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tim pool
The Marines have been deployed to Los Angeles.
It's happened.
Now, you may be wondering, hold on a minute, they've actually deployed, yep, 700 Marines to the LA riots, which are ongoing right now.
As of right now, it's about 5 p.m. in Los Angeles, if you're watching this live.
Not a whole lot is going on until it gets a little bit darker, but this is the beginning of something big.
Some people think this may be We don't know for sure, but there's a lot to this story.
The Mexican president came out and said that these people, these Mexican illegal immigrants, are not criminals and that everyone should stand with them while the U.S. government is trying to expel non-citizens.
I'd call that an invasion.
So we're going to break all of this down for you, but what I will say off the bat is, Insurrection Act?
Well, I don't believe the Marines have been dispatched into the riots just yet.
Trump is going to have to invoke the Insurrection Act if he wants to send these troops on the ground.
But considering the Mexican president told people in this country to stand with her citizens who are here illegally in defiance of the federal government and the National Guard, I'd say, oh boy.
That was a dumb thing to do.
She does appear to be walking this back.
Trump says Tom Homan should arrest Gavin Newsom.
It was really funny, actually.
And we're going to break all this down for you.
We've got an expected mass protest next weekend as people are gearing up for riot season.
And, oh boy.
There's also some leaked audio from the DNC where apparently one of these guys was crying, which is going to be funny.
We'll talk about all that.
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It's celebrating Donald Trump's first 100 days.
Michael Malice, why don't you tell us about this book?
michael malice
I'm really excited to launch this book right here live on TimCast.
I think one of the best things of Trump's presidency and his campaign, which we can all agree on and is going to be a lasting thing, is that he tore down the idea of gatekeepers.
Because four years ago, if 60 Minutes wants both the candidates to sit down, they've got the clout.
And in 2024, the script was flipped, where Rogan's like, Kamala Harris, if you want to talk to me, you're getting your ass to Austin.
I'm not getting a flight to wherever you are and giving you half an hour on your terms.
So I'm launching this book today.
It's a history of Trump's first hundred days.
There's a different chapter for each of the days, so it's 100 short chapters.
But my point with this is I'm doing this to screw over the corporate publishers.
Because if I'm doing a book with Simon Schuster or Penguin, it's going to come out in August or November.
The thing that we can do now is get a book to market a lot faster than anybody else.
And I want to see if we can get it live to make history, get it to number one on Amazon during the show.
We'll have updates throughout the show.
But please go buy the book.
I promise you'll enjoy it if you're a Trump fan.
tim pool
You've got 100 chapters.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
And each chapter is explaining what he did on that day?
michael malice
Yes, or his administration, right.
tim pool
That's great.
michael malice
And why it was awesome.
tim pool
And why it was awesome?
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
michael malice
And in all seriousness, we had a little bit of a hiccup this past week with the Elon stuff.
I think it's easy to forget how...
I think he's the first president in my lifetime, I think we all agree with this, who did better than we expected when he came in.
So when you have it all in one thing, in one book, you realize, wait a minute, there was win after win after win, and we forget a lot of this stuff already.
When I was editing it, I'm like, holy shit, there's a lot of good stuff in here.
tim pool
Right on.
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Of course, Michael Malice is here.
michael malice
Thank you so much for having me back.
I'm excited.
I really hope we make history tonight and get me number one on Amazon.
And this is going to be a big shot across the bow for people back in New York in the publishing scene.
That their days are over.
tim pool
Is it wrong to say it will trigger the libs as well?
michael malice
This is the kind of book where if you gave it to your crap-lib mom, it'll make her really, really upset because you can't argue with a lot of the stuff he did.
He did the right thing a lot of the time, and a lot of it's also really funny.
tim pool
He's a funny guy.
michael malice
We forget this.
tim pool
Right now, when he called for Newsom to be arrested, it's a funny clip.
He's such a funny guy.
Anyway, anyway.
michael malice
Well, what about when he said today is Gulf of America Day.
Everyone should celebrate in appropriate ways.
Like, what does that mean?
Like, take a bath?
But we forget this stuff.
That's why the book's all about it.
tim pool
Well, we got Shane hanging out.
shane cashman
What's up?
Congrats on the book.
michael malice
Thank you so much.
shane cashman
I love seeing people take on the corporate publishing world.
It's a snake pit.
It's a terrible industry.
I know you know.
Yeah, I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live.
We go live at 10 o 'clock, Monday through Thursday, right after this show.
Tonight, we're going to talk about something that might surprise you.
The government has been lying to you.
michael malice
Get out of here, Shane!
shane cashman
I know.
I know.
People watching are surprised.
But the Pentagon, we just found out through some reports that they've been lying about UFOs to cover up military tech.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
shane cashman
Like Lockheed Skunk Works stuff.
So we're going to talk about that.
And thank you for the raids and all that stuff.
It was a really awesome first week.
I appreciate it.
michael malice
And let me add something to your story.
My dad, my grandfather, was an air traffic controller in the Soviet Union.
And he said we saw UFOs all the time.
So this is not just crazy, random, drunk people like they try to make it out to be.
These are high-quality professionals who look at these screens all day and they know when something's up.
tim pool
And who wouldn't trust a communist?
michael malice
Well, he wasn't a communist.
How dare you?
unidentified
I'm serious.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
michael malice
You don't call my grandfather a communist.
unidentified
All right, take it back.
phil labonte
He's a Soviet.
shane cashman
Michael's about to look.
michael malice
No, no, no.
Just my grandfather.
You don't call him a communist.
Rest in peace, yes.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains.
My name's Phil Labonte.
I'm Lee Singer.
I got so wrapped up in the communist talk.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's a story from the post-millennial.
Breaking 700 Marines deployed to Los Angeles in support role amid crackdown on anti-ice riots.
They report U.S. Northern Command announced on Monday that 700 Marines are being activated to protect federal personnel property and property in L.A. As the California city has experienced violent anti-immigrant and Immigration Customs Enforcement riots.
So we actually have this posted by Disclosed TV.
It's a press release.
U.S. NORTHCOM statement on additional military personnel.
They say U.S. Northern Command has activated the Marine Infantry Battalion that was placed in an alert status over the weekend.
Approximately 700 Marines with 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Division will seamlessly integrate with the Title 10 forces under Task Force 51. who are protecting federal personnel and federal property in the greater Los Angeles area.
The activation of the Marines is intended to provide Task Force 51 with adequate numbers of forces to provide continuous coverage of the area in support of the lead federal agency.
Task Force 51 is U.S. Army North's Contingency Command Post, which provides a rapidly deployable capability to partner with civil authorities and DOD entities in response to a homeland defense and homeland security operations.
It is commanded by Major General Scott M. Sherman.
Task Force 51 is comprised of approximately 2,100 National Guard soldiers in a Title X status and 700 active duty Marines.
Task Force 51 forces have been trained in de-escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the use of force.
Now, I will stress for those that are watching live, while all of this news is breaking, the riots are ongoing.
However, right now it's...
It's daylight, so largely people are just standing around.
But I will stress, over the weekend, they were torching Waymo's.
Waymo is pulling out.
michael malice
Were they really?
tim pool
Yeah, they were stopping the Waymo's.
michael malice
Why Waymo's?
phil labonte
Why not?
tim pool
Why anything?
michael malice
Well, no, I mean, are they targeting Waymo?
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
Because they're easy targets.
michael malice
Is it that a lot of these guys are doing, like, Lyft and Uber, and Waymo's putting them out of business?
tim pool
No, they can just call a Waymo, and it pulls up.
Free car to destroy.
michael malice
Oh, okay.
I'm sorry.
I was giving you a chance.
tim pool
They summon it.
It drives up, and you stand in front of it.
It won't move.
michael malice
You know, Waymo saved my life, but we'll get to that later.
tim pool
Wow.
So, I will stress this.
This is important.
These Marines are being deployed to federal facilities to protect them.
I think that bypasses posse comitatus because they're not actively engaging in law enforcement.
They're just personnel dispatched to a federal facility.
If Trump or Hegseth or anybody is to send them to the streets, I think they'd have to invoke the Insurrection Act.
Or we also have another story we'll get into a little bit with the Mexican president saying that the people targeted by ICE are not criminals and that people, just people in general, should stand with Mexican nationals in the United States.
I'd say it's a formal – or I should say it's a – I think it's a declaration of invasion.
But if a foreign president says, my citizens in your country should be protected and are allowed to be there.
That's declaring that you're – like you're telling your people to do this.
If that is the case, that foreign nationals are being advocated for by the foreign nationals' government, and many of these people are flying Mexican flags, Trump's going to say this is not local law enforcement.
Marines are being dispatched because an invasive force is in our country, and that he would not need the Insurrection Act for.
michael malice
Am I the only person here who is an immigrant, by the way?
phil labonte
Yes.
michael malice
Where are you from?
shane cashman
Surge.
tim pool
Yeah, I was going to say.
He's African American.
You can't tell?
michael malice
It bothers me when people are immigrants and they're not waving the American flag.
In my sheath ad, I'm draped with the American flag.
It's kind of ironic.
It's like a boxing thing, but it's also not ironic.
Like, you're here.
This place gave you a home.
The thing that really kind of makes me laugh about all the Jew hate is that they're like America first, except for these college students who hate Israel.
It's like, no, no, no.
You're here.
When I was in North Korea, you better believe I was on my best behavior and mind my P's and Q's and acting appropriately.
So if this country has – You don't have to worry about being decapitated by a gang.
A little bit of gratitude would go a long way.
And it's kind of scary that saying this is like some kind of crazy far-right point of view.
phil labonte
This is the first time that I've ever seen or that I can recall seeing these types of protests about immigration or illegal immigration where there were people that were openly flying the Mexican flag.
Now, maybe it has happened and I'm unaware of it.
But this to...
unidentified
Do you know what it is?
michael malice
It's because it trickles down from the universities where loving the flag and loving America is something to be embarrassed about.
So what happens is these kids go to college, some of them, they go back to their communities, they teach them these leftist values, and then it ends up with people on Facebook.
I've seen this.
They go to Mount Rushmore.
They're giving the finger to those four presidents.
It's like, what do you do?
tim pool
I was talking with Julio Rosas, who's on the ground, and he was breaking it down like, look, he's an American.
He was born in America.
I think he's got relatives, of course, that are Mexican.
And he said a lot of these people, they're raised by parents who are legal immigrants.
They're given citizenship status, so they can't be deported, but their culture and their worldview is Mexico.
It's Mexican.
Yes.
These people have no allegiance to America.
They vacation in Mexico.
Their relatives are in Mexico.
They send money to Mexico.
But because they were born here, they get a protected status as citizens, and then they act to subvert and defy the will of the American nation.
phil labonte
That was one of the things that was the most objectionable about what Scheinbaum said.
She said that she had a problem with taxing on remittances, which is like—I mean, look, if you're going to say, look, you know— Mexicans that are in America, there's a special history, and you should blah blah blah.
That's fine.
Totally understand that.
And I might even be sympathetic to the argument, even though I would still be like, look, if they're here illegally, they gotta go.
But the fact of the matter is, she was talking about remittances where it's like, look, this is an economic statement on her part.
And it's absolutely, like in my opinion, Americans should look at that and be offended.
That she would have the audacity to say that you should allow Mexican nationals to...
international diplomacy or whatever?
shane cashman
Maybe she should focus on overseeing her country that had 30 assassinations of presidential candidates just last year.
phil labonte
Is that true?
Yeah, I think at least 30. Well, they weren't all president.
shane cashman
Presidential candidates.
No, they were like other politicians.
phil labonte
But like 26 or something like that.
michael malice
I don't know, man.
Now I'm kind of on their side.
You're kind of making me feel like a Mexican now.
tim pool
So with these riots, Democrats, a Democrat governor coalition has come out and said, Trump, back off.
Don't do this.
My argument is, and I say I'm correct.
Of course.
Democrats are, well, I mean.
Argue with me.
michael malice
In my opinion, aka the Holy Scriptures.
tim pool
Look, there are some instances where I would say I could be wrong about this.
No, I'm saying this is just my view as breaking everything down, but I think it's spot on.
Democrats are intentionally standing down.
The rioters are effectively corsairs for the Democrats and the California government.
The government can't dispatch police to actively defy ICE, but they can dispatch rioters and allow them to wreak havoc preventing mass deportations because Democrats get an estimated 10 to 25 extra congressional votes and votes for the president by having illegal immigrants in sanctuary states.
So when Donald Trump says we are going to mass deport everybody, the Democratic machine, especially California with 52 congressional seats and EC votes, is saying, how do we stop Trump?
We can't send law enforcement to stop him.
That would be a crisis, a serious one.
We can incite and aggravate riots intentionally and then stand down and let them obstruct Trump, effectively acting as privateers.
michael malice
Well, there's a couple other things.
First of all, 2020 worked very well for them.
When you had all this mass unrest throughout the country, it led to President Biden being in the White House.
And I think what they don't realize is they're not quick on the uptake.
Right?
And in 2020, we all remember those times.
If President Trump had sent in the troops, the media was waiting to call him an authoritarian strongman Hitler.
They were waiting.
We all saw it.
And I don't know who got to him, but he was smart enough to sit in his hands and say, I'll send the troops if you ask, but I'm not doing it otherwise, which was a smart move.
This is not 2020 anymore.
When Trump sends in these troops for things like this, everyone or the huge majority of the other side, I mean, the way it was in 2020, are going to be on Trump's side.
It's not going to be viewed as some kind of insane Mussolini power grab.
It'll be like, it's ridiculous that you're an illegal immigrant and you have the right to ride in the streets and cause unrest.
tim pool
Look at Abrago Garcia.
He's back.
He's back in the United States.
Standing trial for him in trafficking in Nashville.
shane cashman
I thought he was writing.
tim pool
Nope, they brought him to Nashville because he's charged with trafficking thousands of individuals.
And Trump was like, it wasn't my decision.
I don't think he should have come back.
michael malice
I agree.
tim pool
But the DOJ wanted to bring him back and they're wasting our money.
michael malice
I don't think they wanted to.
I think they were forced to, don't you?
tim pool
Well, the argument was Trump could pressure El Salvador into releasing him.
but he's under no obligation to engage in foreign policy of that nature.
So while the Supreme Court said they should, he should facilitate the return, he said no.
He ultimately said the DOJ made the decision to bring him back, but he was charged with human trafficking.
So I think the political play there is completely defang the left's argument now because while they're calling it a victory, the response is going to be a human trafficker on trial for human trafficking was defended and protected by Democrats.
This is a manipulation that we see quite a bit.
The alt-right campaign from 2016 is a really good example of this.
The media had been referring to anybody who supported Trump as alt-right, using the phrase alt-right as a reference to a new right, a kind of anti-establishment right-wing cohort.
michael malice
I want you to write a book about that.
tim pool
And then a year later...
The AP issued a style guide.
So that meant people like Jack Posobiec or anybody who had said, I agree with this new alternative to the right.
