.
elad eliahu
Democrats are so deep.
tim pool
There's like every inner city kid right now is being like, And he wouldn't tell me.
I'm like, is that the worst thing that's ever happened to you, dude?
I pray this never happens to you.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Actually, I hope it happens to a lot of people, because otherwise they're going to end up soft like this guy.
phil labonte
He planned it initially when he went in there to try and talk to Kirstie Noem.
He approached the podium or whatever aggressively with the intent to get the Secret Service Yeah, of course, to get the Secret Service to act.
So that way he could get the...
He did it for the Gram.
And the whole point is just so that way he can do more of this making content.
The it's crazy that politicians don't.
They try to make content like YouTubers because that's how they get their name out there.
jack posobiec
This is what Carl Benjamin's point is about democracy, though, isn't it?
That, you know, that the incentives, I mean, you could argue that these are the incentives that present him with the advent of social media, the advent of virality.
So the person who goes viral gets more attention.
You get more attention.
You get more eyeballs.
You get more eyeballs.
You get more money.
You get more money.
You make more of a splash.
You're able to get more votes.
And so therefore he's just following his own, Political incentives in a state like California, by the way, for doing something like this.
This is also why Gavin Newsom was trying to get arrested for a while last week.
This is why the guy's name Raj...
Raz Baraka.
Raz Baraka did it, and then Brad Lander did it.
Again, they're just following.
And wasn't Raz Baraka also running for mayor?
elad eliahu
He's running for governor.
jack posobiec
Governor, thank you.
elad eliahu
He's currently mayor of Newark.
jack posobiec
He's currently mayor running for governor.
Thank you.
elad eliahu
And it's this posturing, and I think you were spot on.
The incentive structure here is the, unfortunately, the fact is that we're not talking about any other senators.
Which Democrats did we talk about tonight?
Alex Padilla and Brad Lander.
to Democrats, you know, getting arrested for photo ops.
That's who gets featured on Timcast IRL.
Not only Timcast IRL, obviously, but these other news networks.
jack posobiec
So in, in, Tim Poole famously never stunt queened that I can think of off the top of my head.
elad eliahu
Have you ever stunt queened, Jeff?
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah.
I did Shakespeare in the Park.
What are you talking about?
elad eliahu
I wanted to hear you say it.
jack posobiec
No, I did plenty of stunt queening.
unidentified
American History X. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
jack posobiec
That's classified.
I'll put it that way.
As someone who's dabbled in a few infamous stunt queening incidents, um, that, uh, you don't, You can't keep going to that well eventually because the problem is with stunt queening and if you create that as your incentive structure for your business or in this case politics, you always have to keep one-upping one another.
So eventually this is going to get passe and people say, oh, another Democrat got arrested, whatever.
Yeah, I saw that.
And eventually someone's going to say, okay, I don't want to say that online.
But, you know, I've got to do something that's—I'm going to have something—I'm going to provoke something to me that is worse than just getting arrested.
I'm not going to— We're on YouTube, so I'm not going to say it.
But you know what I'm trying to say?
They're going to keep escalating, moving up the escalatory ladder over, oh my gosh, did you see what happened now?
Pepper sprayed or maced or whatever.
Someone actually gets thrown to the ground.
I saw that.
He didn't get thrown to the ground, bro.
And don't act like he didn't like it, because he clearly did.
And he's smiling the whole way.
He's like, this is going to go viral.
It's going to be great.
elad eliahu
They want their Bernie Sanders photo op.
So in 20 some odd years, when they run for something, it's like, oh, look, I was on the front lines fighting.
And you weren't fighting for anything.
You were fighting to get yourself in the newspapers.
unidentified
They want their AOC sobbing in front of the family.
jack posobiec
Yeah, and please, Bernie Sanders, you're literally from the ethnostate of New England, where it's the whitest part of the entire country.
And they're like, well, why is crime so low up there?
It's almost because of our policies.
It's like, yeah, okay, bro.
elad eliahu
Something like that.
unidentified
There's got to be some community theater somewhere where they're discovering all of these Democrat politicians, like the George Soros Playhouse or something.
That's where these guys come from.
jack posobiec
There were stories that AOC was essentially selected through an audition process.
elad eliahu
At the Justice Democrats.
jack posobiec
Yeah, the Justice Democrats.
They held open auditions in their...
Oh, yeah.
And in the Justice Democrats.
And he was really good.
Like he was really, really...
Really effective at what he did.
And when that relationship was separated, that's really when AOC became rudderless, as she is now, that he was very, very effective at what he did.
And she was a great deliverer of his his material.
And then up until the point where, you know, definitely a much more effective operator when she had someone like that behind her.
But, you know, then when she switched over to whoever Pelosi's team is, it's just in Jeffries.
There's awful.
Absolutely awful.
elad eliahu
This is their way of fighting back.
phil labonte
This is still a symptom of them having absolutely no policies and no idea whether or not they should go after the progressives or go after regular Democrats.
tim pool
No, they're like, just go on camera and screen.
jack posobiec
I just keep going back.
55% support for mass deportations.
Something that if you went back four years, three years from now.
and ask people that question, you have nowhere near that level of support.
This absolutely is the...
Okay, whether Trump makes a strike, whether he doesn't make the strike in Iran, we're all kind of, you know, on a razor's edge about that.
But while cable news isn't looking, wouldn't it be amazing if 20 million illegals just precipitated?
And disappeared all in one fell swoop.
And then, oh, where did all the illegals go?
