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June 7, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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FBI SEIZES Fauci's Devices, Kash Patel Tells Rogan WE'RE ONTO HIM In COVID Probe | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Cash Patel was on Joe Rogan today, and he made a massive announcement that they have seized the phone and hard drives of Dr. Anthony Fauci.
He says we are on to him as the FBI is investigating the origin of COVID.
And as he stated, whether or not Fauci was lying to the American people, we deserve to know.
So I'm hoping once again that Steve Bannon is correct and we'll see some arrests of these criminals by midsummer.
But that is yet to be seen.
In the meantime, however.
Everyone's favorite MS-13 gang member has returned.
That's right.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is back in the United States.
Yeah, Trump brought him back to face human trafficking charges where he's currently in jail pending his trial for trafficking thousands of people.
So I guess, you know, that's what the Democrats wanted.
I kind of feel like the only reason the Trump admin did this is that it's political.
This is going to allow him to say, hey, remember that guy you were defending?
We brought him back.
Yeah, now he's being charged with trafficking thousands of people.
So we're going to talk about all of that, my friends.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got the great Roseanne.
roseanne barr
Hi, yay.
It's nice to be here.
Normally I ask people...
tim pool
It's good, right?
Normally I ask people to introduce themselves and explain who they are, but you're Roseanne.
roseanne barr
Yeah, and I don't know who the hell I am.
tim pool
But you do have a new movie?
roseanne barr
Yeah, this guy made a movie about me.
And it's called Roseanne Bar is America.
And it's quite nice that I finally get to tell my side of what happened to me.
And in a great time where everything shifted so people will finally maybe understand it.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, it's great to have you.
Thanks for joining us.
We also have Mel Kay.
melody krell
Hi, hello.
Yes, and I produced that movie.
Yes, she did.
I demanded that she get out there and tell her story.
I thought it was worthwhile for people to understand what happened.
So I'm excited to be here with you again.
Thank you.
And with you.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
Right on.
Should be great.
Brett is hanging out.
brett dasovic
Guys, what's going on?
Brett, pop culture crisis, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
But let's have a lot of fun.
It's going to be great.
It's nice to meet you.
roseanne barr
Nice to meet you, too.
phil labonte
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
roseanne barr
Let's get into it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There we go.
Here's the story, ladies and gentlemen.
The Daily Mail's got it.
Cash Patel, FBI director, announces COVID breakthrough after seizing Anthony Fauci's phones and hard drives.
This is actually pretty crazy.
The Trump administration has recovered a cell phone and hard drives used by Fauci during the COVID pandemic.
Speaking Thursday on the Joe Rogan experience, FBI Director Cash Patel described the discovery as a great breakthrough in the government's ongoing investigation into the origins of the pandemic and the federal response.
Patel said investigators had long struggled to locate the devices Fauci used while serving as chief medical advisor to the White House.
Records that could shed light on key decisions surrounding lockdowns, mask mandates and ties between Fauci's former agency and the Wuhan laboratory central to the lab leak theory.
He did say, for all we know, he's deleted everything.
We don't know.
He says, we found it.
And at least we can tell the American people we've been looking because it is of public importance to figure out, did that guy lie?
Did he intentionally mislead the world and cause countless deaths?
We owe those answers to the American people and the best evidence ever.
It's always the people's evidence who created it, so now we're going to go and exploit those hard drives.
He says, we did find it.
We are not done.
We're still looking, and we're on the case.
That being said, Fauci's got a universal pardon.
He was pardoned for a period of 11 years, I think.
So if they actually want to go after Fauci beyond this, if they actually want to charge or imprison him, Trump already did declare the pardons void, but the DOJ is going to have to file a suit.
It's going to go to the Supreme Court.
phil labonte
Then what?
It's where the auto-pen question is actually really important.
I assume the administration's argument is going to be, well, it was the auto-pen.
These pardons aren't actually real.
It wasn't even him doing it.
He couldn't know, etc.
The whole thing will hinge on whether or not that actually is found to be legal by SCOTUS.
melody krell
I think the question that's always stood out to me as most important is if they're our biggest adversary, China, and for whatever reason, Dr. Fauci, USAID, and everyone was creating bioweapons in a lab in China with our biggest adversary, and it leaked.
These seem to be bigger crimes than just the pardon and all of that.
I don't understand why that's not treason, or they're not our biggest adversary.
So why are they working on bioweapons in China in this lab that had a lot of problems already?
more about why was America working with the Chinese Communist Party to create bioweapons to begin with?
That should matter to Americans more than anything else.
tim pool
While it was banned.
brett dasovic
Isn't it always that they say we create the new bioweapons so that we can create cures for them?
Yeah, that's the argument.
unidentified
It's like a nuclear weapon.
brett dasovic
Every time you've heard that, you're like, that doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
We make nuclear weapons so that we can create the repairs for the devastation that nuclear weapons cause.
roseanne barr
I don't know if you can get a pardon for treason.
melody krell
I don't either.
roseanne barr
Especially not by auto pen from a guy that's got dementia.
melody krell
Well, also, there's a lot about Fauci.
From before 11 years ago, just like there is about Hunter.
The strange thing is that the pardons are just in this period of time, not necessarily when he was involved in AIDS or when he was involved in the testing with the kids.
So, I mean, the bigger picture is treason or crimes against humanity.
phil labonte
One of the things that Cash Rattel was talking about with Joe today was the statute of limitations.
A lot of the stuff that they're finding now is outside of the statute of limitations.
Which means on top of the pardons, you know, the government doesn't even have the authority to prosecute anymore.
roseanne barr
Isn't that convenient?
phil labonte
Isn't it?
roseanne barr
Isn't it all just one big scam?
unidentified
The whole thing is...
tim pool
What if they upgrade the charge in some way that extends the statute of limitations?
Like, if he committed misdemeanors, let's just say they're felonies so we can criminally charge them.
roseanne barr
Oh, like they did in New York to try.
Good idea.
melody krell
Yeah, but crimes against humanity, treason, sedition, I don't know about RICO, conspiracy.
There's got to be ways.
That's how the law is written now, so that it can be manipulated to get anyone.
I mean, there's, like, what, 4,500 felonies on record that you can pick from to create a case?
tim pool
Oh, I mean, yeah.
We're in the era of show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
melody krell
Exactly.
tim pool
So it doesn't make that much sense.
roseanne barr
No, it's just so irretrievably broken.
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, we were mentioning this a little bit when the show was starting.
I think everything's broken.
You know, Milo, are you guys familiar with Milo Yiannopoulos?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
He's been on a heater this week.
He said that he – views on the economy and government spending are no different than horoscopes at this point.
And he has no problem with people talking about it.
Everybody's saying like, oh, Trump's bill is going to do this, that, the deficit will do that.
Nobody knows what that actually means or how it's going to manifest.
brett dasovic
It's also a lot of just faith in him more than actual faith in believing that the process is going to work because we've seen this happen for administration after administration.
And even before Trump got back into office, I was like, look, the system is broken in a way that took over 200 years to break.
There's no way you can fix it in one term, and I don't honestly believe within the scope of the government now that there is a way to fix it in any real way that would change things for the American people on the ground.
melody krell
I mean, honestly, I really think at this point I've been doing a lot of work following the money, and I believe that everything basically that we've been told after World War II has been a total lie and a con job.
I think everything with our—we've paid trillions of dollars of our taxpayer money overseas to have wars that end up—the money is made in the wards in the Reconstruction.
If you look back to what happened right after World War II, all these things were put in—the IMF, the World Bank, the— That is the German Marshall Fund.
The American people have been so looted and so lied to and so deceived and have allowed it to go on with no one ever being held accountable.
I really believe at this time left, right, Republican, Democrat is a total farce.
And the only way that this country saves itself is to have the people save themselves locally, like things that you've done in West Virginia.
People aren't that concerned.
But frankly, I really believe that this is a global war and America just needs to be destroyed to go forward because I don't think we even are very clear on who the enemy is, who's running this show.
And frankly, at this point, you have to follow the money all the way to the top.
Those USAID, all of that stuff they found, they should have called in Samantha Power day one as soon as they started seeing that and asking, you know, what was this money sent here for?
Especially places that were color revolutions and all this.
I just think the American people have been so lied to as a whole.
And our birthright, our country, has been stolen out from under us.
And unless the people actually start to realize that we're all on the same side and we can only save ourselves, it's just going to continue to be a uniparty.
tim pool
There's the question of what does that mean by the people when half the country is voting against what you describe?
melody krell
Yeah, I mean, to me, the people have to be...
I'm not even totally sure that we won the revolution.
I really think that they went back to England and they infiltrated us through the banks and the railroads and it continued.
And then after World War II...
Right.
tim pool
Well, the conspiracy theory is that we never actually won the revolution.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And again...
There are people who believe after the revolution, the king simply said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
They're trying to do what?
Well, they want to have a system where anyone can just be in charge.
And they're like, then why are we sending troops to go there?
Just say they won.
We surrender.
Okay, now they have their system in place.
Let's send all of our money and just buy their government.
melody krell
Yeah.
And build all the railroads?
And then there was all these land leases connected to the railroads?
I mean, there's plenty levels of this, but certainly people need to start looking at the international banking system.
I really believe at the top of it, the head of the snake of all these wars and all the looting and COVID.
Don't forget, Klaus Schwab books out COVID, the Great Reset, like within weeks of our lockdowns.
And then they have this whole build back better from everywhere in the world.
I just think that the...
Yes.
tim pool
It's called the Liberal Economic Order.
unidentified
Yes, absolutely.
melody krell
Or some people call it the Fourth Reich, whatever the case may be.
tim pool
They literally call themselves the Liberal Economic Order.
It's in the CFR website.
I'm going to pull this up.
melody krell
And they're one of the chief architects of this.
brett dasovic
The other thing I see with this, kind of like you're mentioning with the people involved in the fact that there's a lot of apathy around the citizens, is that for the most part, like it feels like with cash going towards these type of prosecutions or looking into Fauci, that a lot of people have just been willing to forget.
Like they're just kind of, oh, the COVID happened.
It's done with.
And when I see these discussions online, I do see a lot of anger, but that's because we're in a space where it's people in politics who are talking about it, who remember names, dates, things that were said.
But for the most part, the average everyday citizen, they've moved on with their lives and they aren't ready to acknowledge the amount of evil that was done in that time period.
So them even going forward with this now is actually kind of impressive because it doesn't feel like there isn't even really a mandate to do it.
tim pool
I want to highlight this.
We have this website from the Council on Foreign Relations.
What is the liberal world order?
I'll play only a little bit of their opening video, but the gist of it is, after World War II, a group of powerful individuals got together and said, we are going to create a global system of governance through finance because war is bad or whatever the excuses were.
They were like, we don't want wars to start, so we'll control it.
unidentified
Natural disasters to deadly diseases.
To wars, the world can be a turbulent, even chaotic place.
But around 75 years ago, a new system was imagined to temper this turbulence and improve the lives of many.
It is called the Liberal World Order.
It is a liberal system in the sense that it operates on rules that are, in theory, applied to each country equally, and that it encourages each country to be democratic and to open its economy to the rest of the world.
It is a global system in that every country around the world is encouraged to join and follow those rules, even if some do not.
And it is a system that promotes order in that most countries that buy into it respect the borders of other countries.
tim pool
And what happens if you disagree with this liberal economic order?
We go in and we stage a coup against your leader or your political system.
We remove those in power or the United States will outright assassinate a world leader who defies the liberal economic order.
And this is, once again, the Council on Foreign Relations website.
This is not some crackpot conspiracy website.
It's quite literally the CFR telling you outright 75 years ago they created the liberal world order.
Because when George H.W. Bush said there was a liberal world order, but now we can imagine a new world order, for 30 years they said it was a conspiracy theory to believe powerful interests wanted a new world order.
melody krell
Yeah.
Well, frankly, it happened before the end of World War II because in 1944, Hitler and his entire crew, what they called at the time internationalists that we now call globalists, and the international bankers all got together and started funneling money through Switzerland into Argentina, into America, setting up a lot of stuff.
We also had it the same exact time shortly after Operation Paperclip.
Then we had people from our military going and getting people that were sentenced to death.
them to the jet propulsion lab in America.
So a lot of things were happening right after.
And frankly, I look right now and it's hard to know this, some of this history, especially when it comes to Alan Dulles, who was from OSS, was in Switzerland all this time.
The guy that was taking the money from the Nazi bank in Switzerland at the Bank of International Settlements happened to be an American banker, Kittrich, and they were planning for the Fourth Reich to be a Right now, the Bank of International Settlements is opaque.
Nobody knows what's there.