You could go back in time and apply their statement to the new definition and say, aha, they admitted to being white supremacists.
That's the game that's being played effectively by the Trump administration.
Abrego Garcia gets deported.
The Democrats defend him all crazy.
Then you bring him back with human trafficking charges and say, remember when they were defending this guy who was charged with human trafficking?
michael malice
Well, here's the other good play, because there are a lot of people in conservative circles that I don't agree with, and I doubt most people in this room don't agree with as well, the idea that Trump should just say, screw you to the courts.
And that is a very slippery slope, because in four years, or eight years, or 12 years from now, there's going to be a Democratic president, and you do not want that Democratic president to be like, yeah, I don't care what the Supreme Court says, we're going to have digital ID, or we're going to have some kind of lockdown, so on and so forth.
So for Trump to reach a point where he's going to say screw you to the Supreme Court, he should really play that card when he needs to, if he needs to, God hoping he doesn't, and not over just one dude.
So when we saw this in New York Times and all these others foaming at the mouth, Trump hates the legal system, this is a banana republic.
He's like, oh, no, no, you want him?
You got him.
He's just going to jail.
But I'm listening to the Supreme Court.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story with us from Live Mint.
Quote, migrants are not criminals.
Mexico President Claudia Scheinbaum criticizes L.A. raids.
This is insane.
This is the escalation.
This is what formalizes an invasion.
michael malice
Can I just say one more thing?
Sure, but deportation is not a jail sentence.
phil labonte
Yeah.
michael malice
You're not treated like criminals.
You're not putting them in jail.
tim pool
But this is why I'm saying it's an invasion.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
We have seen this debate from the left and the right about whether or not people are legally entering from the southern border as an invasion.
And you've got these prominent liberals saying, invasion means a foreign military sending people blah, blah, blah.
And the right has argued they are marching with their flags.
Well, now we have it.
The president of Mexico has said, quote, Mexicans living in the United States are good men and women, honest people who went to the United States to seek a better life for themselves and to support their families.
They are not criminals.
They are good men and women, she said in a speech.
She also stated that multiple Mexicans were arrested in the ongoing immigration raids conducted by ICE officials.
By her, currently stands around 35. During her moving speech, she asked everyone to stand by the arrested Mexicans.
So let me stress this.
She is acknowledging they are not American citizens.
They are her citizens, Mexican nationals, illegally in this country, arrested by our law enforcement, and she's calling on people to defend them.
So when they're out in the streets flying Mexican flags with the support of the Mexican president, who's calling on more people who are actively rioting against our National Guard and law enforcement, Trump should say, that's it.
That is a formal declaration, and it's enough.
Dispatch the Marines and start deporting and getting everybody out.
michael malice
I think I disagree with you slightly.
I think before he goes to 10, he should let this play out.
Because it was that Rahm Emanuel said, never let a good crisis go to waste.
These optics are playing very well for the Republicans.
Because the big swing demographic in elections is Karen.
It's white suburban women.
And white suburban women do not like rioting.
They do not like people flying foreign flags.
They just worry about the gross issues.
tim pool
Agreed.
Let me clarify.
The next direct granular move Trump makes is coming out and saying, I am shocked to hear the president of Mexico calling for an escalation of riots in this country to protect her citizens who are illegally in our country.
michael malice
That's the move, yes.
tim pool
That's the move.
Right, when he needs to use the military to remove criminal illegal aliens in this country— She just gave him the pretext under the Alien Enemies Act.
There was a debate.
So the debate for the Alien Enemies Act is that the law requires that a foreign government or collective force is invading your country.
Two arguments were used.
One, that these narco gangs and cartels are effectively organized bodies that constitute declaration under the Alien Enemies Act.
But many argued they have to be...
In collusion with a nation state.
The argument was Venezuela is intentionally sending Trande Aragua to the United States.
Ergo, we can target them under this law because it is a semi-official act of government.
Now you have the Mexican president who's made the statement.
These are good people seeking a better life, and I call on people to stand with them.
Now Trump can say Mexico has effectively sanctioned the illegal immigration into our country.
michael malice
I talk about that insurrection act in the book because maybe I'm too much of an anarchist, but to me it makes – I don't really see the distinction in any sense between – yeah, like when Russia is sending over troops to America – or Japan is bombing Pearl Harbor and a private gang, which is running a huge section of Venezuela, is sending its members to infiltrate and seize American land and take it under its thumb.
I mean it's effectively the same.
unidentified
thing.
tim pool
It's like the argument with Ukraine right now, where all the liberals always say, American, the U.S. isn't there.
And I said, you're right.
The U.S. veterans who are operating as private military contractors in the volunteer force who receive cash from Ukraine, which is actually cash from the United States, and then the United States sends special forces down and tells a Ukrainian soldier, here's a missile, press that button, and you'll blow up that ship from Russia.
And they say...
That's not the United States.
No one buys that.
We're not kindergartners.
You think Russia's sitting there being like, drat, America's not doing it because someone else pressed the button.
michael malice
I mean, this is the thing with World War II.
You know, all these things.
It's like, at what point has aid become, you're actually a member of the opposing side?
shane cashman
Wasn't the Insurrection Act started because of Mexico, too?
michael malice
Was it?
It was 1798, wasn't it?
shane cashman
Well, the 1807 one.
michael malice
Okay.
shane cashman
What was the Insurrection Act of 1807?
tim pool
Insurrection Act of 1807.
Let's see.
shane cashman
Aaron Burr was going to take over Mexico or something?
michael malice
There's rumors that he was trying to do that season.
shane cashman
Yeah, there was some guy who turned on him, right?
tim pool
Let's see.
michael malice
I could have sworn it was 1798.
I think we went through a few different iterations.
Okay, got it.
Thank you, Shane.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure you're right because I was reading about both of them today.
Let's see.
In Search and Act 1798 is it, right?
michael malice
Yeah.
That number's in my head for some reason.
tim pool
That was, I think, that's the Alien and Seditions Act.
So the Insurrection Act of 1807 and the Alien and Sedition, yeah.
So they're different, I think.
Insurrection Act was 1807.
michael malice
Okay.
shane cashman
Oh, nope, nope.
tim pool
I was technically wrong.
You were technically wrong.
We were all technically right.
1792.
It was called the Calling Forth Act of 1792.
The Insurrection Act replaced that.
michael malice
Got it.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
Yeah, they were looking for a way to stop Aaron Burr for taking over.
michael malice
We were talking a bit before we started, Aaron.
I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this.
I don't understand her play here.
Who is this helping?
tim pool
Well, she's backtracked.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
Check this out.
Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum reacts to LA ICE protests.
This was from later in the day.
So about 12 hours later, she says...
Burning police cars appears to be more than an act of provocation than resistance.
We condemn violence no matter where it comes from.
We call on the Mexican community to act pacifically and not allow itself to be provoked.
However, a day ago, she praised them.
michael malice
Hold on.
You've got to pause there.
Not allowing itself to be provoked.
What she's laying the groundwork for is that if they start burning down things, it's not our fault.
You put this into it.
tim pool
But they do mention, this is Fox 11, a day ago, she praised the contributions of Mexicans in L.A. saying they were good, honest men and women who left to seek a better life for themselves and support their family.
L.A. wouldn't be what it was if it weren't for the Mexicans who live there.
That's true.
michael malice
It's true.
You can't deny it.
unidentified
There's a big Mexican influence on L.A. A lot of burritos there.
tim pool
I think this later statement is that she's realizing by defending the people that are here illegally.
She's effectively sanctioned an invasion, no matter how small or how big Trump wants to view it as.
How many Mexican illegal immigrants come to this country, and she's publicly declared to the world they're good, should be supported, and it's a just thing to do.
I'm sorry, you know what my point on this was?
They're just seeking a better life.
Okay.
The majority of conflicts are because people are, quote unquote, seeking a better life.
Like when Genghis Khan invaded and conquered a bunch of lands, or when the Vikings raided the British Isles.
It was because they wanted something that would make their lives better.
michael malice
Yeah, there's no question that the vast, The numbers just don't know.
No one's denying this.
The point is, at a certain point, you can only integrate so many people and there's only so much physical space for them.
And you have to draw the line somewhere.
It's not complicated.
phil labonte
The argument that we make on this, that we discuss most frequently on the show, is the argument about the census and about representative government.
You know, the people that are coming into the United States, if you were coming here illegally and you Then you affect how the representatives in Congress are apportioned, how that happens, and that's diluting the voting power of citizens that have been here all their lives, that didn't want you to come to the United States.
You came illegally, and that's wrong to the existing citizens.
michael malice
Yes.
And by the way, when people yell at me for not voting, I just realized this in the last month, my new line, I'm going to say something in stupid arguments with them, is I don't think immigrants should be allowed to vote.
All right, folks.
phil labonte
I'm an immigrant, so.
But it's true.
The fact that this is diluting the voting power of the American citizen is the biggest problem.
michael malice
The biggest problem, in my opinion, and I think you'd agree, is birthright citizenship.
It makes no sense.
phil labonte
I do agree.
michael malice
Just because you're born on American soil does not make you an American.
There should be a process.
There's a process for my family.
And if part of that process was...
That's fine.
There's plenty of people in awful countries who are like, you know what?
I'll put it in 10 years.
It's so much better to where I came from.
If I can't vote, so much the better I can stop free speech.
tim pool
The example that I always give is that if you live in an apartment with a roommate and then one day a guy is sleeping on your couch and so you say, okay, fine.
It's okay that he crashes here for a little bit.
The next person who shows up, you say, you know what, I'm putting my foot down.
Guy on the couch and your roommate both raised their hand.
We vote, he can come in.
Two against one.
What's happening in this country, we are watching American citizens, these are American citizens, largely flying the Mexican flags.
michael malice
Because they feel safe, and they're correct to feel safe.
tim pool
They can't be deported, they're Americans.
But they're allegiant to Mexico.
Well, I got news.
Sooner or later, when there is an actual, like right now, you know, let me just say this.
It's all interpretable, and it's all how history will dictate, and that means whoever wins is going to get it.
Trump can say the Mexican president has aided and abetted illegal immigration and invasion into our country.
Americans who are—if you are firebombing federal law enforcement, that's sedition.
That is a seditious conspiracy against federal law enforcement, against a foreign invasive force.
There's going to be severe penalties for that.
That's like 10 years in prison.
michael malice
Make everyone in this room very scared and blackpill them because there's a part to the story that people might be too young to realize.
Phil, I'm sure you're going to remember this.
I'm going to try to be mean.
The last Republican governor of California – before Schwarzenegger, sorry.
The second to last Republican governor of California was Pete Wilson.
And there was a referendum on the ballot.
I forget what it was.
It was 11, I think it was.
And the bill – it passed and it said you can't use – I don't remember exactly.
tim pool
You can't use public funds for non-citizens.
michael malice
For non-citizens.
And this was supposed to be California's last stand.
We're getting overrun.
If you want to be here, fine.
You're not going to get the largesse of the Californian government since you're not paying in.
The court struck it down, and as a consequence of that, California, which was heavily purple, has gone extremely blue.
tim pool
That was the last time I ever voted red.
michael malice
Right.
And the concern is if Trump doesn't make this stick, California, which has in many other ways been like a laboratory for the rest of the country, can be a premonition for what's to come.
tim pool
Historians, writers, journalists, whatever they call it, say that California is usually five years ahead of the rest of the country.
What happens there will happen to the rest of the country.
But the story with Reagan, I believe it was like amnesty in 1986.
He was president.
He signed it.
So there were 2.9 million illegal immigrants who were overnight granted this amnesty.
In 1994, I think it was, is when they said, we want to ban public funds for non-citizens.
Well, guess what?
The people granted amnesty and their children who were granted amnesty said, You're going to take money away from my aunt, my uncle, my dad, my mom?
No.
And so they all flipped and voted for the Democrats who promised to make sure illegal immigrants could still get your public funds.
That is what happens.
And right now, take a look at this photo.
This is the iconic photo from the riots just the other day of black smoke as a man waves a Mexican flag.
These people, there's a video of a man burning an American flag saying, that's not my flag.
These people don't even want American citizenship.
They were born here and they were like, they gave it to me, I never asked for it.
They've been protesting in the streets of California, make California Mexico again.
I'm not exaggerating.
I've witnessed this.
In San Jose at a Trump rally where they were mercilessly beating people in the streets, they were holding up those signs saying, make California Mexico again.
They argue that, was it Mexican-American, was it 1835 or something?
That the U.S. basically took all this land from Mexico and that California is actually theirs and has been the whole time.
phil labonte
Mexico owned that portion of land for like 20 years.
It's been part of America for like 10 times longer than it was ever part of Mexico.
michael malice
I just had a great idea that might solve everything.
Let's make California Gaza.
shane cashman
It would solve a lot of problems.
Michael's about to sail there.
tim pool
Functionally, what do you mean by that?
michael malice
Oh, I think you all know what I mean.
I think you know exactly what I mean.
shane cashman
I think we should have invaded California a long time ago.
michael malice
Located.
shane cashman
I was going down memory lane just the last few years.
Here's some.
Maxine Waters inciting political violence.
Eric Swalwell sleeping with a Chinese spy.
Kamala Harris, Bonnie, bluing her way into power.
They were arresting surfers while lockdowns were happening.
Nancy Pelosi getting her hair done during lockdowns.
The skate park still was insane.
Hollywood is allowed to do its thing while churches were shut down.
And they had secret Chinese police stations in LA and San Francisco.
This is not America.
tim pool
To be fair, those secret Chinese police stations all over the country.
shane cashman
They were in Nebraska.
They were in New York City.
michael malice
What do you mean secret Chinese police?
tim pool
China set up what were like private organizations to police Chinese individuals in this country.
michael malice
Is that a bad thing?
tim pool
They created a shadow government to enforce laws that aren't on the American books.
michael malice
So their job is to make sure Chinese people don't break the law?
shane cashman
They were their own stuff.
They were people who would go against the CCP.
tim pool
Yes.
michael malice
I don't hate it.
tim pool
So if you're an American...
I hate that.
If you're a Chinese person in the United States, A Chinese person.
michael malice
Okay, but not a citizen.
tim pool
Not a citizen.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
And let's say you fled China to come to the United States.
They would come and they'd beat and drag you because they're not arresting you.
They have no authority to do that.
They would detain you under their authority in the United States.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from the Post Millennial.
Breaking!
President Trump says Gavin Newsom should be arrested amid LA riots.
Okay.
First of all, the weirdest thing happened with Gavin Newsom where he's being interviewed and he goes, what are you going to do, Tom Homan?
michael malice
Arrest me?
tim pool
I'd like to see that!
You know, come on, I can take it!
michael malice
Did he really?
tim pool
Yes.
Remember Mel Gibson on South Park?
Where he was like, what are you going to do?
I don't want to be too crass, maybe I shouldn't get into it.
But he was like, I can take it, stick it in there, come on!
Is that what you think you're going to do?
This is what I get from...