And Tom Homan's like, I don't know.
They were here.
Now they're gone.
And we had a problem with them.
And now we don't have a problem anymore!
And we can just go about our lives.
And it's really a time where I would say, full speed ahead, Mr. President, on this.
Full speed ahead, Stephen Miller.
I trust Stephen Miller on this.
It's like something goes on.
I don't know what's happening.
I read Stephen Miller's tweets.
I trust the player.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, like, you don't even have to, like...
I just trust that he wants to actually deport people.
It's not like you don't have to like Stephen Miller.
elad eliahu
This Miller guy's been rock solid.
phil labonte
He's been 100% rock solid.
He's been consistent.
And, you know, he's the guy that...
And it's good because that's the policy that everybody that voted for Trump voted for.
If you voted for Trump because of immigration, you voted for deportations.
And the popularity of deportations hasn't significantly changed since he was elected.
unidentified
That's why I don't know what message they could even run on.
They have no unifying message.
If they run another presidential election on Orange Man Bad, that will be four presidential elections in a row.
phil labonte
There might not even be Orange Man in it.
unidentified
They'll still be talking about him.
tim pool
You know what I think?
On X, all the people who respond to you, probably half, are just bots.
And the best way to figure it out is that you just post sarcasm and they can't understand it.
And I think AI bots and foreign sock puppet accounts – And so I find that's a great way when dealing with these issues to see if people actually care is to be sarcastic about it.
And then you can see all the malfunctioning bots and lunatics.
Democrats are operating to appease those people.
They have a simple worldview where if the crowd says it, it is.
So they go on social media and they look for social media validation, and if they get it, they'll continue down that path.
But if they're being validated by bots and foreigners, then they have no coherent policy or anything.
It's just going to be, he posts this video, he gets viral.
He gets positive reinforcement from bot accounts and from foreign individuals and very few real people, and he'll keep doing it.
unidentified
I'm so sick of these people.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, this is the future of politics.
There's no incentive to change this.
You know, this guy's...
jack posobiec
Yes and no, right?
So this guy's running for, you know, well, he is a senator in California, so that can work in California.
But I've, I've, I don't actually see Gavin Newsom as being a successful candidate nationwide because of his policies and because a lot of these floated AstroTurf bases don't actually give you that broad appeal that you would need to run as a national candidate for office.
I see a few contenders on the Democrats' side.
I'm not going to give them the benefit of me saying who I think would be most dangerous to run against, whether it be J.D. Vance or whoever else, in 28. Not AOC, though, of course.
Please do run AOC.
Or please do run Gavin Newsom.
I really hope they do.
But when you look at this issue, look, Hillary Clinton had more money than Trump.
He's consistently performed well against candidates that were very well-funded, extremely more funded than he was.
And what made Trump possible to be elected was the broad-based appeal and his ability, again, to put together this coalition.
By the way, everyone has been sending me this thing, and I'm dying to hear it.
unidentified
Amazing.
tim pool
I've got to play this clip from Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz.
Check this out.
tucker carlson
How many people living around, by the way?
ted cruz
I don't know the population.
tucker carlson
At all?
ted cruz
No, I don't know the population.
tucker carlson
You don't know the population in the country you seek to topple?
ted cruz
How many people living around?
tucker carlson
92 million.
ted cruz
Okay.
tucker carlson
How could you not know that?
ted cruz
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
tucker carlson
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
ted cruz
Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million?
Why is that relevant?
tucker carlson
Well, because if you don't know anything about the country...
Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran?
ted cruz
They are Persians and predominantly Shia.
Okay, this is cute.
tucker carlson
No, you don't know anything about Iran.
ted cruz
Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
tucker carlson
You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government.
ted cruz
No, you don't know anything about the country.
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
tucker carlson
No, I'm not saying that.
ted cruz
You're the one who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad.
tucker carlson
You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump.
unidentified
Yes, I do.
tucker carlson
Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation.
ted cruz
Okay, we're carrying out military strikes today.
tucker carlson
You said Israel was.
ted cruz
Right.
With our help.
I said we.
Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
tucker carlson
Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all.
ted cruz
We're not bombing them.
Israel's bombing them.
tucker carlson
You just said we were.
ted cruz
We are supporting Israel.
unidentified
It's high stakes.
tucker carlson
You're a senator.
If you're saying the United States government is at war with Iran right now, people are listening.
jack posobiec
I will just say that this isn't the full interview.
The full interview I think is coming out tomorrow.
I got a text message right after this dropped and was told that the entire interview was like this.
unidentified
Really?
This is about a royal re.
jack posobiec
I mean, just, by the way, I think I did a better job of bringing I didn't even know that that was going to come up earlier.
So I did spend a year at Guantanamo Bay working there.
phil labonte
Not long enough.
jack posobiec
Obviously.
I'm sorry?
phil labonte
Nothing.
jack posobiec
Not long enough.
No, yeah, I should still be there, right?
The waterboarding didn't take, obviously.
Mike, you would have loved it.
unidentified
Tempe is a good time.
jack posobiec
I know, I know.
But yeah, that's just something that came up on a regular basis.
tim pool
You know what Tucker needed to do?
He needed to go, well, Senator Cruz, when was the last time you visited Iran?
jack posobiec
Because you can't report on a place that you've never visited.
tim pool
And then he goes, I've never been there.
And he goes, you've never been?
jack posobiec
You've never been?
unidentified
Never been?
tim pool
Dude, it's wild how it seems.