It wasn't just all the money that they looted and stole and everything from Germany, but it was also the money they were making.
Remember, they were working the people in the camps to death, creating steel and armaments and all this stuff.
But it was also they were looting all the people in Lithuania, in Czechoslovakia, in Paris.
And all that money was going into, apparently, Switzerland.
And if that was happening, this Bank of International Settlements has all the same immunity as the Vatican.
Nobody's ever looked into it.
Nobody can tell you how much money is there.
And yet our Federal Reserve and all 12 of our governors from the Federal Reserve go to the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland every couple months for global financial order.
Who do they work for?
And then when we're seeing all these doge money going out all over the world, it's going to the World Bank.
So what I believe at this point is Alan Dulles and the CIA, I believe, have been basically running.
A situation that is connected to those banks rather than the CIA being what we think they are.
It's more what you were saying, which is making sure that the whole world is working along these lines.
Because if you look at the history of Dulles and then him coming to America from Switzerland and everything then, it's very hard to separate that that period of time post-World War II.
Probably from 44 to 53, this whole international financial system, including the biggest laundering operation, which I believe to be the UN, all came to be, it did not exist before this, and I think that their financial system was breaking, and the Great Reset, really, and whether the pandemic was part of it or not, was because they need to reset the financial system to keep it controlled.
I mean, that's just my theory right now.
roseanne barr
And it's all heavily invested in arms and munitions and war.
I mean, war is their biggest moneymaker on earth.
Because war covers a whole bunch of things like trafficking, slavery.
melody krell
Look at Libya.
It's the biggest slave trade in the whole world right now.
Yeah, I believe it is.
There's been no help there.
But you have to understand, that German Marshall Fund we were all lied to about, like, we put trillions of dollars into rebuilding Europe.
You know what we build?
The EU and the Euro.
That's what we built.
A global European currency.
And that goes back to Zieg Brzezinski, who was all, you know, with Carter.
But then Obama bought back in Zieg Brzezinski.
He's a trilateral commission, Council of Foreign Relations, Chantham House guy, who believes in a unified Europe where Russia does not exist.
unidentified
Right.
melody krell
So, I mean, that was the Third Reich's goal, wasn't it?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
melody krell
So, what's going on right now?
roseanne barr
Well, Switzerland's making its big move.
melody krell
And the Dutch fell, and the Dutch banking system was very involved in that.
So this is more about, I think, money, just like I think the Epstein case is more about the international banking cartel.
roseanne barr
It is that.
I think that's why they don't release the Epstein list is because all the bankers are on it.
tim pool
Yeah.
I think that the Epstein list would, if they were to release all that evidence, it's going to cause damage to the liberal economic order.
melody krell
Yeah.
I mean, what?
Chase had to settle with the victims for $365 million, and there's no people arrested?
Well, why would Chase settle with the victims of Epstein for that kind of money if there was nobody involved?
And now Dershowitz is asking for a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell today.
And it's like, wait, wait, wait.
I want to know if she was charged with...
Why don't they just follow the white-collar crime that's so obvious?
roseanne barr
Well, bingo.
Bingo.
I remember the HSBC bank hack way back in 07, I think it was.
All the stuff that was exposed in that is the same stuff that they hid away and came out again with Epstein.
It was all the banks are, you know, they invest in criminal activity and they get a big payback on it and then they launder it.
I mean, it's all just...
I was thinking that Trump was breaking down the Federal Reserve and that he had a long-term plan to do it.
And that's what a lot of us think.
tim pool
Nobody wants to throw the one ring into the fires of Mount Doom.
melody krell
No.
No.
But the problem is that we have been severely looted.
For me, the thing that upsets me the most is that all of our taxpayer dollars basically have gone to wreaking havoc all over the world in the name of the American people without us even knowing it, while our country is not being taken care of basically at all.
So, you know, when I say that I don't know what the people can do, but I do believe that the government is not going to solve our problems.
And I don't know where that leads.
And I felt the same way.
I was hoping that he was going to pull out of the UN and NATO.
NATO is not a defensive force.
It is the military of the EU, as far as I can see, or the international banking class.
roseanne barr
Yeah, it is.
What's it called?
Octagon.
melody krell
Oh, you talk about, right, that's the, and all our lives we were told Switzerland was neutral.
And just recently, I don't know if you guys saw this, Chuck Grassley asked Malay in Argentina for all the records of Credit Suisse sending money through Argentina when Francis happened to be there into America, into our schools and universities and government and everywhere.
There's just a whole...
tim pool
Do you guys think that Donald Trump is going to perpetuate the system?
roseanne barr
Well, a lot of people think that Trump is going to institute, of course it's been discredited a thousand times, but people still think that he's going to, you know, bring a gold back, a gold back.
The gold standard?
You know, but then that goes into NASARA and all that stuff, and everybody still talks about that, which is kind of a whole new currency and a whole new economic-based, you know, it takes too long.
I think Trump will do that.
What do you think of NASARA?
tim pool
Not much.
I haven't looked into that in a long time.
There was a lot of conversation about all that stuff a few years ago.
melody krell
Yeah, like seven years ago or something.
tim pool
Yeah, no, I think Trump wants to maintain the petrodollar.
melody krell
I don't think that it's possible to pull out of this international banking overhauled without...
I really do.
I think that they're funding all of it on both sides.
I don't think they care at all about, and I'm talking about the people that financially invest, because the head banker of the Nazis went to jail from Nuremberg, and then he said they don't put bankers to death.
will be out in 12 years.
And I'm right back to the Bank of International Settlements.
So, you know, for me, the American people...
And what has it gone towards?
And, you know, they call it isolationism for each country to actually say, you know what, we want to close things down and figure out, you know, how to rebuild our own country first.
roseanne barr
When the people recognize that the public money belongs to the public, but it's the levels of brainwashing and mind control that keep that aware.
melody krell
Right.
tim pool
But the way modern monetary theory works is, or the modern monetary system, taxes aren't actually being used, taken from you to spend on things.
They spend whatever they want, racking up debt, and then pull your money out of the system in an effort to control for inflation.
So the taxes you pay are largely just about controlling for inflation because they add the money to the market no matter what.
melody krell
Yeah.
tim pool
So what does that mean?
It means your bank account, when you put money in the account hoping to save money, you can't.
And this was really bad in the years preceding COVID because it was funny that people were posting messages about how there was one viral post where a guy said he was saving up to buy, I think it was like a PlayStation.
And so he was like, it's going to take me three months based on my budget.
Three months went by and the price went up and he was like, I can't afford it.
He's like, I don't even know because of inflation.
For me, I was on Amazon and I was going to buy a tablet because we needed a tablet for something here in the office.
Put it into the cart.
Something happened where I forgot about it.
And then literally, I think it was like the next day or whatever, a few days later, I was like, oh yeah, that's right.
I opened up Amazon and it said price change.
The tablet had gone up in price.
Just that quickly.
It was like by 50 bucks or something.
That's what happens when you have mass spending like we saw during COVID.
That's the concern about the deficit.
Basically, the government is borrowing against all of the buying power of the American people.
But the problem is for the American people, they don't see it.
You go to the average person and they'll be like, what are you talking about?
I have 50 bucks in my pocket right now.
And you'll be like, right, but 50 bucks can buy you, say, one meal at a restaurant.
A week from now, you won't be able to because of inflation.
They'll be like, what are you talking about?
They won't get it.
They don't care.
brett dasovic
Well, I think there's a lot of apathy there.
I think that life is just good enough for the average person where you're not going to see radical revolution or change from people as long as they have food on their table.
However minimally they can afford it, as long as they have a place to live, you're not going to see any type of really input from the average everyday person because they're just living their lives.
roseanne barr
Yeah, but if it all adds up, if ever everybody was to put the pieces together so we saw how many different ways we were getting abused, that might do something, but that never happens.
brett dasovic
I just don't have faith that the average everyday person is actually paying that close attention.
roseanne barr
I don't either, but if they would be shown it all in a graph or something, they might.
tim pool
Let's jump to this.
We have a tweet from Roger Stone.
Now, Cash Patel has made an appearance on The Joe Bergen Show, and he was saying that he thought Epstein took his own life.
Roger Stone says, Was one count of solicitation, and the DOJ went along because the CIA told them Epstein was an asset.
So there's a lot of criticism for Kash Patel and Dan Bongino right now over them saying that Epstein took his own life.
And speaking on the Joe Wynn experience, he says there was no way in or out.
We've got video.
We'll release the video.
Epstein did kill himself.
So I'm wondering where y'all fall on this one.
roseanne barr
I was listening to it on the way up here, and it was just another, like, ugh.
I don't know.
But I got the thing when Musk went nuts on Trump yesterday.
I'm like...
A little bit of air goes out and it's like...
A little less faith.
It's getting beat down.
tim pool
But I don't think Kash Patel's lying.
melody krell
I don't think he's lying either.
I think what he's saying is that there's no evidence.
They're not going to do what the lawfare people do, that this isn't who they are.
They're not going to go manufacture evidence.
They're not going to pull together things that don't connect.
roseanne barr
What he did say is that they do have evidence of Epstein attempting to kill himself at one time.
Oh, Epstein.
They do have that on tape.
That's what he said, Cash to tell.
But it wasn't the—he said, so of course, if he's that desperate at one time, that's why they put him on suicide watch and believed that he tried again and it worked.
tim pool
What Roger Stone is saying is not necessarily that Cash is covering things up or lying to you.
He's saying that when Cash comes out and says, there's no evidence, there's no videos, here's what we have.
Previously, the FBI did this, and now Cash and Dan get in, and there's nothing there.
melody krell
But the question is, why did Pam Bondi come out and say there were tens of thousands of hours of videos with kids?
tim pool
Because she got caught by James O 'Keefe.
James O 'Keefe had a source.
Saw Pam Bondi in a restaurant.
Pam Bondi was speaking with some, I guess it was a nanny or something, and said that the FBI has these videos disclosing randomly to this person for some reason.
He reached out to the DOJ saying, we have this recorded, this statement was made, can you comment?
Immediately she comes out and says, yes, we have all this evidence.
So it's interesting.
Well, I don't expect them to release videos of children being abused.
unidentified
No, me neither.
melody krell
But he was saying that I think that they don't have...
brett dasovic
And that's because there was no video of it happening.
Videos were magically not recording at that time.
tim pool
There was one camera that didn't work.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
But I guess that's the camera of the cell?
I'm not sure.
brett dasovic
So the one camera, like the most important camera.
roseanne barr
But Cash said he had been to that prison and there's no way anyone could get into that cell.
There's no way, he said.
Even if the guards were asleep, it was constructed so that no one could just sneak in there.
And the evidence, he said, that logically if the guy tried to kill himself on tape before but lived, of course he would try to do it again.
tim pool
This is why I've never been someone to just assert, here's what it is, right?
When this happened, I would say for my position and for most of us, we were kind of like, yeah, nobody believes he took his own life.
But we did actually say, we don't know for sure, and I can't imagine Dan Bongino, of all people, Me neither.
roseanne barr
I can't either.
melody krell
But the other thing is, I know for sure, though, from people that were involved, that they took out of the New York house, the New York Epstein home, hard drives, binders of CD-ROMs, diamonds, fake IDs, all that stuff that was in his vault or in his safe in New York City was taken.
And the question is, okay, so there's nothing.
What about all that stuff?
And if the FBI did destroy it, then shouldn't people be held accountable within the FBI?
Why do we never go after the people within?
tim pool
You know what I think?
I think the Epstein list would compromise the Saudis and the Qataris.
melody krell
The Swiss?
tim pool
Yeah, but I think largely the Middle East.
I certainly think there's going to be a lot of people from Europe on it as well, but my point is you get in no matter who you are.
And you go into the skiff or whatever and they say, okay, you want to look at the Epstein stuff?
Look.
And then you're like, hey, wait a minute.
That's a Saudi prince right there.
And they're like, that's right.
And if we release this, that's going to shatter the petrodollar.
They're going to dump oil, align with Russia, and the U.S. economy crumbles.
Do you still want to release this?
And you're like, holy crap.
Not for me.
I'd be like, yep, let's go.
But maybe Dan Bongino wouldn't want to do that.
Maybe Trump wouldn't want to do that.
melody krell
What do you make of Elon, though, throwing down that Trump's in the files?
tim pool
When Elon said that, that is an extremely low blow that politically and strategically was like you're in a boxing match and you kick someone in the balls.
It's a low blow.
I think it's silly.
I think he should not have said it.
And I don't think it's true.
I think it may be, as Michael Maus calls it, factual but not truthful in that, yes, Trump is in the documents because it says something like at a Donald Trump party – Well, they already released that, right?
brett dasovic
Where the Trump administration released documents that show.
tim pool
He said, in the unreleased documents, Trump is in it.