Maybe they have the video, I don't know, where he's like, arrest me!
Arrest me!
I can take it!
So here's the video of Trump.
Here you go.
unidentified
Gavin Newsom!
He's daring Tom Homan to come and arrest him.
tim pool
Should he do it?
donald j trump
I would do it.
unidentified
I think it's great.
I would do it.
He's done a terrible job.
donald j trump
I like Gavin Newsom.
He's a nice guy, but he's grossly incompetent.
Everybody knows.
All you have to do is look at the little railroad he's building.
It's about 100 times over budget.
We're putting a flagpole over there.
Under budget.
I always do under budget.
michael malice
We're at a point where Trump sounds like he's doing a Trump impression.
Everybody knows the railroad.
tim pool
I would do it if I were Tom.
I think he's great.
Gavin likes the publicity, but I think it would be a great thing.
phil labonte
Yeah, I like the fact that he's like, look, I like Gavin, but arrest him.
It'd be hilarious, just arrest him.
It'd be funny, great, if you do it.
michael malice
He swore an oath.
It's not for his friends.
phil labonte
That's right.
michael malice
Wow.
phil labonte
I mean, I think it'd be kind of, like, it would be great for Gavin Newsom if he was arrested, if Trump arrested him.
michael malice
You know he's got arrest.
phil labonte
Pardon me?
michael malice
You know who he's got arrest?
tim pool
Let me play the clip for you.
michael malice
Hold on, hold on.
Karen Bass.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah, yeah.
michael malice
That's who you got arrest.
shane cashman
Yeah, she's burned down the city twice now.
michael malice
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Listen to this.
gavin newsom
He's been here 10 years.
The fear.
The horror.
michael malice
What the hell is this guy?
gavin newsom
Come after me.
Arrest me.
Let's just get it over with.
Tough guy.
You know?
I don't give a damn.
But I care about my community.
I care about this community.
The hell are they doing?
These guys need to grow up.
They need to stop.
michael malice
Grow up?
What does that mean?
gavin newsom
And we need to push back.
And I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind of bloviating is exhausting.
So, Tom, arrest me.
Let's go.
michael malice
I love the idea that that kind of blow-baiting is exhausting, but this kind of blow-baiting, that's the stuff you want.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
From the way he was saying, arrest me, Tom.
Come on.
I feel like he's into it.
He is!
shane cashman
It'll help his campaign.
tim pool
I don't mean that.
phil labonte
It would be the best for him.
tim pool
I think he's looking at Tom being like, that's the kind of guy I want to cuff me.
michael malice
Oh, boy.
Okay, so we know that Gavin Newsom is Eskimo brothers with Junior.
shane cashman
Yes.
michael malice
Because Gavin Newsom used to be married to Kilmer Guilfoyle, who's now the ambassador to Greece.
shane cashman
So I think it's pretty given that any— It sounds so much dirtier now when you put it like that.
michael malice
But it's true.
I think it's pretty much a given that any political figure has got to be a pervert behind closed walls.
And that's not king-shaming, but— Come on, Tom.
tim pool
I can take it.
unidentified
Arrest me.
michael malice
You know he would love to be handcuffed and that hair carefully lost.
A little bit of a broken lip.
phil labonte
It would be the best thing for his career this year.
tim pool
It's just the, oh no, don't.
We get it, Gavin.
You want him to arrest you.
michael malice
You know what I think it is?
I think he's seen the same numbers everyone in this room has, and he sees his path to the nomination in 2028 is not as clear as he imagined it would have been.
All the polls I've seen him, shockingly, of all the Democrats, he polls the worst, which you would think is he's so slick that he'd do well, and it's not flying.
tim pool
Well, I think they should arrest him, but not for this.
Have you arrested?
How does that sound?
And then Gavin's like, OK, come do it.
Then they should go through his personal belongings and arrest him like a drug charge or something.
michael malice
Can we say something else, though?
He saw what happened that getting arrested did for Trump.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Yeah.
michael malice
So he's like – he's just playing the same – he's like, wait a minute.
If it worked for Trump, it'll work for me.
shane cashman
It'd be great for his podcast.
michael malice
They still have it.
They're still doing it.
shane cashman
I don't know.
But like he – they should arrest him but do it totally in secret so he gets no publicity.
michael malice
No perp walk.
shane cashman
No perp walk.
And then they could deny it.
Just throw him away for a while and say, I don't know where he went.
tim pool
Or they can arrest him and charge him with something absolutely insane related to like just – Try to overturn the election?
Something ridiculous.
You know what I mean?
Where it's just like, what?
shane cashman
Being a demon.
michael malice
I don't think he's charismatic enough to be a demon.
shane cashman
Oh, he's a demon.
michael malice
No, he's not.
shane cashman
I've been in a room with that guy.
He smells like sulfur.
michael malice
Well, that's because he took the shower here.
tim pool
Nobody has any idea what that means, Michael.
michael malice
The water here in Springfield has sulfur in it.
I don't want to give any location.
Springfield has sulfur in it.
tim pool
Springfield, West Virginia.
michael malice
I don't know.
I know how secretive you're being.
tim pool
It's really funny because all the country folk...
And the funniest thing about it is when they go to the bathroom, someone will wash their hands and walk out of the bathroom and they'll walk in and go, whoa, whoa, turn the fan on or light a match.
And it's like, bro, that's the sink, not the toilet.
You're just smelling sulfur and well water.
I'm down.
It's like you've never gone to a lake house?
What are you doing?
shane cashman
No, he's a demon, dude.
phil labonte
He's slick.
shane cashman
Not all demons are charming.
tim pool
No, yeah, but maybe.
But a lesser demon.
michael malice
He's evil enough.
He's a slime.
shane cashman
There's levels to demons.
michael malice
Are you going to tell me about levels to demons?
shane cashman
Yeah, let's talk about levels to demons.
unidentified
Are you serious?
phil labonte
Demon or reptile person?
michael malice
Yeah.
shane cashman
Thin line, Phil.
That's a thin line.
phil labonte
No, because demons are spiritual creatures.
unidentified
He's not a spiritual evil.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
I'm with Mike on this one.
Reptilians?
When you describe someone as reptilian, they're not good at social behaviors.
They're weird and cold and they lack emotion.
Demons can convince you to sell your soul.
They're very charming.
shane cashman
I think the reptiles are demons.
Reptiles are demons.
michael malice
Okay.
shane cashman
Definitely.
michael malice
Someone needs a dictionary.
tim pool
Are you kidding?
shane cashman
Someone needs a Bible.
tim pool
The reptiles are from Zeta-Rotica.
michael malice
That's why I smell like salt.
tim pool
They're aliens.
The reptiles are at best interdimensional beings.
It's not demons.
shane cashman
I've seen him put on his skin suit at the presidential debate, and then he's- Hold on, hold on.
Thank you.
Demon hiding.
tim pool
Gavin Newsom puts on his skin suit one leg at a time just like all the other reptiles.
michael malice
One scale at a time.
tim pool
One scale at a time.
michael malice
One tail at a time.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
michael malice
I can't believe you...
He does not seem powerful and dangerous to me.
shane cashman
But there's demons who are low-level, like, operating behind 7-Elevens trying to get children, and there's demons in politics.
demons like Ted Bundy.
michael malice
I would trust Gavin Newsom to babysit my nephews.
tim pool
Wait, wait.
Wait, I got it.
unidentified
What?
michael malice
I don't think he's like that.
tim pool
I got it.
He's a familiar.
michael malice
Who's the witch, though?
tim pool
Well, no, no.
He's a demons familiar.
michael malice
No, the witches have familiars.
Am I the only one here who played D&D who had no friends as a kid?
phil labonte
I played D&D.
michael malice
Thank you.
tim pool
You can be a demon slave.
michael malice
You can't be a demon's familiar.
tim pool
I get it.
Okay, fine.
He sold his soul to a demon.
unidentified
There you go.
michael malice
There you go.
Not to make him a demon.
Right.
tim pool
Agreed.
shane cashman
We can all agree on that.
tim pool
We're in agreement as to the magical implications of Gavin Newsom's personality.
phil labonte
That just made him the mayor of San Francisco and the governor of California for however long he has been.
That's how he achieved these great results.
feats.
So, but I, Maybe you're saying that Kimberly Giffle is the witch.
michael malice
Maybe he was her familiar.
shane cashman
Maybe.
phil labonte
She seems nice.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised.
michael malice
I don't think she's a witch at all.
unidentified
But I like Don Jr., so...
michael malice
They split up.
tim pool
I know, but even then, it's like, oh, Don's cool, though.
michael malice
Yeah, I like him.
tim pool
Which is tricky, though.
I gotta be honest, though.
Like, outside of all the weird, joking, magical stuff, it is...
michael malice
Hold on.
Can I say one thing and then you're gonna agree with me?
I'm not joking that I think there are demons walking among us who commit evil things that someone like Gavin Newsom would never do.
tim pool
I agree.
And you know what?
We've talked about demons and stuff before.
I was talking to Jack Posobiec, and I said, you know, telling me that Jesus resurrected doesn't convince me of Christianity, but telling me there are demons does.
shane cashman
But I think there would be demons in power who would destroy entire states.
michael malice
But they're not going to be like him.
They're going to be behind the scenes.
shane cashman
I think he fetishizes the destruction and chaos and what he did to California all these years.
tim pool
But my point is, I have met people that defy logic as to their evil.
michael malice
Bill?
tim pool
Who?
michael malice
Phil?
tim pool
Phil's not evil.
Phil's a paladin.
unidentified
Is he?
tim pool
He's a knight of righteous...
phil labonte
Some kind of bard, I think.
tim pool
No, man.
michael malice
Bard, yes, yeah.
tim pool
There are people that I cannot believe the levels of evil.
And obviously when you look at Epstein, you're like, oh, you mean demons?
Yeah, yeah, obviously there are greater demons of power of pure evil and things like that.
I'm talking about...
They are seeking to do evil at any level possible.
For fun.
For demonic pleasure.
And it's crazy how in the past several years it seems to have become more and more pronounced.
michael malice
I think people are more because because Hollywood teaches us since we're kids that like evil people you could spot them on site and now I think thanks to social media like wait wait people do the kinds of evil things that you don't hear about movies I think I talked about last time I was here I heard this story is on YouTube I think about like Once a week, this mom and her teenage son, there was a kid, the other son, and he had to sleep under the stairs.
The only food he was given was bread with the hottest hot sauce.
He couldn't – he had to sit and mobile.
And if he moved, they had motion detected.
They put him in ice baths and they killed him.
tim pool
Oh, right, yeah.
michael malice
And it's like that's demonic activity.
Who's helping?
That's not just child abuse.
tim pool
I actually – I don't know.
I don't think I'd say enough to believe, but – It certainly feels plausible that there has been an increase in some kind of evil possession over the past decade plus where it's become profoundly – you look at some of these protest videos.
You look at some of the behaviors people engage in.
You look at – look, man.
I don't want to get into the personal stuff for me, but I have witnessed things that shock the soul as to the – and I'm like people that I've known my whole life doing things.
With Kubrick's stares.
It's like, you can argue they have a psychotic break and want to be demons, or there's something else, spiritual, that has infected their souls.
unidentified
I don't know.
shane cashman
It's all of it.
You know, it's like when I was out with Alex Rosen catching those all predators.
You know, and like, this man was a demon.
Like, he was about to walk away with an 11-year-old girl.
He was a straight-up demon.
michael malice
See, I think there's two kinds of predators.
There's people who are victims themselves, and they kind of pass it on.
And there's people who do evil for the sake of evil.
shane cashman
But I think those people...
Because a lot of these people were victims themselves from their childhood.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial.
Waymo pulls self-driving cars out of downtown LA after five torched by rioters.
The company said that it removed its vehicles from downtown LA and would not be serving that area out of an abundance of caution.
Autonomous taxi service Waymo suspending its service.
Per the Washington Post, the company said that it has removed its vehicles from downtown LA.
Footage from the streets of LA showed riders attacking the self-driving vehicles in the street, with one being seen on the roof of the car, hitting it with a skateboard.
Another car was seen on fire as riders posed in front of it for photos.
Well, what I will say about Waymo is that I used it when I was in LA, and I did not enjoy it.
It dropped me off the wrong location every time.
And when it dropped us off, Sean and I, it dropped us off on the side of the road.
Like a busy street.
It just slowed down in the middle of a road.
And then you said, you're at your destination.
I was like, no, I'm not.
I'm not kidding out on the road.
What?
michael malice
I think Waymo kind of saved my life because the first time – I'm not even kidding.
Watch.
I'll tell you the story.
The first time I was in a Waymo, I recorded it, and I put it on Instagram.
I was so excited.
And all the comments were like, you sound like a pug.
Are you pleasuring yourself in there?
Why are you breathing so heavy?
And I listened to it, and I was breathing very heavily, which was very disturbing to me.
And I went to an ENT, and that's how I learned how to sleep apnea.
phil labonte
Oh, all right.
Okay.
michael malice
And after that, I got the machine.
It's a very dangerous thing to have because when you're asleep several times a night, you're choking, and sometimes you don't wake up.
Or it gets you so depressed and anxious, you start having severe cognitive distortions.
So that Waymo was a major benefit to me.
phil labonte
And you're sleeping well now, right?
tim pool
Because you were all filming the Waymo.
michael malice
I was inside it.
tim pool
Right, and you were filming like, look, there's no driver.
michael malice
Yes.
And thank you to all the fans for being so mean, because that got through to me.
I saved someone's life once through my cruelty.
This is a true story.
My friend Tibby, who was in Cash Cab with me, this is years ago, so I'm sorry if I'm telling a story out of school.
She was in a very bad way, and she wanted to commit self-harm.
So there was only a bottle of Manischewitz in the house to wash everything down, and she thought to herself, if I do this, Michael will never let me hear the end of it.
So she waited a day and her husband found her and now she's happy, healthy.
Wow.
phil labonte
Glad to hear it.
tim pool
What, you would like haunt her soul?
michael malice
No, I would just stand up about it.
I mean, it's funny.
tim pool
That would be my legacy.
michael malice
Is that the most kosher suicide that's ever happened?
shane cashman
It's a good name for a book.
It's because trolling can save lives.
michael malice
It can.
tim pool
Let's talk about these Waymos.
You know why they got trashed?
It's because you can summon them and they won't fight back.
Yeah.
My assumption is either these cars were driving down the street and someone walked in front of it and it just stops.
michael malice
Sure.
tim pool
And then everyone just says, there's no one who can stop us, no one who can report us, and they got destroyed.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually called one, ordered it.
michael malice
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, their record, they're going to be on file having done it, and they're going to say, it wasn't me who did it.
They're going to say, I was calling a Waymo to get a ride and then everyone else attacked it.
michael malice
Right.
shane cashman
Lazy arsonists.
michael malice
Bring the car to me.
Instead of me going in the car, the car comes to me.
shane cashman
What happened?
michael malice
It's the future.
tim pool
There was a really great point made about Waymo.