There's this false dichotomy.
In this debate, Dave Smith is like, as an American who opposes U.S. intervention, I don't like what Israel is doing.
And then Douglas Murray is like, you've never been?
You've never been?
How could you possibly have an opinion?
It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Regular Americans are allowed to have opinions on what our military is doing, okay?
Now, I agree with Tucker in this regard all the same.
U.S. sitting senators shouldn't call for intervention and regime change while not knowing— And you see what Ted Cruz tried to do in that regard?
What does it matter if it's 80, 90, or 100?
jack posobiec
But he said that after Tucker.
tim pool
Because he didn't know if it was 30. Right.
He didn't know if it was 20. And 92 million is a massive, massive population.
jack posobiec
Yeah, so Iraq is about 40. Iraq and Afghanistan are both about 40 million.
Syria is about 25. Iran is, as best we know, 90, 92 million.
So, I mean, just an order of magnitude larger than any of those countries.
And yes, as I was saying earlier, so yeah, the vast bulk of the population are Persians, but then you also have a variety of ethnic groups around the periphery.
I mean, remember, this was the Persian Empire, right?
So you've got Arabs, you've got Beluchis, you've got Sunnis, you've got the Kurds up in the north, which, of course, they would like to link this sort of Kurdistan across Iran, Iraq, and Syria, where they have holdings now with the new government, where they're trying to work on.
The Syrian civil war, like this year, like within the last couple of weeks, in a sense, where he installed this new totally reformed terrorist as the leader of Syria.
And so, yeah, I mean, there's just a ton.
It's a complex area.
It's an extremely complex area.
And I really do think that anyone who says that they know what would happen, uh, I mean, we never have been able to affect this in any country in the Middle East or really any other region of the world with one of these.
tim pool
And the population estimates do range from 85 to 90 or so million.
phil labonte
Close.
unidentified
Yeah, the 2024 estimates are...
tim pool
Yeah, 89 is the 2024 estimate.
jack posobiec
It's also a very young population.
Their birth rate is actually one of the highest.
And so they, you know, people point this out many times that that gives them a larger military age male population quotient relative to their population size, as opposed to, say, like Europe or some of these other areas, United States, where our population is generally aging because our birth rates are down so low.
Israel, of course, also has an extremely high population or birth rate, even though they're there.
Just under 10 million.
tim pool
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Hit him up.
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Haven't seen you in forever.
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Because you should be.
And apparently that works because some woman the other day told me that her sister-in-law shared the show with her.
Thank you.
Shut up.
And you can follow me on Instagram.
We're going to have that uncensored show coming up at 10 p.m. at rumble.com slash timcastirl.
Don't miss it.
But for now, we'll grab your chats.
We got my name is Yeet, who says first.
Congratulations.
Shane H. Wilder says, I'm optimistic about Trump calling a lid and hope he's taking time to weigh everything.
None of us want to be involved in another pointless Middle Eastern war, regardless of what the Gray House poll says.
To be fair, I have been thinking about it these past few minutes, and I got to be honest.
The advertising revenue from the ratings spike from war footage, it's going to be fantastic.
Think of all of the Teslas you could buy, Phil.
phil labonte
A lot of them.
tim pool
A lot of Teslas.
phil labonte
A lot of Teslas.
tim pool
Yeah, so, you know, the media loves war because it gives them footage of bombs, explosions, and suffering.
And as you know, this is an industry of vultures.
jack posobiec
Yeah, the Murdochs love it.
The Murdochs, of course, were cheering on the Iraq War when it happened.
tim pool
If it bleeds, it leads.
jack posobiec
March of 2003, and there's no question that they're cheering this on as well.
tim pool
All right.
Alpha2Omega says, Howdy, peoples.
With a heavy heart that I thank you for your prayers.
My friend Rupert, real name Anthony Douglas Chandler, nicknames Taco, and little Tony passed away from cancer yesterday.
Sorry to hear it, man.
Sorry to hear it.
Let's see.
What else do we got here?
Kappa Sue says, all we have to do is keep the proxies at bay and all other Arab nations from engaging.
That's it.
phil labonte
Keep the proxies at bay and all other Arab nations.
elad eliahu
The Iranian proxies, I believe, they're talking about.
jack posobiec
Can you say it again?
phil labonte
All we have to do is keep the proxies at bay and all other...
tim pool
Arab nations from engaging.
phil labonte
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Right.
Just go ask them.
phil labonte
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
HS disturbs us.
How do you say that Israel's completely capable of defending itself while also saying that we've been funding Israel for too long?
Seems like a contradiction to me.
I support Israel because I believe it is a sacred holy land.
Somehow that makes me either a neocon or a cultist.
I'm neither, but I do trust Trump on this.
He hates war and knows more than us.
elad eliahu
It makes you totally based.
Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.
tim pool
This guy and his Bolton bros.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I mean, I've been in Israel multiple times.
I certainly believe it is the holy land, and I think there's a range of opinions that a lot of people can have on what the best way to keep it safe is.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
I think there's kind of Israel derangement syndrome on both sides that some people think they walk on water and can do no wrong.
Other people think, you know, you turn water and water comes out of the faucet and Israel and the Jews did it.
So I think, I don't know.
I'm generally more on the pro-Israel side, but I'm also pro-averting.
jack posobiec
Oh, there was one guy over there who could walk on water, but it was only one!
tim pool
Barry N. McGrowan says, who on tonight's show ever served in the military and did they ever serve in combat if not STFU?
phil labonte
No.