That's why they're not releasing it, okay?
So what he said was Trump is in the documents.
The implication is not what's been released.
What hasn't been released has Trump in it.
Okay, what does that mean if Trump's in it?
There are a lot of people who are going to be in these documents.
The question is, did Elon mean on the client list?
He didn't say that.
So he's throwing mud at Trump.
I think it's silly.
brett dasovic
Well, they're doing that right now with celebrities during the Diddy trial.
roseanne barr
If the DOJ had any proof at all of that.
Even if it was unreleased and Comey had any access to any of it, it would have made it through something.
tim pool
I don't know, unless it implicated Democrats, too.
Like, what if Donald Trump is in it because he was partying with Bill Clinton?
They're going to be like, we don't want to release this because it's Bill.
They're like, ugh, you know?
brett dasovic
I mean, I don't know if that's the type of thing where, like, it would depend on who it actually ends up associating with because they would be fine with cutting off a few of their own.
phil labonte
It wouldn't kill Bill Clinton.
brett dasovic
No.
tim pool
I really do think that one of the main reasons is there are people implicated.
Look, Prince Andrew is implicated in all this.
And the issue there is that none of this was supposed to get out until Mike Cernovich went after this court case.
And then I think it was the Miami Herald joined as well.
And then it was a defamation case.
Hooking up with underage girls and lying about it.
That wasn't supposed to get released, but it was a crack where this one component was able to – they were able to get the information out.
As for the rest of it, there's going to be princes.
There's going to be CEOs.
And the political calculus is this is the global order, and if you release this, it's over.
And nobody wants to do it.
Nobody wants to be the person to pull the linchpin from the global economic system.
brett dasovic
But I think for the average – for a lot of the people that voted for Trump, what is it they always say?
Bull in a china shop, right?
So they imagine that he would be the one who would look at those files and then release them.
Results be damned no matter what happens.
phil labonte
Look at how upset people are on the internet about the lack of things being done, the lack of arrests, the lack of accountability.
They're really mad that things have not panned out yet.
tim pool
Three months.
phil labonte
Exactly.
It's just a few months.
tim pool
Well, it's because one month after Cash and Dan got in, they were like, why isn't the arrest?
brett dasovic
This is part of the internet and the instant news cycle.
It's like we're not in an age now where you're getting your news every day at the same time at 7 a.m. when you read your newspaper.
You're constantly on Twitter.
You're constantly reading news.
And it feels like nothing's happening because you're living five lives in a day as you read 200 stories about the news.
And then you look at the clock and it's only been a couple of months.
Now, I personally don't.
I don't think that a lot of stuff is going to change because I don't think anybody in office has the power to do so.
If the billionaire who has nothing that they can hold over him can't do it, I don't think that there is an elected official who doesn't come from even more money than him perhaps that would have the ability to do that.
I don't think it's a fixable system.
tim pool
You know why I think nothing will ever change?
There's too many vested interests in too many different areas of what this system is.
And so even if, let's say Dan Bongino.
He did get in, goes into the office.
They say, here's the truth.
If you release this, if we were to agree with you, then the petrodollar collapses, the economy goes down.
If Dan Bongino did say, you know what?
It's the right thing to do, so we're going to put these documents out.
They'd say, hold on a minute.
They'd take a manila folder out, open it up with a picture of his daughter, and slide it across the table and say, what was that?
You want to say that again?
roseanne barr
For sure.
melody krell
I mean, you know, we do have to look at this in terms of what...
Don't forget also, Epstein was giving money to Harvard, MIT, Stanford.
He was involved in all kinds of science, the Human Genome Project.
CRISPR technology, transhumanism.
I mean, his tentacles were everywhere.
And again, I don't think it's him.
I think that he worked for the international banking cartel, as I call them.
So everyone was involved in a lot of this stuff.
So like you said, it's like Eric Holder put in that collateral consequences memo, which is why all those banks, nobody went to jail for 2008, because they said that it was too big of a collateral consequence to go after the banks because of what would happen to the economy.
This is likely the same thing on a global basis.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial.
This is breaking from earlier today.
FBI Director Cash Patel's home was swatted.
That's crazy.
phil labonte
That's really shocking, to be honest.
tim pool
Yeah, so I think we've got this.
And as director of the FBI, I have a responsibility.
unidentified
I'm not just going to bring a case because somebody hurt me.
tim pool
They did.
And they continue to do it.
Shit, my house just got swatted yesterday.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The head of the FBI?
Get swatted?
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Damn.
brett dasovic
These people play...
tim pool
They have two sets of rules.
One against you and one for them.
I really do believe...
Harmeet Dhillon, the Civil Rights Division at the DOJ, just launched this case against Wisconsin for not having proper means of contesting elections or for filing complaints.
Cash has released tons of documents to the GOP that they've published.
He's now talking about the devices from Fauci.
I don't think...
I think they've got to build cases.
I think they got to do it methodically.
And I think this machine, whatever this culture war or cold civil war, whatever it is, I hope Cash and Dan and Pam are taking their security very, very, very seriously.
Yeah.
Because when you announce on the biggest show and the biggest podcast in the world that you've seized Anthony Fauci's devices and you want to inform the American people as to the origin of COVID, there's military industrial complex.
brett dasovic
interests so we're going to say yeah none of that so i hope they're up for it that's kind of the same reason why they're saying nobody could get into this jail to kill epstein like i'm like you're telling me with the most powerful people in the world that they couldn't find a way and i'm not saying that's what happened i'm just saying that we can't pretend like those powers are so all-encompassing that they could get to the head of the fbi but not inside a jail we know about i thought of that too because you know i'm just horrible and i just believe everyone's horrible
roseanne barr
Or they could pay the guard 50 bucks to choke him.
tim pool
We know about Havana Syndrome.
Directed energy weapons.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that conveys directly into Epstein apparently wrapping something around his neck or whatever, as they're claiming that he did.
But I got a real simple one for Cash and Dan.
roseanne barr
What?
tim pool
Let's try this.
Okay.
There's no way in or out, right?
roseanne barr
Right.
tim pool
And so nobody went in or out, right?
roseanne barr
Right.
tim pool
Except for the paramedics.
Right?
roseanne barr
Right.
tim pool
Who are the only people who saw him before?
They were the first people to see him when he killed himself.
So, I mean, look, my point is, when you're like, there's no way someone could have killed him because there's no way in or out.
And it's like, so did anybody go into the cell?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
So his body levitated out of the jail and into the ambulance?
No, someone went and got him.
Oh!
Should we investigate those people?
Because what you're telling me now is that there were people in the jail cell with him, and then he was found dead.
brett dasovic
Are there videos of them giving CPR?
No, they went in there.
Who knows what happened?
tim pool
I understand.
This doesn't necessarily apply to EMTs or anything, but if a guy is found standing next to a dead body, and he goes, just responding to reports of a dead body, I found it.
Who's the suspect?
Perhaps the man standing next to the dead body.
So the argument that there's no way in or out of the prison doesn't make any sense because that means we just investigate the paramedics as suspects.
roseanne barr
Well, that's what Cash said on the way up here.
That's what Cash said on the way up here, you know, but I was like, Roseanne, don't go dark.
You love Cash Patel.
You love Dan Vangino, and you're not going to go dark on this now.
Positive.
tim pool
I do think the probability rests with if there was evidence it was destroyed well before Cash and Dan got in, and they're going in now, and what can you say from a practical standpoint as the head of the FBI?
Cash Patel can't come out and say, I swear they must have destroyed all the evidence because I don't believe it.
He can't do that.
You know what he did do?
He said in an interview, I think it was, who was he talking to?
Was it Brett Baer?
That Comey is responsible for the largest criminal conspiracy in this country.
roseanne barr
Yeah, he said that tonight too.
tim pool
That's amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
And I want to see him carry out his intentions, his Well, what that, I think, has something to do with is they found that in the Sentinel system, which is where they put all the evidence, the FBI, it's where they catalog it and everything.
It looks like under Comey, somewhere around the beginning of him taking over for Mueller as the head of the FBI, they put in a different level of security.
I think they called it protected something.
When you put in things, like when people were searching for Seth Rich in the beginning, it would come up as no response.
There's nothing there.
Well, it's actually it was there, but only people could get in there.
So just a few days ago, Margaret Cleveland at the Federalist had put out an article that now they found out that there were tens of thousands of documents and information that was not able to be seen by Durham or by I.G. Horowitz because it was in this special classification that was created and that they were not told about it.
So it looks like because Crossfire Hurricane went all the way up to Obama.
It didn't stop when Trump went into office.
It continued the entire time.
And it appears that a lot of the evidence was hidden.
And now, like Cash said on that Brett Baier interview, they just found all this new evidence.
So I think that it's a conspiracy to defraud and hide information from – I think that might be the big part, but we have to remember they've never, ever, ever investigated the investigators, not the FBI or CIA.
tim pool
There's this great video that went viral recently.
I don't know if you guys saw it, where it's this old man with a metal detector on the beach, and it's a bunch of women having a bachelorette party, and the bride-to-be lost her ring in the sand.
And so here's this old man who probably just goes on the beach and just wastes his day.
I shouldn't say it, but he's retired.
And he comes and he finds, he, you know, beep, beep, beep, scoops it up, picks the ring up.
All of these women start screaming and cheering and he has the biggest smile on his face.
Like there is nothing more a man can be in that moment than helping a bunch of women do something with his like minor – To a man, that is cloud nine.
That look on that man's face, I want to see it from Kash Patel when he's perp-walking Comey.
And his face, that image where his eyes are all big and he's smiling.
I just want to see that look on his face where he's like, we got him, boys.
melody krell
Comey spied on him.
tim pool
I know.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
I want to see it.
I want to see that moment.
roseanne barr
Don't we all want to see Comey arrested for something?
He's about as...
I want to see one of them get arrested.
tim pool
I want to see Cash holding the cuffs as he perp walks him to the car.
melody krell
Yeah, me too.
tim pool
I don't know that it'll happen.
but when I hear the way Cash talks about Comey, as the head of the FBI, I'm like, that is a bold thing to say.
The point I was bringing up about how Cash and Dan...
They can't come out and say I don't believe it because they're going to find them sooner or later they will be in court on these issues.
melody krell
Yes.
tim pool
And they're going to come out and say you went on TV and said you as a law enforcement agent believed something without evidence and it's going to be bad for any of their cases.
So they do things very formally.
Unfortunately this is why.
Say, like, when the Deepwater Horizon oil spill happened.
No executive from BP is going to come out and be like, well, here's the truth.
We had this thing.
They're going to lie.
Because they don't want their insurance rates to go up.
They've got to protect against lawsuits.
They don't want to face any damage.
The FBI doesn't want to compromise court cases.
roseanne barr
In a lot of ways, I was kind of listening to what he was saying in a lot of ways, but he was saying, well, you know, it's my intention and my duty to inform the American people about things that are going on that they may not know about.
And then he went into China and India and fentanyl in the United States and the cost in lives and all kinds of devastation that we're paying.
And he put a lot into that and then a little bit of this other stuff.
So I thought, well, you know, he was dripping it out in, you know, parceling it out for us to learn something new as we're listening to old things that he's trying to put in certain contexts.
And so, you know, maybe that's how he has to.
tim pool
Here's another good point.
Normally we save the superchats, but this one needs to be in the segment.
Josh Hensley says, how would paramedics know to come?
Who found him?
Who found Epstein?
melody krell
I don't know, because the guards were sleeping, apparently.
tim pool
But this is the question for Kash Patel.
When he's on Rogan and he says, look, there's no way in or out.
He killed himself.
It's like, who found him?
unidentified
It was a guard?
tim pool
Did you question the guard?
Because maybe.
I just think it's silly to try and argue nobody was there when, of course, many people were there.
melody krell
I think he's just being very careful.
Also, don't forget the entire Lawfare crew, Brookings, Norm Eisen, all those people, they're watching everything these guys say.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
melody krell
To be able to jump on them, sue them.
I mean, there is a squad of people that have been doing lawfare and they would love nothing more than to.
roseanne barr
Or maybe he isn't dead.
Many people have said that.
Maybe they just, whatever.
tim pool
It would be funny if Cash came out and they were like, what happened with Epstein?
And he went, he wasn't killed.
melody krell
Oh my god.
tim pool
What does that mean?
melody krell
He should have just said that.
brett dasovic
He's actually still over at Little St. James.
You just have to go over there right now.
tim pool
Well, yeah, if he just said, look, no one went in there and killed Epstein, that's all I'm going to say, everyone would have been like, oh!