I saw an X that they're bad to use for one reason.
They are the bottom tier of the bottom class in traffic.
Whenever you call a Waymo, it'll say it's seven minutes away and it'll take 20. Why?
michael malice
I've never had that, really?
tim pool
Because people will walk in front of it.
michael malice
That's not my experience in Austin.
tim pool
So, in LA, we used Waymo, I think, three or four times, and they were always longer than, it would say it would be like seven minutes out, and then it would take 15 minutes.
michael malice
I've never had that happen once in Austin.
tim pool
Well, LA.
What the argument is, is that when people see a Waymo and they want to jaywalk, they'll just keep going, because they know the Waymo will stop.
When Waymo wants to turn left, okay, most people don't know this.
I could be wrong, but my understanding is when you're turning left at an intersection, it's illegal to pull into the center of the intersection.
You're supposed to wait in the lane until you have an opportunity to go.
Everybody pulls into the middle of the lane so that three cars go and then it turns yellow and three cars will turn left.
Waymo will not.
Waymo will stay in the left turn lane and then people will keep blowing past it.
And if they're blowing the yellow light, the light will turn red and the Waymo will not go.
So we were standing at an intersection.
We were standing on...
There was an intersection, and we were about...
And I'm like, there's the Waymo!
And it was like two or three lights and it wouldn't turn left.
Because human drivers were blowing...
They would jump through the light at yellow at the last minute, and the Waymo couldn't make the turn.
michael malice
That's interesting if it's going to...
And it's also because the drivers in those cities.
tim pool
That's right.
shane cashman
Yeah, the way it's learning.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Surroundings, yeah.
tim pool
However, the argument is that once they make it illegal to drive cars— And they're actively trying and they want to get to that point.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
It's going to be the best driving experience.
Zero traffic.
There will never be traffic ever again.
All self-driving cars will communicate with each other.
So if there's a million people on the highway, all the cars can move forward and backward to the exact same time without fear of collision.
And when you're entering the highway, it will reduce all the cars by one mile an hour in the back and speed up the ones by a mile an hour, creating spaces.
That's the argument.
As for now, you've got a bunch of cars that suck.
shane cashman
I'm going to have a horse and carriage.
michael malice
I don't think they suck.
I mean, my experience has been very, very different.
tim pool
In Austin?
michael malice
Yes, I'll wait.
tim pool
When they drop you off, do they pull into parking lots?
michael malice
I'll tell you my bad Waymo experiences.
I've had a couple of bad ones, okay?
And it's kind of interesting because it shows how when you have AI, it's smart but also stupid.
I think when AI first started, they tried to get it to learn things.
They found it at the encyclopedia, and one of the deductions was that everyone born before 1700 was famous, which makes logical sense, right?
But you can see I've got that conclusion.
Of course, yeah.
Waymo did—I've had two kind of not good experiences.
I've used that term very loosely.
One is it was stopping across the street from the location, so it looped around the whole block to make that left turn so it could meet in front of me.
It wouldn't recognize that I'm just across the street.
Another time, someone left the Waymo, left the door open, and it couldn't recognize that the trip was completed.
So I had to get in, call someone.
They made me leave.
They can't reset it if I'm inside.
They're talking to me through the machine.
I'm like, I can't hear you.
The window's closed.
And it went back to where I first started, which was a block away.
But these are little quirks that I think will be finished.
tim pool
Remember that guy who was in the parking lot going in circles screaming?
michael malice
Oh yeah, of course.
The fact that it's as good as it is now, I think it's kind of miraculous.
Look at a video game or social media site.
When you have the beta testing, it's rarely this solid.
tim pool
You know what is cool though?
When you're in the Waymo on the screen, because of all the sensors, it shows you all the traffic.
But other Waymo vehicles are highlighted, they're different because it knows them.
And I was like, once every car is on the grid or the network, the way they described it, their end vision, not Waymo specifically, but the self-driving car industry, everyone will have an Uber app or Lyft or whatever.
Each will have a fleet.
All the cars from every company communicate with each other.
No one will own cars.
You'll simply walk outside and you'll be like, I need to go to the store and you'll hit a button.
And within a minute, the car arrives because there's so many cars everywhere, all moving back left to right.
It will just pull up, pick you up and take you where you want to go and drop you off.
shane cashman
How would you feel about it?
tim pool
They've actually talked about, get this, self-driving cars with pods and the pods are transferable.
I think this was Mitsubishi, maybe?
I can't remember which company.
They said, you can call, a van will come and pull up to your house.
You'll load your luggage.
It'll drive up, then it will transport the pod of the van onto a track, which will be pulled by a train, up to an airport, where the pod will then slide into a plane, and the plane will take off to bring you to your next destination.
I don't know that we get there.
Modular vehicle transport, self-driving cars already happening.
michael malice
But I think if we were five years ago, we could not have predicted Waymo being as successful as it is now in five years.
phil labonte
When was the first time you were in a self-driving car?
michael malice
Was there a month ago?
The breathing problem.
So this is a few months ago.
phil labonte
The first time.
michael malice
This was the first time.
phil labonte
Like a Tesla as well?
michael malice
Oh no, sorry.
phil labonte
I was full self-driving.
tim pool
Tesla is nothing compared to Waymo.
michael malice
Tesla is self-driving then.
tim pool
It is.
But I'm going to tell you, as an owner of several Teslas, you cannot compare Waymo to a self-driving Tesla.
phil labonte
Why do you think that?
tim pool
I have a Honda that can self-drive and it's got what they call lane assist.
So you go on the highway, you press the button, take your hands off the wheel, it'll go.
Tesla's a little better than that.
It'll actually stop.
It'll turn at lights.
Waymo has all of the sensors.
Like, Tesla can self-drive in a limited capacity with you sitting in the driver's seat looking forward.
But often, like in rain, it disables.
There's numerous instances where it's almost slammed me into vehicles, which is...
I was in Hagerstown, Maryland.
And I was like, I always just press auto drive and then I sit.
I got within two inches of a car in auto-drive, and I just jammed the wheel to the left to dodge and went into the wrong oncoming traffic.
There was no traffic coming towards me, but I had to go in the other lane to dodge it.
And then it goes boom, boom, like a thing pops on the screen saying, you disabled auto-drive.
michael malice
What happened?
Is it possible that it wasn't working well because there's an Asian driver?
tim pool
It could be.
The AI is like, ooh, this guy.
michael malice
I can tell.
He's passing, but I know.
tim pool
In my Tesla, there's a highway out here.
And it's a state highway that has, I think it's like four lanes on each side.
It's pretty big.
If you want to turn left, you have to pull into the median and stop.
I'm going 70 miles an hour on auto drive.
This is when my wife is driving.
And it slammed the brakes on in the middle of the highway because a truck was sitting in the median.
michael malice
Oh, wow.
Interesting.
tim pool
And it panicked and thought...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
There's also issues with rural areas where it...
Like, I scraped a tree because it...
There's also a part of the road out here that has collapsed about a foot because we're in the mountains of Appalachia or whatever, so they're not real big, but they're mountains.
And so there's an area by us that goes to a steep drop-off, and the road on the right side has crumbled a little bit.
And it fell into it.
And it went boom and then flipped them.
I was like, because it can't see that.
Waymo cars have...
They have sonar, LiDAR.
michael malice
What's LiDAR?
tim pool
Laser, right?
michael malice
Oh, is that right?
What's you, Phil?
tim pool
Light?
I don't know.
Thank you.
I think it's light.
Then there's these cameras are built into the frame.
These massive cameras all over the place.
Tesla's, my understanding, used to have sonar and then Elon disabled it saying cameras are better.
Yeah, when it's raining, I can't self-drive.
Waymo is going to be able to drive in the rain.
But this is the big challenge.
Because I've...
It'll be raining.
It'll say self-driving has been degraded and then it'll just turn off abruptly and shut off.
michael malice
You want to hear us?
So sometimes I'm sure everyone in this room has had brain farts and you realize something.
You're like, wait a minute.
That was stupid.
I've been using Waymo for months.
In Austin, it's just luck of the draw.
It's integrated into Lyft.
tim pool
Really?
michael malice
Yeah.
I can't just pick Waymo if I want it.
tim pool
In LA, I had to download Waymo.
michael malice
It'll say like, hey, you've also matched with the Waymo.
Usually a few minutes more.
I'm like, yes, so hard my finger breaks.
And it took me like a couple of months to realize because I always sit in the passenger seat.
It took me a couple of months to realize, wait a minute, my backpack from the gym.
I don't have to put it between my legs.
I could put it in the driver's seat because no one's there.
I'm so used to like you're the passenger seat.
You put your book bag on your feet.
Yeah.
I was very proud of myself for that one.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the website No Kings.
michael malice
That sounds about right, Phil.
I like the sound of that.
tim pool
They've got rallies planned for the 14th.
There are thousands that are set up.
So I think we have formally six.
official events.
You've got...
michael malice
Can we also agree before...
tim pool
Yes.
michael malice
Can we all agree on that?
tim pool
And that's where I'm getting.
michael malice
Okay, sorry.
tim pool
You've got Philly.
michael malice
I apologize.
tim pool
You've got Charlotte.
You've got Atlanta.
Chicago.
You've got Houston.
michael malice
Is that Charlottesville you said or Charlotte?
Charlotte.
tim pool
And you've got No Kings Phoenix.
But all of these smaller events...
Look at that one.
michael malice
What's No Kings mean in this context?
phil labonte
Trump.
tim pool
They even have some in Canada.
Here's one in Ottawa.
michael malice
They don't have kings in Mexico, do they?
Not anymore.
tim pool
Do they have any events in Mexico?
They do.
Yes.
michael malice
Wow.
tim pool
No Kings, Ensenada, Mexico.
phil labonte
It's all leftist garbage.
michael malice
But what is it?
I'm sorry.
I gotta say one more thing.
phil labonte
There should be no dad.
unidentified
Look at this.
michael malice
I gotta say something.
In all seriousness.
tim pool
Oh, haka!
michael malice
Going from literally Hitler to you're kind of a king, that's kind of an upgrade.
tim pool
Check this out.
So they've got many in Mexico.
They've got Mexico City.
michael malice
No tyrants.
tim pool
How do you say that?
shane cashman
That sounds cool.
tim pool
Ahihik?
Ahihik?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
It's A-J-I-J-I-C.
Malice.
And Puerto Rico.
michael malice
Don't forget Puerto Rico.
Nothing in Cuba, though.
tim pool
Nothing in Cuba.
I wonder if there's any else.
shane cashman
There's one in the middle, though, in South America.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
Where?
michael malice
That's the lake.
shane cashman
Oh, sorry.
That's a lake.
michael malice
That's like Titicaca.
tim pool
Oh, all over Europe.
shane cashman
Oh, nice.
phil labonte
Oh, surprisingly, all over Western Europe, too.
tim pool
Listen, I know that what they're doing is they're creating these as hubs so that anybody who wants to participate can.
And they're sending it to activists in the region to inform other activists.
michael malice
And also you get their email addresses.
tim pool
But here's the question.
This is remarkably expensive to organize.
Mass protests in several countries, four different countries, thousands across the United States it appears.
This is institutional level organizing for anti-Trump protests.
michael malice
You know who is probably behind this?
Soros, Alex.
There's got to be Soros money.
I bet you.
tim pool
Probably.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, that's that's generally This is completely astroturf.
michael malice
This is very corporate.
This is not organic.
shane cashman
Right.
It's not the yellow vest.
michael malice
Right.
shane cashman
They did their thing.
That felt organic.
tim pool
But people show up to these things.
phil labonte
They do.
michael malice
I'm sorry.
I'm asking a dumb question, and I apologize in advance.
Not because it's dumb, the question.
The answer is going to be dumb.
Is their point that no one should ever be deported from anywhere?
phil labonte
No, their point is they just want...
You think it is?
tim pool
When we had a liberal woman on the show...
No.
phil labonte
Excuse me.
tim pool
She said that one of the things that Trump did that's bad was that he forced trans people to put their gender marker on their passports, meaning if they travel to other countries, they'll be killed.
And I said, what right does an American have to lie on documents to enter a foreign country in violation of their laws?
And she said they have the liberty to do so.
The actual view of these...
shane cashman
I think the title No Kings says a lot because it's like I don't – I think these are – these riots are for immigrants as much as BLM riots were for black lives.
It's an excuse to be anti-Trump.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
michael malice
I got to give these people credit.
This is really smart because this is as close I've seen in the last 10 years to lefties draping themselves in the American flag because this is the kind of thing patriots say.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael malice
Like that is like right wing.
tim pool
Well, they're also reportedly right now the rumor going around is that in L.A. Organizations are handing out American flags to protesters because they understand the Mexican flag is very bad.
michael malice
I had Destiny on my show, and one of the smartest things he said, it goes, it's absolutely insane that Democrats don't wave the American flag.
The best country on earth.
This alienates voters.
What the hell are you thinking?
And he's absolutely correct.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, it alienates your average normie American that doesn't want to be a self-hating person.
To the nth degree.
And then expect them to be like, oh, you're right.
Let me get the cat of nine tails and whip myself and feel bad and I should change everything in my life.
You're not going to get normal people to do that.
I'm going to go do whatever it is that I want to do with my family, my friends, whatever.
michael malice
And I remember it was 2008, 2012.
There was a rumor that Michelle Obama's thesis or something like that had some kind of anti-American stuff.
And she came out of the Democratic convention and she opened her speech with, my name is Michelle Obama and I love America.
She couldn't wait to drape herself with the flag.
And they won.
That's the winning move.
tim pool
They don't love America, though.
michael malice
I disagree.
I think Michelle Obama loves her.
America's done her very well.
She loves her vision of America.
shane cashman
She says she's a victim, though.
michael malice
You could be a victim.
shane cashman
But she makes it sound like America has victimized her.
I don't know if she really loves her.
michael malice
I think I'll defend her.
I'm sure being first lady to that presidency was not a fun experience for her.
shane cashman
Especially as a trans person.
michael malice
I don't think she did not seem to be enjoying herself.
unidentified
No.
shane cashman
No.
phil labonte
I don't imagine that very many first ladies will, in the future, will enjoy that.
michael malice
I think Melania likes it.
I think Jill loves it.
Jill loved it.
shane cashman
She was president.
phil labonte
Jill loved it.
michael malice
Hillary loved it.
Nancy Reagan loved it.
It's a mix.
phil labonte
That's back in the day.
I think it's going to become...
michael malice
And especially because they have to bite their tongue because they're not elected.
I agree with you, Phil.
phil labonte
Which is why Melania doesn't spend as much time in the White House this time as she did the first time.
And a lot of it is because of the scrutiny that people put on you.
And it goes for the left and the right.
I'm sure that people can say, oh, Melania got it worse than Michelle.
And I would actually say I don't think Melania has gotten it worse than Michelle.
michael malice
Yes, we should.
tim pool
While you're doing that, I've got the toolkit for this event.