You can go F yourself.
People are allowed to have opinions.
jack posobiec
I think that goes right in the same vein as the Douglas Murray statement.
I really do.
unidentified
Does the village people military count?
jack posobiec
How many push-ups did you do?
unidentified
12, 13, maybe?
jack posobiec
That's enough for the Air Force.
elad eliahu
I think the last president who served was George Bush Sr.
jack posobiec
In World War II, yeah.
Vice President would be J.D. Vance.
elad eliahu
Not Vice President, but President.
President is the Commander-in-Chief.
So we haven't had...
jack posobiec
Is that how that works, really?
elad eliahu
Yeah, so we haven't had a commander-in-chief who's seen...
jack posobiec
Yeah, so currently J.D. Vance is the closest you would say.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
Just think important context there.
tim pool
IsDestroider says, I'm not against Israel, and I don't want to ask this question, but it must be asked.
With the precision of intel and force used in the bombings, how did Israel miss October 7th?
elad eliahu
I think Israel missed October 7th because they had their eye on the ball in Hezbollah and Iran, and they were able to actually take out their targets in Hezbollah and Iran extremely effectively.
And I think that's where they had their focus because they thought the issue in Gaza was already neutered.
phil labonte
false flag, man.
jack posobiec
Wasn't there...
elad eliahu
I think there's also something to say about, you know, again, nobody cares about...
You know, we don't need to belabor the point of the horrible atrocities that happened on October 7th, and I don't think anybody here wants to hear Jewish sob stories any more than they already have, but I think there is something to say about how the Israeli psyche deeply was affected by October 7th, and they are still reeling from that tragedy that happened there.
It is in no way comparable to 9-11, but I think there's a way to...
And I think there was a similar effect in post-October 7th society in Israel.
the mood has changed drastically and differently.
jack posobiec
And I think, you know, obviously we overlook that now, For sure, and unfortunately, just on that point, that in the U.S., we saw the neocons totally abuse that emotional situation in order to push for forever war.
tim pool
Bueno Malio says, Padilla's name is pronounced Padilla.
I hope he liked how the ground tastes.
I just hope you all realize I was pronouncing his name wrong intentionally to disrespect him.
elad eliahu
I didn't pronounce it wrong to disrespect him.
I just pronounced it wrong.
Does that mean something in Spanish?
tim pool
You say pollo.
Two L's make a yo.
jack posobiec
We're not speaking Spanish.
I'm a huge proponent of saying that if you're not speaking that language, and I'm sure plenty of us around here can speak different languages, that if you're speaking English, just go ahead and say it the English way.
It's totally fine.
tim pool
Mi gallo es mi amigo.
unidentified
Whoa.
Yeah, those people are insufferable who overpronounce foreign words in English.
jack posobiec
Yeah, Obama used to always do that.
Pakistan.
unidentified
Oh, God, yeah.
Pakistan.
tim pool
Or when you go to an Italian restaurant and they're talking like this and then they say mozzarella.
jack posobiec
It's mozzarella.
tim pool
Hey, hey, hey.
Speak American.
jack posobiec
Just say it in English.
It's fine.
unidentified
Here's the reason.
jack posobiec
The point of language is communication.
Effective communication.
For effective communication, if someone doesn't understand what you're saying, that's on you.
because you're not effectively communicating.
And so the point of effective communication is that someone can always understand Obviously, if you're a waiter, if you're a waitstaff, your goal is to sell the stuff.
Now, if you're trying to put flair on something, I think that might be okay, but you don't want to go so overboard that you're alienating a customer base.
tim pool
I think if you're an English speaker and you're visiting any other English-speaking nation, you should immediately adopt their accent.
So if you're in Ireland, you should start talking like this to everybody you meet.
unidentified
That's what Lindsay Lohan did.
tim pool
Why are you talking like that?
Because we're supposed to.
I code-switched aggressively.
unidentified
Middle Eastern became Middle Eastern for a bit.
jack posobiec
I missed this.
unidentified
And she tried to kidnap some orphans there.
jack posobiec
I think I totally missed this episode of Lindsay Lohan.
unidentified
When she live-streamed it, she tried to kidnap a bunch of Middle Eastern orphans.
phil labonte
That's hilarious.
unidentified
I'm not making this up.
jack posobiec
No, no, I don't think you are.
I just totally missed this.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I code switch like a politician.
If I'm talking to...
jack posobiec
No, code-switching is different.
Code-switching is different.
tim pool
Yeah, but liberals code-switch to incompetence.
It's true.
We run this article up all the time, but liberals act incompetent around black people.
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to hear it as well.
elad eliahu
I don't know if it's, like, I just use their terminology.
unidentified
Like what?
elad eliahu
Hard R?
jack posobiec
I get what you're saying.
phil labonte
Hard R?
elad eliahu
Like unk.
phil labonte
Guys, we're not in the third hour yet.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
It's coming.
tim pool
It's coming.
elad eliahu
Yeah, their terminology, an op.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more.
What do we got here?
elad eliahu
I'm a New Yorker, you know?
tim pool
Lurch says, Lurch says, why should Iran surrender?
Israel attacked them.
elad eliahu
Because they have no other good military option.
Israel has total air superiority over them, and if the regime wants to continue to exist...
tim pool
John Marafa says, Senator Padilla has been given the floor.
phil labonte
Bravo.
tim pool
I think Padilla sounds better.
jack posobiec
It sounds like Armadilla.
tim pool
That's right.
phil labonte
Whichever one he doesn't like is the one I want to use.
tim pool
Say my name.