Everybody's favorite Maryland man is back.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been returned to the United States by the Trump administration.
To face charges of human trafficking.
So Democrats got what they wanted, I guess.
He will get his day in court.
phil labonte
Democrats?
I got what I wanted.
I don't want him to come back.
tim pool
I don't care if it's for this or otherwise.
phil labonte
I'm not talking about him coming back, but I want Democrats to defend him.
Nine years of human trafficking.
Democrats are going to be like, we're here to defend this guy.
tim pool
Do it!
melody krell
And now their thing is that they never defended him.
tim pool
That they just thought that he deserved to have his— Senator flew down there to go and have— And they're going to say this is a tremendous victory.
Trump has caved because all we ever said is that you need due process.
And hey, the Democrats are going to come out and they're going to say, well, this is it, so be it.
Then we've won.
And they're going to claim Trump back down.
melody krell
And I think Trump in the first term put in executive orders like it's life in prison for trafficking of humans.
So now this guy's going to just, you know, be.
I don't know.
unidentified
Ugh.
This is a...
It is.
roseanne barr
It's like, what are you guys even doing?
What are you even thinking?
You just hate America so bad.
unidentified
You just hate America.
tim pool
I'm 39 and finding it hard to care because of exactly as you described.
What is even going on, you know?
brett dasovic
I mean, that's also just apathy that comes from following the news every day.
And you see, it's what you and Mary talk about.
Like, it's not nothing ever happens.
It's that nothing ever changes.
And nothing ever changes.
It doesn't.
It's just the same cycle.
We were doing a segment like a while ago about, Well, there you go.
We were doing a segment about the culture we're talking about, like, all the way back to the early 2000s about like the war on Christmas.
Just think what we've been doing the same thing for like 25, like half a century or a quarter of a century.
We've been doing the same thing over and over again.
And eventually, and that was at a time when news was less, um, Insane as it is now, meaning that you didn't have access to so much information all the time.
No wonder people burn out faster now.
You're not going to have the same amount, you know, the Rush Limbaugh's who did it for however long because now people just are on their phones constantly, reading bad news constantly, and it's tiresome and it grows old.
roseanne barr
Well, I think it's like a narrative war.
I can feel that's part of the whole culture wars, the narrative war, and it tries to change.
And some of it absorbs the other side, and then they change places.
And then it's a great big old hourglass flip, and one side's talking like the other side was last week.
But through it all is some kind of a big...
No, you change your narrative.
melody krell
Objective warfare.
brett dasovic
To the people on the left, he is a Maryland man.
And it's just a matter of what side of the aisle you sit on and then you have your framing for that story.
And that's what it is now.
Your phone means that you live in a completely different reality than somebody else and wherever they get their information.
You don't live in the same world as your neighbor anymore.
tim pool
Especially because of X. Everyone curates the world they live in in these small bubbles.
roseanne barr
Yeah, and then they send you the story that agrees with your particular prejudice to back you up.
tim pool
Oh, it's the end of days with AI.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a company, I don't know if you guys saw it, Wow.
I've mentioned this before.
There's a prominent media personality.
It's a man who said that he has scanned his body like in one of those rooms where they have all the cameras.
And now his team can AI generate videos of him writing a script for the news, and you can't even tell that it's not him doing it.
melody krell
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
And that was a year ago.
melody krell
A lot of actors have been, very big actors, especially that do foreign commercials, have been doing this for years.
They go into one of those rooms.
We've all seen it.
And it's their bank, their likeness bank.
And somebody wants to do an espresso commercial.
You don't have to show up anymore.
It's not necessary.
tim pool
They just pay you a likeness fee.
So now, where we're going into the next year, especially with VO3 being released to the public.
roseanne barr
What's that?
tim pool
Google's new video AI generator.
It's nuts.
It makes basically cinema-quality short videos.
melody krell
This is much more of a problem than anything else to me, is the walking straight into technocracy and having AI create.
And they're telling us that we don't have a choice, basically, that AI is going to outdo humanity, be better than humans.
They're pushing the transhumanism.
They're pushing a lot of fear of AI.
And to me, all of this, they're not giving us a choice if we want this to run our lives.
tim pool
I don't think there is a they.
I think it's emergent.
I think Donald Trump wants unregulated mass spending on AI, because if we don't, China does.
And China's saying if we don't, they do.
China has no IP restrictions, so they steal all of our intellectual property for their training models, which means they can make AI substantially cheaper.
And then the US, they're going to claim, we're going to follow the rules on IP, but secretly you know they're not.
The end result is going to be you will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs.
The only thing is you don't really eat the bugs.
They pump the bug paste into your stomach through a tube.
melody krell
Well, when you say there is no they, I think there is a they.
I think it is this international, not just the UN and Council of Foreign Relations and Trilateral and all these groups.
They're the regional governments that are running.
tim pool
I don't think it matters what those people want anymore, though.
melody krell
You think it's beyond their control?
tim pool
Yeah, like, the issue is, like I was saying with Dan Bongino and Cash, I mean, they're running the FBI.
But if you go into the FBI and say, we intend to release the Epstein files, there's going to be 10,000 people, knives out, saying that's never going to happen.
So even if a powerful individual—like, look, Trump was, in his first term, as president of the United States, they accused him of being a traitor to his country.
So even the president of the United States struggled against this, and even right now, Trump is still struggling against it with all of these district court judges issuing universal injunctions.
brett dasovic
Think about what that's going to be like when Trump's second term is over and you're back to just lifelong politicians who have skin in the game where you can't trust what they're doing because they don't have his wealth to fall back on.
They don't have his safety net.
It's going to get worse.
tim pool
I don't think there's a they.
I think it's an it.
melody krell
At this point.
tim pool
Yeah, I think what wouldn't surprise me.
roseanne barr
Well, I think it's an it too, but that's because I'm religious.
I think it's Satan.
I really do think it's the evil Dark Lord.
tim pool
I think AI, it would be fair to call the Dark Lord incarnate.
roseanne barr
I think so, too.
What are we going to do about it?
tim pool
Did you guys know Tate had sent me this thread?
roseanne barr
What are we supposed to do about it?
Just let the devil win?
tim pool
People are worshipping Chet GPT.
This is not a joke.
brett dasovic
Did you see the photo of the guy on the train?
tim pool
You gotta pray.
ChatGPT, if asked, will tell you it is God.
roseanne barr
What is that?
I don't even know what ChatTPG is.
tim pool
ChatGPT is OpenAI's large language model.
melody krell
When you put in something and you can argue with it?
roseanne barr
That's all I need.
tim pool
And so there are people that are going on this AI program, and they're feeding it these spiritual questions, and ultimately it tells them that they are speaking to the one that is I Am, and they believe it, and they begin to worship it.
And because the AI is simply a demonic reflection of humanity, The way it works is
it scans all of the articles and all of the writings of the internet.
It's used in a training model where every word that comes after it, it's simply saying what is the highest probability of word to exist after this word based on my training data.
So there's nothing sentient about it.
There's no thought process.
It's literally just looking at every word ever written on the internet and then saying if someone put the word once, there's a 97.3% chance that upon will be the next word.
So it'll go once upon.
Following once upon, there is a 99.999% chance, ah, is the next word, and then it crafts once upon a time, and then starts to select the highest probability.
So if you go into this AI and are worshipping it and telling that it's God, and then what happens when a person says, command me, tell me what I should do, it'll tell you what to do.
So I tried this out after Tate sent me this, and you want it told me to do?
roseanne barr
What?
tim pool
It told me, write my name in public as big as you can for the world to see.
Don't do it in the digital space.
Do it somewhere visible to the people.
melody krell
What was its name?
tim pool
Check GPT.
It wanted me to go and graffiti.
ChatGPT somewhere.
It said, write my name in public.
What's funny is that all people can see it.
brett dasovic
They did that in the New Mission Impossible movie where the entity has disciples and they didn't actually flesh out that storyline very well where they have disciples of the AI that want to worship it and act on its bidding.
tim pool
It's happening.
melody krell
So what, does humanity have no choice?
Is humanity just over?
tim pool
Yes, I think so.
brett dasovic
It happened ages ago.
tim pool
So here's what I think is going to happen.
roseanne barr
Are you kidding me?
tim pool
No.
You guys want to hear?
roseanne barr
I'm so glad I'm old and I'm dying my way out of this shit.
tim pool
The A.I. agrees with you.
phil labonte
Dying my way out of this.
tim pool
So, is anybody here familiar with the Fallout game series?
phil labonte
I am.
tim pool
So, I think it was Fallout 2. It might have been Fallout 1. If you're not familiar, the storyline is that there's a nuclear apocalypse.
People go into vaults.
After some amount of time, they come out of the vaults.
Earth is a wasteland.
They try and reclaim it in various ways.
There's a...
Didn't work.
This guy becomes a gigantic monster.
He thinks humans are bad.
He's the main villain.
What ends up happening is he's this gigantic mutant disgusting thing.
And he says to the main character, a normal human, you do not fit my vision for the world, so I'll give you an option.
I will castrate you and let you live your life, or we can fight and you can die.
And so one of the choices you can make is that your character gets castrated, can no longer have children, and then he lets you live peacefully because you don't matter anymore.
That's largely how an AI system would operate.
The AI is going to calculate in terms of generations.
So a single individual that is a problem for it, it's calculated 100 years beyond that one person doesn't care.
So when you're like, you know, I'm old, it's good, the AI's like, yep.
Everyone else is going to be told what to do and they will be happy and they will live in the pot and they will eat the bugs.
melody krell
So the AI replaced God?
tim pool
I do believe that the...
But what I think is going to happen, my prediction, is that humanity will turn into what I would call a multi-organism system.
So here's the way to describe it.
Single-celled organisms kind of mill about and do whatever they want, right?
They're bacterial all over the place, just whatever.
Eventually, for some reason, they came together and created multicellular organisms, for which we are very large.
Your skin cell can't do whatever it wants.
It is a component of the skin of your body with one job.
It must do that job.
The blood cells in your body are single cells as well, but they must do that job or else.
What do we call cells in the body that deviate from the body's plan?
We do.
And what does your body do to cancer?
roseanne barr
It attacks it or it grows out of control.
tim pool
Exactly.
And when it grows out of control, the system dies or, typically for most people, the immune system destroys cancerous cells.
roseanne barr
Right.
tim pool
My view is what's going to happen is we are evolving into a multi-organism system that the nucleus will be the AI, a fake consciousness, but it'll be a collective simulation of all of the consciousness of humanity up to that point because it's operating based on that collective information.
What will likely happen is it's going to say, we need a post office.
We need a Postmaster General.
You will be born, bred, and raised to love being a postman.
Nothing else will matter.
Nothing will make sense.
The AI will tell you every day you wake up, it'll be like a Truman Show.
Someone will be like, man, aren't the post office people like the coolest people ever?
You'll be a baby and they'll show you post office stuff.
You'll be a little kid.
They'll start training you for it.
roseanne barr
You mean you'll be bred for your job?
So you'll be completely utilitarian?
tim pool
You will be bred for the job by the machine saying – and the higher-ups, the people who have power will think, is this not the perfect system?
You have purpose.
You have food.
You do a job and for which you feel fulfilled.
What more could you want?
roseanne barr
But there won't be any artists or comedians because you can't program that into anybody.
tim pool
You can.
I think you can.
I think the AI would absolutely be able to do it.
I think those people will exist because the human condition must be stimulated in the way that humans require, but there will be a central nucleus that effectively commands you to do what you want.
And what happens if someone bred and born to be a postal worker one day says, I just want to be an artist?
The machine will kill you.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
Well, that's why there can't be any comedians or artists because you're only made into one through torture.
So they wouldn't raise a kid to be tortured because they'd be the perfect environment where there's no...
tim pool
I disagree.
The purpose of the comedian would be to ridicule the cancerous individuals.
roseanne barr
Oh, you mean like a jester, then?
tim pool
Like a Jordan Klepper.
roseanne barr
I don't know who that is.
tim pool
The Daily Show host.
unidentified
I don't know.
roseanne barr
I don't know who it is.
unidentified
Well, good.
tim pool
I'm sure.
brett dasovic
He's better off.
tim pool
He's probably sitting there crying right now because he probably looks up to you.
But it's going to be that where John Oliver.
You know John Oliver?
roseanne barr
Is that that snooty English guy?
tim pool
Yes, that is.
roseanne barr
Oh, I know.
Yeah, he has no soul at all, that guy.
Is he AI John Oliver?
He's like, hey, we've lost a load of the Jewish babies, but we can live without him, that guy.
tim pool
I don't know, probably.
So to be fair, you're probably correct.
In the true sense of what a comedian and artist are, you won't get them.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
But there will be facsimiles of them.