They're saying what to know.
They say you want to register to be a host.
Don't register an event in D.C. They are concerned about Trump's upcoming military parade and they don't want to conflict with it, which is, I think, the funniest thing imagined about their No Kings protest.
phil labonte
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
Guys, guys, we're not actually going to protest Trump's event.
That'd be protesting a king.
He's a king, but we'll protest somewhere else.
shane cashman
Let the king have his parade.
tim pool
Yeah.
michael malice
We have one review, and I want to thank this person.
phil labonte
Five out of five.
michael malice
The review said five out of five, and God bless you, whoever you are.
I wish you gave me your name, because I would have followed.
They go, this book did not adequately explain why I was blocked on X. So if I knew who this was, I would not only unblock you, I would follow you.
But head over to notsickofwinning.com, and let's see if we get this book to rank.
phil labonte
That's great.
michael malice
I'm not getting a number at all for now.
shane cashman
That's hilarious.
michael malice
That is hilarious.
shane cashman
I hope they reach out and get a follow back.
phil labonte
That's a great review.
michael malice
It's a great review.
tim pool
Do you know where you're at?
michael malice
Just give me a number.
Is there an audiobook?
tim pool
Everybody, you've got to go to notsickofwinning.com.
Buy the book.
I'm impressed.
A hundred chapters outlining each day of Trump's presidency.
And you said they're all good.
michael malice
All in a row.
tim pool
Not a single bad day.
michael malice
The worst day.
I have in there because I had to stretch for this one was when they gave out the Epstein files.
tim pool
But still it was a good day.
michael malice
It was a good day because at least it recognized that it's still on his mind.
So that was the one where I had to stretch.
But everything else, it was win after win after win.
We forget.
Remember, I had this tweet.
I go, I'm over Trump.
It's been two days and no judge has been arrested.
There were like two judges in two days.
It was crazy.
tim pool
You know, it's really – it's scary in a sense, but not really.
You know, the Democrats understand something about controlling stupid people for power, that there is a reality that stupid people want to be controlled or at the very least they're unwilling to break from the ideology.
michael malice
Henry H.L. Mencken, I quote this all the time, said 100 years ago, the average man does not want to be free.
He simply wants to be safe.
Yeah.
For weeks, it's been like, the Democrats are dead.
There's no way coming back.
I'm like, it's not even the first quarter of his term.
This is the oldest political party on earth.
If you just look today, I ratio – Yes, the Democratic Party.
tim pool
Really?
michael malice
Yes, and that doesn't happen by accident.
unidentified
No, no, but even in America, like no other, Yes, the oldest continuous.
michael malice
Like, there's other parties that existed before, but they're all dead.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
No one's persisted?
michael malice
No one persists like the Democratic Party, and that doesn't happen by accident.
And I just saw this today.
They launched a new – go look it up.
They launched a new livestream on their YouTube.
And they went from having Officer Harris, who was a mentally handicapped biracial woman, the woman running it, who's their communications director, is an Aryan superwoman.
You would think she comes from an alt-right meme.
It's insane.
I'm like, do I have to hide an attic?
Because the second DEI is a problem for them, they're going to throw people under the bus and search for those suburban white votes.
shane cashman
They're good at rebranding.
michael malice
They're very good at rebranding.
shane cashman
And they know that their base is susceptible to that.
tim pool
The second oldest party is?
michael malice
The Biden Party?
tim pool
Conservative UK Party.
michael malice
The Tories?
tim pool
descended from the Tories.
So while technically, I was thinking right away, like, wouldn't the Tories be...
The Tories are considered to have become defunct around 1834, evolving into the Conservative Party, which was formally founded in 1834.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's similar, but in that respect, the Democratic Party is similar.
I love this.
Do you know what preceded the Democratic and Republican parties?
michael malice
It was the Federalists and the Democratic-Republicans.
tim pool
The Democratic-Republicans.
michael malice
Yeah, the Jeffersons.
tim pool
That's funny.
And they were like, let's cut it in half and go to war with each other for hundreds of years.
michael malice
Well, they did because it was the air of good feelings.
The Federalists were destroyed and then you had the two wings.
This is the other thing that really kind of drives me crazy about conservative media.
We're like, we have to defeat the Democrats.
Do you think the Democratic Party goes away?
All those lefty voters are just going to start voting pro-life?
There's still millions of them.
What are you going to do?
They're still going to vote.
tim pool
Then you can never lose even if you have a minority government.
michael malice
And we see that in the UK to some extent.
tim pool
So there's going to be open borders leftists and there's going to be Bernie Sanders national capitalists.
The World Socialist website called Bernie Sanders a nationalist capitalist because he believes that we should close the borders and that workers can make money.
And they were like, no!
He's wrong.
So you make those leftists fight each other.
They form two different factions.
Now you only need 33% to win.
michael malice
Do you know what else I think is going to start happening?
I think increasingly the LGBT coalition is going to fall apart.
phil labonte
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Because of the trans issue.
michael malice
These gay men, many of them are high testosterone, either naturally or through pharmaceutical means, are increasingly going to be like, I have nothing to do with this.
And they all have a lot of money because they don't have kids, and they have a lot of clout because a lot of times they're very powerful.
Watch, that's going to happen.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's something that we've talked about a lot is the fact that one of the things that the left has done is tried to tell regular American men, hey.
You not only have to accept that, if you don't accept it and embrace it and behave as if they are a woman, that might include dating them, then you are a bigot.
michael malice
You had your turn.
phil labonte
Yeah.
michael malice
Now you have to listen to us.
phil labonte
It is.
And you are never going to get people to get on board with that.
shane cashman
They men are straight males.
unidentified
What?
shane cashman
Like gay man and a new straight male sitting in the Democratic Party just like Larry Elder was the blackface of Something I learned tonight.
Thank you.
phil labonte
Women might assent to that, but men are not gunning.
michael malice
Don't you know anything, you guys?
tim pool
You want to read that, Michael?
No?
michael malice
I don't.
tim pool
Who wants to read it?
phil labonte
Straight men are the white people of black people.
tim pool
Did you not know that?
phil labonte
It feels counterintuitive to suggest that straight black men as a whole possess any sort of privilege.
But.
michael malice
Wait, can I actually make a correction?
tim pool
This is the root.com.
michael malice
It would be straight black women, because straight black women are more successful than straight black men.
They go to college at higher rates, they earn more income.
So if you're going to say someone's the white people, the black people, it would be straight white women.
tim pool
No.
Because men are oppressors.
It doesn't matter if they're more successful.
michael malice
It doesn't say men, it says white people.
tim pool
Yes.
michael malice
So, so...
Do they mean oppressors or do they mean successful?
tim pool
This is what they're talking about.
They're talking about privilege.
michael malice
Oh, Jesus.
phil labonte
The white people of black people.
michael malice
But still, straight black women have the most privilege.
Who has the most privilege?
tim pool
Women can't have more privilege than men.
therefore men are always going to be the oppressor.
phil labonte
Because the man is...
michael malice
Even though they go to a cart.
incarcerated.
I mean, if you look at black men going to jail versus black women, it's It doesn't matter.
tim pool
If the straight black men later comes to decide that he is a woman, now he is no longer a white person.
michael malice
I think you might be incorrect because in black communities, that stuff doesn't fly.
They're the least pro-trans, least pro-gay.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You go to Chicago and watch these Snapchats where one guy calls the other guy gay and see what happens.
They go and shoot buildings up.
It's crazy.
They don't...
It's wild that the left wants to inject that into the black community, and they're...
and they ain't having it.
phil labonte
Black people are not inherently They might be more Democrat, but they're not progressives in the college sense.
That's true.
That's true.
michael malice
Which is very much a white phenomenon.
I remember I used to watch Kathy Griffin's show when it was funny, and this is when Gay Marriage was on the – It's like,
shane cashman
that, remember that viral video that went around the beginning of them doing the vaccine mandates and they went around to like a lot of And they're like, what?
Why?
That's the science.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
Yeah, they don't know about that.
I mean, the black neighborhoods do, but the person with the microphone does not.
michael malice
And also, you remember five years ago we were told Monsanto's going to kill us all, and now you're saying Monsanto's our savior.
Stick to the script.
tim pool
Let's jump to the next story from Politico.
michael malice
I love this.
tim pool
Quote.
You essentially destroyed any chance I have.
DNC chair told David Hogg in private meeting.
And what they omit from the headline is that apparently he was on the verge of tears.
Should we play this?
michael malice
Oh, we gotta play it.
unidentified
And I'll say, look, it has plenty of warts.
And we're all trying to change those, for sure.
But the longer we continue this fight, the harder it is for us to actually do what we all want to do, which is make a difference in this country again.
I deeply respect you, David.
I too was looking forward to working with you.
michael malice
We've got to break this down.
I'm sorry.
We've got to break this down step by step.
tim pool
What's going on?
michael malice
For Ken Martin, who's the head of the Democratic Party, to I mean, it'd be one thing if we're talking about Michelle Obama, if we're talking about some of these big powerhouses who bring out the vote or raise money in Hollywood, whatever.
Steven Spielberg, I'm sure he raised a ton for these candidates.
This is David Hogg, and you're a grown man bending the knee, getting buckbroken by David Hogg?
I don't understand how anyone would talk to David.
You know what you do if this guy's messing up your job?
You sit him down and you're like, boy, I'm going to teach you how we do things here in Washington and I don't know how they do things in Florida, but you're going to learn a lesson today.
Has he not ever watched House of Cards?
shane cashman
Squeal like a pig.
phil labonte
Am I wrong though?
shane cashman
That's insane, yeah.
phil labonte
I think that people like Ken are really on the outs in the Democrat Party because of their identity.
And so, granted, he's talking to another white male, but I think that if— Well, fair enough.
But I think that if he were to be too...
michael malice
I agree with you.
that's fair, but there's a difference between intimidating and like, Let's play the tape.
tim pool
Let's roll tape.
Let's roll tape.
unidentified
Here you go.
It's created a situation, and I'll be very honest with you, for the first time in my 100 days on this job, and Jessica knows this.
The other night, I said to myself for the first time, I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
And partly not because of the stress and all the naysayers, right?
tim pool
I just want to take this opportunity to thank David Hogg for absolutely just gutting the DNC.
phil labonte
He did.
unidentified
I'm used to that.
I've spent 14 years as a chair.
used to get him beat up on.
But you know, this is really, I think,
I'm just quite frustrated to be in this position, because what you've done, whether you like it or not, or know it or not, David, is I'm trying to, no one knows who the hell I am.
michael malice
Right.
unidentified
I'm trying to get my sea legs underneath of me and actually develop any amount of credibility so I can go out there and raise the money and do the job I need to to put ourselves in a position to win.
And again, I don't think you intended this, but you essentially destroyed any chance I have to show the leadership that I need to.
tim pool
Well, there's 10 seconds left.
michael malice
Finish it, please.
unidentified
So, it's really frustrating.
tim pool
He's crying!
unidentified
That was it.
tim pool
Wait, wait, last.
Here you go, one more time.
shane cashman
Can we slow it down to half speed?
michael malice
That I need to.
unidentified
So, it's really frustrating.
tim pool
You can hear him breaking down, right?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Here you go, here you go.
That I need to.
shane cashman
Thank you.
unidentified
So, it's really frustrating.
phil labonte
Oh, man.
It's a shame.
michael malice
She's not wrong.
phil labonte
No, it's not.
michael malice
There's this great quote where you knew it was a snake when you picked it up.
David Hogg's interesting in promoting David Hogg.
For people who don't know the background to this, David Hogg said he's taking Democratic money from the Democratic Party and running leftists against careerist, centrist Democrats.
tim pool
Well, haven't you ever heard the story?
There's a frog.
He's by the edge of the water and a scorpion comes up and says, please, Mr. Frog, won't you help me cross this river?
And the frog says, no, because you'll certainly sting me and I'll die.
And the scorpion says, why would I do that?
We'll both die if that happens, so you can clearly give me a ride across the water.
So the frog agrees.
The scorpion gets on its back.
And then halfway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, and the frog says, why did you do that?
Now we're going to die.
To which the scorpion responds, LMFAO, ha ha ha ha, LOL.
michael malice
Well, it's really such is my nature.
tim pool
That's not the meme.
The meme is LMFAO.
michael malice
I told that story.
This is a fascinating addendum to that story.
I told that story to my guide in North Korea.
And she didn't know what a scorpion was.
I'm like, okay, maybe she doesn't know the word.
So I'm like, okay, it's like this lobster lives in the desert.
No clue.
I draw it.
No clue.
And then you think about how many ways you know what a scorpion is.
The Zodiac, nature shows, TV.
And you realize, wait a minute, in their country, if it doesn't exist, there's no need for them to know so they don't teach it to them.
It was really a mind-blowing moment because she knew what 9-11 was and she's like, of course I know what that is.
But a scorpion, nothing.
tim pool
There you go.
Don't you know the meme?
But now we shall both surely drown, said the frog.
LOL, said the scorpion.
LMAO.
michael malice
Wow.
tim pool
I like to think this version of it's a little bit better because it's funny, but it also adds to the depravity of the scorpion.
Like, it doesn't care that it dies so long as you are in pain and you'll be hurt.
michael malice
Getting back to Hogg, it's like you guys brought him in.
What did you think was going to happen?
Did you not think he was going to ride this DNC role to make himself something?
He's this dishonest, power-hungry freak whose only clout is just promoting himself.
He's not at all interested in building a party.
And I'm sorry, the Democrats really need someone who's going to put in the work, rebuild, if that's what they want to do to regain the president.
Not him.
Not him.
tim pool
He's 25. And remember what he said was he was going to take $20 million or whatever to start primarying Democrats.
michael malice
That's what I just said, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, they're like, why are you going to war with us as DNC chair running a super PAC that takes donations to go against the candidates we're trying to, like, come together to help?
phil labonte
I love it.
It's the best.
I love the fact that David Hogg is destroying the Democrat Party.
tim pool
There's a saying, right?
There are two wolves inside of you.
michael malice
Right, yeah.
And one's David Hogg.
tim pool
And one is David Hogg.
Which one succeeds?
The one you feed.
So they have, listen, in all seriousness though, to use that analogy, the Democrats have fostered smarmy, cult-like people with no principles who are desperate for attention and fame.
And this is what the party has turned into.
And they're like, well, I can't believe what we are becoming under people like you, David.
What do you mean?
You told people, principle doesn't matter.
Adherence to the cult is what matters.
Fame, celebrity, getting followers by pushing out lies.
The Democratic Party lies all day.
They've been lying for a decade about who Trump is and what Trump does, and they have born and bred David Hogg.
He is the perfect manifestation of the modern Democratic Party.
And I say, bravo, the slime monster from underneath the subways in New York City has finally emerged and taken over your party.
michael malice
I'm sorry, no, no, no.
Slime monsters are tough.
And scary.
tim pool
No, it's a Ghostbusters reference.