Kamala.
unidentified
I'm crying again.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Kamala.
unidentified
That's what I would call her.
tim pool
Kamala.
elad eliahu
Did he take Kamala's spot?
Is that what happened?
jack posobiec
Yeah, so Kamala, when she became Biden's vice president, he got appointed by New York.
I believe he was either up at the same time or just before Schiff was elected.
elad eliahu
Damn, really?
California's sending us their best.
tim pool
Oh, is it thunderstorming right now?
phil labonte
It could be.
tim pool
has been rumbling going on.
jack posobiec
But isn't it kind of amazing that California, which was represented...
unidentified
It's almost like their words mean nothing.
jack posobiec
Wait a minute.
tim pool
Well, it's like that white guy who was like, oh no, not work.
unidentified
Oh!
Those are the types of people that have destroyed and invaded New York City.
Did you see that video of the black girl in the car trying to get to work and there were the white liberal protesters blocking the way and she was trying to talk sensitive.
tim pool
And they were like, but the children in Gaza, and the children were being deborted, and she was like, what about my kids?
And then Sav Hernandez was like, And he goes, oh no, not work.
phil labonte
Not work.
jack posobiec
Yeah, that's, well, that's the heat wave, or the heat map meme.
phil labonte
That should really infuriate people.
jack posobiec
Ordo Amoris.
unidentified
You can tell that that woman is a native New Yorker, and those white liberals are the types that have destroyed this city.
The champagne communists, the oh no, not work, while they're living off their trust fund on the Upper East Side.
tim pool
Or welfare.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
Koffer, the great longshoreman philosopher, wrote back in the 50s in True Believer that the reason that Karl Marx got it wrong when he said the working class will eventually unite and revolt is that they won't because they're too busy working.
And typically the way you see these mass movements run, it's that upper – They never have that and so they become susceptible to these just insane mass movements because they're really just kind of very bored.
tim pool
Guys, by the way, I'm an anarchist now.
Michael Malice, kind of anarchist.
unidentified
What pushed you over the edge?
tim pool
Having to deal with state government.
unidentified
That'll do it.
tim pool
I'm just like, after the 897,000th bull thing that pops up, where you start, and everybody knows this, so I'm only half kidding, but the law is constructed in such a way that the government can enforce whatever they want in any way, however they want.
And then make you spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees to try and challenge it.
After which, what they then do is pull a uno reverse, creating an alternative where basically they're like this.
You've got to pay us X amount of dollars for this registration form.
And then you go, no, that's ridiculous.
That doesn't apply to me.
Okay, well, then we're not going to let your business operate.
Okay, well, that's what?
So you call your lawyer.
Then they come back and say, now you have a new delinquency regulation and we're going to charge you ten times this.
And then the lawyer goes, just pay the fee.
And it's just like, at this point, I think abolish all of it.
I don't care.
Snake oil, whatever's stupid.
Don't care.
Just start over.
We've got to start over.
I don't think people understand how hard it is to run a business in this country.
It is the stupidest effing thing imaginable.
It took us like a year to do the documents longer for the coffee shops so we could have franchises.
Now it's taking us another six months to go through the paperwork for individual proprietors.
It is psychotic what this country – like the incentive right now is I work 16-hour days and on weekends and then I got to pay the government extra because – It's a salary.
So then I got to pay the government extra.
So it's like, okay, the incentive really is constructed in such a way to be communist.
Just say, don't do any extra work.
It's not worth it.
Just chill.
Just go chill.
That's how this country has been set up.
And it's intentional.
That's the problem.
Right now, the path towards building and expanding this business is so psychotic that it's just not worth the effort.
What is it saying?
It's not worth the squeeze or whatever?
phil labonte
Juice is not worth the squeeze.
tim pool
You're not getting anything out.
It's like, the harder I work, the less you actually get, the less the business develops.
So the best idea is just stop working.
Find that apex point where you work just enough to get the most amount out of it, and then stop.
That's the way the United States and the state business regulations are constructed.
phil labonte
It's nuts.
The biggest inhibitor to economic growth is always the state.
You know, it's always the state saying you need to make sure that these rules are followed and we have to come out and check to make sure that you follow them and we're not in any hurry to do that kind of stuff and there's all the infrastructure that you need to develop your business and stuff.
tim pool
It's not just that.
It's that they regulate.
So everything's illegal in business.
100% everything's illegal.
You do one thing, they come on and say, oh, you can't do that, you owe us.
And you say, okay, I'll do the other thing.
That was illegal too.
I owe us for that.
It's like, okay, what can I do?
Nothing.
We're going to do whatever we want.
The federal government does it, the state government does it, every state government does it.
There's literally nothing you can do.
The whole game is literally just grease the wheels, I guess.
It is totally busted.
It's gotten worse.
And it's getting worse.
And I don't think people realize how bad it's really getting.
And I'm like, I think it's part of the plan.
Because they're basically saying, stop.
Working.
Live in the pot and eat the bugs.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
tim pool
Here's my idea.
So Trump said no tax on overtime.
I'm going to start paying myself an hourly wage and then my contract will have mandatory overtime.
You do a morning show, you get paid your eight hours.
But then you've got to work another eight because the late show will pay you overtime.
And then I'm going to pay taxes on it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
There you go.
tim pool
Although, to be fair, I think there's a cap.