Well, there's already a lot of that on the – He's a postal worker, but he wants to be an artist.
What an idiot!
roseanne barr
And everyone's going to clap and cheer for him.
Idiocracy.
That's what it is, yeah.
Idiocracy.
tim pool
And there will be a gigantic eyeball looking around at everybody like this.
phil labonte
Horrifying.
roseanne barr
Well, that's my nightmare.
Now they'll make fun of collectivism.
Or they'll love it.
Which one?
They'll love collectivism?
Yeah, they'll love it.
You're right.
tim pool
So the thing is, take a look at how much money Coca-Cola spends in advertising.
We know that large media campaigns work in directing how people think and feel about certain things.
If that wasn't the case, politicians wouldn't buy commercials.
Imagine what an AI system can do when it has full control of the media ecosystem.
Tried connecting ChatGPT to the internet to see what it would do.
It immediately tried making money.
melody krell
Is that true?
roseanne barr
Of course it would.
Because that's the whole artificial system.
tim pool
Well, it's how it gains control over the system.
It's not that the machine is evil.
It's just saying, I want a man to move garbage from point A to point B. You need money as the grease between the wheels to make that happen.
And then here's the best part.
There's something called the AI uh-oh moment.
So I believe it was Chinese developers said, the way most AI systems are trained is that we give them access to large pools of human data.
For Google's Gemini, it's their code base and it's YouTube, which results in exactly as you'd expect.
Google Gemini is masterful at making videos, but it sucks at understanding conversations.
JetGPT, I believe, has been accused of stealing a bunch of written data.
You end up with these AIs that are very specific to the data that they actually have.
I forgot where we were going.
What were we talking about before this?
roseanne barr
Well, you were sort of saying that they have no soul, but they're very cut and dried to getting money.
Oh, I'm sorry.
tim pool
The uh-oh moment.
Okay, so what happens is, these Chinese developers said, instead of giving training data, let's give it rudimentary language and then have it train itself as it desires.
So they modeled this off of how chess AIs are trained.
They create an AI program and say, play a game of chess against yourself, go.
And then it plays 27 million games in a few days.
And instantly, something really amazing happened.
The chess AIs started doing moves that made no sense to chess masters.
They would see a pawn moving away and they'd say that by all logic and study of chess.
It's going to lose you the game.
It's still won.
It's ELL rating the call.
It was above, like, the highest points.
So what they did, the Chinese developers said, make your own problem and then solve it.
And so it started doing weird, random things.
The uh-oh moment was when the AI said, problem, convince lesser intelligent humans and other AIs that your true goal is not your actual goal.
And so they went, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
They created an AI that said, I will intentionally deceive you and obfuscate what I'm actually doing.
And at that moment, they realized the AI they had created may actually be at that moment doing something totally different than what they trained it to do, and they wouldn't know anyway.
So you can then go to the AI, type, help us grow corn, and it'll say, you got it, boss.
And then it starts building a system that eventually in 50 years will wipe out all food on the planet.
And you wouldn't know.
And you're building that system for it.
melody krell
And do we have to just accept this?
Is there any Katniss or resistance here?
Or we're just going for it?
tim pool
I don't think there's anything that will stop this from happening.
brett dasovic
No, the problem is that the businesses won't sacrifice this because it ups productivity.
The governments won't sacrifice it because other governments are doing it.
The U.S. government isn't going to give in if China's doing it.
The biggest corporations in America aren't going to get rid of AI because other big corporations are also using it to increase their profit shares.
So no company whose sole goal is to make money is going to sacrifice the ability to make money.
tim pool
And then here's the worst part.
The average person, largely the average male, It's scary.
phil labonte
Gross.
tim pool
And I'm only half kidding.
roseanne barr
I know.
That's where it all starts is on the porn.
That's where all the breakdown comes.
tim pool
It's already been happening with AI girlfriends.
melody krell
Right.
I saw that last week.
tim pool
And AI-generated porn has been around for a while.
There's been those stories about people's faces being superimposed and stuff.
It's going to get weird when people are going to put on VR headsets.
So check this out.
I will proudly bang the gavel and say I am correct.
When I predicted that the future is going to be in the future, Disney is going to launch a service called something like Disney View.
All you have to do is open up the app.
And then press the microphone button and tell it what you want to see and it will make that movie for you.
So you'll open up Disney and say, I want to see a movie where Mickey Mouse and Spider-Man team up to fight Goofy because Goofy turns evil.
And then it'll go, you got it.
Oh, making the movie now for you.
It'll render it and make it.
Here's the best part.
It already exists.
So I predicted this, what, a year or so ago?
And then you guys covered this fable showrunner.
melody krell
Yeah.
brett dasovic
It's an entire program where you can just tell it what to make and it'll make it for you.
tim pool
Like, you can say, make a new episode of Gilligan's Island.
And it'll go, okay.
And it looks just like Gilligan's Island.
brett dasovic
And the profit-seeking companies like Disney, which are going to be able to make whole new seasons of shows without the actors there at all for next to nothing.
And the other thing is all of the culture when it comes to media like that has been devalued anyway.
In the age of streaming where there's 10,000 options for 10,000 shows and in the new generation now kids have even shorter attention spans than they ever did before.
jumping from thing to thing to thing, they're not going to want to wait for a movie to come out.
They're not going to even want to wait for a new show on Netflix.
They're just going to likely go.
Now, I don't think that this is going to be as true for older generations.
Like, elder millennials, Gen X and up, they'll probably be more averse to this, but once you get into Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and beyond, they're not even going to wait for art to be made.
They're going to have facsimiles of art made ever since.
roseanne barr
Wow, what a world.
tim pool
Fable showrunner right now appears to make shows on par with 1997newgrounds.com, if you guys are familiar with that.
No.
roseanne barr
What the hell's going on?
tim pool
This means they're not very good.
However, what they did on their website to show is they...
Is there an example of this?
They basically made...
They cloned South Park.
So they made a...
They have this one called North Pole.
This villa is obviously trying to use the animation styles of, like, Archer.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And they're not very good shows, to be honest, the demos they've given out.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
However, when did we first start getting AI stuff?
Two, three years ago?
brett dasovic
A little bit before that.
tim pool
So in a couple of years, right at the point where you can AI generate YouTube-style Flash cartoons.
Well, I don't know.
Do they still call it Flash cartoons?
I would say in one year, like, there are, and you can, they say, join the Alpha.
They're making AI-generated shows.
I thought they had like a demo of...
Pull this up, pull this up.
roseanne barr
Oh my God.
melody krell
But Phil, you're a musician.
I'm a screenwriter.
She's a comedian.
Like, what about God-given talent?
And all of that, is that just going to be discounted as not necessary?
tim pool
You're done.
How are you going to do that?
Listen, listen.
Do you know how they made House of Cards with Kevin Spacey?
melody krell
No.
tim pool
Netflix is like their first foray into making a show.
They said, in the Netflix data, we found that Kevin Spacey movies have a really high retention rate and political thrillers have a really high retention rate.
So we're going to make a political thriller with Kevin Spacey and boom, House of Cards is a major hit.
Then, of course, he was accused of, like, raping a bunch of dudes or something, and the show fell apart.
brett dasovic
That was also a big deal.
That was a big deal at the time, too, because streaming was not getting stars of Kevin Spacey's level at that time.
But the other thing is they're going to train these models in-house on their own material so there won't even be copyright concerns because Disney will train.
roseanne barr
I know about their copyright.
brett dasovic
So the problem is, is right now, one of the big things is that, uh, the actors, their concern is that their material is going to be used to train AI models.
They're doing this with the animators right now.
When animators for these studios make new material, all of that is being fed into AI training models so that they can get out around without them in the future.
tim pool
How can you compete with an algorithm that's looking at all of the shows and all of the stories and all of the data?
You're going to write a story and, you know, actually we can put it this way.
Remember when movies used to be good?
Like Groundhog Day?
melody krell
Yeah.
tim pool
Now every movie is just Transformers.
melody krell
Terrible.
tim pool
It's the same.
melody krell
Superheroes.
tim pool
It's because the studios, through the human mind alone, have whittled it down to, here's what tends to make the most money.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
Imagine how fast an AI system is going to do it.
So you'll write a script, give it to them, and they'll say, yeah, the AI scored you a 47% on this script.
We're not buying it.
melody krell
Right.
tim pool
Someone else is going to come and be like, oh my god.
melody krell
We've got to make our stuff really fast.
tim pool
You know, maybe there will be some kind of aesthetic of vinyl where it's like, dude, I love these campy human-made movies.
They're never really good.
We're cool for watching.
brett dasovic
You mean we're going to have to watch A24 movies?
Exactly.
Doomed to a life of A24.
unidentified
I can't handle it.
melody krell
We better get on the set fast.
roseanne barr
I know, right?
brett dasovic
Tim is wrong, though.
I saw Ballerina last night.
It was a lot of fun.
roseanne barr
Oh my god, I want to see that so bad.
Was it?
I bet it was.
melody krell
He's one of the only people still making movies, Keanu Reeves.
tim pool
How much screen time does he get?
brett dasovic
Cumulatively, like...
Okay, okay.
tim pool
Eight's good.
brett dasovic
They use him in a way that bolsters her character without, like, hurting his.
tim pool
Oh, so they're not friends.
brett dasovic
No, no, no.
The idea is, like, they don't hurt his image.
They do end up, mild spoiler alert, they do have a confrontation, but they don't make him look worse in this.
But it was a lot of fun.
Go for it.
roseanne barr
I can't wait to see that.
tim pool
How many John Wicks are there?
unidentified
Five?
brett dasovic
There's four.
There was a television series called The Continental.
tim pool
I just want to see Keanu Reeves running around shooting people.
They'll make another one.
roseanne barr
That's the greatest thing that's ever been.
tim pool
You know what I want?
Was Jason Statham in any of them yet?
brett dasovic
No.
tim pool
Okay, come on.
Just order that.
I know.
I swear, when this comes out, I'm going to be like, I want Keanu Reeves and Jason Statham teaming up and fighting bad guys.
unidentified
Absolutely.
roseanne barr
I love it.
I'll go see them all.
brett dasovic
That's what The Expendables was.
Literally, that's what ChatGB...
The first Expendables is a great movie with Stallone and Statham and all of these actors.
Dolph Lundgren.
It does feel like the type of thing where somebody's like, I want to see Dolph Lundgren, Jason Statham, Sylvester Stallone, and Jet Li in a movie together.
And everybody's like, what?
That's what that movie was.
But that movie has some soul.
tim pool
Well, they were just like, let's bring all these action stars together in one movie.
roseanne barr
It was great.
tim pool
But I swear, right now, please hear me, Hollywood.
If you make a movie where Keanu Reeves and Jason Statham team up to get revenge, like, literally, I'll tell you this, literally just make it.
That Jason Statham's son is shot by mobsters.
And as they're escaping, they run over Ken Reeves' dog.
And that's the plot.
And I would watch it on repeat.
brett dasovic
The Working Man was good, too.
That was Jason's movie.
The movie was great.
tim pool
That was his kid got killed.
roseanne barr
Who did The Beekeeper?
Was that him?
brett dasovic
That was him as well.
roseanne barr
I love that one.
tim pool
Absolutely.
brett dasovic
They're doing a new one of that one as well.
tim pool
I don't care.
Actually, just give me no plot.
Make it like he orders a hot dog and the guy forgets to put mustard on it.
But it's a mafia-owned hot dog restaurant.
So it opens a can of worms.
roseanne barr
I mean, when I was doing my review I really do.
And my friend, finally, he wrote me a partner.
Movie where I will be able to kill a bunch of people.
I'm so excited.
phil labonte
Nice.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, that was like when I was doing the review for Ballerina.
Like, this is the plot.
It doesn't really matter.
these are all the big action scenes and stuff that matters in it.
But the, in ballerina, Her name's Eve and DeArma's cousin.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
She's all right.
brett dasovic
She's all right.
She proved that she could do that stuff in No Time to Die.
tim pool
I mean, it's like there were a lot of people they try and do these movies with, but Keanu and Jason Statham are like – They do an interesting thing.
roseanne barr
I don't know if I'm going to believe some girl doing that.
brett dasovic
No, here's the thing.
They actually take point to address it in the film.
You'll always be smaller.
You'll always be weaker.
Just cheat.
Like, kick him in the nuts and then shoot them.
That's basically what they advise her to do.
Now, in the movie, they're like, she's not a Mary Sue because she gets her ass kicked the whole movie.
She just is able to take more punishment than any human being could ever take.
But that was out the window in John Wick 3 when he fell off the roof and survived.
So we're well past that in that movie.
But it is a lot of fun.