Don't you know the Ghostbusters reference?
michael malice
They're scary.
tim pool
No.
michael malice
Slimer?
tim pool
The ooze was growing under the New York subway because people were being crappy to each other.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
And it started to ooze out of the ground and the evil energy resurrected the guy in the painting.
michael malice
David Hogg has nothing in that guy.
That baron.
That's my point.
tim pool
Not the baron.
The slime.
michael malice
Neither.
I'm sorry.
Who would you rather see in an alley?
The slime or David Hogg?
It's a joke.
It's not threatening.
That's my point.
This guy, Ken, whatever, made David Hogg look alpha.
Like, that is a Christmas miracle.
He made it sound like David Hogg bent over his wife and made him watch.
phil labonte
I do, I do.
michael malice
As I told him on Twitter today.
phil labonte
I do wonder how it is that David Hogg has managed to get into the position that he's in.
tim pool
David Hogg is 100 pounds soaking wet.
michael malice
There are so many leftists.
There's like three people in my life who I met who, after I met them, I was infinitely more impressed by them.
And one of them was Joey Salads.
You've had him on the show.
And he was running for Congress, and I'm like, I'm just going to clown this guy.
tim pool
Show me salads?
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
He ran for Congress?
phil labonte
Yeah.
michael malice
He ran against – he went to primary Nicole something in Staten Island.
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
That's right.
michael malice
And he came to my show, and I was ready to clown him, and he goes, I don't know about any of this stuff.
All I know is social media, and Republicans need – someone knows that AOC for the Democrats.
I'm like, oh, OK.
This guy is completely self-aware and gets it.
I was so impressed by him.
If they had that, that would be something they want.
David Hogg is not that.
tim pool
No, he's all of the bad things of the Democratic Party incarnate.
Right.
These are the things they've championed.
phil labonte
Right.
tim pool
He's this smarmy kid who rushes to be on TV.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
Tries to play the victim so that he can get attention.
michael malice
That's nothing clever to say.
shane cashman
Just like Parkland.
tim pool
If the man either ate a cheeseburger or lifted it, he might actually have some weight on his body.
He doesn't even have the energy to do that.
shane cashman
He's a token victim because of the gun control thing.
michael malice
That's also an issue for them.
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
I mean, if there's one issue that it really is just winning endlessly, it's guns.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
I think 26 states are like permitless carry in some capacity.
michael malice
Beautiful.
There's that GIF I post all the time on Twitter where it just shows year by year how it gets better and better.
unidentified
Yep.
michael malice
It's such a white pill.
shane cashman
He'll rebrand for abortion next because he looks like a fetus.
phil labonte
I wouldn't be surprised, but a lot of there's so many of the Democrats core message or issues that just aren't popular with people.
The LGBT stuff is no longer popular with people.
Clearly the immigration position that they've taken is not popular with people.
They've left the working class entirely.
The working class has gone over.
michael malice
You know who should have David Hawk's position?
Jasmine Crockett.
She knows how to get heat.
She's aggressive.
She stands for these issues.
You can easily see her fundraising being like, look, all these Republicans are attacking me.
I'm the one taking the fight to them.
I'm not scared.
I fight dirty.
Okay, I can see someone writing her a check.
Hogg?
phil labonte
I can't imagine.
michael malice
I don't get it.
And I know I'm sure they had their meetings where they're like, we need young white men.
But just because you need young white men doesn't mean David Hogg's the one who's going to deliver them.
phil labonte
You need to listen to Carville is what you need to listen to.
He was as clear and concise about David Hogg and how bad David Hogg is for the Democrats as a man can be.
Yeah, he was really critical of David Hogg.
michael malice
He's very shrewd.
phil labonte
he is.
Whether or not you appreciate the Democrats Carville is on it when it comes to And that's what you need in a position like this.
You're totally right about Crockett, too.
She's a performer.
michael malice
She's a great performer.
phil labonte
100%.
michael malice
People, it's really funny when conservatives think Jazz of Crockett is a moron.
Did none of you grow up watching pro wrestling?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
michael malice
She's the perfect wrestling hero.
shane cashman
That's all politics, isn't it?
michael malice
Right.
She gets it.
But a lot of viewers don't.
tim pool
You know what really annoys me?
Is that we have people on the show who say, oh, that dumb ghetto.
unidentified
That's what I'm just saying.
tim pool
And I was like, I'm like, you know that's not true, right?
michael malice
That's completely an act.
tim pool
And it's frustrating because I'm like, you are giving her exactly what she asked for.
She is an educated personality who's on camera saying, you know, after the retirement of the previous congressman, they approached me and said, will you do it?
And I said, yes.
And now look, they're talking like this.
And they asked her recently, why do you talk like that?
And she was like, this is how I talk.
I don't even think I just talk like that.
It's like, no, you don't.
We all heard you when you were in college talking about wanting to go to Congress.
It's smart, though.
michael malice
It's very smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael malice
And it works.
tim pool
And they'll just say she's code-switching.
michael malice
Right.
And conservatives fall for it every time.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
They don't have a really good imagination.
michael malice
There's a lot of people on all sides of the political spectrum who think their television's a window or it's a screen, and they think they're looking at reality.
It's like, even when you're watching a movie or a reality TV, it's edited.
This is not directly a window, people.
phil labonte
Television is a stage.
michael malice
Yes.
Brilliantly put.
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
And Trump was born out of WWE.
The Trump we know.
michael malice
Oh yeah, for sure.
shane cashman
Straight up, you know, Vince McMahon kind of created that.
michael malice
Oh my, I was just thinking about my favorite Trump moments on The Apprentice.
Did you guys just watch that show?
Oh my God.
The best moment, I think it was All Stars.
So the finale was Penn Jillette versus Trace Adkins who's a country singer.
Yeah.
Penn ran the table on him.
Just, like, blew them out of the water.
Trace was, like, half asleep.
tim pool
But what's the point of the show?
Like, what were they doing?
michael malice
Whoever raises more money gets a million dollars bonus for their charity, so.
And Penn Jillette was playing for Opportunity Village.
I gave him a shout-out.
They give jobs to handicapped people so they have, like, something to do, and it gives them pride.
I think it's a great organization, is what I know about.
They made Elvis' jumpsuits.
So it's the two of them.
Penn's about to win.
And Trump goes, uh...
Hey, Penn, I just saw this interview recently where a few years ago you basically said I was a moron, blah, blah, blah.
Do you still feel that way?
And Penn's like, oh, Trump's like, great.
Trace, you're hired.
unidentified
It was the most Trump thing ever.
michael malice
It was amazing.
phil labonte
That's great.
michael malice
Just to let him know, you lost because of that.
phil labonte
Donald Trump is one of the best showmen in American history.
michael malice
The other really crazy one was when he had Khloe Kardashian on and she's up for elimination.
And he's like, Khloe, you were like a drunk driver.
He's like, I hate drunk drivers.
You're terrible.
You're fired.
And it's like, why'd you cast her to begin with?
It's like she drunk drive during the show.
It was so weird.
It was great.
tim pool
Was it when they were on stage?
michael malice
It was on stage.
tim pool
I think I have the video.
Maybe not.
michael malice
No, this is not.
This is the boardroom.
tim pool
This is the boardroom?
michael malice
I think, yeah, this looks like the boardroom.
tim pool
Well, they're on stage.
michael malice
Yeah, this is it.
This is it.
unidentified
This is it?
michael malice
Yeah.
unidentified
Sweet.
Celebrity apprentice is...
michael malice
It'll be right before this.
tim pool
I don't know how to find that.
michael malice
It was two minutes before it, yeah.
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Drag.
tim pool
Let's see what I can muster.
phil labonte
That's a shame that Penn Jillette let his mouth get in the way.
michael malice
Well, he didn't think he was going to come back.
phil labonte
I mean, well, how long ago did he?
michael malice
They did it once and they did All-Stars.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
michael malice
He brought him back for All-Stars and that was the one.
phil labonte
He said after?
michael malice
No, he said before All-Stars after his first run.
phil labonte
Oh, okay, yes.
michael malice
You know what I mean?
So it's like you can't really blame him.
And it was also really funny, the All-Stars, Bret Michaels came back.
And in the boardroom, he's the first one up for elimination.
And Trump's like, you won already.
Why are you back here?
You're fired.
It's like, but you brought him back.
What are you doing?
It was so weird.
And Brett, this is really crazy.
He had a first pick, and he picked Omarosa to be on his team.
Because, like, better the devil you know.
And it's like, she just eviscerated him.
But it's also like, why did Trump bring her in for his first term?
It was so bizarre.
phil labonte
I like Brett Michaels, too.
michael malice
Oh, I have a lot of stories about him.
YouTube searches.
I'll tell you after.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
YouTube sucks.
michael malice
He's a good guy.
Very good guy.
phil labonte
And I like to hear that.
He seems like a good guy.
michael malice
Very big heart.
Very good guy.
phil labonte
The people that I know.
tim pool
I stopped using YouTube for search for videos.
And now I just use X. Because almost always you can find the video on X somewhere.
YouTube search, when I search for any combination, it just gives me news outlets, The Hill.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Really?
tim pool
KTNV.
Or it's giving me movie clips.
It's giving me nothing related.
Interviews with Penn Jillette is nothing related to The Apprentice or Trump.
YouTube used to be a way you could find this.
michael malice
Yes, of course.
tim pool
But they're concerned about rights.
You can't search for the clips.
michael malice
Well, while people do that, head on over to NotSickOfWinning.com and buy the new book.
Let's get it done on Amazon.
But I'm not getting a ranking, and I don't understand why.
So I guess this shows the Internet's a failure, and we should all go buy books through Simon& Schuster like good people.
phil labonte
The Internet's dead, though.
michael malice
Dead Internet theory.
phil labonte
Yeah, dead Internet.
shane cashman
That is true.
phil labonte
There's only three people that have actually heard us say that because all the people that are watching that are in the chat, they're all bots.
michael malice
What was the other?
Oh, there was another...
I encourage people, if you're bored, to go back and watch it.
It's very, very Trumpy.
It's very well done.
tim pool
Oh, man.
We can...
No, we don't have time to pull up another story.
It'll go long.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
So we'll just patter for another 20 seconds before we go into— Well, I want everyone—I can ask a question for you all?
Yes.
michael malice
Do you guys agree or disagree that Trump over-delivered in his first 100 days from what you expected?
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
I disagree.
michael malice
Do you?
Let's hear it.
shane cashman
I just feel like I'm not getting the retribution I wanted.
michael malice
I'll take that answer.
tim pool
I disagree.
shane cashman
I like Trump, and I think he's hilarious, but I'm not so happy with Cash.
I'm not so happy.
tim pool
Why not?
shane cashman
I just think they're all lying and full of it right now.
And the Rogan interview, I mean, Rogan could even tell that he was lying.
tim pool
Well, let me tell you this, because I've mentioned this several times, but not to you, Michael.
You heard what Cash and Dan said about Epstein?
michael malice
The hostage video, yeah.
tim pool
And Cash said that there's no way in or out of that prison.
And so they have the video.
You know what the very simple logical response would be to Cash Patel?
michael malice
What?
tim pool
Then how did you find the body?
michael malice
Sure.
tim pool
If no one went in or out, did the body just rot until it smelled bad?
michael malice
But here's the other thing.
Even if he, in a literal sense, did – How was he allowed to do so?
Paper-thin bedsheets.
tim pool
They're supposed to tear.
michael malice
But how is he not under surveillance?
That's what makes sense.
tim pool
The point is, Cash said, there's no way in or out.
We have everything on camera.
No one went in or out.
So he killed himself.
And it's like, well, somebody went in to check on him.
And then that person went, hey, look, a dead body.
Usually when that happens, that's a suspect.
shane cashman
There's executive orders that I like, like the gain-of-function stuff, a lot of Maha stuff, but it hasn't even been codified yet.
So I'm more mad at Congress.
michael malice
I'm going to defend him on this.
People have a lot of expectations when you have a one-seat majority.
I mean, there's five of us in a room.
Imagine 435 of us trying to argue everything.
That's really hard to do.
tim pool
No, no, no.
The problem is Mike Johnson.
The problem is always the speaker.
And I can only assume, because it always happens, that...
Because it doesn't, I can't, they were censuring, what's his face, Al Green, is that the guy's name?
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
And he starts singing, and he's like, order, order, stop singing.
More Democrats come in and start singing in the well of the House, and he goes, adjourned.
You know what I would have done?
You want to know what I would have done, Michael?
michael malice
Skateboard?
tim pool
Sergeant at Arms, arrest all of the individuals in the well right now, in contempt of Congress.
Lock him up.
michael malice
I don't think he wants to cross that Rubicon.
And I don't blame him.
shane cashman
Democrats have.
michael malice
Well, you know what?
They've arrested Republicans in massive Congress.
shane cashman
They've tried assassinating Trump and lawfare for four years.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
tim pool
They arrested Trump's lawyers.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
I just don't care.
Like, we had this liberal guy on Friday.
michael malice
He has to care.
Because he has to raise money from corporations and things.
tim pool
Well, you know, there you go.
I'm sitting here.
We had this liberal guy on the show, and he said, I saw what you said to Adam Kahn over about the very fine people hoax, where Trump said, not the neo-Nazis and white nationalists.
And this guy, it's brilliant sophistry.
He says, but Trump knew who was organizing it.
So to defend it is tantamount.
So when he says they were very fine people, what, the small handful that went to the Nazis rally?
I don't buy it.
And I just, I don't care.
My response to your argument is I literally don't care.
The American people know Trump didn't say that.
I don't care to even refute what you're saying because it's sophistry.
We are at the point now where we don't need Mike Johnson or anybody else to be like, well, slow down there, Democrats.
We're adjourned.
I'm not going to go raise money.
We need someone to start.
If I was Speaker of the House and they were all singing, I'd be like, I'd start laughing.
I'd pull up my phone and film it.
I'd selfie, live stream and say, check this out.
Sergeant at Arms, make the arrest.
There we go.
That's an insurrection.
They're obstructing an official proceeding.
michael malice
I think you think the speaker has a lot more power than you.
tim pool
He can order the sergeant at arms to remove people from the world.
michael malice
Here's another one.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't care.
michael malice
Well, I think he has to care if he wants to remain in power.
Here's another example.
During 2020, Trump got a lot of heat over COVID, and we remember those days, all of us, pretty vividly.
And it's my position, and I bet everyone in this room agrees, if he had been much more resistant at the beginning, he would have been impeached and removed and put in jail.
That's how crazy people were at the beginning.
tim pool
You know, let me say this.
michael malice
And that's not to defend him bending the need of Fauci, but I'm just saying people have a lot less leeway in politics than we tend to think that they do.
tim pool
I somewhat agree, but – Sure.
So, for example, any person at any time can choose to walk backstage at a Taylor Swift concert and walk up and meet Taylor Swift if they want.
phil labonte
Try to.
tim pool
No, they can.
They really can.