I don't know what the cap is.
elad eliahu
It's official.
Tim's coming out in support of the one big, beautiful bill because of their tax cut.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
No, I'm anarchist now.
jack posobiec
Actually, that's a huge point, though, as well, is that there was a good amount of momentum that was being built up for the border bill, and it's just gone now.
It's just like not even something that's being discussed anywhere.
And the White House put a lot of equity into that bill.
The White House put a lot of time into it.
They'd been working hard on, you know, they need 50 votes in the Senate to be able to at least 50 votes in the need of JD if there's a tiebreaker vote needed.
So they had put all of that momentum in.
That's just like it's like the entire domestic agenda is now just over here on the shelf.
tim pool
So the big, beautiful bill, no tax on overtime so long as you make less than one hundred and sixty thousand per year.
So once you get to that point.
It kicks in.
over time up to that point doesn't count.
elad eliahu
I think for most people, though, that would be...
tim pool
Yep.
But the Senate standalone bill does not have the no tax on overtime.
Interesting.
elad eliahu
Can't get anything right over there.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
And the no tax on tips is only up to $10,000.
unidentified
In what period?
tim pool
For the year.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
That seems low.
elad eliahu
It was always going to be too good to be true.
unidentified
Yeah, that seems beyond low.
tim pool
For the average worker, they're probably not doing that much in tips.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But I was talking to the guys at the casino because the dealers are all largely tip-paid.
And then I was talking to him about it and we were at the craps table and one guy was like, I was like, hey, you don't got to pay tax on this now, do you?
I threw him a tip.
And he was like, what do you mean?
And then the other dealer was like, Trump's bill.
If it passes, we don't got to pay taxes on any of this.
And then he was like, oh, and I'm like, I think y 'all got some new Trump supporters in here.
They don't care about politics.
It's being told you get to have more money.
jack posobiec
That's why I think that vote in the Senate was like 100-0 when they put that up as a single bill because it's just everybody knows that you're just done politically if we can pin you against that.
phil labonte
Yeah, you can't vote against that at all.
tim pool
Michael Howard says, let me buy that board but put trucks and bearings and wheels on it.
Oh, you mean the Timcast Skate Company skateboard with the Timcast Skate Company skateboard logo?
Look at that.
So the story with that is...
That image, that logo, is on skateboards.
People got tattoos of it.
It's in all the skate parks, spray-painted and stuck places.
One of the most iconic logos, and they abandoned the trademark.
And so as soon as they did, I announced that I was going to be taking it and using it for my company, which I am, the Tim Cash Skateboard Company.
And so we've made those boards several years ago and have featured that board on the show for years now, and they've not challenged it in any way.
So I would assert, as of a long time ago, I now own that logo.
Also, I own a company called Slave Skateboards.
There was a skateboard company called Slave and they abandoned the trademark because they said it was offensive.
So they changed the name to Glass House and I immediately said, I own Slave.
phil labonte
I'm buying everything offensive.
tim pool
I own Slave.
elad eliahu
He owns the slaves.
Slave, rather.
unidentified
Are we ever going to get Aunt Jemima back?
tim pool
I say we just take them.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to make Aunt Jemima...
elad eliahu
Oh.
unidentified
Do it.
tim pool
And if they're like, we own that logo, I'll be like, you don't use it.
unidentified
Yeah, where is she?
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll use it.
ted cruz
Send a ship for her.
tim pool
It's still on all the boxes.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, it says, like, formerly Aunt Jemima or something on it.
unidentified
But down her picture.
tim pool
You know what's really funny is, like, the brand Aunt Jemima was great.
It's like that you're loving Aunt making you pancakes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Lots of syrup.
But now it's the Pearl Milling Company.
And it's just, like, it looks generic and disgusting.
And you're like, what is this?
unidentified
It sounds weird.
I don't want it.
Yep.
tim pool
Aunt Jemima.
unidentified
I miss her.
phil labonte
She was always happy.
elad eliahu
It was a more maternalistic aesthetic to her.
tim pool
But they didn't like that she was black.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was funny because it was white liberals that didn't like that a black woman was serving them pancakes.
jack posobiec
It was also – it reminds me of when they – I guess they removed Gone with the Wind from – It's actual black history, and yet you've now excised it.
tim pool
I'm telling you, the Democrats at some point were like, guys, this overt racism isn't working.
Let's try subversive racism.
And so they figured it out.
They were like, look, is Chef Boyardee still there?
He's still there, right?
Mr. Clean, he's still there.
Yo, what up?
The Quaker Oats guy?
He's still there.
unidentified
On behalf of the Italians, you can have Chef Boyardee.
tim pool
All of the white mascots are fine.
They've removed all of the people of color mascots while claiming it's because it's racist to do so.
And it's like, okay, I guess...
Aunt Jemima?
They should have just made Aunt Madeline and just literally made her white.
And then be like, now nobody's mad, right?
unidentified
Oh, I would love to see how that would have gone over.
They'd be mad no matter what.
jack posobiec
My favorite one of those was...
phil labonte
Get rid of the native and keep the land.
tim pool
That's what their plan was.
unidentified
They took Uncle Ben from us too, right?
jack posobiec
Yeah, Uncle Ben's gone.
unidentified
Yeah, but all the white guys are still there, huh?
tim pool
You know what we should do?
I'm going to take an identical Aunt Jemima kind of logo, but make a white woman.
And be like, this is cool, right?
jack posobiec
No, this is what they always do.