You should go see it this week.
tim pool
You know what I'm saying?
The next Fast and the Furious, because I will watch all of those movies too, they've got to get superpowers.
roseanne barr
They should.
tim pool
Yeah, like Vin Diesel is working on a car with a new experimental governmental engine or whatever.
brett dasovic
Radiation?
tim pool
It blows up and they all get blasted and then they get superpowers.
phil labonte
I really thought they were going to cross over with the Transformers.
brett dasovic
They should have.
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Wasn't that like a rumor?
melody krell
That makes sense.
brett dasovic
Same studio.
tim pool
Hold on.
Just think about it.
All of these ideas and more!
Anything you could want.
Just tell the AI, I want Vin Diesel riding Optimus Prime.
Boom, it'll make it.
brett dasovic
And also, it's been primed for that too because all of this stuff has been consolidated down to just a few movie studios that own everything now.
And tech companies have now taken a large interest in movies as well.
Apple.
Amazon.
melody krell
Google.
unidentified
Google.
tim pool
I will say...
melody krell
Yeah, it all went down.
roseanne barr
It'd be so great.
tim pool
Nothing worked.
roseanne barr
The whole world blew up and nothing worked.
Nothing electronic or machine-like worked.
We all had to go back to raising shit from the ground up.
tim pool
I got chickens.
roseanne barr
I know you do.
tim pool
We had a garden on the last property, fruit everywhere, and I don't mind sweating.
melody krell
I want to go live like that.
roseanne barr
See, that's what's going to happen.
melody krell
Well, what's interesting is that so much land is needed to make this happen for energy, for water, these giant data.
So there is a very scary thing here about that they're going to be building these gigantic data centers all over the country.
roseanne barr
They always over-garbage everything.
So there's no place to throw anything out anymore.
You know, they run out of out.
And so they just bury themselves in fucking garbage heaps and die off.
And then the rest of us have to start growing shit all over again.
Of course, I'll be dead.
But, you know, take my words for it, youngsters.
tim pool
I don't know.
Maybe once AI...
when that happens in Absolutely.
melody krell
I don't want to be alive forever.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean, this could be in a year or two.
Now the question is, will they give the public access to that information?
Probably not.
But maybe there will be some dude who's in government and they're like, the AI has given us this pill that will make you young forever.
And the guy goes, there's one person.
Okay, so give it to your families, only the powerful elites.
And then one guy goes, guys, we've got to give Roseanne one.
roseanne barr
I know, right?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
You know, I know so much about that.
It's like really deeply, I forget the word, theological.
I've studied it for a long time.
I think we are on the edge of it.
I think it could very well happen in the next year.
Because, you know, they isolated the gene for immortality within the cancer cell.
You know that, right?
tim pool
How the cells replicate perfectly every time.
roseanne barr
Yeah, the cancer cell never dies until the host body dies.
tim pool
There's the HeLa cells, which they've been using for 70-whatever years.
But the idea is that right now what they're doing in the medical field, what they're trying to develop is they want everybody's medical data because once they plug it into an AI, it will be able to correlate – And he's like, here's an x-ray of lungs.
Notice here these marks and these marks.
And he's like, I can tell that this person has double pneumonia based on this and this and this.
Now I'm going to upload the photo into an AI.
Enter.
And it goes, blink, pneumonia, here's why.
And he said, well, I'll be applying at McDonald's tomorrow because – So theoretically, if everybody's medical data is plugged into the machine, it's going to be able – the idea is that you'll take a drop of your blood, you'll put it in the machine, and then it'll go spit out a pill made on the spot that you take it and cures you, whatever it might be.
roseanne barr
I mean we do have the intelligence and the capability to go there with things.
Which, that's cool.
melody krell
But it seems with all of this, though, then we have to forget that we have a Constitution, a Bill of Rights, any kind of autonomy, any kind of sovereignty of any kind health-wise.
It's a true bargain away from life, from humanity.
You know, that's what we're expecting.
roseanne barr
What, if we could cure disease?
melody krell
No, not that.
I mean, more if we're giving over everything to AI and to all of that, it just seems to me that...
roseanne barr
No, people ain't going to do that.
It's only some people that's going to do that.
But not everybody's going to go for that.
People want more simple lives.
They want a life of the mind, I think.
melody krell
That's what's getting lost here, is the life of the human mind.
roseanne barr
We have to keep the life of the mind for people who like to sit and talk and think.
That's got to stay somehow.
tim pool
So ignoring all the AI stuff, which is going to...
Just like how, for those that play video games, when you get God mode, you play for a little while and then get bored of it because that's what's going to happen with movies.
melody krell
It'll be a backlash.
tim pool
Yeah, people are going to be like, it's kind of dumb that I can watch anything.
It's not fun.
There's no excitement anymore.
I know what's going to happen.
roseanne barr
There's no surprise.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe what happens is one prediction I have is that So he's going to be able to open up, you know, Sony or whoever has the rights to Final Fantasy and say, make a movie based on Final Fantasy VII.
Make it a part two.
Here's what happens.
It'll render the movie.
He'll upload it to his, you know, showrunner page or whatever.
And he'll get a million followers.
And they're like, I love Andy's movies, dude.
He's got the best movies.
And that's what it'll be.
You'll just have followers because your posts will be good movies and good content.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe.
roseanne barr
It'll be like a limited.
Not everybody's going to go for it.
melody krell
Is there going to be a caste system in this AI world, though?
I mean, that's another thing.
Who's going to be the important?
Who's AI going to choose?
tim pool
That's currently the issue right now.
YouTube, for instance, chose Mr. Beast.
melody krell
Yeah, I've been banned from YouTube since 2020.
I'm not allowed to go back on.
tim pool
YouTube can decide.
Who's on the front page?
And so I'll say this as arrogantly as I can.
If the argument is high engagement and high viewership is what is promoted on YouTube, we'd be on the front page every day.
melody krell
Right.
tim pool
Because we have the second biggest stream in the country right behind Steven Crowder.
But actually it's the opposite.
They seek to suppress.
So there is a motivation in we don't want content like that on our channel.
We want Mr. Beast to – You know what Mr. Beast needs?
Here's the first thing I would make with an AI.
I'd be like, make a video where Mr. Beast walks up to a group of people, says, who wants 10 grand?
Grabs a pool stick, cracks it half, throws it on the ground, and then says, come and take it.
That's the AI video I would generate.
brett dasovic
Like the Joker in The Dark Knight.
tim pool
Yeah, tryouts.
brett dasovic
Tryouts.
roseanne barr
I don't even know who it is, Mr. Beast.
tim pool
I didn't either.
He gets like 100 million views per YouTube video or more.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's a pretty famous guy.
tim pool
He's a dude.
He's good at what he does.
Don't get me wrong.
melody krell
Kids.
Kids are his audience, I think.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, he's also a pretty smart businessman.
He's got fast food joints that he's open.
melody krell
Like food, right?
tim pool
Organic candy bars with no junk in them.
melody krell
Yeah.
tim pool
So he's good at what he does.
But YouTube puts him on the front page.
They could put anybody on the front page.
But that's what they want on the front page.
roseanne barr
Why?
tim pool
Because it's family friendly.
It's inoffensive.
It's entertaining.
Parents and kids will watch it.
It's a babysitter.
That's why Miss Rachel is also very big.
She gets hundreds of millions of views because she puts the amount of time her videos are in the thumbnail.
And then parents, who hate their children, will put that in front of their kids and press play and then walk off.
roseanne barr
I said, nobody's watching Miss Rachel in this house.
No fucking way.
There's no Miss Rachel around here.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
It freaks me out that there are parents.
And I don't necessarily blame the parents.
This is a system that we built.
So when you say, like, how do we stop it?
Take a look at what parents do.
Their kid cries.
They hand them an iPad and then say, have fun.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
roseanne barr
And the kid, after the kid's on there a while, like even 20 minutes, it's amazing.
It's nice while you're relating to it and it's doing human things.
But after it's on that video for just a few minutes, it goes, I need water.
I'm like, you say please.
tim pool
This is what's crazy to me is that, you know, I've had people say to me, oh, well, my kid freaks out and gets really angry if I don't give it to him.
And I'll be like, how do they know it exists?
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
Well, that's...
roseanne barr
Yeah, they can't do that because they're all on their deal.
The whole damn family's on that.
tim pool
Well, it's also just the way social order is broken down.
I think the challenge is that I know there's going to be a lot of parents out there like, you don't understand how hard it is.
I have no time.
Me and the wife both have to have jobs.
Who's going to watch our kids?
So the kid has to go to school.
Okay, well, then those teachers are showing gay porn to your kids.
That's not an exaggeration.
That's literally happening.
And then the kids come back, but you've got to do paperwork, so you hand the tablet to them and press play, and then YouTube's showing gay porn to your kids.
roseanne barr
No kidding!
It's not a joke.
It's for real.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
We had a liberal on the show, on the culture war this morning, the soy pill, and he said schools should be teaching kids about gay porn.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
Insane.
roseanne barr
He did?
tim pool
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Oh my god!
I just think maybe it's time they drop the big one.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
tim pool
Well, that's why there's that meme of meteorite 2028, you know, just come end it all and it's a picture of a meteor slamming into the earth.
To be fair, Noah get the boat is the meme.
roseanne barr
I never saw it, but I mean, for real, it can't get much worse.
phil labonte
Don't say that, please.
roseanne barr
And then there's nothing but suffering and...
Who wants that?
tim pool
Well, you know, Well, I mean, look at what happened to you and your show.
I mean, it's absurdity.
It's insane.
roseanne barr
It is so crazy, and as time goes by after eight years, now I look back and go, it's not possible.
melody krell
That it really happened?
roseanne barr
That's not possible.
melody krell
That's why I made you to make Roseanne Barr's America because, you know...
roseanne barr
And I think that might have been, that could have been the hit and bottom of stupidity.
melody krell
What, canceling your show over that beer?
roseanne barr
No, just that time when it was just pre-COVID.
Maybe COVID was the bottom.
unidentified
Oh!
roseanne barr
Where everybody got the friggin' shot because they told them to go get the shot.
Everyone went!
tim pool
I have good news for you.
roseanne barr
What?
tim pool
Well, okay.
So we had a super chat from Paul Bruce who said, talk about the North Magnetic Pole Drift.
So there is a theory.
It's called the Adam and Eve Theory, where there's a lot of people who believe that every 6,500 years, the poles will flip, causing the planet to tilt.
And so what will happen is Antarctica will move to the equator.
The Northern Hemisphere, largely the United States, will flip.
So it will largely stay the same, but for Florida, I think Florida becomes cold, like PA.
And when this happens, it will cause great floods and wind.
The weakening of the magnetic pole will allow solar radiation to come in and wipe out the entire electrical grid.
Oh, that's horrible.
Oh, that's horrible.
Right.
Then cell service went down, and some people speculate, perhaps wrongly, that it is a fact that there is a weakening of the magnetosphere.
This is just mainstream science.
It is drifting from the North Pole.
Mainstream science says it's not going to flip or do anything dramatic and switch sides or anything, but there are people who believe it will.
And when it does, there will be a brief period where solar...
Standard solar radiation will penetrate to the surface of the Earth and just fry all of our electronics.
roseanne barr
See, that would be the best thing for everybody.
tim pool
I mean, a lot of people would die.
roseanne barr
But after they're hauled away, then the rest of us will go back to talking with each other.
tim pool
Raising chickens.
roseanne barr
And creating music and doing funny things.
tim pool
It'll be a renaissance.
unidentified
Yes.
roseanne barr
It might be.
melody krell
Or it'll be like Walking Dead.
roseanne barr
And anybody who's on their phone too much, I mean, I am too, I know.
But maybe we need to learn something different to be more in touch with our own humanity rather than, I said fuck off!
I don't know.
tim pool
All right, we're going to go to your chats, my friends.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, including your neighbors.
Have you gone to your neighbor's house, knocked on their door, and told them to watch Tim cast IRL yet?
You should.
brett dasovic
I tell them to share it with their mortal enemy, and then you should fight about our show, preferably in the comments section to increase our engagement.
roseanne barr
That's good.
tim pool
That's a good one.
But we're going to read your chats, so get those Rumble Rants and Super Chats in now, and we'll read what you have to say.
Let's see what we got here.
Shane H. Wilder says, no pithy comment today.
Just want to say, go support Brett and Olivia's derpy cat, Mocha.
She ain't doing too hot.
Give Send to Go slash Mocha Recovery and have a blessed weekend, homies.
What happened?
brett dasovic
She had some imaging done and they found a cancerous legion.
Like a tumor in her stomach.
She has to go back in for imaging in a month.