And my point is people believe that there are limitations and sometimes...
Sure.
We've all seen the TV show where the guy carries a ladder and it's an all-access pass to any venue anytime he wants.
My point is, Mike Johnson is thinking, probably, there's nothing I can do about this because I am concerned about what may happen.
michael malice
Sure.
tim pool
The reality is...
And the people who sit back and say, I can't do that, are left behind.
michael malice
I agree with that broadly speaking.
I'll give you proof.
In 2003, an email went out from Ted Hope from Focus Features.
Harvey Pekar's in town with nothing to do.
If you want to hang out with him, this is your chance.
I was the only person who took him up on this, and he wrote a graphic novel about me and launched my career, right?
If you work at that company, But I don't think people – I think we all have a very Plato's Cave vision of how Washington really works.
And I don't think any of us really knows what – like you said with the lizard person.
When someone becomes speaker, I'm sure he gets sat down.
He's like, all right, there's also the deep state.
We don't know what they have on these – look at Hoover, how much he ran the government for years.
tim pool
I do think – because people are saying, that video where Dan Bongino said he killed himself?
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
Everybody pointed out the way he said it.
He killed himself.
It wasn't the bold and brave Dan Bongino looking at the camera.
michael malice
Also, Bongino didn't acknowledge, I know what I used to say, but I know how this looks.
tim pool
But he should have.
Look, look, look.
Even if, listen, if I was in my bedroom and you knocked on my door and there's a guy behind me with a gun in my back saying, tell him everything's alright, I wouldn't go, everything's alright.
I'd be like, I'm good, what do you need?
It'd be like, is something wrong?
I'm like, I'm chilling.
I'm going to bed, man.
I gotta go.
I wouldn't.
So if you went and got to the FBI and a lizard person said, now you will lie about Epstein, he would just say, guys, I really believed all this stuff.
The moment I got in, they showed me the videos.
They showed me the files.
He didn't sell it.
shane cashman
Cash's Rogan appearance made it worse.
tim pool
It did.
shane cashman
I like Cash's testimony.
unidentified
I still do like it.
shane cashman
I was like, this is great, but that was weird.
I mean, he didn't know key things.
tim pool
I'm gonna say, well, to be fair, the cameras were not down.
I don't know why people, like, people really believe that a camera was down.
And that matters.
michael malice
I thought they were both down.
tim pool
There are a bunch of cameras showing the hallways.
I've gone over the archived articles.
Not, like, from back then.
There was a camera that was down.
And so, but Cass said, I didn't hear about the camera going down.
A lot of people are saying all the cameras were down.
And then some people are saying there were none.
There was, like, one.
shane cashman
You didn't hear about the hyoid bone.
michael malice
I thought it was two.
That was my impression.
tim pool
None of this matters.
What matters is, he said, no one could have gotten in or out.
There's no other ways in.
And again, I just go, who found the body?
Like, clearly there was a person there.
So that statement of no one could have gotten in or out is like a weird nonsense statement, unrelated at all.
And there were paramedics pulling the body out.
Okay, then they're the suspects.
Come on.
If people don't believe this, so did you investigate the people who found the body?
Who called it in?
shane cashman
I think they found out he's in witness protection.
tim pool
Did the guards call it in?
michael malice
Who called it in?
shane cashman
I do.
michael malice
Here's the other thing.
I talked to us on Rogan.
We never saw Perp Walk.
Isn't that weird?
unidentified
No, right.
shane cashman
I mean, he was treated well the first time he was in prison.
tim pool
Well, they carted his body off.
michael malice
No, Perp Walk was in the beginning.
After he died.
I meant when he was arrested.
tim pool
But you know that when his body was removed, you could see his face, and people compared the body head to the head of Epstein, and they were drawing the ears.
michael malice
Same with Luigi Mangione.
They say it's not the same guy in the video.
shane cashman
I don't think it is.
It might not have been, dude.
Those two pictures are different.
tim pool
Yeah, the Luigi Mangione thing is an insane story.
People get mad at me about it, but I'll say it again.
When that story broke...
You can see thin brows.
He's wearing a black coat with a black bag.
Then they posted a picture of Luigi wearing a green jacket with a beige bag or something like that.
And everyone said, this is the suspect.
And me, because I'm cognitive of litigation, knows what you can or cannot say.
And my immediate response was, no, no, no, no, no.
they said it's a person of interest.
For all we know, this guy talked to the suspect and they're trying to be like, hey, that guy you were talking to.
Then they find him in a McDonald's with an orgy of evidence.
Somebody recognized him.
None of that adds up.
Now, I'm not saying you didn't do it.
shane cashman
Did you see that picture?
michael malice
No.
shane cashman
He had like the same outfit.
That Lee Harvey had on?
michael malice
Did he really?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
With the red sweater.
Remember that?
michael malice
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That I remember.
That was Lee Harvey.
shane cashman
Very similar.
tim pool
To be fair, I got no idea.
I mean, maybe it's just two different cameras and they make people look different and artifacting makes the eyebrows look different.
No, I have no idea.
I'm just saying, when that story first broke, the narrative online was these are two different people.
shane cashman
I think Epstein's alive for sure.
I think he wasn't afraid of going to prison because he knew he was going to get out.
Just how he was treated so well in the Florida prison.
When he was there.
He was able to leave.
tim pool
We're going to go to chats!
And I was like, we went over a little bit.
Smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, even your aunt.
michael malice
Especially your aunt.
tim pool
When was the last time you talked to your aunt?
You call her up and you just go to family gatherings when you were a kid and now she's a couple states over and you haven't said anything.
You sent her a text message.
How's it been?
You watching TimCast IRL?
michael malice
You go to NotSickOfWinning.com and there's still no ranking, so I guess that was a bust.
But thank you for the support.
tim pool
Maybe tomorrow it'll pop up and say number one.
michael malice
Maybe.
tim pool
And don't forget, All right.
Shane H. Wilder says, "How was everyone's weekend?
Anything crazy happen?" Oh yeah!
I went to UFC.
michael malice
I saw the pictures.
Austin was beaming.
tim pool
What pictures of us?
michael malice
You put pictures.
unidentified
You posted it.
tim pool
Oh, the picture of me with Allison.
unidentified
Yes.
michael malice
Calm down.
tim pool
No, you just freaked me out.
People were taking pictures of me.
shane cashman
You're from a different timeline.
He didn't post that at all.
tim pool
Well, it's because I posted a picture of me and Allison.
michael malice
Okay, I said she was beaming.
Okay.
tim pool
Oh, I know.
michael malice
I was happy to see her happy.
tim pool
When you said there were pictures of me, I was like, did people take pictures of me?
michael malice
I'm sure they did, but I meant that.
Holy crap.
tim pool
And we hung out with Angry Cops.
Richard is great.
He's hilarious.
Shout out to Angry Cops on YouTube.
And Brandon Herrera, of course.
And Evan from Black Rifle.
And so I went there to watch.
Wait a minute.
michael malice
Evan from Black Rifle?
I got a bone to pick with him.
Because I was hanging out with him in the green room and we had a great talk and he's like, I'm a big fan of the show.
And I invited him on.
He left Black Rock, right?
The former.
phil labonte
No, he's still there.
michael malice
I thought he was still there.
But anyway, I invited him on and he didn't reply.
phil labonte
Son of a bitch.
michael malice
I'm going to find out who this was.
tim pool
It was really, really fun.
And Mike Tyson was there.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so it was really cool.
Nothing, there's nothing like UFC in person.
It is, you know, look, I say it's incredible.
We're planning on going to a baseball game at some point with bringing the crew down and just chilling for the day with catering to watch a baseball game, but the baseball game is just in the background as we're hanging out.
UFC, man.
Yo, that, I forgot the name of the fighter.
There was, like, a 28-second knockout.
Did you guys watch?
phil labonte
I didn't watch none.
tim pool
It was...
The J. Korean guy.
He pulls back and then left jab to the face and the guy went down.
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
It is amazing to watch that.
And the final fight with Mary, I'm pronouncing his name wrong, and O'Malley, all the fights were so good.
They were so good.
phil labonte
Did O'Malley win?
tim pool
No, no.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, he got put into, like, a chokehold at Lock or whatever it's called.
phil labonte
Sugar Sean.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
Yeah.
Amazing.
Amazing.
There was one where the guys were going real slow and everyone was booing, but we went to the lounge for that and just hung out and they had all the great food, man.
It's really amazing.
Shout out to Dana White for having me.
I don't think he cared all that much that I was there, but he did have me there, and it was amazing to get to go.
michael malice
I did a UFC book.
I was backstage for one of the shows, and it was when Tim Sylvie, this is years ago, lost to Randy Couture, and it was very surreal because you see someone leave the locker room, you see some stuff on the screen, and then he comes back and half his face sells a moment, and he's walked hunched over.
It was just like some kind of weird montage from an 80s movie where he just changed clothes.
It was nuts.
It's intense.
tim pool
Alright, so Shane's gearing up for Inverted World.
Inverted World Live, 10pm.
He's got a big secret to reveal.
michael malice
Oh yeah, he's got a secret!
tim pool
The government's been lying to us.
shane cashman
I'll have you on to describe it.
phil labonte
Big one.
shane cashman
You gotta come on and talk Soviet UFO sometime.
michael malice
Sure, I'll be happy to.
shane cashman
Thank you all.
That'd be fun.
You can find us at Inverted World Live on Rumble and YouTube, 10 o 'clock, Monday through Thursday.
I see you all there.
tim pool
Open calls.
shane cashman
Open calls, yeah.
If you've got stories...
tim pool
Do you want to talk about Aliens or Sasquatch?
Or maybe Sasquatch Aliens?
michael malice
What was that show that went from, like, was it something called Coast to Coast?
phil labonte
Coast to Coast AM.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
Great show.
They banned me, though, for political reasons.
tim pool
They really?
shane cashman
I was supposed to do that show like a year or two ago.
Is that true?
michael malice
Wait, they're still on?
shane cashman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
It's that guy, right?
shane cashman
No, it's the new guy.
michael malice
Okay, yeah.
You're thinking the same thing.
shane cashman
They're like, no thanks.
phil labonte
Art Bell passed away like 10 years ago.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Let's go.
michael malice
Or did he?
shane cashman
See y 'all.
tim pool
All right, man.
unidentified
Let's grab some more Yo Chats.
tim pool
We got Alpha2Omega says, howdy people.
Illegal alien crisis has been a part of the economy for so long that there will be a housing and labor crisis due to deportations.
Stop kicking the can down the road and fix it.
Pay the cost.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
It means that...
I'm at my limit, bro.
Did I tell you about DoorDash already?
michael malice
Yes, Tim.
I'm sure you told the audience about it three times.
tim pool
No, I didn't.
I've never mentioned it before.
michael malice
I did it for the second time in my life over the weekend and I was giddy.
tim pool
We use DoorDash and now I'm going to ID every driver because- He's got Karen.
We get people who send us food.
michael malice
Let me tell you, brother.
tim pool
Let me tell you about what happens when someone sends food here.
You know, what do you think we do with it?
michael malice
Throw it in the garbage.
tim pool
Indeed we do.
michael malice
Of course.
tim pool
Food that arrives from sources we can't verify is garbage.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
Trashed right away.
So what happens when I order food from DoorDash...
And it says Miguel is coming.
It says Miguel is coming.
michael malice
I'm right here.
tim pool
And then a blonde woman gets out of a car and says, Miguel's not here.
I'm supposed to go, okay, random lady.
I'll eat that random food you're giving me.
I get pissed off.
For the most part, I just said, okay, whatever.
I don't know.
It turns out what they do is they're DoorDash scams.
One person will sign up, create an account, and then basically hire a smog of people who are ineligible either because they're illegal immigrants or they're denied or rejected for some reason and then skim off the top.
And I'm just – I'm sick and tired of having random people show up.
We have security already.
We have security issues.
It's frustrating.
unidentified
Do you know what else?
tim pool
I don't want to deal with it.
michael malice
If you're skimming off the – how much do money these DoorDash people – they're not breaking – A lot.
unidentified
What?
michael malice
It's like – it's the benefits very – oh, because they're doing a bunch at once?
tim pool
They're running a company basically with tons of people.
michael malice
No, but I mean, you're skimming off from people who are barely making anything.
tim pool
So you sit at home and you send a text message and you get five bucks?
michael malice
Yeah, you're right.
unidentified
You're right.
tim pool
So they might say you keep the tips and we'll keep everything else.
michael malice
I don't know.
tim pool
All I know is finally, like we did a delivery today and there's some woman and I'm like, no, no, no.
We're waiting for a dude who I'm texting with right now.
No, I wasn't.
I don't know who that is and I don't want to eat food from a person.
I already don't know who the DoorDash drivers are, but at least I know.
If it's a verified individual, I can message a company and say, this is the guy who delivered it.
What if I get sick or my family gets sick or the employees get sick and they say, Rick was your delivery driver?
And I say, no, it was a woman with blonde hair.
They say, that's not us.
We don't know who that is.
michael malice
This is what you do.
You bring back Ian and make him the food tester.
tim pool
Well, it's actually real simple.
We're just going to have security check IDs.
michael malice
Okay, sure.
tim pool
And if a DoorDash driver pulls up and their ID, their name does not match the account, we're going to reject it and we're going to...
Tell DoorDash, pay for it.
And that's annoying, but it's more annoying when we, like, it's a problem for us when a vehicle pulls in and we don't know.
michael malice
Sure, of course, yes.
tim pool
Like security camera goes off, security people are like, That cash got swatted?
michael malice
Yeah.
Has that stopped?
I thought a lot of right-of-center influencers were getting swatted, like, one after another.
Did that stop?
tim pool
The big wave did.
I think they said they arrested somebody who was doing it in a foreign country or something.
That's why it's still happening.
michael malice
I also think it's crazy how easy it is to swat someone.
tim pool
I think this.
This is a bit Karen-y, perhaps, but I'm sick of the illegal immigrants doing the DoorDash scam.
And it's not just that.
When I get an Uber, check the license plate.
And get the name of the driver because you don't want to get in a car with a stranger for obvious reasons.
michael malice
But it's in your phone already.
It shows you the name of the license plate.
tim pool
That's my point.
You call an Uber and then the car pulls up and you say, we're looking for 5931.
And then there's a picture of the guy.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
And you look at him and say, that's the right guy.
michael malice
I've never had a different – you've had a different person?
Okay.
tim pool
I'm saying that's good.
michael malice
Oh, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
It's a problem that DoorDash doesn't have photos.
michael malice
I see what you're saying.
tim pool
I'm sick of the illegal immigrants.
This is a major scam.
A person will sign up and then have illegal immigrants do the deliveries.
They'll create accounts and then give the account and the passwords to illegal immigrants so they can work.
in this country and make money, and then they take a percentage and give them the cash.
I'm done with it.
I'm sick of it.
Like, I don't know who the person is in the first place.
They show up.
The problem is it's a security issue.
When I say, we're getting a delivery, it says Rick.