This is what I was saying about New England.
Like, New England, they actually, you know, because it's predominantly rich white liberals.
Not all.
There's also working class New England.
I call that NASCAR New England.
There's like Granola New England and NASCAR New England.
But in Granola New England, you notice that the way that they run their personal lives is actually very not woke.
Their divorce rate is low.
They're very homogenous.
Obviously, they don't practice DEI at all.
They don't practice CRT at all.
It's just they say they support those things.
tim pool
Hey, wait.
Aunt Jemima's back.
jack posobiec
No, she's not.
tim pool
I just Google searched it, and you can buy it right now.
Aunt Jemima buttermilk complete.
jack posobiec
But that's not like some eBay guy who's got him in the back of his van.
tim pool
Walgreens.com.
She's back?
Shop all Aunt Jemima products.
jack posobiec
We won!
tim pool
For real?
And then, uh, cause I was just like, I'm gonna Google search this.
unidentified
What about Uncle Ben?
What about Uncle Ben?
tim pool
Walmart has, uh, Walmart has Aunt Jemima original syrup.
Uncle Ben.
unidentified
If we got them both back.
tim pool
Uh, yep.
Walmart has Uncle Ben, and there is a black man on the box.
unidentified
Woo!
phil labonte
Nice.
unidentified
Good for him.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
You make that rice, Ben.
phil labonte
There he is.
tim pool
They brought him back.
When was this news?
No one ever said anything.
unidentified
Yeah, how did we miss this?
tim pool
I bet Lando Lakes didn't bring back...
phil labonte
Nanda Lakes has not brought her back.
tim pool
She's gone.
Aunt Jemima, huh?
I'm at Walmart.com.
Aunt Jemima.
Let's see what's up.
No, on Walmart it says Pearl Milling.
That's gross.
You know, that's weird.
unidentified
She's like on the ship.
Here.
tim pool
What if it's just like five-year-old a box of Aunt Jemima they still have?
unidentified
It probably is.
tim pool
Okay, yeah.
I went to...
What story was it?
It was like...
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Wegmans, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and they had a big, huge thing of Pearl Milling Company.
And I was like, it's the only time I'm inclined to go Antifa and just start knocking things down.
Get out of here!
Anyway, my friends, smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone, you know.
We're going to that uncensored call-in portion of the show.
You can find that at rumble.com slash TimCastIRL.
Don't miss it.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
If you'd like to call into the show, join our Discord server at TimCast.com.
There's tens of thousands of people.
There's a chat room.
Hang out 24-7.
You will make friends.
Some people even got married.
You should officiate.
Maybe.
unidentified
Did they get married yet?
tim pool
High enough level member.
elad eliahu
He wouldn't show up in a suit.
tim pool
Mike, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
You can find me on X at NotMikeHarlow or my YouTube channel at MikeHarlow.
I'm very excited for the Uncensored show because I'm always sweating trying not to curse on the live one.
But thank you for having me.
I'm so happy to be here.
phil labonte
Good job.
jack posobiec
Jack Posobiec against Regime Change Wars.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
unidentified
That too.
Well, again, Iran cannot get a queer weapon.
elad eliahu
That is the tagline.
My name's Alad Eliyahu.
I'm a journalist here at TimCast.
You can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at Alad Eliyahu to follow my White House reporting and field reporting.
Recently, it's been ICE protests and ICE arrests outside of immigration courts.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can check out our new record entitled Anti-Fragile on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all over at rumble.com slash timcastirl.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks.
Thank you.
tim pool
What it is.
We were just talking about...
He finds the knowledge gap and then berates him with it, and I'm like, uh, that's some weak-ass pussy shit, bro.
So when I'm talking about Ukraine, and I said Russia won, because Russia controls the regions they sought to control from the beginning of the war.
jack posobiec
Mostly.
tim pool
Mostly.
And then someone says, no, they were trying to take Kiev.
And then I'll be like, right, but they pulled back from there, and then they took the land bridge into Crimea, so now they control the regions they wanted.
jack posobiec
Also, Russia never said that.
Mark Milley said that.
tim pool
Exactly.
In three days.
And so, then they'll be like, no, Russia was trying to, and I'll be like, okay, what were the regions that Russia was fighting over to begin with?
I don't know.
Okay, what are the regions they have now?
I don't know.
Okay, name a single oblast in Ukraine at least.
I don't know.
You don't even know what the fuck we're talking about?
jack posobiec
Do I get to?
tim pool
Do I get to?
You name them all?
jack posobiec
All the oblasts?
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Or all the ones in contention.
So Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson are the four that Russia is fighting over currently.
Obviously, Crimea would be the fifth.
However, there are Russian troops currently in Kharkiv, Oblast, Nikolaev, Oblast, and...
Well, Nikolai Roblast has faced attacks, I should say, and a variety...
tim pool
Touch with an M. What?
Touch with an M. What?
The other oblast.
jack posobiec
Nikolaev.
tim pool
Mariupol.
jack posobiec
And Mariupol.
elad eliahu
Isn't that a city?
tim pool
The oblasts are typically named after the cities.
So there's like Kiev Oblast, there's Lviv, Donetsk, Lhansk, etc.
Yeah, isn't Mariupol the one that's split?
jack posobiec
I thought Mariupol was a city.
tim pool
Maybe.
No, isn't Mariupol just above Crimea?
jack posobiec
That is where it is geographically.
I could be totally wrong.
tim pool
I could be wrong.
unidentified
I think the first four...
tim pool
That was Karsan.