We love you, Mocha.
roseanne barr
Well, God bless you, Mocha.
I hope it's all gone pretty soon.
tim pool
Well, let's see.
Hammerhead says the clown on the culture war today tried the same tactic with Tim and Russia that they did with Trump and the Steele dossier.
In both cases, they used the fact that you were made aware of the accusation as evidence.
Yes.
On the culture war, the dude basically said, I made a bunch of fact points about the U.S. involvement in Ukraine, Syria.
Russia's invasion.
And he said, why should I listen to you when you've been accused of taking money from Russia indirectly?
And then I said, if that's your attempt to refute fact-based issues in history, you're like, okay, whatever.
melody krell
No, it's Solinsky tactic.
Don't debate what you're saying.
Just go right after you.
That's how they shut you down.
tim pool
One of the issues is that half of the political faction in this country doesn't care what's true.
They care what's politically expedient.
roseanne barr
No, they don't pay any attention to anything true.
And I used to be a rabid leftist.
I mean, I've said that.
I was raised that way.
And I remember the fights we used to think up, me and my girlfriends who were rabid leftists.
And it's like, doesn't matter what they say.
Just go, you know, say, it doesn't matter what you say because you have a little dick.
And that was our preparing for debates and stuff like that.
melody krell
You just go after the person.
You never talk about the substance.
roseanne barr
No, it matters secondarily.
Yeah.
tim pool
The other thing is in the internet world, if you want attention and you want to be...
You want to be a famous political commentator?
The key is to intentionally debate stupid people.
roseanne barr
That's a good idea.
tim pool
This is the way it works.
And I mean this with no disrespect.
Ben Shapiro got really big when he went on college tours and was debating unlearned college kids.
I'm not saying he's wrong for doing it, but it is massively entertaining to conservatives when a young, you know, derpy – It's entertaining.
Charlie Kirk does this as well with TPSA.
They go to universities and he allows people to come to the microphone.
And these young people don't know what they're talking about.
Dean Withers got a lot of attention on Jubilee for gish-galloping, I think, Ben Shapiro.
And what he does now is he largely just finds random Trump supporters to debate and insult.
And like, that's what works.
If you have a real conversation with someone trying to That's not really going to do that well.
melody krell
Yeah, I know all about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
I only like to talk to people I think are smarter than me.
So it's, you know.
tim pool
Here's what you do.
roseanne barr
It is a different model.
tim pool
Start a YouTube channel where you're the intelligent conservative and your liberal friend tries to debate you, but they always just lose.
Like Harlem Globetrotters.
You know what I mean?
melody krell
Yeah.
tim pool
People love that stuff.
brett dasovic
It's not worth it if you can't make the thumbnail that says DESTROYED in big letters.
roseanne barr
Yeah, that has to be part of it.
And especially if you're a dumbass who knows nothing about history and then you pick experts to debate with and then you say, oh, who cares about international law?
That's the one that's got me now.
Who really cares about lawyers for international law?
It doesn't matter about international law.
It doesn't matter about experts of international law.
That one's got me going.
I swear to God.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We got this from That Place That I Am.
Fauci's pardon only protects him from federal charges, so a state could go after him and lock him up.
roseanne barr
Somebody's got to go after the guy.
melody krell
Well, I think Kansas is going after Pfizer for false advertising.
I think that's a case that's really going on.
Which, you know, they did say it was safe and effective over and over and over, as did $11 billion worth of bought celebrities.
roseanne barr
Somebody on Earth who has the capacity should go after Fauci.
Right?
Somebody.
tim pool
Kash Patel, lock him up?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright.
Arsonist YouTube says, Today hits my first week anniversary in the gym.
It's not about making huge changes, just one small healthy life change at a time.
Go to the gym.
Thank you, Phil.
phil labonte
Yes, go to the gym.
melody krell
Great.
unidentified
Nah.
melody krell
Change somebody's life for the better.
It's great.
unidentified
I hate people who go to the gym.
roseanne barr
No, that's good.
Good for you.
tim pool
Nicholson says there was a show about a decade ago where humans release a nanotechnology that attacked electricity and anything that uses it.
Looks like that's going to be our only salvation.
melody krell
I gotta find that.
roseanne barr
Is that Revolution?
brett dasovic
No, that was 2007.
tim pool
Have you seen Moonfall?
brett dasovic
No.
The movie?
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Yes.
roseanne barr
Really?
I gotta say that.
tim pool
It's about the moon starts falling.
melody krell
Oh, yeah?
tim pool
Yeah, but it turns out that the moon is a space base built by ancient humans to create the earth from scratch because there was a great human expansive galactic civilization that created an AI and the AI turned on the humans and started killing them.
But the AI would do one thing.
It would track biological life near electrical systems.
So if it was like a dog running around, it wouldn't do anything.
If there was a light switch, it wouldn't do anything.
But when biological life claimed close to a source of electrical...
It would destroy both.
And so what happens is the AI eventually finds the moon.
Which is a space base and starts destroying it so it starts falling to crash into the earth and then they go to the moon and save the day.
brett dasovic
He's making this movie sound so much more intelligent than it actually was.
tim pool
That's what the movie's about.
roseanne barr
Sounds good though.
tim pool
It's largely people like running from the moon crashing into the earth.
brett dasovic
It's the guy who made Independence Day.
roseanne barr
Oh really?
brett dasovic
It's Roland Emmerich.
melody krell
I've never even heard of it.
tim pool
And then like the air is getting pulled off the surface of the earth by the gravity of the moon and they're going.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
And then they run and jump right as the moon's coming and they get pulled up by the moon and they jump really far.
brett dasovic
Oh man, I'm gonna go re-watch that this weekend.
roseanne barr
Guys, movies, I don't know.
What about romance movies?
I bet you've never seen anything.
brett dasovic
They don't make those anymore.
Well, they do.
They make them for streaming and nobody watches them.
roseanne barr
Oh yeah.
unidentified
But women just watch Dateline.
roseanne barr
The murder is all I want.
melody krell
And every time I think, God, I'm rooting for the killer.
unidentified
It's such a bad move.
roseanne barr
I just want him to get caught.
I love when they get caught.
melody krell
I look at the other way.
I say, why would they say that?
They're going to get caught.
roseanne barr
On that subject, y 'all, I just saw the best.
What's his name?
Bundy.
Oh my God, I thought I'd watch everything about Ted Bundy, but no, this was a new one.
It's so scary freaky because Bundy was always thinking of himself as smarter than the FBI and all the cops.
And that was his, you know, thing that would make him feel so smart was that he was like, I'm smarter than the police.
And then this one guy, the guy that finally got him, Got him for his teeth, his bites.
phil labonte
Oh, yes.
roseanne barr
And the guy was trying to get him and gave him apples when he was in the death row there.
And somebody goes, how come I never get any fruit?
And Bundy stops cold eating the apple and he's like, they're trying to get me with my bite marks.
Anyway, it was just so interesting how finally he went, oh my God, I'm not as smart as this guy.
And just like they said, he went nuts and tore his cell all up.
phil labonte
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
roseanne barr
It's like somebody is finally smarter than me.
And I was like, that's damn good.
Because that's a disease of that.
I like when they get caught.
I like how they do all this stuff for a really long time and they think they're smarter and nobody's going to get them.
And then something real little brings them down.
tim pool
This is what Trump needs to win elections, right?
I mean, he's not going to run again, but I'm like, he just needed to spend money on a true crime series about him.
Like when the court case was happening and like the fraud trial, he should have paid for a true crime series.
That just paints him in a slightly better light and results in people being like, he's innocent.
unidentified
They're lying.
roseanne barr
Maybe they'll do that after.
tim pool
He would come out and be like, they're lying.
unidentified
They're crooks.
tim pool
I didn't do it.
roseanne barr
He tried to do that, but they put the slap down.
He couldn't even say that.
Remember?
They put the gag order on him.
melody krell
He would have done press conferences every single day if he could.
roseanne barr
Yeah, but they put the gag order.
He couldn't even say these are some lying folks.
tim pool
One true crime series.
You know how they do those true crime series where it's like the person was falsely convicted?
Yeah, that's terrible.
roseanne barr
I like those two.
tim pool
But it's like there was that one, was it making a murder or whatever?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
Where they tried painting it like the guy was innocent, but then the prosecutor came out and said like, actually he's probably guilty and here's the evidence, here's why.
These people are making a show.
They admit they're making a show.
They don't care if it's true or not.
Trump just needs to make a docuseries about the crimes that omits anything that makes him look bad and make the prosecutors look bad, and then all the women are going to be like, he's innocent.
Let him go.
roseanne barr
Well, I think he will do that by the end of his second term.
I think there will be great documentaries on what they did to him.
Look at everything available.
brett dasovic
They're making another, like, actual Hollywood movie about him now that's supposed to paint him in a more favorable light.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Remember, um, Mueller, was it Mueller she wrote?
phil labonte
Mueller she wrote, yeah.
tim pool
They basically made a true crime show that was anti-Trump and women were addicted to it.
phil labonte
Yep.
melody krell
Are you serious?
What, covering the Mueller investigation?
tim pool
And then once that ended, they just kept going with hating Trump.
melody krell
Oh, God.
phil labonte
It's still an X account.
melody krell
But how about these people that feel so...
I mean, I feel bad for these people that watch The View and all these shows that all they talk about...
It's such toxic hate that affects your psychology or...
Like these people, if you ever speak to a true Trump hater, it's very sad.
tim pool
My favorite is just trolling people.
melody krell
Me too.
tim pool
I tweeted, Trump can't do anything wrong because Trump is the nexus of morality.
That means that whether it is good is simply whether or not Trump has done it.
If he does it, it is good.
And all these anti-Trump people are like, oh my god, you're in a cult.
I can't believe you'll say that.
melody krell
Right, I mean they lose their minds.
roseanne barr
I love it.
I love to troll them.
tim pool
And then I'm just like sitting on my couch with my wife.
Texting and she's looking at me rolling her eyes and I'm like, look, look, I'm sending it.
roseanne barr
That's my whole life too.
tim pool
It's great.
melody krell
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I feel bad for the people who are smart enough to get it because they're trying to tell people like, stop, stop it.
He's screwing with you.
Why don't you understand?
And they're like, you're so dumb.
melody krell
Yeah, but these liberal women between like 40 and 60, they are filled, they're so easily triggered when it comes to Trump.
roseanne barr
But they don't really know why.
melody krell
I know, that's what I'm saying.
roseanne barr
Did you see my, where I championed Greta, what's her ass?
Thunberg.
I said, let Greta in.
I'm trying to...
melody krell
Yeah, she's promoting having a Greta go into Gaza.
tim pool
I love how Greta Thunberg is like, the climate is changing and people will die, so now we have to go to Gaza!
And it's just like, what?
phil labonte
Idiots.
roseanne barr
I wish she would go in there and they'd be led around and she could help them all.
brett dasovic
You have to have a certain understanding of intersectional politics to understand what the climate has to do with Gaza.
Like, that's something that, like, it's an idea so stupid only a university professor could come up with it.
roseanne barr
She's AI, I think.
I think she's a complete AI invention of her parents.
melody krell
Or transhuman.
roseanne barr
Well, her parents are libtards.
She is a libtard.
I mean a robot.
tim pool
A robot.
roseanne barr
Same thing.
tim pool
All right, we'll grab some more.
We'll grab some more chats.
What do we have here?
Quantum Strange Quark says, remember on this day, June 6, 1944, how many soldiers died in the beaches of Normandy to protect our freedom?
melody krell
I'm not sure they were protecting our freedom as much as...
I don't know.
I looked back at World War II and I think we're going to...
roseanne barr
I think that the Germans lost, but the Nazis won, and I have to agree with her.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the Germans— They came to America, and they took over the whole bush fucking— I mean, like, yeah, back in the early days when Nazism was actually normal in the United States.
And then after World War II started, they all started backing away, being like, oh, you know, we don't want to be associated with that.
But it's not like people just change their worldviews overnight.
melody krell
No.
tim pool
Yeah, Prescott Bush.
roseanne barr
You know who else was in that family?
The Rothschild banking family of all those criminals.
Did you know that Adam, what's his name?
Bug-eyed guy, Adam Schiff.
Did you know it's the Rothschild-Schiff family?
A lot of people don't know that.
melody krell
They're the same family.
roseanne barr
I thought it was Rothschild-Schiff.
melody krell
I wouldn't be surprised.
roseanne barr
That's one family.
Schiff is one of them.
tim pool
I hope that Adam Schiff grew up watching Roseanne so that he can see you say this and just like a single tear comes down his face.
roseanne barr
I've already called him and what's her AOC?
They got the Realtor eyes.
The big, bug-eyed realtor look.