And then a woman pulls in and she goes, I'm here with DoorDash.
And they go, who are you?
Nobody ordered this.
We're waiting for Rick.
michael malice
I always have contactless delivery.
Put it at my door.
I don't want to see anyone or talk to anyone.
tim pool
The problem we have is that we have gates and armed guards.
michael malice
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It's a different situation for you.
I told DoorDash at this point.
We are going to ID check anybody delivering for you guys.
And I said to the customer service, I was like, I'm just informing you this means 100% of our deliveries will be rejected and you're going to pay.
And they were like, that's fine, sir.
ID checks are normal.
I said, okay.
michael malice
They're comfortable with ID checks?
tim pool
Yes.
michael malice
Oh, that's interesting.
tim pool
I mean, what happens when you work in an office in New York?
michael malice
Well, sure.
I understand.
tim pool
Someone at Fox News orders.
You've got to give your ID to them.
michael malice
A lot of times these companies, when they know what's going on, will look the other way.
So the fact that they were publicly like, no, no, that's fine.
tim pool
That's why apparently the illegal immigrant scams are massive in rural areas where you're less likely to encounter a business.
michael malice
What about Uber Eats, though?
Have you tried that?
tim pool
No.
I would say, unfortunately, for these illegal immigrant scammers, we are a business in a rural area.
And we have a security gate and security guards.
So I said from now on, all deliveries have to be ID checked.
Which basically means we can never do these deliveries anymore.
So the real solution, something with Allison, is we're going to have to just have a staff member go and do all deliveries and pickups for us.
michael malice
Or you could just get a guy to be a cook here.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a lot more expensive.
But we have entertained the idea.
It's just that's a budget level we're not at to have a person cooking.
But Fridays we order food.
michael malice
Here's what you do.
Easy.
Find a five-year-old minority.
Call them a racial slur.
You raise half a million.
That pays for your chef.
phil labonte
There you go.
unidentified
Perfect.
michael malice
I think I'm going to do that.
All right, kids.
You're on warning.
tim pool
I don't care what race they are.
michael malice
I'm going to call them the N-word.
tim pool
Well, grab some more chats, but I'll just say one more thing.
Guys, when you experience this with DoorDash or any other service, these are illegal immigrants illegally working here and scamming you and everybody else through that service.
And I think DoorDash doesn't include the profile information and lets it happen.
michael malice
I feel some sympathy for these people, I got to tell you.
tim pool
That they came here illegally and now they're trying to skirt the system so they can...
michael malice
Like if they have a crappy job and they're actually bringing me my food, these are not my primary targets.
tim pool
Have you ever checked the markup for DoorDash?
michael malice
I have.
tim pool
It's like 30%.
It's nuts.
michael malice
It's 30% on Taco Bell.
tim pool
It's crazy for me.
phil labonte
It's 30% on Taco Bell?
michael malice
On Taco Bell.
tim pool
Like I said.
michael malice
I can afford the 30%.
tim pool
I ordered on DoorDash a local restaurant for delivery, and then it gave me an error saying they were no longer open.
So I called them directly and said, we're open.
I said, well, DoorDash won't let me do the delivery.
And they said, we'll just take your delivery here.
It was $100 cheaper.
michael malice
What were you ordering?
tim pool
I'm ordering food for the office.
So it's going to be four burgers, four chicken sandwiches, seriously, it's going to be eight sandwiches and five appetizers.
michael malice
Okay, I got you.
tim pool
And it was $100 cheaper.
And it's crazy.
So when you look at that, And then you look at how they're running these scams.
I'm just like, dude, I don't know if they're the only company that's doing it, but I'm sick of it, man.
michael malice
So why are you so against Uber Eats?
tim pool
I never used it.
michael malice
I mean, it could be they have the solution to your problem.
tim pool
Maybe.
So we'll check.
I'm just saying from now on.
Uber, I think they have your ID.
michael malice
Uber, I think, will show your face and everything.
They run a check.
tim pool
I just think everybody else should be cognizant of that.
All right, let's go.
Let's see.
Kyle says, thank you, Michael Malice.
I want to give you credit for successfully bringing back Retard.
I watch that Rogan clip often.
michael malice
Okay, so I do want to talk about this a bit.
Because there was an article, I think it was CNN or somewhere, where they talk about the word being brought back.
phil labonte
Who brought it back?
michael malice
That was me.
I'm not kidding.
I was on Rogan.
I called Officer Harris that.
It was super viral.
And I was shocked that only one...
And all of them almost saw one comment that had an issue with the word.
The lefties said she was attorney general and senator and vice president.
This woman's not stupid.
Like, what's wrong with you?
But they weren't like, you should use that word.
So I was very glad to be able to bring that word back.
And I'm going to bring back the F slur for gay people next year.
And I think I told you about how I'm going to do it, right?
tim pool
No.
michael malice
Oh, I didn't tell you?
tim pool
Let's save it for the uncensored portion of the show.
michael malice
I'll say it uncensored.
It'll be fine.
I promise.
I'm going to be on like Bill Maher something with like Maureen Dowd or some middle-aged white woman.
And I'll take out my wallet.
I'll bring this into existence and I'll say, all right, I have whatever.
I'll count out the money.
40 bucks.
I'll have 200 just in case.
I'll be like, I will give $200 to St. Jude's Hospital for Sick Kids if you could go 10 minutes without being a complete slur.
And no matter what she does, I'll be like, sorry, kids.
And I'll donate the money anyway, because I don't want to be mean.
But that's how the word we brought back.
tim pool
Watch.
Let's grab some more chats.
phil labonte
Ten minutes.
tim pool
All right, all right.
michael malice
No matter what she does, I'll say, right?
She can't win.
phil labonte
Appreciate you, Michael.
tim pool
It's a good word.
All right.
Cain Abel says, if you want a solution that does not require prison for seditionists and insurrectionists, how about losing their citizenship and exile from the U.S.?
michael malice
As an anarchist, I'm a much bigger fan of exile for many crimes than prison, because prison makes things worse.
It's very hard to go from prison back to normal life.
tim pool
And I gotta pay for it?
michael malice
We gotta pay for it.
It's not cheap.
So a lot of these conservatives who are like locking up the key, I'm like, it'd be cheaper to put them through college than what you're paying for, and it helps no one.
tim pool
The island.
michael malice
Right, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we get an island, we put them on a boat.
phil labonte
Which island?
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
We put them on the island.
michael malice
One of the crappy ones.
phil labonte
Yeah.
michael malice
What?
phil labonte
Iceland?
michael malice
No, no.
Iceland's nice.
Have you ever been to Iceland?
phil labonte
No.
michael malice
With your style of music?
I thought Iceland's really big with that kind of music.
phil labonte
No, there's not.
No, wait.
I'm probably thinking of Greenland.
But no, I have not been to Iceland.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
I think Little St. James is available for use right now.
unidentified
Whoop.
phil labonte
It's Little.
I don't get it.
tim pool
That's Epstein's Island.
My point is, I would argue that the island is better than the death penalty.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
If you went to a guy who was convicted of a capital crime—but see, the thing is, talking about Carl Benjamin, for instance, his moral worldview is that the punishment must be made.
It's not about retribution.
It's not about— I agree.
It's about making someone feel pain for the crime they committed.
michael malice
I agree, but I think I very much do not trust the government to do that correctly.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
I agree.
This is why I'm against the death penalty because Kamala Harris is going to come to you at one point and say, that guy over there should die.
michael malice
I think a better way for us to say it is I'm against the government being trusted to do the death penalty right.
tim pool
Agreed.
michael malice
We're not against someone getting done for doing something awful.
tim pool
As a penalty for law, the problem is arson of governance creates problems.
So I say the island.
You send them to an island, it's a win-win.
We don't got to pay their bills.
We don't got to think about them at all.
But, you know, people don't like it.
They say, Tim, the island's a bad idea.
phil labonte
I don't know.
I disagree.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
Daniel Lee says, revised the Marines hymn.
From the halls of Pasadena to the shores of Sunset Beach, we fight our country's battles in L.A. on land and sea.
First to fight for right and freedom and to keep our cities clean, we are proud to claim the title of United States Marine.
michael malice
I am also – now that we're saying this, I'm a little worried about when you have a President Biden and what if you have lockdowns or something and then they start sending Marines against people we like.
tim pool
My response to you, Michael, is that we've already lived through that and the issue now is the escalation will be substantially worse.
michael malice
Sure, sure.
So the real question is do we intend to win the political – I agree, but I think people need to keep in mind that when people say Biden's the worst president ever, the country can't get more totalitarian, it's just like, look at England right now.
We have a long ways to go, and it can get much, much worse, so be thankful you're an American even at this point.
tim pool
When the Biden admin was traveling across the country and rounding up people who were at J6, and I mean not the writers, I mean the people who are walking around, or Owen Schroyer who was convicted literally for words that he said, his sentencing was expanded because of it.
We've been through that, and the real point you're making is not that watch out if Democrats do it.
You should just say, if we lose this, it'll get worse than you realize.
michael malice
Oh, yeah, that's a fair—yeah.
phil labonte
Yes.
michael malice
And you don't have to guess.
Look at England right now.
phil labonte
I mean, the rest of the country can just look at California right now and think about how bad the United States will get.
michael malice
You can leave California very easily.
phil labonte
Yeah, fair enough.
Let's go!
michael malice
And I'd still rather live in California right now than the UK.
phil labonte
But yeah, it's sunny.
unidentified
But other things too, yeah.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
J7 says, can the U.S. seize Soros' assets?
michael malice
No.
tim pool
Yes, they could.
unidentified
They're not all in the U.S. Yes, so.
michael malice
But what are you talking about?
What do you mean?
How are we going to seize assets there in Italy?
tim pool
So as a function of law, the answer is no.
As a function of U.S. military power, they can do a lot of things.
michael malice
If I've got money in Switzerland, how are you going to get it?
Are you going to invade Switzerland?
tim pool
No.
michael malice
Get all those army knives.
tim pool
But I – well, the bigger question then is – I'm going to have the magnified glass.
The question is leverage, but it's – when it comes to Switzerland.
It's a question of what power do they actually exert over WEF, interest, the IMF, the World Bank, the SWIFT payment system.
Because then it's going to be difficult for a U.S. president, for sure.
michael malice
It's also a very, very slippery slope if you're going to be seizing states.
Right.
tim pool
For political reasons, too.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
So it's rough.
I think the bigger issue is to just investigate seditious conspiracy.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
Where applicable.
Where money from Soros has been used to fund violent— That's the crazy part.
Violence, yeah.
And it has been.
So here's the problem with conservatives.
They say things like, the left is getting paid to protest.
No, they're not.
Nonprofits receive grants from Soros' foundations.
michael malice
Sure.
tim pool
They use it to hire full-time organizers.
The organizers rally and propagandize and bring out real people.
michael malice
Sure.
tim pool
What the government can do, what Trump can do, is make the argument that these— This money is intended.
It's like a RICO.
It's like, we know what you're planning to do.
They can track and say, 73 out of the last 100 events organized by foundations funded through these foundations have been violent riots.
Now, they're not advertising as such, but you make the argument.
This is the intention.
They're just trying to gain plausible deniability when they say, we don't do these things.
And they'll make it a First Amendment issue, but that's what you do.
But the bigger question is...
As Democrats openly defied the courts and did whatever they wanted and arrested lawyers, are Republicans just going to say, oh, no, I guess the court said I can't do it?
michael malice
Well, I think you – Let's talk about this in the uncensored portion of the show as we're going to right now.
tim pool
So smash that like button.
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Say, hey, son, haven't talked to you in a little bit.
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Michael agrees.
michael malice
I do.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Yes.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCastRumble.com slash TimCastIRL is going to be that uncensored call-in show.
Michael, do you want to shout anything out?
michael malice
You guys can follow me on Michael Miles on Twitter.
I hope you all bought and enjoyed the book.
I guess our experiment didn't work, but no harm, no foul.
It was still fun.
tim pool
Well, hold on, hold on.
unidentified
Everybody go to Buy the book.
michael malice
Buy the book.
tim pool
Because it may be that we wake up in the morning and you're number one if everybody buys it.
michael malice
That's true.
unidentified
It's not gonna take that much.
michael malice
Because there's going to be a lot of people telling you to give up.
It's over.
We lost Elon.
Blah, blah, blah.
Don't let them get to you.
phil labonte
It's a book of white pills.
michael malice
It's a book of white pills.
Yeah, it's a lot of funny stuff in there.
When I was going back, I'm like, I forgot about this.
There's a lot of funny stuff in there.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
New record dropped in January.
It's called Anti-Fragile.
You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all over at rumble.com slash timcastirl for The Uncensored Show.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
What do I do with that?
Click that?
Boom.
What is up, everybody?
Welcome to the uncensored portion of the show.
If you're just tuning in, you may notice a live chat window on the show.
That is our member Discord.
So if you want to be in that Discord and hang out, timcast.com.
Click join us, get involved.
Tens of thousands of members.
Anything you need done, they're going to be there to help you, and community is everything.
So we're trying to rebuild that.
This is our first digital attempt, but Not only does your chat appear on the screen and you can say naughty things, we're also going to be bringing callers into the show.
But as we do that, I do want to say, Mr. Michael Malice, you were just mentioning how the conservatives or Republicans fetishize the legal system.
And so we deal with, I think that's changing.
We have Democrats who have, like, I'll sit down with one of these liberals and I'll say, they arrested Trump's lawyers.
And they go, so what?
They were criminals.
And I'm like, Okay, that violates the Constitution to arrest someone's lawyer like did the lawyer commit a crime?
And I'm like, well, you can accuse anybody.
They don't give a fuck.
Republicans sit on their hands and they go, well, we can't do that.
I think Trump's changing this.
michael malice
Yes, he is.
tim pool
Sending in the National Guard and the Marines is a huge step up of a fuck you, I don't give a shit.
And the Democrats are whinging and whining.
I want to see more of this.
michael malice
Oh, I mean, you're singing my song.
tim pool
Singing your song.
michael malice
I've been talking about this for years, how if I don't have – here's a very easy – I talk about this in the book, which if I'm one of these 50 intelligence agents who said that Hunter Biden's laptop has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation and I'm a journalist and you burned me, if I cared about truth and my reputation, I wouldn't be calling you again.
I'd be like, you know what?
I trusted you.
I trusted your expertise.
You made me look like dishonest.
Asshole.
I flipped the election, possibly, or at least moved it somewhat.
I want people to trust my word, but that didn't happen.
But then he revoked the security clearances.
This is one of the first times where someone did something shitty in Washington and they had a price to pay.
That's how it has to work, because why wouldn't I lie again?
I got away with it.
phil labonte
There should be, like everybody should be paying the price for the BS they've done.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
There shouldn't be, and there shouldn't be timidity on the part of it.
michael malice
This is what pride really means.
Let's have Pride Month be retribution.
phil labonte
Yeah, throw people in jail for breaking the law.
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