My bad.
elad eliahu
The four or five oblasts that you mentioned, the first five, I believe Russia also claimed to be a part of Russian territory now that they wanted to inherit into the Russian Federation, if I'm not mistaken.
jack posobiec
Well, yeah, yeah.
So that's that's what Russia, you know, started kind of kicked off all of this was that Russia is saying that their their contention is that these oblasts have vote, you know, well.
They would say that these oblasts broke away from Ukraine, voted internally, and there were votes taken, to be sure.
Of course, the, you know, legality of those votes and the efficacy of those votes is called into question to join the Russian Federation and then Russia and then Russia accepted them into the Russian Federation.
The reason Russia did this is because they were throwing all of the United Nations and and.
And so they said, well, we just followed the same process you guys laid out.
tim pool
I was incorrect.
Yeah, Mary Paul is in Donetsk.
jack posobiec
I was close.
I was close.
tim pool
No, no, no.
You were right.
unidentified
I was wrong.
tim pool
You got them all.
elad eliahu
I didn't know Poles get so tan.
Were you just coming back from vacation?
jack posobiec
No, I just spend time outside.
I love the sun.
No, we get very tan.
unidentified
Around here?
jack posobiec
Well, not lately.
Not lately, but the last couple of days, but as much as I can.
Yeah, no, it depends.
There's different Slavic skin types.
So my wife, she gets super tan.
It's such a cheat because she goes outside, looks at the sun, and is like, poof!
And she's just golden for the rest of the summer.
But then you also get ones that are super pale.
elad eliahu
That's what I'm used to.
jack posobiec
Oh, this is weird.
tim pool
Hey, if you Google search Uncle Ben's or Aunt Jemima's, you will find the OG products.
But if you go to the Walmart website, he's gone.
He's not on it.
jack posobiec
I thought you just said it was there.
tim pool
If you Google search it.
So when I Google search Uncle Ben.
jack posobiec
How did you find it the first time?
tim pool
I Google searched Uncle Ben and then clicked and opened Walmart and he pops up.
unidentified
I'm telling you, they're on the ship on their way here now.
jack posobiec
I hope you're not going through the Strait of Hormuz.
phil labonte
This is never getting here.
unidentified
Iran has bombed the last shipment of Aunt Jemima.
jack posobiec
War!
Okay, then I'm on board.
unidentified
Then I'm on board.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I'm on board.
unidentified
We will fight for that aunt.
jack posobiec
I'm like, our beloved aunt.
Are you sure?
Are you sure this is really Iran?
This could be a false flag.
No!
Aunt Jemima needs our support now more than ever.
Ain't nobody gonna do Jemima like that.
Not on my watch.
unidentified
Somebody should just sell Aunt Jemima labels to print out and put on real label syrup.
jack posobiec
Well, that's what he was saying.
That's what he was saying.
He should just, you know, what would you even call it?
It's like adverse possession.
tim pool
Check it out.
unidentified
Aw, there he is.
tim pool
When you Google search it, it's here.
jack posobiec
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
But if you go to Walmart.com, let me pull up another Walmart.
Get out of here, you stupid Walmart.
When you straight up search.
Actually, let's just do this.
Look, there's Uncle Ben, right?
Look at him.
Staring at you.
elad eliahu
Looks washed up.
tim pool
Uncle Ben.
phil labonte
He gone!
unidentified
They colonized him.
elad eliahu
It kind of looks better that way, doesn't it?
phil labonte
No.
Segregation.
tim pool
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to order this, and if it shows up and his face ain't on it, I'm going to return it and complain.
unidentified
If it's on there, you should put him and Aunt Jemima up.
In a shrine.
phil labonte
Where's Ben?
Why did you send me rice without Ben?
unidentified
Even Aunt Jemima, dude.
tim pool
Aunt Jemima.
unidentified
Why would you send me Ben's rice without sending me Ben's face?
Further proof that everything woke turns to shit.
Oh my god!
tim pool
Original syrup.
unidentified
She's gone, though.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, the bottle used to be her.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think I read it.
Oh, pearl milling.
Oh, look at that.
Oh, jeez.
64 ounces of pearl milling syrup.
unidentified
That's like cardiac arrest in a bottle.
phil labonte
It's not even real, is it?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I love how they call it breakfast syrup or table syrup.
unidentified
They have to.
tim pool
Original syrup.
unidentified
Cheese product or wine product.
I don't know if I've ever had Oh, it's really good.
elad eliahu
What?
I don't know if I've had, like, real, legit maple syrup.
All I've had growing up was Aunt Jemima syrup.
tim pool
Yeah, unless it says maple syrup.
jack posobiec
No, actual maple syrup is fantastic.
We have a bunch.
elad eliahu
What am I going to put it on?
tim pool
You just drink it.
You don't have a glass of maple syrup for breakfast like the rest of us?
elad eliahu
Aunt Jemima's, like, a shitty carbon copy of it?
tim pool
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
jack posobiec
It's just syrup.
unidentified
Yeah, it's fake.
tim pool
These syrups, like Mrs. Butterworth's, were always corn syrup-based table syrups.
jack posobiec
Yeah, table syrup.
tim pool
Because I thought, at some point, Mrs. Butterworth's was actually maple.
And so I looked it up, and I'm like, I thought it was maple syrup, and then eventually they switched to maple-flavored and then got rid of it.
No, no, they were always garbage corn syrup.
unidentified
Indeed.
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