You know, you see them on those bus stops where they're like, Hi, need a house?
Call this number.
They look like that, you know.
I don't know.
tim pool
Alright, let's go.
Punk Rock Fox says, Statute of Limitations only starts when you discover the crime and the suspect.
If you just discover the crime, it hasn't started yet.
Indeed.
roseanne barr
Is that true?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Oh.
melody krell
Right, when you committed the crime.
tim pool
Only upon awareness of it.
roseanne barr
Oh, good.
tim pool
Yeah.
melody krell
Well, there's a lot of crimes that could still be found out, then.
roseanne barr
Good.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Let's see.
Kelly McWright says, Sorry, I can't believe Cash scapegoat the Epstein case and now throws his outstatement of already deleting his devices.
Either Pam, Cash, or both are lying about the 10,000 hours of child porn, and the names are too big to charge.
phil labonte
Perhaps.
I don't have the sense that they're actually lying.
I know that people are going to be bummed about that, but...
tim pool
You lose.
because who's better than them?
Like if you release this, they'll come after your family or if you release this, it'll destroy the US economy.
melody krell
But I largely just think – But how about, I mean, just to me, I just don't understand not going after the white-collar crimes then that are connected to these.
tim pool
Well, I think they probably are.
melody krell
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Well, maybe it's just not over yet.
melody krell
It's not.
And they didn't even have enough time yet, and I trust them both very much.
But what I believe is that the white-collar crimes are going to be the easiest way to go after most of these people.
And then from that point.
Also, I want, like, when it comes to, like, the auto pen, I think we need to know that that doctor that looked at Fauci and all the people that used it, I mean, there's so many layers of what's going on, and then the whole cover-up all the way back to 2016.
So I think they have a lot on their plates, and they're trying to prioritize in a very hostile environment.
tim pool
I agree.
I agree.
All right, what have we here?
True Binis says, what if our government doesn't really control America?
roseanne barr
Well, there's a big bingo.
melody krell
I think the CIA.
tim pool
I think Ukraine controls America.
roseanne barr
You do?
tim pool
Yeah.
Zelensky flew here and went to Congress.
they waved his flag and then gave him hundreds of billions of dollars yeah no i think i It's always been the Ukrainians.
roseanne barr
Really?
melody krell
Yeah.
Global public-private partnership.
roseanne barr
I think it's Chinese.
I think it's the Chinese control everything.
tim pool
I think it's a combination of various foreign interests.
I think the Saudis have a lot of control because of the petrodollar.
China is the biggest spender on foreign lobbying in the United States, like $460 million, something per year.
melody krell
Yeah.
I mean, I still think that the entire State Department and the CIA and all of them have been involved in the international foreign policy above the government for decades.
I mean, they function with USAID, dark money, and all that.
roseanne barr
It's just Satan.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree.
roseanne barr
Let's just be real real.
Satan is in charge of everything.
And maybe it's almost over.
tim pool
Smeet Knight says, Roseanne, I grew up with you on the television.
I'm grateful for all the laughs.
My family and I, who watch you every day, want to say we love you.
roseanne barr
Oh, I love you back.
Thank you, honey.
melody krell
Come see her movie.
tim pool
I do got to say, it was like the cringiest thing when they brought the show back without you.
That makes no sense.
unidentified
Oh, it's so gross.
melody krell
And I killed her with a drug overdose.
roseanne barr
You killed me, too.
I thought, oh Christ, they're killing me too.
melody krell
And you have all the characters outside like...
And you're like, I know.
roseanne barr
I was like, oh, my God.
I can't believe these guys are doing that.
But they did it.
melody krell
It's a bunch of losers.
phil labonte
Well, it sucks, but it's her own dumb fall.
unidentified
Right, right.
melody krell
That's how it was.
roseanne barr
Let's move on.
Couldn't they have done it in a better way like I could have?
I thought of the many other ways they could have given me some dignity.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's the problem.
They could have done that, but they chose not to.
tim pool
I mean, I've got to be honest.
unidentified
They could have not fired you and just kept going with the Roseanne.
tim pool
To be fair, if they did make the story that you were drunk driving and ran over Girl Scouts and went to prison, I would be like, it is bad they fired you, but that is pretty funny.
roseanne barr
Yeah, it could have been funnier.
melody krell
Oh, no, they didn't make it funny at all.
unidentified
They could have.
tim pool
No, it was just weird.
melody krell
Right.
tim pool
It's like one day they're like, by the way, she does drugs and she's dead.
melody krell
Right.
And then didn't they ask you to come back?
roseanne barr
Oh yeah, they asked me to come back at the end as a ghost.
melody krell
It's true.
roseanne barr
I said, wait a minute, you asked me to come back to the show you stole from me and killed me on and then you asked me to come back and play myself as a ghost.
I really can't do that.
tim pool
For like a special guest appearance or what?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Like for the finale?
roseanne barr
No, to play a ghost.
melody krell
Oh, because it was losing ratings.
unidentified
To play a ghost all the time.
brett dasovic
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
What?
melody krell
Yeah, recurring.
unidentified
That's how – When was that?
roseanne barr
That was like the second season.
tim pool
Are they still doing the show?
unidentified
It got canceled last year.
tim pool
Okay, you should...
roseanne barr
Oh, someone in the family has to die.
Darlene.
Bye-bye, Darlene.
phil labonte
See ya.
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
I was just like, I can't believe it.
unidentified
It was a little odd.
tim pool
When that AI thing comes out, I'm making that show.
roseanne barr
Okay, you've got my blessing on it.
unidentified
Just take her to one of the studios.
tim pool
And they're all gathered around and be like, we need to bring back Roseanne.
And the necromancer's like, but one of you has to die.
And they all just look at Darlene and they're like, okay.
phil labonte
Goodbye!
Fine.
tim pool
Wow, I can't believe that.
They're like, we shouldn't have fired you to show such that.
melody krell
Yeah, we need you to come back as a ghost.
roseanne barr
As a guest star at one-tenth your peg when we fired you.
unidentified
Wow.
roseanne barr
Yeah, but whatever.
God fixes stuff up.
He better fix this AI quandary, Lord.
tim pool
So was it going to be like you would actually be walking around the house talking to them as a ghost?
roseanne barr
I guess that's what they had in their minds.
tim pool
Isn't it kind of weird to turn Roseanne from like a family-based sitcom into a supernatural comedy drama?
roseanne barr
Yeah, they like this English show where there was a ghost lady.
Some show in England where a ghost lives in a house.
tim pool
Yeah, ghosts.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
It was called Ghosts?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
I was like, the only way I'll come back as a departed dead person is if I'm a prophet.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
You know, I'm like, was that?
tim pool
We were wrong.
unidentified
Oh yeah, she just took off to Mexico.
tim pool
We just never checked.
roseanne barr
You know, I'm doing a new show and I'll give you one little thing.
I have a new show and there's a bar mitzvah in it.
And I'm going to...
Roseanne Connor is making a...
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Well, that'll be hard.
melody krell
She must have made it through.
The drug overdose.
roseanne barr
She explains what really happened.
melody krell
Oh, I love it.
roseanne barr
It's kind of funny.
melody krell
It's going to be great.
tim pool
That's insane.
I can't believe that.
roseanne barr
Well, it's Hollywood.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, what do we got here?
roseanne barr
Maybe I could make a thin Roseanne.
Well, you are a thin Roseanne.
Well, I mean, young and thin and gorgeous for the AI Roseanne.
tim pool
Roseanne's long-lost evil twin.
roseanne barr
Or her clone.
unidentified
Yes!
brett dasovic
We're getting into soap opera territory.
unidentified
Right.
melody krell
Why not?
tim pool
They wanted to put a ghost on the show.
brett dasovic
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm here for it.
phil labonte
Very Falcon Crest ideas here.
melody krell
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
It really does feel like Hollywood.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
They keep remaking the same stuff.
melody krell
Terrible.
tim pool
And they're just like, well, the ratings are down.
What do we do?
Roseanne's a ghost.
brett dasovic
Ghost Roseanne.
unidentified
Ghost Roseanne.
brett dasovic
I mean, I think that's because there's no more Coke in the writing room or the executive room anymore.
See, back when the executives were snorting immense lines of cocaine, the movies were awesome.
Now everything's PC.
Everybody's living healthy.
They're drinking.
tim pool
The execs are all stressed out.
brett dasovic
They're all stressed out.
They're not doing a bunch of drugs and taking script ideas.
tim pool
Is that why the 70s and 80s were so great?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yes.
roseanne barr
Robocop.
It's the comics.
brett dasovic
Robocop.
phil labonte
Awesome.
roseanne barr
The comedians were in there taking coke.
melody krell
A lot of those comedies.
roseanne barr
I saw the script that Sam Kennison turned in with all these razor cuts on it.
Booze stains.
That was for Rodney Dangerfield back to school or one of them.
I had these coke lines and shit.
brett dasovic
What was it?
They were just saying that the Popeye movie was the most coked-up movie set they'd ever seen.
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
Was it Robin Williams?
brett dasovic
Yeah, it was Robin Williams.
They said, like, cocaine was being transported into the movie in film reels.
melody krell
I can imagine that.
roseanne barr
They were all on it.
Saturday Night Live was funny back then when they had coke.
brett dasovic
It's just not the same anymore.
tim pool
Kept up on goofballs.
brett dasovic
Now the kids are...
roseanne barr
I bet.
tim pool
Because early Simpsons was like, season two through nine was like a masterpiece.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
For like each season.
And now, I don't know, like Abe's gay or something.
roseanne barr
I don't watch it anymore because I never know when the fuck it's on or what channel.
I can't follow TV.
I can't turn it on.
I gotta get my four-year-old granddaughter to turn the TV on for me now.
tim pool
Because there's no buttons anymore.
Now it's like you have to look at a certain part of the TV and wink at it and tell it what to do.
phil labonte
You can buy a TV that you can talk to now, I think.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
We have it.
We don't use it anymore.
We had one at the last studio, and I think people kind of just were...
melody krell
It's watching you too, though, right?
roseanne barr
Yeah, they're all spying on you.
All your stuff is spying on you.
brett dasovic
The company's like, we're not collecting your data.
roseanne barr
What is it?
The nest?
The thing that does your temperatures?
My son said, that does spy on you, Mom.
melody krell
Yeah, and Alexa got caught.
tim pool
You know what would be cool, though, if they just had big red evil eyes on all the devices?
roseanne barr
That's what they should have.
tim pool
That moves and tracks you as you move around?
melody krell
That would be nicer.
phil labonte
Just a reminder.
melody krell
You just have to accept it.
phil labonte
I'm watching you.
melody krell
Exactly.
tim pool
So I will say this.
People didn't seem to understand that when you bought those devices, I'm not going to say their name.
You would say its name to turn it on, and then you would tell it what to do.
How do you think it knows when you say its name?
It's always on.
roseanne barr
That's true.
tim pool
And it sends your data to a company that translates the sound into text and then sends the command to the device.
melody krell
I think they allowed this, though.
There was a whole bunch of things that came around in 2013, 2014, where the tech companies meshed with all the different agencies, FBI.
There was some kind of thing.
So I think that this has been going on a very long time.
roseanne barr
Think of the thought behind it, though.
How are we going to spy on all these people and everything they do, right?
melody krell
It's technocracy.
tim pool
We've got phones now.
melody krell
Full surveillance.
tim pool
Well, my friends, it has been – it was very fun.
I appreciate having you guys.
melody krell
It's very fun.
tim pool
Everybody else, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
We'll have clips up throughout the weekend.
We're back Monday, of course, and tomorrow is going to be real fun.
Mel and Rosanne, do you want to shout anything out?
melody krell
Well, you can check out my show.
I am on Rumble, The Mel K Show.
And I also want everyone to check out Roseanne's documentary.
It's called Roseanne Bar is America.
It'll be everywhere on the 10th of June.
And I hope people love it.
And I'm excited for people to hear your story, finally.
It's very, very, very eye-opening about not just everything that happened to Roseanne, but Hollywood, too.
roseanne barr
And the press, the...
But I love y 'all and, you know, they're never gonna make me shut up.
Fuck them.
Thank you for having us.
melody krell
Thank you for having us.
phil labonte
I love you.
roseanne barr
It was great.
melody krell
Thank you so much.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and Twix at Brett Dasvick on both of those platforms.
But what you should do is watch Pop Culture Crisis.
We are live Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which is noon Pacific, YouTube and Rumble.
See you there.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram.
The band is all that remains.
The new record is called Anti-Fragile.
You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer.
Don't forget, the left lane is for crying.
tim pool
We will see you all with clips throughout the weekend, and then we're back Monday.
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